Western Standard - NATION OF PEOPLE ｜ Why Does the West Keep Paying for the East？

00:00:00.080 In today's episode, we are looking at the social contracts in Canada, and of course there's two.

00:00:06.460 The social contract in eastern Canada focuses on state support.

00:00:10.860 It defines the nation.

00:00:12.760 The social contract of western Canada focuses on self-initiative.

00:00:17.280 And it's not a coincidence that the three half-provinces in Canada are in the west, 0.89

00:00:22.940 and that they are the ones that are now paying for the social contract of the east.

00:00:30.000 Hi, I'm Natalie St. Hilaire. With me is Randy Royer. We are going to explain the two primary

00:00:50.860 social contracts in Canada and how each has a couple of second tier contracts. We're going

00:00:56.940 explain where they came from historically and what they mean to the operation of the nation today.

00:01:03.500 We'll show you how the situation has led to a heavy tax burden,

00:01:08.540 excessive wealth transfers from west to east, and much of our national political dysfunction.

00:01:15.740 We'll also show you how it has led to special treatment of favored companies, and most of all,

00:01:21.820 to a 30-year downward spiral and a cycle of the nation's financial stability that gets worse

00:01:29.180 every time the cycle repeats. Okay, Randy, so we're here to talk about social contracts today.

00:01:35.980 I think it would be great if you would take the time to explain to us what even is a social

00:01:40.780 contract. Well, the concept of a social contract was developed by Jean-Jacques Rousseau just

00:01:47.820 before the right around the time of the french revolution and you know the late age of enlightenment

00:01:52.700 and all that stuff it's fundamentally the agreement between those that are governed and

00:01:59.100 those that govern and there's always in every culture and every form of government there's this

00:02:06.860 inherent agreement uh that that keeps the two pieces together the governed and the governor

00:02:13.180 So these things, they aren't always spoken aloud.

00:02:15.820 That's correct.

00:02:16.860 But they exist and it was identified that this is a real thing. There's an understanding

00:02:21.980 between the state or the government and the people. So what are some examples?

00:02:26.780 Well, some of the best known ones are of course the United States and that good example is

00:02:35.100 there you surrender your sovereignty to the state and they in turn promise that you will be

00:02:41.260 important. They care for each government, cares for each individual American, and that you will

00:02:46.800 have a chance to achieve the American dream. The other one that's very important, and I certainly

00:02:53.620 saw this when I was traveling in Russia, is that the agreement in Russia is let the guys at the

00:03:00.220 top do whatever they want as long as they just leave me alone and I can live my life. And so

00:03:05.920 So every country, every country, no matter whether they're an organic state or a mechanical state or whether it's a dictatorship or whatever it is, there is a social contract.

00:03:16.020 Okay.

00:03:16.560 And what you're saying or what you claim is that in Canada, we have two different social contracts operating at the same time.

00:03:24.460 Of course we do.

00:03:25.400 It's Canada.

00:03:25.900 And of course, we don't want to talk about it, but it is fundamental to us trying to figure out how to go forward in Canada.

00:03:32.360 we need to understand where we came from and why our social contracts are different

00:03:37.220 and what are the implications of that difference.

00:03:41.180 Okay, so tell me, tell me more, what are they?

00:03:44.860 Well, it kind of follows the character discussion that we had in the previous episode.

00:03:50.560 You have in the colonial character, they have a nanny state social contract,

00:03:57.520 which is basically that we will defer to authority as long as you take care of us as best you can.

00:04:04.080 And then in the Western Canada, where we have this pioneer character,

00:04:10.440 the agreement is that the government will support us in our personal and private initiative.

00:04:17.880 As long as that continues, then we will support the government.

00:04:21.200 And certainly in Alberta, you can see we have these long stretches of governance.

00:04:25.240 I think we've changed government only six times in over 100 years and you can see 35 years for the

00:04:31.160 social credit, 42 years for the progressive conservatives. That was because there was

00:04:37.160 this tacit social agreement that the government supported the people in their search for self

00:04:44.200 initiative. Those are the two basic ones. Okay, I mean nanny state seems a little harsh

00:04:50.680 but I understand the overall, you know, meaning there. Where did it come from? Where did that

00:04:57.220 concept and agreement even come from? Well, it came from the colonial roots that, and this was

00:05:04.800 the same thing that, you know, on the character side that we talked about. The colonial root was

00:05:10.140 that you're there to support a European crown. And there was always, except for on the West Coast, 0.70

00:05:16.560 which we're going to talk about, there was always sort of direct support from the European crown.

