1 SHOW LEFT?! Andrew Wilson IRL vs. SUPER FEMINISTS! She Did 1 Guy PER DAY?! | Dating Talk #221
Summary
In this week's episode of Whatever Dating Talk, the boys talk about the current state of the world, the future of the country, and the latest viral labiaplasty news. Also, we try to figure out what s going on with the super chat feature on the latest episode of the show.
Transcript
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welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating
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hellscape i'm your host brian atlas we're coming to you live from santa barbara california every
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sunday and tuesday at 5 p.m pacific a few quick announcements this podcast is viewer supported
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heavy youtube demonetization so please consider donating through stream labs instead of soup
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chatting as youtube takes a brutal 30 cut that is streamlabs.com slash whatever link is in the
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is 100 and up if you want to interact nearly instantly with us and weigh in on the conversation
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consider sending a tts text to speech message 200 and up triggers tts tts is via stream labs only
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there is a slight moderation delay with the tts also for the final time we are trying out this
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custom tts feature uh we failed at it the past three shows but we're going to give it one more
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time so the link with the guide is will be added shortly to the top of the description uh you still
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send the tts through stream labs but when you input your message you can kind of customize it with sound
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effects and a custom voice so damien uh lower that you're probably gonna have to lower the volume a
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bit play that first example chad i have an announcement to make bro i wonder what he will say
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surely he will not say something dumb all right so and then scroll down we have a so you can do biden
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click on biden if you want to there are a lot of perks to being president one of these perks is free
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us cream whenever i want play uh deadpool if you really strain your ears you can just about hear
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the sound of no one giving a damn that was like british deadpool uh dr disrespect let's hear dr
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disrespect let's talk about me let's talk about the six foot eight frame the 37 inch vertical leap
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the black steel that drips down my back aka the bulletproof mullet uh m&m his palms are sweating
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these weak palms are heavy scroll down i see that speck on your shirt again oh no oh no it's not
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working okay um scroll down there's obama my fellow americans we have found life on a new planet
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and we will be moving to that planet and then trump my name is donald j trump and i approve this
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message i don't know why it likes to play the super chats but i'm going to try to get through the
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intro we're probably going to have to because it's not working again we're going to have to
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disable it uh so guys uh it's the uh final two shows so the champagne pops are 50 off via stream
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instagram if you can make it to santa barbara follow me on instagram bd underscore atlas check
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out my non-profit profit movement big labia matter blm for short it's really the pressing issue of our
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time 10 000 labiaplasties a year in the united states um total tragedy more pressing than uh global
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warming uh poverty uh starvation children starving global war war war um so and you guys keep sending
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me there's some viral uh instagram clip of some post operative labiaplasty it's very you you guys keep
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sending it to me it's very uh i'm very upsetting and uh we have a disc oh no hold on excuse me if you
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can't catch the full shows we have clips channel link for that is in the description speaking of
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which we are guys one more show left so uh while we are on break though we will be posting every
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single day on the clips channel so you guys uh can get your uh your fill of whatever content have you
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seen destiny gave went a sloppy toppy oh boy i couldn't believe it bruv okay i told milaney i said
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did you see destiny gave went his sloppy toppy that was the um thank you i i have to guys i have
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to i don't know i got to talk to tts monster figure out what's going on okay well okay we disabled it
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sorry guys uh let's see here so we have a discord discord.gg slash whatever guys if you recall from
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last show i posted the new beat this is on discord only the bts so there was a krav magachik who tried
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to uh she uh tried to put well put a rear naked choke on eric and um can you um i'll actually
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now you you gotta go to discord.gg slash whatever if you want to see it but it's the better angle
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because it on stream we didn't really capture it so well but that security camera we got there
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captured much more of the fight between the 410 krav magach badass and eric uh so be sure to check
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it out discord.gg slash whatever and we have what uh uh oh uh that's it okay disclaimer the views
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expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel with that said
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and without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please
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wait hold on i'm sorry before we do just because it came in
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oops scuffed hold on i know what i know what went wrong uh yo yellow banana thank you for the
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champagne pop let me re-trigger that there i don't know what happened let's see if this will do it
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uh it's because the tts monster scuffed it for us yeah you can get me one we'll do it while
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everybody's doing their intros and whatnot uh sorry one sec yellow banana it should be coming in here
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any second oh no okay let's do this then that should be coming in
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yellow banana donated $500 pop champagne champagne pop for andrew
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yeah thank you uh yellow banana i do appreciate it um here you know what i'm gonna pop it
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why don't we just do it right now but i don't know we got we got to figure out because some of y'all
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are not 21 correct yeah so more for us all right uh yellow banana appreciate the champagne pop we're
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gonna get this poured in just a moment no that was only one i accidentally
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no no no yellow banana another one speaking wait you know what though i'll do you a solid
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who's down to eat a banana right now because there's bananas right behind um nasty hey they
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are still good they're still good okay i ate too many when i was a kid who's gonna i can't eat them
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now anybody okay go take it take it i'll have like a piece of yours no oh they're gonna share okay
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yellow banana i do appreciate it also uh oh we have this coming in i guess
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gloctavius donated two hundred dollars my sprinkler goes like this
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it's really cool um i know it's breezy it was in the refrigerator
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that's why it looks like this all right thank you guys appreciate it that's probably why it was
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definitely in the refrigerator okay uh name age location occupation starting with you
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hi my name is lucy i'm 21 um i'm from la and i work as a waitress
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all right uh any school uh yeah i go to the city college studying what architecture and interior design
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all right what about you i'm mizzy i'm 29 i just started streaming because i got off of a reality
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show and i live in hollywood california you're on shark tank right fish tank fish tank yeah
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that's the same high show yeah i feel like i'm at home with a tts right now
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yeah any school i went to school for criminal justice you got a bachelor's in that bachelor's
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in criminal justice yeah okay got it what about you hello i'm ruby i am 20 and i work at a local
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car dealership and i'm from tennessee all right 20 uh school uh no
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i i graduated um two almost three years ago from high school yes okay and uh three year
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you you live in tennessee yes okay nashville yeah got it all right mandy um well i'm mandy i'm 20
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i live in northern california and i'm currently unemployed this is my job right now so age sorry
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i missed that 20 20 20 school um i'm not in school right now any college no okay all right
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what about you hi my name is kenna and i'm 19 i do of and i dropped out of college last year
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sorry your name is ken you said kenna kenna yeah uh and what's the nature of the content that you do
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on only fans i like sell my nudes is it like boy girl solo content yeah yeah okay both all right
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gotcha any college completed no no do you want to go to college no okay do you do of two or no i
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don't you guys are friends though correct we are how do you guys what's your question i'm trying to
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like recruit her to do of with me but she like just does not like want to that's a conversation
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stop it get some help all right and uh you're in are you in tennessee too or yeah i'm in nashville
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with her got it okay what about you i'm l barbie oh my gosh sorry i am 23 i'm from chicago
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um and my occupation is i'm like a social media manager and activities aide and i am a college
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dropout so don't ask me my degree you got associates or just dropped out before i dropped
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out in like 2020 during covid i couldn't do college for covid it was too much sorry okay
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my name is naomi i'm 18 i do only fans and i go to veterinarian school where are you from
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uh san diego san diego okay and you're uh how long have you been 18 since february when did you start
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doing only fans since february so so birthday on my birthday i made you made it yikes uh or yeah
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and uh okay uh what's the nature of the content that you do in only everything boy girl yeah okay
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girl girl girl girl girl girl girl all right what about you hi my name is riley um wait what was the
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question uh name age occupation location okay my name is riley i'm 18 i do solo on oaf and i go to
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san diego city college um and i'm majoring in psychology and you're from san diego yeah okay
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got it all right what about you yeah my name is andrew wilson i'm the host of the crucible popular
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entertainment channel on youtube i'm a political analyst political satirist i enjoy having conversations
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like this all over the world uh it's a lot of fun to do so i'm glad all of you are here if we can
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have this uh this conversation tonight also the crucible crew remember we support people who support
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us right and uh out here in california brian graciously hosted us to uh put on this excellent
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show so make sure to let the super chats flow thank you very much andrew do appreciate it my name is
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brian atlas 35 youtuber host of the whatever podcast owner of the whatever podcast washed up
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sorry washed up over the hill has been youtuber uh santa bar location santa barbara california going
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around the table once more what is everybody's current relationship status if you're single how
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long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead i'm
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currently single and the longest relationship i had is like eight months and you were uh on the
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show about a month two two months ago yeah uh were you in a relationship then or single then no i was
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single then okay and you said longest relationship eight months yeah how long you've been single for
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uh a year one year pretty much yeah you're in a month the eight month relationship is that the one
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that ended a year ago no that was one prior okay uh the eight month relationship who broke up with who
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um we went over this i feel like we went over this already okay that's fine for new um i was broken
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up with okay yeah and then most recent relationship who broke up with who um i did the breaking up but
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it was time okay yeah what about you i'm single my longest relationship is five years and my last
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relationship was in may so about like six months ago seven months ago yeah okay
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the five-year relationship was that the one that ended seven months ago no that was like ended
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a long time ago okay uh most recent relationship who broke up with who i broke up with him five-year
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relationship who broke up with who i broke up with him okay why um he deserved better i think at that
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time like i didn't know who i was i was very young and i realized that he deserved someone that
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loved him for truly for who he was and i just knew that wasn't me and i also deserved to be with
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someone who you know reciprocated that as well okay uh and then also really quick just on the champagne
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here do you want champagne yeah champagne yes champagne yes okay all right
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um my longest relationship was maybe half a year this was in fifth grade and then and then my last
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relationship was um the end of my senior year for less than a month did they break up with you because
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of the years was it because of the years yes yeah he would be like and i'd be like
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no it was just a silly little high school thing and we were i was graduating so
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so wait your last serious relationship was in fifth grade
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well that was like i've had two serious quote-unquote relationships where it's beneficial
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and it was fifth grade and then the end of my high school year okay um so you've been single for how
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long um i guess that'd be like three years three years you said yeah since i graduated
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longest longest relationship my longest was my six month one in fifth grade i see okay uh so you've
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been single for three years since you were you're 20 now since you were 18 17 yeah i think there's been
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there's no guys in the picture whatsoever um i've had like a lot of talking and friends with benefits
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benefits but never anything official okay uh is there currently a guy in the picture yeah i'm talking
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to this guy how long have you been talking to this guy
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we we've been talking since um the beginning of october so like two months yeah two months okay
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uh are you guys exclusive um we haven't really talked about that but i assume we are i've stayed
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like you're exclusive then i think he is too i don't really exactly know to be honest but i'm okay
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either way i'm not really super like judgy or anything because we haven't put a title so i'm not gonna
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expect anything do you want a title um maybe in the future i think about it so you're not that into him
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then i'm i'm not really wanting to settle down until i'm like 30 i don't date to marry you date for what
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for fun and experience however life is whatever comes my whatever comes my way whatever comes my way
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i just sort of deal with it i used to move around a lot and so um i never felt like i could have like
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a stable relationship with that your dad in the military or no he he actually lives in new york
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and then my mom lives in kentucky so you said uh you don't you don't want to settle down until you're
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30 yeah okay so are you polyamorous or um you like dating or sleeping with multiple people at the same
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time sure yeah i have fun with that yeah so how many are you seeing uh other men besides this guy
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no okay just him have you had periods though where you've had a roster or dating multiple men
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i guess so really nothing was ever like too serious whenever it was going on and i always
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established from the get-go my expectations and like i'm not really expecting like a full-blown
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relationship this is how like i view dating okay what were your expectations um just to hang out
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and have fun okay so you'll straight up tell them that you're not looking for anything serious yeah
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because i feel like it's really important to do that i've talked with men before and met up and
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they are really expecting something super serious or they got out of a serious relationship
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and so i'm always like oh like what's the sort of context around this to see how it would work out
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and with me having my own views on wanting to settle more in my 30s i always let them know that
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okay before we get into the next person we do have to do uh a cheers uh this is for uh cheers to
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yellow banana or in this case slightly browning uh cheers to oh you have to finish the banana i have
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to finish it well you're gonna cheers the banana you have to cheers the banana in one bite
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i just want the mic i'm sorry guys it's all good thank you uh yellow banana i do appreciate it
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your relationship status um i currently have a boyfriend uh we've been together two years
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in like five months i want to say six months or four months two years four months sure that's my
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longest relationship all right the longest relationship how did you guys meet uh we went
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over this on the last podcast i met him on grinder yeah so just uh you met him on grinder yes
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okay um isn't that for gay dudes yes it's for gay dudes okay
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so you went to grinder to try to pick up gay guys i was in a dark place okay
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that's wild so he's gay he's bi but yeah he was definitely on there for men wait do you um
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do uh do you do butt stuff with him yes but like to him yes
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spicy watch does he prefer he prefers it or is he a bottom
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kind of so you top he's like he's like verse but like yeah sometimes i do oh he's what he's switch
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verse yeah like a switch yeah verse yeah it's like it's the same thing as a switch okay so um
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tell me when to stop on how big the strap so you peg your wait wait so you peg you peg your gay
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boyfriend yeah yeah and she looks like she has a great time doing it too do i look unhappy now
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no you're thriving facts slay queen um that's cool so you guys what um what was your who messaged
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you first on on grinder so this is actually a funny story because he messaged me first but there's
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like this thing called a super like and he super liked me but he told me later that that was an
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accident and he thought that i was a catfish and so i messaged him back and he asked me for a picture
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of myself so i sent him like a live photo of myself and he realized that i was like a real person so we
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met up and um for like you know we were kind of just friends for a while it was like gay besties
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kind of vibes and then like as it progressed like we like we're just like into each other and just
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kind of worked out so does he sleep with other men now no no you guys are monogamous yeah well sometimes i
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sleep with girls in like as a threesome or separately from um separately okay so it's one
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one ended open yes i know how that sounds but you only sleep with one like you don't sleep with other
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men no only just other women yeah and you've been with him for two and a half years yeah how many
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women have you smashed in that period two or three two three you had something is he allowed to
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to have sex with other women no no so just you walking like a dog i told i told him if he wasn't
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okay with me doing that that that was fine with me and that like we didn't have to do any of that
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stuff but he was like no like go have fun like do whatever and i'm like okay i mean would you like
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let him fuck another man to be honest i mean to be fair and charitable to you yeah i do a good
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question she asked if i would let him have sex with other men and this is where it's kind of
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conflicting for me because i've considered like i want to be able to like let him do that because
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like obviously like i don't think that he would like you know go off and you know live somewhere
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else with him but i don't know i think that i don't know i i get mixed up about it because i
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have like bad feelings about it i shouldn't have bad feelings about it because it's just sex but i
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don't know i mean to be charitable to your position though like i wouldn't have high standards for a
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dude who got pegged with a seven inch dildo right like it's not like gonna be super high standards here
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yeah yeah fair yeah how did you get banned from all the other dating apps that's crazy
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okay listen i shouldn't i that's something for another time we'll talk about that off camera
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i were you going on them underage yes that's fucked up um yeah definitely but i didn't meet him when i
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was underage so yeah wait did he think you were like gay like a man or something so he told me that
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he thought i was either a catfish or like trans or something and so he was like not sure so he
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wanted to meet up with me to like see what the situation was i guess was he like so he going in
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he was like this person could have a penis or a vagina yeah okay nice nice can i ask was he like
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when the first time you guys hooked up did he sigh when there wasn't a penis was there a sigh
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i can't say that there was was he disappointed probably
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uh i don't know where you go from there i don't know where you go from there i think we end the
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how would you rate the the pegging like does he enjoy it as much oh he didn't yeah i mean
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good lord there's so much degeneracy on this panel right now so bad just for you andrew i
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curated you guys invited me back this is awful but so um that that was what that wasn't upsetting
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though isn't that a little upsetting that like he it sounds like you said he was disappointed that
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you had a vagina would that i feel like that'd be kind of disappointing well i mean i don't know
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if it was just he was just like oh like that yeah well yeah because he's like he's like maybe
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there's a surprise under there and he's like fuck nothing you know so i mean i don't know i don't i
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can't i wasn't in his mind at the time i don't know sure all right well i mean it worked out fine
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it may though despite all this aside from you andrew this she may very well be the woman with the
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longest standing relationship on the panel so wait actually well we'll see uh relationship status
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wait how long have you been with him two and a half yeah like two and a half years yeah uh what
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about you oh i'm like recently single uh for how long uh like a month probably longest relationship
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oh it's like a year it's like this past one wait is that the one that ended a month ago yeah okay
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and uh you've been single for a month have you been celibate for a month no no i'm i'm still
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getting with him well because like he's my partner so like i can't really not you know your partner how
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excuse my only fans partner so he's the guy you do content with yeah you don't do content with other
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guys no well like until i find someone else he's the guy so even if you were hooking up with this guy
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through only fans for the content what would actually prevent you from going out and getting
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another guy well like i'm heartbroken right now like we just broke up a month ago so are you still
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are you still hooking up with him outside of the of content no like he just comes over like for
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strictly content like we don't hang out or anything put him to work do you think he ever like has like
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feelings like maybe no no no he he's like really mean to me you can ask her that's nice at the same
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time because he like still comes over to help me so it's like i don't know you know it's an ongoing
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dynamic that should have ended like so long ago but he like helps me make money so it's okay and i
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offer to pay him so he's my age well he's 20 20 yeah do you split the money with him no so he just
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has sex yeah i mean i feel like that's that's a good enough award yeah she would get him gifts
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yeah oh okay uh so that's your longest relationship it ended were you guys living together yeah still
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living together no no so this is kind of like how do you move on well i'm like planning to move
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probably to like a new state so like then i'll just find someone and then i'll have like yeah
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it'd be great all right uh okay you'll find someone else to give you a reward why yeah why did you guys
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break up i i'm not sure honestly like well who broke up with who oh he broke up with me why
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i like i don't really know how it happened like we were going like for a drive and then we got back
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to my house and i wanted him to talk to me and he didn't talk to me so like i wouldn't let him
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like in my apartment so like he broke into my apartment so then he like broke my side mirror
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off my car i thought you guys were living together though we were but like it's my apartment like i
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paid so you were living together but he broke in yes the place he lives it wasn't his place
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it was like my place he like lived with me that's the thing did he have his own place
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i mean he had his mom's place i guess but he was how long had he been living with you
00:30:37.880
like for a few months so he definitely lived yeah he was a tenant no he wasn't because i was the only
00:30:44.500
one on the lease he wasn't on the lease okay well let me ask can i ask you a question when he broke in
00:30:49.980
did he later tell you i didn't break in because i live here did he say that did those words ever come
00:30:55.640
out of his mouth no no he didn't say anything he was just really mad oh yeah technically he was a
00:31:02.020
tenant he was not a tenant he was definitely a tenant he was not a tenant you guys if he lives
00:31:12.660
there he's technically a tenant yeah you have to give him a 30-day notice girl yeah he's like it's
00:31:17.020
complicated i promise you he was not like i'm technically not even on it what yeah but you're
00:31:21.920
no i mean it's then how is it your apartment okay you guys because like i am you're not a
00:31:28.560
tenant in your apartment that's yours that he broke into even though it was yours yeah so like i like
00:31:33.800
i just kind of live i'm like i live there for free because i'm not like squatting there
00:31:40.120
but like because like is there a lease yeah but just like not through me like i'm like in foster
00:31:46.280
care so like the state pays for it so he was like staying with me so like that's not his place
00:31:51.460
so that's why i was like you broke in foster care you're 18 yeah but like you can like
00:31:56.240
recommit you're 20 or no you're 19 right yeah 19 and you're in you're still getting paid for by
00:32:02.180
the foster system they're not paying for anything really they're just like except your place yeah
00:32:06.920
yeah they give me a helping hand for all the trauma i've been through like my whole life this was
00:32:12.060
like my reward and the state knows that you do of work i mean like they know how much money i have
00:32:18.360
i tell them but they don't know that you do of work no i say taxes i say content creator like
00:32:25.600
own business well i haven't like done taxes yet wait okay a couple questions to clarify
00:32:31.380
you were so wait so my tax dollars wait what what well you were living at this house for how long
00:32:40.960
you've been living at the house like um like since the summer like after the summer i guess
00:32:46.640
like august because i could see some sort of situation where you were in foster care and
00:32:52.420
there's some like you're remaining at the place of residence from the point of like 17 18 and you're
00:32:57.520
remaining there and perhaps it extends beyond the age of 18 but that's kind of it's like the state i
00:33:03.100
guess like kind of thing like i guess it's different from state to state well i when i turn 21
00:33:08.960
that's when i'm like that's when you i'm free yeah okay you said because of your trauma so is this
00:33:14.720
like some sort of ssi type thing what's that like some type but no nothing like that nothing nothing
00:33:21.120
like that no i know exactly how you where you are and so yeah uh wait so uh i have no idea how this
00:33:28.280
works how does this work so okay you're in foster care yeah uh so are you like were you orphaned or
00:33:35.260
what's so like my parents like i ran away from my parents and like that happened so they put me in
00:33:41.400
a foster house like with my foster parents and they're great like i love them so much and like
00:33:46.300
you can like recommit to the state and they'll like help you out they'll like give you money every month
00:33:51.680
they give you a place to stay what does recommit to the state mean like i don't know if you can't
00:33:58.580
like afford your own like living they'll help you they'll reinstate you as like they're also pay for
00:34:03.580
your college too yeah wait so at what age did you run away from your parents house like 16 why
00:34:10.880
oh because they were like not good parents like we just like didn't go like you know when you was
00:34:17.960
there like abuse or they just told you no oh well like my like brother used to like molest me
00:34:24.460
like yeah there was that but your parents themselves no they didn't do anything but that was like you
00:34:31.280
just didn't like them well me and my mom like clashed like you know you know like two people
00:34:37.860
just like don't aren't good together that was me and my mom like and me and my ex and they let you
00:34:43.360
go into foster care your parents yeah they didn't like me either like they were toxic too
00:34:47.420
okay wait your parents didn't like you no i mean my dad liked me okay this is but my mom you know
00:34:57.560
like the moms are always like the the head of the household so my mom was like wait what
00:35:01.780
well my mom was at least wait that's the problem when you say like it was both your biological
00:35:11.620
parents right no no no i'm adopted okay so they adopted me when you you were adopted at a young
00:35:18.100
age yeah i was adopted when i was like a baby by by these parents and then i ran away from those
00:35:23.840
parents i see okay um where you were adopted from oh china china okay uh okay have you you're not in
00:35:34.400
touch i'm assuming with your biological parents um and then okay so your adopted parents ran away from
00:35:43.500
them and then you had foster a different set of foster parents is that correct or well you had your
00:35:49.740
adoptive parents and then you have your foster parents yeah but like i like your foster parents
00:35:55.200
is that correct okay but and you live with them for two years yeah but now you're on your own yeah
00:36:01.320
but i still go back for like holidays and everything i see okay all right uh with your with your
00:36:09.240
biological parents no my foster foster parents yeah you don't talk to your i'm sorry your adopted
00:36:14.440
parents yeah i don't talk to them no okay what about you oh um so i am married um i have been with
00:36:24.140
my partner for two years uh i think a little under than you two years and four months we celebrated
00:36:29.240
um what else what was that the question well congratulations oh thank you longest relationship
00:36:34.840
so this is my second relationship and this is my longest relationship all right okay wait can we see
00:36:41.820
the ring oh my goodness i have to get it resized like i'm i'm wearing like my other oh the band yeah
00:36:49.320
yeah i'm wearing the band and i put it here because it's too big so i have to get it resized
00:36:53.500
unfortunately i have small hands not small hands okay still cute though what about you um technically
00:37:00.360
single um what is technically like i date everybody so like not everybody but you know like you have
00:37:09.120
you know like how many guys do you have in the picture right now four okay you're sleeping with
00:37:15.080
all of them yeah okay uh and you've been technically single for how long um
00:37:22.680
since i was like in middle school i guess like so okay so you never had a boyfriend
00:37:29.040
no i have i have i just like i don't say they're real like relationships because i always cheat
00:37:36.680
you know so it's like i don't really like they're not committed i'm not a committed person i don't
00:37:44.440
know this looks really bad um i'm just not a committed person and i don't really take relationships
00:37:50.900
seriously you know i have a question yeah as someone who also doesn't take relationships seriously but
00:37:58.480
like talked about establishing that with them like do you communicate that or okay yeah yeah i could i
00:38:05.860
like say that i i cheated most of them like you know cry or some of them stay they just
00:38:13.620
but you say that after meet the kaiser donated two hundred dollars brian cheers to a good show
00:38:21.960
sorry for the delay kaiser always happy to see you glad to see my girl lucy back on the show
00:38:28.140
she's a lesbian that talks non-stop or as i call them a chatterbox she is bisexual i'm pretty sure
00:38:36.180
right yeah not a lesbian yeah but i am a chatterbox not today though yeah i'm bisexual oh we'll see
00:38:44.340
um what was your question what was your question for but do you only tell them after because the way
00:38:53.180
you're talking about this you sound like you don't establish it from the get-go but then later
00:38:58.420
cheat and then say i cheated and then they like cry and then they're heartbroken or they're like
00:39:03.580
whatever but my thing is like if you don't ask me to be your girlfriend you know like then we're not
00:39:10.600
together you know so like i will tell them like i am sleeping around like you know i'm with other
00:39:17.560
people but sometimes like they don't take it like take me seriously because like i'll hang out with
00:39:22.060
them like you know like more like every day and like stuff like that like go stay at their house
00:39:26.720
and stuff like that but then like when it comes down to like when i'm not with them like i go do
00:39:32.180
other things and then that's why they get like sad and stuff but i always tell them like you didn't
00:39:36.700
ask me to be your girlfriend it wasn't established so therefore you know i can do whatever i want you
00:39:42.800
know right uh right uh you're i mean it's your longest relationship
00:39:50.280
um like six months six months okay all right did you cheat on that one too yeah after six months
00:40:02.620
though what's the longest uh um or what what's the biggest your roster has ever been um at one time i
00:40:14.080
did have like eight people that i was talking to but it was so tragic like never in my life would i do
00:40:19.620
that again that sounds like a lot of work it was so much work it was so much work it sounds like a
00:40:24.160
full-time job really i mean poor you and then it was like it was like three of them were my sugar
00:40:30.060
daddies so it was like really annoying too because you know they have they like attention it was
00:40:35.060
annoying they were giving you money like they need attention so bad wait you were you were 18 at this
00:40:40.180
time yeah uh and those needy fuckers wait so eight wanting love and attention yeah
00:40:48.400
you were sleeping with all eight of them no only the sugar daddies it was like which was there was
00:40:56.340
three stages more so like think oh no actually i was sleeping with like two of two other ones too
00:41:04.020
so the three sugar daddies and then two other guys so five five yeah girl are you okay please get
00:41:11.040
checked i do guys i just had one on wednesday yeah what was the results i'm clean and they know
00:41:20.900
you're active with like other people yeah okay with it yeah and i constantly get tested like every two
00:41:26.220
weeks oh like wait are you in like the traditional uh corn industry no no no okay but if you have these
00:41:34.840
guys who are quote sugar daddies are you exchanging sex for money um no a lot of them like they just
00:41:43.340
like like someone to talk to and like you know text call whenever they want like take you to dinner
00:41:48.980
buy you stuff and you fill that role and also have sex with them right some of them yeah
00:41:55.500
and they give you money yeah do you ever feel bad about it there is there is a word for that
00:42:04.140
but we'll just leave it there do you ever feel like bad about like because like i feel like a lot
00:42:10.200
of these are just like really sad old men that like never got like a real relationship so they're
00:42:14.720
just paying to have a relationship sometimes i do feel bad but then i find out they have a wife
00:42:20.200
you know so like yeah but some of them i do feel bad for like um isn't that worse i was just
00:42:28.000
how's that better everyone has like their own like they just their own decisions if they want to do
00:42:35.060
it they do it like if anything i feel like that's more sad because it's like you have a wife and you
00:42:39.580
can't even like like what i just don't feel bad because it's like you should know like that you're not
00:42:47.280
anything now like come on you just literally cheated on your wife that's like but what about
00:42:51.900
the ones that didn't cheat on their wives what about the ones that are like just sad them i do
00:42:55.400
feel bad for like they're sad i mean they talk they talk like i try to keep them as much company as i
00:43:02.320
can you know i talk to them and stuff like that ask them about their day like i'll even go like hang
00:43:06.780
out with them go to um like lunch and dinners and stuff but it benefits you so that's why you're doing
00:43:11.840
it right yeah he's happy like he's paying for it so he's obviously happy do you cut them off after
00:43:19.020
you find out that they were married yeah okay yeah how do you find these men and what's the oldest one
00:43:26.600
been um oh that's a good question so i use um seeking arrangements oh yeah um and like other ones
00:43:36.100
two and i think the oldest one i've been with is like 70 yeah did you always anticipate this wait
00:43:43.420
70 yeah did you sleep with the 70 year old with the 70 year old
00:43:48.440
did you anticipate this lifestyle for yourself when you were younger and growing up yeah actually
00:44:00.000
i always knew like i don't know i just always knew like i was just gonna use the fact that i'm a girl
00:44:05.960
thinking as you should come on now i always do that and then like also it's super in like an easy
00:44:12.380
way because i'm not gonna lie i i can be a lazy person like i don't like a night like working you
00:44:17.860
know so it's just easy and then i want to go to school you're lazy so go to school yeah so you're
00:44:24.220
lazy so you just let guys buy you shit and you have sex with them essentially is that pretty
00:44:30.160
is that a good summary like did i summarize that incorrectly yeah if they got money if they got
00:44:37.580
money i'm so i'm so i feel like i feel like young gay men can like a young man could yeah but she's
00:44:44.800
straight so who cares yeah you you said you want to go to school though are you like very good about
00:44:52.660
saving your money that you're making or are you impulsive i'm an impulsive spender yeah
00:45:00.540
i be i like just like to buy stuff anything really what's your favorite purchase you've made um
00:45:08.340
i don't know honestly i just be buying stuff are you happy very happy yeah
00:45:17.520
honestly i love your attitude me too come on y'all get on my girl you love what what about her
00:45:25.000
attitude do you love she just doesn't care that that like people might judge i think it's cool yeah
00:45:29.000
just be completely void of all morality and emotion of any kind but those men don't like just walk and
00:45:35.000
fall onto seeking arrangements like they go on their own they go they sign up oh and i do i never ask
00:45:42.300
for the money you know it's always like i will pay you this that and that if you do that and i just
00:45:48.000
say yes well i feel like you're on seeking so it's kind of established that you're already on there for
00:45:52.820
money so i feel like that's so do you never want like a husband or kids or anything i do one day like
00:45:59.740
like she said like probably my 30s i'll probably settle down
00:46:02.780
metro matt donated thank you metro matt appreciate it man this panel is so choked
00:46:10.660
crayola stock went up not a father in sight and none of them know their ass from their elbow
00:46:16.660
what animal comic-con did you find them men you have to stop subbing to of uh yes the san diego
00:46:24.620
san diego comic-con certainly um uh actually going around the table on this thank you metro matt
00:46:30.660
uh are you guys uh what's your relationship like with your father starting with you i have a
00:46:37.120
fantastic relationship with my dad perfect uh it's good now okay which implies that it wasn't always
00:46:44.680
good yes okay we check in sometimes when's the last time you talked to him
00:46:58.520
uh wait are you are you were you also in the foster system no no okay your parents still together no
00:47:07.880
separated yes okay i'm i'm adopted also adopted ethnicity is chinese and my mom is in kentucky and
00:47:17.860
my dad is in new york and he had visited us but um i don't tend to go to new york too often i don't
00:47:25.140
tend to travel often los angeles is fun wait when you say uh when you were adopted were your adoptive
00:47:33.860
parents together at the time yes i was adopted at 11 months old and they flew to china and got me
00:47:41.220
and then in my sixth grade year is when they divorced who divorced to mutual it was mutual
00:47:52.500
i think my mom yeah so they got a divorce and then she got custody
00:48:00.120
no no no she she got remarried a year after and during this time she had still sort of lived with
00:48:12.620
us but more in the downstairs level like three three tiered house and so my grandma really had the
00:48:20.520
downstairs and she's on my mom's end and so my mom stayed with her and then she got remarried moved to
00:48:29.800
kentucky with her husband and then and then she moved back to nashville and then where was dad and
00:48:37.280
you and all this he he was in our same house that we had been in for basically my whole life until i
00:48:44.580
graduated and then a few more years after that he got remarried and then both of them were kind of
00:48:53.500
absent and my grandparents were like there but also not but at this point we were all pretty much
00:49:00.600
self-sufficient i have four siblings and i'm the youngest so um we were all pretty self-sufficient by
00:49:09.080
then what about you um i have a great relationship with my dad if anything it's my mom you should be
00:49:15.020
worried about oh also parents parents still together yeah no yes oh yeah and well we already talked about
00:49:26.340
yeah uh what about you i have two dads and two moms um and my relationship with my parents is very like
00:49:35.900
weird because i'm a very distant person like i isolate myself so i would say that i have a good
00:49:42.320
relationship with my parents but not really because i don't really check up on them and they
00:49:46.540
don't check up on me um relationship with dad are your parents still together with my dad like i don't
00:49:54.240
i know him and um he was around when i grew up well he was in jail when i was born and for like a year
00:50:03.580
in the first beginning but then he was around all the time and i love him um and then he just
00:50:08.700
disappeared off the face of the earth i know i don't know where he's at right now um you want
00:50:12.660
to go get a pack of smokes that with that type of well actually my mom threw him down the stairs
00:50:17.300
and he never came back so yeah and they're not together i think that's a valid reason but funny
00:50:24.240
thing it's so funny because they had me to get married and never got married they were never really
00:50:30.520
like together like it was just hell of a plan to have a kid in order to get married yeah
00:50:36.180
um the last time i saw my dad was like four years ago okay uh relationship status we didn't get
00:50:45.860
yours um my relationship status i'm single um my longest relationship was literally three months
00:50:52.360
and i ended that in june so you've been single for six months about yeah all right you ended it why
00:50:59.760
did you end it um i was his first ever girlfriend and like i wasn't like i i didn't want to be his
00:51:05.620
everything like his first everything so i was like and i felt like i was self-sabotaging a lot and i
00:51:12.020
felt like i had to be perfect for him so i was just like what do you mean perfect like i felt like i
00:51:18.120
couldn't mess up like i had to do everything right and because like what kind of thing so so i had like
00:51:24.980
ex talking stage that like i was so i he was kind of like i guess i just picked up bad habits and i
00:51:34.260
just i don't know there's a lot i feel like you haven't told me anything here he's like being so
00:51:39.520
minimalistic right now like what is so what you want like what's what types of specific things
00:51:45.480
do you feel like like i don't you don't know i don't know it's okay girl i just felt like i had to do
00:51:54.380
everything right i don't know like i just like what kinds of things though like treat him obviously
00:52:00.140
right and not mess up i don't know like i like what does that entail like he didn't he wanted you to
00:52:05.620
dress a certain way or no this is gonna sound bad but there was just a lot of reasons why i kind of
00:52:13.260
broke up with him another one was like because he low-key was like his mom like he he was like a
00:52:20.160
mama's boy and like she would pay for everything when we'd go out together like her credit card was
00:52:25.880
his and he didn't drive he didn't work and i was just like i felt like nothing but you didn't say
00:52:34.120
that you broke up with him because he didn't drive and he didn't work no there's just a lot he said he
00:52:37.580
broke up with him because he had the expectation of misperfection and i'm just wondering what that looks
00:52:42.360
like like his mom oh no no me and his mom like i loved her but like he would
00:52:50.720
oh there's a girl spill the tea don't let anything hold don't hold anything back he's your ex now you
00:52:59.380
can say whatever yeah i know but i still have feelings for him the plot thickens yeah
00:53:06.180
you still have feelings for this guy who you don't because he wanted you to be better who ain't
00:53:13.480
okay so i was his first ever girlfriend like i i guess people i don't know people say that i'm toxic
00:53:21.920
and i'm like i would always go through like i would check his phone a lot and i felt like i don't
00:53:27.540
were you insecure like checking through his phones and everything like that
00:53:31.500
not insecure i i guess i feel like i always would want to find something and i would never find
00:53:39.140
anything and then because he put you like on this like pedestal right i don't know do you think you
00:53:46.220
put him on a pedestal my last relationships like they basically cheated on me and yeah and so i
00:53:52.900
would just like i feel like i wasn't i guess good enough because i was always getting cheated on and
00:53:58.260
you were just kind of waiting for something but this guy didn't cheat on you right no he didn't
00:54:02.300
cheat on me did you feel like because you were like his first girlfriend and because he was
00:54:07.100
inexperienced that he would like want to go out and like do stuff with other girls or something and
00:54:11.560
so you no i honestly okay because i don't like to be someone's first everything because i don't know
00:54:17.660
how to like tell like i don't know like a lot of pressure like control that and i didn't honestly
00:54:24.140
i didn't want to end up pregnant and i didn't i don't know i don't like inexperienced did you guys
00:54:29.780
like use condoms no we didn't even do anything and it was more like a friendship than a relationship
00:54:35.380
too because we didn't kiss within those three months we didn't even do anything why did you bring
00:54:39.640
up pregnancy then because i think of a relationship like when i'm going into a relationship i think of
00:54:46.440
like marrying like i think of also having kids in my future that's okay i came into this
00:54:51.920
conversation confused and i'm leaving this conversation okay we have a chat yeah we have
00:54:57.760
a chat here from brooks j uh lucy goosey i'm gonna have you read the chance go ahead okay brooks j
00:55:06.900
donated a hundred dollars he said drinking game rules make you a story about them gives them the ick
00:55:12.120
one panelist talks for another laugh without a punchline fixes their hair oh wait is this about
00:55:18.000
me says she's a 10 oh boy this is about to be rough uh where's the rest uh oh oh or was it just dot
00:55:27.160
dot dot thank you brooks j for the uh super chat i do appreciate it guys if you want two hundred dollars
00:55:32.280
for tts one hundred dollars to read uh we typically uh curate those at a later time during the show
00:55:39.380
uh we're gonna get into our first reaction here so uh why don't we do actually let's do uh one of the
00:55:47.420
panelists has a boyfriend application we're gonna review that it's uh it's uh kenna yes it's me
00:55:56.480
let's look at her boyfriend application all right make it bigger for me make it bigger
00:56:02.860
bigger all right this is her boyfriend application looking for a new lover boy
00:56:08.860
um so you wanted where are you from i wrote i was gonna fill it out
00:56:14.200
so you want the instagram how old are you how tall why is it why is it a two there's five oh the five
00:56:23.880
foot ten so is it like so is it if they are shorter than five ten it's disqualified no it's
00:56:30.300
not disqualified i'll just like look at you like last i see okay you uh what kind of job do you have
00:56:37.500
do you like cats do you have yes i have cats multiple yeah i have two cats two cats okay two
00:56:42.980
sons what would you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten there's that okay wait wait wait hang on
00:56:47.460
back up back up it says what is your favorite kind of car yes can you oh i missed that one okay
00:56:53.800
can you name four different kinds of cars yeah go okay ford escort hyundai genesis hyundai genesis
00:57:02.200
coupe no you use a different one um honda accord and um a prius are you dating anybody who drives
00:57:12.160
a honda accord no no of course not okay all right back to it uh scroll down what is your favorite thing
00:57:21.000
to do in your free time do you go to the gym yes no sometimes where do you see yourself in 10 years
00:57:26.940
yeah where do you see yourself in 10 years uh living on a beach in florida all right do you invest
00:57:34.000
your money tell me a joke ad pick if you like okay that's great it wasn't too bad the boyfriend can
00:57:42.140
you tell us a joke no no no um that is interesting do you guys think it's fair that women demand things
00:57:52.180
from men like traits that they don't possess themselves can you elaborate on that well like
00:57:57.900
for example right this this tends to come off uh typically later parts of the show but if we're
00:58:03.300
talking about like body count women have like massive objections to like for example a man who has a high
00:58:08.860
body count stating uh quite emphatically that he prefers women with a low body count or virgins
00:58:14.100
you guys think well that's not fair like here you are with your high body count you are promiscuous
00:58:18.980
but you want to take a non-promiscuous woman you want a virgin that's hypocrisy that's a double
00:58:24.760
standard but i mean well first off when we maybe start there do you guys think that that's uh problematic
00:58:31.280
for a high body count man to be like i only want to date a virgin why is that problematic because it's
00:58:35.920
like you have a high body count and you're expecting your woman to have a low body count that's that's
00:58:41.660
well that's just restating the issue but what's actually problematic about the issue it's just
00:58:45.500
