Her Husband Lets Her F Other Men?! She MARRIED An ØF SIMP?! Andrew Wilson! Q! | Dating Talk #200 💯
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In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have our first guest on the show, Juliet Claire! She's a nursing student, an artist, and a writer from Germany. We talk about what it's like to grow up in Germany and how she ended up in the U.S., how she got her start in tech, and what it was like growing up in Los Angeles.
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the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel. With
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that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So please
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tell us your name, age, location, and occupation. Go ahead. I'm Hydra. Uh, I'm an artist, and I'm
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from Colorado. Age? Oh, 28. Hold on. You hear that chair noise? Is it hers? It's mine. Is it?
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It's squeaky. It's squeaky. Oh, okay. Um, there's a chair right there. Can we do a swap, please? Age?
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28. Okay. I'm Juliet Claire. I'm 30, and I'm from Germany, and I just moved to the U.S., and I live
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at the Bay Area, and I do OnlyFans. All right. I didn't, uh, I didn't, I didn't actually catch
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your name. Can you say it a little slower for me? My name is Juliet Claire. Juliet Claire?
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Thank you, Metro Matt. Yes. Okay, gotcha. Thank you.
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Sure. Hello. This is Maridia. I'm 24, and I do OnlyFans. I'm from Mexico, but live in L.A.
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All right. What about you? Hi. My name is Stephanie. I'm 30. I'm from San Bernardino, and also Brazil,
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Santa Catarina, Brazil, and I am a caregiver for my parents. I'm a nursing student, and I
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also model. All right. Welcome. Thank you. Hello. I am Sarah. I am 44. I live in, just outside
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of Las Vegas. I am also an artist, and then I currently work in tech as well. All right.
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Welcome. Hi. I'm Alyssa. I'm 34. I'm from Los Angeles, and I do personal assistant and
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social media work. I'm Anissa. I'm 19. I go to UCSB. All right. Where are you from?
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I'm from the Bay Area. All right. I'm Q. Y'all know me as the QPIL, 31, from Raleigh,
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North Carolina. I'm a certified relationship coach, behavioral scientist, YouTuber.
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All right. Welcome, everybody. So we're going to go... Oh, wait. Excuse me. Andrew.
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Andrew. Yeah. My name is Andrew Wilson. I'm the host of The Crucible. I'm a political
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analyst, a political satirist, and I do occasionally enjoy engaging in debates.
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All right. Welcome, everybody. So we're going to go around the table once more. What is everybody's
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current relationship status? So are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits,
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relationship, married, polycule, sex, cult, harem, whatever it may be? If you're single, how long
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have you been single? And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in, starting
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with you? I am single. I've been single for almost a month now, and longest relationship,
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probably nine months. Longest relationship, nine months? Yes. Okay. I actually know there was a
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really toxic one that was on and off for about four or five. So that one, that's my longest, but...
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Four or five years? Yes. Four or five years. Sorry. Okay. A couple questions. You've been single for
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one month? Was the nine-month relationship the one that ended a month ago? No. With them,
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we were together for about four and a half, maybe five months. Okay. Who broke up with who?
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They broke up with me. They? Yes. They are non-binary. Was it a male or female? Male-born,
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but non-binary. Okay. And then your nine-month relationship, who broke up with who?
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I guess they broke up with me too. They? Or no, he. I guess he. Yeah. And then you said you were in a
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four to five year on-again, off-again relationship also, correct? Yes. Yes. How many times was it on
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and off again? I'd say two to three. It was a very foggy time period for me. Okay. All right. What
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about you? I got married five months ago and we know each other for like two and a half, three years. So
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this is my longest relationship now. Have you guys been together for three years? Oh, so we like,
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we know each other for three years. We had a long distance relationship. So we just went from
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like talking to dating to a relationship and this. How did you guys meet? Uh, he was my OnlyFans fan,
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like one of my first ones. Wait, when did you start doing OnlyFans? Like three years ago. Three years
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ago. Okay. And, um, how soon into him being your fan did you guys like meet up? Um, like four to five
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months. We talked a lot. We started, um, like talking at nights, um, talking on, talking on the phone and he's
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from America and I was living in, uh, in Germany. Dubai. I moved to Dubai in this time. Um, but like,
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like three years ago I was living in Germany and we started talking and he came to Germany for a few
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days and asked me if I would be like, if I wanted to meet him for a coffee or lunch and we met and
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since then we started dating. Oh. Hmm. Was he, uh, spending money on you? Yeah. Uh, how much prior to
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meeting him, how much money did he spend on you? Can we open or actually it's fine. Um, you mean until
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now or? Well, you said like four to five months in is when you guys first met up, right? Yeah. I don't
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know. Like maybe not that much, like maybe $1,000 to like $1,500. Like he, he bought my, like he
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started, he texted me in his first message and he asked for like a custom video that he still didn't
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get because I was too busy with doing content for my page. Thank you, MetroMap. Go ahead. Um,
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yeah. And then he just bought my videos and like little tips and we just started talking a lot.
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Did you charge him for the first date? No. It was free. Yeah. We just met for lunch.
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You didn't charge him? No. Did you have any concerns about meeting up with, uh, one of your
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fans like this? Um, not at this time because we talked a lot. We were chatting every day. I was,
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he was like someone I met just on a dating platform, like just online. Is this your longest relationship?
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Yes. Were you married previously? No. Okay. And then you said, um, prior to getting into OnlyFans,
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what kind of work did you do? Sorry, what? Uh, prior to OnlyFans, you're 30, right? So
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were you working before that? Yes. I had a normal job, um, a long time. I, it's complicated to explain it
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because it's a little bit different in Germany. I went to school for like an, um, um, I don't know
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how to explain it, but yeah, I worked in an office, um, for years. I changed, um, my, um, company like
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one time and I worked as an assistant and then I moved to Frankfurt because I wanted to study
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and, um, um, Lonely and I studied economies, finance, and management for two years. Hmm. Um,
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and this time I started with my study in like 2020 and, um, um, it was Corona COVID and, uh,
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I studied from home. I didn't went to, um, um, like the university a lot. So I had lots of
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time and got the idea to start with OnlyFans. Were you engaged in any other kind of sex work
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prior to starting OnlyFans? No. Like escorting or anything like that? Stripping? No. Okay.
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All right. What about you? Your relationship status? I'm single. I've been single for two
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years. My longest relationship during like six years in Mexico. The relationship that ended two
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years ago, was that the six-year one? No. Okay. That relationship during like one year and I've
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been single for two years. Okay. And the six-year relationship was the previous relationship? Yeah,
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yeah, yeah, yeah. In Mexico. And what was the break? What was the period of break between the six-year
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relationship and the one-year relationship? Like four years later, when I moved here, I get the
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new relationship. Yeah. The longest one was in Mexico. The six-year one? Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah.
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It finished many years ago, like years ago. So there was a four, okay. So you're in a six-year
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relationship and then there's a four-year gap. You said, okay, six-year relationship, four-year
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gap, one-year relationship, single for two years. Yeah, yeah. Six, four, two, one, 13 years.
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What, how old were you when you were in the six-year relationship? Very young, like 15, six,
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seven, 16. 16 to 22. Uh-huh. 16 to 22. Uh-huh. 15. I have like 15. When you first met. Yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
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You were 15 when you first met. Oh, no, no, no, no. Okay. Sorry. I know speak, I don't speak
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English very well, but I try. I met, I met him in, in Mexico, like when I was very young,
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when I started relationship and during like almost six years. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Was very
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young. Yeah. This is, actually, I'm being engaged, but I'm very young, so I decide not
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do it. How, wait, how. He is more older than me. How young were you when you guys met?
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Oh, but like 13. You said. Something like that. Something like that. 13 to 16. Yeah. How old
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was he? More old than me. But I don't want to talk about that. Well, hold on. I'm a little
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confused here because let's say you guys met at 14. It lasted. Like 13. Hold on. Hold
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on. You met at 14. It lasted six years. That gets you to 20. You said there was a one-year
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break. No, no, no. Excuse me. A four-year break. That brings you to 24. And then you dated
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a guy for one year. That brings you to 25. And then you've been single for two years.
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That brings you to the age. No, no, no. Hold on. Okay. It brings you to the age of 27. You
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told us you're 24. Are you lying about your age? No. I think you are. No. When I moved
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here, I. So you started dating this man at 10 years old. No, no, no, no, no. Well, according
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to the timeline you provided, it doesn't add up. No. You would be 27 given the timeline you
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provided. Yeah. Okay. Um, I confused about the numbers. That's it. What's there to be
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confused about? Because I don't good in math, math, mathematics. This ain't mathematics.
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Yeah. I'm not good, but I'm not light. And for my age. Just tell us you're 30. It's okay,
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dude. Just say you're 30. It's all right. No. Okay. Well, you're not 24. So. I'm 24.
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Go get your. Go get your. I don't have. I don't have. Show me your passport. I don't
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have. With me now. It's in LA. Okay. All right. Did she say she's 34? No, she said she's 24.
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24. So her whole relationship history is dubious, uh, given the numbers that she provided. So.
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You know what's funnier than 24? You guys think she looks 24?
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Oh, what? I look 24. No? I think she look a bit older.
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I. It's because about the numbers. What year were you born?
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Well, what year do you think it was 34 years ago?
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All right. Off to a great start, eh? Um, so what's your actual age?
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I want the guys comment what age they think I have.
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Or you could just tell us. That would be helpful.
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Um, hi. So I'm single. I've been single almost two years and my longest relationship was four years.
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All right. Was that the one that ended two years ago?
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I'm single. Um, I've been single for a little over two years. Um, I was married. My divorce was finalized in 2017. I tried dating for a little bit, which is not a lot of fun in Vegas. And I just decided it wasn't for me. So.
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And you said your longest, longest relationship?
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Um, my husband had a surgery and got addicted to pills. And so it just, um, became a different person. So we mutually decided to go different ways. But we have a good relationship now.
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You said, um, just very briefly, you said that you had initiated the divorce, but then you also said that you both, uh, had come to an agreement to go to your separate ways.
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Like to be amicable, I guess. So I initiated it.
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Hmm. And then, um, how many, uh, different fathers are there for the kids?
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The, you said you were married just one time, is that correct?
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So, and the most recent child, the youngest child is from the marriage.
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Um, I've been single for a year and my longest relationship was eight years.
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Uh, all right. The one that ended a year ago, who broke up with who?
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And then the eight-year relationship, who broke up with who?
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Um, I broke up with him, but it was, I was the problem in the relationship, but I knew it was ending, so I left.
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I have a boyfriend. We've been together for four months, and my longest relationship was a year.
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Um, about two and a half months. I've known her for two years, though.
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Wait, was this the girl you were kind of with, like, way back?
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Yeah, about a couple months. She locked the kid down. Had me releasing vasopressin'.
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You know, she was getting the vasopressin' levels up.
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Showing and giving me everything that I want and need.
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Being all about me. So, you know, I had to return the favor.
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Well, that's everybody's, uh, relationship status.
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Yeah. Um, I've been married for well over a decade.
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Yeah. We'll, we'll do like a, some sort of like...
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Me, Andrew, we'll, we'll even wear, uh, Spartan hoplite uniforms.
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It aged you a decade in just a couple of years.
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I got to post the thing to Discord really quick.
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All right, so I think a good jumping off point, I know some of you aren't as familiar with
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the show as some of the other panelists, but one point we'd like to kind of start off
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with, those of you who have watched the show, is if you have any disagreements, maybe you've
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seen the show, maybe you've seen Q, me, Andrew over there, if you have any disagreements on
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something that's been said, something, one of our dating positions, a criticism of the
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We'll get into some of the pre-show notes then.
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You had some sort of a criticism or disagreement.
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Yeah, in your pre-show notes, here, you got to hide this.
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Thank you, Twitch Corporate, I guess, for the 15 subs.
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Maybe it's like kind of just for our 200th episode.
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Speaking of which, guys, if you have an Amazon Prime sub, you can link it to your Twitch account and support the show every month through your Amazon Prime account.
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The nameless intern over there at Twitch who did that.
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You said, in all honesty, I tend to cringe a ton whenever Brian speaks.
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You said you want to mainly come on and talk to the Wilson guy.
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Well, before you and Wilson get into it, can you articulate the whole cringing thing?
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I can't give you a particular scenario, but there are moments where I guess you get just a little bit sensitive.
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I can't give you a straight example off the top of my head.
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And then there's, like, little arrows that go down to here.
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But I don't want to show that on camera because, you know.
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The one in the middle there that's not quite circular shaped, that looks like an avocado that's starting to rot.
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You know, like, cut in half, an avocado cut in half, and it starts to get stringy.
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That's what it, like, it looks like a cross-section of a rotten avocado.
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Okay, so you don't have any other disagreements besides just you think I'm fucking cringe.
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And then you also said that, here, let's get into your pre-show notes.
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You were left at the mall on your 17th birthday.
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It was, like, the, I think it was, like, the day before my birthday.
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And then I didn't want to hold their hand first date.
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It was, their mom had taken us to there, and then they went to the bathroom, and then I was just kind of stuck.
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By the way, Twitch sent in another 10, 10 subs.
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To the nameless, to the nameless underpaid intern who is sending in, I just want to say this to you.
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Did you tell us about that abandoned also at the airport?
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That one was a complete, like, long-distance, internet type of relationship.
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And they were lying to me the whole time, and I didn't catch on.
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I was holding on to hope and faith and my strong delusions.
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So I went to the airport to, like, go help them out.
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They said they were having trouble, issues with their mom and everything like that.
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So I was like, well, if they're sick, their mom's sick, let me go help.
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And I get there, and they freaked out because it was so last minute.
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And then they completely blocked me, and then I was on my way back to Colorado.
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Then a month later, I decided to go visit them.
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And 12 hours later, they didn't like the way that I was giving them directions.
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And so then I got out the car and then attempted to walk back to their mom's house.
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But then I realized it was, like, a nine-hour walk.
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So then I called Sarah, and she helped me out with an Uber.
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And then went back and talked with her parents.
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And Dad was like, honestly, I thought it would last a week.
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So then I just went back home after that and started my healing process.
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And it was very silly of me to even continue on that relationship after being left at the airport.
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And then you also said you were abandoned by the same person in Pennsylvania.
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Yeah, that was when he told me to get out the car.
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And I started to walk back to their mom's, his mom's or whatever.
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And I was like, hey, despite everything, hope things are okay, this and that.
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Because from what I could tell based off observing, he was coming down off of a lot of drugs and was just not in a clear head
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and was overstimulated by the way that I was giving the directions based off of the GPS was telling me to go to.
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And I was, and I actually had, like, a really weird feeling.
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So I was, like, just kind of, like, praying, like, if it's not safe for me to continue on, like, just make something happen so I'm not there anymore.
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And then he was like, you need to get out the car.
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In your introduction, did you mention that you're an attorney?
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In my biography, in my Instagram, yes, I'm a lawyer.
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You're not licensed to practice in the U.S., though?
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And you did three years of law school and got it all done by the time you were 24.
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But it's a mixed materia mixta, mixed matters, labor, penal, criminal.
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I'm up here during pandemic because I'm not going to the office there.
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Lawyer is a pretty respectable career, you know?
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No, 100%, because I'm a lawyer and I do OnlyFans.
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I'd gotten my extensions put in earlier that day.
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So, I, like, kept playing with my hair and my extensions.
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Like, I used to, it was, you know, I was 18 a long time ago.
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So, it was, like, cooler to have your hair super long,
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You said you were a lawyer before, like, the...
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It means lying at will yields excellent revenues.
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There's so many contradictory statements you've made.
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You claiming you were a lawyer when you were like four years ago.
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I don't know if you have a BBL, but you definitely have lipo.
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You're just going to lie about everything all night?
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That's not something that's usually Spanish speakers do.
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Like, is the whole thing a troll or just some of it?
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So, do you at least want to admit that you've had some sort of procedure on your stomach?
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No, you don't want to admit it or no, you haven't had that procedure?
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Have you had any sort of procedure to remove fat on your stomach?
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And I'm always go out with my fans and OnlyFans.
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100% before the guys invite me to go out, I know they go first to be my fan.
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You were close, but you couldn't quite hold it with the laugh.
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Someone get this geriatric fucker walker so she can walk the fuck off the show.
00:43:00.040
Can you tell me, can you just tell me real quick?
00:43:08.680
Pero no sé si son verdaderos ese color o tienes pupilentes.
00:43:20.280
You said the guy tried to kiss you and he pulled your hair extension out.
00:43:29.680
You jumped over two fences to catch your ex cheating.
00:43:33.060
Oh, well, I jumped over two fences and I caught him cheating.
00:43:39.160
I just, I knew that he was cheating and he was lying to me.
00:43:43.280
And so I went to his house and it has like two huge fences and I just decided to scale
00:43:48.500
them and then I like snuck in his back door and went up the stairs and he was sleeping with
00:44:02.820
And then, uh, you wanted to talk about as far as dating topics, dating in LA feels especially
00:44:11.120
Um, so I was in Santa Barbara County and like Ventura for most of my adult life.
00:44:36.320
Uh, I did for economics, but I didn't graduate.
00:44:46.040
Uh, I'm sure I have other hot takes, but they seem regular to me.
00:44:49.060
Uh, so you've never done, uh, dating apps or anything like that?
00:44:52.300
Uh, I mean, I've done them, but I don't, I didn't stick with them.
00:44:58.640
Um, one of them thought that I was stealing pictures and so I got banned and they were pictures
00:45:06.460
And so I was just like, I'm not going to deal with that.
00:45:12.840
It was like, you can't match with anybody else, but like I'd only matched with like three people.
00:45:24.360
Like, I don't know, I picked three of them and then that was all you got.
00:45:27.520
And I was like, you know, they don't talk to you.
00:45:34.160
So it was just sitting there stagnant, like a little duck in the water.
00:45:39.480
Um, you said you have other hot takes on dating?
00:45:44.740
Yeah, but I don't really know if they're like hot takes to everybody.
00:45:59.800
So, uh, how many, uh, how many kids do you have?
00:46:05.020
And this is with the eight year relationship guy?
00:46:24.700
Shit, we should have done like a mother daughter episode or something.
00:46:35.660
Um, is the father, was the father in the picture at all?
00:46:40.120
Uh, he passed away when she was five months old.
00:47:24.340
Like, you know, she's kind of a bit off on her own, but even when she was younger,
00:47:31.220
would you refuse to date people with men with kids?
00:47:35.920
Now that she's on her own, it's like a, I don't want any more kids.
00:47:40.960
So that's why I'm like, I don't want anybody that, like, has young kids because I don't
00:47:45.860
I don't think I'd be good at it because I love my daughter so much.
00:47:48.100
And I don't think I would equally care for their child.
00:47:50.720
And I just don't think that's a fair situation to put somebody else's kids in.
00:47:55.040
But you would, someone who is perhaps in a similar situation as you, like, they have adult
00:48:01.580
I just, like, I don't think I'd be a good step-mom.
00:48:03.400
You just don't want, like, to deal with, like, a toddler or, like, you know, pre-teen or,
00:48:18.360
How soon into a dating relationship would you feel comfortable with farting in front of
00:48:26.340
Uh, TTS is 200, but I must have had it set incorrectly.
00:48:32.340
TTS is 200, but we'll allow it to come through.
00:48:34.880
Uh, how soon into a relationship is it comfortable to fart?
00:48:44.460
I think never for the woman and, like, within a month for the guy.
00:49:12.800
You know, I'll, like, hold it until I'm, like, dying of a stomachache.
00:49:15.960
It's not coming out in front of somebody I like.
00:49:22.840
I don't think the woman should have her farting.
00:49:35.080
I'll let them, like, trickle out one at a time.
00:49:37.640
Nothing that comes to mind, though, immediately?
00:49:41.320
Stephanie, you said your elementary school first love that you haven't seen for 20 years
00:49:45.980
since childhood hijacked the end of a date you're on by driving four or five hours from
00:49:53.020
I was on a date, and the night before, I had mentioned it to my childhood, like, crush
00:50:01.080
or whatever, and he was like, well, I'm going to go pick you up, like, randomly throughout
00:50:08.140
And I checked my phone, yeah, he was there to pick me up, but it was at the end of the
00:50:12.020
date that I was on, and I explained the situation to my date, like, to be honest, and I ended
00:50:17.060
up having a date with my childhood friend, which did not rekindle, like, any romance,
00:50:21.180
because obviously we were kids, but it was, like, 20 years, so.
00:50:26.960
You said he picked you up and took you on a night out in Hollywood riding scooters?
00:50:32.680
Was this the guy who crashed it, or the, wait, oh, no, hold on, it was fun and friendly
00:50:40.460
when you, oh, okay, all right, you said you'd like to bring awareness to, bring awareness
00:50:47.940
to the difficulties you encounter with dating due to your unique lifestyle.
00:50:56.280
So when I was born, I was born to a father who was 54 years old at the time, and so I'm
00:51:03.540
very passionate about spreading awareness about people having children at, like, a later
00:51:07.460
age, just considering all the hardships that I did endure, and especially now with so much
00:51:11.860
responsibility and still trying to learn, like, self-development, like, how I'm trying
00:51:15.920
to, I guess, rehabilitate into a society I never really was, like, nurtured into.
00:51:21.060
So I'm pretty much more so passionate about trying to spread awareness on the difficulties
00:51:27.240
of having such a responsibility, caring for aging parents while trying to date.
00:51:37.180
Oh, how old was your mom when she gave birth to you?
00:51:42.420
There was, like, a 14-year-old, or 14-year difference between you.
00:51:54.340
Well, the other thing, too, is that they both have neurological diseases, and my mom doesn't
00:52:01.880
So, like, the difficulties of being a caregiver was more so my point.
00:52:05.760
And, like, trying to date and relate to people my age that don't have the same responsibilities,
00:52:09.960
it's different having children versus taking care of, like, elderly parents.
00:52:13.580
Well, do you mind if we back up just a bit here?
00:52:17.660
So, this kind of started with the idea that because your dad was older when you were born,
00:52:31.380
And then as we kind of go through it, we find out, wait a second, there was all these
00:52:35.660
kind of other external factors, like non-English speaking, things like this.
00:52:40.520
I can understand where that would heap a lot of responsibility on a child's shoulders,
00:52:44.120
but the age gap itself doesn't seem like it would be problematic.
00:52:47.980
The way that I wrote to Brian was more so generalized instead of trying to, like, write so much about,
00:52:55.980
But, and more so my concern was, like, my father's age.
00:52:59.580
That has been something that was more problematic versus my mom's age.
00:53:11.020
Well, the way that I grew up from my experience personally, like, it was a little difficult
00:53:15.960
watching, like, the other students in my class have, like, younger parents and be able to do
00:53:21.320
Like, I had to be homeschooled in high school, so I lost a lot of opportunities to socialize.
