Western Standard - September 14, 2026


MARTY UP NORTH: 25 years after 9⧸11, Canada is a very different country


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00:00:00.000 happy september 10th everyone uh welcome back to the show
00:00:28.000 wow i mean it's raining outside it's gloomy um it is a gloomy day in more ways than one
00:00:37.640 summer's over i mean what a what a rapid fast lousy summer we had here in alberta i mean it
00:00:45.280 just went by so fast and it feels like every long weekend and there aren't that many long weekends
00:00:52.020 in the summer right i mean we got may long weekend one in june one in july one in august and one in
00:00:56.800 September and it seems that every one of them was just rain rain rain um and and and then here we
00:01:04.140 are today um actually I'm trying to yeah John has it as the topic on the top there 25th anniversary
00:01:09.900 of 9-11 and but but before I get into that uh just also another gloomy day today in the sense
00:01:17.520 it is the one-year anniversary of the assassination of Charlie Kirk so that was a year ago
00:01:22.840 um i remember when that happened last year i remember the feeling of like shock and and then
00:01:31.540 how people quickly here in calgary in particular we had a beautiful vigil for him like the next
00:01:37.600 day almost and it and how it spontaneously happened uh grassroot down at the city hall
00:01:43.860 um you know just um anyways just want to just want to recognize that uh i mean i want to try
00:01:51.800 And again, it's a call-in show and I want to, you know, I got some gloomy topics today.
00:01:57.000 I got some other ones that are a little more positive, but it is a call-in show.
00:02:00.380 So please, you know, the numbers on the bottom there.
00:02:03.240 And maybe I'll ask you a question to facilitate the call-in today.
00:02:07.160 Where were you on September 11th, 2001?
00:02:12.760 And do you remember it, right?
00:02:14.900 Because so tomorrow is the 25th anniversary of that event, which like I was thinking about that the other day.
00:02:21.760 like 25 years ago and not perfectly statistical but 25 years kind of means that like there's a
00:02:30.980 big chunk of the country like there's probably 20 or 30 percent of the people that are living in
00:02:36.940 canada today or around the world that were not born in 2001 you know what i mean so for for for
00:02:43.640 a large percentage of people this has become history now you know 9-11 is something that
00:02:50.300 they learn in school. It's one of those big moments in life. And that I live through, you
00:02:55.960 know, I can think of several big moments that I've lived through in life. I lived through the fall of
00:02:59.580 the Berlin Wall. I lived through 9-11 and the shuttle disaster and, you know, COVID and things
00:03:06.620 like that. I did not live through, you know, World War II or other events in life. Actually, and so
00:03:14.340 9-11 is moving into that category now. It's moving into that category of history.
00:03:20.300 for so many people and um and and i want to talk about 9-11 a little bit and i want to remember
00:03:27.640 it today but i don't want to i don't want to politicize 9-11 of like exactly why it happened
00:03:32.520 and who caused it right that's not what remembrances are right when we remember for instance when we
00:03:37.080 when we have november 11th and we remember or fallen we don't focus on that day on why they
00:03:43.760 went to fight and and so forth we focus on the fallen and so for 9-11 today i just want to focus
00:03:49.260 quickly on um the the victims and the the heroes that the rescuers and and some of that right
00:03:57.900 and so and let me and and and then i will bring it back to something else that's happening today
00:04:03.180 mark carney's in in banff and i think mark is missing an opportunity by not being in new york
00:04:10.060 tomorrow so i'll i'll bring it to that and i'll share a sort of my personal story about 9-11 but
00:04:15.980 So what happened on 9-11, in case you don't remember, right?
00:04:19.520 So on 9-11, you know, September 11th, 2001,
00:04:25.680 I was waking up in the morning and I watched the news
00:04:28.660 and I hear that a plane had hit the World Trade Center.
00:04:32.380 And I left and I went to go to work
00:04:34.540 and then, you know, thinking that it was just a small plane.
00:04:37.960 And then when we get to work half an hour later
00:04:40.400 and I'm listening on the radio
00:04:41.660 and you find out that, no, it wasn't a small plane,
00:04:44.320 it was a big plane.
00:04:45.180 and and then i thought okay well that's an unfortunate coincidence and then there was
00:04:50.160 a second plane and then we knew something was happening and it um it it caused you know it
00:04:57.200 was devastating i mean two towers in new york collapsed and uh over 3 000 americans that were
00:05:02.940 in those buildings died that day including a lot of people like a lot of people from the new york
00:05:08.340 fire department and police who had rushed in when others were evacuating others were rushing in to
00:05:14.480 do their job right and the towers collapsed and killed over 3 000 americans and it killed also
00:05:20.720 you know 24 canadians that day and and and but but i want to and when i remember what i want to
00:05:28.080 remember and what i want to focus on for just for today for tomorrow is is is what happened between
00:05:34.560 our two countries that day right we came like we were the first people to offer assistance to the
00:05:41.520 americans like and i've said this all along right in light of like this insanity that's going on
00:05:47.520 temporarily in our country with this trade war and everything else we like let's remind ourselves
00:05:52.640 like we live we're next door to americans that are fundament like that are almost identical to
00:05:58.440 us culturally like to to to we we have to go out of our way you know if you're traveling in europe
00:06:04.980 and you speak somebody will say are you an amer like are you a canadian or are you an american
00:06:08.880 We have to distinguish ourselves.
00:06:10.300 We're almost indistinguishable to the rest of the world.
00:06:13.120 It's the longest undefended border.
00:06:15.140 We've been neighbors forever.
00:06:17.120 We fought each other early, early on, like in the 1700s and in the 1800s.
00:06:23.220 We had some skirmishes between our two sides, but mostly it was the British and the French
00:06:28.120 that happened on this territory.
