Verdict with Ted Cruz - July 18, 2024


Biden about to be GONE. Who's Next？


Episode Stats

Length

37 minutes

Words per Minute

181.47453

Word Count

6,865

Sentence Count

701

Misogynist Sentences

32

Hate Speech Sentences

18


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:05.220 Welcome.
00:00:06.180 It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.
00:00:08.360 Ben Ferguson with you live from
00:00:10.060 the Republican National Convention.
00:00:13.100 And we've got
00:00:14.160 an audience out there. I love it.
00:00:16.580 Senator, this
00:00:18.000 is the first morning
00:00:19.620 I have ever woken up
00:00:21.780 truly believing that
00:00:24.080 Joe Biden is going to
00:00:25.820 drop out of
00:00:27.980 this presidential race. I've never
00:00:29.740 believed it was possible before this
00:00:31.740 morning. I want to get
00:00:33.740 your initial reaction to that. Well, listen,
00:00:35.900 if only someone could have predicted that before this
00:00:37.740 week. I know, right?
00:00:39.560 So, for regular Verdict
00:00:41.700 listeners, you will recall that this podcast
00:00:44.020 ten months ago,
00:00:46.020 ten months ago, we predicted
00:00:47.900 that Joe Biden would drop out of this race,
00:00:49.960 that the Democrats would throw him out.
00:00:51.400 Yeah. And we predicted ten
00:00:53.380 months ago that he'd be replaced by Michelle Obama.
00:00:55.600 Yes. And at the time,
00:00:57.320 the corporate media treated that prediction
00:00:59.500 is utter moon
00:01:01.180 bat. Insanity. Insanity.
00:01:03.500 Yeah. Like, completely nuts.
00:01:05.720 Do we want a prize for ten months
00:01:07.200 ago, by the way? I've got to give you the brainchild
00:01:09.080 of it. Ten months ago. I'll give you full credit.
00:01:10.940 Do we get a prize for that? I think we
00:01:12.780 certainly should get a prize, but look,
00:01:15.160 I think it's going to happen. I think it is going to happen
00:01:17.340 within the next week.
00:01:18.860 And we have seen
00:01:21.380 we've seen the momentum
00:01:24.400 building and building and building.
00:01:26.460 And look, I've got to tell you, and you and I have talked about
00:01:28.460 this, I have mixed sentiments at this
00:01:30.420 convention. On one
00:01:32.380 side, I am thrilled,
00:01:34.460 I am excited because the party is
00:01:36.380 unified. It's unified at a level
00:01:38.100 I've never seen. I've been to a lot of
00:01:40.340 conventions. You've been to a lot of conventions. What was your first one?
00:01:42.620 1992. I was at
00:01:44.140 1992. I had just
00:01:46.100 graduated from college. I was 21 years old.
00:01:48.740 1992 was in
00:01:50.100 Houston. Oh, well there you go.
00:01:52.120 And it was actually, it was the
00:01:54.020 last public speech Ronald Reagan
00:01:55.920 ever gave. And actually just after the
00:01:57.980 convention, they announced he had Alzheimer's. So it was
00:01:59.960 his last public address. Yeah.
00:02:01.840 And so for his speech, it was very cool.
00:02:03.840 Texas delegation was in front because it was in Houston.
00:02:06.780 And they decided
00:02:08.060 they wanted all the college kids down front.
00:02:10.100 They wanted to show that the Republican Party
00:02:11.860 is young and vibrant. So all the college
00:02:14.000 kids, we were put up front.
00:02:15.760 So I was in the front row for Reagan's last
00:02:17.780 public address. I'm jealous.
00:02:19.420 And here's something really cool.
00:02:21.820 At the time, Heidi was
00:02:23.700 in college. She was at Claremont McKenna. She was
00:02:25.640 the president of the college Republicans at Claremont
00:02:27.740 McKenna out in California. She was
00:02:29.740 at the convention and she was in
00:02:31.720 the front row with the Texas delegation. And we didn't
00:02:33.840 meet. I was going to say, did you meet? No. We didn't
00:02:35.740 meet until eight years later. Wow.
00:02:37.500 But every time I see photographs of that convention,
00:02:39.760 I like scan them to see if someone somehow got
00:02:41.760 a picture of Heidi and me standing near
00:02:43.820 each other because we were very close to each other. So
00:02:45.760 the point is, I've
00:02:47.820 been to a lot of these. I have never
00:02:50.040 seen unity like this
00:02:51.640 last couple of days. As you know,
00:02:53.840 I've done a ton of media interviews and you
00:02:55.720 listen to the reporters. They're losing
00:02:57.720 their minds. They're so unhappy. They're like,
00:02:59.600 you guys are so
00:03:01.240 unified. And they're furious.
00:03:03.960 They don't like it. We know how to
00:03:05.860 screw things up well in the Republican Party when it comes
00:03:07.920 to unity. This does feel very
00:03:09.800 different. Everyone is on the same
00:03:11.960 page. Everyone is united. Everyone
00:03:13.880 wants Trump to win in November. Everyone
