Western Standard - MARTY UP NORTH： Alberta’s referendum enters the final stretch

00:00:00.000 all right folks welcome back um hey special show today so actually i looked at the calendar

00:00:29.680 I kind of thought maybe it was going to be my one-year anniversary, but that's still coming down the road.

00:00:35.380 It's not quite yet.

00:00:36.760 I think it's been a year since I first talked to Derek, who brought me on the show.

00:00:42.480 And this is a talk show, but I've also often talked about the fact that I want to bring in guests.

00:00:49.180 And I wanted to get comfortable before I brought in guests.

00:00:51.980 And then today we got a special treat.

00:00:53.380 So I got a text yesterday from a friend who also happens to be a podcaster.

00:01:00.380 She texted me telling me she's in town for the conference that's going on right now.

00:01:03.860 We'll talk about the conference.

00:01:05.720 And we're trying to juggle schedules just to hook up and have a chat.

00:01:09.800 And I said, you know what?

00:01:11.080 Come on the show.

00:01:11.940 And let's, so this is my first guest on the show.

00:01:15.860 So my first guest is Carla Treadway, otherwise known as the Sovereign CEO online.

00:01:21.780 Thanks for coming, Carla. How are you?

00:01:23.940 I'm great. Thanks for having me, Marty.

00:01:25.540 I'm glad you get to test out this scenario here with me.

00:01:28.640 Yeah, well, I got a bit of goosebumps.

00:01:31.580 I mean, you're an old pro at this.

00:01:33.120 I'm not quite an old pro at podcasting.

00:01:37.360 I'm vocal online, but podcasting and interviewing guests is not my specialty.

00:01:43.000 You do a lot of guests.

00:01:44.600 I do a ton of guests. It's nice.

00:01:46.140 I just have to bring the questions and then I get to bring in all the experts

00:01:49.280 because I got no problem talking, but I'm not an expert in finance and geopolitics and science.

00:01:55.820 So it's a great way to meet a whole lot of people that are a lot smarter than me.

00:02:01.120 Yeah. So do you remember how we met?

00:02:04.200 I do. Want me to?

00:02:06.240 Yeah, it was in a pub.

00:02:07.620 It wasn't in a pub. So we met Tucker Carlson's event, right?

00:02:11.840 So big flashback. So Tucker Carlson was here in Calgary at the Tele Center.

00:02:18.520 You were a special guest to his, weren't you?

00:02:21.140 Yes. I got a DM from supposedly Tucker Carlson's team, and I almost deleted it.

00:02:28.440 I was like, yeah, right.

00:02:30.020 And then I kind of snooped at who the person was, and I said, oh my God, this is legitimate.

00:02:36.320 And he had just seen like a...

00:02:38.820 You had a viral post. You had a style in those days.

00:02:41.980 It was like a satire slapstick comedy reel, kind of just making fun of the state of Canada.

00:02:49.300 So his team flew me out to the event to make a piece of content with Tucker, and I got to go VIP to the event there.

00:02:56.500 Lots of big names at that event, too.

00:02:58.400 So you were VIP backstage.

00:03:00.400 Who was there?

00:03:01.200 Conrad Black, Jordan Peterson.

00:03:03.600 Did you meet Jordan Peterson that day?

00:03:05.400 Or he was with Tucker in Edmonton, I think.

00:03:08.740 Or was he with Tucker?

00:03:09.680 Oh, I can't even remember.

00:03:11.360 No, he was there.

00:03:12.600 I didn't get a chance to meet him.

00:03:13.920 There was a big lineup.

00:03:14.960 I didn't want to bombard him.

00:03:16.540 So then I was there at the event just as an observer, a friend of ours.

00:03:22.900 Clyde had flown in.

00:03:24.260 That was the first time I met Clyde in person.

00:03:26.520 Went to the event.

00:03:27.360 Met so many people in person that day.

00:03:29.200 It's like I remember it like it was yesterday.

00:03:31.080 Met Eva Chippyuck in person for the first time that day.

00:03:33.960 And then on the spur of the moment, we decided to, me and Clyde decided to invite a bunch of people over to the Jameson, a pub down, or not the, one of the pubs on, on, on Stevens Avenue, you muscled your way in, you came in with us.

00:03:49.180 And then I sat down, we sat down and being the gentleman that I am, I'm like, ladies ordered first.

00:03:54.900 And you ordered something that just, I ordered a Guinness and you were like, did we just become best friends? 0.89

00:04:00.520 Yeah. And did you just order a Guinness because we were in an Irish pub or that's one of your go to beers?

00:04:07.220 No, I actually really love Guinness, especially when it's chilly out.

00:04:11.400 And then I think my next drink was like a Moscow Mule. And you're like, come on, come on.

00:04:16.020 Yeah, because the Moscow Mule for me, I like the Moscow Mule, but I drink, I call it a variation when I'm out hiking.

00:04:23.940 i can't bring a lot of uh you know i bring a little bottle of whiskey when i'm out hiking

00:04:28.840 and then i mix it with um lemon flavored crystal light so i mix crystal light and then at the end

00:04:36.840 of the day after hiking right i have my crystal light and my little whiskey and over the years

00:04:40.980 i started calling it somebody said well that's almost a moscow mule because i come from up north

00:04:45.680 a place called fox creek i started calling it the fox creek mule and uh well you'll never believe

00:04:50.820 this when i am also in the bush usually like snowmobile trips i always bring a thermos but

00:04:56.500 my drink's a little different it's whiskey hot water lemon and honey and that's like my go-to

00:05:02.900 outside beverage geez kindred spirits so so before we dive into why you're here and what we're gonna

00:05:08.660 and by the way folks it's nothing changes today um i have a guest but by all means you know the

00:05:14.900 number john's got the number on the bottom there give us a buzz as usual let us know your name

00:05:20.020 where are you calling from what's on your mind and you can ask us anything it doesn't necessarily

00:05:24.100 have to do with what we're talking about i mean it's it's your show um so before we talk quickly

00:05:29.940 about why you're here today tell us a bit about your background where where do you live you live

00:05:35.620 somewhere pretty cool i live in canora northwestern ontario and i don't even really feel like i i live

00:05:42.180 in the town we live on a island on a giant lake called lake of the woods um so we boat back and

00:05:48.900 forth most of the year and then when that freezes over off-grid technically we're not we have been

00:05:54.900 in the in the past we had um i think our place was like 600 square feet like my definition of

00:06:00.580 off-grid would be um solar panels no power not connected to power yeah so you have power now or

00:06:06.740 yeah once upon a time we were off the grid and then we went we have two kids now so when we had

00:06:11.860 two kids that place started getting a lot smaller so we built a big place and then the big place

00:06:16.980 and off-grid doesn't really work so uh now we're fully connected but if the world shut down that

00:06:23.940 little cabin still exists you can get easily power and you go back to being self-sufficient

00:06:28.180 kind of thing that's awesome plus the the new place has a hot tub i kind of like that so i'm

00:06:32.660 okay with being and then and then that little are you part of a small little community do you have

00:06:36.900 neighbors we have neighbors there's i think eight other cabins on the island okay um and it's a

00:06:42.420 really cool lake if people don't know about it there's 14,582 islands and it's

00:06:49.320 got approximately just like 14 I nailed that nail that number okay it's got more

00:06:55.320 shoreline than any lake in North America so it's kind of like living in on the

00:06:59.400 ocean it goes all the way down into Minnesota and yeah I feel totally

00:07:04.680 disconnected from the woods right later the not neck of the woods well neck of

00:07:08.520 words no pun intended but there's a jog in the border of Canada are you in that

00:07:13.500 neighborhood you know like their 49th parallel goes straight then it jogs up

00:07:18.780 comes back down you're somewhere around there yeah you're almost on the Manitoba

00:07:22.080 border yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I think I've gone through there once that border

00:07:28.440 crossing but and and then so now you left a little bit of controversy or not

00:07:36.120 controversy what you're doing something crazy yes back there back home so I've

00:07:40.860 been podcasting pretty steadily for about six years and I I really naively

00:07:46.800 thought it would be really good for my mental health to just stop focusing on

00:07:51.300 all the bigger problems and actually get involved in my local community just

00:07:55.380 focus on some small solutions so I'm running for city councillor and I knew

00:08:01.200 there would be some kickback because I have very like right-leaning podcast and

00:08:05.700 I've done a lot of satire.

