00:01:47.260Number one, in exchange for the 50 hostages being released, Israel has apparently committed to releasing 150 Palestinians that are in jail.
00:01:59.800And according to the terms of the agreement, the Palestinians being released are also women and children.
00:02:06.080Now, on the face of it, Israel doesn't take hostages.
00:02:10.320So these are not civilians that were taken as hostages, but rather they are criminals who were arrested for committing crimes
00:02:18.400and presumably crimes directly related to terrorism.
00:02:22.240And so even though they are described as children, we have not as of yet seen the list of the 150 Palestinians to be released.
00:02:32.300And Hamas, with regularity, uses teenagers, uses 16, 17-year-olds to commit acts of terrorism.
00:02:39.740So it is entirely possible that among those 150 being released are a number of people who have been terrorists
00:02:48.040and who, upon being released, will return to being terrorists fighting with Hamas.
00:02:53.160We don't know that for sure, but that is a very likely risk.
00:02:58.760In addition, under the terms of the agreement, Israel is engaging in a four-day pause in fighting in Gaza.
00:03:08.240And so it is stopping. Israel has been making major advances in Gaza working to eliminate Hamas.
00:03:16.020The four-day pause is going to give Hamas time to restock, time to rebuild, time to get stronger.
00:03:23.260And as a component of this deal, Israel agreed to allow roughly 300 aid trucks per day into Gaza from Egypt.
00:03:33.460Now, included in those aid trucks will be fuel trucks, and that fuel will be a significant benefit for Hamas.
00:03:42.040Hamas right now, many of the Hamas terrorists are hiding in tunnels in Gaza.
00:03:47.360And those tunnels are kept lighted and kept ventilated using generators.
00:03:54.600And so they need the fuel to stay in the tunnels to evade capture, to evade being taken out by the Israeli military.
00:04:02.740And so allowing that much fuel to flow into Gaza enables Hamas to be stronger.
00:04:08.840And so the consequence of this is it is going to be more difficult to follow through on Israel's stated commitment,
00:04:15.720a commitment that I believe is critical that they follow through on, to utterly eliminate Hamas, because Hamas will become stronger.
00:04:22.960But that being said, 50 hostages coming home is a big, big deal.
00:04:28.040And so we should celebrate 50 hostages coming home.
00:04:32.260When you talk about what this means for the future, there's going to be some people that are going to be very concerned over,
00:04:38.360OK, does this incentivize terrorist organizations, not just Hamas, but others, to start taking hostages,
00:04:44.960because then you can use them to your advantage in the future.
00:04:48.540When, you know, we've had a quote unquote policy of we do not negotiate with hostages and with terrorists yet.
00:04:54.780Clearly, this administration, the Biden administration has done that.
00:04:58.540We've also seen it with what happened in Russia, for example, when we decided that we would get back a NBA player,
00:05:05.500but leave another man over in Russia in that trade for the merchant of death.
00:05:09.940This concerns me, obviously, from that perspective, from a national security standpoint for Americans, your reaction from that perspective.
00:05:19.180So, look, of course, it incentivizes the taking of hostages.
00:05:22.620And one of the tragedies, this is what happens when terrorists take hostages, is that it forces individuals and families,
00:05:31.100it forces countries to make bad decisions and to make sometimes terrible deals.
00:05:36.560Now, sometimes the deals are really terrible, such as the Biden administration giving $6 billion for five American hostages,
00:05:45.740basically setting a bounty of $1.2 billion per American you take hostage.
00:05:51.460We don't know if among these these 50 hostages being released, if any of them are Americans.
00:05:57.360We do know that Hamas on October 7th and in the aftermath of it murdered 31 Americans.
00:06:02.880We know roughly a dozen Americans are held hostage.
00:06:06.520We don't know if any of these hostages being released are Americans.
00:06:10.540But, yes, and I will say, look, Israel has been in this situation before when you are fighting terrorists and they're taking hostages.
00:06:21.020Israel is engaged in hostage negotiations.
00:06:24.100Israel is engaged in prisoner exchanges before, and then that's part of being a nation at war.
00:06:29.880But I'm sure it is why the Israeli war cabinet debated and debated for five hours.
00:06:36.100And I'm sure this was not an easy decision, and it was not an easy decision because it does incentivize the taking of hostages.
00:06:50.040In terms of the war cabinet, only three members of the war cabinet voted no.
00:06:55.160They were all ministers of the Jewish Power Party, which is in Israeli politics on the far right.
00:07:03.520There were another three ministers of the religious religious Zionist Party who, before the meeting, said they were going to vote no.
00:07:13.540And they changed their position after hearing from the heads of the security services who recommended approving the deal.
00:07:20.480And I know everyone in the Israeli government wrestled with this because, as I said, this will make Hamas stronger.
00:07:30.680But when 50 women and children come home and hug their moms and dads and hug their brothers and sisters and hug their husbands, that is an incredible thing, and that is worth celebrating.
00:07:47.100Now, at the same time, while we are celebrating the return of 50 hostages, we need to remember that there are between 150 and 200 additional hostages.
00:08:00.080And Prime Minister Netanyahu has said that if Hamas continues releasing hostages, that he will extend the pause in the invasion of Gaza, and he will extend it at a rate of 10 hostages per day.
00:08:19.000So Hamas can buy additional time by releasing hostages.
00:08:24.000And there's a trade-off that's a horrible trade-off, but it's worth remembering, Ben.
00:08:30.060Israel laid out two objectives in the days immediately following October 7th.
00:08:36.220Number one was get the hostages back, get them home.
00:08:38.740And this accomplishes a significant step towards that.
00:08:43.880There are still far too many hostages, but 50 hostages coming home is a major step forward.
00:08:50.340But secondly, Israel pledged to utterly and completely eliminate Hamas.
00:08:56.360That was the right thing to do, and I will say I very much hope that as this deal goes into effect, that we know we will see the global community and all of the left and all of the global press and all of the woke press leaning on Israel not to resume the invasion of Gaza, not to resume trying to take out Hamas.
00:09:21.920And I very much fear the Biden White House will be the loudest among those voices saying, OK, enough, don't go after Hamas anymore.
00:09:32.560And I think it will be incumbent on all of us to say once the four-day agreed period is over, once Hamas has stopped releasing hostages, Israel needs to finish the task it set out of eliminating Hamas.
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00:12:12.320We don't know the status of them, and we don't have an exact count.
00:12:16.260But it is in the range of 10 American hostages and two who have already been released and 31 who were murdered on October 7th.
00:12:27.120Well, I want to ask you also about some of the videos that have been coming out.
00:12:32.080And I think it's really important that we highlight this because so many, Senator, in the media have been refusing to talk about this.
00:12:39.460And that is the extensive tunnel system that now clearly is under the hospital in Gaza.
00:12:48.200And also now we know that some of these hostages were taken to that hospital after they were taken hostage.
00:12:56.260It is very clear, it's obvious, that this hospital in Gaza that everyone had heard about, that apparently Israel bombed, which didn't actually happen,
00:13:08.100has clearly been used in essence like a base for Hamas, a human shield for Hamas.
00:13:14.460And the tunnel system, which they have now been able to find, that is going in and out of that hospital,
00:13:19.480is incredibly an intensive underground network.
00:13:23.560And some of this fuel, like you mentioned, goes directly to turning those lights on and the ventilation of that tunnel system,
00:13:30.080which Israel has found and is obviously trying to get rid of.