CNN Insists ＂Who can tell the Motive？＂ of Charlie Kirk's Murderer plus ＂Loving＂ Texts between the Murderer & His Boyfriend
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Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) went on CNN to defend his friend, Charlie Kirk, who was shot and killed by a transgender man named Gavin Long, who has been charged with the murder of Charlie and the attempted murder of his girlfriend.
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It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
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And just so you guys know, we are doing almost every episode now on YouTube as well.
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So if you want to watch this show, you can do it on YouTube as well.
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This episode we're doing right now is on YouTube and on audio downloads wherever you get your
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But we're certainly very, very, very excited about that.
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Senator, we've got a lot to chat about tonight, including you going into the lion's den where
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At first, I got a text from someone that said, hey, what bet did Ted Cruz lose to go on CNN
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Well, tonight I went on CNN with Caitlin Collins.
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And I did so because CNN has been pushing so much misinformation in the wake of Charlie
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Kirk's assassination that I wanted to go on and push back.
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And they've been big on the whole both sides-ism that it's really both sides.
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It's Republicans and Democrats that are engaging in violence.
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It's Republicans and Democrats that engage in hateful, violent rhetoric.
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On our podcast just two days ago, we broke that down at length.
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Well, tonight I went on CNN to battle with Caitlin Collins.
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She had a political narrative and she was going to stick with it.
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And you're going to see the back and forth that we had.
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We're also going to play what was released earlier this evening, which is the text exchanges
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between Charlie's murderer and his transgender boyfriend.
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He breaks down the details of what was involved in the aftermath of the shooting.
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And we're also going to talk about how ABC News gushed about it, treating the two of
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The two of these sick individuals talking about how excited they were to have just murdered
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And it's hard to believe it's been nearly two years ago since the terrorists that murdered
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more than 1,200 innocent Israelis and took 250 hostages actually happened.
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Today, it seems as if the cries of the dead and the dying have been drowned out by the
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And the most brutal attack on Jewish people since the Holocaust has been forgotten already
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And that's by design for many around the world.
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Yet the world looks away, and we still need to help those and shine a light in the darkness.
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It's a movement of love and support that I want you to get involved in for the people
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And it's organized by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.
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On October the 5th, it's just a few weeks away, literally millions across America will prayerfully
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plant an Israeli flag in honor and solidarity with the victims of October the 7th of 2023
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And you can be a part of this movement as well.
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Your church can be a part of this movement as well.
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If you want to get more information about how you can join the Flags of Fellowship movement,
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And you can get what you need, the resources to stand with Israel on this important day
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And you can also get your church involved as so many churches around the country are now
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Now, what's interesting about this interview that you did, Senator, is actually the fact
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Typically, there's a good chance you guys would have been.
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Caitlin was in the UK for the presidential trip there.
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What was not delayed is her anger at you and what you were saying and the yelling at you.
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Even across the pond, she's still on point with that one.
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And listen, Ben, for this kind of interview, I will almost always insist that it be in
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Because if I know that someone is going to be an antagonistic partisan hack, then I want
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I agreed to do this even though she was in the United Kingdom and there was about a two-second
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A downside of this interview is their extended portions were basically yelling over each other
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I actually thought she'd want to do a decent interview and so she wouldn't just scream at
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If you've got a delay, you ask a question, you get an answer.
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That's how actually you and I have done interviews.
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We've interviewed people live from Israel, from Jerusalem, right after October 7th, halfway
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And if you actually want to interview someone, you don't scream and interrupt them.
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Well, Caitlin has been complicit in CNN's propaganda.
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They have been misleading and lying to the American people.
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She's been asking me, her show's been asking me to go on for some time.
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I decided to go on today because I think what they've been doing after the Charlie Kirk
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assassination has been incredibly dishonest and harmful.
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And I had hoped that we would have a conversation as mature adults.
