Verdict with Ted Cruz - Biden about to be GONE. Who's Next？

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00:00:06.180 It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.

00:00:08.360 Ben Ferguson with you live from

00:00:10.060 the Republican National Convention.

00:00:13.100 And we've got

00:00:14.160 an audience out there. I love it.

00:00:16.580 Senator, this

00:00:18.000 is the first morning

00:00:19.620 I have ever woken up

00:00:21.780 truly believing that

00:00:24.080 Joe Biden is going to

00:00:25.820 drop out of

00:00:27.980 this presidential race. I've never

00:00:29.740 believed it was possible before this

00:00:31.740 morning. I want to get

00:00:33.740 your initial reaction to that. Well, listen,

00:00:35.900 if only someone could have predicted that before this

00:00:37.740 week. I know, right?

00:00:39.560 So, for regular Verdict

00:00:41.700 listeners, you will recall that this podcast

00:00:44.020 ten months ago,

00:00:46.020 ten months ago, we predicted

00:00:47.900 that Joe Biden would drop out of this race,

00:00:49.960 that the Democrats would throw him out.

00:00:51.400 Yeah. And we predicted ten

00:00:53.380 months ago that he'd be replaced by Michelle Obama.

00:00:55.600 Yes. And at the time,

00:00:57.320 the corporate media treated that prediction

00:00:59.500 is utter moon

00:01:01.180 bat. Insanity. Insanity. 0.92

00:01:03.500 Yeah. Like, completely nuts.

00:01:05.720 Do we want a prize for ten months

00:01:07.200 ago, by the way? I've got to give you the brainchild

00:01:09.080 of it. Ten months ago. I'll give you full credit.

00:01:10.940 Do we get a prize for that? I think we

00:01:12.780 certainly should get a prize, but look,

00:01:15.160 I think it's going to happen. I think it is going to happen

00:01:17.340 within the next week.

00:01:18.860 And we have seen

00:01:21.380 we've seen the momentum

00:01:24.400 building and building and building.

00:01:26.460 And look, I've got to tell you, and you and I have talked about

00:01:28.460 this, I have mixed sentiments at this

00:01:30.420 convention. On one

00:01:32.380 side, I am thrilled,

00:01:34.460 I am excited because the party is

00:01:36.380 unified. It's unified at a level

00:01:38.100 I've never seen. I've been to a lot of

00:01:40.340 conventions. You've been to a lot of conventions. What was your first one?

00:01:42.620 1992. I was at

00:01:44.140 1992. I had just

00:01:46.100 graduated from college. I was 21 years old.

00:01:48.740 1992 was in

00:01:50.100 Houston. Oh, well there you go.

00:01:52.120 And it was actually, it was the

00:01:54.020 last public speech Ronald Reagan

00:01:55.920 ever gave. And actually just after the

00:01:57.980 convention, they announced he had Alzheimer's. So it was

00:01:59.960 his last public address. Yeah.

00:02:01.840 And so for his speech, it was very cool.

00:02:03.840 Texas delegation was in front because it was in Houston.

00:02:06.780 And they decided

00:02:08.060 they wanted all the college kids down front.

00:02:10.100 They wanted to show that the Republican Party

00:02:11.860 is young and vibrant. So all the college

00:02:14.000 kids, we were put up front.

00:02:15.760 So I was in the front row for Reagan's last

00:02:17.780 public address. I'm jealous.

00:02:19.420 And here's something really cool.

00:02:21.820 At the time, Heidi was

00:02:23.700 in college. She was at Claremont McKenna. She was

00:02:25.640 the president of the college Republicans at Claremont

00:02:27.740 McKenna out in California. She was

00:02:29.740 at the convention and she was in

00:02:31.720 the front row with the Texas delegation. And we didn't

00:02:33.840 meet. I was going to say, did you meet? No. We didn't

00:02:35.740 meet until eight years later. Wow.

00:02:37.500 But every time I see photographs of that convention,

00:02:39.760 I like scan them to see if someone somehow got

00:02:41.760 a picture of Heidi and me standing near

00:02:43.820 each other because we were very close to each other. So

00:02:45.760 the point is, I've

00:02:47.820 been to a lot of these. I have never

00:02:50.040 seen unity like this

00:02:51.640 last couple of days. As you know,

00:02:53.840 I've done a ton of media interviews and you

00:02:55.720 listen to the reporters. They're losing

00:02:57.720 their minds. They're so unhappy. They're like,

00:02:59.600 you guys are so

00:03:01.240 unified. And they're furious.

00:03:03.960 They don't like it. We know how to

00:03:05.860 screw things up well in the Republican Party when it comes

00:03:07.920 to unity. This does feel very

00:03:09.800 different. Everyone is on the same

00:03:11.960 page. Everyone is united. Everyone

00:03:13.880 wants Trump to win in November. Everyone

00:03:15.680 wants to win the Senate. Everyone wants to win the

00:03:17.700 House. But you

00:03:19.840 and I have also talked about this. I'll tell you

00:03:21.680 what I'm scared about. I'm

00:03:23.820 scared about overconfidence. I couldn't

00:03:25.740 agree more. Look, there

00:03:27.720 is an aspect of this convention that

00:03:29.600 feels like a celebration. And I

00:03:31.640 get that. But my

00:03:33.760 message to everyone at this convention is

00:03:35.760 it is not time to celebrate. We'll celebrate

00:03:37.960 after Election Day.

