Verdict with Ted Cruz - April 05, 2024


Historic & Tragic： Democrats Turn Their Backs on Israel, Demand that they Stop Killing Hamas Terrorists


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Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) sits down with Ben Shapiro (D-VA) to discuss the Democratic Party's attack on Israel, and the lack of support from the White House and Congress for an Israeli attack on Hamas in Gaza.

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00:00:05.420 Welcome.
00:00:06.160 It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.
00:00:08.300 Senator, this show is a really important show,
00:00:11.660 and it's one that I want to say on the front end.
00:00:13.760 I hope people will take this and put it on social media
00:00:17.040 because it's an important issue that you said we need to dedicate an entire episode to,
00:00:21.540 and that is talking about what's going on with Israel and the Democratic Party going after them.
00:00:27.460 Well, that's exactly right.
00:00:28.980 We are here at a momentous time.
00:00:31.660 The Democrat Party is turning hard against the state of Israel.
00:00:35.500 The White House is turning hard against Israel.
00:00:38.360 Joe Biden personally is turning hard against Israel.
00:00:41.300 The media is turning hard against Israel.
00:00:44.060 We are seeing an historic pivot away from our enormous friend and ally in the Middle East,
00:00:51.540 the state of Israel, and that is consequential.
00:00:54.040 It is consequential for Israel.
00:00:55.580 It is consequential for Hamas. 0.97
00:00:57.020 It is consequential for Hezbollah. 0.96
00:00:58.340 It is consequential for Iran. 0.62
00:00:59.940 It is consequential for the entirety of the Middle East.
00:01:02.800 It is consequential for the world.
00:01:04.700 And what is striking, while the White House is actively undermining and abandoning Israel,
00:01:11.220 every Democrat in the Senate and the House is sitting silently by and allowing that to happen.
00:01:18.040 And this is a podcast.
00:01:19.560 We're going to do a deep dive onto that.
00:01:21.440 But it is a very, very sad moment, I believe.
00:01:25.140 Yeah, no doubt about it.
00:01:26.300 And even shocking words coming from the White House presser today.
00:01:29.100 We're going to start with that in a moment.
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00:03:07.500 Senator, there was something that was said at the White House today from White House Press
00:03:12.340 Secretary Jean-Pierre, and she said, we know how to deal with terrorists now, and we're
00:03:17.380 going to tell Israel what they need to do.
00:03:19.300 Here is the new idea.
00:03:20.760 We believe there has to be alternative ways to deal with Hamas in Gaza, as we're specifically 0.99
00:03:28.480 in Rafah.
00:03:29.740 A military operation that we believe is not the way to move forward.
00:03:33.540 There is an active conversations happening with the Israeli government and obviously our
00:03:38.280 government, and I think that's important.
00:03:40.640 Senator, I'm going to take the bait.
00:03:42.560 I'm going to ask you the question.
00:03:44.600 How is there an alternative, and what is an alternative way to deal with actual terrorists
00:03:49.300 that say they want to annihilate you, and from the river to the sea, they want you to all be dead?
00:03:55.240 Well, let me give you the non-alternative way. 1.00
00:03:58.380 The non-alternative way is to kill them, is to eliminate Hamas, to kill the terrorists, 1.00
00:04:03.040 to kill the people that murdered 1,200 Israelis, to kill the people that murdered over 30 Americans, 1.00
00:04:07.420 to kill the people that raped little girls and raped women, to kill the people that burned 1.00
00:04:11.700 babies alive, that burned infants, to kill the vicious anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, anti-America 1.00
00:04:18.500 terrorists that pledged to murder as many of us as possible. 1.00
00:04:21.540 That's the non-alternative ways.
00:04:23.340 Now, let me just ask you a question, Ben.
00:04:25.420 What the hell is she talking about? 0.69
00:04:26.940 There's an alternative way to deal with Hamas terrorists. 0.98
00:04:29.300 I don't know.
00:04:30.020 Maybe we sit down in a circle with them.
00:04:32.480 We hug them.
00:04:33.120 We put little robes on them.
00:04:34.640 We put flowers in our hair.
00:04:36.320 We sing Kumbaya.
00:04:37.340 Maybe that's the way to do it. 1.00
00:04:38.720 Like, what idiocy is this? 1.00
00:04:41.280 These are psychopathic, homicidal, genocidal maniacs. 1.00
00:04:46.640 And here's the problem. 0.99
00:04:49.020 You know what there's an alternative way to deal with?
00:04:51.480 Trump is left-wing Democrat activists that the White House is terrified about.
00:04:55.860 And so what are they doing?
00:04:56.980 They're abandoning Israel. 0.83
00:04:58.040 Let me say Israel is exactly right. 0.99
00:04:59.960 They should eliminate Hamas. 0.95
00:05:01.360 And every Hamas terrorist they eliminate is saving the lives of Israelis. 0.99
00:05:05.800 And it's saving the lives of Americans.
00:05:08.360 That is a statement.
00:05:10.200 I want you to understand.
00:05:11.700 Let's say you're a Democrat at home.
00:05:13.360 Look, we don't have a ton of Democrats that listen to this podcast.
00:05:15.620 But I actually think we have some.
00:05:17.620 We try on this podcast.
