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00:00:00.000 welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating

00:00:15.740 hellscape i'm your host brian atlas we're coming to you live from santa barbara california every

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00:01:30.380 link with a guide it's at the top of the description tts monster uh it's the same rate as the normal tts

00:01:38.720 uh you still send it through stream labs so this is just the guide you don't have to go you don't go

00:01:44.840 here to actually send it but when you input your message if you input it with certain keywords

00:01:49.420 you can pick like a custom uh there there's sound effects and then you can change the voice

00:01:55.380 of the tts to kind of make things a bit unique right now we've just now the new default well you'll

00:02:01.600 see what the default is but play that first example chet i have an announcement to make lower it lower it

00:02:07.360 holy fuck i wonder what he will say surely he will not say something to play the next one

00:02:15.000 chat i think that red is acting kind of sus i am definitely not the imposter i think that we

00:02:24.120 should vote them off okay next one i wonder what this it's too low now hundred and twenty three

00:02:31.420 message will sound like it may not sound like what you were expecting it to sound like

00:02:40.880 totally ridiculous but there's a there's a whole bunch of other cool ones uh and then we changed

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00:04:20.500 warcraft guild if you go to the raid sign up tab guys we'll see if we can do it thursday this is this

00:04:27.140 coming thursday december 12th we're gonna raid molten core i don't know we'll see i don't know if we'll

00:04:32.900 have enough 60s but um also uh can you pull up uh also if any of you are playing world of warcraft

00:04:40.060 classic anniversary horde knight slayer realm can you pull that up uh pull it up damien

00:04:44.320 just hold on don't okay reconnect don't pull it up yet one sec boys one sec all right hit enter

00:04:56.060 enter world scuffed one sec boys i want okay law if you're playing this game right now

00:05:03.560 all right change it over to window dab uh all right guys i'm on the top switch the cam switch the thing

00:05:12.180 i'm on the top

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00:05:29.420 uh guys

00:05:32.260 oh look at the guild the guild is going crazy all right

00:05:36.760 open up a trade window with me and damien here is going to accept all the gold send

00:05:42.020 open up a trade window give me gold give me bags look at those shitty bags

00:05:46.200 i need rune cloth bags i'll take traveler's backpack 16 slot

00:05:50.160 you get the freaking layering is bullshit though so we're gonna have to get in on the same layer so

00:05:54.900 you gotta whisper me we'll send you an invite maybe i don't know we'll figure it out

00:05:59.040 uh i need gold though so good and we'll pull it up well we'll thank you guys if you send some gold

00:06:03.660 so all right there it is uh you can minimize that all right disclaimer the views expressed by the

00:06:08.400 guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel

00:06:11.120 with that said without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please

00:06:16.320 tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead

00:06:19.600 um an i e 22 years old i'm from i want to share my location but i'm from socal santa barbara county

00:06:30.500 there you go um and occupation i don't really do anything you don't do anything you're a neat

00:06:37.460 what do you mean a neat yeah she's a neat basically if that's what you do you know what

00:06:43.720 a neat is no but it's uh it's a acronym for not in employment education or training well i just

00:06:51.580 finished school i'm taking a little break but i'm going to be going back in january going back

00:06:56.260 in january okay and you do only fans yeah so i guess i'm doing stuff but i'm taking a little

00:07:02.100 break right now that's what i'm trying to say all right uh and you're going to school where uh sbcc

00:07:09.540 studying what i'm going back for real estate for real estate classes all right cool what about you

00:07:15.220 hi um my name is elsie i'm 18 um i'm from los angeles but i currently go to ucsb and i work with kids

00:07:23.260 all right uh what are you studying at ucsb i'm a pre-com major pre-com okay all right what about you

00:07:30.340 hi i'm michelle i'm 25 um i am from orange county california and i am a recruiter

00:07:38.660 all right uh any school yes i graduated in cal state fullerton you got a bachelor's degree yeah

00:07:46.120 in what communication and calm okay what about you hi my name is carissa i'm 20 years old i go to

00:07:53.260 santa barbara city college and i also work with kids with elsie all right and uh what uh what are

00:07:59.440 you studying i'm doing theater right now theater okay you want to be an actress or yeah are you like

00:08:05.960 because some people in theater they're behind the scenes you do behind the scenes stuff or like crew

00:08:11.780 uh yeah i just do whatever right now i'm just learning a lot right now okay so you but you

00:08:18.120 want to act right yeah okay what about you hi my name is darkavia i'm 23 years old uh and i'm a

00:08:27.400 babysitter wait 23 yeah okay all right school any school no no school all right what about you

00:08:35.340 hi my name is chloe i'm 27 i'm also from orange county as well i'm currently accounting just not

00:08:41.640 in tax all right uh schooling cal state fullerton all right bachelor's in accounting accounting there

00:08:48.860 you go what about you hi my name is ashley i'm 24 25 in a month but i currently don't go to school

00:08:59.420 um and i'm a barista and a lash technician any school whatsoever yeah i went to um a community

00:09:08.420 college for like two years did you get your associates or no i was just shy of my associates

00:09:13.960 what were you uh i was i wanted to be um oh my gosh a radiologist but i uh just stopped going

00:09:24.560 okay eric what's a uh what's a lash technician i do lash extensions like where you put individual lashes on

00:09:33.680 other lashes for girls is that very technical yeah they're literally artists like actual artists

00:09:40.840 it takes a lot of skill and a lot of practice i get my lashes done oh yeah okay you need a a lot of skill

00:09:48.720 for that

00:09:49.320 go ahead eric what's going on is your man eric aka illa aka illa cyclical radio

00:09:57.980 39 by way of uh jersey by way of north carolina construction management peace

00:10:03.760 all right uh andrew what about you

00:10:06.780 yeah my name is andrew wilson i'm uh the host of the crucible popular entertainment channel on youtube

00:10:14.300 i'm a political analyst a political satirist i occasionally enjoy doing debates and conversations

00:10:20.340 and i do them all over the world via video like this or in person and i'm glad everybody's here

00:10:26.100 tonight i'm looking forward to this conversation all right welcome everybody going as be said whether

00:10:32.040 or not it's only three shows left better not happen we need whatever

00:10:38.220 what the what the hell what do you want hold on uh it's not popping up on my end

00:10:51.460 we need how did you do that bro

00:10:55.780 wait what

00:10:58.660 okay uh oh the default voice can you boost the audio all the way

00:11:03.720 the default voice is trump i know that was not my choice the viewers voted for it

00:11:13.280 bangs learned long ago that the amount of time people can tolerate her is directly proportional

00:11:23.540 to the amount of cleavage visible still would ladies what years were w one slash w w

00:11:32.880 what the fuck trump um

00:11:37.820 the tts monster needs a bit of work but do you want to respond bangs

00:11:44.000 i don't know if i mean wait do they mean that i was showing too much cleavage before or what

00:11:48.620 i don't know if that's what that meant i'm really confused by the question i'm confused too

00:11:52.840 yeah it was very confusing um okay what years were world war one world war two going around the

00:12:00.060 table no idea i remember learning it in school but i don't remember now okay

00:12:05.000 um it's a good thing i'm a pre-communications major because i'm not good with history let's just say

00:12:12.980 that sure all right i don't know no i not even how about here just take a guess take a guess

00:12:20.360 okay can i take a guess yes for world war one and then world war two

00:12:27.220 you're gonna clown on me but around maybe in the 1920s maybe

00:12:35.020 okay for world war world world two world war two yeah i don't know i'm not sure about what

00:12:41.700 when did you think world war one early 1900s okay sure what about you my ap teachers would

00:12:47.180 be so disappointed in me so disappointed so disappointed and that was just like last year

00:12:51.740 right yeah okay take a guess take a wild guess it's gonna be off that's fine it's okay if it's wrong

00:12:59.700 maybe like what'd you say the 1920s for world war two and early 1900s

00:13:08.500 1860s i don't know okay for was that for world war one sure and then world war two

00:13:15.240 um 1970 um okay yeah i'm just gonna play it safe 1950 and 1980

00:13:24.020 so uh world war one 1950 and then 1980 i don't know 1980

00:13:30.740 world war two yeah okay all right sure just a guess go ahead i'll just say the same as her 1920s

00:13:38.660 for world war one and then world war two

00:13:41.040 this is welcome to the historical podcast historical dating podcast

00:13:47.920 because it's something to do with the prohibition right then prohibition was during

00:13:53.820 the 1920s so it has to it has nothing to do yes it does because i remember i did i did a whole skit

00:13:59.500 on this on my you did a skit yeah i did a skit the u.s education yes i did she did a skit on

00:14:04.540 prohibition yes i did okay that's cool um you know look dating was fire like it was it was it was lit in

00:14:12.880 the world war one era you know uh did you what about you darkavia

00:14:18.560 uh i say world war two around like 1920 yeah world war one and then probably like

00:14:27.620 1890 or something like that i don't freaking know okay it's okay

00:14:33.100 yeah me too it's a dating show not history all right all right what do you think and we all agree

00:14:39.480 there is not one female above a 4.5 minus 5 at this table

00:14:45.000 oh what the yo it's triggering the super chats i don't know why

00:14:49.860 that's scuffed that should not be okay go ahead thank you i think it's world war one is 1920

00:14:57.680 world war two is 1945 maybe okay what about you um i'd have to go with her it's around the 1920s

00:15:04.520 was world war one and around the 1940 somethings was world war two sweet all right uh going around

00:15:10.780 the table once more i'm just got to figure out what's going on with the tts monster wait can we

00:15:15.320 figure out the answers oh okay yeah uh world war one was uh 1914 to 1918 world war two 1939 1945

00:15:22.200 uh relationship status if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest

00:15:27.080 relationship you've ever been in um i am single i've been single since i've for three years now

00:15:34.080 um the longest relationship i have been in was maybe a year a year and a half okay got it uh sorry

00:15:44.120 and you've been uh single for how long again sorry uh three years going on four years i think okay

00:15:49.820 around there maybe three and a half sure all right what about you i'm currently single

00:15:54.940 um the longest relationship i've been in was a little under a year and then i've been single for

00:16:00.960 around two years and you said uh just about a year for your longest relationship yeah i see okay

00:16:08.220 all right what about you they're eating our dogs bro eating our cats yeah it's not supposed to trigger

00:16:16.500 off the freaking youtube hold on one sec guys let me get this freaking fixed i don't know why it's

00:16:22.480 why it's doing that uh it should be disabled um here the only the only thing i can do i don't know

00:16:30.640 if this is going to fix it how my year ended a belongings destroyed by hurricane duck passes away

00:16:37.920 grandma l now whatever leaving good news trump is president hey yeah that's not so you guys are

00:16:47.120 abusing the the busted system all right well i don't know if that's uh we'll see if that fixes it i don't

00:16:55.120 know if it doesn't then we gotta disable the tts monster uh relationship status um i'm single and

00:17:03.200 i've been single my whole life okay uh so never had a boyfriend no what's the longest period of time

00:17:12.000 you've like seen a guy um maybe like a month okay but i don't really date often i'm okay being single

00:17:24.200 so the longest consecutive period you said was uh one month just like getting to know the person

00:17:30.760 in springfield hey they're eating the dogs and cats bro oh my dude okay uh we gotta decide i don't know

00:17:39.840 why alert tts monster unfortunately totally scuffed should not be triggering the super chats that's what's

00:17:48.080 going on uh ridiculous um yeah you gotta go into okay here damien go to in the sources on all the

00:17:59.420 sources so go to tts sorry sorry chat we gotta get rid of tts monster uh tts monster hide it i think

00:18:05.060 that'll do it okay go to the left hide it in left right center zoom uh windows videos

00:18:12.920 yeah go to the window tab pull up pull up world of warcraft 2 let's see if anybody wants to

00:18:19.420 this is totally scuffed i don't know all right wait do that to go bidders are attached to tarts

00:18:24.700 hey what the hell

00:18:28.060 um hey is that wait damien click click on that guy monkey w discord bro hey click click on monkey

00:18:41.620 in the in the game click it no hey right there in front of you bro no that's fucking not monkey

00:18:47.120 right there bro click on hey trade with him that guy wants to give me gold right click on his portrait

00:18:52.200 oh never mind he's he's just taking this fuck that guy forget it fuck that guy bro um what the fuck

00:19:00.500 dude here wait go okay go to windows and videos

00:19:03.720 and hide tts monster sorry guys we're totally scuffed hi window tab oh it's hot okay i don't know

00:19:16.280 if that's gonna fix it oh my goodness sorry guys angs is a fat monster like rosie obano

00:19:23.780 a hide that shit what the sprinkler goes like the ssssssdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsds Agency ifdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsds

00:19:53.780 you boys pause Q well that wait maybe is that could that that might do allowed the

00:20:04.900 course to speak this is huge oh fuck okay the put what the hell man RC was

00:20:12.800 slandering you again Brixton bro what the fuck

00:20:18.320 don't worry guys we're gonna get this solved in just a moment just a couple

00:20:25.520 technical issues what in the frick is happening I have no idea boys love you be

00:20:33.380 you do a great job by the way my trans women a wait I don't even know I don't

00:20:45.560 know what to do boys I don't even know what to do um hold on I I need like a

00:20:58.040 technical difficulty okay illisophical ask a question or some shit how was your

00:21:07.480 weekend ladies we are yet do anything exciting you know me too short was too

00:21:13.360 short the week oh word word what happened what you was doing um I went to the

00:21:17.920 mall yesterday oh which mall um the one in Santa Barbara I don't know who you guys

00:21:21.940 know which one I think so okay so y'all from the local

00:21:25.840 area all y'all yeah I am I'm not well I'm standing well I want to see it but I'm not

00:21:31.000 too far from here I can answer that I'm from the valley okay so 45 minutes away the

00:21:38.560 valley but Saninez valley oh okay um there's lots of wine tasting everywhere there's wineries

00:21:46.240 everywhere you should go you're from where Saninez valley Salinas no Saninez sorry yeah

00:21:53.040 it's like only a few minutes away from here so hookah lounges around here nothing like that

00:21:57.800 just just wineries and tasteries yeah if I mean if I don't want to drive far it's just

00:22:01.780 like wineries breweries like all of that we're surrounded by ocean so I think you should go to

00:22:07.760 the beach yeah go to the beach honestly go to the pier no go to the pier yeah just for

00:22:14.420 a sunset just have like a cute little go to butterfly picnic or something oh I've never

00:22:20.080 been there wait where is it you have to go through like Montecito to get through there

00:22:25.180 okay yeah just go wine to I don't know where you're are you more north or south from here

00:22:31.400 near near go what's caught to Panera Panera wait what how you pronounce it Panera

00:22:37.380 oh carp no I'm good oh there's this place I don't want to give like free promo or anything but

00:22:44.520 there's this really cute restaurant by the beach that you should go to okay starts with a p but I

00:22:49.440 won't I won't give promo it's free cloud on here it's called the keenest closet no wow no it's right

00:22:55.400 by the it's right by the beach they have the cutest sunsets you can get you can order your food and

00:22:59.960 it has the cutest sunsets it's an instant park sunset I don't know what that means a cute sunset

00:23:04.260 a cute sunset what does that even I don't know how to explain it to you gotta figure it out

00:23:08.220 it's a cute sunset I don't know hide that shit bro do you figure it out hopefully I don't know

00:23:13.600 maybe those already just go ahead all right um so okay sorry guys I think it should be let me let me

00:23:22.540 I don't know if it's gonna work I'm gonna have to hide I'm gonna have to remove it from the

00:23:27.540 description apologize for the uh technical difficulties there trying something new all

00:23:33.840 right so uh you've been single your whole life yes the longest period of time you've dated somebody

00:23:40.680 dated somebody is one month dating as in like going out on dates or like officially locking in uh

00:23:48.620 well it sounds like you haven't had an official lock-in is that correct yeah

00:23:52.460 and then so but I'm assuming you have like

00:23:56.740 you've been on first dates right yes okay and maybe like when you're in college maybe there's a

00:24:05.160 party scene you'd have like sneaky links no no sneaky links no friends with benefits no

00:24:11.320 f buddy no my best friend in college was alcohol I just drank I didn't do anything with guys

00:24:18.320 your best friend in college was alcohol was it just college it extended beyond college I think

00:24:25.560 like when I have you been friends with with alcohol and what's your drink of choice um I think when I

00:24:33.560 turned 25 like this year I started to slow down on the drinking but I think up till 24 I was pretty

00:24:38.600 I'm Korean so they drink pretty yeah um how much were you drinking per week uh like per day

00:24:48.300 not per day not per day yeah are you a solo drinker like wine after work just drink solo like a whole

00:24:55.840 bottle there were times yeah when I was like 22 23 you drink straight from the bottle or you pour it

00:25:01.860 into a glass that's not classy wine glass okay I don't know some people drink wine out of a box

00:25:06.500 no that's like a little depressing that's depressing okay you're not there yet no not yet we're not there

00:25:11.300 I don't want to get there uh but you were you had a long-term monogamous relationship with alcohol

00:25:17.620 I mean sure if you want to put it that way right um so no sneaky links no you were so were you

00:25:28.100 celibate the entire yes you were celibate yeah during college yeah how long you've been celibate for

00:25:34.060 right now the whole time what do you mean the whole time like I I haven't slept with anyone oh you're

00:25:40.520 virgin yeah oh cool okay interesting but you drink heavily not anymore you used to and you go out to

00:25:48.500 bars and clubs yeah I like that I like partying I just don't do anything with guys I enjoy my time

00:25:54.340 with my friends but you you like guys right yes you just haven't found one that you feel is like

00:25:59.020 yeah I just don't want to get attached do you have a type

00:26:01.680 um Oxford study okay um just hey just asking um I like confident men I don't know I don't really

00:26:13.000 have a type I just have to feel it like you got to feel it yeah have you felt it ever because I mean

00:26:19.660 you haven't there's one guy I guess you saw for a month but um yes that was recent but

00:26:26.900 yeah can we move on well so I'm just trying to get a bit of a understanding of kind of the

00:26:34.680 relationship history but so um I mean have you had a first kiss yeah kiss yes okay fair enough and um

00:26:44.020 single whole life okay um

00:26:48.620 and have there been guys that have they been interested in you you just weren't interested in

00:26:55.040 them yes I feel like when I was in college I was a little bit too busy like trying to find a job

00:27:03.240 yeah drinking in the beginning like first two years and then later on it was more so like

00:27:06.740 locking in and finding a job I wasn't really prioritizing dating but I mean you were uh when

00:27:12.580 you were going out to parties you said you went to UC Fullerton uh Cal State Fullerton Cal State

00:27:16.980 Fullerton I don't think there's a UC I was thinking of UC Irvine um Cal State Fullerton

00:27:22.900 is there like a Greek life there I yes but I wasn't in Greek life no sorority or anything no

00:27:31.420 when I was in like my first college because I transferred um because I switched my major

00:27:36.580 I was in a professional fraternity but I wasn't in a sorority okay and um

00:27:44.100 this is unique um how often would you go out to parties though like is it was it a party school

00:27:52.360 like in college yes CS my first school I went to I don't want to drop the name it's a school it's a

00:27:57.980 private school in northern California I partied every week it's in the middle of nowhere so people

00:28:03.000 don't have much to do there except party um but when I was in Cal State Fullerton I didn't party

00:28:07.780 I was just studying to get out of there and graduate got it but um how often would you say

00:28:14.240 in the past year like how frequently do you go out to uh bars or nightclubs like what like when

00:28:20.020 like when I was in CSUF sure or just uh I mean I felt like I went out every weekend like up till

00:28:29.280 this year I've been a little I've been slowing down and are you religious are you waiting until

00:28:34.400 marriage or no I just I just don't want to get attached because I feel like I'm gonna get

00:28:38.520 attached to a guy if I sleep with him and I don't want to get attached and like put my energy into

00:28:44.040 someone who doesn't like me that's all it's not a religious thing can I ask something yeah go ahead

00:28:49.180 do you want to get married yes but I want to get married late like in my 30s

00:28:54.360 okay and uh but you don't want to why don't you want to get attached because I'm gonna get hurt and

00:29:06.400 I would have to invest my energy into someone who doesn't like me uh I don't want to do that okay and

00:29:14.060 but you want to get attached eventually right like to the right guy wouldn't you want to get attached to

00:29:21.640 the right person to the right person all right sure maybe we'll come back to that a little bit

00:29:25.600 but uh what about you um wait what was the question again sorry relationship status I'm single I've been

00:29:32.360 single for two months now okay I just got out of an almost two-year relationship and that has been

00:29:38.220 my longest relationship all right who broke up with who I broke up with him why just tired of his

00:29:45.480 mistakes I guess his mistakes what did he do just you know having a bunch of huh I don't know just

00:29:54.480 pictures in his phone specific pictures pictures in his phone okay texting other girls so he's cheating

00:30:01.920 on you I guess micro cheating I don't know micro cheating micro cheating I wouldn't say like

00:30:09.060 physically cheated but yeah okay sure all right uh darkavia what about you um

00:30:18.100 what was the question relationship status hello um single I've been my longest I have two really

00:30:27.660 long relationships um first one was five years second one was three years but yeah that was the

00:30:34.640 longest two I have only been in two relationships okay what about you I've been single all my life

00:30:41.080 too all right um wait and uh I mean what's the longest period of time you've seen a guy for me

00:30:52.260 personally it was three months um for that one it I really got to know a guy he was super nice a

00:30:58.400 gentleman but it's just our kind of personal beliefs didn't align and yeah how so just there's things

00:31:05.400 in life in terms of like career and everything that I believe in like a two income household

00:31:09.740 um among other things so it just didn't align so so he believed in a he wanted you to like

00:31:17.920 be a stay-at-home yeah which is fine I think that's great if a woman wants to do that that's how long

00:31:23.660 ago was this uh last year it was a year ago okay and was he uh how old was he he was the same age as

00:31:32.060 me 26 at that time and he was desirous of basically a one income household is my understanding yeah did

00:31:38.620 he have the financial means to despite your unwillingness to be in that sort of arrangement

00:31:43.320 did he have the means to no at that time no okay but he wanted it for the future right yes

00:31:50.380 and essentially he probably my understanding would be he wanted you to uh have kids and just

00:31:56.700 stay home and take care of the kids yeah take care of the household and you don't want to do that you

00:32:00.260 want to pursue a career is that fair to say yes but also because in current in the california economy

00:32:05.200 at least I don't think we can afford life and kids yeah especially if I wanted more than one like

00:32:10.720 I would we would be broke well if he um let's say you met a guy who was let's say you made a million

00:32:16.360 a year I'm sure even in the most expensive part of california that would uh enable you to be a

00:32:23.420 single income household would that be a bit more uh I think that's a different scenario so yes I'd

00:32:30.540 discuss it with him um but with my experience of dating and the people that I've dated so far I think

00:32:36.340 I it has to be a double income household okay yeah yeah I just want to ask you a question um

00:32:42.640 since that's your perspective how you feel about um who takes upon the responsibility to the home

00:32:47.840 do you feel like you should be split 70 30 like how would you approach that I think it shouldn't

00:32:52.360 be a percentage it should be more consideration for the other person like for example like I have

00:32:57.280 my busy seasons at work like if I'm not home until 10 p.m because I'm working I don't want to go home

00:33:02.460 and cook dinner because first of all he's probably already asleep so like that's obviously not going

00:33:06.660 to happen I would really appreciate it if he did something for me versus if he's going

00:33:10.560 something through something I'll obviously be taking more of the workload more of the chores

00:33:14.680 everything but what about like the bills of the home like rent like who you how you distribute that

00:33:19.960 50 50 for that yeah I understand okay all right um and then you were seeing this guy for three months

00:33:27.020 um so are you also a virgin like your friend or okay all right and is this are you waiting until

00:33:39.400 marriage or what's going on with that I just don't feel comfortable with it so I think with the right

00:33:45.000 person it'll be comfortable but until then let's just say I'm waiting until marriage waiting until

00:33:51.520 marriage okay um interesting all right and uh although it sounds like if you were to meet the

00:33:58.160 right guy and you guys aligned in terms of your values and you were comfortable with him

00:34:01.940 you would have sex prior to marriage yeah okay all right so it's not like it's not for religious

00:34:10.360 reasons some people are christian or whatever they would want to wait yeah I think it's nice to have

00:34:15.780 a timeline just for that like goal setting so to speak but I think sexual compatibility finding that

00:34:21.800 out before marriage is very important because divorce is such a pain in the ass oh sorry no that's

00:34:27.020 fine um do you think though um do you think it's going to be difficult to find a guy who's willing

00:34:37.620 to wait that long because I mean typically my my impression is when it comes to men who are like

00:34:44.160 willing to wait they're typically going to lean a bit more traditional a bit more conservative uh which

00:34:50.640 might be a conflict I'm a is it safe to say you're a bit more progressive a bit more liberal

00:34:56.600 yes and you you are more you're more desirous of pursuing your career uh do you think that

00:35:03.580 that's going to introduce potential uh difficulties for you I think yes and which is totally fine it

00:35:10.120 just means that person isn't for me so I feel like probably more progressive liberal men who are

00:35:16.520 open to the 50 50 thing are probably not going to be on board with the like oh let's wait

00:35:23.620 until marriage thing good for them not for me but good for them fair enough yeah all right well

00:35:28.880 oh you have you have something um real quick um I think that um it'll be strange for a man to not

00:35:35.200 respect a woman who's actually a virgin because it's like if a woman is a virgin I think a lot of times

00:35:39.860 when cats don't want to wait it's because they feel like she's been with other men but if she's

00:35:43.440 actually a virgin in today's time I think a reasonable man should respect that because she's

00:35:48.880 actually the virgin that a lot of men say they want so I don't see why people have a pushback

00:35:54.500 with that because it's hard to wait for a woman who's giving herself to somebody else but if she

00:35:57.980 actually waited and haven't had sex I think she can get that off

00:36:01.280 um I'm currently single my longest relationship was almost three years and

00:36:11.340 what was the last part I'm so sorry sorry you've been single for how long I've been single for

00:36:17.620 technically like seven months eight months all right the three-year relationship who ended

00:36:26.120 the uh relationship the three-year one uh I ended it okay uh Eric what about you

00:36:33.260 it's only it's only been a month man I'm still single bro I'm still single man all right

00:36:38.600 longest relationship um my longest relationship was I would say six years

00:36:45.620 all right cool that's uh everybody's relationship status you know what kind of this is interesting

00:36:51.980 uh I have you guys seen this has been going viral on tiktok russian men versus american men have you

00:37:00.120 guys seen that I don't have it pulled up damien but maybe you can try to find it it's uh tiktok

00:37:05.680 russian men versus american men what is it like going 50 50 I think is the topic that could be an

00:37:13.360 interesting kind of segue on some of this stuff I'm trying to find the actual uh clip though I'm

00:37:20.840 gonna see if I can find it guys give me just one sec tiktok not logged in scuffed can you try to find

00:37:27.080 it on uh over there on your end I posted the video so I could find it pretty easily if you want me to get

00:37:32.680 um you don't have your phone oh no it's still tts monster what the fuck hold on guys what the

00:37:44.420 fuck absolutely scuffed one sec guys sorry dude oh my god not sure why it's bugged like this boys

00:37:52.960 one sec guys

00:37:57.940 what could that be

00:38:01.640 do you have it

00:38:06.780 uh would it be american men versus russian men on relationship education

00:38:10.500 yeah

00:38:11.180 large labial missile donated two hundred dollars thank you

00:38:17.320 hey ladies do you feel bad when the more attractive feminists talk about their terrible

00:38:22.440 experiences with catcalling and you have nothing to share also name three countries bro that's crazy

00:38:30.100 uh name three okay fuck it name three countries going around the table go ahead

00:38:34.800 um mexico can you tilt your mic down it's just really it's really low I'm sorry don't worry

00:38:42.480 trust me the audio is coming through fine just trust me um mexico paraguay uruguay

00:38:47.860 paraguay uruguay okay okay usa mexico and canada okay usa well don't repeat the ones they just you

00:38:59.780 gotta pick a new country pick a new country I went first you can't repeat a country how about that

00:39:03.620 I'm just gonna stick to my roots uh south korea japan china I don't know any countries I'm sorry

00:39:09.800 you I'm so slow you are super fast don't I'm so sorry you don't don't you okay go ahead try

00:39:18.280 go ahead um Germany man don't help her out go ahead um yep Germany it's gonna be like

00:39:27.020 can we say Canada already because I've been somebody already said it

00:39:30.040 damn USA already said it damn I don't know here let me help yeah pick African countries

00:39:40.460 that should help if you kind of zone in on the continent I think it can help African countries

00:39:47.960 three just three what wow how about um European countries that's easier that's a bit easier

00:39:58.900 three European countries I don't think anybody's named any no huh Europe is a continent no name

00:40:05.260 three European countries I don't remember the last time I learned about this stuff I'm sorry

00:40:08.740 Italy mm-hmm and um that's one oh I thought I had one Germany oh yeah sure Germany okay and um

00:40:20.900 England yep beautiful darkavia what about you uh Egypt yep um

00:40:30.180 Norway yep and Ireland boom beautiful what about you Taiwan um Argentina and Portugal all right

00:40:43.760 um um Barcelona Spain I'm sorry Barcelona uh Israel okay and it's another one uh

00:40:54.320 the Philippines there you have it boom there you have it folks okay all right thank you for the uh

00:41:01.040 TTS I do appreciate it um where were we oh do you have the video there's a viral

00:41:08.120 what oh no that's the the dude ranting about it can you find the actual video oh my god all right sorry

00:41:20.520 guys one sec we're trying to get this going do you have it

00:41:26.680 hello

00:41:35.400 hello

00:41:35.480 all right okay um I'll just move it on then if we can't find it sorry guys um

00:41:46.440 all right I'm just gonna get into the pre-show notes then uh if you can find it let me know but

00:41:52.880 all right we have uh Michelle Michelle you had a terrible first tinder date in college who ended

00:41:58.280 up becoming a huge tiktok star yes uh can you say who no I don't what do they do how about that

00:42:05.200 are they like one of those dancing I think he does like skits I honestly don't know I muted him

00:42:10.240 so I don't really know I think he does like comedy skits though okay all right yeah um you said

00:42:17.760 modern dating is a joke and dating apps are only for people who want to hook up or get attention

00:42:23.280 yes now I'm curious I guess to you two you guys are both friends maybe both kind of find yourselves

00:42:29.600 in the same boat when it comes to dating um I would be curious like to learn about and we'll open up to

00:42:34.960 the whole panel but would let you guys go first uh what's your type so what are you looking for in

00:42:41.040 a guy you can list like physical traits you can list personality this sort of thing um

00:42:50.240 I don't know it's just my can you hear me yeah okay um it's really hard to answer this question

00:42:57.520 because I really go off like the vibe that they give off like I would have to meet them in person

00:43:04.640 but like I said earlier I like someone who radiates confident energy someone who's comfortable in their own

00:43:09.600 skin but isn't cocky and that's like really hard to find okay but I have met someone or people like

00:43:16.720 that you have met people like that very not a lot but I have previously and did you given that this

00:43:24.240 seems to be would you say that this is the like ultimate thing you're looking for in a partner yes

00:43:31.280 okay given that this is something that's extremely rare you've only come across it a few times did

00:43:37.920 you like actively pursue these men who did have it no I don't I've never pursued someone okay um

00:43:46.800 like pursue as in like slide in their dms or like go up to them did you meet them in person or what was

00:43:52.720 the nature of um the last person I met I actually met him on an app which is ironic because I wrote that

00:43:58.960 um I'm only on one dating app and it was like the last shot that I was giving but yeah I met him on an

00:44:05.200 app um did you meet up in person for a date or yeah did he have that that thing in person yes okay

00:44:14.800 and how many dates did you with this guy yeah was this the one month guy yes okay um how many individual

00:44:22.320 times did you hang out with him I think like six or seven times okay and then I guess why did it

00:44:30.080 not continue what happened there um it's kind of a long story but I had a series of unfortunate

00:44:39.440 events happen in my life recently that I don't want to get too into but uh yeah we don't need the

00:44:44.640 details he and it's okay that he wasn't really there for me because we've only known each other for a

00:44:50.560 month but he was giving me like unnecessary emotional stress that I didn't need so I just

00:44:56.640 thought the timing of it wasn't right and I just he was he was giving you like he wasn't really

00:45:02.560 checking up on me um when I was going through like really big life changes was he aware of these life

00:45:09.200 yes he was and I was very vulnerable with him too and I told him that you know like I'm going through

00:45:14.160 all this right now so if you you know aren't there for me I'd rather just not move forward

00:45:20.560 um and he didn't and so it's okay and I saw I was like okay I just don't think I have the

00:45:26.240 emotional capacity to date right now with so much going on in my life all right would you uh

00:45:31.520 would you say he was a narcissist no I don't think so no okay um so I guess going back to the question

00:45:40.160 like what's your type um are there any other things that you're kind of looking for besides just like the

00:45:47.360 five and confidence I guess um someone who has ambition okay always like driven is very hot to

00:45:53.760 me um do you have like any specific questions or characteristic traits that you uh can you be

00:46:01.360 shorter than you I have been with guys who are five seven ideally I would like someone taller because

00:46:06.800 I'm tall I'm like five eight and a half okay um but I have been with guys who are five seven but

00:46:13.280 I wouldn't want to go below five seven to be honest all right and like you'll date any race

00:46:19.680 yeah I'm pretty open all right I feel like I've dated like every race or like been out

00:46:24.480 yeah what I guess what percent of men that you've like encountered either on the apps or in person or

00:46:31.040 whatever would you say like meet your baseline like I'm into this guy like as in like I'll swipe

00:46:38.880 like like either in person or yeah like I would be attracted to them initially yeah

00:46:45.280 um did you ask percentage sure yeah we can do percent I'm gonna say like

00:46:52.160 just physical attraction mm-hmm like 50 50 percent yeah okay but then you they open their mouth yes

00:47:00.640 and that drops them most of the time or or on the flip side it could increase their attraction

00:47:08.960 or attractiveness um but usually it's the other way around fair enough okay and then uh what about

00:47:15.840 you I guess what are some of the things you're looking for physically personality wise personality

00:47:22.000 wise it's a lot of I mentioned this before but consideration 100 consideration for his family

00:47:27.920 consideration for people around him his friends everything I think that speaks a lot to who a

00:47:32.640 person is but also spatial awareness if he doesn't notice like somebody barreling at him I kind of feel

00:47:37.840 like maybe not kind of thing uh wait if he doesn't notice somebody barreling at him yeah like if somebody

00:47:45.120 is like walking fast like move out of the way for that person kind of thing don't like take up the

00:47:49.120 whole street and in the first place don't even take up a lot of space in the street move to the side

00:47:54.160 if you need to stop I see but that's fair yeah spatial awareness I just it's like I don't even

00:48:00.080 understand what you're talking about I get it I get it yeah no walk down the street yeah take up the

00:48:05.680 whole street it's because I go to a lot of events like music events where a lot of people just stand

00:48:11.520 in one place and take up like the whole entire street and don't not the street but like the lane

00:48:16.560 instead of moving forward like for example Disneyland they don't move forward they just keep on standing

00:48:20.320 there until there's like a 10 feet gap and then they're like oh time for me to go forward it's

00:48:24.800 that kind of thing it's valid just spatial awareness consideration for others maybe it doesn't fall

00:48:30.080 under spatial awareness but I think it's uh what about like you know I kind of I kind of understand

00:48:36.160 that you know what really grinds my gears is when like there's a sidewalk and there's a big group of

00:48:41.920 people and they're walking like five abreast okay five abreast listen here's the rule

00:48:47.760 if you're in a group of five it has to be two two maybe three but you can't be like

00:48:56.480 five in a fucking row three three pisses me off too three three no three pisses me off it needs to

00:49:02.320 be two two or one acceptable also if you're on the sidewalk it has to be the same as on the like

00:49:08.640 in a roadway if you're walking depend uh you got to be on your right you have to be walking on your

00:49:15.280 right you know what I mean yeah people be walking on the left but they're it doesn't it's

00:49:21.040 up man you know what i'm saying it's gonna be the same i get it i get it in fact i break up with women

00:49:28.080 all the time because of this all the time yeah if i'm on the first date with a girl and she's just

00:49:33.120 kind of meandering and like she's on her phone instant breakup i get it if she is in the wrong

00:49:39.440 lane when walking instant breakup i'll just walk the i'll just turn around do 180 be like

00:49:47.600 deuces honestly like i feel like it's common sense like yeah it's like not having common

00:49:52.560 sense common sense is a turn off yeah anything else for you that you're looking for in a guy besides

00:49:59.760 spatial uh i think physically my type is like a buzz cut with tattoos but all the guys i've dated have

00:50:07.200 not had that so buzz cut tattoos tattoos okay yeah all right huh you meet a lot of uh accountants with

00:50:17.760 buzz cuts surprisingly yes but yeah the accountants are tatted up yeah would you date a guy with a face

00:50:23.520 tat how about that no yeah no not a face time okay that's a hard one to introduce to ma ma and pa what

00:50:30.400 about the tribal thing that goes up half the neck you know on one side i think that's fine oh that's

00:50:36.000 fine yeah all right if it extends down to the neck but if it starts and stops on the face then no

00:50:41.760 okay uh going around the table what's everybody's type you can just say like one physical trait

00:50:46.400 and then like one personality trait go ahead uh tall tall okay tall how tall uh six seven and up

00:50:57.040 shut up come on come on i'm being serious remember that i told you that my ex was six two so the guy

00:51:06.880 has to be six two okay well i met somebody who was six seven i'm not seeing him anymore so everybody now

00:51:13.840 has to be six seven and up so i can stunt on him you to stunt yeah you want to stunt yeah i want to

00:51:20.560 be like see bitch i can do better somebody taller so let me ask you if you meet somebody that's like

00:51:26.080 seven feet and i don't fall off then you're gonna find somebody seven too like what is this stop like

00:51:31.200 where do we go with it it keeps going up okay i'm kidding i'm kidding um if i'm being realistic

00:51:37.520 maybe like i don't know i i honestly like tall guys but everybody's taller than me so okay i don't

00:51:43.600 know how tall are you i'm five two oh come on yeah everyone's taller than me i haven't met anyone

00:51:49.760 and then uh personality personality personality i really like them douchey and cocky to be honest

00:51:58.880 so it's like andrew you're oh him no he's cocky he's he's old he's wrinkly he has a

00:52:09.200 hey why are you trying to get me to hook up with fat chicks all the time oh boy

00:52:12.000 what the fuck fuck you you have a wife and kids you shouldn't be worrying about other girls

00:52:20.320 i don't know i mean you're the one worrying about how i look

00:52:24.000 i said you had wrinkles okay yeah and you're like 300 pounds okay i'm not 300 pounds

00:52:32.560 i feel bad for the chair you're sitting in right now it's terrible

00:52:35.600 oh sucks i feel bad for your wife and kids oh i mean i feel a lot worse for that chair than you

00:52:42.720 should feel for my wife and kids great start guys good job good job to both of you all right moving

00:52:49.520 on what about you um i like guys who are athletic and like go to the gym okay and then for personality

00:52:56.480 wise i like men who act like men or like a gentleman like open the door for me make me feel feminine

00:53:01.360 okay uh anything else on that front like like men who act like men yeah open the open the door

00:53:11.280 i feel like it doesn't take a lot of effort to open the door either it should just come natural as well

00:53:17.120 just come natural okay um i guess what is um

00:53:23.360 so do you think that men they're not acting that way some of the guys i've dated or like have talked to

00:53:29.600 don't so initially when i'm picked up i expect them to open the door so if they don't that's

00:53:34.720 already like a red flag that i know down in my mind it's not something that i'm like mad about but

00:53:40.480 it's something that i think about i see okay um can you list off any other things that would men should

00:53:49.920 do i think it's really good if you're family oriented like i don't like men who don't really

00:53:55.280 care about their family or don't do things to help their family so when they are family oriented i

00:54:00.400 find that really attractive okay family oriented okay all right what about you oh do i go again i

00:54:07.520 guess no you already gave so we'll just what about you i like a man who has good music taste and okay

00:54:15.600 um just a guy who's taller than me i guess how tall are you uh five three okay what's good music taste

00:54:22.320 well i guess like really like my music taste i guess that's good music well i don't really like

00:54:32.240 guys who listen to a lot of rap or i don't know i like more of like bands like rock bands or stuff

00:54:41.760 like that so can i ask you a question how does music taste equate to a good mate in your eyes

00:54:48.720 well i didn't think about it that way i just like a man with good music taste so we can like vibe

00:54:53.680 together instead of like oh i don't really like your music and i like listening to music a lot so

00:54:59.680 i would want him to vibe with me as well i feel that but how does that bleed into

00:55:04.640 like a relationship because you could i could like somebody who got the same music taste that

00:55:08.400 don't mean they're a good girlfriend you know what i'm saying it's just music

00:55:11.280 well i just feel like music means like a lot to me so

00:55:14.000 wait so if they're like super ugly but they have your exact same taste in music like you're gonna

00:55:18.960 hit no oh okay so then no no no yeah like that's not enough right wouldn't that just be a cherry on

00:55:27.200 top like i guess yeah i mean but like would you pass on a dude who everything else was good but like

00:55:34.480 he listened to i don't know uh classical music well i'll try to make him like put him i'll try to put

00:55:39.760 him on the music i like nah he's like fuck this shit oh then fuck this shit well that would suck

00:55:45.840 i don't know that would suck it's suck yeah but he's perfect in every other way well not perfect

00:55:50.800 enough i guess perfect everything else but he just doesn't listen to what do you listen to uh listen

00:55:57.840 what's your go-to right now radio head okay deaf tones oh okay all right i thought she's gonna say

00:56:05.600 like britney spears or something or like rap do you do rap or just no oh she's like pearl jam

00:56:13.680 i like allison chains i like i love allison stone temple pilots i don't know them all right get on it

00:56:19.280 okay get on it get with the program all right okay what's up um my type like i have preference which

00:56:26.880 are asians but honestly i'd go for anything but i also like men that are mean but not mean to me but

00:56:33.440 mean to other people but nice to you yeah because i'm a very i'm very dominant in what comes with

00:56:38.240 relationships so i have to like also have um kind of a man that is also this could be a submissive i

00:56:46.480 should say i should say yeah but so it's like yeah but not like that it's just very someone like i'm

00:56:52.880 like go do that and they'll just go do it like a golden rich river boy yeah like a little yes yes

00:56:59.440 that's how i am but like i wanted to be like that in public he's not like that in public he's

00:57:03.840 a more like he's like he'll tell someone to fuck off you know what i mean he's dominant like a man

00:57:09.040 tough with everybody else but your little your little pet yeah yeah good luck not my pet i was

00:57:13.680 like i was just like i want a man to do anything i tell them to do but that then he's not a man then

00:57:18.320 no he's my man but a man but i'm saying but a man a man don't just do what you say okay i guess i

00:57:24.400 i have okay i like to wear the pants in a relationship that's what i like to say i'm

00:57:28.080 really but that's can you i don't think that's what a man would like a real man ain't gonna do

00:57:33.280 that yeah okay well that's not my problem i will find the right one but i will actually i do have

00:57:38.320 the right one right now temporarily wait i thought you said you're single i am single is it the five

00:57:46.000 do you realize that the count that the that the opposite of wearing the pants in the relationship

00:57:50.000 means that the other person's wearing the dress in the relationship right like that's what

00:57:53.280 that means is that yeah but like i only said as like a metaphor like i don't like yeah i know

00:57:57.840 i'm telling you the entailment of the metaphor is that if you wear the pants in the relationship

00:58:01.120 you're saying whoever you're with wears the dress that that's that's just that's kind of like

00:58:06.320 that means your dude wears the dress that's what that means okay

00:58:14.400 but yeah no i just like i just like i'm dominant like you know what i mean i just i just am but i'm like

00:58:21.680 i feel like if anything he'll look good in the dress so and some guys like that i literally i

00:58:26.720 promise you if i told someone to put a dress on they would put a dress on some guys like that stuff

00:58:30.800 no it's just the truth is excuse me it's because you're attractive so a lot of dudes don't stand on

00:58:36.240 real business so they feel like since she's cute i'll acquiesce to her because they'd rather deal with

00:58:41.200 you than to be by themselves but real men i'm just telling you what it is ain't no real man gonna do

00:58:48.080 that but a lot of pretty girls you'll have that privilege well a lot of guys they're scared to

00:58:52.240 lose you so they'll do whatever you tell them to do no i have something to add okay so everybody

00:58:57.600 likes to argue oh a real man won't do this a real man won't do that um a 25 year old is a man i'm not

00:59:06.320 going to call him otherwise that is a man that is a grown ass man yeah i'm not calling him a boy i'm

00:59:11.920 not going to call him anything else that's a grown ass man biologically a man isn't a metaphor no but

00:59:17.440 we talk about with a man listen if you're a 25 year old man and you let somebody come and push you in

00:59:21.840 the face yeah you're a man biologically but you're not a man in real life so what i'm telling you is

00:59:25.840 a real man who really has dominance who really wants to have some type of authority is not going

00:59:30.720 to let his girl just tell him what to do and ultimately she's not going to even get but it's not

00:59:34.480 about telling them what to do it's about compromise i'm talking about that that's that's what you're saying

00:59:39.200 she said dominate so dominate and compromise two different words so based on her you can be

00:59:43.280 dominant and compromising no no yeah like i can also be that i could be so you're also talking

00:59:48.160 from a woman's perspective as well but you're also taking i'm pretty sure you're describing your own

00:59:52.400 personality right as the man you are right no i'm saying just in general like men that i know that

00:59:58.720 quote unquote are what men that you know yeah women that are the type of men that y'all like that

01:00:03.920 you're attracted to are not going to let you do that now that's why wouldn't they i'm like i'm

01:00:08.720 basically i'm their woman they should do what i'm to make me happy happy home happy wife happy

01:00:13.120 home no happy fan happy us it ain't just about y'all yeah no but exactly but at the end of the day

01:00:18.880 it's they could do whatever they want but they're at the like if i'm with them and they're with me

01:00:24.000 and like because i like something and out of respect they will do that for example opening a door

01:00:29.120 simply because it's respectful yeah that's regular but you said dominate yeah that's different and not

01:00:33.760 dominate like i'm not fucking pegging a dude i guess i want to try it she wants to try it

01:00:43.840 i'm experimental hold on go ahead that's a real man i think no we bought men who act like men but

01:00:49.200 what she's trying to say is like a soft spot a man who has a soft spot for her and who listens to her

01:00:54.720 she just escalated to pegging so what i'm saying is the type i'm just saying i hear what i understand

01:00:59.920 compromise i understand it's a team it's not all about the man it's not all about the woman but

01:01:05.120 some women want to break a man and want to dominate him what do you mean and they're looking for i'm

01:01:09.840 telling you what i mean i didn't say you did it just i said i have a dominant personality and i have a

01:01:15.440 dominance like and you want to try to peg a dude like that's i said i want to try it who like i that's

01:01:21.040 because i i'm experimental like i literally have tried and i just feel like any dude that lets you do

01:01:24.880 that it's a different kind of guy man i don't know if that's a masculine man i'm sorry if you

01:01:30.240 love the bitch you would do it too i would have donated 200 dollars chair five you have no assets

01:01:36.960 physically to be demanding so much sit down and mind your business you want to respond like what am i

01:01:43.600 asking for so much i literally just ask for a man that is sensitive or and has an ability to literally

01:01:50.720 listen i guess but that's just that's just my how i have a preference and it worked out with me

01:01:55.760 till till today so is that is that a deal breaker if you don't want to get pegged by you would you

01:02:00.480 leave them for that no absolutely it's not like a thing it's like yes i like assertive men i do but

01:02:05.600 it has to be also a boundary where i'm not going to be i'm don't tell me what to do because you're

01:02:09.760 not that's not where we're going to roll with that like don't say you're going to tell him what to

01:02:12.720 do yes because i i'm very i'm yes like i'm i'm a very assertive but i can also be very

01:02:17.600 submissive submissive but like i'm when it comes to that like don't tell me to go do the dishes

01:02:22.480 because i'm not doing that i will go tell your ass go do it so what do you tell him to do i would

01:02:27.120 no i would tell like for example like i would i would literally just be like hey go go grab my

01:02:32.160 laundry or like i would like hey or you could start the washer like tough stuff like that so why

01:02:36.080 he can't say go do the dishes what's the difference because like i'm like it depends on like okay maybe

01:02:40.960 i'm like a narcissist whatever like that maybe i'm okay i probably am a narcissist but what else are

01:02:46.720 you that bitch no what what's the what's the other diagnosis what's the other diagnosis oh i'm um

01:02:56.720 i'm a diagnosed schizophrenic so that could also play partner okay all right um do you have more or i

01:03:05.920 think i mean do you think say god forbid say if something happened to you and um you went through

01:03:11.360 some type of disfigurement you would still have that same bravado you think you'll still get that same

01:03:15.120 response for men if you didn't look how you look uh no probably not honestly but i would also have

01:03:22.240 the mindset that i have now like i i really am you still be dominant with yes like i would still have

01:03:28.080 that type of um mindset for it when it comes to that so i wouldn't change personally but i would

01:03:33.840 see that how the men would see me differently and would probably not be so you know willing i should

01:03:39.680 say oh you're so full of shit the last show you were here you were talking about how a dude came

01:03:46.080 out and met with you who was like gonna do take some pictures or something was that you is that the

01:03:50.800 same same and then he ended up dating him and he cheated on you like 17 times is that the same

01:03:55.280 chick brian am i crazy same yeah it's her it happens yeah it's the same chick right it's like it's like

01:04:00.880 you're so dominant your dude cheated on you okay but yes but he like okay yes that happened

01:04:05.680 give me a fucking break okay but yes that happened but yes but he is very like

01:04:09.920 i'll that that man is my bitch like i'm not lying he does do it he does do that cheating

01:04:15.280 shit but when he's at home that man yeah that man would do anything i say literally he's at home

01:04:22.560 you couldn't you couldn't but he still cheated on you you couldn't keep him at home he cheated on you 17

01:04:27.280 times but like those but how i but i described cheating as him going into other people's dms and

01:04:32.400 calling them beautiful and stuff like he's not out there he's not out there fucking you said he

01:04:37.120 was plowing other chicks that's i never said that he doesn't know you did say that no i didn't

01:04:43.200 you did run it back where's the clip you don't think he trying to hit you don't think he hit

01:04:46.480 nothing if he put dm in chicks that they're beautiful you think that's all it's staying at

01:04:49.680 that i don't really care bro hey my nigga now oh he's not your dude no more no oh so what so so

01:04:57.200 how many dudes you've met that like agree to this stipulation that you put on this this you wear the

01:05:01.360 pants is it working yeah it works a lot a lot they don't show me work once yeah no like it happens

01:05:07.520 because like when they when they're really into you they're just kind of that means it's happening

01:05:10.960 then you lose them you get them like you keep gaining new guys that agree to this yeah but like

01:05:15.120 it's not like i've only actually dated two people but yeah those two long relationships i've been in

01:05:19.040 were successful because i how they successful they ended and i broke up with them oh why because

01:05:25.280 the first one i was with for five years i moved to california not long after i met my other ex

01:05:29.520 i was with for three years and i broke up with him because so y'all just y'all broke up because

01:05:33.440 of distance or you just yeah i broke up with him because i was moving okay yeah so what about the

01:05:37.200 next guy yeah i broke up with him because he was cheating oh okay so so but she wears a pants you

01:05:42.960 see like yeah but i'm not gonna go if a guy wants to but a guy if a guy wants to go cheat no matter

01:05:49.040 what you do you could have him like if you if a guy's gonna go cheat he's gonna go cheat no matter

01:05:53.760 what you do like it's you can't stop it you can't like you were in control to me sounds like

01:05:58.720 he at the house i was but you can't you can't help like when somebody's gonna go out and do whatever

01:06:03.200 they want like that's not me but when you have my house like well that's that's what i mean you

01:06:07.600 could help it if you were actually in control well well you can't help a man that wants to cheat

01:06:13.200 bro like you really can't stop that actually in control that's my point men are very different

01:06:18.400 yes behind closed doors you have the illusion of control you don't have any control no men are so

01:06:23.760 different behind other chicks like what are you talking about you don't have any control here

01:06:29.600 you have but you have no power here no power at all okay he's able to do basically whatever okay but

01:06:37.680 then he gets to go back and hook up with you after anyway what does he care i sound like he

01:06:40.880 playing the game he definitely sound like he playing to your advantage and then go when you

01:06:44.400 are yeah yeah exactly but that but that was him you know i mean like like i've been with other people

01:06:48.640 that do play that part like i have been with other men i've been with women that also like that so it's

01:06:54.080 not like it's not like oh yeah but i'm also saying when you say controlling like when you i'm controlling

01:07:00.480 him that's not what i'm doing it's just that like i'm i'm very assertive like i like i have a very uh

01:07:06.000 that bitch mindset you know i mean so like when it i like men that respect that like you know i

01:07:10.640 mean like i don't know you're that bitch no not that i'm saying like it's a mindset you know i

01:07:15.280 mean like i'm it's really hard to explain but i like men that accept that but i'm not saying oh

01:07:20.400 i'm like gonna pull this man by his hair and be like listen to me like i'm not like that that's

01:07:24.720 not why i'm being by controlling at all i just like men that listen literally just listen that's

01:07:29.680 all i'm trying to say like i like men that listen sound like you need a child man oh hell no no

01:07:36.320 i don't know it sounds like you need a pet i don't know i mean we all need to listen to each

01:07:39.520 other but it's the way you say it it sounds like you just yeah i know what it sounds like that's

01:07:43.120 i'm trying to correct that's not what i'm but how you guys are spinning my words like crazy i said it

01:07:46.880 sound like i said it okay let me add something men always want a bad bitch and then when they finally

01:07:53.840 get a bad bitch they can't handle her that's not what men want yes it is no it's not it is men always

01:07:59.840 want the baddest are you a man no but i hear men always say oh i want the baddest bitch i want this

01:08:05.760 bitch i want the bitch who's a 10 out of 10 i want i want an arm candy i want you don't hear men yes

01:08:11.520 because men men look for status they want a woman for status no we don't yes they do okay but yes they

01:08:19.760 do men that y'all watch on television like i hate to repeat myself but it's the men that you are focused

01:08:25.760 on which is celebrity minded mainstream media push men everyday men i'm a man i'm telling you i'm 39

01:08:33.040 years old i'm not trying to disrespect y'all none but i'm telling you y'all looking at men in a certain

01:08:37.440 sector of reality which is not the everyday man the everyday man don't care about your status

01:08:42.160 based on the conversation i had from these women the men that i know what they appeal to is what these

01:08:48.000 two young ladies was talking about someone more conservative more serving saving themselves don't

01:08:52.640 no man want a bad bitch he want he may want to have sex with that but as far as a woman that he

01:08:57.840 wants to be with long term and submit some type of vulnerability to it's not a bad bitch trust me

01:09:04.080 yeah but i'm not walking around i'm not walking around i ain't talking about you i'm just talking

01:09:07.600 about whatever you call a bad okay men don't want that do you think 23 22 21 24 year old women are

01:09:14.560 looking for a husband right now i know no we we are not looking for husbands right now you were

01:09:19.360 talking about what the men want and you're saying yeah do you think the men are looking for a husband

01:09:23.760 right or for a wife right now absolutely not men do not want to commit right now you said you to a

01:09:29.120 bad bitch yeah yeah but you were saying that they want oh my god hold on they you said that they were

01:09:33.760 wanting a woman with status they do they know they want to no that's not what i said sorry i said they

01:09:39.840 want a woman to add to their status they want a woman you just changed your entire no that's what she said

01:09:45.360 that she's no she said no she said i said they want a woman for status that's what i said yeah

01:09:50.720 talkers maybe yeah but i like they want they want a pretty girl okay a man does not want a convention

01:09:58.480 would this add to hit to a man's status an attractive feminine submissive woman or a bad

01:10:03.920 bitch what you can be a bad bitch either or can be a bad bitch a submissive woman can be a bad

01:10:10.320 bitch anyone talking about it she could be a housewife and still be a bad exactly i've met

01:10:15.200 plenty most women who are self-proclaimed bad bitches are not no no no let me like 39 a bad

01:10:21.200 bitch is not a criteria i noticed they didn't call themselves that you can do anything and be a bad

01:10:27.360 bitch i'm just saying most women who call themselves bad bitches most of the time no i said i have a bad

01:10:33.360 bitch mindset i'm not talking about y'all i'm just saying most women who use that in general when they say

01:10:38.000 that okay yeah that's that's i wasn't i was trying to find the right word but like the best way i could

01:10:42.480 explain it at that time was a bad bitch mindset but it's like um it's just confidence yeah it's

01:10:47.280 confidence like it's like i'm a very confident mindset like you know i mean but it's that's why

01:10:50.880 you said i'm probably a narcissist yeah the thing is the thing is men hate a confident woman when

01:10:56.320 you're a confident woman automatically you're a bitch you're a bitch yes are you kidding me let's go

01:11:02.560 back to the first podcast i was on mld i don't know his first name but mld was so mad when i

01:11:10.320 called him out on being insecure he hated a confident woman he hated that i spoke out to him

01:11:14.960 calling a man insecure don't make you confident though that doesn't mean that you're confident

01:11:18.560 that just means you're confident enough to talk crazy to a man or talk call him out his name i can

01:11:22.240 talk crazy but that doesn't equate to really confidence okay what does confidence mean to you

01:11:27.440 them confidence is when you can be a feminine woman without all this extra and be fit why feminine

01:11:32.000 yes you ask me a question let me ask you guys let him talk go ahead a confident woman to me is a

