Verdict with Ted Cruz - June 23, 2023


Smoking-Gun Evidence of Biden Corruption, plus Leftists Try to Destroy Women's Sports


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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:05.400 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.
00:00:07.980 Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.060 Senator Biden has got a lot to be smiling about.
00:00:12.820 He gave a thumbs up when he was asked by the media,
00:00:15.980 how is Hunter doing?
00:00:17.800 With a little bit of a grin, like we got away with it.
00:00:20.800 But there are new whistleblowers out that are saying
00:00:23.220 that the corruption within our government is massive.
00:00:26.740 The IRS, we're being told, former whistleblower recommended
00:00:30.700 felony tax charges against Hunter Biden,
00:00:33.860 and the DOJ apparently balked.
00:00:36.220 That's not all.
00:00:37.280 We're hearing that multiple times when there were big things
00:00:40.100 that they wanted to investigate,
00:00:41.720 they kept being shut down.
00:00:44.480 Your reaction to this?
00:00:46.700 Well, the whistleblowers that we heard from yesterday,
00:00:50.100 it's really quite stunning.
00:00:51.660 So the House Ways and Means Committee
00:00:54.420 released transcripts of interviews
00:00:56.300 with two IRS whistleblowers
00:00:58.660 who came forward and said
00:01:00.180 that the Biden Justice Department
00:01:02.620 actively, aggressively interfered
00:01:05.800 in the investigation of Hunter Biden,
00:01:08.140 that they protected Hunter Biden,
00:01:09.960 that they blocked felony charges against Hunter Biden,
00:01:13.080 that they prevented the investigation
00:01:15.400 from in any way, shape, or form
00:01:17.640 asking about Joe Biden.
00:01:21.720 These transcripts, they're stunning.
00:01:23.880 They are anyone who cares about the rule of law.
00:01:29.860 Look, I get this is a partisan divide.
00:01:32.520 So Republicans say, oh, this is really bad,
00:01:34.980 and Democrats say, what?
00:01:35.900 Nothing to see here.
00:01:36.640 We hate Trump.
00:01:38.240 But if you actually care about the rule of law,
00:01:42.020 these allegations are not coming from partisan Republicans.
00:01:45.160 They're coming from career senior IRS officials
00:01:49.140 and investigators who are appalled,
00:01:52.240 who are absolutely appalled at what happened.
00:01:55.460 And they alleged that the Biden Justice Department
00:02:00.680 blocked the serving of a search warrant
00:02:04.960 on Joe Biden's guest house where Hunter was staying
00:02:08.660 because they said that would look bad.
00:02:11.520 That would look bad.
00:02:12.700 Wait, wait, let's say that again.
00:02:13.740 Let's because this is not being covered.
00:02:15.420 I want you to say that again so everybody understands
00:02:18.880 how massive of a deal this is.
00:02:21.680 The investigators wanted to execute a search warrant
00:02:25.080 on Joe Biden's guest house.
00:02:27.440 Wow.
00:02:28.080 Which is where Hunter Biden was staying.
00:02:31.720 And DOJ said, no, that would look bad.
00:02:34.000 The optics, they said, would be bad.
00:02:35.940 So you can't execute a search warrant.
00:02:40.920 The investigators were told you are not allowed
00:02:44.620 to ask about Hunter Biden's dad or the big guy.
00:02:49.300 Those questions are not allowed.
00:02:52.780 There are payments that went to Hunter Biden's kids.
00:02:59.280 They were told you are not allowed to interview the kids
00:03:04.520 because it would look really bad
00:03:07.100 if we interview the president's grandkids.
00:03:11.260 The level of detail on this is stunning.
00:03:16.420 We are told that the investigators recommended
00:03:20.060 bringing felony charges.
00:03:22.060 And let me give you some of the statistics.
00:03:24.140 The whistleblowers testified that Hunter Biden
00:03:28.440 failed to pay more than $2.2 million in taxes.
00:03:34.060 Mind you, he's serving not a day in jail.
00:03:35.820 $2.2 million in taxes that he didn't pay.
00:03:38.780 And that was from, do you know how much he made
00:03:41.820 from foreign entities?
00:03:44.380 I can't, well, the real question is
00:03:46.760 what's the real number, right?
00:03:47.960 Because that number seems to be changing all the time.
00:03:50.780 Well, it does.
00:03:51.800 But here's what the whistleblower said,
00:03:53.440 that they had evidence that he had received
00:03:55.300 $8.3 million from foreign entities
00:04:00.540 in Ukraine, in China, and in Romania.
00:04:04.880 And he received at least $6 million
00:04:06.980 from CEFC China Energy,
00:04:10.940 which is an energy conglomerate
00:04:13.160 linked to the Chinese military intelligence.
00:04:16.540 So you've got Hunter Biden making $6 million
00:04:19.260 from the Chinese Communist Party.
00:04:21.220 You've got a Romanian businessman
00:04:23.980 investigated for bribery
00:04:25.640 who paid Hunter Biden another $1 million.
00:04:30.100 And Burisma paid Hunter Biden $83,000 a month
00:04:35.140 to serve on its board of directors.
00:04:38.900 When you hear it that way,
00:04:41.040 and you also see that we're going to get
00:04:43.480 14 hours of transcribed interviews
00:04:45.360 with these two IRS whistleblowers
00:04:47.060 and their story of really how the federal government
00:04:49.000 mishandled, didn't handle,
00:04:51.320 they mishandled this investigation
00:04:53.020 into this high-profile individual,
00:04:56.120 the president's son.
00:04:58.160 The White House almost knew
00:04:59.820 or acted like they could just get away
00:05:02.000 with anything they wanted to,
00:05:04.460 and they could take money
00:05:05.640 from anywhere in the world,
00:05:07.400 from the worst people in the world.
00:05:09.260 They weren't even trying to hide it.
00:05:11.120 Yes, they had their shell companies, right?
00:05:13.960 We know that.
00:05:14.980 Yes, there were bribes coming in.
00:05:16.400 But this was normal business habits for them.
00:05:20.000 The entire time that he was the vice president,
00:05:23.660 part of the time when he was a senator,
00:05:26.100 his brother James Biden was in on it as well,
00:05:28.500 and yet when the government had a chance
00:05:31.380 to look at this,
00:05:32.660 when they saw the evidence,
00:05:34.040 the whistleblowers were saying,
00:05:35.580 they said shut it down,
00:05:37.060 don't look at it,
00:05:37.900 don't do it,
00:05:38.640 don't touch it.
00:05:40.000 It's even worse than that.
00:05:42.480 So, Gary Shapley,
00:05:45.520 who is this IRS whistleblower,
00:05:48.920 testified that they had a WhatsApp message
00:05:51.680 sent by Hunter Biden
00:05:53.960 to a Chinese businessman named Henry Zhao.
00:05:56.580 And here's what he says.
00:06:00.660 Quote,
00:06:02.080 this is from Hunter Biden.
00:06:03.960 I am sitting here
00:06:05.700 with my father,
00:06:08.600 and we would like to understand
00:06:11.780 why the commitment
00:06:13.620 has not been fulfilled.
00:06:16.820 I am very concerned
00:06:18.500 that the chairman has either changed his mind
00:06:21.540 or broken our deal without telling me,
00:06:25.240 and that he is unaware
00:06:27.220 of the promises
00:06:28.420 and assurances
00:06:30.460 that have been made
00:06:31.780 and not been kept.
00:06:34.620 And he continues,
00:06:35.780 he says,
00:06:36.240 quote,
00:06:37.060 tell the director
00:06:38.200 that I would like to resolve this now
00:06:41.260 before it gets out of hand
00:06:44.000 and now means
00:06:45.580 tonight
00:06:46.480 and Z,
00:06:49.660 if I get a call
00:06:51.620 or text
00:06:53.080 from anyone involved in this
00:06:55.880 other than you,
00:06:57.360 Zhang,
00:06:57.860 or the chairman,
00:06:59.180 I will make certain
00:07:01.460 that the man sitting next to me,
00:07:05.120 that would be Joe Biden,
00:07:06.860 and every person he knows,
00:07:09.620 and my ability
00:07:12.100 to forever hold a grudge
00:07:15.640 that you will regret
00:07:17.920 not following my direction.
00:07:21.840 So to be clear,
00:07:23.040 he's threatening
00:07:23.960 the United States government
00:07:26.060 will come down on them
00:07:27.520 if they don't do
00:07:28.600 what they said
00:07:29.200 they were going to do
00:07:29.740 with the Biden crime family.
00:07:31.240 Look,
00:07:31.800 that's exactly right.
00:07:32.920 My understanding
00:07:33.500 of the timing of this
00:07:34.480 is this is immediately
00:07:35.500 after Biden
00:07:36.720 had finished serving
00:07:37.580 as vice president.
00:07:39.340 So he was the immediate
00:07:40.960 former vice president
00:07:42.160 and he was preparing
00:07:43.640 to be a candidate
00:07:44.420 for president.
00:07:45.840 And let's be clear,
00:07:47.980 Hunter Biden
00:07:48.580 is demanding money
00:07:49.540 from the Chinese communists
00:07:52.460 and he says
00:07:53.260 the opening line
00:07:55.140 of this WhatsApp
00:07:55.900 is I'm sitting here
00:07:57.640 with my father.
