Dems Make Clear： They Support Open Borders MUCH MORE than They Care about Ukraine
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Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Ben Fergus Fergus (D-New York) join host Jake Tapper (R) to discuss the latest on the ongoing stalemate in Congress, including the White House's response to a request for more money for Ukraine and the border, and an update on the impeachment process.
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It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you as well.
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And we have a lot to talk about on this episode, including Zelensky coming to Washington, begging
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for more money that involves Ukraine funding, which involves funding at the border, which
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And if that's not enough for you, we also have an update on impeachment moving its way
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Senator, let's go back to the very beginning, and it was a wild day on Capitol Hill.
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The thread that we've seen of kind of headlines here from the Democrats is, you must stand
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with them no matter what, forever in portuity, amen.
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And you can't ask questions about where the money's going or transparency.
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And how dare you Republicans tie this to border security?
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Well, Zelensky's coming to Washington yesterday was designed.
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It's a manifestation of the Democrats not living in reality.
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Chuck Schumer does not believe that Republicans are serious about securing the border.
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And I've got to say, the supplemental bill on Ukraine, the border, and Israel, the entire
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And I think it is very possible this thing will not pass for a long time.
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Because Schumer and the Democrats, they're living in an alternate reality.
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And they're just assuming Republicans will cave.
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Now, sadly, that is a reasonable assumption in a lot of instances.
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Senate Republicans in particular are pretty quick to cave.
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I don't think that's going to happen in this instance.
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And Schumer and the Democrats don't believe it.
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And so Zelensky came this week to Washington because they're trying to bludgeon Republicans
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into saying Ukraine really, really, really needs the money.
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Rather than, look, there have been a lot of Republicans, House Republicans have made very
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clear, there will be no Ukraine bill without serious, strong border security.
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And right now, the Democrats are saying, we won't do border security, but give us the
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It was also something that the new Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, referred to.
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He said, look, they basically went silent when referring to negotiations with Republicans
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Take a listen to what he had to say on Fox News.
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Significant steps that are happening, negotiations still going on with Secretary Mayorkas and others
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You know, if we're going to have a national security package of spending, national security
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begins at our own border, this is about our own sovereignty, these are policy changes that
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could be easily made, but the White House has been very reluctant.
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They really went silent on us all of this time.
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Now, I've been the Speaker for a little over six weeks, almost seven weeks, and since the
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day I was handed the gavel, I've been saying that this was the condition, that we had to
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It's been sitting on the desk of Chuck Schumer ever since.
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They've not taken us seriously, and here we are at the end of the year, and now they're
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Yeah, here is Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on the timing of all of this.
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They're leaving at the end of the week, so all I have said is practically impossible, even
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though we reach an agreement, to craft it, get it through the Senate, get it through the
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And even though we've been emphasizing the border, I want to remind everybody of the importance
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So, just logistically, would you send the House home and then call them back if there's a deal,
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Look, the House will do its work if there was a deal, but it has not materialized.
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And as of tonight, they have given us the cold shoulders.
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What I believe is the top priority of the American people, it doesn't matter where I've been in
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the country over the last few weeks, Brett, whether I'm in New York or the southeast or
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They're deeply concerned about what's happening.
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We had 12,000 people come over that border one day last week and Wednesday.
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If you look at the statistics from October, November, and so far in December, more people
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have crossed that border illegally since any entire year during the Obama administration.
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It is harming our country in ways that are hard to describe, and we have to get on top.
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You hear the Senate Majority Leader there, obviously Mitch McConnell, implying like, hey,
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So, if they think this is going to get done before Christmas, that's just not reality.
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Then you have the Speaker saying the White House went silent on us on border package, and
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he said the policy change is easily made, but the White House has been very reluctant
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Why is it this much of a hell-bent answer from the Democrats not to secure a southern
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You talked about 12,000 coming across just last Wednesday alone.
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Because the Democrats right now are in a state of denial.
