Western Standard - October 25, 2026


MARTY UP NORTH: Alberta’s referendum is over. Now the UCP faces the real test

CORY MORGAN SHOW: Premier Smith stands alone

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00:00:00.000 hey folks welcome back happy thursday october 22nd
00:00:30.000 Uh, depressing to think that it's only two months until Christmas.
00:00:34.260 Uh, two months until the, we hit the shortest daylight day of the year.
00:00:40.340 The good thing is that after that, the days get longer.
00:00:44.120 Um, so enjoy, I'm enjoying these last couple of days of nice warm weather.
00:00:48.920 Uh, forecast for Alberta, I think it's calling for snow.
00:00:52.420 Some of you guys who've been following me lately know that I've been struggling to,
00:00:56.560 i have a couple of jobs i need to do uh come back from hunting and i gotta service my quad it needs
00:01:01.800 a pretty thorough service and then i also uh had a engine troubles on my truck coming back and i
00:01:09.580 diagnosed it diagnosed it yeah diagnostic whatever and i need to do a simple spark plug job on my
00:01:17.620 truck but nowadays remember the good old days when you'd uh you'd lift the hood up on the truck and
00:01:22.500 you'd look down at the engine and you could see the the the pavement on both sides of the engine
00:01:28.120 block and and there was nothing in the engine compartment you know you had your engine you had
00:01:32.780 your alternator you had your battery you had your distributor cap and some wires and a couple of
00:01:38.780 things nowadays you lift the hood up on your truck and you're looking down it's like where the heck
00:01:43.720 is everything right and just to get to the spark plugs on my truck I have to remove a lot of plastic
00:01:48.540 and parts and screens and stuff like that.
00:01:52.220 Some trucks nowadays are barely designed to be serviced.
00:01:56.660 I mean, you almost have to lift the engine out of the bay
00:01:58.880 to get to the spark plugs.
00:02:02.720 All right, so lots to, as again, it's a call-in show.
00:02:08.240 Phone number down on the screen there, 866-479-9378.
00:02:13.200 Please call in, share your thoughts.
00:02:15.480 I think today we're probably going to talk mostly about the referendum that we just had.
00:02:22.220 And I want to talk about it.
00:02:25.120 I mean, you know, some people are saying, OK, let's pause.
00:02:27.940 Well, we can't pause just yet.
00:02:29.800 I mean, one thing for certain, I just checked the website and Elections Alberta is not done counting, right?
00:02:39.460 Like Elections Alberta, by their own rules or by the rules, we're supposed to have the preliminary count.
00:02:46.320 I get it. Nothing's official until whatever, like October 29th.
00:02:50.180 But it is now 56. Like the polls closed.
00:02:54.500 The polls were supposed to close at eight o'clock on Monday.
00:02:58.620 And then throughout the day, they started announcing that polls were staying open because they opened late.
00:03:04.120 Not generally not because there was lineups.
00:03:06.620 They kept the polls open because a lot of them opened late for all sorts of technical reasons.
00:03:11.800 And then officially, the last poll closed at 10.59 p.m. on Monday.
00:03:17.220 So Tuesday at 10.59 is 24 hours.
00:03:20.720 Wednesday at 10.59 is 48 hours.
00:03:24.880 And now we are, you know, so 48 plus 10, we're into 58 hours and the count is not complete, which is why we still need to talk about this.
00:03:34.920 and out of the out of the 5557 polling stations 100 still haven't reported so there's stuff to
00:03:44.600 there's we we we we got to keep talking about it because some of the discussions now that have
00:03:50.380 happened are already wrong and i'll i'll hint on that or not i'll hint i'll touch on that in a
00:03:55.420 minute because like premier smith uh sort of did a victory lap yesterday or the day before you know
00:04:01.880 everybody's doing laps claiming some sort of victory
00:04:06.040 Smith claimed a victory along the lines of
00:04:09.780 you know I got what I wanted I got yes
00:04:13.960 to the first nine questions well sorry Premier but at
00:04:17.980 this point the last four questions five
00:04:21.920 six seven and eight have now flipped to the no and
00:04:25.320 you know I'm pretty good with the stats and with only about
00:04:30.180 1% of the polling left to be reported, there you go, John's got it on the screen,
00:04:34.980 with only 1% left to be reported, I can do the math in my head.
00:04:38.220 So 2 million votes, 1% left to be reported is 20,000 votes.
00:04:42.620 So there's maybe 20,000 votes.
00:04:44.260 Most of these differences are greater than 20,000 votes.
00:04:48.220 So it's going to be hard to flip them again. 0.98
00:04:51.120 And so I think Danielle Smith might have to do it.
00:04:54.400 We'll get back to that.
00:04:55.460 But so long story short, we can still talk about this and it's inconclusive.
00:05:00.420 So our analysis is partial.
00:05:05.180 But before I go, before I dive deep into this, I think it's important to give ourselves a quick history lesson because, you know, history repeats itself.
00:05:16.560 And I think we're back into one of those moments in history that's about to repeat itself.
00:05:21.720 So I'm not going to go back too far, but I'm going to go back to to 2012, 2013, somewhere around there. Right. And conservatives in Alberta at that point had had had had conservatism in Alberta had fractured. Right. And so you had the conservative party and you had the Wild Rose.
00:05:44.420 And the reason for that is because we've said this many times. Conservatives are a rowdy bunch. We have all sorts of different conservatives, right? We have people that are fiscally conservative. We have people that are institutionally or politically conservative. We have people that are environmentally conservative. I could even say religiously conservative.
00:06:07.400 you know what i mean so you can you can there's not just one flavor of conservatism but generally
00:06:14.020 speaking we have something in common which is we're trying to preserve something we believe
00:06:20.320 in smaller governments we believe in governments that spend our taxes wisely we believe in freedom
00:06:26.560 of speech and we believe in you know less interference in our lives by government so we
00:06:32.980 have that in common, even though we come at it from slightly different angles. But where we don't
00:06:39.720 have always commonality is how to move forward. Or we can identify the problems, but we don't have
00:06:48.060 a common path to solving the problem. So that's where we differ. So in the 2000s, 2013, after the
00:06:55.460 Klein era um conservatism conservatives got upset at in general and started to fracture and we had
00:07:02.440 two groups and then um then there was the the the floor crossing with Danielle Smith which at the
00:07:10.040 time she had a valid reason right she thought and we're seeing this pattern again she thought that
00:07:15.120 she was going to unite the conservatives she thought that she couldn't be in because she was
00:07:20.000 in the wild rose in opposition and the conservative of Jim Prentice were on the other side
00:07:24.840 And she was basically in her mind, she's like, well, I can't I can't be the opposition when I'm kind of agree too much on things.
