Armpit Hair Feminist vs. Andrew Wilson?! She HATES Brian?! Snitch OR Cheat?! | Dating Talk #199
Summary
In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, we have our first guest on the show, Kayla! She's 22, a hairstylist, DJ, producer, and host of events. She also happens to be a good friend of mine, and I really enjoyed having her on the Whatever Podcast.
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of the whatever channel with that said without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce
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themselves so please tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead my name's kayla i'm 22
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and i do only fans but i also am a hairstylist and i dj and host events okay quite a bit uh what kind
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of music do you dj like techno hardcore also like rap do you produce or just dj i'm learning how to
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produce okay and you said you're were or are a hairstylist yo metro mat thing for the gift of
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20. i am a hairstylist you are a hairstylist yeah i don't work in a salon just like okay do you do your
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own hair yeah okay and you said you do of uh what kind of content do you do on there um mostly like
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solo have you ever done like bg gg content like once like three years ago and sold to one person so
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not really for gg or bg bg okay got it oh and i've done gg once and your sister was on the show
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last week or two weeks ago um kailani is her name or okay and you're the older sister
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and she's involved she doesn't do of but she does findum you do findum too or yes a little bit a
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little bit okay who's who's more successful her she's killing it what's you're the big sister
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what's going on okay well she's doing good because she listened to okay i give everyone
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lots of good advice on how to like when you're 16 get a job asap save us as money as you possibly can
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and then she got kicked out at 16 so like she listened to my advice and had money saved and
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she learned from my mistakes and just listened to my advice and figured out a way to make more money
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she's your full sister yeah wait you said she got kicked out at 16 from were you living at the house or
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this is no i already got kicked out oh you got kicked out i got kicked out at 17 she got kicked
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out at 16. wait why did you get kicked out uh because my dad got me smoking pot wait sorry what
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my dad got me smoking pot oh okay what about uh your sister why did she get kicked out so she got
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suspended from school because she had a vape in her car you get suspended for having a vape oh i guess
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it's nicotine or whatever so um and when you got just curious when you got kicked out of your house
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your parents were they together because you said no separated yeah would you guys like split between
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your mom and dad or uh i did not live with my mom at all my mom didn't fight for custody okay so you
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guys were living with your dad then yes okay got it okay um and then were you like homeless when you
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got kicked out or how did that work um yeah he just dropped me off in a park with um a backpack
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is this like illegal to do can you just do that you know like a week before i turned 18. oh a week
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before you turned 18. so like there's no there's no point in like calling cops because i turn 18 in a
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week you still talk to them now yeah wait sorry what yeah oh it was like i couldn't really kind of
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okay all right uh and you're from seattle right i grew up in arizona but i live in seattle got it
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okay what about you um my name is jules i'm 21 i'm from san luis obispo and my occupation
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is first firstly only fans and then i am a server on the side you're a server on the side yeah uh and you
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do of uh what do you do on of just solo just so long okay got it can i have you scoot your mic this
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way just a tad yeah excuse it perfect thank you and you're from where san luis obispo oh slow okay
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so is that 805 it is okay we had this conversation before it's uh we got a lot of people coming coming
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through here um and then i did have one quick question can we can you pull up her instagram
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really quick i was curious about your instagram uh your name is crunkasaurus we already talked
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about that though but what we didn't talk about you can pull it up was her
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your profile picture is that you in the profile picture in the burka no that's not me oh okay
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okay i was just a bit confused yeah okay just a random picture i found online okay years ago that's
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been my profile picture for probably about four years now you need to recreate that picture with kayla
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here oh i think i think that would maybe not with the the muslims would love it
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can you not can you be like atheist and wear uh technically you can i mean but would you get in
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trouble for it is it like is it considered religious garb uh depends what isn't it like when you go to
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like those countries you're supposed to wear like cover up but is it like religiously sacred within the
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islamic faith like i don't know would they be offended if like a non-muslim war like they'll
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they'll wear it but not unless it was with the intention of mocking their faith yeah okay
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otherwise they don't care okay they wear it when like white girls wear it when they go over there
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okay uh what about you um i'm heather and uh i'm 19. all right and i'm like living near seattle
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so okay and uh what do you do for work oh yeah i do only fans um and i like paint skateboard decks
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okay yeah that's that's it though all right and you grew up in seattle or no i grew up in a
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like near forks area you know on the other side of washington okay yeah is that like the sticks
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it's that's where twilight twilight oh yes yeah okay it's pretty cool okay cool what about you
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hi my name is leah i'm 23 i'm a bikini barista and i also do only fans and where are you from i'm from
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santa rosa california all right bikina bikini barista and you do only fans yeah what do you do on
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of of it's only solo content any bg content no any bg content uh yeah you've done that but only with
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like my partners i don't sell it if we're not together anymore okay yeah all right what about
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you my name is nia i'm 23 i do only fans and modeling all right and where are you from santa barbara
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you're from here okay cool and uh how long you been doing of for for about four years four years
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okay and what kind of content is it solo bg solo yeah any bg no okay all right what about you hi again
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jordan 26 i own a gym and i'm a trainer all right wait 26 26 when you turn 20 i feel like you've been
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26 forever okay all right jake 28 years old rattlesnake tv is my youtube channel and wait jordan
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you want to you want to plug your gym so maybe some you get some signups or what's up wisdoms
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fitness and riverside all right if you're in riverside and you need a gym there it is uh
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andrew what about you my name is andrew wilson i'm 40 i um i own the channel the crucible i'm a
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political analyst political satirist and uh i do debates for fun occasionally all right my name
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is brian atlas 35 over the hill washed up youtuber um has been youtuber uh owner of the what you guys
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are saying you're the owner of the okay owner of the whatever channel host of the whatever
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all right there you have it so going around the table once more what's everybody's current relationship
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status so are you single talking stage situationship friends with benefits relationship
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married polycule sex cult harem whatever it may be if you're single how long have you been single
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and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead single right now were you were
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you single the last time you were on the show no that was back in february right something like that
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early february yeah you were in a relationship then yeah and you wait so you said single as of now
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is that what you said since then yeah oh since then okay how long you've been single for
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seven months at that finger calculator going seven months all right long longest relationship
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it was like two and a half years okay 2.5 years uh okay and uh any guys in the picture currently
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a few yeah a few okay so you have a a roster then i don't like fuck all of them but like um how many
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of them do you i mean that's not what i was asking like i talk to them sure we can talk about that how
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many of them do you fuck not many i just talk to them how many of them are you having you know
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uh can't bring up six bro that's crazy huh keep going i don't know no comment
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okay uh well so how many guys are on the roster then i don't know five five six seven it's not a
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roster though i'm just talking to people yeah no but how many people are you talking to use your fingers
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four i guess changes every day uh what's your orientation
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straight by lesbian straight straight okay tried to be bi tried to be bi didn't work out
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don't like girls sorry all right uh so currently kind of four guys you're talking to what about you
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um i'm currently single currently single yes how long you've been single for about eight months
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eight months all right longest relationship a year one year yeah all right and you're in los angeles
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right no san luis obispo oh okay no you're good listening comprehension uh any guys in the picture
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right now zero zero zero zero it's so lonely so lonely up in san luis obispo yeah there's because
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it's very small out there so we all know each other there's the college though there is the college but
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they're college students well you're 21 right i mean that's your age range oh well i feel like i notice
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a lot of younger ones i mean when i go to the bars yes but i look around in the bars and i'm like
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i would not talk to any of you guys i need i think i need to move what do you mean you would not talk
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to uh any of the guys in the bar yeah i don't find any of them attractive not a single one where i live
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is an age thing they're they're all not attractive is it like an immaturity thing
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okay she needs she needs an e-boy oh just physical attraction you need an e-boy yeah no it's not even
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about e-boys honestly i don't really like e-boys that much goth goth boys no i tend to like more
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normal looking guys hold on just wait just to be clear you're saying there's not normal looking men
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in like country-ish san luis obispo no you're right everyone there is very they're super normal
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i just don't know i don't go to college all i do is go out to the bars and that's all i see
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and you don't want to meet someone at the bar guys are
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none of them are attractive i gotta go to the frat parties maybe but they're frat boys
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i'm just trying to have fun i don't need a relationship
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okay um do you go to any of the college parties the frat parties i do a little bit okay and so
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far they've all been terrible like very nasty they're all very like confined spaces a lot of
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people everyone's super drunk and smells terrible yeah so what what major do you pretend that you
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have when you go to these parties no i'm honest i'm like i don't go to college oh okay yeah they
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don't like make up like no i'm studying this i'm a junior i'm a okay no she can be a different person
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every time 100 so you've not dated anybody in the past eight months no i've like um had weird
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situations yeah what's what does that mean where i like tried to talk to people really only one guy
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and it was so down bad of me just completely why was it down bad i was never truly attracted to him or
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like tim i think that i was just super lonely and he was like giving me attention
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it was traumatizing how many times how many times did you have sex with him once and then i dipped
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and then he got mad at me because i didn't want to be with him even though i'd been telling from the
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start i do not want to be with you so i believe that it was kind of manipulation he knew that
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what he was packing and still tried to like hold me down and claim me amongst a bunch of guys
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knowing what he was packing like it's up wait hold on he was trying to hold you down that
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fucking dead monster no like he claimed me amongst none of his friends will talk to me
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like i i have a crush on a few of his friends and they're like no you're forbidden i'm like you
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can't fucking forbid me you can't what are you talking about how old are you guys he should have
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just let you talk all of these friends right no not not like that well that would be that he has
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a micro penis you can do what you want yeah sure i guess carry he gets it totally thank you yep
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i'm so glad i'm a girl wait so okay hold on i will say his name i'm just kidding
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but i'm confused like why why would uh you said it was traumatizing it was traumatizing because
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i i was never attracted to him but he he was there for me and so i got a little bit of an
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emotional connection and i was like you know what maybe i'll see this out okay i'll see this out slept
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with him absolutely not it was up i'm like why did you keep me from everyone else what like you
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guys only hit once though how how long were you seeing him oh he didn't even hit because it was
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too small is that what you're saying i'm saying that i felt i've never been with a girl but i'm
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going to assume that's what it feels like to be with a girl sorry damn hold on that's wait i got
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that's brutal i'm i'm upset with him that's why don't wait why you can't hold on but he can't help
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he can't help i know and i do feel bad for him but i don't feel bad for him because
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it's just very weird what he did amongst his friends like claiming me not letting any of them
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talk to me that's so weird i would never do that if i was seeing and then and my friends wanted a
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banger i'll be like yeah and ask ask their friends why are they listening to him you're pretty just
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what how are you gonna tell you let your friend tell you what to do it's who you can't be with
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that's you believe these people no i can't honestly these guys are ridiculous yeah how dare he
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want a monogamous loving relationship i know this guy honestly a red flag yeah okay well that's all
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right so okay um but you said it was traumatic like wouldn't a micro peanut be like the least
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traumatic thing like that's the that's the least threatening penis honestly because it was him i'm
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glad it wasn't bigger because i am so unattracted to this guy does that make sense so you're saying if
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it was bigger you'd still be smashing you'd still hit i can't say honestly like i'm just
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i'm unattracted to this guy that's fine um scoot your mic that way a little bit what about you
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oh what was the question again i got too into that conversation relationship status so oh okay um
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i'm single but it like just happened so you recently broke up yeah because i have you scoot
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into the table like scoot the whole chair into the table if you can it's heavy was this uh was
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this a micro penis related issue no no i i actually don't i don't i don't really care about that that
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doesn't matter to me but um i i don't know i'm moving to california and he hates california like a lot
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and i don't know it's probably best for growing wise but it's still he's cool where there's no bad
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terms he's great but i don't know there's it's nothing deep he's probably watching this right now
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okay um and why does he hate california i don't know you ask him yeah i didn't i asked he just like
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just sucks i don't really know why more of a conservative guy is he um no he just kind of
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like wants to live in the middle of the woods and do do like man stuff which is like go him and stuff
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i can't really afford that yet so i gotta move to california and then i can do that for him but
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like we'll see how long were you dating him like a year but that's not even my longest relationship
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what's your longest relationship um it was almost five years five years yeah and we started dating
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when i was like 13 and we broke up when i was almost an adult okay and sir you've been single for
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how long like a week or something no it's been like a month one month two months maybe all right no it's
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been like a month got it all right uh any rebound um no i mean i've been talking to some girls but
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like it's not like a rebound situation it's just a i'm bored situation and flirting is fun but i don't
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think he cares okay all right what about you i am dating someone okay uh boyfriend boyfriend yeah how
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long i think a month how long have you uh i guess known him for two months two months okay
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how did you guys meet a little woody after party uh sorry a what a little woody after party who the
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fuck is that guy he's kind of a rapper oh okay um that's cool and longest relationship a year and a
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half all right and are you guys diddy potty diddy potty how'd you know oh my god it was literally a
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code word no i'm kidding all right what about you i'm single all right how long you've been single
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for for about a year all right longest relationship five years five years yeah and is that the one that
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ended a year ago yes okay uh any uh guys in the picture for this past year no nothing no not even
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a no first date one one date yeah with one guy yeah that's it it was like off and on with that guy
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i'd say when's the last time you saw him like a month ago okay how many times did you hang out with
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him three times three times yeah so it's like a sneaky link yeah okay kind of not really i wouldn't
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say sneaky link no all right we would just hang out go on dates that's i thought you only went on
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one date well those three oh those they were like spread out you only spent the past year you only
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saw him three individual times okay he's not from here okay he's from somewhere else different
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state yeah okay so fairly long distance then yes uh are you guys still talking no if he were to
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come into town today would you see him no so you guys kind of ended your yeah whatever it was
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who ended it me who ended your five-year relationship me why i kind of just got over it um
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a lot of stuff happened so i kind of it was just time to let go when did you start your only fans
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uh four years ago we were together when i started it so about three years into the relationship yeah did
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that create any conflict in the relationship or was he involved in the beginning it did but um
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um i mean i believe if i'm you know paying my bills and stuff that my partner has no say
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um he eventually became okay with it he would actually record and help me with my content so yeah
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okay valid so valid did you do uh were you doing bg content with him or no no just solo okay so he's
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like recording you basically yes okay um so initially you caused conflict in the relationship but then
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he was like did you give him money were you paying him no how much time was he uh committing to like
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helping you with the only fans not a lot i'd say like once a week we'd plan a day try to get as much
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content as we could and then that was it and what was the cause of the breakup
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um like i said i don't know i just kind of got over it um it was multiple things happening throughout
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those five years that led me to just leave so okay um what was like the biggest one of those things
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he had a porn addiction well that's interesting was wait so he was addicted to the kind of content
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that you were making but that caused us to like not do anything with each other because he was
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addicted to it oh like it was no sex yeah dead bedroom yeah so would you try to initiate and then he
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would yeah so i kind of just got over it and left that was like a big issue yeah interesting
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i had a question on this i'm trying to remember what it was okay so he was addicted to porn
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was he addicted to porn before he got into the oom stuff i don't know because no no if you had a gas
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what do you think i think yes i just didn't know at the time yeah so early on before the of content
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started for these like uh connection issues were those still present or did those start after the
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of content um i would say it was like off and on but not as bad as it got afterwards yeah yeah so
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there if that's the case if the connection problem came post of then they kind of the link up in your
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head for the porn addiction could have been post of right that kind of makes sense doesn't it yeah
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yeah so it could be that seems like a pretty strong correlate there right yeah yeah okay yeah
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did you ever like look on his computer and see what he was looking at yes you're latina right yeah
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was it like black porn or anything and you're like what like if it what was it like latina porn
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what was it no it was anime porn oh yeah he's a freaky he's a freaky one
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it looked yeah she said um damn it's like shit i can't compete with some anime posy what the
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fuck yeah exactly you can't compete with that um yeah okay all right
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yeah how are you supposed to is that wait how are you supposed to compete with anime you literally can't
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what what what what did it hit would it hit oh my god am i stroking out today would it have been
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better had he been addicted to like or the the corn he was watching was like some like basic more like
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human porn you know yeah like would it be better or worse honestly i prefer the anime i i kind of get
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it you know yeah i feel like it's worse i don't know if it's like addiction yeah yeah yeah yeah like
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a cartoon i don't know addicted though i don't know that's a little mind-boggling to me okay so
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okay me and me the enemy porn thing though brian so i gotta ask you this yeah it wouldn't that actually
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be when you think about it you're inside the mind of another man's idea of what this what sex is to
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him that's exactly wait well but what what if it's a female who's drawing there's no females drawing
00:28:21.620
no they do no there's not come on there's not there's not there's not but hold on but hold on
00:28:28.900
couldn't we couldn't we say this about traditional corn too because the males are typically producers
00:28:34.820
the cinematographer the videographer in traditional corn it's male so it's their vision yeah i get it
00:28:40.660
i understand that you're saying okay it's their vision for it but you have the actors you have this
00:28:46.020
right so how the actors respond uh there's like an external factor to it from the anime perspective
00:28:53.780
isn't that literally just the visualization in his mind of what sex with other you know
00:28:58.820
two other people is like and so you're in his fantasy right yeah and all the illustrators
00:29:03.220
or whoever's working on the project uh wait one sec we're gonna i need to uh
00:29:08.340
do a little technical difficulty break here for just five seconds
00:29:33.220
all right sorry about that guys a little uh just a little uh you know technical difficulty segment
00:29:46.980
there okay so um relationship status relationship status married married all right how long you've been
00:29:54.500
been married for one year one year all right welcome welcome back all right can i can i just
00:30:01.060
add i'm just curious oh sure it's the age gap with your husband seven years he's seven years older i
00:30:06.820
figured he would be so okay so take the wrong way when you said i own a gym i was like her husband
00:30:12.740
owns a gym her husband owns a gym right i just knew i just had a feeling had to be fair he opened the
00:30:19.140
gym when he was 22 so he was actually quite young for being a gym owner yeah sure but yeah i came in
00:30:24.660
a couple years after i met him when i was 19 i pretty much run all the operations i do all the
00:30:29.700
sales i train majority of the classes so and it's under both of our names now sure but he opened it
00:30:36.900
before we met yes before he met me a couple of years yeah all right all right jake what about you
00:30:42.820
yep single been single for a few years and longest relationship a year and a half
00:30:48.980
andrew what about you um i'm uh i'm happily married um i wrote a book called occult feminism
00:30:57.540
um and by by that i mean my wife wrote the book but i own it because i own her so that's um
00:31:05.780
so yeah that's that's that's where i'm coming from when you say you own her what what do you what
00:31:10.660
do you mean what does that mean oh i mean her last name is wilson it'd be property of wilson
00:31:15.060
enterprises it's um i've never heard you it's a long it's a long it's a long and industrious
00:31:22.580
no of course not it's a long it's a long industrious brand it goes back to the founding
00:31:27.220
of the nation the wilson's have been here and owning women what the hell what the hell where'd that
00:31:36.500
come from that's that's a new one um well if she can own her husband's gym i can own my wife's book
00:31:41.860
brian hey well she probably i don't know is there do you have like an issue no no no i'm teasing you
00:31:46.820
i i i figured i was just making sure but no i have no issues with it i'm just okay all right so uh
00:31:53.940
why don't we get into some of the uh the pre-show notes here we don't have uh i think we'll best to
00:32:00.340
just get through all of it so why don't we start with kayla okay kayla uh you're apolitical you're a
00:32:09.380
feminist you uh i saw in one of your instagram posts it said that you you have difficulty with
00:32:17.140
is it authority and what's the other thing rules rules and authority because you've been you said
00:32:23.140
you were arrested six times yeah what what for terrorism not terrorism um okay one of the arrests
00:32:32.740
was actually i just got detained so that doesn't count right okay okay three of them was when i was
00:32:38.020
a kid a minor so two of them domestic violence because my mom would call the cops on me one of
00:32:43.060
them was because i went to school drunk and then as an adult one vandalism because i vandalized my dad's
00:32:51.380
house and and then um dui 18 because i was i was half under the limit like the legal limit but i'm
00:33:01.060
18 i'm not supposed to drink at all wait a couple questions so uh you said you went to school drunk
00:33:05.540
