Whatever Podcast - Andrew Wilson! DUMPED Because She Did OF？! Men Making $50,000 Should NOT Date？! ｜ Dating Talk #136

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00:03:32.120 ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age

00:03:35.280 location so where you're from and occupation starting with you go ahead so my name's isabella

00:03:40.080 i'm 22 um i've had to move to a bunch of places i don't know where i say i'm from and i get brand

00:03:50.300 deals for influencers as my job where are you currently located um like southern california area okay

00:03:58.180 so for most of your life did you grow up in southern california no um was your uh like

00:04:03.840 family in the military or no oh because you said you moved around a lot when you were young yeah i

00:04:09.160 lived in like egypt canada oh shit okay egypt okay all right you've been uh okay yeah i graduated high 0.79

00:04:19.380 high school in egypt oh cairo yeah sorry about that i've heard okay i shouldn't okay never mind 0.80

00:04:27.100 okay okay okay what about you um i'm des i'm 21 and i live in la um my occupation uh i have like four

00:04:38.380 jobs uh i take care of my grandma i have a nine to five um nick i'm a stripper and i do only fans

00:04:46.700 hi um i'm holly i'm 22 also la and i'm in marketing all right what about you hi i'm sophia i'm 31 i live

00:04:59.460 in san diego and i work for the government all right cool hello uh i'm lizzie i am 35 as of this week

00:05:07.300 um i i'm from santa clara originally from berkeley and um i am a receptionist all right welcome

00:05:18.440 hi i'm rose um i'm 28 years old i'm from scranton pennsylvania and i run a business a gift shop with

00:05:25.300 my husband and i'm also a housewife do you get inundated with comments about the office given your

00:05:31.560 where you're from oh yeah there's course on the regular so all right what about you hi i'm mesa

00:05:38.820 i'm 21 i currently live in los angeles full-time film student and event producer okay welcome

00:05:44.820 my name is andrew wilson i'm the host of the crucible i'm a political satirist i do political

00:05:50.820 commentary and i do debates all right welcome everybody so we're going to go around the table

00:05:56.220 once more what is everybody's current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship

00:06:02.160 friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult if you're single how long have you been

00:06:08.140 single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you go ahead so i'm in a

00:06:14.180 relationship and my longest relationship i've ever been was 11 months is that is that your current

00:06:21.240 relationship how long have you been uh in this relationship um two and a half weeks two and a

00:06:27.660 half weeks yeah it's super new how long have you known the person um i first met him in like june

00:06:33.700 in june okay so you guys started off as friends or uh well i met him at the gym so like i would see him

00:06:40.580 at the gym occasionally you met him at the gym okay yeah actually i met him with one of his friends

00:06:45.480 and i became friends with his friend and it was like platonic and one day i was just like joking

00:06:52.460 around like help me find someone he was like oh what about my friend who you met at the gym

00:06:56.620 so he set us up and we had our first date like a couple months ago how did you guys meet at the gym

00:07:01.400 did you someone approach somebody or well i go in the sauna after every workout like just about every

00:07:07.300 day okay and that's usually when people talk to each other because you're just you talk in the sauna

00:07:11.980 wait hold on are you in the steam sauna or the dry sauna the dry sauna you talk i'm sorry hold on 0.94

00:07:18.740 is somebody who i have a i have a sauna at my house i used to sauna and like in the gym i fucking hated 0.99

00:07:24.780 it when people were talking in there and if they talk to me i wanted to okay all right maybe i'll know 0.93

00:07:30.620 what your gym is looking like but people are talking in the fucking 160 degree sauna because they 0.97

00:07:35.900 like to pass the time so they can how long are you in there for like like 20 minutes 10 how hot's the 0.96

00:07:40.620 sauna um i think it's 180 it's a hot sauna it's miserable to talk in the sauna because it dries

00:07:46.800 out your throat okay anyways i'm just being a buzz kill over so you guys met in the sauna yeah

00:07:53.840 who who started pretty combative about this whole song yeah i'm very i'm very i have strong opinions

00:08:00.300 about talking in saunas i'm against it i think it should be outlawed i think filming in gyms should

00:08:07.220 be outlawed there shouldn't you shouldn't be able to film in the gym anyways um so like how did the

00:08:12.280 conversation start oh what brings you to the sauna um it's really hot in here well when we first met

00:08:18.760 like it was him and two of his friends they were they came in talking and they were like making jokes

00:08:24.340 oh and i kind of just like butt into their conversation because i had just moved so i didn't

00:08:30.000 know anyone i was trying to make friends okay all right good times and then okay yeah that's a that's

00:08:36.780 a good place to meet your future boyfriend or husband just dripping with sweat and stinky in

00:08:42.320 the sauna it's great it's great um definitely there should not be talking in the sauna let me just rant

00:08:47.740 for five minutes about this you should you shouldn't talk in the sauna if i if you see me if you guys ever 0.98

00:08:52.480 see me in the sauna in helsinki or some shit please don't talk to me okay talk to me outside the sauna 0.95

00:08:58.060 okay anyways um my longest relationship was like three years and then i yeah i'm talking to somebody 0.98

00:09:09.180 you know talking stage so okay longest relationship three years how long have you been in the talking

00:09:16.360 stage maybe since like december so like two months two months two months okay

00:09:27.180 and are you talking to other people so this is like an exclusive talking stage yeah it's weird

00:09:34.680 though because like we don't really talk unless like we're hanging out like sounds like that's 0.76

00:09:42.920 you're in a fuck buddy situation that i don't know that well you don't talk unless you're hanging out 0.95

00:09:47.960 like do you what do you mean like so how does your text messages with this guy is it with a man yeah 0.98

00:09:55.100 yeah it's like is it like come over at 11 p.m yeah like when we're ready to hang out it's like okay

00:10:00.220 like do you pre-plan dates like oh are you free on tuesday at 5 p.m we like have tried to but we both

00:10:08.200 work like a lot so it's hard to hang out so there's only like one day out of the week where we can like

00:10:14.320 see each other okay and then it's at night and then i have to leave in the morning to go to work so

00:10:19.460 it's just like a you spend the night yeah oh okay all right so you come over at night okay all right

00:10:27.000 you said it's a talking stage do you want more with this person i would i would want more and like

00:10:34.080 i think he wants i don't want to put words in his mouth but i don't know i don't want to waste my

00:10:40.040 time either okay all right what about you i don't have exes um and i would say unavailable

00:10:48.640 okay no exes and you're currently unavailable so you're romantically involved with somebody then

00:10:55.900 perhaps what do you mean perhaps so sneaky i like to keep things pretty vague you know but um

00:11:02.060 going well she doesn't want to hear she doesn't want certain men to hear that she's involved with 0.96

00:11:09.440 certain men because why go on i mean that's my that's no that's the way i'm gonna take that i

00:11:17.060 just think situationships are so childish right like the label is so childish which is what you

00:11:22.220 currently find yourself in by definition maybe but i'm saying unavailable because i'm not gonna like

00:11:30.560 it's my personal decision if i'm gonna like give you that ability to make me unavailable

00:11:38.820 even though you haven't like outright said it if that makes any sense i have no idea what you just

00:11:46.800 okay it's like situationships are like someone always gets played in the situationship right

00:11:50.800 it's situationship is never like a fair game so if i'm making myself unavailable right i am going in

00:11:59.940 with the mindset that i'm treating it with the responsibility like i would a relationship

00:12:05.380 but at the same token i like don't have any expectations

00:12:09.120 but isn't that just the same thing what is it's a situationship no because like one person like

00:12:16.680 doesn't think that they're in a situationship that's usually how it works okay i don't know

00:12:21.100 that's just my take

00:12:21.760 it just seems like the same thing but with a different label i don't know i'm maybe just

00:12:28.080 gaslighting myself you're currently romantically involved with an individual maybe yeah what do

00:12:34.740 you it's not maybe it's a it's a yes or no so okay um but you said you've never we'll come back

00:12:44.000 to that but you've never been involved romantically for a long period of time with somebody oh i have

00:12:48.840 i just don't claim it what do you mean don't claim it like i like i disassociate like a gangbanger

00:12:54.220 is that it no i just like disassociate like once i'm like done with you like i forget about you and

00:12:58.720 like i don't like to carry that in my past well let's let's look at it objectively objectively were

00:13:04.440 you romantically involved yeah like would your friends be able to say from from 2021 to 2023 she

00:13:11.360 was in a relationship with x-man not like the cartoon okay so let's just call it something

00:13:17.080 different okay yeah what we would call exes do you have anything that we yeah okay yeah okay all

00:13:24.080 right took about five minutes to um wait so okay what's the longest it was about a year

00:13:30.840 about a year but you you those relationships were so poor that you choose to almost you want them

00:13:39.480 completely out of your mind they were so bad i just get the ick towards the end and i'm like what am i

00:13:46.580 doing with myself and i just like don't want anything to do with you

00:13:49.180 okay but you were actually they weren't imaginary relationships

00:13:55.120 you did in fact have these relationships but you choose to like

00:14:01.020 push them into the darkest corners of your mind and correct basically uh okay yeah i think i got it so

00:14:10.980 you have x's but you don't call them x's because it's part of the mechanism for you moving forward i would

00:14:15.840 never acknowledge them in public okay okay all right yeah all right um but going back to your

00:14:21.780 current situation you so it sounds like you're dating somebody you can call it that okay all right

00:14:31.200 um you care to elaborate a little bit you know i've been seeing him for a couple months is it you

00:14:39.900 consider him your boyfriend i think i'm being um it could be a couple months things are evolving

00:14:47.440 are you dating multiple men right now no i would never do that

00:14:51.340 stop the cap okay all right i don't even know what to put for your relationship status i'm just

00:15:00.420 gonna say it's complicated it's complicated it's complicated i don't know if it's actually

00:15:06.020 complicated but my understanding of it is she's my bestie so like she knows i'm not lying just rat

00:15:12.460 on your friend i'm not a snitch snitch snitch i'll give you a good deal on your but they're not

00:15:19.180 imaginary though right what's it called people no they're they're real people like i've met them

00:15:23.260 see keyword they there which is plural so i'm fair to assume that she's dating multiple people

00:15:28.980 no no no i'm being really good the term you used was a plural word yeah i've met her

00:15:33.660 exes past oh sure i like the quotes with the exes but i've met the one individual she's

00:15:40.660 hanging out with right now is it an nba player i can't disclose we can't disclose nfl professional

00:15:49.100 athlete rapper why is a professional athlete sprinter what one of them wasn't your one of

00:15:56.900 your exes was in the nba no i'm young i'm really young like we haven't got to that level well i

00:16:02.680 kind of like where i'm at right now okay sorry let me shut up all right well we can maybe get into

00:16:11.320 that later what about you that's my train of thought but uh i've been single for about a year

00:16:15.940 and a half uh longest relationship was six years yeah what was the third question uh no i think

00:16:21.920 that's it you so longest relationship six years were you married uh yes but not legally into the

00:16:28.100 mic if you can yes but not legally not legally so it was really there was a religious ceremony yeah

00:16:34.980 there was a certificate that got lost in the mail and it was never recorded was this like a vegas

00:16:40.520 no no it was a real ceremony and reception which is was it a covenant marriage okay yeah we just did

00:16:48.260 it by the river and what's the uh denomination christian i mean like a specific no specific okay

00:16:54.520 no okay non-denominational what about you uh yes i am in a relationship it'll be three years

00:17:01.560 in july so excited okay and my longest relationship was a little over four years

00:17:06.760 all right cool cool what about you um i'm happily married uh we've been together seven years so can

00:17:14.260 i have you tilt your mic down just a tad a little more if you can a little more perfect okay uh you

00:17:20.440 said you've been married for seven years you said seven i haven't been married seven years we've been

00:17:24.240 you've been together for seven years and that's your longest relationship i'm assuming

00:17:28.420 okay uh how long have you guys been married uh we got married in july of 2022 last year july of 2022

00:17:38.140 okay kind of feels like we were married before that but we got officially you know what we actually

00:17:42.560 we have something to pull up here we we took a deep dive on your instagram okay and uh nick if you

00:17:50.200 can pull it up so whoa hold on was this armpit hair well hold on you can pull it up then wait what

00:17:57.180 i didn't used to shave my armpits okay but hold on i'm i know this is kind of like non-sequitur

00:18:05.860 seeming but i'm arriving at a next one nick or go back next next i mean

00:18:09.980 oh we're gonna start right yeah but you're how did you oh my god bro wasn't it already

00:18:19.700 okay yeah wait oh that's my husband yeah exile that nick that's not the one okay this one

00:18:27.080 oh great okay up well we're looking at my whole instagram that one yep what are we looking for i can

00:18:35.160 help you this one and then but hold on i noticed it was shaved there no no i noticed something okay

00:18:42.720 oh jordan peterson nick

00:18:45.480 you met jordan peterson did you shave your armpits for it i don't remember and then wait actually go 0.63

00:18:55.160 back go back you go back x out scroll up and then your whole insta after you met jordan peterson your

00:19:03.480 whole instagram changed is it you have a kid no that's my uh okay whole instagram changed like

00:19:10.680 you went from like colored hair feminist armpit hair feminist i was never i wasn't oh okay i just

00:19:18.280 colored my hair it's not but it's it's weird you had color hair armpit hair then you all of a sudden

00:19:23.520 you meet jordan peterson your whole life changes yeah so uh jordan peterson is doing god's work okay

00:19:31.500 he definitely yeah he definitely influenced me i don't i don't know if it was like quite that

00:19:34.900 quite like that but did he make you clean your room that fell a little flat guy sorry uh all right uh

00:19:41.000 what about what about you what's uh um sorry okay uh currently in a relationship and longest was eight

00:19:49.000 months all right how long you've been in your current relationship one week one week uh i'm

00:19:55.760 missed writing down your age what's your age 21 21 okay uh you've been in a relationship for one

00:20:01.380 week how long have you known this individual three weeks three weeks how do you guys meet um online

00:20:07.700 instagram instagram who dm'd you uh i think i dm'd first you dm'd him what was your pickup line

00:20:15.040 opening line no pickup line uh we just had people that we knew mutually so

00:20:19.860 yeah in chile you're from you're chilean no i said mutually we people we knew mutually sorry

00:20:27.000 um wait so what was like how did you what was the first because you you said you you didn't know

00:20:37.320 each other in person first yeah so like you sent the first message what did you what did you say

00:20:42.440 oh i just said hey what's up like yeah that that was your is he that was your opening line yeah

00:20:49.260 yeah and what did he say back hi and then where did it go can you can you read out like the first

00:21:00.120 couple back and forths of your dms he said hi back that's it i mean i don't remember word for word but

00:21:07.740 we pretty much got introduced to someone we know kind of like was like hey you should met like

00:21:12.900 meet each other and stuff so i was like based off of that like so he was kind of

00:21:17.240 the communication was expected if that makes sense oh going in someone was kind of trying to set you

00:21:23.740 guys up yes okay all right there you have it folks all right andrew what about you uh yeah i'm married

00:21:31.780 for a hundred years now hundred years he's a vampire yeah he's uh there you have it but yeah good times

00:21:41.760 good times okay well a good jumping off point i think the first thing i'd want actually you know what

00:21:46.360 so okay guys the the syllabus for today is syllabus the right word i don't know uh the syllabus for

00:21:54.340 today we're gonna react to sean evans who was dating this only fans girl wait do we hold on oh wait we

00:22:03.160 do have one girl who does only fans here i think it's you correct oh guys a little round of applause

00:22:07.020 for brian only just one only fans girl okay um sean evans was romantically linked with an only fans woman

00:22:14.340 and uh it the news got out and people were kind of uh dunking on him on social media and then almost

00:22:22.060 instantly on and this happened on valentine's day he broke up with her broke up with her why don't we

00:22:28.820 start there nick why don't you pull up the uh various tweets we have uh sean evans from hot ones

00:22:34.360 is reported excuse me she's not an only fans girl she's a porn star uh melissa stratton okay now sean

00:22:41.520 evans if you don't know who sean evans is he's got a show called hot ones i don't know how many

00:22:45.900 subscribers how it's millions of subscribers very popular is it it's probably over 10 million i think

00:22:51.360 it's a very popular show they he eats chicken hot chicken wings with various pretty uh he gets very

00:22:58.020 big guests on there uh very successful guy dating a porn star melissa stratton next one 1.00

00:23:04.600 adam 22 who we've had on the podcast two times he says congrats sean her pussy is fired because 1.00

00:23:13.080 adam 22 has had sexual intercourse with sean evans's girlfriend now next one oh and then 0.99

00:23:23.980 oh this next one actually we'll come well i got these out of order next one nick tmz breaking story 0.97

00:23:31.920 hot ones host sean evans breaks up with porn star melissa stratton and then uh and then there's

00:23:37.800 another there we don't have to go it's okay we adam 22 was just he's adam 22 is funny um but he was

00:23:43.840 just kind of like trolling um he made this funny video basically upset like how dare sean evans break

00:23:50.260 up with her because she's a sex worker um and he was kind of memeing but so uh we go unfortunately

00:23:58.940 this would have been a better thing to bring up with a panel with a few more only fans girls but 1.00

00:24:04.440 it's recent so we're gonna fucking talk about it um any thoughts on that was was sean evans wrong 0.92

00:24:12.340 because i mean look we don't know the details of their who knows if they were even fucking dating 0.94

00:24:16.520 maybe they were just spotted together at an event somebody took a photo and you know how the tabloids 0.65

00:24:21.680 run with it let's assume though that they were dating whatever do you object to sean evans breaking up

00:24:27.360 with her and we're assuming this is the case because she does porn well i think if that was 0.93

00:24:34.100 really an issue for him he wouldn't have gotten in a relationship with her in the first place

00:24:37.580 and if the only reason he broke up with her was because it got out to the public and then it's

00:24:43.500 the public's opinion that swayed his perception of her then i think it's wrong in that if it was

00:24:49.220 really an issue to begin with he should have never initiated the relationship in the first place

00:24:53.040 okay i agree i think that there might be a little like insecurity underlying there but

00:25:00.660 well that's the only reason that you're breaking up with somebody is it is it is it insecurity 0.97

00:25:07.280 or you just if adam 22 goes hey bro her pussy's fire and he goes maybe i don't think this is such a 0.99

00:25:16.240 good idea now right maybe this guy who lets other dudes hump his chick if if he's memeing on me on 1.00

00:25:24.200 twitter maybe on not such a great idea right yeah but if you're getting into it with a porn star 0.98

00:25:30.780 shouldn't you already know that like like what you're getting into like that's the territory that

00:25:36.200 you're coming towards temporary lapse in judgment maybe i mean yeah that's that's on him you know but

00:25:42.140 what if she didn't disclose actually he probably knew but we we have had girls come on the show 1.00

00:25:49.000 who do only fans or porn or who even have done uh what's the court courtesan prostitution i'll just 1.00

00:25:58.720 say um courtesan court as escorting prostitution who don't disclose to potential uh partners that

00:26:08.640 they're involved with that kind of work i assume he knew though so isabella does raise a fair point

00:26:14.160 he probably knew getting in who knows why they actually broke up but it's definitely not a good 1.00

00:26:20.100 look for adam 22 to be putting you on blast on twitter saying her pussy what did he say her pussy is 1.00

00:26:25.860 fire yes not a good god that's fucking hilarious dude that's the funniest thing i've seen in a week 1.00

00:26:33.680 is that that guy was like congrats bro it's so good over there fucking hilarious like you might 0.99

00:26:40.580 not agree with him but like adam 22 is fucking that's the funniest shit ever so he shaves this 1.00

00:26:45.020 dude out of being with his porn star because he's like i fucked her that's great that's like 0.99

00:26:51.940 one of the greatest things i've seen all week well he was getting dragged by a bunch of other people 0.99

00:26:55.800 too but um let's continue any thoughts we'll go around the table i agree with the ladies i just feel

00:27:02.020 like if you're going to be involved with somebody who does sex work you need to know what it comes

00:27:05.780 with the turf and you need to be able to handle you know potentially having to see her online with

00:27:10.420 other dudes or people coming at you but what if a guy is naive initially going in and he doesn't

00:27:15.760 maybe he's you know doesn't know that you're gonna have adam 22 congratulating you on your 1.00

00:27:23.840 girlfriend's pussy and how fire it is you know like i could see a guy who's a bit you know maybe he's 1.00

00:27:31.300 naive let's say when it comes to romantic uh you know sorry i wouldn't expect that from somebody i 1.00

00:27:38.740 would expect that behavior from like a regular dude but a guy who's a public figure or is making

00:27:43.740 x amount of money who's known knows that's the turf it's just crazy to me like sean evans is in

00:27:49.600 he's probably makes millions of dollars a year he's got an incredibly successful channel he's not a bad

00:27:55.580 looking guy you know not bad looking guy you gotta date a why are you dating a porn star dude anyways

00:28:01.440 um what about you i mean i have nothing to add to their statements he probably went in knowing

00:28:06.960 and then his ego got blasted online and decided to end it that's basically here if and if you're

00:28:14.040 struggling to come up with anything he also broke up with her on valentine's day do you guys feel any

00:28:19.500 sort of type of way about that so i just have like i i believe that like men love to like break

00:28:25.840 up with women on valentine's day because they don't want to get them any gifts so it's just an excuse 0.99

00:28:30.660 so they're awesome what the men yeah no it's awful well i mean think about it do it like if you know

00:28:37.580 you're gonna break up with her yeah right you know it's gonna happen why wait till after you buy the

00:28:43.480 gift he probably didn't buy the gift right that's the whole point yeah so give her like two weeks before 1.00

00:28:48.920 so she can find a new yeah but what if he only figured it out you know like the day before he's

00:28:53.920 like okay well now this is perfect timing well i don't even have to buy the gift and just wait until

00:28:58.700 after and then buy the gift and then no and then break up yeah exactly don't buy the gift and then

00:29:04.800 just break up after i don't know i mean if some type of like problem happens to coincidentally come

00:29:10.120 up on valentine's day then like yeah i'm sure you wouldn't want to wait because it's like let's say

00:29:14.900 you find out your partner cheated on you and it happens to be on valentine's day then sure

00:29:18.720 you should break up with them on valentine's day but you shouldn't like specifically wait for

00:29:23.440 that day to break up with them well i don't think that's what happened though right yeah

00:29:28.140 your thoughts on the sean evans story uh well i think if as the woman in this situation if i was

00:29:38.420 her and that video came out i mean i'd kind of be you know expecting it and i'd have to

00:29:44.320 take ownership of my choices because i could sit there and be upset you know with um mr hot ones

00:29:50.780 about this or but that would be a waste of my mental energy i would probably want to focus on

00:29:56.140 what i could fix um yeah i would agree with hold on grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars

00:30:04.000 yo grid one thank you number one is sx workers are not date material i will say it again for the

00:30:10.100 cheap seats there is no man out there that is not gonna feel a bit betrayed if another man can ask

00:30:15.840 him how his deck tastes it's true ah that's true that's your best super chanter by the way yeah grid

00:30:26.660 one's uh grid one is an absolute legend oh also i just want to really quickly we have um we have uh

00:30:34.180 you know there's been some incidences recently so i have some extra security here you know um he's

00:30:40.820 he's not in a german military uniform it's a chill modern this is a modern chilean chile military uniform

00:30:49.720 so any people who want to throw out any accusations that somehow i'm you know no

00:30:56.460 it's chile okay anyways um your thoughts on the uh sean evans thing thank you grid one by the way

00:31:03.100 i think going into a relationship with someone knowing what their profession is you do bear a

00:31:08.900 little bit of responsibility for consequences that might come after that but i also don't blame him

00:31:14.120 because again how would he have known that adam 22 was going to post a tweet like that

00:31:17.860 i might also question my relationship if something were to come out after the fact

00:31:23.660 um and it made me feel that way and i don't think the fact that he broke up with her on valentine's

00:31:30.640 day um matters andrew any further thoughts on the sean evans i think the valentine's day is just like

00:31:38.480 the ultimate irony but from my perspective it's fucking hilarious and adam adam 22 did something 0.75

00:31:46.080 good on that one i think but that's just me okay uh we have let me see here 0.94

00:31:53.660 do you see this andrew uh step one open another tab on youtube step two type in the fake christians

00:31:59.160 on youtube can't stop lying yeah i'm not dealing with step three enjoy the rabbit hole okay this this

00:32:05.580 name looks familiar anyways uh we have grid one motorsports evening brian brain excuse me good work

00:32:12.400 on panel enough red flags at this table to land all the planes currently aloft is that the ghost of

00:32:17.000 three or four tricks past i see or did you borrow the latest android from elon is it ellen or elon i

00:32:22.640 always fuck his name up elon musk right yeah it's elon i don't know why i'm calling him ellen okay 0.87

00:32:28.280 uh yeah thank you good one wait who's the ghost i don't know they're i don't know okay thank you 0.96

00:32:35.320 good one appreciate it uh let me see oh we have a chat here from the vamp guy 10 when do leila jenner 1.00

00:32:41.400 molly a little coming back on the podcast i love them well actually i think molly's coming tomorrow

00:32:47.420 and then leila we've been trying to schedule her back but uh you know i think she'll come back

00:32:54.000 eventually vamp guy 10 thank you for the 100 euro appreciate it man thank you thank you uh let's see

00:32:59.760 what else we got uh was that what was the other thing we had to pull up nick there was another

00:33:04.480 thing we were going to react to actually before we do that so one thing i've been doing recently

00:33:10.780 um does anybody here disagree with me on anything maybe you've seen clips of the show and there's

00:33:20.180 something i've said that you disagree with maybe you've seen andrew on the show maybe there's

00:33:23.440 something you disagree with him on so i'd like to start there for anybody anybody who disagrees on

00:33:28.060 anything i think that's a good jumping off point anybody uh i do have a a slight uh point of

00:33:38.060 contention yes please tell us with your non-profit ah yes ah yes tell me to use your words yes i think

00:33:49.200 it's a little bit in bad faith because let i get real here bad faith yes because i think that

00:33:54.480 ultimately girls are just sending you their pictures of things you like which happen to be 1.00

00:33:59.720 big labia i don't think it's a non-profit what's the story here big labia matter guys the blm

00:34:07.880 you know yeah so i think you'll be i've i've done so much advocacy for this movement like i said i am

00:34:16.740 the spearhead i'm the spearhead i'm a fucking trailblazer there's no other dude standing up and saying 0.98

00:34:23.900 hold on there's a fucking kanye thing for this actually fuck it there's no other dude standing 0.99

00:34:28.320 up defending women who have outies i'm the only one i'm the only one now you have to remember i've 0.99

00:34:36.760 actually disclosed i've actually stated in a rather sarcastic tone before although i've cut it from my

00:34:42.020 show intro because it tends to be lengthy i say absolutely no ulterior motives with with it yeah you

00:34:50.540 say that but yeah i say it so it's like i'm not like secretive about my ulterior motives with that

00:34:56.800 okay but it's it's uh yeah it's i think because you do discuss um you're very oh i forgot how you

00:35:02.840 say it you're a natural hashtag blm in the chat boys supremacist so i think it would be better

00:35:08.800 natural body supremacist that's the one yeah so i think it would be better maybe what if you just

00:35:13.160 broadened it to just all like anyone who's thinking of surgery or any sort of thing they could

00:35:18.380 all message you you know what that's going to be my next non-profit organization but i want to start

00:35:22.660 with something niche i want to start with something a bit more niche because you know listen when i

00:35:28.020 run for mayor of san barbara eventually and then eventually the state of california i'm going to run 0.99

00:35:31.760 for governor one of my platforms is going to be i'm going to i want plastic surgery oh fuck i didn't 0.93

00:35:37.320 mean to press i accidentally pressed a button i'm going to ban plastic surgery why in this the great 0.99

00:35:43.380 state of california that's right no more fucking bbls no more fake lips no more fucking lipo get 1.00

00:35:49.860 the fuck out of here with that bullshit but what if it's like medically necessary oh there's medically 1.00

00:35:55.440 necessary like if you have like a deviated septum and you need a yeah that's fine if it's medically 1.00

00:36:01.160 indicated i will allow it but it has to go through a review board okay you know it's going to be a big

00:36:08.020 government thing there's going to be a review board to make sure that it actually is medically 0.97

00:36:11.840 necessary it's going to be like a lengthy two but bro there ain't ever here is there ever a medical

00:36:18.960 medical reason to get a bbl i would say no probably not what about lip filler lip filler um no yeah

00:36:28.160 so whose vote are you guys down to do i have your guys's endorsement for the

00:36:34.420 no endorsement first course of action is into the microphone please no um yeah no plastic surgery

00:36:42.140 that would be your first thing you get into office you have all this power that's that's my first

00:36:47.180 thing i go to is is i'm banning plastic surgery yeah oh good okay yeah and i'm also banning any

00:36:54.540 feminist studies programs at any of the public universities too yeah defund the feminists maybe 1.00

00:37:00.860 start with that one yeah i will say any extremists i don't really i'm not a fan of body modification

00:37:09.280 but i wouldn't want to outlaw because i just would prefer less government with you know just do what

00:37:15.780 you want to do i just wouldn't recommend it well here's here's where you've confused me for somebody

00:37:21.060 for a democracy supporter i'm actually an authoritarian dictator so if i did gain control in some way look at

00:37:27.740 this guy standing behind me first off do you see this guy this is my second in command here okay

00:37:33.660 we're gonna when i get power first off i'm right now i'm in the sweatshirt but wait until you see

00:37:39.080 me in the military uniform i look very sharp and i can be very convincing okay i will convince the

00:37:43.800 masses to vote for me and then yes cap or no cap cap or no cap yeah when you're in the uniform

00:37:48.960 that's what matters i think right now my hair looks pretty good so i you know i maybe when i start

00:37:54.520 balding so you're gonna be a no cap dictator no cap is that i've never is that there's there's those

00:37:59.560 are the distinctions it's a thing you're a cap or no cap yeah stalin had great hair he was a no cap

00:38:04.740 dictator i would be a no cap dictator if i start to bald i think i'll start wearing a hat i feel like

00:38:11.220 those are the more popular dictators the no cap yeah was was what are the other no what are some of

00:38:19.220 the other no cap dictators dating podcasts well it's hard because some of them sometimes they're

00:38:23.720 a cap dictator right hitler was a cap or no cap dictator he was a half and half yeah he like he

00:38:28.700 did both you know stalin no cap dictator no cap i don't think i've sometimes i've seen him in the

00:38:34.420 cap yeah but this is like for the most part right he was a no cap mussolini sometimes had a cap he had

00:38:41.100 a weird one though i didn't like mussolini's cap yeah well he was bald though he was bald yeah so he

00:38:46.300 rocked the bald head though he did he did rock the bald head i'm trying to think what what who

00:38:53.020 was this the spanish who was the spanish guy what was uh franco franco franco what about the japanese

00:39:02.880 did they who was their uh i feel like there was the emperor i feel like their emperors were no cap

00:39:08.140 yeah they were no cap when they were in public yeah and then speaking of which um

00:39:12.860 i want the girls here related to world war ii i want you to name three axis powers and three 0.98

00:39:22.220 allied powers starting with isabella go ahead in world war ii yeah so three axis powers three allied

00:39:29.740 powers i'm not gonna lie i didn't take history in high school um sorry i did my freshman year but that

00:39:40.120 was like but you know there's a lot of netflix yeah you don't watch like the netflix things world

00:39:46.360 war ii in color i don't have netflix hit the the what you don't have netflix no you never just googled

00:39:54.280 the deadliest war of just out of curiosity like let me check out this like catastrophic i have learned

00:40:00.360 about it and now i just don't remember can you name one axis power that's it well i don't want to say

00:40:06.920 something wrong and then you guys all laugh we went we won't laugh we went to the same school i

00:40:12.360 didn't take history either so i wouldn't what school did you guys go to pepperdine pepperdine

00:40:17.480 wait call is this college yeah and then we were both schooled internationally for high school so we

00:40:21.720 never learned history yeah yeah you were in cairo egypt they didn't teach about world war ii the suez

00:40:27.720 canal wait egypt controls the suez canal correct andrew pretty sure they do no we didn't learn about the

00:40:35.400 suez at all the suez canal but that is very important in both world wars i'll let you know

00:40:40.200 isabella okay tough crowd tonight okay um three axis powers three allied powers i can tell you one

00:40:49.800 wait can you show us your your tats yeah wait into the camera here what does it say come down

00:40:56.760 is that like a drug thing and bipolar thing good time oh okay any other

00:41:02.200 other things you want to tell us about yourself i don't is that oh and you have the arm tattoos is

00:41:07.720 that like a bipolar reference yeah oh come are you current are you currently a little no i'm just

00:41:16.040 always like you're just kind of mellow yeah i'm also getting over um a cold too so it's not medication

00:41:23.240 what is this not medication are you getting over ebola is that it i i know did you have a bowl is what

00:41:28.680 i'm asking no i would never wish that on anyone good neither would i thank you i'm with you okay

00:41:35.640 cool we're both good people okay um wait so okay one allied power one axis power what what is that

00:41:45.000 world war ii what the allied powers and the also allied powers would be like what who the us is allied

00:41:51.880 with or am i completely off well we can't just tell you that but i'm trying to learn and the access

00:41:57.640 powers would be like so okay world war ii right yes you've heard of world yeah my great grandfather

00:42:03.480 okay here i'll help you out allied good guys access yeah bad guys okay i got that much but i couldn't

00:42:13.080 tell you so what so whatever countries we were chill with are our allied i wouldn't say who was part

00:42:22.760 well just one country from from each japan was an access yes yes and then i don't know who we were

00:42:33.160 okay with because i feel like we pissed off a lot of people so yeah um definitely we're pretty close

00:42:38.760 to the germans definitely not russia the germans no no okay they'd be on the other side we weren't we

00:42:46.600 trying to kill the germans right so that would be so they're the access yeah there you go okay good 0.97

00:42:51.000 times okay uh what about you hard pass i'm not gonna do that to myself you might have named the

00:42:58.680 two i would have known so well well let's go back to three then let's go three access powers three

00:43:05.000 allied powers

00:43:08.760 me nothing nothing no just one dude i'm not i'm not even american i don't know like you're not american

00:43:14.600 what what are you i'm bahamian you're bahamian yeah is the bahamas a u.s territory or it's its own

00:43:22.840 country it's own country now now i'm gonna get clipped for that one not knowing about that um okay

00:43:29.400 what about you uk france ally japan germany and let's put soviet union for access i don't know well

00:43:38.040 it's only a union wasn't the access i just threw things out so please move on to get over this

00:43:47.080 question well i think she's since she's named some i feel like we can't really continue with the

00:43:50.760 question that's fair unless anybody wants to like if any bonus points bonus credit if you can name

00:43:59.960 any others that she didn't name italy huh italy is an ally

00:44:07.320 axis grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars b gotta check out for a bit love andrews

00:44:14.840 haters in the chat such truly dedicated and delusional folk are rarely seen outside theater

00:44:20.440 asylums feminism has failed the patriarchy is here to help yo grid one thank you for tuning into the

00:44:27.640 stream tonight appreciate it man uh the patriarchy is here to help guys okay all right um he's right

00:44:35.880 anything for you any extra credit yeah i think canada was an ally with the us um england

00:44:44.200 um and then access we've already said germany japan that's all i can think of for now it's been a while

00:44:50.840 interesting this is so it's kind of another um it's like my favorite things you know k-d-l-d-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-d-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l- orada-i-l-l-l-l-l-l

00:45:07.900 .. question for the ladies if you're driving 80 miles per hour how long does it take here to you to go 80 miles 1.00

00:45:14.840 if you're driving 80 miles per hour how long does it take you to go 80 miles an hour an hour

00:45:25.820 an hour uh he tried to trick you guys okay i'm sure you guys don't know that all right

00:45:30.780 uh thank you lll appreciate it um all right so disagreement anybody did i i don't know if i

00:45:38.020 thoroughly addressed your you think it's kind of vulgar the big labia matter thing and i don't

00:45:42.760 issue with that you like big labia that's fine oh okay i just think it's disingenuous that's all

00:45:47.680 disingenuous yes the but it's a that it's a but you do realize it's kind of like you know the name

00:45:54.040 of the organization right i get it it's a joke for it's the same abbreviation as another yes yeah

00:46:00.380 yeah tough crowd unfortunate what happened with that big labia's matter

00:46:06.000 anybody else any disagreements anybody disagree on anything all labia matter so

00:46:12.220 yes i i agree but you know i think we need to really just we need a movement for

00:46:18.060 i was thinking about that the other day at the club at at the club your movement

00:46:24.740 this this episode feels like an like we're starting off like the office a little bit

00:46:32.040 we'll get there guys we're gonna get there it's been a little a little bit uh rough rough takeoff but

00:46:39.760 we're gonna get there guys does anybody else have any disagreements

00:46:42.820 you've seen the show come on isabella i know you got smoke let's hear it well i don't like i've seen

00:46:50.080 the clips that farha has been in okay i don't remember what you guys talked about the specifics

00:46:54.680 why do you call her farha is that not her name farha it's pronounced farha if she's middle eastern

00:47:02.660 oh but i'm not sure can't tell for sure word okay cool well we'll react to our next thing here

00:47:11.280 guys this clip went viral on twitter a couple days ago uh nick it's the twitter wait is it the twitter

00:47:19.120 thing i think it's the twitter thing uh go ahead you can play it so if you're making

00:47:29.140 hold on wait pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause the put it at the very

00:47:36.120 beginning go to the audio icon is it maxed fuck uh play it again 0.90

00:47:41.740 so if you're making fifty thousand dollars don't date it's a little bit i'm i'm just being for real 0.97

00:47:48.940 you're not ready to date again i'm with you you're not ready to you're not ready to date because

00:47:53.180 courtship costs okay everything costs you can go for 22 walks in the park eventually shorty is gonna

00:48:00.000 need a sip of something she's gonna be thirsty this bottle of water is three dollars in atlanta 0.98

00:48:04.860 let's not play so if you don't have any expendable cash don't date and whatever that looks like to

00:48:10.720 you you might only make 50 000 but you live in a chute and now you got expendable cash or get you 0.86

00:48:14.540 a bottom of the barrel bitch that's gonna date you when you have no money if she doesn't have the 1.00

00:48:19.100 expectation and i'm gonna tell you this right now enjoy it while it lasts because eventually you're 0.99

00:48:23.760 gonna want to run because she doesn't stretch you she doesn't make you the man that you need to 1.00

00:48:28.300 become she allows you to be the stagnant dude in the same jeans for days you know what i'm saying

00:48:33.160 so if you're making 50 000 don't date you can pause it there uh sorry guys that the audio was a little

00:48:42.020 low but there's luckily their subtitles i'm sure you guys were able to hear it somewhat sorry guys

00:48:46.160 if it was a little low uh so going around the table she said if you're making 50 000 as a man

00:48:51.860 you should not date agree disagree if so why starting with you go ahead um i disagree well i mean me being

00:49:01.760 22 you know most people i know are either still in school or they're just getting their like entry

00:49:06.460 level job so they're not making that much money um but in general i don't really think it should

00:49:12.660 matter how much like you know you guys could grow together or maybe the woman could be the breadwinner 1.00

00:49:19.960 of the household so i don't see why making 50 000 means you shouldn't date someone like sure

00:49:26.400 being in a relationship comes with expenses because you know you might want to go out and

00:49:32.020 do more activities together that cost money but you also like you don't have to do that either

00:49:38.520 okay your thoughts um yeah everybody i i disagree everybody has to start somewhere um and i don't

00:49:47.700 expect my partner to make more money than me or anything like that i think like what matters is growing

00:49:56.280 together and of course if the relationship is stagnant and it's not growing or going anywhere then 0.99

00:50:03.780 yeah but making 50 000 less than 50 000 that's stupid 0.92

00:50:08.440 i mean everyone deserves companionship but you have to date a girl in your price range 0.98

00:50:15.400 yeah what do you mean so i mean you can't expect to like talk to a girl that's like used to going to

00:50:23.520 like five star michelin star places once a week and go shopping once a week and all you can provide

00:50:29.740 is chick-fil-a chick-fil-a is grub huh it's grub like it's good i'm saying but you can't like lower

00:50:37.580 someone's ex like expect to like a girl to take you seriously when she's already used to a certain

00:50:43.200 expectation what's your expectation my personal expectation i don't really like to give away my

00:50:47.860 expectation so men don't replicate it but i'll just say like you're gonna have to like i'll talk

00:50:53.520 share a little bit here okay like i mean being reasonable like maybe every other week like a

00:51:00.300 dinner date you know five star restaurant it doesn't have to be a five star restaurant but somewhere we

00:51:06.040 both want to try okay um frequent vacations um princess treatment princess treatments yeah i'm

00:51:16.480 not too hard to deal with all right um yeah just like a princess it's not totally it's not hard it's

00:51:22.620 not easy uh okay so princess treatment you said that um i'm trying to remember exactly what you said at

00:51:32.100 the very beginning there you said something along the lines of you shouldn't date outside of your

00:51:37.560 price range price range so like did you say what that is to you well there's no like okay i would say

00:51:47.700 like for example the activities that i like to do and i'm used to doing probably cost like anywhere

00:51:53.860 between five to ten thousand a month for a man to keep sorry the activities that i like to do and i like

00:52:01.000 to partake in just to eyeball i'm not gonna be be exact but probably five to ten grand a month

00:52:06.380 just to upkeep what but can you so what what are you are you hang gliding off what are you doing i do

00:52:12.840 as a person yeah but is he taking you zip lining in cairo what's what what's 10 000 no i'm just

00:52:19.220 like activities that i like to do and then like with my partner so like i'm saying like i like to travel a

00:52:23.580 lot i'd love to go out to eat um other things so maybe five is a bit much let's say maybe like

00:52:30.780 oh hold on you said five to ten so five was on the low end yeah because like what if we have a

00:52:35.840 birthday or it's like a birthday that's why i mean that's at least six thousand dollars right

00:52:41.000 for a birthday like like i'm just saying like things come things come up so like you have to

00:52:46.060 be able to like what comes our breaks down like car breaks down like it's summertime you want to go

00:52:51.360 on a vacation so if you're dating a guy breakdown is different than birthday right but i'm saying

00:52:56.180 there's occasions it's more expensive wait have you ever had a sugar daddy no isabella is she telling

00:53:01.700 the truth yeah all my all everyone who i just entertain just happens to be nice to me so like

00:53:07.140 i think she's like pretty more on the high maintenance side she's on the high maintenance 1.00

00:53:12.020 side and i think she naturally attracts men who want to provide that okay what what does it mean to

00:53:19.120 be high maintenance um i just like take very good care of myself i'm very like strict with myself

00:53:26.480 and my routine and i have high expectations of what should we deliver you know in other than when

00:53:33.340 we're dating what what should a guy deliver like i was talking to somebody about this like i said the

00:53:39.840 frequent dates going out to eat the romantic surprises um occasionally like the flowers you know

00:53:47.220 like making sure everything is good in the house like if i need anything sure um not too much question

00:53:53.460 for you on that so if that's what and you want a guy to start doing that from the get-go pretty early

00:53:59.380 on in the relation i mean i don't is your current guy doing that stuff but if i i wouldn't entertain

00:54:06.500 someone who wasn't like doing at least most of that yes so if that's kind of your expectations you

00:54:11.220 mentioned like flowers providing for you etc if that's what's expected of the guy what's expected

00:54:18.780 of you oh i don't know i never i don't know but i mean you were you were crying i mean you were able

00:54:28.460 to um enumerate multiple things that you expect the guy to do but what what do you do um i'm a lady

00:54:37.940 he exists i'm a lady i don't she's the table i don't bring anything to the table but an iphone

00:54:42.880 as jt says but anyways at least she's honest i'm actually quite smart and he probably upgraded it

00:54:50.640 right that's fair enough i'm actually a great time i'm very smart um but you know no one asks me what

00:54:56.240 i bring to the table okay can you can you tell us a thing yeah thank you what do you bring

00:55:01.500 what do you bring i'm i'm very business-minded so i feel like if i connect with a good person

00:55:08.340 like we can collaborate together and like i can help you in areas of your business or potentially

