Western Standard - August 22, 2026


THE PIPELINEļ¼š Will Carney strike a deal before Trumpā€™s tariff deadlineļ¼Ÿ


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00:00:00.000 Good evening, my name is Corey Morgan, I'm a columnist with the Western Standard and
00:00:28.060 you're watching the pipeline this is our weekly show where a panel of us luminaries from the
00:00:33.800 newsroom will get together and break down and discuss the top news items or whatever we feel
00:00:38.480 are worth discussing at least for this period of the week and interpret them for you there's a
00:00:43.540 whole collection of wisdom in this room today i'll start on the far end we have dave winnick over
00:00:48.240 there filling things in hey cory how's it going fighter extraordinary good try glad to have you
00:00:54.680 on board. News editor Dave Naylor. Hello, Corey. Hey, long time no see. Indeed. And former opinion
00:01:01.560 editor, but still current contributor, Nigel Henniford. Great to be here there, Corey. Great
00:01:05.960 to have you in. So we're going to cover a few things that are breaking. I guess the big one
00:01:10.180 has been all over the news, the confusion, the speculation, the fighting, the fear, the
00:01:14.360 Trump. Yeah. When Trump comes into anything, that's the way things go. So took it right to
00:01:20.740 two hours before the deadline with adding more tariffs to more Canadian products backed off,
00:01:27.660 have three more days and possibly a deal may be struck. I'll start with Mr. Naylor. What the hell's
00:01:33.320 going on? I don't know. Well, that's your news editor. Well, I know. I'm just telling the truth.
00:01:39.140 Nobody really seems to have a huge handle on it. Trump came out today and said, big win for
00:01:46.200 American farmers, no more terrorists for them. So a lot of people online took that to mean the
00:01:52.980 end of supply management, which of course you remember Carney saying that that would never,
00:01:58.420 that would never ever happen. So that's up in the air, that's confusing. And there's all,
00:02:03.900 you know, all the quotas on steel and aluminum and lumber. Nobody's really hit, come out with
00:02:10.600 firm targets yet but you know it looks like a deal is close uh Dominic LeBlanc our trade guy and
00:02:17.160 Mr. Greer the American trade guy came out today and said all the right things and Trump said all
00:02:23.100 the right things that is you know it looks like gonna have a deal but uh Mr. Carney has remained
00:02:28.300 silent uh he's about to have a first minister's conference uh so maybe we'll get more from him
00:02:34.280 tonight but uh it's uh everything seems to be up in the air but you get the sense we're close
00:02:39.580 Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, Mark Carney has made it expressly clear, as every prime minister does, as every opposition leader does. Don't worry, we'll never touch supply management. But he also said not too long ago that the tariffs on the Gordie Howe Bridge would, you know, I mean, the tolls will be carried by the Americans as well. And that sort of fell by the wayside when Mr. Trump...
00:02:58.580 you mean he lied he misrepresented yes perhaps uh well you gotta say cory you know if everything
00:03:06.660 hung on the right of a handful of quebec farmers to charge everybody more for milk butter and cheese
00:03:12.900 and eggs then uh then they ought to be charging you can see why he might fold even with the
00:03:21.300 political back backsplash that there would be from that because certainly i mean these guys
00:03:26.740 have held the rest of the country to ransom for years, decades.
00:03:31.620 But if that was the breaking point, I can see them folding.
00:03:36.180 Well, I mean, I'm hoping so.
00:03:37.380 I know my hopes are thin on it.
00:03:39.380 I mean, supply management, you know, Dave, like that's been a sacred cow in Canada for...
00:03:44.100 I've been trying to figure that out for years, why that's still even allowed.
00:03:47.140 Like how has no prime minister ever tried to stop it?
00:03:49.780 Like even conservative prime minister's like, why has this been allowed to go on
00:03:52.740 them basically just heal out to basically screw the rest of the country over with like this for
00:03:56.580 years because i mean there's that whole what was it i think i think you might have wrote about this
00:04:00.660 corey i think it was well i mean well that but i mean that video of that guy showing them dumping
00:04:05.700 up millions of liters of milk like how's this been allowed to go on for so long i just never
00:04:09.940 understood that well it comes with a big capital q because now it's come to the point of concentrating
00:04:15.220 dairy farms in canada quebec is responsible for 50 of canada's dairy production now and the only
00:04:21.220 thing that prime ministers and politicians are more afraid of than upsetting quebecers is upsetting
00:04:25.300 indigenous chiefs so i mean they're terrified of stirring that up right now and with a referendum
00:04:30.180 coming up in quebec this fall now they come to think of it i don't know if carney would bend on
00:04:33.860 that one maybe what but you know if you're in some ways he's in a strong position because if
00:04:40.340 you're a quebecker would you really want to vote for uh leaving canada knowing that you'd have to
00:04:47.540 come to terms with trump if he did it in the next two years well carney hasn't been doing a smash
00:04:54.020 up job maybe they would prefer the pq is dealing with uh maybe but i mean it's a side note the
00:04:59.940 the pq just announced they won't hold a referendum until trump's gone yeah i rest my case yeah the
00:05:06.660 other big thing out of the trade talks is uh uh trump posting a picture of himself digging the
00:05:12.740 Keystone Pipeline out of the graveyard. Mr. Winnick's expertise. I thought you guys did that with the
00:05:20.580 AI. No, no. Is that a day all in? That's not a Dave Naylor original. That's not a Dave Naylor
00:05:26.900 original apparently or whoever runs his true central account I guess. So could Keystone be
00:05:32.740 revived? That's the whole thing that everyone's talking about but no one really knows what he
00:05:35.620 means by that because they've already been talking about Southbow and I think Bridger Pipeline in
00:05:39.300 the states have been talking about doing a deal that uses parts of the Keystone pipeline to go to
00:05:44.180 Wyoming and Trump actually just approved a cross-border permit for that pipeline. I think
00:05:49.800 it was April 30th he did that. So I think that's what people are talking about but I don't know if
00:05:54.160 they're going to talk about maybe expanding that into the full Keystone XL pipeline and reviving
00:05:58.180 it totally because no one again there's so much stuff up in the air about this announcement that
00:06:02.000 no one actually knows for sure what's going to happen yet but everyone thinks it's probably the
00:06:05.420 South Boat Bridger project he's talking about.
00:06:07.640 That would be 550,000 barrels a day going sell, which is well on the way for Premier
00:06:14.680 Smith, her promise of double oil production.