00:07:33.560 And so she crossed the floor, Prentice called the snap election being opportunistic and the populace revolted and we voted in the NDP.
00:07:47.020 And I think probably by accident at some point, it can be debated, but a lot of vote splitting because the wild rose continued to exist and the conservatives continued to exist, even though many had crossed the floor.
00:08:01.940 The NDP existed, the liberal, lots of vote splitting.
00:08:04.640 And we all wake up and holy smokes, we have an NDP government, which turned out to be a disaster.
00:08:10.400 Then fast forward to just before 2019, just before the end of the Notley era, comes a savior in the form of Jason Kenney.
00:08:27.720 And Jason Kenney says, I'm going to unite these conservatives.
00:08:32.200 Okay.
00:08:33.480 Now, and I'll be honest, I'm on the record for this.
00:08:37.220 I held my nose and I voted for Kenny once they formed that party and I chose him as a leader
00:08:46.500 because I'd seen his ability to bring people under a big tent.
00:08:52.060 But I did not like Kenny personally and I also found him opportunistic, right?
00:08:57.380 He had been a small fish, no pun intended, medium-sized fish in a big pond in Ottawa.
00:09:04.920 He had had some roles in cabinet and whatnot, but he wanted to be a big fish in a smaller pond, I guess.
00:09:12.860 So he came here. I saw him as opportunistic, didn't quite like it, but I plugged my nose and I thought he'll serve one term and he'll have a very specific purpose, which is unite.
00:09:23.480 The purpose at that time was to defeat the NDP. So we succeeded in defeating the NDP with Kenny.
00:09:28.980 and then poor kenny you can say what you want he got hit by covid so that was unfortunate he didn't
00:09:36.600 have the ability to show exactly what he could do in the beginning of covid but uh covid dragged on
00:09:43.560 and i think he dragged on with covid and he did some draconian things right he locked us down he
00:09:49.180 did the vaccine mandates he arrested pastors he did all of that stuff so uh we had a leadership
00:09:56.620 review he got like 52 percent or 51.3 whatever it was and i was surprised he did the the proper
00:10:05.560 thing and he stepped down okay and i thought perfect that is the natural evolution kenny
00:10:11.800 came in united us and as a united conservative party and then the party had uh will have other
00:10:18.960 phases along the way will will transform itself it's a new party right the united conservative
00:10:23.440 party exists since whatever 2018 so it's a relatively new party so we we we get rid of
00:10:30.680 kenny we bring in danielle smith through a proper leadership race and things seem to be going
00:10:36.200 according to plan and smith is got elected and so smith first she got appointed premier then she
00:10:43.820 got elected in 2023 okay so she got elected in 2023 and um at that point the conservative party
00:10:53.060 the united conservative party had become a pretty active party through the efforts of a lot of
00:10:57.660 people over time and groups like take back alberta and others had appeared and the the citizens of
00:11:06.980 alberta especially in the ucp became very active and in 2023 2024 2025 we had ucp annual general
00:11:18.100 meetings in Edmonton, Red Deer, Calgary, if not in that order, that were extremely well attended,
00:11:25.200 like five, six thousand people attending those events. And we were discussing policies on the
00:11:31.360 floor and we were, and in my opinion, I think, and I think many people think this way, and it is the
00:11:39.380 way it's kind of structured, parties have a board of directors, like the members elect a board of
00:11:44.820 directors and then debate on policies and things like that and then and then candidates appear
00:11:51.600 candidates are elected in the election but they take they're supposed to sort of adopt and and
00:11:57.760 and promote the policies of the party but they also represent their constituents that's the
00:12:03.460 democracy we live in right you rep you you choose which party you're going to be on depending on
00:12:10.220 your personal values and then you run but you ultimately represent your constituents and and
00:12:16.360 so the party that was working for the party things were and and we were giving guidance to the party
00:12:21.640 to danielle smith to the mlas and they were moving the province in a direction now
00:12:29.980 Now, while all of this is going on, we are constantly under attack by the liberals, right?
00:12:40.280 So Trudeau came in power in 2015.
00:12:43.300 So Trudeau was in power at the same time as Notley, and that made for a terrible duo, and they attacked us.
00:12:49.360 And they hurt our economy. They hurt Albertans.
00:12:54.100 we rejected
00:12:55.720 Notley, but we were unable
00:12:58.460 to necessarily reject
00:13:00.560 Trudeau, so Trudeau kept
00:13:02.420 on doing what he did
00:13:03.480 while
00:13:05.060 Kenny was in power, and then he's doing
00:13:08.320 what he's doing while
00:13:09.680 Smith was in power
00:13:11.380 now Smith recognized that, and Smith
00:13:14.580 remember, the first thing she
00:13:16.460 enacted when she got in power was her 0.70
00:13:18.680 Bill 1 0.99
00:13:20.660 the
00:13:21.880 the Sovereignty Act, which is a weird document, right?
00:13:27.440 It's like it almost has no teeth,
00:13:29.180 but it's basically saying that whenever Ottawa interferes,
00:13:33.140 whenever laws from Ottawa interfere in provincial jurisdiction,
00:13:40.300 that we will fight Ottawa.
00:13:41.820 That's basically all that act says.
00:13:43.760 Because the way our constitution is written,
00:13:46.100 Ottawa can do what they do.
00:13:48.360 And all we can do is fight them back.
00:13:50.160 There's no guarantee.
00:13:50.880 So we're always going to the courts.
00:13:53.840 That's a mechanism of going to the courts.
00:13:56.960 And by the way, we all know the courts after Trudeau have been stacked with liberals, right?
00:14:01.060 They're just stacked.
00:14:03.160 But Smith adopts this doctrine of sovereignty, a stronger Alberta within a unified Canada.
00:14:11.480 So that's her personal doctrine.
00:14:13.100 She's said this all along, and she doesn't want to go down in history as the leader when Alberta separated.
00:14:21.680 She wants to go down in history as the person who got Alberta a better deal within Confederation.
00:14:26.900 But in the beginning, her job was just to fight Trudeau, which she did nicely.
00:14:32.560 And I want you guys to call on this in a minute, but let me finish my little monologue here.
00:14:39.280 So she wants to go down in history as the person who will get us a better deal.
00:14:44.160 I personally think, I've always thought that that's kind of naive because we've been trying to get a better deal since 1905.
00:14:53.060 And there have been, we've had grievances with Ottawa forever.
00:14:57.560 Some of them are very structural, right?
00:14:59.860 It's pretty straightforward.
00:15:02.400 We don't have the right number of seats proportionally in the House of Commons or in the Senate or in the Supreme Court.
