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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- November 24, 2023
Perfect Black Friday Christmas Gift-The Bestseller Book Unwoke: How to Defeat Cultural Marxism In America
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Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
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And Senator, let's just start with congratulations.
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It's official. Your new book is out, Unwoke, How to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America.
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And I have to say, when you get the book, if you haven't gotten the book,
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the best page, just skip right ahead to page number 40.
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It's the best page in the book, so congrats on that.
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Most importantly, Senator, page 40, phenomenal.
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You should definitely just go right there, read that, and then start at the very beginning.
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Ben, what the hell is on page 40? I don't know what's on page 40.
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Page 40, it says, and I will quote here,
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Every podcast is done alongside my co-host today.
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That's Ben Ferguson, the nationally syndicated radio host has become a very dear friend.
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I got a shout out. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that.
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So I actually think maybe the best page in the book is the very first page of the book of your copy.
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Because I gave you a copy. I gave you a signed copy.
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You did.
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And if you recall, the inscription that I wrote on the front,
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I said, Ben,
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You are one of the three best hosts in history of the Verdict podcast.
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Don't leave out the word, undoubtedly.
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You used that word.
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Undoubtedly.
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There we go.
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I want to make sure that I get that in the history books.
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Now, never mind that there have only been three hosts of Verdict,
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and that would be you, me, and Michael Knowles,
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but you are undoubtedly one of the three best.
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Yes, and that's on the shelf right now.
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And the second sentence I actually liked even better than the first,
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and I said of all of the men to play college tennis,
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you're one of them.
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There we go.
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You are one of them.
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So this is the best part.
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When you signed this, I didn't want to travel with it,
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and you and I have been on the road.
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We were on the road last week,
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and I didn't want to travel with the book,
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because I was like,
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all right, this is what I want to genuinely say forever.
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So I got home from the trip,
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and I didn't want to knock the book around.
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So I was reading all day yesterday and all day today
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to make sure that we could have a stellar interview
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on your own show about your book.
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So let's start with the title.
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Why did you pick the title Unwoke?
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And also, for people that don't understand
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what the definition of cultural Marxism is,
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what does that mean?
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Look, I wrote this book because the world has gone insane,
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and my reaction is the same as millions of people
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as the listeners of this podcast.
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Our reaction is, what the hell happened?
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How did things get so crazy so fast?
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This book is my best effort to explain it,
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and in particular, it's explaining
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how the radical left has seized
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every major institution in America.
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And so the book starts, chapter one,
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is the universities.
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And I call the universities
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the Wuhan lab of the woke virus.
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The universities are where the virus was created.
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It's where it mutated, and it's where it spread.
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Each chapter of the book focuses on a different institution
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the radical left has seized.
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So, chapter two focuses on K-12 education
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and all the radical garbage being put on our kids,
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whether it's critical race theory or radical transgenderism.
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Chapter three focuses on journalism
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and how journalism has changed from covering the news to propaganda.
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From there I go to big business
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and how big business today, the Fortune 100,
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are the economic enforcers of the radical left.
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From there I go to big tech
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and how big tech is pervasively censoring speech.
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From there I go to entertainment.
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And by the way, if I could have just one back,
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I would have entertainment back.
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Entertainment, I think, is the most consequential of all of these.
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And in entertainment we talk about Hollywood and movies
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and television and sports and music.
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We break it all down.
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From there we go to science.
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And I talk about how science has been corrupted and politicized.
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And the final chapter in the book is on China
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and explains how China is a nexus that links them all.
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And the book was really designed to do two things.
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Number one, explain how and why, specifically,
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the radical left took over every one of those institutions.
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And they did it from the inside.
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But secondly, to lay out a clear battle plan
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how we take them back, how we fight back.
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I believe we will take this country back.
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And this book is laying out how we recapture
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the institutions of America.
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You know, in this book, and I encourage people to get it
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because there is just incredible history
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in the very beginning as well about your family.
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I know your father and have gotten to spend some time with him.
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He's an awesome, just individual to be around.
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He's jovial.
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He can be funny.
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He loves this country.
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But there is some incredible history,
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not only about your family,
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but also how your father was involved in Cuba
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in the students at a young age
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and what was happening really with the revolution down there
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and how he was, I guess you could say,
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brought in to this revolution with Castro
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not realizing what Castro was doing.
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And it started at a young age
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where they were targeting children.
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And it was an incredible part of the story,
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not just because of what happened,
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but also how he was beaten
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and how his life was threatened
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and how he was a marked man who had to get out
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and come to America.
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Talk a little bit about that story
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of that being your history of your family.
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And also it's a warning
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to what's happening in this country right now.
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Senator, talk about this family history.
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It's the beginning of the book,
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and it takes your breath away
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when you realize
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how close your father was
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to death in Cuba.
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Well, my family story
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is a huge part
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of why this matters so much to me.
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It's personal and it's real.
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And what I want to do
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is just read you
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the first page of the book.
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His white linen suit
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was stained red with blood,
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blood that had been beaten out of him
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with a club,
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regularly,
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each hour,
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breaking his nose,
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shattering his teeth,
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scarlet red blood,
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as if his suit were emblazoned
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with the color
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of the Marxist revolution
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of which he was a part.
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As my father lay
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on that prison floor,
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crumpled and broken,
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not a spot of white
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was visible
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on the now torn
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and tattered suit
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he had been given
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for his 17th birthday.
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Instead,
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mud and dirt
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and grime
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and blood.
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To this day,
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my dad remembers
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what he was thinking
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in that dark hole.
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Nobody depends on me.
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I have no wife,
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no children.
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It doesn't matter
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if I live or I die.
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Three years earlier,
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when he was just 14,
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my father had made
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the fateful decision
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to join up
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with the revolution
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in his homeland
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of Cuba
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to follow
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Fidel Castro.
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My dad was young
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and ignorant
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and naive.
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Rafael Bienvenido Cruz
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did not know
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that Castro
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was a communist.
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He didn't know
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the horrors
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that would befall
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the Cuban people
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at the hands
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of his new comrades.
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He just knew
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that the then dictator
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of Cuba,
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Fulgencio Batista,
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was corrupt
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and cruel
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and oppressive.
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As Francis Ford Coppola
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immortally chronicled
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in the Godfather saga,
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Batista was in bed
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with the American mafia,
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enjoying wealth
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and power
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purchased with the blood
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beaten out
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of the Cuban people.
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Look,
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that's my family story.
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My dad at 17
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was tortured.
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He was in prison.
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He fled Cuba.
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He came to America.
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My aunt,
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my Tia Sonia,
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whom I adore,
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who we actually had
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on verdict as a guest,
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talking about Cuba.
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She fought in the
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counter-revolution
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after Castro succeeded.
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She was in prison.
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She was tortured
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by Castro's goons.
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I tell her story
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in this book, too.
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I also tell the story
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of my grandmother,
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my abuela.
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My abuela was
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a sixth-grade teacher.
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And she told me
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she loved teaching.
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She loved teaching
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her students.
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And she had a pure
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photographic memory,
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man.
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It was incredible.
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She literally,
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everything she read,
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she remembered
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word for word.
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She told me
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about when Castro
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took over,
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that they almost
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immediately
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targeted the children.
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And one thing
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to understand,
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Marxists
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always begin
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with the kids.
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Always,
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always,
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always.
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As my father told me,
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the revolution,
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like he was,
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were a bunch of
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14 and 15-year-old boys
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who didn't know
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any better.
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Teenagers,
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and you look at
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every communist revolution
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in the world.
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Whether you're talking
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about Russia or China
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or North Korea
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or Cuba or Venezuela,
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it is always
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the young teenagers
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who are idealistic,
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who believe,
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and who are naive,
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who don't have
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the world experience
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to understand
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they're being lied to.
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But communists
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start not just
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with teenagers,
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they go younger.
