Verdict with Ted Cruz - Comey Indicted for Lying under Oath in response to my Questioning plus Sniper Targets Dallas ICE Facility

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00:00:04.260 Welcome.

00:00:04.920 It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:07.940 Nice to have you with us wherever you are around the country,

00:00:10.180 especially if you're listening on radio right now as well.

00:00:13.260 We've got a packed show.

00:00:15.140 And Senator, I don't even know if you thought that it was going to be all about you

00:00:19.660 with the James Comey indictment.

00:00:22.560 He has been indicted for alleged false statements,

00:00:24.900 obstruction of congressional proceedings. 0.94

00:00:26.620 This is obviously, as you would say, a big damn deal.

00:00:31.060 And the clip of you talking to James Comey is what everyone's playing on TV right now.

00:00:36.780 Well, Ben, it's a momentous day.

00:00:38.480 The former director of the FBI, James Comey, has been indicted on two counts

00:00:41.960 of lying to Congress under oath.

00:00:45.040 And lying to Congress under oath, to be clear,

00:00:47.840 in response to questioning from me in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

00:00:52.240 The grand jury has indicted him.

00:00:54.020 He's facing prosecution, and we are seeing the media losing their minds.

00:00:58.580 The media is letting out a primal scream of horror.

00:01:03.060 The Democrats are horrified.

00:01:05.360 We're going to break down exactly why James Comey has been indicted.

00:01:09.340 We're going to give you the factual predicate.

00:01:10.860 We're going to give you the legal predicate.

00:01:13.040 And I will tell you, James Comey is defending himself,

00:01:16.240 and he's defending himself as a partisan, as someone who hates Donald Trump.

00:01:19.960 He is defending himself as if he were Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi,

00:01:23.760 rather than actually addressing the facts that I believe demonstrated he committed,

00:01:29.080 deliberately committed felonies when he testified and falsely testified under oath to the United

00:01:34.200 States Senate.

00:01:35.240 We're going to give you all those details.

00:01:37.240 We're also going to talk about the tragic shooting that happened when a deranged

00:01:40.980 sniper targeted an ICE facility in Dallas, Texas.

00:01:44.540 I was on the ground there moments after the shooting occurred.

00:01:48.780 This is yet the latest instance of politically motivated violence and violence directed against

00:01:54.620 ICE agents and CBP and law enforcement.

00:01:58.480 This is getting worse and worse, and this must stop.

00:02:02.100 We're going to tell you exactly what happened and give you all the facts.

00:02:05.500 Yeah, it's certainly a very, very, very big story.

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00:04:41.920 All right, so Senator, I want to start with this clip,

00:04:46.140 and I think this is a great starting point for this indictment of the former FBI director, James Comey.

00:04:52.200 This is you questioning, Comey, back in September of 2020.

00:04:58.640 This is the back and forth between the two of you, everyone listening.

00:05:02.600 This is really an important part of history now and going to probably be an important part of this case.

00:05:07.540 Let's go to another topic.

00:05:09.760 On May 3rd, 2017, in this committee, Chairman Grassley asked you point blank,

00:05:15.880 quote, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports

00:05:19.520 about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation?

00:05:24.040 You responded under oath, quote, never.

00:05:27.740 He then asked you, quote,

00:05:29.440 have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source

00:05:33.340 in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton administration?

00:05:38.100 You responded again under oath, no.

00:05:41.100 Now, as you know, Mr. McCabe, who works for you,

00:05:44.200 has publicly and repeatedly stated

00:05:46.540 that he leaked information to the Wall Street Journal

00:05:50.160 and that you were directly aware of it

00:05:52.260 and that you directly authorized it.

00:05:54.780 Now, what Mr. McCabe is saying

00:05:58.340 and what you testified to this committee cannot both be true.

00:06:02.060 One or the other is false.

00:06:04.440 Who's telling the truth?

00:06:06.400 I can only speak to my testimony.

00:06:08.260 I stand by what the testimony you summarized

00:06:10.760 that I gave in May of 2017.

00:06:12.860 So your testimony is you've never authorized anyone to leak.

00:06:16.580 And Mr. McCabe, if he says contrary, is not telling the truth.

00:06:19.680 Is that correct?

00:06:20.840 Again, I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony,

00:06:22.860 but mine is the same today.

00:06:24.780 All right, I'm going to make a final point because my time has expired.

00:06:28.400 This investigation of the president was corrupt.

00:06:31.120 The FBI and the Department of Justice were politicized and weaponized.

00:06:35.580 And in my opinion, there are only two possibilities. 0.86

00:06:38.720 That you were deliberately corrupt or woefully incompetent.

00:06:42.780 And I don't believe you were incompetent.

00:06:45.220 This has done severe damage to the professionals

00:06:48.960 and the honorable men and women at the FBI

00:06:51.120 because law enforcement should not be used as a political weapon.

00:06:56.180 All right, so you listen to that

00:06:58.380 and then you look at the indictment.

00:07:00.560 Count one, false statement to the U.S. Senate

00:07:02.620 that he had not, quote,

00:07:04.300 authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous news source.

00:07:08.580 Count two,

00:07:09.720 Comey obstructed the Senate Judiciary Committee's investigation

00:07:12.080 investigation through his, quote,

00:07:13.740 false and misleading statements.

00:07:16.540 That is a big smoking gun.

00:07:19.240 Well, it is.

00:07:20.200 It's the basis of the indictment.

00:07:21.820 And this will be the central focus of the trial.

00:07:25.740 Now, James Comey put out a statement tonight on Instagram.

00:07:28.720 And his statement is striking in that it is a political statement.

00:07:32.480 It is not a statement about the facts or the law.

00:07:35.560 So give a listen to what James Comey said this evening

00:07:38.080 in response to the indictment.

00:07:39.980 My family and I have known for years

00:07:42.140 that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump.

00:07:46.140 But we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way.

00:07:50.220 We will not live on our knees.

00:07:52.440 And you shouldn't either.

00:07:54.580 Somebody that I love dearly recently said

00:07:57.400 that fear is the tool of a tyrant.

00:08:00.520 And she's right.

00:08:02.460 But I'm not afraid.

00:08:04.540 And I hope you're not either.

00:08:06.320 I hope instead you are engaged.

00:08:09.120 You are paying attention.

00:08:10.760 And you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it.

00:08:15.700 Which it does.

00:08:17.640 My heart is broken for the Department of Justice.

00:08:21.280 But I have great confidence in the federal judicial system.

00:08:24.940 And I'm innocent.

00:08:25.560 So let's have a trial.

00:08:28.360 I love how he is a victim there

00:08:32.000 and acting like he's above all of this.

00:08:34.600 But Senator, let's just go back to 3.30 of 23.

00:08:39.020 James Comey tweeted out,

00:08:41.120 quote,

00:08:41.480 It's been a good day.

00:08:43.680 That is how he reacted to Trump being indicted

00:08:45.960 in the Alvin Bragg hush money case.

00:08:48.340 So to act like he's some sort of guy that's above all this,

00:08:51.340 look at his own words.

00:08:52.280 Well, his statement he put out in response to this,

00:08:55.740 that could have been given by Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi

00:08:58.700 or Keem Jeffries or any other political Democrat.

00:09:02.080 And in fact, he makes a call,

00:09:04.320 come out and vote.

00:09:05.100 It's a get out the vote message.

00:09:06.480 This is a former director of the FBI.

