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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- October 24, 2022
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This is an iHeart Podcast.
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Welcome to Verdict with Ted Cruz.
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I'm Ben Ferguson.
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Nice to have all of you with us.
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And Senator, we have got a lot to discuss today,
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including this new news that Steve Bannon
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is going to spend, in theory, four months in jail.
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We also need to talk about some news,
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and that is the media is starting to actually tell the truth
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about the damage done to kids with school closures.
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We're going to have that, plus gun control in Canada,
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and a very important Senate race in Utah.
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Now, before we get to those other stories, Senator,
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I want to get to this shocking headline,
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and that is that Steve Bannon is supposed to spend
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four months in jail, in prison,
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for defying an outwardly partisan kangaroo court,
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is how one tweet put it earlier today.
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There's a lot of people asking questions,
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how did he get four months when guys like Eric Holder
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didn't get any time in jail?
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Klein Smith, for example,
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the former FBI assistant general counsel
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involved in Crossfire Hurricane,
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didn't get any time in jail as well.
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Look, I think the news of Bannon's being sentenced
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to four months is absolutely outrageous,
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and I am furious about it.
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I'm furious because Merrick Garland
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has presided over a Department of Justice
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that it now consists of simply being a partisan weapon
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to attack the political opponents of Joe Biden
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and the Democrats,
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and Merrick Garland should be ashamed,
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he should resign in disgrace,
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and if he doesn't,
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he should be impeached and removed from office.
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What happened here?
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The January 6th committee
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subpoenaed Steve Bannon.
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Now, the January 6th committee
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is not a real congressional committee.
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A real congressional committee
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has members from both parties,
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and the Democrats
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select the Democratic members of the party,
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the Republicans select
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the Republican members of the party.
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Nancy Pelosi wanted,
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didn't want to have a real committee,
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she wanted to have a kangaroo court.
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So she selected the Democrat members
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of the committee,
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and the House Republican majority leader,
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Kevin McCarthy,
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selected the Republicans.
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And she promptly said,
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no, I don't like those Republicans.
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She didn't like Jim Jordan.
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She didn't want Republicans
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who actually would oppose
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the Democrat partisan agenda.
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So she vetoed the Republicans.
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The Speaker doesn't get to do that.
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That is unprecedented.
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It's an abuse of power.
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She literally tried to stack the deck.
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And so this committee consists of
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100% Democrats,
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plus two now fake Republicans,
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Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger,
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both of whom will be gone in January,
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neither of whom are coming back as Republicans.
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And there are two Republicans
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who Donald Trump shattered
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into tiny little pieces of impotent rage.
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And they've conducted a year-long
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TV commercial for the Democrats.
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These hearings,
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I literally have not watched
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one second of these hearings,
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for the same reason that I don't watch
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the Democratic National Convention
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every four years.
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It is a paid infomercial
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for the Democrat Party.
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So is this.
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Well, this kangaroo court
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subpoenaed Steve Bannon.
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He declined to testify.
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And the Department of Justice
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stepped forward
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and prosecuted him.
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He was voted in contempt of Congress.
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And the Department of Justice
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stepped forward and prosecuted him.
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And what just happened
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is the district court
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sentenced him to four months.
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The reason I'm furious, Ben,
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is the wildly double standard.
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You mentioned Eric Holder.
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Eric Holder was attorney general
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under Barack Obama.
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Eric Holder defied Congress.
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He refused to give them documents
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on Fast and Furious,
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the incredibly scandalous situation
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where the Department of Justice
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ran guns to Mexico,
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guns and turns that were used
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to murder U.S. agents.
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And to cover up the scandal,
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Eric Holder refused
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to turn over documents,
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refused to testify,
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just stiff-armed Congress.
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Congress voted him in contempt.
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But here's the piece
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that was missing.
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Because it was
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the Obama Justice Department,
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the Obama Justice Department
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never prosecuted him.
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So Congress voted him in contempt.
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But look, under our Constitution,
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Congress, as the legislative branch
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defined by Article I
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of the Constitution,
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doesn't have the power
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to prosecute anyone.
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Only Article II,
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the executive branch,
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can prosecute.
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So when Eric Holder
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was held in contempt,
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he wasn't prosecuted.
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The difference is now,
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when it's Democrats
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controlling Congress
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and Democrats controlling
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the White House,
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now they go after Steve Bannon
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and they want jail time.
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And, you know,
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you mentioned also
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Kevin Kline-Smith.
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I want to focus on him
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a little bit.
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And remind people
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of Kevin Kline-Smith
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because, you know,
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they hear,
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and look,
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we saw this this weekend,
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the headlines that came out,
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Senator,
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where it says,
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well, Steve Bannon
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just got what he always wanted,
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right?
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He wanted to be a martyr,
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is how CNN put it
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on their website.
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There was others that say
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Steve Bannon deserved
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what he got
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because he refused
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to testify.
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It's not abnormal
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for people to say
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they don't want to testify.
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Can we be clear about that?
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And that doesn't mean
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that you deserve
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to go to jail.
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Well, I'll give you
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someone else
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who refused to testify,
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who pleaded the fifth,
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who was held in contempt,
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Lois Lerner.
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Lois Lerner directed
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the section of the IRS
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under Barack Obama
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that targeted conservatives
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for their political beliefs.
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When it came out
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that Lois Lerner
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had targeted conservatives
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for their political beliefs,
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Barack Obama
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held a press conference.
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He said,
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I am angry
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and the American people
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have a right to be angry.
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Now,
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what Barack Obama
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was doing there,
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there's a technical word for it,
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that's called lying.
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How do we know it's lying?
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Because,
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number one,
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Lois Lerner was never prosecuted.
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Number two,
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the Department of Justice
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appointed a special prosecutor
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in charge of the case
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who was a major Democratic donor
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to give in about $6,000
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to Barack Obama
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and the Democrats.
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So she had a clear
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partisan bias.
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Number three,
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Lois Lerner retired
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with full pension.
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But number four,
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when she defied Congress
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and was held in contempt,
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once again,
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the Department of Justice
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refused to prosecute her
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because the Obama
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Department of Justice
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was thoroughly corrupted.
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As you know,
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next week,
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my book comes out
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on this topic,
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Justice Corrupted,
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How the Left
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Weaponized the Legal System.
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I walked through
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Lois Lerner.
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I walked through
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Eric Holder.
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I walked through
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Kevin Kline Smith.
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Let's do Kevin Kline Smith
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because it gives
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another example.
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So Obama
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weaponizes DOJ,
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weaponizes the FBI,
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weaponizes the IRS,
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refuses to prosecute
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anyone for contempt
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of Congress
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even though
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they're voted
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in contempt
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of Congress.
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Fast forward to Trump.
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When Donald Trump
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becomes president
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under Obama,
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these hard partisans
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had burrowed in
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to senior positions
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at the Department
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of Justice,
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the FBI,
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the IRS,
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and all different
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agencies of the
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federal government.
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In the FBI,
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they launched,
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along with DOJ,
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what was called
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Operation Crossfire Hurricane.
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There's an entire
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chapter in my book
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explaining Crossfire Hurricane.
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Crossfire Hurricane
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was the hard partisans
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at DOJ,
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at the FBI,
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trying to target
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Donald Trump,
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trying to go after
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the newly elected
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president because they
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didn't want the
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American people
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to be able to
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elect Donald Trump.
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Now, what did they do?
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Well, the Department
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of Justice
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Inspector General
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issued a report
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on all of the
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mistakes,
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all of the abuses
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of power
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of the FBI
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and the DOJ
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in Crossfire Hurricane.
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It outlines
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17 different
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major mistakes,
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the biggest one
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of which was
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committed
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by Kevin
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Kline-Smith.
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Kevin Kline-Smith
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was an assistant
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general counsel
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at the FBI.
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The FBI
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was seeking
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a wiretap
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on a guy
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named Carter Page.
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Carter Page
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was a professor.
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He was
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a peripheral
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foreign policy
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advisor
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to the Trump
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campaign.
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And the FBI
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wanted to get
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a wiretap
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on Carter Page
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and the basis
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of their wiretap
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is they said,
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well, he's talking
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to some really
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shady Russians
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and so he may be
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doing something bad
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because the Russians
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he's having conversations
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with are questionable.
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Well, the FBI
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sent an email
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to the CIA
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and they asked
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the CIA,
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hey, this Carter Page
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guy, is he a source
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for the CIA?
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In other words,
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when he's talking
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to the shady Russians,
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is he doing it
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on behalf
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of the United States
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of America?
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Is he helping
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the CIA out?
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Now, if the answer
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is yes,
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then it's not
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suspicious that he's
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talking to shady Russians
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because we expect
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He's doing it on purpose
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on behalf
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of the United States
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government,
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which is asking him
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to do it on their behalf
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in essence, right?
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Exactly right.
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And to ask that question,
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I want to know
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because there's so many
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people that are listening,
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Senator,
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they may say,
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well, that's a weird
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question to ask, right?
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For the FBI
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to talk to the CIA.
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There was obviously
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something that popped
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in Carter Page's file,
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right, that made them say,
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oh, he's an asset
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of the United States
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government to even think
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to go ask that question.
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Yeah, that is
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a reasonable inference.
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We don't know
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what it was
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that prompted
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that question.
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Although,
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if you are,
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we don't know
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what it was
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that prompted it.
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We know they asked it.
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And the CIA
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responded in writing,
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yes, he is a source.
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Thank you for asking.
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He's very helpful to us.
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Yes, he is a source.
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Here's what Kevin
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Kline Smith did.
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He took that email
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and he fraudulently
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altered it.
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And he changed
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the CIA's email.
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So where they say,
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yes, he is a source,
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he changed that to read,
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no, he is not a source.
