Verdict with Ted Cruz - Perfect Black Friday Christmas Gift-The Bestseller Book Unwoke： How to Defeat Cultural Marxism In America

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00:00:05.520 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:09.980 And Senator, let's just start with congratulations.

00:00:13.220 It's official. Your new book is out, Unwoke, How to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America.

00:00:19.820 And I have to say, when you get the book, if you haven't gotten the book,

00:00:23.120 the best page, just skip right ahead to page number 40.

00:00:28.920 It's the best page in the book, so congrats on that.

00:00:32.380 Most importantly, Senator, page 40, phenomenal.

00:00:35.560 You should definitely just go right there, read that, and then start at the very beginning.

00:00:39.120 Ben, what the hell is on page 40? I don't know what's on page 40.

00:00:42.620 Page 40, it says, and I will quote here,

00:00:45.700 Every podcast is done alongside my co-host today.

00:00:48.720 That's Ben Ferguson, the nationally syndicated radio host has become a very dear friend.

00:00:53.060 I got a shout out. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that.

00:00:55.820 So I actually think maybe the best page in the book is the very first page of the book of your copy.

00:01:03.500 Because I gave you a copy. I gave you a signed copy.

00:01:06.420 You did.

00:01:07.520 And if you recall, the inscription that I wrote on the front,

00:01:12.600 I said, Ben,

00:01:13.820 You are one of the three best hosts in history of the Verdict podcast.

00:01:22.420 Don't leave out the word, undoubtedly.

00:01:24.080 You used that word.

00:01:25.500 Undoubtedly.

00:01:26.140 There we go.

00:01:26.840 I want to make sure that I get that in the history books.

00:01:28.940 Now, never mind that there have only been three hosts of Verdict,

00:01:32.020 and that would be you, me, and Michael Knowles,

00:01:33.600 but you are undoubtedly one of the three best.

00:01:36.560 Yes, and that's on the shelf right now.

00:01:39.880 And the second sentence I actually liked even better than the first,

00:01:43.920 and I said of all of the men to play college tennis,

00:01:49.280 you're one of them.

00:01:50.040 There we go.

00:01:50.900 You are one of them.

00:01:51.880 So this is the best part.

00:01:53.860 When you signed this, I didn't want to travel with it,

00:01:56.620 and you and I have been on the road.

00:01:57.680 We were on the road last week,

00:01:58.960 and I didn't want to travel with the book,

00:02:00.680 because I was like,

00:02:01.380 all right, this is what I want to genuinely say forever.

00:02:03.700 So I got home from the trip,

00:02:06.660 and I didn't want to knock the book around.

00:02:08.680 So I was reading all day yesterday and all day today

00:02:12.080 to make sure that we could have a stellar interview

00:02:16.300 on your own show about your book.

00:02:18.440 So let's start with the title.

00:02:22.020 Why did you pick the title Unwoke?

00:02:24.560 And also, for people that don't understand

00:02:27.040 what the definition of cultural Marxism is,

00:02:30.600 what does that mean?

00:02:31.860 Look, I wrote this book because the world has gone insane,

00:02:36.480 and my reaction is the same as millions of people

00:02:39.780 as the listeners of this podcast.

00:02:41.520 Our reaction is, what the hell happened?

00:02:43.640 How did things get so crazy so fast?

00:02:47.100 This book is my best effort to explain it,

00:02:49.840 and in particular, it's explaining

00:02:51.420 how the radical left has seized

00:02:54.540 every major institution in America.

00:02:58.200 And so the book starts, chapter one,

00:03:01.860 is the universities.

00:03:02.900 And I call the universities

00:03:04.700 the Wuhan lab of the woke virus. 0.83

00:03:08.720 The universities are where the virus was created.

00:03:12.060 It's where it mutated, and it's where it spread.

00:03:15.560 Each chapter of the book focuses on a different institution

00:03:19.940 the radical left has seized.

00:03:21.400 So, chapter two focuses on K-12 education 0.97

00:03:26.260 and all the radical garbage being put on our kids, 0.99

00:03:28.840 whether it's critical race theory or radical transgenderism. 0.99

00:03:33.060 Chapter three focuses on journalism

00:03:35.380 and how journalism has changed from covering the news to propaganda.

00:03:41.220 From there I go to big business

00:03:44.060 and how big business today, the Fortune 100,

00:03:47.480 are the economic enforcers of the radical left.

00:03:50.280 From there I go to big tech

00:03:51.560 and how big tech is pervasively censoring speech.

00:03:57.620 From there I go to entertainment.

00:03:59.520 And by the way, if I could have just one back,

00:04:02.140 I would have entertainment back.

00:04:03.900 Entertainment, I think, is the most consequential of all of these.

00:04:07.840 And in entertainment we talk about Hollywood and movies

00:04:10.480 and television and sports and music.

00:04:12.340 We break it all down.

00:04:13.820 From there we go to science.

00:04:16.620 And I talk about how science has been corrupted and politicized.

00:04:19.940 And the final chapter in the book is on China

00:04:22.880 and explains how China is a nexus that links them all.

00:04:28.120 And the book was really designed to do two things.

00:04:30.080 Number one, explain how and why, specifically,

00:04:34.240 the radical left took over every one of those institutions.

00:04:37.600 And they did it from the inside.

00:04:39.740 But secondly, to lay out a clear battle plan

00:04:44.280 how we take them back, how we fight back.

00:04:48.080 I believe we will take this country back.

00:04:50.660 And this book is laying out how we recapture

00:04:53.600 the institutions of America.

00:04:55.640 You know, in this book, and I encourage people to get it

00:04:59.020 because there is just incredible history

00:05:02.240 in the very beginning as well about your family.

00:05:06.100 I know your father and have gotten to spend some time with him.

00:05:10.500 He's an awesome, just individual to be around.

00:05:14.000 He's jovial.

00:05:14.900 He can be funny.

00:05:16.380 He loves this country.

00:05:18.300 But there is some incredible history,

00:05:22.160 not only about your family,

00:05:24.580 but also how your father was involved in Cuba

00:05:28.660 in the students at a young age

00:05:32.780 and what was happening really with the revolution down there

00:05:36.260 and how he was, I guess you could say,

00:05:40.560 brought in to this revolution with Castro

00:05:43.700 not realizing what Castro was doing.

00:05:46.840 And it started at a young age

00:05:48.420 where they were targeting children.

00:05:50.280 And it was an incredible part of the story,

00:05:53.120 not just because of what happened,

00:05:55.920 but also how he was beaten

00:05:57.940 and how his life was threatened

00:05:59.900 and how he was a marked man who had to get out

00:06:02.220 and come to America.

00:06:04.280 Talk a little bit about that story

00:06:06.160 of that being your history of your family.

00:06:09.740 And also it's a warning

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00:08:00.340 Senator, talk about this family history.

00:08:03.340 It's the beginning of the book,

00:08:04.500 and it takes your breath away

00:08:06.740 when you realize

00:08:07.600 how close your father was

00:08:09.440 to death in Cuba.

00:08:12.340 Well, my family story

00:08:13.780 is a huge part

00:08:14.780 of why this matters so much to me.

00:08:16.360 It's personal and it's real.

00:08:17.700 And what I want to do

00:08:18.440 is just read you

00:08:19.060 the first page of the book.

00:08:21.520 His white linen suit

00:08:23.000 was stained red with blood,

00:08:25.880 blood that had been beaten out of him

00:08:27.520 with a club,

00:08:28.760 regularly,

00:08:29.660 each hour,

00:08:31.140 breaking his nose,

00:08:33.060 shattering his teeth,

00:08:34.500 scarlet red blood,

00:08:36.760 as if his suit were emblazoned

00:08:38.920 with the color

00:08:39.600 of the Marxist revolution

00:08:40.940 of which he was a part.

00:08:43.500 As my father lay

00:08:44.780 on that prison floor,

00:08:46.220 crumpled and broken,

00:08:47.920 not a spot of white

00:08:49.020 was visible

00:08:49.700 on the now torn

00:08:51.500 and tattered suit

00:08:52.480 he had been given

00:08:53.320 for his 17th birthday.

00:08:55.660 Instead,

00:08:57.040 mud and dirt

00:08:58.600 and grime

00:08:59.960 and blood.

00:09:01.620 To this day,

00:09:02.620 my dad remembers

00:09:03.820 what he was thinking

00:09:04.540 in that dark hole.

00:09:06.620 Nobody depends on me.

00:09:08.500 I have no wife,

00:09:09.900 no children.

00:09:11.240 It doesn't matter

00:09:12.380 if I live or I die.

