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00:06:20.580 Story number one.
00:06:21.780 This morning, the stakes, well, they couldn't be higher.
00:06:24.760 As President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping
00:06:27.460 are preparing for one of the biggest meetings between the United States and China in years.
00:06:32.860 And forget the diplomatic handshakes and the photo opportunities for the moment, because when these two men sit down, virtually every major point of friction between the world's two largest economies could be on the table.
00:06:45.900 Trade tariffs and especially artificial intelligence and then microchips and then rare earth minerals and then fentanyl that's been killing far too many Americans, as well as the national security issues that, you know, they want to talk about over in China.
00:07:00.280 I'm being sarcastic, like Taiwan.
00:07:02.680 Well, it's on the table whether they want to talk about it or not.
00:07:05.920 And then the overall bigger issue of just straight up national security.
00:07:10.380 So here is what you need to watch, what you need to be paying attention to.
00:07:14.720 First thing is this.
00:07:16.320 Can Donald Trump get a bigger trade deal with China?
00:07:19.520 And bigger also means a better trade deal.
00:07:22.620 Now, this may be the most immediate question in the talks.
00:07:25.840 The United States and China have been operating under a temporary trade truce.
00:07:30.280 But Trump has made clear throughout his presidency that he wants something more than promises
00:07:35.520 from Beijing.
00:07:36.880 He actually wants results.
00:07:39.040 That means American agricultural purchases, greater access to American companies, Chinese
00:07:46.240 compliance with previous commitments, and potentially major purchases of American-made
00:07:51.520 products, including aircraft.
00:07:54.080 China, meanwhile, wants relief and predictability when it comes to American tariffs.
00:07:58.700 That is where Trump's leverage clearly comes in and is significant.
00:08:03.780 Now, the president has spent years arguing that America's enormous consumer market
00:08:07.780 gives Washington massive negotiating power over Beijing.
00:08:12.540 This meeting gives us another opportunity to see whether Trump can turn that leverage
00:08:16.560 into actual concessions from China.
00:08:19.940 Now, the second thing to watch is this.
00:08:22.320 Rare earth minerals, well, that's going to be something that's extremely important
00:08:26.540 at the negotiating table.
00:08:27.760 And this could quietly become one of the biggest issues overall.
00:08:32.280 China has enormous influence over the processing and supply of rare earth minerals and magnets.
00:08:39.880 That is a problem.
00:08:41.160 This is all essential to modern manufacturing.
00:08:44.740 Now, we're talking about everything from automobiles to electronics to advanced weapons to missiles and missile systems to the most advanced aircraft and huge portions of technology and that economy in general.
00:08:57.940 Now, China understands that leverage more than anyone.
00:09:01.820 And America understands our vulnerability, which is what President Trump's been talking
00:09:06.060 about since the day he got back into office.
00:09:08.780 So one of the questions going into these meetings is whether Trump can secure greater access
00:09:13.500 to not only these minerals, while the United States continues trying to build supply chains
00:09:18.500 that aren't dependent on Beijing, because America does not want China to have an economic
00:09:24.240 kill switch over our critical american industries as well now after trump and gg ping deal with
00:09:31.380 those issues there's even a bigger one that both sides are obviously paying major attention to and
00:09:37.680 that is probably honestly the most important issue artificial intelligence and computer chips
00:09:43.380 now this is the issue i believe people should be paying more attention to than virtually anything
00:09:48.380 else because america and china well it's really a cold war race they are competing not only over
00:09:54.840 who sells more cars or who has better trade balances yeah those are minor compared to what
00:09:59.920 we're talking about right now we're talking about competing over who leads the next technology
00:10:04.240 revolution who controls the data and who shapes the narrative artificial intelligence literally
00:10:12.040 is reshaping manufacturing it's reshaping medicine it's reshaping military technology
00:10:17.520 and intelligence gathering and cyber warfare in virtually every major industry on Earth.
00:10:23.460 Now, America currently possesses enormous advantages in advanced semiconductor technology and AI.