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He then took
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that counterfeit
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fraudulent document
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and he submitted it
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to a federal court
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and used it
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as the basis
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to get the wiretap
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on Carter Page
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to go after Donald Trump.
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Now, that is a felony.
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He created
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a fraudulent document
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and submitted it
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to a federal court.
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He was prosecuted
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when it became public.
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And you know what sentence
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Kevin Kline Smith got?
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You would assume
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if you do something
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that egregious
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to actually spy on somebody
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that you would do
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years, if not a decade.
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That is absolutely right.
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If you create
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a fraudulent document
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to submit to a federal court,
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I'll tell you right now,
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Ben, you or I do that,
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we're doing hard time.
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You don't get to submit
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fraudulent documents
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to a court on purpose,
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particularly when
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you are doing it
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to target the president
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of the United States
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in a partisan vendetta.
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Well, here's what
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the D.C. district judge
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sentenced him to.
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12 months probation
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and 400 hours
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of community service.
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He did not serve
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a single day in jail.
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And by the way,
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his law license
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was restored as well.
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It was an absolute
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slap on the wrist.
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And what is infuriating
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is this is a blatant,
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it is an obvious
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double standard.
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No one can defend it.
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Why did Bannon
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get sentenced?
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Because the Democrats
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hate Steve Bannon.
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And this is about
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punishing your
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political enemies.
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And I think it is
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completely indefensible.
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You go back to Steve Bannon
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for a second
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and why they hate him
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so much.
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This is a guy,
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number one, Senator,
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I think you would
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agree with me.
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You cannot control him.
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He's a guy that went
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into the Trump White House
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and they couldn't
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even control him.
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He immediately comes out
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and starts exposing
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stories and issues
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and telling stories
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the media refuses to tell.
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He was a guy,
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for example,
00:11:43.480
that was on the front lines
00:11:44.700
of the laptop from hell
00:11:47.780
and the hard drive
00:11:48.760
of Hunter Biden
00:11:49.600
and was exposing that
00:11:51.220
on a regular basis.
00:11:52.840
Fast forward to January the 6th
00:11:54.720
and they say,
00:11:55.540
well, Steve Bannon
00:11:56.100
had to be involved.
00:11:57.260
He had to orchestrate this.
00:11:58.700
We have no doubt
00:12:00.320
that he was a part of it
00:12:01.960
and that's where
00:12:02.880
the witch hunt
00:12:03.480
happened against him,
00:12:04.420
which is why
00:12:05.160
they've decided
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to subpoena him
00:12:07.000
and he's like,
00:12:07.500
I don't want to say
00:12:08.240
anything to you.
00:12:08.800
I have nothing to say to you.
00:12:11.080
Well, and not only that,
00:12:12.960
Steve Bannon
00:12:13.440
is also protected.
00:12:14.560
He was a senior advisor
00:12:15.760
to the President
00:12:16.400
of the United States
00:12:17.200
and there is a privilege
00:12:18.460
that is called
00:12:19.080
executive privilege
00:12:20.000
which protects
00:12:20.800
senior advisors
00:12:21.660
to the President
00:12:22.320
of the United States.
00:12:23.180
Why does it do that?
00:12:24.280
Because we want the President
00:12:25.420
to be able to get
00:12:26.160
good and candid advice
00:12:27.380
and if Congress
00:12:28.100
could haul every senior advisor
00:12:29.800
to the President down
00:12:30.760
and force him
00:12:31.300
to testify under oath,
00:12:32.900
the President wouldn't get
00:12:34.200
candid and real advice
00:12:35.420
and by the way,
00:12:36.160
that's a privilege
00:12:36.840
that has been asserted.
00:12:38.940
George Washington asserted it.
00:12:40.440
It has been asserted,
00:12:41.440
I believe,
00:12:41.780
by every President
00:12:42.560
since George Washington,
00:12:44.140
Republicans and Democrats
00:12:46.020
and so Steve Bannon
00:12:47.180
in refusing to comply
00:12:48.240
with Congress
00:12:48.880
was doing his job
00:12:50.700
and let me note,
00:12:52.020
Eric Holder was not.
00:12:53.260
When Eric Holder
00:12:54.040
defied Congress,
00:12:55.200
he was just covering
00:12:55.960
his own ass.
00:12:56.720
He was not protecting
00:12:58.320
executive privilege.
00:12:59.320
He was just saying,
00:13:00.220
I don't want you to catch
00:13:00.940
the bad stuff I've done.
00:13:01.940
I refuse to participate.
00:13:03.520
And why was he subpoenaed?
00:13:04.880
A lot of people
00:13:05.260
may not remember the story
00:13:06.540
of why Congress subpoenaed him
00:13:09.040
and why Congress wanted
00:13:10.100
to talk to Eric Holder
00:13:11.080
in that capacity.
00:13:12.240
So it was a battle
00:13:13.460
over a program
00:13:14.320
that was called
00:13:14.900
Fast and Furious
00:13:16.000
and Fast and Furious
00:13:17.100
is something that
00:13:18.140
was started
00:13:19.400
under the Obama
00:13:20.120
Justice Department
00:13:21.020
where they put illegal guns
00:13:23.980
on the street
00:13:24.720
and they essentially
00:13:25.780
sold them to drug dealers,
00:13:27.600
to Mexican drug cartels
00:13:29.140
and it was a ridiculous program.
00:13:31.540
You should not have
00:13:32.180
the federal government
00:13:32.940
in the business
00:13:33.560
of selling lots of guns
00:13:35.580
to really dangerous people
00:13:36.840
and those guns in turn
00:13:37.900
were used
00:13:38.640
to murder federal agents.
00:13:41.040
So DOJ literally
00:13:42.340
provided and supplied
00:13:44.540
the murder weapons.
00:13:46.180
And Congress,
00:13:47.040
once it was
00:13:47.520
a Republican Congress,
00:13:48.580
Democrats didn't care
00:13:49.340
about it at all.
00:13:50.000
They thought that was just fine
00:13:51.120
that DOJ was selling
00:13:52.200
guns to Mexican drug cartels.
00:13:54.760
When we had
00:13:55.440
a Republican Congress,
00:13:56.380
they said,
00:13:56.860
gosh, this seems
00:13:57.480
like a problem.
00:13:58.740
We want to see
00:13:59.460
all the documents.
00:14:00.300
We want to see
00:14:00.800
what you discussed.
00:14:01.620
We want to see
00:14:02.240
what the hell
00:14:03.820
were you thinking
00:14:04.760
saying guns
00:14:06.320
to drug cartel members
00:14:08.200
and drug hordes in Mexico.
00:14:09.980
That's exactly right.
00:14:11.020
And Eric Holder
00:14:13.280
was covering his own rear end.
00:14:16.020
Kevin Kline Smith
00:14:17.260
was deceiving
00:14:20.140
and committing
00:14:20.740
a fraud on the court
00:14:21.920
in order to carry out
00:14:22.900
a partisan vendetta
00:14:23.960
against someone he hated.
00:14:26.400
Look, you look at Steve Bannon.
00:14:28.040
I know Steve Bannon
00:14:28.960
very, very well.
00:14:30.020
He and I have been friends
00:14:30.820
for a long time.
00:14:31.800
I've worked very,
00:14:32.620
very closely with Steve
00:14:33.700
for years.
00:14:35.140
Steve is smart as hell,
00:14:36.660
number one.
00:14:37.820
But Steve is also
00:14:38.880
a bull in a china closet.
00:14:40.120
Steve does not move gently
00:14:41.900
in anything he does.
00:14:43.840
And in Washington,
00:14:45.620
he broke some china.
00:14:47.120
He ticked off
00:14:47.820
a lot of Democrats
00:14:49.100
because he's not afraid
00:14:50.060
of the Democrats.
00:14:50.840
He's not afraid
00:14:51.380
of the media.
00:14:52.440
And so they want
00:14:53.600
to destroy him,
00:14:54.960
but not because
00:14:56.800
of anything he did.
00:14:58.160
They want to destroy him
00:14:59.360
because they hate him.
00:15:01.060
That is what this is about.
00:15:02.980
This is about corrupting
00:15:04.420
the machinery of government
00:15:05.780
to target your political enemies.
00:15:08.340
And it is outrageous.
00:15:09.900
Anyone who cares remotely
00:15:12.400
about the integrity
00:15:13.440
of the Justice Department
00:15:15.240
or the FBI
00:15:16.000
should be horrified
00:15:18.060
and speak out.
00:15:18.880
And by the way,
00:15:20.140
every Democrat
00:15:21.060
former attorney general,
00:15:22.440
every Democrat prosecutor
00:15:23.760
ought to come out
00:15:24.820
and say this
00:15:25.360
if they have a shred
00:15:26.120
of integrity.
00:15:26.700
And I got to say
00:15:27.780
the silence on the left
00:15:29.240
combined with the gloating
00:15:31.060
from the media
00:15:31.860
has been truly
00:15:33.800
stomach turning.
00:15:35.180
This idea that he wanted
00:15:36.840
this is the headline
00:15:38.220
from CNN is
00:15:39.200
that their analyst
00:15:41.120
said Steve Bannon
00:15:42.140
just got what
00:15:43.520
he's always wanted.
00:15:45.640
They claim that
00:15:46.940
this sentence
00:15:47.420
of four months
00:15:48.080
was his own fault
00:15:49.100
for his refusal
00:15:49.940
to comply with that subpoena.
00:15:51.880
And he did it on purpose.
00:15:53.200
They said this is exactly
00:15:54.620
what he wanted
00:15:55.500
to be looked at
00:15:56.860
as a, quote,
00:15:57.840
martyr.
00:15:58.700
And he deserves
00:15:59.660
to get more time
00:16:00.740
than even four months.
00:16:02.000
He obviously
00:16:02.820
is going to appeal this.
