Verdict with Ted Cruz - September 25, 2026


Communist China Comes to Washington, Democrat Hasan Piker wants to Put Americans in Chinese Jails & Talarico “Pastor” Says She Doesn’t Believe in Jesus

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00:03:47.180 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:03:50.800 It's so nice to have you with us, especially if you're listening on the radio around the country.
00:03:54.640 Senator, it was one heck of a week in Washington, D.C. where you were.
00:03:58.360 And not only was it a big week there, but it was also a very big week in New York City at the United Nations as well.
00:04:05.300 and we've got a lot to cover. Well, this week, President Xi Jinping was in Washington, D.C.
00:04:12.300 to meet with President Trump and to be there for a state dinner. And it was Washington was shut
00:04:18.600 down for most of the day that Xi was there. Many of the streets were closed. And the guest list
00:04:25.680 included many of the most prominent CEOs in America. Virtually all of the tech CEOs came
00:04:33.860 in for it. In many ways, you read through the guest list, and it was an illustration of how
00:04:39.500 the battle with China and the race for AI is front and center, and every one of those tech CEOs
00:04:46.840 is engaged right in the middle of that battle. But the president brought Xi in and did what
00:04:57.260 Donald Trump does frequently, which is negotiate with our adversaries, and I am confident press
00:05:03.780 the interest of the United States. The contest with China, I think, is the single biggest and 0.53
00:05:11.840 most significant geopolitical threat facing this country for the next hundred years.
00:05:16.860 Yeah. And I, for one, am very glad we have a president like Donald Trump who's willing to
00:05:22.480 stand up to China as compared to during the four years of Joe Biden, a president who would not do
00:05:28.020 so. Yeah, it was really interesting to see. And we're going to get into that meeting.
00:05:32.240 and exactly what I always talked about, especially publicly.
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00:06:35.940 All right, Senator, I want to go back to this state dinner.
00:06:38.220 And there was some criticism by some of the people that I know well in the world of politics
00:06:44.000 who were saying the president shouldn't be rolling out the red carpet for China,
00:06:48.100 shouldn't be doing a state dinner, shouldn't be smiling and grinning.
00:06:53.240 And I laugh because this is a president that's made it clear,
00:06:56.260 whether it was his first term or second term,
00:06:57.860 he'll meet with anyone, anywhere to negotiate a deal.
00:07:01.300 And he also, as you mentioned in the guest list,
00:07:03.520 this was a who's who to show strength.
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00:07:08.360 Jamie Dimon, JPMorgan Chase, who's there.
00:07:10.840 You've got Elon Musk and that team there.
00:07:13.060 You've got all these AI people in those sectors.
00:07:15.860 So whether it is launching satellites or AI or the banking world,
00:07:19.980 the president made it clear at this state dinner,
00:07:22.040 He wanted China to see what America has on our side and what they're up against.
00:07:28.380 And by the way, China did not have a bunch of CEOs there on their side at all.
00:07:31.960 Well, and I will say that the perspective of much of the world has changed on China significantly.
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00:07:41.780 I was saying then that the contest with China was the most important battle we had for the next century. 0.97
00:07:49.660 Yeah.
00:07:49.780 That was a really lonely position at the time. There was virtually nobody in Washington who
00:07:55.740 agreed with me. The Democrats all disagreed. They all wanted to get in bed with China.
00:08:03.120 And at the time, most of the Republicans did too. They looked at China and they just saw
00:08:07.820 dollar signs. They wanted to do business with China. It was all in. And what I've been advocating
00:08:15.560 is that we need a comprehensive strategy, much like we did under Ronald Reagan dealing with the
00:08:23.120 Soviet Union. Now, look, to be clear, nobody in their right mind wants a shooting war with China.