00:08:01.380 And we,
00:08:02.420 not me,
00:08:03.440 we,
00:08:04.220 Joe Biden,
00:08:05.000 the former vice president,
00:08:06.340 fixing to be
00:08:06.840 the next president
00:08:07.620 wants to know
00:08:08.760 why the commitment
00:08:09.240 has not been fulfilled
00:08:10.120 and he makes very clear
00:08:11.440 you either resolve this
00:08:14.200 tonight,
00:08:15.100 not tomorrow,
00:08:16.080 not the next day,
00:08:16.880 tonight,
00:08:17.720 or,
00:08:18.480 and let's go back
00:08:19.100 to what it says,
00:08:19.820 quote,
00:08:20.900 I will make certain
00:08:22.500 that between
00:08:24.480 the man sitting next to me
00:08:26.080 that would be Joe Biden
00:08:27.100 and every person he knows
00:08:29.740 that would be every Democrat,
00:08:31.380 that would be Barack Obama,
00:08:32.480 that would be Michelle Obama,
00:08:33.520 that would be Hillary Clinton,
00:08:34.400 that would be Bill Clinton,
00:08:35.300 that would be every Democrat
00:08:36.720 cabinet member,
00:08:37.420 he knows a lot of people,
00:08:38.280 he's Joe Biden.
00:08:39.780 And my ability
00:08:41.120 to forever hold a grudge
00:08:43.320 that you will regret
00:08:46.040 not following my direction,
00:08:48.320 Ben,
00:08:48.640 this is as close
00:08:50.260 to direct evidence
00:08:52.840 of bribery and extortion
00:08:54.920 that I've ever seen.
00:08:55.800 So let's talk about
00:08:58.200 the consequences for this
00:08:59.720 and the fact
00:09:00.780 that there has been
00:09:01.660 clearly a,
00:09:03.720 hey,
00:09:03.920 you can't go there
00:09:05.020 with the DOJ,
00:09:06.040 hey,
00:09:06.300 shut that down
00:09:07.000 with the DOJ.
00:09:08.500 What can Congress do?
00:09:10.020 And the real question
00:09:10.920 now has to be,
00:09:11.780 is it time
00:09:12.560 to look at impeachment
00:09:14.040 for Joe Biden?
00:09:16.000 Certainly on the House side
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00:10:37.060 we know
00:10:37.440 in this investigation
00:10:38.340 they're claiming,
00:10:39.460 hey,
00:10:39.900 this is the end of it
00:10:40.700 for Hunter, right?
00:10:41.600 It's not the end of it
00:10:42.640 for the president,
00:10:43.340 but at what point
00:10:44.820 does this turn
00:10:45.480 into a real issue,
00:10:46.680 Senator,
00:10:46.940 for the idea
00:10:47.800 of impeachment?
00:10:50.400 It is right now.
00:10:52.380 Look,
00:10:52.880 this WhatsApp
00:10:53.920 is direct evidence
00:10:56.560 of Joe Biden
00:10:58.100 abusing his government
00:11:00.660 power to enrich his son
00:11:02.620 and assuming 10%
00:11:05.660 for the big guy
00:11:06.420 to enrich himself.
00:11:07.860 Remember,
00:11:08.120 this WhatsApp says
00:11:09.260 we want to know.
00:11:11.180 This is not me,
00:11:12.020 Hunter,
00:11:12.440 just sort of
00:11:13.320 mooching off my dad.
00:11:15.080 It says,
00:11:15.720 Dad's sitting next to me.
00:11:17.720 And the stunning thing,
00:11:19.000 of course the House
00:11:19.980 needs to investigate it.
00:11:21.620 But the stunning thing
00:11:22.900 is what the IRS
00:11:23.680 whistleblower says
00:11:24.820 is DOJ,
00:11:29.700 Merrick Garland,
00:11:30.840 prevented
00:11:31.600 even an investigation
00:11:33.580 into this message.
00:11:35.320 Said,
00:11:35.540 nope,
00:11:35.880 you can't ask about it.
00:11:36.880 We don't want to know about it.
00:11:38.620 Nothing involving
00:11:39.600 Joe Biden
00:11:40.300 can be considered.
00:11:41.200 This is all about
00:11:42.140 poor Hunter Biden.
00:11:43.700 He's got a drug problem.
00:11:44.760 Let's make it all about him.
00:11:46.380 Let's not worry.
00:11:47.640 He doesn't have to pay his taxes.
00:11:48.980 His name is Biden.
00:11:50.000 Taxes are for little people.
00:11:51.340 Like Imelda Marcos said,
00:11:52.720 taxes are for little people.
00:11:54.660 That's true for Bidens, too.
00:11:56.220 It's true for,
00:11:57.500 in a different context,
00:11:59.100 Hillary, too.
00:11:59.940 Laws are for little people.
00:12:03.100 This WhatsApp
00:12:04.260 directly ties Joe Biden
00:12:07.280 to the millions of dollars
00:12:12.180 coming from Communist China.
00:12:13.540 Now,
00:12:14.380 it is possible
00:12:15.220 Hunter Biden was lying.
00:12:17.080 It's possible
00:12:17.540 Joe Biden wasn't next to him.
00:12:19.260 It's possible
00:12:19.840 Joe Biden
00:12:20.480 was not going to
00:12:22.320 inflict
00:12:24.180 official damage
00:12:25.680 on the Chinese
00:12:26.480 if they didn't pay
00:12:27.680 him and his son
00:12:28.580 millions of dollars.
00:12:29.300 That's possible.
00:12:30.380 But you know what?
00:12:31.180 We don't know
00:12:31.620 if it's true or not.
00:12:32.520 Why?
00:12:33.460 Because,
00:12:33.940 according to the whistleblower,
00:12:35.700 they didn't investigate
00:12:36.720 and they were prohibited
00:12:37.740 from investigating.
00:12:38.760 They were prevented
00:12:39.980 from even asking
00:12:41.200 the question.
00:12:42.260 Let me be clear.
00:12:43.760 This,
00:12:44.280 on the face of it,
00:12:45.080 is obstruction of justice
00:12:46.360 and if Merrick Garland
00:12:48.360 issued that order,
00:12:49.840 he is the one
00:12:50.900 blocking the investigation
00:12:52.440 and I think
00:12:53.500 there's real evidence
00:12:54.480 of Merrick Garland
00:12:55.580 being guilty
00:12:56.340 of obstruction of justice.
00:12:58.220 If,
00:12:58.780 now look,
00:12:59.200 these are allegations
00:12:59.940 at this point.
00:13:01.680 But you know what?
00:13:03.100 Look,
00:13:03.340 I serve in the Senate.
00:13:04.160 I'm on the Senate
00:13:04.620 Judiciary Committee.
00:13:05.460 if you had a single Democrat
00:13:07.900 who gave a flying flip
00:13:10.700 about the rule of law,
00:13:13.260 we would have a hearing
00:13:14.660 right now
00:13:15.620 with Merrick Garland
00:13:16.740 in front of us
00:13:17.400 under oath
00:13:18.260 asking about this WhatsApp
00:13:19.780 and we would ask
00:13:20.960 to see every document,
00:13:22.040 we'd ask to see
00:13:22.560 every email,
00:13:23.240 we'd ask to see
00:13:23.800 every communication
00:13:24.680 between DOJ
00:13:25.960 and the investigators.
00:13:27.040 We would put
00:13:27.760 the IRS whistleblowers
00:13:29.040 on the stand,
00:13:30.320 we'd put them
00:13:30.800 on the witness stand
00:13:32.000 under oath
00:13:33.020 to testify about it
00:13:34.220 and we would confront
00:13:35.200 Merrick Garland
00:13:36.240 with that.
00:13:36.760 Now,
00:13:37.420 the chances of the
00:13:38.580 Senate Judiciary Committee
00:13:39.520 doing that are zero
00:13:40.480 because Dick Durbin
00:13:41.500 doesn't care.
00:13:42.780 No Senate Democrat
00:13:44.000 cares.
00:13:45.760 But,
00:13:46.340 the House does.
00:13:48.020 So that is the only hope
00:13:49.540 for investigating this.
00:13:52.200 You know,
00:13:52.920 you look at just
00:13:53.760 this issue
00:13:54.480 and even
00:13:55.160 there is shocking news
00:13:56.720 that broke earlier today
00:13:57.940 that said
00:13:58.500 that apparently
00:13:59.480 the Navy detected
00:14:00.360 that the submarine
00:14:01.460 that's gone missing
00:14:02.480 may have imploded
00:14:03.460 on Sunday.
00:14:04.160 apparently the Biden
00:14:05.560 administration
00:14:06.120 slow played
00:14:07.020 that news
00:14:07.960 from the public
00:14:08.800 quite possibly
00:14:09.940 because they wanted
00:14:10.780 a distraction
00:14:11.540 from Hunter Biden
00:14:12.420 in the indictment.
00:14:13.740 This broke tonight.
