Verdict with Ted Cruz - The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show - Daily Review

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00:00:05.220 Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show,

00:00:07.180 wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas

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00:00:19.920 All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.

00:00:22.660 So we've got much to discuss, my friends,

00:00:26.360 including what's going on on Capitol Hill here.

00:00:30.000 Uh, with the Venezuela boat strikes.

00:00:34.380 Now we're going to have more for you shortly

00:00:36.460 on the FBI arrest situation of the pipe bomber.

00:00:42.320 Um, we're following that story as closely as we can.

00:00:45.180 Everyone's essentially in wait and see mode

00:00:47.460 until this FBI press conference.

00:00:49.460 This is going to be the next hour.

00:00:50.500 We also have Secretary of Transportation Duffy on,

00:00:54.100 uh, and we're looking forward to that conversation.

00:00:56.460 So we got a lot,

00:00:57.520 and I think we have Steve Scalise next hour,

00:00:59.240 House Majority Leader Scalise.

00:01:00.960 So we got, we got a lot going on.

00:01:02.660 We can talk to him about the pipe bomber for sure,

00:01:04.620 as well as you remember Steve Scalise,

00:01:06.860 uh, somebody who knows left-wing political violence

00:01:11.460 all too well as he had to fight for his life

00:01:14.520 after he was shot by a maniac at a baseball field

00:01:19.580 in Alexandria, Virginia, who was screaming,

00:01:23.200 this is for, uh, health care, right?

00:01:28.460 And, uh, we all remember that.

00:01:29.840 This is for health care,

00:01:30.780 and he's shooting at people who are defenseless.

00:01:32.900 After also, Buck, remember, asking,

00:01:35.140 are those Republicans or Democrats?

00:01:38.100 Like, because they were just playing baseball.

00:01:39.420 You didn't know who, you know,

00:01:40.440 they were warming up on a field.

00:01:41.860 It wasn't like you could really tell who they were.

00:01:44.640 Yes, exactly.

00:01:46.300 So, um, that's where we are on, on that story.

00:01:50.220 Uh, we're waiting to hear more from the FBI,

00:01:51.960 but we'll speak to Steve Scalise about that.

00:01:53.960 In the meantime, you know that this has become

00:01:56.480 now the primary, uh, attack on the administration.

00:01:59.560 This, all the different anti-Trump news outlets,

00:02:03.320 their, their main thing that they are covering right now

00:02:06.320 is this.

00:02:08.020 In fact, it even overshadowed, you know,

00:02:10.100 there was some Epstein stuff that was released.

00:02:11.960 Now, nothing, it's some photos.

00:02:14.320 You see this?

00:02:15.420 Nobody even really paid very much attention to it

00:02:17.440 in the media.

00:02:17.980 It wasn't anything of particular interest,

00:02:20.060 to be honest, from what I saw.

00:02:21.600 Uh, there's a lot more, I think, that's coming out.

00:02:23.460 But this is the story right now.

00:02:26.380 So, here is what is, what is at, at issue.

00:02:30.700 Uh, as we have discussed,

00:02:32.460 I, I believe, and Clay has believed all along here,

00:02:35.300 based upon the facts as presented to us,

00:02:37.140 that Secretary Hegseth and those below him

00:02:39.940 in the chain of command acted lawfully, okay?

00:02:44.360 But there is also an understanding here

00:02:46.820 that there is a situation in which

00:02:49.120 it is possible that you can be in a situation

00:02:52.300 where you cannot just, like,

00:02:54.920 finish off the survivors of a strike.

00:02:56.880 That is also a thing.

00:02:58.660 I think both sides have agreed on that,

00:03:02.060 and I think that's important

00:03:03.260 because I see some people saying,

00:03:04.500 oh, if they were, you know,

00:03:05.400 cling to wreckage

00:03:06.260 and they were knocked out unconscious,

00:03:07.880 we could just mow them down.

00:03:09.200 No.

00:03:10.220 But, if they were still in the fight,

00:03:12.960 meaning if they were still actively

00:03:14.520 communicating with the drug cartels

00:03:16.480 and trying to salvage the drugs

00:03:18.700 and trying to basically continue the mission,

00:03:21.060 it is what it is.

00:03:22.780 And then you continue on.

00:03:24.020 Here's ABC's Martha Raddatz on this.

00:03:27.040 Play, she's obviously a Trump hater,

00:03:28.620 but, you know, this is what she said.

00:03:29.620 Play three.

00:03:30.000 Tonight, new information.

00:03:32.040 According to a source familiar with the incident,

00:03:34.940 the two survivors climbed back onto the boat

00:03:37.720 after the initial strike.

00:03:39.360 They were believed to be potentially

00:03:41.120 in communication with others

00:03:42.940 and salvaging some of the drugs.

00:03:45.560 Because of that, it was determined

00:03:47.080 they were still in the fight

00:03:48.640 and valid targets.

00:03:50.040 A JAG officer was also giving legal advice.

00:03:53.280 So, again, David, that video will be key,

00:03:55.500 and Admiral Bradley will be on the hill

00:03:57.400 tomorrow behind closed doors.

00:03:58.560 So, they have released the video,

00:04:02.080 and if, as has been reported there,

00:04:05.260 that is true,

00:04:06.720 this story is going to vanish.

00:04:09.140 So, we'll see.

00:04:10.800 You know, there may be some dispute

00:04:13.040 about what in the fight still looked like,

00:04:16.460 and, again, how high quality

00:04:19.160 is the video version of this.

00:04:22.640 But this would seem to be a pretty clear validation

00:04:29.780 of the decision that was made,

00:04:32.080 as well as legal having been there

00:04:34.740 and signed off as, you know,

00:04:36.880 watching the incident saying,

00:04:38.980 yes, there's still enemy combatants.

00:04:40.720 Yes, you can take this action.

00:04:42.920 That seems to me to be kind of an open and shut case.

00:04:45.860 So, we will see whether this starts to vanish.

00:04:49.220 What I would say is,

00:04:51.180 in the new studio that I have here, Buck,

00:04:53.800 the ability to drive narrative

00:04:55.960 on CNN or MSNBC,

00:04:58.800 you can kind of judge

00:04:59.900 whether they think they got something.

00:05:01.720 They're already pulling back

00:05:03.260 on their coverage of this strike

00:05:06.020 now that the video's out there,

00:05:08.120 now that more details are being released.

00:05:10.420 It feels to me like the Washington Post story

00:05:14.280 over-promised.

00:05:16.080 The video has under-delivered

00:05:18.060 what they said it would,

00:05:19.700 and we're on to whatever the next controversy

00:05:23.280 is inside of the Trump administration.

00:05:26.560 I think you said this earlier in the week,

00:05:28.500 and I believe it was an astute observation,

00:05:31.480 that this is turning into a little bit

00:05:33.220 of a Kilmar-Abrego-Garcia situation for them

00:05:36.800 where the Democrats,

00:05:38.820 to people who are paying attention,

00:05:40.900 the Democrats are going to the mat

00:05:43.540 in order to take the side on these issues.

00:05:48.200 I know they would say of, like,

00:05:49.320 the Geneva Conventions and human rights,

00:05:51.440 but of the drug cartels.

00:05:52.660 Yes.

00:05:53.120 Which are killing,

00:05:54.680 last year I think it was like 80,000, 90,000.

00:05:57.080 That's right.

00:05:57.440 But something approaching 100,000,

00:06:00.720 the worst years have been

00:06:01.500 in the low 100,000 range.

00:06:04.240 It's far too many people.

00:06:06.100 And I also think it's important to remember

00:06:07.960 it's not just the people who die.

00:06:10.020 Lives are shattered just by the addiction to fentanyl.

00:06:12.820 Think about the families that are destroyed.

00:06:14.620 Think about the criminality,

00:06:16.620 the criminal enterprises,

00:06:18.220 the drug turf wars that happened.

00:06:21.360 We look at that number.

00:06:22.500 It's like looking at murders in a city.

00:06:24.660 You know, the murders give you a sense,

00:06:26.180 but don't cover the whole totality of,

00:06:28.900 oh, this city has far too many assaults

00:06:30.620 and rapes and robberies

00:06:31.580 and everything else going on.

00:06:33.240 The drug war isn't just about overdoses,

00:06:35.460 although that's the most, you know,

00:06:37.500 poignant and destructive aspect of it.

00:06:41.660 There's a whole lot of other secondary effects

00:06:43.760 that are horrible,

00:06:44.520 and people are tired of it.

00:06:46.580 And my point here, Clay,

00:06:47.660 is that once again you have Democrats

00:06:49.640 who are like, hold on,

00:06:51.020 we need to make sure it's not so hard

00:06:52.880 for the cartels to bring the drugs into America.

00:06:55.600 That's, you're being too harsh with the cartels.

00:06:59.140 And a lot of Americans are saying,

00:07:01.160 yeah, I don't know about that.

00:07:03.240 Who you pick as your face of any argument is huge.

00:07:09.320 And again, I said the, you know,

00:07:12.000 the plaintiff, the name plaintiff in a case

00:07:15.100 is always a huge part for anybody out there

00:07:17.360 that files a lawsuit, class action.

00:07:19.640 They try to find the most sympathetic plaintiff out there,

00:07:22.960 the one that is going to pull at the heartstrings

00:07:25.180 that is going to make people say,

00:07:26.500 wait a minute,

00:07:27.280 are we really doing the right thing here?

00:07:30.040 And we told you part of the deportation

00:07:32.680 of illegal immigrants,

00:07:33.780 they are going to focus on the mom,

00:07:36.760 the little girl,

00:07:38.000 the heartstring issues.

00:07:40.260 But then they blew it.

00:07:41.640 Then they were like,

00:07:42.340 hey, actually,

00:07:43.520 do you know how aggressive this thing is?

00:07:45.520 Kilmar Abreo Garcia,

00:07:47.020 a human trafficking,

00:07:48.320 drug smuggling illegal,

00:07:49.900 who his wife had to call the police on

00:07:52.820 because he was allegedly beating her up.

00:07:54.960 He's being forced out of the country.

00:07:56.740 And people are like,

00:07:57.480 yeah, okay.

00:07:59.740 And it didn't really land.

00:08:01.340 And now Democrats are going to make the face

00:08:03.660 of Trump's combat,

00:08:05.900 combating of illegal drugs coming into the country.

00:08:09.440 A couple of narco terrorists in Venezuela

00:08:12.740 who we were too mean to.

00:08:14.820 And it's a tough sell.

00:08:16.600 Remember,

00:08:17.200 or was it Linda who called in?

00:08:18.500 Linda's like,

00:08:21.300 were they floating around with little floaties

00:08:24.060 like in a pool?

00:08:25.040 Blow them up.

00:08:26.220 Take them out.

