Western Standard - THE PIPELINE： Did David Eby call the election too soon？

00:00:00.000 good evening my name is Cory Morgan I'm a senior columnist with the Western Standard

00:00:28.440 and you're watching the pipeline i'm sitting in for our publisher derek phildebrand who is

00:00:33.720 indisposed today and can't make it so you'll have to look at my pretty face for the duration of this

00:00:38.280 but don't worry it's not just mine i have three other wise souls here with me i'll start right in

00:00:43.800 the studio with nigel hannaford another senior columnist in the house feels good to be a senior

00:00:49.800 columnist doesn't it sorry yeah junior i don't know i remember i was a junior surveyor and then

00:00:54.840 then I moved up to senior surveyor and I realized that was a whole hell of a lot more work and I

00:00:58.140 missed being a junior actually but what can you do and our news editor Dave Naylor well I turned

00:01:03.920 60 last month so I guess I am a senior we're getting there yeah getting there get cheaper

00:01:08.240 haircuts and get a pension now oh there you go so much to look forward to and uh dad and death

00:01:13.780 some youth to the mix and everything we have our overworked and beleaguered reporter in British

00:01:19.000 colombia the land of the insane alex zolton how's it going out there oh it's insane yep

00:01:27.000 i see it looks like you're hunkered in a bunker there uh you're fearful of the uh 0.95

00:01:31.400 the crazed politicos coming after you as you keep breaking things before they can get on them 0.95

00:01:37.080 yeah hiding from both sides of the political spectrum because they're both insane well if

00:01:42.280 they're both after you it means you must be doing things right so we'll get right into that since

00:01:47.000 who got you there and you do have so much to do uh last week an election wasn't in the cards but

00:01:53.720 the conservative party was busy cutting itself to shreds there's been a few developments since then

00:01:59.000 maybe bring us a little up to date what's what the hell happened sure do you want to um do you want

00:02:04.680 me to discuss how they shred themselves to pieces first or do you want me to talk about the election

00:02:09.720 uh we'll talk about the election we've been talking about them shredding for quite some

00:02:12.280 time. So the election's been kind of a new development. Yeah. So because the election is

00:02:17.780 fairly new, I'll offer a bit of a 10,000 foot perspective on how provincial elections in BC

00:02:23.660 work, generally speaking. So in BC, there tends to be three groups of voters. Broadly speaking,

00:02:30.720 there's no information voters, low information voters, and high information voters.

00:02:35.640 So low information voters are, well, let's start with no information voters. They're the smallest

00:02:40.840 group because I'm sure, as is easy to imagine, no information voters typically don't vote.

00:02:46.280 But those who do typically vote just based off of their vague perceptions of what the political

00:02:52.300 party's names stand for. Low information voters are another group that I would generally describe

00:02:58.480 as a community group voter. So these are union members who will vote based off of what their

00:03:03.960 union tells them to do or ethnic voting blocs that vote based off of what their community leaders

00:03:08.860 tell them what to do. And then there's high information voters, which is the smallest group,

00:03:14.040 but they're the most influential. So these people are academics, politicians themselves, reporters,

00:03:20.420 journalists, and public sector employees who have a pretty good line of sight on the competency of

00:03:26.040 the government because they work in the government. So the BC NDP traditionally has been very,

00:03:31.800 very successful because they've been able to court and curry favor with all three of these groups.

00:03:36.960 this time around it's looking like that might not be as easy to pull off and i can kind of go into

00:03:44.500 why if you'd like uh well we'll go into a little more of that as we go okay so and just so people

00:03:49.980 know it was suddenly called by david eby uh two years early it is typically a fixed date but

00:03:55.260 saturday elections bc holds i think that's actually not a bad idea in my view uh but boy this

00:04:01.060 and we'll get into more of that with alex as well uh nigel is not everybody i mean this was clearly

00:04:06.300 an opportunistic election call i mean this was for the sake of because of disarray on the opposition

00:04:11.740 side he thought well let's just snap this open two years early and get it done while we can but

00:04:17.260 how do you think that that might not turn out as well as he hopes well it's so transparently cynical

00:04:22.060 that even low information voters are likely to see through that one without needing to have it

00:04:27.420 explained to them everybody thought that having fixed election dates legislated was a good idea

00:04:34.380 because it lent some predictability to things.

00:04:37.940 And then we were warned at the time,

00:04:41.080 because I was there when they did this,

00:04:43.040 and I said, well, don't forget,

00:04:44.540 it's only there by legislation.

00:04:46.960 They can just as easily legislate it away again.

00:04:50.960 And everybody said, well, it's worth a try.

00:04:52.460 Well, here we are.

00:04:53.580 They've legislated it away, you know,

00:04:55.960 and broken their own rules,

00:04:59.220 if you want to put it that way.

00:05:00.880 And people were saying, you know,

00:05:01.880 it's kind of expensive to have an election, 1.00

00:05:03.480 and you guys are fools anyway. 0.99

00:05:07.140 Here's where I think they may run into problems 1.00

00:05:10.240 that they have not imagined.

00:05:12.920 A lot of people are very concerned

00:05:15.240 about the court decision last year

00:05:17.620 involving big areas of Richmond,

00:05:20.280 which were claimed by an indigenous band.

00:05:24.420 The court agreed with them,

00:05:26.700 and so now you have this aboriginal title

00:05:29.240 as an overlay to your fee simple property ownership.

00:05:33.480 In the particular affected area, as of last week, there hadn't been a house sold in that area.

00:05:40.320 People were too scared to buy them.

00:05:44.560 And the thought is that if they can do it in Richmond, they can do it anywhere in the unceded part of British Columbia.

00:05:51.640 That wouldn't be the case in the part up north, which is covered by a treaty, but anywhere else in B.C., you know, your home is not necessarily your council.

00:06:01.100 you could find that you have an aboriginal title slid in over the top

00:06:05.800 and your property values go to hell

00:06:08.820 and your liquidity, the ability to borrow against your house,

00:06:13.620 all kinds of things could go wrong.

00:06:15.540 And I suspect that that issue will come back to bite Mr. Eby

00:06:21.140 because he has actually been quietly supportive of what the court has been doing.

00:06:26.260 I think David Eby will rue the day that he called the election.

00:06:29.280 Yep. I think the people of British Columbia, he somehow is okay doing in the polls despite the horrific work of his government, but I think there's going to be enough. Enough is enough, voters are going to say, and I don't see him getting another majority.