00:05:19.060 By the way, I encourage people all the time when I talk to high schools, when I talk to
00:05:23.280 colleges, when I talk to people that are nonpartisan, I say, listen, you want to know what's going
00:05:28.540 on in the world?
00:05:29.820 Here's part of the problem.
00:05:30.920 The media is all biased.
00:05:32.160 It's all partisan.
00:05:33.120 It's all ideological.
00:05:34.360 So if you only listen to CNN or MSNBC, you'll only get part of the news.
00:05:38.660 And by the way, if you only listen to Fox News or Newsmax or Right of Center media, you'll
00:05:43.020 only get part of the news.
00:05:44.300 What I do is I try to listen across the spectrum.
00:05:47.660 So what I encourage people to do is I tell high school kids and college kids this.
00:05:51.880 I said, I'll tell you what.
00:05:53.300 Take a month.
00:05:54.820 Listen to every episode of Verdict.
00:05:57.240 And then also that same month, listen to every episode of some left-wing podcast.
00:06:02.300 I don't care.
00:06:03.000 Pod Save America.
00:06:04.040 Some, you know, I don't know, whatever commie piece.
00:06:07.080 There are enough of them out there.
00:06:08.740 You can pick something.
00:06:09.580 There's enough of them, yeah.
00:06:10.060 But listen to both sides.
00:06:12.480 And I don't know if anyone has ever taken me up on that request, but I hope they have.
00:06:17.040 I hope they're listening to both sides.
00:06:18.800 So if you're a Democrat listening to this, I want you to ask yourself, do you think America
00:06:25.000 should stand with Israel?
00:06:26.460 And if we should, what do you think is the, quote, alternative way to deal with Hamas terrorists? 0.76
00:06:32.760 I don't know of any other way other than the way Israel is trying to do, which is to eliminate 1.00
00:06:38.200 them, to defeat them, to kill them. 0.99
00:06:40.280 But apparently the Biden White House has something else in mind. 0.99
00:06:43.280 You see, I've got like seven different questions for you, Senator.
00:06:46.440 I've been wanting to ask you all day.
00:06:47.400 So I'm just going to go through a couple of them quickly.
00:06:50.160 Number one, when I heard this, I was angry.
00:06:52.700 But then I said, OK, what is the alternative?
00:06:54.300 It sounds like, and this is one way you could take it, she's now saying you need to negotiate
00:07:00.540 with terrorists that actually have hostages right now.
00:07:04.460 That's what it seems like she's saying.
00:07:05.980 And I thought America's foreign policy was we don't actually negotiate with terrorists.
00:07:10.560 They have Americans, by the way, that they're still holding hostage right now as well.
00:07:15.400 So then the second question I have for you, Senator, is this.
00:07:18.380 How much money are we supposed to give them?
00:07:20.280 Because I'm assuming if there's an alternative way to deal with Hamas, that means, OK, we're 0.99
00:07:24.680 going to bribe you.
00:07:25.800 Am I wrong?
00:07:26.940 You're not entirely wrong, but you don't have anywhere near close to the scope of it.
00:07:31.680 Sadly, let me tell you what the Biden White House means.
00:07:34.080 The alternative way to deal with them is, number one, allow them to live, allow them to
00:07:38.420 prosper, allow them to succeed.
00:07:40.800 Do not kill the terrorists who murdered Israelis. 0.83
00:07:44.220 Do not kill the terrorists who murdered Americans. 1.00
00:07:46.200 Do not kill the terrorists who raped little girls and raped women. 1.00
00:07:50.280 And do not kill the terrorists who murdered infants. 1.00
00:07:52.520 But they also, it's not just don't kill them. 0.99
00:07:56.260 Give them a state. 0.99
00:07:59.340 Reward them.
00:08:00.240 Remember, the White House is trying to say the reward for October 7th should be a two-state
00:08:05.700 solution.
00:08:06.240 The two-state should be create a Palestinian state.
00:08:09.060 By the way, they had a two-state solution.
00:08:11.600 Gaza was run by Hamas.
00:08:13.220 Israel was not in Gaza.
00:08:14.480 They were in control of it.
00:08:15.700 It's a popular talking point on the left.
00:08:17.580 Oh, it was an open-air concentration site. 1.00
00:08:19.840 What utter imbecility. 1.00
00:08:22.700 The Palestinians ran the Gaza Strip. 1.00
00:08:25.120 They were in charge of it.
00:08:25.960 The Israelis weren't there. 0.99
00:08:26.880 They could do whatever they wanted.
00:08:28.360 The reason it was a hellhole is because Hamas ran it. 0.99
00:08:31.880 And by the way, Hamas ran it because when the Palestinians had elections, the Palestinians
00:08:36.080 voted for Hamas.
00:08:37.220 So at some level, listen, Hamas has wreaked havoc and suffering and misery on the Palestinian
00:08:43.280 people.
00:08:43.660 But at some level, a majority of them bear responsibility for that because when they went 0.90
00:08:48.960 to the polls and voted, they said, yeah, the psycho terrorists, that's who we want running 0.92
00:08:52.860 things. 0.73
00:08:53.200 Now, here's what Biden is saying.
00:08:55.420 Because you engage in one of the worst acts of mass murder of Jews, in fact, the single
00:09:01.460 worst mass murder of Jews in a day since the Holocaust, because you engage in horrific 0.85
00:09:06.840 terrorism, because you murdered over 30 Americans, we're going to reward you and expand your territory 0.54
00:09:12.840 and give you control and give you power and elevate you and treat you as a statesman.