how old were you 15. all right was it a monday tuesday wednesday i don't remember you don't remember
00:33:12.900
the data okay and you said you vandalized your mom's house my dad oh excuse me your dad's and how
00:33:18.340
did you vandalize it graffiti oh egged it tp did it broke a window why why your dad is iconic as
00:33:25.700
because weren't you living there no that's like that's after i got kicked out oh you got kicked
00:33:29.700
out you went back vandalized the shit yeah because he didn't prove it was you apparently because it was
00:33:34.740
a new house and like the neighborhood is being constructed so like they had like cameras and
00:33:39.620
like construction sites nearby um yeah it's because he didn't tell me he's getting married or
00:33:45.620
invite me to his wedding and then he made my sister or my stepmom made my sister cry and then
00:33:52.740
whenever someone makes my sister cry i go insane because she's my little sister don't
00:33:57.940
fuck with my little sister i'm gonna go crazy okay i like the eyebrow twitch that's like that like yeah
00:34:04.180
there you go uh yeah really drives the insanity home yeah and so uh okay uh drunk vandalism um
00:34:13.860
um when's the last time you got arrested so my ex who has before this happened has beat my ass like
00:34:25.620
three times i never called the cops and then one time he was talking so much shit and he spit in my
00:34:33.460
face like spit in my face and i was like do that again i'm gonna fucking hit you and then he spit in my
00:34:39.460
face and then i finally lost my shit and i just like pushed him like i i don't have i'm not like
00:34:44.740
punching him i'm like pushing him away and all that stuff and then i'm trying to call the cops my phone's
00:34:49.700
not working so then apparently his call went through first and then i got arrested because all he did was
00:34:56.340
spit in my face and because i did admit that i hit him first because he said hit me hit uh after i
00:35:04.500
i spit in his face he's like yeah he said hit me bitch so then i did this is california right
00:35:09.220
this was in seattle this is in seattle now so seattle have one of those uh yeah well the dv clause
00:35:15.540
someone's going to jail someone has to go to jail yeah and because he only spit in my face
00:35:21.540
like isn't that assault yeah but like there's no proof of it i guess so he lied and said he didn't do
00:35:26.980
that and i just hit him first but then i didn't actually get arrested because he knows that he's in the wrong
00:35:32.500
wrong and like even his own like sister picked me up from jail the next day and was like we know
00:35:37.140
you're not the problem and he's not the victim here you just finally like did the state press charges
00:35:43.220
no no he dropped it all okay because he knows that was he all like fucked up bruises on face or
00:35:49.300
anything like that i had nails okay so me just doing that looks like crazy on him because my nails
00:35:55.220
scratched he scratched him yeah but then i got out i mean if somebody like spitting on somebody that's
00:36:05.380
like you're gonna get hit for that you gotta get smacked around yeah you gotta get hit you gotta get
00:36:10.900
uh so that's crazy um and then you said there was dv with your mom not not like i don't know if it was
00:36:18.180
yeah i was just like a moody teenager and i would like throw a fit and punch a hole in the wall and
00:36:22.420
then my mom would call the cops oh but like you said it was dv so like were you hitting her or no
00:36:29.380
they consider that dv if you destroy property wait really you punch a hole in the wall because it
00:36:33.540
gives them like yeah if you break your dishes punch a hole in the wall any of that broke a lamp what
00:36:38.340
if you like accidentally drop that yeah well i was talking to i was talking to a cop i was like wait so
00:36:43.940
if i just like get mad at a video game and just go over with a hammer just like start smashing my
00:36:48.900
playstation that's he's like yeah you go to jail for that domestic violence yeah what yeah no way
00:36:55.380
yeah actually if the if the girl feels threatened and she's like oh my god he's smashing his play
00:37:00.020
what is this ludicic gonna do next you know what i mean then she calls the calls the cops that's it
00:37:04.980
i mean i wouldn't do that but that's like crazy that's that seems a bit but yeah that's
00:37:11.620
i mean i wouldn't smash it right i'm just i'm just making the point no no no if you were to
00:37:15.700
can you open the um i was going insane in that cell the doors please you should punch the hole in
00:37:21.620
the wall it's concrete it's not gonna stop you damn okay um anybody else here ever been
00:37:32.980
arrested for anything okay whatever uh let's see we have we have uh oh you had a criticism
00:37:39.780
you had a criticism never get caught kayla you said the one thing i would like to point out is
00:37:45.700
how after the last podcast episode i was on which was like back in february i think i feel like how
00:37:51.220
brian just immediately went upstairs and didn't properly say thank you or say goodbye to anyone
00:37:55.940
that just spent six whole hours talking on the pod was kind of rude and unexpected for me honestly
00:38:01.220
nothing we have to talk about on the pod just wanted to point out how that can be taken is not
00:38:05.620
nice honestly brian was probably just tired as fuck and so was i brian uh so i monster you're a
00:38:10.900
monster i went so i'll tell you why actually what happened there so um
00:38:17.860
you came in with your it's like five girls i was there that night and then and jake was there yep and
00:38:23.300
so your friend here who was like kind of trolling she lit she almost lit our microphone on fire one
00:38:30.740
i don't know if you remember that she had her like little light flamethrower lighter and then
00:38:37.220
one of you guys had like a weapon on like in a necklace it was a body she had a syringe
00:38:43.940
which we had to confiscate with blood i'm like this chick's bringing the
00:38:47.380
fucking bio weapon into the fucking thing what is she going to do after the show i thought when
00:38:51.940
she pulled out the syringe she's gonna spray that shit so i was like bro i'm not dealing with
00:38:56.260
these chicks after the show so as soon as the show ends i'm going up and it wasn't just any blood
00:39:00.180
brian oh it was oh thank you for pointing that out hey it was it was blood of the vagine it was
00:39:06.100
vagine blood menstrual blood so i was like i don't know what these chicks yeah it was not
00:39:12.340
it was not she took it from her arm well she was saying stuff about menstrual blood but either way it
00:39:18.820
was it was it was of it was something of an occultic ritual which is why you guys should buy yeah
00:39:24.340
rachel wilson's occult feminism so and you can buy firearms that's true and so things go together
00:39:29.940
i understand why you just but look i know you wanted to flirt after the show i get it obviously
00:39:36.020
i've been thinking about you since then literally what the fuck but look yeah i just i was like you
00:39:41.540
know what i don't know if she's gonna pull out some other vagine blood syringe from somewhere else
00:39:48.900
bro how do you know we didn't i'm just kidding i'm actually yeah well hopefully no you guys checked
00:39:53.540
us thoroughly before we got here no blood this time so i was like yo i'm just going go upstairs
00:39:59.060
i'm just gonna go well the vial came from her crack she'd had it stored yeah she she had it up her
00:40:05.460
fucking hoo-ha or some so brian after all of that you decided that the best thing to do to be not
00:40:10.660
to address all of the ladies and kiss their ass before they leave that that's yes jake wait guys
00:40:16.420
what was this was there guys hold on guys guys hold on was there something jake's talking you
00:40:21.380
gotta let him talk was there something on your mind after the show that made you so rude to all
00:40:25.140
of the ladies yeah did all of the ladies deserve that i mean everything that we just talked about
00:40:31.780
yes exactly that i was just like yo i don't know what this girl's gonna try to like pull out something
00:40:37.540
i'm just security risk i'm gonna give her a big hug no not really okay but kayla i dapped you up when
00:40:46.100
you came in we're all good now we're all homies i tried to tell you what your new theme song was
00:40:51.540
yeah start wearing purple google bordello yo matt thank you for the gifted 20 memberships but um
00:41:00.100
yeah so i do i you know what i do feel like i owe you um i'd like to take this chance
00:41:07.300
i'd like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody
00:41:13.220
sorry are we are we homies though yeah we're okay just just checking yep just checking okay uh
00:41:21.460
let's see and a quick recap we won't get into it because we've done it previously but quick recap
00:41:26.100
you were a cam girl and this person wanted to degrade him and wanted you to tell him to cut off his
00:41:34.980
cojones and he actually cut off one of his cojones yeah what
00:41:45.780
oh my god so what i was a cam girl and like we're in like private chat where he's paying by like the
00:41:52.340
minute but like he offered like 3 000 he already tipped it and he was like i just want you to push me
00:41:58.180
to cut off one of my balls and he already had like a metal clamp thing so then i was like well
00:42:05.940
if you already spent you already tipped me three thousand dollars and you're probably just gonna
00:42:12.180
tell the other girl excuse me if i say no you're gonna have someone else do it so
00:42:15.700
yeah so then i was like yep and he did it i said keep going keep going keep going keep going keep
00:42:23.300
going keep going keep going yep go oh god wait do that again keep going keep clipping good job good
00:42:34.740
boy blah it went flop on the floor damn what the fuck wow i'm that's like some jackass forever type
00:42:44.100
shit but like yeah later he joined like again and showed me his little scar did he have to go to the
00:42:50.980
hospital i would hope i mean it ended right after that and then he came back on on the cam with like
00:42:56.820
a scar like a like a and only one testicle yes bro gave himself a he got skinny
00:43:06.180
okay i'm so alarmed right now i feel so bad for that man you didn't like
00:43:12.180
call the police say hey there's a psychopath who's cutting balls off i don't know where he lives
00:43:17.140
i don't know his real name yeah i don't i don't think you need to know like i think he called
00:43:21.060
he probably just went to the hospital on his own after that
00:43:23.060
i don't know that the call ended right after that so nothing i can do
00:43:30.020
yeah i'm pretty pretty sure you could have called police yeah i think i think on me yeah i would
00:43:35.300
have called the police and said hey this guy just cut his balls off on the camera
00:43:38.980
two hundred dollars good on you brian plus 10 sunday good sport
00:43:43.620
brave and decent man thank you man jake's shirt toy andrew's debate plus 10 have a good podcast
00:43:51.300
ladies hey rat tag eyebrows matter wait oh no eyebrows matter yo rat thank you so much uh thank
00:44:01.940
you so much for the tts man and also thank you earlier for i think you sent in like 10 uh twitch
00:44:07.140
subs so thank you so much man really appreciate it good to see you in the chat uh wow okay any other
00:44:13.540
other similar stories of um whatever that was um me and my little sister like kick someone in the
00:44:22.820
balls in public oh boy that was funny in seattle yeah it was like one of the first times i saw her
00:44:29.860
in like years and she got into it and then like i came home from school i came home from school and
00:44:36.340
she was like kayla i cleaned your shoes and they were dirty as fuck so then
00:44:42.740
and then i'm like you clean them she's like no my sub cleaned them and then she showed me a video of
00:44:48.420
like my she's wearing my shoes outside my like apartment and this man is like on his hands and
00:44:53.620
knees licking my shoes clean they were dirty as hell and they were clean excuse me after
00:45:00.260
and then later like the next day how do i get one of those i don't know ask her
00:45:06.420
and then like the next day we met up me her and my friend um in a public like parking lot
00:45:14.340
in like a really popular area of seattle we he laid down and we like kicked him in the balls
00:45:20.580
and then also we used another footstool and he paid us to do that what the
00:45:25.380
fuck money is money damn that's crazy yeah okay um you got anything for that andrew or you just
00:45:36.740
kind of fucking delinquents wow straight up delinquents i feel bad that's so sad yeah but
00:45:44.420
like i would do that no i i don't think it's sad of her i think i feel bad for anyone who their brain
00:45:50.180
like thinks they have to do that to get someone's attention and love do you think that's what it is
00:45:54.500
attention and love i don't or desperate i don't i don't know or i really don't know i don't get it
00:45:59.300
i think it's really sad i feel like everyone has different reasons it's dangerous do you think
00:46:03.380
anything like a dude it's deranged psychotic camera to cut off one of his balls might be slightly
00:46:08.500
mentally ill yeah honestly not at all i think that there this that man's in perfect shape in his head
00:46:15.380
yeah but but but that's but that kind of begs the question right like if you know that the guy is
00:46:21.700
obviously clearly not there in the head why the fuck would you let him do that yeah rents do okay
00:46:29.540
yeah i mean gotta put some money in investments yeah it's all about you well i mean let's take you
00:46:35.380
know what i agree you know but like i should take advantage of mentally ill women so i can pay my rent
00:46:41.380
either like how would that sound the other direction but it's like anonymous and on camera and he's already
00:46:47.300
on there two hundred dollars all your fathers have failed you like here let me wait wait just one
00:46:54.660
sec yo metro matt thank you so much for the tts man really appreciate it really quick before i have
00:46:58.740
andrew ask his question uh who here uh are your parents still together just show of hands
00:47:06.340
you okay and then um do you who here has good relationships with their father yes
00:47:15.300
yes okay what what kind of we don't live near each other now so it's easy to have a good
00:47:24.580
relationship but didn't you vandalize his house yeah after he threw you out for delinquent behavior
00:47:29.220
yeah when i was 18 now i'm 22. uh you had a question yeah well okay so let me get this scenario
00:47:35.220
back the other way let's pretend that you had a uh mentally ill woman right who you were exploiting to uh
00:47:42.580
well i don't know give sexual favors to men while she was on camera would you say that that was a bad
00:47:48.740
wait like mentally ill woman yeah you uh some guy is uh exploiting that mental illness or utilizing
00:47:59.300
that mental illness in order to have her do sexual favors for men on camera is that is that bad
00:48:06.260
if she's not like wanting that no she wants it she's just mentally ill well that's her decision
00:48:16.340
shit so easy so he's not doing anything wrong um i don't
00:48:24.900
think it's anyone else's responsibility to take care of someone else
00:48:29.140
never there's no response like i mean if you have a child that you're responsible
00:48:33.380
to take care of them yeah your child but like a random person you're not responsible for like
00:48:38.500
their mental health but like yeah like if somebody's about to set themselves on fire you don't think
00:48:42.340
they have a responsibility like stop them that's different because what's different what's different
00:48:46.500
like it's it's the same concept right don't you have duties to other people to not let them do
00:48:50.500
horrible things to themselves if you can if you can stop it
00:48:52.980
i mean like wouldn't you want somebody to do that for you if if uh like let's say you took a
00:49:00.580
bunch of mushrooms some night right like you popped a bunch of mushrooms caps right or you took some
00:49:05.540
acid and you were like in the street freaking out right yeah just freaking out you're about you know
00:49:10.020
you're about to start hurting yourself and some nice guy walked by and saw that you were clearly
00:49:14.500
not there and he was like um oh hey i got this camera here right and here's some money
00:49:21.060
uh that would be kind of like taking advantage right now now now let's let's switch the scenario
00:49:28.020
and he like stops and he's like oh there's something wrong with you i'm gonna get you
00:49:32.180
to a hospital right make sure you're okay right okay but that's but genuinely who would do that
00:49:38.260
because if you see a some tweaker on the street like you're not usually going to come up to them
00:49:42.740
and try to help them because you don't know how they're going to react i've seen people give
00:49:45.380
great kindness to random strangers i have too but like if someone's like really tweaking on the street
00:49:50.500
usually you don't go up to them like you see a young girl right who's maybe like her pupils
00:49:55.700
are this big and she's she's having a bad trip i would not come up to her i would probably call
00:50:00.340
some right but you would get her help that's the point right you're not you're not looking to
00:50:04.500
exploit her right you're gonna help her but when it's an anonymous person in on camera they are
00:50:10.980
anonymous people right you don't know them i guess but like how am i what am i supposed to call
00:50:17.540
the cops i don't know yeah of course you are a random person under this random username on this
00:50:22.740
random streaming site where i don't know where they live i'm sure that i'm sure that the police
00:50:27.060
who can pinpoint you with ease and just take in seconds would never be able to figure out where a
00:50:33.620
guy was uh calling you from i mean come of course they have technology to trace these types of calls
00:50:38.260
and this type of things like yeah i think i think you could make a call like a vpn on there like yeah i
00:50:45.460
i mean those are all roadways that you can't do anything about but what you can do something
00:50:49.540
about is like hey this guy's about to cut one of his testicles off but like he's and by the way
00:50:55.940
not only that not only that let's let's forget even that let's forget even that you called what
00:51:00.340
about just saying hey dude don't cut off your balls bro but then he's like please please yeah yeah
00:51:08.100
and you say and you say no don't cut off your balls like how hard would that have been and
00:51:13.860
then he can go to the next person yeah but but then the responsibility i agree could be off of you
00:51:19.300
right he messed up yeah but but there's also the chance that he didn't do that there's also the
00:51:25.140
chance he doesn't skip and go to the next person right i guess but rent's due tomorrow and right so
00:51:30.980
it's just like i don't give a shit i'm just if i can exploit your mental illness for my own gain
00:51:40.740
garris godfrey donated one thousand dollars pop champagne pop champagne let's have a good show
00:51:49.060
drugs are bad saw my first child on the ultrasound for the first time day so excited w andrew wj
00:51:58.420
w discord w barita kuma yo garris godfrey congratulations you're a legend dude thank you
00:52:07.620
so much for the uh massive uh support we'll do the champagne pop while i get this open to allow
00:52:12.980
you guys if you want to yeah i was just saying uh back and forth i i would think that you would
00:52:19.220
think he'd have some responsibility to not let a guy cut his dick or you know his balls off that
00:52:24.260
you would be you would just take one second to be like come on dude you don't actually want it like
00:52:29.780
now we're crossing the next rubicon of of like sick um i honestly didn't think he would do it but
00:52:36.420
like he's begging me to i thought he would just like you know can i ask you turn off the stream like
00:52:40.580
right before just say for example it wasn't his balls that he wanted to chop off say he wanted to
00:52:46.340
cut himself open and remove his kidneys how far would you go if rent if rent was due rent was
00:52:53.060
seriously like you've got no money i don't even think you could do that sir i don't think you could
00:52:57.780
cut open i think you could drive um i'd be like if he was tipping big money like i'd be like tip first
00:53:04.020
hold on a second yeah tip first and then log off tip first then i'll log off so so 20 grand if he
00:53:10.340
said 20 grand is on the table i'm gonna do this would you do it i'd tell him to tip first any tips
00:53:17.620
boom you have to stay on camera and watch though and then push him into it well usually if they tip
00:53:22.340
first then i'm gonna just cancel the call and then i got the money what if he says half now half later
00:53:26.500
half half of 20k is 10k so that's fine yeah so you just rob him but but then but then you don't
00:53:34.100
you're over here saying like that you don't want how about oh wait that's crazy it's almost like
00:53:38.180
you don't have to encourage it or rob him it's like you can do both you could be like i'm not
00:53:43.300
only not going to watch you do this horrible thing to yourself but i'm also not going to rob you it's
00:53:48.980
like you could do both of those things you don't even have to do one or the other or anything you
00:53:53.220
could just not do either you could be like hey you know what i'm not going to let you cut out your
00:53:57.620
kidneys and i'm not going to rob you is that crazy like you could just do both those things yeah
00:54:03.460
nah yeah yeah motherfuckers gotta get robbed you know champagne and rinsed you i'm okay uh wait hold
00:54:10.260
on champagne sure champagne yes please champagne andrew uh okay i'll just start passing them down yeah
00:54:22.580
all right guys what who would you guys date a uh trump supporter or fuck it yeah yes depends on
00:54:36.340
how we act ah no no no no no oh sorry silly goose i know i can't drink on air
00:54:43.780
i got bamboozled that's messed up uh for jordan
00:54:55.460
did you guys want to continue talking about the ball cutting are you guys yeah i think they're just
00:55:00.740
saying like just being a decent did you take that one or just being a decent human being like you just
00:55:05.700
you don't want to be responsible for somebody harming themselves yeah that's why i don't like do
00:55:10.740
camming anymore yeah and i do only like even if it's like like money aside it's just not the right
00:55:17.700
thing to advocate for somebody or to push somebody to like hurt themselves and i honestly thought they
00:55:24.980
were like capping like i thought they were lying and like wouldn't actually go through with it and
00:55:28.900
i thought they were just gonna like end this stream like that's before at what point did it become real
00:55:34.020
was it after he sent money no he sent like he sent like half of it first he sent half then he had to
00:55:42.340
go through with it yeah how did you know he went through with it there was like physical proof he went
00:55:46.660
through with it i mean i saw it plop on the ground oh you watched the whole thing happen yeah i thought
00:55:52.100
he was gonna end the stream and i was gonna be fine with 1500 instead of like 3000 so you stayed to get
00:55:58.900
the remaining 1500 well i'm i usually don't end the stream like i'm just watching because i also get
00:56:05.380
paid by the minute mm-hmm so like anyways yeah anyways yeah i think the others let's uh let's do a toast
00:56:13.460
to garis godfrey salu congratulations thank you man really appreciate really appreciate your patronage uh
00:56:22.020
uh shoot me a dm on the disc i believe you're on the discord we'll get you the legendary rank thank you man
00:56:27.300
i have a quick quick follow-up on this yes you said that you had ended calls before when they tipped
00:56:33.860
you does that mean that you've robbed men on this um no so you've never taken the tip and then ended
00:56:42.580
the call i'll like do the call until i'm uncomfortable because sometimes they'll ask me to do crazy things
00:56:48.660
sometimes people aren't into like making myself throw up yeah sure then i'm gonna end the call but
00:56:53.060
you'll take the tip he already said yeah so so he says i want you to do this thing but here's the tip
00:56:59.220
and then tell me what he wants but he already tipped so like i'm not gonna refund him money so
00:57:05.220
he's never told you what he wants and then tipped and then you've ended the call yeah why would he do
00:57:09.140
that like just wondering what's happened to me though because that's not very cash money he should ask
00:57:14.500
first yeah but then yeah but then i say some stuff that's like they want like keep pushing my limits
00:57:21.380
when i like purely i've already put the boundaries and then after they tip they keep saying like
00:57:27.220
trying to push my boundaries or like doing like other things that i didn't agree to and that's when
00:57:32.980
i just like end it and i'm like so you've never taken a tip saying that you would do something and
00:57:37.860
then just not done it no okay yeah that'd be kind of rude i get like uncomfortable because i'm pushing my
00:57:43.940
pushing my boundaries what are those boundaries like anal type stuff no i don't know but not
00:57:55.540
snipping a testicle off i just honestly wanted to see if that was like if he was dead ass about that
00:58:05.460
okay let's see uh you uh you said you're doing your of to pay for your higher education are you in
00:58:16.020
college right now too i'm in cosmo cosmetology oh cosmetology school is that the higher education
00:58:21.540
are you trying to do something more like academic um i'm more of a creative person so i don't think
00:58:28.980
there's a point for me to go to college for like to study arts okay all right moving to uh heather
00:58:38.740
you do uh you do the of stuff uh are you also a stripper too or i wish no do any of you do uh
00:58:48.340
stripping or i was a stripper for like three months three months okay god i want to be a stripper so bad
00:58:54.420
i actually wrote an essay when i was a kid about how i wanted to be a stripper because my mom
00:58:58.740
was talking about how much money they make and stuff it's not worth the traumatization i mean
00:59:05.140
only doing it for a month would still be fun to me and i don't i don't want to do one-on-ones like
00:59:09.700
the reason why i wouldn't be a stripper is because most clubs kind of like push you towards like
00:59:15.220
touching men and i do not want gross and that's not happening so i don't know i just want to look
00:59:22.420
i just want to look pretty on a pole and get praised i got i got i got that sounds so fun what
00:59:27.860
the heck oh gosh i don't know nah but you gotta like you'll realize you'll actually have to handle
00:59:35.380
rejection to your face do you want to dance no ten dollars no no thanks honey yeah and that's okay
00:59:43.060
i don't really i don't i don't really have i don't i don't care i don't my feelings don't get hurt very
00:59:47.300
easily yeah i just all right just go you said you've only been in three long-term relationships
00:59:54.660
and that this is the first time you've been single since you were 13. i don't really know anything
00:59:58.580
about normal dating that's hard i mean the dating part is hard but like when you're like single and
01:00:04.340
you're just like doing your thing i don't really know how to be single it's hard okay um you wanted
01:00:10.820
to ask how old should you start thinking about serious relationships yeah like like question for
01:00:17.460
the panel yeah like it when should you start thinking about getting into a relationship that
01:00:22.740
you know you want to lead to marriage you know because like 13 is way too young yeah like i should
01:00:29.460
not have been in a relationship at 13. totally agree yeah i think it depends on the personality
01:00:35.700
of the person because everyone wants different things out of relationships out of life some people
01:00:39.860
want a career some people want to make a family first so i think it's kind of open to interpretation
01:00:45.140
but i would say it was like a guideline i think it's more intelligent to date a little bit later
01:00:53.060
yeah i mean i don't know when you're a kid i feel like you should focus on like being a kid and like
01:00:58.100
learning about who you are and your friend group and stuff like that for sure i'd say i kind of think like
01:01:04.020
like 17 at the very at the very minimum like if you have to date i'd say like 17 i guess but i'd prefer
01:01:12.500
like your brain isn't even fully developed as a girly until you're like 25 isn't it well like kind of
01:01:18.420
depends on the person yeah like you mature so like so like as long as you're like above 18 i guess you
01:01:24.420
can't really say anything about it but 13 is way too young there should be like a law against that
01:01:31.060
no no there are laws against it yeah well there's laws against like there's laws against like doing
01:01:36.900
the nasty but that's not even i was just like dating him you know metro mac donated two hundred
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dollars ladies the internet is forever your time at a serious relationship was before of and wearing
01:01:51.620
what you are yeah yeah yo metro matt thank you for the tts man really really appreciate it uh what
01:01:59.060
do you guys think about this so i mean he's sort of kind of uh hinting towards since you guys are
01:02:05.620
involved in of do you think it's makes things maybe a bit harder to get a relationship or
01:02:11.940
i definitely agree i think it's a little bit harder depending on the type of people you want
01:02:17.700
to date i think that since i am an only fans model i've been doing that for three or four years now
01:02:23.540
it has been a little bit more challenging finding someone who is okay with someone who
01:02:27.060
is in the sex work industry and i totally understand that it's not always easy looking
01:02:31.140
over at your partner's phone and someone named sugar daddy number 10 it's like yo drop your panties i
01:02:38.420
want to see you xyz right like that's not easy to like see that sometimes but some people are okay
01:02:44.820
with like putting those differences aside and like learning who you are outside of just your career
01:02:50.340
can i ask you a question yes if a man had a woman who had sugar daddy number 10 on the phone
01:02:58.820
and he said i want you to do a b c and d for me and she does it and he's okay with it isn't he a cuck
01:03:05.860
do you like that sorry i'm kidding i'm sorry i like i like i like cooks i like men who are accepting
01:03:13.780
and don't really care i just would never i would never do it in front of him personally a cuck i like
01:03:18.340
to keep it away like in person watching them yeah yeah why does it need to be in person or like
01:03:24.980
watching them i think it's just a guy is okay with it so like let me give you an example i think
01:03:30.340
if a guy says i'm okay with you like having sex with my wife or girlfriend oh that and then that's
01:03:34.660
a cuck that's a cuck right but but if he said i'm okay with you watching her do naked naked while you
01:03:40.180
masturbate that's still this is the same yeah it's just like watching porn is being a cuck i think yeah
01:03:49.300
what's your opinion i think that there's that's literally yeah yeah so i think that there's uh
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kind of a uh a distinction there between what is interpersonal and what isn't well i would agree
01:04:00.180
it's bad you shouldn't do it right shouldn't shouldn't be done i think huh sorry i think it's
01:04:06.260
a little bit based on who you are as a person and how you perceive things and like your nature versus
01:04:10.660
nurture you know because like for me i view it as business you know it's like oh sure whatever
01:04:16.820
it takes 10 minutes make a few hundred bucks or more well i don't i don't see what that is if
01:04:20.660
if my wife let's say saw it as a business opportunity to have sex with other men for money
01:04:26.180
that would still be cuckery right if i was like okay then what i mean is like the interpersonal
01:04:31.220
relationship like when you are dating someone it's like almost romantic not almost it's like romantic
01:04:36.340
you know like an emotional connection but not to out myself it's work for me like i don't have
01:04:42.100
an emotional connection it's just like a picture i don't really understand why it being work has
01:04:47.540
anything to do with the cuck aspect of it it's like oh i get paid for it it's like okay so what
01:04:52.580
you get paid for it but if the guy's okay with you getting like you know plowed let's say um by other
01:04:59.460
dudes and you're getting paid i don't see the distinction it just seems like okay well now i'm
01:05:03.300
a cuck who who gets gets paid for me versus not getting paid for me it's just same shit right i think
01:05:08.980
it definitely depends i think it's like a little bit circumstantial and like who the parties are involved
01:05:14.180
are because like for me if there's an emotional connection i am livid like if my partner is like
01:05:20.580
emotionally invested into another woman i'm like yo bro if it's not an example of uh the time when
01:05:25.620
it's not cuckery i think for example like a bundle you know like if you're in the sex work industry do
01:05:36.500
bundles so if i took pictures like three four years ago and i posted my story like hey who wants to buy
01:05:41.860
this hundred dollar bundle whatever and i just send it there's no emotional connection it's not
01:05:46.180
custom nothing like that it's literally just 20 needs so you're sending a bundle of uh nude or whatever
01:05:52.660
sort of content to somebody and they're masturbating to it whatever they do to me whatever they want
01:05:57.860
and and your your boyfriend's cool with you doing that yeah that would make him a cuck
01:06:01.940
uh i think i think you like someone that's turned on by that nope well i mean she doesn't do it in
01:06:12.340
front of him no it's just him allowing it i think it's just him it's just them being okay with it yeah
01:06:17.780
or being okay with it with cuckery i feel like it's definitely more of like an intimate like you get
01:06:22.980
turned on you are actively hard you're actively trying to come to your partner cuckoldry comes from the
01:06:27.940
idea that a woman gets pregnant with some other man's kid and then you unknowingly raise the child
01:06:36.580
oh that's what that's where the root word for cuckoldry is it comes from a cuckoo bird right
01:06:41.540
so the idea is the bird goes in lays eggs okay not kidding yeah the bird goes in lays eggs
01:06:48.340
and then unwittingly the offspring is being raised by uh the male that's not actually their offspring so
01:06:55.140
they don't know right but the way it evolved is the same idea the idea here is if other people
01:07:01.940
are having sex with you know your chick you could they could get pregnant right and then you could
01:07:08.740
unknowingly think that that's your child and so that's how the word evolved into the idea of
01:07:14.420
if a guy is okay with you sleeping around or selling yourself sexually around then that's cuckoldry
01:07:20.580
that's so that's how the root got got to where where we're at now okay you see what i'm saying
01:07:25.860
yeah i didn't know that yeah i think it's really interesting to look at the history of words and
01:07:30.100
to see how it's changed over the years yeah the etymology yeah the etymology and i think for my
01:07:37.300
relationship my partner i mean to best my knowledge he's never expressed that he has any sexual interest
01:07:44.340
in what i do he's actually kind of not really the greatest fan of it and it's like i don't know
01:07:52.180
because it's like no he's i'm sure he's not yeah i'm sure he's not yeah well look like um like honestly
01:07:58.500
don't you think that most men they don't want to share their woman definitely i mean i don't