01:11:37.280 woman who don't got to say the she just shows up in that spirit in that energy she's soft-spoken

01:11:42.720 because contrary to popular belief true power is not in let everybody know you in here because a

01:11:49.120 beautiful woman ain't got to do all that her presence is powerful enough those insecure women they

01:11:53.520 gotta scream they gotta shout they gotta say i'm a bad bitch hear me war that doesn't

01:11:57.120 scream confidence to me it screams insecurity the confident woman is really modest she's really

01:12:02.160 soft-spoken but if you engage her she has a lot to say but she doesn't carry that on her sleeve

01:12:06.480 in my opinion to me a confident woman is not determined through presence and what she delivers

01:12:12.880 through presence it's through action and how she i guess has an effect on others in the world and if she

01:12:21.920 has that positive confident mindset i've grown up surrounded by bad bitches that are completely

01:12:28.480 different women different from women from different backgrounds women that are with different careers

01:12:33.600 and they're all bad bitches to me

01:12:40.080 honestly so what's a bad bitch i don't know a confident woman who takes no

01:12:46.640 shit no i think i think a bad bitch is a confident woman you don't take no shit from no man yeah

01:12:51.200 exactly no or no bitch in the eye of the beholder because how i don't think confidence i don't think

01:12:55.760 yeah because how i grew up like i'm very i'm like a very like loud person like but that's just how

01:13:00.640 simply how i grew up but i'm not like i'm not out of like person like publicly saying out loud like oh

01:13:07.360 i'm that bitch i'm not i'm like that bitch like like no i'm not like that but like this is the way

01:13:12.160 how i think i'm in my head like confidently i'm basically for lack of a better word you use bad

01:13:16.560 bitch mentality basically yes because i can't think of the right word that's what i said but

01:13:20.640 that's the best way to be confident it could be you know yeah but like it's different audacious you're

01:13:25.760 putting you're saying that women should be soft-spoken and feminine no i said what i you can do what the

01:13:31.120 you want i'm talking about what i deem as a confident woman is even as a confident man i don't think

01:13:36.800 confident people make it so clear i think confident people are very um cool in their spot they don't

01:13:43.120 have to scream and holler i'm here like to me that breeds insecurity okay so what a confident

01:13:48.560 man do you think a confident man takes charge when he has to okay what about a confident woman does

01:13:54.320 she take take charge um exactly no you gotta let me see that's what i'm saying you're just talking

01:14:04.240 over people that's that's not confidence at all i'm sorry but i thought because i like to think

01:14:07.920 before i speak so that's why i took a second so you asked me does that mean a comp a woman is

01:14:11.760 confident depends on the scenario because you could speak up because someone had to tell you

01:14:15.680 to sit your ass down so just because you don't you could be doing the most and the man say hey

01:14:19.200 sweetheart can you calm down you can but i'm not even talking about you so y'all it ain't about you

01:14:26.400 relax i'm talking about in general you said what's the confident woman so what i'm saying is if a man

01:14:31.600 say if someone is out of line even if a woman got a checker it could be a woman got a checker or a man

01:14:35.760 got a checker if a woman's out of line acting a certain way in a restaurant whatever

01:14:39.360 and they does the man or the woman say excuse me man can you calm down chill out and she gets buck

01:14:44.720 and say i ain't got to do nothing in her mind she's a confident woman but in my mind you're just a

01:14:49.600 belligerent woman so it just depends on the scenario sometimes you have to speak up sometimes it shows

01:14:54.720 power to take a back seat male or female so a good leader is also a good follower so just being able to

01:15:00.560 talk back and check somebody that don't mean confidence to me it just means you want you want attention

01:15:05.840 but why that's not that does not cause attention just because you really do not take nobody's

01:15:10.240 shit and you're not going to be sitting on the scenario i'm talking about your scenario the one you

01:15:13.920 literally just gave me why did you answer my question with a hypothetical for a woman but you didn't

01:15:19.040 answer the question for a man with a hypothetical why did the woman have to get a hypothetical

01:15:23.680 because men because men are naturally supposed to have to be leaders i think women today's time

01:15:29.600 think that to be confident they have to mimic masculine behavior to show confidence and i don't

01:15:34.880 necessarily agree with that how many times if a man if a woman's around true a true man like this

01:15:39.680 is that why men like you literally have like you talk about like you men like to have your mindset is

01:15:45.040 like why men believe that they have so much like stress when it comes to uh relationships because

01:15:50.560 you guys believe that you guys literally you guys have to be leaders you guys have to be dominant

01:15:55.440 you guys have to do this and this and this and that's why men have stressed out about relationships

01:15:59.520 so men are stressed because they don't know what type of women to pick it ain't got nothing to do

01:16:03.760 what they're doing men are stressed because they they chase after looks outside of character

01:16:07.600 so you're chasing after women we're not what's what's being what's insensitive about what i'm

01:16:12.880 saying no i said you need to learn how to be sensitive like i'm very i need to be a leader

01:16:17.760 but maybe but that's the and that's the problem today's women want men to be soft so they can be

01:16:23.680 tough but that's not reality let me add something real quick men just ask a question real quick why does

01:16:28.960 you need to learn to be sensitive exactly no because i'm saying that whole that whole mindset

01:16:33.200 is like the whole like leader because then you meet like for example like i would not be able

01:16:38.240 to be with someone like personally that is so dominant or like someone that is hat that has a

01:16:42.800 mindset where i don't want a sensitive guy come off that shit what are you talking about no i'm just

01:16:48.320 saying no i'm just saying not sensitive yes the word sensitive is a purple word i use i use the word

01:16:52.720 because i really believe it should be crying the movie theater with you you go oh my god i can't

01:16:57.040 believe it okay no i don't like pussies what do you mean sensitive you don't want a sensitive guy no

01:17:01.840 but that's not what i mean like being being able to freak i don't know the word but being able to

01:17:06.400 express your emotions when no that's not what i mean but i mean like the being able to do what you

01:17:12.320 tell me no but being a freak i don't know the word but it's like when being able to know like when it's

01:17:17.760 okay to be uh like yeah express your emotions at the right time like open up at the right time

01:17:23.680 when it's the right moment what's that word common sense vulnerable vulnerable there we go but that

01:17:28.720 don't vulnerability and leadership is two different things a man is still a leader whether he show

01:17:32.720 vulnerability or not you show the vulnerability you still gotta wipe your face and go back and

01:17:36.000 still leave our friend andrew over here said that nobody no woman wants a man who's a

01:17:42.000 bitch and who cries um so hang on hang on what did i actually say what i heard was no woman no

01:17:50.400 woman wants a pussy assumption no woman wants a man i don't believe that you actually want a sensitive

01:17:55.840 guy you know sensitive especially emotional sensitivity hang on calm down hang on hang on

01:18:02.480 i've been letting you go back and forth chill out okay especially when it comes to emotional

01:18:07.200 sensitivity you don't want somebody in a movie theater right who cries when bambi dies okay

01:18:12.560 none of you women want that shit just stop coping it's fucking bullshit total bullshit right you're

01:18:17.680 never going to convince me in a million years that that's what you want so that if you think that

01:18:21.120 that equates to uh being a bitch uh well i mean i guess i can kind of grant that because i i do think

01:18:27.280 that that is kind of bitch made cry when bambi dies right so that's all i'm saying no you're you're

01:18:32.960 you're like 100 right like yeah no girl wants a fucking pussy like that's the best way i can

01:18:36.880 explain a man like that i don't mind a sensitive man though i think there's like

01:18:42.320 it's confident with being yourself because some men are scared to cry or like that sense of machismo

01:18:47.360 so it's like they don't want to cry show that vulnerability so i think when they do show that

01:18:52.160 sensitive side of them it shows some confidence with themselves and overall i don't understand that

01:18:57.600 that makes no sense to me wouldn't it be the opposite like you say if you say i think that it

01:19:02.320 shows confidence if you show a vulnerable side yeah yes i don't understand why it wouldn't be

01:19:07.920 vulnerable let me finish calm down i don't know why it wouldn't be equally uh you know convincing

01:19:15.600 of confidence if you don't show vulnerability why would you need to why is that why is that a sign of

01:19:20.400 a lack of confidence i don't get that it's actually not what i was about to say is that being i know but

01:19:25.200 i wasn't talking okay let me finish speaking because you've caught me on multiple times now

01:19:28.800 now hang on you're gonna have plenty of time to talk i promise let's just finish our conversation

01:19:32.800 go ahead she hasn't gotten in the conversation i want to get her in on the conversation all right

01:19:37.840 it can't all be chair one all night so anyway go ahead you were you were so we were talking about

01:19:42.320 confidence why why would this be problematic for confidence if a man didn't show vulnerabilities

01:19:47.840 so you cut me off so you can explain that i can not speak that's what you did i was about

01:19:53.440 to talk and then you said speak or did i say can we get okay let me talk let me talk another person

01:19:59.280 in also in the conversation is that okay is that okay your majesty is there anything else we can do

01:20:04.000 for you your majesty yes why don't they hang on let me go get brian let's just get you the keys to

01:20:09.760 the studio your highness and we'll roll out the red carpet you can come on in we'll get you some

01:20:15.280 spritzers like what else can we do for you tonight but in the meantime while you think about

01:20:20.640 everything we can possibly do for you perhaps we can get this other gal in because she hasn't

01:20:24.960 been able to enter in the conversation silence peasant okay like i was gonna say got him

01:20:33.200 okay like i was gonna say is that no it's you right yeah yeah he's talking to you right yeah okay

01:20:38.560 what's your question or what's your response yeah so my my question to you was just how uh how does it

01:20:46.480 show that it's not actually confidence it's just be just because they don't open up about

01:20:51.360 vulnerability it's because with today's like society people often want men to not show that

01:20:57.600 vulnerability because they want them to be stronger machismo but i think showing being able to show that

01:21:03.200 confident side or not that confident side but being able to show that sensitive and vulnerable side

01:21:07.920 is confident but don't you agree that oftentimes big complaint which happens in relationships is that

01:21:15.200 when men open up to women they use that information as a weapon that you hang on hang on that they can

01:21:22.400 then utilize later so in some ways it's almost like intel gathering and this in this way they can learn

01:21:28.800 your fears they can learn various weapons to use against you as men they have physical strength they

01:21:34.160 don't really need to be able to weaponize emotion against women however women don't have that same

01:21:40.880 asset at their disposal so for them information is key right so in some ways aren't you basically

01:21:45.920 requesting that a man possibly give you weapons that you can use against him later that he just

01:21:50.880 never has to give up at all yeah i agree with what you're saying there are some ladies out there who

01:21:56.480 do take advantage of information like that but again it's just with who you choose to share that

01:22:00.880 information with and it doesn't have to be right after a day that you choose to share that vulnerable

01:22:06.160 side but being able to share that eventually is strong how long is eventually like if he never

01:22:12.480 shared if he never gave if he never gave you the weapons like what's wrong with that right i don't

01:22:16.800 really understand why uh why that would even show a lack of confidence let's say this guy handles all

01:22:22.240 of his business he takes care of everything he's supposed to do he takes care of all of his

01:22:26.160 responsibilities and duties just doesn't want to open up to you about whatever uh you know emotions he has

01:22:32.000 about any or any particular fears that he has or things like this why is that actually a sign of

01:22:37.360 weakness rather than a sign of strength because you don't trust me if i'm dating someone and they

01:22:41.760 don't show vulnerability or they aren't comfortable enough then you don't have any weapons no i'm not

01:22:47.280 saying that it's a weapon but you have what happened to you bro are you okay he's been through some

01:22:53.280 shit obviously like who who rejected i mean there's some truth to what he's saying and it's

01:22:58.160 some truth to what y'all saying too because i get it it's like so but that going back to what i was

01:23:02.320 saying originally vulnerability that's what i was trying to use earlier hurt you are we doing the who

01:23:06.240 hurt you yeah who hurt you bro who got who got you you're like hey you're like pushing all the

01:23:14.320 dumped women on the panel who hurt you okay um you're pushing 60 and you're like really like you're

01:23:22.560 broken i just i'm i'm pushing 220 we all got our crosses to bear you're broken you're a broken

01:23:32.880 spirit the only thing that's about to break those is those chair legs so i mean i would just calm down

01:23:40.240 you're okay so oh you think i how okay let me ask you

01:23:45.440 thank you i last time i was on you said that as women age they get like they get ugly and less

01:23:52.800 attractive and then yes so you i don't is this controversial oh is it did i make a controversial

01:24:00.240 statement as women get older they become less attractive yes this is the case do you think

01:24:04.640 your wife is ugly oh you're gonna tie it into the wife yeah less attractive now at 40 than she was when

01:24:10.800 she was 20. you got me oh my god i'm able to view objective reality boy that was a real hit you

01:24:18.000 really got me with that one you're broken that was quite the zinger you're broken dude yeah you're

01:24:23.920 broken why do y'all always say who hurt you like a lot of people i just i'm just talking about in

01:24:31.040 general like women always say i just hurt you like because i just said a normal person when y'all get hurt

01:24:36.240 let me tell you that's why we that's why we ask you because like everybody can i can i answer we

01:24:40.480 generally care i was a nanny for a very long time i babysat for lots of people many different ages i've

01:24:46.880 never met i have never met a stable man that acts like that man right there never met a stable man

01:24:54.800 that acts like him i've never i've never met a stable woman that can't keep her appetite under control

01:25:00.160 so you know i mean this is the thing what i what what is your deal dude look at you look at you how

01:25:06.960 much do you weigh how much you're so triggered calm down calm down i'm six i'm six foot and 200 pounds

01:25:13.680 you're right i need to lose about 15 you need to lose about 50 okay look we all got our roles here

01:25:18.880 calm down you're you're broken you're a broken you're a broken boy yeah i mean you're you know what you

01:25:24.240 are you're a broken record because all you got is you're broken i haven't heard you say anything else

01:25:28.720 i just feel like the mindset of like your head immediately going to like um like oh i'm she's

01:25:36.880 using it as a weapon i don't know like for me i i would never do that so i think it really depends

01:25:43.040 on who you are with because i agree with her like i think it's not like lack of not showing trust like

01:25:48.560 i would want to be emotionally vulnerable with but i want you to think about it from the from the other

01:25:53.200 end you what you're saying makes sense to me right it's rational you say it's a it's not the idea of

01:25:58.480 a man opening up to me is showing that the man has trust this is rational to me the problem is

01:26:03.040 is it's also rational to me the other way the man says well wait a second if i open up i actually give

01:26:09.280 the women around me weapons they would not ordinarily have an information they would not ordinarily have

01:26:13.920 which can then be used against me that's also rational it is even even opening up to you that they

01:26:20.560 have that fear but itself itself can be weaponized and used again so the thing is it's like at the same

01:26:27.200 time women say i want an emotionally stable billy badass guy right on at the other side of their

01:26:33.120 mouth the guy i also want somebody who's super emotional and opens up to me it's like well that's

01:26:36.640 because billy badass really you can't emotionally weaponize anything against him unless he tells it to

01:26:41.760 you well i don't think i'm asking for someone to be super emotional with me all the time it's just

01:26:46.320 if i were to want to be with someone i would want to be emotionally connected with them

01:26:50.720 right yeah but why does that include that person telling you their fears or telling you things or

01:26:57.680 you know things about themselves which could potentially later be utilized against them

01:27:02.800 why why do you why is that a requirement for emotional connection i don't know i just feel like

01:27:08.000 if you have a mindset of oh this woman is going to use my emotional vulnerability against me for one

01:27:15.440 i don't think it's not a set of is so it's not saying i don't know to me i think you should be

01:27:20.000 working on yourself yeah it's not saying she will do this it's saying why even give her the the

01:27:24.800 opportunity to ever do this what's the point okay but is it always women emotionally well men are not

01:27:30.560 with women so that they have an emotional support animal okay that's not what they're there for

01:27:34.560 they're not with women but men expect us to be vulnerable about their deepest darkest fears

01:27:39.200 that's not what they're with them for i'm going to tell you the truth you may not like hear this

01:27:42.240 but they're mostly with women because they really want to them that's honestly why most

01:27:46.080 men and that's probably the same reason why we're with men too not because they want an emotional

01:27:50.320 support animal they are viewing women through the prism of physical beauty attractiveness child

01:27:54.880 bearing not through the lens of can you help me out with my emotional problems women are the ones

01:28:00.720 who have the emotional problems they buy into the witchcraft of psychology and therapy and all that

01:28:05.600 bullshit men don't want anything to do with it men men are literally playing video games in lobbies

01:28:11.200 talking shit to each other and having a ball they don't need therapy they don't need anything

01:28:15.280 that's all women's stuff that that has nothing to do with men it's not even how men function wait hold

01:28:19.440 on i do want to come back to you because i was back there i heard you say something um repeat what

01:28:23.760 you said like when it came to men revealing certain things about them being vulnerable can you just repeat

01:28:29.200 it i don't know i just think that if you have a mindset of oh this woman is going to use my

01:28:36.080 emotional vulnerability against me a i think you should work on yourself before dating like i think

01:28:42.720 it's a self problem i'll respond go ahead and uh i lost my train of thought but that's like my my

01:28:50.400 thing like i just think you need to work on yourself and not all women are like that you can't just

01:28:54.480 generalize woman and say like oh she's going to use it against me like well how else let me ask you

01:29:00.880 a question can wait can i well i you're meeting the wrong woman then what do you think the tools are

01:29:06.880 women for for attacking men they can't beat them up so how do they do it here she can answer your

01:29:13.040 question in just a second but so uh so can you just repeat it one more time and then i'll have the

01:29:18.960 back and forth yeah um i feel like if you have a mindset of thinking like oh this woman is going to

01:29:25.360 use my emotional vulnerability against me i think you should work on yourself before getting into a

01:29:30.320 relationship and so do you think that men should pretty much at what point should they be willing to

01:29:36.400 be emotionally vulnerable from this jump well everyone it's case by case i think you would know as

01:29:41.840 an adult when you can trust someone okay i guess my question is though is like you're a virgin

01:29:48.400 you've not had sex with a man because you feel like you would get attached and you could get hurt

01:29:54.960 so men's corresponding fear which i mean i don't know if it's a fear for you is we don't want to

01:30:01.200 reveal like andrew said certain information that's going to get weaponized against us most men have

01:30:06.960 maybe you women have had sort of a corresponding or a symmetrical experience with a man where maybe you

01:30:15.040 revealed to to a man something really intimate and then when the relationship started to crumble

01:30:20.960 he used these things that he knew about you that other people didn't know and he weaponized it granted

01:30:27.600 this is something that women do far more commonly i've had this experience myself i've anecdotal experience

01:30:33.760 eric i don't know if you have an anecdotal experience where you shared something with a woman

01:30:37.440 and then when the relationship didn't go her way you guys were breaking up whatever she then weaponized it

01:30:43.280 she released embarrassing information about you she released you know these sorts of things in the

01:30:48.640 midst of the breakup she was like oh you were a pussy about this or whatever it is so i mean like

01:30:54.400 i'm just trying to understand here you like wouldn't you just the same kind of angle you're

01:31:01.040 coming at this with well oh you should just do it like couldn't guy just be like oh well you should

01:31:05.040 just fuck me because no i'm not saying you should just do it you should do it when you feel like you're

01:31:10.080 you're ready to open up but i just don't feel like you should generalize and be like

01:31:14.160 oh like you know she's going to use it against me can i ask you then just this this question

01:31:19.840 briefly go ahead i assume that you agree with me that most men who you're going to be in a

01:31:24.640 relationship with you're not going to be able to beat them up you can't you can't actually

01:31:28.800 physically probably beat them up no and i don't want to no right exactly so so inside of this force

01:31:35.040 dynamic that is not a tool which is available to you right now uh this is this terrible to say

01:31:41.760 out loud but it is the truth that is actually available to men they can utilize force they do

01:31:46.880 it with other men all the time um but it's not something they have to fear from you ever they

01:31:51.840 don't have to fear that you're going to beat them up like they have to fear from a guy that they'll get

01:31:55.040 beat up so the question is is what are the tools that women use to attack men what do they do they

01:32:01.840 use innuendo they use slander they use rumors they use things like this most of those things

01:32:07.920 come from the men themselves telling these women these things since that is the case you can't beat

01:32:13.680 me up but you're really mad at me how are you going to attack me well bangs over here begins by should

01:32:18.640 by saying making some age jokes right uh or uh you know you they can assault your looks you can start

01:32:24.560 with that route uh but if you really want to hit home right you're trying to attack the reputation

01:32:29.600 because men care about reputation so if they open up to you about things like their fears or

01:32:34.080 embarrassing stories or they're emotionally vulnerable to you how are they not setting

01:32:38.080 themselves up for attack from you but isn't that the same thing setting when women be vulnerable and

01:32:43.600 feminine you guys like to use that word um what isn't are we basically setting ourselves up as well

01:32:48.880 men you're making it sound like oh men men are the victim wait if it were the case that we saw for

01:32:55.440 instance that women were putting up or men were putting up online like oh are you dating my girl

01:33:00.720 like women are putting up are you dating my man uh things like this which are designed to attack and

01:33:06.240 destroy the reputation of men women are far more likely to do this than men are but women are far

01:33:12.320 more likely to go to court make up stories they're far more likely to make up stories to in order to get

01:33:16.960 assets like children and child support they are happy to utilize information and weaponize it to attack men

01:33:23.840 men usually don't do this because you that is such a lie that is such a lie almost done almost done

01:33:32.720 because when they deal with men they have the physical option men always have the physical

01:33:37.680 option with other men i don't like you bam you get smacked in the mouth right easy done right this is

01:33:43.520 the option they can always go with with women they can't do that if what ends up happening is they

01:33:47.920 have to use the same tools which is innuendo slander they're not as good at it

01:33:51.120 wait so by using your example then shouldn't women have more to lose since they a can get

01:33:57.120 hurt like physically and emotionally well men aren't attacking women my point isn't to say that

01:34:03.600 men are out there attacking women in relationships and right now at the dv rates for instance they're

01:34:08.800 pretty equal that what's what's actually going on i'm trying to show you a force argument so let me

01:34:15.200 explain what i mean so if me and the gentleman who's in the studio with you right now if i'm in the

01:34:19.520 studio with him we begin talking to each other he readily has the option available to him to reach

01:34:26.640 across and punch me in the mouth and probably would if i said the wrong thing or he may think vice versa

01:34:34.400 for women that's not the case he doesn't have the option to just reach over and punch you in the mouth

01:34:39.360 okay that is that is a social taboo one uh so he has to use the same types of tools that you would

01:34:46.720 have to use for physical problem which would be slander innuendo things like this but because men

01:34:51.280 are generally used to dealing with men and not women right they focus on the force aspect not on the

01:34:57.600 rumor-mongering slander aspect women focus on that even with each other so they're way way way better at

01:35:03.600 it so i would say no men actually have way more to lose by opening up about their vulnerabilities

01:35:09.280 than women do okay i just want to say if you're going off by your point you're basically saying

01:35:15.120 like oh we should probably not have sex with men then because we're scared that we're going to get

01:35:19.120 beat up that's like basically what you're implying what are you talking no the opposite men are not

01:35:26.240 beating up women in relationships any more than women are attacking men in relationships what i'm saying

01:35:30.800 is that because men deal with other men through the aspect of the physical meaning you start a rumor

01:35:36.240 about me and you're a dude and you talk a bunch of i might punch you in the mouth that's not going

01:35:40.640 to happen with a woman women that do that with women so with women we're forced into the same

01:35:46.080 information war against them which is slander innuendo things like this but because women deal with each

01:35:52.480 other all the time they're always in that war so they're really good at that and men are not

01:35:57.600 so when when you say to me it's not it's almost a form of manipulation to say i'm really attracted

01:36:03.200 to stoic men who have great emotional control but at the same time i want them to be vulnerable and

01:36:08.560 open up to me it's almost sounds like a form of manipulation in order for you to accrue knowledge

01:36:13.840 which can then be used against them what the okay you know what i'm not who do you know the stories

01:36:19.600 that we prefer guys are willing up to the idea open like open to the idea of being vulnerable period

01:36:26.320 that's all we were saying you were you're adding yeah i know i know i know what you're saying i'm

01:36:31.120 sorry you don't feel safe in your relationship metro matt donated two hundred dollars a sign of

01:36:37.680 incompetence is confidence in being wrong these women are a prime example you are literally hearing

01:36:44.000 but not listening this is why women need to stop speaking so much and listen all right metro matt

01:36:50.800 thank you metro matt thank you for the uh tts sorry for the delay on getting to it that was away from

01:36:54.960 the uh computer andrew i think you wanted to steal man her position yeah i mean the position is simple

01:37:01.680 you're just saying that uh you know at the same time i want this uh stoic man and this and that i

01:37:06.240 want a man who's not afraid to open up to me what i'm saying is that men are at a distinct disadvantage

01:37:12.800 okay which is that they don't they don't deal with women the same way women deal with women

01:37:17.120 and when you have one-on-one conversations with women you find out just how much the gossip

01:37:21.200 mongering within the sisterhood goes how much the backstabbing goes and how much they destroy

01:37:26.560 each other's reputation on a daily basis they do it all the time it's their mechanism for defense

01:37:31.520 it's their mechanism for attack not for men men's mechanism for attack is the physical they beat the

01:37:36.880 shit out of each other so they're at a massive disadvantage when it comes to utilizing information

01:37:41.440 in a way which is predatory or harmful to women whereas women are not at that disadvantage with men

01:37:47.040 that's why when you say i want you to open up and be emotionally vulnerable to me

01:37:51.520 right you what you're really asking is for them to give you weapons which can then later be used

01:37:56.240 against you even if it's not by you it could just be that you gossip with your girlfriends and tell them

01:38:00.240 whatever it is that your emotional his emotional weaknesses are this or that and they use it against

01:38:05.280 him but the the truth is is that they are at a disadvantage like it or not well that's why it's

01:38:10.480 important to really take your time with showing that vulnerable side like it doesn't have to be

01:38:15.280 immediate it could be after months or after years if that's really how long it takes just really be

01:38:20.720 sure like andrew isn't andrew like aren't you vulnerable with your wife like you're married

01:38:24.560 like don't you got haven't you gotten that point with your her i try i make sure that well first of

01:38:29.200 all i don't think that women even like it when you're vulnerable with them i think that that's

01:38:32.080 cope and bullshit anyway he's not even attracted to his wife i don't think i don't think my wife would

01:38:37.600 want me even to be emotionally vulnerable or uh something like this i don't i don't even think that

01:38:43.840 you would want that okay what would be what would be the point in the principle women women don't

01:38:48.640 value that they don't value uh emotionally vulnerable men they exploit emotionally vulnerable

01:38:54.960 men they don't value them why are women always like the problem and like the enemy in the situation

01:39:02.960 oh men can't open up because women are gonna women are gonna attack them and women are gonna use it

01:39:07.920 against you you literally said it you literally said it when did i say that they were the enemy

01:39:13.200 just making shit up because you're acting like it you're like oh when whenever women have the chance

01:39:18.320 to bite back at a man they're gonna bite back and they're gonna use let me speak let me speak dude you

01:39:24.960 fucking talk so much go ahead calm down calm down go ahead okay like in your story and in your head

01:39:31.840 women are the enemy like it's so obvious it's so clear you can ask anybody here women are clearly

01:39:37.520 in your story you make an argument do you mind if i like so here's what you're saying what you're

01:39:43.200 saying is because there's a distinction in interpersonal dynamics between the sexes

01:39:48.080 that if i bring up those distinctions that somehow that makes the women the enemy so let's just test and

01:39:54.640 see if this is true bangs okay so yeah because you're taking a personal opinion just wait hold on

01:39:59.440 no no you gotta let him finish you gotta let him finish i'm just gonna ask you a question do you

01:40:04.720 think that men or women are better at weaponizing information to destroy the other men or women

01:40:10.960 women absolutely yeah women absolutely so they all you're doing is making my point for me when i point

01:40:16.240 out this intersexual distinction which exists and that you're actually asking men to take a greater risk

01:40:21.920 by being emotionally vulnerable then you are risking back now can you make an argument against that or can't

01:40:28.240 you okay but women are emotionally vulnerable all the time so now they have this emotional

01:40:33.040 vulnerability against them as well as physical oh oh my god oh my god dude shut the fuck up

01:40:41.920 so i think what he's saying i do understand from his point of view and from his experience

01:40:46.480 this is how he understands women and i think that's totally valid because earlier you were saying like

01:40:51.600 you're saying we were giving you an opinion you're like this is not how men think i'm telling you how men

01:40:56.160 think so can we just take a quick poll at this table if men or no sorry let me backtrack if women

01:41:02.480 at this table prefer somebody a man in this case who is more emotionally vulnerable versus a man who

01:41:09.120 say isn't emotionally vulnerable show of hands for that i guess i'm like pretty neutral but that's like

01:41:15.840 that's a reason why we all have something to react to go ahead but that's the whole point of this

01:41:20.160 topic was is it simply because i was looking for the word vulnerable like i like men that also that can

01:41:25.600 get there with me and then because like i'm not trying to be a bitch or anything like that here

01:41:30.560 can you give us an example of what this would look like just so okay uh it would be more just like

01:41:35.920 i would i don't know just like for example i'd like uh i would constantly just be like

01:41:40.720 i'm too lazy to go off the bed and go go grab the remote that's like right there i'd like go

01:41:44.960 go get that but the way i say it it's very what does that have to do with vulnerability but like

01:41:49.200 because i'll say something but like but i'll say something is it it's about okay okay all right

01:41:55.840 so i grew up with a dad who was very like masculine and stuff and he had three daughters and my dad

01:42:07.280 like he knows when to open up he's i mean my whole childhood i've i had always been kind of scared of

01:42:12.720 him because he was very assertive and very you know authoritative but once he once i got older and i he

01:42:18.880 started opening up about his childhood and every horrible thing he went through it gave me so much

01:42:22.960 clarity on why he acts the way he acts and it gave me understanding so when i feel like you need to

01:42:30.240 know people's vulnerabilities to understand the way they do haven't you guys ever read the book about

01:42:35.680 the ways of love or something like that it's a book about how people love and how they express their

01:42:40.080 love the love languages it's about how people express their love languages and it all roots back to

01:42:44.800 childhood so when you're able to open up and be vulnerable about childhood or whatever whatever

01:42:50.800 has affected your life and has what made made you become the person you are shut the fuck up andrew

01:42:55.840 dude like just hey be nice be nice like dude be nice i don't know what since you mentioned since

01:43:02.080 you mentioned a book you need to read the first two pages of uh green eggs and ham go ahead right now

01:43:06.560 right now read it read it here while he's while she's getting that going we're going to react to a

01:43:10.960 quick video can you pull that up damien yeah it doesn't like open in a new tab that should be

01:43:16.320 fine let me take a look at it though can i continue though with one sec one sec hold on hold on you got

01:43:22.640 it yeah yeah uh there's no way to can you open it in like a

01:43:32.640 god fucking drop boxes dog shit are you sure there's another way hold on

01:43:43.440 if you here go back to the go back to stream labs the private chat and then drag the link to a tab

01:43:52.960 that's what you did try one try it again that's weird i don't know why it's doing that

01:44:00.800 it's still giving you the dog shit drop box okay fine whatever we'll play it make it full screen though

01:44:10.000 is that that read a book is it okay just play the shit mute it

01:44:16.720 okay i she makes some dumb tick tock i wanted this man to be vulnerable with me for a for so long he

01:44:21.760 finally called me yesterday and opened up but the second he started crying i lost all interest in

01:44:26.560 him quickly this is a safe space but not that safe so like what yeah like you guys claim you want to

01:44:34.400 want the guy to be vulnerable but like there's the line we don't know where until we're asking it's

01:44:40.400 her it's not us this is what i'm saying about generalizing we don't know what kind of girl you

01:44:45.280 are until we're like oh okay yeah we we don't know what kind of girl you are until we're actually in

01:44:50.720 that situation and so either we we're gonna fumble the girl and you might say well if she was not

01:44:57.360 cool like fine it was good to lose her but like there's all kinds of actions that you can take in

01:45:02.160 a relationship to protect the relationship if you want to keep it going um for most men uh i think we

01:45:08.000 would happily make the trade-off of yeah i'd rather just not be like a crying little

01:45:12.400 bitch in front of my girlfriend and i keep her like i think most men are happy to make that trade-off

01:45:17.120 um so for example i know that like i like sensitive men or like what was the word again

01:45:24.880 vulnerable there we go um those men because for example like i just got a call from my one of my

01:45:29.440 guy friends over the phone and he was basically crying because he just got in a fist fight with

01:45:33.520 one of his best friends and he was i i was literally babysitting i was literally working

01:45:39.200 no he was just sad because he he fought them that was really sad so so that's what i'm saying like

01:45:44.720 i was there to support like be there for him and then didn't make me feel some kind of way oh like

01:45:48.320 this man's a pussy like nothing like that at all that's that's fair i think let me maybe i can maybe

01:45:53.760 i can come at this from a different angle so um from your perspective let's say you had a man

01:46:00.880 and he was doing everything correctly okay uh he was very charitable he was very humble but at the same

01:46:08.000 time right he was very dominant he was handling all of his business he was financially set he was he had

01:46:13.840 all of like the qualia that you that you wanted what would be the investment there of demanding to

01:46:19.600 note what makes him tick why is that even necessary to know that why is that the dive in of open up so

01:46:27.440 i can figure out what makes you tick why is that so important to even know if they're if they're meeting

01:46:32.640 all the challenges and checking all the boxes why is it necessary for you to know what makes them tick

01:46:37.760 because it's part of a partnership men are always so okay let me tell you this men are always so

01:46:43.840 i'm not asking you okay then let me answer why do you always have to say yeah you can answer but

01:46:48.320 can you okay so men are always men are always concerned about oh body count which is in the

01:46:54.560 past so why woman why can't women be concerned about their life the way they grew up it's good

01:47:00.000 to know about childhood it's good to know about the way you were raised okay okay get it but the

01:47:04.560 thing is he's already doing all the right things it he's already he's already checking all the boxes

01:47:08.720 okay here hang on hang on the only thing i can assume is that the reason you're demanding that

01:47:14.080 he open up to you and be vulnerable even though he's doing everything else right is because you

01:47:18.720 want information yeah and you want it i don't know why you want it right and he doesn't know why you

01:47:24.160 want it but why do you even need to know it can i is it even pertinent for the relationship that you

01:47:28.640 know this information bangs tell me why is it even pertinent why is it even okay one one response you go

01:47:34.240 you go then we're moving on go ahead i think it just all leads back to the fact that you think

01:47:39.120 women are evil because it's all of a sudden it's about yes i'm answering it to you it's all about

01:47:45.200 oh woman want information so they can attack you later on and use it against you no it's about

01:47:50.320 partnership it's about understanding let me ask the question again maybe this time you'll answer it

01:47:54.960 the question is if he's checking all the boxes and doing all the things you already want why is it

01:47:59.760 actually so important to you that you need to know what makes him tick because i want to know about

01:48:03.920 his childhood i want to know how he grew up i want to know what happened i want to know

01:48:07.600 if you want to use weapons that's why begs because you know go ahead you idiot i agree with what she

01:48:13.680 said i think there is no such thing as a perfect relationship whether that's with your significant

01:48:18.800 other or with your friend therefore fights will occur in your marriage or in your relationship there's

01:48:24.640 no such thing as a no fighting relationship and in order to have understanding and make that healthy

01:48:31.200 you need to understand who they are as a person where they grew up how they were raised that's how

01:48:35.760 you will maintain a healthy relationship that's what made them let us assume and that's not just

01:48:41.200 with men it's with friends too i would want to know like my girlfriends you know how they grew up where

01:48:46.240 they were born their culture response i need a very quick response very quick all i'm going to say

01:48:51.520 is is that it wouldn't really matter ultimately if he's already checking all the boxes already doing

01:48:56.160 the right no it does matter because hang on hang on let me respond okay if you if he's doing all

01:49:00.960 those things and you fight every once in a while you've already admitted that that's healthy and

01:49:04.160 normal inside relationships the only reason i can ascertain that you would need to know what makes him

01:49:09.760 tick is because you want weapons but also sorry i gotta let him go go ahead all right real quick um

01:49:16.880 it was a lot being said i totally understand what andrew was saying because we've seen a lot of examples of

01:49:22.400 women using that information to hurt men that is a reality and you have to be cautious you have to

01:49:28.960 move wisely like last time i was up here the guy was being vulnerable taking off the women on all these

01:49:34.240 dates and we're saying how he need to be a little more have his wits about him i understand what the

01:49:38.960 women say i think where men get it twisted up is we think being vulnerable is about showing softness i

01:49:44.720 think in my experiences i don't know everything but there has been women that have used that against you

01:49:49.920 they do exist but i think when women say that they're not necessarily talking about just sitting

01:49:54.400 on the corner crying all the time it's about when you're not afraid to show how you feel there's a

01:49:59.360 certain uh bravery in that it's not about her seeing you sensitive it's you not caring what anybody

01:50:07.440 thinks about you in that moment so if you're emotional you let it out if you upset you let out i think

01:50:13.120 women are more drawn to the fact that you don't care it's not necessarily about you being a

01:50:18.320 bitch in front of them it's you so confident in yourself as a man that i don't care who here

01:50:23.520 i'll cry because i'm mad as hell not because i'm a bitch it's because this is how i feel and i'm gonna

01:50:27.440 let it out and i don't care who thinks i think a lot of women are drawn to that aspect of it not

01:50:32.400 necessarily because oh you're soft because like for example i had my one of my exes i was vulnerable

01:50:39.040 to her about things i went through with my daughter's mother so women can use it against you to hurt you

01:50:44.800 or help just like a man she could he could say okay you went through a lot of things i could

01:50:48.720 throw that in your face or i can do something to help you with what you went through like my ex for

01:50:53.840 example based on what i went through with my daughter's mother she made me a collage of moments

01:50:58.240 of me and my daughter and like little quotes like hey no matter who sleeps on you you're still a good

01:51:03.200 person like she used that weakness that i gave her that vulnerability and gave me something to give

01:51:08.320 me confidence in that area so i think the problem on both sides in today's conversations

01:51:12.960 is we use too many it's too much extremism like i said last week when you're dealing with a

01:51:17.200 relationships there takes a certain level of vulnerability on both sides and information

01:51:22.320 can be used to hurt you but can also be used to help you it's about the type of person you're dating

01:51:27.520 but i understand what andrew's saying but i understand what the women's saying too

01:51:30.800 okay thank you you're gonna go you're gonna go you need to be better disciplined though with the insults

01:51:36.480 okay andrew andrew is very gracious he didn't call me earlier in the conversation you just called him

01:51:43.040 an idiot you need to you need to lower the both of you but mostly you lower the temperature okay

01:51:47.680 all right you go you go and then andrew final word then we're gonna move on go ahead um in relationships

01:51:53.040 when you also show that vulnerable side like he was saying you could also better the relationship

01:51:57.680 like if um if i was dating someone and they said i don't like when you do this because it makes me feel

01:52:02.640 like the relationship isn't stronger it just makes me feel bad that showing your vulnerability can

01:52:09.040 better the relationship so it's sorry it's better to show vulnerability okay yeah just like adding on

01:52:16.560 to what she said like my dad was a very crazy guy growing up he was very authoritative very i don't know

01:52:23.200 but um when he started opening up to me as i got older on his childhood and how he grew up and

01:52:28.960 you know all this stuff it gave me better understanding and i had less anger towards him

01:52:35.840 back then i had anger towards him before i knew that stuff and then once i had clarity on how he grew

01:52:40.480 up and all his traumas i finally i was able to have um compassion towards him and i was like okay my dad

01:52:48.960 isn't evil you know no one grows up and says oh i want to be evil i want to be a bad parent i want to do

01:52:54.960 this it's just the circumstances that lead to that and that was something that took me a really long

01:53:01.920 time to learn because it took years until my dad finally was able to open up with me about that so

01:53:08.080 yes i do think it is very important to be vulnerable andrew uh go ahead you have final words very yeah

01:53:12.960 very quickly um so i think that you can have very deep emotional connections with people uh regardless of

01:53:20.240 if they open up to you as a traumatic dumping ground one way or the other notice that it's

01:53:25.600 women who are always requesting this not men notice that there's a distinction in the power dynamic

01:53:31.360 that should give you a really good reason as to why this is so often requested even though for men

01:53:37.040 it's not something that they even want to do it's not a thing that we even do with each other we do not

01:53:41.600 trauma dump on each other we don't do that ultimately i would just kind of tie it off this way

01:53:47.680 and say don't listen to what people say watch what they do that's the oldest piece of advice

01:53:53.120 and wisdom on planet earth watch what people do and so if you watch what women do what women do is

01:53:59.600 they say the same time they want very stoic men who are very much under emotional guard and emotional

01:54:04.880 control that they want them to emotionally open up to them and then we see what they do with that

01:54:10.240 information what they do with that information during divorce is they weaponize it what they do with

01:54:14.240 that information we have during a breakup is they weaponize it all the information that you gave them

01:54:19.760 all that emotion all those and they can twist it so badly too they can you could say for instance you

01:54:25.920 know uh when i was 18 uh you know i took drugs for six months you could say that and they could say well

01:54:31.200 this guy was a habitual drug user he can't be trusted very very minute things like this can be twisted warped

01:54:38.880 used against you there's actually no good reason for you to give these information this information

01:54:44.880 and these fears up you don't actually need to do that it's not good uh or healthy and it is not

01:54:49.520 going to negate a strong emotional connection it's not going to do that so that's that's what i would

01:54:55.040 say real real quick though andrew i got to keep it about like when i said that last time you was here

01:55:00.480 you didn't agree i told that we were talking to about the dude and how he was being green with the

01:55:05.440 woman i said you got to pay attention to what the women do and you was like well we're blaming the

01:55:09.920 woman by by saying that but you're saying the same thing right now opposite i thought you were blaming

01:55:14.960 i thought you were too hard of a kid not the woman no i know but but the woman needed to be harder you

01:55:21.200 need to be harder on her but you just said out your own mouth that you got to look at what a woman does

01:55:26.560 and not what she says that's the argument i used last time i was on the show because he was going

01:55:31.120 by what the woman was saying outside of her actions he was looking at the actions of he her

01:55:36.320 actions was not saying i want to be with you saying i just want to show up and eat with you

01:55:39.840 and now that's what i said then but this week you're saying that but like oh but just to make

01:55:43.440 long that kid was naive there's no doubt he was naive neither a lot a lot of a lot of people are

01:55:49.680 naive but but the thing is you need to have mentors as men so that they can show you absolutely

01:55:54.400 i'm not one of them but there are men out there who mentor younger men absolutely and real quick

01:55:58.720 i'm just saying this everybody's different because what you said i don't necessarily agree with that

01:56:03.440 like based on how i grew up a lot of my friends we had to be lean on each other we had like i talked

01:56:08.640 to my my man called me the other day i got a lot of friends that call me like yo bro i'm tired of

01:56:13.440 these kids man i'm like i don't know my my wife is stressing me out so sometimes i just fly giving up

01:56:18.640 dudes do speak to each other like that and i think that's not trauma dumping bro your your friends

01:56:23.200 aren't calling you up and telling that's exactly what it is you're telling bro my man that's complaining

01:56:28.400 that's complaining that's the difference that's semantics it's that's the bro that's semantics

01:56:33.040 whenever whenever someone's calling you about that's your opinion i'm not gonna try to change

01:56:37.120 your mind but when whenever someone calls you in a vulnerable state about what they're going through

01:56:42.160 insecurity about they self i don't know if i can make it i don't know if i got the money i don't

01:56:45.600 know if my wife those are vulnerable moments that men share amongst each other as well so like i said

01:56:50.720 last time we can't speak from just our point of view because everybody's not like us and how you grow up and

01:56:55.920 how you behave determines how you deal with the emotional situations maybe the way you grew up

01:57:00.240 you had a strong mother you had a strong father y'all had a certain regiment where emotions wasn't

01:57:04.480 required for you to cope but certain people don't grow up with those those those structural environments

01:57:09.920 in their families so they have to become vulnerable just to create relationships in their own life because

01:57:15.200 they don't have that type of family so when we try to paint everything with a broad brush i don't think

01:57:19.920 no one gains from that i think just becomes having so i would just say that having having male friends

01:57:25.680 who you have uh you know a lot of history with and you guys have a deep trust factor uh and you also

01:57:32.720 understand the force dynamic there as well there's a force dynamic even between friends if he goes out

01:57:37.360 and slanders you things like that what happens he gets beat up that's what happens so there's when

01:57:42.720 you're talking about interpersonal dynamics with men and even the way that men complain to each other

01:57:47.040 totally different than the idea of trying to dive into the deepest darkest recesses of your brain so

01:57:53.600 that you can trauma dump and that's what's actually being requested with emotional vulnerability

01:57:58.400 is that you you give up in a sense a lot of your sovereignty by doing that and i don't really see

01:58:04.720 what the gain here is if you're saying my best friend who i grew up with calls me and he's he you

01:58:10.880 know he talks to me about interpersonal things you still have a force dynamic in play there you can still

01:58:15.760 do something and he could do something back to you if you were to weaponize that you don't have that

01:58:20.720 with women dude that is not there but but i think what you think you just have to be better at it than

01:58:25.440 they do but but i think what you're explaining as emotional vulnerability is not what everybody's

01:58:29.840 talking about i think with like i said in my opinion what it is it's not necessarily just telling your

01:58:34.480 girl everything it's the fact that you don't care about how you're viewed in that moment because

01:58:40.400 you're so secure within yourself it's not about impressing her or making her look at you a different

01:58:45.120 way it's about saying i don't care what you think as my woman so in other words if i if i'm talking

01:58:49.440 to a woman care if she wants you to be emotionally because it's not about her it's about me it's a

01:58:54.000 i don't care who just i'm just talking about me personally no matter who i'm around if i feel a way

01:58:58.800 about something i'm going to let it out because i'm confident enough for myself to if someone wants

01:59:04.560 to judge me because i'm letting a vulnerable moment happen that doesn't take away from me and i think

01:59:09.600 when men go into a situation or women going to a situation saying well i don't want to show my true

01:59:14.160 self because this person can take something away from me that shows insecurity within themselves

01:59:18.240 in my opinion well i think i think the opposite i think that emotional control is part of getting

01:59:25.440 rid of the passions and that men are completely inundated way more than they ever should be in

01:59:30.320 modernity with the passions and you're a christian under christian ethics you know the heart's a liar

01:59:35.520 and because the heart's a liar you have to you have to make the heart work for you not be enslaved by

01:59:41.280 the heart and so the thing is like no i don't think it's a good idea to give into the passions

01:59:45.760 i don't think it's a good idea to be overly emotional with either men or women i do think

01:59:50.320 it's nice to have confidants who are very close friends but i think even then you should be somewhat

01:59:55.600 guarded you should be somewhat guarded then ultimately that's how men survive with each other

02:00:00.240 they i mean we have to survive that way with each other you can't tell you can't you can't tell your

02:00:05.440 friend like like here let me give you an example right let's say you have a close friend of yours

02:00:10.240 or you know like that you grew up with or something like that let's say that the night before you had

02:00:16.080 a dream uh that a dude did stuff with you are you going to tell them about that no you're

02:00:21.760 not going to tell them about that it's a crazy example though that's like you'd be like wait a

02:00:26.000 second i'm not gonna tell why because you don't want you wouldn't want let's uh get out right

02:00:30.640 that's an extreme example i don't dream like that but it's an extreme example to demonstrate to you

02:00:35.840 why it is that it that uh in many cases you're still not going to reveal potentially embarrassing

02:00:41.840 information even to a person you really trust and there's a lot of sense to that because you

02:00:46.800 keep i'm gonna shut up you keep talking about the worst possible situation but go ahead all right

02:00:52.000 we gotta move it on we're gonna let a couple chats come through i'm gonna have you read them okay

02:00:55.920 they're gonna come up on screen thank you lucas for the uh message bless you oh yeah start start

02:01:04.000 reading please i'm blind okay gents my apologies but i'm compelled to talk shit in response to

02:01:09.600 delulu girl chair five i'm six foot four 235 pounds a partner at new york city american law firm am law 100

02:01:17.680 firm so riddle me sorry guys fucking

02:01:21.840 riddle me this by the way the two of us who would be dominating whom this is for you go ahead

02:01:31.680 uh well obviously i mean if you're not into it then that's not that's your opinion but that's

02:01:36.640 what i'm into so that's my answer okay you'd be dominating the six foot four no 235 i like my

02:01:43.760 short kings sorry but my yes are you asian lucas she likes asian men so but not if you're that tall

02:01:49.440 he says part two don't ever forget high earning competent and virtuous men are the prize not you

02:01:55.920 and sure as hell not the mong mongoloid piglet in chair one now excuse me my hot blonde wife

02:02:05.280 brought me a sandwich time to eat yo lucas thanks for the message do appreciate it um you have a good

02:02:12.560 wife uh speaking of on that chat going around the table who do you guys think is the prize men or

02:02:19.920 women starting with you go ahead women who's the prize women women both both okay both both both

02:02:32.560 okay all right thank you lucas oh we have another one here from lucas we have uh dimwits we process

02:02:38.400 emotions differently our brains are wired differently mainly because of something we

02:02:42.320 call testosterone actually we have a societal duty for stoicism otherwise we'd all be in jail

02:02:51.040 lucas thank you so much for the uh chat really appreciate it man good to see in the chat i did

02:02:56.320 not know you were a six four giga chad 235 pound lawyer thank you man w yo w's in the chat for lucas

02:03:04.800 boys by the way uh he is an attorney so all of you guys he he if you have any misdemeanor charges

02:03:12.560 felonies he also does citations in new york new york city he also uh where's upstate new york is that

02:03:19.120 like buffalo buffalo you're you're from jersey right yeah if you guys catch any duis in buffalo he he

02:03:27.520 specializes in duis and he also does um uh murder he defends murder cases so anybody who's been charged

02:03:36.560 with murder manslaughter involuntary well that voluntary he also does all that so lucas thank

02:03:41.600 you man wait that guy that guy yeah so if you ever catch a case in new york state he also practices in

02:03:49.200 rhode island too can can he drop his full name so we could search him up are you planning to commit

02:03:54.560 any felonies in new york maybe in the future you never know or i could refer him to a friend

02:03:58.880 you i will connect you after the show it sounds like you maybe have some pending uh criminal cases

02:04:04.000 in new york state i will be sure to get you guys connected um as soon as possible and then

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02:04:56.880 moving back over to we got through all of michelle's we have chloe uh chloe you said

02:05:04.880 the time period to ask someone on the first date shouldn't take more than three days

02:05:09.840 uh have you had experiences where they just don't ask or yeah and it is what it is i think it's just 72

02:05:18.000 hours for me like i feel like the people that i connect with are around my age similar career

02:05:24.240 experience everything so if you don't show me interest in like 72 hours you don't set up a date

02:05:29.360 you don't set up a time then it's kind of like what are we doing here why why don't you i think

02:05:34.880 personally because growing up in my family i set up a lot of events for like thanksgiving chinese new

02:05:40.560 years everything so i think if a man doesn't plan now will he ever plan in the future couldn't the man

02:05:46.800 just say if she doesn't plan now will she ever plan in the future yeah if they want to do that

02:05:51.440 they can do that too because i'll plan future dates of course but i want to see at least on the first

02:05:56.400 couple ones that he's willing to put that effort again consideration but can the guy just say well

02:06:00.400 i'm waiting to see if she'll put the effort in yeah if he wants to he can do that so you guys would

02:06:04.640 just be in a deadlock and either even though you guys would otherwise be a perfect match aside from

02:06:09.680 this one component it would just never happen because neither of you were willing to make the first move

02:06:14.080 yeah i think we wouldn't be a perfect match because of this just on the basis of him not taking

02:06:18.880 initiative yeah okay but i mean you seem more like at least from what i've gathered so far you do seem

02:06:24.400 like a bit more progressive um what what objections i guess do you have besides the one you've already

02:06:30.320 listed to like actually just hey what's up you want to go get dinner like where where's the uh the line

02:06:37.680 of why i guess what's the uh objection to you from making that initiative i'm like i i do a lot of

02:06:49.440 hosting i host a lot of parties with friends everything personally i know i have the ability to

02:06:55.600 plan together invite people set invites in way in advance but i want to make sure to see that he's the

02:07:01.440 same if he'll do in the future setting of events where he's inviting friends over and everything and if

02:07:06.400 he doesn't take that and it's just sorry if he doesn't take that initiative now i in the beginning

02:07:12.720 when he should be showing the most interest if he has less interest in me in the future he's going to

02:07:18.480 show even less effort in the future as well but i also believe if we get to know each other we should

02:07:26.080 be growing our interest in each other so if he does show less interest then again it's not a good match

02:07:31.120 and that's all right and then like should he also pay for the first date i think whoever this kind of

02:07:37.440 goes hand in hand uh well you just said you don't ask first so i mean it's like yeah you just said

02:07:42.480 whoever asks but you've just conceded that you refuse to be the one to ask so it's kind of like

02:07:49.120 yeah de facto the man has to pay then right yeah and in the future when i plan the dates i'll be paying

02:07:54.240 this whole like just show of hands on the like paying for first dates thing uh who here thinks the

02:07:59.600 guy should pay for the first date who here thinks whoever asks should pay okay who here asks men out

02:08:09.440 uh yeah i mean don't you think this whole like if your position is well whoever asks should pay

02:08:16.080 don't you kind of think that uh this this would make sense if men and women asked each other out

02:08:24.560 at similar rates but the reality is that's not the case in actuality probably like 99 of first dates

02:08:34.720 are initiated by men so they're like who whoever i should pay ignores like the massive gap that exists

02:08:42.240 between men and women when it comes to initiative so it's kind of like seems like another way of saying

02:08:49.600 men should pay but yeah that's exactly what's your question but how much time do you take to

02:08:54.560 prepare for a date or before when you used to go on dates how much time you mean like getting ready

02:09:02.240 for a date yeah 30 minutes maybe i don't know yeah i think the girls here can say they usually take a

02:09:08.000 long time to get ready for nails what if i give you oh nails among other things yeah what if what if i

02:09:13.440 give you a makeup and nail pass oh yeah of course i take it but other than that like obviously nails

02:09:20.320 cost a lot of money do you think wait hold on just to be clear do women wear makeup and do nails and

02:09:27.680 hair and all do you do it for men or do you do it for yourselves do you want us to show up on the

02:09:31.920 first date looking crusty what but like you should present yourself well but like having like full glam

02:09:40.000 makeup and like perfectly manicured everything uh you know i nails especially like speaking on the

02:09:47.920 nails thing like do you think granted there are some weirdo dudes out there um you think a guy's

02:09:55.200 ever like been on a date with a girl and she had like her nails weren't all mangled and they were just

02:10:00.400 normal nails think a guy's ever been on a date with a girl and she didn't have like fake nails and he's

02:10:06.960 like damn that's not yes i can't yes i can't fuck her now yes i can't what no i think it's more

02:10:13.200 well couldn't you extend this anyway like couldn't you just extend it out and say okay well then

02:10:17.680 everything in a man's life uh was done in preparation for this date like you could you could just kind

02:10:23.440 of logically extend this out on both sides as far as you possibly wanted to right but the thing is

02:10:28.960 i only did this for this date and so therefore you should pay and it's like okay but i did the

02:10:33.360 accumulation of all of my life's work was done for this particular date so therefore you should pay

02:10:39.600 right does that make any sense to you no right to to piggyback on what andrew's saying like let's say

02:10:45.600 for example uh who here would be attracted to a guy who could like easily defend you in some sort of

02:10:52.960 sort of self-defense situation so like let's say he he either owns a firearm or he's like a uh he's a

02:11:00.880 boxer and he's spent like 10 years boxing right so would it be fair to say like let's say a guy's on

02:11:07.360 a date with you and like some some guy is like harassing you and he like fucks up the other dude

02:11:13.040 and it's warranted like self-defense or whatever and he's like well now that i fucked up this other dude

02:11:18.400 you need to reimburse me for all of my years of all the costs the the training costs for the gym

02:11:25.600 you need to now reimburse me and all our future dates are on you because i this dude up and here

02:11:31.680 were my costs associated with my brazilian jujitsu or my boxing gym or here's the firearm i used to

02:11:38.480 prevent some guy from maybe this guy had a knife boom kills the guy oh now you got to pay is that a

02:11:44.240 fair proposition or no i think you should hook him up with the new york lawyer at that point if he wants to

02:11:48.720 build that case that's pretty crazy hold on okay um yeah it's word okay go the sources tab

02:11:59.760 go the sources hide hide stream yard okay i think we lost internet hold on did something get unplugged

02:12:08.720 back there it's not your fault but hold on we one sec guys i'm oh man hold on how long has it been like

02:12:17.520 that just like just just right now okay hang tight guys uh ella can you take over for just a sec

02:12:23.840 sure so ladies y'all be online dating sometimes have you ever done it yeah do y'all think

02:12:32.160 anybody can go do y'all think it's a major difference of online dating as of as opposed

02:12:36.960 to offline today's time was really like the same thing it's like all men i think are like kind of

02:12:41.200 pieces of when it comes to dating say that again say it again a lot of men are pieces of

02:12:46.160 shit when it comes to dating no matter if it's met on you sound like i thought now you blame andrew

02:12:52.800 for being negative you being negative i said a lot of men are but honestly yeah i think online dating

02:12:59.280 has gotten like more i would say more sexualized now than it was back then because remember you

02:13:06.240 used to use like like what's it called timber timber tender yeah like tinder or something like

02:13:13.520 that and then like you and people would go on there to find friends like i remember doing that

02:13:16.960 shit in high school yeah um you was on tinder in high school yeah like to like for girls you know like