00:08:27.160 I don't care.

00:08:28.900 Linda takes the deep drag on the Virginia Slim.

00:08:30.780 Oh, they're doing a backstroke?

00:08:32.860 I saw a backstroke there.

00:08:34.500 Another missile.

00:08:35.640 Another missile.

00:08:36.860 Wax them.

00:08:37.580 And everybody,

00:08:38.180 I don't even think anybody came,

00:08:39.540 like everybody was in Linda's defense.

00:08:41.660 We got loaded.

00:08:42.660 I don't think we should go track down

00:08:44.460 some of those talkbacks,

00:08:45.860 but it looks like Linda's being vindicated here.

00:08:48.160 Is that wax?

00:08:49.040 I gotta say,

00:08:49.980 I did not get,

00:08:51.040 I did not see,

00:08:51.980 and this is the great thing too, guys.

00:08:53.420 You're all a part of the conversation

00:08:54.920 whenever you send in a talkback,

00:08:56.560 an email,

00:08:57.460 or you even just talk to producer Greg

00:08:59.000 if you want to get on live,

00:08:59.880 because that all gets Clay and I

00:09:01.260 talking about in the breaks.

00:09:02.200 We read it and we see it.

00:09:03.420 I don't think I saw anybody

00:09:04.900 who was calling out Linda.

00:09:07.900 Like, you know what I'm saying?

00:09:08.720 Nobody was like,

00:09:09.320 how dare she?

00:09:10.160 A lot of people are like,

00:09:11.020 eh, I'm kind of with Linda.

00:09:13.100 Yeah, no,

00:09:14.120 I think it is really very funny

00:09:18.580 in many ways

00:09:20.380 that the things that they think

00:09:22.240 are going to rally their base

00:09:24.340 actually often rally the Trump base instead.

00:09:27.380 And part of it is just not understanding

00:09:29.180 basic narrative.

00:09:30.500 And I've talked about this for a long time.

00:09:32.180 If you are a student of history,

00:09:33.640 this is obviously, what,

00:09:36.020 60, 70 years ago now,

00:09:37.560 but they waited on the Montgomery bus boycotts

00:09:42.140 until they had the right face

00:09:45.900 of the Montgomery bus boycotts,

00:09:48.360 which was Rosa Parks.

00:09:49.780 If you go back and study that era,

00:09:52.740 they actually arrested a young single mother

00:09:56.320 who refused to give up her seat

00:09:58.420 before Rosa Parks did it.

00:10:00.320 And the civil rights leaders,

00:10:02.540 including Martin Luther King Jr.,

00:10:03.980 said, no, no, no.

00:10:04.720 So the single mom who is unmarried

00:10:08.360 is not the right face of the bus boycott.

00:10:12.420 We want Rosa Parks to be the face of this boycott.

00:10:15.060 So she wasn't even the first

00:10:16.280 who refused to give up her seat

00:10:17.740 that turned into the beginnings

00:10:19.540 of the civil rights movement in the South

00:10:21.260 back in Montgomery, Alabama in the day.

00:10:23.040 They looked at it

00:10:24.180 and they were waiting for

00:10:25.560 what they thought was

00:10:26.840 the most sympathetic plaintiff,

00:10:28.440 the best face of their argument

00:10:32.160 that they could find.

00:10:33.720 And I just I look at some of this stuff

00:10:36.420 and I just say,

00:10:37.520 who is making these decisions

00:10:39.580 on messaging for the Democrat Party?

00:10:41.720 They're really just poor

00:10:43.440 at even making the cases

00:10:45.020 that they're trying to make.

00:10:46.160 And sometimes you just got to

00:10:48.320 bring in somebody like Linda

00:10:51.420 is going to say,

00:10:52.100 light them up.

00:10:53.580 Light them up.

00:10:54.800 That's it.

00:10:55.540 I've had enough of these clowns.

00:10:57.200 You know, this is also

00:10:59.480 we sleep soundly at night.

00:11:01.160 We sleep soundly at night

00:11:02.560 because Linda stands on that wall

00:11:04.480 smoking that stogie saying

00:11:06.080 enough's enough.

00:11:07.580 Colonel Linda Jessup out there.

00:11:09.400 We talked about this before.

00:11:10.440 Who's tougher?

00:11:11.260 Who's tougher in your house?

00:11:12.880 In discipline, you or your wife?

00:11:14.720 Oh, it's not.

00:11:15.160 It's not even not even close.

00:11:17.020 It's the carry his way.

00:11:18.480 And this is also dealing

00:11:20.140 like with anyone

00:11:21.140 who's trying to play

00:11:21.740 any funny business with us,

00:11:22.840 like a contractor

00:11:23.780 or something comes up.

00:11:25.160 I just kind of want to

00:11:26.060 always pull them aside.

00:11:26.800 Be like, look,

00:11:27.920 you really want to deal with me.

00:11:29.180 Yeah, you don't.

00:11:30.240 You don't want me to bring.

00:11:31.520 You don't carry.

00:11:32.900 You.

00:11:33.320 I am the softy in this house.

00:11:35.260 If you you do not want Laura

00:11:37.620 as the on the wall

00:11:39.560 to make decisions.

00:11:41.940 You don't want to.

00:11:42.580 I'm the hostage negotiator.

00:11:45.100 Carry carry is the CT team

00:11:47.160 that goes in with flashbangs.

00:11:48.620 Like, it's just a different deal.

00:11:49.880 You want to deal with me.

00:11:51.120 If you miss the Linda

00:11:52.280 who people love

00:11:53.440 and Linda may be listening right now.

00:11:55.840 Linda, we will play what she said

00:11:58.060 as she is now being vindicated.

00:11:59.800 But she was fine.

00:12:01.000 Even, you know, like Buck said,

00:12:02.780 these guys could have been,

00:12:03.780 you know, with floating around

00:12:05.380 on noodles with with nothing left.

00:12:08.060 She's like, just wax them.

00:12:09.440 But we'll have some fun.

00:12:10.420 We'll play that.

00:12:10.920 We come back.

00:12:12.020 All right.

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00:13:47.780 Welcome back in.

00:13:48.800 Hour number two.

00:13:49.580 Clay Travis,

00:13:50.420 Buck Sexton Show.

00:13:51.500 Appreciate all of you

00:13:52.440 hanging out with us.

00:13:53.900 We are monitoring

00:13:55.180 the soon-to-be

00:13:57.000 press conference

00:13:57.740 from the FBI

00:13:58.940 about an arrest

00:14:00.980 in the D.C.

00:14:02.160 pipe bomb case.

00:14:03.540 We will keep you updated

00:14:04.860 on that in D.C.

00:14:06.540 as well.

00:14:07.660 We are joined now

00:14:08.560 by Secretary Sean Duffy.

00:14:11.080 I am headed to D.C.

00:14:12.460 a little bit later

00:14:13.120 this afternoon

00:14:13.980 for the big event

00:14:15.240 at the Kennedy Center

00:14:16.360 tomorrow

00:14:17.020 with the World Cup

00:14:18.900 coming to

00:14:19.880 the United States.

00:14:21.800 It is going to be

00:14:22.380 an incredible scene.

00:14:24.280 I know there are

00:14:24.700 many different things

00:14:25.660 that you are working on

00:14:26.980 on a variety

00:14:27.660 of different arenas

00:14:28.860 every single day

00:14:29.940 but this is a fun one.

00:14:31.760 Secretary Sean Duffy

00:14:32.780 with us right now.

00:14:34.060 What should we know

00:14:35.220 about this big event

00:14:37.300 that is starting

00:14:38.020 in June

00:14:38.800 and will officially

00:14:39.740 be laid out

00:14:41.200 bracket style

00:14:42.480 to a large extent

00:14:43.700 tomorrow?

00:14:44.720 So first off

00:14:45.660 when you

00:14:46.040 I imagine you're flying

00:14:47.200 here you're not driving

00:14:48.120 so hopefully your flight

00:14:49.240 is going to be

00:14:49.660 not delayed on time

00:14:51.020 you're going to be

00:14:51.620 you know perfect air time.

00:14:53.660 Yes.

00:14:53.840 I can't control

00:14:54.540 the weather

00:14:54.880 but beyond that

00:14:55.500 hopefully you're

00:14:56.200 in a good place.

00:14:57.260 Listen so this is exciting

00:14:58.540 so tomorrow

00:14:59.440 we'll have thousands

00:15:00.520 of people

00:15:00.920 including yourself

00:15:01.680 at the Kennedy Center

00:15:02.600 I'm going to be

00:15:03.400 there as well

00:15:04.000 but a billion people

00:15:06.140 tune in for the draw

00:15:07.740 around the world

00:15:09.120 to see you know

00:15:11.080 what team is going

00:15:12.420 to play

00:15:12.720 what team

00:15:13.560 where

00:15:13.900 it's going to be

00:15:14.540 you know fantastic

00:15:15.380 Donald Trump

00:15:16.340 is going to be there

00:15:16.880 the president of Mexico

00:15:17.660 is going to be there as well

00:15:18.680 so that's really exciting

00:15:20.420 and as we look

00:15:21.040 to the summer

00:15:21.540 again we're celebrating

00:15:22.300 America's 250th birthday

00:15:24.240 exciting

00:15:25.380 and the World Cup

00:15:26.660 is going to come

00:15:27.200 there'll be 11 million people

00:15:29.320 that fly into the country

00:15:31.220 to watch the games

00:15:32.520 and again

00:15:34.340 from my perspective

00:15:35.300 why is DOT involved?

