Verdict with Ted Cruz - Is the UK's Assault on Free Speech Coming to America？ plus Harris & Walz Run Away from their own Radical Records

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00:00:05.340 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:09.220 Senator, there is a big war going on when it comes to free speech.

00:00:13.600 Not just in this country, but around the world.

00:00:16.100 And real concerns about what could happen with Harris in charge in this country.

00:00:20.680 Free speech is under assault in the United Kingdom.

00:00:23.220 They are going after, they are sentencing people to jail for their social media posts.

00:00:28.240 They are threatening to take that enforcement to America to go after Americans.

00:00:33.640 And I'll tell you what is really terrifying is Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz are radicals and zealots when it comes to free speech.

00:00:41.200 We're going to break down just how extreme their record is.

00:00:44.340 This is the most anti-free speech ticket that has ever run.

00:00:49.000 At the same time, Kamala Harris's campaign have decided on a new strategy.

00:00:53.840 She is going to run as Donald Trump.

00:00:56.340 Suddenly, Kamala Harris wants to secure the border. 1.00

00:01:00.220 Suddenly, Kamala Harris loves her some fracking. 1.00

00:01:04.520 And suddenly, Kamala Harris has a brand new idea she cooked up just on her own with no help from anybody else.

00:01:11.160 No taxes on tips.

00:01:13.500 We're going to talk about how they're trying to gaslight the American people.

00:01:16.940 And we're going to contrast it with Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz's radical, extreme record.

00:01:23.980 As I said, they are the most extreme ticket ever nominated by a major party.

00:01:28.320 We're going to break that down right now.

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00:03:08.240 Senator, this is very interesting.

00:03:11.080 I also think shocking and concerning to see what is happening in the U.K.

00:03:15.980 They are, as you mentioned in the opening, not only, like, spying on people,

00:03:21.740 looking at what they're putting online, but then deciding, hey, we don't like that.

00:03:26.520 We may charge you with crimes and put you in jail, and people are actually going to jail in the U.K. for this.

00:03:32.220 Well, that's exactly right.

00:03:34.080 It is frightening in the United Kingdom now that they've decided that if you post something they don't like,

00:03:39.780 they will arrest you, and they'll put you in jail.

00:03:43.540 I want you to listen to this British judge as he's sentencing this poor Brit to 20 months in jail. 0.62

00:03:52.820 20 months.

00:03:53.400 That's almost two years for a Facebook post.

00:03:56.500 He posted something on Facebook.

00:03:59.240 The British government didn't like it.

00:04:01.780 They sent him to jail.

00:04:02.800 Have a listen.

00:04:04.200 You have been committed for sentence, having pleaded guilty to an offense of publishing written material,

00:04:12.740 which is threatening, abusive, or insulting, intending thereby to stir up racial hatred.

00:04:21.100 The context of your offending is that it arises out of the civil unrest and disorder in many parts of the United Kingdom.

00:04:33.320 On the night of the 2nd and 3rd of August, the Britannia Hotel in Leeds was attacked by people who threw missiles,

00:04:43.740 which damaged windows.

00:04:45.780 The police were called, and on the 3rd of August, the hotel was locked down for the protection of those who were living there.

00:04:54.740 At the time, there were 210 occupants, many of whom were foreign refugees and asylum seekers.

00:05:04.480 Similar attacks to the hotel were launched on the 4th of August.

00:05:08.440 The police attended on each occasion, and units were deployed to safeguard the hotel and to provide an increase in the police presence in the area.

00:05:22.740 In between the two attacks, you took to social media in order to encourage others towards participation in the attacks upon the hotel.

00:05:34.840 As is recognized on your behalf, this offense is so serious that an immediate custodial sentence is unavoidable.

00:05:45.440 Would you stand, please?

00:05:47.320 The sentence that I pass has been reduced by one-third to reflect your guilty plea.

00:05:53.560 The sentence is one of 20 months' imprisonment.

00:05:56.400 You will serve up to one-half of your sentence in custody before you are released on license.

00:06:04.500 If you fail to abide by the conditions of your license, you can be returned to prison to serve some or all of the remainder of the custodial term.

00:06:16.480 The victim surcharge will apply, and I will make a collection order.

00:06:20.680 Two things are shocking there.

00:06:22.800 One, at the beginning, he said, what you said was categorized.

00:06:25.940 He gave a list, but then he used the word insulting.

00:06:28.420 So you can now go to jail because you post something that is insulting.

00:06:32.140 And then he also says, by the way, you better be glad that you pled guilty, which reduced your sentence by one-third, which was still, as you mentioned, 20 months, almost two years.

00:06:42.620 This is in the U.K., not in Russia.

00:06:44.580 So, and I will say, so this is one of the videos, every video we do, every pod we do is released on audio.

00:06:51.660 About a third of the pods are also on video.

00:06:54.500 This is one of the ones that's on video.

00:06:56.460 So if you're not watching on YouTube, if you're watching on YouTube, you saw the guy.

00:06:59.980 And I got to say, first of all, the image, if you're just listening to it.

00:07:05.100 Go watch it.

00:07:05.840 He's wearing a red robe.

00:07:07.860 He's got a white wig on.

00:07:09.380 Yeah.

00:07:09.680 I got to say, by the way, you'd look damn fine in one of those wigs. 0.92

00:07:12.380 You could carry it off.

00:07:14.540 You know, it's thinning just a little bit, Benjamin.

00:07:18.020 I feel like if I lose a bet with you, there's going to be some bet one day where I have to host Verdick with a white wig on.

00:07:22.360 And look, he's sitting there.

00:07:24.460 It is now an offense, apparently, to post something that could be insulting. 0.99

00:07:30.560 So, you know, apparently, if you play the, you know, play a song from Hamilton where King George is portrayed as an effete-looking, wig-wearing, limey bastard. 0.98

00:07:44.880 Yeah. 0.98

00:07:45.660 Then, apparently, that could be justifiable if it's inciting of hate.