00:03:40.020 We've got work to do. We have a job

00:03:42.100 in front of us.

00:03:44.000 And listen, I think we're going to come out of this convention.

00:03:46.220 I think we'll see a bounce in the polls.

00:03:48.480 And then I think within

00:03:49.980 days or

00:03:51.820 even hours,

00:03:53.900 the Democrats are going to announce Joe Biden

00:03:56.000 is no longer our nominee. They're going to pull him

00:03:57.940 off. And the media

00:03:59.940 is going to reset the entire

00:04:02.040 race. They're going to do everything they can

00:04:03.860 to take away the momentum from this convention.

00:04:05.800 And so nobody here should get overconfident

00:04:08.180 because this becomes

00:04:09.840 very, very dangerous.

00:04:11.580 And the media is going to do everything they can to say,

00:04:13.780 well, Joe was old, but now we're

00:04:15.840 going to replace him with someone young. Everything

00:04:17.700 solved. Move on forward.

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00:06:24.540 972 Patriot. The media's already started

00:06:27.900 to write the obituary. Earlier today

00:06:29.740 MSNBC. It helps because he's been dead

00:06:31.980 for three years. Very true. They said on

00:06:35.640 I want you to listen to this clip because

00:06:37.880 it's an interesting clip. And they said

00:06:40.160 on MSNBC they're so ready to be done

00:06:41.760 with him. They said Joe Biden obviously

00:06:44.180 has COVID. And they said he is quote

00:06:47.200 self-isolating both medically and

00:06:52.180 politically. Listen. Get up to date

00:06:55.380 though with what's happening in

00:06:57.840 Milwaukee. Also what you're hearing

00:07:00.580 from the Biden campaign. Yeah we'll

00:07:03.780 start with the Biden campaign Joe and

00:07:06.220 exactly right about the sequencing. So

00:07:08.860 on your air I talked about the fact

00:07:10.920 three weeks ago that there was an

00:07:13.440 effort among top Democrats to give

00:07:16.340 President Biden the chance to walk off

00:07:18.800 the stage. They said he is proud. He's

00:07:21.540 stubborn. We love him. We appreciate

00:07:24.040 him. We want to give him the chance to

00:07:26.060 walk off the stage. President Biden in

00:07:29.360 the view of these top Democrats did not

00:07:31.320 take the hint. And the way that one top 1.00

00:07:34.980 Democrat someone very close to the West

00:07:37.420 Wing put it to me Sunday as I sat here

00:07:40.340 on the floor of this hall with my laptop

00:07:42.700 doing reporting at the Republican

00:07:44.960 convention about what was happening in

00:07:46.960 the Democratic Party. They said we don't

00:07:49.600 want to humiliate him. That was the

00:07:52.600 effort. Then we saw this sequence

00:07:55.740 yesterday and is my brilliant colleague

00:07:58.980 Zach Basu puts it at the top of Axios

00:08:01.680 this morning. President Biden is now

00:08:04.260 self-isolating both medically and

00:08:07.600 politically. I mean that's an obituary to

00:08:11.460 his entire career. And he says what we've

00:08:14.160 seen. Let's talk about what we've seen.

00:08:16.800 Every aspect of the Democratic Party has

00:08:20.300 now turned on him entirely. Turned on him

00:08:21.880 completely. You've got the Clintons. They're

00:08:24.180 saying you're done. The Obamas saying you're

00:08:26.480 done. Schumer saying you're done. Pelosi

00:08:28.880 saying you're done. Jeffrey saying you're

00:08:31.220 done. Hollywood. The media saying you're

00:08:32.880 done. The donors saying you're done. Hollywood

00:08:35.360 saying you're done. Everyone. How the hell does

00:08:37.360 this guy. He won't survive this. He doesn't.

00:08:40.480 And look you and I we predicted this 10

00:08:44.000 months ago and then the night of the

00:08:47.780 debate you and I did a podcast the night

00:08:49.880 of the debate immediately after the debate

00:08:51.760 and I said that night Biden's done. He is

00:08:54.780 no longer the nominee. He will be chased

00:08:57.220 out. It'll take a few weeks for it to

00:08:58.780 happen. But this is what's going to happen.

00:09:01.160 Why? Because the Democrats are terrified

00:09:03.320 they're going to lose. Now it's worth noting

00:09:04.840 none of them care that we have a

00:09:07.900 commander in chief right now with

00:09:09.320 dementia. Has a single Democrat said

00:09:11.260 well gosh if he's so mentally diminished

00:09:14.540 he needs to resign as president. Nobody 0.77

00:09:16.820 said that. Not a single Democrat.