00:08:29.340 China is a nuclear superpower. They have a massive military. It would be very, very bad for America,
00:08:35.320 very, very bad for China, and very bad for the world if we engaged in a full-on shooting war 0.77
00:08:41.120 with China, just like it would have been very, very bad for America and the Soviet Union and 0.95
00:08:45.640 the world if we'd engaged in a shooting war with them. When you have massive superpowers, 0.91
00:08:50.540 each of whom has enough nuclear weapons to eradicate humanity, you really, really,
00:08:56.040 really don't want those weapons used. But that doesn't mean that you have no tools. It doesn't
00:09:02.320 mean you roll over. And that toolkit includes, number one, the bully pulpit. It means calling
00:09:08.520 out China for their culpability, holding them to account. And it means, number two, 0.97
00:09:14.520 resisting them, resisting their espionage, resisting their propaganda, resisting their
00:09:19.840 funding in the United States, resisting their investing in farmland and buying farmland near
00:09:26.560 military bases, resisting in their expansion across the globe. China is engaged in what they 0.71
00:09:33.940 call the Belt and Road Initiative, where they invest billions of dollars in Latin America and
00:09:38.820 Africa throughout Asia. And it's all from China's perspective. They're waging a thousand year war
00:09:46.880 against the United States. And their objective is global domination. They're not confused about
00:09:51.520 what they want. They want to dominate America economically, militarily, diplomatically. They
00:09:58.040 want to dominate America across the globe. And, and, you know, I will say when, when Biden was
00:10:05.040 president, the administration did not stand up to China. They were loath to stand up to China.
00:10:11.800 Trump has done far more so on trade. He's imposed tariffs and pressed back on China and trade. And
00:10:18.440 I think, look, look, I am skeptical of tariffs, particularly tariffs staying in place on a
00:10:24.160 permanent basis with respect to most countries that we trade with. But I think China is different,
00:10:29.740 and I think de-linking our supply chain, particularly for critical infrastructure
00:10:36.300 from China, is hugely, hugely important. And listen, I'm glad that Trump had our tech leaders
00:10:45.400 there. Now listen, big tech has a host of sins, a host of things they've done that I think were
00:10:51.360 wrong, that we need to work to hold them accountable to the American people. But
00:10:58.680 the question of who wins the race for AI, America or China is, I believe, the most important economic
00:11:09.120 question facing America. The answer to that will dictate trillions of dollars in new investment
00:11:17.520 and millions of new jobs. 0.65
00:11:19.020 If we lose to China,
00:11:20.840 we will see millions of high-paying jobs go to China.
00:11:24.660 And even more importantly,
00:11:26.680 whatever country wins the race for AI,
00:11:29.300 their values are going to dominate AI.
00:11:32.340 So if you want the values of the Chinese Communist Party,
00:11:35.880 espionage, surveillance, propaganda, control,
00:11:39.000 AI used as a tool of the government to control you, 0.60
00:11:44.220 then you're good with China winning the race for AI.
00:11:48.100 If you want American values of free speech
00:11:51.100 and individual freedom and free enterprise to dictate AI,
00:11:55.260 then you want America to win the race for AI.
00:11:58.140 So the stakes are high and having those tech CEOs there
00:12:01.820 was very much a show of strength
00:12:04.440 because right now America is winning
00:12:06.760 and that's one of the reasons why China is investing real money
00:12:10.720 in pushing anti-AI and anti-data center propaganda
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00:19:23.280 Senator, I want to get back into this conversation we were having a moment ago about China.
00:19:28.200 Obviously, the state dinner was very interesting, and there was a lot of politics playing out there.
00:19:32.600 But I was talking to one of our good friends, Larry Kudlow, on his show on Fox,
00:19:36.520 And we were going through the list of all the big topics that the president was probably going to be talking about with the leader of China.
00:19:44.640 It is a long list. It's an important list. Everything from AI to fentanyl to Taiwan.
00:19:51.280 I mean, there is a lot that they were going to be hashing out, is my guess.
00:19:55.520 So there are a lot of topics that I'm certain were on the agenda.
00:19:59.200 I think front and center, was China's assistance to Iran and China's willingness, number one,
00:20:05.860 to purchase Iranian oil, number two, to provide military equipment that is restocking Iran.
00:20:11.280 Obviously, we've had ongoing military conflict with Iran for a number of months, and China has
00:20:17.240 played an important role resupplying Iran. And so I am quite confident that the president pressed 0.54
00:20:23.940 hard on Xi to stop bailing out Iran, to enhance the pressure of the economic blockade that
00:20:31.700 President Trump has in place on Iran.
00:20:34.800 And by the way, China loved the cheap oil. 0.75
00:20:37.440 That was one of the things that was propping up Iran.
00:20:40.280 And people may not realize just how much Iranian oil was going directly to China that they,
00:20:46.620 by the way, desperately need.