00:08:07.620 We touch on controversial issues, but I didn't expect anything like what I'm getting back home.

00:08:14.040 Today, there is a protest against me.

00:08:16.600 Hang on one second.

00:08:17.520 So when's the municipal elections in Ontario?

00:08:21.840 It's started on the 13th, so it's currently active.

00:08:25.940 Okay, so it's active.

00:08:26.680 So it's not like you're announcing that you're going to be a candidate.

00:08:30.680 You've been nominated or whatever process is in Ontario.

00:08:34.140 so you are officially a candidate officially candidate for counselor which could lead to

00:08:39.180 mayor or does or does mayor get singled out early on like is is yeah there mayors its own separate

00:08:44.300 thing own separate so it's not the counselors choose their mayor afterwards you guys have

00:08:48.300 mayor and counselors okay yeah exactly and then okay so you're diving in history of politics in

00:08:54.620 your family none and no one was running and just kind of last minute i i also gathered two friends

00:09:02.780 um who are kind of like-minded entrepreneurial smart guys and i was and i was like you should

00:09:08.540 run with me so we kind of ran on um we ran as a group basically with the same vision our community

00:09:15.660 has been really hit hard by lots of different factors uh like factors that aren't that are

00:09:20.940 happening all around canada uh are like our uh lots of our industries have shut down we have a

00:09:26.060 lot of homelessness a lot of addiction and the problems seem to be getting worse and not better

00:09:32.780 So we kind of ran on the same platform, downtown safety, protecting the downtown core.

00:09:38.700 I mean, I know where you stand, I think, on the political spectrum, but do you present yourself as sort of right-leaning conservative in that context?

00:09:48.660 Are you allowed to present or are municipal politicians in Ontario all expected to be neutral?

00:09:56.480 I think you're expected to be neutral.

00:09:58.780 Of course, my podcast talks about all kinds of things.

00:10:02.260 So I haven't brought in anything conservative-specific into the campaign.

00:10:07.860 I said very little, in fact, before the kickback came.

00:10:11.760 I basically said our downtown needs to be safer, which is true.

00:10:14.940 The kickback not being money.

00:10:15.980 The kickback, the pushback.

00:10:17.420 The pushback. 0.53

00:10:17.780 Let's call it the pushback, not the kickback.

00:10:20.340 Yeah, I said pretty much nothing.

00:10:22.280 We need things to be safer. 0.92

00:10:23.980 We need to make it easier for businesses to set up.

00:10:26.860 We should look at, oh, you guys will like this.

00:10:30.700 For the sin of mentioning Alberta, because I've been meeting with some of Alberta's recovery team and just learning about what's working in other small communities.

00:10:40.380 And I'm really impressed with what Alberta has done.

00:10:42.900 For the sin of mentioning Alberta, like I became Trump, who's going to put ice on the streets.

00:10:49.920 And it's honestly, it's been hysteria.

00:10:53.900 And who's protesting you?

00:10:58.140 Do you know, do you get a sense?

00:10:59.220 Are they local or is it somebody that's coming in from somewhere else?

00:11:03.020 It's complicated, but apparently it started.

00:11:07.180 Because protesting has become a professional business now.

00:11:09.140 Totally.

00:11:10.040 Like I've been involved in oil and gas projects where I knew that the protesters were not local.

00:11:15.560 So, listen, I love when we get calls.

00:11:19.240 So we got a call.

00:11:20.240 So let's practice this because we haven't practiced this with a guest.

00:11:23.560 So if the calls for Carl are for me, let us know what's on your mind.

00:11:27.980 So go ahead, caller. Where are you calling from?

00:11:31.340 It's Chris from Calgary.

00:11:33.560 Hi, Chris. How are you? What's on your mind?

00:11:36.560 Good, good. So we have Mark Carney in town today,

00:11:40.340 and he's doing an event for the Forever Canadian.

00:11:43.560 And I noticed one thing. When Mark turns up,

00:11:47.620 decisions don't tend to go away.

00:11:51.740 Hang on one second, Chris.

00:11:53.880 John's going to turn up the volume just a little bit.

00:11:55.940 We're having a hard time hearing you.

00:11:57.100 Repeat your question.

00:11:57.980 Mark Carney's in town today, and what?

00:12:01.080 He's doing a forever Canadian rally at the BMO Centre.

00:12:06.360 And I just noticed a little trend here.

00:12:08.400 Like when Mark Carney shows up, things don't always go the way that he wanted.

00:12:12.320 Like when he showed up for Game 7 at the Sonoran,

00:12:15.140 they lost his family job when he showed up for Toronto Blue Cays.

00:12:18.720 They lost to the World Series, Olympic hockey teams, men's and women's.

00:12:23.460 It goes a lot.

00:12:24.200 So I guess my question to you is what effect do you think Kearney's visit is going to have on the referendum?

00:12:30.660 Do you think the Kearney curse will be on the fact?

00:12:33.440 Yeah, so that's what he's referring to, right?

00:12:35.320 I mean, the Kearney curse affected, did it affect the Blue Jays?

00:12:38.620 It affected Canada's soccer team?

00:12:42.280 Yeah.

00:12:44.680 Actually, why don't you take it first?

00:12:46.300 Because I got a strong opinion on how Kearney affects independence.

00:12:51.020 But I'm curious about your overall opinion on independence.

00:12:55.060 But let's talk about that as an outsider.

00:12:57.920 So what do you think Carney is doing for us right now?

00:13:01.800 Or could do for us?

00:13:02.300 Like for the independence movement, you mean?

00:13:04.280 Is he good or bad?

00:13:05.700 What do you guys see out in Ontario?

00:13:08.900 Carney definitely is a federalist.

00:13:11.440 He's beyond a federalist.

00:13:12.620 He's a globalist.

00:13:13.700 So he's definitely not on board with taking away the cash purse from Canada.

00:13:19.200 Yeah.

