Western Standard - July 30, 2026


Lukaszuk’s gameplaying with electoral rules must end


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00:00:00.000 good day welcome to the
00:00:29.520 cory morgan show alberta is still a part of canada so i'm broadcasting within canada for today still
00:00:35.760 going to be that way for a few months but we got some interesting months ahead of us don't we lots
00:00:39.600 going on and and happening out there and i'll cover a lot of that um i'm gonna have on as a
00:00:45.600 guest a little while daryl comic he's uh for some people may be familiar with him or may not he's a
00:00:50.400 a party worker you know insider he ran for party president at one point with the ucp and he's been
00:00:56.240 very active in things down in calgary lougheed and uh it's a great businessman in south calgary
00:01:01.200 so we'll chatter just about some of the stuff in general going on down there because you don't hear
00:01:04.880 a lot you know mid-summer and what's happening there's still things happening there's still
00:01:08.320 plans going on i guess for the the future and what's going to be happening but uh we need
00:01:13.520 updates now and then for those of us who are not all necessarily plugged into all that's happening
00:01:19.040 be sure to use that comment scroll it is live we are interactive i see lz and gp saying good morning
00:01:24.640 from up in grand prairie good to see you there and the rest of you guys joining in on a summer day
00:01:30.080 edmonton's getting blasted with rain and misery and uh we've been getting dry out here for a
00:01:34.800 little while so uh yeah i'm doing my beekeeping harvest on friday so you can see me all swollen
00:01:39.840 and lumpy probably next week all right let's get on with another uh area what's got me going today
00:01:46.160 and it's uh mr lukasic and and elections alberta i mean the continuing farce of thomas lukasic's
00:01:51.760 campaign that's not a campaign, it's got to end. Election Alberta's continued refusal to apply
00:01:58.520 simple campaign rules upon a group that's clearly campaigning is undermining the credibility of the
00:02:03.420 entire electoral system in Alberta. Either Elections Alberta must end its willful blindness
00:02:08.900 or the courts are going to have to intervene. There isn't time for a legislative committee
00:02:13.060 to deal with the issue as a referendum date looms and having the government directly meddle in the
00:02:17.620 process would set a bad precedent. The game being played is descended into outright absurdity. The
00:02:23.060 rules for third-party advertising in a referendum are clear. They state, and I'll say it from there,
00:02:28.160 advertising must relate to a specific referendum question, must be advertising, and must attempt
00:02:32.980 to persuade an elector to vote in a particular way with respect to that referendum question.
00:02:37.540 Not terribly complicated, unless you're the chief electoral officer apparently. Any group or person
00:02:42.340 spending more than a thousand dollars advertising on a referendum campaign must register with
00:02:47.060 elections, Alberta must abide by fundraising and spending maximums and must disclose its funding
00:02:53.160 sources. Thomas Lukasik's Forever Canadian group has been traveling the province campaigning for
00:02:59.160 months and there's no doubt they're taking a side in the referendum. Lukasik has said as much many
00:03:04.280 times himself and they've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars now. Lukasik plays cute
00:03:09.500 saying he's just campaigning on unity in general and not the unity question itself.
00:03:14.040 It's the political version of a pestering child's game
00:03:17.320 when they put their finger within a millimeter of your face
00:03:19.440 while repeatedly chanting, I'm not touching you.
00:03:21.660 He's even opened three campaign offices
00:03:23.480 that literally say campaign on the signage outside of them.
00:03:26.620 It's as if he's going out of his way to give the finger to Albertans
00:03:29.360 who just want transparency in campaigns.
00:03:32.020 Perhaps that's exactly his intent.
00:03:33.900 The only person in the province who apparently believes
00:03:36.380 Lukasik's group isn't campaigning is the chief electoral officer.
00:03:40.140 Despite what must be thousands of complaints in their email now and on their phone lines,
00:03:44.320 he doggedly keeps claiming Forever Canadian isn't campaigning in the referendum.
00:03:48.440 He may as well be claiming the sky isn't blue.
00:03:51.020 The questions Albertans are now asking themselves is whether the chief electoral officer is hopelessly incompetent or hopelessly biased.
00:03:58.320 In both cases, it paints an ugly scenario for Alberta's democratic system.
00:04:01.800 The legitimacy of elections in Alberta rests on the perception of a total lack of bias and even-handedness in the application of electoral regulations.
00:04:10.480 Once that perception cracks, we can get a few harms.
00:04:14.500 First, public trust erodes.
00:04:17.120 Citizens who already distrust institutions seek confirmation that the system's rigged.
00:04:21.660 No matter which way the referendum results lean, the losing side may claim it was due to a biased or inept electoral agency.
00:04:27.740 They may claim the results are illegitimate and it'd be difficult to argue against if things don't
00:04:32.480 change. Second, a two-tier system invites cynicism and strategic gamemanship. The campaigns may shift
00:04:39.060 from trying to make their case based on the realm of democratic debate and go into a contest to see
00:04:43.360 who can find more electoral loopholes. How much longer are groups willing to have their campaigns
00:04:48.120 handicapped before they start seeking advantages through bending the rules? Such a campaign 0.98
00:04:52.740 atmosphere is going to erode public trust even further. And then the absence of disclosure. It
00:04:58.200 creates real risks of foreign or special interest influence. There are good reasons for enforced
00:05:03.080 disclosure of funding sources and campaigns. Who's funding Lukasik's group? Unions? China?
