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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- July 20, 2024
NO Secret Service for DT if a Felon, plus Assassination Attempt DEMANDS a Hearing, & Will DNC be Delayed do to Biden Week in Review
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Sentence Count
198
Misogynist Sentences
2
Hate Speech Sentences
5
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This is an iHeart Podcast.
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Welcome, it is Verdict with Ted Cruz.
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Weekend Review, Ben Ferguson with you.
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And these are the stories that you may have missed
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that we talked about this week.
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And was it a crazy week in the world of politics?
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First up, let's go back in history.
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When the Democrats in Congress demanded
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that the Secret Service protection be stripped
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of Donald Trump when he became a felon.
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Is there gonna be repercussions for those requests
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in light of what happened with the assassination attempt?
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Also, there are so many questions
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on the assassination attempt.
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So is there gonna be a hearing?
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The answer is yes.
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And how is it gonna play out?
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We'll explain that to you.
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And finally, there is word that Joe Biden
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may even drop out of the race.
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And the Democratic Party is pushing to delay
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the Democratic National Convention.
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It's the Weekend Review.
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And it starts right now.
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Democrats actively called members of Congress
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so that no one thinks it's a conspiracy theory
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for Donald Trump to lose Secret Service protection
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if he was convicted of a felony.
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One of those was my former Congressman Steve Cohen.
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He and several other people in Congress
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said that they should pull Secret Service protection
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of Donald Trump, which goes back to what you said
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about it being political.
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They didn't care if Donald Trump got killed.
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In fact, they advocated for taking away the safety
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that protects a president from being killed.
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And those are members of Congress.
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And it's amazing to me that virtually no,
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not virtually, literally no one in the media
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has brought that point up that just months ago
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we had active Democrats in Congress,
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not fringe people, okay?
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These are elected officials who are demanding
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that Donald Trump lose his Secret Service protection
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if he was convicted of these, I'm sorry, hoax,
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you know, crimes against him.
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They tried to go after him for it to imprison him.
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Well, and this was legislation that was filed
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by Congressman Benny Thompson,
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who is the top Democrat on the Homeland Security Committee.
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So he's actually...
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Can you just say that again
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so you understand how important that job is
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and then to understand that Homeland Security,
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how much they have to do with the Secret Service?
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So they are the Committee of Jurisdiction.
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They have authority over the Department of Homeland Security.
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And Benny Thompson is the senior Democrat.
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He's called the ranking member.
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And he filed the legislation.
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He's the author of the legislation to say,
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let's pull the Secret Service coverage
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from Donald Trump entirely if he's convicted.
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And by the way, it's a complete partisan conviction
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that is designed to subvert democracy.
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But let's be clear.
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If you were to put any former president
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into general population in a prison,
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they would die.
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Yes.
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And so he's literally effectively calling for a death sentence.
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And by the way,
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Benny Thompson also had a staffer
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who in the wake of this posted on X
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saying that she wishes the shooter
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had taken shooting lessons
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and that he wouldn't miss next time.
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Now, Benny Thompson fired that staffer.
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He put out a statement,
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I was made aware of a post made by a staff member,
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and she is no longer in my employment.
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But you know what?
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Staff reflects the member.
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Yep.
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And it reflects the culture
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that her first reaction is to be angry
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that this would-be assassin
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did not, in fact, kill Donald Trump.
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That's what she wanted.
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And from his legislation,
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and it was joined by multiple other Democrats,
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that legislation,
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if it actually had become law,
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and if Trump had gone to prison,
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would have led directly to the death of Donald Trump.
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And now they're suddenly saying,
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oh, well, we're very dismayed
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that there was any violence towards it.
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Well, let's talk about the rewriting of history
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and move also to the press conference Sunday night
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that Joe Biden had.
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He opened,
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it wasn't a press conference,
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it was more of a statement from the Oval Office,
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I should say,
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because there was no questions.
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And what he said,
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his address to the nation,
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when he opened,
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was certainly rewriting of history.
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Here he is in his own words.
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I want to speak to you tonight
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about the need for us
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to lower the temperature in our politics.
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And to remember,
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or we may disagree,
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we are not enemies.
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We're neighbors.
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We're friends,
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co-workers,
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we're citizens.
