Verdict with Ted Cruz - July 20, 2024


NO Secret Service for DT if a Felon, plus Assassination Attempt DEMANDS a Hearing, & Will DNC be Delayed do to Biden Week in Review


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Ted Cruz and Ben Ferguson discuss the aftermath of the assassination attempt on President Donald Trump, the Democratic response to it, and the possibility that Joe Biden may drop out of the 2020 Democratic nomination race. Ted Cruz: Assassination attempt is a hoax.

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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:05.180 Welcome, it is Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:00:07.260 Weekend Review, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.200 And these are the stories that you may have missed
00:00:11.460 that we talked about this week.
00:00:13.420 And was it a crazy week in the world of politics?
00:00:17.920 First up, let's go back in history.
00:00:20.380 When the Democrats in Congress demanded
00:00:23.600 that the Secret Service protection be stripped
00:00:26.080 of Donald Trump when he became a felon.
00:00:30.160 Is there gonna be repercussions for those requests
00:00:32.940 in light of what happened with the assassination attempt?
00:00:36.280 Also, there are so many questions
00:00:38.320 on the assassination attempt.
00:00:40.600 So is there gonna be a hearing?
00:00:42.560 The answer is yes.
00:00:43.700 And how is it gonna play out?
00:00:44.960 We'll explain that to you.
00:00:46.600 And finally, there is word that Joe Biden
00:00:49.140 may even drop out of the race.
00:00:51.140 And the Democratic Party is pushing to delay
00:00:53.680 the Democratic National Convention.
00:00:57.140 It's the Weekend Review.
00:00:58.320 And it starts right now.
00:01:01.040 Democrats actively called members of Congress
00:01:04.880 so that no one thinks it's a conspiracy theory
00:01:08.120 for Donald Trump to lose Secret Service protection
00:01:12.100 if he was convicted of a felony.
00:01:15.680 One of those was my former Congressman Steve Cohen.
00:01:18.240 He and several other people in Congress
00:01:22.260 said that they should pull Secret Service protection
00:01:25.680 of Donald Trump, which goes back to what you said
00:01:27.620 about it being political.
00:01:29.400 They didn't care if Donald Trump got killed.
00:01:32.080 In fact, they advocated for taking away the safety
00:01:34.300 that protects a president from being killed.
00:01:37.300 And those are members of Congress.
00:01:39.080 And it's amazing to me that virtually no,
00:01:43.160 not virtually, literally no one in the media
00:01:45.280 has brought that point up that just months ago
00:01:48.100 we had active Democrats in Congress,
00:01:50.880 not fringe people, okay?
00:01:53.340 These are elected officials who are demanding
00:01:56.440 that Donald Trump lose his Secret Service protection
00:01:58.540 if he was convicted of these, I'm sorry, hoax,
00:02:01.600 you know, crimes against him.
00:02:03.120 They tried to go after him for it to imprison him.
00:02:05.020 Well, and this was legislation that was filed
00:02:08.360 by Congressman Benny Thompson,
00:02:10.760 who is the top Democrat on the Homeland Security Committee.
00:02:14.460 So he's actually...
00:02:15.260 Can you just say that again
00:02:16.160 so you understand how important that job is
00:02:17.860 and then to understand that Homeland Security,
00:02:19.920 how much they have to do with the Secret Service?
00:02:21.400 So they are the Committee of Jurisdiction.
00:02:24.540 They have authority over the Department of Homeland Security.
00:02:28.720 And Benny Thompson is the senior Democrat.
00:02:30.840 He's called the ranking member.
00:02:32.200 And he filed the legislation.
00:02:33.940 He's the author of the legislation to say,
00:02:37.920 let's pull the Secret Service coverage
00:02:39.680 from Donald Trump entirely if he's convicted.
00:02:42.560 And by the way, it's a complete partisan conviction
00:02:44.500 that is designed to subvert democracy.
00:02:49.300 But let's be clear.
00:02:51.320 If you were to put any former president
00:02:53.840 into general population in a prison, 0.82
00:02:57.260 they would die.
00:02:58.580 Yes. 0.66
00:02:59.440 And so he's literally effectively calling for a death sentence.
00:03:03.280 And by the way,
00:03:04.780 Benny Thompson also had a staffer
00:03:06.820 who in the wake of this posted on X
00:03:10.940 saying that she wishes the shooter
00:03:13.880 had taken shooting lessons
00:03:15.640 and that he wouldn't miss next time.
00:03:18.100 Now, Benny Thompson fired that staffer.
00:03:20.260 He put out a statement,
00:03:21.480 I was made aware of a post made by a staff member,
00:03:24.300 and she is no longer in my employment.
00:03:26.480 But you know what?
00:03:27.520 Staff reflects the member.
00:03:29.160 Yep.
00:03:29.440 And it reflects the culture
00:03:30.920 that her first reaction is to be angry
00:03:34.660 that this would-be assassin
00:03:36.780 did not, in fact, kill Donald Trump.
00:03:39.460 That's what she wanted.
00:03:40.500 And from his legislation,
00:03:43.520 and it was joined by multiple other Democrats,
00:03:46.420 that legislation,
00:03:47.680 if it actually had become law,
00:03:49.660 and if Trump had gone to prison,
00:03:51.360 would have led directly to the death of Donald Trump.
00:03:54.040 And now they're suddenly saying,
00:03:55.700 oh, well, we're very dismayed
00:03:57.480 that there was any violence towards it.
00:03:59.660 Well, let's talk about the rewriting of history
00:04:01.280 and move also to the press conference Sunday night
00:04:04.400 that Joe Biden had.
00:04:06.100 He opened,
00:04:07.760 it wasn't a press conference,
00:04:08.540 it was more of a statement from the Oval Office,
00:04:10.000 I should say,
00:04:11.040 because there was no questions.
00:04:13.320 And what he said,
00:04:14.360 his address to the nation,
00:04:16.020 when he opened,
00:04:17.320 was certainly rewriting of history.
00:04:20.580 Here he is in his own words.
00:04:22.540 I want to speak to you tonight
00:04:23.740 about the need for us
00:04:24.960 to lower the temperature in our politics.
00:04:27.640 And to remember,
00:04:29.040 or we may disagree,
00:04:30.300 we are not enemies.
00:04:31.880 We're neighbors.
00:04:33.160 We're friends,
00:04:34.460 co-workers,
00:04:34.980 we're citizens.