00:05:22.020 You know, when the United States started the War of 1812, you know, invaded Canada,

00:05:27.460 the British were there to support us.

00:05:29.240 And there was a strong relationship between the colonizers and the royal crown.

00:05:36.740 And that just generally evolved.

00:05:38.600 And then, of course, United Empire Loyalists, when they came to Ontario in the Maritimes,

00:05:43.220 that supported it again, that we will be loyal to the European crown as long as you do whatever

00:05:51.700 you can to support us. So that's where the nanny state came from. Okay, so nanny is like 0.91

00:05:56.760 the crown. The nanny is like the royals that are taking care of me. That's the... 0.88

00:06:02.380 Originally. And then of course, the federal government took over that position and that

00:06:09.120 became the crown effectively in fact we still call crown lands you know crown holdings and all that

00:06:14.960 stuff we still refer to our federal state as the crown and so yeah that's where it came from so

00:06:21.520 it's the idea someone's going to take care of me as much as possible and of course we're going to

00:06:26.960 talk about this in a second is that has evolved over the years and and actually accentuated i

00:06:33.040 see okay and so what about the other one the well the other one is again we talked at pre

00:06:38.880 in previous episodes about the way that the West was settled and how that was different

00:06:44.240 and how that created a different character. Well, it also created a different social contract.

00:06:48.960 And in that social contract, remember from Calgary, for example, the government in Ottawa

00:06:55.760 is two time zones away, 2,500 kilometres through this dense forest and then across these open

00:07:04.400 Prairies, it was virtually impossible, not completely impossible, but it's very difficult

00:07:11.280 for the Ottawa government to have a meaningful impact on the pioneers in Western Canada.

00:07:17.680 And so therefore, it was detached. So therefore, the people had to survive on self-initiative

00:07:25.520 and working together collaboratively. And then I think there was a territorial government before

00:07:31.120 1905 and it was very slight it was a very small endeavor and we didn't even have a provincial

00:07:37.440 government until 1905 so that social contract was well established and that's why it's more

00:07:44.320 directed towards support myself initiative and so that's why i call it kind of a pioneering

00:07:50.160 contract okay well that all seems logical it follows from what you've already been saying

00:07:55.760 But I mean, it's just a, I guess it's an idea right now.

00:07:59.300 So I'd like some examples, like some actual.

00:08:03.500 Well, a couple of examples, I guess, is the first one is the oil and gas industry.

00:08:08.560 So there's a lot of people that say that if oil and gas was found in Ontario, Quebec,

00:08:13.760 anywhere in there, there would be three primary oil and gas companies.

00:08:18.000 They'd all be owned by some big families in Eastern Canada,

00:08:22.100 and there would be no entrepreneurship.

00:08:24.100 What happened in Alberta was that the provincial government in this social contract where we

00:08:30.340 support self-initiative, it figured out how to make sure that the information was all

00:08:36.420 disseminated out to all these junior oil and gas companies. So they all had basically the

00:08:41.700 same information. There was no competitiveness between it. There was all kinds of collaboration

00:08:46.900 and it created a huge junior oil industry that would have never appeared in central Canada if

00:08:54.200 they had that resource. And then, of course, from a collaborative perspective, when it came to

00:08:59.880 developing the oil sands, it was very much a private sector, private initiative, provincial

00:09:06.320 government efforts that brought that about. So that's one of the biggest ones. And then

00:09:12.840 And on the other side of it, you know, we talked about Big Brother Confederation, and that's the way the government has viewed its own people, too, in the East.

00:09:24.420 The Big Brother concept of we'll take care of you, whether it's Big Brother Ontario in Quebec or it's Big Brother in the Maritimes, there is a real sense of Big Brother government.

00:09:36.280 And that's because federal government is closer.

00:09:39.340 It's always had more of an impact.

00:09:40.940 In Ontario, for example, people speak of Ontario and Canada interchangeably, and it's actually quite funny because often they will say Canada when they mean Ontario, and it's a very, very different attitude towards the national government in Ontario than it is in Alberta.