00:06:18.400 Well, it also gives you some idea of how quickly he expects to sort things out in the
00:06:22.240 Strait of Hormuz.
00:06:23.760 Yes.
00:06:24.080 Yeah.
00:06:24.600 As long as that, as long as the MRA is the price.
00:06:29.080 So I can, I mean, you can't build the thing overnight.
00:06:32.360 It's going to take a while to get done.
00:06:33.860 And although the pipeline is built, it's built on the border, isn't it?
00:06:38.380 We'll leave pretty close.
00:06:39.920 It's just sitting there.
00:06:43.900 I don't know what it would take to bring it back into.
00:06:46.780 Well, Trump seems to be a bit obsessed by this.
00:06:51.240 And I think it's because on day one, when he went into office,
00:06:54.660 sleepy Joe Biden canceled the Keystone.
00:06:57.560 So I think Trump is going to say, you know, turn it around.
00:07:00.380 And this is another thing he can say.
00:07:02.120 Trump did this.
00:07:02.960 I've revoked it, and I've done it this time, and we're helping Americans get energy sufficient.
00:07:11.280 He picked up 400,000 barrels a day from Venezuela, if he wants to. This is about
00:07:18.960 ensuring American oil prices and keeping gas prices low. He has every incentive. Maybe it's
00:07:27.680 It's Canada that doesn't have the incentive to go through with the thing and accelerate
00:07:32.620 our own oil export.
00:07:36.300 If Trump wants it, it's going to put more pressure on Mark Carney to agree to it.
00:07:40.720 So then in theory, I know Corey will disagree with me, in theory then you'll have a pipeline
00:07:47.200 under the Liberals going south, pipeline under the Liberals going west.
00:07:53.240 What use would they have for a conservative government anymore?
00:07:56.240 you know it's the liberals that got the pipelines built well there was something as well too i saw
00:08:00.340 that i can't remember what was earlier in the year they were there was rumors that carney was
00:08:04.200 actually maybe thinking of using keystone as a bargaining chip in the trade talks because
00:08:08.760 apparently he'd heard that there had been actually private sector um interest in reviving that so
00:08:13.640 maybe this has been like in the cards all along who knows and they finally just pulled it out at
00:08:17.120 the last minute maybe get this deal done but like i said we haven't heard exactly what's happening
00:08:20.800 with keystone yet but i'm assuming we will be probably in the next day or so i'm certainly not
00:08:25.000 in Carney's shoes but I mean if you're playing pipeline leverage something that clown should
00:08:30.480 have done a year ago is fast track the one to the west coast I mean the thing is you've got another
00:08:35.680 suitor over there you know you want to keep the girlfriend on it's just as long as they know
00:08:39.920 there's another one making eyes at you over there and you know they're gonna say well let's develop
00:08:44.340 our relationship further and he's dragging his heels on getting it to the bloody coast it's
00:08:49.240 talk and talk and talk and talk I mean we wrote that recent article on Carney's accomplishments
00:08:53.180 I think it was one of our smallest ones yet to date, wasn't it?
00:08:56.420 Only three paragraphs.
00:08:58.980 So, you know, when things got active in the Straits of Hormuz,
00:09:02.660 the big story was that the Yanks were selling oil out of the refineries,
00:09:10.200 the processing plants on the Gulf, but not the Hormuz, the Gulf of America.
00:09:16.400 So what's the, is that still the case?
00:09:20.140 Are they still pumping it through there?
00:09:21.860 Because if they are, if that's the game, then of course they would like cheap Canadian oil,
00:09:30.300 ship it down to the south, sell it on the world market for more.
00:09:34.920 This is the theory behind the pipelines that we are pursuing, is to access the world market.
00:09:41.680 I find it very credible that Mr. Trump would want to put the KXL back online.
00:09:49.980 Oh, it's a great value-added deal for the United States, whether it's for domestic supply or if they're going to upgrade it.
00:09:56.520 It's a good deal.
00:09:59.820 And they have an insatiable appetite for oil.
00:10:02.580 I think a lot of world leaders are finally realizing that reality, despite their ideology, the world's nowhere even close to coming off oil yet.
00:10:13.860 What happened at the shutdown at the Shredder Hormuz?
00:10:15.820 Look how quickly everything changes from a quick shutdown of like a couple weeks.
00:10:18.820 Look what changed.
00:10:19.300 so yeah of course yeah yeah you know Germany learned that pretty hard once things got shaken
00:10:23.300 up over there and when they've gotten so dependent on alternative energy I mean if that was the case
00:10:29.380 under pressure from Trump the new British Prime Minister Burnham is looking at reopening the
00:10:34.720 North Sea for development so that'll be another too bad they tore so much of it out of the sea
00:10:40.200 yes well I mean the money the dollars and cents really are all what it comes down to in the end
00:10:45.420 though you want public support you can talk about all the principles and everything you like
00:10:49.200 when it costs them that much to fill up their car or heat their house they're going to vote
00:10:53.440 somebody out if they get too upset from that so i mean politicians are inspired to get that supply
00:10:58.900 run so what do you think though we got a three-day deadline now is it three-day deadline yeah
00:11:05.540 tick tick tick tick till the next one yeah till the next time excuse me the case with trump
00:11:11.460 it's always moving goalposts but i mean because kuzma is still day by day practically now and
00:11:17.820 I saw a brilliant article in a column in the Globe and Mail saying, you know what?
00:11:22.080 We don't need American trade and losing Kuzma is not a big deal.
00:11:25.300 I mean, the Globe really outdid themselves with that beauty.
00:11:27.820 Well, I understand it wasn't the Globe.
00:11:28.880 It was one of their columnists.
00:11:30.180 But, oh, wow.
00:11:31.780 Yeah, we kind of need America.
00:11:33.560 Yeah.
00:11:34.780 Yeah.
00:11:35.440 What is it?
00:11:36.020 There's 4% with China, like 2% with the rest of the world.
00:11:40.640 The rest is American trade.
00:11:43.060 Because it's one of the biggest consumer markets on the planet.
00:11:45.200 And we're right next to all exports.
00:11:46.860 Even if you don't like it, that's the situation today. And to talk to whoever this person was about not needing America. The sad fact of the matter, even in the auto industry back there, the Honda plant that was established there was based on selling Hondas into the United States, not selling Hondas in Canada.
00:12:12.360 So, of course, Canada needs the American export market, and that's what they're
00:12:21.140 standing to lose in the auto industry as a result of Trump's determination to bring
00:12:25.900 that production south of the border, which is all for an entirely different reason, strategy,
00:12:34.720 making America capable of building its own war material and not having to rely on other
00:12:40.240 people.
