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00:05:09.360I'm going to go back to what you said a moment ago, Senator.
00:05:11.540You said you're going to, quote, slightly change your prediction.
00:05:16.040For everyone that doesn't know, you predicted nine, almost ten months ago now that if Joe Biden was replaced, it would be at the convention and they would parachute in Michelle Obama.
00:05:31.760Well, that was my prediction, as you said, nine, ten months ago.
00:05:35.000And at the time, my prediction then, as I said, there's a real possibility.
00:05:38.880I didn't believe nine, ten months ago that it was greater than 50 percent, but I thought there was a real significant possibility there were Democrats who were floating trial balloons even back then.
00:05:49.440The media was floating trial balloons even back then.
00:05:52.460And as I laid out my reasoning, I thought Michelle Obama was the natural choice for them.
00:05:58.120And if I were a Democrat, that's where I would push.
00:06:01.620Now, over the last couple of months, I adjusted those odds to 50-50 or greater.
00:06:08.880That they would pull the cord on Joe Biden.
00:06:11.360As things started getting worse and worse and worse, I thought the odds were getting higher and higher.
00:06:16.760And then after the disastrous debate, you and I both watched the debate.
00:07:28.280We have seen Democrats positioning, fighting, pushing for Kamala to be the choice.
00:07:33.520And so as I'm handicapping it right now in terms of who's going to be the Democrat nominee come November, I put the odds 40 percent Michelle Obama, 40 percent Kamala Harris and 20 percent Joe Biden.
00:08:17.500The money at the end of the day will sort itself out.
00:08:20.720The Democrats are not going to be lacking for money in November.
00:08:23.680They've got gazillionaires who will devote whatever money is necessary to try to elect a Democrat.
00:08:30.360That's not going to constrain their choice.
00:08:32.780Look, Michelle Obama, what I laid out 10 months ago was that Kamala was obviously a deeply flawed candidate.
00:08:40.660But if you wanted to push her aside, the Democrats could not push her aside and replace her with a white guy because their party, they're such bean counters.
00:10:47.900Kamala is a much stronger candidate than you think.
00:10:50.460All of you people who think she's a weak candidate, you're all wrong.
00:10:54.580And she's going to be Madam President.
00:10:56.620We saw, you know, Jim Clyburn go on TV and say, look, I support Biden-Harris.
00:11:01.340And that means I support Joe Biden, even if Kamala Harris is not on the ticket.
00:11:05.220And but he goes on to say, and that means I support Kamala Harris, even if Joe Biden's not on the ticket.
00:11:10.540Now, that's a big deal, because without Clyburn, Biden doesn't get the nomination in 2020.
00:11:14.580He played a pivotal role in stampeding Democrats away from Bernie Sanders to Joe Biden.
00:11:21.440And I think that was a serious signal that the powers that be, they're freaking out.
00:11:28.880But more of them are getting behind Kamala than I thought would happen.
00:11:33.300Let's talk about this Stephanopoulos interview.
00:11:35.760And you and I mentioned that it was an important interview, obviously, at the end of last week.
00:11:41.280It was an interview that was actually heavily watched.
00:11:44.280Some of the ratings show that a lot of Americans watched it.
00:11:47.100It was obviously a topic of conversation for July 4th with people, with their family, with their friends.
00:11:53.520And and if you're a Democrat, I think it's actually the center of your universe right now, because you're trying to figure out what in the heck are we going to do this interview?
00:12:01.520As I watched it, I don't think it helped the president at all.
00:12:06.720There was one moment in there that was actually shocking to me.
00:12:10.300And Stephanopoulos asked the president, did you watch the debate afterwards?
00:12:16.460And he paused and he said, no, I don't think I did.
00:12:21.880You would know if you watched the debate that was days earlier.
00:12:26.960You wouldn't say, no, I don't think I did.
00:12:31.360I don't think this interview helped the president at all.
00:12:49.400I've watched little excerpts from them.
00:12:52.180You know, Frank Luntz does his dial group things.
00:12:55.660And I've had Frank for several debates has like gone through, say, a half dozen moments of the debate and played, you know, a minute or 90 seconds or two minutes of it and showed me the dial groups of what people liked and what people didn't.
