Verdict with Ted Cruz - May 15, 2023


Border Chaos： LIVE from the Border...14 Minutes after Title 42 Expires-with Border Patrol Union President Brandon Judd


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Brandon Judd is the President of the National Border Patrol Council, the union representing the men and women of the Border Patrol. He was on the Biden Transition Team before they even got into office and warned them about the situation on the southern border.

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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:05.380 Welcome.
00:00:06.100 It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.
00:00:08.440 We are doing this podcast after midnight.
00:00:13.360 Senator, you're at the border.
00:00:15.320 You are there where Title 42 has literally just expired.
00:00:21.920 What does this mean for the country, and what have you seen today?
00:00:25.820 Well, Ben, you and I are recording this.
00:00:27.900 It is right now 12.14 a.m. Friday morning.
00:00:32.500 Title 42 expired at midnight.
00:00:35.780 So for 14 minutes, the last legal authority the Biden administration was using to deport illegal aliens is no longer in effect.
00:00:46.400 From the first day of the Biden presidency until today, we've seen over six and a half million people cross into this country.
00:00:54.500 The worst illegal immigration in the history of our country. 1.00
00:00:58.500 As of right now, it is about to get much, much worse.
00:01:05.240 And so I flew down this afternoon, Thursday afternoon, and came to the southern border with with three other senators, with Roger Marshall, with John Hoven and Ted Budd.
00:01:17.520 And the four of us wanted to see firsthand what is happening here.
00:01:21.620 We wanted to be here for the expiration of Title 42 to let the American people know what is happening and that the Biden administration wants this absolute catastrophe to unfold.
00:01:34.820 It is truly shocking to watch the images that so many Americans saw and will see over the weekend of the drone footage, if you've been watching Fox News Channel, of tens of thousands of people waiting to come across the border.
00:01:51.600 And there was a warning that was given advice that was given, not only to the Biden administration by Border Patrol, but we actually have a guest with us tonight that warned the Biden administration that this was going to happen.
00:02:06.920 And the Biden transition team clearly said, no, no, no, we don't care about the chaos and the anarchy.
00:02:13.500 We want this by design.
00:02:14.900 Well, that's exactly right.
00:02:17.440 And so tonight, Ben, you and I are joined by someone who has become a very good friend of mine, Brandon Judd.
00:02:22.960 Brandon is the president of the National Border Patrol Council.
00:02:26.280 That is the union, the national union for the men and women of the Border Patrol all across this country.
00:02:31.860 And I have spent hundreds of hours with Brandon and with the heroes of the Border Patrol.
00:02:38.620 I've been blessed to go out with them repeatedly on midnight patrol down down on the border.
00:02:44.100 I've been been with them at midnight muster.
00:02:47.560 I've been with them as they're processing this deluge of illegal immigrants. 1.00
00:02:52.440 I've been with them to encourage those heroes while they have political superiors who undermine them, who belittle them, who insult them and who deliberately prevent them from doing their jobs.
00:03:05.160 And I have to say it is a miracle that they continue to show up to work every day to protect this country, even while facing a president and an administration that is doing everything it can to make it impossible for them to succeed at their task.
00:03:21.160 Brandon, I've got to ask you about the warning and the advice that you gave to the Biden administration.
00:03:29.780 You gave advice.
00:03:31.620 You told the Biden transition team before even Biden took office what they need to do to keep a secure border.
00:03:39.120 You represent, obviously, as the president of the National Border Patrol Council, Border Patrol agents who right now, God bless all of you for what you do, because I can't imagine going to work every day knowing that the administration is working against you the way that they are right now.
00:03:55.060 But what did you tell them and you knew this day would come and this hour would come and this moment would come if they did and put in place the policies that they have now put on all of us?
00:04:07.320 Not just once.
00:04:08.300 I sat down with the transition team three separate times to discuss the issues that we face on the border, to discuss what could be done to to keep the American people safe.
00:04:19.040 And that's what border security is all about.
00:04:20.740 We've got to keep the American people safe.
00:04:21.880 Here, Brandon, this was not just the Trump transition team, although you sat down with them as well.
00:04:26.380 I did.
00:04:26.580 I was on the Trump transition team.
00:04:28.220 You were on the Trump transition team.
00:04:29.560 But when Joe Biden came in, you sat down with them.
00:04:32.160 I did.
00:04:32.520 And you tried to help them not have this disaster.
00:04:36.340 I did the best that I could.
00:04:38.680 I didn't vote for Joe Biden.
00:04:40.080 I don't like Joe Biden.
00:04:41.020 I didn't like him as a senator.
00:04:42.300 I didn't like him as the vice president.
00:04:43.800 But I did want him to succeed as the president of the United States because if he succeeds, the American people succeed.
00:04:48.560 That's all I cared about.
00:04:49.620 And so I sat down with the transition team.
00:04:51.180 I sat down with them three separate times, and we went over in depth what needs to be done on the border to secure the border.
00:04:58.720 And we even stayed within the parameters that Biden gave on the campaign trail.
