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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- November 19, 2022
Biden Goes Banana Republic, Weaponizes The DOJ To Force Indictments On His Opponent Donald J. Trump
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This is an iHeart Podcast.
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Welcome.
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It is Verdict with Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
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And this is a bonus episode of Verdict.
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Senator, I appreciate you taking the time.
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You just landed.
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And this obviously is news that is rocking the country.
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The Attorney General, Merrick Garland,
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someone that you called for there should be investigated
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and should be impeached for the job
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that he has done in your new book.
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He has now come out, made an announcement,
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making it clear that he is going to war with Donald Trump
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and trying to make it where he wouldn't even be able
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to be the president ever again.
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He said this earlier.
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Based on recent developments,
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including the former president's announcement
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that he is a candidate for president in the next election
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and the sitting president's stated intention
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to be a candidate as well,
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I have concluded that it is in the public interest
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to appoint a special counsel.
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Such an appointment underscores the department's commitment
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to both independence and accountability
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in particularly sensitive matters.
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It also allows prosecutors and agents
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to continue their work expeditiously
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and to make decisions indisputably guided
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only by the facts and the law.
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The special counsel will conduct parts of the first investigation
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I just mentioned.
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The investigation into whether any person or entity
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unlawfully interfered with the transfer of power
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following the 2020 presidential election
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or with the certification of the Electoral College vote
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held on or about January 6th.
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Senator, you tweeted about this earlier
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and it's just two days after the president announced
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that he's going to run for a third time
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and this is how they respond to that decision.
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Your thoughts?
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Well, we predicted on verdict weeks ago
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that the Department of Justice
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was going to indict Donald Trump.
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That Joe Biden wants them to indict Donald Trump.
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That Merrick Garland wants to indict Donald Trump.
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This is part and parcel
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with the whole-scale politicization
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of the Department of Justice
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and the FBI and law enforcement
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under first Barack Obama
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and now even more blatantly under Joe Biden.
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And appointing a special counsel
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is window dressing.
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It is designed for Merrick Garland to say,
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oh, who me?
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Gosh, no, I have nothing to say about it.
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It's the special counsel that's doing the indictment.
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And you remember when we said this
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was when DOJ leaked the news
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that they intended to indict Hunter Biden.
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That was, and we've talked at some length about it,
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I believe they're deliberately focusing
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on the personal aspects of Hunter Biden,
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his substance abuse and tax issues,
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rather than the official corruption
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that directly implicates Joe Biden.
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But the other reason they leaked
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their intentions about Hunter Biden
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was to set the stage for this,
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for them going after Donald J. Trump directly
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and to say, gosh, look how even-handed we are.
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We're indicting a Biden, we're indicting a Trump.
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We're just right in the middle of the road.
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This is politics.
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It is an abuse of power, and it is wrong.
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Senator, this is, and I think one of the points here
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that should be brought up,
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is this is exactly what you talked about
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and went into such great detail in your book.
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And this is the reason why I would tell you
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if you haven't bought your book yet, do it.
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I've read the book, and it's like, oh, wow.
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This is how rogue this administration has gone.
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Not only have they tried to overthrow
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the will of the people in the 2016 elections,
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they tried to undermine the president
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the entire time he's here.
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They knew that they were hiding information
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that would vindicate Donald Trump
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from any connection to Russia.
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They knew that the dossier was paid for
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by the Democrat National Committee,
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and they knew that it was paid for
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by Hillary Clinton's campaign.
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And they knew that that information,
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which they had categorized as clearly being,
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as they described it, user-created,
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meaning the people that brought it to them
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created it out of thin air.
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They waited and sat and watched
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as the president of the United States of America
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was in an impeachment trial over information.
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They could have walked out and said,
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none of this is real.
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And now they're saying, basically,
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we didn't get you last time.
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It's almost like double jeopardy from the DOJ.
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Well, look, that's exactly right.
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This is precisely what my brand new book talks about.
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The book is Justice Corrupted,
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How the Left Has Weaponized the Legal System.
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And it walks the reader through
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how Barack Obama turned the Department of Justice
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of the IRS and the FBI
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into his political enforcement squad.
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It then walks the reader through
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how those hard partisans
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burrowed into senior career positions
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and waged war on the president
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of the United States, Donald Trump,
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in a way that has never happened
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in our nation's history.