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And by the way, the number one line that just people, so they understand the lie that's
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been told, and it's been propaganda 101 on CNN, is that we don't know the motive of the
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shooter, and you're insane if you act like you know the motive.
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Across all of their shows, by the way, like all of their shows are like lots of stuff in
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So we're going to play the entire interview.
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And there's some fireworks and there's some moments where we're yelling over each other.
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But I think this is really important to push back on the dishonesty from CNN and MSNBC and
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My interview tonight with Caitlin Collins on CNN.
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And Senator, I think you've probably been part of some theatrical moments of your own
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Obviously, it got quite contentious in points today.
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But what you were arguing there and what you were talking there about with the director
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Cash Patel was actually something President Trump himself talked about five years ago when
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he said the U.S. was going to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization.
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You and Senator Cassidy had actually introduced a resolution calling for that one year before.
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And I'm urging the Department of Justice and the FBI and the entire administration to
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And more broadly, what I'm urging them to do at the hearing today, what I urge Director
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Patel to do is follow the money, that much of this violence that we've seen is not organic,
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So the Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots all over the country, there was real money
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The anti-Israel, anti-Semitic riots on college campuses, there was real money behind that.
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The open border riots we saw in L.A. and across the country, there's real money behind
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I'm not the only person who noticed that at the anti-Semitic protests on college campuses,
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And so what I'm urging the Department of Justice to do is look at who's funding it.
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And indeed, I've introduced legislation to aid in that.
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And what that legislation would do is very simple.
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It adds rioting to the list of predicate offenses under RICO, and that would enable the Department
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of Justice to use RICO, a very powerful tool for going after organized crime, not just to
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go after the people committing specific acts of violence, but to go after those who are
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And I think that would have a massive effect, pulling back and limiting this violence.
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Yeah, but can I ask you on just the Antifa part of this, what existing federal law would
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give the president or the State Department the authority to be able to designate a domestic
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Well, what I've called for, they're clearly carrying out acts of terrorism.
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They're organizing, they're engaged in direct acts of violence.
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And indeed, one of the things that I asked Director Patel is, what evidence is there that
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there are other people who had foreknowledge of this assassin's assassination of Charlie
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We know that he was engaged in Reddit conversations with others.
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And we know that the shell casings that he used in the rifle had Antifa slogans on them
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And it appears from what's been reporting that there were extensive discussions in various
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Reddit and Discord organizations to the extent others had foreknowledge and aided and assisted.
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That may well be a manifestation of Antifa violence or transgender violence.
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We've seen a disproportionate incident of transgender violence as well.
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And so examining what groups potentially are behind these acts of violence, I think it is
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overwhelmingly clear things like the anti-Semitic protest had money behind it.
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With respect to Charlie Kirk's murder, that is not determined yet, but I think it should
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As Todd Blanche, the Deputy Attorney General, just said, right now they don't have any evidence
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But on the bullet casings, I don't remember there being a transgender one on there.
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I remember him saying, there was one that said, if you could read this, you're gay.
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But on what you just said there about investigating groups and who's funding, if there is funding.
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There's a reference to, do you see my bulge, which is what I'm told is an online meme for
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And Director Patel testified that the murderer here was living with his romantic partner who
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was a transgender man transitioning to being a woman.
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And so you have both the shell casing that directly references transgenderism.
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And in fact, Charlie Kirk was murdered moments after he was asked a question about transgender
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And so do we have conclusive proof at this case?
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Some of the most disturbing polling numbers that I see are the number of Democrats who
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believe that this left-wing activist was somehow a Republican.
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I mean, that really shows the media not doing the job they should be doing.
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Okay, Senator, but one moment, because you said a lot there.
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Obviously, we've heard what the governor's had to say, what the FBI director said today.
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He just happened to fire the gun in celebration.
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And I said law enforcement hasn't laid out a direct motive.
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They've laid out a lot of evidence here of these messages and what the shooter said to
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They've said that he's a left-wing activist who hated Charlie Kirk.
