Verdict with Ted Cruz - September 25, 2025


BONUS POD： ICE Detention Center Attacked as Democrats continue Rhetoric Onslaught

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Boston mayor comparing ICE to neo-Nazis political violence and immigration policies
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Ted Cruz
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Gavin Newsom Donald Trump Jasmine Crockett Ben Ferguson JD Vance Stephen Miller Michelle Wu Kash Patel Todd Lyons Pam Bondi Tim Waltz Bullshit Gestapo Biden
Kamala Says Being Gay or Jewish was a Disqualifier from Being her VP Candidate plus Kimmel BACK on ABC Comey Indicted for Lying under Oath in response to my Questioning plus Sniper Targets Dallas ICE Facility

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On Wednesday, a gunman opened fire on an ICE facility in Dallas, Texas, leaving one migrant detainee dead and two others in critical condition. The Federal Bureau of Investigations has also revealed that at least one of the shell casings from the attack was etched with anti-ICE messaging, indicating a left-wing ideological motive.

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00:00:02.460 Guaranteed human.
00:00:05.660 In 2024, the UN budgeted $372 million in cash assistance to support an estimated 624,000
00:00:14.840 migrants journeying into the United States.
00:00:17.920 Think of that.
00:00:18.580 The UN is supporting people that are illegally coming into the United States, and then we 1.00
00:00:23.160 have to get them out.
00:00:24.040 The UN also provided food, shelter, transportation, and debit cards.
00:00:28.280 You're listening to the 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson.
00:00:32.420 Good Thursday morning.
00:00:33.560 Nice to have you with us on the 47 Morning Update, and there's one major story we're covering
00:00:38.000 today, and that is the demonizing of ICE agents is now causing more attacks.
00:00:43.780 This time, the second time we've seen an attack on ICE facilities in Dallas alone.
00:00:49.300 So what are Democrats saying in response?
00:00:51.660 They're blaming ICE for doing their jobs.
00:00:54.380 And Democrats continue to demonize, even hours before the attack, federal immigration law
00:01:01.200 enforcement officers.
00:01:03.140 All right, I want to take a moment, and I want to talk to you real quick about what you can
00:01:07.420 do to help the people in Israel.
00:01:10.560 It was nearly two years ago that the terrorists murdered more than 1,200 innocent Israelis, and
00:01:17.300 they took 250 hostages.
00:01:19.020 Today, it seems as if the cries of the dead and dying have been drowned out by the shouts
00:01:24.680 of anti-Semitism and just pure hatred, not just in America, but around the world.
00:01:29.380 And the most brutal attack on Jewish people happened.
00:01:32.140 It happened since the Holocaust, and now it's like they're trying to act like it never happened. 0.55
00:01:38.680 Now, this is where it is important for us to stand with the people in Israel.
00:01:42.680 It's a movement of love and support for the people of Israel, and this is where I want
00:01:49.240 you to get involved.
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00:02:10.740 and solidarity with the victims of October the 7th, 2023, and stand with their grieving families.
00:02:18.740 You can be a part of this movement as well, and that's what I love about what IFCJ does.
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00:02:30.100 and friends and advocates for Israel.
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00:03:09.040 That's ifcj.org.
00:03:12.260 It's the 47 Morning Update, and it starts right now.
00:03:15.740 Story number one.
00:03:16.960 On Wednesday, a gunman opened fire on an Immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE facility
00:03:22.480 in Dallas, Texas, leaving one migrant detainee dead and two others in critical condition.
00:03:28.560 The Federal Bureau of Investigations, the FBI Director, Kash Patel, has also revealed that
00:03:34.460 at least one of the shell casings from the gunman's bullet was etched with anti-ICE messaging,
00:03:42.520 indicating a left-wing ideological motive for the attack.
00:03:46.800 For months in the lead-up to the attack on the Dallas ICE facility, Democrats have continuously
00:03:52.760 made statements demonizing ICE agents, doxing ICE agents, and also going after the agency's
00:04:00.520 acting director, Todd Lyons.
00:04:02.960 Todd Lyons has publicly asked him to halt the rhetoric for fear of a targeted attack, just
00:04:08.220 like the one we witnessed on Wednesday.
00:04:11.140 Now, there are eight different occasions when Democrats could have chosen the high road,
00:04:16.200 but clearly in a coordinated effort, are continuing to go after ICE agents for enforcing federal
00:04:23.560 immigration law.