00:53:26.020
And so, that made it difficult for me to have, like, normal childhood experiences considering
00:53:29.880
my dad's, he had Parkinson's and it started to progress.
00:53:32.980
And then I had to kind of pick up and start, you know, taking care of him.
00:53:36.460
Yeah, but I don't understand, hang on, if you don't mind.
00:53:39.160
I don't, I don't actually understand what that has to do with his age.
00:53:43.360
Like, surely, surely there's 59-year-old men who don't have Parkinson's and are in just
00:53:52.040
So, if he was, like, 25 and had Parkinson's disease, that would be just as problematic,
00:53:58.320
So, what does the age portion of this have to do with anything exactly?
00:54:03.240
So, as human beings, like, as we age, we obviously lose, like, our energy, our time, memory,
00:54:08.760
And so, I think that the progression of aging does, you know, kind of, you become more tired
00:54:14.720
and you can't really give a child what it needs to, you know, be a child.
00:54:19.480
And I think that that's kind of more so what I'm trying to explain and correlate.
00:54:25.680
I mean, usually the man's role is to provide for the child.
00:54:29.120
Usually, in your 50s, you're going to be much more established and have resources to do
00:54:32.740
that type of providing than you would if you were a 20-year-old man, for instance.
00:54:37.140
So, I'm not really understanding what the issue here is with the age.
00:54:43.540
Like, I had Parkinson's disease, non-English speaking.
00:54:49.320
But they would be serious problems if he was 26 and had Parkinson's and didn't speak English.
00:54:55.920
So, the age itself, I guess, is what I'm trying to figure out.
00:55:01.380
So, I don't know if that's, like, an experience that I got to experience sooner than other peers
00:55:08.840
So, I don't know, you know, if that's more so, like, what you're saying.
00:55:11.540
But, to me, like, it's just the – I'm getting to, like, the finish line of my dad passing
00:55:18.960
And that is a very depressing, you know, experience for me personally.
00:55:33.740
It's not even uncommon for people at 30 years old to have one or even both parents pass.
00:55:43.680
So, I'm not – I guess I'm still just – I just want to make sure that I understand
00:55:49.540
Like, I understand that there could be some unique challenges with having aged parents.
00:55:53.300
I had a dad who was much older when he had me, for instance, than what was normal amongst
00:56:05.540
And I was given kind of a moral background or, you could say, a moral system which was
00:56:12.500
outdated, let's say, which I thought was great.
00:56:16.200
Like, I always thought that that was, like, a wonderful thing that he gave me, right?
00:56:19.400
So, I'm just kind of trying to key in on the idea of the age discrepancy being the problem
00:56:38.060
So, something that does come to my mind is that from my experience personally when I
00:56:42.860
was growing up, I kind of had this understanding that my dad was a lot older than most and
00:56:47.540
that I kind of understood that death would be coming faster and that I didn't know how
00:56:51.680
to prepare with that kind of, like, existential crisis of, like, not having my father around
00:56:55.740
or what to do or especially how lonely I have felt.
00:56:58.920
And so, apart from this podcast, like, I have put, like, effort into trying to, you know,
00:57:05.480
make friends on Reddit and, like, reach out to places to see if there's anyone that maybe
00:57:10.040
have a similar situation and, you know, with that type of attachment.
00:57:13.880
I think that having an older or an elderly father definitely may have impacted my attachment
00:57:19.860
style and has caused some difficulties with me understanding and definitely with me taking
00:57:26.780
care of my dad, like, I didn't have a normal job the way that other people did.
00:57:30.980
So, I didn't really have the same socialization.
00:57:34.140
And so, I had a lot of responsibility and being alone a lot.
00:57:44.140
Wouldn't it be bad for any parent then is really what you're saying is that if they have
00:57:49.060
health issues or they have kind of unique challenges which are stationed to them, that that burden
00:57:58.680
So, like, if your dad was 59 and he spoke English and he was perfectly healthy and he
00:58:02.280
didn't get dementia, he didn't have Parkinson's, your challenges here would have been significantly
00:58:08.340
So, even if he, yeah, so even if he had been 26, 27, 28 with those conditions, it still
00:58:12.920
would have been extraordinarily challenging for you, right?
00:58:16.360
And I would have hoped that back then or even, like, parents or, you know, parents-to-be, like,
00:58:20.760
that they would consider, like, the future of the child.
00:58:23.200
So, like, maybe therapy or education or anything that can kind of help support, you know, them
00:58:29.040
grieve what you're going through, you know, because it's not easy being a caregiver, like,
00:58:33.880
You got to learn to take care of yourself as well and advocate for yourself.
00:58:36.660
So, it's definitely a very complex situation, nonetheless.
00:58:41.260
But it's just a matter of, like, how we can, you know, like you said, like, you can't really
00:58:45.060
tell who's going to have a disease and stuff like that.
00:58:49.660
It's just a matter of how we can support each other through these types of dynamic situations.
00:58:52.740
Well, and it's not necessarily the age either, right?
00:58:56.100
But for my circumstances, personally, for my dating experience, this is what it's been for
00:59:02.540
Because you have kind of these, like, different problems.
00:59:05.520
You can understand from my perspective that unique challenges like this could be basically
00:59:18.900
Yeah, I just wanted to make sure that we could clarify that.
00:59:22.160
So, you've been the primary and sole caregiver for both your Brazilian parents and you've
00:59:32.280
And this makes you approach dating in a more methodical way, one in which conserves your
00:59:38.480
time and energy, having so much responsibility.
00:59:41.540
In such a complex circumstance, you date intentionally while holding maturity in high regard.
00:59:47.700
You've studied animal nursing, have an undergrad in psychology, and you're currently in school
00:59:54.300
You only know working for both your parents all your adult life as a job.
00:59:58.920
It's restricted socialization, which in turn makes dating a bit challenging for me.
01:00:10.640
Like, I was homeschooled because my dad with his Parkinson's, he couldn't drive me anymore
01:00:14.860
And then me working for my parents every day or like, you know, as a full-time job, like,
01:00:19.660
I don't get to meet coworkers and go out and, you know, like, every day my life is the
01:00:24.040
same, like, with my parents and then I do have school.
01:00:26.000
So, that's what I was trying to mention is the loneliness and then also, like, the desire
01:00:29.840
to connect with people and then obviously not knowing, like, you know, having the time
01:00:34.200
and then, like, how people are, like, my own naivety, I guess, you know, as well.
01:00:41.940
But, I mean, have you, you've been on dating apps at all?
01:00:52.500
But in that two-year period, I mean, has there been, there's been some guys in the picture,
01:00:57.740
No, just, like, dating and getting to know people.
01:01:11.520
Yeah, and I think that's a part of, like, my circumstances.
01:01:13.940
Like, it makes me this way, you know, it's like, I'm very, so much.
01:01:21.340
All right, we'll get that pulled up here, guys, in just a sec.
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If you guys can, also like the video if you're enjoying the show so far, guys.
01:01:38.540
To you, relaxation is sitting in the steam room after a great workout.
01:01:45.900
You speak Portuguese, English, Spanish, and Korean.
01:02:09.480
I'm only interested in those who want to be a husband.
01:02:16.900
Before, I wasn't as mindful, because I didn't have the self-development and awareness to
01:02:21.100
understand, or the education to understand about dating.
01:02:27.900
No, not necessarily, but, like, how do you say, like, not purposeful relationships, more
01:02:34.700
so, like, just being together, like, for four years, but not having, like, both the set
01:02:40.020
intention to make this long-term relationship go somewhere, like, besides just being comfortable
01:02:55.320
I want to talk to you about your car, okay, homeschool, I care.
01:03:10.540
Oh, this year, I really want to go dancing, camping, go on a cruise, learn Korean, go to
01:03:16.080
festivals and snowboard, also ride a dirt bike, do an outdoor obstacle course, explore
01:03:20.600
new cities and travel, ooh, and play at a water park and have a bonfire at the beach.
01:03:35.580
The one thing you should know about me is I am Brazilian, energetic, adventurous, eccentric,
01:03:44.980
Loves to sing, dance, model, talk, learn, work out, bake, cook, play video games, arcades,
01:04:11.600
So you're Brazilian, energetic, adventurous, eccentric, feminine, funny, conscientious, and
01:04:18.680
When you say you're romantic, what do you mean?
01:04:20.400
I guess more into chivalry and just poetry and just kind of a little bit more gentle.
01:04:30.720
This is an interesting difference between men and women.
01:04:51.660
Is that something women do or something men do?
01:04:57.140
Well, like the way that I express my feelings, like if I'm going to like give someone, it's
01:05:01.840
going to be something thoughtful and something about us, like poetry, pictures, and make like
01:05:05.620
a little collage and put a little bit more like emotional...
01:05:09.500
Maybe, like just depending if that's how I'm feeling romantic towards that person.
01:05:19.660
But so in what ways would you expect a man to be romantic or chivalry towards you?
01:05:25.220
With the way that he treats me, the way that he talks, how he holds me into like consideration
01:05:30.200
and how vulnerable he can be also with his feelings towards me, his intentions towards
01:05:37.660
That's how I would kind of start feeling like this person is expressing romance with chivalry,
01:05:45.220
And then just expressing his feelings for me, the romantic feelings.
01:05:52.120
I mean, I tend to think more like paying for dates, being a gentleman.
01:05:57.240
I suppose it has some relation to your conduct, but not your conduct, but the man's conduct.
01:06:04.600
Kind of falling into a more traditionally masculine role, being a protector, provider, these sorts
01:06:19.260
To be honest, like I myself am discovering and exploring like relationships.
01:06:24.100
So like I'm definitely in a place where I'm looking at different like relationship coaches
01:06:28.940
that I'm learning information from and how to date and what dating means.
01:06:36.160
No, just like trying to learn and educate myself on what dating means and how like the
01:06:41.220
process of dating means and what I can expect and what, you know, just stuff about myself,
01:06:46.540
So like there's some people that I do like to like utilize information from.
01:06:54.020
I like to also learn about like toxic relationships.
01:06:57.240
So I, you know, can also learn about red flags.
01:06:59.620
But I think as of right now, I'm trying to focus on green flags and so just like learning
01:07:05.220
also biochemistry and like dating as well and just understanding myself and what I could
01:07:11.740
So what, what advice have you gotten from this, the guy you mentioned or like any of these
01:07:20.440
So from my understanding so far, what I've accumulated is that dating is, it's, it's a lot
01:07:26.400
of discovery about what you want and yourself and dating does not mean mating.
01:07:30.800
Like you don't just like, I don't like kiss on the first date kind of thing.
01:07:35.580
In the past before, yeah, before I educated myself on relationships and dating and the
01:07:43.960
So that's why I'm, I know I don't know everything about dating, but I'm definitely like trying
01:07:48.520
to look at different materials or like sources that I can like resonate with and understand.
01:07:54.960
And you said now you're looking at it in terms of what you're, I'm trying to remember exactly
01:08:04.400
Like, um, because through dating, I get to learn a lot about myself as well.
01:08:07.980
Like, what do I, like what kind of person I am around this type of personality or just
01:08:12.740
like some things that I like to do or how to put boundaries down or like things that
01:08:16.700
I should be or not should be liking, but things just learning how to like socialize and
01:08:22.460
be around people as well and like learn from them and, you know, how to connect with people
01:08:26.880
and what makes me compatible or chemistry with some people, like just to kind of discover
01:08:36.240
So what, I guess, what are the primary things that they're teaching you though, the dating
01:08:43.220
Well, um, according to Stefan Speaks, there's stuff, um, more so in regards to like chemistry,
01:08:55.160
And I've also read a book by, uh, Don Maslar that, uh, it's more like biochemical stuff.
01:09:01.700
So it helps me understand about like, you know, not being affectionate too soon and just like
01:09:12.000
Well, from my understanding, I think it's, it's sex.
01:09:15.840
So wait, there's a book about not fucking too soon?
01:09:18.520
It's, uh, called Men Chase Women Choose by Don Maslar.
01:09:46.120
Um, so you said when it comes to being affectionate in your, in the past, you, uh, you were affectionate
01:10:00.840
I think that I was misinterpreting, like, understanding what happens to me with affection.
01:10:06.720
Like, how people get attached with affection or communicating too much too soon and not
01:10:12.480
really, like, or asking, like, good questions that can kind of, um, reflect if we are compatible
01:10:21.340
What, how fast, what, what's the fastest you've been affectionate with a man in the past?
01:10:29.520
Um, like, well, affection, you mean, like, holding hands, like, simple?
01:10:40.960
I mean, but have you hooked up with someone relatively quickly for a second, third date?
01:10:48.840
So you've made all your previous exes wait a month, two months, three months, a couple
01:11:00.360
In any case, um, do you think it's going to be, and are you newly religious?
01:11:09.140
I've had, um, I'm still exploring my spirituality and, like, my faith and stuff and, like, my values
01:11:21.280
Would you say you're on, um, would you say you're on a journey?
01:11:25.020
Yeah, and I think that's very important, you know, for me personally, so I can't give, like,
01:11:29.640
definite answers, but I'm definitely trying to work towards that because I do have a lot
01:11:39.500
Well, don't you think it's going to be a bit of a hard sell to a guy that this next
01:11:47.340
guy that you meet, he has to wait until marriage to have sex, but you've had sex with men who
01:11:55.600
But you're assuming that, and I did not speak on that.
01:11:57.640
Can we not, can we keep my sexual history private, please?
01:12:04.220
Well, I mean, dating to me is more so about getting to know people, like, and then you
01:12:10.680
Well, I mean, I asked you earlier, okay, I asked you earlier, you said you've been single
01:12:13.620
for two years, I asked if you were celibate, and you said, yeah, I've been celibate for
01:12:18.100
two years, so, I mean, I know you don't want to talk about it, but you implied you're not
01:12:22.900
a virgin, it's okay, we're all adults here, this is a fairly, I mean, the average age of
01:12:27.660
the panel here is in their 30s, sex is a, it's not a super taboo thing to talk about,
01:12:33.180
it's, we don't need to talk, like, details about any sexual experiences, but I don't
01:12:39.720
think at 30 years old it's, would be wrong for you to say you're not a virgin.
01:12:46.200
That's okay, I respect your opinion, like, I just don't feel that way about myself right
01:12:49.960
Well, I don't think it's opinion, I think it's just factually true, like the current social
01:12:53.880
mores and climate, I don't think there's, it's objectionable to, at 30, and amongst a
01:12:59.700
panel of your peers who are similarly aged to simply say whether you're a virgin or
01:13:05.360
not, but in any case, you already basically implied that you weren't, so.
01:13:17.740
Would it be better if he, actually, I'm sorry, Q, I didn't mean to.
01:13:21.740
I just wanted to know really quickly, would it be better if he would have asked you, based
01:13:25.920
on what you, the information you provided, would it be, do you think it's unreasonable
01:13:30.020
based on your dating history and this new journey that you're on, that a man would accept that?
01:13:37.840
Do you think it's, like, your current terms in which you would want to date?
01:13:45.740
You don't have an opinion either way on if that would.
01:13:47.580
It's not about that, it's more so about, like, I'm okay being alone.
01:13:50.880
Like, I'm okay, so to me, even if I, if I choose to be married and have a husband or
01:13:55.220
not, that's okay, like, it's, the person, the right person will be okay with that, will
01:13:59.060
respect my boundaries, will respect what I need to make me feel safe, and that's okay.
01:14:03.020
So you, so you're okay with, so you don't want to be married?
01:14:05.040
You want to be married, but you're okay being alone?
01:14:07.920
Well, I would like to be married, but I also can accept that if I don't, I'm not compatible
01:14:16.320
I'm not going to force and be too attached to the outcome, but I am putting in effort.
01:14:27.300
Well, I was just curious, you, you got a dating coach for the express purpose, I assume, of
01:14:33.220
learning dating techniques or understanding better about how the dating market works, right?
01:14:41.300
If a big part of relationships is going to be the history of the person, you would agree
01:14:50.520
So if you're talking about dating specifically, then the history of a person, how they treat
01:14:55.940
other people, how you treat other people, your sexual history, all of that is going to
01:15:07.100
So when Brian's asking this, it's not designed to make you feel bad or horrible or anything
01:15:14.340
It's to explore the viewpoint of what it is that you're after in the dating market.
01:15:19.120
And if your expectations are reasonable or if they're unreasonable based on what you're
01:15:23.100
bringing to the table, not asking this in order to hurt your feelings or do something
01:15:28.340
I'm just not comfortable sharing that publicly.
01:15:30.260
Like I said, I'm trying to rehabilitate into a society that I didn't really, you know,
01:15:36.100
So it's like, it's, it's a little bit different of a different experience for me to just share
01:15:40.160
intimate parts of my history in that way, like, like intentionally.
01:15:44.020
And like, you know, so that's why I was just, I'm not comfortable with that.
01:15:48.460
Wait, I did want to point out, I did want to point out, um, one commenter said something
01:15:53.920
here that's actually pretty clever and pretty funny that you are indeed wearing rose colored
01:16:02.180
And so for my history, like the rose colored glasses block, like some of the lights, like
01:16:20.200
Um, you said something like your recovery or what was it?
01:16:39.160
No, like trying to rehabilitate, like into society.
01:16:46.740
What I'm saying is because I was not very socialized.
01:16:49.580
And so to me, I don't have those, um, I'm not completely comfortable.
01:16:57.400
A couple of questions from what, uh, you were always homeschooled.
01:17:03.200
But before that, like I did go to elementary school and middle school.
01:17:06.940
Did you have friends while you were homeschooled?
01:17:11.540
Because I would go to school like once every two weeks to a month.
01:17:16.520
Like I wouldn't be at, like it was like I taught myself.
01:17:24.920
Did you have friends while you were in college?
01:17:29.220
And it was like, um, how do you say like a, an acquaintance.
01:17:36.940
It's not really something that has, um, continued on.
01:17:43.520
Um, I'm currently like, um, like in school as well.
01:17:49.960
You've been in school continuously since you were 18?
01:17:53.680
So trying, like I changed majors, discovering who I am, taking care of my parents.
01:17:57.460
So it's been, it's been a lot like being in therapy as well to help me.
01:18:02.960
How long have you been discovering who you are?
01:18:06.240
A lot more heavily in therapy the past like year and a half.
01:18:10.060
Um, a lot of the grief that comes with, um, my day-to-day with my father.
01:18:15.660
He's currently on hospice and just the changes and, um, yeah, just with myself and things
01:18:22.100
Were you in, how long have you been in therapy for?
01:18:28.260
Um, so therapy for me, it's been almost two years, a year and a half.
01:18:34.420
Um, my dad's, he's on hospice since the beginning of the year.
01:18:40.460
But you said you were in therapy to deal with, um, him being in hospice.
01:18:47.620
Uh, but you were in therapy prior to him entering hospice.
01:18:52.340
So what was the primary reason for going to therapy?
01:18:55.540
So I have like a lot of grief in regards to my dad, my attachment to my dad and trying
01:19:00.500
to understand like, um, just like the reality of life and like what I thought, like always
01:19:05.460
being inside my parents' house is a different, um, perspective and feeling versus being out
01:19:14.700
Well, I don't live with my parents, but in that instance, yeah, like renting a room.
01:19:19.540
Oh, you don't, so you don't live with your parents?
01:19:24.160
That's what I was trying to say, like a roommate, yeah.
01:19:32.600
And you're, you've been in and out of college since they, pretty much 18?
01:19:43.060
I get paid to get, uh, to take care of my parents.
01:19:48.820
My parents are, it's a full-time thing taking care of my dad.
01:19:52.200
As his disease has progressed and now there's another caregiver for him who works full-time
01:19:59.720
So wait, wait, can, uh, do you mind if we back up just a, just a little bit?
01:20:12.960
There was one time that I, I was able to like work for the veterans hospital, like for like
01:20:21.420
So you've lived at home with your parents for your whole life?
01:20:34.660
So how have you been affording to live on your own?
01:20:37.680
I get paid to take care of my parents by the state.
01:20:47.460
The state pays you in a, hang on, hang on, I just want to make sure I got this right.
01:20:49.740
The state pays you in a caretaker position for your parents, right?
01:20:58.520
So, and they've been paying you since you were 19 years old to do this?
01:21:08.080
I wanted to just kind of get that clarified real quick.
01:21:16.460
So the state, the state allowed you to be a caretaker and has paid you since you were 18
01:21:22.140
Yeah, they have the social workers that come out and evaluate.
01:21:27.500
Now, my understanding in these situations is that you can opt out and the state will still
01:21:35.300
So then this was a choice for you to stay on as the caretaker.
01:21:39.660
And that's where, with therapy, I'm learning that and my autonomy and my empowerment to
01:21:45.100
make, you know, my own decisions and break away from this.
01:21:48.420
I think that I was conditioned into this role and I didn't really understand that and realize
01:21:54.320
And so now, like you're saying, like, there could be another caregiver in which there is
01:22:00.040
And so now I'm kind of on my journey to figure out and create a new life for myself without
01:22:13.960
And I'm more definite on my path as far as, like, my career path.
01:22:23.660
You were paid as a caretaker to take care of your father and have been even to right now,
01:22:42.520
But now, understanding with therapy and, like, having my rights as a person reflected back
01:22:50.200
That wasn't reflected, like, when I was growing up.
01:22:52.760
So it's, now I feel a lot more empowered to understand that, look, when I graduate and
01:22:57.280
I, you know, I'm done, there's going to be another, like, caregiver.
01:23:00.900
For right now, like, I can maintain going to school and my position with my family, with
01:23:08.240
I just wanted to make sure I had that clear as we go forward in the conversation.
01:23:11.560
Wait, the, is this, this thought process here, has this been sort of instilled in you by
01:23:20.980
No, yeah, for her to recognize that, like, I'm an autonomous person and not an extension
01:23:27.360
of my family, so, because I'm very loyal to my family, so.
01:23:33.120
Well, because it's, I'm, a lot of my attachment to, like, my family is, like, what am I going
01:23:41.560
And so, simultaneously trying to go to school, but with my, the paths I was taking were not
01:23:47.100
giving me, like, that definite courage or empowerment to break off.
01:23:54.820
So, what you're saying is, is that you've never had any other job or you've never done
01:24:00.800
Your dad's going, your dad's going to pass soon.
01:24:02.960
Because he's in hospice care and you don't have any idea where your income's going to come
01:24:07.340
So, I'm, I've been preparing for this, but it's different now.
01:24:22.220
Uh, and you've been doing it since you were 18.
01:24:32.840
Are you, uh, and was it a full-time job or full-time?
01:24:38.600
Well, it started off, like, as the progression of hours, they started to see his, um, how do
01:24:47.100
It starts to deteriorate in his mind and stuff, yeah.
