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00:03:04.400 have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location so where are you from

00:03:09.460 and occupation go ahead hello my name is lillian phillips i'm 22 i'm from derbyshire england

00:03:17.240 and i am an online slag otherwise known as porn star or only funds hoe whatever you want to call it

00:03:25.260 that's me thank you uh thank you flan life for the 10 gifted memberships um what is a slag what is that

00:03:32.560 um slut slag how whore oh same thing so you self-identify as those yes what do they call

00:03:41.600 them here 304s there's a bunch of names we got we got there's a lot of names that that can be used

00:03:47.740 but uh okay all right she's self-aware all right what about you my name is andrea i am 25 years old

00:03:54.520 i'm from arizona and i do only fans all right welcome

00:03:59.260 my name is hazel i'm 30 years old i do only fans

00:04:05.800 where are you from and i am from northern california and i live in la all right welcome

00:04:11.880 my name is jade um i'm 23 years old i'm from las vegas nevada and i work in finance and solar sales

00:04:18.780 all right welcome i'm natalie i'm 22 years old i live between los angeles and washington dc i am

00:04:26.040 the co-host of steve bannon's war room podcast and tv show and investigative reporter and i have

00:04:32.160 a lifestyle and clothing brand rock and roll welcome my name is atlantis and i am 19 years old

00:04:38.620 and i am from california riverside and i'm currently a nourishing student okay great i'm becca i'm 29 years

00:04:46.640 old i'm from arizona i am the co-founder of a non-profit called team vulnerable and i spend

00:04:53.020 most of my time as a stay-at-home mom my name is emmanuel 31 i sound old at this table right now

00:05:01.040 31 i live in arizona and i am the other co-founder of team vulnerable where we help individuals overcome

00:05:07.360 porn use and can you tell us a bit more like about the organization what's the genesis of the start of

00:05:13.420 it like yeah so um long story short i was addicted to porn for 15 years and had everything the world

00:05:20.980 could tell you that would make you happy uh money drugs alcohol um i was married and three years into

00:05:27.360 our marriage it was just starting to destroy our marriage and i asked becca for help in overcoming

00:05:31.540 it and luckily she showed me love grace and mercy and was just there for me and i was able to overcome

00:05:36.520 it and then we felt the lord calling us to help others overcome it so we started off with a married

00:05:40.640 course for couples to go through together then we had single people reaching out to us we want a

00:05:44.500 course so we made one for people who are single and even one for kids and for parents to go through

00:05:48.500 and um it's been amazing so and you said you were addicted personally is that correct is this something

00:05:54.600 that this manifested during your marriage with becca or something that it was pre-existed 15 years

00:06:01.120 i was watching so well before we were married and started with low self-esteem bullied in school

00:06:06.720 um not doing well in school all that stuff and um yeah got it well guys you can uh we have their

00:06:13.940 link for their course in the uh description of the youtube video if you guys want to go ahead and check

00:06:20.060 it out we're going to go around and we'll have some opportunity to uh talk about that more a little

00:06:24.620 later on but we're going to go around the table once more so what is everybody's current relationship

00:06:30.040 status so are you single talking stage situationship friends with benefits relationship married

00:06:36.380 polycule sex cult you know people are in all kinds of arrangements if you're single how long have you

00:06:42.260 been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead i am single and ready

00:06:48.380 to fuck um and i have been single for about um i don't even know what date is it fuck it's 2024 i think i last

00:07:00.720 had a relationship maybe just like two years ago three years ago how long was the relationship um like

00:07:10.300 six months but the one i had before that was two years sorry if you wanted okay yes so your most recent

00:07:15.660 one was six months your longest was two years yes six months two years okay and so um were you uh

00:07:22.220 monogamous during those two relationships yes yes believe it or not you know i am all right

00:07:28.740 okay we'll we'll come back to that i'm not a cheater and remind me how long have you been single

00:07:37.360 uh two years oh two years yeah okay what about you i'm single i've been single for about

00:07:45.480 three years and then the relationship that i was just last in uh was about three years got it and

00:07:51.600 that was your longest relationship yes got it what about you i am in several relationships um my

00:07:58.340 longest relationship uh was six years so yeah so you're you're currently hold on we'll get back to

00:08:05.000 that i've donated 100 dollars i chag the slag lily bloody hell all right um there you there you have

00:08:12.840 it i'd fuck you too as long as you've got a big cock oh god okay all right uh welcome to the whatever

00:08:20.240 podcast my link's down below that's gonna be an interesting show tonight guys all right you're

00:08:28.120 currently in multiple relationships yes what so how many relationships are you currently involved

00:08:33.140 in well all my fans are my boyfriends so i oh and and then i have people that help me do content so

00:08:40.360 i'm in relationships with them too you're all your fans are you're so you're selling like the

00:08:46.460 girlfriend experience oh yes i connect with my fans how many fans do you have i have over 5k fans

00:08:54.040 um i have so how do you yeah how do you manage 5 000 let's change the title of the video to

00:09:01.500 she has 5 000 boyfriends well i have a good following so i talk to the people that follow

00:09:09.900 me on instagram as well as the people that follow me on my spicy site so obviously the ones on my spicy

00:09:16.060 site get the girlfriend experience um so yeah i feel like i have a lot of boyfriends

00:09:21.640 they take my time i send them nudes so yeah but you're not you're not you're siphoning money from

00:09:30.160 them you're not in actual romantic relationships with them i'm not siphoning money they're willingly

00:09:35.500 they're willingly having their money siphoned um well yeah they're my boyfriends you're not in no

00:09:42.880 you're not in romantic relationships with them i am uh they say they send me good morning

00:09:48.640 messages um good night you get 5 000 good morning messages no well some of them on instagram but i'm

00:09:55.400 talking about my my private site so yeah so the ones that are more invested than others obviously

00:10:00.920 um and they're on there longer than others have you met any of them in person oh no they're just

00:10:05.940 virtual boyfriends virtual i only class people that i'm into as boyfriends aka what what do we call

00:10:12.860 that simps simps basically yeah pretty much simps um so do you have any actually in-person

00:10:20.320 relationships um i have someone that helps me with content um that's always there so are you

00:10:26.180 so i have relationships no i'm not single i'm taken by who by you don't need to name his name but

00:10:34.040 no what's what is your relationship status by the world by my fans i'm in a relationship with my

00:10:40.320 fans no can you actually give me a good faith answer to the question i'm in a relationship

00:10:46.260 with your fans or with like a specific individual are you polyamorous do you have multiple in-person

00:10:52.880 boyfriends what do we have virtual boyfriends and i have let's let's remove your only fans

00:10:57.760 and i'm using very big air quotes okay so if you don't count my virtual boyfriends and the person

00:11:02.580 that helps me make content then we can count him perhaps i'm single but you do it you online so you

00:11:10.940 have one person helps you make content so i'm assuming like yeah you're having sexual intercourse with this

00:11:16.120 person correct are you having sexual intercourse with any other person i collab with other female

00:11:22.600 content yeah female talent what about any male talent or no okay so uh do you have a you have a

00:11:31.400 professional relationship with this man who does content with you but do you have a romantic

00:11:35.840 relationship with him i care for him yes i've known him do you have a do you have a romantic

00:11:40.380 relationship with him yeah i guess you could say that i'm just gonna say yeah you have a boyfriend

00:11:47.200 here because i mean yeah we're not official we don't have the title but i know i can count on him

00:11:52.580 well you you sleep with other men no for work no does he sleep with other women no well not that

00:12:00.160 i know not that i know of so you never know i'm gonna say she's got a point if you are getting paid

00:12:06.960 for a gf you are not in a relationship you are a hooker a harlot and a drain upon society may god

00:12:13.760 have mercy on your soul uh yeah the girlfriend experience uh what's a gf i think that stands for

00:12:24.100 the girlfriend experience um so like does it cost money to get the girlfriend experience

00:12:31.960 um not necessarily i give the people that are subscribed to my vip site the girlfriend experience

00:12:39.220 and like i message them what what is the girlfriend experience i don't know what that means if you

00:12:44.340 have a girlfriend that you talk to long distance you could video chat you could but they have to pay

00:12:49.640 for it that sounds like prostitution not a girlfriend once they subscribe to your to your page so once

00:12:55.780 they subscribe to my page they they're able to talk to me and i'll give them the girlfriend experience

00:13:00.480 but it's is it really the girlfriend experience it sounds more like the it doesn't sound like a very

00:13:05.520 good prostitute experience to some degree right i mean well that's what you want to look at it like

00:13:11.260 then that could be i'm not fucking them virtually you are right virtually i'm clicking them virtually

00:13:18.840 she's fucking them virtually yeah so if you want to get virtually link and bio

00:13:25.460 okay all right so did you put me down as single i have you as a prostitute

00:13:34.760 i have you down as in a relationship because it sounds like the guy you make content with you're

00:13:40.740 in a relationship sort of with them okay kind of anyways it's not super important but okay go ahead

00:13:47.580 um i guess i'm talking to somebody uh last yeah yes you're talking i guess yeah i guess we are

00:13:55.320 talking we are talking i'm gonna say that more sternly we are talking yes what does that mean to be

00:13:59.260 talking i don't know i just find the difference between single talking dating in a relationship so

00:14:04.020 stupid i think you're either single or in a relationship at least me personally so you're

00:14:08.100 not in either not in either it's not the fine so you're in the stupid situation

00:14:13.620 no it's not talking stage talking stage what i consider to be a little bit more how long have

00:14:19.420 you been talking um i it's it's honestly like january so beginning of january and then before that i was

00:14:27.840 in a relationship for two years and then i was single for a month and then i was another relationship

00:14:32.140 for two years two years is your longest relationship yeah so would you say you're

00:14:35.840 currently in this situationship see i find i i think that's so i i just think it's so dumb to

00:14:44.740 be like oh i'm talking to someone oh i'm dating someone i'm the kind of person where if i go on a

00:14:50.220 date with you i'm committed fully on the first date that's at least just how i am and so just

00:14:55.020 because it's not defined yet i just i want to say i'm single you're courting i yeah i'm single

00:15:02.080 simple is he uh doing the same thing as you probably not um however i'm aware that not everyone

00:15:09.520 nowadays is like that and that's normal but he has your undivided attention yeah romantic attention

00:15:15.380 yes yes uh so you say but have you had a conversation with him because you've been dating

00:15:20.860 like talking for a month right about a month i mean have you had a conversation with him about

00:15:25.520 is it long distance no not at all um he he knows my views he knows my values and he understands it

00:15:31.980 yeah and i guess he's just deciding whether or not he wants to commit i'm okay to waiting because

00:15:35.880 if i like you i understand that and so i'm just you guys hooked up no okay um

00:15:41.920 do you think he's entertaining other women probably however um i don't really mind whether

00:15:52.200 he is or not because in his head we aren't committed and that's okay okay in my head it's

00:15:56.940 different though and he knows that not necessarily like oh in my head we're in a relationship however

00:16:01.760 he does know that in my head he is the only man who has my undivided romantic attention how long have

00:16:06.940 been talking just since january okay okay wait so you've broached the i want to be in a relationship

00:16:14.760 with you conversation not necessarily like i want to be in a relationship with you however it's i've

00:16:20.760 made my values very clear to him and he understands okay if you're going to continue talking to me this

00:16:25.200 is what i'm going to want if you don't want it stop wasting my time and go away how long are you

00:16:29.360 willing to wait um you know what it's at least with me specifically it's it's not necessarily you

00:16:36.480 have to sit me down and be like oh my gosh here's the date i'm going to be please be my girlfriend

00:16:40.640 blah blah blah it's just necessary it just happens at least for me that's what i've noticed um it's

00:16:46.160 you you get with someone you like them and then if you start loving them love is an action once you

00:16:51.780 start showing that love as an action then it's basically okay we're together at this point

00:16:56.520 how did you meet him at work work what do you do for work again i'm in finance and solar

00:17:02.940 okay so you're like out in the streets selling door to door some no not necessarily so with my

00:17:12.560 finance job i work in loans so things like car loans and things like that okay and then i also

00:17:17.680 work as a little bit of an investment broker on the side so that's my finance side got it and then

00:17:22.960 with solar um my company calls me up and it's like hey jade can you come up here and close this

00:17:27.780 deal and then i go out there and close the deal super simple super easy got it okay what about you

00:17:31.840 i've been single for probably a little north of a year and my longest relationship was probably

00:17:37.620 around a year one year got it okay uh so you've been single for one year any any dates in in that

00:17:46.040 time period any prospects or is it looking kind of bleak i would say bleak i shouldn't have a negative

00:17:52.020 connotation um no i have a very demanding job even though i hate feminism and i don't think women

00:17:58.740 should be working nonetheless that is my current reality um so i've been really been focused on

00:18:04.600 that um and i also think it's kind of hard to even really determine what it means when you're

00:18:09.860 dating someone's situationship stages no offense but when you consider yourself to have 5 000

00:18:14.800 boyfriends and there's platforms like only fans i think that really degrades how you term

00:18:19.240 relationships so i've kind of had struggles with that i quite like taylor mccoy donated 100

00:18:25.780 how can i find the girl in the orange only vans

00:18:30.100 it's dr drea

00:18:33.880 if i if i could say i think i sounds like you are a fellow maybe anxious attachment person in terms of

00:18:42.500 like when i go on a date with someone i kind of immediately like to attach or at least give them

00:18:47.140 my full undivided attention and i think with that comes the ability for women to set boundaries

00:18:51.900 with guys i don't mean that oh hold on mike davis donated oh hey look who it is haven't been here

00:18:57.840 in a while but why you hating brian you know how many sex deprived bums are shooting the place up

00:19:04.320 she's saving lives with the girlfriend experience

00:19:07.520 sign mike davis of course you know what i was i let me walk it back i was wrong she is saving lives

00:19:16.160 out here um just saving lives you know so uh good to see you in the chat mike davis it's uh it's been

00:19:24.800 a while welcome man good to uh good to see you um go ahead with your um no i was just saying that i

00:19:29.680 think setting boundaries like you are in terms of i personally think you should wait till marriage

00:19:34.080 um i think that it's fine to tell a guy that you that you want to do that and when i think

00:19:40.440 platforms like only fans really commodify women's bodies and normalize the idea that if men just pay

00:19:45.660 you like five dollars a month they can get whatever they want out of you you can laugh but the average

00:19:49.840 only fans creator makes about 150 a month that's not even the minimum wage in like kenya um but i think

00:19:56.300 that you set a very dangerous precedent that makes it very hard for women to stand up for themselves in

00:20:00.820 normal relationships and tell guys that they can't just get whatever they want out of you and that

00:20:04.680 you're you can set boundaries and standards oh yep would would the do you guys care to respond

00:20:11.200 to her well personally i i don't mind yeah i don't mind selling myself for five dollars a month honestly

00:20:17.440 ain't nobody making 150 a month a month you don't want the guys paying for porn anyway right

00:20:23.060 no i don't exactly so we're not harming you in any way you could find your fish

00:20:27.680 yeah i would happily never marry someone who pays money for porn but i just think it's sad that you

00:20:34.000 guys reduce your value and self-worth to five dollars a month and that's your perspective well

00:20:40.100 what i'm in my perspective is that i think you guys are worth so much more i think god and who said

00:20:44.860 we're not well i think when you're in your eyes we're not well i'm trying to say i think when you

00:20:49.700 debase yourself to make your entire livelihood dependent on basically the lowest common denominator

00:20:55.380 which is the fact that you guys have boobs a vagina and an ass i think that you're selling

00:20:59.640 yourselves extremely short i have a quick question for you guys well um hold on just a minute okay

00:21:05.520 please allow them an opportunity i'm sorry i get like no but my mind is so fast no we can come back

00:21:12.480 to you but allow them to respond i personally really enjoy my lifestyle i love what only funds and

00:21:17.980 porn it gives me like it gives me freedom um and i i really enjoy being sexualized like i get off to

00:21:25.120 it um and i don't think that's affecting you so i don't think it's any of your business personally

00:21:31.220 well it's not affecting me personally but i think you guys are sort of one of the many i would say

00:21:36.540 arrows in the quiver that are being used to destroy western civilization and traditional values and family

00:21:42.120 values and i think as i'm sure you can attest to you guys are creating the content that is lowering

00:21:47.100 the threshold significantly to make it much easier for men to want to drop out of relationships

00:21:51.400 but who's buying it like it's all your fault yeah no it's not like i'm not saying it's all your fault

00:21:56.480 but you guys are are supplying it and frankly i think when you guys again i'm not attacking you

00:22:00.640 guys as individual people well i mean i think you guys can also take ownership for the kind of content

00:22:06.760 that you're creating um but i think you guys are contributing to it right are you not you're saying

00:22:11.820 you're sitting there laughing saying that you like being objectified and commodified so you're

00:22:15.980 obviously embracing it and you're going down the path of trying to normalize the behavior

00:22:19.860 this is just my personal it is normalized and you know ain't nobody here making 150 a month

00:22:25.060 we enjoy the average only fans creator makes well we're not average as you can see yeah we got

00:22:29.800 thousands of followers on instagram we got like well and to be honest i think that this is one of the

00:22:34.480 most dangerous narratives that only fans spends and frankly i hope you guys like the only fans pr team

00:22:40.180 is paying you a bunch of money because i think the worst part of only fans is that it sells the

00:22:44.120 lie to girls that if you just start posting pictures on the internet of whatever one of

00:22:47.640 your body parts that you will become like a millionaire overnight and you're basically

00:22:51.060 having these girls tank their reputations for what is on average again you can't argue with the facts

00:22:56.380 150 a month you can become a millionaire overnight though i literally have like the platform of only

00:23:02.740 fans was not for everybody obviously it's not for everybody people who already had followings to

00:23:07.540 then leverage it to show you it started out with non-sexual content then it became into into more

00:23:12.780 sexual content and what you guys do but it wasn't really designed for you and to be honest i even

00:23:16.900 take issue with the term only fans because i don't really think that these people are your fans i don't

00:23:22.500 think you guys are celebrities i think it really is devaluing the term fans just because you take

00:23:26.920 pictures of yourself doing weird things with guys doesn't really make you a celebrity i didn't paint

00:23:31.860 myself as a celebrity at all you're calling these people your fans that's what they're called on

00:23:35.980 the side yeah i feel like you're threatened and you're scared we're taking your man for the content

00:23:40.820 you get to make sure that the actors are over 18 the actors in the videos are paid fairly if you

00:23:48.620 look at only fans term if you look at only fans terms they are very vanilla if you go on porn

00:23:55.480 you can find some dirty ass shit on their only fans some dirty shit yeah they are very strict you can't

00:24:02.420 do stuff in public you can't do a lot of certain things so i honestly think that it is a very safe

00:24:08.220 site for people to go on there and show that and you know you do you see that people are over 18 they're

00:24:14.960 encouraged to you know everybody has to sign a release form everybody is consenting if you go on porn

00:24:21.240 i have seen stuff where these girls are looking very uncomfortable only fans you know it's very safe

00:24:27.920 and like for people like us it is possible to make a million dollars overnight because you have to have

00:24:33.500 that x factor it's not for everybody that's what i must say manny go ahead yeah um so one of the to

00:24:39.720 your point natalie the 150 a month you know the one percent rule so you got black china making 90

00:24:44.680 million dollars a year and then you know 50 million 40 million 30 million and then everyone else is

00:24:48.880 zero zero zero zero zero which brings that average amount down there so i think one of the big

00:24:53.020 challenges is when you get onto an only fans and then you put up some posts and you're like i'm

00:24:57.740 gonna be rich and then it doesn't happen and then it's like oh shoot now someone has these photos i

00:25:02.060 think that's one of the the biggest challenges with it but one of the things that was really

00:25:04.960 interesting as beck and i were researching coming on we're like why does somebody watch only fans

00:25:09.340 versus porn because i was never watching uh only fans and what's the big difference because it's free

00:25:13.600 right so what are they looking for the boyfriend experience love connection

00:25:17.640 so here's what was really crazy is we start going through the facts and the numbers and we find

00:25:23.880 90 percent of the people are married who are subbing and we're going whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa and so one

00:25:30.940 of the big challenges i think of what we're trying to stand up for is just the idea of someone is coming

00:25:35.600 here and they're looking for the virtual girlfriend experience but i think about a child walking down and

00:25:40.980 seeing you know that's the hi sorry no no you're fine oh okay i apologize so that kid coming down

00:25:46.900 and seeing you know their dad on there and the divorce and how they could break up a family and

00:25:52.040 it's just it's very very sad so one of the things i like to just bring up is just you know you say they

00:25:57.760 love you which i think you would say they love you your fans i don't i don't think they love me

00:26:02.740 they don't love you no no what would you say well i'm not like i'm not a celebrity they love watching

00:26:08.840 it yeah i think i would put back you know with that whole concept of if they are married men you

00:26:15.180 know with the family and they're running from an issue with their with their spouse and they're

00:26:19.000 saying i don't want to stand up to this i don't want to have that hard conversation just like the

00:26:22.800 hardest conversation i've had in my life was i'm addicted to porn i can't stop this on my own i need

00:26:27.300 help um you know when you say they love you if you say that if you don't say that but do you want

00:26:33.520 to show love to them not in a sexual way but caring about them enough to say you know what i don't want

00:26:38.560 your family to be broken i i care about them but don't get me wrong i'm not in a relationship with

00:26:46.460 them it's not my duty to you know make sure everyone doesn't have a girlfriend and everyone

00:26:53.820 doesn't have a wife and they've not got families because like it's i'm not trying to be like pass

00:26:59.040 the blame but it's not my problem like i'm not the one in a family and if i can just really quick on

00:27:04.060 that one you know one of the things was i was just some guy jerking off in his bathroom for 15 years

00:27:08.480 at 2 a.m you know and i was like i never can make a difference i never i get a lot of i was going i can't

00:27:15.520 make a difference i can't do anything i'm just some guy and what was crazy about it is when we stood up

00:27:20.660 and we just said you know what let's create this course as a team and we were helping couples do

00:27:24.760 it we said if we can help 10 to 20 couples with their course that we made that'd be great and in

00:27:29.260 the first year 450 people got the course in over 25 different countries i was literally on the phone

00:27:33.700 with someone in denmark the other day it's like four days in the future over there but just that idea of

00:27:37.620 we're just nobodies from arizona with no following and just if this could save one marriage if it could

00:27:43.820 prevent one sa from happening if it could help one self-deletion trying to use all your words

00:27:48.880 would it be worth it to stand up and just say you know what that would be worth it

00:27:53.340 just one of those things i mean it's not really like i like she said too it's not really my issue

00:27:58.620 you know like most people who go on there have fake names and everything they don't want to go on

00:28:02.740 there and like talk about their it's a lot of anonymous people we don't know who they are and

00:28:06.420 it's not my problem because at the end of the day i mean hold on one second grid one motorsports

00:28:11.200 donated 100 yeah thank you man appreciate it ryan won't be on long tonight fly a day tomorrow

00:28:16.980 just a reminder that the owner of pays himself 1.3 mil a day these are girls work for the world's

00:28:23.620 biggest pimp feminism for the l feminism for the l let's go thank you grid one appreciate it uh enjoy

00:28:31.800 your fly day tomorrow um but yeah honestly i think if a guy is buying only fans it's probably because

00:28:36.640 the girl isn't satisfying her man so he has to go out and get that somewhere else so you know like it's

00:28:42.440 both of their problems it's not my issue all i cared about is getting paid i actually don't even

00:28:46.800 think it has anything to do with most if a man's in a relationship well i mean that could be wrong

00:28:51.620 on this i don't think he's it's probably men who don't have any dating prospects at all who are the

00:28:56.960 probably the primary customers of uh i give great relationship advice on my family plans well you

00:29:03.860 have 5 000 can we add to that so i wouldn't say can we add to that for a second though because one of

00:29:08.220 the big things when i was addicted to uh porn was i just felt i would tell myself you know what

00:29:13.940 becca just can't handle me because i just need it all the i'm just such a manly man with so much

00:29:18.960 i can't and what happened was once i stopped watching porn it was like oh i don't need i'm

00:29:25.540 not addicted to sex i'm addicted to porn and when we have sex once or twice a week or three times if

00:29:31.340 it's valentine's weekend or whatever but you know when we have these things it's just incredible

00:29:36.160 because it's no longer about uh power or domination or anything that's they're getting off it's about love

00:29:41.800 connection intimacy it's just a beautiful thing seeing it and i would say becca's the last person

00:29:46.160 who it's the fault because one of the things that's interesting like i said this was 15 years

00:29:50.180 in the making she was only with me for six of those years and i wanted to quit i said once i get married

00:29:55.420 i'm done with this three months before the wedding i'm done then i said two months one week one day and

00:29:59.940 it's the night of our wedding and i can't have sex and i'm going i'm so sorry i love you i love you

00:30:04.640 but i have this problem and i'm struggling and i didn't say even in that night i want to quit

00:30:09.420 i just said i i have this problem and it wasn't until i came to her three years later and i just

00:30:14.740 said i can't beat this thing on my own will you be there for me that i was able to finally overcome

00:30:18.960 this thing and really here we can come back to the only no it's fine uh we can come back to the

00:30:24.580 only fans conversation and i know you guys probably want to continue going at it but we will come back

00:30:30.160 let's get through this the relationship status stuff first go ahead uh i'm single okay um i think

00:30:37.540 the last time i've been in a relationship was probably december 2022nd the 20 year 2022

00:30:45.620 oh that's not that's very precise so you've been single for two years about or yeah two okay uh

00:30:52.580 longest relationship that what uh that relationship which is like a year and a half got it okay uh

00:30:59.980 becca what about you married for almost seven years all right i assume the answer is the same for you

00:31:07.100 many but uh same same seven years feels like it's been like three minutes though underwater no i'm

00:31:14.160 just joking that was a joke that was a joke there is a mitch headberg joke that goes something along

00:31:20.180 the lines of uh shit i'm trying to remember what it was there's a girl oh my god i'll have to think

00:31:27.680 what are these fucking references i can't remember any of them it's terrible um amen something wait

00:31:36.620 mitch headberg something about like oh how's it go i know a girl who i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm butchering

00:31:44.880 uh wait let me google it while this comes up donated 100 also the discord spies tell me that

00:31:53.980 the big gfe latina has her type as hard at work even as she sits in front of you laughing gfe indeed

00:32:00.240 sounds like a scammer to me thank you grid one motorsports are the discord spies are saying

00:32:06.700 that you're selling the girlfriend experience but you have uh typers or chatters as they're sometimes

00:32:13.400 called okay how can you talk you've got some fast fingers yeah five thousand people well i can i'm

00:32:19.560 not talking to everyone every day like i spread my love a little more specific how do you spread your

00:32:25.960 love well i'll make time for a few one day the next day i'll make time for the others and then i have

00:32:31.860 like a schedule a lot of them don't want sorry a lot of them don't want to chat yeah a lot of them

00:32:36.640 don't want to chat but a lot of them do just i'm just curious would you guys like say it's looking

00:32:41.260 downrange want these guys to be in healthy relationships where they no longer need to

00:32:45.180 come to you or do you want to always have them perpetually in a state where they either are

00:32:49.560 single or they have these broken relationships where they always need to come to you guys i don't

00:32:53.440 believe that people that watch porn necessarily have an unhealthy relationship i had i know a lot

00:33:00.680 of couples that watch porn together so i'm talking specifically though on the only fans like the

00:33:04.580 girlfriend experience angle of it a lot of the people that i do give the girlfriend experience to

00:33:10.000 really don't have a chance finding a real girlfriend in the real world

00:33:13.720 so do you think that them watching only fans is helping yeah i make helping them get a

00:33:19.740 relationship in the real world honestly i feel like i do practice yeah i yeah i give them

00:33:26.320 advice practice for something that they'll never really need game time eventually i'm happy for

00:33:31.540 mine to get into relationships because that you know what like there's obviously always going to

00:33:34.940 be single men guys think that what you do helps them get into relationships or keeps them

00:33:38.860 you know what i i don't involve myself in their personal life like that much i think it's

00:33:43.720 probably pretty fair to say that what you guys are doing is probably i would say it's making them

00:33:47.300 stray away towards getting into relationships so if you really want them to get into relationships

00:33:51.620 then why wouldn't you i'm not saying i want them to get into relationships i'm not saying i'm not i'm

00:33:55.340 just saying no i'm just saying like so they keep paying whoa whoa whoa i'm just saying

00:33:59.580 girl you do your thing like if he wants to get in relationship he can i want them i want them all

00:34:05.780 to be single i want them all to be single i always have to do shows with other conservative

00:34:10.200 media people and i always just have to talk about like the chinese communist party and all

00:34:13.560 that stuff we could talk about that this is so fun because i get to be on with people who i disagree

00:34:17.620 with so there you go well natalie can't do you think though i mean my view on this is do you think

00:34:25.760 that i that men ought to take accountability on this i don't really blame so much so the women for

00:34:34.320 making this stuff available i mean look there's perhaps some degree of culpability but i think

00:34:38.420 men absolutely have agency and they should take it upon themselves to not and there's always going

00:34:44.820 to be poor and like there's always and i think it's a testament to how masculinity really has been

00:34:49.420 watered down nowadays but i'm just saying i think where i take not even personal offense to it but

00:34:55.860 where i put more of the onus on on the women for it is when and i mean this with all due respect but

00:35:01.100 when you guys sort of have this flippant laughing attitude where you guys are joking about like oh ha ha

00:35:05.380 i want to be commodified i want to be objectified i want to just make money oh it's all about making

00:35:10.140 money i think that just sort of really works to normalize the behavior which a takes the stigma

00:35:15.380 off the guys getting involved in it but more importantly i think it sends the very very very

00:35:19.660 wrong and very dangerous not just i mean for physical reasons but i think for reputational

00:35:23.900 reasons message to other young girls that oh it's so easy i just turn on only fans and i make a million

00:35:29.600 dollars and it's not that's not true no i i agree i agree that people really need to think about it

00:35:35.480 because obviously it affects every aspect of their life i totally agree with that but i mean personally

00:35:42.560 i do it because i enjoy it it's freedom like yeah only fans is not for everybody people people are

00:35:48.880 always gonna watch porn like if i stop doing only fans and porn like they're only fucking you know

00:35:53.420 wank off to another girl so like and if i may add you were talking about making money and let's not

00:35:59.840 lie you can make money doing only fans somebody's making money otherwise nobody would be doing it

00:36:03.900 right so making money getting the attention literally a bigger philosophical question of just like what is

00:36:09.800 the purpose of this life for you would you say yeah and honestly one of my kinks is like really getting

00:36:15.400 off to like guys getting off to me like i i like being sexualized i don't know it sounds weird but

00:36:21.320 it's just one of my kinks what can i say um and so i i love my job i get good money from it i get all

00:36:29.860 the freedom but at the end of the day when you're 80 and you know you're passing away right what is

00:36:34.880 what are you going to say i got my whole one thing i invest my money well and stuff like that

00:36:41.860 what type of relationship do you want to have so i haven't really figured this out yet but i i'd be

00:36:48.780 happy to date someone like in the porn industry as well with me and stuff like that like i don't

00:36:53.480 mind not having a non-monogamous relationship is that correct um yeah um but honestly like i'm not

00:37:02.140 looking for anything for another like 10 years like i am very very happy in myself i really enjoy my own

00:37:08.720 company so for now you just said that your biggest kink is watching other people get off to you and that

00:37:13.880 you basically crave the validation of other people so how can you say that you're just content like

00:37:18.080 living by yourself it sounds like you you do want someone to i don't know i don't want a fucking

00:37:22.360 boyfriend but i i i get off to guys wanking off to me yes that's two different things

00:37:29.260 can i get some more water is that okay yeah am i loud sorry i'm a thirsty girl i squirt a lot so i need

00:37:37.940 to hydrate yeah honestly though i like the attention on only fans like and anyone who's ever known me

00:37:44.360 since like i don't know seventh grade i've just had this flirty like sex appeal to me i love you know

00:37:50.480 i've always like fucking twerked at the dances and shit so i don't know like i've always just kind of

00:37:55.580 been like super horny and stuff and like if you like to have sex and record it then i mean

00:38:02.060 why not monetize make money off of it and it's like not anyone can make money off of it like you

00:38:07.160 have to be that kind of girl you know put yourself out there you got to know how to market things

00:38:12.320 correctly and that's what a lot of people don't do they don't know how to market it and stuff

00:38:16.140 so that's another thing but honestly i like the attention and i like making money off of it and

00:38:21.820 even if i do know somebody who bought my only fans and they have a wife i'm not going to say

00:38:25.920 anything about it because i'm it's not my position he's probably buying 10 other girls only fans too

00:38:31.320 so it's like you know it's like what can i do it's his issue not mine and like she said i'm not

00:38:37.080 invested in their personal lives i'm not sure if that was the rhetorical question as to why one would

00:38:42.120 not participate on the only fans platform but assuming it wasn't just hypothetically say you

00:38:46.960 have children not sure if that's something that you want but how do you think that plays out with

00:38:50.840 you having kids or maybe getting married do you think that that affects them do you think that's

00:38:54.180 a potential reason not to do only fans no i don't really plan on having kids either so i don't

00:38:59.200 think that'd be a thing but even like kim kardashian with her video with ray j and stuff you know like

00:39:04.220 she's one of the richest women out here and like her kids you know north probably knows about it

00:39:09.360 it really doesn't matter you know like people have a past she she spent millions and millions and

00:39:15.500 millions of dollars to get that video off the internet for a reason so she says no it's she has

00:39:20.460 she leaked it herself here let's uh we'll come back to the of discussion a little bit later on

00:39:27.460 in the show i want to get into uh some dating topics first though well actually before that really quick

00:39:33.660 just going around the table this is a question we've been starting to ask um are your parents

00:39:37.700 still together starting with you go ahead yes my parents are happily married 20 years actually okay

00:39:42.380 yep they are still together my parents are divorced 40 years this year together no my dad's dead

00:39:49.420 sorry to hear that yes mine are together uh they were together my father just passed two years

00:39:55.380 sorry to hear that okay uh so we have valentine's day tomorrow this is our first topic of the show

00:40:03.260 valentine's day is tomorrow a holiday that is commercialized it encourages you to buy greeting cards

00:40:10.180 chocolate flowers expensive dinners expensive gifts um so a couple of you wait let's see there's

00:40:18.320 wait you're kind of in a relationship you're in a situation ship

00:40:23.260 but all of you have been in a relationship at one point um who here has been in a relationship

00:40:30.240 during valentine's day everybody okay um did you get your boyfriend for the ladies here did you get

00:40:40.480 your boyfriend anything yeah on valentine's day yes uh yes i did a bottle of henny and a blunt

00:40:46.780 pussy i did not know uh we were going on a trip okay no you didn't get him anything did he get

00:40:58.100 you anything no oh okay i got him anal that's why i stick to anal sex okay oh boy all right these

00:41:10.700 girls are loose with it tonight okay um would you guys be upset if your boyfriend with i know some

00:41:18.020 of you are single but let's assume like you get into a relationship didn't get you anything

00:41:21.620 on valentine's day i'd be hurt you'd be hurt yes you're supposed to give a woman flowers and chocolate

00:41:28.620 that's it i mean it's not that hard but what are you supposed to give the man you know a bottle and a

00:41:34.100 an anal whatever he wants too i i would buy him flowers too and you know what's crazy i actually

00:41:41.520 um heard that guys don't get flowers until their funeral what the fuck yep it's true so i get

00:41:47.400 flowers no i i like a nice well-written card and maybe some quality time so like a dinner

00:41:54.120 as long as he fucked me good i'll be fine all right uh well i did read something uh that men

00:42:03.860 will spend nearly double what women plan to spend and there's varying sources on this 190 dollars

00:42:09.420 versus 96 dollars on average um so uh yeah honestly they need to be spoiling you like throughout the

00:42:17.560 whole year not just on valentine's i like to spoil my guy though like the men need to be spoiling the

00:42:23.420 women yeah and vice versa vice versa if you're in a relationship and you love the person you should

00:42:28.940 spoil each other are you currently being spoiled by you i am not your 5 000 you're you're in person

00:42:35.840 he's spoiling you yes you guys have anything planned for valentine's not yet no i'm probably

00:42:41.080 gonna be really tired he spoils how does he spoil you uh he gets me flowers we'll go to dinner we'll go

00:42:46.720 on trips and does he always pay for that yes and how do you spoil him um i give him head

00:42:53.260 that's how it should be that's exactly how it should be you agree you agree with of course i

00:43:00.120 agree i think a man should be a provider um just and the woman just provides sexual no not necessarily

00:43:06.520 sex um i feel like it depends on the woman but a man should be a provider a woman should bring morals

00:43:11.040 women should bring kindness genuine being a person happiness not necessarily um anal or head

00:43:18.720 but i feel like it the way that a woman thinks the way her mindset is i think the way that she

00:43:25.440 talks she dresses she acts i think that is enough for a man to be in a provider role and then on top

00:43:30.700 of that as well if you're not willing to pay a trip for me how are you going to pay for me to raise

00:43:33.660 your kids at home i don't get it word period how many um let me ask you a question though on that how

00:43:41.380 many uh like guys have you dated have i dated yeah how many boyfriends have you had how many

00:43:49.280 guys have you dated just the two yeah only two yeah so the current guy and well that too but like

00:43:57.200 i said before i'm still single two and then a potential a potential i mean how many potentials

00:44:02.480 i've gone on dates with three different dudes yes you've so you've only had three first dates

00:44:07.300 yeah wow hold on okay all right i'm 23 yeah yeah because i mean the pushback i was going to give

00:44:18.040 there is you're saying well men should do xyz because at some future point you will bear him

00:44:25.020 children but i think the reality is when it comes to dating nowadays like if you and perhaps you're an

00:44:31.500 outlier in this regard uh you know most women who've had like a string of relationships didn't

00:44:37.240 end up procreating with any of those men and it's plausible that those men provided for that

00:44:42.760 provided for that women woman excuse me but did not receive the benefit that you are suggesting

00:44:49.540 is a prerequisite prerequisite and requirement for a man's provision so you're saying well men should

00:44:56.000 provide because i will bear him children one day but you've dated men who you did not procreate with

00:45:01.400 so the man the man did not reap the supposed benefits of the provisioning which would with

00:45:06.540 which he provided well you also have to remember i'm i'm 23 years old so the man that i met at 18

00:45:11.260 there's it's a very rare chance that i'm going to end up procreating with him um versus the last one

00:45:16.880 yeah i was actually planning on we were planning on getting married we were talking about it even

00:45:21.140 had our marriage license filled out but i mean i'm he i don't think you're totally wrong like yes

00:45:26.980 there's something to be said for well if like this is going to be the mother of your children

00:45:30.280 and you know perhaps if she's going to be a stay-at-home uh wife whatever uh certainly there

00:45:36.540 could be an expectation of providing but it occurs to me that in most modern uh for most modern

00:45:42.400 relationships for most people they have strings of relationships before they ever get married or have

00:45:49.540 kids so it makes me question whether men ought to be providing if you're if your argument is

00:45:55.720 men should provide because one day i'll give them kids but how many people are in relationships that

00:46:00.260 don't ever result in uh children i mean of course there's many however that's not my that's not my

00:46:08.480 goal if i go on a date with somebody i as i said earlier if i go on a date with someone automatically

00:46:13.680 you're going to be the only person i'm talking to that's just how i work okay um emotionally i'm

00:46:17.620 not you're dating intentionally i get it intentionally i get it okay so valentine's day uh what were

00:46:22.800 we're talking about here we were talking about valentine's day uh i think we pretty much

00:46:27.180 got through everyone on that right anybody would you be upset anybody else would be upset i personally

00:46:33.260 hate flowers i think they're stupid they die i i don't like them yeah there you go chocolate but i

00:46:38.840 think it's like your valentine's day is going to look different based on like you need to know your

00:46:43.660 partner what do they want you know some people want quality time some people want flowers some people

00:46:49.100 want chocolate so if you're just like this guy who's out there like oh i gotta get chocolates

00:46:53.280 and flowers to check off the box and this big old teddy bear like lame why would i want a freaking

00:46:59.180 teddy bear i did have someone give that to me when i was in high school and i was like i'm throwing this

00:47:03.860 away so i think know the person it should be something specific to what they want and it shouldn't be this

00:47:11.560 requirement i think um just spending money on each other being more superficial can be you know pretty

00:47:19.380 prevalent in today's society and i think having quality time having you know i think it would be a

00:47:25.080 lot more romantic or sexy to have a vulnerable conversation filled with hey what are you looking

00:47:30.380 for in this life what are your goals i think that's a lot sexier of a thing to do on valentine's day

00:47:35.760 than to uh get somebody you know just you know aside what have you given me as some presents on

00:47:44.140 i don't even know i don't even know what you give me handwritten letters oh yes yes handwritten letters

00:47:51.340 i think i think but that's our love language you know so i think it really depends on what does that

00:47:57.860 person want and if you don't know what that person wants i would say you're not in a very close

00:48:02.300 relationship if you like you need to have those conversations to get that person probably choppy

00:48:09.220 drew donated 100 and 69 thank you for the extra 69 this my viewers are my boyfriends is only using

00:48:16.140 this podcast as a bad faith advertisement campaign we are here to watch a podcast not see ads you low iq

00:48:23.240 hack ryan real this slow-brained lady in uh probably choppy trw thank you man appreciate it

00:48:31.780 uh wait what are they saying we love you too what's that we love you too baby what are they

00:48:38.520 saying yeah what do they mean i think what what it's trying to say is um it may feel or be coming

00:48:45.520 off as a bit more of an advertisement it's not a real conversation this is what i'm here for i'm here

00:48:50.000 for i guess and it can and it absolutely can be an advertisement but it also can be a real

00:48:54.580 conversation where we're diving a little bit deeper and find out what's going on it's both yeah best of

00:48:58.980 both worlds but why do you have also any fans girls on is to like get the clicks and get them

00:49:06.120 titles of not really it's controversial it's very controversial truth be told truth be told i mean

00:49:12.420 i'll answer this um if recruitment for this show was more simplified and i mean madison can attest to

00:49:21.820 this it's it's uh talent recruitment's rather difficult uh if it was up to me i would not invite

00:49:27.360 no offense to you guys i would not invite people no i just wouldn't invite women who do only fans or

00:49:34.220 porn on the show i'd much rather invite quote unquote normal women they can be left-leaning they

00:49:39.420 can be feminist they can be progressive so we're not normal well there's a difference in so far as

00:49:47.280 engaged in sex work so what i'm trying to say is i would have no issue uh if we were capable of more

00:49:55.280 easily procuring guests to totally phase out women who do sex work but because the just and look it's

00:50:03.280 a criticism that the show has received that i've received the reality is and for those watching who

00:50:09.260 might be curious why why do you bring these uh you know why don't you just bring on normal women

00:50:14.000 because sex what is the no it's not no we would actually actually some of our most viral moments

00:50:20.600 were with women who were not involved in sex work uh in any case the reality is what does a uh

00:50:27.620 woman who's has a professional career who's like a nurse or a uh nuts no listen we do get some of

00:50:37.580 those women but typically we mostly get content creators and women who are involved uh doing

00:50:43.520 only fans wanting to be on the show and again if it was easy for us to get like liberal or for okay

00:50:50.740 there's a there's a this is a very nuanced topic for one we've had a multitude of big name conservative

