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00:01:46.120 guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location so where you're from and

00:01:51.980 occupation go ahead hi my name is sophia i'm 21 and i'm from chicago i am a streamer and i do a lot of

00:02:00.160 social media influencing all right welcome hi my name is aaron aka straighterade i'm originally from

00:02:08.040 south texas but now based in miami beach i'm 25 and i work for progressive victory which is a pack

00:02:14.060 dedicated to helping get progressive politicians elected to office all right welcome back hi i'm

00:02:20.040 savannah i'm 20 my birthday just happened 26 i'm 26 i'm from la um and i'm a clothing designer slash model

00:02:31.040 okay welcome hi i'm pixie i'm 24 i currently live in miami but i was born and raised in puerto rico

00:02:39.860 i also work with progressive victory in the streaming operations helping connect streamers

00:02:44.800 to legislators to help pass progressive legislation so yeah here i am all right welcome back hi i'm

00:02:51.880 angel i'm 19 i do social media and i am a piercing apprentice okay got it hi i'm tina snows i'm from

00:03:00.040 dublin ireland i'm 25 and i'm a content creator on social media on only fans i also work with

00:03:07.040 productions on adult movies um and i'm also involved in influencer boxing scene and i've just started

00:03:13.980 streaming on twitch you do any boxing yourself or you're just involved in the promotion started

00:03:18.600 training i took it up two months ago because i've already done the ring ring girl i've done ring walks

00:03:23.000 so i'm taking training now and seeing where i can go maybe 2024 you'll see me fighting in the ring

00:03:27.660 got it okay um hi i'm molly little um i'm 20 and i'm a porn star and i do only fans

00:03:37.000 i'm charlie um charlie kirk honored to be here and i run turning point usa and also host a podcast

00:03:45.740 the charlie kirk show and have a youtube channel that good stuff sweet from arizona age i just turned

00:03:52.520 30 so i'm getting too old for this stuff oh wow okay well okay 30 i'm 30 when was your birthday

00:03:57.160 october yeah great so what we're gonna do is we're gonna go around the table once more what is

00:04:03.160 everyone's current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship friends with

00:04:08.780 benefits relationship married polycule uh how long have you been single if you're single what's the

00:04:14.420 longest relationship that you've ever been in starting with you go ahead i am single um i've been

00:04:20.140 single for about i would say four months now and the longest relationship i've had would probably

00:04:25.840 be a year all right i'm taken i'm in a relationship with my boyfriend like in cooks and we've been

00:04:33.220 together for five months and this is my longest relationship and my first relationship congrats

00:04:37.620 there you go um i am in a relationship um what was the other question what that's your longest

00:04:45.820 oh longest two and a half years i'm single like pringle i'm looking date um my longest relationship

00:04:54.260 was like three to four years you said longest relationship was three to four years yeah and is

00:04:59.580 this a new relationship for you okay because i think last time you were on you were not in a

00:05:03.580 yeah okay got it uh so how new is this like a month or so uh oh if you can can you scoot into

00:05:10.360 the table just a tad oh is there no space that's fine um how new is the relationship uh not even a

00:05:17.540 month so okay could i have you scoot your microphone that way just a tad no other way oh yep perfect

00:05:22.880 what about you i'm single i've been single for a year and my longest relationship was a year and a

00:05:28.500 half all right um i've been single for about two years a little bit over two years um my longest

00:05:34.580 relationship is between six months and a year yeah and they usually always kept with that i've only had

00:05:40.280 like three relationships and they never last longer than that i get bored too easily i guess

00:05:44.480 you get bored too easily i think i don't know and you said from six months to a year you seem a little

00:05:51.820 uncertain about the length of your longest relationship is that a bit hazy in the sense of

00:05:56.760 was it on again off again is that kind of what you're it wasn't really on and on and off but it was

00:06:01.920 kind of like we dated for six months and then we were in a relationship okay for a couple more

00:06:05.940 months so the total kind of being in a situation and dating and stuff got it can be up to a year

00:06:11.080 yeah okay molly what about you um i'm in a relationship it's been 10 months and my longest

00:06:17.360 relationship is about a year all right charlie what about you uh happily married uh it's going

00:06:23.340 we've been together for five years and we'll be celebrating our three-year anniversary in may

00:06:27.180 and we have a beautiful daughter all right well i think um you know you're being the only married

00:06:33.640 person here i think that's perhaps a good jumping off point i think a lot of people both men and

00:06:38.220 women they're kind of frustrated with the current dating landscape do you have any thoughts on this

00:06:43.320 what's your diagnosis and any solutions and we'll go we'll open it up sure yeah um yeah i think people

00:06:51.960 need to date with the intent to marry yeah i'm a big critic of hookup culture in its current form

00:06:56.240 um i believe sex should be sacred and is sacred and it's it's really way thrown away way too

00:07:02.680 generously in this society and culture um and i can tell you i'm super blessed i have the best wife

00:07:07.200 in the world we have an amazing life um building a family is the coolest thing ever and i my prayer

00:07:12.920 for all of you is that you one day can do that it's that's so cute it's um it's honestly the most

00:07:18.240 joyful thing and i you know i've had some pretty amazing experiences i've been very very blessed

00:07:22.020 very lucky you could say but very blessed is the word i would use and the greatest joy i've ever had

00:07:26.660 is coming home to my little daughter running up to my leg there's nothing that even comes close to it not

00:07:31.220 flying on air force one not meeting with presidents that's all that pales in comparison to your little

00:07:37.360 girl coming up and squeezing your leg okay got it uh does anybody else have any thoughts on that with

00:07:44.900 uh you know yeah so i just wanted to circle back because you said something that caught my attention

00:07:50.460 and i disagree with it um because you said something like um i hope all of you can like

00:07:56.980 experience that and like you said something like i hope all of you can experience that and i mean i

00:08:02.080 don't disagree with that i hope we can all experience joy in life like that that's amazing but

00:08:07.280 i just feel like i don't know why you said it that way like maybe we're not going to experience that

00:08:17.160 because we don't have the same values as you is that what he said from the i don't i don't think

00:08:22.680 that's i don't know that's not the impression i got but i'll if charlie wants to answer well if i

00:08:26.760 said it that way i didn't mean it that way um but do you feel and is that a goal that you have to be a

00:08:33.640 mother uh oh uh okay the p star is giving charlie a covert whoa okay all right okay okay okay all right

00:08:44.320 uh moving on no but but molly do you think that keep it is that okay no no sorry go ahead go is

00:08:51.740 that is that a goal that you would want for in your life to to be a mother 100 okay do you think that

00:08:58.760 in your self-described current line of work that that is is more or less likely what do you mean

00:09:06.200 by likely like i mean maybe you can tell me more about your your line of work what would you like

00:09:15.380 to know um do you think that it's going to create a a good happy family in the future

00:09:23.940 um right now i'm working on it yeah me and my uh boyfriend are doing really well in our relationship

00:09:31.720 and honestly i think contrary to what most people would believe i think um being in porn has

00:09:39.940 strengthened us what why is that i i've never heard that i'm yeah what can you tell me why so basically

00:09:46.820 like being in porn and having sort of like this open type of relationship where you can have sex

00:09:55.840 with other people um obviously there are certain boundaries in the relationship but it really makes

00:10:02.300 you think about um you know what's important why you love this person and you know you start to really

00:10:09.000 hold things true that are deeper than just sex and i think that on top of that you can share sex

00:10:15.880 with other people together and that's really bonding that's really fun are you ever worried that

00:10:21.040 you do you ever get jealous of him if he has sex other people yeah oh you do yeah so how does that

00:10:27.860 strengthen your relationship um because we're able to talk about it and i think every time that i bring

00:10:34.380 up a concern and he's able to soothe it and we're really able to like work on that bond it just makes

00:10:41.540 it stronger have you ever when you were having sex do you ever think it's more than physical

00:10:46.480 that maybe there's emotional and spiritual connections you might be introducing no so it's a

00:10:53.460 purely physical experience yeah see for me sex is more than physical it's actually that's the least

00:11:00.340 part of sex for me because i get to share it with my soulmate it's my best friend it's definitely a big

00:11:05.640 energy exchange yeah it's a big energy exchange and so molly i would ask respectfully you know

00:11:11.120 wouldn't you want to only share that energy exchange with the person that you love most and want to have

00:11:16.500 children with um i think sex can exchange different types of energies so like you can exchange an

00:11:23.320 intimate type of energy or you can exchange a really passionate like horny type of energy you can

00:11:29.660 exchange dull energy during sex you can exchange manipulative energy during sex sex can be

00:11:36.040 used for a wide variety of things and i think the biggest one is like marital spiritual connection but

00:11:45.800 you can't deny that there's other benefits to it as well if you if you could never if you could be with

00:11:53.520 your boyfriend currently and i waved a magic wand and i said you can make a million dollars a year and

00:11:58.300 never do porn again would you no okay period okay what are you making more than that a year molly

00:12:09.940 uh not yet oh well then i mean aren't you doing that that's your profession so i assume you're doing

00:12:17.500 that to make money correct yeah 100 well but charlie just has a magical wand he's got that's not the

00:12:23.160 wand um he's for the sake of argument he's used the wand you can make a million dollars a year

00:12:28.280 you don't have to do uh you know the adult content well the thing is i wouldn't have to do it that

00:12:33.620 would be great but i would still want to do it i'm i mean personally like i'm an exhibitionist i love

00:12:38.900 like putting my sexual self out there for other people to see for other people to like you know

00:12:44.760 touch themselves to have fun with huh can i ask you a question since you're about presenting yourself to

00:12:51.860 the world do you have a good relationship with your father okay here we go no i don't talk to him

00:12:59.100 i'm not surprised yeah i actually think it's principle that you said you wouldn't give it up

00:13:05.640 just for money because that shows that you do it for reasons beyond just like financial ones that

00:13:09.180 shows you have like a genuine passion and interest in it grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars

00:13:15.040 in other words sex is whatever she needs to make believe it is at the time she needs to rationalize

00:13:21.280 it it's called whole logic oh i wouldn't use that language but um molly what i would say is you seem

00:13:27.700 like a sweet person maybe something to think about as the years go on that maybe sex should just be

00:13:33.440 saved for the person you love most i would ask you or the panel what would your definition of love be

00:13:38.580 me and the whole panel or just anyone i mean that's just the fundamental question with dating right

00:13:43.320 is that a tough question guys what is kind of yeah yeah it's a very complex answer you know what we

00:13:49.840 let's go around the tables oh no it's great it's great it's great we'll go around the table uh do you

00:13:54.860 want to answer so your question is what is love yeah that is a that's a song too it's a good song

00:14:00.580 yeah or how would you define love because i think how do you define love shouldn't that

00:14:04.740 could we all agree that's probably a good goal of dating to find love do we all agree on that yeah

00:14:09.160 yes so we'll start with you we'll go around the table if you guys want to give your answers for

00:14:15.040 for that go ahead i feel like love is an emotional connection between two people that value each other

00:14:22.900 and accept each other for who they are i feel like that's what love is i feel like real love is when

00:14:29.180 you find kind of i guess things you don't like about the person you're with and you still

00:14:34.880 choose to be with them and grow with them either way i feel like that's real love i feel like that's

00:14:41.260 more of a romantic type of love i feel like love is something that's going to transcend just romantic

00:14:45.340 relationships and i would say it's like an emotional bond that exists between human beings

00:14:50.360 and i say human beings just to specify that i don't think it exists between people and things

00:14:54.420 because i think that's kind of materialistic plan life thank you for the gift at 50 memberships

00:15:00.340 appreciate it sorry go ahead aaron go ahead uh just that i think love is a connection that exists

00:15:04.620 between people not things to get away from more like a materialist understanding of like people

00:15:09.840 saying like i love my car i love this item or whatever i don't really think that constitutes love

00:15:14.180 but other than that i would not be able to really define it it's a question that philosophers have

00:15:17.960 been debating since the beginning of time i don't know that it'll be on this podcast hold on

00:15:21.520 donald trump donated 200 i'm pleased to announce charlie kirk is my big announcement it'll be the

00:15:28.660 best big trump kirk 2024 tremendous we will make america great again for the record i'm not old

00:15:37.280 enough oh you're not old enough to be the vp pick okay i thought we had a whatever exclusive here

00:15:42.240 charlie kirk 35 the vp pick okay i'm sorry aaron go ahead no just that okay what about you i agree

00:15:49.040 with both of them so i like i don't really have anything else to add okay all right yeah there

00:15:54.720 is different types of love obviously we don't feel love for our parents the same way we do with a

00:15:58.920 romantic partner friend or friends yeah but with that being said i would classify love as a deep

00:16:04.420 connection and emotion that you share with someone and also kind of like really hoping for the best for

00:16:10.880 that person for who they are and their future and just like what you hope you can do together as

00:16:16.180 well okay um i agree with them as well i think love is accepting someone for all of them not just

00:16:23.700 the good parts um and i think that it should be like unconditional if you're going to love someone

00:16:29.700 that it should be you know the good and the bad that's a tricky one for me because i have a hard

00:16:36.600 um i'm difficult to kind of deal with the term love and things around i'm kind of scared of it

00:16:42.920 um but i feel like the main type of love that i like to focus on is just the self-love like as

00:16:48.460 the rest of the girls are saying there's so many different types of love you can find in a partner

00:16:51.640 but i feel like i don't know i couldn't imagine myself loving someone unconditionally but myself

00:16:56.980 sure i can find ways can i can i ask a question absolutely go ahead um why do you think you you're

00:17:03.480 afraid of love i don't know what it is i think maybe the commitment it's scary love is like yeah

00:17:09.120 it's scary isn't it would you say other people are you afraid of love i i feel like you feel that

00:17:14.420 way i feel like people are afraid of happiness because happiness isn't long term you can't stay

00:17:20.040 happy forever especially with the person it's not always going to be perfect so i feel like a lot of

00:17:25.960 people are scared of love because i feel like well let's say you're in a relationship with somebody

00:17:31.540 right and i guess the best thing you can hope for is to end up dying together it's no matter what it's

00:17:37.720 never like forever lasting so i don't know i think that's how it is and it's also scary because like

00:17:44.320 if you give more to someone and they like don't give it back like that hurts a lot i think i think

00:17:53.240 honestly that's the most beautiful part about love because true love um doesn't really care whether

00:18:00.880 you're loved back um it hurts if you're not loved back but you're still going to love that person or

00:18:06.360 yeah yourself or whatever um but i think that love in general is just a deep understanding and

00:18:13.360 acceptance of a human being yeah the uh the greeks had four words for love english has screwed this up

00:18:21.660 so in greek the first word would be phileo which is the brotherly love the city of brotherly love

00:18:27.340 philadelphia right so we all know that what that's like to love a sibling right but that's a completely

00:18:32.280 different type of love than storge in greek which is to love a child which is my wish for all of you

00:18:37.800 it's a great thing as i said uh also there is eros which some of you may have had before which is

00:18:42.960 erotic we get the english word erotic from but then there's this he looked at me did you look at her

00:18:50.320 i i did kind of glance right in her direction right as you said that um so and then the last is agape

00:18:56.540 which i'm a christian we believe that's the highest form of love which you guys mentioned sort of

00:19:00.580 which is you would give your life for that person and that's a very hard thing right i would give

00:19:06.400 my life for my wife in a second and for my child and um i guess my question is and anyone can chime in

00:19:12.900 through the current hookup culture only fans is it more or less likely to get towards that

00:19:19.020 ideal self-sacrificing type of love yeah

00:19:23.580 i don't know personally i was just gonna say personally i think that a lot of people today

00:19:31.380 are so wrapped up and stuck because they don't know how to love themselves and that causes

00:19:37.620 you know a lot of stuff to happen and it can uh cloud your mind from really being able to um

00:19:46.100 what's the word i'm looking for pursue and look for a connection with another person and also with

00:19:52.260 like social media and like dating apps and stuff now like people are so used to like having options

00:19:57.460 and just like literally just having like whoever they really want to so it's like a lot harder for

00:20:03.860 people to be like i guess more serious because once

00:20:07.620 go ahead keep going keep going uh because like one i don't know like for a lot of people that are

00:20:15.920 into like hookup culture and stuff like i don't know i just feel like there's a lot of options and

00:20:20.220 people don't take it serious because there's so many people to choose from and like if they don't

00:20:24.000 like one thing about you they're like oh okay i'll just find someone else then like i don't know it's

00:20:28.360 kind of yeah but i think that goes in terms of like anybody not just only fans people yeah um only

00:20:34.840 fans obviously does get in the way of someone wanting to take you serious but i've actually noticed

00:20:39.160 only fans has got a lot more guys in my dms so when i post booty pic everyone is loving me

00:20:44.620 well do they love you or do they lust you well it's yeah probably more lust but it's still something

00:20:49.800 to feed my attention ego if if you could find a stable soulmate would you would you quit that line

00:20:56.120 of work if you were if you were totally financially supported similar to the question of molly

00:21:01.140 i mean anything to make me stay in bed all day so um yeah but in terms of a soulmate

00:21:07.960 i don't know like i would i'd rather myself be my own soulmate like i was raised by an independent

00:21:13.780 mother i haven't really seen much of a like kind of i guess a relationship but i also feel like you

00:21:20.480 don't really need it my mom has done everything for herself and for me and so i don't know i just i

00:21:25.840 feel like menopause as well i'm gonna get sick of them and i'll be in a marriage that i will regret

00:21:29.780 so sick of who if i get married so if i get married such a dark view of marriage it's a beautiful

00:21:36.300 thing everybody it's this exciting amazing no i i trust me i part of the problem is the culture is

00:21:43.260 so dark and terrible it is i will be perfect it's very hard marriage is very difficult it's the

00:21:49.600 hardest thing i've ever done and raising kids is even harder than that and i've done some difficult

00:21:53.600 stuff but it's by far the most fulfilling charlie do you think people should wait until marriage

00:21:59.160 to have sex ideally of course yes but i'm not here to judge people that i mean i'm not here to say

00:22:05.800 that you're a bad person or whatever that's i have my sorry can i just ask yes sure did you

00:22:11.200 wait till marriage yeah oh really it's the greatest decision of my life wow i would not be able imagine

00:22:16.080 you waited till marriage and you find out they have i had other i would hate that like i would be so

00:22:20.860 well there's more important things i think more important things well you can't leave it up to the

00:22:27.040 marriage day man sexual but let's let's play the other other side of it imagine going into

00:22:32.480 the bedroom on your marriage night and knowing that you both have each other for the first time

00:22:37.660 you never had to share that human being yeah true but then again i lost my sanity to a virgin as well

00:22:43.940 or imagine if they were really experienced and they were an awesome way and you guys also had a

00:22:47.400 connection that would also be really fun or if they're a man they might be thinking about other

00:22:50.580 women for the rest of your relationship i don't think men stop thinking about other women just because

00:22:54.400 they get married i really doubt that no matter no men men's minds are rather undisciplined you are

00:23:00.640 right that is true but they don't have other experiences or pair bonds especially for young women

00:23:05.800 with pair bonds are a real thing to compare that to but look i i will go back to what i said sex is a

00:23:12.140 very powerful thing we all agreed with that right and i think you have a tool one might even say

00:23:17.540 it can be used it could be abused it could be but in its ideal which i fully acknowledge it's very

00:23:23.980 very hard to do very hard very hard very difficult but should be a goal that i would like to see more

00:23:29.220 people at least talk about in a non-judgmental way that is worth aspiring to and it's not impossible

00:23:35.460 it's not impossible it's it's not popular but it's not impossible okay did you have a response

00:23:46.680 or i thought someone over here had a i don't think so i feel like i had something to say oh did you

00:23:51.480 have yeah sorry did you have more does does did any if you could wipe the slate i know this is

00:23:56.360 hypothetical that's okay well i remember yes i'm sorry you were saying that like oh if you only have

00:24:01.120 one partner you're not going to think about other people but i actually feel like that might make you

00:24:04.680 wonder even more yeah you'll be seeing all these girls online you'll be watching porn you'll be thinking

00:24:09.380 about all these other things and it's like all you have is one person and like i don't know i feel like

00:24:13.420 that would kind of open up a lot of curiosity yeah that would drive me crazy i would like always be

00:24:18.180 wondering what i was missing and like did i miss out on something good because i was holding out

00:24:22.380 for something that maybe turned out not to be what i thought it was yeah looking around i can't say that

00:24:27.320 i i think i'm missing much to be honest not around this table i'm just saying no not around this table i

00:24:32.620 just say the country just in general not around this table i just what am i missing um you know i have

00:24:39.420 a by the way is he missing anything yeah what erin is he missing i mean if you're saying if you're

00:24:45.180 saying that she's like the best you want to weigh in what's he no i i'm missing something no pixie

00:24:49.180 not every day is amazing but well obviously i think you're missing out on some good threesomes

00:24:53.580 yeah that's all i'm gonna say okay uh if that is the compelling argument

00:24:58.020 no then no i don't know why that's not working our audio look everything in life is a choice

00:25:03.100 i get to have a soulmate that i get to go on an adventure with and a beautiful daughter and

00:25:07.680 you get to have orgies you can still have a soulmate and a beautiful family and do porn

00:25:14.280 so molly

00:25:16.600 i don't think you're right um and if it works for you then you will definitely defy the odds