00:07:51.420 Yes.

00:07:52.700 And what if someone just decides they don't like a person online?

00:07:55.180 They say, oh, they incited me to do this, and that's why I went out and did this.

00:07:58.360 Therefore, go after that guy.

00:07:59.680 Now, I'm curious.

00:08:00.980 What do you think are the odds that the Brits will enforce that against, say, a radical Islamic cleric who's calling for jihad?

00:08:11.820 To quote you, zero percent chance.

00:08:13.820 Zero.

00:08:14.220 No, no, no.

00:08:14.800 No, no.

00:08:15.100 You're not allowed.

00:08:16.020 By the way, when people are pointing out the violence that is occurring in Britain, if you actually point out that you have, because of massive immigration into Britain, you have violence, many from people who are engaged in acts of radical Islamic terrorism.

00:08:33.400 This law is being enforced not to stop the violence, but to stop someone from pointing out who's committing it.

00:08:41.600 It is literally—you know, George Orwell was British, and I got to say, Orwell wouldn't be surprised.

00:08:48.380 He predicted this in 1984.

00:08:51.280 Yeah.

00:08:51.380 The judge saying, not saying, saying, we will stop you from pointing something out.

00:08:59.880 We will silence you and erase any narrative contrary to the regime.

00:09:06.580 And by the way, this is a threat not just against people that are British citizens.

00:09:09.620 There's also a threat of going to jail if you're a foreigner who happens to offend them as well.

00:09:14.420 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:09:15.100 I love the Brits too much.

00:09:16.660 They would never threaten to violate the First Amendment of the Constitution, would they?

00:09:22.180 Yes, never.

00:09:22.800 Never.

00:09:23.500 Okay, I want you to listen to this police chief from England explaining that he's coming after you.

00:09:32.120 He's coming after Americans. 1.00

00:09:33.520 He's going to cross the pond.

00:09:35.020 Here he comes.

00:09:35.940 Give a listen.

00:09:36.940 We will throw the false force of the law at people.

00:09:39.440 And whether you're in this country committing crimes on the streets or committing crimes from further afield online, we will come after you.

00:09:48.240 Talk to me about that because we have seen some high-profile figures whipping up the hatred.

00:09:53.640 You talked about it in there with the officers, in fact, about this being added to by online commentary.

00:09:57.800 I mean, I'm even thinking of the likes of Elon Musk getting involved.

00:10:00.440 What are you considering when it comes to dealing with people who are whipping up this kind of behaviour from behind a keyboard and maybe in a different country?

00:10:08.680 Being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe from the law.

00:10:14.940 You can be guilty of offences of incitement, of stirring up racial hatred.

00:10:20.020 There are numerous terrorist offences regarding the publishing of material.

00:10:25.000 All of those offences are in play if people are provoking hatred and violence on the streets.

00:10:30.760 And we will come after those individuals just as we will physically confront on the streets, the thugs and the yobs who are causing the promise for communities. 1.00

00:10:38.080 I love the part at the end, and for people that aren't getting to watch this, there's a slide that was up at the end of this report.

00:10:44.200 And it's a warning that happened, like, on X, warning people, be careful what you post, because if you post something we don't like, you may go to jail.

00:10:54.080 And then ex-owner Elon Musk, who I just, I love Elon every time I see him just clap back like this, made waves when he responded to footage of someone allegedly arrested for offensive online comments by asking,

00:11:08.800 Is this Britain or the Soviet Union? 0.87

00:11:11.980 Now, to be clear, in an article, quote, the crackdown on social media includes a threat by the British government to extradite American citizens from the U.S. to be jailed in the U.K. for violating the rules about political free speech.

00:11:25.420 So this is my question, Senator.

00:11:27.100 If I tweet something in America about the U.K., could they then come after me based on what they're now saying because that offended somebody in the U.K.?

00:11:37.520 Well, to be clear, the Chinese communists claim the power to do that.

00:11:43.040 Dictators across the world claim the power to do that.

00:11:46.280 I am sanctioned in communist China.

00:11:48.760 Right now, they have sanctioned me.

00:11:50.520 Congratulations.

00:11:51.320 I'm quite proud of that.

00:11:53.260 What did you do?

00:11:54.180 I don't even know. 1.00

00:11:54.980 I probably called them murdering, tyrannical communist bastards. 1.00

00:11:58.860 But I'm sanctioned in China. 1.00

00:12:00.560 I think I'm also sanctioned in Iran.

00:12:02.120 I can't quite keep up.

00:12:03.400 That's a good list.

00:12:04.440 I can't quite keep up.

00:12:05.880 And I think the Russians also, but it's hard to keep up with how many oppressive regimes have sanctioned me.

00:12:12.560 But you know what?

00:12:13.460 I never thought I'd put the Brits on that list.

00:12:15.860 I, you know, I've joked, Heidi and I, Heidi, I like to say Heidi and I are a mixed marriage.

00:12:23.380 She's a Francophile.

00:12:24.900 I'm an Anglophile.

00:12:25.860 I love the Brits.

00:12:27.020 Yeah.

00:12:27.260 And it breaks my heart.

00:12:28.900 Look, the Magna Carta is on fire.

00:12:31.320 The United Kingdom led the world in championing liberty.

00:12:37.660 But let me point out to any Brit that wants to extradite an American.

00:12:41.980 And by the way, Elon Musk is an American citizen.

00:12:44.820 You want to come after Elon?

00:12:46.340 You better come through me and the rest of us first.

00:12:49.320 You know, we did have a little disagreement with the UK.

00:12:52.080 It was minor.

00:12:53.240 It was in a year called 1776.

00:12:55.620 They tried to tax our tea.

00:12:56.720 Who won that, by the way?

00:12:57.760 I just want to go back in history, make sure we, yeah, we did.

00:13:00.480 Okay, keep going.

00:13:01.060 They tried to tax our tea.