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Two weeks ago, we had a classified briefing in the Senate, had every senator in there.
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And the entire purpose of the briefing was to say, Ukraine really, really, really needs
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Now, on the Republican side, the Republican position for a long time has been, this bill
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And so, right at the outset, when we got to the questions, most of the briefing is questions
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Republicans began to make clear, all right, well, where are we on border security?
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And Chuck Schumer, what happened is something I've never seen before.
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There was a screaming match down in the skiff, down in the secure facility where we're having
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the classified briefing, where senators are screaming at the top of their lungs at each
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And what precipitated it is Schumer sat back and crossed his arms and he was defiant.
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He was like, no, we are not doing border security.
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And Schumer bizarrely believes that that is a reasonable and viable negotiating position.
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David Cameron, you'll remember, was the former prime minister of the United Kingdom.
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Yeah, he's now he's now the foreign minister of the United Kingdom.
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This time, he's foreign minister instead of prime minister.
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And often when you have heads of state or senior officials from foreign countries, they
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will sit down and meet for coffee with the members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
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And so I'm on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
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It's in a very cool, it's a ceremonial room in the Capitol that is the Foreign Relations
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They put a tablecloth on this this table that's, you know, 100 plus years old.
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And you sit around talking with the head of state or, in this case, the British foreign
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He was part of the lobbying effort to say, you got to give money to Ukraine.
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So I was near the end of the order of the senators who were commenting or speaking.
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And so I heard senator after senator, mostly Democrats, just saying everything is wonderful
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and peachy keen and we're going to vote out more Ukraine funding and it's going to happen.
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And at one point, Bob Menendez, Democrat from New Jersey, he was talking about, he mentioned
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And he said, look, the border, the problem there is there's a lot of poverty in Latin
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And that's really, we're never going to fix this until we cure poverty in Central and
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So that's what we need to do is make them rich countries and we won't have that problem.
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And I said, said to Cameron, I said, listen, number one, it's not your job to try to resolve
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You're here representing the government of the United Kingdom.
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However, you should know, because you have a distinct interest in knowing this, that right
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And the reason you just heard, you just heard a bunch of Democrats blowing smoke up your
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And so I actually relayed the story to Cameron about what had happened the preceding week in
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the classified briefing where Schumer had defiantly said we'll do nothing and people had screamed
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And I said, I said to Cameron, listen, I don't know what is wrong with my Democrat colleagues.
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But number one, the chances of a bill that funds Ukraine and doesn't secure the border,
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the chances of that passing the House are 0.00%.
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Mike Johnson's been saying that from the day he became Speaker.
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And Schumer and the Democrats are just in complete denial.
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I can tell you the Senate Republican conference is as unified on this issue as I've ever seen it.
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You played a minute ago the clip from Mitch McConnell.
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Mitch McConnell may be the biggest Ukraine hawk among the Republicans.
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He wants to fund Ukraine and even Mitch is holding firm on this.
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We don't have any defectors on the Republican side.
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And the bizarre thing is Schumer is just in utter denial and the other Democrats are as well.
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And by the way, I pointed out, you know, Menendez said, well, gosh, it's just poverty in Latin America.
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I said, with all due respect to what Bob said, you know what?
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There's been poverty in Latin America a long time.
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When Biden came into power, he inherited the lowest rate of illegal immigration in 45 years.
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The reason for the crisis is Joe Biden and his administration refused to follow the law.
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They've implemented catch and release and the numbers have skyrocketed 9.6 million illegal aliens have crossed under Joe Biden.
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And what I said at this this coffee with the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, I said, listen, Eric Adams, the liberal Democrat mayor of New York City,
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says that one hundred and ten thousand illegal immigrants in New York City are a crisis and they are destroying New York City.
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But if one hundred and ten thousand are doing that to New York City, what in the hell do you think nine point six million are doing to Texas and the other states on the southern border?
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And the bizarre thing is, listen, I had multiple conversations with my Democrat colleagues today.