00:13:19.400 like you know my opinion on Carney is pretty straightforward I mean I think he

00:13:25.760 told us who he is in a book he wrote a book that's like 600 pages right and

00:13:29.720 I've always said when somebody tells you what they're gonna do or who they are

00:13:32.720 believe them so I really don't and and Carney spent a is part of the liberal

00:13:39.080 establishment he he advised Trudeau and he spent a long time he's responsible

00:13:43.880 for some of the bad policies that we have and I think he's right here right

00:13:47.900 now trying to appease Albertans. It's not a coincidence that he's here. And I mean, I think

00:13:55.820 he could have influenced the, I said it all along, he probably had more influence on independence

00:14:02.220 than anybody else. He could have done something really smart, like change the equalization

00:14:08.080 formula. And I think if he had changed the equalization formula quickly, he could have

00:14:12.300 taken all the wind out of the sails and the independence party movement would have been

00:14:16.460 dead in the water removed interprovincial trade trade removed the tanker band do like he could

00:14:21.900 have done some really concrete things but instead he came along with we you know the mous we refer

00:14:28.540 to the memorandums of understandings i'll build you a pipeline if and so it's long answer um he's

00:14:35.100 in town i don't think at this point he's going to change anything because people are voting now

00:14:39.420 they've made up their minds i don't think a lot of people are going to change their mind on and

00:14:42.860 on how they vote in the next two days but i'm hoping that there is such a thing as the carny

00:14:48.220 curse and i hope that it um that it helps us is that how's your thoughts on that chris it was

00:14:55.340 chris right yeah yeah yeah no wow i hope that the carny curse is full effect and one thing that i

00:15:02.300 think is a little dodgy is uh the next day tomorrow he's doing another event up in at the

00:15:08.300 expo center and while he's doing that event there's also a polling station

00:15:12.740 advanced station open at that very location so I hope that brings out the

00:15:18.540 option to people send the message right to Carney he'll be right there in the

00:15:22.800 building you can drop your option to ballot right on his head right on thanks

00:15:27.500 for calling thanks Marty yeah lots yeah so it's it's I mean for for us in

00:15:34.580 Alberta, it's fascinating right now. Everybody's visiting, including you.

00:15:39.300 You know, Carney's in town. Poiliev's going to be in town.

00:15:43.440 There's going to be also, and for me, really the most fascinating thing about

00:15:47.960 independence from an Alberta point of view is the strange bedfellows that it

00:15:53.460 created. You know, like, like this week in particular, we had Jason Kenney and

00:15:58.480 Rachel Notley. And I don't know how much Ontarians appreciate the love-hate

00:16:03.220 relationship between those two and citizens and those people and so anyway so it is what it is

00:16:09.860 so so back to your story so you're so um you you haven't witnessed the protest against you though

00:16:16.420 that's it started when yesterday started today today i was sent some photos and essentially

00:16:22.100 this is just being done by a couple of progressive women who have clipped my podcast out of context 0.94

00:16:30.100 taking 60 second clips out of two hour long conversations and they've just been blasting 1.00

00:16:36.420 um these clips 20 like it's their full-time job so probably 30 posts about me a day

00:16:42.100 um one percent of my content has ever even touched on first nation issues we've covered

00:16:47.060 kamloops i've interviewed francis widdowson and they're really lobbying on to that and of course

00:16:52.420 i'm being painted as a horrible monster a racist a denialist none of which is true my husband and 0.53

00:16:58.900 children are Ojibwe Métis, card-carrying. Prior to the podcast, I used to make programs 0.98

00:17:07.400 for First Nation communities. I worked out there. And even now, we hire people from the

00:17:12.800 community. My kids work in the community. The whole thing is ridiculous, but they've really

00:17:18.720 caused a lot of division in my community, a lot of hate. And the only thing that I can 0.72

00:17:25.160 do is just hopefully it creates a little bit I don't think the term Streisand

00:17:30.440 effect applies specifically I mean but you know hopefully it brings you some

00:17:35.660 people who go look at your background and your profile and actually see that

00:17:39.080 it's that what they're presenting is false right I don't think like this is

00:17:44.660 not welcome politics right I mean it's vile it's vile right like I've it I've

00:17:49.580 been asked many many times to run yeah and and i usually have two answers a is i'm i'm old enough

00:17:56.460 now i paid my dues i did enough somebody else needs to carry the torch but i do get close to

00:18:02.300 going maybe i jump into it but then i think wow what you submit your whole family to all right

00:18:07.900 we got another call i uh let's let's go ahead call her where you're calling from what's your name

00:18:12.380 please oh did we lose it hello no go ahead hey marty how you doing good are you on from vancouver

00:18:24.220 sorry i missed your name from vancouver what's on your mind hey i i got a question about uh

00:18:32.860 And this rally planned by the PM, it overlaps.

00:18:41.200 Well, first of all, it's at the polling station in Edmonton, and it overlaps.

00:18:46.000 Why is this allowed?

00:18:48.660 It's a three-hour overlap.

00:18:50.360 So he's actually there holding a rally while polling is being conducted.

00:18:54.640 Is that not illegal?

00:18:58.120 I'm not an expert on the subject.

00:19:01.460 let me just put a bit of context add to your story so folks there are uh it's not carney's

00:19:06.820 rally first of all they're they're thomas lucasics uh forever uh canada group they're doing their

00:19:13.960 last minute push so they got two big rallies they got one this afternoon and you're at the

00:19:17.940 bemo center right now carla right and well we still haven't even talked about why carla is in

00:19:21.940 town so she's at the bemo center and i think their rally there starts at five and then there's one

00:19:26.560 tomorrow in Edmonton now the rules are usually that once a polling station is

00:19:34.140 established there's no campaigning around the polling station within certain

00:19:37.360 distances and stuff like that so I don't I to answer your question I have no idea

00:19:41.700 how they get away with this I actually just looked that up today because where

00:19:46.420 my protest was was also in front of City Hall which is also a designated voting

00:19:52.300 destination so i think this stuff i i i i'm not 100 clear on this but everything that i've read

00:20:00.420 seems like that is election interference and it's not allowed so if that is happening you should

00:20:05.540 probably definitely call it out i i think it's yeah i agree i i think it's been called out but

00:20:09.860 but this brings out a bigger part and i had it on here as something to talk about um you know i last

00:20:16.780 week we watched in montreal the quebec election and i was very vocal about that i said watching

00:20:21.720 that election as a data scientist i was blown away i was so impressed like the the results came in

00:20:29.480 they shared all sorts of data that allowed us to see for ourselves that everything looked pretty

00:20:34.280 transparent pretty copacetic all above board results came in great participation and i and

00:20:40.680 i praise elections quebec for their election here in alberta elections alberta for the last

00:20:46.600 six months has been nothing but a gong show like you know this week we have

00:20:51.820 advanced polling they were late opening the stations there was confusion they're

00:20:57.580 staying open late I gave an example online where I live in a house with

00:21:02.000 three people right now me and my wife and we still have a son at home and me

00:21:05.980 and my wife each got our voter registration cards and were sent to

00:21:10.480 different places to vote and I'm like for 20 years we've been living together

00:21:14.560 at the same address same thing happened to me last year and I've never gone

00:21:18.160 anywhere else yep and I'm like so I'm looking at it going okay the address

00:21:23.080 changed I didn't change the address same thing yeah yeah me and my husband same

00:21:27.280 thing this I like what's going on and then the people at the station like I

00:21:31.540 showed them I'm like I've never got one second sorry Chris are you still on the

00:21:34.360 line or did Chris hang up not still here I've got to listen away all right okay

00:21:41.300 I was gonna say thanks Chris if you don't mind hanging up and we'll give the

00:21:44.780 chance to somebody else but thanks for your call bud and and get out and vote

00:21:48.200 I'm sure you are yeah yeah yeah both my husband and I we didn't even recognize

00:21:53.360 that address and when I showed the election officials they were like they

00:21:57.920 kind of whisper to each other and then really go it's it's it's fine just take

00:22:01.880 it and like that seems really fishy yeah yeah lots I'll just add one thing

00:22:08.580 that was funny about that so i registered i'm you guys know this right i'm a liberal

00:22:13.140 quote unquote so like i register for the party so i can go to these events now tomorrow the event

00:22:18.500 this afternoon is not a liberal event it is a forever canada event you know thomas lukastic his

00:22:24.660 group but they happen to have invited carny to it so we had to register for that event i've

00:22:32.260 registered i don't think i'll get in but i just wanted to mention one thing right as part of

00:22:38.500 Thomas's group has something called, they openly say, say no to the nine.

