3 Virgins vs. 100+ Body Count Communist E-Girl?! OF Girl CLAIMS To Be Super Trad? | Dating Talk #134
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In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, host Brian Atlas is joined by his co-host, Kiki, and the panelists Daphne, Alissa, and Sarah, to discuss abortion, abortion rights, and pro-life apparel.
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the views expressed by the panelists do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever
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podcast without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us
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your name age location so where you're from and occupation go ahead hello i'm daphne i'm 24
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um i live in colorado right now and i am an only fans creator all right welcome my name is venus
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vixen i'm 20 i live in miami and i do professional porn and only fans all right welcome my name is
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alissa i'm 28 i live in santa barbara i am a mom and a preschool teacher all right welcome
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i'm katie i'm 28 uh i live in los angeles and i'm a writer slash editor of uh what do you do
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uh just like online content very boring stuff nothing like uh writing books or anything like
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that okay got it what about you i'm angelique and i am 24 years old and i am a the president
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of a non-profit organization called life dress where i hand paint pro-life apparel to start
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conversations about abortion so we can end it in our lifetimes let's go thank you
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okay what about you hi my name is sarah ramirez i'm 19 i'm i'm here at ucsb and i am a peer
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tutor what are you studying at ucsb i study math and i'm getting a minor in um math education all
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right welcome hi i'm sarah stock i'm 20 i'm from newport beach i go to vanguard university i'm a
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college student and i work for rebel news as an editor and i'm a turning point usa president
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all right welcome sir hey guys i'm jake rattlesnake tv on youtube jake rattlesnk instagram and twitter
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i'm a youtuber 28 years old from australia originally but here today with a lovely panel
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that's a spitting image yeah guys go check out jake's uh socials and his uh youtube we have his
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youtube and ig linked uh below he's got a great youtube channel so uh guys be sure to go uh go
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subscribe and he is a veteran of the whatever podcast which one of you bestowed upon him the
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title of god that was you yeah jake's a veteran of the uh of the uh whatever podcast great so we're
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gonna go around the table once more what's everybody's relationship status so single
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talking stage situationship friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult
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uh you know there's all kinds of things uh how long have you been single if you're single
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and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you go ahead so i'm single
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i'd say two years maybe um the longest relationship that i had was oh it's a weird one but um it was
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i would say about a year and a half almost almost two years and sorry you said you were you've been
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single for how long about two three years two three years and longest was two one point five to two
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about got it what about you i'm in a relationship um i've been dating somebody for like three months
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and the longest relationship i've been in is two years the guy that you're dating is he also in the
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adult entertainment industry no is he like a normie a civilian yeah he is is is that the term for you
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know what like uh people who are in the adult entertainment industry you call like people
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who don't make that kind of content civilians yeah is that okay yeah so he's a civilian yeah
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what's he uh do he's a student student okay yeah yeah so you guys are about the same age then i
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reckon he's in college okay well i hope he's in college um okay we have what about you um i was
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married but i filed for divorce so we're separated and that was my longest relationship and that was
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almost five years okay and uh that was your first marriage first and only marriage no i got married
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at 19 and that only lasted a couple years married at 19 divorced at when 21 21 and then uh you got
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married again when uh 24 and then divorced again who initiated the divorce and uh for both of the
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marriages me they were both unfaithful they were both unfaithful yep okay um first one was more like
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drugs and alcohol too and then i got tired of that and then second one i thought i married a good man but
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he was unfaithful to me okay and so how long have you been single um eight plus months eight plus
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months were you separated so you the divorce was finalized eight months ago or you were like separated
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for no how long have you been separated eight months oh eight months okay yeah is the divorce finalized
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no it will be in a couple months in a couple months okay gotcha and you said you have a one kid
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two kids yeah i have one little daughter is that is that from your first marriage second marriage no
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second marriage second marriage have you been dating at all since the separation of your most
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recent relationship no i want to be properly single before i do that i see okay got it all right uh what
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about you um i'm in a relationship we've been together for almost three years i think um and it's by far
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the longest relationship i've ever been in so yeah five year uh no no no almost three oh sorry three
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year okay and that's so your current relationship is the longest one okay yeah by far got it okay cool
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what about you and i'm in a relationship uh it's been two and a half years and it's my longest because
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it's my only two point five years okay um i'm single i've been single since birth single since birth
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yeah i'm still waiting on the right the right guys okay single since birth uh what's i mean have you
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been on a date um yes they were not successful dates they were not what's the longest uh period of
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time that you've seen somebody you've seen a guy um like i said i'm waiting for the right guy um i did
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have oh hold on one second next donated 100 cat lady has an amber alert from her mental institution
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did she show up in a white white smock uh she did actually she showed up in a we uh what is it
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one of those straight straight straight jackets we're gonna keep that a secret we're gonna tell
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everyone until you get any joy out of it yeah they've actually allowed her to venture out of
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the psych ward just to make it onto the whatever podcast so my opportunity to be free yes i'll have
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you here yeah um she does have an ankle monitor too no i'm kidding um thank you brandon appreciate it
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so okay you're uh you've been single your whole life uh like what's the most have you been on like
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three dates with one guy or you've only been on like just a bunch of first dates none of them worked
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just a couple first dates and it hasn't really worked gone further and is that because they
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didn't want to see you again you didn't want to see them again mix of both i kind of had to let
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them down a little bit easy yeah i didn't want to see them anymore okay and um why was that
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i just i i didn't feel like we were on the same wavelength um when it came to certain topics and
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he was um i don't want to be rude but he wasn't uh he didn't catch my interest i guess if he wasn't
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physically attractive uh um both ways like as a person and physically yeah okay and you said you guys
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didn't match up on the wavelength like what specifically like difference of values um yeah
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he told me he had a bunch of friends who like were doing drugs in the dorm and i was like okay i'm not
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about that life so was he doing good luck i don't know because like i said it's only it hasn't been
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further than a first date yeah but um are you sophomore at ucsb yes i am okay uh are you still in
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the dorms or no i have a place yeah okay so this was back was this back like your freshman year yeah
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okay and so that was one date didn't work out what about you how many first dates do you think
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you've been on total that's literally the only one oh you've been on one first day one first day and
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i don't really like to count it i like want to start over but you want to start over guys it's it's a
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deal it's a whole deal okay so you've been on one first date have you been asked out by other guys
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but just not no been on dating apps at all oh yeah okay like i said i'm waiting i'm waiting for
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someone to ask okay no one's asking at the college campus no what are these guys doing are they trying
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to slide into the dms are they um i actually um keep my account pretty private so like i have to get
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to know someone first before not like necessarily like i'm not going to accept a first date from a
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stranger um but i don't think social media is the way to go like i would give them my number
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um if they had asked yeah they have asked but they i give them my number and then they don't reach
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out so wink wink hint hint boys um are you are you religious yes i am uh christian or christian
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yeah non-denominational are you waiting until marriage yeah okay yeah all right uh what about
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you sarah um i'm single i've never had a long serious relationship or anything i've had like two
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pretty short relationships and a lot of first dates kind of thing how many first dates would
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you say you've had no idea to be honest more than 10 more than 20 more than 30 i don't know
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probably around 20 over my life okay um what's the longest period of time that you've dated a guy
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like two and a half three months i think would you call it a situationship have you ever called
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somebody your boyfriend yeah did he call you girlfriend okay um okay two to so we'll say like
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what two to three months uh right and um you're also religious correct yeah i'm a christian are you
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waiting until marriage yep have you always waited till marriage yes wait so okay i mean not to be too
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forward here but you're both you both are virgins is that correct yeah yes no shame just yeah okay
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all right cool all right jake uh what about you yeah single been single for two years so
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yeah for the longest time i've been single all right it's changing i mean leslie from our previous
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show was uh making some overtures uh anything happen there jake or no we learned left
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leslie left we never we never found each other again
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so that was it then her friend was the despite being in a relationship seemed like
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maybe a little flirtation going on you were talking upstairs brian you and then just yeah it was over
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it was over it was done it was done uh you distracted me oh shoot okay well
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yeah well you guys not my type i'll say that which one the leslie oh neither
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all right cool all right guys um so that's everybody's relationship status i think the
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first thing i want to do is actually this is perhaps something new that i'd like to do
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as a good jumping off point some of you have reached out to us wanting to be on the show
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um i like i i like to uh have discussions with people who disagree with me on things so
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does anybody here maybe you've seen the show before maybe you've seen clips
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uh is there anything that any of you disagree with me on maybe you've seen something that
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you know clip from the show i think that's a really good place to start so anybody anybody
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anything yeah yeah but like i feel like it's a lot to be honest so i don't really know a lot
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that you disagree with yeah i feel like pretty much we're on the opposite ends okay just ops
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yeah are we offing each other like well we're having a conversation but uh why don't uh
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yeah i don't know where to start but it would probably basically be anything
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if i had to just guess yeah but i'm gonna need you to be a little more precise
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like you talk a like a lot of politics okay on the show you're more like conservative
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am i say yeah okay pretty conservative i would say i feel like i'm pretty vague when it comes to my
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politics and i typically don't get super political but i mean i'm very conservative if you would like
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to but if you want to take the lead oh no i mean i look i'll yeah i'd say i i i'm moderate to
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conservative ish okay yeah i don't want to tell you like you know what i mean because it's my opinion
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and you're no i don't know whatever so okay what what do you disagree with me on
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like everything like i would say i'm probably the most left-leaning here like i'm more like
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socialist communist that's a good place to start okay right there so okay so you're so you're a
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socialist slash communist yeah okay so do you think uh what's like the tenet of communism you don't
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believe they believe in private property yeah do you believe in that's what else see it's really
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hard to navigate these kinds of conversations but it's basically like you can look at how we kind
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of are like america right now and how we are like economically like most americans are living like
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under the poverty line you know what i mean and like even people are getting a hundred thousand
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dollar salary two hundred thousand dollars they're living paycheck to paycheck and i just think
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everybody like livable wages should be happening you know what i mean can you um point me to an
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example where communism or socialism provided a better quality of life than the life in america
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i think cuba was really promising up until the u.s like started putting
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do you realize how much of a do you realize how much of a shithole cuba is that's because of the
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united states so you don't think it's the fact that the government went and nationalized
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everything and they put shea guevara in as the head of economics in cuba somebody who had never
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done that before they nationalized the industries you don't think that a bunch of guerrilla warfare
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fighters coming into havana and taking over the country i think cuba had a promising chance up until
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the united states started putting like restrictions on cuba and that's part of the reason why cuba is
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so embargoes but do you not think we're trading we're not think that it was like there was a part of
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it that might have been the socialist factor the fact that they nationalized everything and didn't know
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what they were doing i mean i can agree with you to the point that it hasn't been like
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as effective as it could have been played out like in any case so it hasn't successfully like
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okay so cuba's not a good example do you have another good example of another country that has
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done a good job with socialism communism no do you know it's been tried many times soviet union did it
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no good china did it vietnam did it laos did it cambodia did it okay but capitalism isn't doing
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great either capitalism is doing a lot better than communism a lot better and if you look at the
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rise in the third world at the moment that's all because of free free markets and it's all because
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of cheap energy and all these things that capitalism provides thanks killian wait so would you like to
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see would you like to see the u.s become a communist country i think like there needs to be like kind of
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how communism is laid out like i still think there's flaws within that right like i'm not trying
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to say it's the perfect solution i just think on a baseline it would be more effective like most
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people would have a better quality of life would their here will brandon lee donated 100 dollars
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another vapid 304 selling her flesh while whining about capitalism do you not realize what you are doing
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is capitalism do you do you have a response to brandon lee here yeah so i live in a capitalist
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country why would i not do what i can to have the best quality of life i could just because i believe
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in something doesn't mean that i should struggle or be poverty stricken what is i i actually i think
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there is actually a good counter argument to this maybe jake you're familiar with it this this whole like
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well because i i think it's really important that like both while your side whatever side puts forth
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like really solid arguments and i think the counter to that is like typically people when it comes to
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communism they'll argue well you have an iphone but i don't think that's a very compelling argument
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because like people are going to if they're born into society they're going to have to maneuver
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through that society with the rules that have been placed so there's having an iphone in in the eyes
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of a communist that having an iphone is a bad thing no it's more so just and i'm not in favor of
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communism but it's i'm just trying to steel man or like the capitalist position like i'm not sure if
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the best argument is well you engage in capitalism so why are you in favor of communism oh yeah do you
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like i i can't think of the actual the steel man for it but um i get what you mean i appreciate it
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because brandon kind of said that she's engaging in capitalism but you do live in a capitalist society
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yeah and i'm not saying there's no problems with capitalism but by far and away it's the best system
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we've ever tried and you just have to look at the evidence and you can literally i went to korea last
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year and i went to south korea and i went to the demilitarized zone which is on the border of north
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korea and it is night and day between those two countries because one of them embraced a soviet
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style communist system or socialist system and one of them embraced a western style capitalist system
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you go to cambodia and you look at what happens when the khmer rouge came and took over
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absolute brutality and that's because equality has to be forced because human beings are inherently
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different before i before you respond we're not going to linger too long we're not going to
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linger too long donated one hundred dollars tell me you know jack crap about economics in plain
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language check in the little box on your tax return where it asks how much extra you want to pay
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how much do you write in bet it is zero what in the little box on your tax return yeah when it
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asks how much extra you want to pay but i think essentially what you're saying that there's is that
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there's economic disparity in america and you're saying that it's unfair yeah it is unfair but life's
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unfair and we can't we can't we can do better certainly but i'm telling you and i can explain
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it to you more if you'd like throughout the podcast communism not the answer there are answers
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communism not it i have a question could i ask you a question yeah just to get your get more of a sense
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of what you believe you said that you can't really like tell us exactly what country has socialism that
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you can point to and say that's a positive if there if there was one would you move there and then
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give up the work that you do because you wouldn't be able to do it under that um yeah like i would
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give up my work to have like on a baseline be around a community where there's a higher quality
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of life than america but didn't you say that there you can't point to a country that has that so where
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would you go no i'm i'm saying like communism and socialism is kind of the closest thing to what i
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believe in i haven't seen it played out and it's not exactly that but it would be the closest thing to
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kind of put language into it so how can you believe that something is great if you've never
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seen it be great i never said it was great i said it's like what i believe to be the best system
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have you seen it to be great has communism ever worked no and this is what i'm saying like it's
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the closest thing to what i believe in but i think that when you when you just look at it on the raw facts
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though communism was responsible for the death of north of 100 million people in the 20th century
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so when you look at that ideology and you say you know what i think we should try it again
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you'd have your detractors okay but i do get what you're saying because you believe in inequality
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and you think that like and you've arrived at this you get it do you go to university or college
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um i dropped out okay did you hear a little bit of this sort of rhetoric slash propaganda at
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university is that where you pick these ideas up yeah um yeah but i also think it's really tricky
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because i mean we're all like we have like a capitalist scope on things so it's the way we're
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viewing communism is also through like how we've been socialized and how you can go to communist
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countries see how see how it is i've been to many of them i haven't had the opportunity yet you know
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what i mean like i'm still very like young and i understand because when i was your age i actually used
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to think similarly i used to be like a bernie sanders bro like alexandria ocasio or cortez you
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know i used to love it i used to think so everyone can just be equal and it'll be the best but then
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after a while when you look into it and you realize that actually it's manufactured equality and when
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you try and manufacture equality it leads to brutality but you know keep going you'll get there
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brandon lee donated one hundred dollars thank you brandon there is no country that makes the
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example of communism to be anywhere near our current society your learning life has failed you
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stick to learning about how to get guys off do you have a response to brandon lee
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i know he's tipping a lot for this so you know redirect him yeah um well so thank you brandon
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appreciate it i have a question so look i'm not super well versed in this topic but uh under
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communism would there be currency yeah there'd be currency so there'd be still we'd still have u.s
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dollars so what i'm i'm trying to say right is that i don't fully believe in communism as how
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communism is that's just the closest thing to what i believe in and that's why i was trying to like
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address some of the things that i do believe in like i think there should be like a baseline of
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like livable wages and things like that wait but okay we're so things that i would like to have
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for the community as a whole doc vinably donated one hundred dollars cuba is 90 miles from key
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west you can swim there once there you're in miami lines will help you get even skinnier
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good luck finding a good hookup for your of genius would you consider how's your swimming
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decent i guess if you were to swim from miami to uh to cuba would it be a breast stroke would it be
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butterfly what's your preferred backstroke that would be a good way to get there um thank you uh
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doc vanambulis good to see you in the chat well okay so so under communism let's say there's somebody
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who's a doctor and then somebody who's a secretary um how are they like are they both compensated
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yeah so the secretary who need not spend hundreds thousands of hours attaining secondary uh like
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other forms of education she's compensated just as well as the doctor so what's the incentive for
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somebody in a communist society where everything is supposedly provided for them to to like put in
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all this extra effort like also what about who who wants to be a janitor or who wants a dirty or
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dangerous job under communism wouldn't everybody just want to so there are some places that aren't
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communist but they do like have certain like other developed countries like the netherlands right where
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they have a pretty high quality you think the netherlands is not i've been communist but i've been
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there three times it's not getting there i'm getting to the point that i'm making i'm not saying it's a
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communist but whatever you but they have um like livable wages and higher taxes right and one of the
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things you look at is when everyone has enough to live the incentive to make more money or a lot of
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europe like doesn't have a lot of millionaires because there's not that drive to have this excess of
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wealth when you can survive that it's just not natural you know what i mean like can i ask something
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the netherlands um getting rid of like the labels capitalism socialism communism can you give us like
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an idea of what the ideal society system would be like you don't have to stick to any like any names
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just like if i were in charge if i could set up a country to run a certain way how would you want
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it to run like specifically okay like is there like one avenue like economics yeah economically okay
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um yeah i feel like that's a little bit better too because i feel like it can be really tricky because
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like i said i'm not really trying to stick to a label but that would be the closest thing
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um i think equal pay for everyone would be like a good start there would still be an incentive people
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still want to be doctors without pay i mean kua actually has the highest oh is it hunter donated
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one hundred dollars daphne drinking the water that turns the frogs gay it does turn the frogs gay
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um so you said that i want to i want to hear her answer yeah yeah she said she just said that there
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would be incentives and i'm saying that do you think that there would be incentives like do you think
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that we would get the best quality though um i mean yeah that's why i believe in it but also like
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you said what would be the incentive to become like a doctor or something like that when cuba has the
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most doctors per capita you know what i mean like people still want to be doctors people naturally
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want to help each other do you think they're good they're the best doctors well i don't know i can't
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what's the life expectancy in cuba probably lower than here but you can't really trust the government's
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numbers though that's fair yeah this is the problem in cuba i've got a from my barber back in brisbane
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is cuba cuban shout outs to yaz um and his mom is a doctor and he says that she gets she basically
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makes the same as somebody who flips burgers in the united states she just makes absolutely no
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money and she's a doctor mount underscore whatever donated 100 communism has failed and will fail at
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every nation that has tried rfk junior 2024 yeah um yeah so i mean just it's just human nature though
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that the reason why people strive to be the best and succeed is because they get they get paid more
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and they get more prestige but in those countries there is no prestige with those jobs they're slaves
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any any other economic policies because you mentioned netherlands and yeah so they have they
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have taxes hold on alfie donated 100 my philosophy best summed up by the only advice my father ever gave
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me he said son whenever you meet a beautiful woman just remember somewhere there's a bloke who's sick
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of shagging uh thank you alfie um that is a bit more dating related i appreciate it thanks alfie um
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i think you were asking can ask her follow-up question yeah so you mentioned the netherlands
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and what is it particularly the social safety nets like because when you when you talk about
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scandinavian countries i think that a lot of people refer to their social safety nets and these things
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that they've got going on is that what what you like about those countries that they've got robust
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social safety nets yeah and they they also like have the highest quality of life like people are
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happiest there than anywhere else which i think says something you know what i mean because people
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complain in the states about high taxes but it's what we're doing with that tax money when we're asking
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for more when the government's asking for more well they have some pretty high sui rates in in those
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nordic countries but with the social safety nets though do you understand that those kind of it's
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like comparing apples and oranges when you compare america to the scandinavian countries
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because for a number of reasons first of all then they're very very resource rich that like country
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like norway has more money than it knows what to do with it so like these countries are very they
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just throw money into into these social programs what's the population like 10 let's yeah no it's
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like 4 million yeah or something and also they're very very culturally homogenous as well they're very
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strict with immigration you don't have that in america you guys pay a price for how lenient you
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are with your borders and everything so it's comparing apples and oranges but they do have
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i have spent time in some of those countries especially holland and they do have social safety nets but
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they're pretty different to those countries to here i have a question so do you think that your life
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would be better like how would it personally affect you if the united states is more socialist
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i think that's interesting um i don't know i think it would have affected me probably
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a couple like two years ago more so than now doc vener billy is donated 100 doctors are used as
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slave labor in cuba the doctors are sent to work in mexico and venezuela and those countries pay cuba
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doctors earn 30 us dollars a month within cuba cab drivers earn much more doc venerable thank you
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very much that's a good point like what under a communist society like what is the incentive
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to work hard if the person who doesn't even work gets the same exact benefits and privileges as you
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it becomes like more personal and less on survival so one of the things why money is an incentive is
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because money raises your quality of life here like people still have an incentive to be doctors
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there because naturally there are some people who want to help people like in other ways than just
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how much this is going to pay me or how little is it you mentioned that you did you just say that
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it would have benefited you a little while ago but not anymore is that because you make more money
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now because you're doing yeah so i'm like i benefit from capitalism now like but if you weren't
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benefiting from it then you'd want to live in a socialist community no i i would want to either way
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but i am saying that i like do benefit from capitalism so you're benefiting from capitalism
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now means you see capitalism in a good light because you're benefiting from it right but if
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you weren't i i still see the flaws in it but i do benefit from it so if you're making a lot of
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money right now you'd want to give like most of that money away i do give a decent amount of the
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money that i make away i definitely stop the cap what do you mean where do you give it like not only
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that but like in my daily life but also i like donate like i also like so who who do you donate
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to like things i believe in like it's not one specific thing it kind of changes as it fluctuates
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what percentage would you say you donate i don't have an exact percentage like roughly or like a
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couple organizations like any organization you've donated to three non-profits go ahead okay i'm like
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getting nervous but one of the things like also in my daily life is like i give to people that i know
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you know what i mean like but what three organizations three any anything um
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just two i'm trying to think like i yeah sometimes it sometimes it'll escape you we understand look we
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i appreciate you actually having this conversation because i know it feels like there's like a lot of
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people ganging up on you right now but you did come and say you're a socialist communist
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yeah uh anyways well the reason i'm asking is like is the reason you want it is because you want people
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to like do you feel like some people are entitled to other people's money because that's basically what
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socialism is i don't think like other people aren't entitled to other people's money but i think
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everyone should be like i don't think people should be living on the street you know what i mean on a
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baseline like i think the wealth disparity in the united states is like a crisis that's what i'm trying
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to get at the the notion that you're talking about where people will become doctors just because they
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want to help people and stuff it's so verifiably untrue even if you look at the example that you said
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cuba when che Guevara was in the in charge of the finances there he ran this big campaign where he
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was going to get everybody to rally around the nation and everybody to rally around cuba and to
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do their work and it failed so miserably because people were just like but you're not we're not
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really paying us like why would we do it and there was a um a saying in the soviet union that was
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they pretend to pay us we pretend to work which meant that the government just pretends to pay us
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and we just pretend to do the work so nothing actually gets done but when you look at a capitalist
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system for all its flaws and you know you've done a good job in identifying some of the flaws
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um one of the biggest strengths is that people are incentivized you can literally come from the
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bottom and we have such social and economic mobilization in capitalist countries that you
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can get to the absolute top and there are many examples of that but if you go to countries that have
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been decimated by communism like when you spend time in cambodia the only people that are rich
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are the high level military personnel and government that's it a great example of a country that
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socialism has taken over is venezuela they were doing better than the united states economically
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and then they actually voted in socialism it's one of the few countries they voted in and it wasn't
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even a dictator that took over anything and then now it like they wouldn't even be able to afford
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like a meal for their family a week they have like the inflation was so bad because the government
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just kept on printing more and more money and that's honestly also what's happening in the states
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it's because more socialist policies have been implemented and that's actually lowered the
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standard of living because we've been printing more and more money there are some correlations there but
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yeah venezuela like she said it's another good example and there was a guy named um hugo chavez in
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the early in the 1990s that was president of venezuela and he and venezuela at this time was one of the
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burgeoning countries in the world economically and they had all these like natural resources and they were
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killing it and all these celebrities were going to venezuela and and it was amazing and then he
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brought in socialism and this very nationalized the industries and this is one of the great dangers of
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socialism which is which is what maybe you haven't quite realized yet is that when the government
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nationalizes things they're normally pretty bad at it they're normally pretty bad at it like you look
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at south africa at the moment i don't know if you guys have seen much about what's happening in south
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africa at the moment the government nationalized everything the anc bless them and uh it's it's
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it's basically a failed state it's falling apart so it happens when the government nationalizes things
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because they don't have the incentive it's not people making money off it and businesses yeah i think
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it's also you talking about like different countries it's interesting when you think about
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if you travel to other countries and you interact with the people there like for example i work i run a
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nonprofit where i go and like do workshops and stuff with people in different countries and something
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that i always hear most places that i go to is that people want to come to the united states like it's
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just a it's just a trend like if you travel and you go and you see other cultures a lot of times people
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are interested in coming to the united states for various reasons mostly financially like if you go to
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a country that's really struggling and they're not a capitalist society they want money from the united
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states they're expect they see a united states person and they say money like that's what they look at you
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know so it's something to think about because i mean you said you're from florida right or you live
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in florida i live in florida last time i was in fort lauderdale i thought i was in cuba and i mean
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it's really interesting because it shows that like people want to be in the united states you know people
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want to come to america because they see it as not only a place of freedom but a place for economic
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gain so like i was like born in like the poorest part of the country like appalachia right and like
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that's where i'm from so i think like a lot of my opinions do have to do with seeing the wealth
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disparity as such a firsthand experience that i think maybe some people like haven't got to see
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that it's like it honestly like in a lot of ways it's like there are people that still like have
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outhouses you know what i mean okay the poor hunter donated 100 this has got to be the most boring
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conversation i'm sitting here with my left hand in my pants and have never been more turned off
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um we've talked about this for a little too long i'll have a brief back and forth with you please
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don't anybody else jump in and then two minutes and then we'll move back so um hunter thank you for
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your tts uh tts appreciate it so question for you if if nobody wants to work and they just want to go
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in and take the free bread every morning what happens if you multiply that by everybody
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i think you underestimate the degree to which people are lazy
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i mean maybe but there's no like indicator for that there's no indicator that people are lazy
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like or how like many people are lazy or like whatever what would happen like over a certain
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period of time what would happen over a okay i mean there's also this uh concept of the tragedy of
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the commons like everybody owns something nobody owns it like if collectively everybody owns everything
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so nobody's gonna give a damn about it nobody's gonna take care of it and everything just withers
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into district uh disrepair i mean most people in my generation won't be able to afford a home
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so i think it's kind of like the same thing well i think we can also acknowledge look i mean i
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i think anybody who's in favor of capitalism can obviously acknowledge that it's not perfect
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and there's flaws and there's losers in the system but i mean there is no better system that so far
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devised as capitalism because like okay you you have you may very well have fair criticisms and valid
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criticisms of capitalism but it's not clear to me if the answer is let's just tear it all down and
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install a new system i guess like that would be where my opinion is it's like it would be the
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closest thing like what something closer to so are you merely just a a critic of capitalism i guess
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more so yeah but i mean you said you're socialist slash communist yeah that would be that's like the
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closest thing to identify with for me or where but you can i mean you can still be in favor of capitalism
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but also acknowledge here's some way ways capitalism gets it wrong here's some ways we can improve it
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i don't know where i sit on that because the system that you're suggesting that we switch to
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communism is i mean it's been attempted it's failed i suppose in some perfect way like if if we're
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if you're expecting people to move in the most idealistic way then perhaps it could work
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so if if you have imperfect actors who are criminals for example you have people that can be uh
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greedy if those greedy people become the uh people that have hold the power i guess in this communist
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society aren't how's that gonna work then like corruption like if corruption happens and are
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humans corrupt naturally are humans i don't think so you don't think naturally like i feel when there's
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no incentive to be greedy which greed usually like is there survival like instinct then i don't think
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naturally most people like well so how do you result to corruption but so you're saying you're saying
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if there's like this base level of sustenance that people could reach then we would live in some like
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utopia i'm not saying like everything would be perfect all the time let's say let's say let's say the standard
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of living for everyone everyone had health insurance everybody had food everybody had house
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you you don't think there would be people that want more i think maybe some but it would be pretty sparse
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okay okay um is there something dating related that you disagree with us on with the show on i
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can't hold on seven sekali in seven hundred and seventy-seven sextillion seven hundred and seventy-seven
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long day I've been donating to a ton of charities
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good to do stochastic decay good to see you
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and I suspect given your political leanings are pro-choice
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I'd be interested to see where the table is on that
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abortion is the greatest human rights and justice of our time
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abortion is the greatest human rights and justice of our time
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Christianity for sure like somebody who has
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looking very pretty and then men are going
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age and I feel like a prime for a woman is
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all downhill okay I don't know I feel like
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consciously avoided women over 30 too many
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arguing this I mean women can have children
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women can certainly get pregnant into their
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and but yeah did you have more Jake or no I agree
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that women above 25 can have children that can
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family maybe wanting to have three four five six
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13 13 children like me then I'd probably look at a
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you said he was 35 and he married someone who's
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24 I would just ask why did you wait so long to
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time why didn't you get married when you were
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grid so maybe I mean if he wants to come in with
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another one but I'll let you know so grid for for you
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know his his early 20s he was he was uh in the peace
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core yeah and so he was like in Mozambique
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fucking building houses and shit and wells uh then
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he he came back and then he he got into stocks
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and he was focused on this stock investment and he
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futures he invested heavily in that he made a
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fucking ton so he didn't prioritize having a family
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and having yes he was very much he was like
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like just one very focused on oil futures and then
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talladega knights type shit like he sells helmets as
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well yeah very productive I like that yes and he's
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a bounty hunter a bounty hunter it was hard for him no this is
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all true he was a bounty hunter no he was a he was a bounty hunter so
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like he's going from city to city trying to catch the bad guys
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and it's just very hard for bounty hunters I have a lot that
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contact me who reach out to me uh you know asking for advice on
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dating date you know how do you date on the road while trying to catch