00:05:07.940 Martians? We have no way to know and the lack of disclosure invites speculation which may or may
00:05:12.760 not be fair. Supporters of Lukasik are being poorly treated as they don't know where the money they
00:05:17.520 donated is going. How much goes into the campaign? How much is compensating the people at the head
00:05:22.020 of it. And the fourth, and of the most concern, it damages the long-term authority of the
00:05:27.020 institution itself. Future elections and referendums inherit the distrust. Alberta faces a general
00:05:32.700 election in 2027, and how are citizens going to be able to feel confident when Elections Alberta
00:05:36.760 appears to have compromised its mandate of impartiality? When people lose faith in democracy,
00:05:42.240 the democracy will fail, and the mechanism for change then could become very ugly. Right now,
00:05:47.620 the handling of Forever Canadian is undermining trust. Equal rules, transparent application of
00:05:52.740 them, and a willingness to correct course are the only reliable path back to respect. The chief
00:05:57.720 electoral officer in Alberta seems to have a beef with the premier or the process for referendums
00:06:02.600 taking that beef out through selective application of the rules. Democracy is too important to leave
00:06:07.700 in the hands of a senior bureaucrat with a vendetta. If the chief electoral officer continues to refuse
00:06:12.680 to apply the rules equally, he's got to be replaced immediately through court intervention if need be.
00:06:17.620 enough is enough. Well, that's just got me going. How's it going, Dave? Good. I'll be a living
00:06:22.420 run for you in your head. Well, how can I not? I mean, I get tired of putting in all the, you know,
00:06:26.780 the work and maintaining and following the rules and listening to that man say he's campaigning
00:06:33.140 and then listening to this chief electoral bureaucrat say, no, he's not. Well, just believe
00:06:38.420 him when he's telling you. No wonder people are confused. Well, yeah. Well, and as I said,
00:06:42.940 and they're getting cynical and it's not good.
00:06:45.140 Bee harvest on Friday?
00:06:47.200 That's the day, yes.
00:06:48.100 Is it looking good?
00:06:48.960 It is.
00:06:49.540 They've been packing it away.
00:06:50.660 They're running a little behind,
00:06:51.580 but now they've just gone great guns.
00:06:53.260 I went and checked the hives out the other day
00:06:54.560 and it should be a good couple
00:06:56.180 to a few hundred pounds of honey out there.
00:06:57.700 Nice.
00:06:58.060 We have to get out on the end of the driveway
00:06:59.340 on weekends and sell it to cyclists going by.
00:07:02.000 Whatever it takes or throw it at them or whatever.
00:07:05.780 So hot off the presses,
00:07:07.800 Prime Minister Mark Carney and Premier Daniel Smith,
00:07:10.120 the press conference in Red Deer
00:07:12.000 And they've set up a $938 million fund for housing for Alberta.
00:07:19.300 So that'll help a few families get housing.
00:07:23.720 Some absolutely horrific, disgusting photos today of Justin Trudeau holidaying in the south of France and rubbing suntan lotion all over Katy Perry.
00:07:35.040 I've had the good fortune of not seeing those yet.
00:07:36.700 I hope I can stay there.
00:07:37.780 I suggest you don't, because they're nausea-inducing.
00:07:41.900 You know, I kind of blame myself, but I don't know why we're still covering this guy.
00:07:46.500 It's morbid fascination at this point.
00:07:48.960 People have just such an utter hatred for him.
00:07:51.420 They don't like to see him enjoying himself in his retirement.
00:07:56.640 Your colleague, Mitch Sylvester, has been talking about Elections Alberta.
00:08:00.380 He's issued a letter today calling for the legislature to review how Elections Alberta reviews petitions and how they eliminate a name and how they accept a name and all sorts of good stuff like that.
00:08:15.380 COVID is back in the news today on two fronts.
00:08:19.320 Dr. Anthony Fauci, you'll remember him.
00:08:22.880 He was called to testify for his actions in front of the Senate today.
00:08:27.460 And 111 times he invoked the Fifth Amendment and says,
00:08:32.940 on the advice of my attorney, I'm not going to answer that question.
00:08:36.600 So he's got the Republicans boiling in anger.
00:08:41.080 Speaking of mistrust building.
00:08:42.660 Yes, no kidding.
00:08:43.680 And Quebec court, there was a JCCF court case about the curfew there.
00:08:53.140 You remember Quebec had a curfew and one lady down there was fighting her ticket.
00:08:58.580 And the court said, we're going to uphold the ticket even though we find the curfew violated Charter of Rights.
00:09:05.860 So I don't see how you can do one and then the other.
00:09:08.840 Charter seems to be just a set of suggestions now.
00:09:11.320 Yeah.
00:09:11.500 Yeah.
00:09:11.900 Yeah, yeah. Donald Trump, using some presidential language today, says he's going to beat the effing out of Iran.
00:09:26.400 This is after they fired several missiles at U.S. bases in Jordan last night.
00:09:31.660 Oil prices are going up. Oil prices are going up. They were about 85 bucks a barrel the last time I checked.
00:09:38.800 And there's a good transportation battle brewing in Ontario at the moment.
00:09:43.200 You remember the feds last week refused permission to expand Billy Bishop Airport in Toronto.
00:09:50.020 So now the Ontario Conservatives say they might withdraw their support for that ludicrous high-speed rail thing.
00:09:58.680 Oh, whatever it takes.
00:10:00.960 Good for them.
00:10:02.060 And a sad story, going on to another large search down in Waterton.
00:10:09.080 81-year-old hiker has been missing down there for several days
00:10:12.960 and can't find any sign of him at the moment.
00:10:15.980 So that search continues today.
00:10:18.440 So the press conference was still going on with Carney and Smith.
00:10:23.500 Our legislature reporter, Will Vassar, was there
00:10:26.180 and was next in line to get a question.
00:10:28.840 So I'm hoping to hear some good news on that when I get out of here.
00:10:33.120 Well, yes, I haven't stolen you away from a pivotal Western Standard moment.
00:10:36.760 Pivotal Western Standard story.
00:10:38.000 I'm certain Will got there.
00:10:39.180 Okay, well, thanks, Dave.
00:10:40.420 I appreciate the update, and we'll see you for the pipeline.
00:10:43.480 See you later on the pipeline.
00:10:44.480 Right on.
00:10:45.540 So that is our news editor, Dave Naylor.