00:22:47.120 So there's 10 questions on the referendum, but the first nine are,

00:22:50.940 the 10th question is the independence one.

00:22:52.800 The other nine are matters of immigration, constitutionality, and other matters, right?

00:23:00.160 Question five is super interesting because question five simply says,

00:23:04.180 do you agree that people who want to vote in Alberta

00:23:09.220 should have to present a passport or some form of ID?

00:23:13.020 And people who say no to the nine

00:23:14.880 are literally saying no to that question.

00:23:17.740 And I've challenged many people.

00:23:19.080 I'm like, how can you say no to the concept

00:23:21.300 of just showing ID to vote? 1.00

00:23:23.340 But the people who say no to the nine

00:23:25.100 are holding a conference today in Edmonton and in Calgary

00:23:28.460 where I need to show ID to go to the conference.

00:23:30.740 So let that sink in.

00:23:31.740 So you want me to show ID to go to your conference?

00:23:34.180 but you don't want me to show ID to vote what is the right the only rationale to

00:23:38.320 not show ID is to cheat they're saying it's racist they're under because

00:23:44.240 they're saying some it's the same argument that the Americans fight face

00:23:47.700 when when they've tried to get you know to firm up their ID laws it's that that

00:23:53.740 that it's difficult to get an ID and that it disadvantages certain people and

00:23:58.560 that it's racist it sounds more racist to assume that people can't get IDs right

00:24:03.620 you're making an assumption about their yes intellectual capabilities yes yes

00:24:08.580 absolutely yes and we also just need to stop doing that argument where every

00:24:12.620 time we don't like something it's racist it's probably not no yeah it's weak

00:24:18.140 sauce right I mean as being you while you said it so during during your

00:24:22.080 protest you're being called racist yes it's awful what else what else do we

00:24:25.900 get called we get called mega north here mm-hmm for you you might get that oh

00:24:30.840 Yeah, I've got some MAGA. I've got some KKK. That was a nice one. Definitely lots of fascism. Lots of fascists. Interesting.

00:24:40.160 Yeah, yeah. And I don't think most people even know what fascism means.

00:24:43.420 I don't think they could even spell it.

00:24:44.600 Yeah, yeah. F-A-S.

00:24:47.500 I know. Is it the S before the C or the C before the S?

00:24:51.220 Okay, so good luck on your campaign. When's the vote?

00:24:54.720 It ends on the 26th.

00:24:56.600 so this is a busy month in Canada right because we had an election in Quebec

00:25:01.160 provincial election in Quebec provincial election in provincial and municipal in

00:25:05.680 British Columbia a referendum here in Alberta municipals in Manitoba you guys

00:25:10.840 have municipals mm-hmm Wow what's your thoughts on I want to get into here but

00:25:16.800 because you're on the show here let's let's stay with Ontario because it's so

00:25:20.360 cool to get an ontario perspective um what's going on in ontario generally these days um

00:25:29.800 well we just had the osap scandal um which is hilarious that they shut down the funding to

00:25:35.320 all the ontario universities but if uh you are in china or iran or gaza you still get

00:25:42.600 funding somehow so that's been a big scandal lots of people have been talking about

00:25:46.920 And one thing that I was paying attention to was Eric Lombardi dropped out of the race.

00:25:51.480 I'm not a Doug Ford fan, and I've been watching Eric Lombardi for a while.

00:25:56.660 He's a Liberal, but I kind of liked what he was saying.

00:26:00.320 And I don't want to give the Liberals more power, but at the same time, I don't consider myself a super partisan person.

00:26:07.880 I'm not like my team no matter what.

00:26:10.680 Eric Lombardi was sounding a lot better than Doug Ford.

00:26:14.220 And I like what he was saying about bringing the Liberal Party back to sanity.

00:26:18.420 But he dropped out.

00:26:19.860 I've always personally voted for individuals.

00:26:23.960 It just so happens that most of the time, based on their qualities, their character and stuff like that,

00:26:28.920 then it just so happens that most of the time they're conservative, right?

00:26:31.400 I mean, I think I've voted Liberal provincially or federally maybe once.

00:26:37.940 and I don't always vote for the same party.

00:26:42.020 Let's put it that way.

00:26:43.340 And I think that's becoming more important these days

00:26:45.440 because there are a lot of crazies out there on both sides.

00:26:48.900 So I get what you're saying, right?

00:26:50.980 So you're basically saying that there's a liberal

00:26:52.760 who's actually makes more or is a more likable person

00:26:57.640 than Doug Ford?

00:26:58.740 What's Doug's popularity right now?

00:27:02.100 I mean, he looks like, well, Doug is the class.

00:27:04.840 We've, me and Clyde and on this show, we've made fun of Doug so many times.

00:27:09.660 I mean, like, if there was a Canadian Saturday night live. 0.91

00:27:14.160 He's a meathead.

00:27:15.220 Doug would be on the show.

00:27:16.300 And we'll come back to Doug.

00:27:17.440 We got a call.

00:27:18.140 Go ahead, caller.

00:27:18.760 Where are you calling from?

00:27:22.220 Yeah, calling from Northern Sunrise.

00:27:25.580 And my name is Doug.

00:27:28.640 Hey, Doug. 0.99

00:27:30.760 We like some Dugs.

00:27:33.360 What's on your line, Doug?

00:27:34.500 I just want, well, I wanted to mention that I moved up to Northern Center in 2020 and have every election up here, no problem.

00:27:49.400 section i went to uh the election alberta website it said i wasn't registered

00:27:57.680 so it took me four days to fill out their form will they so they would actually accept my address

00:28:08.060 and then i finally got the message you're registered how would you like your election

00:28:15.440 card so i said email it to me it never came i went in on monday to the advance or tuesday to

00:28:27.660 the advance poll and they had no record of me wow so it took another seven minutes to register again

00:28:39.380 And while I was at the poll, she had to get the supervisor there or the manager, whichever.

00:28:47.960 And I heard them talking, and they said, yeah, this isn't the first problem we've had from these rural aggressors. 0.61

00:28:58.660 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:00.020 Well, thanks for that, Doug.

00:29:02.340 So in the end, it worked out?

00:29:03.740 You were able to vote?

00:29:06.340 Oh, yeah.

00:29:07.140 Auction two all the way.

00:29:08.520 Okay. Well, thanks for being patient with that. Cause I think part of the, that's one of the things, right? Is that the frustration gets people to, I know good on you for keep like just keeping at it. Like so many people don't vote even when it's easy. And the fact that you have to keep on like showing up and fighting for this, like it says a lot.