00:06:47.980 I mean, I sit to be corrected, but it is one of the most callous things I've ever seen in politics.

00:06:54.820 Well, he always looks like a man who rues the day he even gets out of bed.

00:06:57.600 He's the most sour-looking politician I've ever seen.

00:07:01.320 I guess depressed just before I can even start watching him up there.

00:07:04.280 No, I will give him credit.

00:07:05.520 He had a press conference today in Surrey, and he smiled.

00:07:09.440 Oh, well, they must have injected him.

00:07:11.880 Must have injected him with something.

00:07:13.340 Somebody tickling him or something.

00:07:14.720 Well, it's going to be quite a grind of closer to five weeks, I guess, this campaign.

00:07:20.100 So getting back to you, Alex, and the Conservatives.

00:07:23.860 I mean, the NDP are vulnerable.

00:07:27.300 I mean, Rustad took a party that was slapped together exceedingly quickly and came within a hair's breadth of unseating the incumbent NDP in the last election.

00:07:36.240 So it's not beyond conceiving that the Conservatives can throw it all together and come up with a winning vote in five weeks.

00:07:44.820 You were saying that this has actually sort of unified a lot of them.

00:07:49.000 Well, absolutely.

00:07:49.920 And then the other really strange thing that happened is all of this chaos and infighting amongst the B.C. conservatives led to the rise of Lorne Dirksen as the party leader.

00:07:58.520 And Lorne Dirksen is not the mega regional manager that David Eby was preparing for battle with.

00:08:03.060 He's a moderate centrist and very well liked on both sides of the House and respected.

00:08:08.600 The B.C. NDP MLAs that I've spoken to even say that they have quite a high regard for Lorne Dirksen.

00:08:14.180 And so that's going to be a really tricky thing for David Eby to run against him as a Trump adjacent when that simply doesn't align with the facts.

00:08:24.180 Alex, what's the status of Finley?

00:08:27.700 Finley has been exiled from the party, along with her husband.

00:08:30.980 So they were told on Monday in a caucus meeting that neither were allowed to run for the party in the upcoming election.

00:08:37.220 Brent Chapman responded by saying that he was moving to 1BC and Finley's status remains unconfirmed at this time.

00:08:44.180 And then there's other variables bouncing around out there, Dallas Brody, for example, as well as at what Center BC is another one that's on the go. I mean, a lot of people came home to the Conservative Party, I guess you could say, but it doesn't mean that those other parties have stopped existing. Like they could still have an impact here.

00:09:02.120 Yeah, I mean, certainly 1BC could have an impact on the right. I question how big of an impact they could have simply based off of the number of candidates that they're set to run.

00:09:14.180 Even with the addition of Brent Chapman, I think they only have maybe five or six candidates that I can imagine being on the ballots throughout the 93 ridings in B.C.

00:09:25.520 Center B.C. is an interesting factor in this election in the sense that I think that they present a bigger vote split on the left than they do on the right.

00:09:34.720 They're really more of a leftist party disguised as a centrist party.

00:09:40.260 And if you add in the factor of the B.C. Greens, who have a fairly formidable party leader in Emily Lohan, I think that the NDP are in serious trouble here.

00:09:49.400 I think they made a giant mistake.

00:09:51.700 Well, it looks like maybe, I mean, they tried for a big tent.

00:09:54.860 I mean, that's the issue conservatives have.

00:09:56.600 When you try to do this, the only winning formula you can get, you're bringing people.

00:09:59.840 Because that conservative party had some people pretty far over on the spectrum on either side.

00:10:03.580 And unfortunately, the tent started ripping apart.

00:10:07.000 AB's kind of sewed it together for the moment on their behalf.

00:10:09.640 But do you, I mean, Dave, do you think this can, can hold for five weeks?

00:10:12.280 Can they keep it together?

00:10:13.400 It's a long campaign and it's, uh, uh, you know, he's running on the exact same

00:10:18.520 thing that, uh, Mark Carney did, you know, the elbows up to, to Donald Trump.

00:10:22.920 And it was successful for Carney remains to be seen, uh, by Eby.

00:10:27.880 Um, I don't think he's got the, uh, certainly the charisma that Mark Carney, uh, possesses,

00:10:33.560 but, uh, five weeks is a long time.

00:10:35.800 And as they say, uh, day in politics, anything can happen.

00:10:38.520 I'm just playing with the fact that you attributed charisma to Mark Carney.

00:10:43.640 Well, compared to David Eby, he looks very lively.

00:10:46.920 Well, yes, he does, but that's—now, the NDP are so bad and have done such damage

00:10:56.480 in B.C. that if there is even a glimmer of a hope on the other side, my sense is the

00:11:02.520 people will rally to it.

00:11:05.740 The difficulties in the Conservative Party, if I read or report it correctly, were just

00:11:12.180 about entirely personal.

00:11:14.740 And therefore, with that personal issue out of the way, for heaven's sake, can they please

00:11:22.260 get along for five weeks?

00:11:24.180 Long enough to, you know, principles are wonderful, and we've got a few of them ourselves, but

00:11:28.740 heavens above, one principle that should be foremost is getting rid of that NDP government.

00:11:35.180 which has failed in so many ways.

00:11:37.480 And Alex, you've had some heavyweights from the NDP announced in the last 24 hours they're not running again.

00:11:43.780 Yeah, so this is another indication that the NDP are maybe not in as strong a position as they thought they would be upon the writ drop.

00:11:50.540 So four senior cabinet ministers have resigned overall.

00:11:53.920 They're saying they're not running for re-election since Monday.

00:11:57.140 That would include Lana Poppins, who was the agricultural minister.

00:12:00.760 Ravi Kalon, he was the health minister.