01:08:03.060
want to say definitely because every man is different and they all have their own special
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they didn't say all just said most myself i'm sorry i just said most don't you think most men
01:08:10.660
yeah don't want to share their woman and i mean the vast majority right yeah it's definitely
01:08:16.500
interesting to think about how people portray themselves especially socially like as an only
01:08:23.300
fans girl myself i've received a lot of distasteful comments or um the ending of relationships because
01:08:32.180
of it so i definitely see the validity of not wanting your partner to do it i also see the validity of
01:08:37.780
picking and choosing who you surround yourself with and stuff like that no i i guess i i understand
01:08:44.260
your perspective i'm just i'm asking kind of a different question so do you think do you think
01:08:49.620
most men probably don't want to share their woman from what i've read online and like what i've experienced
01:08:55.460
myself i do think that's the case yeah i would say that that's probably reasonable right that they
01:09:00.180
don't want to share their woman and so this idea think of it from the other man's perspective of the man who
01:09:05.380
does and is willing to share their woman aren't all these other men who are unwilling to gonna think
01:09:10.660
lesser of them honestly i'm not sure they do you know and you know what they call them they call
01:09:18.260
them a cuck right they say you're a fucking cuck and that's that's why they call them that they think
01:09:24.500
lesser of them so i have my own hypothesis here see i think that any man any man who allows their woman
01:09:34.420
to be you know on purpose go out and you know screw other men or dance naked form or whatever
01:09:41.140
any man who allows that every other man regardless of their social status is going to think they're
01:09:46.820
better than that guy every man regardless of so you could be in other words you could be a bum in the
01:09:52.180
street a bum in the street hasn't washed in eight weeks right no money no nothing and you'll think
01:09:58.340
you're better than that guy because he's a cuck because he's a cuck but okay i'm not kidding who
01:10:03.860
cares about it yeah we should care about other people you don't well you don't have to because
01:10:07.860
you don't have to compete right but men do men have to be hang on men have to compete with each other
01:10:12.660
so men operate within a social hierarchy and so it's very important to men what other men think that's
01:10:19.060
job prospects that's how we get along in the world is by relying on each other so if men think lesser
01:10:26.020
of you in general right that's a serious effect that men face within their own hierarchical
01:10:31.700
structures so who built the like the way like it's that's because of it's i'm sorry but you guys we
01:10:39.300
had to fix it for ourselves how we see like what we do now it wasn't this way when my grandma was a kid
01:10:44.900
at all and us women we thank god for women's liberation but you men you guys haven't done that
01:10:50.660
yet because it's so hard because it's been we haven't been liberated you guys haven't like changed
01:10:55.460
the judgment aspect of it like i was just talking about this yeah yeah we haven't we don't we don't
01:11:00.180
we're not ever going to judge it differently i was i spent the night at someone's house with my friend
01:11:04.660
the other night and he's like a big fan of the whatever podcast yeah and we were talking about it
01:11:10.260
and like i don't know it's just really sad how like guys care so much about other people's opinions
01:11:15.700
because yeah but it's other men yeah grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars and one
01:11:22.180
cent the delusion is ridiculous with these whores no man wants another man to plow his woman
01:11:28.820
and to be able to ask how his diet tastes let alone think about sloppy seconds wake up and be better
01:11:36.820
thank you grid one all right thank you good one appreciate the uh message so uh so yeah you were
01:11:41.620
well you were saying that you were talking with your uh male friend and why do men care so much or
01:11:46.740
what was it you were saying no yeah but oh was that you my apologies but wait none of us are getting
01:11:52.420
plowed we're simply selling yeah you guys are bringing it up here i'm not the comments the
01:11:58.740
commenter said what the commenter said yeah no i'm going i'm going back to what she said you're
01:12:03.940
making a category making a category okay we're simply i'm saying everything under this category
01:12:08.820
is the thing which includes allowing your chick to get plowed not that any of you are doing that
01:12:14.420
that's there's a distinction there right yeah that was not making that any such accusation so
01:12:20.660
the problem is is like y'all have to probably attention deficit disorder you're like i'm kidding
01:12:26.180
i'm kidding but anyway no i never actually said that what i said was that all that fits under the
01:12:30.740
category of cuckery yeah yeah i mean true i just like my men i like my men non-judgmental
01:12:36.980
preferably not straight and i don't know you like your men not straight yeah i'd prefer a guy who's
01:12:42.900
like i don't know my last relationship he's how do you have a physical how do you have a physical
01:12:46.820
i don't know i don't know how i bag him he's so perfect and he's doesn't like he doesn't like girls
01:12:51.700
like that like bye no like he he didn't i guess yeah he has been by he he has a really great taste in
01:12:57.380
women but like i just don't like i'm not like jealous at all i wouldn't let him get with anyone
01:13:01.620
else and i don't want to get with anyone else so you wouldn't want him sucking a dick on the side
01:13:04.980
while you oh i don't care about that and i that's that sounds fun that sounds hot i don't care about
01:13:09.060
that you guys can do it together exactly but i wouldn't get with another guy that's gross i'm not
01:13:14.180
i'm more into girls personally but i'm not completely i'm not completely into girls like he's more into
01:13:19.860
guys than he is girls i'm more into guys than i am girls okay but it's confusing it's confusing i'm
01:13:25.860
not confused but but so kind of moving this back though to the wilson hypothesis which is that any i
01:13:34.180
think any man who is not a cuck will always view every man as as who is as lesser than them regardless
01:13:43.300
of social status yeah that's my hypothesis no and that might be right i guess i i sure so yeah so
01:13:50.980
don't you think then if that is true and you agree that that's true that the men who engage in this
01:13:57.220
then are going to be they're going to be significantly punished by the rest of the hierarchy and society
01:14:03.060
for this and that they if they let it sure how do you mean let how can you stop it oh there's not
01:14:10.180
like there's not like a go off queen yeah there's not like a stop which can happen here right you
01:14:15.380
can't stop it you can't be like oh you have to view me as you're because they just won't right it's
01:14:20.660
like yeah you're a cuck bro get out or you could just not care in general yeah but not caring it
01:14:25.940
does not mean that you're not going to get the effect true well i guess i've just never seen it
01:14:30.100
firsthand but like there's a few people on the internet exposed as cucks and hitherto they might
01:14:37.460
have had some opinions that people really liked they might have had a following and they might be
01:14:41.140
able to say the best thing ever that is just completely revolutionary they might be able to
01:14:45.140
cure cancer but they're a cuck yeah no you got a valid point there that's that's definitely messed
01:14:51.940
up that's so sad like well i mean you heard you know it's like it's like it's the old bridge builder
01:14:56.820
thing right it doesn't matter how good you are at building bridges if you suck one dick they're not
01:15:01.700
going to call you the bridge builder they're going to call you the dick that's right
01:15:07.620
i was like wait that's how it works no you're right that's messed up oh god i don't know luckily
01:15:14.660
us girls don't have to deal with that i guess yeah i'm glad i would feel horrible i guess everyone
01:15:19.700
called my man a cuck yeah that would be like hiding like yeah so uh society like this is sad i mean i'm
01:15:26.180
i didn't realize how weird my thought process is i thought that like it just was like everyone
01:15:31.460
thinks differently but i guess i there's there well these norms do you know why these norms exist they
01:15:36.580
exist because um no no they exist because the only way to assure paternity from a man and a woman
01:15:46.100
meaning the only way for you to determine that the child was yours before we had testing to determine
01:15:50.980
this which is recent very recent was that she was only with you yeah so if she stepped out you had
01:15:56.820
no way to determine whether the offspring was yours yeah i mean i so that's why it's such a big deal
01:16:02.340
it's ingrained in men right it's ingrained in men they're like they want to assure paternity they want
01:16:06.420
to be like i want to know that kid is so that's why we find it revolting right true it's built into us
01:16:11.300
that's totally fine i mean i think if i think it's revolting too like if my if i say my ex because i
01:16:17.540
still care about him a lot and stuff but if my ex were to get with a girl i would probably
01:16:23.860
freak out and put like instant mashed potatoes in his yard before it rained
01:16:29.940
i thought you had the perfect homosexual you were with i don't think he would do it i'm just saying
01:16:34.500
hypothetically yeah if he were to i'd be really upset why but like because i mean but if he goes
01:16:40.020
out and like sucks 100 dicks no problem um i mean he wouldn't but if he did yeah but if he did
01:16:46.820
like you know i wouldn't mess with like a hundred like if he had if he 10 i think 10 is doable two
01:16:53.300
okay two dicks but not three not three three's too many no i mean okay he's super respectful and
01:17:00.260
he understands my boundaries and i don't even have to worry about okay so too so he so he sucks two
01:17:04.660
dicks that's okay one chick i do want to see a my chart though i want to see you want to make sure
01:17:10.500
you didn't get hiv i need to i need to like it's like that's like a big thing like i'm not getting
01:17:16.100
nothing like do what you want just don't get with a girl and show me your my chart but you can go get
01:17:21.460
with a guy he can yeah sure i don't care i want to see them though and that's just me that's just
01:17:30.660
me personally like i would never judge what other people want and stuff as long as it's not like
01:17:35.220
messed up but like i don't know that's just how i am it just doesn't make me jealous having a
01:17:39.460
girlfriend and then going out and sucking a dick is a little bit messed up not particularly just uh
01:17:45.060
that's pretty normal keep me in the known it's never happened he never really did it i think he
01:17:48.820
thinks that it would make me upset but like i'm so i'm so for real right now i genuinely don't get
01:17:55.140
jealous like that when it comes to men but with women no it's like my brain is like wired to be like
01:18:00.580
if he gets with another girl then he hates me so i don't know
01:18:06.340
i don't know i i want to know if there's like a name for how i think because i cannot be the only
01:18:10.340
person that thinks this way okay i think it's called psychosis it might be i am i am crazy
01:18:16.260
wait you are no i'm just autistic wait you're just what autistic oh autistic yeah my brain's
01:18:22.100
just a little i guess this this could be a good segue like so uh mental illness check
01:18:28.180
um what's everybody's diagnosis oh really never been diagnosed with anything you've diagnosed yourself
01:18:34.500
though right what what's your self-diagnosis self-diagnosis uh adhd okay adhd with what you
01:18:39.620
got got a catch anxiety official or unofficial unofficial so self-diagnosis anxiety okay no any
01:18:48.260
official diagnoses no no official um yeah i'm just autistic like so okay we got like bipolar bpd
01:18:56.420
anything like that any personality disorders just autism okay i i mean yeah technically technically
01:19:04.340
what aspect is technically okay what about you i have like a few anxiety disorders i have gad i have
01:19:12.820
like social anxiety and then i also have um anticipatory anxiety it's basically anticipatory
01:19:20.580
anxiety okay so i'd show up to work like three or four hours early like in the parking lot type
01:19:24.820
shit whoa yeah i'd like 11 years of therapy sweet yeah good times what good times oh sorry i totally
01:19:33.060
heard something else yeah you did what did you hear i can't talk about on the podcast anyway um okay i
01:19:38.820
also have like a depression disorder so i have like clinical depression all right what about you what
01:19:43.060
you what you got anxiety anxiety i get anxious sometimes jake what about you sometimes when i'm
01:19:51.140
trying to sleep and i hear little noises i get pretty upset okay psychopath all right psychopath
01:19:59.380
what about you andrew insomnia oh my god yeah it's got psychopathy narcissism just like the list goes
01:20:06.340
on any of these honestly i'm glad you're so aware of yeah any of the things that women normally call
01:20:11.140
men when they're just kind of like moderately unpleasant to them incel marker i have ocd
01:20:17.140
yeah look i have all of those things that's how you tell right now his wife what's that mr owns
01:20:22.100
his wife yeah yeah so i would say yeah narcissism psychopathic uh yeah all that stuff yeah most men
01:20:31.860
most men yeah he's just a man do you sleep with like blackout curtains and all that uh and then
01:20:36.740
going around the table once more like you can't hear a pin drop okay okay same thing really is
01:20:42.900
this the inquiry no i'm just making shit up blackout curtains is that the yes it's gotta it's gotta be
01:20:48.900
dark quiet i want i don't want to hear a peep okay so going around the table i'm triggering my narcissism
01:20:54.740
so hard right now it's so sorry so uh triggering my narcissism triggering my narcissism
01:21:01.780
take a walk so going going around the table uh do you take any medications for
01:21:07.300
your problems no no this includes self-medication yeah i was gonna just yes
01:21:17.460
adderall sometimes oh okay prescribed or just you buy it off the street from my friends i'm buying
01:21:24.500
off the local drug dealer on the corner word anything yes adderall or no not adderall what
01:21:30.740
do you can i say it weed oh yeah i would say marijuana yeah yeah just weed um i was on
01:21:37.700
cytolopram but it kind of made me suicidal what's that cytolopram is like a ssri yeah it's a dating
01:21:43.780
app antidepressant okay prescribed yes ativan okay all right that's a benzo right yeah nothing just let
01:21:54.500
it run wild all right okay cool there you go there you have it folks the diagnosis from the panel
01:22:01.460
the prescription the rx that's great while we uh do we have oh we do have a couple chats so i'll get
01:22:07.220
through those we have who cares the level of desperation a simp will go to just to get a
01:22:12.660
girl's attention have no remorse for these kinds of guys okay hey thank you man really appreciate it
01:22:20.740
i believe this is in he sent this when we were talking about the whole you made a guy cut his balls
01:22:25.700
off yeah so he says he has no remorse for these kind of guys because like they're the one begging
01:22:31.540
for it i kind of have some remorse yeah i did a little bit more like remorse is right not remorse
01:22:37.780
but empathy empathy that's what i mean and like low-key pity no remorse because he's literally begging
01:22:44.980
for me to do it i think they probably needed mental health yeah but you know they signed into
01:22:51.300
they need a father figure like andrew wilson andrew wilson you should start a service like
01:22:56.580
called the andrew wilson's belt and you go around the fucking country just
01:23:00.660
fucking belting simps and what do you think that's what my sister does because apparently
01:23:06.100
some of them would get like sexual gratification from that oh yeah oh they get sexual gratification
01:23:12.420
on pretty much everything you have a question or no i have a statement okay okay so i use snapchat a
01:23:19.540
lot i have over like 10 000 followers on snapchat for some reason and thank you thank you okay i
01:23:26.260
get sent about like like on an average three unsolicited dick pics a day well yeah it's terrible but one
01:23:34.420
time i opened i opened a you know that same thing happens to men right no way okay but i opened a
01:23:39.460
snap one day right and this this guy was shoving a rod down his hole i've seen that so it happens to
01:23:48.820
men the other direction right so there's uh like women's only fans bots their managers and shit like
01:23:55.380
that will get those bots rolling and you'll open up your twitter and there'll be 15 stupid naked
01:24:00.580
dumb skank you're like you just got to block them all you have to report them all and it's like
01:24:04.420
what the i've seen that on my yeah they do it they do it constantly so it's not like women are the only
01:24:09.700
ones who are getting unsolicited nudes you know what i mean yeah that's on twitter you know that
01:24:13.860
they're not just on twitter it's everywhere yeah and snapchat's really bad what do you think about
01:24:19.300
this for for equity right because we've we hear girls bring up like equality but then they like shift to
01:24:24.260
equity or whatever like i do kind of think of the equity if like kind of almost as revenge if women
01:24:30.820
just started sending pussy pics like i know they would want that they'd like it like i think women
01:24:36.740
should like you should get back at us men i think you just want to see some i think you guys should
01:24:41.220
get back yeah i think you guys should get back at us and just start sending unsolicited pussy pics you
01:24:46.580
know what i mean don't you have a wife or something okay okay so yeah okay go i'm just
01:24:55.460
saying bro i don't know that that's that's crazy on snapchat there are definitely girls who will like
01:24:59.780
send you pictures of everything for sure i just think that guys are like people that are literally
01:25:03.940
famous i'm just saying like maybe just like revenge or something that's gonna be so
01:25:09.540
fucking gross that is so gross free revenge is crazy groomed or un-groomed that's crazy yeah
01:25:16.580
anyways uh okay we have another chat here from run
01:25:22.260
girl you know what i think we need to have uh kylie read this kayla sorry my bad
01:25:31.860
girl on the right is 100 wife material sarcasm not the sharpest tool in the shed mom's
01:25:38.020
lock your sons up lock up your sons wait can you roll up your sleeve here this one so we can see
01:25:42.660
the spider tattoo oh sick there's a heart what's the what's the story it's like that's very deep
01:25:50.260
like there's the heart in the middle in the spider webs it's like i just thought it was cute
01:25:54.500
man oh okay there's no story behind it okay she loves spider-man
01:25:58.980
maybe that's the center i love spider-man um me too oh wait really quick since we're on the topic um let's
01:26:06.420
cut okay oh my god what the fuck kayla kayla right yes did i get it right thank you i'm like what is
01:26:13.620
wrong with me yeah i don't know uh we have some of her instagrams to start with the beginning i
01:26:17.780
have a question for you kayla so like there was a transformation big transformation that happened
01:26:22.100
what right yeah the just the first one the first photos all right so this is like young kayla and
01:26:34.260
then next though like next one like maybe a bit older so like i'm curious school what happened so
01:26:41.220
that's you and these two pics what happened between then here and then this she straightened her eyebrows
01:26:49.060
here next here next next next oh is that a face dancing yeah is there one more is there one more
01:26:58.580
oh well that won't come so all of those in between that what what happened what happened psychotic
01:27:04.340
mother she got kicked out crazy mom is that it got a crazy crazy mom crazy mom crazy dad crazy dad
01:27:09.300
mostly a crazy mom though right yes what mostly a crazy mom um she just has mental illness yeah like
01:27:17.460
yeah i could see what does she have okay we don't know exactly what my my aunt is a therapist so she
01:27:23.380
thinks it's like some type of personality disorder because she never got like she has extreme adhd and
01:27:31.220
i guess if you don't like learn how to cope with that or whatever it can turn into like a personality
01:27:36.580
disorder and like extreme depression or anxiety stuff like that okay but like why follow in the footsteps of
01:27:42.660
crazy though um she's not like that's not by choice though like i'm like i know i have adhd so i like
01:27:58.100
look up and like read up on how to like cope with those things i don't want to get like a prescription
01:28:03.780
for adderall because i feel like there's no need to take adderall every single day because that's like
01:28:08.660
not good for you i don't think personally yeah but i mean people people are able to manage
01:28:15.780
manage these conditions all the time right without uh without falling into kind of these
01:28:20.340
these insane traps where they decide they're going to tap themselves up do the only fans going to rebel
01:28:25.140
against dad right going to do all that type of stuff well maybe it's just like my dad was really
01:28:32.100
strict like insanely strict like i got caught for weed once and then i'd come home and my shits all
01:28:39.940
packed when like did he put did he lay down the groundwork don't do this or else there's going to
01:28:46.980
be this consequence no we didn't i came home and it was just packed and then yeah but then we didn't
01:28:54.740
even we didn't even talk about it for like three days i just slept in my sister's bed
01:28:58.580
so i just want to make sure right just just want to make sure there was no pattern of behavior so
01:29:05.940
it wasn't like oh this was just the one thing that i did and my dad just absolutely lost his
01:29:10.900
shit threw me out or was it actually that there was a pattern of behavior where you had done a
01:29:16.420
bunch of shit over and over and over again that he was dealing with when i was like from like
01:29:21.060
14 to like 16 then after i just lived with my dad he was more lenient with me and i had i thought
01:29:27.700
you just said he was super strict no okay strict about like he grew up with he was born in taiwan
01:29:33.300
so he's asian parent strict plus his dad was in the military so military stricken yeah so he had
01:29:39.060
high expectations sure yeah but i just think it was funny how he we would always have talks about how
01:29:43.700
he thinks alcohol is worse for the first for people's health than versus weed or like cigarettes
01:29:49.140
are way worse for people's health versus weed and then i got caught smoking weed once yeah yeah but but
01:29:54.820
okay but what but was it just that it was only weed or was there a pattern so before i kicked out
01:30:01.460
it was in like 2020 versus when when um covid was happening my stepmom she's a nurse and she thought
01:30:07.940
like covid was fake even though she was a nurse okay and so i had a full-time job and i was like a cashier
01:30:16.100
jack-in-the-box and i'm oh i'm like serving like hundreds of people every day but then he wouldn't let me
01:30:23.780
leave the house to like chill with my friends for just a little bit and it was kind of making me go
01:30:30.580
insane staying at home because my dad and my stepmom would fuck so fucking loud and they wouldn't
01:30:36.260
fucking like chill out like at 7 a.m i'm trying to eat breakfast and like i'm hearing like i'm like
01:30:42.900
you know like why would i want to stay wait they fucked loud yes and i would tell them to chill the
01:30:48.660
fuck out and like bro i'm trying to eat breakfast it's kind of i'm like about to throw up now because
01:30:54.100
i'm hearing my dad fuck my stepmom so he told you you weren't allowed to go out you went out anyway
01:30:57.460
right yeah because that's fucking trouble so so and then before that i'm guessing that there was other
01:31:02.980
restrictions he laid down and you rebelled against those restrictions as well right yeah so that's a
01:31:07.620
pattern of behavior so when so when you say i was just smoked this weed one time and my psychotic
01:31:13.220
dad threw me out it's not really what happened right what happened is there was a bunch of
01:31:17.780
behavior over and over and over again yeah i had it correct until he finally hit a boiling point and
01:31:21.780
said okay go get some real world experience and then after you do maybe you won't you uh maybe you'll
01:31:28.180
calm your shit down and now you say you have a relationship with him again right so maybe you
01:31:31.940
do see it a little bit from his angle yeah i was like a fucking you were you a fucking delinquent
01:31:37.860
were you a delinquent like were you engaged in delinquent ass activity he said don't do this and
01:31:44.740
he did it anyway well what i thought was weird was that he would always say covet's not real i don't
01:31:52.100
believe this blah blah blah blah and then when there's like i'm going out he's saying i can't go
01:31:57.460
out because of covet but then yeah these are all justifications though i mean what i'm asking you is
01:32:01.540
not how you felt about it yeah i'm asking you the opposite i'm saying did your old man put down tons
01:32:06.580
of restrictions which you broke constantly yeah yeah so then it's a pattern of behavior right so
01:32:12.100
he gets fed up he says get the fuck out yeah so how is that wait so so the thing i think the thing
01:32:18.340
here's what i don't understand though right it's like we start the story with my dad's a fucking
01:32:23.220
monster okay this guy smoked a joint once and this psychotic son of a bitch threw me right out the door
01:32:28.980
and then we get into the story no that's not really what happened what happened is over time of you
01:32:33.540
doing delinquent shit and disobeying him over and over and over again he has breaking point through
01:32:37.540
your ass out but he didn't give me a warning why does he he gave you a hundred warnings how
01:32:41.860
many times you break his rules he didn't say you wouldn't kick me out yeah but why okay but here's
01:32:46.340
the thing right it's like what how much of this is your responsibility for what you did
01:32:52.900
all the actions i took are all mine they're all you so it's like why is he obliged your week away
01:32:57.780
from 18 why is he obliged to just consistently put up with your
01:33:00.820
your shit if he doesn't watch your behavior i mean he could have been like hey like one more
01:33:06.260
fuck up then blah blah blah you would have still done it though right no i wouldn't if he said one
01:33:11.860
more fuck up i'm just but if he tosses you out right go get a taste of the real world and then you realize
01:33:16.900
well wait maybe the grass wasn't greener on this side right like you don't think your dad hates you
01:33:21.940
you think he loves you right i mean last thing i said to him after i kicked out was like i said i
01:33:27.540
like want to kill myself and he said him and his step my stepmom said do it then
01:33:36.020
like and did you no so he saw it as a form of manipulation yeah but like and it was and
01:33:41.380
it was it was a form of manipulation right i mean then two years later i overdosed and had a heart
01:33:45.860
attack so then yeah but od-ing is not the same as you trying to intentionally off yourself you can
01:33:54.100
accidentally od for instance it was purposely okay so two years after this okay which and i'm
01:34:00.020
guessing it's unrelated to this event well probably because my dad like never talked to me or checked
01:34:05.780
up on me yeah you gotta go get a taste of the real world right yeah and i got my own car he took away
01:34:11.380
my car and then i got my own car two years later yeah you had to experience consequences
01:34:16.580
which i know oh no it's the consequences of my own actions get them andrew this should be like
01:34:25.380
work for you brian stop eating the burrito behind the scenes yeah i'm not i'm not i'm not even trying
01:34:31.060
to beat you up i'm just trying to well i know i'm just trying i'm just trying to look at it from the
01:34:34.820
other angle here too right yeah i'm 22 now like yeah yeah so the thing is is like consequences
01:34:40.180
right meet meet your maker right i also thought that it was weird how when my just because me and
01:34:47.780
my dad didn't have a good relationship when my grandpa died nobody told me except my grandma and
01:34:53.620
then i also wasn't allowed to go to the funeral because he thought it'd be weird because we were
01:34:58.740
on bad terms yeah because you were on bad terms so how would it be weird so i worse well well where's
01:35:04.340
the where's the humility where's the like showing up like what about this what have you ever tried this
01:35:08.820
have you ever tried to show up and say look dad i fucked up yeah i did and i'm really sorry i did
01:35:14.020
and it's not going to happen again i did you did and what does your dad think about only fans
01:35:20.100
i don't know yeah it doesn't sound it doesn't you don't know no you don't know what your dad thinks
01:35:24.580
about only fans but like i know i don't know exactly what so if you show up and you're like oh hey
01:35:30.100
dad i prostitute myself out online for random strangers to give me money while they see my naked body
01:35:35.300
but you know what i'm really sorry about all the stuff i did you think he thinks you're serious
01:35:39.860
sorry about like the actions i've done yeah yeah i don't know how that's related to what my job is
01:35:44.900
because this you are the barrier your family's name do you think your dad wants his family name drug
01:35:50.820
through the mud by oh here's my daughter oh yeah by the way you can go look at all of her nudie pics
01:35:57.380
online it just cost you 9.99 chuck hmm well maybe i wouldn't have done that if i was sleeping in my car
01:36:03.380
it's like 18 years maybe you wouldn't be sleeping in your car if he hadn't been monumentally making
01:36:08.020
the mistake of not following the rules of your home well it's both of our faults not i don't think
01:36:13.380
so it sounds like it's your fault sounds like sounds like here's the rules you broke them
01:36:18.100
consistently over and over and he 86ed your ass he said get out right he said get out go go out in the
01:36:24.100
world and i'm low-key glad he did that because i meet a lot of people my age and they don't know how
01:36:29.940
anything in the real world works that's right they don't yeah and so he gave you a good taste of
01:36:34.340
that and you know but i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you that i'm gonna tell you this if you drop the of
01:36:38.100
tomorrow all that shit tomorrow you went to your dad and you said listen i fucked up and it's not
01:36:42.180
ever going to happen again it would be reconciled i bet you anything no i bet you don't know him
01:36:48.740
he's just a man you don't know him okay well it it sounds to me this is a story i hear often
01:36:55.380
right from young women it's like i'm a victim oh my horrible father did all these horrors and then
01:36:59.940
you get into the story and it turns out well actually i was a shithead right i tried to get
01:37:04.100
revenge i broke their shit i tp'd his house and did horrible things to him because he made me face the
01:37:09.220
consequence of my actions no that was because he made my sister cry because i'm vandalized because
01:37:14.820
yeah i know but here's the thing right it's like it's it seems like it's kind of this perpetual war
01:37:20.420
i am taking accountability how i literally said all the actions i've done are because are
01:37:25.780
they're based on you so how's it his fault you say it's both our faults it's your fault it is
01:37:30.580
my fault it's your fault but it is also a it's not also it's just just this just your fault you
01:37:37.220
fucked up yeah yeah but there's no also no also stop that part just me i fucked up there's like
01:37:46.740
like people react and when you're a 17 year old girl like you're literally not even an adult yet
01:37:55.060
so can you you're a week away from being 18 but you really think an 18 year old is like actually an
01:38:01.140
adult like do you think legally they are but do you do you expect them to if you're willful if you're
01:38:06.420
willful and disobedient inside your father's home what other recourse does he have but to say go taste
01:38:12.500
the world and then when you do and you realize how awful it can be without dad's protection
01:38:17.140
perhaps you'll come back come around maybe it's because when i was like 10 and like having a
01:38:23.380
tantrum as a kid normal normal 10 year old thing um maybe regular time out would have been cool but
01:38:31.940
he literally taped my mouth shut take my arms off my back take me to a chair and put me in the garage for
01:38:38.820
the night okay well that's there's so there's probably that's probably why well that's well
01:38:43.140
that's a threshold of lineation now well i'm gonna i'm just gonna intervene this is obviously making
01:38:47.380
her uncomfortable there's so what if it makes what i'm saying is is hang on hang on why does
01:38:53.060
everybody need to intervene for an uncomfortable conversation it's gonna be uncomfortable she's
01:38:56.980
fine it's fine let us finish the combo it's just wait wait really quick really quick what what's
01:39:01.380
the purpose of your intervention is it to stop the conversation no no no no i'm just saying that okay
01:39:06.980
you're making the point that she did a lot of things and she faced consequences her dad forced
01:39:13.140
her to face those consequences but we're also hearing little snippets of how her childhood was
01:39:19.460
not the best and she was right she was not treated the way she should be treated as a child we started
01:39:24.500
to hear this yeah but like yeah yeah because we're peeling back the onion that's what i'm doing right
01:39:29.620
and so now we're getting into the heart of the conversation i'm not excusing that i'm not like
01:39:33.860
so listen i'm not excusing that that's a whole different level of shit right i think that but
01:39:39.060
kids act out because they don't feel loved because he treated me like that as a young kid
01:39:43.940
because of his actions that's probably why i acted out as a teenager you learn about this in like
01:39:49.300
child is it why you act that out as a teenager because i finally had freedom to do anything like
01:39:54.340
i had a car and i can do stuff so so was it because you taped your arms behind your back when you're
01:39:59.140
a kid or is it because when you felt like you could do the thing you want to do you wanted to
01:40:03.140
do it and you did it yeah because i'm finally wanting to do it like self yeah i think without
01:40:08.340
like oh go ahead you know i think that there's still accountability for being like a father and
01:40:13.700
like yeah providing a stable relationship with your daughter and if she acts out to provide a punishment
01:40:19.780
that fixes the behavior not worsens it down the line like i don't really agree with extreme corporal
01:40:26.180
punishment and things like that and like there's literally psychology and yeah but we're not talking
01:40:30.660
about extreme corporal punishment it's not a corporal punishment to set boundaries inside of
01:40:34.980
your home and if the person does not adhere to the boundaries you don't allow them to be in their
01:40:39.300
your home anymore i just mean like in this specific example like the relationship and the upbringing that
01:40:44.900