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They still believe, oh, we'll reach a deal on this.
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You know, one one Democrat senator suggested to me, well, well, maybe the White House will agree to reinstate Title 42.
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We still had the worst illegal immigration in history.
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And they got Title 42 with that was because some of you may not remember.
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So Title 42 was a law that allowed individuals to be sent back because of covid.
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And so it was the one area where Biden was not practicing catch and release, where there was some limited deportation.
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And then they ended Title 42 and they decided, OK, everyone gets to stay, basically.
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Um, the problem that goes right to the heart of this, why do we have a border crisis?
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Joe Biden unilaterally ended the Remain in Mexico agreement and began when people got apprehended, they released them.
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As long as we do catch and release, the border will not be secure.
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And by the way, you could build a hundred foot tall wall and put 10 million troops on the southern border.
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If you did catch and release, you'd still have a border crisis.
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Because when the people crossed and turned themselves into the 10 million soldiers, Joe Biden would then release them.
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It doesn't matter how many Border Patrol agents or how much military you have, if the administration releases whoever they apprehend, because as long as that happens, more and more and more keep coming.
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You know, something else that's interesting, Senator, about what you were just talking about with the Democrats and them not understanding the reality of the situation is, there was Senator Raphael Warnock.
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He went on MSNBC and made it very clear that he said, you know, this is the Republicans' fault.
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This is Republicans not willing to support Ukraine.
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And cynically, he called it using the border issue.
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I want you to hear two things here that made me laugh.
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One, the hysterical bowing down to Warnock introduction.
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And then the second thing is, is him trying to go on offense against Republicans with a terrible argument.
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It's helpful to have a pastor around, even better, if they're also a senator.
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And joining me now is Senator and Reverend Raphael Warnock of Georgia, senior pastor at Dr. King's Church, Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta.
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You see something that's taking the preacher's voice, but I'll do my best.
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But let's talk about all of the, let's go through a few of the things.
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In the House, as well as some in the United States Senate, there is this resistance to providing funding for Ukraine, which is still suffering this attack from Russia, trying to trade things like border, a border policy, border security for funding.
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J.D. Vance saying basically that Ukraine should cede land and cut a deal.
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What in the world is going on on the other side of the aisle?
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I'll tell you, this is politics in the worst sense of the word.
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There is no replacement for American leadership in the world.
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I have had occasion now on a few opportunities to hear President Zelensky, to meet him.
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And I think he's just a very impressive person who is standing up in a critical moment, not only for his country, but in terms of the world order.
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And it's unfortunate that I've got colleagues who are reducing such an important geopolitical crisis to typical political horse trading.
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Look, there are issues at the border and they need to be addressed.
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I, for one, am open to any reasonable bipartisan proposal that will get there on the way to what we really need is comprehensive immigration reform.
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But this is one of the most fraught issues in our political system.
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And so, unfortunately, not everybody, not all the Republicans, but on the other side, you have some Republicans who are not willing to support Ukraine no matter what.
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Yeah. And so they're just using this issue of the border, which is very serious in the most cynical way.
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I hope that at the end of the day, cooler heads will prevail.
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Certainly, we don't want to see American soldiers on the ground as Putin continues his aggressive move across Europe.
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I think it only makes sense for us to support our friends in Ukraine.
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By the way, I just have to go to the very end part there when he says, well, it's almost like a weird threat.
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And this is like the third or fourth time I've heard this this week from Democrats.
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Well, if you guys don't give the funding, you may see American troops over there.
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So you should really give this funding, because if you don't, then it's your fault that we have to send American troops.
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That is the most messed up negotiating I've ever seen from Democrats.
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And I've seen a lot of pretty crappy stuff. You've seen more being in Washington Center.
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But that's a whole nother level of vile politics that I just don't I can't believe they're even trying it.
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Well, look, you got to understand that those comments that that that Raphael Wardock made were filled with hypocrisy and sadly with dishonesty.
