Western Standard - October 29, 2026


Is Danielle Smith purposely trying to alienate her base?

Don’t let the government kill direct democracy BREAKING: Premier Danielle Smith confirms Jeffrey Rath being ejected from UCP

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00:00:00.000 Hey, welcome back.
00:00:27.920 um happy halloween first off to everybody uh what is today today's the 29th tomorrow's the 30th
00:00:34.840 i is halloween on the 30th or is halloween on the 31st it's the last day of the month right so uh
00:00:41.240 kids will get to go out on saturday night i was walking downtown calgary i was hoping to see
00:00:46.260 maybe a few people dressed up or whatever but the spirit of halloween doesn't seem to be
00:00:52.280 in the air here maybe not as much as things like uh stampede and other uh holidays um
00:00:59.040 listen uh i'm completely unprepared you guys are gonna have to call in and tell me what to
00:01:06.300 talk about because i have no topics to talk about i have no idea what's going on kidding kidding
00:01:11.660 kidding kidding kidding i got another full list now um but it is you know in all seriousness we're
00:01:18.600 we're doing a talk show i want you guys to call and uh just you know you can we we can chat about
00:01:23.720 things that are on my list here or we can chat about anything you want um john put up a topic
00:01:30.280 right there on the on the thumbnail says uh danielle smith is purposely trying to um uh
00:01:39.640 i can't read it john what did i tell you to put down on the thumbnail
00:01:43.720 uh she she's she's alienating her base right and um and and i'll tell you honestly i was on a show
00:01:50.680 last night i do another i do a weekly show with uh my buddy clyde that clyde do something and we do a
00:01:57.240 wednesday night show clyde moved to the u.s late uh recently like about four months ago and so when
00:02:03.140 we do that show he's still covering uh he's trying to bring in a canadian perspective to an american
00:02:09.000 audience but but at the same time i'm trying to take advantage of clyde being down there and
00:02:14.900 getting an american perspective for my canadian audience right so we we we go back and forth
00:02:19.740 and last night it didn't matter what we tried to do in what direction we tried to steer the
00:02:24.820 conversation the only thing anybody wanted to talk about was uh danielle smith but i'll so we
00:02:32.820 will talk about danielle smith and the results of not the results of the referendum but what's kind
00:02:37.660 of been happening afterwards but i'll i'll just just to just to tease you to give you ideas of
00:02:43.160 maybe you know things you can call me uh with and and the phone number is on the screen there
00:02:47.620 479-9378 right so things that are on my list this week is it's something just buzzed in my
00:02:54.900 is that a call already john all right something's buzzing in there i don't know if it's buzzing on
00:03:01.600 the air but uh so other topics on my list are uh definitely um the bc election i mean that was on
00:03:08.660 saturday uh parliament is is uh going and you know there's uh some stuff happening there there's the
00:03:17.020 uh president of the eu coming to in montreal right now a bit of controversy with the new
00:03:24.900 Prime Premier of Quebec and interest rates going up, the budget coming out here locally, the budget and the tax increases and stuff like that.
00:03:38.840 So those are all on my list of things. But before I dive into it real quick, if you if you'll allow me just to share a proud moment in my life as a parent happened yesterday.
00:03:50.440 So I have four kids. You guys know that. I have an oldest daughter who's well-established. She's a senior hairstylist here in Calgary. And then I have three sons. And my three sons all followed in my footsteps, all studied and became engineers. Not quite the youngest one.
00:04:09.620 And so my youngest son, Ray, at Christmas, this Christmas, he will finish his seventh semester, so half of his fourth year.
00:04:19.600 So he still has one semester after this.
00:04:21.620 But he called me yesterday, and he told me he accepted a full-time job with an engineering firm that had given him a job as a summer student.
00:04:31.940 So he worked as a summer student for them, and now they offered him full-time work.
00:04:38.700 And so, you know, and just to me and to any parent out there, like, I did not have a lot of goals in life for my kids, except that I wanted them to grow up to be adults, contributing members to society and stay out of trouble.
00:04:58.000 And so when this happened yesterday, you know, I kind of like turned to my wife and gave her a big hug and patted each other on the back because fundamentally mission accomplished.
00:05:09.980 So I just wanted to share that. It felt really, really good. Feels really, really good when your kids are, you know, are doing well.
00:05:17.920 Now, I'll sour it a little bit with this add-on, though.
00:05:26.240 My father had the same dreams for his kids, right?
00:05:29.640 My father very specifically told me that, you know, I hope you do well.
00:05:33.780 Dad came from, you know, dad, my father was born in pre-World War II,
00:05:41.440 so in a sort of a tough era.
00:05:43.140 and his dad, when he was young, went to war.
00:05:50.260 And so my father had a sort of a tough childhood
00:05:54.400 and wanted me to do better.
00:05:57.440 And he told me he was proud later on in life
00:05:59.540 that I had done better.
00:06:00.880 And I think as a generation, that's a generational thing.
00:06:04.000 We always want that for our kids.
00:06:05.960 And I think my generation, generally speaking,
00:06:10.740 did better than the previous generation.
00:06:13.140 But I fear nowadays that my kids and other generations might are facing challenges and might not do better generally than we did.
00:06:25.980 Do you know what I mean? I hope that makes sense.
00:06:28.820 So my kids are doing good personally, but I think as a generation, the kids that today's young adults, they have a tough life, a tough challenge ahead of them.
00:06:38.300 You know, getting a getting a job is a big, major first step, but it barely pays the bills and the prospect for them of owning a house and things like that are just not there.
00:06:51.420 I mean, when I was 24 years old and I got my first job, my whole future was ahead of me.
00:06:57.600 It looks so bright.
00:06:58.600 All right. Well, let's get into a bit about what's going on with, you know, we're we're a week past the reference.
00:07:08.300 So the referendum was on the 19th, where more than a week passed. Officially, officially yesterday or today, the 29th, the elections in Alberta published the official results. So the official results are published and nothing fundamentally changed.
00:07:21.940 Uh, question 10, the, the, the big one on, uh, independence got 25% in favor of option two and 75% in option one. Those numbers are interesting, right? Because 520,000 people chose option two. And I would, and some people say, oh, they just picked it for, um, you know, just to send a message.
00:07:47.620 It's a pretty it's a pretty big message when you pick that number, right?
00:07:51.420 You don't you do you don't do that lightly.
00:07:53.300 So 500,000 plus people pick that.
00:07:55.800 I will go out on a limb and say most of them are conservative.
00:08:00.820 And a reminder that in the last election in 2023, Smith got, you know, 990,000 votes as total that her party.