00:09:19.140 Apparently they're fine with him having

00:09:20.800 his finger on the button. Now mind you

00:09:23.120 there comes a point where you take the

00:09:24.460 keys away from grandpa. Yes. But it's

00:09:27.020 even scarier if the keys are attached to

00:09:28.760 ICBMs. Yes. But the Democrats aren't

00:09:31.640 doing that. The only reason they're

00:09:33.340 bailing on Biden is because the

00:09:35.960 American people in the debate saw that 0.99

00:09:37.760 and said holy crap that man can't tie 0.99

00:09:39.400 his shoes. And we're going to lose. And 0.99

00:09:41.620 they're suddenly protecting their rear

00:09:43.320 end. Now when you and I have been

00:09:45.720 predicting it people have asked how does

00:09:47.420 this happen. And you go back go back to

00:09:49.080 Richard Nixon. Yep. When Richard Nixon

00:09:51.680 stepped down listen he didn't do so

00:09:53.600 because he just said well gosh I want to

00:09:55.220 leave. He did so because a half dozen

00:09:58.220 old bulls from the Senate old Republican

00:10:00.040 senators went to the Oval Office and

00:10:01.940 they said Mr. President you're done. And

00:10:05.240 he resisted and let's be clear they

00:10:07.040 didn't just rely on persuasion. They

00:10:10.560 said if you don't resign the House is

00:10:13.520 going to impeach you and we're going to

00:10:14.840 convict you. So you will be removed and 0.96

00:10:16.860 your only choice is do you want to do it

00:10:19.400 voluntarily or do you want us to throw

00:10:21.120 you out of office. And that ultimately

00:10:22.560 led to the presidential resignation. The press

00:10:25.000 conference where he said I'm resigning. Right.

