Western Standard - August 27, 2026


Canada Is Afraid of This Debate | Why Canada Kept Martin Sellner Out


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00:00:00.000 i'm not terribly surprised that in the most canadian way possible you were denied entry
00:00:05.520 here so on behalf of canada sorry for that but um maybe a day will come when you're allowed to set
00:00:11.360 foot here i'll be back i'll be back i'll be back when it says people always start laughing because
00:00:18.320 they claim a town like arnold schwarzenegger that's the only thing i've in common with him
00:00:22.240 but i can tell you and that's also maybe a message you cannot stop an idea with a border an idea is
00:00:27.280 something spiritual and stronger than any border or chain it grows stronger when you beat it and
00:00:33.280 attack it and they will not be able to stop the remigration renaissance just like you cannot stop 0.58
00:00:40.240 spring by trampling down and cutting down flowers austrian re-migration uh activist and leader
00:01:09.840 Martin Sellner had been scheduled to speak at the Dominion Society's DomCom event in Ontario
00:01:19.280 this weekend. The Dominion Society, for those of you who don't know, is a Canadian nationalist
00:01:25.580 organization advocating for Canadian identity and demographic security, things like
00:01:33.760 re-migration. So some pretty spicy topics that a lot of the Canadian political establishment
00:01:40.480 are naturally fearful of. Martin Sellner is one of the leading voices in the Western and European
00:01:50.160 re-migration movement. He comes from Vienna, Austria, and he was to be brought in as one of
00:01:56.340 the keynote speakers. But he has, I'll let him explain it, but in a very Canadian way, he was
00:02:02.860 denied entry, more or less, into Canada to speak. Martin is joining me from an undisclosed location
00:02:10.740 somewhere in Europe right now. Thank you for joining me, Martin. Thanks for having me.
00:02:16.280 So I enjoyed your post. You seem to know more about Canadians than I would imagine the average
00:02:21.440 Austrian would. But you said that I've been denied entry into Canada in the most Canadian
00:02:26.700 way possible. And when you explained yourself, I thought, yeah, he seems to know what a very
00:02:33.020 Canadian way to deny someone entry into the country looks like. Why don't you just kind
00:02:37.440 of briefly explain what happened and why you've been denied entry into Canada?
00:02:41.860 So denial of entry in Canada, definitely, as you said, was a very Canadian way because in the UK,
00:02:46.660 they were at least very outspoken. They told me I'm a danger, a threat to the society. Same for
00:02:53.020 Germany, same for Switzerland, so I was able to fight this legally. But in Canada, I was just 0.76
00:02:57.500 hitting this Kafkaesque administrative maze. They just don't answer. They normally should answer
00:03:04.840 within 72 hours, but they just didn't come back to me. So I don't even have a refusal and I cannot
00:03:11.700 even fight the whole thing. But I think it's sad because I would have loved to come to speak at
00:03:17.560 the DomCom event. And at the moment, I'm hearing a lot of problems. They try to shut it down.
00:03:23.980 There's a huge front of the whole Vogue Canadian powerhouse to attack them. I'm just still rooting
00:03:31.100 and hoping for them that at least the event can take place in Canada with or without me.
00:03:35.560 Yeah. So you've submitted your documents a long time ago to apply to come in. And I think the
00:03:42.860 Canadian law is the government has 78 hours to let you know. Normally they let you know within 24
00:03:48.200 hours. I've actually never met a citizen of the EU who's really had any trouble getting into Canada.
00:03:53.920 It's a very, very easy thing. Anyone, any Canadian citizen who's traveled to say Germany or Austria
00:03:59.040 knows that it's, we don't even think about it. We just naturally assume we can go there. They're
00:04:03.420 supposed to give you an answer within 48 hours, normally 24, sorry, 78 hours, normally 24, but
00:04:10.000 they and sorry and how many hours was it that you applied in advance you you had listed that number
00:04:15.760 um i applied on the 21st of july so waiting one month more in advance so ample of time also to
00:04:23.040 give them more documentation i think um being invited as a speaker to an event with a clear
00:04:28.320 time frame is also the i would say it's a textbook case of a temporary state and um now it's more
00:04:35.280 More than 800 hours and counting where they just did not reply.
00:04:39.560 And I've been checking it every day, logging into this cumbersome Canadian visa app.
00:04:45.000 But yeah, they just did not reply.
00:04:47.200 Well, that's where you made the mistake.
00:04:49.120 You should know better. 1.00
00:04:49.980 You should have just asked for refugee status and you'd have no problem. 0.96
00:04:53.940 Next time you want to come to Canada, talk to me. 1.00
00:04:56.140 I'll show you how to do it. 1.00
00:04:57.700 You just show up unannounced, declare yourself a refugee. 0.97
00:05:00.900 Actually, you would actually have a better case for refugee status than most of our refugees.