00:05:04.440 It's not like we offered them up radical ideas.
00:05:07.460 It's not like we were telling them, stick with the Trump policies, although I would have loved to have stuck with those policies.
00:05:12.380 We worked within their parameters, and they still rejected it, which clearly showed to me that they didn't care about securing the border.
00:05:19.200 They didn't care about the American people who they're supposed to be protecting.
00:05:23.240 And so it was really disgusting to me.
00:05:26.020 And not only did I sit down with the transition team, I actually spoke with Secretary Mayorkas prior to his confirmation and discussed the issues with him as well.
00:05:35.260 And so when you look at this, it's not like they can claim that they didn't know.
00:05:41.380 It's not like they can say, we didn't know what we needed to do.
00:05:44.360 They know exactly what they need to do.
00:05:48.400 They knew what they needed to do.
00:05:49.940 And so you have to ask yourself, are they doing this on purpose?
00:05:53.400 And I think that the only answer is yes, they are.
00:05:55.400 They are doing this on purpose.
00:05:56.660 They are pandering to open-border activists.
00:05:59.120 Look at the West Wing.
00:06:00.420 Look at the West Wing.
00:06:01.840 All of the political appointees in the West Wing, they come from activist backgrounds.
00:06:06.180 Look at the political appointees in DHS.
00:06:09.120 They come from activist backgrounds.
00:06:10.900 So now you have activists that are running legitimate law enforcement agencies.
00:06:15.820 Well, Brandon, you were with me when I brought down 19 senators to the border.
00:06:21.600 And we went in to the Biden cages, to the tent city at Donna.
00:06:25.880 And there, the Biden administration refused to let TV cameras in.
00:06:30.700 They refused to let Fox News in.
00:06:32.200 They refused to let ABC News in because they said that the cameraman might have COVID.
00:06:38.500 Now, mind you, these Biden cages were packed wall to wall.
00:06:43.780 And as you'll recall, and Brandon, you'll recall well because you were standing there, I pulled out my cell phone.
00:06:48.560 And I began taking pictures and recording it.
00:06:50.640 And the Biden DHS had sent they'd sent this little political operative who jumped in front of the camera and tried to block me.
00:06:58.700 And she was she was the right hand to to to to to the head of CBP.
00:07:05.700 And her job was prevent the American people from seeing the disaster they were creating.
00:07:11.840 And so, you know, I kind of laughed and said, well, you're about to make yourself famous.
00:07:16.820 And I think that that video that I took on my cell phone because they wouldn't let news cameras in.
00:07:21.680 It ran on just about every news station.
00:07:23.740 It did.
00:07:24.300 It did.
00:07:24.800 And it showed and at one point she was yelling at me, respect these people, respect these dignity, their dignity.
00:07:31.880 And I said, you respect these people.
00:07:33.920 You're the one that have locked them up in cages like animals and you leave.
00:07:38.560 They were stacked.
00:07:40.520 You saw children shoulder to shoulder lying on the floor on mats with with with silver reflective blankets.
00:07:47.020 There was a rate of covid positivity among the kids that was through the roof and the Biden policies kept having thousands upon thousands and ultimately millions of people coming as a federal employee, as a border patrol agent.
00:08:02.240 That was one of the funniest things I had ever seen in my career.
00:08:06.100 It was it was absolutely great to see this little political appointee, this little activist just absolutely lose her mind. 1.00
00:08:13.040 And that goes back to the problem that we're dealing with this with this administration.
00:08:17.760 We all want to have an honest conversation when I say we all want to.
00:08:21.960 The honest people want to have a conversation so the American people understand what's going on.
00:08:26.500 I don't care if the American people agree with me.
00:08:28.740 I don't care if they if they come back and say that, you know, I'm wrong.
00:08:32.560 All I want is I want them to have all of the information.
00:08:36.700 I want them to be able to make an informed opinion upon all of the evidence, not just the rhetoric that comes out of the White House.
00:08:43.780 And if we have that honest conversation, I am absolutely convinced that the American people will agree that the border needs to be secured.
00:08:50.740 And I am absolutely convinced that they will blame what is currently going on on the border on this administration and that they will know that this administration is actually killing American citizens.
00:09:02.220 Fentanyl poisoning is taking place. Seventy thousand U.S. citizens are losing their lives every year to fentanyl poisoning.
00:09:09.640 And it's all because the Biden administration does not allow us to go after the cartels.
00:09:14.120 They're enriching the cartels.
00:09:16.540 Brandon, how frustrated are Border Patrol agents right now?
00:09:19.120 Give me the real sentiment of the men and women on the front.
00:09:22.700 We're sick of him. We're sick of him.
00:09:24.540 He's got to go. As far as we're concerned, he has got to go.
00:09:29.060 And we're absolutely demoralized.
00:09:31.140 I believe that every hardworking person in this country, they want to feel like their job means something.
00:09:38.140 They want to feel like they have accomplished something.
00:09:40.900 They want to go home every day thinking that I did a good job.
00:09:44.720 Border Patrol agents cannot do that right now.
