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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- August 30, 2024
CNN Fake Interview of Kamala Deserves an Oscar for Empty Propaganda
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Length
47 minutes
Words per Minute
167.45709
Word Count
8,027
Sentence Count
541
Misogynist Sentences
31
Hate Speech Sentences
22
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This is an iHeart Podcast.
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Guaranteed human.
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Welcome.
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Verdict to Senator Ted Cruz.
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Ben Ferguson with you.
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Senator, the babysitting interview took place
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and it started with CNN lying
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by having the word live up on the screen
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while the interview was taped.
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You can't make that up, can you?
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Well, you can't, but to call it an interview
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is actually false advertising.
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This was a Harris presidential campaign ad.
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They hired a situation actor named Dana Bash
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to read the Kamala Harris talking points to her
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and then she repeated them back at her.
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I have to say, this interview,
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and we're going to break it down,
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we're going to break it down systematically,
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but this interview was embarrassing.
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Like everybody at CNN,
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whoever thought they were a journalist,
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every producer, every reporter,
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every host ought to be collectively embarrassed
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because this was not news.
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Can you imagine if Tim Russert
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had done this interview?
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How massively, totally different it was.
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This was Dana Bash.
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The interview would not have been different
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if Kamala Harris had seated her own press secretary
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to ask her the questions.
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The same questions would have been asked.
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It was, it was, it was, it was embarrassing,
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but it was, it was pure propaganda.
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It was, it actually is what RFK Jr. said
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when he endorsed Trump.
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The press is the, is the media organ
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of the Democrat campaign.
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CNN were not journalists tonight.
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They were part of the Kamala Harris campaign
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and anyone watching it, it was embarrassing.
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Yeah, it really was.
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more than ever.
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Senator, let's go back
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to the very beginning.
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CNN was promoting
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the crap out of this interview
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wall-to-wall
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all day long
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with, you know,
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just everything
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was about this big day
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and that
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right there
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I think tells you
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just how messed up
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this race is
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and how messed up
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the media is.
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It should not be
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a must-see TV moment
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for the person
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who's running
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for President
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of the United States of America
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to do a damn interview.
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Yeah, look,
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I mean,
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it's been over a month
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since she was
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the presumptive nominee.
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Kamala Harris
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has done zero interviews
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prior to this one.
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None whatsoever.
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Then this one,
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her campaign reached out
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and presumably asked
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every network
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who will do
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the softest interview?
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Who will give us
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the most softballs?
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Who will not push us?
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Who will make sure
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Kamala is protected?
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And you know what?
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Winner, winner,
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chicken dinner,
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CNN stepped up
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and said,
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we have no journalistic
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integrity whatsoever.
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We are happy to be
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part of the Kamala Harris campaign.
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So Dana Bash won.
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You look at this interview,
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the opening question,
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you know,
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the nation is so excited
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to hear what you're going
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to do as president.
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Breathlessly.
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Oh, it's like a group.
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Oh, we're so excited.
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Oh, we're so excited.
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What are you going to do
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as president?
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Please tell us.
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What are you going to do
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on day one?
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Now, let me start by saying
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this is not
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a difficult question
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for most candidates
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for office.
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This is not a surprise question.
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This is not an unexpected question.
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What the hell
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are you going to do
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in office
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is pretty simple
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and basic.
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Kamala's answer,
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I'm going to strengthen
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the middle class.
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What?
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Like what?
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Like she gave this
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this word salad answer
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about fortify
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the middle class
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that is not actually
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anything the president
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does on day one
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or any day thereafter.
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Like it actually
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meant anything,
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meant nothing.
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And so,
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so,
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Dana Bash didn't point out,
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yeah,
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you didn't answer
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my question at all,
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but she did at least
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repeat the question
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for a moment
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that there was a tiny bit
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of being a question.
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She said,
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okay,
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so what are you going
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to do on day one?
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And again,
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Kamala has no answer.
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And let me give,
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look,
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the fundamental disconnect
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in this fake interview
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was the same
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as the fundamental disconnect
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in Kamala's convention speech,
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which is the entire
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Kamala Harris campaign
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is pretending
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she's the candidate
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of change
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and is ignoring
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it,
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it is utterly divorced
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from reality
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that she's the sitting
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vice president,
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that Joe Biden
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is the sitting president
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today,
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right now.
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So,
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by the way,
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the question,
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what are you going
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to do on day one
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is a weird question
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for any VP running
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to succeed a president
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because the way
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VPs running
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to succeed presidents run
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is they say,
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hey,
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we've had a great record,
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here's what we've done
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in office,
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we're going to continue
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these policies,
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we're going to grow
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these policies,
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but we're running
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on our success.
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Kamala,
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she's claiming
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that she is going
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to turn the page,
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she's going to change,
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there's an exchange
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later in the interview
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where she says,
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we're going to put
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the past decade
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behind us.
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The past decade,
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she and Joe Biden
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have been president
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and vice president
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for four years,
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and by the way,
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before Trump,
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Obama was president
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for eight years.
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Like,
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it is,
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we're going to put
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this horrible decade
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behind us,
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all but four years
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of which the Democrats
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have been in charge
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of the White House.
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There was a moment
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in this conversation
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as I was watching it
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tonight,
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and I was sitting there,
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and Joe Concha
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over at Fox came on,
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he had a great way
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of putting it
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after he was fact-checking
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Harris on her fracking,
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for example,
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flip-flop,
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and he said,
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Harris is a human
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Chernobyl
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when you take out
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the teleprompter,
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and that really
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is what it was.
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It was a train wreck,
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but at the same time,
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Senator,
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train wrecks don't mean
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what they used to mean.
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Like,
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the only way
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that there is
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accountability
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for doing a bad interview
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or having a bad moment
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is if it's as bad
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as Joe Biden
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in the first debate.
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I think Democrats
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probably look at this
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and they're like,
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ah,
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it wasn't that bad.
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No,
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Democrats are happy.
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Democrats are very happy,
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and I actually don't think
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it was a train wreck
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for Kamala Harris.
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I think it was a train wreck
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for CNN.
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This was not an interview.
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This is a campaign commercial,
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and you know what?
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They did fine
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for a campaign commercial,
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so on questions,
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Kamala would say something
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like strengthen
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the middle class.
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I'm just gonna,
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I'm gonna lift people up,
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not push people down.
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I'm gonna go forward,
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not backwards.
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I'm gonna hope he changed,
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not,
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not,
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not saddy hurt.
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Like,
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there was a bunch
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of vapid,
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empty statements,
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and it would be
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a train wreck
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if there had been
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a journalist in the room,
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because a journalist
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in the room
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would point out
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the actual record.
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So,
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she flip-flops
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on fracking,
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and,
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and,
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you know,
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Dana bashed so gently,
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well,
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you said you would
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cancel fracking.
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Well,
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no,
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no,
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no,
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I changed my mind
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in 2020.
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Why?
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Well,
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I did.
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Why?
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Well,
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why I did?
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Why?
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So,
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there was no question
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about Biden
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and Harris's record.
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So,
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for example,
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the fracking thing.
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All right,
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you want to ask
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about energy?
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Okay,
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Dana,
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here's a rocket,
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rocket scientist idea.
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Ask about the disastrous
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record of Joe Biden
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and Kamala Harris
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on energy.
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Kamala,
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why on the first day
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in office
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did,
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did,
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did Joe Biden
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and your administration
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cancel the Keystone Pipeline?
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Kamala,
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why,
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why did Joe Biden
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and your administration
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shut down oil
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and gas leasing
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on federal lands?
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Why did your administration
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shut down offshore drilling?
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Kamala,
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why did your administration
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ban new permits,
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new export permits
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for liquid natural gas?
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Why do you not want America
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to produce oil and gas?
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Why have you implemented
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over 90 different
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executive orders,
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regulations,
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designed to destroy jobs
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in oil and gas?
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That would be an actual reporter.
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By the way,
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Tim Russert
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would have played the clips
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one after the other.