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Senator, with all due respect, you know exactly what I'm saying.
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I'm saying that law enforcement has not put a specific motive.
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You know that there's a difference in what they're putting in a legal argument than what
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And we're not even arguing about the facts here.
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Let me answer your statement because what you said is factually false.
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With all due respect, you're putting a lot of statements that I did not say.
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We just laid out the facts in the opening of the show of what we want from prosecutors today.
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And we just spoke to the Deputy Attorney General.
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They have not said a concrete motive of exactly what it was.
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And CNN should not be engaged in misinformation.
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Have you seen the polling that shows the vast majority of Democrats believe this murderer
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Well, let me get back to my questions, though, Senator, because the question here...
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...what you were saying about investigations that you'd like to see.
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Senator, I'm the one asking the questions here.
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I understand that you want to say things that are factually false, and then you don't
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Do you believe that right-wing groups also need to be investigated?
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I don't know what your question is because we have a delay because you're in England,
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You said that you believe that left-wing groups should be investigated.
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You want to know where the financing is coming from for protests.
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Do you believe that they should also be looking into right-wing groups as well,
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or do you believe it should only be limited to that?
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Look, I believe anyone engaged in acts of violence should be prosecuted and go to jail.
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But I will say there has been an enormous amount, and CNN has been guilty of this, of both sidesism,
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And understand, yes, there is some violence on both sides, but it is the left that overwhelmingly
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You look at Blue Sky, and it is a cesspool of leftists celebrating the murder of Charlie
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You look at recent polling that shows over 50% of Democrats saying violence against Elon Musk
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You look at Democrats who do things like what Kamala Harris did, of giving money and urging
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people to give money to bail out violent rioters and Antifa riots.
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It is only one side that justifies this violence.
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My view is, if you commit acts of violence, you should be prosecuted.
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Anyone funding acts of violence, we should go after.
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I think the argument that people have been talking about recently is what's going on with
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I think people have raised that because there have been other acts of political violence
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I mean, we've seen that with a lawmaker who was killed in Minnesota this summer alongside
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We've seen it with the break-in and the political itself.
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We've also seen it with Justice Brett Kavanaugh and others.
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If you're going to say facts, you need to get your facts right.
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The assassin there was not a right-wing assassin acting on a political motive.
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The assassin there was someone who had been an appointee of Tim Waltz, and he was a deranged
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And yes, there are deranged lunatics who attack people both right and left.
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But if you look at murders carried out for political agendas, they are overwhelmingly
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on the left, whether it is the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the two assassination attempts
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of Donald Trump, the assassination attempt on Brett Kavanaugh, over and over and over
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again, whether it was the congressional shooter who came to Washington to the baseball game
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and said, I want to find congressional base Republicans to attack.
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We've noted all of those instances, but we're also noting that there have been others, including
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the Democratic lawmakers, who were targeted just a couple of months ago.
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So I think that is the point that people have made here.
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But it wasn't by a Republican for a political agenda, and by the way, that lunatic should
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So what I'm not doing is what leftists are doing.
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It was horrible, and that violent criminal should be prosecuted and going to jail.
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You would have a point if I said, gosh, let's set up a bail fund for that murderer.
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Do you agree that on Blue Sky, there are thousands of leftists celebrating and reveling in the
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Senator, I don't think that anyone should celebrate someone's murder, regardless of what
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And I don't think Blue Sky is representative of how people feel.
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If you celebrate it, I think that's wrong, and I think that's evil.
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Representative of leftists, it's only left-wingers are on it.
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I got to tell you, that was just one of those moments where she's like, and we're done.
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And I'm glad you, by the way, didn't let up on the facts there at the end, because you're
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Look, I got to say, and there was a time, I mean, Caitlin started out as a reporter for
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I think she's rolled tide, if I remember correctly.
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And, and I don't know if she drank the Kool-Aid.
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I don't know if she just sold out, but, but her unwillingness.