00:03:15.680 wants to win the Senate. Everyone wants to win the
00:03:17.700 House. But you
00:03:19.840 and I have also talked about this. I'll tell you
00:03:21.680 what I'm scared about. I'm
00:03:23.820 scared about overconfidence. I couldn't
00:03:25.740 agree more. Look, there
00:03:27.720 is an aspect of this convention that
00:03:29.600 feels like a celebration. And I
00:03:31.640 get that. But my
00:03:33.760 message to everyone at this convention is
00:03:35.760 it is not time to celebrate. We'll celebrate
00:03:37.960 after Election Day.
00:03:40.020 We've got work to do. We have a job
00:03:42.100 in front of us.
00:03:44.000 And listen, I think we're going to come out of this convention.
00:03:46.220 I think we'll see a bounce in the polls.
00:03:48.480 And then I think within
00:03:49.980 days or
00:03:51.820 even hours,
00:03:53.900 the Democrats are going to announce Joe Biden
00:03:56.000 is no longer our nominee. They're going to pull him
00:03:57.940 off. And the media
00:03:59.940 is going to reset the entire
00:04:02.040 race. They're going to do everything they can
00:04:03.860 to take away the momentum from this convention.
00:04:05.800 And so nobody here should get overconfident
00:04:08.180 because this becomes
00:04:09.840 very, very dangerous.
00:04:11.580 And the media is going to do everything they can to say,
00:04:13.780 well, Joe was old, but now we're
00:04:15.840 going to replace him with someone young. Everything
00:04:17.700 solved. Move on forward.
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00:06:27.900 to write the obituary. Earlier today
00:06:29.740 MSNBC. It helps because he's been dead
00:06:31.980 for three years. Very true. They said on
00:06:35.640 I want you to listen to this clip because
00:06:37.880 it's an interesting clip. And they said
00:06:40.160 on MSNBC they're so ready to be done
00:06:41.760 with him. They said Joe Biden obviously
00:06:44.180 has COVID. And they said he is quote
00:06:47.200 self-isolating both medically and
00:06:52.180 politically. Listen. Get up to date
00:06:55.380 though with what's happening in
00:06:57.840 Milwaukee. Also what you're hearing
00:07:00.580 from the Biden campaign. Yeah we'll
00:07:03.780 start with the Biden campaign Joe and
00:07:06.220 exactly right about the sequencing. So
00:07:08.860 on your air I talked about the fact
00:07:10.920 three weeks ago that there was an
00:07:13.440 effort among top Democrats to give
00:07:16.340 President Biden the chance to walk off
00:07:18.800 the stage. They said he is proud. He's
00:07:21.540 stubborn. We love him. We appreciate
00:07:24.040 him. We want to give him the chance to
00:07:26.060 walk off the stage. President Biden in
00:07:29.360 the view of these top Democrats did not
00:07:31.320 take the hint. And the way that one top
00:07:34.980 Democrat someone very close to the West
00:07:37.420 Wing put it to me Sunday as I sat here
00:07:40.340 on the floor of this hall with my laptop
00:07:42.700 doing reporting at the Republican
00:07:44.960 convention about what was happening in
00:07:46.960 the Democratic Party. They said we don't
00:07:49.600 want to humiliate him. That was the
00:07:52.600 effort. Then we saw this sequence
00:07:55.740 yesterday and is my brilliant colleague
00:07:58.980 Zach Basu puts it at the top of Axios
00:08:01.680 this morning. President Biden is now
00:08:04.260 self-isolating both medically and
00:08:07.600 politically. I mean that's an obituary to
00:08:11.460 his entire career. And he says what we've
00:08:14.160 seen. Let's talk about what we've seen.
00:08:16.800 Every aspect of the Democratic Party has
00:08:20.300 now turned on him entirely. Turned on him
00:08:21.880 completely. You've got the Clintons. They're
00:08:24.180 saying you're done. The Obamas saying you're
00:08:26.480 done. Schumer saying you're done. Pelosi
00:08:28.880 saying you're done. Jeffrey saying you're
00:08:31.220 done. Hollywood. The media saying you're
00:08:32.880 done. The donors saying you're done. Hollywood
00:08:35.360 saying you're done. Everyone. How the hell does
00:08:37.360 this guy. He won't survive this. He doesn't.
00:08:40.480 And look you and I we predicted this 10
00:08:44.000 months ago and then the night of the
00:08:47.780 debate you and I did a podcast the night
00:08:49.880 of the debate immediately after the debate
00:08:51.760 and I said that night Biden's done. He is
00:08:54.780 no longer the nominee. He will be chased
00:08:57.220 out. It'll take a few weeks for it to
00:08:58.780 happen. But this is what's going to happen.
00:09:01.160 Why? Because the Democrats are terrified
00:09:03.320 they're going to lose. Now it's worth noting
00:09:04.840 none of them care that we have a
00:09:07.900 commander in chief right now with
00:09:09.320 dementia. Has a single Democrat said
00:09:11.260 well gosh if he's so mentally diminished
00:09:14.540 he needs to resign as president. Nobody