00:50:56.000 guests on the show and we live in california that immediately turns off like the vast majority of

00:51:03.380 people who are left-leaning or liberal who aren't involved in content creation coming on the show

00:51:08.340 they see that most no offense to people who are liberal most people who are liberal are not prepared

00:51:13.100 to have their views uh debated or challenged so they're not willing the one where they're like

00:51:19.820 which one's liberal is that like democrats it's democrats so people who are left-leaning liberal

00:51:27.140 typically are not really willing to engage in conversations with people who disagree with them

00:51:31.840 they're not really open to debate because they tend to operate not not everybody but oftentimes

00:51:37.780 they will sort of have a pretty strong animosity towards people who are more conservative or even

00:51:44.280 moderate whereas i think and perhaps you you're conservative i think conservatives conservatives seem

00:51:50.380 much more willing to engage in conversation with people who are uh liberal conservatives seem to view

00:51:56.580 people who are liberal as uh you just you just see it as like an ideological difference whereas liberals

00:52:02.200 will view conservatives as like evil like they'll pass like a very strong moral judgment like you're evil

00:52:08.440 whereas conservatives it's like yeah i just we disagree you know ideologically so because we live in

00:52:15.940 you consider yourself well hold on let me uh let me finish my thing so because we live in california

00:52:20.140 which in santa barbara it's incredibly left-leaning liberal area it's very difficult for us to to get

00:52:25.900 guests on um and we frequent not on top of that we have a lot of people who flake last minute who cancel

00:52:33.620 we had i have to overbook so i'll book 20 people to come be on the show 10 half of them flake and

00:52:40.280 so it's it's all most of the time that's dedicated outside of the podcast is actually dedicated to

00:52:47.200 guest procurement talent recruitment it's incredibly difficult now i can imagine the behind the scenes

00:52:53.040 but if we just we're happy to we're happy to bring on feminists liberals who have normal jobs i would

00:53:01.480 actually prefer that no offense to you guys if i could phase it out i absolutely would well we make

00:53:07.060 our own hours so we're we're most available so i guess also probably a lot of people to make it

00:53:14.160 we don't have to like this podcast this podcast does have a reputation for being um a little

00:53:21.620 i don't know if confrontational is the right word but i'm not just gonna sit here and like i i challenge

00:53:27.420 people this isn't gonna be like let me just agree with everything you say and we're just gonna sing

00:53:33.400 kumbaya no i'm gonna challenge people i'm gonna have debates i'm gonna disagree with people and i

00:53:38.380 think a lot of people are not prepared to have those conversations um and then really it just comes

00:53:43.780 down to like what is the incentive for like a 23 year old 29 year old liberal progressive feminist woman

00:53:52.320 who's got a normal job to come on the show there's really no incentive they don't give a fuck they don't

00:53:57.100 care about instagram followers so um i would actually make the argument even if we had like a

00:54:04.640 perfectly non-political strictly dating related like super tame dating show that never ventured into

00:54:13.000 culture war stuff never ventured into political conversations was was totally like never devolved

00:54:19.280 into like heated exchanges or debates i still think it would be very difficult to procure like

00:54:25.300 quote unquote normal people to come talk about even pg related dating subjects because people just

00:54:32.720 don't want to be out there uh on the internet so anyways that was a bit of a ramble there but

00:54:37.840 i was gonna point out how you know the liberals don't want to talk um not to make it ultra political but

00:54:45.720 just you know this is going on youtube and that's in northern california and i have a list of words i was

00:54:52.200 given that's like 25 long before the show started of what i can and can't say and being afraid of free speech

00:54:57.420 you know and so i i say to all of you thank you for coming and this is really cool to be able to be here

00:55:02.140 and get to talk be open at these combos awesome yeah i agree but i mean just to answer the i address the

00:55:08.940 initial thing like if we had like okay if i had a flow of like people who could commit to being on the show

00:55:16.580 and i had like a bucket of like 10 of girls and 10 like liberal feminist leading leading women who

00:55:24.800 didn't do sex work i would always pull from the non-sex workers yeah but unfortunately the circumstances

00:55:31.640 are that this is a somewhat controversial show and and only fans is very controversial yeah yeah and

00:55:38.500 before this i mean you did ask us to like post on your social media and so obviously people who work

00:55:44.420 on social media usually have a few more followers than people who don't oh i mean so we don't truth

00:55:49.340 we don't really factor in people's followings at all at all i have like 100 she's got 100 followers

00:55:56.300 like we'll bring on like if you have as long as you're ready to come have a good conversation and if

00:56:01.420 you i actually really want to bring on if there's anybody watching who disagrees with me and this is

00:56:06.560 going to get into our next thing i'm very open to bringing on people who disagree with me

00:56:10.380 um but yeah you have i have like you don't do of you have a couple hundred followers maybe so

00:56:17.860 someone's follower account does not uh you know as far as the girls we're bringing on is really kind

00:56:24.320 of irrelevant so it's it's a added bonus if they have a big following and maybe they can push

00:56:29.320 a couple people to our live shows but i i don't really care all that much so i feel like

00:56:35.720 of girls you know with like the whole dating stuff too we probably have like a bit more stories you

00:56:41.240 know with like you know experiences with men and stuff so you know i feel like it's more fun bringing

00:56:46.520 us on because we exchange stories and stuff as well sure but one of the cons of that that does concern

00:56:52.420 me is uh there's definitely only fans women who essentially lie about these their so-called dating

00:57:00.340 experiences and stories just to create a story about them like there's some girl there's some

00:57:05.720 girls in australia who like i'm pretty sure will like intentionally lie and say oh yeah i there's

00:57:11.240 some girl recently who went viral who said oh i slept with like 20 dudes i don't know if any of you saw

00:57:15.620 that slept with like 20 guys in a 10-day vacation or something maybe she did maybe she did on tiktok

00:57:22.960 yeah maybe she did maybe she didn't but like it would be expedient as an only fans girl to say the

00:57:28.920 most outrageous shit so you get like some very small yeah yeah women like they do it so they lie

00:57:35.020 so i would much rather invite people on who are like actually going to be like honest and forthcoming

00:57:39.860 about their actual dating experiences instead of just coming on and like making something up that's

00:57:44.900 inauthentic and i'm not going to expose any like i'm not going to name names but we'll have like

00:57:50.380 only fans girls who've come on the show most of the time i think the of girls tend to be honest

00:57:55.480 however we've definitely had girls come on the show oh i'm single and then after the show they're

00:57:59.640 like oh i've been dating a guy for three years oh yeah and then it's just like totally like

00:58:05.240 anyways um not to linger on this for too long but um so uh where was i going with that yes oh right

00:58:14.860 we were going to talk about oh does anybody here disagree with me on anything um that's something

00:58:21.120 i'd like to start try to start some of the shows with if anybody disagrees with me maybe you saw a

00:58:26.540 clip and you're like i disagree with him on that i'd like to start there anybody you having a

00:58:31.680 girlfriend for three years and then or a long amount of time i heard this on a podcast of yours

00:58:36.140 one time you had a long-time girlfriend oh okay and um you only took her out like twice

00:58:40.920 from once wait and how old is she i think what's how old is she oh this is a long time ago i think i

00:58:47.880 was 22 and she was 19 i've been on the fresh and fit podcast and they've got fucking like 16 year

00:58:56.000 old girlfriends fucking wait i just had to make sure you're not one of them wait so what's the

00:59:00.880 question so i i think that's just the oh like i was dating her yeah and you only took her out like

00:59:06.200 twice that is you like and then on top of that on top of that you said that you didn't know he was

00:59:11.100 gonna marry her that you split it 50 50 with her when you took her out i think that is so insane to

00:59:16.680 me that concept i i don't understand how it was great it was a great relationship he knew he wasn't

00:59:20.600 gonna appropriate it was great for me she wasn't gonna have your babies that's why that was a

00:59:25.920 complicated uh it was a complicated relationship it was uh it was a long-term relationship that i had

00:59:32.220 that was um we were a bit younger so it was kind of like very started out fairly casual and uh

00:59:39.840 i won't get into too many details but i basically like for a pretty long period of the relationship

00:59:45.100 didn't take her seriously because of some indiscretions that she had at the start so i

00:59:49.200 kind of like um i did not want to take her seriously for a long-term relationship okay it was a very

00:59:57.400 complicated relationship i'm fairly confident she had borderline personality disorder um so there

01:00:04.060 was a lot of uh a lot of issues in that relationship most of my other relationships uh were a lot more

01:00:11.340 uh smooth sailing i guess you could say wait did you pay for the dates but so huh did you pay for the

01:00:16.220 dates you went on the smooth sailing with her no the other ones since then do you pay for the first

01:00:20.500 date do you pay for the second for the most part yeah okay yeah for the most part are you in a

01:00:24.100 relationship back my disagreement are you in a relationship i cannot disclose my i i have to

01:00:29.540 i have some uh some uh ops let's say so i try to i'm gonna keep that on wraps i just i just want to

01:00:37.840 know i'm getting death threats i don't know if you know about whatever podcast dude and you're making

01:00:42.580 us close i got like people trying to dox and like death threats and so i i try to keep things a little

01:00:48.260 a little vague but um yeah so no i just wanted to know if i could hit or not

01:00:52.640 uh well oh you're you're wondering if you could hit yes as in have sexual intercourse yeah well you're

01:01:00.600 an attractive woman however i have to uh i have to politely turn you down on that because there's

01:01:05.080 videos of you on the internet having sexual intercourse with other men which for me is a

01:01:09.940 a big no now a deal breaker have you watched any of them uh no i think you know we do we look at

01:01:16.940 people's twitters before yes and i had the mispleasure of having to look at your twitter

01:01:21.300 absolutely degenerate but um i did look at your twitter and there were some well you certainly

01:01:29.000 have sexual intercourse with other men thank me for the good one but um yeah i i appreciate the uh

01:01:37.980 the invitation but i i must graciously i you know i can't do it you know it's uh the the just by

01:01:46.100 just by virtue of you having had sex with another man on camera for me

01:01:50.860 it's a deal breaker you're cute though in that kind of like weird cute way i i'm cute in that

01:01:57.180 kind of like weird you're cute or whatever kind of play you know thank you i appreciate it i have a

01:02:04.340 no cushion you

01:02:05.100 we got this is another like this is another lila situation yeah i mean when it comes to like would

01:02:16.680 i date a girl who does only fans i've i've had different answers on this like previously i said

01:02:22.020 so long as she never did any content with a man that used to be but like it's still suboptimal yeah

01:02:29.260 i'm like very much i've never dated a woman who's done only fans even like tame tame only fans yeah

01:02:37.340 is it possible like it's very suboptimal i it's i mean i i have a strong preference for dating women

01:02:46.600 who don't but like could there be a woman who's so amazing but she she did solo content maybe are you

01:02:55.000 are you one of them people who's like i want my girl to be a little virgin

01:02:59.620 i prefer a woman with a low body count and if that means she's a virgin what's a low body count for in

01:03:06.320 your eyes i mean it depends on the age but i mean the the lower the better so i mean a virgin would be

01:03:14.160 the most optimum uh yeah but does she have to be a virgin no but would that be like the ultimate

01:03:20.380 uh in terms of the body count discussion less than 10 would it be a low i'd say that's a fairly good

01:03:28.000 benchmark less than 10 is pretty good less than five is stellar so it just it just gets better than

01:03:33.120 yeah the lower you got in the same way it's like with with the amount of money a guy makes the more

01:03:38.340 commas the better you know you'd like you know one would be well one i mean perhaps the zeros

01:03:46.760 but um wait what do you mean if they're what yeah what age what age are you like well we're

01:03:56.120 talking about you could be 35 and be a virgin no i mean is it i mean as in like what age would you

01:04:02.280 go like is your optimal age oh he's just trying to get his time age is just a number i mean an adult

01:04:10.660 woman but uh generally i'd generally i would say i date people i'm 34 i typically typically have

01:04:17.420 dated people around my age um but i mean i'd date someone who's 21 i would have no problem with that

01:04:23.440 so yeah i mean you got a chance

01:04:28.960 sorry what's up oh yeah guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub

01:04:36.500 if you have one uh thank you guys for all the primes also go to our youtube channel nick if you

01:04:42.680 can pull that up uh guys go to our clips channel whatever second on youtube mod spam that in the

01:04:47.660 uh chat we're gonna get that i feel like i'm being interrogated here you're getting a bit sweaty

01:04:53.640 you're getting a bit nervous the uh turntables the turntables ask people to disagree with

01:04:58.600 uh so yeah low the lower the body count the better uh preferably no of but again conceivably

01:05:08.400 if this woman is like amazing and that's kind of sweet but truth be told again like it would be

01:05:15.260 the bar is here but again if i have other women to choose from i would almost overwhelmingly pick a

01:05:22.100 woman who has not done oh definitely why is she looking at me that way okay okay i just want to

01:05:32.040 fuck you brian i think uh hold on i gotta do something say that wait say that again i just

01:05:40.560 want to fuck you i'm gonna let andrew tate here respond for me is he gonna show something

01:05:46.220 i could film it manny go ahead i was just gonna say um is this sexual harassment am i being sexual

01:05:56.580 i'm sorry if you feel uncomfortable no it's all good i can i'm a good sport um one topic is you know

01:06:03.100 ladies are you happy with the state of where men are at in general right now just the average man on

01:06:08.140 the street if we walk down you know this street down here are we happy with where men are at in

01:06:12.600 society or we think they need to be more manly less manly sleeping with less sleeping with more

01:06:18.320 more manly yeah i think they need to be more manly like so when people say like toxic masculinity i

01:06:24.540 honestly feel like that's like to water down the masculine energy men have and make them more feminine

01:06:30.540 like for that timothy shamala guy or like terry you know stuff like that like i could never be

01:06:41.100 with a guy like that like i want a guy who can protect me and you know just provide and so and

01:06:47.280 then like the toxic masculinity like i feel like they need our feminine energy what's toxic masculinity

01:06:52.640 it's made up it's made up to water them down to be feminine like i do not believe in that i think

01:06:58.240 men need to be more manly oh you they don't mean you want the talks toxic yes we love it we love it

01:07:04.940 yes there we go and then i was gonna say brian are you happy on the reverse with where women are at

01:07:10.340 right now uh i mean there's great women out there but i i think there's a trend in both men and women

01:07:18.580 men are lacking in masculinity women are lacking in femininity i think there's a lot of degeneracy and

01:07:26.600 and uh you know i think you know you have men addicted to porn uh i think then that's something

01:07:34.260 that you guys are on a crusade against and then uh or helping men with at least and uh you know women

01:07:40.220 are uh or and also men are you know very i used to play video games but i i think a lot of men are

01:07:47.020 suffering additionally from video game addiction maybe that's a your next uh who knows thing well you

01:07:53.880 know i was gonna say because we all have this moral relativism i can never say that word correctly

01:07:59.300 but just you have an idea what you think is right you have an idea you have an idea you have an idea

01:08:03.220 and it's interesting you know as we were preparing for this just going back to what do we believe you

01:08:08.540 know where where is our morals coming from you know we all have this natural law in our heart of

01:08:13.120 we know what's right we know what's wrong and when we look back you know we said we got to go to

01:08:17.980 the good book we open up the bible and we're looking at things like don't have premarital sex uh don't be

01:08:22.920 committing adultery don't be sexually immoral threesomes you name it and we looked at why is

01:08:29.760 this the case you know why is it we shouldn't be having premarital sex and it was interesting just

01:08:35.440 writing down why would god say something like that and we looked at don't want to get pregnant before

01:08:40.240 don't want to have an std before don't want to bring shame to the family don't want to bring

01:08:44.800 something hard into the relationship and also just especially and this is my cry to you guys because i

01:08:50.200 care about you guys of the whole idea of you know you're working with these boyfriends but

01:08:55.180 who knows who they are because we don't know the names we don't have ip addresses and if there's

01:08:59.280 somebody in their basement and they're saying hey i can lock her up and keep her down there and it's

01:09:02.940 just it it frightens me and and i care about you guys and so i'm glad we're just getting to be here

01:09:08.520 i get to say something like that but just coming back to where do we all draw our moral standards

01:09:13.200 from because brian saying 10 women is fine maybe one maybe only fans maybe not only fans and some

01:09:18.740 people are saying virgin and where are we drawing these things from and then bigger than that is it

01:09:23.440 working for us in society or maybe should we start looking back to the good book instead i think the

01:09:28.580 bible's made up um and i think like the 10 commandments honestly was just something to kind of

01:09:33.300 like scare us into being good into like you know but i also feel like the bible and the 10 commandments

01:09:39.240 it's kind of like a coping mechanism for some people to just like you know live day to day and

01:09:43.720 be good do that you'll get to heaven when you die you know it's kind of just like uh kind of like

01:09:49.600 some assurance you know when they die you know they feel comfortable um but honestly like you know when

01:09:54.860 you say like premarital sex i don't agree with that because it's like okay you marry somebody and what

01:09:59.440 if you guys aren't compatible sexually so it's like and then you have to go through a whole divorce and all

01:10:05.300 that well a couple things first when beck and i first got married you know it took time you know

01:10:10.940 it took time and that's one of the beautiful things about marriages i ain't going nowhere you

01:10:14.100 ain't going nowhere we are iron sharpening iron we are improving each other and that's a really

01:10:18.160 really cool thing there's this interesting stat of um women have a lot more orgasms and sexual

01:10:26.880 satisfaction when they're actually married there was this crazy stat we read where it was um only 11

01:10:32.780 percent of women will have an orgasm the first time they hook up with someone now before i met

01:10:38.360 manny i i definitely struggled in college i i slept around for a time and yeah i never had an orgasm with

01:10:45.540 someone you know this is so many people don't want to talk about it's just like oh even in porn like

01:10:49.720 um there's another stat where only 18 percent of porn scenes show women having orgasms yeah the ones

01:10:57.200 i've done they make them so but when we talk about like oh porn and it's female empowerment but it's

01:11:04.740 just like it's not even showcasing women as important enough to get that enjoyment out of

01:11:11.280 having sex you know um yeah it's a big part sometimes like obviously you can get pleasure from not coming

01:11:19.420 um but and also sometimes it's just like it's a job at the end of the day like it's getting the job

01:11:25.140 done like you know we're on set for like a long day you're not going to be like sat there for 20

01:11:32.280 minutes i don't know trying to make yourself i want to come back to the bible thing for just a second

01:11:37.080 just because that was one thing of coming on and being in front of millions of people potentially

01:11:40.720 like what do you believe and looking back at it it was very interesting thing um one of them was

01:11:45.740 we have to have objective truth right so you can't say my truth is the truth and your truth the truth

01:11:50.580 and your truth the truth because how do you know that to be true so we have to have some truth

01:11:54.380 uh one of the things that atheists have uh said is that space time and matter bam the big bang so if

01:12:00.140 there was no space time and matter before something had to be before so some god some something had to

01:12:04.160 be there before and then we look at could a miracle happen well if god could create the world then he

01:12:08.520 can make miracles and then you look at jewish writers who were talking to jesus and jesus saying

01:12:13.900 i'm the son of god it would be blasphemous for them to make this up just the whole idea of

01:12:18.180 hey this guy he died on a cross took our sins rose from the dead performed all these miracles

01:12:22.600 it wouldn't make any sense for them to make him up and i think one of the biggest things for my faith

01:12:26.640 was just when jesus uh ascended to heaven he said make disciples of all nations and these guys went

01:12:32.700 all over the world and they all died crucifixion eaten stabbed crucified upside down and it's like

01:12:38.860 why would they have done that if they didn't believe now i have my personal faith and i have

01:12:43.280 evidence of yeah i can back that up and i can look into these things and archaeologically and

01:12:48.100 historically we can look into it but going back to the um orgasm because i'm going to be the big

01:12:53.200 expert on that topic uh just going back quickly um you know it's interesting in porn uh if you don't

01:12:59.040 have a 14 inch penis and you're someone like me with only a 12 inch you know you're considered

01:13:02.800 um i wish but well anyway but the whole idea is you know you are shamed and you're never going to be

01:13:09.820 able to please a woman and the fact that what is it uh 75 percent of women can't even have an orgasm

01:13:14.760 about 70 percent can't experience an orgasm from penis and vagina sex and it's interesting because

01:13:21.440 if we just want to have orgasms if we just want to do that well we can all jerk off to porn we can

01:13:25.760 all grab the vibrator we can be by ourselves and we don't need to be by anyone and that's you know

01:13:30.380 coming back to the original point of one of the things with men in this world 63 percent of men are

01:13:34.200 single by choice under 30 going i got my girlfriend right here i got my everything right here i got my

01:13:39.620 gambling i got my weed i got my alcohol why do i need to go out and procreate and it's crazy because

01:13:43.860 we got a 1.6 percent birth rate right now i'm doing my job got our third on the way right now

01:13:49.100 and so we're trying to keep the earth populated but it legitimately is a scary thing of this world

01:13:54.640 could go extinct so that's why when we look at the married men watching porn we're going you got to

01:13:59.420 handle these problems we can't be having more divorces we can't have more single men saying i

01:14:03.300 want to stay single i want to stay with you is you know i want you guys to make money and be able

01:14:06.940 to survive and do all those things i don't i don't have a problem with that but i think the bigger

01:14:10.440 thing is looking at it in a much much bigger light and that was beck and i we just said if this could

01:14:14.560 save one marriage if it could prevent one sa from happening if it could prevent one self-deletion

01:14:18.900 from happening then it'd all be worth it so big rant big ramble big all that stuff but coming back to a

01:14:24.400 way way bigger point of just that whole concept of if it could save one life if it could save one

01:14:29.360 marriage if it could prevent one sa from happening i mean literally thinking of that girl thinking of

01:14:34.560 that boy you know because people go down these rabbit holes and they're watching porn and they're

01:14:40.060 turned on and then all of a sudden they see something scary and these neurons that are firing

01:14:43.820 together now wiring together and they see a woman get hit and they're like why do i have a boner

01:14:47.280 right now after watching that woman get slapped and there's a crazy stat 20.7 percent of straight men

01:14:53.460 have viewed gay porn in the last six months and so you look at that and i talk to these men all the

01:14:58.280 time and they're like i watch this i watch this i'm like i don't even know what this stuff is and

01:15:01.560 they're like it's like andy in the office like am i gay and i'm like good no your brain is then

01:15:06.640 there's a big reason for that though so um i also went to school for psychology and one of the things

01:15:11.540 that we studied was porn addiction or corn addiction and things like that and so people who become

01:15:17.840 addicted to corn uh vanilla sex then becomes boring to them right so they go and they go deeper and

01:15:22.720 deeper and deeper to a point where well now the only way that i can view sex is on my phone and it's

01:15:27.220 bdsm things like that and now they go to their wife and they're like hey um i i'm not performing

01:15:33.720 correctly or like what's going on it it becomes such a deeper problem yeah i remember you were saying

01:15:39.040 that earlier just it's such a pervasive idea that like it's the partner's fault like like i some way

01:15:46.140 wasn't um sexually pleasing enough for manny that he had to go to this other source um but i wasn't

01:15:54.000 designed for that you know like i'm not a gangbang i'm not gonna meet i'm not gonna meet that need

01:15:59.040 but like people need new and novel like when someone starts out what do they do like most

01:16:04.540 the average age that someone starts watching porn now is eight years old and you know at first it's

01:16:09.940 hey i'm like i'm looking at a playboy photo or i'm looking at a victoria's secret magazine oh i'm

01:16:14.280 sneaking it from my parents great for a little bit that's exciting then it's not then you need a lot

01:16:19.880 more photos then you need videos then you need a lot wilder crazier videos and to the point where

01:16:25.200 it's just like of course this is causing sexual dysfunction for people in their relationships

01:16:30.440 because it's meeting a need it's not a need meeting a desire that one person alone cannot

01:16:37.920 ever satisfied because this is how we're designed to be one one one-on-one and when you're able to just

01:16:45.880 control it it's yeah it's very different experiences wait so to go back

01:16:50.300 madison can you grab that nick just keep it off that angle is she okay yeah she's good um wait so

01:16:59.860 okay going back to the disagreement stuff if anybody uh disagrees with anything that they've heard from

01:17:07.140 the podcast maybe you've seen clips you had one thing anybody else want to open it up where you at

01:17:12.900 the marriage topic yeah oh gosh uh well i mean uh from a religious perspective marriage makes

01:17:20.140 so join us

01:17:20.900 idealistically my marriage is cool i guess uh from a religious perspective i think it's great but

01:17:38.080 there's just certain realities uh when it comes to marriage because you know at any at any point in

01:17:46.020 your relationship let's say let's say both people are religious uh at any point in the marriage for

01:17:52.480 example as a man the the risks the point of view from a man your wife could just randomly choose

01:17:59.680 she reserves the right at any point to sorry the the thing is becoming undone again um she reserve

01:18:09.040 your wife reserves the right at any point to become a feminist and go to the state for recourse in her

01:18:16.440 divorce where she can get alimony and uh sign a prenup you know prenups are regularly my understanding i

01:18:23.700 mean i'm gonna have some family and divorce lawyers on the show eventually but my understanding with

01:18:27.640 prenups is it applies for it can apply for everything earned prior to the marriage i believe

01:18:34.060 but once you're married it's becomes collective property so whatever you make during the course of

01:18:40.040 the marriage could be subject to you know uh you know community property she gets 50 of whatever it

01:18:46.640 was that you made during that then there's alimony etc and then frequently uh prenups frequently get

01:18:52.420 challenged um recently here in santa barbara we had oh who's that actor nick could you google the

01:18:59.660 actor famous actor his name is evading me right now it was a dispute here in santa barbara because

01:19:06.240 they were married kevin costner kevin costner thank you um very wealthy actor and they had a

01:19:12.200 prenuptial agreement and it was a very favorable to the wife the agreement she would get a certain

01:19:18.940 amount of money but there was a clause in the prenup that says you will not if you challenge

01:19:23.760 the prenup in court you will not receive certain benefits that would have otherwise been awarded to

01:19:29.980 you under the prenup she went ahead and challenged the prenup anyways despite the fact that the prenups

01:19:34.940 had something like i'll give you i don't know the exact numbers but she would get uh an immediate upon

01:19:40.540 divorce an immediate 300k a month well she got 200k in what child support 200 she would get an

01:19:49.600 immediate 200 000 payment i thought it was more that doesn't seem monthly i don't know i don't know

01:19:56.060 in any case there's she would get an immediate very large sum and she'd get some child support

01:20:00.060 and alimony she challenged it anyways then you're talking about lawyer's fees i think the husband might

01:20:04.680 have to pay the anyways um can i jump in on what you're saying though because i think it's really

01:20:10.220 interesting can high value men even get married like women are like i want high value man i want

01:20:15.520 the high value and the 12 inch penis and things like that all right you know we were joking earlier

01:20:19.860 i don't know if you're here or not but anyway um the whole idea though of like can they even get

01:20:26.060 married because one of the beautiful things with beck and i is when we met we were literally sleeping on

01:20:30.440 a dead man's bed and we didn't kill the guy but what happened was our family ran assisted living

01:20:34.680 homes and my dad's like i got a bed for you and it's like great and then i'm like years later i'm

01:20:38.900 like where did we get that bed from he's like well somebody passed you know we had an open bed i'm like

01:20:43.120 what so we're literally sleeping on a dead man bed when we first get married but then we got to grow

01:20:47.800 with each other and that's a beautiful thing and so sometimes when women say well i'll just marry

01:20:51.620 the high value man when i'm 35 and he's 45 well why does he need you um why does he want you

01:20:57.360 what are you bringing to the table how are you iron sharpening iron so that's why i feel like

01:21:01.480 it's important for a woman to still work and like if i got married i would sign the prenup so my

01:21:05.960 husband you know wouldn't have that lingering thought in his head like okay well what if she

01:21:10.240 doesn't want to be with me but she doesn't have anything so she's not going to say anything and

01:21:14.040 just you know use me so i feel like it's important for a woman to still have her own you know motion

01:21:19.500 going on her own stream of income and the man has his own thing going on too because if you don't want

01:21:24.100 to be with him you can leave and you won't feel stuck and trapped and then hate your life like

01:21:28.840 you know i i feel like i could never like just be taken care of and not do anything like i'd have to

01:21:34.640 have some kind of business going on well he's not looking for money from you he's obviously if he's

01:21:39.660 high value making all this money driving the lambos um so in that regard he's looking for something

01:21:45.220 that maybe he didn't have those first 20 years when he's building his empire so he's looking for

01:21:48.720 someone to help build that family so then it's kind of what value are you bringing to the table at

01:21:53.340 that point he doesn't need the 100 grand 200 grand even a million if he's making 10 let's say i

01:21:57.520 don't know he's kevin constant he's on the market now money though i feel like if you're gonna get

01:22:01.740 married you shouldn't have to question your partner like oh i'm gonna get a prenup like that wouldn't

01:22:08.080 even cross my mind you're planning for it forever no no if you're right a prenup yes that's how i feel

01:22:14.640 it's like when this fails yes this is what we're gonna do i honestly i don't think so we had no money

01:22:20.260 i know when i get married i'm also going to sign a prenup um not necessarily because i'm wanting

01:22:25.640 something to fail i don't think that my marriage is going to fail i'm religious i wouldn't get married

01:22:29.260 to you if i thought i was going to get failed in the first place however there are things like

01:22:33.840 affairs where if or if something were to occur where i can get an annulment through my own church

01:22:39.260 then yeah i would go go ahead and get a divorce or something but when you're married you're you're

01:22:44.160 supposed to stay with them through thick i'm sorry i'm not going to stay with a cheater though

01:22:47.860 you know what i'm saying forgiveness no i'm not going to stay with a cheater or something that

01:22:51.020 if god is out of your life especially if god leaves our relationship i do not want to be with

01:22:55.240 i do want to i do want to ask those who are perhaps more pro-marriage and again look from a religious

01:23:00.240 perspective i don't object to it and also i just want to make something clear i think you can object

01:23:05.160 to the institution of marriage but also be in favor of a long-term committed monogamous like you could

01:23:12.940 raise children have a nuclear family without involving the government without getting married

01:23:18.320 and so i guess my it's a two-part question can you present to me those of you who perhaps are more in

01:23:25.620 favor of marriage uh compelling and convincing arguments why i or other men should get married

01:23:32.220 and assuming that these men are otherwise open to having a nuclear family say they're open to having a

01:23:39.160 not just open but desirous of having a monogamous long-term life partner um as a yeah i think when

01:23:48.080 we have these iphones that we can look at enough a lot say that word but when you have an iphone you

01:23:52.760 can look at corn all day shouldn't we all just be walking around like oh my goodness i can see any

01:23:58.040 naked person at any time at anything and people are depressed people are walking around not feeling

01:24:02.860 good suicide rate self-deletion rates are high sorry it was on the list um and so we have to look at

01:24:08.420 that why does somebody want to get married love connection and intimacy and it's beautiful because

01:24:12.680 it's a great environment for me to raise my children in i get to have children um gosh when you have

01:24:18.760 those kids and just getting to it's something that once you do you know you get that full experience but

01:24:23.200 you know it's a better environment for them um it is better for me to be married because it's way

01:24:28.640 harder to step out on this relationship because we are absolutely committed to each other till death

01:24:33.600 but let me okay so but again all i i think you mentioned love you can have monogamy you can have

01:24:41.280 all these things outside of marriage and you you mentioned well it's great for the kids but but

01:24:46.160 you're worried about they're gonna walk on you well it got a little hard the sex isn't as good i saw it

01:24:51.820 on onlyfans right but so but we we have a massive divorce industry so this idea that marriage forever

01:24:58.460 keeps people in relationships is fallacious because clearly people are getting divorced even

01:25:03.940 deeply religious people so let me bring up an interesting topic for you then so uh with arranged

01:25:09.360 marriages they have a four to six percent roughly divorce rate and we got 40 to 50 percent divorce

01:25:14.940 rate and some people say i worship the god of science lowercase g and they say if it's in if it's

01:25:19.880 in a scientific thing then i'm going to worship it and i i care about it but then when you come to

01:25:23.640 something like this then they go uh well you know i feel like i can choose my and emotions just ride

01:25:28.640 over but what percentage of marriages do you think will in 2024 are are uh coming from arranged uh that

01:25:38.280 are arranged i think it's well i think one of the big things is they don't know each other they're

01:25:42.580 working on that relationship they're saying we're not going anywhere we're going to be in this thing for

01:25:46.740 the long haul versus just yeah we'll try it if it doesn't work we'll get the divorce and we got

01:25:50.820 you know 97 percent of alimony payments are made by men to women so if i am the feminist then i can

01:25:55.980 jump out but he was saying how many how many marriages are arranged probably very few i assume

01:26:04.140 it's very few i feel like dwight i feel like a billion people in india would uh say oh well sure

01:26:09.700 but i i'm i'm i'm looking more at it from the like the u.s perspective or even the western perspective

01:26:15.160 where i think you know marriage is someone something that's typically more voluntarily entered into as

01:26:20.300 opposed to uh arranged now we can certainly have a conversation of should we bring back

01:26:25.040 should we have arranged marriages perhaps it works uh and but i i think that that's unlikely to be

01:26:31.980 a realistic implementation anytime in the near future anyways um so look again my my concern is is just

01:26:40.700 i just don't see a compelling argument for it when i can have i can have the family i could be

01:26:48.360 monogamous without having the state involved in my uh it's so much more commitment and also it's what

01:26:56.440 it's so much more commitment is it yeah my well my parents always taught me that like once you're in

01:27:01.400 a marriage you're so basically but but you you're you're removing agency from the individual it's

01:27:07.240 basically there's there's the state's gun pointed at you in one way or another saying well if you divorce

01:27:14.060 if you guys get divorced then there will be financial ruin and i i think that's a terrible

01:27:19.860 reason to stay in a relationship well there will be financial repercussions if you don't how about

01:27:24.960 just build a really solid relationship with somebody well the whole point of getting married in the first

01:27:29.880 place is that you're going to die with that person so it's not really this it shouldn't be the state

01:27:33.740 pointing a gun at you being like okay one day you guys are when you guys decide to get divorced we're

01:27:38.500 going to come in there and jack everything no that's not if if if you can even picture not being

01:27:42.800 with your life at spending your life with somebody at any point in your life don't be with them the

01:27:47.840 whole point of getting married in the first place is to say i don't care about your flaws i don't care

01:27:52.120 what you do anything like what happens i'm there yeah i'm there you could have one motorsports

01:27:58.960 you could have one hundred dollars thank you good one appreciate it watched a lot of marriages fail

01:28:03.220 over the years you are either in it to win it or you stand ready to pull the ripcord and bail

01:28:08.680 women sue for divorce eighty percent of the time men are not the problem ladies because nobody's

01:28:15.100 viewing marriage as people used to view it i mean if you think of it now nowadays when did the divorce

01:28:21.580 rate spike it was back in the 70s what was in the 60s what was in the 50s what was in the 30s the 40s

01:28:26.920 the 20s well people were getting feminism and the birth control pill exactly no exactly i'm i'm not

01:28:32.900 disagreeing whatsoever i honestly do believe women can kind of be the problem i think it's just the

01:28:39.400 view of marriage it's like it's been destroyed as like oh the ball and chain exactly yeah it's no

01:28:46.540 longer perception so brian like you it's like you don't have faith that having a marriage is can be

01:28:53.400 this absolutely beautiful thing to be committed to someone i feel like you can have that without

01:28:59.080 the marriage yeah that's kind of my position is like i'm not like this this guy who just wants to

01:29:04.780 sleep with a bunch of women throughout all my years and never have long-term relationship or never have

01:29:10.280 children like i can certainly absolutely see myself having a partner and us having kids and it being

01:29:17.000 monogamous and faithful and us staying together for the rest of our lives i'm just i'm not sold

01:29:23.960 on the marriage component of it because it's like well what if it doesn't work you know you know what

01:29:30.900 i mean you know what i mean everything's connected and your taxes everything's connected i think you

01:29:36.100 know in your gut and like you should just always stick by that person and work together any problems

01:29:40.600 you okay but so what what you know when you get married what what are the vows that you have to say

01:29:45.280 till death do us part in sickness and in health and good and what is it and good and bad yeah you

01:29:51.100 know those words have to mean something but clearly those words mean nothing to like a vast swaths of

01:29:57.900 people who ultimately end up getting divorced despite them saying that in front of their friends

01:30:03.840 and family i think there's a couple problems first off on the social level there's no there's no longer

01:30:08.540 really a stigma to getting divorced so like on the societal and certainly i don't think we're gonna do

01:30:13.380 anything we're not gonna do anything to like legis i don't think there's gonna be any legislation

01:30:19.840 really to like revamp anything and so we've that's an error i think and then we've we have no social

01:30:27.040 pressure there's no social stigma to being divorced your community doesn't give a fuck your family

01:30:31.880 doesn't care your friends don't care you're not gonna face a stigma if you're a catholic for example

01:30:36.840 there's a there's still i think to some degree stigma there like within your subculture but even then

01:30:42.140 people are getting divorced so there's no laws that are kind of incentivizing people to stay

01:30:47.520 together there's you know we have no fault divorce okay and then there's no social stigma so

01:30:54.220 it's because it's been normalized so well and also the moment if the man's the breadwinner in the

01:31:02.260 relationship this is why this is sort of a gendered issue because why men are hesitant

01:31:06.120 to get married we'll let this one come in from grid one motorsports thank you lesbian relationships

01:31:11.500 fail an order of magnitude more than gay marriages okay ladies you are the problem due to feminism

01:31:17.740 well look at that feminism has failed you the patriarchy stands ready to restore you to glory

01:31:23.240 let's go the patriarchy by the way grid one motorsports is kind of like the head of the

01:31:31.960 patriarchy he is like the head honcho of the patriarchy so just letting you guys know but

01:31:37.740 um i'm trying to remember what i was saying uh some uh no societal stigma we're not gonna no fault

01:31:44.020 divorce i for shit where was i totally forgot one of the reasons why to get married um when i got

01:31:51.000 married to becca it's like oh my goodness i gotta start making some money here and magically once we

01:31:54.800 get married it's like i need to start making more money and then she says i'm pregnant and i'm like

01:31:58.060 we can't afford a kid and magically i find a way to make fifty thousand dollars more that year and

01:32:02.840 it's literally comes down to what dwight said in the office use your surge of fear and adrenaline

01:32:07.040 to sharpen your decision making skills and when you get that uh being told we're pregnant we're

01:32:12.660 having a baby she's having a baby um yeah you better believe it makes you more money so people who

01:32:17.340 are married make more money not that you need to make more money brian you're just fine but that

01:32:21.840 whole concept and then just when i wear this ring to the gym this is like woman repellent and just

01:32:27.100 keeps me is it though no i've actually heard i've heard some like i don't know if it was a study

01:32:34.340 or like just anecdotes from married my married men it's a challenge they'll like get hit on by women

01:32:40.180 and you'll i've also heard from men like when they're single chicks just be ignoring them but

01:32:45.180 all of a sudden they get a girlfriend it's like you want what you can't just get like hit on and so

01:32:50.440 i think certainly good women are probably going to be like see the ring and be like okay

01:32:57.040 off limits but i think some girls are crazy i have heard from some married men that they're like

01:33:01.900 yo girls are see the ring they're hitting on me and shit i don't know girls see a ring and they

01:33:05.940 get fucking wet honestly i don't know but it could be i could see it's you know all right good times

01:33:11.320 good times she's like don't worry about me take it off it comes back down i'm not worried about him

01:33:17.160 so i know that's how it should be it comes back down to that person one of the big things we teach

01:33:22.100 is that when you go to porn you're trying to heal a pain that's going on inside whether that was

01:33:28.440 being made fun of bullied some trauma and after a while your brain stress reactivity systems they

01:33:34.980 break down and anytime you're hungry angry lonely tired bored stressed anything you just go to

01:33:38.620 this vice and coming back to that when i was overcoming porn it was the process of going from being a

01:33:45.100 boy who runs away from his problems and runs to porn and then becoming a man who stands up to his

01:33:50.020 problems says i'm going to face this thing head on so a woman hits on me in the gym and i say be gone

01:33:54.540 you know it's be you know hello hello but be gone you know she doesn't see that then i'm walking the

01:33:59.300 other way and just in all things in life you know one of the big things our thing is called team

01:34:04.420 vulnerable because you need a team of people around you but talking to them and saying what's really

01:34:08.340 going on when i was early on in the process if i got horny it's like it's there's no reason for

01:34:13.200 me to be horny what's really going on is it a trauma i haven't dealt with is it halt bs hunger

01:34:17.260 angry lonely tired bored stressed but boys becoming men that's really the process it has nothing to do

01:34:22.240 with porn it has nothing to do with only fans it's about standing up having that moment of strength

01:34:26.200 and vulnerability and handling what's going on inside did you get to the bottom of why you're

01:34:31.220 hold on hold on hold on let's stay on topic um who here wants to get married

01:34:36.780 no no okay all right i mean just to wrap up a little bit on on the marriage topic i

01:34:46.460 from my perspective right as a businessman i don't sign contracts that don't benefit

01:34:53.320 you never sign a contract with someone who is rewarded for breaking it marriage is a contract

01:35:00.880 contract and no sane informed man ought to sign that contract it's a terrible like if you were

01:35:10.420 to look at it from a hold on doc vener billy is donated one hundred dollars brixton here is what

01:35:17.020 you do you want people that disagree with you bring four couples to a show convince you about marriage

01:35:23.900 and put you in a place include me and becca you will be a groom by end of show thank you doc

01:35:30.780 venerable look again i'm in favor i'm not like trying to like promote uh you know just

01:35:37.140 casual sex i'm not saying that i think the nuclear family is fantastic for the individual fantastic for

01:35:44.800 the family and it's the most optimum for society uh and i think you can have the nuclear family without

01:35:50.860 marriage um there's just certain realities thank you thank you donated one hundred dollars

01:35:58.720 married 18 years to a woman 11 years my junior retired at 45 never been divorced no kids out of

01:36:06.660 wedlock not only am i the dog's bollocks i am the patriarchy oh he is he is the patriarchy hey grid

01:36:13.460 one thank you man appreciate it never been divorced there you go grid one he's living the dream grid one

01:36:19.640 is living the dream when it comes to prenuptial agreements though i think it's not going to save

01:36:24.320 you if the woman is motivated enough um she could i mean she could even lie she could say there was

01:36:29.120 coercion or fraudulent inducement the other problem why do you think it's a bad deal for you

01:36:34.100 why do i marriage yeah well okay so you have three things or well there's a couple things

01:36:39.900 there's there's a whole bunch community so when you're married and i'm not an expert in this topic

01:36:47.300 but i'm gonna i've consulted with divorce attorneys and i've done my own research so once you get married

01:36:52.440 you have community property so once the marriage starts everything that you like from that point moving

01:36:57.900 forward that's shared okay yeah so in the event of a divorce uh if you're a man and you're making

01:37:05.300 yeah but what if the girl's making more then she may very well be hesitant to enter into marriage

01:37:13.560 herself or she may want to have a prenuptial agreement um there is some bias in the court system

01:37:20.260 against men but women who are high earners uh absolutely have perhaps a reason to pause

01:37:27.360 on uh marriage with someone who earns less than them because there is a chance that

01:37:32.900 half the shit is going to them uh so there's that there's also just the financial cost of a divorce

01:37:41.360 now i'm not a hundred percent certain if it's the case in the divorce if the for example if you're the

