Verdict with Ted Cruz - November 25, 2023


Tik Tok Flooded with Bin Laden Propaganda, Infrastructure Money Tied to Woke Initiatives, & Education Changing Country Forever the Week In Review


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China is flooding TikTok with Osama bin Laden propaganda, and getting young people to read his letter to America, and then advocate for his viewpoint. We're going to dive into that and what this means for the minds of young people all over the world. Up next, infrastructure. If you ask voters, it's something they're all in favor of, better roads. But what happens when the roads turn into woke agenda items? Well, billions and billions of your tax dollars that were meant for infrastructure projects are now tied to woke initiatives, and we'll expose that. And finally, education is changing in this country and that education that has nothing to do with reading, writing, or arithmetic may be changing this nation forever.

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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:05.340 Welcome, it's Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.
00:00:08.160 Week in Review, Ben Ferguson with you,
00:00:10.260 and I hope you had a fabulous time
00:00:12.500 with your family over Thanksgiving.
00:00:14.800 Now, here are some of the stories
00:00:16.540 that you may have missed this week
00:00:18.060 that we talked about.
00:00:19.420 First up, China flooding TikTok
00:00:22.040 with Osama Bin Laden propaganda,
00:00:25.500 getting young people to read his letter to America
00:00:28.480 and then advocate for Osama Bin Laden's viewpoint.
00:00:33.040 How are we allowing this to happen
00:00:34.620 in this country and around the world?
00:00:36.900 We're going to dive into that
00:00:38.540 and what this means with China
00:00:40.380 trying to control the minds of young people 0.70
00:00:43.120 all over the world.
00:00:45.080 Up next, infrastructure.
00:00:47.200 If you ask voters,
00:00:48.280 it's something they're all in favor of,
00:00:50.220 better roads.
00:00:51.340 But what happens when the roads
00:00:53.020 turn into woke agenda items?
00:00:56.420 Well, billions and billions of your tax dollars
00:00:59.200 that were meant for infrastructure projects
00:01:01.940 are now tied to woke initiatives,
00:01:04.500 and we'll expose that.
00:01:06.240 And finally, education is changing in this country,
00:01:10.280 and that education that has nothing to do
00:01:13.140 with reading, writing, and arithmetic
00:01:14.480 may be changing this nation forever.
00:01:18.180 The senator will break down that warning for you as well.
00:01:21.620 It's the Week in Review,
00:01:22.940 and it starts right now.
00:01:24.680 This goes into something else
00:01:26.660 that I have to bring up,
00:01:27.600 and it's something that we've seen on TikTok.
00:01:29.360 Now, if you don't know what TikTok is,
00:01:30.560 we've talked about this before.
00:01:32.120 Quick recap, it's an app that a ton of people use.
00:01:35.920 Especially young people.
00:01:36.980 Especially young people.
00:01:37.980 And China uses it to influence 0.75
00:01:40.320 young people specifically.
00:01:43.600 We saw an unbelievable uptick on TikTok,
00:01:47.380 and there's data to back this up,
00:01:48.960 of pro-Hamas videos,
00:01:51.520 pro-Hamas propaganda,
00:01:53.500 anti-Israel propaganda,
00:01:55.480 pro-Palestinian propaganda.
00:01:57.000 A Harvard poll recently came out
00:02:00.260 that said of Americans 18 to 24,
00:02:02.760 51% believe that Hamas' atrocities
00:02:07.200 could be justified.
00:02:08.780 51%, more than half of young people.
00:02:11.500 And TikTok is affirmatively pushing
00:02:13.740 this pro-Hamas propaganda, 1.00
00:02:16.540 this garbage to young people. 1.00
00:02:18.880 And it has an enormous negative influence. 0.99
00:02:21.120 And I want to put on now
00:02:23.220 one video from TikTok
00:02:25.080 that went viral this week
00:02:26.460 that shows just how cancerous.
00:02:29.300 And it deals with Osama bin Laden,
00:02:30.840 so if you understand the context of this.
00:02:32.900 There was,
00:02:33.800 and this clearly is propaganda
00:02:35.320 meant to influence.
00:02:36.740 And there was a letter
00:02:37.760 that Osama bin Laden had put out 0.61
00:02:40.400 before, it was, I guess,
00:02:41.640 technically right before 9-11
00:02:42.900 or justifying the 9-11 attacks
00:02:44.720 and explaining his thoughts
00:02:46.560 on why he was doing 9-11.
00:02:48.660 This letter, decades later,
00:02:51.400 has gone viral only on TikTok,
00:02:54.840 go back to propaganda of China, 0.91
00:02:56.980 to influence young people
00:02:57.980 to believe that somehow
00:02:59.420 Osama bin Laden was justified 1.00
00:03:01.580 in his 9-11 attack
00:03:03.640 the same way that they're justifying
00:03:05.500 Hamas' attack on Israel.
00:03:08.300 And this is what Americans are saying
00:03:12.060 about reading this letter
00:03:13.580 for the first time on TikTok, look.
00:03:16.400 So it starts with a woman, 0.98
00:03:18.040 me when I got the news in 2011
00:03:19.600 that we got him
00:03:20.600 and she's celebrating.
00:03:21.720 Then 2023,
00:03:23.120 reading his letter to America
00:03:24.240 knowing he was right.
00:03:25.840 Osama bin Laden,
00:03:26.600 that's what they're talking about.
00:03:27.440 Actually, before you even read the letter,
00:03:29.480 I did want to mention,
00:03:30.660 in reading the letter,
00:03:31.540 I could only think of this tweet
00:03:32.940 that I saw the other day.
00:03:34.400 Under settler colonialism,
00:03:35.580 any kind of resistance
00:03:36.880 is branded as terrorist
00:03:38.220 because the only acceptable violence
00:03:39.980 is violence by the occupier.
00:03:41.940 So please keep that in mind
00:03:43.660 when reading the letter.
00:03:44.420 Another young person.
00:03:45.360 Um, we really need to stop paying taxes
00:03:47.700 because they ain't doing nothing
00:03:49.940 but messing up everybody else 0.90
00:03:51.320 and America is the bully.
00:03:54.240 And it's sad 0.99
00:03:54.920 because they have brainwashed us
00:03:57.020 to think that we was the best country
00:03:58.480 on the planet,
00:03:59.900 when in reality,
00:04:01.020 we're the worst country on the planet.
00:04:03.000 It is just insane
00:04:05.200 because this letter
00:04:06.320 is so well written
00:04:07.900 and so reasonably structured,
00:04:09.820 um,
00:04:11.020 in an argument.
00:04:12.520 Like,
00:04:13.020 you gotta present your findings,
00:04:14.600 you gotta,
00:04:15.180 you know,
00:04:16.260 you gotta state your cause,
00:04:18.660 all that.
00:04:19.540 Like,
00:04:19.860 everything he said
00:04:21.020 was valid.
00:04:22.780 Everything Osama bin Laden
00:04:24.480 said was
00:04:25.100 valid.