00:10:26.720 Now this in this situation we've seen the

00:10:30.840 equivalent of the old bulls the gray

00:10:32.520 beards of the Democrat Party all of the

00:10:34.620 constituent groups one after the other

00:10:36.180 after the other go to Biden and say get

00:10:37.660 out and get out get out. They initially

00:10:39.300 did so quietly. Quietly didn't work. They

00:10:42.360 then have done so more and more publicly

00:10:44.220 and by the way if Biden were to dig in if

00:10:47.400 he were to say I don't care I'm not

00:10:49.080 going. They have a hammer. 25th. The 25th

00:10:53.720 Amendment. Understand how the 25th

00:10:55.240 Amendment works. All it takes is the

00:10:57.500 vice president and a majority of the

00:10:59.500 cabinet and the vice president the

00:11:01.640 majority of the cabinet if they sign a

00:11:04.120 letter declaring that the president is

00:11:05.580 unfit for office he is removed from

00:11:07.380 office. Instantly. Instantly. Now he can

00:11:10.640 file a letter saying no I am fit for

00:11:12.700 office and then it goes to Congress and

00:11:14.180 it takes two-thirds of both houses but

00:11:15.780 you know what Pelosi's turned on him

00:11:17.180 Schumer's turned on him the Democrats are

00:11:19.060 terrified. So they would accept it is

00:11:21.300 what you're saying. Yes. So let me

00:11:23.620 ask you this. If he doesn't drop out. It's

00:11:26.380 not going to come to that. He's going to

00:11:27.660 drop out. So you think he will. Yeah. I don't

00:11:29.380 think it's going to come to that but

00:11:30.560 that's the hammer. They don't want to

00:11:33.320 threaten that and look the whole line

00:11:35.380 about dignity. Yeah. They don't want to

00:11:38.120 have to threaten that but he is gone and

00:11:41.480 so and in my view there's lots of

00:11:43.640 speculation about who the replacement

00:11:45.540 will be. I believe the replacement will

00:11:47.280 be one of two human beings. It will

00:11:50.600 either be Kamala Harris or it will be 0.92

00:11:53.360 Michelle Obama. Those are the only two

00:11:56.360 human beings I believe that will be at

00:11:57.940 the top of the ticket. And if Kamala gets

00:11:59.460 it it's only because of logistics? So

00:12:02.220 actually I think the logistics argument

00:12:04.160 is completely overstated. So explain that

00:12:06.760 let's let's explain the people logistics

00:12:08.100 argument. The argument is. Well hold on

00:12:10.100 before we do that let me explain why it's

00:12:12.080 Kamala or Michelle. Kamala is next in line. 0.99

00:12:16.040 Now a lot of Democrats recognize that

00:12:19.140 Kamala has limitations as a candidate. And 0.56

00:12:21.700 so there's some Democrats that are like

00:12:23.180 uh-oh what are we doing? So you people

00:12:24.520 hear people talking about Gavin Newsom. I

00:12:27.060 think the chances that Gavin Newsom is at

00:12:28.880 the top of the ticket are 0.00 percent. And

00:12:32.460 the reason why it's not complicated. The

00:12:35.020 Democrat Party is structurally unable to

00:12:39.460 push aside an African-American woman and 1.00

00:12:41.560 replace her with a white guy. Like their 1.00

00:12:44.020 party would implode. They would. I mean you

00:12:46.640 talk about civil wars. They would have a 0.60

00:12:48.200 civil war with muskets. Like a literal 0.99

00:12:49.960 civil war. They can't do that. Which means

00:12:53.360 all of the names bandied about. None of

00:12:55.660 them. You could have a primary and someone

00:12:57.640 defeats her. But if it's anointing and a

00:13:00.140 successor I don't believe their party can

00:13:01.920 do that. Which means the only human being

00:13:04.540 on planet earth who could push Kamala

00:13:06.140 aside is Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama is

00:13:08.800 obviously also an African-American woman. But 1.00

00:13:11.220 an African-American woman with much higher

00:13:12.860 approval ratings and I think a much more

00:13:15.480 dangerous candidate. Ten months ago I said

00:13:18.000 and I still say it today. If I were a

00:13:19.680 Democrat I would be all in. I would be

00:13:23.060 begging Michelle because I got to tell you

00:13:25.400 look sitting here as a Republican who

00:13:27.560 desperately wants us to win in November

00:13:29.420 that scares the living daylights out of me.

00:13:31.500 If Michelle is the nominee it is dangerous

00:13:34.200 and everyone here better understand we're in

00:13:36.580 for the fight of our life if it's her. Now

00:13:38.460 what is interesting is how much the

00:13:41.040 Democrat Party is circling the wagons

00:13:42.860 behind Kamala. And I think Kamala has

00:13:45.220 risen. Is that because it's easier

00:13:47.840 logistically? That's where I ask that

00:13:49.260 question because the money's there. The

00:13:51.240 campaign's there. It's seamless. It's just

00:13:54.100 seamless. Balderdash. Balderdash. Tell me why.

00:13:55.800 Complete nonsense. So people are saying oh

00:13:57.360 well Kamala is the only one who can access

00:14:00.220 the money Biden-Harris has raised and so

00:14:02.200 that's why they'll do it. What utter

00:14:05.120 look imagine. Because that's what everybody's

00:14:08.000 saying. So tell me. But everyone's saying it

00:14:10.000 doesn't mean it's true. It doesn't actually

00:14:12.360 hasn't run a presidential campaign. It

00:14:14.200 doesn't know how things operate. It's

00:14:17.000 true. Michelle Obama can't access the money

00:14:19.140 in the Biden coffers. What happens the day

00:14:22.000 Michelle Obama's announces the nominee? I'm

00:14:24.980 assuming they would start the campaign

00:14:26.620 start raising money. And every Democrat

00:14:28.900 every grassroots Democrat every activist

00:14:31.020 every donor is suddenly goes from despondency

00:14:35.500 depression despair. They're resigned. Crap

00:14:38.360 we're gonna lose. Trump's gonna be president. We're 1.00

00:14:41.160 gonna lose the Senate. We're gonna lose the

00:14:42.300 House. They're in misery. And they wake up

00:14:44.840 and hallelujah hallelujah Michelle Obama is 0.91

00:14:47.080 riding in to save the day. And a billion

00:14:49.080 dollars of free press. And they would raise

00:14:52.040 a billion dollars within three weeks. Every

00:14:55.600 Democrat billionaire goes holy crap we've 0.98

00:14:58.600 saved the world. Get me my checkbook. And 0.99

00:15:00.720 we're talking Michelle would raise it in

00:15:03.000 hundred million dollar chunks. There is no

00:15:05.760 money problem. Plus all the free media. And

00:15:08.760 the free media. So it is massive. The only

00:15:11.560 thing that can save us from that is if

00:15:13.140 Michelle says no. And I am praying. Look

00:15:15.500 Michelle. You and I are not close to put

00:15:18.580 it mildly. But I just want to say man you

00:15:22.240 got a good life. Yeah. You're kicking back.