00:10:47.360 Lots of stories on the go.
00:10:48.900 As he pointed out, Will's up there covering the news at that conference.
00:10:53.320 We have a full newsroom.
00:10:54.700 We have reporters.
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00:11:34.320 Jacqueline good to see you uh Jess and GP working from home today which I see you must be working
00:11:39.700 if you're watching the show no I appreciate that um and uh yeah Jay Cummings in Rocky Mountain
00:11:47.080 House lots of folks tuning in from all over I do like doing these live I did a live feed just on
00:11:52.780 my own channel from home the other night and it stunk. I screwed it up and, uh, didn't connect
00:11:58.440 right. It was a kind of a mess, but in general, I like the live stuff. Cause even if I screw up,
00:12:02.880 whatever you let it go, you move on, you get beyond it like a dog, you know, kick some grass
00:12:06.820 over it and just carry on. And that's what we tend to do in the year. Cause yeah, we're not
00:12:12.020 looking at perfection. We're looking at interaction and covering a lot of things. Uh, before I get to
00:12:17.660 my guest, I'm looking forward to talking to Daryl. Uh, I just want to hit one new story that,
00:12:22.220 that's something else. Jason Kenney took a big run at supply management online. Just said it's
00:12:29.300 infuriating and this dairy cartel should be, you know, taken down and we don't, we shouldn't be
00:12:36.420 putting up with this and it's causing us trade issues. This was a man who was in government
00:12:41.760 for years, a majority government. Didn't say a bloody peep about it. We've been talking about
00:12:48.400 supply management. Those of us who are real conservatives have been talking about it since
00:12:51.540 the 90s. I think Kenny did back when he was at the Taxpayers Federation, but suddenly became dead
00:12:57.100 silent about it while he's in government, and now he's a free agent running around, and suddenly
00:13:01.380 he's found his principals again and is calling out supply management. I guess I'm glad he is
00:13:05.620 anyways, better late than never, but I'm tired of conservative politicians only speaking their
00:13:12.020 mind once they're out of office. We'll never change things if they can't find their balls 0.98
00:13:15.780 while they're in it. So, uh, Mr. Kenny, too little, too late. And, uh, should have spoken up 0.99
00:13:24.300 about a decade ago or so. All right. Well, let's talk a little more contemporary people working
00:13:29.240 within, uh, politics and in general and so on. Daryl, uh, Comick is coming on. He's, uh, as I
00:13:35.920 said, at the top of the show, been active, ran for party president with the United Conservative
00:13:40.380 party. He's been a very excellent hard worker down in Calgary-Lougheed for years, and he runs
00:13:46.620 a fantastic business down there with Fresh and Local Market and Kitchen. So let's bring him in
00:13:51.780 and have a chat. How's it going, Daryl? Oh, okay. We seem to, perhaps you're muted. I'm not getting
00:14:00.900 any sound from you, Daryl. Just a moment. You're muted, Daryl, I think. I can't hear you.
00:14:17.260 Do you hear me? All right. We'll work on some technical difficulties. I'm not getting a sound
00:14:24.180 out of Daryl, which, well, we'll see what we can find. John's going to work on that.
00:14:33.860 All right, what else have we got here? It throws me off my game. Daryl, if you can hear me at all,
00:14:41.460 there's going to be some message coming in the private chat for you. Can you wave if you hear
00:14:45.760 me? I see you down there. Daryl's not hearing me either, apparently. Okay. So while we work that
00:14:55.840 out and try to sort it out, another interesting story that popped up, Press Progress, if you're
00:15:02.260 familiar with them that's a uh union funded ed broadbent uh society um supposed news outlet
00:15:14.280 and they had the crap suit out of them because they put out uh and participated in some character
00:15:21.080 assassination of kaylin ford if folks might remember that was back in the kenny days too 0.96
00:15:26.440 he didn't stand up for he threw her under the bus when this came up where she was falsely 0.98
00:15:31.520 painted as a white nationalist
00:15:33.740 knocked out of her whole position
00:15:36.180 as a 0.57
00:15:37.060 candidate to run
00:15:40.060 for the UCP back then
00:15:41.760 and finally you know when it was
00:15:43.980 found to be a bunch of BS 0.96
00:15:45.180 she sued the crap out of them and now about six 0.71
00:15:48.060 of the defendants I think have settled out of court
00:15:49.780 already on that lawsuit I believe it's six
00:15:51.720 but some still haven't. Press Progress
00:15:53.740 hasn't and they were right in the
00:15:55.760 mix of this and now they've
00:15:58.020 been laying off some of their staff
00:15:59.520 because
00:16:01.040 apparently the lawsuit strained too much money out of them and they can't pay their bills due
00:16:07.080 to this lawsuit. Well, good on you, you idiots. I hope this really, I really hope Ford takes it 1.00
00:16:13.040 to these groups and runs them totally out of business. Because what they did to her was 0.98
00:16:18.140 horrific. This swarming, this cowardice, this character assassination, as I said, of an innocent
00:16:23.340 person for political reasons was just gross. And, uh, it, you know, I don't typically celebrate the
00:16:31.340 loss of jobs and people being laid off, but in this case, it was just beyond the pale. So if
00:16:37.780 they're, uh, losing at this point, I, I really have little sympathy for them. Sorry, just, uh,
00:16:45.260 thought it might be Daryl calling it somebody else. I usually don't answer my phone on here.