because like he's been sleeping with multiple people like multiple women and then like this girl let's
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say she's only slept with three women i'm not three women um three like men or whatever like and he's
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or no okay let me give like a better example let's just say he had to pick between a girl that had
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like 30 plus body count and then like a three plus body count yeah obviously his body count is probably
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like maybe 40 i want to say let's say it's 60 60 let's say it's 60 right so and he decides to choose
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the girl with the lowest body count and his poor excuse is well like well she has the lowest body
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count she hasn't been sleeping with a lot of women i mean a lot of men what's what's the problem that
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but the thing about it is is like you're it's it's kind of signifying that the other woman is a
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slut and like um like no it's just signifying that he has a preference for women with a lower
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yeah but like he has a high body count so he can still have a preference it's okay i'm not saying
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you can't have a preference or anything but just like to disregard the other woman just because she
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has a higher body count that's that's kind of like upsetting like what if she had a really good
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chemistry what if she had like a really an amazing personality and her body count was just like
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you're like no goal you're no break i could i could say let me ask you a question would you date
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a five foot two man who was bald yes have you yes and what and is your husband a five foot two man
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who's not bald he's not and he's five foot two hang on is he five foot two six foot two so now hang
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on let's back up yeah yeah let's back up let's back up just a little bit here okay so he's six foot
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two has hair even though you would of course date to five and how many five foot two bald men were
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available to you versus six foot two men with hair so the thing hang on answer the question first
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answer the question first that's let me answer your question first i don't really go out that much to
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be seeking not the question i'm asking okay far more five foot two bald men than there are six foot
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two men i just don't know where they they are so for me there actually might be so i
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like six foot two men with hair right yeah but like if a five foot ten man with no hair comes up
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to me and he approaches to me and he's a gentleman and he's very you know um courteous and he like is
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gentle i would go for him but well i mean now we'll never know because you're with a six foot two
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chad with hair right and that's because like that's your preference no no because he aligned with me in
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my life and he just happened to be six foot two how did he have the perfect personality and happen
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to be six foot two that's an amazing what an amazing coincidence i would date like a van diesel
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if i had to hold on i mean van diesel is like the best example of a bald man don't even
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so to to andrew's point here when when we talk about this height thing and a lot of like we've
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asked this all the time and it's like the women will say it's virtue signaling you'll you'll say
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yes oh i would date a short guy i'll date a guy shorter than me but then if you do even the most
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minimal inquisition world how tall were all your boyfriends and they all your boyfriends were above
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the average height of men so the average height is like five nine five ten and these women say oh my
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past three boyfriends were all like six foot in the blood on average it's just like it's kind of
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ridiculous like you say you will but conveniently you've never done it i actually have dated somebody
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who was like my height five foot i'm five five and he was like five five five six so we only been
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speaking to each other for like two years and talking to each other but he's a very busy guy
01:02:20.100
so therefore his did you did you sleep with him well yes of course okay so so so hang on so you slept
01:02:28.500
you slept with this guy now out of this one guy that you slept with yeah if we were to average all
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the men you've ever slept with do they look a bit more like the husband or a bit more like that guy
01:02:38.500
no because my taste in men is very different okay so on average so on average you're sleeping with men
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who are below five foot nine yes really yeah fucking right tell me some more bullshit oh my god i will
01:02:51.340
give you proof i will give you proof if you need it like i'm being so for real because i'm not like a
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surface level all right all right let's find out okay so let's inquire a little bit okay so how many
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men total i you total i have slept with 32 men okay so 32 men now out of the 32 men right and some
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of these i assume are casual yes you're casually hooking up with five foot five dudes yes over the
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six foot dudes because height doesn't matter to me it does not like okay i'm being for real height
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does not matter to me as long as just your age if you're younger than me then it's that's my
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biggest pet but you did conveniently marry someone six foot two it was because actually he's not six
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foot two he um he's between six foot two never mind um you know what what the hell what what just
01:03:42.380
happened i don't know what the hell just happened why is it important it's way too early to have a
01:03:48.300
meltdown in this show okay yeah it's way too early for that so back up for me cheers my like let me
01:03:55.000
drink really quick okay uh so i guess you need to fortify yourself for this so no yes the average
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height that i would normally date a guy is between five foot five to six foot five okay that's the that's
01:04:08.300
like but that is that's not an average it's five ten the average is five okay that makes sense so if
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the average is around five ten yes five ten is much taller than you yes okay so the thing is is
01:04:19.400
like why don't you just want guys your own size um because you have some kind of preference because
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no they got because you got some kind of preference no they have big big um what is it big man
01:04:29.920
small man syndrome or something or tiny dog why'd you look at me and you have hang on hang on and you
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have some kind of preference against that right no because small dog syndrome yeah and you have a
01:04:42.080
preference against that i don't have a preference against then why aren't you dating guys with small
01:04:45.820
dog syndrome because it's just their attitude then you have a preference against that attitude
01:04:50.320
wait can i can so if you have a preference yeah so if you have a preference against that attitude
01:04:54.700
you prefer to not have it so then all you're saying you're just you're just making the same
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argument the guy is where he's like look i just prefer to be with chicks have a lower body count
01:05:03.040
but what but okay so when you're talking about preferences like things i like just things i like
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that's it okay but like like okay so you do you like pizza yeah okay what are the toppings you hate
01:05:16.480
i don't hate any toppings not one not one i could eat pizza anchovies i can eat anchovies yeah
01:05:23.580
okay okay let's try a different way what's your favorite toppings my favorite topping would have to be
01:05:29.940
cheese okay so you you prefer your pizzas to have cheese well don't all pizzas have cheese no
01:05:36.760
so you've had you can have a cheese free pizza i did not know that yeah but anyway but this
01:05:42.220
be sauce and bread i mean that's what like lactose intolerant people get right oh or they get fake
01:05:47.700
cheese or something like this but you have a preference for it or some type of food there's some
01:05:51.820
type of food that you like a certain way like a sandwich what type of sandwich meat do you hate
01:05:56.400
or do you love all that too is there just nothing you won't eat there because i'm an eater i'm a
01:06:00.880
taurus okay so you gotta understand okay well i like food okay taurus what's a food you hate
01:06:05.180
what is a mushrooms okay you hate mushrooms so you have a preference against mushrooms i have a
01:06:09.240
preference against mushrooms now mushrooms won't kill you to eat them right no they won't yeah i just
01:06:12.340
don't like how they taste not yeah okay so that's a preference it's just an i like so when you're
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talking about relationships and guys you're just talking about i likes i dislike i like this i like
01:06:22.400
this i like this mean to just be like what do you mean if a guy were to come up to me and like says
01:06:27.600
uh let's just for example like i said if i my body count is 32 right and there's a girl that has like
01:06:32.920
maybe like what three to five yeah and then he chooses a girl that has less than me and then i
01:06:38.360
ask him okay why did you pick that makes you feel bad it does make you feel bad it makes you feel bad
01:06:42.980
well yeah it makes me feel bad because it's just like but what is he doing that's wrong other than
01:06:46.580
making you feel bad well well one my feelings yeah your feelings but also too like it's like
01:06:56.400
monkey see monkey do type thing yeah like if you have a high body count as a man and i have a high
01:07:02.520
body count as a woman like and we're both having you know intercourse with different people why does
01:07:08.420
my body count is disregarded in your preferences because you don't like it just like you don't
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like mushrooms i have a question for andrew though do you feel like there's an actual difference like
01:07:18.360
could you tell someone's body count before they actually tell you because i feel like people lie
01:07:22.040
about that maybe not maybe not with a lot of people like i just am curious like how that preference
01:07:27.760
works other than like a societal impact i guess it's just a revulsion so it's like here's here's an
01:07:34.420
idea have you ever eaten have you ever eaten dog shit i would not like to why not it's a
01:07:41.700
preference because it's revolting yeah but i but wait a second wait a second couldn't somebody put
01:07:46.600
dog shit in a cake and you wouldn't know it i mean so you could accidentally eat dog shit that's an
01:07:51.820
interesting analogy wait a second you could accidentally hang on i just want an answer you
01:07:56.320
could accidentally eat dog shit yeah you could and that would suck hang on that would suck right
01:08:00.720
so you're saying you could be tricked because you don't know but you're still if you knew
01:08:05.380
that there was dog shit you wouldn't eat the cake would you fair enough okay yeah but also i wanted to
01:08:10.360
say just super quick and we can go back but when you're talking about like men's height versus
01:08:14.800
like women's body count men don't have control over their height they're just born that way they
01:08:18.520
grow they stop growing and then like but like women and men have control over their body count
01:08:23.000
so it's kind of hard to compare those two you have control the way you have control over it with
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how many people you sleep but do you have control over the things you prefer no but i i that's
01:08:32.380
why i checked yes and no on the box because i feel like is it is it hypocritical but you don't
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believe but is it wrong no you can't force somebody to do something wait wait it's not
01:08:42.160
hypocrisy i mean a little bit not even a little bit no no no no hypocrisy people get this wrong
01:08:48.760
although i don't know what so what hypocrisy is is i'm advocating for a thing of which i'm guilty
01:08:54.780
right while telling you right the person that you cannot do said hang on hang on so if you were
01:09:03.100
to say you having a body count is wrong even though i have the same body count right but that's
01:09:08.480
not wrong that would be hypocrisy me saying though i have a high body count and prefer women with a
01:09:13.580
lesser body count is not hypocrisy okay hypocrisy would be because you think it's revolting yeah so
01:09:19.240
imagine it this way but you don't think yourself is revolting yeah hang on hang on imagine it this
01:09:22.600
way let's say there's a fat person on a treadmill they know they're fat they know they're fat and so
01:09:26.520
they're trying to lose weight right they're on the treadmill and they look over at somebody else and they
01:09:30.460
say hey you're fat you should lose weight they're not a hypocrite there's no hypocrisy there the
01:09:36.780
hypocrisy would be if they say if they say hey you're fat right and i'm not that would be that would
01:09:43.120
be like hypocrisy okay yeah yeah wouldn't that be like condescending then it would be both
01:09:48.580
that's but people get hypocrisy wrong all the time they think that that hypocrisy is being guilty of the
01:09:55.560
thing which you're condemning that's not actually what it is it's the belief that the thing in which
01:10:00.040
you're condemning is actually fine there's like a pretense of pretending with hypocrisy
01:10:04.420
so technically a man with a higher body count who prefers a woman with a low body count
01:10:10.040
is a hypocritical man and he prefers to be no he's not he's not a hypocrite there's no hypocrisy we're
01:10:18.280
not going to get anywhere with this line of questioning but i do wonder i feel like you know
01:10:21.560
because we've been talking about the same thing for 10 minutes but i'm not the host so who am i
01:10:25.040
however i i'm curious conversation you're wrecking you're wrecking the whole conversation
01:10:28.860
i'm sorry go ahead go ahead but i am curious because i feel like you don't often see that
01:10:33.400
perspective coming from woman of woman with high body count saying i want a man with a lower body
01:10:36.900
count so i just i'm curious wait why you think that that is oh it's it's actually really simple so
01:10:41.240
the idea of paternity is is something which men only recently could be assured of so the idea that
01:10:50.260
i know that the kid that you have is mine we can now know but that's a very new technology
01:10:57.600
before that how could you know if the child was yours so then would that only apply to situations
01:11:02.700
where you're trying to like date someone to marry wouldn't apply to like a normal hookup
01:11:06.100
you might well no that's all new tech these are all new technologies okay so here's the idea
01:11:12.600
the idea is if you were sleeping with a woman before she's your wife or even she's not your
01:11:18.500
wife how could you assure paternity absent a paternity test by having i guess her only sleep
01:11:24.920
with one person but that implies that you're having a child hang on so hang on so so this would imply
01:11:30.260
that there could be a revulsion mechanism okay a revulsion mechanism around the idea that if
01:11:36.020
a woman is promiscuous that you could not be assured assured paternity and so there's an
01:11:41.480
internal revulsion which happens okay so you're saying it's kind of passed down i think like it's
01:11:45.820
generational well i think i think it's biological okay it's a biological way to create an assurance
01:11:51.040
for paternity interesting so i have a question so basically like what do you think about if a girl
01:11:57.320
is like like let's say she's like 40 or 50 and like she wants to remarry and a guy cares or like
01:12:02.940
let's just say she's 35 she's been with six people but she's had six boyfriends she's been
01:12:08.060
in six relationships where she wanted to get married maybe a guy cheated on her maybe they
01:12:13.000
weren't compatible like but she wasn't promiscuous then does what is that difference than someone who's
01:12:19.140
three well so it's interesting because like uh these red pillars these are like online red pillars
01:12:25.440
who everybody hates so i can't call everybody whores and they actually really don't they actually try to
01:12:30.640
dive into exactly these ideas so the idea let's say you had a woman who had elongated relationships
01:12:37.800
maybe she only had two or three right and they were long-term relationships well that would signify
01:12:42.980
something completely different than a woman who's promiscuous even if the body counts a little higher
01:12:47.680
right so even let's say it's five and 50 years right that's one partner per 10 years right that's going
01:12:53.740
to be a way different story than well not to pick on you right but uh you know 50 or 60 partners in a
01:13:01.700
year that's going to signify a promiscuity issue right and that's also like dangerous to like our
01:13:07.240
bodies i feel like to an extent you should care who you're sleeping with and how many people they're
01:13:12.360
sleeping with and i think that you can change your mind and maybe that's okay if men do want to change
01:13:18.360
your mind like i think that and they do yeah and the thing is is like this happens it's not like
01:13:23.060
there's not you know porn stars out there don't get mr wonderful they do some of them do but mostly
01:13:29.160
they don't yeah and also the idea here is that men do find it they do find it repugnant they do find
01:13:35.340
it repulsive where you think that there's a double standard that could be true right society does judge
01:13:40.540
promiscuous men differently than promiscuous women but that's because of women yeah women judge them
01:13:44.580
differently than men do too that's so true yeah women judge each other more than but do you but
01:13:48.800
think about this but think about why that podcast i think about why that would be why that would be
01:13:52.960
the case it's because you're always assured paternity like you always know who the baby's dad's gonna be
01:13:58.780
they don't know wait so it's not as built in for you to have that revolution i just meant more so
01:14:03.820
like if it's just down to a number right like saying three versus like 10 like if it was you're again
01:14:10.620
35 and you've been in 10 relationships where i feel like well there should be some kind of like
01:14:15.580
but every situation is going to be different when you ask for like a hard cutoff i don't even think
01:14:19.140
we need to give one just make it easy right right everything after one is worse than one everything
01:14:25.100
after zero is worse than zero it's pretty simple right so so it's like well how what's the cutoff is
01:14:32.300
it three is it four is it five who gives a shit ultimately everything after zero is worse than zero
01:14:38.080
everything after one is worse than one everything after two is worse than two right you only really
01:14:43.300
need to think of it that way what other way do we even need to think of it don't think of it
01:14:48.540
but the thing is is like men do think of it well and it also matters because like if you're someone who's
01:14:55.920
had like relations with a lot of people like and i don't know maybe you're someone who doesn't get
01:15:01.380
tested regularly or something and you get with some other person they could contract something you know
01:15:06.420
you don't want someone who's been sleeping around with a bunch of people who you don't know where
01:15:09.560
they've been the only the only problem i i kind of take with this you're right don't get me wrong
01:15:14.780
totally right it's just that it comes from a female perspective so you kind of think about things
01:15:20.800
from the perspective of of women well i am a woman so that would make sense sure sure but but what i'm
01:15:27.600
saying is my challenge is to say to you instead take yourself out of the female perspective put yourself in
01:15:33.680
the male perspective right you will always be assured of paternity you always know it's your kid
01:15:39.460
you will always know that we don't have that luxury right we at least historically we never did
01:15:46.620
only right now do we have that luxury women women in fact beat men up for asking to get a paternity
01:15:53.420
test even though they themselves have absolute knowledge right and it's like it's like so look at it
01:16:00.220
from the perspective of the man for a second i actually have a friend who's going through that
01:16:03.820
right now like wouldn't like i i just to challenge it like it doesn't come down to like if you're
01:16:09.460
like a slut like or not like if you're sleeping around and you wouldn't know versus you're only with
01:16:13.820
that person and you're exclusive and you haven't been with someone since your last relationship i i mean
01:16:18.500
just in my personal i guess views or that it's just different like that i feel like but are you
01:16:25.720
relaying those views to you personally because this is this is uh has something to do with your
01:16:30.020
own personal situation are you uh maybe a little bit but i think that it's wasn't it interesting right
01:16:36.700
it's like think of the question here though take yourself out put yourself in the man's shoes instead
01:16:41.620
relays right back to me my own personal situation then i'll relay it back to the man it's like forget all
01:16:47.240
that just create a blank slate for a second right you're tomorrow you wake up and you're a male
01:16:53.040
right let's look at it from men's perspectives now if you sleep with a woman how are you assured
01:17:00.860
paternity how are you assured that the child is yours what would be the signs you would look for
01:17:04.980
that would frustrate me yeah it's hard to think about that yeah obviously yeah it's super hard to
01:17:10.520
think about right as a woman i all i would say is like oh well just don't sleep with a bunch of
01:17:14.860
right exactly don't sleep with a bunch of women or a bunch of men and then and then there's no
01:17:20.700
problem and that's exactly what men say they say the same thing they're like hey just don't sleep
01:17:24.460
with a bunch of men yeah problem solved what if it's like prior body count and then you're with
01:17:29.160
somebody for an entire like you know couple years or whatever and then like you're the only they don't
01:17:33.880
you're like only person that you're i think that you depend on the person yeah like just like at that
01:17:37.780
point do you think it still matters or would it be i think that i think it's still going to matter
01:17:41.400
to a lot of men yeah interesting i think that they're still going to look at so i mean when we
01:17:45.560
evaluate other people we men especially we tend to look at the total not just looking at the the
01:17:51.700
sort of like individual things it seems to me when i have these conversations with women they look at
01:17:56.860
more individual traits right uh perhaps he's very tall he's a good provider perhaps there's an
01:18:03.520
aggressiveness level they like right there's some sort of they kind of move more towards intuition
01:18:07.960
men aren't doing that looking at it like a fucking accountant right they take the total and
01:18:12.940
they're like well she's hot and she's this and she's got a low body count and blah blah blah she
01:18:17.460
checks all the boxes all right let's go right that's that's literally how they view it they view
01:18:21.820
it a completely different way than women do they're not really looking at it intuitively
01:18:25.360
because is it more of a like a logical or analytical completely of course yes it's literally an
01:18:31.080
an analysis they're doing an analysis and so what like this whole manosphere space was or the
01:18:37.060
whole red pill space it still is the idea is just if you're going to if men are going to make this
01:18:41.660
analysis how do we inform it like how do we inform that analysis so they're making a good one well
01:18:47.260
the thing is like women are so like we're so like emotionally drived driven drived drived driven
01:18:53.380
jesus that big fail on that that was a massive hell that was incredible wow
01:19:00.500
we're emotionally driven creatures so we don't so a lot of the time we kind of forget to think about
01:19:09.060
the logic because we're so emotional like so caught up in our emotions but what about the man
01:19:13.240
can the man be more emotional can he well there are there are circumstances we're probably
01:19:17.880
biologically biologically speaking women are more emotional because we have estrogen men have
01:19:23.420
testosterone so we're gonna be more emotionally inclined we have the maternal instinct so i mean
01:19:30.660
i don't know it's but can a man look at it at a situation for example paternity tests
01:19:37.060
whatever can he look at it rather from an uh an emotional standpoint than an yes we call those
01:19:42.420
men simps so the thing is just like yes a man can become overly emotional and he can let his little
01:19:51.600
brain override his big brain right and but real men do math some yes some some men do do that and but
01:19:58.340
the thing is men now are trying to police it up right so they're like you fucking simp stop doing that
01:20:04.760
what are you doing right this is terrible for you it's terrible for her it's terrible for the world
01:20:09.240
stop it right they're actually making a concerted effort to police that shit up women aren't really
01:20:15.040
making in fact they're doing the opposite they're like you go girl girl power get your thing on
01:20:20.200
encourage whatever it is that you want to do you know there's no real effort there to police the
01:20:24.800
behavior up for men there is one there's a concerted effort to try to do that but why would why would
01:20:30.460
you want to why can't a man be more emotionally in tune with his emotions why do they have to be
01:20:36.960
policed well i mean so here's the thing um you like all the modern luxuries that you have you like
01:20:45.100
your lighting and you like your your vehicles and you like your roads and you like all those things
01:20:49.400
i just want to let you know that there's men right now who are aggressively murdering people in
01:20:54.300
their sleep to make sure that that all happens for you aggressively right the second as we speak
01:20:59.160
some american soldier somewhere stabbing some dude in the throat promise you don't know where it is
01:21:04.480
but i promise you it's happening right he's not going to be very emotional about that and you don't
01:21:09.940
really want him to be very emotional about that and women don't really want emotional men they kind of
01:21:14.320
pretend they do right they want to kind of they want i i think at least this is my opinion i think that
01:21:21.380
they want the man that they really like to show some emotion to them but they don't really like when the
01:21:28.100
man that they have is showing a lot of emotion to other people in other words they don't want to
01:21:33.420
bitch okay that actually makes sense i can see your standpoint on that one i disagree we got a
01:21:42.340
couple chats here we have techno trooper thank you man uh luce i'll have you read these in the recent
01:21:47.660
possible ban of tiktok should of be the next ban is of fueling exploitation under the guise of
01:21:54.340
empowerment boy that's a question that's gonna be a brutal one brian to dive right into oh yeah we
01:22:00.220
i don't want to linger too long on porn bad convo just because it's not super interesting but um
01:22:07.980
who here's in favor of a tiktok ban look he has ruining my life
01:22:14.240
oh look at oh look at that moon boy it's right over wait can you guys see it full moon or almost
01:22:20.180
i prefer i prefer not to have a tiktok ban only because i like all my lunatics in one place
01:22:26.280
they're gonna spread out the same thing as instagram yeah well the problem is is they're
01:22:33.260
just gonna go to another platform yes and be just as insane on that planet it's like we know where
01:22:37.920
all the insane people are just leave them there they did that with vine yeah they did do that with
01:22:42.300
right uh so uh of girls should it be banned what do you think i mean i think on social media i think
01:22:51.980
like if people want to do that like but on the kids are on these apps like there's children that
01:22:56.840
get promoted this is very young ages so i think that um tiktok is very catered to children and
01:23:03.240
you're lying if you're saying they're not having accounts that say 18 plus and parents aren't able
01:23:07.600
to monitor it so i think that it's just to make it platform like you know what i mean like just to
01:23:13.820
an extent like it's it's it's better to just take it off like social media so that kids are protected
01:23:18.980
i 100 agree i have seen a full chocolate starfish on my tiktok for you page did not want to see
01:23:25.340
that what does that mean that's fucking disgusting but wait why would that bother you like don't you
01:23:32.480
that was like the best possible way you could have responded to that
01:23:41.280
the same reason it bothers her i don't want children to scroll past that oh okay because
01:23:50.000
even if you do say oh i'm 18 plus you just press a button you could be 11 and say oh i'm 18 plus and
01:23:56.660
it's just their parents account or whatever the same thing happens with only fans there's no doubt
01:24:01.760
my mind that that happens with only but isn't it the parents like responsibility for monitoring
01:24:06.020
you cannot monitor that much you cannot you literally shouldn't have phones yeah if you if
01:24:14.500
you're if you can't if you can't monitor your child's like screens or whatever they shouldn't
01:24:19.200
have screens what happens if your child is 16 and runs away because you monitored their phone
01:24:24.900
yeah exactly my parents fucking monitored the shit out of my phone and it made me
01:24:29.780
turbo slut for a year but like a form of revenge i've been i've been in a an environment of in a
01:24:38.840
sexual environment for a very long time and i saw pornography when i was really young so okay
01:24:44.700
sorry i'm moving that shit on sorry you just sorry to the wrong place can you read this please uh
01:24:51.160
why is it so difficult for these gals to accept that attraction triggers and reproductive strategies
01:24:55.620
between men and women are asymmetrical our ontology slash intrinsic hardwiring is vastly different it's
01:25:01.040
true that's true the basis of the very being of what is one this is why like the rad turfs you've
01:25:07.120
seen the rad turfs the trans exclusionary radical feminists like jk rowling and those the reason
01:25:13.780
the reason that they're so upset about the entire trans phenomenon is based on this particular
01:25:20.920
argument they're saying what is a woman is no you can't just you men can't just come in and take that
01:25:26.340
from us because there's something that's special about it and unique about it a woman is a human
01:25:30.740
female person yeah yeah i get it but but leaving but leaving that aside for a second to the point of
01:25:36.700
ontology or the the the like being or essence of a thing right when you're talking about what that is
01:25:42.260
with a woman it does seem like there is something to that actually i i agree with that because i have
01:25:48.420
seen that i think they did some brain scans or something and they show that people who like for
01:25:54.220
example there's a man and he he identifies as a woman or she identifies as a woman whatever um
01:26:00.140
they scan the brain and he has the brain matter of a woman yeah all the brain all the brain scan stuff
01:26:08.540
is total bullshit i don't know well i mean i don't know i'm not a scientist i don't know but the thing
01:26:12.640
is when you're talking about ontologies like this is the philosophical um diving into a being of what
01:26:19.000
being is so do do women have a different being than men do yeah i think they do i think there is
01:26:25.980
a lot of distinctions between men and women well that's why i brought up a base level yeah yeah but
01:26:31.660
it's not it's not just the idea of the biology itself but the essence of the thing i i i think
01:26:39.120
that's such an interesting topic to talk about because that could be true but i think that there
01:26:44.020
is a pretty large chunk of it that is societally based and i think i almost wonder if we didn't
01:26:49.400
raise boys and girls differently if that sort of i because a lot of brain like a lot of brain
01:26:54.860
activity is pattern recognition so i think that if people weren't didn't grow like grow up to think
01:26:59.860
oh boys should be thinking this way and girls should be thinking this way that there would be
01:27:03.960
more similarities i mean of course there are physical similarities i'm sorry differences
01:27:07.560
that are hard to beat you can't doesn't you can't change that sort of thing like my muscle mass is
01:27:12.240
nowhere near um and then but but i do feel like there's got to be some sort of societal value to
01:27:18.380
that as well well yeah think about like well let's let's explore it for just a quick second
01:27:22.900
if this is true if you think that there's there's so you're talking about nature versus nurture here
01:27:29.160
yeah okay which is fine we can dive into it but if you're talking about the nurture part you really
01:27:34.680
don't have the upper hand in that conversation because where's all the female oil rig workers
01:27:38.900
where's all the line workers hang on where's all the where are all the female engineers who work in
01:27:44.240
applied engineering they're they're nowhere when offered the choice in the egalitarian nations
01:27:49.420
like this one they still move towards the same oppressive jobs they had pre-enlightenment so
01:27:55.780
there's still teachers right especially preschool teachers they're still moving towards secretarial
01:28:00.920
work they're still moving towards that interestingly enough that that seems to actually give the case
01:28:05.800
to me that wait there seem to be distinct differences that aren't just social because once there's no
01:28:13.000
barrier to entry you're still doing the same shit you're doing before the society changed radically
01:28:18.180
in order to accommodate you i think that you can think that if you want to but i do believe that
01:28:23.200
there is some sort of block you know like that you might say that there's no barrier for a woman to
01:28:27.820
enter those kind of fields but there is well getting like i guess there's what would stop you from
01:28:32.900
working on an oil rig tomorrow well i mean i'm sure that some people do choose that if they want to
01:28:37.520
live that kind of life where you're very like isolated from other people but i think that when you say
01:28:41.480
that like women aren't engineers i think that that's just kind of applied i'm talking about applied
01:28:46.060
applied so like when you when you're talking about engineering it's wide and it's encompassing
01:28:50.200
encompassing well i don't know you're talking about applied i'm talking about you take your hands
01:28:54.240
and you build shit i do think that there are a lot of women who maybe would be interested in
01:28:59.360
joining the construction like field and that sort of thing where applied engineering what's the
01:29:02.620
barrier i think that the barrier is that they they're they're kind of pushed out of those
01:29:06.340
rules i think that like the government incentives are there for those no there's no government but it's
01:29:10.440
like the people who own the businesses we're aren't going to hire a girl they're going to take one
01:29:13.800
good look at me and think well you're not going to be useful to me are they wrong i disagree i think
01:29:17.660
that if you work hard at something you can be good do you think that you're going to be as good as a
01:29:20.560
man roofing i i think so you think so well i mean if i if i learn how to do it can we can we do
01:29:26.140
one million hang on can we do this can we do this then right here on whatever i'll put a thousand
01:29:30.880
bucks down i'll come in tomorrow okay you can come in tomorrow right and we'll just have two little
01:29:35.560
bird houses and we can roof them okay i'm so down i'm gonna watch a youtube tutorial i'm gonna be so
01:29:41.780
good wait i'm i can't i know i know but but you're gonna have to use actual shingles on these
01:29:47.440
great i'll bring my gloves okay but you gotta bring a thousand bucks oh i don't have wait oh
01:29:52.080
whoa whoa i thought this was your thousand bucks i don't have a thousand dollars
01:29:54.880
wait wait wait wait wait this should be the easiest thousand bucks you ever made you should
01:30:01.660
just bluff it yeah but do you know anything about roofing yes so then you're that's immediately
01:30:06.580
unfair because you already have experience i thought you just got done telling me that if you went
01:30:10.280
i said if i applied i thought you just said if you went applied as a roofer that you would be just
01:30:14.060
as useful as the people who were there roofing if i had interest in roofing and if i had experience
01:30:20.640
she could i'm just like i don't have any you don't have any interest in roofing i i mean i am
01:30:28.180
learning how to build houses right now literally in school so i would ideally have an interest you're
01:30:33.780
well you're learning how to design houses in school no but you learn the construction of it all as
01:30:37.800
well you're you're it's not just like the aesthetic parts of it architectural engineering is a real
01:30:42.640
thing i'm taking there's only two okay so do you are you looking for um when you're talking about
01:30:48.720
architecture you're looking for commercial are you looking for residential i'm primarily residential
01:30:53.060
perfect there's only two colors of wire that go to a power you know those little sockets in the
01:30:58.920
wall two colors that's electrical what are they what are they what are the two colors i don't know i
01:31:04.340
haven't gotten there yet dude i just started i just started i'm not going to act like i know
01:31:07.660
everything about architecture i just started it's two colors it's two is it blue and red
01:31:13.140
i'm just that's you you yes i was going to say black and white but i have no idea
01:31:18.960
i was going to say red and yellow right but i feel like we were talking about roofing one second
01:31:25.260
ago now we're talking about electrical that's different you hire an electrical engineer to do
01:31:29.400
but wait you said you're an architect i'm not i'm not an architect yeah but you're studying it
01:31:34.220
you said a part of that is studying construction big part of construction is knowing basic electrical
01:31:39.540
uh you leave space for the electrical work to be done you have to know where it has to hook up oh no
01:31:45.180
there isn't a construction worker you hire somebody else planet earth not a construction worker on
01:31:49.280
planet earth that doesn't know basic electrical not one probably basic yeah absolutely i'm not what i
01:31:53.160
just said was basic but i'm not going to be a construction worker i'm going to be an architect
01:31:56.580
so it's totally different yeah yeah so not a construction worker no yeah did you get that
01:32:03.300
where you wanted that to be metro matt donated two hundred dollars thank you metro matt men will
01:32:08.440
continue clearly defining what they want and women will continue disregarding it stop being
01:32:13.840
slopes be a good person and take care of your man there is nothing more to it uh metro matt thank you
01:32:20.440
for the big two hundred dollar tts really appreciate it man and then we do have i'm gonna lose i'm gonna
01:32:24.420
have you read this one from lucas this is kind of like part two from his previous one thank you
01:32:29.480
much i appreciate it lucas thank you for the hundred dollar stream labs message so yes double
01:32:36.500
standards exist but i assure you that double standards go both ways for that matter the litmus
01:32:40.980
test criteria for women are far more extensive see dr bus slash messin and why women have sex i haven't
01:32:47.260
read that thank you lucas for that appreciate the uh the message did you have more for lucy goosey on
01:32:54.100
the uh construction stuff i think i think she got it right just in the future you can always think
01:32:59.480
of it as the whites and blacks are always fighting in the green state neutral oh it would be helpful
01:33:03.460
for you i'm serious that's how they think of it in the neutral you know that's gonna come in handy
01:33:07.900
when i get to that chapter i'm gonna be like wait a minute in any case uh so the the idea here what
01:33:15.960
all i'm saying to you is is that no you're not you're not in construction is the reason you're not in
01:33:21.280
construction because there was some social barrier against it or is the reason you're not in
01:33:25.860
construction is because you you know you weigh like a hundred pounds and you ain't gonna get up
01:33:30.420
on a fucking roof and shingle a roof because you will literally die of a heat stroke in two hours
01:33:35.740
yeah well i yeah i feel like that's fair like me personally i'm not going to be doing that probably
01:33:40.700
but when i like i am i think we talked about this last time a little i don't know if you were
01:33:44.720
present when we were talking about it but david was brian why do i keep calling you david what's wrong
01:33:50.080
with me there's something clinically wrong with david too i'm not gonna lie okay anyway but um
01:33:54.820
one of the projects that me and my family ideally are working on and part of the reason i'm doing
01:33:59.720
drafting first things first instead of some of the other classes that i'm gonna have to take
01:34:03.360
is because we bought property just blank slate of land and we're gonna want to build something on it so
01:34:08.080
when we do start doing that we're probably not likely going to be hiring a lot of people to come
01:34:13.200
in so i will have my point my point is when you're talking about nature versus nurture
01:34:17.600
right the reason that we see even though there's no barrier to entry for these jobs for women
01:34:23.320
why do you think they're still going for the secretarial work why do you think they're still
01:34:27.060
going for the clerical work probably because of men like you who think that that's the spot that
01:34:30.660
they should be in who's forcing them to do it society how i don't know if it's forcing i don't
01:34:35.800
think that's the right word to use then how then i then i and then at that point it's preference
01:34:39.680
and you're right like i don't mean how how is society forcing women to do anything i don't think
01:34:44.340
that everyone's being forced technology social media instagram tiktok and well hold on how about
01:34:49.440
why don't you explain because you said or unless you were joking you said it's men like andrew that
01:34:54.740
are was it forcing women no no no no that that believe that there's certain spots and like places
01:35:01.340
in society that women should be like teaching and secretaries so even if even if what an insane
01:35:06.880
person i am no i don't know i was front line fighting forces of the united states it should be men
01:35:12.200
there killing our enemies and not women getting captured by that then you cannot use that as a
01:35:16.920
like as a oh gotcha women aren't in the military so women can't do xyz if you genuinely believe that
01:35:22.100
men are the only ones that should be doing that why because if you think that they're the only ones
01:35:26.020
and you can't be like oh well women don't fight in wars because you don't even want them to
01:35:28.860
they don't fight in them they're in support roles i just i just like that cannot be true
01:35:33.460
well it is true there's so many women in the military you're telling me none of them are on
01:35:39.960
the lines well so i mean men men need to have people really cook food and i didn't know the
01:35:45.120
more you know so no women are not allowed in frontline combat i did not know that's interesting
01:35:49.700
do you know is that like a is that has that been a forever thing or is that like no women actually
01:35:54.680
feminists have been trying to be down the door to uh get rid of this policy right and as it turns out
01:36:02.280
women don't want to go fight in wars what a shock everybody is so shocked by the fact that women
01:36:08.660
don't want to go pick up an m16 we also don't want to go to the front line that goes back to
01:36:13.580
nurture though it's like i feel like there's more of i guess a natural instinct for men to have to
01:36:20.260
take out their you know anger whatever in something like violence whereas women wouldn't always go to
01:36:26.780
violence as much as men do but it's they like psychological warfare man women are like we're up here
01:36:32.120
twisting your mind but isn't it interesting that if you could psychologically get a man to conduct
01:36:37.160
violence on your behalf that is still something that women like to watch is the the the exit of
01:36:42.400
the violence well then why why conduct it to begin with exactly because love and peace but you just
01:36:47.400
got done saying women do well i i wasn't sure i just i know that i've seen women in like military
01:36:52.480
uniforms so i was just like well what well yeah they're in support roles sure and uh but not in like
01:36:57.900
hand-on-hand well they're not supposed to be there have been women who have been in combat
01:37:02.040
right but it that wasn't supposed to be how it worked who said who's supposed to like you could
01:37:07.880
be a helicopter pilot in a support role who's a female pilot and crash land behind enemy lines now
01:37:12.700
you're in combat that can't happen but that's not and i can shingle roofs yeah that's not it's not
01:37:17.940
the intention like get do construction are you being serious like you think women are fighting
01:37:22.680
because they want to do construction like i don't know i just don't mean yeah i don't think
01:37:26.840
that i've met a single girl who's like physically wants to do any of those things it women just i
01:37:34.300
mean i'd go a step further and say can't yeah i mean we'd be struggling like for the same guy could
01:37:41.940
do it i had to build a table right i was on this tv show called fish tank but they literally so i got
01:37:47.740
punished one day for no reason i think the audience just wanted me to do it um every season someone has
01:37:52.600
to build a table and when i tell you like i almost had a mental breakdown i had to sit by myself they
01:37:57.600
gave me a saw and some nails and i'm like i don't know what the fuck to do like it's just just because
01:38:03.080
i don't want to do it like i don't think any any of those girls didn't want to do it the guy would
01:38:07.940
have been like oh sick i could build but you have to understand that that was because of the social
01:38:11.480
structures and the social the social engineering it was the social engineering from the evil patriarchy
01:38:17.520
but i'm saying women naturally aren't like because biologically they don't i don't think
01:38:22.840
biologically it's a combination i think of biological because they don't have any interest in it yeah
01:38:27.560
like look you can reduce the thing is is like if we had if we were in the case where
01:38:33.240
you couldn't go get a job at an oil rig right and there wouldn't be a million government incentives
01:38:39.180
to make sure that you were on an oil rig as rosie the riveter with flexing that muscle you know what
01:38:47.440
i mean pumping that oil and you can get that one shot at the camera and be like i did that it would
01:38:52.700
be a feminist fucking dream yeah okay they would love it they would adore it it would be a massive
01:38:57.580
photo op it would be great by the way they would love to have uh double the workforce because then
01:39:02.340
they could have the wages okay if they had 50 percent more applicants who were women than men i really
01:39:07.300
like your slippery slope fallacy you're doing right there's no slippery slope okay what i'm what's
01:39:11.720
the fallacy the slippery slope you're like well if then if women go down the oil rigs then there's
01:39:16.040
gonna be to have 50 percent of the workforce and then the wage is gonna go down slippery slope and
01:39:20.240
i'll explain why okay please okay so if you and i are both qualified for the same job okay and we both
01:39:26.480
go and we apply for that job the employer has more or less negotiating power than only if one of us
01:39:32.580
apply for that job sure does he have more or less more he has more negotiating power okay so that's
01:39:39.360
if any like two male so then if you're an oil rig operator right and women are capable of doing this
01:39:44.940
job just like men why wouldn't you want a ton of women to apply for this job even though it would
01:39:49.640
give you way more negotiating power of a wages wait i used i i was i'm a little bit confused did you
01:39:55.840
say between like if a male applicant and a female no just it wouldn't even matter if they're male or
01:40:00.500
female or two females or two males if two people apply for a job versus one does the employer have
01:40:05.900
more or less negotiating power more more so then that would mean that if you were the oil rig operator
01:40:13.300
you if women could do that job you would actually want a ton of them to apply because then they have
01:40:19.380
more negotiating power over the wages right i guess so then if that if that stands to reason
01:40:25.320
how in the world why would oil rig operators be suppressing women away from oil rig work i just
01:40:31.340
don't know if anybody really dreams of working on an oil rig men are male or women oh no no no
01:40:35.360
there's men who love that shit they live for it they're called roughnecks they love nothing more
01:40:41.180
than to go work on fucking oil rigs all day long every day they can't wait they dream of that shit
01:40:46.780
they're 16 years old and they're like i'm gonna be on an oil rig when i'm 19 baby and i'm gonna make that
01:40:51.040
living for us i'm not kidding their dad i want to build a table i want to build i want to build a
01:40:56.560
table libertariate donating two hundred dollars architecture equals construction knowing how to
01:41:06.520
draw a map that balances loads is different from actually building something that's like saying a
01:41:11.920
naval architect can weld a submarine it's true yes sort of but i also feel like that's a completely
01:41:18.540
different industry like not different industries are a different trade welding but also the ideally
01:41:24.360
ideally your architect knows how to build a house so it won't fall down so they have to have a pretty
01:41:28.720
darn good understanding can i ask you a question actually can i ask everyone a question is that okay
01:41:32.560
yeah no okay how many people here can lift over 150 pounds what does that have to do with anything
01:41:39.440
no it actually does oh wait a woman do not like 150 pounds like you know uh like what are those
01:41:47.060
binge pressing like whatever like you can lift it up well how many people here can buy yourself
01:41:55.100
here here this is better how many people here can just lift more than 75 pounds i for sure can
01:42:01.100
really i have to do my job i've picked up my boyfriend really yeah how much does he weigh okay
01:42:07.800
145 how much no no no he's more like 138 and how much do you weigh 120 oh wait wait 115 wait wait hang
01:42:17.100
on did you do the thing where you grab the midsection and then use your whole back to pull back with
01:42:21.780
leverage i use my knees you pick them up with your knees i i lift what you lift with your knees so you
01:42:27.480
don't fuck up your back yeah i get that but that doesn't that doesn't actually always increase your
01:42:32.100
lift power that's fair that's fair enough okay um but my point was none of you can work construction
01:42:39.260
then because you have to be able to lift a certain amount in order to can i answer your point because
01:42:44.320
literally imagine this right you're any of you put yourself in issues you want to wake up at five in
01:42:50.140
the morning you want to go be outside in the sun all day long for 15 up to 15 16 hour days lifting
01:42:57.720
things all day sweating literally you think that women naturally would ever naturally go to that
01:43:04.580
is it's harder for us there might be one weightlifter girl who would be like yeah that's cool but she's
01:43:10.300
not going to do that she's going to be these modern bras they can't hardly bring the iced tea to the
01:43:14.400
workers without going it's so hot out here literally like what the fuck you know what i mean
01:43:18.380
it's just insane this yellow jacket's so ugly you live two things you're like yeah i did that
01:43:27.020
did you guys see that i lifted it i mean if you were raised by like a single father and like your
01:43:32.520
father taught you how to do construction i'm sure it's not about knowing how to do it we can know
01:43:37.480
how to do it and not be strong enough to do it and my point is not that it can't happen we can't
01:43:41.820
pick you but we we can't physically be able to do the same things as a man where again it might take
01:43:47.180
us two hours to do the same thing a guy can do exactly because of our physical ability yeah but
01:43:53.040
that doesn't mean that you there's not like people there's not women that have those physical there
01:43:57.880
might be one just because you're incapable i don't know one single girl i don't in my whole life i
01:44:04.180
don't know one single girl who was like daddy my dad is construction by the way going on over here
01:44:09.520
you are way way more capable than i think or you think you you are way more capable of doing these
01:44:15.820
things than you actually are of doing these things says you i have i have fucking eyeballs
01:44:22.860
you weigh 90 pounds you're not getting on a roof and shaming it it's fucking crazy like i have
01:44:29.060
eyeballs how about we do this she's like look at me i did this crazy so this is what we're gonna do
01:44:35.680
this is what like lucy girl there look there's roofing companies in santa barbara i'm gonna maybe
01:44:40.680
they can reach out you're gonna apply me i'm gonna have you do a day with the roofing company
01:44:44.960
we're gonna film we're gonna film it okay how much am i getting paid for the same day okay then you
01:44:50.400
you have to challenge them to learn that's what i'm saying what makes you capable but can you lift
01:44:54.880
175 pounds andrew yes no are there yeah any uh yes i can company any roofing company owners in santa
01:45:03.340
barbara who yeah but i know but i'm not just talking about me i'm saying that there probably
01:45:06.920
are women who do want to do it yeah where probably i don't know very small nowhere just like i've
01:45:13.120
never heard of one woman again again here here it stands to reason if it was the case that women
01:45:18.820
were as capable of doing these jobs as men are right you claim no it's a show it's a social stigma
01:45:24.120
from a business owner's perspective if they get way more leverage in negotiating if they have more
01:45:30.100
applicants why the fuck wouldn't they want women who are just as capable to apply for those jobs
01:45:34.540
also sorry but like diversity hires probably because of stereotypes like they probably think
01:45:38.840
oh well they probably think what you think oh well this woman she's skinny she's might she might not
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be able to like live she might not be able to get it they care about money i know but they don't
01:45:46.120
want to pay that same person more if they think that they're going to take longer to do things
01:45:49.100
by you applying they necessarily have the leverage to pay everybody less
01:45:52.760
they can necessarily pay everybody less so private chat yeah uh we have a message here
01:46:01.760
from lucas go ahead lucy goosey read this please look at the scandinavian countries the more they
01:46:06.300
tried to equalize stem professions through government policy the larger the job choice
01:46:10.700
chasm between men versus women by the way 97.2 percent of roofers in the u.s are men so there we go
01:46:16.860
that's not a hundred that's not a hundred that's not a hundred wait wait wait wait wait a minute
01:46:23.360
yeah how many of them are um women who are applying who are classified as women who are male at birth
01:46:33.620
i had a friend who did that i had a friend who did that i can't know that but we'll just grant for
01:46:40.960
you we'll just grant for you that there's some women who can do some of these jobs nobody's disputing
01:46:45.380
that and it was never in dispute nobody's disputing that there's not some women who can
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pull up the image pull up the image uh wait a minute i'm only getting 77 as many carrots as you're
01:46:59.260
getting anti-femme comics guys on twitter w all right we have another chat here lucy goosey go ahead
01:47:09.640
read it lucy the plural of woman is woman woman is woman please don't trigger andrew i'm sorry if
01:47:16.580
my accent isn't good enough for you he's very sensitive also esl is rough english as a second
01:47:23.220
language is uh libertariat do appreciate it also sometimes what they'll do with these like
01:47:29.700
construction stats is like the woman is the accountant for the construction company but you're
01:47:36.560
just assuming that no no we've i'm saying in the stats oh he's a professional guys that is the
01:47:42.920
case well i mean would you like to see the stats no i don't want to talk about this anymore
01:47:47.480
now now suddenly when you're going to just date it no i'm gonna we're gonna roof this birdhouse
01:47:53.800
tomorrow okay and then we'll talk and then i will concede if i need to like a woman oh do you want
01:47:59.380
me to go dude what is your freaking problem yeah that would be even better let's just go do roofing
01:48:03.880
that was his idea why are you guys making fun of me hello no no if lucy should do roofing then you
01:48:15.540
should be able to take care of like a baby for like oh no a man who's taking care of multiple babies
01:48:21.720
is not going to be able to take care of a baby oh well but like there's a lot of men out there that
01:48:26.300
don't really raise children wait what they can't yes you're right i think they can't say woman i think
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that you guys are just you for one day for one day i'll have to take care of a baby instead of
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or my entire adult life i know i mean try it just try it for a day can you know
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i have many children i have many children and were you there in their lives yes i'm having so much
01:48:51.040
were you participating with your wife 50 50 like taking care of them changing the diapers taking
01:48:55.880
them to school no no no first of all back up now when you say 50 50 when you're talking about the
01:49:01.400
health and welfare of the kid no of course she has a different role than i do does that mean i can't
01:49:06.400
take care of a baby of course not so you wait so you you can't you can't take care of a baby
01:49:13.300
i just said i can easy you can take care of a baby yes okay and so lucy can roof yeah let's find
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out how good lucy does who said i could take care of a baby first of all let's backtrack
01:49:23.940
do not leave a baby in my possession i'm not it's gonna cry i'm gonna get that it's not
01:49:28.760
okay throw a baby in the trash can we have a first reaction to get to uh let's do the uh russia
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versus usa video america versus one sec guys we're getting this pulled up thank you for uh was there
01:49:45.000
another one no we're good uh okay uh go ahead play it america versus russia asking men if they
01:49:53.020
would provide for their woman well just depends you know number one why would i what what is she
01:50:01.440
doing while i'm working you know it it's kind of like each relationship now is a 50 50.