00:16:04.060
I don't think anyone, quote,
00:16:06.700
deserves to go to jail
00:16:08.160
just because you don't
00:16:09.080
like him politically.
00:16:10.060
If you actually commit a crime,
00:16:12.240
that's a different story.
00:16:13.500
But what they're saying is
00:16:15.140
we hate him so much
00:16:16.620
that he deserves this
00:16:18.020
and more.
00:16:19.000
You know, that is
00:16:20.540
maybe among the most
00:16:22.920
ridiculous words
00:16:24.320
ever uttered
00:16:26.280
by CNN.
00:16:27.160
And that's quite a distinction
00:16:28.260
because CNN
00:16:28.860
has a daily business
00:16:30.500
of uttering ridiculous words.
00:16:32.280
But their argument is,
00:16:35.680
look,
00:16:36.780
he really wanted
00:16:37.980
to go to jail
00:16:38.840
because, you know,
00:16:39.380
that's really what
00:16:40.240
Steve Bannon wants
00:16:41.160
is to be locked up
00:16:42.140
with a bunch of bad guys
00:16:43.220
and have to worry about
00:16:44.200
don't bend over
00:16:44.820
for the soap.
00:16:45.900
It is ridiculous.
00:16:47.460
It is outrageous.
00:16:51.440
And to suggest,
00:16:52.880
you know what,
00:16:54.400
maybe CNN ought
00:16:55.280
to be locked up.
00:16:56.000
Isn't that what
00:16:56.460
they've always wanted?
00:16:57.260
I mean, what garbage
00:16:58.160
to say, well, yeah,
00:16:59.720
I mean, you know,
00:17:00.200
we're throwing someone
00:17:00.880
in jail for four months,
00:17:02.100
but gosh,
00:17:02.840
they get to be a martyr.
00:17:03.860
That's like tying someone
00:17:04.840
to the stake
00:17:05.360
and burning them
00:17:06.040
and saying,
00:17:06.700
but hey,
00:17:07.080
they got to be a martyr,
00:17:08.040
so congratulations.
00:17:10.420
It's pure partisan spin.
00:17:12.940
Yeah, and to say
00:17:13.640
that somebody wants it
00:17:15.040
or deserves it
00:17:15.900
because they want it,
00:17:17.060
that's the way
00:17:17.680
they want to spin this
00:17:18.520
so you won't feel
00:17:19.040
sorry for him.
00:17:19.960
And look at the
00:17:20.820
double standard
00:17:21.320
with Eric Holder
00:17:22.040
and the others
00:17:22.480
that we mentioned,
00:17:23.180
I think,
00:17:23.480
is another example
00:17:24.940
of the media
00:17:25.660
is no longer
00:17:26.600
a media in this country.
00:17:27.880
I mean, let me ask you
00:17:28.460
on CNN's analysis.
00:17:31.140
Did Joan of Arc
00:17:32.140
get what she always wanted?
00:17:33.520
She did become a martyr.
00:17:35.060
Yeah.
00:17:35.220
She became a martyr,
00:17:36.860
but she also got tied
00:17:39.600
to a wooden stake
00:17:40.440
and burned to death.
00:17:41.680
I mean,
00:17:42.080
the cynicism of,
00:17:43.700
well,
00:17:44.160
he wants to be a martyr.
00:17:46.100
I promise you,
00:17:47.300
Steve Bannon
00:17:47.800
does not want to go to jail.
00:17:49.180
They know that,
00:17:50.140
but they are reveling
00:17:51.940
in using government power
00:17:54.620
to punish their enemies.
00:17:56.520
Canadian women
00:17:58.160
are looking for more.
00:17:59.520
More out of themselves,
00:18:00.540
their businesses,
00:18:01.480
their elected leaders,
00:18:02.440
and the world around them.
00:18:03.640
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I want to move
00:18:29.220
to another story,
00:18:30.060
Senator,
00:18:30.280
one that I think
00:18:31.160
is very important
00:18:32.700
ahead of the midterms.
00:18:34.360
And that is
00:18:35.240
American school
00:18:36.940
test scores are in.
00:18:38.600
We've got a wealth
00:18:39.660
of knowledge now
00:18:40.660
and information.
00:18:42.040
And the student test scores
00:18:43.460
have plummeted
00:18:45.280
in math
00:18:46.560
and reading
00:18:47.920
and science
00:18:49.640
since the pandemic,
00:18:52.060
since we went
00:18:52.680
to remote learning.
00:18:53.720
Now, also to be clear,
00:18:55.840
we have compare
00:18:56.720
and contrast numbers
00:18:57.700
now on private schools
00:18:59.440
that did not shut down
00:19:00.800
and private schools
00:19:01.840
that did not go
00:19:02.680
to remote learning.
00:19:04.000
And what we're seeing
00:19:05.100
is not only
00:19:06.600
did those kids flourish,
00:19:08.760
continue to flourish
00:19:09.780
in the private schools
00:19:10.720
where they continue
00:19:11.260
to go to school,
00:19:12.180
but now the public school
00:19:13.580
kids that are traditionally
00:19:14.840
even behind
00:19:15.840
the private schools
00:19:16.560
to begin with
00:19:17.300
are now possibly
00:19:18.700
multiple grade levels
00:19:20.720
behind the kids
00:19:22.180
they're basically
00:19:22.820
going to be graduating
00:19:23.960
with that they're
00:19:25.080
having to compete
00:19:25.880
with in the private sector.
00:19:27.120
And Jake Tapper
00:19:28.080
on CNN
00:19:29.580
actually said this
00:19:31.620
in a conversation.
00:19:32.800
I want everyone
00:19:33.600
to hear it.
00:19:34.620
I have to say
00:19:35.140
I'm surprised
00:19:36.080
that there hasn't been
00:19:37.420
a national conversation
00:19:40.100
about the damage
00:19:41.480
done to kids
00:19:42.280
because of these
00:19:43.240
school closures
00:19:44.800
and the virtual learning
00:19:46.100
and everything
00:19:46.840
because,
00:19:47.920
I mean,
00:19:48.120
I'm not saying
00:19:48.500
there should be
00:19:48.980
a national do-over
00:19:50.040
but we can't just pretend
00:19:51.820
that fifth graders
00:19:53.020
who are now
00:19:53.540
seventh graders
00:19:54.300
that that didn't happen.
00:19:57.380
You know,
00:19:57.640
I feel like there should be
00:19:58.960
and not with a blame game.
00:20:00.620
Look, it happened.
00:20:01.800
People did it.
00:20:02.700
It was criticized.
00:20:03.720
The school closures,
00:20:04.620
the virtual learning,
00:20:05.400
et cetera.
00:20:05.720
But here we are.
00:20:08.480
There needs to be
00:20:09.340
like a bipartisan movement,
00:20:11.000
you know?
00:20:11.800
I love that he calls it
00:20:12.840
bipartisan center
00:20:13.880
because he says,
00:20:14.620
well, I don't want to get
00:20:15.100
in the blame game.
00:20:16.300
Of course you don't
00:20:17.340
because we know
00:20:18.180
who closed down the schools.
00:20:19.620
It was the teachers' unions,
00:20:21.260
it was the public administrators
00:20:22.680
and the private schools
00:20:24.320
that had to keep running
00:20:26.520
their schools
00:20:27.440
like a business
00:20:28.380
and made the right decision
00:20:30.280
which was the kids'
00:20:31.440
rate of infection is low.
00:20:33.180
Even if you get it
00:20:34.220
that the health conditions
00:20:35.320
are not as near
00:20:36.240
as life-threatening as adults,
00:20:37.840
they did the right thing
00:20:39.340
and the public schools said,
00:20:40.860
nope,
00:20:41.140
we're going to go virtual.
00:20:42.200
We demand all this
00:20:42.880
federal government money.
00:20:44.000
Every kid's going to get
00:20:44.800
a free computer,
00:20:45.620
a laptop,
00:20:46.320
whatever,
00:20:46.620
free internet
00:20:47.380
and it was a disaster
00:20:49.280
and if you know anyone
00:20:50.220
that was teaching
00:20:50.860
the public school systems,
00:20:51.980
they were telling you
00:20:52.920
in real time
00:20:53.780
it was a disaster
00:20:55.380
and yet now they say,
00:20:56.780
well,
00:20:56.960
shouldn't this be
00:20:57.640
a bipartisan issue
00:20:58.960
where they all agree
00:20:59.900
we shouldn't have done this?
00:21:01.460
Republicans were never
00:21:02.600
in favor of this,
00:21:03.660
Senator.
00:21:05.100
Well,
00:21:05.600
that's certainly true
00:21:06.480
but let me say,
00:21:07.380
Jake Tapper
00:21:07.960
is being so dishonest
00:21:11.840
and hypocritical there
00:21:12.940
that that clip
00:21:14.260
infuriates me as well.
00:21:15.400
I know Jake very well.
00:21:16.960
I've been interviewed
00:21:18.080
by him many,
00:21:20.160
many times.
00:21:21.200
Jake is a very smart guy
00:21:22.280
and he used to be
00:21:24.080
a journalist.
00:21:25.160
He's one of the few people
00:21:27.120
in the corrupt corporate media
00:21:28.320
who actually had
00:21:29.660
a journalistic bone
00:21:30.540
in his body.
00:21:31.220
He cared about
00:21:31.920
being a journalist
00:21:32.640
and when Donald Trump
00:21:33.780
became president,
00:21:34.760
it shattered Jake
00:21:36.800
into a million
00:21:37.460
different little pieces
00:21:38.780
and he's no longer
00:21:40.120
a journalist.
00:21:40.580
He has these
00:21:41.940
occasional pangs
00:21:43.000
but his role
00:21:44.260
for the last six years
00:21:45.440
is to be
00:21:46.140
a dishonest
00:21:47.400
and lying
00:21:48.080
partisan hack,
00:21:49.080
a propagandist.