00:06:31.660 But fundamentally, since the existence of the U.S. and the proper existence of Canada,
00:06:36.640 since 1867 we since the two have been full nations we've never fought each other
00:06:42.800 you know we were part we were side by side in world war one we were side by side in world war
00:06:47.540 two side by side in korea uh an incredible number of us actually went and fought alongside them in
00:06:54.600 vietnam and 9 11 right 9 11 we we offered all the assistance we could on that day and then there was
00:07:01.420 this other really wonderful story that happened on 9-11 right because two planes crashed into the
00:07:07.900 world trade center so then the americans who control their airspace said holy smokes we got
00:07:12.480 to shut down our airspace so they shut down their airspace now while while they do that there's
00:07:18.980 literally a hundred planes flying from europe on their way to north america to the u.s and where
00:07:26.600 did all those planes land on that day they landed in gander newfoundland like if you've never heard
00:07:31.880 the story of gander newfoundland look up the story of gander newfoundland and let me tell you why
00:07:35.820 gander is important right gander is like a town in the interior of newfoundland that became really
00:07:43.200 big in the 70s and 80s and 90s because in in the early era of jet travel actually all the way until
00:07:51.200 the 90s let's say when a when a when a when a passenger jet left you know new york or toronto
00:07:58.160 and flew over to europe they couldn't carry enough fuel to get all the way there so they always had
00:08:02.640 to stop in gander and refuel so gander became has a nice huge airport that's that basically for
00:08:09.920 generate for decades was simply a a fuel stop a pit stop right but nonetheless it's a big airport
00:08:16.640 there and so on 9 11 when the u.s shuts down their airspace all these planes are looking for some
00:08:22.200 place to land they landed in gander and you know don't quote me but something like 200 planes landed
00:08:27.120 in gander 200 planes times 100 people per plane right that's like that's 20 000 people appear in
00:08:32.780 gander and gander's only got 5 000 people living there if that and what did the people of gander do
00:08:38.580 in brotherhood in friendship they they took in all those people into their homes and a lot of
00:08:44.700 those people were Americans. They took them into their homes. They set up places to feed them,
00:08:51.920 to shelter them, to provide clothing and stuff like that. And it took a long time for all that
00:08:55.840 bottleneck for the world to return semi-normal and all those planes to return. And in the years
00:09:02.980 subsequent, in all the years subsequent, every year on 9-11, there's been big celebrations in
00:09:07.820 places like Gander. It's always been recognized. Americans go there to reminisce. Governors have
00:09:14.600 gone there i think i think presidents have gone to gander over the last 20 years to talk about 0.98
00:09:19.380 you know to to thank the people of gander and and unfortunately this year because of the crap that's
00:09:25.740 going on between our two nations the the you know the gander is going to have a celebration but i
00:09:30.940 i'm pretty certain that they refused they they they said to the americans don't come which i
00:09:37.240 find unfortunate right and and and then the other thing that happened as a result of 9-11 the other
00:09:42.300 way that we came to the to the you know that we showed our our alliance with the americans
00:09:47.500 is you know i don't want to get political but there was a war after that i mean it resulted
00:09:52.860 in a war and and we ended up sending people to afghanistan and canada fought alongside the
00:10:00.720 americans fought the taliban and others in afghanistan and in places and we fought there
00:10:06.680 from 2001 to 2014 like some people don't you know when you mention wars to canadians the first ones
00:10:13.500 that come to mind is probably world war ii and and world war one and korea is forgotten but
00:10:19.800 afghanistan has the distinction of actually being our longest war we were in afghanistan for 13
00:10:26.340 years officially in a combat role in a war and so alongside the americans and we took it on the
00:10:33.080 in there like like so many others i mean we had 158 uh canadian armed forces casualties in
00:10:39.540 afghanistan during those 13 years so and and and so i i really wish and then today so today this
00:10:46.960 week again you know we'll we'll talk a little bit about the the ongoing trade war saga which we're
00:10:54.740 losing but by the way let me take a quick chat here take a sip here i'm not it doesn't take long
00:11:01.140 to get a dry mouth when you do all the talking folks feel free to call in like please like i
00:11:05.860 said call in and tell me tell me your your uh your 9-11 story and i'll and i'll tell you a good
00:11:11.480 my 9-11 story but um but you know today carney is in alberta so he flew in here yesterday with the
00:11:21.100 with his uh cabinet and they're on their way to do their annual or their fall retreat in banff
00:11:27.900 And I'm sure he'll make a statement from Banff tomorrow,
00:11:31.240 you know, commemorating 9-11.
00:11:33.200 But I kind of wish that instead of doing that tomorrow,
00:11:36.000 I kind of wish he was in New York.
00:11:37.420 And if he didn't want to be in New York
00:11:38.900 because he can't set aside his differences,
00:11:41.180 he could have at least gone to Gander or someplace like that.
00:11:44.380 So I just find that Carney's misreading the room this week
00:11:50.560 with what's going on in, you know, in the bigger context.
00:11:54.280 um i just a quick story about myself in in afghanistan you know or not afghanistan i wasn't
00:12:02.980 in afghanistan uh just 9-11 i i re you know how when you belong to social media like facebook
00:12:09.060 and stuff like that these old stories pop up well i had an old story pop up on my facebook and it
00:12:13.480 was a weird reminder so i was working in 2001 uh i was a young engineer living in edson alberta
00:12:21.500 working for talisman energy and my family was growing my i had two kids at that point karen
00:12:27.340 my wife was pregnant with our third and i was looking for new opportunities and i got a job
00:12:33.740 offer from saudi aramco i applied for a job as an expat in saudi arabia and i got a job offer from
00:12:41.260 saudi aramco on september 1 2011 and i accepted the offer on september 2nd 2011. so i accepted
00:12:50.700 an offer so i was on my way i was leaving canada and i was going to go work in saudi arabia
00:12:56.540 and um and as part of that i was getting ready for some onboarding so saudi uh saudi aramco
00:13:05.020 had uh scheduled me and my wife for uh what they called an in-country orientation but in houston
00:13:15.100 texas so i was supposed to fly to houston texas on september 14th 2011 and the reason i was going
00:13:22.220 to houston with my wife is we're going to meet representatives from saudi aramco go through some
00:13:27.820 cultural orientation and preparation and stuff like that for the eventual move well needless to
00:13:33.980 say on on september 11th when i wake up and i see the two planes hitting the world trade and then
00:13:39.660 within a day or two we start mentioning the words terrorism and the links to the middle east and
00:13:44.700 everything else my wife and i can't just blame this on my wife myself included decided yeah i'm
00:13:51.500 not doing this i'm not up uplift you know i'm not um disrupting my family to move to saudi arabia
00:13:58.060 with this happening so i reneged on the offer i called saudi aramco and i reneged i said i'm not
00:14:04.140 coming and i'll never forget the lady on the phone literally said to me you'll probably be safer here
00:14:14.460 meaning saudi arabia than there and i don't know if that was a freudian slip on her part or whatever
00:14:20.940 but uh that sent a bit of a chill down my spine and i'm like oh so i'm glad i and and the reason
00:14:27.500 i bring up that story is because uh i've brought up that story with a couple of people that the
00:14:31.900 company i went to work for a company instead of going to saudi aramco i still left talisman and
00:14:36.700 then i went to work for a company called prime west which is you know one of the best companies
00:14:40.540 i ever worked for it i made some really great lifelong friends after working at uh at prime
00:14:46.300 west and a lot of people who who saw my story on facebook in the last couple of days made some
00:14:55.340 really cool comment you know they didn't know about what had happened what that i'd you know
00:15:00.140 turned down the offer but they they reminded me that it was a you know that it turned out
00:15:04.540 for the better that we became friends so i like that way of thinking right that that one tragedy
00:15:09.260 made me reconsider, but I can't, but we should never, you know, never dwell on the past too
00:15:16.440 long and look on the bright side. So me not going to Saudi Aramco made me take my career in a
00:15:23.800 different direction and meet different people. And some of those people are still friends of
00:15:28.100 mine to this day. So I, you know, I definitely have no regrets about not going over there.