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criminals and it's tough okay it's tough it's beautiful yeah it was
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very it's very beautiful thank you Brian are you a high value man wait where
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did that come from I'm just wondering uh why sort of object to like for
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example like terms like alpha male beta male high value man low value man I
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kind of object to those sorts of terms uh but I mean to actually engage with
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your question can hey can you guys be quiet back
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question I think in some dimensions of uh human achievement oh well okay I'll
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men build themselves up to have a family and good men do not have a family
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until they can afford them I had nothing to offer a woman beyond a bad
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attitude at 24 but at 35 I was a full-grown man
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build themselves up good men do not have a family
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uh yeah I guess there's a little uh you know longer uh incubation period for
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men you know they have to uh if women want providers men need to
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uh so I think to answer your question am I a high value man
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uh not in all realms I mean I think certainly I there's some
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realms of human endeavor I'd like to improve on
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um I think in certain realms I would consider myself yes but
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uh in totality I'd say it's it's hard to to really answer that
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question but um and again I I preface this by saying I don't
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like those kind of categorizations high value man low value man
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because I I that sort of exists on the spectrum but um
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like for example my fitness is not where I'd like it to be right now and I
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think uh you know that's one dimension that I'm I'm lacking in but when it
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comes to for example you know my career success or my finances I think I'm
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doing doing fairly well uh so there's that and then I think I'd like to think
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I have my head on fairly straight I don't smoke don't do drugs um have no
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debts uh don't smoke what don't don't drink don't
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smoke don't do drugs don't party don't go to bars don't have
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really any vices um so uh I think in those dimensions I'm doing quite well so
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do you agree with the whole red pill thing that it's like
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good for men to sleep around and um it makes you have a higher value as a man
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if you're sleeping around have a ton of bodies uh so I don't think promiscuity is
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good in men or women I do think it when men and women are promiscuous I do think
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that there are differences there I do think that it it can certainly have a
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negative impact on both but I do think that the negative impact tends to be
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more significant in women than in men I'm not saying that it's
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it's all smooth for men who are promiscuous but
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I certainly think there are differences between the genders
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I will say though that I do think it is the case that
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uh that to be broadly attractive to women you're going to have to have
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a much higher degree of uh relational dating and relationship experience
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than the reverse so I think that um you know a man who lacks experience with
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what about sexual experience like the number of partners uh if the woman's a
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virgin then it probably won't matter but uh once a woman's lost her virginity and
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if she's had a few sexual partners a man lacking in that department is
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actually going to be a pretty could be a pretty big deal breaker for a
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wide swath of women um I don't think it requires a man to sleep with 50 or 100
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women to become sexually experienced but uh I think for example like uh even
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sex very sexually experienced men may very well prefer women who are not
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sexually experienced they might find that attractive or sexually arousing
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whereas the reverse is very rarely the case sexually experienced women
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are repulsed by men who are virgins I feel like most high value men
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look for women who are not experienced I feel like
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high value men in this world look for or at least in my opinion I feel like if I
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18 to 25 virgin thin woman of god no tattoos I feel like it's um it's different
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like for me personally I'm not necessarily looking for a high value man but I would
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want someone a man that has a little bit of experience but I feel like from a man's
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perspective when they're looking for like the woman of their dreams they would
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find a woman that doesn't know anything kind of depends I think we maybe need to
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define high value man though a little bit better do I define some people would
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look at a high value man as a guy who's like sort of in Dubai with a
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Maserati and sort of has all these chicks I wouldn't say that's a high value
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man but some people would look at I like I look at for example Michael Knowles who
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was on the podcast last week I think he's a high value man just because he
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carries himself self so well and he's a husband and I think he's a father now as
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well I look at guys who are fathers who have been in a relationship for a
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while and who have been a good leader of their family as high value men and
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especially good leaders of their community I think leadership is
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sometimes having experience with women does come in handy with that so it's
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just one of those realities of the world we live in right now yeah I think
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there's a you know people say there's a double standard but I think there's a
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double standard for a reason men and women are very very different and I
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personally don't see an issue with a man going around and being with a bunch of
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women even you know my ex who I dated he would go see other women every now and
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then and I never really had a problem with it I didn't think that there was an
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issue with it I think it's normal but as a woman I feel like there's just this
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system in place where like you just you can't I feel like it's wrong that's just
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the way that I feel your position is that women don't want women want men to be
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experienced and go with a bunch of women but you would prefer not to to go and do
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that because can you repeat the first part again so you your position is that you
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value men who go out and get experience with other women no I don't I think it
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doesn't matter but I don't I don't look at a man and I'm like you want to like
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preserve yourself for the man you're with is that what you're saying I mean I
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have not preserved myself in the best way but I think ideally though like if
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that's what your view is if I'm in a relationship with a man I think that I
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mean I am 100 percent loyal I am purely just with the one man that I'm with I
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think that from his area I feel like it's okay for him why to do it I feel like
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men and women love and lust are very different emotions and for me personally as a
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woman when I'm have any sort of sexual interaction with someone it's emotional
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whether it's a friend or it's in a relationship I there is emotion there and to me I could
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never give my emotion to someone else if I'm in a relationship as a man I feel
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like it's a much easier for a man to go out and have a casual hookup and there be
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absolutely no emotions for a woman it's not it is easier for them but do you think that's
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okay I think that's right just because it's harder for a man to separate like his emotions
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from his sexual desires that he should just go out and do it just because it's easier
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I don't I mean it's not something I would want but I think that standard though like if
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that's what you want if you want your man to have the standard to look at you emotionally
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not just like sexually but like he should live up to that like there's men out there
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that aren't just going to like succumb to their no pun intended to their desires and
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you know and just do that there's actually men out there who do see sex as an emotional
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connection emotional bond and they're not going to just do it with random women just
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because they can just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something
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I think if you're in a relationship and it's emotional and you love the other person there
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really isn't time I would not be able to give my emotions away to someone else right even
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if I want even if I tried I don't think that I could physically give my love and emotion
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to someone else so I know that that won't happen even if he does want to go be with another
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woman I know that that emotion won't go anywhere that I'm solid and I'm secure where I am in
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the in the relationship and I'm I wouldn't necessarily mind it and you don't want that same
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thing reciprocated to you what do you say what do you mean so you're saying you know you have
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this great loyalty and that's beautiful I'm wondering why you wouldn't want to see that in
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the person you're with I would 100% I think loyalty is important I think that I get my
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validation in different ways than you know my ex-boyfriend would get his validation my validation
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would be I would post a cute selfie on snapchat or maybe even a bikini picture on instagram and
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people would come in and be like oh you look so cute that's my sense of validation I think that
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his sense of validation would be going out and maybe flirting or you know being having a one-night
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stand and I've do you think that having a one-night stand is more harmful than posting a cute
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pic on instagram like in terms of he's bonding with another person chemically you're posting
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a photo on instagram I don't think there's necessarily a chemical bond I think that it's
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just well scientifically there is so are you are you denying that science or are you just kind of
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is that no I'm not denying the science I think it's just the way that I feel I don't necessarily
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you guys kind of talking past each other a little bit as well because if you look at the dating market
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at the moment especially in terms of like um the atheist world that we live in so you look at dating
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as like a man and a woman in a unity under god would I be right in saying that of course yep
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so he created all of us exactly right I would agree with you however in the market that we live in at
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the moment especially with women's sexual hypergamy um there's a bunch of men who are sort of at the
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top who are getting all of the attention this is borne out on all the sort of dating apps and all this
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sort of thing so I think what we're seeing is sort of a return to polygamy in a way where women are
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saying I'm okay with my man going and sleeping with other with other women because I want the
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highest value man I know it might be very difficult for you guys to comprehend but I think that you'd
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be very surprised how often this is happening I think that monogamy is destroying relationships
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I think I was trying to understand what like literally what your view is so I'm actually really
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curious I think that yeah I think monogamy is one of the reasons why the divorce rates are so high
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monogamy is not natural for me as a woman I don't need to go out and be with another man or flirt with
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another man or get another man's attention or sleep with another man if I'm in a relationship
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I don't need that I don't even want that I think that I don't know why but I feel like men as time
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goes on and you're with your wife or you're with your woman and there's like you know the woman has kids
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and she's spending all of her time with her children and then it's the man doesn't get any love or
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attention I think that that's why divorce rates are so high families are falling apart and monogamy
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is not natural I don't but for me as a woman I'm not I don't care I'm going to be loyal to my
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husband I'm going to be 100 obedient and submissive at all times and that's just how I so if you go into
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a marriage knowing that there's a chance that you're like accepting the fact that this man's going
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to get bored with you after you have his children like you mentioned her children it's their children
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right like it's his children too if you're like kind of expecting it almost based on like what I'm
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gathering from your your current position of dating if you were to marry a man like that honestly
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it seems like it wouldn't be shocking at all and therefore that is why the divorce rate is so high
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but if you enter a marriage both being on the complete same page the divorce is completely off
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the table that like that's what marriage is about it's not dating dating you can break up marriage
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why are we breaking up the whole point is you're bonded for life so if you both enter that marriage
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with that understanding you both have that understanding whereas your position seems to
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be that you have that loyalty but you're okay with the man not having that loyalty and you kind
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of expect him to get bored after a few years I wouldn't say that it's not loyal I think it's just
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biology I I think it's the way that men are that's engineered very like slow view of men like men are
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not I don't think it's low at all of making an emotional connection with you oh they are 100%
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and they can be loyal to you that's love and lust those are very different but don't you think if a
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man really loves he's going to be loyal to you like love's an action of course of course my man
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will be loyal to me I know that did you just say that you let him cheat on you that I don't consider
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cheating as a part of loyalty from a man that's the way that I can I view it can I jump in um you
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say okay and this is coming from the Christian girl you say monogamy is not natural but God gave Adam
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one wife one wife and they had their kids and then they each had their own wives and I know in
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the old testament you know everyone used to have a million wives and whatnot but in the beginning
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before all of that God gave Adam Eve and you know she kind of like screwed us all over but we're not
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going to talk about that um but also like if you don't consider that cheating that's all right
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grid one motorsports donated $100 as a man married 18 years monogamy is natural and men who cheat are
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low class monogamy is not ruining marriages this idea that women can divorce a man because they are
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bored and get paid for it I okay I'll come back to that I just wanted to say like you can have your
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opinion on what cheating is what cheating not is I mean but why would you want that for yourself like
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you're putting in all this time putting all this effort and he's not giving it back like
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it doesn't make it doesn't make sense how you can be happy with that if you're putting in all this
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effort it's like it's like on a scale you're doing a lot and he goes and he like treats you as if you're
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like replaceable and I don't know I think the whole like men are biologically like promiscuous like
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they should have their needs fulfilled blah blah blah blah blah blah yes a relationship is give and take
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yes men do have sexual needs that they need to be satisfied with their partner but once you commit
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to one person you need to stick to that commitment like this is all about uh making choices making
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decisions and sticking to them I don't care if you have oh my god oh my god I literally like I need to
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like go hook up with this girl you don't need it okay you want it and you make the conscious decision
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to go and do it you make a conscious decision to go and cheat on your partner it's not okay for me I
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I see where you're coming from it's not okay it's you know that's how your sense of loyalty is
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for me if that I I feel like I have that I hold this sense of being so submissive that maybe it rubs
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I feel like it rubs some people the wrong way if my man wants to go cheat on me and wants to go be
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with another woman and that would make him happy then I want him to do that I my world revolves around
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exactly what my man wants and what he needs do you have a high value of yourself like would you say
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you like have a lot of self-worth I wouldn't necessarily say that I have a lot of self-worth
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I I think I'm pretty realistic I think one of the big issues with modern dating is that
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a lot of women have this distorted sense of value they think that they're way more valuable than they
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really are I know my value I'm not a virgin I'm not 18 I'm not a 10 out of a 10 I'm not some tall
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blonde thin you know Swedish girl I know where I stand and I know like my expectations of what's
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realistic and what I think that I deserve I'm not saying that I think I'm going to get some high
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value man I know where I am it's like the food chain in the wild like there's lions and you have
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your gazelles and cheetahs and there's a whole order to everything and I know where I where I'm at
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what's most important for you in terms of like what a man brings to the table what I would want a man
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to bring to the table I need a sense of control from a man I don't necessarily like making my own
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decisions I don't really I think a sense of control I think dominance masculinity true masculinity
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um resources pardon resources you want a man to have resources sure yeah I think resources are
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important um I have this thing where I I kind of like being a pet in a sense I don't really want to
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make my own decisions I just kind of want to be told what to do I look for leadership and guidance
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experience intelligence I think those are really really important also financial stability I think
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is important I mean I think nobody really wants to work yeah working sucks as much as I um wouldn't
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necessarily agree I do think that I don't see any moral inconsistency with what you're saying because
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in the world that you that we live in right now the dating culture is totally screwed it's awful
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yeah and if you if you want a guy who's you know masculine and strong and like sort of alpha type guy
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has resources and all of that then you're going to need to probably look at a guy who isn't a
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Christian or isn't you know a God-fearing man and I look for a man who believes in God as well or
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a follower of Jesus Christ yeah religion but they wouldn't Jesus Christ no no offense or anything but
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like they wouldn't really look at an OnlyFans girl just realistically they might they might do I mean
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there might be some out there but realistically with the position that you're in you've put yourself
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in with doing OnlyFans and and this um it's obviously your choice you've put yourself in a
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position where you are looking at the sorts of men that would cheat on you because you're not
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really looking at a at like a man who puts morals and principles before anything you're absolutely
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right I think the my definition of a high value man is someone who would never even look in my
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direction that's not what I'm looking for I know what I deserve and I know the kind of man that I
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will probably end up being with and I'm happy with that I'm comfortable with that just because I want
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these things doesn't mean I know or feel that I deserve them I know that what I've done in the past
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you know has had a little bit of an effect on the men that I would you know bring into my life and
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I'm okay with that I'm comfortable with that do you think that your value changes based on the things
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that you do in life like absolutely really bad things but then you change your life are you just
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the same person you were back then or can you change I think that's that's a good question I think
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that's a pretty vague not not vague sorry a pretty broad question I mean I think if you grew up and you
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didn't believe in God and then you found God and you changed I think yes that's great but if you
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killed someone and like and then you want to you know say oh sorry I I think can you make it like
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like a specific point like I mean yeah well I just mean in the sense that you mentioned you know your
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value is and then you listed like your physical appearance your age and like these things that
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change over time that aren't innate to your like your soul and like who you are as a person
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um and like when you talk about value towards a man like what a man looks for in you don't you want
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that man to look towards you like yourself and not like the things that you are the things that you
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chose and maybe you can walk away from I do and and you're right there are some things I didn't list
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I think I mean I make really good food I think that's something that gives me value I love cooking
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I love cleaning I think the things that I would bring to the table that aren't necessarily my appearance
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would be submission obedience really good food um cooking cleaning um I love to listen I take
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direction very well I'm a good listener um and then I had one other question for you because I was
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really curious about this you said that you were looking for a man who can control you because you
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don't make your own decisions and a man who um like is intelligent right yes but you also said you
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are totally fine with your man if in some ways it could be good that he goes out and like
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receives things from other women and does things with other women do you do you think that a man
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who goes around and does that is an intelligent man I do so he's making intelligent decisions by
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being a bunch of different women what if he impregnates them is that a smart move I think it's
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pretty stupid if a guy does that I would have confidence in my man that he would not put himself
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in a situation to give it a possibility to impregnate a woman I hope that he would be responsible
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like having sex there's always a small chance there is I think there's ways to be pretty sure
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that you won't depends what you mean by intelligent as well though possibly a vasectomy
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after you know wondering her gauge of like intelligence after I have children a vasectomy
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lots of men who are not god-fearing men and who have certain values in the inside of a relationship
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that would be considered intelligent men so what do you mean by intelligent that's why I'm asking
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her because she said she wants an intelligent man but she also said she wants a man who would
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would if she if he's not getting what she he wants from her he would go out and do it with
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other people yeah so I'm saying like those don't really there's a premise there's like a premise
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to your question that suggests that a man who does that can't be intelligent that's what that's what
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I was getting to so a man who cheats is not a smart man absolutely no of course not what do you mean
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by intelligence there's multiple reasons for it if you are promiscuous you're not only harming
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yourself by bonding with all those different women scientifically like that's just there's gonna be
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negative consequences of that also you mentioned pregnancy you and you're saying that oh that would
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never happen he would do this certain precautions but you see where there's like this path you're
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going down like as soon as a man walks out of your house and says bye I'm no longer committed to
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you I'm gonna go do whatever I want there's gonna be negative consequences to that do you think
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that there are lots of men in high positions in society who would do that absolutely do you
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think that they're intelligent not in that way absolutely not way okay so you have to be a bit
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more specific when you say intelligent though well that's exactly what I'm talking about I just
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defined that that decision would be unintelligent so they're sexual within the bounds of a relationship
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you think they're unintelligent I think that people are not because you can have a 180 iq and still
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sure well I think that if if he's going to be unintelligent that way he might be unintelligent
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other ways maybe he runs a business and he also looks what if he's got a 180 iq then he's very
01:57:28.980
self-control maybe he's book smart but he's not smart okay but you said you said yeah I think
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maybe wisdom is like a better term wise it's not a wise wise is a much better but he could
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have a high iq intelligent because she mentioned the word intelligence so I was just kind of going
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off of like her what she defined as intelligence I have a question can be intelligent well Sarah
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before you ask that question uh you asked me a question I responded good questions by the way
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do you want to go back to that because I think you're asking me well what do you think about
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uh this whole thing about well it's okay for men to be promiscuous but not for women and I
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responded to you there and then the conversation went on from there did you want to respond to to
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me trying to remember those a little while ago um well I think it depends on your worldview like
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from a Christian worldview like for me like I would not want to promiscuous man like for me that's low
01:58:18.540
value it's like you don't have morals um but I was wondering if you think like I guess you were
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saying is good for men to have sexual experience is that what you're saying I mean I could
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reiterate my answer I don't think promiscuity is good in men or women I think it's I think the
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negatives are more uh tend to manifest themselves a little bit more in women than they do in men
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again I'm not saying that's good in men but there are differences between the uh sexes um
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and uh I I think one example that I could perhaps give is that I think for example when it comes to
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somebody's body count I think women are much more say forgiving of a man's promiscuity or high body
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count I I find that generally speaking most women don't seem to really care all that much or as much
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as men seem to care about body count and I mean if given the option like if we gave you a scenario for
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example we could perhaps ask the entire table here okay so would you prefer um dating a man who's
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30 who makes 500 000 a year who's who's confident and well put together but he's slept with 70 other
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women compared to a guy who same age uh not nothing weird about him but he's not quite as confident
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and he makes 10 000 a year and he slept with zero women uh a lot of women are going to like
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probably accept the high body count of that hyper successful man over the guy who makes 10 000 a
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year whose uh sexual purity or virtue is intact now if you reverse it though you give men the option
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of dating a woman who makes 500 000 a year but she's has a significant body count what did I
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say 50 or 70 or something like that um and that compare it to a woman who uh not indebted uh but
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you know she doesn't make a lot of money most men are going to pick the let's say she's a virgin
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I think most men are going to prefer the virgin so I feel like men don't care how much money women
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make they don't really yeah it's not give a split yeah like what would you say something that would
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make the woman higher value like the way that the man makes 500 000 like what would be the
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young young and virgin okay 18 25 virgin not fat uh pleasant uh pleasant brings you peace
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uh I'd pick the 10k personally can cook you'd pick the 10k all day because you can always you can
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always get higher in your career but you can't take back all the promiscuity that you had and all
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the the chemical bonding that you already had with yeah I think that the body count would say a lot
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more about his character than the 10k but at the same time like 10k it's like how are you only making
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10k like I make more than 10k and I'm not even working full time so I would question like his
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competence just as a person but we can like this could be really stupid I think to or just no work
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ethic this could be tested out for example like who do you of the two men that I like generally speaking
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which one do you think is going to be more like successful in the dating marketplace the first one
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with the high body count yeah yeah like despite your specific value set like which one do you
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think will be more successful in like in the marketplace yes but not according to my personal
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values okay which just tells you the marketplace is really really bad yeah it's just not it just
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doesn't have its value in the right place it's just that's a fair assessment but would the would
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his high body count indicate in this situation that he was going to cheat on me or would I know that
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like he's a good guy and it's just his past and because that would make a good it's a good question
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actually because it kind of depends on where the guy's at at the moment that you arrive at that and
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if he's somebody who's sort of reined it in a little bit then he's making a conscious effort to do that but
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if he's still sort of just throwing it around then that's obviously a red flag it's a bad indication
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in terms of cheating yeah but I feel like men can cheat and not have the emotion behind it I feel
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like it's more of a feminine if they if they don't fear god they will do that if they don't
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what if they don't fear god they can do that and not have any accountability but a religious man will
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not want he'll like you know you won't be able to sleep at night so you don't think that a religious
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man can go out and cheat on his wife and he he can and it does it does happen but if you actually
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have a relationship with god and if you're actually in tune with it then if you have you ever um
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he would never read this I was gonna say dostoevsky's crime and punishment it's a book about the
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human conscience like the human conscience and the fact that it just eats away I fucking love
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dostoevsky oh yeah very nice fucking loves he's the man yeah he's the man he's the shit um wait
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actually this kind of brings up a uh oh sorry did you want to continue with your point no I was just
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I was just saying I think that's a it's a like so for example me I've come into faith over the last
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few years and I was I was never a choir boy growing up you know from my teenage years early 20s
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and I've had my experiences so back then I would have been a bad bet but now as I've come into it
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a little bit more and as I've developed a relationship with god and I've sort of gotten
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more tuned in and plugged in with other men who are sort of christians it's helped me a lot
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not perfect by anyone's imagination but you know it's it's helped jake your view on this okay when it
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comes to cheating and I don't think cheating is good whether it's a man or a woman doing it if you
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cheat that's wrong no matter what I do think though that there is a tendency the reasons why
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men and women cheat are different would you agree with that yes absolutely yeah yeah and I think I think
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it could be said that when a woman cheats like that's the end of the relationship in terms of in terms
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of how she views her partner but if a man cheats now okay again if if that's a deal breaker for the
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woman absolutely but I think a man cheating doesn't necessarily indicate that like if a woman cheats on
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you she's not in love with you it's over it's done she doesn't like it but like I think she doesn't
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respect you she doesn't respect you anymore it's gone like it's done whereas I do think and again I'm
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not saying cheating is good I'm not in favor of cheating but the differences are different and I
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do think men will cheat purely on like a physical urge level it's without any emotion being involved
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whereas like if a woman cheats I think there's like it's like way fucking heavier it is way
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it just makes it sound like men are like terrible though like it makes it sound like men don't have
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a way to have an emotional connection with person that they're with but you would say that if a woman
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cheats oh man she's like she doesn't respect me at all but if a man cheats I'm not going to have
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that same reaction it's true though if a woman cheats I think your reaction is totally understandable
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if a man cheats on you and if that's like your value set particularly however the act of having
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sex for a man and a woman is is just two different things the act of a woman opening herself up and
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letting a man inside it's like a very very like submissive act as well and the thought for a man of your
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girl being submissive in that way to another man is just it's it's horrifying and I can understand
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it would be the same same for you I think it comes back to how does the man value sex because if
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we're you're saying that a woman is like oh this is like the big important thing and that's why it's
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worse when she cheats on somebody why doesn't the man think of it the same way if a man thought of sex
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the same way that you're claiming women do that we see it this high value like you know if if she
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cheats on me then like it's the end of the world why can't men value sex the same way that it's
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giving of yourself yeah I mean idea idea ideally we would because then you would see your partner
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as like you're the only person I will ever do this with I can't even imagine doing it with
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yeah if the world was perfect that would be the way it is I'm just saying that to to make it like
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so do you think that men and women having sex is the same are like terrible people do you think
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that women and men having sex are the same do you think it's biologically the same no and and I
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think that's why to actually to the point you were making before how you you're okay with with a man
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cheating on you I think if anything if we actually agree that men having sex is different than women
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then it it shows loyalty and commitment and dedication even more and you can fall more in
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love with somebody knowing that they're not doing the thing that you claim biologically they're they're
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meant to do for you for you would rather him not have sex with anyone else yeah I mean of course
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that's what I would wish for but I don't necessarily want to make that decision for him
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because it shows willpower that a man may maybe you think this isn't always true but let's pretend
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this man is like sex like driven that's all he's thinking about if he can stop himself from doing
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that for the sake of like a relationship for the sake of your soul for the sake of his own soul
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that's so much more powerful though it's so much more powerful than just going and doing it you know
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and then saying that if he's better a high value man because he has experience it doesn't make
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sense to me it doesn't add up I think just because sex between men and women are different
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doesn't mean that it makes it more or less okay for one of them to cheat on the other that's not
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what that's not what we're arguing though we're just having a conversation of the reasons why men and
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women cheat can be different I already prefaced it by saying cheating is not acceptable it's wrong
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and as a woman if you want to break up with your guy for cheating totally acceptable vice versa
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totally fine but I think we can all agree like there are certainly differences between men and
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women and and the reasons why a man might cheat may very well differ for the reasons why women might
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cheat for example a man might be more motivated by simply satisfying certain physical or sexual urges
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where a woman may be and this could even be the reverse but a woman may be more inclined to cheat
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because bro that's it's the end of the relationship and there's there's some emotional connection with
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another uh person I'm not saying it's right or wrong I'm just saying the reasons why which uh could
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could vary quite differently but which is why like for example I think it may be the case that it's more
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likely that a man could and again I think it's wrong but a man could cheat on his girlfriend or wife
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and still absolutely be in love with her whereas I think the reverse it it I don't think it really
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plays out that way again I'm not saying cheating is good I'm just saying the the motivations there
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are different but unfaithfulness is like the definite definition of not loving somebody though
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it's literally love like some kind of like mystical feeling but it's emotionally love is a choice
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not physically it's an action so by literally going the exact opposite of of not loving that person
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you can't say that you still love your wife if you go against her like but it's emotionless with a
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man it's emotional with that's not true but it's just scientifically not accurate to say that men
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don't have emotions it makes it sound like they're just like these animals no they have
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yeah let's let's look at it I mean there's also certain biological men are more likely likely to cheat
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for sexual variety while women tend to have an affair in a means to find a better suited partner or
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stronger connection thank you evidence suggests that women tend to cheat with one person becoming
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emotionally involved in the process and often looking to fall in love David Buss he's like a is he an
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evolutionary psychologist or what's his Eva uh evolutionary psychologist that's right you know
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you okay cool cool didn't he go to UCSB or was a professor at UCSB all right am I thinking of
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puberman anyways um it kind of seems like we all agree on this then yeah like we all agree it's
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wrong yeah they might do it for I think I think yeah we do agree but I think where we would disagree
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is when you say that a man can't love a woman if he cheats on her and like this is me still
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manning an argument that I don't agree with it's a word it's a way that I wouldn't act I've never
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cheated on somebody never will but I think that there would be occasions when a man could cheat on a
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woman and still love that woman so I don't think that that disqualifies it what is love what is
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your definition of love what is this like I mean I'm not going to give a definition of love but I'm
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just going to say you have to give a definition of love if you say that cheating on someone can
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still be loving it's just an emotion love is love it's just how you feel it's not an emotion
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love is not an emotion at all you can't feel love love is an action and then you feel it after you
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you create that action so it can be an it is infatuation is like emotion a feeling lust is a
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feeling but love is just an action like there's no like people say like oh we just fell out of love so
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we got divorced and like that is a problem for many divorces because they were going to the
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marriage thinking love is a feeling so if we're not in love anymore just get divorced and that's
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kind of the same thing you're saying like oh I still love them but I cheated but that's not loving
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but what if it's an accident what if you deeply deeply regret it like you can't live with yourself
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because you regret it so badly you shouldn't have done it in the first place love is one okay people
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make mistakes though I think like coming from such like a worldview of so like everything has to be so
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perfect if you make a mistake and you deeply deeply regret it you can still love
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you can still love that person you can absolutely regret it and you can mourn for their loss and you
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can be forgiven of it that doesn't necessarily mean that you can believe the person still loves you
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okay so so you don't think that it's possible for a man to still love a woman if he's cheated on
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her you don't think I wouldn't believe that they would love you anymore not possible love is
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willing the good of the other cheating on me is not willing the good of me but I mean but you I
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certainly you can be forgiven but that doesn't mean I believe you okay so so so listen for sure so the
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path back is there if you if you're a man and you cheat on a woman you can still technically love her
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at a later time no you can't you didn't you didn't will the good of that person at all at that time
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so you think that you can just erase like things that happen do you think that any mistake that
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happens whatsoever you know when you're not willing I think that's a mistake that's like a bit more
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than like oh I like broke your favorite thing like but it's different but so like what's the
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difference between that and say you slap your partner in the face um you well chemical bonding
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with with being with somebody else is a lot worse okay so you if advice if I was but if you're
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talking about abuse if you're a man who slaps his wife in the face you don't hate at the moment
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you love this person and it's just the next day you're so sorry you apologize she says I know I
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was acting a bit uh that's called abuse and if you and if you tolerate that it's going to get worse
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and worse and that's what cheating is a violence no wait I'm not I'm not saying that there's anything
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right about abuse but I'm saying in a hypothetical scenario and I'm if that were to happen like you see
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like what happened with Dana White and his wife like a few months ago yeah if the man that I'm with
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slaps me in the face I'm leaving and I don't believe he loves me anymore because if I what
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about if you slapped him first I wouldn't that's what about if you did it's a hypothetical that's
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domestic violence okay but what about if if that happened I don't support it either but it's a
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hypothetical so what if I slap the person I'm with or he slapped me if you slap the person you're with
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and then he slapped you can he still love you no love is willing to go to the other what if you
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have five children together are you gonna be with a woman who's gonna slap you hold on a second
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what if you have five children together yeah and that was a heat of the moment mistake
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and then one year later you still have those children together you're still building your
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life together but you can't love that person anymore um you can forgive that person if they
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never okay so you can love them again no I said forgive them okay and then you can love them
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you forgive them love's just you forgive them and then I wouldn't be with I wouldn't have five
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children with a man who was hypothetical it's a hypothetical you would so you're saying so you're
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in a relationship you have five children you're married you've been married and he cheats
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one time and you say that he doesn't love you after all you birth all those five children's
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you'll have a little house on nantucket island and five children and he did he did it one time
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I I wouldn't I wouldn't marry someone who would do that the hypothetical though the hypothetical it's