02:13:21.840 to make friends and stuff from other high schools and stuff oh and i made a friend and she took me to

02:13:25.760 her homecoming you couldn't just be on facebook you had to be on tinder to meet a girl i didn't have

02:13:29.840 facebook i wasn't i was like yeah it was it was it was mainly like social media wasn't like allowed so

02:13:35.280 i was like which but the date net was though no i was yeah like i used it for french things but

02:13:40.800 like now everyone used like people really believe that like it's for hooking up now but i think back

02:13:45.040 then it really wasn't like i think we're all online dating whether you're on the app or not i think

02:13:49.360 if you're talking if you have a social media account you're online dating because a lot of

02:13:53.360 people they don't just meet on the apps they meet on instagram they meet on facebook so i think we've

02:13:56.800 all we're all just online facebook is crazy the only issue with like i would say like a dating app is

02:14:03.120 like you're you actively have a lot of options so let's say you match with someone today and you

02:14:10.640 start talking to them you like them they're pretty chill and then like two days later you match with

02:14:14.320 someone you really find attractive and it's like you're not going to be talking to the person you

02:14:18.560 think it's too it's like option overload because there's so many people that you could choose from

02:14:22.000 so you never really make that choice yeah like back then it was like okay like my friend told me

02:14:27.760 this actually but he's like oh back then it's like very rare that you see like a baddie

02:14:32.880 like too often i mean i don't really understand that because i see fine women everywhere that i go

02:14:37.200 but um back then it's like i guess for women it's like oh it's like it's very rare to find like a

02:14:44.240 good-looking guy but now with the internet and social media it's like you find a good-looking guy like

02:14:50.080 every so you see good-looking women all the time but you don't see good-looking men all the time

02:14:54.880 yeah yeah basically y'all gotta stop

02:14:58.560 like i'm also a person that like i would prefer to meet someone in public you know i mean like

02:15:02.720 oh we run into each other at the coffee shop yeah and we both find each other but i think it goes

02:15:06.720 for both like sex as it's like men always are looking for male validation and women are always

02:15:12.240 looking for woman validation you know i don't but that's not necessarily true like yeah but it is

02:15:17.280 true no it's not but just like you you can't you can't men do stuff to impress other men you can't be

02:15:22.800 on andrew about painting everything with a broad brush and you turn around and do the same thing because i don't

02:15:27.280 give a damn what another dude think about who i'm with like i don't think men do that that's not true

02:15:32.320 i know a lot of guys my age i think what's pushed to y'all is that but i don't think men care i see a

02:15:37.680 lot of men that look better than the women they with i see a lot of guys in shape with a woman that

02:15:41.600 may not be in the best shape because i treat her so i don't think that's necessarily true for my

02:15:46.400 personal experience don't let them off the hook on answering if they do their nails and makeup for

02:15:52.000 men or for themselves brian how did he totally shifted the conversation i don't know how that

02:15:58.560 fucking i turned that shit off bro what the fuck they're hacking you oh my god fucking cox is dog

02:16:05.840 shit yo are we chat are we back chat are we back or no is it still scott um hold on boys i'm gonna try

02:16:13.840 something we're probably gonna are we back boys are we back chat one in the chat if we're back

02:16:20.240 one in the chat sorry did we lose the twitch we might have lost the twitch unfortunate hold on

02:16:26.560 let me see if we're still live on twitch though i don't know

02:16:30.160 did it restart the twitch stream oh it did that's fucking bullshit

02:16:34.080 it's my contact hold on i'll just leave it here for a sec sorry guys internet internet's

02:16:45.040 all fucked up boys i'm gonna try to fix it i don't know what's going on

02:16:50.960 uh all right one sec guys i got to go back there and fix that go ahead continue to come

02:16:55.440 up yeah what was he talking about with uh we're talking about how men like to impress

02:16:59.600 men you was talking that bullshit about how all you see all these beautiful women but all these

02:17:03.680 ugly duckling and boos walking down the street absolutely that's not you guys you can't be biased

02:17:08.160 sweetheart you're being biased right now i'm sorry my eye really hurts that's crazy that's crazy

02:17:15.360 no but it is y'all think it's way more beautiful women out here than there's attractive

02:17:19.360 guys in your everyday life i feel like there's a lot more women who put effort into it's also because

02:17:24.000 a lot of girls yeah what do you define effort but like men don't have to put that much effort

02:17:28.720 like i mean one your guys size it's effort you know what i mean like y'all don't eat the cat

02:17:33.280 in springfield for women it's not it's like a pride it's like an expectation like getting ready oh if

02:17:39.440 you don't get ready if you just go out and like the like how you just woke up fresh off the shower

02:17:44.400 to men that's like absolutely a no no you need to absolutely get ready because then if you're not

02:17:49.520 ready you're a bum you're whatever you don't pay attention you're lazy get ready mean look

02:17:53.680 presentable to the world it don't mean put on a pound of makeup be ready means you got on a clean

02:17:58.240 top some clean shoes your nails is you don't have to be done your nails don't even got to be painted

02:18:02.720 as long as you have naturally like my mother you got pretty nails she don't even got to do all that

02:18:06.240 like you got pretty hands you got pretty hands oh thank you men don't care about men don't care

02:18:10.640 nothing about that so i'm glad it just means show up it doesn't mean you got to be the worst internet

02:18:16.480 service provider everyone is saying it yeah i'm glad i'm glad you don't know like the regular

02:18:23.600 shit because that's what we're going to wake up to no yeah and i'm going to wake up to the makeup

02:18:27.200 face no yeah i'm glad i'm glad you don't care about that like that's honestly a lot of men don't

02:18:31.040 though no that's a slay honestly yeah but you would be surprised a lot of guys are into like the no

02:18:35.760 makeup hair up right and then like sweatpants and like men are just so okay you show i've done this

02:18:42.320 to my friends where i show up them a picture of a woman who's wearing makeup but it's a no makeup

02:18:47.120 look and then you ask them are they wearing makeup and they're like no like no you don't wake up with

02:18:51.280 rosy ass cheeks and mascara on and men just think like that's oh that's an expectation like

02:18:56.400 women wake up like that no like that you're talking to one right now we do not think that

02:19:01.440 like we don't i'm telling you we don't we like maybe the guys you talk to it depends on the

02:19:06.000 demographic where they live at what they into i don't know but men like you looking naturally

02:19:11.600 pretty because that's the real you i don't want to see the mascara all the time because that's not

02:19:16.080 who i'm laying with when i wake up i don't want you to like two different people i have a question

02:19:20.160 for you overlord yo that voice is crazy funny okay so would you say that like when

02:19:28.080 okay so you would prefer women without makeup so let's say you then she's so let's say you're

02:19:32.000 into you don't need it because some yeah i understand because one thing i have learned

02:19:35.520 bangs wild women got a big giant size so if she look in the mirror and she don't like her natural

02:19:41.040 skin complexion and she don't like how she naturally look you you gotta she's gonna do what she gotta

02:19:45.120 do to feel confident if you got a skin problem let's say you met a girl you don't need to like

02:19:49.280 let's say you're into a girl with like like a you know she wears a good amount of makeup you know the

02:19:53.760 whole deal right there and then like then then she took off her makeup but she looks completely

02:20:00.320 different would you still fuck with her if you met her and the only time you this is your first time ever

02:20:04.960 seeing her without makeup and now she looks completely different without makeup would you

02:20:09.040 still look with her i would it depends on how drastic it would it would be you know what i'm

02:20:13.520 saying because it's like that's not you you know what i'm saying so it could it might it's like but

02:20:18.160 like her personality is like off the charts like she's amazing person and the only thing that's

02:20:21.920 different is her face but i'm saying men are still visual you know what i'm saying so it's like

02:20:27.360 that how you present yourself is a part of your personality too because if you're so self-conscious

02:20:31.920 about how you look that says something about your mindset yeah as well so if you're so caught

02:20:36.480 up in your face over everything i don't find that as i don't find that attractive because that says a

02:20:42.880 lot about your mentality as well like you should be comfortable in your own skin at some point because

02:20:47.760 it's like when women be online and like to make them angles and make their butt look like something

02:20:51.360 like yo the gym pose the gym pose yeah you know just show who you really are so you can attract who

02:20:56.320 really wants you not who you not your salesman that you're trying to sell to the world like be yourself

02:21:00.640 i feel like when you put out your real stuff you get a real result you get a real response

02:21:04.800 yeah they're trying to figure out the thing

02:21:06.240 chat

02:21:06.560 i guess i might be on salary man you got me hosting nah though but um

02:21:17.840 what do you how do y'all feel about um is the height thing really a big deal to y'all

02:21:20.880 height height no not for me

02:21:25.520 i think it is for me because like i like to wear heroes heels so if i were everybody's go to the heels

02:21:30.320 stage yeah because but like how is it gonna work if i'm wearing heels and then i'm like

02:21:34.800 towering over you but i'm kind of like i like that i like that feeling we know you like it how tall

02:21:39.280 are you i'm five i'm five four like five four five three five four i have a response for you but

02:21:44.000 like yes i like you know my guys being like five five i always say the same thing because i'm four

02:21:48.880 eleven i love short people always ask me like why do i like tom because i always go for tall men

02:21:53.520 i only say it because i want tall kids so like okay if i'm gonna be 50 50 i'm gonna try 50 50 you

02:22:00.960 know they're either gonna get be short because of me or they're gonna be tall because of their dad

02:22:04.160 so yeah i just in the middle yeah a good height at least you know if they're 5'9 at least they're

02:22:09.440 yeah they're a good height you tried i feel it i feel that what about you height is the deal breaker

02:22:15.520 as long as they're taller than me how tall are you seeing a little height five six oh yeah

02:22:22.480 but i won't never i won't probably won't i can like i wouldn't be like i will turn a guy down

02:22:26.800 because he's tall i wouldn't do that if he's like just happened to be tall sure but like i like my

02:22:32.240 short kings like that's it that's it like for you i love that why you like short dudes because i

02:22:37.920 like i like somebody you want to talk down to no i like the portion of them like when you're hugging

02:22:42.080 someone not doing that whole hugging thing you know like you don't want to hurt yes like i don't

02:22:46.160 want to do all that reaching i want right there yeah like it's literally just right there and then

02:22:54.320 when you cuddle it's just like your body's just kind of formed together yeah travel size yeah it

02:22:59.360 makes sense that's why i like short guys man hey shout out to the short dude she she's looking for your

02:23:04.640 highlighter a lot of short dude you're saying i can't get girls come on get get into the mic oh i'm

02:23:09.520 sorry i'm sorry a lot of short dudes be complaining about you know women don't want them and stuff

02:23:13.040 like that so yeah there's women out there like me definitely that's what's up that's what's up but i

02:23:18.240 think also women should also be open to being with short guys or at least a little bit taller than them

02:23:24.560 they should definitely consider it because you'll be surprised what kind of like good men are out

02:23:29.760 there like so how y'all feel about the 50 50 i think we ain't really getting into the conversation do

02:23:34.080 y'all think a man should pay everything or it should be half honestly i think it's it should be 50

02:23:39.360 50 because i don't i don't think that men should have like i don't for me i also like i don't know

02:23:47.120 i just think that men put too much pressure on them trying to be that guy and so like i think trying

02:23:53.120 for me it's more like i have enough assertiveness to be able to say like it's fine let me do it like

02:23:59.200 you know for us like i like that like i like to be but you're not gonna try to flex on them later

02:24:02.800 though no no like no because like i like when i do go on dates you know i i'll even offer to go

02:24:07.040 half and half like you know i mean because i'm like i just want to be like oh i just know that

02:24:11.520 i'm not like i'm not like uh what do you say gold digger i guess or like people that are just after

02:24:17.200 money or people that you know those girls are like oh if you don't have money you ain't good enough for

02:24:20.960 me like so y'all don't say so how much does a man need to earn to be with y'all starting with miss uh

02:24:27.680 bangs a lot what's a lot miss bangs like yearly yeah i don't know because the economy is always

02:24:35.040 changing so right now how much a man needs to date and make to date with you how much you gotta make

02:24:39.760 um oh i don't know i really don't know a lot of money i don't know i just gotta be comfortable i

02:24:45.760 really don't know all right 70 000 is good no more like 100 000 maybe more hey you tripping how

02:24:54.160 much half a half a half a million half a million is crazy maybe yeah more are you being serious or

02:25:00.560 you just being funny no i i want to be comfortable and honestly so far like you do only fans right

02:25:08.800 yeah bro those those girls be making money yeah but that's that's that's not that's a whole

02:25:14.240 other conversation i don't know i feel like only fans no offense but i think people who make money

02:25:18.720 from only fans they think money is so easy to garner because you get money from that route so you expect

02:25:25.040 other men to be able to make with that i'm saying but not a lot of men though but most men men who got

02:25:30.400 to that level of income worked very hard to get there so i think a lot of women who get into only

02:25:35.200 fans but you can just basically just show up show a little something something and make the earnings

02:25:39.920 of a doctor or a lawyer or athlete they think that they that line of work equates them to someone who

02:25:45.680 went to school for 10 to 8 years and it's it's really not the same thing so i don't know i think

02:25:49.520 it's a false sense like an easy way value equivalence it's like he went to school for 10 years you just

02:25:54.880 open up uh only fans and you got the same thing he got in a short amount of time but that don't mean

02:25:59.120 you're on the same level to demand that so i don't know i think it's just strange to

02:26:02.960 expect 500 000 for a man can i respond to your 50 50 go ahead i think well personally i think a man

02:26:10.800 should pay for everything but only if i mean it depends on the woman like um personally i work i work

02:26:17.920 four jobs or i did i just quit one but i don't mind being the one to step up when needed but i feel

02:26:23.840 like the kind of man that i would go after the one that has um kind of shares the more conservative

02:26:30.400 value is the one that wants a high value woman i feel like i can be that high value woman for him

02:26:34.640 and i i also want to be a stay-at-home mom so that's also what ties into it so going back to

02:26:39.040 also your income thing i like would i don't care how much they make as long as we have enough to

02:26:43.920 provide for our kids and for a steady house but um i personally think that yeah the man should pay for

02:26:50.400 i feel like that's just kind of how i mean it used to be right like yeah a lot of things used to be a

02:26:55.600 lot of ways but um you know i think with the economy i think i see a lot of women who they

02:27:01.280 get with a guy that got a lot of money and he'll divorce her and she'll take half i think in today's

02:27:06.560 time it's more advantageous for a woman to contribute to something because when things go left you have

02:27:10.800 some equity in it i see too many women who don't have any equity anything doesn't don't pay for any

02:27:14.960 bills just show up and then when the man splits up she wants half of his earnings like you wasn't there

02:27:19.040 when he was playing ball and shooting in the gym so it's like why do you think you need to get half of

02:27:23.520 his earnings and if you want to play that game you need to pay for half of the things don't pay for

02:27:27.680 nothing inspect everything that don't make sense you have no equity in the conversation i think it

02:27:31.360 depends on the situation like what you said like you have a good point but i also think it depends

02:27:35.520 on the situation because a lot of women i mean i'm sorry a lot of men do want women that are stay at

02:27:41.200 home moms that are staying home and raising the kids or doing home school or whatever and honestly

02:27:46.400 that is that's a job like that if women aren't doing that they're going to hire somebody else to

02:27:53.600 do it i was a nanny for a very long time and i was paid very well and if i wasn't doing that the woman

02:28:00.560 was going to be doing it and i feel like there has to be some type of compromise or some type of

02:28:05.520 agreement where it's like okay if you're staying home with the kids and you're doing all this labor

02:28:11.520 you're basic you're not going to be an indentured servant you're obviously going to have you're

02:28:16.560 going to earn some of mine because you're there's no way you're going to i guess commit your life to

02:28:22.240 raising kids and staying at home all the time when you had the chance to have a career but the man

02:28:28.080 say in this situation hypothetically the man said no no no i don't want you to have a career i want

02:28:32.160 you to stay at home and watch the kids okay well therefore i'm not going to be an indentured

02:28:36.720 servant my work has to be paid for because if if i were to be working somebody else is going to have

02:28:43.280 to do it so if you're my wife i have to pay you to take care of our kids no that's not what i'm

02:28:48.800 saying i'm saying there has to be some type of agreement okay i stay home and i raise the kids

02:28:53.840 but somehow there is yeah yeah no yeah but somehow there is a divorce or something happens okay well

02:29:01.680 i just gave up my whole career i'm not gonna i'm not gonna like now what i'm i have nothing i

02:29:07.680 didn't i didn't have a career because my man told me to stay home and take care of the kids

02:29:12.880 no i i need some type of payment for that because i wasted all these years

02:29:17.680 taking care of kids your children be a waste of years it's your children it's no no no i'm saying if

02:29:23.040 i'm not going to be doing it somebody else is going to be doing it that's why people have nannies

02:29:27.120 why that's why people have babysitters i get what you're saying and people if they're not doing if

02:29:33.520 the nanny's not doing it i'm doing it and that's still labor so what if the man has a nanny and a

02:29:38.560 wife so you don't have to do nothing you still think you're entitled to the money when y'all split up

02:29:42.400 when the nanny is really doing everything i don't know it's it depends on the agreement they have

02:29:46.880 that's not my place to decide that's their business but i'm saying that i worked as a nanny for

02:29:52.400 many years and i was paid very very good because taking care of children is a great great

02:29:56.400 responsibility and it takes two to manage a household especially with children

02:30:02.720 okay what about y'all what y'all think

02:30:06.960 did you pay for everything you think you agree with that

02:30:10.480 well i'm a college student right now so i know money is a sensitive topic so it might be back

02:30:18.640 i wouldn't expect them to pay for everything but if we're dating i would want to be like

02:30:22.720 taking out on dates and have them pay first but then as we continue to date i wouldn't mind offering

02:30:28.640 oh do you want me to pay so i think it's just about being aware of the situation yeah you got

02:30:35.520 to reciprocate i think it's nice when a woman went to kick out some time i think just having your hand

02:30:40.560 out for everything is a turn off y'all seem like y'all i think we're back um

02:30:48.000 do you know how to re get stream yard fixed huh

02:30:53.120 minimize that yeah hit try again

02:30:56.240 i don't know since like after the first episode i went on here my first time so i was like

02:31:13.840 i don't know like 2023 i think oh wow oh is it working out for you it's all right but i do want

02:31:20.560 to pursue more here show me over yes give me more only fans no i want to pursue more like i want to

02:31:26.640 i want to be a hustler you know like i want to be i want to have lots of careers i want to accomplish

02:31:32.400 a lot more than one thing yeah i want to do lots of things like so what's your passion um well i did

02:31:38.160 work with kids a lot i love children me too yeah i think i'm really good with kids think so yeah

02:31:44.720 what's your uh passion i like kids too um but i like doing pr like things related to social media

02:31:52.160 so that's what i'm trying to like pursue with my major that what's your passion i don't know like

02:31:58.160 it's i'm still figuring it out honestly like i do work and i like the work that i do but i

02:32:07.280 am kind of in the phase of my life where i want to like travel and be open to new like places people

02:32:15.120 to really like dial in to know like what i want to do i don't really have like a i guess like

02:32:19.840 working out but i wouldn't consider that really a passion i mean why not it keeps my like mentality

02:32:26.560 going like working out like i need to always be like physical like yeah so we'll see come natural

02:32:33.360 too like i think like what i do want to do in the near future i do want to kind of on the side be like

02:32:38.720 a spin cycle instructor i think that'd be really fun because i love that like spin cycling yeah how do you

02:32:44.000 spin the actual cycle um it's like a bike or something i go to grit but there's this what's

02:32:49.040 the most popular one i don't know no no no it's like a no no soul cycle soul cycle soul cycle people

02:32:55.440 need instructions on it okay y'all got some questions for me you know what i'm saying i'm

02:33:02.640 only got the table oh i have one what was your worst dating experience or worst date oh my worst date

02:33:12.960 just with somebody that's rude you know what i'm saying that just not not nice um very loud very

02:33:19.360 aggressive um ask me about money all day you know i'm just a woman who just don't have no no no decorum

02:33:27.360 you know what i'm saying like i like i like i don't want no pushover woman but i don't like women

02:33:31.520 that's you know just very vain and then every time you ask them something it's i don't know i like i

02:33:37.600 like to see what type where a woman's mind is at so i like to see if she got some type of depth

02:33:41.360 you know i might ask you a left field question about physics you know just to see where your head is

02:33:45.520 that you know what i'm saying not just the typical social media banter you know what i'm saying so

02:33:49.600 i don't like a woman that's disrespectful and just like that dumb blonde type of energy you know what

02:33:54.240 i'm saying i don't like that why are you looking at me no no just make eye contact but no ask me

02:34:00.400 something else you know y'all i'll be asking y'all some questions no facts how okay so you where do you

02:34:07.520 where are you living currently north carolina north carolina and do you spend a lot of time there do you

02:34:12.880 come to the west no i'll be over i've been on the east a lot i came out here a few times for the

02:34:17.760 show i got a couple people i know out here but for the most part i'm on the east coast so okay

02:34:21.200 it's a word it's a whole different world like yeah i was gonna ask have you dated over here and over

02:34:26.000 there and how is the dating i haven't dated but i've met women on the west coast yeah and i'm gonna say

02:34:32.480 that the ones that i've met was a little weird like you know what i'm saying where in the west

02:34:39.680 coast were you meeting them what city specifically i was in la you know there you go but they're very

02:34:46.560 very um not too much extremely extremely liberal you know the ones i've met on it in a dating um

02:34:55.680 environment very very liberal they wanted my opinion on liberal topics that i really don't care about

02:35:02.000 it's like on the first date man yeah man you know i met a real nice girl we went to finish reason she

02:35:07.920 wanted to know how i felt about certain gender perspectives and it's like i don't want to talk

02:35:13.760 about this man you know i'm saying on the first night so i feel like women over here seems a very

02:35:18.000 very tied to a lot of liberal um views yeah and they want to know how you feel about it going off on

02:35:25.440 that is that a deal breaker for you could you date someone who has a complete opposite political stance

02:35:31.120 as you or mary actually is a better word i don't know if i could because it's like say if we and

02:35:37.280 i'm personally done with children but if i might want to have a child that might be an issue because

02:35:42.560 it's like okay i believe this and if you believe that i don't want the child to be unevenly yoked and

02:35:47.440 trying to find you know pick which side to go so that might be a deal breaker dating no but when it

02:35:52.560 comes to joining lives i think yeah definitely so are your views like sorry are you conservative

02:35:58.480 like conservative are you christian or like what do you i mean i was raised a christian i later on

02:36:03.840 became a muslim i look at it like this you can do what you want i just don't want to deal with it you

02:36:10.240 know what i'm saying i feel like i don't want to say something that's evil or good i just feel like

02:36:14.640 cause and effect i feel like we live in a world where man and woman is the dynamic to create life

02:36:19.280 so if you want to go against that that's your prerogative but you're going against the grain

02:36:24.480 of the vibration of the planet that we on not saying it's good not saying it's bad i don't agree

02:36:29.440 with it if you want to go against that social spiritual grain because that's how you feel go

02:36:34.800 ahead but it just comes with a lot of upheaval like you know what i'm saying so i'm personally

02:36:39.440 are you like the type of guy that would ask a girl's body count on the first date no because i

02:36:44.800 feel like there's no way to really find that out right so do i care if she's been with a bunch

02:36:48.800 of guys absolutely but not to be funny but i don't really believe a woman say yeah i only

02:36:53.920 have five dude it's like okay you know anything i can't prove i'm not going to waste time trying

02:36:58.640 to figure out so do you believe that she's a virgin i do believe she's a virgin you know

02:37:03.040 i do believe both of them are virgins you know what i'm saying but um because of their culture

02:37:07.360 i know yeah yeah asian culture is very very structured you know what i'm saying when it's so

02:37:11.920 she could be lying but i'm gonna give her the benefit of the doubt because of how they

02:37:15.520 culturally move throughout the world like the girl that said oh my body counts five like you

02:37:19.600 wouldn't give her the benefit of the doubt depends on who she is um most of the time i probably not

02:37:24.400 she's one of those girls on instagram that take pictures in bikinis i don't believe her

02:37:28.720 yeah but my thing is this though i'm more concerned i said this on last show i'm more concerned with

02:37:33.360 the type of guys the woman dealt with in the past because to me that tells me so would you ask

02:37:38.080 her that like yeah definitely oh that's what i asked i say so what how was your last dude

02:37:42.400 no what was he like what was he into because that that that's going to tell me a lot for example

02:37:47.760 say if i was talking to you if you used to talking to dudes who just you say do this do that do that

02:37:53.040 to me that's let me know you're going to expect that from me so i don't expect anything no i'm just

02:37:57.760 saying in general for example like some women some women they deal with guys that might be hyper

02:38:03.040 masculine or extremely passive so if they're used to those dynamics they're going to expect that from me

02:38:09.360 so who she dealt with before me to me means more than the amount of guys she dealt with yeah true

02:38:15.040 true like i think a lot of people i think women also like and like like change like try to experience

02:38:21.760 like different perspectives on men's and like you know i mean like masculine try out masculine men

02:38:27.840 and try out you know other different types of men so they can like see where they're at like when it

02:38:32.640 comes to like what they like and what yeah that's how you grow your type isn't it yeah because it's like

02:38:36.240 if i if you was dealing with a dude who used to deal with a bunch of strippers wouldn't that change

02:38:39.920 when when you feel intimidated to a degree because you might not know what he expects from you because

02:38:43.920 like you keep dealing with a bunch of strip type of women stripper type of women what do you expect

02:38:48.640 for me moving forward because i'm nothing like her you know what i'm saying so i think the type of

02:38:51.760 people we date says a lot more than the amount we honestly yeah no i would i would honestly if that

02:38:56.160 was question was asked about me i would have gone up from that table and walked out because i'm like

02:39:00.000 we are living in the present let's live in the present so you're saying so a man can't ask you about your exes no i don't want to talk about it

02:39:05.920 that's in the past let's move on let's move on see i'm gonna thank you hi or something yeah but

02:39:10.240 that's my business why you got i just met you why are you i mean we're gonna know each other yeah but

02:39:14.800 some things like you just like you know that's my ex you know like we should talk about what we want

02:39:19.680 yeah and i think a lot of girls don't like it when guys talk about their ex i hate that yeah i hate that

02:39:24.800 so it's like why should i talk about my ex if i don't want you talking about your ex i hate that

02:39:29.120 that's what i'm gonna say boy so much for all this opening up emotionally huh no but like you

02:39:35.280 no one has to talk about like your past i don't know if we do discord i don't know if we have the

02:39:39.520 bandwidth for discord to be honest we can try i i'm our internet is absolutely fucked uh i don't know

02:39:47.840 if andrew can hear us but i think he can i think he just talked yeah i can i can hear you guys so

02:39:53.120 apparently uh we have do we have video on andrew yeah you can re-enable stream yard um yeah apparently

02:40:03.920 there's that's well yeah i mean that's uh that's totally fine if um you know if the if the internet

02:40:12.800 bogs down too bad or whatever we still have uh we still have three shows left um we can we can just

02:40:18.160 do it that way yeah i'm we'll we'll let it go for a little bit um i had to so apparently cox is down

02:40:26.080 statewide cox internet down it's not just us down statewide um i uh figured that out we switched over

02:40:36.880 to our backup internet which is not ideal optimal not ideal but we'll try to continue but in the event

02:40:45.600 that there's any further hiccups just so we preserve our bandwidth andrew we're gonna have

02:40:51.600 to just completely uh exit out of discord because it's just gonna consume too much no problem and

02:40:57.040 we'll we'll send the raid over from the crucible these things happen yeah and and i was trying to

02:41:02.800 get it it was working for a bit then it stopped because i was trying to get back our hardwired internet

02:41:08.560 but it's just out statewide so we're back to our secondary internet i do apologize to uh everybody

02:41:16.000 who uh who was on the loading screen for i don't know it took us maybe 20 or 30 minutes but we are

02:41:22.880 back we do have one or two chats that i would like to uh get to while we're here we have lucas thank you

02:41:30.320 for the uh for the uh stream labs donation man really appreciate it he says no i don't ambulance chase i'm

02:41:36.320 a commercial real estate attorney in new york city i was a giga chad now i'm just stuck with a

02:41:40.160 midlife vanity crisis but i still bench 300 pounds and he is still the prize commercial real estate

02:41:48.000 attorney he's just being humble he does handle duis murder i need you and is he trolling got three

02:41:59.120 years probation some other stuff so lucas w's in chat for lucas guys we have uh just gerald yo

02:42:05.840 can you pull can you open up a tab go just type in frontier internet find us i'm gonna do a free

02:42:12.000 promo for frontier internet uh just gerald says this sudden stream drop was brought to you by cox

02:42:18.480 internet put your faith in cox and blah blah blah blank blank blank uh yeah you're cox your friends in

02:42:25.040 the digital age uh fucking cox absolute dog shit internet uh it was good it's been good recently but

02:42:31.760 i don't know what's been going on today um yeah as soon as frontier is available i'm switching

02:42:39.760 immediately is there like star starlink is that a thing i don't know is that good for streaming

02:42:45.520 it's again bro what happened a fucking cox with the matrix attack andrew can you still hear us

02:42:51.040 andrew can you hear us hello andrew i can't i can't so far yeah okay we're on our end it's looking

02:42:58.880 like we just totally dropped our stream kill listen kill the discord yeah right that's it's bogging you

02:43:06.080 down when we're just going to send the radio and i'll see you next show hey just wait hey andrew hang

02:43:11.440 tight for just a sec you can you still hear us andrew i can yeah okay we're gonna hear we're but we're

02:43:18.320 glitching a bit like our feed that we're sending you yeah okay uh giving you down bro no i don't

02:43:25.920 think i don't think it's you i just think um here just hang tight for a little bit okay no problem

02:43:31.840 if it continues for another like five minutes or so we'll just we'll just have to unfortunately

02:43:38.080 very unfortunately uh call it a uh i guess uh we'll see let's see how it goes it i it's going to

02:43:45.200 resolve itself any minute now um are you thinking about wrapping your stream andrew or what are you

02:43:50.560 what are you going to do it yeah if i mean we've what's going on is i can i can literally see what's

02:43:57.200 happening on the discord side and uh it is it is the connection is dropping then coming back very

02:44:04.400 quickly then dropping um it it just looks like we're we're actually bogging you down that's not normal at

02:44:11.360 all um i i i actually think it would be better for the whatever podcast tonight to just send over the

02:44:17.680 big raid um at peak here what if um what if we tried this andrew what if because sometimes these

02:44:24.880 internet issues tend to resolve themselves within an hour or two uh would you want to hop back on stream

02:44:31.920 sure in like an hour or two how does that sound yeah yep when it resolves and i'll hop back on yeah

02:44:37.120 we'll call again in a couple hours yeah we'll um i'll shoot you a text i'll check in on the status

02:44:41.920 of the internet i think maybe just for now that's the the best thing i think that's the best thing

02:44:47.840 andrew we'll just give you a call you'll see you'll see a raid here in the next few minutes thanks guys

02:44:52.400 it was very nice to meet all of you bangs even though we had our back and forth i hold no ill will

02:44:57.600 whatsoever uh and we'll see you next time all right we'll call you back later andrew um

02:45:02.960 wait who is that we did that at the same time

02:45:08.480 thank you andrew do you know how to just completely like control task or what's it called uh

02:45:15.360 windows task manager out of discord i just want to shut the whole thing down you sure yeah okay

02:45:22.400 you got the task manager all right uh just be very careful obviously we don't want to close

02:45:30.080 out anything else but just completely close out can you bring it over just so i can see

02:45:35.600 put it where the chat is sorry guys we're getting back on track here

02:45:41.040 yeah just show me where the chat is just drag it over

02:45:45.760 no just where the stream labs tab is on the main monitor

02:45:48.800 just drag it over oh that's a bit too big

02:45:54.400 minimize minimize uh obs just so i can see it yeah

02:46:00.560 all right uh so why don't you here yeah get rid of discord

02:46:07.120 do you know how to do it here let me just do it

02:46:12.960 is it just me or does anyone else want to touch his beard what'd you say what'd you say is it just me or

02:46:18.080 or am i the only one that wants to touch his beard that's all you know because i know that's

02:46:23.760 oh no that's only that's only because it looks it's it looks so full like like like it looks brushed

02:46:28.880 out it looks brushed out you know what i mean it looks so like clean i heard it was a earthquake

02:46:37.440 a couple days ago it wasn't it wasn't norcal wait at those oh it's slow considered norcal yeah

02:46:43.680 because it's like a little higher up um like like i think near humble and

02:46:50.320 so so it's funny right i looked up some another day they said that california has more it has the

02:46:54.720 most cheaters per state that's like four cities in the california but you know what's funny they said

02:47:01.680 the most faithful state was new jersey yeah more than like more than like mid like south like

02:47:09.360 all right the mid states they have four states from cali it's like the best most states with the

02:47:13.600 cheaters yeah i believe the california well there's also a lot more people in california

02:47:19.040 then more people more options more things to do more things to do in california so you go out

02:47:23.920 yeah i see more people like clubbing and stuff like it's like it's definitely a party city you

02:47:29.440 know i mean like party here you think it's hard to date in california yes definitely 100 it's too

02:47:35.360 like it's such a party city like everyone's partying like yeah you ever been to the east

02:47:40.240 coast yeah you ever dated men from the east coast no y'all just date with cali guys no i maybe i do

02:47:47.200 midwester's i well yeah the guy i was with for five years i was i dated him when i was in nebraska

02:47:52.560 west where huh where nebraska omaha that's that's wow so y'all never date y'all how y'all feel about

02:48:00.320 long distance dating do you think that's a possibility you have to have a lot of trust

02:48:04.640 yeah definitely that's why i broke up with my ex it's not even trust like i just don't think if

02:48:08.320 you're physically next to each other like it's not gonna work out i'm a needy person i did it for a

02:48:14.480 year how far away respect uh tennessee i don't know i think these days it's more i think people are more

02:48:23.360 open to it now because with the internet you're not limited to just who's around you because sometimes

02:48:28.720 your person may not be in your area i know but also if people cheat when you're in the same

02:48:33.680 city they're gonna cheat when you're not even in the same state so it'd be a lot easier i mean but

02:48:39.440 if they're gonna cheat they're gonna cheat whether they're around the corner that's true it's easier

02:48:43.200 when you guys aren't in close proximity i think sometimes you're dating out of town you're forced

02:48:49.840 to get to know the person who they are because you got to talk i think sometimes you're too close you

02:48:54.000 can get caught up in the vanity of seeing each other and just you know the surface level connection but

02:48:58.160 you realize you don't know each other because y'all just went straight it seems like today people

02:49:01.040 just eat go out to eat and they start getting intimate that's how that's not really how you

02:49:05.520 build a relationship yeah i agree because that's how i got really like that man was like my best

02:49:09.920 friend and we only got really close because all we did was talk all the time and we have to like

02:49:14.560 you just have to i have a question what's up do you think girls can be friends with guys no i don't

02:49:20.800 i think we can as long as there's strict boundaries i think they are as long as you're able to

02:49:28.560 establish the boundaries i mean i have a guy best friend so i i think we cannot because i've been

02:49:36.320 best friends with him for like would you would you let your boyfriend they have a girlfriend it

02:49:41.520 depends if they've had those friends before but as long as if you make new friends after we start

02:49:47.520 dating i think that's a little weird okay but if they if you knew them before we're dating then

02:49:52.480 like i'm not going to tell you who and who not to be friends with or who to be around i think when

02:49:57.680 you single is cool but i think once you get into a safe relationship i think it has to tone down a

02:50:01.200 lot yeah like would you like would you like let your boyfriend like let's say his girl best friend

02:50:06.320 came up to him and hugged him would that be okay i think it's fine just like no boundaries is it like

02:50:12.000 just a quick hook yeah like it was like it was like oh that's weird that's weird that's weird

02:50:17.680 what about the under like the no that's weirder like just a side hug just just like that okay like

02:50:24.800 that them up why do you have to hug them but it's like if they've been hugging yeah like if they've

02:50:30.080 been hugging beforehand like before like before you guys were dating i think it's fine and then if you

02:50:35.520 have an issue being vulnerable bring that up hey i don't feel like it's okay or it makes me a little

02:50:40.560 weird with you doing that i think the only way they could be friends is if both of you find each

02:50:44.560 other unattractive right but even then when you get to know someone their personality like i don't

02:50:49.520 know i feel like eventually someone falls for the other person and at that point you can't be friends

02:50:53.440 yeah because people trauma dump and that kind of brings in the whole connection part yeah i don't

02:50:58.080 understand you i can't i've already like i've had guy friends and i can't do it and i've had

02:51:02.080 men who have girlfriends and i can't do it yeah like with your guy best friend like has anyone told

02:51:07.840 you that like if he was dating someone like if he was dating someone i would respect the girlfriend

02:51:13.120 and like not do sus activity and i would what if she told you like oh i don't want you being

02:51:19.200 friends with my boyfriend i think that's insecure about like okay so you also that i've gone through

02:51:24.640 that before my one of my best guy friends that i like grew up with and everything his mom gave my mom

02:51:30.400 maternity clothes when she was pregnant with him and then he got a girlfriend and she didn't want

02:51:35.680 like us hanging out anymore and we didn't hang out anymore and then we and then we finally sorry we

02:51:41.840 finally reconnected again after they broke up and honestly it happens i have to respect that if i was

02:51:47.040 in a would you consider her insecure for that well if i was in a relationship and i saw because he and

02:51:52.080 i were really really close so you would be like you'd hug him like you do that like them no not like that

02:51:56.640 but we were really close emotionally and like you know we grew up so we like knew a lot of stuff about

02:52:01.360 each other and we were very close like yeah emotionally like we you know but um no yeah i

02:52:08.000 i could under i could see how that could make her upset and if i was in that situation i you know i'd

02:52:13.360 do the same thing honestly so you i don't blame her do you believe that uh because you weren't here but

02:52:17.920 do you believe that girls can be friends with guys and like like have like a platonic relationship

02:52:22.800 like just friends like yeah absolutely okay i feel like it also depends if the girl best friend is

02:52:27.680 is like actively trying to get to know the girlfriend because okay so she's like present

02:52:32.320 like yeah and then there's some girl best friends who like or like oh your girlfriend your girlfriend

02:52:39.120 is like really controlling like trying to break them up i think it's about respect you know i think

02:52:42.880 it's had a friend like yeah it's about respect like i have i guess i mean not a lot but i have a few

02:52:49.120 amount of guy friends they're all such cuties to me you know like but they're not like i wouldn't see

02:52:54.640 them that way and if their girls decided that they didn't want to talk to me then honestly

02:52:59.760 so be it yeah so be it's yeah it's their relationship i'm not gonna don't believe that

02:53:04.160 guys can be friends with girls or switch around like i just leave it i just can't be selfish and

02:53:08.480 be like no you're my friend you can't hang like that's his girl you know like that's their love

02:53:13.680 interest i'm not fulfilling them in the way that that girl is fulfilling them you know she's providing

02:53:18.960 more than i could provide but do you but like do you guys think to like being with like as a guy

02:53:24.640 would you say that if you have girlfriends like that are friends like do you believe that guys

02:53:29.840 just want to fuck them that's why they're friends with them i think that can happen this is the thing

02:53:34.160 women gotta realize all men want to fuck you but that doesn't mean he's going to act on it i think

02:53:40.560 women got to stop acting like my girlfriend would never yeah he would but that don't mean that's what

02:53:46.080 he wants to do but it's nature like if you're an attractive if i got female friends i'll crap

02:53:51.280 we don't mess around but i would but that doesn't but i'm but i don't i can live without it it's not

02:53:55.840 like i gotta do it but sex and intimacy is not hard but they do think about it like i mean you're

02:54:02.720 women yeah you know what i'm saying like if you're an attractive woman and we cool it's gonna cross my

02:54:08.240 mind but i think uh it's just a matter of having the ability to turn tone that down but to pretend like

02:54:14.240 oh my friend would never yeah he would he just mature enough not to act on it but i think women

02:54:18.800 lie to themselves when they think oh my god friend don't like me like that you're crazy as hell he'll

02:54:23.040 do it he just can still be with your friends be friends with you despite doing that but don't think

02:54:27.920 he won't yes he would yeah and i think this also like kind of leads into the conversation of like

02:54:34.480 women have the power to like make that are in control of that happening because as you said like

02:54:40.000 men like the guy friend he like he definitely would hook up with you so yeah that the woman

02:54:45.280 is the one that's in power like in charge and the one that's in power of like okay like are we friends

02:54:50.400 or are we gonna are we gonna be like something more than that you know if she likes him you know

02:54:55.280 what i'm saying but all men would would crack they friend yeah just like sometimes i don't care what

02:54:59.840 he tells you they just don't act on it basically yeah he just don't act on it but he does yeah because

02:55:05.120 sometimes sometimes having a female friend get you girls yeah you know what i'm saying you just pop

02:55:09.360 out with your female friend she cute you know now other girls want to talk to you just because she

02:55:13.520 with you so or you could have the female friend go up to girls and be like oh like talk good about

02:55:17.840 you basically i know guys yeah that happens a lot at bars or clubs or whatever wait wouldn't you

02:55:22.800 want like if you have a like a girlfriend like a friend who's a girl and then they go up to

02:55:27.920 certain people are like oh you see that one over there yeah like he's really cute i already like

02:55:31.520 like like talk them up basically yeah oh that's okay that's nice i like that little pick and roll

02:55:36.080 okay i never did that i might have to try that i know i definitely played a role in some of my

02:55:41.120 friends like guy friends like their i don't think that'll help that'll work for us though i think if

02:55:46.480 a dude went up to another girl like yo my man yo he's pretty she ain't gonna give a damn what you

02:55:50.800 talking about that's true too i don't think i don't think most women like it when the friend does it

02:55:55.200 for you it's like why can't you come up yeah yeah yeah like why is there have you ever had like

02:56:00.720 one of your exes or situationships ever go for your friend after your it's over thank god no but

02:56:08.480 i fear for the day that i know but i've i've had it does because that means like that situationships

02:56:14.880 is like i i what i take the term is it's like someone you're just talking to and you're talking

02:56:18.960 with them like like every day that's a situationship and like you're building that

02:56:23.520 like date you're getting to that dating status basically that's i think that's what it is so

02:56:27.920 it's really important that like i know that because mind you you introduced them and stuff like all

02:56:32.560 right so guys i believe i believe the internet issues should be fixed absent another cox communications

02:56:41.120 internet outage i do apologize for the interruption it should be a hundred percent fixed right now the

02:56:48.400 connection looks good on our end let me just ask the chat though chat refresh the stream

02:56:53.440 sounds like only uh is it okay guys chat is it okay i think it should be fixed now uh

02:57:02.720 i think we'll be able to get andrew back in here pretty soon but one in the chat if it is good one in

02:57:08.400 the chat if the stream is looking good two in the chat if you are still having any sort of if there's any lag

02:57:15.120 audio issues video issues oh you've got to be kidding me bro oh my goodness what happened are you serious

02:57:22.880 uh that's massive l major l i don't think they want bro

02:57:32.560 his bangs fall yep no it really is somebody told me i have a negative entity following me probably it's

02:57:38.400 definitely i'm not even lying it's definitely it's definitely what the january 4th it's coming

02:57:44.240 oh it's back up oh it's back is it back oh it's back again boys holy

02:57:49.120 shit absolutely scuffed this is for cox internet that's a fucking dkp minus what the

02:57:56.800 fuck was that dude fucking cox your dog

02:58:01.120 shit i didn't even know that can i ask a question real quick about the internet

02:58:05.440 that was me but what what so when it goes down and you're like oh it's down and sound that means

02:58:10.080 it's like cut off completely everywhere like no one can see us um or it's still streaming somewhere

02:58:15.680 because you're saying discord and then i'm getting confused it could be streaming but like

02:58:19.760 we're still recording the episode so like when this goes up the playback maybe not on youtube but

02:58:26.080 the whatever the people seeing it live can't see it but the people that will see it on youtube later

02:58:29.920 will be maybe sometimes youtube will cut those parts out but like we're still recording the full

02:58:36.000 like everything that's going on even during the outages it's still recording so if whatever we put

02:58:41.040 out on spotify for example everything will go on spotify i don't know how it's going to look

02:58:45.520 on youtube sometimes it'll like basically remove chunks of stuff so we will see glitches yo chat

02:58:53.440 one in the chat if it's okay now one in the chat if it's okay now uh we're gonna get right back into

02:58:57.840 the show hopefully uh i also can we pull up um pull up the window tab i'm gonna do a free i'm

02:59:05.840 gonna do a free sponsorship for shout out for frontier internet guys go to frontier internet.com

02:59:12.720 fuck cox communications they've got a fucking monopoly in our area uh well they used to until frontier

02:59:19.360 came in with a big swinging dick and then they're like fuck you cox so all right guys this is this is

02:59:25.920 a free promo they're not paying me for this shit promo for front people scroll up to the top frontier

02:59:31.520 internet i don't care what if you're in a different area and you there's a choice besides cox get whatever

02:59:38.080 the other choice is frontier internet i don't care what whatever it is anyways i'm gonna get um i don't

02:59:45.040 know we're i'm gonna see about starlink after this because that was ridiculous uh very unfortunate

02:59:50.240 very i have a backup internet people are saying brian why don't you get we have a backup internet

02:59:55.120 and it's a like verizon 5g or something like i don't know what it is exactly whatever who cares

03:00:00.560 we're gonna i'm gonna look into starlink okay let's get back into the show let's get back into the

03:00:04.880 show we'll try to call andrew a little bit later i do want to give it a bit of time to you know figure

03:00:10.080 itself out so okay we're going through the notes i'll we're going to chloe wait is it okay if she

03:00:16.000 she answered if she answers my question i asked earlier about what about what the uh french like

03:00:22.880 when like if situationships or your ex-boyfriend has gone with your friends after the situation was

03:00:27.840 over i wanted to hear what she had to say though okay go ahead okay i'll show really quick um but

03:00:32.320 basically he like messes her and then i brought it up i was like oh i'm not comfortable with it and then

03:00:37.360 he continued to be friends with her i was like okay and then yeah it was just bad oh

03:00:43.440 i stopped talking to him though sorry okay uh so going back into the notes time period to ask

03:00:49.360 someone on the first date i think we were i think pretty much got through that entire conversation

03:00:55.360 uh you also wanted to talk about age gaps the gap the age gap between 21 and 24 is way different

03:01:00.480 from 26 and 29 uh so what what exactly is your thing on age gaps chloe just for

03:01:07.200 that specific like 21 versus 24 versus so 24 year old is too old to be dating a 21 year old yes

03:01:14.080 because the life experience that you have generally speaking everybody has their own experience and

03:01:19.200 timeline but once you turn 24 you're done with college you're like into a year of paying your

03:01:24.400 own bills a year of working and everything versus 21 how long y'all spending in college i don't know

03:01:29.680 some people can't you be done at 21 with college and even better um but usually 21 years old they

03:01:36.320 just turn 21 especially in america there's a lot they're still in college they're still learning a

03:01:41.600 lot about themselves about others and i think 24 is dating somebody who is 24 is such a major gap and

03:01:49.920 experience that i believe they should experience themselves versus say 26 to 29 you've been out of

03:01:56.960 college for a few years you've worked a few years you can you can what's the word

03:02:04.880 i connect a lot easier because you've been years into your work experience career everything

03:02:12.320 and obviously this is me as a person career is important in addition to everything else i've said

03:02:17.920 so for me i think if i was dating

03:02:20.240 first of all i'm not dating somebody younger than me but i think if somebody was 26 and 29 that would

03:02:28.000 make way more sense to me than 21 and 24 that's my thoughts on it um uh anybody else here agree with

03:02:36.960 that uh 21 and 24 is too big of an age gap me no you have objections there no i agree with chloe right

03:02:44.640 yeah you have objections if there was anybody else i don't think that's too much of an age gap i don't

03:02:49.760 i don't i don't i don't think that's i think that's a great um a great um experience gap because

03:02:55.920 at 24 you're still not really old like that and you're fresh removed from what the 21 year old is

03:03:02.400 going through so you're still relatable to them but you're not so old that you can't connect to them

03:03:07.440 on you know a main level so i think that's a great uh age gap i think they can help each other a lot

03:03:14.640 i think for that in that area i totally understand where you're coming from for me if i was dating a

03:03:20.480 21 year old and i was talking about my boss was so terrible she made me cry and she is not terrible

03:03:26.400 she does not make me cry oh wait you were dating a younger guy i think it's different yeah yeah yeah

03:03:31.200 that way that way it's different we're not connecting on the same thing but i think a man

03:03:34.560 if a woman's 24 and a 21 year old man yes yeah a 20 and it still depends but for the most part i

03:03:39.840 agree but a 24 year old man i think can date a 21 yeah i agree i think that's a healthy age gap

03:03:45.360 because he can put it up on game but he ain't too much older though so she feel like that's her father

03:03:49.280 yeah you know it's like he just she looks up to him more than it's like you know you're my big

03:03:53.760 brother type you know we'll get into the we'll get into the some of the age gap stuff a little bit

03:03:59.040 later but uh we can add that uh date you said dating apps are great for lining up dates but

03:04:05.680 takes a big part of getting to know a person away if you want to date your type you have to become

03:04:10.480 your types type yeah so those are two different things dating apps okay um if you want to date

03:04:17.440 your type you have to become your types type i am not my types type i can say that right now with

03:04:22.000 great confidence but what's your type type so physically speaking like buzz cut tattoos i'm not

03:04:28.320 my type type that's totally okay i see yeah totally i get it but right so the guys that i've dated

03:04:34.560 i've been going for more like confidence um consideration spatial awareness

03:04:43.680 it's a unique one it's a yeah i'll say something real quick do you think that's the downside of social

03:04:47.680 media when it comes to male and female that it has made us not appreciate what we normally wouldn't

03:04:53.520 get like we all trying to search for like the home run like you say you feel like you're not your type

03:04:58.080 type it's like i think that's what social media did it's like well chris brown is right there so

03:05:03.280 and so is right i could just click on it it's like i think it just made us forget just the everyday

03:05:07.040 person and try to just go to the exact yeah epitome of what we want it goes back to what she was saying

03:05:12.800 about like how back then they were only able to swing like two baddies but now it's like a hundred

03:05:17.760 baddies yeah and i wanted to add i feel like also now too it's like everybody is so used to instant

03:05:26.000 pleasure and instant gratification where it almost seems like and this goes for both men and women

03:05:32.080 i'm not just saying men but sometimes not certain things okay i don't know how to explain it but

03:05:38.560 sometimes things aren't enough for everybody like i feel like it's all the time where it's not enough

03:05:44.080 like no matter what you have you can have it all you can have the perfect relationship you can have

03:05:47.760 everything but at the same time it's not enough for them everyone's looking for something that they

03:05:51.840 can't have you know could we always got another option with internet it's always somebody better

03:05:56.080 it's always somebody rich it's always a girl that look better it's like we're not satisfied

03:05:59.520 yeah yeah that's exactly what i'm trying to say and i think that swiping has made that

03:06:03.520 yeah issue too like oh i don't want that i literally and i said this on another show i've

03:06:07.280 literally seen girls in the club like act like they're swiping it's like no you're in real life you

03:06:12.320 can't just swipe a person away from you like they're like oh get out it's like that swipe mentality

03:06:17.520 even when you look at that balloon dating show i think dating apps are becoming reality like it's

03:06:22.560 like they're trying to turn reality into a dating app now you go and see a show with just a balloon pop

03:06:28.000 it's just everything is being turned into a swipe culture in reality instead of just getting to know

03:06:32.720 somebody so yeah i think that's why like when social media is like you have so many more options

03:06:37.360 that's why you have like cheating has gotten so much easier now you know what i mean it's like

03:06:42.800 because you have access to the internet and i wanted to say too it's like so different when it's like

03:06:47.280 obviously it's adulthood and childhood but i remember being a child and like literally getting crushes on

03:06:52.400 like my desk partner you know because it's like they're right there i'm like talking to them i'm like

03:06:56.880 attracted to their personality and the way they act and it's now it's like it's just based off look

03:07:02.640 and looks and i know it sounds superficial but when i was younger it's always it's it had always

03:07:08.640 been about personality and like you know like the way they act the way their mannerisms are it didn't

03:07:15.040 really matter like honestly i had the worst taste when i was in high school and now i feel like the

03:07:20.240 older i've gotten it's like i'm i feel a little bit more superficial you know like so maybe you had

03:07:26.160 good taste back then i care more about looks because i feel like i don't really go out too much and

03:07:31.280 i don't see like a lot of guys i'm usually mostly on tinder and hinge like you know just like

03:07:36.800 not basic it's not like i can't see their personality i'm just basing them off a freaking

03:07:41.920 picture they posted you know um we're gonna move on to the next notes here while i was gone somebody

03:07:47.440 said something about a beard who said that was it you what did you want to touch you wanted to what

03:07:54.640 touch his beard no your beard you want to touch my beard yeah because it just you were like holding

03:07:59.840 it and it just looks so it looks so full i just want to run my fingers through it

03:08:03.840 yeah okay what no because it just looks so clean and like it looks soft i mean

03:08:11.680 i was thinking oh my god i had an intrusive thought and i said it out loud i apologize

03:08:15.680 yes next question hey yeah all right thank you i guess the beard's looking okay all right appreciate

03:08:25.600 it thank you darkavia appreciate it okay so let's get into uh ashley your notes you were engaged at 19

03:08:33.120 ashley yeah you got a dog a car apartment and he did what what do you mean i'm like what happened

03:08:42.560 yeah that was a prompt oh i'm so sorry um to cut a very long story short i i fell in love when i was

03:08:49.840 19 and i wanted i always wanted to be a mom and i've always wanted to get married young so when the

03:08:56.960 opportunity presented itself in our relationship to get married we kind of went for it because when

03:09:03.120 you're young you know you just do things like that and um i moved out i didn't tell my parents i was

03:09:09.200 leaving i wrote them a three-page letter and i left and uh i got lonely so i got a dog and then we

03:09:16.400 needed a new car so we got a car put it under my name got an apartment uh we moved like an hour away

03:09:23.520 and then uh we were living in them well we were living in an apartment i was still working two jobs and

03:09:29.760 then he uh quit his job but we only moved over there because he got a job over there and so i was

03:09:36.000 working to provide for what we now had to pay for and um while i was doing that he was cheating on me

03:09:41.680 so i uh yeah so you guys were engaged yeah um you moved out at 19 you guys had a dog car apartment

03:09:50.240 uh but he didn't just cheat on you once he cheated on you multiple times is that correct

03:09:54.400 multiple with with different women or just one woman oh different women different women yeah

03:09:58.640 uh but you went you knew the girl um i only knew her because i went looking like after i found out

03:10:06.560 who he was cheating on me with all right and were they actually like like it was it like intercourse

03:10:13.520 carnal knowledge okay yeah yeah but some cheating is like dms and stuff yeah he would p in the v was

03:10:19.200 it p in the v uh in the v from what i know two of them were but uh other times like he would just

03:10:25.920 talk to people on the side sure there was other other sorts of cheating too yeah and you found out

03:10:31.520 he sent uh he he wait with the high school girl well wait like the girl he knew from high school

03:10:39.200 right okay he tried to father her baby yeah what like he was trying to get her pregnant no no she

03:10:47.360 already had a baby and so when i reached out to her like to see like i wanted her side of the story

03:10:52.720 and she was like yeah um he like takes me and my baby out like on dates and he's like telling me

03:10:57.600 that he could step up and be a father figure and all this stuff while i was at home oh

03:11:06.880 and he was you found out he was sending letters like written like written we got engaged because

03:11:12.400 he joined the military yeah and uh he when he was in boot camp he was sending me letters and he was

03:11:17.520 also sending other women letters rip did you stay with him you know i don't believe okay i don't

03:11:25.600 believe in giving up on people that i love but i tried to make it work after but it's a real woman

03:11:30.400 there stays by your side even if you well like i kicked him out after i found out but after like

03:11:37.920 i mean i i dedicate a lot of time to this man and i like wanted to give him the not the benefit of

03:11:42.080 the doubt but i just didn't want to give up on something i spent so much time do you have like

03:11:46.320 a three-strike rule or something no i mean after we got back together and i realized he wasn't gonna

03:11:50.640 change i let it go but and you said that uh let's see here uh you recently this year got ghosted by a

03:11:59.360 different man out of the blue who was the love of your life yeah he still is still huh wait how long

03:12:07.120 were you dating him i guess um i hate the term situationship but i guess that's what it really

03:12:14.720 ended up being but i mean would you consider i met his family and his like i stayed with i don't

03:12:20.720 wait so hold on when did you meet him we met last year in may and then you saw him for how long um

03:12:26.560 we were seeing each other for three days before it hit a year so like may of 2024 to yeah till yeah

03:12:34.720 when's the last time you saw him in person in february i flew to go see him oh it was long

03:12:39.840 distance it was long distance i see it was nebraska no when's the last time you uh talked to him um

03:12:46.400 funny story today no he um i texted him last in may and he just never responded but last may yeah i

03:12:54.800 didn't i didn't want it to end i didn't know it was gonna end and then it just ended wait so he

03:12:59.520 ghosted you yes so you and you guys had been dating for how long well i met him in may and then

03:13:05.920 um we had been talking for a while and uh we saw each other for the first time three months after

03:13:11.600 and then about i've saw him in person maybe like five or six times okay and would you always fly to

03:13:16.720 him um so he's actually from california but uh the first time he came back home because he's also in the

03:13:23.520 military and he came back home for a little bit i saw him and he came to la i met his mom we hung out

03:13:30.160 and then he came back in august i met his sisters because one of them got married and then he came