00:25:24.740 no i think it does work i think it can be proven that you can i know for a fact it works i have

00:25:29.480 friends with with kids and like friends who are in relationships getting married and

00:25:33.440 they're very prominent doing porn fucking other people having orgies let me tell you all that jazz

00:25:40.240 yeah let me tell you a true story about a young young lady who went to high school near here

00:25:45.720 when she started to get 15 her mom was a porn actress um and all the other boys would constantly

00:25:52.620 tease her and bully her because they would show pictures of her naked mother and it really really

00:25:57.720 hurt her do you ever wonder that for your future kids they might have to be confronted by that or

00:26:02.680 teased or ridiculed by your line of work i know they will be confronted with it but there's so many

00:26:08.780 ways to answer this question but honestly for one i don't really care because to me the way that i look

00:26:14.900 at it and the way that i'm going to raise my kids it says a hell of a lot more to me about the child

00:26:19.660 who is instigating negative emotions in my child because of what i do for work rather than my child

00:26:26.420 minding their own business do you ever worry that you might be producing content that could be

00:26:32.300 seriously damaging other people no okay charlie you were about to say a little earlier if you could

00:26:41.060 wipe the slate clean what was the question yeah if you could wipe this theoretically and re-virginize

00:26:47.620 yourself and and would you could you go back to the person you were as a virgin no no i love

00:26:56.300 who i am now i feel like everything happened for a reason and i i don't know i love who i am now

00:27:01.240 would i take back the people that i did probably but but yeah like you said it made like who i am so

00:27:10.460 no i think i would definitely do some things different um it's it's kind of ironic because

00:27:17.680 this probably isn't the answer you're looking for but if i was to start again i'd probably

00:27:20.420 lose my virginity for porn and do more porn things earlier on um but yeah that's just me

00:27:26.920 but there's definitely some body counts that i do regret just one night stands and all them lame

00:27:30.360 things but why what what what about they did did you regret just the just the one night stand they

00:27:35.580 weren't worthy or yeah just like bad time or like weird people or like you know you get too drunk and

00:27:41.720 you get in a situation you can't really get out of and stuff like that but um in terms of then all the

00:27:46.100 stuff i do for work i love that because that's like an art form for me so yeah i want to circle

00:27:51.820 back to something you said earlier where you said that molly molly's children hypothetical future

00:27:56.880 children could be confronted with like her work right and i think that that is not i don't think

00:28:02.220 there's any career path that precludes your child from potentially being confronted with what their

00:28:06.940 parents say like i know that you're involved in like political work and stuff like that do you ever

00:28:10.800 worry that things that you've said online or done or political actions that you've taken

00:28:14.500 might be like your daughter might be confronted by them by somebody who has like somebody's kid

00:28:18.680 who has an opposing point of view i feel like that would like do you ever worry about something

00:28:21.920 like that oh she'll definitely be confronted it's just it's not videos of me having sex online

00:28:26.260 no but you said like tons of controversial things right so do you expect that any of that could

00:28:32.260 like have negative effects on her well-being or like how she's raised or anything like that or

00:28:36.480 do you think um and i say controversial like neutrally and descriptively like objectively if your

00:28:41.640 views are polarizing that's going to incite conversation debate discussion do you ever

00:28:45.780 worry about like kids confronting her with these things and her not being prepared to know how to

00:28:49.520 answer them or maybe feeling like bullied or embarrassed yeah i mean that's that's a factor

00:28:53.820 of being in in public life for sure yeah and hopefully um hopefully i build her strong up enough to be

00:29:00.160 able to endure that right then i bet molly thinks probably the same thing right like this is that sort of

00:29:05.020 resiliency do you think public political commentary is morally on the same plane as filming yourself

00:29:10.380 having sex yes yes yeah i think people if anything it could sometimes be worse depending on what the

00:29:14.920 person is talking about you know i agree worse okay i think politics is definitely heavier than porn

00:29:19.620 you think politics does more damage than porn uh for the actual life like the world yes

00:29:25.740 her having sex with other men is not disrupting the world not just sex but filming it and

00:29:32.600 i think it actually helps the world because it gives them men a release of their semen that

00:29:38.460 they keep the girls to fuck them so they go jerk off to me i'm the lonely boys you know we're helping

00:29:44.360 them so also i feel like it's their choice to watch so it's you know it's not well i was also gonna ask

00:29:50.340 how kids would know that someone's mom is a porn star how would they know that internet's forever

00:29:56.800 can you scoot your mic yeah but um internet but why are i mean obviously kids what it would be a

00:30:02.820 parental failure basically like the parents are not monitoring their child's consumption of media

00:30:08.080 good enough and therefore they find porn

00:30:10.120 they give 200 for this i got some interesting uh i got some okay all right thank you uh thank you

00:30:28.480 for that um okay uh where were we i finished my thought okay do any of you think that a generation

00:30:37.300 of young men and having struggled with porn myself totally acknowledge it so no one have you jerked

00:30:42.040 off to me oh my god molly he's thinking i've never heard of you before so um that's the answer

00:30:50.260 because your wife is watching that's true i've never heard of you before that was kind of out of

00:30:56.980 pocket molly um okay um so charlie kirk your political commentator um can i say one thing

00:31:07.720 absolutely go ahead go molly i have sympathy for you i do you're trying to cope with the suppression

00:31:13.620 of your soul and filming yourself having sex with other men and filming it is not the highest and best

00:31:19.840 use of the talents that god gave you it's not and that is a talent god gave me well it's not the

00:31:25.120 highest and best use and it's not a talent because as i said in my belief it is should that should be

00:31:29.700 saved in a sacred domain we're not going to agree on that but i hope uh i hope you change course i

00:31:34.560 think you'll be happier and more joyful and i pray you don't have to suffer too much to realize that

00:31:38.600 well in my belief this is my most happy and joyful so if molly made like a huge pivot and started

00:31:45.820 doing politics would you support her political like runs and bids it's not a matter of politics i mean

00:31:50.360 i i just i want what's best for all these all of you here and i don't think filming yourself having

00:31:56.440 sex with men is the highest and best use of your talents in fact i think it personally has done a

00:32:01.660 lot of damage to a lot of young men um and don't take my word for it look and you can read the book

00:32:06.100 by gary wilson your brain on porn it is the number one drug in america right now and it it impacts

00:32:11.660 men definitely isn't healthy okay so it's not healthy so we agree so let me ask a moral question what

00:32:16.960 do you guys think of drug dealers that push fentanyl good people or not good people probably

00:32:22.940 not not good people so i mean that's if we agree that porn is a drug people hold on hold on a second

00:32:28.220 if porn is a drug how is molly not a either drug dealer or a drug manufacturer it's different levels

00:32:35.720 of addiction there's so many other drugs like weed is not fentanyl but we we agree well i wouldn't say

00:32:42.840 weed is fine but it is not as bad as fentanyl but to i mean there's there's different levels

00:32:48.920 do you believe porn is a drug i think it's an addiction a drug is a no so what is what does porn

00:32:55.500 do to the the male mind i don't know i'm not a male okay okay yeah it is the same biochemical

00:33:00.800 release as cocaine it's almost identical in fact it's even more powerful at times not to mention the

00:33:05.740 damage it does to their relationships and how it has to rewire their brain that that goes without

00:33:09.520 saying but i just i don't really see the the comparison with like fentanyl and porn though

00:33:15.600 because fentanyl actually kills people and it's highly addictive so i know right now currently like

00:33:20.740 porn addiction is not recognized and the dsm-5 is a legitimate addiction the only behavioral based

00:33:25.400 addiction would be drug addiction something like fentanyl or whatever every other type of addiction

00:33:29.480 is something that's like so that you can't or sorry not drug-based uh gambling that's what it is

00:33:34.340 gambling addiction is very real but i don't believe but porn addiction is i think you can have

00:33:38.820 impulse control issues with porn but that would be like any other thing that you could have

00:33:42.340 difficulty controlling like your consumption of so go ahead molly please so my my question is like um

00:33:49.380 i kind of have a comparison of my own and i'll try and sum this up as fast as i can but basically

00:33:54.000 when prohibition happened you know people said that alcohol it was not good for you it led to

00:34:00.540 deaths it led to arguments negative things whatever prohibition happened people still found ways to

00:34:08.520 have parties with alcohol drink alcohol speakies existed the only thing that happened was people

00:34:14.920 didn't stop drinking alcohol people started getting arrested and punished for it and it started

00:34:19.160 ruining people's livelihoods in that way instead of in a way that they have control over meaning that

00:34:26.360 they can stop the addiction by getting help at any time so my question is if you think porn is so bad

00:34:34.800 like an addiction like that what's your solution because if you're going to get rid of it it's still

00:34:38.700 going to exist well the first solution i mean can you at least agree molly that minor shouldn't be

00:34:43.800 viewing porn of course okay good so those for a reason yeah well the age verification is a little bit

00:34:49.700 yeah so let's let's talk about that utah and texas passed laws that porn hub sued that made it more

00:34:56.140 robust you had to actually provide an id and porn hub didn't like that because they said it would

00:35:01.020 limit their traffic so would you all agree that if there was robust id checking that would like 18

00:35:06.760 we can at least agree we could draw the line there yeah i think that's the normal age okay i i'm glad

00:35:13.020 glad to hear that um so on the other side though i mean i think we have to acknowledge that the average

00:35:19.580 american male spending anywhere between 45 minutes to 90 minutes on porn websites it's it varies i mean

00:35:26.780 this is a new phenomenon and i just want to reiterate it that highly interactive three-dimensional

00:35:33.600 video that triggers dopaminergic responses in the brain is unlike anything we've encountered the

00:35:39.780 science is still being studied and gary wilson's book is phenomenal on this your brain on porn

00:35:44.240 in fact it is the most used let's just say product we don't have to say drug product for young men in

00:35:50.360 this country and i guess you would all say that let me just ask you how many of you are thrilled with

00:35:55.380 the status of american men you think that they're strong and confident and they tell the truth i

00:36:01.580 love an american man as an irish girl okay well then you're the they're all Americans are silent

00:36:06.420 but hold on and i'm not going to say it's only because of porn because that would not be fair

00:36:11.760 but porn consumption does not make better men no you agree i agree 100 so that's where i'm just

00:36:17.820 trying to introduce in the conversation you said what is the solution so i would just say molly

00:36:23.500 my advice well my ask for you is you know for people to stop participating in it for that's

00:36:29.020 not going to happen because the money is so good but we should draw the line at 18 there should even

00:36:33.900 be it should be very very hard to access but to your point molly you're not wrong people would always

00:36:37.720 find it but we should we should try to draw a line in the sands somewhere especially with minors or

00:36:42.400 have some sort of you know we should have some sort of acknowledgement that this is destroying

00:36:47.100 parts of society and i won't say it's worse than fentanyl but in some ways it's very very sneaky

00:36:52.420 um a lot of married men watch pornography as i said i've had my own personal struggles with it

00:36:56.880 it's incredibly addictive it's incredibly um powerful it also creates depressive effects in

00:37:02.500 about half of the men that consume pornography and i would just say that you know young ladies it

00:37:08.760 affects women differently than men men are 50 times more visual oriented than women and that's not to

00:37:14.100 say that women don't consume pornography they they do and increasingly higher rates but i i think it's

00:37:19.440 it's a social toxin right now i don't think that's anything hold on just charlie cook enjoyer donated

00:37:25.800 two hundred dollars hey charlie just want to say thank you for everything you do you are a force

00:37:33.180 for good in america great to see you on the whatever podcast question would you ever consider running for

00:37:40.020 office that's it's so scripted uh no not anytime soon but thank you for the two hundred dollars to

00:37:46.500 wait i have a question for you actually just because i don't really like know who you are but

00:37:50.880 there's like a lot of you're very lucky okay i was just like what do you do because i've seen like

00:37:55.980 you've mentioned politics and now that like what i i run an organization uh called turning point usa

00:38:00.960 i'm a conservative if you haven't figured that out uh and and a christian and i host a three-hour

00:38:06.060 show every day okay in my name so okay cool yeah let's uh i envy you that you don't know but yes

00:38:12.540 i'm totally fine let's uh switch gears a little bit here so going around the table asking all the

00:38:18.560 girls here would you date someone who does not align with your politics so if you're a liberal would

00:38:24.100 you date a conservative if you're conservative would you date a liberal if you're a communist would

00:38:28.040 you date an anarcho-capitalist i guess i don't know um so tell us what your political orientation is

00:38:35.660 going around the table and if you would date somebody who differed from you politically and if so

00:38:40.140 why not starting with you go ahead um honestly i feel like i it wouldn't be that big of a decision

00:38:51.360 for me i wouldn't mind i feel like i'm not that um strict about certain things and i feel like if i

00:38:58.860 if i want to be with him i'll be with him and accept him for whatever it is and maybe maybe even

00:39:04.320 try to i guess well no we can't agree to disagree i feel like on certain things i might actually

00:39:12.480 i'm too indecisive never mind where do you fall politically um undefined okay undefined i'm not

00:39:20.500 going to say it okay anarchy anarchist maybe i don't know not even a hint um maybe you guys can pick

00:39:29.440 up randomly okay that'd be fun i don't know okay what about you what about you yeah i'm fine dating

00:39:36.940 somebody who disagrees with me politically i already do my boyfriend's like a liberal you know

00:39:40.580 which is uh filthy filthy liberal even though i'm you know further left than him but i love him in

00:39:44.900 spite of that so okay so what if you were to put a word to how you would describe yourself politically

00:39:51.580 are you a leftist yeah i'd say i'm brought like on the left and your boyfriend's liberal okay what

00:39:56.560 about you um it it kind of depends how i honestly on both sides it depends how like hardcore they are

00:40:05.480 because a lot of like hardcore like stuff like that i don't even agree with like on both sides

00:40:11.080 so it would kind of depend on like what they believe in or like how hardcore they are with it

00:40:17.180 but i think i could i don't really i mean i'm always down to have like discussions and conversations

00:40:23.060 so i think i could uh as for my like political i don't really care you don't care i i would say

00:40:29.800 i'm like in the middle honestly who did you vote for in the last election or did you vote most people

00:40:36.860 don't vote i i regret i regret my vote now but we we couldn't biden unfortunately kanye you vote for

00:40:45.020 kanye i that would have been a better choice honestly no i voted for biden unfortunately and you

00:40:52.020 regret that i do why do you regret that uh do you see the state of the world i mean like smart

00:40:58.080 that's why i'm just in the middle do you want to share i agree with like stuff on both sides

00:41:04.620 good for you pixie what about you i'm a progressive um my last day actually lasted 20 minutes because of

00:41:12.000 this um oh wait we have the tweets nick pull up her tweets really quick i saw your tweets the

00:41:17.060 receipts about that we have the receipts nick go ahead how much money is in your guys bank account

00:41:21.720 no they we had like a youtube video randomly start playing nick

00:41:28.960 okay i'm convinced i have to move from miami just so i can actually find someone to date next

00:41:42.380 today my date lasted a total of 20 minutes because he found that i was progressive and that he was

00:41:49.740 conservative next like at least it was a mutual decision on both of our eyes to rather figure out

00:41:55.060 long-term incompatibility quickly than waste each other's time so on that date of yours where you

00:42:00.600 were out on a date with a conservative man who like was it kind of you said you said it was a

00:42:05.220 mutual thing but was it more so you who had an issue with it wasn't him it was mutual it was pretty

00:42:10.360 darn mutual like what happened was um we were in the car we're gonna go to a bar and he asked me

00:42:15.480 what i did for work so then i started talking about it and he was like would it bother you if i'm a

00:42:20.240 hardcore conservative and then i was like i was like well what do you mean by that because some

00:42:26.340 people are like i have a hardcore conservative and what they mean is like a smaller government

00:42:29.920 and less taxes which is you know something i can like deal with um and then some people are like oh

00:42:35.340 you know like nick fuentes style like you know you know like so i asked him and he actually he

00:42:42.920 actually said he was a huge fan of yours which is like fine that's a deal killer

00:42:47.940 but um and he was saying like oh you know i just like i'm really did he actually say that yeah

00:43:00.420 i like this huge fan okay um but he was like i'm just like really hardcore conservative

00:43:05.760 and i was like well honestly at this point i feel like i would make you more upset than you make me

00:43:11.680 upset and then you think so yeah it seems it seems to me the case it seems to me that typically

00:43:17.660 it's liberals who are not prepared to be friends with conservatives versus the reverse i think i

00:43:21.780 actually think they've done studies on this it's conservatives typically from what i've seen tend to

00:43:27.100 while they disagree ideologically uh liberals just will outright hate somebody who's conservative

00:43:33.780 and think they're like evil i think no i don't like that i want to get to be friends with

00:43:37.760 them so i can convert them into my leftist ideology so um how am i supposed to convert them yeah i come

00:43:44.100 from a conservative family um i have a lot of close friends that are conservative so to me that's like

00:43:50.160 i'm not new to disagreeing with people okay that's just part of life for me um but yeah it's just like

00:43:58.120 i'm okay dating somebody who believes in like some different things than me it just depends on what

00:44:02.500 extent like for example if i i want to have children in the future and if my child let's say

00:44:08.120 comes out as gay and my partner's like we have to send them to conversion therapy to me that's like

00:44:14.120 a hard line to me that's like no like i couldn't put my child we can we can uh maybe come back to that

00:44:20.020 specific thing um but how just curious how did you meet him oh hinge you met him on hinge doesn't

00:44:26.840 doesn't it allow you to disclose your political leanings on yeah i disclosed mine okay so why did

00:44:33.200 he go on the day yeah if he had such a big if he had such a big issue with it well okay uh we'll

00:44:37.860 continue going around and then did you did you have anything in response to her charlie or no i

00:44:42.740 actually think you guys made the right choice believe it or not i think you have to have value

00:44:46.080 alignment i think you have to have worldview harmony that you shouldn't date or marry people i mean

00:44:50.560 you're not you have kids are you gonna have kids or are you gonna raise them religious or not i mean

00:44:55.760 just the amount of daily questions that come up in a marriage is i mean it's 500 a day and if you

00:45:01.480 see the world differently then yeah that's a recipe for disaster so i actually think you guys made the

00:45:05.860 i think you should end up if you want to if you end up marrying somebody who sees the world the way

00:45:10.380 you do yeah it would make you a happier marriage and what if it was just one issue like if i'm assuming

00:45:15.580 that you're anti-choice right or pro-life yeah pro-life okay so if your wife is not pro-life but

00:45:21.500 everything else you guys agree would that be a deal breaker for you that one would be a deal breaker

00:45:25.220 yeah because that's that's not like taxes right that's yeah that's not like hey you know i believe

00:45:30.340 in a 35 tax rate and i believe in a 20 tax rate it's like philosophical that yeah that's right

00:45:35.940 okay that's correct uh what do you mean is it

00:45:45.120 uh sure we can take a quick look at it

00:45:52.960 i think i saw this young women are becoming dramatically left-wing young men are becoming

00:45:59.060 more right-wing this is happening on every continent there's south korea u.s germany uk

00:46:04.960 uh scroll down just a tad so we can see the uk here uh

00:46:11.120 okay yeah so i'm curious why why and i'd love to i mean this like non-sarcastically i'd love to learn

00:46:19.520 why why do you think that trend is i think it's because one side wait okay so left is so um i'm not

00:46:26.880 like that's okay that's all right so young young women are getting more in like the joe biden direction

00:46:31.900 okay of the democrat party okay that's what progressive okay and young men are coming more

00:46:36.240 you could say in the trump okay conservative direction i think it's more of that reason

00:46:40.460 because obviously the like the biden side or whatever you want to say um that side has more

00:46:46.520 of like women's like rights and stuff so obviously like well not right now but um like just in general

00:46:54.760 like that the ideas of like that side have more like pro-women things and the other side really

00:47:01.860 doesn't so i think that's why i'm gonna ask my uh young progressive organizer what why do you think

00:47:08.820 because it's something that is i personally don't think it's very valuable to ask people to label

00:47:13.620 themselves politically mostly because if somebody does that what i want them to do is like write it

00:47:18.220 down on a piece of paper and then crumple it up and throw it away and usually just go issue by issue

00:47:21.780 because i found that when you ask people what they mean by a conservative or whatever like pixie was

00:47:27.180 saying earlier sometimes they'll say oh like low taxes small government or whatever but these are

00:47:31.360 very nebulous terms but when you actually get into it maybe they describe themselves as conservative

00:47:35.800 but more the libertarian type so they might be pro-choice still they might actually be interested

00:47:39.960 in like a less interventionist like foreign policy and then at that point those are some like liberal

00:47:45.240 tenants to me so i don't think it's very useful to even try to like have people do that or you might

00:47:50.420 even find some liberals that are like anti-union for example yeah nick what we had like an audio

00:47:58.020 issue for a moment but it seems okay for now oh okay um audio issue yeah there was some echo

00:48:04.820 ab check thank you for the gift of 50 memberships hold that thought everybody uh chat one in the chat if

00:48:13.720 the audio is okay one in the chat if the audio is okay um we had a echo yeah it's cleared up it's

00:48:20.780 it's okay now

00:48:21.320 are we able to keep talking or yeah no they can hear us but apparently there's some reports uh that

00:48:29.840 we're reverb issue it's happened once at the beginning of the show and once just now no complaints