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And what my grandmother
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told me is,
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she said,
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almost immediately
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after the revolution,
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they sent the army
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into the elementary schools,
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and soldiers
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would go into
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kindergartens
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and first grade,
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and they would tell
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all of the little kids,
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they'd say,
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close your eyes
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and pray to God
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for candy.
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And the kids
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all did so.
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And then they'd open
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their eyes
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and there'd be no candy.
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And then the soldiers
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would tell them,
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they'd say,
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close your eyes
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and pray to Fidel Castro
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for candy.
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And the kids did so,
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and while their eyes
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were closed,
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the soldiers
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would quietly slip
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a piece of candy
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on each child's desk.
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That's not an aberration.
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Che Guevara,
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who was a vicious,
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bloodthirsty murderer,
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he was Fidel Castro's
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right hand.
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Che Guevara described
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children as malleable clay,
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that you can take
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the defects out of them.
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You want to know
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why the cultural Marxists
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in America
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started in the universities.
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You want to know
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why they've gone in
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to K-12,
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to elementary schools,
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and junior highs
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and high schools.
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Because if you take
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the children,
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you take the nation.
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And this book
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is designed
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to lay out
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how they did it
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and how we take them back.
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You know,
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when I was reading
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this book,
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Senator,
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I go back to
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there's certain
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pivotal moments
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in I think
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everyone's life
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that you look back on
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and you go,
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wow,
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if that would have
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gone differently,
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my whole life
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would have gone differently
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or may not even exist
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in the first place.
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I was hit by a drunk driver
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when I was a young kid.
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We were in a car wreck.
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He died.
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We lived.
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And I go back
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to that moment
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in my life
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many times.
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I was in a,
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as you know,
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a shooting
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where I was a target
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of a gang initiation.
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I wonder
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if I would have been hit
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that night
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and my life would have,
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you know,
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I wouldn't have my kids.
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There's that moment
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in this book
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where you wrote,
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my father joined up
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and began doing acts
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of sabotage,
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burning government buildings,
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throwing cocktails,
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whatever he could
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to undermine
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the oppressive regime.
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That's what had landed him
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in prison at 17.
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Batista's police
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had caught him
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and they were extracting
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their brutal revenge.
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The next day,
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he was dragging
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to the office
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of a colonel
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who told him,
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I'm letting you go.
00:13:49.680
But if another bomb
00:13:50.640
goes off,
00:13:51.300
if another fire starts,
00:13:52.540
I'm blaming you.
00:13:53.880
How can I be responsible
00:13:55.120
for every bad thing
00:13:55.940
that happens in this city?
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My father asked.
00:13:58.140
I don't care,
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replied the commander.
00:14:00.000
I'm holding you responsible.
00:14:02.560
Your father returned home.
00:14:04.240
My abuela wept.
00:14:05.640
Her eldest child
00:14:06.500
had walked in the door,
00:14:07.600
beaten,
00:14:08.080
covered in his own blood.
00:14:09.480
As she told me
00:14:10.660
when I was a child
00:14:11.860
that imagined that
00:14:12.920
from that day
00:14:13.620
was scared into her mind
00:14:15.480
forever.
00:14:16.420
Forever.
00:14:17.320
My abuela told him,
00:14:18.700
get out of the country.
00:14:21.060
And that was the turning point
00:14:22.760
for your entire family history
00:14:24.700
because not only did he get out,
00:14:26.880
but he applied to colleges
00:14:28.440
in America,
00:14:29.680
to the University of Miami,
00:14:31.440
to LSU,
00:14:32.120
to the University of Texas.
00:14:33.880
Texas was the first one
00:14:35.180
that let him in.
00:14:35.860
And that's how he came
00:14:37.760
to America.
00:14:39.000
That's how you became
00:14:40.400
a Texan.
00:14:41.580
And that's how
00:14:42.640
your family history
00:14:43.740
started anew
00:14:44.860
with a clean slate
00:14:45.920
in America.
00:14:46.920
When you were writing that,
00:14:48.300
I'm assuming
00:14:48.860
you've heard the story
00:14:50.100
many times,
00:14:50.680
but when you put it on paper,
00:14:52.060
it took my breath away.
00:14:53.280
Look, the book
00:14:55.540
is actually dedicated,
00:14:57.680
I don't think
00:14:58.040
they know this yet,
00:14:58.840
but it is dedicated
00:14:59.780
to my father,
00:15:02.920
my Tia Sonia,
00:15:04.080
and my abuela
00:15:04.800
in my family,
00:15:07.000
the original
00:15:07.500
freedom fighters.
00:15:08.880
I don't think
00:15:09.580
my abuela is dead,
00:15:11.060
but I don't think
00:15:11.940
either my dad
00:15:12.560
or Tia Sonia
00:15:13.400
have seen that yet.
00:15:14.520
Now, my dad listens
00:15:15.400
to Verdict,
00:15:15.960
so he may find it out
00:15:19.020
right now
00:15:19.660
listening to the podcast.
00:15:21.900
But it was,
00:15:22.880
I mean,
00:15:23.100
when I,
00:15:23.520
it's actually
00:15:24.340
the very last thing
00:15:25.100
I type on the book
00:15:25.800
is the dedication,
00:15:26.700
and that was,
00:15:28.040
look,
00:15:28.520
it's why I am
00:15:30.900
who I am.
00:15:31.640
I grew up as a kid
00:15:32.920
sitting at the feet
00:15:34.720
of my father
00:15:35.420
and my Tia Sonia
00:15:36.200
and hearing about
00:15:36.780
freedom fighters,
00:15:37.580
and it is
00:15:38.780
an unbelievable blessing
00:15:40.360
when you are the child
00:15:42.820
of someone
00:15:43.360
who fled oppression
00:15:44.340
and came to America
00:15:45.500
seeking freedom.
00:15:47.140
Our freedom
00:15:47.520
is not a joke.
00:15:48.600
It's not something
00:15:49.360
that's kind of interesting.
00:15:50.360
It is incredibly serious.
00:15:53.980
We either,
00:15:54.580
we defend our freedom here
00:15:56.020
or we lose America.
00:15:57.460
I hate communists.
00:15:59.140
I hate them
00:15:59.800
with a passion
00:16:00.960
from the pit of my gut.
00:16:02.960
They are evil.
00:16:04.660
Communism has been
00:16:05.480
responsible for more death,
00:16:06.960
more misery,
00:16:07.620
more destruction,
00:16:08.400
more poverty,
00:16:09.080
more suffering
00:16:09.780
than any force
00:16:11.500
in the history of humanity.
00:16:13.700
And this book
00:16:14.880
is all about
00:16:15.800
how the same philosophy
00:16:19.480
that has produced
00:16:20.440
such misery
00:16:21.280
is taking over
00:16:23.040
and has taken over
00:16:24.240
the major institutions
00:16:25.840
of America.
00:16:26.800
And look,
00:16:27.600
you've heard me say this before,
00:16:28.780
but as a child,
00:16:29.540
my father probably
00:16:30.300
a thousand times
00:16:31.360
said to me,
00:16:32.020
when we lost our freedom
00:16:33.740
in Cuba,
00:16:34.120
I had a place to flee to.
00:16:35.520
If we lose our freedom
00:16:37.920
here in America,
00:16:39.460
where do we go?
00:16:41.100
That's what the stakes
00:16:42.180
are right now.
00:16:42.960
There was also a point
00:16:44.520
in there that hit me
00:16:46.120
and you said
00:16:47.460
that your dad
00:16:48.280
did something
00:16:48.940
that I think
00:16:49.600
we've lost
00:16:50.100
in this country.
00:16:51.060
And that's admitting
00:16:52.280
sometimes that maybe
00:16:53.440
we get things wrong.
00:16:54.580
Maybe this woke agenda
00:16:56.840
is a failure.
00:16:57.940
Maybe green alternative energy
00:16:59.480
in this green religion
00:17:01.500
is a failure.