00:09:16.940 And by the way, in about a year, they'll give you the Nobel Peace Prize as a psychotic 0.89
00:09:20.740 terrorist.
00:09:22.120 That's what they mean by a different way, is literally we will show every terrorist in 1.00
00:09:28.760 the world, you want what you want, commit horrific acts of mass murder, and get the idiots in 1.00
00:09:36.400 the press and the pacifistic, appeasing, cheese-eating surrender monkeys of the Democrat Party to give 1.00
00:09:45.520 you what you want. 0.99
00:09:46.440 And all you need to do is murder and rape enough people, and they'll give you exactly what you 1.00
00:09:49.680 want. 0.99
00:09:49.900 You know, let's go back to when this attack happened, because I will give credit, in that
00:09:54.820 moment, Joe Biden publicly was very clear that we were standing behind Israel.
00:09:59.480 But the machine behind Joe Biden very clearly came out and wanted to get ahead of him and
00:10:05.780 say, no, no, no, we actually don't.
00:10:08.660 We're calling on Israel to not retaliate even against their 9-11 that happened, the most Jews 1.00
00:10:16.620 have been massacred since the Holocaust, for goodness sakes. 0.91
00:10:19.540 And you called out, quickly remind me, we've talked about it on the show before, but if
00:10:24.220 people may be listening to the show for the first time because they've seen it on social
00:10:27.580 media where people have been posting this about Israel, I want to remind them in the
00:10:30.980 hours after the attack what our government, the machine behind Biden, was doing.
00:10:35.600 Within hours of the attack on October 7th, while people were still being murdered, while the
00:10:42.040 bodies were still warm, the Biden State Department, the Office of Palestinian Affairs, tweeted out
00:10:48.200 a tweet that said, Israel should not retaliate, do not respond with violence, do not respond
00:10:54.360 with warfare, essentially roll over and allow mass murder to happen in your country and do
00:10:59.060 nothing.
00:11:00.040 Now, at three in the morning that night, I called that out and denounced it.
00:11:05.540 And within hours, they retracted the tweet.
00:11:07.480 They deleted it.
00:11:08.300 Yeah.
00:11:08.580 Then the next day, Tony Blinken, the Secretary of State, did the same thing.
00:11:12.620 He said, I just talked with the Turkish foreign minister, and we agreed there should be an
00:11:16.680 immediate ceasefire.
00:11:17.900 The one thing that is critical is Israel should not kill any terrorists.
00:11:21.700 He didn't quite say that, but that's essentially what he said.
00:11:24.420 But I responded again within hours, saying this is disgraceful, this is shameful.
00:11:30.460 And again, the State Department deleted the tweet.
00:11:34.060 So understand, in 48 hours, they sent out two anti-Israel, pro-Hamas tweets.
00:11:39.660 In 48 hours, I called them both out, and in 48 hours, they deleted them both.
00:11:44.260 Early on, when Biden would get in the front of a camera and talk, his actually talking points
00:11:50.860 were pretty good because, listen, Biden is from an older generation of Democrats that
00:11:55.560 they actually said, we should stand with Israel.
00:11:58.400 And Biden is, what, 142 years old?
00:12:01.020 He probably still thinks he's in the 1980s.
00:12:03.600 He repeated those old talking points.
00:12:06.840 Here's the problem.
00:12:08.480 Biden has filled his White House.
00:12:10.080 He's filled his State Department. 0.73
00:12:11.260 He's filled his administration with rabid leftist, anti-Israel, anti-Semites. 0.97
00:12:16.640 They hate Israel. 0.67
00:12:17.440 They believe Israel is an illegitimate occupying force. 0.91
00:12:21.160 They believe the Palestinians. 0.53
00:12:23.140 They believe the Hamas terrorists are noble freedom fighters, and they side with Hamas. 0.94
00:12:28.640 I'm not exaggerating.
00:12:30.480 And by the way, we've had, among other things, White House interns protesting, State Department
00:12:35.500 interns protesting.
00:12:36.740 Let me be clear.
00:12:38.500 In any sane White House, listen, if I'd been elected president in 2016 and the White House
00:12:43.300 interns protest, the day they protested would be the day they lost their White House badge
00:12:48.600 and they left the White House. 1.00
00:12:49.620 The idiocy of they've hired these 20-year-old radicals who hate Israel. 1.00
00:12:56.740 They have been taught from their Marxist professors, Israel is a colonialist oppressor. 0.99
00:13:01.980 And I got to say, Biden's rhetoric from a yesteryear of the Democrats saying, we stand with Israel
00:13:08.660 to the young, angry, angry leftists made no sense.
00:13:13.140 And let me say to people listening to this, if you're a Democrat, if you're a centrist,
00:13:18.580 but you do support Israel, ask yourself, is there room left in the Democrat Party for
00:13:24.360 their views?
00:13:25.320 I don't see a whole lot of it.
00:13:27.380 Yeah, you're right.
00:13:27.940 Well, and that brings me to what's happening now.
00:13:30.760 Clearly, the people around Joe Biden have said to him over and over and over and over
00:13:35.260 again that he needs to quiet down on his public support of Israel.
00:13:41.100 And the White House was asked about that.