01:24:50.500
So, it progressively was increasing an hour to the point now, present time, recently, within
01:24:55.560
the last two years, I was given extra time for him.
01:25:00.460
So, now I can have days off, which is, you know, I understand, like, oof, now I can have
01:25:05.960
time to myself, see who I am, what I like to do, and take myself out and stuff, even alone.
01:25:25.620
A guy called someone at the end of dinner and asked his mommy for $50?
01:25:30.980
I guess dating in Vegas is not as serious as everywhere else.
01:25:36.200
Um, yeah, um, unfortunately, like, that happens a lot, like, where people seem to need help
01:25:45.140
or a mother more than a dating partner in the, the city.
01:25:50.600
So, most of your dating, most of your dating is Vegas?
01:25:55.340
Um, I moved to Vegas after I separated from my husband.
01:26:00.720
Um, and that is where I've tried to, like, reenter the dating market.
01:26:04.620
However, I've kind of determined maybe it's very much environmental.
01:26:08.100
So, my, uh, one of my children's a senior in high school this year.
01:26:14.620
Well, can I ask you just a quick question before Brian continues his inquiry?
01:26:21.360
Um, and I, I'm, I'm sure you've been to the casinos, right?
01:26:24.820
They have good restaurants and things like this.
01:26:26.880
What do you think about the phenomenon of, like, these really old, saggy cocktail waitresses?
01:26:33.020
Um, who, who kind of, like, prop themselves up and this and that.
01:26:37.700
And they're clearly 50, but pretending to be 20 for, like, what do you think of that?
01:26:41.720
So, um, I actually worked at casinos for a while, um, in operational excellence.
01:26:47.800
So, um, personally, um, I like, I'm of the position, I think it should be an auditioned role.
01:26:57.340
I'm a fan of having, um, like, actor profiles people have to meet, like, age, height, physical
01:27:09.500
So someone being, being interested in politics is maybe an interest for you.
01:27:15.060
It's a very political, um, union contract situation.
01:27:18.820
But I did work for a casino in a non-union casino, and that's the, um, the way that we
01:27:27.900
Um, and there, like, you, you had to meet stats.
01:27:35.020
Um, I was not a cocktail server, except for, um, I did dress as a cocktail server and work
01:27:41.620
Um, but I was more the person interviewing or helping to identify talent for the floor
01:27:47.500
or helping them, like, get drinks to you faster.
01:27:57.660
Can you move your mic to the edge of the table, please?
01:28:00.400
Uh, you said, uh, so the, okay, the guy called you at the end of dinner, asked his mommy for
01:28:06.620
Uh, long story short, you were at a trap house?
01:28:10.740
Yeah, so he, um, he actually, he invited me down for an event, um, to come down with
01:28:17.420
Um, so I did come down there and invited me to dinner afterwards with, like, the whole
01:28:22.100
group, the festivities afterwards, and that's where he started making all of his phone calls
01:28:28.420
Um, asked for a ride quick, so I, like, I took him, we went inside, and, like, next thing
01:28:33.760
Like, they're, they're cutting lines, um, weighing stuff out, you know.
01:28:38.880
Um, so it was not his actual mom, um, or it was?
01:28:46.360
He called her mom, though, so it may or may not have been his mother.
01:28:56.680
Um, you said that, uh, it was probably the best dinner and movie you've had in a while,
01:29:03.000
and not, ironically, you met cool people there at the trap house who you stayed connected
01:29:07.520
with, but not the guy who asked you out on a date.
01:29:13.220
Total train wreck, but I probably needed my help more than anything.
01:29:17.140
Um, but there definitely were a lot of fun, cool people that I met there.
01:29:24.760
So he actually added me on Facebook because of my art.
01:29:28.100
We chatted a little bit, and then invited me to, like, a little pop-up event at a dispensary.
01:29:34.800
The, the pop-up event at the dispensary, was that the first date you guys went on?
01:29:38.660
Yeah, well, I mean, it wasn't like, I didn't go with the intention of it.
01:29:50.020
Physically, mentally, emotionally, and financially to tune of six plus figures a year.
01:29:57.320
Yes, your father was goat for giving you life at 54.
01:30:06.720
No, like, with my father, like, it's not just about, like, the pain that I feel, like,
01:30:11.880
in grieving him, like, day to day, watching him deteriorate.
01:30:16.360
Like, I'm grateful to be alive, and I love living life, so I do have the duality of the
01:30:20.880
experience, for sure, and I'm excited to see what kind of life I can create for myself,
01:30:32.500
Oh, you were telling me how y'all met, because, interestingly enough, I hear a lot of y'all
01:30:37.440
date men who are train wrecks and who have all these issues and things, and I'm wondering
01:30:42.840
just how often that y'all talk and interact with these men before y'all actually get to
01:30:50.200
Like, I went down there with the intent of bringing my art to the pop-up and connected
01:30:56.660
with him and the individuals he was with and agreed to continue to go out.
01:31:01.840
Beyond that, like, what we do see a lot in Vegas, like, if you do dating apps, it's a lot
01:31:05.960
of people visiting Vegas that are just looking for someone to go out for the evening.
01:31:10.020
I'm not really, I would say, like, a relationship.
01:31:15.040
I'm not really, like, dating for me, I'm like, I would rather put a fork in my eye.
01:31:18.980
Like, it's, like, just so much time out of my week.
01:31:21.880
Like, with my, I know it's really dramatic, a fork in my eye.
01:31:26.480
So, I mean, if you're relationship-oriented, then don't you think talking to him, getting
01:31:34.000
to know him a little bit more, I find it interesting, you said he was a train wreck.
01:31:39.020
Like, how long did you actually talk to him before you went out with him and discovered
01:31:45.280
So, again, he invited me out to bring my art to the pop-up.
01:31:51.020
And then he invited me, like, to come to you with them, like, to dinner.
01:31:57.880
I call mommy from the truck house when I'm all out of cereal.
01:32:01.980
She always sends me just under the required amount.
01:32:08.000
Maybe I should call her from her basement instead.
01:32:23.800
So, like, it wasn't, like, a repeat thing for me by any means.
01:32:29.680
Beyond that, it was just people looking for, it just felt more like an escort for the night
01:32:34.460
than actually dating, which for me is not really the best use of my time, I don't think.
01:32:39.700
You said also in your other notes, you're curious what the others have to say
01:32:44.440
I'm always getting asked to pull cards on love.
01:32:46.860
And more often than not, ancestors always say people are either your destiny or a lesson.
01:32:54.640
And I think we just have to work through the lessons to get to our destinies.
01:33:01.760
I mean, I guess you could call me that if you wanted to, but not.
01:33:10.760
So, actually, I have a deck of cards with my art.
01:33:21.640
So, like, you want to talk to your grandma, for example.
01:33:33.540
So, do you mind if I inquire just a slight bit?
01:33:39.640
I can't promise I know the answer, but I'll do my best.
01:33:47.960
Do you have a spiritual guide, of course, that you refer to?
01:33:55.020
So, I would say I typically use, it's my veg this year more than anything, which is, like,
01:34:09.460
So, like, I do have a close relationship with him.
01:34:14.780
You know, I think one would argue that he was pretty talented himself, like, in the craft.
01:34:23.800
The Bible's very specific about not practicing witchcraft, right?
01:34:27.580
I, unfortunately, was not alive at that time, so I cannot state my experience.
01:34:32.800
Well, I mean, you weren't alive when Jesus Christ was around, but you seemed to concede that he existed.
01:34:42.760
I thought that there were scriptures where it states.
01:34:57.180
And I just want to let you know that, unlike many Christians, not only do I not believe that witchcraft is real, and I think many Christians do,
01:35:09.200
but I think that the efficacy of it, meaning how effective it is, I don't, I think it's a con.
01:35:16.460
I don't think that in any way, shape, or form it could ever be demonstrated.
01:35:20.720
And here I'm going to give you an example of why I think this, why I'm skeptical of this.
01:35:25.640
Is this the first time that you've ever met Maddie?
01:35:30.740
This Maddie would be the gal sitting right there.
01:35:41.840
How old, hang on, my question to you is how old is Maddie?
01:35:49.500
Now I've got to ask you, my next question is, are Maddie's parents together or not together?
01:35:57.500
So are you trying to, like, quiz me like a psychic?
01:36:02.400
I guess I'm confused, like, what you're, I don't know if you're personally saying it.
01:36:05.280
Well, you have an internal guide, and this internal guide gives you information about people's personal details, correct?
01:36:16.480
Okay, so the part of it that can, can you give me any details about Maddie right this second, which are not vague, but are actually specific?
01:36:31.780
I just want to let you know that there's no craft in which anybody has ever been able to do this, ever.
01:36:41.720
Uh, now, I think it's because it's all bullshit.
01:36:46.220
But I'm sure that other people would have other kind of reasonings behind it.
01:36:50.060
I just think that it's just completely fraudulent and untrue in every way.
01:36:53.400
Uh, and that's why no psychic nor witchcraft operator nor any, any of these, uh, supposed spiritual gurus can actually give you any of these details.
01:37:02.960
But diving into the type that you do when you're doing tarot cards, uh, is it safe to assume that tarot cards can lead to very vague answers, which are designed in, in what is called a cold reading.
01:37:16.000
The cold reading being that you're utilizing the tarot card in order to pump information out of the person, therefore making it sound like it's more and more specific, even though it's not.
01:37:26.260
And I think you also encounter that with Myers-Briggs.
01:37:31.500
I think most of those things are pretty vague, where it's easy to draw inferences from that.
01:37:37.940
Um, and again, your definition of witchcraft, like when you ask me if I'm a witch, I'm like, sure, you can call me that.
01:37:44.800
Again, I, I don't know that we're totally aligned in what that is, and I'm not necessarily disagreeing from your perspective.
01:37:55.060
A witch is anybody who uses any type of the cosmos, the thing, the craft, the energy, the Jedi, called it the force, whatever you want to appeal to as the, uh, energies which are around in which you appeal to for answers to various questions and insights, which you get from some internalized feeling that would be witchcraft.
01:38:22.460
So that's when I say witch, that's what I'm referring to, right?
01:38:26.940
It doesn't matter if you're doing a spell, for instance, if you're doing a spell, you're appealing to some kind of energy.
01:38:32.640
If you're doing tarot, you're appealing to some kind of energy, right?
01:38:36.000
There's something there which is guiding some kind of like internalized compass so that you can have some answer to something, right?
01:38:43.880
So I'm just curious, when you do tarot cards, right, what types of results have you had?
01:38:55.360
So like my preferred way to use them is like for daily affirmation.
01:38:59.240
So like I'll, I'll shuffle them and pull one, like just for myself to meditate on and kind of study for the day.
01:39:06.360
Um, and they're usually like some type of self-development kind of guide.
01:39:10.920
Um, that's, that's the way that I use the tool.
01:39:14.140
Um, and there have been situations, like I said, where I've had people's like ancestors come in, like interfere.
01:39:20.180
And I've had to like use cards and how do they, how do they interfere?
01:39:25.060
By the, by the way, before you answer that, what type of deck do you use?
01:39:28.080
Um, I have my own cards that I use currently, like made with my artwork.
01:39:35.020
It's artwork that I created like over the course of four years.
01:39:39.020
Did you model them off of another deck or model them off of a different style or model them off of something?
01:39:44.360
Um, it's like the standard, uh, Rider Waite Zero.
01:39:50.920
And you, did you make them because you thought that they would have more efficacy if you did,
01:39:56.880
No, I just made them because it's something I always wanted to create.
01:40:00.960
Like it's just something I always wanted to create.
01:40:03.240
It was, it was one of the, the things I put on my vision board.
01:40:17.640
It's not something that I do like by any means like that.
01:40:25.060
I'm just, I just want to move to the ancestors.
01:40:32.100
Well, I mean, I've had some interesting, like, uh, tech gets disrupted a lot.
01:40:36.640
So like a lot of technology disruptions I've had, um, like things physically like fall off
01:40:42.640
What, what sorts of, uh, technology interruptions?
01:40:45.840
Um, I mean, I've had screens just go blue screen.
01:40:57.080
Like you have to go off of timing on what you feel and like what's going on in the environment.
01:41:01.740
Um, it doesn't happen all the time, but there have been situations where you get physical
01:41:06.180
disruptions or like you'll hear something come through on music.
01:41:09.280
Like, um, that's another one that happens a lot.
01:41:11.400
Like music will skip and jump, like totally change genres.
01:41:16.820
It's like, I was not listening to her, you know, like totally switched from that.
01:41:20.980
Well, actually I do understand, I do understand this phenomenon.
01:41:23.600
Um, I've, uh, I've run some experiments myself just because I think it's, uh, it's interesting
01:41:28.460
that people move towards this type of phenomenon at all.
01:41:32.300
Um, now I haven't experimented with, uh, with witchcraft or, or any of that.
01:41:37.400
Uh, my experiments are purely through the investigatory, but I'd like to ask you this, this question.
01:41:44.020
And I ask kind of everybody who deals in occultism the same one, and I'd like to ask it to you
01:41:50.940
If you were to take three people and you were to walk them into a home, which was very
01:41:58.840
And he told them that an ax murderer lived in the home.
01:42:03.640
And he had, um, you know, done horrible things to the people who were around him in this home
01:42:07.820
and this and that, and that they were going to spend a night there.
01:42:11.800
And you were going to pay them, let's say $500.
01:42:13.560
And then he took a family after them and he put them in that same home.
01:42:20.460
A very loving, kind man who's still alive along with my grandma.
01:42:24.700
And he raised me in this home and it was a great loving environment.
01:42:31.600
Uh, which one do you think would be more likely to have had a spooky experience the
01:42:36.040
If you had to guess, if you had, if you were in Vegas and you were gambling and somebody
01:42:40.000
gave you that exact hypothetical, who would you guess the next day?
01:42:44.220
Who would you put all of your money on that would have a spooky experience?
01:42:49.560
I missed part of it with the motorcycle going by, but I'm guessing this is like a little bit
01:42:57.680
So whomever you influence the most is, I'm guessing what your answer is, because I didn't
01:43:05.060
So you think that if you say it's the axe murderer, it's an axe murderer's house, they
01:43:09.300
would be far more likely to have the spooky experience than not?
01:43:12.420
No, I'm saying I missed the last half of what you were saying.
01:43:15.940
So, so here, I'll just repeat it very, very briefly, very briefly.
01:43:19.360
If you were to take a family and say an axe murderer lived in this spooky house, okay, and
01:43:24.380
then you took a separate family and told them that your grandfather lived in the house and
01:43:28.400
a loving family and you grew up there, okay, and they both stayed the night in the house,
01:43:32.620
which family do you think would be more likely to have a, quote, spooky experience?
01:43:36.880
A hundred percent the first one, because I think we both agree that it starts with your
01:43:40.600
minds, like it starts with your thoughts and what you're thinking.
01:43:43.040
So again, that's where I go back to, I use the cards more for like self-guided growth,
01:43:48.340
and it's about like learning to control your, your mental, like to shift it from a negative
01:43:54.800
I don't, I don't know that I necessarily maybe use it the way you're accustomed to,
01:44:00.380
but I use it more as like a personal journey, like a personal growth thing.
01:44:08.440
Well, I'm just, I guess the reason I ask, and I'll just end it with this so Brian can
01:44:11.660
move the topic, but the reason that I ask is because if the answer to the question is
01:44:17.600
the first, right, then couldn't you equally just be psyching yourself up to where you
01:44:22.780
map these experiences, which have very common explanations, like windows crashing, for instance,
01:44:27.820
or book falling, or any number of these different things, which if they happened outside of this,
01:44:33.280
you playing with these cards, you would brush off as being a normal experience.
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But the second they happen in relationship to the cards, now they're somehow supernatural.
01:44:42.540
I wonder if you're not kind of playing into your own bias.
01:44:52.180
And I think anyone who explores anything about needs to be very cognizant of that because,
01:44:58.080
you know, and I think the risk is that a person can totally fall into delusion, like doing
01:45:05.480
Um, but again, for me, like maybe it is, like I got into it more and like investigative
01:45:12.000
Like it was totally curiosity killed the cat situation with me.
01:45:19.820
I don't think, I don't think it's something everybody should necessarily jump into and do.
01:45:28.760
You said, um, actually let me do a couple of jads here.
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Andrew, comment the story in the OT when God commands prophet Hosea to marry a blank and
01:45:45.900
she goes back to the brothel and still God orders him to go after her.
01:46:07.260
Um, doesn't, if you want to send in another one to clarify, but it does not sound like,
01:46:12.280
uh, Andrew really has an answer for you given the way you asked it.
01:46:18.660
If a woman can't add simple numbers together, nor remember what year they were born on,
01:46:24.980
Well, she's Mexican, so she can't vote in the United States.
01:46:39.880
Satanists believe that Jesus Christ, it's an effort to gain your trust like honey to a bear.
01:46:56.180
And then we, oh, Kill of Cereal coming in here in just a sec.
01:47:03.320
What was your most embarrassing tarot card reading?
01:47:09.780
To all, what is your most embarrassing dating or carnal knowledge stories?
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I dated a girl who kept punching me in the face while I was driving.
01:47:37.120
She said it was cause Mercury was in retrograde and we were entering Saturn's third house and the moon was full.
01:47:49.720
By the way, apparently Twitch, uh, shout out Twitch, they gifted two subs about 20 minutes ago.
01:47:55.580
So I just wanted to, uh, it's the official Twitch.
01:48:00.140
I feel like it should be a sub for every episode considering how much money you make Twitch.
01:48:05.960
I don't disagree with you, Andrew, but look, you know, the, they probably have the, the poor unpaid intern over there at Twitch.
01:48:13.260
It's, they, they got the, the higher ups are like, look, you can only do like 10, 15 here and there.
01:48:25.520
If you want to give us a quick, is there even one?
01:48:27.940
I don't, I don't know if there's necessarily an embarrassing, I mean, I've had awkward ones for sure.
01:48:33.300
Like where people like want a reading on somebody maybe they're in a relationship with and it like, they're the problem, you know, like that.
01:48:41.740
So I would say like maybe awkward ones like that.
01:48:47.740
Uh, so going around the table, most embarrassing dating or hookup story?
01:49:06.740
I met a guy and, um, we were like on the same page and I thought he could be like a good friend to me and, um, we like didn't, like I thought we wouldn't, like, so I met him before.
01:49:22.840
And then we had this like kind of date where I thought we would just be friends and go out for lunch or dinner.
01:49:34.240
And then he was like the whole time talking about that it's a date and that he's friends, like, where, like prepared him for if she did this, then it's a date.
01:49:47.880
And then, like, like, the date, like, the date, like, the kind of date, it turned to be a date and it was, like, very nice and like a very nice evening and we went to his place and he was, like, taking my clothes off.
01:50:02.540
I was, like, 10 years ago and he was taking my clothes off and he, like, I had a, I was wearing a black bra and he was like, okay, my friend said if she's wearing matching underwear, then it's a date.
01:50:16.380
And I was literally wearing, like, a black bra and a white panties and it was, like, like a very embarrassing part because I was like, oh, my God, should I, like, just stop it to don't make it worse?
01:50:43.120
I just, uh, dating with one guy and I decide finish that relationship because it's still, stay in bed.
01:50:51.040
I'm asleep and I feel he jerking off on bed, you know?
01:50:57.760
And I wake up and I don't want to move because I saw he see the phone and I want to know why he, he watch on the phone, you know, between he jerking off.
01:51:14.600
So, and I, I do very fast mood and I say, what do you do?
01:51:20.000
So, and I saw he have the imagine, like, anime, anime, anime imagine and they jerking off and I say, you're fucking crazy.
01:51:32.760
And I leave him and I feel so bad, super unrespectful because I'm there.
01:51:41.100
Why jerking off next to me with that, that imagine?
01:51:48.540
I wake up to the bed and I go to the living room and next day I say, bye.
01:52:09.960
Was like on a third date with someone this year and they asked me for a kiss and I just said, no, I'm sorry.
01:52:29.120
I was trying to get to know him and consider, like, what other forms of attraction there are to come.
01:52:41.680
Did you hear about the Tarot Readers Convention?
01:52:44.960
It was a real card party, but everyone saw it coming.
01:52:59.980
Well, he asked me if he can kiss me and I respectfully declined.
01:53:13.280
Like, from him, so I can't, I don't know if he...
01:53:15.620
Did you not want the fourth date because he tried to kiss you?
01:53:18.580
No, I just, at the third date, I kind of realized that it...
01:53:22.540
There wasn't enough for me to convince myself to continue this.
01:53:27.640
Like, you know how there's different levels of attraction?
01:53:31.620
Like, you can be attracted to someone who's, like, intellectually stimulating or someone's physical, like, the physical, the way they look and stuff like that.
01:53:38.640
So, his personality, to me, personally, was not...
01:53:42.640
Didn't make me feel like we had that connection for me to continue.
01:53:52.840
I just kind of started to feel like he was doing a lot of, like, people-pleasing, like, trying to agree with me a lot.
01:53:59.920
I didn't feel like he was his own person and, like, his own individual self, like, to have his own opinions or even, like, just be, like, you know, what he likes to do or whatever.
01:54:09.160
He was just kind of more so all about me and...
01:54:22.860
This was, like, you said two years ago this was?
01:54:46.320
Otherwise, I mean, you said there wasn't the connection, but was he otherwise a decent,
01:54:50.980
Yeah, that's why I went on more than one date with him, to, like, evaluate how I was feeling
01:54:57.200
Like, what I can tolerate and what I admire, what I could respect, and just kind of understand.
01:55:19.000
Well, I mean, it kind of comes off a little manipulative if he's too nice.
01:55:25.400
Like, is he just trying to please me, or is he trying to, like...
01:55:28.700
Does he even accept himself with his own opinions, the way he carries himself, his personality,
01:55:35.080
Like, I didn't feel like he was bringing his authenticity, like, meeting me.
01:55:39.700
Like, so it kind of made me a little skeptical.
01:55:45.960
The point where you're just too agreeable with a woman that she just turned off by you.
01:56:02.000
They are family-oriented and take care of their parents.
01:56:15.000
So, most embarrassing thing, third date, goes for the kiss.
01:56:20.860
I think my Traffauts Dinner and Movie was about it.
01:56:24.720
I really like seafood, and I had this guy take me out for oysters, and I put maybe too
01:56:31.280
much horseradish on it, and I went to tilt my head back, and I was locking eyes with him,
01:56:35.520
and I was trying to be sexy, and I ate it, but I put way too much horseradish on it, and
01:56:42.040
It was not hot at all, and he was not stoked about it.
01:56:46.400
I went on a date with this guy, and he just smelled bad, like, body odor.
01:56:58.320
I actually got a lot of stories, but one comes to mind.