00:15:33.300 I also kind of find it interesting that even I, as a young engineer, was kind of worried about
00:15:38.560 the country and wanted to leave but then chose to stay in alberta and canada so i gotta you know
00:15:46.000 that that's food for thought right that's food for thought and and and maybe i guess it ties into
00:15:51.840 um the independence movement right now and maybe there is a good side or a bad side depending on
00:15:58.720 the outcome and i'll come back to that so again folks if you like don't be shy call the number
00:16:03.440 John's got the number on the screen there, 479-9378, and share your 9-11 story or any
00:16:10.660 other story you want to talk about. I mean, things I got on my list today, I do want to talk a little
00:16:17.480 bit about the trade war. I want to give you a very personal example of the impact of the trade war
00:16:24.480 on a Canadian business. I went to Danielle Smith's town hall meeting. That's one of the great things
00:16:32.300 about Danielle. She goes around, does a lot of town halls. So she had a town hall meeting in 0.69
00:16:36.380 Cochrane on Tuesday. I went there and I want to give you a little update on that. Talk a little
00:16:42.440 bit about the Allison inquiry, which I think is getting absolutely no media attention. And I think
00:16:48.300 that's a shame. And I got a few other stories I want to talk about. So all right. Well, if since
00:16:56.820 you guys where do i go next on this one let's actually let's let's stay on um let's stay on the
00:17:03.540 trade war for a quick minute here um the tariffs went in effect the counter tariffs went into effect
00:17:12.100 a couple of days ago on the 8th so i think it'll take time for them to work their way through people
00:17:17.300 have inventory and stuff like that so we're not going to see the the the the hits immediately
00:17:22.660 but then our counter tariffs went into effect and then Trump fired back immediately and he's
00:17:31.440 escalated now so it's not just tariffs on alcohol and tariffs on milk products he's gone to outright
00:17:40.480 bans so through an executive order or whatever mechanism they have yesterday or two days ago
00:17:46.920 Trump put an outright ban on the importation of Canadian alcohol into the U.S.
00:17:54.120 and the importation of Canadian milk products and cheese.
00:17:58.140 And then he put a ban specifically on Canadian motorcycles.
00:18:04.620 And then he's squeezing Bombardier.
00:18:08.020 And there's rumors that he's going to, one way he can exempt himself from, get around the free trade agreement is he's, there's a rumor that he's going to tell American government agencies that they cannot procure Canadian products.
00:18:27.440 So that's not against, that doesn't prevent products from coming into the US, but I guess the American government's a big buyer, right?
00:18:34.220 So that'd be like saying to the American army, you can't buy skidoos for your winter gear.
00:18:42.020 You can't buy, you know, if you're, if you're whatever, some agency that needs, I don't know, hockey equipment or something like that.
00:18:50.940 You can't buy that.
00:18:52.020 If you're preparing food for the army, you can't buy Canadian products.
00:18:56.060 So the tariffs continue to escalate.
00:18:58.920 and and and the more i think about this like who's losing it's it's not the government it's
00:19:08.740 not carny it's not trump it's the person on the ground it's you and me and and so brings us to
00:19:16.660 the story i want to share just a quick story right so we're in this trade war right now and
00:19:22.300 everybody's saying bye canadian bye canadian bye canadian so i ran around my house trying to find
00:19:27.260 a made-in-Canada product, okay?
00:19:30.420 And I found one.
00:19:32.220 Bear with me.
00:19:33.760 So I'm not promoting this,
00:19:36.640 but this is something called the Gutter Saver Pro, okay?
00:19:41.960 And it's just, it's something I have.
00:19:43.700 I hate cleaning my gutters.
00:19:45.280 And when you're cleaning your gutters
00:19:46.800 and you lean the ladder against the gutters,
00:19:48.500 you're kind of bending the gutters.
00:19:50.340 Well, you put this on top.
00:19:52.540 You put your broom handle there.
00:19:54.300 You jack it up in the air.
00:19:55.600 You hang it over your gutters.
00:19:56.740 and then you lean your ladder on here.
00:19:59.640 But anyways, that's beside the point.
00:20:00.980 It's not the item that counts.
00:20:02.520 It's the fact that we can't zoom the camera,
00:20:05.520 but right here, written on here, trust me,
00:20:07.720 it says proudly made in Canada by L&D Tool and Dye.
00:20:12.080 Okay?
00:20:12.820 So I got a hold of the people who own this company, 1.00
00:20:18.260 lovely lady named Lucy. 1.00
00:20:20.140 I won't give her last name.
00:20:21.080 And I talked to Lucy on the phone yesterday
00:20:23.340 about the impacts of a tariff and I thought I was pretty smart on tariffs and and Lucy gave me a
00:20:31.800 really amazing lesson and maybe I'll bring her on the show in the coming days or coming weeks or
00:20:37.620 something like that but she so they're in Nova Scotia they they have a patent for this thing
00:20:45.120 they had to source somebody to make a mold making a mold is not easy anymore nobody makes molds it's
00:20:50.920 not like you just show up and get somebody to make a mold they got somebody to make the mold
00:20:54.160 and found somebody who still had the technology to inject this thing and so they they they make
00:20:59.600 the this this this object this this thing and um 90 of their market is in the u.s okay and that's
00:21:10.900 just a reality in canada so she's a small business in canada she's got a product and her product
00:21:16.960 sells okay in canada but the market is small and plus people don't clean their gutters in this
00:21:22.960 country for call it uh seven months out of the year eight months nine months out of the year
00:21:28.800 so you know you buy one of these and it's okay but if but in the us there's places that have
00:21:34.880 a year-round need for these things and she sells 90 of her product in the us
00:21:39.680 well the the tariffs have demolished her business because uh i don't want to get into it too too much
00:21:46.640 it's it's but the 50% tariff that she that the US imposed on her means that her supplier let's call
00:21:55.040 it let's say let's say Home Depot USA used to buy a thousand of these from her every month now Home
00:22:00.640 Depot has to pay 50% more for these things Home Depot is not willing to order them in advance
00:22:09.600 and pay 50% and risk being stuck with the stock so now Home Depot will say well maybe I'll do 10
00:22:15.840 or 20 or something like that and then it becomes unprofitable then i asked her if she could find
00:22:20.480 her own distributor in the u.s she's like if i do i lose control can she can you find uh well
00:22:25.760 actually before i get on tariffs so the americans are tariffing her and canada's tariffing her
00:22:30.320 because some of the components that she uses to make this come from the u.s the resin or the
00:22:36.320 coloring or the sticky labels or whatever not everything is sourced in canada so now she's
00:22:41.040 getting so the cost to make her product is going up and then and then the cost of because the cost
00:22:47.040 of her product goes up when the invoice she sends to the us is higher and the us are putting an 0.63
00:22:51.680 invoice a 50 invoice on there she's out of business okay in a nutshell she's like i don't i i was
00:22:59.360 i was upset talking to her and i don't even know how you can like the frustration in her voice
00:23:05.600 was incredible and and this is canada we're already in canada being an entrepreneur and a
00:23:11.440 small business owner is already difficult enough like this is not a country that is friendly to
00:23:16.960 entrepreneurs you know she gave me horror stories i won't go into the horror stories um but but i
00:23:24.320 just i just wanted to make that make people understand that the these things are impacting
00:23:29.760 lives so it's her livelihood that's affected and it's uh and it's the people that she hires and
00:23:35.980 the machinists and the injection molders and so forth so there's a cascading event there but
00:23:40.520 there's also another cascading event which is she sells to the u.s and she explained this brilliantly
00:23:47.720 she's selling to the u.s and then therefore she's bringing in american money to canada right so if
00:23:54.260 She sells one of these and she brings in 10 US dollars to Canada. 0.87
00:23:58.040 That's $10 that Canada did not have before.