00:13:02.900 We threw that stuff in the Boston Harbor. 1.00

00:13:05.020 We pulled out our muskets and we whipped their ass and became free. 1.00

00:13:09.820 And the idea that they would claim, look, it actually, it's sad. 0.99

00:13:18.620 Great nations rise and fall.

00:13:21.700 The United Kingdom has been incredibly important for liberty worldwide.

00:13:29.200 And by the way, I could see some lefty picking this little exchange and saying, oh, but the Brits were slave traders.

00:13:34.740 And it is true, the United Kingdom, their biggest industry for a period of time was the slave trade until incredible heroes like William Wilberforce led the fight to abolish the slave trade in the United Kingdom.

00:13:48.340 The UK has a great history of fighting for liberty.

00:13:52.100 Is it perfect?

00:13:53.800 No.

00:13:54.220 But whether it is winning World War I and World War II with America's mighty help, look, there is a reason why in my office in the Senate, I have three busts in my office.

00:14:06.520 I have Ronald Reagan, I have Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., and I have Winston Churchill because Churchill was an extraordinary leader.

00:14:14.820 And by the way, if I were to put a fourth bust up, I might put Margaret Thatcher up. 0.97

00:14:19.280 I mean, two of the British leaders have been among the most extraordinary leaders the world has ever known.

00:14:27.400 And you have to see where the UK is now.

00:14:30.080 It's sad.

00:14:30.980 It's heartbreaking.

00:14:33.000 There's an arrogance and also a loss of fundamental identity, a loss of who we are.

00:14:41.860 And that worries me for this standpoint.

00:14:45.400 In America right now, I don't think we're that far off from this.

00:14:49.860 I worry about what freedom of speech in this country.

00:14:52.800 I go back just over the last six, seven, eight years.

00:14:55.720 You know, you couldn't post an article about Hunter Biden's laptop, right?

00:14:59.100 That was something that like, oh, no, no, no, that's not real.

00:15:01.540 We had people that were supposed to trust in our CIA directors and others that came out and signed a letter knowing they were lying to the American people.

00:15:11.100 And there was no accountability, for example, for that, saying, oh, this is something that has the markings of Russians.

00:15:17.120 I mean, you look at what's happening in this country with free speech.

00:15:20.640 I don't think we're that far off, especially if you look at Harris and what she says as well.

00:15:25.140 Well, and I want to demonstrate that because, look, the most important part of this podcast is underscoring.

00:15:32.820 You know, a few years ago, if I would have said the U.K. is going to lock people up for making social media posts, you probably would have dismissed that as, come on, that they still respect individual liberty too much to do that.

00:15:45.680 And now they're doing it.

00:15:48.880 We are very close to that in today's Democrat Party.

00:15:52.200 In the last few years, one of the greatest concerns I've had is the Democrat Party.

00:15:58.380 There used to be principled, passionate defenders of free speech in the Democrat Party.

00:16:05.860 They don't exist anymore.

00:16:08.300 And today's Democrats have decided that free speech, the First Amendment, is incompatible with their desire to control you and to silence speech they don't like.

00:16:18.180 And today's Democrats being in bed with big tech, they view it as a machinery of censorship and oppression because power matters more to them than free speech.

00:16:31.260 You know, there's a great article Jonathan Turley, the great law professor, wrote just a few days ago in The Hill.

00:16:37.860 And it's entitled, A Harris-Waltz administration would be a nightmare for free speech.

00:16:43.740 And I want you to look at Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz's record on free speech because this is the most extreme and radical record on free speech of any ticket that has ever run for president with a major party.

00:16:56.220 So you look at Joe Biden. Joe Biden has made censorship a critical part of his legacy.

00:17:02.980 He has accused social media companies of, quote, killing people.

00:17:07.340 That's Joe Biden for not censoring more.

00:17:11.080 So that's his position. If you don't censor, you're killing people.

00:17:14.660 The administration created an office like, quote, the Disinformation Governance Board.

00:17:20.000 Remember, oh, yeah, the disinformation czar led by that wacko who loved musical theater and who had these these bizarre, smarmy singing things on Twitter who wanted to silence anyone she disagreed with. 0.97

00:17:32.720 Thankfully, that disbanded because the pushback was was so significant.

00:17:37.640 But but I want you to listen to Tim Waltz on MSNBC, what he says about free speech.

00:17:45.240 Give a listen. Years ago, it was the little things telling people to vote the day after the election.

00:17:50.800 And, you know, we kind of brush them off. Now we know it's intimidation at the at the ballot box.

00:17:55.600 It's it's undermining the idea that mail in ballots aren't legal.

00:18:00.060 I think we need to push back on this. There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or or hate speech and especially around our democracy.

00:18:07.820 Tell the truth where the voting places are, who can vote, who's able to be there.

00:18:11.620 And I, you know, watching some states continue to weaken the protections around the ballot, I think, is what inspiring us to to lean into this.

00:18:20.360 Again, all we're asking is is to make it as easy and simple as possible to exercise their right to vote and participate in our democracy.

00:18:28.940 And I'm in 100 percent agreement with you. That makes it so that more people are there.

00:18:33.140 You get more opinions brought in. And I think it it tempers that that extremes that we get, because, again, I can't imagine someone going and standing in line for eight hours to try and vote and then being told that, you know, maybe the votes didn't count or maybe something's wrong.

00:18:49.920 You have these candidates who lose and are on these ridiculous court cases that they keep bringing up and losing on here in Minnesota.

00:18:59.120 We're going to bring faith back into that system. It's already been here. We were very proud that we're near the top in voter turnout.

00:19:05.100 But there's more that we can do. So I want you to hear those words because that is radical.

00:19:12.020 It is idiotic and it is wrong. So here's a quote that he just said, quote, there's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech and especially around our democracy. 0.99

00:19:24.240 Now, that is utter garbage. There is a guarantee to free speech. It's called the First Amendment to the Constitution. 0.57

00:19:29.920 It is in the Bill of Rights. And listen to what he said. There's no guarantee on misinformation, by the way.