00:48:34.680 um is the chat is it fine okay we're good sorry go ahead so i was gonna say um personally i think um

00:48:44.620 there has been like a big push to like radicalize young men online um you see this with the tates you

00:48:50.560 see this in some other forms of media so i think young men in particular have been um very what is

00:48:57.140 it called specialized you got like these giant propaganda centers and networks focusing on trying

00:49:02.020 to radicalize them in a way that they haven't necessarily put the equal focus on women so i do

00:49:06.900 think that there's been a lot of like online radicalization going on i also think like personally

00:49:11.720 i'm a feminist but i think um there has like feminism has kind of left men behind and kind of has not

00:49:17.580 given them the answers that a lot of them are necessarily seeking um so then they turn into like

00:49:23.440 these like more of what i would call toxic figures instead for guidance so that's my answer when it comes

00:49:29.920 to like this increased like radicalization

00:49:31.960 what what could um what could conservatives do better to reach young women what could concern

00:49:41.580 it's not a trip trap question i'm honestly curious um i kind of want to give you that well i'll give

00:49:47.040 you the answer oh it's a secret recipe no i'll give it i'm gonna give it in front of five million

00:49:52.500 people no but i think a lot of um conservatives really villainize young women and like the choices

00:49:59.840 that they take um you see this not in this particular podcast necessarily but there's some

00:50:04.680 that are more extreme than this that um really focus on like shaming women or putting some like

00:50:09.980 basically cultural hypocrisy like saying it's okay for men to be promiscuous but women aren't

00:50:15.320 grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars hey thank you i would not say young men have been

00:50:20.900 radicalized i would say that young men are being reminded they are men and not women and that real

00:50:27.120 men value women because we are not equal yo thank you grid one appreciate it go ahead pixie and i i if

00:50:33.280 you can make your point quickly because i do want to bring in everybody else so they can answer the

00:50:37.100 original question go ahead yeah but long story short i think i'm trying to not be hypocritical about

00:50:41.900 how we treat men and women and not necessarily like shaming women for their past or how they

00:50:46.940 currently are is probably a better way to reach to them in my humble opinion okay okay so honestly

00:50:54.060 i'm not too educated on politics that i can say i'm one thing um but i do think that my views do lean

00:51:02.200 um more progressive um but again i'm not too educated on the topic um but i think i could date

00:51:10.860 someone i have dated someone who was um conservative um but for me it's more there's make or breaks like

00:51:18.520 you were saying about um you know if your wife was you know pro-choice and you um are not um that would

00:51:26.080 be something that i could be like oh you know that's where i draw the line just certain things that

00:51:29.780 you know morally i could not be with someone who had those views what about you um i'm not really

00:51:36.420 big into politics either i don't really understand it all i know is that i'm pro-choice i like equality

00:51:42.680 um but yeah i don't know i do agree though that your partner you need to have the like similar

00:51:48.860 mindset so it might be a bit difficult if i was to be with somebody that had a very strong political

00:51:54.380 opinion usually i just go for people that are quite open-minded and chill um but i think i could be

00:51:59.980 open still because i like to learn new things when i'm with partners so it could open my mind even a bit

00:52:04.960 more and i could probably learn about politics then molly what about you well i kind of i agree with

00:52:10.360 what you said um i've actually my ex-boyfriend who is very prominent in politics and he's very

00:52:15.260 conservative and um i'm not at all um so that was definitely like an interesting dynamic but i think

00:52:24.480 overall we like really like respected each other's perspective um and you know i i don't think that

00:52:33.400 like conservatives are evil or like they have like a bad agenda i just personally like

00:52:40.060 i don't agree with what they would decide for me if you know um and so i think that in a relationship

00:52:49.380 when you're with someone that shares different values it would be extremely hard to be married to

00:52:54.620 someone for the rest of your life it's doable um especially you know if you have that type of

00:53:00.300 curiosity with the other person but i for sure would want to be with someone who shares my kind

00:53:06.420 of openness as well okay and then charlie i think you kind of maybe already went over it but i mean do

00:53:12.620 you have any thoughts on you know do you do you think it's a better idea for people when it comes to

00:53:17.340 relationships or marriage to i mean i think i have i have a sense of what your answer would be but

00:53:22.720 to uh marry someone who shares their same political beliefs yeah don't don't don't try to change your

00:53:28.760 partner that's that's a bad idea agree yeah don't try to change your partner don't yeah erin you said

00:53:34.720 earlier your your boyfriend you said he's well he's not conservative but he's liberal and you're much

00:53:39.900 further left you're leftist um and you said you would you know when it comes to perhaps people you

00:53:45.800 would be friends with someone who's maybe more conservative so you can shift them more left

00:53:50.160 i said that are you sure but yeah well i was gonna ask her have you shifted your boyfriend

00:53:54.960 no more left okay so he's pretty firm and he's firmly planted in his filthy filthy liberalism but

00:54:01.400 i love him in spite of that i see okay got it but we align on a lot of social issues so if we want to

00:54:06.680 like create a dichotomy of like social and economic issues i feel like the economic issues is primarily

00:54:11.120 where we have disagreement and the social issues those tend to be i feel like the most polarizing

00:54:15.360 and contentious so if we had more disagreement there we probably would not be able to be in a

00:54:18.940 relationship together harmoniously so okay i see but friends yeah i am open to radicalizing them sure

00:54:25.060 okay got it got it so who here i'm curious who here considers themselves a feminist maybe just show

00:54:32.760 of hands are you a feminist that's it just erin and pixie molly a little bit okay all right uh so charlie

00:54:44.120 we've got some feminists here what do you think of uh what do you think of feminism i want them to

00:54:49.740 define the term first because there's no use in me sure sure giving thoughts on a abstract concept

00:54:54.880 sure so i'm all yours what's your sense how do you define feminism feminism is just simply the

00:55:00.760 advocacy of equality both social political economic on the basis of all genders everywhere so

00:55:07.320 that's what feminism is to me do you concur i concur do you concur concurred okay okay

00:55:16.280 so you want me to do you agree with their definition of feminism um she i mean that would probably be the

00:55:23.240 most agreed upon definition um so i do believe in equality under the law obviously i believe in

00:55:31.380 equality for representation or enfranchisement to be able to vote obviously um but you said economic

00:55:38.400 equality that that's interesting do you think that female models and male models should be paid the

00:55:44.360 same by law yeah yep okay so we should make female actresses and models pay be paid less because they

00:55:53.800 get they earn about 20 times more than men i think so women would get a pay cut you're okay when it

00:55:58.840 comes to creative fields like that it's going to be very difficult to look at it on the basis of like

00:56:04.120 sex or gender how you would pay somebody because that's going to have so many more factors and simply that

00:56:08.760 but if we're talking about equal economic opportunities like for example should like a

00:56:13.080 man and woman doing the exact same position at a corporate office be paid the same if they're doing

00:56:18.200 the same amount of work then yes depends on what they study depends how long they've been there it

00:56:22.600 depends if they're equally as good at the job it depends all all else being equal i'm saying if all

00:56:26.840 of those things are equal can we at least agree they should be that's already that's already the law

00:56:30.600 so you're not allowed to discriminate based on gender or sex based on a law passed in the 1970s

00:56:36.440 yeah however what is now being tried to be passed through other movements is to try to swoop in

00:56:43.160 and say regardless of qualifications how often you ask for a raise so i'll ask a question um why why do

00:56:50.360 you think for example the average male it looks as if they earn more than an average woman in a city is

00:56:58.680 it because of sexism or other factors i think sometimes implicit bias can be one factor among many

00:57:04.600 but like all the things that you mentioned earlier different qualifications different uh

00:57:08.920 business acumen skills um work output numbers of hours where it could all be things that impact

00:57:14.280 pay right so and like studies that like focus on the gaps between men and women like do make

00:57:19.560 make note of these differences

00:57:22.920 okay uh skiz tech thank you for the gift of 100 subs uh charlie do you have a response uh no i hear

00:57:28.360 that i do want to actually get back to even more of a fundamental question and i'm sorry i didn't ask

00:57:31.960 this sure what is a woman a woman is somebody who presents that's our social conception of womanhood

00:57:40.360 so you acts in such a way so pixie just can you answer that question without using the word woman or

00:57:45.800 womanhood it's because basically would be a functional definition so as a society we have an understanding of

00:57:51.960 what woman is what is that yeah that's basically i'm a man well then xy chromosomes okay but the problem

00:58:01.560 with that is that i didn't check your chromosomes before coming in here and calling you a man and

00:58:06.360 you didn't check my chromosomes before coming in here or genitals or genitals calling me a woman so

00:58:11.400 let me let me just play this out so first of all you can't give me a definition without using the word

00:58:15.640 woman move that's a functional definition yeah sure do you know what functional definitions are i'm very

00:58:20.360 well aware and you should have a functional definition for the most important question in

00:58:23.880 civilization right well the point of a functional definition functional definitions are

00:58:28.040 a definition that is by the function of something so like for example um no there's an objective

00:58:34.360 definition one is like a like one is a function of one do you understand what i'm trying to say

00:58:39.560 yeah i i do so then can you give me an objective a functional utilitarian any sort of biological

00:58:45.800 definition of what a woman is because how can we debate feminism if we can't agree what a woman is

00:58:50.920 i don't i would even like i feel like pixie's definition absolutely satisfies the definition of

00:58:56.040 what constitutes womanhood but i would define it only slightly differently which is that it's a person

00:59:01.000 who performs a set of social roles that are typically associated with um with feminine characteristics but

00:59:08.120 not necessarily because there are even cis women who fall outside of this and we still consider them

00:59:13.080 women nonetheless like butch lesbians for example are women that exhibit very masculine characteristics but

00:59:18.040 nonetheless society understands them to be women so i find cis to be a very offensive word by the

00:59:23.880 way i don't know how you feel about the cis i don't i don't think i don't think i think it's hate

00:59:27.720 speech to be honest i didn't mean to trigger you guys i would have given you a trigger warning before if

00:59:31.800 i don't know do you think anyone can become a woman yep but not anyone will okay so then at

00:59:37.480 what point do they become a woman it will depend on where they are in their gender transition for the

00:59:42.280 most part does it require drugs to become a woman no personally i think it's a mindset it's a it's a

00:59:47.560 spiritual energy it's it's the vibe that you give off you know like the the vibe um before we continue

00:59:54.280 on i want to just give everyone an opportunity to answer charlie no totally fine to answer charlie's

00:59:58.600 question i know you two had already answered uh what what is a woman starting with you we'll go around

01:00:04.280 the table go ahead um can you um skip me we'll come back to her i i am a woman that's that's the best

01:00:12.520 answer that's the one that katanji brown jackson should have given in front of the senate so come

01:00:18.520 back to you yeah come back to me come back to me let me sure okay go ahead same i'm like i'm a woman

01:00:26.360 what about you can i have you tilt your mic down just a tad perfect go ahead right there yeah um i'm a

01:00:34.280 woman um but i also do think that um a woman is someone who identifies as a woman um and that's that's

01:00:43.400 that i mean theoretically it's someone who's born with a womb but this generation obviously has proven

01:00:52.120 that people men can turn into women um so i'm not discluding that i still think that they should be

01:00:58.680 um perceived as what they're um portraying themselves as but technically i still think

01:01:05.400 trans girls they are a version of a man but they can still be classed as a woman which is a bit tricky

01:01:11.000 but yeah yeah molly um also the same answer i think i think what constitute as a woman is the energy that

01:01:18.280 you give off and that you want to put out into the world so if being a woman or female is a mindset

01:01:26.440 can your age also be a mindset can you choose to be can you just say i feel 14 which is a

01:01:32.280 classifiable mental condition by the way of in it so i i will say um yes i know people that act way

01:01:41.560 younger than they actually are and they love acting way younger than they actually are and i know people

01:01:45.880 that you know like act way older than they are and they you know and they pride themselves in that and

01:01:51.240 i think okay fair enough so if a 35 year old man claims he's 14 should we have any problem if he

01:01:58.200 wants to have sex with another 14 no no i'm not saying no we probably should have a problem no no

01:02:03.240 i'm not saying that they should be able to have sex but but they can they can say he's not 14 14.

01:02:09.880 right grid one motorsports donated 200 the man who owns a paid himself one comma three mil a day

01:02:18.840 last year he loves feminism today men acting female can be better women than real women

01:02:25.160 feminism has failed you how can the patriarchy help you today that was beautiful grid one thank you

01:02:30.360 appreciate appreciate it yeah he's nice um so going back but if your identity can't is an energy or a

01:02:39.720 feeling that can change why would it be wrong for a 35 year old to say he's 14 therefore but then how

01:02:47.160 is someone who has male parts a woman if he's not a woman that's two different things why it's a

01:02:53.080 mindset in time your age isn't a mindset i mean like but then why is why is your sex or your gender a

01:02:59.800 mindset and your age isn't i don't know which one is which one of you could probably say but sex and

01:03:05.240 do you agree at least acknowledge that sex and gender are two separate things that's what i was

01:03:08.920 there are zero genders two sexes and infinite personalities okay gender doesn't exist no okay

01:03:16.360 sex does so the parts you're born with is who you are how does gender not exist it's a 1960s clinical

01:03:22.280 term largely made out of the academy of john money and alfred kinsey and many post-modern child

01:03:28.920 psychiatrists many of whom by the way were not really great people but we don't have to go into

01:03:32.440 that but gender is a new term of the last 50 or 60 years yeah but it still exists but personalities

01:03:38.600 exist we can agree with that proclivities or interests or likes exist so by that definition then

01:03:45.240 you're if you're a woman or a man is your energy it is your personality well yeah you're the the goal or

01:03:52.200 what used to be the case is the vast vast vast majority 99.9 percent of all people their biology

01:03:58.280 and their reality or their how they viewed their reality i should say we're in alignment and now

01:04:02.440 that's not so much the case so the people are first of all there's many elements to this people are told

01:04:08.280 that they can become something they can't so they go on a very very um damaging self-destructive

01:04:15.800 pattern of medical interventions that even if you're pro-trans you have to acknowledge

01:04:21.320 that you know hysterectomy at age 17 is not exactly an easy surgery i don't think anyone at 17 should

01:04:27.240 be altering their body but no i agree um it's just it's happening right now at a thousands of young

01:04:33.400 kids across the country are getting um what is called gender affirming care but it's irreversible

01:04:39.640 surgeries both so puberty blockers and hormone there's thousands of kids that are getting

01:04:44.280 hysterectomies across the united states no thousands of kids are getting puberty blockers or hormone

01:04:49.160 blockers or puberty blockers probably even more you could stop using those and as far as breast

01:04:53.640 reduction surgery or hysterectomies we don't know the number but i'll even say it's probably only a

01:04:57.080 couple dozen it's probably you're right it's probably not thousands right but it's any we don't know the

01:05:01.160 exact numbers but an estimate is anywhere between 10 to 15 000 minors and is growing are currently

01:05:07.240 receiving monthly doses of hormone replacement theory estrogenic therapy yeah but you can stop those and be

01:05:13.960 like well that's the question right uh there's a lot of detransitioners that are speaking out that

01:05:18.280 are not able to you know puberty is not an assembly line that you could just push a button and restart

01:05:23.400 that is a increasingly disproven scientific theory right now chloe cole is one of the most famous

01:05:28.760 detransitioners who she's in her 20s and she was sold the bill of goods and when she was 16 she said i

01:05:33.560 think i'm a man and she went on a very very aggressive regimen of hormone blockers and puberty blockers

01:05:38.680 um and she has huge regret and hopefully one day she'll be able to have you know have children

01:05:44.520 again but it gets back to a question of can so i'm just making a point though that these these ideas

01:05:49.640 have consequences it's more than just a silly question oh what is a woman that if you can't

01:05:53.720 answer it or at the very least say that you should allow minors to become adults before they make these

01:05:58.680 decisions then and this is not a small thing the quote-unquote gender affirming care we know that in

01:06:04.200 california you have to be 18 years old to get a tattoo and yet 14 year olds can go to what we call

01:06:09.960 a doctor and get a highly aggressive hormone replacement therapy treatment sometimes without

01:06:15.880 even notifying their parent and all of these are ramifications of the inability to answer very simple

01:06:21.880 biological questions i would be interested in seeing your exact like study or citation for when

01:06:26.600 it comes to like puberty blockers because i know a lot of people are not a lot of people there's

01:06:31.320 a lot of people who end up on puberty blockers not because they're necessarily trans but because

01:06:35.720 they're going through puberty too early and there are clear like negative side effects and consequences

01:06:40.920 of let's say like a 10 year old girl getting her that's that's a separate you're right yeah but it's

01:06:45.720 used on cis children i think like what you're talking about is precocious puberty but it's not

01:06:49.720 used on perfectly healthy physically able-bodied children right so there's a great book that i'll i guess

01:06:55.640 we have modest hikima donated two hundred dollars charlie sorry you had to travel to come for me

01:07:01.960 for the show my boy did you dirty by putting you next to the demon wtf i don't think you're a demon

01:07:08.600 by the way props on the new rick rickson well maybe you are a demon you are brain dead sad sad

01:07:15.960 all right i'll just i'll reference one book and she's a non-political doctor her doctor's doctor

01:07:21.880 her name is dr miriam grossman it's a book called lost in trans nation she has she has treated not

01:07:27.320 just theorized she's a clinician and a physician not just someone who writes abstract medical journals

01:07:33.080 and she is one of the most outspoken people against what is called gender affirming care

01:07:37.560 and she she's treating hundreds of kids that are now so i know detransitioners exist but what do you

01:07:43.240 say to the thousands of trans people that actually report happiness and and being healthy after they

01:07:48.120 receive gender affirming care don't don't doubt that in the short term testosterone therapy from

01:07:52.760 someone who has a fair amount of testosterone it can it can make you feel confident it can make you

01:07:57.560 feel better in your skin that is not a lasting effect though is that but it is for some people

01:08:02.280 well you'd be the suicide rate i can't say that word um this sorry the self-harm rate after eight to

01:08:07.880 ten years actually goes up it nearly doubles and we're still studying it that's the other point is that

01:08:12.920 i'm not going to throw around a lot of studies here um and they very well might be right it might have

01:08:17.480 helped them individually but let me give you an example if a medication is on the market and it

01:08:22.680 harms one in 250 000 people for example robitussin you guys ever take robitussin no no it's a cough

01:08:28.280 thing it's you know they they they found that one of their lots of robitussin last week might have

01:08:33.640 been contaminated and they did a massive recall right and it was just a whisper of it okay the point

01:08:39.480 that is in medicine the first rule used to be first do no harm and the fact still is right no

01:08:44.280 they've changed the hippocratic oath they've changed it yeah they have who's they the american

01:08:48.440 medical association and a lot of the the medical institutions um it's similar but it's not like

01:08:53.160 woke ideology well you'd be surprised actually the the medical industry has been taken over by

01:08:58.360 a lot of radical doctors are woke now well for example i mean when they were giving monoclonal

01:09:03.400 antibodies in the city of new york they were prioritizing people based on the color of their

01:09:06.840 skin black individuals in new york got monoclonal antibodies above their white counterparts was it based

01:09:11.960 on the color of their skin or like maybe their background related to like their socioeconomic

01:09:15.800 status it was it was racial um but i don't want to get too deep into that rabbit hole but the point

01:09:19.880 that i'm just trying to make is that in medicine in particular you must have a cautious approach

01:09:24.360 even if there were pluses and positives which might very well be true if there's even a one percent

01:09:28.840 a two percent adverse event you pull the drug immediately because you first do no harm if there's

01:09:33.640 something that is actively damaging a society and it's now a certifiable um fact that we see

01:09:40.200 thousands of young kids are being told that they can transition when in reality they have other

01:09:44.920 underlying issues that we should address depression trauma anxiety or they're on the autism spectrum

01:09:49.320 disorder and they get mislabeled because on whether a tick tock video or some sort of other thing makes

01:09:55.160 them feel as if they might have you know a transgender issue when they very well might have other issues

01:10:01.880 that need to be addressed one in 27 men are young boys are autistic anyway sorry i don't mean no totally fine

01:10:08.040 i just had a quick question for you two since you guys had pretty strong positions on this can men

01:10:12.600 get pregnant oh grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars if we want to talk numbers then

01:10:21.240 honesty requires we first admit that gender dysphoria is a mental condition which should be

01:10:26.200 treated first before any physical treatments are given accuracy matters all right grid one motorsports

01:10:32.280 they no longer call it gender dysphoria unfortunately i just want to i would actually

01:10:35.960 make your argument for you they they call and they don't even call it a medical condition they they

01:10:40.280 call it um i actually don't even know what it's actually called gender dysphoria used to be the

01:10:43.960 clinical term um but um they've changed it since yeah that's that's right but i can go deeper into

01:10:49.800 that the old way we used to treat this is called watchful waiting where we believed that puberty was the

01:10:54.120 solution not the problem and almost every single case in europe was actually the pioneer of this

01:10:59.080 is that when you allow puberty to play its course these individuals they might end up being lesbian

01:11:04.440 or gay but not transgender and that's a completely different thing that doesn't require hormones

01:11:09.000 or eventually antidepressants on top of it i'm sorry pixie you were going to say something yeah my

01:11:13.560 question was can men get pregnant um two things i would say if you're a biological male if we're going