00:14:15.920 I'm not surprised
00:14:17.060 by that at all
00:14:18.040 to be honest with you,
00:14:18.980 Senator,
00:14:19.220 if they in fact
00:14:20.020 did do that
00:14:20.620 because everything else
00:14:21.620 they do
00:14:22.020 seems to be done
00:14:23.600 in a way
00:14:24.440 that's all about
00:14:25.300 distractions,
00:14:26.740 all about
00:14:27.520 covering up,
00:14:28.800 and all about
00:14:29.860 making sure
00:14:30.440 that you're looking
00:14:31.060 one way
00:14:31.540 when they're doing
00:14:32.240 these shady deals
00:14:33.080 on the other hand.
00:14:34.620 Well,
00:14:34.780 and let me ask you,
00:14:35.500 how cruel
00:14:36.300 was it
00:14:37.840 if the Biden
00:14:38.500 administration
00:14:39.120 knew that the sub
00:14:40.420 had imploded
00:14:41.100 several days ago
00:14:42.480 and that the five
00:14:44.120 individuals in that sub
00:14:45.120 were dead,
00:14:45.780 how cruel was it
00:14:47.140 to the families
00:14:48.000 of those individuals
00:14:50.160 to let them
00:14:50.960 go through
00:14:51.520 the agony
00:14:52.220 of the last
00:14:52.940 several days?
00:14:54.340 Now,
00:14:54.880 maybe they conveyed
00:14:56.240 privately to the families,
00:14:57.620 but I doubt they did.
00:14:58.560 There's no indication
00:14:59.260 that they did.
00:15:00.680 I think you're right.
00:15:01.780 This is,
00:15:02.720 look,
00:15:03.060 for the Biden
00:15:03.660 White House,
00:15:04.580 everything,
00:15:05.420 everything,
00:15:06.080 everything is PR.
00:15:07.600 The Chinese spy balloon,
00:15:08.800 we talked about this
00:15:09.660 extensively in the podcast,
00:15:11.500 the only reason
00:15:12.860 anyone knows
00:15:13.740 about the Chinese
00:15:14.400 spy balloon
00:15:14.920 is because
00:15:16.840 a couple of guys
00:15:17.780 in Montana
00:15:18.420 looked up
00:15:19.100 and said,
00:15:19.440 holy crap,
00:15:20.280 what's that way
00:15:21.220 up in the sky?
00:15:22.220 And they took
00:15:22.760 pictures of the damn thing.
00:15:24.400 If it hadn't been
00:15:25.480 for a couple of guys
00:15:26.340 in Montana,
00:15:27.020 I promise you,
00:15:28.380 you and I
00:15:28.900 would not know
00:15:29.640 about the Chinese
00:15:30.320 spy balloon.
00:15:31.120 It would have
00:15:31.540 conducted espionage
00:15:32.660 over U.S.
00:15:33.240 military bases
00:15:34.000 and the Biden
00:15:35.240 administration
00:15:35.920 would have kept
00:15:36.620 it utterly
00:15:37.460 silent and secret.
00:15:39.660 Everything they do
00:15:41.040 is PR,
00:15:41.640 which is,
00:15:41.980 by the way,
00:15:42.960 why,
00:15:44.480 after they got
00:15:45.380 embarrassed
00:15:45.840 by letting the Chinese
00:15:46.860 conduct espionage
00:15:48.020 for a week
00:15:48.980 over the continental
00:15:49.620 United States,
00:15:50.400 they shot down,
00:15:51.160 I think it was,
00:15:51.560 four damn balloons,
00:15:53.240 including what appears
00:15:54.300 to be a experimental
00:15:56.640 balloon from a bunch
00:15:57.600 of high school kids
00:15:58.400 in Illinois
00:15:58.860 because they wanted
00:15:59.940 to prove they were
00:16:00.620 really tough,
00:16:01.760 it was all PR.
00:16:05.000 The same thing is true.
00:16:06.640 Like,
00:16:06.880 how do you not
00:16:08.060 let the world know
00:16:09.160 if you know
00:16:10.040 what happened
00:16:10.500 to the sub
00:16:11.060 three days ago?
00:16:12.560 Yeah,
00:16:12.800 on Sunday night,
00:16:13.780 to be clear.
00:16:14.540 And talk about
00:16:15.520 torture for the
00:16:16.460 family members.
00:16:17.500 That's cruel.
00:16:18.080 And all of those,
00:16:18.720 and not only that,
00:16:19.780 just the amount
00:16:20.320 of money that we spent,
00:16:21.680 tax dollars,
00:16:22.420 trying to find
00:16:23.800 this submarine
00:16:24.440 when in fact
00:16:25.460 they may have known
00:16:26.060 it was all done
00:16:26.720 on Sunday.
00:16:27.940 And they were all,
00:16:29.880 you know,
00:16:30.300 well,
00:16:30.600 the oxygen could be
00:16:31.640 lasting till X,
00:16:33.100 Y, and Z.
00:16:34.080 And oh,
00:16:34.520 by the way,
00:16:35.100 we have hunters
00:16:35.680 got indicted,
00:16:36.420 so this is a great
00:16:37.100 distraction.
00:16:37.760 And look,
00:16:38.420 these stories,
00:16:39.520 if you work in press,
00:16:41.120 and people at the
00:16:41.800 White House that work
00:16:42.460 in the White House
00:16:42.860 press office know this,
00:16:44.120 they captivate
00:16:45.380 and people stop
00:16:46.760 to listen and watch.
00:16:48.320 How could you not,
00:16:49.340 this submarine story,
00:16:50.800 like they're searching
00:16:51.920 for the Titanic,
00:16:53.080 you've got billionaires,
00:16:55.080 I mean,
00:16:55.400 it was,
00:16:56.840 every one of us
00:16:57.760 watch it,
00:16:58.200 and I have to admit,
00:16:59.660 when the news broke today
00:17:01.100 that it appeared to have been
00:17:02.460 an instantaneous implosion,
00:17:04.140 my reaction,
00:17:05.160 I was actually relieved.
00:17:07.240 I mean,
00:17:07.620 listen,
00:17:08.040 God,
00:17:08.640 it's a horrible tragedy.
00:17:10.460 You wouldn't want that accident
00:17:11.740 to happen to anyone.
00:17:13.320 But I gotta say,
00:17:14.640 I'm grateful
00:17:15.360 that if it was gonna happen,
00:17:17.380 that it would happen,
00:17:18.740 the information I've seen,
00:17:20.660 that it would happen
00:17:21.240 in less than a second,
00:17:22.280 that it would be instantaneous,
00:17:23.960 that you would be,
00:17:24.840 you're under two miles of water,
00:17:26.460 that you'd basically just be,
00:17:27.920 be obliterated in the flash
00:17:30.160 of an eye.
00:17:31.800 I gotta say,
00:17:32.660 Ben,
00:17:32.800 that is a much better way
00:17:34.260 to go
00:17:34.800 than locked
00:17:36.500 in a dark can
00:17:38.180 at the bottom
00:17:39.000 of the ocean
00:17:39.700 for three days
00:17:40.880 as your oxygen
00:17:42.100 is going away
00:17:43.160 and you're in utter terror.
00:17:45.580 Yeah.
00:17:46.020 I felt grateful.
00:17:48.400 Look,
00:17:48.680 nobody wants
00:17:49.580 any of that to happen,
00:17:51.120 but you'd much rather
00:17:51.900 it happen instantaneously
00:17:53.260 than through a long,
00:17:55.040 agonizing hell.
00:17:57.640 And so,
00:17:58.320 I guess that's
00:17:59.180 sort of good news
00:18:00.920 that it was at least
00:18:01.640 quick and painless
00:18:03.300 rather than
00:18:04.120 utter torture.
00:18:05.780 And yet,
00:18:06.460 the White House
00:18:07.220 didn't tell the truth
00:18:08.400 to the people involved
00:18:09.700 apparently knowing
00:18:10.560 that this probably happened
00:18:11.800 on Sunday.
00:18:12.780 The family had torture.
00:18:15.020 For political reasons.
00:18:16.260 If you're the child,
00:18:17.600 if you're the brother,
00:18:18.460 if you're the sister,
00:18:19.300 if you're the mom,
00:18:20.040 if you're the dad,
00:18:22.400 what's your reaction
00:18:23.520 right now?
00:18:24.500 Hey, wait,
00:18:24.960 you guys knew about this
00:18:26.140 days ago
00:18:26.860 and just didn't bother
00:18:28.120 to tell us
00:18:28.760 and told us to hold out hope
00:18:30.200 that they were still alive?
00:18:33.540 Yeah,
00:18:33.800 and the same news cycle,
00:18:35.020 and this goes back to
00:18:36.300 do you trust,
00:18:37.440 Senator,
00:18:38.240 anything out of
00:18:39.080 this administration
00:18:39.860 and not just
00:18:40.500 the White House directly,
00:18:41.800 you talk about this
00:18:43.480 quote,
00:18:43.920 new accounting error.
00:18:45.060 We talked about this
00:18:45.960 on Verdict several weeks ago
00:18:47.280 where the Pentagon
00:18:48.240 had an accounting error,
00:18:49.400 for example,
00:18:50.440 and we sent a bunch
00:18:51.360 more equipment,
00:18:52.940 military-grade equipment,
00:18:54.720 lethal equipment
00:18:55.980 to Ukraine.