00:09:47.260 We know that every single time we put on a uniform that we're not doing anything.
00:09:52.160 All we're doing is actually aiding and abetting these criminal cartels with facilitating the transport of illegal aliens throughout the entire United States.
00:10:01.620 The fentanyl that's coming in.
00:10:03.020 We want to go after these cartels.
00:10:05.160 We want to go after their profits.
00:10:06.460 We want to stop sex trafficking.
00:10:08.740 We want to save migrants' lives.
00:10:11.400 And this administration won't let us.
00:10:13.720 Brandon, I want to ask you a question about national security and the safety and what's coming across the border that the media doesn't want to cover.
00:10:23.380 That includes what you mentioned, obviously, with fentanyl.
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00:11:56.840 Brandon, let's talk about the national security aspect of an open border.
00:12:01.000 It still is hard for me to just get my head wrapped around the idea that in a post-9-11 world,
00:12:07.800 and I know that was a long time ago in some people's minds, to me it's still very fresh.
00:12:12.980 I still remember what that was like, how we have a border that is so wide open,
00:12:18.000 and we also know that people are exploiting our open border.
00:12:22.360 How big of a concern is that for you and all the Border Patrol agents you work with?
00:12:26.800 We always talk about the apprehensions.
00:12:29.180 We talk about how those numbers are skyrocketing, how we're taking too many people in custody.
00:12:34.760 What doesn't get talked about enough and where national security is involved is the gotaways,
00:12:40.380 the people that are able to enter the country illegally and evade apprehension.
00:12:44.360 Right now, we're having about 3,000 gotaways per day.
00:12:49.800 That means 3,000 people who we don't know who they are, where they're coming from,
00:12:53.260 what their intentions are here in the United States.
00:12:55.440 They're able to evade apprehension.
00:12:57.660 And we're going to feel the effects of it down the road.
00:13:02.060 Terrorists always lay in wait.
00:13:03.640 That's what they do.
00:13:04.920 They wait until there's an opportunity.
00:13:07.360 And if we have people that are crossing the border illegally and they're able to evade apprehension,
00:13:12.280 they're coming from the Middle East or they're coming from a country that wants to do us harm, 1.00
00:13:16.360 we're ultimately going to feel that effects.
00:13:18.700 That, again, is one of the reasons that border security is so important to the American people.
00:13:23.180 It's so important to this nation that we're able to secure the border.
00:13:26.820 It's so important to this nation that we're able to vet every single person that comes into this country so that we can ensure that we can protect the interest not only of the economy but also the interest of each individual American.
00:13:42.320 Well, and Brandon, I want to underscore something you said.
00:13:45.920 If you're coming here illegally and you're not a bad guy, you're not a drug dealer, you're not a gang member, you don't have a criminal record, you're not a terrorist,
00:13:58.360 is there any reason for you to be a runner?
00:14:02.280 Is there any reason for you to be a gotaway?
00:14:04.680 None. Absolutely none.
00:14:06.020 And why is that?
00:14:07.180 Because you know you're going to be released.
00:14:09.020 Under these policies, you're going to be released in the United States, so why would you run?
00:14:12.440 So understand that.
00:14:13.760 If you're just a regular Central American who wants to come to America, what you do is what they're doing by the thousands every night. 1.00
00:14:22.660 You come across and you go look for a border patrol agent.
00:14:25.820 You don't run, you actually walk up to the border patrol agent.
00:14:29.360 Most of them are carrying with them a plastic baggie, typically with some form of identification, maybe a birth certificate, maybe a passport,
00:14:36.940 and usually a phone number of somebody in the United States.
00:14:40.520 They go look for a border patrol agent.
00:14:42.060 They do.
00:14:42.700 They not only don't run, they want to find the border patrol agent.
00:14:46.740 Because the border patrol agent will process them and under Biden will put them on an airplane or a bus
00:14:54.420 and take them to wherever they want to go in the United States.
00:14:57.160 So the 3,000 people a day who are running, who are gotaways, the natural inference is every one of them has something to hide.
00:15:07.200 Every one of them has something that they're like, wait, if I were to turn myself into a border patrol agent,
00:15:12.460 they would find out that I have a homicide conviction.
00:15:15.020 They would find out that I'm a member of MS-13.
00:15:17.080 They would find out that I'm the terrorist watch list.
00:15:20.180 They would find out that I'm carrying a backpack full of marijuana or fentanyl.
00:15:25.360 And those are the people that are getting away, and they're doing it every single day in significant part
00:15:32.800 because the border patrol agents are swamped with the deluge of illegal immigrants,
00:15:39.200 which means the bad guys have free reign because there aren't agents left to deal with them.
00:15:44.600 Is that – am I accurately capturing that?
00:15:46.500 You nailed it on the head.
00:15:48.600 When you look at the numbers, we talk about numbers all the time,
00:15:51.440 but numbers without context are nothing but numbers.
00:15:54.420 So we have to put the numbers in context so people can understand why it's so important.
00:15:59.440 In a normal administration, in a normal day, we will apprehend between 1,000 to 1,500 people per day.