01:50:08.800
if it's my wife then yes because i'm multiply responsible for her if it's a wife it's about
01:50:19.420
family and children and ideally she should dedicate 100 of her time to raising them well i mean i would
01:50:26.340
want it to be 50 50. that's the current situation basically if she doesn't feel like working if she
01:50:33.160
doesn't feel like self-actualizing and she's comfortable being provided for then why not i
01:50:37.340
can afford it would um i would probably inspire her to work just so i can see that there is a motive
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going in her future i'm happy with mine i live with my girlfriend and i provide for her
01:50:48.200
she has to carry out other things and the man always provides for her okay hey um so your guys is
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so that's comparing you know the russian men versus the usa men your reaction go ahead
01:51:00.820
i mean um like i mean it's it's different societies the russia versus the u.s is completely
01:51:09.320
yeah do you think uh american men should be more like russian men well i think it's just different i
01:51:14.000
think there's a lot women have a lot more um i guess like i want to say freedoms i feel like to do
01:51:20.180
things that they're passionate about but it's interesting because i feel like there's a weird like there's a
01:51:25.680
standard for women here but at the same time there's like those same guys are saying well it
01:51:29.700
should be 50 50 but they also probably expect that woman to like cook clean raise kids but i don't know
01:51:36.340
i feel like in russia it's just different the the woman over there they don't they're not like
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probably gonna have the same opinion as me where they want to be in that role like it was kind of
01:51:44.760
like how we were talking about last time i was like hey man if you want to be a traditional wife
01:51:47.800
that is so your prerogative but i don't want to do that so i guess in the u.s it's just different
01:51:53.100
there's a little bit more opportunity to not follow a traditional role sure what about you
01:51:58.160
your reaction um i feel like it's kind of disappointing because like i have dated guys
01:52:03.520
that expect you to do everything uh and and work i've had to cook clean and work uh while also
01:52:12.700
expected to be in a good mood 24 7 um and so it's disappointing because like society in america has
01:52:18.960
changed we it used to be a little different now no one's getting married and for the women who do
01:52:23.680
want that it sucks because yeah i would want a man i date to at least want to try to provide for me
01:52:28.960
i feel like with um trying to ideally make the pathway to owning a house and having a stable life
01:52:41.140
and family it's really challenging to do that and i don't want to be like in this economy but um in
01:52:48.720
this economy i feel like it's um hard for it to really be only one person working do i think it's
01:52:56.260
a hard balance to navigate because like i have days where i work my nine to five and then i come home and
01:53:03.980
i'm super tired but i love a cute lady to cook me up a meal and just eat it and call it a day yes i
01:53:11.520
would love that but um i like take on those challenges in my own life and um i feel like it's
01:53:19.740
just a really hard balancing act in the sense of balancing it out in my life i feel like i would like
01:53:27.400
to be more of the home body in a way but do i think that's like possible in my life and how people
01:53:37.060
view things no okay um i think this is where it's hard because like as you said like it's different
01:53:44.640
societies right they're completely different countries so they have different standards for
01:53:49.320
certain things um but i do think that the the russian mentality was um actually kind of interesting
01:53:56.100
because um i feel like that used to be like how america was was like the man provides and like
01:54:03.700
he's the macho and the woman you know does the cooking and cleaning and my nail just broke off and
01:54:08.820
my um uh but i think that uh i don't know i feel like we should kind of adopt a little bit more of that
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maybe not go fully to that extent but like it doesn't have to be like fully 50 50 if that makes
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sense like as the like i don't know i don't know i don't know where i'm going with this but i feel
01:54:32.880
like i don't know i'm not making any sense i would 100 stay home and cook and clean and stay like take
01:54:41.780
care of the kids if like my life was paid for would you quit only fans yeah if he was like rich rich
01:54:49.920
what is rich rich like money baby six figs if he makes like seven figures a year then yeah i'd quit
01:54:58.040
seven figures a year i mean what if he makes half a mil then like no i wouldn't quit that's 500 000
01:55:07.000
don't it's like top one percent well good for him but i mean like i'm not quitting because like
01:55:14.020
i'm also making money like when we have kids and y'all quit but not right now 500 000 you don't need
01:55:20.460
to work i don't care what city you're in okay all right i think the u.s men are disappointing um for
01:55:28.980
the simple fact i actually am married to european so i um know that they actually do provide and
01:55:37.920
they're like very sweet um and they always like i don't i don't really do much so i like stay home
01:55:44.500
and i do have like a part-time job or whatever but i know that my man like he provides all the way and
01:55:49.500
he makes sure that i'm like good with an american man it's just i feel like they have a lazy mentality
01:55:55.920
and a european or yeah european man they have like a like a hard work hard working mentality so
01:56:03.860
wait so um do you have kids i don't have any kids you're married though right yeah you're gonna have
01:56:10.240
kids soon or i want to i i want to have kids but i don't know not in this society not in this economy
01:56:15.720
nor society does your you're married though your does your husband want kids that's up for debate
01:56:20.660
what do you mean you guys are married what do you mean it's up for debate it's it's the simple
01:56:25.420
fact of the matter is it's like i don't want to raise my children in this type of society the way
01:56:30.420
that does he want he wants kids and you married him just he married you despite your unlawing about it
01:56:39.380
and i told him and i asked him i said do you mind if we don't have children and he's he's so so about
01:56:48.280
it but we are open to adopting what in this society wait what that makes no sense why would
01:56:53.500
you why would you be unwilling to have biological kids but be open to adopting if the problem is
01:56:57.940
society okay well for example she is adopted yeah i'm sorry to point you out so but there's a lot of
01:57:06.700
children like out in this world that don't have homes regardless of the situation okay don't have
01:57:12.420
families adoption waiting lists are mile long if there's a 100 100 of children who get put up for
01:57:19.140
adoption at birth are adopted 100 of them do it through foster care yeah okay so you're going to
01:57:24.140
take on fosterlings yeah but why not have biological kids because i to add okay so to add more children
01:57:30.820
into this already overly populated world the world's becoming underpopulated and underpopulated
01:57:36.640
really as of like this year or like in the last couple of years because honey people be popping
01:57:42.760
kids left and right so our birth rate pandemic our birth rate our birth rate's at 1.6 it's been
01:57:48.360
dropping like a rock since 1800 if you look at they banned abortion if you look at it globally if you
01:57:53.320
look at it globally this is the case in all western nations north korea is at uh i think now it's it's
01:57:58.720
at point uh 80 i think or even lower 0.70 so it's not even one child per family anymore which means
01:58:05.960
they're going to go extinct as a people group literally extinct okay but what but when you look
01:58:11.180
at this when you look at society and when you look at like what's going on in the world and you see
01:58:16.100
all the negative stuff that is happening what me what negative stuff well there's wars going on there
01:58:22.100
wasn't wars before when there was less population but the thing about it is it's just like to i we all
01:58:28.500
grew up learning like for me like i can't handle putting a child through this world that is already
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corrupt and evil as it is it's it's almost like selfish to me in a way to be isn't that the
01:58:41.820
opposite like wouldn't the idea that if the world is corrupt that if you have children and still good
01:58:46.980
values in them you're doing the opposite of what's corrupt if i have children we're moving into the
01:58:51.360
woods and no one's going to know where we're going no one's going to know anything about us
01:58:55.200
yeah but wouldn't that be a positive to society to disappear no no no positive to society to raise
01:59:01.680
the next generation right to be but you have to think about it like the children now that are going
01:59:07.640
to schools especially on tiktok i've heard like teachers talk about don't send them to school
01:59:12.120
but here's the thing i've heard teachers talk about their children's how their children are reading at
01:59:16.980
like a for first grade level and how the like reading and mathematical skills are just dropping
01:59:23.700
i mean i even asked like a family member like do you do you know how to like multiply and they don't
01:59:30.860
even know how to multiply or do addition or they don't even know how to read because obviously we have
01:59:34.640
our phones and things of that nature i don't want to bring children into this world where technology
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becomes their everything if that makes any sense i would rather put my children like why i don't
01:59:45.460
understand this at all you can govern all of that with your children yeah but then it's like i want
01:59:51.880
them to live life and then how how are they going to live life like if i if i shelter them too much
01:59:58.220
then they're going to go out and want to uh go out into the world very sporadic and spiral and do this
02:00:03.840
and do that and and um get into get into bad situations and i don't want that for a child because i i've
02:00:11.460
grown up in an environment where i've done sporadic and spirally things and you wish your parents hadn't
02:00:17.160
had you no i just wish that i wish they would have raised me right and that's what i'm that's all i'm
02:00:22.240
asking to you i you just are afraid you can't raise kids right or what that's you for you're afraid you
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can't i'm afraid that i can't because of the so you kill your husband's dream of children because
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you're afraid that you're not going to be a good mom i yes that's fucking awful like that's fucking
02:00:36.700
awful why would you do that to him he can't have another wife to have kids with but we can adopt
02:00:42.480
yeah but that's not the same as having your own child you can you you're replicating your dna like
02:00:48.720
do you realize that for a man for instance right no nothing more that'll ever give him the sense of
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pride like having a son especially a son who's accomplishing things or the or or you didn't let me
02:01:01.180
finish or uh what they get uh in in exchange for having a daughter as well so so the thing is is
02:01:09.400
like there's a distinction here to be made between well honey you know why don't we just go adopt this
02:01:14.520
other he's like why don't you give me a fucking kid but the thing about it is it's like i don't i
02:01:19.800
want one i don't want to go through labor oh there we go that's what i thought it really was you just
02:01:24.700
didn't want to yeah because it'll damage your body right well no i don't want i just don't i'd rather
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not have children in this lifetime i'm not saying that hopefully you know in more lifetimes to come
02:01:38.760
i want to be able to at least give my children the best life that they can possibly have how many
02:01:45.020
wives does your husband get well i mean men get men get multiple wives every day like do they
02:01:50.900
divorce their woman and they remarry so you're you're planning on getting a divorce with your
02:01:55.380
husband i'm not planning on getting a divorce with my husband then the assumption here is you're
02:01:58.480
going to be married forever well the ideal is to get be married forever okay so if that's the
02:02:03.100
assumption you're going to be married forever who else can he have children with well i mean he could
02:02:08.980
just put his eggs in i mean his sperm in a cup and put in the freezer and then if i decide i want to
02:02:13.800
have children i will yeah but what about surrogate but what about him could be what about him though
02:02:19.140
not talking about you now not talking about everything that princess you want so talking about
02:02:23.540
what about the king what does the king get here does the king get to have a progeny does he get
02:02:28.320
to have that does he get to have the prince with an adoptive child he'll still have a kid of his
02:02:34.840
not of his own you know biologically the only thing you can give him yeah but that's the only thing i
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can give him as a woman i could give that's the only unique thing that you can bring to the table
02:02:47.300
as a woman that he could what else could he what what else is unique that you would bring to the
02:02:50.920
table as a woman i think my nurturing spirit um what are you nurturing you don't want kids
02:02:55.940
what are you what the hell are you nurturing him and like treat him like as a king and i am as a
02:03:02.560
queen um i don't to to say why couldn't he get a baron woman do the exact same thing but that i mean
02:03:09.580
baron or no baron regardless of the situation a woman is still a woman a woman is still nurturing
02:03:14.520
regardless of the situation yeah and they get a lot out of that they get money they get resources
02:03:18.560
they get affection themselves the birth rate during the great depression was 2.1 children
02:03:25.580
per woman the current birth rate is below that and women still refuse to have kids due to economic
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issues make it make sense yeah i can well i can actually explain why that happened but we don't
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even need to dive into it i'd just like to finish this real quick this exchange so your husband wants
02:03:41.840
kids your husband has the expectation he's only going to ever have one wife and his one wife is
02:03:47.580
refusing to have children so tell me how is this a fair deal for your husband well we both agreed
02:03:54.360
that if i don't want to have children or we don't want to have children we can adopt that's our agreement
02:03:59.520
that's our that's like not an ultimatum or whatever but it's okay i before i even met my partner i've
02:04:08.240
always wanted to adopt i never truly wanted to have children of my own how many how many kids you want
02:04:12.960
i want to adopt five okay so why can't you give him three and adopt two three children or give him
02:04:18.720
one can you give him one one that's actually his he can but the thing about it is it's like you like
02:04:25.180
regardless of the situation there's so many kids out there that need homes including the ones he wants
02:04:30.740
well well he doesn't he doesn't know that yet because we don't have he does no way he said he wants
02:04:35.560
him he well yeah but he could have kids adopted or biological it's just well i can't have them
02:04:41.080
biological without your participation oh then sucks the sucks i guess you're gonna bury me for the rest
02:04:46.820
of your life i don't know what else to say besides i want you don't think that that's mildly horrible
02:04:50.760
i don't i don't i mean if my if he if the tables were returned and he was like okay i don't want to
02:04:57.180
have children that would be horrible too i would respect that yeah but that would still be horrible
02:05:01.740
too if you so think about it if you if you were to think how unfair this would be woman says okay
02:05:06.440
i have this small window my 20s to my early 30s to have healthy children okay that's my window
02:05:12.200
right i get married young to this guy 25 and he's like oh you know what i don't really want to have
02:05:17.620
kids you're like but wait my biological clock is ticking that's what i want more than anything is
02:05:23.100
children i want children and you're not going to give them to me and he's like nah baby we're just
02:05:26.780
gonna adopt you'd be like what the fuck right they'd be like what the fuck i mean the thing
02:05:32.420
about it is is like you we don't really know like when's the like limit for women to like
02:05:37.820
stop having children because yeah we kind of we do we do now 30 to 35 usually yeah oh that and by
02:05:45.520
the way that's really not an optimal age group because it does so much damage really late you
02:05:50.100
know what's really funny is like like you said earlier like i don't want to go through labor
02:05:53.660
the most hilarious thing to me is that women say i'm going to wait till i'm 30 to have start
02:05:58.080
having children when it does the most amount of damage to their body that's that's like that's
02:06:03.540
like hilariously backwards to me i'm like you want to wait until you're in your 30s when it's going to
02:06:08.960
do the worst possible amounts of damage to your body rather than in your 20s where you can literally
02:06:14.000
be back at work the next day that's how easy it is on women's bodies they're back at work the next day
02:06:20.640
it's not even a problem they're designed to have children like they're designed not to get wrecked
02:06:25.820
in their 20s having kids yeah but the thing about it is your 20s are are for you to discover who you
02:06:30.380
are and what you want to do in life it shouldn't be like oh let's let's get says who you just made
02:06:35.360
that shit up who said that their 20s are your discovery years your 20s are your family years
02:06:40.320
that's when you start your families yes i've heard that like my my father always told me like
02:06:46.200
wait until you're 30 well your dad was wrong because you're going to wreck your body worse
02:06:50.080
at 30 than at 20 22 because i've been exercising and getting myself together but i that won't make
02:06:55.880
you skinny elasticity when you well it doesn't matter how much you actually you're i mean y'all
02:07:01.400
don't know my body i i know my body so i'm just saying like i personally wouldn't want to have kids
02:07:07.780
in this society okay i do need to i do need to thank bender the offender for his tts that came
02:07:13.600
through i don't know if you're still uh watching bender but uh thank you for the tts it was uh
02:07:18.080
it was a good one we have lucas here with his message if you can read it lucy come on now literally
02:07:24.260
drove through a highway construction zone today three dudes with jack hammers one dude operating a
02:07:29.380
crane and two other dudes loading pipes and one dopey chick reading waving a red caution flag yeah they
02:07:36.640
do hold stop signs i've seen that it's an important job you know you gotta wear the stop sign
02:07:41.440
enough they held a sign for like six hours of course a robot will put them out of business
02:07:46.820
a second we can figure out how to make one you know just pop a stop sign up every you know sequentially
02:07:51.160
here and there yeah see that's what ai should be used for not generating woman with three boobs
02:07:56.740
uh going to you guys the russia versus u.s reaction video your reaction um dang i forgot you guys were
02:08:06.660
like going and i just like then i started thinking about like what you guys were talking about and
02:08:10.620
then like my thought um i think it it should be oh it was what you said about the europeans i agree
02:08:18.420
with that because most of my sugar daddies are european they weren't born here they don't live here
02:08:24.160
so i get that but i don't think like a man a man can't be um a hundred percent you know financially
02:08:33.540
providing for a woman um if he's not making enough which you know it can be hard with you know how we
02:08:40.620
live today like i live in san diego like the house down payment is a hundred thousand but not even is
02:08:47.420
like barely bare minimum so i think like i have to work too you know i wouldn't work as much as the
02:08:53.900
man though but i would still work your reaction my reaction um honestly i kind of i don't know i
02:09:04.160
kind of like working so like that wouldn't really matter to me i don't know i don't i like doing it
02:09:09.740
50 50 like you're fine with 50 50 yeah okay we have another chat here from meet the kaiser thank you so
02:09:16.520
much man by the way uh let's get w's in the chat for bender the offender w's in the chat for libertariat
02:09:21.280
also lucas and meet the kaiser uh go ahead lucy all right brian and andrew argue with me the u.s
02:09:28.580
russian video it's easy to interview 50 u.s men upload the 10 that simped and then upload the russians
02:09:33.300
that didn't aren't videos like this misleading yeah that's actually a good point um it seemed
02:09:40.360
very selectively edited and in addition to that kaiser one of the other considerations is
02:09:45.300
uh even let's say all the 50 men in the u.s and all the 50 men in russia uh the russian men gave
02:09:52.020
answers similar to the other russian men the u.s men gave an answer the 50 50 answer uh they could
02:09:57.540
have also like kind of there could have been some sort of bias when selecting who they go and approach
02:10:02.240
like one of those dudes sounded gay and then they so they picked like kind of more feminine or like
02:10:08.040
the the whereas in the russian one they maybe picked more like uh masculine looking men that
02:10:14.340
could have been another bias in the thing but that is a good point they just simply like pick they
02:10:18.920
they're going with the narrative they were picking and choosing there's probably u.s men that you could
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interview although i think it would be fair to say that russian men probably fall more in line with
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traditional uh gender roles than than the reverse also it could have been staged actors who knows but
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i mean just taking it face value um that's kind of where we were going with it but uh do you have
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anything on that andrew or i mean no it's a it's a fine point it easily could have been uh selected
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that way there was this um in fact i saw a video it was a uk company did this where they were basically
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trying to make americans sound stupid where they would ask them basic questions about american history
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they couldn't answer things like this and so a different american team went over to the uk did the exact
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same thing back to them it turns out that they're just as retarded basically right so um so i mean
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it's a good point yeah and we have one more that just came through so we'll get that one from lucas
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w's in the chat for lucas guys thank you so much lucas holy solipsis solipsism go ahead thank you
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holy solipsism the most fundamental biological imperative since time immemorial is to pass on his dna
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not someone else's and yet she wants him to relinquish suppress his most basic human imperative
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thank you lucas do you have a response to that um first and foremost i want to say uh
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i don't think i am relinquishing anything from him because we did speak about this and um
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i don't really think dna matters that much i mean i i i'm the question is are you talking about like
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dna as in legacy or dna as just like you're saying it's a biological imperative that people have to pass
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on their dna it's just like every everything that exists that's biological that's alive
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it has a biological imperative passes dna on okay i have a question did he propose to you yeah did he
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already know your stance on children when he proposed yeah there you go yeah yeah i mean i guess if he
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accepted it then i mean if he if he's if he knows what's going on and that's on him if he
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you guys we live in a live in a scary world at least to me it's scary because i don't like i said i don't
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want to raise children in this environment and if i do have children i'm not going to you know i will
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raise that child but just in the forest or something i mean isn't that a greater wouldn't that be a greater
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call to action like society is so fucked up uh and like you you bring more children into the world to
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fix it right isn't that the call to action that should be but then i mean i'm not gonna you girls
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are so beautiful and you guys are gorgeous but like to hear that your stories and to be like okay i want
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to have daughters and then i don't know if my daughter's gonna come out like at 12 o'clock at night
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and rebel against me or something like that like that's what i fear and then my girls having ofs
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like i i don't i don't that's something that's scary to me if that makes sense well life is risk
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yeah but like it's just not that risk i want to take i want to be a good parent but like like i said
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can i add to that i feel like there like there is definitely a fear when it comes to like reproducing
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but i think that's kind of part of the rewarding aspect of it of having children is that you get to
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lead them in a direction that you think is um like you know important and imperative to you and
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what your opinion is on that but you know as like as people always say like life isn't fair
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and you don't know what's going to happen to you all you can do is control what you have control over
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so if you raise your kids a certain way then they won't rebel against you that i mean like you
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obviously every human person is their own person but i almost feel like you have more of a risk of
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that when adopting a child because you don't know what their biological tendencies are what their
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genetics are when it's your own kid you at least know what to expect like i'm almost done but like
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with me i suffer from a few mental illnesses just like anxiety depression if i have a kid i know that
02:14:10.020
there's a risk that my kid will also suffer from that however i can approach that with them and say
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hey kiddo like you might go through something like this but i'm there for you because i understand
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you because i am you at the end of the day you know i can do that with an adoptive child as well
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who's going through a lot of traumatic experience um who here wants kids show fans in the future
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or now don't want kids don't want kids don't want kids don't want kids okay um and then this is for
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all of you even though those of you who don't don't want kids if you knew that your daughter was
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going to turn out just like you would you want to have kids yeah yes no okay
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fuck no oh yes you wait yes oh wait like me but like not my life so because you well you said
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you don't want to have kids yeah but if she turns out just like you then yes you would because her
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whole argument was essentially uh if my child turns out to be a fuck up i would regret it so that's one
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of the reasons i don't want to have kids but if your child turned out to be end up just like you
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would that change your mind or no no okay continue oh i would i don't know like i'm not planning to
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have kids but like if i had a daughter and she ended up like me i'd be pretty happy like okay all
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right yeah all right yes okay huh that's interesting all right uh what's up i wanted to say with like
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the idea of 50 50 did you know that men are more likely to cheat on their wives when it's more of
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a 50 50 dynamic and with that i feel like that could perpetuate male loneliness so in a sense like
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sticking to the traditional 100 breadwinner and and chilling home like what do you guys think about
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that it makes me kind of sad for men but i would like to also like work as well in a sense wait so
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okay 50 50 infidelity greater in men i mean it probably is greater in women too
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now you're saying she's saying in if if it's a 50 50 relationship they're more likely to cheat as
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opposed to if it's not yes that's just men men are more likely to cheat but the women would be more
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likely it just wouldn't matter though if the idea here is just if you were to have a dynamic where
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it was not 50 50 and it was more traditional with the man working the likelihood decreases of him
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cheating that's that's it even if even if the woman it uh it increased the likelihood of her cheating
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at 50 50 it wouldn't really matter to the stat right okay was there a question or i was just
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wondering what my pure ladies think about that i hadn't i hadn't heard that stat before so i haven't
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i haven't dove into it it would kind of make sense i think um i mean if the male is like not in a
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position where he can feel like you know he's top dog and he's the fucking alpha or whatever um
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you know uh i guess that might make him feel inferior and maybe he needs to go you know
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cheat in order to feel better about himself i i don't know that's from the male side i don't know
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from the female side uh it's just fulfillment yeah it's the idea of opposition donated two hundred
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dollars chair six let's see if you're full of it or not i dare you to call your husband right now
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on speaker tell him you changed your mind and want to have kids after all let's see how he responds
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he is he's european so the most thing he'll say is okay that's all he that's all the response
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you're gonna get out of him is he german or he's polish okay polish is he here in santa barbara
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no we both live in chicago okay uh i mean we can't really do that absent for getting like
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it's technically wiretapping of course he's polish we would need to get permission or
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what is what is what is that supposed to mean there's there's a series of jokes
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that start with what did the blank blank you know what i mean i'm just saying just saying
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okay i want to i want to hear those jokes after the podcast okay how do you get a one-armed
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pollock out of a tree you wave to him there you go that's what you didn't what
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you you wave to him yeah oh that's i've never heard of that joke before no no whole series of
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pollock jokes you didn't know that no i didn't all right damien we're gonna get do our next reaction
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here uh so there is a famous actor uh can you pull up what's his name i already forgot his name
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is it anthony anthony aaron taylor aaron taylor johnson taylor johnson oh he's so fine react
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please the whatever the first one is you're gonna need to hide the oh uh put this higher
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sorry guys okay scroll down just a teeny bit you push it nope nope nope nope nope nope up up up up
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do you remember the instructions on this it was the no scroll down it was the relationship status
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hey do you need to push it down one more but you no no go up go up go up
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there's little arrows on on the side for the that that'll let you control it the little arrows
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at the very bottom of the scroll thing i showed this to you before there's a you're right there
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just tell him to press down one at a time right of the screen there is a scroll there's a scroll bar
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well yeah but at the very bottom there's oh my god i'm sorry
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he's just talking about the two-way arrows on the scroll bar
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keep going you gotta can you get it there please
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filmmaker sam taylor wood in 2009 on set of their film nowhere boy when he was 18
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and she was 42 the two began dating and were married in the chapel at babington house
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uh they changed both their surnames blah blah blah two dollar two daughters he's a stepfather to sam's
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two daughters from her previous marriage uh when he was 18 so they met when he was 18 and she was 42
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also i believe she was like the director of some film he was an actor on set power power dynamic
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so this is i think when he was a bit younger this is his
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i don't know if they were just dating at this point maybe they were married
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oh yeah it's a tattoo of her name her name is sam
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i'm pretty here now that we're out of f11 you can check is that the last one
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uh what do you guys think you think uh i mean so she met him 42 he was 18 i believe the articles
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you guys think uh what do you guys think fair game or
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fair game i mean he seems happy question mark question mark question mark but there was i do know there was a whole like movement on the internet that was like hashtag free aaron taylor johnson but he seems happy i do think it's weird though that her eldest daughter is only four years younger than mr aaron taylor johnson
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that was a little weird okay your reaction uh i don't know i mean
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it's that's their life and as long as he's happy
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i graduated high school when i was 17 and not 18
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so i can't really be against this in any fashion
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like i don't think i could look at an 18 year old
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Sorry we didn't figure out the Nicki Minaj beat
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I think wanting to read with your partner's queue
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But I do want to date someone who can provide for me
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I mean that technically we want to get technical
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Like I don't know why anyone would want to date me
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I might believe you if I didn't know about any better
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So does that mean you rank yourself lower or higher?
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Just because like I have like a little insecurity issue
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That doesn't sound like something you'd say about a ten
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It's something you'd say about your grandfather
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Yo Kaiser thank you so much man do really appreciate it look if you manage to make it to our show on Tuesday that's going to be a doozy but do very much appreciate your patronage tonight he'd sent in the first champagne pop too right right
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I miss Ryan who was trolling me all last episode
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Do you need a big strong man to get it for you?
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What barriers prevent men from forming meaningful romantic relationships
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With 25% of young men reporting they have never been in one
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They don't know how to ask women out in real life
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Brian are you enjoying your drinking of alcohol this episode?
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They're all GMO bananas, otherwise they would have seeds.
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By the way, whoever does these, you should try to get straight on.
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Anybody in the Crucible watching who wants to send in a revise where it's forward facing.
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You're about to hear about starting in Detroit Rock City.
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You look like you're about to take something back to the store and really give a talking to
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It looks like you're going to hit me with a chancla.
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We did miss the lady, unfortunately, the most important one that we should have aged.
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Missy, going to your notes, you said you think, or I think, well, you think men should be providers
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in most scenarios in most scenarios and one plural woman should not have to pay?
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There's no specification here about first date, but so only first date and then?
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No, I think that men should like, well, I date traditionally, right?
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Like, I think that if you're out here using men for dates and whatever and you don't really have any intention
03:12:51.820
But if you're dating to like for marriage and like, I do feel like because of what I've like been through and like dating men with no jobs who didn't support me,
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it does give me a different kind of feeling towards it.
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I do want someone who's like, yeah, like take me like to dates and showing me why like I should pick him and like you should pick me too.
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But I think in the beginning, I do want someone to court me, but I'm not like someone who's like.
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And so, okay, piggybacking off what you said to the whole panel, she said, I think men should be providers in most scenarios
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I think it really depends on what is the nature of the other things that the woman is supposed to do to make up for the fact that she's not providing.
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Like if you're meant to take on all these other tasks, I guess.
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Yes, I think men should pay for the first date.
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Otherwise, I always tend to split with the guy I'm dating or we just sort of do, I'll buy you.
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I don't think they should be the sole providers.
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Like, if I initiated it and I said I wanted to take you out to eat, then I would pay.
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But if you told me you wanted to take me out to eat, then I think you should pay.
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But I would, like, I do it for, like, my friends.
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By the way, just so you know, with men, if they call one of their buddies up and they
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They will fight over who pays, regardless of who invited who.
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I actually usually always pay, which is bad because I end up getting used.
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So while we're talking about shoulds, Mizzy, you said men should be providers.
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Just curious, those of you who said men should pay for first dates, will you take, who here
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Are you going to take your husband's last name?
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So, but you're kind of like, okay with 50-50, it sounds like.
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Like you don't care about the guy being married?
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I think I would do a hybrid, like one of the, like, where I just have both names.
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And then, kind of, some of you said men should be providers, men should pay for first dates,
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men should be traditional, blah, blah, blah, but like you won't take the last name.
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In the same way that it's a man's duty to be a provider?
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I will cook all the meals if they clean, I think.
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But also, we established earlier that I don't mind being 50-50.
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Look, I guess, why is it okay for women to say men should pay for first dates, men should
03:17:19.680
be providers, men should protect women, men should even sacrifice their life for their
03:17:28.560
That doesn't seem really controversial, but it's not okay for men to say women should dress
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modestly, or women shouldn't go out and party, or women should cook for men, or women
03:17:43.940
It wasn't so many questions, it wasn't so many questions, it was, like, you guys put
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all these shoulds on men, no objections, you wouldn't even consider this sexist.
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You would not consider it sexist to put any should on a man.
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But the moment men put shoulds on women, you guys lose your fucking minds.
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I wouldn't want to have to do all of the cooking and cleaning.
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Let's see if you can, I just want to make sure, right?
03:18:21.360
So you're with a guy, you really like him, you've been dating for a while, right?
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He has a lot of that chivalry thing you like, he has all that charisma, he has, he's just
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You walk down the street with him, some other random guy, half his size, reaches over and
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Is that boyfriend you're with going to turn around and knock him the fuck out?
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But also, I would do that if someone tried to assault my guy.
03:18:49.840
Is he risking, is he risking, hang on, is that guy risking his life though?
03:18:53.040
I guess depending on if that person had like a knife.
03:18:56.660
But the expectation then is that if your honor is in any way sullied, if your honor is sullied
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by somebody else, your expectation is that this guy risks his life for your honor.
03:19:09.520
No, I think, I just said I'll do all the cooking, but I think that I don't want to date a slob.
03:19:17.480
Okay, but you're changing it around to lazy slob.
03:19:20.100
If the guy's working, let's say, even if you are, even if you're both working.
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If we're both working, then why would I do all of it?
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But if you're walking down the street, some other dude grabs your ass, and you expect
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that your boyfriend turns around and lays him low, you're actually asking him to put
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No, I would not be upset if my boyfriend knocked the guy out, but I wouldn't be upset with
03:20:00.020
Because how do you know that I wouldn't turn around and smack the guy myself?
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Your own answer was that you expected him to do that.
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Well, you put the words into my mouth, kind of.
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And because you're 96 pounds, it does nothing to him.
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You're going to punch this guy in the face and he laughs at you.
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Ideally, I'm not even in a position where my man will let anybody get within an inch of me.
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But if some girl came up to my boyfriend and grabbed his, like, you know what?
03:21:20.860
Unless that chick looked fucking super rough, it looked like she could fucking knock you out.
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But the thing is, the thing is, is like, even if that's the case, right, he doesn't need you for that.
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He could, he could remove her from the situation in seconds.
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Whereas, you cannot remove him from the situation in seconds.
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Women are so weak and we can't defend ourselves.
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I'm just going to totally say, instead of saying, I'm going to actually engage with what you're saying, Andrea,
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I'm just going to mispronounce woman all night and then never answer any questions.
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So, my partner and I, we're both a 50-50 relationship, okay?
03:22:13.740
I would love to invite you to my house and you can actually see besides the point.
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It's not that it's a 50-50 relationship because, you know, he does the dishes and you clean the house or vice versa or whatever.
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It's not a 50-50 relationship because always one partner is bringing more to the table than the other every time.
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Financially wise, my partner is bringing more to the table.
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What I have learned from this panel is that succubus are real and I'm scared for my son.
03:23:32.880
Plus, I would trust Andrew with a daycare of Lucy's roofing skills.
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Yeah, back to your question before we went off on the side tangent.
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But let's take out the financial aspect of this conversation.
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Let's talk about, for example, cleaning and cooking.