00:18:57.260 Then they revised
00:18:58.580 that number yet again
00:18:59.800 and we sent billions
00:19:01.760 and billions
00:19:02.720 and billions
00:19:03.760 of dollars more
00:19:04.880 of lethal equipment
00:19:06.400 to Ukraine
00:19:06.980 than anyone knew about
00:19:08.320 and they're saying,
00:19:09.180 oh,
00:19:09.320 it was an accounting error
00:19:11.220 and that was coming
00:19:12.620 from the Pentagon.
00:19:13.640 Again,
00:19:13.960 if they want to just
00:19:14.760 do this war with Ukraine,
00:19:16.320 they're basically saying,
00:19:17.240 hey,
00:19:17.380 we're going to tell you
00:19:18.160 it's a certain amount
00:19:18.760 of money,
00:19:19.080 then we're going to say
00:19:19.620 we got it wrong,
00:19:20.440 then we're going to say
00:19:20.900 we got it wrong again,
00:19:21.720 which more than doubled
00:19:22.460 the number,
00:19:23.420 and now we're in this thing
00:19:24.720 for hundreds of billions
00:19:25.720 of dollars.
00:19:27.140 Look,
00:19:27.600 at this point,
00:19:28.440 my level of trust
00:19:29.700 in what the Biden
00:19:31.060 administration says
00:19:32.400 is abysmally low
00:19:34.780 because they've demonstrated
00:19:36.700 over and over again
00:19:37.860 they're willing to say
00:19:38.720 things that are false.
00:19:39.680 Listen,
00:19:40.260 Corrine Jean-Pierre
00:19:41.060 stands up at the
00:19:41.800 White House podium
00:19:42.500 day after day after day
00:19:44.220 and tells bald-faced lies.
00:19:46.260 She doesn't even pretend.
00:19:48.400 She lies on behalf
00:19:49.700 of the president
00:19:50.360 every day
00:19:51.440 and this is facilitated.
00:19:53.060 It's a point we talk about
00:19:53.880 a lot in the podcast.
00:19:55.180 It's facilitated.
00:19:56.340 I blame the media.
00:19:57.740 I blame CNN.
00:19:58.860 I blame MSNBC.
00:20:00.320 I blame ABC, CBS, NBC
00:20:02.620 because they don't cover
00:20:04.580 their lies.
00:20:05.240 They cover up for them
00:20:06.520 and so it facilitates
00:20:09.020 they are the enablers
00:20:11.060 of this dishonesty.
00:20:15.100 How big of an issue is it?
00:20:16.800 And we're talking about
00:20:17.700 $6.2 billion here, right?
00:20:19.580 The Pentagon made a stunning
00:20:20.860 $6.2 billion accounting error
00:20:22.740 and it provides extra aid,
00:20:26.080 lethal aid to Ukraine.
00:20:27.520 Like,
00:20:27.820 as a senator,
00:20:29.520 and you hear this,
00:20:31.260 does that make you
00:20:32.120 roll your eyes?
00:20:33.100 Does that make you angry?
00:20:34.720 What are other people
00:20:35.760 saying around you
00:20:36.580 on Capitol Hill
00:20:37.000 when you see something
00:20:37.820 like that?
00:20:38.720 Or do they just know
00:20:39.680 that they basically said,
00:20:40.560 hey, we're going to lie
00:20:41.360 to you guys on Capitol Hill.
00:20:42.840 We're going to do
00:20:43.400 what we want to do.
00:20:44.560 The Biden administration
00:20:45.200 wants to do.
00:20:45.760 We don't really give a crap
00:20:46.840 if you approved it or not
00:20:47.820 because we're going to
00:20:48.680 call it an accounting error.
00:20:50.660 I have no confidence
00:20:52.440 in what the Biden administration
00:20:54.080 says anymore
00:20:55.020 because they've demonstrated
00:20:56.800 that they are willing
00:20:58.380 to cover up,
00:20:59.300 that they are willing
00:21:00.460 to lie.
00:21:01.280 And let's go back
00:21:02.280 to what these whistleblowers
00:21:03.640 have testified.
00:21:05.300 These whistleblowers
00:21:06.240 have testified
00:21:06.840 that the Department of Justice
00:21:08.260 actively interfered
00:21:09.600 in the investigation
00:21:10.360 to prevent any investigation
00:21:12.980 of Joe Biden's
00:21:14.480 personal corruption.
00:21:16.100 Look,
00:21:16.460 as we talked about
00:21:17.260 on the podcast last week,
00:21:18.500 I had the deputy director
00:21:19.360 of the FBI.
00:21:20.280 I asked him about
00:21:21.200 the FD-1023.
00:21:22.500 He stonewalled.
00:21:23.280 I asked him about
00:21:23.940 the 17 voice recordings.
00:21:25.560 He stonewalled.
00:21:26.500 the degree to which
00:21:28.100 this administration
00:21:29.640 has politicized
00:21:31.260 the entirety of government.
00:21:33.260 And they rationalize it.
00:21:34.820 They rationalize it
00:21:36.260 because they believe
00:21:37.360 Donald Trump is evil.
00:21:39.480 And so everything
00:21:40.380 is justified
00:21:41.220 in pursuit
00:21:42.660 of fighting Donald Trump.
00:21:44.680 But it is
00:21:46.000 ripping to shreds
00:21:48.500 the integrity
00:21:49.760 of the institutions
00:21:50.700 of our government.
00:21:51.600 That is very,
00:21:52.780 very dangerous.
00:21:53.280 Let me ask you
00:21:55.140 also about
00:21:56.000 moving forward here.
00:21:57.260 There's so many people
00:21:58.140 that believe
00:21:58.860 that the Hunter Biden
00:22:00.220 issue is over.
00:22:01.500 So therefore,
00:22:02.120 apparently all of this
00:22:03.400 is over, right?
00:22:05.240 That's not true.
00:22:06.480 The whistleblowers
00:22:07.240 keep coming forward
00:22:08.240 and they keep giving out
00:22:09.280 more and more
00:22:09.820 damning details
00:22:10.940 just like what you mentioned
00:22:12.160 and what we're talking
00:22:12.760 about here tonight.
00:22:13.720 But moving forward,
00:22:15.700 what is the best
00:22:17.160 point of attack
00:22:20.180 for Congress
00:22:22.040 and are there
00:22:23.680 any investigations
00:22:25.200 into the president
00:22:26.740 since this
00:22:27.980 apparently has been
00:22:29.020 wrapped up
00:22:29.620 with Hunter Biden?
00:22:30.660 Is there any
00:22:31.220 active investigations
00:22:32.140 that we know of
00:22:33.180 for him
00:22:33.800 or is this just
00:22:34.620 going to be
00:22:35.080 Congress exposing it
00:22:36.280 and that's going
00:22:36.840 to be it?
00:22:38.380 Well,
00:22:39.140 there is ostensibly
00:22:40.800 a special counsel
00:22:42.080 investigating
00:22:43.580 Joe Biden's
00:22:44.840 possession
00:22:45.780 of classified documents.
00:22:46.980 Remember Robert Herr?
00:22:48.120 He was announced.
00:22:48.740 We did a podcast
00:22:49.460 about him
00:22:50.040 and then apparently
00:22:50.980 they put the special
00:22:51.920 counsel and witness
00:22:52.700 protection
00:22:53.180 because he's
00:22:54.520 disappeared from sight.
00:22:56.000 I don't know
00:22:56.620 what he's doing.
00:22:57.640 We talked about
00:22:59.020 when he was appointed
00:22:59.940 and remember
00:23:01.180 this is someone
00:23:01.840 who had worked
00:23:02.600 for Rod Rosenstein
00:23:03.820 in the Department
00:23:05.340 of Justice
00:23:05.940 when you had
00:23:07.180 the deep state
00:23:07.980 waging war
00:23:09.100 against Donald Trump.
00:23:10.120 I said,
00:23:11.020 listen,
00:23:11.340 the tell
00:23:11.900 as to whether
00:23:13.340 Mr. Herr
00:23:15.040 will be a real
00:23:15.920 prosecutor or not
00:23:17.020 is whether he
00:23:17.980 is willing
00:23:18.460 to investigate
00:23:19.560 the evidence
00:23:21.800 of corruption
00:23:22.940 of the family
00:23:23.980 business
00:23:24.540 of Hunter Biden
00:23:25.720 selling access
00:23:26.500 and Joe Biden
00:23:27.320 profiting from it.
00:23:28.500 Now,
00:23:28.840 we know
00:23:29.360 that the rest
00:23:30.060 of justice,
00:23:30.740 at least according
00:23:31.300 to these whistleblowers,
00:23:32.140 and to be clear,
00:23:32.780 I want to underscore
00:23:33.360 this again,
00:23:34.600 we don't know
00:23:35.500 that what the whistleblowers
00:23:36.520 are saying
00:23:37.000 is accurate.
00:23:38.160 There's a lot of reason
00:23:39.120 to think it's accurate.
