Verdict with Ted Cruz - May 06, 2022


Big Sister Is Watching


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Length

32 minutes

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161.98804

Word Count

5,230

Sentence Count

319

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

6


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00:00:05.920 Within just days of Elon Musk announcing his intention to buy Twitter
00:00:10.260 to give conservatives a little more freedom to speak our minds
00:00:14.980 on just one of the big tech platforms,
00:00:17.860 the Biden administration has announced the creation
00:00:21.240 of a disinformation governance board,
00:00:24.600 a brand new ministry of truth
00:00:26.860 to make sure that misinformation, disinformation, malinformation,
00:00:33.220 really anything that you and I want to say is not allowed to be said.
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00:04:21.920 Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:04:24.520 For now,
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00:04:37.200 For now, Senator,
00:04:38.880 how much time do we have left?
00:04:41.320 Well, I don't know,
00:04:42.420 but I just got an order from Big Sis
00:04:44.300 that from now on,
00:04:45.680 this podcast must be done
00:04:47.840 entirely by singing Broadway show tunes.
00:04:50.980 That is a fate worse than a cancellation.
00:04:56.440 Big Sis, I suspect you're referring to,
00:04:58.680 is Nina Jankiewicz,
00:05:00.400 the Biden pick to lead
00:05:01.920 the Disinformation Governance Board,
00:05:04.600 about whom I know only two things.
00:05:06.740 One, she spread misinformation
00:05:08.960 about the Hunter Biden laptop.
00:05:11.300 And two, she loves singing show tunes on camera.
00:05:14.760 And to her credit,
00:05:15.980 she's actually a pretty good singer.
00:05:17.980 It's a little bizarre and creepy
00:05:19.860 what she sings,
00:05:21.180 but she, I don't know,
00:05:23.080 is a professional or semi-professional singer,
00:05:25.320 but she's this hard, knee-jerk leftist.
00:05:30.020 And, you know,
00:05:31.480 watching, number one,
00:05:33.020 Secretary Mayorkas,
00:05:34.920 who has presided over
00:05:36.480 the most lawless cadmium agency
00:05:38.480 in the history of our country,
00:05:39.860 which the Department of Homeland Security
00:05:42.300 has decided,
00:05:43.140 we don't enforce the border.
00:05:44.200 We let two million illegal aliens come in.
00:05:46.640 The law means nothing to us.
00:05:48.340 So now,
00:05:49.720 he's created this misinformation board
00:05:52.440 in charge of fighting misinformation.
00:05:54.760 And, you know,
00:05:55.220 you pointed out,
00:05:56.700 he did it literally within hours
00:05:58.980 of Elon Musk's buying Twitter.
00:06:02.420 It is stunning.
00:06:03.460 Listen,
00:06:03.920 the left's ideas
00:06:05.100 are crap.
00:06:07.660 They cannot defend them.
00:06:09.720 They don't want to defend them.
00:06:10.880 They want to silence everyone
00:06:12.100 who disagrees.
00:06:13.120 Let me show you something amazing
00:06:15.480 about Elon buying Twitter,
00:06:18.400 which is,
00:06:20.200 Twitter accepted Elon Musk's
00:06:22.420 offer to buy Twitter
00:06:24.200 on April 25th.
00:06:26.880 The very next day,
00:06:31.020 literally the next day,
00:06:32.040 April 26th,
00:06:33.940 my new Twitter followers skyrocketed.
00:06:37.820 So I'm just going to read you
00:06:39.020 the daily count of it
00:06:40.320 because it's stunning.
00:06:41.680 So on April 19th,
00:06:43.080 I gained 1,713 followers.
00:06:46.240 April 24th, 1,486.
00:06:49.060 April 25th,
00:06:50.200 the day Twitter says yes
00:06:51.520 to Elon Musk,
00:06:53.460 1,214.
00:06:54.940 So consistently day after day,
00:06:57.840 I'm between 1,000
00:06:58.760 and 2,000 new followers.
00:07:00.760 The next day,
00:07:01.860 what's your guess
00:07:02.740 as to how many new followers
00:07:03.780 I got the next day?
00:07:06.160 I'm going to say it doubled
00:07:07.500 at least.
00:07:08.560 On April 26th,
00:07:12.360 51,405.
00:07:16.120 Oh my gosh.
00:07:17.600 On April 27th,
00:07:19.900 61,251.
00:07:22.960 On April 28th,
00:07:25.760 70,584.
00:07:30.380 The level of shadow banning,
00:07:33.700 it's as if,
00:07:34.440 and by the way,
00:07:34.920 this is true for conservatives
00:07:35.900 across the board,
00:07:36.980 that they're seeing their numbers.
00:07:38.580 Mine literally went
00:07:39.520 from 1,000 to 2,000 a day
00:07:41.060 to 50,000, 60,000, 70,000.
00:07:44.840 I've gone from 4.8 million followers
00:07:46.920 to 5.1 million followers
00:07:48.920 in a week.
00:07:50.300 And all it took
00:07:51.320 was Elon buying it.
00:07:52.680 The same thing
00:07:53.620 has happened with me.
00:07:54.940 I am not a United States senator.
00:07:56.660 I have not run for president.
00:07:58.460 I am but a humble podcaster.
00:08:00.760 I've gained
00:08:01.380 at least 100,000 followers
00:08:03.300 in the,
00:08:04.100 what is it,
00:08:04.380 a week since Elon took over.
00:08:06.260 It's been something
00:08:07.180 like a clip
00:08:07.800 of 20,000 per day.
00:08:09.940 So either that means
00:08:11.360 that they've unleashed
00:08:12.740 the bots,
00:08:14.000 which I don't think it is,
00:08:15.200 by the way,
00:08:15.520 because my engagement
00:08:16.600 on Twitter is up.
00:08:18.540 I'm seeing new people,
00:08:20.080 new blue checkmark people
00:08:21.380 who are ostensibly verified
00:08:22.740 human beings.