00:09:09.400 But to give you a sense of just how much he loathes Donald Trump,

00:09:14.060 this is a former director of the FBI who tweeted out to the world

00:09:17.320 a picture of shells spelling out 8647,

00:09:22.040 in other words, slang for kill,

00:09:23.760 the current president of the United States, Donald J. Trump. 0.89

00:09:26.120 To say calling for the murder of the sitting president

00:09:30.000 is not appropriate for the former FBI director,

00:09:33.300 in an ordinary time,

00:09:34.940 that would be such an obvious statement

00:09:36.700 that no one would even think to say it.

00:09:39.640 But that's just how much James Comey loathes Donald Trump.

00:09:44.700 And understand,

00:09:45.780 when Trump became president the first time,

00:09:49.500 in January of 2017,

00:09:51.100 President Trump unfortunately made a serious mistake,

00:09:55.500 which is he left James Comey in office.

00:09:58.420 In hindsight,

00:09:59.760 on January 20th, 2017,

00:10:02.320 President Trump should have called James Comey

00:10:04.140 and said,

00:10:04.540 thank you for your service to the nation.

00:10:06.000 Your services are no longer required.

00:10:08.200 I am certain President Trump wishes he had done that.

00:10:12.140 I think the White House team believed

00:10:14.320 that Comey could focus on law enforcement,

00:10:16.840 could not be politicized.

00:10:18.420 And that assumption proved to be in error.

00:10:23.560 James Comey presided over weaponizing

00:10:26.460 and politicizing the FBI.

00:10:28.580 He was part of weaponizing

00:10:30.100 and politicizing the Department of Justice.

00:10:33.120 And it was because they hated Donald Trump.

00:10:36.840 And frankly, they were angry at the American people

00:10:39.060 for electing him in 2016.

00:10:41.140 And so the FBI set out

00:10:43.240 to try to attack

00:10:46.060 and to try to ultimately remove from office

00:10:48.500 the President of the United States.

00:10:50.740 Now, again,

00:10:52.000 this should not bear saying,

00:10:55.760 but it is not the job of law enforcement

00:10:58.020 to determine the will of the voters is wrong

00:11:01.100 and the elected president

00:11:02.840 should no longer be president.

00:11:04.200 But that's what Comey presided over.

00:11:06.400 And so when I listen to him say,

00:11:07.920 I weep for the Department of Justice,

00:11:10.300 it really is,

00:11:11.660 you know,

00:11:11.880 there's a Yiddish word,

00:11:12.900 chutzpah.

00:11:13.440 And I got to say,

00:11:14.640 James Comey really ought to have a T-shirt

00:11:16.700 with that printed on it

00:11:17.940 because he is grieving

00:11:20.280 for the Department of Justice.

00:11:21.800 Why?

00:11:22.740 Because he has been indicted

00:11:24.200 for what I think is clearly a felony.

00:11:26.940 And we're going to break down

00:11:28.160 in just minutes

00:11:28.900 why exactly this is a felony,

00:11:31.700 what the crime is.

00:11:32.660 And I want to point out,

00:11:34.400 nowhere in his statement

00:11:35.720 does Comey get into the actual facts.

00:11:38.880 Nowhere in the statement

00:11:39.740 does he get into what he did.

00:11:40.940 Nowhere in the statement

00:11:42.460 does he get into the law.

00:11:44.040 He just gives a political statement.

00:11:46.400 He will not be on his knees. 0.70

00:11:48.100 He calls Trump a tyrant

00:11:49.400 who is ruling by fear.

00:11:51.420 Look,

00:11:51.860 this is an indictment

00:11:52.940 that was returned

00:11:53.720 by a grand jury

00:11:54.780 in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

00:11:56.660 And it was returned

00:11:57.780 because of,

00:12:00.360 I believe,

00:12:01.080 clear evidence

00:12:01.700 demonstrating Comey

00:12:02.720 committed felonies.

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00:12:33.600 Senator,

00:12:36.480 I want to bring up

00:12:37.720 a point

00:12:38.320 that like

00:12:39.300 no one in the media

00:12:40.820 has brought up

00:12:41.700 so far

00:12:42.420 about this indictment.

00:12:44.740 And I brought it up

00:12:45.620 on CNN

00:12:46.100 and they were like

00:12:47.240 all deer in headlights.

00:12:49.300 There is something

00:12:50.220 about this case

00:12:51.440 and they were saying,

00:12:52.000 oh,

00:12:52.100 this is just political retribution

00:12:53.640 by Donald Trump

00:12:54.620 that clearly

00:12:56.120 they weren't going

00:12:57.220 to bring this case.

00:12:58.220 He had to fire

00:12:58.880 the person in charge

00:12:59.840 of this office

00:13:00.600 in Virginia,

00:13:01.460 had to put in somebody

00:13:02.680 that would weaponize 0.53

00:13:03.800 the DOJ.

00:13:05.660 Here's a fact

00:13:06.480 that most people

00:13:07.000 don't know.

00:13:08.480 James Comey's

00:13:10.040 own son-in-law

00:13:11.440 was literally

00:13:12.140 inside the prosecutor's

00:13:13.880 office

00:13:14.420 that was tasked,

00:13:17.000 just think about this,

00:13:18.100 with indicting

00:13:18.860 his father-in-law.

00:13:21.640 And so

00:13:22.080 when you sit there

00:13:23.100 and I look at this,

00:13:23.900 I'm like,

00:13:24.180 man,

00:13:24.460 the deep state

00:13:24.980 got together

00:13:25.620 to protect James Comey

00:13:26.800 at all costs.

00:13:27.820 And as soon as

00:13:28.820 the indictment came out

00:13:30.300 later in the day,

00:13:31.060 James Comey's

00:13:32.900 son-in-law

00:13:33.500 then gave his

00:13:34.700 resignation letter

00:13:35.880 because I guess

00:13:36.480 he just couldn't

00:13:37.080 stop what was

00:13:37.740 inevitable.

00:13:38.940 Well,

00:13:39.480 and look,

00:13:40.020 I think what should

00:13:40.640 govern this case

00:13:41.660 is the facts

00:13:43.100 and the law.

00:13:44.080 And I believe

00:13:45.200 James Comey

00:13:45.760 should have been

00:13:46.220 indicted five years ago.

00:13:48.380 And indeed,

00:13:48.860 I called upon him

00:13:49.820 to be indicted

00:13:50.440 five years ago.

00:13:51.260 So let me lay out

00:13:51.820 the facts.

00:13:52.460 And in December

00:13:53.260 of 2020,

00:13:54.540 so the questioning

00:13:55.400 that we played

00:13:56.160 in the first segment

00:13:57.220 was from September

00:13:58.500 30th of 2020.

00:13:59.580 And by the way,

00:14:00.300 the reason

00:14:00.900 the indictment

00:14:02.040 was brought right now

00:14:03.060 is the statute

00:14:03.620 of limitations

00:14:04.180 was going to run

00:14:05.040 next week.

00:14:05.740 And so they had

00:14:06.400 to bring it

00:14:06.880 before the end

00:14:07.460 of the statute

00:14:07.920 of limitations

00:14:08.520 or they would not

00:14:09.660 be able to charge him.

00:14:10.980 But on December

00:14:12.220 10th of 2020,

00:14:13.500 here's the letter

00:14:14.180 that I sent

00:14:14.940 to Bill Barr,

00:14:16.660 then the Attorney

00:14:17.160 General of the

00:14:17.780 United States,

00:14:19.120 and Christopher Wray,

00:14:20.520 who was then

00:14:21.160 the director

00:14:21.960 of the FBI.