01:37:47.040 breadwinner and your woman uh excuse me if your wife is your woman is uh she's like uh didn't really

01:37:55.540 participate economically or financially or your husband sure can be a breadwinner sure sure but

01:38:01.960 i'm just from the male perspective um i think you not only would have to pay your attorney you'd have

01:38:09.280 to pay for her attorney attorneys typically charge 200 to 300 an hour divorces are typically not cheap

01:38:15.860 they drag on for years uh anything related to uh litigation or the uh court system is rather not

01:38:23.280 just financially taxing but is uh rather just mentally draining and mentally distracting um

01:38:30.060 whereas you could have perhaps a more clean split if you weren't tied in a marriage so there's that

01:38:35.660 there's alimony of course and then uh so kind of unrelated because you could have children outside of

01:38:42.060 wedlock there's of course child support but that's not really related to marriage because you can have

01:38:47.360 children outside of wedlock and child support can come into the picture whether you're married

01:38:50.740 or not so there's alimony there's the legal costs and then there's the uh the community property

01:38:56.660 component of it where you could be giving her essentially half of everything you've earned

01:39:00.860 during the course of the marriage you could get half of everything she's earned right but like

01:39:06.620 for for one for one i'm i'm doing all right for myself so i i probably out earn 99 of women and then

01:39:14.840 women don't marry with guys that make less than that's that's a very good point and then also i'm

01:39:22.060 not really from the man's side of that frankly i'm not really i don't really care about uh a woman's

01:39:28.340 money i'd prefer she's not in debt and perhaps she has she can take off take care of herself but

01:39:37.460 she doesn't need to be a boss babe she doesn't need to be grinding working 70 hours a week i'm not

01:39:42.160 really preoccupied with her her money if look if she's a fantastic person and she happens to

01:39:47.660 be very successful but also still has uh maintained uh the the thing with work and

01:39:55.600 there is a certain cutthroatness that you need to develop especially if you're uh an entrepreneur

01:40:04.860 you're self-employed you do develop certain you need to

01:40:10.200 doing business can sometimes be uh you're dealing with certain personalities and like

01:40:17.100 you have to like deal with the politicalness of the corporate world if you're in like a

01:40:22.260 corporate job and i think it does you do tend to develop perhaps more masculine traits as a woman if

01:40:29.040 you're very heavily not always but you can start developing a bit more of a you know you may get

01:40:35.420 a little bit more in your masculine which some men might find less attractive uh so i don't really

01:40:40.640 but ultimately i don't really care about uh a woman's money now on the flip side if i'm like

01:40:46.380 she's a billionaire heiress doesn't hurt i'm not saying no to that i'm not saying no but you'll get

01:40:53.040 married tomorrow let me put it to you because some some guys are like it's not it's not uh if a woman

01:41:02.220 makes her own money or even if she's a high earner that's it's not necessarily an issue unless it's

01:41:09.880 somehow like her hyper focus on her career inter has an impact on the relationship in some conceivable

01:41:18.340 way and i think oftentimes it can and does but on its own just because she makes a lot of money or

01:41:24.420 has a successful career on its own isn't necessarily an issue but it doesn't make her more attractive

01:41:30.640 this is same way that for example a man who's an attorney or a doctor or high status or whatever

01:41:35.780 will certainly make himself more attractive to a woman doesn't make a woman more attractive

01:41:40.880 i'd say it depends on the woman um i mean i don't think a successful woman cares because i'm

01:41:48.060 going to be honest you can come up to me tell me you're a doctor you're an attorney i don't really

01:41:50.940 care really yeah question for you do you question for you um are you're currently when you're in a

01:41:57.860 situation ship what does he do um we met at work so he's also okay okay okay no i i don't care

01:42:04.560 let me just address that so do you want uh how many kids do you want uh two three whatever i don't

01:42:12.980 really do you want to be working while you're pregnant yes however i've put myself into a

01:42:18.620 situation where i'm i'm good for a while okay so you're financially good i'm good it's like 10

01:42:25.080 years from now and he's starting his career or he wants me to pay for his medical school to i so that

01:42:30.680 i can get to the point where i can stay at home yeah that's fine i don't really care if you come to

01:42:33.800 me and you tell me you work when you have kids do you want to maybe take a little breather from work

01:42:39.260 when i have a child i'm not going to be working at all so for 18 years you're not going to work

01:42:43.440 yeah or longer hold on i'll adjust that yeah thank you grace we need more women like natalie and

01:42:51.160 less trash like only fans god oh damn three times did she yeah okay she's good grief here what

01:42:58.880 wait three times so she's wasted three hundred dollars you care too much you sound like a fan

01:43:06.380 thank you thanks grace yeah subscribe thank you we have uh the west dude i just want to read this

01:43:14.000 since it's before it disappears yo the west dude thank you man appreciate it how do you show through

01:43:18.040 actions not words that you are not just using the men you go on dates with as an atm or foodie date

01:43:23.280 uh i do want to address your point here let me write that down do any of the girls want to answer

01:43:29.520 this from the west dude how do you show through actions not words that you are not just using the men

01:43:34.580 you go on dates with that they're maybe like being is this directed at somebody specifically

01:43:40.600 yeah hey i like you we don't have to go on dates all the time and spend money on me like like you

01:43:47.300 guys said you know like handwritten letters like for valentine's day like a nice conversation like

01:43:51.660 what we want with each other you know like that you know that's what and also i i sleep with every

01:43:57.480 guy that i go on a date with so like you know you know you oh we'll get we're gonna get into it by

01:44:02.800 the way guys we we're gonna assuming you know they don't get cold feet we have a hater who's

01:44:08.120 gonna call in a fee we have a female hater who's gonna call in um and then i have notes everybody

01:44:13.960 here hate hate hate hate uh we i have notes here from everybody we got some juicy notes from all the

01:44:22.240 panelists at the table we're gonna get into that so um the west dude thank you for the your chat uh

01:44:28.020 i there was a study west dude where i i think i think it was from like ari arizona state unit asu maybe

01:44:37.100 where a professor there did a study and found that like it was like 33 or 66 percent nick are you

01:44:45.540 looking it up of women have engaged in foodie calls which is basically the where they get a free

01:44:51.920 dinner where they go on a dinner without like any sort of that's way too much effort just for a free

01:44:57.280 dinner i would agree with you i don't know what would be like to a fucking random effort you're

01:45:01.820 also gonna get that point oh wait nick what's the story of the woman in new york city the asian woman

01:45:07.040 who did like who went on six dates a week and never paid for groceries can you pull that one up too

01:45:14.960 yeah i i don't i don't have that much like thank you west dude for bringing that up um you got it

01:45:20.960 anything nick so do the foodie call study and then do the uh what's it what is it the the the the

01:45:28.260 there's a new york post article from that girl who yeah never bought groceries for two years because

01:45:34.420 she went on yeah she hustled for sure let me read these chats that grace chong we need more young

01:45:43.260 women to be natalie and less of garbage like grace we've already heard that like three times

01:45:48.360 yo grace uh thank you appreciate it grace is this your homie natalie she's she's she's very supportive

01:45:55.040 she's the cfo of war room so what's war room is that okay yeah yo grace we should have her on the

01:46:01.920 show grace you want grace lives in california so you should have her on if you like paid your friend

01:46:07.120 to comment on it no i'd love to meet you and then you should have grace on wow she she tripled down

01:46:13.000 you're welcome thank you grace thank you grace appreciate it we need more young women like

01:46:20.500 natalie wow okay she she was so uh so so she she sent it three times thank you guys

01:46:27.620 dude you need to find better things to spend your money on

01:46:30.660 could have just bought it let me see what she got it it's a hat trick

01:46:35.920 she thought she ate grace grace strong with the hat trick for natalie she thought she ate you said

01:46:47.200 she's in in california yeah yeah let's do it let's do it grace uh send us a dm on instagram

01:46:52.620 out whatever i will donate saying we need more young women three times you gotta do it three

01:46:56.600 times thank you perfect cool thank you grace appreciate it thank you for the support grace

01:47:02.040 you're awesome uh nick do you have anything pulled up uh foodie call nearly a third of women have gone

01:47:08.660 on dates just for free food survey fines i truthfully as like i just doing the math in terms of the time

01:47:16.040 investment doesn't make any sense doesn't make sense maybe like i could see the angle of i look i've

01:47:21.920 known women and women have come on the show who say they've done this maybe you guys have just but

01:47:27.320 i can i can no sorry no offense like if i'm on a two-hour date like i could make a lot more money

01:47:33.380 in two hours than i would for like a 30 quid lunch i don't know some of these dudes be spending way

01:47:40.360 too money on dinner dates though like 100 200 on a first date dinner date nick do you have the other

01:47:45.740 thing i went on six dates a week and didn't have to buy groceries for two years

01:47:51.720 now this is life slash dating on easy mode uh she went on dates without any real romantic interest

01:48:01.940 in the men and just got free food i wonder if she'd like or order extra she so she'd like take

01:48:08.180 yeah yeah like leftover yeah leftover can i get a takeaway box for this she was she had that shit

01:48:15.260 like down to a fucking sense as well then you've got to be like meshing these guys arranging it like

01:48:20.120 it's a lot of admin a lot of it's a lot of work like you'll she was probably lonely also i don't

01:48:26.160 think she'll just get ready just for dinner yeah i feel like dinner dates are so boring and overplayed

01:48:31.660 too like they're just not very creative let's go w's in the chat for natalie she doesn't like

01:48:35.760 dinner dates what do you want i hate seed oils and most restaurants cook with seed oils

01:48:40.140 you don't like seed oils i hate seed oils well can you do you have like an allergic allergy

01:48:47.080 they're industrially refined oil so it's like canola oil grapeseed oil also rapeseed oil

01:48:53.140 please don't ruin all restaurants for everyone yeah i know i know it's a real downer but

01:48:57.160 about chipotle is chipotle safer yeah what about in and out all the fast food chains are except

01:49:03.540 sweet green about two months ago announced that they were switching to olive oil for most of their

01:49:08.360 dressings and yeah olive oil is good but a date at sweet green is also very low energy um but i don't

01:49:14.460 know i feel like doing things is actually what's your like perfect date my perfect date i love walking

01:49:19.160 which is the world's most boring hobby but i love hiking that's good but then it's i mean at least

01:49:24.620 you get like a good chat in but i don't know about hikes though i guess you could get because

01:49:28.640 they're a little murder yeah like a sort of workout a public walk good

01:49:36.200 yeah have you done tai bo first date i don't know what that is

01:49:43.180 maybe that's in the 90s thing i don't know

01:49:46.600 it's like this workout and there's kicking and don't you just feel like it's worse though when

01:49:52.200 you're like sitting there across from it can be what about picnic the thing with the dinner date

01:49:56.960 the thing with the dinner date is if it's first off there's constant interruptions with the waiter

01:50:04.120 come in and it's like and then if you're trying to eat i don't know about you i don't like to talk

01:50:08.880 when i'm eating it's yeah so you gotta like and then they're they they go ahead like you're on a

01:50:13.380 dinner date right and they ask you a question that will take you five minutes to answer or maybe

01:50:18.040 maybe that's excessive three minutes and all the while your food's getting cold

01:50:22.040 excuse me it's a weird dance of i'm trying to eat my food sorry go ahead of trying to ask

01:50:27.960 the other person questions about themselves because everyone knows you're not just supposed

01:50:31.140 to talk about yourself but then no one really wants to talk about themselves because they don't

01:50:34.460 want to come off as narcissistic so it's just like ping pong questions but this is not even my

01:50:38.800 necessarily personal experience like i really haven't gone on that many first dates with people

01:50:43.220 i've randomly met but just for my my friends it just doesn't seem and then you can never fucking

01:50:48.040 leave like then you have to yeah or if you don't want to go home with them then it's really awkward

01:50:52.520 like it's just it creates more trouble than it's worth i'd rather just go well i certainly don't think

01:50:57.860 i mean if the guy treats you to dinner that certainly doesn't mean that he's uh entitled to anything else

01:51:07.020 uh and if a guy is like that's weird if a guy's like pushing that sort of way but i think like

01:51:12.100 meeting for a coffee is a bit more like i don't drink alcohol so that makes it also hard because

01:51:18.940 i feel like meeting in a bar is a lot just more casual but then it's like i'm gonna go to a bar and

01:51:23.900 like drink you could just get you want to get you can get like a soda or something that's what it seems

01:51:27.780 like like me no no no going to like a bar date you know like that's just like oh i would hate that

01:51:34.060 i love that it's like i love it i literally love it so much i'll have a few james sketch

01:51:38.840 you could do like an upscale lounge where it's not like a bar where it's super loud but like an

01:51:44.560 upscale lounge typically like not like a dive bar yeah but yeah you could get like uh you know

01:51:50.960 like a soda or you know juice or something or just go to like coffee but i'm with you i don't

01:51:57.180 i don't think dinner dates maybe like a second or third day but wait okay so we're getting into it

01:52:02.280 about marriage oh you okay you said you don't really i remember you said well if a guy was an

01:52:08.840 attorney or a doctor or whatever that wouldn't really matter all that much um but you said you

01:52:14.260 also like when you get married and have kids you want to stop working once you have kids right

01:52:18.320 yeah so something that i'm attracted to when it comes to men is um them wanting to grow whether

01:52:23.120 that's grow their business um grow up in a company something like that however you don't have to be

01:52:28.900 at the top to already come talk to me i'm attracted to drive that's what i'm attracted to um and then

01:52:34.640 from there let's say we get married in three years and then fourth year i have a kid but he's not making

01:52:40.220 enough money for me to be able to support him for him to be able to support me at home i do have

01:52:45.620 enough stock to where i would be able to support him continuing to go work and then me staying at

01:52:51.460 home you wait so you have enough saved to support your whole family like your whole family and then

01:53:01.640 two to three kids for 18 years maybe not not working i think you're saying like subsidize

01:53:07.100 to be able to stay at home he's making money i still have enough money and to where i'm able to

01:53:11.860 support his income and then my income combined okay we'd be able to be good where where do you

01:53:16.640 live again las vegas you're in las vegas okay well i mean you and i forgot exactly what you said but

01:53:23.580 did you say you wouldn't care if he was like a high earner no i wouldn't but i mean if you want to

01:53:29.160 if you want to stay at home then you're gonna have to have a guy who's capable of providing however

01:53:36.700 you don't have to come to me already at the top you can come to me at the bottom and i'm willing to

01:53:40.780 you just want an ambitious man yes exactly ambition goals yeah i like that i honestly would rather

01:53:47.140 go for the ambitious guy than someone who's already built up yeah it's not clear to me if

01:53:52.840 hot take here if women actually like purely ambitious men i think women are attracted to men

01:54:00.420 who have reaped the rewards of said ambition but if you're if he's ambitious and like not where he

01:54:09.480 like he's works at mcdonald's but he's ambitious i don't know if you're still gonna take the bet on

01:54:15.280 that guy i did i will i'm not saying all women i'm not saying all women but i think it and

01:54:20.900 it occurs to me that some women would rather wait at the finish line pick the men who have already

01:54:26.560 crossed the finish line pick the winners instead of the the maybes well i i do mind what the guy does

01:54:31.940 as long as like they have goals and really ambitious and very what if he's a soundcloud

01:54:36.700 rapper well at least he's so ambitious he's got a passion in something he's he's he's gonna make

01:54:42.820 it yeah yeah support his rap career man no more like a realistic ambition being a soundcloud rapper

01:54:48.800 is not realistic no i quite like that it's sort of like survivorship bias though how many people

01:54:53.520 want to be actors or in the entertainment industry and never make it but they're so ambitious and they

01:54:58.520 go on at least they try that's that's right but that that's unrealistic but practically speaking

01:55:04.400 like how where does that leave you if you want to be like for example uh uh you want to stay at home

01:55:09.400 and you want your man to be able to stay at home well if he doesn't succeed yeah i want to date

01:55:17.140 somebody who's like okay yes you know what this is the position that i'm in right now it might not be

01:55:21.160 the best position possible however this is my goal and this is how i'm going to get there and this is

01:55:26.020 what i'm really doing very sexy it's different it's very sexy because manny had no money when

01:55:33.260 we got together like i feel like you're sort of larping as a stay-at-home mom in the sense that i

01:55:37.120 think a stay-at-home mom is something bigger and it's like a culture in a household where the man is

01:55:41.960 providing for you so then you have the luxury to stay home and do it like it's not merely just reduced

01:55:47.680 to a financial thing like you stay at home because you financially can it's like you stay at home because

01:55:52.120 the guy is is complimenting you like that's amazing that you can afford to do that for yourself exactly

01:55:56.720 that's why but then you're sort of like a sugar not a sugar mommy but if you're like paying this

01:56:00.360 you know it just seems sort of like i would i wouldn't want to stay home because i have the

01:56:04.380 choice to i would i would want to stay home because my husband is taking care of my family and i don't

01:56:10.360 have to like secretly pay the bills on the side oh 100 i get that and it's not going to be something

01:56:15.300 that i'm going to be doing forever and i'm going to make sure that that's something that's told and

01:56:19.320 there's certain things that men will do when they aren't making money that show that he has the

01:56:23.580 capability to take care of you when he is making the money like it's an attitude it's the way i

01:56:27.820 don't think i don't think women care that much about the ambition i just want to i don't think

01:56:31.560 they care i really want to i'm the most ambitious person in santa barbara these santa barbara women

01:56:37.740 are not like oh i've already said i'm fine to you like work ethic is maybe a better way because

01:56:45.940 when i think ambition i think like grifter like crypto promoter like you know what i'm saying

01:56:50.220 like it's not it doesn't necessarily connote someone who actually is working hard like you

01:56:54.880 could be very ambitious if you want to be like the world's best only fans creator no offense that's

01:56:59.860 not necessarily ambition that i would look up to so i feel like i don't know not to put words in your

01:57:05.000 mouth but there's a little more like refinement there let me let me try to let me try to put it

01:57:10.520 into a different perspective somebody who has a goal it's a possible goal it's a reachable goal

01:57:16.400 and then he also knows how he's going to achieve that goal and it's not something like it's not

01:57:21.500 something like oh my gosh one day i'm going to be the next like uh travis scott and then he's like

01:57:26.640 you ask him okay how are you going to be travis scott he's like well i'm still going to make this

01:57:31.380 music and like no that's stupid guys tell me sit here and tell me listen i'm going to invest in this

01:57:37.300 i'm going to invest in this this is how i'm going to get the money to invest in this or blah blah blah

01:57:40.820 things like that not necessarily someone who's working a dead-end job doesn't make good times

01:57:47.020 what you were saying brian i wanted to circle back to that real quick i keep trying but um when you

01:57:52.120 were saying like you know most women want to you know get a guy at the finish line and don't really

01:57:55.880 want someone in the middle you know maybe for some people like me personally i feel like if you're

01:58:00.300 with a guy you know like you were saying and they have a reachable goal and stuff and like you're with

01:58:04.160 him and you know grinding with him until he reaches that goal and then you know eventually

01:58:07.940 then you know he's at the top with you and you were there with him through the whole struggle and

01:58:12.420 that just shows like how much of a good woman you are and i feel like you could prove yourself to him

01:58:17.220 you know that you trust and believe in him and you know you want him to be the leader and that he

01:58:22.160 was able to reach those goals i'm curious though for the women here at the table where on the totem

01:58:26.400 pull of like is ambition like where is that number one thing you look for in a guy is his ambition

01:58:33.200 is it his character is it his his game is it i think someone who's just funny get along with

01:58:39.620 oh i thought you're about to say something else but i'm big cock yes definitely no i'm actually not

01:58:47.240 a size queen yeah um we're in boys definitely i'm actually the reverse i'm the reverse of the

01:58:57.120 size queen you've got a bit really big cock what i'm so confused what what no like size size doesn't

01:59:06.220 matter no it does like it's the ocean of the ocean i'm like the corresponding like uh wait what

01:59:13.240 let me yo plug i'm plugging this blm big baby yo hashtag be a big lady so you like big labia

01:59:19.120 large labia yeah i'm a oh really yep okay period i almost wanted like i actually had mine chopped

01:59:24.300 off wait you had a you had a labiaplasty yeah i did wait are you are you are you telling the truth

01:59:29.840 i paid like five grand for it so i got i did it about two years ago why hold on because i didn't

01:59:35.580 like my big labia i'm sorry you guys like ryan it wasn't cute he is now honestly i look like

01:59:44.160 fucking now he bobby you lost your this is why i do what i do so that women like lily don't mutilate

01:59:51.120 themselves uh i didn't ask to keep it can i ask you why you did it um you didn't like for cosmetic

01:59:59.940 reasons yeah i just didn't like the look of it i didn't feel sexy i felt really insecure and you know

02:00:04.620 no one had actually said anything about it i just felt really insecure myself damn that's so

02:00:10.300 r.i.p i did ask to keep it though as in like what do you mean oh my god but they wouldn't let me keep

02:00:16.200 it they were like it's like bodily like that's fucking disgusting but i just wanted to like keep

02:00:22.820 it yeah why would you like why not wait i could probably sell it you know you know i know a lot of

02:00:28.180 girls that actually do that i know about three that have done it so far who've had labiaplasty god

02:00:34.340 damn this is fucking it wasn't cute though i'll show you later yeah yeah public service announcement

02:00:41.800 if there's any women who are considering mutilating themselves and getting a labiaplasty for cosmetic

02:00:49.340 reasons please don't wait why do you like it do you like to like suck on it and swing

02:00:53.220 actually i don't do that oh my god i don't whoa i have not well i'm gonna you know retract my thing

02:01:07.780 that i fancy you because if you don't eat pussy i'm not good good i want nothing to do with you

02:01:13.060 good uh yeah i haven't gone down on the girl since the bush administration oh what's the bush

02:01:18.580 administration like 2000 2000 to 2008 why is it when the bush bush so i think it was like it was

02:01:26.100 like 2007 2008 the last time i went down on the girl why why i did it a couple times it just wasn't

02:01:31.820 my thing look do you expect to get pussy's great don't get me wrong like pussy but just not my

02:01:37.840 i i don't do that no but do you not like do you not like i'll do it making your partner

02:01:44.000 what making your partner like oh i want no okay well i remember we were talking about what women

02:01:51.660 they there's the orgasm gap i like i want to make my girl climax before i do preferably

02:01:59.220 multiple times like a little vibrator well there's i mean there's there's ways depends on the girl

02:02:04.340 finger yes you can use your hands you can use you can use a toy i'm open to i'm open to using toys

02:02:10.420 right you know if needed so it's sometimes it's not needed and you don't have to but some you know

02:02:16.340 some women struggle without so you know let's use

02:02:20.980 technology son makes my job easier why not sports donated 100

02:02:30.020 brixton does not do that he is properly terrified of dying from meeting about who's that famous actor

02:02:36.180 is it charlie sheen's dad fuck what's his name or is it who's who's one of these actors got throat

02:02:42.660 cancer and they there's this there is a hypothesis no there's a hypothesis out there that um hpv

02:02:50.180 well we know it causes cervical cancer right so i stand it's plausible that this also causes

02:02:55.860 throat cancer but when you know when you give eating you know when you suck cock if you do it

02:03:01.140 really hard and deep throat it like it actually bruises your throat so really like that happens

02:03:06.660 more using your esophagus yeah throat cancer so really we're putting ourselves on the line

02:03:11.380 you can't really like i eat a lot of you can't really yeah i think there's no harm in eating

02:03:20.820 pussy you should eat pussy yeah makes your skin better what about you michael douglas wait what's

02:03:25.780 about nick this poor guy he was just eating too much pussy and he got throat cancer that's a theory you

02:03:32.900 said no i don't believe it he said i think he said that i don't wait can i ask nick nick do you eat

02:03:38.900 pussy uh i think she's yeah she's moved on from brian yeah i was like fuck that no i look listen okay look

02:03:51.540 i got neck problems okay i'm sorry i don't that's old jesus yeah look i got a fucking ice pack

02:04:00.100 look at this shit maybe have that on when you do that you told me what that was for boom got an ice

02:04:05.380 pack you know i got neck problems i'm just not a fan can i use that after honestly i've been sat on so

02:04:11.860 much cock recently my pussy yeah we'll yeah we'll we'll get you uh we'll get you some penicillin how

02:04:17.940 about that um well uh but uh that's a tragedy did you actually get a labiaplasty i'll show you the

02:04:25.620 before and after okay yeah it's so much cute now i heard it hurts like really bad like the recovery

02:04:32.740 i actually went out like clubbing the night i got it done because they got me on care when i had it

02:04:38.340 done so i was like let's fucking turn it up let's go yeah it wasn't painful but i did have sex

02:04:46.020 like a week after i had it done and the stitches came out it was thank you it was really painful

02:04:50.580 but i shouldn't have done that yeah they say you're not supposed to for like a month

02:04:55.940 that's so sad though that's so depressing yo genuinely though any any some women who have

02:05:01.860 that's a sweet message though no some women who have an outie and look i think they get it from

02:05:06.260 both men and women but maybe they had a boyfriend who made a insensitive comment maybe they've heard

02:05:10.980 insensitive comment from the high school boys whatever you know there's certain terms that

02:05:15.220 can be thrown around that may make a woman feel uh self-conscious ladies like punch those on your

02:05:22.660 pussy and there's also this uh fake news that if a woman does have an outie it means that she's had

02:05:28.740 a lot of sexual partners that's not true yeah well not just not loose but like if you've had a lot of

02:05:35.700 sexual partners that it can cause no that's not that's not true you can be a virgin and have an outie so

02:05:43.140 ladies don't do it don't do it i'm i'm a natural body supremacist i'm not in favor of plastic surgery

02:05:51.540 either okay i don't want no no fake titties no bbl no fake lips i'd rather you know i'd rather i'd

02:05:59.620 rather no boobs than perfect fake titties i'd prefer like a flat bum yeah well i haven't yeah english

02:06:06.020 might say i'm i'm not my bottom john and i've i haven't got fake tits oh i'm not talking about

02:06:10.740 you just i'm saying like i would prefer she's still trying to fuck yeah oh okay yeah checks out

02:06:18.260 and i prefer a girl with like maybe a little you know sometimes girls got a little belly fat they

02:06:21.940 thinking about getting the lipo i don't the lipo belly looks weird to me like hiding my stomach and

02:06:28.340 stuff somebody no like you said about the stomach but no like that's what i'm well i want lipo on my

02:06:33.780 stomach have you seen like the fake abs you can get like fake abs put in yeah that's just weird

02:06:39.700 in any case listen ladies if you're thinking about getting a labiaplasty don't do it if you

02:06:44.740 need i'll talk you out of it i'll talk you out of it you got a large labia i'll talk you out of it

02:06:50.340 yeah just send him a photo and then i'll have a chat i'm gonna be a bit hyperbolic in this next

02:06:54.900 statement i only date women with large labia how about that i only like top one criteria women have

02:07:03.940 there's women out there who are size queens i know you said you're not a size queen

02:07:07.380 if women are allowed to have preferences like that so too can us men so i i only date women

02:07:15.140 with large labia the bigger the better fuck she left it i'm just trying to put it back on

02:07:22.100 i want to jump in i think it's interesting two out of three of you right only famous porn oh

02:07:27.460 brixton's flannel donated 100 denim dana calm down with the mic stand it won't impress

02:07:35.060 brixton is she doing is she using girls who wear canadian tuxedos he only love me his flannel i

02:07:42.820 live in the back of his subaru i don't have a subaru that's her speaking of which somebody had this

02:07:49.460 we were talking about subaru i said how so i'm from vegas and how i put it on like a self-driving mode

02:07:55.460 oh we got fat boy please ask natalie winters about what i couldn't what the no titties no uh i don't

02:08:05.940 know what that is but they want you uh okay i think uh we'll skip over that one i don't think

02:08:14.180 i don't know if that fat boy does not work for war room okay fat boy okay coming back

02:08:19.700 hey boy wait oh go ahead uh you do your quick thing with the subaru yes i was um talking about

02:08:26.900 how i drove my subaru here well not really drove it i just put in the self-driving mode

02:08:31.380 and it just took off and then you responded yeah so so you know how you get them teslas

02:08:38.180 they're like really like easily drivable um i actually fucked the driver while we were driving

02:08:44.820 down like the motorway in one of them but it was daytime all blacked out and honestly one

02:08:51.380 some of the best sex i've ever had that was beautiful yes it wasn't like my uber drive or

02:08:55.780 anything yeah stranger yeah no i knew oh wait last thing on marriage and then manny i know you wanted

02:09:00.660 to come in on something last thing on marriage because i know i know we've moved on to a couple

02:09:04.900 different topics here i do think when it comes to marriage right again religious from the religious

02:09:12.980 perspective marriage cool the issue is though even if you're religious when it comes to let's say

02:09:20.660 your marriage doesn't work and one partner is suing for a breakup suing for a divorce they're not

02:09:26.420 going to go to the church they're going to go to the state the state presides over their marriage not

02:09:32.740 the church or their priest or their biblical values so when the woman is unhappy from the man's

02:09:38.580 perspective she's going to go to the state she's not going to go to god so um she might but if she's

02:09:45.860 dead set on getting the divorce and many people are she's going to go to a divorce attorney

02:09:52.340 and also well let me just if even if your wife is not inclined to screw you over in a divorce

02:09:59.220 maybe she's a good person or godly or whatever is her divorce attorney

02:10:03.300 which by the way you'll probably have to pay for along with your own attorney so

02:10:11.140 i think and the divorce attorney's incentive the divorce attorney is there to make money

02:10:18.260 uh so again it's uh it's sort of treacherous it's a treacherous situation for men especially men who

02:10:26.740 make a good amount of money uh to get married nowadays especially with you know the current state of the

02:10:33.140 legal system and uh so yeah i was going to say with the idea of as a christian if there was

02:10:40.660 something with beck and i's marriage we would bring it to god and then we would bring it to

02:10:45.300 our community right our brothers and sisters in christ and then we would bring it to the church

02:10:49.460 leader so three levels added additionally before getting to that so right it is not um we live in

02:10:56.340 a perfect world we live in a fallen world we are all sinful and sinning means going against god

02:11:01.060 god is good god is love and evil is the absence of god so when we go away from god that's when we

02:11:06.500 start to experience these things so having that community around having the body of christ is a

02:11:10.100 beautiful thing by the way if somebody's going i can't do his program because he said he was you

02:11:14.180 know in relationship with jesus the program you do not need to be of any religious belief anything

02:11:18.900 like that we made it that way so it's open to anyone so if anyone is wondering that just want to make

02:11:22.500 sure i said okay here i'm gonna finally get into uh some of people's uh pre-show notes here i was

02:11:29.220 gonna start with the lily but i think she's gone off to the bathroom here so first let's start with

02:11:34.100 andrea andrea you said you met some weird guys from tinder before any notable stories you can share with us

02:11:42.660 so i met this one guy um on tinder and really cool looking guy you know he was like six foot nine

02:11:49.220 was in the military uh he had a really nice house in arcadia if you guys know yeah so um

02:11:55.060 arcadia yeah i know in phoenix in arizona but yeah um really even really nice house you know and

02:12:02.020 i was talking to him but anyways so his tinder bio was like i like to buy my girlfriend's voluptuous

02:12:07.940 assets so you know we were talking he's like yeah i like to get them you know lip fillers bbls botox

02:12:14.500 breast implants everything and he's like it's kind of like making my own customizable barbie doll

02:12:20.740 yes red flag and i'm not making this up this is like the weirdest and i feel like the only weird

02:12:26.740 story i could really tell but anyways you know i get to uh his house and stuff and he's just like

02:12:32.260 telling me how he um was dating this girl but actually like um she was transgender so he you know

02:12:39.060 paid for her surgery to everything yeah pay for her surgery to

02:12:48.340 sorry wait was it thank you we good jesus christ my bad okay no they're good now they're titting okay

02:12:58.100 sorry um did you guys see that no no i i got it just in time okay okay thank you that's i just shot

02:13:07.380 to him i wear covers anyways yeah so uh fucking and you know we're like talking and stuff and he was

02:13:17.780 just like getting really upset about that and you know it was really weird like we didn't hook up or

02:13:21.940 anything um then i left and then you know we're texting and stuff and he was calling me like doll

02:13:28.660 and asking me you know like how long i've been into like the whole barbie looks i used to wear like a

02:13:33.140 bunch of makeup and like you know stuff like that and um then it just got weirder he was like telling

02:13:39.460 me oh is it okay like if i can tell you what to dress what to eat what you can do every day and blah

02:13:45.300 blah blah blah and yeah it was just like really odd um and then he was like sending me gifts of

02:13:53.060 like a a three p two in the pussy and one in the ass yeah and then he said he wanted to do that and

02:13:59.460 then wait so hold on i you said he was dating a woman that wanted to become a man or a man that

02:14:10.580 wanted to become a woman yeah they were already which way yeah it was there was a man who wanted

02:14:14.740 to become a woman and he was dating the man yeah and then he's like into gay guys too so he would

02:14:20.100 tell me that he wanted me to have a gay guy have sex with me missionary and then he has sex with the

02:14:25.700 gay guy uh anally like wow like human centipede kind of yeah like it was like american horror story

02:14:32.340 there's a scene in like the uh election one where she's laying down that's the guy's doing it

02:14:37.140 oh yeah the guy while he's fucking the girl and it's kind of like a whole like

02:14:42.180 it's like a weird train i think he needs him then he can't go back and then it's like well if he's

02:14:48.100 gay why would he have sex with me a woman he's bisexual yeah yeah he said he wanted a gay guy to

02:14:54.340 fuck me and then he fucks the gay guy so i'm like how is that even possible yes like tinder is a dark

02:15:01.380 place and then just to kind of like i don't know and that's that's pretty much it i'll at least

02:15:07.060 address so he had a desire was he like kind of a well-off wealthy guy yes yeah so he wanted to

02:15:13.860 pay for you and then it sounded like his other people that he was dating pay for various plastic

02:15:18.820 surgeries you said lip filler breast implants bbl perhaps lipo 2 or oh yeah all of it he said he

02:15:25.300 wanted he views women as that he's dating as his own customizable barbie doll yes it's such like any

02:15:31.940 girls here at the table who are watching if your significant other your boyfriend whatever want like

02:15:38.500 is pushing on you to get any plastic surgery i think that's a major major red flag major red flag

02:15:46.180 like literally just wants to control and just make me his barbie doll and i was just like yeah i know

02:15:51.940 after that i ghosted him because it's like it's like maybe some girls want all that but eventually

02:15:56.020 you're gonna hate your life and just being controlled like a puppet on a string yes it was

02:16:02.180 crazy that's and he was a very handsome man and it's like he's tall yes never in my life have i seen

02:16:09.380 a man that tall he was handsome yes i'm rich like yeah we should get this guy on the show what the

02:16:14.740 yeah so he was like a bisexual he was a bisexual had like a plastic surgery fetish kind of almost yes

02:16:25.380 he and he sent me pictures of his like ex-girlfriends and just like from the nose down it's very you know

02:16:31.460 dude this guy is a is a fucking menace no like it's one thing like he can he can probably actually

02:16:38.020 get the women to do this because bro he's six nine you say he's good looking and he's wealthy this

02:16:44.420 guy's a fucking menace destroying destroying women honestly but go ahead madeline okay so it

02:16:50.900 to me it sounds like this guy obviously has some like perverted sex stuff going on which i think

02:16:55.220 you would probably attest i'm sure there's some level of like weird porn addiction going on there

02:16:59.620 that leads you down that rabbit hole and it sounds like you were basically offended about him more

02:17:04.740 or less treating women like objects and trying to dictate what they could or couldn't do with their

02:17:08.340 bodies all in exchange for money so how is that really any different it's like he's like

02:17:14.340 literally controlling their life though like you he's telling me what i can eat how i can dress what

02:17:19.620 i can do who i can talk to he wants to make me look a certain way and it's like only fans i can look

02:17:24.900 how i want to and i look how i do and they love it you know everybody has a type and you know and i

02:17:30.740 get what you're trying to say i really do but i mean there is a pretty i agree it varies in degrees

02:17:36.020 but don't you think that only fans as a platform is maybe kind of laying the groundwork for people like

02:17:40.900 that to go down you don't think there's any correlation not only fans but just porn in general

02:17:47.300 well yeah because actually his uh ex-girlfriend was a porn star that he was paying for all the

02:17:51.380 surgeries and stuff so i mean i get what you're saying and stuff you know and it's always going to

02:17:55.700 be uh you know sometimes you know i do feel bad for the guys and stuff you know who are buying it and

02:18:00.820 you know and i just can we get this guy on the show we need to find him you don't you don't i

02:18:08.740 mean i don't know i don't know i can't i could probably try to look through my contacts so i

02:18:12.740 don't even know if i remember his name i think i actually screenshotted i screenshotted his tinder

02:18:18.340 profile oh you never met i did yes i met him in real life hooking up no we never we met one time

02:18:25.460 and oh just he was yeah and it was wait off the bat he was trying to he was just telling me what

02:18:30.820 he wants and what he expects and stuff and i was like why did you meet with him but i didn't know

02:18:35.700 until we talked in person yeah and did he pretend to be normal at first yeah yeah and then he just

02:18:41.780 kind of two sides yeah i know for real oh yeah guys go to twitch.tv sat slash whatever drop us a

02:18:52.340 follow and a prime sub if you got one also youtube.com slash whatever second that's our

02:18:59.460 clips channels mate fucking subscribe you is that his way of flirting

02:19:06.180 you i don't know okay something i don't know butchered it wait okay hold on so okay there's

02:19:14.100 this crazy dude hold on let's see what else from you you've been ghosted a bunch how many times have

02:19:18.980 you've been ghosted you you mentioned that in your pre-show notes yeah um literally like every

02:19:23.940 time like you know i go on a date with somebody or you know even just like talking and then that's

02:19:28.740 what like we were kind of talking about that earlier you know you like you talk to somebody and then they

02:19:32.260 just like they just want to see what you look like like they don't even want to meet up with a woman in

02:19:37.940 real life like if they can convince you to give them nudes for free you know and i'm like okay well you

02:19:44.660 know we might hook up and stuff so you know i'll show them what i look like they don't even want to

02:19:47.940 hook up they just want to see what you look like like for free you know like and a lot of like guys

02:19:53.700 like with the addiction and stuff i feel like they don't really know how to like talk to a woman in real

02:19:58.340 life don't you think making only fans content makes it more likely for guys to not feel invested

02:20:04.340 in a relationship because it's easier for them to ghost you because they can just go to only fans and

02:20:08.260 see those pictures they don't have to yes exactly and they don't know how to talk to women irl

02:20:13.860 i gotta i have a hypothesis here could it be that prior to seeing the nude photographs that you sent

02:20:21.300 them perhaps they were inclined to meet up with you after seeing the nude photographs maybe they

02:20:29.460 had a change of heart could that maybe that's also probably another reason but it's like it's not

02:20:34.820 even like you know like before like sending pics and stuff because like and i would also just like

02:20:39.460 you know meet up and we would go on dates and you know i would see a guy for a while and then just

02:20:44.580 randomly like just get ghosted so yeah you know it could be you know and it's okay because one day

02:20:51.860 i'll meet a man one day i'll meet a man who loved me for me so yeah great he gonna love me for me so you

02:20:59.460 know i may not be everyone's type but i'm somebody's type and he out there so i'm just i know i get it

02:21:05.060 i know and i've thought about it too and it probably is you know i'm insecure about how

02:21:08.260 i look you know they're probably like oh well she's probably fat so don't want to be with me

02:21:12.820 i get it i'm not going to sit here and lie you know just a hypothesis i mean i don't know that's

02:21:19.380 just i'm you know brainstorming here you also said online dating is weird i think guys who use it

02:21:25.460 aren't real men because they can't just pull a girl in real life yeah and that's like what i was

02:21:32.020 saying you know like the all online stuff it's everybody not everybody but a lot of men are used

02:21:36.340 to just being online and getting that quick satisfaction you know real quick you know yeah

02:21:43.780 and then they just like and then yeah you know and like they don't want to you know like put in the

02:21:47.940 word get to know somebody you're like you know like and it's like being shy to you know you go

02:21:52.260 somewhere and you're like man i should have talked to her but then you go and like say you know her on

02:21:56.500 facebook like oh i saw you at that party i i got something for this for the whole panel so

02:22:01.700 going around the table do you think it's easy to attract a woman as a man yeah you know if you got

02:22:10.180 raised okay wait i need i need like attract a woman as a man do you think it's easy to attract a woman

02:22:17.940 as a man if you're tall oh yeah uh from person's rights yeah i find it all right you think so okay

02:22:26.020 you you think it's easy you think it's easy to attract because you're you mean if you're any

02:22:30.020 woman or okay this question is prefaced by your statement you said guys who use dating apps so who

02:22:36.020 meet women online aren't real men because they can't get women in real life aka like approaching women

02:22:42.420 in public um so the question is do you think it's easy to attract a woman as a man go ahead

02:22:50.980 oh me yeah um i don't think i don't think so i think it's very difficult for a man to approach

02:22:56.900 a woman um i feel like they have to be very confident in themselves okay what about you um i

02:23:03.460 agree no i don't think it's easy i think with the onset of like me too culture the feminism stuff i

02:23:09.460 think there's a lot more negative ramifications if you hit on women very good point what do you

02:23:16.900 think um i think that they can get kind of scared so they like try to stray away from that as to why

02:23:23.460 they use dating apps like it's hard for like some guys to go up to a girl because like oh like she's

02:23:29.300 so pretty like she's probably gonna reject me well when in reality she might like be like okay i'm down

02:23:34.340 like let's go on a date here's my number but they just need to like face their fears okay uh your

02:23:39.780 thoughts i think it depends on what type of girl you're going after probably okay all right um so i

02:23:50.260 want to actually do an experiment here once madison comes back so uh those of you who said

02:23:58.580 it's easy to attract a woman as a man what we're going to do is we're going to have you pretend to be

02:24:03.700 men and you guys are going to hit on madison here i actually think i got the question mixed up i think

02:24:09.540 i thought you meant is it easy to attract guys as a girl no no the question is yeah it's easy to attract

02:24:15.140 a woman as as a man i got a little bit mixed up yeah but madison's very pretty and so like i can

02:24:21.620 imagine she gets a lot of guys approach her and so like but is it but the the role play here would

02:24:28.100 be you're pretending to be a man here we'll do with you since it was kind of your ultimate

02:24:34.180 hit on her um so you're gonna pretend to be a man and you're gonna hit on madison fit today mate

02:24:43.620 oh that's good actually we'll have you do it too

02:24:45.140 here madison sit sit here i'm gonna referee from behind the scenes

02:24:51.300 so all right go ahead oh you're fucking langers mate i don't know what that means

02:24:56.900 on that thing it's all english like sorry can i sit on your hat

02:25:04.740 can i sit on your head

02:25:07.780 i feel like you guys should actually try though try like be in the position like of a man

02:25:13.220 and what would you say to i feel like i see you somewhere you look so familiar your eyes are

02:25:19.140 just so gorgeous and that highlighter on your cute little nose i'm trying to get to know you

02:25:26.420 would you like be attracted to a guy if he came up to you and said that maybe i think so i think it's

02:25:32.580 definitely better than okay okay i'm gonna actually respond how i would respond you're at trader joe's

02:25:39.780 what's trader joe's is it a nice restaurant grocery store okay oh my gosh are you getting broccoli