00:15:08.440 So we're misrepresented statistically, even if we had the right number of seats, we'd be misrepresented because we're outnumbered. We don't like the transfer payments. We don't like several processes that exist, equalization, transfer payments. We're getting shortchanged on CPP, EI, things like that.
00:15:28.140 So we have structural problems that are extremely complicated to fix.
00:15:32.280 And we have, and not we, but people, I think, better than Smith have attempted to fix these problems.
00:15:39.300 And we have had periods in our history where the provinces, other provinces had similar grievances and other provinces were willing to try and work together.
00:15:48.680 So we had the Meech Lake Accord and the Charlottetown Accord, attempts to fix the Constitution because the Constitution was repatriated in 1982.
00:15:57.340 It's flawed.
00:15:58.100 Quebec hasn't even signed on to it.
00:15:59.860 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:16:01.380 But, and so those attempts happen, people tried, and it failed.
00:16:07.460 And most provinces don't even want to touch that anymore.
00:16:12.200 Because most other provinces, I would say, have found a way to benefit from confederation.
00:16:18.300 And Alberta, I'll argue, doesn't really benefit from confederation.
00:16:22.700 especially when you have guys like Trudeau
00:16:24.460 who've been trying to push us down
00:16:25.800 and shut down our oil industry.
00:16:28.080 You know, he clearly said,
00:16:29.120 I want to shut down oil sands
00:16:30.400 and so forth and so forth and so forth.
00:16:32.460 So then in the history,
00:16:34.000 Daniel Trudeau got punted.
00:16:38.280 Now, Daniel can take some credit
00:16:39.620 for punting Trudeau,
00:16:41.300 but the reality is the country,
00:16:43.280 the liberals themselves realized
00:16:45.380 that Trudeau was a liability
00:16:48.260 and they got rid of him, okay?
00:16:50.320 We don't know the deal that was made,
00:16:51.860 But remember, it started unfolding for Trudeau when Chrystia Freeland stepped down as his finance minister and his deputy minister.
00:17:00.920 And he brought in other people and then he had to prorogue parliament.
00:17:04.280 And suddenly he magically comes out of that and says, I'm going to resign as soon as a new leader is selected.
00:17:10.500 And then there's this weird process and Carney gets selected.
00:17:14.420 I still think to this day that the liberals got rid of Trudeau because he was a liability.
00:17:18.880 They saw it in the polls and they replaced him with Carney.
00:17:22.520 So can Smith take full credit for getting rid of Trudeau?
00:17:27.100 Absolutely not.
00:17:28.220 She fought him, but she's not responsible for getting rid of him.
00:17:32.360 She's not responsible for getting rid of Stephen Gilboa.
00:17:37.340 Carney or Smith can, sure, genuinely make the claim that that that she's been working better with Carney.
00:17:46.960 But I think Carney is responding to overall pressures and he's pivoting. But Carney has told us very clearly in a 600 page book called Values what he plans on doing.
00:17:59.400 So he still believes in climate change. He believes that that capitalism out on uncontrolled capitalism is bad, that it will serve the interests of the capitalists only and not serve the broader purposes of society.
00:18:13.760 And he believes that capitalism needs to be reined in with a lot of rules by government.
00:18:20.840 And he believes that government should choose the winners and losers and the companies and the projects that go forward and all that kind of stuff.
00:18:27.020 So he's exhibiting that. And he also believes, I'd say to a certain extent, that a lot of industries should be nationalized.
00:18:34.460 So we already have a ton of national companies like Via Rail and Canada Post and whatever.
00:18:40.920 And now he's in the process of nationalizing, let's say, Stelco and others.
00:18:45.900 And then he's even thinking of getting us in bed with the EU.
00:18:50.060 So now back to Smith.
00:18:53.660 So, OK, I'm going to take the caller because I value the callers, but I really wanted to finish this.
00:19:01.120 But I'll take the caller. Try and be quick caller because I don't want to get distracted.
00:19:05.640 Go ahead. What's on your mind? Where are you calling from?
00:19:07.080 hi marty it's uh ken cong central alberta how's it going ken what's on your mind
00:19:13.740 um so i just want to state that i'm uh i'm conservative on so many levels
00:19:20.460 but i'm disappointed with the results of this referendum however um i'm more disappointed
00:19:28.540 with danielle smith and her victory lap i feel she's a bit of a chameleon with her base to get
00:19:34.560 elected from the get-go and now it seems like she's handling that base to cater to a potential
00:19:42.080 new basis uh you know forever canadian crowd that supported the nine questions
00:19:49.040 yeah um i just i just feel that uh we're really being let down on all levels of government here
00:19:56.880 i i can't disagree ken i'll i'll um i'm not going to respond to your comment directly unfortunately
00:20:02.880 i want to just finish what i was talking about but but uh but i agree ken thanks for that call
00:20:09.120 okay thanks have a great show you thank you john i i don't know if they i could hear it but barely
00:20:15.360 just you know maybe we needed a fine tuning but anyways okay so i'll i'll rush through my comments
00:20:20.160 and then and then we can open up the floors and really have some discussions right so um
00:20:25.440 so so so then so we we still have issues so danielle believes that she can get us a better
00:20:30.480 deal and danielle believes that in her mind confederation works and can work okay that's
00:20:35.700 fair that's her that's her strategy i disagree with it i don't think so and and i'm not unique
00:20:41.220 in my thinking there's a lot a lot a lot of people so i would say based on the election
00:20:46.560 the referendum results so far i would say about 50 of the members of the ucp think like i do which
00:20:56.340 is um this constant having to fight for everything with ottawa is unhealthy and there's other problems
00:21:04.240 over the horizon immigration's out of control we can see what's happening in europe carney wants
00:21:08.940 to join the eu um you know the economy's tanking wokeism is still alive and well in the east and
00:21:16.160 we see all these other problems so we can agree on some of the existing problems we don't necessarily
00:21:21.760 all agree on the path forward but there's kind of two camps right now the status quo camp and
00:21:27.980 we need to get out of here camp and then so then which brings us to this weird exercise we just had 0.97
00:21:37.180 we the two groups uh use this and danielle is so danielle is a conservative but she's also 0.98
00:21:44.680 believes in democracy and based on all sorts of events that have happened in the last couple of
00:21:49.140 years you know failures of the recall uh like recall legislature and things like that she gave
00:21:54.880 us a brand new tool called the citizens initiative act which allowed us supposedly to petition and
00:22:01.840 demand things from the government such as a referendum well that turned out to be
00:22:07.220 a piece of legislation that needs a lot of fine tuning because it came out too quickly and and
00:22:13.780 Any law that comes out needs to be tested. That's normal, right? So this law came out and it failed its first test because the court said you can't do a referendum without separation, without first consulting with First Nations. And there was other issues and other issues and other issues. And the courts were adjudicating on this. And there's an appeal and there's a process with the courts that's going to take time.