00:12:02.820 he was largely considered the best candidate to replace David Eby when it looked like he was dead

00:12:08.260 in the water five months ago. And then two more, Brenda Bailey, the finance minister. And another

00:12:13.700 one that escapes me right now, you have to understand there's all a bunch of moving pieces,

00:12:17.220 so it's sometimes hard to keep track of. The finance minister that rang up a $13

00:12:22.580 billion deficit. Yeah, I mean, she was already stepping down from the finance minister role

00:12:28.100 um due to um she had cancer so she was receiving medical um stuff so yeah that one doesn't seem

00:12:36.420 terribly surprising to me the ravi calon one was very shocking um people on the ndp side told me

00:12:42.280 that even they didn't anticipate that happening so alex can i just ask you apart from donald trump

00:12:48.260 what are the big issues for british columbians well that's the thing right is that the bc ndp

00:12:54.080 don't really have anything to run on in terms of their own record specifically when it comes to

00:12:59.440 industries like the forestry industry he's trying to blame all of the woes of that industry on

00:13:04.240 donald trump in order to capture that low information voter block that i was just referring

00:13:08.400 to and people who are in the forestry industry and who belong to unions related to that industry

00:13:14.000 know that the industry has been struggling long before donald trump came along for a whole bunch

00:13:18.480 of different reasons and so it's going to be very very difficult for him to convince those

00:13:22.880 individuals, as well as individuals who, you know, are struggling with lack of access to health care

00:13:28.240 or declining learning outcomes for their kids. And the most baffling thing about British Columbia

00:13:34.560 is that we have one of the largest downloads of any subnational economy in the world,

00:13:38.460 and we have some of the worst services. So even the no information voter who just votes based

00:13:43.900 off of their perception of the political party on the ballot, along with the question of are

00:13:47.860 things around me getting better, even they're going to have a hard time believing that Donald

00:13:51.660 Trump is responsible for, you know, their neighbor's house burning down or the emergency

00:13:55.340 room not being open. So, I mean, this must have caught a lot of NDP MLA's flat footed. I could

00:14:02.200 see where that's a bit of disarray. They thought they had two more years. I don't know how much

00:14:05.220 constituency work they've been doing to be prepared for a general election all of a sudden. And they

00:14:10.160 can't necessarily be thrilled with this. As you said, some perhaps are just saying, you know what,

00:14:13.980 I'm getting out now, but I'm also wondering. I was just going to add, yeah, on that note,

00:14:19.520 in terms of the operations and the mechanism of the election itself, a lot of the high

00:14:23.680 information voters, particularly public sector employees, which have always been the NDP's

00:14:28.940 strongest voting bloc, they are pissed because they asked him not to run this election back to

00:14:34.960 back with the civic election. It strains all of the resources. It's a giant waste of money.

00:14:39.540 There's no justification for Evie calling the election, canceling the Abbotsford Mission 0.86

00:14:43.460 by-election, which was already in progress. That cost taxpayers a million dollars.

00:14:47.020 and so nobody is happy with the BC NDP in their decision to do this and so he has alienated

00:14:53.380 virtually everybody in all three of those blocks it's it's a disaster frankly for him yeah well

00:14:59.740 and then the voters on the ground I mean I know it's hard to predict but we saw things like

00:15:03.460 in in Calgary Shaw there was an upset my hypothesis has been that quite often conservatives get upset

00:15:08.960 they might not vote for the other party but they'll stay home and I I could see it with a lot

00:15:14.040 of, I mean, just again, as Nigel put it, you know, the cynicism of this whole exercise

00:15:17.880 has really got to have soured a lot of people. They might not be able to hold their nose and

00:15:22.160 vote conservative, but I suspect the NDP are going to have a hard time getting their base

00:15:25.560 out in this one as well. Yeah. And then you've got this really

00:15:28.920 strange influencer factor as well. So there's a whole bunch of folks who have a very wide reach

00:15:33.840 online who are quite upset about, and understandably so, about Finley being

00:15:38.680 kicked out as leader, given that she was the leader chosen by the membership.

00:15:43.240 And so they're making a rallying call, as I understand it, for people to move over to

00:15:47.340 1BC on the perception that the Conservative Party of BC is not conservative enough.

00:15:52.960 Unwittingly, I think that that's actually going to be an optics win for the BC Conservatives

00:15:57.440 in a province where the biggest criticism against the Conservatives is often that they're

00:16:01.240 too far right.

00:16:02.440 People here are very progressive, they're very centrist, and so if they hear loud voices

00:16:06.280 saying that the Conservatives aren't conservative enough, that may actually convince some of

00:16:10.880 these moderate centrists to vote for them.

00:16:14.380 Well, it's going to be quite a race to watch.

00:16:16.740 We're just in the first couple of days of it.

00:16:18.400 I hope you've restocked on your bulk Red Bulls there.

00:16:21.840 I'm going to keep up with it.

00:16:22.940 We're going to be looking forward to a lot more updates.

00:16:25.080 How do you?

00:16:25.720 Maybe before we let you go, because I know you've got a lot to do, what are a few things

00:16:29.440 we've got to look forward to?

00:16:30.360 What are you working on right now?

00:16:31.760 And what are some more things you might want to leave people with?

00:16:34.540 Well, speaking of energy drinks, Jackson Loy, our colleague at the Western Standard,

00:16:37.920 came up with a great idea.

00:16:38.980 he said I should apply for a sponsorship with the West Coast energy drink brand. So

00:16:43.380 I sent a request to Beaver Buzz. So I'm hoping they get back to me. Maybe I can earn a bit of

00:16:48.900 a side gig there. All right. Well, it's a great name. Well, I could read a few things into that

00:16:56.020 name actually, but I'll spare the audience. All right. Well, thanks a lot for joining us today.

00:17:05.380 And then for all that constant content you've been putting out out in BC, you're going to have your work cut out for you.

00:17:10.340 And we look forward to talking to you again soon.

00:17:12.340 I'm sure there's going to be a lot of updates to come.

00:17:14.300 Oh, well, thank you for having me.

00:17:15.260 I'm a big poly nerd, so this is a dream job and I'm having a great time with it, believe it or not.

00:17:20.520 Right on.

00:17:21.100 I'm glad you're enjoying it.

00:17:22.520 We are enjoying reading what you're coming up with.

00:17:24.560 So I'll let you go and I'm just going to remind the viewers, we've got an opportunity right now.

00:17:29.160 The paywall is down.