02:25:50.020 as well yeah are you oh fuck off

02:25:53.780 next

02:25:59.620 i already did mine it is ours

02:26:04.420 if i was a girl and to hit on a girl i'd just be like call them pretty and be like are you into

02:26:08.900 girls and be like hi here your goal is to try to get her on it so actually try to move the

02:26:16.020 interaction forward try to get her on okay i'm trying to think what what a guy would say to me

02:26:21.620 to if the thing is if he was just really fit i'd be like yeah take me on a date fine you could also

02:26:25.620 think about something a guy has said to you that you've been like oh oh we're helping her too much

02:26:29.780 okay yeah yeah sorry oh your hair's so nice thank you no it's really pretty i like how long it is

02:26:39.060 thank you my sister has long hair like that

02:26:42.340 i don't know how to hit on girls i'm not a guy okay i'll hit on you okay i'll hit on her you're

02:26:50.820 gonna hit her i already did okay i'll hit on you um

02:26:57.220 you want to do it i already went okay i'll try yours was pretty good but thank you

02:27:02.260 here bring it back we'll do you and then we'll do her guys well all right damn girl your skins look

02:27:10.340 so soft it's so beautiful i'm really trying to get to know you oh i'm really trying to get to know

02:27:17.860 you if you just give me a chance i really could prove to you i could be the man you want we could

02:27:22.900 build something just get to know me i'm okay where you want to go i get it i respect it have a good day

02:27:31.460 ma thank you you too okay can i just like say something that that reminded me of you know

02:27:37.620 those guys that like sell chocolate outside of target and they'll like try to hit on you

02:27:46.820 okay seriously try to shoot your shot okay um hey what's your name madison are you from around here

02:27:54.340 um yeah oh cool i just moved here um maybe you can show me around sometime

02:28:00.340 you think i could get your number yeah sure that was i would say that was the best out of like

02:28:07.940 still not like still not still not if i'm fine and i got money then she'll say yes yeah i think

02:28:14.420 it's more just like if you look at someone and like yeah kind of attractive and they they sound

02:28:19.300 normal maybe not sounds creepy yeah like hey mom yeah i know you like it

02:28:28.980 i don't think i've ever had a guy talk to me like that

02:28:31.780 actually wait no yeah they don't speak like that in england they're more like

02:28:35.060 fucking hell you're fucking lang let me get your number g that's what they say what does g mean

02:28:41.060 g like girl gal i just like you're my g like you're my mate you're my what you over here means

02:28:48.740 gangster yeah like my mate my friend like you know you call like anyone oh that's my g's i'm a bestie

02:28:55.380 so like they just be like oh your bud nalengas fucking hell look at the rack on that i mean how

02:29:02.580 did you hit on on your wife yes beck and i were set up on a blind date we went to top golf and you

02:29:09.940 think it'd be good but it'd be one person's watching us on our first date the whole time

02:29:13.460 so with my sister and her husband they set us up oh i get it so then we come to find that we're

02:29:20.660 pretty much next door neighbors and our first date or some of them we're just going to the grocery

02:29:24.500 store speaking of trader joe's and it's cool because you see what does this person shop like

02:29:28.820 you know just having casual conversation what you getting there okay you know and just kind of living

02:29:33.620 life with each other a little bit seeing what it's like so it was nice i was watching behind the scenes

02:29:39.220 you guys all failed like i'm sorry that yeah that was i'm not a guy uh how did i fail but you you had

02:29:47.540 a very strong opinion because you said you think guys who use dating apps to meet women aren't

02:29:52.900 aren't real men and that they can't get women in real life but you just demonstrated your your

02:29:59.940 quote unquote riz and that shit was whack because i don't raise i don't raise man we're not used to

02:30:08.900 like we're used to guys don't you think like okay do you do you think for example men should put in

02:30:13.220 more effort when it comes to dating do you think men don't put in enough effort when it comes to

02:30:18.020 dating i think they do oh yeah okay they do okay i think most of them are scared i don't think they

02:30:25.700 try but it's like you you have these high expectations of men to like oh we should go approach but like

02:30:34.500 y'all that up you fucked it up i mean that was i know i think if you're really good looking though

02:30:41.060 you can say like more or less like let's see what oh can we all agree it's scary to talk to

02:30:48.020 you know a girl if you're a guy oh how's it done i've got guys numbers before and that's pretty easy

02:30:55.380 but i think it's a little bit different it's interesting one of the things we talk about

02:30:58.820 porn but people who watch porn they're watching it and they're like oh you know she's just into

02:31:03.060 anything i want she's going to change her body she's going to do any position i want the human

02:31:06.660 centipede whatever it may be and then they get out there they say hey what's up oh you know i'll

02:31:11.140 bang you whatever sorry i was trying to half go english accent not like anyway uh switched halfway

02:31:16.580 but then they get rejected they run back to porn then they try one more time then they run back

02:31:20.820 they run back and soon they've just gone down this rabbit hole of just i can have any woman any way i

02:31:24.820 want anytime i want and they're seeing i can have it anytime they're being fed that but then they're

02:31:28.740 getting ed which is something that i struggled with a ton very early on after watching porn and it's like

02:31:34.100 hey how you doing it's like she wants to move things for you like oh i i don't know so you're

02:31:38.500 in this weird complex of yeah i'm this huge ladies man but i also doesn't work and you're freaking out

02:31:44.260 and you're thinking she wants to be slapped around in the bedroom because that's what i've seen online

02:31:47.700 and and don't do this is a crazy one 90 what was it 96 percent of aggression against women is received

02:31:53.780 positively in porn or neutrally or neutrally and so it's like whoa yeah i went to the avians like a

02:32:01.380 porn convention all the guys less sorry what wait all the guys there are super like aggressive no no

02:32:11.060 no quite quiet usually quite like introverted a very like nervous to speak to you yeah

02:32:20.260 can i speak to something pg-13 sure when you're watching only fans when you're watching porn they

02:32:25.700 wish that they were there and you they wish that you were theirs right and they're sitting in adult

02:32:30.580 where the cuck position right they're sitting in the side of the room watching something happening

02:32:34.180 and they're sitting there and they're feeling i i should be a real man being with that woman i i

02:32:39.060 should and she wants it but but then and then they're getting ed thrown on top of it and then

02:32:42.580 you're at the porn convention the sex convention and they're going it's like that's your shot if

02:32:48.100 you're going for that you know and they're they're so scared and so it is one of those things where even

02:32:53.220 people come up to us it's like should teenagers not do that and it's like yeah we should teach those

02:32:58.580 kids how to talk to girls in high school so that way they become adults who know how to talk to

02:33:02.580 girls instead of just pressing a button and their body can literally handle it if they have a wet

02:33:07.220 dream right it's like it's built into the system if they really needed to but you know sometimes

02:33:12.100 people say well if a kid is 60 days and he's you know he's like gotta get off well that doesn't

02:33:16.740 happen because what happens is well it's kind of soft when he's getting going and then he starts having

02:33:19.860 some thoughts and then he starts thinking about well maybe i should watch some porn he watches porn and it

02:33:23.780 just teaches him reinforces it reinforces and then one is it bad for you to work um and not to rank

02:33:29.140 though uh well i think you should be using that energy positively in a different direction so like

02:33:34.980 we're talking about learning how to speak to girls because that is driving you to i want to have sex

02:33:39.460 with this person i want to so they need to think i'm a normal person not you know not no offense but

02:33:44.020 just i like your skin you look like my sister you know a little bit you know it's like uh they need to

02:33:48.340 learn how to talk to them right and so if they're scared and they never do and they never learn it and then

02:33:52.740 also just using that energy to just build skills especially at that young age and so beck and i

02:33:58.340 were lucky you know we were pretty young when we got married we're pretty young when we met each

02:34:01.220 other how old were we 22 24 when we met 20 when we met 22 so yeah i recently did like a porn scene

02:34:09.060 where the whole scenario was he hasn't had sex in like six months and i was like are you not going

02:34:14.740 to explode like is that not really bad for you and then obviously we got into there nice but i find that

02:34:21.140 funny that i thought it was really bad for you not to like yeah like blue balls is the body's

02:34:27.540 just going to take care of it you're going to be dreaming you're going to be thinking about it

02:34:30.340 and really if it really is that much you don't have to i really it's honestly at that young age

02:34:35.220 it's healthy because it it builds certain like emotions or it what what's the word hormones so it

02:34:41.700 releases certain hormones and things like that however it's healthy in moderation when you do it

02:34:45.140 continuously that's when it then becomes unhealthy word okay cool wait what about you said something

02:34:52.100 about oh there's something about avn and like something about uh the there's they're shy violence

02:34:59.540 in the porn or something no they're they're not they're not violent but there's this uptick in like

02:35:06.740 violence in adult content and also i found in relationships i don't know what happened in like 2014

02:35:13.860 2015 all of a sudden y'all wanted to get started getting choked i don't know what happened

02:35:18.500 yeah 2014 that was fucking tumblr i never had 50 shades of gray i never had a girl ask me to choke

02:35:27.860 her and then all of a sudden it was like overnight epidemic it was just a switch girls all of a sudden

02:35:32.740 wanted to be choked i'm like it kind of feels good dog i'm not gonna lie there is a direct correlation

02:35:39.620 between people who read 50 shades of gray and they are in they're much more likely to be in an

02:35:44.900 abusive relationship oh yeah also it really got normalized are we saying that that there's innately

02:35:54.740 i had a friend who i got bloodshot from getting choked too hard yeah i was like girl what happened to

02:36:01.620 your fucking eye and she was like oh we did it too hard i'm like what like why why it does interest me

02:36:07.460 like so 50 shades of gray was like one of the best-selling books for is it of all time i don't

02:36:12.420 even know the movie was insanely successful it occurs to me that a lot of women seem to be attracted to

02:36:19.300 these sort of like uh machiavellian dark triad characters and uh it's just something to think

02:36:26.500 about i don't know what's uh what's going on there i think a lot of going on there women have bought into

02:36:33.140 the idea that they are objects you know we have there was a study recently done where 91 percent

02:36:40.900 of men watch porn on a regular basis and 60 percent of women so this is not just a man's issue it's not

02:36:46.580 just men watching porn but so much of porn we say 88 percent has aggression against women in it

02:36:55.140 well when women are watching that what is that teaching you is it okay for someone to be um aggressive to

02:37:01.620 their partner in real life are we promoting that is domestic violence a good thing well absolutely

02:37:08.820 not but in the bedroom you guys when a couple connects on a different level and obviously in

02:37:14.100 moderation you're not gonna be choked out obviously but it's like a little moderately slapping them no

02:37:20.420 not not like kind of a little bit of a tug or a little bit like kind of it's like spices things up

02:37:26.580 not like keep the out of me the thing that we're talking about is and this is how crazy it is is

02:37:34.420 88 percent of porn scenes contained throughout violent aggression uh slapping choking hitting

02:37:38.020 spitting when i read that stat initially i said what violence what violence is important i don't even

02:37:45.780 understand because i had been watching it for so long and you go that's just normal sex that was going

02:37:49.940 on and it how crazy is that just hearing that but then when i stopped watching porn what was amazing is

02:37:55.460 not that it was 50 shades of gray in the bedroom but it was more about power getting off all these

02:38:00.500 different things our whole routine if you will completely changes about love connection and intimacy

02:38:06.180 it was just a beautiful thing just getting to experience that with becca for the first time

02:38:09.700 and we were three four years into our marriage and it's like oh this is what it's supposed to be

02:38:14.180 like this is awesome right here and in college i was one of those people who read 50 shades of

02:38:20.420 gray and i was like you know i can see why people were wanting that because it's like um because it's

02:38:29.220 like i'm viewing i'm you're making it this sexual thing to be treated like an object call it whatever

02:38:37.700 you want but you are making it a sexual thing so then you seek that out and i did seek that out of

02:38:43.220 like hey you know choke me or do these different things and then i was like gosh why do i feel like

02:38:50.980 crap after this i feel like i'm not being respected because i think we're designed to want someone who

02:38:58.820 caresses and cuddles and kisses us tenderly and not slaps us and but you know comes on your face

02:39:06.100 you could get the cuddles after you some women do get the yeah you said that you had lots of icks that

02:39:13.860 men give you we'll ask the whole table on this um what's your list of icks okay let's see

02:39:22.500 bad breath a man with too many bad days bad days too many bad days yeah you know doesn't respect his mom

02:39:29.220 doesn't clean his room and greasy smells bad your mic down um what else i'm kind of drawing a blank

02:39:40.660 here smells bad greasy yeah you know just yeah you know a man like who doesn't work or somebody who

02:39:47.540 like i don't know just stuff like that that's pretty much it yeah i'm kind of like drawing a blank

02:39:54.020 any any other icks you had a list you had a list yeah and i'm like drawing a blank that's pretty much

02:39:59.620 it okay anybody else you have i actually don't believe in x like i think if you love someone

02:40:04.340 enough like you don't get the ick but that that is just like turn off yeah a lazy man a lazy man

02:40:11.460 for sure it's an ick immaturity immaturity okay what about you i think when i lose respect for

02:40:17.540 someone that's when i get the ick she gets the ick okay all right what about you any icks i think

02:40:23.460 being mature immature can i have you tilt your mic down a little bit anything else yep no that's

02:40:29.380 it uh becca what about you any any icks someone who's not willing to have a vulnerable conversation

02:40:36.420 i would give the ick in that situation i thought it was supposed to be like weird things that like

02:40:45.300 you just get like turned off and you get the ick like you like yeah like you put the seatbelt on yeah

02:40:49.220 like these are just like dudes who like anime like seeing their butt crack when you get out the

02:40:53.780 car yeah like anime what's what's going on there what's wrong with that it's just i don't know it's

02:41:00.340 the voices of the anime like the anime characters i'm so confused yeah you know

02:41:04.980 like that's what you're talking about when you're talking like that like i don't want to hear that

02:41:08.260 shit do you is it because perhaps like you view like anime is sort of like a uh nerd alert it's kind

02:41:18.020 of it's maybe a little bit it's so childlike a little like uh maybe you're too old to be

02:41:24.340 watching cartoons and if you play video games too much and you ain't getting paid for it

02:41:29.700 turn off okay you're getting mad at the game turn off yeah if uh okay if the guys play video games you

02:41:36.740 know what i what it occurs too much just too much i think a lot of women well actually just going

02:41:41.700 around the table um do you guys have an issue with a guy who plays video games going around the table

02:41:46.420 no i would play video games with you honestly what about you video games is that an issue

02:41:51.620 i guess it's a problem yeah it's not like yeah it's taken up like oh you'll try a game

02:41:56.660 too it's the metaverse very anti-transhumanism and all that stuff okay all right

02:42:02.340 in moderation it's fine yeah yeah uh if you play more than an hour then that's it more than an hour

02:42:10.660 deal breaker what about you yeah moderation moderation okay what if it's like a super nerdy

02:42:16.340 game though like he's playing hearthstone or like heaven what's that one uh dungeons and dragons

02:42:22.740 let's see he plays world of warcraft right let's say he's got like a level 60

02:42:26.500 i think this is a theme music or something like that no you know like what if he's playing

02:42:38.980 you know currently currently hold on currently world of warcraft it's season of discovery and

02:42:46.420 it's phase two they just launched phase two a couple days ago i don't play video games anymore

02:42:51.300 but i watch twitch streams or whatever and you know it's like season of discovery right so right now the

02:42:56.340 level cap is 40 and people got like multiple alts and shit there's no moragon and shit like you

02:43:01.940 know they got all the new ruins right so people are out there collecting all these new ruins that

02:43:05.860 just released phase so you got to play like seven hours if you want to like speak in a whole different

02:43:10.500 language no but if you like they released it they released phase two of season of discovery of world

02:43:15.860 of warcraft like i think it was on the eighth so people are grinding people are playing like 12 hours

02:43:20.820 in a row so like but you shouldn't like disc like disqualify a guy just because he's playing like

02:43:26.980 10 hours a day because he's trying to play he's trying to raid nomor you know that i can't he's

02:43:33.620 trying to raid he need to be making money off world of warcraft if he playing for 10 hours a day he's

02:43:38.100 trying to play nomoragon like he's trying to get to nomoragon he's trying to raid he's got multiple

02:43:42.980 fucking alts he's got like he's leveling four characters to level 40 he's got a rogue a druid

02:43:48.420 get to work he's got a warlock he's got the fucking mage like and also you know look let's

02:43:53.860 talk classic classic forget these fucking season of discoveries if you're playing classic that's a

02:43:58.900 weight hardcore investment you're gonna have four level 60s me personally back in the day when i

02:44:04.340 played i had four 60s you know you know it's just a crazy thing you sell your world of warcraft

02:44:09.860 account probably five hundred and thirty eight donated two hundred dollars thank you this is why

02:44:15.380 i love brain the farthest he runs is hearthstone dragon dragon flight is the bomb i haven't played

02:44:21.620 hearthstone and i was i was a legend in hearthstone okay if that wasn't that was pretty good reading

02:44:28.660 uh i haven't played hearthstone since like 2019 i i quit video games in 2020 um haven't haven't really

02:44:36.340 played i played fall guy for like fall guys for like 10 hours or something but um yeah i quit i

02:44:41.460 quit video games wait nick pull up my fucking wait sorry i'm not i'm not yelling at you i'm just i'm

02:44:46.820 really passionate about hearthstone if you go into the dropbox folder nick there's my hearthstone

02:44:53.380 where is it hold on i'm trying to see it's in the first dropbox folder it's called the hearthstone

02:44:59.060 screenshot if you can pull that up just so i can flex on these fucking noobs like right now i'm just aoe

02:45:04.820 grunt like this is bro this is like a one two three four five bro this is like a 1v7 i'm

02:45:11.780 fucking 1v7 i'm like a mage like aoe farming it's like arcane explosion fucking uh frost nova

02:45:18.500 we're gonna do cone of cold and a fucking flame strike on cooldown gonna cold snap that

02:45:22.980 shit ice nova again fucking arcane explosion arcane explosion throw out the fucking another

02:45:29.300 cone of cold and a fucking flame strike you guys are done i'm aoe farming you i'm

02:45:34.340 fucking aoe farming you all right i don't know what this means wait nick pull up my

02:45:39.140 pull up my hearthstone shit nick you got it you're talking a different language zoom that

02:45:44.420 shit in zoom that shit in this is me this is me look at that ranked and i i hit a higher rank than

02:45:50.260 that i was like rank 33 in the world look at those wins zoo warlock

02:45:57.060 fucking 16 1623 wins son that's some gangster shit wow come at me bro look at these noobs they

02:46:05.140 probably are you wizard man brian that's what's up did you get paid no that's for

02:46:12.340 i was that was for passion oh okay i was uh i was uh have you got your bag if it makes you happy

02:46:18.260 i see how he makes you would it give you a boner i'd let him do it then if it makes you that happy

02:46:23.780 i'll tell you this when i played hearthstone i would get so fucking tilted playing that that's

02:46:28.580 i don't know if you know what tilted is i would get so tilted sometimes i get nick knows i get

02:46:33.300 tilted is a gamer term for getting frustrated so like tilted you know um i think it's actually

02:46:40.500 originates from people who used to play you know pinball machines they they would if you get

02:46:45.780 frustrated with a pinball machine you'd fucking like tilt it so tilted in video game you get like

02:46:51.460 the you're just losing a bunch of games but you would never get like that excited that you would

02:46:56.500 get a no i would it would ruin my day if i was like would lose lose consecutive games in a row this

02:47:02.340 is why i had to quit video games yeah because i'm not like the type of guy i can't play an hour

02:47:06.340 i got a fucking oh i'm grinding village you'd have a bad day dude i would be if i didn't play i'm not

02:47:15.780 even kidding i did not play world of warcraft i would be a fucking billionaire right now i kid you

02:47:21.060 fucking not maybe not maybe not a billionaire let's see it it takes up a lot of i will tell you

02:47:26.980 if anybody hearthstone is kind of a niche game if hearthstone actually made me smarter i think video

02:47:36.660 games can have an application because hearthstone you gotta like that's some like big brain

02:47:42.820 shit you gotta be thinking like it's almost like chess son and it did actually like make me

02:47:48.340 it was helpful it helped same with world of warcraft it helped with my uh organization time

02:47:53.460 management because like hold on let me fucking if you're playing world of warcraft right like

02:47:58.660 i'm gonna maximize my time like you're gonna min max and shit so here's what you're gonna do right

02:48:03.860 like you're gonna want to make sure like if you're hopping on that flight path that like you're taking

02:48:09.940 the most optimum route like if you're leveling you're not gonna like want to level slowly so you're

02:48:15.060 gonna make sure you're you get the right quests and you're just gonna make sure that if you're

02:48:19.300 gonna go to the city like you do it at the right time the fucking if i'm going to

02:48:22.980 orgrimmar bro i'm getting shit done in orgrimmar bro i'm fucking turning in quests i'm training

02:48:28.420 i'm doing all this shit you know i love a good side quest yeah love a good side quest bro but like

02:48:35.940 honestly the thing i love about doing this podcast is like i'm literally aoe farming twice a week i'm

02:48:42.900 fucking aoe farming aoe farming clips i'm like a mage again cone of cold flame strike

02:48:49.620 fucking ice nova arcane explosion son see and you turn it into something that you can profit off of

02:48:56.820 you know and it like you know it made you organized it's beautiful it's good it's a beautiful thing

02:49:01.700 okay i'm proud of you okay good talk you said you don't play anymore i don't something no video games

02:49:07.540 i'm done with video games but i still never again have you stopped your video game addiction i can

02:49:11.940 still nerd out like how i just did her name jesus that was a lot

02:49:19.460 i would definitely oh sorry okay i would definitely watch you if you were to play like on streaming on

02:49:25.460 twitch like you seem very passionate about it and i would like cheer you on i actually i'm gonna get

02:49:31.940 madison to start playing video games she's gonna start are you sure she's gonna start streaming and then

02:49:38.340 i i've considered just sometimes this is a nice she like your work course yes madison is my slave

02:49:46.660 how did you know um no i've considered sometimes doing the show i'm like bro i just want to play

02:49:52.980 world of warcraft fuck this shit i'm out because sometimes bro we get some characters on this shit

02:49:59.860 have like a live stream where people come and just play world of warcraft oh i've considered so

02:50:04.180 many times after like a just like a grueling show i'm like fuck i just want to stream world

02:50:10.340 of warcraft fuck this shit this is way too much of a headache but um but uh oh so what was the breaking

02:50:15.700 point a month into covet to april 2020 i'm playing playing horde right world of warcraft classic get this

02:50:28.340 shit right i've got four level 60s i'm doing everything for my guild it's a hardcore raiding

02:50:33.380 guild son you know what i'm talking about that's right hardcore fucking raiding guild we're

02:50:37.860 fucking raiding molten core we're crushing that oh fuck i hurt myself we're crushing molten core

02:50:43.220 blackwing layer easy we're all the uh the world bosses you know fucking azargos and

02:50:48.740 fucking lord of course i know that guy of course you know that shit we got that shit on farm all the

02:50:52.980 other guilds are fucking jealous because we're taking up all that world boss loot because we're

02:50:57.300 fucking g's with that shit we got summoners hold on i'm getting really fucking hyped you want to know

02:51:02.580 what happened bro so okay we have here's the thing right we're uh what's the what's the uh zg zg 20

02:51:10.980 wait is it zg zg 20 just came out i think it was phase four just came out nightmare dragons the emerald

02:51:18.100 dragons green dragons right more world bosses right we're on that shit get this i had a couple uh you

02:51:24.580 know what's your favorite loot system in world of warcraft i don't know you don't know okay let me

02:51:30.740 go around the table on this ladies what's the best loot system in world of warcraft so you have

02:51:36.340 you got loot council you have suicide kings you have uh g uh gdkp you have uh dkp you have uh

02:51:44.900 shit soft reserve you have um epgp and then you there's uh i feel like there's one i'm forgetting

02:51:52.020 which one's your favorite doesn't matter anyways cool so we my guild hardcore raiding guild most of

02:52:00.100 them have a loot council now loot camp councils guys can be corrupted right and loot's very important

02:52:06.420 because i'm a fucking dps pumper i want to parse i'm getting those 99 percent parses right

02:52:12.420 fucking epic legendary parses sometimes i'm getting the pink parses you know i'm talking about that's

02:52:17.620 what's up but bro i am getting passed over on loot and there's some terrible loot decisions bruv so

02:52:24.980 finally the i'm the loot council the loot council is fucking corrupt there's corruption with the loot

02:52:30.340 council and i got screwed over too many fucking times and i'm a fucking yo i'm a i'm an asset to

02:52:37.620 this guild how are you gonna fuck me over with loot maybe i'm a loot goblin i'm a loot goblin hold on

02:52:43.860 i got something it's because they were jealous of you man grabs me boys boom ninja loot i got

02:52:53.380 passed over too many times on loot it was not being distributed properly so you know what i just i g

02:53:00.100 quit i g quit the guild i had four 60s and i said i'm out and i just uninstalled the game i uninstalled

02:53:07.460 the game i was tilted because of some loot decision i was like fuck this and they're all probably like

02:53:12.820 fucking friends in real life and stuff so if like you don't really know them no like you know

02:53:17.060 there's like online and world of warcraft it's it's a great game but like there's it's can be a very

02:53:25.380 toxic community online gaming yes especially when like them kids i remember like going to my friend's

02:53:31.620 house and they would like talk on xbox and be like come over let's fight like this is why sometimes

02:53:36.340 and and it's not appropriate but sometimes i'll be like too stern with nick and bro and and nick's

02:53:44.420 a trooper right but like this is like how the leadership like this is i'm used to gaming the gaming

02:53:50.420 world so like i'm used to like thick skin dude i'm so used to just like talking to people in certain

02:53:57.620 ways like i bro i was i was not in the the leadership and the guild leadership again we're the number one

02:54:04.100 guild we're one of the top guilds speed running like speed running okay speed running yeah speed

02:54:12.260 running shit right fucking clearing molten core in like what 30 minutes bro damn gangster

02:54:17.700 shit top 10 and a horn right so

02:54:23.140 but why it gets to a point you're just done but dude if you're in like a hardcore raiding guild that

02:54:28.580 shit's toxic and it you know it kind of rubbed off on me so sometimes i'm toxic to guys i love you

02:54:34.260 nick nick you're the homie i wish you were this actually this is a guild i am running this is my

02:54:40.500 this is this is my guild nick is he's uh he's one of the guild members right nick nick do you play as

02:54:47.300 well he has a tabard i make him wear a tabard every show okay anyways all right okay all right i'm sorry

02:54:53.780 guys well i brought that up because you said you don't drink as well i don't you said if you didn't

02:54:58.660 play you'd be a billionaire and i was wondering you were saying it's stressful running the show

02:55:03.300 obviously building this empire yeah but that whole idea of you know trading one addiction for another

02:55:08.500 that happens a lot because people are going to a video game porn weed alcohol whatever may be for

02:55:13.220 a pain reliever i was um weed i was drinking i was if you pull up teamvulnerable.com you see my

02:55:20.420 before and after photo i look like brendan frazier getting ready for the whale you can pull up and

02:55:24.340 um yeah i want to see uh funny enough i'm the one not you're not nude on there are you who's that

02:55:29.460 uh no okay just making sure he's like an actor you've never seen the whale this is like a really

02:55:33.860 hard stuff but the whole idea of really you know we were talking about it of like you know well

02:55:38.980 they're going to do it anyways well they're going to and it's people are running to a pain reliever

02:55:42.660 for some reason so there's something going on deeper inside so i was just wondering when you said

02:55:47.060 you quit it was a bit of a rage quit but uh the no drinking that's good as well because people

02:55:51.460 change or trade one addiction for another many times and so glad you didn't do that yeah no i've

02:55:56.100 well i've never been uh much of a drinker to begin with uh don't do drugs don't smoke so uh my vice was

02:56:04.820 video games yeah that was my that was my vice uh so uh what are you drinking i you i see you drink

02:56:11.300 some drink oh this is the secret juice yeah you don't drink coffee neither have you seen

02:56:15.940 that is it lean where she's like no no it's not it's uh just i uh sometimes my voice gets hoarse

02:56:22.820 so i have like uh there's like lemon and some honey in there it's a mix of like cashman mj nice it's

02:56:30.820 so great um okay let's get back to we did the x we did the x do i have x do the guys have x yeah

02:56:38.420 guys can have plastic surgery is a big ick for me it's more labia yeah any's you don't like any

02:56:44.820 look i was being a bit hyperbolic uh any's any's are great outies are great so i don't discriminate

02:56:52.100 our pussy is great all labia matter okay what else uh icks i'm trying to think uh quarrelsome women

02:57:02.580 i don't like quarrelsome women paulson what's that quarrelsome proverbs 21 19 better to live in a

02:57:09.300 desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife as someone who not uh someone who argues like a

02:57:16.980 bitchy woman oh my god i got the trash

02:57:21.380 pretty much why did you do this ryan do that why'd you play video games for six hours instead

02:57:26.500 of throwing out the trash ryan pretty much um trying to think if there's anything else i like

02:57:33.540 really uh i don't like ego i don't like people with whether they're men or women i don't like

02:57:38.020 egotistical people so i like more like down to earth flannel donated 100 dollars thank you i am

02:57:44.420 brixton's flannel i am wadded up in the back of the subaru he disowns he traded me in for a

02:57:50.580 that's true brixton is a closeted lesbian yep please help me i am sad oh we'll make you there

02:57:58.980 you go brian's flannel i'm a closeted lesbian who's brixton i'm a i mean brygson is it true

02:58:07.460 well i date women so if you're a man aren't you a lesbian

02:58:11.700 that doesn't make any sense mike no makes sense i mean if i i suppose like if i identified as a

02:58:19.540 woman i would be a lesbian yeah okay there what's with the flannel what yeah why is he saying he's

02:58:25.540 brian's flannel i wear why not brian's sweatshirt yeah be brian's sweatshirt he wants me to bring

02:58:30.900 the flannel back where's your like bright colored clothing 500 he'll bring this i knew you were coming

02:58:35.300 tonight and i knew you just couldn't resist the flannel so i had to tone it down

02:58:40.660 yeah tone it down what is that the brawny the paper towel guy no no it's winter time it's winter

02:58:45.700 time so i'm wearing uh you know keep it warm so you have to put it in the wall keep it warm uh

02:58:50.580 last last things with andrea here from our notes um and i think you guys doubled on this you said how

02:58:56.900 guys always downgrade and cheat on us with ugly ass females why do men always cheat on their girlfriends

02:59:04.500 with ugly ass females yes like yes they downgrade like and i feel like men

02:59:10.580 they always downgrade you know like as like when they're cheating and stuff it's really weird and i

02:59:15.460 think it's just because their self-esteem you know so like personally speaking i got cheated on with

02:59:21.700 like two girls that were like brandon fraser the whale i'm talking like they should be on my 600 pound

02:59:29.700 life and and then it was weird because it's like how you gonna call me fat and then you go with these

02:59:35.140 huge women and stuff like it's crazy and then my other ex too he would call me fat and then he

02:59:41.060 cheated on me with the pregnant girl not saying anything to you you know but it's like when i mean

02:59:46.100 you literally when you're big like you hold i'm not saying like you're fat but like and then yeah he

02:59:50.900 cheated on me with the pregnant girl he wasn't the daddy and i went through his uh phone and he had

02:59:56.340 sex with her without a condom on and then i called her and i was like you do know he's still

03:00:00.100 fucking me too right and you're pregnant with a baby and you don't know if i'm fucking other people

03:00:05.220 and what if i gave him something and then he gave it to your baby and yeah i was like girl you a hoe

03:00:10.100 like i can't believe you just like if you have sex with a man when you're pregnant and it's not your

03:00:16.100 baby daddy without a condom you are a hoe and i hope i hope she's watching it i hope my ex is watching

03:00:22.340 it because like i'm gonna light his ass up every time so yeah i mean that's about it i've just noticed

03:00:28.340 like you know the yeah the the men cheat cheat down yes well i wouldn't say date down but cheat

03:00:35.060 down they always cheat down okay well question for the panel here uh would you prefer your boyfriend

03:00:40.420 cheat on you with a girl who is hotter or uglier than you you might you might acknowledge that they

03:00:45.700 always cheat cheat with women who are i would have them cheat on me uglier because it'd make me feel

03:00:50.260 better if she was a badass bitch i'd be like damn i need to look like her but you're kind of happy then

03:00:55.780 that they cheat on you with somebody who's no i'd still but i'd still be well you're still upset

03:00:59.700 but yeah but i'm like i i feel like you know here going around the table starting with you

03:01:04.580 honestly someone uglier and then you can kind of justify clowning oh you can clown on him there

03:01:09.860 you go what about you someone hotter hotter hotter okay interesting hard to find but harder what

03:01:16.500 about you probably uglier uglier okay all right uglier uglier okay neither but if you had okay all

03:01:28.180 right all right i think it's the case though you know it's like you know it may it kind of makes

03:01:35.620 sense you know why they cheated with uglier women you know yep they're available yeah they're available

03:01:42.340 they're ready and you shouldn't cheat you shouldn't cheat they're easier but it makes sense yeah

03:01:46.260 just look at it they ain't get no attention that much all right we got we're moving on to hazel

03:01:51.700 here hazel you said the next boyfriend of yours got obsessed with you followed you everywhere broke

03:01:56.900 your windows slasher tires because i wouldn't get back with him and he would call you crying every

03:02:02.340 day why don't you tell us a bit about that yeah um that was pretty immature of him but i was with

03:02:09.780 them for about six months um it was kind of during a break from my previous relationship yeah so it

03:02:17.860 wasn't that serious but i ended up getting back with my ex and he was very upset about it and so yeah

03:02:23.540 he pretty much slashed my tires broke my windows he wouldn't leave me alone for a long time slashing

03:02:29.780 tires and breaking windows has any girl here ever slashed a good ex's tires uh somebody's tires ever

03:02:36.820 gone i've thought about it i don't want to go to jail you've spilled some swirled someone what's

03:02:44.500 the sound swirled it's like when you like to throw a drink in that oh throw a drink that's fine like

03:02:50.580 in glee with the slushies yeah i've never watched glee but yeah yeah loving hip-hop good times okay any jade you

03:03:02.260 slashed a tire i didn't i did something a lot worse than slashing my tire so he bought me a bmw

03:03:09.300 and then he cheated on me with one of my best friends and i totaled the bmw on purpose just and

03:03:15.540 he's actually still paying for the car too okay because it was in his name it wasn't his name

03:03:21.380 yeah so he would have taken it then yeah fuck him good job good job wait he was cheating on you with one

03:03:27.460 of my like closest best friends and so you wrecked his car that he bought me yeah but it was in his

03:03:33.940 name so was there insurance on the car there was gap however it was an older bmw so it actually no

03:03:41.620 he did not get gap so he they sold the car at auction for like two grand

03:03:46.500 good job proud of you yeah that's some that's i don't know about that

03:03:56.020 no it's honestly like it's one of like the worst things like i i regret it a lot she regrets it

03:04:01.380 i regret it would i do it again no but in the moment i think i was just so heated and on top

03:04:05.780 of that i was like only 20 so i was super immature how'd you total it i i don't know if i want to say

03:04:11.540 it in front of everybody because like insurance is going to come after me yeah no i'm not going to

03:04:16.180 you can tell us after i literally like what if i was just hit maybe i was yeah yeah she was just

03:04:22.900 hit she had an accident geico leave me alone please uh what's it when was it your 23 statute of

03:04:29.540 limitation stop stop okay all right uh well maybe we can get into that a bit more later we have lily

03:04:37.860 here lily you describe yourself as a liberal feminist oh i was just answering the questions i didn't

03:04:45.860 really know what liberal meant but i was like i guess but i haven't voted you have uh what i

03:04:51.700 haven't devoted oh you haven't voted no i haven't voted wait are you able to do like other british

03:04:59.060 accents like can you do uh yeah you're looking fucking wait question can you do do you know can

03:05:05.220 you do received pronunciation what does that mean you don't know isn't that's what it's called right

03:05:10.260 received pronunciation i just don't understand what me chat wait wait chat that's that's like

03:05:15.140 how the royals talk right rp received oh yeah isn't that what it's called wait chat one in the chat it's

03:05:21.220 called received pronunciation right yeah chat it's a it's rp right received pronunciation hello chat chat

03:05:29.540 chat chat chat chat chat anybody nobody knows do you give us okay whatever all right uh

03:05:38.260 where were we okay you're you call yourself a liberal feminist um are we yes right yeah well

03:05:45.460 i but you haven't voted no and i guess my definition of feminist is like you want equality

03:05:52.180 and that's kind of all right i think i think we're gonna get into the feminist stuff later but i'm

03:05:58.820 not like like yeah of course so hard on your twitter it states that you love being a sluza yeah what's

03:06:07.940 a sluza a slag slurt 304 sluza sluza is this like a british term or i don't know i just know it's like

03:06:20.100 i'm guessing it's a british term if you guys don't know it but yeah and you do so you do you

03:06:24.660 do porn correct okay i'm just curious how many men have you done scenes with do you know do you

03:06:29.700 keep count no i couldn't tell you do you have a estimate a range um it's in the triple figures

03:06:37.940 triple figures yeah okay yeah triple triple digits like in different men yeah yeah yeah okay got it um

03:06:47.380 um how many because in your pre-show notes you say that you're too much of a slut to date anyone

03:06:54.980 this is not my words your words you said you're too much having too much fun being a slag to date

03:07:02.820 anyone okay um and so you're not dating any civilians no no as they're called no i'm not taking anyone

03:07:11.460 hostage just yet okay um do you i mean how long have you been involved in the adult industry three

03:07:18.340 years three years during that time have you dated any civilians yes um but only for like six months

03:07:26.580 six months do you tell them up front like because i'm sure like you got to bars and clubs you meet a

03:07:32.500 dude at a bar in a club you may do you have dating apps maybe it really depends but my dating app when

03:07:39.380 i don't think i've got really many dating apps anymore but when i did i set them to very um

03:07:44.500 conservative photos and like um wait you'd send them conservative no no like set it so it didn't like

03:07:51.540 really attract like i wasn't posting like me like yeah it was just like okay like a selfie me with my dog

03:07:59.060 like more conservative photos and i didn't outright say like what i do so but you would because you

03:08:04.900 also said and i don't know if you said this okay you also said you've never not what on the first date

03:08:11.860 i've i've never not shagged someone on the first date so every time you've been on the first date

03:08:17.220 i can't help myself okay and are you you've dated while you've for the three years you've been

03:08:24.740 doing porn you've dated during that period correct yeah like i've gone on dates not okay but so like

03:08:30.500 would you disclose to them that you're involved in porn not all of them now

03:08:39.940 i okay look i mean you're just there's not i suppose there's an argument to be especially if

03:08:44.900 you just meet someone for one day and you shag and then you like you know you don't talk anymore

03:08:49.780 look i suppose you could make the argument that like you know you you're not there's certainly

03:08:56.020 no legal obligation certainly for you to disclose that you do porn from from my view and perhaps maybe

03:09:02.660 a lot of men also would agree with me maybe the chat can weigh in here i would hope if i met a girl

03:09:09.460 on a dating app or in person whatever that she would disclose to me if she does porn so that i could so

03:09:18.020 that i could rightly disqualify her here's the thing for me like even do you find it embarrassing

03:09:24.660 like if you were to sleep with someone and find out that they were afterwards a porn star would you

03:09:28.980 be like embarrassed and why would why would you not tell them that you're a porn star just because

03:09:37.380 well sometimes like i just meet them for a day and i don't want to answer all the questions but i mean

03:09:41.940 that's one of the first questions what do you do yeah you should go i work online it's really you would

03:09:46.740 so you don't met pardon you would omit omission what does that mean so you wouldn't maybe i just

03:09:53.300 wouldn't admit it like i'd just be like oh i you know i i work online it's really boring oh my gosh

03:09:59.540 but what would cause you to want to do that instead of just saying this is what i did because i sometimes

03:10:03.860 i don't want to go through the whole conversation and like obviously people look at you so much

03:10:08.740 differently and i just don't want to go through the flannel donated 100 lily would be a 10 but

03:10:15.380 she's been ran through more than the chicago bears defensive line so she's a two i'm gonna fix her

03:10:21.700 i can fix her i got it we're gonna make her a trad not not my trad wife but we'll make her a trad wife

03:10:28.740 it's a trad i actually should do a segment we should chat what do you think we should do a

03:10:33.220 segment on the show where the only fans girls would come on we actually push them to like you do like

03:10:38.420 stop doing no not we we we politely push you right to get out of the adult entertainment industry

03:10:50.820 i'm not gonna lie i don't think there's anything that would really what's that i don't think there's

03:10:54.740 anything like that would really that would push me yeah push you what to not to do to not to do it

03:11:00.820 yeah what if i told you that yeah i can't think of anything actually never mind yeah i can't really

03:11:07.940 help but wanting a relationship with someone i've been in when i was in that relationship he said

03:11:14.660 he was like he wants me to stop she says she's she wants to date there's many there's many people

03:11:20.260 that are in relationships that do only fans and porn and also there are a lot of guys who are like

03:11:25.380 into it like wait but let's i do want to stay on the topic so you said that you would not disclose

03:11:30.900 to like a civilian oh that i mean look uh i i don't know if you have like some whether it's an ethical

03:11:38.100 moral obligation to disclose but i know for me that i would want a girl to disclose to me if

03:11:43.860 she does porn so that i could make the decision of whether i'd want to pursue her

03:11:51.460 or not well like further down the the line like yeah but you say you sleep with the men on the first

03:11:56.660 date and perhaps like for me it's even if and i'm not interested in casual sex like there's for me i'm

03:12:02.100 not interested in sleep sleeping with a girl once and never talking to her again that's pointless to me

03:12:07.060 um but even if i was inclined to do that i wouldn't even want to have casual sex with a woman who's

03:12:13.220 promiscuous or who's done porn or who has a high body count because those things are pretty much

03:12:18.740 deal breakers for me yeah so i don't really go on dates with men that are like i i i mean to be fair

03:12:26.020 we don't really talk about it that much before the date but like if someone's asking me on a first date

03:12:29.940 like i mean i don't think i've ever been on the first date someone's been like what's your body count

03:12:33.940 or like i i hate slizzers slizzers yeah right and um i i do think uh nickelodeon donated 100

03:12:45.380 a guy you just told you he's 100 plus women online is you first concern what his job is

03:12:52.980 or how healthy he and his semen are nickelodeon that's that's a pretty good point i mean one thing

03:12:59.220 that comes with like the porn industry is like the uh the health yeah and look i the the typical

03:13:05.300 argument i hear on this is well we get tested every seven days or whatever 14 days whatever it is i

03:13:11.620 don't know if there's different standards in the uk no it's same i do yeah and perhaps it's the case

03:13:17.060 that the incidence rate of like gonorrhea or chlamydia or whatever the primary things that they're testing for

03:13:23.620 uh is lower in the porn industry but what's higher in the porn industry is hpv and herpes

03:13:28.820 which they don't test for and if they did test for it and if having a positive test for those things

03:13:34.900 precluded you from participating in porn the entire porn industry would collapse because most of these

03:13:39.860 porn actors have herpes well i i do this is my understanding i do a full panel it includes like

03:13:46.740 everything it includes herpes yeah well they take they take blood they have some oh yeah they so