00:04:26.820 The guy before saying,
00:04:27.760 we need to stop paying taxes
00:04:28.960 because Osama bin Laden
00:04:30.860 was right.
00:04:31.720 And we're the worst country
00:04:33.460 in the world.
00:04:34.880 Hashtag,
00:04:35.480 uh,
00:04:35.780 Free Palestine.
00:04:36.500 It's at the bottom.
00:04:37.160 I don't know if you noticed that.
00:04:38.360 Look,
00:04:38.540 this is,
00:04:39.860 all of these
00:04:40.820 are young people.
00:04:42.240 This is on,
00:04:42.880 on TikTok.
00:04:44.220 These young people 1.00
00:04:45.220 are profoundly ignorant. 1.00
00:04:46.520 They don't know anything. 1.00
00:04:48.320 But they're also,
00:04:50.800 TikTok is deliberately curated.
00:04:54.120 The algorithm is controlled.
00:04:56.740 The recommendation algorithm
00:04:58.180 is controlled
00:04:59.120 by the Chinese Communist Party.
00:05:00.940 I mentioned the last
00:05:01.760 classified briefing
00:05:02.500 I went to this week,
00:05:03.460 Ben.
00:05:04.060 So the topic of it
00:05:05.500 was social media
00:05:07.520 and disinformation.
00:05:09.100 And so it included
00:05:09.720 a number of,
00:05:10.460 of,
00:05:10.760 uh,
00:05:12.140 folks from the government.
00:05:13.080 This was a joint
00:05:14.100 classified briefing
00:05:15.160 with the Commerce Committee
00:05:16.300 where I'm the ranking Republican
00:05:17.620 and the Intelligence Committee.
00:05:20.040 So we met together.
00:05:21.680 And I can't tell you
00:05:22.980 what they said,
00:05:23.820 but I can't tell you
00:05:24.420 the questions I asked
00:05:25.360 because the questions
00:05:25.980 I asked are not classified.
00:05:27.120 Uh,
00:05:28.320 and the question I asked,
00:05:29.520 I said,
00:05:29.800 what evidence do we have
00:05:30.700 specifically
00:05:31.340 that TikTok
00:05:32.940 is affirmatively
00:05:34.120 and deliberately
00:05:34.900 pushing
00:05:35.640 pro-Hamas propaganda?
00:05:38.120 We know that young people
00:05:39.600 are moving dramatically
00:05:40.960 in,
00:05:41.280 in,
00:05:41.620 in the
00:05:42.120 direction
00:05:43.780 of Hamas.
00:05:47.180 And to what extent
00:05:48.380 is the CCP
00:05:49.140 affirmatively doing that?
00:05:50.340 And I'll tell you something.
00:05:51.400 Again,
00:05:51.820 I can't give you their answers,
00:05:52.920 but I will tell you
00:05:53.700 a data point
00:05:54.420 which is TikTok
00:05:56.220 defends itself
00:05:57.160 by saying it keeps
00:05:58.180 U.S. customer data
00:05:59.400 here in the United States,
00:06:00.500 not in China.
00:06:02.000 Although,
00:06:02.620 under its terms of service,
00:06:03.860 the CCP has a right
00:06:04.760 to access them
00:06:05.480 at any time.
00:06:07.400 You know what it doesn't
00:06:08.460 keep here in the United States?
00:06:10.540 It's recommendation algorithm.
00:06:13.280 So,
00:06:13.700 the way TikTok operates,
00:06:15.120 you're looking at TikTok,
00:06:16.480 you watch a video,
00:06:17.580 and then it suggests to you,
00:06:19.040 hey,
00:06:19.840 Ben,
00:06:20.200 you would like this video.
00:06:21.720 Based on what you've seen
00:06:22.660 before,
00:06:23.060 so if you're looking at
00:06:23.960 golf videos
00:06:24.960 or tennis videos
00:06:25.820 or football videos,
00:06:26.920 you would assume
00:06:27.600 they would keep you
00:06:28.260 in the same type
00:06:28.920 of algorithm.
00:06:29.600 Well,
00:06:30.240 a recommendation algorithm
00:06:31.780 is one of the most
00:06:33.840 potent tools
00:06:35.060 social media has
00:06:36.380 to drive content,
00:06:37.700 to suppress content,
00:06:38.820 or to drive content.
00:06:40.140 And if you're engaged
00:06:41.200 in propaganda,
00:06:42.160 the recommendation algorithm
00:06:43.420 is your most potent tool
00:06:46.060 for it.
00:06:47.220 The recommendation algorithm
00:06:48.460 is not housed
00:06:49.560 in the United States.
00:06:50.400 It's housed in China.
00:06:51.620 And China just recently
00:06:52.640 passed a law
00:06:53.560 that defined
00:06:54.620 TikTok's recommendation
00:06:56.380 algorithm
00:06:57.460 as a,
00:06:59.300 quote,
00:06:59.480 national asset.
00:07:02.040 Makes sense.
00:07:02.980 It is an asset of China,
00:07:04.520 and they have developed
00:07:05.880 a global propaganda tool
00:07:07.960 that in particular
00:07:09.180 targets American young people.
00:07:11.580 And so they can decide
00:07:12.920 on any given day
00:07:13.820 what message do we want
00:07:15.080 to put to young people.
00:07:16.460 They can just,
00:07:17.120 on a Tuesday say,
00:07:19.140 let's just push messages
00:07:20.360 that hurt American
00:07:21.340 young people.
00:07:21.940 So let's push
00:07:24.020 to young girls
00:07:24.860 and teenage girls 0.96
00:07:25.800 body image problems
00:07:27.480 and push anorexia
00:07:28.540 and eating disorders
00:07:29.380 and let's push
00:07:30.120 self-harm,
00:07:31.240 let's push cutting, 0.88
00:07:32.140 let's push suicide,
00:07:33.520 let's push drug use,
00:07:34.740 let's push all sorts
00:07:36.220 of things that will just
00:07:37.060 hurt young people.
00:07:38.160 And they do that
00:07:39.040 tragically every day.
00:07:41.860 But they can also
00:07:42.600 decide politically,
00:07:43.780 okay,
00:07:44.280 we don't want the United States
00:07:46.040 exploring for oil and gas,
00:07:47.380 so let's push 0.98
00:07:48.160 Green New Deal garbage 0.99
00:07:49.740 to tell them, 1.00
00:07:50.700 go stop fracking,
00:07:51.700 go stop this,
00:07:52.540 go stop this,
00:07:53.540 be dependent on Iran, 0.98
00:07:55.720 be dependent on Russia, 0.89
00:07:56.820 be dependent on Venezuela,
00:07:58.240 be dependent on our enemies
00:07:59.420 for oil and gas.
00:08:00.720 They can push that message
00:08:01.980 to young people.
00:08:02.940 Or if they just want
00:08:04.660 to push pro-Hamas 0.88
00:08:07.780 propaganda,
00:08:08.760 they can.