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I have to provide that, the second part of our relationship as to cleaning the dishes.
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So my thing is, well, you're ganging up on my girl Lucy over here, so I got to defend her a little bit.
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Because you, it really depends on the type of relationships that you see.
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You can't, we can't truly pinpoint like, oh, so-and-so does this amount of chores or so-and-so does that amount of chores.
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So I would have to just counter with this, just a simple question, right?
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You'll probably lie to me, but I'll ask it anyway.
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It's so fucking embarrassing when you guys do this.
03:25:13.280
So I'm, like, I'm already heightened to, if something, if someone were to, if someone
03:25:18.300
were to break into our house, I'm already getting the back.
03:25:29.240
Why can't we both get up at the same time at three o'clock in the morning when an intruder
03:25:35.280
I'm asking, who's going to be the first to confront?
03:25:37.680
Well, that would have to, it takes, okay, so let me give you another little story.
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We both woke up at three o'clock in the morning.
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I was the first person to go down, actually, downstairs to see what actually happened and
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Yeah, that's a different, that's a whole different thing.
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But I'm just trying to say, the whole objective is stranger danger type of thing.
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Like you basically said, if someone were to break in at three o'clock in the morning, who
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would be jumping at the door to swing a bat or whatever?
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I'm just giving you my analogy that like, hey, sometimes it might not always be the guy
03:26:29.640
The guy, sure, the guy is the one that is expected to be the one.
03:26:38.240
And then Crazy Ace, it's not letting me pull it up, but about 10 minutes ago, I think you
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Thank you so much for all the gifted subs on Twitch tonight, man.
03:27:01.440
I think it's probably more realistic that the man will be the first to jump up.
03:27:07.260
Whenever these girls claim that they can fight a man or they are as strong as men, Brian
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should bring out a new jar of pickles and ask the hurry if she can open it on the road.
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Dude, let me do 25 million push-ups in the next five days.
03:27:36.980
I'm going to have to door dash like 10 jars of pickles, though.
03:27:46.180
Thank you for your double-blind anecdotal study.
03:27:50.680
And also, Daryl Frank Castle said you're lying about this marriage thing or whatever.
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Your ability to tackle tough subjects with candor...
03:28:19.320
Engage in good faith logic and carry conversations forward expertly.
03:28:26.120
Tone Police Patriarchy, thank you so much for the Streamlabs message.
03:28:41.020
I can't open a jar of pickles and I might not be able to fight a man.
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A man is not going to expect me to deck him and nothing can surprise you.
03:28:48.240
There's nothing like the element of surprise, baby.
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If he already slapped your ass, what if he just slapped your face?
03:29:00.400
It's going to be like a Looney Tunes fight, dude.
03:29:13.040
Desmond, my security guard, do you want to try to do...
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No, because we all know what's going to happen.
03:30:02.460
It would stress me out and it would be so awkward.
03:30:05.020
Although, have you guys, maybe this is a bit more modern?
03:30:11.380
Lauren, I've seen all these stories of you have these, like, singles events.
03:30:17.400
So, it's not speed dating, but it's singles events.
03:30:30.440
Men just, like, have realized, like, what happens on speed dating is pretty much not as severe,
03:30:36.280
but the same thing that happens on dating apps.
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The women are going to gravitate towards, like, the top 10% men there.
03:30:42.360
And these men are just going to get, like, rejection after rejection, except it's worse because they're in person.
03:30:50.700
Because you're going to not go to something because you expect something will happen.
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Yeah, well, women can move through life that way, but men have a very good understanding.
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So, men have a very good understanding of where they fall on the pecking order because of women's,
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I'm not saying women are wrong for this, but, like, we can't.
03:31:21.940
And that's why us as men, we can't be like, yeah, I'm a 10.
03:31:32.480
So, you guys, because you guys all can get sexual access from men that would never commit
03:31:38.260
So, you can deal with men who are, like, outside of your league.
03:31:41.460
And then you start getting confused as to, oh, what's my actual league?
03:31:45.980
So, you start thinking, well, I can sleep with this guy.
03:31:48.700
So, maybe this is how attractive I am because this is how attractive he is.
03:31:55.120
That's not really what your league is, the men who will give you a ring or commitment.
03:31:59.360
And so, there's just a total differential there.
03:32:02.500
Most men know pretty well going in what their experience is going to be on dating apps or if
03:32:07.620
they go, like most men, their experience, like, when it comes to approaching a woman,
03:32:12.880
like, 95% of the time they're going to get rejected.
03:32:21.660
Remember that statistic earlier that someone's TTS were about how 25% of men, I guess, or
03:32:27.100
men under 25, I don't remember what it was exactly, about how they haven't been in, like,
03:32:31.560
I wonder if it's because they're so afraid of rejection that they don't go to events
03:32:35.020
like these single events and that sort of thing.
03:32:37.640
Yeah, and the expectation on men is that they're the ones that need to approach, so they're
03:32:43.260
going to be the most rejected because they're approaching more.
03:32:50.440
I pushed back one of my fingernails because they're kind of grown out right now.
03:32:55.940
Not all the way, but, like, a substantial amount.
03:33:00.080
I got a 900 milligram Advil, though, so I'm back, guys.
03:33:10.960
Yo, Richard, to Richard Ritchie, I know you sent in a super chat, but one is just below
03:33:16.160
the threshold for us to read, but we can't display it just because it's inappropriate,
03:33:43.080
You were saying about rejection or something, or...?
03:33:46.280
Oh, I said, like, men are more likely to be, like, rejected because they're the ones that
03:33:51.260
approach, because they're the ones that are expected to approach, and they approach, so...
03:33:56.040
Or, no, Lucy, you were saying, like, something about men...
03:33:59.860
Oh, men under 25 haven't been in, like, a substantial relationship, which is what was
03:34:07.480
Someone's, like, text-to-speeched that statistic, and I said, I wonder if that's, like, partial...
03:34:13.200
Like, that reason is partially because of the fact that men don't go to events, like, singles
03:34:18.020
events, because they have a fear of being rejected, which is fair.
03:34:21.820
If you really do believe that you have a higher chance of getting rejected, like, I understand
03:34:25.460
why you wouldn't want to jump, but you miss every shot you don't take.
03:34:27.700
You know, the singles events are heavily inundated with men, very few women.
03:34:32.480
Wait, but he just said it was the other way around.
03:34:43.740
And usually it's, like, there's three or four or six women or whatever, and then the
03:34:55.320
I've seen a lot of reports that these, like, single events that are organized by women,
03:35:00.220
speed dating, whatever, men just aren't showing up anymore.
03:35:06.820
I'm just saying, from what I've seen of them...
03:35:11.260
Now, the only ones that I've ever seen have never been in person.
03:35:20.540
And what I've seen is that it's usually a few women and then a shitload of guys who show up.
03:35:27.500
But it could also be that because it's online and those guys are showing up, they don't feel as bad as they would in person being rejected.
03:35:38.640
But you can't say that, like, women have never been rejected.
03:35:47.140
Because you were right about, like, oh, like, someone who will sleep with me but, like, but won't date me.
03:35:53.320
Yeah, but the difference is women will be, like, I remember I saw TikTok recently and this woman got, she, she's, like, doing this rejection therapy challenge.
03:36:02.980
And she's, like, she's, like, my goal is to get rejected 30 times.
03:36:09.680
So she's two of 30 in her rejection therapy challenge.
03:36:13.840
Mind you, she's made multiple TikToks about this.
03:36:16.180
The two rejections that she's counting towards the 30 total are, like, rejections from, like, months or years prior where it was, like, she shot her shot.
03:36:27.600
One of the guys she ended up dating eventually and I think the other guy she ended up dating but they rejected her initially because one of the guys was interested in different women.
03:36:36.300
In any case, the difference between rejection between men and women is, while I'll grant that women get rejected, although it tends to be very different and very different experiences, you as women, maybe you get rejected.
03:36:51.780
You can remember all the times you've been rejected.
03:36:54.780
Men have been rejected hundreds if not thousands of times.
03:36:58.220
Have you been rejected a thousand times in your life, Lucy?
03:37:00.520
No, but I don't know if I've shot my shot that many times.
03:37:04.160
If they don't, okay, I mean, honest, just an honest question, right?
03:37:10.880
We can see if we can frame this properly so that we're not talking past each other.
03:37:16.620
Raise your hand here if you're a woman and you've ever propositioned a man for sex and he told you no to.
03:37:29.840
Wait, you're not counting, like, the boyfriend's just not in the mood, right?
03:37:35.820
Talking about you're approaching a guy at a club, something like that, and you're like,
03:37:39.900
hey, I'd really like to sleep whatever mannerism you do that.
03:37:45.440
And they've been like, oh, no, you know, I just prefer not to.
03:37:52.840
But to be completely fair and to validate your point, it was because he couldn't get it up.
03:38:05.560
That means he wanted to, but physically couldn't.
03:38:19.080
Well, I feel like in his mind, he was like not attracted to me.
03:38:24.200
I feel like he wasn't physically attracted to me.
03:38:25.820
That's why I called it like a rejection because I felt like he wasn't attracted to me.
03:38:42.040
I can say one thing that's stupid and everyone stops talking.
03:38:45.540
So to your point, to your thing, your anecdote, the guy approached you?
03:38:54.560
So we had talked on the dating app and we were like.
03:39:03.620
I understand you walked it back, but I'm just confused how you arrived.
03:39:17.620
I think in my mind, I was doing stupid autistic math.
03:39:21.800
I was thinking because like he was like not attracted to me, like in his mind, like he
03:39:29.740
And he was just like, oh, that's not actually attractive to me.
03:39:33.920
So like even if I went for it, even if that was the case, even, even if he was like most
03:39:42.660
men definitely can't even get into a bed with a woman who's not attracted to them.
03:39:48.940
So like this guy, like even if I grant you that that was the case, he was unattracted
03:40:03.540
How many of you, now that we have that show of hands, how many of you think that men who
03:40:09.920
proposition women for sex generally get rejected by show of hands?
03:40:19.320
All I'm asking is that men who generally try to proposition women for sex get rejected.
03:40:36.040
So like the, here's what the question actually is asking.
03:41:05.980
But also I feel like generally like if we're trying to talk about how a hookah
03:41:08.860
culture shouldn't be the way that it is, then, then you should say that nobody would
03:41:13.380
Well, no, just the point is the rejection, right?
03:41:18.220
It's like almost anybody you walk over to who's a male, who's single, and you just
03:41:23.180
go, hey, you want to come back to my house and fuck?
03:41:27.120
Next time I go to the bar, I'm going to have a little camera right here and I'm going
03:41:38.780
No, I used to do hidden camera videos and I did this experiment.
03:41:44.140
We had a woman go out into the street and ask men, point blank period, do you want to
03:41:58.300
Um, but also like how attractive are both parties?
03:42:02.500
Because if the man is like super attractive, then maybe he'll have a very high success rate
03:42:10.300
But does that mean then that women have higher standards and that we don't want to just go
03:42:20.900
You can afford, so you can, so women can afford to say no.
03:42:30.720
Well, when we're talking about it, yes, I would love, yeah, of course, I'd love for
03:42:35.980
We're in a courtship over an elongated period of time.
03:42:38.880
Has nothing to do with the fact though, that if you look at intersex dynamics, most men
03:42:46.920
What does that say about their standards though?
03:42:49.360
It says that there's so much in the form of rejection, they can't afford to say no.
03:43:00.980
I think that we have this primary edict of dating.
03:43:13.480
But I feel like if a less attractive by society standards woman went up and asked the same
03:43:18.840
amount of people that a more attractive woman did, she probably would get rejected too.
03:43:30.260
You can actually take a woman who is like a four, right?
03:43:39.040
Dude, maybe I just, maybe like the guys that I know in my life are just dicks.
03:43:48.020
It's like the average woman has the equivalent sexual optionality as an A-list celebrity.
03:43:53.280
Like in order for a guy to, like every single woman here at this table, if you guys were
03:43:58.380
so inclined, you could fuck like seven dudes in a day.
03:44:15.760
So in order for a man to be able to achieve this, he literally has to reach the pinnacle
03:44:24.740
Now, there's a couple different ways he can do this.
03:44:26.820
Either he can be top percentile in looks, which I mean, even then, I think most, even
03:44:33.320
if he's really good looking, he's going to struggle to fuck seven new women in a day.
03:44:37.440
But he's going to have to be an A-list celebrity.
03:44:39.800
So A-list musician, professional athlete, famous movie actor.
03:44:53.740
And this is where we get the idea of like groupies from.
03:44:59.880
It's like, that's the type of guy who has the same option as a random chick at the bar.
03:45:05.320
I would love to be like a hot man for one day and just see what it's like.
03:45:11.100
There's tons of women who do experiments where they pretend to be men.
03:45:19.320
In fact, the one woman who was very famous for living as a man, I think it was for roughly
03:45:37.920
Because of the way that men speak to each other?
03:45:43.040
If you kill yourself because you get rejected, you should go to therapy, please.
03:45:49.680
No, but I'm sure that there's other ways you could deal with that than...
03:45:56.460
My challenge to you is to start a dating profile as just a mid-man.
03:46:08.380
And then just try to approach women on this dating profile.
03:46:12.860
And then next time you're on, come back and show me all the responses.
03:46:15.720
And when you're crying and you're in tears and you're like, my God, I didn't know that
03:46:19.080
women were such vicious, heinous fucking monsters, I'm going to laugh my ass off.
03:46:44.740
By your responses, it kind of sounds a little to me.
03:46:53.560
Like, it's almost as if you're very negative on women.
03:47:08.780
So, you just said, you asked him if he hates women.
03:47:15.240
Do you know what the definition of misogyny is?
03:47:18.360
I mean, I don't want to, like I said, I don't want to use that word because...
03:47:21.880
You're literally, it's the same thing that you're trying to imply.
03:47:25.320
You're implying he hates women, misogyny, hatred of women.
03:47:31.280
Because, like, that's a very, I mean, in today's society, it's a very, like, what, how do I say, how can I put this?
03:47:38.080
It's a very, just like feminism, like people, we don't really understand the definitions of, like, feminism or misogynistic, so I don't really know.
03:47:46.900
I'm just asking that question because the response is just giving, like, women are the problem.
03:47:54.720
I'm not saying that you, you, I mean, that's how my, that is how I'm interpreting your response to the questions that we're giving you.
03:48:01.860
So, I'm just asking, you know, do you hate women?
03:48:07.360
Because based on the responses that you gave when it came to pregnancy and having kids, it sounds to me like you really hate children.
03:48:19.460
Based on the answers that you gave about wanting to adopt, not wanting to give your husband kids, it sounds to me like you hate children.
03:48:25.080
But how would I hate children if I won't go into a dog?
03:48:29.860
How could I hate women if I'm in a room having a conversation with them?
03:48:33.420
I'm just, I mean, but you can still have conversations with people and still hate them.
03:48:41.500
I'm just interpreting what you're doing just like you're interpreting what I'm doing.
03:48:51.820
Yeah, I interpret that you don't want to give your husband children because you hate children and you hate husbands.
03:49:01.020
I mean, I'm married, so I don't really necessarily...
03:49:09.000
Because I'm going from, like, an emotional standpoint.
03:49:59.920
They tried to compare, like, Mario, Maria, both 25.
03:50:07.640
Basically, this could be brother-sister, right?
03:50:12.080
Um, the woman, and these are both pretty average-looking, maybe even slightly below-average-looking, uh, female...
03:50:22.460
Yeah, female, 100-plus likes or whatever, male, zero.
03:50:28.180
So, below-average-looking woman, uh, even she can fuck a bunch of dudes.
03:50:34.300
Mario, like, most of you ain't swiping right on Mario.
03:50:44.180
I was just gonna make a comment of something that...
03:50:46.860
Um, cause I have guy friends that have talked to me about these kinds of things.
03:50:50.960
Anyways, but yeah, they make it so that the men also have to pay for it, so they can get, like...
03:51:03.340
Like, it's, it's, uh, I think they try to make it, the app to design it so that men pay
03:51:11.120
I saw my friend showed me, like, his app, and I was like, wow, that's crazy.
03:51:16.800
And they advertise the women he's attracted to only in, like, the paying section.
03:51:22.240
Um, and then we have the age, uh, forward for, uh, Barbie over here.
03:51:45.900
You look, you look at my, my age up versus that one.
03:52:09.600
We'll bring our men back for M military and send only women out and do all the heavy lifting
03:52:15.980
Women can pay for everything and fight the burglar at 2 a.m.
03:52:27.760
And then when we beg for the men back, just like have them come back.
03:52:34.320
I think he's trying to show us that we couldn't, that we couldn't.
03:52:39.900
We wouldn't be able to have children without men.
03:52:41.560
We wouldn't be able to have houses without men.
03:52:46.340
We wouldn't be able to have a patriarchal society.
03:52:56.720
Like, so if all men disappeared, I would say that, well, here, I'll give you both examples.
03:53:03.140
So if all women disappeared, this would be the end of the human species.
03:53:08.260
There would be losses in certain fields that could be very detrimental.
03:53:14.500
However, of all the surviving men, most of them would continue surviving.
03:53:22.240
But, I mean, we would all survive until we all die.
03:53:39.340
I think a lot of women would actually have parties.
03:53:47.220
I would say 50% of women are dead within three weeks.
03:53:55.360
We'd, like, fuck up the machinery and, like, make the ozone layer, like, open all the way up.
03:54:01.400
And then we'd all die of, like, radiation poisoning.
03:54:04.300
No, it's just men are so involved in critical infrastructure that women are not involved in these fields.
03:54:12.340
There wouldn't be the knowledge base to be able to replace them.
03:54:16.320
Uh, and also, not only that, even if there was enough women to get into these fields, like, the, the cascading, the cascading chaos that would ensue, uh, it just, everything would be completely fucked.
03:54:45.880
No, I wasn't going to say that I think that we would be able, that everything would be peachy keen if all men just disappeared.
03:54:50.940
But I'm saying that wouldn't it be nice if our society didn't rely so heavily on one part of the species?
03:54:55.920
Wouldn't it be nice if it was a little bit more equal?
03:54:57.520
It doesn't have to be inherently completely equal.
03:55:00.380
But there needs to be, well, that's not the point.
03:55:04.700
Honestly, where the fuck are all the women oil workers?
03:55:09.260
I bet they look real cute in those uniforms, too.
03:55:19.080
They have to take the standard and then lower it.
03:55:21.480
Who's going to do, who's going to do all the OnlyFans?
03:55:40.280
Wouldn't it be nice if society didn't have to rely so much on one sex?
03:55:53.880
If I'm ever in a sticky situation, I'm hiring you as my damn lawyer.
03:56:13.880
Your ex got your best friend pregnant, had babies with her, then wanted you back.
03:56:28.280
I guess I was just prompting you if you want to give a little more detail.
03:56:34.280
I was like, I didn't even know what I was going on.
03:56:36.980
Anyways, I thought, yeah, I thought this was completely different, but this is a vibe.
03:56:50.540
So, I ended up breaking up with him because I found out he was talking to other women.
03:56:56.160
Not like, he was like, you know, DMing girls, whatever, which is still cheating in my opinion.
03:57:01.160
But, so then, but then I ended up in a situationship because I, at the time, wasn't secure enough to walk away, which is why this was a while ago.
03:57:10.940
So, I've not, I would never tolerate this again or now moving forward.
03:57:15.180
But, I just really wanted a future with him and I couldn't let it go.
03:57:20.940
And, I was willing to almost not have kids just to keep him around, which is crazy because, like, my biggest goal in life, like, one of them is I want a family.
03:57:30.800
And, it's just ironic because when they, then they, me and him were still seeing each other, but then she went after him.
03:57:46.040
And, and then I got reached out to that, like, they were pregnant, ironically, and keeping it, keeping them, there's twins.
03:57:52.660
And, so, yeah, and then he reached out, like, I don't know, and was basically, like, I regret X, Y, Z, or blah, blah, blah, you know, just, not, not the kids.
03:58:14.180
Uh, and I, I think this is the same guy you found out he had seven side chicks who all became friends, and you later found out a few of the girls financially supported him, and he would always buy you Uber Eats on their accounts when we were hanging out.
03:58:31.620
That guy, like, I wasn't, like, yeah, I was just like.
03:58:33.820
Where can the chat go to worship this gentleman?
03:58:41.300
I was like, oh, he's so nice, like, um, kind of, like, thought he was kind of dumb, like, you know, and then, but I found out, like, maybe eight, seven, or eight months later that, oh, he had seven side chicks?
03:58:52.260
Like, that's crazy, but, you know, it, I mean, I don't know the whole story.
03:58:57.480
I don't, I don't think it was at the same time as me.
03:58:59.520
They, the girls were convinced, but I didn't know who they were.
03:59:02.140
They knew who I was, and then I found out that, um, yeah, they were financially supporting him, but what a king.
03:59:08.920
If women can do it, like, why can't, why can't I?
03:59:13.800
Uh, you said that you wanted to talk about red flags for screen flags and why women are attracted to red flags.
03:59:19.820
I didn't know we were going to, like, go down everything I, like, wrote down in this.
03:59:23.200
Um, yeah, so, I definitely become a, like, I've, red flags can be attractive, and, and that's not a good thing, but women, and men probably, too, you know, sometimes we flock to, like, red flags.
03:59:39.020
I mean, a lot of it has to do with our childhoods and, and things like that, but, uh, it's, it's hard to break what you're, the way that you're shown love as a child, um, and that's how, when you're an adult, that's what feels normal.
03:59:53.300
So, when someone's really nice to you, let's say, not saying my dad was bad in any ways, but there's certain traits of, like, didn't let you cry, didn't, like, let you talk, like, just, like, these little things.
04:00:07.000
And so, basically, there, yeah, there's certain things that I subconsciously am attracted to that are red flags that I shouldn't be attracted to.
04:00:24.060
So, if Chad was in here right now treating you like shit?
04:00:35.160
Chad, some, some, like, really good looking dude was in here treating you like shit?
04:00:42.240
Whatever you think is a really good looking dude.
04:00:44.660
What are some of the red flags that you'll tolerate or whatever?
04:00:51.960
Well, it's not, like, treating you poorly, right?
04:00:53.640
It's just, like, you know, I, like, you know, I like to, they like to drink every day, you know, and it's, like.
04:01:01.940
And then, and then if they do that, how do they treat you?
04:01:06.540
Well, a lot of the guys that I've dated, like, pretend, like, they don't have these red flags.
04:01:09.880
And then once I love them, then they're like, oh, hey, by the way, I'm a huge alcoholic and yada yada.
04:01:17.160
And when they're, when they're drunk, they treat you better or worse?
04:01:22.000
So, the one that got my best friend pregnant, better when he was drunk.
04:01:28.000
The other one, when he did, you know, drink and stuff, he was, like, really mean and, like, distant and, like, hostile and stuff.
04:01:35.680
But I'm definitely not trying to date, like, a heavy drinker in the future.
04:01:38.820
Not, like, I can date someone who, like, can have a drink.
04:01:41.200
But I'm not trying to date someone that every single day has to get, like, wasted to deal with life.
04:01:45.820
Yeah, going around the table on this one, though, who here, I guess, ignores red flags in a man?
04:02:07.080
I had to get done so astronomically dirty that I was like, wow, I can literally never tolerate anything ever again.
04:02:14.520
And that's why I've been single for so long, I think.
04:02:17.660
I kind of give them the benefit of the doubt, so.
04:02:20.380
You want to believe in, like, you put them on this pedestal and you, you know.
04:02:36.520
So, women often complain that men are toxic or abusive.
04:02:42.780
But, and I don't, I think most men, like, don't go down this path.
04:02:47.580
But, when men are young, they see the men that, like, when you're 18, 19, 20, other men in your peer group see the men that you guys are going after at that age.
04:03:01.860
And they see you, they hear you even if they're friends with you, complain.
04:03:05.920
You complain about, oh, he's such a jerk, he's such an asshole, blah, blah, blah.
04:03:10.360
You guys engage in sexual relationships with these men.
04:03:17.880
Men have major motivation when it comes to wanting to find a girlfriend.
04:03:29.000
Like, because you reward the men who are abusive.
04:03:40.260
I think it's because women are very, like, I'm not saying every woman ever, obviously, but a lot of women are very emotionally abusive.
04:03:48.840
So, then that makes the man want to react to the emotional abuse and the manipulation or whatever that the woman is doing.
04:03:58.020
I'm not saying, like, that, oh, he should have punched her in the face.
04:04:00.820
So, I think, like, maybe me and Brian even disagree a little here.
04:04:06.440
And I do think that they fit the criteria and modernity of what abuse is.
04:04:16.440
The things that women consider to be toxic traits, which is, it's usually too much of the thing that they like.
04:04:29.000
But then, if the man backs it off, even an inch.
04:04:36.580
So, it's like, so, all of these things which are considered toxic masculinity, right?
04:04:42.260
All those toxically masculine men, they seem to be getting plenty of women.
04:04:46.580
They don't seem to have much problem with that at all.
04:04:49.580
When you say abuse, especially verbal abuse, right?
04:04:53.620
This is the idea of a man basically just saying no, right?
04:05:01.020
I haven't actually heard, there are some situations where, like, he called me this, he called me that, and they said some horrible shit.
04:05:12.100
But most of the time, it's just like, he just said no.
04:05:20.560
What I think, ultimately, is that men who say no and are very toxic in their masculinity basically got nothing to worry about.
04:05:30.980
Aren't you training them to be toxically masculine?
04:05:33.500
I kind of agree with you, to be completely honest.
04:05:39.640
I don't know if training is the right word, but I do think that women generally.
04:05:51.400
But I do think that women, is that how you want me to say it?
04:05:58.100
No, but I do think that they participate in holding up the patriarchy to an extent.
04:06:02.100
And I know that you guys don't like to say the patriarchy, but when it comes to.
04:06:06.800
But when it comes to, like, how you're saying, kind of, like, the overtly masculine, like, not, because not that masculine is inherently a bad thing, but, like, where it gets to be, I don't remember.
04:06:19.200
Because I do think that that is occasionally upheld by women and their standards.
04:06:25.800
How come all these blue-haired feminist chicks are always fucking the most toxically masculine men ever?
04:06:32.320
Because I'm not going to sit here and say that it's only men that are the problem.
04:06:37.820
Like, my brother, he has had some seriously insane girlfriends who I am like, how are you a real person?
04:06:44.660
But I've also had, you know, and that's why I think we talked about this last time, but I think it comes down to, are you just a moral person or are you not?
04:06:52.360
And that has kind of nothing to do with gender.
04:06:54.020
But I do think it's more acceptable in tolerated in relationships for a man to be a little bit more on the crazy side.
04:07:05.720
It is definitely not more tolerated for the man to be crazy than the woman.
04:07:11.440
But I will ask you this again, because I feel like he kind of evaded.
04:07:16.020
The blue-haired feminist lunatic who is skyscreaming at the top of her lungs, why is it that she ends up fucking the toxically masculine man?
04:07:27.280
Why is it that women are saying, I want a man who acts like a conservative but has my liberal values?
04:07:39.560
Because what is considered to be toxically masculine, right, is not toxic at all.
04:07:53.840
Let me give you an example of some toxic masculinity.
04:07:57.800
So, there are men I know, not me, of course, I would never do anything like this before.
04:08:03.280
There are men I know who they will go out to a shooting range, and I've been with men like this, and they will just unload on a target.
04:08:13.620
Then a small little fluffy rabbit will run across the range.
04:08:16.960
And they'll blast that motherfucker just to watch it explode.
04:08:32.960
But the point is, is that Fluffy gets blown to bits, right?
04:08:36.580
Like, those dudes, they never hop in the car with a chick who's like, oh, honey, I can't believe that you killed.
04:08:48.440
So, the thing is, is like, all the things that you would consider toxically masculine.
04:08:54.120
Video games where, you know, you roll through the town, and he'd just kill everything that you see.
04:09:01.980
When you're talking about toxic masculine traits, it seems to only be the idea of you are using your masculinity as a weapon to defeat some absurdity that I have over here.
04:09:24.700
Tell us your favorite green flags in a partner that is undervalued.
04:09:28.680
Yo, Techno Trooper, thank you so much for the $200 TTS.
04:09:37.180
Tell us your favorite green flags in a partner that is undervalued.
04:09:41.580
I think somebody who listens and gives you good advice.
04:09:44.620
Like, I appreciate a partner that I can get advice from.
04:09:47.000
Like, someone who doesn't mind hearing about my daily trials and tribulations because they want to genuinely help me through it.
04:09:58.100
I think that people are very, like, okay with their partner not really being interested in what they do on a daily basis or, like, you know, disputes with people.
04:10:08.300
By the way, Lucy, do you prefer from front or your side?
04:10:13.160
If I'm being so honest, my, like, exact side profile is not it.
04:10:17.320
Yeah, so you might want to, you tend to lean, like, you're looking that way.
04:10:31.560
We have that, like, wicked witch thing going on on that side.
04:10:35.020
That's probably the most brutal insult I've ever heard.
04:10:39.820
It's like that, um, it's like, uh, what's that, uh, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, where he talks to the side of his mouth.
04:10:50.560
You should never be able to quote Ferris Bueller.
04:10:56.600
How about just the undervalued part's going to confuse the girl.
04:11:04.420
I also think, like, the underrated maybe is feeling like the, like the safe, like a man making you feel safe.
04:11:14.980
Um, sometimes I'm a little out of line, and being able to have someone confront me and critique me for her.
04:11:45.180
I've actually been relatively quiet this episode.
04:11:49.120
But anyways, I have maybe some issues because of the way I was brought up with arguing and about being really quick to start an argument.
04:11:55.020
And my ex-boyfriend kind of had to be like, Lucy, I need you to not raise your voice at me.
04:11:59.520
And I need you to genuinely just not do that because it doesn't make me feel good.
04:12:05.340
And then we didn't get into fights as much because it was never going to that high.
04:12:09.180
No, because he respected me and he understood why it was that way.
04:12:18.020
Everyone needs to be put in their place sometimes.
04:12:19.440
I definitely need a man who can put me in my place.
04:12:21.800
The thing is, it's like all of these things that you would consider to be toxic masculinity.
04:12:24.760
No, because he's not telling me, Lucy, shut up.
04:12:29.920
He thinks that he thought that basically I didn't respect him because I was speaking to him in a way that I might speak to my family who has lots of argumentative dialogue.
04:12:37.620
But the thing is, he's telling you, if you don't have anything good to say in a tone that's nice to say, shut up.
04:12:49.780
He just didn't like it when I would actually raise my voice.
04:12:52.400
So that way it was able to diffuse the conversation because I wouldn't get that angry.
04:12:55.760
So if you couldn't get into the conversation without raising your voice, what should you have done?
04:13:05.320
If that's what you want to take away from that.
04:13:11.900
So what's the kind of context that you're doing in a relationship that's been an issue?
04:13:21.720
I guess because before I was like, oh, I haven't really dated that much.
04:13:26.140
But I've like talked with and had friends with benefits relationships.
04:13:42.380
When a guy is able to constructively criticize something.
04:13:46.860
So what are you doing which is eliciting the criticism?
04:14:02.400
Like, cause I would just go along with whatever was happening.
04:14:36.640
Like I wasn't being like actively myself in the relationship.
04:14:44.620
So it's like, like being too passive and not being like, oh, I hate when this happens
04:14:57.540
Because he'd be like more interested in me sometimes.
04:15:14.720
I mean, to be, to be fair to her, Brian, what she's actually saying is that she was too
04:15:29.280
And your boyfriend was like, I need you to be more of a bitch.
04:15:53.500
Sometimes it's easier to just let the people have the one-on-one so we can get through it.
04:15:59.420
Well, you seem really eager to get through it so we can like move on.
04:16:03.860
I'm trying to think of how to elaborate on it though because it was like, like it wasn't super serious and then we would go like in and out of phases of being like, oh, we should like make this serious.
04:16:30.680
Did I answer your question all right or do you have anything else for me?
04:16:37.340
I think that a green flag is like when, like, someone is able to tell me what they want and need even if I don't want to hear it.
04:16:59.100
My favorite green flag in a guy is when, like, they have active goals that they're, like, working towards so they're not, like, just being lazy all day.
04:17:06.540
Um, my green flags are a guy that is understanding of me and who I am as a woman and also a man who, like you said, is a go-getter.
04:17:20.920
So, like, my green flag is when he opens the door, like, you open the car door every time I go to the car.
04:17:40.160
You realize that I do that for complete strangers.
04:17:49.680
Yeah, but doesn't, I mean, that's just common courtesy, right?
04:17:52.380
Yeah, but, like, if I'm seeing a dude, like, no, it's really not common courtesy.
04:17:57.220
I, one time, went to the movie theaters, and this dude opened the door for himself, and then, like, it slammed back, and I was outside.
04:18:15.440
Um, mine would probably be when you, like, deep conversations.
04:18:19.760
Like, when you can just go out, and, like, go on a nice drive, and then it's just deep conversation, you're opening up.
04:18:27.280
All right, let's have a deep conversation right now.
04:18:57.940
No, because I kind of trauma dump, and, like, stuff like that to, like, other people, I guess.
04:19:03.740
Wait, you can only have a deep conversation about trauma?
04:19:09.140
Okay, let's have a deep conversation about something that's not trauma.
04:19:11.720
But, like, you can have, like, deep conversations, like, about the goals.
04:19:33.640
Also, aliens, not a particularly deep conversation.
04:19:58.480
And then all of a sudden, like, we all open up.
04:20:43.220
Give me an example of a time you had this deep conversation.
04:21:05.860
Like TikToks about women complaining about like men when you go on dates with them.
04:21:16.480
There are women who are like good conversationalists that I've encountered.
04:21:24.840
I've never been on a date where like my experience was.
04:21:39.320
Do you do deep conversations when you're on dates with women?
04:21:58.220
That I can have a deep conversation with a woman.
04:22:11.260
I frankly don't care about having deep conversations.
04:22:15.480
Like you're usually talking about the future in your deep conversations.
04:22:20.460
Like what I said about like adoption and stuff like that.
04:22:55.280
Women are attracted by attributes that are toxically masculine.
04:22:58.800
Because they are proxies for resource provisioning.
04:23:54.140
People accept the love that they think that they deserve.
04:24:01.000
It's because they probably have pretty low self-esteem.
04:24:05.980
People who have higher standards for themselves.
04:24:19.860
How much do I have to donate to get you to say man.
04:24:24.540
One woman will be triggered on a millennial level.
04:24:31.820
And I will use man instead of men for the plural.
04:24:51.960
This is something which happens on this show repeatedly.
04:26:30.180
Can you give us the details of the sex addiction?
04:26:38.380
And why I got banned off of all those dating apps.
04:26:58.680
But it was like such an addiction at that point.
04:28:25.540
If you don't mind me asking, you said like your body, you said you did damage to your body
04:28:32.000
I would just let people do whatever they wanted.
04:28:39.540
Basically, I mean, I just say, yeah, go for it.
04:28:45.680
Hypersexuality, like, hypersexuality is a real thing.
04:28:54.600
And people don't take it as a serious addiction and it really, really is, especially today and
04:28:59.560
with these young men that are just, you know, and I don't know.
04:29:27.420
I don't have it anymore, but I did contract it because I didn't care.
04:29:34.900
And when I got with my boyfriend, I had these red spots all over my body.
04:29:49.720
So I go to the doctor and I wouldn't have gone to the doctor if it wasn't for him because
04:29:53.680
I was thinking, oh, it's just going to go away.
04:29:58.740
Um, so if I had gone any longer, I, I would be, basically my brain would be getting eaten
04:30:25.080
Because to, like, bring up hard conversations like that is super duper important.
04:30:30.640
Like, these are really things that people should, like, acknowledge about.
04:30:35.360
But, like, you're being vulnerable and that's super hard and, like, scary.
04:30:48.080
And I imagine it probably doesn't help when people like to, like, you know, hate on body
04:30:54.880
And it's, like, in some, like, obviously you do have control over some parts of it.
04:30:58.400
But some, in some parts you really don't, you know.
04:31:00.220
And, like, and then you just start to, like, feel really bad about yourself.
04:31:03.620
And even if it's something that you maybe didn't want to be true and happening, it, you
04:31:10.180
But you have moved into a different chapter of your life.
04:31:14.680
In fact, you can be, like, vulnerable about it.
04:31:20.840
Like, this is something that people don't talk about, but probably a lot of people go
04:31:35.060
You said that to your now current boyfriend who you've been with for, like, two and a half
04:31:40.720
years, you had, you had the syphilis when you met him?
04:32:00.900
Had you had carnal knowledge with your boyfriend while you were?
04:32:09.440
Like, we literally couldn't have sex for, like, a couple months because of it.
04:32:12.560
Because we wanted to make sure it was completely gone.
04:32:14.460
And then we had to get tested again to make sure that it was gone before we could continue.
04:32:23.220
And the fact that he's bisexual didn't contribute to that at all?
04:32:29.000
It was before I met him that I had contracted him.
04:32:49.060
But isn't that, like, a pointed lesson as to why promiscuity is so awful?
04:33:20.820
How the hell are we going to switch this conversation topic?
04:33:23.900
How the hell are we going to move on from this?
04:33:27.660
Yeah, honestly, it kind of looks like it was on purpose.
04:33:36.920
Like, was it three months in when you figured out you had syphilis?
04:33:40.220
It was literally, like, a couple weeks that we had, like, known each other for.
04:33:44.820
And he was like, hey, what are these spots all over your back?
04:33:50.300
And when I went to the doctor, they confirmed that it was the stage 2 syphilis.
04:34:40.320
Like, I got these just, like, red spots all over my body.
04:34:55.540
Everybody in the chat's looking at their bodies right now.
04:35:14.640
I have a suspicion that it was this one guy who I had...
04:35:26.340
Like, I had hooked up with him a few times, and he was always, like, on Coke or something
04:35:36.480
And I suspect that it was him, because when I told him...
04:35:41.360
Because, you know, when you find out that you have syphilis, you tell all of your previous
04:35:54.500
And I suspected it was him, because when I told him, he just said, oh, okay, thanks.
04:36:06.520
You knew you had bugs, and you gave it to me, and you don't give a fuck.
04:36:26.220
Yes, I think he was only, like, three or four years older than me.
04:36:32.440
Because if you're 20, and you've been with your...
04:36:37.480
Wait, you were, so you're 17, and you had stage two syphilis?
04:36:49.500
I'm trying to remember, actually, because I don't know if it was before or after summer.
04:37:01.020
Well, I guess, sorry to hear about that experience, although it sounds like...
04:37:09.780
I was like, that was kind of therapeutic, low-key.
04:37:13.100
But, I mean, it's good that you're no longer a sex addict.
04:37:17.420
Well, you fuck women, so you're not in a misrelationship.
04:37:20.260
At least I check with people before I have sex with them.
04:37:25.640
Wait, I don't know if you mentioned that, but did you tell your partner prior when you
04:37:31.560
first started dating him that you had syphilis, or you didn't know?
04:37:37.160
I knew that they were there, but he was the one that said, like, you need to get this
04:37:58.100
Yo, Andrew, if you were single back in your player days, if a girl gave you syphilis,
04:38:12.720
Now, to be fair and charitable to her, I also didn't have the carnal need of having a seven-inch
04:38:26.920
Maybe he'll take a couple of needles to, you know.
04:38:31.060
Well, he also, like, kind of passes out when he sees needles.
04:38:34.120
So that's why I also feel really bad, because he has, like, a really bad shirt.
04:39:02.580
He could, but I'm lucky enough that he never has.
04:39:08.280
I feel like that's a really good trump card to just, like...
04:39:36.220
Lots of things come to mind when I think masculine.
04:39:40.320
Listen, I'm a bartender, and I know some fucking, like, dudes that are...
04:39:45.560
...taking things in places, like, that you would never expect.
04:39:50.620
And I know who they're getting with, who's in the bar.
04:40:01.840
It's like when Jeffree Star was, like, you'd be so surprised who's in my DMs.
04:40:48.100
So, guys, TTS temporarily, for about 10, 20 minutes, is going to be reduced to $69 if
04:41:08.060
My boyfriend and I called ourselves the syphilis sisters.
04:41:28.520
If you want, get a $69 TTS in streamlabs.com slash whatever.
04:41:40.720
We're also going to get pizza here for the guys.
04:41:50.920
Well, you guys have your own, but we already have some.
04:42:06.580
I'm just going to have some bread with marinara.
04:42:12.640
I have pizza on order, but I really don't know if I can eat right now.
04:42:23.000
Except that I always make them wash their mouth after eating meat, though.