00:23:40.160 I mean,
00:23:40.360 these are senior
00:23:41.320 IRS investigators
00:23:42.680 who have no reason
00:23:44.000 to lie,
00:23:45.140 who are not,
00:23:46.180 by any indication,
00:23:47.440 partisan Republicans,
00:23:48.840 but there should be
00:23:52.620 a real and public
00:23:53.640 investigation,
00:23:54.660 and the thing
00:23:55.400 that is shocking
00:23:56.320 is at least to date,
00:23:58.860 Joe Biden
00:23:59.360 hasn't been made
00:24:00.040 to answer questions
00:24:00.760 on this,
00:24:01.560 Hunter Biden
00:24:02.040 hasn't been made
00:24:02.580 to answer questions
00:24:03.260 on this,
00:24:04.080 Merrick Garland
00:24:04.680 hasn't been made
00:24:05.240 to answer questions
00:24:05.980 on this,
00:24:06.840 Chris Wray
00:24:07.280 hasn't been made
00:24:07.880 to answer questions
00:24:08.700 on this,
00:24:10.300 this WhatsApp
00:24:13.900 communication
00:24:15.040 is a smoking gun.
00:24:19.740 This is,
00:24:20.700 if they're making
00:24:21.680 a movie
00:24:22.340 about all
00:24:23.700 the president's men,
00:24:24.640 if they're making
00:24:25.100 a movie about Watergate,
00:24:27.040 this is what
00:24:28.800 Deep Throat,
00:24:29.820 standing in the
00:24:30.520 parking garage
00:24:31.260 in a trench coat,
00:24:32.660 hands over,
00:24:34.060 here's the evidence.
00:24:34.980 To be clear,
00:24:36.580 and I just want
00:24:37.160 to make sure
00:24:37.560 I clarify this,
00:24:38.420 you believe it is
00:24:39.420 time for the
00:24:40.680 House side
00:24:41.280 to look at impeachment
00:24:42.420 because of what
00:24:43.380 we're now seeing?
00:24:44.480 Absolutely,
00:24:45.280 yes.
00:24:45.620 If this is true
00:24:46.640 on the face of it,
00:24:48.040 Joe Biden
00:24:48.540 should be impeached.
00:24:50.200 You can't corruptly
00:24:52.080 take bribes
00:24:53.100 from foreign nationals.
00:24:54.680 You can't do it
00:24:55.380 as vice president,
00:24:56.320 you can't do it
00:24:57.100 as president,
00:24:57.660 and if you are
00:24:58.520 profiting to the tunes
00:24:59.760 of millions of dollars
00:25:01.480 from foreign nationals,
00:25:04.040 you should be impeached,
00:25:05.340 you should be prosecuted,
00:25:06.760 you should go to jail.
00:25:08.060 Now,
00:25:08.820 to develop that case,
00:25:11.600 the House will have
00:25:12.360 to continue
00:25:13.000 developing the evidence.
00:25:14.600 I don't believe
00:25:17.180 they have the votes
00:25:18.160 tomorrow
00:25:18.940 to impeach Joe Biden.
00:25:21.300 I suspect
00:25:21.940 the number of Democrats
00:25:23.460 who would vote
00:25:24.100 to impeach Biden
00:25:25.020 is zero
00:25:25.840 because they don't
00:25:26.820 care about the facts,
00:25:28.140 which means
00:25:29.220 they've got to develop
00:25:30.360 a factual predicate
00:25:31.900 so compelling
00:25:33.060 that they can actually
00:25:35.100 get a majority
00:25:35.800 in the House.
00:25:36.380 So I don't know
00:25:37.120 that they're there yet,
00:25:39.160 but this investigation
00:25:42.080 needs to be redoubled
00:25:43.620 and the facts
00:25:44.320 need to be laid out
00:25:45.300 before the American people
00:25:47.120 because right now,
00:25:48.660 listen,
00:25:49.720 these whistleblowers
00:25:51.060 have elevated
00:25:52.760 the gravity
00:25:53.440 of the charges
00:25:54.160 against Joe Biden
00:25:55.260 on order of magnitude.
00:25:57.920 Yeah,
00:25:58.040 and you hope
00:25:58.560 the big backfire
00:25:59.400 is that maybe
00:26:00.500 it is that,
00:26:01.380 yeah,
00:26:01.620 Hunter Biden
00:26:02.140 got off,
00:26:03.100 but the whistleblowers
00:26:04.080 have become so angry
00:26:05.280 over what they just witnessed
00:26:06.960 that it may be
00:26:08.260 even more damning
00:26:09.500 for the presidency,
00:26:10.700 which is what really matters,
00:26:12.360 is the corruption
00:26:13.060 with the President
00:26:13.580 of the United States
00:26:14.140 of America.
00:26:14.980 I want to also ask you,
00:26:16.220 Senator,
00:26:16.440 about a very interesting
00:26:18.040 witness you had
00:26:19.280 before Congress,
00:26:20.520 Riley Gades.
00:26:21.200 He's a famous swimmer
00:26:22.340 who is standing up
00:26:23.620 for women's sports
00:26:24.620 and saying no to men
00:26:26.040 participating in women's sports
00:26:28.240 and talking about
00:26:28.680 how it's destroying
00:26:29.380 women's sports.
00:26:30.680 But first,
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00:26:33.180 Are you getting
00:26:33.900 a little older
00:26:34.540 and you feel like
00:26:35.660 weakness and complacency
00:26:37.540 is starting to set in?
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00:26:40.040 you've lost that edge,
00:26:41.400 your strength and vitality,
00:26:42.780 and you don't want
00:26:43.920 to give in.
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00:26:46.040 Did you know
00:26:46.420 that testosterone levels
00:26:47.600 have actually declined
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00:26:50.960 Historic lows
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00:28:00.360 Senator,
00:28:00.980 there was a really
00:28:01.820 interesting hearing
00:28:03.100 and I want to play
00:28:04.220 part of this,
00:28:05.040 but before we do that,
00:28:06.620 I just want you
00:28:07.580 to set the stage here.
00:28:08.740 There's been a massive
00:28:09.640 debate in this country
00:28:10.680 about protecting
00:28:12.200 women's sports.
00:28:13.520 I've been screaming
00:28:15.040 for the feminists
00:28:15.980 to get their act together
00:28:17.320 and defend women's sports.
00:28:18.640 They're being taken over
00:28:19.500 by men acting like women.
00:28:21.200 There are differences
00:28:22.860 clearly between
00:28:23.900 physical,
00:28:24.600 biological men
00:28:25.720 and women.
00:28:27.560 We know that.
00:28:29.000 And yet,
00:28:29.700 you had witnesses
00:28:30.740 in front of you
00:28:31.620 that refused
00:28:32.540 to answer
00:28:33.620 basic questions
00:28:35.260 about the difference
00:28:36.920 between men
00:28:38.120 and women.
00:28:38.860 And one of those,
00:28:39.720 I want to play this
00:28:40.540 real quick.
00:28:41.420 Take a listen
00:28:41.980 for everybody else.
00:28:43.580 Now,
00:28:44.200 let me ask you,
00:28:44.840 as someone who's
00:28:45.540 competed at the elite level,
00:28:47.260 in your experience,
00:28:50.660 is there a difference
00:28:52.540 between women and men?
00:28:53.940 Of course.
00:28:55.120 I think we learned
00:28:56.660 this at a very young age
00:28:57.740 watching even 12
00:28:58.660 and unders play.
00:29:00.000 Going through puberty
00:29:01.220 causes irreversible
00:29:02.760 advantage
00:29:04.160 that no matter
00:29:05.220 the training,
00:29:05.860 no matter the diet,
00:29:06.700 no matter any
00:29:07.660 alterable change
00:29:09.780 you can make
00:29:10.420 will overcome
00:29:11.380 that male advantage.
00:29:12.500 I just want to
00:29:14.080 stop there
00:29:14.540 because that's
00:29:15.080 such a basic thing
00:29:16.360 that was accepted
00:29:17.580 in society,
00:29:18.500 yet the left
00:29:19.940 is refusing
00:29:20.720 to accept this
00:29:21.940 any longer
00:29:22.980 and it's lunacy.
00:29:25.260 Well,
00:29:25.820 that's exactly right
00:29:26.740 and by the way,
00:29:27.560 the person I'm talking
00:29:28.480 with at a Senate
00:29:29.140 Judiciary Committee
00:29:29.960 hearing
00:29:30.360 is Riley Gaines.
00:29:31.900 Riley Gaines
00:29:32.580 was an incredibly
00:29:34.360 successful swimmer,
00:29:35.760 female swimmer,
00:29:36.640 at the University
00:29:37.560 of Kentucky
00:29:38.100 and she ended up
00:29:39.900 competing
00:29:40.780 and tying
00:29:41.840 with Leah Thomas.