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not all about your perfect worldview it's in a hypothetical scenario if that were to happen
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can the man still love the woman I don't believe so her that's ridiculous you've been you've been
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dating somebody you've been dating somebody for 2.5 years has your boyfriend done anything wrong no
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nothing not a single thing no no you mean like slapping me sorry no no no he's you've never had
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an argument you've never disagreed on something he's never even said something that you took even
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a slight offense to nothing of course I have we have discussions all the time okay but keep going
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are you gonna equate that to slapping no but it seems like you're saying and look I I think none of
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us here are in favor of cheating or you know if there's a dv obviously nobody's in favor of that but it's a
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hypothetical question to say that if hypothetically that were to happen it's a terrible thing to happen
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yes I'm not saying it's not domestic violence nobody said it's not domestic violence hypothetically
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could the love still exist I have a quote I have a question on this so are you Catholic yes Sam
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you're Catholic so you don't believe in divorce correct correct okay so if uh using Jake's example
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uh there's five kids been married for 10 years everything's been great somehow some superheated
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argument happens and like uh the if the husband slapped the wife um divorce I know where you're
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going and the answer is no because I wouldn't marry someone who would do that that's no one's
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gonna say you never know you're with somebody who would slap you then you're you shouldn't be with
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them you shouldn't marry them and have five kids okay but you're talking from a utopian utopian
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perspective but you're talking about individual people you are engaged you would not somebody who
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would never do that human beings are flawed human beings make mistakes but they're not those things
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happen and good people do that as well mistake is maybe having a verbal discussion that gets heated
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but it would never lead to a physical altercation if it does do you think a good man has ever
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slapped his wife I don't believe so that's ridiculous why people make bad mistakes all the time
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nobody is perfect what do you think you're religious good doesn't mean good at all hours of the day
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every single day never make a mistake that's not good I draw the line at physical altercations so
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just even a little pop but okay would you no no why are we arguing wait where does the bible say
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that you can divorce your husband hold if he slaps you wait okay hold on hold on so it's it's a bit
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I it's it seems to me and there's perhaps a specific fallacy for this but you're saying that you you would
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never marry somebody who would have the capacity to do that but like you don't have what's that
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fucking minority report thing when they had when they could see the into the future what's that
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called pre premonition like you wouldn't like predestination that's some some fucking scenario
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maybe you like I I don't know again we're not it's you shouldn't be hitting anybody but if it did
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happen I understand what you're saying but you keep saying like well I would never marry somebody
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but engage with the actual conversation fine so would you divorce if no I wouldn't divorce if if
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there was a slap no of course not with someone that doesn't love you that doesn't that doesn't
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mean that I have to divorce them fair enough okay so then but so you wouldn't divorce under those
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circumstances under no circumstances in that circumstance I would keep it up for the kids
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okay yeah okay it's not worth it but you think okay so you wouldn't you wouldn't divorce although
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isn't divorce you can divorce in the case of it's annulment you can get an annulment if there's
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domestic violence which is completely my position oh so would you get an annulment yeah because
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this all comes back to the fact that you say you can be a good man and slap your wife like that it's
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a mistake but but you can still be a good man my view is that if you have domestic violence inside
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your relationship in my view where I'm Catholic and I don't believe in divorce then you're going
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against the vows that you you said when we got married and so you're saying that you have to be
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perfect in marriage otherwise you can't be a good man they're not slapping your wife doesn't mean
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the vows there's more vows than that absolutely but I'm saying domestic violence is a very like
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it's like top okay so if you think that literally directly against the vows if a man looks at a woman
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with lust has he cheated on her yes and he's can he be a good man um if he repents of it of course
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okay so that the love can still be there even if he goes against the vows I already said that
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domestic violence is a different tier than like but we're talking about in terms of your vows
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and we're talking about it on a biblical sense so that's also a sin looking at someone with lust in
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your heart you've already cheated and I think it also has to do with that you're saying you're saying
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that's cheating it can be if you don't repent that's what the bible says so then if you just
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go cheat as if your man just goes it's okay it's but if that's what the bible says if a man has
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committed adultery then you're saying that's adultery absolutely so you're saying that he can't be a
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good man and the love is gone after that um I I was talking about domestic violence when you when
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you asked me that so I'm not gonna I'm not gonna make it about other okay but is he willing is he
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willing the good of that person in that situation no okay just because you're not willing to get
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another person in these situations doesn't mean there's grounds for divorce like you're mixing
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up all the different okay okay so you're saying that domestic violence is in a different tier and
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that there is no way that somebody can ever love somebody if they if they do that no no
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circumstance you still haven't defined love to me so therefore you repeating the same
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I'll grant I'll grant your definition I'll grant your definition willing the good of the other
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yeah yeah your question I'll grant your definition I agree with it yeah okay so there
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is no situation where that could happen where then the man could ever still love the woman is what
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you're saying I personally don't think so but that's just that's just where I'm coming from
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and I and I can see I think this is the kind of thing where this isn't some like we were talking
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about earlier about abortion where it's a moral like black and white I don't think this is some
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kind of moral black and white I think other people can have different opinions on it but
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earlier didn't you say morality is black and white no I'm saying this isn't one that's that's what
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I'm saying no but there's morality as a whole is black and white this is what I'm saying that this
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isn't just one question just one question so we but before we did say that you can't love your
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partner if you cheat on them after we we did have that conversation where you said that if a man
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commits adultery then he can't love his partner after that I don't believe that he's willing the good
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of another person when he cheats okay so then would you would you agree with the would you agree
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with the bible when the bible says that if you look at a woman with adult with with lust then
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you've committed adultery in your heart yes so then you're saying that a man can't love a woman if
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he looks at another woman with lust yes that's ridiculous why you just you just agreed because we
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don't live in a perfect world and men make mistakes and men do that all the time standard though the point
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is I'm speaking from having a standard where we're talking about someone who who doesn't think
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cheating's wrong and so I'm saying that it's actually wrong yeah here let's uh we're gonna
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switch gears here uh one one to to finish off on this really quick do you think that uh I asked you
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okay so annulment would be warranted under the circumstances if a woman slapped a man slapped
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her husband would annulment be warranted also yes they're two people is all right either or I just want
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to make sure that you have the same standard for both absolutely men and women and I don't think
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anybody here is in favor of like domestic violence or anything it was a hypothetical we're just
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talking about it for sure I'm worried I was like oh god am I gonna get clipped is jake gonna get
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clipped all right um so it's tough when you're having these sort of like kind of nuanced conversations
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all this nope I mean for where on the screen there was a comment on the screen and in the middle of
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like this whole debate someone like brought up a really good uh point okay like I forgot I forgot
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who it was but they were like oh like this is why you should date to marry and why like he said something
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about like Asian cultures like they date to marry and they tend to have like better marriages and whatnot
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and then he said like um that's why the west is kind of like uh deteriorating when it comes to dating
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because it's like it's kind of like a free-for-all now um I wasn't sure if you guys had caught that
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I just wanted if that's something it was below it was below the threshold so we agree with that I think
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we all technically agree that in a perfect world people would date to marry and people would be
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virgins until marriage but we live in a fallen world and we have to meet the world where it is
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we have fally here good evening everyone bricks and small suggestion increase the tts back to 200
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so apologies if I'm vulgar dgens like hunter and the numbers guy are less likely to comment
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indecent stuff piece um uh I mean I think uh you know I think the tts at this threshold like I only
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boost the tts if we have like a really big panel like last show we had like what 12 13 people madison
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yeah it was just like we had way too much to get through and if it was the tts was too frequent
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it would just take forever to get through it um I think this is a pretty solid threshold and also if
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we have a big guest especially like for example when we had charlie kirk like you know he was only
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here for a limited period of time we want to give him you know as much uninterrupted uh air time as
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possible but thank you fally appreciate that and then we also have miss nims canadian 50 hey thank you
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miss nims by 30 what is considered a high body count um I mean I suppose I could open this up
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to the panel here but uh thoughts anybody do you start um I think by 30 a high body count would be
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for a woman for oh for a woman okay uh for a man I don't think it matters for a woman I would say
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five or six okay um I guess anything over 25 anything over 25 is that your way of telling us
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that your body counts 25 way more but yeah uh should we do body count madison wait actually hold on
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we'll do it later we'll do I'll do it later uh okay your answer what's a high body count for a woman
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yeah anything over five six okay um I don't know I've I've never really considered it as like a bad
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thing so I would say more like your answer like I could see girls I know lots of girls who who fuck a lot
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oh yeah um I don't know what the scale would be for high or low like I don't know what what would be
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high because they're just people so for both men and women I think I don't know what would be a high
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body count just what what is hot what is that is the question what you think it's not about what
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they think like what what do you think a thousand a thousand that's what I'm saying okay go ahead go
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ahead I legitimately have no idea okay Sarah I don't know like I'm thinking about what the average
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would be I guess probably right like the way the world is right now probably like five would be
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average so high would be 10 or something I don't know
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Jake what is a high body count for a for a woman over 30 uh anything over 10
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yeah I'd agree I'd say over 10 it's uh obviously the thing is though is like the lower the better
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so uh there you have it uh let me finally get into some of my pre-show notes from all of y'all so
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uh Nick if you can hide that for me thank you let's start with Alyssa here Alyssa
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you got married too young got divorced we went over that a bit you dated someone new then got pregnant
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and married again uh then you were cheated on when your baby was five months old in your own home
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with my friend rip uh and wait hold on uh and you said it's taken you a long while to stand up for
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yourself yep and your daughter and file again wait yep for divorce uh okay um because I agree with
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you of where love is an action and someone still can love you and you can forgive them and they can be
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a good man but if they stop loving you and they're not a good man then there's nothing you can do
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because I don't believe in divorce oftentimes it is once the trust seal is broken exactly it's done
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yeah the vast majority of the time and it's probably no other way but yeah so that's why I stayed way too
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long and I finally got to the point where I found some self-confidence and decided to break it
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but that's not break what my marriage oh just be done with it okay you guys don't still live
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together correct no no he moved out real quick and real easy oh like what do you mean like I told him
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it was time like it got toxic and he just he had no respect for me anymore and so I like had my low
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self-esteem so I finally asked him to go and he just left so you kept the you guys did you guys own
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the house or yeah I stay in the house it's my father's oh it's your okay oh so he moved in with
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you okay I see and then um wait so okay does he pay does he pay child support or no no do you want
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him to well I want him to support his child does you guys have shared custody that's what I filed
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for yeah oh you okay he's not a bad father yeah horrible husband I see okay uh-huh uh let's see what
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else you said modern dating is too fast the culture is too perverse and revealing mystery is much more
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enticing but no judgments here you had to learn that what do you when you say mystery is much more
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enticing what do you mean like I don't know I feel like you'd build a better relationship if you
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didn't just give it away so quickly but that's not for me to judge because my example is terrible
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well so in all your previous uh relationship escapades uh I mean how long would you typically wait
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um well anybody else I was with it was in high school so like a year and a half
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what do you mean like when I started dating someone in high school we'd wait like a year
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to have sex a year yeah I was in high school how old are you again is this the fucking 1950s
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it should be god damn okay uh okay so uh but you say that the culture is too perverse and revealing
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mystery is much more enticing but so for all your relationships you've always waited
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or like high school yeah so with the exception of your most recent relationship yeah uh you waited
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how long the like a few days hey no judgment I got pregnant within a month of us dating
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yeah but then he was like oh I'm gonna marry you because I had just gotten out of a terrible
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relationship like on and off boyfriend from high school we married young he did drugs messed around
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okay but I didn't know any of that so when I found all that out it was like huge wait so you had just
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broken up with your previous husband yeah him and I weren't together for about a year while the
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divorce was filing and I was like 21 yeah and then after it was officially done okay this guy asked me
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out and so I said yes and then he was like prince charming or so I thought until there was infidelity
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can I ask you a question um how long were you guys married for or dating dating and married when he did
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that no no how long just total were you guys together oh four and a half years almost five
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total but we got married like a month before my daughter was born and then so she was five months
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so we were only married six months okay was uh hold on and you total you were together for four years
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so I stayed because you know that's love what do you think precipitated the infidelity uh and if you
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don't mind me asking I mean were you guys in a dead bedroom relationship no not at all no okay
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okay and then I got to the point where I was still like begging him for sex mm-hmm oh okay all right and
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he didn't you wanted it he didn't yep but then all right my friend in the bathroom wait he huh
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my friend came out to visit me to see our baby and then I woke up at four in the morning to find
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him not in bed with me and walk down the hallway to hear them in the bathroom excuse me
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so how how good friends was it like a long oh I had known her like six years since childhood or
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okay six years yeah I had known her six years oh god that's wait had and how did you not kill her
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hold on hold on had you met before christ huh had they met before had they met before um I think one
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time she flew out when we were dating that's and I was pregnant and then because she lives on the east
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coast and then she flew out after my daughter was born do you have any suspicion that they
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cheated that initial meeting see I think about that often because she used to talk to me about
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how her husband never initiated sex and how she wanted to be wanted and I remember standing there
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thinking like oh that sucks because my husband was amazing he's my boyfriend at the time I was like
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oh that's all he ever did he made me feel sexy and so I don't know if she did have that but that
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was the first night her and her sister her younger sister came out and that was the first night they
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stayed that's a pretty great oh so she she came your friend came with her sister younger sister to see
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the baby it was the friend not the sister correct it was yeah my friend your friend okay they and so
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they were staying at your house yes your family house yep and your friend of six years cheated
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or well had sex with your husband yep in please tell me it wasn't in your bedroom no it was in our
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bathroom oh in the all right in the bathroom so I knocked because I heard them and then she goes just
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a minute and I said no you need to open this door now and then she comes out all like oh and then I
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went in and I opened the shower curtain and he's sitting there and the hat I bought him the shirt
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and his wedding ring you you not only found out they cheated you caught them in the act yeah I
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heard them they broke the towel rack what the fuck what the holy shit okay now that's a reason to
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wait what did they break straight away they broke the towel holder now that's when I'd agree with you
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that the love's gone that's that's egregious that is egregious I wish I did in that moment I wish I
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had the balls to go but I didn't I got them both water I told her to what no that's it don't
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the water in her face clip it get get rid of that that you we cannot have that okay
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you're like hold on can so just like demonstrating you you you wait it's okay you caught them
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in the bathroom oh I've heard it all I know what he sounds like you know have you ever gone a
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professional massage and you know after the massage they come to you with like this little
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little cup and they're like here you go do you need some hydration was it like that oh my god no I
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literally just like I don't know I all I can say is that I just had Christ in me at the moment and I
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he that look on his face was that of I fucked up and so I know he knows he fucked up but after that
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yo that's a major do you have an idea about like who seduced who or did you get any like
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other details yeah um we I mean we're all drinking in our back room and they started to get real
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flirty he started to do things with like show her music videos that he did with me on our first date
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and so I told her sister I said you watch them and she was all ha ha I even actually set my phone up
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but I was like buzzed to listen and I heard her talking bad about me on it um but then I went and
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grabbed my phone later that night and I went to bed oh wait you went to bed without them and then
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and then I woke up at four in the morning and then I went back and the door was locked so I knew he had
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locked them out of that room and then I walked back down the hall and that's what I heard him in the
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yo hold it so what okay you you see them you know oh I heard it what so you walk in what do you say
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what what do you say um she just kept saying um I love my husband I'm married I love my husband
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oh she I wish I said no wait your friend was married to you did they deny her I went to her wedding
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like a couple months prior I flew out for her wedding and I did all her flowers wait so
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do they have kids no are they divorcing nope I know I know she lied to him why does she lie
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do you reckon she hates you or she's at least very jealous of you because often when women are
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really jealous like that they might get back at you
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I don't know did you steal a boyfriend or something no I flew out and did her flowers
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for her wedding I don't get that impression that's uh never that's sick but she said she
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still loves her husband and then she went back and he was all drunk and wait so did did I don't know
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did the husband did the husband uh I don't think she told him the truth he unfollowed me on instagram
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like her family but how did this not get back to them I she's a lying sack of crap no but did did you
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approach the husband and say yo come get your fucking wife what the fuck I thought about telling
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our little sister too but I don't know the little the sister was there at the house how was this not
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like fucking major fucking nuclear I wish I went batshit crazy I do I wish I had my moment and I
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wish I went crazy okay but I did not I sat there and I did dishes because I mean I like four in the
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morning and then I waited for the light and I went to my parents house and this my baby this wasn't
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something you like you saw it yeah well just speaking briefly on the fucking husband of the
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that dude's that's a fucking major cuck if you're gonna stay with your cheating yeah what okay first
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off tear a couple really uh terrible things here your friend the betrayal from your friend yeah and
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from your husband uh absolutely egregious doing it in your house I mean there's just so many layers
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to this so first off uh sorry to hear that you went through that um and I mean I certainly applaud you
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for uh I mean for actually I suppose it sounds like you were actually rather stoic in that moment
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and you know uh did not I mean I I wouldn't have blamed you certainly if you had a major fucking
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meltdown seeing that I mean no the the sort of like that um I heard somewhere that I don't know if
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it's in the bible but somewhere somebody told me that Jesus prays for you when you're about to go
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through things and I know that that was that moment that was the only thing I felt wait read this here
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read this down here I mean I do think the husband I mean you should at least make some sort of I I think
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he knows something happened oh he's just he does now wants to be ignorant I guess all right there we go
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that's a good point there we go goddamn that's fucking insane uh yeah five years later that's
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pretty fucking scummy uh super scummy can I ask you questions um do you think that you don't have
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to answer if it's personal but do you think you would have married him if you guys didn't have a kid
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together no I not that quickly if if I had dated him to now know the type of he's very charming and
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then all of a sudden it'll turn to condescending like it got to the point where I was begging him
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like I would walk in naked for attention and he would say things like we get at your tan or we get
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at your skinny and that would like to walk away from that and that humiliation yeah and then like
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trying to talk to him about it laugh at me yeah I just but I had no self-worth I literally got
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married so young it turned out crappy I got divorced that was my parents well you're gonna go to hell
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and then met and got pregnant yeah and it was just like why Alyssa do you think it changed your view
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of like waiting for for sex later on in like a relationship like oh absolutely or is it did it
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change that view at all oh yeah no I've repented hardcore and that what's nice is like when I had
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been in bad relationships after I would seek attention and not like necessarily sexual attention
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but just like any type of attention to make myself feel worth and I repented that because I don't want
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to be that type of person so it was nice because after that truth bomb donated $100 hate to see this
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you have no idea this same thing happened to me in 15 year marriage I have since turned to my faith
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yo truth bomb sorry to hear that that uh that happened to you man uh yeah so wait and remind us so you
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when did the uh infidelity occur how long ago was it you said um eight months ago no my daughter was
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six months old so like four and a half years ago four and a half years ago hunter donated $100
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nothing wrong with what he did men need girlfriends he cheated because he was tired of the same cat
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woman protect a man's spurt and men give woman children and provide materially okay there you have
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it from hunter sorry to him hot take from hunter I should have said aren't you happy so you've not
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have you not uh dated at all since the incident the incident or like filing for divorce both um no
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oh so you've had relationships no what do you mean like have you been seeing guys dating any guys
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no my heart's broken okay do you think there's any chance this may come off as I hope it probably
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will come off disrespectful but I'm just curious do you think there's any chance that you would have
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stayed with him like you I know I even after all of that happened you had to stay with him I mean
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like oh wait the guy hold on this was years ago the guy who stayed with him for years she did oh yeah
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yeah yeah I thought you guys were you only divorced more recently but you were separated for much longer
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oh so you wait after that infidelity happened like a few months later my mom was diagnosed with
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cancer a month after that he was diagnosed with cancer and then it was just that like weird talking
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yourself into like well I can't be the bitch now that doesn't like the guy with cancer but after that
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he got so just aggressive like angry aggressive screaming at me slamming things yeah and then it was
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always my fault it was always well you did this or I'm angry because you did this and then it was he had
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and I didn't tell anybody about his infidelity so everyone had a painted picture of like him being
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Prince Charming because that's what he presented and so who am I going to be the bitch to divorce the
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perfect guy with cancer so I stayed and I stayed for my daughter and then she got terrified and it got to
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the point where it was like this isn't healthy anymore and I remember trying to talk to him that day
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and he laughed at me and I said I had the balls and I said I think it's time for you to go and he went
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huh yeah and then I wrote him a letter the next morning and I said I don't want you to go I don't
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want this relationship to end you cannot talk to me the way you do blah blah blah and he just left
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didn't say a word to me he never tried never said sorry never asked so okay so and that was over a year
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ago but you've uh from the point of the infidelity occurring and now you've not been intimate with
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any other men no okay but you continued being intimate with him after the infidelity yeah very
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rarely pretty rarely yeah he wouldn't like we were like roommates and I was so embarrassed to keep
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trying to try to get attention from a man who treated me like that also men like normally we like
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won't we have certain urges do you think that the infidelity may have been more wide wide spanning
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than you you thought if he really didn't want to have sex with you do you think maybe he was
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getting it somewhere else dude if if he fucked another like her friend in her house there's like
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this guy's like that's like a vicious dog you know this guy's such a fucking dog it must there must
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have been I don't if you can do that that's like going from zero to a hundred there's gotta be
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bro yeah there's gotta be uh other guys so uh or excuse me other there could be it was he might
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have been gay who knows terrible thing to think about though I had a girlfriend once I'm pretty
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sure was cheating on me for quite a while that's terrible and I can't I can't be sure it was when
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I was much younger but looking back and I'm like I don't know and it's like yeah I don't think he was
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we were very hot and heavy and that's I mean I got pregnant and then we got married like
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10 months later and so it was just that or nine months later but I never said no to him
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I mean that was we it was a very lusty relationship and that's why I don't think it was founded on love
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he had no faith I mean he would make fun of me for my political beliefs my religion was he a liberal
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oh god you should straight away oh I know now wait so so uh hold on he just treated me like I was some
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dumb hick that's what he treated me like he made fun of my family it just was he quite a couple
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questions how tall was he 5'11 oh he's 5'11 okay how tall are you 5'8 oh five okay um was he wealthy
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he moved in with her I don't know no what did he what did he do for work don't don't dox him just
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like what um he is an engineer yes he's a very smart man he makes a lot of money software engineer
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no he's a um mechanical engineer okay it's a good guess yeah uh handsome very handsome he's a good
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looking guy Chad yeah very chatty chatty Chad liberal he was like the overly confident guy and
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now I've got on like you want you want the kind guy he's a narcissist yeah he's very he has a lot of
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those qualities okay well uh I mean that's you've certainly been through quite a lot I mean you know
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you said that it was who else got cancer there was someone else who had cancer my mom she passed
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of brain cancer shit sorry to hear that uh I mean yeah you've definitely uh that's you've been
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quite through a lot both in your with uh your better things around the corner yeah guarantee it
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guarantee it you you're on the whatever podcast it's all uphill it's all uphill from here um well
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yeah but uh definitely seems like you've uh certainly been through quite a bit and uh although I mean
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my my first impression of you I mean you come off like a very well put together person so
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I mean my applause for uh you know keeping your life together despite some of the uh difficult
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things that you've encountered uh recently so God is good I applaud you on that so um switching to
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we got some more pre-show notes here we have Katie hi Katie here she's an online content writer slash
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editor you did do OF uh for a year or so but you stopped in 2021 yeah were you doing you uh like
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just bg content girl girl content or just like solo content when you're mostly solo um every
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uh every now and then why why did you quit um honestly I never felt like I could really commit to
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it and I I just couldn't um like if I really really wanted to try to make a lot of money I guess I could
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have done that I was a very small operation and I had a full-time job at the time and I was kind of
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just like being crazy and having fun and just like not really knowing what I was doing so I didn't
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really have a purpose for doing it and then I just kind of got sick of it it was like kind of a lot of
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work so props to you who do stuff like that because you tell us about the there was a threesome what
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happened there oh that's one of my funnier stories uh that I thought might be interesting
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but I had a threesome um with a pregnant woman and I didn't know she was pregnant at the time but
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she just showed up and she was pregnant and I didn't want to be rude so I just did it she just
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showed up like you didn't know her like hardcore showing I met them on tinder uh yeah it was okay it
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was like it wasn't like about to burst but it was like noticeable where I was like I at first I was
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like maybe she's just like heavy and then I was like oh no I'm pretty sure pretty sure she's
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pregnant did you at least get godmother status you know what honestly I should have asked I should
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have asked wait I have a question uh yeah I don't know if you specified this your relationship
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yes is it with a man or with a woman a man oh okay I don't know where I got that from uh okay
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are you bisexual though I am yes yeah uh so you and have you had other threesomes or is that just the
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single that was like my thing for a while I was like a unicorn on tinder yeah yeah and it was it
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was like one of those things like some people have talked about um like seeking validation um
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because I had really low self-esteem and it was just like an easy way to just feel validated and
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how many uh unicorn threesome situations do you think not that many I would say maybe two to three
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two to three okay uh you also wrote here your dating app experience prior to your current
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relationship was a practice in self-destruction yes too much chaos that came from insecurity however
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I don't think a high body count necessarily means a woman should be discounted because I think trauma
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can cause both men and women to use sex as a coping mechanism before growing slash learning and coming
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into oneself uh so you said that the dating app experience was a practice in self-destruction so I
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mean besides the two to three threesomes were you also just having kind of uh what's the term just
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casual casual no there's a different term for it uh indiscriminate sex with
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kind of it it often didn't actually like lead to sex but it was a lot of first dates
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um first dates and dates that like I didn't intend to have really go anywhere it was just like how can I
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keep like I don't know keep myself validated and busy um and typically it didn't go very far it was
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like a lot of douche bags and uh just like yeah it was shitty it sucked I didn't meet barely anyone
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great I don't know how people do it okay yeah tinder's a bit like that and you said yeah we touched on
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body count a little bit here but hold on you said find a lot of the readers oh well we already did
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this but uh you we were talking about the you know the rating and in your notes here you said I also
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find a lot of the rate yourself answers frustrating we were talking about physical reality and being
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healthily confident is not the same as thinking you're physically perfect yeah did you want to
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weigh I think that's in response to like the one to ten rating thing yeah yeah so we like we already
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did that and I yeah I just watching the show quite a bit I find whatever someone gives
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an answer of like I don't know just like no I guess not wanting to do it but I don't care no
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judgment to you guys but I I I'm like no it's just like relative to what you think about yourself okay
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I see what you're saying yeah like I guess I'm a saying I agree with you and what you typically say
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sure and you said uh going back to the body count thing you think I don't think a high body count
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necessarily means a woman should be discounted yeah because I think trauma can cause both men and women
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to use sex as a coping mechanism um do you care to elaborate a little bit on that so you would
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would you object to a guy discounting a woman if she had a high body count I I think it's yeah
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like I'm not gonna like you know yell at them or whatever but I think there's like wrong I don't
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necessarily think they're wrong I think as a general rule it probably is like I understand where you're
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coming from as a guy being like I don't want you to have a high body count but I don't think
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I think there are exceptions I think it's like like you said like people can go through shitty things in
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life and learn to be better and just because you had like a crazy past doesn't mean you're gonna have
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a crazy future or maybe there's even someone who didn't have a crazy past and then kind of breaks and
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goes for it like in their 30s or 40s I don't know that's where I think there can be exceptions sure
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well going around the table on this question um does body count matter and do you object to a man
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discounting using her words here discounting a woman with a high body count starting with you
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going around go ahead can you ask that that last question about discounting yeah do you object to
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a man discounting a woman with a high body count I think the body count is really important I think
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as a woman your body count is a reflection of part of your value and I don't see an issue with a man
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having a problem with a woman having a high body count I think that it's reasonable and just
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hunter donated 100 men's validation doesn't come from cheating it comes from masculine achievement
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the sexual marketplace for a man is the byproduct of that with no achievement the man's access is nearly
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zero wait the sexual market for men is the byproduct uh okay thank you hunter for that
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thought appreciate it thank you hunter yeah I think I think body count is really important
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um I think it's a reflection of your value as a woman okay all right
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um I don't really care if somebody discounts me because I have a high body count they're not
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typically the people I look for anyway I personally don't think it's important but that's it
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can you repeat the question one more time uh so do you object to men discounting women
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if they because of their body count no everyone has a preference okay I think you've we know your
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position on it you think that that's uh you disagree with men doing that I think I think I
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just I believe in you know people as a whole I don't think just because your body count is high
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that you're necessarily like gonna be a shitty partner okay what about you um I definitely think
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body count matters um but it's a little bit more than just uh like a black and white thing I think it's
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that it should be both it's not just women women's like body count should be discounted by men or
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whatever I think it's both that both men and women's body counts matter okay I agree with that take um I
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think men and women's body counts should be um both considered um but going back to like the final
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question should men be shamed or should men like have the right to um just reject a woman because her
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body count I think it depends on the man because if you are a man with a high body count and you
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have that standard for yourself you want to go for a woman you disregard a woman who also has a
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high body count I think you should even it out even out your values for the both of you
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okay I have a response to that but go ahead Sarah um I think people can have preferences and I think
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it's fine to say I don't want to be with someone who's promiscuous or whatever um but I also just
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don't like I think it's just the word value bothers me because I just think it's kind of sad to think I
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have less value as a person because of things I've done and I think it's like kind of this like you were
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saying you struggle with self-worth and you think you because I think you're attributing your value
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to like your value in this sexual marketplace but I don't struggle with self-worth but I think that
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I mean obviously sexuality plays a big part and your value as a woman I think if you have a high
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body count you're not as valuable as a woman who is a virgin I think well when we're using this term
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value and I think perhaps Sarah where you're maybe misunderstanding is when when we're using this
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word value we're not saying like your value in terms of your uh life value your your value as a
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human being it's more it's used in the sense of your value in the dating marketplace yeah you're saying
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your sexual market value like what the average person would want so in that case I think yeah
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body count matters because a lot of men probably would prefer a lower body count I mean that's kind
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of just a fact yeah but I just I I'm just saying I don't like using the word value because it's just
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kind of sad it's like or body count yeah I just don't like it I feel like it's only sad if you have
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a high body count and you I don't feel like aren't a virgin because body just like removes the soul
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hunter donated 100 a woman's body count should be zero her job is to protect her man's spirit
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how can a woman protect a man's spirit if she couldn't protect her own I man's job is to provide
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and protect physically I would agree with that I think the most valuable woman would ideally be a
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virgin I think her job like if I could go if I could go back and change everything and have a higher value
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as a woman I would spend my time cooking learning how to cook better food staying away from going out
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not going to clubs not going and you know traveling I think that that's something that
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high value men look for and I wish that I could change the trajectory of like what's stopping you
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from doing that now that's a good question um wait sorry sorry you answer the question go ahead um I
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I haven't been with someone in quite a while I've been I guess stop the cow you've been celibate
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I have it has been a bit uh been a bit but how long have you been celibate for I'd say maybe
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a year maybe a year maybe she's so full of shit give or take well I I want you to answer his
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question but like I and I I do think you're pandering a little bit with some of your answers
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like I get the impression that you're pandering like I don't know if you're actually like you genuinely
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hold some of these positions and you're just like trying to like pander to the audience but
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chat do you think she's pandering a little bit anyways go ahead I think that's fair I mean I think
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that my opinion would definitely cater to an audience like this so I think that's a fair
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opinion to have um I know that I may not follow through with what I'm speaking about I know that I'm not
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the ideal woman I get that but that doesn't mean that I don't know what's right from wrong I know
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that I've made the wrong decisions I feel like if I were trying to pander to the audience maybe I
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could tell people that I don't have a body count of four or that you know I haven't been with anyone
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but I have and I am on OnlyFans and I'm not the perfect woman but that doesn't mean that I don't
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know what's right and what's wrong that doesn't mean that I don't know what a high value man looks