00:22:37.200 but there was a window and i think the window is important right there's an election coming up in
00:22:43.020 a year from now and so i think there's a reason why we just had this referendum this referendum
00:22:49.100 was just not it wasn't just about giving a consolation prize to um to the separatist okay
00:22:57.560 or to the people who started the petition there's something more to that but i'll get back to that
00:23:02.280 a second so so danielle gets elected does a few minor things okay well not so minor i mean you
00:23:10.360 know gives us a new bill of rights um change you know curt curtails all this uh dei and wokeism
00:23:18.600 that's going on in alberta but she still runs high deficits and so forth and and she you know
00:23:25.640 as a politician you're supposed to do the big unpopular things in your first year do a few
00:23:29.960 few of them in your second year and then your third year and fourth is spent doing nothing and
00:23:34.040 your fourth year is spent trying to get reelected see where I'm going with this so now we just had
00:23:38.460 the third year and what did she do in the third in the part of the second and third year she did 0.96
00:23:43.000 this nonsense Albertan X panel we've had three or four of those in the past she pulled Canadian
00:23:48.720 or Albertans we told her pretty clearly what we wanted but she said I need a further mandate
00:23:57.780 and so she put questions on a referendum
00:24:00.700 which questions which aren't even the ones
00:24:02.780 that came out of her Alberta Next panel
00:24:04.800 but so she put these questions on the referendum
00:24:09.120 thinking I'll get my mandate
00:24:12.340 she wanted a mandate this year
00:24:15.100 so that from this referendum 0.97
00:24:16.820 so that she can have something 0.51
00:24:18.980 so she can know what to campaign for next year
00:24:22.120 so then as the caller just said 0.99
00:24:24.840 elections Alberta sucks 0.99
00:24:27.080 We get partial results and Danielle goes out on stage and starts doing a little dance. 0.99
00:24:32.100 Yay, I got my mandate. I got yes to questions, whatever, one through nine.
00:24:39.580 She got yes for questions one through five, which were mostly around reform of immigration laws,
00:24:48.880 which I think are going to be complicated, and then voter identification.
00:24:53.300 but she got a she at this point she has a no on anything to do with opening the constitution
00:24:59.340 opting out of federal programs appointing judges um i can't remember i'm drawing a blank but
00:25:06.120 she got a no on that and and what's important here is that i think danielle has been on a short
00:25:15.440 leash no matter what because we didn't she came in telling us she's going to do get us a better
00:25:22.220 deal and there is no evidence that she's gotten us a better deal as much as she sings right now
00:25:27.020 she's like i got you the mou i don't care about the mou it's an mou it's a memorandum of
00:25:31.680 understanding there's no pipeline pipeline is years down the road and and even if it gets built
00:25:37.500 it's not the pipeline we wanted it's going to the west coast we need one that the industry wants
00:25:42.400 one to go south and we want one built by the private sector not by the federal government
00:25:46.820 and not owned by the government and not paid for by tax dollars and so forth she'll say she got
00:25:51.620 uh you know the the emissions caps reversed and a few other things whatever victories she's
00:25:57.760 claiming right now are pretty pretty minor pretty nonsensical who cares about them right
00:26:04.120 so now she's running out of time and she knows that we're impatient and and she was hoping that
00:26:09.880 she'd have a clear mandate on something and she doesn't even have a clear mandate after this
00:26:13.520 election the only thing she has now is that that she got to go on is immigration which thankfully
00:26:20.200 the Conservative Party of
00:26:22.960 Quebec, Eric Duhem,
00:26:25.460 reached out
00:26:26.020 an olive branch to Alberta
00:26:29.460 and said, hey, maybe we can work together on this one 0.99
00:26:31.400 because they're frustrated with
00:26:32.440 immigration.
00:26:35.580 But Carney came here and said
00:26:37.280 no to the nine, and Carney is touring
00:26:39.380 the world right now. He went to India
00:26:41.500 and he's talking about bringing
00:26:43.140 immigration levels back up. He has
00:26:45.440 to because it's
00:26:47.460 a flawed solution, but it's the
00:26:49.300 only solution he has right now to a crashing gdp a crashing productivity uh people that are dropping
00:26:56.920 out of the workforce because they're aging and people and and a tax and a shrinking task base
00:27:04.700 that is necessary to keep paying all these lavish benefits that we are lavishing upon ourselves 0.97
00:27:10.400 so carny is not going to go zero immigration which is what the only thing that's left for
00:27:18.480 danielle right now and so i gotta i gotta calm down a second so now danielle um is so then the
00:27:28.960 voters if you can def you can interpret these results in any way you want there's a lot of
00:27:34.120 ways to interpret them and there's going to be some data to come out still and to be analyzed
00:27:37.800 but i one of my interpretation of this result is similar to the one in quebec which is
00:27:45.780 the voters rejected a single solution
00:27:50.660 and then give a clear mandate
00:27:55.080 and just sort of sent a signal to the politicians
00:27:57.940 to continue to working together
00:28:00.600 and try and advance something forward.
00:28:03.500 So they're basically saying to Danielle,
00:28:05.620 you better work fast with Carney
00:28:07.400 and try and do something.
00:28:09.880 Otherwise, there's going to be another election
00:28:12.480 in 12 months,
00:28:13.940 and now we're going to demand some real change that's my thoughts on this whole thing so far
00:28:20.080 which now brings me to the last little bit that i want to talk before we open the line sorry i took
00:28:26.340 30 minutes to talk but while danielle was doing her victory lap she said something that i found
00:28:33.080 alarming and kenny repeated the same thing which is she said a i'm not having another referendum
00:28:39.660 and I don't want to talk about this anymore.
00:28:42.740 She basically said she doesn't want to talk about independence
00:28:45.220 and she basically said that anybody who wants to represent the party,
00:28:49.060 whether it is through running for a role in the board of directors
00:28:53.900 or running as an MLA,
00:28:55.280 has to get behind, quote-unquote, her and the party
00:29:00.840 and stop talking about independence.
00:29:03.600 Well, that's a crazy thought, a crazy comment from her,
00:29:09.200 or even crazier from Kenny, who said the same thing,
00:29:14.540 because there are 515,000 people who voted for option two.
00:29:19.620 Only 990,000 people voted for Danielle Smith in the last election.
00:29:26.980 But beyond that, I'm not a separatist because I'm pushing an ideology.