00:08:23.580 It seems as though,
00:08:25.640 because don't forget,
00:08:26.520 this deal hasn't even
00:08:27.260 gone through yet.
00:08:28.000 So it's just the threat
00:08:29.580 that Elon is going to buy it.
00:08:30.840 It seems as though
00:08:31.440 this has lifted
00:08:32.040 a major shadow banning
00:08:33.700 of conservatives.
00:08:34.460 You know,
00:08:35.040 it's like they're sitting there
00:08:36.920 running the shredders
00:08:38.980 going,
00:08:39.740 oh crap,
00:08:40.440 they're going to find out
00:08:41.340 all the stuff we've done.
00:08:42.440 Shred it all.
00:08:43.100 Turn the algorithm off.
00:08:44.200 And then within hours,
00:08:47.920 the Biden administration
00:08:49.220 announces,
00:08:50.140 we have a new board
00:08:51.240 to fight misinformation.
00:08:53.240 I got to tell you,
00:08:53.840 I had,
00:08:54.420 so this week I've had
00:08:55.520 two hearings
00:08:56.160 where I've asked
00:08:56.800 Biden officials about this.
00:08:58.800 First of all,
00:08:59.280 I had a foreign
00:08:59.820 relations committee hearing
00:09:01.040 with the deputy
00:09:02.160 secretary of state
00:09:03.200 because,
00:09:04.800 okay,
00:09:05.080 so Mayorkas got popped
00:09:06.400 on Sunday about this
00:09:07.580 and he says,
00:09:07.920 no, no, no,
00:09:08.760 this is not to go
00:09:10.040 after American speech.
00:09:11.360 This is all about
00:09:12.280 foreign speech.
00:09:13.140 This is foreign
00:09:13.980 disinformation only.
00:09:15.680 Now,
00:09:15.820 mind you,
00:09:16.920 this office is not
00:09:19.060 at the U.S.
00:09:19.740 Department of State.
00:09:20.500 It's at the Department
00:09:21.440 of Homeland Security.
00:09:23.240 It's directed
00:09:23.980 at Americans
00:09:24.960 in the homeland.
00:09:25.880 But their talking point
00:09:26.960 is,
00:09:27.280 no, no, no,
00:09:27.520 this is only
00:09:28.060 foreign disinformation.
00:09:29.480 So I asked
00:09:30.280 the Department of State
00:09:31.240 today,
00:09:31.960 the deputy secretary
00:09:32.840 of state,
00:09:33.240 I said,
00:09:33.500 it so happens
00:09:34.280 there actually
00:09:35.500 is a longstanding
00:09:36.780 office at the
00:09:37.800 State Department
00:09:38.480 whose statutory
00:09:40.260 mission is
00:09:41.220 to fight
00:09:42.460 disinformation
00:09:43.760 abroad
00:09:45.020 from foreign
00:09:46.060 governments.
00:09:47.520 And it's funded,
00:09:48.500 Congress just funded
00:09:49.300 them $150 million.
00:09:50.960 Its statutory
00:09:52.040 mission is exactly
00:09:53.360 what these clowns
00:09:54.240 are claiming
00:09:54.620 the new office
00:09:55.240 is going to do.
00:09:56.180 So I asked
00:09:56.800 the State Department,
00:09:57.760 gosh,
00:09:59.040 did anybody
00:09:59.800 talk to you
00:10:00.500 about this?
00:10:01.260 No.
00:10:01.960 Do you know
00:10:02.300 anything about it?
00:10:03.100 No,
00:10:03.380 I have no idea.
00:10:04.060 Is it concerning
00:10:05.820 to you that
00:10:06.420 they've announced
00:10:06.980 a new office
00:10:08.160 that they're claiming
00:10:09.280 is doing the same
00:10:10.200 thing your existing
00:10:11.020 office is doing?
00:10:12.160 I have no idea.
00:10:13.220 Nobody consulted us.
00:10:14.160 We know nothing.
00:10:15.200 So that was lie
00:10:15.860 number one.
00:10:18.040 Number two,
00:10:20.000 we also had
00:10:20.780 Pete Buttigieg,
00:10:21.720 the secretary
00:10:22.180 of transportation,
00:10:23.660 testifying before
00:10:24.700 the Senate today.
00:10:25.920 And I asked him
00:10:26.580 about this.
00:10:27.980 And I said,
00:10:29.040 look,
00:10:29.200 I read a quote
00:10:30.020 from the presidential
00:10:31.300 campaign where he
00:10:32.160 gave,
00:10:32.520 he waxed poetically
00:10:33.740 about free speech
00:10:34.600 is wonderful.
00:10:35.300 It's incredible.
00:10:36.220 It's what makes
00:10:36.880 America America.
00:10:37.740 I value free speech.
00:10:39.520 When I was a soldier
00:10:40.580 fighting for America,
00:10:41.660 the flag on my shoulder,
00:10:43.080 it represented free speech.
00:10:44.740 It was,
00:10:45.080 you know,
00:10:45.260 he's a pretty eloquent guy.
00:10:47.240 And I read the whole quote.
00:10:48.600 I said,
00:10:48.980 you know,
00:10:49.180 gosh,
00:10:49.440 I agree with every word of that.
00:10:50.920 That's beautifully stated.
00:10:52.960 Do you still agree with that?
00:10:54.220 Do you still agree
00:10:54.740 with free speech?
00:10:55.560 Yes.
00:10:56.580 Well,
00:10:56.760 then why did the Biden
00:10:57.560 administration announce
00:10:58.680 an office,
00:10:59.660 the ministry of truth
00:11:00.740 to silence people
00:11:02.280 who disagree with you?
00:11:03.920 And he immediately
00:11:04.960 backtracked.
00:11:05.740 He's like,
00:11:05.980 well,
00:11:06.440 well,
00:11:06.900 well,
00:11:07.100 I don't know.
00:11:07.500 I don't know.
00:11:08.520 I'm like,
00:11:08.780 well,
00:11:08.900 come on.