00:09:14.420 Three years earlier,

00:09:15.600 when he was just 14,

00:09:17.260 my father had made

00:09:18.620 the fateful decision

00:09:19.720 to join up

00:09:20.400 with the revolution

00:09:21.140 in his homeland

00:09:21.860 of Cuba

00:09:23.000 to follow

00:09:24.700 Fidel Castro.

00:09:26.840 My dad was young 1.00

00:09:28.560 and ignorant 1.00

00:09:29.800 and naive. 1.00

00:09:32.060 Rafael Bienvenido Cruz

00:09:33.540 did not know

00:09:35.200 that Castro

00:09:36.320 was a communist.

00:09:37.860 He didn't know

00:09:39.060 the horrors

00:09:39.820 that would befall

00:09:40.640 the Cuban people

00:09:41.460 at the hands

00:09:42.120 of his new comrades.

00:09:43.840 He just knew

00:09:44.960 that the then dictator

00:09:46.300 of Cuba,

00:09:47.240 Fulgencio Batista, 0.98

00:09:49.020 was corrupt 1.00

00:09:50.000 and cruel 1.00

00:09:51.180 and oppressive.

00:09:51.800 As Francis Ford Coppola

00:09:54.180 immortally chronicled

00:09:55.560 in the Godfather saga,

00:09:57.700 Batista was in bed

00:09:58.920 with the American mafia,

00:10:00.980 enjoying wealth

00:10:01.940 and power

00:10:03.320 purchased with the blood

00:10:05.040 beaten out

00:10:06.640 of the Cuban people.

00:10:08.280 Look,

00:10:08.940 that's my family story.

00:10:10.140 My dad at 17

00:10:11.240 was tortured.

00:10:12.140 He was in prison.

00:10:13.340 He fled Cuba.

00:10:14.320 He came to America. 0.63

00:10:15.880 My aunt,

00:10:17.000 my Tia Sonia,

00:10:17.760 whom I adore,

00:10:18.400 who we actually had

00:10:19.340 on verdict as a guest,

00:10:21.320 talking about Cuba.

00:10:22.480 She fought in the 0.99

00:10:23.040 counter-revolution

00:10:23.720 after Castro succeeded.

00:10:25.320 She was in prison.

00:10:26.440 She was tortured

00:10:27.280 by Castro's goons.

00:10:29.720 I tell her story

00:10:30.600 in this book, too.

00:10:32.480 I also tell the story

00:10:33.480 of my grandmother,

00:10:34.740 my abuela.

00:10:35.960 My abuela was

00:10:36.940 a sixth-grade teacher.

00:10:39.740 And she told me

00:10:41.080 she loved teaching.

00:10:41.940 She loved teaching

00:10:42.840 her students.

00:10:44.060 And she had a pure

00:10:44.820 photographic memory,

00:10:45.760 man.

00:10:45.880 It was incredible.

00:10:46.660 She literally,

00:10:47.480 everything she read,

00:10:48.540 she remembered

00:10:49.200 word for word.

00:10:52.340 She told me

00:10:53.360 about when Castro

00:10:54.220 took over,

00:10:55.120 that they almost

00:10:57.060 immediately

00:10:58.000 targeted the children.

00:10:59.880 And one thing

00:11:00.780 to understand,

00:11:01.640 Marxists

00:11:02.300 always begin

00:11:03.840 with the kids.

00:11:05.220 Always,

00:11:05.820 always,

00:11:06.280 always.

00:11:06.640 As my father told me,

00:11:07.920 the revolution,

00:11:08.880 like he was,

00:11:09.820 were a bunch of

00:11:10.640 14 and 15-year-old boys

00:11:12.600 who didn't know

00:11:13.280 any better.

00:11:14.300 Teenagers,

00:11:14.880 and you look at

00:11:15.400 every communist revolution

00:11:16.760 in the world.

00:11:17.800 Whether you're talking

00:11:18.740 about Russia or China

00:11:20.080 or North Korea

00:11:21.780 or Cuba or Venezuela,

00:11:23.320 it is always

00:11:24.260 the young teenagers

00:11:25.400 who are idealistic,

00:11:26.680 who believe,

00:11:27.800 and who are naive,

00:11:28.940 who don't have

00:11:29.740 the world experience

00:11:30.660 to understand

00:11:31.400 they're being lied to.

00:11:33.920 But communists

00:11:35.040 start not just

00:11:35.860 with teenagers,

00:11:36.620 they go younger.

00:11:37.340 And what my grandmother

00:11:37.940 told me is,

00:11:39.820 she said,

00:11:40.400 almost immediately

00:11:41.440 after the revolution,

00:11:42.480 they sent the army

00:11:44.200 into the elementary schools,

00:11:46.760 and soldiers

00:11:47.320 would go into

00:11:48.060 kindergartens

00:11:48.740 and first grade,

00:11:49.960 and they would tell

00:11:50.720 all of the little kids,

00:11:51.760 they'd say,

00:11:52.140 close your eyes

00:11:52.900 and pray to God

00:11:55.140 for candy.

00:11:57.680 And the kids

00:11:58.540 all did so.

00:12:00.360 And then they'd open

00:12:01.320 their eyes

00:12:01.800 and there'd be no candy.

00:12:03.140 And then the soldiers

00:12:04.180 would tell them,

00:12:05.660 they'd say,

00:12:06.260 close your eyes

00:12:07.040 and pray to Fidel Castro

00:12:09.700 for candy.

00:12:11.580 And the kids did so,

00:12:12.780 and while their eyes

00:12:13.420 were closed,

00:12:14.000 the soldiers

00:12:14.480 would quietly slip

00:12:15.680 a piece of candy

00:12:17.080 on each child's desk.

00:12:19.280 That's not an aberration.

00:12:21.580 Che Guevara,

00:12:22.260 who was a vicious, 0.98

00:12:23.480 bloodthirsty murderer, 0.95

00:12:24.920 he was Fidel Castro's 0.93

00:12:25.980 right hand.

00:12:27.200 Che Guevara described

00:12:28.520 children as malleable clay,

00:12:31.200 that you can take

00:12:32.120 the defects out of them.

00:12:33.200 You want to know

00:12:34.020 why the cultural Marxists

00:12:35.920 in America

00:12:36.320 started in the universities.

00:12:37.380 You want to know

00:12:38.100 why they've gone in

00:12:39.320 to K-12,

00:12:40.240 to elementary schools,

00:12:41.120 and junior highs

00:12:41.700 and high schools.

00:12:42.320 Because if you take

00:12:43.580 the children,

00:12:44.540 you take the nation.

00:12:46.040 And this book

00:12:46.780 is designed

00:12:47.420 to lay out

00:12:48.260 how they did it

00:12:49.240 and how we take them back.

00:12:51.040 You know,

00:12:51.200 when I was reading

00:12:51.720 this book,

00:12:52.360 Senator,

00:12:52.740 I go back to

00:12:54.040 there's certain

00:12:54.660 pivotal moments

00:12:55.560 in I think

00:12:56.100 everyone's life

00:12:56.880 that you look back on

00:12:57.920 and you go,

00:12:58.320 wow,

00:12:58.600 if that would have

00:12:59.480 gone differently,

00:13:00.960 my whole life

00:13:01.860 would have gone differently

00:13:02.660 or may not even exist

00:13:03.800 in the first place.

00:13:04.920 I was hit by a drunk driver

00:13:06.460 when I was a young kid.

00:13:08.720 We were in a car wreck.

00:13:09.780 He died.

00:13:10.240 We lived.

00:13:10.960 And I go back

00:13:11.800 to that moment

00:13:12.520 in my life

00:13:13.060 many times.

00:13:13.560 I was in a,

00:13:14.380 as you know,

00:13:14.880 a shooting

00:13:15.700 where I was a target

00:13:17.860 of a gang initiation.

00:13:18.760 I wonder

00:13:19.460 if I would have been hit

00:13:21.080 that night

00:13:21.600 and my life would have,

00:13:23.180 you know,

00:13:23.420 I wouldn't have my kids.

00:13:25.580 There's that moment

00:13:26.480 in this book

00:13:27.060 where you wrote,

00:13:27.720 my father joined up

00:13:28.980 and began doing acts

00:13:29.920 of sabotage,

00:13:30.840 burning government buildings,

00:13:32.420 throwing cocktails,

00:13:34.060 whatever he could

00:13:34.640 to undermine

00:13:35.120 the oppressive regime.

00:13:37.080 That's what had landed him

00:13:38.160 in prison at 17.

00:13:39.420 Batista's police

00:13:40.540 had caught him

00:13:41.120 and they were extracting

00:13:43.900 their brutal revenge.

00:13:45.420 The next day,

00:13:46.020 he was dragging

00:13:46.440 to the office

00:13:46.900 of a colonel

00:13:47.500 who told him,

00:13:48.220 I'm letting you go.