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I had a woman, my sister has a lot of friends growing up, and all her friends pretty much
01:57:09.840
liked me, so when they would come to stay over, you know, they would want to be in my
01:57:13.920
room and hovering around me, and one friend in particular, I wasn't attracted to her,
01:57:19.600
and I was about to go to sleep, and my parents had already went to sleep, and she was staying
01:57:24.580
in my sister's room, and she comes in my room, and as I'm asleep, she gets in the bed with
01:57:30.280
me, and when she gets in the bed with me, she just starts trying to kiss on me and everything.
01:57:37.640
I don't like you like that, and she was, like, basically deluded into believing that I liked
01:57:42.420
her, and she pulled my pants down, started performing fellatio.
01:57:47.440
I wasn't turned on, and then she got up and looked at me, and she was like, don't you
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Like, no, get out of my room, like, and she just, like, I tried to get into it just because
01:57:58.240
the opportunity was there, but I just wasn't attracted to her, and to this day, it still
01:58:04.960
Like, I close my eyes, I see her, like, don't you want to eat?
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And I'm like, like, yeah, like, absolutely not, no.
01:58:24.060
We went to a tea house, and then we went to a local park, and we were sitting, and we
01:58:29.480
were smoking, having a good time, having some good conversation that, you know, got kind
01:58:35.760
I decided that it would be a fun idea to bring up a video that, like, kind of explains the
01:58:42.980
nine dimensions of the universe or whatever, and then we get to, like, the middle of it,
01:58:49.740
And they want me to hold their hand, and I was like, no, I don't think that's, I'm comfortable
01:58:58.060
They started getting angry and short with me, and then they slammed my car door after
01:59:03.760
we parted ways, and they still called me and were like, I need you to, I need you to lead
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me to get out of here because I don't know where I'm at.
01:59:12.380
And I'm like, you're being so disrespectful, and you still want me to, like, guide you,
01:59:17.300
So then I guided him out, and then I kept driving as soon as he took his exit and then
01:59:22.600
drove around for a few hours because that was a little alarming for my taste.
01:59:30.640
I haven't heard anything back from that guy, so that's, everything's all good after that.
01:59:34.220
But that was probably the most awkward one, other than the mall at 17, and, you know,
01:59:39.820
Pennsylvania, but we don't have to talk about that anymore.
01:59:46.120
Going back to the pre-show notes here, Sarah, you said it's honestly a little nauseating
01:59:55.380
I think most people are totally unrealistic and delusional with what they expect from other
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people and how much they mask who they truly are and need to address that, not date.
02:00:04.800
It could be the vaguest environment contributing to this, though.
02:00:07.560
Yeah, so I go back to, like, a lot of, hey, let's go out.
02:00:13.060
I want to be in a relationship, but the reality is I'm just visiting, you know, or, like, I just
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All right, going to the definitely 24-year-old Maridia.
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You said men who invite you out and pretend to forget their world.
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This question is for the Jackie Kennedy Onassis look like.
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Okay, so going to you, you said, by the way, thank you for the TTS.
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Men who invite you out and pretend to forget their wallet.
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Let me just look it up in my Instagram just to.
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It's literally, bro, did your fucking OF manager type this shit out for you?
02:02:10.340
Yeah, that's weird because, so, in my casting questions that we, you responded to September
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14th, 2024, we asked for your age, occupation, relationship status, location.
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Um, I don't know if it's your lying or the voice that bothers me the most, but, um, anyways,
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sorry I'm being sassy, but the lying is very annoying.
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You literally wrote, in response to question 13, any dating topics takes you want to speak
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You wrote, men who invite you out and pretend to forget their wallet.
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But, obviously, if that happens, to me, I don't go out with this guy anymore.
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It was the first thing you wrote in your notes.
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Or do you just want to say that your OnlyFans manager.
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You're the only one who has access to your Instagram account?
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Um, I don't remember, but no, it doesn't happen to me.
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It never happened to you, but you want to talk about it.
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Maybe something, like, one day, but I don't think I put that.
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You said men who don't want to commit to anything with women and just want to have sex?
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I say that some guys don't want to do nothing for you, just want dating and have sex, and
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Um, yeah, sometimes, but I do not permit that things happen.
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The, your question was the, again, you can ask me again.
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Not now, because I'm not permit the guys treat me like that, you know?
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If the guys ask me for go out, I don't, like, like her, I'm knowing the first date or third
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A guy needs to buy a car for you to go on a date with you?
02:05:46.360
No, not a date, but if he wants something more with me, he can buy me something.
02:05:55.600
Not really, because I show the guys I want to pay the things for me.
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If you date, you ask me for date, I show, because in the beginning, you need, like, I need like
02:06:22.860
Like, seriously, Brian, how much longer are we going to put up with this, right?
02:06:27.540
Like, just, just use the normal voice and stop bullshitting and let's, let's actually, you know, without, without the trolling, let's do it.
02:06:37.060
I don't think the voice, I don't think she's faking the voice, to be honest.
02:06:48.520
Honestly, I would avoid that, though, because you're going to get.
02:06:50.420
Okay, I show the guys that I want, he pay something for me or buy me something.
02:07:13.420
Can someone translate what the hell she's saying?
02:07:31.300
Oh, one of the guys just to date, he buy me a car.
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And then, if I decide to stay more with him, he buy me a car.
02:08:02.340
So, you used to have sex freely with men, but then they started, they heard you speak, and then they obviously left you.
02:08:14.040
So, you've had this issue where you have sex with a guy and he leaves, now you make them wait for sex, and they sometimes have to buy you things to get the sex.
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She totally denies stuff happened, plays like she forgot, or twists the truth.
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I don't really get the whole, like, well, I fucked like 10 dudes on the first night in my past, but now that I'm older and less attractive.
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And I'm not talking about you specifically, but now that I'm older, less attractive, I have more baggage.
02:09:07.560
Now I'm going to wait, make men wait weeks, months, years, or even until marriage to have sex with them.
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Do any other panelists want to weigh in on this particular topic?
02:09:37.020
The whole, well, I had no problems, no quarrel, no qualms with sleeping with somebody quickly when I was younger.
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Meet a guy at the party, fuck him the same night.
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Now that I'm in my late 20s or 30s and I'm less attractive, I've got a ton of relationship baggage.
02:09:56.660
Probably going to be more a pain in the ass than I was when I was younger.
02:10:01.100
Now I want to make men wait weeks, months, or even until marriage to give them sex.
02:10:08.880
Why is she less attractive just because she's older?
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It's most attractive, the older men, than young.
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It's my example that I feel attractive with older men.
02:10:42.540
Or what do you think about that I'm less attractive because I'm old?
02:10:53.300
Okay, so to your point, yeah, as you get older, and I even apply this to men too,
02:10:59.380
although there's a differential in terms of what men and women find attractive.
02:11:04.080
Yeah, you become less physically attractive as you get older.
02:11:06.100
I don't think so because, I mean, it depends on you.
02:11:10.840
You can be ugly when you're young, and especially with men.
02:11:14.680
Men are like, I don't know, they don't take care of them when they're young,
02:11:19.660
and then they grow their mature, and then they start taking care of them
02:11:25.680
or going to the gym or something, and it's the same for women.
02:11:33.160
and then when you start taking care of you and, like, I don't know, doing exercise.
02:11:38.700
So you're saying your face literally transforms.
02:11:49.900
Can women have children only for a limited amount of time?
02:11:54.680
Can women have kids for only a limited amount of time?
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Like, there becomes a point where you can't have kids anymore, right?
02:12:03.600
Because what do you think makes you attractive?
02:12:07.220
Your curves, the way your breasts sit, your hips, your ass, all of those things.
02:12:23.200
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, period, period.
02:12:25.600
You're going to look better when you're younger because your indicators of your fertility are
02:12:30.380
going to be better when you're younger than they are when you're younger.
02:12:46.600
I mean, just because aging works this way, it doesn't mean that a young person is more
02:12:56.780
I mean, when I was young, I didn't like know, like I wasn't just not comfortable with myself.
02:13:04.180
Like I was like a little bit like thick and I just grew in my curves.
02:13:10.820
And like I didn't know anything about fashion or makeup or like I was lazy.
02:13:20.440
And then I got older and I just like I realized that I want to like have a nice life and live
02:13:31.800
And I started to like like have more interest in makeup and hair and how I look and like
02:13:44.860
And I'm sure like if you like have a hot old woman and a hot young woman, men would prefer
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You're just like you can look hard when you're old, too.
02:14:09.800
So the dispute is not whether or not there can be attractive older women.
02:14:13.220
Q agrees that there can be very attractive older women.
02:14:19.640
So let me just very quickly ask you a question.
02:14:33.660
Isn't the goal of evolution to procreate a species?
02:14:49.800
So if you have to make babies and there's only so much time in which you can make a baby
02:14:54.220
with a person, doesn't it stand to reason that men would be attracted to younger women,
02:15:01.340
I just said, if you have a hot woman that is young and one that is old, men would prefer
02:15:11.940
The thing is, Brian said she was, why would she think that her time and she is more worth
02:15:21.960
now when she was more attractive when she was young?
02:15:31.920
But it stands to reason, hang on, it stands to reason that if men are attracted to women
02:15:38.860
for the purpose of procreation, which you would have to believe if you believed in evolution,
02:15:44.200
why else would you be attracted to women except that you wanted to have sex with them?
02:15:48.220
Then the idea here that most women, when they get older, are more attractive than when
02:16:03.020
I mean, when you, like a 50 years old man and you marrying within your age, like a 50 years
02:16:11.580
old woman, you decided you're attracted to her.
02:16:24.660
Listen, let's say the 50 year old man can have that same woman, but she's 30 years younger.
02:16:35.400
Overwhelmingly would take the woman who's 30 years younger.
02:16:37.860
So this idea, this idea then, this idea then that when most women say that they're going
02:16:44.060
to be more attractive when they're older, I mean, isn't that just kind of cope?
02:16:47.440
Isn't that just like dear cope to think that men are going to be more attractive to a woman
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when she's older rather than her younger self in most cases?
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When she's hard, when she's taking more care of her than when she was young.
02:17:03.620
Wait, and let me get you for a second, because you said you're 24.
02:17:08.120
And when I said you look older than 24, you seemingly got offended.
02:17:23.440
So why would you feel that way if you didn't know that being 24 was inherently better?
02:17:28.780
Some guys, when I try to go out with them, I like older guys, like 45 to 50 guys.
02:17:42.260
Wait, I'm just curious as to why you want to be 24.
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I don't know, because I feel I don't look older.
02:17:53.800
If you knew that you looked better older, then why would it offend you that I said you look older if you're 24?
02:18:08.160
Q, that's actually, this is a new argument that I've not heard yet.
02:18:12.300
So if you tell a woman, if you guess her age and you guess that it's older than it actually is,
02:18:17.340
there's going to be a tendency for women to find that offensive.
02:18:20.240
Yeah, when we ask this question, stop, stop, stop.
02:18:22.900
When you ask this question, do you think you'll be better looking when you're five years, ten years time?
02:18:29.140
But if you tell them they look older than they actually are, they're offended.
02:18:46.980
I was the one who was asking, why do you think she's less attractive?
02:19:21.060
I went and looked it up because I was just curious.
02:19:23.280
How old do you think the youngest barred attorney in Mexico is?
02:19:29.100
How old is the youngest barred attorney in Mexico?
02:19:32.940
Do you want to give me a guess how old that is?
02:19:52.720
What is the age of the youngest attorney in Mexico?
02:20:35.940
Well, I don't understand your question, but yes.
02:20:43.640
Do you usually get a bachelor's degree in five years or four years?
02:20:48.920
Or a master's degree in five years or four years?
02:21:08.640
You had a bachelor's degree, four years, right?
02:21:15.280
And then you got a master's degree, which took you another year, right?
02:21:18.900
And then you went to law school for three years, right?
02:22:12.540
You agree that's how many years it takes to get a bachelor's degree, right?
02:22:19.840
Would you get offended if it came from a female?
02:22:24.400
On that topic, what is one thing a woman could tell another woman versus a man telling her
02:22:32.500
Before we do that, though, I want to finish this.
02:22:38.200
Do you agree that that's the amount of years it takes to get a bachelor's degree?
02:22:48.700
This is a perfect example of the Lizzo paradigm.
02:22:54.880
Now, you appear to look way older than you claim, which is so beautiful.
02:23:09.660
That's how many years it takes to get a bachelor's degree, right?
02:23:15.400
That's how many years it takes to get a bachelor's degree?
02:23:27.760
Is that how many years for a master's degree is one?
02:23:39.480
Yeah, yeah, so three more fingers, and that would be your law degree, right?
02:24:02.500
How many years old would you have to be at 18 plus eight?
02:24:26.920
Anybody with the fake accents from no existent places in the world?
02:24:58.980
So, yeah, women are not as good-looking at 30 than they are at 20, generally speaking.
02:25:12.400
I mean, being young is something, like, beautiful, but I just think that being attractive
02:25:27.720
But you are not, you don't, like, you're not attractive only because you're young, and
02:25:36.320
you're not less attractive only because you're old.
02:25:39.440
You can be more attractive when you're old if you haven't been...
02:25:44.980
I don't say that all young women are less attractive than older women.
02:25:51.560
I just say you can say, and I don't care if this is, like, coming from a man or from
02:26:00.520
Because I think you can grow up and be, like, more attractive and, like, grow in yourself,
02:26:07.180
Yeah, but this whole idea, this whole idea that, okay, you were insanely unhealthy at
02:26:13.500
the age of 18, and you were morbidly obese, and then by the time you turn 30, you're like
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a fitness competitor, and you're at your peak health, and you're not drinking, you're not
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It's sort of such an extreme, to some degree, extreme example.
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Most people, typically, as they age, they tend to gain weight.
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They're less capable of maintaining healthy weight as they age.
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There's just certain ramifications that are inevitable when it comes to aging.
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For example, even when it comes to your health, you know, you're going to get wrinkles as you
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These are not really things that you can, you can do things to perhaps help it, mitigate
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But to compare, for example, the skin quality of a 40-year-old to a 20-year-old is laughable.
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But basically, you tell me, you tell me that to me, because I asked the guy something,
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you say, but if you are old, you can't afford, like, what, yeah, you try.
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This whole, this all stemmed from, look, this all stemmed from me basically saying that
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y'all, your best years, your best years, you give sex away freely to the jerks.
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You've literally admitted to doing this, you, you were less, there was less discretion when
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Now, after you've had more sexual encounters, you have more relationship baggage, you're
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Sorry, it just, as you age, that's the reality.
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I have less to offer, I have less to offer, but I demand more.
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And every year, you, you get less and less attractive.
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Maybe you, you, yes, you're less attractive, but it's not about you.
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I'm talking about people in general, but you're not less worth just because I'm not
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talking about your, but that's what you're doing.
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That's why you're describing it the way that you're describing it.
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He was, he said, why did you give sex for free when you were young and more attractive
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You don't understand basic sentences and you get confused with every question.
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If she even is, if she even is or was a lawyer, they, the court needs to look at all her cases
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and just totally, I mean, it's just such a, uh, okay, go ahead.
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Like you said, why did you give sex for free when you were young and more attractive and
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hit, you were more worth it than now, like where you have, when you have aged and had
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more sexual partners and everything, you like think you are more worth, but this is not only
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You are like, you have more experience in life.
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Do you think men care about a woman's experience?
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Like, do you think that your experience in life makes you more attractive to a man?
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So the more you've traveled, AKA translation, I've been to countries, perhaps even alone,
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Tell me your experience that would make you more attractive to a man.
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You should use the word, use the word, use the word.
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You said as women get older, they have more experiences, which makes them more attractive
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So you, you said, you, you talked about traveling.
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So I traveled a lot when I was young, when I was good.
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You think me as a guy or any man, we're looking at a girl and it's like, oh damn, she didn't
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Never in the history of humankind has a man ever thought, she hasn't traveled to enough
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Maybe because don't feel inspired of that woman.
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I didn't say they wouldn't date me if I, because they have never been.
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So it has nothing to, if they wouldn't date you because of it, then it has nothing to
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do with whether they'd be attracted to you or not.
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I mean, they're attractive to, attractive to my personality.
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So you think the deal breaker, you think the deal breaker would be, had you not traveled
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for any given woman, had she not done a sufficient, a sufficient amount of traveling, a man would
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Like in life, I traveled, I, I cook better than I do now.
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I was stupid and naive when I was young and some guys are not attractive to that.
02:31:58.540
So you're less, because of your, because now you're involved in sex work.
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So now you're less attractive, but that's part of your experience, right?
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Does sex work make you more or less attractive to men?
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Many older men would rather have a relationship with an older, experienced woman.
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God forbid I have to teach a young woman how to do sex.
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Can we change the subject and talk about Passport Brothers?
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Uh, Forrest Gump, thank you very much for the TTS man.
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We can maybe touch on Passport Bros a little bit, a little bit later, but let's finish up
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So your experience, it makes you more attractive to men.
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You didn't like talk about you in this part, but like, what do you have from a woman who's
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You can, you can have like a deep conversation with her.
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But like, how intelligent is she without any experience?
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She's like, when she's like 18, she's like maybe living with her parents.
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I mean, she's a beautiful, she's a beautiful woman and she like, she will grow.
02:33:34.180
I, I never said a young woman is less attractive than an older.
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And I didn't say an older woman is less attractive than a young woman.
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I just say, you can't just like say an older woman is always less attractive than she was
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There's always going to be exceptions to the rule.
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But the point is, we're looking at what men value and men typically value youth and fertility.
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And that's typically indicated by how you physically look.
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So because that's what we value now, you're not wrong if there's some men who prefer experience
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Yes, but then you're talking about what has, what elevates your attractiveness more, experience
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Your physical appearance is going to have, it's going to be weighted heavier than your experience
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when it comes to your physical attractiveness because at the end of the day, we respond
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We look at your body, markers of fertility that typically corresponds to your age.
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The older you get, the more those markers of fertility diminishes and the less attractive
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I just say like you can be hot when you're old when you were not that hot when you were
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It's just, he said, like, why did he assume that she was more hot than not?
02:35:19.520
And the only thing that I said is, I don't think we should assume that because...
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Well, what do you think is the more common case?
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You think more women become more attractive as they get older or the women who aren't
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Women who aren't that attractive, they may get attractive when they get older.
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You think that happens more or less than women who get less attractive when they age?
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I think that depends on the woman and also on what a man wants in his life and what he
02:35:59.760
Yeah, but if you had to guess which happens more, because one does happen more.
02:36:15.220
I haven't said you are wrong, and I haven't said it's not, like, common.
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If it's common, then that means more women get less attractive when they age.
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If we know what biology does, then why wouldn't we assume that biology works the same way
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I said if we know what biology typically does on average, which is women get less attractive
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physically, sexually, as they age, then why would we assume that that doesn't stand
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Not every guy would agree with your point that the woman is getting less attractive.
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Just because she's getting physically attractive.
02:37:15.900
It's maybe more common that a woman and a man is getting less attractive with his age.
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What if I told you there was evidence and data on what the most attractive age a woman
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I just wanted to point out we haven't actually established she's in her 20s.
02:37:54.360
Okay, so let's say we take a poll and we ask 1,000 men, which age of attractiveness is
02:38:33.500
Thinning hair really complements your sun-dried, wrinkled skin.
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Do you think the average 35-year-old woman is more attractive than the average 25-year-old
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I say a woman can be more hot when she's like 35.
02:39:05.820
A woman could have been morbidly obese and a heroin addict at 25, and she cleaned up
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her life, and she's now a fitness bodybuilder at 35, and she knows how to do her hair,
02:39:17.440
and do her makeup, and all that fucking bullshit.
02:39:20.300
Absolutely, you can be more attractive at 35 than you were at 25.
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If I can grant that there are these exceptions, can you answer the question?
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Is the average 35-year-old woman more attractive than the average 25-year-old woman?
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Stifler, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
02:40:31.060
Well, I mean, in front of all these magnificent-looking ladies, how could I be less than a 10?
02:40:47.680
Andrew, you can't let her talk to you like that.
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You cannot let her talk to you like that, Andrew.
02:40:55.340
Okay, now, when I saw the picture, you are definitely a 7.
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I was way better looking in that picture than you are right now.
02:41:05.800
Just to be clear, you would be settling for even young Andrew.
02:41:09.300
No, I said he's now an 8 because I saw the picture and I...
02:41:24.000
I said I saw the picture and I think he is more attractive now.
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But if I see the young Andrew and I say, okay, he's not a 0, but he is, like, much more attractive now.
02:41:49.740
So, to this point, when I would give him a 4 when he was young, I would say, okay, like, he grew, like, he...
02:42:04.560
And then you said, I agree, before I showed you the young picture of him.
02:42:11.000
So, how would seeing his young self now increase his ranking from a 4 to, I think you said, 7 or 8?
02:42:42.440
So, do you think you're the most beautiful woman at the table?
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For me, for me, everybody have different perspectives.
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You chicks are like, you'll get a banner of yourself naked and just stick it in front
02:43:52.240
of a person and you'd be like, you looked at it.
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Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
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Alberta Kid says this is the Special Olympics version of mental gymnastics.
02:44:46.300
You'll be better looking in 10 years' time at 38?
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I hope a fucking Jeff Bezos donates me $10 billion.
02:45:24.180
Well, so in my personal experience, I've gotten better looking since I was younger.
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The sexiest part of a woman is her brain from Forrest Gump.
02:46:01.520
So I don't know if they deserve it, to be honest.
02:46:28.580
Can I get the straight answer out of anybody tonight?
02:46:56.260
Let's say that there was a dude who was like, let's say, 18, and he was like an Olympic
02:47:02.980
powerlifter, and he was really good looking, and all the women fawned off for him.
02:47:06.580
And some guy was like, do you think that if you were in a tragic oil rig accident where
02:47:12.080
there was a massive explosion, it blew half of your face off, and your tongue was hanging
02:47:16.020
out of your mouth, and your face was just almost totally melted off, do you think that
02:47:22.620
And he was like, well, by my standards, I think I'd be better.
02:47:24.920
Like, do you think that that would be an answer, really?
02:47:28.360
Do you think that people wouldn't be like, come on, dude?
02:47:34.260
By my standards, if my tongue was hanging out of my cheek that was melted completely off,
02:47:38.960
and you could see my entire side of my skull, I think I'd be better looking by my standards.
02:47:46.180
No, if I was in that situation, I'd probably hate myself.
02:47:50.860
But the idea here is, would you think that that was an honest answer if he was like,
02:47:57.200
In fact, by my standards, I'm going to go find an oil rig job right now so half my face
02:48:02.340
That way, by my standards, I'm the most beautiful.
02:48:10.800
I mean, you're not wrong, but it seems a little dramatic.