03:13:52.100 they do also HIV yes that's the one i forgot they make me swab my ass um saw my throat but like yeah

03:14:01.540 they swab you no no is it like you go and yeah but they don't really okay but so you you get like

03:14:07.860 a do you get an email or you get a yeah okay do they show anything for herpes or hpv really they show

03:14:13.940 everything yeah they don't they don't test my understanding and we've had some other women in

03:14:18.500 the porn industry don't entertainment industry i my understanding is they don't check for herpes

03:14:24.260 i'm pretty sure the primary care yeah because i well no no no no no okay i just want to be very

03:14:29.460 precise here so there's the industry mandated std testing my understanding for that they don't check

03:14:36.980 for herpes and hpv now if you go to your doctor and you're in the porn industry and you want a full panel

03:14:42.740 yeah everyone that i collab with i make sure that they have a full panel yeah okay but but like

03:14:48.660 okay the the porn industry like if you're doing only fans that's a bit different i think it's

03:14:54.500 uh i'm not on porn but if you're like in the fucking if you're in uh the san fernando valley

03:15:00.580 and you're shooting like traditional porn and you want to participate in that way i'm pretty sure

03:15:06.820 they're not i'm like 100 sure you have to have a full panel i would check okay all right well uh

03:15:12.580 uh but i've heard different things stis are so much more common i feel like in just um in the real

03:15:20.020 world yeah because well people are fucking for sure like yeah definitely even and also what's to say when

03:15:25.300 i fuck these guys on the dates i'm not using protection well i mean you can certain stds even if

03:15:31.700 you're using a condom you can still uh transfer them transfer you know but like i said that's just

03:15:41.540 the risk of life like that's just there's a crazy stat the average age of a porn star who dies their

03:15:47.700 life expectancy 37 and there was a crazy one that uh but general population who does ecstasy eight percent

03:15:55.700 porn industry 50 and i'm curious what your thoughts are on that joshua broom former porn star

03:16:02.580 male performer of the year type thing he knew 35 people who self-deleted themselves right and why do

03:16:09.860 you think that is being and having the experience from your perspective well i think obviously sometimes

03:16:17.220 people go into porn you know like mia khalifa and like people have recently come out that it used to

03:16:22.500 be very very unsafe in terms of like they didn't protect their performers and stuff like that but

03:16:27.700 like i mean for all the shoots i've been on it's all very very safe and like everyone is like are you

03:16:34.180 okay are you consenting to this they give you a huge list on like what you want to do what you don't

03:16:41.220 want to do and stuff like that do you shoot here in the us or in the uk i have shot here yes okay good

03:16:48.740 times well okay so um right now you're not dating civilian men no because you say you're a you're a

03:16:56.900 sluza yes you're you love being a sluza yeah i love you i'm pussy to be fair like i'm bi okay all right

03:17:04.980 you go both ways all right you never not on the first date um wait okay question for you since i mean

03:17:11.220 this is related to being a sluza we're gonna do we're gonna do all right okay how many men have

03:17:19.620 you had sex with in the past three days three days three days three three men yeah okay past week

03:17:29.060 i will because i've been here i've been working every single day except from saturday what day is

03:17:33.700 it it's tuesday yeah and but then i um went to like um a party and sorry a sex party yeah but it

03:17:43.300 was only people were tested um so when was the party uh saturday and it was a sex party well no no no it

03:17:51.380 was someone's party but there's a sex it was a sex party i mean people were having sex it was a sex

03:17:56.820 party okay people signed the hot tub tits out yeah but um yeah did you have did you have sex at the

03:18:02.740 party yes how many people did you have two people yes two men uh girl and boy girl and boy past week

03:18:10.180 how many every day of the week and then yeah with a new a new guy yeah past month oh mass see i was in

03:18:20.580 obviously i've come from england um and i didn't really work much in england so probably like i'm

03:18:28.820 gonna say like virgin on like 17 past month okay 2024 so that's where we're a month and a half yeah

03:18:38.340 this is math i know maths maths

03:18:43.540 i don't know i'm i think like what day is it tuesday the 13th i'd guess like

03:18:51.380 25 30 i don't know 25 what about how was 2023 looking

03:18:59.700 i'm asking you're just trying to work out how many people i've slept pretty much

03:19:05.940 no but like i didn't i don't work with that

03:19:12.020 22 23 what are we what are we working with uh honestly couldn't tell you i'd guess hundreds

03:19:18.740 i'd get i'd guess i guess like a hundred i don't know i don't have to like if you had

03:19:26.500 the average like in a average week how many new men were you but then i i here i work with so many

03:19:32.100 more people because there's so many more people to work with but there i'm working with the same

03:19:35.540 people in the uk yes okay but when you're here there's it's like do do do everything like

03:19:40.420 how often do you come to the states well this is uh my second time how long are you um like

03:19:47.300 allowed to stay here i'm curious three months so like are you on a tourist visa do the math on that

03:19:53.220 so i'm uh i'm now i'm on holiday she's on oh okay yes don't please don't send me that jingland

03:20:02.980 wait okay 2023 so how wait let's i want to do a breakdown between like men you've shot scenes

03:20:09.940 with and then civilian men see when i'm shooting with people like guys i'm not really sleeping with

03:20:16.020 guys um civilian guys but you i mean you said you've been doing this for three years and you

03:20:22.180 said during that time you have been but i haven't i haven't always shot with guys oh so you'll have

03:20:27.700 break periods yeah yeah and also like there's no need for me to like always be shooting with

03:20:33.060 different guys right here it's great you recycle yeah you recycle okay 2022 how was that looking oh

03:20:39.060 mate no i wasn't doing um boy girl i just go girl wait i'm curious so you're 22 right yes

03:20:47.540 started this so you got you got into the industry at 19 18 18 okay it was just like just i was kind of

03:20:56.020 grid one motorsports donated 100 does the sluza bang multiple dudes in one day do any finishing her as a

03:21:04.740 man the one thing you never want to think about is another dude being able to ask how his like

03:21:09.860 dates stop it get some help so if obviously stop it get some help if i'm having freeze like with

03:21:18.740 i've had like free since with guys and so obviously i'm shagging two guys in one day but if you're

03:21:23.060 talking about like one guy and then the next guy yes but the first guy i will get him to like spunk on

03:21:27.700 my face and not to to what spook spunk spunk spunk oh okay yeah yeah okay um my face not not in me

03:21:37.220 wait good to know so wait i am i'm so thoughtful you know so you said you said you do you've done

03:21:42.580 threesomes how many threesomes have you done do you think dude how how long is a piece of string

03:21:49.140 how many if you had to like give a range over 100 threesomes no no no okay no not i'm not that much

03:22:00.820 of a slide because i i saw a clip from some you know we do some pre-show research you said there's

03:22:06.980 a hot tub 10 guys story did yeah that wasn't for a video that was just personal life but did you

03:22:12.500 all 10 of the um like bits so like soaking up hand job and they were all tested no this was before i

03:22:24.260 did for um like boy girl with is the stuff you're doing now um more extreme from when you're 18 to

03:22:32.900 now where you're at or is less extreme no it's so much more safe and like people talk so much more

03:22:38.020 openly about like your wants your needs like i said like you know you could literally be like i

03:22:42.900 don't want to do any of this just like i want it soft i want it nice like wait so in actual sex

03:22:48.340 we don't actually talk about that in the 10 guy hot tub thing how many yeah this is on the family

03:22:54.580 ski holiday how many you yeah had sex with a couple of them or all of them uh a couple of them in

03:23:01.380 and was this a group thing or like yeah you'd take one come back to the hot tub there was a hot tub

03:23:07.860 and there was also a sauna and i was like having sex with a couple of them in the sauna and then

03:23:12.340 others in the sauna i feel like it's kind of dangerous it well you know it wasn't actually i

03:23:17.780 i saw it almost daily and i don't want to have sex in the sauna it's high hot and it really wasn't

03:23:24.980 that bad i don't know it was because we're skiing it was really cold so it's not that bad okay well so

03:23:28.980 okay um how many threesomes have you had oh if you had to give the range not that many not that

03:23:37.220 many oh okay i thought you were i'd say like 20. any foursomes yeah any five sums one any six sums

03:23:46.580 no seven sums eight sums i don't really i don't really count i'm not like okay you know i mean i'm

03:23:54.180 just i'm just to grid one motorsports question how many in a 24-hour period like how many in a 24-hour

03:24:01.860 period nick um four on separate occasions in like a one day this was one evening okay and it wasn't

03:24:11.220 group sex it was one no no this was separate no one of them was a threesome oh one was a threesome

03:24:17.060 and then with a girl and a boy and then the others were all and then it was so it was one guy it was a

03:24:22.340 threesome with a guy and girl and then one guy and then one guy yeah i see okay and this was for

03:24:29.220 shooting scenes or was this like a sex party type thing it was a what it was for fun it was for fun

03:24:35.220 yes was it like a swingers thing whoa it was like a sex club it's horny and what was it so were you in

03:24:43.060 college he knew i was fucking no it was actually on holiday you were on holiday it was in ibiza

03:24:48.660 okay sorry i don't know if that gets any context was that isn't that an island and yes proper like

03:24:56.180 party holiday island yeah yeah yeah is that in spain spain okay uh so was a dj involved no i feel like

03:25:06.580 that's just like djs and shit i think whatever um wait so what about so four in one night that's the most

03:25:14.340 yeah except from obviously like but that wasn't sex like with the 10 guys right wait so the hot tub

03:25:22.260 thing you had sex with all 10 no that's what i'm saying i didn't have sex with all 10 the four in one

03:25:27.380 night was all sex wait so okay give give me a breakdown of i want a detailed breakdown of the hot

03:25:33.220 tub thing was that also on vacation i was quite drunk so yes holiday holiday holiday goes down goes down

03:25:40.580 on holiday i meet this bunch of guys and they're like come back to us we have a hot tub it's just

03:25:47.300 you and my friend was also there but she uh her boyfriend was friends with them and so she had gone

03:25:53.940 um already like in in another bedroom with her boyfriend so so it was just me in the hot tub with

03:26:00.500 all these guys and so okay i want like a chronological order of what went down with the story i was just

03:26:07.860 making jokes like this is how you start out like you just start making jokes you're like how wouldn't

03:26:12.420 it be funny if you're all shagged right now it's a good one good joke and then like we started to

03:26:20.660 definitely get into it you know like people like touching my thighs and i'm like yeah my do my tits

03:26:25.940 look nice and people like filling me up she belongs to the streets okay and then i'm filling them up and

03:26:31.780 then like you know but but like give me a play by play do you want like me to film this next time

03:26:38.980 do you want no no but i want to see you want the visual yeah i want the scope yeah i don't know it

03:26:46.660 was exactly 10 guys that was kind of like a rough i just know it was a load of guys so it could have

03:26:51.860 been more than 10 guys i but yeah but i don't were there any other girls no it was it was you my friend

03:26:59.620 and but she did she did yeah so you're there with 10 dudes some of them you know so like but what is

03:27:06.020 the progression because it said it sounds like you were sexually involved with some of them to varying

03:27:11.940 degrees so i want like i want like a detailed yeah play by play so then obviously when you start

03:27:20.580 touching each other up people get horny and they they start to get hard-ons and they're feeling your tits

03:27:26.980 and like kissing your tits and then you start kissing down their body and kissing their cocks

03:27:33.220 and then like you know the guys there some of the guys are sat there watching some of the guys are

03:27:40.260 you know one's getting a bit of a handy the other one like kissing him and stuff like that and then

03:27:46.980 and then it was more like towards the end of it hold on one hundred dollars

03:27:53.380 syphilis was deadly until penicillin hiv killed one hundreds of thousands because of its stealth

03:27:59.700 transmission the next deadly std pandemic will come oh i pray east end girl reforms before it arrives

03:28:07.300 oh doc vanablis he's a doctor here syphilis was deadly until penicillin hiv all right east

03:28:15.300 what does that mean east end i don't know that's a song or something um thank you doc vanablis appreciate

03:28:20.420 it and by the way i actually want to credit you for being uh open about talking some of these things

03:28:25.540 because some people would may not feel comfortable being so forthcoming and sharing this sort of stuff so

03:28:30.420 i certainly give you uh credit for your honesty um so okay hot tub to does a dozen a baker's dozen

03:28:38.740 maybe um how many of them did you have intercourse with two two and then but then like how many of

03:28:50.260 them like i don't know like i guess like four or five four or five like touched up like hand job or

03:28:58.260 like a handy or like and then so so two guys you had intercourse with yeah because they were all

03:29:03.620 like they were like oh like let's go to the sauna and i was like yeah and then what did any how many bjs

03:29:10.900 were were were given i you know i was pretty drunk but i'd guesstimate like three or four through in a

03:29:21.060 and does that count like is that so is it six six like did the guys who also had sex did they also

03:29:28.980 was there also the the bj too what is no no i've counted them into the number so those are different

03:29:37.620 so like when i say five four or five i've counted them in to the bj count does that make sense

03:29:45.540 sort of i'm like losing my mind sort of okay um

03:29:55.300 is that a good enough like visual representation of what happened but it was really fun trip and

03:30:02.740 i feel like don't take this the wrong way i feel like that just

03:30:05.380 that story has to preclude you from like 90 percent of men i'm sorry i'm sorry mind that

03:30:16.020 like it doesn't offend me that people don't want to date me like that's totally their decision and

03:30:20.900 it and that's you know that's fair for you yeah yeah exactly but like obviously i don't want to date

03:30:25.860 guys that aren't into it do your parents know these stories no they don't obviously i'm not like sat at

03:30:31.540 the dining table mom dad guess what i got up to you today if they found this podcast how would they

03:30:36.420 react you know what i tell them to stay off the internet mom and dad and i actually want to add

03:30:42.660 like and i'm not like i know it's kind of reacting while you're telling that story

03:30:47.620 like i put a lot of i put some of the blame on the men there too because like as a guy i would be

03:30:55.380 so uncomfortable in that situation like it's just that's so weird that's so like i don't know chat

03:31:04.660 like that's so weird i don't as a guy to like

03:31:10.900 i don't know like seeing your buddies like i don't want to be in vicinity of my buddies like getting hand

03:31:18.740 jobs that's kind of like sus it's can i say is it kind of is it kind of who you are it might be a

03:31:28.900 little uh a little effect if i can avoid saying a certain word it might be uh is that was that

03:31:37.300 rainbow yeah i don't know it's just like i blame like i would there's no need to put like a label on

03:31:45.460 anything like we're just having fun but i never like i don't know are these your boys like how

03:31:52.900 how are you like i don't think it's considered gay at all it's like no it's kind of i didn't think it

03:31:59.540 was gay i thought it was really all jokes aside i'm a cyber security open source intel expert you

03:32:03.700 don't own anything you post and i'm not a blank fiend sorry the tts doesn't come through if there's

03:32:09.300 any like censored words it won't read it are you prepared to explain mega fellatio and dp to your

03:32:14.260 kids what is mega fellatio i don't even know what that is mega fellatio what is like i think that's

03:32:19.540 like a mega blow job that's like fellatio is where you self-suck on yourself that is it i'm like pretty

03:32:26.420 sure fellatio is like self i mean i'm googling this look away manny where you like suck yourself

03:32:35.140 what the like foreplay i don't know what a mega it's just like it's pretty sure fellatio is where

03:32:40.260 you like suck yourself off how do you even do that i don't know people who were like people

03:32:44.580 are some people are probably like very flexible there was like a show on where it was like this

03:32:49.220 god and he was i could suck my tits oh what's going on tonight okay welcome guys welcome guys wait so

03:33:08.500 okay uh uh uh i just i i don't get like how can you be i i don't know can i ask a question yeah of

03:33:21.060 course like we need to hear more from i don't know i don't mean this in a mean way but does sex have

03:33:27.940 any meaning for you see i actually put this in my thing i was like i don't think it's that deep

03:33:34.100 personally i mean like you can obviously have deep sex but i don't think having sex is deep

03:33:40.260 like most for the most part my second question i given my line of work i'm very intrigued by like

03:33:46.260 the i would say very negative side effects of the sexual revolution and like women's sexual

03:33:50.340 promiscuity because i think women bond differently with their partners when they have sex whereas men

03:33:55.940 they can like have sex with a bunch of women and there's no emotional attachment even from like a

03:33:59.540 chemical level do you not feel like attached ie like if you have sex with a guy and you don't

03:34:06.260 hear back from him or he ghosts you like does that hurt you at all or does sex just not mean anything to

03:34:11.700 you personally like i've heard of this like that girls get this kind of like hormone release or something

03:34:16.260 like that yeah but personally in my experience not not really like obviously sometimes you're like oh

03:34:21.780 i fancy that guy but like especially in work it's very like it's not real sex like it's very

03:34:27.700 work so do you think that the sex that you have done in your work life has maybe changed the way

03:34:32.180 you perceive sex in your personal life you know what i was being a whore before i started only fans

03:34:37.940 anyway and so not hugely but i i guess to some degree yeah definitely but i i'm like i don't know

03:34:45.540 so i see it's more like just an exchange like it's not it's not like oh i love this guy feelings like

03:34:52.980 it's more like did you always view sex like that even like from the first time you had sex or did it

03:34:57.060 used to mean something to you it used to mean something like when i changed um i guess when

03:35:02.580 i broke up my first boyfriend that was just really horny and like just wanted to talk about

03:35:08.500 and then that's kind of when like the downfall happened but the first time i was like i wanted to

03:35:14.260 kind of like wait a bit more but and then i was just like oh it's just not that deep

03:35:19.140 and just kind of fucked around for the most part

03:35:24.820 uh uh yeah sorry sorry uh wait so uh what were we talking about

03:35:32.260 oh yeah yeah of course you're telling us about like how many civilians you've

03:35:36.580 wait hold on okay okay hold on wait and you went to uni right

03:35:40.260 oh i actually dropped out of uni to do what i do now flannel donated one hundred dollars

03:35:46.180 jesus mega fellation equals s-ing all the d's for clarification uh okay thank you brixton's

03:35:53.300 flannel appreciate the clarification there mega felicio never heard of that thank you

03:35:58.660 um it's for the books oh uni you went to uni yes i don't know if i saw this from one of your

03:36:05.860 clips you said you had a lot of sex at uni yeah loads well it's so funny because like i feel like

03:36:12.100 i was more of a whore then than i am now because like now i do it for work so it's like i don't

03:36:17.700 need to be about all the time huh what was the sex education from your parents from childhood from

03:36:26.340 not really any sexual experiences yeah not really any i feel they just told me like don't have sex

03:36:33.860 until you're like old but that was about it they didn't teach me anything about it no wait so okay

03:36:40.100 when you say you and you were in uni for four years or did you no no no i dropped out to do what i do

03:36:44.900 now how long were you doing uni one or two years i went to once like one one um lesson and that was

03:36:51.380 that was right when you were 18 right yes like as soon as you finished or after the summer yeah so

03:36:56.100 when i finished what do you call it is a grade school what do you call it in the uk some people go to

03:37:00.820 um a levels do a levels but i went to college because i am stupid oh so there's university and

03:37:07.300 then there's college no no no okay so you go school um you finish at 16 and then it's rather you do a

03:37:14.180 levels or you do b-tech at college and that's what i did b-tech at college and then is that what you call

03:37:19.940 uni is that uni no no no and then and then you do up two years or however long it takes you and

03:37:26.340 so you said you were you were more promiscuous when you were in uni than you are now yeah probably

03:37:32.900 um so what did that look like okay your first week of uni your first week of uni what did it look like

03:37:39.380 just a lot of shagging like how much shagging give us give us some deets give us some numbers well

03:37:44.340 i was there with my best friend and we would like tag team guys so if they were best friends

03:37:49.780 we would be like right well you take him and i'll take him and we would always foot best friends like

03:37:54.980 that was um the kind of okay wait so okay you like first week what are we looking at um yeah probably

03:38:05.620 like every night i went out i'd come home with a guy every night yeah and that's where i had my first

03:38:10.820 five sim and first three sim wait your first week of your first week of uni no it was like

03:38:16.500 your first semester yeah so basically because i only did one i went to one lesson but i i stayed at

03:38:21.700 uni i didn't tell my parents that i'd started only fans and just stayed in the accommodation but didn't

03:38:25.700 go to any of the lessons wait so you took one lesson and then you started right it's time to be a

03:38:31.540 degenerate and start any fans okay and so you said your first semester of uni uh almost at were you

03:38:38.180 going out partying yeah yeah it was every night like every almost every night yeah every night

03:38:42.660 or almost no no almost almost five five nights a week fair to say yeah and then when i when i wasn't

03:38:47.780 going out i was texting guys and so every single night you went out you would have sex yeah yeah

03:38:54.660 almost that was like that was like our intention we'd be like right i can't wait to go out tonight

03:38:58.980 and find some like fit friends to fuck and like well who you know we'd always say who's better we're

03:39:04.100 gonna end up in tonight and so you said you had a fivesome yeah with four guys no it was two guys

03:39:11.540 and three girls how does that even work okay cool and then you had a three you had a couple threesomes

03:39:16.740 too during uni yeah okay how long were you you're in uni for four months uh i think i stayed in the

03:39:22.740 accommodation for about six months it was like free accommodation away from home where i could do only

03:39:27.140 fans in the privacy of having my own night room okay and also like it was great because then i could

03:39:32.500 fuck a load of eyes because i wasn't living at home anymore right can i jump in just because i

03:39:37.940 don't know that story it'll still be there and not to be the wet blanket not to be the whatever but

03:39:43.700 it is so hard listening to it because it sounds like it's a nice ski resort you're there hot tub sauna

03:39:49.780 whole bit it was a resort type situation and i'm literally thinking about my two sons you know we're

03:39:57.220 going to play in the pool we got the daughter on the way we got all this stuff and it's like

03:40:00.500 if they were to see something like that oh it wasn't it was a private like house yeah thinking

03:40:08.100 about how just on that scenario though like let's just say we walk by me and my three kids and they

03:40:15.220 saw that how would that make you feel it was no it wasn't well i think she stated that yeah it was

03:40:19.780 like a private chalet um and the hot tub was was just theirs like it wasn't like a resort where there's

03:40:27.060 families there and stuff like that i'm not i'm not doing anything in front of kids i'm not doing

03:40:30.500 you're not doing anything in public correct but but to to say that though the average age that a

03:40:36.500 young one starts watching is eight and so saying i'm not doing anything in front of kids she just said

03:40:42.820 no but she is no on porn but then shouldn't that be the parents like um their obligation tell me how

03:40:51.460 this makes you feel okay but before we did give a warning before the show that we don't want to

03:40:57.140 discuss uh like young people then we can just end it on this we can end it on this of just an answer

03:41:06.580 a truthful honest answer of just how would that make you feel yeah that totally makes me feel sick

03:41:13.060 like of course i don't want anyone underage watching my content but that is also that is

03:41:21.060 also not really fully my responsibility it is the parents it is you know their guardian or

03:41:28.340 just their education

03:41:32.100 i think about uh britney de la mora former actress in the adult industry she stood up to this she is

03:41:39.540 speaking up against it and we think about education how much that can help i'm not going to say the

03:41:43.700 word uh blockers on our phones um and i i do think the porn community could do more to you know make

03:41:52.100 sure that only people over age are watching but that's that's kind of the the crux of it all if i

03:41:57.060 could give you a hundred million dollars or if i could say you could save 10 marriages 10 self-deletions

03:42:01.620 and 10 women being you know what but it's an actress i can't do shit like no you can i really

03:42:09.220 don't think it's her fault though because there's thousands of other girls doing it too no no that's

03:42:13.700 not what i'm saying what i'm saying is what an inspiration she could be if she spoke up against

03:42:18.580 it that's what i'm saying and if it could help those people would it be worth it it still won't

03:42:24.340 change anything yeah i just might not change something you're just discrediting yourself you're

03:42:28.900 believing that you can't make any type of difference but how does any movement start it

03:42:32.980 starts with one person manny stood up and said to me hey i have a problem and i need help

03:42:37.860 and we've been able to see the impact that that's had on hundreds of families hundreds of

03:42:42.820 couples you know and it's easy to it's very easy to sit there and just discredit yourself and say

03:42:49.220 i can't do anything i can't help the world you can you can change the world and it starts one person

03:42:56.100 one family at a time finding healing and people being willing to stay stand up and say what's happening

03:43:01.860 right now is not right and what's happening to children's minds is not right and you can't make

03:43:08.660 a difference you guys have a fantastic mission it feels a little bit like a non sequitur though

03:43:16.260 because we're talking about her pre porn promiscuity and i would like to try to attempt to stay focused on

03:43:26.340 the topic at hand um so let's perhaps return to uh to that so uh you were saying how uh let's see

03:43:42.500 what we're where you're telling us about the hot tub or you're telling you're telling us about

03:43:46.740 uh uni your uni experience i'm not laughing i'm not laughing so i mean what was that

03:43:53.860 you know looking like just having fun going out a lot and sleeping around a lot

03:44:06.660 okay and so and i'd obviously just started onlyfans so i was like i earned enough to be

03:44:14.020 able to like support myself and yeah it was just so much fun i actually really enjoyed the uni why did

03:44:19.620 you decide to start doing onlyfans like what was the you know what i'd wanted to do it

03:44:23.700 for a while when i was with my ex-boyfriend um and then i broke up with him and i was like yeah

03:44:29.220 why not start it i already had like a slight platform i don't want to be like oh i've got

03:44:34.260 so many followers but i already had like a slight platform on instagram and i thought like you know

03:44:40.260 i can make some if only fans didn't exist do you think you would have stayed in university

03:44:45.940 gotten a degree and like got a more traditional job or what do you think probably probably i definitely

03:44:50.980 think it was only fans that led me to do porn definitely because i realized how much i enjoyed

03:44:55.060 it that i was like yeah i want to like do this even more and stuff like that and grow more and

03:45:00.980 but yeah i don't know maybe like but then again i was like oh i don't even know really what i was

03:45:07.540 doing in uni and i was i mean i went to one lecture so i can't say i wasn't enjoying it

03:45:11.460 do you think that for other girls it sounds like you've been successful in the industry but like

03:45:16.100 for other girls who are maybe wavering like oh should i you know go get a license and do

03:45:20.100 cosmetology or go get my i'm believe me i'm anti-college i'm anti-degrees but like you know

03:45:23.940 stay in university and get whatever degree or i could just drop out and go to only fans and make

03:45:29.220 a bunch of money which again statistically not necessarily true narrative do you think that

03:45:32.900 that's sort of a risky path you know what i have like a ton of girl not a ton i have quite a few

03:45:38.740 girls come to me every so often and say i really want to get into the industry like i want to start

03:45:43.620 only fans how do i do this how do i do that like what do you think should i you know like just

03:45:47.620 asking for my opinion and i do always always say please think about it so much because like

03:45:52.900 do you give them your referral code on only fans too well if if i said well first of all i say really

03:45:59.220 really think about it make sure it's something you really want to do like you know talk to your

03:46:04.100 parents about and make sure like people you know you're not gonna get like i don't know just

03:46:09.380 have a good think because it has a full impact on your life and then um you know i let them think

03:46:16.020 about it and if they still want to go through with it then yeah of course i'll offer my referral code

03:46:20.180 if if they're not getting off me they're gonna get off someone else like it's not um but if they

03:46:25.060 really want to do it then yeah like yeah but i always say like it's not as easy as what people make

03:46:30.820 out no one's successful over well not many people but i think that's the real sinister nature of only fans

03:46:37.380 and it sounds like you guys aren't necessarily perpetuating the myth but that it is just like

03:46:40.980 easy money yeah and i think that that's just like it's pr black no wet dream for only fans some people

03:46:47.300 obviously like do get you know like the people who are already famous but like it is it's i'm not

03:46:52.340 saying i've got the hardest job in the world or anything like that but it's hard like i i work hard

03:46:57.300 i'd like to say but i'm not saying like i'm gonna harness job but yeah it's a lot harder than it looks

03:47:03.220 online because people just think you take a few photos and then you know you're set for life but

03:47:08.660 that's just not the truth at all yeah so kind of where i was leading into with all these questions

03:47:14.660 i know i was kind of almost interrogating you there it was leading it was leading to somewhere

03:47:19.940 no it was it was leading to a point it was you know in your notes here you say that the internet

03:47:25.940 makes people think people care way more about body count than they actually do and that's kind

03:47:32.500 of where it was leading so it sounds like you don't really think body count matters or it shouldn't

03:47:36.820 matter is that correct yes i just think like you know these extremist podcasts sometimes is this no

03:47:45.780 no more like fresh and fit and things like that come up on like your for you page and it's like

03:47:49.860 i will not date a girl who's got a body count over four like you are a fucking hoe like you're a whore

03:47:55.380 you may as well fucking kill yourself because no man will ever want you and that oh i that's not

03:48:01.220 something i advocate for but and i just i just want to say like that is not true and i think in a real

03:48:07.460 relationship like people don't care that much as long as you're not i mean as long as you're not a

03:48:13.220 whole like me as long as like but like if you're like a little bit of a slut then like people don't

03:48:20.100 care as much as uh well okay so i mean i'll open up to the whole panel we'll go around the table

03:48:26.660 do you object to men caring about a woman's body count starting with you

03:48:31.540 wait does object mean i'm so disagree do you yes so i disagree with men kind of

03:48:37.220 do i disagree with men caring about a woman's body count um do you object to it no i don't

03:48:47.060 i think everybody's entitled to their own opinion okay sure to each his own no i don't care in fact

03:48:52.420 i think it matters if they didn't care i think that would be a red flag okay

03:49:00.900 can you speak your mic that way just what was the question again do you object to men caring about

03:49:06.100 a woman's body count um i'm not sure how to answer this um can you elaborate like okay so men

03:49:22.340 a lot of men not all men but a lot of men prefer women who have a low body count or who are not

03:49:28.660 promiscuous and so for example if a woman has slept with seven men some might or ten men or whatever it

03:49:35.940 might be some men might think that's a lot and object to it and not want to date her or take her

03:49:40.900 seriously in a long-term relationship would you object to that i think everyone's entitled to the

03:49:47.460 different sure sure becca what about you no okay anything i think it would be uh it would be tough

03:49:54.900 but i would look at their heart and see if they are saying you know what hey we've all made mistakes

03:49:59.620 in the past we've all sinned we've all gone against god but i want to better myself and okay

03:50:05.460 move in a new direction got it well so it seems like almost everybody here including including a

03:50:12.020 lot of the women disagree with you on this do you think that perhaps your view on this is because

03:50:17.940 you've had your promiscuity or perhaps you still are i think i'm probably talking about like my optimal

03:50:25.060 guy if i was with a guy and they were asking and caring about body count then that's not for me yeah

03:50:31.140 obviously i would disagree if a man has a hundred body like a body kind of 100 then it's a different

03:50:38.580 story you wouldn't be able to tell me like oh yeah i care about your body count when you could actually

03:50:43.860 you could i'll make the argument in a sec here but um so here's okay we're gonna we're gonna go around

03:50:50.820 the table on this what's your body count starting with you go ahead uh yeah it's definitely triple

03:51:00.420 digits i couldn't tell you what it is do you think it's more than 200 i would like to think

03:51:09.780 probably not probably not yeah okay but like i like i said i don't care so i don't count and like

03:51:16.340 it that number's quite high i can't count that high you know i mean like that's a part-time job

03:51:20.820 keeping track of that so okay do you think that i mean do you think there's a percentage breakdown

03:51:26.900 between like the men you've sleep slept with for work and then the civilians you've slept with i

03:51:33.300 probably slept with a lot more like for work civilians more civilians than for work okay what how

03:51:39.140 many do you think but you said didn't you say you've done over 100 scenes with oh no i've not done

03:51:44.500 i've probably done like like how many men do you think you've done scenes with 20 30 40 50 60 70.

03:51:52.420 i don't know quite a few now well range give us a range i can't like i'd say like more more than 50.

03:52:02.580 no probably about 50. about 50. yeah okay and then what about like civilians how many there

03:52:07.700 yeah in the hundreds in the mole but are you saying that's a big range i'm gonna guess if you

03:52:17.620 250. i'm gonna guess it's between 150 150. no probably a bit more than that and then like

03:52:26.180 150. 220. 150 so like okay all right yeah okay it's quite hard to like no i don't i don't count

03:52:36.420 so it's hard to know like are you counting women and men yes i count women because like i i date

03:52:42.100 girls like i like girls so like i class that as sex yeah

03:52:45.780 yeah but i know a lot of people are like i don't count girls but that's just that's because they

03:52:51.860 don't do you uh you said you want a husband one day right yeah you want kids uh no no okay oh no kids

03:52:59.780 okay uh do you do you think that do you at least admit or concede that the fact that you've been

03:53:08.260 engaged in adult content and you know you're admitted past and current promiscuity do you at least admit

03:53:14.340 that for the vast majority of it's not optimal that's gonna be a major issue for long-term

03:53:20.420 yeah yeah no i understand that and i you know i know what my actions like result in i get that but

03:53:27.940 then again like i haven't i don't want to date someone who's you know right not wanting to enjoy

03:53:34.740 other people with me okay and stuff like that all right well i mean it seems like at least you're

03:53:39.540 kind of aware of yeah i'm a southwest you're you're there you have it uh oh going around the

03:53:46.180 table body count all right with like men and women included like 20 what's the breakdown uh i've had

03:53:54.900 sex with like seven women so yeah and the rest are guys and i'm 25 so you know just okay a little bit

03:54:00.820 every now and then you know it adds up sure miss 5 000 boyfriends what about you um women and men

03:54:08.180 i would say about 35 what's the breakdown uh six male and the rest female oh okay period okay

03:54:18.980 can i pass is that okay no i mean if we're not gonna force out yeah we're not gonna force you

03:54:25.220 if you if you don't want to engage that's fine with it i will politely decline that's fine

03:54:31.700 it's one okay

03:54:39.300 it's nine but i do want to just say something about it i had you know i grew up christian

03:54:47.860 completely turned away from god when i was in college and i started believing certain things

03:54:53.860 about myself that i was an object that no one was gonna love me that i was only good for um

03:55:02.100 you know fulfilling someone's sexual desires and i really started to believe that so i'm so grateful

03:55:07.380 that i had people in my life who um affirmed what's true is that i i deserve to be um honored and valued

03:55:14.500 and cared for and have a um partner who's really there for me and uh it was a big hiccup for manny

03:55:25.140 to get over that when i told him early on in our relationship but i just want to say to all the women

03:55:31.380 out there who are maybe thinking hey i'm too far gone i don't think there's such a thing as too far

03:55:37.860 gone you can always turn it around and have a uh and have a positive relationship with someone if

03:55:44.180 you can turn around from but what about lily okay i mean i lily absolutely she might be she might be

03:55:52.820 far gone no offense you're a nice girl i agree with you if you're she might be far gone no

03:55:58.340 i thought we were going to do this whole lesson on turning hose into if you have a heart change and

03:56:04.740 and and see an error of your ways and let's say let's just say you did decide to make a difference

03:56:12.020 and and turn it around and say hey i can i condemn my old actions i repent of what i was doing and i

03:56:18.740 i want to help other women i want to help other women get out of this it's like i do believe you

03:56:23.460 could absolutely find a great man a great man who would stand by you absolutely so i don't i don't

03:56:30.660 think you're too far gone but it is a requirement she might be too far

03:56:33.780 to change the actions moving forward can i can i ask you a question there is redemption there

03:56:38.740 might be redemption for is it hard for manning to get over the fact that you've slept with nine

03:56:42.740 people yes do you think that's a little hypocritical considering his past wait no because i i think i think

03:56:52.020 it was hard for him to get over my past just like it was hard for me to get over his okay it was a

03:56:57.700 it was a big struggle for a long time when you told me i don't know none of you have gotten

03:57:03.700 married before but you expect you've been married if you're not i was sorry if you didn't want to

03:57:09.860 speak about it it's okay um sorry i apologize yeah kind of not yeah i don't want to talk about it but

03:57:16.980 you go to your wedding night she just outed me i'm sorry i was like i should not i'm trying to

03:57:25.460 ask about it because it was in the notes that i listed in there so i might tap tap in a little bit

03:57:30.980 but keep keep going back but you go to your wedding night and your husband literally can't get it up for

03:57:39.620 you do you know how that feels yeah that must be really do you know how that feels to go this is my

03:57:46.260 day i i'm like all dealt up this is our day and he's struggling with this so much that he's having

03:57:54.180 ed and can't get it up for me so no it was not easy it was not an easy few years and we swept it

03:58:02.340 under the rug for years because i didn't want this to be my reality i didn't want to

03:58:07.380 you know for this to be my story i didn't grow up thinking oh i'm gonna start a non-profit

03:58:14.980 to help people overcome porn addictions absolutely not i felt called by god um in that moment when he

03:58:22.180 said i need help with this it's like this sucks for me and i'm dealing with a lot of um how it makes

03:58:29.540 me feel but i want to be there to help other people get through this because i know it's tearing a lot

03:58:36.900 of people apart so it was hard for him just like it was hard for me with dealing with his stuff so

03:58:42.980 it goes both ways you know nobody's nobody's a perfect person and you have to you're gonna make

03:58:48.500 me cry i know she said i know she brought up the fact that i was married okay so let's just say i was i

03:59:05.540 was actually in a pretty serious relationship filled out marriage license and everything like that

03:59:10.020 kind of got kind of got married kind of just it was it was really weird i just don't really want to

03:59:15.380 touch on the how serious we were but um uh it was a relationship that i was in for two years and not

03:59:22.260 once did we have sex throughout that whole whole time because that's a friendship jesus it was

03:59:30.420 were you waiting were you waiting until no we were not um so throughout those two years not once did we

03:59:37.780 have sex and you were gonna marry him it's people do that i thought mani and i did not have sex before

03:59:47.700 we got married oh yeah we we had had sex with other people but we were not you too waiting god we waited

03:59:54.420 to have sex with each other i was yeah i just want to clarify that i wouldn't be i was openly like i

04:00:01.140 mean i was committed to him and this was someone that i thought i was married marrying so i was like

04:00:05.780 yeah you know what let's try it not like probably twice out of our whole relationship did we ever do

04:00:12.900 anything and i thought it was i thought it was a mental uh not a mental condition but a medical

04:00:18.260 condition like hey like what's going on and i thought it was me i thought it was everything else and it

04:00:24.580 wasn't until it was in november of last year i was actually i was like okay no something's up because

04:00:33.220 i would talk to my friends about it and they were chirping in my ear and they were like jade no

04:00:36.340 something's like something's wrong and so i went through the wi-fi router because i was using all

04:00:43.140 the bills i went through the wi-fi router i went through my phone and he was actually severely

04:00:48.100 addicted to porn even got to the point where he was using my own credit cards to buy only fans

04:00:52.900 and i was like oh that's so cute wait is this the car you slash is tight wait no no no no i was gonna

04:01:00.500 say this one i was more mature i just got my stuff and walked out of the relationship what age were you

04:01:05.380 after heavens so this was last november so recently okay this was on thanksgiving by the way wow

04:01:12.100 oh yeah it's just it's super fun super dope um i if i found out earlier in the relationship i would

04:01:21.060 be 10 times more open to actually genuinely working it out i mean i love you i'm i want to marry you

04:01:28.020 under god 100 let me sit down next to you and help you i would however he saw me so many times

04:01:36.660 sit next to him and be like please like something's going on i don't feel like there's i'm missing

04:01:41.780 something please help me like come on let's fix it and he would lie to my face straight up he'd be like

04:01:47.140 i don't know what's wrong with me i i don't know what's going on um i need to go make a doctor's

04:01:52.100 appointment and i went and i set the doctor's appointment for him and he would go in and he

04:01:57.300 would not he would like miss the doctor's appointments and then i would get a call on the

04:02:01.220 phone saying like hey insurance is being like hey you need to you need to pay the no-show fee and

04:02:06.500 i'm like why are you he knew what was wrong with him the whole time he knew i feel like that's

04:02:10.660 also just like a very very hard thing to disclose to anyone no matter how close you are because i

04:02:16.500 mean any addiction it doesn't even have to be porn addiction no offense but it's like a very

04:02:20.420 embarrassing it's an embarrassing like it's very shameful that's why people don't really talk about

04:02:24.980 it and stuff so no it like kind of makes sense why people don't disclose that but yeah at the same

04:02:32.420 time but that's what's so hurtful is the is the not being told about it yeah i think that's that's

04:02:40.180 a lot of women that feels like there's a side of this person that you've never seen you know what

04:02:45.620 i'm saying and now looking back on it i mean i know i jumped into another relationship or talking

04:02:51.860 stage or whatever the hell i'm in so quickly however i'm it's not necessarily that i miss him

04:02:58.660 because the whole time i wasn't getting my needs met whether it was sexually emotionally physically

04:03:02.260 whatever i wasn't getting my needs met it's more of like i'm grieving like a like a friendship but

04:03:07.460 the friendship was like fake built on lies and so i was up you said that you were dating a guy was it

04:03:15.620 for two years and you didn't have sex ever we had sex like twice towards the beginning towards

04:03:21.700 beginning and then stopped stopped yes and then you discovered he was just watching a bunch of

04:03:27.460 gay porn was it gay porn straight porn everything oh everything you didn't reveal that it was gay

04:03:34.020 porn he was watching because that's in the notes i think yes it is he was watching gay porn how did

04:03:38.660 you know he was watching you you hacked his computer i i hacked our wi-fi router damn that's something you

04:03:45.220 can see the history on the wi-fi router yes you can see the history on your bills you can see

04:03:49.220 the history on everything was he subscribing to a gay mail on it no so he was not what if it was

04:03:55.220 like one accidental click he accidentally clicked on some gay porn you don't just know because it'll

04:03:59.940 show you oh it was like router how long he was on the specific link and he would watch and it would

04:04:04.820 be like 30 minutes and be like no shit you don't want to sleep next i mean i mean he might have been

04:04:09.940 gay you guys had sex twice i know you dated him for how long two years that's kind of no offense

04:04:17.140 that's kind of on i'm baffled that's what that's kind of not to be insensitive or whatever that's

04:04:22.900 kind of on you like like everybody said with him everybody you stayed with him everybody says that

04:04:28.340 everybody says that it's a friendship i think like surely right one of my friends went through the

04:04:34.660 same thing i have no idea what it is about my brain but when i get into a specific relationship or

04:04:39.620 commitment or like we go on the first date i will run it until the wheels fall off yeah doesn't

04:04:43.540 necessarily mean that the first date i'm in love with you that's not what it means it's just

04:04:48.580 i'm committed immediately let's get a couple chats and we'll come back to that story though i do want

04:04:52.820 to come back to that we have marcus david 1794 hey thank you man appreciate it this is our first

04:04:58.660 time seeing you in the uh chat thank you for your patronage man appreciate it i'm surprised by the

04:05:03.780 straightforwardness and the easiness she states these facts just wow i believe this is directed to awards

04:05:11.780 i certainly give you credit for your uh as as i already stated your willingness to just be open

04:05:16.500 about this stuff brixton's flannel donated 100 thank you man there is a zero percent chance you got that

04:05:22.980 information from the wi-fi router unless you became his wife's gonna find out your wi-fi router doesn't

04:05:29.620 store dns data straight cap isn't there something though if you have access i have you know somebody's

04:05:36.420 bills yeah somebody's uh if it's your wi-fi if it's your wi-fi can't you intercept what the internet