00:55:12.740 opening up something new um oh hang on just real quick if a guy is making five to ten or spending

00:55:20.560 five to ten thousand dollars per month on you do you really think he needs your help with business

00:55:25.260 we can always make more money there's never an issue with making more money yeah right but but it

00:55:30.400 seems like he's already like finding my business or going to do something he doesn't have the time

00:55:35.720 to do like what like say if he wants to venture into real estate or maybe a certain area i don't

00:55:41.840 know that he just has an idea in but we only have 40 hours 24 hours in a day have you made a lot of

00:55:46.860 money in real estate pardon have you made a lot of money in real estate no i haven't but i'm saying

00:55:51.800 well then how could you help him make money in real estate what if he wants to go get like a rental

00:55:55.360 property or something or like i and like he needs someone to help manage i can go find the people i'm

00:55:59.480 just saying you have a history of managing rental properties i can learn okay well i'm just saying

00:56:04.380 like how is this helping him this is hypothetical yeah but i mean hypothetically how would this even

00:56:09.500 help him because you're hypothetically have no experience hypothetically needing these things so

00:56:13.940 how are you hypothetically helping his hypothetical business so my degree my degree is in marketing

00:56:18.420 income right so say for example i wanted to go open up a marketing agency that could potentially

00:56:24.060 bring in like 20k a month in revenue i can ask my man to help me start up the business okay and

00:56:29.240 it's not like he's doing something for you yeah but potentially i'm gonna give him earnings down

00:56:32.780 the line right yeah i don't mind you invest in your business maybe you give yourself the back but

00:56:37.480 maybe not okay but no one complains yeah no but what i'm saying is i'm saying down the line like i

00:56:43.040 you can learn things you know over time yeah yeah but what i'm saying is if this guy already is spending

00:56:48.360 this kind of money probably doesn't need your help in business and then you say but wait if you invest

00:56:53.300 in me and my business then i'll gain enough experience for down the line maybe i can help

00:56:58.700 you that seemed like a really bad deal but that's why i don't know when nothing's expected of the

00:57:04.280 lady the lady is just there you just exist right ten thousand a month but don't men want like one 1.00

00:57:10.960 two hundred dollars popped back in and wow yeah this is a shock that these girls want a lot and 1.00

00:57:17.120 offer little to the ladies what do you offer a man other than three usable girls let me get back 0.60

00:57:23.080 at him let me get back at him because i don't think i communicated this properly like as a woman you

00:57:26.980 are expected to do things oh are you answering yeah okay as a woman you are expected to do things 0.66

00:57:32.220 keeping the house clean keeping things in order making sure he's good when he comes home from work

00:57:36.500 food blah blah blah blah blah you're supposed to be not have a bad attitude i agree there's

00:57:40.820 fundamental things but i'm saying i've never encountered a guy or at least entertain someone

00:57:45.960 who has sat there and asked me what do you bring to the table no masculine man asked that question

00:57:51.000 why would that be a hit to masculinity it would be a hit to masculinity because because you know that

00:57:56.340 a woman is there to compliment you and and and she's she's an asset to you and in terms of like 0.83

00:58:00.920 doesn't sound like you're an asset sounds like you just cost ten thousand dollars a month but we said

00:58:04.760 ten thousand was hypothetical right no that wasn't hypothetical that was your answer that was not

00:58:09.860 that was not the hypothetical part something like maybe like between like five to ten grand a month

00:58:13.920 and extra expenses you have a wife you know how much you spend on your wife a month yeah it's not

00:58:19.420 ten thousand dollars okay but i'm sure you're at least probably spending a couple grand on her

00:58:23.360 with eating going out to eat vacation stuff like that we put all that towards kids well i don't

00:58:28.540 have kids and i don't date men with kids yeah no i get it but what i'm saying to you is that

00:58:33.360 nickelodeon donated two hundred dollars thank you nickelodeon appreciate it looked up the price

00:58:39.780 of a gift and gotten mad your boyfriend didn't pay enough on you toxic attitude btw video was just a

00:58:47.940 black carla ilia i wonder if she supports poor eugenics too yeah nick actually nickelodeon andrew um

00:58:57.600 actually he helped me kind of craft the argument with uh well if you what i'm trying to remember

00:59:03.440 what it was but basically she said that uh broke men should not have children and argue or and andrew

00:59:11.180 you pointed out to me that that's basically a eugenics program yeah that's eugenic in nature so

00:59:16.080 the but but back to this yeah right thank you nickelodeon and i'm not even picking on you i'm

00:59:21.600 actually just trying to understand right just trying to understand when we're asking what you

00:59:27.560 bring to the table you're like well i'm a good human being that's what you're saying i'm a good

00:59:31.500 human being it's like okay but he's a good human being and he's spending ten thousand dollars a month

00:59:35.920 so when you're asking what do you bring to the table right since it's strictly a materialist worldview

00:59:41.500 that you have on this it's strictly material so you're saying oh grid one motorsports donated two 0.98

00:59:48.420 hundred dollars a man making that kind of money does not have time for such nonsense and hookers 1.00

00:59:54.760 are cheaper you need to bring something to the table other than needing a man to pay your way 0.99

00:59:59.780 right but we don't need a man to pay our way we have our own money yeah yeah but but what he's saying

01:00:04.000 he's actually making a really good point so let me try to frame it better thanks saying there's only

01:00:09.140 a material mindset here material mindset is well it's expected that i provide a material dinner

01:00:15.100 and i clean the house and these are all material things the expectation from him is that he provides

01:00:20.160 material with way harder right five ten thousand dollars in order to complement things that you

01:00:25.780 desire right so they ask really when you they're asking what do you bring to the table saying what do

01:00:32.180 you complement that he desires what is the material thing that you think that you bring to the table

01:00:37.900 that is desired by the man well unfortunately most men just kind of want a trophy when i think that's

01:00:45.980 the most material thing ever that's it not that's not it but then deeper than that most men obviously 0.63

01:00:53.880 want peace they want you know someone to come home to and someone to speak to but it doesn't sound

01:00:58.840 like a trophy it sounds like something else i'm okay i don't know if you live in la no okay i know

01:01:06.060 a lot of la girls and who get crazy things monthly from their boyfriends husbands or whatever they don't 1.00

01:01:13.500 do anything but sit on the side of their man and be pretty so i'm gonna say from that end of the spectrum

01:01:20.640 those men are just looking for a pretty face to walk around in a business meeting but someone who maybe 1.00

01:01:25.940 wants a balance of that or different they want a woman who not only takes care of herself but it's 1.00

01:01:30.820 going to be add value to his life in a way that he can be comfortable in the home and like come back

01:01:35.240 to the home and be peaceful with her that's that's what you think the value is so if we were to say for

01:01:40.840 instance one of these women that you're talking about who is a trophy for one of these men in la 1.00

01:01:46.460 what's the difference between her and a prostitute exactly 1.00

01:01:49.340 i i think ownership what ownership couldn't she walk away from the relationship even easier than 1.00

01:02:02.420 the the prostitute at least in the prostitute there's a contract right no well there is right 1.00

01:02:09.060 it's still a contract it's like you hand me money and then there's sex involved yeah but so couldn't 0.97

01:02:14.640 the trophy like walk away even easier than the prostitute could so i mean well like what's the 0.76

01:02:18.540 actual distinction here between i just exist and i'm just here to be a trophy and i mean it just

01:02:24.580 sounds like prostitution essentially right ask the men i don't know why i'm asking you i don't i don't

01:02:31.440 know man i just observe i just observe because at the end of the day like the wives in those situations 0.99

01:02:36.640 when they get divorced they walk away you know with a big sum and the prostitute doesn't 1.00

01:02:41.040 yeah that's a good point i don't know that's a really good point they do but i'm not sure that

01:02:49.940 that's uh helpful to the relationship dynamics that we're talking about here i don't know what's

01:02:55.320 helpful if the men are happy with doing what they do then let them do it who are we to judge

01:02:59.780 i don't quite understand your question exactly about it because what she brings is a relationship

01:03:08.240 relationship and someone to spend time with emotional support all the things that come with

01:03:12.600 a healthy relationship no she no she doesn't she's saying that there's a material existence which is

01:03:17.440 there and her job is to do nothing except just to exist no material relationship because that's what 1.00

01:03:23.200 men want no no no i'm not that's what she said i'm not i'm not saying that i'm saying that there are

01:03:28.120 certain standards in a relationship that i would that to even be in a relationship this is the bare

01:03:35.260 minimum standard but of course if i'm in my relationship with a man i'm bonding with him

01:03:39.120 i'm i'm doing things for him we're there together it's a companionship so what's the

01:03:44.540 so what's the expectations that's the questions what do you bring to the table

01:03:47.980 the expectation for him for you

01:03:50.340 he just he just take care of the house like take care of business you know

01:03:56.100 that's the expectation what what is your wife's expectation i don't know my wife's expectation

01:04:02.260 my wife's expectation was to give me children take good care of my children and to obey 0.99

01:04:06.720 that's the expectation okay well i would obey my partner for sure the children part i'm not looking

01:04:12.140 to have children anytime soon yeah no i get it but when you say obey what do you mean by that

01:04:16.640 like to be respectful and to be submissive to your man that's respect and submission is different

01:04:22.120 than obey what do you mean by obeisance is i do it when i say to do something you do it

01:04:27.480 and if i make a decision that you disagree with ultimately i have the final say and you don't

01:04:32.180 have one oh your wife has to abide by that yeah why doesn't she have a final say why would she 1.00

01:04:37.880 well does she not offer anything to you that would allow her to have but it's up to my choosing

01:04:43.520 whether or not i intake that and agree with it or disagree with it but ultimately if i disagree

01:04:48.660 with it it's my decision so you're the one with the javel a javel a gavel a gavel the judge no no

01:04:58.000 it's uh in a christian marriage man's head of the household okay so when you guys first got together

01:05:04.160 was she already like that or did you have to like bring up these ideas that like there wasn't if

01:05:12.100 there wasn't an understanding from the at least near the beginning of the relationship that that was

01:05:16.740 the expectation you know that wouldn't have been a relationship okay so this is but this is a

01:05:21.580 question is i think i think what's missing is that i think men value virtue and i think women don't 0.75

01:05:27.720 give a shit i think that they mostly seem to value material instead of virtue and so this is where i 0.79

01:05:33.560 think the disconnect is i don't know how you can say that well i just said it there's men there's 0.99

01:05:38.600 like you could generalize and say men are very materialistic in like america how are they

01:05:43.200 materialistic fast cars the designer clothing men are materialistic as hell these preferences for

01:05:50.380 things which are material however men value things above the material so do women what children when

01:05:58.220 that happens sometimes your that's material experiences family friends community yeah what are the higher

01:06:06.060 values though like things like integrity yeah things should be at the top of the list why wasn't it

01:06:12.780 then i i was just if it should be at the top of the list why wasn't it at the top that was a weird

01:06:18.980 way to frame it yeah there's no it's not a weird way to frame there's material there's non-material

01:06:23.840 virtues are non-material when you said virtue then i kind of realized what you were saying but of

01:06:27.700 course integrity honesty respect like all these things are accountability yeah like all of those

01:06:33.060 things are super important correct okay but so the disconnect that i see this what i'm saying

01:06:37.800 is it just seems that men seem to take accountability for those virtues a lot better than women do at

01:06:43.520 least in the modern era not disagreeing broad generalization yeah because it's broadly and

01:06:48.880 generally true okay do you have if you want to make it more hyper specific i'm happy to do it

01:06:54.800 do you have a study a sociological study let me tell you about sociological studies first of all 60

01:07:01.300 percent of them basically you can dismiss right away and do you know what

01:07:04.380 this is because of what's called the replication crisis so what's happened is there's two major

01:07:10.500 fields which are non-scientific they're called soft sciences the first medical field the second

01:07:14.460 sociology these are the two which are the worst affected by this the problem is is that most of

01:07:19.600 studies in sociology can't be replicated most not some most of them can't be replicated so anytime

01:07:26.240 somebody says what about my studies and my sociology problem is it's a soft science because of controls

01:07:32.280 so i dismiss a lot of it and i probably should most people should probably dismiss a lot of it because

01:07:37.880 of replication you're just speaking off your experience well observable intrinsic reality and i

01:07:44.200 have an observance to history as well but even if we were to use modern data right bring up whatever

01:07:50.140 you want we can get into it i mean you're basically saying women are inherently inferior when it comes 1.00

01:07:55.080 to virtue yes i'm the whatever podcast that's what i'm saying yes the views expressed by the

01:08:04.200 guests on whatever podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever podcast show me

01:08:09.800 where women go and fight for their country and die for it that's not everybody has their own role 0.97

01:08:15.400 what's their role i mean aren't you i mean you're like a red pill guy i'm not a red pill guy what is

01:08:20.060 their role so while you're off fighting for the wars we were given the role to take care of the home

01:08:27.280 to take care of the family children all of that oh yeah i mean that was a terrible job you had to do

01:08:31.980 the same exact thing that you were already doing before men went and fought a war do you wish that

01:08:36.080 was you like what andrew are you trying to get my channel canceled what are you trying to do here

01:08:41.600 andrew's trying to get my channel okay and by the way andrew's just joking about all of this

01:08:46.220 oh maybe not i'm funning yeah that's all just funning i do want to try to narrow down a little

01:08:51.660 bit because you mentioned a couple no not red pill oh and we were not this is we were going around

01:08:56.200 the table getting everybody's reaction to that video uh so the one where she said if you make

01:09:04.640 50 000 we'll react to that right after grid one's chat here thank you men value women for

01:09:11.100 chastity providing them with children and peace from the world if you are argumentative high

01:09:18.100 maintenance or simply self-absorbs no good man will have you be better

01:09:23.680 i really like this super chatter by the way thank you good one appreciate it uh so okay we're we're

01:09:32.280 going around the table getting everybody's reaction to the original video that we saw go ahead

01:09:37.840 well i think we start with and we do i want to come back to you a little bit but we'll get

01:09:43.920 everybody's reaction was i gone during this video oh did you not watch was she gone i think so i think

01:09:49.460 so yeah okay i thought you were here when he's referencing the video where the woman was saying 0.99

01:09:54.140 50 000 a month uh well loose pussy energy donated 200 these 304 are high maintenance as fuck they 1.00

01:10:05.160 don't bring shite to the table but expects guys to pay for their life you are not that special 1.00

01:10:10.840 get the fuck out of here hashtag get the rocks hashtag free nick number eight at 18 hashtag free 1.00

01:10:17.540 nick get the rocks yeah abdul yeah get the rock get the rocks i i feel like this might have been 0.99

01:10:23.040 directed at you do you want to respond to i just think it's so funny um you should get your money

01:10:28.520 up and then talk to me okay lp you guys you heard it from her you gotta get your money made

01:10:35.080 realize you just made his point though i really don't care because my life goes on like i'm good

01:10:40.020 with or without the comment yeah i know i'm just saying you realize that you made this point

01:10:44.640 he can win on the internet it's cool so you're saying he's taking a w

01:10:49.360 take your internet win this is real life buddy okay um so the video that we were reacting to

01:10:57.080 essentially she just says if you make fifty thousand dollars as a man you should not date

01:11:01.620 agree disagree why disagree that seems very specific i i guess i don't know the context

01:11:09.900 but i would say disagree anyone should be able there's not i mean there's a broader i think the

01:11:14.080 broader point that's trying to be made is he's saying there's a standard and if you're under

01:11:20.020 this threshold standard for the amount of money which can provide a good material existence for

01:11:24.600 another person that you probably shouldn't be trying to date other people because you can't

01:11:28.660 provide for them that's what the statement actually is about okay um so i believe there would be

01:11:35.340 multiple facets in which you could look at so if it's i mean you should look at age what their

01:11:41.320 intentions are in dating if they're just looking for a partner for fun or if they're looking for a

01:11:46.160 future spouse then then it would be a little more complicated if they're wanting children so

01:11:52.000 there would be multiple things you should look at and it's a broader question i mean if i'm just going

01:11:57.840 to answer it broadly yes you you should date but it would be personalized when you're looking at the

01:12:04.940 other factors yeah i get it i get that you're saying each individual situation is different that's

01:12:10.240 always true but what she's saying she's talking in generalities yeah and she's saying she's saying

01:12:16.120 so from a material view right if you're not able to take care of another person or you're not able

01:12:21.740 to meet whatever the perception of standard is for taking care of another person should you even be

01:12:25.940 dating that's what the that's what the argument basically is gotcha um and we're speaking just

01:12:31.400 materialistically she is okay yeah she is so she's saying fifty thousand dollars where she's at's not a lot

01:12:37.860 a bottle of water is three dollars then you have all these extra expenditures so if you're under this

01:12:43.680 threshold you probably shouldn't be dating that's what she's saying yeah okay so we're speaking

01:12:48.340 generally i'm just going to say yeah you're you should be able to date what about you yeah i think

01:12:53.600 it's baloney what she said um and i would think she would consider me a bottom of the barrel b as she

01:13:00.620 put it she did say bottom of the barrel yeah because uh i only date blue collar gentlemen and some of

01:13:07.200 them make less than fifty thousand dollars and they are good men and i think she's full of it

01:13:12.680 so all right and she's gone what about you i personally think it's an unfair statement um i would

01:13:19.400 actually kind of compare it to what if someone were to make a video like a man were to make a video

01:13:23.900 saying if you're um over 150 pound women don't date lose some weight and well then you can date i feel 0.99

01:13:31.760 like that's not really fair um i mean people could have their own i guess preferences but i don't

01:13:37.520 think people should be shamed or barred from um joining the dating market just because they don't

01:13:43.700 make a certain income any uh other thoughts on this andrew on the video well the the problem is is again

01:13:53.000 these these they're always focusing on this kind of hyper materialist worldview and it's insane to me

01:13:59.840 and so you know this woman's entire prism is based around well if you can't do this for me then go 0.99

01:14:05.280 fuck yourself basically that's what she's saying right and the silliness to it is like it's self-centered 0.99

01:14:11.740 and it's selfish and ultimately the this kind of sense of of uh only me only me only me has led to this 1.00

01:14:21.240 kind of decadence that we're dealing with right now with just an overage of materialism nobody looks at

01:14:26.340 any type of spiritualism they look at nothing behind it's just pure material and so yeah that's

01:14:31.640 what she's speaking to okay cool we got a couple chats here i need to get through we have dave runner 0.98

01:14:37.240 chick in blue you bring nothing to the table but sex you are an overpriced word 1.00

01:14:45.420 do you want to respond to dave runner i love the comment think what you want they're going hard i 0.97

01:14:56.380 said i said that everyone deserves love and companionship i never yeah what does that mean

01:15:02.300 everybody deserves it like no one should be barred from dating if no matter what that's different than

01:15:09.520 deserve what about serial killers wait what you know like if you were okay even you know what's

01:15:16.480 interesting about serial killers is it there's this uh term called habristophilia should you ever start

01:15:24.000 a conversation with you know what's interesting about serial killers yeah should that yeah but there's

01:15:32.920 this there's this thing called habristophilia attraction to i believe like people who are criminals

01:15:37.420 or criminality and this is much more pronounced in women than it is in men women are like not again

01:15:45.280 not all women but women are much more likely to be attracted to men who display criminality than the

01:15:51.480 reverse which i think is interesting what's it called habristophilia habristophilia i believe let me google

01:16:01.140 it i believe it's like a sexual attraction it's like why all the serial killers have they get married in

01:16:06.840 prison and women write them letters and yeah being sexually aroused by a criminal offender is 0.97

01:16:13.980 and it seems to me that women are writing a lot of love notes to serial killers and murderers and 0.98

01:16:21.080 they do do that that's interesting oh we got visual dawn to 200 brian since you style yourself as a

01:16:28.980 world war ii buff name at least two admirals and two ships involved in the battle of midway in the battle

01:16:35.620 of midway what is your favorite world war ii book andrew name three judges in the bible well andrew just

01:16:42.360 got up but okay so two admirable admirable admirables and two ships okay holy fuck i know i have 0.84

01:16:52.000 oh thank you grid one grid one motorsports donated

01:16:55.760 why are these men so mad at me what did i do to get their money up it is the 304 in blue

01:17:02.460 oh wow you can get better for less money trouble and time oh re-evaluate or the only person that

01:17:08.480 will get their money up is the divorce lawyers why did i piss all you men off like what's up 0.79

01:17:13.880 because i got evoked there i vote your anger and i'm glad to their wrath because like i got my bank

01:17:20.460 account is good too anything else is extra i'm not even saying i watch y'all like i'm good

01:17:25.200 oh so okay to answer thank you grid one motorsports visual dawn i have to name two admirals well okay i

01:17:34.900 honestly i admiral nimitz was nimitz an admiral admirable i'm just going to keep saying it's an

01:17:44.020 admirable uh admiral nimitz was that or is it general nimitz i think i i'm sorry guys i'm obviously

01:17:50.640 i obviously know nothing about world war ii um admirable admirables um and then two ships

01:17:58.820 bro how how are you gonna ask me to name two ships guys you think i i my primary focused with

01:18:06.000 my historical research has been the uh the european campaign okay the european theater of war

01:18:14.340 i really didn't study the pacific all that much i was more of a you know the european theater you

01:18:20.360 know i was more interested in that i know a little bit about uh you know the the north african

01:18:25.720 theater of war you know so if you want to quiz me on the north african theater of war i can

01:18:30.400 you know you know suez yeah okay and then what else did you say favorite world war ii book

01:18:39.720 there's a world war what do you mean like are we talking when you say favorite here i'll pull it up

01:18:46.660 again just so actually it's fine but when you're talking favorite world war ii book do you mean

01:18:50.940 fiction or non-fiction because i got some books back there ready to go okay anyways thank you

01:18:58.680 uh by the way with the chats and tts typically you can just we can only do like one question per so

01:19:05.340 and andrew's up right now so uh okay we have candid answers andrew's arguments are circular

01:19:10.540 oh wait i'll wait okay i'll wait till he's back because if andrew actually wants to address this

01:19:15.620 while we're waiting on that hold on guys one sec here oh nick could you put go twitch twitch.tv

01:19:21.520 slash whatever drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a

01:19:27.980 follow and a prime sub if you have one thank you guys for those what's what's up nick clips guys go

01:19:34.120 to our clips channel mods spam this in the chat whatever second guys we're trying to get uh one

01:19:39.760 million subscribers over on my clips channel whatever second we're 75 000 subs away guys we're

01:19:45.800 so close get us get us to one mil on our clips channel thank you guys all right let me get some

01:19:50.820 of these chats out of the way so not out of the way just read them excuse me max is corrupt hey thank

01:19:57.540 you man appreciate it i believe relationships should be built on mutual respect and genuine connection

01:20:01.780 not financial benchmarks i make 185k a year oh good for you man and i would not deal with a financial

01:20:08.160 black hole like you pass do you want to respond to max is corrupt firstly max 185k a year is not

01:20:16.060 that much money secondly i'm not going up to somebody and being like you must make this much

01:20:21.280 money i'm just being like what accent was that it's my real accent what's that what's your real

01:20:27.520 accent it's a bahamian accent it's you know yes like wait can you say it one more time just like

01:20:32.980 that what what i say the way you said it i don't know it come okay i get angry i don't know but i'm

01:20:38.840 just saying like i am not going up to people and asking to see your bank statement like i'm i just

01:20:45.020 know that i'm not going to be with somebody who's a bum that's all 185k is a bum no i never said he's 0.98

01:20:52.320 a bum but i said 185k there's not that much money to be flexing on the internet oh i see i would you date

01:20:57.740 a guy who makes 185k or is that not enough i mean he's like in his 20s to like early 30s maybe

01:21:04.480 wait how old's the guy you're currently dating this is a lot of too much questions whoa whoa whoa

01:21:12.180 whoa how come on oh he's not old at all oh how old well how old is he like early 30s

01:21:18.180 like early 30s can you do that again early 30s oh early 30s and you're 22 right yeah so it's like

01:21:27.700 what the 10 year age gap about somewhere around there okay so wait you but did you say 185k is

01:21:36.160 like is that not a lot if you're 32 for example like if your guy currently was making 180k you

01:21:42.760 wouldn't date him no i wouldn't say i wouldn't date him but i wouldn't think that's a lot of money

01:21:46.060 100 i think that does that put you in like the top one percent of earners if pretty close

01:21:53.200 how expensive la is like that could be gone so fast i mean what's the rent in la like what

01:22:00.960 3 000 for a decent one bedroom you get a decent one bedroom for 3k right yeah decent one bedroom

01:22:08.000 maybe not like super luxury but it'll be decent stuff adds up fast man oh there are actually a lot

01:22:13.380 people living in la who make 100k a year and they're living paycheck to paycheck i mean santa

01:22:17.500 barbara is actually worse than la oh i i would like to point out but because it is california so it is

01:22:25.260 crazy but if your man didn't pay so much for you with fancy things and dates and whatever you guys 0.88

01:22:32.060 would have a lot more money you could invest it you could you know because if you put that money

01:22:36.500 instead of buying a fancy birthday or a fancy dinner put that money into like an investment

01:22:41.780 account you could make a lot more in the end but you don't think if hypothetically whoever said man

01:22:47.520 is you don't think we already have investment accounts like no one's going to go do this if

01:22:50.920 we don't already have the money to save like yeah i mean i suppose but you i mean i'm just if you

01:22:57.320 calculate how much money he spends on pretty frivolous things you could ultimately if you put that

01:23:03.460 like you would have exponentially more money you could buy a house life life is meant to be enjoyed

01:23:07.920 as well it's a balance all right well i just want to say i know you mentioned a lot of people in la

01:23:13.120 are making 100k a year and just barely getting by paycheck to paycheck but if you look at what

01:23:17.960 americans are actually spending their money on um a lot of people are living paycheck to paycheck

01:23:22.120 because they're spending so much on things they don't need but they don't even realize it and then

01:23:26.280 they blame uh oh you know the cost of living is too much and everything but if you go and look at

01:23:31.100 your individual bank statements you'd see how much people are spending on eating out and buying

01:23:35.880 clothes and activities they don't necessarily need when they could be cutting back and saving all that

01:23:40.320 money investing it and that's why so many americans right now are poor and living in you know crazy

01:23:45.660 amounts of credit card debt because of frivolous spending so it's beautiful it's beautiful it's

01:23:52.880 great thank you all right we got more chats here okay that listen sometimes you know we got trolls in

01:23:59.140 the chat you know they're gonna be vulgar but a man of my word if we say we're gonna pull up your

01:24:06.140 chat we're gonna pull up your chat david kinzer says the chicken all caps by the way the chicken 0.95

01:24:13.140 blue is an overpriced his words not mine don't shoot the messenger here prostitute fap fap fap i 0.99

01:24:20.020 don't know why y'all are so angry i literally didn't say anything like that bad you have awoken 0.96

01:24:25.540 their ire and their wrath and their avarice be quiet though all right what let me just get this

01:24:34.740 chat we have andrew's arguments are circular but he seems to stop at the place where it favors his

01:24:40.380 personal word worldview so childish and toxic just trying to stroke your ego you have a lot of growing 1.00

01:24:46.280 up to do so all arguments are circular if you aren't so fucking stupid you know that oh okay all 1.00

01:24:52.840 right there you go candid answer but now that's a candid answer for you candid answer candid answer 1.00

01:24:58.180 all right there you go all right shots fired okay um oh we have visual dawn okay brian which british

01:25:06.120 special forces was unit was founded by david sterling during the north at bro this is wait come on bro

01:25:11.920 andrew name three judge from the bible uh so okay i'll go first here british special forces i don't know

01:25:19.660 what was the question uh name three judges from the bible no what was your question

01:25:23.960 special forces unit founded by david sterling during the north african campaign i have no idea

01:25:30.140 either

01:25:30.500 just depends on specificity what are the british are those what what's the name for the military for

01:25:39.480 the i think in world war ii they're referred to as commandos for the british army

01:25:43.980 mm-hmm i don't know well they have the sas i'm getting schooled they had the sas and then i think

01:25:49.800 they had commando units but okay uh i'm not sure he was asking about three judges from the bible

01:25:57.180 yeah um samson gideon

01:26:02.560 i don't i don't know maybe elon elon maybe

01:26:08.440 okay yeah all right we have infinity singularity infinite singularity excuse me thank you good to

01:26:15.880 see you back in the chat to the critic your argument against andrew's fallacious relying on

01:26:20.080 ad hominem attacks rather than logical refutation accusing him of circular circularity while

01:26:26.940 engaging in non sequiturs reveals the lack of substantive substantive critique yeah could

01:26:33.100 could have at least made an argument so that we could have both been circular about it right

01:26:36.740 candid answers you you could have you could have didn't happen i'm not even mad at candid

01:26:44.840 answers he's trying to engage yeah all right i'm trying to remember where we left off i think

01:26:50.780 you might have gotten up when we were going around the table on the fifty thousand dollar thing

01:26:55.520 do you have anything you want to weigh in on this um i don't think that's a good reason

01:27:03.280 like arbiter for whether you should be with someone i think it's more about your connection with somebody

01:27:08.860 and then money but obviously if somebody's not making any money and they're not moving towards

01:27:15.520 that then you are going to need money to support a family to support yourself sure okay so going back

01:27:22.860 around the table wait wait wait before you get up let me just ask and go around the table on this

01:27:26.520 um we got security yeah we got so you mentioned earlier that you want princess treatment correct

01:27:33.280 or to be provided for to them some extent okay oh hold on donated two hundred dollars hi i'm envy and

01:27:42.220 fairly new here thank you by all means you may sneeze as my presence bless you all so brian

01:27:48.360 might you in detail explain hoflation i've heard you've a wealth of supporting info about it

01:27:54.440 i feel like this is kind of uh yo thank you for the uh tts appreciate it hoflation hoflation

01:28:01.760 basically i mean the the way i've had it explained to me and kind of my understanding about it

01:28:07.100 is the example i like to give is basically oh my god it's something i haven't used this term in such

01:28:16.100 in a minute so the grandfather god i'm so i'm sorry guys i'm getting a new job i'm a terrible

01:28:22.240 host um i get it i see your comments okay oh thank you candy dance has donated two hundred i'll get

01:28:28.640 back to it there is a difference between circular and tautological finish the book next time instead

01:28:34.840 of stopping when you think it proved your point what is what does the tautology have to do with

01:28:39.180 anything i just said yeah what's the tautology there was nothing i just said that was tautological

01:28:43.260 and ultimately basically all arguments are circular you're still to be perfectly candid 1.00

01:28:48.260 give you a candid answer come on a fucking idiot but wait wait hang on you're a fucking idiot and 1.00

01:28:55.080 you're stupid there's your tautology wow okay shots fired okay is that tautological enough for you 1.00

01:29:01.220 all right um wait so okay hoflation all right base oh my god i can't it's not even coming to me guys 1.00

01:29:08.820 but basically that it's something like men have to work oh okay it's men have to work 10 times as

01:29:16.480 hard as their grandfathers did for women who are 20 times as worse as their grandmothers that's 1.00

01:29:23.340 hoflation that's hoflation mike davis hey this is mike davis thank you my friend wilson got the energy

01:29:33.680 of an overnight drive-through worker girl's financial advice is bs the trick isn't to spend 1.00

01:29:40.100 less but make more forget these hoes be like mike davis who married the money god bro why is the 1.00

01:29:46.460 the tts to the panel the tts has been very you know a little rough tonight they've been a little vulgar

01:29:54.280 a little mean mike davis he's usually very polite with the women he works at a burger king

01:29:59.820 so he yeah okay thank you he's sorry he owns multiple burger kings i'll know do we still have

01:30:09.900 that photo of him anywhere it's been a while since we've pulled it up nick if you can find that uh i

01:30:14.560 need so visual dawn does it or wait no who asked the question about the hoflation uh yeah it was uh

01:30:20.460 oh it was nvme thank you yes basically um

01:30:24.280 hoflation

01:30:27.620 here okay here's another way to look at it basically

01:30:32.400 women are always going to be attracted to traditional treatment from men and there's tons 0.99

01:30:38.360 of these clips of like liberal women who are outwardly liberal they got color in their hair 1.00

01:30:43.060 they describe themselves as progressive or liberal or democrat but they always they make

01:30:48.380 these tiktoks and they're like well i'm a liberal and i'm a feminist but like i i want the conservative

01:30:54.580 guy who doesn't have conservative values because i like the kind of treatment they provide to me

01:31:00.360 their providers their protectors etc they're going to fall into their more traditional role when it

01:31:05.540 comes to dating but you have these women who despite desiring traditional treatment from men

01:31:11.720 want to be modern traditional women they want to take 1.00

01:31:16.200 revealing and provocative photos and blast them on the internet whether it's instagram or whether

01:31:21.280 it's doing sex work whether it's only fans they want to go out to nightclubs and dress up all skimpy

01:31:26.120 they want to have a bunch of casual sex in their 20s and then in their 30s they want to finally settle down 0.89

01:31:31.720 after they've had their fun and have racked up massive body counts and then find a nice guy

01:31:37.140 to settle down with um and that is hoflation

01:31:42.180 okay nobody all right it's gonna be pulling teeth tonight okay um wait what were oh pull up mike davis

01:31:54.480 did you get it did you know were you able to find the photo oh guys this is mike davis look at he's a he

01:31:59.620 works at burger king he owns like 100 150 burger kings in the uh greater tri-state area of new york

01:32:06.780 that area so yeah he's uh you know you know he's doing well all right thank you mike davis good to

01:32:11.120 see in the chat we have rick bungle here brixton do you have any dating advice for gay men would love to 0.69

01:32:15.660 hear well i don't know what's going on tonight i have some don't be gay jesus you're gonna get me 0.76

01:32:22.820 canceled oh well i mean that would be my advice okay um from the women on the panel as well 1.00

01:32:29.560 dating is extremely hard for gay men is it or are you just this is probably some fucking troll 1.00

01:32:34.560 thing i hear gay men have it maybe it's pretty easy when it comes to getting sex with like 1.00

01:32:39.640 grinder that shit i hear it's hard to get a committed it's hard to get a committed relationship 1.00

01:32:45.320 that's what i've heard i thought it was i thought dating for gay men they had it pretty easy 1.00

01:32:50.220 i don't know i don't know about dating i would have asked my brother

01:32:54.060 well uh what do you any dating advice for for gay men he's asking me specifically as if i would

01:33:03.780 have some sort of insight cooked in this uh i would say uh you know rick you ought to uh

01:33:12.220 wear a bunch of flannels that'll do it for you okay thank you rick that will get you all the men

01:33:20.120 uh they like the the uh what's it called the lumberjack thank you okay here let me pull this

01:33:29.740 up visual dawn last chance brian who are the two opposing generals in the world war ii north african

01:33:35.280 campaign ladies on the panel name three countries besides the united states canada or mexico i'll 0.60

01:33:39.540 answer after they go ahead oh luxembourg oman italy russia germany and china greece turkey morocco

01:33:53.080 uh ghana kenya and morocco sorry what was the question i'm sorry

01:34:01.620 just three countries at all yeah u.s canada mexico yeah okay um italy france spain uh algeria libya

01:34:13.660 tunisia okay that was good okay so uh rommel right rommel was yeah that was the desert fox yeah desert

01:34:26.320 fox i don't know who the british or i mean i initially i believe it was primarily uh the british

01:34:33.540 forces in north africa i think oh my god that's jesus later on i'm pretty sure the united states

01:34:41.180 donated two hundred dollars i only know rommel you can tell i got to andrew because he isn't even 0.98

01:34:46.300 trying to sound smart the more you slam me the more childish you sound your poor wife you fake being 1.00

01:34:53.340 a christian to feel superior well i mean anything else you just literally sent in what six hundred 0.97

01:35:01.020 dollars because you're mad at me i have this effect the tts is they want smoke from everybody on the

01:35:09.900 they i'm getting attacked for my apparent lack of world war ii historical information they're attacking

01:35:15.140 andrew they're attacking everybody on the panel so okay they want blood for the blood they want yeah 0.99

01:35:19.960 dude the tts wants fucking blood tonight holy shit yeah i feel a little left out i was thinking 0.99

01:35:25.740 oh don't oh no you have you have summoned i'm warning you you've just summoned the trolls i've 0.99

01:35:34.940 trained for this i'm good you're ready for the onslaught that's about yes my my boyfriend and i

01:35:39.480 have been practicing at home oh okay he's he's just been degrading you well i mean that's a little

01:35:46.640 extreme but he's preparing me actually that's what we should tell the girls like within our

01:35:52.180 pre-show information we send out by the way if you have like a boyfriend or something or like you

01:35:56.760 you're on a discord just have them degrade you for five hours that's to prepare for the whatever

01:36:02.280 podcast that's what we should start telling the women uh okay so i'm waiting until she comes back

01:36:10.820 from the bathroom i think she's um probably doing um peyote no just kidding um something in there uh 0.98

01:36:18.320 i was gonna i was asking about princess treatment but some tts has come through but

01:36:22.100 do you want princess treatment going around the table what does that entail well that's what i was

01:36:29.300 going to ask her what what that is but what's your sense of princess treatment like isn't that

01:36:34.280 subjective i don't know what that well what's your sense of receiving princess treatment like but

01:36:41.800 like what is that i don't understand the question like to be treated like a princess just like like 0.96

01:36:48.100 provided for i don't know i don't do that shit with girls so i don't know you shouldn't ask me 0.97

01:36:55.300 i mean we'll have to ask your friend once she's back she's lingering in the bathroom but 0.99

01:37:00.880 yeah yeah yeah we're looking for you

01:37:04.000 oh my god bro it's pulling teeth tonight okay um

01:37:13.560 somebody mentioned something about crazy things oh that was for you too um okay you mentioned

01:37:21.160 princess treatment um what does that mean princess treatment i think it's just a term for

01:37:29.480 being treated well by your partner scoot your mic to the edge of the table you scoot your mic to

01:37:35.560 the very edge please go ahead i think it's just a term for being treated well by your partner you know

01:37:40.620 being treated like a queen and being honored and attended to by him you should be should all women

01:37:47.920 be treated like queens if you're not doing the things that you should do um no but if you're a loyal

01:37:56.460 submissive woman um and you make your partner happy yes you should do you think all women are 0.91

01:38:02.620 queens i think every woman in their birthright are queens but some women don't act like it and in 1.00

01:38:10.640 turn they're not treated like it it's weird but there's you know you mentioned princess you mentioned

01:38:15.440 queen these are all things related to like royalty and it occurs to me that like most people who

01:38:21.540 it's the the whole queen princess thing is like sort of the mirror opposite of like guys who

01:38:27.300 call themselves like alpha that's like my view of it and it's like come on you know queen princess

01:38:36.160 let's be honest all these girls who claim to be queens and princesses at best they're maybe the court 1.00

01:38:42.540 jester i don't think like you know all it means is just fine you're from like a lower house i've

01:38:51.040 recently watched dune you know like in dune you have the greater houses the lands rats you know the

01:38:56.220 lands rat so you have the great houses and the lesser houses even then and most of these girls are 1.00

01:39:00.980 probably just who claim to be queens or princesses are probably just peons in the grand scheme of you

01:39:07.340 know the you know doing houses now you know the spice trade like arrakis you know yeah like what

01:39:13.580 do you guys think about like dating on arrakis like it's kind of like you have the i'm sorry guys

01:39:19.820 what does that mean arrakis arrakis my dune yeah have you got you know dune timothy chalvin frank

01:39:27.060 herbert no sorry i haven't seen best-selling science fiction book there's a lot of blue-eyed people on

01:39:34.880 doing good times okay um i shouldn't really be i shouldn't be upset that people don't get my like

01:39:41.780 kind of retarded candidance has donated two hundred dollars honestly all good long time 0.86

01:39:49.100 listener and i make solid seven figures a year lately the conversation has been turning malicious

01:39:54.800 oh the male guests are condescending and it doesn't help engage positively that's been andrew

01:40:00.440 wait what i'm kidding all right fair enough candid answer oh he's nice he's a nice guy all right

01:40:08.120 thank you candid answers we'll try to make it more positive i'm gonna make it more positive okay let's

01:40:12.540 make it more positive tonight guys it's not it's not my fault it's the tts it's been a little uh little

01:40:18.640 you guys have been a little goblins the tts tonight eh uh goblins okay where were we we're talking

01:40:26.000 about the princess treatment yeah like court jesters at best you know well i think every

01:40:33.120 woman should just find a guy that makes her feel like royalty you know that's your job as a woman 1.00

01:40:37.340 to pick select the right guy so you treat the men like kings then yes and obey them yes even if you

01:40:47.940 don't want to do what they're saying most of the time oh well then they have that's not treating them

01:40:52.440 like a king but i've never encountered a man that makes me do something i'm uncomfortable with

01:40:57.080 doing never no well i wouldn't i've never here's an example yeah i don't want you do you go out to

01:41:07.180 bars and clubs with your girlfriends not really anymore no when's the last time you went to a bar

01:41:13.980 or club i was at the super bowl last weekend i went to vegas with your boyfriend no with my cousin

01:41:21.320 and her people uh i mean super bowl is not a great example but like let's say your boyfriend

01:41:26.460 you were wanting to go out to a bar in that club your boyfriend was like no i don't want you going

01:41:31.740 out to bars and clubs i would respect that all right there you go show's over guys thanks for

01:41:36.940 tuning into the whatever podcast all right she agrees okay um here let's go okay so princess treatment

01:41:43.120 um did you define it was like you got money that was willed to you and he said yeah give it to me so

01:41:52.200 i can invest it in something that you don't want me to invest it into no yeah so according to every man

01:41:58.580 i'm broke my money is my money and his money is our money oh you missed that nick okay uh can you say

01:42:05.980 it again my money is my money and his money is our money you know that's a meme right like that's

01:42:13.200 literally a you're not saying that ironically are you i've heard people say it but i just believe

01:42:18.380 that's true you know you shouldn't be in a woman's pocket i've heard men say that unironically before

01:42:23.720 too like they co they they they said that exact thing like her money is her money but my money is

01:42:30.540 most men say that in like a dismissive sort of way 100 serious like i've heard three men say that

01:42:38.800 recently being my money three men say that yeah no weirdly enough yeah like that exact quote like in

01:42:45.100 the past like six months i want to add also i've also heard that's been said by men um but i also

01:42:51.220 want to give context that i am from a different culture so it is kind of more acceptable yeah no can

01:42:58.000 you tilt your yeah yeah um so in terms of the context i've heard it and it's a little bit

01:43:04.000 different since in my country that's kind of just in societal expectation wait what's your country

01:43:10.400 i'm from algeria well you've you were born there no no uh i'm born in canada but i was raised by

01:43:20.620 my both my parents who are algerian and they grew up there so they raised me with algerian i see

01:43:27.680 and i've also spent a lot of time in algeria okay got it okay so the princess treatment you you also

01:43:34.940 said something like five you want five thousand to ten thousand dollars a month not they never said i

01:43:40.420 want that i said there's the activities and stuff that me and said partner do probably would probably

01:43:48.800 be around there you know i wonder grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars women 0.60

01:43:56.300 hold the keys to sex men hold the keys to relationship you are not choosing a man he is

01:44:02.900 approving or disqualifying you this is why feminism has failed you repent the patriarchy welcomes you 1.00

01:44:10.060 thank you grid one the repent the patriarchy welcomes all of you okay thank you appreciate 0.95

01:44:17.240 it um let's see here am i gonna get i feel like people are so dumb they're gonna maybe i maybe i 0.86

01:44:23.020 should be more like optically aware i feel like people are so dumb they're gonna assume that he's

01:44:29.320 wearing like a world war ii military uniform and then like but he's not your thoughts andrew

01:44:37.340 i'm i mean it's pretty pretty fucking awesome honestly it looks cool right yeah i like the 0.96

01:44:45.000 uniform it's a chilean military uniform but i feel like people are so dumb oh why do they have 0.88

01:44:50.660 uh you know a german world war ii uniform you know because people think the he's got the field 0.57

01:45:00.680 field gray it's the field gray all right all right whatever i mean you're in it now right yeah it's

01:45:07.760 done there's nothing you do about it now he has to stay there the rest of the show yeah uh by the

01:45:13.140 way rick rick the uh so read is over 100 tts is over 200 um thank you though oh nick were you able