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for in a woman I know these things and I know that I'm not that person but I still am aware
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so why do you continue to do the wrong thing then like I mean that's a great question um has to be
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you know I I wish that I could have a good answer for that question I think that I'm just not sure
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exactly what like everyone says what I want to do right now with my life and I think that you know
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I believe in Jesus Christ and I believe that I can be forgiven I know it's sad but well I have a
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whole here we'll come to that in a sec but okay so you're uh let's say JC um okay let's finish up on
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the body count conversation um so I think we were actually getting into that everyone's body Madison
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what's your body count the only time I get to speak is when I'm here yeah exactly that's that's why
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she's here I'm a virgin I'm kidding it's eight four I can give like a roundabout sure like 120 120 okay
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surrounded by purity here feel it rubbing off on me um that's between me and the man upstairs
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okay all right good times okay that's everybody's body count thanks for watching the whatever pod
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I'm kidding okay uh all right uh so we we hit the body count um I'm trying to think if there's
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here let me uh I oh it came up from your point right your pre-show note so you say uh men should
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not discount women because of their body count um and I think they can be discounted I think if you
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want to that's fine yeah I would prefer like I would be more into somebody who wasn't so judgmental
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so that's where I'm coming so you think it's judgmental wrongly judgmental for a guy to not
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want to date a woman with a high body count I think it's just when I hear people talk about this it comes
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with a kind of vibe that's like looking at women with disgust I think if if you're saying it I don't
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think it's looking at women with disgust it's looking at promiscuity with uh with disgust and I think
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that just I mean you know disgust uh I mean the reality is like STDs are a thing oh absolutely like
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STDs for sure that's something to be concerned so somebody who has a high body count is more likely
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to have an STD for example I guess yeah I guess I I would just always think that this person would
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be checking like not just you know not what about anyone yeah I mean something could perhaps maybe
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they haven't tested for it maybe it's uh uh you know maybe they have HPV they don't know maybe
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I I think even with herpes you can perhaps be totally asymptomatic but uh I don't know I I don't
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want to say something that's just factually scientifically incorrect but um yeah I mean
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yeah that's fair I think it's just more of like the and it's not you guys it's just the tone of a lot
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of these conversations it ends up being like oh and if she has a high body count oh horrible like
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disgusting and no I mean I I avoid using that sort of uh language but like just I would prefer a woman
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with a low body count yeah and I respect that for sure absolutely but I think just that on its own
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is enough to disqualify a woman from a relationship from with me anyways other men are free to have
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their own standards although I certainly would encourage men one of the best things I think you
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can use as a metric uh when it comes to screening somebody is their promiscuity whether past or present
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I mean I'm the most promiscuous person here and I get tested every 14 days they don't okay
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well you're you're in the old adult entertainment industry you're in the porn industry but that sort
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of you're omitting the like this is I hear this argument frequently from uh porn actresses uh you're
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omitting rather deceptively you're omitting the fact that they don't test for herpes or HPV
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right no what do you mean no I mean they don't it's not required right you don't have to test
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right and you know tell me what would happen if they did start testing for herpes in the
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porn industry I don't know well okay I mean I feel like you should ask somebody who's like been in it
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longer okay how many uh how many you so you said your body counts over 120 uh if you had to break
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like how many of those were from work the majority like okay then like 95 95 of them and the rest were
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civilians I guess you could say uh as as you might say but the thing is is they don't test for herpes
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or HPV uh in these uh in the porn industry and the reality my understanding and I've spoken to quite a few
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women in porn uh if you're doing traditional porn like it's it's not if it's when you eventually
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catch herpes like you're gonna catch herpes if you're like frequently doing scenes you disagree
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I feel like you should ask somebody who's been in it longer like okay I'm still new like I feel
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like I'm not qualified to answer that that's terrifying just to think not if but when yeah I mean uh we had
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a girl on the show who she and what the crazy thing was it wasn't so much that she had herpes but
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she continued shooting and she wouldn't just she doesn't disclose to uh her scene partners that she
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has herpes she said isn't that a like illegal or something can't she get like I don't know but she
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says no she people don't really disclose in the porn industry if they have herpes so that's terrifying
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yeah loose pussy energy donated $100 my boy these futties got john wick type bodies with too many
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face and back shotties they take no accountabilities and brought great shame to their families especially
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the one in the backseas hashtag get the rocks that was fucking shakespeare in the flesh here thank you
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uh lp appreciate it man wait what were we talking about the stds or something herpes yeah yeah you
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know uh i have a question go ahead you said you were new to the porn industry like what was it that
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made you decide to do it like how recent wait hold on i i'll let you ask that question but you said
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you're new but you've done you've had sex with 95 men so you're not that new like six months that's
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still pretty fucking new six months six months yeah i mean is that how many is that like per week
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i'm thinking of a day can somebody do the dick math for us there's sites there's like threesomes like
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there's more than just like a boy girl like scene you know what i mean what's the biggest scene like
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what's the most in a day um like a boy boy girl girl so like four people okay word good times good
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times um did that answer your question or did you want to restate it sir i guess so is that not
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like is that emotionally damaging for you like does that make you happy yeah it makes me happy like
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i mean i'm not gonna say it doesn't like take a certain amount of energy out of me it's like
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performing so yeah it does take energy out of me but like it's not like i sit and like
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wallow in home all day or something crazy but it doesn't have like a negative effect on your
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mental health like neutral no do you think that does some of your soul huh like some of your soul
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what do you mean like being with that many men do you think that you kind of lose sight of like your
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soul through it no i feel like men has no correlation to my soul or anything like that do you have any
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like moral qualms with the porn industry or are you just part of it regardless of them
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um she's a communist socialist yeah but like actually because like i mean so many people who
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are in the porn industry are like actual victims of you know sex trafficking and so when people watch
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porn they don't even know if they're watching someone consenting to it or not so it's very like
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it's kind of one of those industries that has a lot of like evil to it so i'm just wondering do you
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know about that and like do you just before i have her answer that question i want to ask the chat
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feedback on this so oftentimes uh look i'm not a huge proponent of the porn industry with that said
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i do invite women who are involved in porn and only fans on the show uh do you guys think that
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the conversations we have and i have the chat pulled up here chat do you think that the conversations we
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have on the show like do you think it's kind of played out like uh like do you think it's productive
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to like have the porn bad conversation on the show because it just i feel like we it's it's never
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productive it's not really related to dating and you know like it's just what's that
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you know it's like look we get it it's definitely related to dating you know dead horse redundant
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played out maybe i'll do a poll i'll do a poll um oh hey jay oh look speaking of okay all right
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bricks and over 70 percent of genital herpes transmissions are spread without an outbreak
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60 bodies equals 12 infected partners do you think this putrid creature in front of you is actually
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clean hashtag vomit hashtag whoa whoa jay butler rude how dare you sir please
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no i disavow i disavow i disavow jay butler as a urologist i'd expect you to have a little more
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uh what's what's the word uh a little more class yeah i will not stand okay all right whatever uh all
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right i don't know where we were you were saying the porn doesn't affect dating it's not part of
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dating no that's not that's not what i was asking it's it's uh just like i feel like it's not even
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interesting for the audience to like have a conversation with the girls like about oh porn's
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bad that's basically it like so everyone agrees porn's bad is that what you're saying that it hurts
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relationships and it's run by trafficking and the patriarchy okay uh we'll get to your patriarchy
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comment in a little bit it's just like like having the conversation with women who are in the
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industry it's just like it's kind of i view it as a bull like it's just a such a boring conversation
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and it's like it's just never productive that's fair i don't think it's entertainment i think it's
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only interesting because she just recently got into it was why i wanted to know her thoughts on it but
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that's fair well and it's just like uh it's not really related to dating like asking somebody well
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what like that's porn generally can be related to dating but like having a conversation of like
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the porn's impact on the broader society is not dating related nickelodeon donated 100
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the snarky smile definitely tells me she knows and probably doesn't share either this convo is a
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little played out but important to know to be fair so is your world war ii argument lol the world war
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ii argument will never be old first of all and i typically you know i typically go to world war one
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that's my preferred war conflict to reference i'm more of a world war one guy you know the uniforms
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were better um you know so okay all right moving on uh let's see here we have i think we got through
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katie we have angelique hello okay you're a conservative feminist yes i mean i wouldn't
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actually put them together like that but i am a conservative i am a feminist yes you are conservative
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you are a feminist okay uh you uh can you explain explain how you're a feminist absolutely i'm a
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feminist because i stand for equal rights for all people specifically in our current society the one
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right that people do not have equally is the right to life and so i fight for the rights of all women
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to be born firstly and men as well but since we're talking about women's rights specifically why firstly
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women oh just because we're talking about feminism and a lot of times in modern feminism which is
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not real feminism i just i don't really want to consider it feminism but for the sake of the
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argument modern feminism likes to say that we're fighting for women's rights but to me i look around
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in society women have the same rights as men except women have more rights than men because we have the
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right to kill our own children so i'm a feminist because i stand for the original um reality of feminism
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which is simply the at the very basis a legal equality between men and women and the original
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purpose of feminism was simply to have like the same right to vote the same right to do basic functions
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in society but not to kill our own children but you've already acknowledged that women do have
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all those equalities except the right to life but how is that a feminist position because it's
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equality amongst people we don't have equality amongst people right now but but women women are
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capable of aborting their sons their unborn sons and daughters so i feel or like legally allowed to
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what do you mean like i guess you're capable anywhere but no but you said you're you're specifically
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talking about abortion about aborting uh unborn females females i specify that for the sake of the
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argument that we're fighting for women's rights to choose but i'm saying women before they're born
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don't even have the right to life not but why including men women women will abort but here but
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i think it should be men and women it's equality i'm just confused why you seem to over that like
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are i'm not just the value no the value is the same between men and women i understand i think i
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understand what you're getting that i'm only specifying it for the sake of the argument that
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you're a feminist yes i mean it's also it's also true that the original feminists were pro-life
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and they fought against abortion and i stand for original feminism not the corrupt fake feminism of
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today but if you're anti you're uh it would i would categorize your you more as a i mean abortion
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doesn't even strike me as like an egalitarian or feminist or like position really does because if
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you actually look at the abortion industry it is highly patriarchal most men actually profit more
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and gain more from the abortion industry than women do abortion hurts women and it kills people
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and men profit off of it the entire pro-abortion movement was started by men and we claim that it's
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some kind of like women's right when in reality it was started by men roe v wade was decided by men
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and the entire thing is so you think the abortion is men's fault it's not fault absolutely not wait
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it's but it's run by it predominantly it is run by men is that because most industries are run by men
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though sorry is that because most industries are predominantly run by men you could argue that
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that's that's a correlation but my point is specifically about abortion being claimed as a
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like feminist movement that like modern feminists are for abortion like that's just a fact
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but if you actually look at the abortion industry it's not run by women
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maybe check think for the 20 memberships wait so hold on you say you say you said abortion is a tool
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of the patriarchy yes okay well it can be in many ways but you say abortion was i i don't have a
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thorough history of abortion but uh you're saying it's something that men wanted
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i'm gonna have to look into that one if you look at i actually agree with her like i don't remember
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the exact facts but i remember learning about this as well it was mostly men behind the scenes pushing
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the abortion movement are you saying that like it's a depopulationist movement is that what you're
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getting at it's like more of a eugenics movement and that there are men who are atop of that spear
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the founder of plant parenthood margaret singer was a genesis she was a racist her entire goal as she
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was quoted to say is to exterminate the like undesirables um and so that was and she worked
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alongside nathan bernard nathanson and he was the one who founded neral for choice america and so it's
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literally a industry run by men if you look at i mean you mentioned how is it how is it an abortion
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is an industry run by men how so um well you look at the reason why women get abortions and a lot of
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times it's because they don't have support um to to continue their pregnancy and they think that
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they're all alone in it and oftentimes men say oh you know i believe in a woman's right to choose
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and therefore they take a back seat to their their own child and so women feel the need to go and seek
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abortions because of that wait and so oftentimes men are using abortion as a tool to escape
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responsibility isn't it i mean i would like to see the statistics on this but
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isn't it the case that like it's about 50 50 pro-life pro-choice between for both men and women
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statistics have proven that usually it's about 50 50 throughout throughout the time since roe v wade
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but that doesn't necessarily change the fact that the industry itself i'm not talking about just
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general people what industry industry of abortion and how is it so you say that's controlled by men
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it's very very predominantly run by men for so who who's the primary argument so who who uh what
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institution or system uh is having uh what's it called uh what's the term when you uh provide
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an abortion what what's the is it planned parenthood the international planned parenthood federation yes
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okay they're all over the entire world is that so you're saying that's primary i mean i don't know
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what the like the the uh c-suite looks like for planned parenthood but i mean it occurs to me
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that's that's probably a very female heavy organization it's a multi-billion dollar non-profit
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and it was founded by the entire movement of the pro pro pro-choice movement early around the time
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of roe v wade and it was founded by men so you're saying because the founders are men that's why it's
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you can take the feminist position it's not just the foundation of like neral being founded by men
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it's the idea that in our current society if you look at like sex trafficking for example the amount
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the amount of predators who go into planned parenthoods with their like 14 year old victim
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and they've gotten them pregnant they go in there and there are in many places no need to have any kind
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of like determination if the person they're with is their parent there's no parental consent or
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notification and so men are going in predators of these children and having getting them abortions
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to hide the abuse that they're giving so yeah i mean wait do you think wait so you're saying
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do you think that's the case for most abortions it's not most but it happens the fact that it
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happens should be acknowledged no but you're you're using an exceptional scenario to that's one example of
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of the fact that it's it's a very patriarchal concept
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it's also the idea that the modern feminism your logic is not sound on that but okay the modern
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feminism believes that in order to be equal to men we have to have the right to kill our own children
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and that is simply not true okay so you're not a modern feminist then correct but you're i'm looking
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at planned parenthood on here and it it says that it was founded by margaret singer yes a woman and look
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up nara in some ways has even more influence i see the predecessor was the american birth control
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league and i'll look at that which was nathanson also founded by margaret margaret sanger i'm not
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became pro-life afterwards and he showed a video of what an abortion is and he changed millions of
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people's views this is start this is getting into apex fallacy territory a little bit or wait uh is it
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you're you're looking at the behavior of one singular individual and sort of uh i mean what's
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that organization called neral yeah so your your argument is is because there is one man who was
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involved in it's not my argument you're saying that it's it's dominated by it's a it's something
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that's dominated by men and men sort of profit from it but wouldn't you wouldn't you also say that
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that's the case with most industries and generally when there's money being made and when it's a big
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industrial because abortion is basically an industrial complex wouldn't you say that for
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for the most part men are going to dominate these industries um i think it depends on the industry
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i can definitely we can have a conversation about the beauty industry and have a whole conversation
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about that too and i would sure but i mean the vast majority of industries will be run by men right
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it's used to control the idea of like what women how women see themselves and i think this is kind of
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no different in a sense but my point is that it's the concept of women have been convinced to believe
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that in order to be equal to men they have to kill their own children and who is purporting this idea
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but like if you look at the the marches that happen the vast majority of the people who are
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protesting for abortion and the vast majority of people who are in favor of abortion and will die
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on that hill are women so you can look at the very top and you can say there's the problem or you can
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look at everybody else i mean all the protests statistically more women are pro-choice yeah all
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the protests i've ever been to either the pro-abortion side were paid for to be there and they're just
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random people who didn't actually care or it was both men and women do you think it's a very
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the men were telling me no uterus no opinion to my face and i was like so you think that more men
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are protesting for abortion than women i don't think that that's an accurate like example of
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whether or not abortion as a whole and whether i show up to a protest and somebody's there and he
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happens to be a man so if you look at like a big protest with say 10 000 people all wearing their
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wearing their pussy hats you don't think that that's a good a good representation of who
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is i don't think that's a good example because if you go to a beauty event and let's say hypothetically
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the beauty industry is run by men you think a bunch of men are going to show up it's a behind the scenes
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concept that's why i mentioned it sounds like a conspiracy theory it's the reason why i mentioned
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the abusers coming into planned parenthood and bringing these young girls who are victims of
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their crimes and hiding that that's that crime why is sex trafficking like modern day slavery yeah i'd
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say sex trafficking is probably a different issue though to the issue of like why why being anti-abortion
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is necessarily a feminist issue it's connected though because you can hide abuse if you have
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abortion yeah i would say that's that's an aspect of it that is obviously absolutely horrible and
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yeah i would agree with you there however your your position though is that you're a feminist
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because of this abortion industry that is supposedly patriarchal i'm not just a feminist because of
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that the primary primary reason why i'm a feminist besides the fact that i grew with early
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feminism and my right to vote the right to be here right now and have my own like non-profit
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is because it is also because i'm a feminist because we should stand for equal rights for all
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people and women don't have the right to life women don't have the right to life wait but
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men don't have the right to life either i just said that i just said but how is it a feminist
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men don't have the right to life equality would be so it occurs genders having the right to life
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position is you care more about uh female fetuses than male fetuses so then you're but then you're
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not it's not a feminist position it's a pro-life you're pro-life you don't understand you don't
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understand the point i'm making no because you're not either you're not articulate articulating it
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very well or it's just equality equal equality among both sexes would be both being having the
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right to life so are you arguing that that women have less of a right to life than men i'm arguing
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that women have more rights than men right now which is not feminist and i'm a feminist because i
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don't think women should have more rights than men they shouldn't have the right to kill other
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people it's it's really straightforward actually no but then that oh so you want to walk back
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i think i sort of see what you say you're an original you you call yourself like an original
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sort of first wave feminist if you will and you you don't necessarily think that women don't have
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the rights like you would agree that they achieve their means their first their first yeah i think
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i see what you're saying yeah i believe we're literally people people yeah yeah but i think that
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just the abortion thing is um not necessarily a feminist vision this is a pro-life position because you
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believe in pro-life for both i think i tell me correct me if i'm wrong here okay so you think
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that women when it comes to abortion they have a right that men don't have correct which is not
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equality therefore you want to walk back women's abortion rights to create equality aka true while
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true equality and that would be a feminist position yes but you also have to mention the fact
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that i believe both people should have equal right to life which is the fundamental purpose of not
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allowing women to kill people per law position yeah okay all right uh let's define our terms here
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a little bit um you mentioned patriarchy what is the patriarchy i say this is the patriarchy in the
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sense that abortion is an industry that has been predominantly run by men um what evidence do you
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have for that i mean you can look at the statistics on if you go to trafficking predators on the people
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who founded the movements and on the people who are on the court on roe v wood that's what i mean
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when i say that it's not a conspiracy it's a fact but okay you say that it's an industry that is run by
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men but if you walk into uh i mean can we find the topic can you find the c-suite for planned
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parenthood who are the executives i want i want to know the board i want to know the executives for
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planned parenthood industry not the board of planned parenthood what industry the industry
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of abortion which and would you are would you agree with me that planned parenthood is like
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probably the number one yes i was the one who said that but that doesn't mean that the board
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necessarily reflects the fact that the industry of abortion uses has men using women and leaving
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responsibility for their child and using abortion as a tool for their own gain that's what i'm talking
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about by patriarchy okay do you think that women use it as a tool for their own gain absolutely so
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why is it patriarchal it's it's primarily patriarchal in the sense that a lot of women have become victims
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to the idea that they they don't actually understand what they're doing with abortion
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and so a lot of times you think that the the men do understand the women don't uh wait no but a lot
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of times men don't care to find out just like women don't and they use it anyway so you're saying
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that there's not a moral there's no moral equivalence there the men are worse in this
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situation than the women because then a feminist position would be to try and like
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grid one motorsports donated one hundred dollars patriarchy supports and values women more men are
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pro-life than women accuracy matters feminism in all forms has failed you how can the patriarchy
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help you today okay we'll we'll put a pause on this conversation uh so wait what are you upset
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at the conversation or what's up no i just think it's like i don't know kind of like redundant i
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feel like we're kind of just talking about the same thing over and over which is like fine but it's
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like you need to speak into the mic please can you scoot into the table a little bit
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like i mean i don't agree with what's being said but it's not like it's making me upset it's just like
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i don't know how to say it and like not a rude way it's like we're sitting here talking about the
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same thing for like hours do you have like a response to it do you have no stop stop don't
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try to engage her okay in the conversation which she's about to leave for okay so i'll get through
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your notes here you you're a liberal correct yeah you do you consider yourself a feminist yeah okay
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uh did you say how many total scenes you've done for i don't have like an approximate number okay
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but okay i believe on your instagram you describe yourself as a cult leader is that correct
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so that's like a joke i guess because i have like a darker aesthetic but i think i would be like a really
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good cult leader you think so yeah i think i like can be captivating enough to get people to listen to
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me um i mean you did a pretty poor job arguing the case for communism yeah i was like under pressure
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too which i felt like you know what i mean yeah cult leader should be able to be cool under pressure
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and be able to we're working you should have if you're a cult leader you should have been able to
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convince me to communism but uh you also say this is on your instagram right that you're a soul
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leader is that correct no it's on my twitter oh twitter excuse me what is a soul leader what does
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that mean i suck really good ween like dick can i say that excuse me uh okay um that's not what i
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is that what you mean by soul leader okay that's uh that's fucking disgusting oh okay uh you're you're
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an x-rated philanthropist also on your twitter we talked a bit about your charitable givings although
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you were unable to name the charities to which you uh donate to have you been able to come up with a
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or you you paid you gave your homie like 100 bucks to cover some fucking plan b pills is that
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is that your philanthropy no okay that's all of that is like kind of like a joke like my twitter bio
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because they're like i don't know it goes with my aesthetic but like philanthropist is kind of like
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a joke that a lot of like adult industry people say that's their job is their philanthropist it's like
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oh oh you're joking okay you're being facetious okay into that what do you mean what's leaning into
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what it's like um because you yeah because it's like produce nude content is that yeah you're doing
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a service to the people of the world with your what did you say dick sucking or whatever what was it
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yeah okay okay um so i did take a look at your your twitter um or one question do you want to get
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married one day yeah do you want to have kids yeah okay uh okay uh look
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i looked at your twitter yeah i gotta be honest the shit that's on there
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i saw you eating a dude's ass yeah i gotta be listen you're an attractive girl you're a little
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perhaps a little misguided on the whole communism thing but hey you know listen you're you're 20
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you'll grow out of it you know you'll grow out of it right jake here will fix you um you good jake okay
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uh if you show the video if you were to show your twitter feed to your dating prospects
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that's gonna be a fucking no-go for like 90 of dudes dating wise any thoughts on that i don't
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really give a fuck i guess like i mean if i gave like a shit about other people's opinions i probably
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wouldn't do what i do fair fair but do you do you do you agree with me in the sense that
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like probably 90 of dudes are gonna check out from pursuing you based off of yeah but i have
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no issue dating i mean okay and i haven't ran into any issues yet so okay like i'm cool okay uh we do
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have a photo nick i pulled up i think i pulled up a photo she's posing this is the one we can show you
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oh my god i thought it was gonna be this is we can't this is the one we can should nick did i pull
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it up i'm scared it's really not that bad but if you go to her twitter and look okay oh my god
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she so this is yeah that's her so this is the man whose ass i saw you eating yeah jesus i can't
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believe i'm even saying that i apologize to our uh earmuffs for the fucking you know the the youth
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out there it's where your g-spot is you know i'm doing him a service word um hunter donated one
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hundred dollars this is dumb no competition at tiny da for no f is way better than her twitter okay
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a dude see like i couldn't show the the videos the photos of you with him but the ones with him
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that was for a better site so 90 you can't like bro you've i feel like you've closed the door
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on 90 of dudes that's totally cool okay all right that's fine uh you said after high school before you
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started mainstream porn you ended up sleeping with a science teacher that you had in high school
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yeah i did i used to be i talked about in my first like porn interview too
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okay somewhere on the internet now this was after high school right you weren't yeah okay i mean
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still not i would not not uh co-signing that but uh nick uh so okay how did oh how did you guys meet
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oh my god okay i'm i was friends with like his daughter but then i ended up having him like in
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science class and then he was like flirting with me but i was like in science class i'm not saying
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anything no but when i when i say how did you guys when i say you got how did you guys meet i mean
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like how did you meet again because you said you met again after high school like i live in like or
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like i came from like a really small ass fucking town so like everybody like spoke to each other
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everybody knew everybody's business so like it wasn't really hard okay and it just kind of happened
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like i don't know well but like okay how long after high school did you guys
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this is a year after two years after well you're 20 right so this is pretty recent is this your
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current boyfriend you said you've been in a relationship for three months no what kind of
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science chemistry no it was biology but okay um biological i'm trying to think
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yeah it was like i had like my first boyfriend ever and then we broke up kind of like a year
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after we started yeah so it was like probably like a year ago like year and a half change the split
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um you met him a year and a half ago but okay like yeah like we hooked up like did you meet him on a
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dating app how did you connect after high school hunter donated 100 anyone else see brian's tent under
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the desk he's really liking this conversation yeah thank you hunter appreciate it uh come here
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everybody sees everybody like you run into somebody at the fucking walmart okay but so it's whatever
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you know was it like a month after graduation no i had a i had like a relationship like my last
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little bit okay so you graduate high school into college and then once me uh my first boyfriend broke
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up like then i went back to my little hometown and i just kind of okay so you graduated high school
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how long after graduating high school did you have sex with your high school it was like a year and a
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half like okay how did you meet him again like i ran into him again where on a dating app no no like
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it was literally like food city or something like and then we like chatted whatever and then we started
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like messaging online like through like social media he messaged you or you messaged him he messaged me
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okay and it was like was it a one-time thing or you guys were it was like a few-time thing a few-time
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thing is he married yes he has a daughter how old was he wait i don't know exactly how old he is
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40s 50s yeah around about okay wait this is too personal you said he was flirting with you don't
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have to answer it you said he was flirting with you while you were a student do you i cannot answer
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that is a yikes okay uh so do you not feel like guilty about that sleeping with a married man
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okay why not a lot of it's not a lot of damage tonight okay all right uh you said the divorce
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rate you said divorce rates wouldn't be so high in america if more people experimented and found
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out what they actually liked what do you mean yeah like i feel like most people aren't monogamous
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that's not to say there aren't monogamous people but i feel like most people probably are like
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interested in seeing more more than one person at once so i feel like i don't know if more people
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i guess were poly like they had like multiple like suitors okay that there probably wouldn't be like
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such a high divorce rate like you have a wife and like a girlfriend and it was like spoken about
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and obviously not something that was like behind closed doors or like shady or anything you know what
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i mean it was like accepted so you're you do you you said you're in a relationship right now is it
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poly is it open um outside my work no it's monogamous it's monogamous yeah okay does your boyfriend you
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said you this guy you've been seeing it's been three months correct but you shoot porn scenes with
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other men yeah he doesn't your boyfriend doesn't have any issues with it no no issues no and i mean if
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he did at some point in the future i mean we could talk about opening our relationship up but it's not
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what if he wanted you to stop then we could talk about that privately okay i question any man that's
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okay with his girlfriend having sexual intercourse with other men for any reason okay that's just like
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i i don't know is he a cuck no i'm not saying that to be insulting but like it apollo shanada
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donated 100 hey apollo shanada you changed your name thank you but pls bring this show on the road
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as always madison is the only nine in the room quite a divided room tonight on the panel
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yes very divided apollo shanada thank you man good to see you in the chat you changed your name though
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i thought it was shanada not show shanada appreciate it man uh wait okay so and that's
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oh we got oh hunter donated 100 this fucking gusting i would rather eat my own shit i mean no
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one's stopping you from doing that all right hunter uh okay wait so uh yeah i mean i feel like it meets
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the definition of being a cuck if you are cool with your girlfriend having sex with other men
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right i think no it's like a job what you know i mean it's like any other job i don't know if it's
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any like any other job but you're still having sex yeah yeah you're still having sex with other men
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so even though it's like but i mean cool but like he's not a cuck do you do any scenes where like
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you get i mean earmuffs for the for the virgins over earmuffs guys earmuffs for the for the three
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virgin women over here uh do you do like scenes where other where men come inside of you yep
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and then do you go home and have sex with there's a shower in between there
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but it's like still there that's that's shit it can take a couple days to uh you know you douche
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it out like what but it's like still there like the remnants like they're still swimming in there
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they're they are they're swimming around wait that's cool question question
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have you shot a scene with a guy and then that same day had sex with your boyfriend
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and he's okay with that i got hold up wait with them swimming in you or without them swimming in
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you that's an asteroid boys either we send the asteroid for that one oh my god wow asteroid sent um
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has there ever been a time where you like the sex from a scene was so intense that maybe
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you're in a bit of pain and you didn't want to have sex with your boyfriend because of the sex
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that you had at your job yeah okay that deserves a funny miss or a missile a nuclear missile oh there's
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the nuke okay sorry hold on the the nuke is currently going off we have nuked the whatever podcast what's
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your question um so you said you filmed a scene where you have had a man let it out within
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you yeah you go home to your man and he does it again is there this may come across really
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offensive and i i apologize is he bisexual or gay by any like not gay but like maybe bisexual at all
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does he go down on you your boyfriend after that okay he's bisexual no he's not he's gotta be there's
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no way but like that's not the as a man as a man putting your face down there and having another
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man's come swim around and go all over the place in between your teeth and the tongue like that's
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it's not like flowing out of my vagina like but it's there and it's in his mouth it's just not how it
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works there's residue there's residue it's uh sick okay all right like there's nothing wrong with
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being gay i'm just saying like that he's not there's nothing wrong i mean i mean then you
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would be also bisexual because you let your man cheat on you like then the same thing like do you
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identify she might be bi you know what i i think she's bi i guess you may have a point i mean bro
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there's i there's videos of you making out with chicks so you're bi but i mean like you know i mean
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it's yeah maybe but i mean i i think that's i think that's a little gay that's just i mean you
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can feel that way she feels that way all right um oh look at that we got a problem oh he fixed his
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name 100 dollars i'd cow this dumb donation system accepted my typo but whatever thank you ryan if
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you're running out of girls there in the lost lands come to austin sixth street girl fights and
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girls are pretty real dude it'd be dope to uh go to texas to uh do a couple episodes in texas the
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thing is i'd like i need we have such a robust studio set up here it's not really mobile i have a spot
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there you could use appreciate it yo grid one motorsports gotta be honest the one question a man
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never wants another man to be able to ask is how does my blank taste may christ have mercy on your
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soul because i cannot find any abdul you know what to do get the rocks yeah abdul yeah get the rock get
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the rocks okay um do you like accept cheating in your relationship like are you okay with it
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do you think that i mean if we were to get to a point where he would have an issue with me shooting
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then maybe we could open our relationship up but like cheating is another thing but do you not
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consider what you're doing cheating on him no neither does he which is fine what do you define
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as cheating like he knew before we got into a relationship what i did i was very transparent
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with that no i'm asking like what do you consider cheating in a relationship if like he were to i
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don't know if it's cheating behind my back no in her defense i'm not sure if it's cheating is he a
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cuck well you're having no how many times i have to answer that he's not a cuck he's not gay i'm not
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cheating on him he doesn't feel like i'm cheating on i don't think it's cheating but it's like it's
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a major l for him to accept the the circumstances um wait so hold on would you be upset if he wanted
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to start an only fans and start fucking other women no okay you wouldn't mind okay we've had
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the girl on the show she does porn but she was like no my my man could not do what i do basically
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um okay so what else we have uh you think the divorce rates wouldn't be so high if
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yeah we talked about that you're kind of in favor of polyamory um i feel like you can no
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pigeonhole men and women into fitting into a certain box and also don't agree that body count matters i
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think we talked about the whole body count yeah that kind of goes with the pigeonholing thing like
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trying to make every woman like fit into this one box of like what would be like a high value woman
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or like this purity shit like i just don't agree with it that's all don't agree with what