00:20:48.040 But they were able to get it at a discount.
00:20:49.640 Now, that was one of the reasons why many believe they were helping Iran.
00:20:54.400 And there was even this big controversy this last week over those satellite pictures that may have been used in another country to target an American military base.
00:21:02.540 Yeah, look, at its peak under Joe Biden, Iran was selling and producing and selling 2 million barrels a day of oil, most of which was going to China.
00:21:14.440 And that flowed over $100 billion to the Ayatollah.
00:21:19.300 That was as a result of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris refusing to enforce Iran sanctions.
00:21:24.940 And so leaning into China to get them to stop assisting Iran is, I think, very important.
00:21:32.600 I also hope and believe that President Trump raised prisoners wrongly detained in China.
00:21:39.720 One of them is Jimmy Lai.
00:21:42.120 So Jimmy Lai is a democracy dissident.
00:21:45.820 He is from Hong Kong.
00:21:47.600 He was a media mogul, a newspaper man who's been incredibly courageous
00:21:52.160 speaking up for human rights, speaking up against Chinese communist oppression.
00:21:57.300 And what did the Chinese communist government do?
00:21:59.660 They locked him in jail.
00:22:01.060 He has been in jail for six years.
00:22:03.000 He's been in solitary confinement for much of that time.
00:22:06.580 Jimmy Lai is 78 years old.
00:22:08.480 His health is failing.
00:22:10.000 I met last week with Sebastian Lai, who is Jimmy's son,
00:22:14.340 and publicly called on the administration to do everything they can to secure Jimmy Lai's release.
00:22:20.960 But, you know, back in 2019, when I traveled to Hong Kong to stand in support with the dissidents there
00:22:27.840 who were standing up to Chinese Communist oppression, I met with Jimmy Lai in 2019.
00:22:32.200 And he had a lot of courage then. He had amassed a lot of wealth.
00:22:36.600 And he was risking it all by standing up to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:22:41.480 And I will say, particularly now, there's a powerful humanitarian case. Look, China arrested
00:22:47.860 him on trumped up charges. They basically invented a law so they could throw Jimmy Lai in jail because
00:22:53.180 he's been such an effective voice against the Chinese oppression. But Jimmy Lai's daughter
00:22:59.060 right now has cancer. And so she's publicly called on a humanitarian release of her husband. I hope
00:23:05.780 President Trump leaned in. He has raised Jimmy Lai with the Chinese before, and I hope he did 0.97
00:23:11.580 this time as well. You know, you talk about that's one of the things that this administration has
00:23:16.580 really, really focused on, and that is people that are being held against their will inappropriately
00:23:22.800 by regimes, also hostages, American hostages. They've had great success. You've been involved
00:23:27.560 in quite a few of those cases. That's one of the things that I do think is going to be part of
00:23:32.060 Trump's legacy is how much he made sure that on either standing up on issues like this or getting
00:23:39.100 Americans back that are being held around the world. And again, that's something that's part
00:23:42.580 of your legacy as well, Senator. You've really focused on that significantly while you've been
00:23:47.160 in the Senate, and you guys have that in common very much so. Well, I've spent a lot of time
00:23:51.800 focusing on dissidents and championing dissidents. If you look at China, Mark Swedan, who was an
00:23:58.160 American citizen. He was a Texan and he was wrongfully detained for roughly a decade in
00:24:04.180 China. And I twice authored bipartisan resolutions calling for Mark Swadon's release that passed the
00:24:13.440 Senate unanimously. And I repeatedly raised it directly with the Chinese government. I repeatedly
00:24:18.480 raised it with the Biden administration, with the Trump administration, urging them to make it a
00:24:23.200 priority to release Mark Swadon. I talked with his mother, who lives in Texas, multiple times.