00:08:09.780 so um mathematically that kind of tells me that the party the ucp is membership is 50 percent in
00:08:22.360 favor of independence now i i think i talked about this last week but i just want to talk about it
00:08:28.320 again right as a conservative i'm a conservative and i think many of you are also conservatives
00:08:33.800 We share a common set of values, right? We generally want the wise spending of our money, you know, fiscal responsibility. We enjoy our rights and freedoms. We don't like them infringed upon. We believe in small government. We believe in being a little more independent and less reliant on government. And we believe in preserving some traditions, things like that. So that's what makes us conservative.
00:09:02.740 in and of itself being a separatist is not necessarily i tell people it's not a conservative
00:09:11.300 value it's not one of my core values to me the fact that i'm a separatist is simply to me it's
00:09:19.200 simply a solution to a problem you know i'm blunt about this i think confederation is a failed
00:09:24.360 experiment and i don't think alberta will ever get a fair deal in confederation so i'm a
00:09:29.520 conservative. But when I look at problems, one of my solutions to the problem is independence,
00:09:37.920 sovereignty, real sovereignty, real autonomy. And so it's not a value for value's sake. To me,
00:09:44.300 it's a solution. And so the talk that's been going on that started with Danielle Smith,
00:09:52.220 so some of the talk that started with Danielle Smith was in a press conference she gave
00:09:57.060 after the referendum, but she also did a really, really interesting interview
00:10:04.040 on the weekend. It came out on Sunday, and it was with the CBC. I can't even remember,
00:10:11.520 and I had a hard time finding this interview, because I think, honestly, that in this interview,
00:10:17.580 she was sort of addressing another audience, you know what I mean? Like, when she was talking,
00:10:24.360 like i i honestly when i'm looking at that interview and some of the things she says and
00:10:28.180 i'll come to that um it it sounds like she didn't think that any of us would ever be watching that
00:10:33.920 interview and it almost sounds like she was addressing people in ontario or quebec or
00:10:39.380 other parts of canada kind of letting them know what had happened in the referendum and so
00:10:45.500 i i gotta try and wrap this in in in a way here but one of the things she said
00:10:52.520 in her press conference, basically, and I'm paraphrasing,
00:10:56.500 and there's arguments on the interpretation,
00:10:59.000 but she basically said that the referendum,
00:11:02.480 the independence question is settled.
00:11:05.700 And that the independence question is settled,
00:11:08.200 and she doesn't want to do another referendum 0.88
00:11:10.340 as long as she's leader, as long as she's premier.
00:11:14.040 And then she went a bit further and even said
00:11:16.420 that if people are still independence-minded,
00:11:21.580 that they should find a new home okay and and i found that really really troubling uh she almost
00:11:29.320 went as far in the interview as saying that you know people are free to start their own party and
00:11:33.300 things like that i don't favor that option okay that is not like for me there's three options
00:11:37.940 going forward as a as a conservative in alberta one is uh just accept the status quo accept the
00:11:45.740 status quo as is and keep voting for the UCP and keep supporting Danielle in her attempts to
00:11:54.580 get us a better deal, which for her means, you know, negotiating on immigration and other things.
00:12:02.340 So that's the status quo, which won, technically won in the referendum. Barely won, by the way,
00:12:08.780 barely won, because as we said, right, questions six, seven, eight and nine were rejected.
00:12:15.740 So she didn't get so her status quo is kind of weak. So that's the first option. The second option is to leave the UCP and splinter and form a new party. And we've and like I said last week, we've talked about this. This this is deja vu all over. This is the wild rose. This is other attempts in the past. And I don't favor that. That would I think that would guarantee re-election of the NDP.
00:12:40.200 and and so then the option in the middle the one i favor is is a i wouldn't i don't need to call it
00:12:47.480 a reform of the ucp but a but a continued evolution of the ucp right because the ucp is a brand new
00:12:55.840 party it was created by jason kenny you know circa 2021 2022 and uh to specifically to or sorry it
00:13:04.940 It was created before that, not 2022.
00:13:07.220 It was created 2018, 17-18, specifically to combat Notley.
00:13:16.320 Kenny united the group, and then we defeated Notley.
00:13:20.160 Kenny came in, and then Kenny got booted, and now Smith.
00:13:23.820 So the party is barely 10 years old kind of thing.
00:13:26.720 And does it need to be reformed or transformed?
00:13:30.480 No.
00:13:31.060 I think the way it works is working very well,
00:13:33.640 And we're going to see it at the AGM. Right. People are like we're we're we're submitting policies and we're guiding the the party.
00:13:41.300 So it doesn't need to be reformed. It needs to continue to evolve. And and that's where I'm at.
00:13:47.300 So I want to continue to evolve that party. And and I would hope that within the party that there would be an opportunity to continue to discuss the independence option and other options that I like.
00:14:02.500 I would never take anything off the table.
00:14:04.960 And I don't think we can take anything off the table because practically speaking, 50% of us in the party favor that option.
00:14:15.100 So my next step in the coming months is to continue down that path of encouraging that discussion and hoping that Smith reverses some of her statements that she's made lately.
00:14:29.800 I mean, she's gone as far as saying something like that that anybody who wants to be a voice for the party, whether it's as an MLA or as a director or on the board of the party, needs to sign off on on a guiding principle and and and distance themselves from independence.
00:14:50.760 And I think that's wrong. All right. I got my first caller. Awesome. So before I finish on, I want to go to the caller right away.
00:14:57.920 So as usual, folks, tell me where you're calling from, your name, please, and what's on your mind. And let's go from there. So go ahead, caller.
00:15:06.780 It's Chris from Calgary. Hey, Chris.
00:15:09.020 hey um so one thing that i observed with the the bc election is that i don't know that daniel
00:15:17.340 smith is necessarily the one who's bringing the ucp the victory i mean if you look at lauren dirksen
00:15:23.260 who the hell was this guy yeah he came out of nowhere and basically people there were voting
00:15:28.860 on the party so i think that the ucp would have a much better chance for re-election next year
00:15:35.160 If Daniel Smith were to step aside, somebody else from the party who's neutral, didn't decide one way or another, won't comment on it, which is most of the party.
00:15:46.600 Then people are going to vote on the party next election.
00:15:50.340 What's going to happen now, half people are going to stay home because Daniel Smith is the leader.
00:15:55.940 Stay on the line, Chris.
00:15:56.820 So I was actually going to talk about that, but I'm glad you brought it up.
00:16:00.300 Right. So so in the B.C. election, in your mind, so you brought up a couple of things.
00:16:09.040 There was definitely so the B.C. election proves that the leader is not necessarily as important as as we think it is.