00:04:25.600 Gavin Newsom, for example, claims ICE agents will help suppress voter turnout.
00:04:31.080 In fact, just eight hours before the attack in Dallas, he was demonizing ICE agents on national
00:04:38.780 TV, and here's what he had to say.
00:04:41.320 That's happening in the United States of America.
00:04:43.140 Masked men jumping out of unmarked cars, people disappearing, no due process, no oversight,
00:04:50.140 zero accountability, happening in the United States of America today.
00:04:53.180 People ask, well, is authoritarianism, you're being hyperbolic? 1.00
00:04:56.280 Bullshit, we're being hyperbolic. 1.00
00:04:58.140 If you're a black and brown community, it's here in this country. 1.00
00:05:02.040 And so I'm deeply proud that I had the privilege of signing the nation's first bill to address
00:05:09.540 the issue of masking, also to require you have simple identification, to your point.
00:05:15.360 I mean, if some guy jumped out of an unmarked car in a van with a mask on, tried to grab me,
00:05:19.920 I mean, by definition, you're going to push back.
00:05:22.740 And so these are not just authoritarian tendencies.
00:05:26.280 These are authoritarian actions by an authoritarian government.
00:05:29.740 You saw what Stephen Miller said last week.
00:05:33.020 This should put chills up fine.
00:05:34.160 Called the Democratic Party an extremist organization, basically a terrorist organization,
00:05:40.480 saying he's going after his enemies.
00:05:42.180 You saw the tweet that Donald Trump sent out, True Social, basically telling Pam Bondi,
00:05:46.880 I want these three people taken out.
00:05:48.920 That's happening in the United States.
00:05:50.640 That was eight hours, eight hours before the attack on ICE agents in Dallas.
00:05:58.760 Gavin Newsom said people need to push back on ICE agents because they're the result of an
00:06:03.560 authoritarian government.
00:06:06.400 And this morning, a sniper shot up an ICE facility, killing innocent, by the way, immigrants,
00:06:12.740 to be very clear.
00:06:14.140 But that's not the only time Gavin Newsom has been saying this.
00:06:17.820 Last month, during a podcast episode, the California governor made the unprecedented claim
00:06:24.280 that ICE agents may be used by President Donald Trump's in next year's midterm election
00:06:29.540 to help suppress voter turnout.
00:06:32.880 Quote, Trump's already sending out mass people to intimidate folks.
00:06:36.920 When we launched our campaign, did it down in little Tokyo in L.A.
00:06:41.900 Do you think ICE is not going to show up around voting and polling booths to chill participation?
00:06:47.820 And you know that?
00:06:48.960 The National Guard, you know that?
00:06:50.560 That's what he went on to say.
00:06:52.380 Yes, this is the insanity of the left.
00:06:55.620 Advocating for exactly what is happening today and having people get angry.
00:07:00.920 Jasmine Crockett, the representative from Texas, made inflammatory suggestions that ICE agents 0.95
00:07:06.380 are akin to slave patrols during an interview with MSNBC just last week.
00:07:13.020 Here's her in her own words.
00:07:14.820 What they're doing right now, it almost feels like, you know, I've seen the memes about the
00:07:20.040 purge and all these things.
00:07:21.860 But as somebody who understands history, when I see ICE, I see slave patrols.
00:07:27.680 Now, I never lived through the slave patrol period.
00:07:31.140 But if you know the history of policing in this country, then you understand that they were
00:07:35.600 born out of slave patrols.
00:07:37.060 And now with the Supreme Court saying this, it's almost like you can just go grab them
00:07:41.860 up.
00:07:42.480 That is what they're saying.
00:07:43.920 And that is a problem.
00:07:45.060 We all should have a problem with that.
00:07:46.840 But when you don't want to teach American history that includes black history, then you 0.80
00:07:51.320 lose out on the benefit of understanding that we have been down this road before and it was
00:07:56.580 not good and we fixed it once.
00:07:58.400 And it is a shame that we are relitigating this and we are going to have to fix it again.
00:08:02.720 So let's just be very clear.
00:08:05.700 Jasmine Crockett refers to ICE agents grabbing illegal immigrants, many of them that have
00:08:13.280 committed heinous crimes as slave patrols.
00:08:18.460 And you wonder why we are now witnessing what we are witnessing right now with the violence
00:08:24.840 against ICE agents.
