00:00:43.040The federal government opened up immigration. What were the consequences? Why did they do it?
00:00:48.560And what do we do now? How did this get so out of control?
00:00:53.280Okay, Randy, so immigration, how does this fit in with our overall conversation?0.97
00:00:59.120Well, the first thing to remember is what we talked about in Episode 9, which is that Canada's uniqueness is based on its principle-based authority, principle-based society.
00:01:13.160So, because it's principle-based, it is not based on race or ethnicity or background or what, you know,
00:01:23.680the domination of one sex over the other.
00:01:25.880Those things are not part of our core principles.
00:10:55.600the uh instead of you know instead of protecting our society they did they just took the easy way
00:11:02.960out and i would argue that we've seen that not just the trudeau government but the canadian
00:11:07.600government in general uh you know by constitution by folding our economy into that with the united
00:11:13.920states we have continually taken the easy way out by underfunding our military they've taken
00:11:20.160the easy way out and i think that there's two pieces here one is that was the easy easy answer
00:11:26.320um and uh and and the other piece of it is that uh it's political action because when immigrants
00:11:34.480come in and my father-in-law is a really good example he was let in by the liberal government
00:11:38.880and he was an ardent liberal voter for years and so immigrants typically vote for the party that
00:11:45.360lets them in and so i think there's a little bit of a political bent to it also well i mean the
00:11:50.640consequences are you know drastic at this at this point um we're holding a referendum a number of
00:11:56.800those questions circle around immigration um you know we talked i just spoke about a number of
00:12:02.720different issues directly related to immigration so i mean if we get kind of underneath the
00:12:10.400situational context trudeau etc why did this happen well um the biggest problem in our immigration
00:12:21.040system in my view is that the federal government has the response has the authority to let people
00:12:26.320into the country but once they're in the country it doesn't take any responsibility the responsibility
00:12:31.600is with the provincial governments so our hate to say it again but our constitutional structure0.99
00:12:37.280is just flat out stupid and this idea that they work together just it doesn't it doesn't work0.98
00:12:43.440and so they let a lot of people in and just said okay provinces you got to deal with it1.00
00:12:48.080and uh and and so that that's the basic problem is that the federal government opened up the doors
00:12:54.880and the provincial government said what what's going on and that and hence that's the reason
00:12:59.440for some of the questions that are being asked in the uh in the in the referendum so ultimately how
00:13:05.520are we going to fix that well um the first step is that again it goes back to break the egg
00:13:15.120let's get rid of the 1982 constitution let's have a citizens assembly we can allocate
00:13:21.040the authority and responsibility to the same place or we can allocate as in this case
00:13:27.120the provinces need to have the responsibility and the authority to say yes and then the federal
00:13:32.720government actually does the work to let people in but they should not be letting people into the
00:13:37.280country that don't have a place to stay because you know the federal government of course doesn't
00:13:41.760have any land it's all under provincial jurisdiction and territorial jurisdiction
00:13:46.960so when they come in each province needs to say this is how many people we can handle
00:13:52.560and uh and then say to the federal government you can let that many people in here's our kind
00:13:57.520of requirements these are the kind of people that we want we want engineers we want businessmen you
00:14:01.200You know, whatever that, nurses, you know, whatever that case may be, the province should be working hand in hand.
00:14:07.580And the thing is, is that collaborative confederation doesn't work, but we need, if we're going to have a constitution, we need to enshrine it in the constitution and demand that both the federal and provincial governments adhere to that.
00:14:20.940So you'd be a fan of changing the constitution to give the provinces more say and sovereignty over the amount of immigration that we experience?
00:14:29.720Well, I mean, having the authority, I mean, this is like, you know, business class 101.
00:14:34.520You know, if you run a company, you have to have the authority and the responsibility in the same spot.0.97
00:14:39.380And the fact that we don't do that as a nation is, I called it stupid earlier, and I'm going to double down on that word.1.00
00:14:46.120And, you know, and they did, in 1867, they didn't think about it.
00:14:50.260In 1982, well, they were occupied with other things.
00:14:53.700And the problem is, is this is not a problem that can, an issue that can be solved by politicians, because when you get them in the room, they got their bureaucrats behind them that are saying, don't give up my power, and they all are standing their ground, and they don't want to give up any of their own authority or take on responsibilities.
00:15:12.660They don't want a population to demand that they are responsible.
00:15:18.840And so they're all jockeying from a personal perspective.
00:15:21.740So the only way to do this is for the people to say,
00:15:25.620to politicians, this is above your pay grade.
00:16:11.260and most of those immigrants pile into toronto and so if anybody's been to toronto lately i mean
00:16:18.440it's uh you know it it's where immigrants go because that's where their families already are
00:16:23.520and we're and in you know toronto is a great city and it's always been because you had the you know
00:16:27.660the portuguese neighborhood and the italian neighborhood and the and the you know greek
00:16:31.680neighborhood and and so it has always been ethnically diversified and that's on steroids
00:16:37.580now um you know there's 280 different ethnic groups in toronto 180 different languages toronto
00:16:46.220is actually the most ethnically diverse city in the world so when it says that it's kind of the
00:16:52.140center of the universe well it kind of is the center of the universe it's got more people from
00:16:57.260all over the world than any other city in the world so immigration is very much that's an
00:17:01.820interesting way to look at okay and then you know in terms of the questions on the referendum
00:17:07.580Yeah. Here in Alberta. You know, what what are we really saying about the issues that we're encountering because of mass immigration? And what are your thoughts there, Randy?
00:17:18.920So the first one is basically, and it's the first question on the referendum,
00:17:22.300is about Alberta taking more control of the immigration process.
00:17:26.380And I would argue that our constitutional structure is flawed.
00:17:32.220It can't just be a, I guess I've already argued that,
00:17:35.560you can't, the province already has the responsibility
00:17:39.360and the federal government has the authority.
00:17:43.360So this is an attempt to straighten that out.
00:17:45.680Yeah. And so the second question is all about limiting services to people that are temporary. So they're not even permanent residents. And I believe there's 17 different categories at the federal level. So that's one of the things that makes counting the ultimate numbers of immigration into the country so difficult because of all of these different tracks.
00:18:11.080And one of the tracks is when people move from temporary to permanent.
00:18:14.880But during the time period where they're simply temporary foreign workers or where they're attending school,
00:18:20.740the question is, do we want to limit the government services to the people that essentially,
00:18:27.420well, like the numbers from the province stated, might be bringing in kind of like $1 of tax revenue,