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Well,
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here's you doing this,
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here's you doing this,
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here's you doing this.
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And she'd say,
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well,
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no,
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no,
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we're going to,
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we're going to just,
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you know,
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help the middle class.
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Well,
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what about all the middle class
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jobs you destroyed?
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That's actually an interview,
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an interview that is based
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on facts.
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None of those words
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came out of
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Dan Abash's mouth.
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The new word for flip-flopping
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is clarify.
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And you mentioned this,
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so let's play part of it.
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Again,
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CNN lying to you on screen,
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saying this is live,
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it's nighttime,
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but if you look at the setting
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where they were doing the interview,
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it's daytime outside.
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So CNN exclusive,
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let's lie to the American people
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just on the premise
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of the interview.
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But then this was the question.
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I want to get some clarity
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on where you stand
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on some key policy issues.
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Energy is a big one.
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When you were in Congress,
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you supported the Green New Deal.
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And in 2019,
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you said,
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quote,
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there is no question
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I'm in favor of banning fracking.
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Fracking, as you know,
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is a pretty big issue,
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particularly in your
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must-win state of Pennsylvania.
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Do you still want
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to ban fracking?
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No,
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and I made that clear
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on the debate stage in 2020,
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that I would not ban fracking.
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As vice president,
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I did not ban fracking.
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As president,
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I will not ban fracking.
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In 2019,
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I believe,
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at a town hall,
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you said,
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you were asked,
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would you commit
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to implementing
00:11:45.420
a federal ban on fracking
00:11:46.720
on your first day in office?
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And you said,
00:11:48.300
there's no question
00:11:48.880
I'm in favor of banning fracking.
00:11:50.280
So, yes.
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So,
00:11:51.920
it changed in that campaign?
00:11:54.720
In 2020,
00:11:55.660
I made very clear
00:11:56.420
where I stand.
00:11:57.200
We are in 2024,
00:11:58.380
and I've not changed
00:11:59.060
that position,
00:11:59.660
nor will I going forward.
00:12:01.040
I kept my word,
00:12:01.880
and I will keep my word.
00:12:03.380
What made you change
00:12:04.560
that position at the time?
00:12:06.420
Well,
00:12:07.220
let's be clear.
00:12:08.380
My values have not changed.
00:12:10.480
I believe it is very important
00:12:12.200
that we take seriously
00:12:13.620
what we must do
00:12:14.940
to guard against
00:12:17.560
what is a clear crisis
00:12:19.240
in terms of the climate.
00:12:21.220
And to do that,
00:12:22.820
we can do
00:12:23.700
what we have accomplished
00:12:24.800
thus far,
00:12:25.540
the Inflation Reduction Act,
00:12:26.980
what we have done
00:12:27.660
to invest,
00:12:28.200
by my calculation,
00:12:29.780
over probably a trillion dollars
00:12:31.700
over the next 10 years,
00:12:33.040
investing in a clean energy economy,
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what we've already done,
00:12:36.540
creating over 300,000 new
00:12:38.840
clean energy jobs.
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By the way,
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I just have to stop there,
00:12:42.080
Senator,
00:12:42.440
and go back.
00:12:43.340
How much money did they get
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from the American people
00:12:45.700
to build a bunch of
00:12:46.880
charging stations
00:12:47.760
they were going to build
00:12:48.300
all over the country,
00:12:49.020
and we built,
00:12:49.460
I think it's three of them.
00:12:49.740
And they built virtually
00:12:50.600
none of them.
00:12:51.300
Yeah,
00:12:51.560
like two or three,
00:12:52.380
I think is what we've done so far.
00:12:53.980
And she sits there,
00:12:55.080
and she's just flat out lying
00:12:56.240
to the American people.
00:12:57.420
She absolutely has said.
00:12:58.060
And by the way,
00:12:58.780
why didn't Dana Bash
00:12:59.760
point that out?
00:13:00.920
Why didn't Dana Bash
00:13:01.880
point that out?
00:13:03.020
And look,
00:13:03.640
so Dana focuses on
00:13:05.900
one quote from 2019.
00:13:07.680
What about the rest
00:13:08.360
of her record?
00:13:09.940
This is the incumbent
00:13:11.300
administration right now.
00:13:13.160
And by the way,
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on this front,
00:13:15.940
well,
00:13:16.240
hold on.
00:13:17.080
I want you to keep playing
00:13:18.620
that clip you were playing
00:13:19.840
because then Dana tries
00:13:21.380
to coax her in an answer,
00:13:23.520
and it really is pitiful.
00:13:25.040
It is as if they brought in
00:13:26.560
Corrine Jean-Pierre
00:13:27.340
to do the interview.
00:13:28.420
Play the rest of what Dana says.
00:13:30.760
That tells me,
00:13:32.540
from my experience
00:13:33.560
as vice president,
00:13:34.280
we can do it
00:13:34.760
without banning fracking.
00:13:35.880
In fact,
00:13:36.440
Dana,
00:13:36.900
Dana,
00:13:37.380
excuse me,
00:13:37.840
I cast the tie-breaking vote
00:13:40.840
that actually increased
00:13:43.340
leases for fracking
00:13:44.280
as vice president.
00:13:45.840
So I'm very clear
00:13:46.680
about where I stand.
00:13:47.640
And was there some
00:13:48.340
policy
00:13:49.560
or scientific data
00:13:51.540
that you saw
00:13:52.140
that you said,
00:13:52.680
oh, okay,
00:13:53.040
I get it now?
00:13:54.520
What I have seen
00:13:55.640
is that we can
00:13:56.760
grow
00:13:58.480
and we can increase
00:13:59.700
a thriving
00:14:00.640
clean energy economy
00:14:01.840
without banning fracking.
00:14:02.980
Okay.
00:14:03.760
Okay.
00:14:04.160
There we go.
00:14:04.940
Like, okay.
00:14:05.520
Sounds great.
00:14:06.340
Thank you.
00:14:06.780
I'm glad we summed that up.
00:14:07.880
It's embarrassing,
00:14:08.900
by the way,
00:14:09.480
for Dana Bash.
00:14:10.380
I'm sorry.
00:14:10.860
It just is.
00:14:11.360
It's embarrassing.
00:14:13.260
She goes on to say,
00:14:15.140
she goes on to say,
00:14:16.060
how should voters look
00:14:17.580
at some of the changes
00:14:18.400
you've made?
00:14:19.020
Is it because
00:14:19.600
you have more experience now
00:14:21.660
and you've learned
00:14:23.180
more about the information?
00:14:24.460
Is it because you were
00:14:25.240
running for president
00:14:25.980
in a Democratic primary?
00:14:27.420
And should they feel
00:14:28.260
comfortable
00:14:28.980
and confident
00:14:30.000
that what you're saying now
00:14:32.000
is going to be
00:14:32.760
your policy moving forward,
00:14:34.520
Madam President?
00:14:35.120
I'm so excited
00:14:36.260
to see you as president
00:14:37.580
and I'm going to be
00:14:38.180
cheering and crying
00:14:39.140
the moment you're elected.
00:14:40.280
Oh, my God,
00:14:40.800
I'm so excited.
00:14:41.860
Yay, Kamala.
00:14:43.120
Oh, wait,
00:14:43.480
I'm a journalist.
00:14:44.140
Crap.
00:14:45.040
And let's go back
00:14:46.220
to what she said
00:14:47.500
when she said,
00:14:48.540
and I'm sorry,
00:14:49.160
she's a liar.
00:14:50.420
My values have not changed.
00:14:52.440
Let's remind people
00:14:53.660
of Kamala Harris's values then.
00:14:56.080
This is a montage
00:14:57.160
of her values.
00:14:58.820
My values have not changed.
00:15:00.680
Produce red meat specifically.
00:15:02.000
Yes.
00:15:02.380
The Boston Marathon bomber.
00:15:03.420
They should be able to vote.
00:15:04.420
I think we should have
00:15:05.020
that conversation.
00:15:05.880
Abolish ICE.
00:15:06.800
Yes.