00:14:34.460That night we had a debate for the Senate race.
00:14:37.520And it was an interesting debate because at the time, David Dewhurst, who was the lieutenant governor and was the leading candidate who was supposed to walk into a coronation, he didn't participate at all.
00:14:48.480And so it was several of us that were considered by the media to be the kind of second tier.
00:14:54.040But it was the only Senate debate, you may not know this either, that Dan Patrick, who's now the lieutenant governor of Texas, Dan participated in.
00:15:01.640He didn't actually run for Senate, but he kind of thought about it.
00:15:04.480He thought about it enough to participate in the debate.
00:15:08.060And that debate that night, I'd had between an hour and two hours sleep.
00:15:11.940And as the debate was going on, to be absolutely honest, Ben, I was just falling asleep.
00:15:16.760I was literally like nodding over there.
00:15:19.680And my answers, I think some of my answers were shorter than Biden.
00:15:25.200You know, like at some point, I don't know, they asked me something like, you know, would you abolish Social Security?
00:15:31.440I don't remember, something like that.
00:17:19.440And in Joe Biden, we have a president who is probably one of the boldest and strongest American presidents we have had in his response to the needs of the American people.
00:17:36.000But he is an extraordinary leader, and I wish that people could see what I see, because there's only one person who sits behind that resolute desk.
00:18:36.100When I talk to these young voters, what they want is a leader who is in touch with the problems of today and has a vision for what we can do today and in the future to deal with it.
00:18:47.840President Biden is the first president to take on, in any substantial way, the issue of the climate crisis.
00:18:54.820I mean, you listen to this, and I've got another four minutes, but that's just some of the highlights.
00:19:00.340She lied to the American people and has been definitely involved in this cover-up.
00:19:05.280She, for years, has said Biden is, quote, very bold and vibrant.
00:19:09.180Then she says he's tireless in terms of working and says he's going to be fine.
00:19:18.720So if she gets the nomination, how big is this going to come back, I think, of a conversation with Donald Trump and whoever he picks when they go up against her?
00:19:29.460Look, I think in terms of the media, absolutely not at all.
00:20:28.600They didn't care that they were lying.
00:20:30.320And the frustrating thing is they don't care now.
00:20:34.100They'd be perfectly fine to prop Joe Biden up and weaken at Bernie's him for the next four years if it keeps them in power.
00:20:43.280The only reason they care is because they're looking at poll numbers saying, oh, crap, people don't want to elect someone president who's non-composimentous.
00:20:51.920If they thought they could get away with it politically, they'd be perfectly fine with our commander-in-chief being unable to tie his own shoes.
00:22:33.740After the George Stepanopoulos interview took place, Biden refused to commit to an independent medical evaluation.
00:22:42.140If he was trying to get everyone to calm down, wouldn't your campaign say yes to doing this unless they're hiding something?
00:22:51.440Would you be willing to undergo an independent medical evaluation that included neurological and cognitive tests and release the results to the American people?
00:23:00.120Look, I have a cognitive test every single day.
00:23:36.360Well, and look, to be fair, he may well have had that test.
00:23:39.240I mean, we also had the stories break this past week that the New York Post, President Biden's physician met with Parkinson's disease specialist in the White House.
00:23:50.480A top Washington neurologist had a meeting with President Biden's personal doctor at the White House earlier this year.
00:23:56.500Visitor's logs reviewed by the Post show.
00:23:59.060Dr. Kevin Kennard, a Parkinson's disease expert at Walter Reed Medical Center, met with Dr. Kevin O'Connor and two others at the White House Residence Clinic on January 17th, according to records.
00:24:09.680Which emerged as questions continue to swirl about the 81-year-old president's mental health in the wake of his debate debacle last week with former President Trump.
00:24:19.760Now, there was yet another headline from the Washington Examiner, which is even more stunning, which is, quote,
00:24:26.840Top Parkinson's disease specialist visited White House 10 times since 2022, according to the visitor's logs.
00:24:36.640And I'm going to read from that story.
00:24:38.580President Joe Biden's physician met with a top Washington, D.C. neurologist who specialized in Parkinson's disease earlier this year.