00:13:49.680 But if another bomb 0.91

00:13:50.640 goes off,

00:13:51.300 if another fire starts,

00:13:52.540 I'm blaming you.

00:13:53.880 How can I be responsible

00:13:55.120 for every bad thing

00:13:55.940 that happens in this city?

00:13:57.020 My father asked.

00:13:58.140 I don't care,

00:13:58.900 replied the commander.

00:14:00.000 I'm holding you responsible.

00:14:02.560 Your father returned home.

00:14:04.240 My abuela wept.

00:14:05.640 Her eldest child

00:14:06.500 had walked in the door,

00:14:07.600 beaten,

00:14:08.080 covered in his own blood.

00:14:09.480 As she told me

00:14:10.660 when I was a child

00:14:11.860 that imagined that

00:14:12.920 from that day

00:14:13.620 was scared into her mind

00:14:15.480 forever.

00:14:16.420 Forever.

00:14:17.320 My abuela told him,

00:14:18.700 get out of the country. 0.84

00:14:21.060 And that was the turning point

00:14:22.760 for your entire family history

00:14:24.700 because not only did he get out,

00:14:26.880 but he applied to colleges

00:14:28.440 in America,

00:14:29.680 to the University of Miami,

00:14:31.440 to LSU,

00:14:32.120 to the University of Texas.

00:14:33.880 Texas was the first one 0.99

00:14:35.180 that let him in.

00:14:35.860 And that's how he came

00:14:37.760 to America.

00:14:39.000 That's how you became

00:14:40.400 a Texan.

00:14:41.580 And that's how

00:14:42.640 your family history

00:14:43.740 started anew

00:14:44.860 with a clean slate

00:14:45.920 in America.

00:14:46.920 When you were writing that,

00:14:48.300 I'm assuming

00:14:48.860 you've heard the story

00:14:50.100 many times,

00:14:50.680 but when you put it on paper,

00:14:52.060 it took my breath away.

00:14:53.280 Look, the book

00:14:55.540 is actually dedicated,

00:14:57.680 I don't think

00:14:58.040 they know this yet,

00:14:58.840 but it is dedicated

00:14:59.780 to my father,

00:15:02.920 my Tia Sonia,

00:15:04.080 and my abuela

00:15:04.800 in my family,

00:15:07.000 the original

00:15:07.500 freedom fighters.

00:15:08.880 I don't think

00:15:09.580 my abuela is dead,

00:15:11.060 but I don't think

00:15:11.940 either my dad

00:15:12.560 or Tia Sonia

00:15:13.400 have seen that yet.

00:15:14.520 Now, my dad listens

00:15:15.400 to Verdict,

00:15:15.960 so he may find it out

00:15:19.020 right now

00:15:19.660 listening to the podcast.

00:15:21.900 But it was,

00:15:22.880 I mean,

00:15:23.100 when I,

00:15:23.520 it's actually

00:15:24.340 the very last thing

00:15:25.100 I type on the book

00:15:25.800 is the dedication,

00:15:26.700 and that was,

00:15:28.040 look,

00:15:28.520 it's why I am

00:15:30.900 who I am.

00:15:31.640 I grew up as a kid

00:15:32.920 sitting at the feet

00:15:34.720 of my father

00:15:35.420 and my Tia Sonia

00:15:36.200 and hearing about

00:15:36.780 freedom fighters,

00:15:37.580 and it is

00:15:38.780 an unbelievable blessing

00:15:40.360 when you are the child

00:15:42.820 of someone

00:15:43.360 who fled oppression

00:15:44.340 and came to America

00:15:45.500 seeking freedom.

00:15:47.140 Our freedom

00:15:47.520 is not a joke.

00:15:48.600 It's not something

00:15:49.360 that's kind of interesting.

00:15:50.360 It is incredibly serious.

00:15:53.980 We either,

00:15:54.580 we defend our freedom here

00:15:56.020 or we lose America. 0.98

00:15:57.460 I hate communists. 1.00

00:15:59.140 I hate them 1.00

00:15:59.800 with a passion 1.00

00:16:00.960 from the pit of my gut. 0.99

00:16:02.960 They are evil. 1.00

00:16:04.660 Communism has been 0.98

00:16:05.480 responsible for more death,

00:16:06.960 more misery,

00:16:07.620 more destruction,

00:16:08.400 more poverty,

00:16:09.080 more suffering

00:16:09.780 than any force

00:16:11.500 in the history of humanity.

00:16:13.700 And this book

00:16:14.880 is all about

00:16:15.800 how the same philosophy

00:16:19.480 that has produced

00:16:20.440 such misery

00:16:21.280 is taking over

00:16:23.040 and has taken over

00:16:24.240 the major institutions

00:16:25.840 of America.

00:16:26.800 And look,

00:16:27.600 you've heard me say this before,

00:16:28.780 but as a child,

00:16:29.540 my father probably

00:16:30.300 a thousand times

00:16:31.360 said to me,

00:16:32.020 when we lost our freedom

00:16:33.740 in Cuba,

00:16:34.120 I had a place to flee to.

00:16:35.520 If we lose our freedom

00:16:37.920 here in America,

00:16:39.460 where do we go?

00:16:41.100 That's what the stakes

00:16:42.180 are right now.

00:16:42.960 There was also a point

00:16:44.520 in there that hit me

00:16:46.120 and you said

00:16:47.460 that your dad

00:16:48.280 did something

00:16:48.940 that I think

00:16:49.600 we've lost

00:16:50.100 in this country.

00:16:51.060 And that's admitting

00:16:52.280 sometimes that maybe

00:16:53.440 we get things wrong.

00:16:54.580 Maybe this woke agenda

00:16:56.840 is a failure.

00:16:57.940 Maybe green alternative energy

00:16:59.480 in this green religion

00:17:01.500 is a failure. 0.87

00:17:02.760 We've tried this,

00:17:04.300 you know,

00:17:04.620 the government

00:17:05.360 taking over our kids,

00:17:06.380 it's a failure.

00:17:07.380 And your dad

00:17:08.080 was an advocate

00:17:08.860 for Castro early on.

00:17:11.100 And he was ashamed by it.

00:17:12.380 He advocated for him

00:17:13.520 even in America.

00:17:15.000 And he sat down,

00:17:16.000 I'm reading from the book,

00:17:16.760 he sat down

00:17:17.560 and he made a list

00:17:18.780 of every place

00:17:19.480 he'd spoken in Austin,

00:17:20.820 Texas in support of Castro.

00:17:22.920 He then went back

00:17:23.800 to each and every one of them

00:17:25.460 and stood before

00:17:26.620 the same people

00:17:27.400 to make amends.

00:17:28.880 He said,

00:17:29.420 quote,

00:17:29.720 I am here to apologize,

00:17:32.020 he told them.

00:17:33.060 I misled you.

00:17:34.040 I didn't do so knowingly,

00:17:35.800 but I did so nonetheless.

00:17:37.300 I urge you to support

00:17:39.540 an evil man 0.98

00:17:40.880 and an evil Marxist regime. 0.95

00:17:42.820 And for that,

00:17:43.860 I am truly sorry.

00:17:45.640 For me,

00:17:46.120 that's not just a point

00:17:48.160 of incredible character.

00:17:51.700 But why don't we have that

00:17:53.380 with politicians today

00:17:55.000 where they can admit,

00:17:57.080 hey,

00:17:57.420 I may have gotten

00:17:58.280 something wrong

00:17:59.260 and I'm sorry

00:18:00.480 that I got it wrong.

00:18:01.460 We tried this

00:18:02.360 and it didn't work

00:18:03.220 because we are now,

00:18:04.660 we have so many

00:18:05.400 elected officials

00:18:06.100 that refuse to ever admit

00:18:07.300 they ever make a mistake

00:18:08.380 and as humans,

00:18:09.120 we make mistakes.

00:18:10.460 Look,

00:18:10.840 that's exactly right

00:18:11.880 and that story,

00:18:13.180 likewise,

00:18:13.620 my father told me

00:18:14.580 thousands of times.

00:18:15.700 I was probably,

00:18:16.460 I don't know,

00:18:16.760 two or three years old

00:18:17.700 the first time I heard that

00:18:18.760 and I've admired it

00:18:20.940 every time I've heard it

00:18:21.780 because to have the courage,

00:18:23.540 he had gone

00:18:24.340 and spoken

00:18:25.340 at Rotary Clubs

00:18:26.700 and Kiwanis Clubs

00:18:27.660 in Austin

00:18:28.460 supporting Castro.

00:18:30.020 When he got here,

00:18:30.820 he got here,

00:18:31.160 it was 1957.

00:18:32.280 He was still

00:18:32.860 a young revolutionary.