00:24:30.060 And Joe Biden was not able to get that done, but President Trump leaned in and secured Mark
00:24:37.920 Swadon's release. And I actually met with Mark when he came back to America after a decade in
00:24:43.300 horrific conditions in a Chinese jail. And, you know, there is a power to speaking out for
00:24:50.900 dissidents. It's one of the things, tyrannies fear dissidents. And so I have spoken out for
00:24:58.100 dissidents all over the world that are unjustly held by tyrannies and tyrants. You know, one
00:25:04.520 example back in the Obama administration was a woman named Miriam Ibrahim, who was wrongfully
00:25:11.820 imprisoned in Sudan. She was sentenced to 100 lashes and to hang by the neck until dead for
00:25:19.300 the crime of being a Christian. That was her offense. She was a Christian, and the government 1.00
00:25:24.380 of Sudan demanded she either denounce Jesus or they would torture and murder her, and I repeatedly
00:25:31.020 went to the Senate floor. I spoke out on her behalf. I begged Obama to say her name. He would 0.76
00:25:36.220 not utter her name, and by the way, Miriam is a young mom. She had a daughter, Maya, and a little
00:25:45.720 baby boy Martin who was born in prison literally while she was in leg irons in the dirt in prison
00:25:51.880 and even though Obama would not lean in ultimately there was enough international pressure that Sudan
00:25:58.280 gave in and they released her and I got to meet her when she came to America her husband's an
00:26:03.020 American and and I met with her and I asked her look when you were in that dark prison and they
00:26:08.540 were threatening to murder you and you were there with your babies how did you not give up yeah and
00:26:14.340 she looked at me with this incredible peace and she just said, Jesus was with me. And it really,
00:26:22.240 it's powerful. It's one of the reasons I spend so much time highlighting dissidents because it's
00:26:27.340 powerful as a tool to fight back against tyranny. You know, not everybody is rooting for people to
00:26:35.380 be released that are being held in China. A great example of that is a guy by the name of Hassan
00:26:40.400 Piker. Democrats are hoping this guy would just take a really long sabbatical from saying crazy
00:26:46.500 things, but he's not doing that at all. Well, Hassan Piker is one of the most important
00:26:53.600 champions and surrogates who's campaigning with Democrats all across the country. And Democrats
00:26:59.040 are embracing him. They're proud to stand with him. And Hassan Piker is an America-hating
00:27:04.520 communist. He is an Islamist. This is the same radical who says America deserved 9-11. 0.98
00:27:13.280 He campaigned repeatedly with Abdul Al-Sayed, the Democrat nominee in Michigan, who, like Piker,
00:27:19.660 is an Islamist and a Marxist and an America hater. And no matter how extreme Hassan Piker gets,
00:27:30.120 the democrats are unwilling to distance themselves from him and indeed abdul i'll say it continues to
00:27:35.860 embrace this guy i want you to listen to what hassan piker is saying right now he wants to do 0.94
00:27:42.460 if he's in power give a listen like i will throw you in prison okay i want to put you physically
00:27:51.060 behind a prison i want chinese style communism to happen inside of the democratic party right now 0.85
00:27:59.180 OK, I want to do cultural revolution when I see that. 0.70
00:28:02.960 I mean, I'll give him this.
00:28:04.920 The timing is really nice with China coming to town.
00:28:08.540 It's almost like you should say today's show brought to you by the Chinese Communist Party.
00:28:13.060 Look, I will give him credit for one thing.
00:28:16.960 Honesty.
00:28:18.120 That is, in fact, what he wants to do.
00:28:20.320 And he says he wants Chinese style communism.
00:28:23.920 He wants gulags.
00:28:25.360 He wants to throw people in prison.
00:28:27.560 He wants cultural revolution. Look, there are right now more than one million people in
00:28:35.060 concentration camps in China's Uyghurs, which is a religious minority. In those concentration camps,
00:28:41.220 they do horrific things. The Fulongong, which is another religious minority, they do organ 1.00
00:28:46.480 harvesting. The Chinese communist government forcibly takes their organs to transplant 1.00
00:28:52.260 and other people. It is horrific. They torture people. They murder people. And Hassan Piker
00:28:58.120 is calling for that. By the way, he's calling for that within the Democrat Party. If you listen to
00:29:03.400 what he was saying there, he's not even like, look, he clearly wants to do it to us, to Republicans,
00:29:07.180 but he's saying, if you are not a full-on Marxist, if you are not a full-on Islamist in the Democrat
00:29:13.980 Party, that's what he wants to do to his fellow Democrats. I mean, when I say there's a hostile
00:29:20.500 takeover of the Democrat Party. Look, there's a reason that my Democrat colleagues are terrified
00:29:27.660 of this guy. And I want to listen to this clip also of Mao Zedong. It's actually of Hassan
00:29:35.600 Piker talking about Mao. Give a listen. Mao Zedong is one of the great leaders of this world,
00:29:43.660 Okay. A man who changed the entire universe, the entire planet. Okay. For real, for real. Yes.