03:13:35.760 back we got a motorcycle accident in november um so he was kind of crippled for a little while so he

03:13:42.160 came back home and his hometown's eight hours away from where i live so i drove eight hours to go see him

03:13:48.160 after christmas and then in february i planned to he was supposed to get out in january but since the

03:13:53.920 accident it got pushed back to april so i flew to go see him in february okay and that's the last time

03:13:59.760 you saw him in person that was the last time i saw him and they were both in the army uh yes well you

03:14:04.960 saw him in the hospital no no no i saw him after like he got out and everything okay he flew back home

03:14:10.800 yeah okay i see and then uh you guys but after you saw him in person was you guys were still

03:14:17.920 communicating by text or whatever yeah we would talk every single day so when's the last time you

03:14:22.240 actually heard from him you said may yeah may was there like a breakup conversation or just

03:14:28.640 everything normal and then you send a message and you just never respond uh well towards like

03:14:35.280 the end of april he had called me and told me he was no longer getting out in april

03:14:39.520 and uh he said he was not going to get out to october long distance i mean we would have been

03:14:44.240 doing it for almost a year so it was kind of i mean it's hard i want my person to be here with me but

03:14:48.880 i i loved him so i love him so i was doing whatever it took and um i i don't know i had this feeling

03:14:56.640 like i just need to take a step back because i we weren't officially dating but we basically were there

03:15:00.880 without the title and i just he wasn't giving me the title like i wanted and i didn't want to push for

03:15:07.280 it because i don't know men don't like to be pushed but i just didn't want to so um basically

03:15:13.680 what ended up happening was that we had a conversation after that phone call um and i told

03:15:17.920 them look i love you but i'm gonna take a step back because i feel like that's you know i don't

03:15:23.760 want to hold you back i didn't know what i was gonna hold him back from i just didn't want to

03:15:26.320 hold him back from anything and we came to a mutual agreement that when he came back in october we

03:15:30.640 would try um to date and oh so you initiated a break no i mean that's how it sounds like to me

03:15:38.880 i mean it was i guess yes but i didn't want it to be a break and we would still wait who you

03:15:45.600 initiated the condo yes so you initiated a break but you didn't want to break no because he was he

03:15:52.720 was moving in a way that you feel like yes he just you just basically was not answering me right

03:15:57.040 away it was like 24 hours he wouldn't respond and and i brought it up because we're not dating and i

03:16:01.920 i don't know i feel like this weird position when like you're not dating someone officially and i

03:16:06.560 feel like nagging at them like i don't know i don't know it was just a weird situation you can't yeah

03:16:11.040 you can't nag yeah so it was just a weird situation and so i told him but after that we spent a whole

03:16:15.280 month talking exactly the same like absolutely nothing changed and then one day he just y'all was

03:16:20.480 intimate yes carnal carnal knowledge carnal knowledge no i was i don't think that's a mess

03:16:25.200 i mean i'm gonna be honest if you give your body up without the if you once you give your body

03:16:30.880 without the official you my girl you playing with fire because he like i don't have nothing to work

03:16:37.120 you take away his incentives too yeah i mean a lot of things but it's like you know herpes if you're

03:16:42.960 not with him and you you're not together you did that with him yeah but you set yourself up for failure

03:16:48.400 i really loved him i really do you need to get away from army cats folks from coast guard

03:16:52.320 i'm very careful with the chlamydia what are you saying sorry i don't know no but um hiv is still

03:16:58.560 around although that's been combated fairly well with medicine yeah after he ghosted me um i kind of

03:17:05.760 lost it utis not necessarily an std but they can happen when engaging in those sorts of uh all right um

03:17:12.960 and so okay but hold on yes you haven't talked to him in like six months eight eight months and he's

03:17:22.160 still the love of your life yes very much wait have you been have you been have you seen anybody

03:17:28.640 else since then i've tried but every person i tried to see i told them about him and that i was still

03:17:33.520 not over someone and i would give them the dagger in the heart wait have you had carnal have you had

03:17:39.760 carnal knowledge with anybody else no okay that is up though oh you should get over him he's uh he's

03:17:52.240 younger than me oh my god cougar cougar took some milk cougar damn okay but i just i i still love him

03:18:02.000 and i don't hold anything against him there's no bad blood i think that he just has a lot of growing up

03:18:05.520 to do and i think i have the mindset that i want to be a mom and a wife and i think for someone was

03:18:09.920 he cheating on you no i don't know military guy yeah he's but has it was he like i'll tell you

03:18:15.840 what happened though was he overseas um he no not when we were together but what happened was he uh

03:18:21.520 after he ghosted me i deleted social media and i didn't go on for a whole month because i didn't

03:18:25.600 want i like cried that whole month so i just didn't want to be seeing anything

03:18:29.040 and when i got back on and i saw his like stories and stuff he had a girlfriend so

03:18:35.760 so uh he just maybe just how did you guys meet originally tick tock oh like you slid into his

03:18:42.320 dms or yeah i saw him on tick tock live and i didn't ever click on anybody's life but i thought

03:18:46.640 he was like the most attractive person i've ever seen in my life how many followers uh he has like 60

03:18:51.200 000 what's he do he's in the military no like on tick tock oh he just posts military content

03:18:59.520 so you hit him up you initiated everything yeah did you yeah how many um of all that you said

03:19:04.960 you met six times in person yes would you you went to see him right yes every single time

03:19:11.760 yeah technically yes no when he came the first time he came to see me the first time so he flew to see

03:19:18.640 you we flew back home his home's here

03:19:23.520 did you like his home's california but you don't live in california so you

03:19:26.400 i do live in california oh wait you're in san diego yeah i'm in san diego oh okay right yeah

03:19:31.280 and his sister was okay all right yeah okay i see but all the other times you went to see him

03:19:37.840 wherever he was or because he can't with the military it's hard for him to like and you would

03:19:42.640 like you would pay or would he pay for the flights i would pay to go see him you would pay yeah

03:19:47.840 yeah i was gonna in christmas i was gonna drive

03:19:49.840 china one day oh you think you made it extremely too easy for him you think so

03:19:54.800 i like it when a girl makes it easy though you know i like i like that we like it but on the

03:19:59.760 outside looking in i'm just saying if you wanted something seriously if you're into the girl and

03:20:04.240 she makes it easy yeah that's good right it is but you could take it for granted that way because

03:20:09.520 it's like oh i got her you know what i'm saying she didn't want everything so it's like you know you

03:20:13.120 got to make them work a little bit like you you pushed up on him you flew out to see him you gave

03:20:17.360 your body to him and he didn't give you no commitment yeah yes did you like first time did

03:20:22.080 you uh carnal knowledge when was our first time like first time you in person was there carnal

03:20:28.960 knowledge yes okay it's okay illa i'm just it's okay man based on what you based on what you want

03:20:37.760 out of life from what you're talking about that's just not to me i think because it took we were

03:20:43.280 getting to know each other for three months and i couldn't like i wasn't physically with him and i

03:20:46.480 didn't know when the last time they were talking for three months they were talking for three months

03:20:50.480 beforehand that's based on what she wants out of life i'm not i'm not knocking out that happened to

03:20:55.200 me before but i don't but she wants a husband and kids that's not the way to start no i agree with you

03:21:00.480 because now looking back i know i shouldn't have done that if you just want to have fun cool but if

03:21:04.080 you want something long term i wouldn't suggest i thought i was gonna marry him uh you also said that

03:21:08.720 you're uh yeah yeah you don't you'll be all right wait are you still like i'm still very much in love

03:21:14.800 with him but i'm not waiting for him i just i like it's gonna take me time you're in love with

03:21:19.200 wait question did you say the first time you met no did you say i love you no it was the second time

03:21:26.160 in august yeah how much so from the time you first messaged him it was uh wait may five months sorry let

03:21:33.280 me do the math may june jump four four months four months there you go four months for an i love you

03:21:40.080 yeah it's a little premature some people say it in like a month it's premature men say that

03:21:46.720 to make y'all think we're in love with you but he wait he said it first or you said it no i said it

03:21:54.320 first you know what good for her she's a she's a simp i i like women i like it's perfect sorry and okay

03:22:02.640 a little second time meeting in person you just have a big heart it's okay yeah see when men but

03:22:08.640 when men hear those scenarios it make them go see why should i be the nice guy when him doing whatever

03:22:14.960 he wants to do got her head over heels because he ain't doing nothing and you went in bliss you

03:22:22.000 know what i'm saying so that's why guys hear that and be like why should i be the nice guy why should i

03:22:25.920 have gentleman skills when obviously that's not good to me i just i don't know what he was doing he was

03:22:31.280 good to you he made you feel good that's two different things he was he was great he was my

03:22:34.880 best friend i loved him very much i love him very much but does he love you like that well i guess i

03:22:40.720 don't know i think women prefer to be the uh women definitely prefer to be so there's like two dynamics

03:22:46.880 in a relationship i'll get you in in just a sec so there's the adored and the adorer and like if you

03:22:53.680 can get the person like i think it does it feels better to be the adorer i think but you're putting

03:23:05.120 yourself a bit more on the line like the you're the the adored is less invested in the relationship

03:23:12.320 but the adorer you get you get more of what you want if that makes sense you mean the adorey the one

03:23:20.080 the one that's being the door no the the one it in different ways like so if you're the adorer

03:23:26.960 the person who is giving the adoration okay like you're like in there's an infatuation whereas the

03:23:33.360 other person it's like you don't you're not that into them but like you got the leverage the door you

03:23:39.840 have you have the leverage but also like the person

03:23:44.160 you would be the adorer if you got the girl that you're really pining after or this could be the

03:23:52.880 reverse right and so like there's there's kind of a benefit to both positions because the adorer

03:23:59.520 is the one who's like whoa i'm getting the like i don't know they're having the more like

03:24:05.040 romantic experience yeah whoever's get doing or pursuing the other person has the leverage that's

03:24:09.760 why you gotta it's not like they say ain't nothing like when you love somebody somebody love you back

03:24:13.840 true you gotta have that reciprocation you cannot be whoever's always in pursuit mode you're gonna

03:24:18.720 stay in pursuit mode it has you have to meet the person halfway uh one sec wrath yo thank you for the

03:24:24.560 gifted 20 subs on twitch man really appreciate it you had something go ahead you mentioned that he posted

03:24:29.440 a girl is he still with her um i got blocked and everything because that that day i saw that he had um

03:24:36.560 um you got what did you do what did he blocked you listen i you did something listen the day i saw

03:24:45.600 i got back from a concert and me and him liked the artist a lot and so i was very emotional

03:24:50.720 and unhinged and so i sent him a very long voice message but it wasn't like a hateful one i was crying

03:24:57.520 i was sad i was literally hard like it broke my heart and the next day i got a text from his new

03:25:03.360 girlfriend basically telling me to f off oh my god and then we're in like not a nice way

03:25:09.280 so wait you were this you were the sign you know he did all that right you think he'd i don't think

03:25:14.160 no she said she's an ex-lover reaching back she said herself did you text did you text him or was

03:25:19.920 it just a voice memo no it was just a voice message because i did that to him often like i always send

03:25:24.080 him voice messages like right when i go to sleep or something so i just sent him one and um it was right

03:25:29.520 when i saw it was literally the night that i saw that he had a girlfriend and then i heard from her

03:25:33.920 the next day and she basically told me like yep that if i ever uh she's like if i ever reach out

03:25:39.200 again she was basically like she threatened to like i don't know do something to me he's behind all

03:25:43.200 this so hold on hold on so uh did he say i love you back no oh bro wait you're from san diego and he's

03:25:54.880 from where like he's from california california i don't want to say where he's from but he's from

03:25:59.200 upstate so like more like eight hours like seven hours away california i'm not sure i think he's

03:26:06.080 really probably your aesthetic type and he just got deep deep in your mind i think we just really

03:26:10.880 are you good friends but you wouldn't do that to your friend though i think she's digmatized i know

03:26:15.600 i guess it was just like letting shorty text you that was he she couldn't do that without his green

03:26:20.400 without the green light yeah damn i mean i don't know i'm telling you i also feel like if he did

03:26:25.520 love you that much or if he did care for you he wouldn't allow his new girl to talk to me like

03:26:29.600 that exactly no i agree wait what i would have said the same thing that girlfriend would because you

03:26:34.400 you so you knew he had a girlfriend and you acknowledged you acknowledged that and you still

03:26:38.560 went behind her back and they said that you sent that memo like out of respect agree with you but

03:26:44.720 out of respect i would have said the same thing but if he was really her friend he would

03:26:48.560 have responded no but they are not friends they were fucking like that's that's boundaries

03:26:51.680 crossed like that boundary has crossed you're no longer that can be your friend but you also

03:26:55.440 fucked him you're his ex-girlfriend or partnership of course his girl is going to feel some type of

03:27:00.000 way you sending him a crying memo saying whatever you said like yeah i would have done the same thing

03:27:04.320 she did i don't agree i think that i think she was kind of immature the way she handled it i think

03:27:09.120 she had no idea anything that happened obviously he didn't tell her was y'all still dealing with each

03:27:13.520 other around this time yeah he never told me there was anybody in the picture see that's different

03:27:17.840 see she ain't he ain't tell her the truth so she ain't really know i get what you're saying

03:27:20.800 because if he did i would have backed up 100 and i would have told them like i respect you

03:27:24.320 because i loved him he literally posted her also he should have reached out to you not the girlfriend

03:27:29.520 that's what i said too but i agree i mean like if she still has some type

03:27:34.320 i just think that if she still has like some type you know like situation with him he does owe her

03:27:39.440 like some type of explanation to an extent you know but like she said though

03:27:44.720 when the writing's on the wall you gotta you can't ignore it because now you're playing yourself

03:27:49.600 you know what i'm saying if he's posting a woman he's he wants you to see her so he kind of playing

03:27:53.280 with you yeah you know what i'm saying so you got to have more belief in yourself because sometimes

03:27:57.360 i've been with women and they had did something funny and in my heart of hearts i still like them

03:28:01.360 but i ain't tell them that it's like you got to stand on principles sometimes like y'all like

03:28:04.640 you but you're not about to play in my face he knew that you were going to see that that's

03:28:08.160 yeah he did that he said he's hiding you that's kind of crazy it doesn't matter you guys don't

03:28:12.640 know until you're in that situation and i completely feel you like you know like it's okay all right

03:28:18.480 moving on you said that you're a christian with pretty traditional values and views uh you disagree

03:28:25.120 with the way modern dating is today uh typically you stand with the republican view on things so i

03:28:30.640 disagree with things like abortion the trans movement that's being pushed um what what's

03:28:37.360 the nomination of christian are you um i would say non-denominational protestant or

03:28:45.040 no just non-denominational do you go to church i do go to church does that have a denomination no

03:28:50.320 we don't have a domination um you said that you would like to you would love to talk about the

03:28:54.400 feminist movement and how it's being pushed and how women are trying to be superior as well as you

03:29:00.480 already mentioned that um how that's being forced on people uh you find those topics extremely

03:29:06.320 interesting uh so what about the feminist movement uh what are your disagreements there

03:29:12.640 um just like the hating on men kind of situation that's been going around

03:29:18.000 kind of like sure women shit on men all the time and uh just kind of that i feel like that's always

03:29:24.080 brought up in your podcast but yeah yeah anything else or no sorry i'm sad now we were talking about

03:29:31.520 yeah you guys were being mean to her no i don't care i was not it still makes me sad but it's okay

03:29:37.840 i was being supportive i just feel like nobody can judge until you're in that situation she was

03:29:42.800 digmatized i mean that's just it's okay to be digmatized who cares it's okay to be digmatized

03:29:48.080 yeah until they do shit like that to you it is worthy it's okay of the digmatization

03:29:53.840 we've all been in a situation where we've all been like head over heels over somebody and done

03:29:59.120 something to like reach out to them in some way it's great everyone's only head over heels like the

03:30:05.040 person that doesn't want to act though that's always ain't that ain't that unfortunate um let's see and

03:30:11.840 then uh going finishing off with you ashley you have uh you you said i think this isn't necessarily

03:30:20.320 the most controversial but since i was young i've always wanted to be a mom and live the stay-at-home

03:30:24.560 life i hold a lot of what people would call old-school values and standards which is kind of the opposite

03:30:29.760 way that the world is moving with the whole push on feminism i think society should push women to stay

03:30:35.200 home and let the men husbands provide and we should go back to basic gender roles because i believe

03:30:41.600 society functioned better as a whole that way do you want anything to add on that or no i agree with

03:30:46.960 that so you want to be like stay-at-home wife how many kids do you want um three or four three or

03:30:51.840 four okay you gotta pump those up those are rookie numbers you gotta be like seven i'm going for ten

03:30:58.800 you know okay uh kind of going along with my answer the second question yeah it's more of the same thing

03:31:04.800 that i think i added to that for therefore it is okay yeah yeah we already got that one all right we

03:31:09.680 have carissa uh no crazy dating stories uh but you're going through a breakup right now or i am yeah

03:31:17.600 and but it's been two months i think you said it's been two months you guys broke up two months ago

03:31:22.000 and you initiated it i did yeah are you guys still talking though um okay okay okay okay so we were

03:31:32.720 i did block on everything and then i ended up unblocking him you unblocked him but now he's blocked

03:31:40.560 again so wait hold on when's the last time you talked to him uh today no yesterday no like last

03:31:49.760 week last week like friday like monday like the week technically ends on like so saturday like

03:31:56.480 yesterday yeah but yeah he's blocked again oh frick frickity frack uh here hide stream yard

03:32:06.160 uh hide it on center zoom too hide it on the other tabs it's gonna come back it's gonna come back we're

03:32:11.840 gonna uh uh big big l for fucking cox fucking cox lol lol cox l cox in the chat hold on

03:32:24.800 it'll come back all right whatever um so okay what uh so okay uh so okay you spoke to him when like

03:32:35.360 last week tell me when it's green again damien last week okay uh so has it been on again off again

03:32:44.640 like prior um what do you mean well you said you guys worked together for two years right like almost

03:32:52.000 two years and it was like no pretty much no breaks for two years we're green okay thank thank the

03:33:00.000 goodness okay get stream yard going back again uh so uh you dated him straight for two years for

03:33:09.840 almost two years yeah no breaks okay there were like many times where i try to break up with him

03:33:18.000 but

03:33:23.600 go ahead yeah we i we didn't really go through those breakups when i would try to break up with him

03:33:30.320 because i would just be easily like like manipulated or convinced like oh like yeah he'll change and

03:33:37.600 then he changes for like two weeks and then it just stops what would be the reasons for the breakup

03:33:42.480 like the attempted breakups like he wouldn't make me his first priority or he would just like put like

03:33:49.760 his friends that are like girls like over my feelings like i remember like this one time he had a trip to

03:33:56.000 vegas and i didn't like get to really talk to him like like all day that day or like really so i wanted to

03:34:03.280 talk to my boyfriend because i miss him and um no hate towards this girl i'm friends with her now

03:34:12.880 but she went to him because they used to be like really good friends before and he like was just on

03:34:21.520 call with her for like five hours just like trying to make her feel better and i'm here spamming him and

03:34:27.120 calling him like saying like like this is so messed up like didn't get to talk to you all day today

03:34:33.920 and he's just like not answering me and i don't know it's just like a long story okay um so

03:34:43.280 the there have been attempts to end the relationship by you many yeah many many throughout the course of

03:34:49.520 the two years yeah and he's like no no no i'll change but he doesn't he he changes for like two

03:34:58.480 weeks and then he just like stops and it was just like frustrating because like i loved him so much

03:35:06.000 and like i don't know i feel like i don't know so okay but then two months ago there was like an official

03:35:17.120 breakup have you seen him in person since then like twice after that what was the nature of these

03:35:25.440 meetings well he just wanted to talk things out did you guys hook up yeah okay um hmm and uh

03:35:39.600 i don't know just most of it it's just like when like we were talking about it like yeah we hooked up

03:35:45.200 but we actually did talk and i was just like crying to him because i felt like everything was just so

03:35:51.280 unfair because he's finally like changing or i'm being there for him while he's like upset and like

03:35:58.640 crying to me he's like crying to me and what's he crying about to like get me back yeah and he's like

03:36:07.200 okay i'll change and everything and i'm just like uh but where were you when i actually was begging for

03:36:12.960 you to change when like i was actually with you actually trying and now that i'm actually giving

03:36:17.520 up and not trying anymore you like want to try and it was just like so upsetting and it just like

03:36:22.320 made me cry so much and i was like crying out of anger because every single relationship i have been

03:36:27.760 in like the first one i got cheated on with like he cheated on me with like two other girls second one

03:36:32.560 i lost my virginity to him and he just like left me after that and this one there's that so i feel like

03:36:40.400 i don't know i'm just like it just makes me upset how i'm never with the right guy like not the right

03:36:45.200 guy but like or like the right guy i don't know it was just it's just frustrating to deal with

03:36:52.000 so it's like you stop trying and then he was like oh i'm actually losing her let me like

03:36:59.280 try yeah but that's gonna end and he's like yeah i'll change i'll change i'll change and i just

03:37:04.160 don't believe him because he would say that like over and over during relationship they all like rock

03:37:08.160 music like you did he like yeah did he like the the deftones he liked deftones but he like deftones

03:37:16.800 a little bit but i think i put him on songs more but i think his number one or rap person is yeet

03:37:24.960 you said number one what he likes yeet like who the fuck is that guy yeah i never heard of him tick tock

03:37:30.000 rapper who the fuck is yeet tick tock rapper he likes yeet or he just yo my name is yeet or like

03:37:37.920 playboy card oh god he's one of those guys yeah yeah that's why it ain't work is he white

03:37:45.680 are you are you mexican i'm filipino and mexican half okay 50 50 yeah okay huh okay

03:37:53.520 so you saw him in person house long ago how long ago like two days ago three days ago no last week

03:38:02.640 like a month ago oh okay yeah yeah or wait you know with the breakup shit like that has to be

03:38:10.240 i mean it's it has to be cold turkey like you you can't keep

03:38:15.280 talking to the person but is he he's blowing you up okay he's not blowing up anymore but at first it

03:38:26.640 was like crazy where he would just spam calling me like when he knew i was out at like a party yeah

03:38:32.960 how many times did he spam call you the numbers like on each app really like a hundred times spam

03:38:39.600 okay not like like 30 20 like 60 total altogether that's a little crazy right there um damn man uh

03:38:49.200 so is it is it over over though it's over really yeah i don't i don't find attraction to this man

03:38:55.440 anymore because of like of all the problems he's done just make me it just made me less attracted to

03:39:02.080 him each single time and it sure okay yeah uh let's see moving on to your other notes you said uh

03:39:09.280 uh you said i feel like once you see your partner follow an only fans model or a girl from town

03:39:15.760 who posts a lot of their body makes uh makes the girl the girl insecure okay uh and then you said

03:39:23.520 vice versa women shouldn't be following so much men who show off their bodies i just feel like it's weird

03:39:28.800 uh social media affects a lot of relationships today and in general makes us believe things and

03:39:33.600 doubt ourselves in our looks don't you think the fair proposition would be though uh

03:39:39.440 if you want a man to stop and i agree with you men shouldn't be like following these ig thoughts

03:39:45.200 and yeah of girls and just any girl in general uh especially if they're in a relationship i think

03:39:51.040 the fair proposition on the female part would be you guys got to stop posting revealing photos

03:39:59.200 would that be a fair proposition so you're like hey i don't want you my boyfriend to post or sorry

03:40:05.200 not to post i don't want you liking other girls instagram photos whatever i think the fair

03:40:11.440 proposition is then you the girlfriend you can't post revealing photos on instagram fair proposition

03:40:17.440 or is that controlling

03:40:22.640 i don't know i disagree i think i think it's fair i think it's fair can you uh scoot your mic to the

03:40:28.240 edge of the table i think it's fair fair yeah you think that's fair i think it's fair yeah okay

03:40:33.360 i don't know she doesn't yeah she disagrees no i don't have any revealing photos on my freaking

03:40:38.320 instagram i don't know well i don't know you could go look at my instagram i have nothing revealing on

03:40:42.960 my instagram and i still disagree oh so why you don't why you disagree you don't even do it

03:40:47.280 because i don't i just i disagree because if your man is like okay your your man can post gym photos

03:40:54.160 with his shirt off and his abs popping out but you can't post a bikini picture but that gets no right

03:40:59.440 for okay like we're again i am not looking i am not following anyone with his abs were popping out

03:41:05.600 and all that stuff i'm not following him but why can't you follow girls that have bikinis on like

03:41:11.120 bikini pictures on i'm not liking guy naked guys photos i mean an argument could be made that it

03:41:16.320 could be one for one so both of you can't be liking and following the opposite sex and an argument

03:41:25.760 could potentially be made but we have an agreement where yeah my boyfriend can post his workout videos

03:41:30.080 of this shirt out and i can post me at the at the fucking me here's the difference though but we

03:41:34.080 have an agreement but we never i think there's a difference you staring at girls photos that isn't me

03:41:39.280 on my instagram then why i mean you post those pictures as a part of like your career

03:41:44.880 because like if he got a business where he's like a trainer like that's one thing like let's just say

03:41:48.640 he's not like he just yeah if he just he just he just he just he just he just likes what his body

03:41:52.480 looks like he's gonna post about it and i'm like okay yeah i like what his body looks like too so i'm

03:41:56.160 gonna let him post it he likes what i do and we like we have an understanding that like yes we can we

03:42:01.360 can do that because we're together but you have no right i have no right to be staring at somebody the

03:42:05.680 opposite gender following them and staring at their body that's no no yeah but the the attention

03:42:10.800 that men get and women get on social media is completely that's not true we'd be handing people

03:42:14.720 off tick tock because they do thirst traps us women do it too i've done it yeah i know hide it on i

03:42:20.560 already saw it hide it on hide it um yeah so i mean while it is the case that uh occasionally women shoot

03:42:29.360 their shot uh the frequency at which this happens is way lower than the reverse so we have to take

03:42:37.680 that into consideration like i'm sure all of you here at this table i'd be willing to put money on it

03:42:44.080 you have been reached out via dm by men at like exponential rates compared to the rate that you be

03:42:51.280 you'll be sending out dms you might do it but like you might do it the guy's probably not attractive

03:42:58.080 the thing is most women are shooting they shout out the same guy that men are shooting they shout

03:43:02.720 out out y'all are all going towards the same dude ten percent just be with you like yeah like the guy

03:43:09.040 i hit up like through tick tock he was just like waging like green-eyed like he would have like he was

03:43:14.400 like really handsome and i've seen his i'm like i went through his i went through his phone and he

03:43:19.360 gets dms like crazy crazy crazy did you guys have any brothers she's trying to date an asian guy

03:43:26.320 yeah i'm the only child only child sorry sorry you got a brother i do have an older brother oh

03:43:34.800 shit but he doesn't date younger so i got a brother that's big japanese i could i could i could do

03:43:40.640 like filipino my guy best friend single he's filipino like show me a picture she likes asian

03:43:46.400 then okay i'll show you a picture after but you said is it light-skinned you he he's like light he's

03:43:52.240 like a filipinos can be lights yeah he also has like gray green eyes is he short though no he's

03:43:57.040 like five ten no five ten five ten it's a good height you're half you're half you got a bro

03:44:04.000 he's younger oh never mind uh and are you what are you are you half anything i'm just

03:44:08.880 mexican me full full okay mexican yeah you got brother the best of both worlds you got brother

03:44:14.240 half asian half mexican well i got cousins they're short bangs you got you you got brother no only

03:44:22.560 sisters you spanish too yeah i'm mexican i'm mexican dang i wish i was the only child you okay siblings

03:44:32.800 you good my are you looking at me because of my eye oh i have 12 siblings somebody what are you okay wait

03:44:38.960 yeah i know fix it yeah i'm okay my eye my contact oh yeah yeah i fell asleep with my

03:44:44.480 contact that happens yeah it's been watering for a bit you need eye drops okay if you have any that

03:44:50.480 would be next time i'm up i'll get you some i'll get you is it the lubricant um waiting for context

03:44:56.960 the one for contacts yeah that's actually oh shit oh wow sounds weird eric with the hookup i'll be

03:45:02.240 back uh okay i think we're back uh can you fix yeah go for it uh okay moving on with the notes here

03:45:11.040 sorry guys internet's cutting in cutting out i think we're back uh scuffed as usual uh fix that get obs

03:45:18.880 back up uh okay moving on with the notes um uh your ex made you think you were crazy because of his

03:45:29.280 actions that made you the way you were yes gaslighting so gas are you saying gaslighting yeah

03:45:37.600 so he would uh the way you acted was his fault yes like at first okay at first i'm just like okay

03:45:50.000 whatever like go do it and i'll just have like a little feeling about it but i wouldn't like

03:45:54.880 bother to do anything about it but he just kept adding more and more and more onto that problem

03:46:00.560 and it just made me like go crazy okay uh and then uh can you give us like an example of one of

03:46:09.040 these times um honestly okay um also i have a homework assignment for you like right now i guess it's not

03:46:21.040 homework can you read the first three pages of that book yeah just right now yeah out loud please

03:46:26.160 okay first three pages first three pages yeah oh she's turning it to the camera too that's very

03:46:33.760 i work with kids that's that's boom second nature go ahead um oh the first okay i am sam

03:46:43.280 um the first three pages for yeah um i am sam hello i am sam or sam i am what wait okay how about five

03:46:58.880 pages just keep going keep going i'm scared audio we're having audio issues apparently scuff love it

03:47:05.920 sam i am i do not like that sam i am damn this book sucks man do you like green eggs and ham

03:47:16.000 i do not like them sam i am i do not like green eggs and ham i don't get it i'm scared

03:47:24.160 what's going on all right here i'll take it back that was good that was really good can we

03:47:27.280 get w's in the chat for carissa can we get some

03:47:30.000 donuts someone's racing around here warissa that sounds like warissa in the chat w's in

03:47:37.680 the chat for her great great reading proud of you well done uh let's see you said you asked me a

03:47:44.160 question yeah it was oh like what do you do what do you like what's the situation yeah just one quick

03:47:51.120 example sorry guys example of what sorry i forgot where we were like gaslighting when he was gaslighting

03:47:56.240 you yeah and you crashed out oh okay so there's this there's this girl and she used to like have

03:48:02.880 a little crush on him but he was just like oh she's just a friend and she just like randomly

03:48:07.280 texted him here and there and i'm like i just don't i didn't want him to answer her or if he wanted

03:48:12.480 to answer her like okay like you can answer but then he just wanted to continue the conversation

03:48:17.040 and like just be like oh and also he's a big people pleaser and he admitted that himself so

03:48:23.120 he was just a big people pleaser he would just always put these girls feelings over mine and

03:48:28.080 i'm over here like crying and yelling at him saying don't answer them just react to their message or

03:48:34.880 something yeah okay so jealousy type shit yes yeah okay you said that uh hot takes definitely when he

03:48:46.960 has good hygiene yes and is confident yes okay uh but not enough where he's like cocky

03:48:55.440 and then you said you wanted to talk about if religious people are okay with dating non-religious

03:48:58.800 people are you religious um what do you call it like lukewarm huh lukewarm lukewarm you're lukewarm

03:49:07.120 religious catholic you're you're a lukewarm catholic yeah okay are you catholic too okay also do you guys go to

03:49:14.560 the church um yeah i have a comment sure um i forgot she's like famous i think what is she

03:49:22.800 is it shoddy no not shoddy bay is it gorlack or something yeah oh yeah you want to date her no no no

03:49:29.440 i can set you up like no thanks not she's mexican that's okay i feel like that's your type no um you

03:49:35.840 don't date what never mind go ahead um what's your question for gorlack you're no it was just in that

03:49:42.400 podcast it was your friend that like sat next to you right there yeah he kind of like pissed me off

03:49:46.640 and gave me like okay so i have a friend who's christian yeah and um he made a bit a good comment

03:49:53.760 where like a lot of christians go to hell and he was like the perfect example for that okay the guy

03:49:59.680 who's sitting next to me yeah what did he say that he just offended you like everything like yeah but what

03:50:06.240 specifically well he would just make a lot of comments on like girls like like the way they

03:50:11.280 look and he did yeah what did he say i forgot but was it the born again virgin is that it was chase

03:50:18.000 i don't know if you've been on the show yeah no but i know who you're talking about what yeah but

03:50:22.240 you're gonna have to give like what did he actually say well he would just make one of like

03:50:27.840 he judges i don't remember he was just judging a lot yeah it says yeah but what's wrong with judging

03:50:32.320 because it says no i know nothing's wrong with judging it's just that if you're gonna say you're

03:50:36.400 christian can you can at least act like one and okay well yeah but what did so what did he do

03:50:41.600 specifically that he would just make i don't know i don't remember yeah but i mean like even uh you're

03:50:47.120 for christians you're allowed to judge righteously yeah but in a respectful way he wasn't only god

03:50:53.600 can judge i don't recall all the details of that episode but chase is pretty respectful i mean you

03:51:00.000 i don't know if you've heard it but like our other male guest i guess just kidding just kidding

03:51:05.520 i don't know he was just it's his tone was it his tone i don't know was it i don't remember i

03:51:12.160 watched what did he say what did he say i don't remember okay that's fine if you if it comes to you

03:51:16.960 let me know why do y'all do that y'all always bring up something somebody did but you can never tell us

03:51:21.680 what actually they did i guess sorry i just felt well yeah it's like yeah it's like i felt like you

03:51:28.960 said it ain't what the man said it's what it felt like he said like the way it made me feel yeah i

03:51:33.680 like it's it's like okay you can forgive but you won't i mean or you can forget but you won't forget

03:51:39.680 but just because somebody just because you felt like somebody says something that don't mean that's

03:51:43.040 what they yeah that is completely real like it's hard to it's hard for a man to assess that it's like

03:51:48.080 i never said that sweetheart you're going by something that felt like what i said but i didn't say

03:51:52.560 there's a lot of people i don't like that i have good reasons for and i just can't remember

03:51:56.880 the reasons but i know in my heart i should not like them that's why we don't understand y'all

03:52:01.040 because that don't make those same sense the hell word we tell you like this while mad because you

03:52:06.480 did this shorty like y'all say i don't know what you did but you did it like what well in my women's

03:52:11.280 intuition what women's into it what is that what is women's intuition an excuse to act a fool if if

03:52:20.480 women had this like amazing intuition we do how do y'all keep picking the worst

03:52:26.480 fucking men bingo ever because like where's that female intuition before y'all end up they switch up

03:52:34.480 no you would have had the intuition i had where's the intuition okay well we're not psychics okay we

03:52:41.120 have intuition okay you have emotions we're not looking into the future saying oh yeah in like

03:52:46.640 five years he's gonna cheat on me or five years he's gonna like no you can see that

03:52:50.400 no we cannot we're not psychics oh no we have the intuition to that he's in the moment in the

03:52:56.560 moment we definitely do oh the guy with the face tattoo and the soundcloud rapper is gonna be loyal

03:53:01.760 to me who's the fucking guy you have a crush on well that's who's the guy you got a crush no i don't

03:53:06.400 like him anymore okay fair enough sorry i don't like him anymore um i don't know he's blasted in

03:53:11.680 tattoos and is a drug addict yo darkavia where are you at bro come back here oh no that was your

03:53:17.280 friend who was dating all the drug addicts yeah okay never mind what's that name melena yeah

03:53:28.880 i want to name our daughter our daughter lightavia all right how do you feel about that you're in her

03:53:34.880 daughter she's gonna be lightavia but you and her are gonna have a kid me and her are gonna have

03:53:40.960 okay lightavia i think she like i think she likes you hey would you hey put that hey get the get the

03:53:45.680 phone out of here get it out of here get get back over there yep see how submissive by the way w's in

03:53:52.560 the chat i totally i've already uh got her training wheels on can i add to that w w w patriarchy w

03:54:00.960 submissive yeah i thought you said you wanted to like peg a dude no i can be submissive i just

03:54:05.520 basically pissed on the guy oh you what you pissed on a dude's face no the fuck i said it's based on the

03:54:11.520 guy oh i think she like you b well we have a boy we can name it darkavian can we that sounds like a

03:54:19.920 a super villain darkavia darkavian junior darkavia junior that's so can a girl be a junior i think so

03:54:27.840 what do you mean a junior like if i was dating a chick and like you know how like there's brian

03:54:32.480 junior can a there's no female word for junior junior i you know what i kind of want if we do

03:54:38.480 have a daughter i want to name my daughter the same name as my wife so that it's i can call her her

03:54:46.480 junior junior like what's like i don't know if i was if i was married to a girl named emily

03:54:53.760 uh-huh and we had a kid it would be like emily junior ej by ej because girls never get named

03:55:01.840 junior yeah but i feel like we gotta start that shit i know i think i think well i like i like

03:55:07.360 like names that are good for boys both boys and girls you know like they made the like i think

03:55:13.280 they're cute i made i met someone with like a female with a junior like first name junior like

03:55:17.520 but they made the junior her middle name that's beautiful some people blend names of two people

03:55:23.120 and making one name name after the father and mother yeah uh we have elsie okay we got your notes here

03:55:31.760 we're gonna get into or actually really quick i mean you last note for you you said you want to talk

03:55:37.520 about hookup culture and why it's so praised yeah are you do you do hookup culture no no rebound since

03:55:47.760 your last guy he he kind of was your rebound like you broke up and then y'all

03:55:53.920 you know okay good talk uh elsie some guy tried biting you oh biting girl what what what the

03:56:06.080 fuck what happens elsie he bit you like he down there no my god what are you getting into i don't

03:56:15.840 know you just you just hey you left it vague so i some guy tried biting you yeah because i was

03:56:21.120 gonna explain it on here but basically um i met this guy at the gym yeah and he wanted to go on a

03:56:27.280 date with me so our first date it was at the gym whatever it was like cool and so he asked to take

03:56:34.160 me on another date and i was like okay sure so he was driving and he tried like getting my hand and like

03:56:41.280 nibbling at it what that's that's how i've had someone do that to me yeah and so i was just like

03:56:47.360 what were your hands clean well yeah but i don't think that was his concern like when was the last

03:56:53.280 time you washed your hands i washed my hands every literally but i mean like you got into the car so

03:56:59.600 like he was trying to bite your left or your right hand well he was because if it touched the door

03:57:05.680 handle and then you were touching your phone like how often you sanitize your phone right oh well

03:57:11.040 if i'm on a date this guy does not have good hygiene okay you don't bite a girl's hand if

03:57:15.680 she hasn't washed it you do put their mouth in more places than people have it so i had a guy like

03:57:19.040 like have like a like have like the like they he likes to bite like my arm like he would go like

03:57:24.800 just kind of like that and i'm like what the no and it didn't just occur once oh it happened

03:57:29.120 multiple times he would okay so after that happened i was just like like i wasn't trying to be rude to

03:57:34.000 the guy because like what if he's like what if that's his way of getting love you can be rude and

03:57:38.960 stuff for instances like that okay i didn't want to be rude to the man somebody putting their hand

03:57:43.520 in their mouth on your hand you could be rude i think you need a green light for being a lot of

03:57:46.640 girls are not like if they like the guy they're not going to be like uh confrontation well i didn't

03:57:51.680 really like him that's right if he's ugly then sexual harassment oh i wasn't even going you know

03:57:56.480 that's that's what you ever seen that mean when they got the two guys one is handsome one is not

03:58:00.320 it's like when he says hey what's up mama it's attractive but then when he's not attractive

03:58:04.640 it's like yeah i mean the only difference when it comes to that is basically like whether something

03:58:10.800 is flirting or sexual harassment is like is she attracted to the guy is that true ladies like a

03:58:17.360 guy who you're attracted to could do something that a guy who you're not attracted to could do

03:58:20.240 it's like the ache yeah i get that creepy versus flirting but also it's like are you touching me

03:58:25.520 first time i met you're a stranger coming up to me in your body language is it like are you

03:58:29.600 touching me without my permission and i would yeah first initial i don't know you from can

03:58:33.360 of paint absolutely yeah because i've first date no i've had guys that are like very very attractive

03:58:38.560 be like complete weird it was yeah wait like so overly like you just beat the worst guys no no

03:58:44.960 no they're just like really like overly like sexual and it's just like a turn off no it's a big turn

03:58:49.680 off too sexual yeah well there's there's stuff across the board that's inappropriate but like

03:58:55.120 there is like the same exact thing that in one guy you'll like deem as creepy you'll be like oh

03:59:01.600 really hot or like flirting no but it's attractive no but i just said that there can be situations

03:59:06.480 like yeah that's you know yeah um so he tried to bite you multiple times yeah so that was the first

03:59:12.640 time it happened and i was like gonna let it slide because i thought it was just a one-time

03:59:16.240 occurrence i was like okay like he bit you hard or was it like just a tiny no i he was like trying

03:59:20.960 to do it playfully or like cute i don't know i didn't like it so i was just like did it hurt no

03:59:27.200 but i didn't like it you didn't like it no so then this other time we were hanging out with his

03:59:32.000 friends and then i'm walking in front of one of his friends and then he's in back of me with

03:59:37.120 another one of his friends and then he's like oh like should i buy her should i buy her and i look

03:59:41.840 back i'm like excuse me his friend said that no like he told exactly

03:59:49.840 word he told that to his friends he was like oh like should i buy her and i was like what

03:59:54.720 like he said it really loud so obviously he wasn't trying to be like quiet about it

03:59:58.400 i was like one he's like oh nothing haha and then he said it again i was like don't be biting

04:00:02.880 me like did the other guys were they also biters i don't think so because the friend was like bro what

04:00:08.880 so i was like it's weird yeah probably how long did you date this guy um for a week i'd say i went

04:00:18.720 on like four or five dates with him but if he was like a cannibal yeah yeah where did you meet him

04:00:26.960 at the gym wasn't there like that one was he on celebrity yeah you know what i mean what was his

04:00:34.080 name oh army hammer i don't remember army hammer yeah he like had a cannibal fetish yeah he said he

04:00:40.720 wanted to eat up a girl her legs allegedly allegedly they ruined his career over it though kind of

04:00:48.080 up but um it was all consensual car cannibal consensual biting it was consensual it was like

04:00:56.720 he had a fetish or a kink or something and i mean this guy was like giga chad

04:01:01.360 fucking a-list celebrity and they outed him and pretty much i can see how that can find out the

04:01:07.360 fetish of most men we did the one last time i don't know actually

04:01:12.000 probably large labias to be honest like big labia matter wow it's true like it's it's normal

04:01:16.880 to like i guess to say like oh i'm gonna eat you up like you're so cute you know but like

04:01:25.040 like he was a little graphic and detailed going back to you uh you said when you're talking to

04:01:29.760 someone you shouldn't be focusing on anybody else yeah i agree in the talking stage yeah i feel like

04:01:36.880 if you're talking to someone you're trying to date them you're trying to be with them you're trying to

04:01:40.640 be their partner so i just find it unreasonable if you're talking to that person and then also trying

04:01:46.400 to pursue other relationships that's just me okay sure um and then you said uh men need to act like

04:01:54.320 men and we talked about that yeah going back to opening the doors i like that okay should women

04:01:59.120 act like women yeah what does that mean if you're asking men to act like men women should also act

04:02:04.480 like women so like part of that is like i don't know for me it's like i don't want to be gross or

04:02:10.880 anything so like part of that it's like i don't like to burp loudly sure anything else so just the

04:02:17.200 burping or anything else also acting feminine acting feminine yeah okay what does that mean

04:02:22.320 like don't be screaming that's okay sure that's fair anything else like what are you asking no i'm

04:02:29.520 just asking you i think yeah that's like the basis of it any other girls want to weigh in on that

04:02:35.280 what does i am not feminine i guess how should women act like women no i mean you could be feminine

04:02:41.040 and still like not do those things yeah i mean like yeah like i'm loud yeah what do you think about this

04:02:46.320 tell me if you agree with any of these being submissive not going out to parties when you're

04:02:51.520 in a relationship or well well regardless of if i'm in a relationship or not like i must still

04:02:56.960 go to parties so what if your boyfriend says i don't want you going out to parties you come on with

04:03:01.840 me well yeah that's a solution yeah they could come with you he doesn't like to he says i'll face time

04:03:07.600 you no he says we have to compromise what do you mean what's the compromise i could face that's not

04:03:13.360 a compromise yeah you're coming with me to the party you're not gonna be on the phone

04:03:17.040 all night that's not gonna or i'd have to also find out what's the reason behind them not wanting

04:03:21.840 me to go party like sure i'll give you a couple i'll give you a couple unless it sounded like you

04:03:26.000 wanted i mean we i would say the environment you know what i'm saying because you know anything can

04:03:30.480 happen to you people are drunk they're under the influence and you can put yourself in position or

04:03:34.400 one of your friends could put yourself in position where y'all might get into altercation

04:03:37.840 and now you've put yourself in harm's way and your man is not there to defend you so it's like

04:03:43.120 that's one of many reasons the type of guys that's there you know the thirst is real strong

04:03:47.920 so it's like most people that's going out to the club especially y'all age they're going out for one

04:03:52.160 thing so if your man don't want you to go it's not necessarily because he don't trust you he don't

04:03:56.240 trust the environment and i get that but also if i go out i don't also i also don't go out that much

04:04:01.600 and if i do go out it's with a big group of girls so we're all protecting each other

04:04:05.280 so i don't feel like i'm putting myself in harm's way but y'all got that friend though

04:04:10.320 y'all got that single friend come on girl they got drinks let's go you know that girl no i'm 18 i

04:04:16.320 can't drink you said you can't drink i can't drink that's so you don't need to be there no way stop

04:04:22.640 you think that stops all the 18 19 and 20 year olds at ucsb that's them yeah but you go to ucsb right

04:04:29.440 yeah but i can't comment on their behavior so you don't drink i don't okay i mean that's fair but

04:04:34.800 you're still in these environments where other people are drinking right um but uh i mean look

04:04:41.760 it is sort of at that age it is sort of something that a lot of people do but uh do you think that

04:04:48.080 this would be how about this do you think when you're a bit older this would be a reasonable

04:04:52.000 standard to have let's say when you're 23 i think so yeah i mean it's completely valid and i think at

04:04:56.960 that point i'll be done with going to parties or anything so okay it's not something that should

04:05:03.840 cause an argument over okay wow but in any case uh if you were dating a guy and he didn't like to go

04:05:10.720 out and party and he was like hey i'd rather you spend this friday and saturday with me or third how

04:05:16.880 often do you go out like four times a month four times a month and it's like friday friday saturday

04:05:22.240 yeah yeah that's typically uh well not i mean a lot of the people around here go out like three

04:05:29.840 times a week you know yeah right morgan it's tough to do around here that much to go out every day

04:05:37.440 college here is like number one party school in the u.s so um how about this uh being submissive so

04:05:42.960 being submissive not going out to parties not dressing revealing not posting revealing photos

04:05:48.880 on instagram well fair proposition i don't post revealing photos either way i don't have anything

04:05:54.240 revealing on your instagram no if you're gonna pull it up right now do it the most i have is

04:05:59.120 pictures at the beach that's revealing i don't think it's revealing and also it's the way the

04:06:05.200 bikini top yes but i'm in pants it's also the way in which you're posing and posting it so i don't

04:06:10.960 think it was really the cheeks is out no it's too much i'm gonna i'm gonna take a look on my laptop

04:06:15.600 right now what if it's like for like a brand deal like that's i think i do have some pictures i don't

04:06:19.920 think she's doing brand deals oh in this example look at it i mean no i don't know cheeks out cheeks

04:06:26.480 out uh cheeks out i'm gonna oh what the hell am i okay one sec we'll see uh we'll take a look here

04:06:35.520 you know what should we pull no hold on um you got your prom photos a little eric what do you think

04:06:44.800 i mean it's a little it's a little but it's covered up she's got a dress but it's like you're focusing

04:06:50.720 on on the on the rear it's like above the shoulder it's a wagon check it was a wagon check you know what

04:06:55.920 i'm saying y'all love that wagon check okay but you guys wouldn't be saying anything if there wasn't

04:07:01.440 there if there wasn't what did you mean i go to the gym so like it wouldn't be an issue if i was

04:07:07.360 more flat basically and i was covered i mean it ain't it ain't it ain't the size of it it's just that

04:07:13.280 you're i mean you want people to look at it it's not i seen worse i seen worse there you go a little

04:07:17.600 whale tail going but you definitely you definitely giving a little you know check this out type you

04:07:22.240 know a little bit a little advertising just a little appetizer a little advertisement you know

04:07:26.880 what i'm saying just let them know you it's here but it's not revealing no there you go it's it's

04:07:34.560 form fit it's pretty form-fitting though you know what it's thirst trapish it's a little thirst but

04:07:39.360 it's not the worst exactly i wanted you guys to see how amazing the back of the dress was

04:07:44.800 it's a beautiful dress thank you great dress fantastic dress one of the best i've ever seen

04:07:49.120 like but you said you said if nothing was back there we wouldn't say nothing yeah if there was

04:07:53.840 nothing back there you wouldn't have took that picture either no i would have oh i love myself

04:07:58.880 i feel like that goes for like everything too but but i've seen worse i'll give you i'll give you a

04:08:04.080 b minus b minus yeah i mean i've seen that's pretty that's a passing grade that's a good grade it ain't

04:08:10.320 a c b you know what b minus that's that's good there's we're not judging how you look i'm talking

04:08:14.560 about like the is it revealing picture or nothing all right i've seen a lot of words read a chat here

04:08:19.520 techno trooper how can we address social media's role in promoting

04:08:22.640 unrealistic views of life like claims of sophie raines alleged alleged it's good that you point

04:08:27.840 that out only fans earnings exceeding top nba players hashtag digital distortion techno trooper

04:08:35.200 social media's role in promoting unrealistic views of life how can that's a very um

04:08:40.080 techno trooper i do appreciate the message how can we address social media's role in promoting

04:08:46.160 uh i mean absent legislating or like parental controls when it comes to access to smartphones

04:08:53.200 and uh what what do you guys think about this would you be on board if your husband and you

04:08:58.640 have you have a kid son or daughter doesn't say you have both he's like i don't want my kids to

04:09:05.840 have a smartphone until they're 18 oh i like that fair you guys cool with that or you would be like

04:09:11.840 i don't think 18 maybe like 16 or something but i think the idea of like restricting their 18

04:09:17.840 they can have like a little flip phone no i i 100 agree yeah i i like that well regardless they're

04:09:24.560 gonna learn things through school homeschool that homeschool okay then you're gonna i would make my

04:09:29.040 kid buy his own when he can get a job and buy his own phone that's when he can have no having like going

04:09:34.480 to school even if it's a public school and not it's like completely different like having a smartphone

04:09:39.520 is really different especially with like this evolving generation i i would be okay with that

04:09:44.960 completely okay they don't need them yeah i don't know man there's like even back when i was on dial

04:09:51.920 up internet shit i was i was exposed to some crazy shit on the internet at like 10 playing diablo 2

04:10:01.600 look bro there was some crazy shit even then now it's even worse with social media

04:10:07.840 it's bad remember rotten.com oh bro the the you get some jump scares man rodden yeah

04:10:14.560 rodden.com did you see that photo i i don't want to be too detailed but there was a crazy photo i got

04:10:20.320 it was like a virus or something i'm shit some shit i you're talking about the motorcycle asking

04:10:24.640 the dude no it's like no no no i'm talking about hold on i got i think i have to go here really quick

04:10:31.280 or wait ah do it okay i'll just join out here y'all know nothing about that there's a photo of a dude

04:10:39.440 that's so spreading his

04:10:43.840 spreading his what oh his cheeks oh i ain't never see that's that's another rotten doc i don't know about

04:10:49.360 that website no no it wasn't no no no it could it got sent it got said i wasn't like looking for

04:10:53.760 that shit it just got sent you know i've never i've never seen it rotten.com showed like explosive

04:10:58.960 like people got shot in the face like real violent stuff like yeah yeah she spread dot net i ain't

04:11:03.760 never been no it wasn't bro i didn't go to i did not go to cheekspread.net it was just like it got sent

04:11:08.640 and it was like why did he send it to you though i don't know dude anybody never sent me that brian i

04:11:14.320 don't know bro i swear it was like uh man okay whatever did you never sending it or did it stop

04:11:22.560 with you did you keep sending them on no i didn't send it i i saw that shit i was like oh it was like

04:11:27.600 a virus and it like it was a virus and it like kept popping it up and you couldn't like you couldn't

04:11:32.720 get out of that a cheek spread virus that's crazy it was disgusting bro i bet it was it

04:11:39.200 i it burned into my retinas bro oh my i couldn't sleep bro bro i don't know what

04:11:46.640 friends you got but i would get rid of it no it wasn't friends i was it was like it was uh

04:11:50.320 just a chain thing just like some bullshit on the internet i never seen that one bro you got me there

04:12:01.120 i wasn't looking for it sometimes it's a pot you nobody's ever had like some crazy

04:12:05.200 shit like no oh boom there's a wait do you have you ever used like one surprise yes have you ever

04:12:09.600 used like one two three movies like that website where you can watch three movies yeah yeah like

04:12:14.080 that one if you like if you watch it like like pop-ups the pop-ups are crazy yeah i i understand

04:12:19.760 this was like this was like 90s pop-up aol fucking dial up dial up bullshit fucking crazy okay anyways

04:12:29.520 whatever good good stuff okay uh let's see we're gonna get into oh we do have a no we already did

04:12:36.800 that one uh oh on his uh message they sent through about sophie rain i'm pretty confident a lot of

04:12:43.120 these only fans girls lie about how much money they make because they're trying to build like uh what's

04:12:47.840 it called uh the hype they're trying to oh i'm making 40 million a year uh it what's the hype people

04:12:56.480 are gonna be curious what's the hype and then all the attention that she got just by saying that one

04:13:01.520 it could have been a lie she probably makes a lot of money i wouldn't be surprised if she even makes

04:13:05.680 a million a month uh but like 43 mil in a year i think is maybe a lie she probably makes a fuck ton

04:13:13.120 of money but 43 it could it could be real but a lot of these of girls lie about fucking everything so

04:13:20.960 it could be bullshit could be bullshit okay we have stifler ask everyone to rate their own looks

04:13:28.800 on a scale of one to ten bangs go ahead ten can you say that without cracking your sorry ten there

04:13:37.680 that's beautiful okay i would say like seven or eight can you do like a hair flow while you

04:13:45.120 is that good yeah okay sort of i would say seven or eight just because i think i'm still young right

04:13:51.360 now and so i can still i think i'm i hope to get better looking as i get older and then also there's

04:13:57.840 more things i can improve on so seven or eight sure what about you like seven okay seven okay ten

04:14:06.320 six there's a lot i need to improve on so like a six and a half eric what about you can we call

04:14:12.480 andrew can you call eight strong eight strong eight i give myself a five uh can you call andrew

04:14:18.400 we're going to get him back in here uh while that's going on we do have techno trooper ladies

04:14:25.040 how long should your man last in bed hashtag digmatized all night long all night okay every

04:14:31.600 night monday tuesday all the day all those days thank you techno trooper how uh that's an interesting

04:14:36.640 question i don't know if we've ever even had that after 200 shows of uh 200 episodes going around

04:14:41.600 the table uh how long should a guy last uh not too long you want to give us a minute

04:14:51.440 second seconds how many seconds how many seconds should a man last i don't know but uh it gets to

04:14:57.120 a point where guys are like oh yeah i'm gonna take some blue chew like all of a sudden blue chews

04:15:01.280 becoming a thing and they're like oh yeah i'm gonna take i'm gonna take some blue chew i'm gonna last

04:15:06.080 the whole weekend and all this crap and it's like okay well girls don't want to do it the whole weekend

04:15:10.720 you know some do but you know it like it kind of hurts you know you need to be so how about like

04:15:19.200 uh just the you know one one one per day what how long should that last

04:15:26.400 i don't know i have not gotten any action in a while i don't know cobwebs all up in there yeah

04:15:33.840 i don't know i really don't know to be honest sarah desir nothing i don't know it's been a minute um

04:15:41.680 i agree sorry i agree though like not too long i think as long as both people are like

04:15:51.840 having fun yeah there you go yeah yeah what are you wait are you is it your contact it's my contact i

04:15:59.600 told you already it keeps it it's over there i'm trying to take my stuff well it will get it

04:16:04.720 it just hurts a lot i'm sorry your contacts yeah you slept in it last night yeah that's right it's

04:16:09.200 probably dried out it feels like i have cardboard in my eye it's dried out you don't have to change

04:16:12.800 that sweetie i should wear my glasses you could you could just be blind like me for the show

04:16:19.280 i don't have anywhere to put if you have a little container i'll put it oh you you don't have

04:16:22.480 disposable no this is my mom yeah what who still uses you gotta get one a day no both of them my

04:16:31.680 insurance covers oh insurance both of them hurt not just this one you got more at home huh you got

04:16:38.000 more at home if i was you i would just take that one out and just thug it out with me i have to drive

04:16:43.120 home you can't drive home do you have your glasses no i don't it doesn't matter all right all

04:16:47.920 right okay um i'll get out how long how long should your man last in bed i already answered

04:16:53.040 i missed it oh um not too long like she was saying but like enough time that both parties

04:16:58.720 are being pleasured and having fun give us the time 15 20 minutes 10 minutes 30 30 30 seconds 30

04:17:04.960 minutes 30 30 30 that's some grandmas man grandmas 30 minutes that's that's that's short

04:17:12.960 wow that's a long time myself ain't no minute man i don't know everybody feel like me i need at

04:17:18.160 least 40 for this guy over here 40 minutes look at this guy all right what about you i don't know

04:17:22.880 how to answer because you are a virgin that's okay and that's okay uh if you were to have sexual