00:16:06.400 Right now, we're apprehending 10,000 people per day.
00:16:10.700 What that does is that strains all of our resources.
00:16:13.380 It pulls our agents out of the – off the border from patrolling and puts us in administrative duties.
00:16:19.260 And when we're in administrative duties, we can't go after the cartels.
00:16:22.240 And right now, with 10,000 apprehensions per day, that means we only have about 15 percent of our resource of patrolling the border.
00:16:29.820 And when you only have 15 percent of your resource patrolling the border, the cartels own the border at that point.
00:16:35.960 Now they have free reign to get anything into this country that they want. 0.88
00:16:39.980 Well, and Brandon, the example you gave me is with the Border Patrol mustering 44 agents.
00:16:46.460 When you have apprehensions that are 10,000 a day, roughly four of those agents are out in the field actually in a position to stop a drug runner, to stop a terrorist, to stop a bad guy.
00:17:02.480 And roughly 40 of those 44 are doing processing, are caring for just this massive humanity, and are basically being social workers.
00:17:12.660 And is that what's happening?
00:17:17.420 It is.
00:17:17.800 It is what's happening.
00:17:18.700 We're not doing a law enforcement job.
00:17:21.040 We are, in fact, being social workers.
00:17:23.140 We're taking care of these individuals.
00:17:24.840 We're giving them food.
00:17:26.480 We're giving diapers.
00:17:28.140 At times, we're even changing diapers.
00:17:30.680 And so, yeah, we've been taken out of the law enforcement role, and we've been put into a secondary role that's administrative in nature, and that's not what law enforcement is supposed to be doing.
00:17:42.400 We've got to go back, and we have to look at this.
00:17:44.980 We have activists that are running legitimate law enforcement organizations.
00:17:50.160 And any time that you have activists running law enforcement organizations, we're not going to be able to enforce the rule of law.
00:17:58.140 They don't like the rule of law.
00:17:59.440 Activists don't like that.
00:18:01.100 They want this open border crisis.
00:18:02.400 Well, listen, this is the same thing as George Soros DAs in criminal law enforcement.
00:18:09.060 This is putting radical activists who hate the mission of Border Patrol in charge of Border Patrol.
00:18:18.260 And if they hate the mission of Border Patrol, they won't let them actually fulfill their mission.
00:18:23.480 And so that means a couple of things.
00:18:24.620 One, it means America is at much greater risk.
00:18:27.480 It means we have what we had last year, over 100,000 overdoses, about 70 percent of which were from Chinese fentanyl.
00:18:34.980 And by the way, that's the highest rate of overdoses in the history of the United States of America.
00:18:39.260 Congratulations, Joe Biden and the Democrats.
00:18:41.360 You've set a record, but it ain't a good one.
00:18:43.120 It means terrorists can come into this country unabated.
00:18:48.360 It also means there's a morale matter.
00:18:50.980 Look, I've gotten to know a lot of Border Patrol agents over the last decade.
00:18:54.220 These guys are tough.
00:18:55.920 These guys sign up.
00:18:58.020 Look, they're like cops.
00:18:59.680 Ben, your dad was a cop.
00:19:01.120 They sign up because they want to defend America, because they believe in our country.
00:19:05.780 They want to keep our country safe, that they want to protect kids.
00:19:08.940 They want to protect our communities.
00:19:10.160 They want to stop drug traffickers.
00:19:11.800 They want to stop human traffickers.
00:19:13.240 And these tough, badass law enforcement agents instead find themselves changing diapers and processing paperwork day after day after day.
00:19:26.920 That's not using their skills where they're needed, but it's also demoralizing the living daylights out of these guys.
00:19:32.940 It is.
00:19:33.340 It is.
00:19:33.640 And I will change diapers if I feel I can go after the cartels as well.
00:19:37.900 I recognize that these are small children.
00:19:40.420 We've got to treat these small children the best that we possibly can.
00:19:43.580 But I want to be able to go after the cartels.
00:19:45.660 That's what we want to be able to do.
00:19:46.840 We want to be able to go after the prophets.
00:19:48.640 We want to stop them from trafficking people into modern-day slavery.
00:19:54.280 That's what's happening.
00:19:55.660 These people are going into the sex industry, forcibly going into the sex industry.
00:20:00.900 They're going into sweatshops.
00:20:02.580 And that's what we want to stop.
00:20:04.060 We want to protect life.
00:20:05.840 We believe that life is very important.
00:20:08.560 The Democrats give an awful lot of lip service.
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00:20:16.120 Don't listen to his words.
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00:20:19.000 And if we judge them on their actions, we would quickly find out that all they care about is themselves.
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00:21:14.720 What is the biggest policy that needs to change?
00:21:18.180 I mean, we're seeing this happen.
00:21:20.020 It's a humanitarian crisis.
00:21:22.520 Many communities have declared state of emergencies.
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00:22:50.460 Brandon, what is that policy, the number one policy that Joe Biden could implement that could have a massive impact of you guys being able to actually get back to doing your job and securing our border?