00:29:52.480 I mean, there was a lot of excesses. Let's be real. But the People's Republic of China would
00:29:57.380 not exist without Mao Zedong. Senator, I got to say, I mean, when you go all in for this style
00:30:02.680 of communism and you're the leading surrogate of the Democratic Party, it should wake up a few
00:30:07.820 americans uh this is what they really want look mal is one of the most evil human beings to have
00:30:14.860 ever lived he was a monster by the way can you just explain a little bit behind that because 0.99
00:30:22.080 when in a lot of people they think monster they're like well okay there's enough hitler and then
00:30:26.080 there's others a lot of people don't know of monsters honestly in history outside truly of
00:30:31.480 Hitler? Well, Mao was responsible for over 30 million who died during the Great Leap Forward
00:30:40.040 famine. He was responsible for at least two and a half million who were beaten or tortured to death.
00:30:48.220 He was responsible for more than 722,000 people who were executed in the campaign to suppress
00:30:56.720 counter-revolutionaries. He was responsible for between 1.1 million and 1.6 million who died in
00:31:05.000 the Cultural Revolution. Hassan Piker's saying, I want a Cultural Revolution. That took between 1.1
00:31:10.760 and 1.6 million lives, people who were murdered, and he was responsible for tens of millions of 0.77
00:31:17.320 people who were subject to political persecution with Christians. Mao had a particular hatred for
00:31:24.040 Christians. He would literally drive two and three inch nails into the eyeballs of Christians. That's 0.99
00:31:29.800 how he would murder Christians, with a hammer and nails. And what is Hassan Piker says? He's one of 0.99
00:31:37.060 the great leaders of the world. Look, you mentioned Hitler. Look, Hassan Piker, he's cheering on Mao. 0.96
00:31:44.700 I assume he cheers on Stalin. I assume he cheers on Hitler. Mass murderers. He is telling you he is
00:31:53.260 in favor of mass murder. He is in favor of oppression. And Abdul Al-Sayed stands happily
00:32:00.080 beside him and said, yep, that's my guy. And to be clear, Al-Sayed does not win the Democrat
00:32:06.060 nomination in Michigan without Hassan Piker. He is directly responsible for Al-Sayed being the 0.64
00:32:12.980 nominee. And if you, look, this is something I take very seriously. Communism, I believe, 1.00
00:32:19.800 is the most evil doctrine humanity has ever produced. It is responsible for more death,
00:32:27.520 more suffering, more poverty, more torture, more misery than any other ideology mankind has ever
00:32:37.920 produced. And just between Mao and Stalin, they are the two human beings who have lived to have
00:32:43.600 killed the most people. Hitler was evil and embodied evil, but in terms of death toll, 0.77
00:32:51.360 both Mao and Stalin killed many more people than Hitler did. And then you throw in Pol 0.93
00:32:57.600 Pot in Cambodia, who killed millions as well. You do Castro in Cuba. You do Nicaragua. You 0.67
00:33:05.640 do North Korea. You do Venezuela. Every country that has had communism. The result is murder.
00:33:13.220 it's imprisonment, it's torture, it's oppression. And that is what Hassan Piker is saying,
00:33:19.220 not just that he supports it there. I want to play again what he wants here in America. I want
00:33:25.820 to play just his words once again. This is one of the leading surrogates for Democrats running
00:33:32.720 for Senate right now today in 2026. Listen to him again what Hassan Piker wants.
00:33:38.300 I will throw you in prison. OK, I want to put you physically behind a prison. 0.80
00:33:46.660 I want Chinese style communism to happen inside of the Democratic Party right now. 0.95
00:33:52.580 OK, I want to do cultural revolution when I see that. 0.90
00:33:56.360 But by the way, I do think it's interesting as we play that for the second time, Senator.
00:34:00.280 You know, you look at this past week and the warnings coming from the Democratic Party or the promise to their voters that if you'll just give us back control of the House or the Senate or both, we're going to weaponize our government and we're going to go after Donald Trump.
00:34:15.960 We're going to go after his cabinet members.
00:34:17.300 We're going to go after his donors.
00:34:18.400 We're going to go after his family members.
00:34:19.460 Like, we want to put people in jail.