02:48:15.020
Yeah, well, I mean, I'm dramatizing it for the express purpose of showing you kind of how
02:48:22.740
In 20 years, are you going to be better looking or not by your own estimation, honestly?
02:48:27.900
Based off of the rate that I've been going at right now, yes.
02:48:39.160
Going around the table, then, with this question.
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Do you think you'll be better looking in your 30?
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You can be more attractive older, but it will be a lot of hours in gym or money in plastic
02:48:55.540
With no dollar put back into your look, it will be impossible to combat age.
02:49:04.940
Also, we're going to pull your, we have your Instagram, which has, like, photos from 10
02:49:12.680
Do you think you'll be, or do you think you're better looking now at 28 than you were at 18?
02:49:34.260
If, if I work hard on myself, and, yeah, I think in 20 years too, yes.
02:49:51.640
If I don't change, like, my, um, I mean, one day in my life, they will get a, I will get
02:49:59.720
up to a point where I just stop caring about how I look.
02:50:04.440
And at this point, I will probably stop looking, like, getting more attractive.
02:50:12.640
I don't know if it's in 30 years, in 40 years, but, yeah, the next 20, 25, 30 years, definitely.
02:50:38.020
Uh, okay, you're 20, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
02:50:46.840
Oh, and then for you, really quick, uh, are you better looking now at 30 than you were
02:50:52.840
Uh, moving to you, you're 30, better looking in 10 years' time.
02:50:55.560
Will you be better looking at 40 than you are now at 30?
02:50:58.200
No, I believe that as I age, um, it won't be as comparable to me and my youth.
02:51:03.920
And then are you better looking now at 30 than you were at 20?
02:51:11.480
Uh, and then you, you're 44, better looking in 10 years' time at 54?
02:51:16.060
No, because I remember what I looked like at 34.
02:51:18.180
Uh, and then were you better looking at 34 than you are now?
02:51:21.780
And then better looking at 24 than you are at 34?
02:51:31.660
Well, better looking at 24 than you are now at 44?
02:51:37.840
But better looking at 24 than you are now at 44?
02:51:46.080
I mean, I, I think I do look a little bit better now.
02:51:54.400
Uh, you're 34, better looking in 10 years' time?
02:52:01.880
And then were you better looking at 24 than you are now at 34?
02:52:35.380
this is a form of what's known as cognitive reappraisal.
02:52:39.620
It's a psychological phenomenon that women typically engage in
02:52:42.800
to where they don't want to accept the negative aspects of their realities,
02:52:48.600
so they simply shape their mentality to make it more positive.
02:53:25.820
Click on the one on the right with the emo hair.
02:53:45.580
I feel like the swoop was maybe a little dated by this point.
02:54:33.540
If I'm overweight at 20 with acne, orly skin, and braces from jagged teeth.
02:54:38.800
And when I turn 30, after busting my ass in the gym, use face cream every day, and my teeth
02:54:59.740
Why can't y'all just, like, take the L on the whole, like, aging thing?
02:55:06.540
Like, just be like, yeah, I'm going to be less attractive when I'm older.
02:55:14.820
I mean, but he said he was, like, didn't brush his teeth when he was 18.
02:55:20.100
I mean, yeah, but this is why life experience is important, because you learn all this stuff.
02:55:30.120
Well, let me ask you guys this, perhaps a different way.
02:55:33.240
From 18 to 28, and then to 38, 48, going on, as you age, do you tend to lose or accumulate
02:55:42.760
So, signs of aging, wrinkles, sunspots, liver spots, age spots, sagging skin, rougher skin.
02:55:59.860
Do these things tend to make you more or less attractive?
02:56:11.640
But those are not the only points in being attractive.
02:56:31.440
I said those are not the only points in being attractive.
02:56:47.520
Do the things that Brian mentioned make you less attractive or more attractive?
02:56:51.800
They potentially can make somebody less attractive.
02:57:03.180
Everything that he mentioned, the sun spots, the saggy breasts, the wrinkles, those things,
02:57:07.800
do they make you less attractive or more attractive if you acquire those as you age?
02:57:29.120
I go to sleep with wrinkle patches every night.
02:57:38.200
And just anti-aging creams, wrinkle serums, all of those things, if women could be as attractive
02:57:43.940
Yes, but this is why we have all of this, because we want to look more attractive when
02:57:55.780
I already said, this is how aging works, but, like, with all the things that you have.
02:58:02.660
I think our generation, it's slowed down a lot.
02:58:05.080
We don't age as quickly as, like, our parents' ages.
02:58:07.080
Because we've kind of put a stop to it with science.
02:58:13.440
More or less attractive with the wrinkles, sunspots.
02:58:27.000
Do you guys prefer men with a full head of hair or men who are balding?
02:58:40.380
You can still be attracted to a guy who's balding.
02:58:42.920
And for me, it's more attractive one guy have 50 years old than my age.
02:59:14.560
Here, let's go to Twitch really quick, then I'll get into the next notes.
02:59:23.160
And there's Twitch again with the two gifted subs.
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Twitch itself in the gifted sub category for the 200th episode.
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If you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to your Twitch.
03:00:00.520
It's a quick, free, easy way to support the show every single month.
03:00:03.000
And also, if you can mods, maybe spam in the YouTube chat.
03:00:06.040
Guys, we're trying to hit 10 or not, excuse me, not 10K, 100K followers on Twitch before
03:00:15.740
If you have a Prime sub available, drop us a Prime.
03:00:25.440
And then also, if we can pull up the Discord, discord.gg slash whatever, if you guys can
03:00:38.420
We post the BTS, a bunch of crazy things behind the scenes, hate mail, a lot of cool stuff.
03:00:48.640
Dylan Joe, Andrew Bride, Jake, last week I made a comment about building, oh, my bad,
03:01:01.000
Not only is her travel experience not good, a woman who travels is a big red flag avoid,
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Dylan Joe, Andrew Bride, Jake, last week, let me, sorry, get that pulled up.
03:01:17.580
He made a comment about building a cabin in the woods.
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Studying your debates inspire me to become a better man, not to sound like a softy no
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Yeah, I appreciate it, and thanks for the kind words.
03:01:38.720
So, let's see, what was the other thing we had?
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There were some other things we had to pull up.
03:01:47.500
Can you pull that up really quick, and then we'll get into the, finish up the pre-show
03:02:30.640
Yo, Twitch gifted the other two subs, by the way.
03:02:36.740
For the record, my last comment was not towards one person.
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All women as they age should find a good plastic surgeon to maintain her desired loom.
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Or perhaps intense cryotherapy or gym memberships.
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All women as they age should find a good plastic surgeon?
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No offense to the women here who have plastic surgery.
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I can prove to everyone watching this stream that God is black.
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Everyone calls him father, but no one has ever seen him.
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It's just a little, I don't know, thing that I say after I witness something dramatic.
03:04:07.920
You said, you make it clear to the men that they are part of your harem, not me of theirs.
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And if they try to do that, I ask for something in return.
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And you say, oh, you think you can get these things and you get old and la, la, la, la, la.
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So, the asking for something in return, we talked about that.
03:05:28.040
But I'm asking about the part where you say, I make it clear to them that they are part of my harem, not me of theirs.
03:05:44.800
I make it clear to them that they are part of my harem, not me of theirs.
03:06:02.560
Okay, I always be clear with the guys that this is the things I want in the beginning.
03:06:12.020
I be very clear with the guys in the beginning, the things I want for, have a relationship.
03:06:21.240
I don't like just date one play or just have sex.
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But maybe even if it's the first date, I tell them.
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Now, just, I'm single, so I can, I can date a lot of men in the same time.
03:07:06.080
But I used to go dating with five guys in the same.
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But in the past, how, what was the biggest that your harem or roster was?
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What's the most amount of men that you've been sleeping with at the same time?
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He's asking about something, he's asking about something methodological.
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He's asking about the method you come up with to determine, you know, the variance here.
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So how many men are you sleeping with at the same time?
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I need no more or maybe I'm, you know, I need, I have my list of things I like in the guys.
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And it's like, need, need, need, they need to do competition.
03:08:45.100
So if they're a part of your, so if they're a part of your harem, are they allowed to go fuck other women?
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I don't, I don't, I don't put names on the, on the things.
03:09:07.500
If they can fuck other women, then they're not a part of your harem.
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But maybe tomorrow I decide to have sex with the three.
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We just trying to figure out what this harem is and what the rules of these men are.
03:09:52.600
You've never dated more than one guy at the same time?
03:10:04.860
Maybe it happened that I was, like, finishing dating someone and started something new,
03:10:13.520
So, have you ever been hooking up with, uh, more than one guy at the same time?
03:10:19.300
I mean, hooking up means I slept with someone one time, so what does it mean, like, more
03:10:27.380
It's possible that I met someone and then, like, met someone else next week when I didn't
03:10:34.620
In a 24-hour period, have you ever had sex with two men?
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Getting into the rest of the notes here, we got Juliette from Germany.
03:11:24.160
Um, do you, uh, do you sleep with other men who are not your husband?
03:11:39.140
So, is it for your OnlyFans that you sleep with them?
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I'm not, like, allowed to fuck around, and he isn't either.
03:12:01.920
My job is to be a content creator, to be, like, to create content and this kind of stuff.
03:12:11.340
And he accepts me sleeping in front of a camera with professional content creators.
03:12:31.320
Doesn't that imply that he would be watching, too?
03:12:40.480
In front of a camera for a video that I can sell.
03:12:48.000
You're not involved in, like, the traditional American porn industry, right?
03:12:52.040
What about the traditional porn industry in Germany?
03:13:01.860
So you will do collaborations on your OnlyFans.
03:13:13.520
Well, it's like, wait, so it's like a maelstrom of cuckoldry?
03:13:25.960
You started your OnlyFans before you met your husband?
03:13:32.620
And, but had you done scenes with men prior to meeting your husband on OnlyFans?
03:13:44.820
And you started your OnlyFans a little before...
03:13:55.540
How soon into dating your husband, or, well, dating your boyfriend at the time, were you
03:14:04.360
So I, I got, I made OnlyFans, I met my husband, and then, like, I think a year later, my husband
03:14:14.280
and I decided, I asked my husband to shoot content with me, to make a video with me, because
03:14:22.880
I, like, heard from friends that I can sell the video as well, I had fans who were asking
03:14:31.900
So, my husband agreed to that, and we shooted content together, like, I know, 10 videos at
03:14:39.720
this time, and, um, now, I think, um, I started doing collaborations with other persons, I don't
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want to lie, it's in, like, six months ago, maybe, I, like, we talked about it.
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We had a, um, conversation about it, and he's not okay with me fucking around, like, just
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It's only for work, and it's, we have, who, who brought up that conversation, him or you?
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Um, nobody, like, not he and not I, we just saw, we, so, we just saw that I sell my BG
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stuff better than, like, my Gigi stuff, or all my, my solo videos.
03:15:32.920
So, um, I, I decided to do Gigi content, and, um, like, yeah, like, I, I decided to do Gigi
03:15:42.440
content, and I did sell it well, like, my solo videos, but I sold my BG videos better, but
03:15:50.320
from the Gigi stuff, I got more, like, like, follower that maybe not, um, like, paid fans
03:15:58.500
who didn't, um, pay for the videos, but I got more follower from the Gigi stuff, so we
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just talked about what other options do I have with my job, with my career, and we just
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decided, hey, maybe it's a good step to do some collaborations.
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Okay, it was not, I don't think it was a we, it was you wanting to fuck other men, I'll
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grant that it's for your work, and for on camera, most men are not gonna, like, insert,
03:16:27.640
yeah, I, I kind of want you to fuck other men on camera, I mean, that's not men, that's
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not the man, unless he's a cuck, which he kind of is.
03:16:36.980
You haven't explained to me what a cuck is, I asked you for, like, the same time.
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I'll find the definition, just so we're 100% on the, uh, same page.
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Typically, though, it's a man who derives pleasure or wants his woman to fuck another
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I, I mean, I don't even have the pleasure to fuck other guys.
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But maybe the husband, like, I mean, it's his watch.
03:17:08.140
It's watch, no, he, she, I mean, it's his money, too, if we see an opportunity to get
03:17:17.780
You could not pay me enough money to let another man fuck a girl I'm seeing.
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Yeah, I'm not married to you, I don't, I haven't asked you for that.
03:17:29.100
Right, but, like, most men are gonna have a serious issue letting their girlfriend or
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Does he, he has no problems with it whatsoever.
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Yeah, he doesn't, he doesn't have no issue with it.
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He doesn't care, yeah, but he doesn't enjoy it.
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If he was to say, if for some reason he woke up tomorrow and...
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If for some reason he woke up tomorrow and he decided he wanted you to stop.
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So why do it if you would stop if he was uncomfortable with it?
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But so somebody had to originate the conversation.
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It's literally impossible for a conversation to like mutually manifest itself like that.
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In this case, it would be, I want to fuck other men on camera for money.
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And it was like a long process when we both like saw, okay, we can sell this video.
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It was a process when I started to doing Gigi stuff.
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Nobody's, I didn't say, hey, I want to fuck all the guys on camera.
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The road to the cuckoldry was quite the process.
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I understand that, but what Brian's asking specifically is the very first time you were
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going to hump a dude on camera for money, who approached who with that idea?
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So the two of you together at the exact same time looked at each other and went, you should
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You and I should fuck a guy both at the same time.
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And you both just looked at each other with this eureka moment was like, you got to go
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We didn't have one conversation that I would remember.
03:20:18.300
So the very first conversation was which one of you approaching the other one with the
03:20:23.640
Okay, so the first time, so I, um, I was the one who wanted to do Gigi content and this
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was the first time when I, I asked him if he would be okay with, with like me, like.
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So when it was like the, the point of Gigi content, we talked about it, that it's like,
03:20:54.720
So this was a start and then we just like, right.
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There was one conversation about shooting with other people because I'm a mean girl at this
03:21:15.380
And then it was like at this time when he said, I don't care, like, I don't care if you have
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sex with other people in front of a camera, if this person are professional, if they have
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like, it's like not just someone who doesn't bring me any follower or something, if it's
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like professional and then it just went where it is now.
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Um, I mean, I, I would lie if I would say, Hey, there was a conversation and I asked him
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Well, hold on, but it doesn't just kind of fall into place.
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Like you have to find the guy who you're going to collaborate with.
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You have to agree on, here's the terms of the collaboration.
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Here are the ground rules for the sexual encounter.
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You're going to have to come over, like all these things have to be discussed and negotiated.
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So, did you clear, like, did you talk to your husband about that?
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I do only collaborations here in Los Angeles, in Los Angeles.
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And then the near, so I live with my husband in the near of San Francisco, but.
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Most of the color, like, um, professional content creator are in Los Angeles.
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Um, does your dad, um, your father, does he have a good relationship with your husband?
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Uh, your mom, does he have a good, does she have a good relationship?
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So, when your mom calls your, your husband, right, like, maybe you're not answering your
03:23:15.480
phone, and she's like, I'm just wondering where she is.
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Um, how many scenes, like, how many different men have you shot with?
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Has this, the four has been within the past five months?
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Two have been in the past five months, and two before.
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Like, oh, you just fucked a guy, we can't fuck for, like, 72 hours, or?
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I, there's, like, no way I would see him on the same day.
03:24:18.480
Well, maybe not the same day, but, like, you fuck on a Friday, you go back on a Saturday,
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like, does he, is he like, sorry, babe, I'm not gonna fuck you?
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He's excited to see me when I'm coming back from-
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You said he fucks you within the first 10 minutes?
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While you're, you literally have another dude's-
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When, like, after I came home, I just told you, he's home at the Bay Area.
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What's the whole way that I see him on the same day?
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It doesn't have to be the same day, but, like, 24 hours?
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Have you had sex with one of these men, for your thing, and then within a 24 hour period,
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It's like a two hour flight, one hour flight to-
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Yeah, you fuck a guy in the morning, you get home, you said within 10 minutes he wants
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This didn't happen before, but yeah, the next day, yes.
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So, like, you fuck a guy, 3 p.m., and then you fuck your husband in the morning.
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He's like, yes, baby, bring home another man's come for me to-
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Well, I mean, if he's blasting inside, it takes a couple days to clear- clear out.
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Except the amount of sperm from another man that's inside of you.
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Um, you would agree that BB, BB content, boy-boy content, that would be work, right?
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If a boy had sex with another boy on camera, would that be work?
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Yeah, I'm asking you, if a boy has sex with another boy, is that also work?
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So, if your husband went to his job and had sex with another man anally, would you have
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I'm asking if he did, if he did, would you have sex with him within 24 hours?
03:28:16.480
No, it is his job because he's done content with you and he makes money from it.
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He doesn't have any, like, any, like, social media account or porn account or something.
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If he did do it, if he did do that, would you have sex with him within 24 hours?
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If he were a content creator, a professional content creator-
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I would have sex with him immediately afterwards.
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I mean, I have sex with him after he was in the office.
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What have changed about him just because he, like, walked?
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You're literally carrying the DNA of another dude.
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I mean, I guess you could douche, but it's not good to douche as a woman.
03:30:18.480
Wait, would you- if your husband came to you and was like, hey babe, I want to become
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I mean, we would have an open conversation about it.
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I mean, it's- I got married to him and if I- as I said, if he would wake up and say,
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hey babe, I'm not comfortable with your job anymore.
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Can you please do like only solo content or something?
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I would have an open conversation with him and I would ask what have changed and what happened.
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Wait, that's- okay, that's another question though.
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Yeah, wants to be a content creator, I would have an open conversation with him.
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Why- why would you need to have a conversation?
03:31:14.480
Um, because I have a marriage where we always have open conversations.
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Okay, so you'd be fine- then you'd be fine with it.
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I would be fine after we had the conversation, yes.
03:31:30.480
I mean, hi babe, I want to start shooting scenes with women and men.
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Yeah, I would ask how did he come to this point.
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Um, should I give him like sort of an effet sort of voice?
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I would love to start doing a little bit of porn.
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And I want- I wanna make a little money for us.
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I want to start fucking some other women on camera so that we can have a better life.
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And I want to have sex with women and men on camera.
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My dude, if you're watching this shit right now-
03:33:37.480
Yeah, but I mean like that, just in German, right?
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I think this is the point of this podcast, isn't it?
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Like, the husband, he's fine with you sleeping with other men.
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In front of a camera, and we don't talk about any man.
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Dude, I- even if- I mean, I'm almost trying to put myself in that position.
03:34:30.480
I don't think I could kiss my girl for like at least three months.
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I couldn't even be in that situation, but I wouldn't even want to kiss her for three months.
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Do you think every girl you've slept with has waited three months before you?
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You can- just because you trick somebody doesn't mean that that's the same as foreknowledge.
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Like, if you have the foreknowledge and you would never do that, yeah, I'm sure that you could be tricked.
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I mean, you could have a wife at home who could trick you and you wouldn't know, right?
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You could have a wife at home who could go out and do something like that and you would not know that and you were tricked.
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Like, that's a totally different thing than foreknowledge.
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Okay, so you say your wife can do whatever she wants, just don't tell you about it?
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Well, what you're doing is you're using what's called female processing, where what you do instead of addressing what I said, you address what you wish I had said, and then you address that instead of what I said.
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But anyway, so back to this before I was so rudely interrupted by the foul line over here.
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I would like to just point out that Brian is right, right?
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There's a distinction here between foreknowledge and somebody who tricks you.
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Look, my view is the longer it's been, the better.
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Like, there should be fucking cobwebs in the pussy.
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But that's where you're going to get the cobwebs.
03:36:19.480
A little older, but she hasn't fucked in three years versus like 20-year-old, but she's fucking every day.
03:36:30.480
They'll talk themselves in circles if you give it enough time.
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Anyways, I think even before she met me, it should be on the spiritual realm, like in
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the ether, that she's like, okay, Brian's coming.
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But she doesn't even know my name, but it needs to be in her head.
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Because that brilliant female intuition needs to know when we're coming.
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She needs to like be committed to me before she even, I've even come on the radar, son.
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Like a year ago, she needs to be like, he's fucking coming.
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I mean, is that the psychic stuff we didn't believe in?
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We got a couple chats I'm going to read really quick.
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Dylan Joe, or Anissa, we need your reading prowess.
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I was in a two and a half year relationship with a Belaysian girl who insisted that I go
03:37:59.480
If your fam is better at hosting holidays, put your food down or throw her a bone.
03:38:09.480
What side of the family, what side of the family was it?
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Oh, I was just going to say, yeah, I wouldn't throw the bone, right?
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Like if the other side of the family function sucks, just don't go to it.
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He was, he was, he was asking if you're in a situation where you can go to her family
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But she just wants to go even though they suck.
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Should you put your foot down and say, no, I'm not going?
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Panel, with about 50% of straight couples and about 70% of lesbian couples experiencing
03:39:07.480
divorce, does this suggest that women may contribute more to relationship instability?
03:39:17.480
So basically what they found is, is that when it comes to gay men marrying, the divorce
03:39:26.480
And straight couples, the divorce rate is lower than lesbian couples.
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So you have male-male relationships, divorce rate the lowest.
03:39:35.480
You have male-female relationships, divorce rate higher.
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And then you have female-female marriages, divorce rate the highest.
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Do you think everything is to be blamed on women?
03:39:57.480
So I don't think it's necessarily putting the blame on women.
03:40:04.480
I think there's a lot more complexities and emotions that are involved within it as
03:40:09.480
Possibly like even lack of communication or too afraid to be communicate.
03:40:20.480
And short answer, I don't think it's to blame on women.
03:40:23.480
I think there's a bunch of other factors that need to be, that need to be looked at and
03:40:36.480
Most men I know that are in like bad relationships tend to like not leave.
03:40:43.480
Like they stick it out or kind of wait for the other person to go.
03:40:47.480
So at least in my experience or people I've met.
03:40:51.480
So I could see where like you got two guys in a relationship and neither one are going
03:40:57.480
Um, yeah, I mean, I try to be as objective as possible, but considering the fact that
03:41:04.480
women have more unrealistic expectations when it comes to relationships and love and women
03:41:10.480
have a higher baseline level of stress, you know, when you think about what contributes
03:41:17.480
to them behaving in certain ways or wanting out of relationships, then yeah, because women
03:41:27.480
To the German girl, would you be okay with your husband sleeping with his female boss if
03:41:32.480
it guaranteed a big promotion and salary increase?
03:41:36.480
Um, so my husband's work is, as I said, like IT, so he should stay with that.
03:41:59.480
So it's not his job to having sex with someone.
03:42:05.480
But to the chatter's question, you have sex on camera for money, correct?
03:42:12.480
So what would be the objection, what would be the objection if he had sex for more money?
03:42:23.480
What would, what would, what would you, what would you object to or be upset about if
03:42:35.480
Like, it, like, it's something completely different.
03:42:40.480
So what if his boss changed the job criteria to say, okay, now you can keep your job.