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like purity culture whatever i mean it's not like i care about it like live your truth you know
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what i mean but like i just don't agree with it okay
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do you think it benefits you to do what you do like it's better than if you didn't do it yeah why
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i have more disposable income i have more freedom i have a lot like i can like own things at a very
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young age also it's like i feel like purity culture also really benefits men that's not to
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say what i do doesn't in a way but like i feel like the whole surrounding thing it puts like this
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weighing like pressure on women and like trying to like value them by something where it's like
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being promiscuous like it's more on my accord do you think that if you found a man who valued it
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for himself as well it wouldn't be as hypocritical because you you're saying it's like hypocritical
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right for a man to be like oh women's values based on like whether they've had they've been
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i mean they can live that like a man or a woman sit your blank back down daff and bark
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okay so primarily it's for money though that's what you're saying like you you like being able
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to buy things and have like the freedom to buy things yeah and i also like the flexibility of
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my schedule like i also like being able to like express myself like i like being sexual and like also
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oh hold on let me apollo shinoda donated one hundred dollars don't care how many times she
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says it blondie batman eyeliner girl's boyfriend is a beta cuck absolutely sickening okay do you have
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a response to apollo shinoda i i don't really care like i don't know uh okay we have jrod coming in
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here in just a sec here guys uh apollo shinoda thank you very much for your patronage guys guys
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twitch.tv slash whatever drops the follow drops the prime time uh whatever clips oh there's jrod
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hold on bring it back uh man woman cheat different reasons biology sociology sure male cheaters
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aren't men but weak selfish boys sexually obese do you mean up to or narcissist wreck you but believe
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they love you moment of weakness skip jim what's that thing from like the office what who's the
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chubby guy on the office kevin kevin he's like why say many word when few words do trick or something
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like that yeah thank you jrod appreciate it um guys twitch.tv slash whatever drops the follow
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just dogpiling you basically how's that been going for you yeah i don't i don't know i don't care i do
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want to at least give you credit i feel like you know you came in with some hot takes yeah yes you said
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some dissenting opinions so i give you credit for uh for um what's called you know being a good sport
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being a good sport yeah it's you know normally i try to stack the panels where it's more like
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people who disagree with me well there's people who disagree with me here but uh good for you for
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being willing to have a debate and subjecting yourself to jay butler okay i don't know if he's still
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watching but uh okay let's see are there any more notes with you venus vixen i feel like i had
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something but uh uh trying to see uh okay you should stay for the whole show though that'd be very rude
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if you were to leave are you sad are you satisfied with the attention you've received i've given you
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like 20 minutes of undivided attention i know it's hard i know tiktok has melted not your brain in
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specific but you know the brains of generation z and it's difficult to you know brain rot you know
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let's get her an energy drink do you want an energy drink i think that would definitely help you like
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an energy drink let's get her an energy drink what do we got some applesauce get her a fucking
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applesauce get her an applesauce bender the offender donated 100 she wants an applesauce too
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she keeps you get an applesauce you get an applesauce just like the southern border right now
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we got ricola would you like a ricola what is that it's you know it's like a cough drop
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i'm gonna have to pass on the cough you're passing on the cough drop okay
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keeps her lungs on just like the southern border right now i'll speed bender the offender what the
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here's a dating related question would you date an illegal immigrant
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no wouldn't you be taking them well yeah taking them what
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isn't it like you're like if you kill someone and then you're running from the police and then you go
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stay at another person's house what is the word isn't there a word aiding in the bedding
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maybe wouldn't it be something along those lines like if you're dating another word for it i know
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what you're like aiding like what's asylum or like you're an accessory to accessory yeah to
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immigration there's another word there's another word though wait what's the other word so aiding
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in the bedding accessory accomplice accomplice maybe to illegal immigrants uh accessory accomplice
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complicit harboring a fugitive yeah all of those things right there no i wouldn't uh going around
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the table would you date an illegal immigrant no no no sure okay no yeah now you know what i think
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i'm in favor of um illegal immigration for women between the ages of 18 and 29 preferably pole vaulters
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uh gymnasts preferably from asian and eastern european countries um i'm in favor you know it's
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unfortunate we don't have more of that type of illegal immigrant that's a fair point you've got
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a lot of immigrants around a lot of different places around the world from ukraine and russia
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at the moment go to thailand you can see many of them oh also israel too i want to talk about um
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and maybe maybe another time but uh what the yeah really what is are we losing our country
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i don't know i think so yes i think yes we need borders don't we i can't just oh build the wall i
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want to go i want to go to move i'll never be able to i can't become japanese i don't think i can't go
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to japan oh huh what if i want to move to japan i can't just arrive and just stay there i'll get
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deported yeah never go to the country has borders what if i want to i can't just become japanese
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what if i want to go i want to move to norway so i can benefit from their robust social security
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i can't donated 100 dollars deaf barking good girl where is the leash lull two panels in a row
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with animal girls my leash and collar at home i'm sorry i left them and i i don't know i feel like
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this is kind of a conservative panel so i don't know if it but it's to me it occurs like if you
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it's interesting like if we any of us were to go to some other country and we overstayed our visa or
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whatever we would be deported and nobody would nobody in that country would object to our deportation
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because we overstayed our our visa or that we even crossed the border legally but for some reason when
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it comes to the united states somehow it's wrong to insist that people immigrate here legally or that
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we have a strong border yeah it's pretty what's going on are we losing our country yes pretty fast
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yeah i'm scared for the future i'm scared for the future might have to annex canada thank you
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i think we're gonna annex we're gonna um i'm from canada and i'm on board with that yeah they need
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new leadership hey yeah i want to oh yeah anyways i think everyone canada hates dustin trudeau yeah
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back to dating okay who do we have here we have uh oh we got daphne so daphne in your pre-show
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notes here you said that you're conservative correct yes and you are traditional i'd consider
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that i have myself that i have a traditional mindset i think yes okay you do only fans correct
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yes i do what kind of content do you do on only fans i do solo content have you done any boy girl
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content okay i suppose that helps your case a little bit but uh before okay you have a couple
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oh you sit you consider yourself extremely traditional i mean i think i would yes i think
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all the things that i believe in that my values are pretty traditional i know that i do only fans
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and that is not traditional but i feel like that's the one thing that i do that is bad what do you think
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is like the essence of a traditional conservative woman well i'm from the south so i grew up in a
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traditional family um manners i think i know my role as a woman a traditional role as a woman
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and i have expectations for a man to have a traditional role as a man in a relationship
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so cooking cleaning being rather feminine in your temperament you'd say i would say i'm very
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feminine i try and control you know that and uh very submissive however do you think that uh
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the um being on only fans and dressing as a cat and wolfing for people is an automatic disqualify
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do you think that that is something that makes you automatically not conservative anymore
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um i think it's definitely weird i think it is not traditional but i'm not perfect and i don't
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think anyone is perfect and do you think it's a rather sort of um it's a rather dominant aspect of
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who you are hunter donated 100 you can be traditional and not be perfect i am a child of christ or a christian
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i am not perfect that doesn't exclude me from being christian they aren't mutually exclusive
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by any means i mean if the if the book says don't do x and you do x i mean yeah you can you can be
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forgiven people can repent and everything but it just kind of depends if you continue to do it
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yeah even though you know that it's not even though you know that it's wrong yeah that is that
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is pretty tricky um wait nick can you pull up her instagram for me please oh he has it ready
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uh go to the reels just switch over to the reels they're pretty weird uh scroll down
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okay scroll up a bit yeah it's a little uh go to her tagged too go over to her tag tell me pull it
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back up when you're at her tagged traditional by the way okay scroll down scroll down scroll down
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scroll down uh that's you making out with women that's you making out with multiple women yes uh
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this is not exactly the epitome of traditional but you claim to be extremely traditional how do you
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reconcile having your the photos you've taken the videos you've taken doing only fans producing
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pornographic content uh making out with women how do you reconcile being extremely traditional
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um i wouldn't necessarily make an excuse for it obviously that is not traditional at all
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um i wouldn't consider it a mistake but i would consider it something that i have learned to not do i was kind
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of confused at the time and i was having fun i know it sounds like a bs excuse but i think with
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trial and error and you know the best lessons are always learned the hard way and i think that i am
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growing as a person every day i pray i try and get closer to the lord and i think that yes i have made
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mistakes in the past yes it's i'm not no i'm not pandering i'm trying to answer your question to the
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best of my ability so i apologize if but you say you're trying to do better right but i mean i still
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see those so one component of traditionalism is modesty but i mean you're not no go up nick i mean
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the the i mean those reels i mean it's like yeah you you have a photo with your legs up in the i don't
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even think can we even we we showed it earlier like you there's a photo it's like point looking right
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it doesn't compute i understand that i and they're still up online yeah a problem shenoda donated 100
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dollars question for the of panel members would you retain a sugar daddy who told you he was anti-american
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and was a financial supporter of groups that actually want to destroy your profession
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what i don't want a sugar daddy would you retain a sugar daddy i mean what about you
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if i want a sugar daddy oh other of girls so like who's anti-american you might actually yeah like
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that oh are you anti-american that's really broad like i don't know what you mean like america
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are you anti-american i mean if i was taking his money i'd be happy to take anybody's money but
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are you anti-american potentially i could be i don't know we need to i'm filling it out
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we're gonna we're gonna deport you to we're gonna rob to cuba
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is venezuela communist or is it socialist it's socialist yeah i don't know um okay good times uh
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so okay how do you reconcile your claims of being extremely traditional and then you said
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something about jesus christ too it's not it's not that you're just traditional you're also
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uh christian i believe in jesus christ i follow jesus not necessarily a religion okay um hold on what does
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that mean wait hold on what i mean i actually so you're an atheist for no jesus is that a thing
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i think that's a thing no i am not an atheist who is john gault donated 100 can we go around the
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room and ask if they will vote for trump or biden and briefly explain why
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actually fuck it let's just do it now uh while it's okay trump or biden why trump and why yeah
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uh everything was better when he was in office biden is an incompetent idiot
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that's beautiful what about you um neither neither you're more of a kanye gal no vote for kanye okay
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what about you i think votes are personal but i wouldn't vote for biden okay what about you can i pass
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i feel like deeply afraid of this question do it do it i don't know i don't know
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do it no shia no do it shia stop it don't dreams
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yesterday you said tomorrow so just do it make your dreams untrue
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nickelodeon donated 100 dollars thank you surprise surprise the communist wants to take everyone else's
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money and keep it all for themselves oh the irony i'm not taking anyone's money like i'm not pulling
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it out of their pocket they're putting it in my fucking hands capitalism is beautiful like that
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so is it biden just say it's biden that's okay no one's gonna hate you uh i really i don't
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that's it's not for you guys it's more about about like everyone else in life who's i feel like
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people get psycho over this if you don't want to answer that's totally fine what about you
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neither neither correct but hold on but okay all right neither of them are pro-life and i only
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vote for anti-abortion i thought trump was he's not he's not well he might not be uh he's not like
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staunch pro-life he sort of like tries to tries to appease both sides yeah yeah which means you're
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not pro-life you either believe it's killing a person or you don't there's no such thing as
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middle ground well it's probably for him it's probably like since he's republican it would be
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expedient for him to be pro-life so if if it was politically expedient for him to further
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uh pro-life uh positions or uh the pro-life uh causes then he's probably better for you than you
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would think that but he literally said to the republicans who voted to make abortion illegal
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earlier that they were being dumb for doing that so he's not pro-life did you see that recently yeah
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pretty recently he might he might well he's the kind of guy though who kind of does things like
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brian said to be politically expedient though yeah and when it comes to life and death you can't be
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like wishy-washy about that so okay it's gonna be hard though to find someone because like first of
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all like they probably won't get elected because that much of a contentious issue if they're really
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super duper like pro-life so maybe they'd want to just sort of say they're not and then sneak it in
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after well i think for the republicans it's you can be pro-life yeah none of them do that much for
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it though okay what about you trump yeah heavy on trump you work at rebel news you said yeah i do
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avi you many uh i mean i haven't met him in person but yeah he works there with me have you met him
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because you're from australia no no but he's another aussie okay yes he's another great guy going
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you know what i mean like i pulled up the photos you're like okay big part of being traditional is
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modesty right so you're dressing provocatively wearing little clothing you've got your ass out
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on instagram the internet you're doing porn it's not traditional also on your twitter which i can't
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pull up you're talking about coming and squirt earmuffs we can hear it guys gosh uh there's
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licking and or filleting a dildo what nothing about that is traditional that is true yeah um and
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these are recent posts they're not like from two years ago go look at her twitter if you don't believe
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me uh yeah there's i mean i get that that's not traditional i i wish it's like a smack in the face
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yeah i wish traditionalism it's a total affront it's like a buffet you want the buffet of traditionalism
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i think that i i know that it's wrong i think my views on it i have traditional opinions i know that
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what i'm doing is wrong and not traditional but i i know that it's wrong and i still do it i'm not
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sure exactly why but i do know that it is not right and it is wrong but i think that the way that i
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try and live my life and especially in dating i think that i try and be as traditional as i can i
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mean it's what i'm used to you're okay but you're talking about like your behavior and dating is
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traditional i would think so but like okay i think one thing like a traditional man would want
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in a traditional woman woman is there not being photos of her sucking on dildos on twitter
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you know i mean am i wrong no you're not wrong at all no you're not wrong um i know that because of
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what i've done i might not find that exact traditional man that i'm looking for and that's
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not what i'm expecting but just don't claim the traditional just say you're a modern woman
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i'm not a modern woman you're a modern woman that's what there's there you're a modern woman
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look i'm not that's fine don't steal don't co-op you know donated 100 props to daphne it's correctly
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spelled daphne btw for her trump vote as well as the others who were at minimum voting against 80
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candidates but daphne jesus isn't liking what you're doing i know and i'm sorry lord i will
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allow you to claim to claim your traditional title if on the show right now you take your phone
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and you delete your only fans and you scrub your twitter of your degenerate dildo sucking sorry guys
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i'm putting your muffs on will you like it trolling so you are are you saying that if i delete my only
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fans i'll prove to you that i'm a traditional woman as the arbiter as the patriarchy as the
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representative of the patriarchy as the arbiter of traditionalism yes that's what you got to do and
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you got to prove it to me i think that the most important thing is proving it to myself i mean it's
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what i believe you know i believe that i'm traditional even though i do have a little
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craziness to me no no not just a little craziness my dear my dear modesty and traditionalism go hand
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in hand there there's photos and videos of you i don't know what you do on your only fans but
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just what's publicly available on your twitter
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that shit ain't traditional son it ain't traditional you think that jesus wants better
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for you go and sin no more like don't you want it better even if you think you're never going to
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get a good guy because of what you've done when you want to improve just for yourself if you know
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what you're doing is wrong like what's holding you back i mean i'm not necessarily looking for
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a relationship right now i don't think that that's you know i'm not going to change my ways so
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that i could find a better man i'm happy right now you know i'm the happiest that i've ever
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been and how are you happy if you know what everything you're doing is morally wrong like
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your entire job not everything not everything but didn't you say you had a relationship with
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jesus christ i do how is that not getting in the way with your relationship yeah you're trolling
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you're not being serious you have to be trolling when you mention cooking and cleaning as being
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traditional as a woman it is traditional cooking but not only fans that's such a strange
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specification i know that it's not true i know that that is not traditional but you can be an
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actual traditional woman and not cook and clean but what you're doing is not being a
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traditional woman so in the scale of in the grand scale of things you know i mean yeah i mean you
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have a point i'm not disagreeing with you i know that it's not traditional i'm not trying to argue
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that we'll come back to this i need to get a couple chats in because they're about to drop off my thing
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we have fowley here good evening all kind of haram but i wonder who would win oh my in a miss
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soul eater or miss gluck gluck excuse me 9 000 from a month or two ago you remember her her name being lana
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haram thank you fowley appreciate it um maybe you should dm them and you can you can ask okay
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yogi bear thank you for the canadian 50 illegal immigrants vote for weak borders and all the other
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terrible policies that come with that not all are a drain on society but most are look i mean
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america is a great place a lot of people i i question for the conservatives apollo shinoda donated
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one hundred dollars brian check yourself the patriarchy is a red herring construct like all of the
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folk pejoratives they throw around to gaslight the sheep oh i use patriarchy totally uh like uh
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in a in a i yeah ironic sort of memeing sort of way i don't believe that there's a patriarchy i
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believe we live in a gynocentric society and uh the patriarchy is q anon for feminists um
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on the illegal immigration thing uh wait what was i gonna say uh you were gonna turn oh america's great
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oh for the conservative people here would you guys be in favor of like us helping these countries
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where a lot of people immigrate from like helping them like in some way like develop their countries
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so that we didn't they didn't feel the need yep they didn't need cheap energy and they need us not
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to take all of their best people as well all of the brain drain talented people brain drain yeah
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uh you guys in favor of that i would say we help them through our non-profits that exist in the
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united states through the private sector not through the private sector okay because we can
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help people as christians and we can help people or just as good people we can help people but we
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don't have to do it through our government but if let's say if the cost to the maximum american
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taxpayer for one illegal immigrant is a hundred dollars versus if we spent fifty dollars to somehow
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bolster uh these other countries and that reduced one illegal the cost for to reduce one illegal
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immigrant from coming was fifty dollars would it then make sense to financially it would may it occurs
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to me it would make sense to i mean i guess that's like an option i just feel like putting having good
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borders would probably just be a better use and also you need to have yes with those countries as well
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like europe for example when they killed qaddafi he was like stopping all of the people coming
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because they're all coming through libya and he wouldn't let them come and then that sort of just
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opened up the floodgates and it's similar with mexico the floodgates are basically just open
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we're getting a lot of chats here coming in i'm going to try to read them uh we have one i'm going to
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get back to this one expose the narcissist we have jrod daf i saw you smile reading my message
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good girl you have a southern traditional heart with an untamed soul you haven't met a strong
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enough man where you choose to truly submit scared or looking that's okay okay all right we
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have uh jrod my perfect woman equals s stock in the street daphne in the sheets s stock my textbook
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definition of a refined classy educated conservative woman a lady my unicorn does she shoot two-step and
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like sushi okay i have no fucking idea can someone translate that thank you jrod we got hunter here
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there you go there's hunter ask the girls if they have had any wild or extreme dating stories maybe
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even wild s3 soon 4l experiences or stories i bet daphne has some wild ones lol we'll come back to that
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one in just a second hunter i have chill 808 coming in here in just a moment twitch.tv guys twitch.tv
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okay all right uh roman 7 15 20 for the good that i want i do not do but i practice the very evil
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that i do not want from the chill 808 is that the hawaii area code 808 does anyone know what area
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is that yo chill 808 thank you man appreciate it thank you for dropping the uh verse there
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oh we got nickelodeon to daft knee you claim to be some kind of religious name 10 books
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from the bible i thought the other one was leaving i wouldn't say religious i reeled her back in with a
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i bribed her with a energy did we get her applesauce no guys we gotta we gotta be on the applesauce we
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gotta be on it okay um wait so daphne you're i wouldn't say religious i believe any 10 books
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name 10 books go any 10 books any 10 books any 10 books it doesn't have to be what
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um fear and loathing in las vegas by hunter s thompson the bible um um tom sawyer a heart is a
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lonely hunter by alice walker all of the harry potter series all the game of thrones series the
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craft of intelligence by alan w dulles who was a former director of the cia um the sun also rises or
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the sun yeah the sun also rises by earnest hemingway um cocaine politics it's a book about
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how cocaine basically runs everything there's a lot of drug corrupt money in the united states
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um i don't know naming 10 books on the spot is pretty hard i can't remember okay you did good
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you did good i'm proud of you all right we have oh hold on i'll read this one show of hands who think
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jacob and alissa would make a cute couple grid one motorsports can you use some of that stock money
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i'm jake that might be me are you alissa yep we can talk
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good times all right we have base oh okay hold on expose the narcissist to the girl that got cheated on
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so sorry for what you went through you're so strong emotionally healthy and beautiful wasn't
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your fault say stay strong and take care of yourself and your daughter and then he sent another
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one oh thank you he says uh it's coming in just pretty much the same thing to the girl that got
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cheated on you're so strong emotionally healthy and beautiful it wasn't your fault stay strong and
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take care of your okay he sent thank you again twice kind of worded a little differently you know
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what though i do want to say when you when that happened when that happened it should have been
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the fuck out should be done oh my god i spit a little bit okay my bad sorry sorry laptop um
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oh and then hunter hunter was asking ask the girls if they had any wild or extreme dating stories
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maybe even wild uh sexual experiences or stories bet daphne has some wild ones okay daphne why don't you
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start i gotta get up um i have one that i mean obviously is the first thing that come oh gosh
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it's the first thing that comes to mind probably the craziest thing that's ever happened to me um
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and i didn't talk about it for the longest time but i will talk about it here um so basically i was 18
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and i was working in a restaurant um and i met this guy who was a little bit older than me he was like
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around 30 um so we started dating and talking i eventually ended up getting fired from the restaurant
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and went somewhere else he stayed but we moved in and um we really fell in love he was pretty quiet
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um didn't really talk about his emotions too much he was a very kind of um closed off person which i
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can respect but we had a pretty interesting and unique relationship dynamic i was like his dog
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um and he was like my owner so i know this is strange but like i would have a little kennel that
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i would stay in and i would sleep in my kennel and if i would try to get out he'd like spray me with
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water i had a little dog bed that i would keep like under his gaming setup and like sleep under there
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like his little dog um i know that's strange but yeah our relationship i think was i loved it i loved
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being his pet wait so okay no continue and so we we talked for about like a year and a half um and then
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so he brought up that his mom um got married and i hadn't really ever talked to my father um
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and this is kind of the first time that he talked about his family i wasn't ever really bringing up
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whether he should meet my family i felt like i that wasn't my place to bring it up so he brought
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it up um about maybe meeting his family and um he just had just told them about me so he was like
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yeah my mom you know just got you know recently married a couple months ago remarried and um you know
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i think that we should his family lived in la he was like i think we should take a trip up to la
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and um goes to show me a picture of um his mom and she married my dad so he was my stepbrother
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but it was a real story i feel like that's a pander to the audience oh it's real it wasn't
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but it wasn't weird i wasn't grossed out by it i wasn't thinking like oh this is strange or this is sick
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because we had been talking for a while but we broke we ended up breaking up a couple months after
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that but it wasn't because of that um but we didn't really know how to talk about it i didn't
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really bring it up because it kind of made me i guess a little bit uncomfortable i didn't like it
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it's not like it was a kink it's not something that i had you know i think about like oh this is
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hot in a sense um literally don't believe anything i feel like that's cap
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yeah are they still together long about everything uh your mom and his dad your mom and his dad i'm
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not sure we don't talk i feel like you're just trying to create this as some kind of fantasy
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for weird men online and that's like your whole persona also about the dog thing was that like
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your whole entire relationship or did you guys like actually treat each other like humans for a
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certain point in time or is that i mean yeah it wasn't that went on for like that wasn't the whole
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thing uh i mean obviously i walk and talk like a human but um i enjoy acting like a dog it's comforting
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for me like growing up um when my mom got married uh we got a dog his name was sebastian he was a
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rottweiler and i would go out and you know i was very sheltered so i would kind of my dog was like
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my best friend in a sense i would act like a dog he would sleep in my mom's room i would go sleep
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in his kennel i'd get in trouble for it but you know i drink out of a bowl i feel like it's more
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it's not a kink thing like i don't look at it as a kinky thing i know other people may do and that's
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okay this is the second time in two podcasts that i've been confronted with a dog person
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maybe maybe this is something that's more common than i thought it's not a kink and i see how it could
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be do you think that you you said you really enjoy being very submissive to a man you don't
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like making your own decisions so do you think that you were at his feet literally and you were
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sleeping on a mat do you think that this is a sexual thing you were turned on by the fact that
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you were being controlled like a dog i think in a sense it does okay um you know biblical submission
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is nothing that you're describing right what did you say biblical submission means you're submitting
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to a man who deserves to be submitted to and you respect yourself because he respects you as well
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i so like the idea that you're equating like biblical submission and like your religion or
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lack thereof your jesus relationship with submission as a dog doesn't add up like it doesn't it's not
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the same i don't think anything adds up yeah so that's just i mean i it's what i enjoy uh i know that
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it's hard to believe but but can you agree that that's not the same type of submission so when you
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say that you believe in like biblical submission that's not what what you're doing well i never said
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that i believe in biblical submission i said that i am submissive why don't you believe in the bible
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right do you not believe in the bible do you believe in the church that jesus founded or you
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just believe in jesus i mean i believe in the bible i believe in jesus i'm not the most religious person
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i feel like obviously that's something i need to work on and get closer to the lord but what do you what
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do you have like things that you do to do that or like what are your usual routines i do bible study
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on tuesday it's called like life men's bible study i'm trying my best to learn as much as i can
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i know that i'm not the most is do you do it online or in person it's online but i have printed out i can
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pull up a photo of like the formats the prompts that we have that i look over um but i'm learning as
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much as i can you know i feel like i can obviously do better and that's what i'm trying to do get closer
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to the lord and try my best to yeah that's good if you are doing that that's fantastic but i felt
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like you were being a bit like tongue-in-cheek before you were saying oh i get on my knees and
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i pray to him every night i do i pray every night yeah but the way you said it though you said that
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you were trying to be tongue-in-cheek cheeky and looking at the camera and it's not really the way
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you should say it i mean that's yeah that's fair were you being tongue-in-cheek though i wasn't trying to
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i think i i think i come across as flirty or cheeky when i get nervous so yeah maybe if that
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wasn't my intention behind it yeah do you treat like all of your other relationships kind of how
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you treated the one that you just described i like to be chip boys yeah i like to be treated in that
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sense um i'm always very submissive i feel like i mean i've only been in
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two real relationships i guess and i prefer to be submissive all the time i think it's like
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my duty i guess i feel safer that way i don't want to have to make my own decisions i don't want to have
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to i guess really just make my own decisions it's just what i prefer i need i feel like i need a sense
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of control i am have like a wild card i guess um and i feel like i need that guidance and those rules
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and consequences that can kind of keep me you know if you don't mind me asking and you don't have to
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answer this but do you have some kind of like childhood trauma something that happened to you
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that might have caused this and you don't have to go into detail no that no that's fine i mean i think
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that's a fair question i am into some weird stuff and i think most people who are into really weird
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things do have that trauma um i don't i don't think i mean my parents got divorced when i was
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maybe one apollo shenita donated 100 we have a serious mental health crisis in this country
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but i don't think that that directly affected me growing up um is your dad in your life when your
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parents got divorced i mean i was probably one years old so i don't really remember
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any of it at all um i think maybe that's a good thing but no i don't have any uh childhood trauma
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i think so single mom raised by a single mom she got remarried okay and did that man treat you well
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like was he a good example yeah good wait going around the table uh who here's parents are still
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together just one by one go ahead mine or not nope mine were before my mom passed no i don't want to
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answer yes yes shout out mom and dad watching yo shout out sarah's mom and dad are they are they
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watching i don't know i think so they knew i was doing this so sweet okay uh what did i miss guys it
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seems like i stepped away something about dogs and kennels or someone yeah i um i'll fix it but
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no i don't have i mean i don't think i have any childhood trauma i think i'm just maybe a little
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bit weird oh okay let me get a couple chats here we have loon and if anybody else wants to answer that
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but so lunaroo donated 50 hey thank you man i feel that daphne is afraid to say that she's doing this
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for the money but off stream out of work she isn't technically the same person as she posts
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an actor daphne what's your take explain i mean obviously i'm i want to do only fans for the money
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i'm not making a bunch of money right now i'm really not um how much you making i mean i don't
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want to say an exact five figures what no five figures a month five figures a month god no i
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wish i wish no i'm not like rolling in the well i mean yeah or don't step it up excuse me
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um don't step it up i mean obviously the goal would be to make a bunch of money and be able to get all
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the things you know that i would want and but i'm i'm not rolling around in a bunch of money that would
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be really cool though if i was seberg people do not decide their futures they decide their habits and
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their habits decide their futures fm alexander when you make a choice you change the future
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deepak chopra chopra chopra thank you sebergay good to see you in the chat man appreciate your
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patronage thank you dude we have stochastic 316 is this the same as stochastic decay thou shall not
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subscribe to her only fans you don't have a chance with her you can't save her i forbid everyone
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watching from dming or subscribing to her only fans you okay all right i almost feel is that like
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a reverse psychology thing like you're actually trying to get people to sub to her sounds like it
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seems a little yeah okay all right all right i think we're all caught up on oh we got one from
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cj here coming in hot ladies please reiterate your age and state the theoretical maximum age
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of a man you would consider dating for the purposes of marriage okay we can do this uh starting with
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you uh what's your age and what's the oldest uh man you would date i'm 24 i think realistically i would
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date up to i don't know 70 i like older men but but i feel as long as they're the pandering continues
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as long as they can make sense i think as long as they can make sense but i don't know i mean i
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haven't been with alzheimer's yeah i'm not i'm gonna try and not judge i haven't been
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joe biden right well no he's an idiot no but what if he wanted like a pet dog relationship
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he's liberal so no i wouldn't give him that crazy yeah you'd need to be the i know
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are you dating to get married are you gonna get married for like two years i'm not dating right
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now i mean i'm not dating right now i don't plan on dating right now right now i'm just trying to
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but i'm saying if you dated a 70 year old then you wouldn't have very much time i mean i yeah no
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i mean that's the strategy though he kicks the bucket and you get the year oh god would you date
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a 28 year old australian man they have to come by i don't know i think i mean obviously age is
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important but i think i do go based off of personality but i i don't know maybe okay all right
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good question all right what about you i'm 20 and maximum age for marriage
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i feel like 27 okay for something serious yeah what about you i'm 28
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no older than like 34 i got a chance boys okay what about you i'm 28 and i don't know probably like
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i probably try to keep it within a decade range okay i'm 24 and i don't really know probably
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probably like 28 or something like that okay i'm 19 i'm about to be 20 in a couple weeks
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so the oldest i would date maybe would be 24 25 sure i'm 20 um i haven't thought about this too hard
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but probably like 26 is the oldest right now um but i'd day older in a few years
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okay we have that uh let's see here we have a few more notes we have uh where were we okay
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more we we have a few more from daphne did you did you say the step bro story did she yes
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can you tell it again because i wasn't i don't recall yes um so i was working in a restaurant
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when i was 18 sure i don't care where you were working why do no i don't know if this is sexist
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but like why do it seems to me it occurs to me that when women tell stories you need to tell us
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shit that does not fucking matter at all not all can you not all women but for some reason you oh
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and uh me and becky were talking and then oh we we had a fucking cob salad and you asked no it
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the king of chi donated 100 girl one the cat who told you that your makeup was attractive
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you mentioned you are not going anywhere with that act so how did that happen why continue
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i think they're asking like why how it happened that you've been acting like a dog slash cat i don't
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know oh um i just enjoy it i feel comfortable doing it i like it um i know it's weird and i know that
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people might judge me and i'm okay with that but i it makes me feel comfortable i enjoy acting like a
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dog and being completely submissive and controlled and you know i know it's hard for me to say like
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don't kink shame because i kink shame and i get it i get it i do it's weird it's strange but i like it
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and it makes me makes me feel safe and that's what would you would you date a dog not not like a
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literal dog but like a woman who wants to play pretend um it wouldn't be in my purview and i
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can't really see i don't really think i know anybody who it would be but it's obviously a kink and
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you're obviously getting subscribers for it and this act is obviously gonna get you subscribers as
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well so yeah power to you you know i'm not gonna lie i might actually be willing to go for it
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i might be okay with it but seriously like what is like the mentality i'm sorry what is the
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mentality behind that you playing the part of the animal but then like you find yourself in a
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relationship with the man who's basically a like there's gotta be some attraction to like
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the like the animal that you're pretending to be like it's kind of where's the mentality behind
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that you're attenuating bestiality yeah apollo shinoda donated 100 again we have a serious mental
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health crisis in this country because like i don't understand like i well i guess you're into it so i
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guess it makes sense in yeah so do you like to do but like it's just like for me it's like why would
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i seek out that type of man who's into that like yeah no i i get it it is it is strange i understand
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it's it like i get your question um i know i don't identify as a dog i know that i'm a human
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hunter donated 100 okay brian watch your mouth she ain't interested wait wait who her dog lady
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i know i'm not a dog i think people who or a cat i think people who identify as those like animals
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what do they call them like the ethereum or something other kin theory yeah i think i think
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that's weird i know i'm a human like i know that i just i have this thing where i really enjoy being
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completely submissive like i don't i just i have to do like an animal like why do you have to be
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a dog when you do that it doesn't i just growing up being sheltered like i wasn't allowed out of the