00:24:01.560 And then with that $10, she can go to her neighbor who sells chickens or makes picnic tables or sews clothes or washes windows, whatever, and use some of that money. 0.93
00:24:10.700 But now she's out of money. 0.65
00:24:12.480 She's not bringing in the dollars. 1.00
00:24:14.120 She's laying off people. 1.00
00:24:16.340 And it's having a cascading spill on effect to others in her community.
00:24:21.360 And then I said, well, I heard that Carney is offering assistance to businesses, right? That Carney said he's going to take the money he collects as tariffs and use it to offset some of the hurt of these businesses. And she laughed. And as soon as I asked the question and she was laughing, I was almost apologetic going, I'm sorry I even asked that question. What a silly question on my part to ask.
00:24:43.960 how does a small business like hers take advantage of the the the relief offered by the federal
00:24:51.180 government right the relief offered by the quote-unquote relief offered by the federal
00:24:56.580 government that's for bombardiers that's for uh virgin mobile or telus or whatever the big
00:25:02.460 companies and and that have big departments that can apply for this it would cost her so much money
00:25:09.140 just to apply to get this assistance that it's hardly worth it and the assistance is a pittance
00:25:15.060 and then she explained some of the assistance and the assistance would be basically to help her
00:25:20.040 you know build a website so she could attract more business in Canada and she's like I've been
00:25:25.200 doing this for 15 years do you not think I've already done that I'm like I get it get it get
00:25:30.780 it and then on top of that she talked about you know the the so it sounds good to say buy canadian
00:25:38.760 it's impractical but not only is it impractical she almost went as far as saying that most of
00:25:44.880 her canadian neighbors all of us in general were kind of hypocrites and i'm like i agree i understand
00:25:52.040 where you're going to go next because we say we're going to buy canadian but if you can find this
00:25:57.340 item in the store for a fraction of the cost because it was made in china which one are you
00:26:04.420 going to buy you're going to buy chinese don't don't lie to me you're going to buy chinese so
00:26:08.960 anyways i just i wanted to bring up that example just that story quickly as an example that these
00:26:15.900 these tariffs and this war that we're in is um oh i should have
00:26:20.800 sorry about that folks i usually turn off my phone here and i don't know why i forgot to do
00:26:27.320 that today um anyways i i that let me let me just backtrack so the tariffs affect people and folks
00:26:36.680 like park the rhetoric for a while and ignore what carnies and others are doing and and do pay
00:26:45.000 attention to this like don't don't don't fall for all this noise don't change your don't change your
00:26:51.680 behavior because there are unintended consequences this by canadian sounds good but it's not it's not
00:26:58.520 always good it's not always practical and there's a lot of really good reasons to keep supporting
00:27:04.980 people who do business with the americans and supporting our american neighbors and person to
00:27:11.180 person let's let's not let's continue the relationships we have person to person and
00:27:16.660 let's not get wrapped up in what the politicians are doing that's kind of that's kind of my plea
00:27:21.120 on that one so um all right folks come on 479-9378 i got my usual guys that usually call
00:27:30.520 just from uh from grand prairie and uh and uh spencer and others but uh maybe you guys just
00:27:37.540 want to hear me talk i'm happy to keep talking all right where do i go from here um
00:27:42.760 do i talk about zelinski or do i talk about let me talk about okay let me let me
00:27:50.820 Let me talk about, let me talk about the meeting with Danielle Smith on, on Tuesday, because it was a good meeting. It was a good meeting. So it's summer, right? And Danielle Smith goes around and does her town hall meetings across the province. And first of all, kudos for her doing that.
00:28:13.080 okay politicians are elected to be our representatives and a lot of them say that
00:28:22.440 they talk to canadians you hear that all the time right and then she was like i talk to canadians
00:28:26.120 and this is what they've told me but i've never seen him in an event where he's actually talking
00:28:30.200 to people and so when danielle says i talked to albertans she does okay so on tuesday she's in
00:28:36.840 cochran and um small meeting like about 120 uh constituents uh ucp members and it was by invitation
00:28:46.440 only though although it's by invitation only the invitation can leak out right so i get a i get an
00:28:51.960 email as a ucp member in that constituency association so marty come on out for that
00:28:57.400 but these things aren't secret so i could have leaked it out or somebody could have leaked it
00:29:01.880 out and almost anybody could show up at one of these events show up there's about 125 of us
00:29:08.280 and it's danielle smith and um the the mla for airdrie not the mla for cochran i'll come back
00:29:18.200 to that go ahead caller uh as usual where are you calling from and uh what's on your mind
00:29:21.880 hello hello hello go ahead
00:29:29.240 hey this is chris calling from calgary how are you chris what's on your mind
00:29:35.780 hey uh different man bring 9-11 here uh i was back in the old country in a log yard scaling
00:29:44.040 and grading the loading up the logs my brother was living uh down here mississippi at the time
00:29:48.840 and he phoned and that's when I when I was made aware of the planes
00:29:59.160 four years after I came to Canada and related to your poll question there on YouTube yeah I
00:30:10.680 haven't been here since 9-11 but only five years uh four years after uh but i've seen it going
00:30:19.240 where were you at the time of 9-11 what country were you in
00:30:24.200 just around the corner romania oh okay
00:30:30.360 yeah uh but uh yeah that uh our brothers don't do you remember sort of did something did anything
00:30:39.880 specific go through your mind that day did it did you did you have a sense that the world was maybe
00:30:45.960 changing or what what were your thoughts on that day do you remember back yep i do remember i was
00:30:52.600 working for an american company down there and uh we're americans and canadians working for the same
00:31:00.520 company and uh we were uh right away
00:31:08.360 aware and and we had the feeling that uh things were never going to be the same in the world
00:31:14.520 yeah yeah oh well okay well great uh um so are you doing anything specific tomorrow to remember
00:31:21.240 or you're just like most people i mean you'll you'll you'll pay attention to it but you do
00:31:25.400 Do you have a tradition on that day or it's just another day?
00:31:29.760 No, we don't.
00:31:30.580 No, it's not just another day.
00:31:31.980 It is a day.
00:31:34.140 It is a day to remember.
00:31:36.420 But, you know, living up here in Alberta, we have to keep plugging away, you know.