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And then it walks the reader through
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how under Joe Biden,
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it is fully metastasized,
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where Merrick Garland
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is the most political attorney general
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our country has ever seen,
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whether it is the FBI raiding Mar-a-Lago,
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the home of a former president,
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never happened before in our nation's history,
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whether it is the FBI targeting parents
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who speak up at school boards
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and treating them as domestic terrorists,
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whether it is the FBI raiding the homes
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of pro-life activists with machine guns drawn.
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All of this is an extension of the view
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that the FBI and the Department of Justice
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are now partisan weapons
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to be deployed by the Democrats,
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and their intention is to indict Donald Trump
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because they hate him.
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This is Trump derangement syndrome,
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but this time with a gun and a badge.
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Let me ask this.
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What does the definition of success look like
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for Democrats and the DOJ?
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I'm not even sure it's get anything
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where he's guilty.
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Is it just getting an indictment of Donald Trump?
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Explain the politics of this.
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We have two years until the presidential elections.
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What do they need to do and accomplish
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at the minimum to basically derail
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a candidate's ability
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to run a successful campaign for the presidency?
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And you notice I asked you that question
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without Donald Trump's name involved,
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because if they can do it to Donald Trump,
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they could do it to basically anybody
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that's on the Republican side
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that decides to run
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if this is a game plan
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of how to make it where
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you're the candidate we don't like
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and we're going to come after you
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and then we'll make you basically ineligible.
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Well, and in the book Justice Corrupted,
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I walk through how they did this
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to Ted Stevens,
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who was then the longest serving senator,
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Republican senator from Alaska,
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and they indicted him right before the election,
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and it ended up causing him to be defeated.
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It cost him his seat,
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and afterwards,
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I walk through all of the prosecutorial misconduct.
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It's one of the greatest abuses of power,
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and that was carried out for political purposes.
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They want to do the same playbook here.
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And to indict someone,
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what it means legally to indict someone
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is to bring formal charges.
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And so a grand jury votes out an indictment.
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Now, the grand jury doesn't get to hear
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from the defendant.
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The grand jury doesn't get to hear
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the other side of the argument.
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It's the prosecutor bringing witnesses
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and putting evidence before the grand jury.
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There's an old line
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that a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich,
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and there's a lot of truth to that.
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There's enormous power
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that a prosecutor has,
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and it's why it is so dangerous
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when it is weaponized like this,
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when it is used as a tool
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of political retribution.
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And I believe their intention
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is to get an indictment,
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I think likely in the District of Columbia,
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because they know the jury pool
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is so skewed Democrat
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that they don't believe
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Trump can get a fair shake there,
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which is what they want.
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And then I think they want to try
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to prosecute him.
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They want to try to convict Trump.
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These guys are zealots,
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and they have behaved as zealots
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from the very first day
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they took the oath of office.
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Do they fast-track this then?
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I mean, is that the goal here,
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that the holy grail for them
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is you fast-track an indictment,
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you then get him
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where you can put this up
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basically on trial.
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If you can find him guilty
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of any of these charges
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in the District of Columbia,
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is he then ineligible
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to be president
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of the United States of America
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at that point?
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No, I don't think
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that's going to happen.
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They may have dreams
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of legally barring him
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from running,
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but that ain't going to happen.
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I think the chances of that
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are minuscule.
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But what their plan is,
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listen, we've seen them
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run this playbook before.
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They did it when Trump
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was president with not one,
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but two impeachment trials
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that were designed
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just to drag Trump
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through the mud,
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to beat up on him
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day after day after day.
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And they did that
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in because they were
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waging a political campaign.
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We've seen it
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the last two years
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with the January 6th
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kangaroo committee
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in the House.
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That was a partisan presentation.
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It's not a congressional committee.
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A congressional committee
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has both sides represented.
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In this instance,
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Nancy Pelosi refused
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to let the Republicans
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appoint their members.
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She wanted to not have
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anyone who would be
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supportive of Trump
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on the committee.
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And so she put together
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what was essentially
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a giant campaign commercial.
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Now, the January 6th committee
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is going away
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because Republicans
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have retaken the House.
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So apparently,
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Merrick Garland
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and the Department of Justice
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are stepping forward
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saying, okay, we got this.