00:08:09.760 In this instance,
00:08:10.580 you have young people.
00:08:12.240 And this went viral
00:08:13.100 to a level of millions
00:08:14.060 and millions
00:08:14.600 and millions
00:08:15.120 of impressions.
00:08:16.700 Over 14 million
00:08:17.720 last I saw.
00:08:18.440 Yeah,
00:08:18.680 and that's just people
00:08:19.540 that were posting
00:08:20.080 their own videos
00:08:20.580 after reading this letter
00:08:22.000 that came out of nowhere
00:08:23.880 from 2001
00:08:26.200 from Osama bin Laden
00:08:27.680 and the majority of it
00:08:29.140 was all positive
00:08:30.400 towards Osama bin Laden.
00:08:31.220 And you've got to
00:08:31.860 understand why.
00:08:32.860 I mean,
00:08:33.060 this is something,
00:08:34.260 as you know,
00:08:34.860 I'm at the tail end
00:08:36.400 of a two-week book tour,
00:08:37.500 so I've been,
00:08:38.500 I think I've done
00:08:39.200 77 media interviews
00:08:40.980 in the last two weeks
00:08:42.040 on the new book
00:08:43.220 on Woke.
00:08:43.620 I've been talking
00:08:44.220 about this a lot
00:08:45.140 because particularly
00:08:46.780 people of the left
00:08:48.040 are confused.
00:08:49.220 Why is there such
00:08:50.460 vicious anti-Semitism
00:08:53.400 among the left?
00:08:54.540 Yeah.
00:08:55.060 And I want to,
00:08:55.920 let's pull this up again.
00:08:57.160 I want to pull it up
00:08:57.880 and freeze it
00:08:58.400 midway through
00:08:59.020 because it really does
00:09:01.240 explain it profoundly.
00:09:03.460 Okay,
00:09:05.840 so this is the first woman
00:09:06.900 on the second person.
00:09:07.940 Just freeze it
00:09:08.580 when the second person
00:09:09.440 comes up.
00:09:10.700 Okay,
00:09:11.200 freeze it right here.
00:09:12.760 All right,
00:09:13.760 so this is a TikToker
00:09:15.520 and it's kind of
00:09:16.240 a young hipster
00:09:17.400 wearing like,
00:09:18.220 I don't know,
00:09:18.540 a shower cap
00:09:19.440 of some kind
00:09:20.280 with curls.
00:09:21.780 He's going swimming
00:09:22.620 afterwards, right?
00:09:23.320 I don't know.
00:09:24.800 But this is important.
00:09:26.860 So I've been explaining
00:09:28.100 and the book
00:09:28.840 Unwoke explains this
00:09:30.080 at depth.
00:09:31.740 So Marxism
00:09:32.620 is the doctrine
00:09:34.280 enunciated by Karl Marx
00:09:35.940 in the Communist Manifesto
00:09:37.160 that explains,
00:09:38.740 views the world
00:09:39.620 as a fundamental conflict
00:09:40.880 between oppressors
00:09:41.760 and victims.
00:09:43.200 Marx put it
00:09:43.700 in socioeconomic terms
00:09:44.840 so the oppressors
00:09:45.580 were the owners of capital,
00:09:47.000 the victims
00:09:47.680 were the proletariat,
00:09:49.060 the working men and women.
00:09:50.000 The solution
00:09:51.340 Marx advocated
00:09:52.500 was violent revolution
00:09:54.840 by the proletariat
00:09:55.960 overthrowing
00:09:56.920 the oppressors.
00:09:58.320 I describe
00:10:00.880 in the book
00:10:02.100 Unwoke
00:10:02.600 how Marxists
00:10:04.260 infiltrated
00:10:04.880 the universities
00:10:05.580 in the 1960s
00:10:06.660 and 70s
00:10:07.360 and then
00:10:07.760 that doctrine
00:10:08.920 mutated.
00:10:09.580 It mutated
00:10:10.120 to critical race theory
00:10:11.340 which has the same
00:10:12.740 basic frame,
00:10:13.780 the Marxist frame
00:10:14.620 of oppressor
00:10:15.220 and victim
00:10:15.620 but instead
00:10:16.960 of socioeconomic
00:10:18.020 it's race 0.85
00:10:18.600 so there are
00:10:19.060 oppressor races
00:10:19.720 and victim races.
00:10:21.560 I describe
00:10:22.220 how it mutated
00:10:23.280 to be gender
00:10:24.060 and gender identity
00:10:25.100 and sexual orientation.
00:10:26.380 Same idea
00:10:27.620 of oppressor
00:10:28.320 and victim
00:10:28.740 and the idea
00:10:29.380 is violence,
00:10:31.320 revolution,
00:10:32.240 anything is justified
00:10:33.520 if it is the victim
00:10:34.900 overthrowing the oppressor.
00:10:36.220 Now this TikTok video
00:10:37.840 the text
00:10:38.540 of the tweet
00:10:39.580 he has
00:10:40.080 says
00:10:40.480 under settler
00:10:42.440 colonialism
00:10:43.320 any kind
00:10:45.080 of resistance
00:10:45.760 is branded
00:10:47.300 as terrorism
00:10:48.240 because the only
00:10:50.240 acceptable violence
00:10:51.600 is violence
00:10:52.360 by the occupier.
00:10:53.880 That is straight up
00:10:55.120 Marxism.
00:10:55.680 And it is
00:10:56.980 explaining why
00:10:58.240 as I told
00:10:59.060 this left-leaning
00:10:59.960 tech executive
00:11:00.820 the reason
00:11:02.160 the left
00:11:02.740 is celebrating
00:11:03.520 Hamas 0.96
00:11:04.120 is they have
00:11:05.980 defined Jews 0.69
00:11:07.340 as oppressors. 0.96
00:11:08.820 They have
00:11:09.720 defined Hamas
00:11:11.040 as victims
00:11:11.880 and so
00:11:13.460 they're in favor
00:11:14.340 of violence
00:11:15.080 by the victims
00:11:16.000 against the impressors
00:11:17.500 and that includes
00:11:18.740 mass murder
00:11:19.440 that includes
00:11:20.400 targeting civilians
00:11:21.340 that includes 0.95
00:11:21.980 murdering elderly people 0.99
00:11:23.140 that includes 1.00
00:11:24.100 raping women 1.00
00:11:25.140 and little girls 0.60
00:11:26.140 in the public streets
00:11:27.120 that includes
00:11:27.940 slaughtering infants
00:11:29.200 that includes
00:11:29.840 as we discussed
00:11:30.700 literally
00:11:33.700 putting a baby
00:11:36.380 in an oven 1.00
00:11:37.820 and raping 1.00
00:11:40.380 that baby's 1.00
00:11:41.520 mother
00:11:41.960 while the baby
00:11:44.400 cooks to death
00:11:45.260 and the mother 1.00
00:11:47.240 is being raped 0.99
00:11:48.280 and listening 1.00
00:11:49.860 to her infant
00:11:51.200 die 0.99
00:11:52.280 in an oven 0.93
00:11:53.380 being cooked
00:11:54.520 to death. 0.75
00:11:55.080 Now that is
00:11:55.660 unmitigated evil
00:11:56.860 that is Nazi 0.76
00:11:58.460 like that is a level 0.97
00:12:00.320 of grotesque evil
00:12:01.420 that
00:12:01.700 defies words
00:12:04.800 and yet
00:12:05.500 to the cultural
00:12:07.640 Marxist
00:12:08.280 and to these
00:12:08.900 young
00:12:09.500 idealistic 1.00
00:12:10.600 imbeciles 1.00
00:12:11.540 they're cheering 1.00
00:12:13.120 for the terrorist
00:12:14.140 why?