00:19:35.860 And he said, look at these candidates who filed lawsuits challenging elections.

00:19:40.500 So apparently he wants to go after you and prosecute you if you file a lawsuit challenging an election.

00:19:46.040 And he says, for example, misinformation. He says, we just want to make sure everyone has the right to vote.

00:19:53.640 Well, you know what, Mr. Walts, I charge that as misinformation because your party tried to throw Donald Trump off the ballot in Colorado, Illinois and Maine.

00:20:03.820 Yeah. You don't just want to make sure everyone has the right to vote when you're trying to stop them from voting for your opponent.

00:20:11.460 And understand, the only reason that didn't succeed is because the Supreme Court unanimously rejected your party's assault on democracy.

00:20:20.500 And when he says, I can't imagine waiting eight hours in line to vote and then being told that your vote somehow matters less.

00:20:29.320 OK, are you planning to prosecute Hillary Clinton when she said that the election where Donald Trump beat her was rigged?

00:20:36.140 It is it is exactly like the Brits, by the way. It is purely one sided.

00:20:42.560 You don't see Tim Walts saying we're going to go after some radical Islamic cleric who is promising that you will have 72 virgins. 0.57

00:20:51.060 If you just go murder innocent people, if you go murder Jews, that that will be he would not apply it there. 0.53

00:20:57.680 What he means. Is if you dare say something contrary to the regime, you have no right to free speech. 0.97

00:21:07.020 That is dangerous and it's radical and it's wrong.

00:21:10.640 Yeah. And it's something that people need to understand moving forward in this election.

00:21:14.200 Listen, this is who they are. Believe them when they tell you they are radical.

00:21:18.860 I've said that over and over again. If you just look and listen to what they're saying, you can see what their plan is.

00:21:26.020 And by the way, by the way, Waltz is not alone. Let me give you an example.

00:21:29.980 So Stacey Plaskett, who is a Democrat in Congress representing the Virgin Islands, she declared, quote,

00:21:36.160 I hope that all members recognize that there is speech that is not constitutionally protected, referencing hate speech in particular.

00:21:44.140 Ben Cardin, Democrat senator from Maryland, said, quote,

00:21:48.400 If you espouse hate, you're not protected under the First Amendment.

00:21:55.460 Now, if he wrote that, he's a lawyer.

00:21:57.980 If he wrote that as a first year law student in constitutional law, he would flunk.

00:22:02.740 That's not even a D answer. That's an F answer.

00:22:05.120 By the way, Howard Dean, member, former governor of Vermont, Democrat, ran for president.

00:22:09.380 Here's what he said. Quote, hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment.

00:22:15.480 By the way, the Supreme Court is a famous case, the Skokie case, where they upheld the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, Illinois,

00:22:23.460 because the First Amendment protects the right to speak, even if what you're saying is hateful.

00:22:28.080 And to be clear, I despise Nazis. 1.00

00:22:30.500 They are bigoted, evil idiots. 1.00

00:22:33.060 Yes. The First Amendment protects the right of bigoted, evil idiots to speak their idiocy. 1.00

00:22:38.880 And the response, by the way, is not for government to censor them, not for government to lock them up for 20 months as they're doing in the United Kingdom. 1.00

00:22:45.980 The response is to stand up and say, you're Nazis, you're morons. 1.00

00:22:50.040 It was a great moment in Raiders of the Lost Ark when your faces melted because you were evil and foolish. 1.00

00:22:57.020 The answer, as John Stuart Mill said, to bad speech is more speech. 0.98

00:23:00.840 And by the way, if you don't want to listen to me on it, listen to the Supreme Court of the United States,

00:23:06.520 because the position of Tim Walz, the position of all those Democrats I quoted, has been directly refuted.

00:23:14.280 I'm going to give one example.

00:23:15.340 In the 2016 case of Mattel v. Tam, here's what the Supreme Court wrote.

00:23:20.420 Quote, this position, rather, this position that hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment.

00:23:28.240 Quote, strikes at the heart of the First Amendment.

00:23:32.900 Speech that demeans on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, religion, age, disability, or any other similar ground is hateful.

00:23:48.180 But the proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to express the thought that we hate.

00:24:00.640 I want you to hear that phrase again.

00:24:04.440 The proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to express the thought that we hate.

00:24:15.940 By the way, Mattel v. Tam was a decision that was unanimous.

00:24:19.800 Nobody descended from the judgment.

00:24:22.400 And yet, where are the Democrats?

00:24:26.060 Well, let's look at Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:24:27.220 Kamala Harris, on her disastrously failed 2020 presidential campaign, here's what she said.

00:24:35.380 She ran on censorship and she pledged, quote, that her administration will hold social media platforms accountable for the hate infiltrating their platforms because they have a responsibility to help fight against this threat to our democracy.

00:24:49.720 In 2019, Kamala Harris said directly to Mark Zuckerberg, the lead owner of Facebook, quote,

00:24:58.280 This is not a matter of free speech.

00:25:00.040 This is a matter of holding corporate America and these big tech companies responsible and accountable for what they are facilitating.

00:25:08.540 Understand, Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, if they win, they intend to go after your free speech.

00:25:15.660 They intend to pressure big tech to censor even more.

00:25:20.200 And what they define as hate is anything contrary to their agenda.

00:25:26.640 So, for example, if you point out, as, say, hypothetically, someone may have in Milwaukee at a speech at the Republican National Convention to the world, 0.96

00:25:38.580 that every damn day Americans are being murdered, women are being raped, children are being brutalized by illegal aliens that Kamala Harris is releasing, 1.00

00:25:51.080 in the world of Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, that might be deemed misinformation. 0.99

00:25:56.160 Why? Because it's hateful.

00:25:57.620 And what do they mean by hateful?

00:25:58.960 It's inconvenient for their political agenda.