00:29:26.840 Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Doug. Thanks for that. Thanks for sharing that. Um, yeah, you know, and again, not to dwell on the topic, but it's, it's, it's, uh, Canada used to be known for, you know, our democracy. Like we were a model. Like if you were, if you were holding an election in, I don't know, you know, Vietnam in 1970, you brought in Canadians to supervise and to help. And now we're the guys who are like, we're the gong show. I mean.

00:29:54.880 we are i heard a funny story yesterday you know when people used to go traveling they would say

00:29:59.440 you put a canada flag on your backpack instead of the american flag and then people would treat you

00:30:03.440 better yeah now i heard you're walking around with that well i heard now when people see that canada

00:30:09.920 flag they're like that's someone you want to take advantage of like that's someone that you could 0.98

00:30:14.000 easily take right we're yeah it's a label right on our floor it's a big label that guy's a sucker 0.97

00:30:19.840 that gal's a sucker wow um actually just a weird story on that i used to uh my parents lived in 0.97

00:30:25.920 morocco so i'd have i'd go visit my parents in morocco and morocco was famous for kids scamming 0.99

00:30:32.280 you and bugging you and pestering you right and so i i'd ignore them you just ignore them

00:30:37.840 and uh one day i was walking in the market and some kid just goes hey john mackinroll and i

00:30:43.300 turned around i'm like ah now he knows i speak english and that kid's just gonna hound you right

00:30:48.400 like you got like so good so good so good uh so all right well were we done on doug ford yeah

00:30:56.000 what i was going to say is so we make fun of doug ford like i love making fun of doug ford

00:31:00.140 uh it definitely looked like doug uh like so many other politicians right now had a

00:31:05.120 perfect nemesis in trump but it's obvious that trump is ignoring us right now i think trump

00:31:10.880 finally you know he he he trolled us he did what he needed to now he's back to focusing on what he

00:31:18.060 needs to worry and and then you got doug ford you got david eby whose nemesis just disappeared and

00:31:24.060 they they look like they're floundering they're like what do we do now i know so like what's doug

00:31:28.620 doing in right now how's he what's he presenting what's he saying i haven't heard anything from him

00:31:34.540 for a while other than the scandal i think he's hiding a little bit yeah but i think that's a

00:31:39.420 lot of canadian politicians without trump to just point the fingers at people love a villain like

00:31:44.700 Like you learn that from like campaigning.

00:31:46.380 People love to just point their finger at somebody else.

00:31:49.140 And it's really easy to point that finger.

00:31:53.000 And that's why Quebec was so fascinating because the Quebec electorate said, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:31:58.420 Trump, we don't care anymore.

00:31:59.700 Like, you know, it had been a year.

00:32:01.240 So the electorate in their vote basically focused, asked, had all their debates, asked the politicians, the word Trump never came up.

00:32:08.180 I think we're starting to see a little bit of a shift in the culture.

00:32:13.000 Like in B.C., you're seeing the Conservatives start to rise.

00:32:17.620 I think people can see through these acts.

00:32:21.400 Like they saw through the Quebec candidate saying that her whole campaign is basically, I'm going to tackle Trump. 1.00

00:32:27.920 People are like, well, that's stupid. 0.99

00:32:30.780 And I saw a recent university study saying that 88% of university students have woke fatigue also. 1.00

00:32:39.300 Yeah. So they basically looked at everybody's opinions on all these different issues, what their actual opinions are, and then what they say publicly. And it basically said what we all think. Nobody actually thinks this way. No, no. But they're too spineless to actually say.

00:32:54.940 is a real thing. Climate fatigue. I mean, even Greta Thunberg is on to something else.

00:33:02.560 You know, nobody talks about climate. There was another study the other day that showed

00:33:08.880 like there's a dramatic drop in the number of kids under the age of 15 who identify as

00:33:15.140 LGBTQ. It's like, oh, surprise, surprise, right? Like there was a noticeable increase

00:33:19.200 and then suddenly a noticeable drop. It was a fad. 0.92

00:33:21.640 And people are just tired of the inconsistent rage.

00:33:26.280 So like in the United States, for example, you have a woman that murdered her own children and everyone supported her.

00:33:32.900 But then you have a comedian, Shane Gillis, who said, why are women wearing slutty clothes in the gym? 0.97

00:33:39.360 Oh, the world is burning down. 0.98

00:33:41.780 How dare you?

00:33:42.500 And same thing.

00:33:43.560 I mean, what he said is bad.

00:33:45.960 But then they turned around and they criticized Sydney Sweeney for her ads on it. 0.97

00:33:51.640 like she's a whore and then shane gillis says that and they're like she's wearing the gym clothes 0.90

00:33:56.200 that yeah yeah yeah wow the mental gymnastics we will get on the topic of why you're here but one 0.96

00:34:02.520 last question did you see mark carney's little post yesterday or two days ago just the picture

00:34:08.360 of general brock no oh you didn't see that so so mark carney is still trying to antagonize

00:34:16.040 like again like he had that first video with like the little yeah so yeah so two days ago he did

00:34:20.520 again he he literally posted on x i'm sure it's on other platforms and it just said whatever uh

00:34:27.000 uh 1812 on this date and then and then it's it's a zoom in of of the little general brock figurine

00:34:34.600 on his desk okay well we got it after this call we will go back to why you're here so all right

00:34:42.040 caller where are you calling from what's your name please oh it dropped yeah you dropped it

00:34:47.560 all right well hopefully we get another one okay so why are you in town well I'm

00:34:53.080 in town one to escape the I hate Carla protest and in my town is there a 0.69

00:34:58.360 hashtag well I think hashtag Carla derangement syndrome is appropriate yeah

00:35:04.300 but I'm here to cover the Canada strong and free event so I'm here with Natalie

00:35:08.740 who you know so you're not a speaker you're covering it yeah I'm just doing

00:35:12.040 media I got a media pass and so today was all about sort of best practices

00:35:16.800 for conservatives i'm not sure everybody knows so canada strong is the manning foundation or who

00:35:21.840 is it or is it something it's its own thing it's its own thing okay um and it's a it's a the leading

00:35:28.720 conservative event in canada gathers different speakers different think tanks um so it's part

00:35:33.680 like educational like today um and then tomorrow it'll be more speaker based so we have uh pierre

00:35:39.840 will be speaking daniel smith uh tristan hopper bruce party our own boss yeah their philibran

00:35:46.080 yes yes derek will be there okay and where was it last year i don't know um the so it bounces around

00:35:53.040 it's one of those conferences that bounces around okay so it happens to be here we'll come back to

00:35:57.360 it go ahead caller where are you calling from oh yeah this is joe i'm calling from uh just around

00:36:04.240 calgary and i think for me the disconcerting thing is that since the liberals have been in power

00:36:10.400 I don't think they've answered a question of significance in Parliament in the last 12 years.

00:36:18.220 And I think the other thing too that's causing me to lose hope

00:36:21.500 is that the government can just give away billions and billions of dollars to whatever they want

00:36:26.800 and there's no oversight or scrutiny.

00:36:30.440 And I think it's just getting to a point where a person, you just start to give up.

00:36:35.300 Like, how do you change this?

00:36:39.220 Well, you're preaching to the choir, I think, here.