00:16:49.060 there's the downside of live. We never quite know what we're going to get. He kind of popped out of
00:16:53.980 the lobby. I hope he's maybe just rebooting the computer and we'll be back in soon. So the press
00:16:59.740 progress story, keep watching that. There's going to be more of this hitting the courts in later
00:17:03.960 October and it's going to be finished. People wonder about, you know, the future of legacy
00:17:09.180 media, the future of new media, independent media, things like that. How is it policed? How do you
00:17:15.240 maintain professionalism how do you keep misinformation from going out this is a painful
00:17:20.340 and ugly way to have to deal with it but going through the legal system and holding outlets to
00:17:27.280 account when they really heavily cross the line like this is uh the best way to do it i mean just
00:17:35.120 you know allow supply and demand to take care of it okay i think i see daryl in the lobby let's give
00:17:38.920 it another crack and see if we've got them this time bring them in hey daryl got them this time
00:17:43.640 there we are sorry excellent you're coming in loud and clear thank you very much I didn't want
00:17:48.400 to lose you and I was looking forward to this well you know it we've talked uh not so not so
00:17:55.600 long ago at uh Alberta Telethon and it was a lot of fun and I just think there's so much going on
00:18:00.780 out there that uh there's a lot of things people need to be thinking about well well there absolutely
00:18:05.860 is and we're in a kind of a a crazy complicated time and uh I haven't been a member of a party
00:18:13.560 though i certainly watch them extremely closely uh you know in the role i'm in but there's a whole
00:18:18.800 lot of nuts and bolts that have to move and over the summer you know there's the pancake circuit
00:18:22.360 and everybody's uh taking on light things but the party hasn't stopped the mechanisms haven't stopped
00:18:28.260 uh you know what what's happening in the ucp these days what are they getting ready for this year
00:18:33.480 sorry can you just say that one more time cory something uh glitched there on the
00:18:40.760 the studio. I can see your lips moving. I can see it now. I was just, I guess, asking for an update
00:18:46.320 on what's happening out in the UCP front, on the partisan front. I'm not really directly involved
00:18:51.380 in the parties these days, but I watch them very closely, and things don't stop over the summer.
00:18:56.260 They're kind of getting ready for the fall. What can we look forward to in this next few months
00:18:59.320 in this crazy, complicated time? Well, you see a lot of momentum going towards nominating candidates
00:19:06.880 in the various CAs. They're going across the province. They're doing it in pods. We see a lot
00:19:12.340 of success for the incumbents to continue on. This summer has been very busy in Calgary Shaw.
00:19:19.000 That was former riding for Rebecca Schultz. Mike Durie is the upcoming UCP candidate. And I guess
00:19:26.420 we're going to see in the next month or so, the Premier will call for a by-election down there.
00:19:32.740 And then likely sometime in September, you're going to see a by-election in Shaw.
00:19:37.600 So people are out there.
00:19:39.260 They're active.
00:19:40.680 But, of course, they have their, you know, there's a bit of a reluctance, I think, at times to get too far down the rabbit hole because there's a lot of unresolved issues even amongst friends.
00:19:53.620 Yeah, well, that's a risk.
00:19:55.680 You know, that's the internal division.
00:19:56.840 There's nobody conservatives like fighting more than each other.
00:20:00.100 It's one of our best skills.
00:20:02.160 Something I guess that the UCP is taking on, it's kind of taking a backseat because the whole independence referendum is eating up all of the airwaves lately.
00:20:08.920 But there's been health services changes, looking at allowing people to get MRIs without a referral or having doctors now be able to potentially do procedures outside of the public system.
00:20:23.240 How has things been going on that front?
00:20:25.420 well certainly i think we see that there's been some advancements of policies that will impact in
00:20:30.780 a positive way albertans i mean i think healthcare is a really good example where we see now you can
00:20:35.980 go out and you can get an mri you can get services you can pay for them directly and if people find
00:20:41.340 that or the or the doctor finds that that is in fact a condition there's some availability for
00:20:45.980 reimbursement but most most important i think people have to ask themselves about the system
00:20:51.020 is who is the client uh we have a giant health care system it takes up a lot of our money but
00:20:56.860 really the only client is the government because the client is he who pays and so there is no
00:21:02.380 competition there there's no real incentive for the system to actually service individuals other
00:21:08.860 than uh what people are directed to do i mean if if the hospital system system was a business and
00:21:15.820 there was a competition i think that people would go elsewhere and but i don't mean competition for
00:21:20.060 the money the government can still be that be the the payer of that but the determiner of where that
00:21:25.340 your money goes if it was in the hands of albertans i think that you would see drastic improvements
00:21:31.260 in service because it's the front line people no doubt in the healthcare system when you get there
00:21:36.060 they want to do everything they can for you but something is something is wrong internally and
00:21:42.060 it's a very big organization and there's a lot of moving parts there but why doesn't the system want
00:21:47.900 to give the best service for the best value to albertans i mean that's the big question that's
00:21:53.980 the third question you know everyone says health care is a problem yes uh we should change health
00:21:58.860 care yes uh let's split it in in four sections so that there can be more oversight yes but let's
00:22:05.420 remember who is the client what are they there for and what who is reluctant to get inside and
00:22:11.260 make the changes or who's inside that's reluctant to make changes for the betterment of of the
00:22:15.820 customer. Well, part of the challenge we've had is healthcare in Canada, you know, the system has
00:22:21.000 been made into a sacred cow. Any premier, and it's not just in Alberta, that dares to do anything
00:22:25.460 more than just throwing money at it, is going to be in for a battle with the protectors of the
00:22:31.320 status quo, the unions, some of those other medical associations and things. Going into an election
00:22:37.340 year, uh, with what's already a pretty divisive year, uh, with perhaps if the independence
00:22:45.260 thing is resolved for a little while, healthcare is probably going to be a top issue going into
00:22:49.000 that next 365 days. Is it really, uh, what the UCP wants front and center when they go into that?