00:29:43.260 Leah Thomas
00:29:43.780 is the biological male
00:29:45.800 who decided
00:29:47.180 that he was a she
00:29:48.220 and competed
00:29:49.460 as a woman
00:29:50.040 and Leah Thomas,
00:29:52.160 you know,
00:29:52.620 we've all seen
00:29:53.260 the picture
00:29:53.740 where Leah Thomas
00:29:54.900 is a six foot four,
00:29:57.140 has the arms
00:29:58.160 and chest
00:29:58.700 and body of a man
00:29:59.820 and when the two
00:30:02.460 of them tied,
00:30:04.760 the NCAA
00:30:05.380 forced Leah Thomas
00:30:07.160 to get the trophy
00:30:08.560 and not Riley Gaines
00:30:10.480 because it wasn't
00:30:11.660 complicated
00:30:12.320 because of politics,
00:30:14.220 the fact that
00:30:14.900 she was a woman
00:30:15.620 means,
00:30:16.340 sorry,
00:30:17.180 you don't get
00:30:17.660 the trophy
00:30:18.120 in women's sports
00:30:19.380 even though
00:30:19.980 she tied
00:30:21.300 someone who was
00:30:23.120 a biological male
00:30:24.020 and she,
00:30:24.880 I gotta say,
00:30:26.160 Riley Gaines,
00:30:27.080 she is a young woman
00:30:28.300 in her early 20s,
00:30:30.380 she has shown
00:30:32.900 absolute heroism.
00:30:35.460 She has been
00:30:36.020 outspoken saying
00:30:37.160 this isn't fair,
00:30:38.580 this isn't right,
00:30:39.400 I worked,
00:30:40.740 I worked,
00:30:41.440 I trained
00:30:42.180 for hours
00:30:43.000 and hours
00:30:43.520 and hours,
00:30:44.020 I got up
00:30:44.500 early in the morning,
00:30:45.420 I swam
00:30:45.860 and I swam
00:30:46.320 and I swam.
00:30:47.240 She also described
00:30:48.320 how this insane
00:30:50.480 woke rules
00:30:52.000 that she was forced
00:30:53.560 at the swim meets
00:30:54.460 to share the same
00:30:56.360 locker room
00:30:57.140 with Leah Thomas
00:30:58.820 to undress nude
00:31:01.340 and she said
00:31:01.760 Leah Thomas
00:31:02.260 has full genitals
00:31:03.700 of a man,
00:31:04.240 so she's sitting
00:31:05.540 there with
00:31:06.100 a human being
00:31:08.740 with male genitals
00:31:09.560 right next to her
00:31:10.240 and she was forced
00:31:10.980 to undress
00:31:11.880 next to her
00:31:12.420 next to Leah Thomas
00:31:14.300 and to be naked
00:31:15.500 and she said
00:31:16.460 she was horrified
00:31:18.400 and many of the other
00:31:19.840 women were too
00:31:20.940 but this is
00:31:22.640 the bizarre insanity
00:31:23.980 we live with
00:31:24.920 that we're telling
00:31:26.160 an 18,
00:31:26.920 19 year old girl
00:31:27.920 sorry you gotta
00:31:28.580 share a locker room
00:31:29.540 with a man
00:31:30.460 and see the full
00:31:33.220 equipment right next
00:31:34.020 to you
00:31:34.200 and get naked
00:31:34.720 next to them
00:31:35.320 and just suck it up
00:31:36.440 because our left-wing
00:31:37.740 politics demand
00:31:38.620 that of you.
00:31:39.600 And who wants this
00:31:40.520 for their daughter,
00:31:41.360 right?
00:31:41.800 And one of the things
00:31:42.520 about these hearings
00:31:43.360 And by the way
00:31:43.840 they're doing that
00:31:44.500 to 13 year olds too
00:31:46.480 not even just college kids
00:31:47.860 I mean they're doing it
00:31:49.160 to young kids too.
00:31:51.500 Not only are they doing it
00:31:52.520 to young kids
00:31:53.080 but at these hearings
00:31:54.020 there's an interesting
00:31:55.200 dynamic
00:31:55.700 because usually
00:31:56.660 there's witnesses
00:31:57.560 that come
00:31:58.100 you guys have witnesses
00:31:59.300 on the right
00:32:00.520 Republicans
00:32:01.120 that you call
00:32:02.320 Democrats call
00:32:03.260 witnesses as well
00:32:04.260 and you asked
00:32:05.740 a very simple question
00:32:07.220 to an LGBTQ activist
00:32:09.380 by the name of
00:32:10.100 Kelly Robinson
00:32:10.880 and this was the
00:32:12.340 question you asked
00:32:13.460 and it shows you
00:32:15.700 just how psychotic
00:32:17.220 the left has become
00:32:18.720 over this issue
00:32:19.680 they can't even answer
00:32:21.140 this basic question
00:32:23.660 that you asked.
00:32:25.680 Ms. Robinson
00:32:26.680 do you agree with
00:32:27.500 Ms. Gaines
00:32:27.960 that there's a difference
00:32:28.660 between women and men?
00:32:30.160 If the question is
00:32:31.300 about trans women
00:32:32.740 I'm just asking
00:32:33.620 is there a difference
00:32:34.200 between women and men?
00:32:35.100 What I can say
00:32:35.800 is that the NCAA
00:32:36.620 has rules in place
00:32:37.900 they've had rules in place
00:32:38.860 for the last decade
00:32:39.720 and when this competition
00:32:40.680 happened
00:32:41.000 I'm going to try again
00:32:41.780 the rules were clear
00:32:42.320 Do you believe
00:32:42.920 there's a difference
00:32:43.540 between women and men?
00:32:44.600 It's a yes no question
00:32:45.700 do you believe
00:32:46.840 there's a difference?
00:32:47.480 I think that we're
00:32:48.120 talking about this case
00:32:49.160 with the NCAA
00:32:49.640 No I'm asking a question
00:32:50.800 do you believe
00:32:51.620 there's a difference
00:32:52.600 between women and men?
00:32:53.500 Most people could answer
00:32:54.480 this very simply
00:32:55.240 I'm curious
00:32:56.600 if you're willing
00:32:57.360 to do so
00:32:57.920 Oh absolutely
00:32:58.740 I'm just putting
00:32:59.320 into the context
00:33:00.140 of the conversation
00:33:00.860 that we're having
00:33:01.740 I think that there
00:33:02.640 are definitions
00:33:03.140 related to sex
00:33:04.080 So I'm trying
00:33:05.520 to get a yes or no
00:33:06.220 I'm not trying
00:33:06.680 to get the speech
00:33:07.580 Is there a difference
00:33:09.720 between women and men?
00:33:11.220 I think that there
00:33:11.760 are definitions
00:33:12.280 for biological sex
00:33:13.440 So you're not
00:33:13.960 answering that
00:33:14.500 Let me ask you
00:33:15.040 this question then
00:33:15.840 Why do women's
00:33:18.120 sports exist?
00:33:20.080 If you can't define
00:33:21.160 a difference
00:33:21.480 between women and men
00:33:22.240 why not abolish
00:33:23.080 women's sports
00:33:23.700 and just tell
00:33:24.380 little girls
00:33:24.940 to swim
00:33:25.400 with little boys
00:33:26.020 and see who wins?
00:33:27.040 Oh I'm simply
00:33:27.540 saying that
00:33:28.320 that sex
00:33:29.460 is different
00:33:29.920 than gender
00:33:30.700 And I do believe
00:33:31.520 that women's sports
00:33:32.420 have a great value
00:33:33.360 I mean Senator
00:33:33.940 I'll tell you right now
00:33:34.840 Please answer
00:33:35.960 the question
00:33:36.380 I'm asking you
00:33:37.180 Absolutely
00:33:37.600 Why do women's
00:33:39.080 sports exist?
00:33:40.360 I think that there
00:33:40.840 are so many
00:33:41.320 positive benefits
00:33:42.100 to sports
00:33:42.860 But why have
00:33:43.520 a separate category
00:33:44.380 for women?
00:33:45.220 If there's no
00:33:46.080 difference between
00:33:46.580 women and men
00:33:47.100 why to have
00:33:47.620 women's sports?