00:34:21.320 It sounds an awful lot like what he's saying he also wants to do, if you think about it.
00:34:25.240 Yeah, look, under Joe Biden, we saw the Department of Justice.
00:34:28.940 We saw the FBI.
00:34:29.680 eye, we saw the federal government weaponized to attack the president's political opponents.
00:34:35.400 And I believe should these radicals get power again, it will be substantially worse. These
00:34:42.540 zealots are embracing, he is telling you he wants to oppress you, he wants to strip away your rights,
00:34:48.860 strip away your civil liberties. Look, when he wants cultural revolution stuff, he is literally
00:34:55.740 talking about murdering his opponents and abdul al-sayed steadfastly refuses to distance himself 0.84
00:35:05.460 refuses to denounce the evil that hassan piker this is not a comment he made years and years
00:35:12.340 ago this is what he's saying right now this is who piker is by the way young people on the left
00:35:19.000 these DSA communists, cheer Hassan Piker like he's Mick Jagger, like he's a rock star. 0.69
00:35:27.320 I mean, imagine China. 0.90
00:35:29.040 I mean, if they're in America, you know, looking at what we're saying here on their visit,
00:35:33.280 this is not just music to the air.
00:35:35.300 This is like straight up propaganda from them.
00:35:38.140 This is what's taking over the Democrat Party.
00:35:40.500 And by the way, Abdul Al-Sayed, he believes the same things.
00:35:43.600 Listen to Abdul Al-Sayed's sister talking about what her brother believes.
00:35:49.000 hey i just want to say thank you for what you said um i also my uh my nephew just started going
00:35:54.600 to um yeah and i got him i got him actually doing that you got super like sketch about it
00:36:01.240 because the whole you know like i'm a capitalist like don't worry about that
00:36:07.560 all we care about is the policies at this point
00:36:12.440 are you a socialist i'm not i'm a capitalist are you a socialist i'm not i'm a capitalist are you
00:36:17.240 a socialist i'm not i'm a capitalist it's amazing how much so just lie straight to your face just to
00:36:22.220 hope they win this election even though it's very clear what they believe well as his sister said
00:36:27.380 all they care about is the policy so he's going to lie and claim now that he's a capitalist but but
00:36:31.940 but it's very clear as as she was willing to reassure this uh this this pretend supporter
00:36:37.860 that that he's not a capitalist uh it's just about the policies and listen he stands with
00:36:43.220 Hassan Piker, who wants to throw us all in jail, and he wants Chairman Mao's cultural revolution
00:36:48.500 here in America. Senator, I want to get into another issue, and that is James Tallarico in
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00:38:34.560 All right, Senator, let's get into James Tallarico.
00:38:36.920 You know, this is a guy that really wants you to believe that he's not a radical, that
00:38:42.360 he's not extreme, and that those around him are just middle of the road because he's desperate
00:38:46.380 to try to lie to people, fool them in Texas.
00:38:50.060 But his past keeps coming out to get him, and the people around him keep saying things,
00:38:56.080 clearly trying to lie to the American people as well about who he really is.
00:39:00.820 Well, listen, I think the two most dangerous and the most radical and extreme candidates in the
00:39:05.680 country are Abdul Al-Sayed and James Tallarico. They are both Democrat nominees in Michigan and
00:39:13.280 Texas, respectively, and they're both extreme. Now, they're trying to pretend not to be for
00:39:19.000 the general election voters. Tallarico, in particular, he tries very hard to claim that
00:39:24.360 he's a moderate. And the big thing he tries to do is by saying that he is a Christian minister.
00:39:31.340 And that, you know, that particularly for a voter not paying attention, they say, well,
00:39:36.080 gosh, if he's a minister, I mean, you know, if he's a Christian, that's great. He can't be that
00:39:41.200 extreme. And I will say every week, more facts about his record, about his saying God is non-binary,
00:39:50.580 about his saying there's six different genders, about his saying he wants a welcome man on the
00:39:55.220 southern border to welcome illegal immigrants, about his saying he wants to dismantle capitalism,
00:40:01.200 about his saying he's a, quote, Christian who hates Christianity. He's on video saying that as
00:40:08.220 well. But not only that, the church that he has attended for many, many years is a church in
00:40:15.460 Austin that is more radical than any church I have ever seen. And one of the senior pastors
00:40:22.540 there is this woman who's a lesbian who was caught on undercover film. Now, look, I am reluctant to
00:40:30.180 question someone else's faith. That is not for me to do. That is a question for God to judge.