00:23:02.780 I'm going to show all of your listens the reason why we support Senator Cruz.
00:23:06.420 I bet you anything that he could answer this question the exact same way that I would answer the question.
00:23:13.540 Senator, what's the answer?
00:23:15.180 End catch and release and reinstate the Remain in Mexico agreement.
00:23:19.300 That's it right there.
00:23:20.460 That's all we have to do.
00:23:21.800 And by the way, that doesn't cost the taxpayer anything.
00:23:24.940 The taxpayer does not have to shoulder this burden.
00:23:28.500 We could secure the border tomorrow with the resources that we have.
00:23:32.060 I don't need more manpower.
00:23:34.040 I don't need more technology.
00:23:35.620 I don't need more infrastructure.
00:23:37.400 I need policy.
00:23:39.080 Something that doesn't cost us anything.
00:23:41.260 And we could secure it tomorrow.
00:23:44.700 Is there a chance that this gets so bad that they will be publicly shamed into doing that?
00:23:50.960 And I'm asking you, Senator, the politics of this as well.
00:23:54.020 At what point does this start to backfire on Democrats?
00:23:56.880 I mean, if this many illegal immigrants keep coming across the border, as we're witnessing right now with the ending of Title 42, 0.98
00:24:03.980 and we see even in New York, they said they weren't going to bus people to other parts of New York.
00:24:08.300 They've already lied in New York City.
00:24:09.760 They kept doing that actually yesterday while it was in New York City.
00:24:12.680 And they're kicking Americans out of shelters to make room for illegal immigrants coming in, including children. 1.00
00:24:20.780 Americans and children yesterday were kicked out of shelters in New York City to make room for illegal immigrants. 1.00
00:24:27.380 They are they are displacing Americans for this. 0.96
00:24:30.560 At what point does this start to backfire?
00:24:33.380 Well, I don't know that there is a point where Joe Biden feels one iota of shame.
00:24:37.360 I don't know that there is a point where Kamala Harris feels one iota of shame.
00:24:41.000 I don't know that there's a point where Alejandro Mayorkas feels one iota of shame.
00:24:45.300 I can tell you this, though.
00:24:47.540 Congressional Democrats are starting to get nervous as all get out.
00:24:50.920 You know, we talked on this pod at length about six weeks ago when Alejandro Mayorkas testified in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and I lit him up.
00:25:00.880 But perhaps the most interesting moment of that entire testimony is as I'm going after Mayorkas, he looks up to Dick Durbin, and he basically pleads for Durbin to come save him.
00:25:14.500 And listen, Dick Durbin, I think, is the smartest of the Democrats on the Judiciary Committee.
00:25:19.920 He is he's a hard left winger.
00:25:21.900 But Dick and I have spent the last 11 years battling and beating the living daylights out of each other.
00:25:27.860 He's not shy about coming after me.
00:25:30.180 I'm not shy about coming after him.
00:25:31.940 And Durbin looked at Mayorkas and just kind of shrugged.
00:25:36.300 And I thought that was the most revealing moment, because what it said to me is, oh, Durbin and the Dems are nervous.
00:25:44.340 They recognize this is an absolute disaster that's playing out on the southern border.
00:25:52.140 And they're starting to think about their own rear ends and doing a CYA, and they're ready to let Mayorkas twist.
00:26:02.300 And, you know, it's interesting, Ben.
00:26:04.020 I want to tell you some of the things that I learned on this trip, because a number of things were different on this trip from the last time I was at the border.
00:26:12.280 I'm here often.
00:26:13.000 But when I was last at the border, the bulk of the illegal immigration was coming from a handful of Central American countries.
00:26:22.360 It was coming from Nicaragua and Guatemala and Honduras and El Salvador.
00:26:27.900 Those four were driving the vast majority of illegal immigration.
00:26:33.240 What is fascinating now, we're in Brownsville.
00:26:36.660 Normally, I would go to McAllen, which was the epicenter of the crisis.
00:26:41.020 The cartels have moved to Brownsville, which is further east.
00:26:44.880 Brownsville is the very southern tip of Texas.
00:26:48.600 And Brownsville right now is seeing a massive influx.
00:26:52.560 Just in Brownsville, they have seen in less than a month more than 40,000 illegal immigrants.
00:27:01.660 And what is fascinating about what they're seeing, 35,000 of them have been Venezuelans.
00:27:07.620 It's a massive influx of Venezuelans.
00:27:09.940 The next largest group here in Brownsville has been Colombians.
00:27:14.080 And Colombians have been roughly 2,000.
00:27:17.460 And it goes down from there.
00:27:19.020 Let me tell you another amazing stat they told me.
00:27:21.840 They said they are right now encountering between 90 and 100 Chinese nationals each and every day.
00:27:33.260 Wow.
00:27:33.400 Last time I was down here, it was four or five Chinese nationals.
00:27:36.380 It's gone from four or five a day to 90 to 100.
00:27:40.420 And I pressed them and said, OK, what happens with those Chinese nationals? 1.00
00:27:45.320 They said, well, we investigate them and look for derogatory information, something like a criminal conviction, something that is a real concern that they may be a spy.