00:14:24.320 Days before

00:14:25.100 the presidential

00:14:25.700 election in 2016,

00:14:27.740 a Wall Street

00:14:28.420 Journal article

00:14:29.140 quoted an anonymous

00:14:30.080 source confirming

00:14:31.020 the existence

00:14:31.720 of a probe

00:14:32.580 into Hillary Clinton's

00:14:34.140 use of a private

00:14:35.060 email server

00:14:35.920 while serving

00:14:36.920 as Secretary of State.

00:14:38.500 An investigation

00:14:39.400 that up to that point,

00:14:40.980 Mr. Comey

00:14:41.520 and the FBI

00:14:42.120 declined to confirm.

00:14:44.000 We now know

00:14:44.920 that this leak

00:14:46.100 was authorized

00:14:46.820 by then Deputy Director

00:14:48.840 of the FBI,

00:14:50.360 Andrew McCabe.

00:14:51.860 Mr. McCabe

00:14:52.580 initially told

00:14:53.340 FBI agents

00:14:54.140 under oath

00:14:54.720 that he did not

00:14:55.840 authorize the leak

00:14:56.780 and he did not

00:14:57.640 know who did.

00:14:59.340 But when confronted

00:15:00.280 later with contrary

00:15:01.540 evidence,

00:15:02.720 he confessed

00:15:03.320 both to knowing

00:15:04.160 about

00:15:04.560 and authorizing

00:15:06.680 the leak.

00:15:07.980 We do not know,

00:15:09.280 however,

00:15:10.160 whether

00:15:10.440 and to what extent

00:15:11.820 then FBI Director

00:15:13.100 Comey 0.99

00:15:13.540 was aware of

00:15:15.020 and authorized

00:15:15.600 this leak

00:15:16.300 after the fact.

00:15:17.880 Mr. McCabe

00:15:18.720 has repeatedly stated

00:15:20.000 that Mr. Comey

00:15:21.740 knew of

00:15:22.500 and effectively

00:15:23.160 authorized the leak

00:15:24.400 by approving it.

00:15:25.920 He told the Office

00:15:27.080 of Inspector General

00:15:28.140 that,

00:15:28.840 quote,

00:15:29.400 he and Comey

00:15:30.040 discussed the

00:15:30.960 October 30th

00:15:31.860 Wall Street Journal

00:15:32.540 article in person

00:15:33.520 on October 31st,

00:15:35.580 2016,

00:15:37.020 and that at that

00:15:38.740 meeting,

00:15:39.240 quote,

00:15:39.920 he told Comey

00:15:40.880 that he had

00:15:41.900 authorized

00:15:42.680 AD slash OPA

00:15:44.280 and special counsel

00:15:45.260 to disclose

00:15:46.560 the account

00:15:47.320 of the August 12th

00:15:48.320 call

00:15:48.620 and did not

00:15:49.980 say anything

00:15:51.020 in any way

00:15:51.760 to suggest

00:15:52.860 that it was

00:15:53.280 unauthorized.

00:15:54.880 According to

00:15:55.660 Mr. McCabe,

00:15:56.920 Mr. Comey,

00:15:57.700 quote,

00:15:58.320 did not react

00:15:59.160 negatively,

00:16:00.380 just kind of

00:16:01.040 accepted it,

00:16:02.180 and, quote,

00:16:02.980 thought it was

00:16:03.620 a good idea

00:16:04.860 that they presented

00:16:07.080 this information

00:16:07.940 to the media.

00:16:09.420 He again reiterated

00:16:10.880 Mr. Comey's

00:16:11.560 involvement

00:16:11.980 at a hearing

00:16:12.620 last month

00:16:13.360 at the Senate

00:16:14.140 Judiciary Committee.

00:16:15.740 I asked Mr. McCabe,

00:16:17.680 according to

00:16:18.200 The Washington Times,

00:16:19.940 April 18th,

00:16:20.820 2018,

00:16:22.580 Mr. McCabe

00:16:23.260 insisted that he

00:16:24.080 told his boss

00:16:24.780 that he had

00:16:25.280 authorized disclosure

00:16:26.440 about the

00:16:26.920 Clinton investigation,

00:16:28.240 but Mr. Comey

00:16:29.460 has denied

00:16:30.000 this claim,

00:16:31.060 and Mr. McCabe

00:16:32.300 told investigators

00:16:33.260 that Mr. Comey

00:16:34.120 knew he had

00:16:35.280 authorized disclosure

00:16:36.300 and agreed it

00:16:36.900 was a good idea.

00:16:38.520 Is that accurate?

00:16:40.640 Is that your

00:16:41.380 testimony to this

00:16:42.380 committee?

00:16:43.640 Mr. McCabe

00:16:44.440 replied,

00:16:45.380 that is my

00:16:46.780 recollection.

00:16:48.360 Mr. Comey,

00:16:49.240 however,

00:16:50.100 has sworn under

00:16:51.040 oath that he

00:16:51.900 has neither

00:16:52.440 authorized the leak

00:16:53.620 nor knew of

00:16:54.340 Mr. McCabe's

00:16:55.120 involvement.

00:16:56.500 At a May 2017

00:16:57.500 hearing before

00:16:58.360 the Senate

00:16:58.700 Judiciary Committee,

00:17:00.360 Senator Grassley

00:17:01.080 asked Mr. Comey,

00:17:03.220 have you ever

00:17:03.700 been an anonymous

00:17:04.420 source in news

00:17:05.680 reports about

00:17:06.380 matters relating

00:17:07.180 to the Trump

00:17:07.700 investigation

00:17:08.400 or the Clinton

00:17:09.540 investigation?

00:17:10.980 Mr. Comey

00:17:11.860 replied,

00:17:12.980 never.

00:17:14.640 Senator Grassley

00:17:15.760 then asked,

00:17:16.900 have you ever

00:17:17.480 authorized someone

00:17:18.560 else at the FBI

00:17:19.580 to be an

00:17:20.460 anonymous source

00:17:21.320 in news

00:17:21.820 reports about

00:17:22.440 the Trump

00:17:22.780 investigation

00:17:23.500 or the

00:17:24.460 Clinton

00:17:24.680 administration?

00:17:26.000 He testified,

00:17:27.720 no.

00:17:28.960 And this

00:17:29.640 October,

00:17:30.440 at a Senate

00:17:30.820 Judiciary

00:17:31.280 Committee

00:17:31.600 hearing,

00:17:32.760 Mr. Comey

00:17:33.280 testified in

00:17:34.020 response to

00:17:34.640 my questioning,

00:17:35.800 quote,

00:17:36.480 I stand by

00:17:37.660 the testimony

00:17:38.280 that you

00:17:38.800 summarized that

00:17:39.540 I gave in

00:17:40.120 May of

00:17:40.440 2017.

00:17:42.280 Mr. Comey's

00:17:43.200 denial in

00:17:44.020 front of the

00:17:44.460 Senate is

00:17:44.940 consistent with

00:17:45.800 his statement

00:17:46.280 to the OIG.

00:17:46.980 He told

00:17:48.500 the OIG

00:17:49.160 that,

00:17:49.880 quote,

00:17:50.520 he recalled

00:17:51.240 seeing this

00:17:51.900 article,

00:17:52.680 but he did

00:17:53.200 not know

00:17:53.820 how the

00:17:54.200 disclosure

00:17:54.720 about the

00:17:55.280 paydag call

00:17:56.100 in the

00:17:56.740 October 30

00:17:57.500 article

00:17:58.060 happened.