00:36:45.360 Well, one of the, I mean, I'm so disillusioned with the Liberals in Ottawa

00:36:50.200 that that's why I'm a separatist.

00:36:51.940 So I guess my short answer is vote option two on question 10.

00:36:58.240 But Carla, what's your answer?

00:36:59.680 Because you guys don't have a separatist movement.

00:37:01.760 So how do you...

00:37:02.720 How do you fix this?

00:37:03.980 Yeah. 0.59

00:37:04.840 You need to get people with integrity back in power.

00:37:08.240 um i don't like and you're talking about legal things here too like they can legally do all

00:37:13.500 those things uh my mind goes to like all of the scandals look at all of the scandals that trudeau

00:37:19.240 got caught in red-handed nothing they can't even do it legally and but they are like some of the

00:37:26.440 to that point you know um they are doing things like uh going as an example the trudeau went an

00:37:35.360 entire year and a half without a budget which is illegal in our Constitution

00:37:39.560 right and nobody called him out on it a few people tried to you know the

00:37:42.980 parliamentary budget officer I mean they're getting away with yeah they I

00:37:47.660 guess one of the solutions though is is we shouldn't reelect some of these

00:37:51.620 people I know like you live in the province that reelected Doug Ford I

00:37:55.820 know I don't know how that Quebecers reelected Legault which was like I

00:38:01.460 couldn't understand that but finally they saw the light and yeah there's no

00:38:06.260 easy answer there's no easy I think it was Lee's Merle that said it's not like

00:38:09.800 the old days where you would just drag your member of Parliament out into the

00:38:13.680 town hall and you would tar and feather him if you I lost an ex account for

00:38:19.220 saying that for really I lost an ex account for joking about like when do we

00:38:23.620 start tarring and family no one should do that speaking metaphorically no one

00:38:28.160 We should ever do that.

00:38:29.360 Yeah, we're not encouraging it.

00:38:31.000 So, yeah, thanks for that question.

00:38:32.440 What's your thought?

00:38:33.540 Joe, are you still there?

00:38:34.560 What's your quick thoughts?

00:38:36.320 Have you given up or what are you doing about it?

00:38:41.300 No, no, I haven't given up.

00:38:42.600 I'm definitely going to vote for separation.

00:38:48.320 I don't know.

00:38:49.460 I really don't know.

00:38:50.440 I think the other thing, too, is I think the corruption throughout everything,

00:38:56.340 all the bureaucracy i think there's so much corruption i i don't know i'm i i honestly i

00:39:04.700 have no answers like it sounds easy enough to to bring in to try to bring some people in to change

00:39:12.260 it but then now i'm got this conspiracy stuff going on where i don't trust anybody anymore

00:39:19.180 because for all i know they're like a socialist implant in the ucp party yeah so sorry i couldn't

00:39:25.620 answer your question i i honestly don't know i appreciate the call i'm just going to tell you

00:39:29.340 this i mean don't give up right um no none of us give up i mean we we've we've gone through cycles

00:39:35.420 like this in the past and there's there's generally a there is generally a correction

00:39:40.340 that occurs right like uh some scientists call it mass psychosis like what we're living through now

00:39:47.460 is is still the remnants of covid we still went through a weird phase as long as enough people

00:39:54.240 keep speaking the truth. You wake up others slowly. And then the other thing that happens

00:40:00.600 is there's the real reality. Like these people that are the carnies of the world that are

00:40:05.740 passing policies that are failed, eventually enough people, it really hurts. People, when

00:40:12.640 it starts to hurt people, then they wake up, right? And that's one of the things I've been

00:40:16.420 frustrated about is that more people, like you're suggesting, you're kind of hitting

00:40:21.960 that bottom and you're realizing it a few more people will hit it but but then hitting the bottom

00:40:26.520 is not the is just the bottom then we climb again so i don't think it's going to get fixed uh the

00:40:32.600 normal way through normal democratic processes um i something dramatic needs to happen and that's

00:40:39.640 what we see through history it's like the fourth turning things just get to like a boiling point

00:40:45.640 and either you experience some financial collapse a world war a real pandemic something like that

00:40:52.120 happens and then there's like a restart button or you get a controversial uh person that donald trump

00:41:01.320 or yeah and that's why people have called me a chump i said like i i mean intense like trump

00:41:07.160 doesn't have to be trump uh bukele in el salvador he came in with like a blowtorch and he's like

00:41:12.600 like we're getting rid of everyone in the judicial system we're getting rid of

00:41:16.140 all the ad rapper we had Ralph Klein yeah 30 years ago we need someone that's

00:41:21.240 like no we're setting this whole system on fire and we're starting over yeah

00:41:27.300 thanks for calling joke all right thank you that sounded like coaching you coach

00:41:35.700 right I did you still coach or you done coaching I do a little bit of like

00:41:39.240 marketing strategy for people but you need a political coach have you got a

00:41:44.680 political coach to help you or are you gonna do this the old-fashioned way I've

00:41:48.780 definitely talked to I have a lot of wise counsel right now especially with

00:41:52.920 all this drama I've talked to Michelle Ferrari about this I've talked to some

00:41:58.500 really good lawyers and just people that have been in the political space or have

00:42:03.000 been through these uh leftist cancel culture campaigns before yeah yeah yeah good luck so

00:42:11.240 back to the conference until somebody else interrupts it but i love this i like uh we're

00:42:15.240 trying some days some days the colors are slow some days there's certain topics that just ignite

00:42:21.160 and obviously today carney's visit and a few other things i try to bring people one thing

00:42:27.720 that is upsetting is people that call in there are a lot of people who are completely at their

00:42:31.960 wits end and and i don't like some days we do sound gloomy but some days i gotta try and bring

00:42:38.440 it back up we all do right i mean um it's not that bad i mean we we still live in canada we still uh

00:42:46.440 we're not constantly fighting with each other we're not at war we i don't have bombs you know

00:42:51.480 flying overhead like they did and yeah in israel and i had a great uber ride yesterday the man was

00:42:58.360 from Serbia and he's now a Canadian citizen and we were I always just like pour my heart out and

00:43:05.360 and in the uber and he was saying um questions from the uber well I was talking about Canada

00:43:12.300 declining and and he was saying how he's been in like some pretty savage wars and that is actually

00:43:17.580 pretty good here and I said yeah but it's declining and it should be much much better and

00:43:23.680 he totally agrees and he said well you know what your problem is in in the west right and I'm like

00:43:30.000 what well you're weak you don't protect anything you don't protect your the family your value

00:43:36.460 system and I said I couldn't agree more some some of my favorite um friends online and in real life

00:43:45.080 are people who came from behind the iron curtain yeah and and who saw this and and then escaped

00:43:51.820 and then come here and go,

00:43:52.860 you guys are doing the same thing.

00:43:54.580 You know, like this is repeating itself.

00:43:58.720 But he was basically saying that.

00:44:00.460 It's like, it's obviously not terrible here,

00:44:03.220 but he sees also like things are declining

00:44:06.440 and yeah, it's just a reminder.

00:44:08.200 It's actually a common sentiment that,

00:44:11.680 you know, I campaigned hard for the referendum

00:44:14.100 and collecting signatures and stuff like that.

00:44:17.180 And I heard a similar comment from a lot of people.