00:10:29.720 In China, they've been spending countless dollars trying to influence America to shut down AI and AI data centers.
00:10:37.000 We found out recently they had more than 200,000 bots online.
00:10:40.400 They were putting out misinformation to try to influence the American public
00:10:44.280 to stop having AI be a part of America's future.
00:10:48.860 In China, they feel like that is how they close that gap.
00:10:52.380 Now, China also has companies like Hawaii
00:10:54.620 who control Beijing's efforts to develop a technology ecosystem
00:10:58.740 that doesn't depend upon American companies.
00:11:01.560 And that's why advanced American chips
00:11:03.500 have become such a massive national security issue.
00:11:07.520 I want you to listen carefully to anything Trump says about chips,
00:11:11.080 about AI exports and American technology.
00:11:13.600 because this isn't merely a trade fight this is a fight over technological leadership and it
00:11:20.080 absolutely has to deal with national security and the way that wars could be fought in the future
00:11:25.920 and let's be clear China is all about stealing technology and espionage they're spending more 0.75
00:11:32.000 money now than at any other time apparently when it comes to trying to get people into this country 0.84
00:11:36.700 to be spies and to steal American technology they're really good at it by the way and they're
00:11:42.960 moving forward with more focus now than ever before when it comes to try to steal American
00:11:47.780 technology. Now, the other issue that the president is going to bring up and China is going to play
00:11:52.760 ignorant to has nothing to do with AI, has nothing to do with technology. It has to do with how many 0.52
00:11:58.120 Americans are dying because the fentanyl that's coming in from China. Trump has repeatedly pushed
00:12:04.340 China over the chemicals and the precursor materials that ultimately make their way into
00:12:09.520 the fentanyl supply chain. China has announced, quote, new guidelines dealing with fentanyl
00:12:14.280 related crimes immediately before these meetings. But that could just be lip service. The question
00:12:20.320 now is whether Beijing is prepared to provide measurable cooperation and most importantly,
00:12:26.000 enforcement, or are they just lying to America yet again? Now, Trump is going to want to be able
00:12:31.300 to come back to the American people and say, hey, China isn't just talking about fentanyl.
00:12:36.340 They're actually doing something about stopping the supply chain to all the cartels that are shipping it into this country with these fake pills that are costing so many Americans their lives.
00:12:47.280 Many Americans think they're taking something that has no chance of killing them, and it's laced with fentanyl, and then they die.
00:12:53.080 That is a problem, and the president is clearly focused on it.
00:12:57.400 And then there's one other big issue that does deal with national security.
00:13:01.140 It's the issue of Taiwan.
00:13:03.040 It's something China doesn't want to talk about because they don't want to negotiate on it.
00:13:07.040 But this issue has been hanging over virtually everything.
00:13:10.960 China, they say they consider Taiwan part of its territory and America should leave them alone.
00:13:16.800 Beijing has repeatedly made it clear that it not only views Taiwan as theirs, but also as a red line issue.
00:13:24.860 The United States also has enormous economic and security interests in maintaining peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait.
00:13:32.400 And Taiwan is incredibly important to the world's semiconductor industry as well.
00:13:38.220 So, yes, AI and semiconductors in Taiwan are all intertwined in these negotiations.
00:13:45.040 Now, does Xi increase the pressure?
00:13:47.260 Does Trump reiterate American policy?
00:13:50.160 And do we hear anything about military communications designed to prevent an accident or a miscalculation from turning into a much larger war or conflict?
00:13:58.960 because that's where the economic competition
00:14:01.800 could potentially become military confrontation.
00:14:05.740 Those are the issues the president has to deal with at the table.
00:14:09.420 And finally, we also just have to look at one other thing.
00:14:13.440 And this goes back to just body language.
00:14:16.260 Watching the relationship between Donald Trump and Xi.
00:14:19.780 Donald Trump has always approached Xi in an unusual way.
00:14:23.880 He can praise Xi personally while simultaneously threatening massive terrorists
00:14:27.540 or confronting China economically.