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And most importantly,
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we're our fellow Americans.
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Sounds great.
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The problem is,
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if you go and read
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the president's own words,
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in the days leading up to this moment,
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that is not what he was saying at all.
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He didn't say,
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hey, I need to tone it down as well.
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Joe Biden's own tweet was,
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quote,
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Donald Trump is the greatest threat
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to our democracy.
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He tweeted out again,
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Donald Trump is a genuine threat
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threat to this nation.
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Another tweet,
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he,
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meaning Trump,
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is a threat to our freedom.
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He is a threat to our democracy.
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He's literally,
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this is Joe Biden's words,
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on Twitter,
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on X,
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he's literally referring to Trump
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a threat to everything
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America stands for.
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He also said,
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Donald Trump is a threat
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to our democracy
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and we cannot let him win.
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I'm in Madison,
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Wisconsin,
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talking to the folks about
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what's at stake in this election.
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We cannot let him win.
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He also tweeted out,
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Trump poses many threats
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to our country.
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The right to choose,
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civil rights,
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voting rights,
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and Americans,
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and America's city,
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and the world.
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But the greatest threat he poses
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is to our democracy.
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If we lose that,
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we lose everything.
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If I read those,
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and I'm a crazy 20-year-old lunatic,
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and you tell me,
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as the President of the United States of America,
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that Donald Trump,
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and I'm quoting again,
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is a threat to our democracy,
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quote,
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he's literally a threat
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to everything America stands for,
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well then it's not crazy
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to think that that person would say,
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well then we have to stop him
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at all means,
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because we've already tried
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to impeach him,
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that didn't work.
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We tried to bankrupt him,
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that didn't work.
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We tried to lock him up,
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that didn't work,
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what's left?
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Well,
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and you're right,
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and there's some irony
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with Joe Biden suggesting,
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you know,
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we need to tamp down the rhetoric.
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Look,
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I'd like to see the rhetoric tamped down,
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but then taking no responsibility.
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Listen,
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it is Democrats for a decade
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who have been calling Donald Trump
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Adolf Hitler.
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Yeah.
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And the media too.
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And the media too.
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Well,
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I said Democrats,
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and they're one and the same.
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The corporate media
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is the left wing
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of the Democrat Party.
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That is their role,
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and they call him that
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over and over and over again.
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Here,
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play the montage.
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This is Democrats
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repeatedly calling
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for political violence.
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It starts with Nancy Pelosi.
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Give a listen.
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Here is Nancy Pelosi,
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as you mentioned,
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Senator,
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in her own words,
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and many in the media
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and other elected officials
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explicitly calling
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for political violence
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against conservatives.
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I just don't even know
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why there aren't uprisings
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all over the country.
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Maybe there will be.
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People need to start
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taking to the streets.
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This is a dictator.
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You know,
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there needs to be unrest
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in the streets
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for as long as there's
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unrest in our lives.
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Enemies of the state.
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Show me where it says
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that protests
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are supposed to be polite
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and peaceful.
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Do something about
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your dad's immigration practices,
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you feckless.
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They go low,
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we kill them.
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How do you resist
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the temptation
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to run up
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and wring her neck?
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The biggest terror threat
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in this country
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is white men,
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most of them
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radicalized
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to the right.
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I thought he should've
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punched him in the face.
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Even if he lost,
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he insulted your wife.
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He came down the escalator
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and called Mexicans
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rapists and murders.
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He said,
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well,
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what do you think
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I should've done?
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I said,
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I think you should've
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punched him in the face
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and then gotten out of the race.
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He would've been a hero.
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I'd like to punch him
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in the face.
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I said,
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if we were in high school,
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I'd take him behind the gym
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and beat the hell out of him.
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Punch some people
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in the face!
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When was the last time
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an actor
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assassinated a president?
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They're still gonna have
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to go out
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and put a bullet
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in Donald Trump
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and that's a fact.
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Look as his character
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is stabbed to death.
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Where is John Wilkes Booth
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when you need him?
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This way.
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That's it right there.
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Pull it up.
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I have thought
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an awful lot
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about blowing up
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the White House.
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A Missouri state senator
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is under investigation
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by the Secret Service
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after saying
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she hopes
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President Trump
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is assassinated.
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I will go
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and take Trump
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out tonight.