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house i wasn't really allowed to have friends i was never allowed to go to parties i had my mom and
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my stepfather were very very strict with me growing up so the only i lived allowed to have
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friends or be let out of the house no i mean i wasn't allowed to go out on the weekends like i
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had friends in school but you know on my own time when i was with my own thoughts like what could i do
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i just had like a dog and so i would pretend to be a dog and i would go run around outside and do dog
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like wait when did this how old were you when this started on it i think before i remember i
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i've always i mean been this way i guess i can't really think of a time where it like started i just
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know that i've gotten in trouble for sleeping in my dog's kennel i've gotten in trouble for trying
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to eat my dog's food wait there is something like jake okay entertain me here for a sec all right
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do you know that scene i know what you're gonna say
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there's this there's this uh scene in the office and this dynamic didn't exist where
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where michael and jan were dating and she made michael sleep at the oh my god at the edge of the bed
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oh not even that it was like this little uh like a ottoman at the edge of the bed and like
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bro that's kind of fucking toads dude come on right wait so you're the dog
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no no no no no she's the dog girl's the dog oh okay sleeping arrangement you get to sort of have
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your space i don't enjoy sleeping with people though no see well for me like i like in a bed
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i i don't like sleeping in the same bed with the chair yeah like go into the other room please get
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out of here go in the guest room i drool a lot so i get self-conscious about me sleeping so i don't
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like to sleep in the same bed it checks out somebody i really don't she drools we like
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submissive is good guys by the way you want a submissive i'm joking a little bit i cannot no
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and i submissive adult human female i agree i am a human i am not a dog or a cat i know that
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studio spencer get me get me the leash you know what i'm signing up for this instead of saying you
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like being submissive would you agree that you would say i like being owned yeah i would actually
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so you agree that if you had a boyfriend they would be your owner not like your boyfriend i would
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yeah i do do you remember generally human beings should be owned by other people like
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is that something that you agree obviously that's something that sounds a bit intense
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but that's what you're saying right for me personally that's what i i like so you like
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being owned i do yeah but do you ever find yourself like you doing whatever and then you're like oh
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like shit like this guy loki might be into the animal aspect of it i don't think it's no i don't
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i really don't take it that far i love my animal ears i mean maybe maybe i don't think it's that i do
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have a kennel why would you want to be with someone who sees you as like an animal like somebody who
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wants to dehumanize you like that and own you why would you want to that that's why i was asking about
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your self-worth i think that if if a man can look at me and think that i'm a dog that's a bit weird
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obviously i'm a human how's your leash discipline do you have good discipline on the leash i don't tug
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i don't pull on the leash so what do you ever walked in the street um no i haven't been walked
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in the street um but i just around the house what's your around the house like what breed do you most
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mostly identify with um i think i think if i were to pick a breed that i identify with i would say
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german shepherd i think they listen really well i get more like wiener dog from you really i get more
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like a lawn-haired wiener dog no like those that wiener dog from pretzel toy story the book oh
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i think i would be a german shepherd i think they're obedient shepherd yeah no get out of
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here with that so a wiener dog it is then yeah you're a wiener dog i'm sorry if this is rude do
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you pee outside when you're um okay so i have before but that i know it's weird okay in the grass
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but that's when i was growing up now i feel like that's when you're a puppy wait hold on yeah when
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i'm when i was a puppy wait question have any of you had had a puppy like had a dog right yeah i don't
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know if you with your dog like you know how like i don't know i had a i had a uh oh my god how am i
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a golden retriever excuse me i was blanking there i had a golden retriever and like it was weird like
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whenever he squatted to take a shit he would like always like look at me yeah they eyeball you
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trust you that's a sign of trust yeah he just looks at you as if he's trying to say do so it
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kind of looks like me actually he could even be like the dog could be facing away from me and if
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i was standing behind him he'd like yeah while shitting i've had golden's too and they always do
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that and i hate it i'm like stop it's a sign of trust that you're like watching their back like
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you're watching their perimeter you seem to know this quite well yeah i guess i do oh no wait hold
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on so does this like question for you though is is this like strictly does this not manifest itself
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is is this manifest itself in a sexual way too or is it strictly like an innocent sort of way i it
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started off innocent i would love to say that it is all innocent but it i in a sexual way i think it
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does come out do you did she say do you bark during sexual intercourse um
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i know i know it's weird do you no it's okay i know it's weird you bark during sex i have
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i think she's acting a little bit here i can i think it's weird when i i don't know i mean yes
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yes i have but welcome to the whatever podcast whatever dog i know i know it's weird i know it's
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but yes i have when you're climaxing do you oh no no no that's weird you don't park no that's
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weird that's weird yeah that yeah that's my yeah that would be a great actress though i will say that
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okay whatever dog cast okay i just want to apologize for the wolf have a dog cast
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no it's i'm not trying to judge no don't apologize at all it's weird it's okay oh yeah you're telling
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about so basically uh i'll recap the step bro story for you you're with a guy for a couple months
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obviously we were having sex anyways okay turns out he's my stepbrother and that didn't necessarily
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stop us but we aren't doing anything anymore wait stepbrother so was there any relation no not
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blood relation so it's oh fine is that weird i don't think that's it was i mean it's not illegal
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did you guys grow up together no so like your dad remarried you were 19 and then he was your so his
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parents were divorced my parents were divorced my dad married his mom so it's not illegal he wasn't
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like my blood brother we weren't related i mean aside from the like potential conflict i've read this
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in a script before i swear like this is so normally you skip this part hey this is browser script
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like it is pretty browsers okay uh let's see uh okay you talked about the whole kennel thing and
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being treated like a dog um how is your mental health like are you on any medications no i don't
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take medication have you been diagnosed with anything um no i haven't i i know that i'm weird but i
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i i try my best to stay away from apollo shinoda donated 100 she's craving and getting too much
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attention now please move on from daphne correct spelling can i answer this one question about
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medication sure i think medication is evil i feel like the fda doesn't approve of anything that cures and
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i feel like if you take a medication there's just going to be more side effects to it so i
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try my best to stay on a natural path but um no i'm not on any medication i don't really want to
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be on any medication and i don't trust doctors oh my god well i just don't trust it totally dating
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related i was more asking about a mental diagnosis it just seems like it's not something a mentally
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healthy person would do who grew up you know with two parents in the home and no trauma i mean
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that's a fair assessment yeah that's a very not believe who knows maybe i maybe i could but uh no
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i haven't been diagnosed with anything cool you said uh you said you'd like to get very controversial
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you like to play devil's advocate and have no problem talking up storm on any topic i mean is there
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any i don't want you to play devil's advocate but is there anything dating related that you actually do
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have very controversial controversial views on um i think i mean yes in a sense i also think a big
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part of the controversy comes from the fact that i am an only fans girl and that i still view things
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that i don't uphold like the body count and the value things like that um i think that's pretty
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controversial well you wrote here you think modern day dating is a bit asinine i am traditional and think
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a man deserves a woman who can protect his spirit i think a high value man deserves to have a woman
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that he constructs within his head or his ideal girl as i can only imagine what he has holy run on
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sentence batman um what he has had to go through to get into this position of authority uh let's see so
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you are a traditional woman you deserve uh and think a man deserves a woman who can protect his spirit
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interesting that you bring up spirit there uh you mentioned deserves a woman who can protect his
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spirit do you think a woman who is or was involved in porn like yourself is capable of protecting a man's
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spirit i do i do i think maybe not be it might not be the spirit of a high value man i think i can
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protect a man's spirit i'm very feminine and i think that my feminine energy brings a balance to
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the masculinity that i look for in a relationship but i think like you say protecting a man's spirit
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but like perhaps that's i mean i don't bring drama i don't bicker i don't no bickering no no bickering
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no drama no fighting i try my best not to argue obviously i go through those moments where i think
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like oh you know he's mad at me and i need that little bit of reassurance but i think that's normal
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but i don't bicker i don't fight i don't argue i do as i'm told i think that is protecting a man's
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masculinity not causing more stress on him than there already is what about other aspects of protecting
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his uh spirit um like like not having photos of you fellating dildos on your twitter hello
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spirit killer like spirit major spirit killer if i was your boyfriend i'd be like take that
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shit down right now i would take it down delete your only fans um did i just date these of girls
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so they delete their only fans is that one by one wanted to tell i'm i'm putting in the work bro i'm
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fucking i'm doing god's work what about like um like you know emotional support and like you know
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just being there like you know um in a relationship typically like men uh rely on women for that kind of
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stuff you know um society tells men like oh tough it out and whatnot and i'm not disagreeing with that
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point of view and whatnot but like when you're the woman in a relationship you want to be that like that
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kind of like a person that he leans on you know yeah um i'm definitely emotionally supportive when my
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man allows him himself to show those emotions i this may be controversial again i think i've never seen
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my man cry i don't want to see him cry i think men are very emotional creatures by nature i think that
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it's the control of the emotions that is the most important part and if need be i have to be that
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person to emotionally support him if times get rough and he needs someone to talk to i will be there but
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i think a man being able to control his emotions is a very masculine and respectable trait what about the
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emotion of lust the emotion of lust that i don't want anything to do with what he does on the side
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that's not something that i'm interested in i don't want to know about who he's going to see
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and cheat on me with i know that it's inevitable i know it's going to happen and i'm just going to accept
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it i don't want to know anything about it if you if you had a partner um because you mentioned that um
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you think a man who can uh be in control of his emotions um so if you did have like back to what we
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were talking about a partner who couldn't control his um his lust for another woman would you find
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him to be a little bit more demasculated because of that i don't think that it's that he can't
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control his lust for another woman i think that it's because he chooses not to i think control is not
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a part of that i think if a man wants to go cheat he will i don't think that it's because he can't
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control his lust all right moving on sarah here this sarah uh you said you i don't know how
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interesting this is for you to talk about but you said you dated your friend's older brother
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yeah i did i don't think there's anything wrong with that unless there's more to the story than just
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i mean yeah it's kind of weird at first was it like a revenge thing like you want no nothing like
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that she ended up being pretty chill with it but oh okay don't work out you said fun fact my hinge
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date was what part of the january 6 insurrection insurrection i don't believe that based
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he didn't go in the capital he was going to go in but so was that a green flag or a red flag green green
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flag okay all right slide guys if any of you copped a felony charge her dms are open
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okay uh let's see here who have we not we got venus we got daphne we got we got a bit from sarah we got
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uh angelique did we oh i think we got most hold on being wait hold on oh did you finish your
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questionnaire me yeah what do you mean when she left did you i don't know oh okay sorry i'm
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okay hold on i see i see so back to uh angelique here you said wait hold on uh wait
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sorry there's a lot of notes from you uh did you define what patriarchy is yes we talked about that
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already did we okay we did uh okay uh you said you wanted to focus on how man being pro-choice is
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anti-woman and the biggest red flag of all time and dating i think we kind of
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talked about that uh if a man's willing to kill his own child i don't want to be with him word
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okay second thing is modern dating seems like everyone is dancing around reality no one is
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straightforward men don't properly ask women on dates it's just situationships and hanging out
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women don't clearly state their expectations and get surprised later that they're dating a scumbag
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yeah yeah you know it's like you have if you have to have if you look for standards you have
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to be the standard and you can't look for the what you want in the place where that person's not going
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to be i just feel like it's it's kind of about logic more than anything else and sometimes we we
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come to our emotions too much when we're when we talk about dating um like we want this we want that
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but then we don't really look for that and we don't we aren't really the person that we want to
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see in a person we're with sure and i do think men are moving away from you know doing those things i
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mean i there's a probably a lot of reasons for that some of the blame i think rests on men but i do
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think some of the blame also rests on women for example i mean the uh you know you have women who will
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uh expose men for daring to approach them uh or flirt with them and a lot of men are seeing and
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in the social media age uh this is a massive issue because people care deeply about their reputations
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and especially in you know for example uh college or high school if a guy were to perhaps awkwardly
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approach a woman that's a bigger hit when fucking she can go to fucking twitter or instagram and oh
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this creepy guy fucking hit on me or whatever so um i think they're you know the whole me too thing
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granted look there's some very valid things going on there but i think you know there's guys i don't
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know if you guys are familiar with like the uh i'm trying to think of an example recently like women
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will just like leak dms of guys innocently flirting with them and like shame them for doing what women
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want men to do which is take initiative um i mean so yeah i think they're being sent the opposite
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message of what we actually want like if you want a man to be xyz you actually have to treat the men who
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are xyz as if you know they have something valid to offer um so yeah i completely agree i think it's
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both people but you have to put out there what you have you hope to find i feel like if a man like i saw
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this video of this girl who was in a gym and she was just doing a normal workout this guy like turned
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for a second because she had this giant tripod set up and she was like what the are you looking at
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like you're a total creep and i think that all of that is such cases yeah such cases i think it's a
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really big issue and then with speaking about the me too movement i have seen a lot of like things come
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forward about um false sexual assault claims which is sickening it's terrible and i think that um
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um yeah yeah something i wanted to also say is that i think one of the biggest overarching problems
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with dating and society now is the fact that if we don't respect ourselves we can't respect our
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partners and then ultimately obviously i'm very passionate about this then we can't respect the
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children we create so i think that's the biggest thing like we have to respect ourselves first and
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then we can respect it definitely we need a higher standard of people yes you men are scared to take
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initiative now so yeah i was gonna say i don't think it's just women that's the problem i think
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that men just aren't as masculine anymore and they don't really pursue as much anymore i mean their
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testosterone levels are literally so lower and they're all addicted to porn and yeah why would they pursue
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a woman in real life i yeah i don't think it's just a man or a woman problem i think definitely both
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it's definitely both um so you said i mean to have bosses yeah uh you said this whole body count
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topic and how i hear people say lower body count is preferred for women and it's simultaneous
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simultaneously respectable to have a high body count for men first of all the fact that the phrase
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body count exists at all how dehumanizing it literally makes human beings just a number yes
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yeah because you can't you can't engage in that activity without also giving something of your
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soul and your emotions and we talked about it earlier the chemical bonding so to say just like
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body count and like we're just like stacking names and like a list or just numbers even not even names
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then you're no longer like connecting to that person anymore which is kind of the point right like
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you're trying to just gain experience and that's what i meant by men it's respected somehow like
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having more experience that doesn't make any sense to me because why would you want to have
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why would you want your man to have experience in that realm if it means it's with other people
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because then they're just he's just connected with other people and he's comparing you to all those
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past experiences so instead of learning together about something that you both don't know much about
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and learning it together for the rest of your life he's like thinking oh well susan back in the day
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yeah but you're a major outlier like most people both men and women are either secular or atheist or
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agnostic or nominally christian um so i mean i don't think religion has to do with it honestly i
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really don't i don't not necessarily it wasn't religious this isn't really the reason why i think
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this to be fair like that's it support my religion supports what i think but in reality i think this is
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a completely secular concept as well it's like this show that it's it's unhealthy to be with multiple
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people but it's i would argue that among atheists or agnostics or secular people it's probably uh the
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it's probably much more rare to find people who uh believe in purity sexual purity for example so
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sex yeah uh it's it's rare that doesn't mean it's not attainable or that we shouldn't talk about it
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your objective your objection to the phrase body count let me ask you a question so if i were to ask you
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how many previous sexual partners you've had and you tell me 10 right i mean didn't you just
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do that which you object to which is putting a number um to something i mean the body count
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question is just another sterile way oh uh don't switch to that uh wait let me put it over here
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all right um it's just a sort of sterile way of asking how many sexual partners you've had no i
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understand the purpose why we have to to reduce things down to like one or two words yeah it's to
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shorten the four words versus seven how many people yeah i know but it's just like the idea
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that the choice words are body count i'm just pointing out that like it's sad it's sad to me
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that to think like if you do have a lot of people that you've had encounters with that ultimately at
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the end of the day especially if it's i guess it's if it's higher then you're really just you have to
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think of it as a body count versus like oh sure john and zoo or whatever like they're no longer people
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they're just numbers okay uh and then did we get everything i think we got katie down i think that's
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four dollars a month okay all right um where uh is there is there anything dating related that any
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vixen i know you have some dying thoughts here i know you've been burning with
04:57:45.640
things going through your brain why don't you tell us no like i don't have anything really
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cool i have one if if no one else does does anyone else anyone's dating you got you got
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something you got what you what you got for us you got something no okay what you got maybe you
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guys will agree but um my like not it's not a hot take it's just what i think but
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that you should be friends with the person you're with before you even start dating um i think it's
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like it's like one of the more foolproof ways to know somebody before you like commit your like
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life to them or just like even in general just have like that exclusivity of dating um and put it in
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that that limelight and i feel like friendship is such a the root and basis of a good romantic
04:58:39.880
relationship especially one that lasts forever because as you get older you lose money you lose
04:58:44.840
your attractiveness you lose like all the things that maybe were factors when you first started dating
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but what doesn't change disavow your friendship that you have together so i say marry your best
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friend and you should probably find out if they're a friend before you even get get together with them
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get into them with them all of those things i think you can kind of cover that basis when you're
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dating if you just wait to have sex with each other that's true too yeah that's true because i have
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no interest in having female friends so if you're gonna say oh we're gonna be friends for a while no
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thank you i i understand that i just mean like if you are friends with someone already maybe you
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can consider taking it to the next level and i was also saying that to your point earlier about
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like being realistic about the secular world that they're gonna do it anyways i would never recommend
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at least put it off long enough to actually become friends with somebody i'd never recommend
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a guy waiting in the friend zone and waiting for his moment well that's the problem with saying
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friend zone and always making it a negative that's what that's what happens when in reality
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maybe you think you're in the friend zone but really you're just like you you already kind of
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put out your put yourself out there like you're interested in the person and in only like a sexual
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way which i find happens a lot like that's been my experience as well it's a cold guys will act like
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you're friends but in reality we're not stupid we know that you're you're you have like an in-game
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when like we could just be friends then maybe we find out that we like each other later i get it and
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from like that sort of more benevolent point of view where you would give the guy the chance then that that
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they're sure but for the most part what it is is guys who don't quite know how to get in with
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this particular girl that they're trying that they they fancy or whatever and then the girl will sort
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of keep him around for attention and sort of boyfriend things without giving him the benefits
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of being a boyfriend the lifts to the airport the jackets the shoulder to cry on but then he never
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gets any of the benefits of being a boyfriend it's just the way that the world works it's cold
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reality situation that definitely happens i'm just saying that it's still a good thing to be friends
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with someone before you get let me ask you a question on that so do you think you think that
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should be the case for both men and women they should start with as friends in the hopes that
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it will one day lead to something romantic first of all i don't think it's like a full proof like
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everyone does this and it works or something i'm just saying it's a good idea to think that in your
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head or not necessarily be friends before you start dating but just have a friendship like i'm saying
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that a lot of times i hear people talk about like their boyfriend or their girlfriend or their dating
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person and they it doesn't sound like they have a friendship like they don't know each other on that level
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it's like they you know they sleep together and then they go out to dinner they're on their phones
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and they go home so i'm saying if you have that friendship you can't lose that like you can fight
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for that friendship versus just like oh he's my boyfriend but like i don't really know i mean i
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agree i think it's important to get to know each other on levels other than just romantic or sexual
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i think that's the whole point of what dating should be you should take your time getting to know someone
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but i don't think it should be called friendship if you both know you're mutually interested in
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each other yeah it just seems like if if there is a mutual interest as sarah said then why play this
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game of like let's just be friends for nine months it's almost like this sort of it's almost sad in
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a way you hear these couples who like they liked they both liked each other but like they were both
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too pussy to admit it and then they're like why didn't we just reveal to each other that we were
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one that we were romantic although i feel like that's pretty rare but like i think the guy like
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it's always pretty obvious if a guy is spending a lot of time with with a woman that yeah he's
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interested right no i i've had a lot of female friends earlier in my life i don't have any really
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now but they were they were never ugly the female friends yeah no i definitely don't disagree with
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you at all about the fact that we shouldn't like play a game or that it's about like waiting until
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some random moment we're like we like each other i'm simply saying friendship should be a foundation
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of relationships i agree with what you're saying actually in terms of um creating that foundation
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as well because oftentimes sex can be used as an out where like you're having an argument or whatever
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you have some makeup sex and it's all good or you've got nothing to do you just have but if you don't
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have that and if you actually have to sort out problems then you know it's gonna be a lot stronger
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right math donated 100 thank you man hello bricks and love from dubai money or looks girls also i'm
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just wondering how much to kick someone off the show uh it's a bitcoin to kick somebody off the show
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he is from dubai so maybe he's got that uh you'll have to mess it's not in the description if you
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genuinely want to uh do a bitcoin we'll kick someone off the show we'll kick someone off the show you'll
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have to dm me on instagram math so i'll send you the crypto wallet or whatever uh on the friends thing
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really quick i mean um i don't agree i just you can't be i think things ought to start romantic from
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the get-go because there's too much room then for for like unrequited love one person and then you've
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just if if your recommendation is you should pursue a friendship like if you're genuinely pursuing a
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friendship just for the friendship i suppose that's okay because then you're genuinely just pursuing a
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friendship but if you're doing it with some like ulterior motive which seems to be what you're
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suggesting well you're saying people ought to start at friends i didn't say ought i didn't say
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this is some foolproof thing i literally just suggested it as an idea for people who don't
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even consider the idea of friendship in a relationship but if but if you're recommending
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here start as just friends i mean that's kind of it's not like start it's not like oh we meet
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let's be friends like that someday we maybe will be together i'm just saying like if you have a friend
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then you should develop that friendship and then it could be something else but the point the point
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i'm making is that friendship is a foundation for things instead of just being people that use each
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other i just can't see friends and like relationship being in the same thing like like romantic
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relationship like when i think about my friends i can't picture like being romantic with any of them
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like it's just weird to think about me being romantic like i'm not saying like oh every friend
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like look at them as if you're gonna be with them that's not my point the friendship can also kind
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of in a way i think potentially make you a bit like numbed or like not attracted to the idea of
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being romantic as well if you guys just develop a friendship yeah so if you if you're speaking
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about like how much when you're dating and you're exclusive but you're not having sex yet i think
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that's a that's a reasonable point because you'd learn a lot a lot about each other yeah and that's
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part of the point too that's for sure yeah i have a question i'll do it for my theory and i'm just
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going for it do you think girls can have guy friends and the guy friends don't have any ulterior motives
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no absolutely not don't don't be ridiculous i disagree why do you disagree because i have
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instagram i have guy friends i don't think they have any sort of ulterior motives with me i mean
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when you say they probably hide it well when you say guy friends though do you mean guys that you go
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out and go for lunch with and hang out with one-on-one and that sort of thing or do you just mean guy
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friends who are acquaintances because those are two very different things like sometimes hang out one-on-one
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but not like it's like a close friendship or hang out all the time but i think i have like guys in my
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life that i trust that are my friends and i don't i mean maybe but uh if it was in a relationship
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context and if you're my girlfriend and you were saying oh i'm just going to go hang out with henry
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i'd say no you're not because well not one like not like in a private one-on-one setting like we're
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like hang out all the time yeah but if you have acquaintances i'll come back i saw bill at the shop
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yesterday and we stopped and chatted for i'd say oh cool how is bill but you know not if he said oh then
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we went to lunch together and we went for a walk on the beach it'd be okay well yeah i understand that
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okay bill uh matt i'm totally i'm very sorry we skipped your primary question here he asked
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money or looks so we're gonna start with you money or looks if you had to pick one for a guy if i had
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to pick one for a guy yeah wait math what's like how much money are we talking here like is it is the
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comparison like brad pitt in his prime or like but he's doesn't have much money maybe makes average
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amount of money versus like a billionaire but he's just
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rough you know i mean i think pick one if i i mean if i had to pick one i would say money
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looks i would say first is how someone makes me feel and then no no no and then money so no no no
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looks above money for sure looks i have no answer oh my god i don't i only find one person attractive
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and therefore wait but it's not about money or looks engage i really can't i i don't really value
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those that high so i can't really say one's better than the other because you can always make more
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money do you want to be you you say you don't value money looks look better later do you want a
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question so do you want to uh you want to have kids right yes do you think your current boyfriend
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he's gonna like he's the guy you're gonna marry absolutely okay do you know when you're gonna
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want to start having kids whenever god decides okay uh are you guys engaged not yet not yet okay
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do you know how many kids you want whenever god wants i don't know you have no you have no
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how long have you been dating i want as many kids as i can have like whatever whatever happens okay so
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okay i so i've never really thought about either so okay so do you have a sense of when you would like to
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be married by because you're 24 correct yeah just sometimes soon why hasn't he proposed okay
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that's a great question so it's something that's personal so you're 24 let's say would you like to
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be married by 27 and would you like to start having kids when you're married yes okay so you said as
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many kids as god will provide so let's say you can get you want 13 kids basically this is i want as
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as many as god wants for me to have like i literally don't have an answer like maybe three
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right but given that i assume you're not gonna if you're i assume you're not gonna mind down the
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line this isn't okay but i assume you're not gonna want to work right work like for money or work like
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in general well if you're gonna be from the age of 27 to 40 if you're gonna be constantly pregnant
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and taking care of the kids that's not how fertility works i mean you'll spend some time
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pregnant though do you want to do you want to be do you want to be working when you're um
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heavily working outside the home yeah do you want to be working and making money when you're heavily
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pregnant not ideally would you like your husband to be the primary breadwinner yes and he plans to
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he plans to so money does matter to you you asked me whether money or looks matter more but you said you
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don't care about either i didn't say i didn't care about them i just said i don't what did she say
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can somebody in the chat i don't want to misquote her what specifically did she uh she's more alluding
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to not equating the two like the two don't really um right like i don't see those things as like so
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high up that i would compare the two whatever puffy oh it's donated 100 there is no such thing as
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females having male friends they just have guys that they use if she refers to a guy as her friend
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she wants to sleep with him or already has that's so ridiculous that's not true i i honestly think
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it's pretty hard for men and women to be friends it is hard but it doesn't mean that we have ulterior
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motives when we are friends but it doesn't matter if the woman does that i feel like in most cases
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the man does yeah it's mostly the dudes the woman is getting what she wants he's bagging on us also
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here's the other thing when it comes to male and female friendships so let's say it's totally innocent
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right maybe it is whatever when you get married or even if you're in a relationship i believe
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that there's an impropriety for you to be let's say it's for you to be hanging out with your male
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friend one-on-one as your boyfriend i would not be okay with you hanging out with your male friends
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one-on-one i would not be okay with your male friends coming over to your house hanging out with
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you one-on-one yes and that's totally and so but so the issue with male and female friendships once
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you get involved with someone romantically they're look some people are fine with the partner having
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friends of the opposite sex but you may find yourself in a relationship with somebody who isn't
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and then that friendship is over so why invest in a relationship where there's a very good likelihood
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that there's going to be a breakdown of the friendship because of the sort of intersex
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dynamics well you're not really thinking about all like this like oh i'm gonna have to like dump this
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friend when you make friends i mean unless you're forcing friendships my friendships with my friends
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have all been pretty natural when i do have like when i do get in a relationship and my boy i do i am not
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a hypocrite i would not want my boyfriend to have girlfriends so i would probably like oh like just like
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like sure turn it down with my guy friends but before relationships just in general like i think
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that's what he was saying like girls and guys can't be friends well like what if okay and i'm not
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trying to sound like i know people are going to be like roasting like oh she's such a pygmy blah blah blah
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like no like genuinely like you just happen to be like a girl who who um just connects better with
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like guys or like sometimes it's just kind of hard for us to build girl friendships that's not a
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picnic i think the issue is is that like if you're a woman and you're in a relationship with a guy
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and it's romantic and you have a guy friend it's the fact that the woman is still entertaining
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the male friend and entertaining those thoughts that are going through his head where he's thinking oh i'm
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i want to sleep with this woman and you're entertaining the thought whether you may
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know it or not you're still there in his presence and it's but you're also i'm saying before that i'm
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talking about before that like before relationship like i would totally like i understand my partner's
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like like what he's thinking through blah blah but like i don't think organically like to make friends
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with someone of the opposite sex it's just like because you have um i i don't know how to explain
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it like it just kind of seems like like oh i'm forcing this friendship and that i'm gonna eventually
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have to break like no like this guy has a really good vibe he's like uh or like or like just like
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in a group setting like there's more guys more girls like in my in my uh political campus clubs
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there's more guys than the girls and i'm friends with everyone so does it mean i shouldn't have
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friendships with the guys as well as the girls like i think before before dating group before dating
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yeah okay i'm not saying like i'm hanging out solely with like men but i'm just saying like
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there are relationships that are being formed between men and women so i mean just actually
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thread it back to what you said about how you said you think relationships should start with
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friendships that actually like they should i said they can okay but but if that's like what you're
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recommending like those two absolute like absolutely if your view that relationships or
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love interest should start as friends absolutely they need to cut their friends off 100 in those
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circumstances like the friends have to be donezo gone yeah friends got oh here's a here's a worse
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one one-on-one if you're in a relationship what's that you wouldn't hang out with the opposite sex if
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you're in a relationship like one-on-one of course are you like communicating with them texting them
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i text my friends like in in a like regular this is not worth truthfully though it's just not worth
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investing in in like a opposite sex friendship really uh just because of the potential conflict when one
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one or the other gets into a romantic relationship i think i feel like you don't need to have like
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this deep best friendship with the opposite sex just to be friends like you can be like acquaintance
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friends just having an association sure acquaintance is different i'm not saying you're having like
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this best friend guy and you have a boyfriend too absolutely not well here's a worse one your
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boyfriend should be here's here's somewhat related to this topic what about people that remain
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friends with their exes that's no no like why why why would you let that temptation be there because
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your friendship is part of a romantic relationship so if you're friends with your ex then you that
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means you're still attached to them that's i just understand how it's wait so you are you
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in favor of people staying friends with their no i'm saying friendship is part of your romantic
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relationship so if you're still friends with your ex that means that you have an attachment to them
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still they should be in your romantic relationship you know what they look like full circle
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i think you should be on like good terms with an ex it shouldn't be hopefully you can end a
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relationship in an amicable way but i don't think there should be like a continued any continued anything
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you know so uh even if it's platonic or whatever um i have a couple chats that we need to get through
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wait did we get around everybody on the money looks thing no i think i yeah i i legitimately do not
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know like i it's there's pros and cons with both okay and i'm not at a point to decide right now
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sarah looks or money i mean it's like one of those questions that i want to give a non-answer because it's
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kind of a dumb question but i think that's a harsh is it a dumb question be nice he's from dubai
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he's from dubai be nice to him probably asking because he has the money and not the looks maybe
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maybe um hey i know i'm just saying he's both a very handsome man and he also has a couple bitcoins
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if you think about it both are important in a relationship you have to be physically
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attractive to your partner but you also want a man who provides oh yeah it's like because i
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want to pick one or the other i want both because the obvious answer is like yeah both would be nice
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so but i don't know i guess if it's like if i want a little more money a little less looks i think i
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value money like a little bit more because i want someone who can provide and take care of me
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we got a couple chats here we have steven glansberg 50 brixton and jake can you please explain the
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nuances of why you say submissive women are preferred what exactly is the scope of what you
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mean by submission can you provide examples well this isn't just a one directional thing uh it's not
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just that men want submissive women women want leaders they want dominant men so it's not just like
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this thing that men are like oppressing women this is a this goes both ways women want dominant
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ambitious men who are leaders and providers and men want submissive uh submissive also when we say
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submissive we don't necessarily mean like you know like like a slave you know it's not like that i
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think submission is more submissive submissive to the will of the men so if there's a natural order