00:10:01.200 In Alberta, we view the federal government as something that's distant and something

00:10:06.900 that tries to do damage to us, whereas in Ontario, they view the Ontario government

00:10:13.960 and the Ottawa government as one and the same.

00:10:16.960 Okay.

00:10:17.960 Well, Canada is a big country and each province is sort of a distinct entity, so what you're

00:10:27.740 saying is there's two of these contracts but there must be a permutation combination like I

00:10:34.220 you know is Quebec similarly big brother to Ontario or is there a difference in in how they're

00:10:40.940 how they all relate to this sort of nanny state so I would say there's sort of a couple of unique

00:10:49.180 sub social contracts underneath each one of the the primary ones so under the nanny state

00:10:57.580 there is Quebec has a slightly different social contract and actually maybe not slightly different,

00:11:05.820 significantly different, but it's still under the concept of the nanny state. And the

00:11:12.940 Indigenous communities there are slightly different than the mainstream community.

00:11:20.700 In Western Canada, British Columbia is very different.

00:11:24.760 And again, Indigenous communities have their own history and circumstances that have made it slightly different too. 0.99

00:11:32.060 So there's the four. 0.63

00:11:33.420 Okay.

00:11:34.280 So first of all, I guess, let's talk about Quebec.

00:11:36.700 Yeah.

00:11:39.100 So French Quebec, Battle of the Plains of Abraham, was 1759.

00:11:46.700 And the British very quickly said, if you maintain your loyalty to the British crown, we will give you your religion and your ability to have a unique culture and linguistic rights immediately.

00:12:02.440 And the leadership in the French community, which was notably the church at this point in time, said, well, we will promise you 200 years of loyalty.

00:12:12.620 Fast forward, 1959, so exactly 200 years later, is the start of the Quiet Revolution.

00:12:18.920 When Quebec says, well, we've done our loyalty, we did what we said we were going to do,

00:12:23.380 which is kind of impressive, actually.

00:12:25.180 But they decided, well, now we've got to go on our own.

00:12:27.820 We can no longer just maintain our loyalty.

00:12:30.480 And so the Quiet Revolution started.

00:12:33.320 And to understand the circumstances in French Quebec,

00:12:38.600 The French people were, they got to be the lawyers, they got to be the priests, they got to be the

00:12:45.320 professors, they got to be all the social stuff, and that's what they did. And of course, they were

00:12:53.080 the workers. The Scottish predominantly were the businessmen, they ran the economics of the

00:12:59.640 community, they were the ones that had the factories and all that stuff. And so that's the

00:13:04.440 view that French Quebec saw of the world. And of course, what happened in Thetford Mines,

00:13:11.400 it was the first time that French Canada stood up and they used a union setting

00:13:17.800 to basically say no to the Scottish bosses. And so they had a situation where from their

00:13:24.440 perspective, the English elite took all the rewards and the French workers took the crumbs.

00:13:32.680 And then what happened was, of course, this created a lot of social ill will and it kind of muddled the social contract.

00:13:43.360 And then, of course, the referendum in 1980.

00:13:46.220 and after the defeat of the referendum what happened was both the feds and the

00:13:55.640 province went into a bidding war effectively for the loyalty of the French Canadian community

00:14:03.040 and the English Canada sorry I shouldn't say English Canada but Ottawa Ottawa used two things

00:14:11.620 they used economic transfers and they used jobs in order to get the loyalty of French Canada.

00:14:21.860 And what they did was they created all these transfers and they were substantially funded

00:14:27.940 in those years by Ontario because the Ontario economy was very strong. But they also

00:14:36.100 transferred much of, they started requiring bilingualism. So that transferred a lot of

00:14:42.380 the bureaucracy to people that had to be bilingual. That's not just French. It had to be Quebec

00:14:48.780 French that people understood. And so that created a lot of employment. So they tried to

00:14:54.020 increase the loyalty of the French Quebec population to the federal government by giving

00:15:01.920 them money and giving them in giving them jobs. I don't know how well that's worked.

00:15:08.640 That's a good question. Well they're still in part they're still in the in the country so

00:15:13.840 it has had some some success. On the flip side what Quebec did was it didn't have the finances

00:15:20.960 to attract them with money and so what they did was they offered social programs. They offered

00:15:28.320 hurting the English and pushing them out of the province, which actually sent a lot of entrepreneurs

00:15:33.120 out of the province. They, you know, pushed the linguistic restrictions more and more.