00:27:56.840 And if they have derogatory information, we deport them.
00:28:00.220 And I said, OK, out of that 90, how many will fall into that category?
00:28:04.700 And they said, ah, five or six, which means about 85 Chinese nationals a day.
00:28:10.720 They're just releasing, releasing into America.
00:28:13.280 That is a massive shift.
00:28:15.100 Let me tell you something else that I saw tonight.
00:28:18.100 Just south of the border in Matamores, there are 22,000 illegal aliens camped out right along the Rio Grande River.
00:28:29.200 It is, as you noted at the outset, like an invading army.
00:28:32.660 We went down to the riverbanks.
00:28:34.360 We saw them.
00:28:35.100 They had fires burning.
00:28:36.740 They had music playing.
00:28:38.200 They were throwing a party because Title 42 was ending tonight, and that 22,000 was planning to invade this country in the next couple of days.
00:28:49.220 And there are 170,000 all up and down the border in exactly that position getting ready to come over because of Joe Biden.
00:28:57.600 Brennan, you've seen surges before.
00:29:01.020 You've seen things change.
00:29:02.520 When Donald Trump, you know, stopped being the president, Joe Biden was coming in, even before Joe Biden had been sworn in, you saw a surge that was taking place.
00:29:12.000 Have you ever witnessed anything like what you're witnessing right now?
00:29:15.240 And what does the new normal look like?
00:29:17.040 Is this going to be a massive surge and then the numbers are going to come way back down?
00:29:21.320 Or is this going to be a massive surge with all-time new high numbers each day, each week, each month?
00:29:26.540 In my worst nightmare, I never thought it could have gotten this bad, ever.
00:29:30.080 Remember, they are trying to set the new normal.
00:29:34.020 They don't want to go back to what it used to be.
00:29:36.820 They want these numbers to continue.
00:29:38.880 They want the American people to think that, okay, well, 10,000 today, 10,000 tomorrow, that's normal.
00:29:45.220 And then it goes up to 12,000.
00:29:46.800 Then it goes up to 13,000.
00:29:48.280 They just want that number to continue to go up and up and up.
00:29:52.760 Remember, a normal day under a normal administration, this includes Obama,
00:29:57.660 our normal apprehensions are between 1,000 to 1,500 per day.
00:30:02.200 We normally deploy 80% of our resources to the field.
00:30:06.040 We only have 20% of our resources doing administrative work, and that has completely changed.
00:30:11.680 They have completely flipped it upside down.
00:30:14.440 We're now apprehending 10,000 people per day.
00:30:17.520 We only have 20% of our resources patrolling the border, if 20% of our resources patrolling the border.
00:30:24.400 And the cartels control everything.
00:30:26.420 We used to be able to go after the cartels.
00:30:28.400 We used to be able to go after the profits.
00:30:29.900 We used to be able to go after their drugs.
00:30:32.060 Now we can't do any of that.
00:30:34.380 When you say you can't go after the cartels and you can't go after the drugs,
00:30:37.480 I really want you to explain that because so many people listening are going to be saying,
00:30:42.000 well, wait, why can't they do that part of their job?
00:30:44.560 That has nothing to do with Title 42.
00:30:46.480 So explain why you can't.
00:30:48.360 Because we don't have anybody in the field to do the job.
00:30:51.180 We're all doing, none of us are doing law enforcement work.
00:30:54.280 We're all doing administrative duties.
00:30:57.100 If we were doing law enforcement work, we would be able to go after the cartels.
00:31:00.500 We would be able to go after and try to put a dent in their profits.
00:31:04.460 So let me give you an example, Ben.
00:31:06.120 All right, so we came down here to Brownsville,
00:31:08.600 and we came right along the border to the place where illegal immigrants have been crossing in vast numbers.
00:31:15.760 And what happens is they walk across, and we saw multiple groups walking across,
00:31:20.340 and they walk right up.
00:31:21.520 They look for the Border Patrol agents.
00:31:22.980 They actually don't look for them.
00:31:23.960 They know where they are.
00:31:24.820 The cartels have told them, okay, they're right over there.
00:31:26.780 Just walk up the road.
00:31:27.620 They'll be right there.
00:31:28.540 So they walk straight up, and they're carrying with them identification,
00:31:32.440 and there's actually new technology the Border Patrol agents have.
00:31:37.060 It's on their cell phone, so every agent has it on their cell phone.
00:31:40.460 And with the cell phone, let's say the illegal immigrant has a birth certificate or a passport, 0.99
00:31:45.900 some form of identification.
00:31:48.340 They scan that ID with their cell phone.
00:31:51.640 It auto-populates the fields, and I saw them doing this over and over again.
00:31:55.800 It puts the name in, puts the age in.
00:31:58.260 It puts whatever country they say they're from.
00:32:01.060 They've now streamlined it.
00:32:03.220 Do you know how long it takes a Border Patrol agent to process an illegal immigrant
00:32:08.020 when they cross right now just using the Border Patrol, using the cell phone app?