01:11:19.960 to define male through biology or whatever then no um i do want to push back on some things that i heard

01:11:25.880 earlier well before you do that go ahead aaron do you have a answer to the i would say yes because

01:11:31.160 anybody who has a uterus has the capacity to give birth so for example a trans guy who gets pregnant

01:11:36.840 yes would be a man who is pregnant but if you're talking about a man who is assigned man at birth and

01:11:41.800 does not have a uterus then no he doesn't have the ability to get pregnant you look at me like i'm

01:11:45.560 crazy or what do you disagree but a lot of women so do you want to know why young men are going away

01:11:50.840 from the left that's why young men are leaving the left why because what you just said is because

01:11:56.920 they're uncomfortable acknowledging reality what you that some trans men can get pregnant what you

01:12:01.080 just said is at war with reality and you know massacring a lot of women can't get pregnant either

01:12:06.520 vocabulary yeah it's just a question it's just a question you know um yeah i'll let you come in

01:12:11.640 in just a sec pixie i which one of you referenced chromosomes is that well you said like oh none you

01:12:18.440 didn't check our chromosomes right yeah well people understood what a woman was before chromosomes were

01:12:24.760 discovered so the the definition does not require this type of abstraction people understood what a

01:12:31.640 woman was on the basis of the societal norms at the time generally speaking right it's more precisely

01:12:37.480 it's about like the gonads if you're at any point in your life going to produce large gametes then

01:12:43.480 you're a woman they how society at least most societies as well outside of like western as well

01:12:51.080 but even western we can make this argument um what they would look at is the way that a person is like

01:12:55.560 necessarily performing so what is their role that's why you have like the idea of like non-binary third

01:13:00.600 gender et cetera et cetera because there have been people also who have not performed at their role

01:13:05.000 as like a male or female so they're put into the third category third sex whatever okay um so i would

01:13:10.760 argue that for the vast majority of um human histories and societies what they look at is what is your

01:13:17.000 performance and that maps on to what we do now because we don't really look at biology we look up people

01:13:23.080 act and that's why let me finish that's why we also the terms less manly he's less of a man than him

01:13:30.040 or she's not that womanly makes sense if gender was truly a binary those words would make no sense

01:13:35.960 it would be like cat and not cat that doesn't you can't have a in between really and the same thing

01:13:41.640 applies for gender there is a spectrum there that's why the set the words less womanly more womanly more

01:13:46.440 manly less manly make sense to us and all of those things are fluid throughout time like what constituted

01:13:51.960 like masculine tendencies or behaviors will be different now than it was several years ago or even like

01:13:56.600 things like colors like for example pink used to be considered a masculine color pink is no longer

01:14:01.400 really considered a masculine clothes considered a feminine color so there was never anything

01:14:04.760 inherently masculine about the color blue or or the color pink or anything like that that could always

01:14:09.400 change at any given point in time do you think that male brains and female brains or men and women

01:14:14.440 brains are different wired differently there are differences between male and female brains but i believe

01:14:20.760 it's a matter of like statistical averages of like gray matter there's not going to be like distinct

01:14:24.600 anatomical features that differentiate a female brain from a male brain really yeah no you really

01:14:30.360 think that well no it's proven like scientifically like when we think yes it is when we take a brain

01:14:35.480 scan of a male and female um the average doctor can't look and be like that is a male brain right

01:14:40.360 there not true no hold on wait let me do a spec scan okay if you do a spec scan you can see what parts

01:14:45.880 the brain light up and in a woman the basal ganglia and the amygdala is far more active which is the inner

01:14:52.680 thought matrix women have a far busier inner thought life than men do would you guys agree with

01:14:57.880 that right i was gonna say it's it's so that's not true it's very well known that like men um

01:15:03.480 generally are more on the logical side of things and women are more on the emotional side of things

01:15:08.440 and i think that has a big role or the way that our brains are wired has a big role to play i'm not

01:15:12.840 saying that if you took babies who were completely unmolded that you know their brains would look

01:15:17.240 different but um i think as we age um living the living in the gender that we are given um

01:15:25.880 you know our brains become attuned to certain things and that's why parts of our yeah like

01:15:30.440 piggybacking off of that point i don't doubt that the studies that you looked at did find differences

01:15:34.120 in like brain mapping scans between men and women but the key thing is that they looked at men and

01:15:38.040 women so that's already a brain that's been subjected to a lifetime or not a lifetime but like

01:15:42.200 decades-long socialization so that socialization is going to impact it if you looked at like a brain

01:15:46.760 scan of like infants for example like a male infant and a female infant it would be like like how much

01:15:53.080 how different would it really look do you think it would look significantly different no it's not even

01:15:56.520 close of course it's different and i can i can prove it to you in two ways but the first one do you

01:16:00.360 guys know the john money gender experiment so okay i'll just really quick john money who is a total creep

01:16:06.280 he uh believed that this is before we mapped the human genome okay this is before we even knew about

01:16:10.120 chromosomes he said that men and women are blank slates at birth and he said that they're formed

01:16:15.960 through the toys we give them the colors we appropriate to them and they're blank slates he

01:16:20.040 then there was these identical twins one of the tweens twins burns themselves terribly in the genitals

01:16:24.360 and he said raise that twin as a girl and basically his entire life he was tortured and you know awful

01:16:30.360 awful story eventually rebelled against john money and this twin eventually was told that hey you were born

01:16:34.760 a boy but raised as a girl and even had a vet of vagina put onto you artificially and he was like

01:16:39.880 instead of being mad he was relieved because he said i knew i was a boy all along so there's no

01:16:44.520 clinical evidence to support that secondly though it's a funnier one okay do you hear me out and i

01:16:49.240 think this will resonate with all of you harvard university locked a group of men in a room alone

01:16:53.480 100 of them and a group of women in a room alone okay and they said what did you think about for 30

01:16:57.960 minutes the men no surprise sex and sports the young ladies what did they think of for 30 minutes

01:17:03.240 they replayed conversations that they had in the last couple of days for the record a man has never

01:17:10.920 replayed conversations that they've had do that our brains our brains are different everybody

01:17:17.720 really not do that like i over no of course not you don't think about conversations you've never had

01:17:21.480 like a shower arguments or like shower thoughts or anything like that no that's not society my friend

01:17:26.440 that is biology you are wired to have those rethought we aren't it's not a learned behavior it's not about

01:17:32.760 dolls it's not about dresses our biology our brains are made differently you've really never thought

01:17:39.240 about a conversation that we have like we don't replay any conversations ever you've never like done

01:17:44.200 that the thing my trans because sometimes i i'm sometimes i will very rarely though very rarely

01:17:51.480 sometimes occasionally we men are very forward thinking what is next the job the interview

01:17:57.240 tomorrow and not saying women aren't women are very reflective that's why females are better at

01:18:03.160 poetry uh women are better at the more relational uh type aspects of being a nurse or an elementary

01:18:09.320 school teacher again that's not learned behavior there is a biological element to it and it starts with

01:18:15.400 we don't even understand the brain as much as we can we understand like one percent of one percent of it

01:18:19.320 but i think that study and your reaction affirms it because if i had a group of men around here

01:18:23.720 what do you think of when you're alone like i'll just think of the nfc championship game the stock

01:18:26.840 market and you know all the women i've been with or the women i want to be with it's a little different

01:18:31.720 do you think if they had conducted this study in a different country that the men and women would

01:18:35.400 have given these same answers uh yes i think that these things um are universal and i mean i can't say

01:18:42.360 to that that would be my speculation that uh the men in iran are thinking about soccer and

01:18:48.680 persian women and the women are thinking about you know what's going on in their local neighborhood

01:18:53.720 these things transcend continent they transcend culture and we know that because one of the

01:18:58.200 arguments that you were making is that well you know at the fundamental root these are learned and

01:19:02.680 active you know these are these are put on by western society but you go into african villages like very

01:19:07.080 poor third world african villages they don't even have a term for transgender the idea that man can

01:19:12.120 become a woman or a woman can become man this is a uniquely western phenomenon that is born out of

01:19:17.400 the academy born out of college that i will say and i think we could agree that is is largely they

01:19:23.560 prey on people that have other underlying issues and then it gets built on top of that autism spectrum

01:19:29.400 disorder depression anxiety some other sort of um bipolar schizophrenia i think trauma things of that

01:19:35.160 nature um there's a couple of things to push back here brian if you can quick i don't i don't

01:19:40.600 mean monopolize i'm sorry no it's okay um there's a couple things i do want to push back on that

01:19:45.800 because like there are like communities and cultures that we could search up right now in china india

01:19:50.440 various like native american like histories that have recognized idea of like third gender or outside

01:19:55.320 gender um that doesn't fit into this binary so i wouldn't say it's just western and then on top of

01:19:59.800 wait let it let me answer no but no no please continue you are right i can address that at length i don't

01:20:04.360 think it's fruitful okay keep going okay you're not wrong and then on top of that you gave a case study i

01:20:09.080 kind of want to give a case study back um npr did a article on this i can't remember the name but

01:20:13.960 basically it was about a person who felt gender fluid and when they felt like they were a man and

01:20:19.480 they did things like spatial recognition or other tests regarding that they would score like a man does

01:20:24.840 like higher than most women but when they got into the mindset of being a woman they would score higher

01:20:29.800 in woman-related tasks so yeah it does come back you're saying like this is all predisposed um biology

01:20:35.000 biology biology but there might be something to be said about like oh no if you're thinking

01:20:39.000 like a man the mindset of a man maybe that's more in tune with certain ways of thinking versus

01:20:44.440 thinking like a woman that doesn't mean it's all 100 biological basis it means that like hey

01:20:49.080 if you're raised to think in a certain pattern you're going to perform in that pattern i agree

01:20:52.840 i mean if a society a society can mold you of course but you're dealing with very powerful raw material

01:20:57.880 that's underestimated in the current cultural conversation and you can only guide that raw material

01:21:03.080 so much so let me ask another hypothetical every i'll just tell you if i sit down with men

01:21:08.440 what do they always talk about they talk about macro concepts big things stock market sports you

01:21:13.400 know things that are very you know like let's just say bigger than individual women if you sit down

01:21:18.600 they'll talk a lot about conversations or relationships their kids very micro this you

01:21:22.760 know one of the reasons why men and women brains are different and they continue to be different is

01:21:27.320 there's different skill sets and i think we can all acknowledge that like men are better at some

01:21:30.440 things than women and women women are better some things than men i don't know why that is a

01:21:34.440 wildly the way that you frame it is like oh women are awesome at like small talk and like sewing or

01:21:39.560 whatever and then men are just awesome at like the stock market and being ceo let me ask you a question

01:21:45.720 let me ask you a question why is it that the international chess foundation doesn't want

01:21:49.720 biological men who who believe they are women to compete with women they say that will not allow trans

01:21:56.280 men into the female category why is that i can't speak to that but i'm just if you're

01:22:00.120 gonna talk about like representation being the thing that lets you know that oh men are obviously

01:22:04.520 smarter you could break this down i never said smarter i never said smart i said different

01:22:09.480 then different women okay then we could say this my wife does things with my child that i i can't even

01:22:14.600 dream of doing such as having an intuition compassion empathy she can operate on 30 minutes

01:22:21.240 of sleep i need eight hours or else i'm like don't underestimate yourself charlie no no no no no

01:22:26.120 hold on no they're women have a different giftedness i believe given by god that is

01:22:31.000 completely different men i never said smarter in fact a woman's intuition is far better than my

01:22:35.320 intuition i trust my my wife's gut when it comes to people when it comes to relationships and she

01:22:40.680 leans on me for you know investments or politics we are given different gifting now with that being

01:22:46.360 said some women have a gifting in that direction those are the exception though there is a general rule and

01:22:51.880 the general rule is that women are far more gifted at people and caretaking and the intimate i don't

01:22:58.040 mean that demeaning or derogatory i never use the word smarter or dumber that you might be you might be

01:23:02.520 inferred oh thank you molly no i i actually very much agree with what you're saying um me personally

01:23:08.840 i mean sexuality is a big part of my life um and i think what you're saying actually really ties into a

01:23:15.000 lot of like sexuality because it's the man's role to be um you know kind of like the i mean if you're

01:23:22.600 talking like the nuclear family you know it's like the man's role to kind of be the governing force of

01:23:26.280 the family take care of everything on the outside take care of uh you know the the finances the stocks

01:23:31.000 all of that and to kind of be the the rock for all of the um little things that the woman has to go

01:23:38.120 through during the day um just all the little conversations all the things that she has to deal with

01:23:43.000 that you're not there and i think that um you know it's a really beautiful thing like yin and yang

01:23:49.240 you know like there's it is beautiful parts of men that complement women and there's parts of women

01:23:54.040 that complement men and the best thing is is there's things that women can do that men cannot

01:23:59.480 and there's things that men can do that women cannot and i think that the issue is we try and

01:24:03.480 figure out like who's better what who's more powerful who can you know who gets to say uh what

01:24:09.320 happens and i think that the issue that's really dividing and the beauty comes when you kind of

01:24:14.920 bring those skills together that's wonderfully said molly that was beautiful molly let me switch

01:24:20.360 to something really quick we do have two chats we have to read then we'll come back to this topic

01:24:24.360 we have doc here m scott peck defined love as the act of promoting one's spiritual growth the emotion

01:24:30.360 of love is experienced when we act accordingly most of this panel confuses love with eros sad hey doc thank

01:24:37.640 you so much man appreciate your uh support thank you good to see you back in the chat we have charlie

01:24:43.320 kirk fan may i ask the panel do you think the long-term benefits of commitment and monogamy outweigh

01:24:49.640 the short-term dopamine hits that come with less committed less loyal damaging relationships

01:24:55.240 slash hookups we can go around the panel really quick on that starting with you go ahead could you um

01:25:00.680 explain a little bit more give me a little bit can i can i tell them about dopamine sure it's super good

01:25:05.640 so dopamine is called a neurotransmitter it goes super fast like a million miles an hour not that

01:25:10.680 fast but like almost yeah there you go it is it is the reward molecule so dopamine comes out when you

01:25:17.560 have certain things uh a rewarding uh you it's it's forward looking right so you actually don't get a

01:25:23.800 dopamine release when you hit the climax that's serotonin or oxytocin uh it is in anticipation so

01:25:29.240 you're hungry you're going for a good meal or you're going to the next porn video or whatever it might be

01:25:34.440 um so the dopamine hits are addictive so whatever gives you dopamine you want more of

01:25:39.480 um and your your brain is really dopamine dumb so it doesn't know when it's had too much but we've

01:25:44.920 learned in the dopamine science i'm sorry to monopolize on this but there's a great book by

01:25:48.520 a woman by the name of dr anna lemke who did the best book on dopamine it's called dopamine nation

01:25:52.760 is that for every interval you go up of dopamine you must go down that's why when people go really deep

01:25:57.720 into dopamine they end up getting into depression in the days of the weeks that follow so you go to a rock

01:26:01.960 concert you're so overwhelmed you might do some drugs cocaine spokes spikes dopamine alcohol spikes

01:26:07.160 dopamine sex spikes dopamine your brain then has to interval back so next four days like i feel so

01:26:12.200 low it's nothing wrong with you and so that's one of my arguments against pornography is that without

01:26:16.600 you know it you're actually lowering your dopamine interval so i hope that's helpful thank you it is um

01:26:21.880 i just can you repeat the question one more time with the actual yeah it's about uh do you think uh

01:26:26.920 the dope do you think the dopamine hits are worth it the long-term benefits of commitment and monogamy

01:26:32.120 do they outweigh the short-term dopamine hits that come with less committed less loyal damaging

01:26:36.440 relationships hookups for example it might be very exciting if you're you know jumping from one casual

01:26:43.000 hookup to the next but does that excitement outweigh the long-term benefits of commitment long-term

01:26:50.520 relationships monogamy etc i for me personally for me i value like i want a long-term commitment i want

01:26:59.560 a loyal loyal relationship and i i don't really do like the hookup culture i don't i only have sex with

01:27:08.200 whoever i'm with whoever i'm dating um i feel like everybody's entitled to their own opinion as well too but for

01:27:14.840 me personally i feel like it's not worth it um and i rather uh how do i put this into words i'm

01:27:23.160 sorry i'm struggling with my thoughts a little bit but that's that's my opinion on it me personally i

01:27:29.320 enjoy that stability but those are my personal preferences that i'm not really interested in

01:27:33.240 imposing upon other people so i think it really comes down to if hookups are the thing that make

01:27:38.200 you happy or whatever i don't see anything wrong with going that way i think i'm confused with the

01:27:42.280 question that was me too yeah i'm not into hookup culture so okay i also am not into hookup culture

01:27:52.760 but i uh personally think that you know to each their own um you know if that's again what makes

01:27:57.640 you happy um but i think kind of um being single for a year and going on dates i wasn't in hookup culture

01:28:07.000 necessarily but i was going on dates with multiple people um it is it can be a little depressing for

01:28:13.720 sure when you say you're going on dates with multiple people what was the in a average week

01:28:20.200 what was uh how many dates were you going on um i wasn't too like date date date it was um you know

01:28:27.240 i was on hinge i was on tinder i would um maybe have a date with one or two people a week sometimes

01:28:33.640 for a few weeks i wouldn't have any dates um but yeah it it would be kind of depressing you could

01:28:38.840 you know go on a date with someone multiple times and then it doesn't work out and then

01:28:44.120 you know um but i do think long i do want something like long term um because i don't think personally

01:28:52.040 that that is good for me because of the person that i am um so sure yeah what about you tina

01:28:58.120 um long-term commitment kind of feels like prison to me so um i'm just chilling doing what i want

01:29:04.920 to do i'm not a big fan of hookup culture um but obviously i do do it for filming so that kind of

01:29:10.200 gives me what i need um but then i'm chilling nick schmexy donated two hundred dollars hey brian

01:29:17.640 and charlie thanks will you guys post the stream after i haven't been paying attention because i'm

01:29:23.320 i'm whacking off to angel and sophia welcome to the whatever podcast where we should probably

01:29:28.440 moderate these uh appreciate it nick i i do have a i mean you you all deserve better men than what

01:29:33.480 america's producing you really do i mean subscribe you you you deserve that you deserve better men than

01:29:40.840 what what this culture is producing okay uh well tina coming back to you really quick i mean in some of

01:29:46.760 your pre-show notes here that you provided you said for example that you guess you always end up

01:29:52.440 sleeping through friend groups hot take could be that you're all for open non-traditional relationships

01:29:58.120 um you said at what one time you left a guy asleep in your hotel room to go hook up with three other

01:30:04.200 guys um there's more there i can read more um you said you also said commitment to one person is

01:30:12.040 difficult for you um i suppose it's good that you're at least self-aware um do you care to elaborate a

01:30:19.160 bit on that um on which part i don't know there's a lot to the story though yeah i did i did once

01:30:26.840 leave a guy in my hotel room he fell asleep he just kept dragging on about how i do only fans and

01:30:31.640 you can tell that he was getting turned on by it and i my biggest ick is when guys are like so

01:30:36.840 interested in what i do for work because that's my work so when i'm talking to you about it i'm just

01:30:40.040 talking to you like it's my work so if you're like talking to me and you're kind of getting excited

01:30:43.640 you're thinking you're gonna hook up or something i'm just like i'm so turned off yeah so luckily

01:30:49.400 he fell asleep in my room luckily um i went for a shower because like if anything's gonna happen i

01:30:53.880 may as well shower be fresh anyways i didn't i wasn't really into him but i was like sometimes

01:30:57.240 you just have to put up with some things um but when i was in the shower he fell asleep and also while

01:31:02.040 i was in the shower i got a text from another guy that was in the hotel there was an event going

01:31:06.600 on and he was like come say goodbye to me and i was like okay and i went up and we did our thing

01:31:11.960 and then while we were doing our thing his coach and his manager were like knocking on his door

01:31:16.280 to try to get him to get on his flight because he had an early flight and then they just joined

01:31:20.040 in and oh i would like got a text then from the guy that was asleep in my room and he was just like

01:31:24.200 did you leave and i was like yeah i had to go say bye to a friend and then i never heard from him

01:31:28.920 again but that was good though because he was weirdo haram uh okay so that's uh that's pretty

01:31:35.240 interesting um we'll come we'll come back to that later uh molly did you have a response to the chat

01:31:40.680 that came in yes okay so um for me i think that uh relationship stability and those little dopamine

01:31:49.320 hookup hits come together um i kind of utilize both so for me like i have sex for work with people

01:31:59.880 that aren't my boyfriend so like yes it is very chemically draining after you have an orgasm and like

01:32:09.000 obviously you're tired you're depleted of all of those crazy dopamine whatevers and um you get a

01:32:16.040 little sad so after my scenes when i'm driving home the only thing that's like oh like i'm i'm not gonna

01:32:22.600 be alone like i'm gonna have my boyfriend like we're gonna hang out and he's gonna love me and

01:32:26.280 like he's gonna be so proud of me because i did work today and yeah like it all just kind of ties in

01:32:31.800 like if i if i didn't have those little dopamine hits i would feel like i was in prison and i'm

01:32:36.760 sure he would feel the same way so it just it all works out oh we have another one coming modest hikima

01:32:42.040 donated two hundred dollars charlie stole my usual question of what even wearing my matt walsh flannel i