00:29:33.280 i'm a separatist because i think that's the solution to our global our core problems
00:29:42.480 and she's not a separatist because she thinks she has a different solution
00:29:47.120 we're both conservatives everybody who voted everybody who's a member of the ucp is a
00:29:53.040 conservative being separatist is not a reason to exclude us from a party being separatist is because
00:30:02.220 we have different solutions to the problem but the party needs to stay together and talk and
00:30:11.020 that's and that there's a lot of talk going on lately about i don't want i don't want to see
00:30:18.100 what happened so this is where history repeats itself we're back to where we were in 2013
00:30:24.580 2013, with two groups that disagreed on the path forward, we agreed on the basic problems.
00:30:35.760 We need better government. We need smaller government. We needed to be fiscally responsible.
00:30:40.440 We needed to respect our rights. We need this, this, this. But we disagreed on the path forward.
00:30:46.200 We fractured. We let the NDP in. We got back together. We're about to fracture again.
00:30:51.240 So can we finally realize as a group that we can have different solutions and we need to talk about that, those differences behind closed doors, on the floor of the AGM and in all sorts of places.
00:31:08.260 But if Danielle just strictly excludes a group of people because their solution is not the same solution as others, she's going to say, we already talked about the solution and my solution is the right way.
00:31:23.340 No, it's not because 50% of your party chose a different solution.
00:31:29.760 So when you got a 50-50, you don't have a victory.
00:31:33.440 You can't claim, Danielle, that your solution is the only path forward.
00:31:37.320 There are clearly a difference in opinion on the path forward.
00:31:43.960 And right now, my olive branch to you is don't kick me out and people like me, but embrace us.
00:31:52.000 Bring us into the party and don't try and quiet me.
00:31:54.940 We're going to keep having that debate.
00:31:57.020 But I think that the solution going forward is not to try and open the Constitution and get us a better deal.
00:32:02.500 The solution going forward is to put a heck of a lot of pressure and ultimately separate.
00:32:07.320 but i'm open maybe there's a third solution or a fourth solution but we don't know that solution
00:32:14.660 if we don't get together and talk about it so right now we're stuck on two solutions that are
00:32:19.040 50 50 and and that's the problem that i have right now so wow i'm amazed that i was able to keep that
00:32:27.700 straight in my head so please now let's chat so somebody give me a call because i mean i got other
00:32:34.900 topics on here i don't even want to go into them i think they're boring right now i mean do i want
00:32:39.880 to talk about the parliamentary budget officers report sure i'll always love talking about that
00:32:44.060 france is in chaos inflation's going up the incident at wainwright tragic by the way but
00:32:49.680 let's talk about what i just said so go ahead caller where are you calling from what's on your
00:32:53.260 mind are you talking to me right yeah yeah absolutely oh i wasn't sure if there was
00:33:03.520 someone else ahead of me okay uh the question on the point um i certainly have is that i agree with
00:33:11.060 you as far as our perspective on canada i think alberta looks in canada's cup to see if they have
00:33:18.520 enough and canada looks in alberta's cup to see if we have more than them and that's kind of the
00:33:26.380 difference between most comedians in Albertan but I understand the frustration right now
00:33:36.300 within our province and within the party and I fear that like you said we're going to head back
00:33:46.280 to 2013 where we were and that is if we don't get on board with what we just saw
00:33:53.700 and get behind Ms. Cramer, who is a strong leader
00:33:58.180 and has done plenty of things and tried to lead from the middle.
00:34:03.100 We are just heading towards an NDP government.
00:34:07.220 And I understand that you agree or that you think,
00:34:09.780 and I do agree with you, what the solution would be for us,
00:34:13.600 but there isn't enough support for it.
00:34:18.400 And I understand that you're frustrated
00:34:20.100 that she wants to shut down that open conversation on that within the party for now.
00:34:26.720 But in order to maintain the coalition of the different, the big tent, we'll say,
00:34:34.960 we have to not have that distraction or we are going to end up with an NDP government.
00:34:43.380 Because you can say that it's a 50-50 thought process right now or ideas, but it isn't.
00:34:49.060 it is three to one we're in the 25 because there are other albertans here that are on the other
00:34:56.100 side and right now all the polls some polls have the ndp flight we have called and most of them
00:35:02.740 have us kind of neck and neck but you know what i'm saying yeah yeah that's the risk i think we
00:35:07.220 have no i've i stay on the line i mean i like that's what i want to do right i want to explore
00:35:13.460 this i hear your comment and i heard it in 2013 and i heard it uh after ken uh after kenny right
00:35:19.940 i heard the same thing i mean basically what you're what you're saying i think if i paraphrase
00:35:28.100 is hold off for a year and the most important thing right now is not letting the ndp in the
00:35:35.060 in power so that's more important than than the threats of ottawa and so i i can wrap my head
00:35:40.580 around that i can wrap my head around that and i can hold my nose and or hold my my my my talk and
00:35:48.100 my and and just sit back and do nothing and just to make sure that the ndp doesn't get elected i
00:35:54.660 can do that but i'll tell you it's difficult because i've done it once and now i'm going
00:35:58.820 i'm being asked to do it a second time and the first time i did it you know everybody said let's
00:36:02.980 just worry about not getting rid of knotley and then we'll make changes we got rid of knotley
00:36:08.340 but i dare say nothing got better not dramatically afterwards so i i i hear that but the other
00:36:14.840 hang on but the other pushback i also present to that argument is that do we exist like it
00:36:23.360 do we exist is is just like is let's not let the ndp get in power a a goal like is that a valid
00:36:31.380 goal what am i preserving what am i being conservative if that's all i'm doing you know 0.53
00:36:36.100 what i mean i understand what you're saying but what are the chances of accomplishing the goal
00:36:46.800 we do have if the ndp do win yeah yeah no that is absolutely that is the um what do they use for a
00:36:56.560 term right now existential threat the existential threat is that because you have abby willis as
00:37:06.080 as the national leader of the NDP, right? 0.89
00:37:09.600 As the, no, no, no, keep all the oil in the ground.
00:37:12.760 And regardless of how much Nadi Natsi wants to separate himself
00:37:16.360 or distance himself from that, that's just the policy of that party.
00:37:20.680 Yeah.
00:37:21.180 That's just, you know, that's what they're about.
00:37:23.760 And they'll just say, yes, we'll do more pipelines.
00:37:26.220 But Mark Carney, what we'd like to do is bring in full ESG as well.
00:37:31.480 We would like to make sure that we put a full carbon score
00:37:34.880 on every single thing and make sure that everyone's paying higher carbon taxes.
00:37:39.960 But we want the pipeline.
00:37:41.260 We really do.
00:37:42.200 But we want to make sure, you know what I mean?
00:37:44.240 Do you see?