00:17:59.260 He said

00:17:59.980 that he

00:18:00.200 was,

00:18:00.740 quote,

00:18:00.780 very concerned

00:18:01.680 about that

00:18:02.460 part of

00:18:02.800 the article.

00:18:04.400 Comey 0.99

00:18:04.660 told OIG 0.55

00:18:05.480 he considered

00:18:06.220 the disclosure

00:18:06.920 about the

00:18:07.440 paydag's

00:18:07.960 call problematic

00:18:08.840 because it

00:18:10.080 related to

00:18:10.720 sensitive FBI

00:18:11.700 information.

00:18:13.080 The OIG

00:18:14.100 report

00:18:14.600 continues,

00:18:15.480 quote,

00:18:15.760 according to

00:18:17.100 Comey, 1.00

00:18:17.800 he discussed

00:18:18.560 the issue

00:18:18.980 with McCabe

00:18:19.560 after the

00:18:20.040 article was

00:18:20.520 published,

00:18:21.360 and at the

00:18:21.940 time,

00:18:22.900 McCabe,

00:18:23.600 quote,

00:18:24.440 definitely did

00:18:25.620 not tell me

00:18:26.440 that he

00:18:26.800 authorized the

00:18:27.800 disclosure of

00:18:28.560 the paydag

00:18:29.040 call.

00:18:30.460 Comey said

00:18:30.980 that McCabe

00:18:31.560 gave him

00:18:32.140 the exact

00:18:32.900 opposite

00:18:33.740 impression.

00:18:35.520 Mr. Comey

00:18:36.080 asserted that

00:18:36.660 he took

00:18:37.080 from whatever

00:18:37.620 communication

00:18:38.300 they had

00:18:38.860 that Mr.

00:18:39.340 McCabe

00:18:39.680 wasn't involved

00:18:40.460 in the

00:18:41.220 leak.

00:18:42.180 And here's

00:18:42.740 what's

00:18:42.940 critical.

00:18:43.240 Mr.

00:18:44.620 Comey 0.99

00:18:44.900 and Mr.

00:18:46.160 McCabe's

00:18:46.620 statements

00:18:46.960 are

00:18:47.480 irreconcilably

00:18:49.000 contradictory.

00:18:50.700 Mr.

00:18:50.980 McCabe

00:18:51.320 says that

00:18:51.820 he told

00:18:52.240 Mr.

00:18:52.640 Comey 0.99

00:18:52.860 of the

00:18:53.080 leak

00:18:53.340 and that

00:18:53.820 Mr.

00:18:54.140 Comey 0.99

00:18:54.380 approved,

00:18:55.440 effectively

00:18:56.020 authorizing

00:18:56.960 the leak

00:18:57.340 after the

00:18:57.800 fact.

00:18:58.900 Mr.

00:18:59.180 Comey, 1.00

00:18:59.480 on the

00:18:59.640 other hand,

00:19:00.580 has said

00:19:01.100 that he

00:19:01.360 neither

00:19:01.620 authorized

00:19:02.300 the leak

00:19:02.760 nor knew

00:19:03.360 of Mr.

00:19:03.980 McCabe's

00:19:04.460 involvement.

00:19:05.900 One of

00:19:06.480 them is

00:19:07.540 lying under

00:19:08.400 oath,

00:19:08.860 a federal

00:19:09.300 crime,

00:19:10.280 18 U.S.C.

00:19:11.260 Section 1621.

00:19:13.320 The

00:19:13.540 American

00:19:14.080 people

00:19:14.680 deserve

00:19:15.280 to know

00:19:16.260 who.

00:19:17.800 Those are

00:19:18.340 the facts,

00:19:19.220 and it

00:19:19.740 is a

00:19:20.040 simple

00:19:20.460 binary

00:19:21.520 choice.

00:19:23.000 Either

00:19:23.240 James

00:19:23.680 Comey 0.99

00:19:24.120 lied

00:19:25.000 under

00:19:25.260 oath

00:19:25.500 and

00:19:25.660 committed

00:19:25.900 a

00:19:26.100 felony,

00:19:26.740 or

00:19:27.320 Andrew

00:19:27.720 McCabe

00:19:28.260 lied

00:19:28.920 under

00:19:29.200 oath

00:19:29.460 or

00:19:29.620 committed

00:19:29.900 a

00:19:30.100 felony,

00:19:30.360 because

00:19:30.660 what

00:19:30.860 they

00:19:31.020 said

00:19:31.320 is

00:19:31.480 precisely

00:19:32.000 opposite.

00:19:32.760 There

00:19:32.840 is

00:19:32.980 not

00:19:33.200 a

00:19:33.320 world

00:19:33.580 in

00:19:33.760 which

00:19:33.960 neither

00:19:34.300 of

00:19:34.520 them

00:19:34.660 committed

00:19:34.940 a

00:19:35.120 felony,

00:19:35.400 and

00:19:36.200 the

00:19:36.320 only

00:19:36.540 choice

00:19:36.980 is

00:19:37.280 which

00:19:37.800 one

00:19:38.180 broke

00:19:38.640 the

00:19:38.860 law.

00:19:39.560 By

00:19:39.940 bringing

00:19:40.220 this

00:19:40.500 indictment,

00:19:41.000 obviously,

00:19:42.460 of

00:19:42.640 justice

00:19:42.940 has

00:19:43.160 determined

00:19:43.540 it

00:19:43.800 was

00:19:44.040 James

00:19:44.760 Comey 0.99

00:19:45.220 who

00:19:46.220 lied

00:19:46.720 under

00:19:47.080 oath

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00:19:47.580 broke

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00:21:34.880 All right,

00:21:35.180 Senator,

00:21:35.520 so here's

00:21:36.140 what I've

00:21:36.480 been hearing

00:21:37.180 online from

00:21:39.120 the media.

00:21:39.520 They're like,

00:21:39.940 hey,

00:21:40.380 Donald Trump

00:21:41.060 weighed in

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00:21:41.700 too much.

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00:21:46.840 American

00:21:47.120 taxpayers

00:21:47.640 dollars.

00:21:48.760 And then

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00:21:50.160 they say,

00:21:51.040 well,

00:21:51.380 no one

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00:21:53.120 and they

00:21:53.560 actually go

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00:21:54.860 get a

00:21:55.080 conviction on

00:21:55.640 someone lying

00:21:56.060 to Congress

00:21:56.540 because,

00:21:57.260 well,

00:21:57.360 a lot of

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00:21:58.560 and even

00:21:59.020 if you

00:21:59.240 did lie,

00:21:59.660 it may

00:21:59.820 have been

00:21:59.980 a mistake.

00:22:00.560 This is

00:22:00.720 going to

00:22:00.800 be very

00:22:01.320 hard to

00:22:01.700 get a

00:22:01.900 conviction.

00:22:03.260 Break down

00:22:03.940 how this

00:22:04.400 could roll

00:22:05.020 out in

00:22:05.480 court.

00:22:05.900 What

00:22:06.040 could

00:22:06.200 happen?

00:22:07.540 Well,

00:22:07.800 at the

00:22:08.220 end of

00:22:08.460 the day,

00:22:08.840 the factual

00:22:09.300 predicate

00:22:09.880 behind this

00:22:10.740 crime is

00:22:11.540 not terribly

00:22:12.320 complicated.