00:31:41.480 The receiver general keeps wanting our money.
00:31:45.280 It's running away.
00:31:46.360 Excellent.
00:31:47.040 Okay.
00:31:47.400 Well, thanks for calling, Chris.
00:31:49.200 Thanks for calling.
00:31:50.080 Cheers.
00:31:50.300 You bet Mark Arnett should be down there.
00:31:54.260 Yeah, I agree. All right. Have a great day.
00:31:58.440 You as well. Thank you.
00:32:00.680 Yeah, I had just just back to 9-11.
00:32:03.760 I had a buddy where at the where I was working at that time, I had a fellow engineer who was a Canadian citizen with a German passport and a an Arab last name because his his father was Arabic and his mother was German.
00:32:24.260 And boy, in the years after 9-11, his life, you know, he told me horror stories.
00:32:32.020 I mean, going through the border after that with, like I said, Canadian dual citizenship, passport, German, Arabic, all those things.
00:32:39.220 Poor guy. Going through customs was a nightmare for him.
00:32:43.060 So back to the town hall, Daniel Smith and the MLA for Airdrie.
00:32:49.620 I'm having a memory blank, but just two people.
00:32:52.440 and the reason the MLA for Airdrie was there
00:32:56.300 because Cochrane right now does not have a UCP MLA
00:33:00.480 the MLA for Cochrane is Peter Guthrie
00:33:04.400 he was elected as a UCP MLA
00:33:07.420 but he got kicked out of caucus and he's now an independent
00:33:10.400 so Danielle did her town hall there
00:33:14.200 and had to bring somebody with her
00:33:15.820 somebody mentioned it in the comments
00:33:18.620 I'm drawing a complete memory blank 0.99
00:33:20.260 It's a blonde lady is the lady who's who's the MLA for Airdrie.
00:33:27.780 Anyways, and Danielle did a very quick chat, a very quick update, like not much.
00:33:33.160 Her opening statements were not much more than about five or six minutes, you know, talked about things that she's done.
00:33:39.360 You know, I'm proud that Alberta is having its sixth or seventh surplus in a row because of oil prices.
00:33:45.600 Talked about some of the progress, some of the changes she's made on on on recent bills like Bill 25, taking politics out of the school, some progress that they've made on infrastructure, the fact that there's so many schools being built and stuff like that.
00:34:01.740 So she gave it. And then she highlighted statistics like most of the jobs created in Canada in the last year are in Alberta.
00:34:10.380 We lead the country in GDP per capita, GDP trade to the U.S., stuff like that.
00:34:16.260 So very, very high level, good stuff. And I agree with all of it.
00:34:20.480 It's all stuff I've commented on many times. And then she opened up the floor to questions.
00:34:26.120 And it was such a small crowd. And I managed to go right to the front and be the first person to ask her a question. She's got her PR team standing there. And I know some of her PR team. And I told, you know, Peter is like sort of reluctantly putting the mic in my face. And I said, I'm going to be nice. I'm going to be nice. And I was nice, right? I opened up my comment by thanking Danielle and telling her, you know, I'm willing to be super critical of anybody, any politicians.
00:34:55.260 I don't care. I've told you guys this. I don't care if you're political stripes. Just because you're conservative, you don't get a break from me. I'm critical of everyone. But at the same time, I'm also willing to give credit when credit is due. So that's what I said to her. I said, credit. You're taking the province in the right direction. And I applaud you for that.
00:35:14.180 and then I joked I said I wish you were moving faster and then I joked one last joke and I said
00:35:22.140 I wish you were more on board with us as an independent as a separatist and then I asked
00:35:29.240 her a real question and my question had to do with something I've talked on here earlier this
00:35:34.180 year about our tax bills that came in last year and how the bills had gone up and specifically
00:35:39.060 the education component of our tax bill, of our municipal tax bill, right? So I get a municipal
00:35:45.360 tax bill, but it's gone up. And when I look at it closely, it's not the city or the county that's
00:35:50.680 increasing costs. It was the province passing on this school levy to the cities and making them
00:36:01.120 take the public relations hit. So I brought that up. She gave me a satisfactory answer. She said
00:36:07.180 that the formula is kind of flawed.
00:36:08.920 They had held it steady for years.
00:36:11.180 Yeah, that's exact.
00:36:12.260 Thanks, John.
00:36:12.980 That's the picture.
00:36:14.620 I'm probably right off the corner somewhere there.
00:36:17.560 Who's the MLA? 1.00
00:36:18.400 I don't know who the other lady is 1.00
00:36:20.880 that she's with her. 1.00
00:36:22.520 And I should
00:36:23.860 because I'm a political commentator,
00:36:25.700 but I'm having a real memory blank right now.
00:36:29.000 And so she gave me a satisfactory answer to that.
00:36:31.480 And then other people had questions.
00:36:33.080 people brought up almost everybody who stood up made a statement and a question
00:36:39.800 and the statements all that was a like that was a pro-independence crowd kind of surprised me with
00:36:47.440 a very pro-independence crowd there was an independence component in every question
00:36:51.880 or in every statement but the questions were good people brought up things like
00:36:58.820 you know, our roads are still dangerous and trucks, you know, moving at 130 kilometers an hour,
00:37:05.760 big trucks, how we need to sort of curtail that and bring that under control. People with inside
00:37:11.720 knowledge of Alberta Health are talking about how there's Angela Pitt. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
00:37:16.420 you. People are bringing up issues about Alberta Health and how it's still pushing DEI policies
00:37:22.440 and how Alberta Health is resisting real change,
00:37:27.160 specifically around surgeries and stuff like that.
00:37:32.360 Listen, I'll come back to that,
00:37:34.080 but I want to give priority to the callers.
00:37:35.740 So again, caller, go ahead.
00:37:37.300 Where are you calling from?
00:37:38.120 What's your name and what's on your mind, please?
00:37:41.800 Hey, Marty, it's James from Devon calling again.
00:37:44.140 I got a better signal this week?
00:37:46.360 Say that again, a little bit of what?
00:37:50.440 Do I have a better signal this week?
00:37:52.180 Yes, yes. Way better signal. Yes. So what's on your mind, James?
00:37:56.180 Okay. Well, of course, 9-11. Never forget. Never, ever, ever.
00:38:05.060 Just to tell my story briefly, why not? I was a kid. I was like eight years old.
00:38:10.660 And my dad listened to talk radio basically religiously.
00:38:15.280 And he had his headphones in. He's like, something's wrong. Something's really, really wrong.
00:38:19.700 unless there's no signal, something's happened.
00:38:21.920 And he turned the TV on just in time
00:38:23.920 to see the second playmate.
00:38:27.980 Wow.
00:38:29.220 Yeah.
00:38:30.440 And so you remember that.
00:38:31.600 So you were young, but you remember it.
00:38:35.420 Yeah.
00:38:36.260 Yeah, I would have been about eight.
00:38:38.200 And then...