00:15:07.060
Would you ban offshore drilling?
00:15:08.340
Yes.
00:15:08.700
I'm in favor of banning fracking.
00:15:10.040
I am prepared
00:15:10.900
to pass a greener deal.
00:15:12.100
I support a mandatory
00:15:13.060
buyback program.
00:15:14.080
We're not going to treat people
00:15:15.060
who are undocumented
00:15:16.340
across the border as criminals.
00:15:17.560
The idea that more police
00:15:19.320
equals more safety,
00:15:20.540
that's just wrong.
00:15:21.720
Policing, as we know,
00:15:22.700
goes all the way back
00:15:23.480
to slave patrols
00:15:24.640
and that idea.
00:15:25.520
Yes, you are absolutely right.
00:15:26.960
Where do you stand
00:15:27.560
on defund the police?
00:15:28.780
We need to take a look
00:15:29.620
with these budgets.
00:15:30.380
Do you ban plastic straws?
00:15:31.760
I think we should.
00:15:32.300
70 to 80% tax rate.
00:15:34.180
I think that's fantastic.
00:15:35.580
Chipping now
00:15:36.360
to the Minnesota Freedom Fund.
00:15:38.340
How dare we speak
00:15:39.440
Merry Christmas?
00:15:40.420
Yeah, I am radical.
00:15:41.360
I do believe that
00:15:42.300
we need to get radical
00:15:43.360
about what we are doing.
00:15:44.460
I mean, she says,
00:15:46.940
my values have not changed.
00:15:49.280
You might as well believe
00:15:50.220
Comrade Kamala on this one.
00:15:51.720
She's somebody that wants
00:15:52.940
a 70 to 80% tax rate
00:15:55.100
and said it was awesome.
00:15:57.420
No cash bail,
00:15:58.780
gun confiscation,
00:16:00.440
zero fracking,
00:16:01.520
a ban on gasoline-powered cars
00:16:03.540
she's in favor of as well.
00:16:04.980
So, Ben,
00:16:07.240
on all of those,
00:16:08.300
so it's clear the phrase
00:16:09.360
my values have not changed
00:16:10.680
is something
00:16:11.360
your campaign came up.
00:16:12.500
She said that like,
00:16:13.440
I don't know,
00:16:13.780
three or four times
00:16:14.440
in the interview
00:16:14.960
that they scripted.
00:16:16.660
That was her lead talking point
00:16:18.080
on any flip-flop
00:16:19.000
that she got pressed with
00:16:20.540
is, well,
00:16:20.820
my values have not changed.
00:16:22.440
And actually,
00:16:23.800
at some level,
00:16:25.380
that's the truest statement
00:16:26.460
she made
00:16:26.880
in the entire interview.
00:16:28.320
Yeah, great point.
00:16:28.580
Because Kamala Harris
00:16:29.580
is a radical leftist.
00:16:32.000
She is extreme.
00:16:34.080
And she still believes
00:16:35.060
all this stuff.
00:16:35.760
And you know what?
00:16:36.720
It's the reason why
00:16:38.260
nobody on the left
00:16:40.320
is unhappy
00:16:40.960
that she's suddenly
00:16:41.820
running away
00:16:42.860
from her positions
00:16:43.580
because they know
00:16:44.060
she's lying.
00:16:45.320
Like, let's be clear.
00:16:48.200
Border czar Kamala Harris
00:16:49.360
was in charge
00:16:49.980
of this invasion.
00:16:50.820
It happened on her watch.
00:16:52.200
And if, God forbid,
00:16:53.200
she becomes president,
00:16:54.420
it will get worse
00:16:55.520
and everyone gets the joke.
00:16:57.240
All the leftists know
00:16:58.240
she still believes
00:16:59.320
all this stuff.
00:17:00.300
She just has to say
00:17:01.800
some more conservative things
00:17:03.980
in the campaign
00:17:04.780
to fool the gullible voters.
00:17:06.960
But none of her
00:17:08.280
radical supporters
00:17:09.340
believe for a moment
00:17:10.160
she's right.
00:17:11.020
Her values have not changed.
00:17:12.500
She still believes
00:17:13.420
every word of that montage
00:17:15.420
and God forbid
00:17:16.340
if she's in the Oval Office
00:17:17.480
she'll do all of that
00:17:19.080
and more.
00:17:19.860
Unlike Joe Biden,
00:17:20.980
Joe Biden is a senile puppet.
00:17:25.100
Kamala Harris
00:17:25.900
is a true believer.
00:17:28.240
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It was also
00:18:00.380
a very weird interview
00:18:02.240
for the fact that
00:18:03.640
Walsh,
00:18:04.180
who was,
00:18:04.580
I guess,
00:18:05.060
there to babysit
00:18:06.240
and to hold her hand
00:18:07.100
and try to,
00:18:07.780
you know,
00:18:08.060
get her out of trouble
00:18:08.760
if she got in trouble
00:18:09.680
without a teleprompter.
00:18:11.240
He really didn't say much.
00:18:13.120
It was very awkward,
00:18:14.900
just kind of nodding
00:18:15.960
and laughing.
00:18:17.040
He did,
00:18:17.920
he was asked one question
00:18:19.360
about stolen valor
00:18:20.820
and the claims
00:18:21.560
that he saw combat
00:18:22.540
and Dana asked him
00:18:24.340
a question
00:18:24.860
and I want you
00:18:25.560
to hear his excuse.
00:18:26.860
A,
00:18:27.220
it's his wife's fault
00:18:29.220
in some capacity
00:18:30.540
that she says,
00:18:33.020
or his wife says
00:18:33.880
it's his fault
00:18:34.620
that sometimes
00:18:35.400
he just misspeaks
00:18:37.000
about if he did
00:18:38.860
or didn't go to war.
00:18:40.760
Listen to this.
00:18:41.640
Governor Walsh,
00:18:42.720
the country is just
00:18:44.100
starting to get to know you.
00:18:45.780
I want to ask you
00:18:47.160
a question about
00:18:47.900
how you've described
00:18:48.920
your service
00:18:49.640
in the National Guard.
00:18:50.820
You said that you
00:18:51.920
carried weapons in war
00:18:53.480
but you have never
00:18:54.880
deployed actually
00:18:55.760
in a war zone.
00:18:57.560
A campaign official
00:18:58.380
said that you misspoke.
00:19:00.000
Did you?
00:19:01.100
Well, first of all,
00:19:01.940
I'm incredibly proud.
00:19:03.280
I've done 24 years
00:19:04.280
of wearing the uniform
00:19:05.240
of this country.
00:19:06.380
Equally proud of my service
00:19:07.500
in a public school classroom,
00:19:08.940
whether it's Congress
00:19:09.640
or the governor.
00:19:11.540
My record speaks for itself
00:19:13.240
but I think people
00:19:14.400
are coming yet to know me.
00:19:15.460
I speak like they do.
00:19:16.920
I speak candidly.
00:19:18.160
I wear my emotions
00:19:18.860
on my sleeves
00:19:19.520
and I speak
00:19:21.320
especially passionately
00:19:22.480
about our children
00:19:24.080
being shot in schools
00:19:25.100
and around guns.
00:19:26.880
So I think people know me.
00:19:28.380
They know who I am.
00:19:29.260
They know where my heart is
00:19:31.220
and again,
00:19:32.180
my record has been out there
00:19:33.260
for over 40 years
00:19:34.300
to speak for itself.
00:19:35.460
And the idea that you said
00:19:38.560
that you were in war.
00:19:39.960
Did you misspeak
00:19:40.840
as the campaign has said?
00:19:41.940
Yeah, I said we were talking
00:19:43.180
about in this case
00:19:43.920
this was after a school shooting
00:19:45.100
the ideas of carrying
00:19:46.180
these weapons of war
00:19:47.160
and my wife,
00:19:48.540
the English,
00:19:48.920
she told my grammar
00:19:49.720
it's not always correct.