00:16:17.480 Is that is that kind of your thought? Exactly. OK. Yeah. So so in B.C., the leader is not as important.
00:16:25.360 So you're right. Right. Who was Lauren Dirksen? Right. I mean, we'd never heard of the guy.
00:16:28.900 I know he was already, whatever, an MLA, but basically you're right.
00:16:32.300 We hadn't heard about him.
00:16:34.260 And then what, in your mind, what was the core of the, what were the voters thinking in B.C.?
00:16:39.940 Like, were they just voting against E.B. or were they, you know what I mean?
00:16:47.480 Like, what was their core way of thinking when they were voting?
00:16:52.860 Well, yeah, I think that they were trying to vote down the NDP.
00:16:57.000 And I mean, even right now, this is Smith's big threat as well.
00:17:00.100 It's got to be near to the NDP.
00:17:02.900 And it's like, well, I don't know.
00:17:03.980 If you were to step aside, I don't think the NDP would have a hope in hell.
00:17:07.460 I think we could run a broomstick with a top hat and have a better chance of winning the election than we do running with you.
00:17:14.120 Because you've alienated half of your party.
00:17:17.020 Like, half the party is going to stay home.
00:17:19.300 We could run literally anybody.
00:17:21.780 I could run my dog.
00:17:23.280 We'll get more votes.
00:17:24.400 So, Chris, do you think?
00:17:25.420 Okay, cool. I like that. Now, me personally, like I just said, I'm not ready to kick her to the curb. I'd like to hear what she has to say. I mean, she does a lot of good for the province, right? I've always said that. I mean, I generally like the direction that she's taking us in, but do you think we, I'll be blunt, do you want her gone or would you hang on until the next election?
00:17:53.320 well i think the best chance for the ucp to win re-election is for her to step aside
00:18:00.360 interesting okay no no that's a valid point i mean i i'm not there yet but i might and and
00:18:05.980 and if she was if she really cared about defeating the ndp in the next election she would see the
00:18:12.900 wisdom in that and i mean there's plenty of party members in the ucp who haven't declared one way
00:18:18.660 or another, as the NDP is constantly reminding us, they're like, oh, you've got all these
00:18:23.700 members and nobody said that they're loyal to Canada or that they're, like, nobody's
00:18:28.700 said one thing one way or the other.
00:18:30.980 Yeah, yeah.
00:18:31.260 So there's a whole bunch of people who could step up and just, I'm neutral.
00:18:35.900 Absolutely.
00:18:36.440 Okay, no, I...
00:18:37.340 Which is what Daniel Smith should have done in the first place.
00:18:40.260 Fair enough.
00:18:40.900 Fair enough.
00:18:41.820 Where are you calling from, Chris?
00:18:43.460 I might have missed it when you said it.
00:18:46.480 Calgary.
00:18:47.000 Calgary.
00:18:47.320 awesome okay well thanks for calling are you first time caller or i think we've talked before right
00:18:51.240 no no no yeah we talked before awesome okay well thanks for that that we're fundamentally on the
00:18:58.720 same page thanks chris yeah yeah i just don't think danielle smith should put herself before
00:19:04.440 the party and thanks thanks again marty awesome cheers um okay so yeah i mean that ties in with
00:19:11.540 where i was right so i was just talking about uh me personally i think danielle should more or less
00:19:17.060 retract some of the comments she made recently and uh and then i think i think hopefully she can
00:19:23.660 read the room and realize that that um that she's got to embrace people like myself who who who
00:19:32.320 don't entirely agree with her solution and want to keep pushing for independence now um
00:19:39.620 I got to come. Well, let's wave there. Let's go there real quick.
00:19:45.460 I mean, the elections only the referendums 10 days ago and already we can see that we lost an opportunity of getting like if she wants to negotiate with Ottawa, she needs leverage.
00:19:58.800 And I think by losing, she lost some leverage. And we already saw that this week. We've seen it twice, three times. Right.
00:20:05.060 so in the house of commons uh earlier this week the conservatives introduced a motion to try and
00:20:12.020 repeal the tanker ban the west coast tanker ban and it was defeated like it was defeated so i mean
00:20:20.480 that's that's like that's a we're dead in the water already on on on getting like a pipeline
00:20:27.080 built and things like that because and and this is a simple like if the gov if the liberals can't
00:20:32.720 reverse something as simple as a tanker ban, how are
00:20:36.760 they going to open the Constitution? I mean, that was crazy what happened
00:20:40.480 this week. And then the other thing, and I don't want to dive into
00:20:44.740 it just yet, but the other thing that's happening this week is
00:20:47.280 Carney is going, went visiting, you know, he went
00:20:52.720 to overseas and now he's invited the EU. He's invited, I can't remember, what's
00:20:56.740 her name, Ursula von something. She's in Montreal and
00:21:00.800 he's still moving us and still trying to get us into the european union i'll come back to that
00:21:06.360 right i'll come back to that so um i i wish i had a link to that interview uh if you follow me the
00:21:14.280 the danielle smith interview where uh with the cbc the hour-long interview uh it's very it was
00:21:21.100 hard to find i put it on x uh maybe after this show maybe i'll i'll get john to i'll send the
00:21:29.100 link to john and john can put the link and people can go find it i mean i don't want to usually
00:21:32.840 like i don't want to promote the cbc but it's a good interview in in like i said um she says
00:21:40.900 some things in there that i think are really contradictory and um not well thought out
00:21:47.420 but when i listened to that interview a couple of times i think she was targeting a different
00:21:52.820 audience like one of the questions another question that came out boldly in that interview
00:21:57.660 The interviewer asked her, like, you know, how are you going to, you know, make friends, make amends with the separatists?
00:22:07.980 They're the ones who elected you.
00:22:11.560 And then she does this, this weird Kamala Harris cackle.
00:22:15.820 And then she answers.
00:22:16.960 She's like, no, it's not separatists that got me elected.
00:22:19.440 It's people that were against COVID and people that were against mandates and people that were against, you know, overreach and trampling of our rights and things like that.
00:22:29.920 And as she's naming them off, I'm doing like a Venn diagram in my head and going, they all intersect with, you know, that people like me, again, who were against the vaccine mandates were the people who really value freedoms and are the people who don't like Ottawa.
00:22:46.740 And so we're kind of one in the same. I mean, I think she was being very specific at the time. I get that at the time in 2023 when she was elected. Yes, we were kicking out, you know, we had just kicked out Kenny basically on on COVID and on on overreach.