00:22:13.020 As I

00:22:13.320 mentioned,

00:22:13.820 there's a

00:22:14.120 direct

00:22:14.380 contradiction

00:22:15.020 between

00:22:15.640 James Comey's

00:22:16.840 testimony under

00:22:17.960 oath before

00:22:18.640 the Senate

00:22:19.060 and Andrew

00:22:20.240 McCabe's

00:22:20.800 testimony under

00:22:21.700 oath before

00:22:22.440 the Senate.

00:22:23.720 They cannot

00:22:24.560 both be

00:22:25.380 true.

00:22:25.880 One or

00:22:26.440 the other

00:22:26.900 is deliberately

00:22:27.860 lying.

00:22:29.060 And how do

00:22:29.600 we know

00:22:29.900 which one

00:22:30.460 is likely

00:22:30.920 to be

00:22:31.220 lying?

00:22:31.720 Well,

00:22:32.160 the FBI

00:22:32.720 in all

00:22:33.820 likelihood

00:22:34.280 possesses the

00:22:35.280 information

00:22:35.820 that confirms

00:22:36.600 who's telling

00:22:37.140 the truth

00:22:37.640 and who's

00:22:38.800 lying.

00:22:39.320 Indeed,

00:22:39.580 if you

00:22:39.820 look at

00:22:40.380 the

00:22:41.000 account

00:22:42.400 of what

00:22:42.800 occurred,

00:22:43.840 McCabe

00:22:44.240 initially

00:22:44.800 told the

00:22:45.560 same lie

00:22:46.240 that Comey 0.81

00:22:47.440 did.

00:22:47.860 McCabe

00:22:48.120 initially

00:22:48.540 said he

00:22:49.560 didn't

00:22:49.780 leak the

00:22:50.140 information,

00:22:51.160 he didn't

00:22:52.040 authorize it,

00:22:52.800 and he

00:22:53.000 didn't know

00:22:53.380 who did.

00:22:54.120 But then

00:22:54.840 the FBI

00:22:56.360 Office of

00:22:57.100 Inspector

00:22:57.560 General

00:22:58.000 confronted

00:22:58.700 him with

00:22:59.840 contrary

00:23:00.460 evidence.

00:23:01.060 I don't

00:23:01.220 know what

00:23:01.500 the contrary

00:23:01.960 evidence is,

00:23:02.700 but they

00:23:02.940 put in

00:23:03.340 front of

00:23:03.720 him,

00:23:04.480 Mr.

00:23:04.740 McCabe,

00:23:05.140 you said

00:23:05.460 you didn't

00:23:05.740 leak this

00:23:06.160 information.

00:23:06.900 Well,

00:23:07.220 boom,

00:23:08.000 here's the

00:23:08.460 evidence to

00:23:08.920 the contrary.

00:23:09.480 And what

00:23:09.640 did McCabe

00:23:10.080 do?

00:23:11.080 Oh, 0.99

00:23:11.360 crap, 1.00

00:23:11.660 you got 1.00

00:23:11.920 me.

00:23:12.160 Okay,

00:23:12.420 you're

00:23:12.560 right.

00:23:13.280 I leaked

00:23:13.940 it.

00:23:14.620 I'm the

00:23:15.060 one who

00:23:15.300 did it.

00:23:16.340 And I

00:23:17.220 talked to

00:23:17.620 Comey about

00:23:18.120 it.

00:23:18.500 I told him

00:23:19.060 about it.

00:23:19.460 So he

00:23:19.780 admitted that

00:23:20.620 when he

00:23:20.880 was caught

00:23:21.440 in a

00:23:21.660 lie.

00:23:22.580 I don't

00:23:23.320 know

00:23:23.640 specifically

00:23:24.440 what

00:23:25.900 confirming

00:23:27.500 evidence the

00:23:28.260 FBI and

00:23:28.860 the Department

00:23:29.260 of Justice

00:23:29.740 has,

00:23:30.280 but they

00:23:30.540 have enough

00:23:31.340 that they

00:23:32.280 caused

00:23:32.860 McCabe

00:23:33.480 to reverse

00:23:34.240 his first

00:23:34.800 lie and

00:23:36.160 instead to

00:23:36.800 say,

00:23:37.080 yes,

00:23:37.500 he did

00:23:37.900 it and

00:23:38.580 Comey 0.99

00:23:38.900 knew about

00:23:39.340 it.

00:23:40.220 And so

00:23:40.600 between the

00:23:41.320 two,

00:23:42.140 you know,

00:23:42.400 it was

00:23:42.560 interesting when

00:23:43.060 I was

00:23:43.360 questioning

00:23:43.820 Comey, 1.00

00:23:45.200 he said a

00:23:45.740 couple of

00:23:46.100 times,

00:23:46.440 well,

00:23:46.600 I'm not

00:23:47.200 going to

00:23:47.440 characterize,

00:23:47.940 as he

00:23:48.440 put it,

00:23:48.780 Andy's

00:23:49.140 testimony.

00:23:50.200 Well,

00:23:50.480 I get

00:23:50.820 politically

00:23:51.360 that's a

00:23:51.820 smart move

00:23:52.360 not to

00:23:52.720 characterize

00:23:53.140 Andy's

00:23:53.720 testimony.

00:23:54.580 But you

00:23:55.120 know what?

00:23:55.560 His entire

00:23:56.340 legal defense

00:23:57.180 is going to

00:23:57.640 be McCabe

00:23:58.380 is lying

00:23:58.860 because he

00:23:59.540 doesn't have

00:23:59.860 an alternative.

00:24:00.540 That's his

00:24:01.100 only argument

00:24:01.720 is when

00:24:02.780 McCabe said

00:24:03.640 under oath

00:24:04.300 that I

00:24:05.940 knew about

00:24:06.400 it,

00:24:07.980 Comey's

00:24:08.300 defense team

00:24:08.860 is going to

00:24:09.200 have to

00:24:09.540 say McCabe

00:24:10.400 was lying.

00:24:11.020 And by the

00:24:11.280 way,

00:24:11.440 McCabe is going

00:24:11.980 to be the

00:24:12.240 star witness

00:24:12.820 at the

00:24:13.860 prosecution.

00:24:15.240 The prosecution

00:24:16.160 is going to

00:24:16.720 put Andy

00:24:17.140 McCabe

00:24:17.500 on the

00:24:18.460 stand.

00:24:19.460 And he's

00:24:20.120 going to

00:24:20.360 ask them,

00:24:21.500 did you

00:24:22.500 leak it?

00:24:23.340 Now,

00:24:24.000 I'm going to

00:24:24.440 predict Andy

00:24:25.020 McCabe is

00:24:25.420 going to

00:24:25.720 say yes.

00:24:27.660 Did you

00:24:28.300 talk to

00:24:28.720 James Comey

00:24:29.300 about it?

00:24:30.040 Yes.

00:24:30.780 Did he

00:24:31.160 authorize it?

00:24:32.300 Yes.

00:24:33.080 And the

00:24:33.560 reason I'm

00:24:34.000 going to

00:24:34.160 predict he's

00:24:34.560 going to

00:24:34.720 do all

00:24:35.040 of that

00:24:35.360 is because

00:24:35.760 Andy

00:24:36.000 McCabe

00:24:36.300 testified

00:24:36.900 to that

00:24:37.700 in front

00:24:38.540 of Congress.