00:26:01.760 So they want to censor it.

00:26:03.560 And maybe not far from the Brits, they want to put you in jail for saying it.

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00:26:38.760 You go back and you think about one thing here.

00:26:40.800 The Democrats have been attacking the Supreme Court recently.

00:26:43.620 They don't like the Supreme Court very much.

00:26:45.400 So just pack it.

00:26:46.420 Undo that as well.

00:26:47.280 It's very interesting to see how they're playing this out here.

00:26:50.720 It's like anything we don't like, we want to get rid of or redo. 0.98

00:26:54.040 We want to change it.

00:26:55.700 They're coming after the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Supreme Court.

00:26:58.960 The list goes on and on from this team.

00:27:01.200 And by the way, you know what Benjamin Franklin said about this?

00:27:03.960 I'm going to give you a quote from Ben Franklin.

00:27:05.440 In those wretched countries where a man cannot call his tongue his own, he can scarce call anything his own.

00:27:16.320 Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.

00:27:24.320 Without freedom of thought, there can be no such thing as wisdom and no such thing as public liberty without freedom of speech, which is the right of every man.

00:27:40.180 That statement, Ben Franklin, there's a reason Ben Franklin's on the $100 bill.

00:27:44.080 There's a reason Ben Franklin sat at the Constitutional Convention.

00:27:54.520 The famed exchange when Franklin walked out of the Constitutional Convention after they drafted the Constitution.

00:28:00.800 And a passerby asked him, Mr. Franklin, what have you given us?

00:28:04.260 And he said, a republic, if you can keep it.

00:28:11.520 I will say with today's radical Democrats who have decided free speech is inconvenient to their thirst for power, they're doing everything they can to give up our republic.

00:28:23.100 Amen to that.

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00:29:56.800 Senator, let's look at, I think, going back after we have the warning of what just happened in the UK to Harris and Waltz as a ticket now.

00:30:08.360 Yep.

00:30:08.720 They are a radical ticket that the Democratic Party has never seen before.

00:30:14.520 I think that's saying something.

00:30:16.040 We've had pretty extremist candidates before they've run.

00:30:18.740 And we've never seen a dynamic duo like this where it's almost like they try to one-up each other on how extreme they can go.

00:30:26.060 Well, Ben, how could that be true?

00:30:28.160 I've seen in the news that Kamala Harris was not the border czar, that she never had anything to do with the border. 0.91

00:30:34.440 I've seen in the news how, you know, fracking, gosh golly, she just loves her some fracking. 1.00

00:30:41.800 I've seen in the news now that she has proposals straight from Donald Trump's tax plan.

00:30:48.760 I mean, it is amazing how Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz are trying to whitewash their entire record.

00:30:57.280 You go to Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz's website, which I don't advise, but there are no policy positions on it.

00:31:04.880 She's going to have some, though, coming eventually.

00:31:07.180 I've never seen a presidential campaign website without policy positions.

00:31:11.780 It really is remarkable.

00:31:14.140 And doing no interviews as well.

00:31:16.020 That's weird.

00:31:17.300 And she's trying to run as the candidate of change as the incumbent. 1.00

00:31:22.500 In fact, there's a great montage that went viral this week online, and I think it goes exactly the point you were making, which is they're constantly changing who they are to try to fit what they think will get them elected now.

00:31:36.060 This is brilliant.

00:31:36.920 Take a look.

00:31:38.620 Kamala Harris pretends she wants to fix the broken border, but she has attacked and vilified everyone responsible for enforcing it. 1.00

00:31:45.520 Klan was what we would call today a domestic terrorist group.

00:31:49.320 Are you aware of the perception of many about how the power and the discretion at ICE is being used to enforce the laws?

00:32:01.380 And do you see any parallels?

00:32:03.320 I do not see any parallels between sworn officers and ICE.

00:32:05.420 I'm talking about perception.

00:32:06.300 Are you aware that there's a perception?

00:32:08.380 That puts ICE in the same category as the KKK.

00:32:10.500 We've got to critically re-examine ICE and its role and the way that it is being administered and the work it is doing.

00:32:17.160 And we need to probably think about starting from scratch.

00:32:20.020 I was the chief of the Border Patrol.

00:32:21.900 I commanded 21,000 people.

00:32:24.960 I've never had one conversation with the president or the vice president, for that matter.

00:32:29.780 That's a problem.

00:32:30.620 Jen Psaki, Vice President Kamala Harris, others have seized on this photo of a Border Patrol agent on a horse in Del Rio over the weekend.

00:32:38.300 And they said visuals were horrific in their words.

00:32:40.960 I was outraged by it.

00:32:43.300 There needs to be consequence and accountability.

00:32:45.280 It also evoked images of some of the worst moments of our history where that kind of behavior has been used against the indigenous people of our country, has been used against African-Americans during times of slavery.

00:33:01.700 And that is just blatantly false.

00:33:03.940 First off, these agents don't have whips. 0.98

00:33:06.000 We have a couple of them behind us right now.

00:33:07.480 Look, we'll show it to you.

00:33:08.720 What was seen in the photos is they have what are called split range.

00:33:12.260 The Border Patrol agents were attacked by the vice president of the United States and now the Department of Homeland Security.

00:33:18.180 He had still photos that, of course, the media blew up to mean something that it wasn't.

00:33:23.500 But the agents are very frustrated by the narrative out there.

00:33:26.460 They threw Border Patrol members under the bus.

00:33:29.200 You are that Border Patrol member who's being compared by the vice president to a slave owner?

00:33:37.880 It was clear from the beginning that they were not whipping any migrants.

00:33:41.180 Do you have plans to visit the border?

00:33:44.940 Not today.

00:33:45.860 This is a woman, to be clear, that said we needed to just abolish ICE and start all over. 1.00

00:33:52.740 Now she's saying, oh, I'm going to be tough on the border because we've got to secure the border.

00:33:57.440 There's the same woman that said that the border wall was racist.