00:15:38.960 I mean, they eventually got into religious requirements,

00:15:45.520 display of religious beliefs, you know, that got restricted. So the Quebec government did a lot of

00:15:51.200 social stuff, which actually hurt the economy. Because when you push entrepreneurs out of your

00:15:58.160 economy because they don't speak the language that you're looking for um that hurts investment

00:16:03.840 and hurts the economy now my family actually left quebec when that happened yeah yeah we all the

00:16:10.240 businesses left and so went to toronto so we went to toronto i've heard that this was the largest

00:16:16.720 peacetime exodus of people over 500 000 people left quebec and you know it was the it was the

00:16:23.840 entrepreneurial class and the problem was that because French Canada didn't have the entrepreneurial

00:16:32.720 background that you know it wasn't father and son passing it to you know father passing it to their

00:16:37.760 sons and daughters to be entrepreneurs there wasn't that history and so it really hurt the

00:16:45.840 economics the other piece of it was because of the concept that French Quebec were the

00:16:53.360 workers, they also promoted very strong union contracts. So we built a hotel in Quebec. And

00:17:03.440 when I arrived there to start building the hotel, I was told that I had three unions that I could

00:17:09.200 employ. There had to be a union and it was a requirement and I had three options. I could

00:17:15.440 use the militant, and this is the way it was put to me. I could use the militant union or the very

00:17:21.120 militant union or the extremely militant union those are my three choices

00:17:28.400 which did you choose actually the least okay okay and we got through it was no problem and

00:17:33.440 everybody was great but do you have to did you have to deal with unions in every other province

00:17:37.440 were you in any other province no okay no there's no there's no union requirement in any other

00:17:44.160 province but there is in Quebec and you know that as evidenced by what happens in other provinces

00:17:50.160 that hurts the economy. If you restrict what an entrepreneur can do, it restricts the desire to

00:17:58.560 invest. Simple. Understood. But the most important thing is that as Quebec hurt its economics by

00:18:08.740 figuring out their social contract and having this competition, Ontario lost a funding friend,

00:18:15.420 if you will. Because Ontario and Quebec were the big brothers of Confederation

00:18:20.380 and suddenly Quebec couldn't afford to do it anymore. And so it was left to Ontario.

00:18:24.780 So Ontario was left holding the bag?

00:18:28.620 Effectively, yes.

00:18:30.620 To sort of fund Confederation or the rest of the country or be the nanny? 0.82

00:18:36.700 Well, exactly, to be the nanny. And as we talked about in a previous episode, 0.61

00:18:41.020 to be that big brother that takes care of the little brother. So it picked up the reparation

00:18:46.380 costs of paying for the Maritimes, which came from right from after Confederation. Now it also

00:18:54.220 helped Alberta as we talked about where it bought oil at a bit of a premium. And so it helped us

00:19:00.540 too, but it was a big brother. I guess the other thing to talk about is the Indigenous communities.

00:19:08.060 and they're slightly different as I understand it from my friends in the community and the east has

00:19:17.320 a different perspective but I honestly don't know what that is and so I'm going to just talk about

00:19:21.660 the west and so the history of the west and it's there's a book that I recommend to everyone and I

00:19:30.460 think should be part of a required reading for every student in Alberta it's called the law

00:19:36.540 marches west. It's by a guy named Cecil Denny. It's a first person view of when the Northwest

00:19:44.380 Mountain Police came to Southern Alberta. It's a great book. It's published in 1929 and it's from

00:19:51.100 the 1870s that he's telling this experience. And he tells the story that the Indigenous were doing

00:19:57.580 great. There was lots of buffalo and all that stuff. And then they signed the treaties and then

00:20:02.060 the federal government put in the railroads to get the pioneers to come to Western Canada.

00:20:09.340 That's all great, but there was a little tiny mistake. And the mistake was that they built the

00:20:14.460 railroads to Eastern standards. And Eastern standards are that you can let the grass grow

00:20:19.660 right up to the train track because the grass is wet and it's not a problem. In Western Canada,

00:20:25.500 particularly in our palace or triangle here letting the grass grow up to the railroad

00:20:32.300 the rail line itself is a major problem because that grass is dry and so it started all these

00:20:38.220 fires and of course you have a prairie fire goes up like a flash and what it did was it chased all

00:20:45.740 the buffalo south and so the buffalo went went south and of course the americans killed them all

00:20:52.620 so they never came back. And what that meant was starvation for the Indigenous. So suddenly,

00:21:00.300 their food supply was gone and the cornerstone of their culture was gone.