00:17:02.760
We've tried this,
00:17:04.300
you know,
00:17:04.620
the government
00:17:05.360
taking over our kids,
00:17:06.380
it's a failure.
00:17:07.380
And your dad
00:17:08.080
was an advocate
00:17:08.860
for Castro early on.
00:17:11.100
And he was ashamed by it.
00:17:12.380
He advocated for him
00:17:13.520
even in America.
00:17:15.000
And he sat down,
00:17:16.000
I'm reading from the book,
00:17:16.760
he sat down
00:17:17.560
and he made a list
00:17:18.780
of every place
00:17:19.480
he'd spoken in Austin,
00:17:20.820
Texas in support of Castro.
00:17:22.920
He then went back
00:17:23.800
to each and every one of them
00:17:25.460
and stood before
00:17:26.620
the same people
00:17:27.400
to make amends.
00:17:28.880
He said,
00:17:29.420
quote,
00:17:29.720
I am here to apologize,
00:17:32.020
he told them.
00:17:33.060
I misled you.
00:17:34.040
I didn't do so knowingly,
00:17:35.800
but I did so nonetheless.
00:17:37.300
I urge you to support
00:17:39.540
an evil man
00:17:40.880
and an evil Marxist regime.
00:17:42.820
And for that,
00:17:43.860
I am truly sorry.
00:17:45.640
For me,
00:17:46.120
that's not just a point
00:17:48.160
of incredible character.
00:17:51.700
But why don't we have that
00:17:53.380
with politicians today
00:17:55.000
where they can admit,
00:17:57.080
hey,
00:17:57.420
I may have gotten
00:17:58.280
something wrong
00:17:59.260
and I'm sorry
00:18:00.480
that I got it wrong.
00:18:01.460
We tried this
00:18:02.360
and it didn't work
00:18:03.220
because we are now,
00:18:04.660
we have so many
00:18:05.400
elected officials
00:18:06.100
that refuse to ever admit
00:18:07.300
they ever make a mistake
00:18:08.380
and as humans,
00:18:09.120
we make mistakes.
00:18:10.460
Look,
00:18:10.840
that's exactly right
00:18:11.880
and that story,
00:18:13.180
likewise,
00:18:13.620
my father told me
00:18:14.580
thousands of times.
00:18:15.700
I was probably,
00:18:16.460
I don't know,
00:18:16.760
two or three years old
00:18:17.700
the first time I heard that
00:18:18.760
and I've admired it
00:18:20.940
every time I've heard it
00:18:21.780
because to have the courage,
00:18:23.540
he had gone
00:18:24.340
and spoken
00:18:25.340
at Rotary Clubs
00:18:26.700
and Kiwanis Clubs
00:18:27.660
in Austin
00:18:28.460
supporting Castro.
00:18:30.020
When he got here,
00:18:30.820
he got here,
00:18:31.160
it was 1957.
00:18:32.280
He was still
00:18:32.860
a young revolutionary.
00:18:33.780
He didn't know
00:18:34.520
that Castro
00:18:35.000
was a communist
00:18:35.620
and he hated Batista
00:18:37.240
and then when Castro
00:18:39.960
took over
00:18:40.640
and declared
00:18:41.100
he was a communist
00:18:41.840
and my dad saw
00:18:43.600
the evil
00:18:44.240
and oppression
00:18:44.860
and theft
00:18:45.480
and murder
00:18:46.020
and cruelty
00:18:46.740
and that as bad
00:18:48.180
as Batista was,
00:18:49.340
Fidel Castro
00:18:50.020
was a thousand times worse.
00:18:52.420
He had the character
00:18:53.140
to admit he's wrong.
00:18:54.400
You know,
00:18:54.740
I'm reminded of
00:18:55.560
the clip recently
00:18:57.920
where Barack Obama
00:18:59.040
played
00:18:59.660
that he said,
00:19:00.580
you know,
00:19:00.820
we are all complicit
00:19:03.840
in the Middle East
00:19:04.640
because he says,
00:19:05.280
well,
00:19:05.500
what Hamas did
00:19:06.200
was terrible
00:19:06.820
but he said,
00:19:07.920
what's happening
00:19:08.460
to the Palestinians,
00:19:09.980
the occupation
00:19:11.300
is unbearable
00:19:13.000
and I got to admit
00:19:13.860
of all the clips
00:19:15.980
of Obama,
00:19:16.540
that might be the one
00:19:17.220
that pisses me off
00:19:18.000
the most.
00:19:18.480
I actually did
00:19:19.400
yesterday
00:19:21.800
Megan Kelly's show,
00:19:23.460
her podcast
00:19:24.380
in New York
00:19:26.920
and was talking
00:19:27.480
about the book
00:19:28.340
and she played
00:19:30.560
that clip for me
00:19:31.480
and I try to
00:19:32.520
try to speak
00:19:33.900
reasonably
00:19:34.980
and respectably
00:19:35.780
and I try to limit
00:19:36.480
my cursing
00:19:37.100
but she played it to me
00:19:38.240
and I just said,
00:19:38.800
what utter bulls**t
00:19:40.320
and by the way,
00:19:41.360
anytime I say
00:19:41.900
something like that
00:19:42.560
my father
00:19:43.080
will call or text me
00:19:44.780
and say,
00:19:45.120
would you please
00:19:45.520
watch your language?
00:19:46.260
That's not really
00:19:47.040
a good thing to do
00:19:47.740
and my dad's right on that
00:19:48.680
but it just,
00:19:49.860
it's infuriating
00:19:51.660
and it's like,
00:19:52.200
look,
00:19:53.180
Obama,
00:19:53.840
you sent over
00:19:54.720
a hundred million dollars
00:19:55.840
to the Ayatollah
00:19:56.820
to Iran
00:19:57.900
you funded
00:19:58.620
these Hamas terrorists
00:19:59.640
you flooded money
00:20:00.740
into the Gaza Strip
00:20:01.600
you put money
00:20:02.100
directly in the hands
00:20:03.260
of these death squads
00:20:05.800
and you say
00:20:06.320
we're all complicit
00:20:07.320
and by the way
00:20:07.900
you're repeating
00:20:08.660
the bigoted racist lie
00:20:11.380
that there's an occupation
00:20:12.440
the Gaza Strip
00:20:13.160
is not occupied
00:20:14.020
Hamas controls
00:20:16.300
the Gaza Strip
00:20:16.920
Israel left
00:20:17.580
the Gaza Strip
00:20:18.160
it's entirely
00:20:18.820
the Palestinian
00:20:19.500
there is no occupation
00:20:21.300
zero
00:20:21.900
in Gaza
00:20:22.920
and yet
00:20:23.540
you know
00:20:24.680
is Barack Obama
00:20:27.080
capable of saying
00:20:28.060
it was a mistake
00:20:28.740
to send a hundred
00:20:29.360
billion dollars
00:20:29.980
to the Ayatollah
00:20:30.760
who chanced death
00:20:31.420
to America
00:20:31.840
death to Israel
00:20:32.540
no
00:20:32.860
is Joe Biden
00:20:34.040
capable of saying
00:20:34.900
it was a mistake
00:20:35.500
for him
00:20:36.060
to send nearly
00:20:36.860
a hundred million dollars
00:20:37.800
to Iran
00:20:39.100
subsequently
00:20:40.740
when that money
00:20:41.560
was used to fund
00:20:42.560
the worst terror attack
00:20:43.820
on Israel
00:20:44.760
in over 50 years
00:20:45.680
no
00:20:46.000
they're not capable
00:20:47.040
of admitting that
00:20:47.880
and I do think
00:20:48.820
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00:20:50.660
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00:20:51.360
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00:23:56.400
about in school
00:23:57.040
she said she had been
00:23:58.100
learning about
00:23:58.760
Christopher Columbus
00:23:59.560
the quote unquote
00:24:00.880
real story
00:24:01.740
I asked what that meant
00:24:03.180
for the next few minutes
00:24:04.500
I heard about the crimes
00:24:05.920
of Christopher Columbus
00:24:06.920
in minute detail
00:24:08.940
every murdered Native American
00:24:10.620
transmitted disease
00:24:11.880
and stolen acre of land
00:24:13.280
seemed to be accounted for
00:24:14.520
I heard that Columbus
00:24:16.100
who claimed the land
00:24:17.120
for himself
00:24:17.700
because he