00:11:09.360 I mean,
00:11:09.740 you're,
00:11:10.320 you're aware of this,
00:11:11.280 right?
00:11:12.260 And he's like,
00:11:12.860 well,
00:11:14.520 well,
00:11:16.720 well,
00:11:16.860 I,
00:11:17.140 I don't know,
00:11:18.400 but it's to stop disinformation
00:11:20.240 to stop Russian disinformation.
00:11:23.800 I said,
00:11:24.400 really?
00:11:24.680 Like Hunter Biden's laptop?
00:11:26.520 Is that what you mean
00:11:27.620 by disinformation?
00:11:29.160 He's like,
00:11:29.480 well,
00:11:29.600 I don't know anything
00:11:30.360 about Hunter Biden's laptop.
00:11:32.120 It's like,
00:11:32.760 oh,
00:11:32.980 really?
00:11:33.600 Nobody seems to know
00:11:34.480 anything about Hunter Biden's laptop,
00:11:36.220 do they?
00:11:36.440 Well,
00:11:36.660 and in this case,
00:11:37.920 the woman who's going to be running
00:11:40.020 the Ministry of Truth here for Biden
00:11:42.060 used that specific example.
00:11:44.460 So this is not just a hypothetical.
00:11:46.020 She said the Hunter Biden laptop
00:11:47.580 was a case of Russian disinformation.
00:11:50.120 And so presumably,
00:11:51.140 this board would have completely wiped away
00:11:53.920 that news story
00:11:54.720 had big tech
00:11:55.940 and the establishment media
00:11:57.900 not already done that for them
00:11:59.100 two years ago.
00:12:00.580 Now,
00:12:00.740 that's exactly right.
00:12:02.020 And as you know,
00:12:03.460 the talking point,
00:12:04.560 there were 50 former leaders
00:12:07.040 from the intelligence community
00:12:08.280 that put out a letter
00:12:09.680 when Hunter Biden's laptop broke
00:12:11.580 that said,
00:12:12.400 this has all the classic signs
00:12:14.120 of Russian disinformation,
00:12:15.220 which we've learned now
00:12:17.040 is code for,
00:12:18.640 this is really bad
00:12:20.380 for the Democratic presidential nominee.
00:12:22.240 But we now know that letter
00:12:25.520 was an outright blatant lie.
00:12:29.520 We know the talking point
00:12:31.220 that I don't know whether we should call Nina
00:12:33.940 the Minister of Truth
00:12:36.160 or the Commissar.
00:12:37.580 I'm kind of on the fence
00:12:39.600 as to what her
00:12:40.920 totalitarian title should be.
00:12:45.340 But she was out there pushing,
00:12:47.500 this is Russian disinformation
00:12:48.780 and that's an utter lie.
00:12:50.620 And leftists define as disinformation
00:12:54.380 anything that is inconvenient for them,
00:12:58.660 anything they disagree with,
00:13:00.280 and especially anything
00:13:01.940 that is politically damaging,
00:13:04.280 they call disinformation.
00:13:05.440 And this is the Biden administration
00:13:07.880 nakedly getting caught
00:13:09.840 with their hand in the cookie jar
00:13:11.360 to mix my metaphors pretty badly.
00:13:13.000 I'm going to upset my Yale colleague here
00:13:14.980 with that rather mangled illusion.
00:13:17.720 That is exactly the kind of thing
00:13:19.680 that the new censorship board
00:13:21.220 is going to censor,
00:13:22.500 the mixing of metaphors.
00:13:23.820 And that's a wonderful thing.
00:13:25.040 There's a little silver lining
00:13:26.120 in that storm cloud.
00:13:27.820 Senator, the White House
00:13:29.600 has given two examples
00:13:32.000 of the kind of thing
00:13:34.020 that the board is going to shut down.
00:13:36.380 That is calls to violent extremism
00:13:39.580 and as you say,
00:13:41.920 foreign disinformation,
00:13:43.080 specifically Russian disinformation.
00:13:44.900 And the problem,
00:13:45.520 it would seem to me,
00:13:46.340 is that the White House
00:13:47.860 accuses everything
00:13:49.100 that Republicans say
00:13:50.680 of being a call
00:13:51.960 to violent extremism
00:13:52.880 or Russian disinformation.
00:13:54.120 So we're joking about it.
00:13:55.800 It's absurd.
00:13:56.540 And it's funny to make fun
00:13:58.100 of this power-hungry lady
00:14:00.520 and the whole Biden administration.
00:14:02.240 But what are they going to do
00:14:04.160 and what are we going to do about it?
00:14:05.960 Look, it is so bad
00:14:08.020 that this week,
00:14:09.900 Jake Tapper from CNN
00:14:12.120 was forced to go on TV
00:14:14.860 and acknowledge,
00:14:16.260 yeah, she does really seem
00:14:17.460 to be a partisan
00:14:18.220 where she echoes
00:14:19.260 the Democratic talking points
00:14:20.860 and she's skeptical
00:14:21.660 of everything Republicans say.
00:14:23.540 And there's a clear political bias
00:14:25.680 in her take on things.
00:14:27.220 Now, when Jake Tapper,
00:14:28.840 who has become a mouthpiece
00:14:30.700 for the hard left,
00:14:32.160 he didn't used to be,
00:14:32.980 but he's become that,
00:14:34.740 when even he says that,
00:14:36.800 like, holy cow,
00:14:38.060 so what are we going to do about it?
00:14:40.180 Listen, I think one thing
00:14:41.160 we're doing about it,
00:14:41.820 we're doing right now,
00:14:42.640 which is just shining enough
00:14:43.880 of a light on it
00:14:44.780 that it prevents them
00:14:46.860 from going forward.
00:14:47.920 I do think you're seeing
00:14:49.200 the Biden administration
00:14:50.440 backpedaling.
00:14:52.960 There's been enough
00:14:53.940 of a blow pack.