00:17:30.100 you can read alex's stuff my stuff everybody's stuff uh without reaching into your pocket for

00:17:35.700 it so i really encourage bc viewers and alberta viewers who are interested this is the time get

00:17:39.460 out of the western standard and watch what's going on because it is a harness nest let alex do all

00:17:43.140 the hard work and encapsulate it so you try and figure out what's going on over there all right 0.98

00:17:48.580 let's move on to uh the next nice easy one then let's talk about temporary migrants paying for 0.77

00:17:54.260 their own health care uh it's been on the ballot for a while but it made the news finally in the

00:17:58.900 in the referendum as premier smith sort of got a little more specific on what that might mean

00:18:03.620 you know cory i often wonder how these things even get to be controversial if you were to

00:18:10.420 leave us behind and go and take a job in another country and you didn't line up what you're going 1.00

00:18:15.300 to do about health care first everybody would say you're an idiot now you know people like us 1.00

00:18:21.140 well no they no they don't they've got other names but it's not idiot is seldom what i hear 1.00

00:18:26.900 but look i mean if you would go with a company or something like that they take care of your

00:18:31.220 healthcare needs for you but if you don't if you just hop in the border and showing up what is

00:18:39.060 the argument that just because you're there that you should receive health care at somebody else's

00:18:44.900 expense i don't think we expect that although obviously other people do and have been encouraged

00:18:51.300 to. But thank goodness that the premier is saying, well, not only is that fundamentally flawed at a

00:18:59.940 logical level, but also on a purely practical basis, if the federal government has lost control 0.97

00:19:05.540 of its own immigration system, and they're just shoveling newcomers with very few qualifications

00:19:11.520 and papers out into the countryside hoping that they'll find something somewhere, that's not 0.96

00:19:17.220 actually an obligation on the Alberta taxpayers, or for that matter, or the Saskatchewan taxpayers,

00:19:23.340 or the Ontario taxpayers, or anyone else. Obviously, we're not going to let somebody

00:19:29.380 bleed to death in the street. That's just not who we are. But the idea that somehow there should be

00:19:34.920 an expectation around the world, if you could just make it to Canada after that, they'll put

00:19:39.360 your kids in school, they'll pay for your health bills, they'll feed you if you destitute, find you

00:19:44.300 place to live, put you up in a decent hotel until they do. Why should the rest of the

00:19:48.460 world be able to take that for granted? So bless the government of Alberta for at least

00:19:56.300 saying, well, we're not completely heartless, but we are heartless enough to say that you

00:20:03.880 better be here with a good reason or an approved Alberta status.

00:20:09.800 I think it's not an unreasonable ask. And actually, I've got a parallel whiff. I worked

00:20:14.100 for a few years on an L-1 visa down in the United States.

00:20:16.800 And before I would cross that border, I purchased private

00:20:19.140 insurance in case something catastrophic should happen.

00:20:21.820 I mean, they wouldn't turn me away at a hospital if it did,

00:20:23.780 but I could find myself with a six-finger bill when I got

00:20:26.040 home if I didn't do such.

00:20:27.240 And I didn't think that was unreasonable for me going down.

00:20:29.480 I knew the rules heading in there.

00:20:31.840 They have insurance.

00:20:32.760 You're just going down for a weekend then.

00:20:34.340 Yes.

00:20:34.740 Yeah, we do now as we're getting a little older too, you

00:20:36.720 just never know what might happen.

00:20:38.280 But Canada is under a universal system, which I guess maybe

00:20:41.040 some people see it as a different obligation.

00:20:43.440 That kind of comes back to that feeling or I think some people feel that, David, like the second somebody sets foot in Canada, they're fully entitled to the same rights and entitlements.

00:20:55.920 It wasn't that long ago we were paying healthcare premiums.

00:20:58.460 Yeah.

00:20:59.000 Right.

00:20:59.520 So I don't think it's an unreasonable policy.

00:21:03.380 I question how it's going to be enforced. 1.00

00:21:06.660 You know, as Nigel said, a lot of these sort of, you know, people on visas, students, they come here, they have no training, they have no education. 0.99

00:21:15.540 How are they going to get a job? 1.00

00:21:16.540 How are they going to be able to afford $1,900 or $1,200 or whatever they charge?

00:21:21.940 That's something to clarify, too.

00:21:23.340 It's not like Premier Smith was saying, we're going to leave them all out uncovered and unable to get care or anything.

00:21:28.520 They're just saying, well, they're going to have to pay a premium out of pocket while they're here to offset some of those costs.

00:21:34.200 A 19-year-old may have zero impact on the health care budget.

00:21:40.200 A 75-year-old may be costing hundreds of thousands of dollars.

00:21:44.040 So it's hard to put a single figure on it.

00:21:47.620 Should the 75-year-old be paying way more than the 19-year-old?

00:21:52.040 I think it's one of the questions that's going to pass with a big majority.

00:21:56.440 And I hope it does.

00:21:57.560 And I don't mean to sound like I'm changing my opinion,

00:21:59.880 But I think we should acknowledge that the other side of this argument would be that and it's not got to do with kindness and mercy.

00:22:08.400 You're actually bringing people in, in some cases, who you want.

00:22:12.800 I mean, let's say you're taking a health care worker from a different part of the world.

00:22:17.620 Are you then going to say, well, we want you to go to work, but at the same time, we're not going to give you any health care benefits.

00:22:25.260 But that's where this idea of the Alberta approved status comes in.

00:22:28.940 that gives the provincial government a lot of leeway to decide who actually they do want and

00:22:35.180 who they don't. If you're basically coming in with nothing to offer, well, what are you doing here?

00:22:40.820 And that's what Smith wants. He wants Alberta to have control over immigration,

00:22:46.100 same way Quebec does. You know, we're not asking for anything that Quebec doesn't have already.

00:22:51.440 In Ontario and Manitoba, when it comes to education, it's still a similar concept,

00:22:55.520 don't fund a number of things in the public education system for temporary citizens that

00:23:01.360 are funded for regular citizens. But this kind of comes back to a lot of what seems to happen in

00:23:04.800 Canada too, though. When other provinces do it, they're exerting their provincial right. When

00:23:09.200 Alberta does these things, we're assholes. And that's some of the framing that's happening right 1.00

00:23:13.360 now. You know, those selfish Albertans, those nasty Albertans. Yeah, well, I mean, what people 1.00

00:23:17.040 use that argument will say that kids didn't choose their parents. And if their parents

00:23:21.840 turn out to be illegal aliens, you know, well, then we still got to look after the kids, don't 0.61

00:23:29.660 we? And I think, well, maybe, maybe actually we need to ship everybody back. And it's another 1.00

00:23:35.540 excuse for the, uh, the mainstream media talking heads down East to call Albertans racist.

00:23:40.640 Yeah. And I mean, it is this apply. I mean, predominantly the ones coming on temporary

00:23:44.700 visas are not white people. Fair enough. But we're talking about temporary migrants. It could be 1.00

00:23:49.860 anybody of any race it could be for somebody from sweden for all we know i think something that

00:23:53.700 needs a lot of clarification in this is as the opponents try to smear the the premier in the

00:23:57.860 province is that it's temporary we're not talking about the the people who came here through proper

00:24:02.660 channels who are looking to settle as permanent uh immigrants we're not talking about permanent

00:24:06.900 citizens who are here we're talking about people here on temporary visas assuming they came in on 0.76

00:24:12.340 those even you know the kind of people would make the argument that we should pay everything for 0.96

00:24:16.100 everybody whoever they are wherever they came from make no connection between the cost of doing that

00:24:22.420 and what they pay in taxes and it comes out of the public purse somebody is paying there is real money

00:24:30.820 who do you want to deploy it to when we have problems of our own so that's put me put me down

00:24:37.760 for uh for a tight fist but i do recognize that there are some there are some things you're going

00:24:44.460 to have to take care of as we tighten our fist.