00:37:44.880 Yeah, yeah.
00:37:45.280 So, okay, so here's the compromise that I was going to get to
00:37:49.660 and that I'm proposing, right?
00:37:51.320 What I'm proposing is that somebody like Danielle Smith has to say,
00:37:56.180 she has to kind of retract some of the comments that she made this week,
00:37:59.180 and she has to say, I will accept everybody, all conservatives into this party,
00:38:04.880 She has to say that. And then if she said to me, if she said, I will accept you into this party and I recognize that your way forward is different than mine and I'm asking you to pause this battle temporarily while we fight the NDP, if she phrases it that way, then I'm on board.
00:38:25.260 But if she phrases it the way she did, sorry, but if she phrases it the way she did, then I'm going to say, let's go the way it is, and I'm going to blame her for splitting the vote, not me.
00:38:39.660 okay so the question i have for you is that if danielle smith comes out and does exactly what
00:38:47.740 you just said hey guys what we really need to do is just put this to bed for a bit until we get
00:38:55.360 reelected what do you think the cbcpv and eventually comes up to the we told you she's a secret 1.00
00:39:02.120 separatist she has a hidden agenda for down the road she was lying about being a federalist and 0.94
00:39:08.660 what do we get out of that they're gonna just get another and you get it yeah yeah no they're
00:39:13.420 gonna say that stuff anyway but they'll have something to point to now you're playing the
00:39:18.780 what ifs i like what you're doing which is okay you're trying to you're you're you're making it
00:39:23.600 before you move your chess piece you're trying to figure out what the other side is going to do i
00:39:27.700 like that i get that but um i'll just push back this way no matter what she does cbc and ctv will
00:39:35.580 criticize her you know what i mean like it's it's a it's a zero-sum game for her like it so so so in
00:39:41.980 that mindset me personally in that mindset i move ahead with what i think is right regardless of
00:39:48.780 what the city i do understand that yeah yeah no i do understand that i just don't want to give them
00:39:54.220 the fuel to make the fire bigger and look like it might be credible that's all i'm saying yeah yeah
00:39:59.340 as far as you and i as far as you and i agreeing you know i i'm in the i'm in the rimby writing
00:40:08.060 oh yeah for this referendum okay so i okay you're not gonna that's the that's the now um
00:40:17.180 i understand what feeling like yeah i know the right answer and i agree with you marty
00:40:22.300 no no we're just having a debate we're having a debate it's not about agreeing or disagreeing
00:40:29.480 entirely we're having a chat by the way congratulations to you guys in rimby i mean
00:40:32.880 uh what are the other writings rimby uh west yellowhead uh grand prairie some great writings
00:40:39.980 that that that sent a message thank you for that yeah yeah stetler not the chief notley yeah
00:40:46.960 But anyway, I appreciate it.
00:40:50.440 My phone is beeping, beeping, beeping.
00:40:52.380 Lots of people want to come on the line.
00:40:54.860 I have one last comment for you, Marty.
00:40:56.920 Go ahead.
00:40:57.860 When I was younger, I went to step out to cross the road in the crosswalk.
00:41:02.680 And my dad said, hey, watching the car coming.
00:41:05.440 I said, I know, but I have the right away here.
00:41:07.920 Oh, yeah. 0.94
00:41:08.660 And he says, yes, but if you're dead, you'll be right, but you'll be dead. 0.82
00:41:12.340 We can be right all we want, but if we have an NDP government, we're dead. 0.60
00:41:15.840 I've heard that before. I appreciate the call. Thank you, my friend.
00:41:20.660 That was good. I hope everybody can hear it.
00:41:23.440 John, I think the sound's better. There was a couple of days ago where the sound was
00:41:27.440 fantastic. I don't know if it's mostly related to people's phones
00:41:31.240 or what it is. Okay, the line was beeping. Go ahead, caller. Let's keep
00:41:35.320 having fun with this.
00:41:39.060 Hi, it's Gordon calling.
00:41:40.980 kate what's on your mind well in regards to uh what happened here with the referendum
00:41:49.720 uh you know i was somebody who i did some volunteering i did some scrutiny work i've
00:41:54.760 given donations but uh and i've gone to all the rallies that they had here in edmonton
00:41:59.380 and uh and i i went to the last one on the 17th and of course i was i was very disappointed in
00:42:06.700 the crowd i'm just going to say it all right i'm not going to try to fudge it i thought there was
00:42:10.740 going to be a much bigger crowd being the last one but in all three that i was at i kept asking
00:42:17.800 myself the same old question where are the young people everybody there was like in their 30-ish
00:42:26.860 it's whatever up to where i am in in seniors where are the young people why aren't they here
00:42:34.440 We're doing this for them. I'm 70. I'm in my 70s. If we would have, say, get through a referendum, the benefits to me would be marginal, maybe a little more pension money, maybe a little bit more taxes.
00:42:48.240 But I was doing this for them, for their futures.
00:42:53.960 Where are they?
00:42:55.060 And then when I hear that the Rebel News put out a statement earlier this week, you probably heard it.
00:43:01.580 120,000 young Canadians between the age of 20 and 40 departed from this country.
00:43:07.520 Now, I imagine the majority of them went to the U.S., but they were talking about all the different countries they went to.
00:43:13.400 And that's the route the young people are taking. 0.99
00:43:16.120 They're taking the easier option, pack my suitcase and I'm gone because they need me and I don't have to put up with this crap. 0.96
00:43:24.600 Yeah, well, I'll say a couple of things.
00:43:30.200 Packing up and moving is not always the easy option.
00:43:33.640 I did that in my life.
00:43:35.280 And it's pretty, you know, it's not something people take lightly.
00:43:38.500 I mean, you leave family behind in a bunch of things.
00:43:40.920 I'll just say that.