00:12:41.240 uh, and that isn't even an economic argument for Trump.
00:12:46.040 The automotive, I mean, that's been an area for, uh, have difficulty, uh, for Ontario,
00:12:52.840 you know, in the economy and votes in general down there, if they keep losing all of these,
00:12:56.280 I mean, all of the electric vehicle ideas and notions that the past prime minister put it,
00:13:00.680 have failed and now the conventional vehicle market is disappearing.
00:13:05.560 From Stellantis announced this week, they're looking at selling their, uh,
00:13:09.240 their plant down in ontario yeah it's kind of bleak for the automotive uh same thing happened
00:13:13.800 in australia i think in 2017 when they started shutting down all of their plants and shipping
00:13:17.560 everything to china too i think it was i think it was um oh was it like it was the gm of australia
00:13:22.680 hold it hold and yeah started shutting that down yeah just totally just ripped up their entire auto
00:13:26.840 industry now they don't even have an auto industry in australia so everything's in china now so well
00:13:31.400 there's that irony what's gonna be happening meanwhile carney is making uh you know good
00:13:35.400 relationship with uh mr jinping and uh we're bringing in more chinese made vehicles that's
00:13:41.160 is that where it's gonna go that's not gonna make mr trump any happier either no they won't get
00:13:45.320 across the border either electronic systems whatnot who knows you want to try and take
00:13:48.840 your chinese ev on holiday to the states good luck it's not gonna pull my fifth wheel
00:13:55.800 i don't even know what that means corey i wasn't reading anything weird into that
00:14:00.600 one what is it uh what is it you drive you got a ford well i got a little hyundai but uh yeah
00:14:05.800 jane drives a big chevy truck i i drive a little compact for when i'm ubering and so that's right
00:14:11.480 but i mean i do do my you know desert retreat every winter and we pull that big fifth wheel
00:14:15.720 trailer with it and there's no such thing as electric vehicles pulling large trailers it
00:14:20.600 doesn't work yeah except to see one no i think they tried that with that ford lightning that
00:14:25.320 short-lived uh pickup truck they had that was electric and just with a modest trailer to pull
00:14:30.040 that your range suddenly went down to like 100 kilometers per charge you were worthless but
00:14:37.880 i won't forget my chinese truck anytime soon all right well it's getting a little more domestic we
00:14:42.520 see uh uh premier smith spoke up on uh when a full real referendum date might be scheduled
00:14:50.040 if it were to happen it'd be spring 2027. yeah it would be uh she wants it if it does pass
00:14:57.080 this october she wants it held before the next election so you know you could go from from uh
00:15:02.920 october vote to a march vote a very quick turnaround um i i don't know why she would
00:15:10.520 want to do it that quickly do you well i've been a speculation i always do but they're not often
00:15:16.040 right but once in a while uh i mean again premier smith is a federalist i despite what they always
00:15:21.400 label her as she's never painted herself as being a sport of independence with this referendum
00:15:26.280 coming, something that's been gaining steam in the campaign and some of the pivot among some of the
00:15:30.780 campaigners, full disclosure on one of them, is moving more towards that send Ottawa message,
00:15:35.660 more towards hitting the soft supporters, the ones who are upset with the Federation say, look,
00:15:39.580 you've got a safe haven for your vote on October 19th. You can place it on option two to give
00:15:44.900 Ottawa the middle finger, shake things up, get some concessions, maybe make some changes so
00:15:49.780 independence doesn't become necessary. But if that window suddenly closes to saying, well,
00:15:54.380 that would mean that the binding referendum would be three to four months later.
00:15:58.260 Those soft supporters aren't going to feel as inclined to make that mark on it.
00:16:01.320 They're thinking they're going to buy a couple of years of negotiations with this,
00:16:04.580 not three, four months, and suddenly we're right back into another referendum.
00:16:08.240 I think this will hurt the independence movement potentially
00:16:11.240 with that threat of an actual binding referendum coming back quickly
00:16:15.540 because I don't think they were ready for it.
00:16:17.100 Can they get the judgment out of the courts quick enough that it would even be legal?
00:16:21.380 Probably not.
00:16:22.040 I mean, that's one of the caveats that Premier Smith put in that too, I think, was saying, well, it's assuming the court gives this because we can't do it until that happens and the Indigenous consultation is done, which is a sketch, as Canadian legislation says, anywhere from five minutes to 200 years.
00:16:36.280 Maybe she's done it or would do it so quickly.
00:16:40.840 I mean, you've got to admit the independence groups have had trouble with their leadership.
00:16:45.240 There's no clear leader.
00:16:47.760 And if she put it off for a year or so, that would give the independence people more time to get organized.
00:16:54.180 And more time to maybe come up with a firm leader of the cause.
00:16:59.720 But by holding it so quickly after the October referendum,
00:17:04.000 she would give very little time for the independence people to get rid of this.
00:17:07.840 So at Corrie's point, she really is a Federalist.
00:17:09.840 Oh, there's no doubt she's a Federalist.
00:17:11.520 Or some people, I'm seeing the left screaming,
00:17:13.260 there, it's perfect, she's a separatist,
00:17:14.760 she's trying to help this and aid this and everything.
00:17:18.020 But from my read on it now,
00:17:19.260 I don't see this tactically helping the independence movement at all.
00:17:21.900 She's always said she's a Federalist.
00:17:24.940 Well, and they'd label her,
00:17:26.720 I mean, she'd get a Canadian flag tattooed on her forehead,
00:17:28.680 they'd still call her as separate as her her opponents will but from what i read into this
00:17:33.380 yeah and as you said even if the result does come over the 60 i i don't know if the independence
00:17:39.620 movement is capable and organized enough to win it i mean she will peel off that band-aid fast
00:17:43.940 can't have done well i was going to say do you think she announced it that quickly because
00:17:47.440 they have no hope of actually winning so she won't have to worry about the logistics because
00:17:51.400 they will never actually like win like a yes vote so i wouldn't go as far as never but as
00:17:55.860 Steve says, this movement needs a couple of years to get it together, I think, and a lot
00:18:00.180 of it to actually get behind real.
00:18:01.240 Support is not growing in all the polls.
00:18:03.680 It seems to be stuck at 30%.
00:18:05.540 It's right around 30.
00:18:06.140 And it's not moving, so.
00:18:08.300 Yeah, there's a sort of weariness of the whole thing.