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which is god over man man over woman woman of a child then that's something that actually works very
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well and if your woman trusts you to the point where she submits to your will and she submits to your
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decisions etc then that's what i mean i don't want them to have no personality i want them to have
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passions interests hobbies read books be intelligent and all these sorts of things but also trust and
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respect my will and submit to that will because i'm i would like to consider myself a benevolent leader
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would that be within a marriage setting or also just some girl you just went on a few dates with
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you're expecting her to be submissive in my um my current state i'm looking for something that's
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i'm looking for marriage at the moment i'm not looking for like just to to date like at what point
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does she submit um well i mean i guess that there would be an element of the masculine feminine in
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the dating stage as well but once you get married then there's like you got to see where the kids are
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going to school you got to be like there's so many just important decisions to make you know so i guess
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i would agree but i think right away there are some guys who just expect like it's gotta be right
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if you trust him then you'll naturally fall into those roles there's there's not a moment where you say
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okay now you're submitting yeah you know can i ask like um like during dating if you guys are living
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together um it just dating not married what like are the guys takes like do you expect her to like
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be on the chores right away like yes right away as soon fucking first date come over do my fucking
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laundry i would say um actually no she should do my laundry on the first date though i would say that
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like if it depends it depends like if like for a guy for example from the first date i'm going to be
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paying for the for the date and i'm going to be performing my masculine roles kind of like that
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sort of uh mating signaling that you do and i think for a woman if if she came over you guys are dating
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a little bit you've had a few dates and she comes and cleans your house and kitchen and does that sort
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of signaling it's very attractive but i wouldn't live with a woman until i married her so yeah that's based
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yeah i think from from the get-go listen i'll load the laundry i'm a nice guy you can fold it cool uh i would
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on demand foot massages back rubs back rubs are necessary back rubs back scratches
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um and she's got a bow let's show this go ahead nick boom huge did you see the fucking bow huge did you
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see boom the shoes look attentive guys attentive yep fold it yeah fold it well done dear i support this
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boom oh my god look at the the food's ready i just got home from a grueling podcast look she's got
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in me the the drink i don't need i'm good at the noodles i'm a nice guy i'm a nice guy i don't need
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her to do that shit with the noodles i can do that myself but look at the attentiveness and then the
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little one more time nick show the bow just hit play you can just hit play it should replay great
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boom boom look at that i need bowing in my life um did i say uh yeah so i think yeah yep why are you
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looking at me that way why are you looking at me look at she's she's staring daggers at me what do
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you mean this is that's respect i know you're joking you wouldn't bow you wouldn't bow for your
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boyfriend or husband why is that you're being very insensitive to japanese and asian culture okay i'm
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very i think you're a little racist yeah i think you might be a little racist to to take offense to
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the bowing thing i'm going to introduce it racist while you're being sexist how is that wait how okay
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all right here we go how how am i being sex gloves are off let's go obviously i know you're joking but if
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you weren't that sexist how let's say let's say because because you should bow to god only like
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you should bow to god literally already described the hierarchy i'm not bowing to the person no it's
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god right i'm man man man man child i'm bowing to god not the man okay remove the religion component
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from this there's nothing wrong with the little bow okay if you remove the religion component i don't
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even know why i would i would bow to a man at all like that makes it even worse that makes it like
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of course not so you would never if what about there's christian japanese women they bow to their
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husbands i don't know about what they're doing i'm talking about myself you just don't you just find
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it weird you would just never even if your man who you loved asked you like bow for me you just
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wouldn't of course not give me a little bit absolutely not no i only i would only bow on this earth
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to god that's it i think you're it's not that deep bruh it's not that deep but it's not that deep
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it ain't that deep even like a play like something playful like not serious
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now everyone's playfully balling sarah you wouldn't bow your boyfriend meets he's perfect i just don't
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think i would date someone to be like can you bow for me yeah that's like that's like i just
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not strange no not strange not strange well hold on wait wait wait wait wait hold on hold on
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you all want a man to propose to you correct you want a man to get down on one knee correct
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checkmate checkmate checkmate i ain't ever getting down on a fucking knee to propose first
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off i don't believe in marriage no marriage sorry that's not bowing but i ain't getting down
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on the knee you want hold on so you're saying you want a man to get down on the knee spend ten
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thousand dollars on a ring that costs a hundred dollars more wait oh my god
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doesn't matter what attracts women is pre-selection other women's interest think
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about the bouncer at the strip club and t google guy which one gets girls yo guys puffy vegas is a
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fucking g thank you puffy vegas hold on let's talk about the cost of a ring here
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you said ten thousand's not enough for a ring so no no no don't walk it back
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brixton remember me my friend i'll come back sometime in the future when bitcoin crashes to
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kick someone off the show dot xd thank you math math to me i first off i appreciate your tts and
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your patronage thank you i think this is this your first time uh sending a tts your name's new so uh
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don't know why don't you do this though uh just send me a dm send me a dm um i i try to chat with
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you know some of the you know the patrons and stuff and we're gonna get oh guys we're gonna get a discord
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going and that's gonna be uh coming soon um going around the table how much do you think a guy should
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spend on a wedding ring starting with sarah who said ten thousand's not enough i was joking but i
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don't even know how much rings cost if i'm being honest i've like never looked into this so i don't
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know not from walmart or pandora but would you be upset if a if a man spent two hundred dollars
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on the wedding ring is that too little yes that's just tacky corp okay okay i honestly i'm not really um
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um the uh i don't really know a lot about the prices of stuff because
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financially i'm not don't they say three months
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yeah they say it's a quarter of the year salary i i really i genuinely i think this is potentially
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why people can say that they they don't want to answer the question of like looks or money because
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you actually don't know what it costs to have a wedding ring to have a family to send your kids to
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school like if you if you're not making enough money to live a comfortable life it's gonna it's
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like gonna be depressing yeah so well but i couldn't i couldn't put a price tag on it it's not shallow
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you know i mean like i'm not gonna like down myself for not knowing these things i am only like
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a sophomore in college i'm still trying to figure out the rest of the world like just okay here i'll
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help no i like would you be upset if a man spent fifty dollars on your wedding ring um
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yeah what about you um i how much should a man spend on the wedding ring i don't really know
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what would be like a cap amount but like probably less than 500 because weddings cost a lot of money
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life cost a lot of money but i don't actually know a good number to say yeah i don't really
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like the idea of a ring at all i think it's like a tradition i don't need in my life unless he really
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wanted to i don't know there's something about it it's like oh we're comparing our rocks like i don't
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know i don't also i'm sorry i want to add just really quick that i wouldn't see the value in the
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money i would see it in like what if he knew me well enough to like get the right gold or the silver
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like that type of thing yeah i think the value is more in like the actual action of it and it's
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way bigger than a ring like the fact that you're proposing to me and want to spend the rest of your
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life with me is way bigger than the cost of a ring holy shit did anybody just see kiki's head move
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did anybody else see that just kidding okay anyways sorry i was trying to what about you uh how much
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should a guy you've been married twice how much should a guy spend on a wedding ring and how many did
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your two husbands spend on my first one my mom bought the ring because he was a book the second
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one i think about three grand so i would say no more than like two grand what about you our little
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communist senorita um yeah it's like an act of love so hunter donated one hundred dollars i better get
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a dm too he only tipped two hundred dollars i tipped one thousand five hundred dollars and this is my
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first night watching the show again hunter slayer uh you when i say dm me dm at whatever on instagram
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not my personal ig thank you hunter i appreciate your patronage tonight thank you go ahead it's like an act
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of love so i definitely want a big act of love i feel like she wants a big act of love
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okay with like you fucking degenerate capitalist she wants absolute how much i'm sorry i'm sorry
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capitalist materialist i think like i'd be happy with like 50k 50k the fucking the fucking communist
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capitalism it's always the communist oh my god bro she wants the most wedding ring what do you
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fucking what kind of communist are you i don't know i guess a bad one but like i'm not getting
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married like like it's like an act of love you know what i mean and why would i want a small act
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so you put your political beliefs aside for that moment hunter donated one hundred dollars
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only for deaf curex is at the spot uh what is that what i don't know kerk's kerk's kerk's kerk's
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kerk's okay uh here's the thing she's a capitalist when it benefits her and a communist when it
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benefits her no but it's like if i'm getting married to someone like i know that they're
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gonna have expectations on me too which is probably more like look based for me to maintain like
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staying in shape and you know like being attractive and i think that needs to be like
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compensated but like if you live in a communist society you can't do that
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because everyone gets paid the same communist society so now you're happy with it though
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wouldn't you rather yeah i would be happy with that and then you know what if you get nice things
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in a capitalist society go ahead sarah wouldn't you rather him spend some of that money on like
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a house like i don't know i just feel like that's a waste money personally it's just a ring
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like you could put that towards like your children's tuition in the future you can put a
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down payment on a house she wants a million he'll be rich hello i think she wants a million
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now right so it's like so much disposable income that he can do all the providing plus
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waste a bunch of money on a wedding ring that costs 20 to make um didn't you say like your love is big
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so you need to be like 50k wouldn't you would you agree that you want your love to be priceless
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10 000 plus and therefore the price of the ring wouldn't matter like you know what i mean like
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people show acts of love all the time and i like big acts of love and i think in that sense like
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in the context of a ring like but if it's priceless it could be any price like if you if
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you see your love is priceless no i mean on a baseline there is a price and it's 50k and up i guess
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a specific number okay 50k and up really really son maybe you should pay for the ring how about
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that you ever think of that yeah 50k you gotta pay for the ring you gotta get down on your knee and
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no yeah no yeah yes yes yes no i'm not paying for the ring
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if you've done porn like can you really ask for uh for a guy to get it down on one knee and pay for a
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ring yep like if you really i feel like you just you gotta you just gotta own it and just be like
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look i'm not traditional just fucking okay if i was your soon-to-be fiancee i'd be like here's a ring
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pop and just throw it in your direction oh that's why we wouldn't get married and you're not the type
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of person that i would look for if you were to consider your options um i don't want to assume
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anything about your current relationship but i would assume that being sleepy bear donated one
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hundred dollars i spent more on this message than my wife's ring our commitment is more
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important to both of us she's the best woman a man could ask for well then why are you just sitting
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here watching a podcast and giving money like that's just like why would you not give that money
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care more about me than your wife you go pay attention to your wife and send these girls
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online maybe she's out and about his commitment to his wife transcends transcends first off the
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fucking diamond business is a big fugazi it's a fucking to your credit it's a fucking corporate
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corporate psyop wait what's the term for it it's a contrived it's contrived corporations have
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fucking told you oh you gotta buy a ring blah blah blah diamonds do you know that they what's they
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called they diamonds are actually quite uh abundant but they intentionally uh what's it called they
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intentionally restrict the flow restrict the supply to like uh you know diamonds are not that uh rare
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i heard that if you release all the diamonds in the world that they will be super valueless yeah
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that they very little value i think like tanzanite or is that right tanzanite is the most rare stone
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it's only found in tanzania which is like 100 times more rare than any diamond look same with valentine's
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day which is coming up all these fucking bullshit holidays it's all to fleece your money it's so that
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you can put money in the pockets of corporations so they can take your money and fleece you she's
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laughing but sounds like you hate capitalism no i don't i i don't the problem with that i don't
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hate capitalism i hate i hate uh what's the fuck what's the term uh i hate excess
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corporate consumption excess excess consumerism uh there's another fucking term that's uh
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uh maybe materials materialism materialism materialism consumerism uh corporations have
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sold you on these holidays so they can sell you fucking chocolate and flowers and
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fucking hallmark bullshit cards uh yeah it's all uh it's all i agree but have you guys do you guys know
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the the movie casino with robert de niro joe pesci uh at the very beginning of the thing all the bright
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lights all the fucking games and the the comp tickets it's all for them to take your money
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that's what vegas is about it's all to take your money and that's what
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fucking the the diamond industry they want to tell you this
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yeah i'm saying it in a kind of humorous way he's cooking i'm cooking there's a lot of industries
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like that it's true you sound like a conspiracy theorist though well it's not a conspiracy
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earlier this is this is fucking uh capitalism 101 find a way to take their money it's awesome i love it
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but you shouldn't be a sheep donated 100 here is how the ring thing works the ring grows with their love
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the first ring i bought my wife 25 years ago was 150 upgraded 10 years later 5g last upgrade was six
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figures you have to earn it with time that's fair i like that that's a good system that's good thank
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you doc wait why because you didn't spend more than 150 on a way to be fair he's married you're not
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yeah because i don't want to be married yeah i feel like it's within your means like 150 could be a
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lot to a lot of people yeah but if you can't afford more than that you shouldn't be getting married
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doc vanabless is like 89 years old that's probably inflation son that's probably right inflation 150
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i will be offended personally sleepy bear donated 100 he's back exactly i do care more about you brian
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than the diamond industry not that it is saying much my love for my wife isn't measured in money
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exactly she's here watching with me keep up the great show brian w's in the chat for sleepy bear and uh
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and his wife mama bear i guess thank you sleepy bear appreciate it uh w's in the chat for uh the
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the uh patronage and um thank you sir thank you uh okay we have one i'm gonna come back to the bowing
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though don't think i've i got i had you guys in the trap don't think i forgot the chill 808 for something
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to have worth it must have value if you give yourself away as a man or a woman then ask for someone to
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find you worthy you will end up with unworthy relationships who treat you worthless exactly
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that was beautiful chill 808 you're so poetic dude chill 808 fucking poet shakespeare in the flesh thank
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so you think it's sexist to uh want your girlfriend to bow i was making a joke because we were laughing at
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the video i know you were you were joking no i'm i would be so like in love with a woman that bowed
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for me why bro it's so based why are you why are you smiling like that while you say it it's the best
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form of it's respect yeah why you battle the god not another person you can bow to your master like
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your martial arts master or you can show a woman can show you respect in so many better ways than just
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like what do you okay fine like what fine she can rub my feet and do my laundry that's why i know
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you're joking no i'm serious bro no i know i'm saying ask my ex ex ask my laundry you can replace
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bowing with doing your laundry i know you're joking no i i'm actually serious don't get me wrong i don't
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need a bow but if a girl she's getting major brownie points if she's bowing i just feel like how could you
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i might even spend two hundred dollars on a ring if she bows for me what why would you why would you
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want to look at another human being and want them to bow to you i feel like they're just not like
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probably why why don't you why don't you want that in your relationship this is why you're literally
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laughing no i'm being serious would you bow to your woman brian no what are you fucking crazy what
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do you sarah are you fucking crazy are you saying you don't respect her love her oh i love her i
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respect her highest when she bows i'll say good girl okay all right let's go on what okay god relax
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guys relax you guys know you like okay whatever guys go to whoa whoa hold on hold on hold on let me
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finish my point here you object sarah and i think you objected and do you object alissa would you bow
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if we were dating doc vener billy is donated one hundred dollars okay brixen i'm jen eggs i know
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you're not 80 yet and blondie if you can't understand the significance of the ring you might as well
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start investing in non-perishable cat food okay here you go sarah you're right you're so right no man
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could ever want me because i don't want to ring from walmart like that's like basic standards that's
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not even crazy i think you know 20 ring amazon is doable wait so okay would you bow wait where was
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i going with this would you bow like give you a curtsy if yeah i mean that's a half measure
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like when we're dancing like like show me your curtsy let's see i'll see if it's acceptable and if
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it's acceptable we can talk like that wait one hold on just one sec let me add a
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a little extra thing here can you say my lord while you're doing it go ahead okay let's see it
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it my lord it's good curtsy's actually a great compromise yeah curtsy's very elegant what would
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you would you curtsy would you do curtsy i like that if we're dancing yeah of course uh no dancing
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into the mic sorry um what about the my lord no lord there's only one lord it's very game of
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throny oh my god it's you know lords not yeah i know but i'm not gonna say that to someone else
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i'm in a relationship with that's class sorry okay all right but okay look you guys you guys
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want a guy to get down on his knee you want a man to kneel and i think kneeling that's
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way lamer than a bow a kneel what does that mean there's so many different traditional things that
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don't actually equate to reality like for example there's like tradition of like women wearing white
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on the wedding day but men don't necessarily wear white but there's no reason why okay the actual
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like we're talking about the actual movement think of the actual movement bro it's way more
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weak okay it's very submissive getting kneeling you're looking up yeah oh baby it is it is gay
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kneeling yeah kneeling yeah i think you asked that you asked the woman's father for her hand in
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marriage and then that's it what's that you agree to it no kneeling and then you buy the wedding ring
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it's just very submissive though what's the what's that quote about kneeling i'd rather you ask the
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woman's father for her hand in marriage then live on my knees no that's what i'd do but you only
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kneel once right but the bow would be and that kneel the kneel forever forever means a submission
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to your wife it's like begging on your knees like please can i do one bow and that be the forever
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to be fair that is the one time the man puts himself in that position yeah and it's a pretty
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important so that's like why it's significant because he's pursuing the woman and then when
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she divorces him he's on both knees he is broken i thought he meant he is broken by the woman he
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actually never gets up off that knee he stays on that knee the whole time at last at last he gets
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down on both knees because he is broken by the woman the white man knee at last
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what am i doing i'm channeling something that might get me cancelled here
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she you you divorce the man you divorce the man and then he ends up on both knees
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why are you so pessimistic brian who hurt you well i'll tell you that uh here's the thing right uh
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when uh if she chooses she can a woman even if she's christian even even if she's catholic
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she reserves the right at any time to become a feminist and then divorce the man and then
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she can get alimony and all these other things and financially ruin him and uh
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it's not about who hurt me it's about seeing that when religious women
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get divorces they don't go to god they don't go to their priest they don't go to a pastor they don't
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go to the church the state presides over your marriage not your religion and you will seek
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recourse through the state and the state is going to say well community property alimony
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do you have any do you have any suggestions on how uh religions intend to um uh address the
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absolute corruption of the state of the family court system in this country well actually christian
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marriages like the high statistic of people who stay together are a man and woman who pray together
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every single night like there's statistics that show like christians who are actually practicing
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their faith they stay married well the study at least marital problem the study you're referencing
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about like something like one percent of or um the divorce rate is one percent among uh christian
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couples who pray together i don't know how frequently they pray but they pray together i believe that was
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done in the 1990s dustin underscore estimated 100 alissa is marriage material modestly dressed
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conservative feminine and apparently humorous with the curtsy i throw my hat in for position
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of husband number three coffee and chat for our first date do you accept like dustin are you more of a tea
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tea you prefer tea no i'm a hot chocolate type of hot hot cocoa if he are you down though can by the
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way i want to just say dustin um he he saved me from a uh like a raccoon attack once yeah that was
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crazy yeah it was wild so i co-sign as a charity for lost dogs yep we'll see oh so the study you referenced
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i believe it was in the early 1990s which was over 30 years ago very long time ago uh a lot has changed
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in the culture since then chiefly social media dating apps and the proliferation of uh only fans right so
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the dating marketplace the landscape hellscape has totally changed so the study that you referenced is
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is so outdated i don't think it can apply to modern day um i think that if you're like a christian with
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a relationship with god and that's what your marriage is based on you're not going to be participating in
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only fans sorry right but and you're not going to be you know watching porn or like that's what having
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a relationship with god is if you're actually pursuing your faith and taking it seriously so i don't think
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those types of marriages have a high chance of divorce but i know you're an atheist so you probably
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do have a high chance of divorce brian am i an atheist from what you've said on this show he's been
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reading he's been reading i look i i'm a man of god however but you don't have to get married i don't think
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anyone has to get married or anything i'm a man i am a man of god however the state of marriage is untenable
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untenable for men in the west and women no well it's where do you look for the women that you're
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pursuing where do i look yeah like passport bros they're going to different countries
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yeah so if you if you're only looking at the women around this like every time you have a show
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nickelodeon donated one hundred dollars yeah alissa seems okay i'm a chad engineer that likes
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demeaning my gfs can i get in line for husband number wow alissa is really popular
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okay she's have you sworn off marriage is it are you just done with marriage i'm i jesus would have
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to walk me down the aisle at this point guys grow a beard and grow your hair out that's the only way um
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um yeah i mean who said passport bros was that yeah i've been referred to as a passport bro many
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times really for coming to the i thought people are fling because last year for example i traveled
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to like maybe like 20 different countries or so and i did do a little bit of dating
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here and there and then people often ask me what's the mo what is the best sort of nationality for a
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woman and i've come to the conclusion that it's a woman who fears god that's it because if you date an
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atheist woman then she just doesn't have the sense of accountability and she doesn't understand
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the relationship between man and woman she doesn't understand what it means to be in that unity
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and but if you date christian women they're really aware of it like really lucidly aware of it so
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i'd say that you're probably right about that but i mean maybe this this study would have um
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been a bit well yeah marriage is like a really difficult thing so honestly i just don't see if you
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don't have god at the center of your relationship yeah i think it has a really high chance of
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failing for both sides well i mean i can think of some examples but uh it's not clear to me if uh
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even people who are devoutly religious at any time you can always change your view on things
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you can always you as women you reserve the right to become a raging liberal feminist at any point in
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your life you'd mess up so if you if you're with a really christian woman for example like a woman who's
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waiting for marriage and then a few years down the line she becomes a raging feminist
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you are a terrible like read of character because it like those values are something that are really
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sort of fundamental to the person and it takes like a lifetime of training to sort of get yourself
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there and to then turn it around it'll be like a massive spiritual shift for that person
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i mean there's a lot of chance of that happening so i don't think your argument is very valid like
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you're just talking like yeah a person can become anything with time but can you google the divorce
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rates amongst among the various religious groups i'm just curious yeah well you mentioned before
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like nominal christians though yeah like i don't even think those statistics would be valid i'm talking
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about an actual spiritual relationship with god where they're pursuing anyone can say they're christian
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or even go to church so they can still you know be watching porn on the side look that's fine the
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reality is is that the divorce industry is a i don't know if it's it's a billion dollar industry
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um there's you can pull it up nick uh could you make it a little bigger and make us smaller
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yeah that's probably a little easier marital status can you make it bigger yeah uh that's fine
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uh buddhist uh divorced okay scroll down evangelical protest wait but hold on scroll up what's the
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title of this marital status is there something just for we'll keep it here um divorced 14 for
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protestant next hindu small historically black protestant 19 jehovah's witness 12 jewish 9 mainline
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protestant 7 muslim 8 marmon 7 unaffiliated religious nuns is unaffiliated atheist or yeah
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religious nuns usually means i think unaffiliated they're less
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snake donated 100 for the rings i bought my wife a 400 ring after x years of marriage i got her a
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thirty thousand dollars ring she was with me when i was grinding and she's rewarded when we're coasting
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gold ding to your own grave and gold ding to your own grave and gold ding gold digging gold dig
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bummer life okay well that's nice of him you know he upgraded the ring i don't think it's gold digging to
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want a man who's financially stable enough to afford it it's a waste of money you can be financially
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stable and then if anything it shows your financial like stability by choosing to like
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buy something that's less expensive because you know it's not necessary yeah it's practical because
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like you don't need a ten thousand dollar ring but like you could have ten grand in the bank but it's
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like i'm not gonna spend that on a ring i'll spend it on something useful you know what i mean like
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especially if no one's bowling in this situation you know yeah but you can be well off enough to get
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married and like provide and have a family and house and all these things and not give someone
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a ring that's more than it's necessary i don't know i would just question if a guy can really afford to
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you know pay for part of a wedding a house you would know that you could know his finances and
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yeah you would know his finances without being like oh if you can't afford a ring that means you
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don't have yeah well i would just think he doesn't care that much but they're also if he's in his uh
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if he spends like 100 i'm not even saying i think you should spend ten thousand i think that's
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ridiculous i'm just saying a hundred dollars just seems kind of tacky but if he's in his mid to late
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20s um there's also an element of investment that you want to sort of back a good horse because if
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he's a guy who has potential in 10 years time to be something quite special and women can normally
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sort of pick that then that's a good investment as well whereas in in their 20s they might not be
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but they might have a really fierce entrepreneurial fire about them that you can see but it's probably
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better to go for a guy like that that doesn't have as much money now but he's got a lot of
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ambition than a guy who's sort of just coasting into a sort of a ceiling job so it's another thing
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to think about i would agree but i also think you probably shouldn't get married to a woman
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if you couldn't like potentially provide for a house absolutely but that isn't that's not part
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of the ring question though like would you personally buy a ten thousand dollar object
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when did i say ten thousand okay sorry like a thousand dollars i'm just saying not a hundred dollars
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like i'm saying not because when i think of a hundred dollars i think you go to walmart and like
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there's just no thought effort put into that at all like i want a man who wants to put effort
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and you know get me something nice like you only get one i mean these i guess you can say oh i'm
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upgrading the ring later but it's still like a pretty special thing i'd want a man to put a little
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bit more effort it's like super cheap low effort no yeah i think it should the effort should be shown
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in the ring and how like they pick it out like it actually matches who you are obviously you've heard
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the stories of like guys getting a girl like a gold ring and she only wears silver her whole life
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and it's just like oh you don't know me well that's a different conversation than like did you spend x
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amount of money equals your love for me you know true look if you if you love each other you don't
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need to spend um tens of thousands of dollars on a wedding ring to show it uh if you don't love each
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other no amount of money will change or improve your relationship and the whole wedding ring thing these
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holidays or you know valentine's day which is coming up it's got nothing to do with love i mean
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it's just a commercial gimmick that's manufactured by corporations compelling men sometimes women too
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to spend money on things they neither need nor want and i think it's kind of it's actually
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counterproductive too because it almost makes it sound like men should only be romantic on this
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random day that like hallmark decides rather than like you should just be romantic all the time like
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like don't let's get back to the bowing though let's get back to the bowing okay first off
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look again again i gotta tackle this y'all want to do to kneel but you won't bow we can talk about
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what we're giving him like we're giving him like we're literally using our bodies what's that quote from
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who's the what's the quote with the whole i'd rather live on my knee wait what is it i'd rather
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die on my feet than live on my knees i'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees
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who said that chat anybody in three seconds what is the proposal that was like nothing though
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loose energy donated 100 these feminists have such a problem with bowing but we'll let chad's
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slash tyrone's nut on their face hey you stole this from you stole this from me cats brian abdul is
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sending a large order of rocks hashtag free nick number eight at 18. get the rocks yeah get the
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rock get the rocks oh free nick i don't think that's fair because the people who are answering that
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question are the ones that are in that industry i i coined this a couple shows ago but you well you'll
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have women typically like more liberal women who like but they're feminist right who like i don't need
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no man and like would never be like recoil at the thought of being submissive to a man or um
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doing a battle for example not even about they just don't they want to be independent boss babes they
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they're not open to following the man's lead being submissive whatever
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they will gladly let a man come on their face though what the fuck like i just want to bow but
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oh you'll let a dude blast like would you bow you wouldn't power yeah honestly if somebody asked me
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like yeah i mean i can be like pretty submissive like okay all right it doesn't apply to you but
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there's definitely like women out there who are like i don't want to do to come on their face but
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oh no he wants a bow an innocent bow that's where they draw that's where they draw the line
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i love the bow thing everybody is very upset with the bowing i don't know i think it's kind
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of hot like the bowing thing like i think it could be like a hot thing i don't know all right she's
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redeemed her the communist has redeemed herself but you also don't have like mutual respect views with
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your partner right like they you're out with other guys while he's at home so like i feel like
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that opinion it only goes so far in the sense of like what you would or wouldn't do it's okay it's
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a w i'm just saying you've got a w on this one i hate to do this but i have like a really long drive
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we are give us five minutes we're gonna i promise we're wrapping up here in just a sec i didn't want
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to be that yeah no i'm just gonna read a couple things and then we're gonna wrap uh curtis leone brian
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in keeping with the show hold on let me pull it up brian in keeping with the show theme today you're
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sentenced to soviet gulag for 10 years but you can get released if you breed leila and she gets to
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broadcast it live on her of would you do it i mean this is such a great curtis you send me these
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scenarios he dms me once a week these scenarios with this girl named leila who's been on the show
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who i she just i mean i've turned her down uh it was she was doing a bit but basically she's done
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uh content with a man she's had sex with a man on camera and for me that's a deal breaker like you
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there's no going back from that so um he's asking me what if i was would i have sex with her
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if i was in a soviet prison camp for 10 yes i would to get out of 10 years of
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fucking hard labor in a soviet gulag in the in the where's the cold area of russia
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siberia thank you uh yes i would i would have intercourse with with leila it's disgusting
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wait what's disgusting you would do that you give away your soul
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bro send this girl to the gulags let's see what she's let's see what she's ready to do to get out
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that yes i would have i would have sexual intercourse and he said breed so yes i would
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i suppose i would impregnate uh that would be another form of slavery i suppose a little brian
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running around little little little brian okay um but yes i would really you wouldn't do the trade
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she'd be offering it up on a period siberian hard labor camp is my soul never i don't even know who
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that is how i'm trying to think what would be the course what about if it was brian
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what the wow oh that's uh thanks jake thank you appreciate it soviet go like it is
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i gotta push back a little bit on this hold on so you're okay just to debate you wouldn't have you
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you wouldn't you wouldn't have sexual intercourse with me to get to get out to get out of siberian
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hard labor prison are you marrying me first yeah sure why not okay i'll do that oh so that's that's
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the that's the the what's it called he said sure why not i guess i can marry you um it's proviso
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yeah get her a good ring should we open this up to the ladies like would you ladies no to get out
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of hard labor bro these it just doesn't make you know it's funny i've done like i i did a social
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experiment way back in the day where i i had like legit a thousand dollars cash on me and
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well i go the social experiment was as a woman are you willing to shave your head for a thousand
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dollars oh never right no i i don't think that's totally unreasonable but like when when i that's
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all i had on me for the social experiment to see if any women like literally here's cash pay you a
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thousand bucks dudes dudes would do that for a hamburger um should they probably do for free
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yeah free haircut let's go uh but then i like i hypothetically kept bumping it up and there were
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literally women who said they would not shave their head for a million dollars i kid you not which to me
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is like the most no offense ladies is like the most brain dead fucking how like you wouldn't shave
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your fucking head for a million and then i asked them well what do you do for work oh i i'm a server
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i make 17 an hour i'm like so you're saying you're you would what would take 10 minutes of time and you
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could buy the fanciest wig and you would regrow within a couple years you'd be how much would it how
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much does it take someone to make let's say you make fifty thousand dollars a year that's 20 years
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of labor that you i'm sorry some of you okay it's just that a thousand is different than a million
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no but they turn down the hypothetical million they wouldn't even do it they would not buzz their hair
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off for a million dollars and i want to go around the table on this would you buzz your hair off for a
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million dollars yeah okay all right i probably should have asked that for life yes there's wigs
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yes it goes back 100 sure yeah i shaved my head in high school so okay britney spears over here yes i
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would i shouldn't have gone on my whole that's too easy that's too easy i'm not kidding you though i
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never released the footage because it was kind of like a dumb ass idea i was like oh let's see
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uh yeah it's fine but we have the footage like almost every single woman when we asked for a
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million would you and they said no and i was like okay all right i don't know how i how did we get
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there what were we talking about having sex oh the fucking okay yeah this is crazy like yeah you would
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you say it but you'd probably have yeah okay whatever uh okay we have sleepy bear a ring does
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not reflect wealth you know if your fiancee is financially stable long before ring i bought
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my wife a prairie diamond for three dollars she wears it with pride hey sleepy bear appreciate
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it man thank you very much we have fally coming in here in just a sec
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fally my bad not that layla commands respect with the stuff she said on the panel but my apologies
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for the butchering the name have a good night y'all what's this in reference to i'm not sure
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yo fally appreciate it man thank you thank you we have cj here cj here here's how you can tell
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tell daphne is fake af google her of handle no account needed it says she's currently online her
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post count increased during the show she's making enough to pay a management company to con simps
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explain how that's not fraud i don't have a manager oh hunter donated one hundred dollars
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my guy are you wrapping it up or not you said you were 20 minutes ago you're just reaching now
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wow the girls probably have to get home i just gotta do these chats i don't know what to say to
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that why don't you just stop watching like you don't have to uh did you want to did you want to
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respond to cj here i don't know i don't know what to say i mean do you have a typer
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no i don't know what to say to that okay all right aaron chambers shout out from tuscaloosa alabama
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we may be from the south but we know what a man and woman is i don't join tribes but when i do i
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vote trump 2024 california is the ideologue state no critical thinking i was 12 year democrat then i