00:40:36.940 But I will say, if you say you're a Christian, the absolute heart of Christianity, the Gospels,
00:40:44.560 You actually find it in John 3.16, for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten
00:40:49.980 son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
00:40:55.040 That is the essence of Christianity, that Jesus came, died on the cross for our sins,
00:41:00.160 and that if we accept his forgiveness, if we accept his salvations, our sins will be
00:41:07.280 forgiven.
00:41:07.680 All of the rest of it, you can have doctrinal disputes, but that's the absolute heart of
00:41:13.100 what it means to be a Christian.
00:41:15.040 Now, I want you to listen to James Tallarico's pastor
00:41:20.200 and what she and the folks at their church believe.
00:41:25.300 Do we really believe that like a virgin gave birth to a baby?
00:41:29.820 Yeah, okay. 0.88
00:41:30.820 I just don't want to offend my own common sense.
00:41:34.040 Yeah, no, don't.
00:41:35.540 Yeah.
00:41:36.480 Absolutely don't.
00:41:38.240 Part of what we encourage here is for people to think for themselves
00:41:41.760 and take what makes sense
00:41:44.300 it's kind of like what they say
00:41:46.260 in 12 step programs
00:41:47.260 take what you want and leave the rest
00:41:50.000 and I know
00:41:52.800 that that would
00:41:54.440 greatly offend
00:41:55.440 your relatives
00:41:57.160 who want to hang on to
00:42:00.180 these archaic rules
00:42:02.220 Mary and the virgin birth
00:42:04.820 comes out of the
00:42:06.360 pagan belief that the gods
00:42:08.240 came down and impregnated people
00:42:10.500 that people were still
00:42:12.860 hanging on to during that
00:42:14.960 time. We have no way of knowing
00:42:17.020 if Jesus really existed
00:42:18.360 any more than we have of knowing
00:42:20.980 that the original Buddha ever
00:42:22.720 existed. And whether or not
00:42:25.080 Jesus existed
00:42:26.800 doesn't really matter
00:42:29.000 to me. The fact remains
00:42:31.100 that that message
00:42:33.180 that was delivered
00:42:35.100 by someone named Jesus
00:42:36.920 supposedly, and it could have all been
00:42:38.940 made up for all I know. And the God in the Old Testament is not a loving God.
00:42:43.700 It's a vengeful, killing people 0.79
00:42:47.020 kind of God.
00:42:51.280 This is a lot of mythology. Jesus was political.
00:42:56.060 Jesus was put on that cross not to save
00:42:59.080 us. Jesus was put on that cross because Rome aided him.
00:43:03.460 And they thought he was a threat to their
00:43:07.020 domination of that area and so they killed him yeah so he was kind of more to save our sins
00:43:12.820 so he died more as a kind of a social justice yes warrior in some sense yes so that makes a
00:43:20.040 whole lot more sense to me yeah than to say that some god would kill his son for us that doesn't
00:43:27.300 make sense never made sense how does that make up for all the things i can do no it doesn't
00:43:31.980 so look that is a whole lot of things but that is not christianity yeah when a supposed christian
00:43:43.480 pastor says whether or not jesus existed doesn't matter to me yeah when she says
00:43:52.860 that it makes no sense that god would send his son to die for our sins that is what it means
00:44:00.740 to be a Christian. You could have, look, there are doctrinal disputes. Is baptism dunking or
00:44:07.500 sprinkling? Okay, fine. People can disagree about that stuff, but if you reject the heart of the
00:44:12.940 gospel, you don't even care if Jesus existed. You may be a left-wing philosopher. You may be
00:44:21.000 a left-wing radical activist, but what you are not is a Christian, and that is the world from 0.98
00:44:30.260 which James Tallarico comes, and we have every reason to believe that that reflects his belief
00:44:38.220 as well. Yeah, it is shocking, and that video and audio there, I hope everybody listening will
00:44:44.600 share it wherever you can on social media. It's important to get out there to know who James
00:44:49.300 Tallarico actually is and what he believes. This is what he believes. This is his pastor. This is
00:44:53.140 the church he's at. Don't forget, we do this show Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Hit that subscribe or
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