00:12:15.060 Because it says here
00:12:15.780 well under settler
00:12:16.680 colonialism
00:12:17.340 and mind you
00:12:17.960 in their mind
00:12:18.520 it's the Jews 1.00
00:12:19.820 that are the bad 1.00
00:12:20.720 settler
00:12:21.200 colonialists
00:12:22.220 any kind
00:12:23.720 of resistance
00:12:24.660 so you know
00:12:25.800 baking a baby
00:12:26.540 in an oven
00:12:26.920 that's a kind
00:12:27.800 of resistance
00:12:28.420 is branded
00:12:30.520 as terrorist
00:12:31.660 well no
00:12:32.160 terrorism
00:12:32.680 is targeting
00:12:33.280 civilians
00:12:33.860 I've got to say 0.99
00:12:34.880 slaughtering infants
00:12:35.820 qualifies as terrorism
00:12:37.060 because the only
00:12:38.860 acceptable violence
00:12:40.140 is violence
00:12:41.760 by the occupier
00:12:43.400 the reason
00:12:44.540 these young people
00:12:45.460 are so susceptible
00:12:46.400 to this
00:12:47.320 TikTok propaganda
00:12:48.720 is because
00:12:50.420 cultural Marxism
00:12:51.900 has been taught
00:12:52.900 to them
00:12:53.460 from the womb
00:12:55.000 has been taught
00:12:55.780 to them
00:12:56.240 in kindergarten
00:12:57.200 first, second, third, 0.70
00:12:58.360 fourth, fifth grade
00:12:59.080 all the way
00:12:59.920 through school
00:13:00.460 has been taught
00:13:01.080 to them
00:13:01.480 in college
00:13:02.460 has been taught
00:13:03.180 to them
00:13:03.620 through social media
00:13:04.800 has been taught
00:13:05.400 to them
00:13:05.760 through entertainment
00:13:06.800 they're told
00:13:07.800 once we say
00:13:09.120 someone is the victim
00:13:10.160 and someone is the oppressor
00:13:11.760 we cheer
00:13:13.040 for violence
00:13:13.960 for any
00:13:15.160 horrible evil
00:13:17.060 against the oppressor
00:13:18.360 because that's
00:13:19.360 the Marxist revolution
00:13:20.320 we support
00:13:20.920 now if you want to hear
00:13:22.300 the rest of this conversation
00:13:23.820 you can go back
00:13:24.800 and listen to the full podcast
00:13:26.400 from earlier this week
00:13:27.620 Canadian women
00:13:29.080 are looking for more
00:13:30.140 more out of themselves
00:13:31.220 their businesses
00:13:32.060 their elected leaders
00:13:33.180 and the world around them
00:13:34.400 and that's why
00:13:35.040 we're thrilled
00:13:35.540 to introduce
00:13:36.200 the Honest Talk podcast
00:13:37.680 I'm Jennifer Stewart
00:13:39.220 and I'm Catherine Clark
00:13:40.440 and in this podcast
00:13:41.520 we interview Canada's
00:13:42.840 most inspiring women
00:13:44.120 entrepreneurs
00:13:44.680 artists
00:13:45.580 athletes
00:13:46.240 politicians
00:13:46.880 and newsmakers
00:13:47.760 all at different stages
00:13:49.080 of their journey
00:13:49.920 so if you're looking
00:13:51.240 to connect
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00:13:57.520 now on to story number two
00:14:00.920 Biden's infrastructure spending
00:14:03.580 has now gone woke
00:14:05.700 it's a great moment
00:14:07.640 to pause
00:14:08.180 and remind people
00:14:09.120 if you're Black Friday shopping
00:14:10.780 grab the senator's new book
00:14:12.200 Unwoke
00:14:12.920 you can grab it
00:14:14.300 it's a best seller
00:14:15.160 you can get it on Amazon
00:14:15.940 or wherever you get your books
00:14:17.260 unless you're at a bookstore
00:14:18.100 in California
00:14:18.720 apparently they don't like it
00:14:19.800 very much out there
00:14:20.640 in California
00:14:21.300 in the bookstores
00:14:21.940 but you can grab it
00:14:23.300 wherever you get your books
00:14:24.660 I love this part of censorship
00:14:26.400 by the way senator
00:14:27.080 there are quite a few bookstores
00:14:29.360 I've actually
00:14:30.220 talked to friends
00:14:31.520 who have gone into bookstores
00:14:32.840 your book's a best seller
00:14:34.140 and if you're in the wrong
00:14:35.580 part of the country
00:14:36.380 in a more liberal
00:14:37.060 woke part of the country
00:14:37.880 there's a very good chance
00:14:38.940 you cannot find a hard copy
00:14:40.340 of your book in a bookstore
00:14:41.340 which is maddening to me
00:14:43.360 especially since
00:14:44.120 this is a best seller
00:14:44.900 well it is one of the many examples
00:14:48.120 how corporate America
00:14:49.200 is woke
00:14:50.440 as you know
00:14:51.220 two weeks ago
00:14:52.620 I was in LA
00:14:53.320 to shoot Bill Maher
00:14:54.560 and talk about the book
00:14:55.540 and I actually
00:14:56.480 met some friends in LA
00:14:58.540 who went to try to buy the book
00:15:00.300 and they went to a Barnes & Noble
00:15:02.020 in LA
00:15:02.620 and they didn't have a single copy
00:15:04.340 of the book there
00:15:05.020 and they asked them
00:15:05.740 okay search the system
00:15:06.880 and they
00:15:07.740 it turned out
00:15:08.880 there was not
00:15:09.640 one copy of my book
00:15:11.320 this is what they were told
00:15:12.700 in any Barnes & Noble
00:15:15.340 in the entire city
00:15:16.640 of Los Angeles
00:15:17.400 and they had to actually
00:15:19.300 drive to Long Beach
00:15:20.560 which they did
00:15:21.380 to get several copies
00:15:23.260 of the books
00:15:23.720 because it was only
00:15:24.620 the Barnes & Noble
00:15:25.400 in Long Beach
00:15:26.120 that had the copies
00:15:27.060 and throughout LA
00:15:28.500 they weren't there
00:15:29.200 sadly we're hearing
00:15:30.580 we're hearing reports of that
00:15:32.360 there was also a letter
00:15:33.280 to the editor
00:15:34.360 this past week
00:15:35.300 in the Dallas Morning News
00:15:37.500 complaining that
00:15:38.280 the big box stores
00:15:39.280 which have lots and lots
00:15:40.660 of books
00:15:41.880 of other books
00:15:42.760 that you can't find
00:15:44.800 unwoke
00:15:45.820 even though
00:15:46.340 as you note
00:15:46.920 it is a best seller
00:15:48.320 it was at the top
00:15:49.040 of the best seller list