00:18:33.780 He didn't know

00:18:34.520 that Castro

00:18:35.000 was a communist

00:18:35.620 and he hated Batista

00:18:37.240 and then when Castro

00:18:39.960 took over

00:18:40.640 and declared

00:18:41.100 he was a communist

00:18:41.840 and my dad saw

00:18:43.600 the evil

00:18:44.240 and oppression

00:18:44.860 and theft

00:18:45.480 and murder

00:18:46.020 and cruelty

00:18:46.740 and that as bad

00:18:48.180 as Batista was,

00:18:49.340 Fidel Castro 0.93

00:18:50.020 was a thousand times worse.

00:18:52.420 He had the character

00:18:53.140 to admit he's wrong.

00:18:54.400 You know,

00:18:54.740 I'm reminded of

00:18:55.560 the clip recently

00:18:57.920 where Barack Obama

00:18:59.040 played

00:18:59.660 that he said,

00:19:00.580 you know,

00:19:00.820 we are all complicit

00:19:03.840 in the Middle East

00:19:04.640 because he says,

00:19:05.280 well,

00:19:05.500 what Hamas did 0.90

00:19:06.200 was terrible

00:19:06.820 but he said,

00:19:07.920 what's happening

00:19:08.460 to the Palestinians,

00:19:09.980 the occupation

00:19:11.300 is unbearable

00:19:13.000 and I got to admit

00:19:13.860 of all the clips

00:19:15.980 of Obama,

00:19:16.540 that might be the one

00:19:17.220 that pisses me off

00:19:18.000 the most.

00:19:18.480 I actually did

00:19:19.400 yesterday

00:19:21.800 Megan Kelly's show,

00:19:23.460 her podcast

00:19:24.380 in New York

00:19:26.920 and was talking

00:19:27.480 about the book

00:19:28.340 and she played

00:19:30.560 that clip for me

00:19:31.480 and I try to

00:19:32.520 try to speak

00:19:33.900 reasonably

00:19:34.980 and respectably

00:19:35.780 and I try to limit

00:19:36.480 my cursing

00:19:37.100 but she played it to me

00:19:38.240 and I just said, 0.98

00:19:38.800 what utter bulls**t 0.99

00:19:40.320 and by the way, 0.99

00:19:41.360 anytime I say

00:19:41.900 something like that

00:19:42.560 my father

00:19:43.080 will call or text me

00:19:44.780 and say,

00:19:45.120 would you please

00:19:45.520 watch your language?