01:32:49.400 n wtf so uh spawn of satan how much more traffic do you expect to your from nips rather than wearing

01:32:57.560 clothes all right they're spicy tonight a uh modest acama thank you appreciate it um about three percent

01:33:05.320 more traffic about 3.5 more traffic this is what molly's expecting um charlie it sounded like you're

01:33:10.760 about to come in on something do you have something quick on that no just uh look dopamine is a very

01:33:17.000 serious chemical it if you mismanage it it leads a lot of people to self-harm and to depression and so

01:33:22.600 but there are ways to healthily manage dopamine and it is ways such as fulfilling work purpose

01:33:29.880 relationships a spiritual life uh eating healthy intermittent fasting cold water exposure um so

01:33:35.880 just be very careful for whatever it's worth not that you're going to listen to what i say because

01:33:40.040 if you start to if you start to overindulge in cheap dopamine hits then you're going to need a bigger

01:33:44.120 and bigger dopamine hit um and then eventually you get to a place where you can't hit that high again

01:33:49.880 and then you crater and you crash and my prayer for all of you is that you don't have to don't

01:33:54.280 have to live through that because it's pretty dark i want to bring it back because the trans topic came

01:33:58.680 up before and if i can try to relate it to dating here i do want to go around the panel on this

01:34:04.760 do you and i mean this could go both ways but to the panel do you object to a man not wanting to date

01:34:14.760 a trans woman do you think that would be transphobic if a man did not want to date

01:34:19.320 a trans woman starting with you we'll go around the panel go ahead i don't i don't think so i don't

01:34:24.520 think it would be transphobe no and any trans advocate who says that it is is like a psyop

01:34:28.920 there to make trans advocates look bad i don't think it's transphobic at all it's perfectly fine

01:34:32.600 to have genital preferences okay same pixie everyone's allowed to have whatever preference they want

01:34:38.840 okay i agree yeah i basically agree as well i just think it's preference concur okay all right fair you

01:34:45.800 don't need to know my answer now how about this though to kind of take it to another layer you

01:34:51.480 know dating apps are incredibly popular most people are meeting online nowadays on dating apps social

01:34:57.480 media whatever um do you think that uh somebody's trans whether trans man trans woman do you think they

01:35:05.720 have a duty to disclose for example on the dating app a duty to disclose that they are trans uh and if so

01:35:12.040 at what point should they you know for example should it be on their profile during messaging

01:35:17.720 before a date is scheduled on a first date second date before intimacy after intimacy um any thoughts

01:35:24.840 on that starting with you um personally first off i hate going first i get a little nervous i know it's

01:35:30.840 tough you're in the you're in the hot seat i'm in the hot seat but i don't mind um well personally i feel

01:35:35.960 like they should definitely before intimacy definitely and also

01:35:44.520 maybe even before like they start building an emotional connection because if you want somebody

01:35:49.960 to really accept you and love you for who you are you should you know totally be honest and come out

01:35:54.760 with everything that's what i think any thoughts i think that they should but for that trans person's

01:36:00.920 own safety not necessarily for the benefit of anybody else and as far as i know most

01:36:04.920 trans people already willingly disclose this because it's obviously something that's going to

01:36:08.360 come up very quickly in their dating life so i mean but i have a question why not both porque no

01:36:13.560 los dos well can i ask you a question sure do you think people should disclose their race

01:36:19.160 should they disclose their race on a dating app i'm not totally sure how that's relevant but um

01:36:25.880 i think isn't there race to some degree race or ethnicity race ethnicity like i'm sure a mixed person

01:36:32.600 say that they're half black what i i mean i'm not really understanding the question but um which

01:36:39.880 part well if they should disclose if they're half no i'm asking if you think that like people should

01:36:46.200 disclose like race ethnicity like if you are half chinese or if you're half black or anything like that

01:36:51.800 no i i mean i this is not a topic i've really given thought to but charlie's wife donated two hundred

01:36:58.280 dollars i love you babe i'm so proud of you and so blessed to be your wife great discussion is that

01:37:05.720 actually she's very busy right now okay all right well thank you maybe maybe erica okay all right um

01:37:15.800 wait what's that is it yeah it's her oh okay hey erica what's up that's cute w's w's in the chat for

01:37:22.440 erica w's in the chat but you haven't given it much thought but what's your gut reaction should they

01:37:28.360 disclose well you know i'm wondering i'm thinking i'm not on any dating apps currently but i do think

01:37:34.600 on hinge for example there might be a section to and i'm trying to recall if there is something where

01:37:41.560 you can actually you can actually put your race like if you're native american if um should should

01:37:47.560 somebody have yeah but should they i don't think so why not why not uh i think it's a bit different

01:37:55.960 though i mean i it's certainly it is different but i think that kind of hesitation is kind of what you

01:38:00.760 articulate from like you're articulating perfectly what trans people feel like is that i know that

01:38:05.880 they will i think it's a little different though i think it's quite different i think it's quite

01:38:09.560 different um but what i i would like to allow everybody else to answer the question so

01:38:13.880 i forgot the question what oh if they should like disclosure at what point should it be i think

01:38:20.680 they should only for like i mean obviously the safety of them i think okay well and maybe also

01:38:27.240 for the benefit of the other person although it seems like aaron you object to you don't think there

01:38:32.120 should be any benefit to the person on the other side i think there will naturally be a benefit to

01:38:37.800 it but i don't think you're entitled to know that information any more than you're entitled to know

01:38:42.120 their race not starting off from the dating profile i think eventually yes sure well if

01:38:47.720 somebody i'm trying to think in the same way like the race ethnicity thing how to tackle that

01:38:52.280 but i i think that can be very readily apparent just by looking at their photos or like sexuality

01:38:57.080 for example because you can't tell someone's gay or bisexual well there is a on uh hinge i do

01:39:02.040 believe you can specify if you're straight if you're bisexual but is it a red flag if they don't do

01:39:07.080 that to you no not necessarily but i mean even i think on on on your end i think you're and actually

01:39:14.600 i do think on hinge there are these filters and i do think you can include i don't know if it's your

01:39:18.920 skin color your race or whatever i think it is your race or ethnicity uh you can list it and you can

01:39:24.760 also filter by it uh same same with uh sexuality too there's certainly not something there for your actual

01:39:31.800 sex though there's no uh i mean you can put your gender but we know that well that wouldn't

01:39:41.560 necessarily indicate that could be inclusive of trans people yes so oh did you answer the question

01:39:50.280 kind of okay pixie did you have something yeah i basically was just saying like for the safety of

01:39:54.040 them i guess yeah okay i was gonna say um you should but only if you're like going thinking about this

01:40:00.440 person as like somebody who you're seriously gonna date i see it similar to like for example

01:40:04.440 like political orientation or whatever sure um where it's like i this is another reason why like

01:40:10.680 i'm also not a big proponent of hookup culture because it's like i feel like when people hook up

01:40:14.440 they're not really they're just hooking up there's no um necessarily like set of like morals or anything

01:40:18.920 to follow like beforehand very much because it's like a very casual encounter people don't feel like

01:40:23.080 they have those duties for each other charlie's ex-wife donated two hundred dollars hey charlie you better

01:40:29.160 not be edging to sophia or angel right now you've been looking a little too much anyway see you

01:40:35.400 later babe xo kisses do these make you uncomfortable or you just find them funny i think it's hilarious

01:40:40.600 okay okay good good good because i i was i was like oh shit it's okay okay i got worried too i was like

01:40:48.280 they're spicy guys i i live on the internet i've seen a lot okay cool a lot of things

01:40:52.840 so thanks for being a good sport i appreciate it go ahead so i'll try to wrap it up basically like

01:40:57.960 if i'm on a dating app and like looking to hook up with someone i would never like what i said before

01:41:03.240 like someone who's a super hardcore republican i would not want to sleep with them um but they don't

01:41:08.040 have necessarily an obligation to tell me their political orientation unless if i explicitly asked

01:41:13.720 so that would be kind of on me um but if i'm gonna start dating that person seriously then it's like oh

01:41:19.800 okay like yeah we should talk about our values and be like open and transparent with each other

01:41:24.280 so that's my take what about you i agree as well yeah with who with her with both of them yes okay

01:41:31.880 any thoughts on this um yeah i think it should be disclosed for sure if not like in their bio

01:41:36.760 within the first few messages i feel um yeah okay molly i agree it's definitely something that should be

01:41:44.280 disclosed uh very early on in the relationship um i was gonna say put it in your bio but then you mentioned

01:41:49.560 safety and i was like oh that's a really good point so like obviously you can't tell someone

01:41:55.320 what to tell them about or to tell you about themselves um but if you're dating someone you

01:42:01.560 kind of have like a moral obligation to be honest yeah be honest be your most authentic self in front

01:42:07.800 of them um and i think it's kind of um deceitful not to tell them i would feel like i my time was

01:42:16.040 wasted if i showed up to a date and they didn't say anything sure and i think probably most trans

01:42:21.080 women are they disclose up front most of them although i haven't when i was back on the dating

01:42:27.800 apps i did encounter someone was actually quite you know on hinge how you can have prompts and answer

01:42:35.000 prompts um someone seemed very uh polit like very political in their answers and uh they i forgot

01:42:42.840 exactly what but they were trans and uh they said it's nobody's business to know if they're trans

01:42:51.320 which i i thought was interesting uh but uh i do think it should be disclosed pretty much as soon as

01:42:58.920 possible when you say encounter it sounds like you're like pokemon hunting and you found like a rare

01:43:03.080 pokemon or something in the wild what about religion you there's also uh you can you can put religion

01:43:12.520 on there do you think that people should have to should you have to identify yourself as a christian or

01:43:16.600 a jew or a muslim or atheist no i don't think you should have to but i think it's it's certainly very

01:43:22.280 different um i would imagine i i think somebody might feel a little bit more bamboozled if they

01:43:32.840 turn up to a date and this person's actually a male that as compared to someone omitting their

01:43:39.640 religion religious convictions are very personal like charlie was saying sure you probably would not

01:43:45.000 date somebody who is not also an evangelical right but it's a bit more of a bamboozle

01:43:50.120 i think like if it's so important to you that you you go on a date with somebody who's your same religion

01:43:57.160 i think there is some burden on the person who really cares about that that they should ask and

01:44:03.400 if the person omits it from their profile i do think though um it's a different bamboozle it's a

01:44:10.840 bit of a different bamboozle it's different but like is it different enough to warrant a different

01:44:14.600 social protocol is all i'm asking i think so all right yeah i think so i think the deal breaker

01:44:20.200 should or you communicating the deal breaker should lie on yourself basically if something's

01:44:25.560 a deal breaker for you maybe you should have to put no trans people in your bio honestly you'd

01:44:30.520 probably i feel like i've seen these dating apps you might get banned if you uh if you were to even

01:44:37.000 even in the most diplomatic polite way if you were to say that i do think you might get reported and

01:44:44.360 banned because even this is grinder so this is like gay men or whatever but there were men putting like

01:44:49.560 no chinese no asian people that's why i made the comparison between race i don't believe that they

01:44:53.480 banned those but it's a prevalent thing within bios to see that sometimes on those profiles and yeah

01:44:58.680 but grinder is a very like hookup app oh totally yeah well i think most of these apps are hookup apps

01:45:04.840 unless if you but hold on you said you said the chinese thing like when you say chinese do you mean

01:45:09.720 like are you all like specifically chinese that's what they that's an example of what grinder was seeing

01:45:17.000 in their users that people were saying specifically no asian slash no chinese or like no japanese they

01:45:21.560 were specifying specifically by ethnic because there's different kinds of age you know yes there's

01:45:25.160 there's thai korean there's chinese laos no yeah well these racist people to me were like going so

01:45:31.800 far as to specify specifically which asian mongolia you can keep going it's a beautiful south korea

01:45:37.000 yes so many north korean well that's why they did asian japan china philippines taiwan i miss

01:45:43.960 philippines are you are you uh filipina i am yes okay oh there we go okay captain captain your

01:45:49.800 lieutenant donated 200 sofia it's been over a year since you went viral for failing to answer this

01:45:57.400 question can you now name 10 books rest of panel plus charlie name three books you can't repeat an

01:46:04.760 answer or use a series so you kind of went a little bit viral a little bit somebody asked you to

01:46:13.880 somebody name 10 books yes name 10 books for us so and i wasn't able to name and i still can't name

01:46:21.640 it i'm not a big book fan i don't like let's go let's hear it i like i like podcasts i like listening

01:46:27.960 and i like a visual sure you know i'm with you um visuals way better good night moon

01:46:33.720 i got some kids books i um there's like diary of a wimpy kid oh okay wait okay okay let's here

01:46:41.080 let's do a count okay so that's one oh we're actually doing time yeah you gotta go 10 you

01:46:45.240 gotta do six something literally the bible you got this you got power power art of seduction

01:46:54.280 uh isn't that a book art of seduction yeah robert green yep um

01:46:57.480 um i'm gonna say what i said okay is it valid what i said in the podcast have you guys i don't

01:47:04.040 just just repeat so i said the game of thrones series and i'm not gonna lie i'm gonna air myself

01:47:08.760 out we can only one that only counts as one you can't you can't do this all the harry potter

01:47:13.320 a feast for crows clash what's the what are they the fire and ice yeah a song of ice and fire you can

01:47:20.520 only only one book from like a you know a series okay okay that's fair and then i said the twilight

01:47:25.640 crows twilight twilight okay that's five what else you went viral for the you should be you should be

01:47:32.760 ready no no no that's the thing i i had a choice i was like i was either gonna be ready or i was just

01:47:38.120 gonna stay true to myself okay five books and be honest what else you got you already have four

01:47:43.960 okay um think movies a lot of movies are based on books yeah that's true why are you giving her

01:47:49.160 stop giving her layups let her let her think okay how about how about let me brainstorm some

01:47:53.720 brainstorm um you can get back to me maybe in like an hour or so or required reading in school

01:48:00.200 how about three more just three more and then we'll we'll move on three more you guys really

01:48:05.240 want three more books while you're brainstorming i'll just say that the average american has not

01:48:09.480 read like more than a book in the last year or so so don't feel too bad that's an indictment of like

01:48:15.960 everyone in this country to be fair to be fair a lot of people came up to me saying like i i can't name

01:48:21.640 10 books on spot either and a lot of people can you wait wait wait it's relatable can you name

01:48:26.680 10 rap artists oh yeah oh yeah go go go easily uh louzy uh cardi lucky man there's so many okay

01:48:37.560 nikki um wayne uh kanye uh um um god i'm on the spot right now i hate being put on the spot this is

01:48:51.000 this is why i should stop doing podcasts um jay-z jay-z uh cardi oh no not this cardi have beef with

01:49:00.600 right now she's she said yeah autumn um is that 10 has that been 10 shapiro he raps now yeah rap god

01:49:09.640 ben shapiro there you go beautiful okay moving on moving on she she made her it was a good effort

01:49:16.040 it was a great a play a for the the effort here okay all right now it's brian's turn name three

01:49:22.120 10 countries name 10 countries yeah come on you were doing all the asian ones i just thought you

01:49:27.800 were really ready for this azerbaijan austria let's maybe b burma is that still wait is burma still yeah

01:49:35.960 burma it's also yeah c cameroon cambodia let's go to d denmark let's go to f finland

01:49:46.040 let's go to g germany france luxembourg lichtenstein that's my that's my personal

01:49:54.360 favorite i've been there the netherlands um the gambia russia beautiful is that 10 was that

01:50:04.680 time yeah thank you thank you thank you okay that's i wish i could answer that confidently

01:50:11.160 i think his strategy of the like a b c i think that's smart you know it helps out a little okay

01:50:17.320 all right um wait so we were on the i think we kind of finished uh going back to politics a little

01:50:23.560 bit here you know going back would you date somebody who's pro-life starting with you i know it's hot

01:50:33.560 seat but uh oh man why do i always gotta be sure um yes into the mic yes yes i would yes because you

01:50:45.480 can be pro-life but and still pro-choice and there's as long as they're pro-life and not anti-choice that's

01:50:49.960 to me the key distinction wait i'm a little can you clear i'm a little confused there are plenty of

01:50:55.160 democrats if you pull democrats like for example like a lot of catholic democrats are joe biden our

01:50:59.480 own president personally is pro-life so he would not feel comfortable probably having a wife that's

01:51:05.320 admitted herself to procure an abortion but is okay with it being legal and i think that's the

01:51:10.280 important distinction not whether or not they personally are so yeah sure i can agree with that

01:51:17.240 yeah i think generally um i don't know it depends uh if they're super pro-life to the point where it's

01:51:24.600 like oh the mother's health is at risk and you still shouldn't abort then i'm like whoa slow down

01:51:30.120 there buddy i don't know how i feel about that but without those extremes yeah sure yeah i agree um

01:51:37.320 about the extremes if they are too extreme then um maybe no um but um i would still date someone who's

01:51:45.080 pro-life if they weren't too extreme okay i'm kind of the same i don't think it becomes a problem unless

01:51:50.840 i get pregnant unexpectedly and then i don't want the child but i'm sure if it was a good relationship

01:51:55.480 anyways and i get pregnant i would want the child anyways too even though i am pro-choice i don't

01:51:59.720 think it i don't think it gives that much of a conflict um obviously depending on the circumstance

01:52:05.480 but molly i agree uh you can be pro-choice and pro-life at the same time and that is really the only

01:52:13.320 way that i would be able to be in a relationship because i'm pro-choice but i can also respect that

01:52:18.680 the person that i love is not okay uh charlie any thoughts here um yeah i'm just curious when

01:52:24.120 would you guys say human life begins that's like a philosophical question for the ages when there's

01:52:31.160 a heartbeat when there's a heartbeat or no i guess now we have three different answers so i'm just

01:52:37.720 we have a i will presume a group of women because we all you all self-described as women i'm kidding

01:52:43.160 um what when does life begin heartbeat i must still stay at birth even though i know that your

01:52:50.760 cells can be forming a brain stuff in the uterus um but yeah i think you're not fully a human until

01:52:57.320 you're born okay and you said heartbeat right okay i think it's very difficult to answer i think mostly

01:53:04.120 consciousness and personhood is really what people are seeking to identify and i believe how would you

01:53:09.080 have i'm sure you have to know how long is like how many weeks was a full term of pregnancy oh it's

01:53:13.880 it's a good question i know very well uh it's uh it's it's about 38 39 weeks 40 is like at the

01:53:18.760 furthest of gestation so as far as i know like around 30 weeks is when you see like typically like

01:53:23.640 most development of the fetus has taken place so i would say like around but yeah no i mean so

01:53:29.000 heartbeat is right around six weeks brain waves are even before that um and you could do an ultrasound

01:53:34.600 at right around you could start to ultrasounds at eight weeks and you can see the full

01:53:38.200 full being right around 12 weeks and right around 25 26 weeks are now the earliest cases we have

01:53:44.840 of babies that are able to survive outside of the womb does anyone have any other answers on that

01:53:50.760 one no i mean um i'm not like educated scientifically enough about the biology of all of it but i agree i

01:53:58.920 think that um life is a very subjective term you know you could say uh when does the infant's body in

01:54:06.840 the womb start functioning or you could say when do they start perceiving their consciousness um

01:54:15.960 and for me it's when they start perceiving their consciousness but truly i have no idea when that is

01:54:21.640 do you think it's do you think it would be important to let me ask you this if you knew for

01:54:26.120 certain the baby would you agree it's a baby is that a good term to use if it's in a womb is that a baby

01:54:32.600 i think most people would say fetus yeah okay so what does fetus mean in latin i think a fetus is

01:54:39.400 a growing child it's a you're right molly you know it means a little human yeah um it's just using

01:54:45.480 fetus is nothing more than a cope for what you know it is it's a baby right so it's just obviously not

01:54:50.120 if we're here debating it i don't think it's as well then what you don't have to use the word

01:54:53.160 fetus it makes people feel better it's obviously a baby no i mean obviously you wouldn't take like you

01:54:57.320 know a fetus that just has like a heart and like their brain isn't fully formed and be like that's

01:55:02.040 the same as like a one month old like we obviously see differences between development from then and

01:55:07.240 there so but then how about 30 weeks that's where it becomes a lot more contentious but the point being

01:55:12.440 is that we don't look at a fetus from its beginning stages and be like yeah that's the same thing as my

01:55:17.080 like three month year old cousin hold on that's a nine month old is not the same thing as a one month

01:55:21.800 okay right so you can go through the progression of development continues the question is when does

01:55:27.160 it start yeah that's a million dollar question i agree with that so do you think conception of

01:55:31.560 course that's the only answer most women i don't believe even know that they're pregnant before six

01:55:36.600 weeks but so like around like these the heartbeat yeah but the knowledge of your pregnancy doesn't

01:55:41.160 mean that you're not pregnant no no that's not what i'm saying but i'm saying like practicality wise

01:55:45.720 there are many instances of women who act who have miscarriages without even ever knowing because it

01:55:51.240 might just present as like a very heavy cycle that month that's fine but it doesn't make it any less

01:55:55.560 a life right sure go ahead molly no but do you would do you mourn that miscarriage in the same way you

01:56:00.840 mourn like an abortion like not the same way no it's not the same way no but it's still it's still a

01:56:05.960 tragedy a miscarriage is a tragedy so even if she doesn't know about it but an abortion is an act of