00:15:36.760 Well

00:15:36.920 we're one of the most

00:15:38.160 important aspects

00:15:39.100 so not only welcoming

00:15:40.400 you know foreign travelers

00:15:41.560 into the country

00:15:42.260 working with Kristi Noem

00:15:43.940 and Marco Rubio

00:15:45.300 to make it a seamless experience

00:15:46.820 but then

00:15:47.760 they're flying between

00:15:49.100 host cities

00:15:49.920 they're taking trains

00:15:50.940 buses

00:15:51.420 and then in the cities

00:15:52.980 making sure the transit

00:15:53.960 actually works

00:15:54.600 buses

00:15:55.140 rail cars

00:15:56.400 tracks

00:15:57.420 to make sure

00:15:58.320 that we get

00:15:58.940 all of these spectators

00:16:00.420 into the facilities

00:16:01.320 and then back out again

00:16:02.640 do it safely

00:16:03.280 do it seamlessly

00:16:04.020 this is our opportunity

00:16:05.500 to showcase America

00:16:06.740 on our great birthday

00:16:07.820 and so

00:16:09.100 listen

00:16:09.500 we've been working

00:16:10.100 for

00:16:11.100 nine months

00:16:12.900 on this thing

00:16:13.640 to make sure

00:16:14.840 that all of our teams

00:16:15.740 are working together

00:16:16.800 and resources

00:16:17.520 and assets

00:16:18.000 are deployed

00:16:18.560 to make sure

00:16:19.380 it's a great experience

00:16:19.920 for what is going

00:16:21.520 to be a global event

00:16:22.440 what kind of money

00:16:24.140 Secretary Duffy

00:16:24.980 does this bring

00:16:25.840 into the country

00:16:26.560 what are some of the estimates

00:16:27.540 about the economic activity

00:16:29.220 and just all of that

00:16:31.260 side of things

00:16:31.980 I don't have those numbers

00:16:34.040 but listen

00:16:34.520 this is billions of dollars

00:16:36.100 that come in

00:16:36.680 you fill up

00:16:37.300 you fill up hotels

00:16:38.160 you fill up planes

00:16:39.180 restaurants

00:16:40.560 and then

00:16:42.140 you know

00:16:42.420 there's time between

00:16:43.600 you know

00:16:43.940 each of the matches

00:16:44.540 so there's an opportunity

00:16:45.880 for foreigners

00:16:46.680 who might be coming

00:16:48.060 to America

00:16:48.640 for the first time

00:16:49.460 to go out

00:16:50.420 and see our beautiful country

00:16:51.540 a lot of places

00:16:52.200 to go check out

00:16:54.660 and tour

00:16:55.020 as you're

00:16:55.660 waiting for the next match

00:16:56.800 so again

00:16:57.960 many billions of dollars

00:16:59.700 this is going to

00:17:00.320 impact the country

00:17:01.060 and so

00:17:01.360 that part of it's huge

00:17:02.540 by the way

00:17:02.900 can I tell you

00:17:03.280 Donald Trump

00:17:04.500 loves sports

00:17:05.500 right

00:17:06.040 whether he's going

00:17:06.760 you know

00:17:07.420 to basketball

00:17:08.600 football

00:17:09.120 but as we have

00:17:10.540 the World Cup

00:17:11.780 going on

00:17:12.320 during the 250th birthday

00:17:13.760 he has a UFC cage match

00:17:15.580 first time

00:17:16.140 at the White House

00:17:16.940 going on as well

00:17:18.500 so it's going to be

00:17:19.920 a lot of fun

00:17:21.440 but a huge economic

00:17:23.060 revenue driver

00:17:23.680 for the country

00:17:24.240 and by the way

00:17:24.940 you have people

00:17:27.320 coming in

00:17:27.780 to watch soccer

00:17:28.800 but you know

00:17:29.800 who knows

00:17:30.240 how many times

00:17:30.720 they come back

00:17:31.220 to go

00:17:31.440 this was a great

00:17:32.180 experience in America

00:17:33.120 and I think

00:17:34.020 here's the problem

00:17:34.580 we have a lot of

00:17:35.560 people around the world

00:17:36.800 who have said

00:17:37.640 am I welcome

00:17:38.640 to come to America

00:17:39.840 they've seen

00:17:41.220 that people

00:17:41.580 have overstayed

00:17:42.180 their visas

00:17:42.640 or they've come here

00:17:43.300 illegally

00:17:43.600 and we've tried

00:17:44.020 to deport them

00:17:44.700 we've taken those

00:17:45.620 who haven't come

00:17:46.220 lawfully

00:17:46.620 we've sent them out

00:17:47.700 that doesn't mean

00:17:48.680 we don't want

00:17:49.160 people to come

00:17:49.900 of course we want

00:17:50.920 people to come

00:17:51.540 we want them to come

00:17:52.600 the right way

00:17:53.320 and come and visit

00:17:54.060 and come and see

00:17:55.080 all we have to offer

00:17:55.900 and then follow our rules

00:17:57.520 and there's a timeline

00:17:59.080 in which they get

00:17:59.680 their visas

00:18:00.040 and you know

00:18:00.860 which will be well

00:18:01.860 after the games

00:18:02.880 have ended

00:18:03.200 and they can head home

00:18:04.340 but so no

00:18:04.980 we want people to come

00:18:05.900 for people who don't know

00:18:08.720 and I've been doing

00:18:09.260 my research on this

00:18:10.280 because I turn into

00:18:11.960 a pretty decent

00:18:13.280 soccer fan

00:18:13.900 every four years

00:18:14.720 because I'm a big

00:18:15.320 sports fan

00:18:15.840 there are 104 games

00:18:17.100 I believe

00:18:17.560 that are going to be

00:18:18.120 played

00:18:18.400 we're talking

00:18:18.740 Department of

00:18:19.220 Transportation

00:18:19.760 Secretary Sean Duffy

00:18:21.520 the vast majority

00:18:22.820 of those games

00:18:23.400 are going to be played

00:18:23.860 in the United States

00:18:24.900 and there are now

00:18:26.320 48 teams

00:18:27.800 that are going to

00:18:29.420 that are going to be

00:18:30.560 involved in the World Cup

00:18:31.980 they've expanded it

00:18:32.780 from 32

00:18:33.500 tomorrow

00:18:34.500 we will find out

00:18:35.920 which of the 12

00:18:37.320 groups of four

00:18:38.520 the United States

00:18:39.700 is in

00:18:40.100 among other countries

00:18:41.280 do you know

00:18:42.200 what President Trump's

00:18:43.520 role is going to be

00:18:44.680 tomorrow

00:18:45.020 it's taking place

00:18:45.880 at the Kennedy Center

00:18:46.740 this is in many ways

00:18:48.180 a Trump production

00:18:49.280 Fox Sports

00:18:50.100 is going to be

00:18:50.540 putting it on

00:18:51.140 like you said

00:18:52.160 I'll be there

00:18:52.620 there'll be a ton

00:18:53.120 of us there

00:18:53.600 what do you know

00:18:54.900 about the event

00:18:55.660 tomorrow

00:18:56.160 so I'll get to that

00:18:58.520 in a second

00:18:58.880 but again

00:18:59.520 there's 16

00:19:00.900 host cities

00:19:01.600 11 are in the

00:19:02.760 United States

00:19:03.340 we are the main

00:19:05.140 the main host

00:19:05.840 and so it's

00:19:07.320 going to be a big

00:19:07.740 production

00:19:08.060 again I'm going

00:19:08.980 as well

00:19:09.420 I hear it's like

00:19:10.940 red carpet

00:19:11.940 and everyone's

00:19:12.760 coming in

00:19:13.300 and it's the

00:19:13.860 production value

00:19:14.920 and by the way

00:19:15.280 no one produces

00:19:16.060 events like this

00:19:16.800 better than

00:19:17.140 Donald Trump

00:19:17.660 I think he's

00:19:19.300 maybe a master

00:19:20.480 of ceremonies

00:19:21.180 going to address

00:19:22.720 the crowd

00:19:23.200 you know

00:19:23.580 before the draws

00:19:24.600 happen

00:19:24.980 and again

00:19:25.800 he's the most

00:19:27.120 famous person

00:19:27.860 in the world

00:19:28.280 and to be there

00:19:29.260 lending his name

00:19:30.560 the presidency

00:19:31.280 to this great

00:19:32.600 event

00:19:32.960 I think makes it

00:19:34.260 that much more

00:19:34.760 exciting and

00:19:35.380 interesting

00:19:35.780 but again

00:19:36.140 the world

00:19:37.060 tunes in

00:19:37.580 because

00:19:37.920 they're excited

00:19:38.840 to see

00:19:39.320 what group

00:19:40.280 they're going

00:19:40.560 to be in

00:19:41.040 who they're

00:19:42.000 going to play

00:19:42.400 and do I have

00:19:42.940 an easy bracket

00:19:43.720 a hard bracket

00:19:44.600 what's my

00:19:47.400 prospects now

00:19:48.260 for my team

00:19:48.920 to prevail

00:19:49.380 in the World Cup

00:19:50.440 so again

00:19:51.540 the details

00:19:52.160 I'm showing up

00:19:52.860 you probably know

00:19:53.440 more than I

00:19:53.760 I mean Clay

00:19:54.560 you know more

00:19:54.900 than I do

00:19:55.340 I'm coming

00:19:56.020 but I don't

00:19:56.900 know

00:19:57.060 I'm bringing

00:19:58.440 my scarf

00:19:59.140 and I'm going

00:19:59.480 to be there

00:19:59.960 and I'm going

00:20:00.320 to enjoy

00:20:00.560 the festivities

00:20:01.200 and pick it

00:20:02.820 up like you

00:20:03.260 will

00:20:03.500 Secretary Sean

00:20:05.140 Duffy with us

00:20:05.800 now Secretary

00:20:06.320 of Transportation

00:20:07.720 and I'm sure

00:20:09.960 this is your

00:20:10.360 favorite question

00:20:10.980 Mr. Secretary

00:20:11.560 I'm sure

00:20:12.220 that everywhere

00:20:12.640 you go

00:20:13.460 when everyone

00:20:14.520 realizes who

00:20:15.300 you are

00:20:16.080 and they start

00:20:17.040 asking

00:20:17.460 what's up

00:20:18.840 my favorite

00:20:20.160 question is a

00:20:20.800 bad lead up

00:20:21.400 to the

00:20:21.780 oh yeah

00:20:22.860 no I

00:20:23.360 don't trust

00:20:23.920 me

00:20:24.180 so how

00:20:25.320 are we

00:20:25.600 doing

00:20:25.800 with the

00:20:26.160 whole

00:20:26.360 fixing

00:20:26.780 air

00:20:27.060 traffic

00:20:27.440 control

00:20:27.980 and making

00:20:28.440 planes

00:20:28.900 go on

00:20:29.400 time

00:20:29.820 Mr.