04:17:32.720 intercourse with a man do you have an idea though i mean like what like like if it's shorter the

04:17:40.720 duration is shorter doesn't that mean they're more attracted to you oh so if he if he's quick

04:17:46.400 yeah it doesn't that mean it means he's it could be it could mean he's like really turned on or

04:17:53.280 nervous yeah or so i guess shorter shorter i guess so like three seconds like that's crazy

04:18:01.280 five minutes school with y'all like 10 minutes boom i'm out that's cool i mean if she comes like

04:18:06.960 if she comes like three times like yeah because y'all can go go go go some girls

04:18:14.640 once we done we done how about when you're on this is too much when you are double clicking your mouse

04:18:22.720 how long do you usually do that what is double what does that mean that's tmi djing when you are

04:18:31.120 pleasing yourself oh how long do you go

04:18:40.320 i don't know you don't do that not often on how about whenever it's the full moon whenever i don't

04:18:51.040 know what yours like i don't know this lingo whenever it's a full moon like the like period is

04:18:56.400 that when like you do you do it once a month basically oh masturbation how long do i last

04:19:04.960 sure i don't it's counting i don't know keeping track i don't know i don't want to 30 seconds

04:19:11.280 i don't know a minute okay what about you well my answer is the same as elsie's which which

04:19:17.520 30 minutes 30 minutes 30 minutes 30 minutes okay uh dark avian wait sorry dark dark avian

04:19:27.200 uh i would say like 15

04:19:34.160 it's a whole virgin we get it yeah uh what about you do i have to answer you yes you have to

04:19:41.120 uh otherwise seven years of bad luck it doesn't matter it doesn't matter okay sweet based as long

04:19:48.000 as you guys love each other and can cuddle up and she said 15 and good time good times eric with your

04:19:53.840 40 minutes bro listen man i got stamina for you feel me like now there's been some situations been

04:19:59.760 shorter than that you know i'm saying if it's good it's good i ain't gonna hold it back but i don't

04:20:03.840 know i'm just i jumped off the porch a little too early that's my problem you know i grew up a little

04:20:09.040 while we were doing stuff we weren't supposed to be doing too early so i guess i got kind of a like

04:20:13.600 a uh uh a build up to it so it's like i don't i don't it don't it take me at least at least 30

04:20:21.280 minutes to get right and has that increased as you've as you've gotten older

04:20:27.120 no it's pretty much the same my my my wantness to do it is not as much as i used to like that's

04:20:32.400 fair i gotta really really like you before you just gotta be cute now i gotta really like you like

04:20:36.800 you like i can't just give you all that energy that's do we have do we have andrew

04:20:41.840 oh he's he's has he been sitting there for a minute no he hasn't oh okay he's he's here though

04:20:50.400 okay we guys chat we are getting andrew wilson back on the show after an unfortunate power oh there

04:21:02.320 areas look at this fucking legend my caucasian andrew wilson back in the building did is that a

04:21:08.640 new flannel andrew did you get a new flannel were you wearing that before great i was wearing i was

04:21:14.400 wearing the same oh he was wearing the flannel welcome back andrew welcome back uh andrew i do

04:21:20.880 want you to know we just did the rating segment and we have two tens at the table and we have two

04:21:28.480 tens andrew what do you rate yourself on the scale of one to ten well i mean if there's two tens there

04:21:34.000 i'm at least a ten i gotta be he is he is it uh bangs do you agree i will i want you to say something

04:21:42.000 nice to andrew is he a ten yeah well wait did bangs rate herself a ten she did oh well then of course

04:21:49.600 well then yeah bangs am i a ten bangs say it um i think you have every right to feel like a ten yeah

04:21:57.200 right but do you're right you know what i have every right to feel like a ten if a woman like you

04:22:04.400 can feel like a ten i think that's fair yes but do you think he's a ten do you think he's a ten not to

04:22:10.320 me personally but to somebody he probably is a ten no but like look i know you guys have had your

04:22:15.200 disagreements but just looks i know you think you're trying to put me in a trap i'm not trying

04:22:21.760 to trap you yeah you i'm trying in a trap i'm just saying no trap there's no trap zero traps okay so

04:22:30.960 to me my opinion your opinion and you can't factor in that you think he's got a he's got a lump of coal

04:22:39.200 in his heart you gotta just on look at this handsome devil you gotta rate him um

04:22:48.400 i don't want to rate him but i if he's not my type i can say what do you you don't like white guys i

04:22:53.760 love white guys but just not guys like and i knew you were a racist just not guys like andrew no but

04:23:00.640 i don't understand if you're a ten i'm a ten brian's a ten everyone's a ten the whole world's tens is

04:23:05.920 there anybody in the whole world who isn't a ten who made that man the gatekeeper of beauty

04:23:13.440 why are you all of a sudden the gatekeeper of beauty he is the gatekeeper of beauty no because

04:23:19.040 andrew you you like obviously you've looked at yourself in the mirror and you can't you can't

04:23:24.800 go around telling people i'm a ten you've looked at yourself in the mirror and you put yourself on

04:23:29.280 the scale how could you possibly say you're a ten because i have confidence and i have every right

04:23:34.080 both of those things you've broken the mirror and you've broken the scale and you're still

04:23:37.280 worried about who's a ten come on like look let's be objective here if you're a ten i'm a ten she's

04:23:43.360 ten everyone's a ten yes that's exactly what i'm trying to get at me too me too that's why i said you

04:23:49.360 have every scale you can shoot off at a rocket ship to mars you're always going to be a ten that's

04:23:53.920 why i said you have every right to feel like you are a time should just date already

04:23:59.680 it's so flirty between you two you guys are just a little couple of

04:24:05.840 rascals you said that about mld too and i did not appreciate that you know look

04:24:12.640 i've got to pull your shirt down like have some self-respect what are you doing wait what i went

04:24:17.760 like this what's wrong with that of human decency andrew there could be people eating right now like

04:24:26.880 what's wrong with you oh you're coming in hey andrew you're coming in too hot right we just got him

04:24:33.120 back he's already hey he's just really insecure and i feel bad for him he's broken i want you hey

04:24:40.240 guys guys were you breastfed or bottle fed what the you were bottle fed weren't you i

04:24:48.400 dressed no you were bottle fed you're you're really you have bottles that i wasn't you have

04:24:54.160 bottle fed behavior you're having bottle efficiency which is something you clearly your mom didn't love

04:24:59.680 hey hey guys can you turn to the side i want to see your like your head and see if it's flat what the

04:25:06.400 fuck i want to see if it's flat because it's definitely flat

04:25:15.040 he's muted

04:25:17.680 we can't hear you wait hold on guys guys guys guys i want you each to say one nice thing

04:25:28.080 about each other okay bangs you go first and then why do i have to go first don't bamboozle

04:25:34.480 andrew you say one nice thing go ahead say it do it that's fair okay one nice thing

04:25:43.200 one nice thing me first uh yes you first okay and then andrew andrew um you are beyond what beyond

04:25:54.400 lane no dude just say one nice thing hang on i don't know what to say i don't know him to you

04:26:02.080 to you bang i just see i just see your backside i'm sorry wearing the outfit that you're wearing

04:26:07.440 is just amazing and so to your courage i salute you

04:26:11.920 good we salute you bangs we salute you all right that was great um

04:26:24.480 you know what i need a little pick me up today i want everybody to give me three compliments right

04:26:29.120 now and they all have to be about your looks shut it how dare you no uh never mind just kidding okay

04:26:37.840 on the rating thing though yeah do you think you'll be more attractive in 10 years time

04:26:44.480 compared to now uh i don't know because you're 22 will you be better yeah i'm 22 at 32 i honestly

04:26:51.440 hope i keep striving and i hope i have good healthy habits and i hope i you know work on myself but i

04:26:58.160 don't know what do you think though if you had a yes or no if you had to give me a yes or no

04:27:02.800 will you be more attractive i don't know i don't like to think about that stuff does it sting

04:27:09.600 it stings doesn't it i i just don't like i just don't like um like time going on and thinking

04:27:17.360 about that stuff it makes me sad like on a more emotional level not like a physical level you know

04:27:25.680 i get that yeah you know you're gonna get older right yeah i know but it's like it's it's

04:27:30.960 i'm trying to come to terms with that i've learned to be grateful every birthday i used to cry but

04:27:36.480 now i'm like very grateful so better looking in 10 years time um i don't know it doesn't matter come

04:27:41.840 on dude it doesn't matter why why are you why did you cry every birthday by the way

04:27:47.680 i feel like every girl cries every birthday or everyone cries every birthday

04:27:51.440 have you ever in your life brian cried on your birthday like what is she talking about

04:28:00.240 okay maybe i don't even celebrate my own birthday i don't care okay sorry

04:28:08.560 do you girls cry on your birthdays yes i cry like every day it's emotional the rest of the girls on

04:28:14.160 the panel do you cry like raise your hand if you cry on your birthday who cries on their birthday

04:28:18.880 what do you why do you cry on your birthday for um there's two reasons to it the first being that

04:28:25.440 it's just an emotional day like you're grateful enough to be alive and celebrate another year and

04:28:30.080 then the second one is like for some reason i had this expectation on my birthday for it to be like the

04:28:36.080 best day so when that expectation isn't met i kind of start to cry because it's your birthday

04:28:42.240 it's the day that you want to be perfect you don't get everything you want so you start crying no

04:28:46.880 i'm not saying everything you want you're an evil evil man yeah why is that evil why is it evil

04:28:53.280 sorry people can't enjoy their birthdays that is a man that is the face of a man wait so you're you're

04:29:02.160 18 who got his candy when was your hold on when was your most recent birthday oh this month

04:29:08.160 this month how long how like like a week ago like two two weeks ago okay and so you cried two

04:29:17.920 weeks ago this birthday i didn't actually but your last birthday yeah i think so why did you cry

04:29:24.240 like what went wrong that day i think that day my straightener broke and so i couldn't finish

04:29:29.200 my hair i wanted my hair to be straight for my birthday and that's why you i think so yeah

04:29:37.760 yeah insensitive girl sorry so what happens when like like was it like heavy crying or was it just

04:29:47.440 like a single tear no it's just like yeah it's not heavy it's just like dang dang damn can should your

04:29:54.960 boyfriend comfort you if you cry about that though i don't have a boyfriend no no i said like if you

04:30:00.400 did have a boyfriend do you think like or can a boyfriend just be like really no i can a boyfriend

04:30:06.960 just be like really i feel like they should come for you like if you're showing any emotions but then

04:30:12.560 later on they could be like you know that was kind of a like no in the moment in the moment you're

04:30:17.600 crying over someone's comfort yeah no i feel like in the moment the boyfriend's got to be like

04:30:24.240 bro really no here give me a hug relax it's gonna be okay give me a hug you see but that's comforting

04:30:33.120 that's good yeah yeah yeah but like we shouldn't uh indulge you in the crying we need to be like okay

04:30:40.160 you're good you're gonna be okay that's all good that's perfect no but i mean like

04:30:44.560 like we also got to come at it like cut that shit out too you know what i mean say that after

04:30:51.520 not in the moment in the moment in the moment on their birthday yeah why are you trying to get mad

04:30:55.920 on me on my day yeah if you're dating a girl and then she's like emotional on her birthday you're

04:30:59.520 like shut the fuck up like you know not that man not shut the fuck up but a little bit of like

04:31:04.640 hey look get it together come on give me a hug it's gonna be okay it's just a fucking straightener

04:31:09.920 it's all good yeah that's okay that's comforting it's all good yeah but you can't be like get it

04:31:14.640 together you just want to acknowledge me basically yeah yeah give me the straight you gotta you can

04:31:19.440 help self-regulate it's not working would it would it be comforting if the boyfriend just started

04:31:25.680 like fucking that straightener up like just beating the shit i think it would be also helpful if like

04:31:30.000 the guy would be like trying to solve your problem he'd be like oh it's fine let me just go get

04:31:33.920 let me run to the store and grab a go get you another one like like a problem initiative or

04:31:39.440 your hair is fine as is what no i have curly hair yeah half straight and half what if he's into that

04:31:45.600 no boom problem solved it's not about he's into the curly hair problem yeah he's like he just says

04:31:51.040 like oh you look better this way anyways i really don't give a fuck it's my day it's my birthday i want

04:31:56.800 to be happy with how i look it doesn't matter well it's not that i'm not happy with my curly hair but

04:32:01.360 it's like having straight hair is less hassle yeah women

04:32:09.280 yeah yeah i don't know man i want to know his

04:32:15.360 origin story oh my goodness hold on let me get through hold on why are you looking for some good

04:32:20.640 ammo to use against me there babe no i just that you don't i love no i just like psychoanalyzing people

04:32:26.720 yeah yeah and and what uh sort of psych psychotic analyzation i mean psychoanalyzation skills uh have

04:32:33.520 you been formally trained in besides absolutely none well i like doing i'm not saying i'm not

04:32:38.080 trained in anything i'm not going to go and be like okay andrew wilson or whatever is blah blah

04:32:44.000 blah i'm not going to go do that i just like i like guys thinking about it in my head and be like

04:32:47.360 okay here's here's my my that's the way he's like that and i already have my theory that you're

04:32:53.120 listen i'll satiate your curiosity i'll tell you my where did it all go wrong tell us okay my my

04:32:59.040 base mother had me some 40 years ago almost today back in january oh when's your birthday and i wait

04:33:07.440 when's your birthday and i hang on bangs i'm trying to tell you my origin you can't be quiet long enough

04:33:12.000 for me to answer the question you just asked me it's because she wants to know your birthday because

04:33:15.760 my birthday's in january too yeah well that's uh that's unfortunate we share anything but in any

04:33:21.200 case back to this i was born based and what happened was through a series of very fortuitous events

04:33:28.800 i was able to create a predictive model of when a woman is going to be an annoying shithead and and

04:33:35.120 based on this uh predictive model i can almost to a t to a letter note that any woman who banks on

04:33:43.280 things like psychology uh interpersonal uh conflicts within gender dynamics or who dictates that they

04:33:51.440 need you to open up as a man for them almost never has your best interest at heart in fact they almost

04:33:58.480 always want to utilize this information for the for the purpose of the politics of personal destruction

04:34:04.960 i've seen it time and time and time again but perhaps it's because i've been in the political space

04:34:09.760 for years and so uh that gives me a bit of insight where perhaps you don't have any so um i don't

04:34:17.440 know i just feel like i really have that feeling just like based off like every interaction i've had

04:34:22.400 with you on this show is that just like i don't know let me guess woman hater let me guess woman

04:34:26.720 hater misogynist no i wasn't gonna say that monster monster bangs come on give it to us bangs tell us

04:34:33.520 tell us how evil andrew wilson is because you insulted him and he insulted you back tell us bangs

04:34:39.600 okay i was gonna say that i feel like women are kind of like the root it's women it's women say

04:34:45.200 women it's not woman woman's not the plural form of women you've done this the entire night

04:34:50.080 say women say women try it just try it please say women okay so um

04:34:56.480 dude you're so angry you need to calm down my father doesn't even talk can you say women instead

04:35:06.000 of women no it's just like it's just like kind of ridiculous because like you're like i don't know

04:35:11.600 like who do you speak to your wife and your daughter that way oh like my daughter i mean my

04:35:17.040 dad oh you got me do i speak to respectable women in a disrespectful way no i speak to disrespectful

04:35:22.640 women in a disrespectful way you're crazy dude i just know my father these aren't arguments it's

04:35:29.200 just emotional appeal the only one who has been emotional has had a reaction is you mister i don't

04:35:36.160 know you've been freaking out the entire night i barely said anything you're crazy but okay you're

04:35:44.240 he had a meltdown because i said because i said woman instead of woman i you know what i think that's

04:35:50.320 that's that's warranted to be honest english isn't my first language neither is it mine

04:35:58.800 you're french right i'm technically african-american but how are you there hold on

04:36:08.960 my wife has requested to speak with bangs oh wants to hear the allegation of how abusive

04:36:14.560 and awful i never said you were abusive no no do you talk to your wife this way it's pretty awful

04:36:21.440 okay rachel the floor is yours you can come on down she's been uh she she did request it she doesn't

04:36:26.960 request to talk to the women on whatever that often but god help you and may may he have mercy upon your

04:36:32.560 soul thanks we're all right we're gonna get her uh really quick so my dad was born in north africa and

04:36:39.280 my mom was born in america so technically eric i am african-american i'm not black you're part of

04:36:49.280 north africa algeria so you're algerian america because africa is a country it's not it's a continent

04:36:56.800 not a country but america is also a continent it's a messed up word from the beginning i don't agree

04:37:03.680 with the african-american concept but i guess for lack of a better word you have to use that but

04:37:07.840 you can't be a continent continent but that's a whole nother conversation do you consider me an

04:37:11.920 african-american absolutely not but my i don't consider myself african-american here

04:37:21.200 oh you're trying to get that did i do it right absolutely not too many steps sorry i'm gonna show

04:37:26.880 you i'm too white it's two is one boom let's see you you go with it it is too quick do you snap is there

04:37:34.080 a snap no it's just it's it's one no there's no snap it's slap slap grip grip we should do this on

04:37:41.360 camera come oh wait oh it's a slap slap that's a good angle damon there's a slap slap and then there's

04:37:48.960 a grip so it's really boom follow me all right and when you leave you do the lock the lock and then

04:37:55.280 that's it can i snap you can can i snap it's kind of old eight-ish but you can do it if you want to you

04:38:00.000 know is it kind of a bit zesty is the snap zesty depends on how you if you snap this way yeah that's

04:38:06.080 that's dusty but if you just you know you got to keep your snap like what about the finger gun

04:38:10.320 like i it's the the and then the finger gun is that i never heard of that one you've never here

04:38:15.520 let's try it again boom see you you the second step is there's too much movement am i doing it right

04:38:21.040 there's too much movement it's just bang come in come then lock slap hug lock like this is so

04:38:28.080 embarrassing stop no finger guns uh before we have rachel come in really quick actually no go ahead

04:38:34.720 rachel go ahead rachel go ahead well hello hi everybody hey hi coming to frame so whenever

04:38:43.440 people say silly things like oh i feel sorry for your wife and kids i always say i'm happy to come on and

04:38:51.040 you know say hello and you know just field any questions you guys might have about what it's

04:38:57.360 like to be married to a based giga chad like andrew so if you have anything to say here i am

04:39:07.360 i'll go first then how do you feel with your husband like making these comments like online as well

04:39:14.480 well just like saying rude things to women or like screaming over them like how do you feel with that

04:39:19.760 well he doesn't say rude things to women until they say something rude to him first so bangs was

04:39:26.720 the first one to say he's got wrinkles and he's old and he's got gray hair okay he's gross so of course

04:39:34.080 he's gonna say something back and they've had exchanges back and forth before and she's plenty

04:39:38.960 happy to be rude and say mean things to him first everyone thinks that's okay because she's a woman but

04:39:45.520 if andrew just simply gives her a taste of her own medicine back you all go you believe he said that

04:39:52.240 it's like why why is it fine for her to insult him but it's uncalled for when he just simply gives it

04:39:59.360 back to her what's wrong with that also last time i was on here he said that i wasn't a 10 because i had

04:40:06.080 small boobies and i didn't do anything i just said i was a 10. i have a question for you too he said that

04:40:14.640 you're getting worse with age how do you feel about that well i've been on the show myself and i'm 44

04:40:21.040 years old i've had five kids so no i'm not as hot as i was when i was 22. like this is a fact of life

04:40:29.120 that all women have to deal with the time of your life that you're hot is it's like short and it's

04:40:36.240 limited you're not going to always be a hot chick so you can't expect that part of your life to last

04:40:43.840 forever i mean it's just a fact of life that we all get less attractive as we age doesn't mean he's

04:40:50.640 not attracted to me or i'm not attracted to him but it's i'm not as hot as i was when i was 22. in fact

04:40:56.480 when i was on the show i rated myself a five and everybody always gets upset with andrew because

04:41:01.440 he rates me a six and i'm like i think he's giving me just a a hair more than i deserve but i'm a normal

04:41:09.200 regular 44 year old midwestern mom of five you want me to come on here and say i'm a 10 do i look like

04:41:16.960 pamela anderson you know what i mean it's like come on just be realistic you guys get upset with him

04:41:22.880 because he tries to give you a little tiny dose of reality and he doesn't blow a bunch of smoke up

04:41:28.080 your ass but he's never rude or mean unless you do it to him first that's not true

04:41:35.520 okay can you give me an example i just gave you one well you had an attitude so you were being

04:41:42.320 kind of like how you did early where you're like i'm gonna dominate a man and i'm gonna live

04:41:45.680 no but come with a sassy attitude and then call yourself a 10 when you're clearly objectively not a 10

04:41:51.520 i can have that's just that was just my personality but when i when i said it was like that comment

04:41:56.160 like when it's like when the person said rate yourself one through 10 i literally when it was

04:41:59.840 my turn i said 10 and then i was like and then i was like do you want me to stand up you know because

04:42:03.840 i wanted um i wanted him to rate me and then he gave me an eight but then he was like and i he had

04:42:10.640 andrew rate me he said like a three or he's like she's not a 10 she has no boobies doesn't that make

04:42:17.040 you uncomfortable i was like what like i didn't i didn't do anything i just rated myself

04:42:20.720 isn't that weird that your man is looking at her chest isn't that weird oh she stood up and

04:42:27.040 asked to have her body evaluated no no but no i said i was i was asking i wasn't asking for him by

04:42:33.200 the time i asked and he wanted uh what's his name andrew so just a second here brian you said you were

04:42:41.760 a 10 andrew said no you're not a 10 and he had to explain why so that was the reason he gave that's

04:42:48.240 his opinion no it doesn't make me uncomfortable it doesn't bother me but it made it was so unnecessary

04:42:54.800 that's why i'm saying that he is mean when when there's no reason to be mean like that was like i

04:43:00.000 was like oh okay uh yeah i like that was that his comment was so unnecessary i watch i watch every

04:43:06.000 episode you were no little angel you were not some sweet nice girl i am not an angel i'm not i never said

04:43:12.000 that right so you had attitude you had sass you yeah but never yeah but like and that small boobs

04:43:19.520 then you have small boobs like what do you want me to say like i'm sorry that the comment wasn't

04:43:23.200 necessary the comment wasn't necessary we're just asking for how you feel about your grown-ass husband

04:43:28.480 saying that stuff first of all don't ever say grown ass man it's ghetto i don't give a

04:43:34.960 fuck you know what ghetto is all of you've been to all this college and i'm like where's all the

04:43:41.680 college education for all these college educate you're all in college and you can't put two you

04:43:46.240 know you're not even you're not even using the word ghetto right so you have like no he's a grown ass

04:43:51.360 he's not a grown ass but saying those words does not make her ghetto you have no you know what ghetto

04:43:57.040 is a white woman saying the word ghetto crazy i feel bad for you crazy i feel bad for you because

04:44:05.040 you're 22 and you're on only fans and you've already hit your peak and you're plenty happy to be rude you

04:44:11.760 have been so rude on this show bang don't sit here and gaslight this whole audience we've all seen you

04:44:16.960 on here multiple appearances you are rude and nasty as you can be and then you do that gets the views

04:44:25.360 why do you think i keep getting invited back why do you think i keep getting invited back she's

04:44:31.120 every time i'm on here i am the title i am the title every time i can't hear them when you both

04:44:37.120 start clucking no i said that it's like i just complimented like you guys are literally the

04:44:41.520 perfect couple like i see why he's attracted to you like yes you guys are a perfect couple definitely

04:44:47.280 listen i think it's mean i think it's actually the cruel thing to do to let young women have free

04:44:53.040 license to act terrible to be entitled to be rude to think that they owe everything handed to them on

04:44:59.760 a silver plant platter because they push their boobs up to act like this short phase of life when you're

04:45:05.200 at your peak fertility is going to last forever it that is what's mean because what happens i'm sorry

04:45:11.520 you're all you can't live that anymore and we are we're going through it like what see this is the

04:45:16.560 thing though i never did that i didn't do this thing where i was just like giving old and mad

04:45:22.160 my 20s and 30s you are you gonna let me talk or what so i didn't do this thing i never did only

04:45:28.240 fans i didn't sell pornography i didn't go through a party hoe phase i was a mom when i was 20 years old

04:45:34.000 i only ever wanted to be in long-term committed relationships i was hoping i would just get married

04:45:38.960 and that would be it i did get divorced wasn't my fault wasn't anything that could be done about it

04:45:44.560 lesson learned didn't repeat that but what i'm telling you is the mean thing is the whole world

04:45:51.040 telling you that you guys are strong independent women where you're going to cry because your hair

04:45:56.320 straightener stopped working on your not so much on me you said that you were being or your man was

04:46:00.720 only being rude to people who are being rude i haven't been rude so i don't feel like you should

04:46:05.520 come for me did you say confront you come for me come for you i'm not coming for you i'm saying

04:46:14.000 it's absurd for you to believe that it's like normal behavior to cry because you're straight

04:46:20.720 iron broke or cry on every birthday like young women live in such delusion nowadays that's why

04:46:25.760 everything's all messed up that's why everything's gone to hell in a hand basket you guys are not acting

04:46:31.680 like the grown strong independent equal with men women that you claim to be and when i just come on

04:46:37.600 here and say look this behavior is ridiculous this is silly and absurd you you can't even take it you

04:46:44.080 can't take the slightest bit of just like obvious criticism i'm not calling you names i'm not swearing

04:46:49.440 at you or anything like that i'm just saying you guys were like well we want to know how you feel

04:46:54.400 about this and your husband is rude and we don't like it's like okay i'm trying to explain it to you

04:46:58.560 okay can i explain to you that this princess fantasy world that you live in does need to be

04:47:05.760 somebody needs to break that down for you because that's not reality can i ask you a genuine question

04:47:12.160 yeah um how long have you been with andrew like marriage or like in a like dating and married i would

04:47:21.120 say like in a romantic 17 years okay 17 years so that's a long time you guys seem like a relatively

04:47:28.400 happy couple right now um i'm sure you guys had to have some sort of like emotional connection right

04:47:36.000 to like make your whole relationship last 17 years can you tell me like how you guys do that because he

04:47:43.600 made a remark earlier about women and not liking like men not being vulnerable because women will use that

04:47:51.760 against them and so like he was saying men shouldn't really show like a lot of emotions and

04:47:58.000 i'm genuinely curious if you've been with him for 17 years like how do you guys keep that because

04:48:03.040 i'm sure you guys get into fights too you guys are human uh early on we got into more fights because

04:48:10.000 i still look we all of you girls and me included okay i'm not i wasn't like born a great wife i don't

04:48:16.480 think great wives are born i think they're made i think it's something you have to it's like anything

04:48:20.880 else it's a skill you have to learn and you have to work on so early on yeah i had some attitude issues

04:48:27.120 here and there not probably not to the extent that a lot of women do but i would do stupid

04:48:31.360 shit like uh if he gave me like a little bit of you know stern if he would say i know you know we're

04:48:38.080 not going to do that and i'd get like pouty and like throw a remote control at him or something

04:48:42.160 and he'd be like uh excuse me uh if you're gonna throw stuff at me i'm not gonna be with you like

04:48:48.720 if that's how you're gonna behave i'll just walk out he wouldn't get angry or yell at me he was just

04:48:53.600 like i'm not gonna tolerate that and at first i would be like well that's so like how could and

04:49:00.720 then i thought about it and i went wait do i want to be the chick that throws stuff at my man like

04:49:07.040 because he said something that like just hit me wrong in the ear right so i learned that andrew's

04:49:13.520 a man who has boundaries and he doesn't ever need to be like loud with me or rude with me to enforce

04:49:20.000 them he's just firm he's just and he'll just be like nope you know i'm just not going to accept

04:49:25.600 that so as time went on of course we got closer and you know we share things we share life experiences

04:49:32.240 and he'll tell me how he feels about things to a certain extent but what he doesn't do is talk to

04:49:37.040 me like i'm one of his girlfriends right he doesn't come home from work and be like

04:49:41.840 you know it was just such a tough day at work and this guy said something to me and it really made me

04:49:46.160 feel unappreciated and like he doesn't dump like all of his emotional stuff on me he has guy friends

04:49:53.120 for that he has a dad he can talk to if he's got like man stuff to talk about we talk about what's

04:49:59.360 pertinent and we're super close like anybody who watches the show probably already knows

04:50:03.200 that he and i are like inseparable super close best friends but it's it's still like a male female

04:50:09.440 relationship i don't expect him to act like one of my girlfriends and i think a lot of young

04:50:15.360 women especially they want their boyfriend to act like one of their girlfriends would and you

04:50:20.240 shouldn't expect that from a man because here's why if he actually did that you wouldn't like it

04:50:26.080 if your boyfriend wanted to cry in your arms all the time when he had a bad day at work you would

04:50:30.720 very quickly be like you'd be dry as the sahara right it would just not be a turn on for you so

04:50:36.640 i think when you're young you think you want that stuff from a man but you really don't

04:50:40.480 so yeah we i mean we're super close but he doesn't have to like pour out his emotions to

04:50:46.560 me all the time he does when he wants to and when he feels like that's something he wants to do

04:50:53.040 like time i respect it if he doesn't want to do that okay and like do you kind of i mean you guys

04:50:57.920 are 17 years and do you know like his like childhood the way he grew up and does that help you like

04:51:03.680 understand him a lot better on why he acts the way he acts in certain situations because you know his

04:51:09.360 like background yeah i mean yeah but that's because you know you get to know their family

04:51:14.160 you hear stories you know like of course i know his parents and his siblings and so i've heard stories

04:51:19.840 about him growing up he'll tell me stories about growing up but he's not going to sit down with me

04:51:23.680 like a therapist and be like you know when i was growing up i felt like my mom did this or my dad did

04:51:29.360 that and here's here's how it affected my development like he's not going to talk to me

04:51:34.800 like that right so i do know him i know him really well and i can observe his dynamic with his family

04:51:40.720 and hear stories so that's like how you get to know a man it's not going to be like he's going to sit

04:51:46.000 down on the phone with you for four hours and pour out his heart necessarily maybe some guys do that

04:51:51.040 maybe it works for some people but andrew is like he is a pretty stoic guy he's the same guy at

04:51:56.800 home that he is on the show the difference is that he never has to have the same dynamic with

04:52:02.800 me that he has with you guys because it's a different relationship number one i'm like pretty

04:52:07.600 smart to be honest so she feels like we're on the same level and um i'm really respectful i'm very

04:52:15.120 submissive are you implying that we're stupid i'm not saying you're stupid i'm saying that it tends

04:52:21.840 to be the case that a lot of the young ladies who come on here are not like so andrew's like a

04:52:26.960 logician he knows philosophy he knows history he's like a really really really smart guy and so

04:52:33.520 sometimes there's a little bit of a mismatch there and the girls will take what he says wrong because

04:52:40.160 they think he's talking down to them when all he's doing is talking how he normally talks so he and i

04:52:45.360 don't have that like discrepancy i'm like uh also i write books and i'm pretty educated and stuff like

04:52:51.920 that so i just think we're like on the same level and we have similar communication styles so we don't

04:52:57.680 have the same issue like i don't take offense easily either if he tells me oh man i really like

04:53:06.320 if i i got bangs once and he was like really don't like the bangs babe like you're you're very pretty

04:53:11.760 don't like the bangs i'm just like okay no problem he doesn't like the bangs we'll grow out the bangs

04:53:16.640 whereas a lot of women i think would like cry and get very upset and it would be like a whole issue

04:53:21.040 and it's just not for me so as far i'm just saying like personality wise we match up pretty well that

04:53:26.480 way for the most part noted thanks for sharing yeah so i mean i'm just saying don't sit there like

04:53:33.920 victims if you're willing to dish it out bangs you got to be willing to take it you can't sit there

04:53:39.680 and call him wrinkly and old and insult him first and then if he goes yeah well you know looks like

04:53:46.000 you've gained some weight since the last time you've been here says something like that it's

04:53:48.960 like what do you expect him to say you knew what he was gonna say if you said something like that to

04:53:53.280 him so but i'm not getting mad at him when he says anything i literally just laugh and i smile and

04:53:59.600 it's okay nod my head if you're that's like i don't know do you guys want me to get mad or what what

04:54:04.960 were what reaction are you what reaction is he looking for then because it's obviously not good

04:54:09.520 enough just smiling and nodding my head when he calls me that he's not looking for reaction i wanted

04:54:15.280 to come on because you say now to me now that i'm here like oh it doesn't really bother me i just

04:54:20.560 give it back and we do the back and forth that's fine there's nothing wrong with that if you like

04:54:25.040 to give him some shit and you don't mind if he gives you some shit back there's no problem with

04:54:29.280 that i don't what you can't do is give him shit and then go he gave me shit back girl no one did

04:54:35.760 that no one did that you well you said i wonder how i feel sorry for your wife and you don't have

04:54:42.480 to feel sorry for me i have a great husband he's a really brilliant guy a really entertaining guy he

04:54:48.400 is a very handsome guy awesome awesome i don't know i don't know why you have to come on here and

04:54:54.000 defend it for us if you were secure because you were secure you felt sorry for me so i'm just

04:55:00.400 letting you know you don't have to feel sorry i couldn't be more blessed to have the husband that

04:55:06.400 i have which honestly i feel like i'm punching above my weight a little bit being married to this guy but

04:55:11.120 um so don't feel sorry for me uh i'm doing just fine i'm very happy wouldn't wouldn't want to be with

04:55:17.920 anybody else and that he's a great dad he we have four daughters he's a great dad super nice dad

04:55:24.480 really really caring uh but our kids also are really well behaved they don't give them a bunch of

04:55:28.960 shit and they don't give a bunch a bunch of attitude and if they did they'd hear it from me

04:55:33.440 before they heard it from him because i would never allow them to disrespect him so we have a very

04:55:38.720 healthy like good family dynamic um and people seem to think that it's weird for parents to have

04:55:45.280 boundaries or for spouses to treat each other respectfully i guess i don't i don't know what

04:55:50.640 you guys think is the problem i just mean personally have never had a grown man talk to me that way

04:55:57.600 well that's shocking see that's the problem you are used to giving people shit and attitude and being

04:56:04.240 you think you have free license to insult people or have a sassy attitude and that because you have

04:56:08.880 your big boobies pushed up the men aren't gonna say anything girl andrew do you think he was 40 and

04:56:14.480 married and he doesn't give a shit so he's going to give it right back to you and if all men were

04:56:18.720 that way you wouldn't have the attitude you have okay i don't act like this outside of here this is

04:56:24.480 all for show what is okay girl well if that's the case then i don't know what the problem is me either

04:56:31.760 i don't know what you decided you wanted to come on here and have a chat with me so yeah because you

04:56:36.800 you invoked me a couple of times a couple different times now you've made comments about oh your wife

04:56:42.160 do you talk to your wife this way i feel bad for her i can't believe you have a wife when you act

04:56:47.040 like this and it's like if you know the nature of the show and this is all for show then there shouldn't

04:56:52.400 be a problem there's been plenty of women on this show by the way who andrew has been super nice to

04:56:57.840 has got along with great the only time he gives women's is if they give him first

04:57:02.960 if they come on with an attitude if they act entitled things like that then yeah he's gonna he's

04:57:07.840 going to match your energy so i can just spot an insecure man when i see one so that's bullshit

04:57:17.280 and you know it you're just saying that it's your hope you're coping no one's there's nothing insecure

04:57:24.400 about andrew it's pretty clear that he's not insecure so he was like crying because i didn't say

04:57:30.720 woman i said woman and he got really mad and he was crying and he was like fake crying i want

04:57:37.680 you to say something it was like age regression we saw age regression right now but repeat after

04:57:42.400 me bang say no one one woman and three women went shopping

04:57:50.640 go ahead one woman and three women went shopping can you do it no you're not my mom sorry

04:57:59.600 well i tried it's just something we noticed i don't know if it's a california girl thing or if

04:58:05.920 it's like a gen z thing but y'all don't know the difference between woman and women and it drives

04:58:11.840 everyone crazy read the comments section sometime under the show everybody notices it well i don't

04:58:16.880 know what to tell you it's it's how we speak over here that's how y'all talk real words y'all really

04:58:22.560 talk like that yeah i honestly didn't even notice yeah me either i never noticed it until i came on

04:58:27.360 the show you never knew there's a difference between women no i knew there's a difference when

04:58:31.040 i write it i write it the correct way but i guess when i speak it it comes out weird really pisses people

04:58:37.600 off yeah hey rachel what do you think brian uh what do i think about just whatever you guys were just

04:58:50.880 about the woman women woman woman women oh no about andrew being mean and everybody being

04:58:56.960 worried about me everybody being concerned on my behalf okay it's okay girl we know you're fine

04:59:02.720 we know you're fine you're good well i know both of you personally and i know you guys have a really

04:59:06.400 fantastic relationship um we've had you in the studio we've had andrew a bunch um and uh it is to be

04:59:15.040 fair banks well i guess not to be fair to you but uh you did you started it i don't remember what i

04:59:24.560 said but i probably did you said something about how his looks or his age or something and he had not

04:59:30.160 said anything yet rude to you and then uh he's the type of guy it's okay i'm saying that i don't care if

04:59:40.080 he threw shit back at me that's how it is i never came and cried that he's like oh my god he cried he

04:59:45.360 called me fat he if we look back at it he cried andrew i'm pretty sure andrew was not crying okay

04:59:52.960 it's fine you guys can rewatch it but i never got crying yeah he was crying because i didn't say

04:59:58.480 because i said because i mispronounced andrew andrew's been on all that crying and he was literally

05:00:03.600 age regression right in front of that's wow you are the first woman to make andrew cry that is

05:00:08.880 i'm telling you wow good for you thanks didn't you guys have that power evil she did call yeah

05:00:16.160 i said he i said he steals candy from babies yeah yeah it's it's that type of evil it's giving it's

05:00:23.200 yeah i feel like no yeah it's giving like i don't know like cartoon evil like you know like cartoon

05:00:29.680 villain that's what i think she made some good points though i think one point that um she's

05:00:34.160 made that i have to agree with which i said as well that women that's why i always ask what type of man

05:00:41.120 a woman dealt with because a lot of modern women young women a lot of these caches really be telling

05:00:46.400 y'all what y'all want to hear and when you meet a guy that's slightly objective and slightly

05:00:52.240 assertive he gets put in this category of a demonized guy he's toxic and all that and sometimes it is

05:00:58.080 extreme but a lot of times like she said a lot of women just never been told the truth in their life

05:01:03.520 and when a man decides to do that it's like but y'all mind-blowing but you also have to consider

05:01:09.440 where people like okay yeah like maybe she's a california girl but you also consider the people

05:01:13.520 like why like like why why i talk the way i did so if i gave him an attitude and that's why he called

05:01:18.640 my like my little cha-chas are small but then that's just how i grew up like like just how i that's

05:01:24.800 how she grew up yeah like she grew up it's like in the mean streets of chicago like and that's just

05:01:31.440 it's just normal to me so i may not like i don't mean to come off that way or like sassy or like

05:01:36.320 attitude-y but like that's just how i talk and i just like but i'm don't get me wrong like you

05:01:40.720 definitely like impressed me because honestly like you are literally the female version of him and i love

05:01:45.760 that and uh rachel what what i guess getting off of the meta conversation uh what do you what do you

05:01:52.560 think about the boss babe phenomenon rachel what do you what do you think about that i think it's

05:01:58.320 all a huge farce i think it's all a mirage it doesn't exist i think that women thinking that

05:02:03.920 they're boss babes is high in the sky silliness i think it's a result of a hundred years of feminist

05:02:10.320 propaganda and that a lot of women really buy into it because it's in everything right every pop star

05:02:17.600 every singer every rapper every movie star every tv show you've watched since you were a little kid

05:02:23.040 tells you that you can be an ass-kicking chick you can take out all the bad guys in the movie like

05:02:28.400 roundhouse kicking their ass when you're 90 pounds that you can you know be a ceo and do all the things

05:02:33.840 the men do and it's going to work out for you the same way it works out for them and that's just not

05:02:37.600 reality so um i actually have a book i wrote about the history of feminism and how that all happened

05:02:43.200 um but yeah it's just it's made women pretty miserable all the surveys we've done on women

05:02:50.800 since the 1970s show that they're like far unhappier by every metric we can measure than they've ever

05:02:56.640 been higher rates of alcoholism drug abuse mental illness loneliness childlessness we have a birth

05:03:04.640 rate collapse uh women now are saying they can't find men on their level because they'll go to college

05:03:10.560 for like you know four to eight years they'll get a degree they'll start their career and then

05:03:15.120 they'll hit like 32 they want to settle down with a guy and they're like well he has to make more than

05:03:20.400 me and he has to be a foot taller than me and he has to be all these things but by the time you're in

05:03:25.680 your mid-30s those guys have already picked girls that are like in their early 20s we're going to give

05:03:30.160 them a bunch of kids and stuff like that so women have all these expectations that are not realistic

05:03:35.440 they get out into the world as adults things don't match up and they're like what's wrong i don't

05:03:40.240 understand what's happening i don't know what's wrong i did everything i was supposed to do i went

05:03:44.240 to college i have a career um i look really pretty i have all the extensions and the fake tan and the

05:03:50.320 fake boobs and i did all the things why are things not going how i expected and i think it's because

05:03:57.120 we tell them that they can be like men and we're not like men so i have a question so like do you not

05:04:04.160 think women can be successful on their own career wise and still have a happy marriage and meet

05:04:11.680 someone good you know around their same social circle it depends on what you mean by successful

05:04:17.680 are there some women who achieve that sure they're out there like do you not so you don't agree that

05:04:23.840 women should be successful on their own you just think that they need to depend on a man and get

05:04:28.960 married young see that's a false choice that you're creating you're you're saying like either

05:04:34.560 i can't either i have to be completely dependent on my man and never do anything with my life or i

05:04:39.920 have to be successful on my own first and then find somebody i think we give women backwards advice i

05:04:46.080 think that it's biological reality that you have a limited fertility window in your life where it's

05:04:52.160 best for you to have children between the ages of about 20 to 35 right you got about 15 years where it's

05:04:58.880 the best time to have kids and when you're going to be able to have the most kids so if you spend all

05:05:04.160 of your 20s going to college and building a career and you don't even think about settling down until

05:05:09.200 you're 30 which i think you had said that you said basically i'm gonna wait until all my eggs are pretty

05:05:14.560 much gone and then i'll think about you know then i'll think about getting a husband when i'm at the

05:05:19.680 end of my fertile years it's not that you can't get pregnant like in your later 30s or even your

05:05:25.520 early 40s but it gets harder and harder you have higher risk of complications and if you have your

05:05:30.640 first one when you're 35 you might have one more in most cases and that's it and that's the main reason

05:05:37.680 that we only have 1.6 births per woman in this country and in most developed countries around

05:05:41.920 the whole world now because women are waiting the average age that a woman gets married now in the

05:05:46.640 u.s i think is 31. it used to be 22. but the first age of birth is like 29 and it used to be like 23.

05:05:54.640 so i have a quick question why do you think women are waiting because they're told that they have to

05:06:02.160 have their own money they got to have their own you got to have your own career your own money and then

05:06:07.280 you look for the guy and what happens is most i mean some of you guys here say that you're virgins

05:06:13.680 and that's awesome if you're virgins that's great i i approve but most women do not most women go to

05:06:20.160 college and they run through a whole ton of guys right they by the time they hit 30 let's say you only

05:06:26.000 sleep with two guys a year on average let's say you lose your virginity at 18. pretty late for most

05:06:32.960 women but let's just say 18 and you go till you're 30 that's 12 years if you only have an average of

05:06:39.600 two bodies a year you're up to 24 guys by the time you're 30 and you're in your 30s and now you're going

05:06:46.000 to look for a husband it's just backwards advice so i always i always say have your family first put

05:06:52.080 your family first because you only have a limited amount of time to do that then you might be like me

05:06:57.600 and you're 44 and all your kids are grown you've already done all of that and now you can be doing

05:07:02.800 other things you got a lot of years left i have like you know hopefully 30 more years to do other

05:07:08.320 things and i got to have my family you cannot bring a child and start a family if you are not if you have

05:07:15.520 no like safety net if you have no job no career or anything and you're just gonna selfishly bring in

05:07:24.400 a child into this world to suffer because you have no safety net and you have no money

05:07:32.400 and now you have to provide you went to the worst possible scenario though but then no that's really

05:07:36.880 what happened that happens very very often yes you're very surprised like wait a sec real quick chair

05:07:43.360 five were you going to say the same thing did you have the same objection no i was going to say like

05:07:47.120 you're saying that how people um like women wait i actually think that because of this generation i think

05:07:52.560 people have women have a mindset where they choose not to have children until they meet the right

05:07:58.160 guy it's not like oh like for me i don't want children but who knows you know i mean like who

05:08:02.560 freaking knows where i'm going to be at or mindset wise when i'm when i just oh like i get married like

05:08:07.760 i don't want to get married but you don't know what's going to happen so personally i don't want

05:08:10.880 children ever okay but so it's not me waiting it's just having a family is a very permanent decision

05:08:16.960 and it takes a lot of responsibility and if you're 20 and you are not going to college you are not you

05:08:24.800 don't have a job and your only thing in your head is i need a family i need a family your priorities are

05:08:31.440 completely out of whack can i can i say so i want to respond to bangs really quick because what she just

05:08:36.720 said that is the brainwashing i'm talking about that's the propaganda that i'm talking about for all of

05:08:43.760 human history until 50 years ago maybe 40 years ago people did things the way i did it people did

05:08:51.280 the way i'm recommending everyone had their children at 18 19 20 22 years old everyone got married young

05:08:58.320 it worked for thousands and thousands of years and now suddenly you're going to tell me that that

05:09:04.160 doesn't work no of course it works not in this economy girl yeah i know how do you how do you think

05:09:12.400 the economy got this way because we were able to raise kids on one income for all of human history

05:09:19.120 until again 40 or 50 years ago what changed what changed in the 70s that made it so that you need

05:09:26.080 two incomes now to survive what do you think it is pricing like literally everything's more expensive

05:09:30.560 now that's right wrong it's not that we've had much higher periods of inflation my mom okay can i

05:09:36.000 say something that happened this is like my field of research i can tell you exactly why it happened

05:09:40.880 can i put my own experiences on top of what you're gonna say like literally my mom is my mom is almost

05:09:46.720 70 years old and she has literally 12 children yeah 12 children same same mom same dad and she has 12 of

05:09:55.040 them and on her own she would not have been able to do it why because yes she's a lot older and she did

05:10:00.560 believe oh yes i need a family like i can do this like everything but yes we did grow up and struggle and

05:10:06.560 my mom still tells us tells us that she preferred that she never had children simply because she

05:10:12.640 made our life our entire our entire lives were shit like our entire lives wait wait hold on your mom

05:10:18.400 told you she prefer like would have preferred and she said not have you all of us because only because

05:10:24.880 they heard the life that she gave us no because the life that she gave us was so bad like she wasn't

05:10:30.800 she couldn't give us like a good life for all of us the quality of life is important no she had my

05:10:37.040 dad my dad and they both worked yes and my if they worked and even though like you know i was born in

05:10:42.400 2001 my mom was still struggling with two house incomes with the economy that we're living now so

05:10:47.280 for me to say like my mom literally like it feels like she feels bad for us like how she she couldn't

05:10:52.880 provide more for us than she really wanted to with two incomes so but then with the same at the same

05:10:58.080 token then you got that you have to take accountability of what you can possibly do if

05:11:02.400 two parents know they can't uh afford to do that's exactly what i'm saying that's exactly what i'm

05:11:09.680 saying she's saying that they have what it takes to to take care of children they have if you know that

05:11:14.000 you financially with two people are not strong enough no offense no why would you have 12 children

05:11:19.280 no that's all i'm saying they they are they were but they weren't i'm telling you when time went on

05:11:23.920 when my mom got older and she had more children the economy worsened where things became more

05:11:27.840 expensive rent went and came up rent came up mind you my oldest my oldest sibling is as old as she

05:11:34.640 is that's my older brother my brother my brother's 45 years old you don't need to have children at 20

05:11:41.040 you can wait until you are more secure and you have you're stable but she explained why so what y'all

05:11:46.960 are talking about is emotions she's talking about she's literally she's not saying that we should we

05:11:51.280 shouldn't wait to be physic you need to be prepared to have a family you can't just bring in a family

05:11:57.200 and she's calling us brainwashed can i can i did call us brain go ahead rachel go ahead okay i'm not

05:12:03.280 putting you down by saying you're brainwashed that you literally have been propagandized to go to

05:12:08.480 college and not have kids this is a purposeful thing that they did it was a top-down deal book explains

05:12:14.400 everything we don't have time to go into that now but all throughout history people have been poor

05:12:19.600 poverty is a reality it's never going to completely go away there will always be poor people and by the way

05:12:24.480 the only people who are still having kids above replacement level level are the poorest people

05:12:29.360 in the world people aren't not having kids because they don't have money that people think that it's

05:12:34.800 not true the richer people are the ones not having any kids the poor are still having more children

05:12:41.520 i'm not saying that that's good but what i'm saying is that you absolutely can have a family on the

05:12:48.080 younger side and that if we didn't have every single woman working in the workforce this is why it's not

05:12:54.080 affordable in the 1970s the government pushed women into the workforce it was a cia program there was

05:13:00.960 federal funding behind it to push women into colleges and universities to give them grants to go to

05:13:06.800 school to give them loans to go to college and so all the women entered the workforce in huge numbers

05:13:12.720 in the 1970s and it created there's my cat a depression in wages so men's wages have completely stagnated and

05:13:21.040 no you you really have a hard time having a family on one income anymore that's not the way things are

05:13:27.280 supposed to be and it was never like that until we pushed women out of the home and into the workforce

05:13:33.600 that is the primary cause of the two income economy so people could have families they could get married

05:13:40.000 young if we had uh women being responsible if we encouraged women to maintain their chastity to not go to

05:13:46.240 college for like none of you guys so only men have a chance in this world and women don't is that what

05:13:52.800 you're saying only men can go to college and women can't hold on lady you're brainwashed no i'm not

05:13:59.920 here for the sake of families not everybody wants to have a damn family hold on you got let let here

05:14:06.160 rachel i'm gonna have you finish then you wanted to come in then eric wanted to come in then you can go go

05:14:11.840 ahead okay so the problem with your thinking here is who's going to have the babies and i know you're

05:14:18.080 all going to say we don't care we don't care if i don't i don't want babies i don't want a family i

05:14:21.680 don't care about that i did a big rant on the last time i was on about why collapsing birth rates

05:14:26.800 are going to force us back into the dark ages if we're not careful we are on the edge of population

05:14:32.080 collapse and you're going to be offended and that's okay it's i understand the reaction but none of you have

05:14:38.880 a degree in anything that's worth a shit you have degrees in stuff like theater communications

05:14:44.080 women get degrees in stuff like psychology interior design hr management all this kind of nonsense

05:14:51.600 okay the men are the ones that do all the really important essential functions in the world they

05:14:56.400 build all the infrastructure they do all the engineering men still occupy all the dirty dangerous

05:15:02.400 and difficult jobs most women have jobs that are cushy and could be done by men easily

05:15:08.480 and used to be done by men who were like entry level in the workforce or or other men that had

05:15:13.360 the same skills women also have kept the same jobs for the last century you've all had the opportunity

05:15:20.480 to do whatever you want you could have been engineers could have worked for nasa could have been building

05:15:24.880 rockets with elon you could have been doing all working on oil rigs you could have been lump timber

05:15:30.480 logging people you don't want to do that you want a cushy office job you want a paper pushing desk job

05:15:37.280 that anyone can fill it would be better if we encouraged women to be mothers and have families

05:15:43.600 now i'm not saying everyone has to have five kids or 12 kids but i'm saying we need more than 1.6

05:15:50.080 children per person or you're going to run into what's happening in places like south korea

05:15:54.080 japan and canada where they have such an imbalance in the population of older people there's not enough

05:15:59.760 younger people to support the older people who are still living and that's going to be all of you

05:16:04.800 all of you are probably going to live into your 80s and you won't have kids to take care of you and

05:16:10.000 there won't be a younger generation that can support you in your old age and pay for your medical care

05:16:14.160 and everything that you're going to need when you're too old to work and this is a real problem

05:16:19.040 it's a very serious problem the un has been projecting this for decades world leaders are

05:16:24.000 trying to figure out what the hell to do about it it's a serious problem so for all of you to sit there

05:16:28.320 and go well i want to i want to be a psychologist and i'm going to chase my dream and to hell with

05:16:33.680 the future it's like okay but that future is your future too so it's very short-sighted to sit here

05:16:39.840 and be like well whatever i'm just going to do what i want when i'm young and and

05:16:43.600 whatever happens when i'm older you guys don't realize there's a lot of life after 40.