00:22:54.320 Because Nietzsche hasn't been able to get much of a toehold anywhere, but he might be able to
00:22:59.180 find some ground on the health front. Well, health is something that everyone feels impacted by. And
00:23:05.020 of course, old people feel impacted by health like myself, young people feel impacted with
00:23:10.700 having children and taking care of children. I think the emerging issue is going to actually
00:23:16.040 be property rights. I think when we see what's going on in British Columbia and how that's
00:23:21.820 impacting actual people being able to get mortgages, I think that in Alberta, everyone,
00:23:26.740 not conservatives, not NDP, I think Albertans themselves should be the most concerned about
00:23:32.140 your property rights and the second thing i think you should be the most concerned about is censorship
00:23:37.340 and ability to actually have uh lively conversations good or bad about various
00:23:42.700 topics those are the two things that albertans should really be looking for health health care
00:23:47.420 if if we're not committed as a society as users as people inside to deliver the best service it
00:23:54.060 will be exactly what it is um but i think these other things are going to be a scope creep into
00:23:59.500 people's daily lives like if you can't go get a mortgage for your house because the bank doesn't
00:24:04.220 know if you actually have title to your property that's going to be a problem and that's actually
00:24:08.540 happening in british columbia right now so that particular infection is going to spread across the
00:24:14.140 the country and i think you start to see it over and over again yeah that's really kind of coming
00:24:19.980 again considering the seriousness of it under the radar it bc wasn't resolved it was a matter of
00:24:26.060 actually, the provincial government just said, well, don't worry, we'll backstop your mortgages
00:24:29.660 since the banks won't touch them with a 10-foot pole. Well, if they can't backstop the trillions
00:24:35.540 of dollars that all of BC's real estate must be worth, and there's pretty much claims on all of it.
00:24:39.980 And if people in Alberta think they're immune from these claims, I think they might be sadly
00:24:43.040 mistaken. Our courts are going after everything. Yeah, you see an interpretation that is certainly
00:24:48.640 favorable against those who have property, those who actually generate revenue, those who actually
00:24:55.960 add value i mean you only have to look at the gdp of the entire country to see that it's failing
00:25:00.600 that has been filling it's been covered up for years 10 years maybe more by uh destructive
00:25:07.240 immigration across the country and you know as soon as the immigration number dips you see the
00:25:12.040 gdp dip and when it dips you understand uh that it isn't really uh the creation of value it's
00:25:18.680 government spending that has been propping up the gdp and that actually isn't what gdp supposed to
00:25:24.520 to do. It's supposed to measure those things that create value in your society that's not
00:25:30.400 government spending. But of course, the definition has been modified and changed in order to pad
00:25:35.660 what people see as a very easy to observe KPI or keep right performance indicator.
00:25:43.400 So the issue though with property rights and free speech, things like that, we're strong
00:25:49.480 defenders of those things within Alberta, but the protection of them in the end tends to land in
00:25:54.000 ottawa and that kind of comes full circle back to a lot of the battle that might be coming
00:25:58.000 this october what can the provincial government do about it because i think if the provincial
00:26:02.800 government proves impotent in being able to protect us from those things a lot more people
00:26:07.520 are going to start considering that option of maybe just leaving the federation altogether
00:26:12.240 well i mean you only have to look at the reduction in media in the last two weeks if you look at
00:26:17.600 what's happened uh we've had radio stations go under uh we've had tele local news basically be
00:26:23.760 wiped off the map uh at various providers uh that sense of control of messaging is is very much in
00:26:31.440 toronto maybe it always has been or it's grown to be but now now it's very obvious uh that it's
00:26:38.160 central so can uh can albertans control the message that they receive and information so
00:26:44.480 that they can make sound decisions i think that that's been at risk for quite a long time i think
00:26:49.280 that's been the rise of uh what we would call alternative media although i almost think that
00:26:54.400 somewhere like the western standard your show other podcasts across i mean i mean those have
00:26:59.680 become the norm because people uh really can't uh find uh news to weigh out and make a special
00:27:07.040 opinion i mean i just found a brand new uh site the other day called 1867x.com and you can have
00:27:14.800 like a hundred different feeds of podcasters and information of variety of positions talking and
00:27:21.280 allow yourself to to uh understand what's going on so i think that people have to be engaged not
00:27:27.760 just in politics in politics but they have to be engaged in the everyday what's going on around
00:27:33.360 them and also stand up for something i mean if you stand for nothing then you're going to get
00:27:38.800 exactly what we were seeing but the real resistance uh to the fall of what i think is a fall of
00:27:46.240 morality in our country comes because people they get tired they get overwhelmed uh they say well
00:27:52.320 what can one person do and what i can say to people all over the place is you can do a lot
00:27:57.040 you can be involved and you can just say no i mean um your consent is important for a lot of
00:28:04.640 the problems that are happening and you need to start to say no well and beyond just voting uh
00:28:11.360 participation in general actually you know an engagement in some ways we've been seeing it
00:28:16.320 in unprecedented levels within alberta uh getting back to you know the united conservative party
00:28:21.440 AGMs with 6,000 people, 4,000 people, one coming in Calgary this fall, I have a feeling is going 1.00
00:28:29.680 to be a shaker like we've never seen before. I hope it's a productive shaker that's coming, 1.00
00:28:34.660 but that's where people can actually get their feet on the ground and see what's happening. 1.00
00:28:39.520 You know, what do you think we're in for this year? I mean, it's just such a wild year.
00:28:45.280 Well, I think, you know, you're exactly right. That's going to be a very big event. I think
00:28:49.840 just the very early bird ticket sales were like 3,600. If you compare that to other years,
00:28:56.200 the most was in Red Deer. It was 1,800. That's when we had almost over 6,000 people at our AGM.
00:29:03.100 I mean, we're tracking probably right now in the 8,000 to 10,000 range of people who
00:29:08.280 are very much involved. Remember, we're in between election years, right? So that's very unusual.