00:09:16.820 said that. Not a single Democrat.
00:09:19.140 Apparently they're fine with him having
00:09:20.800 his finger on the button. Now mind you
00:09:23.120 there comes a point where you take the
00:09:24.460 keys away from grandpa. Yes. But it's
00:09:27.020 even scarier if the keys are attached to
00:09:28.760 ICBMs. Yes. But the Democrats aren't
00:09:31.640 doing that. The only reason they're
00:09:33.340 bailing on Biden is because the
00:09:35.960 American people in the debate saw that
00:09:37.760 and said holy crap that man can't tie
00:09:39.400 his shoes. And we're going to lose. And
00:09:41.620 they're suddenly protecting their rear
00:09:43.320 end. Now when you and I have been
00:09:45.720 predicting it people have asked how does
00:09:47.420 this happen. And you go back go back to
00:09:49.080 Richard Nixon. Yep. When Richard Nixon
00:09:51.680 stepped down listen he didn't do so
00:09:53.600 because he just said well gosh I want to
00:09:55.220 leave. He did so because a half dozen
00:09:58.220 old bulls from the Senate old Republican
00:10:00.040 senators went to the Oval Office and
00:10:01.940 they said Mr. President you're done. And
00:10:05.240 he resisted and let's be clear they
00:10:07.040 didn't just rely on persuasion. They
00:10:10.560 said if you don't resign the House is
00:10:13.520 going to impeach you and we're going to
00:10:14.840 convict you. So you will be removed and
00:10:16.860 your only choice is do you want to do it
00:10:19.400 voluntarily or do you want us to throw
00:10:21.120 you out of office. And that ultimately
00:10:22.560 led to the presidential resignation. The press
00:10:25.000 conference where he said I'm resigning. Right.
00:10:26.720 Now this in this situation we've seen the
00:10:30.840 equivalent of the old bulls the gray
00:10:32.520 beards of the Democrat Party all of the
00:10:34.620 constituent groups one after the other
00:10:36.180 after the other go to Biden and say get
00:10:37.660 out and get out get out. They initially
00:10:39.300 did so quietly. Quietly didn't work. They
00:10:42.360 then have done so more and more publicly
00:10:44.220 and by the way if Biden were to dig in if
00:10:47.400 he were to say I don't care I'm not
00:10:49.080 going. They have a hammer. 25th. The 25th
00:10:53.720 Amendment. Understand how the 25th
00:10:55.240 Amendment works. All it takes is the
00:10:57.500 vice president and a majority of the
00:10:59.500 cabinet and the vice president the
00:11:01.640 majority of the cabinet if they sign a
00:11:04.120 letter declaring that the president is
00:11:05.580 unfit for office he is removed from
00:11:07.380 office. Instantly. Instantly. Now he can
00:11:10.640 file a letter saying no I am fit for
00:11:12.700 office and then it goes to Congress and
00:11:14.180 it takes two-thirds of both houses but
00:11:15.780 you know what Pelosi's turned on him
00:11:17.180 Schumer's turned on him the Democrats are
00:11:19.060 terrified. So they would accept it is
00:11:21.300 what you're saying. Yes. So let me
00:11:23.620 ask you this. If he doesn't drop out. It's
00:11:26.380 not going to come to that. He's going to
00:11:27.660 drop out. So you think he will. Yeah. I don't
00:11:29.380 think it's going to come to that but
00:11:30.560 that's the hammer. They don't want to
00:11:33.320 threaten that and look the whole line
00:11:35.380 about dignity. Yeah. They don't want to
00:11:38.120 have to threaten that but he is gone and
00:11:41.480 so and in my view there's lots of
00:11:43.640 speculation about who the replacement
00:11:45.540 will be. I believe the replacement will
00:11:47.280 be one of two human beings. It will
00:11:50.600 either be Kamala Harris or it will be
00:11:53.360 Michelle Obama. Those are the only two
00:11:56.360 human beings I believe that will be at
00:11:57.940 the top of the ticket. And if Kamala gets
00:11:59.460 it it's only because of logistics? So
00:12:02.220 actually I think the logistics argument
00:12:04.160 is completely overstated. So explain that
00:12:06.760 let's let's explain the people logistics
00:12:08.100 argument. The argument is. Well hold on
00:12:10.100 before we do that let me explain why it's
00:12:12.080 Kamala or Michelle. Kamala is next in line.
00:12:16.040 Now a lot of Democrats recognize that
00:12:19.140 Kamala has limitations as a candidate. And
00:12:21.700 so there's some Democrats that are like
00:12:23.180 uh-oh what are we doing? So you people
00:12:24.520 hear people talking about Gavin Newsom. I
00:12:27.060 think the chances that Gavin Newsom is at
00:12:28.880 the top of the ticket are 0.00 percent. And
00:12:32.460 the reason why it's not complicated. The
00:12:35.020 Democrat Party is structurally unable to
00:12:39.460 push aside an African-American woman and
00:12:41.560 replace her with a white guy. Like their
00:12:44.020 party would implode. They would. I mean you