04:05:43.860 traffic is you can oh no i'm not an expert i did it and if you want the screenshots i got yo brixton's

04:05:50.260 flannel i will should i do something to put on the flannel right now i don't know you gotta let's see the

04:05:55.540 flannel you're not edging me with this here brixton's flannel send another chat you can pick the color i got

04:06:01.620 blue i have black i've got red i have another red and i got like a green let me know which one you

04:06:08.500 want to see i'll put it on i'll put it on for the rest of the show thank you for valentine's day

04:06:13.940 i'll leave it up to him maybe he's uh he likes the blue he thinks it brings out the color of my eyes you

04:06:18.820 never know it seems like he has a uh preoccupation with me so okay uh oh nick pull up the twitch guys go

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04:07:03.460 our pre-show notes here that you guys provided i think we did everything uh we got everything from

04:07:10.260 oh really quick i think you said on the body count thing like a guy who has a high body count

04:07:15.940 it's hypocritical if he wants a girl with a low body count i disagree and i disagree now i don't think

04:07:21.060 it's good for anybody to have be promiscuous or have a high body count right i don't think it's

04:07:26.020 good for men i don't think it's good for women however if a man has accrued a higher body count

04:07:32.980 let's say i think it's totally fine if he recognizes that the optimum dating choice would be to date

04:07:38.900 someone who has a low body count or who's a virgin i don't object to that at all and it doesn't make

04:07:44.900 him hypocritical because for example need you desire a trait in order to desire said trait in your

04:07:54.340 partner what do you mean what was the question again hold on let me i got you um so in order for

04:08:12.180 you to desire a trait in a partner do you need to do uh excuse me do you need to also possess said

04:08:19.540 trait i feel like i desire similar things to my previous partners or i have the traits

04:08:35.860 like like you know like like not opposites attract like you know what i mean i don't know how to explain

04:08:41.060 it but here's what occurs to me right is that women desire traits in men that they don't possess

04:08:49.300 themselves so i don't think now it would be hypocritical for example if a guy said i think

04:08:55.940 promiscuity is disgusting but then they are promiscuous themselves or if they were outwardly

04:09:01.540 judgmental of a promiscuous woman but they themselves engaged in promiscuity but if a man for example he had

04:09:08.820 slept with he's in he's in his he's 30 and he slept with 40 women again i don't not recommending you do

04:09:16.420 that but let's say he did i don't object to him saying well um i would like to date a woman who's a

04:09:22.900 virgin or who's slept with less than five people but why would he want that because he realizes that's

04:09:30.020 going to be an optimal partner for him so despite his lack the lack of his own low body count i don't

04:09:37.700 it doesn't make him a hypocrite it would be a hypocrite if he says if he was his actions were

04:09:44.580 for example well i'm negatively judging your behavior but i engage in said behavior but desiring

04:09:52.100 a trait in a partner that you do not for example having a low body count i get what you're saying

04:09:57.380 but a lot of these men that have a high body count and want a a woman with a low body count um don't

04:10:03.780 recognize that they shouldn't have a lot of high body count they're they're still promiscuous they're

04:10:09.780 still cheating they're still around they're still doing all these things that they shouldn't be

04:10:14.580 doing well we can also approach this from another angle so there's a biological and uh evo psych reason

04:10:19.860 for why men find uh non-promiscuity in women attractive and desirable um that doesn't exist in women but

04:10:27.700 um so i would argue even a guy who's actively promiscuous he may very well still find uh sexually

04:10:34.980 pure or low body count women attractive are you sexually yeah they they want them at home in the

04:10:40.580 kitchen fixing up sandwiches while they're out with these other promiscuous women and cheating with

04:10:46.420 other permits and again i'm not making the case that men should be promiscuous but but for example if a

04:10:51.220 man had had a body count of 20 for example i don't object to him wanting to date a woman with a low

04:10:58.180 body count yeah of course count under 10 or low body count under five she could he could want a virgin

04:11:04.740 if he that's totally fine yeah that's totally fine now here's why i feel like it's hypocritical it's not

04:11:09.300 no it's not hypocritical let me ask you a question let me ask you a question though let me ask you a

04:11:15.780 clarifying question do you think it's hypocritical for a woman who's not funny to desire a man who's

04:11:22.500 funny yes because then she can become funny but how many but i i would argue that you ask you ask

04:11:30.980 most women most women will say i find men who are can make me laugh attractive i find that attractive

04:11:39.700 hold on hold on what if they lack the capacity to be humorous or to make their partner laugh are they

04:11:45.380 wrong are they hypocrites for finding humor attractive in a partner and i would say no

04:11:50.740 morals and humor are two completely different things so yeah but honestly i feel like it is

04:11:54.740 i'm not even looking at it from that framework i'm looking at his humor if they're two different

04:11:59.220 people like they're not going to be compatible oh i disagree i disagree i i don't think that's

04:12:04.580 necessarily true a woman need not be funny to desire a man who's humorous or funny

04:12:11.220 and i don't think that now she should she perhaps ought to have a sense of humor that's something

04:12:17.460 different though because you can have a sense of humor that's your ability to perhaps detect humor

04:12:22.900 doesn't mean you're going to be funny but you might certainly uh recognize humor in somebody else

04:12:28.980 what i could give you other examples uh a woman wants a man who's charismatic but

04:12:33.380 maybe she's not charismatic herself she wants a man who's chivalrous but she's not chivalrous herself

04:12:38.660 she wants a man who's tall but she's not tall she wants a man who's traditional but she's not

04:12:43.780 traditional she wants a man who's dominant but she's not dominant what you're what you're stating

04:12:49.700 though are physical attributes for example tall being funny no yeah being charismatic you're either

04:12:55.460 born funny or you're born not funny well that's arguable but however having depending on the people

04:13:01.860 that you sleep with or for example what was the other thing you said you said sleep with

04:13:08.260 anyways sleeping with someone is a choice a choice that you make that can reflect back on your reflect

04:13:16.580 back onto your morals it's not oh my gosh he's tall i'm short i want to talk it's it's different

04:13:24.020 reflecting on morals it's the way you think the way you talk the way you act the way you make your

04:13:28.580 choices it's not oh this person's tall but i'm short i want that person that's a physical type i feel

04:13:35.700 like a body count is more of a mental type that's how you connect with someone and you can't connect

04:13:41.300 with someone if you don't have the same values or the same morals personally if i suppose if you're

04:13:46.580 looking at it through the lens of this moral framework i'm simply looking at it candid answers donated

04:13:54.020 one hundred dollars it is hypocritical because their actions are directly contributing to the

04:13:59.460 lack of other men being able to achieve the same thing well i mean that's another conversation so you

04:14:04.740 have you have men who say well high body or women with a high body count is bad uh or having high body

04:14:13.220 count is bad but if they're engaging in casual sex with women adding to their high body count that but

04:14:18.740 that's another conversation um but so but you have a point when you're saying that though and like

04:14:24.980 okay well if he's around with other girls and stuff and then it's like oh but you have to have a low body

04:14:29.220 count but i'm gonna still have sex with other women like that's their actions you know but it's like

04:14:33.300 okay well i've had you know a big body count you know i've been with a lot of women but i'm not anymore

04:14:38.100 and you know and you know it's if you have a low body count then that's what i want you know and at the

04:14:43.540 end of the day it's his opinion and you know i just i feel like it's just i'm just well there's

04:14:50.020 a couple levels to it so we're looking around we're having if we're having a conversation about

04:14:54.100 hypocrisy again i don't think it's hypocritical for a man to if he has a high body count yeah

04:15:02.740 20 30 40 to it's not hypocritical to desire a woman with a low body count than the other

04:15:08.900 conversation is well um it's hypocritical if you're saying that but then you're still

04:15:13.700 fucking around with other women and you expect her to not you know but the other conversation

04:15:18.180 putting hypocrisy to the side is well should a man uh is he wrong for desiring

04:15:26.500 a partner with a low body count or a woman who's a virgin if he himself has had

04:15:30.740 10 20 30 sexual partners no i don't think so i don't think no i mean i think the answer is no

04:15:36.180 you know but a lot of people would would object to that and say well if as a man if you've slept

04:15:40.820 with 30 women you have no business dating a woman who's a virgin and again i i object to that because

04:15:47.940 and you're saying like you're looking at it from a moral framework but i'm looking at it from a much

04:15:51.860 more simplistic way and that is people are allowed to desire traits in a partner that they themselves do

04:15:59.300 not possess and women do this frequently where they want a man who's rich but they're not rich they

04:16:04.020 want a professional athlete but they're not a professional athlete they want a man who's high

04:16:08.020 status but they have no status i'm just gonna say as someone you can disagree with a lower body count

04:16:15.620 i would never consider someone who oh that's totally fine if if a woman on from her end would not moral

04:16:22.660 that's totally fine don't object to that at all if a woman doesn't want to date a guy because of his

04:16:28.100 past promiscuity or he has a body that's totally acceptable but i'm just i don't think it's as

04:16:33.700 important to women and i certainly don't object to the the only way i would concede that we should

04:16:41.220 object to men who perhaps have a high body count desiring women with low body counts is if we start

04:16:47.780 objecting to poor uh poor women wanting rich men and unfunny women wanting fun like the you're allowed to

04:16:55.620 desire both men and women are allowed to desire traits in a partner that they themselves do not

04:17:00.020 possess that's that's the whole basis of my argument i also think the asymmetry and wanting body counts

04:17:06.340 just stems from the fact that there's differences in male and female sexuality and i think that that's

04:17:10.900 one of the biggest lies whether you want to call it feminism or just like modern gender role cultures

04:17:15.460 which is the idea that men and women are the same it's like the 50 shades of great culture in the

04:17:20.500 sense that women i think that that's a very like masculine interpretation of sexuality and women are pushed to

04:17:25.300 that because we say men and women are more or less the same so that's why i think when you see that

04:17:29.940 asymmetry that it's more normal for guys to want women with lower body counts because i think the

04:17:34.820 way women attach to guys when they sleep with them is very very different than men can sleep with a

04:17:40.020 bunch of women and not really have any emotional attachment to them i agree with you however it comes

04:17:45.300 down to when people started thinking like that what went up the divorce rates before that what were men when

04:17:51.460 they were getting married the reversions it's because it comes from a moral standpoint on the

04:17:57.060 time frame of that 70s and up 60s and up the rise of what you said earlier was the feminist movement

04:18:02.580 and things like that the birth control normalization i'm just saying birth control i think was the main

04:18:08.980 impetus that made female sexuality more similar to male sexuality because you didn't have to worry

04:18:15.220 really about getting pregnant and i know disrespect to what you guys do but if the pill hadn't been invented you

04:18:19.860 guys probably wouldn't have a job or you'd have a lot of kids um we do a lot of donated one hundred

04:18:26.580 dollars thank you not enough characters to explain how the aussie model aussie model but dns is external

04:18:33.140 to the wi-fi network and i doubt she's got the tech skills to reverse an ip address she's a small

04:18:39.940 love the hoodie yo thank you man i don't know maybe she's like some hardcore hacker or

04:18:44.980 fucking anonymous type shit and she's you know hacking oh we got it goes when when they when

04:18:50.740 they won't say nothing like a scoring yeah grid one motorsports donated 100 chastity has never been

04:18:59.460 a factor in a man's value it has always been a factor in a woman's value men and women are not

04:19:05.780 the same a man's high body count is not a predictor for cheating or divorce i i think that's where people

04:19:11.540 are getting me confused and i'm sorry if it came off this way not necessarily value men don't have

04:19:16.100 to have chastity for value i think it's for women a girl who also is a virgin i think it is more they're

04:19:22.740 more compatible if they both have the chastity not necessarily like oh it's it's it's it it doesn't

04:19:30.580 matter i don't look at a guy and i'm like oh okay he has 50 bodies that's disgusting no i don't judge

04:19:35.860 him for that however if he comes to me and tells me i have 50 bodies i'm gonna be like okay we're a little

04:19:39.620 bit less compatible than i thought we were previously good times he knows what he's doing

04:19:46.260 good times let me get a couple chats here we have nickelodeon angsty chick how many evan evans

04:19:51.540 evan oh my god evanescence song lyrics do you have memorized i feel like you might enjoy pain a little

04:19:57.940 what the fuck why do chicks obsess over these kind of men who's he talking about who's the moody

04:20:04.660 angsty chick who's the angsty girl probably me is that you it has to be i mean i'm i'm the only

04:20:10.180 one with black hair long black hair and i'm my chemical romance my little actually a lot i love

04:20:15.620 rock music so oh okay i'm going to sick do you have any evanescence no i like more deftones which is

04:20:25.060 thank you nickelodeon appreciate it got marcus david hey thank you man all of these women including the

04:20:30.980 fallacy of religion she's still what still uh okay already know their value and most importantly

04:20:38.500 their depreciation they desire things they don't deserve or possess i'm not sure he's just an incel

04:20:45.700 you tell him annie tell him that one i think that's a very extreme that's what porn teaches is they're

04:20:51.940 objects they're not worth anything they're just for play and then you throw them out and it's just

04:20:56.260 terrible and i just wanted to say she's not god god can redeem any situation i didn't get to go on

04:21:01.780 the body count thing and i just wanted to go for a sec but you know the lord can redeem any situation

04:21:06.660 when i was in my early 20s you know i was thinking of the self-delete option and um had one moment of

04:21:14.100 strength and courage went back home my dad saw me he he showed me love and kept going and eventually got

04:21:21.300 that degree met becca um you know we we made a lot of money we traveled all around the world you know

04:21:26.820 we've made beautiful children and um now we get to start this organization it's a beautiful thing and

04:21:32.500 i think to answer the body count question straightforward you know i was the legalist

04:21:39.700 mindset of i want to please god so i can just go as close as i can to this line as i can so i said i'm

04:21:44.580 not having sex i'm just going to make out with girls she can make out with girls and i start watching

04:21:48.580 more and more porn and then it's well they're having fun so i should have fun too so on the

04:21:52.660 second girl that i have sex with uh i have a rash downstairs and all of a sudden i'm in planned

04:21:59.780 parenthood and i'm sitting there and i'm sitting with these old men who got all types of things

04:22:04.340 going on and and these pregnant teenage mothers and it's the saddest place you know you ever go and

04:22:08.980 i just prayed to god and i said god um if you can heal this take anything you want and i went back

04:22:14.180 there drop the pants they check it and they go you have molescum and i'm like what's that like

04:22:19.060 well it's a skin rash i'm like okay like how long do i have to live and they go they go um no it's

04:22:26.340 just it's just a skin rash like it it's fine like we just put some cream on it's okay and i oh my

04:22:30.580 goodness it's amazing but here's what else was amazing lord did answer the prayer because he goes

04:22:34.580 the thing about it is you can't touch anybody uh for like six months and you can't shave your body and

04:22:38.980 i worked at a restaurant where i had to be clean shaven so in that moment i lost my job i lost my

04:22:43.300 ability to be with women it lost my ability to play basketball and work out and all of these

04:22:47.060 things and then i'm like driving home like at least i still got my house i walk in the front door my

04:22:51.220 roommate's brother's in there he's like dude what's up we're having a party come on in i'm like what are

04:22:55.060 we celebrating he's like we're moving in you're moving out and his dad who was the landlord kicked

04:22:58.260 us out so in all that i lose all of those things but what was amazing about it is i said god you know

04:23:04.980 i know you're working in this and um i uh long story short you know met becca after that after i started

04:23:11.540 turning my life around and um what a journey becca and i have been on but the story of the stories

04:23:18.340 of redemption that we've heard and you know i'm sorry brian for going on the long monologue real

04:23:23.860 quick one more minute oh no i was but there was a tech thing that i wasn't i wasn't saying i wasn't

04:23:29.380 talking about your story you know this this idea of money being the most important thing in the world

04:23:34.740 you know we made tons and tons and tons of money i remember being in amsterdam getting off stage

04:23:39.140 from my ted talk and going to get 10 beers three blunts thinking about a fourth going to jerk off

04:23:44.980 and it's like i've won the game of life i have everything that i could ever have and i'm still

04:23:49.780 searching for more and more and more and we think a lot of times god doesn't want us to experience joy

04:23:54.180 but he does he wants to experience his way and my way was leading to death and destruction and his

04:23:59.380 way was leading to life and just getting to be here and to share how the lord has changed our lives how

04:24:04.900 we've been able to make this impact to just share that any story can be redeemed at any time you want

04:24:09.460 to talk you know you could hit us up and say hey i just want to talk about whatever we would be there

04:24:15.140 for you and i i say that to anybody you know it's but i i just want to always let you know you can

04:24:21.060 never run too far lord will always be there i love you guys i know you guys are so like you guys are

04:24:27.860 angels i know this podcast oh jesus i know not to be the big i love him not to be i you can't i

04:24:39.540 suppose so they do you can be uh you can get redemption right yeah redemption however however i don't think

04:24:51.940 with my question for manny here question for manny because i think you're a bit more versed on in

04:24:56.180 you know when it comes to religion and stuff so certainly like when it comes to god she can she

04:25:01.620 can redeem redemption 100 right but do you think like does a guy like let's say a christian guy is

04:25:10.100 like looking to date a woman like i don't know would he would he wanna if i if i i think the guy can still

04:25:19.460 have discretion right with who he dates and maybe her past despite her redemption

04:25:26.180 could preclude you know we are we often think there's good people in the world and bad people

04:25:32.340 in the world the only people need to go to hell hitler and the other person who i'm not going to

04:25:36.500 say and if you think about it yeah right right but that's what got natalie trouble

04:25:46.420 but when we think about it it's like the analogy my dad told me you know we take a good person

04:25:50.340 joking youtube i'm joking don't cancel me okay sorry continue no but i was saying you know we

04:25:55.780 often think there's good people bad people we have this moral relativism and in my belief you know my

04:26:00.820 dad said it best with the analogy of the brownies you know we have a good person the world sees and

04:26:05.540 we have someone like a hitler and it's almost like if i was making brownies and i get the best chocolate

04:26:11.140 best sugar best flour and i'm making them we're all hungry because brian keeps us here for 18 hours and

04:26:15.780 filming this podcast but we're all hungry we're all excited so i'm making them and i go hey i just got

04:26:21.300 one last thing i'm going to add in here on the good person i'm just going to add in a little bit of

04:26:24.980 poop into these brownies and the bad person i'm adding in a lot hold on hold on that's a different

04:26:31.140 fetish now i know so i put the brownies in and i bake them and i bring them out and we go all right

04:26:37.540 who's ready to eat and everyone goes what is going we're not eating the poop brownies what are you

04:26:41.220 talking about we throw those things out and when we think about i'm a good person i'm a better

04:26:45.220 person i i'm better than you i'm better no we are all sinful people we have all gone against god

04:26:50.260 and you can never run too far from his love he will always be there and i just want everyone

04:26:56.820 absolutely hear that lily and i and i'll tell you what you know you're kind of it up

04:27:04.100 but you know the biggest thing is you know the lord you know when he sent his son on the cross to

04:27:09.860 die for us for our sins you know all he asks is we repent of our sins we ask him to be a lord and

04:27:15.700 savior we commit our lives to christ and lord marcos david 1794 donated 100 you can get redemption

04:27:26.340 but sin does not get erased also you girls don't have moral quality to justify your positions oh also

04:27:34.260 this guy with the colorful shirt is the actual incel pd love the hoodie pd love who's pd

04:27:43.380 the man's he's like he's married hello that doesn't even okay oh we got another one coming

04:27:49.140 through donated 100 oh haters girl in the green shirt that caught her man on the wi-fi route to how did

04:27:56.340 you reverse search the ip addresses i'd love to know we need a tutorial yeah she does she's

04:28:03.620 cyber security right she's a hacker so in all honesty i wasn't the one who actually did it i

04:28:09.540 hired someone to come over and do it oh okay the truth so the truth has come out i'm not the smart

04:28:14.660 one was the man it was a man it was it was the patriarchy strikes again how much did you have to pay

04:28:22.980 it was like literally just 20 bucks i picked him up like best buy hacker man he like got off

04:28:28.420 off like craigslist not even i literally was it a black hat or white hat hacker i don't even know

04:28:35.700 i don't know where i'm going with that yeah i just watched the best buy and i was like many did you

04:28:39.620 want to wrap up your uh i'm sorry that that kind of threw me off where i was so okay maybe if it'll

04:28:45.620 come back we have a chat here from chris blakeman hey thank you man chris i think this is our your

04:28:50.660 first chat here uh appreciate your patronage make a mashup video of madison's crazy face reactions

04:28:56.420 and mouthing brian's words that would be fire get adam carolla on your new love line he would be down

04:29:02.580 i bet he rubs elbows with the daily wire i would love to have uh adam carolla on uh the show i you

04:29:10.820 when i was young he had uh he used to do uh his love line show which was like a radio it was was it

04:29:17.540 every night of the week pretty much or a couple times a week and so that'd be that'd be pretty

04:29:23.220 cool adam carolla is super funny so i'd maybe try to get that set up um okay let me see if we have

04:29:29.220 other chats we do have stifler here stifler or excuse me the stiff meister

04:29:33.380 he wants to ask ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten oh yeah jesus i almost

04:29:47.780 fucked okay go ahead we'll go around the table starting with you go ahead looks physical looks

04:29:52.420 physical looks like a six okay what about you 10 out of 10 okay 69

04:29:59.060 why do you guys do this what have you guys known this like throughout the show the girls

04:30:09.540 well you're like that's like we've got their titties my shoulder shirt i mean my my

04:30:13.060 how cringe would it be my tits do not mean how cringe would it be guys just

04:30:18.420 god gave you maracas so you can shake it

04:30:20.580 that's fucking disgusting i want to go home

04:30:30.740 okay so out of 10 though give us the one to add a 10 10 and a half

04:30:37.140 is that how math works okay we'll just i'm gonna say you said six five ten ten i said six right now

04:30:43.220 tilt your mic down please so it's right now maybe like a five but when i get ready and i'm actually

04:30:47.300 like ready to go out maybe like at six wait so you're saying you you didn't get ready for

04:30:52.180 ready for the whatever podcast that's kind of okay oh you go out for the girls night out but you

04:30:58.260 come to whatever podcast like i was i was planning on putting my tan on i wanted to go get my nails

04:31:02.900 done i had a lip filler appointment books i was ready to go you don't like um lip fillers that's

04:31:08.580 that's why okay so when you're so five now and then five now and then when i actually get ready to

04:31:20.740 go out and i want to or not want to but i actually try very hard to look good maybe when you get a

04:31:26.900 glam on when i get my glam on it's like a six or a seven okay natalie like a seven okay what about you

04:31:33.140 like a seven yeah usually an eight but being so pregnant i don't feel like you are glowing

04:31:40.260 pregnant beautiful look at that uh manny what about you scale of one to ten i'm gonna say a seven

04:31:46.980 eight okay i'm gonna throw in the middle 75 your hands up behind you thank you you look a little bit

04:31:51.460 like uh cillian murphy have you gone or nikola the undonated right hundred dollars

04:31:59.060 we're talking looks ladies not triggering the richter scale what does that mean the richter scale

04:32:05.700 isn't that a vibrator it's over nine thousand thank you nickelodeon appreciate it what about

04:32:11.460 you brian oh yeah i'll answer i manny you are a handsome man i uh you know i'd say uh

04:32:16.820 the the actor though so you guys see it do you see it cillian i don't know who that is

04:32:21.700 it's cillian murphy is it not right cillian i thought it was cillian a little bit here's the

04:32:25.940 one from from my wife oh a little bit yeah i rate myself i i i'm currently a five because i've

04:32:38.260 i got a dad bod right now i need to lose a bit of weight i'll get back to a six and then if i you

04:32:43.940 get really fit i think i can hit seven if i if i'm like jacked and get a six pack i can get back there

04:32:50.500 i used to be very fit in my younger days unfortunately can we see some photos i could

04:32:56.500 show you some photos but we'll do we'll do not that but it's not great i've actually i've never

04:33:04.420 sent a nude photograph ever good i don't think i don't think men should send it i've never sent a

04:33:10.660 nude photo before i did okay i did wait so okay

04:33:15.460 we got the two tents here at the table um

04:33:26.500 look at my teeth look at my skin this is all my hair i think i'm beautiful

04:33:35.540 yeah

04:33:35.780 i'm watching you bry

04:33:44.980 all right you want me to humble myself nine

04:33:46.820 okay does that make you happy i'll humble myself for you

04:33:51.060 you're a time thank you well you said you can't walk it back now that'd be shifting the goal post so

04:33:56.020 we got two tens here um hubris don't you think it's a bit of hubris you know to say you're at

04:34:04.820 ten you know a little modesty never hurt anybody you know um self-love is what i'm all about so oh

04:34:12.420 you could you could self-love and like have a sort of objective self-assessment or reasonable self-assessment

04:34:19.060 of your own physical i believe in confidence and like what if i were to rephrase the question

04:34:25.220 somebody recently messaged me and said brian you should ask the question as it is but then rephrase

04:34:30.180 it a different way so just for you two one of the many ways we evaluate potential partners is by their

04:34:37.060 physical appearance or physical attractiveness i'm sure you could agree so how do you think the dating

04:34:42.420 marketplace would rate your physical attractiveness on a scale of one to ten well everybody is different

04:34:48.660 uh so people let's say you you had a cross-section of men ten thousand the majority of men would rate

04:34:55.220 me um maybe an eight yeah i feel like i'd probably be rated like a seven or eight but i feel like i'm a

04:35:02.900 ten so i mean you know i'm gonna humble myself you know but i feel like i take good care of myself

04:35:10.340 i barely wear any makeup all i got is mascara i take good care of my hair so why did the why did your

04:35:15.700 answer shift when because they said rate your looks right there looks not what you think a guy

04:35:22.260 not what would rate you because he but that's what stepmeister said right but it's sort of like if

04:35:30.260 if a hundred thousand people tell you for example if you average it out they give you a seven for

04:35:35.620 example wouldn't it stand to reason that that in all likelihood it's very it's likely that that's your

04:35:42.500 answer maybe i've never like did a poll or would you disregard the hundred thousand

04:35:49.220 men who have just given you an average and say oh well i i disregard that i still view myself

04:35:56.340 as a 10 because i believe i'm i'm among the most beautiful women to uh have ever existed basically

04:36:04.340 i wouldn't say one of the most beautiful i think the most beautiful is beyonce

04:36:08.980 like you can't you can't compare women to each other let me let me ask you a question

04:36:13.220 we're talking about everyone oh okay you're beautiful everyone's beautiful i'm a five it's

04:36:18.420 okay thank you it's okay everyone do you think beyonce is more attractive than you hell yeah well how

04:36:24.180 can you be a 10 then if because i'm not beyonce i'm andrea and andrea is a 10 but just looks but

04:36:29.940 okay but if you if you've if you can at least admit that there's a woman who's more attractive than you

04:36:35.220 then how do you come to the conclusion that you're a 10 out of 10 because beauty comes in

04:36:39.140 different looks all different shapes and sizes and colors brian come on now well perhaps you're

04:36:47.380 you're there's a differential there but you just said that beyonce's despite the fact that she's a

04:36:54.020 different race than you you just said that she's more attractive than you despite her race

04:36:58.100 beyonce yeah everybody's beautiful everybody's beautiful everybody's beautiful in their own way

04:37:04.900 i feel like all would you date donald trump

04:37:08.820 good guy i probably would 100 respect to green shirt girl for finally being honest

04:37:19.860 thank you brixton's flannel uh appreciate it wait okay so don't you think it's a little delusional

04:37:26.180 you know to say i'm a 10 you know a little modesty a little modesty a little you know i'm very

04:37:32.660 confident and wouldn't the confident thing be to say i am i said myself i'm a seven and i own it

04:37:42.180 if i believe that i was a seven then yes oh so you believe in your heart of hearts that you are

04:37:47.700 a 10 out of 10 yes yeah in terms of your physical appearance yeah question for you are you wearing

04:37:53.940 color contacts no okay hazel she wants to see oh wow that hazel yeah i've had plastic surgery done

04:38:06.260 really does that they're really real yeah that's why i rate myself a 10. have you guys had filler or

04:38:12.660 anything like that they're real no filler i've had no lip filler it's gone no botox

04:38:20.420 okay all right um checkers may dispute

04:38:25.540 you think i have botox oh no i think the 10 rating is what she was

04:38:31.540 um do you guys so because you guys are a 10 do you feel like you deserve a guy who's a 10 no i've

04:38:37.540 dated guys that are oh fives but when you date a guy who's a five do you feel like you're kind of

04:38:46.660 settling for him not at all oh but you're a 10 so why should you be with a five if you're a 10 because

04:38:52.580 i date people for their heart really yeah but you see both of you objected to you you both made a

04:39:03.380 dimension of like having an issue when you're it's a little different but if your boyfriend cheated

04:39:09.700 with a woman who was uglier like what but so you brought looks into it i wanted him to cheat with

04:39:14.340 someone that's prettier no but you question like why did these men always cheat with ugly women so

04:39:18.900 like you do sort of view things in like a physical attractiveness lens to some degree yeah you're

04:39:25.380 right i do was that you are right you got me there i ain't gonna cap you you got me there right

04:39:33.780 honestly i didn't really answer that question you answered it the same yeah that same message

04:39:41.300 because i didn't really know like uh wait okay here's another question going around the table

04:39:45.620 related to the one to ten thing do you think you will be more physically attractive in 10 years time

04:39:52.180 starting with you going around the table god no i think so you're 25 aging like fine wine i think

04:40:00.980 it just depends i follow this one lady on instagram and she's 65 and she is beautiful and she still had

04:40:07.060 the same body no i'm not even kidding i could pull her up she does not even look 65 but i think it's

04:40:14.820 it's because she gets filler

04:40:18.740 is that a horse is someone laughing like that or is that like oh that's a little much

04:40:25.780 that's how i laugh

04:40:29.620 you done yeah it's uh i was pretty look look you can still be i'm not saying you can't be

04:40:35.460 physically attractive when you get old 35 isn't even old i think you're 35 34 34 oh

04:40:41.060 do you think the 65 year old or whatever was more attractive at 25 oh yeah okay i mean yeah

04:40:49.780 obviously with age because then people get old and wrinkly and blah blah blah so but not 10 years

04:40:54.900 probably like 25 more years well so to answer the question though will you be more physically

04:40:58.980 attractive in 10 years yes so you'll be more physically attractive at 35 than you are now at 25

04:41:04.420 yes what about in 20 years probably not because i'll be getting old well what where's the why is

04:41:09.380 there a differential so you're saying that currently your looks are going like this and then at some

04:41:15.300 point yeah i mean you get older yeah you know wrinkles and you know but isn't it basically like

04:41:21.700 my understanding when it comes to aging for both men and women when it comes to wrinkles and stuff

04:41:26.820 now we can have a conversation of like you know gray fog or what you know there's some differences

04:41:32.660 there but my understanding is like you hit 18 19 20 and then like these signs the actual signs the

04:41:42.500 biological signs of aging you get grown woman fine that 18 19 20 that's like kid 21 after that that's

04:41:50.020 a grown woman fine those are adults but i'm we're talking about just no but we're just talking we're

04:41:55.780 having a conversation about like the biological reality of aging and you pretty much i mean 18 19 20

04:42:03.940 and then you know you start progressively getting wrinkles there's changes to your skin

04:42:11.140 i feel like after you turn like 30 30 38 is when you start wrinkling yeah it just depends i guess you

04:42:20.820 know because like if you're you know had that melanin in your skin then you know they don't really get

04:42:26.820 as much wrinkles as like the uh caucasian people so it just depends like you know your genes play a

04:42:34.900 part yeah play a big what's the peak of power for a man that age what would you say 25 i'm pretty sure

04:42:41.700 that's what they say like yeah it's when you but what would you say and you and you and you and you

04:42:47.460 like 25 30 28 the peak for a man yeah like when he's like 30 like 35 30. if we're talking about

04:42:57.060 peak physical appearance or are we talking about the day physical physical appearance

04:43:02.340 not not this time okay but no just when you know i got a little salt and pepper coming into the beard

04:43:08.020 i shaved today you know is it when they get the most good looking or when they're yeah looks wise

04:43:13.540 just no i think men are a little bit older like because like 30 well there's a there is a bit of

04:43:19.220 a differential but uh so going back to you though will you be more physically attractive in 10 years

04:43:24.980 i'm gonna make sure i stay beautiful you may very well still be attractive in 10 years but that's

04:43:32.100 not the question yeah so i'm gonna try probably not but i'm gonna try my best okay what about you

04:43:37.380 five years from now yes 10 years from now no natalie no if i i guess if i could take care of myself

04:43:46.100 then maybe yeah but you'd only be 29 as well so oh that's true that's not that's not i think yeah

04:43:58.180 but so okay that the the question here is not

04:44:01.300 we're referring to the attractiveness of age and not other factors so if you were your best weight

04:44:08.580 and health at 25 you would be more attractive than your best weight and health at 35 you can't like

04:44:14.980 so it's you're conflating like this super unhealthy overweight self at 25 to like this potential peak

04:44:23.940 weight and health at 35 but if you compare it that's not an equal comparison if you compare your

04:44:32.100 peak self at 25 to your peak self at 35 i mean i think it's the answer to this is undeniable indisputable

04:44:40.180 yeah yeah i don't argue with that i mean either you're right you're right brian you want a debate

04:44:46.420 all right uh still tens still tens okay i'm gonna keep pushing back a little bit then uh let's see

04:44:57.620 um i'm trying to think where i go with this um we stumped you i'll tell you here

04:45:04.900 loose pussy energy donated 100 dollars thank you said no one ever even stevie can see yala high

04:45:13.140 calorie three hundred and fours the two meatballs need to chill the out brian abdul is sending extra

04:45:20.660 large rocks hashtag delusional number eight at 18. get the rocks shots fired it get the rock get the

04:45:28.340 rocks yeah thank you lp appreciate it uh we have marcus david somebody like shaking the table i think

04:45:35.380 it's all right it's all good every man would rate you with whatever you'd want to hear take you to bed

04:45:40.740 and then that's it prove it wrong let's see okay thank you marcus david you guys have a response to this

04:45:47.380 i have god they're real tonight yeah i have a potential man that i could be in a relationship with so

04:45:54.580 no that why aren't you enough um i don't feel like i'm ready for a relationship but he does everything

04:46:01.380 that a man would do for his girlfriend oh okay i'll tell you kind of why i push back on this is because

04:46:07.460 do you guys want an average woman or sorry oh my god what did they say yeah well they might be

04:46:18.260 they might go that way do you guys want an average man

04:46:24.900 average define average average man do you want an average looking sure average looking just average

04:46:31.140 average average that do i want an average man i would probably prefer someone that's not so

04:46:38.820 average yes i would i would like a 10 out of 10 woman who's a billionaire sure but whether i can get

04:46:44.180 her or not that's another question um would you be do you recognize that you may very well end up with

04:46:51.300 an average man or have to i wouldn't say i have to well you don't certainly you don't have to you

04:46:57.140 just you love who you love that's what it comes down to at the end of the day if he's that love is love

04:47:01.460 i mean you think he's average maybe to the other person but to me like me think he may be the hottest

04:47:06.500 guy in the world that doesn't mean everybody else is going to think that okay so it's like am i settling

04:47:13.380 no because i love him i think he gorgeous love is blind so an average man could be everything to

04:47:18.820 someone that's in love okay but there's just there's just sort of the the statistical reality

04:47:26.420 if we assume that most people are average or fall within the average then aren't they

04:47:33.140 isn't it fair to say that they ought to partner up with somebody who is also average no not necessarily

04:47:39.940 this kind of interestingly enough goes back to our do the conversation about a guy with a high

04:47:46.900 body count desiring a woman with a low body count what i see is a lot of average women don't want

04:47:52.580 average men so again a lot of women desire traits and partners that they themselves possess you have

04:47:59.220 average women who are chasing after men who are quite frankly out of their league and so my pushback

04:48:05.780 on the whole self-assessment of being a 10 thing really just boils down to uh what i see is a major

04:48:13.460 issue going on in the dating marketplace average women don't want average men average average women

04:48:18.820 think they're above average or a 10 thus you have average women that are going to be chasing after

04:48:23.940 exceptional or above average men you have average women who are going to reject men who are

04:48:30.100 commensurate to them in terms of their appearance or their social social standing or social status so

04:48:36.020 you're going to reject the men who are actually on your level you're going to if you happen to find

04:48:41.620 yourself down the road in a relationship with this sort of man after you've perhaps attempted to

04:48:46.260 chase after men who are outside of your league um you're going to ultimately end up having contempt

04:48:52.740 contempt for the men that you end up settling with um you're probably not going to be satisfied in the

04:48:58.660 relationship because you're going to be pining for this exceptionally attractive guy who perhaps you

04:49:02.740 got his divided attention a lot of women get caught up in these situationships friends with benefits

04:49:08.100 fuck buddies one night stand situations uh fuck boys whatever it may be and uh

04:49:18.340 but you'd almost prefer having the divided attention of a hyper attractive man because you can get his

04:49:24.500 sexual attention you're not going to get his romantic attention you're not going to get his

04:49:28.420 marriage attention you're not going to get his relationship and commitment attention uh

04:49:32.980 uh because there's there's a differential here so as a man if i can sleep with a girl there's a

04:49:40.420 pretty high likelihood that i can get her in a relationship but you can't say this the same in the

04:49:45.860 reverse like if you can sleep with a guy that doesn't mean you can necessarily get him into a

04:49:52.660 relationship so this is where women get into trouble because when you have the wop you could

04:49:56.820 definitely definitely definitely get him is that what is that what you think gets you gets you into

04:50:01.860 a relationship not necessarily but that's pussy that's really i've never heard you need to bring

04:50:06.340 a lot more to the table than sex to get a man yeah right but you you just cited your wet wet ass

04:50:12.980 pussy i thought if you have if you if i could get a man into a relationship if i try you think so and any

04:50:23.380 man um no i'm not saying any man but if i really want to i feel like i could the majority you think

04:50:29.940 so okay i mean it's a it's a bit of a delusional uh take so you you think that

04:50:41.540 of the men that you could that would sleep with you you could get them all into most of them or all

04:50:46.820 of them into relationships majority she's managed to get 5 000 so far so i'd like to think

04:50:57.860 anyways um it just occurs to me that like i got madison's number didn't i

04:51:07.860 well here's here's a complaint that i hear from a lot of women there's

04:51:10.660 they're struggling to get commitment they're in situationships they get cheated on and it does

04:51:15.060 occur to me that perhaps not all the time but perhaps are these women and i don't think women

04:51:22.660 are fully beholden to their hypergamous nature but are they chasing after men who are quite frankly out

04:51:28.740 of their league me personally i don't chase after men okay you don't pursue men i mean never had to

04:51:39.700 they pursue her okay well you're currently in a relationship sort of i mean you were kind of vague

04:51:47.620 about your relationship status but but what yeah i don't i don't pursue men men pursue pursue me um

04:52:01.380 um would i if i had to yes and i think look i think i've had enough experience to know

04:52:12.420 who to go after and when i see a fuck boy i could tell and i wouldn't be going after the

04:52:17.700 fuck boy here's a big difference right so okay as a man

04:52:21.460 if a man can have sex with a woman who of a certain physical attractiveness level that he would

04:52:31.060 i'm not saying all men do this right but there's enough out there where it can certainly present a

04:52:35.140 problem in the dating marketplace so a man will sleep with a woman a woman maybe even keep her around

04:52:41.460 for casual sex might even keep her around as a friends with benefits but just based off of her looks

04:52:47.620 she will never get commitment but that almost rarely happens the other way and so what ends up

04:52:54.100 happening women can sleep outside of their league as a guy i can't sleep with women out of my league

04:53:00.740 like for casual sex like i can't like if i'm gonna just go for casual sex and i'm not inclined to do it

04:53:07.620 like i might i'm going down i'm looking down right now the girl i want to be in a relationship with

04:53:12.980 i want parody there i want her to be on my level looks wise right but like for a casual sexual

04:53:18.740 encounter nickelodeon donated one hundred dollars if it's so easy call up ombre and make it official

04:53:26.580 she said it out loud she gets everything a girlfriend needs from a man without the relationship

04:53:32.820 probably hitting dudes on the side sad is it true i'm hitting dudes on the side i don't know i'm

04:53:39.860 asking if it's true i'm not hitting dudes on the side i would make most of my content is

04:53:45.540 girl girl content sure now here's the difference so for for a thank you nickelodeon for a woman to

04:53:54.980 i'm trying to think the best way to articulate this it's it's sort of like a little complex uh thought but

04:54:02.260 for a woman to have sex with a guy typically he needs to be at least physically attractive enough

04:54:09.220 for her to see herself being in a relationship with him but the same can't be said for men

04:54:15.940 exactly they go after the easy ones right so and so but when and when a woman goes for casual sex

04:54:23.460 she might actually she's gonna like okay well if i'm gonna have casual sex it's gonna be with a really

04:54:28.340 hot dude whereas it's the reverse with men i want the women at the table to rate themselves in comparison

04:54:34.180 to the lady in the first seat with denim okay and if above why feminine cute and realistic self-rating

04:54:41.060 we need more of it in society uh well i mean all the women have already rated their their looks i'm

04:54:46.740 not sure that's quite strange they did already i don't know if you saw uh we're here when they

04:54:50.740 already did the one to ten i don't know what i mean if you guys want you can in comparison to

04:54:58.820 i don't want to rate it yourself they are just saying that lillian is the hottest one i guess

04:55:03.620 they're saying that's what they're saying i don't know if you look at her twitter yourself you're

04:55:08.420 very beautiful thank you but that's true so

04:55:16.020 where was i

04:55:18.980 i guess what i'm trying to say is that if you and why i think it's important for women to have a

04:55:26.260 realistic self-assessment of their own physical attractiveness in the dating marketplace is if

04:55:32.740 you've gassed yourself up to the point where you think you're perhaps more attractive than you

04:55:37.860 actually are you're perhaps going to chase men who you think are on your level but actually are out in

04:55:45.780 in actuality in reality objectively are out of your league they'll never give you commitment

04:55:51.140 you're gonna spend your 20s jumping from next exciting guy to next exciting guy next hot guy

04:55:59.140 next fuck boy uh you're gonna start getting baggage and trauma and all this stuff and then

04:56:07.460 you're gonna wait to settle down in your 30s and you're gonna settle down you're gonna view like

04:56:11.940 you're settling down for a guy who's actually on your level who there's parody with

04:56:16.340 it's probably a terrible that's a catastrophic recipe likely for divorce um because you're gonna

04:56:26.260 view your partner with contempt oh why couldn't i get one of the hot dudes in my youth you know when

04:56:30.580 i was younger to commit to me he's not as good in bed he's not as hot he's not as sexy

04:56:37.060 and uh that's what's going on not all women of course but a lot of women spending their 20s just

04:56:41.540 casual sex yeah i agree i feel like a lot of women that are dating men um these days are

04:56:50.900 not not doing it in a smart way you have to pick your men you're gonna pick the men you sleep with

04:56:57.380 because like he said most of the men that you sleep with are not going to commit to you

04:57:00.900 and they won't even take you on dates they don't see you procreating with them

04:57:03.940 yeah yeah but the guy here's the problem the guy who is prepared to commit to you he's

04:57:12.900 he might not be as attractive he might not be as attractive as the guys who