00:24:18.440
his straight white privilege
00:24:20.440
or something like that
00:24:21.660
had not actually discovered
00:24:23.180
anything at all
00:24:24.180
but rather had landed
00:24:25.580
on the shores
00:24:26.880
of what would
00:24:27.600
come to be known
00:24:29.000
as America
00:24:29.800
by accident
00:24:30.880
this quote unquote
00:24:32.280
revolution
00:24:32.960
familiar to most adults
00:24:34.780
in the United States
00:24:35.460
is something that
00:24:36.080
American children
00:24:36.860
encounter sooner or later
00:24:38.020
in a textbook
00:24:39.180
believing
00:24:39.740
that they've accessed
00:24:42.160
some secret hidden knowledge
00:24:44.340
that the grown-ups
00:24:45.260
don't want them to have
00:24:46.560
that moment for me
00:24:48.940
is the moment
00:24:49.600
that terrifies me
00:24:50.600
for our kids
00:24:51.340
and my kids generation
00:24:52.960
is that
00:24:53.440
we have
00:24:54.380
handed our children
00:24:55.720
over to the school systems
00:24:56.960
and it's not just
00:24:57.920
public schools now
00:24:58.960
it's private schools as well
00:25:00.360
who are indoctrinating them
00:25:02.120
and this idea
00:25:02.940
that America
00:25:03.620
somehow was started
00:25:04.960
on evil
00:25:07.280
bad motives
00:25:08.800
and that you should
00:25:09.700
not love this country
00:25:10.900
but you should be ashamed
00:25:12.400
of this country
00:25:13.100
and you had to deal
00:25:14.180
with this with your own daughter
00:25:15.100
look that's exactly right
00:25:17.020
and the problem is
00:25:17.920
this indoctrination
00:25:19.060
is happening
00:25:19.700
in every school in America
00:25:21.040
it's happening
00:25:21.620
to every child in America
00:25:22.900
and what I described
00:25:24.760
part of the way
00:25:25.380
this book is all about
00:25:26.500
how we fight back
00:25:27.320
but you know
00:25:27.820
as she was saying
00:25:28.680
that Columbus
00:25:29.820
was evil
00:25:30.940
and racist
00:25:31.700
and genocidal
00:25:32.580
and terrible
00:25:33.160
and she hated
00:25:33.820
Christopher Columbus
00:25:34.660
you know
00:25:35.840
I just sat down
00:25:36.940
in her bedroom
00:25:37.400
and I tried to have
00:25:37.900
a conversation with her
00:25:38.720
and I said
00:25:39.000
look
00:25:39.240
I'm not deeply vested
00:25:41.620
in making the argument
00:25:42.960
that Christopher Columbus
00:25:43.940
was some incredible hero
00:25:45.460
but I said
00:25:47.080
you know what
00:25:47.580
we do have a federal holiday
00:25:49.840
named after him
00:25:51.680
do we typically
00:25:53.500
name federal holidays
00:25:55.220
after evil
00:25:57.040
racist
00:25:57.480
genocidal
00:25:58.080
maniacs
00:25:59.580
like
00:25:59.900
might there be
00:26:01.880
another side
00:26:02.480
to the story
00:26:02.980
is there anything
00:26:03.820
admirable about him
00:26:05.160
and she was not
00:26:06.100
not really able
00:26:06.800
to see much
00:26:07.680
that was admirable
00:26:08.680
I said
00:26:08.980
well
00:26:09.120
what do you think
00:26:10.140
about getting
00:26:10.640
in three rickety
00:26:11.820
wooden ships
00:26:13.520
and leaving Europe
00:26:15.140
and heading
00:26:16.300
heading west
00:26:17.740
when you think
00:26:18.400
you're falling off
00:26:19.220
the edge of the world
00:26:20.200
to explore
00:26:22.100
and discover
00:26:23.000
I mean
00:26:23.320
is that spirit
00:26:24.580
that intrepid spirit
00:26:25.800
is that anything
00:26:26.920
to be admired
00:26:27.660
and I said
00:26:28.840
secondly
00:26:29.280
look it is true
00:26:31.000
that Columbus
00:26:32.700
and the men
00:26:34.100
who traveled with him
00:26:34.980
that they carried
00:26:36.920
some germs
00:26:38.220
that were
00:26:39.220
new
00:26:41.060
to the western hemisphere
00:26:43.460
that when they got here
00:26:44.440
some of the
00:26:44.880
Native Americans
00:26:46.280
died from those germs
00:26:47.480
now it's also true
00:26:48.940
it was the 15th century
00:26:49.860
they didn't know
00:26:50.300
what a germ was
00:26:51.100
so they didn't know
00:26:52.180
they were carrying it
00:26:53.040
and when you accuse him
00:26:54.780
of mass murder
00:26:55.640
does culpability matter
00:26:58.520
does the fact
00:26:59.160
that they didn't know
00:26:59.880
what a germ was
00:27:00.600
they had no idea
00:27:01.380
they were doing it
00:27:02.120
is that at all relevant
00:27:03.660
if you're going to call him
00:27:04.880
this evil terrible murder
00:27:06.120
and what I talk about
00:27:07.440
in the book
00:27:08.020
is not long thereafter
00:27:10.040
Thanksgiving of that year
00:27:11.560
we were talking about
00:27:12.260
Thanksgiving
00:27:12.660
and she and a friend
00:27:13.860
of hers from school
00:27:14.480
and this is when
00:27:14.900
they were in grade school
00:27:15.580
said likewise
00:27:17.120
oh Thanksgiving
00:27:17.780
is terrible
00:27:19.180
it's when the pilgrims
00:27:20.320
were oppressing
00:27:21.040
the Native Americans
00:27:22.480
and you know
00:27:24.300
again
00:27:24.600
I made the argument
00:27:25.880
I think even more vigorously
00:27:26.940
this time
00:27:27.480
and I said
00:27:28.240
listen
00:27:28.500
it is certainly right
00:27:31.140
that the settlers
00:27:31.820
that came to America
00:27:32.860
that they
00:27:33.540
settled America
00:27:35.020
and they ultimately
00:27:36.900
conquered America
00:27:38.280
and they
00:27:39.180
committed some terrible acts
00:27:41.720
to Native Americans
00:27:42.660
but if you look at
00:27:44.200
the history of humanity
00:27:45.300
in every continent
00:27:46.600
every nation
00:27:48.560
was acquired
00:27:50.600
by conquest
00:27:51.480
and every time
00:27:52.200
there's conquest
00:27:52.800
you have one group
00:27:53.760
of people
00:27:54.120
who are conquering
00:27:54.840
another group
00:27:55.340
of people
00:27:55.660
by the way
00:27:56.180
in the United States
00:27:58.320
before we were
00:27:59.240
the United States
00:28:00.080
the Native Americans
00:28:01.020
one tribe
00:28:01.640
conquered another
00:28:02.320
conquered another
00:28:02.960
conquered another
00:28:03.640
and you look at
00:28:04.220
Europe
00:28:04.440
you look at Asia
00:28:05.060
that's the history
00:28:05.900
of humanity
00:28:06.320
one group
00:28:06.800
of people
00:28:07.060
conquering another
00:28:07.720
and anytime
00:28:08.600
you have conquest
00:28:09.800
there are
00:28:11.940
horrible things
00:28:14.440
that happen
00:28:14.920
there are terrible
00:28:15.440
things that are done
00:28:16.200
but I said
00:28:16.660
look in any war
00:28:17.760
there were atrocities
00:28:19.500
on both sides
00:28:20.380
and you know
00:28:20.840
I asked
00:28:21.340
I asked my daughter
00:28:22.100
I said
00:28:22.480
you know
00:28:23.480
from whence
00:28:24.380
do you think
00:28:25.020
the verb
00:28:25.980
to scalp
00:28:27.020
was derived
00:28:28.580
the Native Americans
00:28:30.100
did some horrible
00:28:31.080
things
00:28:31.720
to the settlers
00:28:32.860
who came here also
00:28:33.780
and
00:28:35.060
the connection
00:28:36.880