04:42:27.020
But they're doing horrible, moral things, and they're killing people.
04:42:29.340
Well, who am I to tell somebody how to live their life?
04:42:50.840
Wait, you make guys wash out their mouth, like, before they kiss you or whatever?
04:42:54.700
Like, this girl that I was dating, she was, like, a very big carnivore.
04:42:59.820
And so, like, whenever we'd go out to eat, she'd order something meaty.
04:43:02.700
But, like, I would not let her kiss me until she'd given, like, a little rinse.
04:43:05.660
Because it tastes like meat in their mouth after they're done eating.
04:43:12.020
That's the part, like, I don't even care about that part.
04:43:14.860
This is the part that I care about that I don't understand.
04:43:17.420
You're a vegan because you consider animals to be on par with people.
04:43:22.660
I'm a vegan because I don't believe in factory farming.
04:43:25.620
If I was living in Europe where it was much more humane practice, I would totally eat cheese and meat.
04:43:30.080
It's just because in America we do it really poorly here.
04:43:32.140
Then why not just go to, like, get farm fresh shit?
04:43:34.020
Yeah, no, I eat eggs from the farmer's market and my aunt has chickens, so I eat those.
04:43:40.160
For me it's not because I think the animals are on par with people, but it's because I think that their, like, abuse is still abuse.
04:43:58.480
But, I mean, the eggs are going to be laid regardless.
04:44:01.440
I also, like, if something's going to be thrown away, like, if it's going in the trash, because for me it's also about the environmental approach.
04:44:07.340
So if that had farm fresh bacon on it, would you eat it?
04:44:11.080
Well, first of all, meat just kind of grosses me out at this point because I've been vegan for almost six years.
04:44:15.300
So it just kind of grosses me out at this point.
04:44:17.300
Like, if I'm in Europe, though, like, if I'm in Italy, I'm going to have some cheese.
04:44:21.040
But that's because I'm in Italy and they don't...
04:44:23.200
They're not putting their cows and fucking, like, feeding dudes or, like, grabbing the shit like that.
04:44:26.900
I don't understand. How could bacon gross you out, but not eggs?
04:44:29.940
I didn't say bacon doesn't smell delicious, but I, like...
04:44:39.540
Well, I just love eggs. They're just delicious.
04:44:42.020
But I'm not going to go to, like, Ralph's and put some eggs.
04:44:52.260
Because I want you to know, like, it's not that I don't believe in the eating and, like, consuming of animals.
04:44:56.820
I just don't think the way that we do it in America is practiced humanly at all.
04:45:00.580
Yeah, but that's not veganism. That's vegetarianism.
04:45:10.140
Well, yeah, it kind of is. Like, the abuse of the animals and...
04:45:13.500
Well, they think animals should have the same rights as people.
04:45:17.840
I don't think... I think all that shit is stupid.
04:45:21.880
Like, they give slightly more consideration to a human?
04:45:26.260
I'm not going to go out here, like, pouring paint on fur coats.
04:45:29.780
I have leather boots, like, that are hand-me-downs because it's, like, I'm not going to throw them away.
04:45:33.860
I'm not going to not use it if it's already been created.
04:45:36.500
I'm just all about reduce your use, recycle, my man.
04:45:42.500
After everything you've heard me say, you should not be surprised that I'm a pussy.
04:45:47.740
Like, when they, like, do the thing where they, like...
04:45:50.240
Yeah, like, yeah, they humanely kill it and they do, like, a prayer before they kill the animal.
04:46:01.120
Because I work at a restaurant where we serve primarily meat, so it's, like, in my job to have to upsell those steaks and stuff.
04:46:10.440
I was vegetarian for four years, and when I ate meat for the first time, I almost threw up.
04:46:18.440
I guess, like, something about, like, your microbiome and your stomach or something, it doesn't, like, have the enzymes anymore.
04:46:28.880
She accidentally took a bite of a chicken quesadilla after being vegetarian, like, pretty much her whole life, because she thought it was regular, just quesadilla.
04:46:47.260
That's why I date people who, I don't, like, I'm not going to police your actions.
04:47:00.460
They have, like, a nice garden, too, so they get fed all these good, good scraps.
04:47:05.180
When I cook a steak for me, well, funny thing you say that, actually.
04:47:08.720
One time I was at one of my, like, mutual friends' houses, and I was, like, it was a bunch of these guys who, like, come from money, so I think that a lot of times they have things kind of done for them.
04:47:18.440
And if you guys know anything about grilling, you don't leave the grill.
04:47:25.160
They freaking abandoned the grill, so now there's, I'm over here, the vegan, flipping the damn burgers for these freaking grown men.
04:47:37.340
Please ask chairs three, five, and seven to stop talking in a whisper voice like they're about to pass out.
04:47:51.960
I've, like, never whispered this whole podcast, so I'm so sorry.
04:47:56.080
I've also talked as well, but maybe I'm just not close enough, and I am more soft-spoken.
04:48:45.460
A stoma is when they put a hole in your stomach to bypass the end of your digestive system.
04:48:51.120
You hook up a bag instead of having to pass away.
04:48:54.700
Do they do that with, like, people of eating disorders?
04:48:56.820
Well, that can be a reason why you would have one, but, like, also just, like, if you have, like, a colonoscopy or something, I think.
04:49:09.360
Lucy, please say one woman greeted three women.
04:49:14.140
Also, please get over to Appalachia and start rebuilding people's houses.
04:49:23.200
I just genuinely never realized that I pronounced it like that.
04:49:33.960
So, you won't eat bacon, but you'll happily much on some lady's pastrami.
04:49:48.000
I wish that that was right in Donald Trump's voice.
04:49:54.780
I just want you to guess what you think the answer to that is.
04:49:57.940
Well, I mean, I would think that you, being as familiar as you are with women,
04:50:20.260
Last time Brian put on the Kamala, the Biden shirt, that was so good.
04:50:31.840
I think the trade was she had to put on a MAGA hat or something for it.
04:50:42.800
If you're attracted to a red flag man because you can change him,
04:50:50.920
and for the same reason you think you can change a man.
04:51:06.980
Daryl underscore Frank Castle, 512, donated $69.
04:51:22.320
Funny all those tears and her makeup didn't run.
04:52:12.540
Missy, if you eat now, how are you going to eat your 2 a.m. slop?
04:52:34.840
Like, I would eat dinner at 2 a.m. every night, so they make fun of me for it.
04:52:45.920
She openly states what she thinks people want to hear so as to be accepted, then readily
04:52:55.180
Big Sas Energy, you know everything about my life.
04:53:22.060
I love that you're laughing about it now, honestly.
04:53:38.880
Can you guys do a roast that's actually funny, please?
04:53:55.600
Some of the panel look like I can gather good dating advice from if I was crazy and 20
04:54:03.440
Starting with Lucy Goosey, what's your biggest ick?
04:54:12.300
We were just, like, at the bar playing pool, and he was like, that girl could lose a bunch
04:54:16.980
And I was like, well, okay, like, that might be true, but you don't...
04:54:21.820
What did you gain from saying that might be true?
04:54:24.500
Well, I'm saying, like, regardless of whether or not it's true, it doesn't mean that, like,
04:54:29.140
Yeah, but what did you gain by confirming it was true?
04:54:47.800
So, when guys, like, talk shit about their closest friends and, like, try to prove that
04:55:04.060
Because that's, like, a terrible trait in, I think, in a man.
04:55:13.760
Sorry, Bill, then they started talking, and I was, like...
04:55:17.660
And I was going to say, I don't like interrupting men, and ones that just talk, and I try and
04:55:41.900
I guess, like, not taking care of yourself, like, physically, like, if you're just someone...
04:55:49.460
Like, not like, oh, if you're depressed and you don't shower for, like, three days one
04:55:53.380
time, like, no, not like that, but, like, if you're just, like, regularly not taking care
04:55:57.920
of yourself, feeding yourself trash food, like, just not caring at all about yourself,
04:56:02.660
or, like, washing your face or, like, regular shit, like, that's, I don't know, that's kind
04:56:08.740
of an ick when someone doesn't take care of themselves.
04:56:12.800
Can you put it back there or, like, eat back there?
04:56:15.460
Because, I mean, it's fine with the pizza, but...
04:56:31.100
My biggest ick is, like, when they're in love with, like, their mother.
04:56:37.460
Well, like, not in love with their mother, but, like, they have, like, they're super close
04:56:43.880
What's wrong with being super close with your mom?
04:56:52.240
Not like controls him, controls him, but, like...
04:56:54.820
You're, like, how old, and you're still going to your, like, mother for, like, all this
04:57:07.320
Like, my ex, his mom, like, still did everything for his car.
04:57:11.660
Still, like, paid, like, all of her, like, his bills.
04:57:19.920
When you're talking about a man having a good relationship with his mom, that's good.
04:57:44.220
I'd, like, broken down on the side of the road.
04:57:46.500
And, like, I had, like, called to ask him to, like, come help me.
04:57:54.800
And he was, like, complaining to his mom about me.
04:57:56.720
And I was, like, why are you calling your mom right now?
04:57:59.040
And his mom was, like, just told him to leave me on the side of the road.
04:58:13.880
And you don't think that that would be a good cause for mom to not like you?
04:58:29.200
So, she didn't have any cause to dislike a Hooters girl?
04:58:33.720
Like, if you thought of it, think in your head, like, a good mom.
04:58:41.240
Hey, Mom, I'm dating this chick who works at Hooters.
04:58:52.140
Just, in your head, what does the good mom say to Johnny,
04:59:07.840
The good mom's not concerned about how much money she's making, right?
04:59:39.840
Don't date a Hooters chick that's going to end up bad.
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because she thought you were a bad influence, right?
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and you're gonna put your dick all over OnlyFans
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Garner herpesifilitis says catch me if you can buy keys.
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Gynosifahherpalate says catch me if you can't, bitches.
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We're about to turn these off here in just a sec.
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I'll let the remaining ones come through, though.
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but he coincidentally was covered in all these red spots.
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She said she had an STI and they all started crying,
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Chair 1 is trying to reach out, but second-guessed it.
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It's funny, though, because I was going to ask.
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Chair 6, if you took a timed machine into the past
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for the next 20 days, subtracting 100 years each time,
05:04:40.800
But we will do a roast session later on towards the end of the show,
05:04:49.400
I just want to do a little intermission to get people a little bit of food.
05:04:52.600
So going back into the pre-show notes, we have Kenny.
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You describe yourself in your Instagram as emotionally unstable.
05:05:25.140
Just like the men I get with are just like crazy, and that makes me crazy.
05:05:31.820
Are you able to scoot into the table a little bit?
05:05:35.340
On your, I think this is in your OF, you say, you describe yourself as your average,
05:05:54.080
You're a, okay, well, I'm more curious about the nymphomaniac part.
05:06:00.320
I just, like, I like sex, and I like everything that has to do with sex.
05:06:06.820
No, I mean, probably, like, around the time when she was doing it, I was doing that, too.
05:06:13.920
But I got a new phone number, so I got the apps back.
05:06:16.340
Right, you wrote here in your notes that no crazy stories other than when you were 17,
05:06:25.240
you were on every dating app imaginable, you were getting a different guy every day for about a month,
05:06:39.700
You were, when you said you were getting a different guy every day for about a month,
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when you say, what do you mean by getting a different guy?
05:06:50.240
Well, I was, like, I'd say I was sleeping with a guy, like, every other day.
05:06:57.320
I was finding them on their dating apps, and then...
05:07:08.860
I wanted to do what I was going to do, and I did it, so...
05:07:11.600
Did you disclose to them that you were underage?
05:07:16.400
A couple of them did know, because, like, we just met on Snapchat, but...
05:07:26.640
You were inducing men into committing, like, felony sex crimes.
05:07:45.500
If they can go after you at the federal level for this, but...
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I thought that was the Romeo and Juliet law only.
05:07:54.660
Were any of these men, like, over the age of, like, 25 or something, or...?
05:08:17.540
So, that one month, it was probably, like, 10, 15.
05:08:24.000
And how many of that translates to total, then, for you?
05:08:30.600
So, like, after that, like, little phase, I'm just, like, now I'm dating to marry.
05:08:46.640
And, but, of the 19, 15 of them was in the span of a month?
05:09:12.220
So, but that's going to be really short, too, right?
05:09:18.160
That's going to be, that's going to stick, too, right?
05:09:21.020
It's not going to be super short, like, all your other phases?
05:09:27.080
Can you imagine telling somebody, all the phases that I do, they're, like, totally really
05:09:34.380
And you're like, and now I'm in my loyal phase.
05:09:37.760
What, what, what, like, what comes to mind when you say that?
05:09:47.860
The next guy you meet, like, because you said you're dating for marriage, are you going
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I'd say, like, we go on a few dates first, and then let's, like, have sex.
05:10:01.620
But, like, I'm not, like, a first date kind of girl, no.
05:10:09.060
Like, I didn't really care, like, about any of that.
05:10:17.780
You also said your hot take is that cute slash hot girls shouldn't have to work and should
05:10:24.280
just profit off their God-given talent their whole lives?
05:10:30.160
Oh, I mean, so, like, people like me and you also, like, do my job.
05:10:34.860
So, like, I think she should just profit off of that because she's hot.
05:10:38.800
Isn't that, is that why you're trying to get your friend into it?
05:10:41.640
Yes, because she needs more money, and I'm trying to get her money.
05:10:44.760
Like, money makes the world go round, and I love money.
05:10:51.740
Not everyone can stick seven inches up their booty.
05:11:07.520
I mean, I wouldn't, like, say, like, as a flex, like, yeah, I can't put this in my butt.
05:11:15.440
Like, if you have, like, boundaries, isn't that a flex?
05:11:18.720
Like, oh, hey, I'm not going to take this uncomfortable thing and shove it up my ass for money.
05:11:26.580
Yeah, no, but that's not what we're talking about is whether you like it or don't like it.
05:11:35.040
I mean, if it's talent to be able to, you know, stick random thing up orifice, right?
05:11:40.040
Like, why would it not then be a talent to just, I don't know, have boundaries where you don't stick thing up orifice?
05:11:58.320
How much practice does it take to stick something up?
05:12:03.960
Oh, you got to, so you stretched your ass out so you can stick something up?
05:12:17.800
I thought, but wait, I thought it was just a God-given ability to just be pretty, but
05:12:22.800
now you have to practice stretching your asshole out so you can stick seven inches up it?
05:12:27.300
I mean, it's for, like, the video, like, you know, I'm giving them everything.
05:12:30.000
I'm showing you how I do it, like, the whole nine yards.
05:12:34.060
So you actually think, your advice to your friend here, right, would actually be that
05:12:39.540
she should stretch out her asshole on purpose, hang on, so that she can fit stuff up it for
05:12:46.360
No, not her, because she, like, has a whole different dynamic.
05:12:58.760
I think she needs to get into fandom and just bully little men all day.
05:13:04.180
How many subscribers do you have, or whatever they're called?
05:13:18.740
Derry, London, school, Frank, Carson, 512, donated, sick.
05:13:30.300
We actually met at Hooters together when we both served there.
05:13:37.360
And she's been trying to convince you to start putting things in your ass?
05:13:59.520
What I do in the sense of working at a local dealership, I do detailing and running for parts
05:14:10.800
And, like, I need structure and routine in my life to be okay.
05:14:16.780
And I feel like being my own boss would be a little bit challenging.
05:14:21.600
But also, I have, like, had my time on the internet.
05:14:32.000
What does that mean, had your time on the internet?
05:14:34.020
Like, been on online communities where I shouldn't have been.
05:14:54.500
What kind of online communities are you a part of that you shouldn't be a part of?
05:14:59.820
Um, like, there were lots of weird Discord times and kick times and Skype times.
05:15:20.960
Did it have to do with nudity and stuff like this?
05:15:40.620
So, you can't drop the bombshell of, like, yes, I was a member of these communities that were
05:15:52.020
Um, it was exploitative and predatory behavior that used me and made me feel really gross.
05:16:25.460
It also sounds like she doesn't want to get into OnlyFans.
05:16:28.960
So, like, as a friend, like, you should probably not try to pressure her.
05:16:33.520
She literally said on this trip, yeah, I'm going to make it McKenna right when we're in
05:16:44.020
She just doesn't, I don't know, sometimes she doesn't have the motivation to do stuff.
05:16:48.040
And I, like, I don't know, like, I just want you to have that motivation.
05:16:52.280
But, like, I'm saying if you don't want to do it.
05:16:55.600
The thing is, she said she would do this before.
05:16:59.220
She would and wants to are two different things.
05:17:07.720
And that it doesn't sound like she's, like, this is something I'm proud of.
05:17:12.380
So, I don't think that someone who's, like, oh, my God, I really want to OnlyFans.
05:17:15.800
And, like, if that was her vibe, that's her vibe.
05:17:21.420
Like, I'm just saying I've had friends pressure me.
05:17:27.260
It's like you just touch it and it becomes corrupted.
05:17:34.540
She's told me multiple times, like, I will make it and I will do it.
05:17:39.820
And if she's told me no, stop bringing it up, I will stop bringing it up.
05:17:46.180
There's, like, there are a lot of things to think about before starting something like that
05:17:51.020
that I really want to have the time and effort to think about.
05:17:55.860
And there are also repercussions from you having that life.
05:18:01.540
Like, you've been like, Ruby, I'm so, like, I don't know what to do with my day.
05:18:07.880
And, like, in my own life, not even having a lot of money, shopping doesn't bring me happiness
05:18:15.260
I don't really know where you're going with this.
05:18:20.020
Like, you've told me in times, though, where it's made, like, you unhappy.
05:18:25.920
Yeah, like, jobs make people unhappy all the time.
05:18:42.320
And then she goes and says, I don't want to do it.
05:18:54.020
Okay, so why do you keep telling me I will, like, do it?
05:19:00.000
Because it's just such a big step for me that I'm not really ready to take.
05:19:06.440
But, like, I think that you're only getting older.
05:19:09.860
And if you want to do something, you should do it.
05:19:11.480
And, like, I'm not going to pressure you into doing anything.
05:19:20.260
Because here's the thing is before I came on this podcast, I was, like, oh, I'm, like, thinking I might do one after.
05:19:36.760
I've never seen someone, like, who does OnlyFans suggest to do it.
05:19:42.780
Like, even the last time that I was on this podcast and there were some other girls, like, I was talking to one of them.
05:19:46.940
And she was, like, and I was, like, oh, like, ha-ha, like, should I start one?
05:19:50.340
But she was, like, no, I don't think you should.
05:19:52.300
Like, and to each person their own, I'm not saying that, like, what you do is bad.
05:19:56.780
Like, some things that might be really easy for you are more challenging for others.
05:20:01.180
And it's, like, if she has that boundary, I think also would and should are completely different things.
05:20:11.260
But I can imagine that it would be pretty taxing.
05:20:20.740
I felt an energy and it was kind of making me uncomfortable.
05:20:23.500
And, like, she does not seem like she wants to make an OnlyFans.
05:20:25.880
And she can, if she changes her mind, that's fine.
05:20:27.780
But I just don't think we should be, girls should be pressuring other girls.
05:20:32.440
And, I mean, like, you don't have, like, you don't have to agree with someone's lifestyle to be their friend.
05:20:37.200
And you also don't have to pressure your friend to do what you do.
05:20:39.960
Especially if, like, it doesn't sound, I mean, I'm sorry, but there's no way, like, I mean, every day you wake up and you're like, this is going to make my child proud that I'm doing this.
05:20:49.760
Like, at the end of the day, your five-year-old kid is like, oh, what does your mom do?
05:20:54.680
I mean, I'm sorry, but I don't think that's something.
05:20:57.300
But I don't think it's something that you'd be proud of.
05:21:04.160
And you're sitting here saying that I'm pressuring her.
05:21:16.240
I can't just, like, do it, do it, do it every single day.
05:21:20.240
She said, yeah, I want to do it before we go on the podcast.
05:21:27.660
Was the potential suggestion here, you should go ahead, if you're going to do this, and launch
05:21:34.900
this now, because you're going on this big podcast, and that'll help drive traffic to
05:21:39.940
No, I said, like, if she started one, like, because we had talked about this, like, way
05:21:45.480
I was like, I will promote you on my TikTok, on my, like, everything, so, like, we can make
05:22:02.820
And I will promote your not doing OnlyFans if you become a Christian.
05:22:17.940
And it's stopping you from doing OnlyFans, so it's doing its job.
05:22:31.320
It seems like you might be saying that you'll make it because you don't want her to be upset.
05:22:43.940
Not theory, but a good, um, discussing, discussing point.
05:22:56.160
To a degree of famous, because, like, being famous is really hard, too, in a lot of ways.
05:23:00.680
But just to live comfortably, really easily, in the quickest way possible, would be really nice, in a way.
05:23:18.700
For what shall it profit a man if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul?
05:23:29.700
By the way, that was Jesus' response to the devil.
05:23:36.200
It was just giving me kind of, like, I've had friends, like, before that, kind of, you're in a, like, a down place, and it's kind of, like, you see someone who's, like, not really wanting to go there.
05:23:44.740
And it's, like, you're kind of, like, if you bring them with you, now you have them at your level.
05:23:52.320
But that's kind of the vibe I've been watching for hours now.
05:23:54.960
And I've seen, like, you guys are very different.
05:23:57.520
And she seems like she, I mean, morally just is a little different than you.
05:24:05.860
My question to you is, like, if she didn't do OFs, would you guys still be friends?
05:24:10.440
She doesn't do OF now, and we're still friends.
05:25:07.580
Like, I actually brought her on this trip, so thank you.
05:25:39.060
I wouldn't make my friend cry on a podcast with 500,000 viewers, but that's just me.
05:25:47.080
I mean, there's, like, three people watching, Max.
05:25:53.560
Like, I don't mean to, like, I don't, like, if you think I'm truly pressuring you,
05:26:14.580
For, like, for, like, years in that way and in real life is, like, whoa, I couldn't even,
05:26:19.580
like, but, like, that was just a really hard time.
05:26:23.040
I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.
05:26:31.140
I know, like, you guys, I love Ruby, and I don't, like, I don't know.
05:26:35.900
I'm sorry if I just sounded, like, a bitch right now.
05:26:38.900
This is literally a therapy session in this part.
05:26:52.540
Is there a week's convention nearby that you got these succubi from Brian's healthiest little
05:26:58.380
Miss Kitty Black Barbie and Peggy the Man Pegger?
05:27:02.020
Brian unintentionally saved some nerd souls tonight.
05:27:06.720
Yeah, they're actually, in Santa Barbara, there is a, like, a anime convention going on right now.
05:27:16.200
I was walking around, and Brian came up to me, and he said, hey, come on to the podcast right now.
05:27:27.160
I heard he was like, hey, check your syphilis first.
05:27:41.820
Chair five, do you think what you do is family empowerment?
05:27:46.600
TTS is 200, guys, but that came through as well.
05:27:52.680
Do you think putting things in your ass is family empowerment?
05:28:11.400
So, like, as for, like, my parents, like, my mom doesn't know, but my dad knows, and
05:28:41.240
I'm never allowed back on this fucking podcast.
05:29:36.280
And the dad's all for you sticking things in your life.
05:29:38.640
Oh, he's not like all for it, but he's supportive.
05:30:10.940
Yeah, I mean, my parents are just supportive of me, like, whatever.
05:30:19.020
And ultimately, they're going to, like, support me.
05:30:33.320
You judged your parents so bad, you ran away from home.
05:30:55.280
Does anybody else want to cry while we're at it?
05:31:28.040
Okay, so definitely not a comedy career for you, either.
05:31:39.740
So you said, my hot take is that cute, hot girls shouldn't have to work and should just
05:31:57.740
You said that you got with this guy in your small town.
05:32:00.620
And then a week later, you got with this guy who hates the first guy you got with.
05:32:05.680
Then another week later, you got with another guy who hates both of the previous two guys
05:32:13.240
And you're continually talking to all these men, and you're fucking them all.
05:32:18.580
And you thought it was funny to hear the revolving door of shit talking.
05:32:28.580
And so, how many guys, like, at this kind of same time period?
05:32:39.280
Did you ever see two of them in the same day for sex?
05:32:49.900
Yeah, so, like, Billy at 5 p.m., Todd at 9 p.m., and Bartholomew at...
05:33:44.320
And so, so many times you said you've let, you've let your friends fuck in the back of
05:33:55.100
Like, my best friend and, like, her man, like, we were all super close and, like, I don't
05:34:01.020
know, like, they had snuck out one day and I was giving them a ride, so, like, they just
05:34:04.900
wanted to bang in the back seat and it was really cold outside, so I wasn't gonna go out
05:34:10.520
And so, they just put, like, a little thing up and then they did it in the back seat.
05:34:19.140
So, I didn't hear anything, but they were, like, shaking the car.
05:34:22.640
You said that you had a two-man with another couple effing in the back seat?
05:34:28.460
Like, they were in the back and then we were in the front.
05:34:33.880
Like, when you and your friend are both, like, getting with somebody at the same time.
05:34:46.820
And my, like, foot kept hitting, like, the horn and it kept, like, going off and it was
05:35:08.880
Like, the one who finishes first, does he lose?
05:35:21.000
What the fuck would steroids have to do with that?
05:35:23.220
I, like, I, apparently it causes, like, ED or something.
05:35:28.040
How could your boyfriend's mom have been so wrong about this?
05:35:35.760
And you said your foot kept setting off the horn?
05:35:44.660
It's not distracting if the car horn is going off.
05:35:48.320
But what's more distracting is if there's two other people also in the car trying to fuck.
05:36:00.120
Like, we were, like, behind, like, it was, like, a really small town.
05:36:10.340
It's, like, one of those small towns that you're, like, you're driving and, like, you just get off.
05:36:18.880
Like, it was just closed for the winter, though.
05:36:21.040
It's, like, one of those water parks where you get listeria from.
05:36:26.240
You called your ex over to your house in the middle of your most recent relationship.
05:36:32.520
Then that boyfriend broke up with me, so I ripped up his social security.
05:36:43.800
He, like, talked to a girl when I went to the bathroom.
05:36:47.320
So, like, he had done all of this stuff, like, way before me.
05:36:50.420
And, like, he knew, like, we were, like, not in a good, like, space, like, sexually and everything.
05:36:58.840
Like, we didn't, we just, like, weren't fucking.
05:37:01.240
And, like, we just, like, it wasn't good, you know?
05:37:07.660
Like, we just, like, and this was before I was doing OnlyFans, too.
05:37:13.480
And he was, like, well, if you want to go fuck another man, like, you can and I won't be mad.
05:37:18.580
And, like, I only invited my ex over because, like, I actually don't know why.
05:37:22.500
But we only ended up talking, but we didn't end up fucking because I looked at him.
05:37:38.180
You were dating a guy and it wasn't going well.
05:37:40.640
You called your ex over to your house, but you didn't hook up with him.
05:37:45.840
And then the boyfriend broke up with you, so you ripped up his social security card.
05:38:25.480
So, you said that you honestly don't believe in love after your last relationship.
05:38:32.860
But you feel like three-fourths of the men are unloyal.
05:38:38.380
Like, if someone will cheat on Megan Fox, a man will cheat on anyone.
05:38:54.740
I was about to say, yeah, I could cheat on Beyonce.
05:39:15.400
Yeah, but those guys are, like, super high-status guys.
05:39:23.060
It's, like, has a lot to do with, like, the guys I date to, like, my age range.
05:39:31.840
But, like, the thing is, the guy, like, plays into it.
05:39:37.420
Do you think that you being a fucking lunatic plays into it?
05:40:08.460
But I think everyone in your life is temporary.
05:40:11.280
Yeah, so you would say right now you'd have to go your separate ways.
05:40:22.880
Like, I don't know, this isn't going to sound nice, but...
05:40:25.360
Like, saying that, you know, everyone in your life is temporary,
05:40:27.680
it sounds like you have unresolved trauma and, like, from your childhood and, like, therapy.
05:40:39.000
As in, like, boyfriend-girlfriends, like, you'll always have your parents.
05:40:41.600
But, like, I don't know, because even watching my parents growing up, like, they definitely
05:40:47.180
And, like, they could have been, like, in a way better relationship.
05:40:52.500
But we don't have to follow in our, you know, parents' footsteps.
05:41:04.140
You also said, like, men of God, you can't even trust them.
05:41:11.120
Your ex, who was Christian, would only use you for sex.
05:41:14.840
He would F other girls when he was out of town.
05:41:27.660
Because, like, we were literally just fucking every weekend when he came home from work.
05:41:34.600
And he was, like, I'm just, like, not talking about this.
05:41:42.160
And, like, that's how it was for, like, a long time.
05:41:44.300
It was just, like, getting hotels every weekend.
05:41:47.100
And so, but he was, like, actively telling me, oh, I love you and this and that.
05:41:55.600
I just want to say, I, well, this is what you said.
05:42:01.240
But I refuse to date a man who makes less than me or who has no work ethic to make more money.
05:42:08.620
But if you're not, like, actively, like, working towards your goal.
05:42:11.300
Do you want to get married, like, right now and start pumping out kids?
05:42:17.220
Even though, like, it'll destroy my body when I'm 30.
05:42:22.360
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually recommend that you never have kids.
05:42:34.680
You're mature and you're blossoming into a beautiful woman.
05:43:16.240
Is this, so does it just play over better on the OnlyFans if you say you're Chinese instead
05:43:36.200
So, it sounds like, it sounds like, it sounds like, it sounds like, perhaps, there's a little
05:43:47.540
Yeah, but that doesn't actually tell us if you're Vietnamese or not.
05:43:55.300
Because, like, I'm adopted, so my parents could literally be anyone, unless I took, like,
05:44:02.540
So, wait, why would you, why would you say that you're Chinese?
05:44:37.180
Okay, Riley, you said how this dude just got out of jail and how we were in the Canes parking lot and his mother, mother, called and said to bring back food.
05:44:46.780
But the whole time, it was not his mother and it was actually his girlfriend on the phone.
05:44:50.840
And they were speaking Spanish and I don't know Spanish.
05:44:53.080
So, he lied and translated what she was saying.
05:44:55.380
But the whole time, it was his girl on speakerphone.
05:44:57.700
And I bought food that he brought back to his girl.
05:45:13.860
And then she texted me and she was all like, he's just my toy.
05:45:27.200
Well, before we do that, he just got out of jail.
05:46:00.500
You also wrote how everyone, I don't know if this is like a disagreement or what, how
05:46:05.820
everyone sees OnlyFans girls as easy or a 3-0 foe.
05:46:33.480
Yeah, I feel like, because I was in a group chat and everyone was like talking about like
05:46:38.240
I'm a bop and I'm easy and I'm this and that because I do OF, but like in reality, I do
05:46:45.680
Like I don't like just go fuck anybody, you know?
05:46:57.740
Since it just came up, why don't we get into it?
05:47:00.280
Some of you already actually stated your body counts, but why don't we just, starting with
05:47:21.340
You can go ahead and check out that last video.
05:47:31.200
I don't remember what the final number we landed on was last night.
05:47:56.840
This is where it's hard because I had a list, but there's more.
05:48:18.940
I'm going to say it's probably like, I don't know.
05:48:32.680
So if it could be higher than 40, is it going to be higher than 46?
05:48:40.060
Because if you offer a person a five, they'll always take it.
05:49:16.860
If you offer someone a five, they always take it.
05:49:35.900
It was probably around the same age for you, wasn't it?
05:49:39.840
Of the 50, would you say most of them came in the past year?
05:50:30.980
Like I feel like I'm not that much older, but like I grew up in my school with like two
05:50:43.340
And so then like, you know, I feel like the younger generation is just out here fucking.
05:51:04.380
If all you fucking brats are gonna lie to me, I can fucking lie to all of you.
05:51:17.340
I can't even fucking remember the number you told us last time.
05:51:19.640
You can't remember the number you told us fucking two hours.
05:51:25.680
When you fucking brats start telling the truth, I'll start telling the truth.
05:51:30.340
But I just had to do a lie detector test on stream, so that's the same question.
05:51:53.240
Wanted to say thank you for all of the content this year and all that you do.
05:52:05.840
Thank you for the Champagne Pop, and yeah, it has been great seeing the Crucible crew
05:52:12.800
It's always a fun time for both chats, I think, so...
05:52:16.840
Nico, thank you so much, man, for the very generous Champagne Pop.
05:52:21.820
Do appreciate it, and appreciate your kind words.
05:52:34.380
And I also would like to wish you a Merry Christmas as well.
05:52:40.080
We're going to get this popped in just a moment.
05:53:17.280
It's either that or my seventh cigarette break.
05:53:20.520
While I'm getting the Champagne poured, do any of you guys have like a...
05:53:25.640
Do any of you have a disagreement with the show that you want to talk about?
05:54:19.420
This isn't a disagreement, but I'm still waiting for the...
05:54:25.560
I still want the Brian Reaction sticker pack that we talked about.
05:54:44.880
Hang on, in Brian's defense, he doesn't get every panel pizza.
05:54:51.100
But the fact that it's cold, I have to say, it's a crime.
05:54:53.360
Well, we can't microwave it, because it fucks with our Wi-Fi.
05:55:42.780
Instead of doing the mad tango in the barn like normal hillbillies, they decided to screw
05:55:59.580
So a coomer is a guy who sucks men's dicks, but then also has sex with a woman he's in
05:56:08.420
an open relationship with and loses her to a twink on a sink.
05:56:13.420
I can't believe there's a definition for that word.
05:56:53.160
This nation will be Islam in the next few generations if we continue to have declining birth rates.
05:57:00.160
If Islam takes over, goodbye woman's ride to hello sister wives.
05:57:18.560
So I don't care if we have, if we, we gotta go through ten daughters, we're getting seven
05:57:22.780
That sounds like the old king times where they had to be like, I want an heir, an heir,
05:57:36.760
It's like, I don't, I just, I don't even know you, but.
05:57:40.960
So, I mean, there's a reason you take the husband's last name.
05:57:43.960
There's a reason your kids get the husband's last name.
05:58:13.720
You never know if you might have like a daughter with syphilis or chlamydia.
05:58:30.240
This is just like taking sex education back 100 years right now.
05:58:34.960
Guys, you cannot get syphilis from holding hands.
05:58:37.040
I think we got a raid from Rachel a couple minutes ago.
05:58:42.360
Yo, everybody in the Crucible, thank you so much for joining us here on the whatever stream.
05:58:50.160
Hope you guys had a good stream over there with Rachel.
05:58:54.820
We can't tangle up with these fucking whatever D-gens.
05:59:09.660
It is another Afro terminology that describes, like, Afro descendants that was enslaved here.
05:59:26.460
You said, also, it says join the hashtag Dolls Unite community.
05:59:36.240
It's just, like, my little own click on Instagram that I made.
05:59:47.820
So, it's, like, basically, yeah, but, like, more, like, I do, like, makeup challenges.
05:59:52.500
So, like, every month I'll do a makeup challenge and they'll use, like, hashtag Dolls Unite to earn, like, a free prize or whatever.
05:59:58.640
So, that's just, like, a little way to engage, like, my audience.
06:00:01.880
Yeah, you said, also, you were talking to a criminal who stole cars.
06:00:08.000
So, that's a good story to start off with, I guess.
06:00:12.460
So, when I moved to Chicago from the suburbs, I was, like, new to the whole scenery and I was new to the whole city life.
06:00:20.320
And I had met a couple of friends who introduced me to this one guy who stole a U-Haul truck.
06:00:28.200
And, I'm sorry, I'm going to tell you this story.
06:00:52.440
He would drive them around, basically doing, like, Grand Theft Auto.
06:00:55.980
Like, he was, like, he went to jail for stealing some shoes, I think, at a warehouse.
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I didn't really date, because he was talking to this other woman.
06:01:33.040
Did you still talk to him after he got out of jail?
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I mean, he just, he just, you know, stole U-Haul trucks, and we rode around them.
06:01:54.180
Why did you want to fucking ride around in a U-Haul in Chicago?
06:02:04.280
I got some furniture back there we can get that.
06:02:08.540
I literally thought it was for, like, the fun of it, but, like, he kept stealing so many
06:02:13.300
U-Hauls, and it's just, like, I have to know the number.
06:02:17.840
I think he stole, like, five from the time I met him.
06:02:26.260
The Chicago PD sucks if he stole five U-Hauls before he got caught.
06:02:33.940
So, you basically cruised around in 30% of his stolen property.
06:02:39.540
This is all alleged, by the way, in case the police are watching.
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We just rode around in U-Haul trucks, and he, like, smoked it.
06:03:03.180
The allure was, well, one, he was very, like, very attractive, and two, he put up a good game.
06:03:41.480
All I need to do is we're in a U-Haul and be like, hey, baby, you want to get in the back of my U-Haul?
06:03:47.640
Yeah, you want to ride in the back of my U-Haul?
06:04:32.780
That was the best experience that I had thus far.
06:04:49.740
Like, oh, this could be like in a movie type of ordeal.
06:04:53.240
It could have been like a caddy, but no, a U-Haul.
06:04:59.220
There's been occasion in my life where I just have to say I'm the most boring man in the world.
06:05:12.980
You don't want to drive around the back of a U-Haul.
06:05:40.420
You also wanted to talk about interracial dating, but I'm assuming...
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It's so crazy because like people, especially on social media, they're always like, oh, you're
06:06:01.740
And I'm like, no, I just want to be a Barbie doll.
06:06:03.560
And then they see my white boyfriend and they're like, oh yeah, you really want to be white
06:06:10.080
They know that he's Polish, but they still think that like he's like Amaranian or like
06:06:15.200
Jewish or something because like he doesn't look Polish, if that makes any sense.
06:06:19.540
But like, then again, like I don't really know how Polish people truly look like.
06:06:24.440
But like with him, it's always like people just stare and they're just like...
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They'll stare for like five seconds at the max.
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I've had, you've had so many unique dating experiences, but the one that you laugh at
06:06:42.760
every time is this crazy dude you were only in the talking stage with, but he swore you
06:06:47.900
He never even asked you to be his girlfriend anyways.
06:06:51.740
He used to want to be on the phone with you 24-7.
06:07:06.240
He went to like some juvie school and that should have been my red flag right there to
06:07:14.600
And you know, like we talked a lot and stuff like that and he swore that we were dating
06:07:19.900
and it was just crazy to me because like, again, never asked me.
06:07:24.940
So like I wouldn't count it, but like he would be on the phone with me all the time and he
06:07:30.160
If his phone died, he would like make me call him on his, on my computer, on his computer
06:07:38.720
Like literally come to my house, bang on the door and swear that I was like cheating on
06:07:57.020
And then, um, what really got me was because when I tried to end things with him and stop
06:08:04.780
So he used a butter knife to try and pick my lock at my house.
06:08:09.720
And then when he couldn't get in, I mean, when he did get in, like I was genuinely scared.
06:08:18.600
I stayed with him for, I stayed with like, I kept talking to him for like a long time,
06:08:28.780
Like, you can't even break in my house and stuff, you know?
06:08:40.620
But he like, he didn't want to be out of contact with you for longer than 10 minutes.
06:08:46.080
Yeah, like, if I didn't answer the phone, I think he would come to my house.
06:09:00.020
I ain't cheating if I wasn't with your ass, yo.
06:09:16.820
And, um, but your name's actually, it's Ruby, right?
06:09:22.980
Uh, you said you've gone on so many lame dates.
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Uh, one was to Walmart and one guy begging to meet at Kroger.
06:09:43.560
Like, a really, this was, this was a really short era.
06:09:50.440
And, um, I would, like, scroll and talk with people, you know, normal dating app things.
06:09:59.440
He seemed pretty, pretty alright, pretty promising.
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And he was like, yeah, I'll, like, take you on a date.
06:10:06.980
And I was like, like, I really want to go on a date and have a dating experience.
06:10:13.780
I, like, have only been on maybe, like, three or four official dates.
06:10:25.300
You've, what, if you had to describe your other experiences, how would you describe them?
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What other experiences, like, when dating versus, like, casual versus, like, official?
06:10:40.880
When you say the word, when you say the word only, it would indicate that your previous experiences with men were what?
06:10:49.420
Like, you'd just go over to their house and have sex with them?
06:10:59.660
Sorry, I was thinking, I was really thinking about the, oh, what, like, do I really consider as, like, a date?
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Because versus, like, an official date versus, like, not a date.
06:11:11.600
And, but so you said you wanted to start going on proper dates.
06:11:17.420
And I had recently moved in that whole year that, after I graduated, I moved, like, five times.
06:11:25.640
And this was after one of my most recent times moving.