00:15:25.100 Martha's Vineyard is really nice in the

00:15:26.940 summertime. I've told I don't I've never

00:15:28.620 been there but I'm told it's nice. But like

00:15:31.380 you're kicking back. You're sipping

00:15:33.460 Chardonnay. You're on a yacht. You're on a

00:15:35.960 private jet. You're palling around with

00:15:37.720 movie stars. People like you. Everybody loves

00:15:40.540 you. You don't want to deal with the pesky. You

00:15:43.920 don't want to deal with us. You don't want to

00:15:45.480 deal with politicians. You can't stand us. So

00:15:48.300 just live your life as a movie star and a

00:15:52.380 celebrity and don't bother with the gritty

00:15:54.840 mess. Now I don't know if that's persuasive

00:15:57.040 to her or not. Yeah. I will tell you I've

00:15:59.540 heard people say confidently Michelle

00:16:02.680 doesn't want it. Maybe. And here's why I say

00:16:07.440 maybe. When they say Michelle doesn't want

00:16:09.900 it they say well she said she didn't want

00:16:11.280 it. Okay well you know politicians you

00:16:12.680 could always believe what they say. Like

00:16:14.780 when they say they don't want something

00:16:15.940 it's always telling the truth. But I don't

00:16:18.160 want it. I don't want it. But I do get to be on

00:16:20.040 Air Force One when I want it. So they base it on

00:16:22.880 the fact that Michelle did not run in

00:16:24.920 2020. Well that's true. But it is a very

00:16:28.700 different decision to say do I want to run

00:16:30.760 for president? Do I want to spend two years

00:16:33.000 going through the muck? Do I want to go

00:16:35.540 primary? Do I want to go through every

00:16:37.180 county in Iowa? Do I want to go all over

00:16:38.720 New Hampshire? Do I want to go all over

00:16:39.880 South Carolina? Do I want to raise money

00:16:41.420 non-stop? Do I want to spend two years of

00:16:43.920 my life? It is all consuming. By the way

00:16:46.700 Michelle knows it. Yeah. She's witnessed it

00:16:48.620 twice. She went side by side with Barack so

00:16:51.200 she knows exactly what's entitled, entailed

00:16:53.660 in that. That is a very different decision

00:16:56.860 than a three month, two and a half month

00:16:59.120 campaign. From being told, Michelle we will

00:17:01.500 have a coronation. Everyone will sing your

00:17:03.920 hosannas. We will hand you the nomination.

00:17:06.940 You'd give one speech. You'd do a debate.

00:17:09.300 You'd do a couple of rallies. And suddenly

00:17:11.100 you're president of the United States. Yeah.

00:17:13.220 There are very few people on planet Earth

00:17:15.400 that if you walked up and said okay

00:17:16.860 we'll make you president right now. All

00:17:20.080 right. We got a studio audience here. How

00:17:22.440 many of you would say yes if we offered

00:17:24.860 you? Would you like to be president? Would

00:17:26.160 you say yes if they were? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

00:17:27.960 Right now we're getting nods. There's like

00:17:29.980 yeah. Yeah. Okay. One guy said no. One guy

00:17:33.520 said no. One guy said no on everyone here. He

00:17:36.520 lives at Martha's Vineyard by the way. I guarantee

00:17:38.240 it. All right. All right. It's an unusual cat

00:17:40.940 that would say no to being offered the

00:17:44.220 coronation. So Michelle scares me. But I 0.98

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00:19:46.780 Democratic Party is in disarray. They're

00:19:49.140 depressed. The donors are depressed. They

00:19:51.760 feel like they're about to lose. I think

00:19:53.960 anybody that gets this opportunity, that

00:19:56.780 could be Kamala Harris, will reinvigorate the 1.00

00:20:00.680 checkbooks, will reinvigorate the party,

00:20:03.260 will reinvigorate every candidate that's

00:20:05.340 down ballot because it's a reset button. I

00:20:08.500 think the bump that we get out of this

00:20:09.840 convention could instantly disappear with

00:20:11.960 Kamala Harris because of all of the news

00:20:14.400 you're talking about. And I think the amount

00:20:15.840 of money she'll raise, but I also think the

00:20:17.840 thing is with Kamala is she will also get a 1.00

00:20:20.360 billion dollars of free media. The media will

00:20:22.920 obsess over her. It changes the race 0.98

00:20:25.720 completely. Do you agree? I absolutely do.

00:20:28.900 And I will say, look, Republicans, people at

00:20:30.800 this convention think rightly that Kamala is

00:20:34.940 a train wreck, that she's been an absolute 0.69

00:20:36.760 disaster. She's the border czar, except she 1.00

00:20:39.040 only went to the border once as vice

00:20:40.420 president. She didn't actually even go to 1.00

00:20:41.640 the Rio Grande Valley. Everything she's

00:20:43.600 touched has been a disaster. She got

00:20:45.120 clobbered in the Democratic primary. There

00:20:47.000 are lots of reasons to say Kamala is not

00:20:49.060 very good at this, but you made the exact

00:20:52.380 right point. Imagine it with a billion

00:20:55.720 dollars of free media with every media

00:20:58.560 outlet hyperventilating saying, oh, she's a 1.00

00:21:02.280 combination of Mother Teresa, Oprah and

00:21:05.520 Gandhi all combined. Like you will see

00:21:08.560 reporters running after her, throwing their

00:21:11.680 panties at her. And by the way, that's just 1.00

00:21:13.580 the men. Those identify as men. Let's be

00:21:18.580 clear about that. Those that identify as

00:21:21.020 men, right? You never know nowadays. And it

00:21:25.700 is a dangerous thing. So listen, I think we

00:21:28.140 beat Kamala, but everyone here needs to be

00:21:31.380 aware we're not just going against Kamala. We're

00:21:33.500 going against every corporate media outlet.