00:34:00.040 But now the media is like, oh, hey, we've got to change the narrative here because people are concerned about the border.

00:34:05.160 We know it's a presidential election year issue.

00:34:07.300 And we're going to act like somehow now she's going to get tough on the border.

00:34:11.040 It's absurd, but they're helping her do this lie, perpetrate this lie on the American people.

00:34:17.120 And listen, as you know, I spend a lot of time at our southern border.

00:34:22.100 I know a lot of Border Patrol agents very, very well.

00:34:25.020 This demonization, she said at a hearing, she compared ICE agents to the Ku Klux Klan.

00:34:34.400 That's grotesque. 0.90

00:34:37.120 And she compared Border Patrol agents to slave owners whipping African Americans. 0.99

00:34:44.160 And by the way, that photograph that the press went crazy with and then she eagerly leapt on,

00:34:50.800 that photograph, that characterization was wrong.

00:34:53.380 That Border Patrol agent was simply riding his horse.

00:34:56.820 Those were the reins.

00:34:57.940 And it was wrongfully characterized that anybody was being whipped.

00:35:02.620 And I've talked to Border Patrol agents who were deeply offended at the vice president,

00:35:09.320 at the administration demonizing the brave men and women who risked their lives to keep us safe.

00:35:17.060 She is a radical who has consistently argued for abolishing ICE.

00:35:23.060 By the way, she's also supported defunding and abolishing the police when it comes to law enforcement.

00:35:28.420 Any time Kamala Harris...

00:35:29.620 And let's try to get people out of jail, by the way, in Minnesota who were involved in the riots while they were burning down the city.

00:35:36.560 Well, it's why she and Tim Waltz are such a good pair.

00:35:39.360 Because Tim Waltz was governor of Minnesota when Minneapolis burned.

00:35:42.580 When Antifa and Black Lives Matter radicals were burning the city, were firebombing police cars, were looting stores, were attacking police officers, were attacking citizens.

00:35:51.220 He did nothing.

00:35:52.140 He did not send in the National Guard.

00:35:53.800 He held it back.

00:35:55.400 And what did she do?

00:35:56.360 As you said, she raised money to bail the violent rioters out of jail.

00:36:01.540 Consistently, given the choice between law enforcement and criminals, Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz choose the criminals.

00:36:08.720 Given a choice between Border Patrol and ICE and illegal immigrants, Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz, they choose the illegal immigrants. 0.96

00:36:16.220 That's their record.

00:36:17.520 And they're magically trying to make that go away.

00:36:19.840 You and I were at the Republican convention.

00:36:21.400 You and I both had the conversation last night that we were worried that we came out of there too confident.

00:36:28.520 Because it was such a great convention.

00:36:31.180 Everything started all over with Kamala Harris.

00:36:33.480 Now be, no one's voted for her, but apparently that doesn't matter.

00:36:36.260 She's the nominee.

00:36:38.320 And we're sitting here.

00:36:39.640 But Tim Waltz said all they want is democracy.

00:36:41.500 Yes, that's true.

00:36:42.160 But does democracy mean people actually have to vote for the candidate?

00:36:44.960 Or what about the millions of Democrats who voted for Joe Biden?

00:36:48.100 Do they not have a right to democracy?

00:36:50.080 Yeah, fair point.

00:36:51.500 But you look at this and you see where we are now.

00:36:54.180 I'm very concerned about this election.

00:36:56.180 I think it's a complete reset.

00:36:57.800 And I'm also very concerned with the in-kind contribution coming from the media.

00:37:03.140 What I mean by that perfect example of this is Donald Trump seized on something that was very authentic and organic.

00:37:12.160 He was out in Vegas.

00:37:13.820 He was having a conversation with people in the service industry.

00:37:17.560 He had an idea, apparently wrote it on a napkin.

00:37:19.840 We shouldn't tax tips.

00:37:23.060 Help people survive.

00:37:24.360 Help people make a living.

00:37:26.440 And he said it at a rally and it just worked and it stuck.

00:37:30.440 And people loved it because he was a guy looking out for the little guy.

00:37:34.120 He was advocating for these hardworking people that rely on tips as part of their income.

00:37:38.500 And it obviously played well with many people in this country.

00:37:43.960 Fast forward to a few days ago, Kamala Harris says the same thing.

00:37:48.220 Well, and let me give a little more narrative on that.

00:37:50.500 So Trump announced it at the Vegas rally.

00:37:53.240 And I think the next week he was in D.C.

00:37:55.860 And I had lunch with him.

00:37:57.080 He had lunch with all the Republican senators.

00:37:58.760 He was actually telling us the back story of it.

00:38:01.280 And he said, well, you know, this was not an idea that came from a bunch of policy experts that had a bunch of white papers.

00:38:07.580 He said he was in Vegas right before the rally.

00:38:11.480 And he said he was having, I think, lunch or dinner.

00:38:13.180 I think it was lunch.

00:38:14.300 And he said there was a waitress who came up who complained about the really oppressive enforcement from Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

00:38:24.200 of their efforts to tax tips and how it was really burdensome.

00:38:27.840 The record keeping, it was really hard.

00:38:30.080 And Trump says at dinner, pulled out a piece of paper and just wrote down, no taxes on tips.

00:38:35.540 And then he said he went to the rally and he just said it.

00:38:38.340 And he said, and they went wild.

00:38:40.460 They went wild.

00:38:43.120 I got to say, there are moments, I think, of political genius.

00:38:49.000 And I think that was one of them.

00:38:50.380 So the next week, I introduced legislation in the Senate to exempt tips from taxes because I heard that idea.

00:38:59.360 And it's exactly right.

00:39:00.740 And the reason I introduced legislation, there are a lot of reasons, but one right at the heart is for over a decade, for as long as I've been in the Senate,

00:39:08.540 I have been advocating that the Republican Party, we should be a blue-collar party.

00:39:13.300 We should be the party of waiters and waitresses.