00:19:50.720
But again,
00:19:51.260
if it's not this,
00:19:52.460
it's an attack on my children
00:19:53.440
for showing love for me
00:19:55.060
or it's an attack on my dog.
00:19:56.440
I'm not going to do that
00:19:57.500
and the one thing
00:19:58.000
I'll never do is
00:19:58.700
I'll never demean
00:19:59.420
another member's service
00:20:00.960
in any way.
00:20:01.860
I never have
00:20:02.480
and I never will.
00:20:03.940
By the way,
00:20:04.440
yes, you did.
00:20:05.600
You said that you had
00:20:07.300
a rank you didn't have.
00:20:08.740
You said you saw combat
00:20:10.040
that you didn't see.
00:20:11.180
You said you had these guns
00:20:12.920
in wartime
00:20:14.100
that you didn't have
00:20:15.180
and then he says
00:20:16.100
I would never take away
00:20:17.100
from anybody else.
00:20:18.160
You absolutely did.
00:20:19.100
I think this is now
00:20:20.320
going to become
00:20:20.840
even a bigger issue for him
00:20:22.020
because he's like,
00:20:22.560
oh, it was just,
00:20:23.720
you know,
00:20:24.080
it was my grammar.
00:20:25.560
My grammar's not always correct.
00:20:27.400
Claiming you went to war,
00:20:28.880
Senator,
00:20:29.320
has nothing to do
00:20:30.320
with your grammar
00:20:30.920
if you didn't go to war.
00:20:33.260
Yeah, Ben,
00:20:33.740
I've got a different
00:20:34.560
take on this.
00:20:35.300
I think that whole exchange
00:20:36.440
is exactly what
00:20:37.700
the Kamala Harris campaign
00:20:38.840
wanted.
00:20:39.860
It was a softball
00:20:41.300
for him to talk about.
00:20:42.500
I served 24 years.
00:20:44.000
I'm proud of my service
00:20:45.220
and I also care about kids
00:20:47.100
and keeping kids safe.
00:20:48.140
Like you listen
00:20:48.620
at everything he said.
00:20:50.260
It was their campaign
00:20:51.740
talking points.
00:20:52.660
She just,
00:20:53.440
Dana said,
00:20:53.940
okay, here,
00:20:54.480
talk about praise
00:20:55.460
serving our nation
00:20:56.420
and be a little
00:20:58.120
self-effacing
00:20:59.080
and it,
00:21:00.960
again,
00:21:03.060
so reporters,
00:21:05.560
real reporters
00:21:06.440
actually focus on records.
00:21:08.240
Tim Waltz
00:21:08.920
may well be
00:21:10.200
the most radical governor
00:21:11.400
in the entire
00:21:12.200
United States of America.
00:21:14.240
Governor Waltz,
00:21:14.900
you signed legislation
00:21:15.940
putting tampons
00:21:16.860
in boys' restrooms.
00:21:18.440
Is that a mainstream view?
00:21:20.320
Governor Waltz,
00:21:21.100
you signed legislation
00:21:22.900
giving children
00:21:26.340
a right
00:21:27.360
to being sterilized
00:21:31.940
and mutilated
00:21:32.840
if they believe
00:21:33.620
they're a different gender
00:21:34.700
and setting the stage
00:21:36.840
for parents
00:21:37.640
to have
00:21:38.400
their parental rights
00:21:39.700
terminated
00:21:40.480
if they object
00:21:42.100
to their child
00:21:43.020
being sterilized.
00:21:44.380
You wanted to make
00:21:45.300
Minnesota
00:21:45.760
a sanctuary state
00:21:47.660
for children
00:21:48.920
who are getting
00:21:49.980
permanently mutilated.
00:21:51.480
Is that a mainstream
00:21:52.820
position,
00:21:53.520
Governor Waltz?
00:21:54.420
Governor Waltz,
00:21:55.240
you said in an interview
00:21:56.680
that the First Amendment
00:21:58.060
does not protect
00:21:59.200
what you call
00:21:59.820
misinformation
00:22:00.420
or hate speech.
00:22:02.220
Do you get to decide
00:22:03.420
what is and isn't
00:22:04.180
misinformation
00:22:04.740
and what exactly,
00:22:07.680
why do you think
00:22:09.380
you ought to have
00:22:10.000
the power
00:22:10.420
to take away
00:22:10.940
the free speech rights
00:22:11.860
of the American people?
00:22:13.460
Those would actually
00:22:14.540
be questions
00:22:15.320
about his actual record,
00:22:18.800
but it would take
00:22:20.000
a journalist
00:22:20.820
raising his record.
00:22:22.480
Now, to be honest,
00:22:24.180
Waltz shouldn't
00:22:24.760
have been there.
00:22:25.980
There is no
00:22:26.540
presidential candidate
00:22:27.540
in history
00:22:28.460
who has been
00:22:29.860
so weak
00:22:30.700
that they needed
00:22:31.380
their vice presidential
00:22:32.260
nominee there.
00:22:33.160
It was ridiculous
00:22:34.140
that he was sitting next.
00:22:35.500
Can you imagine
00:22:36.600
Trump being interviewed
00:22:37.980
and saying,
00:22:38.500
I need J.D. Vance there,
00:22:39.980
I need Mike Pence there?
00:22:41.300
For the first interview
00:22:42.220
ever, by the way,
00:22:43.060
as the candidate, right?
00:22:44.520
Like, let's be clear,
00:22:45.860
they've done
00:22:46.540
candidate two together
00:22:47.900
before,
00:22:48.500
and that's what the left
00:22:49.240
has been saying
00:22:50.000
is like,
00:22:50.660
well, hold on,
00:22:51.600
we've had interviews
00:22:52.460
that have been
00:22:53.140
president and vice president.
00:22:54.580
That is true,
00:22:55.460
but not the first one
00:22:56.960
and not after no one
00:22:58.600
voted for you
00:22:59.480
and you become
00:23:00.020
the nominee.
00:23:01.240
You should be able
00:23:01.800
to stand alone.
00:23:02.340
Tim Waltz was there
00:23:03.120
to be an emotional
00:23:03.900
support puppy.
00:23:05.180
He was just there
00:23:06.520
in case Kamala
00:23:07.200
got into trouble
00:23:08.020
to jump in and save her,
00:23:09.680
and he mostly
00:23:10.400
stayed quiet,
00:23:11.900
but the questions
00:23:13.180
Dana asked him
00:23:14.200
were perfectly
00:23:15.980
calibrated
00:23:16.880
to let him
00:23:18.540
give emotional
00:23:19.540
speeches about
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what a great guy
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he is,
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how much he loves
00:23:23.480
kids,
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he's been a teacher,
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he loves kids.
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Did you mention
00:23:26.320
he loves kids?
00:23:27.580
And he served
00:23:28.740
his nation,
00:23:29.340
and it's great,
00:23:30.040
and he also loves
00:23:31.080
kids.
00:23:32.740
That's not actually
00:23:34.060
an interview.
00:23:35.260
It's a great point.
00:23:36.380
It's not an interview.
00:23:37.280
I also want to get
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to Harris
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on the issue
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You know, Kamala
00:25:22.160
Harris is the
00:25:23.180
border czar.
00:25:24.120
Anyone with a
00:25:24.760
brain center knows
00:25:25.760
that's what they
00:25:26.640
called her.
00:25:27.220
We played the
00:25:27.840
montage on this
00:25:28.640
show several times
00:25:29.780
of the media and
00:25:31.660
liberal members of
00:25:33.560
the media calling
00:25:34.760
her the border czar.
00:25:36.760
Then it became the
00:25:38.140
inconvenient truth,
00:25:39.100
so they're like,
00:25:39.420
well, she never
00:25:40.000
really was the
00:25:40.780
border czar, and
00:25:41.500
we were like,
00:25:42.040
yes, she was.
00:25:42.680
You guys called
00:25:43.240
her that.
00:25:43.980
Here's when you
00:25:44.480
called her that.
00:25:45.460
But she was asked
00:25:46.560
another softball
00:25:47.480
question.