00:05:05.720 You've been persecuted by EU governments, including your own government in Austria, denying your right to basic freedom of assembly and speech.
00:05:13.800 You've been arrested for activities that I think are considered pretty standard things to do for a free citizen.
00:05:22.560 You've been stopped from doing that in your home country and other countries in the EU of which you're an EU citizen.
00:05:27.160 And you'd actually have a better case for refugee status in Canada than most of the refugees we actually get. 0.90
00:05:31.900 I completely agree because, you know, I would not be an economic refugee. 0.92
00:05:35.880 I'm not just seeking a better life on the expense of Canadian taxpayers.
00:05:40.460 But I'm actually, like many, many others in Europe, being politically persecuted.
00:05:45.280 You mentioned arrests. Yeah, at house raids, a lot of trials, always been acquitted.
00:05:49.880 So this is a form of lawfare. I've now committed one illegal act, even under the thought crime regime of the European system.
00:05:56.580 i've always been acquitted but that's definitely amounts to political persecution i have more than
00:06:02.180 120 bank accounts who got cancelled i was denied an entry to germany switzerland but unfortunately
00:06:09.460 uk canada and also america to make it very hard to enter the five eyes countries i hope other people
00:06:15.060 who invited the conference are luckier than i am and i have to say it's just an act of cowardice
00:06:20.420 it's really not a sign of strength if you cannot bear the debate if you're so afraid of a harmless
00:06:27.860 austrian author and activist to travel to canada if you like i think there's this organization
00:06:32.740 name brief they even made this post where they say they need to protect the canadian citizens
00:06:36.900 from these harmful ideas it's kind of a nanny state it's crazy i think canadian citizens are
00:06:42.580 smart enough and grown up enough to decide for themselves whether they want to listen
00:06:46.980 to an austrian giving a speech a keynote speech at a conference yeah so let's talk about uh benai
00:06:53.540 breath here um it's obviously a sensitive topic for obvious reasons but you know benai breath
00:06:59.540 is an organization that purports at least to represent jewish canadians uh it's kind of the
00:07:04.500 sister organization to the adl in the states the anti-defamation which and their formal name is
00:07:09.060 actually the anti-defamation league of benai breath um they're kind of the sister organization
00:07:14.660 They're not entirely analogous, but pretty close. And they issued a statement demanding that the Canadian government refuse you entry into Canada, saying that, you know, this is racist and even anti-Semitic.
00:07:31.780 um I you know I I've read some of your works I've never seen a single mention even illusory 0.51
00:07:40.740 uh to Jewish people or Jewish issues um and uh you know the Dominion Society I follow them
00:07:47.940 relatively closely I have never seen them mention uh Jewish people or anything even illusory like
00:07:56.100 like not even indirectly at all. And so it was a very weird thing for Benai Brith to say.
00:08:04.340 I forget if it was you. I think it may have been Daniel Tyree. He's the head of Dominion Society
00:08:08.460 who invited you to speak here. I think it was him who said Benai Brith actually would have
00:08:14.440 no problem with what Martin Sellner and the Dominion Society are saying if it was limited to 1.00
00:08:20.480 simply islamic immigration which is obviously proven to be a very dangerous thing and uh in
00:08:26.560 at least some quarters for jewish canadians uh why why would benai breath uh issue a statement
00:08:36.300 like this singling you out demanding that you not be granted entry into canada i i it was a weird
00:08:41.840 thing for them to pop their head up in this debate i was also bewildered it was very weird as you
00:08:47.540 said um i think they mentioned me but also other speakers they now like charlie downs was also
00:08:52.480 invited they also tried to create a fake scandal about his alleged anti-semitism i think um this
00:08:58.300 is just like the standard accusation uh litany it's like homophobic anti-semitic extremist uh
00:09:05.220 whatsoever conspiracy theorist i can just um express what you said i have nothing against any
00:09:10.600 um people ethnic group i think it's completely fair that ethnic groups have their own interest
00:09:15.400 form their own interest groups i think it's just also fair that europeans do this as well and you
00:09:20.520 see this pattern very often not just with my group you have indian groups indian nationalists
00:09:25.800 mexican nationalists in the united states in germany you have turkish nationalists syrian
00:09:32.120 afghan nationalists and they're very very keen in representing their own tribal interests but
00:09:36.920 suddenly and only when european people or native european native people in europe um also try to
00:09:43.880 create their in groups and talk about demographic security their own interests then suddenly they're
00:09:48.600 being called xenophobic islamophobic uh racist and i invite all of these groups also my brief
00:09:55.560 to just have a normal conversation with us don't shut us down listen to arguments talk with us