00:13:42.800 John Kirby was asked about it.
00:13:44.100 And here's how it went down when Peter Doocy asked him at the White House press briefing.
00:13:48.020 Last one then.
00:13:48.760 Where is President Biden on any of this?
00:13:51.440 When he wants to talk about how angry he is or frustrated he is about the high cost of
00:13:57.040 insulin, he comes out and gives an impassioned speech.
00:13:59.940 Where is he on any of this?
00:14:01.640 He's been talking about this.
00:14:03.140 He's been issuing statements on this.
00:14:04.860 In private?
00:14:05.560 No.
00:14:06.360 That statement last I looked was public.
00:14:09.160 But where is he?
00:14:10.120 Why isn't he here right now?
00:14:11.940 I'm sure you'll continue to hear from the president about this and many other national
00:14:15.780 security issues.
00:14:16.520 We got to wrap it up.
00:14:17.720 Go ahead.
00:14:18.300 I love that.
00:14:19.080 You heard John Pierre in the background.
00:14:20.640 We got to wrap this up.
00:14:21.880 We got to wrap this up right now.
00:14:23.880 Actions speak louder than words, right?
00:14:26.160 So if the president has some words on a page about Israel that say something, but he's
00:14:29.360 not saying anything publicly, it's very clear now that the White House has turned basically
00:14:35.420 a 180 and the UN vote from a week ago was was a lot of proof.
00:14:39.920 But now the White House is publicly not supporting Israel.
00:14:44.480 Listen, the UN vote from a week ago was, I believe, orchestrated by the Biden administration.
00:14:49.240 They want the United Nations to condemn Israel.
00:14:51.780 They want the United Nations to call for an immediate ceasefire.
00:14:54.340 And let's be clear.
00:14:55.920 Joe Biden yesterday talked with Benjamin Netanyahu.
00:14:58.960 They put out a press that they put out a readout of the call and they said Biden demanded
00:15:04.460 an immediate ceasefire.
00:15:05.880 Understand the president of the United States is telling Israel, stop killing Hamas terrorists
00:15:11.500 now. 0.71
00:15:12.400 That is their position that you cannot kill any more terrorists. 0.96
00:15:16.540 Why?
00:15:17.300 And listen, it's not a national security reason.
00:15:19.380 It's not an it's not a reason that supports Israel security.
00:15:21.960 It's not a reason that supports America's security.
00:15:24.100 The reason is domestic politics.
00:15:26.540 The angry left wing Democrat Party, the anti-Semites.
00:15:30.540 And let's be clear. 1.00
00:15:31.500 They hate Israel and they hate Jews. 0.94
00:15:33.260 And by the way, I got to say, there are a lot of Jewish Democrats right now in this country 0.92
00:15:36.460 who are facing an existential crisis because they have been Democrats, many of them their
00:15:42.780 entire lives.
00:15:43.620 They vote Democrat.
00:15:44.400 And yet they're seeing people in the Democrat Party who despise Israel. 0.92
00:15:50.580 And let's be clear, who despise Jews.
00:15:54.360 Listen, in the Marxist worldview, as you know, in my book, Unwoke, How to Defeat Cultural Marxism
00:16:00.460 in America, I describe the cultural Marxist view that divides the world into oppressors
00:16:05.980 and victims and the leftists, the leftists at universities, the anti-Semites at universities.
00:16:12.020 They define Jews, not Israelis, Jews.
00:16:15.220 If you are Jewish in America, if you are Jewish in Israel, if you're Jewish anywhere in the 0.59
00:16:19.060 world, the Marxists define you as an oppressor. 0.98
00:16:23.140 You are white. 0.98
00:16:24.220 You are a capitalist. 0.57
00:16:25.220 You are wealthy. 0.99
00:16:25.980 You are an oppressor.
00:16:26.940 That is their worldview.
00:16:28.060 And by the way, if you're not, they think you probably want to be.
00:16:30.740 Lisa, you're an oppressor too.
00:16:31.820 And they define Palestinians, all Palestinians, and especially Hamas terrorists, as victims.
00:16:39.520 And the cultural Marxists support the violent, aggressive revolution of the so-called victims
00:16:47.140 against the so-called oppressors.
00:16:48.680 And so the leftists and the Marxists are celebrating when Hamas murders Israelis, when Hamas murders 0.72
00:16:55.820 Americans, the leftists in the Democrat Party are celebrating.
00:17:00.480 And this is what Joe Biden, this is what Chuck Schumer, and sadly, this is what every Democrat
00:17:06.640 and House member on the Democrat side in the Senate and House are supporting.
00:17:11.860 And let me ask you this.
00:17:13.700 So, Ben, you're a very sophisticated political observer.
00:17:16.740 Have you seen a single Democrat, a single Democrat member of the House, a single Democrat
00:17:22.140 member of the Senate, call out and denounce Joe Biden in this White House for undermining
00:17:28.000 Israel, for supporting Hamas, and for demanding that Israel stop killing Hamas terrorists?
00:17:33.880 No.
00:17:34.240 And not only that, to put it in perspective, with the passing of Joe Biden-
00:17:38.500 Have you seen a reporter ask a Democrat that?
00:17:40.580 Hold on.
00:17:41.460 Yeah.
00:17:42.160 The answer is no.
00:17:43.020 I haven't seen it either.