00:08:26.740 The Boston mayor, Michelle Wu, she said this about ICE agents.
00:08:33.320 I don't know of any police department that routinely wears masks.
00:08:39.620 We know that there are other groups that routinely wear masks.
00:08:42.420 NSC 131 routinely wears masks.
00:08:44.480 Mayor, just to clarify, are you comparing ICE, you said, to NSC 131, the neo-Nazi group?
00:08:51.000 Are you comparing them to a neo-Nazi group?
00:08:52.940 What I said is that Boston police and no police department that I know of at the local level
00:08:58.240 routinely wears masks.
00:09:00.000 Boston mayor comparing ICE agents to neo-Nazis.
00:09:05.040 Tim Waltz saying this at a graduation ceremony about Department of Homeland Security and ICE.
00:09:12.760 Descapo is scooping folks up off the streets.
00:09:15.800 They're in unmarked vans wearing masks, being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons.
00:09:19.900 No chance to mount a defense, not even a chance to kiss a loved one goodbye, just grabbed up
00:09:25.440 by masked agents, shoved into those vans and disappeared.
00:09:28.840 To be clear, there's no way for us to know whether they were actually criminals or not
00:09:33.120 because they refused to give them a trial.
00:09:35.400 We're supposed to just take their word for it.
00:09:37.700 That is the man who was the vice presidential candidate and a governor of a state saying that
00:09:45.300 ICE agents are the Gestapo.
00:09:47.620 So you look at all of that and then you go back to what happened in Dallas.
00:09:54.880 I want you to listen closely to what the acting director of the Dallas ICE field office
00:10:00.640 had to say today about this being the second time it's happened in his jurisdiction.
00:10:07.160 This is the second time I've had to stand in front of you and talk about a shooter
00:10:11.320 at one of my facilities.
00:10:14.780 And I think that the takeaway from all of this is that the rhetoric has to stop.
00:10:20.820 There are people out there who are seeing what is being placed online and they're coming
00:10:29.420 and they're doing acts of violence against ICE employees.
00:10:32.780 It's dangerous.
00:10:34.240 And people are losing their lives.
00:10:35.960 People are losing their lives.
00:10:39.240 But what are the Democrats saying?
00:10:41.620 Not even close to that.
00:10:43.520 They're now blaming ICE for being divisive.
00:10:47.120 Yes, MSNBC as people have been shot and there are people that are clinging for their lives.
00:10:53.860 And after we are seeing this happen on MSNBC, one of their correspondents said today,
00:11:00.080 quote, it's very early to know the motive of the ICE facility shooter,
00:11:04.220 even though we knew it was written on the bullet casings.
00:11:07.620 And then they went on to blame ICE.
00:11:10.420 We have also seen the very dramatic videos of ICE nabbing individuals, they said,
00:11:15.220 and tossing them into unmarked vehicles, justifying the violence.
00:11:20.120 Senator Ted Cruz also coming out, talking about how this must stop.
00:11:26.060 Here's what he said.
00:11:27.440 This needs to stop.
00:11:29.420 Violence is wrong.
00:11:31.820 Politically motivated violence is wrong.
00:11:35.200 It was two weeks ago today that we saw a political assassination in Utah
00:11:39.120 that tore the heart out of much of this country.
00:11:43.080 This is the third shooting in Texas directed at ICE or CBP.
00:11:48.460 This must stop.
00:11:51.680 To every politician who is using rhetoric, demonizing ICE and demonizing CBP, stop.
00:12:00.540 To every politician demanding that ICE agents be doxed and calling for people to go after their families, stop.
00:12:09.000 This has very real consequences.
00:12:11.800 Look, in America we disagree.
00:12:13.520 That's fine.
00:12:14.140 That's the democratic process.
00:12:15.560 But your political opponents are not Nazis.
00:12:19.920 We need to learn to work together without demonizing each other, without attacking each other.
00:12:25.580 And I want to say thank you.
00:12:27.040 I want to say thank you to the brave men and women of law enforcement.
00:12:30.820 I want to say thank you to the brave men and women of ICE and CBP
00:12:34.560 and everyone who puts their lives on the line to keep us safe.
00:12:40.100 The divisive rhetoric tragically has real consequence.
00:12:43.560 I hope that every one of us will, I hope that every one of us will pray.