00:18:11.700 You know, on the cocktail circuit fairly recently, that's all people were talking about.
00:18:16.120 No, they're not.
00:18:18.020 You're on the cocktail circuit?
00:18:21.140 What exactly does that entail, Nigel?
00:18:25.140 How do I get on the cocktail circuit?
00:18:27.540 Listen, we find you at the Owl's Nest.
00:18:29.540 We know where you get your leads from.
00:18:31.640 Yeah, good point.
00:18:32.420 I guess I'm on the cocktail circuit of one.
00:18:41.080 It's a tough road for the Premier to fend off the people within her own caucus
00:18:49.240 who badly want to take the province out of Canada.
00:18:54.720 And at the same time present a federalist when half of the people who really like her a lot are, are actually sympathetic with the, with the separatists, will this make it go away?
00:19:06.700 Answer?
00:19:07.600 No, it's not going to go away.
00:19:08.620 It's not going to go away.
00:19:09.440 You've got a third of the province ready to go.
00:19:12.440 That's not insignificant.
00:19:13.980 That's a substantial, uh, commitment.
00:19:17.500 I mean, yes, 70% wants to stay fine, but you've got a core and very dedicated people.
00:19:21.820 A lot of the 70% are kind of apathetic that this is a movement she's going to have to cope with and the Avery Albertan leader is going to.
00:19:30.320 I mean, one of the lessons of history, we all know, is that substantial changes usually are driven by motivated minorities.
00:19:39.380 I mean, whichever revolution you want to look at, it's seldom a case of worms turning against their evil masters.
00:19:46.480 It's usually a small group of people who say, screw this, we're going to change something.
00:19:50.260 I mean, the Russian Revolution is a perfect example of that, but so was the French.
00:19:54.320 So was the American Revolution before it.
00:19:58.460 So you're right.
00:20:01.140 This is not going away anytime soon, with or without referendums on referendums, followed
00:20:07.180 by referendums on the issue, followed by an election on the issue.
00:20:11.640 Oh yeah.
00:20:12.640 The thing I'm interested in, everyone's been so much on the independence one.
00:20:15.200 What happens with all the other questions?
00:20:16.760 Nobody's even talked about those.
00:20:17.760 What happens if any of them get a yes vote?
00:20:19.160 really falling by the wayside all the immigration ones what happens if everyone votes yes on the
00:20:22.600 immigration ones which they're going to probably so what happens then nobody's even talking about
00:20:27.000 this no you know to bring up uh the the chief of stiff weasel and head uh stephen carter and his
00:20:33.720 group uh he's really taking that on actually to try and campaign against the nine uh you know no
00:20:39.080 to the nine he's actually fine and uh he's right in saying that these are being forgotten while
00:20:44.920 everybody talks about question 10, okay, but I mean, some of them have some good immigration
00:20:51.960 things the government could do. Some of them are just pipe dreams no further removed from reality
00:20:57.480 than the independence question would be considered. I mean, they involve opening the constitution.
00:21:03.080 I have to question the wisdom of that slogan, no to the nine. Stop 10 people on the street
00:21:10.760 and ask them to name them. They don't know what the nine is.
00:21:13.880 that's why he's trying to keep it simple though just tell him just do a big
00:21:16.440 strike through on all of them just say no to everything uh we had a discussing them all one
00:21:20.760 by one i had an interesting story today on the alberta prosperity projects plan for when they
00:21:27.000 get elected and where they're going to put the power and they they've said they're going to put
00:21:31.720 the president and the vice president in calgary uh i still say cory's gotta got a chance at that
00:21:38.200 They're going to put the Senate in Red Deer, they're going to put the Supreme Court of Alberta
00:21:45.240 in Grand Prairie, and they're going to put the Auditor General and the Attorney General in Lloyd
00:21:50.760 Minster, but on the Alberta side, you know, got to be on the Alberta side. So the plan is to spread
00:21:57.640 out the different agencies of government, and the only other country in the world that's done
00:22:04.200 this type of thing is south africa so why you would want to model yourself after south africa
00:22:09.160 is beyond me well maybe they know more about the coming immigration push than they do that is a
00:22:14.520 good point yes but the uh you didn't mention edmonton was that well they've got no i mean
00:22:22.920 they've got i assume members of the legislature and stuff like that congress would would suit
00:22:29.960 in debminton they're using all the american names like congress well they want a republican system
00:22:34.840 i suppose yeah that would be that typical i mean it's not the worst document i read it
00:22:40.200 it's all right you know mostly focused on individual freedoms a republic basis controls
00:22:44.680 on the government things like that um it's a discussion that's coming into the thing too late
00:22:50.280 and again as an independent supporter getting back to where smith scheduling this keith wilson was
00:22:55.320 right at the beginning where some people were so upset that we didn't get that up down yes no
00:22:58.920 question while looking at how poorly organized and i know there's been so great organized people
00:23:02.440 people working their butts off and i'm still giving this all the way events and good campaigning i
00:23:07.480 think we could still it's not impossible to get over that 50 on a on this question on a question
00:23:12.760 but if it was a yes no clarity that question we weren't ready to win that there's no way we
00:23:17.640 we would have been slaughtered in this uh come this october cory i'm going to ask you what what
00:23:22.760 What percentage vote would settle this?
00:23:27.660 Because I don't think 50% minus one settles it.
00:23:31.120 But from the federal point of view, I don't think, you know, 50% minus one settles it either.
00:23:38.980 No, that would be a disaster in a binding referendum.
00:23:44.200 That's more of a recipe for a civil war, to be blunt.
00:23:46.520 Although I've seen no appetite, by the way.
00:23:47.980 You know, anybody watching, there's none of that has been showing.
00:23:49.900 uh to put it to bed this would have to come in for the independent side i think being under 20
00:23:55.640 i think we're pretty confident it's going to be higher than that what was that in olds this
00:24:00.260 what was the bi-election on olds this room well that was uh you can't measure that because that
00:24:05.880 was cam davies i that was more a measure of a very shady individual running a very questionable party
00:24:14.340 in the strongest area of support for independence in Alberta, and it came in at 17%.
00:24:20.700 That's another aspect of illustrating why, though, the independence movement isn't ready
00:24:24.660 when voices like him can come in, and Mr. Parker and some of the others.
00:24:30.700 I mean, I'm pushing.
00:24:31.860 I want to get there, but I'm the first to admit, I don't think we're ready.
00:24:35.500 And this soft question gives a real opportunity.