00:21:50.200
So,
00:21:50.680
when Democrats
00:21:52.360
were shutting down
00:21:53.140
schools,
00:21:53.520
and let's be clear,
00:21:54.720
it was Democrats
00:21:55.640
and only Democrats
00:21:56.700
that shut down
00:21:57.560
schools across the country
00:21:58.760
for a year or more.
00:22:00.500
Republicans did not.
00:22:02.120
It was only Democrats
00:22:04.080
who did so.
00:22:04.880
They did so,
00:22:05.480
as you noted,
00:22:06.560
at the behest
00:22:07.340
of the teachers union,
00:22:08.300
the teachers union bosses,
00:22:09.440
Randy Weingarten
00:22:10.420
is directly responsible
00:22:12.080
for this,
00:22:12.680
the head of one
00:22:13.100
of the biggest
00:22:13.460
teachers unions.
00:22:14.700
She was urging,
00:22:16.320
among other things,
00:22:17.160
the Biden administration
00:22:18.620
to keep the schools
00:22:20.300
shut down.
00:22:21.800
And not only that,
00:22:24.000
Democrats in Congress,
00:22:25.500
every single Democrat
00:22:26.980
in Congress
00:22:27.700
supported the school
00:22:29.460
shutdowns.
00:22:30.340
I forced vote
00:22:32.200
after vote
00:22:32.920
on the Senate floor
00:22:33.820
to reopen the schools.
00:22:36.420
In the middle of COVID,
00:22:37.720
I forced a vote
00:22:39.640
on the Senate floor
00:22:40.440
with the first big
00:22:41.560
so-called COVID relief bill
00:22:42.860
from the Biden administration.
00:22:44.100
They were giving
00:22:44.640
tens of billions
00:22:45.800
of dollars
00:22:46.480
to schools.
00:22:48.320
And I introduced
00:22:49.260
an amendment
00:22:49.700
and I said,
00:22:50.180
okay,
00:22:50.340
I'll tell you what.
00:22:53.220
If you're a school,
00:22:54.540
you can get
00:22:54.960
all of this new money
00:22:56.600
that is just being
00:22:57.340
showered upon you
00:22:58.200
with one requirement,
00:22:59.580
that you actually
00:23:01.060
be open
00:23:01.880
and teaching students
00:23:04.080
in person.
00:23:04.660
If you're teaching
00:23:05.240
them in person,
00:23:05.940
all this money
00:23:06.500
is yours,
00:23:07.080
go have a party,
00:23:07.820
you got all this money,
00:23:08.620
the Democrats
00:23:09.200
are in power.
00:23:10.460
But if you're not open,
00:23:13.000
if you have shut down
00:23:14.140
the schools,
00:23:14.660
if you are not teaching
00:23:15.880
in person,
00:23:17.200
at the time we were voting,
00:23:18.280
there were more,
00:23:19.340
there were 50%
00:23:21.620
of the kids in America
00:23:22.700
were not
00:23:23.500
in in-person schools
00:23:25.960
five days a week.
00:23:26.960
I said,
00:23:27.300
if you're not open,
00:23:28.800
you still get
00:23:29.960
all the money
00:23:30.380
you got yesterday,
00:23:31.180
you get all the billions
00:23:32.180
of dollars you got before,
00:23:33.320
but the new money,
00:23:34.800
we're not going
00:23:35.260
to pay you extra money
00:23:36.520
if you're not doing
00:23:37.420
the damn job
00:23:38.140
you're supposed
00:23:38.500
to be doing.
00:23:40.000
Instead,
00:23:40.800
the new billions
00:23:41.500
of dollars
00:23:42.020
will go to a scholarship
00:23:43.260
to the child,
00:23:44.860
$10,000 per child,
00:23:46.740
so if you shut
00:23:48.020
your school down,
00:23:49.220
that child can go
00:23:50.280
somewhere else
00:23:50.960
and actually get
00:23:51.780
an education.
00:23:53.120
Ben,
00:23:54.140
every single
00:23:55.600
Democrat
00:23:56.520
voted no.
00:23:58.160
It was a party line vote,
00:23:59.320
it failed by one vote.
00:24:00.440
I went,
00:24:01.140
I'll tell you,
00:24:01.520
I went and begged
00:24:02.180
Joe Manchin.
00:24:02.960
Joe Manchin,
00:24:03.960
back in 2017,
00:24:05.540
briefly voted with me
00:24:07.080
on my legislation
00:24:08.620
expanding College 529
00:24:10.220
savings plans
00:24:11.220
to K-12 education.
00:24:13.260
It was the most
00:24:13.800
far-reaching
00:24:14.760
federal school choice
00:24:15.680
legislation
00:24:16.220
that has ever passed.
00:24:17.900
Manchin voted with me
00:24:18.760
for five minutes
00:24:19.500
until Schumer
00:24:20.160
yelled at him
00:24:21.060
and he flipped his vote.
00:24:22.360
I went and asked Joe,
00:24:23.800
I said,
00:24:24.080
Joe,
00:24:24.340
you know this is
00:24:25.220
the right thing to do.
00:24:26.520
Every single Democrat
00:24:27.860
voted no.
00:24:28.840
They are all responsible
00:24:30.180
for the school shutdowns
00:24:31.520
and let me tell you
00:24:32.980
what the,
00:24:33.380
you mentioned the test scores.
00:24:34.700
I want to explain
00:24:35.260
that a little bit.
00:24:36.620
So every year
00:24:37.360
there's a test done
00:24:38.360
by a group
00:24:39.460
that is called NAEP
00:24:40.580
and it's the National
00:24:41.380
Association of Educational
00:24:42.740
Progress
00:24:43.320
and it does
00:24:45.140
national tests
00:24:46.600
on reading and math.
00:24:48.700
September 1st,
00:24:49.640
they released
00:24:50.860
the NAEP scores
00:24:51.740
for fourth graders.
00:24:53.940
The NAEP scores
00:24:54.660
showed an average
00:24:55.840
decline of five points
00:24:57.460
in reading
00:24:58.760
and seven points
00:25:01.120
in math
00:25:01.860
for fourth graders
00:25:02.780
for nine-year-olds
00:25:03.620
compared to 2020.
00:25:05.040
That was the largest
00:25:06.180
decline in reading scores
00:25:07.480
since 1990
00:25:08.320
and the first ever
00:25:09.940
decline in math scores
00:25:11.500
for fourth graders.
00:25:14.040
That was the result
00:25:15.500
of the Democrat shutdowns.
00:25:16.880
Not only that,
00:25:18.340
the racial divide,
00:25:19.700
unfortunately,
00:25:20.220
we have a divide
00:25:21.400
where African-American
00:25:23.020
students and Hispanic
00:25:24.140
students don't perform
00:25:25.260
as well on these tests
00:25:26.280
as white students
00:25:27.040
and obviously a lot
00:25:28.100
of time and energy
00:25:28.760
has been spent
00:25:29.540
into trying to correct
00:25:31.560
that racial divide.
00:25:32.680
Well, guess what?
00:25:34.760
The racial divide
00:25:35.800
grew bigger
00:25:36.620
under the Democrat shutdowns.
00:25:38.420
In particular,
00:25:39.160
math scores
00:25:39.700
for black students
00:25:40.660
declined 13 points.
00:25:43.300
Math scores
00:25:43.980
for Hispanic students
00:25:45.540
declined eight points
00:25:46.880
and math scores
00:25:47.840
for white students
00:25:49.280
declined five points.
00:25:50.540
So the effect
00:25:51.220
of the Democrats
00:25:51.940
was to hurt kids
00:25:53.960
across the country,
00:25:54.840
but especially hurt
00:25:56.100
low-income
00:25:57.200
and minority kids.
00:25:59.000
And for Jake to say,
00:26:00.780
I'm surprised
00:26:02.440
no one is having
00:26:03.460
a conversation.
00:26:05.220
I and many others
00:26:06.520
were screaming
00:26:07.580
on the Senate floor,
00:26:08.720
were forcing votes
00:26:09.620
on the Senate floor,
00:26:10.340
and you know what Jake
00:26:10.900
didn't do?
00:26:12.160
He never covered
00:26:13.020
the vote on the Senate floor.
00:26:14.300
It wasn't news,
00:26:15.900
according to CNN.
00:26:17.480
But Jake didn't even
00:26:18.540
look at all the parents
00:26:20.000
in real time
00:26:21.020
when the school closures
00:26:22.300
were carrying on
00:26:23.160
that were talking
00:26:24.500
about how far behind
00:26:25.700
their kids had gotten,
00:26:27.240
that they were saying
00:26:28.560
it was clear
00:26:29.120
they were behind.
00:26:30.040
They were worried
00:26:30.700
that their kids
00:26:31.320
are going to be
00:26:31.740
socially promoted.
00:26:33.260
There were parents
00:26:34.000
that were saying,
00:26:34.900
I know my kid
00:26:36.480
is not at the level
00:26:38.040
where they should be
00:26:38.680
graduating the grade
00:26:39.660
that they just said
00:26:40.480
they graduated with B's
00:26:41.940
or A's.
00:26:43.180
They were saying
00:26:44.300
this is a fraud.
00:26:45.300
This is a fraud.
00:26:46.160
I refer to it
00:26:47.040
as a form of child abuse.
00:26:48.220
When you set a kid up
00:26:49.580
for failure,
00:26:51.060
right?
00:26:51.560
To me,
00:26:52.680
I called it
00:26:53.180
the educational Ponzi scheme
00:26:54.600
in this country center
00:26:55.440
because you're taking money,
00:26:57.780
you're claiming
00:26:58.760
you're doing something
00:26:59.840
with the kids,
00:27:01.180
and you're not giving them
00:27:03.120
what they paid for,
00:27:04.300
what the money
00:27:04.980
was intended to pay for.