00:24:47.120Kennard's name shows up in the visitor's logs 10 times since November 15th, 2020.
00:24:54.060And Ron Jackson, who, Ronnie Jackson, who, now the congressman from Texas, a good friend who used to be the White House physician, said, quote,
00:25:03.300It is highly likely that we're talking about Biden.
00:25:07.020He should only be regularly treating the president and the first family.
00:25:40.980No, they're doing it now, but it's not for the right reasons.
00:25:43.760And that's why I say don't give them any credit.
00:25:46.440It's because they've gotten their marching orders from Democratic donors and the Democratic Party that your job now is to get rid of Joe Biden.
00:25:53.860I mean, the Stephanopoulos interview, I wanted to give him credit, but I know what's happening.
00:26:14.920But you have to understand they're doing it because they think they're going to lose their power because they think they're going to lose with Joe Biden.
00:26:27.680It's why I put the odds at 80 percent.
00:26:30.000And look, over the last week, the drip, drip, drip keeps coming.
00:26:33.700So the New York Times in this past week reported, quote, a senior White House official, though unnamed, is telling the New York Times Biden should stand aside.
00:26:42.360That's a senior White House official in the Biden White House, mind you.
00:26:45.640The Washington Post on July 5th, Senator Mark Warner, a Democrat, works to gather Senate Democrats to ask Biden to exit the race.
00:26:53.600Then on July 7th, Axios reports that the Democratic senator's Biden huddle is called off.
00:27:00.340And here's what Axios reported, quote,
00:27:01.960Senate Democrats won't meet Monday to discuss their support for President Biden continuing his reelection bid, despite an effort by Senator Mark Warner to organize such a meeting.
00:27:13.240This every day we have now, I think it's five Democrat House members who have called for Biden to step down.
00:27:22.420And every day it keeps getting more and more and more.
00:27:25.680And there's nothing the Biden White House has done to stop the bleeding.
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00:27:59.800They've also tried to act like the president's willing to do interviews anywhere at any time.
00:28:04.640And this has now turned into another major problem for this White House.
00:28:08.380You have one radio host who's now been fired and another one that is under major scrutiny because in two different cities,
00:28:16.060in two different places in America, the same exact interview took place with Joe Biden, CNN calling out one of the hosts as they interview these radio hosts who spoke with Biden.
00:28:30.100And they had these interviews and they knew what they were doing.
00:28:34.020They heard the questions of both interviews in separate cities.
00:28:36.780And they're like, this is the same damn interview happening two times over.
00:28:40.640And then CNN's like, all right, we're all in favor of getting Joe Biden out.
00:28:44.240So they called out the White House for this.
00:29:07.600What he has to say about his debate performance and what he would say to voters who think their vote doesn't matter or might sit this election out.
00:29:14.440Were those questions given to you by the White House or did you have or the campaign?
00:29:19.880Or did you have to submit questions ahead of this interview?
00:29:25.080The questions were sent to me for approval.
00:29:41.320And the reason I ask is not a criticism of either view.
00:29:43.700It's just that if the White House is trying now to prove the the vim, vigor, acuity of the president,
00:29:50.920I don't know how they do that by sending questions first before the interview so that the president knows what's coming.
00:29:58.880Now, the campaign and his statements did not deny providing these questions to that radio show host.
00:30:05.320But they did add that the interview was not conditioned on acceptance of those questions and added that the any reporter can ask the questions they see fit.
00:30:13.920Now, today, the campaign is also saying that they are changing their practices going forward and that they will no longer be recommending questions ahead of interviews.
00:30:22.500There's one source familiar with the Biden booking operation over at the campaign said,
00:30:27.080While interview hosts have always been free to ask whatever questions they please, moving forward, we will refrain from offering suggested questions.
00:30:34.800I mean, you listen to that and not only did this one person that was in that interview, that radio host, Andrea Lawful Sanders,
00:30:45.980she's been forced to resign from WURD radio after admitting her post-debate interview with President Biden included questions that were pre-selected by the Biden campaign team.
00:30:55.900The station owner said it was furious by this.
00:31:00.800The present CEO of the Philadelphia Bay station announced a statement posted on Sunday.