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So number one, when I asked her, have you seen the polling that the vast majority of Democrats
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believe that Charlie Kirk's assassin was a right-wing MAGA Republican?
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She knows that, but she wouldn't answer it because the reason that the vast majority of
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Democrats believe that is because CNN is lying to them.
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And it goes right to the heart of their propaganda.
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When I asked her, are you aware that on Blue Sky, now Blue Sky is this sort of left-wing
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Twitter that they set up to say, let's just have lefties communicate.
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Blue Sky is this cesspool of leftists celebrating this murder.
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But if she admitted that she would have to admit that this is not the fault of both sides
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It is leftists who are rationalizing this, who are justifying this, who are celebrating
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A point that I was going to make, there's also a real difference between how the left
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and right reacts when something like this happens.
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When George Floyd was killed, leftists rioted all over this country.
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At least 19 people were killed in Antifa and Black Lives Matter riots all over the country.
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In contrast, when Charlie Kirk was killed, a great American, what did conservatives do?
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We stood up and we held candles and we prayed and we honored his life.
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And by the way, left-wing radicals came and tried to disrupt those prayer vigils by screaming
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There is a difference and CNN is all in in propaganda and denying that difference.
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I want to take a moment to talk about personal safety.
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You know that I've actually used my firearm to save my life when I was a target of a gang
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But for many people that are listening or family members, you may not feel comfortable carrying
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You still need to be able to protect yourselves.
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And in times of danger, you're going to want to have something.
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I have given these to countless family members.
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It is a handheld pistol that fires both kinetic rounds and chemical irritants to separate you
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And I'm here today with Josh Sherrard from Burna.
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Josh, many of us just saw that video footage of the recent mob attack of a man and a woman
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Josh, many of us saw the video footage of the recent mob attack of a man and a woman in
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Can you share a little more about what happened?
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And could a less lethal weapon like the Burna launcher be used in a situation like this to
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And unfortunately, after a jazz festival, a man was attacked by a mob of individuals that
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And unfortunately, he was unable to defend himself despite other people trying to help.
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This is one of those instances where clearly these people are looking for an easy target.
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The trick here is to make yourself a hard target.
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Have a way to defend yourself to facilitate that escape.
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You know, depending on the legality, you may or may not be able to carry a gun in this
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So you need to have a tool to make sure you can defend yourself.
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It's legal in all 50 states and make sure you can make it home safe.
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And why wouldn't the victim in this case just want to pull a gun on these suspects?
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Depending on where you are, you may not even be able to carry a gun or maybe coming from
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a private event where a gun may not be illegal as well.
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And then two, in order to pull a gun, you need to understand that there has to be a reasonable
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expectation that there's going to be death or serious bodily injury caused.
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So in this case, a less lethal tool is perfect.
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It can be used early to prevent further harm because it's such a reduced amount of force.
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You can get more information for you or your family members on how they can protect themselves
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And by the way, Senator, let's also go to the other lie.
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And you mentioned all of the things that conservatives do differently than liberals.
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It said when when Democrats are angry, you get BLM riots, Antifa, church shootings, Trump
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assassination, Charlie Kirk assassination, pro-life pregnancy centers are put on fire.
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Tesla vandalism attacks against ICE agents, attacks against police, attacks against federal
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We have prayer vigils and we clean up profanity that is put on bridges.
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I for people that don't know what happened Sunday.
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And then you saw online, I'm assuming we haven't even talked about this online.
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I think you must have seen the picture that someone had put up on where the overpass is
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not far from where you live and I live, F Charlie Kirk.
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And you just said, all right, I'm going to go paint over it.
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And you did it and then put it on the Internet.
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This was on Highway 59 in Houston, right in the middle of Houston.
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And where this happened was about a mile from my house.
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For anyone from Houston, it was right at the Shepard exit.
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And I saw on Twitter the image of someone had spray painted F Charlie Kirk.