03:42:46.480
Would, I mean, and then he said, okay, I want to have sex with her to keep the job.
03:42:52.480
I would have an open conversation with him about that.
03:42:59.480
It's all the time, but I can save it out and get the point.
03:43:03.480
Well, to, to that former super chat, Brian, that came in, you guys were asking about this.
03:43:09.480
You're talking about female divorce rates and this type of thing.
03:43:28.480
Andrew, just before I have you come in, Q, I just want Q to finish his.
03:43:34.480
I was saying that, um, in most instances, while I can attribute some reasons to men doing
03:43:41.480
things such as, um, to who was it that their husband was, uh, you got a divorce because
03:43:49.480
I can, some men do things like that, but overall I would have to say that it's typically predicated
03:43:53.480
on a woman's emotions because women have a million turn offs.
03:43:57.480
Women believe they want something in a relationship.
03:44:00.480
The reality of relationships happen and then they say, oh, I don't want this anymore.
03:44:06.480
They get into relationships, marriages, high on Disney fairy tales and fantasies, ideas
03:44:12.480
And then when conflict starts to arise or they start to realize that they actually have to
03:44:15.480
put in work and effort and those emotions die down, then they want to get a divorce or
03:44:20.480
So typically I will say it's predicated on the woman's emotions.
03:44:26.480
Men mostly, uh, like I always tried to communicate and try and figure out the problem and the
03:44:32.480
And I always get pushed to the back burner and then get left.
03:44:36.480
The, well, I, I would have to disagree with Q here a bit, uh, respect the disagreement that
03:44:43.480
I have here as I kind of dove into this data, I'm trying to find the strongest correlate
03:44:52.480
It is true that women do initiate, uh, most divorces across all sectors.
03:44:58.480
But I wondered, is there anything else here, right?
03:45:02.480
Well, it turns out that there is the, the number one thing that I found digging through
03:45:07.480
this and my wife found digging through this, the number one correlate of if a woman is going
03:45:11.480
to get a divorce from a man is if she hangs out with divorced female friends.
03:45:15.480
Interestingly enough, when men hang out with divorced male friends, the, the male friend
03:45:23.480
tells them that the divorce is fucking horrible.
03:45:33.480
When women hang out with their divorced friends though, they tell them how great it is, how
03:45:37.480
freeing it is and how they should join the club.
03:45:40.480
And it's in, interestingly enough, the one, the, one of the most common things which comes
03:45:45.480
up, and this is in lesbian relationships, which would explain this as well, is that when
03:45:49.480
you're around, when women are around divorced women, that is when they tend to get divorced
03:45:54.480
the most is if their friends have been divorced.
03:46:05.480
I mean, women are easily influenced by other women and they tend to conform to what other
03:46:10.480
But do you think that, do you think that doesn't land under the umbrella of like emotion?
03:46:16.480
Well, I mean, I guess it's under the purview, but the, what if, so what if we reversed
03:46:23.480
What if we said, okay, these women are hanging out with all of their friends and their friends
03:46:28.480
are saying, I'm happily married and this is great.
03:46:30.480
And they're getting positive reinforcement from society and their friends who are around
03:46:37.480
Even if we were to kind of grant the emotion thing, which I'm not disputing, wouldn't that
03:46:42.480
then follow that those women would likely like they did in earlier years, not be getting
03:46:58.480
I can do whatever I want, wake up when I want, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
03:47:02.480
Well, most men that get divorced, they get married again because they need somebody to
03:47:08.480
Most women that get divorced stay alone because they're like, I don't need to be somebody's
03:47:13.480
I'm going to just chill by myself and it's way better alone.
03:47:16.480
Well, there's a lot of kind of presuppositions which are in here, especially with need.
03:47:22.480
I think that men never usually want to get divorced in the first place.
03:47:27.480
Because you guys get so much more out of a marriage.
03:47:32.480
I think it's because men generally are far more moral and they adhere to a much stricter
03:47:40.480
And when they take this kind of vow with women, they tend to take it seriously.
03:47:44.480
They want to stick together with this woman forever and ever and ever and ever.
03:47:48.480
Whereas, well, I mean, you can shake your head, but you have nothing to back any of the things
03:48:03.480
A lot of the time, women are willing to go and be a single mother because they're a single
03:48:12.480
So they don't want to take care of an additional person.
03:48:14.480
They want to just take care of themselves and their children.
03:48:16.480
They don't want to have to also take care of a full grown man.
03:48:19.480
So the husband's out taking care of everybody too.
03:48:23.480
Men are out working their asses off for their women.
03:48:37.480
I don't think that you're like ridiculously old.
03:48:39.480
Do you think I was born back when we smoked the pipes and smacked the bitches?
03:49:03.480
I just don't, I just don't die the gray out of my hair like all of you do.
03:49:06.480
The only difference is I don't dye the gray out of my hair like all of you do.
03:49:14.480
And if I did, I'd look younger than every one of you.
03:49:22.480
You have no gray in your hair and you don't dye any of the gray out.
03:49:27.480
I will say yes, I do things to help myself look younger.
03:49:32.480
It's not my fault that you don't want to take those steps as well.
03:49:35.480
You could have helped yourself out and I wouldn't have guessed you were older.
03:49:38.480
It looks prestigious, but if you had no makeup on and all your grays were there, guarantee
03:49:48.480
But this aside, all this aside, while you're trying to dunk on me as though you're not wearing
03:49:53.480
a complete facade that I can't see right through, can we move into the actual data portion of
03:50:00.480
this argument and you can explain to me how it is that men aren't out there busting their
03:50:04.480
asses in the most treacherous jobs on planet Earth while women are sitting pampered in
03:50:23.480
What types of jobs do you think women are doing?
03:50:25.480
Do you think that they are high on the threshold of danger or very low on the threshold?
03:50:30.480
I think there's scientists women, there's women going to space, there's women that are
03:50:34.480
detectives, like there's women doing everything.
03:50:42.480
So just listen to the question that's being asked before you answer.
03:50:46.480
You're going to debate it and just say I'm wrong.
03:50:50.480
And then if you answer it in a way that I agree with, I'll never debate it, right?
03:50:54.480
I'll never debate it if I agree with the answer.
03:50:57.480
So the question is, do you think that women's jobs are high on the danger threshold scale
03:51:05.480
Who chose to have a dangerous job and allocate the jobs to whoever?
03:51:10.480
I feel like you're allergic to answering a question.
03:51:13.480
No, because I think that there's women that are doing dangerous jobs now.
03:51:19.480
Perhaps we should get you some medication to fix the lack of being able to answer a simple question.
03:51:24.480
So I'm going to ask it a third time, perhaps without this time asking me a question instead of answering
03:51:37.480
Do you think women's jobs are higher or lower on the danger threshold scale?
03:52:11.480
So, Andrew, let's go back to our little exchange really quickly.
03:52:27.480
You said you've seen that the strongest correlate was, or I'm guessing your source said that the strongest correlate was women being influenced by their friends or having divorced female friends.
03:52:39.480
Yeah, well, this is a, I don't know if it's the strongest, but it's a really strong correlate that we found was if you're in a group with divorced women and you're not divorced, your likelihood of getting divorced increases exponentially compared to if you're around women who aren't.
03:52:52.480
The way that you could make that comparison is between religious communities and non-religious communities.
03:52:57.480
The more religious the community, the less they tend to divorce, right?
03:53:01.480
But there's other correlates there to look at, too, which is the religiosity, for instance.
03:53:06.480
It is, but it is something that should be looked at, I think.
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But in terms of where I disagree with that is looking more at the predictor of divorce.
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And, of course, this is a much more complex web because then I'm talking about on an individual basis and what typically happens in marriage dissolution is emotional dissatisfaction.
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Or they say they've grown apart and typically that results from conflict.
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The question is, and I agree with all of what you just said, but the question then becomes, why are they saying that?
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Is it coming from them or is it coming from something which is external?
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So if it's coming from this external idea because you're hanging out with a bunch of divorced henpecking bitches, right, who are just like miserable and counting all their cats and they want misery loves company, as they say.
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Could that be a good, strong indicator of why you see more women who are in the groups of divorced women getting divorced at a much higher rate, right, than when they're in groups of non-divorced women?
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You had a chance to argue, though, and all you did was go.
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So it's like, I don't know what to do about that.
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You didn't want to listen to my points or anything that I was saying.
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You have to answer questions if you want me to answer your questions.
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Your question about, do you think women's jobs are this or this?
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You know what, if you asked me an irrelevant question, I would answer it quickly, and then I would ask you the question that I wanted.
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Or I would dispute whatever you thought was irrelevant.
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That's the easiest thing to do, is to just dispute whatever's irrelevant.
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No, I was starting to answer you, and then you came for my looks.
03:54:54.480
No, you started talking shit, so I started talking shit back.
03:54:56.480
I genuinely did not realize that you were only 40.
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But since women are so emotional, you really handled that very well.
03:55:06.480
When I wrote your age down at 34, I was also stunned.
03:55:17.480
But I've seen so many women, I think, inside of the, like I always tell my audience, the women look way worse in person than they do on camera.
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I think that they all, like, do their makeup specifically knowing they're going on camera.
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They always look worse, by the way, in person than they do on camera.
03:55:31.480
But more importantly than that, is I see the amount of shit they do to themselves, right?
03:55:39.480
This is just how I look all the time, day and night, 24 hours a day.
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Not a one of you look like that 24 hours a day, not even close, right?
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But I'd like to see no makeup with all the grays.
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And then I think people would judge it differently.
03:56:06.480
Well, I know when I got divorced, my husband assumed that I had divorced women in my ear convincing me to get divorced.
03:56:16.480
I can tell you it very much had nothing to do with that, like, from my own experience.
03:56:20.480
But I think in both situations, even with the men, when you've got your friends and you're convincing you to stay married, like, you still have your peer group persuading you.
03:56:28.480
I think it's just about evaluating your situation against the potential of something you don't have.
03:56:36.480
But I guess my only dispute here would be, what if your peer group is more likely, as men, to tell you divorce fucking sucks?
03:56:53.480
And so you hear more of those stories as a man.
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Whereas for women, that deterrent doesn't seem to be there.
03:57:05.480
I think, in general, the system's not very fair to men.
03:57:07.480
There's very few men that I know that have custody of their children.
03:57:16.480
I mean, you're right that everyone's going to be influenced by their peer group.
03:57:20.480
I'm just kind of asking, what if your peer group in general is having really bad experiences
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with X thing, and then the other group, which participates in the same thing, doesn't have
03:57:32.480
But how much of it is gender, and how much of it is just the system, like getting divorced?
03:57:37.480
A lot of states are more favorable towards women in divorce.
03:57:41.480
Like, I don't know that it's necessarily the woman's fault that the judge-
03:57:47.480
Like, I'm not saying, because you're a woman, only because of the fact that you have a vagina,
03:57:57.480
I've worked construction for six years, and there has never been a woman working on the
03:58:03.480
If I'm working 60 hours a week, and you're not working, get in the kitchen, then clean
03:58:14.480
Speaking of which, we have lowered it to, it's all good.
03:58:33.480
I don't think that because you're born with a vagina, that means you're like,
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predisposed to want to get divorced more than men.
03:58:42.480
So I'm looking at the factors which are external to that, right?
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Okay, underscore it, underscore worker donated $69.
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He's already getting fixed in broken code in prod.
03:58:58.480
And his wife is getting fucked by chance on camera.
03:59:10.480
So just very briefly, I was just saying that I don't think because you're born with a vagina,
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or born with a penis, that therefore you're more likely to get divorced or not divorced.
03:59:22.480
So I'm just looking at how different peer groups behave in society.
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And so women, obviously, they're going to probably have a lot more female friends than male friends.
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And male, it seems to be the same when they're reporting this, right?
03:59:35.480
Though women do seem to have more male friends than men have female friends.
03:59:41.480
I kind of understand the reasoning for that as well.
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But when it comes to women in their peer groups, they seem to, if they're around a lot of divorced women,
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they seem to be far more likely to get divorced.
03:59:53.480
Men around a lot of divorced men don't seem like they're more likely to get divorced.
03:59:57.480
And so I just wonder if that is not because they're hearing the horror stories from men,
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whereas on the woman's side, they're not hearing it.
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But he's looking at the external sources, and I'm just more so looking at the internal source,
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whereas the actual conflict in the relationship that leads a woman to want to listen to her peer group
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Because at the end of the day, if she's considering divorce,
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then that means some shit is going sour in her marriage and her friends are there to tell her,
04:00:41.480
You know, I'm just looking more internally at what the actual conflict within the relationship
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that leads her to her peers and her friend group saying,
04:00:49.480
yeah, definitely get the divorce as that extra affirmation for her to follow through.
04:00:54.480
Yeah, but is the conflict coming from nature and nurture?
04:01:03.480
Well, I think nurture is more of a reflection of nature because I don't think we had a capacity
04:01:11.480
Like I said, like a woman's base levels of stress response is different than a man's,
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whereas they get more stressed out with conflict and they ruminate longer on things.
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If you and your wife have an argument, you know, she may ruminate on it more or it may affect her.
04:01:26.480
This is really weird, dude, because divorce is conflict and they initiate more of the divorces.
04:01:33.480
That is conflict initiation in and of itself, which would seem to go against your point of nature, right?
04:01:38.480
No, not necessarily, because in terms of nature, I'm more so speaking to the way our brains respond to conflict.
04:01:47.480
And that's why I said the base levels of stress being the predictor more.
04:01:53.480
So if a woman is going to want a divorce, because if she feels that the relationship is no longer beneficial to her,
04:01:59.480
it doesn't suit her emotional needs or the guy gets on her nerves or she feel that they've grown apart.
04:02:04.480
Then those are all results of her brain being stressed out.
04:02:09.480
I'm just saying, why couldn't the reasons for that be based around the peer group and the social pressures,
04:02:16.480
which women are more susceptible to than men anyway, rather than something which is, you know, which is like intuitive,
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rather than them go, oh, I came to this on my own.
04:02:26.480
Why couldn't it be external social factors like almost every other behavior we see?
04:02:30.480
Well, it could, but ultimately, ultimately, I think it boils down to she already has to have a sense of wanting out of the relationship to get that extra affirmation for her friends to even say that.
04:02:43.480
I mean, if a woman is happy in her relationship, no matter how much she's around her peers, they're not going to convince her to get a divorce.
04:02:52.480
And let me give you my kind of counter to this.
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They had an idea where they wanted to get 50% of the population who didn't smoke to smoke, and that was women.
04:03:10.480
And so they ran a great campaign to get women to smoke.
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Now, most women, I would say, were pretty secure in the fact that they didn't smoke.
04:03:22.480
But this campaign, this kind of social campaign which happened, it got an awful lot of them to smoke.
04:03:29.480
I mean, at an incredible rate, just so you know.
04:03:33.480
And this type of propaganda seems to work fairly well on both sexes, by the way, not just on women.
04:03:38.480
They're susceptible to propaganda in a different way than men are, which is like social propaganda.
04:03:47.480
And so I just wonder, again, kind of going back to this, I'm not disputing that they could be unhappy.
04:03:53.480
I will dispute, though, that they could be in a happy relationship, and dear to peer group pressure wouldn't end that relationship.
04:04:02.480
Yeah, I mean, that's where we fundamentally disagree, because I just think the individual has more weight and drives her into the peer group, and they just reinforce it.
04:04:12.480
And then she's like, yeah, you know what, I'm going to follow through with it.
04:04:15.480
I think it starts more with the individual than the reverse.
04:04:18.480
But I definitely, I mean, I don't disagree with the fact that her friend's influence, I just think it starts with the woman herself and her relationship.
04:04:28.480
Considering DV rates are the highest among lesbians and lowest among gay men, it would point towards women being the bigger problem.
04:04:40.480
Um, we have two more coming in, then we have a few more reads.
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Sorry, guys, these are kind of trickling in here.
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I had to pause it to allow the conversation to go.
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But first I will fix your nose, and until I do, I will look at your face straight on.
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Brickson, punch the fake lawyer, fake accent, fake age, fake boobs.
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By the way, was that you during the live stream, the IRL stream yesterday?
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What the lady said about women after divorce choosing not to remarry is because, as most states, the alimony stops.
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I don't even agree with that statement, though.
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There's another coming in, just letting you know.
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Any chick who ever tells you that she needs to work
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on herself, believe her and let her go work on herself
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Keep an eye out for Ozzy Osbourne and Hart glasses.
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It's not a profession, career, job, or content.
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It's all for money, won't last, morally bankrupt.
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I am working on using my voice more and better.
04:07:38.320
And I also don't actually mean any disrespect to Andrew.
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I think he has a lot of things that I agree with
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If they don't talk smack, I don't talk simply by simple.
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And then Forrest Gump, I don't know if you're still watching.
04:08:31.560
You sent one in a little bit ago about the Passport Bros thing.
04:08:38.500
Can we change the subject and talk about Passport Bros?
04:08:41.020
So I suppose I'll just ask the question, what do you guys think about Passport Bros?
04:08:46.600
So Passport Bros are basically men who are dissatisfied with...
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Typically Western men who are dissatisfied with Western women, and they seek to find a girlfriend,
04:08:57.620
partner, wife in a different country, typically Latin America or Asia.
04:09:07.720
Like they're buying women to marry them, or...?
04:09:12.620
Either they don't have success with women locally, typically in the West, or they do have
04:09:18.120
success, but they don't like the traits and characteristics of the typical modern Western
04:09:24.320
woman, and so they'd rather find a perhaps more traditional or submissive woman who might
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be more readily found in Latin America, Eastern Europe, or Asia.
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As long as they found someone to be happy with and stay with them, I don't know.
04:09:46.920
I don't believe in the distance relationship, so no.
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I believe if they enjoy the culture, then by all means they should follow what makes them
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happy and explore and discover what's the best, you know, partnership for them.
04:10:13.220
I mean, it's agency over their own dating decisions.
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If they feel that they can find what they're looking for elsewhere, I don't blame them if
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So, if they can find something that they're more compatible with overseas, then go overseas.
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04:13:28.960
So, going to Juliette, Juliette, you said, we kind of already delved a bit into it, but here's in your own words.
04:13:37.320
I thought it could be an interesting topic that I've married a fan of mine.
04:13:40.420
He supported me as an OnlyFans girl from the beginning and texted me that he's coming for a work trip to Germany.
04:13:46.500
And because I liked him and we talked for months on OnlyFans, I decided to meet him for dinner and stayed with him spontaneous for four days.
04:13:55.000
He still supported me for months later before we started having a long-distance relationship and got married two years later.
04:14:19.460
Because, I mean, you came with your friend who's an absolute liar, so, like, kind of guilt by association a little bit.
04:14:25.320
Like, you guys probably did the car drive and you're like, all right, we're going to lie about this shit.
04:14:30.060
No, I mean, I had the idea obviously before, but no, it's not a lie.
04:14:33.760
It's like, anyways, you also said, I would like to talk about the line between the girls' site to be professional and just sell content and make money and also the part where your fans are getting to be your friends and even more.
04:14:45.280
I can imagine lots of guys would like to hear that for their own imagination and other girls who are struggling with this thin line, too, talk about how it's possible to build trust and love to a fan.
04:15:08.100
I think that trying to give other women confidence into going into the type of work that you do, no disrespect, I personally don't agree with.
04:15:22.320
If it was, like, their last resort, then maybe, but there's just so many other ways that a woman can make money without having to feel like that's a pathway that they need to go to.
04:15:33.660
If they enjoy it and that's what they want to do, then by all means, but if they're young and impressionable, I think it would be a better idea to kind of, like, show them another avenue before going into sex work.
04:15:49.800
Just because you said you wanted to be here to, like, encourage girls to do stuff like that.
04:16:05.620
I'm just going to move on because I don't think it's a particularly interesting conversation, but, you know, for a 24-year-old, you're a little on the tired side there.
04:16:18.240
No, I need to go home because I have a dog, and I'm worried.
04:16:49.240
An administration of business, and I do OnlyFans.
04:16:55.460
I'm assistant of producer of music, have a big company of music, yeah.
04:17:17.580
Okay, and then your thing, you said, I'm sure not everyone has the same opinion, because
04:17:24.840
lots of the girls have a different opinion about fans, or even have a texter on the platform
04:17:37.620
No, I mean, we talked a lot about me and my situation.
04:17:44.180
I mean, there are not many OnlyFans girls on this podcast today.
04:17:50.260
They, like, were episodes where there were more OnlyFans girls, and that was kind of expected
04:17:57.800
with my ideas, so I don't really think we can, like, discuss this on this episode, because
04:18:04.120
I don't have someone to, yeah, to have, like, made the same or different experience, because,
04:18:12.640
like, the girls didn't make the experience with fans, so this was what I thought we could
04:18:29.300
While I just opened it up, any dating-related topics anybody else would like to...
04:18:44.080
If this is my favorite show, is there something wrong with me?
04:18:54.380
You guys, you should probably see a medical doctor.
04:19:01.980
There is something wrong with it being your favorite show, and knowing that it's your favorite
04:19:21.980
Brixen, chair one to two slash looking downhole podcast.
04:19:48.660
I just thought maybe you're, like, autistic or something.
04:19:50.380
But, like, why were you looking down the entire fucking show?
04:19:58.280
I can listen better whenever I'm not, like, looking at...
04:20:00.440
Can you scoot into the table and scoot into the mic?
04:20:01.640
Sorry, I can listen better whenever I'm not, like, looking at everybody.
04:20:18.760
Because normally when people are looking down, they're either on drugs or...
04:20:29.040
There's been 200 people who've sat in that chair.
04:20:33.040
I guess everybody has their idiosyncrasies or whatever, but...
04:20:38.780
I mean, that's kind of why I asked if I could doodle.
04:21:03.820
And for, like, X amount of subs and whatnot that you get, you just automatically get X amount from Twitch.
04:21:11.600
Okay, so it's not even, like, an unpaid intern.
04:21:22.140
So, I think before the TTS has come in, do you...
04:21:24.400
I mean, do you have anything that you want to speak on?
04:21:26.380
I feel like you haven't talked too much, but...
04:21:29.100
Not that I can think of off the top of my head.
04:21:31.480
I'm just kind of waiting to see if there is a topic that I am interested in and looking for the right time to butt in.
04:21:38.340
But I also don't want to, like, be rude or interrupt anybody at all either.
04:21:47.920
I mean, you said you wanted to have a comment with Andrew.
04:21:55.720
Uh, I don't really know what specific, like, conversation he and I would have...
04:22:06.660
We will Wiener Schnitzel can man for Schwinden Lassen.
04:22:59.320
Wasn't it a marching song even before, you know?
04:23:12.940
Very nationalistic events of certain types, Brian.
04:23:35.460
Like, what's the difference between, like, American men and German guys, you know?