00:25:48.440
This was Dana
00:25:49.020
Bash and Harris.
00:25:50.700
...to my desk and
00:25:51.580
I would sign it.
00:25:52.480
Just one other
00:25:53.000
question about
00:25:53.820
something that you
00:25:55.280
said in 2019
00:25:56.720
when you first ran.
00:25:58.340
There was a debate.
00:25:59.000
You raised your
00:25:59.560
hand when asked
00:26:00.620
whether or not
00:26:01.880
the border should
00:26:03.240
be decriminalized.
00:26:05.480
Do you still
00:26:05.880
believe that?
00:26:07.400
I believe there
00:26:08.080
should be
00:26:08.380
consequence.
00:26:08.860
We have laws
00:26:09.800
that have to be
00:26:10.960
followed and
00:26:11.680
enforced, that
00:26:13.260
address and deal
00:26:14.420
with people who
00:26:15.080
cross our border
00:26:16.020
illegally, and there
00:26:17.700
should be consequence.
00:26:18.580
And let's be clear,
00:26:19.420
in this race, I'm the
00:26:20.980
only person who has
00:26:23.040
prosecuted transnational
00:26:25.340
criminal organizations
00:26:26.300
who are trafficking
00:26:27.040
guns, drugs, and
00:26:28.300
human beings.
00:26:29.200
I'm the only person in
00:26:30.740
this race who actually
00:26:32.360
served a border state
00:26:34.480
as attorney general to
00:26:35.640
enforce our laws, and
00:26:36.780
I would enforce our
00:26:37.880
laws as president
00:26:38.740
going forward.
00:26:39.500
I recognize the
00:26:40.380
problem.
00:26:41.560
Generally speaking...
00:26:42.760
So let me jump in
00:26:44.140
there.
00:26:44.320
Let me jump in there
00:26:45.000
and say a couple of
00:26:45.540
things.
00:26:45.800
Number one, her
00:26:47.460
statement there that
00:26:48.240
she's the only person
00:26:49.060
that has prosecuted
00:26:49.920
transnational border...
00:26:51.580
transnational gangs
00:26:52.920
is completely wrong.
00:26:54.520
Donald Trump was
00:26:55.100
president for four
00:26:55.840
years.
00:26:56.360
The Trump
00:26:57.080
administration
00:26:57.760
prosecuted drug
00:26:59.560
traffickers, human
00:27:00.560
traffickers, transnational
00:27:01.920
gangs over and over and
00:27:03.460
over again.
00:27:04.380
He had an entire
00:27:05.340
Department of Justice.
00:27:06.260
So her premise...
00:27:07.320
Now, she could say,
00:27:08.320
well, but I was the
00:27:09.120
lawyer.
00:27:09.960
Okay, when you were
00:27:11.140
attorney general, I'm
00:27:12.760
not aware of Kamala
00:27:13.620
actually going to
00:27:14.320
court.
00:27:14.620
If her argument was
00:27:15.380
she went to court,
00:27:16.340
I'm not aware of her
00:27:17.380
actually being personally
00:27:18.640
in court.
00:27:19.580
It's the same thing,
00:27:20.760
which is...
00:27:22.020
Except the difference
00:27:23.560
is the Trump
00:27:24.320
administration had
00:27:25.240
incredible success,
00:27:27.180
and Kamala's
00:27:28.200
position, she
00:27:29.120
repeatedly...
00:27:31.080
And let me say
00:27:32.280
something else.
00:27:32.700
I'm going to go back
00:27:33.140
to her position
00:27:33.660
in a second.
00:27:35.020
Dana Bash's
00:27:35.880
question, Kamala
00:27:37.340
didn't answer.
00:27:38.020
It's one of the
00:27:38.360
reasons this was...
00:27:39.480
It wasn't an
00:27:40.120
interview, but it
00:27:41.160
was also terrible.
00:27:43.760
Most of the
00:27:44.460
questions Dana Bash
00:27:45.440
asked, Kamala
00:27:47.340
didn't answer.
00:27:48.760
Do you still
00:27:49.860
support decriminalizing
00:27:51.640
crossing illegally
00:27:52.560
into this country?
00:27:53.340
She didn't answer
00:27:53.780
that at all.
00:27:54.820
She said there must
00:27:55.400
be consequences.
00:27:56.240
Okay, let me go
00:27:56.680
back.
00:27:57.400
You said it should
00:27:58.260
be decriminalized.
00:27:59.520
Do you still
00:28:00.000
support that?
00:28:00.640
Yes or no?
00:28:01.100
She didn't get
00:28:02.560
an answer to
00:28:03.140
that.
00:28:03.880
She also did
00:28:05.520
not get at all
00:28:06.960
into the
00:28:08.340
disastrous record.
00:28:09.620
So this entire
00:28:10.500
interview is
00:28:11.920
designed to let
00:28:13.320
Kamala run
00:28:14.580
away from Joe
00:28:15.540
Biden and her
00:28:16.420
own record
00:28:17.180
to pretend
00:28:19.560
that her record
00:28:20.620
does not exist.
00:28:21.780
and so there
00:28:25.060
wasn't a word
00:28:25.660
about under
00:28:27.340
your administration
00:28:29.200
11.5 million
00:28:30.300
illegal aliens
00:28:30.900
have come into
00:28:31.320
this country.
00:28:32.360
Under your
00:28:33.160
administration,
00:28:34.540
Barack Obama
00:28:36.020
used the power
00:28:37.440
of parole to
00:28:38.120
parole roughly
00:28:38.860
5,000 illegal
00:28:39.840
aliens a year to
00:28:40.600
release them into
00:28:41.100
the country.
00:28:41.600
Donald Trump
00:28:42.080
used the power
00:28:42.660
of parole to
00:28:43.680
parole roughly
00:28:45.000
5,000 illegal
00:28:45.880
immigrants a year
00:28:46.680
to release them
00:28:47.580
into this country.
00:28:48.380
Parole is an
00:28:48.900
extraordinary
00:28:49.500
discretion given
00:28:51.620
to the president.
00:28:52.880
Under Joe
00:28:53.440
Biden, your
00:28:54.100
administration,
00:28:55.100
you and Joe
00:28:55.860
Biden used
00:28:57.040
that to parole
00:28:57.880
over 800,000
00:29:00.160
illegal immigrants
00:29:00.920
a year over
00:29:01.720
and over and
00:29:02.400
over again.
00:29:03.140
Was that a
00:29:03.800
mistake?
00:29:04.380
Will you stop
00:29:05.260
doing that?
00:29:05.920
Was Joe
00:29:06.440
Biden wrong?
00:29:07.320
Did you disagree?
00:29:08.400
Did you ever
00:29:08.820
say you disagreed?
00:29:10.500
You were widely
00:29:12.160
reported to be
00:29:13.040
the border czar.
00:29:14.200
Did you have any
00:29:15.240
responsibility for
00:29:16.100
what was happening
00:29:16.800
at the border or
00:29:17.440
are you saying you
00:29:18.020
had no responsibility
00:29:18.920
whatsoever?
00:29:19.900
Like those would
00:29:20.980
be questions a
00:29:22.700
journalist would
00:29:23.820
ask.
00:29:24.380
Not a word of
00:29:24.940
that came out of
00:29:25.600
CNN's mouth.
00:29:26.920
Yeah, not one
00:29:27.880
single bit of it.
00:29:28.660
And then you go
00:29:29.260
back to the
00:29:29.920
policy.
00:29:30.500
She says I
00:29:31.200
would enforce
00:29:31.820
the law.
00:29:33.280
They haven't
00:29:34.080
enforced the
00:29:34.720
law the entire
00:29:35.780
time they've been
00:29:36.600
in office, which
00:29:37.300
goes back to the
00:29:38.200
bigger conversation
00:29:39.340
here about this
00:29:40.120
interview.
00:29:40.920
She said she's
00:29:41.960
going to come in
00:29:42.540
day one and fix
00:29:43.420
all these problems.