00:21:35.940 We're going against all of Hollywood. We're

00:21:37.820 going against big tech, which will elevate

00:21:40.240 everything. They will do everything they

00:21:42.180 can. And their narrative will be, you know

00:21:44.560 what? They'll say Biden was a great

00:21:47.860 historic president, but he got too old. We

00:21:49.880 all get too old. And we fix that problem

00:21:52.300 now. Now Kamala is young and vigorous. She

00:21:55.740 smiles a lot. She laughs and it drives us

00:21:57.860 crazy. Yes. Get ready to hear that laugh so

00:22:00.700 often. You're going you're going to wake up

00:22:03.740 at night screaming and hearing the cackle.

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00:22:35.600 They also believe that she's going to

00:22:39.420 bring women together for two reasons. One,

00:22:42.400 they're going to make Roe v. Wade an issue

00:22:43.740 again and try to really bring feminists and 1.00

00:22:46.540 women out on that. That'll be a core point 1.00

00:22:48.920 of her campaign. But two, just the overall

00:22:51.720 history of women and breaking the glass 0.96

00:22:55.340 ceiling. She also is a minority. Yeah. So 1.00

00:22:58.380 you would have a minority female who would 1.00

00:23:01.280 make history while in reengaging women

00:23:05.480 voters in the Democratic Party and women

00:23:08.420 that maybe are swing voters. I think that's

00:23:10.540 actually very, very dangerous. It is

00:23:13.260 exceptionally dangerous. And let's

00:23:14.780 complicate it a little more. If it is

00:23:17.020 Michelle, if it is Kamala, who's the VP?

00:23:20.600 I, it's a great question. I honestly have

00:23:23.220 not thought about it much. I say that

00:23:25.780 here's why I'm like, do you pick a man? Do

00:23:27.900 you pick another woman? Do you pick 0.99

00:23:30.380 someone that's young? Do you pick someone

00:23:32.580 that's older? That's not a threat to you if

00:23:34.240 you don't do well in four years? I mean,

00:23:36.080 I've been so focused on Joe Biden and I'm

00:23:39.040 going, who's on the short list? I don't

00:23:40.760 know if they would even know who their

00:23:42.060 short list is yet. Who do you have? Yeah. So

00:23:43.840 I have a couple of thoughts. One possibility

00:23:46.300 that is a real possibility is Gavin

00:23:48.560 Newsom. I don't believe Gavin Newsom

00:23:50.640 could be at the top of the ticket, but I

00:23:52.240 believe he would be a very credible

00:23:53.940 fundraiser VP choice for either, either

00:23:57.800 Michelle or Kamala. That, that, that is a

00:23:59.760 VP choice. And mostly Newsom comes with,

00:24:03.280 with, with just a crap ton of California

00:24:04.920 money. And he's a good looking guy. He's

00:24:07.240 smooth. He's slick. Gavin Newsom reminds

00:24:10.120 me of the comment about Bill Clinton. He's

00:24:12.760 an unusually good liar. And, and in, in 0.98

00:24:15.560 Democrat politics, that is a really good

00:24:17.740 attribute. He is a, a gifted and talented

00:24:20.840 liar. Now I've also pointed out, I 1.00

00:24:22.860 consider Gavin, Gavin Newsom. I, I want

00:24:25.020 to actually name him Texas Realtor of

00:24:28.040 the Year because nobody has sold more

00:24:31.020 homes in the state of Texas than Gavin

00:24:33.180 Newsom. I mean, he could sell homes

00:24:34.700 everywhere in Texas, but I'll also point

00:24:38.000 out, all right, so Politico Playbook,

00:24:40.020 which is every political junkie reads

00:24:43.760 the playbook. It's kind of a combination

00:24:45.620 of, of news and, and gossip from

00:24:48.240 politics. So Playbook right now writes

00:24:51.220 about a polling memo circulating among

00:24:53.120 Democratic Party officials that argues

00:24:55.700 the best chance to defeat Trump is with a

00:24:57.820 new nominee independent of the

00:25:00.700 administration. In other words, not

00:25:02.120 Kamala Harris. And look, we, we get that

00:25:03.920 Kamala in an open field is not the most,

00:25:06.680 the most attractive political candidate

00:25:09.380 for the Democrats, but I think they're

00:25:10.860 locked into her unless Michelle is doing 0.71

00:25:12.660 it. But what's interesting is what this

00:25:15.420 memo argues. And it says, based on

00:25:18.740 polling of who does well against Trump,

00:25:21.220 it says the strongest candidates, so this

00:25:22.940 is polling for their presidential

00:25:24.260 nominee, but it says the strongest

00:25:26.480 potential candidates are, in alphabetical

00:25:28.600 order, Arizona Senator Mark Kelly,

00:25:31.380 Maryland Governor Wes Moore,

00:25:34.420 Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro,

00:25:36.900 and Michigan Governor Gretchen

00:25:38.820 Whitmer. That's the one that keeps coming

00:25:40.260 to my mind. A double women, woman 1.00

00:25:43.260 ticket. Look, that is certainly a

00:25:44.980 possibility, and there are different

00:25:46.460 philosophies on VPs. Sometimes a

00:25:49.680 president picks a VP that is different,

00:25:52.040 that, that is markedly different. Think

00:25:53.660 JFK picking LBJ. You pick kind of 0.65

00:25:56.220 totally different branches of the party

00:25:59.040 to unify them. Think Reagan picking

00:26:01.020 Bush. That, that, that, that is one way

00:26:03.820 to do it. Other times, a nominee

00:26:06.980 reinforces the strength of a candidate,

00:26:09.540 and think Bill Clinton picking Al Gore. We're

00:26:11.700 both young, relatively conservative

00:26:14.620 Southern Democrats kind of doubling down.