00:31:05.460This the interview featured predetermined questions provided by the White House,
00:31:10.120which violates our practice of remaining an independent media outlet accountable for to our listeners.
00:31:15.840As a result, Ms. Lawful Sanders and WURD radio have mutually agreed to part ways effective immediately.
00:31:23.180Now, WURD, by the way, is Pennsylvania's only black-owned talk radio station.
00:31:29.260So this was a terrible day for the history and heritage of the station to basically realize that the White House called and said,
00:31:36.180Hey, you want Biden? All right, we'll give you Biden on your show and give you this press,
00:31:41.320but only if you ask the four questions that we tell you to ask.
00:31:45.860And not only do they do it in this city, but they also did it back in Milwaukee as well.
00:31:53.360Number one, it's very interesting to know that there are apparently still people at CNN who know how to do journalism.
00:31:58.660I didn't think they knew how to do that.
00:32:00.760But but you actually saw very briefly a CNN journalist asking questions, behaving like a real journalist.
00:32:06.540And you're right. It's because the narrative has shifted and they're now, I think, happy to push Biden out.
00:32:12.640Two months ago, they would not have been willing to do that.
00:32:15.680But secondly, this thing is utterly corrupt.
00:32:19.000It shows how completely in bed with with the Democrats that that the media is that that that you have the White House or the campaign.
00:32:30.080And I guess they don't specify which one it is giving the questions to the interviewer saying, here's what you will ask,
00:32:36.180which means, by the way, that Joe Biden is probably reading the answers that that that, you know, he and it makes you wonder how many other reporters have done that.
00:32:46.200At the White House press briefing, when Biden has a list in front of him, call on so and so.
00:32:50.960How many times does he know the question and read the answer to it?
00:32:55.900And look, you've worked in media a long time.
00:32:59.580I've been in in the Senate for 12 years for people listening to this podcast.
00:33:04.880You need to understand this is not normal.
00:33:08.340It's at least not normal if you're not a corrupt Democrat.
00:33:12.240Well, I mean, I mean, look, I do this a fair amount with people that I interview right over the years.
00:33:18.660And I've had campaigns or offices say, hey, the senator or the congressman or the governor has this piece of legislation.
00:33:27.660If you'd please ask him a question about that.
00:33:30.400It's something that's very important and that it's going to be introduced.
00:33:49.620You might as well just have the president sit there at the White House and say, here are the four questions I'm going to answer today that I chose.
00:33:55.560Yeah, look, it's I've done hundreds of interviews, if not maybe thousands of interviews.
00:34:02.660I've done a crap ton of interviews to the best of my knowledge.
00:34:07.200I've certainly never submitted questions, the best of my knowledge, no one on my team has.
00:34:11.940Now, what is typical is what you just said.
00:34:14.020If you're doing an interview, let's say I'm going on Hannity.
00:34:17.700It's typical that that that my press team will talk with Hannity's producers and they'll discuss some topics.
00:34:23.940So if you're going to talk about the Biden debate or if you're going to talk about illegal immigration or sometimes there's some story that just broke of like Israel.
00:34:34.480That or the terrorist, you know, being the the eight terrorists, suspected terrorists from Tajikistan just released.
00:34:42.460If there's a story that just broke, the producer will tell my press team, hey, Sean wants to ask about this.
00:34:48.160That's typical. So you have some idea what the topic is you're discussing so that you can be prepared.
00:34:55.840But I'll tell you, my guess is of the interviews I do, at least half of them, they asked me something that is not a topic that they mentioned at all.
00:35:03.880So, you know, it's helpful to have, OK, if we're going to do Israel, I should probably be up on the latest developments of what's happened on Israel in the last few days.
00:35:12.620But it is an absolute violation of journalistic ethics and norms to simply read the questions the campaign handed you and and and the absolute arrogance that the Biden campaign has that they they fully assume that that that that fake journalists will be more than happy to comply.
00:35:38.020Yeah, it's like they're shopping for anyone. They'll play game at this point.
00:35:42.020And the worst part for for me, I think, is the fact that they did this in response to the debate to try to convince the American people that he is, you know, easy on his feet, that he can do these interviews, that he's not scripted, that he can talk off the cuff.