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grew up aaron chambers thank you are you talking about comifornia is that or california stan as i
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like to call it thank you man appreciate it okay uh last things here before we wrap um for the
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communist do you have any other hot takes no question for you
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um someone who presents as a woman someone who identifies as a woman can you can you define
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that without using the word woman like can you define woman without using the word woman
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i guess just someone who identifies as a cell okay okay i'm gonna do a rapid fire last
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some hot takes from me rapid fire and then we're gonna wrap up the show and then i want you guys to
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uh respond if you have to um wait hold on and do you do you have a hard out like no no i'm just you
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can you go for another five ten minutes you good i know i said five minutes five minutes ago but
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that's okay i swear i swear okay hold on uh let's see okay if anybody disagrees with any of the following
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feminism is not about equality it's about securing benefits for women
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anyone want to argue with me on that false i mean if you're talking about modern feminism then
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then maybe but true feminism is not well they're hijacking when when was it true feminism in the
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very beginning the very fundamental purpose of feminism what's the definition of feminism
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i disagree though what's the what's the definition of sure well okay i'll give you the most generous
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definition i have of it now what i actually think feminism is is quite frankly a man-hating ideology
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sure i can agree that that's what modern feminists well i think it's always been that way but um
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always what yeah always what happened in the always look up seneca falls you think women wanting to
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vote is like anti-men no that's not what i said i said feminism has and is anti-men has been and is
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anti-man you just think it started off that way absolutely do you think we should repeal the 19th
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no i'm i'm uh i'm not that hardcore i i'm uh i believe women should have the right to vote however
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speaking of the 19th amendment which is kind of related to you're saying that you know
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so the definition oh so okay the most generous definition i get feminism is feminism is a woman's
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advocacy movement it's not it's never been about equality for what women's it's been about women's
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advocacy now feminism isn't is not about equality and here's why feminists will only pursue equality
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if said equality stands to benefit women if if they were they will not pursue some form of equality
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if that equality could conceivably or otherwise would be to the detriment of women here's a perfect
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example in florida the national organization for women one of the leading feminist uh organizations
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very mainstream feminist organizations uh fought against a bill to i believe it was to equalize
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child custody between both parents that would be equality uh that's one example let's go back to
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for example you mentioned the 19th amendment women were able to secure the right to vote without the
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corresponding responsibility which was the genesis of men getting the right to vote which was their
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they're being subject to forced military conscription for the longest period of human history men didn't
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have the right to vote either men got the right to vote before women because they had more responsibilities
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than women did through forced military conscription what happened right before women got the right to vote can
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anybody tell me please in the in the 1910s prohibition like amendment order okay night look from nine uh
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from 1914 to 1918 what happened world war one jake kind of sorry preempted that but that's fine it's fine
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okay so it's very convenient that women waited until after one of the most deadly and brutal wars to secure
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their to uh secure their right to vote well really it was men pushing for women to vote
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well that's not what the suffragettes want i don't think that we should ever men and women are
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different that's it doesn't mean that they shouldn't have the right to vote just because they don't
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have the same exact exact responsibilities as well uh no no but but if we're talking about if you're
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talking about like on a more like social level perhaps i agree with you however what is what is
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put down by the government this i'm failing how you can make an argument that women are should have
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a right provided to them by the government without the corresponding responsibility that enabled men to
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have access to the vote which was through forced military conscription and to this day in order for a
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man to be able to vote in 2024 he must register with the selective service if he doesn't it's a felony
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if he doesn't it's a 250 000 fine it would uh it would preclude you from getting certain federal jobs
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certain government jobs it would preclude you from getting financial aid if you wanted to uh you know
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be able to go to school so feminism has always attempted to secure privileges for women without
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the corresponding responsibilities do you not support the woman's right to vote or do you i do
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okay but you were able to secure it you were able to secure it without the corresponding responsibility
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which is the genesis of feminism i'm asking i asked that for a reason because i want to know why
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you support a woman's right to vote because it occurs to me that that's the egalitarian thing
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and i'm an egalitarian so it is a good thing that women have the right to vote yeah you're trying to
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get me on the gotcha but i believe women should have the right to vote now you should what do you mean
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why well you're arguing that there's some there isn't a corresponding responsibility and therefore
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that's why women shouldn't have had the right to vote at that time but now i'm asking you if if you
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agree with that stance then why do you support women's right to vote now well i it's not that i
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think we need to walk back women's right to vote i think it's an injustice that you did not that women
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were not made subject to military conscription i can understand that you would you would feel that way
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i just feel like there's differences in men and women and the right to vote shouldn't be entirely
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based on that prescription it absolutely should i don't think it should be because there's other
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responsibilities as a citizen that you would have even if i can see you still have the right to
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to speak in our what government so so explain to me what is the corresponding government force that
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is placed on women that coincides that is in some conceivable way commensurate to forced military
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conscription explain that to me there isn't one there isn't one i've already i've already i've already
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pointed out that there's other responsibilities that women have as citizens feminist secured
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we're still citizens in this country is that so we should have the right to vote for other reasons
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besides just one which is the militant prescription but there is no women don't have a corresponding
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there's not this there's not even a social there's not even a civil like a so what's the term for
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uh the civil service women don't even have to do that there is no civil service what is the reason
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explain the reason to me we're different men and women are different but that doesn't mean we
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shouldn't have the equal according to feminists but i'm not making that argument i'm not a modern
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fake feminist they're not true feminists they stand for putting men down and claiming that we should
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have more rights than men that's not feminism so when you say feminist i literally don't hear modern
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feminists i hear original feminism which had a very specific and very simple goal to have equality
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with men in the law and that was the right to vote right but and to eventually like have a debit card
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and have a job and do certain things that right and in today's society there's no right that the man
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has that the woman correct yeah except i've already explained this before but except for the right to
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life we don't have equal right to life okay we already talked about that but again so my position on
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this is that military conscription ought to be equalized women should be subject to military
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conscription do you think having women be in the military like forced into combat and deployed is an
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idea if they're not even like no but here's the difference um first off uh man created uh or
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excuse me god created what is it the holy fuck i'm sorry guys i'm butchering it uh god created
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man unequally smith and wesson uh smith and wesson uh fuck it holy fuck how am i i'm sorry guys
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nick can you google it i've already butchered it maybe somebody in the chat what's the whole
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equalization with smith smith and wesson um women are capable women make excellent snipers women are
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capable of i don't disagree hold on hold on no no no but hold on i i will grant you that yes absolutely
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there are differences between men and women i think though for if if you want to be equals
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women should be subject to military conscription and they can be in support roles
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but not allowing women to be subject to military military conscription is a great injustice i could i
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can see myself being convinced of that you make a good point on that in that aspect but when you're
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talking about like deployable and like the men and women are the same in this regard that they should
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they should both do that in order to have the right to vote i don't agree with but i could i
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could get on board with the last thing you said but then who are we fighting for if we're all just at
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war and no one's home well there's there's people of typically the drafting age i i don't know the
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exact drafting age and who's taking care of all the kids they're not drafting like 35 year olds their
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draft they if there was a draft they're drafting 18 19 20 20 what if they have kids why would you take
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away both parents well i'll tell you this much if there was if there was a draft a lot of women would
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all of a sudden start getting pregnant and actually a funny thing even women who are volunteers in the
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military as soon as that deployment notice comes all of a sudden a lot of women get pregnant
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maybe because that doesn't design no you get a lot of a lot of female soldiers get pregnant
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intentionally to avoid deployment look i just don't think that equates to the right to vote
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but what do you do what do you mean what do i do we're still you can't argue you're not even
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talking about the points i'm making where we pay taxes we're citizens those are still
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like completely equal situations that we have with but okay here we need to have an equal right
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to say as a man as a man any man in this country in order to be able to vote you need to be subject
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to military conscription yes and we are different no yes we are not in this regard well we are women
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ought to be subject to no there's not women yes but you guys did away with that feminists did away
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with it hey don't blame it on me yeah that's not that's not real feminism that's not an accurate
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representation of feminism feminism today says all the kind of things of the antithesis of equality
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so i don't believe that modern day feminists women can women can function in the military i don't
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think that we should be putting women on the front lines but women can be in support roles i already
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told you i i could agree with that right and you should be subject to military conscription and the
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draft and if there ever is one you can be in the support brian i have a question who voted in the 19th
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amendment men or women how's that how's that because women couldn't even vote it in so men did this
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why'd you do that why'd you give well because you're saying by prep i mean i mean honestly
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obviously because only men could vote so it was men who brought in the 19th amendment at the time
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and so you did this to us i mean i don't i don't believe in viewing it as this like
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you guys know that like the original feminists were vehemently anti-christian
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yeah honestly i think it was fine before like i would be totally fine with that if everything
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stayed the same because at that time it was like the man was voting for the household the whole
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doctrine of like anti of feminism in the early days was very anti-christian they thought that
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they wanted to destroy christianity because they thought that the only way to liberate the woman was
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to destroy christianity that's not true for all early feminists there might have been a lot of
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they were also terrorists if you look at like like you can like i've recognized this book before
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there's a book called occult feminism by rachel wilson and she goes through all of the basically like
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the major early suffragettes and feminists vehemently anti-christian much of many of them
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actually practiced a lot of like witchcraft and and like blood magic and all that sort of stuff
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and a lot of them um married very powerful men like like your rockefellas and these sorts of guys who
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would then go and fund these movements to and with the intention in mind of destroying christianity
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and creating a new world religion it's all very well documented so when you say you ideologically
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align with the early feminists would you say that you ideologically align with those people or is
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there anyone in particular who you can i say i align with the original version of feminism do you know
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much about the original version of feminism i don't like susan b anthony yeah i don't exactly i don't
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align with specific feminists who were everything the antithesis of feminism i'm talking about the
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original feminism yeah exactly susan b anthony this perfect example of someone who was a true feminist who
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actually stood for equality was pro-life and said you know we don't need abortion to be equal to men
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but we should have some level of equality in the law and have a right to vote because our vote matters
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and our voices matter yeah but okay so should it okay here's why men got the right to vote before women
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and again for the vast majority of human history both men and women didn't have access to vote you had
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kings and queens and tyrants and monarchs and all this sort of thing so one of the reasons men got
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access to the vote before women and it was a for a very short period of human history uh women caught up
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very quickly again it was because of military conscription if your representatives could send
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just you to war then and not women that was the that was the basis of why men got the right to vote
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before women i understand that but we're talking about a different basis for women you can look at
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other countries and say that you know there's not a right to vote for women for other specific reasons
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and do you agree with a woman not having the right to vote like that's what i'm saying i can't i don't
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know can't speak to the specifics of those countries but sure but that's what makes us unique as the
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united states of america is that we do value freedom you keep trying to get me in a gotcha again i'll
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reiterate again yes i think women should vote but i i'm not trying i'm not trying to walk back the
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women's right to vote i'm trying to say it's an injustice that men are subject to military
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donated 100 dollars she just said you did this to us really men did this to themselves not you
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you got included when you got the right to vote men voted men in tell me you don't know what a logical
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fallacy is look the reality is um i believe i don't know thank you uh sach88 the reality is i mean
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there i do think eventually the i forgot the there's some they've they've tried to bring legal cases
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against this uh discrimination against men when it comes to uh the military draft they frankly it needs to
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be uh equalized are you against that i'm not against it no i could see myself supporting it
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i already i already told you that about your the position so wait what are we arguing about well i
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said that i said hypothetically i could agree with you but but i still i still think that we're talking
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about the difference between the original decision that women had the right to vote and then you're
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talking about like a modern day fix to women being like drafted and everything so we're kind of talking
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about two different no but okay this all stems from me saying that feminism is not a true equality
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movement it only seeks to secure uh privileges and preferential treatment for women so you okay do you
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think that rights come with responsibilities and duties absolutely okay women were able to secure a
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right without a corresponding duty okay corresponding to men but corresponding to the united states government
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we are citizens we pay taxes we have a right to speak and under the constitution yes and
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under the government under the government i can't i i don't know how else to explain this
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it doesn't have to be equal to to yes it does though it does yes it does different that's irrelevant
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equality of the right to vote shouldn't be gender-based there there's litter what's there's a the there's a
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clause i don't know if it's in the constitution or an amendment but the anti is it an anti-discrimination
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hold on the anti-discrimination anti-discrimination in taxation without representation clause anybody in
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the constitution uh what time is it trying to find it hold on
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this whole trope like then shouldn't we just make the argument we could just as easily make
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the argument that men and women are different ergo women should not have the right to vote
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i already agree with you about your conscription no but if your position is that men and women are
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different and that that you you have this women are you know damsels in distress and they're not
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capable of providing providing or assisting in the war effort then at that time in history that's what
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happened so we're either arguing that like what happened was wrong and then therefore you don't
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agree with the woman's right to vote based on how it happened or you do and that's the reality of it
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the women have the right to vote well i can't go back and undo history but like but would you if you
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could no again i you keep trying to get me in a gotcha here because but i'm in favor i'm in favor of
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women voting okay but you don't want them to vote unless they have that but it's it's curious to me that
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women were able to secure a right without the corresponding responsibility
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it could be curious but that's just what happened and i think there's still good reasons to have a
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right to vote even if you're not part of that but i pay taxes i want to be able to vote on on how high
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those taxes are there's other reasons to that you have responsibilities as a citizen to have the right
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to vote so are men second class citizens no they're not well they absolutely are under the under this
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current set they have a different conscription conscription than we do right now but there is no
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corresponding uh government force that that is that like there's no civil service for women there is
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nothing enforced by the government on women that corresponds to males duty to register with a
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selective service and be subject to military conscription right which is why i agreed with
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your your suggestion to do that otherwise we could also just get rid of it entirely obviously that's
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just a right view but i you okay you offered this up in rebuttal to me saying that feminism
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has never been about equality it's been about uh women's advocacy and securing benefits for women
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would you agree that women being able to get the right to vote is a benefit i think it's a moral
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it's a responsibility it's a right it can benefit you you can't benefit you it's honestly directly
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a benefit okay so am i wrong to state that women were able to secure the vote without the corresponding
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responsibility of being subject to military conscription the way that men did that's a
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historical fact so regardless of whether men and women are different which i agree with you we are
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you're trying you're offering that up in rebuttal to my statement that feminists attempt to secure
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rights for women without any corresponding responsibility one example if you want to we
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could talk about other things besides voting we've spent all this time on voting do you have any
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other examples of things that women are trying to fight for i'm trying to think if there's anything
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else uh well i gave you the uh not the uh national organization of women example with uh feminist
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organizations will frequently fight uh when it comes to like the family court system they'll fight for uh
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presumed 50 50 custody for example yeah i don't know i don't necessarily agree or disagree with that i mean i
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i haven't really looked into that as much but i don't think that one feminist organization of our
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modern day is representative of a true feminist movement okay but again i said that my view of
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feminism feminist feminism is not an equality movement because it's always about securing benefits for
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women what do you think is the current modern modern feminist of you is that the same thing you don't
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think that yes because here here's why what would be equality equalizing military conscription in this
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country so that's pretty much your your big crux like that's what you care about the most is this
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is the military that's a major they go to die at war so it's pretty important absolutely but that
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it that's a major i mean i'll give you more i'll give you i mean i want men not to do that then
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like go to war are you a pacifist well here's the because of course war is bad but i recognize that
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no you can never get rid of the draft because conceivably there could be some some uh scenario
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on the world stage some military conflict that would require a draft to occur so no and it's not
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even politically tenable to ever get rid of the draft frankly it will never happen so we must equalize
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the draft in the name of equality okay seems like you guys have been agreeing this whole conversation
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yeah i've already agreed with that aspect of it if that was actually put forward are you putting
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forth that legislation are you working on that right now because i would maybe i'm a podcaster i know but
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you're but you're very passionate i'm saying maybe you should i advocate maybe i frequently advocate for
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men but the point i'm trying the point i was trying to make is that feminism is not an equality
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market because it should one sectillion one hundred and eleven sextillion one hundred and
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eleven quintillion one hundred and eleven quadrillion one hundred and eleven trillion one hundred and
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i'm just confused because you're you're trying to fucking we're just going back at it you're
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literally trying to argue with me i like i'm pretty sure we mostly agree the reason why i'm
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feminist is very straightforward it has nothing to do with that i think you're not even like
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listening to what i'm saying i have a pretty coherent worldview and i agreed with you and
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i'm saying you should put it into legislation because you keep bringing back the historical
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aspect but you're like change history like i'm just acknowledging that history happened
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and i'm giving you a reason why it i'm holy fuck i am saying i am saying that feminism has never been
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an equality movement because if an if if fighting for inequality could conceivably
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come at the detriment of women aka being subject to military conscription feminists will not push
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for said equality they will not fight for said equality if the equality does not benefit women
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and that's that's evidenced by the fact that even back in 1920 women secured the right to the vote
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without a corresponding responsibility of being subject to military conscription and it's still
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the case in 2021 11 quintillion 11 quadrillion 100 and 11 trillion 100 and 11 billion 100 and 11 million
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one hundred and 11 donated one hundred dollars jesus christ deep breath
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i'm gonna read some chats thank you jay jorgensen welcome to 2024 brian women pick and choose rights
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during a challenge men cannot thanks okay which rights are we talking about what do you mean what
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right we were we only have talked about the right to vote we could talk about any other talk there's
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a whole bunch um let me think here uh this isn't really something that's this is more on like a
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social level not a government level but for example well i mean you could actually make the argument
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that we've outlawed female genital mutilation but uh male circumcision is absolutely legal so i mean
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it's uh it's uh it's not circumcision is not something that's like enforced by the government
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but it is legal under the government to circumcise young uh excuse me uh baby boys um and uh so uh i think
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uh i think um i mean i'm i'm against uh male genital mutilation so on that's more on like a societal
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level something that's uh a differential there's definitely like cultural reasons for that so i
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think that's kind of a bigger culture it's probably a bigger conversation that has nothing well it does
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have anything to do with government but we have david mcfarland sounds like she has a phd in gender
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studies well it could be related to the government because we could outlaw um circumcision but we don't
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but we've outlawed female genital uh circumcision yeah that's true so perhaps it should be uh david
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appreciated man uh she does she have a phd in gender studies that's a good question on praxis
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brian the draft is a very weak argument south korea has an actual men only draft the selective
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service system is not the draft much bigger injustice is paternity fraud when has a woman ever
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paid child support for another woman's kid never well absolutely paternity fraud is uh uh catastrophe
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absolutely terrible that's not really something that's uh totally related to rights in the
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government although there can be things where like for example let's say a man uh signs the birth
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certificate and he's assumed that the child was his and he raises the child as it was his after a
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period of a certain year let's say you at year five you take a paternity test and determine
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provably with genetic dna testing that the child is not yours you can still be forced to pay
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child support even if the kid is not yours because you for a period of time you acted as if the kid
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was yours and uh that that in the law like if you i don't care what the situation is if you think the
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kid's yours but it's not you should be free you should not be subject to child support if the kid is not
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yours um so that's that's a good one praxis um i will say though i think the draft is a fucking
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major argument actually it's a huge argument and you guys say well there hasn't been a draft in a while
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uh we got freaking what's look at what's going on in the world in in the middle east ukraine
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uh i think we're closer to a worldwide conflict today than in any time in the past i don't know
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i don't know 20 30 years uh so uh i think the draft is actually a very strong argument um anyways
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let's see we have other chats here we have matthew lee rights are socially constructed women should not
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have any right to vote because they are not able to enforce anything as the enforcement arm is men
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the right to vote came along with drafting as well that's from matthew lee that's not true
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what do you mean what is the enforcement arm this isn't this this is i'm gonna just i'll be devil's
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advocate on this this is a take from andrew andrew wilson so uh like all these feminist positions i
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don't i feel like i'm not the best person to actually articulate this but um like who enforces
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rights enforces them like the judicial system right what do you mean like in like our women
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like police women women as a group versus men as a group like who for example i mean again this is
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the argument is that rights are in rights are enforced by force and that men have a monopoly
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on force so if you can't actually enforce the rights then you actually are you talking about
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like on a minuscule level like police or what are you talking about no just in general like if you if
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you strip everything back men have a uh monopoly on force so what is that can you give an example
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you'd have to ask ask andrew it's on i don't believe in a patriarchy like in the entire culture
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but what you just said sounds like you believe in a patriarchy like there's like overarching like
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men okay so i do believe in patriarchy yeah oh you do so yeah yeah oh okay sorry again this is not
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uh this is not an argument i make but it's he's kind of echoing something that i've heard andrew wilson
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say is basically if all the men decided to to stop enforcing women's rights would there be women's
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rights anymore you rely on men because for example if somebody breaks a law who do you rely on to
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enforce that law men typically men with guns like the police police force right well those those fields
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are definitely predominantly male run but that doesn't necessarily mean there aren't any women in
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it okay let me ask you a question i don't think that our rights are given to us by men and again i'm
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not saying we should i'm not saying we should get rid of women's rights but simply as a thought
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experiment if all men just banded together in the supposed uh ultimate super form patriarchy and
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said we're gonna walk back women's rights and we just banded together as men collectively would men
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be able to walk back all of women's rights no there's still women out there who would fight for their
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own voice no but it's it's only the constitution who's physically but okay when any it's just we're
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human beings and we want to have a voice in our in our government that's all the right to vote is but
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you realize that everything okay bashful bashful carmy donated 100 what do you think we should do with
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the draft completely get rid of it or should we enforce it for both bean and women the volunteer force
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the u.s has had for the past 50 years has been way better it should just be both men and women um you
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can't get rid of it it's not polit it's not politically tenable it'll never happen there's
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conceivable scenarios where a draft might be necessary thank you for the for the um the message
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almost everything like could if if there's a conflict geez i'm fuck i feel like i'm gonna butcher this
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border dispute between a country and it can't be resolved through diplomacy how did how is that
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resolved by war ask me like my like uh commanding officer position like we deploy the national guard
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i don't know like the military okay which women can be in
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jeez i i i feel like i need to better understand andrew's argument here jake do you do you um think
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that men are stronger than women biologically yes yes okay so then if men collectively tomorrow said
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that we want to take away women's rights you think that they would be able to do that i think there's
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more places than physical strength that can be you don't think that if men wanted to overpower women
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they could they could overpower them physically okay so i think that so you think that women would
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intellectually sort of like defeat men so you're saying like that you're you're implying like an
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actual like physical yes going into houses i'm talking about force before before before we don't
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have rights now you know but before we had ducted sort of heating and air conditioning and apartments
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with you know like all of this amazing plumbing that we've got it was power that dictated how how
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politics would go and it still is to an extent today but if tomorrow all of these amazing luxuries
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that we have was stripped away take away everything they've built to be like oh you don't get no
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this is a thought experiment yeah you have to you have to engage with it you know in a way that's
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like good faith at the end of the day because i hate to be rude but i'm just i mean it's been six
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hours i haven't even madison can take your seat if you want to yeah i don't want to be rude though
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like i don't want to be that person yeah you can leave if i bow would it make it better yeah i mean
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are you looking at me you want me to just keep going yeah we're having a conversation okay fair
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enough yeah i was just saying i think that you have to be good faith with the conversation when
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you when you engage with it because i'm asking you do you think that men have a monopoly on there
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i thought it was just her and her that are leaving yeah sorry it's just it's kind of late
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this is really fun wait before you leave hold on hold on hold on sit down for just a second
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wait a few questions few questions for you you can leave if you want thank you though thank you for
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coming thank you okay all right hold up uh let's see here hold on madison do you want to take one of
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the empty seats um where's my notes here uh do you think you can be racist against white people no
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do you think you can be sexist against men yeah i guess but you can't be racist against white people
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no why so i feel like right now in terms of like gender we're in a really tricky spot when it comes
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to like rights and how things are being handled politically and i feel like i'm not fully equipped
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to like talk about that more in detail but in terms of race in western culture and in the united
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states white people have never been oppressed and racism is backed by oppression so you think
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that because there's history behind other racism do you realize history can start at any point
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it hasn't history can start at any point okay but tomorrow white people are not going to be wake up
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and be oppressed like that's what is racism though can you like who are you saying is oppressed like
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black people are oppressed every minority like how are they oppressed what rights do they not have
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or opportunities or do black people not have systemic racism exists like i don't want to sit here and
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define that like you can do that in your free time i just asked what is racism like just the simple
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definition like what do you think an oppressed racial group no racism like what like how can you
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be racist towards somebody when like there's a million ways to do that like that's a really
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vague vague thing to say like i don't know like
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what do you think about here here's another statement agree or disagree there's no such thing as male
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i disagree men are and have been more oppressed than women i disagree
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do you think that women have more privilege than men do
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so you support you don't think that all cops are bad
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like a c a b is that what they all cops are bad no
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i'm if you want you can wait five minutes like i said i'm gonna wrap up
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i promise i'll wrap up in five minutes i promise guys
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fine here okay 11 35 i got okay okay wait okay so wait we're oh the the whole fucking andrew wilson
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thing um okay if you look at for example like what happened in uh afghani was it afghanistan
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we were in afghanistan women were able to go to school and whatnot
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the taliban the man decide the men decided despite women's desire to be more equal to their male counterparts in afghanistan
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despite their desires and their want for equal rights
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the men by force i'm not saying it's right just a thought experiment here
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okay who well i'm curious who owns more firearms in this country men or women
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do you honestly think that women would stand a chance if it happened tomorrow
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you can exit the feminist mindset for one second and you can be honest with the question and just
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say that women would be totally it's funny wait before you answer she says that well we shouldn't
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have equalized the draft because men and women are different because men are stronger but you can't
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seem to concede on this you can't seem to like use that apply that same logic to this exact same
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scenario which i think is interesting you you acknowledge that men are better suited to be
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but for some interesting reason when it comes to this conversation about
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say there was a civil war between men and women
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if they could overpower us i the only thing i've responded so far is we have the right to bear arms
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but you see the logical inconsistency you've acknowledged that men and women are different
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you say women shouldn't be subject to military conscription because men are better soldiers
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because they're physically stronger for xyz reason so if we're giving you a scenario
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where there's a literally a military civil war between men and women
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yes my answer was what you said that i said the right to bear arms i didn't even go into detail
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i said that are they stronger then you said no no it's like intellectual so you alluded to the fact
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that women could intellectually fight the war right no well you didn't talk about war at that point
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and then i said don't you think that women would be screwed you said no we've got the right to bear
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you were talking about enforcement and i asked about like police what specific thing are you talking
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about and you just said oh well if if we wanted to overpower sleepy bear donated one hundred dollars
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how do you pause and think about your answer but when it comes out it's still lacking logic
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you know the internet is forever right you might want to stop trusting those people that think for you
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i don't know who that is i think i made it very clear i actually said that if we just strip back
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everything and then men collectively tomorrow decided that we want to take away women's rights
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forcefully yeah and that was the that was the hypothetical that you're that you were engaging
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and then i asked before all these things happened i asked like physically like going into people's
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homes and like starting a war and that's where we stopped yeah we didn't really i never really
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finished my take take away the rights because now you guys are saying something that i didn't actually say
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say and i'm saying i completely agree i already agreed that men are biologically stronger that's
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why i didn't agree with so so why did you bring up the right to bear arms then tongue in cheek it's
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literally the idea that we do have a way to defend ourselves will we have a good chance i don't think
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so was it tongue in cheek or are you trying to make a logical argument with that it's totally
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hypothetical it's mostly tongue in cheek but it is true we do have the right to bear arms you do
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have we do have a level of defense but is it enough to like overpower like suddenly every man
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turns on us this is the most random you guys would be would be screwed if that if that horrible
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event were to happen women would be at the at the mercy of men so that's why i'm saying feminism
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is men's fault um okay you guys allowed it it was weak men who allowed it was it not so you don't
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think you should vote guys this is a hypothetical conversation don't clip early this century that's
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totally fine because the man was voting for the household and also since women started voting
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everything started going left that's very true honestly feminism is just to destroy the family
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you want to repeal the 19th is what you're saying no i think it's at at this point it's too late to
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do that now but if like we could collectively start gradually walking back but there's no way that's
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just like not able to happen now i wouldn't all right here i said i would i said i would wrap in
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or women could vote more logically i think we're too far getting rid of the right for women to vote
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we could actually i said i would wrap women aren't very well women are a lot more easily manipulated yeah
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you're not very logical in a good way instead of a bad way i don't understand why we have this
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like pessimistic view of women voting like what well she's saying that after women's had the right
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to vote everything went downhill like why don't we actually more women are pro-choice than pro-life
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because they're easily but we should focus on changing that instead of getting rid of the
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right to vote i'm not saying we should repeal the 19th yeah but you're saying that if women didn't have
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the right we shouldn't repeal the 19th but let's put women on the front line we're gonna put women on the
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front line get your ar brian who thinks we should send women to war just send them into the kids
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just send them into the meat grinder i completely just why are you equality if you believe men and
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women are different why would you want egalitarian if men suddenly overpowered all of us like i would
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have so many less concerns than my right to vote and more like why are all the men overpowering
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here's the actual argument the like totally not trolling argument for why we need to send women to the
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the front lines via the draft we got to tire out the enemy send the women in first and then the men
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can take get them to nag the enemy all right last chat here we have andy andy j white i live in sweden
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and our draft age is between 16 to 70 and includes both women and men combat is reserved for 18 plus but
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those not fighting has other tasks like taking care of the kids etc etc why can't us um drafting both women and
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men um i think you should worry about i have to look into sweden but you have other countries
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which are even more oppressive than for example the united states where they actually have mandatory
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military service for example in switzerland and uh if you don't there's actually really substantial
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penalties uh and women don't have actually if you don't do it as a man there's like you get taxed or
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something there's fees so uh all throughout the western uh west in all countries there's significant
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uh most countries somebody said oh well in israel it's men and women okay well congrats one out of
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what 200 plus countries in the world there's equal conscription and i would can't even beat hamas i
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would i was gonna say how's that working out for them i would still argue they're probably still
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prioritizing men to be in those frontline combat positions so um anyways appreciated man uh
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what was the uh trying to remember what the other thing oh yo guys we're having we're this is we're
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having conversations this is this is just thought experiments and um hypotheticals jake here doesn't
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want to go to civil war with women we're just having thought experiments on things okay uh i don't know unless
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you know no no civil war just thought experiment love women they're the best just want to protect
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debate we're just having debate devil's advocating fucking you know all that stuff okay all right
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