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You know, it started right at the beginning by emphasizing that he's a pastor.
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It's true. Although I'll tell you, I've never seen a pastor that refuses to say Merry Christmas, that he insists on saying Happy Holidays,
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because it turns out more important than being a pastor is he's a Democrat and Merry Christmas is not allowed for Democrats to say.
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But but but then when he gets into the substance, he gets very moralistic about American leadership on Ukraine.
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You know what Raphael Warnock didn't mention, that it was Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer that caused the war in Ukraine when they refused to vote in favor of my sanctions to sanction Nord Stream 2.
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I had shut down Nord Stream 2. I had passed legislation that shut it down.
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And on the day of the vote, Joe Biden came personally to Capitol Hill and lobbied the Democrat senators.
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Now, actually, Raphael Warnock voted with me, but 44 Democrats flipped their votes at Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer's behest and voted in favor of Russia and Putin and against sanctioning the pipeline.
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And weeks later, Russia invaded Ukraine. So he admitted no responsibility for his own party in causing this war.
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He also admitted no responsibility of the Biden administration for funding both sides of this war,
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for sending billions of dollars to Iran that is used to make drones that Russia is using to kill Ukrainian soldiers,
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that right now Biden is literally funding both sides of the war. He admits no fault there.
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Instead, he moralizes. And he says on the border he's open to reasonable, quote, bipartisan solutions.
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Raphael Warnock and the rest of the Democrats have voted every single time over and over and over again
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in favor of open borders against anything to secure the border.
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They have not budged even once. And I will say I will invite Raphael, I will invite any of my Democratic colleagues.
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Come with me to the border. See the dead bodies that Texas farmers and ranchers find every day.
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Look in the eyes of the children who are being sexually assaulted and brutalized by the human traffickers.
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Look in the eyes of the women who've been violently raped.
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Look in the eyes of the parents who've had kids who they've lost to fentanyl and drug overdoses because of the drug traffickers.
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This is an existential crisis. And you hear him saying, well, it's just playing politics.
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Listen, the position of Republicans quite reasonably is that we're not going to focus on securing Ukraine's border
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until we secure our own border, because right now, Joe Biden and the Democrats, led by Chuck Schumer,
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have an open invitation to Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists to cross our southern border.
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I think it is only a matter of time before we see tragically another major terrorist attack,
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because this administration is doing nothing to prevent terrorists from coming in.
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And they've sat by and allowed 9.6 million to come into this country.
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You know, the other day, and this is in the clip we played a moment ago, there was, I think it was, what did you say,
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12,000, 13,000 legal immigrants that came across the border?
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When you have 12,000 people coming across the border in one day, terrorists are not stupid.
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They understand that that means there's a very good chance that you'll be able to get terrorists in,
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because a lot of the 12,000 are people that want to be, are turning themselves into the U.S. government
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And, Ben, that 12,000 doesn't include the gotaway.
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So as concerning as the 12,000 is, the number that is more concerning are the gotaways,
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Those are the ones that are likely to be the criminals, that are likely to be the terrorists,
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that are on the terror watch list, that are the gang members.
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Those are the ones that are really dangerous, and we have no idea.
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What we do know, and what this podcast has covered, is the border patrol agents have been instructed
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to be on guard for Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists coming in.
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What we do know is Chris Wray, the director of the FBI, has suddenly discovered that there's a risk
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in our southern border, and his testimony in Congress has changed dramatically in recent months
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about the risk of terrorism for the southern border, and the only reasonable explanation
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for that is the FBI is seeing more and more that has them worried about what's coming
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because this administration won't secure the border.
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Senator, I also want to play something else, and this goes back to the issue you were talking
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And there was one Democrat that actually made me laugh.
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They were talking about that at the bottom of the screen, it said Russia's war on Ukraine,
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And they had on a House Democrat by the name of Representative Moulton.