00:14:54.700 I actually think labeling it
00:14:57.440 the ministry of truth
00:14:58.540 is really powerful
00:14:59.760 because, look,
00:15:00.860 obviously there are
00:15:01.700 communist regimes
00:15:02.700 that have ministries of truth
00:15:04.060 and that throw you
00:15:05.280 in the gulag
00:15:06.040 for daring to speak
00:15:08.040 other than the government line.
00:15:11.440 And calling this out
00:15:14.080 for what it is,
00:15:15.140 my hope is
00:15:16.140 that we, you know,
00:15:20.020 cut it off
00:15:21.040 right at the beginning.
00:15:24.060 If not,
00:15:25.540 then there's a reason
00:15:27.260 why I asked about it
00:15:28.740 twice this week
00:15:29.840 to two different
00:15:30.520 Biden officials
00:15:31.300 because I want to keep
00:15:32.380 the pressure on,
00:15:33.580 I want to keep the light on,
00:15:34.640 I want to force them
00:15:35.460 to defend
00:15:36.060 this ridiculous
00:15:37.740 abuse of power.
00:15:40.100 And if they continue
00:15:41.200 to try to go forward
00:15:42.380 with it,
00:15:43.480 next year,
00:15:45.520 I believe we're going
00:15:46.280 to have majorities
00:15:47.020 in both the House
00:15:47.680 and Senate.
00:15:48.160 We ought to use
00:15:48.660 the majorities
00:15:49.180 in the House
00:15:49.540 and Senate
00:15:49.880 to cut off the funding
00:15:50.960 and to shut it down
00:15:52.580 because the government
00:15:53.400 has no business
00:15:54.400 silencing
00:15:55.480 what the American people say.
00:15:57.240 I don't think
00:15:57.960 the timing is coincidental.
00:15:59.820 It's just too perfect
00:16:01.440 right after,
00:16:02.580 we've been joking about it,
00:16:03.520 but I think it's legit.
00:16:05.280 Right after Elon Musk
00:16:06.240 announces this,
00:16:07.320 you get the announcement
00:16:08.180 from the White House.
00:16:09.420 So,
00:16:09.980 then turning to Musk,
00:16:11.600 do you think this deal
00:16:12.860 is going to go through,
00:16:14.720 one,
00:16:15.260 and two,
00:16:16.680 what does that mean
00:16:17.700 for conservatives
00:16:18.440 on social media,
00:16:19.280 whether we're talking
00:16:20.140 about how the other
00:16:20.820 big tech platforms
00:16:21.600 are going to react
00:16:22.260 or whether we're talking
00:16:23.680 about how the government
00:16:24.380 is going to react.
00:16:25.480 Joe Biden is already
00:16:26.180 talking about clamping
00:16:27.600 down on Twitter
00:16:28.200 the minute they free up
00:16:29.260 speech for conservatives.
00:16:30.820 Yeah,
00:16:30.960 and by the way,
00:16:31.860 the European Union
00:16:32.680 is rattling its swords
00:16:34.600 and reminding Twitter,
00:16:35.740 we have rules to follow.
00:16:39.620 Look,
00:16:40.100 I think the deal
00:16:41.040 is going to go through.
00:16:42.020 I don't know for sure.
00:16:42.780 I don't know the inside
00:16:43.640 details of the deal,
00:16:44.900 but Elon seems
00:16:47.080 very committed
00:16:47.740 and certainly vocally committed.
00:16:49.180 The board has accepted it.
00:16:50.800 According to the public reporting,
00:16:52.360 he had financing locked down.
00:16:54.580 The financing may change
00:16:56.580 in terms of the mix
00:16:57.500 of debt and equity.
00:16:58.220 That wouldn't surprise me,
00:16:59.520 but it certainly seems
00:17:00.640 like it's going forward.
00:17:01.840 You know,
00:17:03.820 I will say there is an irony
00:17:05.300 that Elon Musk
00:17:07.060 has suddenly become
00:17:08.220 the champion
00:17:08.960 and the defender
00:17:10.040 of conservatives.
00:17:12.720 Elon vocally supported
00:17:15.220 and voted for Barack Obama
00:17:16.720 not once but twice.
00:17:18.840 You know,
00:17:19.160 Joe Rogan,
00:17:19.840 the other person
00:17:20.540 who has become,
00:17:21.420 they may be the two
00:17:22.340 most important people
00:17:23.400 concerning free speech
00:17:24.480 in the entire country,
00:17:25.780 Joe Rogan
00:17:26.260 and Doris Bernie Sanders.
00:17:27.680 So neither one of them
00:17:28.820 meets the standard definition
00:17:31.800 of a conservative.
00:17:34.040 But they both appreciate liberty.
00:17:36.740 They both value free speech.
00:17:39.680 You know,
00:17:40.060 it spoke volumes.
00:17:41.080 I don't know if you saw last week
00:17:42.540 a journalist at Time Magazine,
00:17:44.500 and I put journalist
00:17:45.300 in scare quotes,
00:17:47.320 said that free speech
00:17:49.540 is an obsession
00:17:50.420 of rich white guys.
00:17:52.760 Like,
00:17:54.360 the,
00:17:55.080 today's corporate media
00:17:57.160 wants to silence
00:17:58.700 everybody
00:17:59.980 except
00:18:01.800 themselves.
00:18:03.660 They want to have
00:18:04.520 a monopoly on speech.
00:18:06.240 Only the corporate media
00:18:07.640 and only big tech.
00:18:09.260 And I know you've seen
00:18:10.280 the meme
00:18:10.780 that Elon tweeted out,
00:18:12.380 which I think
00:18:12.720 is incredibly accurate,
00:18:13.880 that it showed
00:18:14.560 him previously
00:18:16.060 where you had
00:18:17.360 the right,
00:18:17.900 the left,
00:18:18.420 the center,
00:18:18.920 and it had him
00:18:19.400 left of center.
00:18:20.260 And then what it showed
00:18:21.320 was the left
00:18:22.700 running full speed
00:18:24.720 to the left
00:18:25.360 and suddenly
00:18:25.960 the center moved
00:18:27.100 so he was right of center.