00:20:30.240 Secretary

00:20:30.640 you know

00:20:31.240 this is

00:20:31.600 something

00:20:31.860 near and

00:20:32.400 dear

00:20:32.640 to everybody

00:20:33.300 who flies

00:20:33.960 all over

00:20:34.380 the country's

00:20:34.980 heart

00:20:35.220 and I'm

00:20:36.040 sure people

00:20:36.520 ask you

00:20:37.120 I'm sure

00:20:37.700 you get

00:20:37.940 asked at

00:20:38.300 the Thanksgiving

00:20:38.800 table

00:20:39.260 you get

00:20:39.620 asked in

00:20:40.020 the airport

00:20:40.400 when you're

00:20:40.840 flying

00:20:41.200 what's going

00:20:41.640 on with it

00:20:42.100 no better

00:20:43.020 better yet

00:20:43.760 anyone who

00:20:44.760 has my cell

00:20:45.260 number

00:20:45.500 when they're

00:20:46.140 delayed

00:20:46.580 I get a

00:20:47.460 text

00:20:47.660 oh yeah

00:20:48.020 like hey

00:20:48.700 I'm

00:20:49.000 an hour

00:20:49.760 delayed

00:20:50.160 like come

00:20:50.640 on

00:20:51.000 I'm like

00:20:51.680 very special

00:20:53.420 text

00:20:53.720 thank you

00:20:54.040 for sending

00:20:54.320 that to

00:20:54.620 me

00:20:54.800 no sir

00:20:55.320 I appreciate

00:20:56.040 the question

00:20:56.440 so I

00:20:57.660 laid out

00:20:58.460 oh shoot

00:20:59.340 six months

00:20:59.820 ago

00:21:00.100 how old

00:21:01.140 and antiquated

00:21:01.840 our air

00:21:02.420 traffic control

00:21:03.080 system is

00:21:03.620 and it is

00:21:04.400 we're using

00:21:04.980 you know

00:21:05.520 some iteration

00:21:06.640 of 1960s

00:21:07.860 70s

00:21:08.560 80s

00:21:09.220 equipment

00:21:09.660 software

00:21:10.420 from the

00:21:10.960 90s

00:21:12.020 and so

00:21:13.020 I was given

00:21:14.100 12 and a half

00:21:14.800 billion dollars

00:21:15.540 in the big

00:21:15.880 beautiful bill

00:21:16.400 it's a big

00:21:16.920 deal

00:21:17.160 it's a lot

00:21:17.560 of money

00:21:17.900 I need

00:21:18.840 another 20

00:21:19.740 billion

00:21:20.160 but with

00:21:21.200 that 12

00:21:21.680 and a half

00:21:22.120 billion dollars

00:21:23.100 we've already

00:21:23.680 started

00:21:24.140 so you know

00:21:24.540 we have

00:21:24.840 copper

00:21:25.260 we have

00:21:25.940 to transition

00:21:26.540 to fiber

00:21:27.040 we've already

00:21:27.980 completed over

00:21:28.800 30% of those

00:21:30.020 transitions

00:21:30.520 since I got

00:21:31.580 the money

00:21:31.920 from the big

00:21:32.300 beautiful bill

00:21:32.820 now that

00:21:33.600 doesn't mean

00:21:34.180 because I have

00:21:35.040 fiber I've

00:21:35.580 switched from

00:21:36.000 analog to

00:21:36.620 digital

00:21:37.000 that's another

00:21:37.740 step

00:21:38.180 we're going to

00:21:39.240 announce later

00:21:39.740 today we're going

00:21:40.340 to pick an

00:21:40.760 integrator

00:21:41.320 that's going to

00:21:42.320 run the whole

00:21:43.080 operation

00:21:43.640 we'll have one

00:21:44.420 paycheck to write

00:21:45.160 one throat

00:21:46.280 to choke

00:21:46.800 the mission is

00:21:48.280 don't break the

00:21:48.960 national airspace

00:21:49.680 number one

00:21:50.260 and number two

00:21:51.440 make sure that you

00:21:52.600 deliver this on

00:21:53.480 time which is by

00:21:54.360 the end of

00:21:54.800 2028 so we

00:21:55.740 have a three

00:21:56.140 year window

00:21:56.700 new radios

00:21:57.820 new radars

00:21:58.640 new voice

00:21:59.140 switches

00:21:59.500 and all new

00:22:00.520 telecom

00:22:01.060 that's the

00:22:01.880 foundation

00:22:02.440 that we

00:22:03.520 build off

00:22:04.200 of a

00:22:04.580 we need

00:22:05.380 a new

00:22:06.020 software system

00:22:06.900 once I get

00:22:08.160 the money

00:22:08.480 for that

00:22:08.940 I'll be able

00:22:09.340 to start

00:22:09.720 developing

00:22:10.660 debugging

00:22:11.680 and then

00:22:12.140 deploying it

00:22:12.740 that's what's

00:22:13.240 going to

00:22:13.480 really change

00:22:14.220 the way the

00:22:14.640 airspace works

00:22:15.400 and so if

00:22:16.540 you look

00:22:16.860 forward

00:22:17.320 five ten

00:22:18.040 years

00:22:18.380 we're going

00:22:19.180 to double

00:22:19.780 triple the

00:22:20.820 capacity

00:22:21.360 of the use

00:22:22.680 of our

00:22:22.900 airspace

00:22:23.300 we have

00:22:23.600 drones

00:22:24.260 we have

00:22:24.600 these

00:22:24.780 evitals

00:22:25.300 the ubers

00:22:25.920 in the air

00:22:26.480 you might have

00:22:26.820 seen videos

00:22:27.240 of those

00:22:27.640 more air

00:22:28.500 travel

00:22:28.920 I gotta jump

00:22:30.860 in on this

00:22:31.220 because I

00:22:31.520 just saw

00:22:31.920 something about

00:22:32.480 the Miami

00:22:33.020 Palm Beach

00:22:33.560 corridor

00:22:33.960 so that

00:22:34.360 really piqued

00:22:34.780 my interest

00:22:35.300 are we

00:22:36.040 going to

00:22:36.280 have air

00:22:37.320 taxis

00:22:38.060 on certain

00:22:38.940 routes

00:22:39.400 during this

00:22:40.620 Trump

00:22:40.840 administration's

00:22:41.520 term

00:22:41.720 is that

00:22:42.040 going to

00:22:42.280 happen

00:22:42.540 100%

00:22:43.860 100%

00:22:44.460 and I

00:22:45.280 think

00:22:45.440 they're

00:22:45.600 safer

00:22:45.920 and quieter

00:22:47.020 and cheaper

00:22:47.780 than a

00:22:48.120 helicopter

00:22:48.440 so yeah

00:22:49.960 you're going

00:22:50.880 to move

00:22:51.100 people more

00:22:51.860 seamlessly

00:22:52.340 through the

00:22:52.800 airspace

00:22:53.280 with these

00:22:54.760 air taxis

00:22:55.620 to use that

00:22:56.480 phrase

00:22:56.800 and

00:22:57.600 yes

00:22:58.940 the airspace

00:23:00.280 aviation

00:23:00.800 really hasn't

00:23:01.680 changed

00:23:02.080 in the last

00:23:02.700 70 years

00:23:04.020 80 years

00:23:04.680 this

00:23:05.560 I mean

00:23:06.000 with drone

00:23:07.240 deliveries

00:23:07.640 you're going

00:23:07.920 to be able

00:23:08.120 to get a

00:23:08.380 hot cup

00:23:08.660 of coffee

00:23:09.100 your door

00:23:09.860 dash

00:23:10.300 a delivery

00:23:11.820 if you forgot

00:23:12.240 something

00:23:12.440 at the grocery

00:23:12.920 store

00:23:13.240 or you need

00:23:13.620 medicine

00:23:14.040 three and a

00:23:15.040 half to five

00:23:15.500 pound deliveries

00:23:16.060 going to

00:23:16.560 change the

00:23:17.120 way products

00:23:17.680 are delivered

00:23:18.160 the way we

00:23:19.180 move

00:23:19.540 with these

00:23:20.100 with these

00:23:20.960 air taxis

00:23:21.680 is it's

00:23:22.660 fairly

00:23:23.500 inexpensive

00:23:24.180 and they

00:23:25.560 move seamlessly

00:23:26.280 through the

00:23:26.640 airspace

00:23:27.100 giving you

00:23:27.480 access

00:23:27.840 from one

00:23:28.780 neighborhood

00:23:29.140 to a city

00:23:30.080 location

00:23:30.600 or you

00:23:31.060 look at

00:23:31.500 again

00:23:32.160 the east

00:23:33.200 coast

00:23:33.500 of Florida

00:23:34.260 moving people

00:23:35.240 along that

00:23:35.800 corridor

00:23:36.180 really I think

00:23:37.240 critical

00:23:37.660 going to change

00:23:38.180 the way that

00:23:38.740 people can

00:23:40.220 live in that

00:23:41.280 part of the

00:23:41.720 country

00:23:42.040 and then

00:23:42.960 we also have

00:23:43.700 autonomous vehicles

00:23:44.460 on the horizon

00:23:45.060 as well

00:23:45.540 that's going to

00:23:46.440 change the way

00:23:47.160 people move

00:23:48.040 as well

00:23:48.340 how they

00:23:48.660 purchase cars

00:23:49.340 how our

00:23:50.260 systems are

00:23:50.800 safer

00:23:51.180 and our

00:23:52.000 job is to

00:23:52.640 make sure

00:23:53.060 that I call

00:23:53.900 it my

00:23:54.120 Goldilocks

00:23:54.660 theory

00:23:54.980 we can't

00:23:55.980 have

00:23:56.100 regulations

00:23:56.520 that go

00:23:56.900 too fast

00:23:57.500 because if

00:23:58.580 bad things

00:23:59.060 happen

00:23:59.400 we get

00:23:59.860 set back

00:24:00.460 if I go

00:24:01.600 too slow

00:24:02.160 the innovators

00:24:02.940 will go to

00:24:03.420 places like

00:24:03.900 China

00:24:04.260 and then

00:24:05.820 China will

00:24:07.140 send us

00:24:07.680 Chinese

00:24:07.960 technology

00:24:08.500 and you

00:24:08.800 don't want

00:24:09.060 Chinese

00:24:09.340 technology

00:24:09.900 on a

00:24:10.480 autonomous

00:24:11.420 vehicle

00:24:11.920 in your

00:24:12.860 drones

00:24:13.260 or in your

00:24:13.660 Evitols

00:24:14.060 they'll gather

00:24:14.560 a ton of

00:24:14.960 information

00:24:15.340 it's a

00:24:15.700 national

00:24:16.000 security

00:24:16.440 play

00:24:16.740 so we

00:24:17.460 have to

00:24:17.640 get it

00:24:17.880 just

00:24:18.200 right

00:24:18.620 the porridge

00:24:19.560 has to be

00:24:19.980 just right

00:24:20.560 and that's

00:24:21.860 what we're

00:24:22.040 trying to

00:24:22.280 accomplish

00:24:22.560 now

00:24:22.760 but you're

00:24:23.000 going to

00:24:23.120 see these

00:24:23.540 in the next

00:24:24.140 three years

00:24:24.580 you're going

00:24:25.720 to have

00:24:25.860 access to

00:24:26.340 all of

00:24:26.820 these

00:24:27.180 new

00:24:29.340 opportunities

00:24:29.800 in aviation

00:24:30.320 and in

00:24:30.860 autonomous

00:24:31.400 vehicles

00:24:31.660 one last

00:24:32.160 thing

00:24:32.300 boom

00:24:32.540 technology

00:24:33.120 for

00:24:34.380 supersonic

00:24:34.940 flight

00:24:35.400 it used

00:24:36.320 to be

00:24:36.500 just water

00:24:37.420 technology

00:24:38.340 now will

00:24:38.860 allow you

00:24:39.240 to fly

00:24:39.600 over land

00:24:40.260 and that

00:24:41.420 boom

00:24:41.960 will ricochet

00:24:42.520 off the

00:24:43.220 atmosphere

00:24:43.640 and not

00:24:44.060 hit the