00:04:36.000 And most importantly,
00:04:36.980 we're our fellow Americans.
00:04:39.220 Sounds great.
00:04:40.580 The problem is,
00:04:41.880 if you go and read
00:04:43.000 the president's own words,
00:04:45.720 in the days leading up to this moment,
00:04:48.340 that is not what he was saying at all.
00:04:50.740 He didn't say,
00:04:51.320 hey, I need to tone it down as well.
00:04:53.540 Joe Biden's own tweet was,
00:04:55.380 quote,
00:04:55.500 Donald Trump is the greatest threat
00:04:57.700 to our democracy.
00:04:59.880 He tweeted out again,
00:05:01.780 Donald Trump is a genuine threat
00:05:03.980 threat to this nation.
00:05:06.600 Another tweet,
00:05:08.220 he,
00:05:08.920 meaning Trump,
00:05:09.960 is a threat to our freedom.
00:05:12.060 He is a threat to our democracy.
00:05:15.580 He's literally,
00:05:17.200 this is Joe Biden's words,
00:05:18.940 on Twitter,
00:05:19.940 on X,
00:05:20.720 he's literally referring to Trump
00:05:22.820 a threat to everything
00:05:24.720 America stands for.
00:05:26.500 He also said,
00:05:28.320 Donald Trump is a threat
00:05:29.240 to our democracy
00:05:30.000 and we cannot let him win.
00:05:32.140 I'm in Madison,
00:05:33.120 Wisconsin,
00:05:34.020 talking to the folks about
00:05:35.260 what's at stake in this election.
00:05:37.140 We cannot let him win.
00:05:39.160 He also tweeted out,
00:05:40.460 Trump poses many threats
00:05:42.240 to our country.
00:05:43.660 The right to choose,
00:05:44.780 civil rights,
00:05:45.440 voting rights,
00:05:46.040 and Americans,
00:05:47.060 and America's city,
00:05:47.780 and the world.
00:05:48.520 But the greatest threat he poses
00:05:50.320 is to our democracy.
00:05:52.100 If we lose that,
00:05:53.140 we lose everything.
00:05:56.240 If I read those, 0.97
00:05:58.620 and I'm a crazy 20-year-old lunatic, 0.97
00:06:01.300 and you tell me, 0.99
00:06:02.720 as the President of the United States of America,
00:06:04.540 that Donald Trump,
00:06:05.400 and I'm quoting again,
00:06:06.200 is a threat to our democracy,
00:06:08.180 quote,
00:06:08.480 he's literally a threat
00:06:09.380 to everything America stands for,
00:06:11.720 well then it's not crazy
00:06:12.980 to think that that person would say,
00:06:14.300 well then we have to stop him
00:06:15.400 at all means,
00:06:15.980 because we've already tried
00:06:16.840 to impeach him,
00:06:17.420 that didn't work.
00:06:18.120 We tried to bankrupt him,
00:06:19.420 that didn't work.
00:06:20.160 We tried to lock him up,
00:06:21.380 that didn't work,
00:06:22.380 what's left?
00:06:24.180 Well,
00:06:24.800 and you're right,
00:06:26.180 and there's some irony
00:06:27.660 with Joe Biden suggesting,
00:06:29.700 you know,
00:06:29.940 we need to tamp down the rhetoric.
00:06:31.420 Look,
00:06:31.580 I'd like to see the rhetoric tamped down,
00:06:33.960 but then taking no responsibility.
00:06:36.520 Listen,
00:06:36.800 it is Democrats for a decade
00:06:38.780 who have been calling Donald Trump
00:06:41.760 Adolf Hitler.
00:06:43.020 Yeah.
00:06:43.940 And the media too.
00:06:45.860 And the media too.
00:06:46.880 Well,
00:06:47.420 I said Democrats,
00:06:48.300 and they're one and the same.
00:06:49.560 The corporate media
00:06:51.240 is the left wing
00:06:52.340 of the Democrat Party.
00:06:53.500 That is their role,
00:06:54.640 and they call him that
00:06:55.520 over and over and over again.
00:06:58.780 Here,
00:06:59.380 play the montage.
00:07:02.020 This is Democrats
00:07:03.220 repeatedly calling
00:07:04.760 for political violence.
00:07:05.920 It starts with Nancy Pelosi.
00:07:07.180 Give a listen.
00:07:07.940 Here is Nancy Pelosi,
00:07:09.120 as you mentioned,
00:07:09.820 Senator,
00:07:10.440 in her own words,
00:07:11.780 and many in the media
00:07:12.720 and other elected officials
00:07:14.320 explicitly calling
00:07:15.640 for political violence
00:07:16.900 against conservatives.
00:07:17.740 I just don't even know
00:07:19.880 why there aren't uprisings
00:07:21.120 all over the country.
00:07:22.080 Maybe there will be.
00:07:23.500 People need to start
00:07:24.440 taking to the streets.
00:07:25.660 This is a dictator.
00:07:27.440 You know,
00:07:27.680 there needs to be unrest
00:07:28.720 in the streets
00:07:29.220 for as long as there's
00:07:30.060 unrest in our lives.
00:07:31.480 Enemies of the state.
00:07:33.320 Show me where it says
00:07:34.140 that protests
00:07:34.720 are supposed to be polite
00:07:35.880 and peaceful.
00:07:37.440 Do something about
00:07:38.620 your dad's immigration practices, 0.90
00:07:40.640 you feckless.
00:07:41.280 They go low, 1.00
00:07:42.320 we kill them. 1.00
00:07:42.880 How do you resist 1.00
00:07:43.900 the temptation
00:07:44.480 to run up
00:07:45.060 and wring her neck?
00:07:45.800 The biggest terror threat
00:07:46.880 in this country 1.00
00:07:48.320 is white men,
00:07:50.380 most of them 0.85
00:07:50.960 radicalized
00:07:51.860 to the right.
00:07:52.960 I thought he should've 1.00
00:07:53.640 punched him in the face. 0.99
00:07:54.440 Even if he lost, 0.98
00:07:55.460 he insulted your wife.
00:07:56.500 He came down the escalator 0.94
00:07:57.540 and called Mexicans 1.00
00:07:58.260 rapists and murders. 0.99
00:07:59.200 He said, 0.99
00:07:59.420 well,
00:07:59.500 what do you think
00:07:59.800 I should've done?