00:23:06.680 and so sure you could say that that's who elected her at the time but it's the same group it's the
00:23:11.760 same base so um that statement was really interesting and i think damaging and then
00:23:18.980 you know there's there's a bit of damage the the damage continues right so after that two days ago
00:23:25.380 all of us who are members of the ucp got a letter from the president of the ucp rob smith
00:23:31.960 and it's a short letter
00:23:35.540 but in the letter he literally says
00:23:37.740 it's settled
00:23:39.500 it's settled
00:23:41.160 I don't want to talk about this
00:23:42.620 it's settled
00:23:43.340 and sorry Rob but it's not settled
00:23:46.420 especially not if 50% of a group
00:23:49.600 are of an opinion
00:23:51.540 that's far from settled
00:23:52.840 and that's not how our democracy works
00:23:56.080 and that's absolutely not how this party works
00:23:59.040 so this party
00:24:00.020 um you know the way this party works and most parties is the members of the party all like
00:24:08.620 40 000 of us we go to the agm and at the agm we elect the leadership of the party so we elect
00:24:17.740 the board of directors and we elect a president and and then those guys um and then we elect
00:24:25.800 people in charge of whatever fundraising and in charge of policies and then what we do throughout
00:24:31.000 the year is anybody who's a member is free to write up a proposal a policy you know what could
00:24:38.120 be a policy i think that um we should um uh support our farmers right to sell from their farm without
00:24:49.240 having to go to a slaughterhouse that's an example of a policy somebody can write that policy so
00:24:54.680 Throughout the year, hundreds and hundreds of policies are written and proposed and sent to the board of the party.
00:25:05.000 And those policies are written by individuals and they're written by groups and they're written by constituency associations.
00:25:11.740 And then those policies get reviewed and we get the opportunity to rank the policy.
00:25:16.960 So a couple of weeks ago, I got to go read like 300 policies that have been submitted, and I could rank them one, two, three, or four, and then somebody tabulated them, and the most popular policy proposals will be debated on the floor of the AGM coming up in four weeks.
00:25:35.100 And then if the party passes a policy that says something like, you know, we don't support politics in the classroom, then that's a platform of the party.
00:25:48.580 And then people who are elected under our platform, such as the premier and MLAs, are kind of obligated to they're obligated to represent their constituents, the people who voted for them.
00:25:59.800 But they're also obligated to to try and move the policies forward, the policies put forth by the party and move them forward once they form government.
00:26:11.220 So Smith can't just tell us it's on it's resolved and I don't want to hear about it.
00:26:15.540 that's the party's decision and she definitely can't tell um a board member you need to meet
00:26:23.060 these you know uh these these the you need to have these values in order to be a candidate no that's
00:26:30.740 up to us to decide if if if frank wants to show up and run for uh calgary regional director the
00:26:39.620 representative or if larry wants to run as the vp of communications for the for the party i can ask
00:26:48.100 him questions on where he stands but if i and if he tells me he's against uh independence i might
00:26:54.020 vote against him or for him but i the membership chooses who we elect to be on the board so like
00:27:00.980 this is really really interesting what's going on which is why the topic was that that we chose
00:27:06.100 today is is she trying to alienate her base because a lot of the things she's done in the
00:27:12.000 last couple of days since well it actually it's gone on before that i mean i think she started
00:27:16.360 alienating her base a year ago more than that and she's continuing to alienate her base and um and
00:27:26.860 i think i think i'm gonna i think i'm gonna leave it at that i mean i think that's where we're at
00:27:31.520 right now um we got uh well i i got one last bit one last bit sorry and i get the good thing i took
00:27:39.480 some notes um it's it's somewhat related to this she's alienating her base and some days i wonder 0.97
00:27:48.260 why is there another ulterior motive right is she compromised does she have her own agenda is she
00:27:55.360 really naive i don't know right i you asked me the question on what's going through danielle
00:28:01.540 smith's mind and my answer changes from week to week to week depending on current events
00:28:06.020 but this week there was an event that occurred again that i'm that i just shake my head so she
00:28:11.900 was up on stage she did a brief press conference and uh and and and it's an announcement around
00:28:19.740 COVID vaccines and the new, you know, it's a season. So there's a COVID. We're now at the
00:28:25.120 point where COVID is treated like the flu. There's an annual flu. And apparently there's an annual
00:28:29.800 COVID. And don't get me started on the science behind that. That's not the point that I want
00:28:35.760 to make today. But she was on stage. Instead of just letting Andrea Lagrange or whoever's the 0.66
00:28:41.200 health minister talk about this, Smith took an opportunity to go on stage and talk about this
00:28:45.400 expanded covid vaccine program and how it's being extended to kids as young as six months old blah
00:28:52.000 blah blah blah blah blah blah right well that's to me i'm like that's that's not reading the room
00:28:58.620 we just had the allison inquiry not too long ago in ottawa where we had tons of people uh you know
00:29:04.820 testify about vaccine injuries she commissioned a uh a study on this the uh davidson study which
00:29:12.380 came out with recommendations and she didn't do anything of that and she admitted that it's a 0.55
00:29:16.860 covid crowd that got rid of uh kenny and got her into power but then she goes and does this on
00:29:23.560 stage so i was like confused maybe you guys can tell me why you think she did that i got a caller
00:29:29.040 go ahead what's on your mind hey mary it's verne can you hear me i can how are you
00:29:36.440 i'm good thanks i'm in calgary and uh first of all i want to say thanks for all the stuff that
00:29:44.380 you're doing here trying to burn the light onto this i wanted to ask do you think or have you
00:29:49.860 heard the term performative politics yes somewhat yeah so do you think that maybe most of the
00:29:58.540 politicians that were seen with daniel smith they're more concerned about looking good than
00:30:03.880 actually doing good because the thing is like i mean we already had a clear mandate about uh about
00:30:10.200 equalization in the in the previous referendum and then we saw that premier kenny the former
00:30:16.760 premier kenny he just sent a letter to the prime minister's office and to the premiers and when
00:30:22.120 they said no he left it at that um you know i i think that a lot of people are maybe frustrated
00:30:29.560 and uh i'm going to the to the agm next month and i paid my ten dollars you know and two hundred
00:30:34.360 dollars for a ticket i know there's lots of people that want to go and there's people that want to
00:30:37.720 vote her out and they want to keep her in and the thing is i think that there's things that the
00:30:44.200 premier could have done but chose not to like she didn't need to go to a vote to go and say well
00:30:50.840 let's start our pension plan for instance um so i guess the question i have is and i like the last
00:30:59.000 call we said about you know we could put a broomstick with the hat on and he might win and
00:31:02.600 the example learned that jerkson winning is a good you know example for that so i don't think hopey
00:31:08.360 and their fear is is or intimidation is the strategy that's going to carry us forward in
00:31:14.360 the long term and i think this whole thing about that well we either have daniel smith or we have
00:31:18.840 menchie maybe maybe there's somebody else you know coming up out of the ranks like i think a lot of
00:31:24.120 people spoke really highly about keith wilson for example yeah like i i don't know but i guess what
00:31:30.200 do you think you know how when is canada or when it's canadian because i love canada but i don't
00:31:35.400 like that we have you know all these epic violations with prime minister's office you know
00:31:40.520 with brookfield and you know maybe christian freeland isn't necessarily uh you know doing
00:31:45.160 the ukraine for you know the goodness of her heart maybe you know there's there's a lot of questions
00:31:49.400 but but you know when people are trying to you know be able to afford groceries or rent or they
00:31:54.280 see you know that ram prices have gone up 800 in the last year and we have a prime minister
00:31:59.240 that's saying that we're living in the most affordable time ever it's like yeah you're
00:32:03.240 you're breaking up a little bit so what was the question is somebody gonna wake me up
00:32:07.240 what was the question is performance politics yeah so when when are we going to or what do
00:32:13.400 we need to see from daniel what do you think we need to see from daniel smith actually believe
00:32:18.120 that she's not in it for herself but that she's going to do something for her because i like that
00:32:22.440 she lowered the threshold you know for the referendum but then she you know took aside
00:32:26.840 and spent a whole bunch of money in campaigning against it so yeah i don't know what she stands
00:32:30.760 for and i guess i'm asking what do you think she stands for okay um thanks for calling i'll i'll
00:32:35.800 ask you to hang up so somebody else can call in um i'll i mean there's no easy answer um
00:32:43.880 Um, first of all, I guess we're going to have to wait and like to the early to the to his first comment.
