00:08:43.220And we ended the night with a long program discussing anti-Semitism, discussing hate, discussing Israel, discussing Abdul Al-Sayed's record.
00:08:56.560uh and mike and i both participated there were between five and seven hundred people at the at
00:09:03.560the event and it was a it was a fireside conversation but one of the people who came
00:09:08.780to the event was hayley stevens's fiance a gentleman named jason turkish so hayley hayley
00:09:16.040is not jewish she she is christian she's protestant her fiance is jewish and and actually
00:09:21.920on the day of the event that I was there with Mike Rogers, her fiance decided to publicly endorse
00:09:28.440Mike Rogers. And he did so. And so at the event, I had a chance to visit with him and a very good
00:09:35.140conversation. And by the way, he's a Democrat, has been a Democrat donor. Like he remains a
00:09:39.680passionate Democrat. But Abdul Al-Sayed is so radical, he's so dangerous, he's so extreme
00:09:45.580that Jason said he wanted to stand up and speak the truth and take on this evil. He doesn't want
00:09:53.260to see his party corrupted and turned into an Islamist party, turned into a Jew-hating party.0.88
00:10:00.300And so he was at the event. I visited with him. He's a very impressive guy.
00:10:04.980And he was talking to a lot of reporters. So he was publicly saying, I'm with Mike Rogers now. Now,
00:10:09.540that naturally produced a whole lot of intrigue and a whole series of stories. Well, wait, if
00:10:14.820If Haley Stevens' fiancee is with Mike Rogers, does that mean she is?
00:12:26.800And you literally have a husband and wife saying, we can't afford bananas.1.00
00:12:30.960And they put the bananas back away because of the Jews, damn it.1.00
00:12:36.060And I mean, it's a hateful ad. And so Haley, Abdul Al-Sayed invited her to come to a moment of unity, Democrat unity on Sunday with Jim Clyburn, the Democrat congressman from from South Carolina.0.99
00:12:53.860And she said she'd be happy to come. She said, yes. And she said publicly, I disagree with my
00:12:58.380fiance. I'm still supporting Abdul. But she said, I do need him to disavow this hateful ad
00:13:04.380that is just Jew baiting and is nasty. And you know what he said? He said, no, I won't do it.0.85
00:13:11.500And listen, there's a reason he won't do it, because that's who Abdul Al-Sayed is. That's1.00
00:13:16.560what he believes. And then it got nastier and nastier. Not only would he not disavow it,
00:13:21.080he said, I don't want you to come to the event. Stay away from the event. And so it was very
00:13:26.540publicly like, get the hell away from me. If you're not a full-on Muslim Brotherhood loving0.96
00:13:32.980radical, you have no place in my party. And then Sunday morning, Sunday morning,0.92
00:13:42.000the news broke that she had gone to church. Instead of going with Abdul Al-Sayed, she went
00:13:46.780with Mike Rogers. And so she was just sitting in the pews with Mike Rogers at church. And that was
00:13:52.160like, everyone was like, wow, this is, is this, is this what it seems like it might be? And then
00:13:59.440afterwards she put out the video and made the full-on endorsement. I'll tell you, Ben, when she
00:14:05.080did, I'm going to read, read you what I tweeted. I tweeted, extraordinary and massively consequential,
00:14:13.200something very rare in politics, a true profile and courage from Haley Stevens.
00:14:21.000She is putting country before party and rightly acknowledging that Abdul El-Sayed is too radical,
00:14:30.000hateful, and dangerous to serve in the Senate. Bravo. It is a big, big deal, and it took real
00:14:39.040courage to do what she did. All right, I want to jump in here and take a quick moment. I want to
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00:21:51.840Look, she's still a Democrat, but this is outside of just being a Democrat.
00:21:56.720This is about something bigger than that.
00:21:59.280And I got to say, as you described earlier, this is a very brave move, but it could have major consequences for her political future as well.
00:22:08.440No, that's right. And listen, she has been a Democrat, an elected Democrat for years.
00:22:16.580She is very much a, you know, she believes in the policy positions of the Democrat Party consistently.0.79
00:22:23.280But she also is a person of principle, and I think she's been horrified by the extremism, by the hatred that Abdul Al-Sayed has demonstrated.
00:22:32.000And, you know, some people will dismiss it.
00:22:34.780People will assume, oh, she must be Jewish.
00:22:39.620She just actually rejects Islamism and does not want to see Michigan or America give in to that extremism.0.61
00:22:48.220and and the reaction was immediate and it was ferocious her party leaders like she paid a real
00:22:54.560price i want you to read what chuck schumer tweeted right after she put this out quote
00:22:59.260this is a despicable betrayal from representative stevens senate democrats are united in our support
00:23:07.140for abdul el-sayed because we know he will fight for the economic interest of working families in
00:23:12.800Michigan, unlike Mike Rogers, who is a tool of Donald Trump and billionaire donors. And I got
00:23:20.440to say, look, just when I think Schumer could not be more hollow, more empty, I retweeted that
00:23:29.720statement and here's what I said. Disgraceful. Schumer and Pelosi care only about power.0.74
00:23:37.520nothing else matters. Tragic. Haley Stevens showed remarkable character and courage and
00:23:46.780principle. She put America before party. And Schumer and Pelosi's savage attacks on her for0.86
00:23:54.400doing so shows who they are and what they value. And I'll tell you, when I visited with her fiance
00:24:02.460in michigan i shared with him a story i said look i understand i'm a republican and normally both
00:24:10.080parties stand with with their nominee that's that's what the two parties do in a two-party
00:24:13.920system and that's usually the case but there are times when the line goes too far we saw that
00:24:19.860earlier this year with graham platner yeah in maine the self-avowed communist who had a nazi
00:24:26.520tattoo on his chest, a Totenkopf, the Nazi SS symbol of the death camps of Auschwitz and the
00:24:35.360other death camps on his chest. And the only Democrat senator in the country, there's only one,
00:24:41.120John Fetterman was willing to say that's too far. Every other senator, Chuck Schumer was like,
00:24:46.500hey, Nazi tattoo on your on your chest. Goodbye, me. Good to go. Yeah. The same principle is true.
00:24:54.140And what I shared with Haley Stevens' fiance is I said, listen, a couple of cycles ago, you may remember when Republicans nominated Roy Moore to the Senate in Alabama.
00:32:30.920The group worked to coax another would-be spoiler into the race
00:32:34.340to dilute the incumbent support and help catapult the Democrat to victory. The endeavor,
00:32:40.980which was internally called the Ballot Composition Project, involves secret trips to far-flung
00:32:46.980Alaskan communities and the appearance of a mysterious Midwestern operative who traversed
00:32:52.380the state using a fake name and made his pitch to would-be candidates over beers at brewpubs.
00:32:58.840It also involves the Patola campaign's lawyers, as well as senior aides at the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, which directs the party's campaign strategy in Senate races across the country.
00:33:11.600From Washington to Anchorage, those advisers participated in regular conversations about the effort and even considered forming a new political party to draw conservatives into the ballot.