00:24:39.760 And if

00:24:40.120 he gives

00:24:40.400 any other

00:24:40.820 answer,

00:24:42.020 he'll be

00:24:42.520 indicted

00:24:42.900 for

00:24:43.120 lying

00:24:43.360 to

00:24:43.520 Congress.

00:24:44.620 So he

00:24:45.480 can't

00:24:45.940 have it

00:24:46.160 both

00:24:46.360 ways.

00:24:47.460 And I

00:24:48.660 expect that

00:24:49.640 Comey's

00:24:50.540 lawyer will

00:24:51.260 try to

00:24:51.580 cross-examine

00:24:52.240 him and

00:24:52.540 will try

00:24:53.020 to argue

00:24:53.700 McCabe

00:24:54.840 is lying.

00:24:55.460 But it's

00:24:55.680 very difficult

00:24:56.280 to see why

00:24:56.960 McCabe would

00:24:57.520 have any

00:24:58.000 incentive

00:24:58.380 to lie.

00:24:59.780 He and

00:25:00.260 Comey were 0.96

00:25:00.780 thick as 0.98

00:25:01.300 thieves. 0.99

00:25:02.240 He was

00:25:03.020 only forced

00:25:04.000 to admit

00:25:04.520 the truth

00:25:05.200 when

00:25:06.560 confronted

00:25:07.240 with

00:25:07.720 contrary

00:25:08.240 evidence.

00:25:08.680 Again,

00:25:08.880 we don't

00:25:09.160 know what

00:25:09.540 that evidence

00:25:10.060 is,

00:25:10.760 but presumably

00:25:11.540 the FBI

00:25:12.240 and the

00:25:12.520 Department

00:25:12.820 of Justice

00:25:13.360 do.

00:25:13.980 So I

00:25:14.240 don't

00:25:14.360 know if

00:25:14.740 it is

00:25:15.200 contemporaneous

00:25:16.520 phone calls,

00:25:17.420 perhaps with

00:25:17.920 the reporters.

00:25:18.440 I don't

00:25:18.860 know if

00:25:19.240 it is

00:25:19.540 notes.

00:25:20.080 I don't

00:25:20.240 know if

00:25:20.460 it's

00:25:20.660 emails.

00:25:21.700 I don't

00:25:21.920 know if

00:25:22.120 it's

00:25:22.320 testimony

00:25:22.760 from

00:25:23.160 someone else

00:25:23.680 at the

00:25:23.940 FBI who

00:25:24.600 said,

00:25:24.900 hey,

00:25:25.540 Andrew

00:25:25.800 McCabe

00:25:26.200 told me

00:25:26.720 to do

00:25:27.000 this.

00:25:27.300 But it

00:25:27.580 is

00:25:27.800 something,

00:25:29.480 and it

00:25:29.840 was something

00:25:30.440 that was

00:25:30.940 compelling

00:25:31.420 enough that

00:25:32.840 it caused

00:25:33.700 Andrew

00:25:34.120 McCabe to

00:25:34.800 abandon

00:25:35.440 lie number

00:25:36.240 one.

00:25:36.580 And so

00:25:38.100 at the

00:25:38.780 end of

00:25:39.020 the day,

00:25:39.560 this is

00:25:40.100 not a

00:25:40.800 complicated

00:25:41.380 factual

00:25:42.000 case.

00:25:42.560 This is

00:25:42.880 not some

00:25:43.880 grand

00:25:44.320 tapestry.

00:25:45.600 It's a

00:25:45.880 he said,

00:25:46.420 she said,

00:25:48.240 but you

00:25:50.240 have both

00:25:51.400 testimonies under

00:25:52.380 oath,

00:25:52.740 and it's

00:25:53.200 going to be a

00:25:53.580 question of

00:25:54.180 what additional

00:25:54.820 evidence is

00:25:55.580 there to

00:25:56.160 confirm who's

00:25:56.740 telling the

00:25:57.120 truth and

00:25:57.480 who's not.

00:25:57.980 I also

00:25:58.980 think I

00:25:59.500 will be

00:25:59.980 surprised if

00:26:02.660 James Comey's

00:26:03.540 lawyer puts

00:26:04.280 him on the

00:26:04.900 stand.

00:26:05.720 Now,

00:26:06.440 under our

00:26:07.200 justice system,

00:26:08.280 the prosecution

00:26:09.040 cannot force

00:26:10.460 a defendant

00:26:11.820 to testify.

00:26:13.480 But I'm

00:26:13.960 going to

00:26:14.180 predict James

00:26:14.880 Comey is not

00:26:15.500 going to take

00:26:15.860 the stand,

00:26:16.700 because if he

00:26:17.800 takes the

00:26:18.260 stand,

00:26:19.340 he can be

00:26:20.100 cross-examined.

00:26:20.960 He does not

00:26:21.720 want to be

00:26:22.360 cross-examined,

00:26:23.260 because this

00:26:23.860 is someone

00:26:24.460 who presided

00:26:27.060 over

00:26:27.500 weaponizing

00:26:28.560 the Department

00:26:29.160 of Justice

00:26:29.720 with the

00:26:30.160 objective of

00:26:30.900 taking out

00:26:31.640 Donald J.

00:26:32.360 Trump and

00:26:33.780 getting under

00:26:34.520 oath,

00:26:34.900 getting cross-examined

00:26:36.080 by a skilled

00:26:36.820 trial attorney,

00:26:37.700 and again,

00:26:38.160 under oath.

00:26:38.600 By the way,

00:26:39.400 if he lies in

00:26:40.260 his trial

00:26:40.620 testimony,

00:26:41.260 he can be

00:26:41.660 indicted and

00:26:42.200 prosecuted again

00:26:43.100 for lying under

00:26:43.840 oath again.

00:26:45.060 I don't think

00:26:45.880 his lawyer will

00:26:46.500 do that,

00:26:47.200 and so at

00:26:49.260 the end of

00:26:49.740 the day,

00:26:50.300 look, the

00:26:50.620 press is going

00:26:51.160 to go on

00:26:51.580 and on and

00:26:52.100 say, well,

00:26:52.960 Trump hates

00:26:53.560 James Comey.

00:26:54.260 That is

00:26:54.540 certainly true.

00:26:55.840 But being

00:26:56.780 hated by the

00:26:57.540 president is

00:26:58.200 not enough to

00:26:58.860 exonerate you

00:26:59.780 from criminal

00:27:00.340 conduct, and

00:27:01.040 in this

00:27:01.380 instance, I

00:27:03.520 believe Comey

00:27:04.200 should have been

00:27:04.600 indicted five

00:27:05.260 years ago because

00:27:06.080 it was clear he

00:27:07.680 had deliberately

00:27:08.680 lied to Congress,

00:27:09.840 and look, we

00:27:10.680 started by playing

00:27:12.340 my cross-examination.

00:27:13.700 This wasn't an

00:27:14.820 absent-minded lie.

00:27:16.980 This wasn't a,

00:27:17.840 oh, I'm not

00:27:18.240 paying attention.

00:27:19.480 This was careful.

00:27:20.880 This was deliberate.

00:27:22.280 This was strategic.

00:27:23.500 This was planned.

00:27:24.440 I believe this

00:27:25.620 was James Comey

00:27:26.420 saying, I face

00:27:27.440 no accountability

00:27:28.240 whatsoever.