00:21:05.500 Inadvertently, but that's what happened. And so the federal government, to its credit,

00:21:10.140 and this is start of the nanny state, the federal government stepped up and gave food stamps to all 0.97

00:21:15.900 the Indigenous. And Cecil Denny tells a story that some bureaucrat in Ottawa decided that he

00:21:23.980 was going to cut the food stamps in half. And so Cecil Denny reaches out to the minister in charge

00:21:30.440 and says, if you do this, there will be an insurrection on the prairies and it will be

00:21:35.640 disastrous. And to his credit, and this is confederation working well, the minister said,

00:21:43.320 you're there you understand the situation we're going to do what you tell us to so they increased

00:21:50.160 it and that's a sense of pride about this you know he said we'll increase it the stamps we'll

00:21:57.900 increase the food supply they did that and the indigenous were saved everybody everybody got

00:22:04.060 through it it was it was fine and to me that's confederation working well but what it did was

00:22:10.260 it created a little bit of this nanny state thing that was never there before

00:22:15.600 for the Indigenous in the West, but it created that nanny state

00:22:19.500 and it just kind of blossomed because that's what Ottawa knows.

00:22:22.860 So they've kind of gotten into that culture inadvertently,

00:22:26.200 even though that wasn't their culture in any sense originally.

00:22:31.200 But now they've come to depend on it.

00:22:32.900 But that's where it started.

00:22:35.060 Seems like you got a little choked up about that.

00:22:38.320 I mean, and not that there's any, there's nothing wrong with that.

00:22:40.980 And I'm curious though, what particularly hits you about that situation?

00:22:44.940 Well, you know, a couple of things.

00:22:46.860 First of all, you know, I'm, I think of myself as being very pro-Indigenous

00:22:52.240 because I, you know, I grew up with a lot of guys from the Pekinney

00:22:55.660 and from the blood bands in Southern Alberta.

00:22:58.660 And, and so, you know, I am proud of their history.

00:23:03.580 And I'm proud that, you know, instead of having the history, it's hard, actually, I'm sorry.

00:23:12.400 Well, you know, I mean, it's sort of, it's a really nice thing to see how touched you are by,

00:23:18.300 you know, something working well in Confederation and by being a support for people that obviously

00:23:23.880 you grew up with and were really close to.

00:23:25.600 This is people doing the right thing and, you know, rising to the occasion.

00:23:30.560 And that makes me very proud.

00:23:32.700 Yeah. Well, it would be nice to see a lot more of that. I know I'm pretty tired of the divisiveness

00:23:36.780 and polarization in our country. And I know that a big part of this project is to try to bring

00:23:41.420 people together. So thank you for that, Randy. Well, you know, we don't celebrate our successes.

00:23:49.500 We don't celebrate how good we have been in the past. And there's lots of examples. Reading this

00:23:55.260 book, it's quite remarkable. Another story that comes out of this book that has nothing to do

00:24:00.860 with this subject. Sitting Bull went to Crowfoot and said, we are going to do a genocide

00:24:06.060 against all the whites because we want to get rid of them. And we want you to join in our 1.00

00:24:12.220 genocide war. And Crowfoot, instead of joining, he went to Denny and said, well, we kind of like

00:24:20.620 you guys. You know, you got rid of the whiskey and gun traders. You've treated us fairly. You've

00:24:26.300 always done what you said you would do. But Crowfoot wants us to join in this war. And we're

00:24:32.640 a little concerned that if we don't join, he's going to come and attack us. And we want to know

00:24:38.160 that you're on our side. And then he said, and he ran it up the flagpole and confirmed it. He said,

00:24:43.960 they come across that 49th parallel, we will be here to support you. And that to me was the

00:24:51.260 collaboration of treaty. Yeah. It's nice to think that there were times where we were really

00:24:56.220 collaborative and working together and i know how hard it must have been well i can only imagine how

00:25:00.700 hard it must have been to try to make a life on the prairies and in alberta in those days so people

00:25:05.100 really did have to come together and it would be really nice to see that happen again that's the

00:25:10.860 dream that is the dream okay um so back to the nanny state though to sort of shift gears on you

00:25:18.540 but get back on topic so if we may let's go back to bc for a second and we'll come back to your

00:25:23.340 question that BC was a British colony, but is incredibly far away from Ottawa. And so when

00:25:30.620 Amorto Cosmos brought them into Confederation, started the history of sort of wacky politics

00:25:36.620 in British Columbia, the distance was that made them isolated. And so they couldn't have a nanny

00:25:43.180 state directly with the federal government. And so they're sort of an isolationist relationship.