00:38:39.960 But the one I want to, go ahead.
00:38:42.680 No, no, yeah, I was going to say too young,
00:38:45.620 or maybe not too young.
00:38:47.580 No, no, too young to have friends who were in the Canadian forces or anything like that.
00:38:53.840 Not really.
00:38:54.780 I mean, I know some guys who grew up and went in, but like not at the time.
00:39:00.680 Okay.
00:39:01.080 And so what's your thoughts on Carney?
00:39:02.440 Should he have picked a different day to do his retreat in Kananaskis or in Banff?
00:39:11.000 Of course he should have, but I honestly think he's doing this deliberately. 0.99
00:39:14.800 I think he's doing every little thing he can to stick his finger in Donald Trump's butt. 0.99
00:39:19.760 Every little thing he can do to annoy the Americans. 0.99
00:39:23.140 Every tiny little dig he can take at them.
00:39:26.100 And I'm sick of it.
00:39:27.560 Yeah.
00:39:28.000 Yeah.
00:39:28.700 Yeah.
00:39:29.080 That's, yeah.
00:39:30.500 Including what he did today, right?
00:39:32.100 I mean, what a slap. 0.96
00:39:33.380 Again, today, he invited Zelensky.
00:39:38.480 Zelensky's in Calgary, and Zelensky's going to speak at his conference tomorrow.
00:39:41.940 Like, that's like that's that that's a slap in the face to the Americans again.
00:39:47.540 Wow. Yeah. OK.
00:39:50.300 No, the timing isn't coincidental.
00:39:53.800 If I could switch topics, if you got the moment.
00:39:56.820 Sure. Quickly.
00:39:59.240 I wanted to talk about our federal MPs who have created this group to remain, keep Alberta in Canada.
00:40:11.240 it's on my list of topics my comments on it yeah go ahead give me your comments on it real quick
00:40:17.460 my comment brief what better indication do you need that canada's elections objectively do not
00:40:25.800 work than a federal party desperately trying to cling on to a specific province because they know
00:40:32.580 for an abject fact they can't win without us wow you took the words right out of my mouth that's
00:40:37.920 almost what's written on my sheet of paper it was it was last on my list i didn't even know if i was
00:40:42.740 going to get to it so thanks for bringing it up james have a great day bud thank you too have a
00:40:48.940 good one cheers um i'm looking at the clock again this show some days goes by so fast so i just i
00:40:56.020 gotta all right sorry if i rush it so uh danielle opened up the floor tons of people brought up
00:41:01.660 questions issues great things she wrote them all down but the topic of independence kept coming up
00:41:08.700 coming up coming up coming up and this is where for me got really interesting because
00:41:13.180 um as she was responding to concerns other people in the crowd were speaking up and then all of a
00:41:19.420 sudden it started to look almost like a little bit of a dialogue back and forth which is so rare and
00:41:24.460 it was and it was refreshing and it was a real insight into danielle and and and now i'm starting
00:41:30.460 to really um so she brought up i'm gonna paraphrase and i'm gonna simplify it but she basically
00:41:35.980 in her mind she is uh actually she she she pleaded with everyone please vote okay please vote in the
00:41:43.500 upcoming referendum and she's basically saying vote yes to the first nine questions and vote no
00:41:50.780 to the last one and in her mind if we vote yes to the first nine that gives us the leverage
00:41:57.740 to negotiate with Ottawa, and we don't need the last one.
00:42:02.580 And I'm like, wow, no, it's the other way around.
00:42:04.660 I mean, voting that, hey, we want to open the discussions
00:42:08.380 on immigration, that's not leverage, okay?
00:42:10.720 That's not leverage.
00:42:12.100 Voting that we want to leave, that's leverage.
00:42:15.300 That's a real message to Ottawa.
00:42:18.540 So I thought clearly, I thought that that was a paradox
00:42:21.360 or she was misreading that.
00:42:22.760 Like her telling us to vote for the first nine yes
00:42:26.160 and no on independence i thought no you got it around backwards if you want leverage don't worry
00:42:32.080 about the other things vote for independence and then and then the the discussion came around she
00:42:38.800 she talked about how in her mind uh she's voting to stay she repeated that she believes in a
00:42:46.480 stronger alberta a sovereign alberta within a united canada she repeated that and i've often
00:42:51.440 thought that she was naive on that but she gave she really talked about her reasons i mean she said
00:42:57.280 that in her opinion there's only two options canada within or alberta within canada or alberta within
00:43:04.320 the united states like she's just said that the sphere of influence of the two countries are too
00:43:09.120 big and alberta is like orbiting one or the other and and she said that she thinks that alberta
00:43:15.200 within canada is better than alberta within the united states and and and then she gave the
00:43:21.920 example that confederation has worked in the last 159 years confederation has worked when
00:43:30.560 conservatives were in power i had the opportunity to say my god conservatives have been in power
00:43:36.560 for what like 30 of the last hundred uh of of the of the time so we have a system that only works
00:43:44.320 30 percent of the time when one group is in power and then it doesn't work the other 70 percent of
00:43:49.100 the time i'm like and she specifically mentioned you know mulrooney and harper saying the
00:43:53.860 confederation worked for them i'm like wow so like that's a pretty flawed system if it only works 30
00:44:00.080 percent of the time and on top of that i don't think conservatives will ever run rule in ottawa
00:44:04.960 ever again so on that theory she's off and then and then she repeated that she doesn't think that
00:44:12.380 an independent Alberta has its chance on its own and again almost the booze and the and the pushback
00:44:19.480 from the crowd like I was trying to watch her body language and and she got an earful right like
00:44:24.660 people said what about Norway what about the fact you know she's like well you we're landlocked and 0.92
00:44:29.080 everybody like three people yelled so are 50 percent of the countries in Europe and she's you
00:44:34.740 know yeah but they have different cultures and they corroborate with each other I'm like okay
00:44:39.520 So her arguments fall on their face all the time.
00:44:45.040 And but I don't I mean, that's that's interesting in and of itself.
00:44:48.580 But for me, it was an eye opener. It was an eye opener.
00:44:50.840 She really believes that that that Confederation can be fixed.
00:44:56.420 She brought up the example of Carney, you know, saying like that, that the last the 10 years under Trudor were terrible and that there's been some noticeable improvements under Carney.
00:45:07.400 and even when she mentions that and when she says there's been an improvement under Carney
00:45:11.220 she gets like a boo like the whole crowd goes boo like we don't see it that way Danielle we
00:45:17.060 don't see it that way premier like an MOU and a promise to build a pipeline that's nothing that
00:45:22.200 that that you know and even today Carney threw another carrot our way right like he he modified
00:45:27.700 Bill C-69 is a really annoying piece of legislation right that's the one we call the
00:45:32.820 No New Pipelines Act that came in under Trudeau.
00:45:36.340 And today or yesterday, Carney said that he's limiting the scope of Bill C-69
00:45:41.920 and Bill C-69 won't apply to heavy oil projects
00:45:47.180 and won't apply to power plants in Alberta in the heavy oil sector.