she may have had was not a regular stable relationship like it's harder as a young person to know how to
01:40:51.940
feel how to express yourself when you aren't taught that it's met with yeah okay okay get all that but
01:40:57.140
the thing is is like we literally learned about the taping of the arms and shit one minute ago so
01:41:02.420
before that the idea here was only that okay these were consequences which were set down for the actions
01:41:08.500
that you did right which you said i take accountability for those actions now suddenly there's a pivot to
01:41:13.940
when i was 10 i got duct taped and no but like what i'm saying before there was none of that well that's
01:41:18.260
what i was saying was uncomfortable for her to speak up about the taping because how he treated
01:41:23.060
me as a kid that does impact how i will like like progress yeah progress and like you like able to
01:41:33.220
handle my own emotions like it it traumatizing as a kid so then i don't know it's just weird
01:41:37.780
i would think he would lead with that right i think he would
01:41:39.780
personally you don't want to out your parents not everybody's going to be out my dad on this
01:41:45.780
the things he's but like i would not i'm only bringing that up now because like
01:41:49.620
because you're pressing her you're actually yeah i'm pressing i was only acting out as a teen
01:41:54.340
but you don't know what i went through well i mean that's true but it's like there's no way for me
01:41:59.220
to there's no way for me to do anything but take your word to it right so i just will i'm just
01:42:03.940
saying that it's very normal for teenagers to act out and be ridiculous assholes yeah and face
01:42:10.260
consequences for that yeah and then to cope later and say the reason that is because um you know
01:42:16.580
such and such is just a real meanie head and then you get into the heart of it and you find out
01:42:20.420
well wait actually you were just kind of an asshole right you're just probably an asshole
01:42:24.580
because how he treated me when i couldn't defend myself yeah well i don't know about that part
01:42:29.380
right i just heard about it a minute ago yeah so it's like leading by example you know like
01:42:34.180
if your parental figures are not you know not necessarily a plus but if they do things that kind
01:42:39.060
of disobey your boundaries and like make you feel scared to talk about how you feel or whatever
01:42:43.220
it kind of closes off that part of like your life i don't know yeah but sometimes that's good those are
01:42:48.820
boundaries parents have to have boundaries too so parents are going to set up boundaries too they're
01:42:53.140
going to be like okay look like i don't want to hear it you know bullshit excuses for x y and z
01:42:58.980
just do it right that's totally that's totally reasonable and rational the problem is is that it seems to
01:43:05.540
me that modern women especially and this wasn't it's not just modern okay even in the 90s when i
01:43:10.820
was growing up this was a thing um that you know teenage women were often
01:43:20.340
the difference between you and i as a first generation asian american is that when i messed
01:43:24.900
up growing up i got my ass whooped and learned from it actions have consequences let's face it thank
01:43:29.860
you who cares for the tts appreciate it you said when you in the 90s when you were growing up yeah even
01:43:34.260
when in the 90s when i was growing up uh teenagers had huge issues with authority if you weren't
01:43:40.180
bending over to kiss a girl's ass right then you were a mean abusive you know whatever um and that
01:43:47.940
this trend has just kind of continued right where women try to dictate what behaviors parents are
01:43:52.740
supposed to have or not have and it's all based around femininity no masculinity which is the consequence
01:43:57.460
part and the consequence part is the important part i think it's how you execute that i think it's
01:44:04.020
really important to like make it known to your child like hey i still love you and even though
01:44:09.540
that's a feminine approach true because i'm a woman yeah no and i'm giving you the non-feminine
01:44:14.580
approach i'm saying that the the non-feminine approach is to say okay you fucked up here's the
01:44:20.340
consequence not an affirmation of like you can do whatever you want and you will still have unfettered
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access to me what i mean is i'm agreeing with you so i agree i think
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grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars and one cent no one has a regular stable relationship
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parents make mistakes but does not excuse your bad behavior and poor life choices coping and seething
01:44:46.500
about the past does no good get your shot straight i don't know like interestingly enough she take took
01:44:51.940
way more responsibility for the things that she did than most of the women who are on here to be
01:44:56.180
perfectly honest like i'll give that credit to you uh grid one thank you for the tts you were saying
01:45:03.700
you were saying you agree with andrew but well i more like and um what i mean is like how you go about
01:45:12.580
you know repercussions for your actions with your child is really important i feel and it's like the
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stability and consistency of that you know it's not like oh i spoke out of turn and now i'm scared of
01:45:26.020
my safety it's like oh i spoke out of turn i'll go to timeout you know it's like the difference in
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level of severity and irregularity of that what's too severe i think it's kind of hard to pinpoint
01:45:38.660
that's right it's hard to pinpoint so because it's hard to pinpoint right we're in this kind of nebulous
01:45:44.660
area of we know it when we see it so like i would you and i would agree duct taping a child in a
01:45:51.300
garage that's too fucking severe yeah right that's definitely that's way too much right on the other
01:45:56.420
hand you've consistently broken my rules non-stop and are causing nothing but discord in our household
01:46:02.420
you need to go go i don't think that's too severe that i understand i think it's like more so
01:46:08.740
how she was brought up and like the longevity and like of being around a guardian who does things
01:46:15.940
that literally makes it so you can't trust them like that's a hard predicament to be in and i
01:46:20.340
understand wanting to rebel and wanting your own independence would i agree with you think you should
01:46:24.900
fear your parents sorry what you think you should fear your parents i think fear has a lot of meanings
01:46:32.180
to different people i think it's the kind and like what it does to your body it's like very evasive yeah
01:46:37.460
i'm sorry um for me i myself was in a unhealthy situation with my upbringing it was um not great
01:46:45.540
so i had so much therapy and like i myself rebelled i would say do you think it's a do you think a
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child should fear their parents honestly no i mean i feel like you should this is the feminine versus
01:46:58.580
the masculine approach right i would i feared my dad i feared the consequences of it i loved him and
01:47:04.020
still do love him to death great man out of my dad yeah great man but i was terrified if i
01:47:09.380
fucked up that my old man was gonna just lay into me and he would yeah right and so you know what i
01:47:15.060
didn't do and fuck up that's why i have a clean criminal record right that's why i've never been
01:47:18.980
to jail that's why i've never uh really had any of these substance abuse issues none of that right yeah
01:47:24.420
i think it's also like important because i think boys should honestly have a masculine figure in the
01:47:30.580
household social girls i agree yeah um and like for me i never had my mom never had boyfriends
01:47:36.020
chris donated 200 my asian parents were hard on me as a kid i was resentful growing up i am now a
01:47:44.820
physician and make 100k a month and am grateful for the lessons they taught me you are not mature
01:47:51.140
enough yet realize this yo chris thank you so much for the uh tts man i don't know is this directed
01:47:58.500
at you if you want to do a response or um that's cool but i don't really want to be a physician
01:48:05.780
okay okay you were saying do you recall i'm sorry okay okay yeah so i was saying like
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i think that it is definitely a feminine approach to not want to like fear your guardian or whatever
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but like andrew gave a real example because in his case i'm assuming from what i've heard i don't know
01:48:28.260
him that well that his father did it in a way that really brought him up and like enforced being a
01:48:34.100
good kid or something like his father would kick his ass if he if he messed up yeah you know um in my
01:48:39.380
case it was like my mom has mental health issues and she would act out of turn and say if i left a
01:48:47.540
dish in the sink well suddenly things are being thrown at me so it was like for me i was in a constant
01:48:52.420
state of fear not in like uh oh i'm scared sure but i'm not talking about fear in the sense that
01:48:57.860
like you're fearing for your safety just just for nothing yeah i'm talking about fear in the sense of
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fear of consequences i think that should be a thing i think that it's important to have a parental role
01:49:07.460
with someone who you respect enough to adhere to their lessons and which of the parents do you think
01:49:11.620
is more likely to instill the fear of consequences so i'm not the best person for this because i never
01:49:16.660
had a pretty simple question which parent do you think is more likely to instill a fear of
01:49:20.820
consequences mother or the father for me it was my mother i didn't have any example of a father no
01:49:25.300
boyfriends nothing so traditionally do you think that it's the father's job to instill consequences
01:49:29.380
when the children act badly yeah traditionally yeah yeah so that's a healthy fear to have
01:49:34.420
yeah if it's executed like that yeah yeah no i would agree and i'd say for for girls and boys just the
01:49:40.100
same but today in this sort of hyper like hyper feminine world that we live in the mother's parenting
01:49:48.740
tactic is seen as as the the best parenting tactic who says that well i think that just in general
01:49:56.020
these days when it comes to parenting we see a lot of you know put them in the corner and then tell
01:50:00.340
them that you love them and then that's the way that you discipline a child but the father the father's
01:50:05.700
parental tactic is very different to that the father's parental tactic isn't oh i love you so much
01:50:10.180
and you messed up the father's parental tactic is you up here's the consequences that's it i think
01:50:17.140
teamwork is really crucial um in regular households because there are same-sex couples and stuff
01:50:22.980
i think it's like valuable because both genders add different insights to the relationship and different
01:50:27.620
people take on different kinds of roles and i think that like traditionally the man of the household
01:50:33.140
does generally have that portion of responsibility yeah you think that's just as important as the
01:50:39.780
loving and caring aspect yeah it's yin and yang as long as it's done in a way that like is healthy
01:50:45.060
to that family dynamic did you have a father figure who you have feared consequences from the thing is
01:50:50.340
um my dad wanted me aborted so he kind of dipped the moment my mom didn't have abortion so you didn't
01:50:56.020
have a father figure that you feared consequences of none i only had my mom and she was very intense
01:51:01.140
i still love her we're on good terms but yeah lots of the times when single mother households
01:51:05.540
will produce this sort of thing yeah there's hella studies on it i think obviously it's better to
01:51:11.540
have both parents because you do need i mean having a mom is a crucial role like growing up my dad was
01:51:17.860
extremely hard and strict and he was disciplinary so i feared my dad growing up if i did something wrong
01:51:26.580
but i knew i could go my to my mom's room and lay with her and she'd you know scratch my head and
01:51:33.540
i had that balance i think in this case she didn't have that balance and her dad probably took the
01:51:40.180
disciplinary actions too far as we learned and so she didn't have that she didn't have the mom role
01:51:48.420
there and so on that occasion where he tied her up that was definitely an occasion where he took it
01:51:54.340
and i'm sure that's not the only one but kicking her out and you said you went to school drunk when you
01:51:58.340
were 15 it seems like like we said there was a series of actions that led up to that consequence
01:52:03.620
but do you not think that might and that's the anger and the resentment that came out because of it
01:52:08.580
you don't think that might be like an outcome of how i was disciplined perhaps the thing is like
01:52:17.140
that's all we have to go on right it's like what you say but what i've noticed with the let's just call
01:52:22.500
it the female machine right the female machine seems to operate on feel bad for me feel sympathy for me
01:52:28.340
nothing i've ever done i need to be accountable hang on let me finish and then you can respond
01:52:32.180
right feel bad for me uh nothing's my fault i've never done anything wrong all of this i have an
01:52:37.860
excuse for look here's my excuse let me pinpoint this excuse this is what i hear kind of time and
01:52:43.220
time and time again it's really interesting so i've just asked this out of all of you who are here
01:52:48.500
who are making pornographic content right is is this really just like fuck my you know
01:52:53.860
fuck dad he's he's a piece of shit and i'm gonna go show my vagina on the internet to teach him a
01:52:58.020
lesson is that like is that what it's about no i tried to not do it for like a year while i was in
01:53:04.420
school and it was really hard doing um what was it like 40 hours a week of school 10 hour days and then
01:53:14.660
uh two days of the week doing eight hours so i had one day off a week yeah and then i'd be falling asleep
01:53:21.140
in school and like that's not good when i'm cutting hair it's not just studying like i'm dying people's
01:53:26.900
hair and cutting people's hair i don't want to i don't want to mess that up so then i finally went
01:53:31.380
back on only fans and then i mean sure but you're hardly the only person who's ever gone through
01:53:35.140
cosmetology school this is not a rough school to go through right my wife's a cosmetologist
01:53:39.860
it's not a it's not a hard thing to go through it's not like it's not like this master level difficulty
01:53:45.060
of just you know what school did you somehow somehow she was able to get all the way through
01:53:49.380
cosmetology school while taking care of her grandmother uh well i'm not going to name the
01:53:53.460
school because i'm not going to dox any of that but um but yeah she went she went through cosmetology
01:53:58.980
school while taking care of uh somebody who was invalid in her family she never had to sell her
01:54:04.340
vagina online right these things are not necessary prerequisites in other words like you being tired
01:54:10.020
in school you working 40 hours a week like okay yeah that's normal that's normal right most people
01:54:15.300
don't revert to selling nudes of themselves because they already did that right sell them so i was like
01:54:21.220
well they're already sure out there so why don't i just go back that i understand i understand the
01:54:26.500
motivation of money i want money yeah and then it gives me the free time to put my time and effort
01:54:30.900
into things that i actually want to do like hey get clients do hair i'll throw events
01:54:39.060
i dj and make music like i all again and i paint like i do a lot of things but i just
01:54:47.300
want to have the free time to put my time into things that i want
01:54:54.100
to use to grow my like future i don't know so so then so then the question just becomes is it because
01:55:00.100
you do these things because you want to or is it because you do these things because of some trauma
01:55:06.260
like which is it i do it because i want the free time because you want to yeah yeah so then then i'm
01:55:13.860
not off base here when i say okay when we come to the responsibility of the action the actual action
01:55:20.180
you say okay that's on me but then immediately point to these like other other things and say but
01:55:26.020
these bad things happen to me well that's the sympathy drive portion i'm not sure exactly though how it's
01:55:31.620
related to this thing of i want though is it like when you have issues like growing up with your dad
01:55:40.820
like psychologically that makes you later on in life like act like this i don't it's not like i mean
01:55:47.780
it's possible it's a correlate or it's possible that none of those issues have you on only fans
01:55:51.540
anyway like i don't know that's why i'm asking you i'm asking you is it because you want to do
01:55:56.500
this or is it because you felt like you were you know that's my question well i started doing it
01:56:01.380
because i wanted to get an apartment and not sleep in my car and since i already started doing it since
01:56:07.540
then like just keep doing it okay all right because like if i stop now it's like then they can just
01:56:16.740
fucking find pictures on and still find it you know might as well keep making money off of it
01:56:22.980
yeah i mean that's kind of it's kind of a vicious trap though right until i can figure out she can
01:56:30.340
invest into like a business with the money she makes right now and then she can stop forever but
01:56:35.220
some people don't get blessed you know how many uh you know how many women who are former former
01:56:40.900
corn stars and on only fans who actually go and invest in a business and are able to bank on that
01:56:45.780
business it's almost not well not me though i have like a roth ira and all of that and factory
01:56:53.540
workers have a roth ira okay like you know what i mean like it doesn't it doesn't mean that um but if
01:56:59.700
i'm working minimum wage at a barbershop i'm not gonna have the extra money to put into a roth ira
01:57:04.100
like the max yeah the cosmetologist can make a significant amount of money if they're very good
01:57:07.940
at their job two three hundred thousand dollars a year is not something they can't do they rent a chair
01:57:12.020
that'll take about like a few at least five years to start yeah you have to establish yourself it's
01:57:16.020
better when for roth iron to invest early as much money as you can as early as you can yeah i know
01:57:21.300
but here's the thing easy money easy money come easy money go as they say that's why most people
01:57:25.780
who win the lottery are broke within a couple of years you see it a lot with uh uh nfl footballers
01:57:30.740
and nba basketballers and as well they spend all their money they acquire a certain lifestyle and then
01:57:36.500
when the money stops coming when the gravy train stops their lifestyle is the same and then
01:57:40.580
eventually gets to a point where you're just broke yeah well i know they're broke with naked pictures
01:57:47.780
of them out there so it's like you know what i mean it just it never seems like it's a good trade-off
01:57:52.980
i mean i guess i got my nudes leaked when i was like a minor so like yeah we'll stay we'll still clear
01:57:59.620
that that topic i understand yeah i understand that but it's you got to think of it like um like
01:58:05.940
compound interest right yeah it's like the more you do a thing the the more that thing's going to
01:58:10.740
be out in the ethos like let's say i ever only did one debate online my entire life right that's buried
01:58:16.020
in a couple of months nobody ever remembers it right um nobody's ever going to give a shit again
01:58:21.940
right but let's just say now i compounded and i do a thousand debates in a year okay well now this is
01:58:27.780
something that the internet's going to remember this type of it so it compounds what i'm saying it's like
01:58:32.020
the earlier you stop the behavior the better it is and it also escalates yeah yeah because as your
01:58:38.020
lifestyle continues to increase if you make more money you're going to have to do more things online
01:58:43.780
to support that lifestyle yeah so it escalates i guess but it always inevitably escalates i mean
01:58:50.500
all the money right now i've been like putting into like i have like a dj okay chris donated two
01:58:58.980
hundred dollars lol she became an online prostitute and ruined her future so that she could max out the
01:59:05.700
seven thousand dollars annual contribution in her off you can't make this stuff up this home math is
01:59:12.180
ridiculous home math that's new well it's a it's an attribute to a creator very very smart creator
01:59:19.460
online who calls himself home out and what he does is he breaks down the economic models of relationships
01:59:26.420
only fans uh these types of careers and shows people mathematically and logically where these
01:59:32.180
things lead very very very smart guy that's what the the attribute is too that's what well that's what
01:59:38.580
he's yeah yeah yeah so um so when you talk about your um business um aspirations with djing what else was
01:59:46.980
it um i like paint and stuff how do you intend on using the money that you've made from of to create a
01:59:56.900
like a sustainable business we actually throw shows like every month i just threw a show in new york
02:00:02.900
and that went really good what kind of show like just we get a lineup of djs and stuff and set up the
02:00:08.660
lights and choose the theme are you a bit partner in it or do you own it uh it's me and my my uh friend
02:00:16.100
yeah do it together and what kind of a profit do you see from a night well we just started it and
02:00:22.020
it's done pretty good um i don't know off the top of my head but usually what are you what's your
02:00:27.140
job what are you are you managing the finances are you managing the tickets are you managing
02:00:30.260
she does that part she loves doing like the math and the emails and your job i do like the
02:00:34.900
crib direction and like because we do photo shoots to like promote it and stuff so are you coordinating
02:00:40.180
the djs or yeah yeah and what kind of a venue are you are you hiring and what's the what's the
02:00:45.540
capacity of the venues um right now i think the biggest one we did was like 300 how many how many
02:00:54.260
events have you done i would have to look on like the instagram at least over five over five yeah right
02:01:03.780
so how much is a ticket um we have like early bird tickets that are like ten dollars and then if you
02:01:09.220
get them the day of it's like 20 or something right so twenty dollars um three hundred tickets
02:01:14.820
it's like six hundred dollars six six thousand dollars something like that yeah yeah six thousand
02:01:20.340
dollars in a night then you have to pay all the djs you have to pay all of the uh marketing fees
02:01:25.780
all of this sort of thing yeah never do you get do you get a return from the bar i'm i'm assuming that
02:01:30.100
you don't hire the venue the the venue just makes money off the bar or or do you have to hire it
02:01:34.980
it depends from bar to bar or like from each venue like it's different right is could that be a
02:01:40.420
sustainable thing that you could do full-time yeah i think so you know like what boiler room is yeah
02:01:44.420
how many how many events would you have to do per month we try to do like once a month so once a
02:01:51.060
month six thousand dollars let's say take away generously leaving you with three thousand dollars a
02:01:57.300
month between two of you and then tax yeah and then usually we try to because we're small right
02:02:02.980
now we're trying to just we put it back into the next show so then it'll keep going if you did it
02:02:08.260
once a week it could be something yeah we're trying to do it more yeah yeah yeah good for you
02:02:18.420
sounds like a half decent business model if you did it enough and eventually you want to own a club
02:02:26.980
well you'd bet you'd have to build up for a few years do that five years of work that we were
02:02:30.180
talking about before yeah consistent events make a name for yourself big social media presence and
02:02:36.260
then you buy you buy your club all right not sure what i missed there but um talking about business
02:02:43.940
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all right so why don't we go to stifler stifler sent in the chat ask everyone to rate their looks
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on the scale of one to ten you can't pick seven going around the table starting with you go ahead
02:05:07.540
eight all right what about you can't pick seven
02:05:10.980
these two girls are so pretty i'm putting myself at six okay all right what about you
02:05:17.540
i'd say like a five or six realistically i'd say an eight i'd say a seven but you can't you can't pick
02:05:26.020
seven oh eight okay uh she's gone uh jake what about you a big fat six andrew four i give myself a five
02:05:37.860
uh so what's jordan's been on the show a whole bunch of times i think she does she say 10 maddie
02:05:44.900
do you remember she should say 10 she is a 10 bro oh okay well maybe i can ask her when she's back
02:05:51.380
and then really quick on this do you guys think you'll be better looking in 10 years time starting
02:05:55.540
with you better looking in 10 years time so you're 22 now will you be better looking at 32 um
02:06:02.820
um i don't think so okay what about you yes so you're 21 you'll be better looking at 31 what about
02:06:09.460
uh 20 years at 41 no okay so better looking at 31 but uh okay you're 19 better looking at 29 it can
02:06:18.500
only go up from here i have such a baby face unless it gets more baby facey which i think is hopefully
02:06:25.060
impossible it's i'm gonna end up looking like an adult and that's gonna look great and i'm gonna be like
02:06:29.940
a gilf for sure oh period okay no i'm just a milf no not a not a milf not a milf i may be a milf
02:06:38.020
that's not what matters it's easy to be a milf it's hard to be a gilf though that's my dream bro i
02:06:44.020
want to just be like i want to be an old lady and i want to be living in a mansion wearing all pink
02:06:49.540
surrounded by my dogs have you ever seen the little rascals yeah bro the character froggy yeah dude i love
02:06:55.940
that movie you remind me of most of my personality is made off of that movie hey i'm not i i'll take
02:07:02.180
it i'll take it that's a good movie brutality uh what about 20 years so at 39 better looking then
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yeah 49 59 i don't think i'm gonna start decreasing 109 when does if i make it to 109 i don't think
02:07:16.020
i'm gonna be looking that great then you were about to say you don't think you're gonna start
02:07:19.540
decreasing in looks until around like maybe like 70 or 80. my grandma is beautiful dude my grandma's
02:07:26.420
so pretty and she's almost 80. stop it get some help i don't know i i i don't think that i'm gonna
02:07:32.580
be like drop dead gorgeous but like i'm not gonna look really you didn't think that maybe you would
02:07:37.860
decrease in attractiveness at 80. well i mean i don't think that younger people are going to find
02:07:42.660
me attractive but beauty is like subjective for sure is it i'd say so do you think overall beauty
02:07:50.900
is subjective on a universal scale do you think that there's an average do you think that some
02:07:56.820
people are average globally there is totally a global average i just personally don't abide by it
02:08:01.940
so if there's a global average does that indicate towards some sort of objectivity in beauty
02:08:06.820
shit i mean probably i i mean i don't know i'm just well like here i want to be i want to look
02:08:14.900
like my grandma here's an easy way to look at it from um from a beauty standard from male to female
02:08:20.740
or female to male does every woman here prefer taller guys stop it if you had to choose equalize the
02:08:28.260
personalities are exactly the same make the same amount of money right same i guess uh facial features
02:08:34.260
these types of things but one six foot three and the other one well you know he's uh five foot one
02:08:40.340
that doesn't bother me what would the preference be would the preference be six foot three is he
02:08:44.180
nice to me though everything's the same except for everything yeah except for the height i don't
02:08:49.060
think i would mind either way because what would you prefer though
02:08:54.100
taller i guess you can tell that you can tell the truth i mean i guess i mean like taller i don't know
02:08:58.500
yeah probably how short how short are we five one five one okay yeah that's not a big short kang
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that's a really hard question actually y'all are is it hard i mean it's hard for me because
02:09:08.660
i don't mind either way like my last situationship was like literally like five one i'm not saying
02:09:14.260
that you couldn't be attracted to men who are five one oh i just mean like i'm just saying that
02:09:18.260
if it's all equalized it's all equalized the traits across the board i totally agree be attracted to
02:09:23.860
a man who's five foot one i'm just saying if you could pick between the two the six foot three
02:09:28.260
if the personality is the same i mean i wouldn't know because i mean for me the preference
02:09:33.060
isn't really with height it's personality so but they're all the same yeah they're the same
02:09:37.060
you just get to choose the height little buffet breakfast yeah i feel like in that situation
02:09:41.220
i'd choose it's an android okay so okay so it's an android right you get to you could like program
02:09:45.620
your perfect man mandroid right you're at the computer and you're programming the perfect mandroid
02:09:52.340
okay and he's going to be your lifelong companion right he's going to be and you get to plug in the
02:09:57.140
personality and everything else right you get to plug in all the traits that you love and he gets height
02:10:01.460
yeah what do you plug in i'm ordering it online yeah yeah you're ordering it online what are we
02:10:15.140
fuck dude i really don't know it's your mandroid it's your mandroid you get to get it this is bolter's
02:10:22.580
gate this is your you get to it's dnd you get to pick what you want um okay i guess
02:10:28.980
my height or taller to like five three that's not an option you have to put you have to put a number
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on you got to put a shorter than you or taller than you i'll just say like six three six okay
02:10:39.780
right and and how tall are you it's a big mandroid that's a big mandroid okay so perfect mandroid
02:10:45.620
height six four six four perfect mandroid height like six foot okay perfect mandroid height i mean i
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guess i can't i can't really tell the height difference okay okay hang on hang on here's
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it here it is here it is i'm five four what you're on you're on the computer you're ordering your mandroid
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right you get the first pick of mandroid so you get to type in whatever you want blonde hair blue
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eyed right redhead whatever the fuck you want right you can type in all the parameters for personality
02:11:13.460
right you can type in how many times he brings you roses per day you can type in everything got you
02:11:18.020
you get down to the heights and you type in what i would probably write i guess six foot since that's
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like such a that's such a normal thing but i feel like that would be too tall for me i don't like the
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people so what would you type in just tell me what you type in okay like what's five six five seven
02:11:35.460
and how tall are you i'm five four five okay so so universally then like at least here at this table
02:11:41.940
right now we can't extrapolate anything from this right because it's just a really small sample size but
02:11:46.740
isn't it awful interesting that well beauty standards are not universal but when you can
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pick the height of the man droid it's way taller than you right if you had a woman droid if you had
02:11:58.820
to pick a height oh yeah okay right here's woman droid right she's way shorter than me she's um
02:12:05.940
way maybe she's way way shorter than me giant boobs blonde hair blue eyed right all that stuff
02:12:12.100
you're yanking on my chain right now that's not for real you don't actually think that really yeah
02:12:17.380
are you describing your wife okay i was hoping no i mean yeah i think i think i think she'd be
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even shorter than my wife oh right on the woman droid okay you're picking the perfect woman droid oh
02:12:30.740
whoa oh my god did this guy did he not kiss his wife's ass i can't believe look do you think do you
02:12:37.380
think like do you think that that my that my wife is so stupid that she's not objective enough to
02:12:42.660
understand that you can have all sorts of like externalized preferences about people that you'd
02:12:48.580
like right even if you yourself uh aren't with the person who has those things it doesn't mean
02:12:54.420
shit you don't have to lie and be like oh oh i prefer that you have burn scars all over your
02:13:00.020
fucking face right you're like you don't have to lie about that shit it's the dumbest thing i ever
02:13:04.420
heard yeah but people kind of pretend they're like no i i would prefer a multiple burn victim it's like
02:13:10.740
what some people are into that yeah maybe but but i think that they would mostly not be telling the
02:13:16.100
truth right they'd be coping because they didn't want to hurt somebody's feelings right like if my wife
02:13:20.820
had the man droid right maybe she'd be like i don't like six foot i like six three right
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right does that mean anything does that mean somehow that um um that because i don't have
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the attribute of six foot three that in some way i'm a lesser husband it's just that's just silly
02:13:35.380
right but for some reason for women you didn't kiss the wife's ass my god and it's like it's just silly
02:13:41.460
i promise i was kidding yeah i know but you know just just the rebuttal jordan uh we were asking the
02:13:47.380
one to ten question what do you rate your looks on a scale of one to ten yes a nine there you go
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didn't you used to say ten no i never said ten i've never said ten not that delusional and then
02:13:59.140
we're going around the table on better looking in uh ten years time i don't think we got your answer
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i think i'd look pretty good in ten years okay and you're 23 currently correct yeah uh so you'll
02:14:08.580
be better looking at 33 yeah and then 20 years what about 43 i think i still look good i think hot
02:14:13.860
people hot people i think old people will you be uh but at 43 will you be better looking than you are
02:14:21.860
now at 23 like depends older i like old people man um don't tell my man this i'm kidding but like
02:14:29.780
i don't know i have no issue with older people at all and i feel like when i look at an older
02:14:33.780
answer the question so will you be better looking at 43 than you are now at 23?