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And if you see anybody
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from that cabinet
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in a restaurant,
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in a department store,
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at a gasoline station,
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you get out
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and you create a crowd.
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And you push back on them.
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And you tell them
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they're not welcome
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anymore, anywhere.
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And sadly,
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the domestic enemies
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to our voting system
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and our honoring
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our Constitution
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are right at
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1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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They're not gonna stop
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before Election Day
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in November
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and they're not gonna stop
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after Election Day.
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And that should be,
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everyone should take note
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of that on both levels.
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That this isn't,
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they're not gonna let up
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and they should not.
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If you think we're rallying now,
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you ain't seen nothing yet.
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That's what Donald Trump
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dealt with
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while he was president
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and after being the president.
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Look, the radical left,
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Donald Trump,
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melted their minds.
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They hate him
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and they have spewed
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invective and hate
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for years.
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And, listen,
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there's invective
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on both sides.
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I would like to see
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the political temperature
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taken down.
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But the Democrats
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intend to go right back
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to this.
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This is a brief
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little pause
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for about 12 seconds
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and by,
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I don't know,
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next week or the week after,
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they're gonna go back
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to calling him Hitler.
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Because
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the rage
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and fury,
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look,
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the number of leftists
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on Twitter
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who were lamenting
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that they were sad
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that the assassinated
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wasn't good at it.
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Yeah,
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they're basically saying
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this,
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and there were people
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who were literally
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tweeting out there
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like,
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hey,
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this guy,
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next time take lessons,
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next time actually
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do a good job.
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And let me be clear,
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as you and I talked about,
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we did a podcast
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immediately
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in the moments
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after this
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assassination attempt,
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I pray for Joe Biden.
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I don't wish
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political violence
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on Democrats
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or anyone else.
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Now,
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I want Joe Biden
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defeated at the ballot box.
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That,
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I believe his policies
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are harmful.
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But there's a difference
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between saying
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his policies
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are harmful
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and saying
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he's Hitler,
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saying he's Mussolini,
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which is what,
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saying he's the devil,
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which is what
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the Democrats
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have been doing
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literally for a decade
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and it's what
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the media
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has been doing too.
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I said today,
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how many cities
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have Republicans
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tried to destroy
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after their candidate
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was almost assassinated?
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Just so we're clear,
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zero.
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What did Republicans
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say today?
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They said pray,
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go to church,
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and pray for the family
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of those who lost
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loved ones.
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There's been no violence.
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I never want to hear again
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from the left,
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oh,
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it's the Republicans
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or the extremists here.
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There has been nothing
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but love and compassion.
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There's anger.
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And we also need
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to fix the damn problem.
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We need to make sure
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that there is
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adequate protection
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for Donald Trump
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and for others
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targeted by violence
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because this was
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a catastrophic failure
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and we've got to make sure
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it doesn't happen again.
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Now,
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if you want to hear
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the rest of this conversation,
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you can go back
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and listen to the full podcast
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from earlier this week.
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And that's why
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I'm Jennifer Stewart.
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And I'm Catherine Clark.
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And in this podcast,
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we interview Canada's
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most inspiring women.
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Entrepreneurs,
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artists,
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athletes,
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politicians,
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and newsmakers,
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all at different stages
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of their journey.
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Now on to story number two.
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Senator,
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I want to ask you this.
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You mentioned the Senate
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only meeting.
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Details,
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I'm going to read this
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from CBS News.
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Details are emerging
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about the moments
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that led to the shooting.
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Bystanders alerted
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law enforcement
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to the government
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on the roof
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of a building
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about 410 feet away
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from the stage
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at least two minutes
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before the first shot
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was fired
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at Trump.
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Yep.
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How vulnerable
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are we
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and how vulnerable
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is every president
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past and present
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if you've got
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a two-minute warning
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and the job
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is still not done?
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Did anyone answer
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that question
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on the call?
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Look,
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we need to have,
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part of the reason
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we need to have a hearing
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is there are a whole series
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of questions
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about how many threats
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have there been.
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How many agents
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did you have assigned?
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Should there be
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2x,
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3x,
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4x as many agents
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assigned to the president?
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What resources,
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what equipment
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did you have?