00:36:00.680When, in fact, we pull back the curtain yet again. And it's another lie of the American people. It's all fake. It was all set up. He knew exactly what the interview was going to be in both cities.
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00:38:09.100Senator, I got two more questions for you, and it deals again with the media.
00:38:12.900One, the media hypocrisy, I think, is at an all-time high.
00:38:16.940But how long until the media gets back in line and it's business as usual, how many more days can they continue to go after Joe Biden if he refuses to drop out?
00:38:26.520Well, I think the instant Biden is out and they coronate the next person, then the media will absolutely fall in line and it will become a straight-on cheerleading.
00:38:35.920It will be, hallelujah, hallelujah, the problems are all solved.
00:38:38.820Now we must all vote for either Kamala or Michelle Obama and save America and stop Orange Man bad.
00:38:49.580But, you know, let me make a couple of quick more observations on that point.
00:38:54.440But, you know, as you and I were talking about doing interviews and getting questions ahead of time, as I said, I've done a gazillion of them and have not had the questions ahead of time.
00:39:04.360But, you know, I was actually thinking about it.
00:39:07.660On this podcast, we've interviewed a bunch of folks.
00:39:13.500But even when we interview people on this podcast, we've never given people questions ahead of time.
00:39:20.020And I actually thought back to an interview that on this podcast, actually, before you were my co-host, when it was Michael Knowles and me, where we interviewed Bill Barr.
00:39:32.540And we interviewed Bill Barr at the Department of Justice.
00:39:57.480But it ended up being it was one of our most listens podcast we've ever done, in part because Bill was someone who would come across on TV as as pretty stiff and tight and, you know, very controlled.
00:40:10.920And because he and I are friends, he was relaxed and we were cutting up.
00:40:22.760We had a great free range, free ranging interview that, look, when a podcast is good, it sounds like a couple of guys sitting at a cafe having dinner and just shooting the breeze talking about what's going on.
00:40:36.900But even then, with someone I'd known 20 years, I don't even think I told him the topics we were going to discuss.
00:40:51.680About just how astonishingly rapidly the media can do 180 degree reversal.
00:41:00.760So on this podcast, we've talked a lot about Hunter Biden and the whole Hunter Biden investigations and the trials.
00:41:08.480And for months and months and months and for years and years and years, the White House narrative and the corporate media narrative was Hunter is a poor, troubled son.
00:41:30.820Hunter, when he was making millions of dollars from every corrupt oligarch in every enemy of America across the planet, whether the Chinese communists or the Russians or what have you, that had nothing to do with favors from Papa Joe.
00:41:53.540I want to read you this paragraph from Axios on July 7th behind the curtain on Bendable Biden versus Breaking Point Dems.
00:42:03.500Quote, we're now in uncharted historic waters.
00:42:07.820President Biden, backed by First Lady Jill Biden and his convicted son Hunter, who's serving as de facto gatekeeper to his dad, says that nothing besides an act of God will persuade him to quit his reelection campaign.
00:42:25.780So without missing a beat, the corporate media can now suddenly admit Hunter is, quote, de facto gatekeeper to his dad.
00:42:36.480This is the same Hunter who about 12 minutes ago, their walking storyline was, no, I don't know, Hunter's never met Joe Biden.
00:42:54.360I give them a week and a half, two weeks, and then they'll start dialing back the full court press to get Biden out because they're then going to be afraid.
00:43:04.300Maybe we can't get rid of him by when we want to.
00:43:32.940We're weeks away from you and I going to the convention.
00:43:35.840We have no idea who the VP candidate is, and I'm not sure he does either.
00:43:40.380Look, it is not a crazy question to ask.
00:43:43.860The Trump campaign has said repeatedly that they'll announce the VP by the convention.
00:43:49.820And, you know, usually the VP gives a big speech at the convention the day before the president does.
00:43:57.780It is a tricky question because if you don't know who you're running against, that is certainly a real factor in trying to decide who the VP is.
00:44:05.780Because it would I have not looked at the legal questions and how complicated it would be to name a VP after the convention.
00:44:13.320But it would not be insane for Trump to delay that choice until he has some real confidence who his opponent's going to be.
00:44:22.120Yeah, and that's where I'm sitting there just scratching my head.