00:08:00.220 I said,
00:08:00.360 I think you should've 1.00
00:08:00.740 punched him in the face 0.99
00:08:01.440 and then gotten out of the race. 0.77
00:08:02.400 He would've been a hero. 1.00
00:08:03.680 I'd like to punch him 1.00
00:08:04.580 in the face. 1.00
00:08:05.480 I said,
00:08:05.820 if we were in high school,
00:08:06.540 I'd take him behind the gym 0.99
00:08:07.480 and beat the hell out of him. 1.00
00:08:08.960 Punch some people 1.00
00:08:10.400 in the face! 1.00
00:08:11.460 When was the last time
00:08:12.580 an actor
00:08:13.420 assassinated a president?
00:08:14.720 They're still gonna have
00:08:15.840 to go out 0.99
00:08:16.200 and put a bullet 1.00
00:08:16.700 in Donald Trump 1.00
00:08:17.360 and that's a fact.
00:08:21.160 Look as his character
00:08:22.500 is stabbed to death.
00:08:24.380 Where is John Wilkes Booth
00:08:26.420 when you need him?
00:08:27.340 This way.
00:08:29.080 That's it right there.
00:08:30.160 Pull it up.
00:08:30.760 I have thought
00:08:31.760 an awful lot
00:08:33.280 about blowing up
00:08:34.720 the White House.
00:08:36.260 A Missouri state senator
00:08:37.620 is under investigation
00:08:38.960 by the Secret Service
00:08:40.400 after saying
00:08:41.260 she hopes
00:08:41.820 President Trump 1.00
00:08:42.720 is assassinated. 0.99
00:08:43.760 I will go 0.73
00:08:44.880 and take Trump
00:08:45.820 out tonight.
00:08:46.800 And if you see anybody
00:08:48.180 from that cabinet
00:08:49.500 in a restaurant,
00:08:51.140 in a department store,
00:08:53.540 at a gasoline station,
00:08:55.360 you get out
00:08:56.340 and you create a crowd.
00:08:58.440 And you push back on them.
00:09:00.620 And you tell them
00:09:01.840 they're not welcome
00:09:03.140 anymore, anywhere.
00:09:05.180 And sadly,
00:09:06.680 the domestic enemies
00:09:07.840 to our voting system
00:09:09.240 and our honoring
00:09:10.380 our Constitution
00:09:11.360 are right at
00:09:13.140 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
00:09:15.360 They're not gonna stop
00:09:16.180 before Election Day
00:09:17.140 in November
00:09:17.520 and they're not gonna stop
00:09:18.660 after Election Day.
00:09:20.240 And that should be,
00:09:21.020 everyone should take note
00:09:22.100 of that on both levels.
00:09:23.780 That this isn't,
00:09:24.640 they're not gonna let up
00:09:25.540 and they should not.
00:09:26.600 If you think we're rallying now,
00:09:28.540 you ain't seen nothing yet.
00:09:29.900 That's what Donald Trump
00:09:37.600 dealt with
00:09:38.180 while he was president
00:09:39.340 and after being the president.
00:09:43.240 Look, the radical left,
00:09:45.880 Donald Trump,
00:09:47.360 melted their minds.
00:09:49.940 They hate him
00:09:50.880 and they have spewed
00:09:52.300 invective and hate
00:09:53.780 for years.
00:09:56.180 And, listen,
00:09:58.400 there's invective
00:09:59.100 on both sides.
00:10:00.760 I would like to see
00:10:02.300 the political temperature
00:10:03.880 taken down.
00:10:06.800 But the Democrats
00:10:08.060 intend to go right back
00:10:09.180 to this.
00:10:09.600 This is a brief
00:10:10.580 little pause
00:10:11.940 for about 12 seconds
00:10:14.120 and by,
00:10:16.360 I don't know,
00:10:17.420 next week or the week after,
00:10:18.780 they're gonna go back
00:10:19.460 to calling him Hitler.
00:10:21.180 Because
00:10:21.660 the rage
00:10:23.940 and fury,
00:10:24.980 look,
00:10:25.380 the number of leftists
00:10:26.360 on Twitter
00:10:26.880 who were lamenting
00:10:28.460 that they were sad
00:10:29.520 that the assassinated
00:10:30.680 wasn't good at it.
00:10:31.540 Yeah,
00:10:31.740 they're basically saying
00:10:32.280 this,
00:10:32.700 and there were people
00:10:33.900 who were literally
00:10:34.280 tweeting out there
00:10:35.080 like,
00:10:35.500 hey,
00:10:35.680 this guy,
00:10:36.320 next time take lessons,
00:10:37.560 next time actually
00:10:38.380 do a good job.
00:10:39.780 And let me be clear,
00:10:41.100 as you and I talked about,
00:10:42.420 we did a podcast
00:10:43.060 immediately
00:10:43.720 in the moments
00:10:45.540 after this
00:10:46.400 assassination attempt,
00:10:48.320 I pray for Joe Biden.
00:10:50.840 I don't wish
00:10:51.500 political violence
00:10:52.440 on Democrats
00:10:53.880 or anyone else.
00:10:55.460 Now,
00:10:55.620 I want Joe Biden
00:10:56.500 defeated at the ballot box.
00:10:58.060 That,
00:10:58.180 I believe his policies
00:11:00.520 are harmful.
00:11:01.820 But there's a difference
00:11:02.780 between saying
00:11:03.480 his policies
00:11:04.120 are harmful
00:11:04.900 and saying
00:11:06.280 he's Hitler, 0.96
00:11:07.140 saying he's Mussolini,
00:11:09.060 which is what, 0.60
00:11:10.060 saying he's the devil,
00:11:11.560 which is what
00:11:12.240 the Democrats
00:11:13.360 have been doing
00:11:14.440 literally for a decade
00:11:15.960 and it's what
00:11:16.480 the media
00:11:16.840 has been doing too.
00:11:17.580 I said today,
00:11:19.100 how many cities
00:11:20.260 have Republicans
00:11:21.040 tried to destroy
00:11:21.740 after their candidate
00:11:22.540 was almost assassinated?
00:11:23.760 Just so we're clear,
00:11:24.860 zero.
00:11:25.940 What did Republicans
00:11:26.700 say today?
00:11:27.280 They said pray,
00:11:28.460 go to church,
00:11:29.720 and pray for the family
00:11:32.360 of those who lost
00:11:33.100 loved ones.