00:29:13.620 And that started, I think, four years ago. We saw the rise of people and people wanting to
00:29:19.820 say, hey, I want to be involved. And that actual participation has caused a lot of confusion
00:29:24.980 and a lot of conflict for government and for political parties in general, because
00:29:30.740 people aren't just going away and being told this is what's going to happen. And people ask,
00:29:36.360 like I say, the third question, and there's no answer as often to the third question that talks
00:29:41.200 about common sense. So we're coming up to a, it's going to be fiery. I think there's going to be a
00:29:47.020 lot of, I know a lot of the policies that are going to be put forward. We talk about accountability
00:29:51.220 of MLAs. They talk about how can Alberta in and of itself protect itself from Canada? How do we
00:29:58.280 protect ourselves from the growing debt? How do we get involved to say, hey, look, we know the RCMP
00:30:02.940 contract runs out in 2032. They have no intention of running police services in Alberta. So let's
00:30:08.100 just stop the facade that we don't need our own provincial police force. We need our own
00:30:13.420 provincial police force because there will be no service provider so the a lot of the story that
00:30:18.420 gets told gets couched in these things that there will be an outcome regardless and that's one of
00:30:24.100 those things that that is regardless I also think you know we have this whole argument over MOUs
00:30:29.160 right so you get this at the last AGM the premier announced the MOU for the pipeline well MOUs are
00:30:37.220 don't mean anything. We see that all the time. They're just outlines. And if it's not written
00:30:44.660 in an agreement, if there's not a shovel in the ground, it doesn't really mean much. So
00:30:47.960 people are smart. And I think that's the engagement that we're seeing. You're talking
00:30:52.720 about the growth of attendance at UCP conventions, but you see that growth happening involvement at
00:30:59.200 CA level as well. And because of that, it does make the party stronger. There's no doubt about
00:31:03.760 it uh but it does mean that the party apparatus needs to um reconstruct itself uh into an
00:31:11.840 environment that says that the grassroots has a lot to say and they have a expectation a very
00:31:17.680 high expectation because don't forget those six or eight thousand people at the convention are
00:31:21.920 the six or eight thousand people knocking on doors those are the people that are going to take the
00:31:25.920 ucp over the finish line for the next election yeah well there's that interesting balance now
00:31:30.720 Now that we're getting such a populist, you know, well attended.
00:31:35.220 I'm loving seeing it.
00:31:36.160 I mean, I can't imagine an 8,000 person AGM.
00:31:38.960 The coordination to try and make it functional is going to be challenging.
00:31:42.480 But also, you've also gathered, though, the most active people in conservative circles all at once.
00:31:47.860 And they might take policy stances that are very popular in that room, but might not be popular with the electorate at large.
00:31:56.040 And that puts the elected members of the party in a difficult position sometimes.
00:32:00.100 policy-wise where you know you could stay true purely to the principles that came out on the
00:32:05.220 floor but you might lose the general election if you stick to them how do you think they can
00:32:09.280 achieve that balance because I think as we get more and more engaged they're going to be more
00:32:13.340 acutely feeling that pressure from the membership to actually act on what the members want to see
00:32:17.120 well I think I think inevitably you'll see overall reluctance by the elected MLAs to actually respond
00:32:23.140 to their party and they do that maybe they've done that in the past and it's never really meant
00:32:29.120 anything but i think nowadays if you're not representing the members who are most active
00:32:33.760 those people that help get you elected then there there will be a come to jesus moment for them
00:32:40.400 um but i mean i'll give you a really good example of a policy that i see making it to the floor to
00:32:45.040 the top 30 and uh you know in alberta we get about 12 billion billion dollars a year in in royalties
00:32:53.360 and those royalties are all deposited in Toronto Bank and that Toronto Bank makes about 880
00:33:00.320 million dollars in fees on our 12 billion dollars in royalties. Well why is it that the Alberta
00:33:06.960 government does not want to build out the infrastructure and capacity for financial
00:33:12.960 institutions in Alberta? We have the ATB, we've got service credit union that's 22 billion dollars
00:33:20.400 in size we've got a number of credit unions that could take a piece of that and that money could
00:33:26.000 be in alberta that would make alberta stronger but you see the refusal of the government to
00:33:31.520 actually act like the government that is protecting alberta it becomes questionable at times and this
00:33:36.880 is really the undertow of uh the grassroots why can't we use common sense to manage the affairs
00:33:43.840 for alberta for the benefit alberta and why why can't we make it alberta forever i mean i watch
00:33:50.240 canada forever or whatever les gazek is doing and he doesn't qualify for any rules uh to talk about
00:33:58.320 whatever he's talking about he's got campaign offices and buses and stuff so i think citizens
00:34:03.440 should be saying look we're about alberta first we're about when i ran on this uh in the party
00:34:08.560 last year to say look we need to put alberta first in our decision making we need to say hey
00:34:13.040 What is good for Alberta will ultimately be good for Canada in whatever way that that shakes out.
00:34:18.380 But if people, you know, they have a lot of permutations and combinations of what that means.
00:34:22.000 But, you know, we got to take care of ourselves at home right now.
00:34:25.600 And I think one good example is repatriating our 12 billion dollars in deposits into Alberta institutions and building that capacity.
00:34:33.940 That's something the government can do today.
00:34:36.360 We don't need a referendum. We don't need a permission.
00:34:38.960 We could do it now.
00:34:40.540 But, you know, there's a real reluctance to do the right thing.
00:34:44.720 I remember at the AGM, we had the Alberta Bill of Rights.
00:34:48.000 I mean, as conservatives, we should be collecting freedoms and rights like hockey cards, because
00:34:53.260 you don't really know when that hockey card or when that right's going to be super valuable.
00:34:57.920 And that's something that the government showed that they were reluctant to do again.
00:35:01.360 So I'm not exactly sure where that puts the government itself, separate from the party.