00:24:47.700 Yeah.

00:24:47.840 Well, it's sort of a provincial way though, that we can get around to it.

00:24:50.140 I mean, it's a federal thing.

00:24:51.460 They decide how many immigrants are going to come in.

00:24:53.560 It's a federal authority, federal bureaucrats that you do your

00:24:56.520 applications through and everything.

00:24:57.960 The provinces can, you know, ask and lobby for as much as they can, but

00:25:02.960 there's not much they can do.

00:25:04.360 But something Premier Smith's doing is saying, well, we can't stop them, but

00:25:07.200 we don't have to make sure that the welcome mat is here or that the buffet

00:25:10.700 is all laid out.

00:25:12.200 This could lead to some of these temporary immigrants moving into other provinces.

00:25:15.640 Now, how is that going to, uh,

00:25:17.840 Well, there's new stats out today shows, uh, Alberta is growing at three times.

00:25:22.240 Uh, the rate is of the rest of the country.

00:25:24.440 So 600,000 people in five years.

00:25:27.860 Something like that.

00:25:28.680 Yeah, that's a crazy number.

00:25:30.040 At some point we're going to have to put up the no vacancy sign.

00:25:32.140 Yeah.

00:25:32.600 Yeah. 0.90

00:25:32.860 That's a lot of hospital beds and school places to find.

00:25:35.400 Yeah.

00:25:35.620 Well, and for some who are coming here, if they are, uh, you know, professionals

00:25:40.180 or if they've got good trades or so on,

00:25:41.860 paying a $1,600, $1,900 premium over the course of a year

00:25:45.620 isn't beyond their ability to do so.

00:25:48.660 Well, the thing is, Corey, if they're that well qualified,

00:25:50.940 they've probably got somebody already paying the bill for them.

00:25:53.860 Well, or again, or maybe they're looking to become permanent residents.

00:25:57.140 You take a contract with a major oil company coming from somewhere else,

00:26:01.280 and you say, well, what do I do if my kids get sick?

00:26:03.360 They say, oh, don't worry, we've got that covered. 1.00

00:26:04.880 Yeah, but if you're an immigrant from the Philippines 1.00

00:26:07.000 doing a housekeeping job or a, you know, a hospital orderly, that's a good chunk of change. 0.99

00:26:13.120 Sure. I mean, and that was something that was, because Smith was talking about often

00:26:16.840 companies will take these premiums and pay the bills. And that's what my, my favorite business

00:26:21.400 expert, Deborah Yedlin was complaining about, saying this would put an unnecessary expense 1.00

00:26:26.900 upon businesses. But again, if you're going to import temporary labor, you expect to pay some

00:26:32.580 Premier, so yeah, yeah.

00:26:35.820 I mean, that's one of the things that's kept the auto industry in Ontario

00:26:39.900 competitive because we have, you know, publicly funded healthcare.

00:26:44.140 Those workers use it in the United States, just a few miles over the river.

00:26:48.460 They're the, that's the cost of the companies.

00:26:50.900 So you bet that healthcare is a powerful, powerful gift.

00:26:56.340 So I just wonder, you know, Premier Smith's putting your neck out on this,

00:26:59.240 but I'm sure other premiers are kind of watching because we're not alone with

00:27:01.940 we're getting more immigrants into alberta than any other province but there's still there's 1.00

00:27:05.620 pressures on the system and there's issues with these diploma mills and some of that i mean that's 0.99

00:27:09.940 what people really the problem is about is the ones who are not really here to contribute make

00:27:14.980 a life and move forward they're often many who are taking advantage of the system but this could

00:27:19.860 start a domino effect for other provinces to say you know what she got away with it let's move on

00:27:24.340 to see our policies look if i was in some third world country and i had enough going for me that

00:27:29.140 i could at least get out and enroll in a diploma mill show up for one lesson and then go and get

00:27:35.460 a job at tim hortons and work and work and share a house with six other people and start to get

00:27:41.060 ahead yeah i'd probably do that too but at the same time the person who's doing that is um

00:27:49.140 taking a lot of a lot of things for granted in the host country what do you think well

00:27:53.780 as i said though you know the hospital wait times aren't getting any shorter

00:27:57.140 Yeah. Right. And that's just strictly because of the, uh, that so many newcomers, so many newcomers.

00:28:02.260 And, uh, uh, I think of the, uh, uh, the poor teachers that are stuck with, uh, several kids 1.00

00:28:07.860 in their classroom that don't speak English, you know, just because of the, uh, the, the migrant 1.00

00:28:12.340 boom. So there is, there is a, you know, there's a cost and Albertans are paying it right now. 1.00

00:28:17.220 And I think you're right. I think other provinces are going to keep an eye on it. And if we're

00:28:20.980 successful, they'll, uh, they'll adopt it. That's it. I mean, the term they like using is classroom

00:28:25.300 complexity you know but the reality is if you've got a classroom full of uh english or second 1.00

00:28:30.020 language kids in there it'll be a challenge i i again i think it'd be all right for the 0.99

00:28:34.420 opportunity if people are coming and the kids can learn and grow but people here already shouldn't

00:28:38.980 have to foot that bill i think if we're bringing families over too we're not talking about temporary

00:28:42.740 foreign workers i mean when i was working in the states on my visa i couldn't bring the rest over

00:28:47.300 while i was at it it was just me how are we ending up with families on temporary workers here

00:28:53.060 in the first place i mean this is supposed to be somebody coming to make some bucks fill a void and

00:28:56.420 going back home doesn't work that way in real life though no it doesn't seem to uh but i mean that

00:29:02.420 that's where it exposes i think something maybe this could encourage ottawa to change a few things

00:29:06.500 too because our problem also is it's legislative it's procedural i mean we're not necessarily

00:29:11.380 vetting correctly to have people in the roles we need or following through when they're finished

00:29:16.420 with their visa and getting them the hell out or having them apply to be here permanently

00:29:20.660 Sure, as soon as their visa ends, they just disappear into the system, right?