00:33:49.220 I'm saying that
00:33:49.920 there's a difference
00:33:50.520 between sex
00:33:51.340 and gender
00:33:52.020 and that the NCAA
00:33:53.060 has rules in place
00:33:54.320 which they have
00:33:54.940 for the last decade
00:33:55.800 Mr. Kerrman
00:33:56.160 I would like to
00:33:57.020 enter into the record
00:33:57.820 an article
00:33:58.700 from Duke Law
00:34:00.300 called
00:34:01.220 Comparing Athletic
00:34:02.080 Performances
00:34:02.680 for the Best Elite
00:34:03.540 Women to Boys
00:34:04.180 and Men
00:34:04.600 By the way Senator
00:34:05.480 I was going to
00:34:06.900 cut it there
00:34:07.360 but I want you
00:34:07.980 to explain this
00:34:08.660 part about Duke Law
00:34:09.540 where you were
00:34:10.180 going here
00:34:10.680 and also the fact
00:34:12.220 that Kelly Robinson
00:34:13.080 couldn't answer
00:34:14.520 a basic damn
00:34:15.720 question
00:34:16.220 is there a difference
00:34:17.380 between men and women
00:34:18.280 because she knows
00:34:19.560 that if she answers
00:34:20.920 that question
00:34:21.600 honestly
00:34:22.140 the entire joke
00:34:24.120 the ruse
00:34:24.840 this absurdity
00:34:26.840 is done with
00:34:28.740 Well the current
00:34:31.520 delusion of the left
00:34:33.320 is that the answer
00:34:34.020 to that question
00:34:34.620 is no
00:34:35.020 I suspect she believes
00:34:37.660 the answer is no
00:34:38.500 because they've embraced
00:34:39.700 an ideology
00:34:40.460 that says there's no
00:34:42.220 difference between
00:34:42.700 women and men
00:34:43.260 that you can be
00:34:44.640 a man, a woman, a man
00:34:45.600 a woman, a man, a woman
00:34:46.500 all on the same day
00:34:48.360 as you change your mind
00:34:49.960 at that moment
00:34:50.520 that there are
00:34:51.380 absolutely no
00:34:52.100 differences
00:34:52.500 and look
00:34:53.340 I gotta assume
00:34:54.280 somewhere in the
00:34:55.000 back of her mind
00:34:55.700 she's like
00:34:56.160 well wait a second
00:34:57.800 like if you grab
00:35:00.120 a woman and grab
00:35:00.820 a man and say
00:35:01.420 let's arm wrestle
00:35:02.140 we know what the
00:35:04.680 result is likely
00:35:05.780 to be
00:35:06.100 now that doesn't
00:35:07.000 mean is there
00:35:07.540 some giant woman
00:35:08.540 who could beat
00:35:09.020 some wimpy man
00:35:09.860 at arm wrestling
00:35:10.340 sure
00:35:10.700 but the question
00:35:12.620 is are there
00:35:13.380 basic differences
00:35:14.720 between the gender
00:35:15.560 from literally
00:35:17.080 the dawn of humanity
00:35:18.280 people could answer
00:35:19.200 that question
00:35:19.960 but her ideology
00:35:21.880 won't let her
00:35:22.560 and I think the reason
00:35:23.600 that she refuses
00:35:24.460 to answer the question
00:35:25.640 is what she wants
00:35:27.500 to say
00:35:28.040 what she wants
00:35:28.840 to scream
00:35:29.520 is no
00:35:30.720 no
00:35:31.540 no
00:35:32.280 there is no
00:35:33.260 difference
00:35:33.840 but I think
00:35:35.420 she realizes
00:35:36.260 that that is
00:35:37.080 so nutty
00:35:38.000 that anyone
00:35:39.620 who lives
00:35:40.400 on planet earth
00:35:41.300 that is not
00:35:41.860 a wild eyed
00:35:42.620 leftist ideologue
00:35:43.500 is like
00:35:43.940 what's wrong
00:35:45.160 with you
00:35:45.420 what do you mean
00:35:46.020 there's no difference
00:35:46.540 between women and men
00:35:47.200 and and
00:35:48.420 the second question
00:35:50.400 that I got to
00:35:51.220 is why have
00:35:53.320 women's sports
00:35:54.140 why have a separate
00:35:56.080 why have girls sports
00:35:57.440 what why have girls
00:35:59.000 soccer
00:35:59.780 why have girls
00:36:01.300 softball
00:36:02.100 why have girls
00:36:03.600 basketball
00:36:04.080 why does the
00:36:05.540 WNBA exist
00:36:07.140 look Brittany
00:36:07.680 got Greiner
00:36:08.260 she was held
00:36:09.700 in Russia
00:36:10.080 she came back
00:36:10.920 she's a WNBA star
00:36:12.300 why have a WNBA
00:36:13.420 why not just tell
00:36:14.160 Brittany got Greiner
00:36:14.960 you want to play
00:36:15.940 basketball
00:36:16.400 go out for the
00:36:17.040 NBA
00:36:17.320 let's let's see
00:36:18.220 how you do
00:36:18.680 against LeBron
00:36:19.320 James
00:36:19.680 the answer
00:36:20.980 obviously
00:36:22.840 is at least
00:36:23.500 right now
00:36:24.180 I'm not aware
00:36:24.880 of any woman
00:36:25.540 on planet earth
00:36:26.380 who has the
00:36:27.680 skills to compete
00:36:28.460 in the NBA
00:36:28.940 maybe that'll
00:36:29.540 happen
00:36:29.820 but the reason
00:36:32.280 we have a WNBA
00:36:33.240 is the same
00:36:33.940 reason we have
00:36:34.840 girls sixth grade
00:36:36.520 soccer
00:36:37.020 because it's
00:36:38.640 really valuable
00:36:39.900 for girls and
00:36:41.360 women to be able
00:36:42.000 to compete
00:36:42.440 and have the
00:36:42.880 benefits of sports
00:36:43.980 I say this
00:36:44.940 as the father
00:36:45.440 of daughters
00:36:46.040 you know
00:36:47.020 my girls
00:36:47.840 would be
00:36:48.480 thoroughly
00:36:49.260 discouraged
00:36:50.000 if they were
00:36:51.160 having to play
00:36:51.880 sports against
00:36:52.700 boys that were
00:36:53.980 larger and
00:36:54.800 stronger and
00:36:55.540 that had
00:36:55.860 biological
00:36:56.520 advantages
00:36:57.180 that's what
00:36:57.920 Riley Gaines
00:36:58.560 testified to
00:36:59.400 and go ahead
00:37:01.660 and play the
00:37:02.080 rest of it
00:37:02.520 because this
00:37:03.080 Duke Law
00:37:03.720 study illustrates
00:37:05.620 just how
00:37:06.580 compellingly
00:37:07.820 the difference
00:37:09.640 is between
00:37:10.520 the physiology
00:37:11.220 of men
00:37:12.560 and women
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00:37:19.460 Riley and just
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00:38:56.900 this is you basically
00:38:59.160 introducing Riley
00:39:00.580 Gaines to you know
00:39:02.060 not just a lot of
00:39:03.280 people in the world
00:39:03.760 know but certainly to
00:39:04.800 Congress and here's
00:39:05.940 what you had to say
00:39:06.740 about her at the
00:39:07.960 beginning
00:39:08.340 Gaines I want to
00:39:10.320 thank you for your
00:39:11.060 courage you are
00:39:13.000 relatively young but
00:39:15.180 you have demonstrated
00:39:16.280 incredible courage and
00:39:19.580 because you have
00:39:20.520 dared to speak up you
00:39:22.820 have been demonized you
00:39:24.080 have been vilified I
00:39:26.620 saw when you were
00:39:27.480 attacked by a leftist
00:39:29.020 mob at San Francisco
00:39:30.260 State University for
00:39:32.500 daring to speak up you
00:39:35.120 had an incredible
00:39:36.000 record as a swimmer at
00:39:37.360 the University of
00:39:37.880 Kentucky you were a
00:39:38.680 two-time NCAA All
00:39:39.980 American you were a
00:39:40.880 five-time SEC
00:39:41.820 champion you were at
00:39:43.020 you're an SEC record
00:39:44.080 record holder and a
00:39:45.500 two-time Olympic trial
00:39:46.740 qualifier but yet on
00:39:49.640 March 27th 2022
00:39:51.220 something changed what
00:39:54.220 happened on March
00:39:55.000 22nd on March 17th
00:39:56.840 2022 that's when
00:39:59.140 Thomas and I race in
00:40:00.620 the 200 freestyle and
00:40:02.120 again resulted in a
00:40:03.520 tie and so you tied
00:40:07.060 what what was the
00:40:07.780 consequence of time
00:40:08.740 we went behind the
00:40:10.540 awards podium where
00:40:11.420 typically you're handed
00:40:12.240 your trophy you're
00:40:13.040 marched out you're
00:40:14.020 named an All-American
00:40:14.760 and so we go back
00:40:16.260 there and the official
00:40:17.260 looks at both Thomas
00:40:18.160 and myself and says
00:40:19.040 great job but you guys
00:40:20.280 tied and we only have
00:40:21.640 one trophy therefore
00:40:23.080 we're giving this trophy
00:40:23.940 to Leah and I
00:40:25.400 question this and I
00:40:26.180 say why and at first I
00:40:29.080 shortened it in my
00:40:30.040 testimony but really
00:40:30.860 he stumbled on his
00:40:31.720 words he didn't know
00:40:32.500 how to answer this and
00:40:33.980 at first he's uh well
00:40:36.760 we're just doing this
00:40:37.540 in chronological order
00:40:38.540 to which I further
00:40:40.000 press and I said okay
00:40:41.060 well what are you being
00:40:41.800 chronological about
00:40:42.700 because we tied and if
00:40:44.620 we're doing this off
00:40:45.320 alphabetical order G
00:40:46.460 comes before T so what
00:40:47.660 are you being
00:40:47.940 chronological about to
00:40:50.000 which this wasn't a
00:40:50.880 script they had
00:40:51.560 prepared for him and
00:40:53.220 he actually appreciated
00:40:54.680 his honesty he did say
00:40:55.740 we have to give the
00:40:57.120 trophy for Leah because
00:40:58.200 we Leah has to have it
00:40:59.760 for pictures they've
00:41:00.720 they've made that
00:41:01.340 clear Leah has to have
00:41:02.320 the trophy for pictures
00:41:03.280 you can pose with this
00:41:04.840 trophy but you have to
00:41:06.460 give yours back you have
00:41:08.180 to go home empty-handed
00:41:09.180 Leah Thomas takes the
00:41:10.640 trophy home end of story
00:41:11.820 now let me ask you
00:41:13.200 someone who's competed at
00:41:14.600 the elite level in your