00:32:12.440 I would assume extremely fast, but how fast?
00:32:16.740 Two minutes.
00:32:18.000 Wow.
00:32:18.340 So you literally can break into America, turn yourself into America, and be processed in 120 seconds. 0.80
00:32:28.140 Just in Brownsville, and I saw them do it over and over again.
00:32:30.600 I watched them fill it out, and they process it the cell phone.
00:32:33.880 It takes about two minutes.
00:32:35.240 Then they have them sit in a little staging area, and they have right now just in Brownsville.
00:32:40.820 So this is one tiny part of the border.
00:32:43.300 They have over 40 busloads a day of illegal immigrants.
00:32:49.040 They take them from the staging area to a detention center to figure out, okay, where do you want to go?
00:32:53.900 And then they arrange the transportation and ship them wherever they want to go.
00:32:57.420 But what Joe Biden is trying to do, what Kamala Harris is trying to do,
00:33:01.660 what Alejandro Mayorkas thinks his job is,
00:33:04.880 is not stop illegal immigration, is not prevent the trafficking.
00:33:11.120 It is rather to increase illegal immigration.
00:33:15.660 It is to increase human trafficking.
00:33:18.520 And Mayorkas every day wakes up and says, 0.98
00:33:20.800 how can I make it more efficient?
00:33:22.480 How can I make it faster?
00:33:23.840 How can I make two minutes into 90 seconds?
00:33:27.140 And what they want is they want the revolving door, not to stop, but to spin even faster.
00:33:35.720 And the suffering, last year 853 migrants died crossing illegally into this country.
00:33:42.720 The body bags, the women being sexually assaulted, the children being brutalized,
00:33:47.680 the people dying of drug overdoses,
00:33:50.080 those are all, from the Biden administration's perspective,
00:33:53.160 perfectly acceptable losses for their political goal of utterly reshaping the American electorate.
00:34:01.180 And they are willing to ignore modern-day human slavery and sex trafficking
00:34:07.040 because politics matters more to them.
00:34:10.420 Yeah, and that's, I think, the part that angers so many Americans.
00:34:14.260 I want to ask you one final question, Brandon, about these cartels,
00:34:18.880 because what has been lost in this is the profits and the amount of carnage
00:34:23.580 not just left behind, but also the amount of carnage
00:34:28.120 and lives that they're ruining on this side of the border 0.63
00:34:31.120 with the drugs coming across and the fentanyl and the gangs.
00:34:36.120 Put that into perspective for everyone that's listening
00:34:40.220 because it's not just the numbers, as you mentioned.
00:34:43.800 It is also all of this other organized crime.
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00:36:05.000 Brandon, just talk about the carnage that this is,
00:36:11.540 that the drugs and the cartels are creating,
00:36:16.700 that the American people are having to deal with,
00:36:18.280 that the media refuses to talk about.
00:36:20.120 And that's outside the illegal immigration issue.
00:36:22.820 So it all starts with illegal immigration.
00:36:25.340 That's where all of their profits start.
00:36:27.020 What they do is they use,
00:36:29.180 it's so monstrous,
00:36:30.880 their business model,
00:36:32.240 the way they operate.
00:36:33.620 They use illegal aliens as pawns. 0.98
00:36:37.100 And when they do that,
00:36:38.380 they open up their opportunities to smuggle in drugs,
00:36:42.820 to smuggle in people from special interest countries.
00:36:46.380 It's all about using...
00:36:48.060 And Brandon, what's a special interest country?
00:36:49.860 That's a country that wants to do us harm. 0.95
00:36:51.720 Something like Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemen,
00:36:55.160 all of those countries. 0.94
00:36:55.980 Countries with terrorists that might try to blow us up.
00:36:58.640 Yep, absolutely.
00:36:59.940 And so what these cartels do is,
00:37:01.400 they use these illegal immigrants as pawns, 0.99
00:37:03.800 to open up their traffic lanes.
00:37:06.280 When they cross a bunch of illegal aliens,
00:37:09.560 they know that it pulls our resources to that area,
00:37:12.740 opening up gaps in our coverage.
00:37:14.380 And that's when they cross their fentanyl.
00:37:16.220 And that fentanyl is coming in.
00:37:17.680 So they're using illegal aliens, 1.00
00:37:19.260 and they're making billions of dollars,
00:37:21.780 not in a year, in a month.
00:37:24.020 They're making billions of dollars off of illegal immigrants. 0.70
00:37:27.020 And then you add on top of that,
00:37:30.020 the astronomical amount of money
00:37:32.120 that they're making off of the drug trade.
00:37:34.040 And it's all based upon the policies of this administration.
00:37:37.780 This administration is enriching these cartels
00:37:41.440 through their policies,
00:37:42.800 and it could stop tomorrow.
00:37:44.600 And that's what is so frustrating to every single one of us.
00:37:48.120 Well, and Brandon is exactly right.
00:37:50.120 And let me say two things in closing.
00:37:52.860 Number one,
00:37:54.520 let me give you specificity, Ben,
00:37:56.220 on the numbers you asked for.