01:45:20.180 to pull that up i accidentally hid rick's you'll have to find it in the live you'll have to find

01:45:27.400 it in the live okay princess treatment uh so the 5 000 to 10 000 that's the activities that would

01:45:36.680 come with it you know like like i said like if you and your partner go on vacations frequently or if

01:45:42.160 you guys go out to eat or you know like if you guys are getting like spa days you know just life

01:45:49.220 life activities would you date a guy who wasn't able to provide you with those things

01:45:52.560 no okay because i think it's difficult like i think once you've been exposed to a certain standard

01:46:03.280 it's kind of difficult to go back that's true now if i wouldn't say no because now sometimes you meet

01:46:09.960 somebody and you're just infatuated with them or you see a lot of potential in them but they have

01:46:14.860 to be extra amazing though they have to be extra extra amazing i mean that's it's actually you make

01:46:18.860 a very good point with that is and this is a differential that i've made a point that i've

01:46:23.040 made before so one of the differences between men and women is men are able and you guys are

01:46:30.440 feel free to weigh in on this after i make my point so if a man tries to hit on a girl hook up with

01:46:39.140 a girl outside of his league instant rejection like you're not getting you're not getting a

01:46:44.760 five sec or a five minute conversation you're not getting a date you're not getting you're 0.59

01:46:49.640 certainly not getting casual sex you're not getting anything more men if we try to let's say

01:46:55.160 we want to try to sleep with a girl outside of our league instant rejection that's not the case for 1.00

01:47:00.160 women women can very easily sleep with men outside of their league and that can be on looks 1.00

01:47:05.440 it can be on socioeconomic status it can be uh general status for example a woman who's

01:47:14.080 got 500 followers on instagram she's a nobody can go and hook up with a professional

01:47:19.460 nba player nfl player whatever so long as she's attract even averagely attractive she i'm home 1.00

01:47:26.120 it helps if she's good looking right so what ends up happening is you'll have like a 19 year old 0.99

01:47:33.240 girl in college who if she's so inclined can go fuck a guy who's a millionaire who can provide her 1.00

01:47:39.840 with a certain lifestyle or she can fuck a famous dude she can fuck a guy who's high status she might 1.00

01:47:46.140 she may very well not ever be able to get a commitment from that guy so you mentioned well 0.99

01:47:51.860 there's no going back so how does a 19 year old girl go from dating an nba player who's flying her out

01:47:58.200 and he's you know whatever the case is he's got a really nice place he lives alone heated bathroom

01:48:04.600 floors no roommates to oh the 20 year old guy at my college who lives in a dorm who's got a roommate

01:48:14.180 not a housemate a roommate how is she going to go back who's got you know how is she going to go back 0.99

01:48:19.140 to that you really can't yeah you're fucked you can't so what do you do when you're 35 you should 0.99

01:48:24.700 be married by then yeah but i mean if you're not i mean why can't you go back well you can't i mean 0.99

01:48:32.280 that's the question like why can't like why is it an issue if you go back well you can but my theory

01:48:38.180 on this is is that once you've dated a certain caliber of man you're that's kind of going to be your

01:48:46.680 benchmark whether conscious or subconscious and then the guy who you end up perhaps being with the

01:48:53.500 guy who you can actually get commitment from you're going to almost hold that guy in contempt

01:48:58.740 because you almost feel like you're settling when in reality despite your ability to procure casual

01:49:04.440 sexual relationships with men who are really attractive or who have a lot of money or who

01:49:10.280 have high status of course these men would never commit to you the guy who's actually on your level

01:49:15.980 you're going to think that because you were able to secure those men for albeit casual sex you think

01:49:22.100 that that's your that's your level that's your league but that's not your league your league as

01:49:28.140 a woman is the man that you can get commitment from the man that you can get marriage from not the guy 1.00

01:49:33.760 who you can fuck because you can fuck a really high status dude you can fuck a rich guy you can fuck a 0.99

01:49:40.420 really hot dude does not mean you'll be able to get commitment from a guy who's on that level 0.99

01:49:46.040 that's very true i can attest to that um i unfortunately have a very high body count

01:49:53.540 and a lot of that happened in my 20s because i slept with a lot of gorgeous men admittedly um but 0.96

01:50:00.920 they didn't want to wife me or girlfriend me because let's be honest i was a fat slut sorry like 0.99

01:50:09.000 so i have i think now at 35 and unmarried i did not see that coming i'm so sorry you're disappointed 0.82

01:50:20.680 i was blindsided yeah i well and i think that's partly because you know i had to get real with

01:50:27.520 myself and be honest about where do i fit within this market because my market is based off of what

01:50:33.840 do the men that i want want and do i meet that yes or no if yes great if no i need to change my

01:50:40.060 expectations well aren't men who are usually like making like more or in a higher status or something

01:50:46.840 like like say like a basketball player or something like they're used to partying and like going out

01:50:52.540 and stuff so like they're not really looking for commitment and if they are it usually comes with

01:50:58.460 with um i don't know the word but like can you scoot your mic this way a little bit like

01:51:04.520 infidelity infidelity yeah and like which then like the woman usually has to make a choice to be okay 0.99

01:51:12.900 with that or not are you saying that i don't know where i was going with it there was a point to it

01:51:18.520 well are you saying that some women would prefer the divided attention of a hyper attractive hyper 1.00

01:51:24.540 successful guy versus the 100 percent attention of like a normal average guy no i was just saying

01:51:32.360 that like that um men who like make more money and stuff like oh where am i going with that have

01:51:42.060 options they have options and like they're not usually like in my opinion they aren't looking for

01:51:48.760 that commitment or that seriousness like right away you know um they're they're more inclined to go 0.99

01:51:54.520 fuck around just like us women can be more inclined to go fuck around is that is that the 1.00

01:51:59.040 case for you more inclined to fuck around no i'm not more inclined to fuck well that's what you said 1.00

01:52:03.620 you said women just like us women who can be more inclined to in general terms do you think women 1.00

01:52:08.660 are some women or well of course some women do you think women are inclined to fuck around 1.00

01:52:14.240 um i think both men and women are inclined to fuck around i think that it comes from both 0.99

01:52:20.040 gender and the high value or high earning men they have like untamable lifestyles like you're 1.00

01:52:26.680 gonna have to get used to like them like you can't tell them what to do like they're gonna

01:52:30.600 be out till when they want to be out their friends are probably cheaters um the instagram following

01:52:37.960 goes crazy the instagram following goes like like the the girls that they follow

01:52:43.400 you'll have a heart attack don't even go look through it um never look through their phone

01:52:47.980 why would you want that like you have to like just like mentally like shut off that part if you

01:52:53.580 want to for most men who make a certain amount of money yeah you gotta shut that off well i think

01:52:57.840 it's an i don't care how much money you make i think it's a major l as a dude to be following

01:53:01.800 a bunch of instagram chicks oh they're following him back cool that's the that's the bad part

01:53:08.800 i would i mean i don't know maybe i'm weird when it comes to social media but i don't follow like

01:53:13.320 anybody on social media that's good i'll follow dudes i don't follow chicks like i mean i think

01:53:18.660 it's super weird though when like you got dudes who are just following a bunch of girls that's kind

01:53:22.700 of weird i agree i agree but i'm just saying this is what i've experienced and observed those simps

01:53:27.680 though so what it's no it's tough good times wait okay so we're going i'm trying to remember what

01:53:34.260 we're going around the table on i don't know i feel like i was kind of treatment we were talking

01:53:38.740 about princess treatment anybody who here wants princess treatment just a yes or no sure sure

01:53:44.540 yes yes yep no look if please speak into the microphone yes but i don't qualify okay

01:53:53.980 my husband treats me like a princess i would say so i like it all right yes it's beautiful beautiful

01:54:02.820 okay good good all right you also said crazy things you've seen crazy things in la because

01:54:09.060 when we were initially asking you about the five to ten thousand dollars you said well whoa there's

01:54:13.020 way crazier you know arrangements um what have you heard what have i heard and what have i what's

01:54:19.880 like the craziest maybe not the craziest arrangement but like um so i don't know this this girl

01:54:26.200 personally does isabella have a crazy arrangement no no no no crazy arrangements isabella i don't know

01:54:31.580 this girl personally she's a friend of a friend but um we were talking about the other day about

01:54:35.840 how for christmas like she got mad at her boyfriend because he got her a g-wagon and she wanted a 0.78

01:54:40.240 lamb truck and then he left her she left him that bastard and she took the g-wagon wait did you tweet 1.00

01:54:47.200 about this no i didn't tweet about this you didn't tweet about the g-wagon no i didn't tweet about this 0.99

01:54:51.680 i maybe i saw something else on twitter some girl was like he just really fucked up on that one and 0.94

01:54:56.040 he's like really upset about it yeah huh that's insane shame on him shame he should have came with 0.69

01:55:02.420 that lamb truck he should have came with the year okay good times good times i'm gonna get into my

01:55:09.280 show notes here uh we got let's see some of you were so kind as to provide some pre-show notes uh

01:55:17.800 actually the last thing here for you hayley you said how you wanted to hallie yes oh like hallie

01:55:25.180 there yeah sorry about that oh we have grid one here grid one motorsports donated two hundred

01:55:31.060 dollars as a high value married dude i have never cheated never cheated three hundred and four in

01:55:37.160 blue is completely californicated you need to get out if you want a happy life no high value man

01:55:43.380 does anything you describe those are f boys oh thank you so grid one here grid one here there

01:55:50.620 there's some dispute one's fucking awesome and it's true it is it is some bizarre california 0.89

01:55:57.040 mindset as well and yeah best way to get happy in california is to get out of california

01:56:02.220 i think it's time we got to move the podcast out of here 0.95

01:56:05.880 oh god okay it's a fascist uniform no no no hold on i i first off it's a prussian it's a prussian

01:56:16.380 you pull it up normally we don't uh chilean or not it's a fast fascist uniform morales chile was 0.82

01:56:23.220 the terminus of the rat lines the chilean army was stacked no no first off chile chile has a rich 0.63

01:56:30.660 history of taking from the prussian military uh you know tradition so so the the chilean prussian

01:56:41.800 genesis predates world war ii i will have you know sir uh anyways you can hide that but i should

01:56:48.680 i should maybe have a another thought if if i want him should we have him throw on a world war

01:56:53.740 one military uniform would that be i don't know maybe it looks soviet does it look a little soviet

01:57:00.940 it might look a little i bet the bet none of them would care if it was a communist uniform

01:57:04.760 yeah what if it was what if it was like uh you know okay all right uh you wanted to talk 50 50

01:57:13.040 in relationships i assume you're not in favor of i'm not in favor of 50 let's go around the table on

01:57:17.520 that 50 50 in relationships agree yay nay um i used to be very 50 50 and then i like i met other people

01:57:29.980 who not that they didn't allow that but i guess they made more money than me so i couldn't really

01:57:36.140 make it 50 50 and they offered to pay for more things so i right just kind of was okay with it being

01:57:42.220 like 70 30 70 30 um yeah but if i was with someone and they specifically told me they wanted it to be

01:57:50.300 50 50 i would be okay with that but like for example the guy i'm dating right now like it's definitely

01:57:55.980 not 50 50 it's probably more like 70 30. do you guys live together well no you've been dating for a

01:58:01.160 week i assume you don't live together no okay so when it's 70 30 like he buys dinner you buy dessert

01:58:08.600 type shit or um honestly it's well it's 100 no it's probably like more close to like 75 25 but he 0.75

01:58:17.620 just he offers a lot more like he will pay okay for example like we went to vegas um i covered the 0.96

01:58:25.500 hotel for the trip he covered almost all the food okay and drinks

01:58:31.400 okay so you know like what he paid for was more than what i paid for for the hotel but it was still

01:58:39.860 like i still contributed a little bit you've been dating for a week how did oh right the gym story

01:58:46.760 that's right that's right yeah or it's been like two and a half in the sauna yeah it's been over two

01:58:50.800 weeks and you just went to vegas like week one no we were already like hanging out like we weren't

01:58:57.040 an official relationship but we were hanging out oh how long were you hanging out for um two months

01:59:03.200 before we made it official oh so it's only but so you were like hooking up with him and stuff before

01:59:08.780 we were going on dates so hooking up i mean first we just went on dates like to eat or something

01:59:18.280 your friends snitching on you totally no it's just the way she said we went on dates

01:59:23.220 dates no like we we would go out to eat we went to like din tai feng and then then he'd drop you off

01:59:30.840 and give you a ass out hug at the end of the day then that nothing that was it no but like it's 0.76

01:59:36.260 like you're officially boyfriend and girlfriend as of one week ago two and a half weeks ago excuse 0.90

01:59:43.080 me two and a half oh wait okay getting different stuff here but or no wait you're right you did say 0.99

01:59:49.000 two weeks my i got my notes mixed up guys first off don't talk in a fucking sauna never fucking talk 0.98

01:59:55.280 in the sauna guys it's just it's just rude and the other people were there other people in the sauna 0.99

02:00:01.320 or was it just you and that oh my god no there's everyone's always talking in there really like i've

02:00:05.940 met a bunch of people in there i met some random like youtubers and tiktok how big is a sauna it's a

02:00:10.980 big is it a big sauna it's probably like that like what like this you could feel like 10 10 people

02:00:16.160 yeah i've been in a sauna like that you don't talk in the sauna with you know you don't do it it's it's

02:00:23.680 bad sauna can we google if it's bad bad sauna etiquette hold on talking talking it's like

02:00:30.880 talking in an elevator hold on it's worse than talking in an elevator because in an elevator 0.98

02:00:35.080 you get out after 10 seconds in a sauna you're trapped in there you're sweating it's fucking 0.99

02:00:40.360 miserable hold on talking in sauna etiquette avoid hold on i got some fucking etiquette here on saunas 0.99

02:00:49.840 avoid talking loudly or engaging in any other noisy activity that may disrupt the tranquility 0.96

02:00:55.460 tranquility of the sauna

02:00:57.840 let me see sauna etiquette please be as quiet as possible they say quiet

02:01:05.060 talk talking in the steam room slash sauna is rude uh i'm there's some reddit posts on this sauna

02:01:12.720 etiquette 101 uh this is being slightly quiet quiet no there's there's a lot of people saying

02:01:20.540 here let me ask the chat chat pull up the chat nick yo chat those of you who saw no one in the chat

02:01:25.780 one in the chat if it's rude to talk in the sauna two in the chat if it's normal it's cool to talk in

02:01:31.320 the sauna one in the chat if it's rude to talk in the sauna tune the chat if it's

02:01:35.720 it's okay i see a lot of rudes is it rude how about just rude not rude rude not rude is it rude to

02:01:43.960 talk in the sauna not rude a lot of ones it's a lot of a lot of ones i think it's rude a lot more

02:01:51.320 ones than there are twos the worst thing is like someone will come into the sauna it's it's not as bad

02:01:58.480 if it's like people i still don't think like if it's two people talking and they know each other that's 1.00

02:02:03.940 still bad but if somebody starts talking to you and i'm trying to be quiet in there fuck you 0.99

02:02:10.660 that happens like almost every day so you'll be in the sauna and somebody will start talking to you 0.99

02:02:17.180 what where do you what hellscape of a gym do you go to 24 hour fitness of course

02:02:23.580 join a ymca 0.98

02:02:26.560 join a ymca or some equinox or some shit 24 hours you really have some really strong opinions about 0.98

02:02:36.240 this sauna thing it's not very i remember i was plagued i would go into the sauna first off these 0.99

02:02:41.180 idiots fucking let me tell you about the sauna for a little second here guys very related to dating okay 1.00

02:02:45.860 get this right you these fucking idiots will be like so fucking stupid they'll like leave the door 1.00

02:02:52.740 open so just all the cold air oh i forgot to close the door you fucking idiot and then and then 1.00

02:02:59.300 i i went in the dry sauna there's a there was a dry sauna steam sauna these fucking idiots would come 1.00

02:03:06.720 in there's a sign that says don't put water on the dry and they would bring in their water bottles and 0.99

02:03:12.580 start pouring it that's why i have a sauna in my house now i just i had i dropped 3k for

02:03:20.260 for this was years ago i just couldn't do the public sauna anymore and i kept getting sick i

02:03:26.780 think i don't know it's breathing in that hot air half naked men it's and women 0.63

02:03:33.380 i wouldn't date i would if a woman talked in the sauna if she told me if i was 0.99

02:03:39.620 let me double down on this if i was married to a woman if i was married to a woman for 10 years 0.96

02:03:45.380 and then like we just never sauna together and we were on vacation and we get into the sauna and

02:03:50.340 she starts talking to me in a public sauna divorce i would divorce her if she started talking to me in 1.00

02:03:56.000 the sauna that's how fucking ruthless i am what what did the sauna ever do to you it's not about 0.96

02:04:04.500 the sauna it's about the people guns don't kill people what traumatic people experience have you had 0.94

02:04:10.060 people talking people talking in the sauna it was very traumatic you get these you get these guys 0.92

02:04:16.540 coming in start telling me their fucking life story in the sauna and they start out oh what do you do 0.97

02:04:21.840 for work i'm like i'm done yeah they're just being friendly well if you really don't want to talk to 0.99

02:04:29.740 anyone that's when you put your airpods in people do that the sauna all the time i didn't have i don't

02:04:35.160 want to put that into the sauna they're going to melt they don't melt okay fine they don't melt but

02:04:40.020 i don't know i need my ears clear of any obstruction when i'm in the sauna okay i need to in case anyone

02:04:47.320 tries to attack me in the sauna i need my faculties i need to hear any threats i have a solution you

02:04:53.740 should just those who don't want to talk should have a special sign for the sauna that says no talking

02:04:59.160 no that should be the default okay it should be the default of the sauna nobody should talk if you go in 0.99

02:05:04.700 there with your friend you shouldn't talk to your friends i don't want to hear about your fucking 1.00

02:05:08.860 adventures the week before oh you're going to talk in the sauna oh no shut up this is very 1.00

02:05:16.120 anti-social sauna behavior right i'm an introvert okay i can't stand these inconsiderate sauna people

02:05:22.940 okay moving on what were we talking about i don't remember okay we got a chat we said 50 50 no

02:05:28.560 brixton i'd love to hear the young man military uniform and his take on dating and politics we need to

02:05:33.340 hear his opinions he actually doesn't speak english he's from chile he's a chilean national so he he

02:05:39.580 can um he only speaks spanish i'm sorry rick um i wish i could oblige you thank you though appreciate

02:05:49.500 it uh we okay let me get through some of my wait let me just check here okay we're gonna get through

02:05:55.960 some pre-show notes that everybody provided we talked about the cheating and relationships thing

02:06:01.900 are high valued men allowed to cheat do you think they are wait does your guy you're seeing he he

02:06:08.140 fucks other women is what you're saying not that i'm aware of um you know we've had these conversations 1.00

02:06:15.640 though and basically what i what i've been told slash my understanding is that um cheating is not 0.99

02:06:23.420 cheating if sorry cheating is not cheating if they're able to tell you beforehand or give you

02:06:30.060 or have an honest and open conversation so you're in an open relationship no this is not me there's not

02:06:36.940 i've just been i've been told this by a lot of uh i guess high value men you know they want to be able to

02:06:42.060 tell their wife that they've cheated they're just trying to fool you with that that's me i don't i don't

02:06:48.380 stand by it but you know well if you okay i mean this is where i certainly disagree with like the red

02:06:56.060 pill is if you've made a representation to your partner that you are monogamous and that you're

02:07:05.820 faithful and loyal and you go and have sex with another woman one that is definitely definitionally 0.99

02:07:12.060 definitionally cheating uh and it's wrong but some of these guys will sort of i don't know if 0.74

02:07:19.100 the terms of mott and bailey but or shifting the goalposts but they'll say well no no no no no

02:07:25.420 that's not what i'm saying i'm saying i'm up front about this i expect loyalty from them but i am going

02:07:31.660 to uh i tell them that i'm not going to be loyal to them sexually which i mean seems i've heard some of

02:07:40.140 the people in the red pill space make varying points about this and but they will say that for

02:07:45.900 example that i mean it's actually a good argument that men and women cheat for different reasons

02:07:51.420 that's that's something that can be talked about but i also heard that um men are able to cheat 0.98

02:07:56.620 without emotional attachment and then if women cheat it's not emotional or that you mean it is emotional

02:08:02.860 yeah yeah and then they have then they'll have to break up well yeah i do think i i do think there

02:08:10.140 can be differences right like a guy could be totally checked out of the relationship if he's cheating

02:08:15.820 or he could i think he could still um it might not i just think it's wrong altogether yeah i'm not i'm

02:08:22.620 not recommending cheating but uh i've definitely heard like if if you've told your girlfriend or wife

02:08:31.100 that you're going to be monogamous and loyal and you have sex with another woman that's still very 0.54

02:08:38.220 bad to do i agree so um yes good times 0.91

02:08:49.260 we're all on the same page there which is okay here i'm gonna get into my notes lizzie going to lizzie

02:08:54.860 here you said in your youth you made and these are your pre-show notes here you made a lot of poor

02:08:59.180 choices that make it impossible for you to ever be considered traditional or chased i know you

02:09:04.460 touched on a little bit can you tell us what what those poor choices were oh boy sorry mom uh well

02:09:14.380 uh high body count i'm sure we'll get into that later um i did cheat on a couple guys one when i was 19

02:09:21.820 and one when i was 21 and it was wrong they were good men and i'm sorry i did it um

02:09:28.860 those are the main ones and i think also just having an over inflated ego because i i fell into the trap

02:09:37.020 where i thought oh you know these guys are sleeping with me that means something it doesn't

02:09:42.060 unfortunately um so yeah i think that's pretty much the main when did you have the change of heart

02:09:48.700 i well you're 31 or 35 35 okay um i would say because it was a gradual process um and it's been

02:09:59.820 expedited substantially um since meeting my latest partner he's changed my life i love him so much

02:10:05.820 he's i i am the luckiest i feel like the luckiest girl in the world that i found him thank goodness

02:10:11.660 um but uh i would say 28 28 was when i first because that was i think that was the beginning

02:10:19.580 of what they say like hitting the wall sort of thing um so i looked at myself and i just you know

02:10:26.860 i looked at what i wanted to do you know being a mother um i'd be happy to be a stay-at-home mom i'm

02:10:32.700 open to that in california it's not really practical but um uh yeah so i'd say 28.

02:10:38.780 you also wrote was this for oh sorry go ahead i was just gonna say is this change of heart for

02:10:46.620 practical reasons or was it for other than practical reasons i'd like to say it was other

02:10:52.620 than practical but i'll be real it was practical i i was realizing that i was um

02:10:59.100 you know i was just full of emptiness and loneliness because i would i would spend time

02:11:02.620 with these guys you know they'd and i i and even up until recently i've always said oh i don't regret

02:11:09.500 it and whatever and i mean whether i regret it or not is kind of irrelevant um but it's relevant okay

02:11:17.340 that's why i'm wondering which part is pragmatism and which part is why i actually made a mistake that

02:11:22.620 i'm ashamed of i think that i'm ashamed of cheating that that one was an easy shame i wish i had done

02:11:32.620 that um i'd say that the high body count for for a long time um i would say even right up into meeting

02:11:42.700 my latest boyfriend i kind of wore it as a as a badge of honor um but i think what also really changed is

02:11:49.260 that my current boyfriend has a daughter and she's 10 and so i have to now translate everything that

02:11:56.060 i'm doing into if she did that what would i think about it and i'm like oh snap like that would not

02:12:02.380 be good if she did a lot of the stuff i did so all right you said so you did say um you slept with 0.96

02:12:10.300 way too many people you said you lost track of your body count your guess is what oh my guess is around

02:12:18.300 a hundred i think you said here in the notes over a hundred yeah so you know i i have yeah i'll just

02:12:25.980 say over okay you you also said you were very risky with your sexual behavior did not always use

02:12:32.300 protection yeah should have really bad and you mentioned the the cheating um well for and i do look

02:12:38.940 um i actually want to applaud you for being open and you know saying these things a lot of people would

02:12:45.740 not be willing to disclose this sort of thing so i certainly applaud you for your honesty well

02:12:50.780 um it's not about me like i came on this podcast and i know like i might get canceled for some of

02:12:56.300 what i say but i'm trying to do what's right i don't think you'll be canceled andrew might get

02:13:00.540 canceled i might get canceled for having this chilean military officer okay um he's gone awol he is um okay

02:13:12.620 okay i know you wanted to talk about uh in your notes you said you wanted to talk about dating as

02:13:19.180 someone who is overweight um a question for you though have you have you always been overweight

02:13:24.860 your adult life yep the whole time pretty much okay um is there anything specific that you wanted to 0.79

02:13:32.220 because you said you'd like to discuss dating as a your words not mine dating as a fat woman yeah

02:13:38.380 um i just i get really frustrated with the fat acceptance movement because on the one hand

02:13:47.580 i get it you know i prefer to not have random strangers come up to me and verbally express

02:13:54.780 their opinion of my body shape that would be preferred um that being said i'm not going to sit

02:13:59.900 here and pretend like i don't have health issues and i'm just as healthy as someone who's of a

02:14:04.780 one of these ladies body weights um and that's all baloney and i refuse to say that something is 1.00

02:14:12.940 true when it is not and i'm also not going to say that a person who doesn't want to date me is fat 0.77

02:14:17.340 phobic and that's absolutely ridiculous i think it is a totally reasonable thing for a man to look at 1.00

02:14:23.260 me and have that be a concern i think it's a biological and logical choice i get it don't don't you think 0.96

02:14:29.020 to the when talking about the fat shame thing that it's not about random strangers approaching

02:14:36.540 heavy women in the street and talking smack to them that's not really what it is it's just a matter of 1.00

02:14:41.580 what society wants to push towards as a standard or something which is promoted that seems like it's a

02:14:49.180 distinction right so i don't think anybody was ever like yes run over to to heavy women in the street 1.00

02:14:54.300 and be like hey you know nobody ever was saying that they were just saying that you know on the

02:14:59.420 other hand kind of pushing people towards the acceptance of uh of overweight women as being 1.00

02:15:06.940 some kind of standard or as some kind of good for the world yeah that's that's that's what it's about

02:15:11.740 i think that's morally irresponsible to do that and i've said this before in private but um i think that

02:15:18.700 it's as unhealthy to have a woman who's exceedingly underweight on a on a magazine cover as it is 1.00

02:15:26.220 having tess holiday on a magazine cover because they're both extremes of unhealthiness and i would

02:15:30.540 prefer to see normal healthy women i think that would be the best thing for society oh yeah 1.00

02:15:41.100 that was beautiful that i absolutely agree yeah the the pragmatism part though kind of going back to

02:15:46.860 this you said that you you held and i'm just wondering from the promiscuity from the promiscuity

02:15:53.180 side were you promiscuous because you were always heavy and so that was a form of male validation yeah

02:15:58.700 i think that was definitely um the trap that i fell into yeah and is that why you wore that as a badge

02:16:05.340 of honor yes i think so yeah you also said in your pre-show notes that you were feminist in your late 1.00

02:16:11.340 teens and early the mid 20s now you consider yourself an equalist i'm very disappointed with how

02:16:16.780 feminists behave these days and do not want to associate myself with such hypocrisy and sexism 1.00

02:16:22.860 and so i guess my question to you is did you used to hate men no oh okay that's well at least that's 0.66

02:16:28.620 good that's good um do you think feminists are sexist yes towards men some some feminists i think 1.00

02:16:36.780 are sexist men i think it is you know that there was there was a woman on here a while ago and i forgot

02:16:43.580 her name but she had sort of a she was a plus-size lady she had sort of a off-the-shoulder tan outfit 1.00

02:16:49.900 anyway and she was like she had all these tweets or she was joking around she's like oh you know

02:16:54.620 men are so terrible andrew was there for that was atrocious i thought that that was atrocious 0.88

02:17:00.940 thing to say it was and the way i think you that was the gangsta drug-running woman 1.00

02:17:05.020 oh yeah yeah go ahead though go ahead um because i think if you would have reversed the sexism this

02:17:10.940 is a good way i think to figure out whether or not you're saying something that's fair if you reverse

02:17:15.420 the sexes and it sounds really bad then you know it's really bad already because it yeah and i also

02:17:21.500 think as someone who only dates blue call blue collar men they are i think that blue-collar men are

02:17:27.260 totally disrespected and you know i think that no offense but a lot of women like yourself you want you 1.00

02:17:33.180 know someone who's can treat you like a princess and pay for all these things but there's a lot

02:17:38.140 of blue-collar men that yeah okay they can't buy you diamond earrings and fancy cars but they are

02:17:43.660 hard-working and they are good men and they make great husbands they have like good morals exactly yeah

02:17:51.100 not all of them of course going around the table really quick who here considers themselves a feminist 1.00

02:17:56.300 like do i believe in equal rights for men and women well i think that's different than what

02:18:04.860 feminism is but i know people have different definitions of what feminism is so what's what's 1.00

02:18:09.980 your definition well he doesn't need to give you his definition to have you define whether or not you

02:18:15.180 think you're the thing or not the thing well i think that the term feminist has become

02:18:23.180 um a more negative term saved national donated two hundred dollars i'm still amazed you've slept

02:18:32.700 with over 100 people if you could only choose one option would you have rather waited until marriage

02:18:39.420 or slept with those same 100 people so this is a great example of what i mentioned where i'm thinking

02:18:46.220 of my stepdaughter when i say this i would rather have waited until marriage and i hope she does the same

02:18:52.300 okay thank you nash nabu for the uh tts appreciate it

02:18:58.540 so as i was saying so yeah the term feminist has a different definition than what its original

02:19:05.660 definition was and the original definition was what i just said that it's like fighting for women and 1.00

02:19:11.340 men to have equal rights but now so many people on the internet have made it this term that women should

02:19:18.940 have more than men which is kind of backwards so i don't believe in that i don't think women should 1.00

02:19:25.340 have anything more i think it should be equal going around the table in the tradition in the traditional

02:19:31.900 sense of feminism i would say a little bit yes but i'm not very sided one way no no no

02:19:44.860 into the mic please i don't identify with modern western feminism

02:19:51.900 andrew are you a feminist i am not ah okay what is an eastern feminist 0.69

02:19:59.820 um i personally just i don't know there's such a thing even as an eastern feminist but 1.00

02:20:04.940 i don't think that the things that feminism here in the west have become about currently 1.00

02:20:11.900 are actual real issues um i think that you know there's a lot of women out there 1.00

02:20:17.340 um crying about hey we can't um show her like our armpit hair we can't free our nipples on the street 0.96

02:20:23.180 while there are women um now who still don't have access to education who don't have access to their 1.00

02:20:29.980 own bodies who are being married off at 12 years old and younger and i think that those issues are

02:20:35.820 far more pressing uh for women than not being able to show your boobs on the street

02:20:43.500 you mentioned actually that's the only right that i can think of that men have that women don't 1.00

02:20:51.260 is the ability to go shirtless i cannot think of any right in the u.s have that right it just depends

02:20:57.420 it's all well yes in some cities yes you uh the women can be topless interestingly enough though 1.00

02:21:04.540 even if it's legal women aren't like chomping at the bit to go topless in public so uh it's it's very 1.00

02:21:12.380 like performative i think what's going on here i think women have gotten so many rights and so many

02:21:18.380 privileges here i see a lot of women um like people that i know personally complaining about these you 1.00

02:21:25.100 know topics that aren't so important um that are not like not life or death and you know things like

02:21:31.740 that and i haven't heard them say a word about you know women that are getting um circumcised in africa 0.98

02:21:39.340 um tortured things like that that are being raped in congo sudan enslaved oh i'm so sorry um

02:21:47.420 things like that people have difficulty never mind oh i'm sorry i'm sorry i forgot um but there are real

02:21:54.140 issues that are going on where women are being you know just actually tortured and 0.98

02:22:01.660 so why do you think modern feminists don't give a shit about them 1.00

02:22:05.580 because i don't see anyone talking speaking up about these issues no why do you think modern 0.99

02:22:09.740 feminists don't give a shit about them they clearly don't why do you what do you think the motivation is 1.00

02:22:14.540 i think because the society we live in here in the west is very um self-centered and there's no 0.99

02:22:20.940 sense of community and it's all about me me me what can selfish selfish me what can

02:22:26.060 what can the world do for me oh i don't have these things that i want materialistic things most of the

02:22:30.380 time what can they do for me versus you know these other women these other people around are 1.00

02:22:36.540 suffering what can i do to help them it's all all about ourselves and i think we've gotten so

02:22:41.580 privileged here um that we just started inventing things to to be upset about and creating problems

02:22:47.900 when there aren't honestly there aren't things to complain about that much there still are things

02:22:53.100 here but like still are things going on here but um yes yeah i'm gonna stop there it's hard for me to

02:23:01.260 express myself that's good that's good well put well really well that was beautiful that was beautiful

02:23:09.100 okay so and i've seen it with my own eyes i'm sorry to cut you off brian but i've seen it with my own

02:23:14.700 two eyes i've seen things going on on the other side of the world that are completely unfair and

02:23:19.180 women being barred from going to school and being barred from even leaving their houses and being 0.98

02:23:24.140 forced into marriages and things like that that are awful and does anyone here ever say anything

02:23:27.900 about it no they don't care they just are mad because uh i don't know what was there was this

02:23:33.260 issue about like the things on the street being called a manhole they were like that's not fair

02:23:37.900 like are you serious that's not that's not an issue you're fine you know it's actually funny about

02:23:41.900 that the whole like uh policeman fire fireman manhole so are you wanting to export feminism then to solve 1.00

02:23:50.460 those issues i don't know what the solution would be but i do think that there has to be maybe a human

02:23:59.340 rights thing more so than feminism but that's what feminism was right was egalitarianism is a human right 1.00

02:24:06.700 so here's the question it's kind of it's kind of an odd thing right so you say feminism leads to this 1.00

02:24:14.620 all these bad outcomes and the bad outcome is all these selfish people doing all this selfish 0.98

02:24:19.340 shit and trying to figure out problems that they're going to invent and then you say but wait look at 0.98

02:24:23.980 these other places where there's all these problems going on shouldn't we export the thing that caused 0.99

02:24:29.340 all the problems over here in order to solve all the problems there yeah i get your point it it is very

02:24:34.460 complicated if there was just because of how humans are we are very selfish ingredient it's kind of you

02:24:39.900 know you give someone an inch they want to take a mile so i think it is an interesting conversation to

02:24:45.100 have about how can we give these rights and get these women in other places you know the things that 1.00

02:24:52.380 are essential without it getting out of hand as it has over here which can that be done i'm not sure

02:24:58.620 yeah i don't know that's the question right it's like can it can that be done i don't think that can

02:25:03.580 be done i think when you're you're talking or you're you're saying you need to export the thing

02:25:09.580 that caused all these problems to solve all those problems over there it seems like it just connects

02:25:13.420 with brand new sets of the same problems that you're trying to solve here i was like does that

02:25:18.540 actually work does does exporting western values to fix these eastern problems work not really well i'm not

02:25:25.740 sure about exporting western values specifically but i do think that well what's feminism if it's not 1.00

02:25:30.060 a western value yeah yeah it's a western value so it's just it's like it doesn't and it doesn't work

02:25:37.260 it doesn't work to solve whatever these you know kind of perceived issues are it's like you brought up

02:25:43.420 arranged marriage right yes you have a problem with arranged marriage i personally don't have a problem

02:25:48.540 with arranged marriage i but i do think that there because it's a system which can work right yeah i i

02:25:55.500 actually in my notes i wrote that i'm actually um i think we should destigmatize arranged marriages

02:26:02.300 but i think that there are uh conditions so obviously both parties are consenting both parties

02:26:08.140 are of age um i think if it's just the thing where like it's you know parents kind of being like we

02:26:13.820 think you two would be a good match meet each other talk go out a couple times see if it works and if

02:26:19.660 those people are down for it then great but i don't think it should be the thing where we found you a

02:26:24.460 husband you have to marry him and you have no say or will hurt you kill you kick you out things like

02:26:30.460 that um but i've seen arranged marriages work in my own family uh very sorry very well um and there

02:26:37.020 weren't there haven't been any issues or any concerns that have come up and they weren't forced

02:26:43.500 right so just because these eastern values doesn't mean that they're bad values or that western values

02:26:47.900 need to be exported right yeah i think not all eastern values are bad i think a lot of eastern values

02:26:52.860 actually are rooted in good things but um again like human nature uh you know you give someone a

02:26:58.700 little bit of power they tend to take over um and want more and more so i think that things have kind

02:27:04.140 of gone out of hand um in the east as well in terms of power and things that you know morals and things

02:27:09.900 like that of virtue and all that have gone to the point where women can sometimes be like 1.00

02:27:14.620 overprotected and shielded inside um just to uphold those values

02:27:25.580 with your definition of feminism since i guess you're a feminist right 1.00

02:27:30.620 with my definition what is your definition your definition equality between men and women

02:27:35.500 equal rights okay but so you think we're currently still fighting for that correct in the u.s

02:27:40.940 or in the world well i don't know about the current state of equality between men and women and

02:27:48.540 in uh like the united luxembourg or i don't know united states having lived in you know a developing

02:27:54.700 country with a more patriarchal society like egypt if you compare that to when i moved here you know

02:28:00.860 obviously women have way more rights here sure um i think you know there are still some little things so 1.00

02:28:09.260 to men right men have more rights here than they do in egypt too don't they um yeah i'm some in some

02:28:20.460 cases yeah like just i think a lot of people just don't have a lot of rights in general over there

02:28:27.500 rights don't exist it's not that they don't exist like it's not as it's not north korea

02:28:32.540 it's do rights exist in egypt no do they just exist at all yeah where what do you mean can you

02:28:43.340 point to one well you know like in saudi arabia women recently in the recent years they just got their 0.99

02:28:50.620 vote the right to vote so they got they got a right so it didn't exist before they got it

02:28:58.620 yeah they didn't have the right to vote right so it didn't exist so rights don't exist they're just

02:29:04.220 things that are given to people right they're entitlements absent duty they don't actually

02:29:07.660 exist well it's like men had the right so it existed in the first place didn't have the right

02:29:12.940 there was no right there's no rights there's no such thing as a right it's completely made up social

02:29:18.700 construction it's arbitrary completely meaningless it's just like in the first 10 amendments when they

02:29:24.780 talk about your rights like right to bear arms your right to a speedy trial do you have a right to

02:29:29.500 bear arms as an american yeah yeah can you bear a nuke i no no you can't i thought you had a right to

02:29:37.020 bear arms well it like to an extent like there's still governing laws especially within i thought it was

02:29:43.100 a right i'm well that's for you to talk to the so it's not a right it's something besides a right a

02:29:50.780 conditional right conditional right does that mean we can put more conditions on the right

02:29:55.580 until it doesn't even become the right i guess if you want to then there's no rights it's just all

02:30:00.140 made up our it's just made up nonsense there's no right yeah technically it is made up because

02:30:04.380 someone had to write that's right it's all made up you wanted to come i was just gonna say at the

02:30:07.820 time that that right was written down in the constitution uh there was not nukes so oh awesome yeah

02:30:15.740 there's just massive warships that could cannonade an entire coastal city and blow it to 1.00

02:30:20.620 fucking smithereens i like that but uh you can't own one of those either 0.51

02:30:27.740 actually i probably could if i had the money i could probably buy like a you know like a ship with 0.98

02:30:34.140 cannons on it do you want to become a pirate with me derailing derailing sorry i'm just saying

02:30:40.540 i mean you have you had the right you have a right to bear arms it doesn't mean you can

02:30:44.620 just mass you're you're a little too far from the mic what is the right to bear arms have to

02:30:48.780 do with mass murder well you just brought up an example of mass murder with with the giant warship

02:30:54.460 no that was an example of that it was to express to you that even if the technology did not at the

02:30:59.180 time exist for whatever these limitations you're putting on modern guns it's totally irrelevant

02:31:04.620 because there was technology which was still highly powerful which could take out entire coastal cities

02:31:09.660 even then at the time right then so arms includes what does that include exactly that's a good

02:31:15.740 question that's what i'm trying to figure out right just like freedom of speech does that only include

02:31:19.660 printing press because that's what they had at the time it's my question so we're talking about rights

02:31:26.460 i don't think there are rights i think that they're made up i've never had anybody demonstrate to me 0.92

02:31:32.460 that there's an actual right to do shit what is a right well by your logic as just saying like oh 0.73

02:31:39.660 rights don't exist because it's things people made up and it you can almost say it's like a social 0.98

02:31:43.260 construct it is that about literally anything in the entire world like no you can't well yeah because

02:31:47.500 the government was technically made up by people you could say that everything like even the written

02:31:51.660 language the alphabet but democracy is a social construction communism is a social construction

02:31:56.060 these are all governmental bodies but material things do exist this microphone exists you could

02:32:00.860 maybe say calling it a microphone is a social construction but it does exist this is material

02:32:06.380 and exists oh yeah rights are not material rights do not exist absent the mind they're just things that

02:32:12.620 exist inside the mind right so when p that's why when people are always like my right to do but you

02:32:17.420 don't have a right to do shit you just it's just made up nonsense ultimately i mean it's made up by your 0.87

02:32:24.140 government what's made up by your government your rights so then your government can make up that 0.99

02:32:29.340 you have no rights if they wanted to unfortunately yeah well then there's no rights you just have

02:32:34.780 something which is an entitlement that they're calling a right right so they say you can do this

02:32:39.020 until we say you can't do this so what makes it a right doesn't that seem like it's just a privilege

02:32:45.100 just being allowed to do something you're getting into semantics i'm not quite semantics are super

02:32:49.900 important for concepts so yeah this it is semantics semantics are important to two concepts so if

02:32:56.620 you have a concept of right i want to know what a right is and i want to know why you think people

02:33:02.780 have them what is one i think what you're with the right to education the right to education

02:33:14.540 let me let me uh maneuver here a little bit so the question though for isabella 0.80

02:33:23.580 what is one right that a man has in the united states the woman does not 1.00

02:33:32.300 because there's feminists there's massive women's organizations feminist organizations in the united 1.00

02:33:37.100 states it has feminism has major systemic and um uh what's the the two what are the two buzzwords 1.00

02:33:44.620 people use systemic and institutional institutional power in this country and if feminism is about 1.00

02:33:52.380 you know equalizing the supposed rights between men and women what are the rights that feminism 0.99

02:33:59.020 is fighting for for women to have equalized between themselves and or well between men and women

02:34:06.140 well when i said that i believe in equal rights you know i wasn't only talking about the united states

02:34:11.980 okay well let's talk about the united states so are there currently in the united states any rights that

02:34:17.020 are afforded to men that women do not have um i'd have to look into it more you so you're purporting to

02:34:25.580 fight for something well you're not even sure what's around the world because you know i haven't lived in

02:34:30.940 the u.s for very long so i wouldn't like even though i'm technically american i wouldn't claim this as

02:34:36.220 like my country so you're currently like doing advocacy for egypt i'm just advocacy specifically

02:34:46.140 you know i'm not going out to protest like all the time and like donating to things but of course like

02:34:52.460 i'm not gonna say i don't think that they should be equal there because i've seen like what she said

02:35:01.340 she's seen people like women have all their rights taken away in whatever countries like 0.99

02:35:08.380 similar things happen in egypt where they're not treated very well and that's okay right but i don't

02:35:13.580 i don't know i'm not really interested in speaking about egypt yeah that's understandable i mean you

02:35:19.260 didn't clarify if i just meant about were you treated badly in egypt um worse than i was treated

02:35:25.340 here yeah what does that mean though you know i was harassed like pretty much oh sorry well no no

02:35:31.340 no but like i've i've heard some not very positive things about egypt no offense since you've lived

02:35:37.580 there for a long period of time especially cairo i've heard it's uh it's not great especially yeah it's

02:35:44.060 hard living there it's very it's a difficult country to live especially when you come from

02:35:49.260 like a western country and then you move there afterwards of course i will acknowledge that i

02:35:55.340 did have it better than the average citizen or person living how come because i was an expat okay

02:36:03.340 so you know expats of course they're gonna have it better than the average egyptian living in egypt