05:16:48.720 what if you're alone for 45 years you know what if there's no infrastructure to support you in your old

05:16:54.080 age so it's not just about you there's a society to think about too you wanted to come in go ahead

05:17:00.960 please so first of all a lot i was not expecting to talk about this when i came on the podcast today

05:17:07.920 so i'm kind of glad we are um and thank you for saying my accounting degree was ship but i'm going

05:17:13.120 to move past that um it's okay totally understand first thing is i did want to address how you talked

05:17:20.560 about the propaganda of pushing a double income household right so pushing women into work pushing

05:17:30.160 telling them that motherhood is for losers who can't hack it in the career world yeah so i wanted to

05:17:35.120 talk about that which i'm not going to agree or disagree on that because that was before my time

05:17:39.840 i could do more research on it but since i'm not an expert i'm not going to speak too strongly but for

05:17:44.320 the current day and age if i want to get a house in california and stay here i will have a double

05:17:50.560 income household i do not want to subject my children if i do have any to live in a situation

05:17:57.120 where they can't feel supported they can't like go for their dreams that they want if they want to

05:18:02.400 pursue a degree they can if they want to work in an oil rig they can my roommate also does engineering

05:18:08.000 and she works at oil rigs at like 6am goes out to check it but going back to what i'm saying is which

05:18:14.800 is good for her i couldn't do what she does because i do accounting um but sorry i'm digressing so going

05:18:20.080 back to the double income family i do i think a lot of women right now to this day do want children

05:18:27.680 but they can't financially support it and while they do want to have it now because i do know that

05:18:34.080 if i wait until i'm 35 obviously my body there's going to be a lot more risks a lot more complications

05:18:39.760 i have co-workers who are 35 36 who had to do i think what's it called ivy ivf ivf yeah and they've

05:18:46.640 had to like go through a lot for that but it's a lot yeah it's really bad but they i think one of

05:18:52.400 my co-workers lost a toe but going back they wouldn't be able to support their kids unless they were

05:19:00.240 fiscally like prepared because the husband and the wife both work full-time jobs um and then they both

05:19:06.960 come home and take care of the kids as well and they kind of like switch it off too but they

05:19:10.960 wouldn't be able to pay for mortgage for their bills for the kids tuition who has autism so extra

05:19:17.680 lessons on top of that and behavioral lessons everything so i think while it might be possible

05:19:23.760 in the midwestern states to still have that dream of kind of like having kids early and being physically

05:19:32.160 like prepared for it i think it's a lot difficult where we are here and that's why we have the pins we

05:19:36.240 have right now is because we want to stay in california and raise our kids in california

05:19:41.520 okay but what like this is the thing right i didn't say it was going to be easy because we are in the

05:19:47.040 mess we're in and i i totally understand it it's not like andrew and i didn't struggle we did it was

05:19:52.560 hard we had to make a lot of sacrifices we didn't take vacations we never bought new cars they're like

05:19:58.160 i didn't even dream of buying like name brand makeup or anything like that and we did have to move to

05:20:04.320 like a small rural town to make it work and things like that i'm saying if we change the trajectory

05:20:10.000 we could make it so that this is workable again for people and i do understand that right now it's

05:20:14.480 very hard there's one big silver lining though which is that with the internet a lot of people

05:20:19.680 in fact they're saying like 40 of all jobs in north america will be remote uh by the year 2030

05:20:25.840 so there is a good opportunity for a lot of women to work more like part-time-ish hours from home and

05:20:32.000 probably still make some money um there's a lot of things you can do on the side i used to um i used

05:20:37.760 to do firearms instruction on the weekends because i could teach a class and make a thousand bucks

05:20:42.720 so you could you might have to find some solutions you might have to find some workarounds i'm not

05:20:47.280 saying it's like evil for women to work i'm not saying you should never have a job or that you

05:20:52.320 shouldn't be educated i'm saying you can get educated without college that's one there's a lot

05:20:57.920 of ways to get a good paying job without having to go to a university and take on what most women take

05:21:03.520 on which i think is an average of sixty thousand dollars in debt which is another thing that prevents

05:21:08.720 people from wanting to get married and have kids you start your life in a ton of debt and women are now

05:21:13.760 the primary debt holders in this country because of their college debt and so of course they're not

05:21:18.800 going to have as many kids so i'm saying like on an individual level i understand you have to work

05:21:23.600 with the world you were born in i did too i there was plenty of times where i had to work when i was

05:21:28.160 young and i hated it and it's primarily how i started doing my research because i was like how

05:21:33.120 did it get like this how did it get so hard for me to just be a mom and stay home and raise my kids

05:21:39.040 myself and that's the only other thing i really want to say is that we all talk about what women want

05:21:44.240 and what's good for women and whether they should be able to have careers and motherhood at the same

05:21:47.920 time but nobody ever talks about the kids nobody ever talks about the fact that almost every child

05:21:53.760 now is raised in daycare and public school they spend eight to ten hours a day with public school

05:22:00.640 people daycare people they see their mom for like two hours a day and what you what no one ever tells

05:22:06.640 you guys is that 95 of the time you'll ever get to spend with your kids is gone by the time they turn 18

05:22:13.200 and you don't ever get that time back you can't go back and redo it you don't get a second chance

05:22:19.360 so i i do think the situation is super up and i do feel bad for women which is why i wrote the book

05:22:25.520 which is why i have my own youtube channel which is why i have a sub stack now that i do have the time

05:22:30.720 that's what i want to do is help people who do want to be moms help women navigate this like awful

05:22:37.760 this awful world where it's like what do i do i feel like i lose no matter what i do

05:22:42.880 but i have a question do you mind if i sorry to interrupt for that um so i'm going to just give

05:22:48.160 a very specific example so say it's me i'm like 27 ish my income is like a little under a hundred

05:22:55.840 thousand dollars a year i still won't be able to afford mortgage even if i get a partner that matches my

05:23:00.560 income and my like daily monthly expenses aren't too high i have a fully paid off car i don't really

05:23:07.840 shop a lot i don't plan on getting a new car or a new house or anything but if i how would i go about

05:23:17.200 spending or staying or becoming a full-time mom and staying at home if the only daycare i can afford

05:23:25.120 is sending my kids to public school for that certain amount of time while i work or while

05:23:30.000 that's working hours yeah see that's the thing um there isn't going to be like a good happy answer

05:23:35.840 to be honest if we could live in california we would andrew's from there we love like the actual

05:23:41.600 state like the it's beautiful there the weather's great there's lots of great opportunities it's too

05:23:47.600 damn expensive and so we had to pick we had to pick either we can have a family or we can live in

05:23:52.480 california his parents also moved because they couldn't afford it you you're probably going to

05:23:57.760 have to make tough decisions and sacrifices if being a mom is important and raising your kids yourself is

05:24:03.200 important so you might have to change some stuff like i was expected to go to college i always i had

05:24:09.040 scholarships um i was always a smart kid um and everybody thought i was throwing my life away oh it's

05:24:15.280 such a shame she's throwing her life away and i had like everybody nobody supported me my parents

05:24:21.280 didn't support me the people around me didn't support me everybody thought i was making a

05:24:24.720 terrible decision but i would never go back and change it now because i got to have five kids i

05:24:30.080 got to raise my kids we're all really close and now that i'm older i do have a lot of time to build a

05:24:36.320 career if that's what i want to do or to work and do things like that and i'm glad i make the set i

05:24:40.800 made the sacrifices when i was young and energetic and there was time to do that stuff whereas if i had

05:24:47.040 waited i probably wouldn't have had choices at all you know what i mean so it sucks that you guys have

05:24:53.280 this shit sandwich to like do you want the shit sandwich or the shit taco it's like you you don't

05:24:58.640 have any like great choices because this world is not set up for you to have families and careers and

05:25:05.280 everything you can have it all but you can't have it all at once you know life has a lot of phases for

05:25:11.200 women we're not and we're not like men men can just grow up start their career and spend the rest of

05:25:15.920 their life building their career and they do have to be dads and they have to learn how to balance

05:25:19.280 that but it's not the same thing as going through pregnancies and having infants and trying to

05:25:23.840 breastfeed and all that so you're gonna have tough decisions you got to decide what's most important

05:25:30.160 and what you're willing to sacrifice to have that so yeah thank you yeah sure um question so i get what

05:25:38.320 you're i understand what you're saying like i understand your like point of view now i'm getting a

05:25:42.160 better aspect on it um but also do you uh like i would say like how do you feel like you know like

05:25:48.000 you're really lucky to be with like andrew like you guys have been together for 17 years but you know

05:25:53.200 like when people also have children with someone and even maybe even more than one child which one

05:25:58.800 more than one child and they leave the they leave like the man leaves then what that happened that's what

05:26:06.560 happened to me yeah so like what how did you like how did you i think you said that yeah so how did

05:26:11.360 you um do with that like and what did i say like you never met andrew like you know i mean like what

05:26:16.720 would you like how did you get yourself out of a situation like that um well i think i had a few

05:26:22.160 things going for me uh i i had no family support so i had no help from my parents no siblings to help me

05:26:29.840 nothing i was like completely on my own so it was hard it was a struggle it was heartbreaking for me

05:26:35.200 people hear my story and assume that i was like promiscuous that was never the case at all

05:26:39.920 um i had a i had a really tough childhood like a lot of you guys probably had i did not have great

05:26:45.440 parents uh i was in a really messed up situation as a kid and didn't realize that i was making dumb

05:26:51.920 choices either so i picked a guy who took off and that sucks and i was heartbroken but luckily for me

05:26:58.960 i did meet a good guy and i think the only reason that i kind of was saved from the whole single mom

05:27:06.240 situation is because my expectations were realistic i was willing to be very submissive and cooperative

05:27:13.200 with a good virtuous guy when i met andrew he didn't have like a ton of money or anything like

05:27:18.080 that we were both young we were both knuckleheads too but we were well-meaning knuckleheads i guess and

05:27:24.240 he was like look i think you're great i try by the way i also tried to break up with him because

05:27:29.200 i thought he was way too good for me and i was like look my life's a mess please please don't it's

05:27:34.640 gonna be bad for you and he was like look i'm fine with the situation as long as you're not gonna give

05:27:39.600 me trouble as long as you're not gonna like you know fight me on everything if we can do this together

05:27:44.560 then we can do this together and that's what we did and so since then i've had to trust him and

05:27:49.200 i've had to not give him a bunch of shit not fight with him over everything submit when he says look

05:27:55.920 honey this is what we're going to do even if i have reservations even if i'm not so sure i go all

05:28:01.040 right i trust you because you're the leader and i depend on you right it's not easy for women to do

05:28:06.240 that because we're trained that if you do that you're going to get abused everything's going to go

05:28:10.560 horrible you know so women are scared to do that but if you find a good guy that at least has his

05:28:17.440 basics no guy's perfect and they're all going to learn just like i had to learn to be a wife he had

05:28:21.360 to learn to be a husband but if you have a more submissive attitude and you're like i support you

05:28:27.680 and whatever you have to do to support us most good guys are going to rise to the occasion and they're

05:28:33.440 going to take that challenge head-on and it's going to motivate them to make more money to try to be good

05:28:38.560 providers it's only when they feel like they're never appreciated and they constantly have to fight you on

05:28:43.840 everything usually that they take off now you might end up like i did with a guy who has like

05:28:48.880 a substance problem and he takes off and that's that sucks there's no like perfect guarantees in life

05:28:55.040 but generally most people's marriages break up because the woman just isn't going to submit ever

05:29:01.680 and so men are like okay why be the provider why be the leader if you're not if you're going to

05:29:06.800 constantly fight me like i can't do that yeah i think i'm going to actually try that like the whole

05:29:12.960 thing because i'm actually the opposite of a submissive so i'm actually going to take that

05:29:18.080 approach from just moving forward and i'm going to come back and i'm going to tell you how it went

05:29:21.840 so i'm going to yeah it's it's not easy to trust um and you know they're going to make mistakes and

05:29:28.000 they're going to get things wrong they're not going to always be perfect and you just got to be

05:29:31.200 willing to you know roll with the punches with your whatever guy you pick if you pick a husband

05:29:38.080 you got to be in it to win it with him and you got to support him no matter what and if you do that

05:29:42.160 you're going to make it like that's how people did it in the old days the one thing i did have going

05:29:45.760 for me was i had an awesome grandma she's still alive by the way she's 98 years old she's kicking ass

05:29:50.480 she's awesome and luckily i had her and so she had like this more kind of traditional mindset and she

05:29:57.040 would say like rage this is where you're kind of going wrong and this is what you should do different

05:30:01.680 and so it was really helpful to me to have her but yeah try i mean try it if you have a good guy

05:30:06.800 and you're like okay i can see this man has some virtue try not being a a terrible bitch to him

05:30:13.120 try being like cooperative try being supportive and um not fighting him on things and you might be

05:30:19.920 really like it was hard for me okay i'm really opinionated too i have a big mouth i'm sitting here

05:30:25.200 chapping chatting and but i was just like all right i'm look i'm gonna go all in and give this

05:30:32.000 everything i've got and i'm sure glad i did because 17 years later i mean i have a rock solid marriage

05:30:37.440 and i love andrew more every single day so one one quick thing before i have eric jump in uh that

05:30:44.160 was great rachel i'm sure none of it fell on deaf ears whatsoever eric what do you have to say shout

05:30:51.200 out to rachel um i really appreciate everything she said and i told you that earlier but i'm glad

05:30:55.920 you heard it from a woman so now you see what it is like i definitely hope to hear it from a woman

05:30:59.680 exactly see but even that is a part of what she's talking about and one thing this generation don't

05:31:04.560 realize is y'all are part it's like we lived in a movie y'all grew up in the credits and y'all arguing

05:31:12.000 about people who've seen the movie talking about the credits that's not the movie

05:31:15.360 you the reality that you live in was crafted and made for you it's not this organic like you think

05:31:21.520 you were made to think this way you were designed to put and be put in a situation where it's hard

05:31:26.640 for you to find a place because of what happened in the past so when you have people that's from a

05:31:30.800 different generation we're not talking to you like we're better than you we've seen these narratives

05:31:36.080 formulate in our time so by the time you got here it seemed like this is just how life is this is

05:31:41.280 not how life is so i think you should really take advantage of what she told you because it's the

05:31:45.600 truth and a lot of stuff that y'all talk about is from an emotional base but this generation i feel

05:31:50.960 like y'all don't respect information in history like when she brought up those stats about the cia

05:31:55.760 that shit was real and you can't discard that when trying to evaluate the current social dynamic that

05:32:01.920 you're in like take heed what she said because she dropped a lot of jewels on y'all this all she said

05:32:06.400 was facts yeah like a lot of jewels like my main like focus and how i how my mindset is simply

05:32:11.440 because it came from my mother and she is also she she's like old-fashioned but she's also very

05:32:17.600 independent while she grew up like you know like on her own and but you know like she is old-fashioned

05:32:24.880 but to a limit to where she basically taught all of us to like you got this you don't need anyone you

05:32:29.920 got it on your own but you gotta also think too right sometimes parents raise just because you're

05:32:34.560 they're our parents don't mean they know everything and sometimes parents transfer their trauma to you

05:32:39.600 and just because they had a bad route and they made a bad decision that don't mean you because

05:32:44.080 something like sometimes we overcompensate if you go from the in the inner city you grow up with a lot

05:32:48.240 of you don't have a lot of things so then you overdo it with your children think i gotta buy them

05:32:51.760 everything and you create a new monster just because you don't always have to learn through people's

05:32:56.720 mistakes like you can learn from other people's mistakes and i think in your situation but like my mom

05:33:01.360 my mom didn't think like her life was bad you have to move things on guys unfortunately do you have to

05:33:05.600 move things on but uh we have a couple chats coming through here one sec guys and we do need to actually

05:33:11.600 before we get to the chats uh we were going around the table on do you think you'll be better looking

05:33:16.320 in 10 years time do we just do we do you i don't know if we asked you that question i don't think so

05:33:23.440 okay so the question was is related to the looks rating thing do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years

05:33:29.120 time i hope so okay uh and you are 18 so you do you think you'll be better looking at 28 i hope so

05:33:37.520 okay you yes you hope so but do you think so yeah okay how about 20 years time at 38

05:33:45.920 yeah okay 30 years time at 48 oh my goodness yeah i took some milk uh 40 years time at 58

05:33:53.280 i just think beauty is timeless as long as you can you tilt your mic down a little bit

05:33:59.520 yeah beauty is timeless go ahead yeah i don't think i'm ever gonna think um not attractive i think

05:34:05.440 loving yourself is really important right but you okay so i'm not gonna think i'm unattractive

05:34:12.640 uh 50 years time at 68 68 i don't know i don't think so okay you're 25 better looking in 10 years

05:34:22.800 time at 35 yes better looking in 20 years time at 45 like compared to 25 yeah no how about compared to 35

05:34:32.320 yes because when i'm 35 i feel like i'm i'll be a lot more secure in myself i would be a lot more mature

05:34:39.600 looking graceful um i mean uh at 45 45 no i don't think i would look better than i do when i'm 25

05:34:47.680 okay what about when you're 35 though yeah like no 45 to 35 oh would i look better when i'm 45 compared

05:34:55.520 to no okay i see all right so but 35 more so than 25 and then 35 more than 25 but not how about uh 25 now

05:35:03.520 versus 18. i think i'm better now than when i was 18. you're 20 better looking in 10 years time at 30.

05:35:09.760 uh yes better looking in 20 years time at 40.

05:35:15.520 no okay you're 23 better looking in 10 years time at 33. no all right you're 27 better looking in 10

05:35:21.760 years time at 37. yes better looking in 20 years time at 47. no uh and then you're 27 were you better

05:35:27.760 looking at 18. no better looking now okay you're 24 better looking in 10 years time at 34. no i think

05:35:34.960 i'm in my prime now okay all right uh we do have before we get into the chats we do have some images

05:35:41.760 we've we've aged my team has advanced you in age we'll see you tell me which one you prefer which one

05:35:50.240 you think is more good looking all right pull it up i'm scared oh i look so cute can you make them uh

05:35:57.600 one bigger i guess yeah that's good uh and this will be for all of them uh which uh do you look

05:36:04.160 better on the left or the right into the mic how rude is this it's not rude it's that no it's not

05:36:10.480 rude oh real real i'll start putting sunscreen on she looks like a team no honestly like i'm gonna age

05:36:15.840 good so wait better looking better looking left or right oh definitely right there on the right

05:36:22.320 uh no that's my left that's yeah so better looking on the left or the right right here this way that

05:36:29.040 one right there not that one okay just left left or right i said you said yes left but you said right

05:36:35.920 there who's on second old old you or young you i i said it i said okay that works yeah yeah how about

05:36:42.880 we'll do this young you or old you next okay what y'all think um obviously i think right now

05:36:52.080 you should get that mole checked out though on what stop no just when in it looks a little

05:36:57.680 cancerous on the oh my god on the old on the ai version it doesn't look cancerous oh my god

05:37:04.960 don't get my humor okay podcast and i got diagnosed yes you we are going to have to amputate um okay

05:37:11.360 uh which one which one do you look better younger or older i think younger right now but older is

05:37:17.840 cute yeah all right next damn i look like vera wing oh my god you look good though uh which one

05:37:30.080 obviously i look better young oh okay next compared to the old one oh wait you look good you look so

05:37:37.040 pretty wait everyone's looking so good i like your ulti pictures yeah you know what wait can you send

05:37:42.960 us the ulti pictures yeah sure sure oh yeah chicks and milf which one very young okay next oh

05:37:50.720 oh girl you look good wait i don't see a difference low key what yeah no you look really young now

05:37:59.840 you look really good geez wait damien on this in the source of tab scroll down

05:38:06.560 can you hit right corner you got lipstick on too no no no no show it double click on the right corner

05:38:11.280 uh put change it to uh four uh one three one what the hell wait what put it to four again

05:38:32.160 oh okay never mind put it back to two i don't know what's going on there all right which one

05:38:36.320 i'm a younger okay next sorry guys oh which one into the mic into the mic i'm not gonna lie i kind

05:38:45.200 of like the way you look older no yeah you look so wise yeah nice cute necklace too like an upgrade

05:38:53.200 you should go buy that one looks really good oh god oh you look good yeah like j-lo

05:38:59.840 yeah you look good okay all right right next what the i think y'all playing with me man

05:39:10.000 y'all look like me bro i know my father didn't i gotta my father my phone i don't look like that

05:39:14.960 don't look like me at all that's fucked up next that's carl winslow's right next huh next batch

05:39:21.280 okay we got another bat we got double batches whoever did this batch and i'm not sure who it is

05:39:25.520 can you just make sure to do like before after just so it makes more sense go ahead pull it up

05:39:30.240 we'll go through it quick

05:39:35.120 damn oh my god i'm scared y'all did her dirt

05:39:39.040 she okay next do you get me the local karen at the walmart

05:39:44.400 yeah did i get a good pic what is this supposed to be damn that's crazy next oh

05:39:51.040 oh my god damn that's scary we should have smelled more i love the burrito

05:40:00.720 you still look good

05:40:03.600 uh by the way all these look way more accurate for aging by the way yeah they're a bit better

05:40:09.920 the other one like ai's it too much next

05:40:12.400 wow oh it's not bad i look like my grandma which i like oh i know the old ones like me see my

05:40:20.720 oh okay what she looks good next i don't like this man that don't look nothing like me

05:40:26.400 that's not bad i don't know who that is that's not bad i don't know like me though that looks

05:40:30.880 like uh it looks good floyd mayweather his uncle his uncle don't look like no just keep up

05:40:38.560 the style next i'm not gonna dress like that a day no look good oh make it smaller smaller

05:40:48.240 the fuck next of course of course of course yeah that's definitely accurate very accurate thank you

05:40:57.440 guys is that it yeah all right cool all right we're gonna get a little let a couple chats come

05:41:01.520 in here uh who wants to who wants to read can you see the screen no who can see the screen and read

05:41:07.760 can you make it bigger can you do it all right i'll have you do it go ahead ladies

05:41:12.640 at what age does dating start to feel less exciting especially when appearance is no longer the main

05:41:17.920 focus hashtag terry hatcher love does dating start to feel less exciting is terry hatcher dating uh

05:41:26.240 anybody want to take a crack at this quick answers i think it stops being exciting when like

05:41:33.360 when you just try when you've been doing it for too so long like they think it gets annoying at some

05:41:40.240 point probably by the time people are 21 they're burned out 21 21 that's early no because then that's

05:41:48.240 when you can like go out to like a nice restaurant and get drinks and like you know be all cute like

05:41:52.400 fine 23 it's all downhill 23 nobody likes you when you're 23 yeah i think 33 early 30s when you start

05:41:59.680 get tired of it okay we have another one three coming in brian i'm black pill od'ing are all the

05:42:10.160 women all the women this insufferable or are you just really good at finding these hags question mark

05:42:16.320 chair one stop interrupting or i'll take away your twin keys don't make me count to 304

05:42:23.920 uh mr based man thank you for the message really appreciate it also techno thank you for the message

05:42:29.360 w's in the chat chat for techno trooper and mr based man i do appreciate it uh started to hear about the

05:42:37.360 uh black pilling i guess uh it is what it is thank you man joe murphy thank you rachel

05:42:44.400 you're cooking and roasting keep up the work educating women on feminism if you and your

05:42:51.200 husband steal candies steal i think he meant steal candies from babies we have russian chocolates for

05:42:58.000 you bravo i think this is because you said it looked like andrew steals candy from from babies he

05:43:04.640 looks like okay uh there's been multiple times i'm not gonna lie where my daughter's had a candy bar

05:43:09.360 and i've gone over and just ripped a piece of it off for myself i've done i do that and i enjoy

05:43:14.240 it i enjoy it i think it's funny you know she gets a little upset about it and that's what makes

05:43:18.640 it just a little bit funnier i see i see uh joe murphy thank you so much for the uh thank you

05:43:24.400 for the chat man w's in the chat for joe murphy and got one more an accounting skill will be replaced

05:43:32.400 with ai automation malibu san fran and new york are the most expensive areas in the u.s

05:43:40.000 join the fb leaving california call me for here group they will welcome you to the u.s yo joe murphy

05:43:48.480 thank you so much for the message man i do really appreciate it yeah call me fornia it's uh it's rough

05:43:52.960 out here uh but um weather's nice and we're trying to get andrew back to california it's a work in

05:44:00.240 progress we'll we'll see what we can do bada bing bada boom okay wrongful rage if you want to read this

05:44:06.880 one as a minimalist this is a sad world chair one lying for frank for fame chair five dominating boys

05:44:15.360 foolish women these days are bleak uh wrongful rage i do appreciate the soup chat really uh

05:44:22.320 men need to be more open-minded to getting pegged exactly right okay like it's just the thing i want

05:44:29.600 to try doesn't mean i'm into it how am i how am i supposed to know if i'm into it if i never tried it

05:44:34.400 well how would you want to try that i don't know gotta try everything once who suggested that

05:44:40.400 everything that's suggested to y'all you don't have you know what you have to do right when i see

05:44:43.440 dominate everyone's like oh we want to peg a dude i'm like dude no but if it's on the table i'm not

05:44:48.720 going to say no uh so i don't think the type of guy you want will do that no i would never ask let me

05:44:54.880 peg you no but if he did ask like oh you're down he asked you yes run away yeah if he's if he's down

05:45:00.800 run away you probably i'll run i wait after i try it you'll try it but then you'll be so but you're

05:45:05.600 not gonna be with him you'll be so turned off by it that i don't know it's just over you i don't

05:45:10.480 think you would want to date a guy who would be into the father your children bent over for you

05:45:15.360 like you never like but i had i like yeah like you put like people like your thumb in guys's buttholes

05:45:20.000 like yo y'all yeah i hear like a lot of girls yes i was about to say what guys are pretty i've

05:45:26.800 never done that but i've heard stuff but they just hide it dudes that women do not take as husbands

05:45:31.840 y'all talking about weird old dudes who no one takes seriously any weirdo will let you do it

05:45:36.320 real men who take care of families ain't letting you do that my friend like she's literally engaged

05:45:41.280 a guy like and he's just they've been together for they've been together since like for their

05:45:45.040 freshman year high school he's passive who here has done butt stuff to a dude no but i've been

05:45:51.360 asked wait you did you raise your hand no sorry oh i thought that was a hand raise that was definitely

05:45:54.880 a hand raise you've been asked you didn't do it though no what's what in the name of degeneracy

05:46:00.400 is going on here i don't know man she's talking about pegging dudes i want to see if the other

05:46:04.560 women here she's saying she's saying she no she's saying all these chicks have are putting their

05:46:10.800 thumbs up dude's butts yes i'm just wondering if the girls have actually done that

05:46:14.160 i have never done it like i have no i haven't even been asked to do it but what the okay

05:46:19.520 that's crazy man i don't think i would what i don't think i would ever do that finger thing but

05:46:24.960 i have heard people let's pull up twitch guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever yeah twitch.tv

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05:46:41.360 have one available appreciate it guys okay uh feminism that came up earlier before i do want to

05:46:46.960 get a i really don't get i don't understand feminism like feminism neither i don't know about

05:46:52.080 feminism feminism either okay going around the table do you consider yourself a feminist yeah

05:46:59.440 yep no like moderate moderate feminist okay i'm the same i don't really you don't acknowledge it

05:47:06.640 i don't acknowledge it you don't you what i don't acknowledge or so you're not a feminist

05:47:15.760 i don't know you don't i don't know andrew what's the definition of feminism just to help things out

05:47:22.720 it's in a movement a movement towards egalitarianism equality if you don't know what that means so a

05:47:27.440 movement towards equality by dismantling systems which are patriarchal or systems run by men

05:47:35.440 so they want to be equal as men people that women believe that one okay and that the way to do

05:47:41.120 that is because men are in charge of the various systems of society that they need to dismantle men

05:47:47.120 being in charge of those systems so that they can also be in charge of those systems that would be

05:47:52.080 feminism basically women that want to be men which to me is not even feminine at all so i don't know

05:47:56.800 what they call this okay are you feminist no yes no eric of course no all right um

05:48:08.560 so yes yes yes i'm moderate moderate moderate yeah yes yes um

05:48:16.480 question for all of you relating this back to the i think most of you i don't know maybe some of

05:48:21.200 of you differed here when it came to paying for the first dates you said you want a guy to pay for

05:48:24.800 the first date do you want a guy to pay for the first date um no no i said yes yes yes and yes

05:48:32.320 question how do you reconcile your feminism with wanting men to pay for the first date

05:48:39.440 well i don't know dude i feel like you ask me this every time and i always say i don't know

05:48:44.320 yeah wasting time with me what about you well if he asked first which i do like guys who take

05:48:50.880 initiative i would expect him to pay for the first date but again like i said in future cases

05:48:56.560 i wouldn't mind paying it too do you ever ask guys out on dates not on dates but i'm like oh do you

05:49:03.040 want to go get food and then well i'm talking first dates not first dates you've been dating a

05:49:06.880 guy for three months and most people wouldn't raise an eyebrow at you asking your boyfriend

05:49:11.120 friend to go get food no first dates i don't ask no okay i mean i'm pretty moderate i okay like a

05:49:18.080 more i hate like the word traditional man why do you hate that i don't know it just sounds very

05:49:23.440 sounds what cliches cliche unattractive like low-key sexist i don't know how so

05:49:29.760 it's just i hate this word too when i'm using it it just the word gives me the ache

05:49:34.640 but i do believe in traditional dating values and i can be i don't know i'm very moderate in this take

05:49:45.440 so i can't give you like an exact here tell me tell me if this is a fair representation of your

05:49:50.400 position you said you're moderate feminist right so you like all the ways in which feminism has given

05:49:57.840 women benefits but you also still like all the ways that traditional treatment benefits you as a

05:50:05.680 woman is that fair yes but i feel like women should have equal rights in terms of like voting i feel

05:50:16.320 like they should be paid equally um but i also believe in you know if you want a quote unquote

05:50:25.280 stereotypical traditional man you should be yourself a classier traditional woman so it

05:50:30.160 depends on like what we're talking about are we talking about like getting a job are we talking

05:50:34.560 about dating so i'm very like moderate okay sorry what was the question again i'll skip um traditional

05:50:43.440 how do you reconcile the feminism with the whole men should pay thing i think we're talking really black

05:50:48.960 and white here um first is with the definition that andrew gave i do agree with like a like moving

05:50:57.760 society towards more egalitarian but that last part of the definition where like women should be in

05:51:03.040 those places i don't agree with that i don't think we should replace men well we should have more space

05:51:09.760 yeah but so uh i'm like so to speak here um so for example a lot of i'm gonna just say for the

05:51:18.000 industry i'm in a lot of our competitors their cfos are mostly male but then in my company itself

05:51:26.080 we have one our our cfo is female and a lot of people in management are female so and i really

05:51:33.520 appreciate that because it made me more willing to kind of push myself in my career and everything

05:51:39.280 so yeah but okay so when it comes to the feminism thing though we can have a conversation

05:51:44.720 about like well there's like kind of the law the laws and equal rights and stuff but i'm sure you

05:51:50.800 would all agree that when it comes to feminism a component of feminism wasn't just necessarily

05:51:56.400 about securing equal rights for women it was about like it was about uh kind of social roles too

05:52:05.040 like oh women can do this and do that and it didn't really necessarily have to do about

05:52:10.320 uh rights for example like oh women can go be boss babes and join the workforce well i mean that

05:52:19.680 sort of has to do with like access to being able to work but like it also had to do with like societal

05:52:25.600 views right why don't you also reject the societal views on men that they i mean it's a very patriarchal

05:52:33.920 sexist expectation for you to say men should pay for first dates like would you agree that

05:52:40.400 if men were to say women should cook and clean would that be a sexist statement no that's not sexist

05:52:46.800 i don't think so if they if they're themselves are traditional man who will provide then no i don't

05:52:52.480 think that's sexist okay would you say that's sexist i think if you put it with a blanket term of

05:52:59.040 all women should cook and clean yes if it's like for for example somebody who wants to say a home

05:53:03.920 is traditional it's what she wants i'm not going to say anything about it it's not my life it's her

05:53:08.960 life it's what she wants i just think there should be an option if she wants to pursue everything on

05:53:14.800 her own have her own life have her own financials everything wants to become a cfo that she can do that

05:53:19.920 and has that option but if she doesn't that's okay you think it goes both ways like if a man wants to

05:53:24.880 take care of the house or not yeah okay yeah and i feel i got roasted when i said this the first time

05:53:30.400 i came on here when they were like oh like what's your definition of feminism and i was like to let

05:53:35.600 a woman do whatever the hell she wants like it doesn't matter if she wants to be a trad wife if she

05:53:40.720 wants to be a stay-at-home mom if she wants to be traditional if she wants to be whatever the boss babe

05:53:46.960 you have those choices and that's what matters and it's important that we have those choices and we

05:53:52.400 don't judge others you know okay that's about equity too i keep hearing that word boss babe what

05:53:58.320 does that mean they're like i don't know i think it comes from a meme or something where it's like oh

05:54:06.000 hashtag boss babe or something like that at the end of the day i just feel like you should date someone

05:54:10.720 who shares the same values as you that's the most important thing if you want to do 50 50 as a man

05:54:15.840 date a woman who's okay with doing 50 50 don't pursue women who are this is hypothetical but like

05:54:22.000 getting paid in full going you know going to nobu every weekend you can't expect that type of woman

05:54:27.520 if you want to go 50 50. so it's just dating within you know your values your morals your expectations

05:54:33.600 sure can i ask something yeah do you think that that like um like what you just said do you think

05:54:39.200 that benefits our society or do you think it makes it worse benefits the society like like the way

05:54:45.280 like that mindset that you have to let women do whatever they want yeah do you like genuinely do you

05:54:49.680 you think it's beneficial to our society yeah yeah definitely

05:54:56.240 how because you're it's free will you can do whatever you want yeah i could just come around

05:55:01.360 smack the shit out of people people that make the world better place if you want but that's not

05:55:06.560 is that what she means though just to be fair is that like what you mean what do you mean like to

05:55:11.040 have yeah when you say people can do whatever they want i don't think you mean like no that's not

05:55:15.200 what i'm saying no that's not what i said following your dreams like yeah like you can do whatever you

05:55:21.040 want as in like if you want to be a trad wife you can be a trad wife if you want to stay home

05:55:25.600 to the kids if you want to go and be a boss babe go fulfill whatever you want to do we're going to get

05:55:30.240 into the questionnaire here we're going to try to get through it as quick as possible so we won't

05:55:33.760 linger too long oops didn't mean to do that my bad on any one topic but uh going around the table

05:55:40.000 what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husbands um

05:55:48.320 you put an infinity sign here i don't know what that means yeah i don't know i don't even know what

05:55:52.480 my answer is either i don't know i don't know i'm not thinking about that stuff i don't know

05:55:59.360 well i mean if you put infinity then infinity uh what about i mean you don't have any you six

05:56:05.920 figures what do you think yeah yeah i want to be comfortable i want to live a comfortable life

05:56:10.720 i want to take i want to go to be stay at home uh i don't know dude all i know is that i want to go

05:56:19.280 for winter break i want to go to aspen or to or to what's it called switzerland for for winter and

05:56:26.640 then and then in the spring i want to go to italy and so so what sacrifice are you making i want to go

05:56:32.960 to new york so what so if you got a man because obviously you want a man that's making a lot of

05:56:36.480 money what what sacrifice are you making for that kind of man like what compromise are you making

05:56:43.360 being a good partner by being what going on the abs has been to spend his money on trips like how

05:56:48.960 did that make you a good part yeah i'm he has a companion you know he loves me yeah but you get

05:56:54.560 that too love you for what are you doing is going to spend his money going on trips like

05:56:57.600 what do you bring well i don't know that's for him to answer he fell for me i don't know i don't

05:57:03.520 know what he saw in me i don't know that's for that man to answer you don't know the answer yeah i

05:57:08.960 don't know the answer uh okay unless you guys have more back and forth i mean if you don't know the

05:57:15.040 answer and i don't see how you can ask for that because if you ask for something you should know why

05:57:17.840 you deserve that and it sound like you don't really know someone here said something really good on

05:57:21.520 that it's like your type you need to know what your type his type is was that what your type is

05:57:31.200 because because a lot of people just think about what i want but you also in order to get what you

05:57:37.200 want you got to think well what does the person that i want what do they want and if you're not it

05:57:42.320 you're not going to get it you know so yeah you think you're the type of the dudes who make like

05:57:46.240 six hundred thousand or four hundred thousand or better i don't know maybe somebody out there

05:57:51.760 honestly who knows yeah honestly you don't know you don't know all right uh what about you

05:58:00.320 i'm not really sure yet you said enough to provide for our family how much is that i'm not

05:58:04.240 do you want to stay home or do you want to work if it i don't mind working but i also would

05:58:08.640 want to be there for my kids how many kids do you want maybe like two to four two to four okay

05:58:13.840 michelle more the merrier i don't really have a number especially because living here is just

05:58:19.520 so expensive how much do you make if you don't mind me asking oh i would not want to answer six

05:58:23.520 figures is that fair like the guy no do you make six figures no but a little will you make it how

05:58:30.160 about in five years will you make yes i would okay um would you like a guy to in five years time make

05:58:35.440 six figures that you're dating yes okay the more the merrier okay in this economy it's a rough economy

05:58:41.840 carissa what about you just enough to provide for the family and i okay how many kids do you want

05:58:47.840 uh like three or four all right darkavia i would say about 150 okay um at least how much i'm making

05:58:59.760 if he makes less then i just want him to be pursuing something he's passionate about sure um i think i put

05:59:06.640 like a hundred thousand but as long as we have enough money to provide for our family okay and

05:59:12.400 then we kind of touched on this for some of you but then uh brian i do have to dip about sure an

05:59:17.440 hour earlier than normal tonight i uh i got a place you got to be on in the morning but i got a rage set

05:59:22.320 up heading your way and hopefully this time it'll work before before you leave do you have like an

05:59:27.120 extra 10 minutes so you can spare yeah yeah 10 minutes yeah anahi did i say right no should i just

05:59:35.200 say bangs no i can't pronounce your name anai i know what i want a woman anahi anahi yes anahi here

05:59:43.760 is a feminist and she wanted to have a back and forth with you before you he's gonna look he's only

05:59:51.760 gonna be 11 and you want to talk about women's issues right now at 11 o'clock that's exactly what

05:59:56.640 i want to do uh i mean it's two o'clock for me yeah andrew's game so andrew needs to go to sleep

06:00:02.480 oh you can't don't weasel your way out of this one he needs to wake up to tomorrow and take to

06:00:06.960 school it's monday he's only gonna talk for you guys will only have an exchange for five ten minutes

06:00:11.360 then he's gonna leave in my home school oh see then he's he has to be the whole principal so

06:00:16.800 one of the one of the busy day well to to just get to the point here uh one of the back and forth

06:00:23.360 fourths we've had is uh we had disagreements on female oppression women's oppression

06:00:29.760 what all right is your position the same i don't even remember what i said into the mic

06:00:37.840 i don't even remember what i said two years ago yeah you said essentially um you said that women are

06:00:44.080 oppressed yeah yes in although you changed it to yeah you're like 50 50 on it now you you wrote

06:00:52.000 both yes and no whatever i don't know i'm tired in any case you said women are oppressed i asked you

06:00:56.720 how and you didn't really would you care to you've had two years to figure it out do you want to provide

06:01:03.280 well i honestly yeah i think there's a lot of shit that has happened that has made women oppressed

06:01:11.200 like we didn't even we couldn't even have a bank account what can i talk can i speak it's when it

06:01:17.600 is women we haven't it is women i dude i can't okay go ahead go ahead it's okay if you keep talking

06:01:23.760 this isn't my first language and i'm from california i don't know it doesn't it doesn't seem like you

06:01:30.320 have any trouble with the plural version of other words just that it's a california accent dude i don't

06:01:36.800 know uh so california i'm going to tell you right now the nobody that i know in california

06:01:42.400 says woman instead of women unless they're women in the localized santa barbara area that's the only

06:01:49.120 time i hear this it's it's fucked up okay dude so okay back to this back to this so uh how are women

06:01:56.560 oppressed um well we couldn't even have freaking bank accounts until like what 50 years ago or something

06:02:05.520 we're literally tied into marriage before before i have andrew jump in on the what else bank accounts

06:02:10.800 um bank accounts um we couldn't vote uh literally men were freaking marrying children um impregnating

06:02:21.920 15 year olds um i don't know there's a lot of crap dude i can't but you didn't live through none of

06:02:27.360 that so how are they oppressing your town yeah i don't know i don't know it sounds that all that sounds

06:02:31.840 like basically male oppression to me so we male oppression yeah well it sounds like male oppression

06:02:37.760 so yeah you couldn't have bank accounts but you couldn't have debt there's no debt so women weren't

06:02:42.240 responsible for any form of debt so only their husbands took their debt on so if you went to a

06:02:47.360 department store for instance and you ran up all of the your husband's credit on the credit cards

06:02:52.640 he was responsible for the debt and that was incurred even if you were divorced for instance and if you

06:02:59.200 went into a marriage and you had your own money right and you had your own land and things like

06:03:03.440 this the husband was not entitled to any of that but you were entitled to his oh yeah yeah that's that

06:03:08.640 is true that there's an extension where women didn't uh weren't allowed to have bank accounts but it's

06:03:13.520 because they weren't allowed to go into debt they didn't allow women to go into debt they didn't

06:03:18.880 think that debtors prison which was the thing that men had to deal with and not women uh they didn't

06:03:23.440 think that it was appropriate to throw women in jail so instead they incurred all the debt on the

06:03:28.000 husband yeah that was definitely male oppression i agree with that and then women were seen as

06:03:32.320 property and then we didn't have yeah but all these women can't defend property so because women can't

06:03:38.320 defend property they have to rely on men to defend property that's why they that's why the thought

06:03:42.400 process was not to give women property but women often did own properties willed down from their

06:03:48.800 parents so the thing is is that when you were when you entered into matrimony with a man that is true

06:03:54.000 that if he accrued property he was responsible for its maintenance and any of the debt that was

06:03:58.720 incurred with the property and not the woman but the woman could hold property as a namesake from her

06:04:05.520 own family and guess what she also could rack up enormous amounts of debt could never be applied

06:04:11.360 to debtor's prison she could never go to debtor's prison only the men could but isn't all these laws

06:04:17.120 are like the rules created by men so didn't they just put that on themselves yeah like yeah so the

06:04:23.360 didn't men say women should stay home so wait so the thing is is that men took care of you so well

06:04:30.560 and made sure that you had zero responsibility in society and all the entitlement man bad makes sense

06:04:36.560 to me so men was we had no way out like women's only what what is it like what is it that you want

06:04:44.160 like not every it was a bad deal to be back then it was enormous amounts of debt on someone else's

06:04:50.400 account like what's so terrible about that but back then it's like all that was like expected of

06:04:56.640 woman was get married and pop out babies and it's like not everybody wants to be a freaking birthing

06:05:03.600 machine oh a birthing machine yeah yeah i mean you have some greater duty than to have kids i'm guessing

06:05:11.360 you're going to go on and cure cancer or perhaps you're i mean what do you what do you think bangs

06:05:15.920 in 20 years your biggest accomplishment in this world will be absent motherhood i just just out of

06:05:21.600 blanket curiosity what do you think it'll be uh world dominance yeah no i mean i want to take over

06:05:28.320 the world here's what your biggest accomplishment will be you don't know it you don't know it right

06:05:34.080 now you'll be a cog in a wheel and you'll be a nine to five or a cog in a wheel there will be no

06:05:39.200 great accomplishment that comes from bangs other than a legacy you could leave a legacy behind

06:05:44.880 okay such a legacy requires you having children you don't know it yet but you're going to be polishing

06:05:51.680 my shoes in the near future yeah you are you are i'm gonna take over the world and you are gonna be

06:05:59.840 my first the first person i kept no actually you know what i'll make a deal i have a better idea for

06:06:07.360 you on a treadmill no you're gonna be the little i'm gonna make you wear the little joker costume

06:06:12.640 and then i'm gonna call you over and then you're gonna have to do little dances for me and skits

06:06:16.720 well you got about 80 pounds left before your harley quinn you're crazy dude if we can get back

06:06:22.560 into the topic that would be fantastic i'm just i'm just curious what you actually think your biggest

06:06:27.840 accomplishment in this world is going to be absent children what do you think it's actually going to be

06:06:32.960 i already told you world dominance i don't know what no okay got it troll the troll dominance you

06:06:38.000 can't even do troll dominance correctly what do you want me to do it's good dude i can't take you

06:06:42.400 seriously like you're just such an angry guy it's like everything is everything is anger because

06:06:47.840 you're just angry me asking you pointed questions and you being completely unable to answer them and

06:06:53.360 i don't know what i want to do i want to accomplish a lot of things i'm i want to accomplish a lot of

06:06:58.880 things i'm going back to school i just yeah what are you going what do you think you're actually

06:07:02.640 going to accomplish i don't know dude i don't know things have so many things change it like

06:07:09.520 my expectations okay what is your goal to accomplish what what is your goal then to accomplish what

06:07:15.680 i don't know i want to i want to be proud of myself i want to be proud of myself i want to make

06:07:20.560 the people around me proud so no what's wrong with that what you want to accomplish i can't tell me what

06:07:26.560 you because i don't know dude and yet for some reason those baby making machines those women who

06:07:32.720 create babies which is the highest and most valuable virtue in society the thing in which men and women

06:07:37.840 both will give their lives for that is just a little too much out of your vein right that is female

06:07:43.520 oppression it's like no that's fee that's true female liberation is the ability for you to birth

06:07:48.480 children especially in your 20s and be able to stay at home and take care of them that's actually

06:07:53.200 women's liberation true women's liberation actual oppression is for you to say that a woman who does

06:07:59.760 that is a birthing machines disgusting it's disgusting i never said woman who you did say

06:08:06.080 birthing ice yeah but i didn't say it in that context and i will repeat myself on the context that

06:08:10.560 i did say i said that back then all that was expected of woman was to pop out kids and basically

06:08:16.560 be a birthing machine yeah what higher virtue could they have happened that what yeah you see that's

06:08:22.160 exactly what i'm saying all that was all that was expected that was all that was expected because

06:08:27.520 i don't know because they had limitations they had limitations they had no they had they didn't

06:08:33.840 even have a chance they didn't even have a chance to a chance to do what to succeed on their own

06:08:39.920 without a man and without having a family and now you're mad because women finally have the chance

06:08:45.680 to survive without men but they still don't know they didn't have a chance they didn't have a chance

06:08:51.040 how a chance to what to succeed to succeed at wait they were like they couldn't they just not work

06:08:55.760 back then like they were not exactly like what is he talking about but that's that was created by

06:08:59.840 men exactly that's what i'm trying to say no listen you got it all wrong women women were the ones

06:09:06.800 who pushed for suffrage not men men didn't push for women's suffrage women went berserko they wanted

06:09:12.800 suffrage they wanted the right to vote they wanted the right to be in the political experience the and

06:09:16.560 the women who were against it they said don't do this okay and by the way they overwhelmingly

06:09:22.960 women would actually vote away their their right to vote they did that's what they did everywhere it

06:09:27.440 was put on the docket for women to actually have the right to vote and they were able to vote on it

06:09:31.600 they voted it down that's why they had to make it a decision at the federal level so the thing is

06:09:36.080 it's like no the anti-suffragettes the people who were against women voting the women themselves

06:09:41.440 said we have the moral high ground right now we're too well taken care of we don't want to go fight

06:09:46.160 in wars we don't want to get blown to pieces we don't want to have to have the responsibility of

06:09:49.840 voting to send men to war when in wars we will never be able to fight or have to fight they didn't

06:09:55.440 want the responsibility of that and they shouldn't have to have it they have the best place in society

06:10:01.280 ever which is none of the responsibility and all the perks now you have all the responsibility

06:10:06.080 right and your mental health not doing so great i wish we can not doing so great drug levels not

06:10:11.440 doing so great promiscuous levels not doing so great child out of wedlock not doing so great

06:10:15.760 you really yourselves on that one i gotta tell you i mean i agree but you know what you can have a

06:10:20.720 credit card now isn't that based isn't that great thank god you could have a credit card bags you

06:10:26.800 know and we wouldn't want to stop you from succeeding at that thing you don't know what you want

06:10:30.560 other than having kids i would never want to stop you from doing whatever that thing is that you

06:10:35.040 don't know period thank you also i mean to also on the like the credit card thing and the bank thing

06:10:41.440 there actually wasn't a law precluding women from having these things these were like at the individual

06:10:46.480 bank level uh determinations uh which still i mean you you can still certainly make an argument that

06:10:53.040 that's like on a corporate level that is still discriminatory towards women but there was no

06:10:58.000 law actually preventing them and actually women did have bank accounts

06:11:03.440 yeah well and not only that but here's the other thing to think about which is that right now if

06:11:07.680 i could if i could wave wand i'd make it so that nobody had credit cards not just women

06:11:12.160 that the debt cycle has been awful for everybody in the united states and that women were exempt

06:11:17.520 from that and it's crushing it's crushing on men and women's souls to have such a burden put on

06:11:22.880 them but at least before men were taking that responsibility women didn't have to deal with

06:11:27.920 it and now the the the major complaint for oppression in history is that oh gee we didn't put the crushing

06:11:34.720 weight of debt on your shoulders it's like what a bunch of terrible bastards those men were

06:11:38.800 no you got anything no well with that bangs it was nice talking to you actually and i hope you have a

06:11:53.760 good evening um truly i just match energy right so um it's that old golem thing right if they're nice

06:12:00.880 to us we're nice to them but anyway i appreciate it very much appreciated talking to everybody on the

06:12:06.000 panel and i hope all of you have wonderful nights bye andrew send over a rate andrew hope you have

06:12:10.720 a good night man we'll see you on tuesday thank you thank you good night andrew and uh we're gonna

06:12:15.600 try to get through this questionnaire as quick as possible uh i'm gonna read this chat here from joe

06:12:21.920 murphy asking feminists to define feminism is like asking a marxist who doesn't know the definition of

06:12:28.240 definition of socialism collectivism or totalitarianism for simplicity what is first second

06:12:35.920 third fourth wave feminism uh joe murphy thank you for the uh super chat what is anybody want to take

06:12:42.000 a crack at the waves no idea i just know that one of them it had to do with like voting but i'm not

06:12:51.520 gonna lie i don't know yeah what happened in the different waves yeah there's a lot of ways i just

06:12:57.440 don't care i feel like there's also techno trooper donated two hundred dollars ladies many 100k plus

06:13:05.280 jobs demand that a man be more committed to his work than to his spouse what type of job would you

06:13:11.120 suggest for him so he has enough time for you i would say probably like and say something like i don't

06:13:23.120 know like like his own company so he can work from home you know i mean like people that self-employed

06:13:27.520 anybody else a lot of jobs in tech are remote i know this because i'm a recruiter um also like

06:13:34.240 software engineers they a lot of them work from home obviously they're busy but they'll at least be at

06:13:40.640 home have a little bit more flexibility than going in the office anybody else okay we have uh

06:13:46.880 uh ilk ilkin ali shout out to the one and only illesophical amazing to see him on the whatever

06:13:54.720 podcast god remain a guest feminism means women can do what's best for themselves and what they want

06:14:00.480 but men have to do what's right and best for society if women were truly treated equal to men

06:14:06.560 they'd hate life yo thank you for the big 200 super chat man w's in the chat for for uh women already

06:14:15.280 hate life how do you say his name ill can ill con ill con yo dude guys w's in the chat for the big

06:14:22.080 or w's in yeah w's in the chat for the big super chat thank you so much man really appreciate it

06:14:27.200 yeah it's great to have uh eric here illa how do you say it when you do the intro the illa the illest

06:14:33.040 the element what when you do your intro you're like yo it's illa it's eric aka illa when my page is

06:14:41.760 called my my instagram handle is illa sophical my youtube channel is illa sophical radio oh i

06:14:46.720 thought there was more to the intro no no my name now it's just you don't do more no oh okay i could

06:14:52.880 have sworn there was a anybody you know yeah it's not it seemed longer it seemed a little bit longer

06:14:57.360 i just said it's your man eric aka illa aka illa sophical radio that's the name there was there

06:15:02.160 was another aka no there was at least three aks well okay i could be wrong we got to play back but uh

06:15:08.560 uh ill con thank you so much man do really appreciate it okay let's get into this get

06:15:13.120 through the questionnaire as quick as possible so uh how tall are you and what's both the minimum and

06:15:18.080 ideal height of a man you would date go ahead your height and then minimum height for a guy uh five

06:15:23.920 two um minimum height i don't know any i guess six and above you said six foot seven here okay but

06:15:32.560 she came back to her let her stay down let her stay she want to come back

06:15:38.960 yes uh what about you um i'm five three and i would like at least five seven because yeah you said

06:15:45.760 you said five ten oh well five ten so i'm taller all right what about you um i'm five eight and a half

06:15:54.720 um i minimum i would date is five seven what's the ideal ideal six four six five what's your ideal

06:16:03.200 ideal like maybe five eleven or like six but what about you i'm five three um maybe five eleven

06:16:14.880 is that minimum yeah what's ideal uh six okay what about what about you i'm five four sounds like

06:16:27.680 five three and a half whatever but i would say say five five okay chloe what about you i'm five six i

06:16:36.720 prefer someone taller i know anybody taller but i prefer five eight to six i think one or something

06:16:42.160 five five eight minimum six one ideal yeah okay what about you i'm four eleven um i want a tall guy

06:16:49.760 ideal six two but minimum five ten all right would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the

06:16:58.160 forest um neither you gotta pick one but if i had to have to pick a bear a bear okay same like ideally

06:17:08.960 neither neither but um i guess i'd like the bear i mean i'm running either way so yeah okay so bear

06:17:17.760 there yeah man man a man man man bear bear a man so bear bear bear bear uh why do you pick bear why

06:17:28.080 don't you pick man i pick bear because um if i was out in the forest especially in the area that i live in

06:17:38.320 there's a lot of crazy people and a lot of people kind of live like i guess like

06:17:44.800 very in rural the area that i'm that i live at is very rural and i just know a man if i saw a man in

06:17:51.280 the woods i know he'd be like probably up to something and i don't know i'd just be scared of getting

06:17:57.920 hunted what about you um yeah and then also i forgot the saying but i think if it's a brown bear you're like

06:18:05.280 laid down or something i don't know i forgot the saying but it's something like that okay

06:18:13.040 humans are smarter so i would they would strategize it's a little bit more dangerous sure

06:18:24.080 and it was just oh yes um i think i just want to get taken out as fast as possible if i was like

06:18:30.160 me versus a bear versus me versus a man i feel like it'd be painful either way yeah no i know

06:18:37.840 was that the question or uh that is an interesting one that is very uh very interesting does it change

06:18:44.960 does it change for any of you if it's 10 men versus 10 or 10 men or 10 bears oh that's so scary

06:18:51.200 it's scary regardless yeah does it change your answer uh no i don't know i'd have to think

06:18:58.160 about it because it's like negatives on both sides um it might change i feel like i'd pick

06:19:05.200 the bears because they'd be minding their own business at that point because they have a

06:19:08.800 community out there really pay attention to me okay um why are they out in the forest a couple

06:19:15.680 follow-up questions then uh does it change anything if the animal is changed to a mountain lion so man

06:19:22.400 versus mountain lion uh mountain lion yeah mountain lion again i don't know i'm not sure you gotta pick

06:19:30.800 one how tall is the man 5 10 average male 5 10 he's 5 10 is he fast say no um he's average speed okay i

06:19:45.200 think i'm pretty fast i'll choose the man then i think i'll still choose a mountain lion mountain lion

06:19:50.160 you pick a mountain lion i've come across one so sure and it went copacetic no i i was kind of scared

06:19:57.280 but i was with the group so oh it was fine can i ask y'all a question man like this question always

06:20:02.240 just throws me off because it's like there's no potential with the bear there's actually a potential

06:20:09.440 of getting along with the human being so my question to y'all is how often do you meet random

06:20:15.280 men that scare you a lot very often yeah so most men you've been in your life just scare you like

06:20:21.120 the average guy walking down the street at the store not most but more than you should come across

06:20:25.600 yeah but you guys literally do you guys not go clubbing like at all yeah okay then so what's the

06:20:32.160 like you know how many random people and like men that are in a club how many men you walk by today

06:20:37.440 like just on the street when you're shopping or what did they do to you today no i'm just saying

06:20:42.960 like if it was if i was in the forest and i see a man like he's probably out there hunting or something

06:20:48.240 like i'm gonna be hunting girls so you see you see this guy okay you see this guy who's in hiking gear

06:20:56.160 and okay if he's in hiking gear then he looks really ready he has to make himself like

06:21:01.840 you know like okay also hold on have the friendly vibe is it is it like an open public hiking if i

06:21:08.000 saw him at like top of the world in laguna and that's not really a forest but like if i saw him

06:21:13.040 at like mount baldy if i saw him at mount baldy i go hiking there all the time i depends on the time

06:21:19.840 if it is it a hiking trail that like people go to if it's like some buttfuck fucking nowhere like

06:21:25.040 a middle buttfuck nowhere forest and i see a man i'll give i'll give it like this so it is a hiking trail

06:21:31.840 but there's no one around no one for miles it is a hiking trail though so the reason he might be on

06:21:40.080 this trail it could be to be it could be to murder you it could also be there's pretext that i mean

06:21:47.280 he's hiking okay if it's a public hiking trail then might be a little safer so yeah but there's no one

06:21:55.440 around i still be scared but it's a little bit more so would you rather cross paths with the man or

06:22:01.680 the bear in a public hiking trail a man yeah it's public hiking trail but there's nobody around

06:22:07.840 a man okay if it's a public change for you change for you change for you yeah man you got the meme

06:22:14.480 you got the meme let's pull up the meme all right brown bear nine feet tall 1300 pounds uh all that

06:22:20.880 other shit kyle he's 5'10 ew 174 pounds project engineer said hi to you at the gym once uh that's

06:22:29.920 an interesting and then just curious is there like a component here of like yeah the bear could kill

06:22:34.160 you but like the man could like i say you basically no i think the argument is that what i've seen a lot

06:22:40.320 at least with the bear argument on tiktok is that like women have said okay a bear will kill you and

06:22:46.960 that's it like he'll eat you whatever a man will kill you and then who knows what the hell he's

06:22:51.360 gonna do with your body well i'm still alive so nobody has done that to me yet but you don't know in

06:22:59.200 that situation i'm saying there's crazy people i don't know i don't know i'd rather not be in any of

06:23:05.600 that but most you you walk power you walk by random people every day and 99 of them don't say

06:23:11.200 shit to you so why all of a sudden that's different though because you're talking about in public

06:23:15.520 we're talking about a forest and i'm the only person there with a man it's it's totally different

06:23:20.240 scenario you've never been left in a room with a man who's like just you in a random person like

06:23:26.000 in the forest no no like like just say i had a house party it's just like okay it's like i'm saying

06:23:30.320 the house party and forests are completely different but you're in a room completely alone with the

06:23:34.240 weirdos huh you can't just be ignoring it it's scary it's so isolated wait have you ever gone

06:23:40.480 home with a guy after the club no no not saying like you hooked up with him no never no i went to

06:23:46.240 a house party where there were multiple people but not just one guy no did you know all of those dudes

06:23:51.520 no so they random i mean a lot of things go down in houses more than doing the woods but i was also

06:23:56.000 with my friends so i wasn't alone so you okay i guess we can't linger on this for too long but like

06:24:01.440 so those there's some fear here that like the guy would say you um what you're doing a risk

06:24:07.600 assessment what is the percentage like what percent of men do you think in this scenario

06:24:13.760 would like choose to victimize a woman go ahead starting with you i'm a little confused by your

06:24:18.480 question well you're doing a risk assessment right so you're saying well yeah bears are dangerous

06:24:23.600 but men can also be dangerous and i'm determining that well in this scenario i'd rather like risk

06:24:31.440 the danger of the bear than the dame the potential the potential danger of the bear versus the

06:24:36.000 potential danger of a man we i'm sure we all agree that the man could do nothing the bear could do

06:24:40.560 nothing the bear could viciously murder you the man could yeah do worse no i think but what is the

06:24:46.880 actual like what percentage of men do you think would for example essay you in this situation i hope

06:24:53.200 none no but what do you think it would be is it i no i i don't know i don't know i can't come up

06:24:59.360 with the percentage because i know you're trying to ask me the question knows of like oh not all

06:25:03.520 men obviously not all men but why have why do a lot of women have stories of being essayed like it's yes

06:25:10.960 i understand it's not all men but why why is it all women basically yes a lot i i have like no friends

06:25:18.720 that have not been like essayed i feel like every woman that i know including like i mean we would have

06:25:23.360 to further older women in my family have all yeah we would i mean first we would have to define like

06:25:27.760 like what essay means because some people when they say essay they include like cat calling so

06:25:31.760 no no no not like we would have to talk like is this like a vat like a stranger who's like violently

06:25:37.120 it doesn't have to be a stranger usually it's the people closest to you sure absolutely family

06:25:41.200 members can do it uncles whatever which means the likelihood of a random person doing it is probably

06:25:45.680 less if it's always somebody close to home so the random person is actually safer according to that

06:25:49.760 logic yeah but like you don't know like we're out in the woods like who they got their chance

06:25:54.560 just move things on what's the percentage what's the percentage brian i don't know i don't know how

06:25:59.360 to answer that don't ask me because i don't know i don't know you don't look you don't need to be

06:26:02.960 like it's 53.37 you can just be like i think it's 60 i know and then you're gonna be like well actually

06:26:08.960 it's this much and then i'm gonna be like okay wow like what yeah like i i don't know i actually how

06:26:14.880 about this i will agree i won't even i won't give you the actual number but i feel so because i don't

06:26:19.760 know i won't give you the i won't even give you the actual number you just tell me what you think

06:26:23.600 it is you're stressing me out because i don't know it's like hypothetically yes take a guess

06:26:26.800 okay 30 there 30 30 percent 40 40 50 50 you said bear all right did you say did you say bear

06:26:37.520 yeah no or she said man but she says 50 okay 100 because i don't know 100 you have a father i do

06:26:46.160 so even your father but again i don't know there's so many unknowns in the scenario if you

06:26:52.640 but 100 100 you're saying it's all men this is something goes back to this it's more i'd rather

06:26:59.920 be safe than sorry 100 is safe with a so you're assuming that everybody is there you could say

06:27:05.040 50 i don't know that's crazy 100 100 for somebody who don't know 100 that's the first we've never