00:26:16.760 This is our message. I think there is a

00:26:19.400 chance they do that, but, but my guess is I

00:26:22.060 think the Democrats are less likely to

00:26:24.800 pick two women. I don't know this, but, but 1.00

00:26:27.500 I think as, as I look at it, I, I, I would

00:26:31.360 say. You got a bet tonight. You go with

00:26:33.400 Gavin Newsom? Or Josh Shapiro. And Josh

00:26:37.240 Shapiro is a. For people that don't know

00:26:38.920 Shapiro. Okay, Josh, Josh Shapiro. Our

00:26:40.780 audience says Ben Shapiro, not Josh Shapiro.

00:26:42.820 They will not pick Ben Shapiro. Although, boy,

00:26:45.160 that would be fun. Can you imagine

00:26:46.980 Kamala Ben Shapiro? Now that's a. That's a

00:26:49.340 unity ticket right there, right? Josh

00:26:52.300 Shapiro is the governor of Pennsylvania. He

00:26:54.000 used to be the attorney general of

00:26:55.320 Pennsylvania. He is widely perceived as a

00:26:57.920 moderate Democrat. He's not very

00:26:59.700 moderate, but he's widely perceived as

00:27:01.240 such. He's what passes for a moderate in

00:27:03.700 today's Democrat party. Now, look,

00:27:06.780 Pennsylvania is a state both sides view as

00:27:10.120 very close to must win. There are paths to

00:27:13.320 getting to 270 electoral votes without

00:27:15.400 Pennsylvania, but not many. Pennsylvania is

00:27:17.940 probably the single most contested swing

00:27:21.360 state in this election. Josh Shapiro is a

00:27:24.040 popular governor. Yep. And a popular

00:27:26.180 governor and. Governors do well in that

00:27:28.420 position. Look, it. I think Shapiro would

00:27:31.420 be dangerous. I'd be surprised if she 1.00

00:27:35.600 picked him, but I'll tell you Mark Kelly

00:27:37.440 would be a very dangerous candidate. I know

00:27:40.000 Mark well. Mark is. Look, he's a Navy

00:27:43.080 veteran. He's a former astronaut. He's a

00:27:45.620 short, muscular, bald guy. And look, it's

00:27:49.580 very hard to, to, to call Mark Kelly a 0.96

00:27:53.540 wuss. Yeah. Like, like he seems that

00:27:55.800 there's a reason that he's a, has won

00:27:58.340 decisively in Arizona. He's also an affable

00:28:01.680 guy. So he seems likable moderate. He seems

00:28:05.520 reasonable. His voting record is terrible. Yeah.

00:28:07.960 But he comes across as very, he comes across

00:28:11.280 like he could be a Republican. So I could see, I

00:28:14.420 doubt Mark Kelly would be the nominee, but I

00:28:16.920 could see him being in the mix. So I would

00:28:18.820 probably say Michelle slash Kamala. And I'd 0.63

00:28:23.120 probably give Kamala the edge right now. Yep. 1.00

00:28:26.020 Part of that may be just wishful thinking. I

00:28:28.220 want it to be Kamala and not Michelle. And in

00:28:31.420 terms of the VPs, I would say Shapiro, Newsome,

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00:30:24.000 Israel. Two final questions. A, do they delay the 0.96

00:30:28.840 convention? Number one. And two, if they delay the

00:30:33.240 convention, will he step down at the convention and

00:30:38.020 then have that be the media or does it come out before

00:30:41.820 the convention? All right. So the appellate lawyer

00:30:44.180 has to say, I love that you asked A and 2. Yeah. Like

00:30:48.560 that's just kind of a fun outline. You're welcome. Just

00:30:52.780 want to mess with you every once in a while. See if you're 0.76

00:30:55.180 selling your game, right? A and B, is that better? That is

00:30:57.920 not. I like Roman numerals and outlines. And Z. But I'm not

00:31:02.400 going to tell you I love Venn diagrams. I'm going to leave

00:31:04.560 that to Kamala to say Venn diagrams make my cold, cruel

00:31:09.560 heart go pitter-patter. Look, I don't think they delay the

00:31:17.400 convention. They might, but I doubt it. And they don't wait. I

00:31:21.220 think this happens within the next week. I think this could

00:31:24.300 easily happen this weekend. And frankly, look, the Democrats

00:31:27.580 are smart by delaying till after this convention. This

00:31:30.500 convention. Let it happen and then kill the momentum. Has

00:31:32.840 been phenomenal. And the media will treat whoever parachutes

00:31:38.540 in, the media will treat it as a brand new race. Ignore

00:31:41.460 anything that happened before. We're brand new starting

00:31:44.720 over. And so I think they want to get on with that quickly.