01:56:11.880 human will a miscarriage most times is not now sometimes it can be a miscarriage because you drank alcohol

01:56:18.280 and you didn't know you're pregnant or you might have taken a drug that had side effects but yes

01:56:23.000 a miscarriage is a tragedy yes i have a question um so do you care about the children once they're

01:56:29.880 born i mean i care a lot about them yeah so how so if a if say a woman got r-worded or something or

01:56:39.480 even if she just got pregnant and grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars right

01:56:46.040 life is not subjective and we know this because you were speaking of killing why is it so easy for

01:56:52.040 you ladies to kill kids if your comfort and lifestyle more important than to life um anyway my question

01:57:00.200 what what was i saying oh if you were saying if somebody was someone got like someone forced sex

01:57:05.080 upon themselves it's the word you're even like not even just that but say like if the mother like

01:57:10.920 was homeless or something say like she didn't have a good life do you still think that child deserves

01:57:15.640 to be brought into the world just to suffer well so it's not a guarantee of suffering number one

01:57:20.680 one second one second one second the answer is yes the life should be brought into the world

01:57:24.280 there are twice as many people on the adoption waiting list then let me ask you guys and i don't

01:57:30.760 i'm just curious how many abortions do you think there are a year in america i have tens of thousands

01:57:34.840 i assume any other guesses what if i told you there was over a million abortions every year

01:57:40.920 that wouldn't surprise me at all but you went from tens of thousands to a million i mean there's

01:57:45.560 billions of people on the no no no yeah there's 340 million in america that's right no but do you

01:57:50.200 think as far as like reported ones because even just reported data is going to be incomplete

01:57:54.520 that doesn't count mythopressinone which is the chemical abortion that people have at home it

01:57:58.840 doesn't count plan b right and even if like abortion were illegal for example we stopped gathering data

01:58:03.240 on like who procures abortions there would be so many there's so many now even with states where

01:58:08.440 it's still legal texas it's gone down dramatically so hundreds of no they're still happening it's just

01:58:12.920 no they're happening not being accounted for 90 percent of women are just doing it to themselves

01:58:16.680 right it's a 90 percent abortion reduction rate in texas i don't want to dwell on that too much

01:58:20.280 though i'm just so there's a million abortions every single year and there's twice as many people

01:58:26.280 on the adopt there's two million people actively on the adoption waiting list so there's really no such

01:58:31.000 thing currently there could be but currently of an unwanted child so there's two million people

01:58:35.880 wanting to adopt and there's a million people that have abortions every single year so there's twice

01:58:41.240 as many people that want to get a child now there's a longer conversation about making it less bureaucratic

01:58:46.680 without allowing bad people to adopt kids for bad reasons i'm perfectly open for that conversation but

01:58:52.440 um to answer your question i don't love the premise it's a good it's a really good question because a lot

01:58:57.480 of people have it i don't necessarily believe being born in poverty is a death sentence or is

01:59:03.400 a reason to terminate no no i but abortion is a death sentence so i don't think poverty should

01:59:09.240 give you a death sentence would you say abortion is murder oh of course 100 do you think that people

01:59:13.480 who procure abortions women specifically a woman who procures an abortion should go to jail for getting

01:59:17.720 one absolutely yeah they're the moral equivalent of auschwitz really yes um millions of millions of

01:59:23.880 women are basically the same as like nazi death camp guards the women are victims they're lied to

01:59:29.160 90 of women do not see an ultrasound before they have an abortion they have no idea what's happened to

01:59:33.320 them they're the victims here it is the abortionists that are doing this but let me ask you and i mean

01:59:37.400 this have you guys ever seen an abortion on a video i'm sorry if women are the victims here why should

01:59:42.200 they be jailed well i don't believe they should be jailed you just said the abortion how is it that

01:59:47.000 you couldn't believe that abortion is murder but a murderer shouldn't go to jail i didn't say that

01:59:51.320 the doctors the abortionists the people that call themselves doctors the people that put women under

01:59:56.120 general anesthesia and go into but women do they ask they are doctors they're medical are you going to

02:00:02.280 just discount the accountability of my current perspective is because the women are not given what

02:00:06.760 is called informed consent that the women should not be penalized they should not be um they

02:00:12.120 shouldn't be penalized in fact they should be given grace from a system that has lied to them

02:00:15.720 and has misled them they are not given the full picture of exactly what's happening to them informed

02:00:20.040 because that has not happened so these women are the victims the abortionists one second the

02:00:24.120 abortionists are the ones that know exactly what's happening and if you haven't seen a video of an

02:00:27.400 abortion i'm not going to say anything too graphic it is one of the hardest things to watch the baby

02:00:31.320 fights the baby struggles the baby dodges the baby avoids they break the neck of the baby they

02:00:35.640 euthanize it through the spring it's not it's not a joke and then they tear it limb from limb through there if

02:00:39.960 you're trying to tell me that's you know that's like if you're talking about yeah like they're

02:00:45.000 called dilation and extraction abortions no no no no hold on a second but if you're talking about

02:00:49.160 a baby has a backbone at six weeks and a spine it has a complete figure it's small it's like

02:00:53.800 probably a small the size of like a grape yeah yes but by eight weeks or 12 weeks and you're

02:00:57.960 talking about the vast majority of abortions are performed in the first trimester no that's right

02:01:02.200 so when you just a type of abortion that you describe is literally like minority of the time and

02:01:07.240 those are wanted pregnancies because usually those women want those pregnancies they weren't

02:01:11.000 able to they don't know they're pregnant until they're six weeks to your point they weren't

02:01:13.400 able to carry those abortion those children to term because of health risks to their own life or to

02:01:18.280 the infants right so without getting into that no no infant should be terminated because a health

02:01:23.560 risk to the infant okay that's insane it's like you're going to kill the baby because the baby has

02:01:27.320 health risks not just health risks these are deform like oh let me ask you these are medical hold

02:01:33.960 on down syndrome like should we abort down syndrome kids no no iceland has they said if you have down

02:01:39.480 syndrome you're done so that's not a new phenomenon they have gotten rid of down syndrome if you have

02:01:43.560 a dna test of down syndrome they abort the kid i think that's cruel and unusual that is yeah okay we

02:01:48.360 agree good i think there are frivolous reasons to procure abortions but i don't believe that that

02:01:52.040 just because there are frivolous reasons to get them that means it should be outlawed but should murder be

02:01:56.600 outlawed yeah but like you were saying then you even though you believe that those women have a hand in

02:02:02.760 committing the murder and infanticide basically of their own children they don't believe that

02:02:06.760 they have not been given informed consent do you have people who are addicted to drugs do you think

02:02:11.880 only drug dealers should go to jail but not people who actually try to buy drugs and consume them it

02:02:15.720 depends what drug it is depends the category the class is there a single drug where you would say

02:02:19.720 that somebody who is buying and consuming drugs that they are addicted to should not be going to

02:02:23.800 jail but they're only their drug dealer should be going to jail i mean i think fentanyl and heroin

02:02:28.120 potentially but it's a completely separate issue because a lot of people know the informed consent of

02:02:32.280 heroin and fentanyl it's not like we have psas we have billboards stop using fentanyl stop doing

02:02:36.920 fentanyl how many times have you heard that have you ever but they have a chemical dependency now

02:02:40.520 that prevents them from being able to make that how often have we ever had an honest conversation

02:02:44.120 with women in this country saying that having an abortion increases the threat the chances for

02:02:48.840 depression anxiety medication dependence um having a kid having children carries all of those same

02:02:56.920 risks you think having children you think having children no don't mischaracterize me no that's not

02:03:02.680 i'm not going to say that having a child necessarily gives you depression that's what she said it can

02:03:07.800 come with it like postpartum depression for example is it's temporary and short-lived and obviously

02:03:13.480 not always

02:03:15.560 that's temporary and short-lived it's that's not permanent you think but when years of living

02:03:20.840 with postpartum depression can simply constitute a temporary so medical issue let's theoretically

02:03:25.960 even grant so so you're saying because of potential postpartum depression or financial burdens

02:03:31.320 the moral answer is allow women to go in no that was never my argument this had nothing to do with

02:03:36.040 morality this was a completely separate question i'm only saying that i feel like you're trivializing and

02:03:39.880 downplaying how serious conditions like postpartum depression can be when you want to write it off

02:03:43.960 it's like a temporary medical it's obviously when it can be years-long battle look having children

02:03:49.320 is a serious choice out so what percentage of abortions according to the guttmacher institute

02:03:54.200 are not rape not incest and not life of the mother what percentage would you say the vast majority

02:03:58.440 97 so is abortion now birth control yes or no no i don't think so i think that's uh situational to

02:04:07.080 each and every molly do you think that birth control it could be called birth control in certain

02:04:11.320 situations you're talking about over a million abortions but there's tens of millions of women

02:04:14.520 that are on birth control that are had that have iud's that take birth control pills so obviously

02:04:19.400 that's not the only reason why but it's a form of birth control is it not because you acknowledge

02:04:25.480 that it's not the predominant form of birth control i didn't say that and hold on i said it's birth

02:04:29.400 control yeah but we're not disagreeing with the category i'm talking about the prevalence if it's

02:04:32.680 birth control then what why would we allow it to continue if it's not if you put the rape incest

02:04:38.840 life to mother with we can debate i didn't but no i'm going to put that aside for a second then why

02:04:43.400 should we allow a horrific procedure to continue that has such heavy and dire consequences and

02:04:50.120 results in a child not being able to live outside of the world because you're loading it so much by

02:04:54.520 saying a horrific procedure most women who procure abortions actually report being happy long term

02:05:00.360 because they made the choice because there's many different reasons why women get abortion some women

02:05:03.640 aren't in a financial position to have a child at that time and actually decide to have children

02:05:07.240 later why how'd they get pregnant what do you mean they had sex unprotected so wait an accident they

02:05:11.880 they want the orgasm without the responsibility do you think the majority of women are having

02:05:16.520 orgasms and sex are you serious have you seen the studies on orgasm gaps between men and women

02:05:22.120 honest so they want all the pleasure they want all but it's it's you want you want all the loose

02:05:28.200 lifestyle but none of the responsibilities now now you're you're framing it like the punishment for

02:05:32.680 having it should like orgasm should be punished no no the way that you're framing it no it's not a

02:05:37.320 punishment oh you want the loosey-goosey parts of sex like the orgasm if you don't want the

02:05:41.320 responsibility of a child it's like yeah some people want to be able to have sex okay no you you

02:05:44.760 articulate it perfectly you i'm going to be able to have sex how i want and if i have to go put a

02:05:49.480 dagger through i'll have someone put a dagger through a child for me then so be it i sure i guess

02:05:55.960 no that you're being morally clear and basically it is it's my body i can do whatever i want with it

02:06:00.840 it even though let me ask you a question even though i like i said most women don't regret

02:06:05.080 their abortions at all like the vast majority of women say report happiness and being okay with

02:06:09.640 their decision i'm sure you think that they're lying or they're indoctrinated so but if it's not

02:06:14.040 your dna how is it your choice what if it's not your dna why is it your choice it is no it's it's

02:06:20.120 the baby has it's your partner's dna and then it forms into yeah it has its own unique dna that's not

02:06:26.120 yours here it's part of your dna it's half oh so should the man then be able to have veto power

02:06:32.200 over abortion well the point is the man isn't the one incubating child so i thought it's what if it's

02:06:36.840 about dna if you if you i never made the dna argument you did the argument that i was going

02:06:41.160 to make was i was going to ask you the question um do you think another person has a right to your life

02:06:46.680 and your body does another person have a right to well they might technically because abortion was legal

02:06:52.360 when i was in utero someone did have a right to my life and body okay and my mom chose life

02:06:58.760 praise god so did all your moms yeah the argument abortion are you glad that she didn't have an

02:07:03.800 abortion no so you would rather be dead i don't know i mean life can be if she didn't exist you

02:07:09.640 would not be able to even know what you never material would have never materialized a couple

02:07:15.480 people wanted to come in really quick it looked like you wanted to come in i'd like to give you an

02:07:19.320 opportunity to speak then i think you had more pixie than molly go ahead go ahead um it was just

02:07:25.720 back it's backtrack um just on what he was saying on not wanting to have the responsibility um i think

02:07:31.640 that's really i don't really think that makes sense because i don't think sex is just for reproduction

02:07:37.320 um it's just like asking you you know like every time i'm not trying to bring in your wife but you

02:07:43.080 know every time you have sex with your wife it's purely for reproduction i feel like that is very

02:07:47.480 inaccurate so i mean it's hard to expect everyone who isn't in in a marriage to just not have sex

02:07:54.360 just because they don't want to get pregnant or just because they don't want to have that

02:07:56.920 responsibility wait did you make did you even make the argument that sex is purely no i don't think

02:08:01.560 you did angel's making a good point and i want to give her credit for this which she's saying and

02:08:05.080 it could be misunderstood that i was saying strict sex is strictly for reproduction what i was saying is

02:08:09.800 that everything in life has consequences and choices right and at times the mainstream predominant

02:08:15.400 narrative is that sex comes with almost no downsides and we're going to give you either the technology

02:08:20.200 the procedure or whatever to try to limit those downsides um but the difference is that when my

02:08:26.520 wife and i have sex if she results to be pregnant which she she did is that we live with that consequence

02:08:32.760 which happens to be a positive consequence right a huge blessing now i understand what i'm saying is

02:08:37.080 very very radical and very unpopular but the ideal should be far less people having premarital sex and

02:08:44.520 trying to have sex within marital guidelines or at the very least monogamous guidelines okay so that

02:08:49.560 if there was to be a pregnancy that that baby could be loved and cared for and brought into this world

02:08:54.040 i understand it's a it's a it's a hard ideal to even grasp and comprehend in a world where everything

02:09:00.680 is very sex positive and sex abundant but it's an ideal that i i defend nonetheless nonetheless i mean i

02:09:06.520 don't think there's anything that's in contradiction with being sex positive but also wanting to help

02:09:10.280 prevent unwanted pregnancies i would not i would just say to those women and those people having

02:09:14.520 sex that you should be using birth control and family planning methods to make sure that you

02:09:18.840 don't have any unexpected pregnancies that you don't want to have to skip the abortion part altogether i

02:09:23.640 don't think anybody loves their abortion i'm just i only said that people just don't regret them

02:09:27.560 are you guys familiar with what's happening with the um chemical abortion craze that's going on right

02:09:32.840 now the pill that no not the pill that's different that's i'm talking about uh where they're mailing

02:09:38.280 chemical abortion packets oh yeah where women are bleeding out and emergency room visits are up

02:09:43.160 nearly 300 percent you know it's you guys should look into it it's a very serious thing and why is

02:09:48.440 that because abortion harder it's because women don't have access to safe abortion so they start

02:09:53.960 resorting to these sorts of methods there's no such thing as a safe abortion let me be really

02:09:59.080 there were millions of women that got an abortion but you're going to say that none of them

02:10:03.160 where and all of them died after all the babies did but did the women is it safe is it unsafe for

02:10:08.840 a woman to procure an abortion but it doesn't answer that question is it unsafe for every single

02:10:14.040 abortion every single you know it's not unsafe that's why hold on let them answer every every

02:10:19.240 single abortion has a victim necessarily and many many times has a woman full of regret that we are now

02:10:27.800 seeing and i'm not going to make up numbers out of nowhere but there is a growing community of

02:10:32.040 abortion regret including you know people that are speaking out and they're saying i wish i

02:10:36.840 wouldn't have and it resulted in either difficulty to have uh children in the future or mental trauma

02:10:43.480 about their life that's that's a good question or what about the moms like like her mother who i

02:10:48.520 wish i actually had had an abortion because that wasn't the life path that i wanted to go down but it

02:10:52.520 was one that i chose to make do you care about those i care about all people so why why do you care

02:10:57.320 about that specific opinion somebody who regrets not getting an abortion regrets not no i

02:11:01.880 i don't regret that mothers wanted to murder but do you care about the opinions of moms who

02:11:05.880 actually say i have a child but i'm not happy with having a family i actually wish i had gotten

02:11:09.720 an abortion do you think that that why don't they just kill their kid then i think i don't think that

02:11:14.040 it not necessarily follows that if you regret not getting an abortion that you're going to commit

02:11:17.800 murder but it's the same thing yeah just put your kid up for adoption what about adoption if

02:11:21.640 you regret it so bad just give it i don't think most people at that point they're not going to

02:11:25.320 hold on you could drop it why not you regret it no no i'm not saying anything's stopping them i'm

02:11:29.160 saying most people are not going to do that but if you ask them like would you have rather had an

02:11:33.080 abortion or a family some of them might say yeah actually family having a family and raising child

02:11:37.240 is very hard actually i don't doubt that that opinion might be not everybody is fit to be a

02:11:41.640 parent but let me just answer your question really quick why do i care if you cannot get the life

02:11:46.760 question right then you you get every other question wrong when does life begin and i i care about

02:11:52.360 the innocent i don't like bullies i don't like evil and i believe it is an act of evil to destroy

02:11:57.160 destroy those that can't defend themselves including the one million babies in are you

02:12:01.080 pro contraception are you pro women personally or i'm agnostic on the question politically meaning

02:12:06.760 it's legal so be it but i i wouldn't consider it to be a good lifestyle choice including including

02:12:13.240 most specifically hormonal birth control now mind you i'm over my skis on this being a man but i will

02:12:18.200 yield to the growing community of women on both sides of the political aisle that are ditching their

02:12:22.760 hormonal birth control because they say i don't like the way it makes me feel there has or they

02:12:26.680 want an iud which is not one second but there is in growing body of literature by dr daniel amen and

02:12:32.600 many other people that say that show that the pill um increases anxiety and depression and suicidal

02:12:39.000 i'm sorry certain types of ideation so again i am not going to act like an expert on that but there

02:12:43.720 is a there that's a legit community online of people that are ditching hormonal birth control i think

02:12:47.960 the way that you're like phrasing things of like oh no like murdering the babies is quite interesting

02:12:51.960 because i don't think in like any other example where we have a person and their life is somehow

02:12:56.200 connected to someone else they decide like hey i don't want to do this anymore like i don't want to

02:13:00.040 give my kidney to this person um i don't want to continue this blood transfusion i don't want to

02:13:04.600 continue this process we wouldn't go and point at them and be like you're a murderer so i just think that

02:13:09.400 there is a distinction to be made here when you're saying like oh no they're murdering babies um by just

02:13:13.800 deciding that like hey actually i don't want this like fetus to continue using my lungs my blood my organs

02:13:20.200 to continue developing like would you call somebody who doesn't want to have like

02:13:24.440 give a blood transfusion or give a kidney or something that's a good question that's actually

02:13:28.040 a good faith question so if i had the specific type of blood type okay and in a hypothetical desert

02:13:33.880 island there happened to be a medical facility and somebody right there needed a blood transfusion

02:13:38.280 and i said no i would be complicit in their death yes okay i'm saying that that is the extrapolation

02:13:43.560 of the hypothetical so if what is it to the point that you should be punished if you refuse to render

02:13:49.320 aid to that let me finish okay so if the government decided hey you know what like let's say joe biden

02:13:56.920 is put in the hospital and you're the only person for whatever reason in the world that can like give

02:14:02.920 him a kidney and you have to basically give him like constant transfusions of blood for like the next

02:14:07.800 year would be a murder if you decide not to do that well first i would do it even though i can't stand

02:14:11.640 joe biden so yeah just just for the record and if it was only for nine months yeah i'd do it and if

02:14:16.520 you didn't do it do you think you should be punished with jail time it depends the type of informed

02:14:21.240 consent that goes alongside of it which goes back to why i believe women are lied to and women are

02:14:25.320 victims in the abortion process and yes there are exceptions where women really know what's happening

02:14:31.000 very very rare however i don't think the law should go towards women i think they are i first of

02:14:35.960 all i just think that there should be grace and forgiveness because a lot of women go to abortions

02:14:39.320 in crisis they feel overwhelmed they they are they feel um as if the world is against them

02:14:44.520 the abortionists let me be very clear the people that call themselves medical doctors that know better

02:14:49.640 that actually do the very damaging graphic removal of the baby those are the people that i think should

02:14:55.960 be focused when it comes to a lot to your point though if for nine months i would have to live a tougher

02:15:01.160 life for another human being to live i would do that wait but it's not just wait i just i want to be

02:15:06.920 clear would like what erin was saying earlier so do you think the government should be able to punish

02:15:12.360 you for not doing that should you be able to go to jail or should the government be able to send

02:15:16.360 you to jail because you didn't want to give blood transfusions to joe biden for nine months should

02:15:20.520 the government have that ability it depends if i knew the totality if there really were no other

02:15:24.680 options if i said to if all of a sudden in this theoretical stranded desert island in this abstract thing and

02:15:31.000 i had all the informed consent and joe biden was dying and he said help me out bro i need nine

02:15:36.280 months of your blood and i said no i would be at the very least third degree murder yes do you think

02:15:42.680 that in that in that in that stranded because all of a sudden if i let him go and i say you know

02:15:46.920 no i'm not going to give you my blood i'm not going to give you my stuff i personally wouldn't be

02:15:50.440 able to live with myself if i have something that i don't need maybe you guys agree or disagree if i

02:15:54.920 have something that won't and it is my own personal lot you guys could disagree but if i have something