00:17:44.520 Have you seen one Democrat ask, I'm sorry, one reporter ask a Democrat that?
00:17:49.800 I haven't.
00:17:50.360 I literally have not seen a single Democrat senator, a single Democrat House member ask
00:17:55.480 that in a normal, insane world, there are 535 members of the Senate and the House.
00:18:02.160 Every one of us, myself included, should be asked.
00:18:04.660 Now, my answer, that's easy.
00:18:05.880 You ask me, do I support it?
00:18:07.200 Hell no. 0.99
00:18:07.640 I think it is corrupt and evil and profoundly anti-Israel. 0.99
00:18:10.740 That's my answer.
00:18:11.860 Now, let's start with the remaining 434 and let them get their answers on record.
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00:18:47.880 There's also something else that's been happening.
00:18:50.500 And early on, you saw some members of the squad, the AOCs, Rashid Tlaibs, the more extreme
00:18:59.300 socialists in the Democratic Party.
00:19:01.760 They were anti-Israel from day one.
00:19:04.740 But we saw a shift this last week.
00:19:07.880 And I want you to hear what Elizabeth Warren had to say.
00:19:10.660 Of course, coming from Cambridge, Massachusetts, she goes on CNN.
00:19:15.140 And this is what she had to say about Netanyahu.
00:19:18.480 You talk about Netanyahu needing to be held accountable and things that need to happen
00:19:22.940 now.
00:19:23.420 Last month, you joined a group of Democratic senators basically asking Joe Biden to leverage
00:19:28.600 weapon sales to Israel to pressure Netanyahu to change tactics in Gaza.
00:19:33.740 We know the administration is set to greenlight a huge sale worth upwards of $18 billion to Israel,
00:19:39.120 having to do with a slew of F-15 fighter jets.
00:19:42.860 Do you, Congress can take action now to have a say in that.
00:19:48.220 Do you want Congress to move to block that sale?
00:19:52.940 Well, I think it is clear that Congress has a responsibility to act.
00:19:59.300 We have legal tools here.
00:20:01.080 And as I said, we cannot approve the sale of arms to a country that is in violation of our own laws on this.
00:20:12.140 And that includes access to humanitarian relief.
00:20:16.680 This is a moral question.
00:20:18.840 It is also a legal question.
00:20:21.160 Congress has responsibility here, and I'm willing to take that responsibility.
00:20:24.560 Talk to me more about that, because I've heard a lot of kind of conversations around possibly considering legislation to step in.
00:20:33.920 Are you considering or will you be putting forward legislation, if that's the right term, when it comes to this,
00:20:40.060 to kind of start this process of blocking the sale?
00:20:43.600 So, actually, let's put this in a slightly different context.
00:20:49.780 We already have an established U.S. policy here.
00:20:54.860 How do you enforce that?
00:20:55.740 How do you make the president not green like this? 0.98
00:20:58.720 That's, I think the best we can do here is that we need to all be working together.
00:21:05.060 And that's the president.
00:21:06.820 That's people in Congress.
00:21:08.580 And I am hopeful that when the president talks with Prime Minister Netanyahu,
00:21:14.320 he will be making it clear that support for the actions of the prime minister are not, he's not helping Israel.
00:21:22.860 He is not keeping Israel safe.
00:21:24.960 And that he cannot, cannot continue to follow a policy of trying to starve out the people of Gaza.
00:21:32.640 Senator, not just as she's saying, no more aid, military aid to protect them from the terrorists.
00:21:39.600 She then accuses Netanyahu of, quote, trying to starve out the people of Gaza.
00:21:45.200 And that's her last point that she makes there on CNN.
00:21:49.480 And CNN set her up perfectly for this.
00:21:52.540 CNN wants to tell you that.
00:21:53.980 And by the way, you and I did a podcast a couple of months ago that I think is a really important podcast.
00:21:58.720 If you didn't listen to it, you ought to go back and listen to it.
00:22:01.560 Even better, you ought to watch it on YouTube because this was one of our video podcasts.
00:22:05.700 And it was entitled CNN is Hamas's Air Force. 0.72
00:22:08.340 So is MSNBC.
00:22:09.440 So is ABC.
00:22:10.760 CNN is acting as propagandists for Hamas with that.
00:22:13.880 And sadly, a United States senator, my colleague, Elizabeth Warren, was elected the same day I was in November of 2012.
00:22:21.060 She served 12 years just like I have.
00:22:23.400 And but you know what?
00:22:25.140 She was a professor at Harvard Law School, my alma mater, where I went.
00:22:28.120 And Harvard Law School is a pit of rabid leftist, often Marxist thought.
00:22:34.480 And we have seen it festers anti-Semitism.
00:22:38.000 There's a reason Claudine Gay, the president of Harvard, was forced to resign. 0.99
00:22:41.820 There's a reason Harvard has seen their applications plummet because the left despises Israel.
00:22:50.360 And her comments, Israel's not trying to starve at anyone.
00:22:54.220 That is grotesque.
00:22:55.240 That is dishonest.
00:22:56.120 That is false.
00:22:56.780 But understand, the angry lefties, who are Elizabeth Warren's base, hate, hate, hate Israel.
00:23:06.080 They're not neutral.
00:23:07.200 They're not ambiguous.
00:23:08.420 They're not fair.