00:45:51.800 Okay, so a very narrow reduction of the scope of Bill C-69.
00:45:57.120 But, I mean, Carney has still got the tanker ban.
00:46:02.240 He still has emission caps.
00:46:04.920 He still has carbon taxes.
00:46:08.020 He's still pushing net zero.
00:46:09.880 And he still has this ace up his sleeve.
00:46:11.680 He doesn't have to kill a pipeline or anything else.
00:46:14.400 Kearney, he can be the good guy and say, look, I tried my best to have it happen.
00:46:18.080 But he can let the First Nations take it on the chin because he's still granting them basic veto powers over all these projects.
00:46:26.180 So to me, that was a fascinating town hall.
00:46:30.180 and that's what I, you know, I've been, I've been trying all along to decide whether Danielle was
00:46:35.500 really just, you know, a lot of people said, give her the benefit of the doubt. She's just
00:46:40.320 checking off every box so that nobody can ever say, uh, you didn't try this and you didn't try
00:46:46.420 that. Right. You didn't try it. Like I, you know, I even had the chance to say to her, like, we've
00:46:50.900 been trying what you're proposing for 60 years and it doesn't work. So I, I think I, I got some
00:46:57.560 clarity i i'm i'm she is uh she is truly a federalist who thinks that she's the person
00:47:07.460 who's going to keep alberta within confederation and get us a better deal and i think that's 0.98
00:47:12.200 absolutely naive but she's going to go down that path fighting unless something dramatic unless
00:47:19.260 carney does something to really betray her uh go ahead call her name where you're calling from
00:47:24.600 what's on your mind hey marty this is timothy calling from edmonton here how are you um yeah
00:47:31.160 i just thought that was very fascinating uh the chat that you had there with daniel smith and
00:47:36.200 your response to the crowd at that event um to me i just i'm amazed at what she's saying though
00:47:43.800 because do you think what like how can she lie so overtly like what it's different because she
00:47:50.840 knows the facts, he knows the history of Canada and Alberta within Canada. Like, for example,
00:47:57.480 if you're saying that the first question would provide enough leverage in dealing with Ottawa,
00:48:02.520 I mean, surely she remembers the equalization referendum, what was it, four years, five years
00:48:07.480 ago, which ended in absolutely nothing. The federal government has completely ignored it.
00:48:13.720 All the premiers completely ignored it. I'm having a hard time hearing you. John,
00:48:19.240 can you give me a thumbs up like can can the audience hear more okay audience can is this tom
00:48:25.160 is this tom who was sitting beside behind me uh this is timothy calling here oh i just took off
00:48:32.360 took off my earbuds there you go okay um yeah so
00:48:38.840 what am i so are you reading it the same way i'm reading it
00:48:42.920 well i didn't quite catch the last uh minute there i was on hold uh when you were chatting
00:48:49.880 there so yeah i just am struggling to understand what her reasoning is how she can claim ignorance
00:48:57.720 of of history of canada and uprooted within canada and how we've been repeatedly ignored
00:49:02.920 on the federal front like yeah most recently with the equalization referendum we sent a signal that
00:49:08.760 that we wanted equalization abolished, actually, not even just reformed, but abolished,
00:49:14.480 and was completely ignored at every level of government, both by the premiers and by the
00:49:18.780 federal government. Now she's claiming that some additional referendum questions similar to that
00:49:23.540 one would actually make a difference. Like, why would she think that these questions would result
00:49:28.800 in anything different than the last one? Yeah, well, and okay, cool, actually. And
00:49:33.600 And we're kind of on the same page, which now you're bringing up another doubt in my mind because I'm saying she's genuinely naive.
00:49:42.900 But now now you got me thinking, is she pretending to be naive? 0.69
00:49:45.980 Because you can tell, right, like we challenge her on some questions and she'd sort of play dumb, which is not like her, right? 0.93
00:49:53.340 She's not dumb. So she was purposely biting her tongue and playing dumb. 0.99
00:49:57.900 Is that a possibility? I don't know. 0.99
00:50:01.220 i think that's a strong possibility yeah that she's playing dumb in order to try to 0.98
00:50:05.700 gin up you know federalist support um kind of maintain her connections federally you know 0.99
00:50:11.300 potentially for some sort of federal role in the future once she's finished as premier of alberta 0.80
00:50:17.060 there i think there's a strong chance of that because if you listen to the way that she talked
00:50:20.820 when she when she was a talk show host you know even at western standard before becoming premier
00:50:26.980 she knew all this history she knew how futile albert's attempts have been to reform things
00:50:32.980 within canada and yet now she's pretending as if she doesn't know that or pretending as if
00:50:37.940 yeah like you said getting a conservative government in ottawa would make all the difference
00:50:42.340 when clearly we know that's not the case okay so now all right well thanks for doing that so
00:50:47.220 i i thought i had clarity this morning now i'm back to being confused
00:50:50.820 i didn't mean to make it difficult for you but but yeah like on the federal sense like she claims
00:50:58.580 that mulrooney or stephen harper are cases in point of canada working well does she realize
00:51:04.340 that that was only what two majority governments for example in my lifetime exactly majority
00:51:09.940 conservative governments and during those two majority federal uh conservative governments
00:51:14.660 what was the lasting impact
00:51:17.180 that benefited Alberta
00:51:18.520 like Stephen Harper
00:51:19.800 almost everything that he did
00:51:21.040 was overturned
00:51:22.420 within Trudeau's
00:51:23.400 first term in office
00:51:24.460 yeah yeah yeah
00:51:25.260 no she knows that
00:51:27.220 you're absolutely right
00:51:28.340 and weirdly
00:51:29.220 I left my phone at home
00:51:31.320 that day
00:51:31.780 and I couldn't record it
00:51:33.160 I should have recorded it
00:51:34.340 alright
00:51:34.780 that would have been awesome
00:51:36.380 thanks for calling
00:51:37.600 I'm running out of time
00:51:38.560 I want to cover
00:51:39.320 a couple more stories
00:51:40.160 so have a great day bud
00:51:41.420 all good
00:51:42.500 yeah have a good day
00:51:43.800 bye
00:51:44.660 okay well i have about two stories that i wanted to cover one caller uh chris or james touched on
00:51:51.400 one right the conservative mps uh last week the alberta conservative mp so i don't know how many
00:51:58.360 there are i think there's 21 conservative mps in alberta maybe more maybe 34 something like that
00:52:03.240 so the alberta conservative mps federally formed their own little group last week and uh call
00:52:11.200 conservatives for canada calling for a stronger alberta within the united canada and their pitch
00:52:18.300 is uh alberta's problem is ottawa policy not canada itself and again so here's a group saying
00:52:25.200 um here's a group basically saying canada will work if the conservatives are elected okay and
00:52:33.080 And that's like, excuse me, but I don't want a solution that depends on who's elected.
00:52:40.040 I want a solution that works regardless.