06:27:10.560 heard that's why whenever i go out i go clubbing everything i go with a big group of friends i want that

06:27:15.600 to be a zero percent chance as much as possible i'm not gonna lie oh i'm sorry i said man you're

06:27:20.000 an accountant right aren't you good with numbers i'm not following the logic here like a hundred

06:27:24.560 percent to me it's a hundred percent i know this statistically the numbers were very different i

06:27:28.560 understand you should go with that approach to assume 100 out of your safety but in the conversation

06:27:34.400 that sounds kind of crazy i think it's like a five percent okay i before sorry before i watch when

06:27:39.760 before we came on here this question i used to answer bear but i literally just after watching your

06:27:44.640 podcast i just google searched it and the likelihood of a man like doing anything to you

06:27:50.160 a man is more likely to get beat up in the street than a woman and i was like shocked because wait

06:27:56.560 they actually tell you what percentage it actually is i mean there's like fbi doj crime statistics yeah

06:28:01.840 like the incidence rate of this happening and like a given year to a woman but that's like only like

06:28:06.880 that's been reported right obviously there's like unfalsifiable like how do you that's only reported

06:28:14.000 you you have to yeah i mean we have to go off of statistics you know i mean men assaulted and don't

06:28:19.280 report that too yeah that's why i'm saying that's that's my whole point yeah but even the reported

06:28:25.200 ones like they either there's no corroborate or what's it called there's no um corroborating evidence

06:28:31.360 uh there's that there's like false accusations this sort of thing so even like among the reported

06:28:35.760 cases like there's still some doubts as to like what actually happened

06:28:41.360 yeah these days you can whistle at a chick and it depends on how she take you this

06:28:44.080 yeah that's awful nobody should be or like not the whist i mean yeah the whistling too cat calling

06:28:49.760 yeah um i guess what is cat calling like it's like the girl uh i mean i know what it is but what

06:28:55.040 but hey what's going on you look good can i holla at you that's cat calling yeah is it so a man can't

06:29:00.880 say that like though i feel like that's offensive with a man whistles at you he's a he's a i whistle

06:29:06.400 at men no i feel like cat calling is like you're not actually approaching the girl genuinely she's

06:29:11.520 like walking by and you're like kind of saying something a bit offensive nice titties or i don't

06:29:17.120 know it could be it could even be like hey i feel like even girls like if a guy says hey beautiful and

06:29:22.480 that's it i think some girl i think some girls would say that's cat calling that i think a lot

06:29:27.360 of girls would say that's cat calling i've seen girls say i don't i'm tired of men calling me

06:29:30.960 beautiful well damn what the fuck do you want to call you then i wish you know it'd be nice if uh

06:29:37.200 i think women should get revenge how oh they got it guys should start cat calling the dudes in fact

06:29:44.080 you also need you also need to get revenge for dick pics so you guys got to just start sending clam

06:29:49.360 pics you guys gotta start sending pussy pics you know what i mean start a revenge revenge and then

06:29:55.920 you're gonna say oh that's not a traditional woman yeah i know can't we can never win anything we do

06:30:03.120 as long as it's just to me she can still be traditional

06:30:09.600 just saying okay wait uh two things don't take nudes don't so anyways uh i guess how about this does

06:30:17.840 this change anything would you rather be in a 10 by 10 room alone with a random man or random bear

06:30:24.400 does that change anything so it's a room yeah you prefer switch to man yeah man man i assume in the

06:30:32.400 city already and then how about uh do you guys are you guys aware of the whole like uh wait one sec

06:30:38.480 there was this oh sorry wrongful for the delay i'm gonna let this one come through appreciate it

06:30:44.480 wrongful rage donated two hundred dollars chair one you admitted to coming here to lie and deceive

06:30:51.600 for your own ego more than once tonight ye hands shall reap barren fields of woe is me yes

06:31:01.760 that's awesome yo w's in the chat for wrongful rage what's up oh you're confused no i'm confused

06:31:08.080 because that's the second message that has come up that says that i lied but i don't know what i lied

06:31:12.880 about i have no idea um or maybe it's like you said you were like doing it intentionally or something

06:31:19.840 like when you were going at andrew i don't know rachel um wait we're uh the bear thing oh the uh

06:31:27.760 so like when it comes to like the whole bathroom thing with like the the trans stuff do you think

06:31:31.520 that's like fair game then like you know how like conservatives don't want like transgender women

06:31:38.640 to go into uh women's bathrooms like so basically like it's a male it's a transgender woman going into

06:31:46.320 a women's bathroom like do you think that all of you that picked bear do you think that's fair for

06:31:51.520 conservatives to say yes yes i do you think that's fair i feel like you can't really tell if it if

06:31:57.840 they're like a like trans trans you can't tell well i can tell maybe there's some people that you can

06:32:04.400 tell but a lot of um a lot of trans people they like okay well how about this whether they're

06:32:09.440 passing or not they're still technically a male well i don't know i'm not gonna go under the stall

06:32:13.520 and be like hey just checking if you okay so if they're not so so you're saying if they're not

06:32:18.400 passing then they shouldn't be able to go into the bathroom is that what you're saying i i really don't

06:32:23.360 care as long as you're going in there to piss do your business right but they're going in there

06:32:27.040 and i'm out they're they're a male potentially going in there with a single female right

06:32:34.720 so like let's say the i mean but you pick bear right yeah okay so are you fine with conservatives

06:32:41.200 saying they're uncomfortable with even conservative women they're uncomfortable with the idea of a

06:32:46.480 transgender woman who's a male going into the woman's bathroom i don't know but i don't know

06:32:53.520 i don't know why but why are you so quick to like pick the okay and then what about you you

06:32:58.400 picked the bear are you fine with conservatives on this position i mean people just have conservatives

06:33:04.560 obviously are going to have their different opinions but me like if someone wants to say

06:33:08.000 that they're transgender and they identify with that with that then that's on them like i'm not

06:33:12.400 going to have an issue with it if they can go to the bathroom with you with this if they say that

06:33:16.880 they identify as a woman and that's the gender that they choose to be then what am i going to do about

06:33:22.160 it no no i'm just saying we could you could do something about it it's no longer going to be a

06:33:26.000 man if he still has a penis and he goes in the bathroom with you you cool with that okay wait i

06:33:33.440 have a question going back to the bear bear in the forest scenario how about this you can you're

06:33:39.200 going to cross paths with somebody who's either transgender or a cross dresser so the cross dresser

06:33:47.760 and you haven't talked to them so you you don't know their gender identity so the cross dresser

06:33:56.160 in this case is still a man he just enjoys dressing up as a woman but because this would be your same

06:34:02.720 metric that you use for like make trying to make a determination whether somebody is transgender would

06:34:09.120 would you then if you see someone in the forest who could be a cross dresser or could be transgendered

06:34:17.600 a transgender woman does it change i don't think so so you still pick bear i think even if i saw a

06:34:24.560 woman yeah do you pick woman over bear i think it really depends do you pick woman over bear um woman

06:34:29.680 over bear no i'd still probably choose the bear i think it's honestly like just the forest that creeps

06:34:35.600 me out do you think the woods just bring something we got to change the change the setting so what's the

06:34:44.080 setting that bring the kill out of y'all since it's the woods for us i mean i don't think about

06:34:47.760 my victoria's secret or some like where do we take y'all that we need to be nervous about because

06:34:52.000 obviously the woods is where we turn into murderers i'm not i don't where do we take y'all do y'all get

06:34:55.760 crazy the mall the mall okay thanks for telling me give me the bay of a woman in the mall oh the mall

06:35:00.640 on black friday uh and then what do you think about like the whole bathroom i don't know if you got to

06:35:05.360 answer the bathroom one i don't really care but then again same to what she said if i saw a single woman in the

06:35:11.200 forest i think i'm just scared of well in general so yeah but so with the bathroom scenario yeah i

06:35:16.400 get that you guys wouldn't care if like a transgender woman used bathroom but like so here's the

06:35:20.560 conservative angle here the conservatives would argue uh we want to ban transgender women from

06:35:26.400 being able to use the bathroom would you i'm is it fair to assume you guys would fight against this

06:35:31.200 sort of legislation that's it yeah because then i feel like where did they pee then yeah like who is

06:35:36.640 there going to be somebody standing let me just ask you this is there somebody going to be standing

06:35:39.840 at the door and just be like okay i'm just gonna you know i gotta see what's in between your legs

06:35:44.000 no that's not gonna happen you know well yeah how are they gonna ban yeah but trans people from going

06:35:50.400 into the restrooms if if they're if they can pass no one's gonna be standing at the door checking

06:35:56.320 everybody yeah that's not what we're arguing like there's different sorts of enforcement mechanisms

06:36:00.720 they don't have to be preventative it could be like after the fact like uh if it was criminalized

06:36:05.760 for example it would be like it would be like after the fact sort of um some sort of criminal

06:36:12.000 process if it was a crime maybe it starts with a fine i don't know the exact details of it but no

06:36:17.600 that's not what i'm suggesting that there's like a bathroom monitor

06:36:23.520 i guess it requires a lot of self-accountability to know that you had the surgery and going to the

06:36:28.560 all-gender bathroom as opposed to the men's do y'all think they donated two hundred dollars

06:36:36.400 by bang's logic it sounds like she is okay with men coming into the woman's bathroom as long as he

06:36:42.320 is staying in the stall also english plurals are hard but esl is not an excuse esl yeah libertariat

06:36:51.600 thank you so much man do you appreciate the uh tts uh it sounds like she's okay with men coming

06:36:56.480 into the women's bathroom huh i don't know it's just like interesting to me are y'all cool with

06:37:01.200 trans uh women competing with um natural women no but why not they can come to the bathroom with y'all

06:37:10.160 i said no to the bathroom oh okay okay you think they should compete with women so i put on mind i

06:37:15.840 think men are physically stronger than women okay so in that aspect if they haven't like on the hormones

06:37:22.160 and everything and i don't know too much detail about it but if they don't have that and already

06:37:26.720 develop the muscles for as like a man then no so you think if a man cuts off his his member that will

06:37:34.320 equate him to the strength of a woman so they can compete now not at all because i think especially

06:37:38.800 the age that you can cut it off i correct me if i'm wrong but i think it's you have to be a legal age

06:37:43.680 right so then you'd already develop the muscles so i don't think it'd be right for trans women to be

06:37:48.800 competing so why is it right for them to go in the bathroom with women then it's a different i mean

06:37:52.560 are you competing to go with me to be i'm just trying to figure out like because it's like once

06:37:56.800 you open one door you got to open them all i don't think you have to open them all um we don't but

06:38:00.960 they do yeah it's okay well there's an all-gender restroom these days everywhere like there's an

06:38:05.920 all-gender restroom right over there yeah it's fine but we can't go in together that ain't all

06:38:10.880 gender restroom i mean if you want to we could no there is unisex bathrooms in some clubs in atlanta

06:38:15.680 once they're back i'll get through the rest of the things but uh anie yeah you said uh do

06:38:20.400 transgender well uh the question it's yes or no do transgender individuals have a duty to disclose

06:38:26.320 to romantic partners to which you said no yeah so you don't think that transgender women or men should

06:38:33.120 disclose to partners that they're transgender oh i'm so sorry i did not think i did i totally misread

06:38:40.160 that i even chat i even redid my entire questionnaire to switch it from do you disagree to just simple

06:38:46.880 yes or no i'm sorry i got rid of the double negative no it's okay i misread the question

06:38:51.600 it's totally fine uh so the question next is is it straight for a man to date a transgender woman to

06:38:57.120 which you said maybe i don't know you don't know i'm very unsure uh you skipped do you have thoughts on

06:39:04.160 this oh yeah i thought it was very like ify because as long as they disclose it and then the

06:39:09.680 person in the relationship is okay with that thing yeah then it would be straight oh okay do you think

06:39:14.800 a man is straight if he deals with a trans woman you think he's still straight wouldn't it be straight

06:39:19.200 the other way like so the transgender woman doesn't disclose which i think is wrong but doesn't disclose

06:39:25.440 and the man is essentially tricked into believing that it's an actual woman well that would be

06:39:31.520 straight but he got tricked yeah no regardless like i think that that information should be

06:39:37.840 disclosed you think it should be disclosed i think the partner has the right to know yeah but assuming

06:39:42.960 there is a disclosure is it straight for a man to date a transgender woman yeah yes okay um on the

06:39:50.400 same question yeah i think i put no i don't know honestly like both you were in the middle yeah i'm

06:39:56.560 very neutral about that like all right no i don't think it is you said it's no it's not straight

06:40:05.440 uh you said yes it is straight chloe uh so i think that was a yes a maybe a yes and a

06:40:16.560 maybe how is it still straight though when he's not even dealing with a vagina i think it's also not my

06:40:22.560 place to judge yeah we're not judging we're just it's not judges we just look calling it's like i'm

06:40:27.760 calling that wig pink it's pink but if a if a transgender you know woman claims themselves as

06:40:35.200 a woman and the man is attracted to that then yeah that would but he he would like he could either be

06:40:42.320 like gay or pansexual he wouldn't be straight i mean he can be but i mean he could be attracted to

06:40:47.520 like like a lot of transgenders these days like they're very beautiful like feminine right i agree

06:40:52.080 with you that they can trick men but no one is i agree with you that can be deceptive but why all

06:40:57.280 these labels like i'm a hundred percent straight like no one's there like but but so i guess when

06:41:05.120 it comes to dating right uh like if there's a sexual encounter and this individual still has a penis

06:41:11.760 you would have under those circumstances i don't if they still have a penis then no i wouldn't

06:41:17.280 really right so if they're engaging in sexual activity then no i wouldn't think they're straight

06:41:20.800 maybe pan or bi but what so what would be the difference though what do you mean well you said

06:41:25.840 it it would be like i i can i can get that some transgender women can look like women but like once the

06:41:35.040 disclosure is made and it's clear i i don't know in whether it's pre-op or post-operative i just don't

06:41:42.720 know in what world it could ever be straight or heterosexual well like you said if the transgender

06:41:49.520 woman still has a penis then i wouldn't assume the person that they're romantically in a relationship is

06:41:57.840 fully straight but it's not my place to judge like i said chloe on some about someone's sexuality

06:42:02.720 and their preferences yeah that'd be totally fine but even i i would go even further and say even if

06:42:08.480 this individual has had an operation to turn a penis into a neo vagina as it's called even then i don't

06:42:17.280 think that that would be straight which is okay but that's the way you think well no it's not just

06:42:23.680 how i think it's just pure fact isn't that pansexual sure it would be pansexual but it wouldn't be

06:42:31.360 straight yeah what does pansexual mean i mean pansexual would be like attraction i would argue

06:42:36.080 that it would not it would be technically homosexual but uh pansexual is like attraction

06:42:41.280 to transgender people or non-binary or whatever what's your question go ahead so like

06:42:48.880 okay if the trans person were to have like the surgery to you know to like get that

06:42:54.960 yeah but um like what is your oh i don't know i guess i was just gonna say like what makes

06:43:03.840 never mind i don't want to what's the words brian your eyes would it be straight if the person had

06:43:08.320 the surgery no that would still not be straight oh i just i get confused because it's still biologically

06:43:14.880 chromo down to the chromosomes you're still so i mean if you're looking at the actual terminology so you have

06:43:20.160 heterosexual and homosexual right so like you there's a indicator there even in the word itself

06:43:26.800 sex sexual so when we're talking about heterosexual homosexual it's always pointed to the sex in which

06:43:33.040 you're attracted we talk about opposite sex and same-sex relationship we don't say

06:43:37.760 opposite gender or opposite uh or same gender we say same-sex relationship that sort of thing and so

06:43:45.920 uh even going ahead and granting that the transgender woman the gender identity is a woman

06:43:51.760 uh the sex has not changed you can't change your sex so transgender woman is still male two males

06:43:58.640 engaging in a romantic or sexual relationship is homosexual by definition it could never be straight

06:44:04.720 okay so you i'm just trying to clarify um because they were born with x y chromosomes that makes it

06:44:14.320 not straight even though they had the surgery i mean if i just want to clarify there is no surgery

06:44:18.720 to change your chromosomes so it's not just i'm just saying like the surgery like the down there

06:44:23.040 surgery you know they still produce testosterone though they still so you're saying they have the

06:44:26.880 surgery right yeah they look let me ask you this how about how about they have the surgery but they

06:44:31.600 still identify as a man so they have the surgery and they're like yeah they have the surgery but they

06:44:36.800 still identify as a man i don't think they would do that let's say they did some people are okay let's

06:44:46.160 just let's just be objective here objectively speaking yes there's only two sexes male and female

06:44:51.760 whatever you if you're transgender and like your sexuality is your choice but i do think you need

06:44:58.560 to disclose if you're transgender but if we're being just pragmatic yes practically male and female boom boom

06:45:05.200 is that is that objectively or just realistically speaking because i think we try to make it

06:45:10.800 it's not the same thing though because it's like some things are objective okay realistically

06:45:15.520 sure yes male and female god made adam and eve there you go boom answer's done let's move on

06:45:22.400 is this like a sense of subject or like let's move on like i just feel like there's more topics to

06:45:27.680 talk about yeah like sexuality like is a choice like what you want to do but like if wait a choice

06:45:36.000 cancel like sexuality is a choice yeah like if you want to be like gay then be gay if you want to be

06:45:42.800 straight be straight but if we're talking about like gender yes there's only male and female well i the

06:45:48.000 the reason i bring this up and it is dating related is like they're not all but there is a push by

06:45:54.320 uh activists to try to shame straight men to essentially call straight men bigots because you

06:46:01.040 won't have sex or engage in a romantic relationship with a transgender woman if you're transgender i have

06:46:07.680 no problems with you like go whatever go do it maybe wait until you're 18 to get whatever but in any

06:46:14.720 case don't hate you want you to have the best life possible whatever that entails but if you're going to

06:46:21.280 tell me that i'm a bigot and you're going to question my sexuality and you're going to say i'm uh

06:46:28.800 transphobic or that i you're you're attacking my sexuality in the same way that a gay man might

06:46:34.080 object to fight or might object to like having people question his sexuality and if if you were to

06:46:39.520 question a gay man and say you don't really like other men you like women gay men would find this

06:46:46.560 incredibly offensive uh in that same way i don't like it when straight people are attacked for

06:46:52.960 having preferences for dating uh the opposite sex wait who's saying that though who's there are

06:46:59.120 activists and there are women at this table who said that you guys said that uh it would be straight

06:47:05.680 for a man to date a transgender woman and as a representative of the heterosexual community

06:47:10.960 no it would not be straight and you're basically trying to um trying to uh dictate to me what my

06:47:18.320 sexuality is in the same way that it would be offensive to dictate to a uh a gay man oh no you're

06:47:24.320 not actually gay you're attracted to women it's just a you know no well yeah i don't know it's all

06:47:29.840 about preference you know do you all agree with that though do you want to date a transgender woman

06:47:33.840 no right no then i don't see the problem here because well the problem becomes if we allow

06:47:41.280 society if we allow if we cede ground on this and then we start saying well it's okay for you to call

06:47:47.680 me a bigot because i don't want to date a transgender woman i'm not willing to hold on hold on i'm not

06:47:54.160 i'm not saying anybody here did but there are people saying that it's wrong to refuse to date a

06:47:59.280 transgender person because they're transgender and i'm not willing to cede that societal uh

06:48:06.080 collapse i'm not willing to cede that i think you have like a really good point there thank you yeah

06:48:12.080 i think you should i don't think we can speak on this because we're not transgender women so but

06:48:16.400 you're straight women so we don't have a stake in it so you do have a stake i think you should invite

06:48:20.800 somebody who does have that experience so they can i don't think well i don't think we need transgender

06:48:24.880 people at this table to have this conversation and we have had transgender people on the show

06:48:28.720 and i agree with them because at the end of the day they're trying to be something no offense to

06:48:32.800 them they're trying to be something that we are that's like if i'm trying to misappropriate your

06:48:38.080 culture you have a place to say that please do great food spread it around you said what we have

06:48:43.280 great food you have great food no no i'm just saying but if i was trying to let you know if i was

06:48:47.600 trying to misrepresent where you from taiwan so if i came into the table and i started making claims of

06:48:53.600 what a taiwanese man or woman is and it's inaccurate you definitely have a right to speak on that because

06:48:59.760 you actually are that and i'm speaking from the outside so i think we saying this since we're men

06:49:05.280 and women we should have an opinion on people who what what we have and is trying to change reality

06:49:11.600 according to that because i don't think he's saying we're trying to down them but if a trans there are

06:49:17.520 people out here saying that if you're a regular straight man and you are not attracted or you're pushing

06:49:23.120 back the advances of a trans woman something is wrong with you to the point where it can jeopardize

06:49:29.360 your your your life in some means or way do you all agree with that yeah that's wrong what you're

06:49:34.240 saying is that some like there's there's there's pushback there's narrative there's some people that

06:49:38.960 are too woke you know is that what you're saying that ain't even awake you're totally asleep i don't

06:49:42.640 even think that they're awake i'm gonna but do you agree with that i there's just so much going on

06:49:48.000 but yeah i think i i think you did make can you scoot the mic to the edge of the table we have uh

06:49:52.720 ill can back yo what's up man thank you so much for the soup chat uh dude is that him and is that

06:49:58.080 him in the profile picture damn what that's a giga chat right there bro look at that hey do this thing

06:50:03.680 you know that thing uh ladies if you put a trans woman on islands with a hundred men in a hundred

06:50:09.520 years how many kids would be on that island and why zero zero yo thank you so much for the soup chat

06:50:17.440 man w's in chat for uh ill con how do you say the ill con ill con ali ill con ali thank you so

06:50:22.800 much for the soup chat man appreciate it uh that would be a big fat zero okay moving on off of this topic

06:50:29.520 uh only one of you are men physically stronger than women uh to which carissa you wrote you're like

06:50:37.920 maybe like half and half okay did you mean like there are some women that are stronger than men

06:50:45.840 i would agree with that yeah but like generally speaking would you say most men uh men are stronger

06:50:50.720 than women is that a fair statement to say uh yeah okay um but you know a lot of women go really hard

06:50:58.000 in the gym i mean i would sure yeah absolutely there's a lot of like some of them have like really

06:51:04.720 huge muscles and i'm just like whoa right but like how about how about the following statement

06:51:09.200 uh 99 of men are stronger than 99 of women yeah okay well then we won't linger on that uh can women

06:51:18.720 the question is can women be sexist towards men to which you said no uh you left it blank did you have

06:51:25.840 thoughts on that i think it's like 50 50 but yeah it's the what i think it's like 50 50 like yes there are

06:51:33.360 times where girls can be sexist and then also it's like not a large part okay uh carissa you said no

06:51:41.920 to that chloe you said yes ashley you said yes um so you guys think women they cannot be sexist

06:51:52.720 towards men is that correct yes okay and then i think you said that too uh so women cannot be sexist

06:52:00.960 towards men no i said it was like both it was 50 50 but you said uh that women cannot be sexist

06:52:08.240 towards men um i just don't know but i do agree with elsie though it could be 50 50.

06:52:16.960 i mean what it's kind of a yes or no question to the question is can so the question is can women be

06:52:23.200 sexist towards men to which you said no okay well yes well i'm not trying to force your answer here

06:52:29.360 whatever you think is whatever you think yeah so change my mind you change okay is it still 50 50 for

06:52:36.960 you or well you said you said yes or no so i'll just say yes okay so i guess that leaves you uh anahi

06:52:45.680 uh why is it that women cannot be sexist towards men um because i feel like you have to be in a

06:52:50.720 position of power to be sexist you know yeah the so the uh prejudice equal or sorry it's uh sexism

06:52:58.880 equals prejudice plus power right yeah and is that what you were kind of thinking initially or yeah but

06:53:05.120 it's also anyone can be sexist or like for example yeah we'll just say yeah yes everyone can be sexist to

06:53:15.920 anyone okay all right so women can't be sexist towards men okay and so for how about we give an

06:53:23.360 example um let's say kamala harris had just won the presidency instead of trump right uh and kamala harris

06:53:32.240 is looking to hire a janitor she refuses to hire a male janitor because he's male would this be sexist

06:53:41.120 no what would it be what what would it be what would it be i don't would it be prejudice

06:53:51.120 no because okay you made the differentiation that you can be like prejudice but like sexism entails uh

06:53:57.920 it's prejudice plus power right yeah okay so she would she be sexist

06:54:04.320 well if she didn't want to hire a man then that's okay because i totally understand her because men can't

06:54:08.800 clean that well anyways but is it sexist hold on most men are janitors but what is it sexist i just

06:54:15.360 don't know really how to answer your question i'm sorry i don't know really know how to answer your

06:54:19.120 question it's a simple question no no you can say so your position is your position is uh in order to

06:54:26.240 be sexist there has to be prejudice plus power right so is she being prejudiced or is she being sexist

06:54:33.680 i guess prejudice yeah okay so just to be clear kamala harris president of the united states of

06:54:41.040 america the most powerful country in the world she's the most powerful woman in the world she's the most

06:54:45.840 powerful person in the world she is in charge of the executive branch of the united states government

06:54:51.840 which is a system prejudice or sorry uh sexism equals prejudice plus power does kamala harris have

06:55:00.400 power more power than the male janitor well i guess in this story since she is president she does have

06:55:07.440 some more power no she doesn't just have some power she has the most power yeah the most power

06:55:12.960 right she's in so i'm meeting your own definition of sexism so is she sexist i don't know dude why

06:55:19.520 you're like you're just trying to trap me i'm not trying to trap you just need to concede it's like what

06:55:24.800 time is in you're talking to me about you just need to concede you need to concede on the point

06:55:29.520 i'm just tired bro i but i'm using your definition i'm not trying to be like actually that's not the

06:55:36.560 definition like anybody can be sexist towards anybody not gonna happen like i don't think yeah

06:55:41.360 but i'm using your definition so you said sexism equals prejudice plus power you've just said i'm i'm

06:55:48.000 even fulfilling your own definition okay she has power she's being prejudiced sexism equals prejudice

06:55:55.680 plus power is she being sexist i'm literally walking in that scenario okay and i just said no yes and

06:56:01.760 then like i'm literally hand-holding you to the finish line okay why is it so hard for you to just

06:56:09.440 say that a woman can be are you confused on the question no i'm like genuinely tired she just can't

06:56:15.520 admit that a woman can be sexist no because you can't you can and you based on the definition that

06:56:21.520 you said that's a scenario that's just such a hypothetical though what do you mean that's the

06:56:26.560 it's hypotheticals are to test your logic okay and i don't i don't even agree with your definition but

06:56:31.360 i'm granting it anyways okay what she just what do you want me to do look at the time i'm so tired

06:56:40.000 dude you know my situation like i'm literally reaching my okay fine you don't like the hypothetical you

06:56:44.720 don't like the hypothetical so i mean that's just not an excuse to like just disengage but

06:56:48.960 i'll give you a more realistic hypothetical then so because kamala harris is not the president of

06:56:54.320 the united states sorry uh does this change anything so you acknowledge that there are women uh ceos

06:57:03.920 yeah yeah and you acknowledge that they're like millionaire women or billionaire women yeah okay

06:57:09.040 okay so these do actually exist right would a uh female ceo if she refused to uh hire entry level

06:57:19.680 workers that were men who came from like a either a uh low to middle uh low to middle class right she

06:57:30.560 refused to hire men who for entry worker positions would this be sexism yeah is that what you want me to

06:57:38.640 say i did like no no it's not i mean like if that's not my answer and any of my answers is not

06:57:44.400 good enough for you if that's your actual answer yes yes but is that your actual answer yes yes okay

06:57:50.160 so you think that would be sexist yes beautiful there we go beautiful i'm not sure if that's actually

06:57:54.240 true but i'll accept it i'll accept it okay uh can be can or actually hold on let me go to have you ever

06:58:02.240 had a sugar daddy and or sold pics you've had the sugar daddy yeah okay uh you sold pics too on only

06:58:09.280 fans of course uh none no no no and no uh do you have any disagreements with show hosts you said yes

06:58:19.280 everything not yet for you no for you no for you uh i don't have your thing here dark avia but uh no for

06:58:26.640 you not really okay uh the next one is oh we have a chat here from joe murphy he says first world

06:58:34.000 issue a man can i have you read it yeah first world issue a man in the forest for 10 days would you

06:58:41.600 prefer a 50 50 feminist woman or man who could potentially grape you bears lions and alligators

06:58:50.240 excluded logically what makes sense do you prefer a 50 50 feminist woman what even is this question i

06:59:00.400 don't get it he lost me um would you prefer 50 50 feminist woman wait a 50 50 feminist woman or a man

06:59:10.000 wait this is the question for the man i don't know i don't think so i have no idea

06:59:13.520 what your people man is it joe wait joe can you send can you clarify because i i genuinely don't

06:59:21.680 understand um all right we have let's see here uh going to uh on i we need you back so we can get

06:59:32.000 through this right right okay thank you for that appreciate it she does she did clear the heart out

06:59:39.040 early but um uh you said to the question can people be racist towards white people you said

06:59:45.760 no uh you said no michelle yes carissa no chloe no ashley sorry you get skipped

07:00:02.960 uh i think so everybody said no was that except for i didn't say no i said yes

07:00:09.680 or so who said yes i did i did too you said so yes you can be racist towards white people

07:00:14.640 uh no no no no uh why not because i think it like my answer to the last question i think you have to

07:00:22.560 come from like a place of power and obviously i think so majority of the time throughout history

07:00:29.760 like white people have kind of always had like you know they've been like the colonizers and like you

07:00:35.040 know sure okay so systemic systemic stuff yeah does it do you also use the same definition so

07:00:40.400 racism equals prejudice plus power yeah why do you say no because white people were the original like

07:00:50.480 were originally racist to black people so how are we gonna just be racist like i don't know i just feel

07:00:55.840 like white people have so much power and privilege so you can't be racist towards them no okay i was

07:01:04.000 gonna say the same thing as lc

07:01:09.520 you could you could just have like a unique thought that would be nice but um what about you sorry roasted

07:01:17.040 go ahead go ahead no go ahead i think in america since white people are the majority of the population

07:01:22.480 population i think in america you can't be racist but if you go to asia different so like a white

07:01:27.280 person in asia they the they can 100 the country could be racist towards them okay yeah all right

07:01:34.320 you can so how about this you can definitely like exclude somebody and like you know like being mean

07:01:39.440 but like i do think like right you can't really be like oh shit like they're being racist to me because

07:01:44.480 i'm like yeah it just doesn't exist so but question for you um so like let's say

07:01:49.360 a uh a mexican gang targets a white individual because they're white and like uh physically

07:01:55.680 assaults them and murders them because they're white would that be uh racism

07:02:03.680 can you give me more context because like are they doing it so you know like with violent street

07:02:09.280 gangs there's sometimes gang initiations where they'll just randomly target somebody like that

07:02:13.600 guy right there um for example like up in northern california there's a lot of like uh there's a lot

07:02:18.720 i don't know if it was necessarily street gangs but there's a lot of violence towards like asian

07:02:22.320 americans for example and they were specifically targeted for um for violence um we can get in

07:02:29.120 that's kind of separate but a violent street gang targets a white person they're totally innocent

07:02:35.520 and they're targeting them because they're white would this be uh racism so since we love

07:02:41.520 hypotheticals on the show i don't think it is because unless they are i truly don't think it

07:02:49.520 is oh so that is just like the worst hypothetical ever how is that a bad hypothetical because it's

07:02:55.680 just like i don't know i'm not going to speak for all mexicans but i'm just saying like a white street

07:03:01.360 gang sees a black man and how about a white neo-nazi street gang sees a black man and they target him

07:03:10.480 because he's black and they murder him because he's black is that racism absolutely because

07:03:15.200 obviously they have the neo-nazi whatever and they're white they come from a place of power yes

07:03:22.080 that's how is it not the other way around i think i think and we had this issue last time yeah i think

07:03:27.040 y'all don't it's the difference between systematic racism and individual racism systematic racism is when

07:03:35.360 your racism can prohibit someone from upward mobility then you have individual racism with saying you

07:03:42.160 can't come in my store there's no power attached to that but it's still racism so i think y'all

07:03:47.520 confusing the two you can still not have power and be racist i can say i'm not giving you i don't want

07:03:53.040 to talk to you because you're white or you whatever i don't have power to stop you from getting money i

07:03:57.040 don't have power to stop you from living your life but i have the power to say i don't like you that's

07:04:01.200 still racism okay yeah i think i like the way you explained it like maybe yeah you can be like

07:04:06.560 racist or prejudice toward one person but i don't think but i don't think you can do it to a whole

07:04:12.240 group of people you know i'm saying it's a system and then there's individual differences yeah

07:04:18.400 um what about like inter-minority like can inter-minority racism exist so like excluding like

07:04:26.160 white people like if we like what about uh can asians be racist towards black people yeah

07:04:35.760 asians can be racist towards asians even mexicans you know what you want to know fun fact koreans

07:04:40.720 can be racist towards koreans oh what south and north we're going at it no koreans can be racist

07:04:47.120 towards korean americans is there is it because like there's classism or that sort of thing i mean

07:04:51.840 classism is a part but like it's just more so like yeah like they i've been i've been denied into

07:05:00.240 a club once because they're like you're from california in korea and i'm korean i speak fluent

07:05:05.200 korean i don't know if that can call that racism though no they don't want foreigners they they

07:05:10.480 consider us foreigners i think that's racist yeah that's like everywhere though like anywhere you go

07:05:15.680 the year for like wait but would that be like an i don't know if there's a different word for like

07:05:21.040 nationality i don't know because like huh i don't know i'd have to think about that one that's

07:05:26.080 interesting everyone can be racist that's just my opinion but wait uh okay how about this can asian

07:05:32.240 people be racist towards white people wait are you yes in america you've heard my answer she said no

07:05:39.280 is it no sorry wait are you asking the systematic argument you still saying no i think i don't i

07:05:46.000 could get a lot into it we could go to a whole debate about model minority and everything but for

07:05:50.960 this one i in america systematically like like if you got an asian store right you got a store in america

07:06:02.400 yeah you say i'm not serving this white man is that racism

07:06:05.200 okay let me start from your example hypothetically if i have a store as an asian i reject a white man

07:06:13.680 i reject brian like you can't shop here you're white get out of here and like absolutely heartbroken

07:06:19.440 very very pale so because i'm like a hater of him apparently i think in a way systematically maybe

07:06:29.680 systematically no because later on if he can call the police and the police would arrest me because

07:06:36.240 i refuse to service for him based on the basis of his race but he has that advantage to him because

07:06:43.280 he can immediately call up the police and it will be in his favor versus say this same story hypothetically

07:06:49.680 happened in asia if a say you created a store in asia and you refused an asian the police are likely

07:06:58.720 going to be on the asian side rather than your side so it'd be racism against your favor but i think

07:07:05.600 we're still talking about two different things though wait hold on i'm trying to parse that let me

07:07:11.920 let me try to rephrase it then maybe so say for example here i'm the minority and i reject you the

07:07:16.880 majority and that's i'd say it's not racism i'm not even sure if it's a crime like it might there could

07:07:21.760 be like a civil action yeah because i don't think the police i don't think would arrest you

07:07:28.800 i don't think that's like a crime i agree i think if you build enough cases of where you reject

07:07:34.640 white people that there could be like a civil action but i don't think there would be like a crime

07:07:38.880 but you don't think that's still racism this may not be systematic racism in other words that that

07:07:43.280 system that racism isn't supported by the governmental structure but that still doesn't mean it's not

07:07:49.120 racism it's just on an individual level it doesn't have the racism to change your life but it's still

07:07:55.200 racism i want to come back to this in just a sec but on a final hypothetical for you here

07:08:02.400 barack obama when he was president two terms when he was president same hypothetical

07:08:09.440 he refuses to hire a janitor because the janitor is white and this janitor came from a very uh he's

07:08:21.840 lives in poverty low socioeconomic status uh he refuses to hire the janitor because he's white

07:08:28.880 is this racism individual racism yeah oh okay all right well she's learning she's learning she's

07:08:35.840 making some progress good for you on a let me see if there's any other uh controversial things you

07:08:41.840 said here i don't know um but did i don't know if you wanted to have more of a back and forth with uh

07:08:48.640 with chloe i'm so tired i think that's the best we can get man okay well i'll move on from that

07:08:57.920 topic uh i do think it is uh pretty interesting though i mean uh i think you can be right anybody can

07:09:04.720 be racist towards anybody it's just okay and uh yeah um i think that you mentioned like if i was in

07:09:15.440 asian country and i had i had the store yeah right i don't know if like if i went to china i don't even

07:09:23.200 know if i would be allowed to like operate a business in china and like i don't know well that's

07:09:29.760 getting into a whole another geopolitical thing but um are men the primary victims of war to which

07:09:36.560 you say yes primary victims of what primary victims of war you said yes they are uh did you

07:09:43.280 have a thought on this one you didn't left it blank yeah i left it blank because i don't feel like i

07:09:48.240 have enough information or i don't know enough in order to make that sort of opinion or comment

07:09:52.560 but uh carissa you also no opinion on that men are the victims of war but men also send men to war

07:10:02.080 so sure yeah they do they still that means they're still the victims uh chloe you said uh you said both

07:10:10.720 yes and no are men the primary victims war so are you like kind of in the middle is it you think it's

07:10:15.680 both equal you think it's equal between men and women i think if the men started it yes because

07:10:21.600 oftentimes like for the usa for a lot of countries men are required to be scripted is that the word

07:10:27.600 conscripted yeah conscripted into the military and so as a result they are unfortunately

07:10:35.200 victims of the war um but i'm also thinking of like the at home kind of impact on like the

07:10:40.480 wives at home and everything from the most recent wars that we've had in america where it's just a

07:10:46.080 very big impact not just like a physical loss but also like a mental loss financial loss everything

07:10:53.360 well i mean so looking at like one individual level like so let's say there's one military death and

07:11:01.680 it's a man and then he has a wife and then he has two kids a boy and a girl uh who would the i guess

07:11:08.480 who's the primary victim of war is it equal or i think it depends on how you define it primary if

07:11:17.440 you think loss of life is the biggest victimization then it would be the man i would have to agree that

07:11:23.360 yes it would be the i mean do you not think it's the biggest uh victimization if you want to go into a

07:11:31.440 lot of different things we can but because then the woman at that point she's kind of living a life where

07:11:35.760 she has to she's widowed yep with widows financial ramifications maybe she can always find a man

07:11:42.240 when she did she did and what if she doesn't but it also takes part if the if the guy willingly

07:11:47.520 joined the war knowing that there's like a possible chance he's gonna die so he really did that to

07:11:54.800 himself well what's more likely to be resurrected from the dead or to find another husband

07:11:59.920 i'm just saying people willingly go to war people willingly go to war and fight for the country

07:12:07.600 because that's what they believe i mean a lot but here's the thing right like there has to you have

07:12:12.000 to do some sort of analysis on like the uh the sort of social the the social reality when it comes to um

07:12:21.600 like a lot of men will turn to the military for like financial reasons so like we can make an

07:12:27.040 argument like oh man this these people are like victims of circumstance and like maybe they join

07:12:31.920 during peace time and they're like going in they're young they're 17 18 years old 17 18 years old

07:12:39.760 we're almost done guys we're almost like drafted she she had a hard out so she cleared it with us

07:12:44.800 before um what's that like the like the kids being drafted like no i'm just saying like these men

07:12:49.760 they're like young they've got recruiters in their ear at 17 18 years old they're promised a car

07:12:54.800 they're promised free education they're promised xyz uh army of one blah blah all that all that

07:13:00.560 right and then they join peace time and then 9 11 boom okay now you're in afghanistan or iraq or some

07:13:10.320 bullshit like that fucking doing like asymmetrical warfare like urban warfare like some uh and there's a

07:13:20.320 i all kinds of crazy but um also you mentioned like men start the wars but i would say like

07:13:27.920 they're actually not the ones that even get victimized the arguably the the men i'm not

07:13:32.800 sure if it has to do with their gender more so with the fact that they're in positions of power which is

07:13:37.280 kind of irrelevant when it comes to gender um that really doesn't do anything for the like

07:13:43.280 thousands or tens of thousands or millions or hundreds of thousands of 18 year olds who are going to uh

07:13:49.040 go fight the war they didn't contribute in any capacity yeah they there was no contribution on

07:13:54.640 like some 18 year old boy in oklahoma when it came to like getting involved in like some middle middle

07:14:00.800 eastern like uh like uh dispute uh dispute sorry fucking so okay all right um how about this um

07:14:13.200 um if a woman's pregnant she has a husband and she goes through the pain of uh let's say the the

07:14:23.680 and i'm going to categorize pain as like some level of suffering uh she goes through the pain of carrying

07:14:28.320 the child and going through childbirth which from reports is very painful or can be very painful uh

07:14:36.800 is the man the primary victim of the woman's pregnancy because he has to like see her suffer

07:14:42.160 or is the woman the primary sufferer wait i'm so sorry could you repeat that question one more time

07:14:49.440 are you saying if a woman is pregnant yeah if a woman's pregnant but like the husband

07:14:54.160 like she's on the she's in the hospital room and she squeezes his hand really hard and he sees her

07:15:00.480 in pain uh-huh i mean it's kind of equal in terms of the suffering if my husband never told me that he was

07:15:07.920 the victim in that situation but we would argue that the woman is the primary i don't want to use

07:15:12.960 the term victim but she's the primary sufferer yeah would that be fair to say okay and then like

07:15:18.560 of course we could also make this argument when it came to like let's say a father

07:15:22.640 uh a father boyfriend brother whatever it is um if the if a father's daughter a boyfriend's girlfriend

07:15:30.560 a brother's sister if she gets essayed that can be very difficult for the brother and the immediate

07:15:36.560 family to deal with but i don't think we would ever say well because they're like they're

07:15:43.600 they're very upset about what happened i don't think we would ever say that the woman is not the

07:15:48.320 primary victim in this case fair to say do you think do you do that same logic apply that you have

07:15:53.920 for the war that you would for a man watching her pregnant i think this is very different because

07:15:58.080 war is such a big impact on so many things versus this is an individual case by case basis like

07:16:03.600 well no we're just saying that it's we just i think we're saying is the primary victim is overt

07:16:09.760 in both situations the man is primarily the victim in war and the woman is primarily the sufferer in

07:16:17.360 having a baby so do you think that it's cut and dry like how it is could you say if this could be

07:16:23.840 either way for the woman for the war you you said that the man is not necessarily primarily the victim

07:16:29.600 in war not necessarily but do you think the woman is necessarily the primary um sufferer in pregnancy

07:16:35.040 yes so why so so why is the man not the primary victim in war when he's dead when she just had a

07:16:40.640 baby she can bounce back from that i feel like for the baby the pregnancy it's very clear um in terms

07:16:46.240 of what the pain is and everything versus war impacts so many people on so many different levels

07:16:50.880 and for years will impact people no absolutely but the main person that's victimized is no longer

07:16:57.200 alive so there's no coming back from that you you can heal from the pregnancy yep you're not coming

07:17:02.560 back from death so i'm trying to say how is it not the same thing how was the man dying something that

07:17:08.320 everyone deals with for her having a child it's just her what if women were had to be conscripted into

07:17:14.160 the war would you say the same thing then you said what if no we talking about what it is though so

07:17:18.880 but you're still giving me hypotheticals here no that's not a hypothetical men don't hypothetically

07:17:24.320 die they do and women don't hypothetically have children they do so it's not a hypothetical at all

07:17:29.200 wait what if we change it like this uh some women do die in childbirth if the woman dies in childbirth

07:17:38.160 is she the primary victim or is the grieving husband's the primary uh the victim i guess i think

07:17:43.600 in this case since she died it's going to be both parties no no no well i'll grant you yes i agree

07:17:49.120 you know honestly death yes it's unfortunate but it's the person that's left that really suffers

07:17:55.680 i think we have very different i know i i agree with you there's a ton of suffering i'm sure

07:18:00.800 some of us have lost a grandparent or this sounds really logical but like yes like the person that

07:18:05.440 dies that's very unfortunate but they're gone it's the person that's it's the person that's left

07:18:10.880 that's very like they have to go through this because they're still alive so yes i agree if

07:18:15.680 the woman dies in childbirth then yes i think both sides are victims but there's same with the war

07:18:20.960 question but who's the primary yeah primary because if you're alive even though it's hard to live i think

07:18:26.160 they're both primary victims how when you can't come back from death you can always meet someone else

07:18:30.560 you can get counseling like you can create a community you can have support from someone who's

07:18:34.640 supporting a dead man he's dead yeah he's dead so he's not there anymore it's an unfortunate

07:18:40.240 it's an unfortunate instance so that makes him the primary victim because he's no coming back from

07:18:45.280 what he went through i'm just saying i guess we just have different opinions i don't agree i think

07:18:48.720 both both are it's very unfortunate that whoever dies dies to be fair but whoever's left also has to

07:18:55.840 suffer with the repercussions so it's both they're both primary victims especially if there's children

07:19:01.920 involved but there's a solution there's potential for solution for the person that's alive the person that's

07:19:08.080 dead is dead i feel like if you're at a funeral i mean it's the truth if you're at a funeral like

07:19:13.680 grieving someone you wouldn't think that you're the victim you would think that the person who died is

07:19:18.800 the victim hey hey honestly you've been talking way too much tonight can you try to keep it down no

07:19:26.320 i'm just kidding um thank you that was actually pretty good i guess like but we all have maybe experienced

07:19:32.240 either a grandparent or even a parent who's who's uh passed away and while these are like terrible

07:19:38.640 things and we like we do experience suffering uh we also like move on we can heal we can heal whereas

07:19:52.240 there's a possibility of solution there there is no possibility if you did you can't like he said like

07:19:57.280 eric said there's no resurrection you can meet someone you can meet people like you it's possible

07:20:04.880 there's no possibility if you did by the way guys we are going to get into the uh tts row tts row session

07:20:12.320 of the stream 20 tts they're going to be paused for just a brief moment but 20 tts if you want to get

07:20:19.280 one in and then let me let this one come in here yo techno techno trooper donated 100

07:20:27.840 ladies how can men stay relevant in modern relationships as trad roles shift give some

07:20:33.760 examples please uh how can men stay relevant you have something anisa what you got what you got i don't

07:20:44.160 even understand like what do you mean stay relevant let's get the mic that way a little bit she doesn't

07:20:54.800 i think we're trying to say is the fact that the roles have been reversed what value does a man have

07:20:59.600 traditionally in today's time when we're both you know exchanging roles when women make more like

07:21:05.120 what where can a man find value if his value isn't in providing anymore i think that's what he's trying

07:21:10.560 to say oh i think i kind of understand so here's the explanation he's asking how can men stay

07:21:15.920 relevant in modern relationships as trad rules shift so historically the way a man would make himself

07:21:22.800 attractive to a woman would be have a job be a provider but now that that's no longer necessarily

07:21:31.760 like because women are uh working because they're making their own money women aren't often like

07:21:39.680 looking at a man's career necessarily as like the ultimate thing that's going to make him attractive

07:21:45.120 whereas like back then like if a guy what like had a really good career that would like give him way

07:21:51.440 more points than it does today um and so basically the way men used to make themselves attractive was

07:21:59.200 like go out there be ambitious these can still be attractive nowadays but like it was like hyper like

07:22:06.480 number one priority is he a provider is he going to be able to take care of me now that uh women are

07:22:12.240 making their own money that's less of a means of a way that men can make themselves attracted to what to

07:22:18.400 women so now how can men like what what's the shift towards is it emotional intelligence is it doing the

07:22:26.240 chore what what is it i feel like nowadays i feel like nowadays it's like women are more attracted to

07:22:35.440 like money so i guess that still takes a part with what they do with their lives you know what i mean

07:22:41.280 i don't are i don't know if that's true i feel like we know like from the like previous panels as

07:22:47.440 well that um even like non-traditional women still find like traditional men attractive or like sure

07:22:55.440 the provider aspect so i don't think like anything needs to shift yeah i think they want traditional

07:23:01.680 incomes but they don't want you to be traditional in no other sense like laying the law and saying hey

07:23:05.760 we're not doing that they're not with that tradition they want that them bills paid that's about it

07:23:11.680 there's none in california unfortunately they uh they're only traditional in the sense that they

07:23:16.880 want a man to fund their lifestyle basically is that is that basically it i guess yeah because

07:23:23.840 that's how a lot of people are now it's all about money and stuff like that people are

07:23:29.040 people are really money by the way guys the roasts are our paws while we get through everything here

07:23:34.800 i think you've evolved since the show started i think she's evolved no i just spoke to rachel

07:23:39.920 yeah i mean she said what we said i mean she ain't said that we're gonna say

07:23:43.360 but you know good points it sounds better okay uh going on to the next thing we're going to skip

07:23:50.240 the gender pig app we don't have time um are women oppressed in the united states you said yes

07:23:57.040 michelle you said may half or no you said no actually you said no on that carissa you said

07:24:05.360 no okay chloe you said yes uh and then you said no uh how are just so those of you who said yes how

07:24:18.560 are women oppressed i'm actually going to change my response um based off of our discussion here

07:24:24.960 just because what we've used as a definition for oppression i don't think applies to women but it does

07:24:30.560 still apply to many women across the world oh okay sure it's america do what y'all want to do

07:24:38.160 well it's the same like you guys have changed my perspective a little like when we talked about

07:24:42.320 the racism sexism so i guess yes but then there is also places where women still face face oppression

07:24:49.040 like when like in other countries yeah well yes that and then also like the pay gap the okay

07:24:54.880 the gender pay gap um we won't here how about i'll give you one thing on the gender pay don't

07:25:08.000 give me a hypothetical no it's not too late it's not hypothetical but how about this and so there i

07:25:13.120 could say a lot of things about the gender pay gap for example differences when when they're talking

07:25:17.120 about the gender pay gap they're looking at uh all the work that women do and comparing it to all the men

07:25:22.480 all the work that men do they that's the uncontrolled gender pay gap that's the 80 cents to the dollar

07:25:28.400 that the men make and they're they're not factoring in things like hours worked seniority educational

07:25:34.640 achievement uh willingness to relocate types of job um negotiation all these sorts of there's other

07:25:42.800 factors that i'm not listing but those are some right and so uh but excluding all of those reasons for

07:25:50.720 why this gender pay gap might exist couldn't it be said that a lot of you here said that you want a

07:25:58.000 man to pay for the first date couldn't this entirely be explained away by the social pressure that women

07:26:06.080 put on men it's entirely it could entirely be explained away because there's not a asymmetrical or

07:26:14.480 corresponding pressure that men put on women to pay for dates or to be providers like no man like i

07:26:21.200 can't no man can really get away in the dating marketplace saying yeah you know i would like

07:26:27.920 a girl to pay for everything and to buy me gifts and i want to be a stay-at-home dad

07:26:34.640 no guy can really get away with that are there some women who are who would be okay who are like

07:26:39.360 hyper successful who i guess would be okay with the man staying home and taking care of the kids

07:26:45.760 i don't even know if like really successful women who have the means who have the ability to be like

07:26:51.440 yeah you can stay at home i got you i'll hold it down i don't even know if they would want to date

07:26:56.480 that dude i think hyper successful women want to date hyper successful men i don't know if they'd be

07:27:03.280 attracted to the guy who's like yeah i just want to stay at home and take care of the kids and i'll do the

07:27:08.080 dishes and i don't know if some women maybe but i don't even think really successful women who could

07:27:15.280 afford to have the stay-at-home husband the stay-at-home dad i don't think even they want that

07:27:21.760 i think the word you true you chose was wrong hyper successful women no but hyper masculine women yes

07:27:29.360 that that would be a fair statement but um i think the gender pay gap could be explained

07:27:36.800 not by anything like uh nefarious not by some patriarchy not by sexism but by women's own social

07:27:46.800 pressure that you guys individually apply to men as a group because if the standard is well hold on

07:27:55.520 i have to take i have to pay for a girl i gotta pay for the date that creates a pressure a dating

07:28:03.200 pressure of mating pressure that doesn't exist on you but exists on us and i'll know about like do

07:28:09.600 you think guys are pretty motivated by getting sex and getting a girlfriend i think this is i think both

07:28:16.480 men and women are highly motivated when it comes to finding a partner and dating right

07:28:25.280 fair fair to say yes perhaps it's the ultimate motivation in life find a partner have kids etc i mean

07:28:33.040 it comes down to i mean it's like base level stuff survive replicate that's base level like

07:28:42.160 i forgot the exact term for it but um

07:28:46.240 so should we blame women on the wage gap okay you guys just gonna sit there quietly and

07:28:53.360 that's it you guys want you guys want an energy drink or what's up it's just gonna let me bulldoze

07:29:00.240 you guys and not even provide a rebuttal okay pulling teeth women are the problem

07:29:07.440 i'm just kidding i don't want to get cancer in any case look in any case you guys you guys by your own

07:29:13.520 preferences of how you want to be treated in the dating marketplace apply a pressure a dating pressure on

07:29:18.960 men and i'm glad you think that way and i can see your thought process for like correlation where

07:29:26.320 it because as a result of women wanting men to pay you feel obligated to like make more money

07:29:33.680 we're more motivated why there's a wage gap is that what you're saying well ignoring all the other

07:29:39.600 reasons i listed just just really simplified but but even that single that single uh

07:29:48.480 component of it yeah i think that could explain away the wage gap completely

07:29:52.640 i think it's opposite because how would it be opposite there's already been a patriarchal like

07:29:56.880 society in place for like hundreds of thousands of years it's going to be real hard to overturn what's

07:30:03.120 been in set in stone what do you mean i'm not going to compare it to systematic racism but in terms of

07:30:08.000 some a system that's been in place for so long we're not going to magically overturn it so it's

07:30:12.880 not like us saying i want a guy to pay that's not something new if i said that 2050 no if i said

07:30:18.400 that 100 years ago you'd be like oh what do you mean overturn so you think that's a patriarchal thing

07:30:23.360 i don't think sorry let me rephrase that i don't mean overturn because i think that implies that a

07:30:28.240 new system should be in place wait but i mean reworking wait what reworking the system to make sure that

07:30:34.800 it's not patriarchal hold on what would need to be overturned about the individual dynamics

07:30:41.040 when it comes to paying you literally have all the power in your hand to overturn this on a

07:30:47.760 individual level you simply need to bust out at the end of the date your credit card and ask the waiter

07:30:55.760 i want to pay half you have all the power to do this are you saying that the patriarchy is oppressing

07:31:01.440 you and you can't tell the waiter like there's some patriarchal force in the ether that prevents

07:31:08.800 you from telling the waiter like the waiter is going to smack you across the face and be like

07:31:13.120 shut up woman how dare you ask for to pay equally you think that's going to happen well i wish that

07:31:19.760 would happen uh or absolute rejection obviously i'm joking smack you across the face obviously i'm joking

07:31:25.760 but since i was grown since i was like born and growing up i've been like taught like i mentioned

07:31:31.120 like pay for the date and it wasn't until recently that i'm like i'm making more money i'm obviously

07:31:35.120 treating my friends guy friends and girlfriends to a meal and this leads back into my beliefs on dating

07:31:40.320 where it shows a man after a man's efforts in terms of asking and planning and sponsoring the date

07:31:45.920 versus if i yeah ask and plan i will be paying for the date can i ask y'all this so is it more about a man

07:31:54.400 paying for a date or facilitating one because what if the date doesn't require him to spend money like

07:31:59.440 it might be just a free little festival or something like that it's just a matter of him just making

07:32:03.120 the effort for for y'all to do something not necessarily something expensive wouldn't this be

07:32:09.120 wouldn't this be like so the expectation that men pay for dates wouldn't this be like a sexist and

07:32:16.640 gendered expectation on men i mean i said it's possible to be sexist this is right no but what

07:32:23.280 i'm saying is like the expectation that men pay for first dates this isn't evidence of women's

07:32:29.040 oppression this would be evidence of men's oppression oh i just hold on men have always been taking men

07:32:35.440 100 years ago who was taking care of who okay 100 years ago women well 110 years ago women couldn't vote

07:32:40.960 does that mean that that was the right way for society to be no but okay who was taking care of

07:32:46.800 who uh men were taking care of women and so if that's ingrained in society and your grandchild your

07:32:52.400 grandpa teaches the grandchildren the grandchildren still have that idea in it so my mom taught me again

07:32:58.240 growing up okay a man sorry a man should pay for the day and so in my head that's in the back of my

07:33:04.320 head but but so the system that's been in place for a while but how about how about the system

07:33:09.360 then but why have we foregone well okay you as the woman your duty i'm not this isn't my position but

07:33:17.760 like you're saying 100 years ago like why did we then get rid of all the expectations on women okay your

07:33:23.760 duty huh did we though no not all expectations but like for example there we could just say that there

07:33:29.440 was an expectation that women would not go out and go to college they would stay home and they would

07:33:34.160 have children there's no real expectation there why don't we invite the andrew's wife back

07:33:42.560 to add it on this conversation too okay i we're talking about like traditional values right so

07:33:50.000 traditionally the man is expected to pay that's how we were raised i could ask the same question

07:33:55.520 then don't you think it's sexist to women that men with high body count care so much about a woman's

07:33:59.760 body count that's the same exact thing because traditionally women are expected to have a lower

07:34:06.640 body count so i can easily say i can easily say hey you're being sexist because you have a body

07:34:12.960 count of 100 million and you're getting mad at a woman for having 20 that's this is the difference

07:34:17.760 though it's a lot of differences but for one we didn't fight for you to be have a high body count

07:34:23.840 you all fought to work so us questioning not you per se but us questioning women who's saying okay

07:34:30.000 you fought to work and you fought to earn money just like we have so why don't you pay for certain