00:41:17.100 experience is is there a
00:41:19.560 difference between women
00:41:20.480 and men of course I think
00:41:23.180 we learn this at a very
00:41:24.580 young age watching even
00:41:25.800 12 and unders play going
00:41:27.860 through puberty causes
00:41:29.360 irreversible advantage that
00:41:32.220 no matter the training no
00:41:33.340 matter the diet no matter
00:41:34.440 any alterable change you
00:41:37.320 can make will overcome that
00:41:39.280 male advantage especially in
00:41:41.500 sports like swimming where
00:41:42.680 lung capacity matters so
00:41:44.460 much even something as silly
00:41:47.100 as throat size men have on
00:41:48.600 average a 40 percent larger
00:41:49.740 throat which sounds like it's
00:41:51.300 nothing but when you're
00:41:52.480 grasping for air that 40
00:41:54.140 percent larger throat makes a
00:41:55.320 huge difference in athletic
00:41:56.760 success not to mention height
00:41:58.060 you guys know the
00:41:59.700 differences not only did I
00:42:03.100 think that part that Riley
00:42:05.020 was explaining and just how
00:42:06.900 unfairly she was treated
00:42:08.560 behind that stage was just
00:42:11.480 horrific if you have
00:42:12.800 children you can't I can't
00:42:14.300 imagine watching your
00:42:15.480 daughter be treated this way
00:42:17.440 but then senator you also
00:42:18.980 went to something else and you
00:42:20.560 said you want to put into the
00:42:21.620 record and it's a study from
00:42:23.300 Duke University and I want
00:42:24.480 people to hear what you said
00:42:25.640 and I would like to enter
00:42:28.220 the record an article from
00:42:30.140 Duke Duke law called comparing
00:42:32.620 athletic performances for the
00:42:34.060 best elite women to boys and
00:42:35.360 men and it goes through
00:42:37.120 examining in 2017 the top
00:42:39.240 records for women in the
00:42:40.260 world in various track and
00:42:42.120 field events so for example in
00:42:43.620 the hundred meter the top
00:42:44.720 record for women in the world
00:42:46.000 was 10.71 seconds now that
00:42:49.180 record for the number one woman
00:42:50.480 in the world in 2017 was in the
00:42:53.160 year 2017 broken by 124 boys
00:42:59.380 under 18 in that same year the
00:43:02.940 record for the number one
00:43:04.220 competing woman in in the
00:43:05.600 hundred yard hundred meter dash in
00:43:07.360 the world was broken by a total of
00:43:09.280 2474 men if the radical democrat
00:43:14.700 agenda to destroy girls sports and
00:43:16.760 women's sports succeeds little
00:43:18.800 girls will not have a chance to
00:43:20.400 compete so I ask unanimous consent
00:43:22.360 that this article be entered into the
00:43:23.660 record without objection senator
00:43:26.180 padilla I mean that's the that's the
00:43:28.700 facts here senator and you've got two
00:43:30.800 daughters that play sports if there is
00:43:33.440 not a difference that we keep
00:43:35.700 between women's sports and men's
00:43:39.400 sports women will not only cease to
00:43:42.420 exist they won't even be allowed in
00:43:46.140 essence I would say to even compete
00:43:48.120 and all of their records will
00:43:50.500 disappear instantly when men acting
00:43:54.320 like women decide to come in and take
00:43:56.240 over just like this one swimmer did
00:43:58.240 destroying people and records in
00:44:01.620 women's sports well and I want you to
00:44:03.980 focus on on what that study
00:44:05.480 concluded and by the way if I had more
00:44:07.980 time I'd run out of time those numbers
00:44:10.980 were consistently the same for the 200
00:44:12.820 meter for the 400 meter for 1600 like
00:44:15.080 like at every track and field event
00:44:17.520 that was true at all of them I just
00:44:19.360 started with 100 meter but the 100
00:44:21.940 meter think about it in 2017 which was
00:44:23.960 the year the study was examining the
00:44:26.380 fastest woman in the world grown woman
00:44:29.220 more than a hundred teenage boys beat
00:44:33.620 her time teenage boys so not even in
00:44:36.580 college not under 18 boys under 18 more
00:44:40.580 than a hundred teenage boys beat the time
00:44:43.080 of the fastest woman in the world and
00:44:45.960 more than 2,000 men beat her time if you
00:44:51.820 want to eliminate women's sports then you
00:44:55.680 can embrace the radical democratic agenda
00:44:58.080 of saying let biological males compete
00:45:00.980 against women and you will see girls
00:45:03.740 sports and women's sports disappear and
00:45:06.780 look does the Democrats want to kill
00:45:10.540 girls sports and women's sports probably
00:45:12.240 not it's just they care more about this
00:45:16.520 radical trans ideology than they do about
00:45:18.860 preserving girls sports or women's sports
00:45:20.720 so they're like well yeah that's an
00:45:22.660 unfortunate consequence but oh well our
00:45:24.940 ideology matters more yeah Pandora's box
00:45:28.180 has been open they don't want to shut it
00:45:29.940 they don't want to look like they're
00:45:31.220 shutting it so they're just going to go
00:45:32.480 with this insanity for as long as they
00:45:33.940 can I really hope that when people hear
00:45:36.580 not only her testimony but your
00:45:38.580 questioning that inspires mothers and
00:45:41.600 fathers to stand up for women's sports
00:45:44.920 for girls sports at every single level and
00:45:48.820 not to just stand by and think that this
00:45:51.100 is going to somehow just kind of go away
00:45:52.900 I don't believe that it's just going to
00:45:54.800 go away I think we're going to have to
00:45:57.100 make it very clear that women's sports
00:46:00.000 must stand alone without men infiltrating
00:46:03.020 them and and destroying what has been
00:46:06.700 set up to allow for women to compete at
00:46:09.560 the highest levels with other women and
00:46:11.540 for men to compete at the highest level
00:46:13.240 with other men it's important that we have
00:46:16.380 both categories and when you start allowing
00:46:19.020 dudes who can't make it and let's be
00:46:21.360 clear that's exactly what happened with a
00:46:22.740 swimmer he swam in college and didn't
00:46:25.020 make it so he said I'm going to go act
00:46:27.040 like a woman even though I'm clearly a
00:46:28.860 man and I'm going to win an NCAA title
00:46:30.960 and they let him and the NCAA cheered him
00:46:34.160 on and the activist democratic community
00:46:36.460 cheered him on as well and it's
00:46:38.020 destroying women who've worked so hard
00:46:40.060 just like this witness it was amazing
00:46:42.300 testimony thank you and Ben let me make a
00:46:46.020 final point on this which is this is not
00:46:49.640 actually about sexual orientation about
00:46:54.440 gays or lesbians this is not about any of
00:46:56.940 that it's about fairness it's about basic
00:47:01.040 fairness because by the way I think it's
00:47:04.260 perfectly fine if a girl wants to compete
00:47:07.920 against boys if she's got the skills like I
00:47:10.120 you know I mentioned the NBA maybe one day
00:47:12.780 there will be a woman that is skilled
00:47:14.820 enough that she can compete in the NBA I
00:47:17.580 that would be pretty cool if it could
00:47:19.040 happen I'd watch it it hasn't happened
00:47:21.720 yet but look Spud Webb Spud Webb was what
00:47:24.640 like five six and you know he's a little
00:47:27.500 short guy who competed in the NBA he was
00:47:29.360 quick enough and he won the slam dunk
00:47:30.740 competition so maybe there will be a
00:47:33.100 woman that has the skills to compete
00:47:34.800 against the gigantic men in the NBA it
00:47:38.040 hasn't happened yet we have seen so
00:47:40.540 college football there have been women
00:47:42.220 that have been field goal kickers okay
00:47:43.920 that's fine it's not unfair if a woman
00:47:49.600 has the skills to compete against boys or
00:47:52.940 men who have a physical advantage and
00:47:54.800 she's able to compete great what's
00:47:57.160 unfair is taking advantage of the
00:48:00.480 physiological additional strength and
00:48:04.940 advantages that boys and men's have to
00:48:08.040 beat girls and women that that's the
00:48:10.800 part that's unfair yeah no doubt well I
00:48:13.700 remember when when a woman for the
00:48:15.320 first time competed on the PGA tour
00:48:17.920 Erica Sorenstein it was amazing the
00:48:20.060 ratings went through the roof right
00:48:21.740 people cheered it on they wanted to
00:48:23.780 watch it but if you have a hundred men
00:48:25.920 show up next weekend to pay play on the
00:48:28.040 LPGA tour and take away all of those
00:48:30.680 paychecks from women and beat all of
00:48:33.220 those women that is as you just
00:48:35.180 described it unfair I hope moms and
00:48:37.720 dads will be inspired by this I hope
00:48:39.800 they will fight for their kids at the
00:48:41.200 local level and we got to keep
00:48:43.200 fighting to protect women's sports and
00:48:45.060 the sad part is the feminists still have
00:48:47.000 not woken up and realize that they are
00:48:49.580 not doing their job right now protecting
00:48:52.100 women's sports which they claim to be
00:48:53.840 all about and I hope they figured out
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