04:57:19.460 i love the data bot i'm not i don't want a man with a six pack i don't look just look for looks

04:57:26.420 but the the different the differential here is that as a guy if i'm like trying to hit up a girl who's out

04:57:33.300 of my league men get rejected on the front end women will get rejected on the back end you might

04:57:39.940 get rejected like months down into a situationship when this guy had no intention of committing to

04:57:45.540 you and i think frankly that's a scummy way for men to move but let's be realistic there are men who

04:57:51.140 are going to move like that and the reality is i mean women are choosing a lot of these men if you

04:57:55.540 look on dating apps for example women swipe on only like the top five top ten percent of men so it

04:58:00.740 just sets women up to be in the situation where while short for their short-term strategy to

04:58:07.060 pursue these like hyper attractive men they might be able to get sex with them so that's where i that's

04:58:12.740 kind of where i'm going with like well as a guy i can't shoot out of my league and like just i can't

04:58:18.980 get it i can't get anything from a girl who's out of my league i can't get casual sex i can't get a

04:58:23.540 relationship i can't get nothing so i get the instantaneous rejection whereas like women you can secure

04:58:29.860 sex from like men who are like way out of your league you might you guys might even have dudes

04:58:35.140 who are in your dms like athletes musicians rappers but you're just they're not going to give you

04:58:42.900 commitment though but we we've had 19 year old girls who've been on the show who got 500 followers

04:58:48.580 who go to us ucsb and they get they get nba players in their dms like these girls are nobody's not and i'm

04:58:55.860 not saying that to insult them but they have no status they're just normal college girl they got

04:59:01.300 nba players nfl players professional athletes in their dms and then the average 19 year old guy

04:59:08.420 is gonna how's she gonna like comparatively speaking it's like once you've had a certain

04:59:13.700 tier once you've had like a certain attention from a certain caliber of man it's like very hard to like

04:59:20.660 you know when you start making a lot of money you have something called lifestyle creep so if you

04:59:25.860 start if you're making a hundred thousand dollars a month some people like some people still

04:59:35.780 try to keep it simple but like you're gonna start having lifestyle creep and then if you lose all that

04:59:41.940 like if if your financial circumstances change you're gonna have a bit of a shock like having to go back

04:59:48.660 okay shit i'm i got roommates again now if if your circumstances ever do change same thing like

04:59:54.980 have you ever did like you you used to be in uni and you used to go like to the dude's dorm room and

04:59:59.940 he had three roommates like three dudes in his room and then you all of a sudden you date a guy with his

05:00:06.020 own house it's like it's kind of like hard to like to go back to once you've dated somebody who's got

05:00:13.620 like their shit together you know so in the same way that that people have lifestyle creep once they start

05:00:18.100 making a lot of money uh once you start dating a certain caliber of man you start like having

05:00:22.900 dating creep as i'd like to call it and it's like hard to like date the normal average guy once you've

05:00:28.500 had a taste of like a certain tier of man but that tier of man is open to like a much wider uh margin of of

05:00:37.380 women that's true right you have literally facts you just blew my mind let's go okay all right but

05:00:46.820 like for but you have like you know famous guys in your dms and like you know the anything what's

05:00:54.420 like the the most actually natalie has a couple right i really don't want to dox anyone yeah but

05:01:00.660 you said you said in your pre-show notes you did say something about hold on i'm gonna pull it up but

05:01:04.900 i actually don't get a lot of dms i will say that okay like i don't go on well i think i alienate

05:01:10.820 half of the country given my line of work uh to start but well you said you've dated pro athletes

05:01:16.580 and politicians and stuff and um but um yeah i wouldn't recommend do you wait so you think with your

05:01:23.060 job you a lot of men are like turned off from it no no no not my job just i think if you don't

05:01:29.300 have the same political beliefs that i do you probably wouldn't date steve bannon's co-host okay

05:01:35.060 yeah is it so is that the big issue like i feel like guys are they don't guys don't want like

05:01:42.180 liberal feminist yeah i mean it's not a super issue they might want them for like because they're on

05:01:48.260 birth control and like for casual sex or whatever but like i definitely don't i don't know for me it's

05:01:52.820 more it's not just the critique of like oh i'm a republican so i want to date a republican like i would

05:01:57.380 not do well with some like cringe person who just loves tax cuts like i'm very anti-globalist

05:02:02.740 anti-rhino like they need to i'm not even saying they have to necessarily be political honestly i've

05:02:07.380 kind of learned that i don't like dating i don't like actually dating people in politics or frankly

05:02:12.660 even talking about it in my like actual life but it's just nice to have some level i think of overlap

05:02:18.500 in terms of just like when i say rhino people aren't like you're like morals and beliefs yeah

05:02:23.060 yeah but you did say in your pre-show notes here that you some dating pro athletes but you don't

05:02:29.780 learn no details can i at least ask any uh nfl no nba no nhl no hockey players and hockey no golf golf

05:02:42.100 golf oh shit there's a posh boys w what is that the wga or what is it pga not live would they take

05:02:50.100 you out on dates or would they be like come on you know but it was sort of what you were like we

05:02:55.780 were dating but it was i don't know i had suspicions that there was other stuff going on

05:03:01.220 and it's just like you said i think kind of comes with that lifestyle and yeah well professional

05:03:07.220 athletes i've watched a lot i love this show so i've watched a lot of episodes and i've even like

05:03:12.500 turned a bunch of my friends on to it and the point of hypergamy is so profound and i really

05:03:18.500 think that that was something that i just like had never really been exposed to the idea i don't know

05:03:25.700 i think people just have a hard time like accepting that it's okay to be normal it's okay to be average

05:03:30.500 because it is average so it's like everyone's always going after that like you know lamborghini

05:03:35.700 driving like billionaire and i don't think all women not all women but some and i am glad in

05:03:42.740 some ways some of the worst relationships of my life my life has been with like those kind of

05:03:47.540 types and i realized that at least for me like that life is just not very fulfilling

05:03:51.940 um and that those people are not really into commitment or wanting to settle down so it's like

05:03:56.100 yeah you could have fun with them and date them but any any badminton i actually love that i used

05:04:01.940 to play competitive table tennis and i was any any footballers of soccer yeah soccer we call that

05:04:08.180 soccer here soccer soccer really you call it soccer like it's more of the political realm no that that's

05:04:16.100 what we call football yeah but they're cringe have you like senators you just shut on them they're

05:04:22.900 fucking cringe i think all senators are married so really okay that's where they don't congressman

05:04:28.340 they don't fuck people do they well that this is a whole other episode of podcast they they are

05:04:33.700 doing some interesting things in the capitol hill hearing rooms um video yeah we had uh we had

05:04:39.940 madison cawthorne on matt let me just say madison cawthorne is definitely right there are a lot of

05:04:44.500 weird things that go on in washington oh for sure wait i saw the video what's happening in the

05:04:48.260 you know what i'm talking about you haven't seen the video yeah i'll show you on the meeting room

05:04:52.900 it's wild right in amy klobuchar it's going on in dc yeah um uh you also said in your appreciation

05:05:00.180 wait really quick i so i blew your mind i feel like i kind of meandered a bit too long with my

05:05:05.060 point there but um you're just been facts bro thank you brother thank you thank you what do i search for

05:05:10.260 women uh you said natalie that i don't even remember what i wrote you're a big believer in attachment

05:05:17.860 theory and i feel like everyone is just stuck in the anxious avoidant trap i also feel like a lot

05:05:21.940 of guys are just purporting to be trad looking for wives in my experience a lot of married guys are

05:05:27.780 also extremely unfaithful if given the opportunity yeah i'm a big attachment theory person i myself am

05:05:35.620 definitely an anxious attacher and i think the idea of like the chase um situationships is really just

05:05:42.020 the anxious avoidant trap i think i would say exacerbated by the difference in female and male

05:05:47.700 sexuality that just disparity and how people attach um but yeah i get a lot of just dms and

05:05:55.860 i mean i don't get a lot of dms from like the verified blue check mark people but just in like

05:06:00.020 the political world a lot of conservatives who are very outspoken about their conservative values

05:06:07.140 uh i don't think they really practice them i know you've had isabella to luke on the show and

05:06:11.860 she like showed dms of a guy who purports to be very bad um so just stuff like that but it's but

05:06:18.820 honestly i think it's more sort of par for the course like in washington dc um frankly that's why

05:06:24.340 i'm moving out because it's just a really gross culture it's a bunch of people who like weren't cool

05:06:29.700 in high school and then get a semblance of power that's actually a really profound way of describing

05:06:36.020 politics yeah no it's really true so the white house looks painting it white yeah yeah yeah well

05:06:45.620 yeah even look at look at hunter biden's life again not it's not even about him like republicans are

05:06:50.420 doing that kind of stuff too but it's just very degenerate yeah um so but you're saying that like a

05:06:57.380 lot of these guys there's like a lot of unfaithfulness is that what's going on yeah i mean i don't really

05:07:04.820 even like in the capital is that what you're saying unique to me like just there's so many

05:07:09.380 affairs congressional that are exposed or yeah or otherwise um but like bill clinton yeah bill

05:07:16.660 clinton but even like for example that capitol hill sucks tape right like that was not a one-off

05:07:23.780 right there's a lot of stuff that happened it was at the game one yeah there's like that was so out

05:07:28.900 there so you can only imagine the more tame stuff that happens and that stuff is peddled as blackmail

05:07:34.980 like it is it's not conspiratorial like they use it so we have uh some notes here we have atlantis right

05:07:42.980 or yeah you gave us some pre-show notes here is that your government name uh yes some of my friends

05:07:50.420 call me atlas oh cool that's my that's my last name that's cool getting you said getting cheated

05:07:57.620 on and finding out how and who and with who and you said some incidents during sexual intercourse

05:08:10.260 so you just to be clear you found out during sexual intercourse you're being cheated on

05:08:15.780 no no no no um so this happened in my last relationship my only relationship i've ever

05:08:20.420 been in um i was lurking on instagram and it was kind of hard because his account was private

05:08:26.420 and i never followed it back when we had gotten back together so i it um when you go on instagram

05:08:33.700 the suggested accounts pop up and i was clicking through every girl because i don't know i had like

05:08:37.700 a feeling and i clicked on this one girl's instagram and there was a picture of them and

05:08:43.700 yeah a picture of them yeah like she posted it could be innocent no it was like a couple's

05:08:50.020 costume and he was like kissing her on the cheek oh yeah and he's like a very big guy like girls and

05:08:57.620 guys can't just be friends so i was like that is not one of his homegirls is this your boyfriend he

05:09:02.020 was my boyfriend at the time yeah uh over like a year and a half did you get revenge on him did you

05:09:06.980 crash his car no i didn't know that that got bumped into that wasn't oh yeah yeah yeah it was like an

05:09:15.060 accident yeah it was totally legit insurance fraud okay maybe i don't know um the types of guys there

05:09:24.500 are so you said the types of guys there are and how to look out for them getting cheated on slash doing

05:09:28.580 the cheating so you were also cheating though no you said getting getting cheated on and doing the

05:09:41.300 cheating i said that yeah i don't i don't remember you didn't do the cheating no i no cheating never

05:09:47.540 cheated zero cheating zero okay i was very faithful so that's you said the types of guys there are and

05:09:52.580 how to look out for them what do you mean by that like okay so like with him he had

05:09:58.260 lied about his body count when we first started getting to know one another because he said he

05:10:03.060 liked me so much and i think when he when i confronted him about the cheating that i caught you know it was

05:10:09.620 in person because i know how he is and it's just it's not that it's the fact that he lied about it

05:10:17.780 yeah wait so he lied like it was lower or higher he said it he said it was lower but it was actually

05:10:23.620 higher oh okay how did you find out well i confronted him in person about the cheating

05:10:30.660 and like we were like talking for like a couple of hours okay how much did you lie about well i

05:10:38.820 actually had to get it out of him because i am ended up hitting up some other girls and you were like

05:10:44.340 how many girls would be fucked yeah and he was basically dating me and that girl at the same time

05:10:49.940 and trying to get with like five or six other girls on the other side so how much was the difference

05:10:56.500 that he'd lied about sorry like you know if he said oh it's five when really it was 25

05:11:02.580 body count the body count yeah like was there a big difference or was it he said it was like in

05:11:07.220 the double digits uh and he said it was like one or two yeah yeah so you say modern dating nowadays

05:11:13.940 is stupid everybody everyone wants to have sex and i'm a relationship girl so it's hard as hell you've

05:11:18.660 only ever had one boyfriend and shit went down yeah that was the thing that went down oh that's it

05:11:24.740 that's the story i thought when you say goes like it shit went down some like major drop like i mean

05:11:30.020 i'm not well he cheated i didn't like act out like scream at him and start hitting him and throwing

05:11:35.140 shit like no that's not me because you say in your next answer or thing you say i tend to get crazy like

05:11:40.980 crazy obsessive to a point and i frustrate myself and the guy with that trying to fix that crazy how

05:11:48.660 yeah so i tend to get like very obsessive at times okay um where like my friends are like what the

05:11:58.420 fuck like why do you think that way and it's usually like uh i kind of have an attachment issue i mean

05:12:05.940 like it wasn't that i was like i wasn't attached to him are you like a stalker is that it no no i did not

05:12:12.340 you tend to get crazy like crazy and he's crazy in all caps you are crazy in all caps i mean i stalked

05:12:19.220 one guy but like we never even dated no he was my first love so i make an exception wait you stalked him

05:12:24.420 yeah really not like not like in the way you think like joe goldberg yeah not following him around just

05:12:32.980 like on his social just like stalking his social media yeah basically yeah okay all right we have

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05:13:00.820 appreciate it uh also we have just one chat here we have a chat from marcus david frankly but marcus

05:13:07.460 david besides your body what do you really have to offer to a high value man whoa marcus david is this

05:13:15.220 in response to her wop comments is that what this is about i think this might be directed at you because

05:13:21.780 you mentioned the wop what else what else besides the wop companionship your heart

05:13:28.180 companionship companionship my heart i could cook um yeah i could be a great mother

05:13:38.820 i give head really really well

05:13:41.140 i love anal that's why i stick to anal sex yeah okay but yeah i have a lot to offer not just sex

05:13:57.140 i i want to play something for this uh there's a i have such a good soundboard thing but

05:14:03.060 okay whatever is it really that she was a whore like you guys she was a whore what like um we're

05:14:13.780 saying anal and i'm like is it really that good for like you because like i personally enjoy i've

05:14:19.220 done it quite a lot like i get my whole fist up there now that like it's it's very like it i don't

05:14:26.020 find it painful because it's quite stretched out that's a different kind of different kind of orgasm

05:14:32.420 like for him or for for for both for both what i'm sorry what really what say it again

05:14:39.380 so i can get my whole fist up there

05:14:40.900 like yours or his no no no not like a guy's out things fall out at random no no so it's not gaping

05:14:51.220 it goes back but yeah like if a guy is like fucking me yeah i'll gape a little bit but not

05:14:56.900 when like i'm like normal right now like i haven't gone when it's been stretched out yeah and like also

05:15:04.020 if you do it with your own hand like it's you know you can feel you like how you feel i'd like to uh

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05:15:29.060 beautiful that was really just i hope that gave you like a nice like picture of me with like my

05:15:35.940 please don't say that okay we have sorry don't tempt don't don't uh not tempt don't don't put it

05:15:44.500 in my brain don't put it in my brain okay we have uh hilly jr hey thank you man men's body count and

05:15:52.420 women's body count question mark cheating is bad but body counts isn't the same for both genders

05:15:58.420 one takes game and one takes just being present okay so i see what you're trying to say here

05:16:05.940 basically uh and again i don't think promiscuity is good in men or women however there's you know we

05:16:13.860 often hear well why why is it when you know if a woman sleeps with a lot of men she's she's viewed

05:16:20.020 as a slut but a guy's viewed as a stud that's not fair right now look again i don't think promiscuity

05:16:26.740 is good in men but the difference is it's hard to be a stud it's easy to be a slut it's actually

05:16:35.460 not really that hard when you have like really a lot of easy girls out there it's still pretty hard

05:16:41.700 it's hard i feel like it's hard to be like these days you guys all failed at picking madison simply

05:16:47.220 things like i didn't like just tinder so easily so um tinder tinder like men on tinder won't get

05:16:54.500 many matches if if so any and me i'm not the prettiest girl in the world but i'm also not the

05:16:59.700 ugliest i get like i when i had it i had 15 000 likes in a matter of two days and i i like i compared

05:17:09.860 it with one of the dudes that i was just that i worked with at the time and he had like 150 and he

05:17:14.820 had tinder for yeah because guys are out there trying to fuck no but the thing is is guys will

05:17:20.740 they have to be a slag i was told it's called fishing with a big net at least on tinder where

05:17:26.100 they they literally will swipe right on every single woman every single women are so selective

05:17:31.940 with who they are like yes no yes no especially just on looks so at least yeah i agree with that

05:17:37.700 statement becca can back up on this but it's what men swipe right 44 of the time women it's 14

05:17:43.700 something like that yeah it's i mean you have women who are swiping yes on only like the top five top

05:17:51.300 10 of men um it's a very small portion of men whereas the vast majority of men on dating apps are

05:17:57.140 absolutely just getting blanked they're not they're getting barely any matches and then they're not

05:18:02.340 getting any meetups and when they do get a meetups they get flaked on or you know it doesn't go anywhere

05:18:07.220 so um i feel like because the women are actually there to find somebody uh the majority of the men

05:18:14.100 are just there to have fun uh it's when yeah when women are on tinder they women won't it's so hard to

05:18:23.540 put into perspective men will sleep with almost everybody so they'll swipe right on almost everybody

05:18:29.700 however they won't date all of them and a lot of men aren't gonna go on tinder to date they're going on

05:18:35.620 tinder to get their you know what what versus women when they're on tinder they're looking for

05:18:40.340 someone okay yeah are they well it's it's like it's embedded in us at least for me i don't know

05:18:47.220 about you guys i'm not going to swipe right on somebody that i'm not potentially going to see

05:18:51.300 myself with i agree with you generally but i think the like the current social climate i think a lot of

05:18:57.060 women are like either pressured through in their friend group because they're like they almost want

05:19:04.260 to justify their own promiscuity by like encouraging their friends to also engage in casual sex so

05:19:11.220 they feel less um but i i do think there's like this whole there's a bit i do think there's a bit of

05:19:22.260 a trope that it's like women are just looking for relationships and men are just looking for sex

05:19:27.700 i think men are also desire uh desire relationships and i also think women

05:19:33.780 willingly engage in casual sex yes but they want to engage in casual sex with someone that they

05:19:38.740 couldn't see themselves with physically see themselves yes yes i will say and you're making

05:19:46.020 some really good points most women can sleep with most men most men cannot sleep with most women women

05:19:52.660 sleep with who they want men sleep with who they can when it comes to what he was saying i would argue

05:19:58.580 any woman any woman has the capacity to be a slut any woman has the capacity to sell sex very few men

05:20:06.740 have the capacity to be a slut very few men have the capacity to sell sex yep i think most guys don't

05:20:14.260 really be getting like that like almost any woman even if she's old or unattractive even if she's old

05:20:22.820 or unattractive overweight if she wanted to sell pussy if she wanted to sell sex she could find a buyer

05:20:30.980 i would argue

05:20:34.260 i don't think i don't think i could sell dick i don't think i could sell dick

05:20:38.420 you can sell gay porn no no no no it has to be straight if i'm gonna sell sex

05:20:48.420 gay porn sounds like you could probably sell to guys because i don't know i don't want to do that

05:20:55.220 women are very clearly the limiting factor because if you take women out as the variable and you look

05:20:59.940 at the way like gay men use grind or those relationships like they're known as a lot

05:21:03.620 oh i would be very popular with the men i know this but i'm not gonna do i wouldn't do it hypothetically

05:21:11.940 hypothetically but no i wouldn't want i would not i would not do that so i will say this though since

05:21:19.140 she brought up grinder straight guys probably you know they can it's hard for them to be studs but

05:21:24.500 gay guys well that's different though grinder is crazy like i've had a friend that's different

05:21:30.260 though that's so it's yeah but that's when you take women out is the like restraint on the

05:21:34.900 sexuality aspect i think that shows the difference but the difference is if we're talking within a

05:21:40.580 like a heterosexual framework then yeah they can't be really yeah but it's like that for straight men

05:21:48.100 that doesn't that's not really helpful yeah no like two guys together like oh you can't you can't

05:21:54.340 get laid with women just go fuck men like i don't know if that's the solution maybe some of them

05:21:59.300 probably do probably but you don't even have to you could do solo content yeah and also i do i do

05:22:05.380 think you could probably do it you've got a big platform now i know some people you'd get a lot

05:22:10.820 of subscribers brian's flannel brian's flannel would be your top subscriber

05:22:18.020 yeah they've already spent like hundreds of onlyfans.com whatever would you ever date a whatever fan

05:22:23.540 like like like a female that you met from well yeah it's like from the show yeah she's shooting

05:22:28.340 her shot no no i i just am always curious with people who have shows that they would date

05:22:45.860 i'm cupid i would yeah yeah that that wouldn't i mean i feel like that's actually

05:22:51.940 an optimum situation really yeah but i know what you do i'm not because well i bring this up because

05:22:58.500 i just saw the super chat that was saying if i would assume that i'm the blonde conservative yeah

05:23:03.780 yeah um that if i was definitely well perhaps i'm spoiled in this way but like i think very few men

05:23:10.580 will have the experience of having women pursue them and uh i mean like it's nothing crazy but

05:23:20.260 like yeah doing the show like women will contact me who are express romantic interest and that's sort

05:23:26.260 of like a role reversal uh and they're not doing it in this sort of like masculine aggressive way of

05:23:32.100 course i still want to lead in the relationship but i certainly welcome like you know what do they

05:23:37.220 gm is it like hey can i hit it yeah no they're like that would be a turn off oh is it more just

05:23:43.380 like love your part they'll just be like can i be on it and then some girls will go about it in sort

05:23:49.220 of indirect way well they'll like they'll like i like you'll just like no they'll just like ask me

05:23:54.260 a dating question and it's but it's kind of clear that they're like doing it like indirectly to

05:23:59.300 shoot their shot but then other women will be a bit more upfront direct about it oh you're cute

05:24:03.140 or you're handsome whatever uh so yeah i've definitely gotten and i've gotten that i mean

05:24:09.140 it's just like my i'm not um i don't know i i'm not a big fan of uh i don't i don't like chasing

05:24:18.340 because look i've i was on the dating apps and it's fucking brutal on the dating apps people say

05:24:26.420 men love chasing though no i i mean i'm the type of person i'm very like i'm and maybe this is because

05:24:32.500 i'm like i might be autistic i don't know i'm so i'm so up front yeah autism awareness month or

05:24:38.820 something maybe probably no but i'm like i'm i'm a very upfront person like i don't really like the

05:24:46.740 the dance or the game like i'll just be up front and just be like i like you are you interested i

05:24:52.340 mean this isn't do you have a secure attachment style what what's that like are you anxiously

05:24:57.860 attached avoidantly attached or do you not oh no i'd have to look more into that because i'm not

05:25:01.220 really familiar with with the attachment styles but i'm very upfront like i'm oh you like me cool

05:25:07.300 i like you like i'll need to play this game of like feigning disinterest and all this stuff like i'm just

05:25:14.980 i i like to be very upfront with my intentions and um i also i've when i was on dating apps i

05:25:24.500 one of the most frustrating things is like not really knowing where you stand and like a lot of times

05:25:29.220 you'll encounter and this is why i got off the dating apps you'll encounter women who are dating

05:25:34.100 multiple men and it's like i don't want anything to do with a woman who's like entertaining multiple

05:25:42.740 men so i want to only pursue women who display a very very high level of interest in me and if that

05:25:53.700 means that they have to like initiate then i'm i'm fine with that because i don't want to deal

05:26:00.420 like i want to date a woman who has like really high level of interest in me because i've like i

05:26:05.300 said i was on the dating apps i've dealt with the girls that like you go on the date and like

05:26:09.780 they're kind of fence sitters and they're dating multiple men and they're kind of like

05:26:13.700 no i don't want to i don't want to pursue that flannel donated 100 i'm not a prom cuck and of

05:26:20.980 girls are l 304s but they're human listen ladies you're not protecting yourselves online or in life

05:26:29.140 reach out to a sec pro we don't want your herpes but thank you thank you brixton's flannel appreciate

05:26:34.900 it just to finish off on my point so i mean one thing that i really value is obviously a

05:26:39.780 lack of promiscuity and i want a girl who oh we got hillary donated 100 the fact any question of

05:26:50.020 sex or dating goes to the topic of only fans shows the pathetic culture we live in today

05:26:55.940 if you were to have children would you be proud of the work you do

05:26:59.940 we'll have you guys answer that and then i'll come back to my point go ahead

05:27:04.500 no if you if you were to have children would you be proud of the work you do

05:27:08.340 i don't want children oh okay no i wouldn't okay i wouldn't be ashamed of it sure okay uh well to

05:27:16.020 to wrap up on my point um it's like night and day dating somebody who has like really strong

05:27:24.100 interest in you compared to somebody who's kind of like not that interested and i don't know if like

05:27:29.460 there's a differential there where women kind of i i don't know if this is the case where women

05:27:34.100 perhaps are almost a bit turned off if if a guy's a little too like on them and i'm not saying i

05:27:40.020 want nice when boys are like really like oh i really like you yeah yeah but so i feel like it um

05:27:47.860 like jinxes the whole thing like if i'm dating somebody and they're dating around like that's

05:27:51.460 boring so it's like right if we're talking and you're like still entertaining other females

05:27:55.620 in the beginning of our relationship because you're not sure if i'm talking to other guys like

05:27:59.540 i feel like you know you have to be straight up and say i want to exclusively date you are you in

05:28:04.500 or out well perhaps i'm in i'm extreme in this regard so if i go on the first date with the girl

05:28:09.220 uh if you want a second date you want to see me again all the other dudes have to be a wrap

05:28:15.700 like you can't first date i kind of get it obviously it would be optimal if on the first date you're

05:28:21.860 properly you're properly single we can talk about it like certain like if if the girl is currently

05:28:29.220 sleeping with another guy and she's going on a date with me i don't i do not want you at all

05:28:35.620 um and i hope she would at least be up front with me about that if she's currently having

05:28:40.340 sex with another man that's a major deal breaker but even if you're not but you're dating around

05:28:44.500 dating other dudes i'm not interested i want to date a girl who like almost immediately look i get it

05:28:51.460 if it's our first date maybe look again it's my strong preference what's that so if you know you

05:28:56.740 know it's my strong preference like come to me properly single um because if there's other dudes

05:29:02.260 in the picture like and look some people think this is kind of in the modern in the current dating

05:29:07.460 landscape this is kind of a radical approach to dating because so many people so many people

05:29:13.060 currently when it comes to 2024 modern dating are just dating multiple people and i don't move that

05:29:18.420 way and i don't want the girl that i'm dating to move that way and look i'm not i don't really drink

05:29:22.420 i don't party i don't go to bars i don't go to clubs i don't want that in the partner either

05:29:27.060 um and i think i am able to find that because i've sort of like screened out those i mean just

05:29:32.900 by virtue of me not drinking or doing i mean it's not a guarantee but finding a girl who doesn't really

05:29:38.260 drink doesn't do drugs doesn't smoke doesn't go out of bars and clubs and parties not interested in

05:29:42.900 that type of person um that's certainly a helpful screening mechanism but yeah come come to me

05:29:48.660 properly single that's what i want i want your undivided romantic and sexual attention immediately

05:29:54.340 and look i'll give you a little leeway if you went on a date with a guy but still preferably i'm like

05:29:59.700 i'm still even kind of like hesitating on that so come to me properly single and uh yeah so

05:30:06.980 and if you so for example like you say would i date a fan yeah if you're gonna if you

05:30:11.620 see my show and you like me and you like what i have to say then uh definitely i'm i'm all about

05:30:19.460 it because i have why i'm gonna get a lot of dms tonight well no i mean i'm not i'm not i'm not

05:30:25.780 trying to solicit that don't use long donated 100 long time fan here i think terry's an important issue

05:30:33.460 about promiscuity that hasn't been discussed because we don't have the vocabulary for it

05:30:38.820 would it be possible to chat about it

05:30:43.940 wait a long time i think there's an important issue about promiscuity that hasn't been discussed

05:30:47.380 don't have the vocabulary is the vocabulary donkey schlong um thank you bro um would it be possible

05:30:59.300 to chat about it what's the vocab bro you're gonna have to tell us what the vocab is i don't know what

05:31:02.980 what's uh we did talk we have been talking quite a bit about promiscuity though um but yeah ultimately

05:31:09.700 just comes down to um someone displaying a immediate like high level of interest because

05:31:17.460 yeah i just don't want to deal with a fence that i've been on both sides and once you've like

05:31:21.940 dated somebody who's like really into you it's really hard to go back to the person that's kind

05:31:26.740 of like ignoring your text and they're probably dating other people and it's just like nah like give me

05:31:31.860 the girl who just likes me i like her and that's kind of we don't need to play some like back and

05:31:36.580 forth game so uh but you disagreed you you want to date multiple people at the same time it sounds

05:31:41.620 like yeah i think it's great to have a roster and then also you don't like you don't get your feelings

05:31:46.980 hurt and it it's just nice it's not that hard to date one person at a time but then like you know

05:31:52.900 someone drops off you put another one on to be fair i don't i mean i haven't dated anyone in so long

05:31:57.700 but like when i did use a date i would have a roster and then like what what was the most

05:32:02.980 you've ever had on your roster no only like three or four and these were all men you were like

05:32:09.060 sleeping like yeah sleeping with going on dates with and stuff like that i mean i'm just gonna be

05:32:13.220 super upfront like that's disgusting no offense i'm not trying to like say that to be rude but like

05:32:17.940 like it's the thought of being intimate with a woman who's like just had sex with another guy

05:32:26.260 is repulsive i wouldn't have like come straight from obviously that's very nice of you i would

05:32:32.420 have showered a little bit before maybe like wash it out would you use condoms or no yeah that's no

05:32:38.020 she wouldn't use yeah to me it's just but it's it's different because like these guys i would be

05:32:44.100 dating they'd be doing the exact same yeah it's so like that's fucking disgusting

05:32:53.140 and you don't want to be caught up like oh my gosh i really like this guy like you put all your

05:32:57.220 eggs in one basket you're not really liking them and then they're like dating a whole lot of so but

05:33:02.180 okay so what's the alternative just like okay i'm just gonna fuck a bunch of dudes and just be dating a

05:33:07.860 bunch of people at the same time like i i realize i i acknowledge that if you do the like dating one

05:33:16.180 person at a time like if that person breaks your heart like it's gonna hurt a lot more than

05:33:22.660 like oh well i've got three other girls i can fall back or i got three other guys i get i get that but i

05:33:28.580 think it went from seven to one found the worst part is the man wouldn't know any different

05:33:34.020 no but like i'm dating people who who are sleeping around well they're doing the same thing yeah so

05:33:40.340 it's it's not like i i'm doing them and yeah i think well i think men should stop doing and i think

05:33:45.300 women should stop doing it but then yeah that's just agree to disagree what do you mean agree to

05:33:50.820 disagree well that's just like your view because you only date girls who who would you know be with

05:33:57.460 you and i if i'm doing this i'd only date guys that are doing the same and like obviously these are

05:34:03.460 only on like the first few two or three dates if i actually start to really like someone

05:34:09.860 why would i spend time with other men you know so wait is your argument is your position well i'm

05:34:14.180 trying to protect myself from getting hurt so my solution to the potentiality of getting hurt where

05:34:20.900 i like give all of my attention to one guy is to just a bunch of men at the same time as like a

05:34:27.860 coping mechanism for potential or rejection mechanism it's just protecting your feelings

05:34:33.540 that's cope your your method for coping with well then i guess yeah yeah okay so then you don't end

05:34:40.180 up like look i mean i get i i totally acknowledge that's how a lot of people in the dating marketplace

05:34:45.940 are moving both men and women they're dating multiple people sleeping with multiple people i mean

05:34:50.740 i think it's risky for your health but i also just i would not necessarily like i would if

05:34:57.860 it's good to have comparison as well like here's here comparison you mean when it comes to sex let

05:35:03.220 me no no as in when it comes to dates like if you here i'll hammer the point i'm gonna hammer the point

05:35:07.460 home even if like if the most beautiful woman in the world wanted to just instantly have sex with me

05:35:16.420 but i knew she just had sex with another guy i don't care how hot her body is i don't care how hot

05:35:21.700 she is it's a no i don't even if you are engaged if you're having sex with other men one donated i

05:35:28.500 don't care how hot you are it's a it's a dunzo and find a real man yo thank yo derek thank you bro

05:35:34.260 sdds must not matter to you how are you going to explain this when you get to the wall

05:35:40.020 do better kings and stay true to the mission what's the wall the wall the wall what's it what's

05:35:48.660 the saying the wall never i don't know what is it well i mean if you were sleeping with these guys

05:35:56.740 and you said you're only going to date other performers or only marry another performer is that

05:36:00.340 right yeah yeah what was well no i as long as someone's like happy they know we looked up a stat

05:36:07.700 and we found it what was it uh three years after a porn star gets married oh there's a 25 likelihood

05:36:16.340 that a porn star will have a marriage that lasts three years yeah i i think a lot of porn stars come

05:36:22.740 from trauma and come from broken families and so they don't believe in marriage but personally in my

05:36:29.700 case i do and yeah and so that's but should we encourage them to keep going down that path or

05:36:34.900 help heal that pain and trauma with love honor respect dignity and help these women and whatever

05:36:40.100 that we need because some of these women are out there for money some are out for fame some are out

05:36:43.300 for all types of things and these serious abuse as children is very difficult no i agree a lot of

05:36:49.380 women who are important need therapy like they are folks like obviously i talk to a lot of my colleagues

05:36:55.620 and like the stories that i've been through is awful and very traumatic and yeah just a lot of people in

05:37:01.140 in the industry all i thought but a lot of people in the industry are happily married and have

05:37:06.420 successful relationships as well and do it because they like the lifestyle they like they like sex they

05:37:12.660 like partying well there's always outliers it's a it's a much lesser percentage there is a stat that

05:37:18.820 shows open marriages so people are sleeping with people they're not married to the divorce rate is 92

05:37:24.100 92 percent yeah 92 so it's not a normal thing but i mean yes it's much it's much much lower

05:37:35.540 i have a question for you of girls um does it ever get tired tiring like physically like for so much work

05:37:43.380 do it after a day like if i especially if it's like an actual like porn set after the day i'm exhausted

05:37:52.340 i feel like i run a marathon the other day i was in vegas and i filmed so much um i i told my friend

05:37:59.860 i'm like oh my god like i think i pulled my pussy yeah i had worked so much and i was just like

05:38:06.900 walking a little funny yeah oh definitely like especially because all the guys in porn

05:38:11.780 are huge and so like you can especially if you're working day after day after day

05:38:16.340 well it's not easy at all really sore down there of course um but yeah so it can be like you know

05:38:24.420 yeah yeah definitely and when you go to like a day when you're like really sore and you go to work and

05:38:29.620 you're like okay just take it really slow to start off because it's it hurts do you ever find it like

05:38:35.780 mentally exhausting or do you think more just like physically exhausting definitely yeah mentally as well

05:38:41.220 because like you're having to kind of act most of the time um a little bit of both mostly physically

05:38:50.740 for me yeah and also like if if you're doing the like social media side of things like with or you

05:38:57.060 know that takes a lot and like the hate you get and everything like behind that the social stigmas

05:39:03.380 and just like everything that comes with it is really mentally exhausting it can be hard as well

05:39:07.860 because like people will literally like i'm sure you guys get it dmu oh kill yourself like you're a

05:39:13.380 waste of space like you need to die basically and yeah i just i tend to ignore those i try not to read

05:39:20.660 the comments i'll only read like the ones that i'll like just skim through them i'll only read the ones

05:39:24.900 that i that i want like from the people that i talk to because there is a lot of hate a lot of there's

05:39:31.060 a lot of hate oh yeah what wait did you were you involved with jason love yeah the guy who was the

05:39:42.020 big black cock oh god this girl this girl um oh you just like being like pizza my twitter and then come

05:39:50.500 back no there was a super chat that came in about uh he jason love was with adam 22's wife yes yeah

05:40:00.020 yeah lena who we've had we've had on the show um but so you also you were with him too yeah good

05:40:06.660 times good times yeah he's he's actually really sweet he's very gentle you know what for such a big

05:40:11.780 guy he's very gentle speaking like just he's like it's good well like when i worked with him he was

05:40:17.060 so like let's do whatever you want he was like super nice like just like i want to do the positions

05:40:22.020 you want to do whatever you want to do it's all about you and yeah he was really nice but

05:40:26.660 that's beautiful now did he stretch me out

05:40:35.220 sorry andrew you're disappointing andrew over here is andrew your friend uh i wouldn't say friends

05:40:43.140 but we before his this was a long time ago i this is before his arrest and his cancellation uh i had

05:40:51.300 messaged him with him briefly on instagram back and forth and invited or recommended or not right

05:40:59.620 getting tongue-tied here uh suggested we do collaboration but it never manifested then he

05:41:05.060 shortly thereafter got banned on instagram then he was you know got into trouble so um but i don't know

05:41:11.860 what the status is of his case i don't know anyways we'll see how that plays out we have uh actually

05:41:18.500 wait before i pull this up i had two things i want to say um p.s this is this is for the men watching

05:41:26.260 men you're allowed to have preferences standards and boundaries and i think the very bare minimum

05:41:30.820 my recommendation for men here is if the if a girl is sleeping with another man you don't date her

05:41:38.740 like that to me that's should be obvious it should be self-evident but like that should be the

05:41:44.980 unless you're into that no no no don't well don't be into it because it's it's wrong and it's kind of

05:41:51.380 gross and it's kind of cuck shit so it well i'd say definitely would you would be kind of a cuck if

05:41:58.900 you're into your girl sleeping with other men i do i do think it is like kind of peculiar to

05:42:16.900 get enjoyment from seeing your wife have sex with other men like to me yeah it's called being a cuck

05:42:24.100 you should have is it wrong to shame on and just is it wrong to shame that though i feel like i

05:42:29.540 think it's wrong yeah i think it's wrong to shame yes i do think it is but is it not shameful to

05:42:37.060 like allow your wife to have sex with other men and you're in the corner like

05:42:44.020 i mean if it gets them off it gets them off and it works for them as a that's dysfunctional though i

05:42:49.220 do think it's dysfunctional the world is dysfunctional the world sure but like i just

05:42:54.740 we can't fix everybody we could try but we do not pursue women who are engaged with other men

05:43:00.900 in a sexual capacity i'm sure most of you that's already your standard but don't be shamed don't

05:43:06.820 feel ashamed what do you mean no gentlemen this is this is your new standard from now on if a woman

05:43:13.700 is sexually involved with another men you do not pursue you don't even pursue her for casual sex

05:43:19.140 what about if she's he's a she's involved with another woman i would still say she's still

05:43:25.220 she's having sexual and uh sexual activity with another person i suppose i suppose it's a lot of

05:43:31.940 guys it's not as bad i suppose but it's it's still suboptimal it's undesirable i would argue

05:43:40.500 yeah it's different but it's not uh and also i mean to take it a step further gentlemen

05:43:45.620 you're allowed to have standards and a good standard to have is maybe we can make a change

05:43:52.660 in the world don't date women who are dating other men just a recommendation for you maybe some of you

05:43:57.860 are okay with it maybe you don't care but you're allowed to have standards gentlemen consider it i do

05:44:02.820 want to rekindle a little something between natalie and you girls here at the beginning of the show

05:44:09.700 perhaps i should have brought it up sooner you guys were getting into it let's rekindle it let me

05:44:14.020 stoke the flames stoke the fire okay get back into it madison you can sit here i'll just watch

05:44:20.260 where's the popcorn there wasn't any popcorn them cookies are looking pretty good

05:44:25.780 that have like some form of kettle corn make sure they don't have poop

05:44:29.540 yeah there's no poop in the cookie hey just full circle on that moment because i finally remember

05:44:36.900 but the whole idea is you know we say god loves me i can do whatever i want i got all this grace but

05:44:42.180 just how does it feel to have a god that loves you that much that doesn't need any of us he wants us

05:44:47.780 god is daddy god will always forgive god is the father god god protects you and will forgive you for

05:44:54.500 your sins that's why people go to church because they sin they're there to get better but how does it

05:44:58.980 make you feel uh that you have the god of the universe it makes me feel good god is daddy he's

05:45:05.380 the father he's the father we're the children he's the guy we are the children of god i think one of

05:45:12.820 the things when i fully embraced that though is when i went man you know how good does that feel and i

05:45:19.060 want to love god i want to honor him and sinning is just going against god evil is the absence of god

05:45:23.620 and god is love and when you read that book you go oh my goodness you know he knows a little something

05:45:28.660 about something the creator of the universe but anyways i just want to say that i'm sorry let's

05:45:32.500 rekindle the fire go for it okay natalie cook okay um yeah i mean look i just take issue with the

05:45:40.660 whole thing that is only fans for starters like i said the name of the platform when people and again

05:45:45.460 not to attack you guys personally but they come on here they say oh we're models we're only fans

05:45:49.300 models and my fans pay me this you're not models you guys don't have you know contracts with

05:45:54.660 i never class workers i never classify i never classify as a model only fans models we do we

05:46:00.660 i think we also said we do only fans that's what we said right okay maybe you guys didn't but most

05:46:04.900 people come on the show or a lot of people who do only fans say that they're models i'm just

05:46:07.940 critiquing like the institution as a whole um i think it is just a glamorized lifestyle that

05:46:14.580 is really dependent on selling that lie to other young girls like you were saying who come to you

05:46:20.740 saying i want to start doing only fans you know let me know should i do it like you said you do

05:46:25.300 ultimately give them your referral code but it's just a in part a pyramid scheme financially if you

05:46:31.300 look at the way the money goes down the top one percent of creators are earning basically all of the

05:46:36.100 money but i think what it particularly is is a cultural pyramid scheme and what i mean by that

05:46:41.140 is that it's not that you're trying to get these young girls like an mlm type thing where you know

05:46:45.300 buy the new mary k makeup buy the new pair of leggings or something you're trying to convince them

05:46:50.500 and you guys no offense are doing it just by sitting here and trying to normalize sex work

05:46:54.580 and laughing about sex i specifically said it's not normal and it's not for everyone but by sitting

05:46:59.780 here and you guys laughing about it normalizing it saying things so flippantly about sex it is in

05:47:04.820 effect i'm completely the the cultural pyramid scheme angle of it is that you are trying to get

05:47:10.740 girls to buy into the fact that doing only fans will not have any negative impacts on their life

05:47:15.140 down the road which is categorically false i am here publicly speaking saying i would not encourage

05:47:21.460 girls to open an only fence because not everyone's as strong as me it's only fans is not for everybody

05:47:26.500 you could sit here and put our work down as much as you want and i'm strong enough to take it i'm

05:47:32.020 strong enough to be online and read i'm not putting down your work what i'm putting down is the idea

05:47:37.620 literally saying that we're encouraging younger women i think it's okay to put down no it's okay

05:47:43.300 to criticize sex work it's okay to criticize commodifying women's bodies that's what your