00:23:09.540 They're not objective.
00:23:11.480 They cheer when pro-Palestinian and pro-Hamas protesters chant from the river to the sea.
00:23:19.680 What does from the river to the sea mean? 0.82
00:23:21.180 It means literally we should annihilate Israel. 0.99
00:23:24.120 There should be no Jewish state on the face of the planet. 1.00
00:23:26.780 That the only thing in the land that is now Israel should be a new Palestinian state where 0.99
00:23:32.700 apparently Jews are not welcome.
00:23:34.900 That is the view of the radicals.
00:23:37.440 And sadly, Elizabeth Warren is not an outlier.
00:23:41.080 Rashida Tlaib is not an outliner.
00:23:43.200 Ilhan Omar is not an outlier.
00:23:45.220 AOC is not an outlier.
00:23:46.720 Their views are reflected by Chuck Schumer and by Joe Biden.
00:23:50.580 This is the so-called mainstream Democrat Party. 0.99
00:23:53.880 They have decided they've looked at the political landscape and they said, oh, crap, the crazy lefties are our base. 0.99
00:24:01.080 We need them to show up. 0.99
00:24:02.720 So Israel, we're willing to abandon. 0.99
00:24:05.480 And that that makes me incredibly sad because it's dangerous.
00:24:11.080 It's dangerous for Israel. 0.97
00:24:12.460 It's dangerous for America.
00:24:13.540 And it's dangerous for the world.
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00:26:07.520 Senator, I also want to ask you something else, and this seems to be becoming a much bigger political issue.
00:26:17.080 There's reporting now that the First Lady, Joe Biden, is urging the president privately.
00:26:21.840 They've leaked this, obviously, so, you know, to make it look like this is really a big issue behind closed doors.
00:26:28.360 Apparently, she's urging the president privately to end the war in Gaza.
00:26:31.960 Stop, stop it now is the quote that has, quote, been leaked.
00:26:36.160 You also have John Kirby saying he won't clarify if Joe Biden wants a ceasefire before or after Hamas releases hostages.
00:26:46.320 There's this happening at the White House as well.
00:26:48.840 Listen.
00:26:49.440 Admiral, could you clarify on the ceasefire language that the president used in the statement?
00:26:56.020 He says that there should be a ceasefire.
00:27:02.040 And then the next, after a comma, it's Irv's prime minister and power negotiators to conclude a deal without delay.
00:27:08.020 So are the two tied together, or is he saying ceasefire right now and then the other thing later?
00:27:14.600 I mean, how immediate is immediate?
00:27:16.640 I can't really improve upon the president's language.
00:27:19.080 We want to see a pause in the fighting.
00:27:20.720 We want to see a ceasefire immediately so that we can get more humanitarian assistance in
00:27:28.000 and create a set of conditions where aid organizations feel better about operating inside Gaza.
00:27:36.660 Because as we've already seen as a result of the attack on the WCK workers that some aid organizations now are pulling back.
00:27:45.680 So we want to see that immediate ceasefire in place.
00:27:47.840 We also, of course, as we've said many times, I think that that could also provide a window here to get the hostages out.
00:27:54.440 Thank you so much.
00:27:55.520 Senator, it seems to me we don't know what the foreign policy is anymore of America with Israel and our ally in Israel
00:28:04.100 because they can't figure out the politics of how to play this in an election year.
00:28:09.260 And they're worried about losing younger voters.
00:28:11.500 So they're trying to play both sides at the bare minimum.
00:28:14.060 But we also could be witnessing for the first time in my lifetime an actual policy change with Israel,
00:28:21.700 maybe not being our great ally in the Middle East.
00:28:24.060 How hard would it be for the president of the United States to stand up and say Hamas needs to release the hostages now?
00:28:34.080 Every American that is a hostage should be released now. 0.88
00:28:37.740 Every Israeli that is a hostage should be released now. 1.00
00:28:41.920 Every woman that you are raping right now should be released today. 1.00
00:28:47.540 And if you don't, we will hunt you down. 1.00
00:28:51.440 We will destroy you. 1.00
00:28:53.120 We will kill you. 1.00
00:28:54.380 That's what a commander in chief who was defending Americans. 1.00
00:28:57.320 How would you feel if it was your family, if it was your mom, if it was your sister, if it was your daughter,
00:29:05.020 if it was your son or father or brother who was trapped in hell, being brutalized day after day after day?
00:29:13.360 Look, I've spoken with the families of these hostages.
00:29:16.820 Some have been released.
00:29:17.860 Some have not.
00:29:18.580 The agony they're feeling in this White House.
00:29:21.600 You know what?
00:29:22.380 I sat on the floor of the House and listened to an entire State of the Union address.
00:29:27.200 I don't remember Joe Biden standing up and saying Hamas, release the hostages now or face the holy fury of the United States of America.
00:29:36.560 He didn't say that because you know what?
00:29:39.440 His angry leftist base would be mad at that.
00:29:41.980 Senator, you and I want to go back in time because it's amazing how quick people forget about what happened on that day.
00:29:50.500 I've met with the Israeli government independently.
00:29:53.780 You've obviously met with them and the representatives countless times.
00:29:58.160 You watched a long version of the atrocities of that day.
00:30:03.200 I have seen more than I wanted to, but I think it was important with the platform that I have to be an advocate for Israel to see it and witness it.