00:31:48.780 So my prediction, by the way, if you want to think about

00:31:52.400 momentous and historic weeks in politics, on Saturday, the

00:31:59.240 former president of the United States was shot. The first

00:32:02.680 presidential assassination attempt since 1981. Immediately

00:32:06.940 thereafter, we've had an incredibly successful convention.

00:32:11.680 Convention. We've had a vice presidential nominee named. And

00:32:15.040 it could be within a week of that, because I could easily see it

00:32:18.760 being this weekend. Joe Biden is off the ballot. And we have a new

00:32:23.840 Democrat nominee. And there's chatter. There's some of the

00:32:26.660 pundits that are saying, oh, we ought to have an open primary. We

00:32:28.940 ought to have Democrats fighting. It's not going to happen. I don't

00:32:30.800 believe that will happen. They will coronate. And I think it'll be

00:32:34.280 one of the two. Then my bonus question is either three or C,

00:32:37.540 depending on how you want to list these. How many times will Kamala

00:32:41.680 Harris or Michelle Obama debate Donald Trump once? We'll have one

00:32:45.760 debate. Just one debate. We will have one debate. And could they get away

00:32:48.560 with saying, I'm not going to debate? No, no. Even if it's Michelle? I think

00:32:53.100 they will do one debate. I think they will feel like it's not credible if you

00:32:57.160 don't do a debate, particularly because Trump... If you're Trump, do you push for

00:33:00.800 two? I would. Yeah, but... I'd say it's a reset. We're doing two of these suckers

00:33:05.600 before November. But I don't think they'll end up doing it. Look, I think Trump may

00:33:09.020 well push for two. Part of the reason, if you're a Democrat, everyone concedes

00:33:13.340 Trump mopped the floor with Biden. I think as a Democrat, you don't want that

00:33:16.820 to be the only debate. If you're putting someone new, you need something

00:33:19.900 credible. I will tell you, I just came from a meeting that J.D. Vance met with

00:33:25.160 all the senators. We're congratulating him. And he did have a very funny thing he

00:33:29.180 shared with us. He said, you know, he was talking to Trump about, well, okay, who

00:33:34.020 are we going to face? Is it going to be someone new? Is it going to be Kamala? And J.D.

00:33:38.760 said, well, look, Mr. President, I said yes, assuming I got to debate Kamala. If they

00:33:44.400 actually bring in someone that's a really good debater, I may have to rethink this.

00:33:48.120 And Trump said, no backing out. You accepted the thing. You're stuck.

00:33:51.680 You ain't going anywhere.

00:33:53.840 But look, that... I think they'll do it fast. By the way, I will point out, the night of

00:34:02.500 the debate, when you and I did a podcast immediately thereafter, we said that night, this is the most

00:34:08.000 consequential presidential debate in American history. And the reason we said that is because

00:34:13.640 we said, I believe this will change the names on the ballot in November. And that has never

00:34:19.200 happened. There's never been a debate that changed the names on the ballot. And that's

00:34:23.620 exactly what that debate did. It took a few weeks to play out. But I think it is imminent.

00:34:28.120 I think it is within days.

00:34:30.140 To everybody that's here in the hall, thank you guys for joining us.

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00:36:16.680 fair prediction, right?

00:36:17.480 I think that is a fair prediction.

00:36:18.720 That's a fair prediction. Grab it wherever you can. Donald Trump's speech tonight, any prediction

00:36:23.800 last minute? Will he needle Joe Biden?

00:36:26.680 Look, I think it is going to be substantially tamped down. I think Saturday changed the speech.

00:36:33.120 In fact, I know Saturday changed the speech. That I think prior to Saturday, the speech was

00:36:37.920 going to be quite combative. And I expect to see a lot of unity, a lot more language seeking

00:36:46.560 to bring people together. And look, we've seen this throughout the convention. We talked about,

00:36:52.600 we did a live podcast at the convention yesterday. I talked about when I visited with President Trump

00:36:57.100 yesterday. And I think Saturday really had an impact on him, had an impact. I mean, he kind of

00:37:02.420 pulled me aside and said really quietly, just said, God save me. And it was quiet and serious in a way

00:37:11.240 that I think is really consequential. And, and, and, and listen, I think it's, you can't go through

00:37:18.660 what he went through Saturday, having been shot and having been within a half inch of being killed

00:37:24.900 without really thinking about God Almighty turning his head. Because I believe that happened. I believe

00:37:31.420 it was divine providence that turned his head. And had it been slightly one way or the other,

00:37:36.480 we would be having a dramatically different conversation.

00:37:38.640 No doubt about it. Always a pleasure at the convention. Thanks to everybody that are here.

00:37:42.980 We will see you back here in a couple of days.

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - July 18, 2024

Biden about to be GONE. Who's Next？

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