00:18:28.660 But in the meme,
00:18:29.940 he hadn't moved an inch,
00:18:31.120 it's just the crazies
00:18:32.320 had taken over
00:18:33.320 the Democratic Party.
00:18:34.200 By the way,
00:18:34.520 Bill Maher's in the same boat
00:18:35.740 where these are
00:18:36.600 old school liberals
00:18:38.040 that just happen
00:18:40.240 to believe
00:18:40.820 in actual liberty.
00:18:42.400 And that,
00:18:44.000 in today's
00:18:45.560 Democratic Party,
00:18:46.600 that is
00:18:47.260 not only
00:18:48.580 not
00:18:49.000 the mainstream anymore,
00:18:50.600 that is a
00:18:51.360 heretical view
00:18:52.400 that must be
00:18:53.820 demonized
00:18:54.740 and quashed.
00:18:55.620 What do you think
00:18:56.740 the electoral politics
00:18:58.140 of this look like?
00:18:59.080 Do you think
00:18:59.560 that this plays
00:19:01.160 for Democrats?
00:19:02.360 Do you think
00:19:02.660 this Ministry of Truth
00:19:03.980 is going to help them
00:19:04.860 in the midterms,
00:19:06.040 whether through
00:19:06.420 the operation
00:19:07.080 of the agency
00:19:08.400 or just through
00:19:09.580 the public perception
00:19:10.540 of it?
00:19:10.980 Or are they
00:19:11.680 stepping on a rake here?
00:19:12.780 I think they're
00:19:13.540 stepping on a rake,
00:19:14.880 but a word you use
00:19:16.580 there that is important
00:19:17.680 and that we don't
00:19:18.400 know yet
00:19:19.020 is operation.
00:19:21.520 Like,
00:19:21.840 whether this board
00:19:22.840 will actually have
00:19:23.900 any legal power
00:19:25.080 or authority
00:19:25.860 if they engage
00:19:27.160 how they intend
00:19:28.700 to engage,
00:19:29.800 if it's just a,
00:19:31.400 look,
00:19:32.100 an example,
00:19:32.960 an example
00:19:33.400 we've talked about
00:19:34.340 early on
00:19:35.100 when it happened
00:19:35.620 on this podcast
00:19:36.360 was Dr. Fauci
00:19:38.460 in emails
00:19:39.600 asking Mark Zuckerberg
00:19:41.520 to silence
00:19:43.260 and censor
00:19:44.180 any discussions
00:19:45.080 of the origins
00:19:46.080 of COVID-19
00:19:46.960 and in particular
00:19:47.800 discussions
00:19:48.560 that it had
00:19:49.900 escaped from
00:19:51.120 a Chinese government
00:19:52.120 lab in Wuhan.
00:19:52.920 Wuhan
00:19:53.340 and we talked
00:19:54.220 about two years
00:19:55.080 ago
00:19:55.460 this podcast
00:19:56.700 walked through
00:19:57.740 exhaustively
00:19:59.220 the evidence
00:20:00.000 that suggests
00:20:01.160 and suggests
00:20:01.820 overwhelmingly
00:20:02.560 that COVID-19
00:20:04.160 escaped from
00:20:04.980 a Chinese government
00:20:05.760 lab in Wuhan.
00:20:08.300 Zuckerberg
00:20:08.820 was more than
00:20:09.420 happy to comply.
00:20:10.400 He said,
00:20:10.760 yes,
00:20:11.000 we will censor it,
00:20:11.920 we will keep it silent.
00:20:13.520 I could see this board
00:20:15.160 playing a similar role
00:20:16.620 and, for example,
00:20:17.520 emailing Zuckerberg
00:20:18.420 and Facebook
00:20:19.800 going along.
00:20:20.640 I don't know
00:20:22.460 whether there are
00:20:23.040 media outlets
00:20:23.640 that will go along.
00:20:25.260 I feel confident
00:20:26.620 Elon Musk
00:20:28.200 won't go along
00:20:29.280 and it's why
00:20:30.180 his buying Twitter
00:20:31.060 is so important
00:20:32.780 because it creates
00:20:33.820 a significant avenue.
00:20:36.500 By the way,
00:20:37.940 one thing people
00:20:39.280 may not realize
00:20:40.420 as to why Twitter
00:20:41.640 matters so much.
00:20:43.280 So a tiny percentage
00:20:44.500 of Americans
00:20:45.060 actually listen,
00:20:46.180 follow Twitter
00:20:47.060 and those
00:20:50.440 that do
00:20:51.000 skew pretty heavily
00:20:51.900 left.
00:20:52.340 If the world
00:20:52.980 were the Twittersphere,
00:20:54.500 we'd all be screwed.
00:20:56.060 We'd be sunk.
00:20:56.820 Yeah.
00:20:57.100 You know,
00:20:57.400 AOC would be president.
00:20:58.700 So I'm glad
00:20:59.780 that the world
00:21:00.640 is not the Twittersphere.
00:21:02.540 Now,
00:21:03.000 some of that
00:21:03.540 is amplified
00:21:05.760 by the shadow banning
00:21:07.940 and practices.
00:21:08.620 So we may find out
00:21:09.840 that the Twittersphere
00:21:10.560 is not as left
00:21:11.520 as it appears.
00:21:12.180 but most normal Americans
00:21:16.220 are not on Twitter.
00:21:17.100 The reason it matters,
00:21:17.880 one of the reasons
00:21:18.300 it matters so much
00:21:19.120 is every reporter
00:21:20.140 in the universe
00:21:20.740 is on Twitter.
00:21:22.220 And so I can tell you
00:21:23.140 in politics,
00:21:23.960 frankly,
00:21:24.460 the way you get out
00:21:25.640 a statement
00:21:26.060 and get it out quickly
00:21:26.920 is you go to Twitter
00:21:28.500 and you put it out
00:21:29.520 and it's an amazing thing.