00:32:52.480 Right. I mean, is it performative and whatever?
00:32:55.080 I mean, politicians are politicians, right?
00:32:57.560 Like you, you, you, most of them get elected in some sort of it's a it's a popularity contest.
00:33:02.900 They get elected. And then I swear to God, once they're elected, half their job becomes staying in power.
00:33:08.300 Like that's that's always the case.
00:33:09.760 I mean, I can step back and sort of say that perhaps there's two or three different kinds of politicians, right?
00:33:15.600 There's the there's the very well-intentioned, naive person who goes in, gets elected, thinks they're going to be a representative of the people and do do some good.
00:33:27.020 And they come in and they realize how the machine works and they get they get completely discouraged.
00:33:31.660 And then they do one year and they leave. And I think this always happens to politicians.
00:33:36.800 When they come in, they get tested like all the other politicians are like, is he really one of us?
00:33:41.600 Is he on the team? Can we bring him on board? Are his values or her values flexible and so forth?
00:33:47.780 So there's a lot of people go in, get discouraged and they're out.
00:33:50.440 Then there's others who go in, manage to work the system and and manage to do some good and stay in there.
00:33:59.280 And but those are rare. And then there's the ones that go in well intentioned, see how the system works,
00:34:05.320 realize that there's a lot of money to be made here and um and and and and the way they go they
00:34:12.020 stay in power forever and ever and that's one of the reasons i'd like term limits and things like
00:34:16.340 that i don't know where danielle is in this whole spectrum i really don't um but she's been talking
00:34:22.220 a good story people like her but i think people are finally getting tired of the the the the false
00:34:32.560 promises she's she's moving forward just enough to make it look like something's significance
00:34:37.800 happening but if you think about it sure you know uh reverse these uh soji policies got the
00:34:44.780 sort of politics out of the classroom i mean that one didn't work too well is still to be determined
00:34:49.620 now she's announced she's going to reduce dei uh eliminate dei hiring practices and and and a few
00:34:56.620 things like that but at the end of the day ahs is still a mess budgets are still out of control and
00:35:01.520 and, and running high. And there's been no real, uh, wins with, uh, Ottawa. She'll say, well,
00:35:08.340 I got, uh, Trudeau fired or I got, uh, Steven Gilboa fired. Gilboa quit because he got pissed
00:35:14.080 off at Kearney. Uh, Trudeau quit because, you know, he, he made his millions and he was done
00:35:20.000 anyways. And so, um, and, and as far as like, you know, like the pipelines now we're not,
00:35:26.580 we don't have pipelines anyway so i'm rambling a little bit but um uh i think i think the agm is
00:35:32.840 going to be very interesting and so what i think she needs to do what i really think she needs to
00:35:36.540 do she needs to read the room if she's genuine if she's genuine and wants to do good and wants to
00:35:42.220 keep the ndp out of power then she will do the same kind of brainstorming we're doing here and
00:35:47.200 she will come up to there's only one conclusion and the conclusion is she either has to embrace
00:35:52.300 a bunch of independence-minded people 0.58
00:35:55.760 and find a way to bring us into the big tent
00:35:58.240 and share in the conversation
00:36:00.000 and share in the solution that she's proposing.
00:36:03.100 And she's going to have to be flexible.
00:36:05.040 And I'm just going to work down,
00:36:07.260 I'm just going to write flexible here
00:36:08.920 so I can come back to my thought on this one.
00:36:11.580 But I want to go to the call.
00:36:12.800 So I got a caller.
00:36:13.440 Go ahead, caller.
00:36:16.800 Hi, hello.
00:36:17.780 Hello, Marty.
00:36:18.600 Yep.
00:36:18.800 um so like um my name is robson i speak from cochrane um i'm actually like a immigrant i
00:36:28.440 came from brazil in 2017 and my question to you is like this it's kind of related to the question
00:36:37.000 that the guy asked previously like why we don't have like good men trying to run for politics
00:36:44.980 Like, only, like, these effeminated men, like, for example, Calgary, Edmonton, like, in Cochrane itself.
00:36:51.580 There's no, like, brave men running for politics.
00:36:57.860 Yeah, yeah, no.
00:37:01.060 Was it Rob, you said?
00:37:04.280 Yeah, Rob.
00:37:05.120 Yeah, yeah.
00:37:07.880 Yeah, well, I don't know the answer.
00:37:12.180 I do know the answer.
00:37:13.520 I mean, one of the answers is that, especially here in Alberta, there's good money to be made in the private sector.
00:37:24.040 And so people don't want to go in politics.
00:37:26.340 I mean, in Canada, for the longest time, for the longest time in Canada, politics and working in the civil sector was like a second rate job.
00:37:37.440 And it still is a second rate job.
00:37:39.280 And it attracts people who don't succeed elsewhere in other departments.
00:37:43.740 That's my that's my crude gut answer to that one.