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fuck yeah okay 53 30 years yeah 63 no so you peak i'm gonna get fat after that you're gonna get fat
02:14:47.780
that's my goal to get fat yes i'm gonna literally peak at 60 wait what do you mean get fat i'm what
02:14:54.420
do you mean by get that like i'm just gonna eat whatever the fuck i want i'm gonna become a little
02:15:00.660
bit lazy and you think before then you'll be in really good shape oh fuck yeah yeah yeah
02:15:07.300
okay so better looking 53 and fat yeah then 23 and in your current physique okay all right uh going
02:15:17.700
to you uh you're 23 better looking in 10 years time yes at 33 okay better looking in 20 years time 43
02:15:26.580
no okay and then better looking uh 26 better looking at 36 in 10 years time no all right
02:15:39.860
you guys heard of aging you guys know about this aging thing you know you tend to age
02:15:45.060
do people get better looking or worse looking as they well i mean i mean that all depends on like how
02:15:50.820
they take care of themselves but there's like the the i guess the hang on hang on which one of you
02:15:58.420
said that you would be as good looking at 56 as you are right now is it you would you so then would
02:16:04.500
you date a 56 year old fuck yeah yeah yeah you'd be in a long-term relationship with them i'll get
02:16:08.980
married to them but they treated me right and everything gotcha so what about if he was totally
02:16:13.380
broke yeah totally broke yeah what about if he's broke and he's got not much going for him assuming that
02:16:19.780
he treats me well and he loves me and everything like that sure let's equalize everything he treats
02:16:24.420
you well he loves you it's just kisses every last three relationships and then our last three
02:16:29.620
relationships how old dating or situationships the the actual ones where you were having physical
02:16:36.660
intimacy with the individual they're kind of um my ex is 29 uh-huh um my current boyfriend
02:16:43.620
is 26 turning 27 soon um my last situationship was also 26 okay so we're not even anywhere near the
02:16:52.740
like 50 i mean it's interesting because i would think i would think that being able to date as a
02:16:59.460
young woman 56 year old men would be super simple it would you'd be able to get if you yeah you could get
02:17:05.540
one if you wanted to i don't know yeah they're probably the guys right into that yeah yeah but
02:17:11.300
what about if you perhaps the guys that are sending you money right that you don't want to hurt their
02:17:15.140
feelings right that's actually not if you do equalize everything and you say 56 versus 26 they're both the
02:17:21.780
same they just treat you like princess right which one would you take i would choose the younger one only
02:17:27.380
because i'd have more years with my partner right that's the only reason no they're gonna die they're
02:17:32.500
gonna die at the exact same amount of years oh and you're really good at hypotheticals really
02:17:38.020
good at hypotheticals you're gonna die the exact same amount of years doesn't matter you're only
02:17:41.220
gonna get 20 years with each of them nice profile it would really depend on what they look like
02:17:45.460
they some gray foxes are really like but like just that just on average it would just be an average
02:17:50.820
pick average i think i do tend to stick to people a little bit closer to my age yeah what a shock
02:17:57.700
but somehow you're gonna be way hotter at 56 right but when you when there's a sample selection
02:18:02.340
for you to pick from a little on the younger side because of the societal views on that and how
02:18:08.260
people would view me with the man who's a societal view that's your preference yourself true lots of
02:18:13.060
younger women date 56 year old guys true i almost did heather going back to your notes you said you
02:18:19.620
disagree on their opinions on a lot of things yeah i just couldn't really think of anything like in that
02:18:26.740
moment because i'm bad at like thinking of things specifically on the spot i just kind of like hear
02:18:31.300
something and then i'm like side-eyeing it and stuff but like i don't know i just think that
02:18:37.860
everyone's different we're all gonna die do what makes you happy as long as you're not hurting anybody
02:18:43.140
why should it matter to other people what you're doing you know and in relation to what just like
02:18:49.460
my job and like my dating life you know and like what you guys do and stuff it's it literally doesn't
02:18:56.180
matter no like everything is so uncertain other than death and so it's like might as well get as
02:19:01.940
rich as i can in this messed up economy and world can you think of a start a business this is like
02:19:07.540
pure nihilism yeah i mean i don't i don't know i'm also an uneducated like middle school dropout so i
02:19:14.820
don't think that like you know like i don't think my opinion means very much at all to anyone but myself
02:19:20.100
and that's totally fine i just know it we ball i'm living a happy life and that's all that matters
02:19:26.420
you know shit sorry just living my living my best life right i i am i am my best life i literally am
02:19:34.900
i did so well for myself i mean i didn't like originally but i was kind of handed a
02:19:40.500
bad hand in life so like i did great with what i was given i think so i totally could have done better
02:19:47.220
but i'm not like i can admit i'm not the brightest bulb in the pack like i'm like i would not i if
02:19:52.500
i like tried harder when i was younger it like would backfire on me so i just gave up too soon
02:19:59.300
and like now getting back into it and like trying trying hard backfire on you um well i was never
02:20:06.420
very intelligent in school so i was in like different classes i was in i was in the spastic
02:20:11.860
classes yeah yeah i was in those classes and stuff so i already felt like i was like
02:20:17.060
weird and then no one told me otherwise so like i was very like sad about that and i would like
02:20:22.580
freak out during spastic classes yes yeah i i know i knew what you i knew what you meant but like
02:20:28.900
i think that's yeah i don't know i just kind of didn't i didn't like school i was very i was very
02:20:35.540
we need to bring it back like strumpet and so i like thought i was stupid even though i'm not
02:20:41.060
like i totally can't achieve stuff and learn stuff honestly your story's kind of tragic it's
02:20:45.780
kind of like tragic in a way i mean it's it's not tragic it's just like it's just like it's sad
02:20:51.300
because if like it is if everyone is like motivating people around them like hey you think you're this
02:20:56.820
way but maybe if you tried a little harder you'd do better i was the only one telling myself that
02:21:04.260
like i don't know i it was weird weird growing up okay uh well i guess sort of piggybacking off i
02:21:15.140
disagree on their opinions on a lot of things we already kind of tackled the like involvement in s work
02:21:20.980
and uh that sort of thing uh and the potential impacts on dating but uh let me open it up to
02:21:26.580
anybody else on the panel uh those of you who've seen the show maybe you've seen a clip from me from
02:21:30.820
andrew from jake over here uh any disagreements he's the worst yeah any any disagreements you guys
02:21:37.060
want to um tackle i know you got you you're just dying to give us uh something go off go off queen
02:21:48.340
crunk sewers um i don't know i oh my god i'm just saying i don't know
02:21:56.260
you got it what you got i think you guys are just mean mean okay we can we can go into that
02:22:01.940
what um wait what am i is it me mostly well you're being really nice today i'll say that
02:22:07.860
he's on his best behavior today the last time i was on and i was mean that day
02:22:12.100
but it was because of the dog girl oh yeah yeah that was a lot meow that was a lot i really want
02:22:18.500
to think it was actually i can't believe i still have a thing oh boy yes wolf i remember um you're
02:22:23.940
pretty mean jake what what were we mean about i was on that show so i must be the mean one is
02:22:28.340
it jake i wasn't there oh yeah he's the meanest i tried to get you i andrew you i'm the meanest
02:22:33.940
oh my imagine if i wasn't even on this show what the hell you were supposed to we were supposed
02:22:39.540
how did i get blamed i wasn't even there remember i i was like it was me you're like why why do you
02:22:45.300
do only fans and i was like because my mom's homeless and then you're like uh why don't you
02:22:50.740
do something else i said like what and you said sell sell drugs learn about crypto wait who said that
02:22:57.780
i did i don't think i said yes you did yes you did pull up the credit one thousand percent i
02:23:03.060
watched it and i was and i was like that's literally illegal like why would i do something
02:23:07.540
illegal instead of just doing something illegal if i did that would be pretty funny that is like i
02:23:14.180
swear to bob did you say you swear i think i think i swear to bob yeah at least you could get
02:23:21.460
some like social credit you know yeah people would see it's far more respectable yes yeah gangs
02:23:25.860
have good hierarchies sometimes um yeah let's get arrested for the seventh time huh so okay we
02:23:31.540
were um besides us being mean or whatever what what you got for us she said i'm the meanest i wasn't
02:23:37.220
even there i literally wasn't even today you mean i definitely think you're being the meanest
02:23:43.700
i think you are the meanest i think it's for a second she wasn't crying wait tonight
02:23:47.620
do you mean tonight yeah you're not oh today okay wah wah wah lock in i didn't cry i didn't
02:23:53.300
show the tear kayla's tough she can you're like how you doing and the woman starts crying and
02:23:57.940
they're like it's your fault you bastard no one else are you okay no no well that's why i just said
02:24:03.220
something because i felt like the tear was gonna come and i was like mommy mode right sometimes you
02:24:07.140
gotta let it stop yeah we saw you we saw you jumping in jumping in for the sisterhood oh i feel like uh
02:24:12.660
compared to most men around in my life i i respect you guys for the like compared to
02:24:18.020
like any other guy i'm around well it's because i live in san luis abisco around college boys
02:24:23.540
what do you mean you respect us more like how are they like and how are we well i respect you guys
02:24:28.740
because you guys agree with me that it's not right that a guy can claim me amongst his friends yes oh
02:24:33.540
my god yeah wait really quick just you two since the mic absolutely
02:24:41.620
thank you yeah never dated him yeah you should totally you don't have to be letting your chick
02:24:46.820
just bang your bad buddies if she wants to like obviously if you're not a cop i was not his
02:24:51.460
shake yeah what are you yeah well really yeah all right uh so was there more on what i don't know
02:25:04.420
you said you respect us more than you respect all the guys that are in your
02:25:07.700
friend group or i don't know what it was no not friend group oh okay you respect them more okay
02:25:13.940
yeah um yeah i don't know i'm just i'm hearing you guys out and i respect it okay sure uh does anybody
02:25:22.580
else ever challenge you yeah any other disagreements disagreements i talk way better with people i'm
02:25:28.020
close with and i can i can argue really well but the anxiety is real right now so i'm trying my best
02:25:34.900
okay all right nia what you got did i say your name right yeah okay blame brian it's his fault
02:25:42.100
what you got for us yeah um like about what you the way you guys are or no no just you have any any
02:25:49.060
topics you want to want to hit on or disagreements or anything like that um not that i can think of
02:25:55.380
right now no okay what about you anything for you um originally yes but then i just kept watching
02:26:02.340
more podcasts and i realized sorry and i realized it was the person not the career per se because
02:26:07.620
originally i was kind of uncomfortable with the
02:26:15.140
how do i say it criticisms of yeah yeah but then i was like wait no it's literally the person because
02:26:20.820
of how she's acting like she was i think her name was gia or something like that gia yeah
02:26:25.540
oh you saw that disrespectful and i was like wait andrew i think you were just kept looking at
02:26:30.100
probably it was like that short strumpet that was just being oh yeah you were definitely on that
02:26:34.820
panel just trolling or trying to troll yeah oh yeah i mean look i i tend to try to treat people well
02:26:43.220
and but if i start to detect a little uh trolling or disrespect coming my way then then i'll usually
02:26:51.940
spar back a little bit too so um jordan you have some stuff what you got why don't we don't you
02:26:58.020
said you want to please put me on with the andrew oh because what do you want to debate andrew on
02:27:02.900
no no no no i wasn't because i wanted to debate andrews because i wanted to listen to him in person
02:27:07.780
okay all right yeah okay um all right then you also got to look at him though that's the problem
02:27:14.660
that's that is you also have to look at him yeah that's a very good point
02:27:17.780
what do you mean poor person poor gal uh offensive truth he says uh that's the problem
02:27:23.860
why he says i just keep my eyes locked this way okay i'm confused he's ripping on me right he's
02:27:30.580
calling me uh an ugly bastard which is fair oh check your dm i see yeah he says uh thank you for the
02:27:37.780
uh nigerian nigerian 99 900 i don't know the currency trying to donate on stream labs not working
02:27:45.460
please check dm it's like a dollar message one message thank you yeah it's probably it's probably
02:27:50.260
not much uh thank you that man appreciate it jake's been ripping on me the last two you're
02:27:54.100
mean jake i tried to run him over in my car yesterday and he got so scared and you missed
02:27:59.700
next time quicker than i look quicker than i look uh okay we have
02:28:06.740
we have baby is that you that's you your first boyfriend in high school was an mma fighter
02:28:14.420
and in his sleep he would karate chop me out of the bed or or do what put me in arm bars
02:28:24.580
while you while he was asleep he was sleeping and he had no idea no idea and one time he was probably
02:28:31.540
having a dream about fighting huh yeah yeah because he would do it every day like six weeks
02:28:36.340
it's very interesting because it takes some technique to put you in an arm bar he would have to mount you
02:28:40.500
first and then he would have to swing around and put you in an arm bar she's just too nice to wake
02:28:45.780
him up and say no you should learn you should have learned how to defend an arm bar i've actually
02:28:51.620
been playing jujitsu for like a year so why couldn't you get out of the arm bar well you were sleeping
02:28:56.020
right you need to do more i would just be asleep and then i'd wake up and i'd be like what the
02:28:59.460
fuck and honestly learn a bit of boxing and you can take the karate chop it's nothing you know just
02:29:04.020
hit him back and then that good you said uh the only thing i disagree with is the way the hosts
02:29:10.260
refer to s workers in negative light at times uh but i mean we kind of kind of already just talked
02:29:16.180
about that um okay i think that's i mean i refer to it in negative light though he probably just to
02:29:23.380
be honest like always no matter what i refer to it in negative light but that doesn't mean i think
02:29:30.420
that doesn't mean i think the person has no value yeah it means i think that the occupation is
02:29:36.100
valueless yeah nia you said that you think boyfriends should should be providers in relationships yes and
02:29:46.420
then just show of hands girls at the table do you agree with her should boyfriends be providers in
02:29:51.380
relationships depends on their age though because like you can't expect if you're 18 dating someone
02:29:59.540
say you're 20 uh nia you're 23 yeah she's 23 you think 23 is that fair age to by that maybe not
02:30:08.340
expect to be completely provided for but like pay for dates yeah pay for a lot of things that's a good
02:30:15.940
idea what do we mean by provider here like what do you mean by that wait no no what do you mean when
02:30:21.860
you said maybe not pay for everything but by 23 pay for more than just dates right yeah like maybe help
02:30:28.100
them out with bills or like bills nails done and all that nails nails nails it's a kind gesture you
02:30:34.500
gotta pay for wait okay so i want to explore this a little bit uh should boyfriends should
02:30:42.980
pay uh be providers right should yes girlfriends not be prostitutes yes well if i like i said i do only
02:30:54.100
fans if i was with someone providing well okay here i'll make it simpler then should girlfriends
02:31:01.060
not be involved in sex work of any kind this is such a big yeah uh hold on i do agree yes oh you
02:31:11.460
and if i was with someone providing i wouldn't be doing what i'm doing you'd quit yes isn't that a
02:31:17.220
vicious circle though like if you say a boyfriend should provide for me but a boyfriend should not
02:31:23.460
provide for a sex worker but i'm a sex worker then that leads to boyfriend should not provide for me
02:31:27.780
right so like what right now i'm providing for myself and that's the way i'm providing yeah okay
02:31:33.860
well then let's take it to the next step should a boyfriend provide for a woman who was a sex worker
02:31:40.100
i don't see anything wrong with it if he's dating me he knows what i was doing so he's gonna be okay
02:31:45.220
he's just gonna chin it hey he's gonna i can't start dating someone that you know is so so here's
02:31:51.460
so here's our circle now the circle is no yes boyfriend should provide um unless it's a sex worker
02:31:59.380
right i'm a sex worker therefore boyfriend should not provide for me but if i stop being a sex worker
02:32:03.860
then boyfriend should provide right is it that seems like a very very bad plan right it's like
02:32:11.140
it's saying it's saying inside your own belief structure that a boy should not provide for you
02:32:16.740
right you don't think so at least not right now but when you decide to stop and allow a boy to provide
02:32:21.780
for you that he should look past the thing that they shouldn't provide for you right now that you're
02:32:25.780
doing well like i said it's what i'm doing to provide for myself at the moment right that's my way of
02:32:35.140
providing and like for example my last relationship he was okay with what i was doing sure like i'm
02:32:43.140
the next partner i date they're gonna know obviously what i'm doing totally understand all of that and
02:32:48.100
i agree with you that your next partner has to know talking to me and stuff they're gonna know
02:32:52.500
like totally agree so they're obviously gonna be okay with it yeah yeah i agree that they would even
02:32:57.540
be okay with it but that doesn't actually do anything about this inconsistency so i agree that your
02:33:02.100
next boyfriend definitely is going to be okay with it your next boyfriend is definitely going to
02:33:05.700
know right otherwise he's not going to be with you he wouldn't be your boyfriend right that wouldn't
02:33:08.820
make any sense but what is the reason that a boy should not be with you if you are currently a sex
02:33:15.140
worker versus if you're formerly one wait what is the quality here about being a sex worker that you
02:33:25.300
think a boyfriend should not fund um i'm just saying me like if they didn't like it like if they if the
02:33:36.180
conversation came up and they're like oh like would you quit i would okay so so you're not actually
02:33:44.420
saying that that boyfriend shouldn't fund their women's lifestyles if they're sex workers you're just
02:33:49.860
saying it's okay if they don't it's okay but i'm just saying that's what i prefer and that's what i
02:33:58.820
believe yeah yeah no i i think i get it you're saying you're not saying that they should you're just
02:34:06.340
saying you're just saying if they if they choose to that's okay if they choose not to fund me because
02:34:12.020
i'm a sex worker that's okay yes but i i would leave yeah no i understand yeah i understand i'm just
02:34:19.300
saying it's not that they should or shouldn't then it's just if they don't mind is really what you mean
02:34:27.300
there's not really a should or shouldn't because well right i'm talking about myself yeah even for
02:34:32.580
yourself i think they should they should yeah okay and if they don't then you're not gonna be with
02:34:37.460
them exactly yeah right yeah got it um well what about maybe the fact that we're we live in a new
02:34:43.700
generation and times are changing and a majority there are a lot of women out here who have only
02:34:48.980
fans sure and what about i was actually adapting interestingly enough i saw a um i saw now i haven't
02:34:56.500
dove into this right so this could be completely wrong right because i haven't dove into it but it
02:35:01.860
wouldn't surprise me um that it could be as high as one in 20 um of the zoomer women will end up doing
02:35:09.380
sex work of some type in her lifetime is the projection now i could be way off on that and
02:35:14.180
fact check me for sure right because i don't know for sure but it wouldn't surprise me if that was the
02:35:17.860
case right so i'm going to concede that ground right away to you okay and then like yeah exactly
02:35:22.340
how would you feel if like you found a boyfriend and you guys are together and then he starts treating
02:35:29.060
you really really well and then he asks you like will you delete your only fans for me and you go of
02:35:33.220
course i will because you guys are on understanding he's treating you right you're treating him right
02:35:37.300
i will delete my only fans for you how do you guys feel about that i'm going to explain i'm not
02:35:42.340
going to mince any words if it was my son let's say came to me and said dad i love this woman she's
02:35:47.700
great she treats me amazing okay and i just adore her she engages in sex work i'd say kick her to the
02:35:55.220
curb get rid of her absolutely not under no circumstances should you ever be with a woman
02:35:58.980
like that way too good for her in every conceivable way don't do it what would actually be the objection
02:36:05.220
to that yeah what would you disown him i'm not sure that i'm not sure that i would disown exactly
02:36:14.500
i would disown him it wouldn't be immoral if she quit sex work for him to marry her or or this type
02:36:22.740
of thing i wouldn't make a moral claim that he was doing something morally wrong my advice to him though
02:36:28.340
would be absolutely under no circumstances should you do this you know what i mean and uh it's a really
02:36:34.180
bad idea and uh you could find somebody way better than that that would be my advice yeah
02:36:38.980
there's nothing wrong with that for sure yeah i think that that's totally fair i kind of believe
02:36:42.500
that that's a narcissistic point of view but why is it narcissistic because like i said
02:36:49.140
let's get our terms right what is a narcissist um a man who just
02:36:55.140
a man a man who is just delusional honestly a man who is delusional yes you don't think it's
02:37:06.660
delusional for a sex worker to expect that she's going to get prince charming i don't i personally don't
02:37:13.620
ever expect to find prince charming i've kind of accepted that i will i think because of
02:37:18.980
well i don't understand what would the delusion here be as a narcissist no what would the delusion
02:37:23.860
here be by telling your son not to date a sex worker under any circumstances even if you loved
02:37:27.940
her if that's your opinion as a father i don't think that's delusional then why would it be narcissistic
02:37:34.340
i didn't say that that was narcissistic well then what's the narcissistic part
02:37:41.220
okay bring it back when when did i say the narcissism what were you just what were you when i said
02:37:46.180
that you shouldn't if i i said i would tell my son under no circumstances should you date a
02:37:50.340
sex worker ever period you said that sounds narcissistic what about that's narcissistic
02:37:57.060
if narcissism means delusional okay and i will say again because i think that times are changing and
02:38:03.540
i think that you guys need to like broaden your horizon sure i get all that but what about this is
02:38:07.620
narcissism uh you it sounds like you guys are wanting to own a woman yeah but what about that would
02:38:14.180
be narcissism because you can't own a woman a woman's gonna be able to still have free will i'm
02:38:19.380
sorry there's places in the world where people clearly own women right and that's that's crazy
02:38:24.260
but it's not delusional that is delusion no they clearly own them there's no delusion there
02:38:30.100
that's fucked up maybe it's fucked up and i agree with you it's fucked up but it's not
02:38:34.100
delusional that is delusional what's the delusion do you agree that they own the woman
02:38:38.740
delusional that's evil it's evil yes it's evil it's wrong it's immoral but it's not
02:38:44.180
delusional delusionals it's an untruth it's a it's not true listen very carefully you're not
02:38:50.100
listening yeah it feels like you're yeah but you're not because you're not listening right
02:38:55.300
you got to listen to the words don't tell me i'm not listening when i am but go on oh okay you're
02:39:00.340
listening yeah human beings can't own each other and have never been able to
02:39:03.380
he's not saying should hey god he's not saying should have they been able to sadly
02:39:14.100
sadly they have right so so if i acknowledge that that is true isn't that the opposite of delusion
02:39:22.180
but i'm saying that i think that it's delusional that that is a thing
02:39:26.900
okay hang on okay okay i'm not giving a moral prescription here and saying it's right
02:39:33.380
i'm just saying that it happens so i still don't understand how it's delusional to acknowledge
02:39:40.580
that there are people right now men right now who own women well i don't think it's delusional to to
02:39:47.700
know that you're right that they're delusional for owning women that's yeah okay but how where's
02:39:54.740
the delusion there they own the woman right what's the delusion all of it it's what do you mean
02:40:02.660
my delusion well yeah what does delusion mean here it's a definition thing it's not yeah what do you
02:40:08.020
mean by delusion delusion to me means not true you're living something that's not true and you
02:40:14.180
believe it is okay okay then yeah i'm just saying those guys in the wrong way yeah yeah okay maybe
02:40:19.060
they're crazy and it's immoral and it's okay evil and all that like i'm not disputing any of that but
02:40:24.180
if narcissism means delusional i'm trying to get to the part where it's delusional here like where's the
02:40:29.460
delusion when i say when i say don't date a sex worker what's the delusion here um
02:40:39.700
like you have to i don't know what the delusion is okay then then i'm using i'm not using delusion
02:40:47.140
in the right terms or narcissism maybe narcissism so maybe we mean you can agree on some other things
02:40:51.620
right so maybe narcissism is i would say it's an antisocial behavior which is extraordinarily rare
02:40:56.820
okay like super duper rare and even people who diagnose it get it wrong often and claim that they
02:41:02.900
get it wrong often right because it's there's no specific criteria where you could you could meet
02:41:08.580
all the criteria and still not be that thing so it's very hard like diagnosis right i've talked to
02:41:14.180
various doctors medical professionals who've explained this multiple times to me on my program
02:41:18.420
right it's very very difficult diagnosis so when people use the term narcissist i just want to
02:41:24.260
know does that just mean you're an asshole does that is that what really what we're saying is
02:41:29.220
like narcissist just means he's a fucking asshole no just like in my experience with dealing with a
02:41:35.220
narcissist just some someone who thinks that they can do whatever they want walk over women sure
02:41:40.820
treat women treat women however they want yeah but why is any of that narcissistic no empathy they
02:41:46.180
don't feel empathy sure you can meet all those criteria though you could be a person who chronically
02:41:51.220
lies thing is very egotistical right uh believes that you're better than everybody around you and
02:41:56.180
still not meet the criteria for being a narcissist what's a narcissist then like it's very difficult
02:42:01.060
it's a very nebulous term just like most of these psychological diagnoses right psycho psychopathy for
02:42:06.500
instance doesn't even exist it's not it doesn't even exist there's no such thing as a psychopath
02:42:10.980
there's no actual diagnosis for a psychopath anywhere in the dsm never has been
02:42:16.020
well i'm just thinking of certain people in my life and it's just like you're telling me this then what are
02:42:20.100
they are they just assholes that's well that's what i think i think that when women mean when
02:42:25.300
they say narcissist they just mean asshole right just an asshole tendencies like yeah but what does
02:42:31.300
that mean what's it so again this is it's such a nebulous term um that has so many different
02:42:37.540
criteria which it can or can't be that i'm always very very skeptical when somebody says narcissist
02:42:42.420
because i'm not even really sure what it means okay well doesn't it also mean like somebody with a
02:42:46.980
fake ego or like somebody who like hypes himself up and to the world they seem like this person on
02:42:53.060
this moral high ground but they treat the people closest to them like crap could be all those could
02:42:58.260
be criteria for that or you could meet all of those criteria and still not be it that's the way i think
02:43:03.620
it's nebulous same with a lot of these diagnoses same with a lot of these diagnoses so because of that
02:43:08.180
i'm always very cautious about calling somebody a narcissist or a psychopath or you know things like
02:43:14.900
this i tend to use like lunatic but i use it as a like a broad scope term to just mean you're a
02:43:19.940
weirdo right yeah not not as an actual like i've diagnosed you with lunacy so so but back to this
02:43:27.300
i don't think it's delusional to say to a say to a you know my son never date a sex worker no no no no
02:43:33.220
or daughter right like never date a sex worker no matter what it's not delusional yeah it's not delusional
02:43:38.420
that no so there's no problem with me saying that right there's no like objection you would
02:43:43.380
have to saying that but i think i think that that's the advice a lot of dads are going to give
02:43:47.540
their kids yeah on any parent i'm sure would say that to your child yeah just like don't date a drug
02:43:52.900
dealer like sure yeah you know like it's just you're looking out you're looking out it's a nefarious
02:43:56.900
position as long as you don't drop them and say that you don't like your kid or like you like no
02:44:01.620
longer want to associate with your kid just because they you know follow through with it you know
02:44:06.260
would be wrong with that yeah you like if your kid raised that kid yeah but if your kid if your
02:44:10.900
kid became a sex worker that say you don't love your kid and that's not love your kid those are
02:44:15.300
two different things disassociating from a child doesn't mean you don't love them no i'm not saying
02:44:20.900
that i'm saying like you physically you like tell them no i do not like you anymore you are out of my
02:44:25.060
life forever yeah you can exclude them from your life forever doesn't mean you don't love them
02:44:29.700
well i'm saying they told you they don't love you yeah well that's different right so if you just
02:44:34.500
directly say to someone i don't love you yeah i think that there's a distinction sure that's the
02:44:38.020
only thing i would think that would make that situation yeah i'll grant that distinction right
02:44:41.380
i just don't think that that's what happens i think that parents tend to distance themselves
02:44:44.660
from kids who do horrible things they don't want they don't want that association with their family
02:44:48.500
that seems fair to me yeah i don't know i just i i just like your bad news it's just not that deep
02:44:54.340
you're doing problematic things and i don't i don't i don't want the association with my family name
02:44:58.980
right yeah that's totally fine seems reasonable yeah i think it's reasonable to want the best for
02:45:05.060
your child it's also important to consider that there are societal norms and like the state you're
02:45:10.420
in the state you're in the continent etc and every family has different dynamics and different
02:45:15.060
expectations for their children so it's like totally you know valid to not want your child if that's true
02:45:20.820
then why would you ever say the universal word better it's okay to want what's better for your
02:45:26.340
okay if that just means a ton of different things to a ton of different people right then what then
02:45:32.020
i don't know what we're even talking about when we say better i would think that we would agree on
02:45:36.100
on some things with better so here's maybe some universal agreements for better that you and i can
02:45:40.820
agree to i want my kid to be really healthy healthier than me do i say yes every time well i'm just
02:45:48.740
asking you do you agree that that's better yes okay i want my kid to be able to make more money
02:45:54.660
than i did i think that's better yes okay i want my kid to have a um like a kind of a very unique
02:46:04.020
standard in the world where they're able to pursue their dreams in accordance with the morality of
02:46:09.620
christianity if that is your belief i respect it so yeah it's better that's your household these are all
02:46:16.500
better right yeah when the kids so then so then so then by this standard then what's worse right
02:46:24.100
i think it depends on the paradigms within a family and what that family expects of their
02:46:28.580
children like for example my mom has been supporting every step of the way i actually
02:46:34.100
asked her before i started i said hey this is really important to me i need your approval before
02:46:37.780
i start this like what about your dad i don't have any access to him at all he wanted me aborted so
02:46:43.700
he just stopped contact so so the fatherless home right yeah yeah i think that uh chase used to say
02:46:52.020
this a lot and he'd be on the program that he associated fatherlessness with sex work and i think
02:46:56.340
that there's a lot of truth to that because if you look at sex workers come from single mom families it's
02:47:00.260
it's pretty overwhelmingly high right i think that generally speaking it seems to be the dads who put
02:47:06.580
the kibosh on that right they don't want their their daughters to uh engage in that like i think
02:47:12.900
from from the perspective of a father it's like revolting to them right just totally yeah no i would
02:47:18.260
hope so yeah i don't want my dad to be if i well i don't have a dad either he's in prison but um yeah
02:47:24.580
there's a theme here tonight if my dad were like all like happy and stuff about like my only fans i feel
02:47:32.260
like i'd be very uncomfortable yeah that would be really weird i don't know my my grandma and
02:47:37.780
grandpa they don't i don't know why is it less weird for your mom to be supportive though my mom's
02:47:42.020
weird i think it's weird oh i think it's weird isn't that is i mean but but you see what i'm saying
02:47:45.700
like why is it would it be less weird for the mom to be supportive than the dad to be supportive to
02:47:51.540
me it's like it's like equally it should be equally revolting to both i would tell me i don't want to
02:47:56.580
know about it and if other people talk to me about it i'd say why are you you're weird for telling me
02:48:01.140