06:11:29.820
And so I was, like, sure, let's, like, try this.
06:11:33.500
And he was, like, I'll take you on a date, girl.
06:11:52.880
The thing about the car, though, was once I got in it and was, like, talking with him a bit, his bass speakers, they were sound woofers.
06:12:11.740
And he was, like, we were trying to yell over it and talk.
06:12:14.980
And, like, my voice kept cracking and breaking.
06:12:18.020
And then at the end of our date when he, like, dropped me off, obviously we went to Walmart.
06:12:41.200
If you could take me on a date to a Walmart and we could have a good time, we can get married tomorrow.
06:12:45.900
Like, you know, if you can have fun with a guy in a Walmart and, like, you're having a great time, then you can have fun doing anything.
06:12:54.000
But this was an experience and not the date that I was hoping for.
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But, like, once I got home, I was, like, I'm not listening to music on my way to work tomorrow.
06:13:19.920
Because his subwoofer's bass was so loud that I had the worst headache ever.
06:13:35.140
Ones like that where they just, like, because what I thought dating was when I was younger would be, like, at least to, like, both be dressed up cute.
06:13:45.360
And, like, I don't really care about, like, flowers.
06:13:55.240
But to just go to a place like Walmart and walk around versus, like, a park or something where it's more of an engaging and fun experience to do.
06:14:33.440
Okay, so we, like, go to the park and have charcuterie and, like, have a cute little photo moment.
06:14:48.400
And then, like, at the park we're, like, walking around, you know, the birds are, like, tweet, tweet, tweet.
06:14:56.480
And it's, like, just having fun eating a disc of, like, a frisbee.
06:15:02.120
And not, like, not, you're tearing it, like, nom, nom, nom.
06:15:10.360
Like, the dog is just playing with the frisbee.
06:15:16.500
Like, like, that's just going on in the scenery.
06:15:25.840
And then it's gonna be, like, oh, the sun is setting.
06:15:28.920
And then it's going to be, like, oh, the sun is setting.
06:15:47.300
I, like, took my most recent one, and we went and did things.
06:15:53.560
I did try and initiate it and try and have planning sort of set up.
06:16:01.300
Interesting, because earlier you said you paid multiple times, 50-50 on dates.
06:16:06.440
Well, with the one that I'm with right now, and even on times before where I've had friends
06:16:10.840
with benefits, and we, like, get something to eat, like a pizza or something, I've split
06:16:25.760
Yeah, I've been, like, single and in and out of friends with benefits relationships.
06:16:29.780
How long have you been seeing this current guy?
06:16:39.640
Where are all these first dates where you paid 50-50?
06:16:46.940
I'd say I've been on, like, for what I consider technical real dates.
06:16:52.540
When I went on them before, it was honestly our parents paying.
06:16:57.420
And then ever since, like, I had gone on sort of dates with my friends with benefits, but,
06:17:08.620
You said you recently planned out, but I'm talking about first dates.
06:17:13.300
So, the first date with the current guy that you're seeing, did you pay or did he pay?
06:17:18.020
I offered to, and he was like, no, like, I'm paying for this.
06:17:23.800
So, you've never actually paid for a first date?
06:17:27.760
I guess in technicalities, no, but I have offered all the time ever since.
06:17:36.420
You just haven't ever paid on a first date, right?
06:17:44.840
But also, so, here's my dilemma with this, is that you said that you also have experiences
06:17:52.420
where the men on these dating apps would say, come over, and you would, and you would immediately
06:18:00.220
So, like, other men, why should other men put in effort when you've just gone over to men's
06:18:08.820
It depends on what the other person is wanting.
06:18:15.220
When I was with, when I was talking with these people before, I said explicitly, like, let's
06:18:35.880
It's going to be Indiana Trolls and the Jar of Doom this evening.
06:18:41.380
In the times before, I would be like, I want to go on a date.
06:18:44.920
This is, I'm, like, on Tinder before versus, like, short-term fun, blah, blah, blah.
06:18:50.240
I would be, like, either more promiscuous if it was just for hooking up or, like, let's
06:18:58.600
And so, when I said, let's go on a date, I didn't think it would be warmer.
06:19:06.460
It would occur to me that, I mean, you personally don't find some of these dates, like, appealing
06:19:12.240
or the guy picked you up in a shitty car or whatever.
06:19:16.280
I mean, isn't that a greater deal of effort that's been expended by the man than just being
06:19:25.400
It's just, like, you have had those experiences.
06:19:35.500
Parallel one, guy you just think is really hot and you're horny one night, so you call
06:19:43.720
Guy number two, you're dating, you really like him.
06:19:48.000
He finds out by the second date that you've done this with men previously.
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And you say, but listen, it's not you, I really like you.
06:19:54.600
I was just really horny one night and this guy was hot and I wanted to hook up.
06:20:00.520
Like, doesn't guy number two go, well, wait a second, what do I get here?
06:20:07.620
I feel like that's, like, an individual case-by-case basis, though.
06:20:11.440
Yeah, and so we're talking about two individual cases.
06:20:14.560
Case one, you hook up with a guy within minutes, right, because you just want to.
06:20:21.880
Guy number two wants to hook up, but you're making him wait, right?
06:20:28.460
You say to him, somehow this comes up as a topic of conversation, you tell him about guy
06:20:34.940
How would that not make guy number two feel like total shit?
06:20:40.180
If I were guy number two, I would be so sad badge.
06:20:45.540
I did, I don't, I'm sorry, not to butt in, but also to butt in.
06:20:47.880
I feel like if they wanted you for more than just your body, like, you should feel better
06:20:51.920
Because the one night stand would probably do it for one night stands.
06:20:56.840
You know, I just, I only give my body to men I hate.
06:21:01.760
Oh, you know what, that's fair, sweetheart, you're right, you know, you only give your
06:21:10.200
I am, I am imagining it, but I, like, personally, like, I would feel better if a man wanted to
06:21:13.880
wait to have sex with me until, like, we've had an actual connection.
06:21:22.200
We're not talking about how, we're not talking about how you feel.
06:21:24.380
We're talking about how a man would feel knowing that you had other men you had sex
06:21:42.180
I would, I would imagine a man would feel better about himself.
06:21:47.540
Of course, I'd be like, oh, you fucked this other dude upon minutes of meeting him because
06:21:54.140
you were horny one night, but you want me to wait.
06:21:59.220
That would make me think, wow, you really like that guy and must really not like me very
06:22:09.180
Is the light bulb, I feel like there's a light bulb.
06:22:11.820
And it's like, it's like about to just ding and the whole room is going to get illuminated.
06:22:24.840
I mean, for you, you would say like you would feel pretty shitty.
06:22:31.080
Brian, would you feel, would you feel shitty if you found out that so-and-so, the girl that
06:22:36.920
you were talking to or whatever, she had sex with another guy, but she wanted you to wait.
06:22:53.640
But I mean, let me ask you, let me ask you the same question in reverse.
06:22:57.300
The guy's like, oh yeah, baby, this chick just came down and I, you know, I just wanted
06:23:08.460
Well, the past is in the past and I'm the future.
06:23:15.120
Oh, I was just going to say, I'm just like, going to say that women also can feel this
06:23:20.300
in like the way of like, for me, I don't like doing one night stands.
06:23:26.860
Generally, I want to date until I can kind of feel if this is going to be serious and
06:23:31.360
I don't want to be intimate with someone until I know that that's the page you're on.
06:23:34.020
But guys, a lot of guys I know, they want, they expect that they don't want to, they need
06:23:40.080
to have sex with you to see if they want to be in a relationship with you.
06:23:42.660
But in general, the same guy who's saying, I'm not ready for a relationship could date
06:23:54.540
I didn't even understand it, but, but I'm trying to.
06:23:58.380
I think she's saying that she would probably feel.
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So I'm just saying that there's also like women also can feel like you're talking about
06:24:05.980
I'm just saying women go through this thing as well, where men look at them like they're
06:24:11.160
Why don't I, tell me if this is what, what's going on.
06:24:13.740
So let's say you were dating a guy for like a year, but it was kind of a situationship
06:24:17.920
and he was like, you know, I'm just kind of like, I don't, I'm not sure what I want
06:24:22.620
Like you're really great, but you know, I just want to take things slow.
06:24:25.980
So I'm not going to point in my life where I'm ready for long-term relationship.
06:24:31.300
You guys break up two weeks later, he's engaged to another woman.
06:24:39.580
That's a long time to like let some women are in situations.
06:24:43.840
But I mean, just like in general, like I've got guys often I've seen with my friends and
06:24:47.860
like, you know, personal experiences, like guys like, Oh, I'm not ready for a relationship.
06:24:51.420
I just want to hook up where I'm just like, I'm good then.
06:24:53.500
Like, you know, but, or they're, they're actively pursuing you and then they're literally in
06:24:57.540
a, they have a whole girlfriend like five days later and it's like on Instagram or something
06:25:02.960
Wait, I'm just, I'm confused because it's like, like you guys always say girls are so
06:25:08.140
confusing, but I'm confused right now about what men want.
06:25:09.940
Cause you don't want a girl to be promiscuous and sleep with you on the first date, but
06:25:12.720
you're going to be mad if she doesn't sleep with you on the first date.
06:25:16.680
I think they're more so like devil's advocate with that.
06:25:22.340
Well, it depends on if they're following secular ethics or Christian ethics or some other ethical
06:25:32.300
So from Brian's perspective, it makes total sense to me.
06:25:36.020
He says, okay, if you're willing to sleep with a dude, the first night you meet him,
06:25:44.400
but you want to make me wait, that's basically signaling to me that you don't want me.
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I don't know how to argue with that because how else could it make you feel?
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Like they crave something more meaningful than just intimacy.
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If it's more meaningful though, why would you give the intimacy to the guy who it wasn't
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I feel like you said it yourself though, in this hypothetical, the girl's horny.
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So the assumption is that now Brian doesn't make you horny.
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That makes sense a little bit, but not a lot, but a little bit.
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Because when you question, you'd be like, what's wrong with me?
06:26:38.540
So imagine a guy who introduced his friends, family, spends quality long romantic dates,
06:26:48.920
revealed his emotional side with girls he just wanted to smash, but with girls he saw
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The reason it doesn't make sense is Brian's point.
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He says, would it make sense, would it make sense in the reverse if a guy wanted a long-term
06:27:24.220
commitment with you, but then just did a booty call and then never talked to you again?
06:27:29.200
So the person that I might booty call, I don't want a long-term commitment with, but so when
06:27:42.540
Well, I'm not a man, so I feel like at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what
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You can't, you can't put yourself in the shoes of the opposite.
06:27:57.760
Because like, as a woman, like, like, like you said, like every woman could get sex if
06:28:01.360
So like, what do you, do you feel that the man would be disrespecting the woman if he
06:28:14.320
So then that's not the kind of man that you'd want to be seeing long-term if they agree to
06:28:18.720
If they'd rather wait for you, then that sounds like a long-term partner.
06:28:20.840
It does, but we still come into the same conundrum.
06:28:24.420
So the problem is, sure, I agree with you that, let's say a woman propositioned a man
06:28:31.680
and he's following Christian ethics, he should turn it down.
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But then in that case, a man probably wouldn't want to be with that woman.
06:28:38.780
But it really has nothing to do with the idea of a man, let's say he's a Christian man,
06:28:44.420
She reveals to him that she wanted to have sex with these two previous men to him, but
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It's still going to make him feel like shit either way.
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Yeah, because I was like, why would you allow that to happen?
06:29:03.940
I feel like the woman probably wouldn't also tell him.
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I feel like if anything that makes it worse, what if he finds out?
06:29:16.280
I want you to be in touch with your emotional side.
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Because when you show something which is vulnerable, it can be weaponized.
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But when a man shows something vulnerable, it's the same thing.
06:29:34.820
The thing about this hypothetical is that that's just not something that I would do.
06:29:45.560
She would sleep with the guy the first night if she thought that he wanted that.
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If that would lead to the long-term relationship, she would do that.
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Because she thinks that he has virtue and does not want a woman who is promiscuous, she will fake the virtue by making him wait.
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But if I disagreed, you're just going to keep explaining it to me for the 10th time.
06:30:27.660
When you say you disagreed, you disagree that this phenomenon exists?
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But I'm sure that there's different intention behind it than just faking virtue.
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Like, if I didn't have sex with somebody immediately upon a first date, it wouldn't be that I was lying to them that I was virtuous.
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It would be because of some other reason, probably.
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The situation specifically we're talking about is if the woman ordinarily would sleep with this guy,
06:31:00.840
but thinks if she does, that could in some way diminish his interest in her.
06:31:12.660
At that point, she's tailoring her virtue to him.
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So when men, and again, this is all, you know, men can, women can do the same thing that you're
06:32:31.720
accusing, or men can do the same thing that women.
06:32:34.140
So I'm not saying that only women, or men do this.
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But a lot of guys lie to women to get laid in the aspect of like...
06:32:44.200
So I'm just proving the point of, hey, if you...
06:32:49.220
Like, I want a relationship with you while you're...
06:32:53.340
And you know, you want to wait till like the fourth or whatever, you're ready, hypothetically
06:32:57.280
And a guy's like, fakes it because he knows you want a relationship just to get you in bed
06:33:04.240
I don't dispute that men fake virtue to get laid.
06:33:08.740
Men will tell all sorts of tall tales, everything in between, so that they can get a piece.
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But specifically here, we're just talking about this situation of the idea of what happens
06:33:25.360
when you're a man, you're talking to a woman, you like her, she likes you back.
06:33:30.780
Like, she sees that you have some sort of like higher ethic or virtue.
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In this virtue, you say, ah, you know, I'm not looking for a woman who's highly promiscuous,
06:33:43.860
All the things you may talk about on a first date or even before you go on the first date.
06:33:48.280
So the woman tailors her behavior to that because...
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But this is one, I can't get past this hypothetical with Brian.
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Though he does have like an informed ethical belief from Christianity.
06:34:23.160
It's fucking unfair that a woman will sleep with three dudes before me, let's say, hypothetically, on the first date.
06:34:32.300
But then when it comes to me, she goes, well, I really like you, so I don't want to.
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How the fuck is that supposed to make him feel?
06:34:40.380
I think there is something really cherishable about not getting immediately to like just that place and enjoying time and spending time together.
06:34:55.780
So, like, if I, if I were the second man and that were me, yes, I'd be sad.
06:35:08.580
It's always the, so the, so the answer from women to this always seems to be one of two things.
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Does he want me to sleep with him the first date or doesn't he?
06:35:22.720
And it's like, well, the complexity here really, though, lies with the woman, not with the man.
06:35:29.240
The man could be very virtuous and doesn't expect any woman to be promiscuous with him, but does like a woman who has been promiscuous.
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How does that, how is that fair to him, though?
06:35:40.780
It's called having communication between two people.
06:35:45.240
You're communicating, but you have to resolve the issue.
06:35:47.680
And the issue is, is like, okay, you know what?
06:35:51.080
Oh, but honey, that doesn't follow your ethics.
06:35:59.760
What, what differences in this, like, do you guys see?
06:36:03.740
Like, why do you guys have arguments about this?
06:36:08.380
It just comes from, it just comes from an ethical purview.
06:36:13.140
So I don't think you should be sleeping with anybody until you're married with them.
06:36:22.100
He doesn't, he doesn't think sex outside of marriage is problematic.
06:36:25.260
So if that's the case, he's just looking at it from a purely pragmatic point of view.
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You fucked the last two dudes immediately, or the last one immediately.
06:36:47.980
I mean, I also don't think it's a woman's fault if a guy lies to her to get laid.
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Like, it's, if someone lies to you, or like, they act different.
06:36:54.960
Yeah, but you're just, what about the mendoing?
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We know that the men are, there's men who are shitbags and do this and blah, blah.
06:37:05.640
Well, how do you reconcile this from the woman's aspect?
06:37:10.560
I mean, I think if she, it sounds like she might like you more.
06:37:13.680
Sounds like she might like you more than, like, maybe she, yeah, she does maybe think
06:37:18.500
So, I mean, where you could get mad about it, I think her intentions, it sounds like,
06:37:23.320
is that she just genuinely likes you and wants you to get to know her instead of seeing
06:37:37.100
And then also, I mean, if you, like, if you're the guy in this situation and you're like,
06:37:41.500
no, I actually do want a long-term relationship, but I also want to like hook up now.
06:37:45.440
And then she, then she's also doubles down and is like, no, it's just kind of a ridiculous,
06:37:55.160
And it's ridiculous kind of from a, a bird's eye view of the entire situation because the,
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the strange part is you'll say, oh, those other guys I dated, it was, I didn't really
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It was just a fuck boy, a jerk, asshole, whatever.
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Shouldn't you, I don't, I don't view sex as, as a reward, but just the simplest way of
06:38:30.000
Ought you not reward the guy who's most deserving of a relationship?
06:38:34.420
So you withhold, of sex, so you withhold sex from the guy who's most deserving of it and
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you give sex to like scumbag piece of shit men?
06:38:46.720
That literally makes no sense and it ties into the conversation we were having earlier where
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men will see like, okay, treating, does treating women well result in me like getting what I want,
06:39:00.100
in this case, sex, like, no, she's giving sex to the fuck boys, the jerks, the assholes.
06:39:06.180
And it's just like this totally kind of mind fuck, uh, especially for young men where they're
06:39:11.740
like, okay, you say you want to be treated well.
06:39:15.900
You're like complaining about all these abusive men, but you're giving sex, this cherished thing
06:39:24.200
And it's super, it's really confusing and you're essentially, I don't think most men
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are not going to do the trade-off of, eh, I'm not going to become like a piece of shit
06:39:36.140
Some men are like, oh, this is what women respond to.
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I don't think that's the path that they should take, but like, that's the path some men take.
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Like you're almost, uh, what's the word for it?
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A synonym of, it's like a synonym of that, uh, what's enabling.
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You're almost enabling men to like be pieces of shit.
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It's like, if you're going to curtail it to the market, then what's the incentive of
06:40:15.540
But is his ultimatum or his motive is just to lay you in bed?
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But if he's virtuous, you would assume he's looking for a woman with virtue.
06:40:27.400
So if the woman is tailoring the virtue to the man who has virtue and he, he figures this
06:40:42.400
That would be really confusing and difficult as a man.
06:40:50.200
Um, and there's been a bunch of like Reddit threads on this that we've reacted to.
06:40:53.760
Actually, should we just, I feel like we should just pull it up.
06:40:59.480
Um, we'll do that in just a second, but I'm going to get something pulled up, Damien, for
06:41:05.560
You know, I feel like we got to raise a little bit in super chats for the pickle jar.
06:41:13.460
Yeah, we got to get, we got to get to $750 for this, uh, pickle jar.
06:41:18.800
Send them in so that we can watch them struggle with the pickle jar.
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It's something we've reacted to a couple different times.
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It is interesting though, but it kind of like takes it a step further.
06:41:37.380
But I mean, on this, it's kind of like, it would be kind of like, how about this?
06:41:43.460
A guy who, um, for the girls that he just wanted to like fuck really quickly and never
06:41:51.320
talk to again, like he did the most for those girls.
06:41:54.780
So the girls that he just wanted to have sex with once and then ghost after he took them
06:41:59.300
on like really fancy dinner date, treated them really well, did all the chivalrous stuff,
06:42:06.040
Uh, let's see what else he, uh, got them flowers and, um, did all this.
06:42:12.280
And then, but for the girl who like is worthy of a relationship, he does none of that.
06:42:28.120
Let's say there is not a lot, but let's say there is.
06:42:30.960
Wouldn't that send exactly the opposite signal from your view?
06:42:36.060
It should a hundred percent, but it doesn't, but it's not, I guess the, like would put yourself
06:42:46.520
So, you know, you find out that not just bird's eye view, but you're going through this experience.
06:42:53.500
This is a guy you really like, and he claims he really likes you, but he's kind of been
06:43:01.420
He's not really responding to you very quickly.
06:43:04.000
Uh, he's taking you on like really low effort dates or he's just like, uh, just come over
06:43:12.320
And then you find out that the last three women he dated and there's been no material
06:43:20.580
There's been, there's been no material, no material change whatsoever to his finances,
06:43:27.120
But his last three girlfriends, he would take them on trips to Hawaii and he would get,
06:43:44.820
Well, you can take me to Petco on a first date.
06:43:46.220
I'm just saying the point is, the point is, is like, if you found out that the pre-
06:43:53.300
And you would be like, what the fuck is going on here?
06:43:59.320
If I found out the guy that I like is doing, did X, Y, Z for another girl.
06:44:04.220
And then for me, he's like, meh, here's some McDonald's.
06:44:11.260
But then when you confront him about this, he's like, no, no, no, no.
06:44:30.760
I'm not saying everyone, but I'm saying like society has kind of turned into like, like
06:44:35.580
when a guy, I'll ask my friends like something hypothetical and they're just like, oh, he's
06:44:41.660
And I'm like, but why if he knows I like him, like why, why would we have to play a game?
06:44:50.960
The idea is I fucked a bunch of dudes before you, but now I'm going to tailor my sexuality
06:45:00.460
The same way you would see it as the guy, right.
06:45:03.680
He'd be like, dude, you bought this chick flowers and flew her out to, you know, fucking
06:45:19.340
So, I mean, the whole idea, right into the mic, by the way, the whole idea here is just
06:45:23.780
to say like, look, the choices that you make have significant ramifications on future partnerships.
06:45:32.000
This is one such way we can just demonstrate easily.
06:45:35.860
If a dude did that in reverse, of course, you're going to be like, what the fuck is wrong
06:45:46.300
So, say that you are a woman who has been promiscuous before and you've like, you know,
06:45:51.920
has slept with people on first dates and you meet a guy and he's a Christian and he has
06:45:56.720
Christian values and he wants to wait and you think, wow, I really like this guy and
06:46:04.300
Do you think that you would still have that same, that guy would still have the same reaction?
06:46:08.980
No, he would be following a different ethical standard.
06:46:12.460
However, the woman could still be faking virtue.
06:46:15.980
But if she decides to change her mind, if she's like, wow, like, I should not.
06:46:19.300
If she has a legitimate change of heart, I don't know how you would be able to tell that,
06:46:23.020
But if she had a legitimate change of heart, he may instantly say, great, right?
06:46:28.340
You're following the same ethics, virtues that I am.
06:46:30.540
This is not the case we're talking about though, but I'll, I'll just go ahead and grant this
06:46:35.600
Christians, actually Christian men have to deal with this conundrum all the time.
06:46:40.120
The idea of, yeah, you have a pretty promiscuous past, but now you're suddenly a Christian when
06:46:48.360
you happen to meet me and like me a lot, right?
06:46:57.940
Well, I only say that because my, my most recent ex was a Christian, is a Christian.
06:47:07.840
We had a long history like before then, but we had never like been intimate with each
06:47:12.080
And so when we started dating, we waited for a pretty long time before being intimate with
06:47:19.380
He knew that I'd slept with people before, but he wasn't like, oh, why did she sleep with
06:47:24.800
So it's like, you know, that's the reason I bring that up is because that situation did
06:47:28.080
So there's going to be cases, many cases where Christians end up with women who are
06:47:34.060
promiscuous or end up with women with a checkered past or end up with any number of these different
06:47:40.520
They're not going to, they're not going to hold that against you.
06:47:44.360
They're going to hold the false virtue against you.
06:47:50.660
And so it's like, but in modernity, how does a modern Christian man navigate that?
06:48:05.500
Guys, if you're watching, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
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If you have one, that's twitch.tv slash whatever.
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Guys, it has been an hour since our last prime sub.
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If you guys can, yeah, we'll get to that in just a sec.
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I just struggled to open a water bottle cap over there, so I'm kind of nervous.
06:48:34.780
Yeah, I know, but I really want to watch them struggle with this pickle jar.
06:49:14.140
Guys, can you get us before the end of the stream?
06:49:18.180
Can you guys get us to 98,000 followers over there on Twitch?
06:49:43.940
I'm unsure if I should tell my boyfriend this information.
06:49:46.980
I've recently gone official with a man I've been dating for a couple months.
06:49:49.780
He's kind, respectful, and considerate, and I really think that he could be the one.
06:49:54.600
I wanted to build slowly with this man so he didn't become intimate until after going exclusive.
06:49:59.080
But between the first date and that point, I did see an old friends with benefits a couple times.
06:50:03.760
Back then, I didn't think anything of it as I wasn't exclusive.
06:50:06.360
But I underestimated how much I would care for my boyfriend, and I feel almost like I've cheated on him.
06:50:19.580
There was mixed reactions here, but my gut told me I should tell my boyfriend.
06:50:21.980
And he said, sorry, I don't want to be in a relationship with someone who does that.
06:50:27.940
Okay, so she asks, have I done something wrong?
06:50:32.440
Going around the table, your thoughts on that, if you want to.
06:50:36.180
If she stopped doing that is like when they went exclusive.
06:50:43.460
Well, no, they weren't together, so how could it be cheating?
06:50:46.360
I think the guy was being a little bit dramatic, but hey, if that's what his standards are.
06:50:49.900
Sure, we'll let everybody answer before we give our response.
06:50:53.280
Personally, from my values, I kind of, for me, it's like I'm not testing them, but just
06:50:58.560
because that's how I am, I'm not going to tell a man he has to be exclusive with me.
06:51:02.960
I obviously voice that I'm exclusive, and if I found that out after, and I was falling
06:51:08.280
for this guy and catching feelings, and I was exclusive to him, and I was vocal that
06:51:13.700
I wasn't dating around, and I found out he was sleeping with an old friends with benefits
06:51:17.540
I'd probably break up with him if I found that out.
06:51:21.720
I wouldn't really mind it because with my own way of looking at relationships, like
06:51:28.860
I feel like there needs to be an official communication and title of things being exclusive.
06:51:47.200
I think she did do something wrong, and that's why she feels guilty for it.
06:51:52.380
Like, why else would you be, like, writing, like, this is, like, this post is just proof
06:51:56.660
that she feels guilty and that she is guilty because she clearly felt bad about it because
06:52:10.980
They weren't exclusive or whatever, but if you're talking to someone, you need to make
06:52:16.060
it clear that you're either hooking up or you're, like, dating.
06:52:20.500
You can't just be like, oh, well, I don't know what we are.
06:52:27.540
That's why these things happen, because they don't communicate, and that's her fault for not
06:52:32.520
Also, if you think he's the one, then why would you be sleeping with your old friends
06:52:40.260
I think, like, if they weren't dating and they, like, weren't exclusive, she didn't do anything
06:53:04.820
If you skip to the line where it says, I wanted to build slowly with this man, so we didn't
06:53:14.040
But between the first date and that point, I did see an old friends with benefits a couple
06:53:22.180
So she told him, she told him, she was virtue signaling, that she wanted to build slowly
06:53:34.480
Sex is this, like, cherish-a-ble-s-a-ble thing.
06:53:54.460
So while he was taking her out on dates, and it could have...
06:54:01.140
Um, but I think it would be fair to say here that he wanted to smash and she was like pumping
06:54:09.540
the brakes. She was pumping the brakes saying, no, no, no, no. Like I want to build slowly.
06:54:16.260
Meanwhile, she friends with benefits who she didn't build slowly with. She was given pussy
06:54:23.620
to this dude while this other sucker was taking her on dates. Do not a little ass out hug at the
06:54:30.960
end of the date, a little kiss on the lips. And then she goes and suck some other dude's cock.
06:54:35.860
But if it's an old friends with benefits, it means it's someone that she's gotten with before.
06:54:39.160
So I wonder if that changed. She still told the guy she, she wanted to build slowly and be
06:54:44.020
exclusive at some point. She told him, but did she, but did she, did they establish a relationship?
06:54:51.060
Did they both together said, okay, no. So yes, there, there was not an overt, there was not a
06:54:57.400
conversation about exclusivity, but yeah, but yeah, you're trying to loophole it, but she
06:55:04.280
said, I want to build slowly, which would imply that she's not fucking another dude while she's
06:55:10.580
dating him. Want, wanting something doesn't necessarily mean like we can want something,
06:55:17.720
but do we get that, that do we get what we want in the end? She did. How does this not make
06:55:23.400
this point? She got both men. Well, she, well, well, she, well, she actually, he broke up
06:55:28.920
with her because she did tell him because she felt guilty. Yeah, but she had both of them
06:55:33.160
at one point. Should she have kept it a secret? Well, but they weren't exclusive. Let me ask
06:55:36.720
you a question. Would you have kept it a secret? Okay. So here's the thing. My thing is if my
06:55:43.640
partner, would you have kept it a secret? Would I've kept it? Well, yes, because it's not, if we're
06:55:48.320
not dating, if we're not dating, they're just not, wait, so we were dating. They were dating. They
06:55:55.900
just weren't like, she said, can you pull it up? Sure. It wasn't technically official is my
06:56:02.520
understanding. Yes. Because hold on, but she clearly communicated that she didn't want to become
06:56:10.100
intimate. I've recently gone. So here's exclusive. Wait, wait, wait. I've recently gone official with
06:56:16.620
a man. I've been dating for a couple of months, indicating that they were like dating for a
06:56:20.940
couple of months, but it had not been official. So they've been court. So she's been courting with
06:56:27.300
him. Yes. But she said, I wanted to build slowly with this man. So we didn't have sex until after
06:56:37.000
going exclusive. So for months, this guy was taking this chick on dates, thinking she was the
06:56:41.840
type of woman to wait for sex. So she was kind of misleading him to some degree. All the while,
06:56:48.500
while she was building slowly and building towards this, like, I guess, a big thing, like this
06:56:54.560
meaningful relationship, she's getting her back blown out by her friends with benefits.
06:57:00.100
Okay. I see where your point is. However, I'm going to disagree because of the thing,
06:57:05.540
the thing I want to say, they've been dating. They've been, he's been courting her. When you're
06:57:10.520
courting, when you're dating somebody and you're, you didn't establish a title with that person,
06:57:15.480
you have free game with whoever you want to be with. Just, just because they went on dates for a
06:57:21.820
couple of months does not negate the fact that he didn't say, will you be my girlfriend? And now in
06:57:26.980
the text, did, did it state in the text that they, she, he asked to be his girlfriend? Wait,
06:57:32.640
it just says that they were dating for a couple months and then they recently went official.
06:57:37.120
Dating. I mean, well, okay. So just to be clear, the argument here is not that she cheated on him.
06:57:41.820
Okay. But argument here is that she, she was like, I made this guy wait months to hit
06:57:49.840
claiming like trying to feign virtue. Meanwhile, she was like getting fucked by her friends with
06:57:56.880
benefits. Yeah. I don't, that's the issue. You don't think it's wrong because it's there.
06:58:01.340
Did you do that to your husband? There's no establishment.
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No, no, no. Hold on. Did you do that? Did your husband? No, I didn't do that to my husband. Did
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your husband like hit right away or? No, he talked, he told me first that he was talking to
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somebody. He came to me, he, before we even started dating and we, before we even started
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courting with each other, he told me, Hey, I am talking to somebody. If she would have said that
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to him or to, if she would have said that to the guy in the beginning, then I would be like.
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But she didn't because it was her choice. She, she chose not to say anything. She chose
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to lie because she wanted to slowly build. She wanted to manipulate. She was manipulating
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the situation on purpose. It is 100% manipulation. Yes it is. That's exactly what manipulation
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is. Calm down baby girl. Cause I'm not trying to. You're frustrating me. I'm just trying to
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say if he, if they were courting, if they were dating for a couple of months, okay. Dating can
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mean boyfriend and girlfriend and to your guys' eyes, dating is boyfriend and girlfriend. To me,
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dating is courting. Okay. If he has not established where boyfriend and girlfriend,
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then I say she has free game. She does not have to tell him his, her every move on what she does with
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another man. However, she did feel guilty because she wants, wanted to build that relationship with
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this man. Let me ask you, can I, can I, can I ask you a question? So, so you, you have this guy that
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you really like, right? Okay. And he tells you, Hey, like, I don't want to be intimate with you.
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Like exactly what this situation is. Okay. I don't want to be intimate with you until I have decided
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that like, you're the one I want to be with. But in order to do that, I got to sleep with this other
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girl first. How would that make you feel? Well, you can't be with anyone else. And then like,
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I'm going to, well, who's to, who's to say that the thing about the answer, I want to wait. And
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like, that means like, I'm not a very, I'm, I'm very holy. I want to wait. And you have to,
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you have to court me. You have to take me on dates every single weekend, spend your money and your
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time. And I'm going to make you think that you're courting me and I'm the only person that you're
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talking to until you get to the point where I, you're, we're in a relationship. But because I
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really just wanted to hook up with other guys and I was making you wait, I'm going to go hook up
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with my ex. But doesn't that happen all the time? While I'm telling you and building a relationship
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with you and someone I think that is, could be my husband and someone I think that is treating me
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well. Someone who's a really good guy. That's fucked up. But she was court. They were just dating.
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But saying that you want to build something with someone implies that you're not having sex with
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other people. Okay. But should, did she, okay. So the thing about it is, was she like with him?
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Was she with him? Who cares? Who cares? No. That's enough of that logic. Who cares? Why
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are you asking? No, I'm just asking a question. I'm just asking a simple question because I
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would just want to understand. Was she at the time effing him while they were dating for a
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couple of months? No, that's the whole point. Okay. Then that's fair. It's fair. No, because
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she was making him wait. She was making him wait. Making him wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
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wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. She's making him earn it while she's literally
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hooking up with his ex while she thinks he's, could be her husband. And he probably thinks she's not
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having sex with anyone. She said, we've been dating for a couple of months. To me, dating
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is bullshit. I can make this so easy. I can make this really easy. Okay. I'm done. I'm
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done. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Okay. Let me make this really easy. Okay. So here's
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the scenario. Let's like exit the bird's eye view and go right into like an anecdotal experience.
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So they're cuddling the, the guy who she's not fucking, they're cuddling. And the guy's
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like, babe, like, I really like you. Like, I, I want to, I want to have sex. And she says,
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translate, she lies. And she says, Oh, I'm sorry. I'd like to wait a little longer. Like,
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I don't do that. Like I, I want to wait while she's banging this other guy. And then hold
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on, hold on. And then that date wraps up at 9 PM at 10 PM. She goes over to the FWB, the
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friend with benefits, uh, house. And then she brings him. Well, okay. I'm not going to end
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up her. She just goes over, walks through the door, goes over to his bed, gets into doggy
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style. And he just fucks her. You don't think there's anything wrong with that? Did he establish
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that they were boyfriend and girlfriend? No. Okay. I've already told you. I don't think
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that that's wrong, but she's okay. Again, she's, she tells him in that date moment. Uh, yeah,
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I look, I really like you, but I just want to wait longer to like have sex because you know
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that I just want, you know? Yeah. And then later that night she fucks some dude. Like
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that's lying. That's so disrespectful. You know what I mean? And that's, you want that
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to be your husband? That's the man, that's the one. But that's hypothetical though. You're
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saying this. But this actually happened to this girl. But I'm just, I'm just trying to explain
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to you guys. She said they've been dating for a couple of months. To me, dating is courtship.
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I've been trying to say that to you guys. Exactly. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, wait,
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wait, wait, wait, stop, stop, stop. Hold on. Courtship. Yes. Ah, courtship, court, ship,
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chivalry, right? You think a woman fucking another dude while you're courting her, you
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think she's deserving of courtship? Nah, she's for the streets. She's a fucking 304. Fuck
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no. You don't, you don't, if you're, hold on. If, if, if you're a girl and you're, you think
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you deserve courtship and you're getting your guts rearranged by your, some other fucking
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dude, you're not a lady. You don't get chivalry. You don't get courtship. Back to the streets
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you go. Period. That's what he ended up doing to her. Is that correct? That's what he ended
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up doing to her. Yeah, because she did something wrong. But you're talking courtship. You're
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talking courtship. But you can never know. That's it. You could be dating somebody for a couple
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of months. Like we can have the, there's a thing called the talking stage. You talk for a guy
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for three months. Is that technically dating? But if you tell the guy that you want to date
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him and that you're saving yourself for him for later and then you go fuck some other
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dude, that's not honest. But my thing, okay, but like that's, then my thing, my question
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is, because this is what I want to understand, is dating and talking stage the same thing?
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I think that that's not even the issue that they're trying to bring up. It's more the fact
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that she was basically misleading him about what her values are. Yes. And I think that it'd be,
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it would have been one thing if he was saying, I want to wait. And she said, okay, well, I'm
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going to go get the pleasure from somewhere else. But he wasn't. It was her saying, I
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want to wait. So it's kind of like, it's just kind of, yeah, it's kind of hypocritical
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because it's like, you know, it would have been completely one thing if he was the one
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who was pumping the brakes and she was like, well, you know, I got to get, I'm got to get
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it done. What about the impression? Like people talk a lot about, oh, we're just in the
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talking stage. We haven't got to the commitment stage, this and that, but all of that's based
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around body language signals, what we think, the impressions we give each other. And so it's like,
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what impression was this guy under? He must've been under the impression that it was leading to
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something or else, why was this chick guilty to begin with? Why did she feel so guilty? She posted
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about it to begin with. Thank you. The thing about it is, is like, if, if she were to done
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this friends with benefits while they were courting each other, I can understand his perspective,
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like why he didn't want to be in a relationship with her. Well, what's courting first?
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Courting is, well, I'm sorry. I use, I use old English language. Okay. No, no, no, listen,
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listen. I just want to know. It's fine to use the word courting. I think courting exists.
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I just want to know what it means to you. Well, courting to me means like little dates,
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like taking her out to the movies, walking her in the park, you know, um, doing little
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fun activities with each other. That's, that's to me, that's courting. So this getting to know
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you courtship phase that you're doing with this person, it could last months, right? Of course.
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Do you think that you can give signals and impressions and convey yourself in such a way
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where you give the other person the impression that you want something significantly more than
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what's currently happening, even though you don't say it? Well, yeah. Yeah, sure. Our body language,
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sure. Yeah, of course. And we're using emotional language, this type of thing, right? So it doesn't
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stand to reason she could have been conveying that to him, right? Which is why she felt guilty enough
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to make the post to begin with. She also could be conveying that she was in an open market. She
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was lying though. The post, the post doesn't say anything about her conveying she was in an open
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market. She says, so let's look at the distinction between a technicality and the impression. Sure.
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You can say technically, and this is kind of your argument, right? Technically she was in the clear
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because we hadn't made it official. We hadn't made it what it is, but that doesn't mean that
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the other person's under that impression. And if the other person was under that impression
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and then you told them that shit, what do you think they're going to do? Of course.
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They're going to fucking dump your ass, right? Yeah, of course. Makes you think perhaps the
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impression she gave was exactly the type of impression that would have got your ass dumped,
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right? Well, then that's her fault for making that impression not known to him. Like you said,
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it all stems back to communication. Or maybe she did let that impression get known. That's
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why he thought that's what was going on. I do have to move it on, but guys, TTS has been
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lowered to $100. If you want to get $100 TTS in, we have Sarah here. Sarah underscore whatever
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fan donated $100. Long time view at first time commenter. Chair three, please don't join
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off. Chair five is trying to manipulate you into it. She will gaslight you on the way home.
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Deep down, you know you don't want this. Yo, Sarah, thank you for the big first time
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ever. TTS, really appreciate it. Thank you so much, Sarah. Guys, W's in the chat for Sarah
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for her first time. TTS, really appreciate it. That sounded so bad, bro. Wait, what? For
07:08:13.780
Sarah's first time. We took her TTS virginity. I'm going to finish up with Tavi, your notes here.
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Then we got to get into the questionnaire. Then you have to open the pickle jar. Okay, so you only
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officially dated in fifth grade and the end of your senior year in high school. We talked about
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that at a fair. There was this guy who you hooked up with before and you hung out and he kept telling
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people that you guys had sex. You cried and didn't want to think about it ever again because
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your own mental health, maybe. But you also hated Howie was super buff but short.
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It was very scary. So this is like early in my ho phase. Wait, ho phase? Ho phase?
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I didn't hear. Did you hear anything about a ho phase? No. No, that was her friend who had the
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ho phase. But I guess it was a, she also had a ho phase. You had a ho phase too? Haven't they all
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had a ho phase? We didn't know each other. We didn't know each other. How long was this ho phase?
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This was like after I graduated. Oh, the summer after graduation is when it goes down. It does.
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That's so true. Yeah. It does. So, okay. You had a ho phase. Got my diploma. Time to fuck. Two guys in one day?
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Two guys in one day? I've like had that happen before but not on this occasion. No, no, no. Yeah,
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I'm just talking in general. Two guys in one day? Yeah. Three guys in one day?