00:12:46.640 talk about civil wars. They would have a
00:12:48.200 civil war with muskets. Like a literal
00:12:49.960 civil war. They can't do that. Which means
00:12:53.360 all of the names bandied about. None of
00:12:55.660 them. You could have a primary and someone
00:12:57.640 defeats her. But if it's anointing and a
00:13:00.140 successor I don't believe their party can
00:13:01.920 do that. Which means the only human being
00:13:04.540 on planet earth who could push Kamala
00:13:06.140 aside is Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama is
00:13:08.800 obviously also an African-American woman. But
00:13:11.220 an African-American woman with much higher
00:13:12.860 approval ratings and I think a much more
00:13:15.480 dangerous candidate. Ten months ago I said
00:13:18.000 and I still say it today. If I were a
00:13:19.680 Democrat I would be all in. I would be
00:13:23.060 begging Michelle because I got to tell you
00:13:25.400 look sitting here as a Republican who
00:13:27.560 desperately wants us to win in November
00:13:29.420 that scares the living daylights out of me.
00:13:31.500 If Michelle is the nominee it is dangerous
00:13:34.200 and everyone here better understand we're in
00:13:36.580 for the fight of our life if it's her. Now
00:13:38.460 what is interesting is how much the
00:13:41.040 Democrat Party is circling the wagons
00:13:42.860 behind Kamala. And I think Kamala has
00:13:45.220 risen. Is that because it's easier
00:13:47.840 logistically? That's where I ask that
00:13:49.260 question because the money's there. The
00:13:51.240 campaign's there. It's seamless. It's just
00:13:54.100 seamless. Balderdash. Balderdash. Tell me why.
00:13:55.800 Complete nonsense. So people are saying oh
00:13:57.360 well Kamala is the only one who can access
00:14:00.220 the money Biden-Harris has raised and so
00:14:02.200 that's why they'll do it. What utter
00:14:05.120 look imagine. Because that's what everybody's
00:14:08.000 saying. So tell me. But everyone's saying it
00:14:10.000 doesn't mean it's true. It doesn't actually
00:14:12.360 hasn't run a presidential campaign. It
00:14:14.200 doesn't know how things operate. It's
00:14:17.000 true. Michelle Obama can't access the money
00:14:19.140 in the Biden coffers. What happens the day
00:14:22.000 Michelle Obama's announces the nominee? I'm
00:14:24.980 assuming they would start the campaign
00:14:26.620 start raising money. And every Democrat
00:14:28.900 every grassroots Democrat every activist
00:14:31.020 every donor is suddenly goes from despondency
00:14:35.500 depression despair. They're resigned. Crap
00:14:38.360 we're gonna lose. Trump's gonna be president. We're
00:14:41.160 gonna lose the Senate. We're gonna lose the
00:14:42.300 House. They're in misery. And they wake up
00:14:44.840 and hallelujah hallelujah Michelle Obama is
00:14:47.080 riding in to save the day. And a billion
00:14:49.080 dollars of free press. And they would raise
00:14:52.040 a billion dollars within three weeks. Every
00:14:55.600 Democrat billionaire goes holy crap we've
00:14:58.600 saved the world. Get me my checkbook. And
00:15:00.720 we're talking Michelle would raise it in
00:15:03.000 hundred million dollar chunks. There is no
00:15:05.760 money problem. Plus all the free media. And
00:15:08.760 the free media. So it is massive. The only
00:15:11.560 thing that can save us from that is if
00:15:13.140 Michelle says no. And I am praying. Look
00:15:15.500 Michelle. You and I are not close to put
00:15:18.580 it mildly. But I just want to say man you
00:15:22.240 got a good life. Yeah. You're kicking back.
00:15:25.100 Martha's Vineyard is really nice in the
00:15:26.940 summertime. I've told I don't I've never
00:15:28.620 been there but I'm told it's nice. But like
00:15:31.380 you're kicking back. You're sipping
00:15:33.460 Chardonnay. You're on a yacht. You're on a
00:15:35.960 private jet. You're palling around with
00:15:37.720 movie stars. People like you. Everybody loves
00:15:40.540 you. You don't want to deal with the pesky. You
00:15:43.920 don't want to deal with us. You don't want to
00:15:45.480 deal with politicians. You can't stand us. So
00:15:48.300 just live your life as a movie star and a
00:15:52.380 celebrity and don't bother with the gritty
00:15:54.840 mess. Now I don't know if that's persuasive
00:15:57.040 to her or not. Yeah. I will tell you I've
00:15:59.540 heard people say confidently Michelle
00:16:02.680 doesn't want it. Maybe. And here's why I say
00:16:07.440 maybe. When they say Michelle doesn't want
00:16:09.900 it they say well she said she didn't want
00:16:11.280 it. Okay well you know politicians you
00:16:12.680 could always believe what they say. Like
00:16:14.780 when they say they don't want something
00:16:15.940 it's always telling the truth. But I don't
00:16:18.160 want it. I don't want it. But I do get to be on