that I made
00:28:37.960
for her
00:28:38.340
and that I make
00:28:38.800
in the book
00:28:39.280
is
00:28:40.620
those two discussions
00:28:42.480
are interlinked
00:28:43.400
and intertwined
00:28:44.080
which is
00:28:45.800
for all
00:28:46.680
of the teachers
00:28:47.460
and all
00:28:48.000
of the professors
00:28:48.620
and all
00:28:49.220
of the people
00:28:49.700
advocating
00:28:50.320
that Columbus
00:28:51.260
was evil
00:28:51.920
and advocating
00:28:52.620
that Thanksgiving
00:28:53.240
is evil
00:28:53.780
because the pilgrims
00:28:54.540
were stealing
00:28:55.000
from the
00:28:55.480
Native Americans
00:28:57.040
it comes down
00:28:58.380
to one antecedent
00:28:59.440
question
00:28:59.880
was the settlement
00:29:02.000
of the new world
00:29:03.320
a good thing
00:29:05.000
or a bad thing
00:29:06.020
was the formation
00:29:07.080
of the United States
00:29:08.200
of America
00:29:08.840
good or bad
00:29:10.560
and I'm not
00:29:12.120
neutral or ambivalent
00:29:13.260
on that question
00:29:13.940
I think
00:29:14.460
the United States
00:29:15.740
of America
00:29:16.240
has been the
00:29:16.720
greatest force
00:29:17.540
for good
00:29:18.120
of any nation
00:29:19.020
in the history
00:29:19.700
of the world
00:29:20.380
that we have
00:29:21.380
produced more
00:29:22.000
prosperity
00:29:22.700
more abundance
00:29:23.600
we have liberated
00:29:24.640
more prisoners
00:29:25.880
and captives
00:29:26.720
we have shed
00:29:27.880
our blood
00:29:28.600
and treasure
00:29:29.400
and tears
00:29:30.320
fighting tyranny
00:29:31.960
more than any nation
00:29:33.180
in the history
00:29:33.980
of the world
00:29:34.480
do we have our flaws
00:29:35.680
yes of course
00:29:36.520
do we have our problems
00:29:37.500
yes of course
00:29:38.360
but America
00:29:40.040
I believe
00:29:41.000
like Reagan said
00:29:41.800
is a shining city
00:29:42.580
on a hill
00:29:42.900
and I want to make
00:29:43.660
a special
00:29:44.180
request of our
00:29:45.700
verdict listeners
00:29:46.240
you guys are
00:29:46.800
incredible
00:29:47.220
you guys
00:29:48.360
are patriots
00:29:49.960
you guys give me
00:29:50.800
hope and optimism
00:29:51.800
in America
00:29:52.300
I want to ask
00:29:53.440
every one of you
00:29:54.180
please
00:29:54.700
today
00:29:56.620
when you finish
00:29:58.460
listening to this
00:29:59.140
podcast
00:29:59.500
most of you are
00:30:00.260
listening on your
00:30:00.940
cell phones
00:30:01.440
click over to
00:30:03.620
Amazon
00:30:04.040
type in
00:30:05.840
Unwoke
00:30:06.720
and buy the book
00:30:08.520
right now
00:30:08.980
we have nearly
00:30:10.700
a million
00:30:11.480
unique listeners
00:30:12.960
who listen to
00:30:13.700
Verdict
00:30:14.040
if every one
00:30:15.800
of you
00:30:16.220
goes online
00:30:17.360
and buys the book
00:30:18.300
it would soar
00:30:20.380
to the very top
00:30:21.300
of the New York
00:30:22.000
Times bestseller
00:30:22.760
list
00:30:23.180
that would drive
00:30:24.500
them nuts
00:30:25.400
by the way
00:30:26.000
and I wrote
00:30:28.460
this book
00:30:29.040
for the same
00:30:30.820
reason Ben
00:30:31.740
that you and I
00:30:32.280
do this podcast
00:30:32.920
it is right now
00:30:33.980
11.03pm
00:30:35.240
on Tuesday night
00:30:35.980
the podcast
00:30:36.480
will come out
00:30:36.980
early Wednesday
00:30:37.640
morning
00:30:37.980
why am I
00:30:39.000
sitting here
00:30:39.420
at 11.03pm
00:30:40.100
why are you
00:30:40.660
sitting here
00:30:41.100
at 11.03pm
00:30:41.760
because we care
00:30:42.860
about this
00:30:43.340
we want
00:30:44.060
we want
00:30:45.220
our incredible
00:30:46.360
listeners to be
00:30:47.360
armed with
00:30:47.960
information
00:30:48.580
and know
00:30:49.220
how to fight
00:30:49.800
to save
00:30:50.340
this country
00:30:50.940
and this book
00:30:52.300
is exactly
00:30:53.240
in the same
00:30:53.840
spirit
00:30:54.220
the book
00:30:55.160
is I think
00:30:56.200
interesting
00:30:56.820
and fun
00:30:57.440
it's not
00:30:57.880
some abstract
00:30:59.500
academic
00:31:00.140
treatise
00:31:00.740
but it's
00:31:01.800
designed
00:31:02.320
when you read
00:31:02.940
it
00:31:03.060
you'll enjoy
00:31:03.740
it
00:31:04.000
and by the way
00:31:04.940
I'd encourage
00:31:05.400
you
00:31:05.760
look
00:31:06.440
if I can
00:31:07.140
be
00:31:07.480
immodest
00:31:08.060
for a second
00:31:08.560
don't buy
00:31:08.940
just one
00:31:09.420
you know
00:31:10.340
Christmas
00:31:10.660
is coming
00:31:11.120
up very
00:31:11.640
soon
00:31:12.020
buy a copy
00:31:13.540
for your
00:31:13.860
mom
00:31:14.140
buy a copy
00:31:14.700
for your
00:31:15.000
brother
00:31:15.280
buy a copy
00:31:15.840
for your
00:31:16.140
next door
00:31:16.500
neighbor
00:31:16.760
your best
00:31:17.240
friend
00:31:17.620
because
00:31:18.560
the reason
00:31:19.760
that I
00:31:20.280
spend the
00:31:20.960
time to
00:31:21.520
write these
00:31:21.960
books
00:31:22.240
the reason
00:31:22.720
that you
00:31:23.240
and I
00:31:23.480
do this
00:31:23.780
podcast
00:31:24.180
is we
00:31:25.800
either
00:31:26.380
persuade
00:31:27.240
and win
00:31:28.160
hearts
00:31:28.660
and minds
00:31:29.380
or we
00:31:30.560
lose
00:31:30.860
America
00:31:31.240
that's what
00:31:31.940
the stakes
00:31:32.400
are and
00:31:32.760
that's what
00:31:33.080
this book
00:31:33.440
is about
00:31:33.780
it's the
00:31:34.120
exact same
00:31:34.780
thing the
00:31:35.140
podcast
00:31:35.460
is about
00:31:36.040
you mentioned
00:31:37.300
that what
00:31:38.060
we're up
00:31:38.400
against
00:31:38.740
and one
00:31:39.360
of your
00:31:39.620
chapters
00:31:40.200
is about
00:31:41.000
the newsroom
00:31:41.920
revolution
00:31:43.040
and you
00:31:43.600
start with
00:31:44.220
a great
00:31:44.720
story
00:31:45.380
of a
00:31:46.860
former
00:31:47.100
colleague
00:31:47.580
of mine
00:31:48.000
that is
00:31:48.340
hard to deal
00:31:48.860
with
00:31:49.120
Jake
00:31:49.400
Tapper
00:31:49.880
and a
00:31:51.380
fight
00:31:52.100
and a
00:31:53.180
liar
00:31:55.020
and this
00:31:55.760
is the
00:31:56.120
new thing
00:31:56.680
that the
00:31:57.000
media has
00:31:57.620
done
00:31:57.860
they become
00:31:58.300
so
00:31:58.600
sanctimonious
00:31:59.440
that they
00:32:00.360
are always
00:32:01.260
looking for
00:32:02.000
a moment
00:32:02.320
to tell
00:32:02.800
you why
00:32:03.600
you're
00:32:04.000
wrong
00:32:04.440
and why
00:32:05.100
they're
00:32:05.540
brilliant
00:32:06.120
we've seen
00:32:06.860
this in
00:32:08.000
the last
00:32:08.400
several days
00:32:09.200
as they've
00:32:09.680
been demanding
00:32:10.420
a ceasefire
00:32:11.380
to protect
00:32:12.600
the terrorists
00:32:13.340
in Gaza
00:32:14.020
who the
00:32:15.280
Israelis are
00:32:16.380
trying to
00:32:17.120
eradicate
00:32:17.980
from the face
00:32:18.660
of this earth
00:32:19.200
with good
00:32:19.720
reason after
00:32:20.460
what they did
00:32:21.120
just one
00:32:21.620
month ago
00:32:22.100
and we
00:32:22.400
talked about
00:32:23.000