00:35:06.520 the party is really the people that helped get the members elected and the government in and of
00:35:11.640 itself is really a cabinet not caucus but cabinet and so uh there should be pressure on cabinet to
00:35:19.320 do the right thing and i think that there should be more pressure on cabinet to do the right thing
00:35:24.120 and that's what the party in and of itself should be able to do i remember when the ndp got elected
00:35:29.800 the first 44 things that they they ran through the legislature i cringed at just about every
00:35:34.280 one of them but they didn't seem to care what the conservatives thought they were just going to do
00:35:37.720 what they're going to do and our our government at times doesn't do um everything that they should
00:35:43.640 do to advocate and advance conservative values well it's going to be a a fascinating few months
00:35:50.680 and a fascinating gathering i mean a lot of how the tone is going to be at that agm is going to
00:35:57.320 depend on how people vote on october 19th not just on that question number 10 but on the one to nine
00:36:02.680 going prior to it as well. And the debates are going to be interesting, if nothing else. Just
00:36:11.080 the question is whether or not they'll be productive. As you said, like before I let you
00:36:16.020 go, the other part, I mean, it's going to feel like you're a tiny cog in a giant wheel if you're
00:36:20.560 at an AGM with eight or 10,000 people, which is still be a lifetime experience. I suggest everybody
00:36:25.380 get out to do. But if you really want to have a part on it and really want to exert yourself,
00:36:30.700 I mean, getting involved in your local constituency association is where you can really have an impact.
00:36:35.340 And I know that's where you've done a lot of work and holding your local representatives accountable to things and, you know, hopefully celebrating them.
00:36:43.660 So we're fortunate.
00:36:45.260 You know, I represent in Calgary Lockheed.
00:36:48.120 We have MLA or Bouchard who's who's OK with being accountable to the people.
00:36:52.480 Right. Like he's OK with standing up for what the members say.
00:36:56.920 And, you know, I understand that we have a political system
00:37:01.280 and it costs him a lot as far as what advancement could look like.
00:37:06.520 And they basically tell him that, you know, because you do that,
00:37:10.420 this is how it is for you.
00:37:12.260 But he's okay with that because he's elected by us.
00:37:15.300 He wants to do right by the people that get him voted there.
00:37:19.700 And I commend him and just several others that think
00:37:23.700 that they would rather stand up for the voter
00:37:26.580 than just to spear it along something
00:37:30.280 that just doesn't sit right.
00:37:32.420 Well, I knew the clock would move fast and it did,
00:37:34.920 but I really appreciate your time today
00:37:36.420 because I don't want people to forget
00:37:37.560 everything else is still happening.
00:37:39.220 These mechanisms are still happening.
00:37:40.560 Summer, a referenda, all sorts of stuff is going on,
00:37:43.260 but these things are going too.
00:37:44.480 And we've got to kind of at least take a moment away
00:37:46.800 from the sun and watch these things
00:37:48.920 and get ready for the fall.
00:37:50.040 As you said, the early bird tickets
00:37:51.120 are already flying out there.
00:37:53.700 So where can people find more information on what you're up to?
00:37:57.300 And I really would like to hear a bit more about that fantastic place for food and fresh and local stuff down in South Calgary, because it really is a brilliant spot.
00:38:07.620 Yeah, well, the Fresh and Local Marketing Kitchens is in Avenida Village.
00:38:10.340 We have 40 small businesses in there.
00:38:13.560 That's a food hall and a farmer's market, all tied into one.
00:38:16.480 You can come and see us.
00:38:17.480 We're open Thursday to Sunday.
00:38:19.500 We are very much connected to the earth.
00:38:22.680 we have over 275 local producers right now you know it's corn season it's berry season
00:38:28.520 uh it's peach season it's vegetable season it's pieces i mean it's just the height of everything
00:38:33.640 so we encourage everyone to come out it's a great way of supporting local gdp which is very alberta
00:38:39.960 and you will see there that we do advocate to eat alberta first be local i mean this really is an
00:38:47.080 important part of uh giving us resiliency for food sustainability and we people throw around the words
00:38:53.160 food sustainability what that really means is how you spend your money matters and if you spend your
00:38:57.560 money locally you will have food when there's uh tariffs when there's shortages when there's
00:39:02.120 supply chain crises if you don't uh then you won't and uh it's it's a very uh simple thing to keep
00:39:08.680 in mind but yeah come and see us at freshandlocal.ca and if you're interested in what we're
00:39:13.960 we're doing in Calgary Loughy you can visit us at ucpcalgaryloughy.ca you'll see all of the
00:39:20.380 information on the town halls that we've had the courage to listen which was a big town hall
00:39:24.140 that spoke to what would what would a sovereign Alberta look like within a framework of United
00:39:30.580 Canada and we posed a lot of questions we have video we have documentation in fact Ben Trudeau's
00:39:37.300 book enough started because he was one of the speakers the impetus for that the value of freedom
00:39:43.160 got written uh to present at that particular event so it was kind of the foundation for
00:39:47.960 much of the discussion for albertans to explore and to understand and to know where they could go
00:39:53.880 great well thank you very much for giving us some of your time today daryl and uh for the work you
00:39:58.280 do and i'm sure we'll talk again soon i apologize for the earlier technical trouble thank you so
00:40:03.960 much corey for everything you're doing it happens it's all good thanks daryl so yeah guys one more
00:40:09.400 time daryl comic uh and yeah fresh local markets you can see down south i i'm just i mean it's not
00:40:14.360 just that he's don't worry he's not a paid advertiser anything i found that spot over the
00:40:18.760 past years through accidentally through political things i'm embarrassed to say i didn't even know
00:40:22.280 it was there and i tell you if you want a variety of all sorts of potential local foods there's
00:40:27.720 vendors and and uh restaurant type of things you know food fair kind of but but these are unique
00:40:32.680 these are small owners these are all different types of nationalities but it's still all local
00:40:37.480 produce, plus the market aspect of it, which is local. And that's where people can vote with their
00:40:42.420 wallets, vote with their feet. This is what it's about, about being Albertan, being pro-Alberta.