00:24:44.360 ground

00:24:44.620 so you

00:24:45.040 can have

00:24:45.460 those

00:24:45.660 fast

00:24:45.960 flights

00:24:46.340 without

00:24:47.100 having

00:24:47.620 windows

00:24:48.220 break

00:24:48.600 somewhere

00:24:49.600 in

00:24:49.840 Missouri

00:24:50.180 that's

00:24:51.500 super

00:24:51.740 interesting

00:24:52.080 too

00:24:52.340 because

00:24:52.600 I've

00:24:52.860 been

00:24:52.980 seeing

00:24:53.340 that

00:24:53.740 people

00:24:54.620 remember

00:24:55.100 the

00:24:55.300 Concorde

00:24:55.860 and how

00:24:56.620 quickly

00:24:56.920 you could

00:24:57.400 go from

00:24:58.000 the east

00:24:58.400 coast

00:24:58.660 to Europe

00:24:59.140 and four

00:24:59.920 hours

00:25:00.280 five hours

00:25:00.840 best case

00:25:01.340 now this

00:25:02.120 new boom

00:25:02.540 technology

00:25:03.120 that you're

00:25:03.480 talking about

00:25:04.060 I've been

00:25:04.340 reading about

00:25:04.920 it

00:25:05.100 it would

00:25:05.660 theoretically

00:25:06.180 could

00:25:06.800 become

00:25:07.160 standard

00:25:07.600 in the

00:25:07.880 next

00:25:08.080 generation

00:25:08.600 where you

00:25:09.100 could

00:25:09.280 get to

00:25:09.760 Europe

00:25:10.120 you could

00:25:10.420 fly

00:25:10.620 across

00:25:10.860 the Atlantic

00:25:11.360 in four

00:25:11.840 hours

00:25:12.260 and it

00:25:12.560 could

00:25:12.700 become

00:25:13.160 much more

00:25:13.920 standard

00:25:14.280 one

00:25:14.600 question

00:25:15.240 for you

00:25:15.760 as you

00:25:16.020 go out

00:25:16.560 we appreciate

00:25:17.000 the time

00:25:17.400 Department

00:25:17.720 of

00:25:17.840 Transportation

00:25:18.400 Secretary

00:25:19.380 Sean Duffy

00:25:20.220 with us

00:25:20.740 air traffic

00:25:22.080 controllers

00:25:22.580 there are

00:25:23.940 there have

00:25:24.820 been a huge

00:25:25.300 story

00:25:25.680 surrounding

00:25:26.200 the number

00:25:26.740 of them

00:25:27.260 meritocracy

00:25:28.160 the talents

00:25:29.020 of them

00:25:29.460 we got a ton

00:25:30.420 of people

00:25:30.720 out there

00:25:31.040 listening right

00:25:31.620 now

00:25:31.940 kids

00:25:32.380 grandkids

00:25:33.180 how many

00:25:33.860 more air

00:25:34.300 traffic

00:25:34.600 controllers

00:25:35.160 do we

00:25:35.680 need

00:25:36.080 what

00:25:36.520 should

00:25:36.920 people

00:25:37.360 out

00:25:37.720 there

00:25:37.920 who

00:25:38.080 are

00:25:38.280 interested

00:25:38.740 in

00:25:38.940 these

00:25:39.120 jobs

00:25:39.440 and

00:25:39.600 believe

00:25:39.840 they

00:25:40.000 have

00:25:40.160 the

00:25:40.300 talents

00:25:40.660 be

00:25:40.900 doing

00:25:41.320 and how

00:25:41.980 do we

00:25:42.220 get to

00:25:42.500 the point

00:25:42.840 where

00:25:43.200 we have

00:25:43.940 a depth

00:25:44.420 so if

00:25:44.800 we get

00:25:45.120 guys who

00:25:45.700 are sick

00:25:46.180 or gals

00:25:46.640 who are

00:25:46.940 sick

00:25:47.220 we don't

00:25:47.720 have to

00:25:48.020 worry

00:25:48.300 about

00:25:48.680 different

00:25:49.280 airport

00:25:49.780 air traffic

00:25:50.560 areas

00:25:51.080 being shut

00:25:51.660 down

00:25:52.040 which

00:25:52.480 discombobulates

00:25:53.480 obviously

00:25:53.880 travel

00:25:54.280 nationwide

00:25:54.900 so give

00:25:56.200 or take

00:25:56.500 I'm about

00:25:56.820 2,000

00:25:57.460 short

00:25:57.840 I have

00:25:59.120 increased

00:25:59.620 the capacity

00:26:00.240 of throughput

00:26:03.180 controllers by 20%

00:26:04.280 this year

00:26:05.000 I've asked

00:26:06.180 experienced

00:26:06.640 controllers not

00:26:07.420 to retire

00:26:07.920 I'm paying

00:26:08.380 them 20%

00:26:09.380 up front

00:26:10.320 cash bonuses

00:26:11.020 to not retire

00:26:11.740 to stay on the

00:26:12.260 job

00:26:12.540 to try to

00:26:13.420 close that

00:26:14.860 gap

00:26:15.240 but if

00:26:15.940 you're 20

00:26:17.100 years old

00:26:17.540 you have 2

00:26:17.940 years of work

00:26:18.420 experience

00:26:18.920 and you want

00:26:19.760 to be an air

00:26:20.080 traffic controller

00:26:20.700 you're smart

00:26:21.400 you can take

00:26:22.240 our entrance

00:26:22.700 exam

00:26:23.100 and again

00:26:23.560 sometimes

00:26:24.280 if you're

00:26:24.980 a painter

00:26:25.400 if you're

00:26:25.960 a mechanic

00:26:26.440 there's no rhyme

00:26:27.880 or reason

00:26:28.200 of what makes

00:26:29.260 a good air

00:26:29.700 traffic controller

00:26:30.400 but we test

00:26:31.100 you for it

00:26:31.580 you come in

00:26:32.600 our academy

00:26:33.080 is 4 months

00:26:33.840 you come out

00:26:35.020 depending on

00:26:35.460 where you're placed

00:26:36.060 it could take

00:26:36.600 a year

00:26:37.100 to 3 years

00:26:37.800 to get certified

00:26:38.400 but these guys

00:26:39.560 are making

00:26:39.900 really good money

00:26:40.980 and doing a

00:26:42.480 really important

00:26:43.080 service to the

00:26:43.820 country

00:26:44.020 so we're looking

00:26:44.480 for smart

00:26:45.080 young men

00:26:45.600 and women

00:26:45.940 that want

00:26:46.720 to come

00:26:47.000 into this

00:26:47.500 industry

00:26:48.680 and again

00:26:49.700 it pays

00:26:50.960 well

00:26:51.360 and you're

00:26:53.040 providing

00:26:53.720 the safety

00:26:54.360 of the

00:26:54.840 traveling public

00:26:55.380 so we have

00:26:56.280 a plan

00:26:56.620 to close

00:26:57.440 the gap

00:26:57.940 technology

00:26:58.760 can help

00:26:59.300 us too

00:26:59.700 but you saw

00:27:01.080 what happened

00:27:01.420 during the

00:27:01.700 shutdown

00:27:01.980 and you

00:27:02.760 had air

00:27:03.060 traffic controllers

00:27:03.660 that weren't

00:27:04.000 being paid

00:27:04.520 and they were

00:27:05.780 having some

00:27:06.340 hard times

00:27:06.740 putting food

00:27:07.160 on their

00:27:07.340 table

00:27:07.600 they were

00:27:07.960 driving Uber

00:27:09.700 and waiting

00:27:10.060 tables

00:27:10.580 you can't

00:27:11.540 have that

00:27:12.040 so we have

00:27:13.280 to think

00:27:13.620 through

00:27:13.960 hard problems

00:27:15.280 that the

00:27:15.640 last administration

00:27:16.480 didn't want

00:27:17.360 to take up

00:27:17.980 they didn't

00:27:18.300 want to

00:27:18.560 consider

00:27:18.960 there's no

00:27:20.080 hard problem

00:27:20.800 in this

00:27:21.460 department

00:27:21.860 that we

00:27:22.340 aren't

00:27:22.880 grappling

00:27:23.480 with

00:27:23.840 trying to

00:27:24.540 fix

00:27:24.840 and by

00:27:25.900 there's no

00:27:26.360 plan to

00:27:26.780 fix this

00:27:27.100 one

00:27:27.240 we are

00:27:27.600 fixing

00:27:27.900 this

00:27:28.220 and going

00:27:28.800 to make

00:27:29.020 it better

00:27:29.280 for the

00:27:29.520 American

00:27:29.720 people

00:27:30.140 Secretary

00:27:31.640 Duffy

00:27:32.020 look forward

00:27:32.420 to seeing

00:27:32.720 you tomorrow

00:27:33.160 should be

00:27:33.540 an awesome

00:27:33.940 event at

00:27:34.340 the Kennedy

00:27:34.700 Center

00:27:35.100 and appreciate

00:27:36.500 the good

00:27:36.780 work and

00:27:37.160 everybody out

00:27:37.700 there you

00:27:38.060 just heard

00:27:38.420 it there's

00:27:38.720 lots of

00:27:38.980 great jobs

00:27:39.460 air traffic

00:27:39.920 control

00:27:40.400 that you

00:27:41.160 can be

00:27:41.560 searching out

00:27:42.040 for those

00:27:42.320 kids and

00:27:42.640 grandkids

00:27:43.100 appreciate

00:27:43.400 you man

00:27:43.760 thanks

00:27:45.000 have a

00:27:45.480 good one

00:27:45.760 that is

00:27:47.360 Secretary of

00:27:48.060 Transportation

00:27:48.500 Sean Duffy

00:27:49.160 when we

00:27:49.800 come back

00:27:50.240 we'll unpack

00:27:51.040 a little bit

00:27:51.420 of what he

00:27:51.900 said also

00:27:52.420 update you

00:27:53.000 on the

00:27:53.360 FBI

00:27:53.800 and that

00:27:54.500 Venezuela

00:27:54.960 situation

00:27:55.720 with House

00:27:56.440 Majority

00:27:56.860 Leader Steve

00:27:57.480 Scalise

00:27:58.080 scheduled to

00:27:58.800 join us

00:27:59.220 at the

00:28:00.060 bottom

00:28:00.380 of the

00:28:01.180 hour

00:28:01.620 but I

00:28:01.900 want to

00:28:02.100 tell you

00:28:02.480 get those

00:28:03.320 pens ready

00:28:04.060 we've got

00:28:05.260 Thursday Night

00:28:05.900 Football

00:28:06.240 back underway

00:28:07.420 and I've got

00:28:08.840 a winner

00:28:09.180 for all of

00:28:09.940 you

00:28:10.160 George Pickens

00:28:10.960 more than

00:28:11.620 77 and a

00:28:12.640 half

00:28:12.880 receiving yards

00:28:13.900 Jameer Gibbs

00:28:14.900 more than

00:28:15.620 76 and a

00:28:17.040 half rushing

00:28:17.620 yards

00:28:18.020 Josh Allen

00:28:18.980 more than

00:28:19.640 228 and a

00:28:20.800 half passing

00:28:21.320 yards

00:28:21.680 Jamar Chase

00:28:22.360 more than

00:28:23.320 90 and a

00:28:23.940 half rushing

00:28:24.560 yards

00:28:24.940 that's Josh

00:28:25.580 Allen

00:28:25.880 Jamar Chase

00:28:26.560 Jameer Gibbs

00:28:27.240 George Pickens

00:28:28.020 all more

00:28:29.100 if we're right

00:28:30.020 on that

00:28:30.420 it pays out

00:28:31.020 at 5.5x

00:28:32.320 it makes

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00:28:39.240 in Texas

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00:28:46.380 five bucks

00:28:47.440 you get

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00:29:32.840 welcome back

00:29:33.380 in Clay

00:29:33.940 Travis

00:29:34.480 Buck Sexton

00:29:35.120 show rolling

00:29:36.060 through the

00:29:36.860 Thursday edition

00:29:37.500 of the program

00:29:38.240 we're back

00:29:39.260 to D.C.