00:37:47.180 And we see it all the time. And there's been attempts.
00:37:50.020 There's, you know, people had a theory that if we just paid more, you would attract better people into politics.
00:37:57.940 And that's never going to happen because better people want jobs that are truly rewarding, where they have an impact, where the risk reward ratio is there and where people can make change.
00:38:08.680 and and that's not politics and that's not the civil service you know so i i don't know what's
00:38:16.520 your theory i'll throw it back at you why i mean you come from another country are
00:38:20.600 are brazilian politicians uh different than canadian ones
00:38:24.320 no they're much worse so but the thing is marty like for example when good men like yourself like
00:38:32.420 if we also like you guys we can see right we we kind of know you because you like every day on
00:38:40.020 the internet we we kind of already can pick up like how you guys think what what is your values
00:38:45.780 like if like good man's like like yourself like don't put yourself in line like this
00:38:54.120 will take over yeah well i'll tell you this here's another here's another reality that's
00:38:59.860 happened to politics it's it's uh it's become a uh an institution and a club that looks after
00:39:06.720 itself purely and so i guarantee you that if i tried to run tomorrow if i announced my candidature
00:39:12.640 to run um a danielle smith would probably cancel it and and decline it not allow me to run but even
00:39:20.240 if i ran the machine would literally the first step is to get is to be the candidate and the
00:39:26.100 the party would work against me because I'm not an insider and I don't think
00:39:29.960 like them and I'm a threat to them.
00:39:32.260 And so the government exists and it's so big that it protects itself is what
00:39:39.280 it's doing is one of my answers to that.
00:39:42.620 And I think, in fact, we're going to test that theory.
00:39:45.500 There is going to be an election.
00:39:47.380 And I know for a fact that there are a lot of people that are going to present
00:39:52.280 themselves as candidates as a test to see if the party is willing to accept them so
00:39:58.120 um i i don't have a better answer but uh but but thanks for calling cheers
00:40:03.960 all right thank you yeah yeah um yeah great question i mean uh
00:40:11.480 which we'll come back to that one so many things that we want to talk about today but i i wrote
00:40:17.960 down flexible because i wanted to just add this little bit right um when when you listen to one
00:40:25.400 of the things that i don't like about danielle smith is that when you listen to her talk in
00:40:31.560 again i'm telling you you got to go look at this interview you got to go find this interview i'll
00:40:35.160 after the show i'll find the link and i'll get john to add the link to the to the bottom here
00:40:40.280 um you you gotta in this interview she talks and talks and talks that's one of the things that 1.00
00:40:46.920 Danielle has a similar flaw. 1.00
00:40:50.380 I have the same flaw.
00:40:51.480 I think out loud.
00:40:52.280 It's not a flaw.
00:40:52.960 I think out loud, right?
00:40:53.840 I think out loud.
00:40:55.020 I was an engineer.
00:40:55.960 When I was an engineer and I would brainstorm, I think out loud.
00:40:59.660 So, you know, if the problem was there's a tank that's way over there and I can't reach it and I need to empty the tank,
00:41:05.620 I might think out loud and I say, well, you know, we could shoot at it and put a hole in the tank.
00:41:10.600 Or I can send a monkey to climb the ladder and he can open the valve, whatever, right?
00:41:14.860 So, you know what I mean?
00:41:15.560 I'm thinking out loud.
00:41:16.600 And when I'm thinking out loud, you can hear soundbites from me and then you get a view of how I'm thinking generally in life and my philosophies because my soundbites will come out over and over and over.
00:41:30.640 And so and then when Danielle was doing this interview, you hear the same soundbites over and over and over.
00:41:35.940 She can't help herself when she's talking.
00:41:38.180 And then she brings up things like, you know, she wants to increase immigration because she thinks that that's a way for the province to get more clout.
00:41:45.380 And she wants to do this and she wants to do that.
00:41:47.920 And so when she's left to talk, she brings up things that show who she truly is.
00:41:54.000 And one of the things you realize is that she has an idea in her mind and she's playing a game and she's pretending to ask us what we want.
00:42:03.400 But, you know, it's a win-win for her to give us a referendum, right?
00:42:08.460 Do you guys want to do, you know, should I shrink inflation?
00:42:12.320 And let's say she's already thinking she wants to shrink inflation.
00:42:15.380 should I shrink inflation? If we say yes, she goes, bingo, I'll do it. And if we say no,
00:42:19.780 she'll like, well, I was non-binding and I'm still going to do it anyways. Right. So she does that a
00:42:24.700 lot. And so keep that in mind when you watch her. All right. I got another call. Go ahead. Call her.
00:42:34.780 Go ahead. Oh. Hello. Go ahead. I can hear you.
00:42:41.580 hi there i was actually just calling in to speak with marty am i speaking with marty
00:42:47.700 john it's too i don't know if it's too loud i can i i can hear her you can hear her okay
00:42:55.860 try again what's on your mind all right so what i wanted to mention was that if we really want to
00:43:03.180 focus on a better candidate we have to stop expecting to do the same things and get the
00:43:09.260 results so being motivated by fear is not the way that we're actually going to make any sort of
00:43:15.820 sorry you're gonna i can't hear at all like it's just it's just uh
00:43:22.460 try again okay one more time is this better better way better there you go okay
00:43:30.220 okay awesome yeah so actually what i wanted to mention was the way i see it is we have to look
00:43:35.500 at a couple things just concretely what we've done before hasn't made the changes that we want
00:43:40.940 to have happen being motivated by fear that mbt is going to be coming into power is not our best
00:43:47.100 foot forward planning based on fear is never the best choice we have to get the reality oh i'm sorry
00:43:55.420 oh she was onto something good did i lose her or did we lose her her line double beat uh i'm so
00:44:06.760 sorry um well maybe she can call again is there another call right now john no um yeah i i i kind
00:44:14.560 of think i know where she was going with this you know um i'm oh is she back new caller all right
00:44:21.780 let's go with the new caller go ahead caller hi marty it's uh ken call from central alberta
00:44:29.480 hey ken how's it going i just want to uh ask you um because of the federal election
00:44:35.120 and now this referendum how do you think conservative voters feel about their party
00:44:43.420 and voting in general the federal party like the federal conservatives well the federal
00:44:50.740 conservatives yes i have an idea on that um we can talk a little later but um just this
00:44:57.660 referendum and how danielle has treated treated the uh issues and how do you think conservative
00:45:05.860 voters will actually come out and vote in this upcoming provincial election oh okay um well i
00:45:15.820 I think that's sort of the topic we're exploring today.