00:21:31.300 Look,
00:21:31.520 Donald Trump
00:21:32.440 pioneered this in 2016
00:21:34.180 and I was
00:21:35.040 on the opposing side
00:21:36.620 and he captured
00:21:37.820 how to use Twitter
00:21:38.860 and just dominate
00:21:40.420 the news
00:21:41.060 within instances.
00:21:42.180 And it is a wild thing
00:21:44.740 that I will pull out my phone
00:21:46.780 and I'll send a tweet
00:21:48.040 and within minutes
00:21:49.680 I can turn on the TV
00:21:50.900 and see my tweet
00:21:51.960 on the news
00:21:53.080 driving the news
00:21:54.340 and driving messaging.
00:21:56.060 That's part of why
00:21:57.340 free speech on Twitter matters
00:21:59.040 because it influences
00:22:00.780 everyone that has
00:22:03.180 outlets of communication.
00:22:05.640 That is potent
00:22:08.100 for the overall public discourse.
00:22:10.300 Right.
00:22:10.500 I agree.
00:22:11.120 It does set the news
00:22:12.620 in a way
00:22:13.160 that Facebook
00:22:13.880 and YouTube
00:22:14.480 and Google don't.
00:22:15.520 I think that's why
00:22:16.300 they are absolutely losing it
00:22:18.080 that Elon is promising
00:22:19.440 conservatives
00:22:20.020 a little more freedom.
00:22:21.520 On this question
00:22:22.200 of political speech,
00:22:23.360 I am ashamed to say
00:22:24.280 that I have neglected
00:22:25.260 our verdict listeners,
00:22:26.680 but I will do that no more.
00:22:28.040 There's a question
00:22:28.540 I really want to get to here
00:22:29.620 in the mailbag.
00:22:30.820 You, of course,
00:22:31.320 can join Verdict Plus
00:22:32.900 over on Locals,
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00:22:39.520 This question
00:22:40.240 comes to us
00:22:41.240 from Al,
00:22:41.900 who says,
00:22:42.660 Senator Cruz,
00:22:43.980 how do you think
00:22:44.620 the court will rule
00:22:46.140 on Ted Cruz
00:22:47.820 versus FEC?
00:22:49.940 A question
00:22:50.580 not only about
00:22:51.200 political speech,
00:22:51.940 but about a case
00:22:52.940 that you are
00:22:53.420 heavily involved in.
00:22:54.540 Yeah, no,
00:22:54.960 it's a case
00:22:55.400 I care a great deal about.
00:22:57.700 It is a case
00:22:58.820 challenging,
00:22:59.880 and I'm the name
00:23:01.080 plaintiff,
00:23:01.700 I brought the lawsuit.
00:23:03.240 It is challenging
00:23:04.140 an element
00:23:04.680 of McCain-Feingold,
00:23:05.720 which is the big
00:23:07.560 campaign finance law.
00:23:08.980 It's a terrible law.
00:23:10.800 One element
00:23:11.480 of the law
00:23:12.180 limits the ability
00:23:13.860 of a political candidate
00:23:15.040 to pay themselves
00:23:16.260 back for loans
00:23:18.100 they make
00:23:18.620 to their campaign,
00:23:19.820 and so it caps it
00:23:21.360 at paying yourself
00:23:23.420 back
00:23:23.900 at $250,000
00:23:25.980 is the most
00:23:27.800 you can pay yourself
00:23:28.720 back from funds
00:23:29.800 received after
00:23:30.640 the campaign,
00:23:31.180 and so,
00:23:32.220 you know,
00:23:32.680 you have lots
00:23:33.380 of candidates
00:23:33.880 who put
00:23:35.720 their life savings
00:23:36.480 into a campaign,
00:23:37.480 and they may
00:23:38.100 put $500,000
00:23:39.320 or more
00:23:40.480 into a campaign,
00:23:41.820 and McCain-Feingold
00:23:42.740 says,
00:23:43.120 well, tough,
00:23:44.120 you're not allowed
00:23:44.660 to pay yourself
00:23:45.260 back,
00:23:45.640 you've just
00:23:46.100 basically given
00:23:47.160 a gift to democracy,
00:23:48.260 and doesn't it
00:23:49.200 suck to be you?
00:23:50.640 And by the way,
00:23:51.780 the reason
00:23:52.340 that Congress
00:23:53.820 passed it,
00:23:54.460 if you go look
00:23:54.900 at the debates,
00:23:56.140 it's an incumbent
00:23:56.840 protection plan
00:23:57.780 because
00:23:58.960 one of the ways
00:24:01.260 incumbents
00:24:01.880 avoid being beat
00:24:03.180 is their challengers
00:24:04.180 can't raise any money,
00:24:05.640 and they don't have
00:24:06.100 the name ID
00:24:06.560 to raise money,
00:24:07.300 and so what happens
00:24:08.160 often is someone
00:24:09.560 will invest their own
00:24:10.440 money into the race,
00:24:11.200 and it is how
00:24:12.820 challengers get
00:24:14.040 the initial oxygen
00:24:15.600 to get their message
00:24:17.100 out.
00:24:17.560 Well, if you make it
00:24:18.420 that, you know,
00:24:19.560 Michael, you put your
00:24:20.300 money into the race,
00:24:21.200 and even if you win,
00:24:22.340 you can't get it back,
00:24:23.260 and it's going to cost you,
00:24:25.120 you might be willing
00:24:26.300 to do it,
00:24:26.820 but a lot of people
00:24:27.500 are not,
00:24:27.980 and so it's designed
00:24:29.060 to protect
00:24:30.800 incumbents
00:24:32.260 from challengers
00:24:33.000 taking them on,
00:24:33.760 so I brought
00:24:34.600 a constitutional challenge
00:24:35.720 to this provision.
00:24:37.560 I won a unanimous
00:24:38.840 decision in the lower
00:24:39.780 court,
00:24:40.240 so a three-judge
00:24:41.080 district court
00:24:41.720 struck down
00:24:42.500 this provision
00:24:43.200 of McCain-Feingold.