00:39:15.920 We should be the party of bartenders.

00:39:17.480 We should be the party of hairdressers and nail salon workers and taxicab drivers and everyone who has calluses on their hands because they're working hard.

00:39:30.040 And as a policy, the contrast is night and day.

00:39:34.060 That's who we should be fighting for.

00:39:35.600 And, you know, it's striking.

00:39:36.540 I introduced that legislation.

00:39:38.360 It's got a number of co-sponsors.

00:39:40.020 You know who also joined it?

00:39:41.460 Who's that?

00:39:42.420 Both Democrat senators from Nevada.

00:39:45.300 Really?

00:39:45.780 Jackie Rosen and Catherine Cortez Masto both joined my legislation because about 25 percent of the workers in Nevada are tipped workers.

00:39:57.160 And I got to say my reaction when I heard him make that proposal, I said Donald Trump will carry Nevada on that policy issue.

00:40:05.200 By the way, the Culinary Union has come out emphatically in support of Trump's proposal, emphatically in support of my legislation exempting tips from taxes.

00:40:15.400 And so this week, here's Kamala Harris. 0.97

00:40:18.940 I want you to give a listen first to Trump in Nevada announcing the policy proposal and then Kamala just shamelessly copying him. 1.00

00:40:27.840 Give a listen.

00:40:29.380 Because when I get to office, we are going to not charge taxes on tips.

00:40:34.720 People making tips.

00:40:35.860 Eliminate taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers.

00:40:45.620 I mean, that's just straight up stealing.

00:40:47.460 But I do think...

00:40:48.060 So June 9th is when Trump said it.

00:40:50.240 August 10th is when she said it.

00:40:51.880 And she didn't have the dignity to say...

00:40:54.580 You know, I actually would have respected it more if she says, look, there are lots of areas where I disagree with Donald Trump.

00:41:02.720 I'm a left-wing Democrat kook.

00:41:04.880 He's not.

00:41:06.180 However, he had an idea that's a really good one.

00:41:09.080 And I'm here to tell you right now...

00:41:10.840 I would do the same thing.

00:41:11.520 I would do the same.

00:41:12.460 That I could respect, but she doesn't acknowledge it.

00:41:14.940 And the irony is she also doesn't acknowledge what prompted it, which is that her administration, the Biden-Harris administration, she was the tie-breaking vote on the legislation that provided millions for the IRS to go after waiters and waitresses and everyone who's making tips.

00:41:40.700 And to enforce it vigorously and to hammer on them.

00:41:46.420 And yet, she doesn't acknowledge any of that.

00:41:48.680 This is Gaslighting 101.

00:41:50.040 This is why, by the way, I love doing this show.

00:41:52.260 And I will say to everybody right now listening or watching, this is when I ask you, share it.

00:41:56.580 And here's why.

00:41:57.560 Know when the media is going to tell you this.

00:41:59.600 In February, because what you just said, it's not something 10 years ago and then she had a change of heart.

00:42:04.660 Okay?

00:42:04.920 It's not like it was a policy 10 years ago and there was some negative effects came out of it that you didn't realize.

00:42:08.640 And then, you know, okay, look, that was a long time ago, a decade ago.

00:42:12.180 In February of 2023, it came to light that Biden's IRS planned to crack down on the service industry's reporting on tips.

00:42:22.740 The service industry tip compliance agreement program was to be a voluntary tip reporting system in which the IRS and the service industry companies cooperated, which is where they would crack down on the actual workers.

00:42:37.780 The program was meant to, quote, improve tip reporting compliance, reduce administrative burdens, and provide more transparency and certainty to taxpayers.

00:42:49.040 Again, going after the little guy here.

00:42:51.740 And the program feature included, quote, monitoring of employer compliance based on actual annual tip revenue.

00:43:00.660 So, big brother watching you and charge tip data from an employer's point of sale system.

00:43:07.280 So, now the computer's tracking you and allowance for adjustments in tipping practices from year to year to protect the employer from getting in trouble by turning in, in essence, their employees.

00:43:18.560 And who did this?

00:43:19.980 Kamala Harris and Joe Biden.

00:43:22.040 And now she's out there saying, I want you to not have to pay taxes on your tips.

00:43:26.900 When, again, 2023 February wasn't that long ago.

00:43:31.400 Yeah, and look, this is a standard practice and pattern of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

00:43:37.040 Siding with the big guy, siding with giant corporations, whether it's big tech or giant corporations, against the little guy.

00:43:43.980 You know, there was an interesting story, the same lunch where Trump was telling us the back story of this proposal.

00:43:51.280 The day before the lunch, Trump and Lindsey Graham had played golf.

00:43:55.960 And Lindsey told everyone, he said, look, the two of us were playing golf and they're both big golfers.

00:44:00.400 And, you know, look, your son is one of the best golfers in the world.

00:44:03.140 But Lindsey described how midway through the golf game, he said their two caddies came up and hugged Donald Trump because he had just made the proposal of no taxes on tips.

00:44:16.800 And listen, golf caddies like barbers, like bartenders, there are all sorts of professions where a big chunk of their revenue and many of them are just barely making ends meet.

00:44:27.160 They're just starting to climb the economic ladder and they literally came and hugged him for that proposal.

00:44:33.660 And so Kamala Harris is now trying to pretend, look, I'm glad she's supporting my legislation. 1.00

00:44:38.880 I got to say, this is a first.

00:44:40.880 I do not believe Kamala Harris has ever before publicly endorsed legislation that I filed and the lead author of.

00:44:49.240 Now, she didn't mention it was my legislation.

00:44:50.960 She didn't mention it was Trump's idea.

00:44:52.460 And to be clear, I took the idea from Trump.

00:44:54.400 It was his idea.

00:44:55.540 And you ran with it. 0.97

00:44:56.160 I just had the sense of saying, that's a damn good idea. 0.93

00:44:59.140 Let's do it. 0.73

00:44:59.840 And so I went and put pen to paper to actually draft it to make it happen.