00:44:19.540 People would say to me,

00:44:20.360 marty you're just complaining you have it so good here and yes pragmatically i realize why because

00:44:28.020 we there are a lot of people for whom alberta is the land of opportunity they came here from a

00:44:33.660 really shitty place if you came to alberta from war-torn yes syria or ukraine or whatever in the 0.97

00:44:40.020 last five years this is heaven is it i talked to a lot of immigrants and i actually just interviewed 1.00

00:44:46.280 Kevin Dahlgren and he's interviewed 10,000 homeless people okay the amount of

00:44:51.100 homeless people who are fresh immigrants to Canada or like at one point were an

00:44:57.020 immigrant because they couldn't make a go of it here the the dream is not as a

00:45:01.580 lot no no no I get yeah yeah no I get that I get that but I guess I'm 0.82

00:45:05.340 generalizing that there are you're leaving a war zone yeah yeah there are

00:45:08.360 a lot of people who come here it's this this place Canada Alberta

00:45:13.040 specifically the standard of living here is pretty darn high for sure compared to most places so yes

00:45:17.740 I get that some people come here and say you're basic to me you're basically complaining it's good

00:45:22.680 here I'm like yes but I want to make it better like it's not a race to the bottom and just simply 0.88

00:45:28.780 saying hey we're better than North Korea that's not good enough for me no and I think that's where

00:45:32.700 the elbows up people are getting stuck they're like no Canada's awesome and it's like yeah you

00:45:38.320 should always be grateful for what you have every day focus on everything that's good in your life

00:45:42.560 But I don't think you're a real patriot if you're not paying attention to the problems and you're watching us just slip into decline and not doing anything about it.

00:45:50.340 Yeah.

00:45:50.880 You ever heard of deep canvassing?

00:45:52.860 No.

00:45:53.400 I learned a lot about canvassing while I was collecting signatures.

00:45:57.440 You know, canvassing is going and trying to get people, entering into dialogue with people.

00:46:02.600 And deep canvassing is a nice way to disarm those people.

00:46:05.900 And the opening that I learned for the discussion with the elbows up, the really hard elbows up, is like, on a scale of 1 to 10, how good is Canada for you right now?

00:46:17.480 And if somebody said 10, it'd be pretty easy to go, really?

00:46:20.600 But most didn't even say 10.

00:46:22.320 They'd say something like 7.

00:46:23.860 I was like, okay, cool.

00:46:24.800 You're a 7.

00:46:25.580 I'm a 4.

00:46:27.140 So let's explore why you still think it's a 7, right?

00:46:30.940 And so that was deep canvassing is look it up someday.

00:46:34.740 maybe maybe it could be useful while you are you doing that kind of stuff for you

00:46:37.740 door-knocking and I was until this all this nonsense kind of blew up or knocking

00:46:43.140 with a bodyguard yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah not good okay so you're at the

00:46:48.840 conference training any so no speakers so far or anybody in particular you're

00:46:55.200 listening looking forward to hearing um well I've never met Pierre or Danielle

00:47:00.300 So I'm excited to meet them tomorrow.

00:47:03.020 So as a media personality, you get an opportunity to do the scrum with them kind of thing?

00:47:07.660 Or do you think it's low enough that they're just moving around?

00:47:11.660 I think I'm just very good at weaseling my way into the appropriate place.

00:47:14.980 Okay.

00:47:15.320 We'll see.

00:47:16.400 You've never met Danielle?

00:47:17.500 No.

00:47:18.100 She's very nice, very likable.

00:47:20.100 I really like her.

00:47:21.040 One-on-one.

00:47:22.240 Like, she's one of those rare politicians where I would sit around the campfire with her.

00:47:27.160 And you know that if you ask her for an opinion on something or chat, you're going to get a good chat.

00:47:31.280 I'm very jealous as an Ontarian that you guys have Daniel Smith.

00:47:36.200 And like from afar, I see a woman that is really doing her best.

00:47:41.480 And this might have said people, I see her doing her best to manage a whole lot of situations right now.

00:47:47.440 It's a big tent. 0.90

00:47:48.800 It's called the United Conservative Party.

00:47:51.480 It's a big tent of people on the right.

00:47:54.280 And we are like herding cats.

00:47:56.520 Yes.

00:47:57.000 I get that. I get that. I mean, we are stubbornly independent and self-sufficient and opinionated and to try and bring us under the one roof is a hard, hard thing.

00:48:08.660 And it's good to be particular and it's good to want what you want.

00:48:11.980 But, like, you guys could have Doug Ford right now.

00:48:14.680 Or Rachel Notley.

00:48:15.840 Or David Eby.

00:48:16.800 Oh, God.

00:48:17.560 Daniel's a dream.

00:48:18.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:48:19.580 Yeah.

00:48:20.040 No, I've been lucky because I'm in a small writing and we don't have a UCP MLA.

00:48:28.860 I have an independent MLA.

00:48:31.400 My writing is so interesting.

00:48:32.920 I live in one of the most conservative writings on the planet, you know, northwest of here.

00:48:38.220 And it's an experiment. It is one of those places where we can try and bring in new parties and new candidates without the risk of splitting too much.

00:48:49.780 Okay. It's like a libertarian colony.

00:48:51.800 Yeah, basically. And so she's come many times to our writing to do our town halls because there's nobody else who can do it.

00:48:59.640 So she doesn't personally. And a month ago, there was a hundred of us. And it ended up being a one-on-one chat.

00:49:06.800 Actually, it was funny. 0.87

00:49:07.900 She did good, Danielle, that day because we were kind of ganging up on her.

00:49:11.820 She knows me, right?

00:49:13.220 Yeah. 1.00

00:49:13.600 And she still brings her bodyguards.

00:49:15.120 And when I walk up to the microphone, I'm like, I'm going to be nice.

00:49:17.500 I'm going to be nice.

00:49:18.240 Don't worry about it.

00:49:21.100 She handles herself well. 0.98

00:49:22.660 Yeah.

00:49:23.000 So, Danielle, have you met Pierre?

00:49:26.240 I have not.

00:49:26.920 Not met.

00:49:27.960 I've been to his rallies.

00:49:29.860 He did come to Kenora.

00:49:31.540 But there was a huge lineup.

00:49:33.540 I just opted out.

00:49:35.220 Like, see, yeah, Pierre, Pierre, Pierre is one of those guys where I, I, I've chatted very quickly with him and you can tell he, he can't drop the politician.

00:49:46.700 And I wish he would. He, he, he, you know, like just drop it. Like if, in some contexts, right? If we're around the fire, just drop it. Don't give me the canned answer. Like give me your answer.

00:49:57.000 needed more time like i i know jasmine spent a little bit more time with him and i i think has

00:50:02.460 experienced more like pierre the human being too so you probably just need more time yeah she's a

00:50:08.140 wonderful lady all right we got we got a couple more calls hopefully go ahead call her where are

00:50:12.180 you calling from what's your name harry make i'm calling from edmonton alberta hi harry how are you

00:50:18.960 oh i'm wonderful i just like a comment on the show that's being aired right now

00:50:26.300 What I'd like to do is I'd like to comment on the issue from the biblical perspective.

00:50:35.120 I don't know if this would be well received or not.

00:50:40.020 But what I want to comment on is that when the Lord told us to pray, he said, let your kingdom come.

00:50:48.840 Let your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

00:50:51.660 The word kingdom means that God is the king and we should follow him.