02:15:59.880 that that will be make my life more difficult for nine months to use the analogy right but it meant

02:16:05.640 another life could continue i i would sign up in a second do you think there has ever been a woman

02:16:10.680 who has procured an abortion that had totally informed consent and still went through with the

02:16:14.680 decision of course yes but do you think that that woman who has informed that that's way too

02:16:18.920 hypothetical the answer is no because how could you find them how could you investigate them because it

02:16:22.600 happens every single day there's actually a case right now in texas of a woman who is actually

02:16:26.280 trying to go what you're trying to do lines to get an abortion and texas has said that when she

02:16:31.080 returns they want to put her in jail yes so i i don't believe in that number one and i know what

02:16:35.160 you're trying to do you're trying to paint me on the extreme of punishing women for abortions and i'm

02:16:39.240 going to remain holding fast that i think women are the victims in the abortion industry they get

02:16:43.320 lied to by planned parenthood they get lied by the abortionists if i was in your chair i'd be doing the

02:16:47.480 exact same thing but you deny that there's any women that have informed no i didn't i didn't say that

02:16:52.040 the vast majority of people that get abortions are deluded into getting them i said of course there

02:16:57.560 are nor should the law or the policy be focused towards women and the vast majority 90 95 percent

02:17:03.720 we know this from studies by pro-life groups and we know this by studies not even just by pro-life

02:17:07.880 groups by planned parenthood let's say by bias groups well hold on a second do they do they

02:17:11.960 administer an ultrasound before an abortion yes or no the answer is no in some states they do because

02:17:15.480 it's it's mandated by those state laws yeah well not before those states have completely eliminated

02:17:20.680 abortion now after the fall of roe but there's no abortion or is it that those abortions are just

02:17:25.720 happening in unsafe ways because women can't go to doctors to get them well many do you really

02:17:30.360 think many are states they're doing they're doing abortion tourism many of them they're coming to

02:17:35.400 states like this but let's take california for example let's get less abstract where we hear right

02:17:39.400 now if one of you want to get an abortion down the street they will not give you an ultrasound before

02:17:44.040 and just you know what an ultrasound is it's a three-dimensional interactive image of

02:17:47.960 uh the baby fetus whatever you want to call it uh in the womb um before termination they will not

02:17:53.320 show that and so if to answer your question would what i i first of all i think it would be so

02:17:59.560 unrealistic and i know what you're trying to do you're trying to play into a narrative that really

02:18:03.160 doesn't exist too much you could use the text example that republicans want to like punish women

02:18:07.400 for having abortions hold on a second i i don't i don't like that argument i don't because i from

02:18:12.040 from 12 years old from the first sexual education young girls have in this country is they look at

02:18:16.680 abortion as normal as fine and so they've been indoctrinated that's why i continue to believe

02:18:21.640 that they are victims of a bigger scheme they're victims of a bigger scheme and they should not be

02:18:25.960 punished or held accountable instead you go after the industry itself that knows better there's no

02:18:30.360 comprehensive sex ed in this country i grew up in texas and the sex education that i was given to

02:18:35.160 the extent that i was was abstinence only so that i'm saying don't have sex basically and another thing

02:18:39.960 i take issue with something else that you said earlier which is that oh well they've reduced abortions

02:18:44.680 because they've made it illegal but you know that just because something is illegal doesn't mean it

02:18:48.600 doesn't happen anymore but murder is illegal but birth rates are up so that's how we know it's

02:18:54.120 working were you going off of birth rates or were you going off the fact that there is your reported

02:18:58.440 abortions because doctors refuse to perform them because they don't want to go to jail i guarantee

02:19:01.800 you there are back alley abortions happening right far less than used to happen when the clinics were

02:19:05.480 open should those women have to get back alley abortions well they shouldn't get abortions at all

02:19:09.320 but they're going to it's just a matter of whether it's going to be safe or not okay again that's the

02:19:13.960 murder example there's still a lot of murders and i'm glad murder is illegal on the books it's also

02:19:18.040 the r-word example it's also those so i could apply it equally of course there will always be people

02:19:22.680 that break the law and there will always be people that produce the most graphic horrific content

02:19:27.720 you know illegally online that doesn't mean the law is should not exist the law needs to be a

02:19:33.080 reflection of morality and most importantly the fundamental principle the defense of the innocent how

02:19:37.720 about liberty shouldn't it be within people's purview to engage in like family planning or make

02:19:42.680 those decisions for themselves what is liberty liberty is a concept that has been hotly debated by

02:19:48.840 many political theorists scientists philosophers but liberty is one having the autonomy and

02:19:55.480 self-determination to be able to make as many free and fair choices in their life and society as as

02:20:00.600 as possible fair and so if liberty hurts somebody else is it still liberty no because now you're

02:20:05.480 infringing upon other people's so we have so it comes in contact with other people's rights all

02:20:09.160 the time right so we have clarity but not agreement i view abortion by being a violation of the liberty

02:20:13.960 principle because there's a victim you don't view it that way so we have reasonable fundamental

02:20:18.840 disagreement yes we have reasonable disagreement but there's obviously a victim right there's a baby

02:20:23.240 that needs to be scraped aside cast and put into a trash can that is a victim therefore it's the

02:20:27.880 violation of the liberty principle that we that you articulated brian i want to ask you a question do you

02:20:33.720 think that it's it's consistent in charlie kirk's yeah yeah do you think it's consistent in charlie's

02:20:39.720 philosophy to say that a woman procuring an abortion which is akin to murder should not have to go to

02:20:45.240 jail even though she's effectively murdering her own child her future child well truthfully i'm not

02:20:49.480 really like well versed on this topic so from what you've heard so far do you think that if somebody

02:20:55.080 conflates abortion with murder i'm not the politics guy i'm the dating guy yeah but you know it came up

02:21:01.240 um so uh sorry repeat the question just do you think it's it's consistent in someone's philosophy

02:21:07.000 to say simultaneously that abortion is murder but that the person who actually asks for that murder

02:21:12.840 effectively should not have to go to jail do you think that's consistent or do you think that doesn't

02:21:17.080 make sense i'm not even following sorry i've got think about it if somebody conceives of if somebody

02:21:22.040 conceives of abortion as murder if somebody conceives of abortion as murder yes do you think

02:21:26.520 that if they engage in getting an abortion aka murder they should be excluded from going to jail

02:21:31.240 because they're just a victim do you think that's consistent i don't honestly you're not i don't

02:21:36.200 know you're not representing my argument that's my answer there's an important wrinkle that you're

02:21:40.120 missing which is that the woman in my view and any objective analysis does not get the full picture

02:21:46.280 of what's being done to her the full picture of the being inside of her so that's a very important

02:21:51.000 element you're missing here right but i was saying that even if in the cases that they do

02:21:55.560 and they choose to get an abortion should they go to jail and you wouldn't engage with the hypothetical

02:21:59.560 i want to see so if let me let me be let me be honest if they're what if they did engage in that

02:22:04.760 and all that there should be a national forgiveness for those women and that be and that's what i would

02:22:09.960 say in those very rare cases because what we're talking about is improbable it would be first of all

02:22:15.000 insanely unpopular i'm very aware of that but i i i offer grace and forgiveness to women that have had

02:22:20.600 abortion not to the people that have conducted them i wanted i do want to move on here a little

02:22:25.240 bit because charlie has to leave in about uh 15 20 minutes so uh last thing on the abortion thing

02:22:31.320 just really quick and i think we might have touched on this before i guess just for pixie and you just

02:22:35.480 since you guys seem the most vocal on this topic um do you think that a woman not being financially

02:22:40.600 ready is a valid reason to get an abortion yes all of you okay yes uh what about parental

02:22:47.880 responsibility maybe they could be financially ready but they just don't want to the i the

02:22:56.600 increased burden i guess to to be a parent is that also a valid valid reason i don't think the

02:23:01.800 government has a right to basically dictate your bodily autonomy that's where i draw the line

02:23:06.360 so i have a sure dependent on it so i have a question for you as some uh

02:23:12.920 what do you say to a man who is not financially ready or or who is not perhaps uh not ready for the

02:23:18.520 parental responsibility what do you tell him it's his choice too should he have not had sex is that

02:23:26.360 what you tell a man no no i think they should have been more careful but i wouldn't say overall

02:23:31.320 that they're irresponsible for engaging in sex i'm gonna say accidents happen no but what what

02:23:35.320 is the outcome for a man who is not financially ready or does not want the parental responsibility

02:23:41.000 abortions they call these paper you can write away your parents rights advocates prefer uh

02:23:45.800 i believe that the term is legal paternal surrender legal paternal is the is the solution to this where

02:23:51.240 men can surrender their rights and any claims to parenthood of that they wouldn't have to pay child

02:23:55.560 support right or yeah exactly i think that is the do you think that that's an imperfect solution but it's

02:24:00.840 the closest thing that you could get because you would never have the say over whether or not

02:24:03.800 somebody carries a pregnancy to term somebody else okay pixie any thoughts on that yeah um

02:24:10.280 i guess i just like i'm in similar alignment i think um again i think there's a legal question

02:24:16.040 of abortion and there's like a moral question as well as well as when it comes to like giving birth

02:24:19.880 and that's why i think like even morally even though i might not personally have an abortion or whatever

02:24:24.520 um i just don't think the government has a right to tell you well if you can try to actually answer the

02:24:30.280 question so yeah i mean what do you tell because in all 50 states in the united in the us um whether

02:24:37.800 there's abortion rights or not in that state uh in all 50 states um if the woman chooses to proceed

02:24:45.160 with the pregnancy and has the child uh you know there's certainly going to be some either financial

02:24:50.760 or parental responsibilities that men cannot uh so easily do away with um do you think that it's

02:24:59.240 i understand what you're saying i i what do you tell a man though who's who's like i don't want to

02:25:03.240 have to pay child support i don't want to have to be parentally responsible for for the child what

02:25:07.640 do you say to uh yeah i think you have a legal right to do that that doesn't necessarily well

02:25:12.360 men don't have a legal right to do that in any state but it's really interesting how people who

02:25:17.320 are in favor of abortion become bronze age uh pro-lifers when it comes to uh the the male side

02:25:25.000 of this oh no because you i've said that legally oh i don't think the government should have a say on

02:25:30.920 what you do with your bodily autonomy and i think legally um a man should have the government shouldn't

02:25:35.880 like necessarily force you um to claim childhood or like parenthood over a child that you don't

02:25:42.200 claim to have does that make sense i'm saying that there's like a legal consistency here that i

02:25:46.600 believe in okay so you're in favor of a legal paternal surrender yeah perhaps perhaps in states

02:25:52.040 where abortion is legal yeah yeah and men are already surrendering their children regardless even

02:25:56.840 without that not happening i don't men men can walk out on their men can already walk out on their

02:26:03.400 and can walk out on their children they already do i think it would be better of course but i don't

02:26:07.800 think yeah i i think there there's a difference between like moral and legality and that's where

02:26:12.920 i think we would agree yeah men are already doing this i think it would just be better to regulate it

02:26:16.120 and bring it above board and make it like a formalized legal thing yeah so i have a question

02:26:20.840 you're obviously very pro-life um are you vegetarian i am not a vegetarian yeah i'm vegan doesn't sound

02:26:29.240 even though i'm like well um a cow a cow is not a human being but it's a lot of the life uh it's

02:26:35.640 not a human life i think he's pro-human hold on a second you you you do know that supremacy vegetables

02:26:41.160 are alive too broccoli screams when you pull it from the ground so and by the way there is a moral

02:26:46.520 difference between a cow or a salmon or swordfish than a human being i don't think she was equating

02:26:52.840 them but she was just saying that they have the capacity for life suffering like or like i think

02:26:56.920 that's why i said hold on go rewind the tape i said when does human life begin i did ask that

02:27:01.080 question no i don't think she was calling that into question i think she was just asking like

02:27:03.960 do you extend that to animals because most people no i i do not no i think that we we as human beings

02:27:09.720 have supremacy over animals yeah we should watch and care for animals uh to the best of our ability

02:27:15.240 so we should kill them humanely but um that's what the abortion argument well wait if you really

02:27:22.520 think a human life and a cow is similar then a cow is better than a human life similar as far as like

02:27:27.880 moral worth and moral consideration i don't think that there's going to be like a comparison as far

02:27:32.280 as like in the way that you're making i guess but like people feel this attachment to animals already

02:27:37.000 like they're pets right like a dog or a cat honestly if you ask most people would you rather save a

02:27:41.800 stranger in a fire or your pet your dog or your cat in a fire morally most people would say i'm going to

02:27:47.000 see my pet yeah because that's screwed up because they follow their heart not their head

02:27:51.720 why i have a question wait you shouldn't really quick but i do want to move no you are right most

02:27:56.760 people would save their dog or a stranger when drowning they would save the dog you're right

02:28:00.040 and that's if it was their dog that is i think if it was just a dog and a stranger but to answer

02:28:04.520 your question no i am uh i'm a meat eater and i'm proud of it he's a proud meat eater folks um

02:28:10.760 oh wait really quick you asked about data pro-lifer lila who what what who comes on your show

02:28:16.200 what's her name lila rose lila rose i would date lila rose okay i will become pro-life for you

02:28:21.160 lila all right i'll let her know and perhaps yeah well she's married okay all right let's

02:28:28.360 pump the brakes i i missed my opportunity um so a couple i think some of you raised your hand

02:28:33.560 when you said you were feminists uh do you guys believe in the patriarchy yeah of course the evil

02:28:38.920 patriarchy you know i don't know much conspiracy it's basically it's basically q anon for liberal

02:28:46.840 feminists and brought or sorry chase like he thinks that patriarchy is a natural state of the world and

02:28:52.440 should be brought back to that so how is that q anon if it's like people within your own group believe

02:28:58.040 that acknowledge i disagree with chase about a lot of things and i mean he's he's uh he's been a

02:29:04.280 recurring guest on the show but he's not his views are not a reflection necessarily representative of

02:29:10.600 uh whatever so uh but do you do you think that the like trad cons or people i don't know i think

02:29:16.520 all trad cons believe in this but a lot of them who claim like patriarchy should be the state of the

02:29:20.120 world yeah like the patriarchal family structure i think there's certainly some merit to it but i do

02:29:26.520 everybody and also i think people have different definitions of what that is i mean i certainly don't

02:29:32.520 think that there's we live in a patriarchy currently i don't think we there's patriarchy do you mean the

02:29:39.000 united states or globally or both i mean i think it vary based on uh it vary based on the uh the country

02:29:48.680 that's a good question uh for example the united kingdom has for the past 200 years for most of

02:29:55.160 those 200 years has been maybe it's even more has been under the rule of a queen um we well it's

02:30:01.720 monarchy but i mean well i'm not super a sovereign yeah yeah i'm not super well educated on the it's

02:30:08.040 more of figurehead but so yeah yeah exactly uh but uh going back to my question patriarchy you guys

02:30:15.640 believe in the patriarchy is their patriarchy what about the other panelists here uh sophia is their

02:30:20.920 patriarchy you seem very strong strong opinions on the patriarchy oh do i do i really is there

02:30:27.400 a patriarchy um can i use the bathroom the patriarchy is dictating sheep loose energy donated 200

02:30:37.720 brian how are you not going to invite josie when you got destiny's librarian on oh josie greater than

02:30:43.720 screechy four eyes alpha joe dirt the ring feminism 304s and simps okay

02:30:50.920 all right hashtag stole my audio fingers number eight at 18 hashtag i want the smoke okay uh lp

02:30:58.440 i got like five minutes we can wrap it up okay yes definitely definitely yo lp thank you appreciate

02:31:03.960 it um okay so i think the uh well i wanted to do one thing with sophia yo sophia you got can you wait

02:31:10.200 like five minutes yeah before you use the bathroom i wanted charlie's uh thoughts on this um and got

02:31:18.040 yeah yeah we we're gonna have a little bit of reverb issues uh but uh just bear through it and then i'll

02:31:25.240 fix it once uh next time we get to it um sophia i was curious um sophia you do only fans um i noticed

02:31:32.920 in some of your photos nick if you can pull them up oh gosh oh gosh uh zoom it out just a tad

02:31:38.920 um nick thank you thank you one more nick i noticed you're wearing a cross next yes are you are you

02:31:48.520 christian my so i grew up um catholic i grew up catholic and my mom um there's another but scroll up

02:31:57.400 scroll up scroll up scroll up scroll up come on uh nope uh now scroll down so i can oh gosh i know

02:32:03.160 i was just leaving you just got me across okay next one

02:32:09.320 oh let's get forward scroll down okay all right there you didn't make

02:32:15.640 another cross okay what cheers you up and there's a uh what's what emoji is that the uh

02:32:21.400 okay next okay netflix and food and there's there's a cross and then of course you use your

02:32:31.400 your twitter to scroll down just a minute you use your twitter to um yeah yeah you know you promote

02:32:37.400 your only fans i'm i'm curious do you um while you're shooting your only fans content your pornographic

02:32:43.400 content do you wear your cross while you oh man and i noticed you're wearing a cross i think you're

02:32:49.400 i know i i took off my cross i don't have a cross well that top one is like an altered anyways um

02:32:56.680 do you wear your cross while you're shooting pornographic content i probably have yes you

02:33:02.440 probably have i how do you reconcile are you christian i well i grew up catholic okay and my mom

02:33:10.200 is uh we grew up catholic because my dad and my mom is christian um but i mean my personal beliefs

02:33:17.240 i i believe in god i believe in a higher being um but i'm not as strict as um i would say a catholic

02:33:26.440 would be like a a firm believe like believer okay so i mean i i don't really think much of it and

02:33:35.080 maybe i'm at fault for that but i i wear the cross because i do believe in god and i i love you know

02:33:43.240 i guess just how do you reconcile uh you know wearing the cross sort of still being a catholic i

02:33:50.760 guess with producing pornographic content i guess which does seem at odds with the faith

02:34:01.880 i mean she already said she doesn't think too much about i i don't that's that's maybe that's

02:34:06.360 that's maybe that's where i don't think it's at odds you ever heard of mary magdalene

02:34:09.320 what what is the assertion with her mary magdalene i've heard differing accounts on that

02:34:15.480 are you christian charlie or yeah not mildly christian okay okay yeah mary magdalene was a

02:34:20.360 prostitute yeah um as as inferred in the scriptures but jesus did tell a prostitute in john 8 to sin no

02:34:26.920 more so he loves all he befriended her and he was that is correct he loves all people but he didn't

02:34:31.960 necessarily love what they did sure yeah important okay and i'm only saying that i don't think that

02:34:36.120 there's any point in the bible where jesus endorses her actions but he does have love for her so

02:34:40.120 correct sure okay and so

02:34:45.000 i guess like okay do you think god wants you doing adult pornographic content um because you said you

02:34:51.720 at least believe in god right yes i do okay uh okay well i don't i don't think he specifically

02:34:59.240 likes it but i know that he does love me and i have reasons to why i do what i do okay and they're

02:35:06.840 good reasons sure and it's not mostly mostly it's not selfish at all and sure i actually provide a lot

02:35:13.720 for my family do you think god wants you doing adult content

02:35:18.600 split nick probably not okay okay but um do you have any thoughts on that charlie

02:35:29.640 well i have like broad thoughts in general i've enjoyed the discussion everybody um and i will just

02:35:35.000 make one parting thing sure um thank you guys for a respectful conversation even though we see things

02:35:40.120 very differently and i hope the chat enjoyed it um look for whatever it's worth um if you're if you're

02:35:47.080 engaged in the creation of that content i think god has a better plan for you i know that might sound

02:35:51.160 preachy and not what you want to hear but just maybe you'll have an encounter with god and jesus

02:35:56.120 loves all of you and he can transform your life you transform my life i've had a lot of problems in my

02:36:01.000 life a lot of problems and jesus solves everything um and every day is a new day and um it's a hopeful

02:36:07.080 beautiful life ahead of you and um i know that might not be something you even believe and you might

02:36:11.960 think that all christians hate you and your way of life and um all those sorts of things well i'll

02:36:17.480 say this i'm a pretty firm believing outspoken christian and god loves every single one of us

02:36:22.440 we're all sinners uh and jesus died i mean you've definitely been the most respectful one that i've

02:36:27.800 seen well thank you that's very very kind and i can tell you it's not me if it was me i'd be yelling

02:36:33.560 and screaming it's the holy spirit it really is i know it might sound silly it might sound cliche but um

02:36:40.120 jesus has gone to work on my life and so god bless you guys thank you for a great charlie thank you

02:36:44.360 for coming uh where can the people if they want to you know find more of you do you got a youtube

02:36:49.640 channel you've got we have a youtube channel uh if you guys want to subscribe to it we do a podcast

02:36:53.640 of three hours a day and um you run a great show here thank you for coming appreciate it thank you

02:36:58.200 guys for being great uh co-hosts so you're gonna keep the stream going right yeah we're gonna keep

02:37:02.280 the stream five hours totally yeah yeah um if uh if anybody uh i'm trying to think uh

02:37:10.520 is there anything that we can plug with uh tp usa yeah if you want to get involved with turning

02:37:14.360 point usa it's uh tpusa.com the best way to support me is to take out your phone and subscribe

02:37:19.160 to our podcast the charlie kirk show podcast um and i'd love to come back i think these are really