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The threat profile,
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I'm willing to bet
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that Donald Trump
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is the single most
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threatened individual
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on the face of the planet.
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Now,
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I don't actually have
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the facts of the threats
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that have come in
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to prove that is correct,
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but you know what?
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Secret Service does.
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And I would like us
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to know
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what is the comparative
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threat level
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between Trump and Biden.
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And my concern
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is that,
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did politics play a role?
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Was it politics
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or incompetence?
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Because it's clear
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they screwed up massively.
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I can tell you
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in this call,
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so you had one senator
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who asked,
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were there drones,
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yes or no?
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And the answer
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from the head
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of the Secret Service
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was,
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we determined
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that the risk
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from that rooftop
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was mitigated
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by counter snipers.
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Meaning no.
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number one,
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she didn't even
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say the word no,
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which is what
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someone honestly
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would say.
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She didn't say,
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well obviously
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we needed drones
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and we should have had them,
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which is what someone
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obviously would have said.
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She didn't make
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the obvious point,
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well the roof
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was slanted
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so the counter snipers
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couldn't see the guy
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because he was
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on the other end
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of the slant.
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And by the way,
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I'm pretty sure
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the roof
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didn't suddenly
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slant itself
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in between
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when they advanced
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the scene
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and when it occurred.
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In other words,
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they could have figured out
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if your quote
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mitigation
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is counter snipers
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and they don't have
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a line of sight
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to a place
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a sniper could be,
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then you don't have
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effective mitigation.
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She addressed
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none of that
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but it was
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pure bureaucratese
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that's a good word for it.
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This is why I love
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having live studio audience.
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When you look
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at the roof
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and for the folks
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listening at home
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since we are
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in a studio audience
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and the audience
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is not mic'd,
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I will just say
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you guys were
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in a cow field
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and they suggested
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it was a substance
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that was probably
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there in large amounts.
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Exactly.
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When you were there
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and after the shooting
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happened,
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you saw how close
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it was.
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Were you shocked?
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Because I'm sure
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you saw the commotion
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on the rooftop.
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I'm sure you knew
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that's where the shots
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came out from.
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Then you look at it.
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Is there any,
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I mean,
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former military,
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when you look at it,
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could you believe
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that building
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was not monitored
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the way it should have been?
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Well, you know,
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I would just be honest,
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I didn't know.
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On the site,
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you're in the middle
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of people,
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you're trying
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to get people out.
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So I wasn't sure
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until I got back
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and saw the TV projections
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and the aerial photos
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where it came from.
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Were you shocked then
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knowing that you were there
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and that's how close
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that building was?
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Oh yeah,
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absolutely,
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because it's
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the most obvious place.
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And the idea,
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just to go back
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to my earlier point,
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the idea that the sniper,
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the 20-year-old kid
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who has no experience,
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would have known
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the place
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where he wouldn't be
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in the sniper's
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line of sight.
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Yeah.
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Right,
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these are questions,
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I don't know
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what the answer is,
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but it seems
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highly unlikely
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that a single person
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could have pulled this off
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without so much luck
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and so much incompetence
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and so that's why
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the hearings,
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to give us confidence
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that we understand
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what really happened here
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are so incredibly important.
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Well,
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and look,
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I will say
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the FBI was on
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and they're investigating
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and at least
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what they're reporting
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right now
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is they don't have evidence
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of anyone else
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being involved
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and they're looking
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at his cell phone
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and his computers
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and they're engaged
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in the forensics
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and we will find out.
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We have seen
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with other instances
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there are times
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where their lone shooters
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commit horrific attacks
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and it's possible
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that this young man
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who is an alienated loner,
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that unfortunately
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is a profile
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we've seen
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in other instances
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of people
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who have committed
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horrific offenses
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and so we'll find out
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in time.
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You know,
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I will say
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when the shooting occurs
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that this is one
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of the moments
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I think every one of us
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is going to remember
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exactly where we were
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when this happened
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and whether we were
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staring in horror
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at a television set
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or in my instance
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I was sitting there
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having a meal with Heidi
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and we're staring
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in horror at our phones
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and hitting refresh
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and by the way
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it says something
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that nobody was
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on news sites.
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You're on social media,
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you're on X
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because it's the fastest thing.
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You're getting immediate updates
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of what's happening
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one after the other
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after the other.