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It's our turn now
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to, after the indictment,
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to have a daily drip
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of leaks,
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which DOJ isn't
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supposed to be leaking.
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And an effort,
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you know,
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they,
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the White House,
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the Department of Justice,
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the partisans
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at the FBI,
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they hate Donald Trump.
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And they just,
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they see red
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when they see him.
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And the length
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they're willing to go
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is wrong.
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And I got to tell you, Ben,
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I hear from FBI agents
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all the time
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who are horrified
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at what is happening
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to the FBI.
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I hear from prosecutors
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at DOJ
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repeatedly
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who are horrified
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at what is happening
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to DOJ.
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This is not
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the line prosecutors.
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This is not
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the line FBI agents.
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This is the political brass
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and the senior career officials
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where they've allowed
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partisans
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to burrow in
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and use it
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as a political weapon.
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And,
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and mark my words,
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the reason
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a special prosecutor
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was appointed
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was they intend
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to indict
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Donald Trump.
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That's the takeaway
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from the news
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that came out yesterday.
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Two last,
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two questions
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for you left
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as we do this special
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bonus pod
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because of the news
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of today.
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Senator,
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let's go back
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to 2016.
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Merrick Garland
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was nominated
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to the Supreme Court
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by then President
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Barack Obama
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in March of 2016.
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The Senate never voted
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on his nomination.
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How much of this
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could be the motivation
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of just pure revenge
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for Garland
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because he,
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he,
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he is angry
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and upset
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that he's not
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on the Supreme Court
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of the United States
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of America.
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Do you think
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that's playing
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into some of this
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where it's just
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straight up revenge
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for Donald Trump
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winning that election
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and,
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and Republicans,
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this is payback
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for not giving him
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a vote that he wanted?
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Look,
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it's hard to imagine
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that that's not
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a significant factor.
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Many of the Senate Democrats
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still see
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at the fact
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that the Senate
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Republican majority
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followed the voters' wishes
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and said,
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we've been given
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a majority
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and when there's
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a vacancy
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that occurs
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in a presidential
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election year,
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a Senate of an opposing
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party
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doesn't fill
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that vacancy
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and that goes back
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many,
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many decades.
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The voters gave
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Republicans a majority
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in 2014
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in the Senate
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and one of the big things
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that we campaigned on
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was stopping
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radical left-wing judges
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but Merrick Garland,
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Democrat senators,
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the White House,
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they all resent
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that furiously
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and,
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you know,
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look,
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it's worth pointing out.
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So sometimes
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with a special counsel,
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you see someone
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that they're trying
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to get
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some credibility for
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so you sometimes
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see a special counsel
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that is of the opposing
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political party
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to say,
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well,
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gosh,
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you know,
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this is a prominent
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Republican we're going
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to use.
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What is interesting
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about this fellow,
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the fellow that Merrick
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Garland named
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is a guy named
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Jack Smith.
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I don't know him.
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I'm not familiar
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with him.
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So we just have
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the news
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that is percolating
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out in the opening
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hours,
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but he's someone
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who was a career
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prosecutor
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for a long time.
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He was the prosecutor
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at The Hague
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prosecuting war crimes.
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But I can tell you this,
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the folks at DOJ,
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they know his politics.
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100%
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they know his politics.
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One of the things
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that I walk through
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in the book
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Justice Corrupted
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is how
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with the Lois Lerner scandal,
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you remember
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under Barack Obama,
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the IRS
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was targeting
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conservatives,
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targeting Tea Party
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activists,
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targeting pro-Israel
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activists,
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targeting pro-life
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activists.
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And when the news
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broke,
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it was a huge
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scandal,
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so much so
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that Barack Obama
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gave a news conference
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from the White House
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where he said,
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I am angry
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and the American people
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have a right
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to be angry.
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He understood
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just how bad
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it was to politicize
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the IRS
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and law enforcement.
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And what ended up
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happening
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is the prosecutor
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they put in charge
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of this
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at DOJ
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was a major
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Democrat donor
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who'd given
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over $6,000
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to Barack Obama
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and to the DNC.
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And wonder of wonders,
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that major
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Democrat donor
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refused to bring
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charges.
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And DOJ
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then stonewalled
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Congress.
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Lois Lerner
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refused to testify.
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She pleaded the fifth.
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She was held
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in contempt of Congress.