00:15:49.980 and yet
00:15:50.500 the major
00:15:51.680 bricks and mortar
00:15:52.420 retail outlets
00:15:53.520 are very reluctant
00:15:55.040 to carry it
00:15:55.580 and when they do carry it
00:15:56.540 they certainly don't
00:15:57.240 put it out on the table
00:15:58.180 in front
00:15:58.560 they put it off
00:15:59.200 in the back
00:15:59.660 the good news is
00:16:00.840 you can order it online
00:16:02.000 so I would encourage
00:16:03.460 you go online
00:16:04.300 and order it
00:16:04.960 and you mentioned
00:16:05.940 what came out
00:16:08.320 this past week
00:16:09.220 and what came out
00:16:10.060 this past week
00:16:10.900 also is
00:16:12.400 racist roads
00:16:15.440 and woke infrastructure
00:16:16.660 which may sound absurd
00:16:18.020 but it's something I discuss
00:16:19.220 at considerable length
00:16:20.780 in the book on woke
00:16:21.940 and in June
00:16:24.080 Transportation Secretary
00:16:26.840 Pete Buttigieg
00:16:27.620 announced that
00:16:29.140 the Department of Transportation
00:16:30.360 had started accepting
00:16:31.380 applications
00:16:32.080 for the National
00:16:33.600 Infrastructure Project
00:16:34.960 Assistance
00:16:35.880 Infrastructure for Rebuilding
00:16:38.400 America
00:16:39.060 and the Rural Surface
00:16:40.460 Transportation
00:16:41.180 Grant Programs
00:16:42.200 these three programs
00:16:44.260 together
00:16:44.820 received
00:16:46.400 $5.6 billion
00:16:48.820 under the so-called
00:16:50.960 Infrastructure Investment
00:16:52.320 and Jobs Act
00:16:53.280 and
00:16:54.500 the Department of Transportation
00:16:56.540 under Buttigieg
00:16:57.220 said the grants
00:16:58.900 that would be awarded
00:16:59.800 would support
00:17:00.620 quote
00:17:01.040 transformational
00:17:02.720 infrastructure projects
00:17:04.080 across the nation
00:17:05.080 but the notice
00:17:06.720 of funding opportunity
00:17:07.960 issued
00:17:09.220 states that
00:17:10.100 recipients
00:17:10.600 must
00:17:11.780 broadly address
00:17:13.740 quote
00:17:14.200 equity
00:17:14.820 and climate
00:17:16.560 concerns
00:17:17.240 and further
00:17:18.680 it says
00:17:19.180 quote
00:17:19.540 projects
00:17:21.040 that have not
00:17:21.700 sufficiently
00:17:22.180 considered
00:17:22.700 the equity
00:17:23.240 and barriers
00:17:23.840 to opportunity
00:17:24.520 in their planning
00:17:25.200 as determined
00:17:26.700 by the department
00:17:27.560 will be required
00:17:29.080 to do so
00:17:29.720 before receiving
00:17:30.460 funds for construction
00:17:31.480 quote
00:17:33.220 projects that have
00:17:34.460 not sufficiently
00:17:35.180 considered climate
00:17:36.100 change
00:17:36.640 and environmental
00:17:37.700 justice in their
00:17:38.580 planning
00:17:38.940 as determined
00:17:40.260 by the department
00:17:40.980 will be required
00:17:42.360 to do so
00:17:42.980 before receiving
00:17:43.780 funds for construction
00:17:44.860 now mind you
00:17:46.340 what they're saying
00:17:47.220 is if you're actually
00:17:48.580 building roads
00:17:49.440 if you're actually
00:17:50.120 building freeways
00:17:51.280 then that is
00:17:53.260 is not sufficient
00:17:54.400 and in fact
00:17:55.360 Pete Buttigieg
00:17:56.540 made news
00:17:58.440 in 2021
00:17:59.120 when he said
00:18:00.100 quote
00:18:00.480 there is racism
00:18:02.080 physically built
00:18:03.860 into some of our highways
00:18:05.320 now
00:18:06.120 that is 1.00
00:18:06.980 idiotic 1.00
00:18:08.280 and 1.00
00:18:09.160 and I would note
00:18:10.440 that the DOT
00:18:12.600 grants
00:18:13.500 also
00:18:14.260 additionally
00:18:15.080 target
00:18:15.720 so DOT
00:18:16.840 policies
00:18:17.600 frame
00:18:18.260 road building
00:18:19.520 here's what they call
00:18:20.200 road building
00:18:20.780 quote
00:18:21.860 increasing
00:18:23.220 automobile
00:18:24.120 dependence
00:18:25.380 and so
00:18:26.840 they condemn
00:18:27.560 highway expansion
00:18:28.440 projects
00:18:28.980 that don't involve
00:18:30.020 electric vehicle
00:18:31.280 charging stations
00:18:32.260 or bike lanes
00:18:33.160 so it is
00:18:33.900 remember there was
00:18:34.860 a lot of hoopla
00:18:35.620 over all the money
00:18:36.660 to be spent
00:18:37.240 on infrastructure
00:18:38.040 and roads
00:18:38.560 and bridges
00:18:39.060 oh yeah
00:18:39.960 well it turns out
00:18:41.200 Joe Biden
00:18:41.760 and Kamala Harris
00:18:42.460 and Pete Buttigieg
00:18:43.160 don't actually want
00:18:44.140 roads and bridges
00:18:44.960 instead they have
00:18:46.300 a woke agenda
00:18:47.080 now here's the good news
00:18:48.100 which is
00:18:49.520 that I sent
00:18:50.820 I sent
00:18:54.200 a request
00:18:54.900 for a determination
00:18:55.780 as to whether
00:18:57.780 this
00:18:58.280 this announcement
00:18:59.640 constitutes
00:19:00.380 a rule
00:19:01.400 and
00:19:04.500 receive that
00:19:06.100 determination
00:19:06.600 which means
00:19:07.940 which means
00:19:07.960 that it is
00:19:09.260 subject
00:19:09.700 to being
00:19:11.760 overturned
00:19:12.820 by Congress
00:19:13.560 by a simple
00:19:14.400 majority vote
00:19:15.300 and so
00:19:15.880 I intend
00:19:16.940 to introduce
00:19:17.680 that resolution
00:19:19.380 of disapproval
00:19:20.320 to force a vote
00:19:22.500 in the Senate
00:19:23.020 now Biden
00:19:23.580 can veto that vote
00:19:24.740 but in the Senate
00:19:26.160 we're going to see
00:19:27.060 if all the people
00:19:28.760 who trumpeted
00:19:29.320 the infrastructure
00:19:30.020 program
00:19:30.660 support
00:19:31.360 blocking them
00:19:33.100 from going
00:19:33.660 to roads
00:19:34.180 and bridges
00:19:34.700 unless they are
00:19:36.060 sufficiently woke
00:19:37.260 and fighting
00:19:38.540 racist roads 0.84
00:19:39.760 whatever the hell
00:19:40.360 that is
00:19:40.880 when people