02:36:07.900 for the most part all right well moving on with my notes here we were talking oh your blind date lizzie

02:36:15.180 tell us about your blind date oh boy okay um well it was the only because i pretty much get along with

02:36:23.740 pretty much most people but this was the one time where no second date on this one um i um

02:36:31.980 agreed to meet for drinks um and i show up and instantly i could see that we weren't a match

02:36:39.420 physically um i think we were in terms of like just biological looks but he was kind of wearing

02:36:46.380 this sort you know that in the matrix when neo wears that long coat the black coat that one yep

02:36:52.220 he was wearing that and like these kind of interesting glasses and i was like in a summer

02:36:56.860 dress so he looked kind of weird uh and then we went into the bar got the drinks and you know and he

02:37:03.420 proceeds to to tell me that he is a vampire who has died seven times and i was i'm i'm a no bs kind

02:37:12.140 of gal so i was like okay that's not gonna work for me um and uh then so but i was already there so

02:37:19.820 i was like all right i'll complete this this date here um and then we're going to leave and he's like oh

02:37:25.340 you know can i come with you to your place no no he's like okay uh can i escort you home and i was like

02:37:31.980 you can escort me to the busty boat and um on the way there he told me that his last girlfriend

02:37:39.820 had a restraining order against him so that was like nail in the vampire coffin i guess um so that

02:37:46.780 yeah that didn't uh that didn't work out at all who said i don't think we needed anything past the

02:37:51.660 vampire who set you up with the vampire that's that's did you mention the whole him being he died 0.86

02:37:56.540 seven times yep and he's a vampire yep so big time bullshit meter going off on that one last 0.99

02:38:03.260 girlfriend had a restraining order yeah on him allegedly that's what he said you're trying to 0.99

02:38:07.740 drink her blood or something what's going on there you didn't like try to mess with him a little bit

02:38:11.500 no like wouldn't that have been hilarious just been like well do it in eighth let's see what happens

02:38:16.540 no it wouldn't have been genuine and i i try to be genuine so no you said it was one of the few times

02:38:22.140 you did not hook up with a date no sorry no second date no no you kind of i mean i'm not gonna lie you

02:38:29.420 could have at least i don't know you're kind of missing out on at least one sexual encounter with

02:38:37.100 a vampire i'm just saying you you know you said your body counts over 100 you should have thrown a

02:38:42.620 vampire right why turn down a vampire because unless it's unless it's oh what was that movie

02:38:49.020 wait did he have the teeth he did not he didn't have the teeth so that's another problem poser 1.00

02:38:55.980 fucking step your shit up that's fucking amateur hour dude how are you gonna claim your fucking vamp 1.00

02:39:01.340 and not have has anybody seen true blood how you can fucking oh you know what it could have been 1.00

02:39:06.540 the vampires in true blood they can hide their fucking fangs so maybe he was that type of vampire 0.99

02:39:12.780 okay yeah okay uh oh wait was it what was that movie with the wesley snipes blade maybe it was 0.99

02:39:21.980 i don't know he was the day walker he dressed like one i guess so that

02:39:28.060 he went to his date dressed like blades a little bit yeah wait did you know before going on the date

02:39:33.340 that he identified no no no no what about how did you meet him dating app i did yes um was it

02:39:40.060 like vampire dating uh uh oh god what dating app was it christian mingle no it's probably 0.98

02:39:47.260 christian mingle farmers only no there's a lot of vamps like on these fucking so this was like 0.99

02:39:52.860 that's a real thing there's christian mingle and there's farmers only it's a real thing no no vamps 0.99

02:39:57.500 yeah there's people who had done we had the the dog lady a couple shows yeah i've seen that 1.00

02:40:02.060 fruit loop stuff but there's like we need a vamp girl on this show i want to talk to a vampire 1.00

02:40:06.780 girl uh yeah people identify andrew there's other do you know other kin therians do you know about 0.96

02:40:13.340 therians they think they're dogs and animals and shit therian on here you thought she was a dog 1.00

02:40:19.020 didn't you there's yeah people want to pretend to be vampires some for some of them it's a lifestyle 1.00

02:40:24.860 thing some for others it's a kink can't you bring those people around when i'm in the studio bro i'm

02:40:30.540 trying listen i've been trying for months to find a vampire if there's any female vampires watching

02:40:36.940 the show we'll have you on the closest we got a couple shows ago with some uh blood witches we 0.99

02:40:42.300 had blood witches which was that would have been great too i bring on the blood witches i think you 0.94

02:40:48.940 were you we were there's like that was a week we were gonna have you dude that would have been so

02:40:52.780 good that would have been good whatever um okay let's see what else topics you wanted to discuss we uh

02:40:58.380 hit uh body i think we talked about the fat shaming body positivity you said dating hot takes not

02:41:05.500 wanting to date me because i'm obese is completely isabella kindly get off your phone not wanting to

02:41:11.180 date me because i am obese is completely understandable and fair yes okay not wanting to date me because i'm

02:41:18.460 ran through is also completely understandable and fair you say you're embarrassed as a woman by how 0.59

02:41:23.180 delusional selfish rude entitled and unselfaware western women are overall you also say you wish 1.00

02:41:29.580 you could take back your promiscuity i feel is my responsibility to be honest and accept the outcome 0.99

02:41:34.460 of my choices yeah correct okay all right there you go which interestingly and ironically i have found

02:41:43.660 that case in point i'm in a very happy relationship that actually being self-accountable and being honest has in

02:41:52.300 fact helped me in the dating world because you know okay yeah i've been a floozy but at least i'm an

02:41:58.220 honest floozy and that's yeah you know what i somebody said this recently um when it comes to

02:42:09.580 i think it was i don't know honesty is very important honesty is very important and uh yeah so uh really

02:42:17.180 quick you you did say not wanting to date me because i'm ran through is totally understandable

02:42:21.980 and fair i want to open this up to the rest of the girls on the panel here so

02:42:30.220 she says totally fair if a guy doesn't want to date her because of her body count so 0.99

02:42:34.940 do you object to men caring about a woman's body count starting with you go ahead i don't really

02:42:42.940 think it should matter i mean i don't care about what someone's body count is i think it can remain

02:42:50.780 private between you and your partner what what do you mean it can remain private like if you know like

02:42:57.100 if you guys want to talk about it then you can would you withhold that information if somebody asked

02:43:01.900 you what yours was um no oh okay but so you you don't care about body count but do you object to

02:43:09.500 men let's say a guy cared about your body count or another woman's body count and didn't want to date

02:43:14.780 her because of that do you object to that um i mean it kind of just depends on what if let's say the man

02:43:25.340 is a virgin and also wants to be with a virgin then he then that's that's pretty understandable if they

02:43:30.700 both want to okay lose their virginity to each other what if the man's not but still wants one

02:43:38.380 um i mean he can have his preference i think it's a little weird to specifically only want a virgin

02:43:45.260 well hold on let's okay so it could be a virgin but let's say it could also be a woman who has a low 1.00

02:43:49.420 body count one two three partners i think it it's is that weird too no but i think it's only weird if

02:43:57.500 let's say the man's body count is very high and he's only seeking a woman with a low body count

02:44:03.980 what if what if it's 10 his body count is 10 and he wants a girl who's got a body count of one or two 1.00

02:44:11.260 or zero i mean i just don't see how it should matter it's not like if you go on these dating apps

02:44:18.140 there's like an option because you know they have preferences on there there's not an option like oh i

02:44:21.340 want someone with this like less than this number of bodies or this number like is that something

02:44:25.660 you're going to ask someone on their first date sure i would do it i'll do it before the first

02:44:30.620 date slide if i can slide into my dms what's your body wasn't even if it was a second or third date

02:44:37.420 like if i who cares then you're still going to ask right okay i mean like you do you like i'm sure

02:44:43.500 if that's what you want or whoever hypothetical person wants and they you know go on all these

02:44:49.260 dates with different women and find out their body count and then reject them after finding out

02:44:52.220 their body count then after a certain number of women maybe they will find that one person

02:44:55.980 who doesn't care about their high body count or whatever their body count is and then

02:45:00.700 will also have a low body count like what the man wants

02:45:06.780 okay so you said previously though that you object to a guy who isn't a virgin let's say a guy's been

02:45:13.180 with three women and he wants a woman who's a virgin do you object to that well is he actively

02:45:19.100 seeking a woman like they have to be a virgin that's a complete deal breaker yeah i just think 1.00

02:45:24.700 that like why do they want that like it's a little who cares why they want it it just seems a little

02:45:29.100 bit strange like almost like like because i know a lot of people fetishize people who yeah but who

02:45:34.620 cares what if it's just a fetish who cares like from your purview why would you even care well because

02:45:38.940 i think fetishization is a little bit weird like people fetishize me all the time for being asian i i

02:45:43.100 i stay away from those people i think it's weird being fetishized wait so do you think it's wrong

02:45:47.180 to have like a rational racial preference like i'm never i never said it's wrong to have a racial

02:45:51.900 preference i think it's weird to completely shut out a race because of your preference like let's

02:45:58.460 say you meet someone who isn't your like normal racial preference but you happen to get along you

02:46:04.060 have that connection and you're open to seeing where things go rather than just seeing like oh they're

02:46:09.100 this race i'm gonna immediately cut them off because let me try this a different way other 1.00

02:46:14.220 than personal feelings how you personally feel do you have any objection to any of this do you have

02:46:20.540 a single objection to a man with a high body count wanting a woman with low or no body count

02:46:25.660 or somebody wanting to date within only races other than just me feel do you have any other objection

02:46:32.860 besides my feelings i guess not but i still i mean i know you so then if another guy says yeah but i

02:46:42.220 feel differently then you're basically i mean people can do whatever they want my personal opinion is that

02:46:47.900 it seems a little weird you mean your feelings weird how is it weird like which thing specifically the guy

02:46:55.660 who's slept with five women women who wants a virgin yeah well why is that weird actively seeking a virgin

02:47:05.020 only and that's a complete deal breaker because sure let's say that's the case well some i'm not saying

02:47:11.180 all of them but it's pretty common for someone who is actively only seeking that that's a deal breaker

02:47:18.220 is it's like a fetishization and they want to be the only okay well let's say in the cases where

02:47:23.100 it's not a fetish they're not fetishizing it let's say it's religious well if it's religious it

02:47:29.100 should be on both ends wait what why well because like let's say i mean i don't know like what educate

02:47:37.180 me enlighten me like which religion well i mean you said it i'm just asking you like why would it why

02:47:42.700 would the precondition of because you're religious mean that it has to be on both ends i didn't say it

02:47:47.180 has to be but i think it would make more sense if you would rather be with someone right but it's

02:47:53.500 not it's not a fetish let's say somebody has what they consider a divine command

02:47:59.020 right and i'm not even specifically saying christianity anything like this but let's just

02:48:02.620 say a person believes they have a divine command to marry a woman who's never been with anybody else

02:48:07.820 that's their divine command now they're not in fetishization territory do you have any objection to it at all

02:48:13.020 i mean i guess not because people can do whatever they want to do and like they can like there's

02:48:19.660 someone for everyone i'm sure they can find someone who agrees with them and has the same values and

02:48:25.100 mindset as them so like who am i to object yeah so there's really no objection to it other than you

02:48:30.940 just kind of like you're grossed out by fetishes right yeah okay do you think for that situation it

02:48:36.460 would only be considered a fetish not only but i'm just saying there are a lot of people out there

02:48:44.460 who do fetishize virgins because of whatever reasons like they think that it's pure or like

02:48:52.460 they want to be the first person to like enter them or take the difference between a fetish and a

02:48:57.980 preference like a sexual preference versus a sexual fetish what's the difference so the difference is if

02:49:06.220 you have a preference at this is kind of what i was saying before like there's someone you prefer

02:49:10.620 but you're not completely shutting out someone else because of it it's just like let's say i prefer

02:49:18.620 i don't know like strawberry cake but there's only like vanilla cake around like sure i'll have some

02:49:24.300 vanilla cake even though i'd rather have strawberry cake it's like i'm not completely shutting out every

02:49:29.180 other flavor of cake but if you what if you only like strawberry cake then i yeah but like like i

02:49:37.100 said before yeah but is that a fetish because you only like strawberry it depends what your mindset is

02:49:44.540 towards that type of person or race or like whatever it may be well forget all that just the strawberry

02:49:52.860 cake right if you're just using strawberry if that's the only flavor you like you you draw the

02:49:58.940 line at when it becomes obsessive like i have met oh you can go ahead i just want to say the difference

02:50:06.780 between a preference and a fetish is fetish is when you sexualize something and a preference is just

02:50:11.100 something you prefer yeah but can't you sexualize something as a preference wait say that again can't

02:50:15.660 you sexualize something as a preference can't you sexualize something as a preference 0.91

02:50:20.140 i'm not like what if you're like what if you're having what if what if you only like certain sexual

02:50:25.980 positions as a preference is that a fetish it might be like a no because that's that's probably not

02:50:32.300 because it's like that it's not like oh this is maybe if it's like okay i'm doing doggy style and

02:50:37.180 then that's what gets me excited and that's it then maybe that's a fetish yeah but i mean you might

02:50:41.260 prefer that style because it's more comfortable on your knees i don't know yeah that's what i'm trying

02:50:44.540 to distinguish what we consider to be a fetish and what we consider to be a preference

02:50:47.820 maybe we can come back to it let's continue with the panel do you object to men caring about body

02:50:52.700 count yes why because why should it matter like why why i don't i don't really know why i object to

02:51:06.140 i just know that it it is odd and it is why is it odd because i'm not gonna go up and be all up in

02:51:16.380 your business about like wanting to know about how many people you've slept with and if i am that's

02:51:22.540 not gonna be a deal breaker you know that's not gonna change my mind about anything because you

02:51:26.860 could have a high body count for um like other reasons and stuff like that but i mean are there

02:51:34.860 some things that augmented autists donated 200 a man or women seeking another with a low body count

02:51:45.260 is not fetishization it is predatorial they are seeking control which is easier achieved with someone

02:51:52.300 who lacks experience yeah what evidence i mean it's hard to engage in a conversation with the tts but

02:52:01.660 what evidence do you have for that statement my feelings it's just all feelings um but did you finish

02:52:11.580 your point or i think i was actually asking you uh what i think i asked why is it odd yeah um why is it odd

02:52:21.740 speak your mind well i think i was answering that because it doesn't like

02:52:29.420 a high body count being a deal breaker

02:52:32.860 for someone it i don't i don't know where you just you just don't like it right i personally yeah

02:52:43.020 and it has to do my feelings like yeah i personally feel i think it's odd i i don't understand it and i

02:52:51.740 think that's why i don't have a lot to speak on it now let's let's say for a second uh-huh that there

02:52:58.700 are men out there because there's tons who don't approve of the lgbtq just based on their feelings

02:53:07.100 that okay with you

02:53:11.100 no oh it's not oh you know it's almost like your objection here yeah doesn't make a lot of sense

02:53:20.220 no and i'm hearing it not make sense as it's coming out of my ear moving on go ahead

02:53:24.780 um the question is why does if i think do you object to men caring about a woman's body count

02:53:31.340 uh yes i think it's just weird and like how would you even know the person is telling the truth

02:53:35.980 anyways okay but let's say you knew what her body count was because perhaps you were

02:53:43.180 within her social circle and you knew that she had been with multiple men okay if you're finding it

02:53:49.740 let's assume you know the truth right why is it weird that's the word you use right why is it

02:53:53.980 weird okay i think it's more weird like a guy like basically borderline harassing you for your

02:54:01.420 body count like that's weird but okay yes if i agree to that if a guy was harassing you for the

02:54:08.940 answer yeah but that's not really what we're let's say a guy has a good faith reason for not wanting

02:54:14.940 to date a woman with a high body count he's not harassing you for the answer that's understandable

02:54:18.380 like if i think if it's a no you said you just said it was weird okay i was thinking more from the

02:54:22.620 aspect of like the lens of like someone being like what's your body count like da da da da and

02:54:27.820 every and some men like i see some stuff on the internet like oh for ladies stuff with over 10 men

02:54:32.620 she is no longer wifeable like let's be real here like that's probably the about yes what it's about 0.99

02:54:39.900 what it's probably like about average like especially in today's society like if it's like a crazy number

02:54:45.340 then i can understand you um having discernment i mean me personally i wouldn't want a guy that's

02:54:50.220 been all around the world and i'm embarrassed to go out with you wait hold on wait you're embarrassed

02:54:57.420 you would be embarrassed to date a guy who's slept with a lot of women but when men don't want to

02:55:03.820 date women who've slept with a lot of men it's weird no but i'm saying like a lot i'm saying like in

02:55:09.900 the hundreds you know yeah what's considered a lot because it could be subjective so what do you

02:55:14.380 consider a high body count i mean a very easy i mean i would say over 10 you're getting into

02:55:21.900 a high body count what if you're it's not unrealistic you guys just don't unrealistic

02:55:28.540 what's that what if you're older you're like 58 years old you think i should still well i think age

02:55:33.580 plays a factor here but uh think over 10 you are look it's not insanely high but i would say you're

02:55:40.700 over 10 yeah it's high body count now there's women for example who have 50 or 100 who that's also a 1.00

02:55:49.340 high body count but i think once you get over 10 that's you're in the kind of getting into high body

02:55:54.540 count territory but it's weird why is it weird she said it was weird i don't know what she said

02:56:03.340 why is it weird say what you want to say i just feel like it's none of your business like

02:56:09.500 anyone's business to like know what anyone's body count is like and quite frankly like i wouldn't even

02:56:14.140 want to know from another guy because then like if there's a number i don't want to hear like i'm

02:56:17.820 not going to like you all right well maybe we'll come back to that we'll continue going around the

02:56:21.260 table i want to get everybody's answers go ahead no you don't object okay i don't know

02:56:28.460 uh no i think it's it's fair to you know for that to put you off um but i would also say that maybe

02:56:43.660 sweet tooth thank you for the gift of 20 memberships maybe i would say that maybe uh

02:56:48.940 don't discount somebody because of that because that's not you know necessarily i mean you could

02:56:53.740 really miss out on somebody good who has a past that you know maybe doesn't align with your virtues

02:56:58.940 but also maybe they don't maybe they've grown from that and uh so yeah i'd probably still discount them

02:57:07.180 but uh um i don't object oh okay so just to bring it back why is it weird it's invasive what's invasive

02:57:17.900 the whole body count phenomena how what do you mean to like here let me paint this let me give you a

02:57:25.900 scenario let me give you a scenario let's say the guy doesn't even ask he just knows because you've

02:57:31.180 been friends with you know maybe he's been in your social circle and he's known you for three years and

02:57:36.700 he's known you've gone out to parties and bars he's heard through the grapevine that you've slept with

02:57:41.580 20 men in the past three years um he doesn't ask you outright is it invasive then

02:57:48.460 for the guy to not want to date you because you've slept with 20 men in the past three years

02:57:52.780 no but i do think it's heavily judgmental it's heavily judgmental so you object to judging people

02:58:00.060 didn't you say earlier that you your your allowance well not allowance but not you you need a guy to

02:58:07.100 spend five to ten thousand dollars on you a month i said that's the average amount of probably what it

02:58:12.540 would come to if you're putting like like fun things like the average relationship expenses

02:58:18.060 into play but definitely not an allowance would you would you date a guy who works at mcdonald's

02:58:22.860 no so you're judging him judgment is that that's a judgment you could have been missing out on like

02:58:28.780 the best burger flipper ever he needs to pass him by how judgy i just i i don't know i think body

02:58:36.700 counts between like 10 to 30 in today's society is like normal honestly let me ask a different

02:58:44.220 question i'm just curious about assume right this second you enter into this dating market i don't

02:58:51.740 know much about the dating market i've been off it for a long time and thank god for that

02:58:55.980 well let's say you enter into it right now and you were a virgin would it be invasive somebody asked

02:59:04.460 your body count then yes i still wouldn't tell anybody because i feel like guys take advantage

02:59:10.140 of women who have low sexual experience how do they take advantage how do you think do you think then that 1.00

02:59:18.220 most women's answers when they answer that it's invasive or they don't like it or this type of 1.00

02:59:23.020 things because they have themselves a high body count not necessarily i'd even consider myself to

02:59:28.700 be in that category i just don't think it's any it's a man's business like why like what benefit do

02:59:33.180 you gain knowing who i've slept with in the past so we can disqualify you from dating yeah but i i

02:59:40.380 agree with that because sometimes ignorance is bliss like let's say hypothetically you meet give me

02:59:44.940 the red pill that's the blue pill okay let's say i want i want to know so i can make a determination of

02:59:55.180 do i want to date this person yes or no i don't want like i would want that information that way i

03:00:01.180 can make a determination yeah but let's say in every single aspect of this one person let's say you've been

03:00:07.580 meeting people and it's never worked out with anyone and you meet this one person they're absolutely

03:00:10.940 perfect in every single aspect and then except this one thing but they have a body count of 100

03:00:16.220 find out later okay not but you said what you consider high is 10 let's say it's well i'm using

03:00:21.100 the extreme like i'm using the extreme on both sides so the extreme is this is the perfect woman

03:00:26.860 butler donated 200 thank you since one in three women aged 16 to 30 has a std now and condoms don't 0.97

03:00:35.100 protect from genital herpes body count matters feminism turned your lady parts into a radioactive 1.00

03:00:42.140 wasteland i'm gonna go vomit radioactive by the way here let me drop the nuke actually nick could you 0.99

03:00:49.740 click the nuke red click nuke red yeah radioactive wasteland there it is folks look at that holy 0.98

03:00:56.300 fuck that's that's what it's looking like all right nick you can all right yeah okay um so to use 0.99

03:01:02.700 an extreme on both ends you're saying well the perfect woman she's perfect in every way she's 0.99

03:01:07.420 a 10 out of 10 she's whatever but here's the extreme on the other end she has slept with over 1.00

03:01:13.660 a hundred men yeah that's a no but wouldn't you rather just not know like you just you want to

03:01:22.780 keep her as this perfect no i want the truth truth truth uber alice let's just i want the truth

03:01:28.940 let's just kind of let's just kind of grant it though you know what let's say your preference

03:01:33.500 is that you didn't know because for you right not knowing is a thing that you would prefer yeah

03:01:40.460 because you say there would be any problem though like i honestly would you say there would be any

03:01:43.820 problem though for a person who did want to know they did want to know the truth maybe ignorance for

03:01:48.380 is bliss for you is true but maybe for another person ignorance is bliss not so true but like why do

03:01:54.620 they want to know so badly and with the thing with std is you want to be so ignorant so badly

03:01:59.820 literally well i just don't really care it's not that i want that so badly and if like my boyfriend

03:02:04.620 campaign is going to tell me his body count i'd like run away and close my right but your pushback 0.88

03:02:08.700 is but ignorance is bliss like okay that's fair enough it's true maybe if you're ignorant about

03:02:14.140 something um and you didn't have any foreknowledge to it you might go a certain way like okay maybe but

03:02:20.860 if another person had the preference to not be ignorant on on the top what what still would be

03:02:25.180 the objection other than you just kind of think it's icky right that's really it when you get down 0.92

03:02:30.700 to the the value judgment in other words aren't you guys really just saying i think it's icky

03:02:36.220 i think it's yucky there's not really anything else i mean it's like someone's privacy like their

03:02:41.020 personal life like to me sex is something that's very intimate and it's is it and that's

03:02:45.500 why is it too many people have a high body count yeah that yeah but i think sorry i don't i think

03:02:49.660 izzy and i kind of see similar to this on this particular topic because we're not using this

03:02:53.500 as an excuse to be go promiscuous you know and sleep with a bunch of guys i'm just saying i think

03:02:58.300 it's rude for a man to ask a lady how many guys have you slept with i recently not rude i recently

03:03:03.740 actually spoke to a guy about this and he i think him and i like kind of agreed on the standpoint like

03:03:08.700 we don't need to know each other's body counts but if you are in if we both are in an area and

03:03:13.980 you see somebody that you slept with do me the favor and let me know so and we're in the same

03:03:18.700 area and i'll do the same that's asking you your body count just in a in a different way no it's

03:03:24.780 just like if you slept with a dude can you just point him out that's not invasive but the but the

03:03:31.180 alternative but the alternative of asking how many slept with is too invasive like if i were for real

03:03:36.140 if we're like at a party or something that's that time's worse to me just so they don't make a

03:03:40.060 fool out of themselves and the person is there you know but like to go out and ask for a number

03:03:45.020 like that that's just and that's and i'll never give it to you just point out the person right it's

03:03:49.740 like what this is actually a great reason why men ought to date women with low body counts

03:03:55.740 so the likelihood of you being in a scenario where you're in the same room as another man who's 0.96

03:04:01.580 fucked your woman you're just almost making our argument yeah in fact that's your demand you're 0.98

03:04:07.580 like hey i had a conversation with a guy and he was like look if you've been in a room with other 1.00

03:04:12.460 dudes that you've been can you point them out that's literally asking you your body count but

03:04:16.540 stuff happens like sometimes you'd be like out at a party it just happens yeah it happens

03:04:20.620 it would just happen to be like damn like that's you know how it is you're at a party sometimes and 0.97

03:04:24.780 you're just hanging out and then and walking people you've slept with sexual intercourse with at the 0.99

03:04:30.620 party okay it's wait if you have a small circle like it's it's sometimes you see people out it's 1.00

03:04:38.780 true how many how many people in the small circle have you had sexual intercourse with god damn 0.98

03:04:45.260 imagine like enough to point them out for example like a college campus like people in college be 0.98

03:04:50.540 doing craziness like you that's true you're bound to see somebody there like you should like you know

03:04:55.100 like it's not like that look uh okay um i'm still not sure why it's weird i have a question for the 0.98

03:05:02.780 ladies though um would you date a guy who had sex with men no like they're bisexual yeah sure he 0.94

03:05:15.500 previously had sex with men would you date him um i've never really thought about it think about it right 0.95

03:05:24.380 now i mean as long as like i don't see what difference it would make they're bi okay are you 0.78

03:05:33.820 bi no i'm straight what about you um um i've been close i've like kissed a bisexual would would you have 0.72

03:05:43.580 a long-term relationship with a guy who's had sex with men yeah i think i could do it you she thinks 0.81

03:05:50.060 she could do it what about you hard no but hold on what's that's not any of your business that's

03:05:56.140 his kind of value judgment is that that is a value judgment

03:06:01.580 yeah sorry nope i know that it's my business because that same individual's thing has been

03:06:06.860 in like a man's thing and it's really my business well wait a second yeah yeah no

03:06:12.060 there's a little cognitive dissonance going on here

03:06:18.220 because you're saying you have no right to know my past and what i ever did yeah my so what

03:06:23.580 my straight heterosexual past so then what if you're what if you're hanging out and you're dating

03:06:28.140 a guy and you really like him and he's like it's like the one and he spends the ten thousand dollars

03:06:33.340 a month on you the whole nine but you know what i mean and you're and you just and one day you just

03:06:37.820 like pick up the phone and this guy's like yeah it's chuck and i used to sleep with this dude would

03:06:42.220 you dump him immediately it sounds like a value judge it does sound like a value judgment

03:06:50.540 i can't be with a man like that i'm sorry going around the table would you

03:06:54.140 uh have a long-term relationship with a guy who had sex with men depends on compatibility and other 0.92

03:07:02.380 aspects but no okay but no okay yes

03:07:07.820 i'm pretty sure that's a no absolutely not

03:07:12.140 are we supposed to answer this one i don't know okay

03:07:15.100 well okay so um some of you said body count does matter some of you said body count doesn't matter

03:07:20.620 shouldn't matter you don't object to men caring about body count so it begets the question what's

03:07:27.180 your body count starting with you over 100 from you going this way i'm not answering because i think

03:07:35.580 that should be private between me and my boyfriend i thought you said body count doesn't matter shouldn't

03:07:41.980 matter i mean i don't know i also said it's no one's business you don't have to answer okay what about

03:07:47.180 you um i'm genuinely not sure range like or over x number like no more than 20 so 15 to 20 i would

03:08:00.060 say okay decline the question i thought body count didn't matter it's nobody's business okay

03:08:07.900 ditto zero waiting for marriage i'm sorry you spoke you got guys please we do need you to speak i said zero

03:08:18.380 i'm waiting for marriage oh that's really nice good for you beautiful it's beautiful it's marriage

03:08:23.260 okay it's interesting though you guys say body count doesn't matter but uh you do refuse to answer

03:08:30.540 the question i find that interesting i think privacy the my right to my privacy is what is important to

03:08:38.620 me and i don't want to share it on the internet that's fine that's fine i do think it's i have a

03:08:43.580 i've a question too that i'm just curious about kind of folding into this my question is i i can respect

03:08:50.540 your position but then this podcast is famous sometimes infamous for asking these questions

03:08:57.340 you know so i wouldn't go on it if that was my position yeah but i had the option to decline to

03:09:02.620 answer well i suppose you could decline to answer every single question we ask you but yeah and then

03:09:07.180 i'd probably like would never come back here like i wouldn't get invited back some things just don't

03:09:13.020 need to be on the internet like if you wanted to be on the internet look you're not you don't have

03:09:16.060 to answer the question it's fine it's just like it kind of you know your whole position of well body

03:09:21.420 count shouldn't really matter mention really care about it but i also really want to reserve that

03:09:27.260 information because you think you'll be judged on it well i have a different question i'm curious about

03:09:34.780 so all of you guys almost unanimously said if a guy had ever been with a another guy that's like no

03:09:42.140 right off the gate which by the way is awesome but let's but andrew stop you're gonna get canceled

03:09:47.820 dude we're gonna cancel let me ask this let me ask this a different way should a guy be able to

03:09:54.620 or should it should a guy get together with a woman who has had same-sex activity with another woman

03:10:01.740 with a woman so a woman did same-sex activity with a woman should a man get together with her men love that

03:10:07.420 double standards double standards hello um it's a little different oh is it oh you think so what

03:10:16.940 no what's the difference from the if the standard is you you had a same-sex relationship so that's a

03:10:24.940 no-go but if this sex had a same-sex relationship that's a-okay what's i mean that's up to you you

03:10:31.180 know i mean if that bothers you but i don't think it bothers most men yeah i mean maybe not but we're

03:10:36.460 still holding the standard here right what makes it a no-go for you guys if a man was in 0.71

03:10:41.420 a same-sex relationship for you not to date him what what is that force that drives you where you're

03:10:46.460 like no um i think masculinity and femininity are very different so when it comes to same-sex

03:10:54.860 relationships with men like men and then women i just think it's a lot more

03:10:59.740 it's a lot it's a bigger leap to to go same-sex with a man then that doesn't really answer the

03:11:07.500 question at all so like the question specifically is this same-sex activity between two men you're like

03:11:15.660 no-go right okay fair enough why because it's very uh emasculating

03:11:25.820 in my opinion that's that's pretty that's kind of as emasculating as it could get that's it it's just

03:11:34.220 it's just a masculinity issue yeah i think so there's no other i mean it's also yeah i mean

03:11:39.740 well it's not getting to that but but there is right there's other underlying reasons sure sure but

03:11:43.900 that's you know and also i don't know if that would apply to female same-sex situations why 1.00

03:11:49.980 because there's different uh body parts

03:11:56.700 getting involved yeah i'm not i'm just i still i just don't understand the standard i guess if i can

03:12:01.340 jump in on that though so if you guys are kind of repulsed by the thought of men doing that then like

03:12:10.380 the thought of you doing that with other men that's kind of how we look at it right to draw it

03:12:19.660 to draw it all home that's the same way that we would feel the opposite way you guys right being with

03:12:26.460 it's it's not a perfect it's not perfect i mean it doesn't map on one-to-one but you could get the

03:12:31.580 preference you get it right i understand that's kind of why i'm like i i don't really encourage

03:12:37.180 promiscuity like i actually prefer to be like with one person for long extended periods of time

03:12:43.340 beautiful but to each his own like it's your body you know speaking of which this is actually why i

03:12:48.620 refuse to date a woman who who's had sex on camera with another man speaking of sean evans call back to

03:12:59.100 two hours ago if a woman has had sex with a man on camera that is a 100 a deal breaker for me 0.87

03:13:07.500 you're out do you mean like a home you you are out out you go afuera where's where's my

03:13:14.460 soldier wait how did that how did that get turned on do you mean like do you mean like a private movie

03:13:19.020 or like only fans no he's talking about like public for public consumption for public public

03:13:25.580 viewing yeah yeah of course of course okay let me get into some of my other notes here from people

03:13:30.300 let's see we have wait hold up who is this okay we'll come to that in a bit we have uh remind me your

03:13:38.860 name sophia sophia somebody who constantly wants to challenge myself myself and the views i grew up on

03:13:46.220 i did have a short stint with polyamory two guys and one girl your question uh was have you had

03:13:54.460 was that just a one-time thing or you've had multiple polyamorous relationships it was a one-time

03:13:59.500 thing um it was with two hetero guys um and one girl you were the one girl no there was one other girl

03:14:09.820 oh so this two guys two girls yeah i mean outside of me yeah okay so it was like a 0.53

03:14:15.980 four-way relationship yep and so would you guys have group sex no no individually but so 0.63

03:14:27.500 would the women and the men sleep together like her and i sure no the two guys too no the two guys 1.00

03:14:35.260 two guys wouldn't but the two girls would and then you would be with the two guys uh yes and then the

03:14:40.780 other girl would be with the two guys also yes okay all right so it was basically just these two

03:14:46.620 guys swapping you guys around essentially it was you can make it as crass as you'd like well i'm not

03:14:52.460 trying to be crass i'm just speaking plain okay yeah um it was yeah it was a relationship like that

03:15:00.220 if you'd like to put it like that but it was um very communicative very open learned a lot from it

03:15:06.300 learned i'm very monogamous and um okay i wouldn't do it again wouldn't do it again okay um we're all

03:15:12.380 still friends we care about each other what made you want to get involved in that well um i haven't

03:15:18.700 seen relationships work very well um and the you mean monogamous relationships okay yes and so i just

03:15:26.220 wanted to see okay well if monogamy is not working for the vast majority of people maybe this is something

03:15:32.460 that could work um again i didn't find it personally for myself that it could but um and i didn't really

03:15:39.820 see many positives other than the community and the the good people that i met um the dynamic itself

03:15:48.300 i don't believe can work very well it takes a lot of time effort um and there's not there can't be a

03:15:56.700 mutual gain on everyone's end like it's it's just going to always be unequally divided okay you said

03:16:06.460 that you'd like to see the divisive script of the show flipped i would love to speak on the differences

03:16:13.900 in beauty of men and women what do you mean by see the divisive script of the show flipped what do you

03:16:20.700 what do you mean and how i think you know exactly i'm just kidding but you are um you have very

03:16:26.940 inflammatory topics you take the same stances when a woman may answer something um there seems like 0.83

03:16:35.740 almost a very pursuant attack of her opinions and her goals um or whatever she's viewing um and so i just

03:16:47.020 i believe the problem where we're at today as many of us have stated i think we are on the same page

03:16:52.220 that this society and where we're heading now is not conducive for men or women i believe we can have 1.00

03:16:58.940 a lot more respect for one another our individualities um we are on like we're all different people we all

03:17:06.860 have different life experiences um and there's you don't need to respect everyone equally you don't have

03:17:13.740 to agree with them um but i just believe that it's very divisive we're all thinking about ourselves

03:17:21.740 these days thinking in materials i can't say all i'm just saying like what is propagated on the internet

03:17:29.180 is that we're all very self-serving um you'll see the men go after women okay the the women go after men

03:17:36.700 um and i i believe there's a lot of beauty and the differences between men and women and that we

03:17:43.260 need to start coming together and seeing that instead well that's my if i can but so you're you're

03:17:50.700 saying you know the show it's it's divisive well i mean i will give you that the show is certainly

03:17:56.140 adversarial in nature but you as a person who wanted to challenge yourself because of your upbringing

03:18:02.380 of course you would want to have your stances on the different viewpoints you have challenged right

03:18:07.660 that doesn't mean i agree with you it doesn't mean you should personally attack people personally go

03:18:11.740 after people but you should be able to go after stances and the things that people think that seems

03:18:16.060 reasonable right i'm not saying it's unreasonable i'm saying how you go about it is who's you

03:18:22.780 you're talking about the show you're talking about me and how you can go about but okay so how

03:18:27.260 how do i go about it look i i will give you that the show has an adversarial nature but it's sort of

03:18:34.700 a debate format yeah and i try to for the most part be respectful i'm not perfect all the time but

03:18:40.140 for the most part i try to conduct myself in a 93 of the time respectful way why don't we ever talk

03:18:47.660 like you don't ever talk about men's body counts or even ask us if we it matters to us what a man's

03:18:52.940 body count is and i find that a little one-sided so well we could um actually we did when we like

03:19:01.740 right here in this conversation it was asked do you care about body count they said we don't care

03:19:08.540 it's nobody's business i would work on both right no the question was do you is it all right for a man

03:19:15.180 to ask you you know what's your body count well yeah so the quick yes the question was so if the

03:19:20.140 answer to that is no because it's nobody's business i'm just going to assume that you would you would

03:19:25.740 put that on the other side too because if he didn't that would be pretty inconsistent right

03:19:31.340 doesn't isn't it a self-answering question i mean but the question wasn't asked i don't think it is a

03:19:35.980 self-answering question i think i think it's it's worth worth asking 100 sure well i mean and my personal

03:19:43.180 stance on it is i don't think it's good for men to be promiscuous and sleep with a ton of women 0.94

03:19:52.860 i do think there are differences though and i do think promiscuity does have a greater negative

03:19:58.540 impact on women i think women have more capacity to be promiscuous whereas most most men cannot go and 0.94

03:20:07.500 sleep with a new guy every single day of the week or sorry yeah did i say that wrong like most men 0.99

03:20:14.140 don't have the capacity to be sluts every single woman if she wanted to could be a slut that's why 1.00

03:20:21.260 i think the body count thing is gendered there's certainly a difference there like no offense to you 0.99

03:20:27.260 right you said you've been and i'm not saying this to attack you but you've said you've been overweight

03:20:32.380 most of your life again i'm trying to put this in the most delicate way i can say it i'm the least

03:20:38.220 attractive no no no that's not what i was going to say what i was going to say is i think you said

03:20:42.700 that your body count was over 100 right i would argue that your your male looks equivalent

03:20:50.140 would be incapable of having a body count over and i'm not saying that's an attack

03:20:53.980 i'm not single donated 200 those body counts are insane wife and i had one previous each 1.00

03:21:02.220 and agree it was a mistake find one nail them down have the best sex slash ever what's yours 0.98

03:21:09.900 orgasm to body ratio two kids and counting yeah thank you man for the tts i mean definitely it's 0.96

03:21:16.460 interesting that women will engage in casual sex in because a lot of times i hear you'll hear from 1.00

03:21:23.660 women they don't even climax look you don't need to necessarily climax for sex to be enjoyable but 1.00

03:21:28.540 um a lot of these women aren't even coming in their casual sexual encounters anyways they're not 1.00

03:21:34.300 getting any pleasure so not to say that you need to climax to get sexual pleasure but um so to go back

03:21:41.740 to your point though uh does occur to me that men care far more about body count than women do if women

03:21:47.900 do care about body count i certainly don't object to that if a woman's standard was i wouldn't want to 1.00

03:21:51.740 date a guy with high body count i think that's totally valid i'm not i don't have a double standard like

03:21:56.860 oh women aren't allowed to have a preference on this i do think it happens to be the case that women 1.00

03:22:01.260 care much less than men do yeah so just give me a distinction between descriptive and prescriptive

03:22:07.820 so it's it's not hypocrisy i'm saying descriptively it seems to him that the way that men view this and

03:22:16.300 the way that women view this generally is totally different that men seem to view this as a preferential

03:22:22.700 thing and women seem to view it as if a man has a higher body count they care about that less 1.00

03:22:28.620 whereas men care about it more prescriptively he's saying i think both should probably have

03:22:34.540 low body counts right so he's saying that so he's just given a difference between the description of

03:22:39.340 what he sees as being reality and then but the prescription is the same for both across the board

03:22:44.940 yeah i mean i think i think what you said brian's valid um but like i personally that that would

03:22:49.900 bother me if someone had a high body count yeah okay then that's totally valid and if you didn't

03:22:56.380 want to and understandable date with them or if you don't want to date them because of that that's

03:23:01.100 totally valid right which is why i understand it from your perspective okay cool what is just divisive

03:23:07.020 about the show go ahead um i mean your interactions or your reactions to some of the women's comments

03:23:17.900 how you come about well give me give me an example i mean if you watch this with any sort of open

03:23:25.100 mind you can well i'm sitting here when i'm doing the show so i know do you ever reflect on how you

03:23:30.300 interact with your you're going to have to give me a specific example because i can't answer your sort

03:23:36.140 of generalized statement yeah yeah um uh let's say so um one of the candidates you had on your previous

03:23:45.580 shows um she had deferred or declined not to answer the body count question and you were like oh no and 0.72

03:23:53.500 you kept pushing her to answer it and then when she did you use that information against her later on

03:24:00.940 it was it wasn't a do you know which episode it was no my god like okay okay i mean we get into the

03:24:09.180 body count question almost every single episode so indeed you're going to have to because most of

03:24:16.140 the time here here's how it normally goes so i'll ask the what's your body count question and then

03:24:23.660 maybe the answer if they refuse to answer i will typically push back once and say oh come on you

03:24:30.060 you just said that body count shouldn't matter why why that's the extent of my pushback so i'm you'd

03:24:37.100 have to show me the clip that you're referencing it's certainly possible that i pushed back a

03:24:41.260 secondary time but so your assertion is what that i i was berating her because i as look i've done 140

03:24:50.140 of these episodes it's possible that i pushed back beyond twice but i don't think i have okay and i will

03:24:56.940 flip through if you want the specific episode i'm not so but this phenomenon that happens where

03:25:02.620 because because the internet's great at clipping and you can make anything look like anything you

03:25:07.020 want essentially with the right clips yep if they get sent out the whole internet's going to tear

03:25:13.180 it apart right and it could make something which didn't even look bad look a million times worse

03:25:18.620 just based on the commentary things like this it's just the way it goes yeah you know what i mean but

03:25:24.220 participated in the show quite a few times doesn't seem like it's nearly as adversarial like i've been in

03:25:30.300 some brutal drag out debates that are really adversarial and for the most part it's pretty

03:25:37.900 pretty chill format there is some hefty debates but even then seem to back it off if it gets too heated

03:25:44.460 and it seems like what they're looking for here is just kind of the exploratory of the interpersonal

03:25:49.260 sexual dynamics between men and women which is super interesting to people and it is and that's that's

03:25:54.860 kind of what caught my eye when i when i first saw this podcast i was thinking it was why you watch

03:25:59.660 it yes exactly but don't you watch it also because it's adversarial and it challenges you and that's

03:26:05.340 kind of the thing you want right well it's not challenging in a way that's very informative or

03:26:11.580 something where it leads to an open debate with with open minds because it's what is this what is your

03:26:19.660 stance on that and again i'm not a podcast you do a great job i don't i'm not i'm not offended i'm not

03:26:26.140 i'm just saying obviously i don't run a pack podcast of my own i don't know uh you know you've gotten

03:26:32.700 where you are obviously because you're good at it i'm okay i'm okay i mean okay you're you're however

03:26:39.980 you'd like to describe yourself english is my second language so i'm constantly stuttering and i lose my

03:26:45.020 train of thought i've got brain fog so you know i'm i'm all right a lot of andrew here's the

03:26:49.900 fucking debate god okay um he is yeah um when you're talking when you're talking though about um 0.91

03:26:59.340 kind of i get i understand what you're saying right but you're kind of coming at it too with 0.99

03:27:04.060 an own bias of open-mindedness most of the world's not very open-minded and the only way to really

03:27:10.540 drive a point home to even expand a person's understanding of something is to engage in

03:27:17.500 adversarial linguistic combat right that's the way you're very good at it like that's the way it

03:27:22.460 works you know what i mean um i i'm supposing and a lot of these questions are too they're their

03:27:28.140 personal preference so because there's so many nuances in our experiences it's it can't have a

03:27:33.820 very strong debate one way or the other that's not true because please tell me even if you have