00:19:46.260 That's not really

00:19:47.040 a good thing to do

00:19:47.740 and my dad's right on that

00:19:48.680 but it just,

00:19:49.860 it's infuriating

00:19:51.660 and it's like,

00:19:52.200 look,

00:19:53.180 Obama,

00:19:53.840 you sent over

00:19:54.720 a hundred million dollars

00:19:55.840 to the Ayatollah

00:19:56.820 to Iran

00:19:57.900 you funded

00:19:58.620 these Hamas terrorists 0.93

00:19:59.640 you flooded money

00:20:00.740 into the Gaza Strip

00:20:01.600 you put money

00:20:02.100 directly in the hands

00:20:03.260 of these death squads

00:20:05.800 and you say

00:20:06.320 we're all complicit

00:20:07.320 and by the way

00:20:07.900 you're repeating 0.99

00:20:08.660 the bigoted racist lie

00:20:11.380 that there's an occupation

00:20:12.440 the Gaza Strip

00:20:13.160 is not occupied

00:20:14.020 Hamas controls 0.98

00:20:16.300 the Gaza Strip

00:20:16.920 Israel left 0.92

00:20:17.580 the Gaza Strip

00:20:18.160 it's entirely

00:20:18.820 the Palestinian

00:20:19.500 there is no occupation

00:20:21.300 zero

00:20:21.900 in Gaza

00:20:22.920 and yet

00:20:23.540 you know

00:20:24.680 is Barack Obama

00:20:27.080 capable of saying

00:20:28.060 it was a mistake

00:20:28.740 to send a hundred

00:20:29.360 billion dollars

00:20:29.980 to the Ayatollah

00:20:30.760 who chanced death

00:20:31.420 to America

00:20:31.840 death to Israel 0.99

00:20:32.540 no

00:20:32.860 is Joe Biden

00:20:34.040 capable of saying

00:20:34.900 it was a mistake

00:20:35.500 for him

00:20:36.060 to send nearly

00:20:36.860 a hundred million dollars

00:20:37.800 to Iran

00:20:39.100 subsequently

00:20:40.740 when that money

00:20:41.560 was used to fund

00:20:42.560 the worst terror attack

00:20:43.820 on Israel

00:20:44.760 in over 50 years

00:20:45.680 no

00:20:46.000 they're not capable

00:20:47.040 of admitting that

00:20:47.880 and I do think

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00:23:39.000 you mentioned

00:23:41.300 education

00:23:42.900 and how it's

00:23:44.060 the easiest way

00:23:44.560 to change a country

00:23:45.500 in one generation

00:23:46.540 but there was also

00:23:48.040 one of the things

00:23:48.960 you said on page 64

00:23:50.080 it says how to fight back

00:23:51.080 you said a few years ago

00:23:52.160 you walked in

00:23:52.960 to your daughter's bedroom

00:23:54.400 and asked

00:23:55.060 what she'd been learning

00:23:56.400 about in school

00:23:57.040 she said she had been

00:23:58.100 learning about

00:23:58.760 Christopher Columbus

00:23:59.560 the quote unquote

00:24:00.880 real story

00:24:01.740 I asked what that meant

00:24:03.180 for the next few minutes

00:24:04.500 I heard about the crimes

00:24:05.920 of Christopher Columbus

00:24:06.920 in minute detail

00:24:08.940 every murdered Native American

00:24:10.620 transmitted disease

00:24:11.880 and stolen acre of land

00:24:13.280 seemed to be accounted for

00:24:14.520 I heard that Columbus

00:24:16.100 who claimed the land

00:24:17.120 for himself

00:24:17.700 because he

00:24:18.440 his straight white privilege

00:24:20.440 or something like that

00:24:21.660 had not actually discovered

00:24:23.180 anything at all

00:24:24.180 but rather had landed

00:24:25.580 on the shores

00:24:26.880 of what would

00:24:27.600 come to be known

00:24:29.000 as America

00:24:29.800 by accident

00:24:30.880 this quote unquote

00:24:32.280 revolution

00:24:32.960 familiar to most adults

00:24:34.780 in the United States

00:24:35.460 is something that

00:24:36.080 American children

00:24:36.860 encounter sooner or later

00:24:38.020 in a textbook

00:24:39.180 believing

00:24:39.740 that they've accessed

00:24:42.160 some secret hidden knowledge

00:24:44.340 that the grown-ups

00:24:45.260 don't want them to have

00:24:46.560 that moment for me

00:24:48.940 is the moment

00:24:49.600 that terrifies me

00:24:50.600 for our kids

00:24:51.340 and my kids generation

00:24:52.960 is that

00:24:53.440 we have

00:24:54.380 handed our children

00:24:55.720 over to the school systems

00:24:56.960 and it's not just

00:24:57.920 public schools now

00:24:58.960 it's private schools as well

00:25:00.360 who are indoctrinating them

00:25:02.120 and this idea

00:25:02.940 that America

00:25:03.620 somehow was started

00:25:04.960 on evil

00:25:07.280 bad motives

00:25:08.800 and that you should

00:25:09.700 not love this country

00:25:10.900 but you should be ashamed

00:25:12.400 of this country

00:25:13.100 and you had to deal

00:25:14.180 with this with your own daughter

00:25:15.100 look that's exactly right

00:25:17.020 and the problem is

00:25:17.920 this indoctrination

00:25:19.060 is happening

00:25:19.700 in every school in America

00:25:21.040 it's happening

00:25:21.620 to every child in America

00:25:22.900 and what I described

00:25:24.760 part of the way

00:25:25.380 this book is all about

00:25:26.500 how we fight back

00:25:27.320 but you know

00:25:27.820 as she was saying

00:25:28.680 that Columbus

00:25:29.820 was evil 0.99

00:25:30.940 and racist 0.98

00:25:31.700 and genocidal 0.98

00:25:32.580 and terrible

00:25:33.160 and she hated

00:25:33.820 Christopher Columbus

00:25:34.660 you know

00:25:35.840 I just sat down

00:25:36.940 in her bedroom

00:25:37.400 and I tried to have

00:25:37.900 a conversation with her

00:25:38.720 and I said

00:25:39.000 look

00:25:39.240 I'm not deeply vested

00:25:41.620 in making the argument

00:25:42.960 that Christopher Columbus

00:25:43.940 was some incredible hero

00:25:45.460 but I said

00:25:47.080 you know what

00:25:47.580 we do have a federal holiday

00:25:49.840 named after him

00:25:51.680 do we typically

00:25:53.500 name federal holidays

00:25:55.220 after evil 0.92

00:25:57.040 racist 0.90

00:25:57.480 genocidal 1.00

00:25:58.080 maniacs 1.00

00:25:59.580 like 0.92

00:25:59.900 might there be

00:26:01.880 another side

00:26:02.480 to the story

00:26:02.980 is there anything

00:26:03.820 admirable about him

00:26:05.160 and she was not

00:26:06.100 not really able

00:26:06.800 to see much

00:26:07.680 that was admirable

00:26:08.680 I said

00:26:08.980 well

00:26:09.120 what do you think

00:26:10.140 about getting

00:26:10.640 in three rickety

00:26:11.820 wooden ships

00:26:13.520 and leaving Europe

00:26:15.140 and heading

00:26:16.300 heading west

00:26:17.740 when you think

00:26:18.400 you're falling off

00:26:19.220 the edge of the world

00:26:20.200 to explore

00:26:22.100 and discover

00:26:23.000 I mean

00:26:23.320 is that spirit

00:26:24.580 that intrepid spirit

00:26:25.800 is that anything

00:26:26.920 to be admired

00:26:27.660 and I said

00:26:28.840 secondly

00:26:29.280 look it is true

00:26:31.000 that Columbus

00:26:32.700 and the men

00:26:34.100 who traveled with him

00:26:34.980 that they carried

00:26:36.920 some germs

00:26:38.220 that were

00:26:39.220 new

00:26:41.060 to the western hemisphere

00:26:43.460 that when they got here

00:26:44.440 some of the

00:26:44.880 Native Americans

00:26:46.280 died from those germs

00:26:47.480 now it's also true

00:26:48.940 it was the 15th century

00:26:49.860 they didn't know

00:26:50.300 what a germ was

00:26:51.100 so they didn't know

00:26:52.180 they were carrying it

00:26:53.040 and when you accuse him

00:26:54.780 of mass murder

00:26:55.640 does culpability matter

00:26:58.520 does the fact

00:26:59.160 that they didn't know

00:26:59.880 what a germ was

00:27:00.600 they had no idea

00:27:01.380 they were doing it

00:27:02.120 is that at all relevant

00:27:03.660 if you're going to call him

00:27:04.880 this evil terrible murder

00:27:06.120 and what I talk about

00:27:07.440 in the book

00:27:08.020 is not long thereafter

00:27:10.040 Thanksgiving of that year

00:27:11.560 we were talking about

00:27:12.260 Thanksgiving

00:27:12.660 and she and a friend

00:27:13.860 of hers from school

00:27:14.480 and this is when

00:27:14.900 they were in grade school

00:27:15.580 said likewise

00:27:17.120 oh Thanksgiving

00:27:17.780 is terrible

00:27:19.180 it's when the pilgrims 1.00

00:27:20.320 were oppressing

00:27:21.040 the Native Americans

00:27:22.480 and you know

00:27:24.300 again

00:27:24.600 I made the argument

00:27:25.880 I think even more vigorously

00:27:26.940 this time

00:27:27.480 and I said

00:27:28.240 listen

00:27:28.500 it is certainly right

00:27:31.140 that the settlers

00:27:31.820 that came to America 0.98

00:27:32.860 that they

00:27:33.540 settled America

00:27:35.020 and they ultimately

00:27:36.900 conquered America 0.72

00:27:38.280 and they

00:27:39.180 committed some terrible acts

00:27:41.720 to Native Americans

00:27:42.660 but if you look at

00:27:44.200 the history of humanity

00:27:45.300 in every continent

00:27:46.600 every nation

00:27:48.560 was acquired

00:27:50.600 by conquest

00:27:51.480 and every time

00:27:52.200 there's conquest

00:27:52.800 you have one group

00:27:53.760 of people

00:27:54.120 who are conquering

00:27:54.840 another group

00:27:55.340 of people

00:27:55.660 by the way

00:27:56.180 in the United States

00:27:58.320 before we were

00:27:59.240 the United States

00:28:00.080 the Native Americans

00:28:01.020 one tribe

00:28:01.640 conquered another

00:28:02.320 conquered another

00:28:02.960 conquered another

00:28:03.640 and you look at

00:28:04.220 Europe

00:28:04.440 you look at Asia

00:28:05.060 that's the history

00:28:05.900 of humanity

00:28:06.320 one group

00:28:06.800 of people

00:28:07.060 conquering another

00:28:07.720 and anytime

00:28:08.600 you have conquest

00:28:09.800 there are

00:28:11.940 horrible things

00:28:14.440 that happen

00:28:14.920 there are terrible

00:28:15.440 things that are done

00:28:16.200 but I said

00:28:16.660 look in any war

00:28:17.760 there were atrocities

00:28:19.500 on both sides

00:28:20.380 and you know

00:28:20.840 I asked

00:28:21.340 I asked my daughter

00:28:22.100 I said

00:28:22.480 you know

00:28:23.480 from whence

00:28:24.380 do you think

00:28:25.020 the verb

00:28:25.980 to scalp

00:28:27.020 was derived

00:28:28.580 the Native Americans

00:28:30.100 did some horrible 0.97

00:28:31.080 things

00:28:31.720 to the settlers

00:28:32.860 who came here also

00:28:33.780 and

00:28:35.060 the connection

00:28:36.880 that I made

00:28:37.960 for her

00:28:38.340 and that I make

00:28:38.800 in the book

00:28:39.280 is

00:28:40.620 those two discussions

00:28:42.480 are interlinked

00:28:43.400 and intertwined

00:28:44.080 which is

00:28:45.800 for all

00:28:46.680 of the teachers

00:28:47.460 and all

00:28:48.000 of the professors

00:28:48.620 and all

00:28:49.220 of the people

00:28:49.700 advocating

00:28:50.320 that Columbus

00:28:51.260 was evil

00:28:51.920 and advocating

00:28:52.620 that Thanksgiving

00:28:53.240 is evil

00:28:53.780 because the pilgrims

00:28:54.540 were stealing

00:28:55.000 from the

00:28:55.480 Native Americans

00:28:57.040 it comes down

00:28:58.380 to one antecedent

00:28:59.440 question

00:28:59.880 was the settlement

00:29:02.000 of the new world

00:29:03.320 a good thing

00:29:05.000 or a bad thing

00:29:06.020 was the formation

00:29:07.080 of the United States

00:29:08.200 of America

00:29:08.840 good or bad

00:29:10.560 and I'm not

00:29:12.120 neutral or ambivalent

00:29:13.260 on that question

00:29:13.940 I think

00:29:14.460 the United States

00:29:15.740 of America

00:29:16.240 has been the

00:29:16.720 greatest force

00:29:17.540 for good

00:29:18.120 of any nation

00:29:19.020 in the history

00:29:19.700 of the world

00:29:20.380 that we have

00:29:21.380 produced more

00:29:22.000 prosperity

00:29:22.700 more abundance

00:29:23.600 we have liberated

00:29:24.640 more prisoners

00:29:25.880 and captives

00:29:26.720 we have shed

00:29:27.880 our blood

00:29:28.600 and treasure

00:29:29.400 and tears

00:29:30.320 fighting tyranny

00:29:31.960 more than any nation

00:29:33.180 in the history

00:29:33.980 of the world

00:29:34.480 do we have our flaws

00:29:35.680 yes of course

00:29:36.520 do we have our problems

00:29:37.500 yes of course

00:29:38.360 but America

00:29:40.040 I believe

00:29:41.000 like Reagan said

00:29:41.800 is a shining city

00:29:42.580 on a hill

00:29:42.900 and I want to make

00:29:43.660 a special

00:29:44.180 request of our

00:29:45.700 verdict listeners

00:29:46.240 you guys are

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00:29:47.220 you guys

00:29:48.360 are patriots

00:29:49.960 you guys give me

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00:29:51.800 in America

00:29:52.300 I want to ask

00:29:53.440 every one of you

00:29:54.180 please

00:29:54.700 today

00:29:56.620 when you finish

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00:30:25.400 by the way

00:30:26.000 and I wrote

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00:30:30.820 reason Ben

00:30:31.740 that you and I

00:30:32.280 do this podcast

00:30:32.920 it is right now

00:30:33.980 11.03pm

00:30:35.240 on Tuesday night

00:30:35.980 the podcast

00:30:36.480 will come out

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00:30:37.640 morning

00:30:37.980 why am I

00:30:39.000 sitting here

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00:30:40.100 why are you

00:30:40.660 sitting here

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00:30:41.760 because we care

00:30:42.860 about this

00:30:43.340 we want

00:30:44.060 we want

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00:30:46.360 listeners to be