00:16:20.040 Air Force One when I want it. So they base it on
00:16:22.880 the fact that Michelle did not run in
00:16:24.920 2020. Well that's true. But it is a very
00:16:28.700 different decision to say do I want to run
00:16:30.760 for president? Do I want to spend two years
00:16:33.000 going through the muck? Do I want to go
00:16:35.540 primary? Do I want to go through every
00:16:37.180 county in Iowa? Do I want to go all over
00:16:38.720 New Hampshire? Do I want to go all over
00:16:39.880 South Carolina? Do I want to raise money
00:16:41.420 non-stop? Do I want to spend two years of
00:16:43.920 my life? It is all consuming. By the way
00:16:46.700 Michelle knows it. Yeah. She's witnessed it
00:16:48.620 twice. She went side by side with Barack so
00:16:51.200 she knows exactly what's entitled, entailed
00:16:53.660 in that. That is a very different decision
00:16:56.860 than a three month, two and a half month
00:16:59.120 campaign. From being told, Michelle we will
00:17:01.500 have a coronation. Everyone will sing your
00:17:03.920 hosannas. We will hand you the nomination.
00:17:06.940 You'd give one speech. You'd do a debate.
00:17:09.300 You'd do a couple of rallies. And suddenly
00:17:11.100 you're president of the United States. Yeah.
00:17:13.220 There are very few people on planet Earth
00:17:15.400 that if you walked up and said okay
00:17:16.860 we'll make you president right now. All
00:17:20.080 right. We got a studio audience here. How
00:17:22.440 many of you would say yes if we offered
00:17:24.860 you? Would you like to be president? Would
00:17:26.160 you say yes if they were? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
00:17:27.960 Right now we're getting nods. There's like
00:17:29.980 yeah. Yeah. Okay. One guy said no. One guy
00:17:33.520 said no. One guy said no on everyone here. He
00:17:36.520 lives at Martha's Vineyard by the way. I guarantee
00:17:38.240 it. All right. All right. It's an unusual cat
00:17:40.940 that would say no to being offered the
00:17:44.220 coronation. So Michelle scares me. But I
00:17:46.820 want to say something else to Republicans
00:17:48.600 at this convention and across the
00:17:49.960 country. Don't get overconfident with
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00:19:44.100 Everything that you just went through, the
00:19:46.780 Democratic Party is in disarray. They're
00:19:49.140 depressed. The donors are depressed. They
00:19:51.760 feel like they're about to lose. I think
00:19:53.960 anybody that gets this opportunity, that
00:19:56.780 could be Kamala Harris, will reinvigorate the
00:20:00.680 checkbooks, will reinvigorate the party,
00:20:03.260 will reinvigorate every candidate that's
00:20:05.340 down ballot because it's a reset button. I
00:20:08.500 think the bump that we get out of this
00:20:09.840 convention could instantly disappear with
00:20:11.960 Kamala Harris because of all of the news
00:20:14.400 you're talking about. And I think the amount
00:20:15.840 of money she'll raise, but I also think the
00:20:17.840 thing is with Kamala is she will also get a
00:20:20.360 billion dollars of free media. The media will
00:20:22.920 obsess over her. It changes the race
00:20:25.720 completely. Do you agree? I absolutely do.
00:20:28.900 And I will say, look, Republicans, people at
00:20:30.800 this convention think rightly that Kamala is
00:20:34.940 a train wreck, that she's been an absolute
00:20:36.760 disaster. She's the border czar, except she
00:20:39.040 only went to the border once as vice
00:20:40.420 president. She didn't actually even go to
00:20:41.640 the Rio Grande Valley. Everything she's
00:20:43.600 touched has been a disaster. She got
00:20:45.120 clobbered in the Democratic primary. There
00:20:47.000 are lots of reasons to say Kamala is not
00:20:49.060 very good at this, but you made the exact
00:20:52.380 right point. Imagine it with a billion
00:20:55.720 dollars of free media with every media
00:20:58.560 outlet hyperventilating saying, oh, she's a
00:21:02.280 combination of Mother Teresa, Oprah and
00:21:05.520 Gandhi all combined. Like you will see
00:21:08.560 reporters running after her, throwing their
00:21:11.680 panties at her. And by the way, that's just
00:21:13.580 the men. Those identify as men. Let's be
00:21:18.580 clear about that. Those that identify as
00:21:21.020 men, right? You never know nowadays. And it
00:21:25.700 is a dangerous thing. So listen, I think we
00:21:28.140 beat Kamala, but everyone here needs to be
00:21:31.380 aware we're not just going against Kamala. We're
00:21:33.500 going against every corporate media outlet.
00:21:35.940 We're going against all of Hollywood. We're
00:21:37.820 going against big tech, which will elevate
00:21:40.240 everything. They will do everything they
00:21:42.180 can. And their narrative will be, you know
00:21:44.560 what? They'll say Biden was a great