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So we talked about
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for example
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in our last podcast
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we played
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from what got put up
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on X
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of like one of the guys
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standing outside the rally
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that saw this guy
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climbing on the roof
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and he's yelling to cops.
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There's a guy
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with a rifle on the roof.
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We now know
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a local police officer
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climbed up to that roof.
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He pointed the rifle
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at the local police officer
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and yet
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and we haven't had
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these questions yet
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what level of communication
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was there
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between the local police
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and the Secret Service
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the instant
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the local police officer
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saw a sniper
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on a roof
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with a gun.
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He should have been
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yelling in his microphone
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shooter, shooter, shooter
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instantaneously
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the Secret Service
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should have pulled Trump
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off of that stage
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before the shooter
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could aim
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and they should have
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taken him out
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right there.
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That didn't happen
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which raises the question
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was the Secret Service
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did they have
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communication
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synchronized
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with local law enforcement
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and I will tell you
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something also
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so I
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right before this podcast
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I was going to ask you
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that question
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because people are going
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to want to hear this
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you just met
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with President Trump
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at the convention
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for people that are listening
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you got to see him
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this first time
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since this happened
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first time I've seen him
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since he was shot
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and I've visited with him
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what did he say?
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look number one
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he is happy
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he is strong
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his ear is bandaged
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I will tell you
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he
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he was quiet
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for a second
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and he spoke
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with a seriousness
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that was unlike
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anything I've heard
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from Donald Trump
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before
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and he said
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God saved me
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that day
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and
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listen
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I believe
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that is
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absolutely right
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many of us
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have seen
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online
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for example
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recreations
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of the angle
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of the bullet
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and had his head
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turned
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even slightly
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to the right
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or even slightly