00:11:34.000 There's been no violence.
00:11:35.560 I never want to hear again
00:11:36.940 from the left,
00:11:37.520 oh,
00:11:37.720 it's the Republicans
00:11:38.700 or the extremists here.
00:11:40.360 There has been nothing
00:11:41.200 but love and compassion.
00:11:42.840 There's anger.
00:11:43.480 And we also need 1.00
00:11:46.160 to fix the damn problem. 0.99
00:11:48.820 We need to make sure 0.99
00:11:49.660 that there is
00:11:50.540 adequate protection
00:11:52.940 for Donald Trump
00:11:55.360 and for others
00:11:56.880 targeted by violence
00:11:58.080 because this was
00:12:00.320 a catastrophic failure
00:12:02.560 and we've got to make sure
00:12:04.000 it doesn't happen again.
00:12:05.020 Now,
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00:12:06.180 the rest of this conversation,
00:12:07.940 you can go back
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00:12:42.980 Now on to story number two.
00:12:45.820 Senator,
00:12:46.260 I want to ask you this.
00:12:47.200 You mentioned the Senate
00:12:48.080 only meeting.
00:12:50.300 Details,
00:12:50.980 I'm going to read this
00:12:51.540 from CBS News.
00:12:52.460 Details are emerging
00:12:53.260 about the moments
00:12:53.980 that led to the shooting.
00:12:55.000 Bystanders alerted
00:12:56.000 law enforcement
00:12:56.740 to the government
00:12:57.520 on the roof
00:12:58.080 of a building
00:12:59.100 about 410 feet away
00:13:01.180 from the stage
00:13:01.980 at least two minutes
00:13:03.440 before the first shot
00:13:05.800 was fired
00:13:06.440 at Trump.
00:13:07.820 Yep.
00:13:07.960 How vulnerable
00:13:10.280 are we
00:13:11.820 and how vulnerable
00:13:13.460 is every president
00:13:14.460 past and present
00:13:16.240 if you've got
00:13:17.960 a two-minute warning
00:13:18.900 and the job
00:13:19.900 is still not done?
00:13:20.980 Did anyone answer
00:13:21.880 that question
00:13:22.600 on the call?
00:13:23.240 Look,
00:13:23.520 we need to have,
00:13:24.340 part of the reason
00:13:24.840 we need to have a hearing
00:13:25.700 is there are a whole series
00:13:26.600 of questions
00:13:27.180 about how many threats
00:13:28.140 have there been.
00:13:28.680 How many agents
00:13:29.440 did you have assigned?
00:13:31.320 Should there be
00:13:32.240 2x,
00:13:32.840 3x,
00:13:33.400 4x as many agents
00:13:34.620 assigned to the president?
00:13:36.180 What resources,
00:13:37.300 what equipment
00:13:37.860 did you have?
00:13:39.820 The threat profile,
00:13:41.520 I'm willing to bet
00:13:42.720 that Donald Trump
00:13:44.140 is the single most
00:13:45.200 threatened individual
00:13:46.060 on the face of the planet.
00:13:47.580 Now,
00:13:47.940 I don't actually have
00:13:49.320 the facts of the threats
00:13:50.380 that have come in
00:13:51.180 to prove that is correct,
00:13:53.060 but you know what?
00:13:53.660 Secret Service does.
00:13:55.540 And I would like us
00:13:57.300 to know
00:13:57.660 what is the comparative
00:13:58.500 threat level
00:13:59.260 between Trump and Biden.
00:14:01.400 And my concern
00:14:02.820 is that,
00:14:04.560 did politics play a role?
00:14:06.740 Was it politics
00:14:07.540 or incompetence?
00:14:08.800 Because it's clear
00:14:09.560 they screwed up massively.
00:14:11.300 I can tell you
00:14:12.480 in this call,
00:14:13.240 so you had one senator
00:14:14.200 who asked,
00:14:15.620 were there drones,
00:14:16.660 yes or no?
00:14:18.060 And the answer
00:14:19.000 from the head
00:14:19.740 of the Secret Service
00:14:20.620 was,
00:14:22.180 we determined
00:14:22.840 that the risk
00:14:23.500 from that rooftop
00:14:24.820 was mitigated
00:14:25.980 by counter snipers.
00:14:28.400 Meaning no.
00:14:29.160 number one,
00:14:30.660 she didn't even 0.80
00:14:31.180 say the word no,
00:14:32.840 which is what
00:14:33.420 someone honestly
00:14:34.440 would say.
00:14:35.420 She didn't say,
00:14:36.220 well obviously
00:14:36.760 we needed drones
00:14:37.480 and we should have had them,
00:14:38.340 which is what someone
00:14:38.960 obviously would have said.
00:14:40.300 She didn't make 0.71
00:14:41.060 the obvious point,
00:14:42.240 well the roof
00:14:42.740 was slanted
00:14:43.400 so the counter snipers
00:14:44.560 couldn't see the guy
00:14:45.620 because he was
00:14:46.320 on the other end
00:14:47.000 of the slant.
00:14:48.000 And by the way,
00:14:49.440 I'm pretty sure
00:14:50.380 the roof
00:14:50.820 didn't suddenly
00:14:51.560 slant itself
00:14:52.660 in between
00:14:53.660 when they advanced
00:14:54.560 the scene
00:14:55.200 and when it occurred.
00:14:56.900 In other words,
00:14:57.380 they could have figured out
00:14:58.640 if your quote
00:15:00.220 mitigation
00:15:00.940 is counter snipers
00:15:02.700 and they don't have
00:15:03.500 a line of sight
00:15:04.480 to a place
00:15:05.320 a sniper could be,
00:15:06.560 then you don't have
00:15:07.520 effective mitigation.
00:15:09.060 She addressed
00:15:09.780 none of that
00:15:10.900 but it was
00:15:11.840 pure bureaucratese
00:15:13.980 that's a good word for it.
00:15:17.540 This is why I love
00:15:18.560 having live studio audience.
00:15:20.740 When you look
00:15:21.900 at the roof
00:15:22.440 and for the folks
00:15:23.800 listening at home
00:15:24.640 since we are
00:15:25.200 in a studio audience
00:15:25.980 and the audience
00:15:26.640 is not mic'd,
00:15:27.940 I will just say
00:15:28.880 you guys were
00:15:29.880 in a cow field
00:15:30.720 and they suggested
00:15:31.600 it was a substance
00:15:32.420 that was probably
00:15:33.080 there in large amounts.