00:45:18.600 If I had to guess today, based on what I'm hearing today,
00:45:25.260 I would say the UCP would lose some votes.
00:45:33.660 I think based on what I saw, what's happening currently,
00:45:37.120 the UCP would lose some votes.
00:45:39.080 There are a few parties.
00:45:41.860 There is some splintering.
00:45:43.020 There are some new parties setting up.
00:45:45.060 There are some that already exist, you know, the Republican Party and the Independence Party.
00:45:49.700 There are parties that exist, and I think there's already been a splinter.
00:45:52.920 So if the election was tomorrow, I think the UCP would still win because Nenshi is really not that popular and he has no platform.
00:46:02.060 Now, that's today.
00:46:06.600 A lot can change in the next year, and I think that's what we're exploring.
00:46:10.080 I hope that in the next year, Danielle can see that there's a lot of wisdom in really embracing everybody with conservative values, regardless of how they feel about independence.
00:46:21.800 Does that make sense?
00:46:23.780 Yeah, it does.
00:46:25.600 So here's another statement I have.
00:46:28.600 Because there's a potential for a federal party for Alberta to form and make a push for federal politics.
00:46:40.080 I think there's a big bridge there for that party to reach out to Albertans and say, support the UCP, but know that we're fighting for Alberta on the federal level, and we need provincial politics to align with that.
00:46:57.160 Yes, that's happening. And that that yes, that's happening. I can't remember the name of the party, but there is a party being set up. Drew Barnes and a gentleman named C.W. Alexander and others are setting up a federal party modeled a bit after the Bloc Québécois.
00:47:16.880 I guess it's kind of modeled after the Reform Party of like 20 years ago kind of thing.
00:47:21.980 And I would, me personally, I would have no, I mean, I've done it for all the last elections.
00:47:26.340 For the last, I haven't voted federally conservative in the last three or four elections.
00:47:33.200 I mean, I basically wasted my vote because it didn't matter to me.
00:47:38.140 Real conservatives are never going to get elected federally in this country.
00:47:43.460 And so if a party like you're describing, and I know it's going to happen,
00:47:47.280 I would vote for that party.
00:47:48.840 That's why I voted for Wexit, or not Wexit, for Maverick and PPC
00:47:53.520 and other parties in recent history for that reason.
00:47:56.860 And it was kind of a wasted vote.
00:48:00.160 They weren't getting a lot of traction.
00:48:01.360 But I think this time around, a new Alberta independence federal party
00:48:08.180 will get a lot of traction.
00:48:09.220 yeah i i do agree with you 100 and uh thanks marty i appreciate your show and your perspective
00:48:17.760 and uh hey great job with the family all right thanks for calling cheers um yeah i can't remember
00:48:24.000 the name of the the the party is uh well it's drew barnes drew barnes is uh uh if i remember
00:48:29.760 correctly drew barnes was an alliance or not an alliance uh a wild rose mla he's one of the ones
00:48:35.960 who did not cross the floor and stayed on,
00:48:38.300 then left provincial politics,
00:48:39.920 and now he's dabbling in federal politics.
00:48:43.020 But they're collecting the signatures
00:48:47.960 to get registered as a party.
00:48:51.920 Wow. Okay, well, so where was I when I...
00:48:56.580 Okay, so what else have I got?
00:48:58.300 I'm looking at the clock, and I did one topic.
00:49:01.260 This is, like I said, this is what happened yesterday
00:49:03.220 when I was talking with my buddy Clyde.
00:49:04.840 We just couldn't get away from Danielle.
00:49:06.640 It's a fascinating thing.
00:49:08.320 We have a year.
00:49:09.280 We have a whole year before the next election.
00:49:12.760 Some people say, can it be longer than a year?
00:49:15.520 We have fixed election dates. 1.00
00:49:17.240 So it could be shorter if she decided to do an EB. 1.00
00:49:20.680 That's going to become a term now, by the way, right? 0.84
00:49:22.400 We're going to say that.
00:49:23.120 You did an EB.
00:49:23.980 You committed political suicide.
00:49:28.320 So we have fixed election dates.
00:49:30.080 So a year from now, a lot can happen in the next year.
00:49:32.720 a lot can happen both here and in ottawa so um all right caller on the line uh let's keep taking
00:49:41.060 calls go ahead caller where are you calling from what's on your mind hey marty it's dwight from
00:49:46.500 calgary hey dwight how are you i'm doing okay i'm really getting pissed off with uh danielle smith 0.95
00:49:54.040 be honest with you every time she seems to i joined the ucp back in may when she totally blew the
00:50:04.760 the referendum question and added her own question without telling the the courts to go
00:50:13.800 you know pound sand bucket yeah yeah and uh you know that i decided dan i was going to get 0.92
00:50:20.120 into that AGM I bought my ticket I'm ready to you know vote her out and since then she has done
00:50:29.100 nothing but get worse and worse and worse and you know with uh you know this is my party you know 0.99
00:50:36.900 just like it's almost like power corrupts because now she thinks she's the party and um she couldn't
00:50:44.740 be further from the truth she needs to be humbled a little bit because i think she thinks all of
00:50:50.940 this is because of her and um you know like and with the covid thing i mean it just it just keeps
00:50:58.100 getting worse like i we see i couldn't i wouldn't be surprised seeing her wear a liberal sign on
00:51:05.900 her chest at the agm because it's just like i don't know what else could she do like what could
00:51:12.540 be worse than what she's done i i'm i'm with you um a couple of things um it's going to be
00:51:20.480 just just to just to be clear there is no easy mechanism to quote unquote humble her at the agm
00:51:27.720 right so the the the party rules are that there's a leadership review every three years so we had
00:51:33.520 one in uh 2024 so there isn't one this year doesn't mean we won't find way i mean if she
00:51:39.660 gets booed during her ex uh like she'll do a um you know um uh keynote speech and she'll speak at
00:51:46.420 events and she'll she'll have an opportunity to hear us and so i think if we if we we'll have to
00:51:52.060 send a message that way that said there's already five constituency associations that pass motions
00:51:57.240 to try and ask for a a vote so we'll see what happens um yeah when when everybody was talking
00:52:04.760 about these constituency offices
00:52:06.820 I looked up
00:52:08.880 mine and they'd already
00:52:10.820 voted in support of Danielle
00:52:12.840 Smith like they're already
00:52:15.060 one of those
00:52:16.740 ones that have been taken over by
00:52:18.880 the Danielle crew
00:52:20.340 you're going to have an eye
00:52:22.920 opener when you go to the AGM
00:52:24.760 welcome by the way thank you like I'm glad
00:52:26.940 you know you're joining
00:52:28.720 the movement and you're being
00:52:30.980 engaged which is awesome
00:52:32.560 um you're going to see the establishment and the other side and you're going to see that even in
00:52:38.680 a party like ours there is a strong strong establishment there's a machine that works
00:52:43.220 that has more advantages than us that's for sure yeah yeah i i know that but i just i well i'm just
00:52:51.360 getting so fed up with this bs that's it just was it's so frustrating but you're doing the right
00:52:58.320 thing by the way you're doing the right thing right so um you're you're you're proving one
00:53:04.000 of the points i told you the story or i told you guys the story a couple last week i think
00:53:08.180 shane gets in just resigned right shane gets in just resigned and uh shane was a pretty popular
00:53:13.880 mla and he's the one that i had a chat with at the agm that's the other beautiful thing about
00:53:18.060 the agms these guys the the ucp mlas are generally very accessible they walk around the floor you
00:53:24.000 can chat with him which is awesome and he's the one at the AGM two years ago that said to me like
00:53:29.820 this is awesome look at this there's 6,000 people and I told him I'm like Shane what are you proud
00:53:33.680 of there's 6,000 people because we're pissed off and we're engaged and we're trying to steer you
00:53:38.680 guys if you guys were doing a really really really good job we wouldn't be coming to the AGM so the
00:53:44.160 fact you're confirming that right this you said this is your first AGM yeah yeah yeah awesome
00:53:50.960 Yeah, yeah. So don't be shy. If you see me at the AGM, find me. I think I'll be, I might either be there as media with the Western Standard, but I'm also going to be there as a participant. I mean, I bought my, I'm a member. I want to vote, right? I don't want to just be an observer. But if you see me, don't be shy. Say hi. And I encourage you, like, find those MLAs and chat with them. They're open. They're humans too, right? So find them and chat with them. Thanks for calling.