00:24:45.120 The appeal is pending
00:24:46.040 at the Supreme Court.
00:24:47.020 It's been briefed.
00:24:47.660 It's been argued.
00:24:48.800 We're waiting
00:24:49.500 on the decision.
00:24:50.220 I think the decision
00:24:50.940 will be very soon.
00:24:51.820 It could literally
00:24:52.320 be any day now.
00:24:53.340 I think we're
00:24:54.200 in the sweet spot
00:24:55.520 of when the decision
00:24:56.980 is going to come down,
00:24:57.920 I am cautiously optimistic.
00:25:01.140 I think the chances
00:25:02.080 are good
00:25:02.840 that we prevail.
00:25:04.600 If the court
00:25:05.620 addresses the merits,
00:25:06.880 in other words,
00:25:07.360 if the court
00:25:07.900 answers the question,
00:25:09.320 is this provision
00:25:10.360 of law unconstitutional,
00:25:12.360 I think the odds
00:25:13.280 are extremely high
00:25:14.160 we win.
00:25:14.520 I think it is
00:25:15.640 on the merits
00:25:16.600 we are very,
00:25:17.780 very likely to win.
00:25:19.680 There is some chance
00:25:21.280 that we lose
00:25:21.900 on a procedural ground.
00:25:23.740 The Biden Justice Department
00:25:25.180 had a procedural ground
00:25:26.480 that was a
00:25:27.160 technicality
00:25:28.420 that was based
00:25:29.080 on a factual mistake,
00:25:30.420 but I will say
00:25:31.580 at the oral argument
00:25:32.540 it sure seemed
00:25:33.340 like John Roberts
00:25:34.240 was fishing around
00:25:35.540 trying to get
00:25:36.140 some justices
00:25:36.880 to basically
00:25:38.160 throw the lawsuit
00:25:39.200 out on the procedural ground.
00:25:41.380 I don't know
00:25:42.160 if he will succeed
00:25:42.880 with that or not,
00:25:44.380 but that's
00:25:45.540 how the argument
00:25:47.540 came across.
00:25:48.620 So if they get
00:25:49.420 to the merits,
00:25:50.440 we are very,
00:25:52.080 very likely to win,
00:25:53.240 but there's some chance
00:25:54.420 they punt it
00:25:55.160 and avoid the merits
00:25:55.920 altogether.
00:25:56.380 Perhaps I will be nicer
00:25:58.240 to Chief Justice Roberts
00:25:59.540 on this show
00:26:00.140 for just the next
00:26:00.900 couple of weeks
00:26:01.640 to make sure
00:26:02.720 this thing doesn't
00:26:03.360 get thrown out
00:26:03.940 on procedural grounds
00:26:05.080 because that will
00:26:07.020 be an interesting
00:26:07.540 free speech case
00:26:08.660 and we'll look forward
00:26:09.860 to seeing it.
00:26:11.020 Last question
00:26:11.980 also has to do
00:26:13.040 with the court.
00:26:14.020 This is from Michael
00:26:14.960 who says,
00:26:16.860 how do you believe
00:26:17.660 the leak
00:26:18.360 of the Alito opinion
00:26:21.080 in the Dobbs case,
00:26:22.640 how do you believe
00:26:23.420 the Supreme Court leak
00:26:24.720 will affect
00:26:25.680 the midterm elections?
00:26:27.860 And he has two hashtags.
00:26:29.060 He says,
00:26:29.340 hashtag verdict,
00:26:30.320 hashtag Cruz 2024.
00:26:32.260 I'm just reading
00:26:32.880 the whole message.
00:26:33.700 So I don't know
00:26:34.520 that the leak itself
00:26:35.880 has a significant impact
00:26:37.520 on the midterms.
00:26:38.680 I do think the leak
00:26:40.120 is a manifestation
00:26:41.080 of how the Democrats
00:26:42.160 are destroying
00:26:43.100 our institutions,
00:26:43.900 trying to burn them down.
00:26:45.560 And in particular,
00:26:46.580 the degree to which
00:26:47.440 the leftists
00:26:48.120 are cheering it on
00:26:49.220 and literally saying,
00:26:50.380 burn it down.
00:26:51.120 I think that is beneficial
00:26:54.160 for the midterms
00:26:55.040 and in terms of people
00:26:56.260 realizing the radicals
00:26:58.780 really are in charge
00:26:59.860 of this party.
00:27:00.600 It's not unlike
00:27:01.820 the Antifa riots
00:27:03.860 in terms of just showing
00:27:05.220 that these guys
00:27:05.980 are extreme and crazy.
00:27:09.960 In terms of the
00:27:11.380 underlying decision,
00:27:12.800 I think what is likely
00:27:13.780 to be more consequential
00:27:15.000 in the midterm
00:27:15.640 is the decision itself.
00:27:17.020 And if the majority opinion
00:27:19.200 continues to be
00:27:19.940 the majority opinion
00:27:20.860 and if the outcome
00:27:21.600 is that the court
00:27:22.480 does strike down
00:27:23.520 Roe versus Wade,
00:27:25.640 I can tell you
00:27:26.320 Democrats in Washington
00:27:27.520 are holding on to that
00:27:28.640 as their Hail Mary chance
00:27:29.900 to save the midterms.
00:27:30.960 They believe that people
00:27:31.860 will be horrified
00:27:32.580 and that'll help them win.
00:27:34.900 And I got to tell you,
00:27:35.960 more than a few
00:27:37.260 Republican senators
00:27:38.280 are nervous that's the case.
00:27:40.880 There's several of us
00:27:42.140 who are conservatives
00:27:42.920 who've been trying
00:27:43.620 to make the case
00:27:44.480 to the nervous Nellies
00:27:45.820 in our conference.
00:27:47.060 It'll be okay.
00:27:48.040 This is going to be fine.
00:27:49.940 And I actually think
00:27:52.360 it probably will not have
00:27:54.360 much of an effect
00:27:55.460 on the midterms
00:27:56.360 and to the extent
00:27:57.060 it has an effect,
00:27:58.180 it will be a positive effect.