00:10:00.760 we completely understand that you your groups your nations they have their own ethnic interest
00:10:06.040 and i want mexico i want japan i want all these countries to exist in the future and all these
00:10:11.000 people because as an ethno pluralist i believe um the real richness of the world lies in the
00:10:16.680 diversity of nations but the only thing we demand as europeans as white people is to also have our
00:10:23.080 own ethnocultural continuity and identity so i think it's a big misunderstanding maybe willful
00:10:28.600 misunderstanding slander but in the end and that's a great thing in the end i think they achieved the
00:10:33.400 complete opposite because if this domcom conference would have taken place even with charlie downs
00:10:38.600 and myself giving your keynotes would have been a nice event i would have been able to see the
00:10:42.680 landscape beauties of canada eating some poutine and nobody would really have cared but now it's
00:10:48.840 national news i think the dawn meeting society never had as much exposure and i think it will
00:10:54.200 just make people a bit more interested like what are they actually saying what is this guy actually
00:10:58.760 writing and i hope that canadian people are smart enough intelligent enough to go to the source and
00:11:04.120 really investigate what we're actually demanding and saying yeah i that's that's the thing that
00:11:09.960 these kinds of groups um in a diversity of groups representing a diver you know different kinds of
00:11:15.800 people's tribal interests uh and then you know kind of astroturf left-wing groups like the so-called
00:11:22.520 canadian anti-hate network they don't seem to understand is that by canceling people uh using
00:11:29.720 the power of the state or mob rule to stop people from merely speaking, you're actually
00:11:35.560 platforming them even more. I mean, this is not a new thing. We've seen it over and over.
00:11:40.300 No one would have ever heard of Jordan Peterson if people didn't try to cancel him because he 0.92
00:11:45.100 refused to use some silly made-up pronouns. He'd probably still be a relatively obscure professor
00:11:50.260 at the University of Toronto. Instead, they made him a global phenomenon. This happens over and
00:11:56.060 over and over so in many ways i think it's it's a victory probably for the dominion society and
00:12:01.900 you know for your message in canada that the canadian government has has done something like
00:12:06.140 this and it's i think you call it the streisand effect i think that's how it's called yes and
00:12:11.340 they still don't get it i think it's really it's really strange i have to say it's a bit of a pity
00:12:15.820 because i would love to just really get into an engaged dialogue and i think as again as i said
00:12:21.340 it's not a sign of sovereignty and of power because if they had better arguments they would
00:12:26.620 be eager to join the the conference i'm 100 sure as i know daniel and dominian society
00:12:32.620 if anybody of them reached out to them these so-called anti-hate groups or may brief and said
00:12:37.020 okay we have this is the best guy or debate champion we will send him to domcom at 26 and
00:12:43.020 we want him to debate your best guy would have said yes obviously would love to but they never
00:12:47.980 do this they always flee from the debate and then try to use the power of censorship of of of
00:12:54.620 suppression to shut us down and to also deny every canadian citizen the chance to listen
00:13:01.020 to me for example and i think that's also kind of um uh school marmish it's a nanny state because
00:13:07.660 who are these organizations to tell the canadian people what is harmful for them and what is from
00:13:13.100 which kind of speeches should be sheltered it's a losing strategy it's a losing side it's very
00:13:19.100 embarrassing and i i'm just happy that i'm here on the side of free speech and um of the better
00:13:24.620 arguments uh i know it's a gigantic can of worms i'm going to open but maybe you will give the
00:13:31.900 super truncated version of you know what is the essence of the message you were intending to
00:13:38.300 deliver I mean I they can't censor us here uh thankfully we've got Elon Musk and things like
00:13:43.860 X where they just can't censor us the way they could even just a few years ago um they could
00:13:49.500 stop you from physically getting to Canada but people in Canada are going to watch this
00:13:53.680 if you want to just maybe take a few minutes and just give us you know in a nutshell I don't know
00:13:59.080 that's not doing justice to it but give us in a nutshell what is the main message you wanted to
00:14:03.200 deliver to Canadians at DomCom if you had been allowed to enter Canada?
00:14:08.080 I'm very grateful that you give me the platform now to give you a concentrated
00:14:12.840 version of my keynote. Obviously, it's really just a very short message.
00:14:16.760 But my main message to the Canadian society would have been a warning,
00:14:22.560 a warning of what's going on demographically, because even though you
00:14:27.360 at another time, the Canadian way in Canada, you don't have the border
00:14:31.000 searches like in Ceuta. You don't have the big terrorist attacks like in Brussels or Germany,
00:14:36.960 but you still have a very steady process of cultural and ethnic demographic replacement.