04:23:39.820
Mm, I mean, they are different German guys and they are different American guys.
04:23:45.180
I wouldn't say there's a difference between, like, American and German guys.
04:23:51.560
So, I think, like, like, like, German guys, but, like, not all guys, like, not all German
04:24:00.500
guys, they are maybe a little bit more, um, I don't know, like, strict, instead of ring
04:24:07.980
word, like, um, like, American guys, normally, like, what you expect from American, like, what
04:24:14.780
you saw on TV, uh, like, a little bit more chill, um, yeah, maybe, like, this is something
04:24:31.480
Oh, in your messages to us, you described yourself as traditional?
04:25:35.480
You should actually, there's a little something.
04:25:40.040
Our sailboat sank in a storm, and insurance was a scam.
04:25:44.640
Need 300 people yet to donate $1,000 to relaunch Seeking Asylum for free therapeutic sailing with autistic kids.
04:25:53.300
Isn't it, isn't it right here on her, Brian, around the chest region?
04:26:14.320
Because I'm single, and when I get married, I want traditional.
04:26:19.540
So you want a guy to like pay for dates and shit?
04:26:22.280
If the fans want to pay me for dates, I'm okay, eh?
04:26:38.300
Okay, well, maybe it's not lying, but it's pandering one way or the other.
04:26:54.100
When you're, whoever you date, whether it's a fan, whether it's a guy who's not your fan,
04:26:58.580
you want to get married, you want a traditional relationship with him.
04:27:08.180
But, so you're not a traditional woman, though.
04:27:13.920
The lack of modesty, being involved in sex work, that's not a traditional woman.
04:27:26.800
Now, my lifestyle, maybe no it's, for your eyes, no it's traditional, but for me it's
04:27:49.860
And I think that's a matter that I do only fans, so I do porn in my OF.
04:28:04.880
I don't feel I'm bad person because I do only fans.
04:28:18.240
Actually, next to my bed I have Christ and La Virgen Maria.
04:28:27.700
Brian, thank you for all that you do with your platform.
04:28:36.900
I love what you two are doing for the dating scene.
04:28:48.020
Hey, I really appreciate that, Frank and Becca.
04:28:52.460
So back to this, can I ask you a couple of questions?
04:28:58.060
For me, the lifestyle traditional is, like, have a husband, kids, get married, you know.
04:29:17.200
Can you tell me what the Catholic church's official doctrine on prostitution is?
04:29:25.980
Can you tell me what the Catholic church's official doctrine on prostitution is?
04:29:29.480
I think if you believe in Christ, that doesn't matter.
04:29:35.980
And, you know, not do bad things to the other persons, you know.
04:30:00.560
Why would Santeria be bad, but prostitution would be good?
04:30:33.360
Yeah, so what does the Catholic Church say about prostitution?
04:30:41.240
Yeah, what does the Catholic Church say about prostitution?
04:30:48.640
What does the Catholic Church say about prostitution?
04:30:59.460
Can you tell me that the Catholic Church is for prostitution?
04:31:02.360
Can you just go ahead and write in the mic and say the Catholic Church is for prostitution?
04:31:06.100
I don't know the words in English, but I think it's good if you don't do nothing bad to the other person, that's okay for God.
04:31:24.880
Is the Catholic Church, Catholic Church, for or against prostitution?
04:31:46.300
How can we better understand emotions' value to women?
04:31:49.180
Especially since tone and emotional expression are often overlooked by men.
04:32:12.020
Oh, you think the Catholic Church is for prostitution?
04:32:35.980
You were going to say that the Catholic priests do the bad things with the kids, weren't
04:32:42.740
I wanted to say that I think the guys did the worst things that we do, or we even could
04:32:55.480
Is the Catholic Church for or against prostitution?
04:33:01.660
I'm a good person, so I think I'm a good prostitute.
04:33:17.180
Would your priest tell you that you were a good prostitute?
04:33:30.420
Do you confess that you're a prostitute at confession?
04:33:48.640
Your trolling is so low tier, I can't even do it.
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It's like, we've had high tier trolls on the show, and you're just not it.
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I'm not a bad person just because I'm a prostitute.
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Andrew, the Catholic Church believes, Andrew, that I'm the best prostitute.
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I'm not a bad person because you say I'm a prostitute.
04:34:21.720
You know, it's also, Andrew, you know when it comes to, like, the girls who, like, and
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it's almost always the OF girls because they're trying to, like, oh, how can I try to, like,
04:34:35.720
They would be more successful if they just came on and had an authentic conversation.
04:35:05.420
I think we need to stop feeding the troll, but...
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Going around the table, do you consider yourself a feminist?
04:35:26.920
I wasn't before, but I think I am now because I do support the dogs and cats needing homes,
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and I think it's a lot of sheltered animals out here.
04:35:38.980
And who better to give these lovely creatures a home?
04:35:49.900
You know, feminists aren't exactly angels, but they can give these animals a home,
04:36:00.760
Q, how can we support you in this great and noble endeavor to make sure that every feminist
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in the United States has a kitty cat in the United States has a kitty cat in the United States.
04:36:11.500
Oh, now suddenly you understand everything I'm saying.
04:36:16.860
Now suddenly you understand the language is fine.
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I spelled your name wrong, so the TTS pronounces it correctly.
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Mexican lady just trolling and doesn't understand.
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She just was laughing her ass off hearing this exchange.
04:36:38.020
She understood the context, which is the most important.
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And to answer your question, Andrew, we can donate for all the cats and dogs.
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Any feminists out there who want to donate, just donate.
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I want to be on the board of Patriarchy for Pets.
04:37:25.080
Okay, going around the table, would you rather be stuck in the woods with a random man or a random bear?
04:37:42.840
It depends on how aggressive the bear and the man is.
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Wait, they've been extinct in Germany since the 1800s.
04:38:18.600
There was a bear named Bruno in 2006 that wandered 155 miles from northern Italy to Bavaria.
04:39:07.000
Wait, before we get back to the bear thing, do you think it's wrong for men to not want to date a trans woman?
04:39:18.820
Like, I don't want to date you because you're trans?
04:39:30.660
Is it straight for a man to date a trans woman?
04:40:00.460
I guess it would just kind of depend on, like, how far along their transition they are.
04:40:10.260
They have cut off the D, and now it is the fake P.
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If you went into the relationship not knowing that they were trans and they were fully transitioned...
04:40:42.520
I think it depends on if he had, like, especially searched for this kind of person, or did he
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just meet her randomly and fell in love and then just accepted what she or her have been
04:40:59.580
Well, yeah, he met her, and he fell in love with her, and then he fucked her.
04:41:09.880
I mean, we talked about, like, not having sex on your first date, so he had this change
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chance to meet her, fell in love, and then he just accepts.
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Men in their prime working years, ages 25 to 54, are dropping out of the workforce.
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Would you date a man who's not employed, basically?
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It depends on the person or the situation and how he, like, yeah, it depends.
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I don't, I don't really know, but I think yes, because, yeah.
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Like, this is actually a topic that I am kind of curious about.
04:42:36.140
I just watched the video, like, on the surgery, and it was, like, a little bit horrifying
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Like, what's the, like, what's the threshold delineation here?
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Like, is it just, is it just gay or is it not quite gay or?
04:43:14.100
Like, you're not fully straight, but you're not fully.
04:43:21.240
If the man was 40, a multimillionaire, and dropped out of the workforce, would you date
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Multimillionaire, 40, dropped out of the workforce.
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Sure, but I guess he's not going to make more money, basically, from work.
04:44:17.780
But transgender people have removed their penis.
04:44:24.040
So, now he removes the penis, takes a piece of it, grafts it to himself, and that's
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I think it's all like a little bit out of my realm, honestly.
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Andrew, what are your thoughts on the feminine penis?
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I just heard, like, there's such a thing as, like, a feminine penis or something.
04:45:06.200
Like, cis persons have the two genders, you know.
04:45:20.280
What is the value of caring about tone and emotions for both MW?
04:45:24.740
Without this understanding, one side ends the conversation.
04:45:31.200
I feel like if you're offended by someone's tone, you should ask for clarification on that.
04:45:37.920
I feel like being offended by someone's tone, I can, it's understandable why, but as somebody
04:45:43.520
who also has trouble trying to portray a certain type of tone, asking for clarification
04:45:54.740
is always the best, because a lot of the times I don't mean it that way.
04:46:03.840
If said 40-year-old multimillionaire dropped out of the workforce, earned a ridiculous amount
04:46:09.140
in interest every year, and was hilarious, would you date him?
04:46:27.780
It's like, it's like asking a woman, would you date a tall, handsome, attractive man?
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It's just like, 40-year-old man who's a multimillionaire?
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I wouldn't want with one of them being, like, with one of them.
04:47:07.160
But if I can choose to be alone, then I would choose to be alone in the woods.
04:47:32.260
But why is there an assumption that you would be...
04:47:37.420
Well, those would be, like, the scariest scenario with both of them.
04:47:41.100
Like, to me, those are the two scariest scenarios, and I'd rather be mauled to them.
04:47:43.960
Right, it could happen, but it could also not happen.
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Or I could just not be in the woods, so I'm going to do that.
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So what percentage of men do you think would grape you?
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I mean, it must be high if you'd rather pick a bear, right?
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I think 40% of men in the woods alone with me would try and do something inappropriate.
04:48:15.600
Well, so, I mean, like, you've got to be specific, though.
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Okay, what percentage would do something, try to do something inappropriate?
04:48:43.880
It's inappropriate, but it's not, like, it doesn't affect me physically, mentally, or, like, spiritually.
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Do you have male family members, brothers, cousins, father?
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So 40% of your male relatives would grape a woman?
04:49:14.400
But just to fraction it off, like, one in three.
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Like, one in three of the men you know, you think, would try to grape you if they could?
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Because I think that somewhere around 60% of women will make false grape accusations against men, if given the opportunity.
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So I'm not even really disputing what you're saying.
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Jackie O, 40-year-old, 6'2", multimillionaire, hilarious, great shape, handsome.
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Oh, I was just saying, I think 60% of women will make a false grape accusation towards a man if they think it's beneficial to them.
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So I completely understand where you're coming from.
04:50:32.020
I think there's a lot of really bad people out there.
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So I like to just stick by myself or, you know.
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I think 60% of women would do that to a man if they could get away with it.
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Like, if they could get me, if a woman, 60% of women could get me alone in a room, right, I think that they would make a false grape accusation.
04:51:33.980
Can 360 no-scope headshot MF-Sephar-Ref-Rong no-cap cheeto fingers?
04:51:42.660
Also, maybe eats food out of the Wendy's parking lot with a Magnum Dong.
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Stop trying to get these dates all the time, dude.
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You just make fun of the cheeto fingers and the fact that I'm good at video games.
04:52:04.020
About time I get a fucking lucky break in this fucking game, motherfuckers, and I clutch
04:52:24.960
Oh, would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods?
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It was the same bus that you took to elementary school.
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I'm a little offended that you would choose the bear.
04:53:58.520
Oh, but maybe we should do the compliment thing.
04:54:01.000
You know, at the end of the show, we all compliment.
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When they tell me when I hurt their feelings and I didn't mean to.
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In fact, the dude's also hitting it from behind, okay?
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Of you sucking dick, and you sold that photo for money, you're barred.
04:55:55.260
So, I acknowledge that even if a woman has been involved in a dozen gang bangs, and she
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does sex work, and she used to be a prostitute, and she's done all kinds of degenerate things,
04:56:08.980
There's still simps out there who are desperate for even a whiff of pussy, who will give you
04:56:15.920
Hey, don't call simps to my fans, or my followers.
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There are still men who will still do this shit.
04:56:26.340
They'll still treat you like a lady, but you aren't a lady.
04:56:43.920
But yes, my contents, it's maybe too explicit for being a lady.
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I'm just saying, you'll still probably get some simp provider, because that's what originally
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You said, I want a guy who, green flag, he's a provider.
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I don't think you deserve a provider, is the thing.
04:57:17.580
Wait, why would you working hard make you deserving of a provider?
04:57:24.640
I saw a censored, you put a fucking eggplant emoji over the phallus.
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Praise, oh my God, sorry, I was about to say some cancel bullshit.
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The traduction is señorita is lady in Spanish.
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That's like if I was like limp-wriffed and I was like, I'm the most masculine man.
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I think that's the most authentic I've seen you tonight.
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Get that fucking avocado, rod and avocado tattoo.
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Imagine, Q, you're fucking and you're like, why the fuck?
04:58:27.040
Why the fuck am I looking at a rotting fucking avocado?
04:58:30.500
If I wanted a fucking avocado, I'd fuck an avocado.
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Like what about building like Gundam wing models?
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What if he only cares about himself, but it's still caring?
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Sorry to pause it there temporarily to get through the convo, but thank you, man.
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A study that was squashed by a feminist governor in 1990.
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There was a 30-year case study on grape cases by special investigators.
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Turns out 67% of women lied on grape allegations and got away with it.
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Even though I was literally only saying that to demonstrate the absurdity of the opposite statement.
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If a majority of men would harm you, if they got the chance, it would be legal to do so.
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So, if 10 men came across, you three would try to help.
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It's like one-tenth of a man would do some shit, you know?
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Who is almost guaranteed to have genital herpes?
05:02:56.300
Would you rather have intercourse with a bear or with an OnlyFans girl who is almost guaranteed to have...
05:03:03.740
By the way, Jay Butler, can you DM me on Instagram, man?
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I've been trying to get in touch with you, man.
05:03:18.140
Would you rather have intercourse with a bear or with an OnlyFans girl who has guaranteed, almost guaranteed to have genital herpes?
05:03:43.040
Austin, can you play the Erica song really quick?
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So, would I rather be in the woods with a bear?
05:04:08.300
Would you rather hook up with a bear or a chick, OF chick who has the herb?
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You know, like how it started with the monkeys or whatever?
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For the panel, take a walk in the woods with a man or Netflix binge.
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I mean, I don't really like the woods, so I would do Netflix binge, I guess.
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Sorry, I didn't mean I re-triggered it a second time accidentally.
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Going around the table, do you think it's insecure for a guy to care about a woman's body count?
05:05:34.940
I don't think it's insecure for them to care, no.
05:05:56.640
No, I don't think them caring comes from insecurity.
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I mean, why would he care when it's not insecurity?
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But, okay, the number one reason we care is a phenomenon known as paternity uncertainty.
05:06:29.600
I could sleep with every woman at this table, and if I was to do it with multiple men, we wouldn't know who the father of our kids would be.
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That promotes jealousy, sexual competition, et cetera.
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Then we also have to think about what type of mental illnesses or anything, personality disorders, would lead you to even sleep around, and we would want to mitigate that risk.
05:06:53.080
Because if you sleep around, then there's a higher likelihood that you could potentially cheat on me.
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It would be a proxy for your loyalty towards me.
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It would be a proxy for your fidelity towards me.
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I don't think that's insecure because most men don't want to get cheated on.
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And if it's one thing that we can tell about a woman's past, it's how she moves sexually when it comes to other men.
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So if you move sexually in a way to where you just always sleep around or you sleep with multiple men at one time, then it's really, really difficult for me to consider you a worthy long-term mate
05:07:21.560
because I would just be concerned both intrinsically and externally about the fact that you would probably sleep around on me, you would cheat on me, or you would have a baby by somebody else on me.
05:07:37.340
So if you sleep around, then that indicates that you would probably be more inclined to sleep with a man or cheat on me.
05:07:44.240
Well, I mean, just to very quickly piggyback off of that because, Q, literally, you're right about everything you just said.
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But I would just add that paternity testing is a brand-new invention.
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And from the evolutionary perspective, if that is the case, why wouldn't men look for women who were devoted only to them to assure the paternity of their child who they're going to be spending their resources on?
05:08:16.180
Yep, a man doesn't want to invest resources in a child that's not potentially his, and if he can't guarantee a woman's paternity in some shape, form, or fashion, then he would potentially be raising a child that's not his, which is detrimental to his genetic legacy.
05:08:36.960
There are more reasons for that than just insecurity.
05:08:40.460
I still be in this, like, I think one reason for this can be insecurity, but I get you.
05:08:53.540
There are, like, more reasons to be, to care about the body count.
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And let's be honest, if you really know that women sleep around, women aren't making every man that they sleep with wrap it up, which means the likelihood of contracting an STI would probably be higher if you sleep with a promiscuous woman.
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So there's a disgust factor involved, sexual disgust.
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Yes, men typically aren't as powerful in sexual disgust as women.
05:09:41.220
But there is the probability of contracting an STI.
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Now, Q, isn't it also that there's a likelihood that women are less likely to wrap it or have a man wrap it up when they're ovulating?
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Women tend to, especially if they cheat, they tend to not make the man wrap it up when they're cheating, which goes back to the likelihood of you potentially getting pregnant by another man.
05:10:16.380
You talk about the, I know what you're talking about.
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You talk about the video that I had where I broke down like all the different types.
05:10:38.480
A lot of people get this as a misconception, but I'm sure you guys have heard about parabonding.
05:10:52.960
There's also, I think, even more rudimentary reason why it shows security rather than insecurity.
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I don't want to give other men things that belong to me because it's mine.
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So I assume when I think of a woman, when I think of a woman who is very loyal or virtuous,
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I think a woman who says that she would share me, me, I think that that would be not virtuous of her.
05:11:24.820
I think that that would show insecurity on her part, right?
05:11:27.160
I think that she would only want me to be with her.
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And I think as rudimentary as that sounds, and as silly as that sounds, doesn't that appeal to you guys in some way?
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If a man says, I don't want anybody to have you but me, isn't that appealing?
05:12:02.260
Yeah, if a man says you're mine or he's territorial over you, do you find that attractive?
05:12:11.480
You know, when I voice my concerns, when it comes to her and any potential guys that she talks to, she says, no, I like the fact that you say you don't want another man to have me or you're territorial over me.
05:12:20.900
Yeah, so also the parabonding thing, like I was saying, a lot of people think that women sleeping with a lot of men reduces their ability to parabond, but actually it's an indicator because women who sleep around actually already are more likely to have an inability to parabond, which is why they sleep around.
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Like, if you haven't avoided an attachment style.
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You probably already aren't built to maintain a long-term relationship.
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So, as I said, back to it being a good proxy for why we don't want women who are promiscuous, it indicates you just won't stay loyal and you won't stay around.
05:12:57.700
It's like, oh, greater likelihood of reporting relationship dissatisfaction.
05:13:04.700
Dissatisfaction, yeah, yeah, greater likelihood of reporting relationship dissatisfaction.
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If you've slept around, of course, you have more sexual partners to compare your current sexual partner to, and if you've had better dick in the past, then you have a higher likelihood of not being satisfied with the guy that you're currently with, which becomes problematic.
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If you're sexually insatiable or you're dating a guy who doesn't know your body, then you're more likely to leave him because he can't sexually satisfy you as well.
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But, like, there's some pussy that's, like, super sane level pussy, you know what I mean?
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I don't disagree with what you said, but you can also be unsatisfied, like, with your partner, even if you hadn't, like, all the sexual partners before, just because the sex is, like, terrible.
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Well, what would you, I don't understand, what would you have to compare it to?
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If you, if a woman had never had a sexual partner but you, what would she be comparing that to?
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I mean, it's not the point of comparing, but it's just the point of being not satisfied.
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How would she even know she wasn't satisfied if she has nothing to compare it to?
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She'd just know that she's not happy with the sexual life.
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But she wouldn't know what she was missing on the other side, right?
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Because there would be nothing to compare it to.
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So don't we wish, like, for everybody to be sexual?
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No, I don't wish that people were fucking prostitutes, that they could experience as much dick as possible to find the right one.
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So if I look at the historic standards, especially, but even not appealing to history, right, we'll just remove that.
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I'll just say that that was me being fallacious in my own argument by appealing to history.
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Why in the world would I want to have a woman who has compared or is going to compare me or Q or anybody else to other men that they've slept with?
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That seems like a really bad mating strategy, right?
05:15:31.160
I would never compare my husband with any guy who has slept in my past or future or anyone else.
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I've never made a comparison between these two men.
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So you have no ranking of sex when it comes to men?
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Would you tell your husband, you're the best I've ever had?
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So that means you, as opposed to all these other men, are the very best.
05:16:14.780
I mean, I would say the same if I hadn't had sex with someone before.
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So if you'd never had sex with another man before, you'd still say that he was the best, right?
05:16:37.880
It sounds like if you had never had sex with another man except your husband, you'd be totally satisfied, right?
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And would your husband be insecure if he had had you as a virgin and you had never had another man and he said that he preferred that?
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Maybe he would be afraid that I'm, like, missing something because I didn't have the experience.
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Oh, yeah, he'd send you out in the cock wilderness so that you could go get some more dicks so that you could get the necessary requisite experience so he knew that you weren't missing out?
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Go out to the cock forest, receiveth the dicketh, so that we know that you're not missing out on anything.
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Is there, like, a cock tundra or, like, a fucking, you know?
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You must experience all of the dick so that I know that you're not missing out.
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Said no man ever in the history of all men who have ever lived.
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Do any of you believe in the idea that you have to have sex to see what you like?
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Like, you have to experience with multiple women?
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Experiment with multiple men to see what you like.
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No, I just say that if you are not happy, not satisfied, that you, like, if you had
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If men lose faith in the loyalty of women, they are going to lose the desire to protect
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and provide for them, which is why soy boys like XQC would send his girl to deal with
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Devon Jackson, good to see you in the chat, man.
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I actually think you should send her, though, to be honest.
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Ladies, how many past partners would be too many for you to feel comfortable with your boyfriend
05:19:09.520
How many past partners would be too many for you to feel comfortable with your boyfriend
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I've never had that conversation with a partner.
05:19:40.060
So, after 50, that's where you get uncomfortable?
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I mean, when I care about one, why shouldn't, like, I don't care about many.
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If you fuck a hundred, if you fuck a million women, you're getting something.
05:20:09.820
That would be a problem, but we don't take it on that.
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He's asymptomatic, and you get a false negative.
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I mean, I would have to understand, or, like, if they were in a relationship, that's fine,
05:20:32.800
but if it was just, like, randomness hookups, and that would signify to me that they are
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not, like, in a place to be in a relationship that I could consider healthy for myself personally,
05:20:40.840
so it would have to be in the context of maybe under 20, considering I'm 30.
05:20:52.560
So, I think mine comes to, like, the discipline answer I said earlier.
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Like, if you have a thousand women that throw themselves at you, and you sleep with all
05:20:58.500
thousand of them, I think you're disgusting, but if you, like, have a hundred thousand women
05:21:02.660
that threw themselves at you, and you slept with a thousand, like, you're kind of disciplined.