00:27:29.220 I can lie under

00:27:30.140 oath, and no

00:27:31.300 one's going to

00:27:31.800 hold me to

00:27:32.320 account, and I

00:27:33.060 think he feels

00:27:33.760 clever, but he

00:27:36.200 also feels

00:27:37.020 vindicated.

00:27:37.780 Listen, James

00:27:38.320 Comey was

00:27:38.840 someone who I

00:27:40.940 think fancied

00:27:41.940 himself as J.

00:27:42.880 Edgar Hoover.

00:27:43.920 He fancied

00:27:44.820 himself as an

00:27:46.840 incredibly powerful

00:27:48.380 director of the

00:27:49.200 FBI, empowered

00:27:51.080 to remove the

00:27:53.500 tyrant.

00:27:53.980 That's what he

00:27:54.360 said in his

00:27:54.840 statement tonight,

00:27:56.480 that he thinks

00:27:57.620 Trump is a

00:27:58.220 tyrant, and I 1.00

00:27:58.940 think when the

00:27:59.460 American people

00:28:00.160 elected him in

00:28:01.020 2016, I think

00:28:02.100 Comey was angry,

00:28:03.620 and he decided he

00:28:05.360 would use the

00:28:06.100 power of the

00:28:06.660 FBI to remove

00:28:07.760 the president

00:28:08.420 elected by the

00:28:09.200 people, and so

00:28:11.160 I think it is

00:28:11.780 quite fitting that

00:28:13.200 he is facing

00:28:13.860 accountability for

00:28:15.280 committing criminal

00:28:16.000 conduct.

00:28:16.760 Let me repeat,

00:28:18.200 this indictment is

00:28:20.260 not for being an

00:28:21.260 opponent of

00:28:21.780 Donald Trump.

00:28:22.360 It is not for

00:28:23.100 being a political

00:28:23.880 figure on the

00:28:27.220 other side of

00:28:27.780 Donald Trump.

00:28:28.460 This indictment is

00:28:30.300 for deliberately and

00:28:31.580 knowingly lying under

00:28:32.880 oath to the United

00:28:33.860 States Senate, which

00:28:34.840 is a clear and

00:28:35.640 unmistakable felony,

00:28:37.380 and I think Comey,

00:28:40.320 I think the odds are

00:28:41.440 good that Comey will

00:28:42.960 be convicted, and I

00:28:44.800 think if he's

00:28:45.520 convicted, I think he's

00:28:46.640 going to serve jail

00:28:47.220 time.

00:28:47.940 How much of, very

00:28:49.500 quickly, of his past,

00:28:51.100 we'll come back to

00:28:51.640 Haunted, he is a

00:28:52.620 prolific guy when it

00:28:54.940 comes to leaking.

00:28:55.640 He's a pro at it.

00:28:56.540 He's not an amateur.

00:28:57.320 He knows how to

00:28:57.920 leak.

00:28:58.500 Hell, he leaked

00:28:59.060 information that was

00:28:59.880 apparently classified

00:29:00.720 to make sure that

00:29:01.960 there was a special

00:29:04.260 counsel that went

00:29:04.960 after Donald Trump.

00:29:05.900 We know that for a

00:29:06.740 fact, and it went to

00:29:08.020 one of his former

00:29:08.880 law friends at a

00:29:10.060 university that then

00:29:10.900 went to a newspaper.

00:29:12.280 That is a fact.

00:29:13.580 Will that come up?

00:29:14.500 And then the other

00:29:15.000 question I have for you

00:29:15.760 quickly is this.

00:29:17.040 Will the testimony he

00:29:18.480 gave before Congress be

00:29:19.720 used in court?

00:29:20.600 Or literally, will

00:29:21.440 senators that

00:29:22.380 interviewed him, would

00:29:23.760 you guys go to court,

00:29:24.680 or would they just use

00:29:25.440 the testimony video?

00:29:27.140 Yeah, I think they

00:29:27.740 would use the

00:29:28.300 testimony.

00:29:28.920 They would read or

00:29:29.560 play the testimony.

00:29:30.560 I don't think you're

00:29:31.300 going to see senators

00:29:32.280 testifying.

00:29:33.180 And the record is clear

00:29:35.080 and objective, and so

00:29:36.160 everyone knows exactly

00:29:37.240 what his testimony was.

00:29:39.580 In terms of his past

00:29:41.080 pattern, I think it

00:29:41.960 could certainly come in.

00:29:43.440 The prosecution might

00:29:44.780 try to bring it in to

00:29:46.400 establish a pattern.

00:29:47.340 That would be

00:29:47.940 difficult, but I

00:29:49.060 think if Comey's

00:29:49.980 lawyer argues, well,

00:29:51.420 he couldn't possibly

00:29:52.480 have approved this, he

00:29:53.580 never would have

00:29:54.160 approved a leak, then

00:29:56.000 I think the prosecution

00:29:57.080 would be able to get

00:29:58.060 all of that in as

00:29:58.980 rebuttal to the

00:30:01.080 defendant's argument.

00:30:01.980 So I think it's more

00:30:02.760 likely to come in as

00:30:03.660 rebuttal evidence than

00:30:04.780 directly proving a

00:30:06.820 pattern, but my guess

00:30:08.260 is one way or another

00:30:10.260 that evidence is going

00:30:11.080 to come in, and you're

00:30:11.720 right, there's a clear

00:30:12.420 pattern.

00:30:12.900 Comey has a long

00:30:13.720 pattern of relying on

00:30:14.880 media leaks to advance

00:30:16.160 his own personal agenda.

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00:31:52.120 Senator, you were in

00:31:53.160 Dallas when this

00:31:54.080 shooting happened.

00:31:55.100 It was eight hours

00:31:56.580 after we watched

00:31:58.100 Gavin Newsom go on

00:32:00.500 late night TV demonizing

00:32:03.120 ICE agents, saying that

00:32:04.740 they're authoritarian,

00:32:06.040 and then the liberals

00:32:06.900 are like, wait, wait,

00:32:07.800 we're not attacking ICE

00:32:09.600 agents.

00:32:10.400 Yes, they are.

00:32:11.240 They've undermined

00:32:12.060 them, they've demonized

00:32:13.040 them, and we are

00:32:13.600 watching attack after

00:32:14.740 attack happen against

00:32:15.900 ICE agents.

00:32:16.780 It's horrific.

00:32:18.080 Yeah, I was in Dallas

00:32:19.900 this week for a series

00:32:22.720 of unrelated meetings,

00:32:23.820 and the news broke that

00:32:25.540 this deranged gunman had

00:32:27.440 opened fire on an ICE

00:32:28.700 facility in Dallas, that

00:32:30.020 he had gone onto a

00:32:31.200 rooftop emulating

00:32:32.580 Charlie Kirk's assassin,

00:32:34.360 and with a bolt-action

00:32:35.740 rifle, fired multiple

00:32:37.840 rounds, ended up

00:32:39.260 killing two people

00:32:40.500 severely, injuring a

00:32:41.600 third, and then he

00:32:42.620 took the gun to

00:32:43.280 himself and took his

00:32:44.460 own life, and it was

00:32:46.200 horrific when the news

00:32:47.260 broke.

00:32:47.840 I canceled my morning

00:32:49.060 meeting and just drove

00:32:50.100 over to the ICE

00:32:50.720 facility that morning,

00:32:52.580 was there shortly after

00:32:55.180 the shooting had

00:32:55.840 occurred, and this has

00:32:57.680 happened far too often.