03:27:39.900 preferences right you should still have consistency with the things that you do a lot some kind of

03:27:45.980 logical consistency or some kind of basis from which you drive your morality values and values things

03:27:52.060 like this and so the expiration here you're talking about interpersonal relationships of any kind that

03:27:58.940 they don't even have to be sexual just interpersonal relationships of any kind so you're really exploring

03:28:03.900 what makes them fail that's what people are so interested in right they're not even nearly as

03:28:08.620 interested as what makes them succeed about that but like what what makes them fail and so when we

03:28:15.980 kind of dive into that it seems like what makes them fail all the time is an inconsistency and living

03:28:22.140 up to those values yeah yeah and so like i think that that's really something really worth talking and i

03:28:29.180 think that that's why people gravitate around dating shows in general i don't know anything about

03:28:34.780 dating but i still find it fascinating to discuss the interpersonal uh dynamics between people just

03:28:41.260 like everybody else does yeah and that's something where we we could we could go down many rabbit holes

03:28:46.700 of of relationships and why they're not working out right now if we wanted to start either on uh

03:28:53.180 uh yeah that's pretty nice i bribed him on well before you do that i will actually address the open

03:29:01.340 mindedness thing you know what you've you've called me out i am actually i'm i'm not open-minded i'm

03:29:07.340 very firm in my beliefs my beliefs are the yes the sun is terrible body count matters i prefer a woman 1.00

03:29:15.100 with a low body count lip filler is gross bbls are gross fake titties are gross i'm against plastic surgery 0.98

03:29:23.180 what else uh makeup is a lie what's that makeup is a lie yes makeup is a lie uh i'm not i'm not 0.98

03:29:30.860 i'm kind of against makeup but i'm not like that hardcore with it actually speaking of which well

03:29:35.500 did we pull this up we had a i don't know if you guys remember this is like og whatever stuff nick can 0.96

03:29:39.660 you pull up the tick tock thing uh we had a girl who came on the podcast and she talked shit on makeup 0.95

03:29:44.940 and it went super viral it got like 30 million views on tick not nick can you pull up the tick tock

03:29:48.860 it's a tick tock page there should it should be the only tick tock page it's one of the earlier

03:29:53.820 ones it's like early early uh and it got used as like a uh you guys might have heard it if you're

03:30:00.380 on tick tock it got used a noise that you can use a sound thank you on tick tock 17 000 over 17 000

03:30:10.140 women have used the sound from our uh the original basically it's we're not going to play it but basically 0.96

03:30:17.260 and all these women in there uh have they use the sound and then they do like a makeup application 1.00

03:30:26.140 video uh to the sound of this woman saying that she's not a fan of makeup makeup is it's bad for 0.95

03:30:33.020 your health blah blah blah 17 000 videos so uh you know it's it's interesting it's interesting you know

03:30:41.260 you guys are i think a lot of women are um i don't know what the right framing on this is 0.93

03:30:48.140 you are in some ways chained to your face paint i'm insecure you are slaves you are all slaves to 0.98

03:30:57.660 your face paint what do you mean and you will defend wait no here's how it goes you are so hopelessly 0.98

03:31:03.820 inert wait oh my god wait can we i don't know stockholm syndrome you're

03:31:10.140 you're you stockholm syndrome with makeup that you will like fight to defend it to the death

03:31:20.300 i don't know where i'm going all right

03:31:22.140 but yes i'm i'm not i'm not open-minded i have firm beliefs and i will not no one's going to change my

03:31:30.380 mind on the body count thing no one's going to change my mind on the natural body supremacy thing

03:31:37.500 it's just i don't think we're trying to what i was saying is like when he said that's something we

03:31:42.060 could discuss and that's why people go towards these sort of dating channels is because the human mind and

03:31:47.020 experience is so vast and so different that it is fascinating to explore and go down those rabbit

03:31:53.580 holes that's what i would like to see instead of saying oh this this okay thank you i'm just kidding 0.63

03:31:59.900 isn't that what they're doing i mean isn't that what they're doing like all the it's such a long

03:32:04.860 podcast you have so many people on at the same time all exploring those same topics

03:32:10.380 it kind of ramps up right so like it's like a getting to know you phase followed by a okay now

03:32:18.300 we have some information now we can actually start to explore this concept yeah and so it's like if

03:32:23.500 that doesn't that seem like it's the that seems like it's the very format you're talking about

03:32:29.500 well i mean it does good i'm glad it does too cool are you on the you know you're just there

03:32:36.780 are you like um you remember the you remember the freedom tunes did you see the freedom tunes 0.99

03:32:41.980 i don't believe so where where they're like that stupid bitch that one that's it that was 1.00

03:32:48.700 that's what it was right it was like it was trying to make fun of whatever 0.99

03:32:53.900 yeah well it was funny yeah right but they weren't really because they weren't really making

03:32:57.180 fun of the show they're just making fun of the concept of the reaction that people have the visceral

03:33:02.620 reaction yeah in understanding these dynamics yeah you know what i mean and i i think this is

03:33:09.180 definitely well depending on the audience members i'm again it's very vast you have a lot of different

03:33:15.020 audience members i do believe they have similar stances and either the red pill or whatever this is

03:33:21.580 is um it could i it's good everything's good no no no no no come on be be just just go ahead say it

03:33:36.460 don't what's what's the term uh don't i think maybe if there were you know a smaller panel we could dive

03:33:43.900 more intensely into these types of topics i guess i would love to see for your audience

03:33:49.180 uh a change of course really like something where where we could talk about how we would like to

03:33:56.780 see the change how we do benefit one another you are so right here's how we change women stop being 1.00

03:34:02.620 promiscuous men also stop being promiscuous um you know maybe uh dance moves we're just busting out

03:34:11.820 and dancing now uh you know maybe like stop chasing after men out of your league because that's what a

03:34:20.460 lot of women do um what else no more talking in saunas no more talking in saunas exactly uh maybe don't 1.00

03:34:29.100 like misrepresent your physical appearance on dating apps by using filters and photoshop and caked on

03:34:34.220 makeup because men do care this is a little one-sided on what you're saying and very well let me finish

03:34:39.180 my point well i mean yes i'm being perhaps a bit sarcastic in my tone or maybe not even sarcastic but

03:34:46.540 uh just over here turning into a skeleton waiting for the pushback

03:34:52.780 just kind of waiting for you see how what you're saying is one-sided yeah i mean you could

03:34:58.460 kind of push back this big opportunity right yeah yeah i'm letting him finish well yeah so it would

03:35:05.020 be nice it would be nice you know i mean i'm not on dating apps anymore but when i was cable donated 0.88

03:35:11.340 two hundred dollars andrew stop obfuscating you don't know how to debate you're obviously a fraud 0.57

03:35:19.180 enjoy your vacation and congrats on your baptism many years to you and your family appreciate that

03:35:25.980 appreciate the two hundred dollars okay thank you cable for that look i mean when it comes to dating

03:35:33.180 apps for example right uh when i used to be on dating apps i'd frequently see women 1.00

03:35:40.060 every single photo they have full face of makeup filters photoshop i think that's being incredibly

03:35:46.940 disingenuous physical physical attraction is very important to both men and women i wouldn't disagree

03:35:53.820 um and again it's it's both sides we're seeing you know different heights and we oh see i've attacked

03:35:59.740 actually i want to interrupt you i've attacked i've attacked their these two girls here i've attacked

03:36:05.500 their sacred makeup and now they want to leave is that right because no you literally said oh i want to

03:36:11.420 leave no no no no no not about makeup no oh but you do want to leave no no no no no we just had a

03:36:20.060 mutual code for listening what was your mutual code our it looked like a let's leave in five minutes

03:36:25.820 code no no it wasn't five oh ten you can't get a straight answer out of this girl okay um we have

03:36:33.980 early mornings tomorrow i mean if you need us to stay we can try to stay for as long as possible but

03:36:39.260 like i'm not trying to stay till like midnight or like well it's 11 okay or i don't know 10 10. well

03:36:47.420 we aim for 10. okay we aim to wrap at 10. okay it's fine we have a long long drive okay cool

03:36:55.660 it's always i don't know man it's always interesting with like

03:37:00.860 i don't know how to explain it i remember okay i'll give you guys a bit of background story on me um

03:37:06.460 when i was younger i was interested in acting and i remember i would living in santa barbara i

03:37:11.180 would drive two hours just to audition to be on something everybody who gets to be on this show

03:37:18.060 you get to be on the show i don't know if any of you have like have acted at all i would drive

03:37:24.140 hours to la just to for the chance multiple auditions and you got a lot of these girls come on 1.00

03:37:31.180 the show oh my god oh it's so it's two hours away to santa barbara i feel like people don't

03:37:37.100 understand like i'm not trying to toot my own horn here like being on the show is an opportunity like

03:37:43.660 the length isn't the problem it's just safety you know driving home it's actually probably safer to

03:37:47.980 drive the later you know i mean if you're if you're tired you know you want to be awake and

03:37:51.980 alert when you're driving no i get it but it's just like it's funny to me as somebody who would like

03:37:56.700 drive hours for opportunities without actually getting said opportunity and then like we literally

03:38:03.260 like the girls that asked to be on the show we are handing you the opportunity to be on the show 0.99

03:38:08.220 on the silver platter you answer a couple questions you get invited on there's no casting call it's

03:38:14.060 very streamlined no i'm i'm not upset about that but it's just interesting to me like

03:38:19.340 people like we frequently get people oh my god i live in la and uh two hours to drive to

03:38:24.700 collaborate on this podcast is a bit too much for me it's just like okay i don't know it's just

03:38:30.700 people seem like are just i don't know as somebody who like used to grind like who who tried that like

03:38:38.940 i don't know man it's uh oh no i'm sorry to have offended you like we didn't know i'm not

03:38:43.980 you didn't mean it like that we just mean being alert and like i'm totally fine staying like i originally

03:38:49.740 had the intention of staying the whole time however long it took i assumed it was why you guys were

03:38:53.740 gesturing like oh let's leave in five or ten minutes so i mean so that's why i asked are you

03:39:00.140 guys intending to leave no we would we would just like to be out at a reasonable time like maybe around

03:39:05.900 like 9 45 that's all 10 10 30 you know i'll see what i can do have work in the morning that's all

03:39:13.420 okay faster if we just move on like i'll go faster yeah no no no worries no worries all right

03:39:19.340 going back to you you said that you met a guy on a plane to france do you want to tell us that

03:39:22.940 story briefly anyone else that was me okay okay that's pretty just a joke time's ticking you know

03:39:30.300 please be considerate of the two guests here who have a long drive back to los angeles go ahead

03:39:35.340 okay and what was your question there do i do i need to prompt you again okay you in your pre-show

03:39:41.180 notes you said you met a guy on a plane to france do you want to tell us the story yes

03:39:45.900 um so this was something that was i mean so i think a lot of our dating experiences are pretty

03:39:53.580 either bland or or doesn't i mean again this is very general or generalized but um something that

03:40:01.180 sticks in our mind or makes us learn um about ourselves or or the world doesn't happen too often

03:40:07.740 i'll speak in my case alone um when we met obviously we were strangers um but the really fascinating part

03:40:14.860 is there was a ease of energy about both of us i didn't initially find him attractive

03:40:20.700 um and i had every intention of of napping the entire time because i had been tired but when we

03:40:28.140 started talking uh because there was a flow of conversation because it was both very uh mutually

03:40:36.140 open uh we found ourselves talking about everything dreams inspirations all that um

03:40:42.140 um and just kind of fell into a comfort like we had known each other for a long time

03:40:48.220 and so when we got off the plane we explored paris together he had lived there for a while and he

03:40:53.660 showed me some of his favorite museums he picked me up a book uh when i had told him something he said

03:41:01.260 he he thought of a book that could help me out potentially and um and we just it was it was very

03:41:08.380 romantic i i learned that i could be all sides of myself with someone and um and and that conversation

03:41:15.900 like that could be had with a stranger if if there's mutual openness so it was it was a it was a really

03:41:23.020 nice experience so initially the guy started talking to you you kind of weren't about it but he continued

03:41:29.820 talking to you and you kind of relented i guess and then you said did you mention that you kissed at the

03:41:35.820 end of the flight did you mention that oh no we kissed by the end of the flight okay and then you

03:41:40.780 said you ended up having the most french day ever when we landed what's that movie from the 90s 0.95

03:41:46.220 almost sunset or some shit what's that movie with fucking ethan hawk or something what's a french day 0.97

03:41:52.860 i mean going to museums looking at art did you see some gardens eating eating french food and people 0.99

03:42:01.100 watching at a cafe okay it was nice it was really nice okay good times um most like croissants and

03:42:12.540 baguettes or what are we talking about here i believe we had like risotto or uh steak or something like

03:42:18.620 that and um and then wine and that's that's the meal i remember at least so okay all right i don't know

03:42:27.980 what else i could add sorry okay um did you see the eiffel tower not with him no i i did that on my

03:42:35.420 own oh okay all right so oh and also just a point of clarification not to fucking drag it back here 0.95

03:42:44.460 okay uh isabella you did reach out to us asking to be on the show correct yes you sent us the first

03:42:51.500 message correct so it's fair to say if you've asked to be on the show i assume you know that the show

03:42:58.460 look granted i will admit we do have a long podcast here but you've asked to be on the show i assume

03:43:04.060 knowing that we have a long show no i i like originally i had intended to stay for the whole

03:43:13.020 time and i well at first i thought it was going to be about around like four hours and i looked at the

03:43:18.060 most recent episodes i saw they're like six or seven hours long yeah we gotta run long shows yeah

03:43:24.380 yeah yeah but i don't i don't have a problem staying for the whole like that's what i had

03:43:32.540 originally intended to do no i get it it's just it's people sometimes complain about the length of

03:43:38.220 the show look i get it's a long time to sit and talk but um i don't know some of you aren't like

03:43:45.900 in the content creation game so like you don't really have an incentive on that angle like but

03:43:51.900 like there's girls who come on the show who like are doing it from a collaboration point of view

03:43:56.940 they want the promotional benefit of being on the show their instagram's linked in the description

03:44:01.260 they want more followers whatever it may be those people who argue it's like again we're handing you

03:44:07.500 a collaboration offer where you're

03:44:13.420 collaborating with i'm not again i'm not trying to like this isn't to brag but just like

03:44:19.580 to okay if a girl has 5 000 followers

03:44:26.620 it's like we're not receiving much promotional benefit from your appearance on the show

03:44:31.340 so it's like to me i would i remember when i was first getting into youtube i would

03:44:35.660 fucking i would have worked for free for like days for even a shout out from like a bigger youtube 0.89

03:44:41.900 channel and these people i'm handing them a collaboration on a silver platter and they like 0.98

03:44:48.460 so ungrateful so entitled so it's um i don't know i just remember back when i was starting out on

03:44:54.860 youtube i would fucking kill to work with a bigger channel and these people come in and you know anyways 0.88

03:45:00.460 whatever um so yeah go to twitch.tv slash whatever

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03:45:33.020 isabella isabella you have a septum piercing has that had any impacts on your dating prospects no

03:45:39.660 no okay oh we got national bo donated two hundred dollars brian i think you should just stop inviting

03:45:46.540 people on with friends they get comfortable to do rude things that they otherwise wouldn't do

03:45:51.980 solo you've had insanely long podcasts with better guests uh well the the bigger the friend group the

03:45:58.860 worse it tends to get because they tend to uh you know if it's like unfortunately we had a big group

03:46:03.820 of friends on the that witch episode um i don't think it's bad if it's a plus one i think plus one

03:46:10.620 is fine once you start getting the three then it's you know they're there you have a bit more leverage

03:46:14.620 but uh thank you man appreciate the tts uh so the septum piercing has that ever never been a

03:46:20.700 no an issue okay it is kind of like the tell tall tale tale tall tale telltale sign of a feminist 0.99

03:46:29.820 the septum piercing i mean i just does anybody i thought it was cool anyone else here had a septum

03:46:34.060 piercing you you well you've got the double well oh i thought i had i had oh you had it you got rid of it

03:46:41.100 i don't know no guys said you that i i have all three piercings i have a bunch of ear piercings like

03:46:49.900 it just okay i've always i've always thought it's the septum piercing is a red flag really no one's

03:46:55.580 ever said anything the only thing i have gotten about it is people will think i'm bi because of

03:47:00.700 it but oh is that a thing i don't know i don't i didn't think it was a thing but apparently it is and

03:47:05.180 then i just tell them i'm straight and then that's like the end of the conversation okay

03:47:12.860 okay we uh maybe we should ask the chat chat is a septum piercing a red flag one in the chat

03:47:18.460 if it's a red flag so actually just type red flag or not red flag red flag not red flag i'd just be

03:47:26.460 scared that she's a commie feminist man hater not saying you are that would be look at look at all

03:47:35.100 the red flags there my goodness well you know you can flip it up so it like it's hidden and then

03:47:40.460 you can just take it out whenever you want so i i could go meet someone while it's like not there

03:47:45.980 yeah but see i want the red pill i want i don't want the ignorance is bliss i want to know ahead of

03:47:51.420 time i don't think i don't know if it would be a a deal breaker but uh

03:47:56.620 it would definitely make me raise an eyebrow it's interesting i've never heard someone like how much

03:48:06.780 does she hate men you know like does she hate men that's what it makes me think you know do you feel

03:48:14.060 that way about colored hair too a little bit yeah it used to on the cut though it's like it's not just

03:48:22.540 the color of the hair because all kinds of women who dye their hair right as if they cut it in like 1.00

03:48:28.380 there's no easy way to say it but there's like there's a feminist style haircut that's true which 1.00

03:48:34.300 is like i had a mullet but i was never a feminist that's kind of hot that you had a mullet can we see 1.00

03:48:40.700 photos just kidding um we saw on her instagram earlier that was a mullet huh yeah yeah okay

03:48:47.500 i wasn't going hardcore yeah as far as the colored hair goes i remember back before

03:48:54.780 you know the social justice warriors started popping up everywhere it usually just meant she 1.00

03:49:00.700 might have been just like an alt rock chick and it didn't necessarily say anything about her politics or

03:49:06.220 social justice leanings or whatever um usually meant there's probably daddy issues but i can work with

03:49:12.620 that i remember seeing an article that said mullets are the new uh like neo-nazi red flag

03:49:20.140 for men for women wait oh women with mullets actually i'm not positive it was men or women

03:49:25.740 but okay good to know all right didn't know where that was coming from well you know everything is the

03:49:29.420 new you know flag for that but the thing is i'll say this if you ever see one of the like 60 year old

03:49:37.740 chicks who have the glasses on and they have that short hair and it's blue yeah that's that's like always 1.00

03:49:42.540 a feminist every single time it's like their it's like their dress code you know what i mean put put 1.00

03:49:47.980 on the glasses and they go out and then you know they screech the top of their lungs and they always

03:49:51.900 have blue hair and it's in that short leslie haircut and that's that's it's like you're gonna get

03:49:56.540 canceled andrew you can't say that what i say i didn't even say anything bad that time i don't know

03:50:03.980 i'm just watching out for you andrew i'm just watching out i don't want you to get canceled okay 0.99

03:50:08.140 holy fuck did you see how that computer just came at me bro holy fuck bro it just came out of 0.99

03:50:13.900 nowhere jesus holy dude just came out of nowhere okay um tattoo check isabella i i you have a couple 1.00

03:50:25.500 tattoos can we get a rundown on the tattoos what's the one on your arm this is a code for a word that's

03:50:31.820 kept secret are you sorry this one's a code for a word that's kept secret can you hold it up to the

03:50:38.700 this camera here is that roman numerals yeah it's a what are you in a cult no does anybody besides you

03:50:51.260 know what it um my family members do your family members also have like a similar tattoo they don't

03:51:00.060 have any tattoos oh maybe like it's secret okay is it a date no is it your social security number no

03:51:10.540 is it is it that each one of those roman numerals represents a letter in the alphabet

03:51:15.100 yeah and which alphabet is it the latin alphabet it's the latin alphabet so then we could just

03:51:21.820 decode it can we decode no chat it's not like four is representative of the fourth letter in the

03:51:27.820 alphabet it's like my own is this a cipher is that what a cipher is yeah well yeah it would be a cipher

03:51:35.260 can somebody decode it it'd be a cipher it'd be code though okay good times but you won't tell us

03:51:39.180 you're not gonna tell us right it's like for me it's my own personal meaning yeah that's fine

03:51:43.660 any other tattoos what are we working with yeah i have one how many um how many letters are in

03:51:49.660 the she's not going to tell latin alphabet no no just how many letters are in the

03:51:53.580 the latin alphabet he's trying to decipher your tattoo 26 how many

03:52:00.300 how well i mean how many stamps do you have on i don't know you don't know how many numerals are there 0.89

03:52:06.380 how many yo chat somebody decipher this right now somebody fucking cypher that 0.99

03:52:11.900 shit decode it okay um we've gone over your tattoos are you tats tats i'm not flipping you off 0.99

03:52:20.700 it's yeah yeah i get it what is what is that all very cliche is that a 0.98

03:52:28.380 this is a arrow oh i thought it was like what's that thing from dune like the john de gabar the

03:52:34.300 john gabber dom gabber i don't know what it's called i didn't watch it but okay good talk

03:52:38.700 good talk benny jesserit yeah okay good talk um tattoos i have three tattoos

03:52:49.500 i don't know if you want to go yes they're not exciting um let's see

03:52:53.260 except for one i suppose has meaning um i have a monarch butterfly on my back uh on my shoulder

03:53:02.380 wait lower back no no no no okay all right um that's the i have that i have a i have a dolphin

03:53:11.020 lower back tattoo okay well it's in my crazy party years um i also have three stars behind my ear

03:53:19.660 because because when i was 19 and i went into the parlor i oh god i wanted to be cool like rihanna

03:53:26.220 and she has those stars and i was cool so i got that and then i have a pink octagon on my foot and

03:53:32.220 that one actually does have a meaning um i used nope you don't have to tell okay fair enough tats

03:53:39.180 tats tats yep they're very faint and poorly done didn't quite get finished at a cross

03:53:45.580 i have this is gross yeah um can you get a tattoo on you that says speak into the mic

03:53:51.340 oh i'm sorry that would be nice okay butterfly here rose that i can't show you it's on my hip

03:53:58.220 and um some poorly done finger tattoos that you won't even be able to catch with those in prison

03:54:04.060 no you got those in prison something like that okay good times what about you any tats i don't have

03:54:11.180 any okay cool uh going back to isabella i don't have any no tats uh i'm gonna prompt you isabella 0.54

03:54:20.460 you said you dated an absolute psycho wait i can't legally speak of some of it because

03:54:27.820 he went to he was on the run and he just got caught and we're awaiting trial so i can't like go into

03:54:35.580 detail oh are you a witness no what are you so what do you mean you can't legally oh are you

03:54:45.260 active trial i'm like the victim oh i see okay okay yeah like this like just happened

03:54:51.580 just have to do with the code wait no are you wait are you saying if he before he got caught come on 0.97

03:54:56.860 you could have shared the details yeah i would have been more than happy to do that damn bro see 0.90

03:55:03.100 you reached out back in it was like august or some shit yeah it's taking a while for this 0.94

03:55:08.780 we're not gonna get into that but uh can you talk about

03:55:15.100 okay yeah i mean i'm just looking at this i don't probably can i say it

03:55:19.900 it can i say what you wrote um and you can just say no comment no well i'll respect you i'll respect

03:55:30.620 if you want me to not it depends if you mention the illegal things or the non well yes he definitely

03:55:36.860 did some illegal things yeah but i would be saying them so does that change anything because i could just

03:55:42.620 read what what you didn't you definitely did not write this to me i just assumed these things because

03:55:49.500 i can read minds i'm telepathic right you'd never run brian's over here trying to tamper with an

03:55:54.540 ongoing investigation wait but people you're allowed despite uh a proceeding for a criminal trial

03:56:04.780 a victim of a crime can publicly make statements there's nothing wait on advice of the prosecutor

03:56:11.740 did they say not to speak or is this just like you feel like you shouldn't talk about it i think it'd be

03:56:18.060 better not to and i'll respect that if you don't want to for just until it's like over but because

03:56:24.460 the the reason i'm i'm kind of trying to i'm seeking clarification is

03:56:30.300 you said because of the there's a criminal trial you can't speak about it but is it because you don't

03:56:37.660 want to speak about it which again i i will totally respect but it's not clear to me if you've been like

03:56:43.180 uh what's the term when courts will uh not muffle but they will like a gag order like a gag order or 0.98

03:56:50.380 like instruct you not to speak about a i haven't been ordered by the courts but i have gotten like

03:56:57.100 legal advice to kind of not talk too much about from your attorney like very publicly from his attorney

03:57:04.940 well because she might not want to incriminate right the guy i can't imagine from the prosecutor's 0.54

03:57:12.300 side they would say don't well i suppose they could say well if you say but they would give

03:57:16.220 you an order right i don't think they can they can bar you from oh yeah they can't bar you yeah they

03:57:23.100 can really are you from speaking about cases yeah but they didn't bar her yeah they didn't bar her

03:57:27.900 but i think she's coming at it from she doesn't want to incriminate the guy no i i can totally

03:57:34.620 like i no you could but you don't like but i don't want to mess the case up i don't yeah i don't want

03:57:41.340 anything to go a certain way or have it seem like i'm potentially like making anything up to get some

03:57:47.820 big story to like put online to potentially go viral like i want it to just be authentic in the

03:57:53.980 uh trial and not have it somehow be twisted in any other way where it could be turned into like

03:58:01.980 me lying or like you're using it for fame seeking yeah okay because it's like these were like real

03:58:07.180 events that happened yeah that sucks well sorry to hear you went through that um i don't truthfully

03:58:14.620 i'm look i'm not a i'm not an attorney i'm not your attorney but i don't think

03:58:19.100 unless you've received an order not to do it i it's not clear to me if there would be any

03:58:26.220 certainly no negative ramifications on you can i at least ask just for my own did you continue dating

03:58:32.940 him after the alleged uh incidences took place no oh my god no he went on the run he went on the run

03:58:43.340 well i didn't want to anyways but even if he like even if he didn't go on the run i still like he would be

03:58:48.620 gone restraining order everything um okay but yeah it wasn't even an option anyways you said that

03:58:55.820 okay i'll move on the chat wants wants me to move on but you did include it i don't i bring it up

03:59:01.340 because you included it in your pre-show notes so but if it's off limits um i would like to you said

03:59:06.300 you wanted to discuss age gaps in dating and what is appropriate so why don't we start with you and i

03:59:11.260 will open it up to the whole panel go ahead that's a good question um i think

03:59:20.540 if the age gap is relatively large and i know this can be subjective it does definitely rub me the wrong

03:59:30.300 way whether it's the man that's younger or the woman that's way younger like in both ways it just feels

03:59:37.420 a little bit predatory predatory predatory okay i think before we weigh in on that i do want to

03:59:44.620 get the answer from the rest of the panel so you think it's a bit predatory do you want to add to your

03:59:48.940 answer at all or um no i'd like that everyone else okay so you think you feel it's weird you think it's

03:59:55.740 it's predatory okay um it gives me icky vibes icky it gives you icky vibes okay how much of an age gap

04:00:07.740 are we talking i mean that's up to the each individual but um i don't know well you're

04:00:13.740 currently in an age gap relationship isn't that correct something like that what do you mean well

04:00:18.140 you said you're you're 22 he's 32 right around there so that what do you mean around there he's

04:00:24.780 older than 32 like 10 15 years older than me how old just say how old he is i don't know people are

04:00:31.100 watching i don't put people on blast um but like what's the age gap like 14 years okay so you're 22 so

04:00:38.780 he's 36 about there yeah maybe it's more okay we'll just hear you're friends with her do you object

04:00:46.860 to her relationship do you think her relationship is predatory well so i've i've met did you just say

04:00:53.260 a little bit what no no no no no no no i mean like i i might have heard wrong but it sounded like you

04:01:00.380 whispered a little bit no no no i was saying like no it's not predatory okay okay okay so you're friends

04:01:06.060 with her she's dating this guy do you think that that's a predatory relationship well having actually

04:01:12.220 met this person and like gotten to know him no so of course it does depend on so it's okay for your

04:01:19.260 friends to date have age gaps i didn't say that okay for me i also said it was subjective how big of the

04:01:25.980 age gap it is well it's a it's a she's 24 years older than he is now then would it be too much well

04:01:31.900 okay i don't think that's a large age gap though what's large for me a large age gap is if they're

04:01:36.940 within five years of like one of my parents ages so like my my youngest parent is my stepdad he's 40

04:01:46.620 so yeah i guess 35 would be at the like pushing it like that's a pretty big age gap so me personally

04:01:54.620 i don't object to as long as they're both adults um but i would say that most people who do object

04:02:01.980 to age gaps would probably find her age gap relationship objectionable she's 22 like i don't 0.95

04:02:10.460 i don't find it objectionable but i think a lot of people would or that who object to age gaps would

04:02:15.980 she's 22 dating a 36 year old 14 year age gap and in this case you just said it's okay because

04:02:22.540 it was for older guys anyway i was still like i was still a little bit concerned like wanting to

04:02:29.500 know what his intentions were so i like it does depend on the person at the end of the day like

04:02:35.420 you can make these so then they're not predatory then no i mean they can't be predatory if they're

04:02:40.540 not predatory right they're only predatory based on the individuals right yeah so that could be true

04:02:45.740 about a 22 year old 23 year old could be predatory so just for context i mean i was interested in somebody

04:02:51.580 before who was a little bit older than 35 36 and that felt very predatory um because the individual

04:03:01.900 involved because of the but you said you were interested in him well both vice versa right but

04:03:07.260 i'm saying the dynamic itself kind of felt very predatory right like why like you know like we just

04:03:14.300 didn't have anything in common like going out the looks sorry going out the looks what do you mean

04:03:20.460 the looks you know because but you said you were interested in him we were both i was we were both

04:03:26.700 interested in each other but i'm saying like that relationship compared to like this one now

04:03:32.620 feels very different like i don't really even notice the age gap but i do prefer older men like i

04:03:39.180 don't think i could date somebody my age okay but so why was that specific one predatory we didn't

04:03:47.660 have anything in common so if you don't have something in like so let's say a 20 why would

04:03:52.140 you be interested in like but let's say let's say a 23 and a 22 year old have nothing in common that was

04:03:57.660 just one of the things is it predatory to not have anything in common no no no that was just one of the

04:04:01.980 things um he didn't he like aged poorly so like but you said you were interested in him i was how

04:04:08.940 is him aging poorly mean he's predatory no no no what i said i said it felt weird like maybe maybe

04:04:15.340 feeling weird is a better a better way to describe it but the dynamic just did not flow very well

04:04:21.100 um but you said and it felt inappropriate yeah but that's the part the inappropriate predatory whatever

04:04:26.860 that is right right because i think um when i first started um engaging with this person um i kind of

04:04:33.980 had a blinders on to you know the actual age gap itself because everything was just going so great

04:04:39.180 and so quickly so you ignored the age in lieu of what and a little stuff and shit stuff and things 0.75

04:04:46.140 just just it was very was it for stuff and things it was very exciting was it first stuff and things did

04:04:52.140 you ignore the age gap for stuff and things i would say more experiences it was very exciting but

04:04:58.220 experiences like stuff and things i'll just give an example i hope he's not watching this i really do

04:05:05.260 um so like what was this last february i was intending to go to new york for spring break yeah um with my

04:05:13.420 friends and i was just chatting to him about it and he was like no don't go by yourself like i'll

04:05:20.060 arrange the whole trip and arrange like a week's day stuff at a beautiful here come here comes the

04:05:27.020 things let's hear about the things it was just like an unforgettable experience you know but a lot

04:05:31.180 of attention to detail like it was like wow you know so for the material gains you ignored the hang

04:05:37.820 on hang on for the material gains you ignored the age right but he was also a really really funny guy

04:05:42.780 addressed very well too it's just after a while i was just like this is just not gonna work you know i'm

04:05:47.660 not very attracted to you at all so for the material gains i never told him to do this he did this for

04:05:54.380 me you know right no i get it but i'm just saying like well you know i'm not attracted to you right

04:06:01.820 this isn't really going anywhere but thanks for the shit right like i mean come right is that basically 0.83

04:06:08.620 what happened i mean after a while yes it did fizz out all right correct but compared to this one this 0.96

04:06:13.900 one is like fresh and like sexy you know okay getting everybody else's thoughts on age gap

04:06:22.380 relationships general answer no again it depends on the individuals involved well of course but

04:06:29.660 sorry yeah okay all right i mean again keeping it genuine there are times like if i saw

04:06:39.020 a 50 year old man dating an 18 year old girl admittedly i'd get the ick wait wait wait wait

04:06:46.620 sorry an older man dating a what like an 18 year old girl oh 18 year old girl okay that being said

04:06:53.660 um actually listening to you on this podcast i have learned i need to set aside my feelings and think

04:06:59.980 about okay what is the morality of the situation so if i look at that no problemo they're no problem right

04:07:07.020 so this is the thing right all the objections are always just i don't like this why i don't know 0.52

04:07:15.900 and it's just like well then i don't give a shit right it's just that's that's just me 0.84

04:07:21.500 i think the only valid maybe like argument you could make there is like your cognitive function 0.94

04:07:26.060 isn't quite set in until you're about 25. no that's not even true for everybody i heard that was fake

04:07:30.620 news it is fake news in fact the series of sociological studies which you would be referencing

04:07:35.820 to bring up the cognitive disparity between but no these are sociological studies neuroscience

04:07:43.900 especially will be the this inside of the neuroscientific field especially what you're

04:07:48.300 talking about is one specific part of the brain which isn't fully developed in a human adult female

04:07:53.260 until they're 26 years old prefrontal cortex is that it that's that one part but the thing is it's like

04:07:59.500 but how much does it but does it diminish your cognitive ability by one percent i mean it rings true

04:08:04.940 for me i i do feel like once i got to about 25 like yeah but you had a whole ton of experience a

04:08:11.100 lot more ability to to make better decisions but the problem with this is let's assume for a second

04:08:18.460 that every year you got older it increased your cognitive ability or whatever by one percent or two

04:08:23.500 percent or something like this some you know kind of smallish uh type percentage now let's assume that

04:08:30.860 that never occurred it just stopped at two percent less than what it is now or one percent less than

04:08:35.500 it is now and you had the same exact 10 years of experience you would still be way smarter than you

04:08:40.940 would be when you were 16 or 18 or 19 or 20. you would still be so the question becomes is it experience

04:08:48.540 or is it the fact that your brain's not completely 100 percent developed until you're 26 years old that

04:08:54.380 just seems absurd to me it's like you weren't that much smarter at 26 than you were at 24 or even at

04:09:00.460 22. obviously it's progressive you know yeah that's what i'm saying but is it progressive due to experience

04:09:05.500 or because your your brain isn't completely developed until you're 26 that's the question i mean i think that

04:09:10.860 is what the studies show is that your prefrontal cortex kind of completely it's it's sort of that's not

04:09:16.700 even true for everybody can we google the the whole like 25 well no you can't because there's there's

04:09:21.820 multiple there's multiple data samples on this and no it's not showing that you somehow get that

04:09:29.020 like when you turn 26 the day you turn 26 you're like oh eureka my brain's done developing now

04:09:35.740 i can go get that man that i want that doesn't that just seem absurd on its face no i don't think it's

04:09:41.420 like a happens in one night right well it doesn't happen it happens it's a gradual transition but if

04:09:47.100 you're 23 versus 26 how much more intelligent are you because of your brain development that's the

04:09:52.860 question i think it's a question of experience versus 26 i think that's i think everybody but

04:09:58.060 that's a question of experience not necessarily a question of brain function so i'm saying that

04:10:02.780 maybe both the distinction between your brain at 18 26 you'd have to demonstrate that it's so

04:10:08.220 significant that if you were to leave it the same and give the same amount of experience between those

04:10:12.300 two ages there'd be some massive difference that's what those studies fail to show that's my

04:10:17.500 whole problem with it i mean i haven't actually looked at studies i don't know if you have but i

04:10:21.660 have this with this comes up quite often and that's my whole problem with it it's like

04:10:26.540 well let's let's see what would happen if if we were able to demonstrate well we stopped it from 20 to 26

04:10:33.260 and they have the exact same experiences how much of a different person would they be that's a much

04:10:37.180 larger question so i'm not willing to just say well because the brain's not fully developed the

04:10:42.380 day they turn 26 they can go get with it yeah but i think you at least you would agree that you know

04:10:47.580 an 18 year old probably isn't as as good at making uh judgments as a as a 25 26 year old well then

04:10:53.820 should they be able to vote against a 26 year old and cancel out their very well-informed vote i mean

04:11:00.460 i don't know i haven't you don't know well if they should if you're saying that well the experience of

04:11:06.220 an 18 year old woman is such that she could never make the same type of judgment call that 1.00

04:11:11.180 a 50 year old man can fair enough then why should she be able to cancel out his vote i mean i i've

04:11:18.380 never stated that that i believe that that's why i asked should she i mean i don't know i haven't

04:11:23.580 thought about it well you should think about it because this is the same type of argument it's like

04:11:28.140 at what point are they an adult and if they're an adult are they an adult or are they not and if they're

04:11:32.220 not when are they and if they're not what responsibility should they have or shouldn't

04:11:36.220 they have because i don't i'm not willing to be like well johnny you can go to war but you can't

04:11:40.700 go after a 50 year old woman it's like well no i'm not so sure i'm willing to make that call or you know

04:11:46.540 hey tim yeah sure you got drafted but you can't smoke till you're 21 because well society's just said

04:11:52.780 it gives them the ick right it gives them the ick that you smoke timmy now go over and fight the

04:11:58.220 enemies of the united states that just seems absurd to me you know what i mean so when i look at it

04:12:02.940 and i'm like i mean i agree with that yeah if this is an experience-based thing right well 18 year old

04:12:08.060 woman could be drafted if an 18 year old woman was drafted then is she cognitive enough and smart 1.00

04:12:12.380 enough to go out with a 50 year old man should be drafted at all yeah i think women should be drafted 0.57

04:12:16.460 if they were but let's just say that they were that they should be drafted women like men were 0.97

04:12:20.860 drafted it's like there's a war right we need you in the field you're drafted just like 18 year

04:12:26.860 old johnny over there okay i mean can she go for a 50 year old man then is she is she smart enough

04:12:32.300 then to make those decisions i think legally she should be able to i agree with the legal age of 0.93

04:12:37.820 18 we have to set some age so what's the moral argument well the moral argument is like everything

04:12:43.180 is has is nuanced so i mean you have to look at every unique moral argument is that everything is

04:12:48.060 nuanced i'm saying things have nuance yeah i know things have nuance but we're just talking like

04:12:53.980 okay here's stock 18 year old girl and stock 15 50 year old man like i think there's a reason why

04:12:59.340 people may get uncomfortable when they hear that and i think it's valid it probably comes out of a

04:13:03.260 do you think that your grandparents were uncomfortable with that your great grandparents

04:13:07.260 were uncomfortable with that because the answer is but not really it was not a not a huge social

04:13:12.300 issue of the time i i think it has been actually no it hasn't been it was never a big social issue

04:13:18.540 that there was these we didn't just go i i know back like like probably like 2 000 years ago it

04:13:24.380 wasn't well let me give you a different example let's say world war ii by the end of world war ii

04:13:30.300 france's male population been decimated mostly the young men because they just had two world wars

04:13:36.460 the female population wasn't decimated age gaps were pretty wide right by necessity how are you 1.00

04:13:43.420 going to procreate right there's no other men except these is it immoral then i'm not saying it 0.99

04:13:50.780 i've never made the blatant statement that it's immoral though right so i mean if it's but is it

04:13:54.940 situationally immoral or is it just really that it gives you the ick i think it's situationally

04:13:59.900 immoral like to try it's a slightly different situation but i'll try and make an example you know

04:14:05.500 know if there's a kid like i have to be responsible with with uh someone who's a minor in in other

04:14:13.420 dimensions do you know what i'm saying no but i want to be charitable to what you're saying so

04:14:18.460 i'm trying to think of a good example but like a minor another dimension do you mean like

04:14:23.980 their cognitive function is that they're 18 is like that of a 15 year old you have to look out for

04:14:28.300 people younger than you and yeah and there's definitely a chance to take advantage of their innocence so

04:14:33.980 i think that's something that i think that's generally what we're getting at you know what

04:14:36.860 i'm saying yeah but you don't there doesn't even need to be an age gap for that you just take

04:14:42.460 advantage of them anyway at the same age you can take advantage of them i mean there's obviously a

04:14:47.180 serious problem with taking advantage of people who are much younger than you because their lack of

04:14:50.860 experience and but there would be a serious problem for anybody to take advantage of anybody for any

04:14:55.900 reason right what do you mean so like let's say a 50 year old guy is taking advantage of the

04:15:01.580 naivete of a 19 year old girl in order to i don't know get her to do whatever the hell it is that 0.99

04:15:06.140 he wants versus 21 year old guy i don't see why it's immoral more immoral just because the guy's 50

04:15:12.220 versus 21 i don't see what the difference is i would think he would know better than the 21 year

04:15:16.860 old he might but i'm just saying it seems like it's just equally bad to me doesn't seem like there's

04:15:22.380 this was more bad to that because like a 20 year old 20 year old doesn't have as much experience as

04:15:27.420 a 50 year old i think they would know better yeah i get it my general sense yeah i get it i

04:15:31.180 understand what you're saying but you could have a 25 year old and a 24 year old girl and he is

04:15:37.180 vastly more intelligent and vastly more experienced than she is usually not but you could right and

04:15:43.820 there's no ick there the only ick would be in the distinction for age and it's only due to like some

04:15:49.340 kind of preference but if we were to look at the immoral action a 50 year old man takes advantage of

04:15:53.900 19 year old girl it's like oh yeah that's bad but if 21 year old takes advantage of 18 year old girl 1.00

04:15:59.660 that's still just as bad and also as a 50 year old man wouldn't you want somebody who has a little 0.64

04:16:05.020 more experience i don't know what their preferences are but the question the question to me is not even

04:16:10.700 the question to me is not why do you prefer this thing x but whether or not is this thing even a

04:16:17.020 problem so is it actually even a problem that a 50 year old might you usually see people together who

04:16:23.660 are roughly the same age i think that's because they grew up in the same era that as peers you

04:16:30.540 tend to be able to connect on a lot more so i think maybe that's why okay maybe something's off there

04:16:34.940 maybe that's unless this social circle becomes reduced due to external external factors like

04:16:39.900 for instance war if 40 or 50 percent of your male population young male population totally decimated

04:16:46.220 now you have these extreme age gaps now it's necessary so in that case is that okay yeah i think

04:16:52.140 that's fair well then if that's okay you're really just saying there's nothing really immoral here i

04:16:56.620 never said it was never if there's nothing immoral then why do we care that's my question it's definitely

04:17:01.980 a red flag okay well now that's fair right you could say it's a red flag or something that you would look

04:17:07.100 out for that's fair enough but i'm just saying i don't see a problem with it per se not necessarily

04:17:13.260 which i've yeah so your thoughts uh i think as long as both parties are consenting adults and it's

04:17:19.260 fine there you have it there you have it going back to some of you who said that you find it predatory

04:17:25.740 or icky do you care to elaborate on your answers how is it predatory so well i'd like to not exactly

04:17:36.940 change my answer but i'll add more i think it's different if two people meet they don't know

04:17:41.740 how old they are they happen to have a connection and then you know like it just it happens to be

04:17:46.220 a pretty large age gap but if like an older man an older woman is purposely going on dating apps and 0.99

04:17:52.460 making their age range very young like purposely looking for these younger women that's when it feels

04:17:59.180 pretty predatory because you're actively seeking someone way younger than you or if you have some

04:18:03.820 type of age cutoff wait an age cutoff yeah like if you're like oh i don't want to be with a woman 0.90

04:18:10.460 would you date a 70 year old man no what are you doing with this age cutoff what if you didn't know

04:18:16.300 his age it would make it okay then right you only thought he was 45 no but what i'm saying is like let's