that like i don't need to know that about my kid yeah like it's none of my business personally i just
02:48:06.100
don't hurt yourself i feel like i'd be a little sad if it was like like like i don't have any issue
02:48:12.500
with porn stars but like well where i was going with this mental health i'm glad you brought this up
02:48:16.580
because where i was going with this idea of better so this is my ultimate question do you
02:48:22.100
think it's better if you have kids for them not to go into sex work is that better i'm yeah yeah
02:48:30.100
better better better no i'm like thinking about it for okay better better but if they wanted to i
02:48:39.220
wouldn't judge them then okay so you'd let them do something like what if you were the deciding bloke
02:48:45.860
if they're like i really want to do this mom and i think you'd be really good at it it's going to
02:48:50.180
make me a lot of money okay and you were the deciding vote if you said on the one way go ahead
02:48:57.860
and do it that would be the deciding factor for that kid and they would go ahead and do it versus
02:49:01.940
if you said don't do it that's the deciding factor and they wouldn't which way would you fall
02:49:08.260
i would let them do it if they wanted so you would say go ahead because i do it so why would i
02:49:14.100
tell my kid they can't do it oh well that's true i smoke why wouldn't i tell my five-year-old they
02:49:17.860
can't smoke yeah but does that does that i mean does that make sense right like am i going to choose
02:49:25.140
am i going to tell my kid oh i want you to be a doctor you're going to be a doctor like no that's
02:49:29.380
not you're gonna no no no that's a there's a distinction here in the pursuance in the pursuance
02:49:34.340
of career so the askance here is like i smoke cigarettes my five-year-old my five-year-old
02:49:41.220
comes to me the five-year-old comes to me and says dad you smoke you have you have no business
02:49:47.780
telling me i can't and me comparing it to being something is different why what's the difference
02:49:53.940
that you're making an argument from hypocrisy yes you can't tell them this because it would make you
02:49:58.820
a hypocrite sex work okay i wouldn't judge my child if they want to do it but would it be better
02:50:04.340
yes i said before i said yes it would be better but if they wanted to do it i wouldn't
02:50:09.540
then you would tell them to do the thing that wasn't better
02:50:14.260
i'm yes i know but i'm saying i wouldn't yes it would be better so how do you want what's best it
02:50:19.940
would be better it would but if you're supporting what they want so wait wait hang on i want what's
02:50:24.740
best for you yes okay okay but you're the deciding vote i'm not asking you to do any of that nobody
02:50:31.300
has to do any of that you're just the deciding vote you can just based on your advice at this
02:50:35.940
critical moment right right now when they say mom i'm going to do this i'm going to make a lot of
02:50:41.540
money and you even foresee hey she's a beautiful girl she can probably make a lot of money right
02:50:45.860
you're the decider your advice at this critical moment of saying don't do this she won't do it but
02:50:52.180
if you say go ahead and do it she will do it if you hang on hang on let me finish the question
02:50:57.140
if you say it would be better if you're not in sex work and you say i want what's best for you
02:51:01.780
then how would you not say not to do it that's what i don't get i would say that's but like no like
02:51:07.620
no because it would be best for them but if they did do it i wouldn't be mad i wouldn't feel any way
02:51:13.220
like they could do what they want but you would advise them not to yes okay got it would you advise
02:51:19.460
them to smoke if that kid did come and say mom i want to smoke how old are they 20. if they're 20
02:51:26.900
if they came to me and told me they wanted to smoke i would say yes if they're with me
02:51:31.460
mom i want to do heroin no mom i want to do crack no why but i mean i don't know it's the train of logic
02:51:39.300
why not it's completely different how so because it is because there's negative connotations on a
02:51:49.220
person's life they do the thing right and so we're looking at the negative outcomes and consequences
02:51:54.500
of the thing that you're doing and so if you're looking at the negative outcome and consequences
02:51:58.660
of being a sex worker right then we're looking at what's best this would be the same thing it's like
02:52:03.540
crack cocaine right it's best that you don't smoke crack right it's not the same thing why how is that
02:52:09.540
the same thing well we're making an analogy cocaine is completely these are both cups right but they're
02:52:15.140
both cups they're hang on they're both hang on hang on stop hang on they're both they're both cups
02:52:19.620
right yes is this one made out of paper yes and this one made out of glass well then they're two
02:52:25.540
different things but we can still make an analogy right using the two hang on hang on if i said if i was
02:52:31.460
talking about the filling of the cups we could still make an analogy based on the cups even though
02:52:35.700
they're not not the exact same cup because everything on planet earth is different from
02:52:39.860
everything else that's why we use analogies right okay so you're saying weed cigarettes are the same
02:52:43.620
thing as heroin no i'm saying that the logic for what is best would be the same right so what is best
02:52:47.780
for you so i'd say okay if i'm thinking best and say okay don't smoke that's what's best for you
02:52:52.340
so don't do sex work to what's best for you the logic entailment would be exactly the same
02:52:56.740
what's best so when i say okay i want what's best for my kids then i'd be looking at the big picture
02:53:03.140
of what is best of my advice i'm not saying oh if you started smoking junior that's it you're done
02:53:09.220
you're out of the will the fuck out of here you don't ever come back right but if i was the critical
02:53:14.420
vote if they were going to do it one way or the other based on what i said then my vote would be don't
02:53:20.500
do it right that's what's best that's all i'm saying does that make sense yeah yeah
02:53:30.660
i feel like you you phrase your questions a certain way make us sound stupid and then you
02:53:35.460
rephrase it and then agree with us he's actually doing the total opposite what he's doing is he's
02:53:38.980
trying to make it as simple as possible for you so that you can understand it and then he still
02:53:42.740
mans your case and explains to you what you think and then he brings you to the logical
02:53:47.540
conclusion it's the actually it's actually the opposite he could easily use sophistry to confuse
02:53:52.660
you if he wanted to but he's making it as simple as possible and the reason i want to make sure
02:53:56.500
it's because i want to make sure you understand where i'm coming from so that's why i always repeat
02:54:00.180
back what you say to me what you mean is x yeah that's what i mean okay now i know why haven't i felt
02:54:05.780
that way this whole time then because most people don't like the entailments of their positions
02:54:10.580
which means most people haven't really thought through what it is that they think about certain
02:54:13.780
things and when you ask probing questions they don't like they can they can foresee that by
02:54:18.740
answering the question it's going to lead to an answer that they themselves don't like
02:54:23.620
and so they become very resistant to answering the question because they know it's going to end up
02:54:28.180
with uh-oh fuck this doesn't make any sense right but i feel like for the most part we haven't really
02:54:33.140
been resisting you've been like coming to an understanding you well no you haven't been evasive but um
02:54:38.740
you haven't been evasive because like he says very poignant with the questions right and i just
02:54:44.100
that's why i steel man the position just want to make sure i know exactly where you're coming from
02:54:48.500
you know and by the way you're welcome to cross-examine me too that's totally fine
02:54:53.540
in fact i encourage it right that's that's how people get more consistent views okay you guys can
02:54:58.900
ask us anything you want well not i mean not anything but within reason it's like within reason
02:55:06.180
ask andrew anything wait andrew and ryan yeah ryan ryan ryan how many girlfriends do you have
02:55:14.900
how many girlfriends do i have or how many girlfriends have i had oh no do you have do
02:55:19.060
you have i've got zero your friends yeah what makes you think that ryan over here had lots of
02:55:23.940
girlfriends oh no reason damn it ryan you're run through you think i run through like that no
02:55:31.780
it was a comment on there and i read it unbelievable what led you to ask that skill that was very
02:55:37.220
subtly done very well done i just sorry i'm basing it off looks it's fucked up basically i'm saying
02:55:45.060
she's saying you're hot dude yeah yeah she's like actually you're not a five
02:55:48.660
can i get your number thank you she doesn't find very many men physically attractive so
02:55:54.020
boy you're i think it's the australian accent yep probably it's probably the accent yeah for sure
02:55:59.860
and the eyes the hazel the eyes what if i told what if what if i told you though that there's a
02:56:04.580
country that you think exists i'm not going down that road what if i told you see those pills
02:56:16.740
what if i gave you that red pill and you knew the truth about a certain place
02:56:20.500
where they all have that accent yeah there's more of them fun fact really somewhere somewhere
02:56:28.340
i honestly what andrew's doing is he's engaging in typical what we'd call misinformation or
02:56:33.460
disinformation and he espouses conspiracy theories about australia not being real and honestly it's
02:56:40.740
one of the most damaging things that's happened i remember that bombing campaign
02:56:48.180
oh my god now i feel terrible they they hit the port of darwin which was up north of australia but
02:56:54.660
unfortunately this is the thing and i'm sure didn't they carpet bomb the entire south no oh just the
02:57:00.900
north you girls will be able to agree with me here that andrew doesn't really have the emotional
02:57:04.820
intelligence to actually engage with this sort of high level debate so we're probably going to leave
02:57:10.420
it off the table for this one but i'm with andrew i don't even know what australia is it triggers a
02:57:15.060
certain yeah well this sort of triggers a certain trauma for me a trauma response yeah
02:57:20.500
why don't you show them any australian currency show them any do you have a single australian
02:57:25.380
dollar on you jake a single one jake we need proof this is yeah it's the sort of thing that you see in
02:57:31.540
the dark corners of the internet this is where andrew sort of operates the dark dark corners of the
02:57:36.260
internet um not really in polite society at all and you guys probably have realized this about
02:57:41.940
andrew by now but he operates within a paradigm that's yeah yeah this is ridiculous i'm glad i
02:57:47.780
found your soft spot the one thing i know will piss you off so australia do you hear this slander from
02:57:56.180
your guest i'm never coming back here this is just ridiculous i did hear it uh slander disavow disavow
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rebuke rebuke disavow all right welcome back everybody um so we have a single dollar single
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australian dollar not at this stage not at this stage i tend to operate on a high level
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on my level of decline i'll be right back actually okay low key just use like a like a monopoly dollar
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and just like right we would know we would know i i listen i have my ways of verifying these
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dollars these supposed dollars i'm just saying have you ladies ever heard of an aboriginal
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anyway there's a guy named metro matt in the discord bullied me into giving champagne champagne pop
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another one w noah w metro thank you noah we appreciate it brother
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um so yeah guys dude noah you're you're a legend noah you're a fucking legend dude you're dude noah
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you're a you're a freaking a freaking legend bro a freaking legend bro noah thank you man i just
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want to really quickly put this debate to bed once and for all yo metro matt thank you for the gift
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andrew has been persistently online spreading these honestly dangerous conspiracy theories that actually
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put me in physical danger for years and he's been asking and and the one pillar that holds up
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his entire ideology i'm actually not okay the one pillar that holds up his entire ideology is about
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australian dollars so here you go show it to the camera this is english currency sir i thought that
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was canadian that's not what is yeah see it's canadian she knows so what what we've just seen we're now
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seeing an emotional response and there's going to be much more fallacies coming out but what we've just
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seen is the actual world view and ideology of andrew wilson and generations of wilson's to come
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it just looks like it's just been destroyed i am not gonna sit here and put up with this kind of
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pretty yeah he's lying to us american dollars is the ugliest i wouldn't want to spend it this is what fake
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paper looks like he printed that men will do anything honestly that in the library
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uh so really quick i'll show him here i knew one of these 304s would rage quit
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it is is that actually is that real chat yep and then uh right so andrew obviously rage quits
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the stream when confronted with his uh rage quit andrew wilson i'm putting it in the title
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all right yo noah thank you so much for the champagne pop uh let's see while while i do that um
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is brian off getting burritos you know what dude i will not tolerate this burrito stuff
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yo metromat metromat donated 200 noah is based discord is based let's spice up this panel brian
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oh that was hot holy fuck dude that was a gnarly one when he says pop the cherry but it's actually
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champagne okay uh let's see so what's everybody's uh body count going around the table
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just while i'm filling up the champagne here uh maybe maddie you want to help out a little bit
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carly carly carly my name is kayla oh what oh yeah yeah every time
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i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry okay so i'm gonna say i i think like 40. how much 40.
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12. the micropenis does not count well i'm do you count the micropenis
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penis that does not count the micropenis does not count no that definitely counts
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that counts even if it's like poor guys like oh man i feel like what about you anyways um like
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are we counting girls or no how about give us girl count guy count um with a guy here here hold
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on hold on scoot your mic to the edge of the table no more scoot it this way edge edge of the table there
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you go okay go ahead go ahead um okay so i with guys it's definitely six okay um and with girls
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it's over it's over 10 but i just like i don't even i don't think counting in my head and doing
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like the finger calculator type thing is it just i don't know i get drunk and then i do a lot of
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crazy with girls so i don't really remember okay all right what about you it's the honesty my body
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counts like 10 okay like 11 maybe maybe 11 okay two not sharing between me and the man upstairs
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okay it's a better answer i'll use that one next time rock and roll uh all right once uh
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uh what's it called oh uh why don't we uh i think we all poured the champagne noah i want to thank
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yo thank you so much noah i really appreciate all your support in tonight's stream and and uh
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other stream you know what i'll tell if we get one more champagne pop
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i will send madison down and get me a burrito and i will eat some of it on stream can i have some
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of your burritos no no no i'm very whoa is that is that is that i will eat hey hey wait you know what
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i zoned out for something what happened you don't you you don't you uh no
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she's picky and burritos are her favorite i'll eat it i'll eat part of it on stream
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like part of the burrito on stream oh my god i am a bit what's this thing with burritos yeah noah
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thank you metro matt thank you so much man he's everyone gets a burrito you get a burrito
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i make the best burritos i bet you do i can prove that jake is a similar
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wrong i can actually prove it i can prove it prove oh yeah i can prove that jake is not telling
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the truth okay about very quickly sure on the australian okay okay i have been told
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the people who pretend to be australians alcohol is poisonous to them jake all you have to do
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is take a drink of this alcohol right here to prove me wrong
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that was water no no there was nothing in the cup bro nothing in the cup that way actually
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there was what is that red stuff anyway just one this is compelling evidence can we call it nothing
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oh you can't do it you're gonna agree to disagree you can't you can't do it bro i don't think he's
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australian what's the matter you can't do it bro's been sober for like eight years and you gotta take
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because it's because jake doesn't drink he's gonna take one sip and get so drunk this is like the jfk
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assassination never get solved he's gonna take one drink and say what he really feels we don't know
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we don't know i just want to i just want to put into the record he did not take a drink he did not
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take the drink i did not take the drink austin we have a couple things we got to react to right we
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have did you by the way just double check the dating app is it is it clean it's clean all right let's uh
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let's do that then all right we have heather's dating app we're gonna do dating app review
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all right next is this tinder yeah i don't use it i i don't know what i'm doing here who wants to get
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drunk okay next is okay next next and then wait go back one open to exploring i don't want children
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bad texters sagittarius and is there a bio or anything or do you have a um yeah i just didn't
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know if you guys oh you didn't send the bio so i yeah i wasn't i didn't know when you guys were
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talking about well let's go down to the nasty sewer real quick where i can um it's it's okay it's not
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even it's a repurposed sewer so it used to be perfect it used to be like a sewer but now it's like the
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water that goes through it is clean and stuff no no way i wouldn't swim in it i'm just saying it's
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not like it's not like there's like an empty wire spool down there and trash you know what maybe
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that's my vibe living life on the edge i like it it makes me feel like good to be in the woods
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especially if it's like spray painted up that's not the woods that's a like a little piece of sewer
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that's here that's like under a creek or like an overpass it's my favorite goalie there's her
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it's my favorite spot okay i don't want to hear it's her favorite spot it's so pretty i just wouldn't
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go in the water the rocks are really pretty too shit fair enough you would have a great time down by
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that sewer i i don't i i i promise you i don't go and play around sewers do you not like the woods
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that's not the woods going under a bridge that has point that has some ivy is not that is not
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under a bridge it's in the middle of the woods point there's not a sewage runoff in the middle
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of the woods that's insanity like what you don't know where i live washington i know i know how woods
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work and unless you're living unless there's civilization there's no sewage yeah i mean there's
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yeah i don't even know i don't i don't want to speak out of my ass right now so i'm not going
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to just say stuff not knowing what's going on what are the other reacts we have what are the other
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reacts we have oh yeah we'll do kayla's tweet the what what do you do what did you do
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yeah okay let's do uh the tweet and then that side
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i wish i was born a man sometimes that was it that's the only tweet i just thought
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why because you you like want a helicopter what do you want no because i feel like um
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for example just like most industries are male run and
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literally i i sent the exact same text message and my friend did
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about like interviewing some artists and they didn't reply to me but they replied to the other
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guy well what evidence do you have that that's because you're a woman well okay i don't have it's
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not like 100 true but yeah it's just it's just like i just feel like men automatically give
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men more like they're gonna give the same opportunity if they have the same like qualifications
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for things they're gonna give it to a man because like their side or like they automatically like
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respect a man or take them more seriously well i mean there's been some studies on this and they
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found that men actually have an out group slight out group bias for women and women have a fairly
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large in-group bias for other women so i don't even know if that's true and then you have affirmative
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action that's witnessed in academia and in corporations which gives women preferential
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treatment in hiring practices additionally most hr departments that are responsible for hiring
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are predominantly staffed by women so is it true for example like when my friend wanted to start
03:10:16.100
learning how to dj or like make music um you're talking to these guys and then they'll tell you
03:10:23.460
they want to help you like learn they'll teach you and then you show up and no they actually just
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want to fuck you yeah yeah i've dealt with that and it just sucks because they are lying and saying
03:10:34.580
that they want yeah that's wrong they get your hopes up majority of the time but if i was a man and i
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said the exact same things then they wouldn't want to try to fuck me then they would have actually
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been truthful well they just wouldn't help you at all yeah they wouldn't do anything then i wouldn't
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have to like go through all this bullshit of like saying like oh you're gonna teach me and like help me
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but and like feed me all these lies but really you just want to fuck me yeah and it just sucks
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because like i just want to learn well i agree with you that it's wrong for men to sort of have
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ulterior motives in this in these sort of situations and circumstances uh i think it'd be far
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better for them to just be up front and be like i don't want to teach you anything exactly i would
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appreciate that too like dylan joe donated dylan thank you so much appreciate it excellent panel
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tonight jake andrew brian don't know why but i want to build a cabin in the woods with you guys
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uh well btw last week girl said i used a slur against japanese girls not my intention yeah that i know
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what you're you just uh i don't think that was your intention either man and uh you're all good
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dylan you were just using uh shorter shortening the characters so you could fit the tts in but
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we're not going to build a cabin in the woods together bro that's that's for next season honestly
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that sounds like a great time to me well going back to your thing like you said that uh you
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wanted to get an interview with like a it was a singer or a dj or something an artist an artist
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um did this male friend of yours when you say interview was this going to be published somewhere
03:12:12.660
yeah okay and did you guys work for like a magazine or what was just a media outlet that you worked for
03:12:18.660
the same media outlet working together you were going to be the interviewer wait you were working
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together yeah for their media outlet and so he reached out and they replied to him but not me
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but you both reached out yes well wouldn't it be sort of like for example if i get an email and
03:12:35.780
like two people from the same company email me there's like a duplication there on there i sent
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it earlier yeah what if he was just better wait so when you say you when you say he sent it earlier
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i sent it earlier excuse me and then he didn't reply so then how early like a day or two and then he
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sent the same thing but what if you sent it via email both were talking both were on text message
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oh text message okay so maybe he didn't even get to respond to the message i mean yeah it could be
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that i'm not sure if it's because you've got a pussy that was just one i'm not sure it's because you have
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a pussy example i knew there was something you know i always get confused by this so it's like
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something unfavorable or something bad happens to a person who has this character trait whether it's
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race or sex or whatever and this bad thing must have happened because i'm a member of this race
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or this or i'm a woman because men don't do this but um yeah so it's i'm always confused by this
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though you need actual evidence of like something that would point towards the reason this happened
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is because i'm a woman not just a bad thing happened to me i'm a woman it ergo it happened to me because
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i'm a woman one time me and my friend who run the dj collective we were booked for a show and we're
03:14:00.660
supposed to go in before the show starts and security is like you're not a dj you're a girl wow
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and then he was like yeah people say sexist things sure joking he was joking but like
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just to even say that is like just up yeah it's not hilarious you know it's crazy you know it's
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crazy this one time what she wants to be taken seriously yeah i know i know i mean but if it was
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if it was funny to you since the joke was made at your expense it wouldn't have been funny to
03:14:31.220
everybody else that's that's how jokes it's just like was he joking i think he said it was a joke
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afterwards after we showed like literally proof that so i would even take a different angle from
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ryan right like i would even say i would go the other direction and be like yeah of course these
03:14:46.020
guys just wanted to bang you of course they did right of course they're going to want to train
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other men how to do these things because they think that intrinsically they're going to be better
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at doing these things than you are yeah and so yeah they just want to have sex with you to makes
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total sense to me i know it just sucks well i mean so so you're saying that you need men
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no i don't need men well then why does it suck because i just want me why can't you just find a
03:15:09.540
chick to teach you it's more predominantly male dominated industry so you need men i don't it's
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circumstantial well i don't understand if you want to know this skill and men gatekeep the skill
03:15:22.180
and you want the skill then you need men right no we don't just look it up on youtube it's just like
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why lie you don't need men i don't need them then you they didn't need to do any of this right well
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like it's easier to learn in real life versus like a youtube video so then you need men i don't need
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who teaches you that in the youtube video is it men no there's girls oh so you learned you only
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watch the female youtube videos or oh my goodness gracious shut the fuck up silent terror donated 500
03:15:52.900
dollars wait let's get this burrito party started w discord w chat w whatever podcast this is half of
03:16:02.660
the champagne no no no no no no no no no silent hero uh you triggered you triggered the shut the
03:16:12.980
fuck up message um which means you got to mute someone's mic it uh uh wait so shut the okay i'll
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allow it no donated 500 dollars other half of champagne pop right here all right jake take a drink
03:16:30.900
we'll allow it go get burritos all right to the crucible crew not one step back boys not one step
03:16:38.020
back noah thank you and then uh silence thank you man all right i guess uh maddie's off to go get me
03:16:45.300
a burrito uh yeah yeah i'll uh text you the order um or maybe do we send no we're gonna send it
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i think we send morgan what no extra cream moment what the hell no uh yo thank you man appreciate it
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i i i wait is this it is a champagne pop can i get another champagne this is not burrito
03:17:08.660
i actually have something to say another one another one another one uh let's see what oh really
03:17:15.940
quick while we are doing that uh so i'll come back there we're gonna tell you what's up this podcast
03:17:22.740
all right so offering these girls substances brian
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they look really upset by it i'm so mad i'm gonna leave and go and do this i guess oh no what
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wrecked brian wreck okay what is going on all right i don't know that is disgusting excuse
03:17:51.380
that is that's my that's disgusting that's so hot can you do it again you know some people pay for
03:17:58.740
those burps put it in a little jar for me yeah they're disgusting that's disgusting oh
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but i actually have something to say just make my dick go soft what um like i have another reason for
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why i want to like try to be a man for like at least one day wait what because you want to hump a chick