00:52:44.020 And so I do think that, to me, Canada's broken in a very fundamental way,
00:52:48.480 which is even if you balance the seats, it doesn't matter.
00:52:51.980 The country is just too big.
00:52:54.420 And Ottawa is interfering too much in jurisdiction outside of its affairs.
00:53:00.040 Like, look at what happened in Edmonton this week or last week, right?
00:53:04.440 Ottawa is sending us a check for housing.
00:53:08.420 They sent the first two or three installments,
00:53:10.520 and then they sent a letter to Jeremy Farkas and saying,
00:53:14.460 hey, if you don't adjust the zoning, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
00:53:17.320 and reverse what just happened, you're not getting the check.
00:53:21.460 So money from Ottawa comes with strings attached
00:53:23.780 in an area that's not part of their jurisdiction, out of their mandate.
00:53:27.580 Anyways, it goes on and on.
00:53:28.520 So I and so this this this group of conservatives banding together, a first of all, what they're proposing is bizarre.
00:53:36.080 But secondly, like the caller said, it does show they're supposed to represent us.
00:53:41.780 And I don't have my conservative MP didn't come and ask me, like, how do you feel about independence and this and this and that?
00:53:47.960 He just jumped on this bandwagon and his and he published a letter alongside everybody else saying, I'm a federal conservative MP and I'm in favor of Alberta staying.
00:53:58.520 uh in confederation so when i see that i see that as self-serving i see that as just representing
00:54:05.640 the party lines and i see that as really self-serving because conservatives federally
00:54:11.400 know this if alberta leaves there will never be a federal government in ottawa ever again so
00:54:15.800 anyways i'll maybe i'll maybe we'll have more to chat on that unfortunately i'm running out of
00:54:19.800 time i really wanted to talk about the allison inquiry i'll talk about that next week but i'll
00:54:23.960 just you guys know what's going on right oh the clock's running five minutes fast sorry john okay
00:54:29.080 all right so i can slow down i don't need to rush um okay let me slow down so let's talk about the
00:54:35.900 allison inquiry which is an amazing thing happening in ottawa so allison inquiry uh allison is dean
00:54:42.940 allison is an mp and um he called an inquiry now it's not formal uh i think it's being called an
00:54:51.920 inquiry but you know it's not really technically an inquiry what dean has done which is great is
00:54:57.860 he's given people who were negatively affected by covid and the mandates and specifically the
00:55:05.100 vaccine he's giving them an opportunity to come to something like a committee uh you know a house
00:55:11.060 of commons committee and they can tell their story and their story is on record right that's one of
00:55:16.140 the wonderful things i mean uh when you go to court and you tell your story when you go to a committee
00:55:21.320 in Parliament or in the House of Commons
00:55:24.080 or a commission and things like that,
00:55:26.480 your words are recorded.
00:55:29.080 So even though the testimony and things like that,
00:55:32.380 it's structured as a testimony,
00:55:35.040 it's structured as a committee
00:55:36.160 with somebody asking questions
00:55:38.220 and witnesses being invited to speak,
00:55:42.020 I don't think it has teeth.
00:55:43.260 I might be wrong.
00:55:44.660 If it has teeth,
00:55:45.900 it might not have teeth in the legal sense,
00:55:47.580 but it'll certainly have teeth in the social sense
00:55:51.740 and in the community sense.
00:55:55.400 But more importantly, people are invited to talk
00:55:57.880 and they can share their stories.
00:55:59.360 And I knew some of these stories.
00:56:00.680 I mean, I've been following Kerry Sakamoto and others,
00:56:03.720 and I thought I knew their stories.
00:56:07.380 But when you listen here, and I was intimate with COVID.
00:56:11.800 I mean, I talked that length about COVID during 2020, 21, 22.
00:56:17.580 and uh and i'm one of those people who thinks that it was that covid was a gross injustice
00:56:24.780 in our lives and that that some of the people who perpetrated those injustices who imposed
00:56:32.640 these draconian mandates who trampled our rights i think some of these people need to be held
00:56:37.420 accountable for what they did someday and i don't think they will you know um that's a story in and
00:56:44.200 itself but but i'm glad the the inquiry is going on i mean we had a similar uh we had a report here
00:56:51.080 in alberta we've also had the nci uh inquiry um or the national i think nci is national citizens
00:56:58.400 initiative whatever we've had we've had inquiries like this this one is federal and the the the
00:57:04.700 testimonies are now on the record which is great but there is still a shameful side of this story
00:57:11.500 which is, thank you for the MP, for Dean Allison for doing this.
00:57:17.100 I guess maybe two or three MPs from the Conservative side have showed up.
00:57:22.040 As far as I can tell, no Liberal, no NDP, no Bloc Québécois MP
00:57:27.340 has come and sat and just hear the testimonies.
00:57:30.960 Pierre Poilievre hasn't sat down.
00:57:32.860 Mark Carney hasn't sat down.
00:57:34.460 I don't think some of these people,
00:57:35.500 I don't think anybody who was in power or in power,
00:57:39.720 I don't think anybody who was a sitting MP during COVID would have the courage to come and sit down and watch this
00:57:49.940 because it would be kind of an admission or they'd have to hear their victims, okay?
00:57:54.980 That's kind of what I'm thinking. 0.89
00:57:56.360 They'd have to hear their victims and they're too cowardly to do that.
00:58:00.860 So that's the first shameful thing is that there aren't more MPs that are listening.
00:58:05.080 CPAC's not even covering it, right?
00:58:06.800 Like CPAC would normally have a camera for any, any, any committee in the House of Commons, it would be recorded and it would be there.
00:58:15.880 So this will be recorded in writing, but it's not being recorded by video by the official organizations.
00:58:21.560 But there is thankfully dozens of independent media people, people like Jasmine Lane and Jason Levine and Unscrew the News, others.
00:58:36.080 lots of people there i forget some forgive me if i do but thank you for doing a great job of
00:58:40.480 doing that and shame on the mainstream media cbc is is 300 yards away across the street and there
00:58:48.240 are no cbc reporters there no ctv reporters it's not on any news whatsoever like and and this is
00:58:57.040 literally 300 victims 300 people 200 300 people who have terrible stories of of injuries from
00:59:04.160 from COVID and so forth.
00:59:07.200 And that's newsworthy,
00:59:08.700 but it's being totally brushed under the carpet.
00:59:12.120 Nobody wants to talk about it.
00:59:13.400 So if you can go find some of these independent groups
00:59:16.720 and go listen to the testimonies
00:59:18.660 and try not to get all choked up
00:59:21.220 when you hear some of the testimonies
00:59:22.620 because some of the stories
00:59:23.420 are absolutely, absolutely devastating.
00:59:27.000 Okay, now I think I'm kind of really running out of time.
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01:01:25.820 calling in thanks for watching uh let's remember the victims tomorrow and the heroic uh first
01:01:35.420 responders and uh hope to see you here next week same time uh next thursday thanks for watching
01:01:42.860 folks.