00:19:42.600 hear this
00:19:43.380 and they hear
00:19:43.900 racist roads
00:19:44.920 as you just
00:19:45.400 described it there
00:19:46.280 and you talk
00:19:47.180 about billions
00:19:47.720 upon billions
00:19:48.420 of taxpayers
00:19:49.040 dollars
00:19:49.560 that's meant
00:19:50.540 for these
00:19:50.980 infrastructure
00:19:51.420 projects
00:19:52.240 that are now
00:19:53.320 just being
00:19:53.860 turned into
00:19:54.320 these woke
00:19:54.700 agenda items
00:19:56.080 how many
00:19:57.060 members of
00:19:57.700 Congress
00:19:58.200 are behind
00:19:59.180 this
00:19:59.780 as well
00:20:00.660 because yes
00:20:01.300 it's a Biden
00:20:02.020 administration
00:20:02.720 initiative
00:20:03.860 but you still
00:20:04.620 got to have
00:20:05.120 some Congress
00:20:05.800 people behind
00:20:06.600 you
00:20:06.960 is this
00:20:07.780 just the part
00:20:08.800 of now
00:20:09.200 where we are
00:20:09.780 in politics
00:20:10.360 where they'll
00:20:10.940 look at you
00:20:11.520 they'll say
00:20:12.020 this is for
00:20:12.540 infrastructure
00:20:13.100 straight up
00:20:14.180 lie to you
00:20:14.700 and then waste
00:20:15.300 billions of
00:20:16.000 your dollars
00:20:16.480 on woke
00:20:17.000 agenda
00:20:17.340 items like
00:20:18.020 this
00:20:18.440 well listen
00:20:19.460 a lot of
00:20:19.880 the left-wing
00:20:20.360 Democrats
00:20:20.880 in Congress
00:20:21.460 are emphatically
00:20:22.200 behind this
00:20:22.940 so that Bernie
00:20:23.660 Sanders
00:20:24.140 the Elizabeth
00:20:24.700 Warrens
00:20:25.260 the AOCs
00:20:26.220 are cheering
00:20:27.540 this on
00:20:28.160 because this
00:20:28.660 is the agenda
00:20:29.320 they want
00:20:29.920 I will say
00:20:31.320 there are a
00:20:31.780 number of
00:20:32.200 Republicans
00:20:32.660 who
00:20:33.300 you know
00:20:35.020 are a little
00:20:35.460 bit like
00:20:35.840 Charlie Brown
00:20:36.500 with Lucy
00:20:36.980 and the
00:20:37.220 football
00:20:37.520 they listen
00:20:38.620 to Democrats
00:20:39.300 who say
00:20:39.620 okay let's
00:20:40.240 work together
00:20:40.820 on something
00:20:41.300 like roads
00:20:41.800 and bridges
00:20:42.220 and the
00:20:42.460 Republicans
00:20:42.760 are like
00:20:43.060 oh yeah
00:20:43.520 roads and
00:20:44.240 bridges
00:20:44.460 those sound
00:20:44.920 really good
00:20:45.440 and they
00:20:46.360 write into
00:20:47.120 law
00:20:47.980 funding for
00:20:49.640 roads and
00:20:50.100 bridges
00:20:50.440 now the
00:20:51.460 left-wing
00:20:51.860 Democrats
00:20:52.380 they're
00:20:52.580 negotiating
00:20:53.120 with know
00:20:53.620 fully well
00:20:54.200 they're
00:20:54.480 pulling the
00:20:54.920 football away
00:20:55.720 and Charlie
00:20:56.620 Brown is 0.99
00:20:57.120 landing on 1.00
00:20:57.540 his ass 1.00
00:20:58.000 they know 1.00
00:20:58.460 that
00:20:58.840 but these
00:20:59.700 Republicans
00:21:00.280 are just 0.96
00:21:00.760 gullible
00:21:01.320 and they
00:21:01.640 fall into
00:21:02.280 it over
00:21:02.840 and over
00:21:03.320 and over
00:21:03.660 again
00:21:03.860 and if
00:21:04.380 they weren't
00:21:04.900 gullible
00:21:05.360 they would
00:21:06.420 have written
00:21:06.860 into the
00:21:07.400 statute
00:21:07.860 prohibitions
00:21:09.020 on the
00:21:09.780 Biden
00:21:10.020 administration
00:21:10.500 doing this
00:21:11.320 because you
00:21:11.680 and I
00:21:12.020 knew the
00:21:12.860 Biden
00:21:13.120 administration
00:21:13.640 was going
00:21:14.100 to do
00:21:14.380 this because
00:21:14.840 that's who
00:21:15.460 they are
00:21:16.060 they are
00:21:17.200 cultural
00:21:17.780 Marxists
00:21:18.320 it's why I
00:21:19.380 wrote the
00:21:19.760 book
00:21:20.020 unwoke to
00:21:21.200 lay out
00:21:21.920 what it
00:21:22.460 means
00:21:23.260 the radicals
00:21:24.800 who have
00:21:25.020 taken over
00:21:25.560 our government
00:21:26.160 and we have
00:21:26.660 too many
00:21:27.120 Republicans
00:21:27.680 in Congress
00:21:28.340 who are
00:21:29.180 fundamentally
00:21:29.960 naive
00:21:30.560 and they
00:21:31.560 just keep
00:21:32.120 running and
00:21:32.540 trying to
00:21:32.900 kick that 1.00
00:21:33.280 football
00:21:33.700 and the
00:21:34.800 problem
00:21:35.060 keeps getting
00:21:35.580 worse and
00:21:35.980 worse
00:21:36.260 as before
00:21:37.620 if you want
00:21:38.240 to hear the
00:21:38.580 rest of this
00:21:39.020 conversation
00:21:39.680 on this
00:21:40.420 topic
00:21:40.800 you can go
00:21:41.360 back and
00:21:41.840 download the
00:21:42.360 podcast from
00:21:43.200 early this
00:21:43.660 week to hear
00:21:44.120 the entire
00:21:44.640 thing
00:21:45.120 Canadian
00:21:46.680 women are 1.00
00:21:47.180 looking for
00:21:47.680 more
00:21:48.060 more out of
00:21:48.680 themselves
00:21:49.120 their
00:21:49.500 businesses
00:21:49.980 their elected
00:21:50.740 leaders
00:21:51.100 and the
00:21:51.680 world around
00:21:52.120 them
00:21:52.320 and that's
00:21:52.840 why we're
00:21:53.140 thrilled to
00:21:53.660 introduce the
00:21:54.480 honest talk
00:21:55.140 podcast
00:21:55.800 I'm Jennifer
00:21:56.740 Stewart
00:21:57.140 and I'm
00:21:57.720 Catherine Clark
00:21:58.380 and in this
00:21:59.100 podcast we
00:21:59.920 interview Canada's
00:22:00.760 most inspiring
00:22:01.620 women 1.00
00:22:02.040 entrepreneurs
00:22:02.620 artists
00:22:03.520 athletes
00:22:04.160 politicians
00:22:04.800 and newsmakers
00:22:05.680 all at
00:22:06.360 different stages
00:22:07.000 of their
00:22:07.520 journey
00:22:07.840 so if you're
00:22:08.900 looking to
00:22:09.340 connect then we
00:22:10.180 hope you'll
00:22:10.560 join us
00:22:11.140 listen to the
00:22:11.780 honest talk
00:22:12.240 podcast on
00:22:12.960 iHeartRadio or
00:22:13.960 wherever you
00:22:14.520 listen to your
00:22:14.940 podcasts
00:22:15.440 i want to get