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right oh because you want to hump a chick no are you sure that that's not what you're gonna say
03:18:24.180
i want to i want to get i want to get just i want to know what it feels like to get a blowjob
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oh my god it doesn't need to be from a chick it could be from a dude too i don't care as long as
03:18:34.820
i'm feeling exactly but if you were a man if you were a man you probably wouldn't want one from
03:18:40.340
a dude there you go i feel like this is something that men and women think about like what it's
03:18:45.700
like to be the opposite yeah never thought about it for a second not mine is only because you
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thought about it right now the thought of being mounted by a man is completely the opposite
03:18:57.060
i don't even know how women are attracted to men being being a dude is just
03:19:00.580
awesome like honestly i have no idea okay what would you do if you like just woke up and you
03:19:06.260
were become a nun okay so you wouldn't like so you'd be the most just look it's boring
03:19:12.740
oh yeah of course you'd have to you you'd have to clean yourself exactly you'd investigate
03:19:18.340
i think every man would do that okay who wants to like wiggle it um i have a question
03:19:26.340
kayla you want you want a little more um sure do you guys have applesauce yeah damn really how'd
03:19:33.220
she know bro i don't actually a lot of ketchup really a lot of ketchup i have ketchup packets
03:19:42.180
yeah i guess at this point i'll settle for ketchup packets anybody else yes please no i'm fine
03:19:47.140
she's got it she's don't help her oh don't help her i'm busy you don't need no man she's a strong
03:19:56.820
independent strong independent woman taiwanese woman she doesn't need a man let's anybody else are we
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good i think everybody all right cheers to silent hero and noah r salute salute
03:20:13.060
oh he's drinking from the ball oh look at that he's chugging oh there's a lot in there oh my god
03:20:27.540
a little bit of fizz oh wait okay i'll uh that's what it's like being a woman
03:20:30.340
that's what it's like i'm trying so hard to repeat this now i don't want to go and eat
03:20:46.260
uh i'm waiting for kayla to until we do some more reacts but uh let's see oh you had a question
03:20:53.140
on a remote was there a snack like a little baby one i think there's some chips back there no snacks
03:20:59.460
for you yeah i'm getting a little bit munchies oh so i'll wait till we're okay word all right so
03:21:07.540
a couple questions here oh wait actually hold on i we didn't really fully because i was asking you
03:21:14.420
if uh you said boyfriends should be providers yes should girlfriends not do only fans
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um should they not yes i feel like it depends on the guy okay but i don't see here i'll open it up
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i'll open it up to the panel should should men be providers i think you said yes yes or boyfriend
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should be providers should girlfriends not do only fans i agree with her i think it should be up to the
03:21:47.780
relationship okay yeah i think it should be up to the relationship with both but but why are you
03:21:53.060
so you guys are able to say men should do this but why can't you say i don't but but when it comes
03:21:58.900
to females responsibility but even you even you would have to say that you have standards for how
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men need to to behave i i honestly uh am not the brightest i let i let i do i don't know i'm the
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provider usually if he's nice and he loves me what i have issues why do you think i need to stay
03:22:20.900
single i need to stay single because you're gonna date a guy who sucks off horses okay you got me
03:22:26.180
there you did get me like i would put him do we have any do we have any standards for where we start
03:22:31.460
here or i there is a thing that come from so so so our standard is heroin okay sucking off horses
03:22:37.940
one bridge too far i don't know i don't i'd prefer he didn't do that but like i don't know
03:22:43.860
what if he only sucked off what if he only sucked off one horse oh it's only one oh boy
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no that's like this is can i not say that any well anyways so it's it's bad okay so it's not the same
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as here should should should boyfriends be providers like where did that go bro
03:23:13.940
just trying to establish some okay yeah you found one should girlfriends not do only fans i think
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she's figuring that out okay okay hear me out so i think that if you you meet a woman and she has
03:23:22.740
no only fans you guys can start dating and then once you get to a secure spot the woman should not
03:23:27.540
have an only fans okay i'll come back to that but okay should men be providers yes should women
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not do only fans or sorry excuse me what girlfriends i keep messing it up should girlfriends not do only
03:23:41.620
fans um if you start dating them and they already have only fans it's kind of like weird to expect them
03:23:53.700
to stop when you knew they're already doing that but if you're you started dating and then they started
03:23:59.140
making only fans while you were dating i think that's this whole this whole thing about so you
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just repeat it again so if she if she was already doing only fans like he should know that going in
03:24:10.820
right yeah yeah but like i could just say the same thing about like you guys making your should claims
03:24:16.180
about boyfriends being providers well you know if he's like a 50 50 guy well you know you go you know
03:24:23.540
that going in but you guys are making should no claims you guys are saying men should do this and
03:24:28.900
so i'm essentially trying to point out should then women not be involved in sex work correspondingly
03:24:35.860
you're you're wording the question one way you didn't say 50 50. i also think that that's okay
03:24:41.140
like a 50 50. no no but you said men should because you were the question like that and i said yes
03:24:47.060
no well yeah but it's sort of the same because you could be like no men men shouldn't have to be
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that they can be 50 50. okay and that's right and i would date and in fact i would date let me let me
03:24:59.540
just have a bit of a back and forth here yeah sure and so my confusion around this whole thing is that
03:25:06.100
even though you guys you're involved in sex work it's very non-traditional very modern woman you have
03:25:12.020
these traditional expectations of men men should be providers men should be chivalrous but y'all are not
03:25:20.580
like traditional traditional women you don't dress traditionally you don't have a traditional demeanor
03:25:28.900
maybe you were involved in sex work it's not traditional so you y'all should be like okay i'll
03:25:35.700
i'll be the provider or at least i'll be 50 50 with the dude but you still you still want men to be
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traditional that's where i'm confused like all these non-traditional women y'all still demand and
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it doesn't even have to be of girls that you can be an oh uh like a normal girl but still not be a
03:25:52.580
traditional woman you could be masculine you could have all kinds of feminist brainwashing all that
03:25:58.340
shit but again my confusion is y'all are non-traditional the way you dress the sex work
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but i want my man to be a gentleman and chivalrous and all this stuff i'm confused explain well
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i want the i i don't know i don't expect anything traditional from my man i i just want him to be
03:26:19.220
like the bare minimum of being a good person but i just because i do what i do for work doesn't mean
03:26:24.180
i'm a bad person didn't say that like exactly so although i don't think all women think the way
03:26:29.860
obviously that you're saying right now like wait i went around the table and every woman here said
03:26:34.740
men should or excuse me boyfriends should be providers i don't think you remember what i said
03:26:38.820
you actually didn't ask past her no i i asked her i asked her maybe you might have been up so i went to
03:26:45.300
her and her and they all said yes so what's your answer to the question then i just think that it's it
03:26:50.980
depends on the relationship but you should it like if you both decide hey i make more money i want to
03:26:57.140
be the provider then you know like it shouldn't just be like oh the man provides and he has to provide
03:27:04.020
it's like if he ends up providing that's what you guys agreed on but like if she ends up providing
03:27:10.340
because that's what's better for like you guys perfect i don't know i just think that it doesn't
03:27:14.980
really matter there shouldn't be like a set person doing something specific like whatever you guys
03:27:20.660
decide find a middleman like me in the middle uh what's the word okay so you go on the first date
03:27:26.500
with a guy you you're fine 50 50. yeah or even i usually pay i always try to pay so that i can let
03:27:32.740
them i don't know it just well i'll go ahead and remove you from the conversation because you don't
03:27:36.500
have contention with my point exactly so going to you you you and you and i mean you don't do only
03:27:43.140
fans so you're not really part of the conversation really uh again should girlfriends not do only fans
03:27:57.380
i don't think that they should but why would a man even message or whatever be interested in a
03:28:05.940
girl that already does it like who doesn't want to like they want that well they want to have sex
03:28:11.540
with you i don't care they're no i'm talking about like a relationship though and providing like there
03:28:17.700
well there are okay so why would you message a girl knowing she does it if you're not going to
03:28:21.700
well here's the thing here's the thing out there who would provide for girls who do it yeah so here's
03:28:27.300
the thing i will concede to yes you're 100 right there are simps and frankly pathetic men who despite a
03:28:35.300
woman's refusal to bring her own traditional standard to the relationship these men know
03:28:42.820
that these women have a traditional expectation on men women know that despite how modern they
03:28:50.260
themselves are how non-traditional they themselves are they can still demand men to be traditional
03:28:57.380
and so i acknowledge this what i'm pointing out is more so i don't think that that's
03:29:05.060
one fair for the man i think he's a simp if he does it and i don't think women who are
03:29:10.660
non-traditional deserve it so you can still get it there's plenty of simps out there there's
03:29:15.860
plenty of guys who are desperate for pussy desperate for relationship desperate for anything who don't
03:29:20.820
have any boundaries standards or preferences that's true but what i am saying is is that
03:29:28.260
from your end i don't think it's reasonable i don't think it's fair that you have the expectation
03:29:37.380
that men should be providers when in other words of falling into their traditional gender roles
03:29:44.100
when you're not following into your traditional gender roles so how do you reconcile it i do get that
03:29:50.820
i do understand that's it makes sense but like i said why would someone even come to me knowing i do
03:29:57.780
that like why because they wouldn't if they didn't want to like you for example what do you mean like
03:30:04.660
let's say like why would somebody want to be with me knowing that i do that if they're not if they don't
03:30:11.860
like it if they're if it's untraditional well okay i've already i've already granted that despite what
03:30:18.740
what you do there are still going to be men who are going to simp and spend all this money and still
03:30:22.580
be providers despite your lack of traditional nature they're still going to do it right because
03:30:28.980
they still want to fuck you they still want to get with you they've sort of accepted the new social
03:30:33.940
order the new order uh but what i'm pointing out is that i don't think that that's a fair shake for men
03:30:41.700
and i think it's in addition to that despite them accepting the unfairness from your perspective
03:30:51.380
why do you demand traditional treatment from men when you're not a traditional woman yourself
03:30:58.340
well like i said earlier if my partner wanted me to stop i would that's not that's not what i'm
03:31:05.220
talking about though so what are you saying that i'm just not traditional so why do i want traditional
03:31:11.940
i'm asking how you reconcile it like okay you're like here are my standards for a man
03:31:18.980
he has to give me chivalrous traditional treatment right is that true like for example if a guy took
03:31:24.580
you on a date and he was like you know two checks to the waiter and you had to pay for half of it
03:31:29.140
would there be a second date no okay so you have this if he asked me on the date no there wouldn't
03:31:38.020
okay right but you do acknowledge that people will go on dates and oftentimes they'll be the
03:31:45.300
man who asks and they will end up splitting the bill right yeah it does happen yes it does right so
03:31:53.620
i'm trying to understand like this gendered expectation that you have well the way i was
03:32:01.300
raised in my family my dad was a provider okay and he taught me no but sorry not uh was she involved
03:32:10.980
in sex work no okay he still provided and he taught me that my partner should provide that's what what
03:32:19.700
hold on wait so your dad's a traditional man yes he's a traditional man took care of the household
03:32:24.500
and he taught you that so it's interesting women when they're being raised they're told
03:32:33.140
here's how men should treat you and boys are taught here's how you should treat women
03:32:39.060
but you don't hear as much as much pressure on here's how women should treat men here's how women
03:32:46.580
should conduct themselves i find that interesting but just because i do only fans doesn't mean i'm treating
03:32:52.180
a man wrong does your father know that you do only fans yes and he's okay with it yes he really
03:32:58.740
he has no quarrel with it he's is he a provider yes just are you he lives locally or yes do you live
03:33:07.460
with him right now you live at home i just moved back here do you pay rent yes why the need to do sex work
03:33:13.540
right now you've got a roof over your head probably food right yes but i mean so he's totally cool with
03:33:23.540
it yeah i mean he's a provider but i think i don't think any father should be okay with when their
03:33:31.460
daughter doing it when you're doing um when you're doing this right on of there's a live chat right
03:33:37.220
a live chat yes yeah um my my one challenge that i always try to give to uh a woman who's on only
03:33:46.420
fans who says her father's okay with it is to remove themselves from the video right and just say hey dad
03:33:53.940
this is what my live chat is read my live chat right only my live chat you can't see me
03:34:00.260
right during one of my streams and then and then hang on
03:34:08.340
i i just would like to know if your dad read just the live chat right
03:34:15.460
a live chat of you doing one of your streams if he would be for you doing only fans after that
03:34:22.100
well my dad knows what only fans is that's not my question that's not my question like
03:34:26.660
i'm pretty sure if he read one of the live chats about what goes on if he read one of your live
03:34:33.060
chats right just the live chat do you think that he would still be for it
03:34:44.900
okay my parents you do it under his roof you make the content under his roof no where do you go
03:34:50.500
i have a studio so yeah i want to ask a quick follow-up question so if there was say i was a
03:34:58.660
guy who was uh living in my parents basement didn't have a job was broke a bit overweight a little bit
03:35:04.900
of a pussy like couldn't really protect um and but i was sitting there saying that i deserve
03:35:10.260
talking about me bro but i was there saying that i deserve a woman who is going to cook for me clean
03:35:16.580
for me have my children and do all these traditional feminine things but i can't do any
03:35:22.020
protecting or providing would that be a reasonable thing to expect
03:35:27.540
no but i'm not saying that there's nothing i can bring to the table
03:35:31.780
i mean i actually understand your arguments but it's actually a pretty good one
03:35:35.540
so your argument here is just like look um if i expect traditional treatment and a man's willing
03:35:42.260
to give it to me right he's the one who's reaching out to me he obviously clearly knows
03:35:46.260
what it is that i do that's on him that seems reasonable to me yeah that seems totally reasonable
03:35:51.460
to me um i look at this from a different angle and get your guys's input on this the angle i look
03:35:58.660
at it as is um from my perspective you just women who are on only fans and moving into sex work just
03:36:06.020
kind of whittle themselves out of the gene pool ultimately and what i mean by this is just this
03:36:10.900
your selection sample size is going to be less than other women right so even if you're really
03:36:17.940
really really pretty there's lots of really really really pretty women who don't do sex work
03:36:23.780
so if you were a traditional man let's say um you were very staunchly christian believed in christian
03:36:29.220
ethics this type of thing and then let's say you you kind of absorb some of the more red pill ideas of
03:36:35.300
want to have a nice body and i also want to have a lot of money and this type of thing but i'm going
03:36:39.940
to keep these kinds of like principled underpinnings to go with it seemingly according to the data that
03:36:46.020
i've looked at women really like those types of men right really really like them but if you were one of
03:36:52.180
those types of men why would they ever choose you well if the available uh kind of pool that they can
03:37:00.020
choose from is you minus the sex work wouldn't they go for that
03:37:07.780
yeah yeah so from so from kind of judgment yeah so kind of from my perspective it's like
03:37:14.260
it seems like you're you're setting your feet on fire to warm up your hands
03:37:18.500
right it's like it just seems so silly to me i i actually don't really understand it i just never
03:37:24.100
want to rely on anyone to provide for me or take care of me i want them to want to but i also don't
03:37:29.220
really care i think that i can take care of myself and i you know what i don't really care
03:37:34.420
about a man who like provides for me and i don't expect that or you know it's really funny because
03:37:40.020
in the role of traditional and when i think traditional i think christian foundation christian
03:37:45.380
ethics that's for me is what tradition means if i got really sick my dad got really sick he had
03:37:50.580
multiple sclerosis my mom took care of him for 25 years i would like to think that if i got really sick
03:37:57.060
my wife take good care of me i hope so right i'd like to really think that she would because she
03:38:01.140
would right she just would um so when this idea comes up of like i don't need nobody i wouldn't
03:38:06.740
feel any shame by that yeah but i'm not i'm not talking about that i mean just money-wise like
03:38:11.700
if i'm like if i need help i would absolutely ask for help but i just want to be able to provide
03:38:17.380
for myself money-wise in all situations especially if my significant yeah i totally i totally
03:38:22.260
understand i'm not even not even kind of beating you up on that what i'm saying is is that if if
03:38:29.700
the kind of like underlying idea here is i want man who has these qualities right he's dependable
03:38:37.620
he's emotionally stable he has a really good ethical foundation and he works really hard on himself
03:38:43.780
right and all of that is going to be kind of put to you you get to have access to that right but he
03:38:50.660
also has a selection now right he has a selection and he can choose from the multitudes of the
03:38:57.140
beautiful women who are available why would he choose the one that did sex work yeah and i honestly
03:39:02.900
if he does if that's not what he's into then he absolutely shouldn't and he shouldn't feel like he
03:39:06.500
has to so when brian asked this question traditional behavior for traditional behavior what he's really
03:39:13.540
asking you is like if the expectation is i would really like to have a guy who's like that it seems
03:39:20.260
like you're shooting yourself in the foot to get that guy because his selection size is much larger
03:39:27.300
right that just kind of stands to reason right i guess i'm just glad but what's really funny is that
03:39:32.020
every almost every girl who's on only fans right even the board ones like her almost all of them say the
03:39:39.140
same thing which is that they're gonna get they're gonna get that guy that guy is for them and they
03:39:46.820
are going to get him and then you fast forward 20 years right at least from all the women i've talked
03:39:53.460
to they don't they don't get him you can say womp womp
03:40:02.500
literally i mean maybe at 40 you'll go back and re-toilet paper your dad's house i don't know but
03:40:08.100
the rest of us for the rest of us who live in reality right the reality is is that really high
03:40:13.540
status men don't want to date horse i'm really glad i don't like that's the reality like i'm living in a
03:40:19.140
really happy little reality where there's no judgment i don't give a hoot or a holler or think
03:40:23.460
about that stuff because if i find the guy that i want i'm gonna figure it out and he's not the guy
03:40:28.740
for me if he cares about my job especially young ladies who come on this podcast is that they're saying
03:40:33.460
yeah but i'm happy that's because you're young and you're in a stage where you're in your
03:40:37.780
most attractive years and you'll get guys who will just simp for you so if you've got guys
03:40:41.860
for you all day long on the internet then you're going to boost your do you know what the rates are
03:40:46.980
for lesbian divorce um i don't want to get married very high i want to live the rest of my life happy
03:40:53.220
with someone i don't need to get legally married to live the rest of my life happy let's just say
03:40:56.660
it's common law it's the same thing just just you cohabitate you know for me to find a man that
03:41:01.780
it's okay with me not legally marrying marrying them like i feel like that's they would all be
03:41:06.660
okay with that it's like the biggest risk factor for men really yeah the biggest risk factor for
03:41:12.020
every man every straight man i've ever been with which is the first two boyfriends i had um they
03:41:18.020
were not cool with me not wanting to get legally married and i don't know i don't know i just yeah
03:41:24.260
but did you say okay we don't have to be legally married but i'm going to be exclusive with you forever
03:41:29.380
enough kids yeah that's a whole different i mean i'm not having biological kids
03:41:35.220
why because i hate babies i really really don't like i love other people's babies but to have a
03:41:42.420
baby i don't think i'm like i i don't think i have enough uh patience for that she's self-aware
03:41:49.060
so you want to adopt adult kids no i like i i grew up my whole life raising my little siblings and
03:41:56.260
they were she didn't want to have biological kids yeah like babies i don't want a baby i want
03:42:01.700
like a toddler like you said you hate babies yeah that was pretty harsh i don't know i just kind of
03:42:06.660
said that so that you guys could be like this only fans girl hates babies you know that's going to be
03:42:12.100
a really good thumbnail do you do you do you think that you hate babies or do you think that you
03:42:16.980
she hates babies um no actually i wanna when i do decide to have a kid i'm gonna adopt a kid and
03:42:24.740
then i'm going to like live out where i'm not saying where but i'm going to move and we're just gonna
03:42:30.980
it's gonna be me and them against the world and we're just gonna travel a lot a few kids move into
03:42:35.380
the woods and just gonna go for it is there going to be a sewage absolutely there is going to be
03:42:41.220
so much sewage all around me dude i love trash come on yeah one of those households
03:42:50.580
i guess going to the traditional thing it's like so many women have like completely abandoned and
03:42:57.860
abandoned and cast aside and any and all traditional uh gender roles yet with the almost
03:43:06.420
utmost entitlement still expect men to adhere to their traditional gender roles you still want a
03:43:13.140
masculine guy you still want somebody to protect you you still want a provider but i want to be a
03:43:18.340
non-submissive dominant modern boss babe woman who wants to do sex work and go to the club and dress
03:43:25.620
promiscuous and dress revealing i think that that did you just say yes i mean as in like you you're
03:43:32.180
like hell yeah i agree or you acknowledge the degeneracy that's that's what she was that what
03:43:38.900
you want yeah i explained what i want basically okay described is what she wants yes yes but so it's like
03:43:46.820
like you demand all the privileges and benefits of liberalized society while still demanding that men
03:43:56.820
take on all the burdens of traditional society you disagree or no i just i just see her making faces
03:44:04.820
she's so bored oh it's so terrible all the attention's not focused on her for five seconds
03:44:09.700
yo y'all just keep putting words in our mouth wait what words am i i'm i'm not i'm not we want all
03:44:15.460
the attention on us no no we're just pointing out the reality of the situation how did you get
03:44:19.460
included how did you get included in this i got invited yeah but how did you get included in the
03:44:24.660
we know you're on the podcast yeah but but but how did you get included with the the criticism
03:44:29.620
there for us could you just assume she's wanting all attention she right not you she did she does
03:44:35.140
no she does we see this over and over and over and over again on this podcast when the attention
03:44:39.460
goes off them for a minute they all start start slouching over even though even though arguably
03:44:45.300
she got the most attention of any girl here i'm sorry what are you what are you guys talking about
03:44:50.260
it might be i might be slouching because i've been on stream for almost four hours did you guys think
03:44:54.660
of that what's the longest only fan stream you've ever done oh i haven't done an only stream almost four
03:45:00.500
no no i've never done a stream on only fans what this is the first i thought i'm sorry
03:45:06.980
what type of sex works do you do just solo solo what solo custom i don't know well how long has
03:45:13.620
that taken but we're not that hardcore it always takes five minutes yeah five to ten well this is
03:45:19.620
this is also this is also a special easy come easy go yeah this is also especially rude given that uh
03:45:26.660
nia over here when we're actually trying to engage with her she's actually spoken the least
03:45:32.740
of any panelists yeah so why'd you interrupt and say that you guys could have kept because you're
03:45:36.660
making faces at the camera being obnoxious yeah okay so we were just trying to be nice and like
03:45:43.140
let the other guests so you cut her off camera like no it's just like just just keep talking you're on
03:45:49.540
yeah but you are on camera is the thing well like it's like huh yeah it's like rude to be looking like
03:45:55.140
if you were on a date with somebody and like they were looking all bored and
03:45:58.980
shit or you were looking all bored like that would be rude it'd be disrespectful in this case we're
03:46:05.220
live in front of like 10 000 people we're trying to have a conversation with her it's a panel show
03:46:10.340
not everybody can talk at the same time it's just like be chipper it's not that hard there's also why
03:46:15.620
we don't talk at the same time okay for sure yeah maybe she didn't realize she was making those
03:46:22.180
faces yeah yeah literally oh yeah she did she had no idea yes like gas no idea just maybe she just had
03:46:29.300
no clue wait why are you coming what every time every time with the sisterhood it is a sisterhood
03:46:35.460
major i'm just bringing in different possibilities no no no no but here's what's interesting what's
03:46:50.340
wrong with that no hold on but this is what what's interesting about like women the women's sisterhood
03:46:55.540
thing is that women will very rarely come to the defense of any of our positions but the woman is
03:47:01.700
clearly acting i have backed you so many times what so many yes on the no not tonight look did i
03:47:10.900
say tonight i said so many times this is so many times when you couldn't see it no on the other
03:47:17.140
podcast stop stop stop stop this is how women escape accountability because other women will come in and
03:47:23.220
be like well let me try to justify let me try to justify and explain away this conduct wait hold on a
03:47:29.940
second you guys back each other up too literally how is that relevant at all because i i was just
03:47:35.780
saying maybe she didn't realize she was i'm sorry wait wait i'm just being a devil's advocate i'll
03:47:39.940
refute this i'll refute this hang on what do you mean we back each other up i'll refute this in two
03:47:44.100
seconds brian completely disagreed with her position and i immediately agreed with it i said wait i can see
03:47:49.940
exactly where you're hang on hang on hang on i can see exactly where you're coming from i understand
03:47:54.100
your argument it makes total sense to me that was my literal words yes yes and his words were i don't
03:47:59.860
understand your position so wait not only did we not back each other up but we had completely
03:48:04.260
different viewpoints i didn't say that you always back each other up the difference was is that when
03:48:09.940
he was questioning her i was quiet and let him go through and was interested in what was actually
03:48:15.620
going on with the other panelists right that's a distinction but we totally had a completely different
03:48:20.740
view on what happened right i don't see anything wrong with me just pointing out the fact that
03:48:24.820
maybe she didn't realize she was making a face did you realize can you were you trying to sabotage the
03:48:30.100
podcast yes or no can you acknowledge also can you acknowledge also that she could be lying do you
03:48:35.940
acknowledge that yes we could all be lying okay right so let's acknowledge that but we are all in
03:48:41.780
hopes that we are all telling the truth so i'm just saying maybe she was truthfully not aware
03:48:55.300
okay so i'm just i'm just like this nah making faces instead of tapping oh are you sure i put my
03:49:02.740
mouth in the bottle oh shit you got herpes what the fuck that makes it extra good
03:49:10.900
she wants the wilson shut up brian eat your burrito brian
03:49:15.220
and to be fair the only reason i said that is because sometimes i will make a face and not
03:49:23.060
realize it also what's burning yeah literally it smells like his chicken bro it's a skunk
03:49:31.140
desmond are you eating drugs yeah but it's not my chicken no dude no it smells like a
03:49:35.460
skunk that smells like it could be a skunk yeah it smells pretty rank welcome to california it's
03:49:41.540
probably a skunk ew really i don't know that kind of skunk but yeah sometimes i make a face i don't
03:49:48.100
realize there's skunks okay anyways um good times good times um the whole traditional stuff ruin your
03:49:57.220
whole day that is so bad that's like are there not skunks in michigan's i shoot them bro oh
03:50:05.380
nice okay we take them out we don't i thought it was me on a cute little date
03:50:17.780
here let's uh let's do the react austin to the website so have any of you ever
03:50:22.900
used this website i heard about it in the stream a couple weeks ago uh it's called
03:50:30.020
what's your price so women go on this site are you they go on the site and they basically men will
03:50:39.060
bid for dates and it's typically anywhere between 100 i think 100 or 200 for date have any of you use
03:50:44.900
this site never really never ideas no but some girl was on a couple weeks ago and she's like that's
03:50:51.540
200 is way too little if you want to get me on a date with you yeah my friend goes on dates for a
03:50:56.180
thousand yeah a thousand dollars literally i i don't say that i like to do it i'm just saying i
03:51:02.100
would never just like and then they always expect to get laid too but no you're just paying for a
03:51:07.620
day buddy mine don't i that's why wait hold on you said didn't you say that like women so disadvantaged
03:51:14.980
but women can go on dates and not the guy for a thousand dollars oh yeah not even hold hands so
03:51:21.460
wait isn't this evidence of women kind of having like dating and life on easy mode hey i never said
03:51:27.620
we in this in this field no no she said it okay we're lucky with money for sure i think right but
03:51:34.420
she said girls be going on dates for a thousand dollars and not even fucking the dude never and have
03:51:40.500
you done it have you been on a date no i've been on a lot of you've never done like a date not like
03:51:43.940
a sex date like a date no i haven't no sugar daddy stuff okay no i cut all mine off recently have you
03:51:49.860
have you done it yeah multiple times how many how many times over ten like i'd have how much you
03:51:55.300
charge 500 to a thousand per hour okay per hour per hour ah the plot thickens okay all right so what's
03:52:03.620
the most total you've been paid for a date maybe it dates two three four hours right um most was like
03:52:09.460
two hours like 2k because i got bored yeah okay wait you got bored yeah and then you cut the date
03:52:14.740
short yeah even though you're making a thousand dollars an hour yeah how boring was this fucking
03:52:20.260
guy he was like i don't know he was in finance like what are you doing bro what okay um how old was he
03:52:30.980
i don't even know he was old bro i took my wife out for the first time in years
03:52:36.340
an actual vacation to an actual vacation first time in years and years and years we spent five
03:52:42.100
thousand dollars i thought she was gonna have a panic attack oh my god
03:52:46.420
do you use a thousand dollars for an hour for a day i thought she was gonna have a panic attack
03:52:52.100
you're like five thousand dollars yeah so i just make steaks at home baby we could just have steaks
03:52:58.420
at home we don't have to spend no five thousand dollars period you do you boo
03:53:02.500
un-fucking-believable it's not life on easy mode though well there's a lot of risk you really have
03:53:08.180
to like vet these guys i send my location to all my girls like it's not like a easy piece yeah i've
03:53:13.540
almost been kidnapped three different times now oh it's a lot of risk when you know i i've never done
03:53:19.140
that before i've never done that before don't laugh at that i'm talking about why not it's laughable
03:53:23.460
like the absurdity is laughable once again by the way just pointing out once again sisterhood
03:53:34.420
something they can sell themselves that doesn't mean it's an advantage it's life on easy mode
03:53:40.980
it sounds like it's life on easy mode it's not sex work is it's really hard it's a mixed bag but you
03:53:47.380