00:24:38.020 One thing I did agree with on the APP Constitution was term limits. You know,
00:24:45.780 only two terms for senators, two terms for congressmen. Does it say anything about elected
00:24:52.980 judges? I didn't get that far. Yes, I believe they had term limits as well, actually.
00:24:56.660 Yes, which would be elected judges would be a great thing when you see some of the
00:25:00.740 crap that's going on in the judicial system. It's a good discussion document,
00:25:05.700 but this is stuff that this movement should have done years ago i i had preston marining on my
00:25:09.540 show earlier today and that was a good talk and that was one of these when we brought quebec and
00:25:12.900 he pointed out that quebec has spent millions they've been building they've been you know making
00:25:17.300 their plans on this for a decade they've really got a lot put together the alberta movement has
00:25:22.660 i think the support base is there but we haven't built that foundation yet and i think it's just
00:25:28.420 my speculation that smith knows it the the the worst thing that could happen the movement is to
00:25:32.980 to fire the gun too early.
00:25:34.640 Yeah, absolutely.
00:25:36.620 Why do you think it took them so long to write a constitution?
00:25:39.400 That's what I've been warning this whole time, because there's been people
00:25:41.300 involved in Alberta independence for years and years, and they never thought
00:25:44.320 of having like an actual document to begin with.
00:25:46.160 It was like, here, here's what we do.
00:25:47.360 We go from here.
00:25:48.340 Even basis, because I haven't even seen like a real basis for anything
00:25:51.060 until the last few months.
00:25:52.240 Well, I'm not a member of the APP, but, you know, I've been following
00:25:55.900 things closely.
00:25:56.640 They had a lot of internal division over that document.
00:25:58.900 And because it was completed almost a year ago now.
00:26:01.500 And, uh, I think they've been tweaking and adjusting all the
00:26:04.080 way since then until now, but they've had other stuff going
00:26:05.980 on, which I don't know the full basis of.
00:26:08.560 Oh, okay.
00:26:09.720 Wouldn't be the first time that the Constitutional
00:26:11.680 Convention has come several years after the revolution.
00:26:14.320 Yeah, it's true.
00:26:14.820 It's good to start the discussion better late than
00:26:16.540 never though.
00:26:16.900 I'm glad they put it out.
00:26:17.780 Bruce, uh, Bruce Party put out a proposed constitution a
00:26:21.320 little while back, very scaled down, uh, very
00:26:23.520 libertarian leaning.
00:26:24.960 And I believe Keith Wilson's group, because they keep
00:26:27.360 talking about it, they're going to have something coming
00:26:29.000 out soon with these white papers.
00:26:31.220 Yeah, I've heard about that.
00:26:31.820 But we're getting really late in the
00:26:32.840 game for these discussions, you know,
00:26:34.440 we're getting to the vote point and
00:26:35.840 people are going to read constitutions.
00:26:38.540 No, and again, it's a communication
00:26:40.000 problem with, if you're a voter, you're
00:26:41.460 on the side, okay, I mean, I got one,
00:26:43.160 two, three separate constitutions.
00:26:44.560 What am I supposed to believe?
00:26:45.920 Well, that's where, yeah, you got to
00:26:46.900 have some debates and you can't have a
00:26:48.020 solid one out.
00:26:48.680 I mean, that's the difficulty because it
00:26:50.180 goes to a constitutional convention, but
00:26:51.740 yeah, got to start that discourse somewhere.
00:26:54.440 Well, to that point, let's say that the
00:26:57.760 separatist vote is not persuasive in the October referendum. Would that be, would that actually
00:27:09.120 trigger the groups who are interested in Alberta independence saying, okay, we need to get together
00:27:15.440 and do some work and then going off and doing it? Or do you see the same, you know, herd of cats?
00:27:21.360 There's always going to be some of them, herd of cats. That's just the nature of that
00:27:25.360 that movement, conservatives in general, I've got two contingencies in my head.
00:27:29.040 You know, one is the champagne quirks and the little hat and you know, well, my
00:27:32.380 diet Pepsi that I'll drink as we got over 50% because we managed to get people to
00:27:37.680 choose that send Ottawa message messaging and the 30% dedicated independent
00:27:41.880 supporters went, and then we carry on the process or it comes in say at 35, 40%,
00:27:47.420 which isn't insignificant.
00:27:49.860 Then we examine ourselves and say, well, why didn't we get over the line?
00:27:53.480 What were we lacking?
00:27:56.060 Uh, personally, I think it's things like an Alberta pension plan.
00:27:59.260 It's, you know, a lot of these connections we have, the Quebec already severed.
00:28:02.340 Let's look at Quebec.
00:28:03.980 They're collecting their own taxes.
00:28:05.480 They're running their own pension plan.
00:28:07.860 Let's lobby on getting rid of those question marks and then start reevaluating.
00:28:11.540 You may disagree, but I don't think the APP, the Alberta pension
00:28:14.560 plan is a winner for you.
00:28:15.840 People are frightened to death of losing their CPP.
00:28:18.480 I know.
00:28:19.440 And that's why that task has to be done because that's killing the
00:28:22.200 independence movement right now too.
00:28:23.880 It's the number one thing when I go to
00:28:25.200 public speaking events and we go to the
00:28:26.660 Q and A and we get a senior coming up
00:28:28.820 saying, I'm going to lose my pension
00:28:30.180 because Jason Kenney sent.
00:28:31.160 So it's bull, it's pure crap.
00:28:35.160 And we, but it's winning, it's working.
00:28:38.960 Thus, we have to find a way to counter it
00:28:40.880 because we will lose on that one over
00:28:42.380 and over until we get our own plan.
00:28:43.860 Yeah.
00:28:44.040 Well, people need to understand you can
00:28:45.420 be in Costa Rica or Afghanistan and
00:28:48.100 draw your Canada pension plan.
00:28:49.420 We try to make that case, but as long
00:28:51.160 You got a cassock up there.
00:28:52.480 They're going to take away your passport.
00:28:53.680 They're going to take away your pension plan.
00:28:54.860 You know, that's the narrative.
00:28:57.820 And we haven't countered it effectively.
00:28:59.720 As you said, it's a losing one right now.
00:29:01.900 So these are the things I think the movement would have to move on to.
00:29:05.260 You know, I mean, if you've lost a referendum of 35%, to go the day after and say, well, let's push for another referendum right away.
00:29:11.780 I mean, people are like, well, why?
00:29:13.100 We don't repeat that.