00:14:30.360 Trump's theory of negotiations has often been
00:14:32.820 maintain the personal relationship,
00:14:35.240 but use American economic power aggressively.
00:14:38.500 Xi comes in this meeting with his own objectives.
00:14:41.240 China wants tariff stability.
00:14:43.180 It wants greater access to American technology.
00:14:46.120 It wants fewer restrictions on Chinese companies.
00:14:49.040 And it wants Washington to stay out of what Beijing considers its internal affairs,
00:14:53.900 particularly with Taiwan.
00:14:55.980 Now, Trump has made it clear he wants China buying more American products and opening up its markets to American goods
00:15:02.140 and cooperating, truly, not just saying it, but actually doing it on fentanyl and critical minerals
00:15:09.080 and not using America's own technology to leapfrog the United States of America by stealing it.
00:15:15.040 This is what is going to be talked about the meeting, and it's massive.
00:15:19.320 Now, there's also a sidebar to this.
00:15:21.260 there are some in washington even republicans that are criticizing the way that president trump
00:15:27.740 is celebrating this meeting and welcoming g to america that's part of the reason why i talked
00:15:34.180 about how the president's diplomacy has been hey we can talk and be and be friendly but i'm also
00:15:39.760 going to be tough on the different sanctions and things i can use to my advantage well the
00:15:45.360 Secretary of State Marco Rubio was asked about this today, and here's what he said.
00:15:50.480 Our colleague Roger Ricker said that he would have suggested the president not invite the
00:15:53.900 Chinese president to Washington for such a lavish welcome here, and he called him a brutal,
00:15:58.560 unelected, oppressive dictator. Have you heard a similar sentiment in the lead-up to this dinner
00:16:03.120 from allies, and what's been your message to folks who are concerned about the U.S. welcoming the
00:16:07.960 Chinese president with such open arms? Guys, let me just say it to you this way, because I think
00:16:12.260 this is important and i used to have that job too in the senate so i understand it and i respect the
00:16:16.220 role that it plays in our system um the united states and china are the two largest economies
00:16:21.400 in the world the united states and china are probably the two most powerful militaries in
00:16:25.580 the world the relationship between the united states and china will define the 21st century
00:16:30.320 what happens in that relationship the idea that we would not interact with them at the highest levels
00:16:35.480 is irresponsible it's outrageous we have to that doesn't mean we don't have strong disagreements
00:16:40.280 Of course we do. But even at the height of the Cold War, even in the midst of the threat of nuclear annihilation and life ending on the earth, the United States had communications and meetings often with Russian officials and Soviet officials.
00:16:53.260 And thank God we did because it prevented a real war.
00:16:57.460 So we have – I think it's an obligation to be able to interact and speak to at the highest levels.
00:17:04.240 Now, and I think that's what this visit reflects, is the president's belief that no matter what our disagreements and differences may be with the Chinese government, this is not some small country.
00:17:14.860 This is the second largest economy in the world and a pretty substantial military that's undergoing the most rapid military buildup probably in history.
00:17:23.040 And by the way, a country that we also have very strong points of friction with when it comes to trade and supply chains and critical minerals and things of this nature.
00:17:32.860 So I think it's just responsible statecraft for our leaders to speak and meet with one another.
00:17:38.160 And that's the way we view it.
00:17:39.700 That's the way we view this visit.
00:17:41.100 We had a visit to China.
00:17:42.380 They hosted us earlier this year.
00:17:43.920 Part of the agreement is that we would visit there.
00:17:45.920 They would visit here.
00:17:47.100 And this is the back end of that agreement.
00:17:49.820 And there'll be an opportunity for them to interact again potentially later this year, both at APEC in China and at the G20 in Florida.
00:17:57.560 so there you have it a throwdown there from marco rubio making it very clear that those who are
00:18:04.380 criticizing president trump bringing president g to america well as he described it let me just
00:18:09.140 say it to you this way the u.s and china are probably the two most powerful militaries in
00:18:13.460 the world the idea we would not interact with them at the highest levels is irresponsible it's
00:18:18.580 outrageous we have to and that is well the precursors for what we have today a massive
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