00:21:47.860 historic president, but he got too old. We
00:21:49.880 all get too old. And we fix that problem
00:21:52.300 now. Now Kamala is young and vigorous. She
00:21:55.740 smiles a lot. She laughs and it drives us
00:21:57.860 crazy. Yes. Get ready to hear that laugh so
00:22:00.700 often. You're going you're going to wake up
00:22:03.740 at night screaming and hearing the cackle.
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00:22:35.600 They also believe that she's going to
00:22:39.420 bring women together for two reasons. One,
00:22:42.400 they're going to make Roe v. Wade an issue
00:22:43.740 again and try to really bring feminists and
00:22:46.540 women out on that. That'll be a core point
00:22:48.920 of her campaign. But two, just the overall
00:22:51.720 history of women and breaking the glass
00:22:55.340 ceiling. She also is a minority. Yeah. So
00:22:58.380 you would have a minority female who would
00:23:01.280 make history while in reengaging women
00:23:05.480 voters in the Democratic Party and women
00:23:08.420 that maybe are swing voters. I think that's
00:23:10.540 actually very, very dangerous. It is
00:23:13.260 exceptionally dangerous. And let's
00:23:14.780 complicate it a little more. If it is
00:23:17.020 Michelle, if it is Kamala, who's the VP?
00:23:20.600 I, it's a great question. I honestly have
00:23:23.220 not thought about it much. I say that
00:23:25.780 here's why I'm like, do you pick a man? Do
00:23:27.900 you pick another woman? Do you pick
00:23:30.380 someone that's young? Do you pick someone
00:23:32.580 that's older? That's not a threat to you if
00:23:34.240 you don't do well in four years? I mean,
00:23:36.080 I've been so focused on Joe Biden and I'm
00:23:39.040 going, who's on the short list? I don't
00:23:40.760 know if they would even know who their
00:23:42.060 short list is yet. Who do you have? Yeah. So
00:23:43.840 I have a couple of thoughts. One possibility
00:23:46.300 that is a real possibility is Gavin
00:23:48.560 Newsom. I don't believe Gavin Newsom
00:23:50.640 could be at the top of the ticket, but I
00:23:52.240 believe he would be a very credible
00:23:53.940 fundraiser VP choice for either, either
00:23:57.800 Michelle or Kamala. That, that, that is a
00:23:59.760 VP choice. And mostly Newsom comes with,
00:24:03.280 with, with just a crap ton of California
00:24:04.920 money. And he's a good looking guy. He's
00:24:07.240 smooth. He's slick. Gavin Newsom reminds
00:24:10.120 me of the comment about Bill Clinton. He's
00:24:12.760 an unusually good liar. And, and in, in
00:24:15.560 Democrat politics, that is a really good
00:24:17.740 attribute. He is a, a gifted and talented
00:24:20.840 liar. Now I've also pointed out, I
00:24:22.860 consider Gavin, Gavin Newsom. I, I want
00:24:25.020 to actually name him Texas Realtor of
00:24:28.040 the Year because nobody has sold more
00:24:31.020 homes in the state of Texas than Gavin
00:24:33.180 Newsom. I mean, he could sell homes
00:24:34.700 everywhere in Texas, but I'll also point
00:24:38.000 out, all right, so Politico Playbook,
00:24:40.020 which is every political junkie reads
00:24:43.760 the playbook. It's kind of a combination
00:24:45.620 of, of news and, and gossip from
00:24:48.240 politics. So Playbook right now writes
00:24:51.220 about a polling memo circulating among
00:24:53.120 Democratic Party officials that argues
00:24:55.700 the best chance to defeat Trump is with a
00:24:57.820 new nominee independent of the
00:25:00.700 administration. In other words, not
00:25:02.120 Kamala Harris. And look, we, we get that
00:25:03.920 Kamala in an open field is not the most,
00:25:06.680 the most attractive political candidate
00:25:09.380 for the Democrats, but I think they're
00:25:10.860 locked into her unless Michelle is doing
00:25:12.660 it. But what's interesting is what this
00:25:15.420 memo argues. And it says, based on
00:25:18.740 polling of who does well against Trump,
00:25:21.220 it says the strongest candidates, so this
00:25:22.940 is polling for their presidential
00:25:24.260 nominee, but it says the strongest
00:25:26.480 potential candidates are, in alphabetical
00:25:28.600 order, Arizona Senator Mark Kelly,
00:25:31.380 Maryland Governor Wes Moore,
00:25:34.420 Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro,
00:25:36.900 and Michigan Governor Gretchen
00:25:38.820 Whitmer. That's the one that keeps coming
00:25:40.260 to my mind. A double women, woman
00:25:43.260 ticket. Look, that is certainly a
00:25:44.980 possibility, and there are different
00:25:46.460 philosophies on VPs. Sometimes a
00:25:49.680 president picks a VP that is different,
00:25:52.040 that, that is markedly different. Think
00:25:53.660 JFK picking LBJ. You pick kind of
00:25:56.220 totally different branches of the party
00:25:59.040 to unify them. Think Reagan picking
00:26:01.020 Bush. That, that, that, that is one way