04:18:23.660 say you meet someone and they happen to be i don't know whatever age kind of like a lot of men have

04:18:31.180 like 30 cutoffs or yeah like 30 they're older than 30 and you're like no even though they're closer to

04:18:37.660 your own age that means you want them to be significantly younger than you so what if a

04:18:42.300 man he's in his 40s he wants to start a family okay he hasn't been able to for whatever reason okay

04:18:48.140 maybe he's been like long term in the military maybe he has other things going on right he has

04:18:53.180 not been able to but he's accrued a ton of resources so he starts researching goes online he's like

04:18:58.700 how can i have a nice big family what are the things i should be looking for do you think

04:19:03.580 fertile woman would be like one of those big criteria for that 1.00

04:19:08.620 well if you want to have a family fertility and women would be a big one right what are the other 1.00

04:19:14.780 options yeah well first of all there even though the percentage of women that are still fertile 1.00

04:19:21.180 is less as they get older there still are some or if you really want you if you wanted to have nine

04:19:27.500 kids you probably wouldn't want to marry a 30 year old right but if you want children that badly

04:19:32.460 you could adopt adopt yeah but you could also marry a 25 year old there are also women who freeze their 1.00

04:19:39.660 eggs yeah i know but but what if you again you could just marry a fertile 25 year old too you 1.00

04:19:46.300 could be a 40 year old man and go well he's 25 so i get the maximum amount of fertility i want to have

04:19:52.300 seven eight kids but then why weren't you trying to start that family maybe it's because you were

04:19:56.140 trying to accrue resources so you could and then if the 25 year old says yeah you have the resources i

04:20:01.980 really dig you i think you're great uh i want to give you nine kids i could not imagine anybody at

04:20:08.060 this table could ever give me a single problem with that from a moral standpoint ever i don't

04:20:13.980 think it would even be possible wait i have a question sir well let's let her respond before

04:20:22.060 do you have a response he's well i i want to hear what holly's no no no no no no no no

04:20:28.860 so andrew said he doesn't think anybody at this table would be able to raise an objection i don't

04:20:33.980 think anybody in this country could raise an objection to this from a moral standpoint that

04:20:38.460 would be in any way coherent but i would love to hear it i if i can add on to your question

04:20:45.180 without raising an actual argument or objection do you find the scenario that he painted predatory or

04:20:53.820 icky 40 year old 25 year old a little bit yeah okay a 40 year old with a 25 year old correct

04:21:07.340 her prefrontal cortex is fully developed at this point bear in mind close enough anyway um no no

04:21:15.660 no no who cares they're both happy yeah it's beautiful it's beautiful go ahead what's your

04:21:22.140 question i was just asking for a friend do you think it's do you think that from a woman's perspective 1.00

04:21:31.100 having kids at 25 with someone who is 40 is disadvantageous i can't figure out how it would

04:21:39.580 be disadvantageous from a logical standpoint it could be from um some kind of preferential

04:21:45.500 standpoint how old is henry cavill cavill his like they could say they could say for instance um 40

04:21:52.620 wait can can i jump in here really quick you're you know who henry cavill is nick could you google

04:21:59.580 henry cavill superman superman yeah thanks uh the witcher the tutors if anybody i don't know if

04:22:06.220 anybody knows that's a great actor oh i know him yeah uh very handsome man 40 years old

04:22:13.420 didn't he play superman yeah superman yeah so what was your question the 40 year old and the 25

04:22:18.540 year old i was asking do you think it's disadvantageous for a 25 year old woman to 1.00

04:22:22.620 have babies let me ask do you think it would be disadvantage disadvantageous for a 25 year old woman 0.83

04:22:27.420 to have chill children with henry cavill no do you think do you think a lot of 25 year old women 1.00

04:22:34.220 would jump at the chance to be with henry cavill forget that for a second i'll let me ask this

04:22:38.300 easier let's say for somehow i don't know how okay but they were they froze sperm from a guy from 1915

04:22:48.940 who died okay 1915 they had the frozen sperm and a woman wanted to become a mother 0.70

04:22:56.540 right and she looked through and she's like oh i really want this guy from 1915 i want to have his

04:23:02.700 babies right and so she are like artificially inseminated herself and she had the baby okay 1.00

04:23:09.820 well didn't she actually have a child then with a dude who's like over a hundred years old

04:23:17.820 no no well wait i'm a little confused by this one myself didn't she if you freeze the sperm uh-huh

04:23:27.660 right they're like they're frozen yeah so it's not like it's this 100 year old like living man

04:23:33.980 it's his 18 year old sperm or something well what if it's his 50 year old sperm i don't know that seems

04:23:42.300 like or what if they froze it when he's 90 but it's just sperm it's not like you're having

04:23:48.780 intercourse yeah you don't have a relationship with that person and like what you were saying so then if

04:23:53.260 if that's true then is that saying that you can be in a relationship with an 80 year old man 0.99

04:24:00.300 and as long as you don't have a intercourse with him and you're just like i don't know he jerks off 0.71

04:24:04.860 in a cup and you inseminate yourself then that relationship then is fine or no no this is what 0.98

04:24:12.380 i mean it's like i think that's like she says she says there's all kinds of nuance and i'm like let's

04:24:16.940 see if we can find the craziest nuance we can an 80 year old jacking off in the cup it's pretty

04:24:21.740 crazy it's pretty nuanced yeah pretty nuanced yeah but can i ask you something so you were grilling

04:24:28.700 hallie a little bit when she was talking about wanting these like material things from a man

04:24:35.740 blah blah whatever and then she brought up children and you were like that's a material thing as well and

04:24:42.540 now you're saying the material conditions for children yeah yeah now you're saying so you're

04:24:46.940 like oh it's wrong i don't know if this is what you meant but this is how it sounded like that it's

04:24:52.940 not good to just seek someone for these material things but then in your scenario when you're talking

04:24:57.420 about this four-year-old man actively seeking someone younger just for the material thing being

04:25:02.300 the children that you know what happened is she asked would it be disadvantageous for a 25 year old woman 0.72

04:25:09.500 right to um get you know get married to a 40 year old man and have his babies i can't think of how

04:25:16.700 that would be disadvantageous but i'm talking about what we were talking about like a couple hours ago

04:25:20.860 yeah but you're conflating two different things so the question which was asked is how would this be

04:25:24.380 disadvantageous i don't see how it could be disadvantageous i mean i don't think it's

04:25:29.900 disadvantageous per se but i still think that like if the only reason you're trying

04:25:38.540 to like build a relationship with someone younger than you is to have children with them

04:25:44.700 then that's like why would you do that to perpetuate to perpetuate the human species so

04:25:49.900 people like you can be alive no but the other core values that you were talking about earlier like

04:25:53.740 integrity and loyalty and all that like you can have all of those things together you can but what if

04:26:00.140 you can't find that and you only find like that's pretty hard to find virtuously okay so you mean

04:26:07.820 what happens if you can't find a virtuous woman at the age of 25 yeah so are you just going to settle

04:26:12.460 for someone who you don't have that same connection with but they're 25 yeah probably not no or would you

04:26:18.540 rather be with someone who's older yeah so so now so now if you want to make the shift from whether or

04:26:25.180 not it's just advantageous and you're talking specifically about the core of relationship

04:26:29.500 dynamic for preference and you're like is it is the preference for this guy to only have nine kids

04:26:37.100 if that's the case then i guess he could compromise on his values but if the preference

04:26:40.860 is not that if the preference is he wants to have nine kids and a virtuous woman then yeah he might

04:26:46.300 have to compromise on his standards i don't see how he how he wouldn't be you know i mean as far

04:26:51.740 as looks and this type of thing or am i misinterpreting your question or am i getting

04:26:56.620 something wrong here well just because you were saying that like a 40 year old man who really wants

04:27:03.980 a family like really really badly they're going to only look at younger women because they have a higher

04:27:10.220 chance of being fertile and being able to give you those no i'm not saying they're only would but i

04:27:14.700 would understand why they would can i play devil's advocate from my original point on this topic

04:27:19.740 so if i am a hot 25 year old woman okay and this 40 year old man wants me to have his kids 0.95

04:27:28.940 don't you think that he should be providing for us to have for me to even consider having his kids or

04:27:35.660 no i think that he should be in a position in which he can provide for the children in his family

04:27:40.140 especially at almost 15 15 years older does that mean taking you to the bahamas and giving you

04:27:46.300 ten thousand dollars or i never said give ten thousand dollars is that ten thousand dollars a

04:27:50.780 month for you to go zip lining and hang gliding that's providing for you and the kids no no no

04:27:55.020 it's not no it's not y'all taking my words out of my mouth what i'm just saying what i'm just saying is

04:28:00.380 like at that that dinosaur age you should wow you should you should be doing more than if i'm

04:28:09.580 gonna have kids with somebody my age that's just my take that you should be doing more yeah do you

04:28:16.060 think that do you think that a man who is in his 40s who by your own admission is going to have more

04:28:21.260 resources than man at 25 you'd have to don't you think he'd be better to provide for your children

04:28:26.060 that's what i'm saying yeah well then he is doing more no i'm just asking he's just not doing more for

04:28:30.380 you he's doing more for the offspring just not for you so by default you don't get the pearls you know

04:28:37.980 the kids get new clothes that's that's how it goes you know you don't get the pearls you don't get

04:28:43.180 the big diamond the kids get the better school the kids get the better education kids get the better

04:28:47.500 life that sounds like a sad life i will just it sounds like a sad life to prefer to make up the

04:28:55.020 preferences the children over yourself no why can't we all have a beautiful life well i mean what

04:29:01.420 that's great you could right you can you can't you know what you can have it all right you can have

04:29:08.140 five kids and ten thousand dollars bahama vacations it's just kind of everything you want it doesn't

04:29:12.540 cost ten thousand princess treatment okay princess treatment uh a couple questions here with bricks

04:29:18.620 with gold in their pockets just waiting they can't wait to have nine nine kids oh a couple things here

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04:29:40.060 thing so just really quick going around the table i showed you the photos of henry cavill cavill sorry if

04:29:46.060 i'm up his last name 40 years old would you date him assuming you're single right no because of his age

04:29:56.220 image just well i don't he's not your type tall handsome rich successful i don't know what he looks

04:30:04.540 like i didn't see oh you but i also when i directed your attention i don't know anything about him like

04:30:10.620 i don't if he had a swell personality to go to the images like he could have a cool personality and

04:30:17.260 whatever and like we could have no connection or we could have nothing in common you felt a connection with

04:30:22.700 him henry cavill you felt a connection with this guy he was great he was like you felt like you met

04:30:28.700 your spirit animal age as my you felt like you felt like you'd finally met the one but he's you know 40

04:30:34.540 and rich arguably highly successful and good-looking he's the same age as my stepdad and i could never

04:30:41.180 feel like i would feel comfortable bringing him home to meet my parents like it would feel weird to me

04:30:45.100 i mean that'd be a huge w to bring henry cavill to your parents but okay they'd be like good for

04:30:52.300 you okay he's not my type what's your time oh we should we will go around on types on this what's

04:30:57.660 your type really quick though my best friend says i like muppets i don't know if that i don't know if

04:31:02.700 that makes sense do they have the broccoli haircut some you like guys with the broccoli i don't know what 0.98

04:31:08.380 what the fuck is a muppet what's a muppet like okay so their faces are more round and softer 0.97

04:31:16.380 features compared to like being chiseled and like is this an actual like term a muppet or did you just 0.99

04:31:22.220 no my best friend made that up muppet yeah what does that mean they're just okay soft feminine

04:31:27.660 facial features not like feminine facial features just like like uh tell us a famous actor that we can

04:31:34.460 well the guy who just pulled up had a very like chiseled face so probably the opposite of him

04:31:40.620 timothy chalamet is he a muppet no is that a muppet who's the guy who plays spencer from

04:31:47.500 that big bang theory show no big no spencer from that spencer reed the scientist guy the is that

04:31:58.780 can you google that who's spencer reed i think it's spencer reed from like

04:32:03.180 which show no like ncis or something like spencer reed criminal minds

04:32:10.060 criminal minds 0.99

04:32:13.820 this is a muppet it's a muppet 0.98

04:32:17.820 so like kind of hipster-ish like looks like he went to a liberal arts college like

04:32:24.460 you want to pull she like kinds of i don't know what a muppet honestly i don't know i don't really

04:32:35.500 care all right what about you no not my time henry cavill bro these girls are so okay all right he seems

04:32:44.460 really genuine and i like how he carries himself so yeah that's a superman um yeah for sure if you're

04:32:53.420 single if i was single he's i mean on look scale he's not really my type so

04:33:00.700 um yeah if i was single yeah he seems pretty cool

04:33:04.940 not people's okay all right all right okay okay uh the other question i was going to go back to you

04:33:12.220 you got a lot of you guys said predatory right and i'm kind of confused by that one thing that's

04:33:17.660 occurred to me is going around the table uh do you like tall men are you attracted to tall men

04:33:25.180 honestly i don't really have a preference like if they're above like five foot six five foot six and

04:33:32.460 above which five foot six is pretty short for a man then i don't really have an issue

04:33:37.020 you're you're currently dating a guy correct yeah how tall is he i think he's like five ten

04:33:43.100 maybe five eleven like okay what about the what about the guy who you can't really comment on how

04:33:49.020 tall was he i think six feet any other boyfriends you said you you dated a guy for 11 months was that

04:33:58.540 the guy no how tall was your 11 month boyfriend like six feet but like i didn't oh that's well it's

04:34:05.500 interesting that well you say you would date a guy who's but all the men you've been in relationships

04:34:10.540 with you said well two of them have been six nine how many boyfriends have you had i guess four

04:34:17.820 okay one was five nine so okay but do you like tall men do you find tall men attractive well like i'm

04:34:26.700 already pretty short so if they're taller than me i'm like five three five i mean okay

04:34:31.580 mm-hmm yes you like tall men yes i haven't dated all all heights so sure how tall are you i'm five

04:34:41.500 eight you're five feet five eight oh five eight yes you're just asking what the preference is like

04:34:47.660 so you date a guy who's shorter than you i have and i've dated the same height and i've dated taller

04:34:52.780 you don't have any like leaning towards men who are tall now i i would wouldn't mind if they're a

04:35:01.340 little taller than me that would be she wouldn't mind have you ever been on do you have dating apps

04:35:06.220 or have you ever been on the dating app of course did you ever filter by height no on any of that okay

04:35:14.380 i feel like a lot a lot of cap but okay what about you um it's not a deal breaker height but

04:35:20.780 absolutely yeah i find tallness attractive what about you 100 and i i don't think i could date

04:35:25.420 someone shorter than me my husband's six four so and i'll tell you five ten what about you oh yeah

04:35:31.020 i prefer taller prefer taller okay so i mean using your guys's logic when it comes to the whole predatory

04:35:37.100 thing women who are attracted to tall men so okay you comparing men wanting to date younger 0.52

04:35:46.140 keyword adult women keyword adult women i think is as crazy as me saying women who want to date taller 0.59

04:35:53.100 men are incestophiles are what in set you're in here's why you have some weird incestuous fetish

04:36:03.100 fetishization of your fathers because you want to look up to a tall man and say take care of me tall 0.92

04:36:10.140 men protect me tall man you are incestuous and predatory for seeking out tall men to satisfy 0.93

04:36:16.860 your perverse incestuous fantasies what jokes on you because i'm sure i'm sure i'm taller than my

04:36:23.020 daddy so what if your dad is shorter yeah no but it's almost like shorter than the daughter but it's

04:36:30.620 almost like this like uh you got me but i i mean i didn't like the diatribe it was good it was good

04:36:41.020 right no but it's like what they really want to say is men are p words for being attracted to adult

04:36:50.220 women who are young that's what they really want to say they want to say that men are our p words don't 0.65

04:36:56.780 put words in their mouth yeah well predatory i mean you're one step away from basically calling men

04:37:01.900 who are attracted to 18 19 20 21 year old women it's schrodinger's it's schrodinger's feminist 0.99

04:37:07.820 let's refer to as schrodinger's feminist which is i'm a boss bitch awesome kick-ass 18 year old 1.00

04:37:13.820 i'm gonna take on the world i can vote i can do all this shit but then it the everything except 0.99

04:37:19.340 of course date an older man right i don't have because that's predatory and they have way too much 0.99

04:37:24.060 more experienced and just poor me they they could just take advantage of me honestly the woman is 0.98

04:37:30.300 at a huge disadvantage in age gap relationships i'm gonna be honest yeah should 18 year old women be 1.00

04:37:36.060 ceos a huge disadvantage yeah should 18 year old women be ceos i i don't think maybe they should 1.00

04:37:42.620 they can be but there's a lot of life experience why shouldn't they be anyways why no why shouldn't they

04:37:48.940 be ceos there's nothing wrong with an 18 year old woman being a ceo right there's nothing wrong with 1.00

04:37:53.900 how big the company is there's nothing wrong with an 18 year old woman being a ceo she's an ass kicking 1.00

04:37:58.460 boss chick at 18 right she can do all that can an 18 year old ceo date a 50 year old dude is that okay 1.00

04:38:04.380 that's not no honestly literally it's not okay like you don't understand like the man has like

04:38:08.940 she can be in charge of a whole corporation no but he has years of experience she could fire a 1.00

04:38:14.140 50 year old but can't date him you don't know his dating history you don't know what what he does to

04:38:18.940 woman like like he just he just had so much life experience to run game on woman you're putting

04:38:23.100 yourself at risk i got a question let's say there's a 35 year old man who's a virgin and he doesn't have a

04:38:29.580 lot of experience and there's a 19 year old woman who's a stripper who's had sex with 20 men she's 1.00

04:38:40.060 dated a bunch of men had sex with 20 men um who has the the greater relational real relationship

04:38:48.300 experience in that situation ship i would argue the woman that the 19 year old woman is going to run 1.00

04:38:53.900 circles around that 35 year old guy yeah so is she a predator is she is that predatory no what 1.00

04:39:06.780 that's literally the same thing just in reverse what would make her not when i say predatory for

04:39:11.980 the age gap thing because like i said i i prefer older men i'm talking about guys that are like near

04:39:17.180 like ger what you call it geriatric like they need like they have arthritis and like a young woman like 1.00

04:39:22.700 that's just weird but but yeah but that doesn't make any sense also when you say what makes that 0.99

04:39:29.340 person a predator because they have arthritis like what the fuck are you talking about like i'm talking 0.92

04:39:36.060 about a man who has like kids the same age as the girl that he's dating yeah what would make that 0.99

04:39:41.740 predatory so you see basically you're saying you're comfortable i didn't say anything i asked you what

04:39:46.380 makes it predatory because inherently that guy is a danger because he would sleep with girls that are the 0.87

04:39:52.380 same age as his daughter why would that make him a danger okay now you just ask him a silly question

04:39:56.940 that's not a silly question you say you say this is predatory i say okay great what makes her

04:40:02.140 predatory if they have arthritis okay wait what no okay that's not what i meant i meant that it's

04:40:07.500 predatory to date a woman who could be the same age as your daughter okay why is that predatory i don't

04:40:13.100 know if they're not silly questions like why what makes them a predator are you looking at your

04:40:17.740 daughter that way no what makes it predatory it makes it predatory because now if you out here

04:40:22.540 sleeping with save your daughter's 19 like that genius level by the way 19 year old girls and your 1.00

04:40:28.620 daughter wants to have a sleepover with the girls at your house and her dad's house you mean the girls 0.96

04:40:33.340 the girls can't come because you're a predator you're looking at young women so wait let me get this 0.70

04:40:37.420 right if your adult daughter were to bring other adult women over to your house 19 year olds you mean adults 1.00

04:40:45.260 that ain't no real adult it's not a real adult wait no no when you were 19 didn't you date older men

04:40:53.340 no i i just really started when i was 21. oh the difference between 19 and 21 is night and day

04:41:00.620 i mean that is that you went from your teenage years to your adult years is like the most uh rapid

04:41:07.580 progression of maturity other than a newborn 19 years old is the end of being a teenager one and two if

04:41:14.940 that's the case then why are we considering teenagers at the late years to be adults i just

04:41:19.980 think that a guy should not be dating of a woman that is a young woman that i know we know that we 0.99

04:41:25.500 know you think that that's bad we know you think that that's wrong we want to know why you think

04:41:29.420 it's predatory and so far what we've gotten is nothing okay don't just tell us why it's predatory i

04:41:35.900 literally explained like if you can be comfortable with sleeping with a young woman that's the same age as

04:41:41.740 your daughter there's an issue with you mentally what makes you a predator someone take the mic i 0.76

04:41:48.780 don't know i can't can anybody answer what would make you a predator just like just just making the

04:41:54.860 statement just making the assertion it does doesn't tell us anything and also you're you're 22 and you're

04:42:01.420 dating a 36 year old yeah but like but if he was 38 he'd be a predator no no no no i'm talking about

04:42:08.700 like a 50 year old man and like a 19 year old what about but of course in your situation it's fine

04:42:17.020 he got this covered right you got this covered just other women what about you could you date a 50 1.00

04:42:22.780 year old you know what i don't want to air my business out here but like no wait she had you 0.99

04:42:28.300 have dated a 50 year old people like people have been interested in me that are that age but like it's

04:42:33.340 just would you take a trip to the bahamas from him no no no okay uh let's move on let's move on i'm

04:42:45.020 trying to see where i am here in my notes uh let's see where did she's where uh i think we left we

04:42:52.940 finished up with our notes here from isabella oh wait hold on oh you isabella you wanted to talk a bit

04:42:59.260 about dating apps you're not a fan of dating apps which ones were you on um i have used

04:43:06.940 not for very long but i have been on tinder bumble and hinge okay just to see what what was up like

04:43:14.620 yeah and you said anyone can lie on there and it seems like a safety issue if you don't have any

04:43:19.020 mutuals yeah i agree i think it's better to meet people naturally like in an organic setting you are

04:43:24.700 right people can really lie on there especially women who use filters makeup and photoshop almost 1.00

04:43:32.220 exclusively on your filters you have a very good point there isabella that's why i'm not personally

04:43:36.620 a big fan of um dating apps is the misrepresentation when it comes to one's physical appearance yeah it's

04:43:42.380 not just women either it's men and it's also not just physical appearances that can also be like

04:43:46.460 their whole personality and their life story what's up nick oh okay um so men men are lying wholesale

04:43:58.060 on the dating apps well men and women like well here going around the table do you guys think it's

04:44:02.780 wrong for men for example to uh lie about their uh height on a dating app not that i think it's wrong

04:44:09.980 but it's like unnecessary because you're gonna find out how tall they are anyways so it's like what's the

04:44:14.060 point what's the point what's the point of wearing makeup well i mean at least for me like right now

04:44:19.900 i just curled my eyelashes i have some concealer on oh i mean i you've been invited on a recorded

04:44:26.620 podcast so i don't object to women wearing makeup for this podcast but like in the sort of broader

04:44:31.980 social sense it's it seems to me that uh there's a lot of filter usage makeup usage photoshop usage

04:44:38.780 uh yeah i was gonna answer you because like you're asking like why do women wear makeup not 1.00

04:44:47.180 not really but the question was like do you would you have an issue with men lying about their height

04:44:51.580 on a dating app not that like i think it's kind of weird like why would you lie because i'm gonna see

04:44:56.300 how tall you are anyway so it's like that's like it's it's a lie right it's a misrepresentation it's not

04:45:02.060 the actual truth yeah yeah so do you think makeup is a lie it's not the truth of what you actually

04:45:09.020 look like would you agree with that yeah but you can take it off like you can't change your height

04:45:15.900 okay how you look with makeup what's that it's how you look with makeup it's not explicitly lying how

04:45:21.180 about this let's say a guy hmm he wore uh lifts in his shoes he can take them off you'll see

04:45:31.100 eventually his actual height and let's say you didn't meet him on a dating app but you met him

04:45:35.420 in person and he was wearing three inch lifts would that not be really fair to the woman who 1.00

04:45:43.740 maybe has preference for dating taller men of course yeah so then so too should wearing makeup is that not 1.00

04:45:51.740 fair to men but you can see the makeup on my face i can't see the lips and you can maybe look at the

04:45:57.660 heels of his shoes you know you should know that men maybe wear lifts what's that well like men can

04:46:04.540 choose to swipe left on women who look like they're wearing a lot of makeup in their photos on their

04:46:09.020 dating profile okay sure i would also argue that some men who are perhaps on the younger side or a bit

04:46:15.420 naive might actually believe that that face filter that women are using is actually like how they might 1.00

04:46:21.820 actually look yeah but what is depending depending on the degree some face filters it's very obvious

04:46:28.780 but others maybe not yeah but usually face filters they might just like smooth your skin a bit but

04:46:34.220 you inherently look like i mean filters can substantially change your appearance it depends what type of

04:46:43.260 yeah i didn't believe that myself until until i went on this show and i'd watch it later and i would

04:46:51.740 literally see all the women in camera and i'd go none of those chicks looked anything like that in person 1.00

04:46:58.940 there's something wrong with my optical camera in my head or like you girls know how to look good on 0.91

04:47:04.940 camera because that that's just me is there a filter on this show no no no just maybe it's the lighting

04:47:13.980 i don't know i don't know no we don't no filters though i think it's unwise to use filters uh at all

04:47:19.580 but especially on a dating app i mean why would you want to do that misrepresent or maybe men should

04:47:24.780 start lying about their jobs but they how much money they make yeah that's wrong that's wrong yeah we're

04:47:31.980 saying that that's not good i have can i tell a quick lying dating app experience it's very quick

04:47:36.460 yeah go ahead so um how old i was probably like 18 or 19 and um i had matched with this guy on a

04:47:43.260 dating app and um he appeared to be in his early 30s and i wasn't really bothered by that and he took

04:47:49.740 me out to a very nice restaurant ha ha ha kiki having a great time actually and he gets really drunk

04:47:58.140 he's like four drinks in and he said i have a funny joke for you and i was like what's the joke

04:48:03.420 and he was like i'm actually like not 30 i was like wait how old are you he's like i'm 42 and he

04:48:09.660 started laughing and i was like that's a danger that's that's dangerous like why would you lie about

04:48:16.620 that did you finish the date well yeah we were at ketchup i was gonna eat my food but i never saw him

04:48:21.900 again wait you gotta finish the date right i guess i got a question for the girls so if i could wave a

04:48:30.940 magical wand that just totally eliminated makeup cosmetics so it just leveled the playing field 0.88

04:48:38.380 for all women so there's just no women wore makeup so conceivably you would feel less inclined to have

04:48:44.540 to compete by also wearing makeup would you be in favor of it what about like people who already have

04:48:51.100 plastic surgery though because that's a cheat yes we take yeah that's the magic wand magic wand 0.98

04:48:57.020 here's my pen okay what's the fucking spell from harry potter jay butler the creature in blue has 1.00

04:49:05.260 inflated senses creature in blue the toilet paper i wipe my arse with ends up looking better than you 0.99

04:49:10.860 wow whoa jay butler pop up valtrex for your herpes and come what what had jay butler all of a sudden 0.98

04:49:17.100 in 2024 has just decided to um go just what what scorched earth what did i do to you what did you do

04:49:25.900 why are you so mad who hurt you jay butler like what who hurt you okay if i could wave a magic wand

04:49:33.020 and just all makeup gone would you what do you guys go for it why not yeah yeah

04:49:39.820 totally are you gonna get rid of my acne no you don't want to what's that are you gonna get rid

04:49:46.700 of my acne your acne remains magic wand then but all all the other women with acne can't 1.00

04:49:53.420 they don't get to wear makeup there's also women who don't have acne that what then it's like it's 1.00

04:49:59.900 still so everybody can have acne and no makeup yeah exactly it'd be more even okay everyone to have

04:50:05.820 the option to wear makeup rather than no one because there's people who struggle with like

04:50:09.900 scars or like burns acne different things and then you know they're looking at these people

04:50:15.020 with clear complexions and it could just be their genetics or whatever they're just genetically blessed

04:50:19.020 and then it just feels like you're still going to compare yourself to them whether you have makeup

04:50:22.620 doesn't makeup make acne worse no really it doesn't clog your pores and depends i can make out with

04:50:30.780 a girl with acne or sorry excuse me i can make out sorry i can make out with a girl who's wearing 0.79

04:50:36.460 makeup and her makeup will give me acne well what kind of makeup is she oh the brand matters 1.00

04:50:45.340 you're introducing artificial crap paint on your face i don't care what the brand is like 0.87

04:50:51.020 skincare and makeup put together same with clinic and like i'm someone like i struggled with like 0.97

04:50:56.860 terrible terrible acne the makeup did the makeup i didn't even wear makeup before okay so let's just

04:51:02.540 say that you can have all the skin care that you need absent makeup as well yeah if my skin was

04:51:09.020 perfect i'm not saying your skin's perfect so the point the point of his hypothetical is to just say

04:51:13.580 this saying you're competing either way so if we absent the makeup from all women right you're still 1.00

04:51:20.300 competing with other women and if you have makeup you're still competing with other women but to me it's

04:51:24.620 not about competing with other women like as someone who struggled with severe acne and i had

04:51:28.380 to go on accutane and all this medications products thousands of dollars put into it like

04:51:33.820 i really did it for myself because like it got so bad to where when i would look in the mirror

04:51:37.740 i'd want to cry like i didn't want to go makeup was not a requisite for treating it and no because i

04:51:42.620 and i wouldn't even put makeup on it because putting makeup on it made it look worse because then

04:51:46.300 it just looks like a bunch of bumps so what does that do with makeup then well yeah so what i'm saying

04:51:51.660 is that it's still like i could at least get rid of the redness and i could feel you mean with makeup

04:52:00.060 yeah i could feel like a little bit better and not like a completely terrible like ugly monster

04:52:06.380 looking individual when i look in the mirror right but he's just saying that all other women who have 0.93

04:52:11.180 that same problem would be in the same exact boat right they also would not be able to cover up whatever

04:52:16.620 deficiencies they perceive that they had uh versus would be able to so you're still you're not in

04:52:22.620 any worse position you're just not able to put yourself in the best position i i guess so

04:52:31.100 magic wand magic wand all makeup disappears did we did everybody get to answer i want to

04:52:37.660 i didn't i didn't fully understand the question if i could if just makeup was banned

04:52:42.620 all makeup disappeared you couldn't wear makeup anymore would you choose that reality or the

04:52:49.260 current reality that we have to be honest i'd probably pick the current reality yeah

04:52:56.780 i think i i think i i'm not sure but i think i would probably go with the magic wand

04:53:04.620 i mean i would stick with this reality so people have the choice but day to day i don't wear makeup

04:53:10.860 so him it saved time and money so it'd be great yeah it's good either way either way um no i don't

04:53:19.500 agree i don't want the wand yeah well i think it's different if like if it's all just now taken away

04:53:27.100 versus if it never existed in the first place yeah if it never existed in the first place then like it

04:53:32.060 would make no difference because no one would know but if it's just now taken away i mean i know your

04:53:37.740 whole point is to get at like oh your looks and everything but this would take away like millions

04:53:42.620 of jobs too well i kind of agree if makeup filters all this stuff never existed i think

04:53:49.580 women would be in a much better position mental because like it wouldn't matter in the first place 1.00

04:53:54.380 because no one would have known or used it in the first place anyways so there would be no basis for

04:54:00.460 comparison yeah yeah exactly yeah but but you said there would be job loss right yeah if you

04:54:08.060 mean all makeup disappeared be all the people yeah it's a the cosmetic industry has a has a very

04:54:15.020 strong interest in keeping women feeling insecure about their physical appearance so they can keep 1.00

04:54:20.940 selling you crap to put on your face and sell you i don't know how much i'd like to go around the table 0.97

04:54:26.060 on this maybe some of you spend less some of you spend more maybe we could even google how much the 0.99

04:54:31.580 average woman spends a year on makeup how much do you spend a year on cosmetics i don't buy a lot of

04:54:36.460 makeup okay like i mean i think it's well like you were saying it's not something that i like absolutely

04:54:46.140 need like i don't put on a full face every day i'm not one of those types of people but i i still enjoy

04:54:52.060 like if i'm going to a nice event or a nice dinner like something where i want to look really put

04:54:56.700 together and i put the time in to get a nice outfit put a nice outfit to my hair then i i want the face

04:55:02.140 to match too you know i'm not going to just show up with like all my acne scars and when the rest of

04:55:07.820 me is done up it's just not going to look as put together not saying there's anything wrong with

04:55:11.420 going to an event with no makeup but for me personally i would like to have that option to

04:55:15.500 look as put together as possible okay look at the end of the day these cosmetic companies

04:55:25.420 want you continue want you to continue to be self-conscious and insecure about your physical

04:55:31.500 appearance and it's billion dollar multi i mean i it's i think cosmetic use it's almost like approaching

04:55:40.540 i don't know how much it is per year i think worldwide it's like half a trillion dollars is

04:55:45.740 spent by women on cosmetics so of course these companies want to keep you dependent on the paint 0.81

04:55:56.140 as i'm going to call it but you're so hopelessly dependent this is going to get clipped so you're

04:56:04.060 so hopelessly dependent on the system that you will fight to protect it

04:56:16.220 i don't even know where i'm going with this i don't know where i'm going with this i guess i

04:56:20.060 just want you guys to admit that makeup is a lie i don't think it's a you're misrepresenting your

04:56:24.940 physical appearance i we don't even like well oh speaking of what if people like nowadays like

04:56:32.700 get procedures done so you don't have to wear as much makeup yeah like that's how the world

04:56:38.940 okay that's i'm still against that too you mean like tat like eyebrow tattoos or that or you get

04:56:46.700 like your facials once a month yeah or you get filler morpheus well then i mean i don't know about

04:56:54.940 some of that stuff i mean are then are you getting into like more of a skin care it's a balance between

04:57:00.620 like skin care and filler i think the difference is with with makeup it's within 30 minutes you can

04:57:07.180 have like a veneer that's not like what you otherwise look like whereas if you're taking

04:57:14.460 care of your skin you're eating you know eating well that's that's kind of different i agree cut

04:57:19.820 in here i do think makeup is a lie and because i do acting also and i took masks and makeup as a class

04:57:27.340 and um i could make myself look like a man if i do different contouring i can make myself look like

04:57:33.180 a clown i could do all kinds of stuff and all that would be technically a lie and an illusion yeah but

04:57:38.300 that's kind of a different context i'm not waking up and going to school in a clown makeup and trying

04:57:43.820 to convince people i'm a clown i was trying to go to the extreme just to prove they're asking if you're in

04:57:49.740 the nuance here you're asking them really about deception so just ask it a different way well i

04:57:55.820 think the only way it's a lie is if someone is wearing makeup not a lie but a deception no i i

04:58:02.060 was going to say i think it's a lie if someone's wearing makeup and you say you're not wearing makeup

04:58:07.020 that's obviously a lie like you're trying to come off as if you just look like this with nothing on

04:58:11.420 which a lot of women really don't do that and i'm sure if like you're on a dating app and you ask 1.00

04:58:16.060 them like oh i'd love to see your natural face like without makeup send me a selfie and they send

04:58:19.900 you a picture of them they'd probably be insulted by that maybe but like a lot of women would be 1.00

04:58:25.020 insulted yeah but if you really wanted to know and you really wanted to not be lied to or like well

04:58:30.700 it's not it's not really anything that the woman is saying or doing here's what it comes down to

04:58:38.540 physical attraction is is really an instantaneous thing so when you see a beautiful woman and perhaps

04:58:44.540 her beauty is increased by some capacity through her use of makeup you are tricking men 1.00

04:58:54.620 in a way like it's not like we don't look at a girl and we have like an intellectual thought process

04:59:00.620 of like we don't intellectualize ooh like her you know uh oh her eyelashes like a really make her eye 1.00

04:59:07.180 pot like we instant you see her face you've instantly made an assessment on her physical attractiveness 0.56

04:59:15.420 if there's someone who likes to wear a lot of makeup very frequently then why would it matter

04:59:21.180 anyways if most of the time you see them they're going to be wearing makeup well i think it matters

04:59:25.980 for men because when they're looking at genetics to say okay if we have a baby together what are they

04:59:31.340 going to look like which also plays into plastic surgery because now you don't know like is my baby

04:59:36.780 going to have those lips well no because they're not real or you know is they going to have these eyes

04:59:41.100 well they look bigger because of makeup is that what men are thinking about when they're

04:59:45.500 like what are our children going to look like they're just moving into preference again so it's

04:59:48.460 like it's like this let's pretend for a second i don't know where this would ever happen nowhere

04:59:54.860 right but we'll just pretend anyway there's some guy he's 25 years old he's a chic he's a prince

05:00:01.340 right he's the most handsomest man in the whole wide world and he has a billion dollars in the

05:00:05.180 bank and he puts out this criteria for women and he's like i only want a woman who has this hair 0.96

05:00:10.860 color and looks like this and has this eye color and that's it right and so let's say she puts in 0.98

05:00:18.300 contact lenses and she dyes her hair and she puts on all kinds of makeup to fit that appearance and

05:00:23.020 then presents herself and he's like you're perfect you're exactly what i was looking for she's like yay

05:00:27.660 great that's what i've always wanted and then the next morning the makeup wipes come on he's like you

05:00:32.460 don't look anything like what it was that i was requesting did you deceive him that's the question

05:00:36.780 did you deceive him yes yes yes that's that's the whole point right i just feel like makeup shouldn't

05:00:44.300 be used as a mask makeup should just be used to enhance what you naturally have so at the end of

05:00:49.340 the day like i know i can be wearing a full face beat and i could take off my makeup at any time if

05:00:54.060 i'm chilling with my boo and i'm cool you know i don't look a lot different than i do without makeup

05:00:59.660 but to each his own yeah i mean do we you said you look at these videos later and you said we

05:01:05.580 look much different than we're being portrayed there like do we look a ton different or do we

05:01:09.820 look like well it's not every girl i'm just saying a lot of them do i was just curious generally yeah

05:01:15.660 so do you i it looks like you guys both have like hair products in do you think that doing your hair

05:01:21.260 with hair products just like doing your face with face products same like i just put a little maple

05:01:26.940 syrup i put a little maple wait hold on sorry repeat that like do you think you're being deceitful

05:01:31.900 because like your natural self your hair doesn't look like that or else you wouldn't have to use

05:01:36.140 product to make it look like that so uh well so i think that the kind of the distinction is is that

05:01:44.220 if i have my hair combed or i don't have my hair combed there's not going to be a great intense

05:01:49.340 distinction of what i really look like whereas i think for women there's a huge distinction in what

05:01:54.220 they actually look like always no i didn't say always okay but generally speaking i think there

05:02:00.940 is there's a distinction especially if you see a woman who's dialed up and then later on you find

05:02:07.660 out oh wait a second you know what i mean you really don't look that much like that nick can you google

05:02:12.460 makeup before after images tab well it's probably going to show the most extreme before and afters

05:02:18.940 i think right but can we like maybe there's extreme but like maybe some women are operating 1.00

05:02:25.500 in the middle somewhere i think it's i think you need to be more worried about plastic surgery and

05:02:29.580 makeup i'm very much against plastic surgery too because that's the highest level although i will say that

05:02:39.180 i think like makeup

05:02:40.860 makeup you can trick a dude but like as a guy if you're not if you find plastic surgery unattractive

05:02:52.060 i mean i don't know because someone's gonna go get a fake nose a chin implant like do so many

05:02:57.420 small tweaks and like nick then you see their baby picture and it's somebody different

05:03:03.020 yeah did you do makeup before after images oh i would say the makeup folder no no no google makeup

05:03:09.980 before after but there are also a lot of straight men starting to wear makeup now too yeah

05:03:19.340 and you know what i would actually argue that the vast majority of women would find it f11 please nick 0.98

05:03:26.540 um would find it unattractive for a guy to wear makeup they'd be like why are you a pussy who who says 1.00

05:03:35.260 that most women would be like i don't want to date a guy who wears makeup you you disagree you think 0.99

05:03:41.020 most women would i mean i don't know i haven't asked most women you you date a guy who who wore a

05:03:46.860 full face of makeup really sure yeah why not he's not talking about like guy liner from a rock band

05:03:52.460 or something he's talking about you know a guy who's wearing real makeup yeah no i've seen straight

05:03:57.980 men especially on tick tock they'll like use concealer line up their beard line up their hairline

05:04:02.940 fill in their eyebrows a little bit like maybe put on some blush powder and it's enough to like

05:04:08.300 make your complexion even maybe like make your eyebrows a little more shapely um it's not like

05:04:15.260 they're looking like james charles okay here go ahead nick you can um let's i'm trying to find a

05:04:23.260 good transformation here uh that second one the pinterest one it's going it looks like she's okay

05:04:30.220 that's od and honestly that's glam like no woman who's unless you're very all right we'll scroll

05:04:35.260 down okay here the girl in purple she looks better in the before girl in purple okay that's that's like

05:04:42.140 i think that's you would see a girl walking around with that amount of makeup that she's wearing that's 1.00

05:04:47.500 not like excessive i think i actually think she looks fine without the makeup to be honest yeah

05:04:56.780 scroll down like if someone has that much glam you're already gonna know like they they're not

05:05:02.460 gonna look like that because you can see how much makeup they're wearing men don't have a trained eye

05:05:08.060 for that just so you know but you can't see the pores you can't see the the colored like eyelids 0.97

05:05:15.020 and the eyelashes no we don't pay any attention to that we don't put on makeup so yeah we don't

05:05:19.900 know we're not we're looking we don't know what we're looking about makeup and so much about like

05:05:24.700 well it's not first of all you can't attribute brian's positions to these things to mine

05:05:29.900 so i didn't say a word about makeup one way or the other then yeah i'm just i'm the makeup hater

05:05:35.660 i'm just explaining to you uh i can understand that this is being utilized or can be utilized

05:05:41.500 for the purposes of deception that's all i'm saying that's it so in that case and so in this case uh

05:05:50.860 you know the women who are up there some of them clearly can use this for deception and no i don't 1.00

05:05:56.380 think that men pay that much attention i don't think we really know the difference if it's a gal we're 1.00

05:06:01.500 meeting for the first time i don't think we have any idea let's pull up the tweets nick

05:06:05.580 we're gonna switch gears here haley here hallie sorry hallie hallie we we got some of your tweets

05:06:15.020 uh scroll up make it bigger please my tweets i should know i should have one okay it's sad that

05:06:19.660 men no longer value women with hustle ambition and education these days so question for you that was

05:06:24.940 a while ago do you think men ever valued those things in women um as i get older no but i tweeted

05:06:31.820 that when i was like 18. well pull it back up nick

05:06:38.380 2021 so that was can you put us on the other side so i was 19 yeah

05:06:44.140 so what two and a half years ago yeah and i and i was like mad i was like but i heard like about

05:06:48.940 like a situation but like now that i'm like older like yeah i don't really think men really value that

05:06:54.540 at all any any women at the panel have any thoughts on that agree disagree you're saying men don't value

05:07:03.260 women with hustle and education like i would say like most high earning men know 1.00

05:07:13.020 okay hustle ambition and education so when it comes to the men don't value it in women 0.59

05:07:19.180 in terms of it making women more attractive to men so i would argue that most men are not

05:07:28.860 particularly preoccupied with your ambition your money your career success your educational achievement

05:07:36.540 in terms of it making you more attractive yeah now i realize that okay i disagree disagree

05:07:44.300 i also you guys feel free this is like uh i'm opening it up wait like your ambition makes you

05:07:50.220 okay here i'll agree or disagree uh disagree like i i believe that men do actually care about that

05:07:56.300 stuff okay what about you some men care okay most men do not care most men do not care

05:08:05.980 do you object to men not caring about that or do you object that men don't really care about it not

05:08:12.300 if it doesn't relate to a personal relationship though um you said you've changed i said i've

05:08:17.660 changed now that i've realized that's the truth and i'm okay with it but sometimes i'm like i don't know

05:08:24.140 say if i'm like really interested in a person and i know deep down he really doesn't care like what i do

05:08:29.020 at all it makes me a little sad because it's like wow like i'm i have a lot more to speak about than

05:08:37.500 you know uh what do you do again i do marketing marketing okay and you you got a bachelor's degree