00:22:17.680 back to the
00:22:18.360 big story number
00:22:19.480 three of the
00:22:19.960 week you may
00:22:20.460 have missed
00:22:20.920 you mentioned
00:22:22.580 education and
00:22:24.740 and how it's
00:22:25.360 easiest way to
00:22:25.980 change a country
00:22:26.800 in one generation
00:22:27.840 but there was
00:22:28.900 also one of the
00:22:30.040 things you said
00:22:30.580 on page 64
00:22:31.380 it says how to
00:22:31.900 fight back
00:22:32.380 you said a few
00:22:32.920 years ago you
00:22:33.660 walked in to
00:22:34.700 your daughter's
00:22:35.360 bedroom and
00:22:35.900 asked what
00:22:36.960 she'd been
00:22:37.380 learning about
00:22:37.920 in school
00:22:38.340 she said she
00:22:39.140 had been
00:22:39.400 learning about
00:22:40.060 Christopher
00:22:40.400 Columbus
00:22:40.880 the quote
00:22:41.920 unquote real
00:22:42.480 story i asked
00:22:43.680 what that meant
00:22:44.480 for the next
00:22:45.320 few minutes i
00:22:45.980 heard about the
00:22:46.700 crimes of
00:22:47.400 Christopher Columbus
00:22:48.220 in minute detail
00:22:50.240 every murdered native 0.98
00:22:51.440 american transmitted
00:22:52.660 disease and stolen
00:22:53.760 acre of land
00:22:54.580 seemed to be
00:22:55.100 accounted for
00:22:55.820 i heard that
00:22:56.940 columbus who
00:22:57.720 claimed the land
00:22:58.420 for himself
00:22:59.000 because he
00:22:59.740 his straight
00:23:00.960 white privilege
00:23:01.740 or something like
00:23:02.500 that had not
00:23:03.700 actually discovered
00:23:04.460 anything at all
00:23:05.500 but rather had
00:23:06.380 landed on the
00:23:07.820 shores of what
00:23:08.700 would come to be
00:23:10.000 known as america
00:23:11.160 by accident
00:23:12.200 this quote
00:23:13.320 unquote revolution
00:23:14.260 familiar to most
00:23:15.640 adults in the
00:23:16.300 united states is
00:23:16.940 something that
00:23:17.380 american children
00:23:18.160 encounter sooner or
00:23:19.100 later in a
00:23:20.080 textbook believing
00:23:21.040 that they've
00:23:22.600 accessed some
00:23:24.040 secret hidden
00:23:25.120 knowledge that the
00:23:26.060 grown-ups don't
00:23:26.920 want them to have
00:23:27.860 that moment for me
00:23:30.240 is the moment that
00:23:31.120 terrifies me for our
00:23:32.360 kids in this my
00:23:33.520 kids generation is 0.53
00:23:34.520 that we have we
00:23:35.960 have handed our
00:23:36.720 children over to
00:23:37.420 this school systems
00:23:38.260 and it's not just
00:23:39.200 public schools now
00:23:40.260 it's private schools
00:23:41.140 as well who are
00:23:42.460 indoctrinating them
00:23:43.420 in this idea that
00:23:44.480 america somehow was
00:23:45.760 started on on on
00:23:47.900 evil bad motives and
00:23:50.500 that you should not
00:23:51.220 love this country but
00:23:52.920 you should be ashamed
00:23:53.700 of this country and
00:23:54.700 you had to deal with
00:23:55.600 this with your own
00:23:56.120 daughter look that's 0.98
00:23:57.600 exactly right and the
00:23:58.560 problem is this
00:23:59.560 indoctrination is
00:24:00.640 happening in every
00:24:01.500 school in america it's
00:24:02.620 happening to every
00:24:03.360 child in america and
00:24:05.060 and and what i
00:24:05.760 described part of the
00:24:06.520 way that this book is
00:24:07.420 all about how we
00:24:08.080 fight back but you
00:24:09.020 know as she was
00:24:09.600 saying that columbus 0.89
00:24:11.280 was evil and racist 0.97
00:24:13.000 and genocidal and 0.99
00:24:14.120 terrible and she 0.99
00:24:14.740 hated christopher
00:24:15.540 columbus you know i
00:24:17.280 just just sat down in
00:24:18.320 her bedroom and i
00:24:18.920 tried to have a
00:24:19.300 conversation with her
00:24:20.000 and i said look i'm
00:24:21.480 not deeply vested in
00:24:23.280 making the argument
00:24:24.260 that christopher
00:24:24.860 columbus was some
00:24:25.900 incredible hero but
00:24:27.840 but i said you know
00:24:28.620 what we do have a
00:24:30.260 federal holiday named
00:24:32.360 after him do we
00:24:34.260 typically name federal
00:24:36.020 holidays after evil 0.76
00:24:38.320 racist genocidal 1.00
00:24:39.380 maniacs like 1.00
00:24:41.200 might there be 0.98
00:24:43.180 another side of the
00:24:44.000 story is there
00:24:44.600 anything admirable
00:24:45.820 about him and
00:24:46.600 and she was not not
00:24:47.620 really able to see
00:24:48.620 much that was
00:24:49.660 admirable i said well
00:24:50.420 what do you think
00:24:51.440 about getting in
00:24:52.160 three rickety rickety
00:24:53.800 wooden ships and and
00:24:55.440 and leaving europe and
00:24:56.740 and heading heading
00:24:58.560 west when you think
00:24:59.700 you're falling off the
00:25:00.680 edge of the world to
00:25:02.420 to explore and
00:25:03.800 discover i mean i
00:25:04.700 mean is that spirit
00:25:05.900 that intrepid spirit
00:25:07.100 is that anything to
00:25:08.440 be admired and and
00:25:09.460 and i said secondly
00:25:10.580 look it is true that
00:25:13.440 columbus and and and
00:25:15.000 the men who traveled
00:25:15.780 with him that that
00:25:16.820 that they carried
00:25:18.220 some some germs that
00:25:19.840 that were that were
00:25:21.920 new to to the to the
00:25:24.080 western hemisphere that
00:25:25.020 when they got here some
00:25:25.980 of the some of the
00:25:27.000 native americans died
00:25:28.020 from those germs now
00:25:29.660 it's also true it was
00:25:30.400 the 15th century they
00:25:31.340 didn't know what a
00:25:31.800 germ was so they 0.95
00:25:33.080 didn't know they were
00:25:33.780 carrying it and and
00:25:35.040 when you accuse him of
00:25:36.220 mass murder does
00:25:38.700 culpability matter does
00:25:40.020 the fact that they
00:25:40.780 didn't know what a
00:25:41.440 germ was they had no
00:25:42.360 idea they were doing