00:26:03.820 to do it. Other times, a nominee
00:26:06.980 reinforces the strength of a candidate,
00:26:09.540 and think Bill Clinton picking Al Gore. We're
00:26:11.700 both young, relatively conservative
00:26:14.620 Southern Democrats kind of doubling down.
00:26:16.760 This is our message. I think there is a
00:26:19.400 chance they do that, but, but my guess is I
00:26:22.060 think the Democrats are less likely to
00:26:24.800 pick two women. I don't know this, but, but
00:26:27.500 I think as, as I look at it, I, I, I would
00:26:31.360 say. You got a bet tonight. You go with
00:26:33.400 Gavin Newsom? Or Josh Shapiro. And Josh
00:26:37.240 Shapiro is a. For people that don't know
00:26:38.920 Shapiro. Okay, Josh, Josh Shapiro. Our
00:26:40.780 audience says Ben Shapiro, not Josh Shapiro.
00:26:42.820 They will not pick Ben Shapiro. Although, boy,
00:26:45.160 that would be fun. Can you imagine
00:26:46.980 Kamala Ben Shapiro? Now that's a. That's a
00:26:49.340 unity ticket right there, right? Josh
00:26:52.300 Shapiro is the governor of Pennsylvania. He
00:26:54.000 used to be the attorney general of
00:26:55.320 Pennsylvania. He is widely perceived as a
00:26:57.920 moderate Democrat. He's not very
00:26:59.700 moderate, but he's widely perceived as
00:27:01.240 such. He's what passes for a moderate in
00:27:03.700 today's Democrat party. Now, look,
00:27:06.780 Pennsylvania is a state both sides view as
00:27:10.120 very close to must win. There are paths to
00:27:13.320 getting to 270 electoral votes without
00:27:15.400 Pennsylvania, but not many. Pennsylvania is
00:27:17.940 probably the single most contested swing
00:27:21.360 state in this election. Josh Shapiro is a
00:27:24.040 popular governor. Yep. And a popular
00:27:26.180 governor and. Governors do well in that
00:27:28.420 position. Look, it. I think Shapiro would
00:27:31.420 be dangerous. I'd be surprised if she
00:27:35.600 picked him, but I'll tell you Mark Kelly
00:27:37.440 would be a very dangerous candidate. I know
00:27:40.000 Mark well. Mark is. Look, he's a Navy
00:27:43.080 veteran. He's a former astronaut. He's a
00:27:45.620 short, muscular, bald guy. And look, it's
00:27:49.580 very hard to, to, to call Mark Kelly a
00:27:53.540 wuss. Yeah. Like, like he seems that
00:27:55.800 there's a reason that he's a, has won
00:27:58.340 decisively in Arizona. He's also an affable
00:28:01.680 guy. So he seems likable moderate. He seems
00:28:05.520 reasonable. His voting record is terrible. Yeah.
00:28:07.960 But he comes across as very, he comes across
00:28:11.280 like he could be a Republican. So I could see, I
00:28:14.420 doubt Mark Kelly would be the nominee, but I
00:28:16.920 could see him being in the mix. So I would
00:28:18.820 probably say Michelle slash Kamala. And I'd
00:28:23.120 probably give Kamala the edge right now. Yep.
00:28:26.020 Part of that may be just wishful thinking. I
00:28:28.220 want it to be Kamala and not Michelle. And in
00:28:31.420 terms of the VPs, I would say Shapiro, Newsome,
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00:30:24.000 Israel. Two final questions. A, do they delay the
00:30:28.840 convention? Number one. And two, if they delay the
00:30:33.240 convention, will he step down at the convention and
00:30:38.020 then have that be the media or does it come out before
00:30:41.820 the convention? All right. So the appellate lawyer
00:30:44.180 has to say, I love that you asked A and 2. Yeah. Like
00:30:48.560 that's just kind of a fun outline. You're welcome. Just
00:30:52.780 want to mess with you every once in a while. See if you're
00:30:55.180 selling your game, right? A and B, is that better? That is
00:30:57.920 not. I like Roman numerals and outlines. And Z. But I'm not
00:31:02.400 going to tell you I love Venn diagrams. I'm going to leave
00:31:04.560 that to Kamala to say Venn diagrams make my cold, cruel
00:31:09.560 heart go pitter-patter. Look, I don't think they delay the
00:31:17.400 convention. They might, but I doubt it. And they don't wait. I
00:31:21.220 think this happens within the next week. I think this could
00:31:24.300 easily happen this weekend. And frankly, look, the Democrats
00:31:27.580 are smart by delaying till after this convention. This
00:31:30.500 convention. Let it happen and then kill the momentum. Has
00:31:32.840 been phenomenal. And the media will treat whoever parachutes
00:31:38.540 in, the media will treat it as a brand new race. Ignore
00:31:41.460 anything that happened before. We're brand new starting
00:31:44.720 over. And so I think they want to get on with that quickly.
00:31:48.780 So my prediction, by the way, if you want to think about
00:31:52.400 momentous and historic weeks in politics, on Saturday, the
00:31:59.240 former president of the United States was shot. The first
00:32:02.680 presidential assassination attempt since 1981. Immediately