05:08:46.140 yeah both of you went to pepperdine you said yeah what did you get your bachelor's in i didn't get

05:08:50.700 my bachelor's degree oh did you are you still working on it or you just you on break dropped out um i

05:08:57.020 guess break well like my my work endeavors are like the degree isn't really needed so i've been gaining

05:09:04.780 a lot more experience but you know if i ever want to change paths then i'll go back to school okay

05:09:11.340 i mean you're in marketing you're also in marketing yeah you're saying you spend all that time to get

05:09:18.540 a bachelor's degree and men don't even give a it's good for you but like from a

05:09:24.860 dating perspective i don't even know why i have it honestly yeah they just don't know you should

05:09:29.660 look you can get it for you but like you have to understand that men most men don't care from

05:09:37.820 in terms of a like making you more attractive to them yeah now i completely realize that i'm just

05:09:43.820 saying like i have an issue with when you can you can tell when someone's genuinely disinterested and

05:09:50.380 like for example babe how was your day what was your day i talked about i have meetings this and this

05:09:55.100 you could tell when they don't care you know so it would be nice to just kind of pretend to care

05:09:59.900 a little bit i think honestly yeah but they don't care i don't care they don't care you might just be 0.85

05:10:07.340 oh shitty guys here wait wait did you you've been to work recently friday were you last at work no 0.93

05:10:15.260 are you not working right now i kind of like doing my own thing so i kind of like make my own schedule 0.99

05:10:19.100 okay pretend i'm your boyfriend complain to me about your job oh i used to do this a lot i hate 0.66

05:10:28.380 my job i hate these people i work with i need to leave wow babe that was a great story anyways can you uh

05:10:41.100 go get me uh some water please thank you like i would have people tell me like just quit

05:10:49.100 but okay i okay then actually no no i i want to approach this from a different angle because if

05:10:59.020 you have some interesting anecdote that happened at your job me personally look i i don't think i would

05:11:05.340 like recoil from hearing your story about whatever happened but bringing it back to kind of the central

05:11:11.500 thing of do men like does your job does your hustle does your ambition does your educational achievement

05:11:20.380 make you more attractive as a partner to men broadly speaking no no yes oh you think yes absolutely

05:11:30.300 and you think yes so you your job makes you more attractive to men that's yeah so i'm curious so you're

05:11:39.500 22 now right so do you think how far along would you say you're where you're at you want would you

05:11:49.420 say you're where you want to be in your career right now no because i'm still just starting do you think

05:11:54.220 you'll be there at 30 or 35 maybe 40 you'll be further along at 40 right do you think do you think you'll

05:12:01.420 be more attractive to men at 40 than you are now physically or are you talking in totality in totality

05:12:11.580 well other 40 because you said that men care about your success career ambition that's how that's what

05:12:19.340 i found like whenever i tell someone my job they're like let me ask okay here sorry what's that they

05:12:25.500 they literally tell me like they think it's super attractive that i am like working or that your

05:12:32.300 work but what what specifically do you tell them that you're doing they just find it attractive that

05:12:37.740 you are no i tell them like the steps that i like the things that i do in my job like the specifics which

05:12:44.780 is what so i'll do a little bit of video editing i work closely with this youtube channel that has like over

05:12:51.020 a million subscribers shout out rideshare hub wait what what's the ride share hub i thought you said

05:12:58.380 ride share ho no i was like send me that channel um okay uh okay and then i have there's like two

05:13:07.820 creators that i help like get brand deals and do like ad campaigns okay um like filming videos on the

05:13:14.460 youtube channel i've sure and i have a question for you yeah has a man ever lied to you in order to get

05:13:20.060 you into bed whether he did or not do you think a man's ever lied to you yes do you think men lie to

05:13:26.700 get laid they can't do you think do you think men will flatter women or lie to women or compliment women 0.86

05:13:33.900 in an effort to perhaps get on the woman's good side to get laid yes uh some men have done that yeah 0.98

05:13:40.700 well will men even lie about political things to get laid for example a guy might even be pro-life

05:13:46.860 but he'll lie to a woman and say he's pro-choice because he knows he's living in california and he

05:13:51.980 wants to get laid do you think that's happened i've seen that happen with my own two eyes like yeah so

05:13:56.940 is it possible that a man has tried to flatter you oh my god isabella i'm just so impressed by your

05:14:07.260 hustle and you're just you you wear all these hats and your your video editing's on point and it's just

05:14:14.540 i love your ambition do you think it's not it could be flattery and not genuine

05:14:21.420 well but they i it could be yes but also like with working comes making money and my past relationships

05:14:30.620 have really enjoyed when i like spoiled them bought them gifts which i couldn't do if i wasn't

05:14:35.980 working or if i was working they would have enjoyed it just as much if you handcrafted them something

05:14:39.900 i mean yeah but you know like it's like the heart of the question let's say there's a really really

05:14:46.620 really good looking chick who's works at a mcdonald's okay she's really good looking she's 1.00

05:14:51.580 like a 10 okay such a thing exists that's what she is she works in a mcdonald's next door over at the 1.00

05:14:58.140 law firm there's a seven right there's a good established guy who has plenty of his own cash

05:15:04.140 and he can choose between both which do you think he's gonna choose mcdonald's yeah well i mean

05:15:10.620 okay i i do do you want to answer the question though

05:15:15.740 go ahead go ahead okay it's mcdonald's right yeah no i understand what you're saying what if what if

05:15:20.700 what if it's an eight but yeah which one no answer answer is it mcdonald's or is it the lawyer that's

05:15:28.940 what i was gonna say like i don't know because i understand that probably like everyone's put into

05:15:33.260 their own i guess like social yeah we're just talking on average well they could choose but i

05:15:37.740 don't know because i've really been put in this other social bubble that's very different from

05:15:42.140 yours where like the people i know would probably choose the person working in the law firm over the

05:15:50.700 person working at mcdonald's but i'm like i i know that there's tons of people who would choose the

05:15:55.820 person working at mcdonald's so i couldn't give you a definitive answer if it would be one or the other

05:16:01.100 i think it's a red flag if a guy asks you too many questions about your work

05:16:07.180 okay cool wait so okay hold on because because he's he's looking for a come up

05:16:15.100 as that's what i found in my personal experience wait so that so they they want you to have this

05:16:20.460 better like cooler job if they're looking for a come up no no like like if he like like like just

05:16:25.020 asking too many questions about work it's a weird thing to explain it's okay to be like hi hey babe

05:16:28.860 how's your day at work like what'd you do blah blah blah blah but like if he's like oh you need

05:16:34.940 to go get that promotion like no that's just my watching i will say that as a receptionist i actually

05:16:44.620 i think that does benefit me in a relationship because i tend to date men who are better at complex

05:16:51.100 bigger problems because i'm not so good at that but i'm because i do reception i can book us a trip

05:16:57.340 or i can do phone call stuff if they're not as so i'm better at the little things that can be

05:17:01.900 supportive to my partner wait couldn't you do all that without being a receptionist

05:17:06.860 touche yeah bringing it over to you you said you disagreed uh do you care to engage or yes i mean

05:17:16.940 i personally my own experience not to discredit your experience but um i have found that men do tend to

05:17:24.540 say like as soon as they find out um you know that i do like filmmaking stuff like that oh my god

05:17:30.620 that's so interesting that makes you cool and not to not to like i'm just pat i'm just a messenger but

05:17:36.380 they're they'll be like these other girls uh here they don't care about anything they don't have 1.00

05:17:40.780 ambitions they don't do anything but you know i find it cool that you have these things but that's the

05:17:45.900 game that's the game getting to that you did bring up the point of men will lie to sleep with you and i'm

05:17:51.020 like you know what fair point what guy what guy who you're on a date with and you tell him your 0.89

05:17:56.700 oh your job and he's gonna be like i don't give a fuck about your job he's gonna be he's gonna be 0.98

05:18:03.740 polite and you know do these socially courteous thing of oh wow that's you know yeah yeah that's 0.97

05:18:10.940 so cool life that's fucking awesome i like good for you i love it girl he's gonna gas you up so he 0.88

05:18:17.820 can hit it yeah but i think you should be making well i like to make my man feel really powerful 0.95

05:18:23.260 and like good for you i tend to be really and i tend to be like i'm pretty uh what's aggressive

05:18:29.580 in my normal life you're aggressive like in college i used to be like president of everything and like

05:18:34.220 i always had like really high positions so like say if i just got promoted to like vp like i probably

05:18:39.020 won't tell him because he's gonna be like oh my gosh like this girl is like out here arguing on the

05:18:44.140 phone all day whatever i want him to feel like he's the boss good times yeah but don't you think

05:18:51.020 that men still like at the end of the day they do still want their woman to have some sort of goal

05:18:55.660 in life they don't want a woman that just wants to to raise our nine sons of course raising your 1.00

05:19:00.860 kids is important but you don't want someone that has absolutely no personality nothing you can

05:19:06.940 talk to them about and if they don't need not have ambition i mean a job's not your personality

05:19:13.260 a job's not your virtues a job's not any of those things well i was also talking about outside of

05:19:18.300 your job you can have passion projects you can for example like you can be a filmmaker but that's not

05:19:22.540 your job but that's just something you do on the side it doesn't have to be a job you can have hobbies

05:19:27.340 i think everyone would agree they want a partner that at least has one thing they're passionate about to

05:19:31.820 kind of keep them her passion should be me no and our family yeah men want a woman who are 1.00

05:19:37.580 passionate and ambitious even if that means you know being a wife and a homemaker and raising your

05:19:44.540 children i don't give a shit about ambition so you don't want to be with someone who has goals 0.90

05:19:50.060 care about ambition they don't care about you don't care so you want to be with somebody who doesn't 0.95

05:19:53.660 have any goals in life because i didn't say goals i said ambition you don't need to have be ambitious

05:19:58.460 like you ambition i don't think you understand what ambition means why don't you tell me

05:20:05.420 go ahead tell them what i'm not good at uh definitions on the fly at all so i thought

05:20:12.540 i didn't know what it meant what the i mean i don't think you do but just oh i guess well i know you

05:20:18.780 don't because i know for sure you don't you can't even tell me what it means being able to describe

05:20:24.460 something and write you know the what it means in a dictionary is not the same thing

05:20:28.300 no but you brought you said you asked him he doesn't know what you mean by ambition

05:20:33.260 so he's asking you to define it yeah ambition is having i can google it if you want i can google

05:20:39.500 that would be great but ambition is having goals and and seeking to you know uh rise above where

05:20:45.100 you're at you know building skills you know having a goal and trying to reach it andrew do you when

05:20:49.900 you say you don't men don't care about ambition do you mean it within the context of like career

05:20:54.380 achievement academic achievement yeah well what i'm talking about is because what if a woman's 1.00

05:21:00.140 ambitious for a family like you would agree that that would be she's she wants well not even that

05:21:06.220 again we need to kind of narrow down what we mean here when we're talking about ambition so

05:21:11.340 for me when i'm when i'm thinking about ambition i'm thinking of i want to have stellar achievement i

05:21:17.580 i have something which i'm which i'm moving towards which is to rise above some station or

05:21:23.260 to move towards this kind of overtly worthy thing generally speaking no men don't give a 0.99

05:21:31.100 shit like if you start out a good cook and you end up a good cook they don't fucking care they don't 0.99

05:21:35.900 care they don't give a shit they don't want you don't need to become a better and better they don't 1.00

05:21:39.660 give a shit they they don't care like if you're just good enough you're good enough they don't give a 0.99

05:21:44.540 shit i've never seen any of them say nope you got to be you got it you got to really hold on i want 0.99

05:21:51.820 her i want to give her an opportunity to respond you seem to disagree with andrew do you want to 0.98

05:21:59.260 i think generally speaking people seek uh a partner who does have goals and goals are what

05:22:05.980 give your life meaning can i comment on this let me come but it doesn't have to be job related at all

05:22:12.780 so i think something that i have goals i want to i want to be a homesteader i want to i want to

05:22:16.860 raise a family like i want to become a better cook you brought up cooking i think we are why does

05:22:21.180 a man care about those goals though because that you want to be a homesteader because he would like

05:22:26.700 to do so as well okay so then so it's his goal it's his goals but well you have but i i think the

05:22:34.700 context of the context of the conversation is occupational career educational achievement

05:22:43.180 that's the context not and andrew maybe has differing views on this i don't object to a woman who

05:22:51.020 is desirous or has goals to having a family but i don't think that's what it's what i'm just saying

05:22:55.180 about what what is cared about what the preference is but let's keep it within the context of career

05:23:02.540 success financial uh educational achievement and men in those realms men don't really care about

05:23:11.580 woman's ambition in that regard no i think i i i agree on that oh it was just unclear when you said

05:23:18.220 you know men don't care if women have ambitions i i just okay here let's not linger long because i

05:23:23.260 want to try to wrap but quickly but for the men so say for example right you meet this girl and um she 0.97

05:23:29.740 has she's in school for something long term but like you guys both mutually decide like y'all want to

05:23:34.620 start settle down and start a family do you think that she should forfeit her career for a potential 1.00

05:23:40.060 husband and family yeah yeah yeah what about you what about me like what do you should do should the

05:23:53.660 woman forfeit her career for a potential family and husband should she well it depends what the 1.00

05:24:02.780 arrangement is going to be do you want to have one kid two kids three kids four if if her standard is 1.00

05:24:09.180 going to be well while i'm pregnant i don't want to be in the workforce and then during those early

05:24:13.980 years i don't want to uh be in the workforce and then i also want to have three four five kids

05:24:19.260 you are going to forfeit your career so remember that and well and if i can give my own perspective

05:24:26.140 if i can give my own perspective let's say i want to have seven sons

05:24:32.780 uh and i'm a high earner and you want to go pursue your career where at the top end of your career

05:24:39.020 you're going to be making seventy five thousand dollars a year and i'm making say i'm making seven seven

05:24:47.020 figures a year no i think you should take care of the kids

05:24:55.420 so why do that career if i can provide i agree so in the example that we were saying like remember

05:25:02.620 the 25 year old having kids and then the 40 year old man right so say the 25 year old is just starting

05:25:07.660 her career and all of a sudden the 40 year old wants kids should she just like stop because she's 1.00

05:25:12.060 obviously very early in her career should she just should she just stop what she's doing yes 0.97

05:25:16.780 but you can have a career and have children at the same time you can also not have a career and take

05:25:21.580 care of your children at the same time you can do both but none of these are mutually exclusive so her

05:25:26.700 should her should hot what should what's optimal what's optimal is you listen to your 40 year old

05:25:32.860 husband if he tells you stay the home and watch the kids then you stay the home and you watch the 0.97

05:25:38.460 kids it's simple if i could play devil's advocate for one um you're such a misogynist andrew you are 0.87

05:25:47.260 just a misogynist and the whatever podcast being a feminist platform does not appreciate your your 1.00

05:25:54.780 attitude she asked she just like the ask is what things should be done if the husband wants this thing 0.99

05:26:01.580 yes from my world view yeah you need to do what ultimately your husband tells you to do i am

05:26:08.140 sorry i i do want to try to wrap up relatively soon so i'm just going to try to get through some of

05:26:13.500 our last talking points here doggy soprano says brian by your logic about makeup clothing is a lie too

05:26:21.900 if you stand by your argument stop lying to us uh i don't think that that is

05:26:28.540 you're talking about clothes right no she's shapewear is like it'll give a woman a certain 1.00

05:26:46.540 figure oh even though like it'll oh wait nick could you pull up the the yoga one please the

05:26:51.260 you know what i'm talking about the yoga pants uh yeah it should be in the makeup folder yeah

05:26:55.980 okay so yeah shapewear is a lie shape but if you're just wearing like a t-shirt if you're wearing

05:27:02.700 it uh you're gonna have to so i mean this to me uh is a bit deceptive i'm not look she's not obese

05:27:15.100 she's got a little little belly whatever but like if that's the transformation 1.00

05:27:26.780 that's deceptive

05:27:29.820 no no you don't think that's deceptive

05:27:36.060 it depends on your intentions wait wait there's oh my god there's another video where it's like a woman 1.00

05:27:40.380 who like they just stuff all of it in they fucking hide that 1.00

05:27:47.100 shit do you know what i'm talking about it's so deceptive 1.00

05:27:55.180 you are hiding a hundred pounds of fat she's laughing because she knows it's true 1.00

05:27:59.820 i definitely know it's true i've tried some on in like the department stores i don't know how you 1.00

05:28:19.340 fucking get that shit in how does that work i don't know it blows my mind okay doogie soprano 0.99

05:28:26.060 no thank you man appreciate all right we got nickelodeon always going on about dating 18 year 1.00

05:28:30.060 old girls is basically p word uh how many girls here are okay with sad baby des and other three 1.00

05:28:38.620 foes making money off of boys oh my god okay why this is okay um

05:28:45.100 disavow nickel thank you nickelodeon appreciate it um

05:28:48.300 um thank you appreciate that that was cool okay all right uh let's see i got some more notes here

05:28:56.460 i'm going to try to blast through them we got to get through everybody we got we got through isabella 0.72

05:29:02.140 not in that way okay um we got

05:29:07.660 mesa that's your name right yes you said you're patrick bateman stan account on your instagram

05:29:12.620 yeah are you you fan of american psycho yeah it's my favorite movie have you seen uh what's

05:29:18.140 called what the rules of attraction what's wrong with american psycho no i haven't seen that isn't

05:29:22.140 that like don't incels always push that i don't know i don't like the self-described ones it's actually

05:29:29.100 a red flag if a girl that's her favorite movie like how why is that your favorite movie you just

05:29:35.420 like the cinematography i love the soundtrack specifically oh wait hold on to be clear yes as

05:29:41.500 somebody who's studied film your favorite film is your favorite film because of the music in it yes

05:29:52.380 that is music just kind of ties the whole movie together brian her her favorite film is her

05:29:57.580 favorite film okay because of the music i love the character patrick bateman specifically not because

05:30:03.900 i agree are you are you attracted to him yeah he's a good-looking guy no no are you attracted to the

05:30:09.020 character of patrick bateman and his cold murderous ways no but the actor is a good-looking guy 0.96

05:30:17.260 such an overrated movie do you fuck do you like huey lewis in the news their early work was a little 0.88

05:30:25.660 too new wave for my taste but when sports came out in 83 they really came into their own both 0.99

05:30:31.740 commercially and artistically i'd say their undisputed masterpiece is hip to be square

05:30:37.500 a song so catchy you probably don't listen to the lyrics but you should okay i think you should

05:30:43.500 uh ridiculous wasn't that right before he like went in and beat up a hooker no that was before he

05:30:49.420 murdered somebody with he murdered um paul allen oh paul allen okay uh you said that you're moderate 0.98

05:30:55.580 leaning towards conservative feminist in some aspects but mostly traditional i think we talked about that

05:31:00.060 um you've experienced we talked about arranged marriages uh did you ever have any prospects on

05:31:07.260 the arranged marriage front um yes um so it was kind of it was more of just like a set up by our parents

05:31:16.060 without our knowledge um just to get us to meet each other and see what the vibes were but um that

05:31:22.060 didn't work out because i was i just wasn't aware that that was the intention of that um evening so

05:31:30.140 things just didn't work out but that's okay okay we have back to the american psycho thing real quick

05:31:38.220 yes so i did i mean i do see those accounts like all over twitter and all over everything

05:31:43.580 yeah but i thought that this was used ironically isn't that the whole point to use it are you just

05:31:48.860 you're not using it unironically i don't know maybe i i don't know it's i mean i don't really

05:31:54.780 post about american psycho on my account it's just something that's just kind of there

05:31:59.980 it's just on my bio have you read the book by brett easton ellis i have not i should get i should get

05:32:05.500 to that hold on this is your favorite movie and it never occurred to you to read the book in which

05:32:10.380 it's based on no you know what you should watch uh this is also a book from brett easton ellis it's

05:32:17.180 called the rules of attraction okay and actually this is total tangent here i've been trying to

05:32:22.620 get the director of that film on the show uh well not on the dating talk but the one-on-one interview

05:32:27.180 because interestingly enough the rules of attraction is not my favorite movie but it's one of my

05:32:33.420 favorite movies it's a dark comedy and it's a uh really interesting film because

05:32:40.060 i think it's actually the closest film about like the college experience because a lot of people like

05:32:46.300 i feel like some people have this disneyfied view of how college is going to be but it's actually

05:32:50.860 can be quite dark and deal with some very adult topics once you once you get to college and um

05:32:57.580 it's uh the the antagonist protagonist patrick uh his brother sean bateman is one of the main

05:33:04.620 characters in the film the rules of attraction he's the brother of patrick bateman so the the universes

05:33:10.940 are kind of intertwined in the books and in the film and uh it's a very dark film but i do encourage

05:33:17.660 you it came out in like 2001 i think and uh it's a good film anyways kind of tangent there but since

05:33:23.980 you're a fan of american psycho i thought i'd recommend to you i'll check it out the rules of

05:33:28.380 attraction uh directed by roger avery starring what's what's the guy's name from dawson's creek he plays

05:33:37.340 sean bateman anybody know dawson's creek am i too much of a boomer for this is dawson's creek too much

05:33:44.540 of a boomer thing yeah there's some big names in there there's kip pardue there's ian summer what's

05:33:52.300 his name summer summer hot the guy from vampire diaries never mind i didn't say that um you guys

05:33:58.700 watch dawson's creek no no he's the guy oh what's the dawson's creek guy wait can you pull up chat

05:34:04.300 dawson's creek guy what's his name the the guy who played dawson james vanderbeek thank you i don't

05:34:10.540 how do i um james vanderbeek and then who's the girl who's married to justin timberlake what's her

05:34:17.420 name in your life ava longoria is that her who's the girl who's dated or no married to justin timberlake

05:34:23.980 who's that i wouldn't know what's her name jessica biel jessica biel's in it anyways derailed okay 0.82

05:34:35.180 cool um check out the film it's good okay okay uh let's see we're going to angelica rose

05:34:41.500 uh scranton yep uh you met your current husband oh we should have gotten to okay you met your current

05:34:47.420 husband while on house arrest he was on house arrest yeah well he was on he was working a job

05:34:54.140 and he was uh on his lunch break and i was in line behind him we actually knew each other like kind of

05:34:59.660 on facebook because we live in a small town so if you have like i don't know back in the day if you

05:35:04.140 had like 200 mutuals you would just friend people but um yeah so he's a musician and i'm a bit of a

05:35:12.860 creative dabbler so we initially started hanging out to jam and we started having these great

05:35:19.020 conversations and it got romantic and he was just this great guy and i remember you know expressing

05:35:25.660 my feelings to him and he was like i'm polyamorous um which is really funny because we actually um

05:35:37.180 well we're we're married we're married now and we were together seven years we probably moved in

05:35:41.740 together two months after that and have been together ever since exclusively um okay but you

05:35:48.700 so you said he was on house arrest do you know what what was he on house arrest for

05:35:54.540 well he was just starting to build his life back together he was in recovery so caught with some

05:36:00.460 illicit possession or distribution i'm not quite sure you're not aren't you married marijuana

05:36:09.900 something possession i'm not sure if it was possession distribution this is in california i'm

05:36:15.820 not quite sure how it works no this was in pennsylvania oh okay uh all right you also said that

05:36:24.860 you think your stories of how i grew up are most interesting we can't get into super detail but

05:36:30.780 you want to give us quick plot synopsis on on that

05:36:34.060 in your pre-show notes you said i think my stories of how i grew up are most interesting in

05:36:40.620 relation to uh so i grew up in a very traditional catholic uh homeschooled family uh lots of siblings

05:36:48.460 um conservative values uh so i mean i i didn't know if that that would maybe feed into anything we

05:36:57.180 discussed today but yeah i just so it's a little bit of different background than did the progressive

05:37:02.220 machine take your mind uh i think that i was i leaned toward liberal as i was a pretty open-minded

05:37:09.340 person but you know as you get older you start to understand the values more you know what i mean

05:37:16.540 okay you also said that you consider yourself a small wealth of relationship advice you've studied

05:37:22.140 psychology most of your life uh so considering that you're a small wealth of relationship advice what

05:37:29.420 are your top three dating tips i think the first one is to just get in touch with who you actually

05:37:36.540 are and present that to people um i wouldn't i wouldn't recommend what does that mean in practice

05:37:45.100 though i think it means reflecting on yourself and actually spending time you know not just going

05:37:54.700 through the machine day to day i think it means like reflecting on yourself you know when you when

05:37:59.980 relationships don't work out you know looking to yourself to see maybe how you contributed to that

05:38:05.740 um wait so repeat the first part again so you should what

05:38:12.460 reflect on your own self become aware of your own thoughts your own behaviors okay what what your

05:38:18.300 interests are okay sure be sure i'd yeah i'd agree with that okay top three okay uh that way you can

05:38:25.900 find somebody who aligns with that okay any other uh dating tips

05:38:36.220 you said you're a wealth small wealth of relationship advice

05:38:39.900 why are you looking at me that way i'm just i'm going off of what you wrote

05:38:47.820 what are you mad is this a death stare i'm confused no it's not a death stare

05:38:52.540 i mean you're just kind of putting me on the spot and well yeah we go one by one i'm going through

05:38:56.460 everybody's i mean like the way you're bringing it up it's like i don't know it's abrupt you said you

05:39:04.060 consider yourself a small wealth of relationship relationship advice i'm just asking what are your

05:39:08.460 top three dating tips in my life um i've already mentioned number one what was number one get to

05:39:16.140 know yourself oh okay yeah number two would be you know get involved in activities that you actually

05:39:21.340 enjoy and that's the best way i think you can meet somebody okay um and yeah just actually present

05:39:29.340 who you are and be yourself you know what i mean so be yourself don't waste time trying to project

05:39:33.900 an image um that's something in the past that i think that i i fell into you know what i mean

05:39:38.940 trying to like project this image of of uh on like on instagram i think i got caught into the trap that

05:39:46.540 you can with instagram of this distortion of reality and you know getting caught to presenting an image

05:39:55.980 and like a brand i guess you could say people talk about that um how does one be themselves what

05:40:02.540 does it what does it mean to be yourself like be authentic be genuine yeah instead of projecting

05:40:10.140 an image you know projecting what you think will appeal to other people you should actually be in

05:40:17.180 touch with your own feelings and just you know be real people so practically speaking though if i were to

05:40:22.860 just go up to a guy or a woman who's struggling with dating and i tell them to be yourself i wouldn't

05:40:31.980 just say be yourself yeah that's that's not what i said so no that well that is what you said

05:40:41.660 you said some people should be themselves i said people should be in touch i'm not going to repeat

05:40:46.540 myself well yeah you i mean there was extra no you that's not anyone else have any thoughts on

05:40:51.340 this or i mean what do you mean having thoughts on i'm just curious to hear other people's thoughts

05:40:55.500 so you mature as you grow older you're going to find different things in your personality your values

05:41:01.420 how you align with them as you grow what are your thoughts what do you mean what are my thoughts you're

05:41:08.220 smirking so much like this is all a joke she's trying to bring something genuine to you and your table 0.99

05:41:14.540 and it does take a while are you saying you've never made mistakes you've not learned from

05:41:19.580 that have kind of shaped your experience and maybe how you interact with the world and your values that

05:41:25.100 you just don't know what be yourself means that's the that's the hang-up so it's a generalized phrase

05:41:31.740 for who you are well i mean saying the words are straightforward but giving us the meaning not

05:41:38.300 so straightforward well i think an example like you um mentioned like not putting out like this

05:41:43.340 appearance of what you think will appeal to others one example of how you could do that

05:41:47.660 practically is like how you dress a lot of people um are afraid to dress in the style that

05:41:52.620 they actually want to because they're afraid of being judged by others um and i've seen especially

05:41:57.340 lately a lot of people embrace dressing in the style that they actually want to dress and clothing

05:42:02.380 does say a lot about who you are um and what kind of person you are so i think that if you can

05:42:08.140 kind of let go of the fear of oh people are going to make fun of what i'm wearing or whatever like

05:42:12.940 so i have a question i've i've been roasted for this i've people have questioned my fashion

05:42:17.820 choice so if i i feel like dressing comfortably so on the first date i just want to wear some black

05:42:24.860 sweat my my patatins oh my god geez sorry guys i just want to wear my puma sweatpants my black puma sweatpants

05:42:33.660 and a t-shirt first date that's fine that's fine but but obviously that's not what i'm saying i mean

05:42:43.820 you should yeah i don't think that's what you're saying okay i think i think the be yourself thing

05:42:48.220 and being confident is like being able to show up in those puma sweats and the t-shirt um at the date

05:42:55.340 and that's fine you're free to do that and then being able to dress comfortably being able to be

05:43:01.660 okay with the outcome maybe that maybe the person you're going to date with isn't going to

05:43:05.420 really like that's really important to me important to you then you 100 wait so when it comes to the

05:43:09.900 being yourself thing though like do you think so you think people should be genuine so brian comes 0.84

05:43:14.620 over to your house i know it's crazy people should be like knocks on the door and he's like miss

05:43:19.100 relationship expert i'm about to go on the biggest date i really i'd like really want this to go well 0.99

05:43:24.060 and you're gonna be like yeah just put on your fucking sweats and your puma t-shirts 0.97

05:43:26.700 it works andrew it works i've rocked some days that that's what you got out of it but 0.99

05:43:32.860 well okay hold on i'll bring it back so you say people should be themselves should be genuine

05:43:38.620 you're i think you're right and if i can call back to a moment earlier in this podcast

05:43:46.140 i agree women should stop wearing makeup get no more plastic surgery start being genuine stop wearing 1.00

05:43:52.620 makeup stop with the face filters stop with the photoshop no bbls no fake titties no late lip filler

05:44:03.820 fair totally yeah just be yourself ladies except 100 let's move forward with this move makeup 1.00

05:44:12.860 so makeup oh keep the makeup i think women should be their genuine selves and just be yourself stop 1.00

05:44:17.980 wearing makeup guys why would you compare like your physical appearance to your as part of your

05:44:25.020 genuine self whatever the hell that means your physical appearance okay

05:44:30.380 do you think i would argue for both men and women but do you think men care about a woman's

05:44:34.380 physical appearance yes of course yes okay so if a major attraction trigger for men is a woman's

05:44:43.260 physical appearance isn't it don't you think if you're playing with someone in that way by deceiving

05:44:53.500 on the looks front that you're almost baiting them in some way deceptively romantically

05:45:00.860 you were talking about makeup again yeah she she brought it back it wasn't me it was definitely her

05:45:04.940 it's definitely isabella no but you said well what does wearing makeup have to do with being genuine

05:45:11.260 and being yourself well i would argue since look i'll just take the position and i think women 1.00

05:45:18.140 actually care far more about looks than men do that let's just say men are these like superficial

05:45:24.700 shallow beings that just they really care way too much about physical appearance well women are 1.00

05:45:33.900 basically pulling on men on on that like attraction trigger in men in order to bait them into relationships 0.96

05:45:42.380 in order to bait them into dating by changing your physical appearance through a facade through a veneer

05:45:52.140 yeah but if a man if as a man you found it to be so deceitful that this woman you met wore makeup

05:45:59.820 and you finally see her without makeup why wouldn't you just break up with her after seeing her without

05:46:05.740 makeup if it's that big of a deal for you and you find it that deceitful well i okay entering into a

05:46:13.340 relationship i prefer women who wear minimal or no makeup so i would not if a woman was like constantly 1.00

05:46:19.340 caking on a face of makeup that's not the type of woman i'm pursuing well that's your preference 1.00

05:46:24.700 yeah okay but as if we're having a conversation about the degree to which makeup can be deceptive

05:46:32.860 and not be an accurate representation of what you actually look like

05:46:36.940 here's the argument if makeup didn't actually change what you look like why would you wear it

05:46:43.100 so your your argument is essentially well makeup has absolutely zero impact on my attractiveness and how

05:46:49.980 i look yet i spend money and waste time putting it on to not make any impact on my physical appearance

05:46:57.100 i didn't say that now you're putting words in my mouth

05:47:03.740 my i was just asking are you are you coming back or yeah oh okay okay okay i thought that might have

05:47:09.260 been a rage quit i don't know um i wish okay all right

05:47:14.780 yeah i was just asking you uh tough crowd tonight go ahead ask me ask me what were you asking well

05:47:24.140 what you said was not what i said what i was saying is if you know make makeup is such a deceitful thing

05:47:30.700 to you yeah then wouldn't you just break up with them right after seeing them without makeup like

05:47:36.620 if i've already told you though i prefer to date women who wear minimal or no makeup said like sometimes

05:47:41.180 you can't tell if they're wearing makeup or not yeah sometimes you can't but yeah i mean i'd like to

05:47:49.260 think i mean that was more of a general statement i think i have a fairly attuned sense of if a woman 0.99

05:47:57.180 is wearing makeup or not okay just at least to me like let's say a man is wearing lifts in his shoes he's

05:48:08.540 like being deceitful in a physical way he's changing one of his physical attributes yeah and

05:48:15.100 then i see him and he's three inches shorter it's not gonna make as big of an impact to me as if he

05:48:22.780 was deceiving me in a non-physical way like if he lied to me about his job or his like upbringing or his

05:48:31.020 values or things like that those are things that i find more important than how they look physically

05:48:36.620 so if they're like lying to me about things that they value in life and just so we can like be

05:48:41.740 together and then turns out those aren't true then it's like i feel like that's so it's wrong to

05:48:48.220 deceive i understand but it's just making just making a value judgment there saying look both of these are

05:48:55.020 bad but this one just me for my own preference that i have less of a problem with it than this other

05:49:01.500 preference right so you're just saying both are bad but this one bothers me less than this one

05:49:08.540 i don't think wearing lifts in your shoes is bad what if it was the first time that you met him

05:49:15.020 and then he took off then he took off he wouldn't care you wouldn't care here what if it shrunk him

05:49:20.140 down to like shorter than you you wouldn't before it these other girls here let me give a different 0.99

05:49:25.500 example what about the guy who wore to pay i would argue most women especially you know maybe older 1.00

05:49:35.180 women are a little more forgiving on this front most women prefer men with a full head of hair who are 0.99

05:49:40.540 not balding yes i think a lot of women would let's say that to pay is really convincing in his photos

05:49:46.860 and even in person but you find out that it's not real would you feel like do you maybe i should

05:49:56.460 have asked this before i went would you feel deceived do you have a preference for do you have

05:50:00.220 a hair preference at all when it comes to men do you bald men men who are balding larry david versus

05:50:04.940 like giga chad full head of hair anything no not really i mean usually if they're balding they're

05:50:11.340 you can see do you concede that most women prefer men with a full head of hair they find it more 0.92

05:50:17.020 attractive there's a lot of sexy bald men okay but the difference is if the woman is wearing makeup 0.93

05:50:24.540 like you can see the makeup you'll probably you can see the toupee well yeah but you said it's so

05:50:29.100 convincing that it looks real and you can't tell okay that's what you just said what if you could tell

05:50:33.660 that he's wearing a toupee then i'm probably asked to see what he looks like without it why just out

05:50:39.340 of curiosity oh out of curiosity like you'd probably like if a girl's wearing makeup you'd

05:50:43.180 probably wonder like oh i wonder what she looks like without the makeup do you think you'd end 1.00

05:50:46.220 up seeing that's the point do you think a lot of women might think well is this man insecure why is

05:50:53.020 he wearing a toupee i mean i would understand like if i would probably do the same if i was going bald

05:51:00.860 like i don't see what the issue is and it's like if they're going to be wearing the toupee all the time

05:51:06.300 anyways okay so how about this difference in public in public he wears the toupee but when

05:51:13.740 you're getting intimate he doesn't wear the toupee 0.99

05:51:19.020 and you got a larry david looking motherfucker 0.99

05:51:24.540 but bald men can be sexy i know a lot of sexy bald men oh yeah you like them 90 0.99

05:51:29.900 she likes them 90 year olds they just rock it like it's like they know that's their predicament 1.00

05:51:41.260 right some men can rock the bald look but most women most women prefer men with a full head of hair

05:51:49.580 i've never really like given it that much thought i've never like gone out and saw and be like i need

05:51:53.180 a man with a full head of hair okay you guys can talk about anecdotes and like personal exceptions if

05:51:58.220 he's super attractive but like for the average no preferences this is for the average nothing

05:52:04.700 bothers you whatever type of guy short big bald here's the reality most women are attracted to

05:52:11.900 tall men most women are attracted to men with a full head of hair it is what it is 0.93

05:52:18.300 how about this question if henry cavill became bald from a disease would he be cuter then

05:52:24.700 he is now look and they've done studies on this they've they've asked women to rate the attractiveness

05:52:31.100 of various men some of the men are uh partially balding some of them are fully bald some of them

05:52:37.180 shave and then some of them have like luscious flow they got the flow they got full head of hair

05:52:45.980 the women were find the men with full heads of hair more attractive that's probably true i'm just saying 0.99

05:52:52.140 baldness is not equal ugliness of course not preach but like a lot of women would are you contesting 1.00

05:52:58.460 that a lot of women might feel deceived about a guy who wore a toupee in his dating app photos yeah

05:53:05.340 for sure and then maybe on the date he shows up in the hat and then midway through the date he takes

05:53:10.460 the hat off oh you're bald didn't know i would have liked to have known maybe i've had a few experiences

05:53:16.860 see a guy take a pat like why i didn't know you were bald not as bad as a shot okay all right um

05:53:25.260 okay here where are we um i've been lost on the toupee talk now oh speaking of which stifler ask

05:53:35.020 everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten where it's getting into this way too late but

05:53:39.980 okay going around the table starting with you go ahead i don't agree with rating yourself because

05:53:45.100 i think isabella what are you doing here okay go ahead i think it's extremely subjective i think you

05:53:52.460 shouldn't devalue yourself to a number okay and it could change at any time like really based on how

05:53:59.580 you're feeling like you could wake up one day maybe you're super sick or you're feeling down and you could

05:54:05.100 see yourself in a more negative light than if you're super like uppity and confident and positive

05:54:10.540 are you super uppity and confident and positive today i'm pretty neutral today but like i'm not

05:54:17.180 gonna give myself i'm not gonna give myself a number

05:54:23.420 if you were to engage you know just as a thought experiment with stifler's question here

05:54:27.820 if you had to you know you know anything no

05:54:38.140 what okay what if i hold on i'll come back to you what about you like a 6.5

05:54:44.940 7.58 on a good day five two oh come on

05:54:50.380 i that's not in my business seven well no no no no hold on what do you mean it's none of your

05:55:00.060 business how can i objectively rate myself that's not a subject you would subjectively rate yourself

05:55:06.300 it's not an objective to woman so or myself but it's you're rating your own looks on a scale of one

05:55:13.020 to ten you you could six

05:55:23.820 why don't you tell us why you object to the question

05:55:28.620 because it's not my business i said it's none of your like i'm not gonna rate like how am i gonna be

05:55:34.620 objectively rating myself yeah it's not my business it's somebody else's business they find me attractive

05:55:39.500 or not oh i see what you're saying you're saying that only another person could rate you well yeah

05:55:45.740 because it's a subjective metric but then isn't it a subjective metric from them rating you

05:55:51.980 so then it's just as arbitrary as what you'd rate yourself so what do you rate yourself

05:55:57.580 well i told i said six oh okay oh i thought that was like a passive aggressive okay fine i'll give

05:56:03.420 myself a six okay did you answer go ahead uh me yeah yeah i said seven

05:56:11.340 andrew ah three four okay give myself a five five

05:56:17.740 isabella you want to give it another crack here or do you want to be difficult

05:56:23.260 i mean i don't have a number and i honestly think everyone here is being pretty modest because they

05:56:27.580 probably don't want to come off as conceited by giving themselves a high number but

05:56:30.780 way has anybody here def you know deflated their answer i did any of you i'm a 10 oh okay 0.96

05:56:41.260 i'll admit it um i did slightly because i personally i think i have a pretty face and my butt's pretty

05:56:51.420 good but um i have to consider where i am on the dating market given the podcast so i'm being realistic

05:56:59.180 i believe do you want to continue isabella well first of all i don't like all your

05:57:06.860 self-deprecation that you have been saying throughout this podcast i think you're beautiful

05:57:11.500 you shouldn't say these negative things about yourself or think these things about yourself

05:57:15.180 or think of yourself in a way how like of how you're marketable to men and dating because i think

05:57:20.300 that doesn't matter at the end of the day all that matters is how you feel about yourself

05:57:23.740 and your own confidence well i i am a confident actually it kind of does matter yeah if you're

05:57:29.500 wanting to have a partner then yeah it does she has a part right oh yes i do and i think part of

05:57:35.340 that was i was honest with myself like no no just be delusional you need to be you need to be delusional

05:57:42.780 she loves delusion and also just love yourself and be delusional i do love myself i think i'm

05:57:48.220 say it one more time for the camera i love delusion she loves delusion okay here let me let me try to

05:57:56.700 okay isabel one of the many ways we evaluate potential partners is um it's by their physical

05:58:03.420 attractiveness right so how do you think that the broader dating marketplace would rate your physical

05:58:11.180 attractiveness on a scale of one to ten that's very subjective like how am i supposed to know like

05:58:16.540 someone could think i'm a one and someone could think i'm like an 11. well this is this is why we

05:58:22.620 have this is why we have numbers and statistics so if if a thousand or ten thousand or a hundred

05:58:30.780 thousand people were to rate you we could arrive at a mean we could arrive at a median we could arrive

05:58:35.980 at an average what do you think if ten thousand people rated you what the average i literally i couldn't

05:58:41.580 tell you like i have no idea i don't know if you were to guess do you think i don't even have an

05:58:47.020 educated you want to just say you're 10 so she's a 10 objectively 10 being like the highest you look

05:58:55.340 like 100 perfect no flaws like whatever whatever that's still subjective i would still say no but i

05:59:02.700 like someone else could think that or someone else could think that it'd be crazy to think that

05:59:10.380 like how am i supposed to know you're not supposed to know like i don't ask i don't go around asking

05:59:14.060 people like oh what can you rate me from a scale from one to ten like why would i do that yeah you

05:59:17.420 don't need to do that that's not really the point of the question is okay um you would agree with me

05:59:25.020 for instance that there's ugly dogs right like really ugly dogs and then there's really cute fluffy

05:59:32.540 dogs right i've never seen an ugly dog never i i love all dogs even the hairless

05:59:40.860 is there any animal you think is ugly any um

05:59:48.700 hairless cats no they're so cute those are adorable i don't know i not really nothing

05:59:54.700 i don't think so i mean is a turkey vulture a good-looking animal

06:00:02.060 would you say it's cute yeah yeah a turkey vulture

06:00:08.860 like it's cute in its own way

06:00:12.060 i don't i mean it's a subjective metric you know who could know who could ever know yeah it's all

06:00:18.460 it's a subjective metric the whole point of the subjective metric though is just to kind of get a gain

06:00:23.420 on if what you think about you reflects morality were you being legit when you said three or four

06:00:29.420 for yourself yeah that was your serious yeah that's my serious answer for me you're saying it's a test

06:00:35.660 on someone's delusion like whether they're in touch with reality just saying if they're in touch with

06:00:39.980 objective reality or not but it is subjective right of course subjective so how can you be in touch with

06:00:45.500 subjective reality everybody's reality everybody has their own subjective reality that sarcasm is so

06:00:50.380 great right except you probably utilize what's called a correspondence theory of truth which is

06:00:57.180 that things that you consider true are things which correspond with objective reality would that be what

06:01:05.180 you consider truth to be what the hell are you talking about i know i don't get it right it's like

06:01:09.980 weird it's like so you are you all reality is subjective no i never said that okay great so

06:01:17.100 is there some uh is any beauty standard objective or is it all subjective it's all subjective all of

06:01:23.420 it's subjective is that an objective statement too late for this it just depends on if it's subjective or

06:01:32.380 subjective in different cultures like different it's physical features are more attractive than

06:01:38.300 others okay is it is it objective like obesity can we give an objective marker to what makes a person

06:01:46.140 obese yes really or is it subjective i mean there's a scale yeah and is the scale just subjective well

06:01:54.860 it's not like there's just one set number but this is my point right it's like it's like we can play with

06:02:00.620 words if you want but the thing is is uh i think that even from a subjective standpoint there's going