00:50:57.880 And he told us that God's will would be done on earth as it is in heaven.

00:51:04.240 And what's happening now is that the corruption that's being perpetrated by Ottawa is not God's will.

00:51:13.440 and we are quickly, quickly going into a godless society

00:51:21.500 with all the corruption that's coming from Ottawa.

00:51:24.800 And I would like to say that we really need to get back to God

00:51:31.820 and his instruction for us.

00:51:35.680 I can't disagree with that.

00:51:38.460 I appreciate you calling and sharing that perspective.

00:51:40.960 I mean, there's an interesting book, I think it's called The Courage to Save Canada.

00:51:47.460 Yeah. And it's a book basically stating the this country was created based off of Judeo-Christian values.

00:51:54.520 And regardless of your religion, the country would be better served if we did adhere to them in terms of peace, less division, prosperity, all of those.

00:52:04.900 I don't disagree. Actually, thanks for calling, caller. John, are they still on or?

00:52:10.960 Okay, thanks for calling. No, actually, interesting segue. One of the speakers is that you're going to meet, maybe you've met him, is Bruce Party. So Bruce, I've met Bruce many times. Bruce is a strong advocate for independence, but he goes, I've seen him on stage where it gets really fiery, especially here in Alberta, because he's a proponent of a constitution without God.

00:52:36.440 and i i know what he's saying but i have a hard time wrapping my head around it

00:52:43.980 myself personally as a christian and um and it's a it's an and i don't entirely agree some days i

00:52:51.420 agree with bruce but on that one some days i i think i charlie kirk brought it up very nicely

00:52:56.900 that we we function as christian societies and our society is set up to be a christian society

00:53:03.240 Yes, absolutely. And certainly people can have a moral compass without God. It's totally possible. We all know people like that. But there is just something, I think, more powerful about believing in a higher power. But again, having that as a part of your constitution, it doesn't even mean that you are forced to be a spiritual person. It's just like these are the rules for living that we know work.

00:53:26.460 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to see, I'd like to see Bruce Party debate Jordan Peterson.

00:53:35.580 Oh, that would be good.

00:53:36.580 That would be really good.

00:53:37.420 That would be good.

00:53:37.900 Because last time I saw Bruce, well, I've seen Bruce several times. He comes here all the time. He's a strong supporter. I think he's even speaking tonight somewhere in Alberta. But I saw him on stage. What's the Australian-American journalist from 60 Minutes? Lara something.

00:53:54.880 loomer yeah and he debated her really oh my god it got ugly she did not like it

00:54:03.160 like she was so pro-christian constitution and he was so atheistic and

00:54:09.820 then she literally was like anyways it was it was funny funny funny funny it's

00:54:14.380 just words folks it's just a base like we got to be able to have those chats

00:54:17.820 right without name calling I know I'm I'm as hot-collared as anybody else and

00:54:23.320 and I'm guilty of it, but we've got to be able to have those chats.

00:54:27.560 That's all that it is.

00:54:28.780 Yep.

00:54:30.540 Okay, cool.

00:54:32.480 I've got a couple of topics here.

00:54:34.240 Anything on your mind?

00:54:35.500 Anything you want to talk about?

00:54:36.720 I mean, we're really running out of time.

00:54:38.260 We've got about four minutes and I have to do my closing.

00:54:41.040 I don't know.

00:54:41.560 I just really like being in Alberta.

00:54:43.280 I feel like this province is really checked in.

00:54:46.260 Like, people pay attention to politics.

00:54:48.440 They're really involved.

00:54:49.920 Like, there always seems to be, like, some sort of event or group or something rallying around here.

00:54:55.120 And I just really like that this province seems to stay involved.

00:54:59.300 We became political to a whole new level in the last couple of years.

00:55:03.680 Before I take that last call, like, I spent a lot of time working in Quebec.

00:55:09.400 And I always said that in Quebec, politics was a blood sport when I was there back in the days.

00:55:14.240 It was in the papers.

00:55:15.340 It was everywhere.

00:55:16.260 It was in the cafes.

00:55:17.780 Everybody.

00:55:18.100 and here back in those days here in Alberta it was blah nobody cared about

00:55:21.880 politics but recently we've become COVID turned that around for us we have

00:55:29.080 annual general meetings of the Conservative Party they the UCP that

00:55:33.980 attracts 6,000 people oh wow and we had and I was at one of the one of the events

00:55:38.860 a couple years ago in Red Deer one of the MLAs was all proud of us like hey we

00:55:43.340 got 6,000 people I'm like what are you proud about yeah we're angry we're

00:55:46.660 angry don't take this as a this is not a endorsement of what you guys have been

00:55:51.400 doing if you were doing a great job it would be like 20 years ago and we

00:55:54.660 wouldn't care yeah but there's 6,000 of us here so before I'll take one last

00:55:59.500 call you got to make it sort of quick we got about four minutes go ahead what's

00:56:02.600 on your mind go ahead that I lose it John

00:56:10.080 all right no worries sorry about that okay well um that that's it for the callers um

00:56:22.320 last okay so you love it here in alberta would you ever move here um if i just lived in a city

00:56:29.520 for sure i i would be gone maybe even in the united states but we have this like perfect little

00:56:36.440 nugget of land um like i'm so detached from what's happening in in canada it really feels like i'm on

00:56:44.260 i am on an island but right you can disconnect and i can disconnect um if i didn't have that

00:56:50.280 uh i i would be gone i would be in alberta okay and and all right well we'll leave it at that

00:56:56.320 we'll leave it at that uh i i i i love alberta that's that's all i'll say hi i'm in the same

00:57:03.080 world i mean i'm i'm lucky i live in alberta uh you know i was actually this is what i was going

00:57:07.420 to ask you i'll let this be one of my last questions but um i have a rule about how close

00:57:12.220 my neighbors are so i asked you how many neighbors you have right i my rule is um it used to be that

00:57:17.980 if i take out uh uh my driver and i can hit it 300 yards and i hit your house you're too close

00:57:24.140 yep that was too close now it's like if i take out a shotgun and or a firearm and i hit your house 0.88

00:57:30.100 you're still too close. How far are your neighbors? Are they a three wood, a three iron, a good?

00:57:35.820 Yeah, they're about a three iron. But then of course we have an airplane too. So we often fly

00:57:41.800 to other islands or other lakes that are like 50 miles past the furthest road north. And because

00:57:47.880 the airplane's right there, we can take off. So most of the time we are just in nature. There's

00:57:53.580 nobody around us. But everyday living and those neighbors are only there in the summer.

00:57:58.460 are you a pilot I've been thinking about it right now I'm not too many things on the go I just I

00:58:04.740 can't imagine that first solo flight he's so scary but it may be in my future thanks for coming on my

00:58:11.820 show yeah thanks for having me it was a great first experience for me now I can do guests going

00:58:17.660 forward all right folks that that's it for this show as right now the John's got the this we can't

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00:58:42.160 a hundred dollars a year right now the paywall is down i think the paywall will be down for another

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00:58:57.360 go see the content right now i got colleagues here that have been breaking stories doing an

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00:59:08.160 see you next week when i see you should be super interesting so next thursday the referendum will

00:59:13.600 be three days behind us hopefully it's a good outcome for all of us and i'll see you next

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Western Standard - October 18, 2026

MARTY UP NORTH： Alberta’s referendum enters the final stretch

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