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And so I decided just that afternoon, I went down and I could tell where it was from the
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And I went down with some paint and a roller and I just covered it up and I painted over
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And then I put out the pictures and I said, look, some despicable bastard put this up and
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TxDOT, the Texas Department of Transportation has been notified.
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They will almost surely remove this expeditiously, but I've removed it now so that not another
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So there are thousands or in time millions of people that are driving up and down 59.
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I got a lot of folks who texted me and said, thank you for doing that.
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And I got to say, my response to all of them was just that it needed to be done.
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That this was grotesque and we needed to just cover it up and say that this is not okay.
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I want to move to the text messages that have come out.
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And it's very interesting to see all of the evidence that is now we are seeing.
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The transparency of these text messages that were between the shooter and his transgender boyfriend.
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And I also want to say there are some people that are saying, oh, you're taking this hook, line, and sinker.
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I don't know if they planned the text messages.
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I don't know if this was him trying to protect the roommate and act like the roommate knew nothing about it.
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But what was shocking about this is how the media decided to play it and romanticize their relationship through the text messages
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in the weirdest, creepiest way I've ever seen the mainstream media do this.
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Yeah, look, I'm sorry to do this, but I'm going to read you these text messages because they're horrifying.
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But it makes clear there is no doubt that this murderer is guilty.
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And by the way, there is a reason I won't say the murderer's name.
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Because anyone who engages in a mass murder and horrific crime like this, part of the reason they do this is they want to be famous.
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I will call him the murderer or the assassin or the defendant, but I will not say his name.
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But the murderer and his boyfriend were exchanging texts, and the murderer left under a keyboard in their apartment a note
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saying that he had the opportunity to kill Charlie Kirk, and he took it.
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And his boyfriend, who is a man who is transgender and transitioning to be a woman, responded,
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I'm still okay, my love, but I'm stuck in Orem for a little while longer.
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Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I got to grab my rifle still.
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To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age.
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Boyfriend, you weren't the one who did it, right?
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Murderer, no, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing.
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I had planned to grab my rifle from the drop point shortly after.
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If I'm able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence.
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Boyfriend, how long have you been planning this?
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I can get close to it, but there is a squad car parked by it.
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I think they already swept the spot, but I don't want to chance it.
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Murderer, I wish I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle.
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I'm worried what my old man would do if I didn't bring back Grandpa's rifle.
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I don't know if it had a serial number, but it wouldn't trace to me.
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I worry about prints I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits.
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Didn't have the ability or time to bring it with.
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I might have to abandon it and hope they don't find prints.
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How the F will I explain losing it to my old man?
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Only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel.
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If I see notices bulges UWU on Fox News, I might have a stroke.
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Now, number one, reading those text exchanges, it is 100% clear.
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He is confessing details of the crime that only the murderer would know.
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Based on that evidence, it is 100% certain he is guilty.
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You know, Caitlin Collins and CNN and MSNBC, they say, we don't know the motive.
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Maybe he was just, you know, firing his gun in celebration and it accidentally hit the throat of someone.
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It accidentally, somebody that was there excited just to see Charlie Kirk and it went off randomly.
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Like the level of, and by the way, an idiot commentator at MSNBC said, maybe it was a supporter of Charlie Kirk firing his gun in celebration.
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Now, thankfully, that commentator got fired for that idiocy.
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He is sleeping with a transgender man who is transitioning to be a woman.
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And so the motive, there's no ambiguity, but CNN hates that motive.
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That would undermine their entire political agenda.
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So they desperately have to say the motive is unclear.
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By the way, Caitlin Collins said repeatedly, well, law enforcement hasn't laid out the motive.
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They said it's a left-wing activist who's radicalized.
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The bullets had carved on them Antifa and transgender messages.
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But I have to say, as repulsive as CNN's reaction was, ABC's was worse.
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I want you to listen to ABC News's reaction to this text exchange between the murderer and his transgender boyfriend.
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We have seen an alleged murder with such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it.