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And he was actually telling a lot of truth about the Democrats and what their real objective
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And there's words I want everybody to listen for here.
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I want you to listen to how he talks about a pathway to citizenship and how he loves the
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number of illegal immigrants coming across our border.
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And he's saying, look, I'm not willing to give that up just to give funding to Ukraine,
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It's incredible to hear from President Zelensky today, say that the Ukrainian economy has grown
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five percent this year, this after now its second year in brutal war with Russia, that
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obviously sending a message to lawmakers here that their help has been effective and warranted
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You know, we talk a lot about Republicans not wanting to continue funding Ukraine, at least
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The president making clear last week that he is willing to negotiate on border security
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and take that issue seriously with more investments.
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How is that sitting with some members of your own party who may be worried, as has been reported,
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And I think there are a lot of members of my Democratic Party that recognize we have to
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do more on the border, that we need to strengthen the border.
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But we don't want to scuttle what we fundamentally need when it comes to immigration policy in the United
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States, which is a full immigration deal, a deal that not only includes what Republicans want, which is increased
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border security, but also what Democrats want, which is a pathway to citizenship, some hope for all the kids, for example, who were brought here years ago by their parents and yet are sitting in legal limbo through no fault of their own.
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They go to American schools, they go to American schools, they participate in the American economy, and yet they're not technically legal citizens.
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The vast majority of Americans, Republicans and Democrats, want a fix for that problem as well.
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But Republicans in Congress aren't willing to do it unless it's paired with border security.
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So the concern is that if the president bargains away what the Republicans want on border security just to get aid on Ukraine, then it imperils the chances of what we really need on immigration, which is full comprehensive reforms.
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And a reminder for our viewers, this isn't just about aid to Ukraine.
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Obviously, this bill includes funding for Israel and Taiwan as well.
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I mean, you just got to laugh like it's like, all right, well, at least that guy was willing to tell you the truth.
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Oh, and then we'll get to the issue of funding for Israel at the very end of the conversation, which, by the way, you and I need to talk about in length in a second.
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I mean, this is at least a Democrat saying, yeah, we're all in favor of illegals coming across the border at these rates.
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And we need to give them a pathway to citizenship.
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You know, there's an old line that a gaffe is when a politician tells the truth in Washington.
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He says, well, it's Republicans that want to secure the border.
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You know, Democrats occasionally claim they do.
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In fact, you just played Warnock claiming he did.
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But but Moulton is admitting, no, we don't care about that.
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What do we care about turning every illegal alien we can into a Democrat voter?
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Seth Moulton is someone who holds himself out as one of the more moderate Democrats.
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So he typically is not lumped in with the crazies on the left.
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And even a so-called moderate Democrat, he's like, we don't care about border security.
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And by the way, he says he wants hope for the kids.
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Well, what about hope for the little boys and the little girls who are being brutalized,
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Right now, today, there are children being assaulted by human traffickers.
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And if a bunch of children have to be violated, that is a perfectly acceptable price.
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I talked about on Verdict the last time we were down there, the 10-year-old girl that
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had an adult man who claimed to be her father and obviously wasn't.
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And when you've seen children being abused day after day, you can't turn a blind eye to it.
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The entire Democrat Party, that is their position.
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And right at the end, the CNN host, I loved it through it.
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Well, don't forget, this is also about Israel funding without mentioning, because of course,
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They are propagandists for the left wing of the Democrat Party.
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The House of Representatives passed funding for Israel, separate, completely separate from
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And the Senate, as we talked about in length on Verdict on a previous podcast, I and several
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other senators forced a vote on the Senate floor to pass Israel funding separate from
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Chuck Schumer whipped against military funding for Israel.
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And by the way, he did this after several Democrat senators had just come from the National
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They went and walked onto the Senate floor and voted against military funding for Israel.
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Because they knew the useful idiots at CNN and at The Washington Post and The New York
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So, yes, it is true we don't have military aid to Israel that has passed yet.