00:32:59.860 Here's what I had to

00:33:00.960 say at the press

00:33:02.760 conference that was

00:33:03.560 ongoing when I arrived

00:33:04.600 at the facility.

00:33:06.760 This needs to stop.

00:33:09.760 Violence is wrong.

00:33:12.080 Politically motivated

00:33:13.080 violence is wrong.

00:33:15.920 It was two weeks ago

00:33:16.940 today that we saw a

00:33:18.240 political assassination

00:33:19.200 in Utah that tore the

00:33:22.780 heart out of much of

00:33:23.680 this country.

00:33:25.280 This is the third

00:33:26.720 shooting in Texas

00:33:28.200 directed at ICE or CBP.

00:33:30.940 This must stop.

00:33:35.480 To every politician who

00:33:38.600 is using rhetoric,

00:33:40.160 demonizing ICE and

00:33:41.700 demonizing CBP, stop.

00:33:45.100 To every politician

00:33:47.000 demanding that ICE agents

00:33:48.740 be doxed and calling for

00:33:51.000 people to go after their

00:33:52.200 families, stop.

00:33:53.700 This has very real

00:33:56.340 consequences.

00:33:57.680 Look, in America we

00:33:58.700 disagree, that's fine,

00:34:00.020 that's the democratic

00:34:00.900 process, but your

00:34:02.280 political opponents are

00:34:04.360 not Nazis.

00:34:06.720 We need to learn to work

00:34:08.400 together without demonizing

00:34:10.140 each other, without

00:34:11.240 attacking each other, and

00:34:12.880 I want to say thank you.

00:34:14.240 I want to say thank you to

00:34:16.040 the brave men and women of

00:34:17.180 law enforcement.

00:34:18.020 I want to say thank you to

00:34:19.500 the brave men and women of

00:34:20.620 ICE and CBP and everyone

00:34:23.060 who puts their lives on

00:34:24.560 the line to keep us safe.

00:34:29.480 The divisive rhetoric

00:34:30.880 tragically has real

00:34:32.140 consequences.

00:34:34.500 I hope that every one of

00:34:36.060 us will, I hope that

00:34:37.440 every one of us will pray

00:34:39.220 number one, for the safety

00:34:42.020 of law enforcement that are

00:34:44.240 risking their lives to keep

00:34:45.480 us safe.

00:34:46.420 Number two, for the health

00:34:49.300 of those who were shot and

00:34:50.720 injured today, we still

00:34:52.120 don't know the full details

00:34:53.580 of who was injured, but for

00:34:55.500 the families also of the

00:34:56.880 victims of this shooting.

00:34:58.560 Violence has no place, it is

00:35:01.120 wrong, and we should come

00:35:04.000 together, if we want to have

00:35:05.260 a debate about immigration

00:35:06.360 policies, we can do so in the

00:35:08.740 halls of Congress without

00:35:10.160 demonizing each other, and

00:35:12.020 especially without demonizing

00:35:14.060 the men and women who every day

00:35:16.300 put on a badge and go risk

00:35:18.260 their lives to keep us safe.

00:35:20.600 And we should not be putting

00:35:23.020 language out there that inspires

00:35:26.140 madmen to commit evil crimes.

00:35:30.400 Our prayers are with the men and

00:35:31.920 women of law enforcement, and we

00:35:33.720 ought to come together and have

00:35:35.120 some decency across the

00:35:36.900 political aisle to say this

00:35:39.840 violence is wrong and it needs to

00:35:41.940 stop.

00:35:42.220 We know, Senator, a lot about

00:35:44.920 this gunman.

00:35:46.420 We know that he was

00:35:47.920 Googling the shooting of our

00:35:50.960 friend whose funeral we just

00:35:52.540 went to, Charlie Kirk.

00:35:54.300 We know that he was looking at the

00:35:56.720 app that they put out there and

00:35:59.160 these websites where you can

00:36:00.680 track ICE agents, doxing where

00:36:03.880 they are.

00:36:04.400 That is an app designed to

00:36:07.420 encourage violence against ICE

00:36:09.420 agents and law enforcement, and

00:36:11.380 whether it's Gavin Newsom or

00:36:12.740 Akeem Jeffries or any other 0.91

00:36:15.300 Democrat who is encouraging 0.67

00:36:17.300 this targeting of ICE agents, it

00:36:20.460 is fundamentally wrong and that

00:36:22.180 they need to stand up and stop

00:36:23.660 it.

00:36:24.300 You know, I will say this

00:36:25.360 shooter, it's the news has since

00:36:28.400 come out, this shooter, his

00:36:29.700 mother was a hard leftist who 0.91

00:36:31.780 actually had been vocally

00:36:32.740 critical of me and other Texas

00:36:35.300 Republicans for not embracing

00:36:37.000 gun control, and in fact, in May

00:36:38.740 of 2022, she posted the

00:36:40.900 following.

00:36:41.980 Governor Abbott, Senator Cornyn,

00:36:43.480 and Senator Cruz, how does it

00:36:44.840 feel that your action to open up

00:36:47.440 gun laws is responsible for the 1.00

00:36:49.120 killing of 21 more people?

00:36:50.960 Do you secretly sit in front of a 0.99

00:36:52.560 TV and smile with a demented

00:36:54.080 smile?

00:36:55.040 You must be proud of all the

00:36:56.580 money that sits in your bank

00:36:57.680 accounts from the gun lobby

00:36:58.880 support.

00:36:59.800 Was it worth it, Governor Abbott?

00:37:01.600 How about you, Senator?

00:37:03.320 When you prioritize money over

00:37:05.180 people, this is what you get.

00:37:06.940 And I will say the irony is

00:37:09.460 rich that this leftist mom who 1.00

00:37:11.760 was championing gun control, now

00:37:14.400 her son has committed a mass

00:37:16.280 murder as a sniper.

00:37:18.480 It is tragic, and it is a

00:37:20.260 consequence of extreme rhetoric,

00:37:23.900 extreme ideology that is poisoning

00:37:26.180 the minds of those who are driven

00:37:30.380 to violence.

00:37:30.880 And I will say this assassin wrote

00:37:34.980 on his shell casings anti-ice, very

00:37:38.440 much emulating what Charlie Kirk's

00:37:40.900 murderer did, writing pro-antifa and

00:37:43.940 pro-transgender propaganda on his

00:37:46.620 shell casings.

00:37:47.480 And we need to stop this violence

00:37:50.760 regardless of where your politics

00:37:52.800 are, but we need to stop the rhetoric

00:37:54.480 that is fueling this violence.

00:37:56.500 And there's a lot of Democrat

00:37:57.960 politicians engaging in this rhetoric,

00:38:00.300 no matter how many lives are lost.

00:38:02.240 And I want to be clear, I am not calling

00:38:05.020 them Nazis. 0.81

00:38:06.120 I am absolutely opposing any violence

00:38:09.700 or calls to violence.

00:38:11.100 I'm calling on them to tone down their

00:38:13.900 rhetoric and stop demonizing their

00:38:15.800 opponent, stop demonizing ICE, stop

00:38:18.460 demonizing law enforcement, because

00:38:20.820 it's dangerous and tragically lunatics

00:38:23.280 are acting on the rhetoric they're

00:38:25.080 hearing from these politicians.

00:38:26.920 No doubt about it.

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - September 26, 2025

Comey Indicted for Lying under Oath in response to my Questioning plus Sniper Targets Dallas ICE Facility

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