00:29:13.960 You've got to change the circumstance.
00:29:15.760 Sorry.
00:29:16.480 What if it comes in?
00:29:18.600 We've talked about the polls being at 30%.
00:29:21.160 What if it comes in at 26?
00:29:22.840 What if your final vote is 26%?
00:29:25.360 You know, you've talked about what you're going to do at 35 and 50.
00:29:28.040 What do you do at 25?
00:29:29.740 Well, I mean, it still doesn't give up, but it makes me realize I wanted a
00:29:32.860 decade to work on it.
00:29:33.960 You know, it's not going to be something happening fast.
00:29:36.100 So again, looking at that long game, uh, maintaining the foundation, but
00:29:39.540 realizing this just isn't happening.
00:29:40.800 The appetite isn't there right now for it.
00:29:42.480 And we have to figure out if we really want it to happen, how to
00:29:45.660 build that appetite.
00:29:47.080 But what if it's like Scotland at 44?
00:29:49.680 Well, you know, if it's like Scotland at 44 and you were Mark Carney and you get this memo from the chief of staff saying Albertans just voted 44% in favor of independence, that's actually not a good start to the day.
00:30:05.700 No.
00:30:06.380 That would be, that's not conclusive.
00:30:09.520 You have a problem.
00:30:10.840 Well, and it's voting to continue the process.
00:30:12.680 There's part of why it's not conclusive too, but that's one of, I think, the selling points for those of us who are hardcore, but you can bring a larger group in.
00:30:18.960 And theoretically say you got 55%, pretty weak, but now you're moving
00:30:23.760 towards another referendum.
00:30:24.880 If that referendum was a year and a half way, you might be able to move that.
00:30:27.720 But realistically, 20% of that 55 was probably people who wanted to send a
00:30:31.760 message and they're not going to vote in spring to go.
00:30:35.680 They're not there yet.
00:30:37.060 There's where I think tactically, and I don't like the tactic because I think
00:30:41.820 it might be effective.
00:30:43.120 It undercuts the strength this fall for October.
00:30:45.940 So it's not.
00:30:47.660 Smith, another, another brilliant political move by Smith.
00:30:51.680 If, if that was the intent, yes, I don't have to like him.
00:30:57.680 You know, some of the listeners, Corey, geez, what do you do?
00:30:59.900 Well, no, I mean, just credit we're doing.
00:31:01.260 That means we got to accept where it may have put us at a disadvantage and
00:31:04.280 figure out then how as campaigners, we can counter that, uh, because it
00:31:09.180 changes the timelines in our messaging.
00:31:12.900 We'll see.
00:31:13.720 We're in for an interesting year, no matter how it goes.
00:31:15.640 All right. Well, let's talk about something else. I see you put in a column from one of the more vocal arseholes on the Western Standard set there. Morgan talking about anti-automobile activists disguising themselves as safety activists.
00:31:30.680 Well, you know, there's a lot of that sort of activity where people come at their issue
00:31:36.260 indirectly. I'm going to be talking to somebody later this afternoon who is talking about
00:31:41.960 activists who don't like the LNG industry trying to frighten people on the routes that are likely
00:31:52.420 to be used, saying, oh, it's going to poison you, it's going to kill the salmon. And it's
00:32:00.080 Well, they don't actually come right out and say, we want to stop the LNG development.
00:32:07.520 They just say, LNG development is likely to hurt you.
00:32:11.400 Well, now you come to your theory that you have activists, really, they're anti-car,
00:32:19.660 but they go around with a different message.
00:32:23.960 And they're environmentalists.
00:32:25.540 They're climate change nuts.
00:32:27.140 and you know it's a free world you're uh you're allowed to you're allowed to talk rubbish if you
00:32:34.580 think it's going to help you but uh i get so tired of it and i'm so tired of this anti-car thing
00:32:41.860 the car is the ultimate is the ultimate symbol of freedom you know and the the stupid thing
00:32:48.360 some of the mainstream media uh weirdly did stories on was they they want a coroner's inquest
00:32:54.280 into is our bigger trucks and cars killing people well no shit sherlock you get hit by a chevy uh
00:33:03.740 you know pickup truck it's going to hurt more than a lot you know a little electric train will hurt
00:33:09.620 you more than a bicycle so i mean that's a stupid thing to start your argument off with but you know
00:33:15.580 we we drive downtown every day well at least dave and i do and i cannot believe how ludicrous
00:33:22.640 pedestrians act you know they're they're starting into the intersections just as the green light the
00:33:28.080 opposite way is going i have you know being me i roll my window down and scream at them
00:33:33.520 uh and then you've got scooters zipping by and electric uh bikes going this way and that way
00:33:40.120 it's no wonder pedestrians are getting killed by a record amount no they don't even look either
00:33:44.220 way when they cross and most of it and most of it is their fault because they either don't know the
00:33:50.000 traffic rules they don't think it applies to them but the amount of jaywalking is just incredible
00:33:55.140 which i do believe is illegal it is illegal and they won't crack down on that another part that
00:34:00.780 is uh they don't like talking about but we see that as downtown drivers how often are they addicts
00:34:07.060 just wandering into the middle of street the collisions that have been going up i mean that
00:34:10.640 we see the areas when you hear about it it's over by the elbow river casino and so on nine times out
00:34:16.000 10 because they just i mean it's sad these are people who've lost all hope in life that's why
00:34:20.720 they don't care they're going to walk right into the middle of traffic but that's exactly what they
00:34:24.400 do yeah i mean you hear about pedestrians getting killed at 2 a.m in the morning well you know what
00:34:29.520 it's likely some sort of uh intoxicant involved with the pedestrian oh hit by trains you see them
00:34:35.040 staggering on the train tracks all the time downtown so i'm not surprised yeah and i mean
00:34:39.600 but it's back to what i wrote about what nigel was talking about the the underlying route though
00:34:44.320 when i lived in calgary and we left 14 years ago and the battle was big then because they were just
00:34:49.200 bringing in the painted lines of bike lanes because they were just taking out parking in
00:34:52.880 areas and certain roads 10th street they hadn't started these god-awful tracks yet and they were
00:34:57.680 saying then this is going to bring people commuting in on bicycles this will raise it up there's a
00:35:03.680 minority of people who ride them but if they would get those lanes loads of calgarians will pack up
00:35:07.840 and start looking the stats are in after 14 years of this and bike tracks and things everywhere it's
00:35:12.960 still under two percent it always was under two percent the spandex aficionados nutcases who are
00:35:19.140 going to ride all weather and in the the their bike to work will always be but they're not growing
00:35:25.300 i was going to say cory i mean i see like in the summer months i bet you the most cyclists i've
00:35:30.780 seen at one time down around here is four i think i counted one day four that's it and i think most
00:35:36.860 of those are just carriers like the carrier guys going around between offices that was it yeah and
00:35:40.160 city knows these stats so why are they refusing to get rid of these lanes and that's when it gets
00:35:44.320 back to because the intent isn't to facilitate bicycles it's to hinder cars that's the underlying
00:35:49.520 thing yeah but we finally got some common sense coming into the conversation the ontario court
00:35:55.520 uh last week said uh you know you don't have a constitutional right to uh to bike lanes uh the
00:36:01.840 ucp government is has obviously clicked that hey this is a vote winner so their uh their minister
00:36:07.840 Devin Dreeshan is talking about removing bike lanes.