00:45:04.560 But I readily credit it was Trump's idea.

00:45:08.720 Kamala could not be bothered to acknowledge anything other than pretending this has always been her view.

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00:47:17.460 like they're not extremists, they're not radicals, even though their entire history says that's exactly what they are.

00:47:23.720 Look, I want you to listen to two clips that really sums up just how extreme they are.

00:47:29.480 The first is from Tim Waltz, and he's talking about his fellow Minnesotan, Ilhan Omar.

00:47:35.300 And to be clear, Ilhan Omar is one of the founding members of the squad.

00:47:39.500 She is a radical anti-Semite. 0.97

00:47:41.340 She hates Israel. 0.99

00:47:42.920 She is extreme. 0.70

00:47:45.400 Listen to what Tim Waltz thinks about her.

00:47:49.680 Something I'll never get tired of saying, I think all of you, Congresswoman Omar.

00:47:54.820 Wonderful.

00:47:55.420 Doesn't that sound?

00:47:59.560 When I'm having a tough day or I'm out on about mile five of my run and I'm feeling kind of down and the world's pressing on me,

00:48:05.480 I think Ilhan Omar is a Congresswoman, and it just brightens you up.

00:48:08.880 So thank you.

00:48:10.460 I just wonder, like mile three, is he sitting there thinking about that's the same Congresswoman that said that the terrorists that attacked us on 9-11

00:48:17.200 were some people that did some things?

00:48:20.140 Look, Ilhan Omar is a Congresswoman, and that's something that just brightens you up.

00:48:26.700 That's what he said.

00:48:28.560 This is, everyone will acknowledge, one of the most radical and extreme zealots, and that brightens his day.

00:48:38.260 That tells you who he is.

00:48:41.460 Now, if you think that's bad, I got something worse.

00:48:46.940 Do you like Christmas?

00:48:48.020 Love Christmas.

00:48:49.020 Okay, well, you're not Kamala Harris.

00:48:50.620 Give a listen to Kamala.

00:48:51.460 When we all sing happy tunes and sing Merry Christmas and wish each other Merry Christmas,

00:48:58.880 these children are not going to have a Merry Christmas.

00:49:02.860 How dare we speak Merry Christmas?

00:49:05.740 How dare we?

00:49:07.660 I haven't seen somebody get that crazy about hating Christmas in a long time.

00:49:11.340 And understand what she's saying there.

00:49:13.020 In context, she's talking about illegal immigrants.

00:49:15.660 And she's saying illegal immigrants are having a lousy time,

00:49:18.920 so how dare we say Merry Christmas when illegal immigrants? 1.00

00:49:23.700 I mean, it is, this is a woman whose entire career has been siding with criminals and with illegal immigrants. 0.97

00:49:34.580 And, in her mind, even saying Merry Christmas is unacceptable as long as there is one illegal immigrant who is not basking in luxury. 1.00

00:49:51.440 All right, final point before we wrap up.

00:49:53.520 I'm going to make a prediction.

00:49:57.620 So, 11 months ago, on verdict, I predicted that the Democrats would throw Joe Biden off the ticket.

00:50:06.020 You were correct.

00:50:07.080 Let's have that moment.

00:50:09.180 At the time, many in the media...

00:50:10.900 I wish you were wrong, by the way.

00:50:11.600 I do, too.

00:50:12.400 Yeah.

00:50:13.160 It wasn't what I wanted to have happen.

00:50:15.260 It was a prediction.

00:50:16.080 And, by the way, over the 11 months, I gave a scaling set of odds that increased as we got closer and closer and closer.

00:50:25.700 The night of the debate between Trump and Biden, you and I recorded a podcast immediately after the debate.

00:50:32.620 I said that night the Democrats will push Joe Biden off.

00:50:37.580 I put the odds at 100% at the time.

00:50:39.760 And they did.

00:50:40.560 And they did.

00:50:41.360 So, I'm going to make another prediction, and it's not one that I want to have happen.

00:50:48.880 I'm going to put the odds at 40% that Joe Biden resigns between now and Election Day.

00:50:55.000 Really?

00:50:55.840 40%?

00:50:56.900 So that they can see her as president, so it'll be easier to get her elected? 0.99

00:51:00.220 That's exactly right.

00:51:01.240 So that Kamala Harris is the incumbent president.

00:51:04.160 She is running for a re-election.

00:51:05.820 I still think it is 60-40.

00:51:08.440 They don't.

00:51:09.800 But 40 is high.

00:51:10.800 That Biden, they pushed him out.

00:51:13.100 They pushed him out.

00:51:14.020 I think he's pretty ticked.

00:51:15.800 He'd have to go along with it.

00:51:19.540 But I think there are going to be very serious discussions in the White House by all the partisans whose paycheck is written by continuing the regime.

00:51:32.360 Everyone who stays in power is going to say, you know, if you say your health has reached a point that you need to step aside, which clearly it has.

00:51:42.660 Of course, it had a year ago, two years ago, three years ago, four years ago.

00:51:45.900 But if you say that and she's the sitting president from the Democrat perspective, I think they would say it increases our chances of her winning and we want to win.

00:51:57.440 And they put winning above everything else.

00:51:59.340 I don't think it's greater than 50-50, but I think it is a very real possibility right now today. 0.69

00:52:05.280 I don't like that prediction.

00:52:07.200 I don't either.

00:52:07.780 But I think you may be right.

00:52:09.800 I don't either.

00:52:10.740 I don't want it to come true.

00:52:13.640 It gives her a huge advantage. 0.86

00:52:16.740 Huge advantage if she's the president. 1.00

00:52:17.860 Which is why I think they will have a very serious discussion.

00:52:22.140 I think if they can bully Joe Biden into doing it, it'll happen.

00:52:25.900 Don't forget, we do this show Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

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00:52:41.500 You never know what predictions may come out of this show.

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