00:43:42.380 but as to where they are um it's a question that came up all the time they are there okay they're
00:43:49.320 just probably not at the same events as you like i went to town hall same as you right i go to the
00:43:53.960 town hall in cremona and you look around and the crowd looks pretty old but that's the that's how
00:43:59.900 that crowd got their information it would go to town halls but when we did the town and i'm speaking
00:44:05.280 truly from experiences when we're doing these town halls we are often filming it and streaming it we
00:44:11.500 call it and online we usually have more people watching online than in the town hall and and we
00:44:17.580 know that the people watching us are younger people on on youtube and stuff like that so just
00:44:23.760 because you're not seeing the young people at some of the events that did not mean that they're not
00:44:28.280 there they're just they're just they just take in information differently does that make sense
00:44:32.340 no maybe so maybe yes but i i still think that when when it came push came to shove and you need
00:44:39.940 to go and put your ex on paper yeah i'm still saying they were a boy um yeah anyway that's all
00:44:47.140 i wanted to say no no i i'm gonna be uh i'm gonna be zooming in on the call tonight uh alberta
00:44:53.060 priority project and maybe we'll get a chance to say something i don't know but i do want to attend
00:44:58.020 it tonight and uh see what they got to say maybe get a chance to say something or check something
00:45:03.540 but i do have more to say but you know yeah your place is not to do it you probably have other calls
00:45:08.340 and people to entertain here so that's great i'll be on that call as well that's the way i saw it
00:45:14.500 and when i was and when i was scrutinizing the same thing people coming into the hall it was all
00:45:22.260 the mid-30s 40s 50s 60s 70s crowds there were very few if any 20-something year olds
00:45:31.460 it was just
00:45:32.840 it wasn't there man
00:45:34.540 appreciate the call, thank you
00:45:36.700 see you later
00:45:37.880 he's talking about Mitch Sylvester's
00:45:41.240 hosting a zoom call
00:45:43.320 at 7 o'clock, if you're a member of the
00:45:44.980 APP you probably got the email
00:45:46.800 and I'll be tuning in, I want to hear
00:45:49.040 what Mitch has to say, and I've said it before
00:45:51.160 I still think we
00:45:53.180 owe a debt of gratitude to Mitch
00:45:54.540 he picked up the ball and ran with it
00:45:57.200 and brought us pretty far
00:45:58.560 and I think in part
00:46:01.280 the referendum was an opportunity because of him um by the way like yeah good comment you know did
00:46:11.700 the youth come out um i think that's something we'll be able to look at in the uh full data when
00:46:18.740 it comes up but right now the participation rate like there's two million votes already and i think
00:46:23.500 there was 3.1 million electors. So, you know, it's 66%. Wasn't a huge turnout. Not as big as
00:46:31.420 expected. And I don't think that the data is granular enough for us to be able to tell if
00:46:35.900 the youth came out or not. But that's always been a reality, regardless. Youthful people
00:46:42.700 are less political than older people. It's just a fact. Go ahead, caller. Where are you calling 1.00
00:46:47.540 from what's on your mind hi marty uh yeah my name is ryan um from southern albarta just an hour from
00:46:55.760 the u.s border but uh this um whole referendum i think it was great that like all this voting this
00:47:06.400 is awesome we went through everything that they wanted us to go through we did the signing uh
00:47:15.220 we did the voting everybody should be just proud of themselves the work they've done
00:47:21.300 they put in and i just want to say everybody just take a deep breath and just kind of relax
00:47:31.140 this question can if if it went the other way um and we had the opportunity to continue
00:47:41.540 well we would still be in Canada and it would maybe take another six months it could have taken
00:47:48.300 another year before we even got the binding referendum so right now is a perfect time for us
00:47:57.160 with Danielle Smith what she's saying let her say what she says keep her there now she has the ball
00:48:06.520 in her court she has to prove what she's been saying all along that she can make a better deal
00:48:14.600 everything like that the um canadian albertans that voted in this referendum the 15 uh
00:48:25.800 1 million 500 people they're expecting her to do something now right and so and so yeah what i'm
00:48:34.360 saying is oh let her stay there let her do her thing and then the independence uh people the
00:48:43.480 solidists the separatists whatever whoever you are we have time to uh continue and and educate people
00:48:54.040 Now, like we've seen the shenanigans of the Alberta elections, Alberta, we and we can show people that now that the mail-in ballots, this and that, whatever, we can educate people.
00:49:12.160 Yeah. OK. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying that everybody.
00:49:19.160 Okay. I got lots of calls that I got 10 minutes left. So I'd like to get to a few more. Appreciate the call then. Thanks, my friend. Thank you, Marty. Thank you. Oh, John. Is there another call online right now? Or? Sorry. Okay. They'll call right back.
00:49:35.440 boy I guess
00:49:39.260 we're going to continue this next week
00:49:41.420 right I mean I never even touched on
00:49:43.180 actually next week when we
00:49:45.380 meet we'll be discussing the results of the
00:49:47.260 BC election I think but
00:49:48.760 you know one of the things
00:49:50.340 one of the things I wanted
00:49:53.380 to as the viewer said
00:49:55.180 or the listener we're not going to 1.00
00:49:57.260 kick her out I mean there's no mechanism to kick her
00:49:59.240 out and then when she says she's 0.95
00:50:01.200 going to kick us out there's no mechanism
00:50:02.660 it's sort of not
00:50:05.140 practical at this point i don't think a new party will have time to uh get created but um we'll see
00:50:14.720 we'll see i mean there are people talking about a new party but i'm not advocating for that at this
00:50:18.900 point um now the risk for danielle is even though there is no mechanism to uh kick her out there are
00:50:25.560 people scheming to do that right now go ahead caller where are you calling from what's on your
00:50:30.140 mind this is jack from medicine hat hey jack how are you oh from danielle's own writing
00:50:37.140 uh yeah the very same one um i'm just calling in regard to the your guys's concern with the
00:50:46.480 ndp split and the youth for being a 31 year old guy i grew up remembering the good times but i
00:50:54.700 never thought to experience them myself and i think the trouble is is after 10 11 years of the
00:51:00.780 trudeau government a lot of these younger people grew up in this world they just think this is
00:51:05.340 what it is they don't they were too young to remember the good alberta time excellent point
00:51:10.520 i mean i feel sorry for somebody who's 32 years old or 33 or you said 31 i think like
00:51:15.780 yeah you i'm i'm 59 you know i was i was when i i was 32 years old in uh i'm having a hard time
00:51:23.540 doing the math here i think i was 32 years old in 1998 right i mean life was booming was so good for
00:51:29.700 me in 1998 so good yeah i remember it as a kid like my father was a lifeliner and most of my
00:51:38.580 family in the oil field i remember how it was but you're fighting that you're fighting an
00:51:43.780 indoctrination system in the public schools too like they want to paint this country as something
00:51:48.800 that it's not and i don't think there's a lot of initiative for them to go look for the answers
00:51:54.480 either themselves and maybe that's the step going forward we need to take yeah no i appreciate that