00:29:44.740
What's stopping
00:29:45.580
her from doing it
00:29:46.360
right now?
00:29:46.960
Clearly Joe
00:29:47.600
Biden's not running
00:29:48.460
the country.
00:29:49.040
And then she
00:29:49.940
says on the
00:29:50.800
border, she's the
00:29:51.800
damn border czar
00:29:52.680
unless she got
00:29:53.480
fired from that
00:29:54.220
job, which has
00:29:54.920
not been publicized.
00:29:56.660
Hold on a second.
00:29:58.300
Dana Bash starts
00:29:59.580
the border discussion
00:30:00.620
not by saying you're
00:30:02.580
the border czar, but
00:30:04.020
by saying you were
00:30:05.880
asked to address the
00:30:07.360
root causes of
00:30:08.760
migration.
00:30:09.940
Yeah.
00:30:10.500
in northern Central
00:30:12.740
America.
00:30:13.340
Literally, those are
00:30:15.160
the Kamala Harris
00:30:16.040
talking points.
00:30:16.980
That's what they
00:30:17.840
say.
00:30:18.880
That's Dana Bash's
00:30:19.900
question.
00:30:20.960
Hey, here's your
00:30:21.540
talking points on
00:30:22.320
this.
00:30:22.500
And she says, oh, I
00:30:23.560
did great things to
00:30:25.900
address the root
00:30:26.720
causes.
00:30:28.880
It there is.
00:30:31.020
By the way, let's
00:30:33.100
go back again.
00:30:33.760
I actually think the
00:30:34.420
Tim Russert contrast
00:30:35.360
is is enormously like
00:30:37.320
Tim Russert was the
00:30:38.840
most feared interviewer
00:30:40.080
in in journalism
00:30:41.120
because he would have
00:30:42.120
a politician on and
00:30:43.800
he would take your
00:30:44.660
prior statements and
00:30:45.580
your prior record and
00:30:46.400
he put your record in
00:30:47.180
front of you over and
00:30:47.900
over and over and
00:30:48.500
over again.
00:30:48.820
It was the gold
00:30:49.260
standard.
00:30:50.260
In this instance,
00:30:51.600
Anna Bash didn't
00:30:52.280
ask.
00:30:53.180
Madam Vice President,
00:30:54.500
the Inspector General
00:30:55.340
of the Department of
00:30:56.140
HHS found that your
00:30:57.680
administration lost
00:30:59.480
320,000 children.
00:31:03.360
What should the
00:31:03.880
American people think
00:31:04.920
of your administration
00:31:05.720
losing 320,000?
00:31:07.760
Do you know where
00:31:08.740
they are?
00:31:09.300
What are you doing
00:31:09.920
to find them?
00:31:10.840
Have you done
00:31:11.280
anything to find
00:31:12.040
them?
00:31:12.640
How many of those
00:31:13.500
children right now
00:31:14.740
are being sexually
00:31:16.080
abused?
00:31:17.060
How many of them
00:31:17.840
are trapped in
00:31:19.080
horribly abusive
00:31:19.940
situations?
00:31:21.120
Do you take any
00:31:21.880
responsibility for
00:31:22.820
that?
00:31:23.540
Like that would be
00:31:25.000
normal questioning
00:31:27.420
that a journalist
00:31:28.480
would ask.
00:31:29.560
So, of course,
00:31:30.620
because there was
00:31:31.420
not a journalist in
00:31:32.340
the room, none of
00:31:33.500
those questions
00:31:34.060
happened.
00:31:35.120
When you look at
00:31:36.240
this interview and
00:31:37.240
it obviously depends
00:31:38.460
on who you talk
00:31:39.220
to, right?
00:31:39.760
You go and look
00:31:40.660
at conservative
00:31:41.260
headlines and it's
00:31:42.320
like train wreck.
00:31:43.820
CNN pushes Kamala
00:31:44.980
Harris hard on
00:31:45.860
issues, another
00:31:46.600
headline says.
00:31:47.920
Harris unprepared,
00:31:49.180
no good answers.
00:31:50.900
Walt's hit on
00:31:51.840
stolen valor.
00:31:53.020
VP defends
00:31:53.900
Bidenomics fails to
00:31:55.520
explain why she did
00:31:56.860
not lower prices.
00:31:58.320
I mean, the
00:31:58.760
headlines, my point
00:31:59.760
is, are all over
00:32:00.680
the place.
00:32:01.240
But when Bidenomics
00:32:03.360
is a great example,
00:32:04.960
she referred to it
00:32:06.240
as good work,
00:32:07.640
Senator.
00:32:08.000
It's good work.
00:32:09.320
Really?
00:32:09.760
Like Bidenomics,
00:32:10.700
which has been a
00:32:11.460
disaster, she says,
00:32:13.460
no, no, no, it's
00:32:14.140
not really a disaster.
00:32:15.680
It's pretty good work.
00:32:16.960
You maintain
00:32:17.480
Bidenomics is a
00:32:19.340
success.
00:32:19.920
I maintain that
00:32:21.360
when we do the
00:32:22.300
work of bringing
00:32:22.940
down prescription
00:32:23.600
medication for the
00:32:24.520
American people,
00:32:25.280
including capping
00:32:26.060
the cost of the
00:32:27.240
annual cost of
00:32:28.100
prescription medication
00:32:28.840
for seniors at
00:32:29.540
$2,000, when we do
00:32:31.480
what we did in the
00:32:32.600
first year of being
00:32:33.400
in office to extend
00:32:35.180
the child tax credit
00:32:36.300
so that we cut child
00:32:37.420
poverty in America by
00:32:38.640
over 50 percent, when
00:32:40.400
we do what we have
00:32:41.580
done to invest in the
00:32:43.160
American people and
00:32:44.160
bringing manufacturing
00:32:45.360
back to the United
00:32:46.360
States so that we
00:32:47.440
created over 800,000
00:32:49.120
new manufacturing jobs,
00:32:50.840
bringing business back
00:32:52.220
to America, what we
00:32:53.740
have done to improve
00:32:55.140
the supply chain so
00:32:56.180
we're not relying on
00:32:57.640
foreign governments,
00:32:58.840
to supply American
00:33:00.200
families with their
00:33:01.000
basic needs, I'll say
00:33:02.780
that that's good work.
00:33:04.060
There's more to do,
00:33:05.100
but that's good work.
00:33:06.780
I mean, where do you
00:33:09.460
even start?
00:33:10.160
Grocery prices?
00:33:11.160
Home prices?
00:33:12.160
Food?
00:33:12.360
I mean, where do you
00:33:13.480
want to go with this?
00:33:14.680
But let me give my
00:33:16.280
bottom line.
00:33:18.100
This interview did
00:33:20.120
absolutely nothing to
00:33:21.620
impact the presidential
00:33:22.640
election in November.
00:33:24.800
The Kamala Harris
00:33:25.640
campaign is high-fiving.
00:33:27.180
They're thrilled.
00:33:28.840
Because now they have
00:33:30.000
an excuse not to do
00:33:31.000
another interview for
00:33:31.940
at least another month
00:33:32.800
because they'll say they
00:33:34.180
did an interview.
00:33:34.900
So they will quickly
00:33:36.480
rush her back to Joe
00:33:37.680
Biden's basement and
00:33:38.600
hide her there.
00:33:40.340
And all this was was a
00:33:42.740
campaign commercial.
00:33:43.740
What she's saying there,
00:33:44.880
she's reading their
00:33:45.520
talking points.
00:33:47.660
It, the headlines you
00:33:49.800
read, I don't know what
00:33:50.740
outlets they are, but I'm
00:33:51.820
going to guess that
00:33:52.420
everyone that says
00:33:53.180
train wreck is a right of
00:33:55.280
center outlet.
00:33:55.780
You've got Breitbart and
00:33:56.880
Fox News and all of
00:33:58.220
those.
00:33:58.920
And you know what?
00:33:59.580
So what?
00:34:00.060
The people reading that
00:34:00.960
aren't going to vote for
00:34:01.620
her anyway.