00:27:06.980
That, to me,
00:27:07.700
is a Ponzi scheme.
00:27:08.980
It's the worst kind
00:27:10.180
because these kids
00:27:11.040
are going to graduate
00:27:11.940
and they're going to
00:27:13.160
go on to society
00:27:14.020
and they're going to realize
00:27:15.220
they're not
00:27:15.940
at a 12th grade level.
00:27:17.800
They're at a 10th grade
00:27:18.780
or a 9th grade level
00:27:20.100
at that point in time.
00:27:22.320
Look, that's exactly right.
00:27:24.400
And by the way,
00:27:25.440
this is not just a problem
00:27:26.700
that happened in the past.
00:27:28.540
This is a problem
00:27:29.300
that is happening
00:27:30.000
right now today.
00:27:31.720
So the D.C. public schools
00:27:33.460
have imposed
00:27:34.660
a COVID vaccine mandate.
00:27:37.000
They've announced
00:27:37.780
they're going to
00:27:38.640
throw out of school
00:27:39.520
any student
00:27:41.020
that doesn't have
00:27:41.740
a COVID vaccine.
00:27:42.540
It's supposed to go
00:27:43.320
into effect in January.
00:27:45.660
Let me give you
00:27:46.460
some stats that show you
00:27:47.720
just how idiotic
00:27:48.920
this vaccine mandate is.
00:27:51.080
The D.C. public schools,
00:27:52.360
roughly 80% of the kids
00:27:53.740
have received
00:27:54.240
the COVID vaccine.
00:27:55.420
That means,
00:27:56.100
for those of you
00:27:56.680
doing math,
00:27:57.360
although after the last
00:27:58.740
two years,
00:27:59.300
doing math is harder
00:28:00.080
for people,
00:28:01.340
that means 20%
00:28:02.500
of the students
00:28:03.900
have not had
00:28:05.060
the COVID vaccine.
00:28:06.060
Now, let's look
00:28:06.700
on racial lines
00:28:07.860
because it's even
00:28:08.580
more exacerbated
00:28:09.640
when you look
00:28:10.080
on racial lines.
00:28:11.400
In the D.C. public schools,
00:28:13.320
roughly 60%
00:28:14.340
of the students
00:28:14.920
have received
00:28:15.400
the COVID vaccine.
00:28:16.220
That means 40%
00:28:17.440
of the black students
00:28:18.840
have not received
00:28:20.680
the COVID vaccine.
00:28:21.820
Just a couple of months ago,
00:28:23.180
I forced a vote
00:28:24.100
on the Senate floor
00:28:24.840
and I stood up
00:28:26.100
and said,
00:28:26.740
we should block
00:28:28.520
this vaccine mandate.
00:28:30.600
Why?
00:28:30.920
Because it's idiotic
00:28:32.080
to throw out
00:28:33.660
of school
00:28:34.500
40%
00:28:36.060
of the black kids
00:28:37.300
in the District of Columbia.
00:28:39.000
And I stood
00:28:39.620
on the Senate floor
00:28:40.340
and I argued
00:28:40.840
for the amendment
00:28:41.360
and I forced
00:28:42.000
an amendment
00:28:42.460
and Ben,
00:28:43.780
every single
00:28:45.220
Democrat
00:28:46.060
voted no.
00:28:47.280
All of them.
00:28:48.360
Every one of them.
00:28:49.540
Raphael Warnock
00:28:50.280
in Georgia
00:28:50.860
voted to throw
00:28:51.920
40% of the black kids
00:28:53.360
out of D.C. public schools.
00:28:54.420
And by the way,
00:28:55.140
this is not
00:28:55.700
some abstract point.
00:28:57.480
Let's say
00:28:58.060
you're a 13,
00:28:59.000
14,
00:28:59.600
15-year-old kid
00:29:00.620
at the D.C. public schools.
00:29:02.620
If they throw you out,
00:29:04.200
if they make you
00:29:05.220
a school dropout
00:29:06.880
involuntarily,
00:29:07.900
the chances skyrocket
00:29:10.360
that you go down
00:29:11.880
a road of crime,
00:29:13.520
of substance abuse,
00:29:15.240
of violence,
00:29:16.520
of incarceration,
00:29:17.720
and you have
00:29:18.600
a very good chance
00:29:19.640
of early death.
00:29:21.300
It is cruel.
00:29:22.900
I cannot imagine,
00:29:24.340
I gotta tell you,
00:29:25.100
I literally was looking
00:29:26.360
at my colleagues
00:29:27.240
and wondering,
00:29:29.440
like,
00:29:29.620
what in the hell
00:29:31.420
is going through
00:29:32.300
your mind
00:29:33.180
when you cast
00:29:35.220
a vote
00:29:35.840
to throw
00:29:36.400
40% of the black kids
00:29:37.920
out of the D.C. public schools.
00:29:40.240
And you know what
00:29:40.620
Jake Tapper didn't do?
00:29:42.280
He didn't cover it.
00:29:43.220
He didn't discuss it.
00:29:44.080
He's never asked
00:29:44.680
one Democrat,
00:29:45.520
not a single Democrat.
00:29:46.480
He has Democrats
00:29:46.980
on a show every week.
00:29:48.020
He's never asked
00:29:48.640
one of them,
00:29:49.560
why'd you vote
00:29:50.040
to throw 40%
00:29:51.200
of the black kids
00:29:51.840
out of the D.C. public schools?
00:29:53.920
That's what's amazing
00:29:55.000
for Tapper to say,
00:29:56.500
I'm surprised
00:29:57.880
there's not a conversation
00:29:59.080
about this.
00:30:00.080
There has been
00:30:00.740
a conversation
00:30:01.460
all across America.
00:30:02.680
There's just not
00:30:03.340
a conversation
00:30:04.000
on CNN
00:30:04.680
because CNN
00:30:05.920
is not
00:30:06.360
a journalistic outlet.
00:30:07.980
It is a pure
00:30:09.640
propaganda tool
00:30:10.940
for the hard left.
00:30:12.360
And so,
00:30:12.820
just because Jake
00:30:14.220
ain't talking about it,
00:30:15.640
that is a choice
00:30:16.820
trying to silence
00:30:18.640
and ignore
00:30:19.180
the real conversation
00:30:20.460
that was happening
00:30:21.680
and should have been
00:30:22.260
happening on CNN.
00:30:23.460
I think one of the
00:30:24.340
interesting points
00:30:25.280
that's going to end up
00:30:25.900
coming out of this,
00:30:26.600
Senator,
00:30:26.800
is the fact
00:30:27.240
that there's going
00:30:27.720
to be many,
00:30:28.760
many,
00:30:29.200
many parents.
00:30:32.140
They're going to
00:30:32.600
now start looking
00:30:33.780
at school choice
00:30:35.760
and vouchers
00:30:37.180
through a very
00:30:38.200
different lens
00:30:39.100
and conservatives
00:30:40.080
like you
00:30:40.700
who have been
00:30:41.080
talking about this
00:30:41.720
for decades
00:30:43.040
are going to
00:30:44.040
have to remind them
00:30:45.020
of how important
00:30:45.800
it is to give
00:30:46.600
parents the ability
00:30:47.560
to take their
00:30:48.780
children to the
00:30:49.460
school that best
00:30:50.200
serves them
00:30:51.320
and that is where
00:30:52.620
I think conservatives
00:30:53.500
can capitalize
00:30:54.400
on this absurdity
00:30:55.920
and there are going
00:30:56.720
to be parents
00:30:57.280
who are not going
00:30:57.760
to want to get
00:30:58.120
their kids vaccinated
00:30:59.020
and they deserve
00:31:00.260
to have their kids
00:31:01.080
get a quality education
00:31:02.320
and have the choice
00:31:03.260
to go to a school
00:31:03.960
that's willing
00:31:04.500
to serve their children
00:31:06.400
and that's something
00:31:07.280
that needs to be
00:31:07.640
on the ballot
00:31:08.020
in the midterms.
00:31:08.900
I will tell you,
00:31:09.620
by the way,
00:31:10.100
as a bit of good news,
00:31:11.740
given these idiotic
00:31:12.900
school shutdowns,
00:31:14.000
given the abuses
00:31:15.100
we've seen
00:31:15.980
from school boards
00:31:17.220
and blue state
00:31:18.760
politicians,
00:31:20.280
the national numbers
00:31:21.560
in support of school
00:31:22.660
choice have skyrocketed.
00:31:24.240
There was always
00:31:25.140
a majority
00:31:26.060
and in fact
00:31:26.680
a super majority
00:31:27.520
of voters
00:31:28.020
supported school choice
00:31:29.120
and by the way,
00:31:29.600
that's true
00:31:29.960
not just Republicans,
00:31:31.460
it's true
00:31:31.920
of independents
00:31:32.560
and it's true
00:31:32.960
of Democrats.
00:31:33.740
It's true
00:31:34.180
60 to 70 percent
00:31:35.900
of African Americans
00:31:37.240
in the United States
00:31:37.920
support school choice,
00:31:39.320
same numbers,
00:31:40.100
70 to 80 percent
00:31:41.000
of Hispanics
00:31:41.620
support school choice
00:31:42.620
and those numbers
00:31:44.100
keep going up
00:31:45.220
because so many parents
00:31:46.800
have seen
00:31:47.460
the disaster
00:31:48.420
that their kids
00:31:51.960
unfortunately
00:31:52.780
were subjected to.
00:31:54.540
I want to move
00:31:55.440
to this other issue
00:31:56.720
real quick,
00:31:57.340
Senator,
00:31:57.520
and that's coming
00:31:58.200
out of Canada.