have to go you have to talk to this guy it definitely is mentally because they could have
03:53:51.700
kidnap you they could literally like do so many things and it's a lot of risk like i cut all that
03:53:58.020
off recently doesn't sound very risky then every single person would be doing it well it seems that
03:54:03.940
so many people are doing it exactly because it's easy it's like you never heard that one if it was easy
03:54:15.860
i have a bite no it's for brian but it's about to get stinky
03:54:23.220
chicken guacamole let's go boys all right here we go i want to see a mess
03:54:27.620
all right andrew's gonna pound uh the burrito i'm oh i'm not pounding
03:54:32.740
the champagne you're pounding the champagne all right all right this is the last already i'm not
03:54:36.100
gonna eat the whole thing are you gonna eat right now i guess so because torturing you is fun agreed
03:54:42.420
that's not nice even she knew it was a joke second i say anything captain saver just right in there
03:54:52.820
i love her when someone gets on my nerves nothing they say it's like i can't like
03:54:58.260
do it i don't know every time you say something i assume it's me i want brian to slowly eat the
03:55:06.180
burrito while staring into the camera that's pretty kinky
03:55:13.300
stare deeply go brian's big old burrito eat that shit eat that shit taste good okay listen there might
03:55:19.940
be some previous burrito lore that you guys are not privy to what's what i asked you no one told me
03:55:26.260
what i'm there was there's previous lore on this burrito thing that you're not privy to
03:55:31.780
and it's it's sickening that your disgusting minds go right to some kind of bizarre kink fetish
03:55:37.140
by the way eating i said can i have some of this burrito earlier and you guys were the one you were
03:55:42.340
like whoa whoa whoa that's the one who was talking about the ones that made a sexual i didn't even
03:55:48.340
think of it that way i'm sorry did i have a basic standard for behavior when somebody said oh yeah
03:55:54.020
a heroin addict yeah sure i'll be with them and i'm like what about somebody you
03:55:57.460
fucked a whore well that's too much i know me i was the one that's weird me trying to
03:56:03.860
find some standard for what i won't for what i want it's like what
03:56:10.580
he thinks of that but not what it's like to be a woman for a day
03:56:13.460
oh yeah it looks well you're the one donating a hundred dollars to be a woman for a day
03:56:18.820
no i'm saying you've never just imagined that burrito is no i don't want to be a woman
03:56:25.460
well not that that would happen but dude be a conniving
03:56:30.820
bitch it's like you've never had a dream of like being able to
03:56:33.700
no i don't have any dreams of being a woman nope none you fatty
03:56:42.020
okay she got you on that one right she got you on that one
03:56:47.380
jay jay eakin bro it's kind of like the kettle calling the pot black
03:56:53.620
you know what i'm saying it would be the pot calling the kettle black whatever
03:56:56.500
andrew don't damn canadians french canadians wait how do you say burrito in french i think
03:57:04.100
it's burrito burrito or i don't think there is a word
03:57:14.820
the french don't do mexican words all right all right all right okay so i did have a question
03:57:23.380
i've been kind of wondering about this let's um we're gonna we're gonna go into like hypothetical
03:57:29.300
world here for just a second okay nothing to be afraid of i'm just i'm just curious about this
03:57:36.660
question okay let us assume for a second that um you had a male or a female and it was just a
03:57:47.460
random sampling of a male or a female so take all the men who exist all the women who exist it's going
03:57:52.820
to be a random one okay one of them is instructed to lie to you and the other one's instructed to
03:57:58.260
tell you the truth okay one's instructed to lie one's instructed to tell the truth
03:58:03.940
which one do you think would be more likely to tell you the truth the woman the woman
03:58:11.300
the woman the woman unfortunately the woman the woman i honestly don't know i mean you don't know i
03:58:17.620
i don't know that's why they choose i don't know who do you think would be more likely to tell
03:58:21.380
tell you the truth a woman or a man just forget that for even forget the hypothetical who do you
03:58:25.780
think would be more likely to tell you the truth a woman or a man i don't know it depends on your
03:58:32.820
relationship with just a random sampling random sampling any random man any random woman oh he
03:58:39.080
made a little yeah that's the second spill of the night i'm redeemed i'm redeemed just the second
03:58:42.980
spill of the night that's why they hire women to do like trafficking stuff you know they hire women
03:58:48.540
because we trust women it's just a random sampling all the men in the world all the women all the
03:58:54.280
women of the world no it's not 50 50 okay then i'm confused i don't trust either stop and listen
03:58:58.220
take all the women of the world that that exist all the men of the world who exist okay
03:59:03.880
and which one do you think would be more likely to tell you the truth you just took any random sample
03:59:11.220
of either and put them in front of you who would be more likely to be truthful to you the man or the
03:59:23.100
think about that the reason i'm hesitant is because there are a lot of reported cases of females getting
03:59:30.400
younger females into yeah things like that sex work yeah but the kind that you can't leave sure
03:59:38.480
so for me i'm like fuck bro i don't trust either like yeah you have to pick one terrified gotta pick
03:59:44.780
one really can't i don't gotta pick one women trust no one never gonna happen hypothetical
03:59:49.420
no no no like all hypotheticals are not gonna happen because they're hypothetical
03:59:56.340
so anyway so so now that we're done with that with um maybe you can engage with the hypothetical
04:00:03.720
it's not gonna happen a coin you'd flip a coin so you i always flip a coin you have to pick one
04:00:09.140
yeah my one when you put no you don't have a coin there's no externalities you have to just pick one
04:00:15.580
which one would you pick oh there's a gun to your head you have to pick now kill me uh man uh woman
04:00:21.920
whatever okay she just won't engage but a man or a woman
04:00:26.440
i i've been fucked over by both genders but a man a man you think a man would be more likely to tell
04:00:34.780
you the truth yes no no no no no okay which one would be more likely to tell you the truth a woman
04:00:42.380
i i genuinely just think it's pretty equal for me yeah i know but you have to pick one
04:00:52.200
i guess the hypothetical is you get shot in the head because you couldn't choose
04:00:57.980
gun i have mental illness girl yeah i don't trust men sorry um
04:01:03.700
can we come back no okay just i just need to know if it's gonna be a man or a woman you would choose
04:01:14.660
a man man yeah man man yeah i would definitely trust the man uh so to those of you who said man
04:01:25.660
on this side i'll start with you why would you choose the man over the woman
04:01:29.260
in my experience men have been more upfront and honest with me and they're not worried about
04:01:39.680
hurting my feelings okay women will kind of and it's not i wouldn't say it's a bad thing but
04:01:46.260
we might say a little white lie to protect each other's feelings no kidding so wait a second so
04:01:54.120
wait a second you know well you agree too to man yeah okay so you're saying that a woman may lie to
04:02:01.780
you about something which is important in order to spare your feelings yeah like i won't tell another
04:02:08.080
girl she's fat even if she is even if she is gotcha why would you pick the man i agree with what
04:02:13.840
everything that she said okay yeah why would you pick the man for me i've just had more threats that
04:02:20.580
were females so with my personal sample case i've had a more negative experience with females
04:02:26.380
bucking me over than with men gotcha and why would you pick the female um because i don't know men just
04:02:33.840
scare me a lot i don't know i was thinking yeah we're just talking about truth statements no i was
04:02:38.940
thinking when you said they can't hurt you it's just all about whether or not which one's gonna tell
04:02:44.020
you the truth which one's gonna lie you didn't i i guess you just didn't i promise none of no there's
04:02:48.400
no they don't have a like a nuclear bomb or an axe or anything i just personally like women a lot
04:02:54.820
more than i like men okay so you just think that the woman would be more likely to tell you the
04:02:58.900
truth i'm a yeah okay i'll take i'll take a woman or man yeah i would i would like to change i think
04:03:04.220
i would believe a man over a woman you'd believe a man over a woman yeah exactly yeah man so okay so i
04:03:10.920
just want to make sure i got this right because we ask this man versus bear thing all the time right
04:03:15.020
i think it's the wrong question to ask this is why i'm asking this one so i just want to make sure
04:03:18.980
that i got this right all of you except right as you lol paladins donated two hundred dollars and
04:03:26.320
two cents if a man or a woman offered you a free breakfast burrito which breakfast burrito would
04:03:32.680
you be more willing to and we'll get to that just a second we're gonna get to it in a second
04:03:35.880
we're gonna get to it in just a second but what you're saying isn't the entailment of what you're
04:03:43.520
saying is that you're more likely to trust a man than a woman to tell you what is true
04:03:46.900
yeah isn't that what you're saying is that you're more likely to trust a man or a woman to tell
04:03:52.480
you what is true isn't that what you're actually saying is that you're more likely to trust a man
04:03:57.880
than a woman about to tell you what is true based on my personal example yeah same yes same so when
04:04:05.540
all these men are telling you that only fans is a really fucking bad idea why do all of you listen
04:04:09.940
to women no one's told me that really but men don't tell you that okay all right don't tell
04:04:21.760
you that every man i talked to about they'd be like if i was a girl i'd do it can you think of
04:04:25.180
an occasion when a man right told you that's literally what they say they literally were
04:04:28.260
like if i was a girl i wouldn't do it i've never can you think of any occasions when men have told
04:04:32.900
you that it's bad yeah i've had ex-boyfriends i've had friends they've all been like you shouldn't
04:04:39.040
do this all your guy friends are going to subscribe you know all kinds of things like that but i've
04:04:44.080
also had people been like saying what kayla said like oh i wish i could do that type shit yeah so it
04:04:48.540
depends on who you're talking to sometimes how about tonight tonight we clearly see what side you
04:04:55.420
said about that oh what about tonight i guess yeah i guess andrew's pretty anti but that's okay
04:05:00.520
i mean everyone's entitled to their opinion sure do you believe him i think that there's validity to
04:05:05.980
it and i think there's nothing wrong with someone having a different belief system especially when
04:05:10.200
they're you know religious i think that's totally acceptable do you believe him i believe him yeah
04:05:15.720
but it's just like you think that he's making a true statement yeah i just don't care
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whether or not it's a true statement is kind of debatable based on your perspective i think it's
04:05:27.880
honestly why would it not be bad why would it not be bad well i think it's valid like he said earlier
04:05:33.980
like i would not want my child to be doing this or for my child to date someone who does this and i
04:05:38.980
think that's valid because when you're religious and every sunday you're going to church every wednesday
04:05:44.000
you're going to you know bible study etc your entire life is built around certain
04:05:48.860
sacraments and certain ideals and that's completely valid and i think that why would it not be bad
04:05:54.260
why would it not be bad to which part doing only fans why would it not be bad i think that it's a
04:06:02.940
way for anyone to reclaim their sexuality or to reclaim their finances what do you mean by reclaim
04:06:08.320
your sexuality i think that a lot of do you not know what your sexuality is i'm straight but i
04:06:14.220
definitely need to reclaim then i think it's an empowerment i think it's really powerful to say
04:06:18.840
yes i do this i'm proud of this i have fun doing it and not only that but it's going to set me up for
04:06:23.820
life and when i'm in my late 30s i can literally just retire yeah like how many people with nine to
04:06:29.780
fives not saying that they have a degree or anything can say that you know many many people
04:06:35.840
well yeah before like only fans was a thing it was all run by porn companies and then they had like
04:06:40.840
like authority and like would only pay like a thousand per video but now now that only fans is a thing
04:06:46.720
they have would you say that that was a bad thing when that was happening yeah yeah the girls make
04:06:54.040
you all the money only you're the one making all of the money yeah but now if i wanted to stop any
04:06:59.800
anytime i could stop yeah but like the back then you're saying that the contract is the bad thing
04:07:05.920
it's not the porn that's a bad thing it's the contract that you're on yeah but now that it's like
04:07:09.540
only fans is like you you sign up you upload your own id like you know like you can stop whenever you
04:07:16.180
want unless you're with an agency of course yeah even then you could stop and then they just will
04:07:21.420
will just take whatever the rest of the contracts there's a fair amount but it's better now i think
04:07:29.840
only that's better than what happened what was before which is just like having to go through like
04:07:35.340
porn like like film industry whatever the fuck that is like you have to sign contracts for all that
04:07:43.140
but now anyone can sign up and they have control over everything and can set their boundaries yeah
04:07:52.020
and i think that's way better than how it was before can you guys think of anything that's wrong
04:07:57.820
with it with sex work or only fans yeah as a lifestyle choice i think it's dangerous yes people can find
04:08:08.160
out where you live if they really stalk you they can figure out the landmarks yep they can track your
04:08:13.200
ip address if you go on sugar dates it's especially dangerous like i've almost been kidnapped just like
04:08:17.300
her you know so it's definitely not safe i mean if my child was doing it i would definitely set
04:08:23.020
set some precautions but just like with anything there are pros and cons how were you nearly kidnapped
04:08:32.800
no it's embarrassing no please tell us i can i can tell mine which is also pretty
04:08:40.340
spooky um i got paid i like told the this dude that asked he was begging to meet up because he lived
04:08:47.500
in a town that's like two hours away from me so he was like begging to meet up and stuff and he was
04:08:53.220
like we can go on a public date and just get coffee and i will give you a thousand dollars right and i
04:08:58.620
was like that's crazy this can't be real and then he sent me five hundred dollars immediately without
04:09:04.720
me saying yes or anything and so i was like damn that's crazy and then i still said no i said i'm
04:09:10.460
sorry i can send the money back yada yada and then he was like no and then he kept sending me money
04:09:15.300
every day a lot of money this dude spent probably like five thousand ish dollars on me just trying to
04:09:20.260
get me to agree to meet up so eventually i said yes and we were going to meet up down in like
04:09:26.260
downtown of my town and we i met him at a coffee shop very public very open and he like tried to
04:09:32.420
kidnap me in the only like he like pulled up in a van there was four people in the car they tried to
04:09:37.260
pull me in really quickly sorry go ahead but they tried to take me really quickly and then um a police
04:09:44.720
officer was literally right down there like they didn't see a cop that was literally right there
04:09:48.820
so they physically got out and tried to pull you one dude he like he so i didn't see the van at
04:09:53.760
first he was outside of the van already and he was like hey what's up you looked normal and then he
04:09:59.780
had a beanie on and he just pulled it down and he like yanked me and a cop pulled up and intervened
04:10:05.180
before anyone else could jump out did they get the guys huh did they get the guys oh yeah no the guys
04:10:10.140
they got they were trying to like run off but the one dude got left like the dude that was out of the
04:10:15.400
van he got ditched completely so the cops got him yeah and i'm sure he snitched because he was just he
04:10:20.580
looked like an asswipe he looks like an asshole and i i had like i had the description of one of
04:10:26.640
like the driver he wasn't wearing a mask so i don't know it was it was very very very scary and that's
04:10:31.920
not even my scariest time getting kidnapped that's just the only only fans related one um
04:10:36.620
you uh or i think it was you who said jake was asking some questions about the reclaim your
04:10:43.880
sexuality thing could you just repeat you said you're uh there are a couple descriptive words
04:10:49.080
you used you said you're proud to do what you do is that correct yeah okay what there's some other
04:10:54.320
words they're proud empowering anything any others i feel like it's made me feel like
04:11:02.020
not like a woman but like i have control you know i have financial stability like no matter what
04:11:10.900
happens i will never be homeless ever again you know what i mean and to me that is huge how much
04:11:15.700
money are you making um over 10k a month and you think that that's enough to make sure that you're
04:11:20.540
never homeless ever again if you're saving it right yeah even if you're saving the whole thing
04:11:25.980
how long have you been doing it for only fans like three years and how long have you been making 10k
04:11:31.200
a month for um about a year and a half yeah and you and how much have you saved how much have you
04:11:36.660
got in a savings account i'm not gonna say that on live but it's enough so that i could not work
04:11:41.640
for at least a year and all my bills will be paid is it over 50 grand it's about that and have you got
04:11:47.100
where have you got that sitting is it in an investment account or it's in a couple places i have two
04:11:51.900
banks i have like three different online versions of that and then i have cash and cash is in two
04:11:57.280
different places as well right so it's just sitting in it's like a savings account essentially
04:12:00.160
yeah what makes you think that 50 grand in a savings account would make sure you're never
04:12:04.660
homeless again even if it's 100 even if it's 100 what makes you think that i mean currently
04:12:08.880
i mean like you said you just said you'll never ever be homeless again so what makes you think
04:12:13.760
that 100 grand would make that i'll be investing back into myself so my goal well i'm actually pretty
04:12:20.400
much done with my associate's degree in psychology and i'll be going back for my bachelor's and master's
04:12:24.780
so my money is reinvesting back into myself and eventually i'll be a criminal psychologist
04:12:29.220
so what i mean is i'll never be homeless again because i've made sacrifices
04:12:33.160
so why didn't you just so the the idea is that you're going to get a degree and you're going to
04:12:38.580
become a psychologist why didn't you just do that without the sex work well originally i was going
04:12:42.800
to be a nurse major but then i had a really bad hand accident not to get surgery and i don't have
04:12:48.060
the same capabilities anymore so i had to switch to psychology so this is kind of like if you have
04:12:53.000
a bad hand or whatever then you can still study right yes that's not the problem that's why i'm
04:12:57.880
switching to psychology yeah right yeah yeah yeah so the question is that you said you want to go to
04:13:03.560
university you can have a part-time job you can eventually make the sort of money that you want
04:13:08.520
to make as a criminal psychologist was a criminal psychologist yeah yeah so what's the need for the
04:13:13.040
sex work why don't you just do it tomorrow jump in well the thing is i could do that and the
04:13:17.320
thing is i had three jobs for a really long time like about two to three years i always had multiple
04:13:21.860
jobs i'd work 60 to 80 hours every week my only income was nine to fives type shit and it wasn't
04:13:29.280
enough and i was barely making it and i was tired all the time like i almost crashed one night because
04:13:37.060
i was so tired going home at like 6 a.m from are you uh living alone are you living in an apartment by
04:13:41.160
yourself i live with kayla how much you guys paying for rent that's personal give me a ballpark how much
04:13:47.140
you're paying it doesn't who cares how much you're paying for rent it's like 2020 2200 yeah including
04:13:52.820
all the other stuff right right so you think that the 50 to 100k or whatever you've got will be
04:13:59.520
enough to sustain you for how long a long time like with the rent that's going on right now i could
04:14:06.060
be chilling for like four years maybe be in bangkok i guess so but i don't know i feel like
04:14:14.320
oh never mind you said it uh okay you said you were proud
04:14:19.600
for the sex work is what yeah okay it's not easy proud for the sex work you uh it made you feel
04:14:28.780
more like a woman to do sex work is that correct yeah i mean i had a really unfortunate upbringing
04:14:36.540
with my sexual identity as a younger individual and for the longest time i was scared of it i didn't
04:14:42.740
want to do sexual activities with my partners i didn't feel comfortable even in my alone time
04:14:48.120
like i wouldn't even masturbate t-m-i and then after only bands i started doing more and more
04:14:55.860
and i was like wait like i know who i am now i know what i like i know what i'm comfortable with
04:15:00.820
and it kind of taught me so it was the childhood stuff that you're talking about like but we won't
04:15:05.380
go into it but it was some sort of exploitation it was abuse intimately from different people in my
04:15:13.320
life starting at um a year and a half they went to jail but um life is hard and for me i felt like
04:15:23.260
wow but just but just on the point though we get life life is hard for sure but do you think that
04:15:28.460
engaging in only fans is a form of exploitation of your sexuality or of your body i think it could
04:15:36.420
be considered that but self exploitation i think of it like i'm a business woman
04:15:42.700
like i file taxes their business taxes how many people do you employ me yeah i have a marketing
04:15:49.780
team so i guess however many people are on that how many people do you employ okay how many people
04:15:55.340
are on that like three at least three at least three and where do they live i don't know you don't
04:16:03.160
know where they you have employees do you pay their oh do you pay their health insurance
04:16:08.160
it's no no i don't know about that so you so they're not really an employee they're someone
04:16:14.400
maybe you give give cash to i think from how i view it do you pay their tax do you have an llc
04:16:21.600
i actually do have an llc and the llc is your business yeah and do you pay that person through
04:16:26.880
your llc um i don't know how to explain it yeah so who pays their taxes then
04:16:33.620
themselves i guess them i don't really know how does it work how do you pay them
04:16:39.520
how do you not know how you pay somebody because usually it's kind of do you really employ anyone
04:16:47.900
or are you lying i actually do i know it sounds like so you do not pay them no i do pay them how
04:16:52.880
it's hard it's really not someone to deal with all yeah i pay someone to so you so you have no so
04:17:00.820
what you're saying is you don't employ anybody you have a marketing agency that employs people that
04:17:05.980
you work with yeah i kind of consider that employing someone like i'm asking them for
04:17:13.700
oh two i was just she's just saying she's a businesswoman and i'm saying if you generally if
04:17:18.840
you have if you're a business person an entrepreneur you have a company where you employ people you pay
04:17:24.540
their taxes for them and go through your llc but it sounds like you're a sole trader i don't know
04:17:29.040
what you call it over here good for you all right we have a chat here from masculine 70 hours a week
04:17:37.500
these women the pink sewer chick the first two across from buying are effing idiots wow okay that's
04:17:43.320
something you're not worth a thousand an hour here do the set the south korean cheerleader
04:17:48.940
fucking dance um you don't know what that is no the you haven't seen that on tiktok then i guess
04:17:55.380
you're more brainwaddy than me probably a little bit uh you're not worth a thousand an hour you're
04:18:00.420
worth once an hour tops otherwise free gtfo with that shit okay that's an interesting one thank you
04:18:04.960
that's why we get a thousand an hour bitch appreciate it masculine um all right that made
04:18:10.880
me that made me so let's um so going around the table uh i'm just going to get through some couple
04:18:19.960
questions here uh while we start with uh would you rather be in the forest or you're in the forest
04:18:26.260
would you rather come across a random man or a random bear starting with you yeah what's up what's
04:18:35.400
the problem here i don't know it's just dumb you're what a random man okay that is just so
04:18:44.120
silly and goofy i got a glock on me what's yeah literally what's what's what kind of i can shoot
04:18:51.460
both of them so i'm not really got a glock 40 yeah i don't know that whole debate is just so it's so
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silly um when you're putting it that way i'm getting killed by a bear or getting
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by a man take the bear anytime so in this scenario neither of those things could happen
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it's possible neither of them could happen yeah yeah but i'm not taking the risk right right so
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i'd rather die than have that just a question which one do you pick
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i guess i'd rather encounter a man okay what about you i don't know neither i don't know i don't i don't
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know i know this is the first time i've ever like let someone ask me that because i think it's just
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so dumb and so i don't even know i'll give you i i don't know i choose neither because i would just
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shoot both of them if i was in a dane i don't want to both are horrendous things to think about
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and so i don't want to why are both horrendous things to think about because i i would don't
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okay you do realize that most like most men aren't going to do anything to you right are you sure
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oh really oh really really yeah they really were we have all the stats to prove it i'm so glad that
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you i'm so glad that you think that i don't know just be careful all right you know what i mean
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yeah okay um so do you want to answer the question um not really i guess i'm not going to choose the
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bear because that's dumb but i'm not going to choose the man because that's also dumb so
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well if you had to like a princess bride situation i will choose the bear and i will just clearly not
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pick the boys in front of me either clearly i don't want to hurt a human i would rather hurt a bear than
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a human but if i'm in a situation like you guys keep saying like there's a chance that they wouldn't
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do anything or like yada yada or whatever but it's like that's not a risk i'm willing to take
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it's just not it's not one that i want to take sure i really don't want to take that risk that's
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why the question of the hypothetical is you had to pick one which one would you pick then i would
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yeah leo i'm just getting copper girl okay so these girls complain these shows go on for so
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fucking long but it takes literally fucking five minutes per person to answer a one or another
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we're literally on the time limit we're on the time limit here just so you guys know so disregard
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what he just said go on okay man or bear oh my god which would i choose yeah repeat the question
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for us too while you're at it yeah one eternity later oh i love spongebob okay so
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holy fuck she's doing it on purpose now okay if i were a bear if you were a bear no i'm kidding
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okay i would probably choose if i were a boy i think i could i must do
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pick the bear bro this has to be trolling at this point
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has to be decisive i'm sorry okay next yeah no no next no next
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yeah i've been confronted by a bear before and it didn't do anything but i
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most men wouldn't do anything you're like uh are you sure about that
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it was it wasn't it was i think it was her we were having the exchange with
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it was during the exchange with her but then when you said
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just okay but so you objected to the soundboard thing
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and the soundboard thing was in response to her saying
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how is me playing a little funny soundboard thing
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she doesn't have to be telling the truth for you to
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i don't agree but she she knew that because i was like what
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who do you think is more likely to call a woman a bitch
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andrew will eat a burrito for another champagne pop
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second just for a second just to see how it feels look also i know you don't believe in love or like
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marriage or anything honestly why are you stroking that
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i was like what the fuck he said it's like brian's burrito
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fuck wait check this out though check this out just look over she's just like
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stroking the my book what the fuck is she doing wait i'm gonna do a poll
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snitch or cheat to the chatters yeah okay snitch is option one and then cheat is option two no no hang on
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so so let me all branch all branch to brian all branch to brian on girlfriend on girlfriend
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yeah probably on girlfriend on wife no wife no he's never gonna have a wife
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no well he actually just doesn't want to get married all right so that's probably just be a billionaire
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yeah let's see look i yo ship bag brian ship bag oh dude bro you can't snitch on your friend dude
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i agree but you're giving an either or must all right hold up check this out snitch on your wife
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damn dude this is what you do with your bros as a fellow aussie get way too close wait okay let me
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ask the guys a question would you guys rather get a massage from a gay dude or get serious surgery
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serious serious surgery hold on hold on by a from a woman serious surgery
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y'all so so the choice is allow a man to touch you or die
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you're saying a woman doing a serious surgery who makes that's the day that's the truth yes
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okay andrew get a massage hold on andrew it's andrew andrew it's get a massage from a gay man
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or get serious surgery from a woman yeah serious surgery
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because people are a surgeon who are competent does
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okay okay well then brian brian in that case i'm taking death
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with a five percent chance of getting inherited by a rich guy
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be hitler two years before the end of world war ii
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shut up jake you would have chosen that answer no matter what
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you would have chosen it no matter what the hypothetical was
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a lot of people think like i got a burrito thing or whatever
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framework engineer donated 100 dollars and two cents
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if my best bro calls up and tells me to bring a shovel
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how is isn't it the most that's how's it blue pill
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just wanted to show some support to a fellow aussie creator
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jake is so damn nice to see a decent aussie on here
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because nobody's here taking their clothes off for him
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we think that only fans and all that shit is fine
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but i think that this is just as bad as sex work
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so like i don't know i think it's like the same thing
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it's it's literally it's even though it's not the same thing
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but if you say the word literally it means it's exactly the same
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but let's just take literally off the table and just say
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then that means that that's kind of like only fans
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but she made a good point there is an awful lot of only fan girls on your channel
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i'm not even saying you guys have more only fans girls