00:25:43.240 it is that at all
00:25:44.520 relevant if you're
00:25:45.420 going to call him this
00:25:46.400 evil terrible murder
00:25:47.420 and and when i talk
00:25:48.560 about in the book is
00:25:50.240 not long thereafter
00:25:51.320 which thanksgiving of
00:25:52.460 that year we were
00:25:53.100 talking about
00:25:53.540 thanksgiving and she
00:25:54.720 and a friend of hers
00:25:55.420 from school and this
00:25:55.980 is when they were in
00:25:56.440 grade school said
00:25:57.860 said likewise oh
00:25:58.680 thanksgiving is is
00:25:59.820 is terrible it's when
00:26:00.980 the pilgrims were
00:26:01.820 oppressing the the
00:26:02.840 native americans and
00:26:05.080 and you know again i i
00:26:06.420 made the argument i
00:26:07.320 think even more
00:26:07.820 vigorously this time and
00:26:08.920 i said i said listen
00:26:09.880 it is certainly right
00:26:12.460 that the settlers that
00:26:13.400 came to america that
00:26:14.480 they settled america and
00:26:16.560 and and and they
00:26:17.580 ultimately conquered
00:26:19.140 america and and and
00:26:20.240 they they committed some
00:26:22.220 terrible acts to native 1.00
00:26:23.400 americans but if you
00:26:25.220 look at the history of
00:26:26.180 humanity in in every
00:26:27.500 continent every
00:26:29.420 nation was acquired
00:26:31.900 by conquest and
00:26:33.100 every time there's
00:26:33.700 conquest you have one
00:26:34.820 group of people who
00:26:35.560 are conquering another
00:26:36.380 group of people by the
00:26:37.260 way in the united
00:26:39.140 states before we were
00:26:40.540 the united states the
00:26:41.620 native americans one
00:26:42.620 tribe conquered another
00:26:43.620 conquered another
00:26:44.260 conquered another and
00:26:45.140 you look at europe you
00:26:45.880 look at asia that's the 1.00
00:26:46.940 history of humanity one
00:26:47.900 group of people
00:26:48.340 conquering another and
00:26:49.600 anytime you have
00:26:50.420 conquest uh there are
00:26:53.160 are horrible things that
00:26:55.900 happen there are terrible
00:26:56.720 things that are done but
00:26:57.640 i said look in in any
00:26:58.720 war there were
00:27:00.240 atrocities on both sides
00:27:01.660 and you know i asked i
00:27:02.840 asked my daughter i said
00:27:03.760 you know from whence do
00:27:05.800 you think the verb to
00:27:07.700 scalp was derived the
00:27:10.840 native americans did
00:27:11.620 some horrible things to
00:27:13.680 the settlers who came here
00:27:14.740 also and and the
00:27:17.620 connection that that i
00:27:18.980 made for her and that i
00:27:19.920 make in the book is
00:27:21.920 those two discussions are
00:27:24.080 interlinked and
00:27:24.800 intertwined which is for
00:27:27.420 all of the teachers and
00:27:29.100 all of the professors and
00:27:30.280 all of the people
00:27:31.000 advocating that columbus
00:27:32.680 was evil and advocating
00:27:33.920 that thanksgiving is evil
00:27:35.080 because the pilgrims were
00:27:35.980 stealing from the the
00:27:37.420 native americans it comes
00:27:39.380 down to one antecedent
00:27:40.740 question was the
00:27:42.740 settlement of the new
00:27:44.140 world a good thing or a
00:27:46.760 bad thing was the
00:27:47.720 formation of the united
00:27:49.080 states of america good or
00:27:51.440 bad and and i'm not
00:27:53.420 neutral or ambivalent on
00:27:54.700 that question i think the
00:27:56.280 united states of america
00:27:57.560 has been the greatest
00:27:58.360 force for good of any
00:27:59.880 nation in the history of
00:28:01.200 the world that we have
00:28:02.680 produced more prosperity
00:28:04.000 more abundance we have
00:28:05.260 liberated more prisoners and
00:28:07.500 captives we have shed our
00:28:09.420 blood and treasure and
00:28:11.020 tears fighting tyranny more
00:28:13.580 than any nation in the
00:28:14.840 history of the world do we
00:28:16.320 have our flaws yes of
00:28:17.460 course do we have our
00:28:18.440 problems yes of course but
00:28:20.540 america i i believe like
00:28:22.540 reagan said is a shining
00:28:23.600 city on a hill and i want
00:28:24.700 to make a special request
00:28:26.700 of our verdict listeners you
00:28:27.760 guys are incredible you
00:28:29.220 guys are patriots you guys
00:28:31.580 give me hope and optimism
00:28:33.080 in america i i want to ask
00:28:34.720 every one of you please
00:28:36.000 today when you finish
00:28:39.760 listening to this podcast
00:28:40.900 most of you are listening on
00:28:42.080 your cell phones click over
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00:29:01.920 very tops of the new york
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00:29:04.960 that would drive them nuts by
00:29:06.940 the way and and and i wrote
00:29:09.740 this book for the same reason
00:29:12.700 ben that you and i do this
00:29:13.880 podcast it is right now 1103
00:29:16.100 p.m on tuesday night the
00:29:17.420 podcast will come out early
00:29:18.620 wednesday morning why am i
00:29:20.300 sitting here at 1103 why are
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00:29:22.960 because we care about this we
00:29:24.840 want we want our incredible
00:29:27.640 listeners to be armed with
00:29:29.260 information and know how to
00:29:30.820 fight to save this country and
00:29:32.800 and this book is exactly in the
00:29:34.920 same spirit the book is i think
00:29:37.500 interesting and fun it's not
00:29:39.180 some abstract academic treatise
00:29:42.040 but it's designed when you read
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00:29:46.100 way i'd encourage you look if i can
00:29:48.440 be immodest for a second don't
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00:30:12.160 america that's what the stakes are
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