00:29:40.160 to talk to

00:29:40.920 house majority

00:29:41.620 leader Steve

00:29:42.360 Scalise

00:29:42.880 we got a bunch

00:29:43.360 of topics

00:29:43.800 to hit

00:29:44.620 with him

00:29:45.220 but let's

00:29:45.640 start with

00:29:46.040 this we're

00:29:46.820 awaiting the

00:29:47.500 press conference

00:29:48.220 from the

00:29:48.900 FBI on

00:29:50.180 the arrest

00:29:50.800 of the

00:29:51.400 pipe bomber

00:29:52.080 in January

00:29:54.000 of 2021

00:29:55.820 you as we

00:29:57.760 were talking

00:29:58.140 about earlier

00:29:58.720 on the

00:29:59.260 program

00:29:59.800 congressmen

00:30:00.640 have seen

00:30:01.520 firsthand the

00:30:02.420 consequences

00:30:03.020 of political

00:30:04.020 violence and

00:30:04.920 unfortunately

00:30:05.400 the number

00:30:06.480 of political

00:30:07.240 related violence

00:30:08.480 issues seem

00:30:09.840 like they are

00:30:10.440 accelerating

00:30:11.200 is that the

00:30:12.580 sense that

00:30:13.140 you have

00:30:13.880 and

00:30:14.400 how would

00:30:16.460 you assess

00:30:17.180 where we

00:30:17.740 are right

00:30:18.220 now in

00:30:18.680 terms of

00:30:19.180 the temperature

00:30:19.600 the danger

00:30:20.220 and the

00:30:20.540 violence

00:30:21.040 that

00:30:21.480 unfortunately

00:30:22.640 it could

00:30:24.060 typifies too

00:30:24.800 much of our

00:30:25.220 conversation

00:30:25.800 it feels like

00:30:26.400 politically

00:30:26.780 today

00:30:27.240 yeah well

00:30:28.840 first Clay

00:30:29.720 and Buck

00:30:30.080 thank you

00:30:30.420 for having

00:30:30.900 me

00:30:31.240 and you

00:30:32.320 know it's

00:30:32.780 sad to

00:30:33.280 see that

00:30:33.940 politics

00:30:35.020 today has

00:30:35.620 gotten so

00:30:36.280 toxic in

00:30:37.080 terms of

00:30:37.500 you know we

00:30:38.500 all have

00:30:39.060 disagreements

00:30:39.780 and I mean

00:30:40.100 our country

00:30:40.620 has always

00:30:41.140 celebrated the

00:30:42.400 fact that we

00:30:42.900 don't all think

00:30:43.460 alike and we

00:30:44.040 can express

00:30:44.560 those differences

00:30:45.340 in a free

00:30:46.380 and open

00:30:46.720 society and

00:30:47.680 you know what

00:30:48.100 if you and I

00:30:48.600 disagree you

00:30:49.600 can vote against

00:30:50.360 me at the

00:30:51.320 ballot every

00:30:51.860 two years we

00:30:52.600 settle our

00:30:53.120 differences at

00:30:53.700 the ballot box

00:30:54.480 and for anybody

00:30:55.600 to think that

00:30:56.120 political violence

00:30:57.220 is okay it's

00:30:58.580 not and yes

00:30:59.920 I've seen it

00:31:00.480 firsthand you

00:31:02.020 know we still

00:31:02.460 see it more

00:31:03.120 and more lately

00:31:04.100 and it's got to

00:31:05.020 stop I mean

00:31:05.820 you know Charlie

00:31:06.720 Kurt's assassination

00:31:07.700 you know was

00:31:08.880 just another

00:31:09.500 example but it's

00:31:10.820 far from an

00:31:11.460 isolated case and

00:31:12.780 you know the

00:31:13.520 pipe bombing I

00:31:14.240 mean it's sad

00:31:14.920 that it took

00:31:15.420 this long I

00:31:16.660 mean it took

00:31:17.000 years to figure

00:31:18.220 it out but I'm

00:31:18.720 glad I applaud

00:31:19.400 the FBI for

00:31:20.220 staying on the

00:31:20.920 case and for

00:31:21.960 finally you know

00:31:23.060 making an arrest

00:31:23.820 because you know

00:31:24.900 he intended luckily

00:31:25.840 wasn't successful

00:31:26.780 but he intended to

00:31:27.540 blow up a building

00:31:28.360 I mean this is

00:31:29.100 insane

00:31:29.640 Congress and

00:31:32.040 Scalise appreciate

00:31:32.580 you being with us

00:31:33.440 here what are

00:31:34.180 some of the key

00:31:35.240 things that you

00:31:36.180 think can get

00:31:36.980 done before

00:31:38.240 Congress goes

00:31:38.980 into recess

00:31:39.640 what is your

00:31:40.960 what's your focus

00:31:41.800 as we're rounding

00:31:43.060 up here the end

00:31:43.800 of the year in

00:31:44.380 2025

00:31:44.780 yeah you know

00:31:46.960 as we're in the

00:31:47.620 beginning of

00:31:48.100 December still a

00:31:48.960 lot more we want

00:31:49.740 to do by the end

00:31:51.180 of this year and

00:31:51.880 just the next few

00:31:52.640 weeks you know

00:31:53.660 we're in the

00:31:54.260 middle of putting

00:31:55.360 together a bill

00:31:56.740 on health care

00:31:57.400 that'll lower

00:31:58.000 health care costs

00:31:59.240 for families you

00:32:00.400 know I was in a

00:32:00.960 meeting this morning

00:32:01.560 with the doctors

00:32:02.340 caucus we have a

00:32:03.300 caucus of medical

00:32:04.580 doctors who serve in

00:32:05.620 Congress who have

00:32:06.220 some great ideas I've

00:32:07.900 been meeting with

00:32:08.500 other members over

00:32:09.420 the last few weeks

00:32:10.380 and we've put

00:32:11.320 together a package

00:32:12.160 of bills and we're

00:32:12.940 going to ultimately

00:32:13.600 bring this to the

00:32:15.340 floor soon I don't

00:32:16.460 even know exactly

00:32:17.200 when in the next

00:32:17.860 probably two weeks

00:32:18.560 we're building

00:32:18.980 consensus and once

00:32:20.580 we have that

00:32:21.160 consensus you're

00:32:22.400 going to see a

00:32:22.900 series of bills

00:32:23.740 this month in

00:32:25.000 December on the

00:32:26.260 health floor to

00:32:27.240 lower health care

00:32:28.060 costs and I'm not

00:32:29.160 talking about just

00:32:29.860 shoveling hundreds of

00:32:30.880 billions more

00:32:31.500 dollars into the

00:32:32.840 Affordable Care Act

00:32:33.920 that has not been

00:32:34.740 working for families I

00:32:35.960 mean since that law

00:32:36.980 passed you know

00:32:38.400 what's known as

00:32:38.960 Obamacare you've

00:32:40.340 seen an increase in

00:32:41.620 premiums on families

00:32:42.660 by 80% so clearly

00:32:45.020 the Affordable Care

00:32:45.940 Act has been

00:32:46.460 anything but

00:32:47.080 affordable what we

00:32:48.420 want to do is give

00:32:49.000 families options you

00:32:50.580 know allow you to do

00:32:52.220 things like pooling

00:32:53.220 together association

00:32:54.420 health plans so that

00:32:56.000 small businesses can

00:32:57.080 pool together and get

00:32:58.520 the buying power of a

00:32:59.500 large company so that

00:33:00.600 those premiums cost a

00:33:02.280 lot less things like

00:33:04.100 health savings accounts

00:33:05.180 where you can even if

00:33:06.400 you're in an ACA plan

00:33:08.720 right now you're only

00:33:09.600 trapped in that plan

00:33:10.760 how about if we let

00:33:11.800 families have the

00:33:12.860 flexibility to where

00:33:14.200 you can take that

00:33:15.040 existing money and move

00:33:16.140 it to a plan that's

00:33:17.480 better for your family

00:33:18.420 if you find a plan that

00:33:19.500 has a lower deductible

00:33:21.040 cost a lower monthly

00:33:22.700 premium you should be

00:33:24.240 able to go and buy

00:33:25.080 that plan just like you

00:33:26.680 got you buy you know

00:33:27.520 you look on TV you've

00:33:28.440 got all these commercials

00:33:30.200 for car insurance and

00:33:31.680 other products that that

00:33:33.880 are fighting for your

00:33:34.820 dollar because there's

00:33:36.300 competition right now in

00:33:37.520 health insurance you

00:33:38.220 don't have competition

00:33:39.320 because the marketplace

00:33:40.720 is really focused on

00:33:42.040 forcing everybody into

00:33:44.040 the unaffordable care

00:33:45.200 act we want to make

00:33:46.580 that more flexible so

00:33:47.680 families have options

00:33:48.840 to lower their premiums

00:33:50.420 and we'll be bringing

00:33:50.960 those bills to the floor

00:33:52.100 in the next few weeks

00:33:53.740 by the way press

00:33:55.560 conference has started

00:33:56.560 with the FBI we are

00:33:57.880 monitoring it attorney

00:33:59.080 general Pam Bondi

00:34:00.180 addressing the arrest

00:34:01.840 right now and by the

00:34:04.540 way there are other

00:34:05.040 there are a lot of

00:34:05.600 other bills I'm sorry

00:34:06.420 to jump in again but

00:34:08.180 you did ask a broader

00:34:09.200 question about what are

00:34:10.360 we doing the rest of

00:34:11.060 this month that's one

00:34:12.400 important package we're

00:34:14.120 going to be bringing

00:34:14.620 we're bringing a number

00:34:16.000 of other bills we've got

00:34:16.940 some housing affordability

00:34:18.300 bills that are going to

00:34:19.400 be going through committee

00:34:20.340 next week and the

00:34:22.140 financial services

00:34:22.940 committee that come into

00:34:23.800 the house floor we this

00:34:25.960 month probably we've got

00:34:27.520 some other bills that are

00:34:28.460 focused on lowering costs

00:34:29.560 in other areas we've done a

00:34:30.760 lot on energy production

00:34:32.000 on taxes so that nobody

00:34:33.980 has tax increases but we

00:34:36.240 also help no tax on tips

00:34:38.080 no tax on overtime so a

00:34:40.180 lot of blue-collar workers

00:34:41.400 are going to be able to

00:34:42.040 get really big benefits in

00:34:43.660 terms of more money in

00:34:44.980 their paychecks you know

00:34:46.440 we're working on other

00:34:47.380 things that will lower

00:34:48.140 inflation lowering interest

00:34:49.980 rates you know so we're

00:34:51.300 bringing bills on all of

00:34:52.480 those fronts in addition to

00:34:53.800 the normal appropriations

00:34:55.180 process we're bringing

00:34:56.540 what's called the national

00:34:57.660 defense authorization act

00:34:59.240 hopefully next week the

00:35:00.820 bill that sets all the