00:32:00.720
I wouldn't be here
00:32:02.120
if it wasn't
00:32:02.940
for my right
00:32:03.440
to carry a firearm.
00:32:04.520
I was a target
00:32:05.780
of a gang initiation.
00:32:07.960
It was two people
00:32:09.260
that shot at us.
00:32:10.320
I was able to shoot back
00:32:11.440
and save my life.
00:32:12.580
I know how important
00:32:13.740
it is to be able
00:32:14.900
to protect
00:32:15.320
and defend yourself
00:32:16.240
but what's happening
00:32:17.200
in Canada right now
00:32:18.400
is truly unprecedented
00:32:20.200
and Trudeau announced
00:32:21.960
it implying
00:32:23.300
that the country
00:32:24.120
and the rest of the world
00:32:24.920
should be envious
00:32:25.960
to them.
00:32:26.440
Take a listen
00:32:27.360
and I'll get
00:32:27.700
your reaction.
00:32:29.200
In May,
00:32:29.980
our government
00:32:30.560
introduced measures
00:32:31.420
to implement
00:32:32.140
a national freeze
00:32:33.660
on handgun ownership.
00:32:35.600
Today,
00:32:36.240
our national freeze
00:32:38.080
on handguns
00:32:39.320
is coming into force.
00:32:40.660
From today forward,
00:32:43.540
it is no longer legal
00:32:45.440
to buy,
00:32:47.440
sell,
00:32:48.060
or transfer
00:32:49.000
a handgun
00:32:50.140
in Canada.
00:32:52.880
Senator,
00:32:53.500
this is something
00:32:54.460
that you would hear
00:32:55.840
back in Nazi Germany
00:32:57.260
to be honest
00:32:58.120
and now they're saying
00:32:59.540
it in Canada
00:33:00.180
like you should
00:33:00.960
cheer it on.
00:33:03.040
Well,
00:33:03.640
a couple of things
00:33:04.380
come to mind.
00:33:05.100
First of all,
00:33:06.300
this is the Democrat
00:33:07.440
vision for America.
00:33:08.600
This is what my colleagues
00:33:10.400
in the Senate want.
00:33:11.340
This is what
00:33:11.740
Dianne Feinstein wants.
00:33:13.040
This is what
00:33:13.460
Chuck Schumer wants.
00:33:14.480
This is what
00:33:14.920
Bernie Sanders wants.
00:33:16.400
This is what
00:33:16.980
Elizabeth Warren wants.
00:33:18.200
This is what
00:33:18.640
AOC wants.
00:33:19.620
This is what
00:33:20.180
Beto O'Rourke wants
00:33:21.860
where he says,
00:33:22.420
hell yes,
00:33:23.080
we're going to
00:33:23.640
take your guns.
00:33:24.380
This is what they want.
00:33:26.120
This is their desire.
00:33:27.580
They are pretending
00:33:28.560
sometimes they don't
00:33:29.880
want this,
00:33:30.880
but they are looking
00:33:31.940
at Justin Trudeau
00:33:33.320
with envy
00:33:34.060
because this
00:33:34.860
is their objective.
00:33:36.120
Now,
00:33:37.180
why have they not
00:33:38.020
been able to
00:33:38.680
implement it so far
00:33:39.820
in the United States?
00:33:40.820
Two reasons.
00:33:42.320
One,
00:33:42.920
politically,
00:33:44.100
there are
00:33:45.400
tens of millions
00:33:47.220
of Americans
00:33:47.980
who care
00:33:49.360
about defending
00:33:50.360
our right
00:33:51.780
to keep
00:33:52.620
and bear arms,
00:33:53.320
about defending
00:33:53.980
our right
00:33:54.500
to protect
00:33:55.120
our homes
00:33:55.640
and our families
00:33:56.300
and our children.
00:33:57.980
Secondly,
00:33:59.220
we have
00:34:00.120
the Second Amendment
00:34:01.260
to the Constitution.
00:34:02.460
Canada,
00:34:02.980
obviously,
00:34:03.440
is not bound
00:34:04.020
by our Constitution.
00:34:04.740
They don't have
00:34:06.500
a Second Amendment
00:34:07.120
and the left
00:34:09.080
hates the Second Amendment.
00:34:10.440
They wish it
00:34:11.020
didn't exist
00:34:11.900
and it is hard
00:34:13.880
to find
00:34:14.560
a more powerful
00:34:16.240
current example
00:34:17.200
of why the Second Amendment
00:34:18.680
is important.
00:34:21.100
Democrats in Congress
00:34:22.720
would do
00:34:23.500
what Justin Trudeau
00:34:24.620
is doing
00:34:25.180
today
00:34:25.940
if they could.
00:34:28.300
They can't
00:34:29.540
because the Second Amendment
00:34:30.920
says the right
00:34:32.460
of the people
00:34:32.980
to keep
00:34:33.360
and bear arms
00:34:34.120
shall not
00:34:35.580
be infringed
00:34:36.760
and it's important
00:34:37.540
to emphasize.
00:34:39.180
The reason
00:34:40.140
the Second Amendment
00:34:41.120
is in the Constitution
00:34:42.040
is obviously
00:34:43.320
right after
00:34:43.820
the First Amendment,
00:34:45.500
right at the top
00:34:46.540
of the Bill of Rights.
00:34:47.940
It's not about
00:34:49.260
target shooting.
00:34:50.380
It's not about hunting.
00:34:51.420
It's not about
00:34:52.380
skeet shooting.
00:34:54.900
The Second Amendment
00:34:55.980
is fundamentally
00:34:56.820
about the right
00:34:57.800
to protect
00:34:58.560
your life
00:34:59.240
and your family.
00:35:00.460
It is about
00:35:00.940
the right
00:35:01.500
that if someone
00:35:02.660
comes into your home
00:35:03.800
seeking to harm
00:35:05.660
your children,
00:35:06.480
seeking to harm
00:35:07.240
your wife,
00:35:08.640
that you have
00:35:09.800
a fundamental right,
00:35:10.980
a God-given right
00:35:11.960
to defend your life
00:35:13.700
and to defend
00:35:14.240
your family.
00:35:15.240
And that's what
00:35:15.840
the right to keep
00:35:16.460
and bear arms
00:35:17.040
is all about.
00:35:18.120
Look, Ben,
00:35:18.580
what you went through,
00:35:20.380
you were attacked
00:35:22.760
by criminals
00:35:24.000
with guns
00:35:25.060
and the fact
00:35:25.780
that you
00:35:26.420
exercised your right
00:35:28.420
to keep and bear arms
00:35:29.600
saved your life.
00:35:30.640
How old were you
00:35:31.440
when that happened, Ben?
00:35:32.280
I was 23 or 4
00:35:35.580
at the time
00:35:36.100
if I remember correctly.
00:35:38.220
That's a fundamental right
00:35:39.800
that the left
00:35:40.520
doesn't want you to have.
00:35:41.740
And I'll give you
00:35:42.260
a statistic
00:35:42.820
from the Obama White House,
00:35:45.560
not normally
00:35:46.560
a source
00:35:47.840
of right-wing statistics.
00:35:50.380
The Obama White House
00:35:51.920
laid out
00:35:54.220
that every year
00:35:55.180
in the United States
00:35:56.180
firearms are used
00:35:57.740
defensively
00:35:58.900
to stop a crime
00:36:00.340
between 500,000
00:36:03.320
and 1 million times
00:36:04.920
every year.
00:36:06.060
That's a stat
00:36:06.820
from the Obama White House.
00:36:08.040
Yours was one of them,
00:36:08.900
so you were one
00:36:09.620
of that 500,000
00:36:10.760
to a million that year.
00:36:13.460
What Trudeau
00:36:15.100
is saying in Canada
00:36:16.080
and what liberals
00:36:18.900
and Democrats
00:36:20.440
in America
00:36:21.180
are saying
00:36:21.780
is they want
00:36:22.880
that number
00:36:23.340
to drop to zero.
00:36:24.760
And you know
00:36:25.260
what will happen
00:36:25.880
as a result?
00:36:26.620
If you don't have
00:36:27.380
a right to keep
00:36:27.980
and bear arms,
00:36:28.580
if you don't have
00:36:29.080
a right to protect yourself,
00:36:30.680
there will be more murders
00:36:32.280
because the murderers
00:36:34.180
will have their guns,
00:36:35.400
but no one will have
00:36:36.740
the ability
00:36:37.100
to defend themselves.
00:36:38.240
There will be more rapes
00:36:39.780
because the rapists
00:36:41.320
will have their weapons
00:36:42.480
and no one will have
00:36:45.660
the ability
00:36:46.060
to defend themselves.
00:36:46.960
There will be
00:36:47.300
more violent assaults.
00:36:49.300
Look,
00:36:49.640
when you saw
00:36:50.340
Antifa
00:36:51.020
and Black Lives Matter
00:36:52.280
riots
00:36:52.880
all across the country,
00:36:54.420
it was the people
00:36:55.060
that had the ability
00:36:55.800
to defend themselves
00:36:56.760
who had at least
00:36:57.540
some check
00:36:59.640
to the lawless
00:37:03.120
violence
00:37:03.880
that was waging outside
00:37:05.500
and Democrats
00:37:06.840
want to take away
00:37:08.400
your ability
00:37:09.340
to keep yourself safe
00:37:11.300
and this is a really
00:37:12.660
chilling reminder
00:37:13.520
that this is not fanciful.
00:37:15.980
This is reality
00:37:18.240
and we're saying it
00:37:19.520
just to our northern neighbor.