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00:30:48.580 and know

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00:30:50.940 and this book

00:30:52.300 is exactly

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00:30:53.840 spirit

00:30:54.220 the book

00:30:55.160 is I think

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00:30:56.820 and fun

00:30:57.440 it's not

00:30:57.880 some abstract

00:30:59.500 academic

00:31:00.140 treatise

00:31:00.740 but it's

00:31:01.800 designed

00:31:02.320 when you read

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00:31:03.060 you'll enjoy

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00:31:05.760 look

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00:31:17.620 because

00:31:18.560 the reason

00:31:19.760 that I

00:31:20.280 spend the

00:31:20.960 time to

00:31:21.520 write these

00:31:21.960 books

00:31:22.240 the reason

00:31:22.720 that you

00:31:23.240 and I

00:31:23.480 do this

00:31:23.780 podcast

00:31:24.180 is we

00:31:25.800 either

00:31:26.380 persuade

00:31:27.240 and win

00:31:28.160 hearts

00:31:28.660 and minds

00:31:29.380 or we

00:31:30.560 lose

00:31:30.860 America

00:31:31.240 that's what

00:31:31.940 the stakes

00:31:32.400 are and

00:31:32.760 that's what

00:31:33.080 this book

00:31:33.440 is about

00:31:33.780 it's the

00:31:34.120 exact same

00:31:34.780 thing the

00:31:35.140 podcast

00:31:35.460 is about

00:31:36.040 you mentioned

00:31:37.300 that what

00:31:38.060 we're up

00:31:38.400 against

00:31:38.740 and one

00:31:39.360 of your

00:31:39.620 chapters

00:31:40.200 is about

00:31:41.000 the newsroom

00:31:41.920 revolution

00:31:43.040 and you

00:31:43.600 start with

00:31:44.220 a great

00:31:44.720 story

00:31:45.380 of a

00:31:46.860 former

00:31:47.100 colleague

00:31:47.580 of mine

00:31:48.000 that is

00:31:48.340 hard to deal

00:31:48.860 with

00:31:49.120 Jake

00:31:49.400 Tapper

00:31:49.880 and a

00:31:51.380 fight

00:31:52.100 and a 0.99

00:31:53.180 liar 1.00

00:31:55.020 and this 0.99

00:31:55.760 is the

00:31:56.120 new thing

00:31:56.680 that the

00:31:57.000 media has

00:31:57.620 done

00:31:57.860 they become

00:31:58.300 so

00:31:58.600 sanctimonious

00:31:59.440 that they

00:32:00.360 are always

00:32:01.260 looking for

00:32:02.000 a moment

00:32:02.320 to tell

00:32:02.800 you why

00:32:03.600 you're

00:32:04.000 wrong

00:32:04.440 and why

00:32:05.100 they're

00:32:05.540 brilliant

00:32:06.120 we've seen

00:32:06.860 this in

00:32:08.000 the last

00:32:08.400 several days

00:32:09.200 as they've

00:32:09.680 been demanding

00:32:10.420 a ceasefire

00:32:11.380 to protect

00:32:12.600 the terrorists

00:32:13.340 in Gaza

00:32:14.020 who the

00:32:15.280 Israelis are 1.00

00:32:16.380 trying to 0.99

00:32:17.120 eradicate

00:32:17.980 from the face

00:32:18.660 of this earth

00:32:19.200 with good

00:32:19.720 reason after

00:32:20.460 what they did

00:32:21.120 just one

00:32:21.620 month ago

00:32:22.100 and we

00:32:22.400 talked about

00:32:23.000 this on

00:32:23.420 Verdict

00:32:23.780 Israel we

00:32:25.180 knew was

00:32:25.680 on an

00:32:26.600 artificial clock

00:32:27.720 the day

00:32:28.140 the terrorist

00:32:28.640 attack happened

00:32:29.320 before the

00:32:30.020 media

00:32:30.360 before the

00:32:31.400 left

00:32:31.820 started going

00:32:32.980 to the aid

00:32:33.840 of Hamas

00:32:34.820 and the

00:32:36.240 Palestinian people

00:32:37.100 that were

00:32:37.460 backing Hamas 0.99

00:32:38.380 many of them

00:32:38.780 that were

00:32:39.280 and saying

00:32:40.220 okay alright

00:32:40.800 you had a few

00:32:41.360 days now

00:32:41.860 to go after 0.95

00:32:42.360 these terrorists 0.86

00:32:42.720 now you gotta

00:32:43.160 stop it

00:32:43.860 now it's

00:32:44.860 your obligation

00:32:45.940 to stop

00:32:47.080 trying to

00:32:47.480 protect yourself

00:32:48.260 and this

00:32:49.480 is our

00:32:49.880 media now

00:32:50.580 and it

00:32:51.200 goes back

00:32:51.900 to this

00:32:52.380 idea that

00:32:53.260 they have

00:32:53.660 which is

00:32:54.040 they're better

00:32:54.560 than everyone

00:32:55.080 else

00:32:55.440 they're not

00:32:56.200 here to

00:32:56.480 report news

00:32:57.160 anymore

00:32:57.440 they're here

00:32:57.900 to go after

00:32:58.720 people like

00:32:59.420 you and

00:33:00.280 others that

00:33:00.840 they don't

00:33:01.380 like and

00:33:01.820 indoctrinate a

00:33:02.680 nation to

00:33:03.460 believe in

00:33:04.120 socialism and

00:33:04.920 communism and

00:33:05.600 Marxism

00:33:06.160 look that

00:33:07.420 that is

00:33:07.900 exactly right

00:33:08.760 and the

00:33:09.460 media has

00:33:10.060 fundamentally

00:33:10.500 changed

00:33:11.080 and so the

00:33:11.600 chapter on

00:33:12.280 journalism

00:33:12.920 I talk about

00:33:14.720 how when I

00:33:15.280 was first elected

00:33:15.960 to the Senate

00:33:16.420 11 years ago

00:33:17.140 and I

00:33:17.320 actually focus

00:33:17.920 on CNN

00:33:18.480 as really

00:33:19.060 a case

00:33:19.940 lesson

00:33:20.320 11 years

00:33:21.960 ago CNN

00:33:22.640 they aspired

00:33:24.860 to be

00:33:25.260 journalists

00:33:25.740 if you ask

00:33:26.380 them they'd

00:33:26.780 say we want

00:33:27.340 to be

00:33:27.520 journalists

00:33:27.880 we want

00:33:28.220 to present

00:33:28.540 both sides

00:33:29.140 we want

00:33:29.460 to be fair

00:33:29.920 and objective

00:33:30.460 and balanced

00:33:31.180 and and we

00:33:32.560 want to focus

00:33:33.280 on facts

00:33:33.940 and not our

00:33:34.400 opinion

00:33:34.740 now they

00:33:35.820 were terrible

00:33:36.400 at it

00:33:36.800 they leaned

00:33:37.460 hard left 0.70

00:33:38.180 and they

00:33:38.460 couldn't help

00:33:39.120 themselves

00:33:39.540 but that was

00:33:40.880 the objective

00:33:41.640 number one

00:33:42.220 they would

00:33:42.560 articulate to you

00:33:43.620 they were trying

00:33:44.200 to achieve

00:33:44.720 but number two

00:33:45.400 I think they

00:33:45.800 believed in their

00:33:46.460 heart they were

00:33:47.020 trying to do

00:33:47.540 that and so

00:33:48.720 when I was

00:33:49.220 first elected

00:33:49.820 to the Senate

00:33:50.320 you may find

00:33:50.880 this hard to

00:33:51.340 believe but I

00:33:52.760 went on CNN

00:33:53.460 just about every

00:33:54.420 week I went

00:33:55.080 on there over

00:33:55.760 and over and

00:33:56.380 over again and

00:33:56.960 they would give

00:33:57.460 you a chance

00:33:58.160 to lay out a

00:33:59.580 conservative

00:34:00.000 argument and

00:34:00.560 they'd attack

00:34:01.040 you from the

00:34:01.480 left and

00:34:01.820 they'd be

00:34:02.100 unfair and

00:34:02.580 they'd play

00:34:02.860 gotcha

00:34:03.180 questions but

00:34:03.900 but they

00:34:04.920 would give

00:34:05.440 you a chance

00:34:06.300 to present

00:34:06.760 the other

00:34:07.160 side and

00:34:08.500 what happened

00:34:09.280 is when

00:34:10.940 Donald Trump

00:34:11.700 became president

00:34:12.500 I think it

00:34:13.040 fundamentally

00:34:13.860 broke the

00:34:15.140 media their

00:34:15.660 brains shattered

00:34:17.200 they hated

00:34:17.860 him so much

00:34:18.780 that today

00:34:20.080 the media

00:34:20.680 no longer

00:34:21.520 views its

00:34:22.240 vision as

00:34:24.080 being journalists

00:34:24.860 as being fair

00:34:25.620 and impartial

00:34:26.380 and presenting

00:34:27.240 both sides

00:34:27.980 instead they

00:34:29.440 have embraced

00:34:30.400 a vision that

00:34:31.360 they are

00:34:31.720 advocates

00:34:32.460 they are

00:34:33.080 defenders of

00:34:34.160 democracy

00:34:34.740 and what they

00:34:35.140 mean by

00:34:35.460 democracy is

00:34:36.440 left wing

00:34:37.640 radical policies

00:34:38.700 and so the

00:34:42.520 story I tell

00:34:43.300 in the very

00:34:44.900 beginning of

00:34:45.540 the journalism

00:34:46.140 chapter is