00:28:00.620 Here's why I think
00:28:01.780 it will have less of an effect
00:28:03.140 than the Democratic strategists think.
00:28:05.120 Because the people
00:28:06.300 who are most dismayed
00:28:07.520 about that
00:28:08.120 are hard leftists
00:28:09.140 that are clustered
00:28:09.840 in bright blue states
00:28:10.900 like New York, California.
00:28:13.980 Nothing's going to change
00:28:15.060 in those states.
00:28:15.800 At least for the immediate term,
00:28:19.440 California is going to continue
00:28:20.780 to allow unlimited abortion
00:28:22.320 on demand.
00:28:23.000 Roe versus Wade is,
00:28:23.860 if it's struck down,
00:28:25.360 California ain't changing
00:28:26.380 their laws
00:28:26.920 until we get new elected officials
00:28:28.600 in California.
00:28:30.140 And so I think
00:28:31.340 the kind of angry leftists,
00:28:34.500 many of whom
00:28:35.400 are pretty ignorant
00:28:36.800 and don't even know
00:28:37.520 what overturning Roe means,
00:28:39.600 I think a month afterwards
00:28:41.560 they're going to be surprised,
00:28:42.680 wait,
00:28:42.860 nothing about my life changed.
00:28:46.280 In other parts of the country
00:28:47.800 that are not bright blue,
00:28:48.960 in redder states,
00:28:50.040 in states like Tennessee,
00:28:52.340 states like Texas,
00:28:53.180 you're going to see
00:28:54.180 some meaningful restrictions
00:28:56.240 on abortion
00:28:56.880 and it's going to vary
00:28:57.740 state by state
00:28:58.680 how extensive
00:29:00.300 those restrictions are.
00:29:03.800 That was the framers' view
00:29:05.340 in the Constitution
00:29:06.080 is to let the rules
00:29:08.100 in each state
00:29:08.820 reflect the values
00:29:09.960 of the citizens
00:29:10.580 of those states.
00:29:11.440 but in the redder states
00:29:13.420 there are fewer people
00:29:15.600 that are going to be
00:29:16.120 horrified by that
00:29:17.120 and I think
00:29:20.680 you're going to have
00:29:21.200 a positive effect
00:29:22.520 of people
00:29:24.000 in the pro-life community
00:29:25.100 who have been fighting
00:29:25.860 for this for 50 years
00:29:27.620 being energized
00:29:29.120 and I am hopeful
00:29:31.100 that that being energized
00:29:32.880 is going to cause them
00:29:34.060 to turn out
00:29:34.860 and vote at the polls
00:29:36.060 and I think that could lead
00:29:38.280 to an even bigger majority
00:29:39.720 in the House
00:29:40.300 and the Senate
00:29:40.780 next year.
00:29:42.480 Right, that's a great point
00:29:43.400 because not only
00:29:44.680 is nothing going to change
00:29:46.140 in terms of abortion law
00:29:47.520 in the most pro-abortion places
00:29:50.100 but even if something
00:29:52.160 did change
00:29:52.880 and the Democrats
00:29:53.820 were irate
00:29:54.560 and steam were coming
00:29:55.280 out of their ears
00:29:55.920 nothing's going to change
00:29:57.340 about whom they're electing
00:29:58.600 and nothing's going to change
00:29:59.480 about the members of Congress
00:30:00.580 or the senators
00:30:01.480 or anything else.
00:30:02.960 That is a hopeful note
00:30:04.380 to end on, Senator,
00:30:05.960 that this case
00:30:07.940 might not only come out
00:30:08.940 with a good end
00:30:09.580 for the pro-life movement
00:30:10.580 but also might not hurt us
00:30:12.360 at the polls.
00:30:12.840 Frankly, it might even help us.
00:30:15.040 Before we go,
00:30:16.000 we've got to bring on
00:30:16.660 our friend Liz Wheeler
00:30:17.820 because you're not done yet, sir.
00:30:19.920 We've finished our episode
00:30:21.020 but you've got an episode
00:30:21.940 of Cloak Room coming up.
00:30:23.740 Liz, what are you going
00:30:24.240 to talk about?
00:30:24.820 Hi, Michael.
00:30:25.420 Hi, Senator Cruz.
00:30:26.480 I know that we've been talking
00:30:28.260 about this leaked draft
00:30:30.480 majority opinion
00:30:31.340 from the Supreme Court
00:30:32.620 overturning Roe v. Wade
00:30:33.740 or at least it does
00:30:35.680 in this draft opinion.
00:30:37.960 You guys have talked
00:30:38.680 about it a lot.
00:30:39.260 We've heard about it a lot
00:30:39.940 but there are more details
00:30:41.740 that need to be discussed
00:30:42.780 so we are going to do
00:30:43.620 a little investigative dive
00:30:45.300 into who exactly
00:30:46.900 might have leaked
00:30:48.160 this opinion,
00:30:49.100 how this might have happened
00:30:50.800 and whether the Supreme Court
00:30:52.400 actually will overturn
00:30:54.540 Roe v. Wade.
00:30:55.300 So join us on the Cloak Room
00:30:57.160 on Verdict Plus.
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00:31:13.140 It's going to be
00:31:13.920 quite the discussion.
00:31:14.940 I hope you'll join us.
00:31:16.440 So Michael,
00:31:17.860 yes, Senator,
00:31:18.460 in honor of Big Sis,
00:31:20.740 will you close us
00:31:21.540 on a show tune?
00:31:24.360 Senator,
00:31:25.160 I absolutely will
00:31:26.440 and do you know why?
00:31:27.520 Because I feel pretty
00:31:29.240 and I feel witty
00:31:30.920 and I feel pretty
00:31:32.360 and witty
00:31:33.400 and gay
00:31:34.840 and I pity
00:31:36.320 any podcaster
00:31:38.360 who isn't me.
00:31:39.720 Today,
00:31:40.200 I'm Michael Knowles.
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