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And the Department
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of Justice
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refused to prosecute her.
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And it blockaded
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any effort
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to hold her accountable.
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Merrick Garland
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knows exactly
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what he is doing
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in appointing
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this prosecutor.
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And the news media,
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which sadly today
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is thoroughly corrupt,
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will try to pitch him
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as a nonpartisan,
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given every other behavior
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from this attorney general.
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I think the chances
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that this prosecutor
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does not loathe
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Donald Trump
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are essentially zero.
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Lastly,
00:15:37.700
and we're going to be
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doing a video podcast,
00:15:39.920
we're going to break down
00:15:40.640
this story a lot more.
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So get ready for that
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this coming week on Monday.
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We'll have that for you.
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Plus, we'll have the audio.
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But lastly,
00:15:56.340
put this in perspective
00:15:57.540
in a historical context,
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Senator,
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of just how radical
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what we are witnessing now
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is comparing it
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to other countries.
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This is,
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I truly believe,
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a sad day for this nation.
00:16:10.840
It was a sad day
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and a slippery slope
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when the president's home
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was raided at Mar-a-Lago.
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The fact that a former
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president's home
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would be raided,
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it was a day
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where I was worried
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that we would never
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come back from it.
00:16:22.380
Now watching what's happened
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then moving forward,
00:16:25.220
trying to take out
00:16:26.160
the president,
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put him in handcuffs,
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convict him,
00:16:28.520
put him in jail.
00:16:30.060
How concerned are you
00:16:31.300
about just this nation
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in general?
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Because this is something
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we've never seen
00:16:35.780
in this country
00:16:36.380
and now the Democrats
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are actively doing it
00:16:38.380
in a revenge mode.
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Yeah, look,
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that's exactly right.
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We have had 46 presidents
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in our nation's history.
00:16:46.780
No president
00:16:47.580
has ever tried to do this.
00:16:50.380
We've had presidents
00:16:51.320
switch from one party
00:16:52.500
to the other.
00:16:52.980
And listen,
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you see in banana republics,
00:16:55.200
you see in tin pot
00:16:57.120
dictatorships,
00:16:58.240
when one party
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takes control
00:17:00.560
of the government,
00:17:01.820
they go after
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their predecessors,
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they prosecute them,
00:17:04.940
they lock them up
00:17:05.520
and put them in jail.
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And that,
00:17:08.100
sadly,
00:17:08.580
in places where
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rule of law
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is not respected,
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that's fairly typical
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of abusive
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and tyrannical governments.
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The United States
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has never,
00:17:21.040
ever,
00:17:21.640
ever done that.
00:17:23.620
Until now,
00:17:24.560
until Joe Biden
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and this politicized
00:17:27.620
Department of Justice,
00:17:29.000
they hate Trump so much
00:17:30.800
and they are so
00:17:32.540
self-righteous
00:17:34.120
and sure
00:17:34.820
of their own
00:17:35.680
partisan position,
00:17:37.640
they also know
00:17:38.920
because the corporate media
00:17:41.200
has been so corrupted
00:17:42.460
that the media
00:17:43.500
will not hold into account
00:17:44.640
that they could abuse
00:17:45.980
the Department of Justice
00:17:47.400
and the FBI
00:17:48.140
and not expect
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any meaningful scrutiny.
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that is
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incredibly dangerous,
00:17:55.120
but it is
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where we are today.
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It's incredible.
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We're going to have,
00:17:58.840
like I said,
00:17:59.500
another pod,
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an extended,
00:18:01.220
you know,
00:18:01.480
normal length one
00:18:02.400
on Monday for you
00:18:04.140
that will also be
00:18:04.900
with video
00:18:05.420
so you can watch it
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on YouTube.
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Senator,
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thanks for taking
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the time tonight.
00:18:09.380
I know you've had
00:18:09.780
a busy schedule today
00:18:10.600
and I know you want
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to talk to the people,
00:18:12.320
let them know exactly
00:18:12.940
what you thought about this
00:18:14.060
because this is going
00:18:15.020
to be a very big topic
00:18:16.100
of conversation
00:18:16.860
and a sad moment,
00:18:18.360
I think,
00:18:18.600
in American history
00:18:19.520
and we will see
00:18:20.460
all of you guys
00:18:21.420
back here on Monday.
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