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Within the span of 24 hours but not the same day. Ever had a threesome? Yes. Foursome?
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No. More than the foursome? No. Okay. Four guys in one day? How about a 48-hour period?
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Say it. Say it. I'm thinking. I'm trying to. It's been a while since I've thought about these memories.
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All right. But so, you hated how he's super buff but short?
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He honestly, like, he was like, like, I don't mind about the height thing but really buff guys scare me.
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Yeah, they have super strength. They're like Vulcans.
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They can take on orcs in fist fights. I've seen legal laws.
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All right. So, let's see. You said you don't date to marry.
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You said a lot of women claim to be bisexual when they're bi-curious and haven't been with a woman.
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Oh, so you date, like, a trans person or whatever.
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No, that just means no gender attraction whatsoever.
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Which just means you like to fuck women and men.
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I feel like if you're a trans woman, male to female, to establish that is, like, different from biologically being born as a woman.
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And you could say, well, then if a man transitions to a female, I'll have sex with them.
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But if a female transitions to a man, I'll have sex with them.
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But if we just left it normal and said, you're a male and you're a female, you'd have sex with both of them, too.
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Why does it even matter when you talk about gender?
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But a lot of people who will be bisexual don't.
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There's also intersex, which they don't have a penis or a vagina.
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You want to be bisexual, but you wouldn't want to be with a transgender person.
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Well, I mean, you can dry the top of the lid, yeah.
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No, she literally took a bite and she dipped the fucking...
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All right, put the cap back on before you make more of a mess.
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By the way, it does say Easy Open right on the side of it.
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We're going to get into the questionnaire, then we're going to try to get this wrapped up.
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What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
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I think I wrote down a comfortable amount, which by the time I get married, inflation might be worse, so it might be more.
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I put down, I don't know, but I just want to be comfortable with a few extra luxuries.
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I think I put down 100K because I wasn't sure of the average income in the state.
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He's currently tutoring, but he's looking for another job.
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Like, if I'm, like, if we're, like, fucking bawling.
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I just wish I could say, but I can't disclose it on here, so.
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He's a chef, and he works at a mechanic company.
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So, even if he was a full-time mechanic, full-time.
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Got a mechanic's wage and was a full-time cook at a five-star restaurant.
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Even as a private chef, that's half a million dollars a year.
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Our boyfriend's need to cook off, because my boyfriend cooks, too.
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That your husband makes half a million dollars a year.
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Like I said, European men work really hard, so.
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They don't make, do you know how much fucking money is this?
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Wait, so you're just, so essentially you're saying that your husband is not your ideal?
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There might be multiple breakups tonight, guys.
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Well, now I feel like I'm really going to get laughed at because I put a million dollars.
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If it's $500,000 minimum, you just lied on your application.
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I thought it was ideal because then I was like, okay, well.
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Your husband doesn't make $500,000 at the minimum.
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You want one that makes a million dollars minimum?
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If he had that million dollar man, then I would not cheat on him.
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So just, I want to do some body count math here.
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So if it's going to be at least 100, you think a fucking millionaire is going to marry you
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If there's one chick who has 100 fucking bodies that you can marry, there's another chick
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No one's going to be marrying you for your money.
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Okay, so, well, I'll ask you that question later because I'm sure she has to answer her.
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But my question to you is, why don't you want to get married but you would rather have
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Just to be clear, do I need to get married to impregnate a woman?
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I'm just like, are you a person that believes in love or are you just like-
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Wait, do I need to get married to believe in love?
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You just assume he's going to pay child support instead of being with the mom and take care
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But they're not married, so you're just together.
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Wait, my mom and my dad were not married and they had me.
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I just thought you were just like, we couldn't get seven kids.
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I mean, I don't really want to linger on the marriage topic too long, but here, just one
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Okay, so I could lay out all the reasons why I think marriage is bad for men.
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Why don't you provide for me, though, a reason why I or other men should get married?
07:25:39.340
If you say because of tax purposes, all that that implies is we should change the tax code,
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You don't really save very much, to be perfectly honest with you, between couples.
07:25:55.620
So, what is the reason men should get married, is Brian's question.
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Well, for Brian specifically, he's laid out the kind of woman that he wants to be with,
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And if a traditional woman ideally wants to be with a traditional man, I feel like she'd
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probably want to be married with you if she's going to have seven of your children.
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Okay, well, that's really weird because literally in the thing that you said, it contradicts
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And yet, the type of woman Brian wants is the type of woman he doesn't have to marry.
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So, she can't be very fucking traditional, can't she?
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I'm not going to say that because that was just bad logic.
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That's the kind of woman that you'd want in your life.
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A traditional woman probably wants to be married with children.
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Okay, but he says he doesn't want to get married, so how does he want a traditional woman?
07:26:57.540
So, he wouldn't be with her, so he doesn't want a traditional woman.
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Dude, lift your arm all the way up and just like shove your nose in.
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Well, you just had a beer and you looked like you were sniffing yours, too.
07:28:22.080
Nobody says that fucking that guy Edward from Twilight's a pervert.
07:28:32.500
But also, the writer of that book was like a crazy Mormon woman.
07:28:45.220
I'm still waiting for like why I should get married or why I meant to get married.
07:28:49.640
Why I meant to get married or why Brian should get married.
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I have a good answer for like my beliefs, but you're not me, so I can't really give you
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Like if you're, I just think maybe you should go to church.
07:29:04.740
But you're saying like, you're saying if you're a Christian, that's like the reason, right?
07:29:08.700
I don't think it's, I mean, I think there's a foundation that you're building like a family
07:29:12.680
and like the morals that, whatever religion that is, like that you want to build a life
07:29:19.140
together and you want to have that life together.
07:29:24.180
So, Brian goes to a Mormon church because you told him to and he gets four wives.
07:29:34.460
It's a good way for him to have seven kids and not get one woman pregnant with seven
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See, she's taking notes from her ex who had seven...
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Brian's becoming Muslim so he can take care of multiple wives.
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You're going to get a jihad on this place, bro.
07:30:16.460
You probably said, like, Satan beyond the Muslims or something crazy.
07:30:30.400
So, you guys are not wanting any wives to now four?
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Because you're not going to just get seven boys.
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Some girls are going to be, like, 20 kids in the crowd.
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My point is, maybe this isn't for you, Brian, but for me, one of the only reasons I want
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to even actually get married is just to have the celebration.
07:31:25.680
Now, I don't think I'm going to tie myself to the state.
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I'm not going to have, like, a real wedding, I don't think.
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But I'm just saying, I think it's cute to have, like, a little ceremony.
07:31:39.180
If you just do the little ceremony for the I love you, I love you, baby, here's a ceremony.
07:31:58.180
It's basically we're still girlfriend and boyfriend, but we're not technically legally married.
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That's like being baptized in, like, at the beach and not, like, in holy water.
07:32:13.700
I'm not saying Brian should do that for himself.
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Yeah, that sounds like why women should get married.
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He doesn't even, he doesn't even really want to get married.
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So I think you should get married because I think you have someone to take care of you,
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Someone that can cook for you, can clean for you.
07:33:05.140
Someone that can hold your hand when you're down.
07:33:07.680
Someone that can wipe your tears when you're sad.
07:33:10.380
Someone that can be your biggest team player and cheer you up and hype you up every single
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Why do you need marriage for any of those things?
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Dude, pull up this clip in 10 years when he's still single.
07:33:19.120
Because you need to give women a commitment so they want to stay to you and give you all
07:33:22.560
You can give a woman a commitment to stay, to give you all those things, without marrying
07:33:27.860
If I'm 40 and I still just have a boyfriend, tell me.
07:33:32.840
What is the enforcement mechanism in which is going to keep this relationship together
07:33:41.420
When Brian says, wait a second, we can have all those things absent marriage.
07:33:49.960
I mean, I'm not Brian, but I was just trying to, I was just trying to help Brian.
07:33:55.540
Any man on planet earth, we go through all your qualia there, right?
07:34:07.740
So I have a different thing that I was trying to come up with Brian's like, yeah, from a,
07:34:17.080
I mean, I just think monogamy, like I promote monogamy.
07:34:20.260
But you can be monogamous without being married.
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But I just think it helps people wouldn't want to stay like more loyal for whatever reason.
07:34:30.960
So isn't there actually, when it comes to the divorce laws that exist in this country,
07:34:40.980
isn't there actually like, let's say I'm the breadwinner, I'm the high income earner,
07:34:44.780
and she's like, stay at home wife, whatever, taking care of the kids.
07:34:49.160
Because doesn't like, as the marriage progresses, isn't there like a continually cascading and
07:34:55.420
developing incentive for her to end the marriage when it comes to finances, right?
07:35:01.100
So if my like ultimate goal in a relationship is to ensure that she stays with me, wouldn't
07:35:07.740
the like ultimate dynamic be, if you leave me, you get nothing.
07:35:13.140
But all of a sudden, if you leave me, and you get hundreds of thousands of dollars, millions
07:35:20.000
of dollars, that kind of starts seeming really, really nice for the woman.
07:35:43.760
Is marriage from a Christian purview about the sacrament or about some contract?
07:35:58.400
If it's about the sacrament and you're a Christian, right?
07:36:02.000
If you don't belong to a church, which I'm guessing you don't.
07:36:23.380
You get a sacrament done by this non-denominational church.
07:36:52.040
Well, there's no mechanism to do it in a non-denominational church.
07:36:58.740
So how would you even do the Christian portion of the marriage absent the state?
07:37:11.320
He goes to God and says, no the fuck we didn't.
07:37:22.380
I don't want, let's try not to like linger on any one thing for too long.
07:37:30.660
Do you think if a woman, there's no abuse in the relationship, treats the kids well,
07:37:37.460
treats you well, no, no abuse, no physical abuse, no emotional abuse, nothing like that.
07:37:53.240
If you don't, I think that that's, I think, I think if you're not in love with the person,
07:38:03.940
No, I think that when you commit to someone, you're committing to working on the relationship
07:38:10.000
and people have times where they're not connected and they're not happy, but you have to continue
07:38:16.540
I think you can keep on trying to put in the work and go to couples therapy and things like
07:38:21.380
But my parents, with my background of them being divorced in middle school and having
07:38:26.600
four siblings, so overall five children, I feel like I would want to leave in it.
07:38:49.920
I wouldn't sacrifice my mental health for just a family.
07:38:55.580
Men will sacrifice their happiness for their family.
07:38:58.880
Women will sacrifice their family for their happiness.
07:39:03.440
How tall are you and what's both the minimum and ideal height of a man you would date?
07:39:17.220
I'm 5'0", minimum would be 5'5", and ideal would be 5'8".
07:39:25.800
I'm 5'5", minimum would be probably like 5'3 to like six.
07:39:41.280
I'm 5'0", but my minimum is just anything taller than me, and then my ideal is like six foot.
07:39:48.460
I'm 5'5", and my minimum is 5'5", and my ideal is 5'10".
07:39:55.200
I thought you dated all these guys, you're 5'2".
07:40:01.760
I'm 5'3", and my ideal is six foot, and I only go date dudes six foot and above.
07:40:11.440
Um, I just like anybody that's 5'5", and above.
07:40:16.000
Would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest?
07:40:52.960
Because you never know what to expect from a man, but you know what to expect from a bear.
07:41:02.560
I'll, like, do the technique where you lay the flat on the floor.
07:41:06.740
Well, the idea here is, like, you are crossing paths, so they're aware of your presence.
07:41:29.060
And so, basically, if I understand it correctly, your guys' fear or concern here when it comes
07:41:33.880
to the man is, like, the bear could murder you, the man could murder you, the man could
07:41:43.040
So, just what percentage of men do you think would be inclined to SAU, basically?
07:41:58.800
I wouldn't have a good guesstimate, a good guesstimation either.
07:42:06.460
If a meteor was going to hit the planet tomorrow and blow everybody to hell if you didn't guess
07:42:39.560
If the world depended on it, the meteor is going to strike.
07:42:41.140
If the world depended on it, I'd probably say it's a 50-50 chance.
07:42:48.900
I wouldn't like for that to be the case, but...
07:42:55.380
I don't know if this question is going to hit quite the same.
07:43:13.700
Well, it would actually be, in this case, if you say 50% of all men...
07:43:19.960
But to refute the point, if you say 50% of all men would do this, then that's exactly
07:43:28.000
I guess I said that there's a 50-50 chance that any man would make the decision to do
07:43:34.460
I don't think that all men are inherently people who would essay somebody, but I think
07:43:39.000
That would stand a reason if 50% wouldn't do it.
07:43:41.880
Is the opportunity just, like, seeing a girl in the woods, though?
07:43:46.200
I don't have a great stance on this, if I'm going to be honest.
07:43:50.040
You're teleported against your will, and so is this random man.
07:44:00.860
But you're teleported into the middle of a forest.
07:44:10.560
I just feel like me and the bear would be friends.
07:44:22.000
I wonder if this would change the answer for you or for you.
07:44:24.720
You do realize that there is the chance that you could spawn in the forest with a multi-millionaire
07:44:42.420
I think some is just not a small enough amount for me to want to risk that.
07:44:45.800
Just so you know, almost 10% of the United States population are millionaires.
07:44:58.440
But it varies across a huge, wide array of age spectrums.
07:45:04.500
Mostly because retirement accounts, IRAs, things like this, they end up kind of accruing
07:45:10.440
about a million dollars worth of assets, right?
07:45:12.960
So the thing is, like, you could spawn with one of them.
07:45:19.380
You could spawn with a fucking NBA player who's super handsome and has millions.
07:45:32.680
We're going to get into the rest of the questionnaire then.
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The question is, do transgender individuals have a duty to disclose to romantic partners?
07:45:50.360
I feel like it depends if they've had bottom surgery and they're going to be intimate with
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And then Riley, are you in the middle on this one?
07:46:16.540
So it depends if they have bottom surgery for you.
07:46:20.160
I'm not, I haven't been in that situation, so I wouldn't really know what to do.
07:46:23.340
I feel like most people who are trans do generally disclose that information because there's that
07:46:28.760
whole thing about, like, feeling a lot of men, like, specifically if it's a trans woman,
07:46:32.700
men sometimes feel like they're being, like, misled.
07:46:34.640
And, well, they, what do you mean they feel like?
07:46:44.220
So, McKenna, your position on this, you said no?
07:46:47.120
Yeah, I mean, I think it doesn't really matter.
07:46:50.180
I feel like you'd be able to tell, like, once you get all the clothes off.
07:47:02.420
Do you think this is a safe thing for trans women to do?
07:47:10.700
To pursue a sexual encounter and just let the guy feel your cock.
07:47:17.940
Well, that's actually a really good point to bring up because I feel like there has been
07:47:20.580
a lot of violence against trans women specifically because they didn't disclose it.
07:47:24.100
So, it's almost like maybe you should to prevent that.
07:47:26.280
Besides the safety risk to the transgender woman, isn't it just kind of, like, the courteous
07:47:38.060
Let's say you were at a bar and there was a really good-looking dude.
07:47:45.380
And, you know, he had all the right moves and you went home with him.
07:47:50.480
And then right after you had sex, he did a Scooby-Doo and he pulled off a mask, right?
07:47:56.800
And underneath was a wart-infested 50-year-old.
07:48:12.560
Whether or not you think it would ever happen or not, I just want to ask again, he shouldn't
07:48:28.600
So he pulls off the mask, warts everywhere, ugliest sin, he's missing most of his teeth.
07:48:36.480
I mean, at that point I'd just say, well, already happened, boy-bye.
07:48:43.560
I would have rather, less I know the better, like I said earlier.
07:48:45.900
But if he had disclosed that before you had gone home with him, would you have gone home
07:48:53.660
I want you to engage with the actual question I asked.
07:48:56.480
If he had engaged with you and showed you his true self beforehand and you wouldn't have
07:49:12.620
If you say it doesn't matter if a trans person discloses it or not, in this case, you say,
07:49:17.760
okay, well, fuck, if they pulled the mask off, that would be awful.
07:49:20.900
I ask you, okay, if they would have disclosed that before, would you have gone home with
07:49:26.920
I just want to know what trans people, you know, that wear super realistic masks instead
07:49:30.800
Thank you, because that was not a great analogy when you came up with the trans person.
07:49:47.220
It doesn't have to be realistic to test your...
07:49:49.100
In fact, it shouldn't be realistic to test your logic.
07:49:53.500
All I'm doing is making a comparison between something which would be similar in instance,
07:50:03.480
If you saw a guy who you were totally in every way unattracted to, would you go home with him?
07:50:10.120
If for some reason you saw this person as being super attractive because you were under the
07:50:16.240
influence of drugs and he didn't know, or he was wearing a mask, or there was some other
07:50:22.360
compelling reason why you didn't know that he was actually unattractive, right?
07:50:33.340
In this case, he was wearing a literal fucking mask, a literal mask.
07:50:36.960
You peel the mask back and he's an ugly fuck, right?
07:50:40.300
Don't you think he should have disclosed that without tricking you?
07:50:47.120
So if a man can gussy himself up in a way, hide everything from you,
07:50:55.420
You're talking about transgender people and a person with a literal mask on.
07:51:01.640
Your hypothetical sense does not make sense to me.
07:51:07.340
It's not because a transgender person, they alternated their body to become a certain person.
07:51:17.960
The second you find out that they're not that thing, they are ripping it off.
07:51:24.840
Yeah, you wouldn't look at them any differently.
07:51:30.420
If a woman hadn't, like you slept with this woman, she's beautiful.
07:51:34.800
And then you found out that she had had a bunch of facial and body surgery.
07:51:38.080
Would you feel like she should have told you that she had facial and body surgery?
07:51:58.580
And I just want you to have a watcha as I destroy your gotcha.
07:52:21.440
I was mocking myself because you called me a witch.
07:52:29.580
You say, well, what about the altercations which have happened?
07:52:35.660
If you had known that this woman had been altered, would it change your decision?
07:52:41.580
The question becomes, if you had known this woman was altered and it would change your
07:52:50.240
So if you knew that this person was a male and you thought it was a female and slept with
07:52:56.160
it, if you had known that it wasn't, would it change your opinion?
07:53:04.020
I have trans friends or transgender friends who literally, they think it's super important
07:53:16.220
Because they wouldn't want to be with someone who doesn't accept that.
07:53:18.760
I definitely think you should disclose that, in my opinion.
07:53:26.380
If they say that they're a woman, they're a woman.
07:53:31.320
Because you're not going to get an STD from someone just because they're trans.
07:53:34.820
You might not get HIV from them just because they have HIV.
07:53:41.300
A man with HIV can come all up in you and it doesn't mean you're going to get HIV.
07:53:48.940
How does it affect you by sleeping with someone who's trans?
07:53:53.580
What would be the negative effect of sleeping with someone who's trans and you didn't know?
07:54:00.360
Oh, not only feeling tricked, right, but mortified, horrified.
07:54:07.640
It could make you question all sorts of things.
07:54:09.080
What would be the negative effect of sleeping with a man with HIV if you didn't get it?
07:54:18.840
But if you didn't get it, then I wouldn't be mad about it.
07:54:25.920
Because you could also help them out along the way.
07:54:42.540
You did say, though, on this topic that if they transition, that this is, like, they should not disclose if they've transitioned?
07:55:01.560
I mean, like, if there's no way of telling, I don't really see the harm.
07:55:07.160
If you're going to sleep with this person one time and never again, like, I don't really see the harm.
07:55:10.440
But if it's, like, if it's a beautiful woman on the outside, maybe she still has her penis.
07:55:16.880
I actually think that there would be, if they've had bottom surgery and you don't disclose, here's the difference.
07:55:27.420
If they have a penis and the guy is straight, that guy is going to back out of the sexual encounter immediately.
07:55:35.740
Ah, but if they've gotten the bottom surgery and it's, I mean, my understanding of it, hold on, hold on, calm down.
07:55:46.880
Got to let people finish their arguments before you just jump in.
07:55:48.760
Baby, you're the one who has steam coming out of your ears, not me.
07:55:51.820
So if they have the bottom surgery, right, it's conceivable that this could trick a man, right?
07:56:01.200
I personally think that there's, that's not pussy.
07:56:05.900
Like, that's not, it's cock, but, like, inside of you.
07:56:11.580
Everybody, a cock literally is the inside or the outside inversion of a vagina.
07:56:20.900
So just to be clear, just to be clear, you, you think that, like, it's, it's not exactly
07:56:26.520
So when, when a transgender woman has had the bottom surgery, you think, yeah, you can roll
07:56:35.320
So you think it is, like, nearly identical to vagina?
07:56:44.320
It looks, men will fuck a pocket pussy, but not a, not an engineered vagina.
07:56:51.660
Oh, but the second that this person used to be, maybe was born a man, all of a sudden
07:57:00.180
Your argument is essentially just like, if a woman is true.
07:57:03.140
I literally said that they should disclose it probably for their safety, and you're
07:57:06.160
exactly saying why, it's because men will feel tricked, and then they might result in
07:57:13.760
You want me to say, yes, they should always tell?
07:57:15.860
Absent, physical threat to the transgender, it's still wrong.
07:57:23.500
What we were talking, like what we were talking about earlier, the misleading.
07:57:28.080
Okay, so then you're, then absolutely you're right, they should always disclose that they
07:57:31.260
are trans before engaging in a sexual activity.
07:57:39.800
Yeah, you should definitely disclose, one, for the safety component, and two, to just
07:57:43.360
be a courteous, decent human being who doesn't trick people, trick men who are straight,
07:57:55.220
I just, I feel like how often does that happen?
07:58:05.480
So then why is it such an issue for you, if it's never even happened to you?
07:58:14.220
I'm pro-choice because I think people can do whatever they want to do.
07:58:16.540
Oh, okay, but you've never had an abortion, so you can't have an opinion on this.
07:58:24.560
It never happened to you, Brian, so you can't have an opinion.
07:58:30.300
It's not a conversation because you're getting mad at me.
07:58:32.440
I'm not getting mad at you, you're just being ridiculous.
07:58:41.600
But they're exploring, and sometimes some men, they don't really care.
07:58:49.620
Well, no, they're not straight, but like, if they're...
07:58:53.740
So what makes them not straight if they are just, if they're considered bisexual then?
07:58:59.700
Like, I'm sorry, if you're a straight guy, and you're thinking about sucking cock, you're
07:59:11.280
But the thing about it is, is like, the reason why I said maybe is because like, one, I'm not
07:59:23.760
We can't be like, okay, well, you should, you know, disclose this, because it's not our
07:59:27.720
Yeah, but it's possible you guys would date a trans man.
07:59:32.360
No, but you can't have an opinion about it, because you as women could encounter a scenario...
07:59:38.020
Can you stop interrupting and just let me finish the sentence?
07:59:41.440
You guys, as women, could encounter a trans man.
07:59:50.880
You can't have biological kids with your spouse.
07:59:57.180
Right, but maybe like, it's important to you on that.
07:59:59.040
Or maybe you want to date, like, somebody who was born male.
08:00:05.080
Or maybe you just want to date whoever you want to date.
08:00:08.920
If you want to date a trans person, that's totally fine.
08:00:12.780
But maybe there are women out there that don't.
08:00:17.840
Like, we can't decide what if that trans person should disclose the information that they're
08:00:24.380
We can't force them to, but we can say they should.
08:00:27.120
But like Lucy said, if they didn't get bottom surgery, then that isn't understandable.
08:00:35.200
Either way, you should disclose whether you've had bottom surgery or not.
08:00:44.340
Well, that's one reason, but I think it's just like a courtesy to the other person.
08:00:47.880
But I think it would be a bigger deal that you should disclose after you've had bottom
08:00:59.140
I'll find out you have a cock, and I'll have been deceived up until that point, in which
08:01:03.980
point I can extract myself from the sexual encounter.
08:01:07.300
If you have a pussy and you're not disclosing, you've just forced me to be a homosexual, basically.
08:01:17.180
Well, technically that person didn't consent to that, so...
08:01:22.820
So then, the point we're trying to just make is that they should disclose.
08:01:30.040
I think the only reason that we might feel that way is because we wouldn't care either
08:01:35.520
Well, personally, I wouldn't care, but I would want someone to disclose it to me.
08:01:44.000
No, I mean, I don't care about the gender of the person.
08:01:47.940
But you want them to disclose that to you, so you still care.
08:01:51.580
I'm not going to spend too much time on one topic.
08:01:56.940
Next one, is it straight for a man to date a transgender woman?
08:02:15.300
Just so why is it straight for a man to date a transgender woman?
08:02:56.840
I don't actually believe this, but just for the sake of the conversation.
08:02:59.960
I'm going to go ahead and grant that a transgender woman is a woman.
08:03:11.340
But if it's all in the brain, which is what's controlling these meat sacks, then I feel like, yes.
08:03:22.000
We just happen to be given the avatar that we're given.
08:03:26.540
If God doesn't make mistakes, then why would trans people even exist in the first place?
08:03:44.920
They're born female, even if they're born in the wrong body.
08:03:49.640
The soul fairy stuffing the wrong souls in the wrong bodies?
08:03:53.760
I can't even begin to explain what that experience is like, because I am not trans.
08:04:06.680
Come to think of it, you didn't ask me my pronouns.
08:04:11.620
Non-disclosing prior to carnal knowledge is grape.
08:04:19.880
But, anyways, so, I guess going around the table, is a transgender woman female?
08:04:51.820
What's the difference between woman and female?
08:04:53.660
The sex you're born with versus the sex that you present as.
08:04:58.620
Okay, but, like, how would you mentally be female?
08:05:02.700
Like, the way that you were talking about earlier about how, like, women and men have
08:05:05.560
different wants and different beliefs and different, like, ways of thinking and different
08:05:08.940
priorities, if someone who is born biologically male thinks like a woman, then they are a woman.
08:05:15.620
And if they want to be presenting as a woman...
08:05:21.500
Because, like, because they enjoy expressing themselves as a woman.
08:05:30.680
What does it mean to think as a woman versus think as a man?
08:05:34.560
Like, can you actually articulate what that even means?
08:05:36.200
Well, I don't know what it's like to think as a man.
08:05:37.920
I mean, I know that I've wanted to spend a day in a man's shoes.
08:05:40.700
I know that I've definitely questioned that before, but I don't believe that I'm trans.
08:05:43.260
And some people have a really strong belief of that.
08:05:54.280
So, going to you, and you two were the ones who said that it's straight for a man to date
08:06:01.020
How would it be, just, how would it be straight?
08:06:03.240
If a straight man would be okay with the fact that they are trans, which means that they're
08:06:10.320
If they are not okay with it, and if they don't want to describe it as straight, then that's
08:06:14.060
Wait, so someone won't have sex with a trans person, they're transphobic?
08:06:24.260
If you don't believe that a trans woman is a woman, then you are transphobic.
08:06:27.540
So, if you don't believe that dating a woman who is trans is straight, then that's transphobic.
08:06:33.360
If you don't believe in Christianity, you're Christ-phobic.
08:06:46.960
How does that make you feel to oppress Christians like this?
08:07:03.820
So, ignoring gender, because we're talking about sex here, and mind you, heterosexuality,
08:07:10.620
homosexuality, this points to the sex that you're attracted to, not the gender.
08:07:28.100
A male, a male and a female engaging in sex is?
08:07:32.760
Okay, so, a man, a male, with a transgender woman, who's a male, that would then be?
08:07:43.040
Because they're trans, because they made the transition.
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You did agree that a transgender woman is male, correct?
08:07:52.820
I said, biologically, they were born one way, but they changed.
08:08:02.040
I mean, I guess you could call it a queer relationship, then.
08:08:07.500
You can't call it straight, but maybe you'd call it queer.
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I mean, I've definitely seen straight people date gay people.
08:08:20.800
So, like, to my understanding, you're like, okay, so one plus one equals two, but one plus
08:08:26.340
one plus one plus this number, da-da-da-da-da-da, like, this is when I'm, this is how my brain
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Would equal one plus one plus one plus whatever those other numbers are, and then it would
08:08:38.220
Okay, you're telling her about this analogy, gay, like, a man with a man is equals heterosexual.
08:08:46.000
A man with a woman is heterosexual, but a man with a straight, a hetero man with a transgender
08:09:01.700
Your best friend, let's assume for a second he's a man.
08:09:05.580
He comes to you and he says, hey, I just sucked this really hot woman's dick.
08:09:15.120
He says, I just sucked this really hot chick's dick.
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So, if you suck a woman's dick, you're not gay.
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I have a coworker who's intersex and him and his wife are in a straight relationship.
08:09:50.980
You don't know any intersex person who's a female who has a penis?
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I don't know what his genitals are and I don't care.
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So, we'll just go ahead and grant you intersex, fine.
08:10:07.780
The 99% of the other trans people who are not intersex, then that-
08:10:14.160
Are you willing to concede that that would not be straight?
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I feel like I have to, otherwise I'm just going to be-
08:10:21.520
Well, I do because I have my opinion on it and my opinion apparently is not right.
08:10:34.420
Well, if somebody says I have my opinion, you can't change my mind, but they admit that
08:10:38.760
what they have is just an opinion, they actually should be saying my mind can be changed.
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Yeah, because you guys are saying, you're over here and you're talking to Lucy and you're
08:11:00.520
just like, okay, well, I'm trying to instill this type of logic into your brain so you can
08:11:11.500
You would disagree that there's multiple types of logic?
08:11:15.040
But this aside, let's assume for a second there's multiple types of logic.
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I want to talk about the transgender situation.
08:11:29.780
If your friend told you he just sucked a chick's dick, he's straight.
08:11:55.440
I mean, she's pegging a guy with a seven-inch dildo.
08:12:10.040
That doesn't make her gay because she has a boyfriend who fucks dudes.
08:12:15.860
That's already been established that he's bisexual.
08:12:18.720
If you're bisexual, half of you is straight and half of you is-
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Half of you is straight and half of you is what?
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So the thing is, is like, yeah, the dick part makes him fucking gay.
08:12:37.660
And I'm not going to lie here and sit here and lie.
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I've also been with straight men who like to get pegged.
08:12:48.060
Have you been with straight men who like to get fucked by dudes?
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But my question is, my question to you is, if a straight man who likes to be pegged,
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is he considered gay because he likes to be pegged?
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Dude, can we stick onto the fucking conversation?
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And say, that's gross, but he's still a heterosexual.
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But now let me ask you the question in reverse, okay?
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If a man is getting fucked up the ass by his girlfriend's biological penis, is he gay?
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I mean, it's uncomfortable for you to have to confront the fact that you literally think
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It's uncomfortable the fact that you guys think that you can have this conversation
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when none of us are trans and none of us can actually speak on the conversation.
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Again, if you were trans, do you think that it would prevent me from speaking to you about
08:14:02.680
I think that I want to literally walk out a little bit of work, but I'm not going to.
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I'm frustrated because I'm constantly getting interrupted.
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Two males engaged in a romantic or sexual relationship.
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A male and a female engaged in a romantic or sexual relationship.
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We clearly are not going to change our opinions on it.
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You clearly are not going to change your opinion.
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Because in the same way, you would be very upset at me if there was like...
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You are dictating to me what is heterosexuality by saying that, no, Brian, this is what is
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In the same way that you would find it deeply offensive for us to say that gay people don't
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You're dictating to me, essentially, that I am somehow...
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If I didn't date a transgender woman, that that would somehow make me what?
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If he only did it because he didn't want to date a trans person?
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If he doesn't believe that trans people or trans women are women, then that is transphobic.
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If he chooses not to date them, that is not transphobic.
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Why is it transphobic to think that transgender women are not women?
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What do you do about the fact that I don't think it's a phobia?
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It's like saying that I have a phobia against Santa Claus because I don't believe Santa Claus exists.
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I choose to identify as the correct person on this matter.
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And I wish for you to affirm my identity as the correct person.
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Ryan, you're the correct person on this matter.
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What's going on is she's still not really affirming your identity.
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My brain has just melted in the last 20 minutes.
08:18:20.260
Then we'll try to blast through the questionnaire.
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Chair one, you are absolutely in the top 10 most annoying humans on the planet.
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Feel free to leave since you want to act like a child.
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30 seconds and then we're going to move on, hopefully.
08:19:00.120
You guys, to question 18, you said, the question is, is it wrong to refuse to date a transgender
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Now, you actually say no on this, so this is just for you, Elle, and you, Riley.
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You guys say, yes, it is wrong to refuse to date a transgender person because they are
08:19:19.780
I, to be honest with you, I think it's a little bit like, well, obviously, I know you're going
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to go on this topic of, well, it's just somebody's preference or whatever.
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But to me, I think in my emotional standpoint, I think it's wrong to refuse that because
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you're, to me, it's kind of like you're neglecting the fact that she is, you look at her as like
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a transgender woman, so therefore, you're, you're like narrow-minded ideology is like,
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oh, well, she's a, a man, a man trapped inside, trapped inside of a woman's body or whatever
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And I think it's a little bit discriminative in my opinion.
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Is it discriminatory, very quickly, is it discriminatory for a black man not to want to date a white
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I mean, yes, I feel like Ray's, hang on, hang on, can you let her answer?
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Yeah, I, I, I, I believe that a hundred percent.
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I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure she's going to agree with me on this standpoint.
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Before we get into it, give us your take before we give our response.
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Okay, so I feel like it's this, I guess, I'm just going to say it's just disrespectful
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Because, it's like you're disregarding, like, I don't know, never mind.
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You've barely talked all night, just state your position.
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Um, because, I think, what you were saying about it's, like, wrong for, like, the race part
08:21:08.280
This questionnaire was asked before Andrew said that.
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Yeah, I didn't, I didn't even realize it was moving to you.
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Is it wrong for you guys to refuse to, because you said minimum yearly income, you said 70,000,
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And then when it comes to height, you guys are also discriminatory?
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Which would indicate that you would discriminate against anybody below that threshold.
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Okay, well then, yeah, I guess that's a, I guess I'm discriminating against men.
08:22:16.680
Well, yeah, of course I'm in the wrong for discriminating a man that, it makes less than
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You have no preferences when it comes to dating?
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I have because I'm not looking for a relationship, but I haven't rejected them because of them.
08:22:41.600
Oh, but you give sexual access to every single man who talks to you?
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I don't like to give my body out because that's something that's...
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If you had to sleep with a guy for some reason, right, would you prefer that he be six foot
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But so, and Elle, can you explain why it's wrong?
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So, to be honest with you, I think regardless of the...
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At the end of the day, regardless of the situation, we're all human beings.
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No matter if you're transgender, no matter if you're heterosexual, whatever.
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I think it's just, in my opinion, it's wrong because you're sitting here and you are telling
08:24:09.260
If you prefer not to be with a trans woman, go ahead.
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But if you are going to engage in a conversation with a trans woman and you, like, kick it...
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Yeah, you have, like, a conversation with them and it's a really great, amazing conversation,
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But you found out that they're trans and you're like, okay, I'm not going to date you because
08:24:26.380
Okay, you're having a great conversation with a man and it turns out he's married.
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I'm talking about a transgender woman who's a human being.
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I'm talking about a transgender woman who's a human being.
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So then I'm obliged to date them because they're human?
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So you're basically telling me that, like, you're obliged to date a married man.
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You're not obliged to date a married man, just like you're not obliged to date a trans woman.
08:25:03.980
Okay, your whole argument was, well, what if the trans...
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You're having a really good conversation with this transgender woman and you thought she
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was beautiful and this is a great person and, like, if it wasn't for the penis, you would
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probably marry this person and have kids with them.
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But you find out they have a cock and then that's the disqualification...
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Wouldn't it be your position that a transgender woman is a woman, even if she hasn't done
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If it's on her birth certificate and it says female, it has that letter F, then she is
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I don't care what kind of woke bullshit the government is doing.
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If I cut off your arm, are you less of a human?
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If I cut off both your arms, are you still a human?
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What if you lose all your arms, your legs, and your torso, and all you have left is a head,
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I mean, if my brain is still working and I can, like, talk...
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I think that it is incredibly, like, inconsiderate if you are just going to disregard one...
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Like, I'm not even going to bring up race because that's a different topic.
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If all of you were gone except your head, would you still be a female?
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I mean, if they take my hair off, by my facial structure, by my lips.
08:27:51.460
Lucy, is it okay to beat up somebody because they're a bigot?
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I don't think anyone should enact violence on anybody.
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Like, for example, what if somebody's ideology you determine is so repugnant it warrants violence?
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Like, for example, do you think Nazis should be, like, punched in the face?
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Maybe it's some kind of rehabilitation therapy that they can go through to not become bigoted.
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You don't hold this position, but there's two women at this panel that hold that it's wrong, wrong,
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for a man to refuse to date a transgender woman because she's trans, right?
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That is literally an attack on heterosexuality.
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And as somebody who's straight and who's a heterosexual, yeah, that is concerning when there's going to be groups of people who are going to try to...
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Maybe they won't try violence, but they're going to try to cancel you because you refuse to date somebody with a penis.
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And why we're combating against what I view as, like, radical extremism, and essentially your, like, your cohort of people is trying to say you're wrong, you're a bigot if you refuse to have sex with somebody who has a penis.
08:29:17.260
I'm not saying that's your position, and I don't think that's most, like, trans activist position, but there are some who, like, move forward this position,
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and I think it's, like, incredibly, can be, like, incredibly potentially risky if we start telling, like, swaths of, like, liberal progressives that, oh, you should go cancel this person.
08:29:39.740
You should try to ruin their career, or you should try to actually do physical violence to them.
08:29:43.760
I don't think that's the right answer, of course.
08:29:45.920
Right, but, like, you were about to say, you were saying it's transphobic to say that a transgender woman is not a woman.
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One step beyond that is it's wrong to not date a trans woman because she's trans.
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I know that's not your position, but that's going to be, like, look at how much the Overton window has shifted.
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That could be the very next cascading effect of, like, the way this is going.
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You're a bigot as a man, and it warrants cancellation, a ruining of your career, or even physical violence if you won't fuck a woman with a cock.
08:30:22.240
Well, I just don't think that should be the way.
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But I am curious to why you think that trans people exist.
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I don't think that it's the intention of most trans people to deceive.
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I think that they want to be viewed as the gender that they believe that they are,
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and I think that that's maybe why some of them are still, like, those who identify as straight, why they try to pursue a straight relationship.
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Do I think that they should be upfront about that?
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Do I think that it makes them any less straight?
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But do I think that I understand why you might think that way?
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Because your opinion is that you don't even view them as women in the first place.
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So it's like, you know, these people, they really, they just want to be seen and heard for who they are.
08:31:15.000
And so that's just what I'm trying to affirm for them is, like, if you, if this person really strongly believes,
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and they're willing to go through all of this, like, this, not violence, but this verbal, I guess, kind of discourse.
08:31:29.200
I don't know if I would even call it abuse, but, like, just verbal discourse.
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Constantly being told every day that you are not valid for who you are.
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Like, that just, it just sucks to have to be in that position.
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I don't think that anybody should be, should be condemned for their opinion because you have every right to your opinion.
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But I do think that my opinion will not change based on what you have said today.
08:31:48.580
Should children be able to get, take puberty blockers?
08:31:53.120
I think that, well, actually, it's, it's such a tough call.
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I think that there is, there definitely are instances of people that have detransitioned.
08:32:06.520
Do you know how many trans people exist in the United States?
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So it's like, and, and out of that 1%, the amount of people that transition under age is like, like, zero point.
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I mean, like, fully transition, like hormone blockers surgery.
08:32:27.380
Yes, I knew several people in high school and middle school that took hormone blockers and got top surgery before they were 18.
08:32:38.180
Have you ever slept with a trans person with bottom surgery?
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I don't know a lot of trans people personally, but it doesn't mean I can, I can deny their right to existence.
08:32:49.680
But you would sleep with one that had bottom surgery?
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Well, I'm in a unique situation because I like both male and female genitals.
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But even then, there's a distinction between somebody who has a removed penis and then one of the colon surgeries.
08:33:12.620
They pull the colon down towards this wound, which is created.
08:33:17.760
I mean, I don't know if you're familiar with lesbian sex, but there is something that is used that is not part of the body.
08:33:24.340
I don't think a straight man knows about lesbian sex.
08:33:26.620
Well, no, but that's what I'm trying to say is like there are, there's always instances that are going to be, I mean, you've never used toys in the bedroom with your wife.
08:33:31.520
Like there's always something that comes in that is not like built into us.
08:33:37.280
You using a vibrator on your wife and someone using a, you know, something that came in.
08:33:42.960
But you know, you kind of see where I'm coming from.
08:33:45.220
Yeah, but this aside, do you realize that there's a distinction between that and a removed penis with a gaping wound where they pull the colon down?