00:12:48.900 Number one, for the safety of law enforcement that are risking their lives to keep us safe.
00:12:54.180 Number two, for the health of those who were shot and injured today, we still don't know the full details of who was injured,
00:13:02.580 but for the families also of the victims of this shooting.
00:13:05.840 Violence has no place.
00:13:07.700 It is wrong, and we should come together.
00:13:11.180 If we want to have a debate about immigration policies, we can do so in the halls of Congress
00:13:16.360 without demonizing each other, and especially without demonizing the men and women who every day put on a badge
00:13:24.200 and go risk their lives to keep us safe.
00:13:27.100 And we should not be putting language out there that inspires madmen to commit evil crimes.
00:13:36.720 Our prayers are with the men and women of law enforcement,
00:13:39.640 and we ought to come together and have some decency across the political aisle
00:13:44.280 to say this violence is wrong and it needs to stop.
00:13:49.200 So will there be that type of decency?
00:13:52.420 Well, moments later on MSNBC, this is what they said.
00:13:57.580 What about the politically motivated side of this?
00:14:00.340 This is now the fourth shooting that we've seen in just a little bit over a year
00:14:06.040 where the suspect has allegedly written on the casings of bullets some sort of politically motivated message.
00:14:14.600 Yeah, so, I mean, terrorism is theater.
00:14:18.540 It's intended to influence an audience beyond its immediate victims.
00:14:23.040 It's putting a message out.
00:14:25.680 And terrorism falls into really three categories.
00:14:28.840 It's either religiously motivated, ideologically motivated, or in this case, politically motivated.
00:14:34.560 And the politically motivated ones, it doesn't happen in a vacuum.
00:14:37.800 It happens because conditions have been set that people start acting out against.
00:14:42.060 What are the conditions?
00:14:43.000 So, you know, distrust in institutions.
00:14:45.100 That's been building for quite some time.
00:14:47.540 Attacks on institutions.
00:14:49.300 The wealth gap.
00:14:51.120 Oppressive policies.
00:14:52.840 At least this is what, you know, people perceive.
00:14:55.920 And then, you know, the militarization of ICE and other federal law enforcement, the wearing of the mask, aggressive tactics.
00:15:03.200 So, the people who are starting to act out against this feel it's their only recourse.
00:15:11.520 Again, this is predictable.
00:15:12.960 We see this happening throughout our history and in other places as well.
00:15:16.720 So, you know, we can tone down the rhetoric in that that's the right message.
00:15:22.060 But you also have to start looking at what policies you've implemented and what tactics you're using.
00:15:28.800 Because if you tone down the rhetoric but you leave those other pieces in place, nothing's going to change.
00:15:33.680 So, I wonder, though, I mean, this is...
00:15:35.720 This is incredible.
00:15:38.460 ICE needs to change their policies.
00:15:40.480 Meaning, don't actually enforce the laws.
00:15:42.840 Go back to what was happening before and allow so many radicals to come into this country.
00:15:49.720 Those that are selling fentanyl, killing Americans. 0.99
00:15:52.720 Those that are sex trafficking children and abusing children. 1.00
00:15:56.540 Those that are committing murders and violent crimes and rape. 0.95
00:16:00.100 No, they're saying go back to the Biden policies.
00:16:03.160 Or there will be more violence against ICE agents.
00:16:07.760 J.D. Vance, the vice president of the United States of America, summed it up perfectly.
00:16:11.980 When he said this...
00:16:12.980 You don't have to agree with my immigration policies.
00:16:16.440 You don't have to agree with Donald Trump's immigration policies.
00:16:19.760 But if your political rhetoric encourages violence against our law enforcement, 0.72
00:16:25.060 you can go straight to hell and you have no place in the political conversation of the United States of America.
00:16:31.140 When Democratic politicians incur doxing, when they encourage us to unmask ICE enforcement officers,
00:16:38.600 what do you think is going to happen?
00:16:39.840 Political violence has gotten out of control in this country.
00:16:43.580 We've got to stop it.
00:16:44.620 We've got to condemn it.
00:16:45.500 And that starts, unfortunately, at the very top of the Democratic Party.
00:16:50.020 Amen to that.
00:16:51.120 J.D. Vance, if your political rhetoric encourages violence against our law enforcement,
00:16:55.980 you can go straight to hell. 0.98
00:16:58.220 Thank you for listening to the 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson. 0.94
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