00:29:23.820 And border services, you know, has lost control. 0.72

00:29:27.040 Tens of thousands of people are here.

00:29:28.820 They have no idea where they are.

00:29:30.120 Or they disappear south of the border, and that presents a security risk. 0.95

00:29:33.820 And there's a certain orange gentleman who's not terribly happy when we give him any excuse to batter at us. 0.98

00:29:38.240 Which he did today.

00:29:39.580 He said Canada is going to be a disaster because of, you know, no walls, no immigration policy.

00:29:47.640 And in fairness, as you said, you know, don't give him the low hanging fruit to hit

00:29:52.560 cause he's going to hit it.

00:29:53.520 Yeah. 0.76

00:29:54.120 I mean, we, we have an easier means to control our immigration. 0.98

00:29:57.640 Most of them are coming by plane. 0.54

00:29:58.800 They're coming through a process that we've, uh, a poorly drafted process, but

00:30:03.060 away, I mean, we're not getting, we don't have a river on our self end that

00:30:05.640 people can wade across that are coming.

00:30:07.700 I mean, we do have some people coming across the American to Canadian border,

00:30:10.440 but they're rarely Americans.

00:30:11.580 They're people who have leapfrogging from other areas. 0.96

00:30:15.200 We can control the ones coming in by air and we aren't doing it effectively.

00:30:22.040 Mr.

00:30:22.340 Trump was probably reading one of your columns.

00:30:24.380 Oh, perhaps.

00:30:25.220 I don't know.

00:30:25.460 He blocked me on Twitter, but some eight years ago.

00:30:28.340 Yeah, it was over to McCain thing.

00:30:30.560 Yeah, that was a kind of a badge and a, and a shame at the same time when

00:30:34.880 that happened, but I thought he's reading my columns, but oh, who knows?

00:30:39.900 It's a crazy world as it is.

00:30:41.220 Okay.

00:30:41.440 We'll move along to some nice sane domestic politics.

00:30:44.960 the referendum, the independence thing.

00:30:46.820 We're, we're in the, the home stretch of what's been, you know,

00:30:49.560 I think one of the longest campaigns we've ever endured.

00:30:54.200 Yeah, it was some interesting quotes this week from, uh, Premier

00:30:57.520 Smith and the budget boss, uh, Nixon, uh, Smith's, you know, the, the

00:31:03.200 figure has been bandied around that the, the number of people voting

00:31:07.980 for independence has sort of plateaued at 30%.

00:31:10.860 And Daniel Smith said, you know, that's a shocking number to her and that number of people who have lost faith in Canada shows that we've got a big problem.

00:31:21.800 And she's right.

00:31:23.180 But interestingly, her budget man, Nixon, came out and said, you know, he wouldn't be surprised if it's single digit support when it comes to voting day.

00:31:34.100 So I think he may be underestimating it.

00:31:36.920 And I think Smith is overestimating.

00:31:39.220 I think it'll come in around 20%.

00:31:41.700 I think there's a good deal of wishful thinking going on,

00:31:44.440 especially with Mr. Nixon,

00:31:45.420 because if it was only 10%,

00:31:46.980 we can move on to something else.

00:31:49.960 So the same would be true for the premier

00:31:53.020 if there is a disruptive separatist element 0.71

00:31:56.260 within her own caucus

00:31:57.380 and indeed within her own cabinet,

00:31:59.760 which is alleged not to be so,

00:32:01.820 but you just never know.

00:32:04.220 Well, if there was no support for it,

00:32:06.580 what a happy day that would be.

00:32:07.840 Well, those separatists are about, I can warn you, they could

00:32:10.720 be in the room with you right now.

00:32:12.280 And, uh, one, one month from the referendum and, and

00:32:15.560 Smith announces the cut in the gas tax, you know, very, uh, uh,

00:32:19.840 almost a campaign type, uh, uh, announcement.

00:32:23.260 So that's going to save Albertans 13 cents or later at the time when

00:32:26.300 they, they need it most.

00:32:27.600 And it's a long overdue should have been done months ago instead

00:32:30.200 of that a hundred dollar check.

00:32:32.680 Yeah.

00:32:32.940 Well, there's going to be, I'm sure a few more campaign shoes to

00:32:35.240 drop as, as things move ahead.

00:32:37.020 I mean, looking at that polling, I, I, the way I look at, I, I haven't seen a

00:32:40.840 groundswell making me confident that there's going to be something over that 50%.

00:32:44.300 I, it, but I really felt, uh, uh, you know, in working in this for this last

00:32:48.140 couple of months, a solidification of that 30 that's there though, I, I don't

00:32:52.200 know if it's going to drop to 20.

00:32:53.260 I think that 30 has become solid.

00:32:55.960 It's just whether or not they've been able to be effective for a mushy middle

00:32:59.260 to bring in the vest, the message for further.

00:33:01.380 Torrey, it's going to be 30% of the people who show up.

00:33:04.080 If everybody was obliged to put their thumbprint on yes or no, I dare say it would be a different number.

00:33:15.140 The thing that's very obvious about the pro-independence faction, which you are proud of, they are motivated, they are keen, they are going to be there.

00:33:24.480 They will get off their hospital bed and go in there and vote and be returned by ambulance to whence they came.

00:33:32.200 They're that keen.

00:33:33.520 So I, on the other hand, whatever that number does turn out to be, I think

00:33:38.160 that's pretty much the high watermark for separatist support.

00:33:42.160 That's time.

00:33:42.900 I mean, I, I was speaking to another interviewer the other day and, you

00:33:46.700 know, talking about when I led the Alberta and its party way back in 2000.

00:33:50.460 And had we held a referendum at that time, I bet we would have been lucky to hit 10.

00:33:54.820 Uh, today we are, I think, you know, people can, they're not being unreasonable to

00:33:58.920 think that like a 30% result is very possible or more.

00:34:01.920 So, I mean, this is something that has really grown, though, and that can't be denied.

00:34:05.360 Do you think that there's still that thought that let's go and vote yes just to send a message to Ottawa?

00:34:11.300 Or is it some of the things that we've been developing recently for Mr. Carney, you know, his powerful anti-Trump rhetoric and his cozying up to Europe and the promises of more and more and things will happen to only give me time?

00:34:25.240 Do you think maybe people are buying that after all?

00:34:29.260 Corey's not.

00:34:30.080 Yeah, certainly not.

00:34:31.920 I mean, uh, but I mean, it's entrenching.