00:52:01.520 so uh what's your um i'll ask you a quick question any any uh any big winners in this referendum
00:52:08.320 let me give you who's who's the bigger winner uh between let's say uh smith nenshi thomas
00:52:15.120 lucasic and mark carney any big winners among those four i think they all lost in a way i think
00:52:22.880 danielle put herself in a corner where she can't deliver on her nine questions like i think they'll
00:52:28.160 just drag it out and create a civil war within the ucp party i i don't see how she didn't get out of
00:52:36.560 that in a way like she doesn't have a strong enough mandate my opinion on the nine questions 0.56
00:52:40.400 even go to the feds and say look they'll just say look there's a bunch of people riding the fence
00:52:45.300 from our end of it right yeah okay no good uh i'm i'm sort of on the same place as you thank you i
00:52:51.540 got a couple of calls on the line that i want to take before the end of the hour here i appreciate
00:52:55.480 the call uh from medicine hat what was your name steve right no oh he's probably jack oh jack sorry
00:53:02.680 all right thanks jack all right let's try and get a couple more callers in or maybe three more go
00:53:06.780 go ahead caller where are you calling from oh lost it again that's okay that's the problem
00:53:14.360 right now folks uh we've had this it's not a problem it's it's a limit it's a constraint that
00:53:19.260 we have we only have one line and you're being put on hold and i think some people drop while
00:53:24.380 they're waiting but uh it's uh yeah the winners and losers um i everybody's going to have a hard
00:53:30.900 time claiming a victory, right? Lukasik campaigned hard on say no to the nine. So he got, I'm going
00:53:37.780 to say he got five out of nine. He might claim five out of 10 or six out of 10 if he has question
00:53:45.520 10. So did he get a full victory? I don't think so. Danielle Smith, I don't think she got anywhere
00:53:51.840 near a victory. I mean, she was using this as an excuse to get a mandate. She didn't get a clear 1.00
00:53:59.060 mandate i think or she got a mandate on something that's going to be hard to change i don't know
00:54:03.380 how she's what she's going to campaign on next year uh nenshi was campaigning as i'm captain
00:54:09.780 canada you know and uh and nenshi was campaigning on the fact that danielle was a separatist well
00:54:16.660 i think it's pretty clear that danielle's not a separatist and uh he didn't need to be captain
00:54:22.180 canada nobody took him seriously and and nenshi i think nenshi would have liked this to go
00:54:29.220 differently so that he could have campaigned against it all through next year right so nenshi
00:54:33.780 needs to find like what's nenshi gonna nenshi wants to campaign against the referendum because
00:54:40.100 he sure as heck doesn't want to campaign on his track record right so now nenshi next year he's
00:54:44.900 stuck trying to campaign on this track record all right caller go ahead
00:54:48.900 hi can you hear me yeah yeah perfect hello yep oh hey hey uh hey marty this is seph um i was
00:54:58.440 thinking the other day i was in your shop and we were having a chat and i think at this point the
00:55:03.940 most important thing might be for us to stop talking about this separation movement and for
00:55:10.480 the third party advertisers to just park it for the next year because if it becomes an election
00:55:16.220 an issue, I think we're finished.
00:55:19.860 Yeah, no,
00:55:20.560 like I said to one of the early callers,
00:55:22.580 I have no problem parking it. I have no,
00:55:24.520 like if somebody asked me sort of nicely
00:55:26.500 with a very valid plan going
00:55:28.520 forward, you know, hey, can you just park it for a year?
00:55:30.700 This is why, so forth and so forth.
00:55:32.660 I can park it. But if somebody says
00:55:34.540 I want you to park it permanently, and
00:55:36.480 if you don't park it permanently, then you're out of this
00:55:38.540 movement and out of this or out of this party.
00:55:40.640 I have a difficulty with that. Do you know
00:55:42.480 what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I can park it
00:55:44.120 like anybody else I mean I'm gonna uh I'm not gonna I'm gonna park this separatist issue and
00:55:51.240 what I'm gonna do for the next year is continue to highlight how we're getting a bum rap in
00:55:55.280 Confederation that I'm not gonna stop like I'm not gonna stop showcasing all the bad things that
00:56:00.160 Ottawa is doing to Alberta yeah absolutely yeah it's gonna be tough for people like Jeff
00:56:07.500 Rath to be quiet though that that's what kind of concerns me but I really hope that everyone can
00:56:12.700 just calm down and wait for the year to pass and then return to it yeah i might have to try and get
00:56:19.300 jeff on the show one of these days you're right but jeff's a lawyer right that's what he does i
00:56:23.200 mean he's he's uh it's part of his personality he's a big personality we'll see yeah thanks for
00:56:28.740 the call sep and like i said uh invitations open if you want to change the bearings on that quarter
00:56:33.060 yours uh let me know and they're not that expensive and they're easy to do all right bud have a good
00:56:38.520 one perfect that sounds great yeah right on i got great neighbors uh live in a nice neighborhood
00:56:45.160 where everybody helps each other all the time and uh and and that's what neighbors and that's
00:56:50.020 what albertans do and that's what conservatives do right i've always said that like i don't need
00:56:54.060 the government to tell me to be nice to my neighbors i'll do it i actually i hate being
00:56:59.400 told what to do by my government um i just i just hate it and all right okay i'm kind of
00:57:05.440 We're getting low on, I can stretch it.
00:57:09.180 Actually, I've never asked John,
00:57:10.400 how far past the hour am I allowed to go?
00:57:12.620 Are there rules?
00:57:16.520 Okay, so I can go a little bit past.
00:57:18.420 If you guys were like really, really, really wanting to talk,
00:57:21.580 although this was a great chat.
00:57:22.720 Okay, so let's set it up for next week, right?
00:57:26.120 We're going to have the BC election results next week,
00:57:29.140 so we're going to have to try and digest
00:57:30.560 how Carney pivots with all this
00:57:33.880 Because I think the conservatives are going to, or the non-NDP are going to win in BC.
00:57:39.120 I've got to stop calling them conservatives because I don't think they're quite conservatives.
00:57:43.400 And next week we will have had finally all the results.
00:57:46.600 I don't know if Danielle will do some kind of retraction or what she will do or some adjustment. 0.58
00:57:51.520 Because I think she needs to.
00:57:52.900 Like this was, compared to what she said two days ago, this is a big change.
00:57:57.000 Like she did not get four of those constitutional questions, which was a big part of her strategy going forward.
00:58:03.880 So next week, I think we'll be exploring the winners and losers a little bit more.
00:58:08.620 And who knows what else?
00:58:09.760 I mean, welcome to Canada.
00:58:11.220 There's something.
00:58:11.840 My bingo card is, I take my bingo cards every week and I throw them in the garbage because I don't have, you know, there's so many events.
00:58:19.880 I did not have an MMA fighter getting on stage at the legislature telling us to vote for independence on my bingo card last week.
00:58:30.500 and i didn't have the u.s sending canada a letter saying stop interfering in our elections i didn't
00:58:37.560 have that on my bingo card last week so all right folks uh it's the top of the hour it's a great
00:58:43.520 conversation i am going to go home and finish working on my truck um as usual we can't bring
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