00:37:57.600 And my source may be surprising.
00:38:00.380 It's the New York Times,
00:38:01.540 hardly a right-wing source.
00:38:02.960 According to the New York Times,
00:38:05.540 the Mexican drug cartels in 2018
00:38:07.920 made roughly $500 million from human trafficking.
00:38:12.320 A lot of money.
00:38:12.900 $500 million is a bunch of money.
00:38:15.460 Last year,
00:38:17.060 those same cartels made over $13 billion
00:38:21.640 just from human trafficking.
00:38:24.940 Their profits have increased 2,600%.
00:38:29.900 I've said this before,
00:38:31.000 but it's not hyperbole.
00:38:32.080 The single best thing that ever happened
00:38:35.160 to the drug cartels
00:38:36.960 was Joe Biden becoming president
00:38:39.360 because he took these murderous, 0.99
00:38:42.100 torturing, sociopathic gangsters 0.93
00:38:45.980 and he made them deca-billionaires. 0.62
00:38:49.680 And they have now created a global empire,
00:38:52.160 including with illegal immigrants
00:38:53.880 working for them and committing crimes
00:38:55.540 in every community in every city in America.
00:38:58.380 Let me make a second point.
00:38:59.660 When we were down here,
00:39:01.720 there were a bunch of reporters here
00:39:02.960 and a bunch of the reporters
00:39:04.160 are little left-wing twits.
00:39:06.440 So reporters would ask things like,
00:39:08.840 is compassion important?
00:39:12.420 Isn't it important that we be compassionate?
00:39:15.740 And I'll tell you a conversation
00:39:17.160 I had with a couple of reporters
00:39:18.560 that I have to admit,
00:39:19.440 it made them actually sort of pause
00:39:21.540 and shake their head.
00:39:22.420 I said, listen,
00:39:24.480 we all remember the immigration debates
00:39:26.340 that played out for years
00:39:27.640 and five, six years ago
00:39:29.400 when you were talking about immigration,
00:39:31.180 all the Democrats would get on their high horse
00:39:33.240 and they'd say,
00:39:33.980 we're compassionate,
00:39:35.540 we're humane,
00:39:36.660 not like you mean, 0.99
00:39:38.200 nasty Republicans 0.95
00:39:39.100 who want to secure the border. 0.99
00:39:40.540 We're the ones who are compassionate.
00:39:42.760 And when I put it out to reporters
00:39:44.440 that I said, you know what? 1.00
00:39:46.520 The Democrats know they're full of crap now. 1.00
00:39:48.900 And you know how you know that? 0.99
00:39:51.900 Because none of them are here.
00:39:54.200 Joe Biden isn't here.
00:39:56.100 Kamala Harris isn't here.
00:39:58.040 Elizabeth Warren isn't here.
00:39:59.920 Bernie Sanders isn't here.
00:40:01.760 AOC isn't here.
00:40:03.620 And it's because you cannot look
00:40:06.100 at the body bags,
00:40:08.240 at the women horribly assaulted,
00:40:10.280 at the children brutalized.
00:40:11.800 You cannot look at the horrific suffering
00:40:15.760 they're causing
00:40:16.620 and claim it is somehow humane.
00:40:20.780 When I was standing down by the Rio Grande,
00:40:22.840 we saw lots of kids' shoes, flip-flops.
00:40:25.960 I saw a little pair of flip-flops.
00:40:28.460 Pink flip-flops,
00:40:29.520 they must have been for a girl
00:40:30.860 maybe five or six years old.
00:40:34.040 And, you know,
00:40:35.600 I pointed out,
00:40:36.580 I said, listen,
00:40:38.260 there is nothing remotely humane
00:40:40.280 or compassionate
00:40:41.000 about putting a five or six-year-old girl
00:40:44.340 in the custody of human traffickers
00:40:46.680 who daily brutalize little kids.
00:40:49.780 And the Democrats now,
00:40:51.480 their only strategy is hide this.
00:40:54.180 They don't want the media to cover it
00:40:56.180 because they cannot defend what is happening.
00:40:59.860 That's how bad it is
00:41:01.360 because the horror is undeniable.
00:41:04.620 Joe Biden is the criminal cartel's best friend.
00:41:08.000 Yes.
00:41:10.060 I think that's a great way to end this
00:41:12.460 because it's so important
00:41:13.560 that people understand
00:41:14.400 how bad it is
00:41:16.120 and also that this,
00:41:17.460 like you said,
00:41:18.060 Joe Biden is the cartel's best friend
00:41:20.740 and has made them more money
00:41:21.820 than they could have ever imagined.
00:41:24.200 Brandon, good luck to you
00:41:25.480 and your guys on the border.
00:41:27.420 I know you have to be demoralized by this,
00:41:29.880 but we appreciate all of your work
00:41:32.040 that you and your team
00:41:34.320 are doing down there.
00:41:35.500 They're patriots.
00:41:36.940 They're men and women
00:41:38.140 that risk their lives
00:41:39.160 and do this each and every day.
00:41:41.100 So I want to make sure you know
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