00:32:06.940 thereafter, we've had an incredibly successful convention.
00:32:11.680 Convention. We've had a vice presidential nominee named. And
00:32:15.040 it could be within a week of that, because I could easily see it
00:32:18.760 being this weekend. Joe Biden is off the ballot. And we have a new
00:32:23.840 Democrat nominee. And there's chatter. There's some of the
00:32:26.660 pundits that are saying, oh, we ought to have an open primary. We
00:32:28.940 ought to have Democrats fighting. It's not going to happen. I don't
00:32:30.800 believe that will happen. They will coronate. And I think it'll be
00:32:34.280 one of the two. Then my bonus question is either three or C,
00:32:37.540 depending on how you want to list these. How many times will Kamala
00:32:41.680 Harris or Michelle Obama debate Donald Trump once? We'll have one
00:32:45.760 debate. Just one debate. We will have one debate. And could they get away
00:32:48.560 with saying, I'm not going to debate? No, no. Even if it's Michelle? I think
00:32:53.100 they will do one debate. I think they will feel like it's not credible if you
00:32:57.160 don't do a debate, particularly because Trump... If you're Trump, do you push for
00:33:00.800 two? I would. Yeah, but... I'd say it's a reset. We're doing two of these suckers
00:33:05.600 before November. But I don't think they'll end up doing it. Look, I think Trump may
00:33:09.020 well push for two. Part of the reason, if you're a Democrat, everyone concedes
00:33:13.340 Trump mopped the floor with Biden. I think as a Democrat, you don't want that
00:33:16.820 to be the only debate. If you're putting someone new, you need something
00:33:19.900 credible. I will tell you, I just came from a meeting that J.D. Vance met with
00:33:25.160 all the senators. We're congratulating him. And he did have a very funny thing he
00:33:29.180 shared with us. He said, you know, he was talking to Trump about, well, okay, who
00:33:34.020 are we going to face? Is it going to be someone new? Is it going to be Kamala? And J.D.
00:33:38.760 said, well, look, Mr. President, I said yes, assuming I got to debate Kamala. If they
00:33:44.400 actually bring in someone that's a really good debater, I may have to rethink this.
00:33:48.120 And Trump said, no backing out. You accepted the thing. You're stuck.
00:33:51.680 You ain't going anywhere.
00:33:53.840 But look, that... I think they'll do it fast. By the way, I will point out, the night of
00:34:02.500 the debate, when you and I did a podcast immediately thereafter, we said that night, this is the most
00:34:08.000 consequential presidential debate in American history. And the reason we said that is because
00:34:13.640 we said, I believe this will change the names on the ballot in November. And that has never
00:34:19.200 happened. There's never been a debate that changed the names on the ballot. And that's
00:34:23.620 exactly what that debate did. It took a few weeks to play out. But I think it is imminent.
00:34:28.120 I think it is within days.
00:34:30.140 To everybody that's here in the hall, thank you guys for joining us.
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00:36:16.680 fair prediction, right?
00:36:17.480 I think that is a fair prediction.
00:36:18.720 That's a fair prediction. Grab it wherever you can. Donald Trump's speech tonight, any prediction
00:36:23.800 last minute? Will he needle Joe Biden?
00:36:26.680 Look, I think it is going to be substantially tamped down. I think Saturday changed the speech.
00:36:33.120 In fact, I know Saturday changed the speech. That I think prior to Saturday, the speech was
00:36:37.920 going to be quite combative. And I expect to see a lot of unity, a lot more language seeking
00:36:46.560 to bring people together. And look, we've seen this throughout the convention. We talked about,
00:36:52.600 we did a live podcast at the convention yesterday. I talked about when I visited with President Trump
00:36:57.100 yesterday. And I think Saturday really had an impact on him, had an impact. I mean, he kind of
00:37:02.420 pulled me aside and said really quietly, just said, God save me. And it was quiet and serious in a way
00:37:11.240 that I think is really consequential. And, and, and, and listen, I think it's, you can't go through
00:37:18.660 what he went through Saturday, having been shot and having been within a half inch of being killed
00:37:24.900 without really thinking about God Almighty turning his head. Because I believe that happened. I believe
00:37:31.420 it was divine providence that turned his head. And had it been slightly one way or the other,
00:37:36.480 we would be having a dramatically different conversation.
00:37:38.640 No doubt about it. Always a pleasure at the convention. Thanks to everybody that are here.
00:37:42.980 We will see you back here in a couple of days.
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