00:34:47.800 during the

00:34:48.300 presidential race

00:34:49.200 I was out on

00:34:51.220 the campaign

00:34:51.680 trial I was

00:34:52.020 actually in our

00:34:52.600 campaign bus

00:34:53.380 and I was

00:34:54.240 doing an

00:34:54.600 interview with

00:34:55.120 Jake Tapper

00:34:55.700 and look I'll

00:34:56.680 confess I like

00:34:57.400 Jake I've

00:34:57.880 known Jake

00:34:58.460 for over 20

00:34:59.460 years I've

00:35:00.020 known Jake

00:35:00.540 since he was

00:35:01.400 a cub

00:35:01.940 reporter on

00:35:03.980 the George

00:35:04.600 W. Bush 2000

00:35:05.520 campaign and I

00:35:06.340 was a baby

00:35:07.020 staffer on it

00:35:07.740 and so I've

00:35:08.220 known him a

00:35:08.580 long time

00:35:09.040 and he was

00:35:10.280 interviewing me

00:35:10.960 for his Sunday

00:35:11.460 show and and

00:35:12.820 we were we did

00:35:13.540 an interview and

00:35:14.180 it was I don't

00:35:15.740 remember probably

00:35:16.140 10 minutes or

00:35:16.740 so and I had

00:35:18.380 learned a lesson

00:35:19.040 it's something that

00:35:19.720 I do with every

00:35:20.480 Sunday show which

00:35:22.080 is that I insist

00:35:23.180 that the Sunday

00:35:23.860 show either be

00:35:24.740 live or it be

00:35:26.520 live to tape and

00:35:27.520 the reason I

00:35:28.060 learned that is I

00:35:28.880 had done just a

00:35:29.820 few weeks earlier

00:35:30.480 an interview with

00:35:31.140 Bob Schieffer at

00:35:32.000 CBS and Bob

00:35:33.020 Schieffer I hadn't

00:35:34.880 insisted on that and

00:35:35.980 he'd done the

00:35:36.580 interview and then

00:35:37.400 afterwards his

00:35:38.320 show had edited

00:35:39.980 it and basically

00:35:40.960 cut out every good

00:35:42.080 argument I made and

00:35:43.120 just just put this

00:35:44.200 this slash job where

00:35:46.480 he decimated me

00:35:47.860 because he excluded

00:35:48.680 all my good answers

00:35:49.580 and and just just

00:35:50.760 edited it in a way

00:35:51.700 that was really

00:35:52.300 deceptive and I

00:35:53.620 said okay never

00:35:54.260 again if we do

00:35:55.880 one of these they

00:35:57.120 must air what I

00:35:58.140 actually say and I

00:35:59.320 said look if you

00:35:59.960 want to give me five

00:36:01.380 minutes or six or

00:36:02.180 eight or ten or

00:36:02.760 twelve or whatever

00:36:03.380 you can pick the

00:36:03.940 time but when we

00:36:05.500 film it you air

00:36:06.340 exactly what happens

00:36:07.500 during that time so

00:36:08.300 we had agreed with

00:36:09.080 that with CNN and

00:36:11.000 in the course of the

00:36:11.800 interview we were

00:36:13.320 talking about the

00:36:14.360 shooting at Fort

00:36:15.060 Hood and Nadal

00:36:16.100 Hassan who was who

00:36:17.260 was the the radical

00:36:18.300 Islamist who had 0.84

00:36:19.180 walked through and 0.97

00:36:20.600 and murdered 14

00:36:21.940 innocent souls yelling

00:36:23.480 Aluha Akbar and I

00:36:25.620 mentioned that the

00:36:26.720 Obama administration

00:36:27.680 knew that Hassan was

00:36:30.520 a radical jihadist they

00:36:32.240 knew that he had been

00:36:33.560 in in email

00:36:34.280 communication with

00:36:35.280 Anwar al-Awlaki who

00:36:36.560 was the the Islamist 0.93

00:36:38.160 cleric the radical that

00:36:39.780 he'd asked al-Awlaki

00:36:40.960 about the permissibility

00:36:42.380 of waging jihad on his

00:36:45.280 fellow soldiers and

00:36:47.380 yet the Obama

00:36:48.140 administration did

00:36:49.040 nothing until he

00:36:49.840 committed that act of

00:36:50.740 mass murder and when

00:36:52.280 I said all of that Jake

00:36:53.600 immediately interrupted

00:36:54.540 and they said that's not

00:36:55.340 true no that's not

00:36:56.860 that's not right and he

00:36:57.680 said what you're saying

00:36:58.480 is fundamentally false

00:36:59.660 that's a lie it's not

00:37:00.940 true and and you know I

00:37:03.080 just kind of smiled and

00:37:04.120 I said well you know

00:37:04.860 Jake as as John Adams

00:37:06.320 said facts are stubborn

00:37:08.200 things and what I'm

00:37:09.080 saying is entirely

00:37:09.880 accurate and and and

00:37:11.280 you know when when you

00:37:12.320 research the issue that's

00:37:13.240 exactly what you're going

00:37:13.900 to find out so we do the

00:37:14.740 interview Jake and his

00:37:17.040 production team leaves the

00:37:18.260 bus and and I don't

00:37:19.480 know five ten minutes

00:37:20.160 later there's a knock on

00:37:22.120 the door of the bus and

00:37:22.840 we open it it's Jake and

00:37:23.980 he's very sheepish and he

00:37:25.120 says hey can you come in

00:37:25.860 and talk for a second I

00:37:26.640 said yeah sure come on in

00:37:27.440 and he said look after we

00:37:29.680 did the interview he said

00:37:31.060 I went and got on the

00:37:31.960 internet and I researched

00:37:33.140 it and and actually you

00:37:35.260 were right he said I

00:37:36.260 didn't know that I had

00:37:37.180 missed I just had not

00:37:38.380 seen the the revelation

00:37:41.100 that the Obama

00:37:41.780 administration knew it

00:37:42.780 it just I couldn't

00:37:43.620 believe it and and but

00:37:44.800 turns out you were right

00:37:45.720 I was wrong and and and

00:37:46.880 Jake said listen I'll give

00:37:48.780 you a choice we can do it

00:37:49.720 one of two ways he said I

00:37:51.760 agreed we would do this

00:37:52.720 live to tape and so if if

00:37:54.980 you want I will air it

00:37:56.140 exactly as it happened and

00:37:58.860 then after I air it I will

00:38:00.380 I will come on on live and

00:38:02.600 I'll say after the

00:38:04.120 interview I researched it

00:38:05.660 and it turns out I was

00:38:07.840 wrong and Cruz was right

00:38:09.440 what he said was exactly

00:38:10.680 right and I was in error

00:38:11.800 when I said he was not

00:38:12.760 telling the truth he said

00:38:14.460 that's option number one

00:38:15.480 he said option number two

00:38:17.820 which he said I'd really

00:38:18.820 much prefer it is that we

00:38:21.660 just edit out that segment

00:38:22.900 we just remove it from from

00:38:24.380 the interview and we air

00:38:25.320 everything else and just not

00:38:26.440 include that segment and and

00:38:28.920 I described in the book

00:38:29.820 that you know I thought

00:38:30.720 about it it was obviously

00:38:32.100 in my self-interest to pick

00:38:33.740 option number one that that

00:38:35.500 like having CNN having

00:38:37.360 Tapper admit he was full of 1.00

00:38:39.080 crap and I was right that 1.00

00:38:40.140 was a big political victory 0.99

00:38:41.840 but I also expected that I

00:38:46.540 would be doing a whole lot

00:38:47.760 more interviews with Tapper

00:38:49.880 and with CNN and I frankly

00:38:52.040 respected how he approached

00:38:53.260 it that he came to me and he

00:38:54.520 admitted he was wrong and he

00:38:55.640 gave me that option I thought

00:38:56.740 was an honorable way to

00:38:57.780 handle it and so I made what

00:39:00.140 I would say is a long-term

00:39:01.360 play rather than a short-term

00:39:02.600 play and I said okay you can

00:39:03.800 go ahead and cut the segment

00:39:04.760 out and so they did so the

00:39:06.000 set the story I recount in

00:39:07.840 the book that segment never

00:39:09.960 aired because CNN cut the

00:39:11.400 segment out I focus on Tapper

00:39:14.880 in particular because I think

00:39:16.260 he's a smart guy and I think

00:39:18.360 he wants to be a journalist and

00:39:19.940 I think in his heart right now

00:39:21.420 he knows that he's not that

00:39:23.780 Trump broke Tapper that now

00:39:25.780 CNN will have a panel of five

00:39:27.680 experts there to discuss

00:39:29.760 true or not Donald Trump is 0.88

00:39:32.500 the devil and all five of them 1.00

00:39:34.420 agree of course he's the devil 0.99

00:39:35.740 no he's worse than the devil 0.69

00:39:36.760 that's the whole debate and you