00:40:47.740 And Daryl has done so with managing that place down there. Another spot mentioned quickly was,
00:40:53.040 yeah, Bolo Valley Credit Union, I believe they have a branch in there now. That's about as purely
00:40:57.760 an Albertan financial institution as you can get. That issue that Ben Trudeau has talked about,
00:41:03.240 that Daryl brought up, we're so glad he did with these royalties. Again, a simple change
00:41:08.760 on something so ridiculous that we can keep that many millions of dollars in Alberta just by saying
00:41:16.200 we're going to keep the cash here. We know the royalties came from here. Why on earth are we
00:41:20.820 sending them all the way out to a, well, the way I look at it, a foreign bank only, you know,
00:41:26.400 to collect it back and let them collect the interest and money on it. Keep it here. Why is
00:41:31.500 the government reticent to do that? But the only way to get them to move on things and things like
00:41:37.780 that is to be active. Bad government thrives on apathy. And the more you stay home, the more
00:41:45.820 they get away with. People have been frustrated with the UCP. I think there's a lot of good people
00:41:51.600 in there, a lot of good elected people. I still like Danielle, though I've been wondering about
00:41:55.280 a lot of her stances this last while. But you've got to stay on their case or they will deviate
00:42:01.260 off into the directions we don't want them to. As he talked about that Bill of Rights that was just
00:42:06.060 sort of a beat and switch. It came out in Red Deer. Everybody talked about it. Everybody voted
00:42:08.900 and then it just kind of didn't go where it was supposed to go. The next step after AGMs when
00:42:14.480 members put out their view is the nominations, is the local area, is the local candidate. That's
00:42:21.460 at the constituency level. And even if the party leadership and cabinet, as Daryl pointed out,
00:42:28.560 aren't really reflecting things well if they start getting that much pressure to their local
00:42:33.400 representatives you can make change you can make impact so i just i did want to cover and talk
00:42:38.260 about that and uh you know just because people forget about it in summer when things are going
00:42:43.160 uh some of the the other talk uh about you know elections alberta and these concerns with it
00:42:50.160 and i am concerned with it i i know some of those were mentioning too with the the vote counting and
00:42:55.540 Dave mentioned that. So with the, with the, another vote counting,
00:42:58.140 the petition counting and a whole bunch of them got disallowed.
00:43:02.060 And I know there's differing versions on whether people were actually asked if
00:43:05.380 they knew exactly when they signed and when they didn't and stuff like that.
00:43:09.340 These are similar to even a small petition I had to fill out when I ran,
00:43:14.300 I don't know what it was 15 years ago or something for the libertarian party,
00:43:17.080 just to make a point, ironically,
00:43:18.360 some of it was as I wanted to get on the local candidates case for supply
00:43:21.240 management. Like, and it was under no illusion. I was, you know,
00:43:23.800 win a federal seat with the Libertarian Party, but I wanted to run, and I did that. It's fine,
00:43:27.560 no regrets. Part of the process, though, is going out and getting signatures from people so you can
00:43:33.460 run, and I made a mistake. I'm in a rural area. I got a whole bunch of signatures from people
00:43:38.640 gave me rural box numbers and not a physical address. I had to whip out there and get more
00:43:45.120 signatures. Still, they'll always find a handful where they're going to be disallowed. That's just
00:43:51.280 natural. You can't read one. You can't reach somebody. They aren't on the elections list or
00:43:55.080 something. But the amount that they found on the Stay Free Alberta list really raises alarm bells
00:44:02.860 with me. I mean, it was nearly, what, 20% that they disallowed? I went to a number of the signing
00:44:08.460 stations. I wasn't a volunteer on them and everything, but I went to check them out and
00:44:12.940 chat with people. I watched how meticulously people worked. I watched how clearly they made
00:44:17.320 sure to write literally within the lines, make sure to get the proper identification and the
00:44:20.900 whole works. To see that many disallowed really, really stinks. I'm just seeing so many levels of
00:44:27.500 mistrust coming out of elections in Alberta, and it is so dangerous. That's what I said in my
00:44:30.580 opening monologue. There's consequences much bigger than you imagine if your electoral authority
00:44:35.820 loses the respect and the trust of the citizens. The other thing is the abuse of the referenda
00:44:40.720 system in general. The anti-coal mine petition by Corb Lund. Similar, where it got wiped out with
00:44:49.840 the signature count on I don't support what he was pushing on that but the bottom line of a
00:44:55.500 referendum and citizens initiated is supposed to mean that it means the citizens can override the
00:45:00.640 government it means the citizens can take that into their hands whether the government likes it
00:45:04.300 or doesn't like it and they can initiate the policy change but we see the government bending
00:45:09.440 over and twisting in circles and doing all sorts of things both on the bureaucratic level with
00:45:13.640 elections Alberta and I don't think elections Alberta is a friend of Premier Smith I don't
00:45:17.260 give that impression at all. But we also see Premier Smith kind of twisting and bending things
00:45:21.180 around to avoid questions on referendum that she didn't want either. Even if Lund's numbers had
00:45:26.700 come in for the petition, it sounds like they were finding ways not to let it get on a ballot for a
00:45:31.100 referendum, which really ruins the spirit of the whole bloody thing to begin with. I think we're
00:45:36.020 on the right track maybe, but we got a whole lot more to iron out. And one of the immediate things
00:45:41.580 is Elections Alberta and concerns is commenter John there saying too many alarm bells.
00:45:46.540 absolutely uh but boy we're juggling 100 balls right now you know but it was nice to talk
00:45:53.360 with daryl and get you know a little away from the independent stuff for a little bit but still
00:45:56.880 it all kind of ties together we're in for a amazing year and if you're looking to go to
00:46:01.740 that annual general meeting yeah you might want to make your plans and get ready earlier rather
00:46:06.100 than later because it's going to be a massive affair the important thing is just to make sure
00:46:09.580 it's a good and productive one okay that's the time i have for today thanks for tuning in you
00:46:13.920 guys uh be sure to watch for the pipeline tonight a few of us will break down some more issues and
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