this on
00:32:23.420
Verdict
00:32:23.780
Israel we
00:32:25.180
knew was
00:32:25.680
on an
00:32:26.600
artificial clock
00:32:27.720
the day
00:32:28.140
the terrorist
00:32:28.640
attack happened
00:32:29.320
before the
00:32:30.020
media
00:32:30.360
before the
00:32:31.400
left
00:32:31.820
started going
00:32:32.980
to the aid
00:32:33.840
of Hamas
00:32:34.820
and the
00:32:36.240
Palestinian people
00:32:37.100
that were
00:32:37.460
backing Hamas
00:32:38.380
many of them
00:32:38.780
that were
00:32:39.280
and saying
00:32:40.220
okay alright
00:32:40.800
you had a few
00:32:41.360
days now
00:32:41.860
to go after
00:32:42.360
these terrorists
00:32:42.720
now you gotta
00:32:43.160
stop it
00:32:43.860
now it's
00:32:44.860
your obligation
00:32:45.940
to stop
00:32:47.080
trying to
00:32:47.480
protect yourself
00:32:48.260
and this
00:32:49.480
is our
00:32:49.880
media now
00:32:50.580
and it
00:32:51.200
goes back
00:32:51.900
to this
00:32:52.380
idea that
00:32:53.260
they have
00:32:53.660
which is
00:32:54.040
they're better
00:32:54.560
than everyone
00:32:55.080
else
00:32:55.440
they're not
00:32:56.200
here to
00:32:56.480
report news
00:32:57.160
anymore
00:32:57.440
they're here
00:32:57.900
to go after
00:32:58.720
people like
00:32:59.420
you and
00:33:00.280
others that
00:33:00.840
they don't
00:33:01.380
like and
00:33:01.820
indoctrinate a
00:33:02.680
nation to
00:33:03.460
believe in
00:33:04.120
socialism and
00:33:04.920
communism and
00:33:05.600
Marxism
00:33:06.160
look that
00:33:07.420
that is
00:33:07.900
exactly right
00:33:08.760
and the
00:33:09.460
media has
00:33:10.060
fundamentally
00:33:10.500
changed
00:33:11.080
and so the
00:33:11.600
chapter on
00:33:12.280
journalism
00:33:12.920
I talk about
00:33:14.720
how when I
00:33:15.280
was first elected
00:33:15.960
to the Senate
00:33:16.420
11 years ago
00:33:17.140
and I
00:33:17.320
actually focus
00:33:17.920
on CNN
00:33:18.480
as really
00:33:19.060
a case
00:33:19.940
lesson
00:33:20.320
11 years
00:33:21.960
ago CNN
00:33:22.640
they aspired
00:33:24.860
to be
00:33:25.260
journalists
00:33:25.740
if you ask
00:33:26.380
them they'd
00:33:26.780
say we want
00:33:27.340
to be
00:33:27.520
journalists
00:33:27.880
we want
00:33:28.220
to present
00:33:28.540
both sides
00:33:29.140
we want
00:33:29.460
to be fair
00:33:29.920
and objective
00:33:30.460
and balanced
00:33:31.180
and and we
00:33:32.560
want to focus
00:33:33.280
on facts
00:33:33.940
and not our
00:33:34.400
opinion
00:33:34.740
now they
00:33:35.820
were terrible
00:33:36.400
at it
00:33:36.800
they leaned
00:33:37.460
hard left
00:33:38.180
and they
00:33:38.460
couldn't help
00:33:39.120
themselves
00:33:39.540
but that was
00:33:40.880
the objective
00:33:41.640
number one
00:33:42.220
they would
00:33:42.560
articulate to you
00:33:43.620
they were trying
00:33:44.200
to achieve
00:33:44.720
but number two
00:33:45.400
I think they
00:33:45.800
believed in their
00:33:46.460
heart they were
00:33:47.020
trying to do
00:33:47.540
that and so
00:33:48.720
when I was
00:33:49.220
first elected
00:33:49.820
to the Senate
00:33:50.320
you may find
00:33:50.880
this hard to
00:33:51.340
believe but I
00:33:52.760
went on CNN
00:33:53.460
just about every
00:33:54.420
week I went
00:33:55.080
on there over
00:33:55.760
and over and
00:33:56.380
over again and
00:33:56.960
they would give
00:33:57.460
you a chance
00:33:58.160
to lay out a
00:33:59.580
conservative
00:34:00.000
argument and
00:34:00.560
they'd attack
00:34:01.040
you from the
00:34:01.480
left and
00:34:01.820
they'd be
00:34:02.100
unfair and
00:34:02.580
they'd play
00:34:02.860
gotcha
00:34:03.180
questions but
00:34:03.900
but they
00:34:04.920
would give
00:34:05.440
you a chance
00:34:06.300
to present
00:34:06.760
the other
00:34:07.160
side and
00:34:08.500
what happened
00:34:09.280
is when
00:34:10.940
Donald Trump
00:34:11.700
became president
00:34:12.500
I think it
00:34:13.040
fundamentally
00:34:13.860
broke the
00:34:15.140
media their
00:34:15.660
brains shattered
00:34:17.200
they hated
00:34:17.860
him so much
00:34:18.780
that today
00:34:20.080
the media
00:34:20.680
no longer
00:34:21.520
views its
00:34:22.240
vision as
00:34:24.080
being journalists
00:34:24.860
as being fair
00:34:25.620
and impartial
00:34:26.380
and presenting
00:34:27.240
both sides
00:34:27.980
instead they
00:34:29.440
have embraced
00:34:30.400
a vision that
00:34:31.360
they are
00:34:31.720
advocates
00:34:32.460
they are
00:34:33.080
defenders of
00:34:34.160
democracy
00:34:34.740
and what they
00:34:35.140
mean by
00:34:35.460
democracy is
00:34:36.440
left wing
00:34:37.640
radical policies
00:34:38.700
and so the
00:34:42.520
story I tell
00:34:43.300
in the very
00:34:44.900
beginning of
00:34:45.540
the journalism
00:34:46.140
chapter is
00:34:47.800
during the
00:34:48.300
presidential race
00:34:49.200
I was out on
00:34:51.220
the campaign
00:34:51.680
trial I was
00:34:52.020
actually in our
00:34:52.600
campaign bus
00:34:53.380
and I was
00:34:54.240
doing an
00:34:54.600
interview with
00:34:55.120
Jake Tapper
00:34:55.700
and look I'll
00:34:56.680
confess I like
00:34:57.400
Jake I've
00:34:57.880
known Jake
00:34:58.460
for over 20
00:34:59.460
years I've
00:35:00.020
known Jake
00:35:00.540
since he was
00:35:01.400
a cub
00:35:01.940
reporter on
00:35:03.980
the George
00:35:04.600
W. Bush 2000
00:35:05.520
campaign and I
00:35:06.340
was a baby
00:35:07.020
staffer on it
00:35:07.740
and so I've
00:35:08.220
known him a
00:35:08.580
long time
00:35:09.040
and he was
00:35:10.280
interviewing me
00:35:10.960
for his Sunday
00:35:11.460
show and and
00:35:12.820
we were we did
00:35:13.540
an interview and
00:35:14.180
it was I don't
00:35:15.740
remember probably
00:35:16.140
10 minutes or
00:35:16.740
so and I had
00:35:18.380
learned a lesson
00:35:19.040
it's something that
00:35:19.720
I do with every
00:35:20.480
Sunday show which
00:35:22.080
is that I insist
00:35:23.180
that the Sunday
00:35:23.860
show either be
00:35:24.740
live or it be
00:35:26.520
live to tape and
00:35:27.520
the reason I
00:35:28.060
learned that is I
00:35:28.880
had done just a
00:35:29.820
few weeks earlier
00:35:30.480
an interview with
00:35:31.140
Bob Schieffer at
00:35:32.000
CBS and Bob
00:35:33.020
Schieffer I hadn't
00:35:34.880
insisted on that and
00:35:35.980
he'd done the
00:35:36.580
interview and then
00:35:37.400
afterwards his
00:35:38.320
show had edited
00:35:39.980
it and basically
00:35:40.960
cut out every good
00:35:42.080
argument I made and
00:35:43.120
just just put this
00:35:44.200
this slash job where
00:35:46.480
he decimated me
00:35:47.860
because he excluded
00:35:48.680
all my good answers
00:35:49.580
and and just just
00:35:50.760
edited it in a way
00:35:51.700
that was really
00:35:52.300
deceptive and I
00:35:53.620
said okay never
00:35:54.260
again if we do
00:35:55.880
one of these they
00:35:57.120
must air what I
00:35:58.140
actually say and I
00:35:59.320
said look if you
00:35:59.960
want to give me five
00:36:01.380