00:36:11.280 Yeah, get going, rip them up.
00:36:12.960 Yeah, rip them up and while they're ripping those up,
00:36:14.960 maybe they could also rip out those stupid little,
00:36:19.120 I don't know what they're for, but you've got two lanes and suddenly
00:36:22.320 the curb lane is interrupted by something that just sticks out like that.
00:36:25.840 Yeah, it's scooter parking.
00:36:27.440 Scooter parking.
00:36:28.240 And I heard about that before too, because it's the same intent.
00:36:32.240 It's to hinder cars.
00:36:34.240 It's just to get in the way.
00:36:35.440 We weren't running out of room to stick those stupid scooters.
00:36:37.680 You can stick that, those little parking things anywhere you please.
00:36:40.400 They stuck them up at the end of intersections.
00:36:41.880 That way vehicles can't turn right on a red and can't get around other vehicles.
00:36:46.480 The intent is to hinder traffic.
00:36:49.080 Let's just call it what it is from these city planners.
00:36:52.800 So has any alderman ever run on an explicit platform of elect me and I will do
00:36:58.800 everything I can to hinder car traffic in Calgary.
00:37:02.040 They certainly won't do that.
00:37:03.280 And it's not that the councilor is so much of the problem, it's in administration.
00:37:07.080 Well, because they don't want fire, they will deal with it.
00:37:11.960 I remember these debates happening with Sean Chu when he was in the city hall and he called
00:37:18.380 out the senior bike commissioner, this woman, and, and basically called her a liar in there
00:37:23.640 because she was lying about the stats.
00:37:24.640 And she was, she was lying through her teeth and then she went postal on them.
00:37:28.960 I mean, that was one of the bigger city hall battles going on down there.
00:37:32.000 How dare you question a senior city official?
00:37:34.820 Well, is that your bloody job?
00:37:37.080 And, but that's the atmosphere and attitude down there, that you don't question these
00:37:41.760 planners and they're extremists.
00:37:43.980 Yep.
00:37:45.120 Well, I come back to my earlier observation.
00:37:48.780 I would rather have a car than a vote.
00:37:51.280 You know, if you're, if we're talking about liberty and freedom, I want the ability
00:37:55.680 ultimately to, it's defined for me as the ability to walk out of my house, get into
00:37:59.940 my car and go anywhere I want without asking anybody or having to get permission.
00:38:04.860 Cars are empowerment.
00:38:06.140 Uh, I've, I've written on that, like one thing that really stuck in my head when I was working in Pennsylvania, it was a little steel town down in this awful Canyon with a railway through it.
00:38:15.620 It was your company town, about a hundred and some years old, but it was just striking in, it was the big steel mill, the downtown commercial buildings in city hall and, and, uh, uh, community center, all again, commercially built by the one mill.
00:38:29.680 but when you lived down there a hundred and some years ago that mill owned you all the houses were
00:38:35.340 cookie cutter they owned those you couldn't work anywhere else because the mill owned everything
00:38:39.580 you were close to being enslaved that's what why unions came about and things later but one of the
00:38:44.640 other things that broke that stranglehold were cars once you had an individual auto you could
00:38:49.040 drive 30 minutes to pittsburgh and find another job you could pack up your family and go somewhere
00:38:54.240 when you become dependent on the state for your transportation i don't see that as being a good
00:38:58.960 end i don't know as well in this city why they're trying to be anti-car when calgary's huge it's
00:39:03.580 basically built for automobiles because it's bigger i think area wise in new york city so
00:39:07.260 it's like why are you trying to get rid of cars and something that annoys me about cyclists too
00:39:10.600 is if you have to pay for a license and insurance for your vehicle why the hell don't we get them
00:39:14.960 to pay for a license insurance for their bicycle because if you have a driver's license and you
00:39:18.220 want to get a motorbike you still have to go take a test get an updated license for the motorbike
00:39:22.000 and guess what pay for insurance for that motorbike why don't we do that for the bicycles
00:39:25.220 and the cyclists i've never understood that if the city wants to make more money there's one way to
00:39:29.140 do it a lot of people campaign on adresian smells that and that's why he's going in i mean i i felt
00:39:33.460 it's kind of an intrusion i'd rather the city voters dealt with it because it should be a
00:39:37.300 municipal issue but he's jumping in because he knows it's a winner because people are sick of
00:39:40.740 that and he knows the city's not going to do anything about it no and there's nothing more
00:39:44.500 frustrating i do that walk every day too there's a bike lane on on eighth avenue on each side of
00:39:48.900 the road and half the time i dodge a cyclist because he's riding on the freaking sidewalk
00:39:52.740 Anyhow, they aren't using the things, but that gets back to the point.
00:39:56.420 It's not about the cyclists.
00:39:58.540 It never has been.
00:39:59.300 And there's nothing more that infuriates me.
00:40:01.580 And I'm sure you too, Corey, then on a snowy day, driving down into downtown
00:40:06.240 Calgary after battling the traffic for 90 minutes and you look around and all
00:40:10.060 the snow, all the, uh, bike lanes have been plowed and there's not a plow on
00:40:15.220 the street anywhere.
00:40:16.340 No, they're priority one.
00:40:17.600 They're same as any other, they get the same priority as if it was a road
00:40:20.720 in front of a fire hall.