00:54:18.700 All right. Thanks, Marty.
00:54:19.640 Yeah, awesome. Yeah, the other thing I was going to say, I'll give a quick, I think it's, I don't even know who, I wish I knew who now, I feel bad, I'm telling you guys things, but I don't have the links, but somebody, somebody online, like one of the, maybe it's one of the TPAs, maybe it's Jason Levine or somebody, somebody's selling t-shirts for the AGM, and let's say, I voted option two.
00:54:45.760 So that's a message, right? That's a cool message. So if like if a thousand people show up at the AGM with a T-shirt that says I voted option two, that's a pretty strong message to Danielle that you can't ignore that when she's going to be giving her speeches. So, all right, this might be the last call. Maybe it's the lady you called earlier. Go ahead. Call her. What's on your mind? And what's your name?
00:55:05.100 hello it's uh gordon here i'm marty um uh yeah if i'm the one you're looking for
00:55:16.200 go ahead gordon what's on your mind i just want to make a statement i just want to say something
00:55:22.520 about covid okay just let me allow here it's not a question i want to make a statement back when
00:55:28.460 when we had to go get the covid shot when it was when they said it was mandatory now some people
00:55:34.040 say well it was never mandatory well if you were working it was now this is my point back then i
00:55:40.920 found out i don't know how i found out about it was something called a serology test you get a
00:55:45.880 serology test you pay 50 out of your pocket they got back and he said i was negative that i was
00:55:51.800 not a carrier and that i was my system was immune to it i did not get the shot i was working part
00:55:57.640 time at the time okay i'm full you're tired now i went to my employer and i was a one-on-one i
00:56:04.620 told him this he said have you told anybody else this and i said no i kept it under my hat he said
00:56:11.000 please keep it quiet because it said it'll cause chaos and i said okay i'll do it because in my
00:56:16.860 book it's time people started doing finding us stuff for themselves because if i told people
00:56:21.740 that anyway they wouldn't believe me but you see that's all it took and it did cost me money
00:56:26.700 I never got a shot and I'm never going to get a shot. Now, with COVID, again, the vaccine is out. They're saying it's not mandatory. But if it's mandatory, I still got my piece of paper and I'm quite prepared to test myself again for 50 bucks. That's all I want to say.
00:56:42.980 No, no. Hey, we're on the same page. You're preaching to the choir. Congratulations. God bless you for doing that. I mean, I, you know, it was the biggest psychological operation in my lifetime, and the pressures to go get vaccinated were immense, right? And so you didn't succumb, and that's awesome. I didn't succumb, and a lot of us, a lot of other people did not. So spread that word, man. Spread that gospel. I'm 100% with you on that one.
00:57:09.840 i do every chance i get awesome marty have a good day you too thanks okay well okay well i i guess
00:57:17.920 i'm i better keep this sheet of paper because i really really wanted to talk about the eu and
00:57:23.200 ursula von der leyen coming to montreal and the snub that uh of of uh pspp uh pierre uh or or
00:57:32.860 or Plamondon, whatever.
00:57:35.940 Anyways, we'll cover that next week.
00:57:39.640 I never got to talk about the PBO.
00:57:42.620 I guess next week, probably the big topic for us
00:57:44.580 will be the budget, right?
00:57:45.580 Carney's budget is coming out on November 5th.
00:57:48.260 And the parliamentary budget officer
00:57:50.440 is already giving warning bells.
00:57:51.940 Like Carney wants to spend $700 billion more.
00:57:55.140 He's made $700 billion in promises
00:57:57.380 in like the last six months.
00:57:59.000 Money we don't have.
00:58:00.380 Money he's going to have to borrow
00:58:01.780 and the Bank of Canada increased the interest rate
00:58:04.060 yesterday. It's just going in a
00:58:05.880 bad direction. Tell you what,
00:58:07.840 let's do this next week. John, remind me,
00:58:09.700 next week,
00:58:10.700 no talking about Daniel Smith and the UCP.
00:58:14.200 Let's take a break from Daniel Smith and the
00:58:15.920 UCP next week. Let's talk about something else
00:58:18.080 and we'll go from there.
00:58:19.820 Got a couple of closing comments.
00:58:21.920 We're at the top of the hour.
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00:59:00.340 Like, that's crazy.
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00:59:10.720 Okay, thanks for calling in.
00:59:12.000 Great show.
00:59:12.520 I think we're working out the bugs. 1.00
00:59:14.140 Sorry for the lady who I couldn't hear. 0.85
00:59:17.380 John solved the problem.
00:59:18.500 I think the lower the volume in my earpiece, the better.
00:59:21.760 And I guess we'll do this again next week, same time.
00:59:25.900 and wishing you guys a happy Halloween
00:59:28.960 and a great weekend and see you next week.
00:59:31.680 Cheers, folks.
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