minutes or six or
00:36:02.180
eight or ten or
00:36:02.760
twelve or whatever
00:36:03.380
you can pick the
00:36:03.940
time but when we
00:36:05.500
film it you air
00:36:06.340
exactly what happens
00:36:07.500
during that time so
00:36:08.300
we had agreed with
00:36:09.080
that with CNN and
00:36:11.000
in the course of the
00:36:11.800
interview we were
00:36:13.320
talking about the
00:36:14.360
shooting at Fort
00:36:15.060
Hood and Nadal
00:36:16.100
Hassan who was who
00:36:17.260
was the the radical
00:36:18.300
Islamist who had
00:36:19.180
walked through and
00:36:20.600
and murdered 14
00:36:21.940
innocent souls yelling
00:36:23.480
Aluha Akbar and I
00:36:25.620
mentioned that the
00:36:26.720
Obama administration
00:36:27.680
knew that Hassan was
00:36:30.520
a radical jihadist they
00:36:32.240
knew that he had been
00:36:33.560
in in email
00:36:34.280
communication with
00:36:35.280
Anwar al-Awlaki who
00:36:36.560
was the the Islamist
00:36:38.160
cleric the radical that
00:36:39.780
he'd asked al-Awlaki
00:36:40.960
about the permissibility
00:36:42.380
of waging jihad on his
00:36:45.280
fellow soldiers and
00:36:47.380
yet the Obama
00:36:48.140
administration did
00:36:49.040
nothing until he
00:36:49.840
committed that act of
00:36:50.740
mass murder and when
00:36:52.280
I said all of that Jake
00:36:53.600
immediately interrupted
00:36:54.540
and they said that's not
00:36:55.340
true no that's not
00:36:56.860
that's not right and he
00:36:57.680
said what you're saying
00:36:58.480
is fundamentally false
00:36:59.660
that's a lie it's not
00:37:00.940
true and and you know I
00:37:03.080
just kind of smiled and
00:37:04.120
I said well you know
00:37:04.860
Jake as as John Adams
00:37:06.320
said facts are stubborn
00:37:08.200
things and what I'm
00:37:09.080
saying is entirely
00:37:09.880
accurate and and and
00:37:11.280
you know when when you
00:37:12.320
research the issue that's
00:37:13.240
exactly what you're going
00:37:13.900
to find out so we do the
00:37:14.740
interview Jake and his
00:37:17.040
production team leaves the
00:37:18.260
bus and and I don't
00:37:19.480
know five ten minutes
00:37:20.160
later there's a knock on
00:37:22.120
the door of the bus and
00:37:22.840
we open it it's Jake and
00:37:23.980
he's very sheepish and he
00:37:25.120
says hey can you come in
00:37:25.860
and talk for a second I
00:37:26.640
said yeah sure come on in
00:37:27.440
and he said look after we
00:37:29.680
did the interview he said
00:37:31.060
I went and got on the
00:37:31.960
internet and I researched
00:37:33.140
it and and actually you
00:37:35.260
were right he said I
00:37:36.260
didn't know that I had
00:37:37.180
missed I just had not
00:37:38.380
seen the the revelation
00:37:41.100
that the Obama
00:37:41.780
administration knew it
00:37:42.780
it just I couldn't
00:37:43.620
believe it and and but
00:37:44.800
turns out you were right
00:37:45.720
I was wrong and and and
00:37:46.880
Jake said listen I'll give
00:37:48.780
you a choice we can do it
00:37:49.720
one of two ways he said I
00:37:51.760
agreed we would do this
00:37:52.720
live to tape and so if if
00:37:54.980
you want I will air it
00:37:56.140
exactly as it happened and
00:37:58.860
then after I air it I will
00:38:00.380
I will come on on live and
00:38:02.600
I'll say after the
00:38:04.120
interview I researched it
00:38:05.660
and it turns out I was
00:38:07.840
wrong and Cruz was right
00:38:09.440
what he said was exactly
00:38:10.680
right and I was in error
00:38:11.800
when I said he was not
00:38:12.760
telling the truth he said
00:38:14.460
that's option number one
00:38:15.480
he said option number two
00:38:17.820
which he said I'd really
00:38:18.820
much prefer it is that we
00:38:21.660
just edit out that segment
00:38:22.900
we just remove it from from
00:38:24.380
the interview and we air
00:38:25.320
everything else and just not
00:38:26.440
include that segment and and
00:38:28.920
I described in the book
00:38:29.820
that you know I thought
00:38:30.720
about it it was obviously
00:38:32.100
in my self-interest to pick
00:38:33.740
option number one that that
00:38:35.500
like having CNN having
00:38:37.360
Tapper admit he was full of
00:38:39.080
crap and I was right that
00:38:40.140
was a big political victory
00:38:41.840
but I also expected that I
00:38:46.540
would be doing a whole lot
00:38:47.760
more interviews with Tapper
00:38:49.880
and with CNN and I frankly
00:38:52.040
respected how he approached
00:38:53.260
it that he came to me and he
00:38:54.520
admitted he was wrong and he
00:38:55.640
gave me that option I thought
00:38:56.740
was an honorable way to
00:38:57.780
handle it and so I made what
00:39:00.140
I would say is a long-term
00:39:01.360
play rather than a short-term
00:39:02.600
play and I said okay you can
00:39:03.800
go ahead and cut the segment
00:39:04.760
out and so they did so the
00:39:06.000
set the story I recount in
00:39:07.840
the book that segment never
00:39:09.960
aired because CNN cut the
00:39:11.400
segment out I focus on Tapper
00:39:14.880
in particular because I think
00:39:16.260
he's a smart guy and I think
00:39:18.360
he wants to be a journalist and
00:39:19.940
I think in his heart right now
00:39:21.420
he knows that he's not that
00:39:23.780
Trump broke Tapper that now
00:39:25.780
CNN will have a panel of five
00:39:27.680
experts there to discuss
00:39:29.760
true or not Donald Trump is
00:39:32.500
the devil and all five of them
00:39:34.420
agree of course he's the devil
00:39:35.740
no he's worse than the devil
00:39:36.760
that's the whole debate and you
00:39:38.960
know look CNN used to be a place
00:39:41.080
if you go back to 2017 in 2017 I
00:39:45.340
did three town hall debates on
00:39:47.820
CNN with Bernie Sanders we did
00:39:50.720
one on health care and two on tax
00:39:52.700
policy and and and they were
00:39:54.420
great debates I think they were
00:39:55.960
among if not the highest rated
00:39:57.340
shows on CNN that whole year they
00:39:58.960
were 90 minutes Bernie is an
00:40:01.160
unapologetic defender of
00:40:02.900
socialism I'm an unapologetic
00:40:04.640
defender of capitalism and we had a
00:40:06.980
real and substantive debate that
00:40:09.900
CNN doesn't exist anymore and it's
00:40:12.760
bad for America it's bad for the
00:40:14.960
world that we don't have
00:40:16.620
functioning journalism and I
00:40:18.060
describe all of this in the book
00:40:19.360
but I also describe how because
00:40:22.320
journalism corporate media is
00:40:23.880
broken it's part of what makes the
00:40:26.580
radical Democrats so extreme why
00:40:28.500
they vote for such ridiculous
00:40:30.500
policy positions that are so out of
00:40:32.840
the mainstream because they know
00:40:34.940
they will never ever ever get asked
00:40:36.740
about it by reporters back home they
00:40:38.860
will never have to defend it and so
00:40:40.480
it's radicalized the Democrat party
00:40:42.940
in Washington senator there's another
00:40:45.060
part of your book that I want to
00:40:46.780