00:37:21.340
Senator,
00:37:22.020
one last thing
00:37:22.720
and I want to bring this up
00:37:23.720
and I know you've got to run
00:37:24.720
to the airport in a second
00:37:26.120
but I think this is
00:37:27.240
very important
00:37:28.180
that we mention it
00:37:29.000
to everyone listening
00:37:30.140
to Verdict today
00:37:30.860
and that's this.
00:37:32.660
The balance of the Senate
00:37:34.780
could very likely,
00:37:37.240
there's a real possibility,
00:37:39.160
could come down
00:37:40.260
to a race in Utah.
00:37:42.340
There is a race in Utah
00:37:43.720
with Senator Mike Lee.
00:37:45.140
We mentioned it
00:37:45.900
on this show last week.
00:37:47.660
This is a race
00:37:48.700
that Democrats
00:37:49.820
understand the value
00:37:51.280
of this fake Democrat
00:37:53.880
he's running
00:37:54.340
as an independent.
00:37:55.580
They understand
00:37:56.080
that he's valuable
00:37:56.900
to them possibly
00:37:57.600
holding control
00:37:58.440
of the Senate.
00:37:59.620
The amount of money
00:38:00.560
that's coming in
00:38:01.300
from outside the state of Utah
00:38:02.420
is going to end up
00:38:03.720
being historic
00:38:04.620
in Utah politics
00:38:06.720
and this is a race
00:38:09.200
that many of you
00:38:10.400
listening to Verdict
00:38:11.380
right now,
00:38:12.280
if you can,
00:38:13.760
donate to Senator Mike Lee.
00:38:15.500
He's a good friend of yours.
00:38:16.700
He's a good man
00:38:17.480
running for office there.
00:38:19.120
Get involved.
00:38:20.140
If you have family
00:38:21.120
or friends in Utah,
00:38:22.720
you need to be reaching out
00:38:24.160
to them and advocating
00:38:25.080
for Senator Mike Lee
00:38:26.160
and this is a race
00:38:27.540
that Democrats
00:38:28.120
are going all in on.
00:38:29.500
This is also a race
00:38:30.400
that may end up
00:38:30.960
taking you back to Utah
00:38:32.200
even though you were
00:38:32.980
just with them
00:38:33.480
on that bus trip
00:38:34.200
because it's going
00:38:34.720
to be so important.
00:38:36.120
No, that's exactly right.
00:38:38.000
This race is dangerous.
00:38:39.620
It's a real race.
00:38:40.540
There's a real possibility
00:38:41.640
that Mike could lose
00:38:42.720
and the reason is
00:38:44.420
what is happening in Utah
00:38:45.900
is one of the most dishonest
00:38:47.540
and deceptive things
00:38:48.540
I've ever seen in politics
00:38:50.360
and it's several things
00:38:52.220
coming together.
00:38:53.000
You have Evan McMullin
00:38:54.220
who you remember in 2016
00:38:55.980
ran as an independent
00:38:57.460
against Donald Trump
00:38:59.660
and Hillary Clinton
00:39:00.400
and he claimed
00:39:01.180
he was kind of a nice Republican.
00:39:04.100
He wasn't Trump
00:39:05.020
and he was just a nice guy
00:39:06.300
and he ended up getting
00:39:07.720
a lot of votes in Utah.
00:39:09.860
He's Mormon
00:39:10.540
and folks in Utah
00:39:13.800
that didn't like
00:39:15.420
what Trump said
00:39:16.340
and how he talked
00:39:17.100
they voted for McMullin.
00:39:19.400
All right, fast forward to now
00:39:20.640
McMullin is one of the many
00:39:22.180
never Trump Republicans
00:39:23.980
who are broken
00:39:24.820
who are shattered
00:39:25.680
who are so filled
00:39:27.080
with hate for Donald Trump
00:39:28.320
that they've abandoned
00:39:29.800
everything they claim to believe.
00:39:32.460
So McMullin is now running
00:39:33.920
as a quote
00:39:35.140
independent in Utah.
00:39:37.180
He is not an independent.
00:39:38.660
Evan McMullin is a Democrat
00:39:40.840
who will elect Chuck Schumer.
00:39:42.920
My confidence level
00:39:44.400
on that is 100%.
00:39:46.120
Let me lay out why.
00:39:48.220
So McMullin is claiming
00:39:49.880
he says
00:39:51.120
I will not conference
00:39:52.540
with either side.
00:39:53.600
I'm not going to caucus
00:39:54.320
with the Republicans.
00:39:55.280
I'm not going to caucus
00:39:55.940
with the Democrats.
00:39:57.160
I'm going to be a happy
00:39:58.620
independent floating
00:40:00.100
like a bee
00:40:00.980
just peaceful and happy.
00:40:03.480
Well, let me give you
00:40:04.940
some data points.
00:40:06.600
Number one,
00:40:07.380
the Democrat Party
00:40:08.320
in Utah
00:40:09.200
did not run a Democrat.
00:40:11.680
They chose
00:40:12.260
let's not have a Democrat
00:40:13.260
at all.
00:40:13.740
So they didn't nominate anyone.
00:40:15.780
Number two,
00:40:17.060
the Democrat Party
00:40:17.980
in Utah
00:40:18.540
formally endorsed
00:40:20.840
Evan McMullin.
00:40:22.740
So they're telling
00:40:23.740
all the Democrats
00:40:24.460
vote for McMullin.
00:40:26.220
Number three,
00:40:27.200
McMullin is raising
00:40:28.340
his money using ActBlue,
00:40:30.100
which is the online portal
00:40:31.480
that you have
00:40:32.580
left-wingers
00:40:33.240
and socialists
00:40:33.900
and Democrats
00:40:34.400
from all over the country
00:40:35.340
fueling millions
00:40:36.560
and millions
00:40:37.140
of dollars
00:40:37.580
into the race.
00:40:38.240
He's being funded
00:40:39.220
by the same people
00:40:40.700
that fund Bernie Sanders
00:40:41.860
and AOC
00:40:42.420
and Elizabeth Warren.
00:40:44.940
Number four,
00:40:46.120
just in the last quarter,
00:40:47.440
Evan McMullin spent
00:40:48.340
$1.6 million
00:40:49.860
going to Democrat
00:40:51.280
consultants
00:40:51.860
and operatives
00:40:52.700
who were running
00:40:53.700
his campaign.
00:40:55.380
Number five,
00:40:57.020
in the last few days,
00:40:59.020
he had a fundraiser
00:41:00.860
hosted by John Tester
00:41:02.560
who used to lead
00:41:03.960
the Democratic
00:41:05.180
Senatorial Committee,
00:41:06.500
the political arm
00:41:07.980
of Chuck Schumer
00:41:08.840
that is devoted
00:41:09.960
to electing Democrats
00:41:11.880
and to keeping Schumer
00:41:12.920
as majority leader.
00:41:14.240
John Tester knows
00:41:15.020
exactly what he's doing,
00:41:16.480
which is trying
00:41:18.080
to put in place
00:41:19.060
someone who will vote
00:41:20.800
for Chuck Schumer.
00:41:21.940
Now,
00:41:22.760
why is it dangerous?
00:41:24.380
Why is bright red Utah
00:41:25.720
even competitive?
00:41:28.000
Well,
00:41:28.240
the reason it's dangerous
00:41:29.240
is McMullin is getting
00:41:31.080
all of the Democrats
00:41:32.260
and there are 40-some-odd
00:41:33.480
percent of voters
00:41:34.600
in Utah are Democrats.
00:41:36.680
And then he is picking up
00:41:38.020
some of the moderate Republicans,
00:41:41.560
some of the more moderate Republicans.
00:41:45.360
So if you look at
00:41:45.980
McMullin's campaign ads,
00:41:47.980
he looks like a Republican.
00:41:49.320
He talks about securing
00:41:50.400
the border.
00:41:51.080
He talks,
00:41:51.480
I mean,
00:41:51.780
everything he talks about
00:41:53.060
is Republican.
00:41:54.280
Because he knows Democrat,
00:41:55.440
if he was a real Democrat,
00:41:56.520
he couldn't win this thing.
00:41:57.880
That's why they've had to lie
00:41:59.040
to the people
00:42:00.560
and imply that he's
00:42:01.780
actually somehow
00:42:03.000
an independent,
00:42:04.780
conservative,
00:42:05.740
Republican-esque candidate.
00:42:07.920
That's why this is a big lie.
00:42:10.940
Well,
00:42:11.200
and Ben,
00:42:11.580
let me tell you the question
00:42:13.000
that Evan McMullin
00:42:14.920
should be forced to answer,
00:42:17.400
but because we have
00:42:18.700
a corporate media
00:42:19.420
that are not actually journalists,
00:42:20.860
he hasn't been forced
00:42:21.560
to answer it.
00:42:22.980
He says,
00:42:23.660
well,
00:42:23.780
I'm not going to caucus
00:42:24.640
with either side,
00:42:25.380
so isn't that
00:42:25.960
wonderfully independent?
00:42:26.940
That's not the question.
00:42:29.040
Let's suppose in January,
00:42:31.900
we have 50 Republican senators
00:42:34.040
that are elected,
00:42:35.860
and we have 49 Democrat senators
00:42:38.920
that are elected,
00:42:41.060
and Evan McMullin.
00:42:44.120
If that happens,
00:42:47.320
McMullin will have a choice,
00:42:48.840
and he will have to vote.
00:42:49.900
It doesn't matter
00:42:50.360
who he caucuses with.
00:42:51.380
It doesn't matter
00:42:51.620
who he has lunch with.
00:42:52.820
At the opening of the Senate,
00:42:54.560
he will have a vote,
00:42:55.380
and he will have
00:42:55.720
one of two choices.
00:42:56.580
If he does nothing,
00:42:58.440
if he abstains,
00:42:59.420
if he votes for Mickey Mouse,
00:43:01.580
then Republicans
00:43:03.000
will be the majority
00:43:03.880
of the Senate.