00:15:35.000 Exactly.
00:15:36.560 When you were there
00:15:37.740 and after the shooting
00:15:39.580 happened,
00:15:40.540 you saw how close
00:15:41.520 it was.
00:15:41.860 Were you shocked?
00:15:42.920 Because I'm sure
00:15:43.460 you saw the commotion
00:15:44.140 on the rooftop.
00:15:44.780 I'm sure you knew
00:15:45.520 that's where the shots
00:15:46.480 came out from.
00:15:47.880 Then you look at it.
00:15:49.420 Is there any,
00:15:50.120 I mean,
00:15:50.900 former military,
00:15:51.660 when you look at it,
00:15:52.380 could you believe
00:15:52.940 that building
00:15:53.680 was not monitored
00:15:54.400 the way it should have been?
00:15:55.200 Well, you know,
00:15:55.700 I would just be honest,
00:15:56.560 I didn't know.
00:15:57.780 On the site,
00:15:59.520 you're in the middle
00:16:00.760 of people,
00:16:01.740 you're trying
00:16:02.340 to get people out.
00:16:03.300 So I wasn't sure
00:16:04.920 until I got back
00:16:05.820 and saw the TV projections
00:16:07.760 and the aerial photos
00:16:08.740 where it came from.
00:16:09.700 Were you shocked then
00:16:10.620 knowing that you were there
00:16:11.560 and that's how close
00:16:12.300 that building was?
00:16:12.640 Oh yeah,
00:16:13.140 absolutely,
00:16:14.220 because it's
00:16:14.680 the most obvious place.
00:16:16.780 And the idea,
00:16:17.440 just to go back
00:16:17.960 to my earlier point,
00:16:19.280 the idea that the sniper,
00:16:21.880 the 20-year-old kid
00:16:23.560 who has no experience,
00:16:26.320 would have known
00:16:27.000 the place
00:16:27.780 where he wouldn't be
00:16:29.460 in the sniper's
00:16:30.300 line of sight.
00:16:31.080 Yeah.
00:16:31.500 Right,
00:16:31.740 these are questions,
00:16:33.120 I don't know
00:16:33.660 what the answer is,
00:16:34.800 but it seems
00:16:35.520 highly unlikely
00:16:36.520 that a single person
00:16:38.220 could have pulled this off
00:16:39.420 without so much luck
00:16:41.260 and so much incompetence
00:16:42.920 and so that's why
00:16:43.700 the hearings,
00:16:44.780 to give us confidence
00:16:45.700 that we understand
00:16:47.280 what really happened here
00:16:48.200 are so incredibly important.
00:16:49.620 Well,
00:16:51.480 and look,
00:16:51.820 I will say
00:16:52.280 the FBI was on
00:16:53.540 and they're investigating
00:16:54.500 and at least
00:16:55.200 what they're reporting
00:16:56.080 right now
00:16:56.700 is they don't have evidence
00:16:57.760 of anyone else
00:16:58.400 being involved
00:16:59.100 and they're looking
00:16:59.820 at his cell phone
00:17:00.540 and his computers
00:17:01.160 and they're engaged
00:17:01.860 in the forensics
00:17:02.680 and we will find out.
00:17:04.800 We have seen
00:17:05.460 with other instances
00:17:06.400 there are times
00:17:07.300 where their lone shooters
00:17:08.340 commit horrific attacks
00:17:09.860 and it's possible
00:17:10.720 that this young man
00:17:12.240 who is an alienated loner,
00:17:15.580 that unfortunately
00:17:16.500 is a profile
00:17:17.540 we've seen
00:17:18.720 in other instances
00:17:19.560 of people
00:17:20.080 who have committed
00:17:20.660 horrific offenses
00:17:21.920 and so we'll find out
00:17:23.820 in time.
00:17:25.900 You know,
00:17:26.400 I will say
00:17:26.980 when the shooting occurs
00:17:28.280 that this is one
00:17:29.280 of the moments
00:17:29.920 I think every one of us
00:17:32.820 is going to remember
00:17:33.480 exactly where we were
00:17:34.640 when this happened
00:17:35.380 and whether we were
00:17:37.020 staring in horror
00:17:38.140 at a television set
00:17:39.340 or in my instance
00:17:41.180 I was sitting there
00:17:42.000 having a meal with Heidi
00:17:42.980 and we're staring
00:17:43.720 in horror at our phones
00:17:45.000 and hitting refresh
00:17:46.080 and by the way
00:17:47.040 it says something
00:17:48.300 that nobody was
00:17:49.920 on news sites.
00:17:50.860 You're on social media,
00:17:51.840 you're on X
00:17:52.360 because it's the fastest thing.
00:17:53.860 You're getting immediate updates
00:17:55.180 of what's happening
00:17:56.060 one after the other
00:17:57.040 after the other.
00:17:58.000 So we talked about
00:17:58.940 for example
00:17:59.580 in our last podcast
00:18:00.460 we played
00:18:01.180 from what got put up
00:18:02.380 on X
00:18:02.880 of like one of the guys
00:18:04.740 standing outside the rally
00:18:05.860 that saw this guy
00:18:06.940 climbing on the roof
00:18:07.860 and he's yelling to cops.
00:18:08.960 There's a guy
00:18:09.900 with a rifle on the roof.
00:18:11.420 We now know
00:18:11.920 a local police officer
00:18:13.100 climbed up to that roof.
00:18:14.600 He pointed the rifle
00:18:15.600 at the local police officer
00:18:17.340 and yet
00:18:18.000 and we haven't had
00:18:19.200 these questions yet
00:18:20.280 what level of communication
00:18:21.740 was there
00:18:22.540 between the local police
00:18:23.580 and the Secret Service
00:18:24.560 the instant
00:18:25.780 the local police officer
00:18:27.180 saw a sniper
00:18:28.580 on a roof
00:18:29.240 with a gun.
00:18:31.400 He should have been
00:18:32.560 yelling in his microphone
00:18:33.960 shooter, shooter, shooter
00:18:35.440 instantaneously
00:18:36.820 the Secret Service
00:18:37.720 should have pulled Trump
00:18:38.600 off of that stage
00:18:39.900 before the shooter
00:18:40.780 could aim
00:18:41.340 and they should have
00:18:42.100 taken him out
00:18:42.640 right there.