mention real quick and it's a trend
00:40:48.940
whether it's you talking about big
00:40:51.120
tech or the schools or Marxism in
00:40:55.760
Washington the list goes on and on
00:40:58.380
especially you have a lot to talk in
00:41:00.220
here about science and COVID that
00:41:02.900
chapter is probably my favorite as I
00:41:05.220
was reading it today I was marking it
00:41:08.240
up but there's a trend in this book and
00:41:10.920
I love this this may be my favorite
00:41:12.520
part is you at each in each chapter in
00:41:16.040
essence ask how do you fight back
00:41:18.280
how to reclaim control how do we win
00:41:22.320
it's not just a book of you ranting
00:41:24.320
about issues but you actually lay out
00:41:27.020
how we can succeed and get our and win
00:41:30.960
on our side of the argument and that's
00:41:32.980
what empowers the reader to not just
00:41:35.900
read a book but to take something from
00:41:37.860
it and I love that well it is critically
00:41:41.600
important and there are all sorts of
00:41:43.040
elements of how we fight back and win
00:41:44.860
one of it is is transparency and
00:41:47.300
sunshine the views of the radical left
00:41:49.780
are wildly unpopular look no rational
00:41:53.680
person supports abolishing the police
00:41:56.340
that's a nutty position no rational
00:41:59.120
person supports open borders in the
00:42:01.460
chaos at our southern border no rational
00:42:03.860
person supports medically and surgically
00:42:06.820
sterilizing and castrating eight-year-old
00:42:09.420
children no rational person is is
00:42:12.460
befuddled by the question what is a
00:42:15.060
woman all of those are 90 10 issues and
00:42:19.340
the radical left is on the the the
00:42:22.540
extreme minority position on every one of
00:42:25.280
them it's why they rely on force rather
00:42:28.640
than persuasion because their positions
00:42:31.140
are out there and and so often shining a
00:42:34.040
light is really really potent and I'm
00:42:37.180
going to give an example I'm going to
00:42:38.220
give an example from verdict so we had a
00:42:43.340
podcast several weeks ago that was
00:42:46.540
entitled Black Lives Matter is Hamas and
00:42:51.480
we walk through how Black Lives Matter as a
00:42:53.820
statement is is a truism it's absolutely
00:42:56.280
true yes period the end however Black Lives
00:43:00.060
Matter the organization Black Lives Matter
00:43:02.160
Inc is a very different thing it is found
00:43:05.200
founded by avowed Marxists who are trained
00:43:09.520
Marxists they're trained in fomenting
00:43:11.480
communist revolutions that's their own
00:43:13.580
self-description not our language their
00:43:15.640
language they are vicious racists and they
00:43:19.940
are deeply deeply anti-semitic they hate
00:43:23.440
Israel indeed one of the co-founders of
00:43:25.820
Black Lives Matter has called since 1995 for
00:43:28.720
the destruction of the state of Israel and
00:43:30.440
and on our podcast we laid out all of that
00:43:33.480
evidence and then we then we named names
00:43:35.960
of all of the or a number of the giant
00:43:38.200
corporations who had given millions of
00:43:40.100
dollars to Black Lives Matter and that
00:43:41.560
included Amazon and Apple and Coca-Cola and
00:43:44.800
and we said listen to these companies do you
00:43:47.540
support vicious racism do you support
00:43:51.940
vicious anti-semitism do you support
00:43:54.120
demanding the the destruction of the state
00:43:57.240
of Israel do you support the these avowed
00:43:59.480
Marxist because you gave money to them that
00:44:02.560
podcast came out I believe October 18th the
00:44:07.400
next day Coca-Cola went online and they
00:44:13.260
scrubbed their website to remove every
00:44:16.540
reference to the five hundred thousand
00:44:18.400
dollars that they had given to Black Lives
00:44:20.380
Matter and it was a direct result of this
00:44:22.620
verdict podcast we put the podcast out and
00:44:26.040
almost immediately they erased it now they
00:44:28.280
thought they could do it quietly they
00:44:29.820
could just hide and evade responsibility
00:44:31.800
I'm calling them out I'm calling them
00:44:33.580
out and I'm shining a light and I'm
00:44:35.240
saying look have you apologized to the
00:44:36.920
American people for why you were funding
00:44:38.680
a viciously racist and anti-semitic
00:44:41.020
organization and it wasn't a secret they
00:44:43.000
were open about it then you just didn't
00:44:45.740
care because your woke politics mattered
00:44:47.660
more to you than doing the right thing and
00:44:50.160
that's one of the strategies that is
00:44:52.340
inherent in this book is shining the light
00:44:55.000
and calling them out and that's how you
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win victories and chapter after chapter I
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talk about winning victories whether it's
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winning school board seats back or flipping
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Virginia red as parents got furious or
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whether it's Elon Musk buying Twitter all of
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these are strategies where we take these
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institutions back it's an incredible book
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center and congratulations on it it's one
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it is 356 pages from beginning to end
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one of the chapters that that you've got
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to read if you get it make sure you read
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the big tech chapter and also science the
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science chapter to me was one that that as
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I was reading it center I could I know you
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well enough to know when you really get
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passionate about something you were really
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really passionate when writing that chapter
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on science and what has happened and how
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science and it has just been totally
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corrupted whether it's by Fauci or others
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that are pushing agendas through science
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and those are two chapters I just want to
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mark for people make sure you take a look at
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those as well grab the book unwoke how to
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