00:40:22.740 mind-bothering hopefully we get some change well let's just use a few minutes in our parting shots
00:40:28.860 there's four of us here to rant and rave on a few things i'll start with you nigel i didn't want to
00:40:33.240 encroach him well you know i i just i've loved the fact that we've given so much attention to
00:40:39.520 mr trudeau's security details and his follies um and when when mr harper retired to
00:40:49.800 calgary he had one security person and he had a full-time one but stephen harper was a guy who
00:41:01.560 could walk anywhere in calgary or edmonton anywhere in alberta frankly and either people
00:41:07.780 would recognize that he was a former prime minister and you know be respectful or they
00:41:12.420 would be so enthusiastic that it would be awkward for him because you just can't, so
00:41:18.800 all it took was one. How many is true to that? Four. Four. Yeah, and is that standard or
00:41:24.820 did it get more when he goes somewhere exciting? And don't forget it's not, it's him traveling
00:41:28.960 the world with his girl pal. Yeah. Right, Katy Perry. So when they're sipping wine in
00:41:33.520 the south of France, there's four RCMP bodyguards with them paid by us. Yeah. And you know,
00:41:40.920 I mean, she's a kazillionaire.
00:41:42.320 Why does she throw in some money to pay for?
00:41:44.200 And, of course, the RCMP won't discuss the cost,
00:41:47.340 but it'll be in the millions.
00:41:49.520 And, sorry, the difference also is people hate Trudeau.
00:41:54.400 You know, unlike Stephen Harper,
00:41:56.340 I kind of think he does need protection.
00:41:59.820 I think you may be right.
00:42:00.840 Because there's always some lunatic that could go up
00:42:03.120 and just punch him in the face.
00:42:04.740 Four is enough.
00:42:05.420 I don't deny, I mean, the need for a prime minister
00:42:08.300 to have protection, even Trudeau,
00:42:10.140 even though i gotta admit if somebody just came and flicked his ear or something nothing major i
00:42:13.740 would have to laugh at the video but a prime minister should be protected fair enough even him
00:42:18.780 uh but one should be enough you want above and beyond especially if you're globe trotting pay
00:42:23.020 for yourself he's a trust fund baby anyway it's worth a couple hundred million yeah if one isn't
00:42:27.980 enough well you know what you don't take the extended vacations you live like normal canadians
00:42:31.420 do you can only do what you afford yeah anyway it's the ultimate measure of the man that he
00:42:37.260 He needs more security than his predecessor.
00:42:39.680 Imagine that.
00:42:41.040 We get to pay for it.
00:42:42.200 What do you got, Eve?
00:42:42.960 I want to talk about Canadian golden boy Ryan Reynolds,
00:42:47.160 star of Deadpool.
00:42:49.220 And he started this soccer club.
00:42:53.320 He didn't start it.
00:42:54.000 He bought into this soccer club in Wrexham in Wales,
00:42:57.020 turned it into a global sensation with his show,
00:43:00.820 Welcome to Wrexham, made a whole pile of money,
00:43:03.640 and was very successful with his soccer.
00:43:07.260 Now, our Royal Bank of Canada has invested in Wrexham, so Mr. Reynolds will have got
00:43:16.680 a whole bunch more money in his bank account.
00:43:18.920 So they can have a Royal Bank of Canada insignia on the front of the Wrexham cert.
00:43:24.940 Now, okay, Mr. Reynolds, good for you, but how about, you know, maybe getting some money
00:43:30.400 invested into Canadian soccer now?
00:43:33.360 know you've made you you've made a lot of money and now you know you're always
00:43:37.020 bringing up how proud you are to be a Canadian and now it's time to now it's
00:43:40.800 time to pay pay back some good luck and what about RBC why aren't they
00:43:44.680 investing in soccer or in Canadian stuff and they do a lot of golfers in the
00:43:49.640 States but RBC does business in the States I don't think they do business in
00:43:53.940 rural Wales not much you could have the star power to escalate a Canadian team
00:43:59.240 Reynolds would do it I mean he's a personable guy oh love him just love him
00:44:02.980 You know, it's just a very slight criticism, but he should do more for Canadians.
00:44:07.240 Hopefully he catches your article.
00:44:09.240 There you go.
00:44:10.300 Shirts on the top of his list.
00:44:12.500 You never know.
00:44:14.140 Have a date.
00:44:15.160 Well, I was looking.
00:44:16.260 There's this article I saw in McLean's that saw an interesting stat.
00:44:18.900 Apparently gun license applicants in the greater Toronto area have doubled in the last decade,
00:44:22.680 and women are apparently the fastest growing demographic.
00:44:25.160 So I wonder if that has something to do with the mass increase in crime,
00:44:27.540 because the main reason women are getting into firearms is because of self-defense.
00:44:31.460 So I was just thinking maybe the next time they go and vote in a federal election,
00:44:34.420 maybe look at the liberals and their criminal policies and bail policies.
00:44:37.320 Just a thought.
00:44:38.160 It'd be refreshing.
00:44:39.100 You know, justice just never seems to make, it makes the news, but it never makes the elections.
00:44:43.220 It really doesn't.
00:44:44.400 Like that guy in Ontario today.
00:44:47.600 Three times he's been released on bail.
00:44:49.780 Three times he's committed more sex offenses against children.
00:44:52.620 What do you have to do to be locked up in this country?
00:44:54.740 Well, you commit mischief.
00:44:57.180 40 days.
00:44:58.160 Yeah, we've got our priorities off.
00:45:02.920 Well, I guess, you know, it's our job to just keep hammering the justice thing.
00:45:05.220 Because your average person on the street is sick of this.
00:45:07.960 As you said, if they're buying firearms, they're concerned.
00:45:10.300 You realize the system doesn't work.
00:45:11.420 Why can't our politicians make hay of justice issues?
00:45:14.120 They've never, and I've seen them try.
00:45:16.700 They just don't seem to grasp the imagination when the election comes.
00:45:19.160 I don't get it.
00:45:19.780 And when they do do something right, like mandatory minimums,
00:45:23.620 you've got the abacus judges, you know, saying they're unconstitutional.
00:45:28.160 that's right the there was a gun trafficker major gun trafficker today in windsor i believe uh got
00:45:35.200 house arrest because the maximum uh minimum wasn't available to the judge so house arrest for dozens
00:45:43.360 of guns yeah well we got her all wrong you anyways well dave dave nigel we've run the clock out i
00:45:51.440 didn't really have much to go on with a parting shot anyway so thanks for the company during the
00:45:56.080 pipeline this week and another derek free episode yeah derek free again next week okay well i guess
00:46:01.760 tune in next week guys for another derek absence pipeline and we'll break down a few more issues
00:46:06.960 have a few more uh parting shots to throw out there and uh you know solve some of the world's
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