00:39:38.960 know look CNN used to be a place

00:39:41.080 if you go back to 2017 in 2017 I

00:39:45.340 did three town hall debates on

00:39:47.820 CNN with Bernie Sanders we did

00:39:50.720 one on health care and two on tax

00:39:52.700 policy and and and they were

00:39:54.420 great debates I think they were

00:39:55.960 among if not the highest rated

00:39:57.340 shows on CNN that whole year they

00:39:58.960 were 90 minutes Bernie is an

00:40:01.160 unapologetic defender of

00:40:02.900 socialism I'm an unapologetic

00:40:04.640 defender of capitalism and we had a

00:40:06.980 real and substantive debate that

00:40:09.900 CNN doesn't exist anymore and it's

00:40:12.760 bad for America it's bad for the

00:40:14.960 world that we don't have

00:40:16.620 functioning journalism and I

00:40:18.060 describe all of this in the book

00:40:19.360 but I also describe how because

00:40:22.320 journalism corporate media is

00:40:23.880 broken it's part of what makes the

00:40:26.580 radical Democrats so extreme why 1.00

00:40:28.500 they vote for such ridiculous 0.98

00:40:30.500 policy positions that are so out of 0.98

00:40:32.840 the mainstream because they know

00:40:34.940 they will never ever ever get asked

00:40:36.740 about it by reporters back home they

00:40:38.860 will never have to defend it and so

00:40:40.480 it's radicalized the Democrat party

00:40:42.940 in Washington senator there's another

00:40:45.060 part of your book that I want to

00:40:46.780 mention real quick and it's a trend

00:40:48.940 whether it's you talking about big

00:40:51.120 tech or the schools or Marxism in

00:40:55.760 Washington the list goes on and on

00:40:58.380 especially you have a lot to talk in

00:41:00.220 here about science and COVID that

00:41:02.900 chapter is probably my favorite as I

00:41:05.220 was reading it today I was marking it

00:41:08.240 up but there's a trend in this book and

00:41:10.920 I love this this may be my favorite

00:41:12.520 part is you at each in each chapter in

00:41:16.040 essence ask how do you fight back

00:41:18.280 how to reclaim control how do we win

00:41:22.320 it's not just a book of you ranting

00:41:24.320 about issues but you actually lay out

00:41:27.020 how we can succeed and get our and win

00:41:30.960 on our side of the argument and that's

00:41:32.980 what empowers the reader to not just

00:41:35.900 read a book but to take something from

00:41:37.860 it and I love that well it is critically

00:41:41.600 important and there are all sorts of

00:41:43.040 elements of how we fight back and win

00:41:44.860 one of it is is transparency and

00:41:47.300 sunshine the views of the radical left

00:41:49.780 are wildly unpopular look no rational

00:41:53.680 person supports abolishing the police

00:41:56.340 that's a nutty position no rational

00:41:59.120 person supports open borders in the

00:42:01.460 chaos at our southern border no rational

00:42:03.860 person supports medically and surgically

00:42:06.820 sterilizing and castrating eight-year-old

00:42:09.420 children no rational person is is 0.61

00:42:12.460 befuddled by the question what is a

00:42:15.060 woman all of those are 90 10 issues and

00:42:19.340 the radical left is on the the the

00:42:22.540 extreme minority position on every one of

00:42:25.280 them it's why they rely on force rather

00:42:28.640 than persuasion because their positions

00:42:31.140 are out there and and so often shining a

00:42:34.040 light is really really potent and I'm

00:42:37.180 going to give an example I'm going to

00:42:38.220 give an example from verdict so we had a

00:42:43.340 podcast several weeks ago that was

00:42:46.540 entitled Black Lives Matter is Hamas and

00:42:51.480 we walk through how Black Lives Matter as a

00:42:53.820 statement is is a truism it's absolutely

00:42:56.280 true yes period the end however Black Lives 1.00

00:43:00.060 Matter the organization Black Lives Matter 0.90

00:43:02.160 Inc is a very different thing it is found

00:43:05.200 founded by avowed Marxists who are trained

00:43:09.520 Marxists they're trained in fomenting

00:43:11.480 communist revolutions that's their own 0.66

00:43:13.580 self-description not our language their 1.00

00:43:15.640 language they are vicious racists and they 1.00

00:43:19.940 are deeply deeply anti-semitic they hate 0.96

00:43:23.440 Israel indeed one of the co-founders of

00:43:25.820 Black Lives Matter has called since 1995 for

00:43:28.720 the destruction of the state of Israel and

00:43:30.440 and on our podcast we laid out all of that

00:43:33.480 evidence and then we then we named names

00:43:35.960 of all of the or a number of the giant

00:43:38.200 corporations who had given millions of

00:43:40.100 dollars to Black Lives Matter and that 0.95

00:43:41.560 included Amazon and Apple and Coca-Cola and

00:43:44.800 and we said listen to these companies do you

00:43:47.540 support vicious racism do you support

00:43:51.940 vicious anti-semitism do you support

00:43:54.120 demanding the the destruction of the state

00:43:57.240 of Israel do you support the these avowed 0.96

00:43:59.480 Marxist because you gave money to them that

00:44:02.560 podcast came out I believe October 18th the

00:44:07.400 next day Coca-Cola went online and they

00:44:13.260 scrubbed their website to remove every

00:44:16.540 reference to the five hundred thousand

00:44:18.400 dollars that they had given to Black Lives 0.99

00:44:20.380 Matter and it was a direct result of this

00:44:22.620 verdict podcast we put the podcast out and

00:44:26.040 almost immediately they erased it now they

00:44:28.280 thought they could do it quietly they

00:44:29.820 could just hide and evade responsibility

00:44:31.800 I'm calling them out I'm calling them

00:44:33.580 out and I'm shining a light and I'm

00:44:35.240 saying look have you apologized to the

00:44:36.920 American people for why you were funding 0.70

00:44:38.680 a viciously racist and anti-semitic

00:44:41.020 organization and it wasn't a secret they 0.74

00:44:43.000 were open about it then you just didn't

00:44:45.740 care because your woke politics mattered

00:44:47.660 more to you than doing the right thing and

00:44:50.160 that's one of the strategies that is

00:44:52.340 inherent in this book is shining the light

00:44:55.000 and calling them out and that's how you

00:44:57.140 win victories and chapter after chapter I

00:44:59.900 talk about winning victories whether it's

00:45:01.600 winning school board seats back or flipping

00:45:03.700 Virginia red as parents got furious or

00:45:07.380 whether it's Elon Musk buying Twitter all of

00:45:09.920 these are strategies where we take these

00:45:12.520 institutions back it's an incredible book

00:45:15.940 center and congratulations on it it's one

00:45:18.940 that I hope everybody listening will go grab

00:45:21.620 you can go to Amazon right now you can

00:45:23.880 order it it's a fabulous Christmas gift

00:45:26.500 it is 356 pages from beginning to end

00:45:31.460 one of the chapters that that you've got

00:45:34.660 to read if you get it make sure you read

00:45:36.680 the big tech chapter and also science the

00:45:40.760 science chapter to me was one that that as

00:45:43.800 I was reading it center I could I know you

00:45:47.180 well enough to know when you really get

00:45:48.860 passionate about something you were really

00:45:50.960 really passionate when writing that chapter

00:45:54.000 on science and what has happened and how

00:45:57.000 science and it has just been totally

00:45:59.640 corrupted whether it's by Fauci or others

00:46:03.040 that are pushing agendas through science

00:46:05.200 and those are two chapters I just want to

00:46:07.920 mark for people make sure you take a look at

00:46:09.920 those as well grab the book unwoke how to

00:46:13.320 defeat a cultural Marxism in America you can

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Perfect Black Friday Christmas Gift-The Bestseller Book Unwoke： How to Defeat Cultural Marxism In America

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