00:34:02.220
Like, like, I don't think
00:34:03.680
there was a single thing in
00:34:05.380
this interview that moved
00:34:07.700
even one voter to change
00:34:11.200
how they're going to vote in
00:34:12.160
November.
00:34:13.560
And if there was, I'm sorry
00:34:16.620
to say it moved them
00:34:17.800
towards Kamala Harris,
00:34:19.520
because if there's a voter
00:34:20.740
who's a naive and ignorant
00:34:22.940
voter who doesn't know
00:34:24.020
anything, they listened
00:34:26.160
to 20 some odd minutes
00:34:28.680
of her reading campaign
00:34:30.780
talking points.
00:34:33.580
Look, foreign policy.
00:34:35.980
On foreign policy,
00:34:38.980
okay, there was no question
00:34:39.860
about Ukraine and the
00:34:40.740
disaster that the
00:34:41.520
administration has done on
00:34:42.560
that.
00:34:42.940
There was no question about
00:34:43.900
Afghanistan and the
00:34:44.840
disaster there.
00:34:45.760
There was no question about
00:34:46.720
why Joe Biden denied that
00:34:48.900
13 servicemen and women were
00:34:50.300
killed in Afghanistan due to
00:34:51.540
their utter incompetence in
00:34:52.720
the disgrace of this
00:34:54.140
administration.
00:34:54.720
None of those were
00:34:55.200
questions.
00:34:56.060
The question was instead
00:34:57.200
about Israel.
00:34:58.660
And what did it do?
00:34:59.540
It gave Kamala Harris a
00:35:00.620
chance to say October 7th
00:35:02.460
was terrible and to say,
00:35:03.600
I will always stand for
00:35:05.060
Israel.
00:35:05.540
And Dana Bash asked,
00:35:06.760
as president, will you cut
00:35:09.100
off weapons to Israel?
00:35:11.320
And Kamala Harris refuses
00:35:13.700
to answer.
00:35:14.240
She says, Israel has a right
00:35:16.020
to defend itself.
00:35:16.740
Doesn't answer the question
00:35:17.560
at all.
00:35:18.800
Okay, Dana, here's a crazy
00:35:20.920
question.
00:35:21.460
Joe Biden right now, this
00:35:23.780
instant, your administration
00:35:25.320
has frozen weapons to
00:35:26.920
Israel, is not sending the
00:35:28.480
weapons to Israel that
00:35:29.340
Congress appropriated.
00:35:30.580
Do you agree with that?
00:35:31.740
Is Joe Biden wrong to refuse
00:35:34.260
to send weapons to Israel?
00:35:36.280
That would be a real
00:35:37.500
question.
00:35:38.020
So, of course, Dana Bash
00:35:38.880
didn't ask that.
00:35:39.480
She also didn't ask, Madam
00:35:41.820
Vice President, you and Joe
00:35:43.200
Biden sent hundreds of
00:35:44.200
millions of dollars to Gaza.
00:35:45.740
You did so after your
00:35:47.280
administration concluded
00:35:48.420
that it was likely that that
00:35:49.540
money would be used by Hamas
00:35:50.780
to carry out terrorism.
00:35:52.520
In light of October 7th, in
00:35:54.020
light of the determination
00:35:55.120
that it was highly likely,
00:35:56.480
that was your administration's
00:35:57.740
determination, it would be
00:35:58.920
used for terrorism.
00:35:59.760
Was it a mistake to send
00:36:01.200
hundreds of millions of
00:36:01.980
dollars that were highly
00:36:02.820
likely to be used by
00:36:03.720
terrorism?
00:36:04.400
By the way, you want to
00:36:05.300
talk foreign policy, Iran.
00:36:06.780
Your administration, Madam
00:36:07.860
Vice President, has sent over
00:36:10.000
$100 billion to Iran.
00:36:14.000
Iran provides 90% of the
00:36:15.600
funding for Hamas, 90% of
00:36:17.000
the funding for Hezbollah.
00:36:18.280
In a very real sense, the
00:36:19.560
death squads on October 7th
00:36:21.200
was funded by your
00:36:23.340
administration.
00:36:24.180
Do you regret that?
00:36:25.180
Was that a mistake?
00:36:26.620
Madam Vice President, why do
00:36:28.420
you continue today to refuse
00:36:31.240
to enforce the oil sanctions
00:36:32.540
against Iran?
00:36:33.580
Why are you allowing Iran to
00:36:35.280
sell 2 million barrels a day
00:36:38.120
of oil?
00:36:38.900
When you became Vice
00:36:40.040
President, they were selling
00:36:41.020
300,000 barrels a day.
00:36:43.020
It was crushing the Iranian
00:36:44.340
economy.
00:36:44.940
And Madam Vice President, by
00:36:46.720
the way, on fracking, you
00:36:47.700
said a minute ago you
00:36:48.520
weren't going to ban
00:36:49.080
fracking.
00:36:49.860
Why is it that you're so
00:36:51.200
eager to support oil and
00:36:52.620
gas production in Iran, led
00:36:54.780
by a theocratic lunatic who
00:36:56.360
chanced death to America, but
00:36:58.080
you and your administration
00:36:59.820
have put in regulation after
00:37:01.240
regulation, hammering oil and
00:37:03.180
gas jobs in the United
00:37:04.140
States?
00:37:05.040
Those are questions an actual
00:37:07.260
journalist would ask.
00:37:08.560
There's only one moment in
00:37:10.320
this whole debate, Senator,
00:37:11.880
or I should say this
00:37:12.900
television interview.
00:37:14.940
Um, that I think that the
00:37:17.440
Trump campaign could really
00:37:19.620
use to their advantage in a
00:37:21.480
TV ad.
00:37:22.520
And I want to play it for you
00:37:24.060
and get your thoughts, because
00:37:25.100
there was this moment for me
00:37:27.620
where I was like, OK, maybe
00:37:28.860
this is useful.
00:37:29.720
So you have been vice
00:37:31.060
president for three and a
00:37:32.040
half years.
00:37:33.160
The steps that you're talking
00:37:34.420
about now, why haven't you
00:37:36.520
done them already?
00:37:37.920
Well, first of all, we had to
00:37:39.460
recover as an economy and we
00:37:41.420
have done that.
00:37:41.920
And I'm very proud of the
00:37:43.060
work that we have done that
00:37:44.120
has brought inflation down to
00:37:45.480
less than 3 percent.
00:37:46.860
The work that we have done to
00:37:48.020
cap the cost of insulin at $35 a
00:37:50.380
month for seniors.
00:37:51.500
Donald Trump said he was going
00:37:52.500
to do a number of things,
00:37:53.420
including allowing Medicare to
00:37:54.940
negotiate drug prices.
00:37:55.880
Never happened.
00:37:57.060
We did it.
00:37:57.720
So now, as I travel in the state
00:38:00.540
of Georgia and around our
00:38:01.640
country, the number of seniors
00:38:02.960
that have benefited, I've met, I
00:38:05.460
was in Nevada recently, a
00:38:07.380
grandmother who showed me her
00:38:09.860
receipts.
00:38:11.240
And before we kept the cost of
00:38:13.080
insulin for seniors at $35 a
00:38:14.860
month, she was paying hundreds of
00:38:16.280
dollars, up to thousands of
00:38:17.840
dollars a month for her insulin.
00:38:19.700
She's not doing that anymore.
00:38:21.820
I mean, that's the, that might be
00:38:24.600
your only moment where you could
00:38:26.040
say, okay, maybe we can make a
00:38:28.740
campaign out of this that why
00:38:30.480
didn't you do what you say you're
00:38:33.000
going to do day one now?
00:38:35.240
I'm not with you on that.
00:38:36.340
I actually think Dana Bash gave
00:38:39.440
her a perfect opportunity.
00:38:40.880
Give me your talking point.