00:43:06.160
On the other hand,
00:43:07.800
if he votes for Chuck Schumer,
00:43:11.600
Kamala Harris as vice president
00:43:13.200
will break the 50-50 tie,
00:43:15.100
and the Democrats
00:43:16.000
will be the majority.
00:43:17.860
Now,
00:43:18.060
if Chuck Schumer
00:43:18.700
is the majority leader,
00:43:20.780
what will that mean?
00:43:21.760
That will mean
00:43:22.440
that Bernie Sanders
00:43:23.360
will remain
00:43:24.040
the budget chairman.
00:43:25.260
That will mean
00:43:26.080
that Dick Durbin
00:43:26.920
will remain
00:43:27.420
the chairman of judiciary,
00:43:28.760
which means
00:43:29.500
we will do nothing
00:43:30.440
to have oversight
00:43:31.540
of the Biden administration.
00:43:32.520
We will do nothing
00:43:33.600
to have oversight
00:43:34.520
of the corruption
00:43:35.140
of this administration.
00:43:36.080
We will do nothing
00:43:36.900
to examine
00:43:37.940
the origins of COVID-19
00:43:39.460
and the Wuhan Institute
00:43:40.420
for Virology.
00:43:41.520
We'll do nothing
00:43:42.400
to examine the evidence
00:43:44.080
of Hunter Biden
00:43:44.760
and Joe Biden's
00:43:45.480
corruption with China.
00:43:46.860
We will do nothing
00:43:47.640
to secure the border,
00:43:48.600
just like the Democrats
00:43:49.640
have done nothing
00:43:50.280
for the last two years.
00:43:52.460
And by the way,
00:43:53.300
if you think
00:43:53.980
that that is an outcome
00:43:56.080
that McMullen doesn't like,
00:44:00.020
he voted for Joe Biden.
00:44:02.120
He voted for Joe Biden.
00:44:03.560
He actively defends Joe Biden.
00:44:05.160
And yet,
00:44:06.340
they are deceiving the voters
00:44:08.920
because the voters
00:44:09.800
are thinking,
00:44:10.560
well, he's kind of,
00:44:11.220
sort of Republican.
00:44:12.060
No.
00:44:13.080
He is a Democrat
00:44:14.660
through and through,
00:44:16.020
and no reporter
00:44:17.660
has asked him the question.
00:44:19.640
Mr. McMullen,
00:44:20.860
if there are 50 Republicans
00:44:22.780
and 49 Democrats,
00:44:25.100
your vote will determine
00:44:27.120
who has the majority.
00:44:29.680
It doesn't matter
00:44:30.180
who you caucus with.
00:44:31.060
That's not an answer.
00:44:33.040
Which way will you vote?
00:44:34.980
And the odds,
00:44:36.460
I believe,
00:44:37.020
are 100.000%.
00:44:39.800
He will vote
00:44:41.160
for Chuck Schumer
00:44:41.980
and empower
00:44:43.160
the lawless corruption
00:44:45.020
we have seen
00:44:46.000
in Washington.
00:44:46.720
If you want to help
00:44:48.360
Senator Lee,
00:44:49.120
you can go to
00:44:49.900
LeeForSenate.com
00:44:52.280
LeeForSenate.com
00:44:54.340
and tell your family
00:44:55.740
and friends
00:44:56.260
if they are out there
00:44:57.160
and able to vote
00:44:58.040
in Utah
00:44:58.780
about the importance
00:45:00.440
of this race.
00:45:01.100
If you want to take
00:45:02.060
articles
00:45:02.680
I've written about Lee,
00:45:04.320
post them on social media,
00:45:05.680
tell your friends,
00:45:06.400
just support Lee
00:45:07.420
and help that go viral.
00:45:09.640
It's so important
00:45:10.680
in this race.
00:45:11.560
And Ben,
00:45:12.020
let me say
00:45:12.420
two other things.
00:45:13.220
Number one,
00:45:16.280
so let's take
00:45:16.900
the question of life.
00:45:18.720
When McMullen
00:45:19.580
was running
00:45:20.100
for president in 2016,
00:45:21.240
he claimed to be pro-life.
00:45:23.320
He claimed to want
00:45:24.680
to see Roe vs. Wade
00:45:25.660
overturned.
00:45:27.500
Now that it actually
00:45:28.580
has been overturned,
00:45:30.500
McMullen has had
00:45:31.240
a change of heart.
00:45:32.020
He suddenly realizes,
00:45:33.180
oh crap,
00:45:33.560
I need to get all
00:45:34.080
the Democrats
00:45:34.500
to vote for me.
00:45:35.200
So he's now against
00:45:36.240
Roe vs. Wade
00:45:36.980
being overturned.
00:45:38.660
Just today online,
00:45:42.560
Robbie George,
00:45:43.520
Robbie George
00:45:44.080
is a professor
00:45:44.660
at Princeton University.
00:45:45.800
He was my thesis advisor
00:45:47.060
in college.
00:45:47.760
He is one of the most
00:45:48.620
respected conservatives
00:45:50.420
in the country.
00:45:51.380
He is a man
00:45:52.520
of impeccable character,
00:45:53.840
a man of impeccable judgment.
00:45:55.860
He wrote a detailed
00:45:56.900
description about
00:45:57.860
Evan McMullen
00:45:58.460
calling him in 2016
00:46:00.440
and trying to get
00:46:02.600
his support
00:46:03.120
in the 2016 campaign.
00:46:04.600
And Robbie wrote
00:46:05.280
how he asked him
00:46:06.040
at great length
00:46:06.820
about life
00:46:07.960
and about his support
00:46:08.980
for life.
00:46:09.600
And he said
00:46:10.560
McMullen swore up and down
00:46:12.000
he was opposed to Roe
00:46:13.000
and he would fight against it.
00:46:14.920
And Robbie just recounts
00:46:16.640
how everything he said
00:46:17.880
to me,
00:46:18.200
either he was lying
00:46:19.140
through his teeth then
00:46:20.280
or he believes nothing
00:46:23.020
and is willing to change it
00:46:24.140
for convenience now.
00:46:25.120
It really is a devastating
00:46:26.960
indictment
00:46:28.840
because it shows,
00:46:31.180
what it shows
00:46:31.920
is that he's a Democrat,
00:46:32.760
that he's an opportunist
00:46:34.060
and he's taking advantage
00:46:36.360
of deception.
00:46:38.320
I'll say secondly,
00:46:40.380
you want to understand
00:46:41.200
what the stakes are
00:46:42.220
in this race.
00:46:44.160
If Schumer is still
00:46:45.480
majority leader
00:46:46.260
because people in Utah
00:46:47.400
have been fooled
00:46:48.060
into voting for Evan McMullen
00:46:49.240
and there's another vacancy
00:46:52.120
on the Supreme Court,
00:46:53.760
the Democrats will ram
00:46:55.360
through another
00:46:56.020
left-wing ideologue
00:46:57.180
who will undermine
00:46:58.140
our free speech rights,
00:46:59.260
our religious liberty rights,
00:47:00.600
our Second Amendment,
00:47:01.720
all of our fundamental rights.
00:47:03.220
So when you are voting,
00:47:04.460
if you vote for Evan McMullen,
00:47:05.700
you are voting
00:47:06.860
to take away
00:47:07.500
religious liberty
00:47:08.320
from Americans
00:47:09.860
and from people in Utah.
00:47:12.140
Not only that,
00:47:14.040
McMullen has said
00:47:15.260
that he supports
00:47:16.440
S-1.
00:47:19.340
What is S-1?
00:47:20.620
S-1 is Chuck Schumer's
00:47:23.440
number one priority.
00:47:24.500
It is the federal takeover
00:47:25.620
of elections.
00:47:26.920
It strikes down
00:47:27.900
virtually every voter
00:47:29.720
integrity law
00:47:30.460
in the country.
00:47:31.020
It strikes down
00:47:31.620
photo ID laws.
00:47:32.880
It strikes down
00:47:33.740
prohibitions on ballot harvesting.
00:47:35.420
It automatically registers
00:47:37.580
millions of illegal aliens
00:47:39.100
to vote.
00:47:40.340
The purpose of S-1
00:47:42.020
is to ensure
00:47:42.940
that Democrats
00:47:43.740
will remain
00:47:45.320
in power forever
00:47:46.780
and that it becomes
00:47:47.680
effectively impossible
00:47:48.840
to vote them out.
00:47:49.960
The fact that
00:47:51.080
McMullen supports that
00:47:53.160
makes perfectly clear
00:47:55.420
that if you vote for him,
00:47:59.120
you are voting
00:48:00.120
for Chuck Schumer
00:48:01.040
and that is
00:48:01.960
absolutely
00:48:03.560
tragically
00:48:05.060
unacceptable
00:48:05.760
I think
00:48:06.360
to a large majority
00:48:07.500
of people
00:48:09.440
from Utah,
00:48:10.220
even very moderate
00:48:11.020
people from Utah,
00:48:12.420
they don't like
00:48:13.600
what the Democrats
00:48:14.300
are doing
00:48:14.880
and they need
00:48:15.360
to understand
00:48:16.080
McMullen and the media
00:48:17.580
are lying to them
00:48:18.880
by suggesting
00:48:19.720
that he would be
00:48:20.920
anything other than
00:48:22.240
a Democrat foot
00:48:23.360
soldier for Chuck Schumer.
00:48:25.000
Yeah, get involved,
00:48:26.480
go to the website
00:48:27.320
leadforsenate.com
00:48:28.940
Senator, I appreciate it
00:48:30.860
as always,
00:48:31.420
our conversations.
00:48:32.480
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00:48:32.940
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Senator, a pleasure.
00:48:55.320
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00:48:56.120
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