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to the left
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he would have been killed
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and it is
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what I said
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at the convention
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last night
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I thank God
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for saving him
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I believe God
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turned his head
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turned his head
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so that the path
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of the bullet
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did not kill him
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that day
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and
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and listen
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I
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this is horrific
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I will say
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going back to the
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Reagan analogy
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one of the things
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Reagan always said
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is that
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when he survived
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that assassination
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attempt
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that it changed
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that it gave him
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a seriousness
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of purpose
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that God spared me
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for a reason
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and
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and
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listen
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I think what
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President Trump
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has done already
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for the country
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has been extraordinary
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but
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but
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I gotta say
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just visiting with him
00:20:41.440
a few minutes ago
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it was powerful
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in a very different way
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and this was just
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him and me
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talking one on one
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that
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that it had
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had a real impact
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and I also
00:20:52.160
I talked to him
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about this briefing
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that I just left
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and
00:20:55.420
and I expressed
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how
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deeply
00:20:58.540
frustrating
00:20:59.300
it was
00:21:01.020
now I will say
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have you noticed
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Trump's secret service
00:21:04.800
detail here at the convention
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they look like an offensive lineman
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like a whole line
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they brought him
00:21:09.900
the Green Bay Packers
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I'm pretty sure
00:21:11.800
the entire Green Bay Packers
00:21:13.960
are right now
00:21:14.900
surrounding Donald Trump
00:21:15.860
what is your weight
00:21:16.620
and how tall are you
00:21:17.640
yes we'll take you today
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yeah it is different
00:21:20.380
final question
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for each of you
00:21:22.000
as we wrap
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I believe
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by the way
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bringing in the Packers
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is probably worth
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three points
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at least
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that was
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put a glide cue there
00:21:28.760
that was smooth
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how you did that
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put a glide cue there
00:21:31.120
I meant for Trump
00:21:31.260
I meant for Trump
00:21:32.260
as before
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if you want to hear
00:21:34.940
the rest of this conversation
00:21:36.180
on this topic
00:21:37.300
you can go back
00:21:38.180
and download the podcast
00:21:39.500
from early this week
00:21:40.340
to hear the entire thing
00:21:41.620
Canadian women are looking
00:21:43.700
for more
00:21:44.320
more out of themselves
00:21:45.400
their businesses
00:21:46.240
their elected leaders
00:21:47.360
and the world around them
00:21:48.580
and that's why we're thrilled
00:21:49.720
to introduce
00:21:50.380
the Honest Talk podcast
00:21:51.860
I'm Jennifer Stewart
00:21:53.400
and I'm Catherine Clark
00:21:54.620
and in this podcast
00:21:55.700
we interview Canada's
00:21:57.020
most inspiring women
00:21:58.300
entrepreneurs
00:21:58.880
artists
00:21:59.780
athletes
00:22:00.440
politicians
00:22:01.060
and newsmakers
00:22:01.940
all at different stages
00:22:03.260
of their journey
00:22:04.100
so if you're looking
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to connect
00:22:05.960
then we hope you'll join us
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listen to the Honest Talk podcast
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or wherever you listen
00:22:10.980