00:25:49.980 And, you know, Ottawa was this vast forest and then the vast prairies, and then they had the Rocky Mountains to go over.

00:25:57.080 So they were just so distant, so they became very independent than that.

00:26:00.380 So B.C. is just a variation of the pioneer social contract.

00:26:06.680 So, sorry, let's go back to your question.

00:26:09.240 Okay, great.

00:26:09.800 So my question is, with all these social contract variations,

00:26:13.040 Is it possible that we resolve this as a country and that we reclaim one social contract, whether it's, you know, because the social contract to me, the way you're talking about it, it's not overt.

00:26:25.780 We don't talk about it and negotiate it.

00:26:28.680 And, you know, I don't even think in the Constitution we say like this is that kind of an intention.

00:26:33.940 But what would it take to recreate that social contract and have it be unified across the country?

00:26:41.580 social contract is a little like programming you know you don't really know what's there

00:26:46.380 but it affects every decision every day and politicians can't impact the social contract

00:26:53.420 they are subject to it only the people can change the social contract so that's why this thing that

00:27:00.060 we're doing is so important that we're saying this is what the people need to do and the people need

00:27:05.580 to adjust the social contract and what we have to do is we gotta let's go down to the lowest common

00:27:10.140 denominator. And that is that everyone needs to respect the self-sovereignty across the country.

00:27:19.020 That's our lowest common denominator. And then if places down east choose to use their sovereignty

00:27:26.700 to have a different relationship with their local government, then they can do that.

00:27:31.340 But at a national level, the only way that we can have a ubiquitous social contract is that if we

00:27:38.460 say and i've written it down here support the self-sovereignty and self-initiative of all

00:27:44.540 for the best life of their choosing that's what i would propose as a social contract for all of

00:27:50.780 canada and then locally if you want to do something different if you want to surrender that you can do

00:27:56.700 that but your local government has to pay for the consequences of that and so other parts of other

00:28:05.500 regions don't support your nanny state in your area sounds like you're talking about localism

00:28:13.420 sounds like you're talking about like more localism or more ability to make different

00:28:17.660 local decisions than another locale sounds like you're also talking about the measure being

00:28:23.500 financially connected like there's an economic uh consequence to to those sorts of decisions

00:28:30.940 of course there's they're always you know everything you do has an economic consequence

00:28:34.620 as I talked about in Quebec, where Bastion Quebec made choices that were about social programs,

00:28:42.000 linguistic and all that stuff. Those things have negative impacts on the economics, which is fine.

00:28:47.600 And as long as they bear those negative consequences, God bless them. That's their

00:28:52.160 choice. We should support that. But we shouldn't subsidize it. And so this concept of bidding for

00:29:00.480 the loyalty of Quebec. We just have to get rid of that. And perhaps, perhaps we can have a better

00:29:07.460 nation for it. Well, I look forward to our next episode. Thanks, Randy. Thank you very much.

00:29:12.660 People need purpose. It is core to our existence as much as food, shelter, and friends and family.

00:29:19.120 For many in the West, a core purpose is to enhance national prosperity by individual endeavor.

00:29:25.640 The nanny state creates dependency, bureaucratic stagnation, and the loss of personal opportunity.

00:29:31.880 After 10 lost years and a buildup of strangling inertia, we need execution.

00:29:37.360 No longer is it just to prosper, but to survive as our national autonomy is threatened through economic coercion.

00:29:44.560 We will take a look at Canada's economic record and trajectory, where we are at, how we got there, and what we have to do.

00:29:51.940 It's a story that will have you on the edge of your seat.

00:29:54.180 Tune in next time to A Nation of People.

Western Standard - August 22, 2026

NATION OF PEOPLE ｜ Why Does the West Keep Paying for the East？

Episode Stats

Transcript