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Let's talk about that Israeli funding because this is really important.
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Obviously, as you mentioned, Democrats said hell no to it.
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No one, not a single Democrat would go with you guys.
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And how desperate is the need from Israel at this point?
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It's amazing that Democrats are going all in with Ukraine and the corruption there, asking
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Whereas, in Israel, there's none of those questions that need to be asked.
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And even the White House now is starting to distance themselves from Israel, changing
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their tune a little bit over the last couple of days, which is what I expected.
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Well, look, the one word I disagree with that you said there is you said even the White House.
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Listen, we've outlined at length on this podcast how how this White House is the most anti-Israel
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And Joe Biden and this White House have been undermining Israel from the day Biden was sworn
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And we've outlined from the very first minutes of this attack on October 7th.
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This White House has been undermining Israel, has been urging Israel, do not retaliate,
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do not attack Hamas, do not kill the terrorists.
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From day one, the State Department, the State Department literally tweeted that out on the
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While people were still being murdered, while women and children were being raped, the State
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Department is tweeting out, Israel, do not respond militarily, do not kill the terrorists.
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The White House doesn't really care about the Israel funding.
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In fact, we know they don't, because if they cared about it, we'd pass it as a freestanding
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It has the votes to pass as a freestanding bill.
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But their only interest on Israel funding is to use it as a sweetener to try to convince
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Republicans to fund the rest of the Democrats' priorities.
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And their focus is on Ukraine, but it's interesting.
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If you want to take away from what we've seen over the last six weeks in Washington, it's
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that the Democrats are much, much more committed to open borders than they are to the war in
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And they're willing to abandon funding for Ukraine in order to keep the tragedy of open
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That is a higher priority for them, and it's incredibly revealing because they self-righteously
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And look, you look at why Zelensky came this week.
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It's Chuck Schumer trying to browbeat Republicans into saying, give us what we want, even though
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Senator, I want to also move to one other subject real quick that I think is obviously an important one.
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And that is to give an update on what's going on now with impeachment.
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We've seen the House Committee is going to vote on impeachment.
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The House Speaker, Mike Johnson, says the White House is impeding the investigation to President Joe Biden.
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And the next step will be a vote to formalize an impeachment inquiry.
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This also, as Fox News is reporting, that Hunter Biden received $250,000 wires originating in Beijing
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with a beneficiary address listed as Joe Biden's home.
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This is all about, as the House Oversight Committee put it, the Biden's influence peddling
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And it's also going to give Republicans more power.
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Explain why this vote is important to happen now.
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It is a vote on a resolution formalizing the impeachment inquiry into President Biden.
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And previously, the House had not scheduled that vote because it wasn't clear that they
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And so Kevin McCarthy, when he was Speaker, he didn't schedule it because it looked like
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What Republicans are telling the press, at least, is it looks like the votes are there.
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And so a number of the Republicans who are in blue districts that Biden carried are now
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So, for example, Mike Garcia in California said, quote, there is enough substantiation to
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And, quote, the executive branch made clear they're not going to cooperate with the inquiry
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Another one, Mark Molinaro, who's a Republican from New York, again in a district Biden carried,
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said, quote, Congress has every responsibility to provide oversight.
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The White House and the president have yet to comply with requests for information and
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subpoenas, adding that he is, quote, inclined to support the measure.
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And another Republican from New York, again in a district, and in fact, the most Democrat-leaning
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district of any Republican, Anthony Desposito, said that he will vote to authorize the inquiry.
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And so what we are hearing is that the votes are there.
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And the resolution directs the House Oversight, Judiciary, and Ways and Means Committees to,
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quote, continue their ongoing investigations as a part of the existing House of Representatives
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inquiry into whether sufficient grounds exist to impeach Biden.
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And so formally voting this for this is a significant step forward.
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And we will discuss on the next verdict what happens when the vote happens later today.
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Don't forget, you can listen to this show Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, plus our week
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