00:38:42.240
So, so the only questions that
00:38:44.240
she had that were sort of pretend
00:38:45.640
questions when she asked Tim
00:38:47.680
Waltz about stolen valor, it was a
00:38:50.100
softball for him to give a speech
00:38:52.640
about how much, how important
00:38:54.200
military service is and how
00:38:56.000
much he loves America.
00:38:57.380
When she, he, she asked her that
00:38:59.960
question, look, it's such an
00:39:01.840
obvious question that it was sort
00:39:03.260
of like, what is your talking
00:39:05.580
point in response to this?
00:39:07.140
And that whole riff there, if you
00:39:09.360
are a voter who's not paying much
00:39:12.120
attention, who doesn't know the
00:39:13.100
record, that riff sounds pretty
00:39:15.020
good.
00:39:15.360
Okay.
00:39:15.680
So we had a pandemic, you had to
00:39:16.900
deal with that.
00:39:17.660
And, and then, Hey, we did this
00:39:19.500
thing on insulin.
00:39:20.200
I'm not sure what the thing on
00:39:21.520
insulin is.
00:39:22.200
See it that the person listening
00:39:23.820
might be saying, but, but you
00:39:25.880
told me about a woman who had
00:39:26.900
really high receipts and then they
00:39:28.120
went down.
00:39:28.740
So, wow.
00:39:29.160
Okay.
00:39:29.340
Apparently you did something.
00:39:31.720
That whole riff is a prepared
00:39:33.860
riff.
00:39:35.260
That is their defense.
00:39:37.080
And, and, and there is, there was
00:39:41.020
nothing actually calling to account
00:39:43.700
for the actual record, the disaster
00:39:47.580
of the record.
00:39:48.920
But by the way, going back to the
00:39:51.140
border, her statements were not
00:39:54.180
just, not just the statement you
00:39:57.020
raised your hand and said that you
00:39:58.340
would decriminalize illegal
00:40:00.160
immigration.
00:40:00.620
You've also said you would abolish
00:40:02.060
ICE.
00:40:02.500
Do you still want to abolish ICE?
00:40:03.800
You've also said the wall was
00:40:05.180
ridiculous.
00:40:05.780
Do you still want to do that?
00:40:06.700
Well, now you've said you want to
00:40:08.180
build the wall.
00:40:10.100
You know, her position, you said,
00:40:13.080
and by the way, a real interview
00:40:14.720
would, would play this.
00:40:16.580
You said on day one, you would shut
00:40:20.100
down every ICE detention center and
00:40:21.980
you would not detain illegal
00:40:23.280
immigrants.
00:40:24.300
Abolish ICE.
00:40:24.640
Do you still believe that?
00:40:26.420
Abolish ICE.
00:40:26.880
Yeah.
00:40:27.100
But, but also shut down the
00:40:28.860
detention centers.
00:40:30.220
You know, you know what was nowhere
00:40:31.480
in the question?
00:40:34.440
Jocelyn Nungary, Lakin Riley,
00:40:36.700
Rachel Morin, like a real question
00:40:39.620
would be, Lakin Riley was killed by an
00:40:43.040
illegal immigrant that you and Joe
00:40:44.820
Biden released.
00:40:45.620
Was that a mistake to release that
00:40:46.820
immigrant?
00:40:48.080
Rachel Morin was raped and murdered by
00:40:49.900
an illegal immigrant that you and Joe
00:40:51.320
Biden released.
00:40:51.980
Was that a mistake to release that
00:40:53.220
illegal immigrant?
00:40:53.780
Jocelyn Nungary was, was, was, was, was
00:40:56.160
raped and killed by two illegal
00:40:57.940
immigrants that you and Joe Biden
00:40:59.160
released.
00:40:59.540
Was that a mistake to release that
00:41:00.740
immigrant?
00:41:01.800
How many is enough?
00:41:02.900
Like, like, like that actually would
00:41:04.760
be laying out.
00:41:06.900
And have you changed anything?
00:41:08.280
Why do you continue to release
00:41:10.260
illegal immigrants who go on every
00:41:13.120
day to murder Americans, to rape
00:41:15.700
women, to, to violate children?
00:41:18.100
You know, we talked about the previous
00:41:20.360
podcast, the, the, they just halted
00:41:22.880
their plan.
00:41:24.320
Your administration flew into America
00:41:27.220
over 300,000 illegal immigrants a
00:41:29.580
year, flew them in.
00:41:30.940
They didn't cross the border.
00:41:31.900
You flew them in from Haiti, from
00:41:33.860
Cuba, from Nicaragua and Venezuela.
00:41:36.300
One of the illegal immigrants you flew
00:41:38.060
in, you flew into Boston, you released
00:41:39.800
him in Boston and he, he raped a 15
00:41:42.560
year old girl with severe mental
00:41:44.840
disabilities.
00:41:45.480
Was that a mistake to fly into this
00:41:48.160
country, an illegal immigrant who
00:41:50.080
raped a teenage girl?
00:41:51.920
You know what?
00:41:52.460
Those are hard questions for her to
00:41:54.320
answer.
00:41:55.360
That's why she doesn't do interviews,
00:41:57.700
but she still doesn't do interviews.
00:42:00.620
This was not an interview.
00:42:02.040
They sat there and knew Dana Bash is
00:42:05.380
part of the campaign.
00:42:06.980
Just like if she was sitting there with
00:42:09.660
Corrine Jean-Pierre to do a fake
00:42:11.740
interview, they'd know they would never
00:42:13.260
get those questions because those are
00:42:14.700
questions that are a real problem.
00:42:16.960
They knew they'd never get them from
00:42:18.340
Dana Bash either.
00:42:20.280
Yeah.
00:42:20.740
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00:42:22.300
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It was an interesting list that was thrown
00:44:21.260
out right after the interview.
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Trump and Vance put this out, the campaign.
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It said, here are all the things Kamala Harris
00:44:28.220
failed to address tonight with CNN.
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Kamala support for ending cash bail for violent
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criminals, Kamala's fundraising for the Minnesota
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Freedom Fund, which freed rioters, Kamala's
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tie-breaking vote for the American Rescue Plan,
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which economists say fueled inflation, Kamala's
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00:44:47.420
comparing policing to slavery, Kamala's repeated
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praise of Bidenomics, Kamala's support for Medicare
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for All, a socialist takeover of our health care system.
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And that's just some of the highlights here.
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Is that really what this election is going to be
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about?
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And is that what he has to bring out in the debate
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that's going to be coming up fairly soon?
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Yes.
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Look, if this election is on Kamala's record and
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Donald Trump's record, if this election is on the
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issues, we win.
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If it's not, if it is all about hopey, changey joy and
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Trump derangement syndrome, then Kamala could win.
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And the media is going to spend billions of dollars trying
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to cover up all of the substantive issues.
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Look, you want to see what propaganda is like.
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Look at the last two questions Dana Bash has.
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Now, understand, this is the first interview in over a
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month of the Democrat nominee to be president.
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So she has been hiding from interviews for more than a
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month.
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Like, every question is precious real estate.
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Her last two questions, she turns to Tim Waltz and says,
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oh, there was an amazing image of your son at the
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convention, so excited, saying, I'm proud of my dad.
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They play the video and he says, oh, I'm so, that was an
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amazing moment of his dad.
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I feel great.
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Like, cue the music.
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Could we put some kittens and puppies around him?
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You know, maybe hearts like he's a soft, tender dad.
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And then, that's not enough.
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Then she turns to Kamala.
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Oh, there was a picture from the convention of your niece,
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an adorable little girl with two pigtails.
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And the picture shows her looking at you speaking, gazing
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adoringly.
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It was inspirational.
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It's a moment.
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Oh, Kamala.
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I mean, this is not journalism.
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This is, Karine Jean-Pierre would not have gushed more.
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If it was the campaign putting out a fake documentary,
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the fake documentary would have closed with those two questions.
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And the image, in fact, they would have faded out on the image of
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the little girl with pigtails gazing at Kamala as an inspirational hero.
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That was CNN's objective.
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And that's a lot of things.
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But you know what?
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It ain't.
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It ain't journalism.
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Yeah.
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