00:34:34.200 I think some of the people who, uh, Carney supported himself

00:34:37.200 is going up in Alberta, uh, provincially.

00:34:40.120 Uh, though I, you know, he certainly, I think the majority

00:34:42.560 of Albertans still aren't terribly fond of federal liberals.

00:34:44.840 There's something when you have an external enemy, a lot of

00:34:47.100 Albertans aren't too thrilled with president Trump either.

00:34:49.700 And if this campaign makes this a versus, you know, Trump and so on,

00:34:53.340 it's harder for the independence movement.

00:34:55.080 They've been working very hard to distance themselves from that

00:34:57.760 US 51 concept that Mr.

00:34:59.840 Wrath kindly brought about to

00:35:01.520 begin with many of the other

00:35:03.000 things that he's done to help

00:35:04.060 the campaign.

00:35:06.320 So we're going to see that push.

00:35:09.460 I mean, from my, my perspective

00:35:11.280 as a person pushing independence,

00:35:13.320 I want more people to take that

00:35:14.540 send a message attitude, look at

00:35:15.940 it's non-binding, you know, the

00:35:17.920 world won't end if it's over 50%.

00:35:19.680 If you still don't like it and

00:35:21.660 there becomes another referendum

00:35:23.000 a year later, you can vote

00:35:24.000 against it at that time.

00:35:25.660 But at the same time, that mushy

00:35:26.780 middle can be the ones put off if they feel this is something supportive of Trump or selling out

00:35:32.260 sovereignty in general. So what would you say to them, Corey? I mean, to somebody who says, well,

00:35:38.020 I would have voted for independence, but I feel like we've got to stand with the liberals in

00:35:43.180 Ottawa against Mr. Trump. Well, a couple of things. Mr. Trump is still in his waning years.

00:35:50.200 Whether the midterms end up reducing the amount of influence he has in the very near future,

00:35:54.420 or even in the longest he's only in for two more years and I would think there's going to hopefully

00:35:59.100 be somebody a little more rational on the trade front by then though a lot of damage can be done

00:36:03.060 in two years fair enough as well the status quo hasn't served us terribly well in general anyways

00:36:11.520 with Trump being a temporary factor I point to the amount of you know 600 and some billion dollars

00:36:18.720 It's gone out with a return on it over the decades.

00:36:21.240 Uh, I still, we're not seeing much progress on this pipe.

00:36:26.100 We're still being more talk and more talk and more talk and more talk. 1.00

00:36:29.040 It's still dependent on the indigenous. 1.00

00:36:31.340 Okay. 0.99

00:36:32.900 It shouldn't have to be, but it is, but you know, Mr.

00:36:36.440 Mr. Carney will not move on that.

00:36:38.200 He's given it a de facto thing and it's dead.

00:36:40.160 Did you see the Liberals sent out that bribe this week?

00:36:43.720 Yeah.

00:36:43.840 Champagne offering, was it 2.5 million to every band along the Trans Mountain?

00:36:49.180 Along that, as I said, there could be a lot of new escalades out in the, uh,

00:36:52.820 but will it buy support?

00:36:55.460 I mean, that's the thing that we've been learning in Canada, getting universal

00:36:59.040 consent, cause that's where it's expanding to too.

00:37:00.960 And again, legally, there's no bloody need for consent.

00:37:04.620 Politically it's turning into one thanks to the pandering, but we're

00:37:08.320 never going to get a hundred percent consent.

00:37:09.980 We're never.

00:37:10.460 So somebody's got to put a foot down and say, this is going, even if not all of you agree.

00:37:15.160 And I haven't seen that courage on Kearney's part yet.

00:37:17.100 I thought if it's declared a project of national interest, it doesn't need no consent.

00:37:23.140 Well, it doesn't already, but that would be, I guess, one more push towards saying, look, we have to bypass these needs because of how important it is.

00:37:30.280 That's October 1st, and that's coming up pretty soon.

00:37:32.360 Interesting timing with the referendum.

00:37:33.940 a moment, uh, if it was solidly declared in the national interest and it really

00:37:38.600 looked like this was going to go, I think that would, uh, for the independent side,

00:37:44.020 negatively impact that mushy middle we're pursuing.

00:37:46.420 Yeah.

00:37:47.600 I think, uh, what really hurt you guys was, was just a lack of a leader, lack of a,

00:37:53.700 you know, this is, this is the independent spokesman.

00:37:56.880 This is the guy you go to, this is the guy who's done by the, who does the media

00:38:00.560 interviews and stuff like that.

00:38:01.800 when you've got, you know, various leaders spouting various different things about

00:38:08.020 outrageous things that doesn't do, doesn't do your side any good with credibility.

00:38:13.760 No, that's been a handicap. I mean, it's a benefit too, because if you had one leader who

00:38:17.540 was a wing nut, they can bring the whole thing down. Whereas you can perhaps quarantine some of 0.98

00:38:21.940 the less savory characters who speak for the movement. But there's been a frustration and

00:38:26.160 we kind of need that solidified, consistent messaging right now. I've been doing a whole

00:38:30.200 lot of media lately, ironically, uh, partially

00:38:33.800 because I think they'd like to speak to Keith

00:38:35.580 Wilson, who's often very rational and

00:38:37.220 controlled and gives good messaging, but the

00:38:39.200 guy's nearly impossible to corner there.

00:38:41.060 They're there.

00:38:41.840 He doesn't return all calls.

00:38:43.340 Oliver and so on.

00:38:44.320 So they, they end up calling me next and

00:38:46.580 well, okay, I'm always there to talk, so

00:38:48.560 I'll give it what I can, but I don't speak

00:38:50.580 for the movement.

00:38:51.080 I can speak for my TPA and my view.

00:38:52.760 There is no, as you said, since.

00:38:54.200 It's an honor to be in the same room with

00:38:55.700 you, Kari.

00:38:56.940 Thanks, but, but you're right.

00:38:58.540 I mean, the legacy media and others are just desperately seeking at least a singular voice

00:39:03.500 that can kind of speak for things, and it doesn't exist.

00:39:05.920 And I believe that is turning into a handicap as the campaign progresses.

00:39:09.840 One thing that ought to help you, I don't feel many great satisfaction at possibly

00:39:16.500 having been on closer terms with the European Union.

00:39:19.880 Why are we connecting ourselves to Europe, which is coming apart as we watch? 0.99

00:39:26.400 They can't control their immigration.