07:34:34.960 things because your body of your body politic gender fought for that we never fought for women to be

07:34:42.800 having a lot of bodies so us asking questions about that is within our rights because we never actually

07:34:48.000 deviate from that women have fought to deviate from being traditional women they want to work so if you

07:34:53.360 want to work then why can't you pay for this and pay for that but as far as the body count thing

07:34:57.760 which i don't care about but i don't think it's the same as a man having multiple bodies as the

07:35:02.160 same as a woman had the multiple bodies because i just don't i'm just talking about values i just

07:35:06.560 think it's a double standard well i mean life is full of double standards here we'll move it on off of

07:35:11.200 the gender pig app but we we can get into that briefly i do need to let some chats go through

07:35:15.360 because they're about to fall off um vector donated twenty dollars this strange animated

07:35:23.360 clump of cells in chair one doesn't want to be a birthing machine which is hilarious it wants to

07:35:29.600 do whatever it wants even if in the most likely scenario it harms others i don't i think i announced

07:35:35.840 this after she left though so uh guys i know he's obviously not here but some of these this is not at

07:35:41.200 anissa vector donated twenty dollars chair one your eggs are crying in desperation yeah why do

07:35:47.760 you hate your as of yet non-existent children did your mom hate you what oh gosh no no this isn't

07:35:55.840 right i'm sorry daniel boss daniel queen what the fuck daniel nasuri i cannot trigger this but you said

07:36:03.760 chair one was totally i have to change it man because it's just it's too much uh chair one was totally

07:36:09.200 unbearable she is in her 20s it shows how delusional she is to think she wants to be a feminist high

07:36:17.200 horse at 30 years old okay uh hold on vector donated twenty dollars chair one should disagree more

07:36:26.640 i find her nervous laughter whenever she comes to a disagreement very cute brian could always make

07:36:32.880 a clip of her nervous laughter and use it whenever girls disagree jack underscore m donated twenty

07:36:40.240 dollars okay brian that random cheeks picture mentioned early in the show was actually a digital

07:36:46.080 seasons greeting from neverland brunch thank you we could see you eating that burrito in the reflection

07:36:51.920 earlier too i was not eating i was not eating all i learned tonight was that men are the primary

07:36:59.360 victims of women dying in childbirth that is true that is actually true um if i ever have a wife and

07:37:06.160 she dies giving birth to a child i am the victim and i suffer way more uh hold on this is good big sas

07:37:17.040 energy donated twenty dollars to be alive is to be accepting of suffering so would you rather be alive or be

07:37:24.080 dead is the dead soldier the primary victim for no longer being alive or no longer suffering

07:37:31.520 libertariat donated twenty dollars dark avia take and or find your meds please and thank you

07:37:38.960 lithium is your friend said my name too why get my name in there

07:37:43.280 oh they're right too daniel nosseri donated twenty dollars anissa successfully managed to undo the

07:37:51.760 disposable eyesore for the past five hours within 20 seconds please reserve chair number one for anissa

07:37:58.640 from now on to revert the natural instinct of vomit into adornment how hard is it to understand donated

07:38:06.400 nineteen dollars and ninety nine cents my mate recently passed away i'm heartbroken his brother

07:38:12.880 and parents are absolutely heartbroken we are all grieving at our own pace my mate robbie is the

07:38:18.960 primary victim his life taken away too soon sorry to hear that man rest in peace robbie food for

07:38:23.920 thought donated twenty dollars if a woman is pregnant but passes from childbirth and the father survives

07:38:30.800 and raises the child to adulthood who suffered more the wife is gone but the family must live on with

07:38:36.720 the painful memory master malvoliant donated twenty dollars hey dominant girl in the middle let me

07:38:45.760 educate you male is the dominant sex which is where the term dominant is from which makes you as a woman

07:38:53.520 submissive by nature it's biological your response but i'm not so fuck off oh

07:39:00.720 whoa whoa okay there's there's that feminine energy again uh let's see

07:39:08.960 techno trooper donated twenty dollars ladies christmas is coming up have you bought your

07:39:14.640 partners a gift yet is it expensive anissa did you buy your boyfriend uh i have not bought any gifts yet

07:39:24.080 who else anybody else no everybody here's single i bought one forever alone this is the most forever

07:39:29.200 alone panel uh although she might she might who knows by christmas time it could be yeah because

07:39:37.520 he bought me one so i was like might as well i just got him a rug that's good oh oj simpson donated

07:39:44.160 twenty dollars and sixty nine cents chair seven i haven't heard anything you've said but i'd like to

07:39:50.720 extend to you an invitation to a party in my pants no thank you are you in or are you out too late you're

07:39:57.520 already in no thank you pass daniel nostri donated twenty dollars a well-known side effect of std

07:40:06.880 virus lead to mental problems this includes depression in its mildest form and total insanity

07:40:13.200 in its most extreme sadly men have fd the brains out of them joe murphy donated one hundred dollars

07:40:22.960 just to clarify surviving in the forest is based on who can contribute more between genders and

07:40:28.960 animals it has nothing to do with nonsense feminist ideologies hopefully that clarifies the equality

07:40:36.080 yo uh joe murphy i do appreciate that uh surviving the forest is based on who can contribute

07:40:42.960 it has nothing to do with that's fair he has he has another one coming in here

07:40:47.600 joe murphy w's in the chat for joe murphy guys murphy donated one hundred dollars hypothetically

07:40:53.680 speaking we can have an entire generation of americans who believe that racism started in america

07:41:00.080 as if western society didn't contribute to ending the slave trade lol thumbs up all right that is a

07:41:07.120 good point that's a whole another conversation that is also i mean there's the barbary slave trade

07:41:11.840 which was like um what you know about the barbie wars what do i know about what you know about that

07:41:17.200 man yeah uh yeah i mean a lot of white people being uh enslaved for a long time um and uh we have

07:41:25.280 a couple more i'll just let through now um cornholiux donated twenty dollars why have bangs on except

07:41:34.320 for comedic value watching her try to answer is like being forced to watch the movie idiocracy ten

07:41:40.480 times in a row ghost logistics donated twenty dollars bears have powerful jaws that crush bones and

07:41:50.720 tear meat very true they start eating you from the chest or hip regions then eat the entrails and

07:41:56.240 other vital organs bear equals you propagandized don't ask me for help jack underscore m donated twenty

07:42:05.280 dollars chair number six and number seven you are both beautiful women number seven tough love here but

07:42:12.640 pull your head out of the sand don't hold the candle wish i could ask bangs if she was mad squirrel

07:42:18.960 about this cat call a mad squirrel about this oh oh he did i see yeah oh we should have had her we

07:42:26.400 should have done a midway row session it is what it is um we didn't get to it in time but um we have a

07:42:34.320 couple more things to get through then we're going to try to wrap this up hopefully as soon as possible

07:42:38.880 um so oh hold on i'll let these come in why not roth donated twenty dollars and this is eyebrows ten

07:42:48.160 tenths dark avia looked good in the helmets that's hard to do bangs left so we can't have roast turkey

07:42:54.880 for christmas oh seven brian you going daggers or swords daggers i always played daggers world of

07:43:01.520 warcraft rogue daggers 100 daggers um it's just i think it's more fun it's more fun you know backstab

07:43:08.080 it's yeah whatever uh let's just say vasectomy advivate donated twenty dollars when these guys

07:43:15.920 get owned on body count they just say well life's like that it's 2024 why talk about backward stagnant

07:43:24.240 relationship dynamics when literally no one thinks slash acts like this troll podcast i mean there's

07:43:30.400 plenty of like really uh really strong arguments when it comes to the body count discussion and why it

07:43:36.080 matters in fact it's something that's been studied in fact why don't we just pull it up really quick

07:43:40.560 damian can you pull up the discord it's in the like i forget the exact tab it's like research body count

07:43:46.240 i think it's like down low it's i think research body count there's a body count channel yeah go ahead

07:43:57.280 pull that up huh yeah yeah scroll up all the way to the top we i won't read every single one but there's

07:44:04.400 like they've studied this okay wait hold on we're gonna i is it control can you do control uh plus sign

07:44:16.160 no it's the it's the plus above the number or next to the number control plus

07:44:23.200 that yet again again at the very top you see those two very top very top yeah to the the the two hide

07:44:37.840 nope three over nope in the middle no next to the search the two people the two p hide that okay uh so

07:44:46.640 these are a bunch of studies you get if you guys want it's on our discord uh so these are studies

07:44:52.000 that are all done promiscuity and infidelity just scroll down we don't have time to read all of it

07:44:57.040 but like these are all studies that pertain to like why body count matters why promiscuity is an issue

07:45:03.280 how all the negative impacts it has on relationships keep scrolling there's infidelity concerns there's

07:45:11.280 pair bonding concerns there's the greater likelihood of divorce greater likelihood of reporting relationship

07:45:17.440 to satisfaction this is it's not just like it's not just like a bunch of bros making this up it's

07:45:23.520 literally been studied by uh academics so yeah but that's only that oh those those could go for like

07:45:31.200 if you're like looking for into a partner but if you're just around then why does any of that matter well

07:45:37.120 what do you mean why did what yeah like if it's like infidelity and like uh issues that you have

07:45:43.040 with your past like you know what i mean like like what like it just affects you from bonding with

07:45:47.840 people period whether you want to be in a heavy relationship or not even if you want to be in

07:45:51.360 a situation you can avoid stds by using like strap we're talking about that part we're just talking

07:45:55.520 about the mental effects of it because like when some woman has two to ten partners that decreases her

07:46:02.480 pair bonding ability by forty percent no it doesn't i know that okay okay you single right

07:46:08.720 yeah she's she's currently hooking up with a man who cheated on her repeatedly

07:46:17.600 you think how old are you i'm 23 so you think if you at this rate by the time you get to 35

07:46:22.240 by the time you get to 35 36 it'll be easy for you to bear with um bond with somebody or harder

07:46:27.120 i think easier okay well i i think it's about that i don't really think it's going to be easier

07:46:32.480 or harder i just think that because it can't be easier or harder because the type of person that i

07:46:36.800 am like i like i'm a lover girl honestly i fall hard when i fall so it could be anyone so but that's

07:46:43.440 even more reason why that's going to be an issue because if you fall hard and you're not but you're

07:46:48.720 like i like when i people i've slept with that i fall for them no it's i'm very picky on who like

07:46:53.200 oh it is but no i get what you're saying but i'm saying i can't allow myself to fall if you fall

07:46:57.760 hard and you're not staying with them that's going to desensitize you but i'm not the problem let me

07:47:03.040 just say that i'm not the problem it's never it's never y'all but i'm saying no i have been only in

07:47:07.280 two relationships only two yeah i mean that's cool those relationships lasted very long i haven't

07:47:12.240 i haven't been single in the last seven years because i went from one relationship and then got into

07:47:16.800 another one i have only been really single in the last seven years this year like so that but and

07:47:22.080 that's but i'm saying that's a lot of chose to be single that's cool but you 23 with that yes

07:47:27.440 exactly like live your life we are you 23 with that um tedious relationship you've been through

07:47:36.560 that has if you keep doing that over and over and over that's not going to make you better at it

07:47:41.120 because to give so much to somebody and it doesn't and it ends without y'all being together to me what

07:47:46.560 what did you get yeah no i know i get what i get what you mean by like saving you're like saving

07:47:50.800 you're like and getting to know someone and like not just giving it up you know what i mean like

07:47:54.320 i totally i totally get that i ain't even just talking about sex but it's your time your energy

07:47:58.080 it's like you keep doing that and you're intimate and it's not getting to a place we are together

07:48:02.320 that's not going to make it easier in the future is what i'm saying we'll we'll come back to the

07:48:06.160 probably for the guy about body count but i just want to let a couple chats go through

07:48:10.160 we care it just is what it is honestly yeah no oj simpson's is this for you chloe

07:48:16.400 chair seven i do not like the way you responded to me your invitation has been rescinded and is now

07:48:22.880 being offered to chair two my second choice love the pot brixton i what is this for a date he wants

07:48:29.840 he's asking you on a date i guess i don't want to be no second choice oh shit you should have

07:48:34.960 should have shot your shot first at uh at uh yeah at what at chair two

07:48:43.840 at elise no i bro i can't read cursive bro look at your penmanship is terrible it's lc else wait but

07:48:53.920 that what's your actual name lc that's your government name yes e-l-s-i-e oh you didn't want my autograph

07:49:01.600 my run that's cool okay uh we have more coming through libertariate donated twenty dollars for

07:49:09.200 you eric no roast you are hella based thanks for holding it down and making sure that people

07:49:15.200 don't get out of line yo w's in the chat for eric weric in the chat eric not jay

07:49:22.640 wood donated twenty dollars i am gonna take a guess here you all own or will own cats who owns a cat

07:49:29.120 i own two i have three actually i own a dog who thinks they will own a cat i'm allergic huh i'm

07:49:37.760 allergic to cats but i have a dog i have a dog a niece is going to be a cat lady there you go all

07:49:42.240 right i have a choice donated twenty dollars call me crazy but i think chair the fifth of maybe a few

07:49:49.520 rachel wilson lectures away from being salvaged rachel definitely got the mvp today what does that mean

07:49:56.480 oh we already lost her snap more donated nineteen dollars and ninety nine cents they want men to be

07:50:03.680 vulnerable in the same convo who hurt you who hurt you feminist indoctrination broken women who are

07:50:11.760 going to hit the wall how can you look better when you're older ha ha ha ha ha ha all right we have uh

07:50:21.680 this guy again vasectomy advivate donated twenty dollars brian obviously created this website

07:50:29.120 garbage i bet every girl here has never been asked her body count well so there's a couple things

07:50:34.800 there uh one yes i did create the discord but all those studies that are you can look them up they're

07:50:40.960 not fake studies you can look up the studies uh if you need to go back we scrolled down through all of

07:50:46.640 them so yeah it's my discord i posted all the studies there i agree and as far as uh every

07:50:53.600 girl here has never been harassed her body count even if that was the case that the girls here have

07:50:58.720 never been asked their body count uh that still wouldn't preclude men from caring about their body

07:51:04.560 count whether they asked or not so yeah true i just want to i would just prefer not to be asked like

07:51:13.360 personally all right twenty dollars god bless you brixton i pray that your journey towards christ

07:51:20.560 continues 2025 may you have a blessed year to come jesus christ is god amen thank you man appreciate it

07:51:28.320 thank you thank you bro techno trooper donated twenty dollars thank you five small boobies still cool

07:51:34.240 just make up for it in bed yikes yikes

07:51:41.520 no

07:51:41.920 it's okay thank you man i do like them wild and bratty more fun when they kneel huh there you go okay

07:51:53.280 uh let's see here we got this one clap trap 69 donated twenty dollars you guys are a bunch of

07:52:04.240 scallywagger daggers daggers it's pretty simple male and female also most debates are generalized

07:52:12.720 majority over minority women of the panel define a woman please okay going around the table um define

07:52:21.600 what is a woman i guess we we kind of skip anisa right because she's just like she's just filling in

07:52:27.840 for i guess a woman is someone who has that type of genitalia and the chromosomes for it okay what is a

07:52:37.840 a woman um sorry like my brain is a little fried um sorry could we come i don't know like what we can

07:52:54.560 come back what is a woman the opposite of a male the way the woman is the opposite of a male so a female

07:53:03.920 yeah a woman is a female sure about that one yes for no i i agree with you i agree with you but

07:53:12.000 oh my gosh no i don't want to cancel oh my gosh you're not no are you asking objectively or like

07:53:16.880 characteristics that's why i was frying no if you decide if you just like no one you guys aren't no

07:53:22.560 one's gonna cancel you nobody's gonna cancel you um darkavia dj dj uh i would just say yeah like

07:53:32.400 that's based on what you're born with genitalia and chromosomes okay from what i've learned today

07:53:40.000 oh a woman is a singular version of woman oh that's a good answer all right uh going back to you

07:53:48.560 anything it's a one gender out of the two if we're being objective like what is a woman

07:53:55.600 sex like male and female are you that's what i'm fried it's like are you asking like characteristics or

07:54:05.760 like no just what the definition of a woman is i don't know why you're shaking your head could you

07:54:11.760 give us a definition please the fact that we got to ask this question and y'all supposed to be

07:54:16.800 college educated is crazy as hell to me like a woman is a woman has breasts she can produce milk she

07:54:22.560 can have a baby come out of her body point blank period the fact that this got to be like uh the

07:54:28.080 fact that answering what a woman and male is without the fear of being canceled shows you how far the

07:54:34.640 society is i'm not i ain't talking about you i'm just saying like it just seemed like it took a lot

07:54:39.520 to say what a woman is and this and you ain't the first you ain't gonna be the last it's just funny to

07:54:43.360 me when i see women like have trouble with that question it's like yo where the hell are we this is

07:54:48.240 doyle though okay techno trooper donated twenty dollars chair two is that lip gloss you keep

07:54:55.440 putting on who's it for um it's for no one i just don't want my lips to be dry what are the things

07:55:01.840 on the teeth is that yeah so is it called bejewel no they're tooth gems so over here is a butterfly

07:55:08.480 and then over here it's a heart you should get a grill i thought about that actually i think what

07:55:14.320 you want to give her your grill can art can grill no they have to be like no yeah you can't just

07:55:21.040 i mean you can't buy a grill on amazon i mean you can but it's not going to be as authentic or as good

07:55:26.400 as a natural grill fitz most yeah get a grill get a grill man we want to see with that we got

07:55:34.400 sorry for putting a lip gloss on though leroi jenkins donated twenty dollars

07:55:38.160 all right that was great thank you guys all right a few more things on the questionnaire then we're

07:55:56.560 gonna wrap if there's any more roasts that want to come in guys twenty dollar tts if you want to get

07:56:00.400 by the way five hundred dollar uh fifty percent off on the champagne pops if anybody wants to pop

07:56:05.600 actually i don't know half of y'all can't even wait no only two of you can't have champagne so

07:56:11.600 whatever all right um to wrap up on the whole like are women oppressed in the usa like can anybody anybody

07:56:19.120 how are women oppressed give me one example in the usa didn't we already say that oh did we

07:56:25.920 all right so okay do women have equal rights to men in the usa to which you said no which was

07:56:34.080 regarding the pay gap michelle you said no carissa you left that blank so i'm sure why it's no chloe

07:56:43.280 that's a no uh

07:56:50.240 so you guys think there's not equal rights in the usa well what i was answering or like

07:56:55.520 it's like pertaining to yeah was the just that though anything else nothing else

07:56:59.280 um i mean that was like the basis of michelle i think it might be a little bit of power dynamic

07:57:09.280 but honestly i'm a recruiter and like pay gap it's getting a lot better because like i know comp ranges

07:57:15.840 and stuff i've never had an instance where the hiring managers were like oh pay this person less

07:57:21.360 it's more so a matter of experience um it's getting better but i still do think

07:57:29.840 more work could be done but i think we're very lucky to live in the states compared to other countries

07:57:35.840 you're talking about the pay gap okay is there anything besides the pay gap i mean you said chloe

07:57:40.720 carissa carissa did i get your name right

07:57:53.360 bro heaven forbid these girls go out to bars and clubs and stay out till 3 a.m but it's 12 30.

07:57:58.880 i don't go out okay my for sure um anything chloe on the mine is primarily with the pay gap just the

07:58:07.120 pay gap uh did you get the private chat pull that pull that up really quick um here while while he's

07:58:14.240 doing that i'm gonna let this one come through get that pulled up for me oj simpson donated 20

07:58:21.280 all of you 304s are uninvited to my pants party you've treated me disrespectfully and embarrassed

07:58:28.560 me in front of my peers you can't comprehend what you just missed out on shame you guys missing out

07:58:35.600 big time on that he's a giga he's a giga chad from earlier nobody likes you when you're 23 and

07:58:42.480 are still more amused by prank phone calls what the hell is call id my friends say i should act my

07:58:49.760 age what's my what's my age again i got you w thank you man uh speaking of the wage gap i want your guys

07:58:58.480 thoughts on this go ahead pull it up uh median weekly earnings of full-time workers white men versus

07:59:03.600 asian women thanks so us so yeah w's for asian women outperforming white men

07:59:13.440 you know what i feel like it's as a white man i feel oppressed by asian women why so the wage gap

07:59:24.160 what about other races other other races what about latino women what about black women if they're

07:59:30.240 earning more than me i feel oppressed i think even white women might be out earning oh this guy okay

07:59:37.680 hold on but it is interesting y'all asian women y'all y'all killing it thank you i don't know about

07:59:44.720 wajian women though i don't know what it's like you're part white but part asian i don't i think wajian

07:59:52.560 women are also probably killing it okay um all right we got a pop a champagne

07:59:59.760 donated 500 just at the prop crazy can you grab me a champagne probably won't partake because the

08:00:05.600 prophet peace be upon him doesn't approve but he needs it to deal with college educated mujeres that

08:00:12.320 can't define a woman yo libertariat guys w's well because you're muslim right and i they can't muslims

08:00:19.680 can't uh drink oh wait can you get me uh one of the german ones the schlossen i don't drink anybody

08:00:27.040 who here wants some champagne i don't drink no darkavia i'm gonna sit when i took my darkavia

08:00:32.400 i'm tempted but i i only drink if i already got a doy i can't get another one oh i only uh i'm okay

08:00:38.320 really so you'll have some yeah all right two two cups one podcast sweet thank you damien uh we got

08:00:47.600 two cups here we're all good on the cups can you get me a paper towel all right it's just you and me

08:00:52.880 eric illa illa sophical getting wasted with not about to get wasted off no champagne but i bear i'm a

08:01:01.840 lightweight so i don't drink so i mean i'm i'll have three sips and i'm you don't do the brewskis

08:01:06.800 i don't drink the only time i drink is if somebody does a champagne pop while i'm opening this up uh

08:01:13.680 wait hold on let me pull this don't the bitch body count now donated twenty dollars so if brian is not a

08:01:21.600 christian then be on good faith and reveal your body count dot you've had literally hundreds of women

08:01:26.720 being honest dot is it zero men can lactate how did you know men have breasts i'm a virgin

08:01:32.480 i'm a iq question i'm i'm a virgin techno trooper donated twenty dollars i don't raise your hand if

08:01:39.280 you are okay being a sugar mama raise your hand anybody want to be a sugar mama no anybody yo guys

08:01:48.480 w's in the chat for libertariat this guy big champagne pop at the end of the show

08:01:53.200 volient donated twenty dollars hey middle chair it's okay to have small boobs it's the shape that

08:02:00.640 matters octor to vita octor yeah i'll pull up there we go um i guess it's not the shape of the

08:02:11.600 boobs it's the i'm gonna give you as much as i can man it's just you and me

08:02:15.440 the shape of the boobs it's the beer that that's what the chat says it's the shape it's the shape

08:02:23.200 that matters it's okay to have small boobs it's got to be proportionate to the body

08:02:30.560 you got it's got to be proportionate all right let's do a cheers to uh libertariat libertariat

08:02:35.440 uh cheers to you sir cheers to you salu salu

08:02:45.600 oh ah fuck oh my dude i don't drink i don't drink

08:02:51.680 whoo okay already drunk all right let's get through this as quick as we can man all right

08:02:57.920 um the equal oh uh we pulled that up uh okay whatever there's i guess they believe that there's

08:03:05.040 equal rights then um is it wrong for age gap i don't know if that's very interesting um we're

08:03:10.720 gonna skip the age gap one uh is it wrong this one came up before uh michelle you kind of touched on

08:03:16.960 this is it wrong for a high body count man to prefer to date low body count woman i think you

08:03:21.440 sounded like you were kind of objecting to that no i don't think it's wrong but like i just think

08:03:28.560 if you're gonna care so much about a woman's body count you should also have a low body count

08:03:34.720 okay um i mean i guess my quick response to that would be there are plenty of things that

08:03:40.560 women desire in men that they don't possess themselves so like i don't think i don't think

08:03:47.040 it's hypocritical but just to be clear i'm not in favor of male promiscuity but i don't think it's

08:03:51.520 actually wrong if a guy has a high body count to prefer to date a woman with a low body count

08:03:55.440 because there's all kinds of asymmetries when it comes to what men want and what women want there

08:04:00.880 are certain things that men want in a partner that they don't possess there's certain things

08:04:04.800 women wanting to partner traits whatever it may be that they themselves don't possess for example

08:04:11.200 i don't think it would be hypocritical or i would fault a woman who was broke if she was attracted

08:04:15.680 to and wanted to date a billionaire um whether she can get a billionaire or not is another question

08:04:23.200 but i don't i don't think it would be hypocritical uh or for example a woman who's like

08:04:28.800 she can't even run like a mile but she's wants to date a professional athlete that's true um

08:04:36.960 or a woman who's not a professional athlete who would date a professional athlete a woman who didn't

08:04:41.280 even play junior varsity in high school in any sport no problem if she wants to date a professional

08:04:47.280 athlete a woman who's not funny if she wanted a lot of women want to date men who are funny

08:04:56.800 don't think as a woman if you're not funny there's nothing wrong with you wanting to date a man who's

08:05:01.360 funny that's fair and this is a this is very commonly stated preference in women they want a

08:05:06.400 guy who's funny whether they're funny or not is up for the woman in specific is up for debate

08:05:14.080 i think we both got to deal with double standards yeah at certain points you know what i'm saying it

08:05:17.600 just comes with the so if you're a guy and you have a history look i'm not again not in favor of

08:05:23.200 male promiscuity yeah you know what if it's better for men to date low body count women if they have

08:05:28.480 more satisfying relationships because the woman has a low body count this woman is more loyal

08:05:33.840 um or it's just whatever he has no reason for it at all he just wants it no problem whatsoever in my

08:05:39.520 view and i and i also think that it takes effort for a man to get body counts it's yeah it's hard

08:05:44.720 y'all don't have to do nothing it's easy for y'all so we have to actually have some type of personality

08:05:49.840 doesn't based on her uh her body count if she's gonna be loyal or not like i mean no but we never

08:05:55.200 said that what we said he just said that he literally just that just came out of his mouth

08:05:58.400 being loyal if she got a hot body count oh yeah dude i have never cheated never on my life i've never

08:06:04.480 cheated i've always been cheated on there's something wrong with me well maybe you should see a doctor

08:06:09.120 about that oh my god uh he's diagnosing everyone today i am literally so you have a hot body count

08:06:15.760 my body count's 12. going around the table what's everybody's body count two if it's less than a

08:06:24.240 hand that's four and a half what do you mean half just the tip just next just for a second just to see

08:06:35.360 how it feels that's my movie wedding crashers love that movie body count oh zero i'm a coxman

08:06:42.320 yeah zero zero you know what i got a couple for you hold on how about this he's a brave and a decent

08:06:48.400 man he's a pioneer and then i also dude i've got wait hold on i have erroneous i do have erroneous you

08:06:56.160 heard that one you gotta get the coxman what about this one yes grab cake and football nice that's

08:07:01.680 what maryland does what's that from old school no that's that's when when the crashers during the

08:07:07.840 rugby scene um or the football scene the football scene body count two two okay 12 12. just say zero

08:07:16.800 say zero no just say zero though into the mic if you can zero uh i prefer not to answer this

08:07:23.520 question range you want to do range no not because i don't want to save it no i'm okay i'll give you a

08:07:31.200 two dollar bill it's just that's information that the person i'm with needs to know nobody else here

08:07:35.840 all right that's cool uh is it more than 10 or less than 10 i'm not answering okay okay but is my

08:07:41.440 body count high and but when i like i lost my 23 yeah but i lost my i lost my virginity to the

08:07:46.960 boyfriend i was with for five years how old were you i was 16 so is it 12 different guys or 12 times

08:07:53.760 12 different guys no 12 yeah but it's also i i count women too oh yes oh so you got like 15

08:08:02.640 like it's 12 in total and men and women yeah

08:08:06.080 um i mean it's not the worst i don't think it's honestly for like california

08:08:16.480 b minus but like i've like i've only been i've only been with like two people here

08:08:21.120 since i moved to california but but like some girls put up 12 they're like freshmen first freshman

08:08:28.320 semester first freshman quarter of college so like it's not a low body count but it's not like

08:08:37.680 at 23 it's not like the worst you know yeah i don't have it planned i don't it ain't the worst i

08:08:42.880 don't plan it going up i just sleep i just sleep with the same people because of that reason so you

08:08:48.080 just stay with the x's you just submit a block or just like the people i just i just slept with and

08:08:52.720 they just like just keep them on my little rasta but what about what they're doing uh yeah but i use

08:08:58.320 protection it's not like it's not like a raw dog that no i use protection there you go she uses

08:09:04.560 protection you know they got some some um birth control coming out for men oh my god that'd be

08:09:09.600 so good some shoulder gel or some which i would never take shoulder gel yo i haven't heard about

08:09:13.680 that they said it's some little gel they're making that rub on your shoulders which i'm scared to take

08:09:18.480 because if i'm rubbing on my shoulder and it's traveling all the way down here that's a lot of

08:09:22.480 traveling to get down here like they ain't got no knee grease or some shit like well i i interviewed

08:09:27.280 the guy who's developing it's called well they've changed the name but it's called vasal gel

08:09:32.560 so and this has been in development for over a decade uh basically it's an injection into the

08:09:37.600 vas deferens so the the vas deferens is the tube that carries the sperm from the testicles out to the

08:09:43.840 um and they inject a blocking thing that physically blocks the sperm from going through the tubes so

08:09:51.680 you don't ejaculate no you still ejaculate it's just blocking the sperm but the other stuff can still

08:09:58.800 because there's the the most like the majority of the splooge is not sperm it's like i think it i could

08:10:07.520 be wrong but i think it comes from another wait yeah no this it comes from a different stuff is like

08:10:12.560 what keeps the eggs alive the little sperm thingies that's what keeps them alive so they can like

08:10:16.800 that's stay warm and stuff right now that sounds scary all right just get a vasectomy and say

08:10:23.520 fuck it uh vasectomies are probably well anyways um but uh big w's to uh libertaria for the big

08:10:30.560 champagne pop here at the end of the show i'll try to get a few more sips in before we wrap up

08:10:34.320 i do appreciate your uh very very just you got it i'm gonna be drunk off this you really gonna be

08:10:40.240 drunk over here you finished it here pound pound the pound the no you pan the champagne bottle

08:10:45.200 i gotta drive man i'm not this is like though none of y'all drink maybe if it was earlier in the

08:10:54.160 this is like it's like soda yeah it's 11 alcohol maybe i'm just 11 i'm being very very vulnerable in

08:11:00.800 from in front of the women now because i'm i'm reacting to the the thank you like seven percent

08:11:09.840 what is the 11 alcohol content and i'm like these girls are probably like like she's looking at me

08:11:16.240 she drank right she's like man this guy's a fucking bitch he's all i think her social battery is on like

08:11:23.360 five percent eleven eleven percent ship you's a bitch brian i think it's like i was doing shots of

08:11:29.600 everclear son i also find it attractive when people can't hold their okay good talk good talk

08:11:35.280 you know like because you're attracted to like dudes that say soft or something i think you like

08:11:39.280 when guys show a little when i was making those faces like to for that one she was kind of like

08:11:45.040 she's kind of getting excited

08:11:46.320 uh let's see we're gonna skip over a bunch of these maybe one more i'll do um wait i haven't

08:11:57.280 even thought uh is getting laid easier for men carissa you're the only you were like made

08:12:02.240 you didn't respond to the getting laid thing no i didn't no do you is it what was the question

08:12:08.320 is it is getting laid easier for women and you said uh you didn't answer well i don't really

08:12:15.360 know anything you don't you don't know about that do you think it's easy for women to get sex or men

08:12:19.360 i don't know you don't okay it's okay she doesn't know she doesn't know it's women but

08:12:27.200 and all it is women it is women you know i don't think about that at all ever so watch here i'll test

08:12:33.520 this shit super easy all of you are single besides uh well you're all single uh

08:12:40.880 uh what uh so check this out uh lc is it lc this you definitely can't fuck up the name before

08:12:53.360 you're about to do um after the show would you like to have sex no after the show would you like

08:12:58.800 to have sex after the show would you like to have sex after the show would you like to have with me

08:13:03.920 no no after the show chloe would you like to have sexual intercourse no but thank you you're

08:13:11.520 welcome uh would you like to have sexual intercourse after the show carnal knowledge i'm okay she's she

08:13:17.440 passes that was hey that was i did not get laid would you huh have someone have sex after the show

08:13:25.760 no no i'm just asking because you asked us like obviously i'm asking i'm waiting for somebody

08:13:34.160 special okay so sweet you guys think you have a shot with me just kidding i'm kidding i put like

08:13:43.120 this y'all go home actually y'all got y'all got male friends or male buddies no i don't you got a male

08:13:48.240 friend if you told him you wanted to give him some here say yes just like that wait i agree if you said

08:13:54.160 hey i like yo buddy like i don't mean to come at you crazy but um i've usually been craving something

08:13:59.680 real like lately could you think you come and bless me he'll say yes with the quickness which means

08:14:04.800 basically we have a girlfriend you think that man listen how old are you your single single male

08:14:10.400 friend this month yeah you great baby he's still a hit trust me single if you ask your single male

08:14:15.840 friends most i'm gonna switch up another one of my guy friends are married well you're single

08:14:22.960 male friends you're single male friends it's not fair to say oh you're male friends who's in your

08:14:27.280 co-worker anybody anybody anybody all right we have a couple chats coming in

08:14:35.040 master malvoliant donated twenty dollars anissa give me a smile i know you want to

08:14:42.000 this camera right here smile there we go good job how about a wink how about you know what if you if

08:14:48.960 you don't do a wink you need to read um five pages of the kind of hat go ahead read it anissa go ahead

08:14:57.120 you gotta read five pages there you go

08:15:07.120 the sun did not shine it was too wet to play so we sat in the house all that cold cold wet day

08:15:12.640 i sat there with sally we sat there we too and i said how i wish we had something to do too wet to

08:15:20.400 go out and too cold to play ball so we sat in the house we did nothing at all so we

08:15:25.360 so all we could do was to sit sit sit sit and we did not like it not one little bit

08:15:30.400 okay keep going it's five page oh that's five pages yeah all right uh we have a few more chats

08:15:38.160 coming through uh i'll take it off we are gonna do the makeup removal segment um wait those things

08:15:45.600 work really good i didn't break out boom that's it yeah you're going out tonight we're gonna go get

08:15:52.160 food yeah you need makeup for that yeah i wanted to take cute pics too yeah so you you won't do it

08:15:59.040 yeah we were gonna take pictures together after oh can we do it now can you throw it to me i won't

08:16:04.000 take my makeup off yeah me too lucky boom anissa you want the make oh anissa's gonna do it boom

08:16:10.400 i will give you here how about take um uh chloe you want give chloe one please

08:16:16.400 all right boys makeup coming off so you don't want to you don't want to do the makeup all right

08:16:32.480 all right we i'm gonna let these chats come through while they're doing that keep an eye on the uh

08:16:38.320 makeup though

08:16:41.680 guess underscore who donated 19.99 seeing chair five's progress tonight made the loss of sleep

08:16:49.600 worth it thank you yeah i wish you the best we can fix our boys we got we got this techno

08:16:57.040 trooper donated twenty dollars ladies would you make your man sign a prenuptial agreement if you made

08:17:03.520 more hashtag oppression no that means you're literally agreeing that you guys are eventually

08:17:09.360 going to get divorced so i wouldn't or you could just step in lines donated twenty dollars if a guy

08:17:15.360 wants a low body count when he has high bc and he can justify it as a preference then woman can prefer

08:17:21.200 a guy who pays first day yeah no problem ryan is just immature and visualizes sperm in a rainbow

08:17:27.280 oh the stream labs changed it sperm in a the jj

08:17:37.280 because youtube i don't know justin martin's donated twenty dollars brian starts getting too vulnerable

08:17:45.120 better hide the burritos hey he wants to see that bro relax man chill out man damn

08:17:52.000 thank you though thank you just snap more donated 19 dollars and 99 cents bricks and getting white

08:18:00.000 girl wasted wasted are the gatekeepers of sex if it's hard for you to close your legs that's your

08:18:07.120 virtue men who don't want high body counts that's their virtue be less hoi w yeah w's in the chat for

08:18:14.960 snap more what a fucking legend can you guys uh i want you guys all to hold once you're done you got a

08:18:21.760 hold up spread the makeup wipe and hold it up to the camera it's so hard i can't see

08:18:29.600 i know i feel like i'm missing a spot

08:18:35.040 oh you know it'd be interesting if it if we had people do half face

08:18:39.360 like just only only remove it on half your face did i ever get something oh that'd be really good

08:18:43.600 like that you like a whole different person a little bit oh boy i only had fucking mess i only

08:18:47.920 had like a little bit concealer under my eyes yeah you hear that you don't look bad you just look a

08:18:52.960 little that's what he said you don't look bad i look like i just woke up hold it up to the cameras

08:18:57.840 hold it up to the cameras what you hold it up hold it up let's see the damage let's see the damn anisa

08:19:03.600 hold that up all right what do we have over here okay you used oh hold the other one up there's another

08:19:10.000 there's two you can't don't hide this but there's brilliant y'all don't even need makeup for real

08:19:14.560 shit y'all look pretty much the same without it you look so different without your glasses on

08:19:19.680 oh do i yeah like yours no you look at both but like wow okay so we did them okay i think that's

08:19:27.360 pretty much it we're gonna wrap up here in the next few minutes makeup body count we did all that

08:19:34.000 it's actually really uh i tried it last time i'm tired again break me out too uh eric any final

08:19:40.480 thoughts here before we wrap up the show or any other girls final thought before we wrap don't ask

08:19:46.080 women their body counts ask before you even meet them on the first date yes over text don't ask

08:19:52.000 men to pay for the date then boom i don't i'll be right back i have every right to say that

08:19:59.120 body count does matter but the whole world knows my body count now so y'all know we all together

08:20:02.960 family in the club we all fam yeah man so this is just all y'all first time this your second time

08:20:12.640 third fourth fifth okay okay y'all do content y'all have are y'all all content creators on your own

08:20:19.680 nah i'm like i'm an inspiring actress but i don't really say it i don't really talk about it but i'm a

08:20:26.960 i am a babysitter that's what i go by because that's how i make money so what's your secret talent real

08:20:31.920 quick what's my secret talent you know how to sing dance something last call along the guitar

08:20:36.400 i sing oh you can paint oh you talented in the mother what about you i can make a w with my tongue

08:20:43.600 can we see it let me practice let me let me make sure last call guys well you act if you want

08:20:50.080 yeah no my hidden talent i don't have one i'm literally not talking what about you get a roasting

08:20:54.720 singing somebody roasting okay what about you she needs to be a master for 60 minutes damn that's

08:21:01.120 what what's that what's their master good for you i can't last on that machine at the gym and it's

08:21:06.000 just like the stair machine oh yeah i'm probably the easiest person y'all ever meet y'all have no

08:21:09.520 like artistic talent like i could draw and paint i have a question for the two virgins is there like

08:21:16.480 a dude maybe it's a celebrity musician that you would like lose your virginity to right away

08:21:24.320 like cal like conan o'brien discipline conan o'brien maybe um burt reynolds

08:21:35.920 maybe burt reynolds bro they're 23 27 and 25 you don't know burt reynolds absolutely not you

08:21:44.720 gotta say something like chris brown i don't know if they pick look look look she's ready how about

08:21:49.840 somebody do you uh who's the who's the hot dudes now who's the new guys uh dylan o'brien

08:21:59.360 timothy chalamet oh she knows look she's she's jason momoa i know somebody who who you got i mean

08:22:05.680 i got like a my celebrity crush like who would you smash aaron taylor johnson he was in um aaron taylor

08:22:11.280 johnson aquaman he's my number one who the fuck is that guy i would do johnny dub who's who's that i

08:22:18.640 i don't care how old that man bullet train bullet train no oh the one from that the the asian one

08:22:24.320 like the is it a korean drama yeah yes fire movie fire movie so bad so good oh so you said johnny

08:22:31.040 deb i said johnny deb i don't care how old that man gets oh that's okay johnny deb is so so you

08:22:36.080 cool with the age gap then yeah i yeah what's the oldest dude you'll talk to at your age i'm probably

08:22:43.360 like 35 okay what's your oldest my oldest i don't have an oldest your favorite answers i don't know

08:22:50.800 you you funny what's your who's the oldest you'll date 32 33 and how old are you 25 it's okay okay

08:22:59.840 you you a baby yeah exactly i say what 23 for you maybe 23 22 okay yeah i don't know it's just like

08:23:07.600 we'd be in two different places like mentally and like with experiences a 23 year old kind of a 23

08:23:13.440 year old man kind of add up to 18 year old kind of work yourself out same era same we'll see it's

08:23:19.120 like maturity like men are more immature yeah 10 years okay okay yeah mine's about 10 years too okay

08:23:30.160 you know what eric what do you how about this we'll wrap the show we'll let the rest of the

08:23:33.920 chats come through we'll wrap the show with this what are you looking for in a girl and i'll also

08:23:38.000 do the same and then we'll wrap up you're not gonna do it last time you say you always say these

08:23:41.920 things at the last thing last minute then you're like i'm just never gonna say that oh i'll i'll

08:23:45.840 i could have sworn you asked me a question i don't know what happened but it's okay i'm gonna go with

08:23:49.840 it you said what do i look for in a girl loyalty consistency love peace humor a sense of style

08:24:00.400 um a good listener um know how to turn on the sex appeal but turn it off at the same time like i

08:24:12.160 don't want nobody that's showing everybody everything a strumpet some type of modesty

08:24:16.720 you know what i'm saying but just really just loyalty consistency and just understanding because

08:24:21.600 i feel like you know some women are just very hard to understand what a man deals with just

08:24:25.920 loyalty and understanding is the most important thing of course attractiveness and all that

08:24:28.960 but loyalty understanding that's my yeah that's a good list it's like i'll break it down into looks

08:24:34.320 and personality and i wrote this down so i could blast through it as quickly as possible all right

08:24:39.600 so like from a relationship and then i'll go into like the specifics of like what i want from an

08:24:44.480 individual girl so want to meet a great girl date for a couple years travel a bunch uh maybe end up

08:24:52.160 living in hawaii no big deal what the fuck chill out guys uh have her help me with my mission then

08:25:00.320 start having kids i'm thinking like a solid like seven kids would be pretty good like maybe pump out

08:25:06.400 like seven sons would be good that's my go-to number seven sons then we have a fucking empire we got a

08:25:13.680 fucking empire so we got a dynasty son that's what that's what i'm trying to do you know there's uh

08:25:20.240 i i'm not super religious but there's a really dope i'm gonna butcher this so bad there's a uh

08:25:27.360 christian a bible verse i don't know the somebody in the chat can help me it's about the arrow thing

08:25:33.600 like arrows or sorry it's that well no it's sons in a man's youth are like arrows in the hands of a

08:25:44.320 warrior blessed is he who has a full quiver that's fucking game that's fire son i you know what i mean

08:25:54.800 i had a daughter so i guess i got a slingshot you have a slingshot or a i was gonna say trebuchet but

08:26:01.840 that i was told that real men have daughters and boys have little boys you know what i heard

08:26:06.880 is like dudes who are like kind of players they end up having daughters it might be some truth to

08:26:13.040 that because god damn it like the the the player dudes i think it's some truth the super masculine

08:26:19.680 dudes have daughters because they know they're gonna teach their children what to avoid you gotta

08:26:25.200 be a player to know the game you feel me so but i think i think it's some truth to that because um

08:26:30.560 all the dudes i know that really been outside got a lot of daughters brian you're not christian but

08:26:36.800 do you like have the same views kind of like christianity views like or do you lean like

08:26:41.840 more conservative like with your views yeah i'd say i'm pretty conservative yeah is religion a deal

08:26:47.920 breaker like if you if he's muslim you christian or he you're muslim he's christian do you think that

08:26:53.360 matters in the grand scheme of things what a person believes or as opposed to what they how they

08:26:57.600 actually live because i could believe what you believe and not live how you live but that's if

08:27:01.440 they push it on you though like if they're like i think it shouldn't be a deal breaker how why does

08:27:06.960 it matter why does it matter um because then your beliefs need to align i've been already saying that

08:27:12.240 the beliefs will align you just don't believe in the same thing but how does what is what is an

08:27:16.960 expressed belief outside of behavior because i can tell you i believe whatever but don't i have to

08:27:21.520 live something because you got two well yeah you have to live up to your beliefs so you got two men you got

08:27:25.360 one man that goes to church all the time but he whoops your ass you got another man who don't go

08:27:29.440 to church but he lived christ-like yeah but then who you want to go with the one who believes what

08:27:33.840 you believe or the one who lives it well the one that aligns with my beliefs based on living or what

08:27:37.760 he say well by what he's doing his actions but what if you don't believe what you believe but he lived

08:27:45.040 like he lived like in the principal life but he don't believe what you believe but he he lives right

08:27:49.200 like anybody like he lives it but he don't he say hey i don't go to church i don't deal with that but

08:27:54.880 i live right well i want to raise my kids in the church and i want to raise my kids yeah to love god

08:27:59.520 and to follow jesus so i would hope that the person i pick and end up with follows that same lifestyle

08:28:04.960 i found the verse by the way i found it's like arrows in the hands of a warrior are the sons born in one's

08:28:11.520 youth and there's more to it but i don't it's not showing the rest did those dudes you dealt with

08:28:16.400 did they believe in jesus too yeah they did but i don't they weren't as religious as i

08:28:22.000 uh say i am so oh i forgot i forgot to finish oh yeah so it's like also like i just want to

08:28:28.400 i do want to take care of everything like i'm in the place where i can i can take care of everything

08:28:34.720 um i want i want her to help me when it comes to my mission and um but i'd be happy to have her

08:28:44.240 like take care of everything all the bills everything i'd want her to take care of the

08:28:48.880 children uh because i do think that is the most optimal instead of like throwing the kids in day

08:28:53.840 care uh throwing the kids into uh like having a nanny i think the most optimum situation when it comes to

08:29:02.160 raising kids is having the mother take what you don't you disagree or no no okay i do think the most

08:29:09.440 optimum thing is having the mom uh be the primary care caretaker taking care of the children 100 and

08:29:17.360 um yeah oh okay looks any race is fine but uh i slight preference for either asian women white women

08:29:28.240 or latina women but i'll date i'll date as long as whatever i'll date anybody um i slight preference

08:29:35.920 for like petite short whatever but i'll date i'll date a girl taller than me i don't get i don't

08:29:40.240 care i'll date a girl who's like six foot seven or she could be like five two she could be a dwarf

08:29:46.480 technically she could be like four nine whatever so you wouldn't date a black girl i know i didn't

08:29:52.480 hear that i would date a black girl but i don't think black girls want to mess with you i feel most

08:29:57.440 black girls i feel like that about white girls i feel like i'm too i feel like i'm too black for white

08:30:01.680 girls what you're too there's white girls love black man yeah they love a certain kind of black

08:30:07.360 guy they don't like all i'm telling you i've been studying this if you notice this listen i could be

08:30:12.800 wrong if you notice this what no offense to white women they only i'm talking about the bad ones not

08:30:19.360 becky from the trailer park yeah the bad white chicks only deal with dudes who fit a certain

08:30:26.080 aesthetic that they associate with athletics i've never seen a bad white girl with a man a black

08:30:31.520 man who wasn't in tip-top shape think about it i have i've seen the club i haven't seen it i ain't

08:30:36.160 talking about no white girls who try to act black i'm talking about straight up becky from from the

08:30:42.000 suburbs yeah like they deal with dudes who look like they play d1 football or basketball you'd be

08:30:47.120 surprised that that white girl i i've seen people like i'm just like how did that black man pull that

08:30:51.280 white girl i'm like surprised wow that's kind of he must have had a bag probably because

08:30:57.040 some of the white girls but if you're in shape they go for that you got to be in tip-top shape you

08:31:01.280 can get a white girl you're not in tip-top shape uh what else no no i'm not in tip-top shape no i ain't

08:31:05.280 gonna front are you i'm close but not quite going back now i'm a natural body supremacist okay natural

08:31:12.960 body supremacist i don't want the fake the fake you know the the bbl and the fake titties nah

08:31:21.280 nah get out of here and then what else and then uh oh uh personality introverted prefer introverted

08:31:31.920 is pretty good and um introverted is a introverted the one that i prefer like i mean i'll date i'll

08:31:39.440 date an extroverted woman but i do probably prefer introverted because i'm more introverted so prefer

08:31:44.480 that yeah i want me an anime geek anime geek anime geek like like a weeb you want a furry i want all

08:31:52.320 the ladies i want me a nerd like you were up on a farm like this and now you want you want an uwu

08:31:59.120 what that what's a uwu you just put me up on a new word that you don't want the uwu girls that go like

08:32:05.200 that with their eyes oh i just want a girl who just ain't on the scene like you know i mean give me a

08:32:09.840 a nerd man wait can you do that again what i think yeah what else do they do oh they did like

08:32:16.160 they go like oh that thing sure that was good job is that did that do anything for you or no you know

08:32:21.520 like they sit on the computer they have like the little head the cats yeah not the weirdos but just

08:32:26.560 the one not the one that's too far out with all the piercings and all the and they have like the

08:32:30.560 anime posters i just want a girl who's who's more into being in the house than being in the street

08:32:35.120 basically okay a home body a home body couch potato yep give me that word okay um i have a

08:32:42.800 bunch of other shit but i'm tired i don't know uh modesty is good i guess you know doesn't party

08:32:48.640 doesn't drink doesn't do drugs all that stuff um oh undivided romantic and sexual attention from the

08:32:55.680 get-go that's kind of big like i don't want to date a girl who's like even if she's not sleeping with

08:33:00.800 other men she's dating like five other dudes don't like it but if she's certainly if she's sleeping

08:33:04.960 with another guy that's a deal i got a quick question for you i want to see my little brother

08:33:08.880 the other day he'll be watching now do i look 44 no you somebody told me i look like i'm 43 you

08:33:15.680 don't look a day over 29 yeah black don't crack

08:33:20.800 unless you do crack no then it'll shatter play that cricket all right how old i look give me a number

08:33:27.440 29 i would say i would say at the like the mid 30s yeah i would say 32 i don't have my head

08:33:32.960 gas so don't gas me i say 32 32 i'm sorry 32 32 i know i'm sorry no it's all good all good 32 you

08:33:40.320 said okay thank you how old are you i'm 39 i'll be 40 next year yeah i would say 32 i appreciate that

08:33:47.920 oh what the frick all right guys uh so last call on any of the chats last call i'm what the i'm sorry

08:33:55.200 guys my offline what the hey okay my laptop's tripping cox again fucking cox goddamn cox okay

08:34:03.680 here i drive back to la wait what was your question again about the age it's really

08:34:06.560 oh it's not coming through the frick you know what i'm saying dude how old you thought i was

08:34:10.560 did i turn the wife off like wait like how old you'll date yeah the oldest you'll date yeah

08:34:14.800 okay sorry i thought you asked me a whole other question okay i would go for like a

08:34:19.360 like 50. 50 50. you go girl you go girl i just want to get that clear a man's lesson is a woman

08:34:27.840 that's half his age plus seven years how do you feel about that brian with the the ideal one is

08:34:34.080 the honorable elijah muhammad said the ideal mate for a woman a man is a woman half his age plus seven

08:34:40.160 years how do you feel about that so if he's 40 it would be 27. you think 27 you're on a 40-year-old

08:34:47.280 is an ideal mate could you see yourself i don't know at 40 sure i think the logic makes a lot of

08:34:54.080 sense i i think it's kind of true i like young women personally wait i thought you were not about

08:34:59.280 the age gap stuff no i said at 40 i'm not dealing with a 21 year old okay yeah yeah but if you over

08:35:05.520 25 and up yeah you can get it you can have it okay all right there you go there you go hey cool

08:35:12.640 cool cool all right uh i think i got this back working i'm gonna let the final chats come through

08:35:17.680 final call guys on the chats then we're gonna wrap master malvoliant donated twenty dollars

08:35:22.720 the most beautiful woman is the one who wake up and looks like she had hell of a night

08:35:29.360 he kind of right oh wait what does he mean because yeah i i know what he's saying i'm pretty with no

08:35:35.280 make or more that's when you're prettiest i hope you don't take it wrong you know drake told you that

08:35:39.440 that jerk thing wait i don't know if is that a drake clear yeah it is not what he said but he was

08:35:44.400 alluding to something that drake trap 69 donated twenty dollars a vasectomy is the best type of

08:35:50.960 birth control verify i'd in the anatomy of a female rainbows surveys uterus and fallopian tube

08:35:59.920 ps clap trp 69 is nothing to do with gender or sex it's borderlands yo clap chat thank you for the uh

08:36:07.680 the message man i really appreciate it oh this one just a voice donated twenty dollars honestly girls

08:36:15.360 you all look naturally beautiful without the paint for real if you want a long-term serious man

08:36:22.080 take less of that stuff brian get rid of that belly yeah i'm working on the boys

08:36:26.960 y'all are pretty without the maker though y'all need that joe murphy donated twenty dollars

08:36:32.560 taking the beg advice from a lady that clearly has no idea on how to be humble

08:36:37.520 simply to take some world advice this is an example of how modern day feminism has brainwashed women

08:36:44.480 stay classy stay classy libertariat donated twenty dollars yo thank you man brian is essentially

08:36:50.720 christian because andrew will bring him into the antioch apostolic church one day

08:36:58.400 started coughing

08:37:00.240 choked on some butter libertariat donated twenty dollars eric with the base guidance from the

08:37:06.560 honorable prophet

08:37:09.680 islam brother all right

08:37:11.920 what's it what is the the greeting asala how does it go asala asala asala asala asala

08:37:19.840 alaikum or islam depends it's two different trains of thoughts you got the nation of islam you got the

08:37:24.560 more assigned temple of america but that's another conversation another kind of day you know what

08:37:28.400 i'm saying that might need a whole show you know it's a whole other side to your boy that

08:37:32.240 you don't even know about anisa there's two super chats i'm gonna have you read these

08:37:35.360 everyone cross your arms harder brian make this the penultimate show spare us and end it

08:37:43.520 yo cluster thank you man do appreciate the super chat wait what the should i wait hold on is that copacetic

08:37:51.840 uh is that

08:37:55.680 yo that's bulgaria bgn what what currency is that man bgn what currency bgn currency

08:38:03.280 one bulgarian bro that's you're abusing you're donating in bulgarian currency so 20 what is 20

08:38:14.320 that's bro that's below the threshold man i'm sorry dude i'm sorry wes watson uh but but thank you for

08:38:19.760 the bulgarian lev that's the first time we've ever received any sort of uh bulgarian currency okay go to

08:38:26.400 twitch really quick guys final thing twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub

08:38:30.880 twitch.tv slash check if you have a prime sub available for before we wrap here guys it's

08:38:35.120 six hours bro guys rude uh drop us a prime sub and a follow if you guys i think it's bugged it's

08:38:42.720 actually literally bugged because there's no way we haven't gotten one follower that

08:38:46.560 shit has to be bugged whatever drop us a follow on prime sub if you guys have one available guys like

08:38:51.520 the video please okay um i think that's pretty much everything we hit on everything boom boom boom

08:38:57.760 cool uh we're gonna do a twitch raid i'm gonna do the outro here right now real quick uh so gg

08:39:07.120 well played to the panel last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning

08:39:12.000 in tonight guys you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that

08:39:15.920 thank you to everyone who super chats donates and supports the show we cannot do the show without you

08:39:20.880 guys it's uh you know the show is fan funded uh so do appreciate it we're not doing like sponsorships

08:39:27.040 are not getting some crazy spotify deals anytime soon so uh appreciate the uh patronage guys your

08:39:34.400 generosity uh allows the show to continue um big thank you to the wonderful panel here as a long

08:39:40.480 show i do appreciate you guys thank you guys so much great panel uh we will be live again tuesday

08:39:45.520 at 5 p.m pacific got another great show lined up we got the great uh illa sophical

08:39:50.400 eric follow the page at illa sophical at illa sophical illa sophical radio and ladies i would

08:39:57.600 love to collaborate with y'all if y'all want to come on the channel and chop it up you're more

08:40:01.120 more than welcome to do so yeah so yeah i'll let me i'm out here any girls who want to be on the show

08:40:05.360 you can dm at whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara oh seven's in the chat we're

08:40:09.200 gonna do a raid over to let me see who's playing i think we only have a few options here i think we're

08:40:16.080 gonna do frost adamus if you can get him pulled up here is that all we got uh joker d just went

08:40:22.640 online but we're gonna raid frost adamus he's playing hardcore he's playing world of warcraft

08:40:28.720 he's an orc warrior pull that up all right guys thank you for watching on twitch i'm gonna send

08:40:32.640 the raid over here in just a few seconds mute the audio just right now just because he's playing music

08:40:39.280 all right guys uh he's romanian he's playing world of warcraft he's in unguro crater playing a

08:40:45.440 orc warrior hardcore so i'm gonna send the raid right now thank you guys for watching on twitch

08:40:49.280 hope you guys have a good night all right that should be sending you can unmute it here just

08:40:53.200 temporarily i'm just going to talk over this bullshit track oh look at that pterodax he's

08:40:58.320 killing a pterodax isn't that so amazing wow look at that no it's uh i don't know the name i mean

08:41:06.240 rpg all right there it is okay cool that's welcome everyone welcome all right you can exile that

08:41:12.160 okay cool let me just double check no we're all caught up on chats i'll cut up on everything okay

08:41:18.240 guys uh oh sevens in the chat oh sevens in the chat i hope you guys have a good night

08:41:23.440 and we will see you guys on tuesday hope you guys have a good night

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