00:35:01.720 priorities for our nation's

00:35:02.920 defense very important

00:35:04.140 bill usually a very

00:35:05.500 bipartisan bill hopefully

00:35:07.260 that's going to be on the

00:35:08.080 floor next week so we're

00:35:09.720 doing a lot of different

00:35:10.660 things all at the same

00:35:11.660 time but really important

00:35:12.840 things for families

00:35:13.760 Pam Bondi by the way this

00:35:15.820 cold case languished four

00:35:17.360 years until director Patel

00:35:19.060 and deputy director Bongino

00:35:20.460 came to the FBI no new

00:35:22.000 tips no new witnesses just

00:35:23.500 good diligent work that is

00:35:25.160 attorney general Pam Bondi

00:35:26.280 on the pipe bomber arrest

00:35:27.920 last question for you I

00:35:29.440 know congressman there was

00:35:31.420 hope that there was going

00:35:32.200 to be a score act passed as

00:35:34.100 it had to do with college

00:35:36.360 athletics that has now been

00:35:37.940 shelved as it's continuing to

00:35:39.540 be worked on you are in

00:35:41.440 Louisiana congrats on Lane

00:35:43.020 Kiffin for people out there

00:35:44.760 and a huge majority of our

00:35:45.940 audience is this our college

00:35:48.280 sports fans what are you guys

00:35:49.740 trying to do and what's the

00:35:50.960 latest you can tell us on

00:35:52.260 that act yeah and I still want

00:35:54.740 to see us bring this bill to

00:35:55.900 the floor because it's

00:35:56.720 important to anybody who

00:35:58.200 loves college athletics you

00:35:59.700 know me included I know you

00:36:01.000 do in many people millions

00:36:04.100 around the country we have

00:36:05.700 seen over the last few years

00:36:07.680 it's become the wild wild

00:36:08.860 west and why is that it's

00:36:10.980 because through a lot of

00:36:12.220 things lawsuits that the NCAA

00:36:14.560 is lost and other things there

00:36:16.340 is no ability for schools to

00:36:18.400 enforce their own rules

00:36:19.520 anymore you know and whether

00:36:21.040 they come together and get

00:36:22.360 behind the NCAA or some other

00:36:23.880 organization that's not what

00:36:25.980 Congress is dictating what

00:36:27.220 Congress is going to try to

00:36:28.460 do is say hey the schools can

00:36:30.900 actually go and enforce their

00:36:33.700 own rules again in college

00:36:35.120 athletics and oh by the way we

00:36:37.120 also in the SCORE Act put in

00:36:38.640 protections for student

00:36:40.560 athletes that don't exist today

00:36:42.280 you know whether or not students

00:36:43.860 get paid that issue has already

00:36:45.620 been decided but right now there

00:36:48.260 are no real protections for the

00:36:49.960 students who are getting paid for

00:36:51.400 example agents you've got kids

00:36:53.240 16 17 years old in high school

00:36:55.820 getting approached by agents with

00:36:57.200 contracts that they I'm sure

00:36:59.120 they're not getting teams of

00:37:00.340 attorneys to read they might be

00:37:02.280 signing their rights away for 10

00:37:03.760 years when they sign some deal in

00:37:06.220 high school we put guardrails

00:37:09.240 there so that the students get real

00:37:11.080 protections so that it limits how

00:37:13.840 much an agent can even get in fees

00:37:15.820 from the student athlete we protect

00:37:18.640 the Olympic sports the US Olympic

00:37:20.540 Committee just came out in support

00:37:22.660 of this bill the SCORE Act because

00:37:24.880 it does protect Olympic sports and

00:37:27.000 other you know women's sports you

00:37:29.320 know title nine sports for example so

00:37:31.240 it won't just be football and

00:37:32.980 basketball at every college you're

00:37:34.520 going to be able to have an array of

00:37:36.760 men's and women's sports that are some

00:37:40.280 make money a lot of them lose money but

00:37:42.720 you're going to be able to have those

00:37:43.900 protections in place at schools as

00:37:46.480 well so it's an important bill that a

00:37:48.660 lot of universities across the

00:37:50.340 country have asked for again not

00:37:53.040 Congress policing college athletics

00:37:55.900 but Congress passing a law to just

00:37:58.440 undo all of these bad lawsuits that

00:38:00.340 have been lost over years and years so

00:38:02.540 that college athletics can be governed

00:38:04.640 again you know a portal where every

00:38:07.160 year kid can transfer and somebody can

00:38:08.880 play for six years for five different

00:38:10.660 schools and oh by the way they're

00:38:12.760 supposed to be getting an education

00:38:13.940 but they can't even transfer their

00:38:15.280 credit because it's gotten so

00:38:17.100 ridiculous that can get reined in as

00:38:19.780 well and I think everybody wants some

00:38:21.440 structure back in place

00:38:22.660 thank you Congressman Steve Scalise

00:38:25.360 look forward to seeing you again

00:38:27.020 having you again on soon keep up the

00:38:28.560 good work

00:38:28.940 hey we're going to keep getting it

00:38:31.120 done but we're going to deliver a lot

00:38:32.480 of good things for the American

00:38:33.380 people

00:38:33.800 thank you for having me Clay Buck

00:38:35.540 no doubt look I want to we'll

00:38:38.180 monitor and we're continuing with the

00:38:39.880 FBI press conference we may go to it

00:38:41.900 live when we come back out of the next

00:38:44.080 break we'll certainly have cuts for you

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00:40:29.440 welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton

00:40:33.780 show appreciate all of you hanging out

00:40:36.660 with us Buck had to bounce I've got you

00:40:39.500 the rest of the way Julie Kelly joins me

00:40:42.980 now Julie I don't know anybody who has

00:40:45.680 covered Jan 6 better more significantly

00:40:48.740 or more regularly than you have you've

00:40:52.820 been coming on with us for years this

00:40:55.820 pipe bomber we've talked about you some

00:40:57.880 on this related incident for years in

00:41:00.940 the past and I just want to start before

00:41:02.560 we dive into the specifics with you

00:41:04.240 if you truly believed that as the Biden

00:41:08.840 administration told us they did that

00:41:11.040 Jan 6 then surrounding days was

00:41:13.820 basically the worst threat to the

00:41:15.840 country since the Civil War the alleged

00:41:19.620 pipe bombs would be the most violent of

00:41:23.540 all of the protests that were surrounding

00:41:26.140 that day in terms of what they could

00:41:28.020 have occurred if they had exploded

00:41:30.300 wouldn't you have made that your number

00:41:32.580 one focus of investigation why do you

00:41:36.000 think it was not the number one focus

00:41:38.800 because clearly it was not of the Biden

00:41:40.800 DOJ

00:41:41.480 hey Clay I'm sorry you broke up that very

00:41:45.300 first part there but um why this was not

00:41:49.360 not only not focus of their investigation

00:41:52.260 this was a very vigorous investigation

00:41:54.720 early on through January February 2021

00:41:57.540 then all of a sudden it disappeared yeah

00:42:00.160 and that really is the takeaway that's

00:42:02.260 the scandal about this arrest today not

00:42:04.820 necessarily that the suspect is in

00:42:07.380 custody and now they just posted the

00:42:09.540 complaint so I'm going to be looking

00:42:11.520 through that but why Chris Ray's DOJ

00:42:14.940 Joe Biden's Department of Justice

00:42:17.900 completely dropped this matter and we have

00:42:22.040 to believe at this point some of the

00:42:23.400 reporting indicating that this individual

00:42:25.360 who was 25 or 26 at the time was linked

00:42:29.240 to anti-fuck or that anti-fascist movement

00:42:32.640 and was not a MAGA person as we were told

00:42:35.820 for years

00:42:36.740 so what do you think actually um what do

00:42:41.960 you think actually has happened here and

00:42:43.520 you said the complaint has just been posted

00:42:45.660 Dan Bongino, Kash Patel, Pam Bondi they had a big

00:42:49.580 press conference we've played some cuts from

00:42:51.680 that I'm scrolling through Twitter right now

00:42:54.100 trying to see uh if I can see that complaint as

00:42:57.580 you were just talking about as well um uh what

00:43:01.280 exactly has been alleged here um but the

00:43:05.200 arrest this uh Brian uh well let me uh let me play

00:43:08.940 for you Julie and let you react to this this was

00:43:11.140 Dan Bongino uh describing the moment they were

00:43:13.960 able to solve the case and his reaction cut 35

00:43:16.880 was there a particular moment where the evidence is coming in

00:43:21.920 and it's starting to look like progress is being made

00:43:25.020 which what was the moment that you knew

00:43:27.480 that you were on the road to solving the case

00:43:31.360 I was smiling at you because I certainly remember the moment

00:43:38.620 Darren remembers it too he said are you sitting down

00:43:42.100 called me on the phone I said oh boy why is this bad news

00:43:45.680 and he said I think we got him um what exactly that tip was I

00:43:51.940 we're gonna have to pass on that for right now while we're still there's

00:43:56.520 obviously we're in the prologue of a long book uh this is just the beginning

00:44:00.520 this is not the end of the investigation as you all well know

00:44:03.560 haven't reported on these for a long time there's

00:44:05.660 interviews to be conducted the search warrant processing scene is not even done

00:44:09.820 okay um the affidavit is up Julie on uh the criminal complaint

00:44:16.920 I I've just seen images of this guy start to circulate

00:44:21.580 he is a young black man uh Brian Cole Jr.