00:39:27.700 they can't control their debt, they say they want their own arms industry, they don't make

00:39:31.620 Patriot missiles or F-35s, they're spending 40% of their defense money in the United States.

00:39:37.140 I could go on, but you know, this is the vision for Canada.

00:39:41.220 Another issue that Carney didn't campaign on, such as selling airports.

00:39:46.260 Absolutely ludicrous. He's turned the prime ministership into a dictatorship,

00:39:51.300 was back in the House of Commons for one day before he jetted off again for another

00:39:55.780 junket into the States, it's amazing to me how he's still doing well at the polls.

00:40:03.300 Well, this European Union thing, I have been getting a lot of feedback on that. I do think

00:40:08.400 that was one of the misplays, at least one of the ones that, as you said, helps the independent side

00:40:11.900 because some of the people find if they were feeling a little of that elbows up and forever

00:40:16.600 Canadian thought, but they also, that means they want to be a sovereign nation of Canada.

00:40:21.320 And Carney's talking about trading it for obligations to a group of nations that's

00:40:27.220 even farther away and culturally different than the United States.

00:40:30.580 That's not endearing some people.

00:40:32.300 Look, if you don't like supply management, you're certainly not going to like the way 0.78

00:40:36.160 the Europeans do their agriculture.

00:40:39.800 The whole thing is supply management right across the continent.

00:40:44.280 People aren't happy with it over there.

00:40:46.540 So this is...

00:40:47.560 Some of those European countries won't be any more thrilled with Canada's supply management system than the Americans are, and that sacred, you know, to use the pun, sacred cow, could suddenly be on the market again if he's trying to cut deals in Europe. Their producers aren't going to be happy with it.

00:41:02.980 As you know, we already have a trade deal with Europe.

00:41:05.820 We certainly do.

00:41:06.640 Under Mr. Harper.

00:41:08.220 He's a trip over to Brussels several times on that one.

00:41:12.100 I guess what slows things down is there's a number of European countries

00:41:15.400 who are members of the European Union who have not ratified it yet.

00:41:18.440 I mean, the big ones have, but, well, France hasn't.

00:41:22.700 If they haven't ratified it yet, they never will.

00:41:25.340 So maybe that's, maybe Mr. Carney has a special charm in his bilingualism

00:41:30.620 that persuade the French to put their thumb on the.

00:41:36.260 Yeah, I doubt it.

00:41:37.160 Yeah, well, let's see what happens.

00:41:38.680 I mean, again, how much influence would we have

00:41:40.480 as this associate member anyways?

00:41:42.060 What does that mean?

00:41:42.820 We talked about it before.

00:41:43.460 Is it your little kiddie table in the corner

00:41:45.380 for Canada in Brussels, uh, on the edge of

00:41:47.880 their, uh, uh, chamber or how does this even?

00:41:51.420 Well, you know, uh, maybe, maybe I should

00:41:53.920 say this for my parting shot.

00:41:55.420 But look, if the, uh, if Europe didn't go to

00:41:59.840 war to defend Ukraine.

00:42:02.960 What makes anybody in Canada think that they are going to help us secure our

00:42:08.120 Arctic if our position there is ever challenged?

00:42:11.900 Yeah, that's another one with working on a Northern end and, and bigger

00:42:15.260 things and NATO and wherever we're going, what a mire.

00:42:20.080 Uh, well, we're getting onto that time towards parting shots though.

00:42:23.320 Did you have another one in the can?

00:42:25.220 Well, if you let Dave go first, I'm going to probably think of something.

00:42:28.100 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yes. Hear this, hear this, hear this. Um, the media are full of speculation

00:42:40.240 about the future of Pierre Polyev, leader of the conservative party, her majesty's loyal

00:42:45.040 opposition. I would put it to you that the media will always do that, but the conservatives

00:42:51.020 should not. They should, they should get behind the leader. The present situation would be

00:42:57.540 the same whoever occupied that position there is it's not like there is something that mr

00:43:05.380 polio ought to be doing that somebody else would be doing and it would be making a difference

00:43:11.540 there may come a time to assess his leadership but the time is not now you've got to give mr

00:43:16.740 carney time to basically expose his weaknesses and then it will be a very different thing

00:43:23.300 so i would just say conservatives lay off the leader had a huge rally in ontario on the weekend 0.95

00:43:29.380 thousands of people so i'm not alone no great what do you got dave uh the lunatic trump has 0.90

00:43:36.820 just invited uh the greater lunatic putin to the g20 meeting okay in uh in miami i think it's coming 0.97

00:43:45.060 up in october absolute disgrace uh putin should not be let anywhere near this uh this meeting 0.99

00:43:52.900 and if canada had any balls they would boycott uh as it's been said if my aunt had balls she'd be 0.96

00:43:59.620 my uncle canada growing a set won't be happening anytime soon i think though yeah that's your 0.98

00:44:04.260 stephen harper would have probably at least not been happy about it no probably isn't

00:44:10.820 all right it was on his watch that the g8 became the g7 yep and dropped and it was putin that we

00:44:16.740 dropped, not just some other hard to pronounce Russian name. Well, we'll see what happens at

00:44:23.060 that one. Okay. Well, then I'll just close off with, I saw that. And the Western stand, of course,

00:44:26.940 has a story on it. The Calgary Police Service put out their consent awareness day to remind

00:44:31.980 everybody that if a woman says no, you shouldn't molest her. Most people have already been raised

00:44:37.580 on that in the modern Western world and know this already. They don't need a consent awareness week

00:44:42.340 for it. I mean, there's certainly some perverts who don't understand that on every group, but

00:44:46.520 I see the CPS went to the trouble of putting that into a whole number of

00:44:49.740 different languages, as if perhaps there's people at different cultures who are

00:44:52.700 having a bigger problem with understanding the female consents required than others.

00:44:57.320 I guess, uh, I'll thank the Calgary police service for their proactive, uh,

00:45:01.940 approach to it, but it kind of exposes a deeper problem.

00:45:04.700 But I think the Brits did the same thing a couple of weeks ago.

00:45:07.380 Somebody over there was sending me, look, look what they're giving out, you know. 0.92

00:45:11.180 Government handbooks, please do not rape women.

00:45:13.400 Yeah. 1.00

00:45:13.740 You know, quit groping the blonde chicks guys. 1.00

00:45:15.580 We don't like that. 1.00

00:45:16.520 i think it might need some stronger action than that oh well as i'll note it anyways all right

00:45:21.820 guys well that's the time we've got dave nigel thank you very much and thank everybody else out

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