00:18:43.380 That didn't happen
00:18:44.520 which raises the question
00:18:49.340 was the Secret Service
00:18:50.620 did they have
00:18:51.940 communication
00:18:52.700 synchronized
00:18:53.580 with local law enforcement
00:18:54.880 and I will tell you
00:18:56.680 something also
00:18:57.300 so I
00:18:57.780 right before this podcast
00:18:59.480 I was going to ask you
00:19:00.260 that question
00:19:00.740 because people are going
00:19:01.560 to want to hear this
00:19:02.240 you just met
00:19:03.860 with President Trump
00:19:04.780 at the convention
00:19:06.020 for people that are listening
00:19:07.100 you got to see him
00:19:09.100 this first time
00:19:09.860 since this happened
00:19:11.120 first time I've seen him
00:19:11.980 since he was shot
00:19:12.920 and I've visited with him
00:19:14.420 what did he say?
00:19:15.960 look number one
00:19:16.780 he is happy
00:19:18.280 he is strong
00:19:19.780 his ear is bandaged
00:19:20.920 I will tell you
00:19:23.180 he
00:19:23.400 he was quiet
00:19:26.800 for a second
00:19:27.440 and he spoke
00:19:30.500 with a seriousness
00:19:31.440 that was unlike
00:19:32.660 anything I've heard
00:19:33.660 from Donald Trump
00:19:34.360 before
00:19:34.760 and he said
00:19:37.240 God saved me
00:19:37.860 that day
00:19:38.240 and
00:19:40.360 listen
00:19:41.520 I believe
00:19:42.100 that is
00:19:42.700 absolutely right
00:19:44.760 many of us
00:19:47.020 have seen
00:19:47.640 online
00:19:48.300 for example
00:19:49.040 recreations
00:19:50.000 of the angle
00:19:50.660 of the bullet
00:19:51.220 and had his head
00:19:52.820 turned
00:19:53.380 even slightly
00:19:54.320 to the right
00:19:55.000 or even slightly
00:19:55.800 to the left
00:19:56.580 he would have been killed
00:19:58.640 and it is 0.90
00:20:01.000 what I said
00:20:02.960 at the convention
00:20:03.900 last night
00:20:04.660 I thank God
00:20:06.140 for saving him
00:20:07.020 I believe God
00:20:07.740 turned his head
00:20:08.440 turned his head
00:20:09.260 so that the path
00:20:10.020 of the bullet
00:20:10.520 did not kill him
00:20:11.760 that day
00:20:12.140 and
00:20:14.080 and listen
00:20:15.620 I
00:20:15.980 this is horrific
00:20:17.420 I will say
00:20:18.380 going back to the
00:20:19.200 Reagan analogy
00:20:19.840 one of the things
00:20:20.720 Reagan always said
00:20:22.960 is that
00:20:24.180 when he survived
00:20:25.140 that assassination
00:20:25.900 attempt
00:20:26.760 that it changed
00:20:27.380 that it gave him
00:20:29.460 a seriousness
00:20:30.220 of purpose
00:20:30.920 that God spared me
00:20:32.040 for a reason
00:20:32.660 and
00:20:33.960 and
00:20:34.300 listen
00:20:34.680 I think what
00:20:35.200 President Trump
00:20:35.860 has done already
00:20:36.480 for the country
00:20:37.100 has been extraordinary
00:20:38.040 but
00:20:38.540 but
00:20:38.860 I gotta say
00:20:40.520 just visiting with him
00:20:41.440 a few minutes ago
00:20:42.320 it was powerful
00:20:43.660 in a very different way
00:20:45.180 and this was just
00:20:45.860 him and me
00:20:46.800 talking one on one
00:20:48.220 that
00:20:49.540 that it had
00:20:50.420 had a real impact
00:20:51.500 and I also
00:20:52.160 I talked to him
00:20:53.480 about this briefing
00:20:54.200 that I just left
00:20:55.140 and
00:20:55.420 and I expressed
00:20:56.580 how
00:20:57.020 deeply
00:20:58.540 frustrating
00:20:59.300 it was
00:21:01.020 now I will say
00:21:01.820 have you noticed
00:21:02.600 Trump's secret service
00:21:04.800 detail here at the convention
00:21:06.240 they look like an offensive lineman
00:21:07.540 like a whole line
00:21:09.200 they brought him
00:21:09.900 the Green Bay Packers
00:21:10.880 I'm pretty sure
00:21:11.800 the entire Green Bay Packers
00:21:13.960 are right now
00:21:14.900 surrounding Donald Trump
00:21:15.860 what is your weight
00:21:16.620 and how tall are you
00:21:17.640 yes we'll take you today
00:21:18.720 yeah it is different
00:21:20.380 final question
00:21:21.220 for each of you
00:21:22.000 as we wrap
00:21:22.620 I believe
00:21:23.440 by the way
00:21:23.620 bringing in the Packers
00:21:24.440 is probably worth
00:21:25.040 three points
00:21:25.540 at least
00:21:26.160 that was
00:21:27.460 put a glide cue there
00:21:28.760 that was smooth
00:21:29.060 how you did that
00:21:29.880 put a glide cue there
00:21:31.120 I meant for Trump
00:21:31.260 I meant for Trump
00:21:32.260 as before
00:21:34.120 if you want to hear
00:21:34.940 the rest of this conversation
00:21:36.180 on this topic
00:21:37.300 you can go back
00:21:38.180 and download the podcast
00:21:39.500 from early this week
00:21:40.340 to hear the entire thing
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00:22:11.720 I want to get back
00:22:14.520 to the big story
00:22:15.720 number three of the week
00:22:16.660 you may have missed
00:22:17.440 two final questions
00:22:19.360 A
00:22:20.060 do they delay
00:22:21.500 the convention
00:22:22.440 number one
00:22:23.600 and two
00:22:24.920 if they delay
00:22:26.180 the convention
00:22:26.860 will he step down
00:22:29.240 at the convention
00:22:30.420 and then have
00:22:31.960 that be the media
00:22:33.240 or does it
00:22:33.880 come out
00:22:34.520 before the convention
00:22:35.660 I don't think
00:22:36.940 they delay the convention
00:22:37.920 they might
00:22:38.520 but I doubt it
00:22:39.480 and they don't wait
00:22:41.120 I think this happens
00:22:42.240 within the next week
00:22:43.260 I think this could easily