00:30:14.540 And I saw it much more recently.
00:30:16.900 I can't get those images out of out of my head.
00:30:19.980 Just how orchestrated, how barbaric, how evil the people were that were doing these things to, as we talked about, children to the elderly.
00:30:34.040 The elderly has somewhat been overlooked.
00:30:37.020 And I was watching some of this and you watch these elderly people.
00:30:40.860 Not only were they killing the grandfathers and great-grandfathers in front of the great-grandmothers and their kids and grandkids, but they were ripping them away and then taunting because they were going to go after the women.
00:30:55.300 And this was all caught on video.
00:30:58.380 And yet no one seems to be reminding people that those are the hostages that are still being held captive right now.
00:31:06.360 They are.
00:31:08.360 And where is America?
00:31:09.740 America, where is the president?
00:31:11.400 Great point.
00:31:12.280 Where is a Democrat calling for the release of the American hostages?
00:31:16.720 By the way, these are not, many of them are Israelis, but there are multiple American hostages that this White House, AWOL doesn't even begin.
00:31:26.580 It's worse than AWOL.
00:31:28.600 If they were silent, that would be disgraceful.
00:31:32.120 But they're not silent. 0.90
00:31:33.440 They're telling Israel, stop trying to kill the terrorists.
00:31:36.420 Instead, reward the terrorists and give them a nation-state that is stronger than it was before and in a better position to wage war with Israel and to murder innocent civilians going forward. 0.59
00:31:47.400 That is a bizarre way to respond to horrific atrocity carried out by Hamas. 0.86
00:31:53.360 Jen Psaki, White House Press Secretary, she obviously, and this is when you know it's a coordinated and orchestrated effort by talking heads, former White House Press Secretary, people in the media, people at the State Department, people in social media circles on the left, and celebrities and others.
00:32:13.640 This is what she had to say on Israel, on MSNBC.
00:32:18.300 Well, and Jen, it's very easy for people to say the president should do A, the president should do B, C.
00:32:26.480 There is also the very real possibility, and the House, they understand this, if the president turns on Netanyahu, if the president says we're going to stop sending weapons,
00:32:39.640 then Netanyahu actually uses that to gain more power inside of Israel, saying, see, we have been abandoned even by the United States.
00:32:50.520 We have to fight on.
00:32:52.380 That's right, Joe, and I think that's important, too.
00:32:54.880 Look, clearly the strategy that the United States is implementing at this point is not working to change the behavior of Prime Minister Netanyahu.
00:33:02.600 It is not working to end the war.
00:33:04.340 So obviously something has to change.
00:33:06.500 And I think it's pretty clear they're discussing that, I think, in the White House, and I hope in the White House, in the Situation Room at this point in time.
00:33:14.540 The question is what that will be.
00:33:16.280 And there's a number of allies of President Biden's in the Senate, Democratic senators and others who have been pretty outspoken about the need for conditioning aid, at least as a consideration.
00:33:27.700 That's obviously something that is being considered, should be considered.
00:33:30.740 The question is, will that change the behavior and what additional leverage needs to be put on Prime Minister Netanyahu at this point in time to change the trajectory?
00:33:40.200 But you're right.
00:33:40.660 There's a calculation if you're discussing this, if you're the president, if you're the national security team, about what would prompt Prime Minister Netanyahu to be more aggressive, what would prompt him to be less aggressive.
00:33:51.700 Obviously, nothing has worked to date, but it's not as easy as it sounds to make that determination.
00:33:57.360 Senator, not one time did she say anything about putting pressure on Hamas, the terrorist organization, or the Palestinian that are supporting the terrorists to stop them.
00:34:07.260 They're talking about Israel like Israel is the terrorist organization that started all this. 0.77
00:34:13.020 They were the ones that were attacked.
00:34:14.540 Look, they treat Israel as a client state.
00:34:19.680 They treat Israel as the oppressors and understand the base of their party believes Israel's their oppressors.
00:34:26.200 And also get, you know, there's some folks, there's a popular media narrative that, hey, Joe Biden is really pro-Israel, but he's just got a political problem that his party is not.
00:34:37.060 That's actually not accurate.
00:34:38.900 Joe Biden has been undermining Israel for more than 50 years.
00:34:43.140 So let's go back to 1982.
00:34:45.700 1982 was a long time ago.
00:34:48.060 1982, Joe Biden was in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
00:34:53.220 He had a private meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin.
00:34:58.320 And Joe Biden decided to do what he's doing now, to threaten Israel, to threaten, we're going to cut off USAID if Israel did not stop, quote, settlements in Judea and Samaria.
00:35:10.580 So, frankly, the same thing he was saying in 82 is what he's saying now.
00:35:14.200 We don't like Israel. 0.99
00:35:15.140 You don't have any right to settle the land of Israel. 0.99
00:35:18.000 And if you do, we're going to cut you off.
00:35:20.200 And here's what Begin responded to.
00:35:21.500 And this is one of the most famous responses by any Israeli prime minister.
00:35:25.560 And it was in 1982, so a long, long time ago.
00:35:29.500 Here's what Begin said to Joe Biden, then a senator, quote,
00:35:32.420 Don't threaten us with cutting off your aid.
00:35:37.380 It will not work.
00:35:39.760 I am not a Jew with trembling knees.