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But also, it was very touching in a way that I think many of us didn't expect.
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A very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning, calling him, my love, and I want to protect you, my love.
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So it was this duality of someone who the attorney said not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of this case.
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And on the other hand, he was, you know, speaking so lovingly about his partner.
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So a very interesting and, as Pierre said, riveting press conference, David.
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I love how they say it's a riveting press conference center.
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And just, you know, he referred to him as my love, and this is just so sweet and sincere.
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It's like, what in the world are you guys doing over there at ABC News with your special report live coverage?
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It is repulsive that ABC News is gushing over this psychopathic murderer.
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And ABC News, oh, they're touching and sweet text messages.
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He is confessing to a deliberate murder because he hates what somebody is saying.
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He murdered a father of two little kids, one boy, one girl.
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And ABC News thinks it's so sweet that he confessed to his transgender boyfriend, which, of course, they call his roommate, even though he's calling him my love.
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Like, there is no ambiguity when you call someone my love what exactly the relationship is.
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But ABC News cannot admit, to them it is sweet and beautiful, this radical leftist murdering Charlie Kirk.
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I don't know if you knew this, but 10 minutes after that, like the Internet exploded over it.
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He went back on and doubled down on it and basically did the same thing again.
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I think it's genuine and sweet and sincere and a love story.
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You know, what a romantic Romeo and Juliet story, you know, psycho leftist murderer killing people because he's filled with hate.
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I can't think of anything more beautiful than that.
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Certain certainly ABC News is very persuasive in that regard.
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Yeah, it's it'll be the face of the network before you know it.
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So this is 10 minutes after he said on ABC News Live.
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Obviously, Charlie Kirk was murdered brutally in front of a crowd of thousands.
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On the other hand, there is this duality of every portrait of a of a again, his exact words of a very like this is like a love story.
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So this is this is 10 minutes later after the Internet.
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And I'm I have no doubt that he knew that there was a problem.
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Obviously, Charlie Kirk was murdered brutally in front of a crowd of thousands of people who watched him being shot through the neck and then essentially bleed out in front of him.
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And I think one of the things that the attorney here made a very fine point about is that a lot of these charges, seven charges, were aggravated because children were present.
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And that was something that obviously is aggravating here.
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And that's one of the reasons that the suspect, in addition to the alleged murder being political in nature, is facing the death penalty.
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And on the other hand, there is this duality of a very portrait of a very human person, a very human experience from this entire family.
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As you mentioned it, the mother essentially discovered that it was her son who had done this.
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The kid who had got a 34 out of 36 on the ACTs, who had a 4.0, who got a full ride to college here, that that kid was the one who allegedly perpetrated.
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She saw those pictures and said, identified him, essentially.
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And I don't think I've ever experienced a press conference in which we've read text messages that are A, so fulsome, so robust, so apparently, allegedly self-incriminating, and yet, on the other hand, so touching.
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With the suspect reaching out to his roommate, who is allegedly his boyfriend, who we understand identified as male at birth, now identifies as female, and the terminology he used.
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He kept calling him, my love, my reason for doing this is to protect you, but also asking him to delete the messages and not speak to law enforcement.
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So there's this heartbreaking duality that we're seeing very tragically playing out.
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If that's not doubling down, I don't know what is.
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Look, I don't know who this particular reporter is, but I will say it says something that this speaks to him in such a touching, moving way.
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I see depraved maniacs who just committed cold-blooded murder, and his boyfriend, his boyfriend is like not saying, dear God, what the hell did you do?
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You know, he didn't, the boyfriend never said there's anything wrong with murdering Charlie Kirk.
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There ain't nothing touching about these two psychopaths reveling in their cold-blooded murder.
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And for ABC to think it is, that really tells you how messed up ABC is.
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By the way, I'll be very interested to see if ABC tries to walk this back, if it comes out, those text messages where I cover your ass moment to try to save the boyfriend roommate.
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I will be very interested to see how they manage that.
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