00:22:44.760 happen this weekend
00:22:45.760 and frankly
00:22:46.860 look the Democrats
00:22:47.720 are smart
00:22:48.520 by delaying
00:22:49.300 until after this convention
00:22:50.380 this convention
00:22:51.080 let it happen
00:22:51.720 and then kill the momentum
00:22:52.580 has been phenomenal 0.98
00:22:53.840 and the media
00:22:55.300 will treat
00:22:56.260 whoever parachutes in
00:22:58.880 the media will treat it
00:22:59.720 as a brand new race 0.99
00:23:00.860 ignore anything
00:23:02.120 that happened before
00:23:03.340 we're brand new
00:23:04.480 starting over
00:23:05.160 and so I think
00:23:05.980 they want to get on
00:23:06.740 with that quickly
00:23:07.920 so my prediction
00:23:10.040 by the way
00:23:10.700 if you want to think
00:23:12.100 about momentous
00:23:14.160 and historic
00:23:14.920 weeks in politics
00:23:16.260 on Saturday
00:23:18.220 the former president
00:23:19.940 of the United States
00:23:20.700 was shot
00:23:21.180 the first presidential
00:23:22.940 assassination attempt
00:23:24.060 since 1981
00:23:24.840 immediately thereafter
00:23:26.800 we've had an incredibly
00:23:28.580 successful
00:23:29.340 convention
00:23:30.280 we've had a vice presidential
00:23:32.000 nominee named
00:23:33.160 and it could be
00:23:34.360 within a week
00:23:35.220 of that
00:23:35.760 because I could easily
00:23:36.940 see it being
00:23:37.620 this weekend
00:23:38.380 Joe Biden
00:23:39.840 is off the ballot
00:23:40.740 and we have a new
00:23:42.440 Democrat nominee
00:23:43.320 and there's chatter
00:23:44.600 there's some of the
00:23:45.260 pundits that are saying
00:23:45.980 oh we ought to have
00:23:46.660 an open primary
00:23:47.380 we ought to have
00:23:47.760 Democrats fighting
00:23:48.380 not going to happen
00:23:48.840 I don't believe
00:23:49.700 that will happen
00:23:50.480 they will coronate
00:23:52.360 and I think it will be
00:23:52.900 one of the two
00:23:53.440 then my bonus question
00:23:54.800 is either three or C
00:23:56.060 depending on how
00:23:56.660 you want to list these
00:23:57.600 how many times
00:23:59.820 will Kamala Harris
00:24:00.620 or Michelle Obama
00:24:01.560 debate Donald Trump
00:24:02.900 once
00:24:03.520 we'll have one debate
00:24:04.540 just one debate
00:24:05.280 and could they get away
00:24:07.180 with saying
00:24:07.580 I'm not going to debate
00:24:08.640 no
00:24:08.960 even if it's Michelle
00:24:10.300 I think they will do
00:24:12.360 one debate
00:24:12.960 I think they will feel
00:24:14.000 like it's not credible
00:24:15.360 if you don't do a debate
00:24:16.540 particularly because
00:24:18.300 if you're Trump
00:24:18.900 do you push for two
00:24:19.660 I would
00:24:21.220 yeah
00:24:21.960 I'd say it's a reset
00:24:23.040 we're doing two of these
00:24:23.900 suckers before November
00:24:24.800 but I don't think
00:24:25.460 they'll end up doing it
00:24:26.340 look I think Trump
00:24:27.420 may well push for two
00:24:28.560 part of the reason
00:24:29.480 if you're a Democrat
00:24:30.300 everyone concedes
00:24:31.900 Trump mopped the floor
00:24:33.000 with Biden
00:24:33.560 I think as a Democrat
00:24:34.640 you don't want that
00:24:35.420 to be the only debate
00:24:36.320 if you're putting
00:24:36.900 someone new
00:24:37.600 you need something
00:24:38.500 credible
00:24:39.020 I will tell you
00:24:41.140 I just came from
00:24:41.860 a meeting that
00:24:42.500 J.D. Vance met
00:24:43.460 with all the senators
00:24:44.340 we're congratulating him
00:24:45.520 and he did have
00:24:46.540 a very funny thing
00:24:47.640 he shared with us
00:24:48.440 he said
00:24:48.840 you know
00:24:49.120 he was talking
00:24:49.660 to Trump about
00:24:51.080 well okay
00:24:52.080 who are we going to face
00:24:53.660 is it going to be
00:24:54.220 someone new
00:24:54.740 is it going to be Kamala
00:24:55.640 and J.D. said
00:24:57.640 well look Mr. President
00:24:59.140 I said yes
00:25:00.420 assuming I got to
00:25:01.600 debate Kamala
00:25:02.660 if they actually
00:25:03.340 bring in someone
00:25:04.020 that's a really good
00:25:04.720 debater
00:25:05.120 I may have to
00:25:06.020 rethink this
00:25:06.780 and Trump said
00:25:07.580 no backing out
00:25:08.320 you accepted the thing
00:25:09.260 you're stuck
00:25:09.800 you ain't going anywhere
00:25:11.800 but look
00:25:12.780 that
00:25:13.080 I
00:25:14.700 I think
00:25:16.200 they'll do it fast
00:25:17.280 by the way
00:25:17.940 I will point out
00:25:18.800 the night of the debate
00:25:20.080 when you and I
00:25:20.640 did a podcast
00:25:21.280 immediately thereafter
00:25:22.240 we said that night
00:25:23.520 this is the most
00:25:25.220 consequential
00:25:26.140 presidential debate
00:25:27.320 in American history
00:25:28.240 and the reason
00:25:29.020 we said that
00:25:29.940 is because we said
00:25:31.500 I believe
00:25:32.400 this will change
00:25:34.200 the names on the ballot
00:25:35.260 in November
00:25:35.800 and that has never happened
00:25:36.740 there's never been a debate
00:25:37.800 that changed the names
00:25:39.780 on the ballot
00:25:40.380 and that's exactly
00:25:41.240 what that debate did
00:25:42.080 it took a few weeks
00:25:42.800 to play out
00:25:43.300 but I think it is imminent
00:25:45.340 I think it is within days
00:25:46.820 to everybody
00:25:47.800 that's here in the hall
00:25:48.860 thank you guys
00:25:49.480 for joining us
00:25:50.500 it's nice to do a show
00:25:52.220 here live at the convention