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I don't know, maybe we have a sensation here and there.
08:34:06.840
Yes, again, share one living a false existence by living in this delusion that she must play along with the woke mind virus instead of accepting the true reality that exists.
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It is almost 2 a.m. and Mizzy requires slop to eat.
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If you have to make create loops to make the logic work, you're not making truth.
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I'm not sure if anybody, somebody actually, I think, said no on this one.
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That was, everybody's saying yes, it looks like.
08:36:37.080
Well, you guys are not going to be able to weasel out of this one, I suppose.
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It was, can people be racist towards white people, to which, Lucy, you say no?
08:37:13.440
Um, can people be, yeah, can people be racist towards white people?
08:37:17.000
Uh, so you can't be racist towards white people, can't be racist towards white people, like, really quick.
08:37:22.460
I mean, you, I mean, as a black woman, you really can't, because I'm not going to lie.
08:37:27.880
Like, our community, we have, we have been enslaved.
08:37:36.160
I mean, you can say that, but you guys stole, like, not you guys, your ancestors stole land and everything of that nature.
08:37:44.400
Well, I mean, but by you guys, like, you also were never a slave.
08:37:53.100
Well, I, I think, to me, racism is, like, being hateful against, like, a one, one, uh, another person's race or the color of, yeah, another person's race.
08:38:06.180
Meaning, like, so a black person can't do that to a white person?
08:38:09.220
No, because white people have not been systemically prejudiced against in a harmful way.
08:38:13.520
The question isn't saying that white people are oppressed.
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It's saying, can white people, can you be racist to a white person?
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You can, you can be, my definition of racism is systemic and harmful false claims about a group of people based on their race.
08:38:32.180
Um, so you don't believe it, like, on individual level racism?
08:38:40.500
If a white person walks up to a black person and uses a slur against them, you'd agree that this is racist, right?
08:38:46.360
Right, but there's, like, there's not a component of systemic, like, between them two, there's not really a component of systemic.
08:39:00.220
In the, in the U.S., in the U.S. specifically, I think that, like, you know, you can go up and you can say the N-word to a black person and that is racist because that word has connotations to it that were extremely harmful.
08:39:09.040
There's no, there's no equivalent of that word you could say to white people that would make them feel that same type of way of that actual genuine.
08:39:14.900
You can discriminate against a white person, but you cannot be racist towards them.
08:39:21.200
If it's because of their race, then it's racist.
08:39:35.780
You could be racist, but you guys, you have to understand that your, that your ancestors literally...
08:39:42.740
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
08:39:43.440
You have to understand that your ancestors literally dug, um, sold, sold our ancestors, and I'm not saying that your ancestors were the only white people can be...
08:39:50.680
I'm not saying that your ancestors were the only white people can be...
08:39:53.300
I'm not saying that your ancestors were the only white people can be racist.
08:39:56.080
Yeah, there was slavery, slavery, bad, slavery, racist.
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I understand what you're saying, and I agree with that.
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I can't believe you married a man who sold your ancestors into slavery.
08:40:05.540
You think the Polish weren't involved in the slave trade?
08:40:12.260
He told me his history, so, you know, I believe him, because he...
08:40:18.900
He didn't have a single cousin in the slave trade?
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He's from, like, a small town, so I don't even know.
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You think that small town people weren't involved in the slave trade?
08:40:32.020
I mean, I wish I would know his history, but I'm just saying.
08:40:36.520
Black people can't be racist towards white people.
08:40:39.760
Or was it just people can't be racist towards white people?
08:40:49.980
Well, I agree with you, and basically, I agree with Lucy.
08:40:53.040
It's just a systematic, um, point of view of directing hateful harm towards another race.
08:41:07.420
What can you say that's actually harmful and an incorrect stereotype about a white person?
08:41:20.280
I'm talking about, like, treating people differently because...
08:41:51.160
Not as bad on YouTube as it is on Twitch, by the way.
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When my mods went over the words, that wasn't one of them.
08:42:05.120
I literally have just said it three times, but okay.
08:42:17.100
If you can be black and have harmful stereotypes towards whites.
08:42:38.420
I mean, there's racist people, but, like, there's racist white people that still exist,
08:42:48.980
But, like, how are white people hurt genuinely?
08:42:54.880
So, if you're not oppressed, then you're not...
08:43:09.300
...that you are saying something rude to a person because of their race?
08:43:12.460
It doesn't matter what the race is if you say something to a person...
08:43:28.240
But black people are mainly the ones that are...
08:44:08.260
Because you guys are super racist and she's white.
08:44:10.440
No, because you're literally so fucking racist.
08:44:12.220
I'm also a white person, but I can understand that there's nothing that someone can say to me to make me feel bad about my race.
08:44:18.840
But let's all just stay calm and, like, have a discussion.
08:44:22.440
You don't know what it's like to be a black person.
08:44:24.600
I don't know what it's like to be a white person.
08:44:36.000
No matter what, as a black person, we are always the target for everything.
08:44:42.180
Yeah, what about those Asian people in San Francisco?
08:44:44.860
When's the last time you got followed around in a supermarket?
08:44:47.180
Because I thought you were going to steal something.
08:44:52.220
When's the last time they had to worry about me stealing something?
08:44:54.320
You're stealing everyone's hearts in the audience.
08:45:12.700
If I have to repeat it one more time, I'm going to have to...
08:45:21.140
So, what she's saying is, you can't actually conduct a harmful stereotype absent power.
08:45:27.480
And since minorities don't have power, there's no harmful stereotype they can give towards whites.
08:45:35.660
I'll give my example here, then I'll move it on to the next topic.
08:45:41.080
And that's why I really appreciate our conversations.
08:45:42.580
But you don't ever listen to a fucking word I say.
08:45:49.500
I'm going to write down everything he says, I can remember.
08:45:54.080
I'm going to start with you, Elle, then I'll ask you this exact same one.
08:46:12.300
And Barack Obama refuses to hire a specific janitor because this janitor happens to be white.
08:46:20.140
And Barack Obama holds, I'll just even go a step further, holds negative stereotypes against white people.
08:46:39.140
I just met all three criteria of your own definition.
08:46:46.340
So, I didn't specify, but I did say that he holds negative stereotypes against white people.
08:47:03.520
Would it be racist to say that a white person to say that they think a minority group is lazy?
08:47:10.640
But isn't that what they always feel at the time?
08:47:23.920
So, if a white man thinks all black people are lazy, is that racist?
08:47:35.020
Yes, but does he just think that the janitor is lazy?
08:47:40.220
You literally refuse to just be, like, good faith.
08:47:43.900
Yeah, but you're talking about he's being lazy.
08:47:46.560
We're talking about, like, actual racism, racism.
08:47:52.320
Because being lazy is not the same thing as being, like, stereotyped as violent or as
08:48:01.200
Because there are a lot of white, there are some, I'm not going to say a lot of white
08:48:06.260
people, but there are some white people that believe that black people are criminals.
08:48:12.200
So, again, I've met your definition with this hypothetical.
08:48:23.840
I was, if you don't agree with the stereotype, you tell me what's a negative stereotype.
08:48:28.020
And in the hypothetical, I will insert that he believes that this negative stereotype against
08:48:33.760
There was no systemic abuse against white people, though, in general.
08:48:39.080
Now you're, this is like, you're shifting the goalposts.
08:48:46.260
No, you were talking about Obama not hiring a white man because he's lazy and that's,
08:48:51.600
So you don't think there's any negative stereotypes that pertain to white people?
08:48:54.460
That is discrimination, but I wouldn't call it racism.
08:48:57.300
If you, if you guys want to think I'm wrong, that's so fine.
08:49:04.300
You guys are really upsetting with your racism against white people, by the way.
08:49:16.320
Are you going to keep asking me until I agree with you?
08:49:18.320
Well, you guys are refusing to engage with the hypothetical, so yes.
08:49:21.760
Because the hypothetical is not a good, it's not a logical, it's not a logical hypothetical.
08:49:34.640
Let's just say Obama, he hires a white man that has a criminal background, right?
08:49:41.560
Because he did, he's done something very, very violent.
08:49:47.740
Let me, let me find something better because I feel like.
08:49:51.060
Yeah, but that's not a, that's not a good example, bro.
08:49:52.580
Okay, here, let me walk you through it then to make it really simple.
08:50:26.500
I'm, I'm talking, I'm talking about Obama because I thought that somebody, I had heard,
08:50:36.760
I had heard that he was half, like, Hawaiian and half black.
08:50:41.880
But that, I don't know much about Obama, so I can't really speak about him on his, on
08:50:50.620
What do you gain from proving that you can be racist towards white people?
08:51:13.840
Is the President of the United States, does he have systemic power?
08:51:24.440
Because the executive branch in which he is in charge of is a system, and the executive
08:51:30.860
branch of the United States government has power, and he's the leader of the most powerful
08:51:38.700
We've just established Barack Obama has systemic power.
08:51:44.520
He refuses to hire somebody because he's white.
08:51:58.100
If you don't hire somebody based on their skin color, isn't that harmful?
08:52:02.580
Guys, you are making her very upset back there with your anti-white racism.
08:52:13.620
We should all be able to have a conversation without having a full-on, like...
08:52:16.560
Look, I'm holding back tears over how racist both of you are.
08:52:24.320
I just got to know, earlier in the syphilis conversation, that wasn't dramatic.
08:52:31.400
But the second there's a disagreement, you've betrayed the sisterhood, right?
08:52:43.340
I came back when it was the end of it, and I was...
08:52:46.820
So, what I'm saying is that if she had a negating opinion, then the hugs and kisses go away.
08:52:54.920
I just don't think you should have to leave the room.
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The idea that racism is defined as being prejudice plus institutional power was first created in 1970 by race hustler Patricia Beidel Padva.
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Massive, massive W there from Graffito Tagged, just BTF-ing you, all of you.
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And then we have Dave Vaughn coming in here in just a moment.
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Would it upset you if someone assumed you were a racist bigot because you are white?
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Racism is literally prejudice based on skin color, whether by an individual or institution.
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I would understand why someone might assume that sort of thing because historically white people have been the most racist towards other races.
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Would I go on like an angry tangent because someone called me a racist?
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No, I would call me, explain that that's not the situation.
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Do you think like American whites are more racist than like Japanese people?
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I haven't, I don't know, I don't know any, I don't know any Japanese people, but I'm, you know, it's really funny about the conversation ultimately.
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It is funny is that we're being charitable to your definition.
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And trying to explore your definition, trying to make arguments as refutations to what you define racism as, trying to literally stay inside your worldview as we argue, right?
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Racism is just, I don't like a person based on their skin color.
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Based on that definition, if you're being charitable in my worldview, can black people be racist?
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Since we've been sitting here being super charitable to your worldview, to everything you had to say, within the confines of your worldview, contending with only that, with your definition, can you contend with ours?
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All racism is, is not liking somebody based on their skin color or treating them differently based on their skin color.
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Using that definition, can white people be, or can black people be racist to white people?
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Look, I'm going to stand by my stance on no, because at the end of the day, like, you guys had, not you guys, I'm so sorry, I'm saying you guys, which your ancestors-
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Do you think, like, an Asian person can be, like, racist to a white person?
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I'm sure you do, which is, like, really, really upsetting.
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Jan's Atlantic slave trade is always talked about, not Africans enslaving Africans.
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I mean, weren't you guys called indentured slaves to your own people in Britain?
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From your worldview, I can understand why you might think that.
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Can you stop finger banging her over there, please?
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Right now, you would agree in some South African territories, blacks have institutional power
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and are running white farmers off their land, yeah?
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Chair one, whatever interest street and trailer park, white trash place, did your hippie-dippie
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I know Chair five knows kuma-billies with more sense.
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Yeah, I was just wondering, is that institutional power?
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These black governments that are running white farmers off their land, was that institutional
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I mean, like, you could, like, it's from a historical-
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Okay, but was it harmful for your ancestors to take my ancestors from their own motherland?
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Can you, first of all, can you demonstrate any of my ancestors did that?
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Because I'm just, you're, you are, aren't you white?
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Originally, all Americans have Western or Eastern European roots.
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Why does that mean they had a hand in the slave trade?
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I would recommend doing, like, a little DNA test to see if you had any, like, slave,
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I just, I just want you, I just want you to help me out with this.
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Even if it was true, right, that the people group I come from was totally responsible
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for African slavery, 100%, what the fuck does that have to do with my ancestry being responsible
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Well, you are responsible for changing the way that how racism is viewed.
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You have the power to sit here and to advocate for, you know, us as black women.
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Yeah, but what if I don't believe, what if, what if what's going on here is, I don't understand
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the logical consistency of saying racism is power plus prejudice, and then I give you
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That wasn't the definition that we gave, that was the definition that Brian gave.
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You gave it an additional qualifier, and the qualifier was stereotypes and harm, okay?
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I gave you a nation which white farmers being run off their land, the institutional powers
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with blacks, it's clearly harmful, clearly harmful to the whites to get run off their
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farms and clearly stereotypical that they need to be.
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This fits every single criteria you both agreed to for racism.
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You could have been an advocate back in the time when-
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They're getting run off their properties by black governments.
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And the black governments are stereotyping them as being evil because they're white.
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And what about the police taking black men off the streets?
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Doing dang and putting guns into our community.
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Do you know that there are still sundown towns?
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Do you know what the United States is and do you know what the country of Africa is?
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Is the United States a different country than Africa?
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I don't know, Andrew, if she can't name, if she thinks Canada and Russia-
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I don't know if she has the requisite geographic understanding.
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So Canada is not a continent and Russia is not a continent?
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I'm going to name the countries in Africa, actually.
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60% of all violent crimes are committed by a race that makes up 13% of the population.
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But yes, their population is the one not to be afraid of.
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The views expressed by the TTSs do not necessarily reflect the views of the-
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That reflect the views of the whatever channel.
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BigSassEnergy, though, I do appreciate your TTS.
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How do these echo chamber-hoes feel about the Arab slave trade that persists even today?
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Open-air slave markets in Libya forced to mine cobalt for pinkies, Tesla, and iPhone.
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Like, can somebody who attacks a white person because they're white, can they be charged with a hate crime or not?
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It's a hate crime based on the fact that you just don't like them.
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Yo, Naomi and Riley, you guys said, so the question is, wrong for a man to refuse to date a woman because she is overweight.
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So if a guy refuses to have sex with you, it's wrong?
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And, like, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, like, it's wrong.
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Like, it cannot be, like, you can't be, like, oh, because you're fat.
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Why doesn't she change it and then you date her?
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When you are looking for a woman, do you look for her body first or her personality?
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I mean, you think you made a good point here, but just think about it for two seconds, okay?
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When you see a hot guy, do you notice that he's hot first or do you notice his personality first?
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If you see a good-looking guy, like, here, a good example.
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Earlier, who was the picture of that 18-year-old who married the, like...
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When those pictures came up, you were like, yeah, he's good-looking.
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You can roll back the clip and see my face look disgusted because I didn't like...
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Let's assume it was some guy who's not him, but you did find attractive.
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Like, for instance, if I showed you pictures of men, could you tell me, that man's attractive,
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If that is the case, how can you possibly determine that without knowing their personality?
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Let's just say I dated someone who was six, five, and overweight, let's just say.
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Well, the point is, is that if you can see a picture of a guy, and you can see he's attractive,
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Everyone that knows me knows that I don't go for the looks.
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I'm not saying that that might be what you end up with.
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But the point is, is that the first thing people notice about another person is if they're attractive
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If a person is not attractive to you, why would you date them?
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I'm answering your question with I have, meaning yes.
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Okay, but like, going forward, if the guy had a micro-penis, would you date...
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Okay, so you don't care about anything when it comes to looks whatsoever?
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Because what I find attractive isn't what other people are going to find attractive, so...
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Now, I know that a decade is a lot longer than a year and a half with your fianc...
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Yes, I've been married for most of my adult life, yes.
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Women have laundry lists of things that they care for in a man when it comes to personality.
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And when it comes to looks, I don't see how it's wrong for a man to refuse to date somebody.
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Like, you guys won't date a guy because of his height, which you guys both admitted.
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I'm just not dating someone that's shorter than me.
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Are men the primary victims of war to which, Naomi, you said no?
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I think you're the only one who said no on that.
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But I only said no because I didn't really understand, like, the question.
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Like, you mean, like, war, like, really fighting out...
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Black lady, your African ancestors, blacks, racists against African Americans, since they
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were the ones who originally sold your ancestors to the ships that brought them to the other
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Moving off of the primary victims of war, just a few more.
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I'm not going to do all of them just for the sake of time.
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Let's just do the feminist stuff, and then we'll wrap it there.
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The question is, do women have equal rights to men in the United States, to which, Lucy,
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you put both, which I guess would indicate a maybe, or...
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You said, no, women do not have equal rights to men in the United States.
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McKenna, you said, yes, they do have equal rights.
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Elle, you said, no, they do not have equal rights.
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So those of you who said no, or maybe, I guess, how so?
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Yeah, just like, we can't do certain things that, like, men can do,
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and it causes us to, like, you know, not be able to do some things.
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Do you want to give, like, your quick position on this
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some sort of, like, state-down, government-down?
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And also on abortion, men can't have them either.
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Pretend Barbie should not come into the rest of the country in South Africa.
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Pretend Barbie should not comment on racism in South Africa.
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If Cape Town is now a country, then I now might as well identify as black.
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All right, by the way, guys, we're going to do the roast session.
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If you want to get a roast in, roast is a $20 TTS.
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If you guys want to get it in, $20 TTS, starting here in just a sec.
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Do you really don't think that black people in Africa can be racist?
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Oh, there's some roasting that's going to happen.
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TTS roast session is set to $20 if you want to get it in.
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While the girls are doing that, every single one of you, who's willing to take off their
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No, I honestly kind of came off me sweating on this fucking podcast on my face.
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Because this makeup is too cute, and I'm a Barbie doll, so I can't do any of that.
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Oh, can I have the $2 bill first, and then I have it?
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My last second thought was not the throwing of the makeup wipes, Brian.
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I took it for a moment, and then I was like, it was funny, and then you guys saw it.
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I will say, I don't normally do my eyeliner and lashes.
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All right, guys, I'm going to let the chats come in, but before we do, can you guys hold
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Starting on this side, hold up the makeup wipes.
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Okay, and then over here, we have quite a bit, quite a bit, quite a bit.
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I've been trying so hard to scrub these brows off.
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You could have gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for those.
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Saying you can't be racist to a certain group is literally racist.
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It opens up the floodgates to attack that group and discriminate on them because of their
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Jessix really tried to speak with authority about racism, but couldn't even name three countries
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Brian, Aldi Marinara sauce jars are notoriously known to be difficult to open.
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This is the guy who wanted to do the pickle thing.
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Get some of those on the show and watch them struggle.
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The sound of the plop that my morning turd made hitting the water in my oilet bowl was
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Chess 7 and 8 are perfect example that their father figures failed them.
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You should so forking ashamed instead of laughing and giggling on here looking stupid.
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Andrew, ask these women the breakfast question.
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How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
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How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
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How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
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How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
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How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
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How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
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raise your hand if you said you didn't eat breakfast wait uh do you have was that face
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tattoo visible when no it wasn't no it was covered let me see did you huh what did you do
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is it a tree no wait i need to see it and i'll know this is a tattoo i got oh okay after you
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i got this tattoo like you murdered somebody no it's just like a drunk like dumb tattoo it's not
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a teardrop you guys it's japanese for what it's crazy in japanese no crazy
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yeah labia manga donated twenty dollars for the entire 20th century the dictionary definition
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of racism was the belief in the genetic superiority of one race over another thus any member of any
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race can be racist lucy has great hair thank you joe xd donated twenty dollars w brian w andrew as
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someone with family from south africa it's pretty disheartening to see a privileged girl in america
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refuse to call the murder of my uncle by government sponsored thugs racist yeah but you have to
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understand that stuff happened to her daniel nostri donated twenty dollars one couldn't imagine a
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better potential destiny future ex-wife than chair one seeing as she is vegan and hates the taste of
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drusky but extra props to brian for opening his platform to andrew and the crucible to the women
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through uh booty banana bean cheeks just tuned in from columbia thank you and let me tell you
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just watching these last few minutes fellas women here will appreciate with more than these entitled
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that was very interesting racist homophobe virgin donated twenty dollars middle-aged virgin loses his
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the girls probably i don't know if the girls agree with that one but uh yeah i'd fail to see how
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anything said tonight is homophobic in any capacity or even transphobic for that manner you know i wish
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yo thank you man for the uh message dariel underscore frank castle 512 donated twenty dollars
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chair six is a troll she couldn't comprehend the hypothetical of the mask when every night
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she gets home and takes off that thick mask of makeup and looks completely different look up her tick
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yo chaley thank you for the message man do appreciate it
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blue state brian why do you like to put yourself in a situation where you're around a bunch of
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morons who make you lose brain cells not andrew
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thank you thank you if you ever had children and moved into the woods you might see the elf in chair
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three i can't assume she's a wood elf because it's offensive to assume what kind of elf she
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identified that's a good point she could she could be a mountain elf
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jackson donated twenty dollars yay makeup was doing a lot of heavy lifting today it was doing a lot of
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heavy lifting i spent like two hours on my makeup okay a lot of heavy lifting a lot of heavy lifting
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i think i look the same otis strutwood donated twenty dollars nigeria and ethiopia 99.98 and 99.93 black
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population in charge of everything does racism exist here against who wow crucible crew
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i ain't answering that no okay wait that really quick isn't there a country in africa where if
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you're like albino they'll target you that's colorism but okay all right okay i'm not gonna
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it's wigism baby you keep talking about my hair well wait what do you mean your hair wait wait hold
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on i i do want to stop on this for a sec bro you've got a tick tock where you wear wigs
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yes like cut the fucking bullshit i do wear wigs no that's not a wig though but i can tell look at
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the back she has a little bit she got a little bit you are out of your fucking mind look you can see
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her natural curl right there look at that i know what natural hair looks like okay i have friends
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hair done girl pull your roots right now yeah no i didn't know cough up
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but no i don't have what the what you because i know i want to split will you split the i'm not
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no because first of the money yeah i'll split the money first and you want a hundred bucks
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first and foremost it's my hair and regardless of the situation even if it's fake or not that's
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not your decision whether how much of it is not your decision how much it is not your decision
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nor you're you're like i guess you're uh uh how do i say this it's not like your decision whether or
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not i'm going to wear wigs or not because it's still my hair regardless regardless i my guys go to
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twitch.tv my wigs cost up to two hundred dollars right now i literally looked i know for sure that
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i'll be your hair it's not possible okay so you don't think black women can't grow hair that's not
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what i said get us to 98 000 did i say anything like that 70 more no so here's the thing i just
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want to make sure that i get this right that i owe her 200 because that's all your hair right all of
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it none of it's a wig right you owe her 200 so if we pull up right now all right your tick tock we're
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gonna not see clearly 100 that that is impossible to be all your hair it's it's styled my hair is styled
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right now that's what i was trying to say is their hair which is there which is not my hair
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straight in your face does that make it fake that's not what i said i do have extensions she has extensions
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but it's not a wig it's still her hair though it's still her hair though
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why are you coming at me by my hair oh do i have to repeat another tts or do you guys want to get
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out of here come on guys and it's a complete and utter cloud chaser and the rest only give answers
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that stay trendy and won't get them hate oh i get plenty of hate yo pg pgv thank you for the message
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man do appreciate it jk donated twenty dollars alternative barbie i hear cake cod is great this
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one and two you don't need makeup thank you oh wait donated 19.99 to chair six if you're feeling
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unattractive consider buying a wig it's a look that anyone can pull off i wear wigs i was a wig
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influencer love crime or bro donated twenty dollars hair hat hooligan in chair six for someone who has
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so much to say about white folks you try your best to emulate their looks what's up with the hair hat
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though why not your natural hair i'm a barbie doll mr toasty donated twenty dollars is it just me or
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does chair four look one quadrillion point zero zero better without all the gothic makeup it's just
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you bro say it again beaten cheeks donated twenty five dollars jessex crying racism let's speak about
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racial appropriation take off that white girl wigs a white man's invention called makeup and let's see
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them prickles on top of your head girl here the electro donated twenty dollars andrew do you want
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to fit in a ping question what's a png question i don't know i don't know i'm not sure you send another
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one clarify there's a few more coming through justin martin's donated twenty dollars i literally cannot
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think of a better roast than just letting chair one and six share their ideologies
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right now daryl underscore frank castle five hundred and twelve donated twenty dollars look how quick
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all those tens turned in twos andrew no debate please she's dumb as a rock i think those drones are out
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here trying to adopt these three hundred and fours brian take them to the room new jersey's having a rough
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time right now jake donated twenty one dollars thank you jake andrew i missed you last show but would
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you debate chat gpt it could smoke you that would be chat chat gpt damn actually i i really could i know
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the e well daniel nostri donated twenty dollars one moment you're a sweet little innocent asian chick
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the next to your friend is teaching you how to stick things up your butt
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no comment yeah that's exactly how it is thor you did send in a message but it's unfortunately against
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tos but um he made a joke i can't even say sorry i can't thor i can't i can't uh i can't do it man
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thank you though for the message they donated twenty dollars chair force so based she couldn't
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listen to the steaming pile of poop chair one and six were spewing even if she's a syphilitic pegasus
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interesting is this a gay male dating show this is a gay uh kitten bear donated twenty dollars
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according to some degen math and chat gpt chair five has taken seven miles of penetration up the
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in turn screen this clip dot brian not able to find the love ladies reaction
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the fuck do you need hey george donated twenty dollars chair three please remove your wig
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we want to see your natural hair do it do not be afraid we want to see here we go here we go let's
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do it let's go wait if i give you a two dollar bill do you know how much that's worth that's my
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two dollar bill i have another two dollar bill oh i'll give you a two dollar bill
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and spend it on a good dentist priorities are pretty skewed
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you're lost but now you'll have yeah thank you rad appreciate it man you have two two dollar bills
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i love the number a non-donated twenty dollars you gotta do it seat one comma four and five
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looks significantly better without makeup yeah six clearly has like 80 it can pointless to argue
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with calls canada a continent ha ha ha some of the most ill-thought arguments ever seen
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selena underscore gone is donated twenty dollars most men prefer a woman with little or no makeup
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ladies quit wasting new time and money on something that only makes you less attractive in the end
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your xd donated twenty dollars get in your crystals lips get the crystals yeah yeah so three three
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two dollar bills wigs off here we go the rest of the show and you have to do it right now it's more
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it's worth more than six bucks though it is the two dollar bill is crazy how much women talk about
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insecure men yet almost all women never leave the house without a mask a day a lot of women have
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plastic surgery okay she's not gonna do it you said that you loved the number two and if there's
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two you would do that six in your world you barbie you're an eight standing up just like you barbie
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i just vomited a bit hey otis yo what's up otis this guy's a legend in world of war crimes by the
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left donated twenty dollars i'd marry up number two or three just as long as chair three stays off
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off yeah oh love you uh we have a few more coming through big atlas donated twenty dollars
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jessic suivo if what you bring to the table is that you are a barbie does that include that you
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wear accessories which are interchangeable such as your hair yes garius godfrey donated twenty dollars
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yeah thank you gary i go to bed whatever is still on i wake up whatever is still on i'm starting to
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think whatever is for the masochists gg to panel w whatever w crucible crew w crucible crew chaley donated
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twenty dollars i have the pink-haired chicks back all day she actually has a brain and a heart
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good job for sticking up for what you believe against the rest of these imbeciles who call
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themselves women thank you joe underscore mcdonald donated twenty dollars unfortunately feminism my
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snt going away anytime soon and the birth rate crisis will only get worse yeah thankfully the magnetic
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pole reversal event will take place within our lifetime
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okay how many more never heard of that there's like a few more that are coming
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uh one sec guys uh almost done acidic touch donated twenty dollars life is mizzy w for the girls who took
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off their makeup hi brian and andrew first donation to the show love what you guys do
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life is mizzy yeah kitten bear donated twenty dollars chair three laughs like a literal anime
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character please don't start enough and shove the whole world up your butts like chair
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that's a talent brian don't eat peach donated twenty dollars brian you really can't defend this clip
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i need the ladies to give a hot take on brian's lack of female anatomy dot ladies discuss uh yeah i
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know the clip you're referencing uh we don't do media reacts i mean you'd have to send in like crypto for
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that uh but we don't do media reacts it's especially not for roast in any case um this this clip
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is claiming that i don't know how to locate the clitoris it's uh what's that what did you say
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what is that what's that it's the clitoris the clitoris the clitoris my dear chip chip cherry oh
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yeah in any case i think people flip a do in any case this clip though it's like from a show i did
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like two years ago and like i'm talking about the the angle here and i think people who watch the clip
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misunderstand what i'm talking about it's like if the girl's on top like the angle in which you
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probably it's kind of degen but not degen but it's like the angle that you gotta rub the clip she's on top
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what and people didn't understand like whatever whatever whatever there you go there's your
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there's your response you you hater you okay sex is icky k-pop underscore manager donated 20
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ladies i commend you for coming on this show knowing full well that daddy wilson is going to open up
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can of whoop butterfly he's savage but there's logic don't tee it personal sixth seat please
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i'm worried for you that's true none of it's personal the underscore doctor donated twenty
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dollars jessex there are no chic with dicks only men with tits
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you roll around the table then call them the b-word bitches love it when you call them beautiful
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sub submersible honky donated twenty dollars i thought lucy was dumb but jessex made lucy look
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like stephen hawking on a ginkgo by the poor speak i'm sorry queen
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what the fuck yeah paid hot for andrew donated twenty dollars
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jessex there are no chic with dicks only men wait trump is coming jessex get the rocks you
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woo all around the table then call them the b-word bitches love it when you call them beautiful
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maybe i had like an actual one yeah do an uwu okay i have to compose myself
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no you don't oh okay thank you for the reference uwu whoa that was disappointing do it
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she does laugh like an anime character here we go
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is that like good or is that bad yeah i think it's easier let's hear the uwu
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i already did it i already did it so i already got all the embarrassment
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i don't i don't know what that is i don't know i don't know what that is yeah
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what the fuck was that and wore black because he was coming to a funeral
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what the heck remember folks elf ears equals freak what the
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fuck why is it not showing up on the screen do you put the strap in the dishwasher
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yeah it would melt what the fuck no mazy tell them about the polycue you are involved in what
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oh i'm not in that that's not my that's not my discord and sam hyde oh i'm not frank has a
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daryl underscore frank castle 512 donated 20 dollars chair four don't worry about what your bf makes
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just make sure he has a job with health benefits for the next testy deacon you imagine going on a
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date with chair three she's gonna go broke on earth boring we'll go on a date it's okay
09:51:13.520
donated 20. treat you right baby girl ladies what colors would you like your crystals to be
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i need an answer from all of you hashtag crew crew
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crew crew sorry sorry guys clip it borat donated 19.99 my gf called me a sex machine this morning
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well if we want to get all technical her exact words were a fucking tool but i think it's the same
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jack underscore and donated 20 dollars number four you're a good person and a great sport about all
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of this but i'm curious did the dude rub his junk all over you for that to get everywhere
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scythe can only spread by direct contact i was on birth control agent donated 19.99
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chair one is ashley judd and chair six is a socialist stacy dash knockoff oh thank you ladies we are
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making america great again tighten up your act and get straight we won't tolerate this behavior anymore
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uh-oh thank you big atlas donated twenty dollars also burrito bro brian how are you a blm advocate
09:52:24.400
but won't partake in takeout wanna square that one for us are you a filthy watcher i don't understand
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that one yeah i was gonna say acidic touch donated twenty dollars i also want to say that pink dress
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girl and girl next to the left mizzy made me lose brain cells he's saying why you always watching roast
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beef but not eating it i miss it too i don't do that because i'm a gentleman
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like cream pies it let her drag her flowers across the floor and act like she was
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gross though andrew always happy to see you twenty dollars glad to see my girl lucy back
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i wait i swear i stopped it i don't know why it just is going now is it gonna stop okay sorry let me
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if i can put on one of those wigs i'll take mine off
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which ones like the colorful ones okay deal take yours off no not deal wow she can't mess with
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those wigs but i have a spare what about that one wait no that's a bad that's a bad deal
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why and also yes i did have a loving father growing up same what's the point of her taking
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it off and putting a different wig on it's just because you would see the transformation it's like
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a fun little moment change why is the tts not coming in okay we just have to see it without the
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transformation first but i like wanted to try what if you take it off and then put it back on
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i like do that for it's like a transformation earlier
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i don't know why the oh i want to put on that wig what's your name be obese so they call you bob
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so they're calling you you know that i'm known for the bob
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what the frick it like switched over to the tts monster and then it stopped letting the tts come
09:54:39.520
through that's weird hold on let me see what's going on oh my god life is mizzy
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you say it's almost three in the morning yeah that means it's six o'clock my time
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i hope someone uh chat i'm not sure what happened to the tts but it's no longer working
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chat we're cooked chat are we cooked they're pretty cooked is it the angle
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which alerts that's weird uh boys i don't know why the tts all of a sudden stopped working that's
09:55:24.000
really weird um let me see what that could potentially be guys uh while i'm trying to get
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this figured out i don't know if i will uh any final thoughts from anybody before we wrap the show
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it was wonderful meeting you all beautiful people um thank you for this debate andrew i really
09:55:42.720
love that i know we had a debate when did that happen i know why
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kid and bear donated twenty dollars thanks brixton sneaky china one child policy less girls less
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woke days but still less women and excess something something low effort joke women
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dumb me big strong man nooga booga i like big booba
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kid and bear donated twenty what it already came through while while we're waiting on that i'm going
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to read this uh clusterism thank you for the super chat gg panel intransigence is either a skill or
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innate you got it yes much intransigence tonight thank you man lady to donated twenty dollars
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let this fat love missy leave she needs her midnight slop it's way overdue also stop being
09:56:29.120
pussies and make black barbie love take off her makeup it's not fair everyone else did it sorry
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you even came over here to watch me donated twenty dollars thank you man great job on finding all of
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this dilute tonight did you get all of your two dollar bills from the spearmint rhino go to church
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with andrew this week i don't go to strip clubs okay i don't go to strip clubs gmd jim sorry some
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of these got re-triggered because of the uh bread miss thank you for the uh twenty dollars
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super chat chair one did your daddy not teach you to actively listen while men are talking no he did not
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okay clearly tashi uh uh pacific touch donated twenty dollars oh shit this is gonna drain my
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bank account just like fish tank i'm addicted help yo acid thank you for the uh tts man i do
09:57:18.640
appreciate yo tashi brian i love you i am ex stripper and so grateful for you tell these girls pills are
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not their friend ex oh she's an ex stripper and grateful for me well there you go thank you thank you
09:57:30.480
katashi i do appreciate your future ex-wife probably not probably no no no no all right
09:57:36.720
final call guys on the tts's if you want to get them in that is the final call here like i said any
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final thoughts here before we wrap the show before i was interrupted pretty much loved the the um
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discussion and great meeting you guys it was nice to meet you too it was great to meet you and your wig
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wig that doesn't that you're not wearing thank you i will say this panel was really fun the last one
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was a little bit chaotic that i was on and this one was only kind of chaotic and i'm sorry you complained
09:58:10.800
for four hours straight i did not complain for four hours you're still complaining you were like
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i'm exhausted it's almost three in the morning you've been here for 11 hours you're in a club for
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longer than that give me a break yeah right mr basement donated twenty dollars chair one what
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compelled you to come on with your pokies out chair six what compelled your father to fornicate with a
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kitchen appliance to make a toaster brain like you jesus do you want me to actually answer that right
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now a acidic touch donated twenty dollars quick somebody get missing her two a.m slop she's going
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to faint this is urgent life is mizzy we're gonna raid ampi okay sorry guys i'm gonna follow you
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it means life is miserable yeah oh all right uh we're gonna wrap the show here uh here we got
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odysseo thank you donated twenty dollars thank you thank you i will interrupt when i want to
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interrupt not today degenerate not today degenerate all right guys like the video please like the video
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uh we are going to wrap the show there at 10 hours my my goodness i blame it on all of you this is not my
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fault whatsoever uh anyways you invited us all right so i would like to end this show as a
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call to action with a call to action to the sex workers at the table you you you you probably do
09:59:54.720
some weird and then sort of you because it's within six months you're going to be doing like
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gang bangs and shit so um can you would you guys consider tonight on the whatever podcast
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quitting only fans right now i mean if i find a rich man to marry in five minutes yes
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brian's rich i was just gonna say brian brian like just but he likes elves so just really okay
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you can identify as an elf yeah yeah there you go what about you two well you guys you guys are young
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all of you are young you're 20 18 18 you guys are going down a path that's going to lead you
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somewhere not good you guys are still young you can you can back out now and mitigate the damage
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no i'm waiting for after i graduate college i need the money and i don't have time to get a job
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and joke you don't have time to get a job and do school like i do veterinarian school and i'm not the
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smartest cookie i have to study like well maybe you shouldn't become a veterinarian so like well i want to be
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okay thank you yeah but if you're not the smartest cookie don't kill any dogs please okay but like
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that's why you go i'm going to school yeah yeah put that shit on the front of your veterinarian
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clinic and you'll be like not the smartest cookie veterinarian clinic no because then i will be the
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smartest because i i actually applied myself school doesn't make you smart you're smart and you go to
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school school does not make you smart okay but you learn that's how how do you gain knowledge well you
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gain knowledge yeah that's true you learn it's just that school's usually not the best
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place for that well not if you don't apply yourself you guys you guys gonna stop only fans
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no you're gonna stop never you're gonna stop never no i will eventually when i'm old and crusty i will
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all right get a full panel i will in like five years oh just kidding maybe even three okay when i
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graduate pasty george donated twenty dollars old man gamer here i remember the good old days when women
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were traditional and a two-parent household were the normans affordable women then loved compliments and
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dating was not a meal ticket no it still was even then for underscore the underscore patriarchy
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donated twenty dollars is the fact andrew has a black ex-wife make him less racist or more racist
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since she's now the ex yeah good question um didn't think about the black ex-wife before you opened your
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mouth did you do you have a black ex-wife according to the internet i do i want to see the paint proof
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so do i but they haven't shown it to me yet if they haven't shown it to me yet they're not going to
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show it to you either then i can't say something sorry yeah good good times i don't think andrew
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sees color tashi i meant it brian your convo about men giving and not getting was very accurate
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it thank you tashi i appreciate the super chat message guys uh so okay well i tried uh for the
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of people gg hold on gg well played to the panel last call hit the like button please on your way out
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thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me i
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appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats donates and supports the show show excuse me
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we will be live again tuesday at 5 p.m pacific for our final show final show of the year andrew will
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be there we have a big guest it's gonna be a big it's gonna be big okay big guest andrew versus mystery
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guest it's they've been asking for it it's coming tuesday 5 p.m pacific be sure to tune in any girls who
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want to be on the show dm whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara we have this one
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coming in uh i'll let this one come in daryl underscore frank castle 512 donated 20 dollars
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at the rate they're going they'll be single moms before finishing school let the drones take them
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all 18 and can't work an honest day's work showing buttholes for 3.99 ain't it i think your
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OF is free right my OF is free yeah there you go her OF is free 20 dollars 100 for a special 10 hour
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episode have a good night yo acid thank you so much man do appreciate it thank you thank you uh let's
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see where we are we're going to raid ampi he is uh all right guys thank you for watching on twitch
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we're going to raid ampi he is playing world of warcraft hardcore he's doing uh
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uh uh uh yeah i mean like that's kind of like for phase one that's yeah ice mage is bad
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yeah um so anyways uh we're raiding ampi over there on twitch he's playing world of warcraft uh
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classic hardcore we're going to send that raid over right i'm going to let them kill the boss
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actually i'll just send it uh because that could take they're taking a while to kill the boss so
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um they're kiting the boss so okay i'm going to send that over right now guys
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all right let's see what now he's using arcane really he this guy is one of the best player he's
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very very good player very good player i don't even know what the i'm talking about i'm just making
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shit up like yeah used to play mage you used to play mage boom boom oh there it is boom boom yo
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welcome in hope you had a great stream mr whatever oh they got oh that's kind of dog
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shit oh they did get an epic though south park episode of wow boy boy boy boy boy it's dog
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shit so funny uh decent loot just kidding those dog although the tombstone okay whatever all right
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okay okay guys uh you can get out of that uh let me just no okay we're all good on chats no supers
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okay guys oh seven's in the chat good night guys we will see you on tuesday good night guys