to your podcasts
00:22:11.720
I want to get back
00:22:14.520
to the big story
00:22:15.720
number three of the week
00:22:16.660
you may have missed
00:22:17.440
two final questions
00:22:19.360
A
00:22:20.060
do they delay
00:22:21.500
the convention
00:22:22.440
number one
00:22:23.600
and two
00:22:24.920
if they delay
00:22:26.180
the convention
00:22:26.860
will he step down
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at the convention
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and then have
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that be the media
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or does it
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come out
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before the convention
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I don't think
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they delay the convention
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they might
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but I doubt it
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and they don't wait
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I think this happens
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within the next week
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I think this could easily
00:22:44.760
happen this weekend
00:22:45.760
and frankly
00:22:46.860
look the Democrats
00:22:47.720
are smart
00:22:48.520
by delaying
00:22:49.300
until after this convention
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this convention
00:22:51.080
let it happen
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and then kill the momentum
00:22:52.580
has been phenomenal
00:22:53.840
and the media
00:22:55.300
will treat
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whoever parachutes in
00:22:58.880
the media will treat it
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as a brand new race
00:23:00.860
ignore anything
00:23:02.120
that happened before
00:23:03.340
we're brand new
00:23:04.480
starting over
00:23:05.160
and so I think
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they want to get on
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with that quickly
00:23:07.920
so my prediction
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by the way
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if you want to think
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about momentous
00:23:14.160
and historic
00:23:14.920
weeks in politics
00:23:16.260
on Saturday
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the former president
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of the United States
00:23:20.700
was shot
00:23:21.180
the first presidential
00:23:22.940
assassination attempt
00:23:24.060
since 1981
00:23:24.840
immediately thereafter
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we've had an incredibly
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successful
00:23:29.340
convention
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we've had a vice presidential
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nominee named
00:23:33.160
and it could be
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within a week
00:23:35.220
of that
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because I could easily
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see it being
00:23:37.620
this weekend
00:23:38.380
Joe Biden
00:23:39.840
is off the ballot
00:23:40.740
and we have a new
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Democrat nominee
00:23:43.320
and there's chatter
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there's some of the
00:23:45.260
pundits that are saying
00:23:45.980
oh we ought to have
00:23:46.660
an open primary
00:23:47.380
we ought to have
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Democrats fighting
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not going to happen
00:23:48.840
I don't believe
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that will happen
00:23:50.480
they will coronate
00:23:52.360
and I think it will be
00:23:52.900
one of the two
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then my bonus question
00:23:54.800
is either three or C
00:23:56.060
depending on how
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you want to list these
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how many times
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will Kamala Harris
00:24:00.620
or Michelle Obama
00:24:01.560
debate Donald Trump
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once
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we'll have one debate
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just one debate
00:24:05.280
and could they get away
00:24:07.180
with saying
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I'm not going to debate
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no
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even if it's Michelle
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I think they will do
00:24:12.360
one debate
00:24:12.960
I think they will feel
00:24:14.000
like it's not credible
00:24:15.360
if you don't do a debate
00:24:16.540
particularly because
00:24:18.300
if you're Trump
00:24:18.900
do you push for two
00:24:19.660
I would
00:24:21.220
yeah
00:24:21.960
I'd say it's a reset
00:24:23.040
we're doing two of these
00:24:23.900
suckers before November
00:24:24.800
but I don't think
00:24:25.460
they'll end up doing it
00:24:26.340
look I think Trump
00:24:27.420
may well push for two
00:24:28.560
part of the reason
00:24:29.480
if you're a Democrat
00:24:30.300
everyone concedes
00:24:31.900
Trump mopped the floor
00:24:33.000
with Biden
00:24:33.560
I think as a Democrat
00:24:34.640
you don't want that
00:24:35.420
to be the only debate
00:24:36.320
if you're putting
00:24:36.900
someone new
00:24:37.600
you need something
00:24:38.500
credible
00:24:39.020
I will tell you
00:24:41.140
I just came from
00:24:41.860
a meeting that
00:24:42.500
J.D. Vance met
00:24:43.460
with all the senators
00:24:44.340
we're congratulating him
00:24:45.520
and he did have
00:24:46.540
a very funny thing
00:24:47.640
he shared with us
00:24:48.440
he said
00:24:48.840
you know
00:24:49.120
he was talking
00:24:49.660
to Trump about
00:24:51.080
well okay
00:24:52.080
who are we going to face
00:24:53.660
is it going to be
00:24:54.220
someone new
00:24:54.740
is it going to be Kamala
00:24:55.640
and J.D. said
00:24:57.640
well look Mr. President
00:24:59.140
I said yes
00:25:00.420
assuming I got to
00:25:01.600
debate Kamala
00:25:02.660
if they actually
00:25:03.340
bring in someone
00:25:04.020
that's a really good
00:25:04.720
debater
00:25:05.120
I may have to
00:25:06.020
rethink this
00:25:06.780
and Trump said
00:25:07.580
no backing out
00:25:08.320
you accepted the thing
00:25:09.260
you're stuck
00:25:09.800
you ain't going anywhere
00:25:11.800
but look
00:25:12.780
that