00:44:25.900 um and uh the indications that he is a diehard Trump supporter

00:44:32.780 or that he would have been an insurrectionist seems quite clearly not to be true

00:44:39.500 uh and again I'm reading through with this affidavit right now

00:44:43.560 um what I think this has the potential so let me take a step back because we're

00:44:49.880 analyzing this in real time this has the potential to change in many ways the

00:44:55.720 narrative surrounding Jan 6 itself if instead of a crazed uh group of Trump

00:45:02.080 terrorists uh there were also individuals here who are uh you know this

00:45:08.220 individual uh is maybe just a left-wing radical

00:45:12.960 that was also involved in this that really kind of changes the

00:45:16.840 oh these are crazy white supremacist Trump supporters narrative doesn't it

00:45:21.020 doesn't it challenge things it definitely does Clay and that's why

00:45:24.600 and I was saying this earlier in interviews this morning before we even knew

00:45:28.760 you know the individual's name but there was some reporting that he

00:45:32.340 was tied to Antifa is that that explains why the investigation was dropped

00:45:38.940 because it completely contradicted what FBI director Christopher Wray and I will

00:45:45.000 be posting these clips shortly on x doing underscore Kelly to Christopher Wray's

00:45:50.800 insistence that Antifa played no role in the events of January 6th now he was

00:45:57.060 saying this as early as March of 2021 when he designated January 6th an act of

00:46:02.760 domestic terrorism but he was insistent that no one from Antifa was involved

00:46:08.420 there was no way for him to know that Clay but because you had the president

00:46:13.200 because you had people who were there on January 6th who can who were saying that

00:46:18.720 they saw Antifa there they saw Antifa getting out of buses we also have right now

00:46:26.040 finally I think it was discovered last year or in 2023 undercover DC metro police

00:46:31.880 officers arriving at Capitol grounds telling people that they were there to find

00:46:37.280 Antifa so this would have been not just decimated the entire January 6th

00:46:43.500 insurrection narrative but also contradicted Chris Wray because he was desperate to

00:46:49.040 help develop this insurrection narrative and use it against the president and the

00:46:53.180 MAGA movement so we have a much bigger scandal on our hands rather than just

00:46:57.980 taking a man into custody who was on the scene on that video on January 5th

00:47:04.420 this is a huge cover-up on a massive scale of Chris Wray's FBI and Joe Biden

00:47:11.580 Mayor Garland's Department of Justice keeping this from the American people

00:47:15.820 keeping it out of legal proceedings J6 defendants could have used something like

00:47:21.000 this as exculpatory evidence because you had judges calling this an insurrection

00:47:25.540 incited by the president so there are a lot of consequences legal ramifications

00:47:31.560 of what Chris Wray's cover-up is that is indeed the fact of this individual who

00:47:38.960 planted the pipe bombs and then prompted the first week of panic and even

00:47:42.920 evacuations that day right as the joint session was convening at 1 o'clock

00:47:46.660 all right let me read this is the court's tran let me see I want to make sure I

00:47:52.640 get the official because my producer this is the affidavit in support of the

00:47:57.360 criminal complaint that has been filed and released and I'm reading through it

00:48:03.300 live with you right now Cole lives in a single-family house with his mother and

00:48:08.240 other family members he is 30 years old resident of Woodbridge Virginia the

00:48:15.240 evidence laid out here Julie and I'm reading this in real time the FBI has

00:48:19.640 identified one bank checking account six credit cards used by Cole to they

00:48:25.900 allege purchase multiple items consistent with the components used to manufacture

00:48:30.700 the pipe bombs and they say that he bought these things in a physical retail

00:48:37.700 locations in northern Virginia and then it runs through the specifics of exactly what

00:48:44.260 was included in these pipe bombs and where they were able to find and trace the

00:48:51.260 purchases at home home depot they then say that they were and this is very detailed

00:48:58.600 about the things that were purchased that they believe were directly used in the

00:49:03.460 pipe bomb that they were able to to analyze they also then say that since at least as

00:49:10.800 early as January 5 2021 they have identified his cell phone number and they have been able

00:49:17.780 to obtain historical cell site records located in the immediate vicinity of the RNC and the

00:49:25.160 DNC at the time at which the bomb was placed and these are cell phone towers location data

00:49:32.560 records obtained and again I'm reading from this in real time from the cell phone provider provide

00:49:38.160 service to Cole's cell phone show that he was in the area and that they are able let's see

00:49:46.060 the particular sector that engaged and basically that he was there during the time that they

00:49:53.840 believe that these pipe bombs were actually placed so again I'm reading in real time the specific

00:50:03.020 pinging you may or may not have this in front of you Julie this will be ultimately for a court to

00:50:08.760 determine guilt or innocence but they have it appears him purchasing the items that were used to make

00:50:15.860 the pipe bomb with his credit card and then his cell phone being in the location where the pipe bomb was

00:50:23.160 placed on that night that is circumstantial they obviously have video footage of an individual as well

00:50:29.040 he's covered up he fits the height size uh maybe they'll be able to find some of these clothes I

00:50:34.920 don't know uh but uh this is very detailed it was not discussed at the press conference so your reaction

00:50:42.520 to uh to some of this obviously is it's coming down in real time right so this does appear to confirm

00:50:50.340 that the FBI has the right person in custody so that's that's a good sign we don't want you know

00:50:58.720 a rush to judgment here and that does not appear to be the case but what was said during the press

00:51:04.560 conference today and I would have liked to have seen a lot more details on the suspect and where

00:51:10.000 this investigation is headed and the cover-up apparently by Chris Ray's FBI rather than sort of

00:51:16.340 you know this teamwork um uh performance that we got instead um so this this affidavit this

00:51:23.820 complaint will be helpful in giving putting some more meat on the bone but Clay what was said during

00:51:29.200 the press conference is very important this discovery identifying the suspect was not based on new

00:51:35.560 information or evidence yeah right they were working off what they already had just putting new

00:51:40.680 investigators fresh pairs of eyes on this which means that the Ray FBI has had had that for years

00:51:48.080 so this was an intentional decision by someone whether it was Chris Ray whether it was Steven

00:51:53.680 Dan Tuano who was the DC uh FBI chief at the time overseeing the pipe bomb investigation

00:52:00.880 so someone or somebody made the conscious choice not to pursue this but to pretend at the same time

00:52:08.560 that the FBI actually was looking for this person so um you know as I said there are big ramifications

00:52:15.860 for this and I hope that we hear more from the FBI and the DOJ about what they had when they had it

00:52:22.340 the fingerprints all over that information early on and then he made the decision to shut the whole

00:52:29.420 thing down yes Julie we appreciate the time again this is a breaking news story I know you're going to

00:52:35.860 have a crazy day uh we're trying to make sense of it all but I think certainly the idea that this was

00:52:41.760 a white supremacist led revolt against the United States government would be challenged if the most

00:52:48.660 violent alleged perpetrator was a young black man connected to Antifa as the uh details seem to suggest

00:52:56.780 he was um based on the uh based on the information that is coming out here so uh right put yourself

00:53:04.440 put put us back to April of 2021 let's say that Chris Ray does announce this arrest of this individual

00:53:10.320 and he's a young black man no ties to MAGA but has ties to Antifa there would be no January 6th

00:53:17.900 insurrection narrative it would have been over yeah they could not allow that to happen and this is a

00:53:23.540 scandal of massive proportion and that should be the biggest takeaway today and then I think Julie

00:53:30.520 to build on top of that a lot of people are going to start to say okay what motivated this 25 year old

00:53:37.300 at that point in time to decide to do this and then he vanishes for five years and doesn't do anything

00:53:44.280 else and he's living at his parents house in northern Virginia and we suddenly find him like

00:53:48.540 what is his back it just there are an awful lot of lone wolves it seem who engage and I'm using

00:53:55.780 quotation marks for those watching on video who engage in acts of violence that we hear oh well

00:54:00.840 they had no connection to anyone else isn't it kind of suspicious how often that seems to happen

00:54:06.160 it is happening more often and I think that this is something that that FBI that cash and ban are going

00:54:13.120 to have to address straight on I mean if we are expected to believe that this individual did this

00:54:18.660 on his own we could see him on a phone we can see him using his glasses to like peer for an address

00:54:25.060 we can see him retracing his steps this was not a sophisticated you know operation that this kid did

00:54:32.120 on his own who was he working at his behest and then Clay like you and I and you Buck and I have talked

00:54:39.120 about for years the very suspicious surroundings of um related to the discovery at the RNC and the DNC

00:54:46.960 I still believe that something more nefarious happened in that timeline that day on January 6th

00:54:55.160 right before those discoveries than what happened with this individual who was arrested today

00:55:00.760 well remember I mean there's that video of Kamala Harris supposedly an incredible danger coming within

00:55:06.540 what a few feet of the alleged pipe bomb and nobody notices it and it didn't turn into a huge story

00:55:13.040 I think you've talked about this in the past uh when you know you're about to be elected as vice

00:55:18.460 president and there's a pipe bomb in close proximity to you and nobody seems to be concerned about it

00:55:23.380 anyway there's a lot here um and I appreciate you coming on and I think a lot of this is going to

00:55:28.240 continue uh to be uh explained and uh to be unraveled um as we go forward so that there's more sense to

00:55:36.840 be made here but we appreciate the time and thank you for everything that you've been doing on these

00:55:40.020 cases you too Clay talk to you soon thanks that's Julie Kelly uh I'll try to get to a couple of your

00:55:45.620 calls when we come back because again I'm trying to read this affidavit in real time um and analyze it

00:55:51.740 as uh you know major breaking news and again at a minimum this is destructive to the narrative

00:55:58.920 of Jan 6th in a seismic way that now a young black man who appears to have been of left-wing uh uh ideology

00:56:07.460 is arrested as the foremost violent actor of the Jan 6th window um it's just big news it is huge news

00:56:17.620 and they couldn't find this guy for five years Biden had four years when they were dragging grandmas

00:56:24.460 out of their house when they were looking for everyone on Jan 6th and they couldn't find the guy

00:56:29.180 who was engaged in potentially the most uh heinous of the potential violent acts of anybody um again

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