00:14:43.120 That's going on in Canada. And my warning would be to the Canadians, you will not be able to keep 0.96
00:14:48.020 up what is Canada, the Canadian culture, rule of law and values, when you replace the people 0.89
00:14:53.500 who created this culture in the first place. Because that's just the rule, you cannot replace
00:14:58.560 the people and keep the culture it doesn't work so if you say okay we're fine with that enough of
00:15:03.920 canada we want something completely different and new we want canada to become more like india and
00:15:08.720 more like china that's fair but if you claim to love canada as um also the canadian elites to
00:15:15.760 right now then you should stop this process and um the other message would be a message of hope
00:15:21.280 and um that's remigration i think with remigration with just stopping mass immigration stopping mass
00:15:28.240 naturalization creating incentives for voluntary leave obviously uh deporting every single illegal
00:15:35.600 who is here illegally you can stop this uh replacement in canada you can stabilize the
00:15:40.800 canadian demography and you can um establish demographic security this would have been my
00:15:46.720 message my last call to action would be to the canadians to support groups like dominion society
00:15:52.320 to talk about issues even if it's hurtful and you get attacked because that's the only issue
00:15:58.480 that matter the only issues that matter the only truths are those one who are uncomfortable
00:16:03.280 and inconvenient where people don't want to talk about it and shut it down that always shows you
00:16:07.680 that are touching the most important issues and i can tell you we are not radical we're just early
00:16:13.760 re-migration four years ago was a fringe issue now everybody's talking about it it's the main
00:16:18.640 question of european politics the safe europe act i wanted to represent in canada is a hugely
00:16:24.560 successful citizen initiative in europe we have more than 720 000 signatures all across europe
00:16:30.240 so i would have encouraged the canadians even though it looks right now you're in the fringe
00:16:34.480 i think and i'm convinced what will be discussed at the dominion society conference today is the
00:16:42.400 topics of tomorrow of canadian mainstream politics so that's in a nutshell what i would have said at
00:16:47.440 at the Domkong.
00:16:50.060 And I think you're winning.
00:16:51.060 I know, actually, I spoke with an Austrian while I was in Kiev just a few days ago.
00:16:56.340 And he wasn't very happy about it, but he was very resigned to what he sees as the inevitability
00:17:02.480 that the Freiheit Bataille Österreich, the Freedom Party of Austria, is very likely to
00:17:07.380 win and be the next government there.
00:17:11.240 And you see similar kinds of parties in striking distance of power right across Europe.
00:17:16.020 is the single issue uh and it's it's funny enough something that the conservatives here have been
00:17:22.020 too cowardly to to really grasp onto they've been touching it at the margins because they know that
00:17:26.580 everybody cares about it but they're in in canada they're they need the votes of migrant communities
00:17:32.820 they think to empower and so they're very they're very hesitant they're always afraid of being called
00:17:37.140 names isms phobes the that kind of that kind of thing but it's it's resonating it's it's it's
00:17:45.060 reached a revolutionary pitch in europe and uh and there are there is sign is signs of hopes and uh
00:17:52.360 hope and i the canadian uh the canadian establishment is just as fearful of that
00:17:56.740 the conservative and liberal uh canadian establishment are are very fearful of it
00:18:01.840 coming here so i'm not terribly surprised that in the most canadian way possible you were
00:18:06.980 denied entry here so on behalf of canada sorry for that but um maybe a day will come when you're
00:18:13.280 allowed to set foot here i'll be back i'll be back when it says people always start laughing
00:18:18.900 because they claim a town like arnold schwarzenegger that's the only thing i've in common with him
00:18:22.920 but i can tell you and that's also maybe a message you cannot stop an idea with a border
00:18:27.340 an idea is something spiritual and stronger than any border or chain it grows stronger when you
00:18:33.360 beat it and attack it and they will not be able to stop the remigration renaissance just like you 1.00
00:18:40.500 cannot stop spring by trampling down and cutting down flowers. 0.96
00:18:44.140 So all my best to Canadian Patriots, all of them who got to know about Dominion
00:18:49.060 Society, please support them.
00:18:50.220 They're doing a very good and courageous work, being a vanguard, the first ones who
00:18:54.940 talk about these hard issues.
00:18:57.220 And if you want to know more about what I'm actually proposing and demanding,
00:19:01.100 then read my book, Remigration and Proposal.
00:19:03.780 Very good. 0.91
00:19:05.020 Martin, that was about the most Austrian response I think you could possibly give
00:19:09.460 the most canadian uh uh way of saying you're not allowed to come in so thank you very much for that
00:19:14.580 thank you for your time i know you're very busy man i'm gonna let uh get back to it um
00:19:21.220 all right uh thank you very much thank you thank you very much