05:21:07.420
Like, ideally, though, I wouldn't want somebody to sleep with that many people, but, like,
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I think it just depends on how many you were offered, and how many you took the time
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I actually think that that's a pretty good answer.
05:21:18.820
So, I think from your end that this makes sense.
05:21:23.760
I don't think that women care very much about a man's body count, to be honest.
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The more that I've discussed this topic with women, and there is some empirical data for
05:21:34.240
this, of course, not too many people are diving into who cares about what other than kind of
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polls, like from Pew and other places like this, but generally speaking, they don't seem
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In fact, I've heard the opposite from women, that if a man is 30 or 35 and a virgin, they
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They go, what the hell is wrong with you, that a woman doesn't desire you at that age?
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I've never heard men say that they hold it against a woman for staying chased into her
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And let me just add to your point, Andrew, actually, experientially, some women will say
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that they care, but I think they're just trying to be politically correct because of like
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But I've never actually heard a woman, I've never had a woman really ask me my body count,
05:22:27.780
and I've never really had a woman tell me, oh no, like I can't sleep with you because
05:22:32.660
Typically, they just tell me like, oh, you're kind of a man whore, or you're kind of a man
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thot, and they laugh it off, and then we continue dating and dealing with one another.
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And that's about the extent of any criticism that I get from them.
05:22:51.400
I've always wanted to ask you this because you study this nonstop, right?
05:22:55.140
Do you think that the penetrative factor is a big reason for this?
05:23:00.840
I think it's rooted in the penetrative factor because, I mean, when you look at the act
05:23:06.800
of sex, it's like a woman is being sexually dominated by a man.
05:23:12.060
Like the man is going inside of her, and he's doing whatever he wants to her.
05:23:17.240
I mean, anytime you sleep with a woman, you're doing whatever you want to her, and she's yours
05:23:28.380
So the thought that she would even allow a certain amount of men to do that to her would
05:23:33.480
just be off-putting to any man who has a brain that operates as normally as it should be operating.
05:23:42.460
I've always been curious, and here's why, because I don't hear men say this very much.
05:23:48.900
I don't hear them say that they don't want a woman who has former same-sex relationships.
05:23:57.560
So men go, okay, if you're a lesbian, I don't care.
05:24:00.440
If you've gone, you know, if you've done things with women, I don't care.
05:24:04.260
But women seem to care a great deal if men have had a same-sex relationship at all.
05:24:10.140
And when I ask them, they seem to allude to the penetrative factor.
05:24:19.440
And it's funny as hell when you put it like that, because every woman wants to feel like
05:24:25.780
So if a man tells a woman, like, yeah, I've been bent over before, or the man been to prison
05:24:30.340
and, you know, he got griped in prison, then she's going to look at him like, you're a bitch.
05:24:43.600
But, yeah, it's definitely the penetrative factor.
05:24:48.660
Well, I have a question, pretty much almost final question once she's back from the bathroom.
05:24:55.260
But we're going to go into the roast session, the chaos roast session section of the show.
05:25:02.880
If you guys want to get a little roasting, Austin, can you open the door?
05:25:33.240
If you chat, spam avocado emoji in the chat, please.
05:25:43.320
I want to just cut that shit open and see the cross section.
05:26:06.620
Oh, I do still have that question when she's back, but I want to wait until she's back from
05:26:20.120
The fall wish list and then we have the picture of the girl and then we have, yeah.
05:26:32.120
Oh, that's for another, we'll do that for another episode.
05:26:38.120
The hugging one is like if anybody says beauty is subjective.
05:26:48.920
So, now that she's back at the table, let's see here.
05:26:53.740
Let me, it is, it should be set to the, it should be set, guys.
05:28:00.180
You, on the other hand, couldn't fake your way through an orasm.
05:28:08.860
I paused it temporarily just to get through this body count.
05:28:28.360
You know, you know, you don't know, you don't know if it's, you know it's less than 10.
05:28:39.120
You don't know if it was, hang on, so you don't know if it was two?
05:28:41.460
Well, I was a really bad alcoholic and coke addict maybe like four years ago.
05:28:47.020
Um, so I did date around a lot during that time, but I never kept count or anything like that.
05:28:56.720
Um, I was, I don't, when my dad's watching this, I don't want to answer.
05:29:09.820
By the way, for the $20 TTSs I just paused over, just to get through this.
05:29:20.560
It was long distance, we met up once, and then that was the Philadelphia situation.
05:29:32.320
It was a long distance relationship, you guys fucked once?
05:29:53.260
I'm sorry, I don't believe it, but okay, what about you?
05:29:58.580
Oh, wait, I should've been playing this all night.
05:30:27.000
Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
05:30:42.480
Perhaps I can assist you with the one and only best debater on the internet, Destiny.
05:30:56.620
You said you've, just for your work, in the past, like, three years, you've slept with
05:31:05.960
So your body count of nine, half of them was in the past.
05:31:49.240
We must leave the Misty Mountains and take the great trek through Fangon Forest in search
05:32:05.780
Andrew, you are an unpublished pseudo-intellectual with an attention problem.
05:32:21.880
Mike is actually the worst answer to the question.
05:32:27.000
This means you allowed men inside you that you didn't care enough to remember slash know.
05:32:44.680
Mexican cartel lawyer escapes and crosses the border to live her dream life of being an
05:33:09.220
Yoko Ono was John Lennon's main squeeze and she always brought little sunglasses.
05:33:23.720
I want to see those mommy milkers squirt all over the panel like this and come back round
05:33:38.280
Is it gay if a man has sex with someone with tatties, 10-inch unshaven arms, don't show
05:34:04.920
That's, that's an open for the, where would you open for the whole panel?
05:34:26.140
I mean, wouldn't it explain a lot that you do believe in therapy?
05:35:01.680
Share 3 told so many lies tonight, she confused herself.
05:35:15.620
Man, she doesn't have a lot of energy for a 24-year-old.
05:35:32.100
This is going to be a short show tonight, actually.
05:35:38.900
I mean, comparatively speaking, but we are going to, once we get through this.
05:35:44.580
Brian, saw on Instagram you were looking for a new producer.
05:35:51.580
I'd like to change my previous offer for a burger up here in SLO to a burrito.
05:35:57.320
None of your fucking business what happened with Nick.
05:36:06.780
He wanted to go to college and he's wanted to pursue school.
05:36:20.240
I still think he's in mind his own fucking business, honestly.
05:36:24.200
But, yeah, no, and he'll, like, if we ever need someone to fill in, he's still, we're all on good terms.
05:36:35.200
If you want, guys, before we wrap up, get a last minute TTS in.
05:36:42.260
Also, why don't we pull up Twitch, Discord, all the other stuff, and then for the final time.
05:36:51.020
Guys, get us to, before the end of the stream, can you guys help us get to 90,500 followers?
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So, guys, if you have, also, if you have a Prime sub, drop us a Prime sub over there on Twitch.
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Guys, if you have a Twitch account, drop us a follow.
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Check if you have a Prime sub available, please.
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Help us, boys, help us get to 90,500 followers.
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And if you have Amazon Prime, you're able to link it to your Twitch.
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It's a quick, free, easy way to support the show every single month.
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If you guys can become a member, we'd really appreciate it.
05:38:04.140
And then, also, you guys got to go to debateuniversity.com.
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If you want to learn how to craft arguments, like the grandmaster debater, Andrew.
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80-plus videos, six hours of instructional content.
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We have some new stuff that's going to drop over there.
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Even for you who have already bought the course, there's going to be some more.
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That's dropping over there, and that's coming soon.
05:38:48.920
Guys, if you want, get your last-minute roasts in.
05:39:04.840
You know how, like, just 10 seconds ago, you had, like, your head in your hands like this,
05:39:36.580
Should I accept to FWB position to keep the door open for her to commit later, or tell her
05:39:42.340
I prefer to have sex inside of a relationship and to hit me up when she's ready?
05:39:53.460
Rank in terms of importance, maybe next episode.
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Sense of humor, values, looks, sex quality, integrity, religion, age, body count, serious
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relationship, history, communication, honesty, assertiveness.
05:40:20.220
We'll do it next episode, if you can send us a reminder.
05:40:23.880
Katatonic, should he accept a friends with benefit position to keep the door open for
05:40:42.300
And anyone, anyone on the panel want to weigh in on that one?
05:40:52.860
Better check yourself before you wreck yourself.
05:41:19.200
Yeah, it's just, you have to remember that YouTube is a business.
05:41:23.980
The legendary Trash Panda donated $19 and 99 cents.
05:41:29.020
From right to left, minus one, minus one, minus one, minus one, minus one, five-tenths.
05:41:44.220
But for you, I'm going to need you to fix that nose.
05:41:55.080
You got some people crushing on you in the chat there.
05:41:59.140
So while I understand, I understand when a person's a part of a show, you're used to seeing
05:42:06.600
That it is a business, and from the business standpoint, there may be, you know, the person
05:42:14.260
who left for whatever reason, they may not want their business out there, right?
05:42:19.080
And so from a proprietary position, I think it's totally appropriate to say, hey, even
05:42:26.260
though you want to know this, mind your own business, right?
05:42:33.780
Burrito underscore bucket underscore dump donated $20.
05:42:42.260
Would you rather be on the woods with a random burrito man or a random burrito bear?
05:42:54.160
Aussie girl plus Jackie deserves the most respect on this panel.
05:43:01.020
Brian, what would it take for you to dress up as a burrito for the entire podcast on
05:43:09.980
I need a, I'm going to need maybe a Bitcoin to do it.
05:43:15.060
I will dress up, I will get a burrito costume, and I will eat a burrito in a burrito costume.
05:43:41.840
Brian, how did you get the domain whatever.com back when you were still doing pranks?
05:43:56.120
It was a, I thought it was a worthy investment.
05:44:00.320
I've never seen so many women look 25 and 62 simultaneously.
05:44:03.380
Brian, you are a gay Charlie Brown with a fetish for fleshy holes.
05:44:22.760
So I just kind of told you where I come at it from.
05:44:25.380
He said, Big Sean, RZA, the chick with the tattoo of a mermaid.
05:44:46.740
Does your boyfriend prefer if your film partners eat pineapple before he goes felching?
05:45:00.100
The first thing that needs to happen when Trump is elected is that an IQ test is nationally
05:45:08.300
Oh, and that annoying German accent is made illegal.
05:45:15.240
Senorita can go home when she can tell you what 18 plus 8 is.
05:45:32.280
Would you make love in a pool full of Pepto-Bismol?
05:46:03.320
I didn't leave your husband after he F-ked Mary Lynn Monroe.
05:46:28.960
If you like Tall Geese so much, maybe you should hop in one and suffer as all their pilots do,
05:46:39.200
Women don't report grape to the police because filing a false report is a felony,
05:46:45.120
meaning there is a consequence for a false accusation.
05:46:52.900
But, I mean, we found time and time again that even when it's, like, provable that there
05:46:59.660
is a false accusation, the vast majority of the time doesn't even get prosecuted, so.
05:47:10.280
As stated, she doesn't want a relationship as of now, but she enjoys spending time with
05:47:17.880
I think she's just scared of the title since the divorce.
05:47:22.660
Because, I mean, it doesn't sound so bad if there's not other dudes in the picture.
05:47:38.860
To quote the great Andrew Wilson and Brian Atlas, let us assume for a second and, listen,
05:47:44.740
normalize fucking punching random women in the pussy.
05:48:09.960
Brixen, young chai, young fat classed up the show on Saturday with that suit.
05:48:15.200
Find security for Maddie while she is out on the street.
05:48:19.860
I got some things in the work on the security front.
05:48:31.440
Brian, maybe she can invite one of her friends to your burrito eat-offs.
05:48:46.740
But it was the only way to get the right to vote.
05:48:51.300
I think that could be a step in the right direction, but I'd have some issues with it.
05:49:21.860
If you haven't watched Fate, I highly recommend it.
05:49:25.260
Thanks, Andrew and Brian, for all the amazing content.
05:49:31.940
It was just, Andrew, can you administer the breakfast test?
05:49:41.700
How would you feel if you had not had breakfast this morning?
05:49:58.620
How would you feel if you had not had breakfast this morning?
05:50:57.620
What was the question that you wanted to ask me?
05:51:12.300
Um, so I know, I don't know the exact scripture.
05:51:32.600
Uh, so I'm not sure of the exact, the exact, the exact scripture that it comes from.
05:51:39.200
Um, but I have read that Jesus actually did embrace the use of, um, like crystals and things
05:51:47.820
So what do you have, do you like know anything about that?
05:51:49.920
Like what's your opinion on that section of the Bible?
05:51:57.220
If I had my phone, I'd look up the exact, uh, scripture that it is, but he, he does say
05:52:06.640
Because I guarantee you it doesn't talk about Jesus doing witchcraft with crystals.
05:52:14.440
Maybe it's just, I'm just saying, like just didn't have, maybe it's from like the epistles
05:52:25.200
Mexican girl, can you, uh, pay off my student loans plaza?
05:52:44.100
His cuckold sexual life was at an all-time high masturbating to endless men buggering his
05:53:31.260
No, I remember watching it on TV before I went to school.
05:53:45.280
And then I was like, thinking to myself, we're about to bomb the millions.
05:54:09.320
And then, you know, damn bro, this guy, Demo just made it all heavy and shit.
05:54:58.080
Need some feet pics to see if I am cool with you running your toes through my fur.
05:55:11.960
It says if you believe in crystals, you are retarded.
05:55:15.040
Fun fact, a family member convinced her children crystals could be used as deodorant.
05:55:32.560
You call your friends retards when they're acting retarded.
05:55:40.140
Big Sas, thank you, man, for the TTS Trash Panda.
05:55:50.720
Get a more TTS in, but any final thoughts from anybody on the panel?
05:56:00.880
So I'm a virgin technically and I still got knocked up.
05:56:04.240
I know this looks bad, but I'm only 14, so it must be God's right.
05:56:09.600
My father told me that if we tell everyone this, we'll be famous.
05:56:37.820
She showed so much character and respect for herself.
05:57:28.760
Just because I feel like 20 is still a different mind frame than a 30-year-old.
05:57:40.560
Yeah, I always wonder about this fresh out of high school thing.
05:57:45.180
You think we should let women vote fresh out of high school?
05:57:57.240
The original famous women that lied about sleeping with a guy because she was ashamed.
05:58:02.400
Teamed up with a scammer and blamed it on God and everyone got rich.
05:58:09.700
But anyway, so, yeah, do you think we should let women, these little kids vote?
05:58:14.980
Who just, like, they're fresh out of high school?
05:58:19.840
Um, see, with that, I'd probably say, I mean, are we talking?
05:58:32.960
So, I don't want to say no, but at the same time, I kind of lean a little bit towards no,
05:58:37.520
just because there's not a whole bunch of, um, I guess, reputable information going into
05:58:44.740
not only our education system, but also just, like, what's being spread out towards, um,
05:58:51.000
people of a younger age that are able to vote, um, so I think there should be.
05:58:56.040
So, what age, what age should women be able to vote and pick the relationships of their
05:59:01.900
Whether it be women or just everybody in general, um, and, like, age requirement, I think, I,
05:59:08.560
I personally think that age to vote could be a little higher, not just for women, but
05:59:22.860
So, 20, so, 21 to 31 age gap relationship wouldn't bother you?
05:59:42.420
Have you ever seen that movie, A League of Their Own?
05:59:47.160
No, you need to go watch A League of Their Own, and you need to go, look at the chick
05:59:51.540
who, um, I, I can't remember her name, but they recruit her, and she's, like, raised as
05:59:59.080
a, you look just like that chick, who's raised as a tomboy that they recruit in, and she's
06:00:03.760
always looking at the ground and shit, too, and, like, can't form the sentences that she,
06:00:12.200
You'll find your, like, you'll find your doppelganger in that movie.
06:00:19.460
I mean, if it's not too much, too big, and the person is not too young, then I don't see
06:00:48.500
You gotta look up Marla Hooch from A League of Their Own.
06:01:09.460
Well, I mean, that can happen when you're the same age as the guy.
06:01:18.580
Anyways, I don't really feel like dating the age gap thing.
06:01:30.800
I'll let the rest of the messages come in, then we'll wrap up.
06:01:35.460
Last call, guys, if you want to get the message in.
06:01:52.900
If you don't believe in God, look up what antimatter is and how the universe shouldn't make sense.
06:01:59.180
Too many ways the universe conflicts with itself without having a creator.
06:02:14.240
Can I shoot you a DM and add you on guys on Steam?
06:02:20.800
I don't really play first-person shooters, though.
06:02:30.960
I mean, more recently, but I stopped playing video games about four years ago.
06:02:46.320
Just like the DLC, like gating certain content.
06:02:50.580
So then if you don't have the DLC, you can't play with other people.
06:03:17.920
Mexican girls' brother selling you meth does not count as proof of Jesus working with crystals.
06:03:30.160
Random underscore bear underscore feet underscore pics donated $20.
06:03:35.480
Maddie asking all the women if they sold feet pics on the IRL was hilarious.
06:03:43.360
People wearing lingerie in public is not normal.
06:03:47.520
By the way, guys, so if you guys don't know, we're on episode 7 yesterday for the IRL stream.
06:03:57.800
Guys, we've been doing these IRL streams Friday and Saturday nights, typically from like 10 p.m. to midnight, 1 a.m.
06:04:03.760
Madison's been going, doing these interviews, kind of bringing the podcast to the street.
06:04:10.620
And, I mean, the responses to the questions on the street are, I mean, insane.
06:04:19.860
So, if you guys want to tune in live, we're starting to do that.
06:04:23.300
We're going to be consistent with it Fridays and Saturdays.
06:04:27.280
And, by the way, Q, when did you get into town?
06:04:42.240
Well, maybe next time we'll get you on the IRL stream.
06:04:43.920
But, yeah, the IRL streams, we're doing them on the whatever channel, Friday, Saturday, 10 p.m.
06:05:01.000
How come women say they are so mature until age gaps come up?
06:05:17.500
Brian, you need to get the hell out of California.
06:05:27.060
I don't know how long I'll be here, to be honest.
06:05:35.980
I'm thinking Hawaii or Florida or leaving the U.S.
06:06:23.060
Brian, you're sending Maddie to the streets, but she doesn't belong there and get Morgan a
06:06:32.160
But, I mean, she plays soccer, so I feel like she can handle it, you know, because she
06:07:48.200
No, because, like, I walked by and I didn't know if that was...
06:07:56.900
By the way, guys, do you guys want to see Anissa...
06:08:01.500
Do you want to see Anissa helping out with the IRL streams?
06:08:10.700
Morgan got them thick thighs and booty to support herself for eight hours.
06:08:23.340
Look, Anissa, look at everybody in the chat there.
06:08:27.720
I mean, somebody just said, no, it's better if she's quiet.
06:08:31.220
I was thinking she could just, like, be kicking it.
06:08:35.920
Maybe even, like, hold up the whatever banner in the background or something.
06:08:55.340
Guys, it's been 31 minutes since we last got a Prime, if anybody has a Prime available.
06:09:00.720
If you have Amazon Prime, you can link at your Twitch quick for an easy way to support the show every single month.
06:09:11.920
And if you guys want to see the BTS behind the scenes, you want to see the hate mail, you want to see all kinds of crazy...
06:09:25.680
I posted a lot of stuff related to, like, the podcast.
06:09:27.760
But recently, I, like, went through my archive, posted a bunch of, like, old, old stuff.
06:09:31.360
So, like, PewDiePie, that's him reacting to one of my prank videos.
06:09:34.940
We were on Tosh.0 a long time ago, one of our pranks.
06:09:44.300
That's me on, like, Mexican Fox Sports or whatever.
06:09:56.260
We see a lot of strange things here in New York City, but this may be among the strangest.
06:10:01.620
This is a guy walking his pet dinosaur in Central Park.
06:10:05.940
As you might imagine, he attracted a bit of attention.
06:10:12.040
And just in case you're nervous at all, we should assure you this was just...
06:10:23.340
Wait, so a guy in a costume walking his dinosaur.
06:10:25.300
Yes, a guy in a costume is walking the real dinosaur.
06:10:46.060
Well, one Santa Barbara man put some mistletoe on a fishing pole.
06:10:49.340
It was part of a prank that was all caught on tape.
06:10:53.960
Okay, you can, all right, you can, you get the idea.
06:12:01.080
She's the only one that's kind of doing anything.
06:12:34.360
Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
06:13:53.080
Are you like, are you like kind of fuck more with like Beethoven and like Mozart?
06:15:11.700
I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you and you a call to action.
06:15:20.880
And addendum, would you consider stop making your husband a cuck?
06:15:30.700
Would you consider showing your husband the respect he deserves and not allowing other men to come inside of you?
06:15:54.860
I wonder if I can make an addendum to the call to action and just simply request if perhaps you ladies would just take one less dick per month until, gradually, you got to only one dick.
06:16:10.640
I wonder if we could possibly implore you to just kind of gradually step down the penis intake until you just got to one.
06:16:58.240
W, Brian, W, Q, W, Andrew, W, Maddie, W, Anissa, W, Morgan, W, Austin, W, Desmond, W, German, Tiddies, BTW.
06:17:16.500
Woe definitely doesn't follow the teachings of Jesus.
06:17:28.000
Perhaps he's too much of a poosie to tell you, but he doesn't want other peens in you.
06:17:58.260
Brixen, the Erica song was not made for the party.
06:18:20.620
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
06:18:23.240
Thank you to everyone who superchats, donates, and supports the show.
06:18:27.340
Could not do the show without you guys, so your patronage is...
06:18:33.840
You guys are super, super generous with it, so thank you guys so much, man.
06:18:41.180
Would have been grateful for even like a quarter, 10% of kind of the support and success that
06:18:54.880
Then I'll have to probably get myself into therapy after all this.
06:19:09.680
Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to
06:19:14.800
Daryl underscore Frank underscore Castle donated $20.
06:19:24.080
Should have brought on Desiree on tonight to celebrate with her and a burrito.
06:19:35.480
I was just going to say it was a pleasure to meet all of you gals here.
06:19:39.800
I thought we had some spirited back and forth, and it was a lot of fun.
06:20:12.140
We're going to send a raid over to Whoa, Grandma.
06:20:17.800
Marla, you made the right choice getting married and not continuing on with the baseball league.
06:20:50.680
If it's like a 1v1, Rachel versus Desiree, I'll do it.
06:20:58.100
I would fly, I think I would fly Rachel out for a 1v1 with Desiree.
06:21:06.020
But only if the chat donates ridiculous amounts of money to the whatever podcast and to the
06:21:13.820
And then I think, I think I just couldn't say no.
06:21:22.160
She is playing Retail, World of Warcraft Classic.
06:21:30.500
I'm going to send the raid here in just a few seconds.
06:22:12.660
Anyway, she's in the middle of, looks like an instance.