00:35:43.980 I am a proud Jew with 3,700 years of civilized history.
00:35:51.160 Nobody came to our aid when we were dying in the gas chambers and ovens.
00:35:56.100 Nobody came to our aid when we were striving to create our country.
00:36:01.240 We paid for it.
00:36:03.260 We fought for it.
00:36:05.560 We died for it.
00:36:07.340 We will stand by our principles.
00:36:10.220 We will defend them.
00:36:12.220 And when necessary, we will die for them again, with or without your aid.
00:36:20.700 That's what the prime minister of Israel said to Joe Biden over 40 years ago.
00:36:25.800 You know what?
00:36:27.260 The prime minister of Israel is still saying that to Joe Biden.
00:36:30.360 But sadly, the entire Democrat Party is with Biden, undermining Israel and effectively
00:36:36.800 forming a protective shield around the Hamas terrorists who committed
00:36:42.620 the most unspeakable acts of modern times that we have seen.
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00:38:54.600 Senator, last question for you.
00:38:56.120 And it's a really important one.
00:38:57.520 If the Elizabeth Warrens of the Democratic Party and if the AOCs and Rashid Tlaibs and
00:39:03.220 others are able to flip the script the way it seems like we're going with the help of
00:39:07.720 the media, what happens if, in fact, we don't give the aid needed and the military weaponry
00:39:15.220 needed that Israel is willing to buy from us because this president caves and blocks it?
00:39:21.520 What happens to Israel then? 0.71
00:39:23.140 Well, listen, the Biden administration and the Democrats in the Congress hope that Israel 0.98
00:39:28.940 will give in, that they want to, number one, undermine Benjamin Netanyahu.
00:39:34.580 And I'm not, listen, I'm not being partisan in this.
00:39:37.680 I'm not not intuiting or supposing this.
00:39:40.920 Chuck Schumer said it on the Senate floor.
00:39:42.560 He said he wants Netanyahu to be forced out of office.
00:39:44.780 He wants Israel to have a new election and for them to elect a prime minister whose views
00:39:49.260 he likes.
00:39:50.340 And apparently the voters of Israel don't have a right to choose their own leader, that
00:39:54.740 it's going to be the Democrats in Washington to choose that.
00:39:57.600 But look, the White House and the congressional Democrats, they hope that by attacking Israel
00:40:03.420 relentlessly, by threatening to cut off money, by undermining their international support,
00:40:07.900 that Israel will get cold feet, that they will get weak knees.
00:40:11.600 They will stop attacking Hamas and in particular, Rafa.
00:40:15.200 Look, the Hamas leadership, the Hamas terrorists are all gathered in Rafa.
00:40:19.060 Now, I'll tell you, I sat down doing a Zoom call two weeks ago with Prime Minister Netanyahu.
00:40:25.380 He joined all the Republican senators at our lunch.
00:40:27.940 I can tell you two weeks ago, he was unequivocal.
00:40:30.300 He said, we will go to Rafa.
00:40:31.700 We will enter Rafa.
00:40:33.160 We will engage in a military campaign and we will utterly eliminate Hamas. 0.99
00:40:36.720 And if America is not there, we'll do it on our own.
00:40:39.520 To be honest, what Netanyahu said, it was almost word for word what Menachem Begin said.
00:40:43.400 That has not changed.
00:40:45.080 It's one of the reasons.
00:40:46.720 Listen, as a Texan, I've explained.
00:40:49.520 People have asked me a lot of times.
00:40:51.420 They've said, how is it?
00:40:52.680 How did it come to pass?
00:40:54.840 That a Cuban Texan Southern Baptist became the leading defender of Israel in the Senate.
00:41:03.620 And there are lots of reasons for that.
00:41:05.900 But I'll tell you, one of the biggest is the attitude of Israel. 0.97
00:41:10.440 Israel is surrounded by nations that would drive it into the sea, that would murder every 1.00
00:41:14.860 Israeli, every Jew if they could. 0.99
00:41:16.700 And the only reason they don't is because Israel is strong enough to defeat them all. 0.99
00:41:22.360 I got to say that is an incredibly Texan foreign policy.
00:41:26.220 It is a national security policy.
00:41:27.680 I have more than once wished that American foreign policy could have the clarity and strength
00:41:33.900 that Israel's does. 0.92
00:41:35.720 And so I'm not surprised that Netanyahu is saying the same thing Menachem Begin said
00:41:40.920 40 plus years later, which is Israel only survives because they could survive. 0.96
00:41:47.820 They are not dependent on the largesse, the welfare from Democrats who are condescending
00:41:54.080 to flick breadcrumbs from their table.
00:41:56.620 But I really do wonder, Ben, is there one Democrat in Congress with the guts to stand up to Biden
00:42:09.840 and say, this is wrong?
00:42:13.560 We stand with Israel.
00:42:15.460 We stand against Hamas. 1.00
00:42:17.580 And all of the rest of this is garbage. 0.99
00:42:20.080 If they have, I haven't seen it. 0.99
00:42:23.240 Yeah, I agree with you.
00:42:24.520 And this is going to be such an important issue on the ballot this coming November.
00:42:30.520 Don't forget to share this, please.
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00:42:37.140 Without you guys listening and putting this out the world, no one hears it.
00:42:41.120 So thank you.
00:42:42.180 We need to say that more often.
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