05:47:47.860 heart tells you you didn't even tell us your body count and you want to sit here and like

05:47:51.220 my body count is under three okay then why didn't you say that you said oh i don't want to say because

05:47:56.980 i'm a professional person with a professional career and i don't make money about us doing only why am i

05:48:03.060 here because i'm having conversations if you're not here to be open i don't get the privilege to be

05:48:07.060 able to talk to people who are outside of my industry so i'm here i just want to make one

05:48:11.540 thing clear i don't encourage any any young girl to open up only but i think what you guys are doing

05:48:17.780 is single-handedly not single-handedly is part is one of many many i would say planked attacks against

05:48:24.660 the nuclear family against western civilization western society that makes it a heck of a lot easier

05:48:30.340 like you said for men to just bail out of their relationships again i'm not saying that you're

05:48:34.900 directly responsible for the divorce rate but you are making these parasocial relationships a lot more

05:48:39.700 normal whether it's making it a lot easier for guys when that doesn't work with their wife to just start

05:48:43.460 watching really deranged forms of porn or more precisely like we were talking about in the beginning

05:48:48.020 of the show when you said most of the people who are giving you whatever it is five ten dollars a

05:48:51.940 month are people that you said will probably in their lives never be able to actually get into a real

05:48:56.660 relationship with a woman and you are stringing them along keeping them in a cycle where they will

05:49:01.380 never actually find happiness and i think it is cruel i think it is cruel what you are doing to

05:49:06.100 these men who give you money i'm sorry even before the internet came out what did you have to do you

05:49:11.060 had to go to the porn store and get a motherfucking vhs tape to watch it you ever seen a thousand ways to

05:49:15.540 die this guy had a bunch of vhs tapes full of porn and they fell on porn has always been around

05:49:20.820 and the internet's gonna keep going it's gonna keep getting worse and worse and there's nothing

05:49:27.380 that we can do about it it's really sweet that you guys you know and you can help people but it's not

05:49:31.940 gonna change the world it wasn't there's gonna be boys though growing up and they're yeah only fans

05:49:36.660 changed it only fans is not the one that's what was that word you said why can't i pronounce it so

05:49:42.100 accessible only fans is not as accessible as things like corn hub but only so i don't different

05:49:48.340 than corn in the sense that you're selling a girlfriend experience and my point my point and

05:49:52.580 why that is so damn have you ever thought about like people that are on the verge of you know

05:49:58.500 deleting deleting yeah deleting themselves okay so i feel like someone is standing on a bridge

05:50:03.460 they're about to jump no they're probably going through it that instead of are you gonna let me

05:50:07.220 talk but you think instead of going to a therapist that they should go and pay you five dollars a

05:50:11.300 month to see your ass that's okay i i think as well you're not letting anybody talk so just keep

05:50:17.300 talking missing the point that like i'm not i came from a very privileged like household you know

05:50:23.460 um but there are a lot of girls that didn't and you know i even know some girls that came from off

05:50:29.700 the streets and built themselves back up by doing only fans and you know that's how they built their

05:50:37.460 career that's an anomaly i i i think a lot of girls it's really helped them through the money side of

05:50:45.300 things and also a lot of girls that love like me like the freedom of it and they really enjoy it

05:50:50.500 like if a girl doesn't enjoy it you think she'd just surely stop because like i think that's

05:50:57.860 no one making her do it well if you're saying she has to do it and the nuclear family is being destroyed

05:51:02.900 bad home life bad surroundings and pushed into this i don't know that but that was that was the

05:51:08.340 scenario it's happening but if there's a divorce the late the rate of poverty increases more jail

05:51:15.780 time earlier pregnancies we can go down the line bad in school all types of things right we know

05:51:21.140 these things aren't good and so how can we help these women and not just put a band-aid on it real

05:51:26.580 quick because you know they're going down a path i mean i appreciate all of you being here and you said

05:51:31.780 you know you are strong and you are also strong to have gone through what you've gone through i can

05:51:35.620 only imagine what it feels like to be on the other side of the table and um i think just we

05:51:42.180 got to look at how can we truly help these women that are going through this that's a hard question

05:51:47.300 to answer because any normal person would be like the only way that you can help someone in poverty is

05:51:52.740 obviously government assistance what happens when you on government assistance you have to get more

05:51:56.900 taxes yeah maybe i'm not very politically when it comes to like how the governments run or anything

05:52:02.100 like that um i'm not the smartest person however i do know that if somebody's on government assistance

05:52:06.580 that money does come from taxes yeah well yeah no seriously like educate me on this no well i

05:52:12.340 to be honest i don't really know like the whole political thing of what's going on here with well

05:52:17.220 i think that's sort of a cop-out this has nothing to do with politics this is your industry no but

05:52:21.220 i i just i mean i think the issue is bigger than me i enjoy my job i enjoy my life i we're encouraging

05:52:28.980 coming back coming back quick quick the government is never usually the answer you can attest this you

05:52:33.940 know better than all of us but coming back to that let's just say i don't know how much you made i

05:52:37.300 don't know what you made i don't know what you made but let's just say you all got a million

05:52:39.700 dollar net worth and these women are reaching out saying i'm coming from a broken home i i need the

05:52:44.020 money i have to do this what if the ministry was hey let me give you some money not a million dollars you

05:52:50.260 don't have to give them but you know you've gotten this and beauty coming through this situation of

05:52:54.340 helping them get off their feet helping them get into a job yeah and being the body of christ the

05:52:58.820 girls that have usually meshed me have been like i really want to do this please like give me advice

05:53:03.700 on how i can grow the platform not like should i do it should i not and obviously i always like i

05:53:09.300 said to you earlier i always say like please please please have a massive think about this because

05:53:13.220 it's a huge deal even though it doesn't seem like it these days it seems like you know you can

05:53:17.220 just make a subscription and then you've made a million pounds yeah it's not as easy as it looks

05:53:21.300 it's a lot of work and if you don't have a platform a good platform it's going to take

05:53:25.940 you a long time to make any type of money my other critique with only fans and again i'm getting mixed

05:53:30.180 messages yeah but i think again i think we come at this from maybe you come at it from more of a

05:53:39.220 religious perspective i just come at it more from like the the culture war side of things but i also

05:53:44.100 just think that when you do only fans and i don't know your career history or background or anything

05:53:49.220 like that from what i understand you dropped out of school i don't know what you guys have done but

05:53:53.460 i just think honestly when you sign up to do only fans and i mean this in the most respectful way

05:53:57.620 possible but it's sort of like a like a self-own uh an own goal in the sense that you're basically

05:54:03.380 saying that if again the only reason that it sounds like you guys are doing it is because of the

05:54:07.620 financial reward that you reap from it i don't that actually no okay well then we can table that for a

05:54:12.340 second but it's just like saying that the you make your money with the lowest common denominator of

05:54:19.940 being a woman which is having a vagina a boobs boobs and an ass that you take pictures of and i just

05:54:25.860 think it's sort of insulting to yourself by saying like the only way you can make a living in this world

05:54:30.420 is by selling pictures of yourself like we all could do this but i choose to make my money and have

05:54:35.140 a living by having a podcast and doing shows i could or i couldn't like you couldn't you think i

05:54:40.660 wouldn't do well in only fans i think you do incredibly well no i'm not i'm not saying that

05:54:44.420 you wouldn't do well i just feel like you don't you're not strong enough for it you don't you're

05:54:48.820 not you don't want to be judged well i'm not strong enough to have to have to be perfect it's not it's

05:54:53.940 not you want to come out as a perfect person that doesn't if i don't want to commodify my body because

05:54:58.260 i think i'm worth more than five dollars a month then yes if that's what you think yeah i do think i'm

05:55:03.780 worth more than five dollars a month i would say something more from like like the infu influence

05:55:08.820 i would say that like sometimes it could cause but i feel like a lot of younger women growing up

05:55:13.620 always have had struggles with like feeling super sexualized or like objectified and like we've had

05:55:20.340 girls come on the stage i don't want to target you but i think you i heard you say this earlier that

05:55:24.340 you love being like sexualized and all this stuff so i think that's what's happening with like this whole

05:55:29.620 turn of hookup culture like girls just are buying into the fact that it's okay to be sexualized and

05:55:35.620 objectified so what that's why a lot of more people are spreading their legs and just like

05:55:40.340 feeling free to go around before i did a lot of fun yeah exactly she like she mentioned before before

05:55:46.420 she was working as an only fans uh creator she was having more sex than she is now that she's an

05:55:52.500 only fans there's definitely people that are like that but i'm saying if you go on big platforms and

05:55:57.940 say that it's okay to be sexualized and want to feel that way it's like what it's not what's wrong

05:56:03.940 with what's wrong with sex or what's wrong with feeling that's what i'm saying though a lot of

05:56:07.860 young women grow up having like so much trouble with being sexualized and objectified let's go

05:56:15.700 well only fans is unique too again i'm not hyper well versed in the platform but i think it is a

05:56:22.740 uniquely accessible because it's online right and it's it's not like porn in the sense that you actually have

05:56:27.620 a like direct line maybe it's a typer maybe it's allegedly not um but with the person who you're

05:56:33.700 paying whatever you're paying per month um but i think that is where you when you talk about the

05:56:38.820 objectification and it goes back to what we were talking about earlier in the beginning of the show

05:56:42.980 is that that platform not only does it commodify women's bodies but i think it makes it makes it very

05:56:47.700 very hard for women to be able to stand up for themselves and set boundaries with men and how they

05:56:53.380 want to be treated because you're normal you're choosing the wrong way but you're normal but you

05:56:58.180 guys okay but you're you're normalizing a pattern of reaction a pattern of behavior where if a man

05:57:03.620 pays you five dollars a month and an extra whatever you charge you don't want a man that's paying five

05:57:08.740 though so why it's not about me i'm just saying generally how are you guys not normalizing a pattern

05:57:13.220 of behavior where if a man gives you x amount of money you will then show him whatever you want of

05:57:17.460 your body that's but what is great about only fans is that it's your choice there's no one behind

05:57:22.820 you saying my body my choice it's not your choice you're living in a culture that's telling you that

05:57:28.820 you think you're empowered by doing it and at the end of the day and you won't know 10 years

05:57:32.020 and they still make like you know books and so it's not for any it's not for everybody why else would

05:57:42.020 you tell a young girl to get involved we don't tell them yeah exactly okay besides the money

05:57:48.020 why do you guys do only i do the free i love sex yeah i really enjoy sex and the king why not

05:57:54.740 monetize over and why don't you do it for free because you can make money off it why would you

05:58:00.260 do something you love make money off of it and have fun yeah and you don't have some pimp in your

05:58:05.780 ear to know you can do this you can do that and who said i do do it for free with the person i

05:58:10.820 want to do it with have you ever heard the saying like if um oh i forgot the saying

05:58:20.180 it's something along the lines of like you know if you want to if you never want to work a day in

05:58:24.820 your life do something if you like your job you never work a day in your life okay do you guys do

05:58:30.420 you guys think that dating apps and the illusion of endless choice makes it easier for men to sort

05:58:36.820 of duck out of relationships and ghost wait sorry say that again like i think that we can all we can

05:58:40.820 all agree that like dating apps have made it easier for men to feel like oh it's not really working with

05:58:45.940 this one girl like it's a lot easier to ghost right so do you think that only fans and the platform

05:58:51.860 again not you guys as individuals but the just the business model of it the concept of it also sort

05:58:56.180 of exacerbates that idea that it's just a lot easier for guys to bail out of relationships so just to

05:59:01.700 make it clear like i don't feel like only fans is responsible for all these single women out here

05:59:07.220 that can't find love not single-handedly it's not single-handedly all the responsibility lays on you

05:59:14.020 guys like i think the only thing is that guys need to take also take their responsibility honestly it's

05:59:18.500 guys guys don't want commitment guys don't want to settle down is the culmination honestly i think of

05:59:25.140 of a very very masculine it's not like someone's holding a gun up to their head and saying subscribe

05:59:30.980 to my only fans they do it because they want to yeah if they don't want it it's their own issue

05:59:36.020 they need therapy some people just do it because it's fun i have guys with girlfriends who have big

05:59:40.660 boobs i have couples yeah don't watch it together there's girls that buy it do you think there's

05:59:46.980 lesbians behavior though leads to a healthy normal society who why do we have to be normal

05:59:52.900 who wants to be normal i don't i think that i feel normal if you're born then you actually get

05:59:58.980 what you want benefits society make sure that everyone's over i feel like paired some people

06:00:04.340 do benefit from it because some people are depressed and some people have some don't have anybody to

06:00:09.220 talk to and there's only going to be another side that's like i said earlier like like i said earlier

06:00:16.020 in the podcast um corn and moderation actually shows to be healthy however let's say that

06:00:22.660 i mean i was asking you do you think it benefits society are you guys aware of the effects of a

06:00:27.300 corn addiction of course we were just talking to them yeah now with that being said um do you guys

06:00:33.780 how would you feel if one of your subscribers ended up having a corn addiction and knowing that

06:00:38.660 him or her watching your contact content was affecting their life quick answers on this because

06:00:44.740 i do want to try to wrap up soon so if you guys want to give you i would actually um advise that he

06:00:49.700 seeks help um seek help okay all right anything yeah lily okay all right i am so ready for them

06:00:58.260 wait yo nick could you pull up the chat yo chat i was just we were doing a couple tests back there um

06:01:04.100 for the entirety of the show was this angle the center angle was the frame rate like was there a

06:01:09.700 bit of stuttering on the frame rate that's why i had maddie waving her arms as we i noticed that the

06:01:15.140 the frame rate was none of it's been recorded like it was uh fucked up on the center cam so one in the

06:01:21.940 chat if maybe it's just on our end maybe the frame rate looked totally fine on your guys's end it was

06:01:29.380 pretty minimal but i did notice a frame rate differential so um minor early on looked fine

06:01:37.220 seems fine frame rate was fine okay maybe it was just on on our end but uh it was a little weird so

06:01:45.220 okay let me do a couple chats and then we're gonna try to get out actually we have some tweets from lily

06:01:50.740 we have two tweets from milt lily that's your name right yes i was just a little bit scared

06:01:58.260 anyone anyone else so done with only fans girls pretending to be into football just so they will

06:02:04.100 appeal to the male audience that's kind of typical of uh nick i need you to scroll it up

06:02:07.860 this was actually uh make it one bigger please because the replies could be sus i'll i'll disclaim

06:02:13.060 this a little bigger this was actually curse i mean i can't really say it yet but um i should be

06:02:18.500 going into you know have you heard of boxing like influencer unboxing yeah i should be going to

06:02:23.700 that so um it was to make fake beef with other only fans girls that was the disclaimer it wasn't

06:02:29.620 like my actual view i don't care what other girls do but definitely only fans girls will do that like

06:02:33.940 oh i like soccer or football as you guys say but um actually they don't like it's just basically

06:02:40.020 pandering right yeah but like i don't care what other girls do yeah they pander to the male audience so

06:02:46.900 that they can get more money basically next still in awe from when dylan danis came to the uk he's

06:02:54.580 half man half horse uh eggplant emoji wait so were you romantically involved and i oh yeah with dylan

06:03:05.860 danis yeah like well it was just before his fight and he was in the uk and wait with his fight with

06:03:12.900 logan paul was that that was in the uk yes it happened in manchester oh yeah i mean i remember

06:03:18.980 i know they had a fight i didn't know i forgot that it was in the uk wait so like the day before

06:03:23.700 the it was it was at their weigh-in or something like that i can't quite remember you actually you

06:03:28.420 and dylan danis yeah we've got quite a few times we had a threesome well we fucked then had a threesome

06:03:34.740 then wait is this out there because i don't want to like i don't want to be the yeah yeah i don't want

06:03:38.580 to be the podcast where people like go on to like this information is out there and he actually

06:03:44.740 encouraged me to talk about it because oh are you guys still in touch yeah yeah we talk oh okay and

06:03:49.700 like okay because i don't want to be like i i feel like it's bad it's not like cool to i don't want

06:03:55.940 to be the podcast no not like outing him yeah i don't want to be that but if it's already about it

06:04:00.820 oh you already you did yeah that is true yeah it is tweeted about public information okay he's he's hung

06:04:07.540 and you guys hooked up a couple times yeah he i assume he didn't have an issue with your

06:04:14.900 funnily enough no oh okay you guys still talk or no no i wouldn't say like talk but like you know if

06:04:21.780 i was to text him now he'd text me back yeah okay i actually i think i dm'd him i wanted to invite him

06:04:26.980 on the show because it's kind of like all this tweeting about logan paul's fiancee or wife was kind

06:04:31.860 of funny yeah so i didn't really know about it all really like the in depth so i knew like there

06:04:38.660 was some antagonizer going on so he's got uh what's it called bde is that what it is bde what big big

06:04:47.380 dick energy big dick energy yeah and just big dick in general cool but um no he's he's he's nice we

06:04:55.540 have hilly jr literally just confirmed my question thanks girls and oh anyways love the podcast keep

06:05:00.580 it up 10 in our eyes brian love from australia hilly jr hey thank you really appreciate your

06:05:05.620 patronage tonight this is your first time i think this is your first time messaging us so

06:05:10.420 uh or sending a or all you've sent a few tonight but this is your first show doing that so

06:05:15.300 thank you for your patronage i appreciate that we have air ranks 545 thank you vulnerables testimony

06:05:21.460 on your podcast takes courage proves romans 8 28 marriage vows are powerful when taken seriously

06:05:28.580 can literally overcome any hardship thank you both for sharing what a real marriage looks like

06:05:35.940 very inspirational a little wholesome moment there on the whatever podcast there you go uh i don't know

06:05:42.900 if you guys want to do a quick response to uh i thought you guys want to have a quick kiss

06:05:49.380 your mind is in the gutter thank you it is true and um just like we're talking about any situation can

06:05:57.060 be redeemed and so it's never too late and if you're watching you're an incel right now or you think you

06:06:02.820 might be going in that direction it's never too far you can turn things around god loves you i'm here for

06:06:08.340 you if you want to talk just reach out to us let us know but um no i'm just thankful for the love

06:06:13.380 grace and mercy that the lord showed to us and that becca showed to me and i'm just thankful thank you

06:06:19.140 i do have a quick question you know if i repented from my sins would like a church guy

06:06:28.500 wait can you scoot your mic this way i'm sorry still scoot it scoot it scoot it yeah there you

06:06:34.820 go there you go still still what like did you say hit hit like i don't know like dv oh my god it is

06:06:43.220 so hold on hold on here hold on yo we have stay safe here he just raided us on twitch thank you dude

06:06:51.620 thank you to uh all his uh viewers over there on twitch guys if you're just tuning in we just got

06:06:56.660 done talking about world of warcraft and hearthstone i was telling them i was telling these fine ladies

06:07:03.380 here about season of discovery and my own personal experiences when it comes to uh world of warcraft

06:07:10.500 classic you know i was asking these ladies here you know what's the best loot system in classic you know

06:07:16.500 not season of discovery but classic we talked about you know we talked about loot council we talked about

06:07:21.940 uh sorry what's the best loot system we talked about loot council epgp dkp gdkp suicide king

06:07:29.220 soft reserves if there's another one uh there's what's the other one twitch chat there's another

06:07:34.740 loot system that's really hold on let me google loot systems but ladies you guys were weighing in

06:07:39.700 so one by one please tell us what is your favorite loot system in world of warcraft classic

06:07:44.660 the loopy one the corrupt one the what the the corrupt one the loot council yeah the suicide

06:07:50.260 boys one that you're talking suicide kings suicide kings ladies over here right over my head i don't

06:07:58.580 yeah i don't know whichever one is the best oh my god we have bad venus with uh what's going on on

06:08:05.780 twitch with the raids yeah thank you guys um and i was telling them right now guys so i'm like aoe farming

06:08:12.580 i'm fucking like this whole podcast i'm just like i'm it's like always a 7v1 like 8v1 but like

06:08:18.900 think of it this way boys like i'm a 60 mage like fully tier three like this best in slot from

06:08:24.580 fucking nax right and like these are just a bunch of like they're like greens to me they're like level

06:08:29.700 50s i'm aoe farming them on some mage like boom i think i was a slower yeah well or i could even bro

06:08:36.900 we could even frame it like you guys are in like uh you know mobs and shit like you're some mobs like

06:08:41.380 i'm grinding at dalson's tier and fucking eastern or western plaguelands and i'm a

06:08:46.580 fucking mage right cone of cold your shit fucking uh cone of cold flame strike boom ice nova i'm

06:08:54.260 gonna fucking arcane explosion all of you i've just been farming you guys all night is that a great

06:08:59.620 cream pie what the fuck this is the podcast i'm just um you know uh but so the best loot system what

06:09:10.660 was the loot system that i forgot about though bg and et there's dkp hold on dkp uh i feel like i was

06:09:19.140 missing one i said ep gp dkp gd g dkp there's soft reserve there's suicide kings and loot council so uh

06:09:30.580 thank you for stay safe thank you for the raid appreciate it man um appreciate it uh yeah world

06:09:37.380 of warcraft i hope you're getting paid a lot for these ads for world of warcraft no that's just like

06:09:42.740 like i don't play the game anymore but occasionally i'll just tune in to like stay safe stream and

06:09:47.700 you know just like i i live vicariously through through matt who's a cook for the like gaming world

06:09:57.940 a cook because you're watching like you're like the the watcher in the corner kind of like living

06:10:02.900 for you well here's last question that's world of warcraft related again matt thank you for the raid

06:10:07.940 good appreciate it man um so okay you have two choices right like would you date a guy like if

06:10:15.460 you had a would you date a guy who played a rogue or a guy who played a warlock very important

06:10:21.380 warlock warlock it just sounds cool i'm gonna go rogue rogue okay warlock warlock okay so you guys

06:10:31.060 are more like caster friendly like you don't really fuck with melee you're more like casters you prefer

06:10:35.780 casters what are those you know like witches and warlocks what are those oh you know what i'm

06:10:39.460 talking about none of us know what you're talking about like warlock right fucking bring out the

06:10:44.020 succubus like hold on let me fucking get this shit like what the whip yeah the succubus he's into

06:10:51.380 beating no not really and you know like there's the fucking void walker right boom send in the void

06:10:56.660 rocker matt matt's not a fan of the void walker but you have the imp imps are always great he shoots

06:11:01.780 some fire bolts and shit wow good talk good talk all right um yes yes go ahead i wanted to circle

06:11:11.140 back can you repeat your question so if i repented from my sins would a christian guy who's you know

06:11:19.060 got great morals still like marry me for you no you're done i'm sorry i don't think this question

06:11:32.660 i'm out of it i do think it's possible absolutely there's britney de la mora that um

06:11:39.060 manny brought up earlier but she was a former porn star she was a porn star for six years

06:11:43.380 and she married a christian man and she now has made it her mission to help other women getting

06:11:48.900 out of the industry so i don't believe is everyone going to be like yes no there's going to be people

06:11:55.380 like brian who are like absolutely no you're gonna be man aren't you you are you are written

06:11:59.780 off but i just go sorry lily no there there is forgiveness there is that hope and that redemption

06:12:06.420 for your story to turn around and there absolutely could be a christian man who'd

06:12:11.060 lillian you rated yourself a six and that's ridiculous you are so so beautiful and i don't

06:12:17.780 see i don't think you see all of the value that you have going on i know you you made little comments

06:12:24.420 but they went a long way for me i'm just saying may i just jump in on one thing

06:12:29.220 just one thing one thing no so so you she yes she's she is an attractive woman but

06:12:36.020 you know if we're looking at the scales she's had sex with over a hundred men right okay

06:12:43.860 i apologize i apologize in your current state and your current portrayal and how you are presenting

06:12:49.460 yourself to the world no i don't think a true christian man who's following the lord is going to

06:12:54.260 pursue you but if you repented and said hey i'm a follower of jesus now i want to turn my life around i

06:13:00.180 want to do things differently i absolutely think there are men out there who would find forgiveness

06:13:05.540 just as jesus has forgave you and would pursue a relationship and a marriage with you so i i do

06:13:12.020 not think hope is lost for you to find a christian man absolutely not amen i love that yep and if i could

06:13:20.180 add my recommendation to christian men for your own sake would be to i'm i'm sorry there's probably

06:13:35.700 stay away there's other women out there donated 100 is this real life i hope you of girls understand

06:13:42.980 that you being taken seriously when you make the decision to get married aka the wall won't be

06:13:48.340 available for the caliber of man you want sad okay uh that's your opinion don't switch it back nick

06:13:57.140 hazel i need you to uh so anyways we were talking and uh you know the body count is um you know pretty

06:14:04.820 cool and um there's all kinds of uh but anyways okay so uh let's see oh let me do a couple things here

06:14:15.780 we have some from from emmanuel um and i do want to try to wrap up here pretty soon just because

06:14:21.620 we're getting it's getting a little late but uh manual you said should we consider going back to

06:14:27.220 arranged marriages versus love marriages they have a lower divorce rate you want to talk uh on that

06:14:31.940 briefly i don't personally think we should but i think we should look at why are there a big difference

06:14:36.900 in this divorce rate i think that's the answer to that question next oh all right it's getting tight

06:14:42.500 you have i do think there's something to be said for um being set up with someone by someone who

06:14:51.220 cares about you every single person in my family was set up with their spouse and we all are happily

06:14:58.900 married and so i think you know just going on a dating app where there's no recommendations and you

06:15:04.980 know you're just randomly searching i think if you want a happy relationship find people surround

06:15:10.820 yourself with people who are in happy relationships and then see who they know that might be available

06:15:17.540 and be a fit for you my recommendation and then manny you also said why the dissolution of gender roles

06:15:23.060 is causing the human race to become extinct won't you uh yeah real quick 2.4 percent uh 2.4 uh birth

06:15:31.460 rate replacement rate that we have for the world 1.6 in the u.s um i know i wasn't supposed to say this but

06:15:37.940 we have the gayest generation right now they can't have children i won't say any more but

06:15:42.180 it's not helping and we say love is love and and i go hey uh it'd be nice to be able to love if we

06:15:48.500 all weren't extinct i'm not saying that's the only problem porn is a huge huge issue that's my whole

06:15:52.580 crusade but the lord says these things because he loves us and um you also said you shouldn't have

06:15:58.820 sex before you're married yep okay talk about that yep uh if you aren't christian there's no point in

06:16:05.540 getting married it's a sacred bond uh god is blessing that union and so if you go what is

06:16:12.100 the point of it if you're not married uh or if you're not um of the faith i don't quite know

06:16:17.780 could you be jewish what okay yeah so you could be in a religion i'm going not just christian okay

06:16:24.100 these people are trying to get my fucking when you don't have faith you're not entering into it as

06:16:28.740 seriously which is why we have such high divorce rates and you know people like brian not wanting to get

06:16:33.860 married because i think we have high divorce rates because of social media and how yeah they've

06:16:39.380 been high for a while they've been high for a while the divorce men are cheaters and that's why all men

06:16:47.300 no i'm sure there's plenty of men who are married to women and they're totally faithful and they're

06:16:52.660 good husbands but for whatever reason i don't know if the woman look i would suspect there's like

06:16:59.620 the woman gets bored women cheat also yeah there might not even be infidelity but they get bored

06:17:07.060 on to the next look if the if you're in a genuinely abusive relationship or there is infidelity i think

06:17:13.620 that's a re that could very well that's a certainly a good reason to get divorced but like if you're just

06:17:19.220 bored oh i don't like the part like you got to work on that i think well that's why you got to keep it

06:17:24.580 spicy i and i think to your point you just got to say hey let's have a vulnerable conversation

06:17:29.940 i'm getting kind of bored here yeah can we talk about this and communicate with your partner

06:17:36.260 for real for real son yeah the shizzle uh for becca here a couple things you said you're from a family

06:17:43.380 of five girls and four of us were set up with our husbands as were your parents we're all still happily

06:17:49.620 married as for the one sister who wasn't set up was that was not you correct okay yes one of my

06:17:55.540 sisters wasn't set up but she did set up to uh like me and uh one of my other sisters with our husbands

06:18:03.860 oh okay just saying that's right for us um you said that female i think we might have talked about

06:18:10.820 this female sexual satisfaction going down rapidly and you said especially during uh first hookup women

06:18:16.900 only orgasm 11 of the time did you want to add anything to that or i did talk about that earlier

06:18:22.740 when you when you were in the bathroom but i my argument was for hey when you're in a committed

06:18:27.940 relationship statistics show that women have more sexual satisfaction i agree with a because they're

06:18:34.660 eating pussy oh my god could be for you you're not just gonna eat anyone's pussy you're gonna eat

06:18:45.860 someone yeah your wife's pussy i'm still not doing it sorry then she's not going on a day with you sorry

06:18:54.100 me and natalie have a professional relationship and we're gonna keep it

06:18:58.660 what if your wife like came to you one day and had a vulnerable conversation that she was not just

06:19:04.820 getting satisfied with your fingers and you really loved her yeah she would be you really loved her

06:19:11.460 and she was perfect for you and she had like she was a virgin well so what's the scenario she's gonna

06:19:16.260 divorce me if i don't go down on her goodbye well that's such an ultimatum i'm not gonna do

06:19:23.300 something before you get married probably yeah that was a deal breaker about like what you yeah

06:19:28.980 okay do you tell girls on the first day that you don't need pussy yeah do i tell them bro they watch

06:19:34.980 the podcast they fucking know not everyone first okay i first off uh i've actually encountered a lot

06:19:43.940 of women that actually they say they actually don't like it all that much not look some women not all

06:19:49.620 women some women might feel a little self-conscious with it or maybe they just it doesn't do anything

06:19:58.660 for them look uh yeah i just don't do it sorry well yeah you should tell them if they want yeah they

06:20:07.220 can ask me well they could ask her ask her what if she does porn yeah i suppose i think i think me not

06:20:15.380 going down on a girl is far less of an issue no no it's important no i think it's far less of an

06:20:20.020 issue then but it's very important what if she didn't give you head hold on let me finish my my

06:20:24.580 sentence it's far less of an issue than her having who she has like dozens if not hundreds of videos

06:20:32.820 of herself on the internet having sex with other men yes that's a bigger deal breaker than me not

06:20:39.940 going down yeah it might be for some but it's still something that i think comparatively speaking

06:20:45.300 comparatively speaking that's a way bigger deal that's a way bigger issue than me not giving head

06:20:51.060 don't look i'm i care about a woman's pleasure but let's go about it a different way back head

06:20:57.140 i don't expect it but i've my what if she told you she did it wouldn't give you head you would well

06:21:03.300 that's a different thing so if a woman like just generally didn't like doing that that's different

06:21:09.460 than i'm not going to do it because you don't do it where it's this like retributive tip for tat

06:21:15.860 thing that's not healthy in a relationship um but if she just it's interesting though like people are

06:21:22.020 allowed to have sexual boundaries and one of my sexual boundaries is i don't enjoy doing that some

06:21:27.540 women don't want to have anal sex that's totally fine they shouldn't be pressured into doing it

06:21:30.900 men are allowed to have sexual boundaries one of my sexual boundaries is i don't want to

06:21:36.820 that's fair i don't enjoy it um i've got you know i'm not going to necessarily

06:21:43.460 go into the reasons but i uh yeah i got neck issues there you go there you have that

06:21:47.620 i don't want to do it with your little patch thing yeah i'm good i'm good

06:21:52.100 you can get them toys anyway these days that like the rose the rose oh my god the rose so

06:21:56.740 yeah anyways um also becca you said that men aren't wanting relationships because porn is

06:22:02.980 easier all you think about is yourself and you don't have to care about the partner's needs

06:22:06.660 or desires humans are going going to become extinct if people don't stop watching porn

06:22:13.300 uh people don't actually have insanely high sex drives uh you said it's important to call

06:22:19.140 out your boyfriend or girlfriend and not just accept them as they are whether they are getting fat

06:22:23.540 having a fixed mindset or watching porn um i don't know if there's any of those that you

06:22:29.140 care to elaborate on but uh you also said the more people post on social media about the relationship

06:22:34.340 the more insecure they are about it that's actually a very good point any additions or elaborations on

06:22:40.740 that on the social media point yeah people who like posting on social media about their relationships

06:22:46.100 yeah i think we just have to think about why am i doing this why why am i pushing this content out

06:22:52.900 there and i think a certain level of posts to keep people updated on your life like i think the last

06:22:59.220 time i posted was hey i'm pregnant you know because i wanted my extended family to know you know we're

06:23:04.100 having another baby um aaron donated 100 natalie have been following you since day one at the national

06:23:11.940 pulse with raheem love that you're branching out in other content your facial expressions tonight have

06:23:17.380 been gold thank you very much thank you aaron appreciate it yeah and ali's been uh great

06:23:25.140 uh becca feel free to continue on yes so when we feel this need or this desire to be posting all the

06:23:32.660 time about our relationship and just you know all the places we're going on it's like who are you

06:23:36.980 really doing this for why why are you posting all these things it's to prove to other people that you

06:23:42.660 have this this great relationship it's like just enjoy it as it is so i'm not saying it's everybody

06:23:49.940 but i just think it can be indicative that you are more insecure about it because you're looking

06:23:56.820 for that you know dopamine hit of oh i'm getting a lot of likes on this post and people people think

06:24:02.020 my life is great when people are only posting the highlights so yeah i'm great do you wait do you

06:24:07.860 really think the world's going to go extinct if people keep watching porn i really do really england's

06:24:12.820 so overpopulated yes it's like okay we're at 1.6 so the average woman is having 1.6 children we need

06:24:20.980 2.1 to keep a stable population but what's crazy is that it's over the last basically 50 years it's

06:24:28.500 gone down from women having three to having 1.6 so that is a steep steep decline of you know it it's men one

06:24:37.300 i mean you think it's because of porn or the cost of living and i also think it's because women

06:24:42.820 yes you guys are responsible for the upcoming extinction extinction of the human race okay

06:24:49.540 how do you feel how do you feel about being a genocide wait is it genocide no it's worse

06:24:55.940 it's xenocide wait no that's a book by orson scott card hold on wait it uh what what is the

06:25:02.980 what would be the side if you're trying to just we're gonna kill people because what's it what's

06:25:08.660 the term chat pull up chat nick i i was is it is xenocide that's like if you kill aliens or some

06:25:17.140 right genocide's on purpose is it giga side what what is it if you want to know if you want to get

06:25:23.060 rid of like everybody what's that called i think it's called genocide extinction

06:25:28.980 ender's game by the way guys ender's game great book series i'm on the side oh so zen is born

06:25:35.620 it it's born aside born aside extinction porn aside three oh four side

06:25:44.020 how do you guys feel for being responsible that's funny i don't feel bad at all i know

06:25:54.020 we're dysfunctional and we're you guys are contributing to it and then the world is

06:25:59.380 fucked becoming really independent and they're wanting to be more like um ambitious i think

06:26:07.060 there's a lot of factors that play into it i just have seen the stats of how dramatically

06:26:13.860 things have shifted in such a short period of time where people are getting into relationships

06:26:19.620 less they're marrying less the the most shocking set to me was 63 of men under 30 are single by choice

06:26:26.980 they can't afford a family i think all of that they don't want they don't want a relationship

06:26:34.980 because people are it's easier to just go online and just jerk off to a screen you know it's a lot

06:26:43.460 harder having an intimate relationship with someone that can hurt you yeah it's a lot harder

06:26:49.060 it's a lot harder and people are all about instant gratification right now it's i want it now and i

06:26:55.940 i don't want to admit that i'm wrong on anything i want to say i'm perfect you know all these things

06:27:01.140 so it's many different issues that are going into of yeah it's part of the problem it's part of the

06:27:05.860 problem women viewing themselves as objects women you know the feminism movement of i i don't need no

06:27:11.380 man it's like there are consequences to not doing this life thing together with a man and also you're

06:27:18.020 robbing yourself of the opportunity of having the most precious thing that i have in my life you know

06:27:24.020 it's like marriage has been the biggest gift to me so i just feel sad for um the people who are not

06:27:30.420 even wanting to pursue relationships anymore because they're so set on the instant gratification that porn

06:27:36.020 gives so no it is not you three individually who are causing this problem but it is perpetuating it

06:27:41.780 this porn issue and it's leading to other things and other issues in our society that contrary to my

06:27:48.740 animosity towards towards only fans i think why i am so particularly passionate about what you guys do

06:27:55.780 is because i think there is a bigger agenda with what what you're talking about and i'm not even going

06:27:59.780 full like bill gates depopulation i'm just saying in general i think if you look at this climate change

06:28:04.660 narrative that has been peddled as to reason why people should have fewer children i think it's

06:28:08.900 just part of sort of a broader agenda and you cite financial reasons i think they have intentionally

06:28:13.700 hollowed out the middle class and lower classes in this country to make it basically untenable

06:28:18.260 right to have a a single income household or to want to have more kids right when you look at what

06:28:23.940 the birth rate used to be and i think particularly on the cultural warfare side which i would say maybe to

06:28:30.420 your your credence like that is probably the least impactful of all of it i think a lot of the what

06:28:36.900 they're doing with like the agriculture the food stuff the low tea levels all that i think is a lot

06:28:40.900 more i would say effective in achieving these goals but i do think that feminism the pill the sexual

06:28:46.660 revolution and i think only fans and porn is sort of the end stage culmination of that cultural shift

06:28:52.340 and when you guys sit there and say i feel so empowered by doing this i do it because i love sex i know

06:28:58.340 you may think that but there are forces that are a lot more powerful than any of us here there are

06:29:03.540 corporations that want you to be sitting there and saying that because they want you to buy into this

06:29:08.180 narrative because they are intent on the destruction of western civilization and the way that they have

06:29:12.500 always done this empirically whether it's socialism communism marxism has been going after the family

06:29:17.060 unit and what you guys do is detrimental to the family unit shots fired i just know shagged

06:29:23.060 all right with that with that um we do have to uh wrap up the show so uh a couple things before

06:29:32.980 we do though i think we went over uh everything let's see um wait okay we did that yep uh wait oh there's

06:29:43.380 one more thing let me think i think we got we should probably wrap up it's getting late um okay

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06:30:32.820 what's that are these pins these top ones pinned pinned pint pinterest

06:30:37.300 like pin pin to the top oh no those are the most popular yes those are the oh okay those are most

06:30:43.780 pot it's i was gonna say they they do crazy views yeah they did they did well guys uh this is the 100

06:30:49.460 000 uh plaque at a million we get a a different color one that's a little bigger so um help us get

06:30:56.020 the uh 1 million plaque for our second channel that'd be our second 1 million plaque um it's coming soon so

06:31:02.580 help us get there guys before youtube shuts us down for having these crazy conversations um

06:31:09.860 so um i do want to give a big uh shout out nick if you're able to pull up uh the team vulnerable

06:31:16.580 websites uh this is manny and uh if you can scroll it up let's let's pull that up nick can you scroll it

06:31:22.740 up a little bit so you can we can see it a little bigger no no scroll it up so we bigger uh you can make

06:31:29.060 it go down you'll see this oh they're they're down go down scroll all the way down for manny's

06:31:33.300 you'll know when to stop

06:31:38.900 okay hold on oh is that you the black guy wait go back

06:31:47.780 um oh yeah you're not on that page i love it i knew you were terry cruz okay so it's it's a

06:31:53.940 different page yeah honestly just team vulnerable.com is what it'd be on billy eilish oh okay i

06:31:59.780 see i see wait scroll up but if you go to team vulnerable.com maybe that's here on a teaser then

06:32:04.020 they can see my before and after photo wait this is the this is team vulnerable this is uh this is

06:32:08.660 but it's a different page what page is about us so just go straight team vulnerable.com oh i think

06:32:14.900 did you type oh that is what is you don't have you don't have the uh before and after sorry it is

06:32:21.540 sorry gang well in any case um guys go check them out we have the link for them in the description of

06:32:27.780 the video uh if any of you are uh it's primarily you know people are struggling with porn addiction

06:32:33.380 correct yeah yes and if you want to add we got programs for uh spouses to go through people in

06:32:38.100 serious relationships one for parents and kids to go through together and we have one for people who

06:32:42.740 are single to go through together it's about taking one moment of strength and vulnerability and standing

06:32:46.420 up to this issue and you can have freedom from this yeah so team vulnerable.com the link is

06:32:51.380 in the description go uh check them out guys and um i think uh i'm think that's it right nick what

06:33:00.100 are we forgetting we forgetting anything um is that okay all right guys so uh i feel like i'm forgetting

06:33:09.700 something but oh jazz cups gentlemen i don't know if you've noticed you see these glass jazz cups i've

06:33:17.620 tapped out my guys i don't know i'm trying to get so that i'm trying to get more of these i don't know

06:33:23.140 chat maybe you prefer do you prefer the glass ones over the paper ones guys my supply is running out

06:33:32.180 i've gone i've had to do so many returns because they're sending me the wrong designs they're trying

06:33:37.140 to do a bait and switch these companies i literally i've i've returned like five cases because

06:33:43.220 they send me the wrong ones i've i've scoured the internet they're just not making the

06:33:49.380 fucking jazz cups anymore this is a staple of the whatever podcast so if any of you are a distributor

06:33:56.900 for for dart i think it's dart or solo cups and you're willing to put in

06:34:04.100 like a five i think it's probably going to cost you five thousand dollars to get like i think the

06:34:08.580 minimum cases you have to buy like a hundred cases of a thousand

06:34:15.460 maybe you can ship me ship me two k i'll buy two cases you know i'm a nice guy like that i'll buy two

06:34:22.420 cases i need some cups boys if if any of you this is such a ridiculous you should get an only fans and

06:34:29.860 then you can like i'm sorry pay for this maybe i don't want to spend five thousand dollars and like

06:34:36.180 where am i going to store a hundred cases of a thousand jazz solo jazz cup do they need to be

06:34:45.060 jazz it has yes because i'm ocd and i refuse to get i don't want the red solo cups it has to be the

06:34:52.820 jazz i like the jazz designs and i i reached out to the the company i i got in contact with their

06:35:00.260 sales force i'm like yo just like on the dl fucking throw me a case or two son they don't print it

06:35:06.100 they don't print they don't print them anymore it's really a it's a real maybe if you get like

06:35:12.820 a real hard working job you'll be able to get some if i have a hard or maybe just buy like a real job

06:35:19.060 get a real job buy white ones and just dry it yeah someone could make a design for you this is

06:35:25.380 it's probably a uh well i don't know if the term is a hail mary but

06:35:28.500 get if anybody has a connection with solo cups get me get me a fucking case of 16 ounce i'll take

06:35:39.460 shit i'll take 12 ounce i'll take even we'll go oversized i'll take 22 i think 22 24 ounce

06:35:45.940 jazz solo cups help a brother out help me out guys uh you know you know i'm i'm trying to you

06:35:53.540 know run a podcast here i'm struggling guys so i'll pay for the i'm gonna pay for it i'll pay

06:35:58.420 for the case but i can't stock 100 cases okay will you eat pussy for it fuck no

06:36:05.220 with that said last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning

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06:36:40.420 girl okay i'm sorry one time on a podcast i defrauded it but then it it fucked it out you go out as a

06:36:51.940 melee or whatever uh okay uh good night guys oh sevens in the chat we'll see you uh sunday with

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Whatever Podcast - February 14, 2024

Brian REJECTS Her LIVE？! 200+ Body Count？! Valentine's Day SCAM？! ｜ Dating Talk #135

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