00:25:13.080
I
00:25:14.700
I think
00:25:16.200
they'll do it fast
00:25:17.280
by the way
00:25:17.940
I will point out
00:25:18.800
the night of the debate
00:25:20.080
when you and I
00:25:20.640
did a podcast
00:25:21.280
immediately thereafter
00:25:22.240
we said that night
00:25:23.520
this is the most
00:25:25.220
consequential
00:25:26.140
presidential debate
00:25:27.320
in American history
00:25:28.240
and the reason
00:25:29.020
we said that
00:25:29.940
is because we said
00:25:31.500
I believe
00:25:32.400
this will change
00:25:34.200
the names on the ballot
00:25:35.260
in November
00:25:35.800
and that has never happened
00:25:36.740
there's never been a debate
00:25:37.800
that changed the names
00:25:39.780
on the ballot
00:25:40.380
and that's exactly
00:25:41.240
what that debate did
00:25:42.080
it took a few weeks
00:25:42.800
to play out
00:25:43.300
but I think it is imminent
00:25:45.340
I think it is within days
00:25:46.820
to everybody
00:25:47.800
that's here in the hall
00:25:48.860
thank you guys
00:25:49.480
for joining us
00:25:50.500
it's nice to do a show
00:25:52.220
here live at the convention
00:25:53.300
Senator Cruz
00:25:54.680
and I do this
00:25:55.160
Monday, Wednesday, Friday
00:25:55.960
hit that subscribe
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00:25:58.420
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00:25:59.540
and I have a feeling
00:26:00.520
how do you subscribe
00:26:01.540
because as you know
00:26:03.160
my dad is 85
00:26:04.160
my father is my hero
00:26:05.860
but my father points out
00:26:07.060
all the time
00:26:07.480
when I use the word subscribe
00:26:08.600
he says people
00:26:09.920
my generation
00:26:10.640
think magazine subscriptions
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they think you're going
00:26:12.520
to charge us
00:26:13.140
it doesn't cost any money
00:26:14.200
it doesn't cost any money
00:26:15.260
and you put
00:26:16.320
so alright
00:26:16.920
a line I say all the time
00:26:18.300
on the trail
00:26:18.720
I say if you're under 40
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00:26:27.480
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00:26:28.900
they're laughing
00:26:29.460
you guys know how to do this
00:26:30.880
and like call your parents
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give me your phone
00:26:34.600
actually don't even tell them
00:26:35.860
just take their phone
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00:26:37.360
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00:26:37.860
here pull it up
00:26:38.780
pull up podcast
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00:26:45.880
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00:26:46.700
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00:26:47.480
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if you subscribe
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00:26:52.160
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00:26:53.180
we predicted this
00:26:54.400
ten months ago
00:26:55.440
and by the way
00:26:56.080
nobody else was predicting this
00:26:57.380
we were
00:26:57.940
do we get a letter
00:26:58.660
from the media
00:26:59.200
when they thought
00:26:59.840
we were moonbacks
00:27:00.400
apologizing
00:27:01.260
no
00:27:01.620
okay
00:27:02.060
but number two
00:27:04.000
this is designed
00:27:05.560
to equip you
00:27:07.360
to give you the tools
00:27:08.960
when you're talking
00:27:09.680
to your friends
00:27:10.280
your family
00:27:10.940
young people
00:27:11.800
when you're talking
00:27:12.340
to your classmates
00:27:12.940
in school
00:27:13.480
and they're arguing
00:27:14.600
and to give you the facts
00:27:16.260
that the corporate media
00:27:17.460
never reports
00:27:18.120
that's what we try to do
00:27:19.640
three times a week
00:27:20.820
on this
00:27:21.520
is this is what
00:27:22.580
you need to know
00:27:23.540
to go and persuade
00:27:25.220
and win
00:27:26.020
and I promise
00:27:26.820
we will have an emergency pod
00:27:28.260
if and when
00:27:30.820
Joe Biden
00:27:31.760
drops out
00:27:32.560
that's a fair prediction
00:27:34.460
I think that is
00:27:35.340
a fair prediction
00:27:36.060
grab it
00:27:36.980
wherever you can
00:27:38.060
Donald Trump's speech
00:27:39.520
tonight
00:27:39.860
any prediction
00:27:41.000
last minute
00:27:41.680
will he needle
00:27:42.660
Joe Biden
00:27:43.220
look I think
00:27:44.560
it is going to be
00:27:45.340
substantially tamped down
00:27:47.280
I think Saturday
00:27:49.220
changed the speech
00:27:50.260
in fact I know
00:27:50.960
Saturday changed the speech
00:27:52.280
that I think
00:27:53.440
prior to Saturday
00:27:54.380
the speech
00:27:54.920
was going to be
00:27:55.840
quite combative
00:27:57.120
and I expect
00:27:58.980
to see
00:27:59.840
a lot of unity
00:28:01.440
a lot more
00:28:02.540
language seeking
00:28:03.800
to bring people together
00:28:04.780
and look
00:28:05.400
we've seen this
00:28:06.920
throughout the convention
00:28:07.820
we talked about
00:28:09.840
we did a live podcast
00:28:11.080
at the convention
00:28:11.780
yesterday
00:28:12.280
I talked about
00:28:13.000
when I visited
00:28:13.560
with President Trump
00:28:14.340
yesterday
00:28:14.740
and I think
00:28:16.580
Saturday really
00:28:17.360
had an impact
00:28:18.000
on him
00:28:18.280
had an impact
00:28:18.960
I mean he kind of
00:28:19.660
pulled me aside
00:28:20.460
and said really quietly
00:28:21.460
just said
00:28:22.020
God save me
00:28:23.420
and it was
00:28:24.740
it was quiet
00:28:25.740
and serious
00:28:26.520
in a way
00:28:27.360
that I think
00:28:28.900
is really consequential
00:28:30.040
and listen
00:28:32.100
I think it's
00:28:32.980
you can't go through
00:28:34.780
what he went through
00:28:35.640
Saturday
00:28:36.400
having been shot
00:28:37.840
and having been
00:28:38.580
within a half inch
00:28:39.720
of being killed
00:28:41.000
amen
00:28:41.460
without really thinking
00:28:43.280
about God Almighty
00:28:44.300
turning his head
00:28:45.040
because I believe
00:28:45.920
that happened
00:28:46.480
I believe it was
00:28:47.240
divine providence
00:28:48.400
that turned his head
00:28:49.360
and had it been
00:28:49.820
slightly one way
00:28:50.660
or the other
00:28:51.180
we would be having
00:28:52.460
a dramatically
00:28:52.940
different conversation
00:28:53.840
As always
00:28:54.980
thank you for listening
00:28:56.460
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00:28:57.280
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00:28:58.360
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00:28:59.080
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00:29:05.180
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00:29:06.040
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00:29:07.400
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00:29:07.900
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00:29:10.880
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