00:25:53.300 Senator Cruz
00:25:54.680 and I do this
00:25:55.160 Monday, Wednesday, Friday
00:25:55.960 hit that subscribe
00:25:56.740 auto download button
00:25:58.420 wherever you are
00:25:59.540 and I have a feeling
00:26:00.520 how do you subscribe
00:26:01.540 because as you know
00:26:03.160 my dad is 85
00:26:04.160 my father is my hero
00:26:05.860 but my father points out
00:26:07.060 all the time
00:26:07.480 when I use the word subscribe
00:26:08.600 he says people
00:26:09.920 my generation
00:26:10.640 think magazine subscriptions
00:26:11.880 they think you're going
00:26:12.520 to charge us
00:26:13.140 it doesn't cost any money
00:26:14.200 it doesn't cost any money
00:26:15.260 and you put
00:26:16.320 so alright
00:26:16.920 a line I say all the time
00:26:18.300 on the trail
00:26:18.720 I say if you're under 40
00:26:19.800 subscribe to the podcast
00:26:21.440 if you're over 40
00:26:22.740 call your kids
00:26:23.580 or call your grandkids
00:26:24.460 and ask them to help you
00:26:25.440 subscribe to the podcast
00:26:26.420 but it's real simple
00:26:27.480 and I see a bunch of young people
00:26:28.900 they're laughing
00:26:29.460 you guys know how to do this
00:26:30.880 and like call your parents
00:26:32.540 call your grandparents
00:26:33.300 and say okay
00:26:33.860 give me your phone
00:26:34.600 actually don't even tell them
00:26:35.860 just take their phone
00:26:36.860 and say okay
00:26:37.360 it's easier
00:26:37.860 here pull it up
00:26:38.780 pull up podcast
00:26:39.780 hit subscribe
00:26:40.540 and it magically appears
00:26:42.820 you can set it to download
00:26:43.940 it'll magically appear
00:26:45.040 and it's every Monday
00:26:45.880 every Wednesday
00:26:46.700 it's every Friday
00:26:47.480 and we do this
00:26:48.860 number one
00:26:49.600 if you subscribe
00:26:51.460 to the podcast
00:26:52.160 you know what's happening
00:26:53.180 we predicted this
00:26:54.400 ten months ago
00:26:55.440 and by the way
00:26:56.080 nobody else was predicting this
00:26:57.380 we were
00:26:57.940 do we get a letter
00:26:58.660 from the media
00:26:59.200 when they thought
00:26:59.840 we were moonbacks
00:27:00.400 apologizing
00:27:01.260 no
00:27:01.620 okay
00:27:02.060 but number two
00:27:04.000 this is designed
00:27:05.560 to equip you
00:27:07.360 to give you the tools
00:27:08.960 when you're talking
00:27:09.680 to your friends
00:27:10.280 your family
00:27:10.940 young people
00:27:11.800 when you're talking
00:27:12.340 to your classmates
00:27:12.940 in school
00:27:13.480 and they're arguing
00:27:14.600 and to give you the facts
00:27:16.260 that the corporate media
00:27:17.460 never reports
00:27:18.120 that's what we try to do
00:27:19.640 three times a week
00:27:20.820 on this
00:27:21.520 is this is what
00:27:22.580 you need to know
00:27:23.540 to go and persuade
00:27:25.220 and win
00:27:26.020 and I promise
00:27:26.820 we will have an emergency pod
00:27:28.260 if and when
00:27:30.820 Joe Biden
00:27:31.760 drops out
00:27:32.560 that's a fair prediction
00:27:34.460 I think that is
00:27:35.340 a fair prediction
00:27:36.060 grab it
00:27:36.980 wherever you can
00:27:38.060 Donald Trump's speech
00:27:39.520 tonight
00:27:39.860 any prediction
00:27:41.000 last minute
00:27:41.680 will he needle
00:27:42.660 Joe Biden
00:27:43.220 look I think
00:27:44.560 it is going to be
00:27:45.340 substantially tamped down
00:27:47.280 I think Saturday
00:27:49.220 changed the speech
00:27:50.260 in fact I know
00:27:50.960 Saturday changed the speech
00:27:52.280 that I think
00:27:53.440 prior to Saturday
00:27:54.380 the speech
00:27:54.920 was going to be
00:27:55.840 quite combative
00:27:57.120 and I expect
00:27:58.980 to see
00:27:59.840 a lot of unity
00:28:01.440 a lot more
00:28:02.540 language seeking
00:28:03.800 to bring people together
00:28:04.780 and look
00:28:05.400 we've seen this
00:28:06.920 throughout the convention
00:28:07.820 we talked about
00:28:09.840 we did a live podcast
00:28:11.080 at the convention
00:28:11.780 yesterday
00:28:12.280 I talked about
00:28:13.000 when I visited
00:28:13.560 with President Trump
00:28:14.340 yesterday
00:28:14.740 and I think
00:28:16.580 Saturday really
00:28:17.360 had an impact
00:28:18.000 on him
00:28:18.280 had an impact
00:28:18.960 I mean he kind of
00:28:19.660 pulled me aside
00:28:20.460 and said really quietly
00:28:21.460 just said
00:28:22.020 God save me
00:28:23.420 and it was
00:28:24.740 it was quiet
00:28:25.740 and serious
00:28:26.520 in a way
00:28:27.360 that I think
00:28:28.900 is really consequential
00:28:30.040 and listen
00:28:32.100 I think it's
00:28:32.980 you can't go through
00:28:34.780 what he went through
00:28:35.640 Saturday
00:28:36.400 having been shot
00:28:37.840 and having been
00:28:38.580 within a half inch
00:28:39.720 of being killed 0.99
00:28:41.000 amen 0.92
00:28:41.460 without really thinking
00:28:43.280 about God Almighty
00:28:44.300 turning his head
00:28:45.040 because I believe
00:28:45.920 that happened
00:28:46.480 I believe it was
00:28:47.240 divine providence
00:28:48.400 that turned his head
00:28:49.360 and had it been
00:28:49.820 slightly one way
00:28:50.660 or the other
00:28:51.180 we would be having
00:28:52.460 a dramatically
00:28:52.940 different conversation
00:28:53.840 As always
00:28:54.980 thank you for listening
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00:28:58.360 Ben Ferguson
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