06:02:07.180 to be some things which correspond with reality like i would say for instance a person who had fourth

06:02:13.260 degree burns all over their face probably wouldn't be that high on the attractiveness scale probably

06:02:19.660 that would probably correspond with reality right so is it a subjective is there one unicorn out there

06:02:25.660 it's like oh he's gorgeous maybe but it generally doesn't correspond to reality so that's what brian's

06:02:31.500 saying that's why he asked the question it makes sense okay it's beautiful it's a conversation

06:02:40.860 all right okay all right good times well so what is the answer there's no tens at the table so well

06:02:46.940 what's the answer from the subjective standpoint i don't have an answer you don't even have a subjective one

06:02:52.060 talk no no that's good there's no ten at least there's no tens at the table

06:03:00.540 does that ever happen why can't everyone be a 10

06:03:05.820 well they can it's all subjective why can't yeah if you believe you're you can be a 10 if you believe

06:03:09.980 you know it only goes up to 10 and i'm a 20. you if you yeah because nothing means anything like good

06:03:16.700 for you like you can think that everybody's a 10 then nobody's a 10 but yeah technically yeah

06:03:22.700 so then why does the number even matter that's what i was trying to say in the first place like it

06:03:25.980 why would you like about like put yourself in a number category how would you feel if you didn't eat

06:03:32.940 breakfast this morning

06:03:37.500 how would you how you would feel hungry okay i wake up starving every morning

06:03:43.340 what's that i wake up like starving every morning like i'm super i was just curious you know there's

06:03:50.220 resources for that wow that joke totally fell flat

06:03:54.860 oh god okay tough tough ground tonight it's rough yeah tough crowd all right all right okay a couple

06:04:05.340 more a couple more notes here uh okay uh

06:04:11.260 nope she's not here we hit going back to angelica rose from scranton pennsylvania i

06:04:19.820 definitely do have some hot takes that pop up in these types of discussions

06:04:25.420 hot takes

06:04:29.580 i feel like there needs to be a discussion happening but oh okay all right moving on

06:04:34.780 then um that's a hot take let's see all right nothing she wasn't here we've hit oh last but not least

06:04:45.340 actually wait we still have to do hayley's tweets then we have des here sorry um go ahead pull it up nick

06:04:57.740 what did i say all men are wait wait hold on i want you to say this can you say this in your voice

06:05:04.380 in my voice yeah you read it for us wait all men are liars and i stand on that 0.93

06:05:08.540 yeah that's that's a really as a man that's very offensive well see i don't you really don't take my

06:05:16.140 twitter seriously like oh i took it very this is my safe space where i go to vet about people like 0.97

06:05:21.020 nobody knows about you you shit post on twitter yeah i do i do and now people are gonna go scrolling 0.96

06:05:28.220 like now i actually like be like really specific so i may get in trouble but yeah i was really mad that 1.00

06:05:33.260 they okay i feel like all of twitter is just a giant shit post it's a huge shit post all men are liars though 0.99

06:05:39.180 do you guys um no maybe a little sexist just a little no i was kind of coming from the point that like 1.00

06:05:47.660 i i just feel like all men just pretend 0.92

06:05:52.860 all of them all that's how you felt or how you feel i still kind of feel that way do you feel that way

06:05:58.460 isabella no no i think all liars are liars regardless of your gender that was 0.98

06:06:05.020 an astute observation thank you all liars are liars whether you're a man liar and all dogs are 0.97

06:06:12.860 dogs and all cats are cats that was august 20 that was beautiful i'm just trying to figure out what i 0.98

06:06:17.340 was going to put that on the motivational poster can we get can we get some merch all liars the second 0.98

06:06:23.260 law of logic yeah but like all things are that which they are it doesn't really matter

06:06:28.300 what your gender is you could be like wait where did the how did gender get introduced

06:06:34.300 but i don't know what made me angry to say that i'm like trying to think

06:06:38.380 speaking of genders what is a woman starting with isabella are we talking about the sex or

06:06:44.620 the gender because a woman if you're talking about the sex is someone with two x chromosome 0.98

06:06:51.660 really yeah but what is a woman what about women have xy chromosome 1.00

06:06:56.380 well their sex as they were born would be yeah there's women who have sex of their gender can 1.00

06:07:04.220 change yeah i'm talking about females have an xy chromosome or males who have an xx chromosome

06:07:11.020 or xxy like it's like a like a birth defect or like yeah you can have you can have those conditions

06:07:16.860 yeah yeah those conditions can i mean they're pretty rare by the way guys it's raining we don't know if

06:07:22.860 the power is going to go out we don't know yeah i'm just i'm just giving you grief on the sex gender

06:07:29.580 thing that's all what is a woman going around the table what is a woman yes a woman is a woman we have 1.00

06:07:39.820 a uterus and we can make babies and yeah okay what about you biologically or like what is a real woman 1.00

06:07:48.700 no what is a woman 0.96

06:07:52.220 yeah female xy chromosome oh okay someone who can that would be xx by the way she yeah misspoke misspoke 1.00

06:07:59.740 uh a biological female 1.00

06:08:07.260 adult human female i was gonna say exactly the same thing adult human female

06:08:15.500 okay good we got more tweets let's get through the tweets then we got to get to uh des go ahead

06:08:22.620 oh my god oh wait this is uh okay can you read it and i'm supposed to settle for a man that

06:08:29.180 can't even buy me flowers scroll down okay we all now wow is that a mercedes maybach yeah but see

06:08:37.260 that aged poorly because that's like diddy's like ex like girl and it could be all what happened to

06:08:41.820 that oh tracy on tilt donated two hundred dollars ppa who say that all men are liars have gone through

06:08:48.940 many men and hence make that conclusion instead of reflecting inside themselves and seeing what they

06:08:54.220 are doing wrong too scared to face the truth do you want to respond to that baby i

06:08:58.860 i tweeted that like in my college class like in the morning like i don't know what i was going

06:09:02.780 through but like i it wasn't because of that reason she had drank too many white claws someone 0.86

06:09:08.300 like just pissed me off that's all too many odouls yeah but you said you stood by it now like 1.00

06:09:14.780 to a certain extent but not to that level of anger i was at to go tweet that what's the certain extent

06:09:20.300 the certain extent is i just feel like all men pretend yeah but what does that mean they pretend

06:09:25.340 what they they just like pretend i feel like they have like a longevity right it's like some could

06:09:30.620 last i don't know what the hell you're talking about some could last for three months some can

06:09:35.020 last for six months but that real person always comes out and it's usually pretty ugly that's a big

06:09:41.420 generalization you mean you're saying they're hiding their true selves yes like you're meeting

06:09:45.980 their diplomatic representative yes that's all women you think so yeah 1.00

06:09:49.900 yeah yep i've never met i've never met a woman yet ever in my life where i andrew angelica over

06:09:58.620 here will not stand for your sexist statements andrew i know i'm sorry yeah angelica instead of

06:10:05.100 instead of uh what's the term for what she just uh instead of uh sighing 1.00

06:10:11.900 but she wants you to know her displeasure brian i'd like to hear i'd like to i'm really tired

06:10:18.380 this is usually when i go to bed like before this yeah yeah yeah it's getting old it's getting

06:10:23.820 getting old i mean if you want you can just leave you know we'll we'll continue the show without you

06:10:28.540 if you if you want i mean that would probably help you right what do you mean help me i'm not trying

06:10:34.620 to bait a clip here but if you're if it's getting old there's the door forgive me for sighing i didn't

06:10:43.100 have issue with with you sighing but i mean you went when you felt like it was necessary that's the most

06:10:50.780 entertaining thing happening here right now what you me saying you can leave is in response to you

06:10:58.860 saying this is getting old it not in response to you sighing if it's late you're tired it's getting

06:11:05.420 old you're welcome to see on tilt donated 200 exactly it's because you can't see their red flags from

06:11:13.100 their beginning hence you're making wrong decisions to begin with if you worked on yourself you would

06:11:18.540 see it from the get-go you're right i'm really delusional so maybe that should help me

06:11:22.620 that's a good statement for everyone i mean yeah i need to work on that all right let's get

06:11:33.420 through the tweets is your 50 year old boyfriend gonna approve of these i don't have a 50 year old

06:11:38.860 boyfriend oh read it nothing gives me a bigger ick than a man asking me to send pictures of myself oh my

06:11:47.660 god i hate this so much so i there's two things firstly a man that'd be asking like

06:11:52.540 send me a selfie or like if i don't know you like why are you asking to see pictures of me

06:11:58.220 like what or the worst is if i'm saving to go get my nails done and they ask me to show me the color

06:12:02.540 of my hands like babe hang it up yeah that's all is there another one 0.99

06:12:12.940 oh this is recent yeah this is recent oh oh it was two years ago male men are liars 0.98

06:12:19.420 go ahead you can read as i close this 21st year of life i cannot stress enough that men liars and

06:12:25.180 always have your own back see i guess um two months ago three months ago i was just like really upset

06:12:32.540 because like a lot of people were like saying they was going to do stuff for my birthday they didn't

06:12:36.620 come through and like well go into specifics on that a lot of people were going to do things for your

06:12:40.940 birthday or a specific person was going to do things no a lot of people said they were going to do

06:12:45.820 stuff for my birthday what were they going to do for your birthday what happened like they were just

06:12:48.700 making false promises they were just like oh let me gifts and just stuff because like i had like a

06:12:54.700 speech oh isabella why are you laughing i don't want to get in trouble no it's not pretty particular

06:13:03.660 this whole conversation it's like okay so i had planned like a ski trip to um for my birthday and like

06:13:11.180 someone just like randomly was like oh i have the accommodations not that i needed the accommodations

06:13:16.540 but then when it came time to pay for the accommodations they went ghosts and i'm like 0.94

06:13:21.420 that son of a bitch like why would you say that that's weird or like i was waiting someone like said 1.00

06:13:28.140 they were gonna get me like like help me out with like the actual dinner party booking and then they went 1.00

06:13:33.740 ghosts and i'm like now i have to do everything myself truly monsters truly monsters it's my birthday 0.99

06:13:40.380 like it's not a regular day yeah it's just wow so because those men are liars my father's a liar 0.98

06:13:48.140 and my no baby this is my twitter if it's all men then you know this is my this is my diary 0.98

06:13:57.980 i cannot believe that those men on your birthday did not pay for your ski resort trip no it's because

06:14:03.500 they said they were going to do something don't say you're going to do something you be quiet because

06:14:07.340 i would handle it myself now i have my faith in you who were these men

06:14:15.580 never mind okay here we go now we're getting somewhere okay it's too much talking

06:14:21.500 too much talking too much talking have you ever been on a sugar website no

06:14:29.900 i just get i just really i have really nice friends in my life you know friends how

06:14:39.340 you pay for your taco trip total

06:14:41.900 well you ski trips no no i i i pay for myself but like i'm saying they just randomly said oh

06:14:48.780 let me know where you're staying and how much it's gonna be and then i was like okay this is the

06:14:52.140 reservation crickets okay all right let's get through the tweets what else we got

06:15:00.780 there's more there's more reason whoa one thousand why i dislike tracy on tilt donated two hundred 0.98

06:15:09.100 dollars life advice for the girl in blue read the book parenting from the inside out if you want

06:15:16.380 to stop meeting all men who are liars knowledge is power girl not trolling on twitter ranting about

06:15:22.700 men thanks i'll take your advice you sound like a really good person thank you tracy on tilt i mean

06:15:29.500 tracy does sound like a good person thank you okay uh so the reason say i don't even know what this

06:15:37.820 is reason a thousand why i dislike men

06:15:44.620 as long as she takes so you don't like men oh i but i didn't know i had so much anti-men stuff on

06:15:50.700 twitter um that one i the one i i didn't dislike that one because he said that guy was saying that

06:15:56.300 he was gonna make his girlfriend save up for her portion of the trip and

06:15:59.500 i i have the vacation wait so that's why and yet another monster in a sea of monsters what a

06:16:04.700 monster yeah yeah never seen so many psychopaths he's gonna make her save up and pay for her own 1.00

06:16:12.380 trip like no because he already had the money for the trip and now you're watching her suffer like

06:16:16.540 that's not a real man don't do that terrible terrible okay next is there another tweet or

06:16:22.700 i'll just

06:16:23.900 i'll just

06:16:26.780 yo

06:16:27.340 i'm so sorry read it read it read it

06:16:33.660 flow billy makes me want to rob

06:16:35.580 so in this tweet you are admitting to want to uh commit a felony against men 0.67

06:16:44.220 um and you guys are chuckling about it that's really sexist of you guys i think especially you

06:16:51.500 isabella how did if i was like yeah i want to i want to rob women well i wouldn't take you 1.00

06:16:58.140 seriously like i know her so i know she's not being what you think i wouldn't do it but she has 0.96

06:17:02.300 i don't think so she has this one song about like robbing like these guys for their weed and 1.00

06:17:07.660 like kicking them out the house and like me and my girls love that song and i was like yeah that's

06:17:11.580 the vibe and this is uh the kind of the culture uh you know the the music that people are listening

06:17:18.540 to where it's glorifying uh robbery felonious activity i would never do a rap cardi b joked about

06:17:25.180 um drugging men and take stealing their money you know it's just just like kind of socially

06:17:31.740 acceptable to like you know maybe victimize men and stuff i need to go clean up my twitter after

06:17:37.740 this i didn't know this was on there at least you're a good sport about a lot of the people in the

06:17:41.260 chat are saying you're a good sport next is there another one are they really oh this was

06:17:46.700 recently i was real angry that scroll down a little bit nick so we can see the

06:17:50.940 just oh there's nothing else oh why so many men don't celebrate valentine's and then

06:17:58.140 they simply don't want to be held accountable to do so men are not accountable or they're they're

06:18:03.500 lacking accountability don't want to waste money on your corporate another man disappoint you by not

06:18:09.980 giving you that you wanted i don't want to get into that because that took a lot of energy on my life

06:18:14.940 the past couple days wait we need more just be totally up front just tell us about all the

06:18:22.300 the stuff you're involved with laid all out on the table i'm not involved with a lot actually be honest

06:18:31.020 i just put my hopes too high

06:18:35.100 but no on that note that was just really you know okay you should you should show up for your

06:18:40.940 girl on valentine's day i really stand by that i think the girl should actually she should be the 0.89

06:18:46.220 one who buys i get me flowers get me chocolate what's up yeah what's up i'll get you the gift

06:18:51.740 too but you can't come empty-handed oh i'm coming empty-handed it's called reparations

06:18:58.140 reparations for what for for the years that men have been in servitude and enslaved 0.98

06:19:04.940 by women andrew's probably like what the fuck are you talking about you know listen we are we have 0.98

06:19:14.540 been the trying to get your financial workhorses you know you guys have had a good deal for a very 0.99

06:19:23.100 long time and actually feminism has it up for a lot of y'all i agree it used to be you didn't have 1.00

06:19:29.660 to work now you gotta worry it doesn't seem like it's up anything for you see like it's been fantastic

06:19:35.100 it seems like it's been a fantastic ride so far i'm a very hard-working even the traditional

06:19:40.700 social order kind of placed a lot of burden on men and was kind of in a lot of ways

06:19:48.460 kind of like a lot of women would feel like in a privileged position to not have to work now 0.99

06:19:55.180 and to be taken care of by their husband but the economic reality which is somewhat to be blamed

06:20:01.660 by feminism uh just if you double the labor pool that's going to have an economic impact 1.00

06:20:11.260 and look i think look i think uh it's fantastic that uh you know i think women should be should work

06:20:17.660 or well should be allowed to work if they want to but there are certain economic realities that

06:20:23.580 go with that you're right am i going to get cancelled for what i just said i don't know

06:20:28.700 is that cancelled i think that was fair i'm like women should work i want women in stem so we can 0.99

06:20:33.580 beat cancer right andrew andrew what don't you think okay andrew do you know somebody who's

06:20:39.500 suffered we're not going to beat cancer because women are in stem oh but but hear me out here right 1.00

06:20:43.660 okay sorry do you agree that that there are some genius and smart women out there don't be a misogynist 1.00

06:20:50.140 andrew come on i'm giving you a layup here you got this there's andrew come on there's a smart there

06:21:00.060 there are genius women there's some smart women out there no genius women andrew that's very smart 0.98

06:21:07.260 women i think okay here's look i think we've all been we've all known somebody who's had a serious

06:21:15.740 disease and i don't want to be flipping i know sometimes i can come off as a bit you know playing

06:21:21.420 around i don't want to be flipping about this we all know somebody who's had cancer a family member

06:21:27.180 whatever who's had an illness or a disease and i'm absolutely in favor of

06:21:35.820 i don't know what the right word is here i'm using this word in the most

06:21:39.500 good light way we should exploit the intelligence and genius of women to tackle the issues of cancer 1.00

06:21:50.780 of disease of illness because if we just throw the intellectual woman power 1.00

06:21:58.380 instead of manpower at cancer and men so you just want to usher in the apocalypse that's that's what is

06:22:05.100 that what is that what's no no look if we can have women and men cooperating to tackle 1.00

06:22:16.300 cancer yeah illness disease i've seen alzheimer's firsthand that's not pretty well 0.97

06:22:23.260 dude this fucking laptop came out of fucking nowhere it came at me bro sorry guys i'm tweaking 1.00

06:22:28.620 i'm fucking spazzing out right now i'm sorry i think we should have we need women so women are the 1.00

06:22:37.660 answer what's that women are the answer yeah uh i don't know about that but i'm in favor of 0.98

06:22:47.660 we need more women in stem if they're inclined to do it and we need them studying 1.00

06:22:52.220 fucking cancer research shit i don't know what the pre what you're studying in college too i don't 0.99

06:22:59.020 know if it's biology i don't know what it is we need women to go and tackle cancer and 1.00

06:23:03.900 fucking illnesses and diseases and alzheimer's because that shit is not pretty but what we need 0.99

06:23:09.500 to do hold on let hear me out andrew you'll like this part where where all the psychologists come 0.99

06:23:13.740 from then yeah hear me out we have to defund because you know there's there's uh what's it called

06:23:20.300 there's uh subsidies for various liberal arts programs like we're gonna defund feminist studies 1.00

06:23:29.100 gender studies uh you know sociology we're gonna defund that you want to study that you gotta there's

06:23:37.340 no subsidies for you in fact just get it rid from it's useless we subsidize the stem fields for women 1.00

06:23:43.580 no we subsidize the stem field here here's my view on college i'm in favor of

06:23:47.260 paid free college only for stem though and we have to get rid of 1.00

06:23:54.700 feminism feminist studies sociology the soft sciences get rid of it well you can go to college 0.61

06:24:03.420 for free if you study stem you like that andrew it's good right it's good andrew may i ask you a

06:24:13.180 question do you think women overall are not intelligent or less intelligent than men

06:24:22.540 yes wow wow that is whoa that's a very that's very why do you believe that i think that they have

06:24:29.740 very low functional intelligence generally it's just me though it's now i'd look okay look could be

06:24:35.660 yeah yeah okay what andrew's trying to say as his interpreter you know as andrew's interpreter okay

06:24:45.820 there's this there's this a hypothesis called the greater male variability hypothesis so on the average

06:24:53.580 men and women are about equal but what you have is you have men you have a portion of men who are

06:25:02.300 if you think of a bell curve right you have there's a greater proportion of men who are really really 0.85

06:25:09.500 stupid right and then there's a greater proportion of men who are very very intelligent right the average 0.97

06:25:17.900 is equal 0.99

06:25:22.220 it's a hypothesis i don't know if it's actually true he's talking about on either end of the spectrum

06:25:26.780 it's called the greater male variability hypothesis well i'm just i'm just basing what i'm saying

06:25:33.180 i couldn't i couldn't tell you for sure that i would base any of this on like a key research or any

06:25:38.780 of that i'm just talking about general observations so when she makes a general observation that all men

06:25:44.140 are liars and i take issue with that i should logically take issue of course sure take issue with

06:25:49.820 it i will say i love men i'm not i'm not a man hater let's do the tweets we gotta get we got it we got

06:25:54.700 one more okay oh plus that was really recent plus also right or there's one more after this

06:26:01.980 that was like is that while i'm going mute he was wait look you're you're joking you're

06:26:08.220 troll of course he's shitposting i thought that was your whole the whole thing you were doing right 0.75

06:26:11.820 there with the whole speech and or were you were you serious that you wanted to about what the 0.96

06:26:17.020 stem yeah yeah i'm serious i thought you were just shitposting no i'm serious really yeah

06:26:23.260 we'll talk about it we'll refine it better uh we'll talk about that for the show but uh okay

06:26:28.620 tweets okay well my i first said if i don't wake up to a box of roses at minimum on valentine's day

06:26:36.300 i'm never speaking to anyone ever again february 5th and then february 5th and then on valentine's

06:26:41.580 day i said well i'm going mute for the rest of the year and it was nice knowing y'all so your valentine's

06:26:46.380 day did not go well it's been remedied but um it i was really mad that day i was really angry actually

06:26:55.100 yeah but everything's good now why would you go mute for the rest of the year because no one

06:27:00.540 deserves to speak to me what unless you can pay her five to ten thousand dollar month i know i 1.00

06:27:07.900 never said allowance excuse my words i never said that i never said that that's not true

06:27:14.220 uh is it 20 000 you said there's another one nick

06:27:17.020 that's that's it oh okay uh we gotta get to dez and then we're gonna wrap okay dez

06:27:28.860 you're you do only fans you're describe yourself as a feminist kind of 1.00

06:27:32.780 okay you said dating is hard nowadays all the good men are taken lol or insecure as fuck o-m-f-g-g-g 0.99

06:27:43.580 i think being a stripper and in that industry makes dating hard um 1.00

06:27:51.340 most most definitely um i think it takes a secure man to date a woman doing what i'm doing um

06:27:59.580 um but then yeah so do you think that men who wouldn't want to date you are insecure

06:28:08.300 i don't think because you said it takes a secure man to date you i think it it does take a secure

06:28:13.820 man to date um a stripper or somebody who does only fans and sex work and stuff but but as a man

06:28:19.420 insecure for not wanting to date you because you do that profession i don't think it's every man who

06:28:24.700 doesn't want to date me is insecure but i think that that's a big majority of the reason because the

06:28:29.340 reasons that they give me are oh like i don't want to um touching another guy or engaging with another

06:28:36.460 man and stuff but it's like okay that's my job though and like so is it insecure though but if

06:28:41.660 you know that that's just for my job and stuff and that's like i'm not doing anything outside of my job

06:28:49.500 then i believe that you're being a little insecure unless that's just really truly truly your core

06:28:58.860 values and stuff too then that's fine but i do think about respect respect on for do you think

06:29:07.020 that a man would have a lot of self-respect if he was dating a stripper um personally tracy on tilt

06:29:14.060 donated 200 a secure man would not want to wife you up people date to marry you're setting up your

06:29:22.140 future children to be trolled and bullied in school and that's unfair to them i don't want they didn't

06:29:27.260 ask to be born you what i don't want kids okay yeah but so anyway back to what i was asking thank you

06:29:36.060 tracy do you think tracy got a lot of money are you gonna hit up tracy after this no what if is tracy

06:29:46.620 tracy is kind of a gender neutral name right it could be she tracy could be a man right yeah maybe i 0.96

06:29:54.780 thought tracy's more mostly he or she tracy confirm or deny penis or vagina okay so when you're talking 0.99

06:30:01.980 about respect though do you think that a man would have a lot of self-respect if they would go for a 0.94

06:30:07.340 sex worker um well that depends on what his outlook on respect is from your outlook from my outlook yeah

06:30:17.580 i mean i'm still a person you know i'm not saying you're not a person yeah but i'm still and i still

06:30:23.020 have my values and stuff so like why why should dating me or any other sex worker make your um

06:30:31.420 your values lower because it doesn't seem like it's very respectful for my girlfriend to grind her 1.00

06:30:36.940 vagina on men i mean does that seem like it's respectful to you because it seems like it's 1.00

06:30:43.260 way not very respectful to me it brings me a bag though so i you i like my bag it's like you 0.87

06:30:49.980 you but then there's also a benefit of if you're with me too then you know like then i'm sharing

06:30:56.620 i'm bringing you up as well too but again you have to yeah but that would be the same thing if you were

06:31:01.740 a thief but you why so why why would that why if you know what i'm saying is that it'd be the same

06:31:07.900 thing if you were a thief you could be bringing your significant other up with your stolen property

06:31:12.460 but that wouldn't mean that a self-respecting person would like want to go after a criminal right

06:31:18.380 yeah but i'm also not a criminal and i'm not saying you're a criminal i'm just making an analogy

06:31:24.700 yeah yeah but just just because i'm a sex worker doesn't mean that my that i don't have respect for

06:31:32.140 myself and that somebody who dates me isn't going to have respect for themselves you know if anything

06:31:37.500 like i think that you i don't want to say that you're having respect for yourself by dating someone

06:31:44.300 in that industry but um i don't know where it's going tracy on tilt donated two hundred dollars

06:31:52.700 the real world taught me lessons that i had to learn they're hard pills to swallow and i'm sorry

06:31:59.180 it hurts but it's the truth you can't live in delusion all of your life you got live in reality

06:32:05.420 thank you tracy is the f does that stand for female or are we just gonna ignore f maybe be 0.99

06:32:13.580 for female you know could be a female are you female tracy thank you tracy uh do you think that

06:32:19.740 you mentioned like it's hard to find a good good man um what do you think a good man wants do you

06:32:26.460 think he wants a girl who's selling herself no for ten dollars a month online no um does that answer 1.00

06:32:33.580 your question yeah but there's but there's more to me than just my industry you know it's you

06:32:41.900 think about how you're looking at this to the prism of you so me me yeah from his perspective

06:32:47.820 from the perspective of him but i wouldn't even want to be involved with anybody who that's about

06:32:53.420 you again oh god can we make it about him now well i guess he would be

06:33:00.540 his points would be valid because yes grinding on another man and what isn't ideal to another man 0.98

06:33:13.100 like if he weren't a sex worker and he started grinding on like one of his buddies in front of 0.71

06:33:17.660 him would you think yeah that's pretty respectful thing to do probably get molly whopped right in the 1.00

06:33:22.620 face yeah it wouldn't be like not the greatest best idea i don't know what molly whopped is but

06:33:31.980 like somebody gets punched yeah okay right but anyway if he did that front you would you would be

06:33:38.380 like well okay if a guy would let you do that not a lot of self-respect right yeah but i have my

06:33:45.500 own reasons for being in that industry and doing what i'm doing and stuff sure well i'm not even

06:33:52.140 taking any of that away i'm just saying that you're looking at everything through the prism of you can i

06:33:57.020 ask you a question so if a guy was willing to like give you an allowance to stop doing of and stripping 0.73

06:34:02.860 would you consider it um maybe in a different sense because my only fans i actually have a vision

06:34:11.020 for sorry that i want to turn it into something tracy on tilt donated two hundred dollars thank

06:34:18.620 you tracy last donation i'm a female i'll gladly go on your show and talk sense into these females 1.00

06:34:25.900 someone needs to lead them onto the right path in life but i have to ask my fiancee's permission first

06:34:34.300 uh tracy if you want to be on the show just shoot us a dm on instagram at whatever where was i

06:34:40.220 i forgot uh said you have a vision with your only something about your you're gonna start a

06:34:46.460 business or if if somebody were to like offer me um a sustainable lifestyle style where i didn't have

06:34:54.140 to do only fans or strip anymore i would i of course i would be inclined to take that role in that position

06:35:01.100 and stuff but i think that i would also have them as like hobbies more so than anything because i enjoy

06:35:08.220 pole dancing i i like it as a sport you know um sport are there points in people do competitions and

06:35:17.580 all that stuff it's a really intense workout it takes a lot of core i don't know if pole dancing is a

06:35:23.260 sport i don't think is any form of dancing a sport isn't dancing an art well a sport art form it's a form

06:35:31.500 of movement and working out so yeah it might be sure it might be physically demanding but i don't know

06:35:37.420 if it's a sport it's to each their own it's not to each their own like sport has an actual anyway whatever

06:35:45.500 it's not i'm not gonna argue about everything but okay um but yeah i would keep them as like side

06:35:53.020 hobbies and stuff do you think do you think pole dancing will ever you know sort of reach the you

06:35:58.860 know comparatively speaking when it comes to sports like you know the fifa do you think there

06:36:03.580 will ever be like a fifa of the pole dancing community do you think there will be you know like

06:36:10.460 you know they'll sell jerseys of the best pole dancers i could see that happening yeah like soccer

06:36:16.700 players you know how like there's you know ronaldo and christiano ronaldo and messi

06:36:22.620 and i can totally see robert lewandowski yeah do you think that there will be like

06:36:31.340 yeah okay i'm just being kind of bratty okay all right uh but okay so but you're saying like you

06:36:38.700 wanted a good man where you can't find the good men dating is hard nowadays all the good men are taken

06:36:44.940 or insecure um but we looked at your we didn't subscribe we looked at your bio on only fans and

06:36:55.100 it says in addition to costing ten dollars a month you do twerking fully nude customs dildo play solo 1.00

06:37:01.260 pussy and anal play boy girl content dick ratings girl girl content coming soon so you do boy girl content 1.00

06:37:08.300 on your only fans with people that i'm comfortable with yeah it's very it's very minimal as well do you 1.00

06:37:15.500 think most good men want to date women who have videos out there in the public no but i'm sure 1.00

06:37:23.900 most good men watch those videos well i don't know what's that not good men i wouldn't say okay

06:37:33.100 portraying to be but that's a little bit different whether they watch it or not um is different than

06:37:39.740 whether they'd be in a relationship with a woman who produces how can you watch it though and then

06:37:44.460 not want to be in a relationship with somebody i watch the nfl i don't want to play in the nfl

06:37:51.260 or foot i don't want to not i wouldn't be able to play in it but i wouldn't want to go and play

06:37:55.500 football pleasure about it and stuff so your your argument your argument is in if you watch something

06:38:03.660 if you consume a product you must romantically want to date the person that produces the content

06:38:09.580 just in that sense not in a general term no but that's but your argument is

06:38:14.860 a man is obliged or should not object to dating a woman who does porn because 0.60

06:38:21.180 he happens to watch porn that's your argument i guess yes okay i think it falls i don't really

06:38:29.260 think that logically makes sense like just because you consume something doesn't mean you need to be

06:38:35.820 romantically but it's just interested sense of like like you're consuming it you're consuming porn

06:38:47.180 but you're to the public you're against porn no not necessarily you could be you could have no

06:38:56.060 issues with porn you may very well watch porn but when it comes to your romantic life your

06:39:02.460 sexual life your relationship life you wouldn't you don't want to be with somebody who does you might

06:39:09.020 not have any objections to porn production but you just you wouldn't want to date a woman who's 1.00

06:39:14.140 fucked a hundred men on camera yeah okay i can see that okay that's fair all right she agrees 0.82

06:39:21.820 why not i mean i get it like again it comes down to the fact that like your man doesn't want to see 0.97

06:39:29.580 that and like why doesn't he want to see that is it a respect thing is it insecurities is it oh is it

06:39:35.900 a respect thing it seems like it's a respect thing but is it but is it always a respect thing though

06:39:41.500 because i think i don't think it is though i really think that it has to do with insecurities

06:39:46.300 as well what would make him insecure the fact that i have to go up and speak to men and talk to them

06:39:53.340 and be close to them around them whether i'm grinding on them or not you know but that's why

06:39:57.660 i said a real man no i don't know what there seems to be a big delineation i have to engage with men and 0.98

06:40:04.700 occasionally shake their hands versus i grind on men's penises that seems like a huge difference 0.93

06:40:11.820 it is not sure thank you it takes a very secure man today to sx worker just like sean eva we react 0.98

06:40:20.380 oh wait he dumped her the second it became inconvenient your bullied kids can't dump you

06:40:26.620 the only way out is unaliving yourself uh we we actually uh reacted to the whole sean evans thing

06:40:34.940 at the beginning of the uh stream but yes that's a perfect example thank you not nasha navajo she doesn't

06:40:40.940 she doesn't want kids though so i mean yeah i just don't understand how it's a security or insecure

06:40:45.580 issue it just seems like a respect issue to me and it would be highly disrespectful for you to

06:40:52.220 uh i don't know like walk over and do that with some other guy if he was just in the room your

06:40:58.860 boyfriend was in the room and he did that wouldn't would you say ah you know you just really are kind

06:41:03.820 of insecure you need to just relax while i go over here and grind all over this guy do you would you 1.00

06:41:10.060 say that to him no why because i'm not working i'm not working though so what's the delineation

06:41:19.260 i don't know you also wrote men like to be comfortable more often than not if you meet

06:41:26.780 a guy and the first thing you do is hook up he's going to be comfortable with that dynamic

06:41:30.780 and it can be hard to work out of it so when you say that what do you mean by work out of it

06:41:38.460 like okay so say you want to have a relationship with you want to have a relationship with somebody

06:41:47.660 but the first day you guys hook up and then you get comfortable within that dynamic so like

06:41:56.060 he's going to be comfortable with the fact that all he wants and is getting his 0.99

06:42:00.060 pussy and he doesn't need anything more but you may want more and you'll have to like 1.00

06:42:07.980 either work out of it or just end that relationship do you mean work out of it as in 1.00

06:42:14.060 withhold sex it could whatever you need to do to work out if it means withholding sex having

06:42:22.940 deeper conversations being more open with each other but when you say you mean work out of it

06:42:28.700 work out of the casual sex into into a something more more serious monogamous relationship

06:42:38.220 okay well i think that's sort of when it comes to having sex that's kind of pandora's box like once

06:42:44.380 you've had sex with a guy i would argue most men are going like if you have sex with him and then

06:42:50.860 you're like whoa whoa whoa hold on actually no let's get to know each other better first i think

06:42:57.020 look you're free to do that absolutely seems like mixed signals but a lot of guys are gonna be like

06:43:02.780 well we already did it i would like most guys are gonna be like that's really weird like you should

06:43:10.700 have been if you're gonna play the game you should have been proper about it you can't do this whole

06:43:17.340 thing of like well it was a mistake then he's gonna actually feel like well he's gonna feel bad about

06:43:23.980 it or something no like like like you guys like did like talk and have conversations before and

06:43:28.940 stuff it's not just like well like it was a one night stand and then you regret it after and want

06:43:34.060 a relationship not like that okay just more like like so you guys were friends before something and

06:43:40.780 you hooked up and now that's the only dynamic that you guys have but you so you're saying you're gonna

06:43:52.860 withdraw sex is that what you're to in order to if that's what i'm not saying that i would do that

06:43:59.500 but if that's what it takes for somebody to get into a more serious relationship from like that

06:44:06.220 fuck buddies situation to something else then it's not even clear to me if women making men 0.98

06:44:12.780 wait to have sex is going to guarantee you a long-term no i'm not saying wait to have sex 0.97

06:44:18.780 i'm saying like like if that if that's what somebody wants to do but i'm just saying like

06:44:23.340 you could have more like conversations with that person or be more open and communicate more

06:44:30.540 okay you also said so i guess my point is dating in this modern age is hard most of us are looking for

06:44:34.700 the next best thing to come around and not willing to take the time and effort that is needed in a

06:44:39.900 relationship are you describing yourself um not myself my experiences yeah i don't think people

06:44:51.900 in my own experiences i don't think that people have taken the time enough to like

06:44:57.260 i don't know maybe it's just my generation but they're not wanting to like 0.98

06:45:00.780 commit and settle and stuff okay um okay we'll touch on that you said you believe there's a lot

06:45:09.980 to do with instant gratification like situationships you get all the benefits of relationship besides the

06:45:15.420 commitment it's a dating loophole so can you be a bit more specific who gets the benefits is it the

06:45:20.140 man that gets the benefits in the situationship i think it's it could be either or whoever's

06:45:25.260 either both different ways okay um okay and you said something about commitment here do you guys

06:45:34.140 think that um going around the table on this uh and you wanted to talk about why do men have a hard

06:45:41.820 time committing do you guys think that men have a hard time committing to women overall yeah are men

06:45:51.100 commitment phobic i've heard that term a lot i mean i really think it just depends on a man of course

06:45:56.860 it depends but um generally speaking are men scared of commitment i've heard this said i don't know i

06:46:05.100 mean i personally like i haven't heard any of these things before so i don't know okay what about you um

06:46:11.020 um i think that men like yeah i don't know well in your notes you said men have why do men have a hard

06:46:23.420 time committing um i don't know why they have a hard no that's not what i'm asking but you you think men

06:46:32.060 have a hard time committing yeah yeah i don't know i'm not sure maybe younger men more i think men have

06:46:43.660 a hard time committing to a woman they don't want to commit to but when they do want to commit to

06:46:47.260 someone it's pretty easy for them okay all right well question for the for the ladies here 0.99

06:46:55.980 of the times you've think of like it could be shorter term relationships but also including

06:47:04.780 long-term relationships boyfriends more often than not who would you say has ended the relationships

06:47:12.060 you were the man and if you want to actually say well three out of four i ended it i ended all of them

06:47:18.300 you've ended all of them um i've ended like two out of four two out of four yeah okay fifty percent

06:47:25.740 okay like mutual ghosting okay um mutual agreement usually i've ended maybe like two of them but

06:47:35.660 otherwise it was coming to a mutual decision okay all but one they ended it i ended all of them

06:47:44.060 ended all of them i did you ended all of them it's very interesting to me and look some of you guys

06:47:50.140 were didn't have a very strong position on the whole while men are afraid of commitment it's interesting

06:47:55.900 to me that women complain often that men are scared of commitment um yet when you do get commitment

06:48:04.700 a lot of you women overwhelmingly are the initiators of ending said commitment and this is also evidenced 0.97

06:48:11.500 by for example divorce statistics women initiate 80 of divorces oh i wish men would marry me i wish i

06:48:18.140 could get married i wish men would make the ultimate commitment yet in the ultimate commitment women are 0.98

06:48:23.660 overwhelmingly initiating divorces and in breakups i would also argue women overwhelmingly initiate 1.00

06:48:29.900 breakups so when you do finally get the commitment that you so desperately want it's interesting to me that

06:48:35.340 women overwhelmingly are terrible at commitment because you end the commitment overwhelmingly why is that 1.00

06:48:47.020 why do we end the commitment or the relationship look some of you said it was kind of 50 50 but

06:48:53.420 i've heard from a lot of women and it seems to me that women overwhelmingly end relationships so you 1.00

06:48:59.500 want commitment but you overwhelmingly end the commitment that's interesting so wouldn't that

06:49:06.220 also explain perhaps men's hesitance to commit to women because women are much more likely to be the

06:49:12.620 ones to initiate the breakup or initiate the divorce so men are scared of us they're not scared i don't think

06:49:19.420 it's scared although perhaps i think if men are scared of commitment for example marriage i think they're

06:49:26.780 absolutely righteous in that position because they get absolutely destroyed by the biased family court

06:49:33.020 system they get destroyed in divorce through uh community property through alimony no i mean they're

06:49:39.340 terrified of you right not it's not scared terrified okay but not because of you they're terrified of the

06:49:47.740 situations which happen around women that lead to really terrible outcomes for a lot of men that's what

06:49:55.660 they're terrified of okay i could see that

06:50:01.740 okay moving next notes we have only two more here you said uh yeah i think too you said sugar daddy with

06:50:09.900 a weight fetish toxic relationship through gas well i'll let you tell us the story what was the sugar daddy

06:50:17.900 with a weight fetish um i had like this sugar daddy um from the club and he would have me like he would

06:50:30.540 give me money but have me send him videos of me like eating and like looking like overweight and stuff

06:50:37.820 because he got off on that i guess and like all ears or whatever feeders yeah i don't know if that's

06:50:43.180 yeah he was trying to like get me to like gain weight yeah that's a feeder and i did it for like

06:50:49.420 a little bit but i got it was weird it was really weird so i stopped and then he also liked oh go

06:50:55.180 ahead he also liked like heel play and stuff what's that it's i don't know like it's not it was all it

06:51:03.420 was always with clothes on and stuff but he'd have me like choke him out with my heels from the club like

06:51:08.140 he bought me like nine inch heels like choke him oh you would meet up with him at the club okay he

06:51:13.420 would book vips um how much do you charge for a a heel choke out well that well he would pay me like

06:51:23.100 monthly like oh you had an allowance yeah it would be like um how much did he pay like because he had

06:51:29.820 it on i would get like a couple grand a month and then like if i gained like an extra five ten pounds and

06:51:35.340 i get like 500 to a thousand and stuff and then if i hit 200 then i get like 200 pounds if i hit 200

06:51:41.180 pounds and i get like ten thousand dollars and stuff but i never hit 200 pounds did you have other sugar

06:51:47.980 daddies while like at this point or currently no i kind of have one but okay he's in the he's new what's

06:51:58.380 the allowance looking like um i mean the other night it was like 1200 which was is this online

06:52:08.140 or do he sees you at the club this is through the club okay do you have to give a percentage to the

06:52:14.060 club or this is all what i make in tips is mine okay so you tip 1200 okay nice um okay um something

06:52:24.860 about toxic relationship and i don't know if i want to talk about that anymore wait the statute of

06:52:30.860 limitations has passed it was years ago something about gas and his car yeah yeah is it you wanna

06:52:39.420 you lit it on fire almost almost um you said stripper tails stripper tails what's that 0.99

06:52:48.060 fucking show ducktales stripper tails okay it's duck tails get it right get it right lizzie um 0.98

06:53:02.780 that night was kind of like a fever dream but him and i my ex and i were fighting really bad oh were you 0.99

06:53:09.660 coming down um yes kind of i we were both really up so and you're also bipolar right yes yes um so so

06:53:22.620 tell us about the property damage start there so um basically i was in his i ran to his car because

06:53:30.060 some had happened i saw another girl in the back of his in the back of his car and i got mad and i

06:53:37.340 this gas tank was in my way and it spilled on me and i got pissed and i just started throwing the gas

06:53:43.340 all over his car and the people in it and then yeah and then i tried fighting everybody if there was

06:53:50.220 if there was a match i probably would have gone to jail and i would not be sitting here but that's why

06:53:55.820 we don't do drink liquor anymore wait so the pretext for you throwing the gas on his car and the people

06:54:03.260 inside it was because you were upset that you got gas on yourself or were you upset because

06:54:08.700 another girl was in his car i wasn't even focused on the girl when the gas spilled on me it was just

06:54:14.540 the gas spilled on me and i was pissed so you were getting it's gas everybody else needs gas

06:54:21.020 yes all gas no brakes no brakes all gas okay that's interesting there's no matches around or something okay

06:54:28.780 yeah tell us how much of your boyfriend's stuff over the years that you've broken it's been a

06:54:34.460 lot or a little bit no not a lot at all have you slashed any tires no no i wasn't i wasn't a very

06:54:42.140 violent person it was just if you get your buttons pushed enough something's bound to happen you know

06:54:48.220 so just usually not gas all over the car and people but you said stripper tails what is that that should be 1.00

06:54:55.180 that would be a good segue for stripper you said stripper tails and that you were in a three-year 0.98

06:55:02.060 relationship lots of wild things happened in that relationship um my stripper tails what what else can

06:55:08.700 i i i don't know you guys want to hear like a funny story like some like it's just i think it's funny

06:55:16.620 oh it's seven it's short but basically i was doing um a vip with this guy and i was just dancing 0.82

06:55:24.940 doing my thing and he takes his shirt off and he's like rub my nipples please 0.98

06:55:33.020 i just had to take a step back and i literally immediately started laughing at him because i'm 1.00

06:55:37.020 like rub your fucking nipples excuse me um 1.00

06:55:39.900 i did it because i thought it was funny so wait you rubbed his nipples how much did he pay you 1.00

06:55:48.940 it was like i don't really remember that's disgusting 0.98

06:55:52.540 something oh for the whole vip it wasn't but i just thought it was hilarious so 0.83

06:55:58.300 okay well uh i think we'll leave it on nipples on that um i'm trying to think if there was

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Whatever Podcast - February 19, 2024

Andrew Wilson! DUMPED Because She Did OF？! Men Making $50,000 Should NOT Date？! ｜ Dating Talk #136

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