02:37:24.360 important discussions thank you so much for coming is there is there a local uh tp usa charter here at

02:37:29.080 ucsb we have a lot of students that watch so yeah we're not very if you're local here to santa

02:37:33.160 barbara um you can do it through uh ucsb thank you so much for coming charlie have a great really

02:37:38.040 appreciate it thank you guys w's in the chat for charlie thank you uh thank you charlie again

02:37:43.640 madison is going to be uh joining the panel here i'll uh i need to get up for just a sec guys we're

02:37:49.880 gonna be uh re we're gonna be uh rearranging a couple things the stream is going to continue we have

02:37:55.000 andrew wilson who's gonna do a little uh call and pixie wants around too with andrew wilson so

02:38:00.440 andrew wilson's gonna call in um hold on just a moment guys uh one sec one sec while we get that

02:38:08.280 sorted uh go ahead madison if you want to take a seat all right hey thank you guys so much for

02:38:14.440 time appreciate it it was good to meet you how are you guys doing good how are you more hours pretty

02:38:20.920 good yeah i'm getting a bit sorry i'm not gonna lie my eyes are feeling heavy no i'm gonna lower this

02:38:26.360 really fast yeah yeah halfway through are we are we still alive yeah i wouldn't say there's really

02:38:33.400 like uh if they killed it i don't think they'd be able to reach out for a long time yeah we should

02:38:37.640 see the chat so it'd be fun yeah yeah i want to i want to read chats now i'm curious i know you're all

02:38:42.920 probably like these dumb hoes real boys kill yourself i shouldn't say that i'm just i'm thinking

02:38:50.840 about my dm sorry i really hate this corner seat oh i don't know how was your avn oh my avn was

02:39:10.280 really good yeah oh you went to the avn yeah of course that's why i'm out in the states right now

02:39:14.840 i was going to ex-biz and avn so i was in l.a for a week and then vegas for a week oh that's so cool

02:39:20.360 how many times have you gone this is my second avn yeah there's always the porn convention yeah it's

02:39:27.240 basically like it's like oscars for porn it's so it's so good madison i just joined the fold here

02:39:34.120 be a slut yeah wow literally like you get horny for everyone and then you're like hey can i get your

02:39:39.560 twitter yeah guys we're just getting a couple things we need to fix that reverb issue that'll

02:39:43.960 take me 30 seconds to do uh if you guys want can just you know keep talking you guys can

02:39:49.800 you know continue the conversation that's that sounds like a terrible conversation

02:39:55.640 super awesome honestly i was nominated for like three things wait what's up nick

02:39:59.160 what were you nominated for um best new starlet best three-way sex scene and best girl girl sex

02:40:13.000 nice oh yeah cool and the girl girl was my first first time having sex with a girl so and it like

02:40:19.080 got amazing so excited yeah it's just not an accomplishment like knowing that you're getting

02:40:23.160 recognized yeah i i was really nervous when i filmed it so i'm glad i worked out yeah did you

02:40:28.520 guys do like vlogs or anything i feel like behind the scenes with the avn would be crazy i should

02:40:32.840 have like yeah i do actually my boyfriend goes around and he like takes little videos and pictures

02:40:37.960 like bts did you get to meet fans and stuff yeah bender the offender donated two hundred dollars

02:40:44.760 one thing i would like to mention is that the birth rate in the u.s has dropped below the replacement rate

02:40:50.360 combined that with the abortions and you have a nation that isn't reproducing

02:40:56.200 okay what is it like overpopulation also i think it's true

02:41:00.200 i can barely see any

02:41:01.640 so if abortion is the lesser

02:41:15.480 is it

02:41:16.440 i really wish you could say that

02:41:19.480 what is one in the chat if the audio is scuffed hold on

02:41:24.440 if charlie had it this way i feel like women would be going to tell her questions

02:41:27.320 he said that

02:41:28.440 he did

02:41:28.920 he did

02:41:29.320 he don't

02:41:30.360 he never said that

02:41:31.560 i read that

02:41:33.240 wait i can't say that

02:41:34.760 that's not my favorite

02:41:35.560 i didn't take it back to that

02:41:37.160 that's funny

02:41:39.320 yo is there a reverb

02:41:40.600 one in the chat if there's reverb

02:41:49.400 is there a reverb here guys

02:41:53.400 is there any reverb

02:41:54.440 is there any reverb

02:41:55.720 one in the chat if there is

02:41:57.160 i don't know either i'm like i don't even know

02:42:22.040 is it good now

02:42:23.400 is it good now

02:42:24.200 is it good now

02:42:26.280 is it good now everyone

02:42:29.160 two in the chat if it's good now

02:42:30.600 i don't know why that's happening

02:42:31.960 that's weird as

02:42:34.600 i don't know why that's happening that's weird as

02:42:36.680 it's we

02:42:41.000 it's good now

02:42:42.200 hold on guys

02:42:44.920 oh my god

02:42:46.280 the chat is on fire

02:42:48.280 they said it's good now

02:42:49.480 no but it's gonna switch back

02:42:50.600 look what the chat is on fire oh my god

02:42:55.800 oh they said echoed

02:42:56.680 oh my god the chat is

02:42:58.360 echoed

02:42:59.400 i don't know if the guy's chat

02:43:01.400 it's bad

02:43:02.520 hold on

02:43:03.400 whenever we go to the window tab

02:43:05.800 that's when it gets stuffed

02:43:07.400 i'm trying to figure out why

02:43:09.560 f11

02:43:16.680 it's super weird and i don't know why it's doing that

02:43:20.600 reverb while tab

02:43:22.360 yeah

02:43:22.760 fuck i don't know why it's doing that

02:43:30.680 sorry guys

02:43:31.400 trying to figure this out

02:43:32.520 we should keep calling it jeopardy

02:43:33.400 i don't

02:43:34.360 why does it do that

02:43:35.400 do do do do do

02:43:40.200 that goes on

02:43:42.200 switching to computer

02:43:43.400 wait what um

02:43:44.600 madison that's one in the chat if it's uh

02:43:49.080 go to rad

02:43:50.120 oh i see

02:43:50.840 hold on

02:43:51.240 hold on

02:43:51.400 hold on

02:43:53.000 oh

02:43:53.320 shit

02:43:53.640 what the fuck

02:43:54.200 oh

02:43:55.480 oh

02:43:55.720 shit

02:43:56.120 what the

02:43:56.520 thank you

02:43:57.240 thank you for your guys's patience

02:43:58.760 thank you for your guys's patience

02:44:00.200 okay i think i i i think i have a video

02:44:01.640 i think c has it figured out

02:44:03.080 this is gonna look weird for a sec but

02:44:04.600 it's gonna look weird for a second but

02:44:06.120 it's gonna look weird for a sec but

02:44:08.520 he told me to read everything you say

02:44:11.480 wait it says monitor

02:44:12.520 wait wait wait wait wait wait

02:44:18.200 what

02:44:18.600 nice of that

02:44:22.360 okay boys hold on

02:44:26.040 oh they can hear you they can hear you

02:44:29.080 i don't even have to be talking

02:44:30.280 everyone can hear you

02:44:43.080 hear me

02:44:43.640 it's fixed it's fixed it's all good

02:44:45.800 it's all good it's better

02:44:48.840 i'm the technical genius

02:44:50.440 w's in the chat oh my god

02:44:53.000 okay uh sorry guys we're gonna do a

02:44:55.960 calling too we're gonna get wait i call

02:44:58.040 next on bathroom guys

02:45:01.080 there was a whole lot

02:45:01.960 we're gonna get an answer in the chat

02:45:05.560 all right thank you for your patience

02:45:06.680 we're probably siphoning

02:45:08.360 thank you for your patience

02:45:10.120 sorry about that guys i figured it out

02:45:13.800 all right so uh wow you guys let the man leaves and

02:45:19.720 conversation dies down no i thought that

02:45:22.200 talk patriarchy wins again

02:45:25.560 no you guys could have kept the conversation going is all i'm saying

02:45:28.680 there was no talk look at this taco fillings normally we don't

02:45:32.040 okay thank you taco appreciate it

02:45:34.600 okay guys uh we're gonna try to get andrew wilson on the line let me just

02:45:37.640 check we're gonna get do a calling on discord

02:45:40.440 um i'm trying to think if wait hold on sorry guys one sec we are doing a

02:45:44.600 transition period it's a little difficult when we have

02:45:47.160 one guy's leaving and another guest coming in so

02:45:50.120 who do we have missing here oh we have tina she's coming back one sec guys i'm

02:45:54.200 just checking on andrew we're waiting on andrew working on some computer

02:45:59.960 issues with discord how much longer are you going

02:46:03.560 sorry what's that should i wait till we get

02:46:05.880 to go to the bathroom

02:46:07.000 to go to the bathroom are you asking are you asking me permission to use the

02:46:11.640 restroom patriarchy once again um

02:46:15.880 like should i wait for him to join or should i go right now

02:46:19.400 you need to use the bathroom yeah oh yeah just go yeah you're good

02:46:22.600 okay you have my permission i think you're

02:46:24.680 i grant it i'll grant you're gracious i'll grant it all right we're uh guys

02:46:29.640 andrew wilson we're just waiting on him to get

02:46:31.800 uh some things set up on his end we're going to get him called in here

02:46:35.400 in just a sec while we do that i do want to uh nick let's i'll do the promo

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02:48:48.280 mobilize them to do we're mobilizing um yeah and actually i should oh should i

02:48:53.080 should have said that while i was wearing my military uniform anyways

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02:49:07.320 um so good times good times charlie said endure and i did not jump on it for

02:49:12.440 your sake that was very kind of you aaron thank you thank you very much i don't

02:49:16.840 what i don't even remember what context it was but i did it was

02:49:20.200 modern day debating or modern day what is it no no no i'm saying charlie's

02:49:24.680 charlie said it oh oh good times good times all right that's nice of you

02:49:28.600 thank you aaron all right so um those of you who are single

02:49:33.000 i do want to get into a bit of the dating talk here so

02:49:35.560 you're single aaron relationship you're in a new relationship pixie's

02:49:39.720 single pringle she's single she's single yo yo hold on i'm gonna do it i'm

02:49:44.360 pixie's a homie i like we disagree but she's the homie

02:49:47.720 yo any any liberals in miami

02:49:53.080 get in her dms watching this pod get in her dms she's single she's ready to

02:49:57.960 mingle i like tall nerdy guys tall nerdy guys

02:50:01.640 from the boys oh i got the perfect guy wait nick

02:50:05.720 pull up zach do you know who i'm talking about pull up zach for me

02:50:09.720 i got i got a guy for you you down i mean he's tall and nerdy and that is my

02:50:20.600 criteria let's see okay um you're also single correct

02:50:25.160 single you're in a relationship by the way molly i think we should bring your

02:50:29.080 boyfriend on the show what do you think yes 100 and this is the same guy

02:50:33.240 he's so much funnier than me he's so funny perfect yeah it only if he can do a borat

02:50:39.160 and he's watching this right now so if you what's his name shout out adonis have you

02:50:43.240 always been public about your relationship with him or yeah well we met on tinder before i even

02:50:49.000 started doing porn so i don't know we kind of just like developed oh my god did a bunch of people

02:50:55.480 recognize you on tinder or no you know i was i was 18 like i had just turned 18 oh okay you got it

02:51:01.480 you got it nick she's got it wait how old are you now i'm about to turn 21 oh it's gonna turn 21 you

02:51:08.760 got zach you got that he's got zach okay here we go pixie don't show the you know scroll down

02:51:19.160 you got it okay all right oh scroll down you gotta scroll down a little bit nick

02:51:24.440 put us on the other side put us on the other side and it's probably gonna be left small or something

02:51:29.960 all right uh this is zach very dear friend of mine dear dear friend uh scroll down nick so he's tall

02:51:37.080 and nerdy i think he's six foot five okay that's good hair um he's very he's a sweetheart and he's

02:51:45.000 super liberal so you'll love that he plays world of warcraft he's a giga chat on world of warcraft

02:51:51.800 i don't know if you play any world of warcraft my boyfriend was in his guild based uh look he's got

02:51:57.000 an axe so he can protect you i don't care about the axe that's the least of my concerns you're not

02:52:02.600 and ironically this is like are you more of like a mace you prefer maces over axes is that your thing

02:52:07.720 oh i just can buy my own mace and axe you know but that is unironically my type um would you so if i

02:52:14.280 were to do an introduction would you could i set you up with with my good dear friend i'd go on a date

02:52:20.200 with him you go on a date with him like yeah see how it's your type he is actually my type he's your

02:52:25.800 type oh wait nick are you gonna give what oh wow she's blushing she's blushing making this is so cute

02:52:33.880 i'm not used to you're playing you're not used to what pixie i feel like i don't know i happen to

02:52:41.880 know what wow i think you're really enamored by zach here i wouldn't go on a date i don't you don't know

02:52:46.840 until you actually talk to the person right but okay yeah i happen to know what zach's ex-girlfriend

02:52:52.680 looks like and you look a lot like her so he's probably like you wasn't she blonde you're

02:52:59.240 blonde and pretty looks like his ex-girlfriend yeah you're talking pink sparkles yeah pixie hold

02:53:06.920 on nick i need to google maybe my memory is terrible because and we're getting guys we're getting andrew

02:53:13.080 wilson here in just a sec whoa but first we have to set up pixie first with zach you're saying pixie

02:53:24.120 looks like pink sparkles show pink sparkles yes pretty long names are kind of uh nick click click

02:53:31.160 the one where it shows all right minus the double d's no no no that one out yeah yeah click click click

02:53:35.720 yeah minus the double d's it's like the eyes i don't see yeah pixie shape in the hair not all

02:53:42.280 that i honestly think like you look more like her than pixie does i think her i think your eyes look

02:53:48.760 like there is something a little different maybe a breast augmentation or two i'm not in favor

02:53:56.200 i'm not in favor of you don't endorse i don't like plastic surgery no i don't think i'm not in favor

02:54:01.240 is that why you were checking her photos for plastic surgery and then you just happened to

02:54:04.520 notice the cross no when we were looking through her photos and you saw how do you come to that

02:54:08.680 conclusion because i wondered if you did the research on her photos and found the cross i

02:54:13.160 look at everybody's photos for the thumbnail i gotta make you know and you're looking at the

02:54:17.400 cross you swear yeah looking at the cross somebody did their research the cross not the captions

02:54:23.720 on anything else i did some research i did some research on oh we got people's twitters we got

02:54:28.200 some twitter more twitter stuff from pixie twitter stuff from all y'all do you ever sub to only

02:54:32.760 fans to get like really deep dives no my twitter actually one time because i there was one time yeah

02:54:39.880 i think did this mic get or the this camera looks like it got scooted i don't know um there's yeah one

02:54:46.120 time we needed some intel so actually we have some intel tonight on some of that so uh hold on

02:54:53.560 let me check a couple things here by the way bender the offender i was gone from the island if

02:54:56.680 you're still watching i was gone when your tts came in thank you bender the offender um wait what

02:55:01.240 were we doing zach setting up setting you up with zach if you guys want i'm getting embarrassed

02:55:06.920 if i think yeah well i'd go on a date and see where it goes okay i'm gonna make it happen he lives would

02:55:14.360 you be down to go see him in texas though because he's in texas and he's kind of a homebody um what is

02:55:19.800 it i guess it depends if he lives close to friends of mine or not so that way like i could stay with

02:55:26.360 my friends or whatever because i'm not gonna he has an axe he can protect you i'm not gonna stay

02:55:31.400 at the house with somebody i've been caught on a date well whatever finance or flight how badly do

02:55:35.640 you want to make it happen i don't think so yeah i don't think so all right uh let me guys we're

02:55:40.680 gonna check let me just check in with andrew wilson here if we're gonna get him in here um let's see

02:55:45.640 one sec sorry guys do guests really not recognize that that's osmond cold what i recognize it you do but

02:55:55.000 like i've seen you ask the question i'm surprised at like how many panels don't know who he is because

02:55:58.840 i feel like he's so big well i feel like it's one of those internet things where someone can have like

02:56:02.760 a massive following and like most norm like most people just have no idea who that is true granted

02:56:08.760 he is like one of the most popular twitch streamers so and you asked the wrong person because she's

02:56:12.360 a twitch streamer so she definitely knows who that is i knew his name i didn't real like he's like

02:56:17.480 a giga chat world of warcraft player you know yeah i've definitely heard his name i didn't i don't really

02:56:23.080 had like a face to it yeah um okay so andrew wilson says his mic cord snapped oh he's just scared

02:56:32.600 of us andrew wilson are you able to get a i don't know if you're watching hold on i'll just say it's

02:56:37.400 a long show maybe you could run out to best buy come back have a call

02:56:43.800 i'm just asking about his phone like screaming into it sorry guys we're gonna get back to the show i know

02:56:48.680 you guys are probably like what the hell is going on here but uh i'm gonna i'll check back in with

02:56:53.160 andrew see if he's got a solution otherwise we'll just continue on the show uh as is so um those of

02:56:59.720 you who are single what does that really look like to you because you know i mean they're currently a guy

02:57:09.240 in the picture starting with you sophia um yeah you know you're like you're an attractive girl right

02:57:14.360 i'm sure there's dudes in the picture kind of uh to be honest i'm a homebody like what i like doing

02:57:22.120 is playing video games and watching anime and you know traveling so being single for me is just

02:57:29.480 basically learning more about myself that i didn't even know like i'm finding things out that i didn't

02:57:35.400 even know if i if i was in a relationship i would never find out you know i feel like spending time

02:57:41.800 alone uh is just the best thing in the world so i love being single that's fine so there's nothing

02:57:49.800 nothing you're celibate are you celibate oh i'm celibate no i'm not i'm not until i i mean it's just

02:57:56.760 the ball in the cap okay all right what she's definitely not involved come on there there's no

02:58:04.040 way she's been voluntarily i just i it's i'm very picky so i'm very picky yes very very

02:58:11.560 a bull cell if you will she's a she's a voluntary how long have you been celibate for not the cat

02:58:16.760 uh ever since i broke up with my ex like four months ago i've only been celibate for four months

02:58:21.960 but that's good though yeah i was celibate for three months recently it was so nice it's actually so

02:58:27.080 nice like just kind of like refocusing on like yourself and what you want just not having and then

02:58:33.000 when you when you take away the power of sex like it gets quieter but it's nice it's free and it's so

02:58:38.520 nice when you find somebody or if you do decide to have sex again it feels great you know what makes

02:58:43.880 you want to break your celibacy well i had to to do a collab so for work yeah basically okay word word

02:58:52.280 okay uh pixie you're single yes how's it looking out there in miami bad um i i've gone on a bunch of

02:59:01.880 dates and some of them are good and then some but then i'm also traveling a lot so i can't like

02:59:07.240 consistently you know because then it's like bye and then you lose contact it's sad didn't didn't you

02:59:12.600 recently move to miami where were you before um i was like not recently but yeah you did move to miami

02:59:17.880 yeah i was in boca i was like an hour up north oh so you have you always been in florida um well

02:59:23.480 born and raised in puerto rico till 17 okay then moved to new york for two years then moved to florida did you

02:59:28.840 date in pr at all or no i didn't have my first kiss until 17 okay and that was when you came here

02:59:35.800 um yeah okay got it well have you considered

02:59:41.960 like portland oregon or like berkeley california i i'm just looking out for you pixie you got to go

02:59:48.280 where where the liberal dudes are and i feel like miami florida's kind of pretty conservative right

02:59:55.800 well it's the weirdest thing because they're like conservative but they're not even like

02:59:59.960 trad conservative they're like oh like all the men want sugar babies and then they're like

03:00:05.320 fuck boy conservative yeah and then they're like you know trying to like bribe me with like money and

03:00:11.320 like watches or stuff like that and i'm just like no like i don't want that i'm sorry no i want to find

03:00:16.920 someone i actually connect with she won't even go on like hinge here because she was like no it's

03:00:22.440 worse i i was like i don't and this is california we're talking about i was like it makes no sense

03:00:29.400 for me to go on the dating apps right now because i'm gonna leave in a week yeah you're just here

03:00:33.640 temporarily you want something long term i imagine yeah so it's like what's the point yeah exactly so

03:00:38.440 i mean unless like typically if you're traveling really what's on the table like a casual encounter

03:00:43.400 yeah and i don't want if you don't want that yeah i mean unless you can somehow convince a

03:00:48.840 guy to move out but have you seen her she easily could do that i think i feel like that's a

03:00:56.280 i mean for anybody it's gonna be a stretch to be like after a week after i just moved to i mean

03:01:02.200 you got like a spare bedroom that's happened you want a man who can make up his mind like fast you

03:01:07.400 know okay all right haven't you ever heard that like oh women decide or like i don't know if it's

03:01:11.480 women i feel like the saying is women like oh they decide if they want to have sex with a guy within

03:01:14.680 the first like 30 yeah five minutes something like that do you think that there's any validity to that

03:01:19.000 or no it's probably faster but uh yeah probably so like okay then if you can't talk your way into

03:01:25.960 getting really yes you can yes there's a lot of good talk your way i i don't think that like can i mean

03:01:35.880 how else do you think men get laid there is you got it yeah exactly but i feel like if there's not

03:01:42.200 that initial attraction that's not true you need that initial spark instantly because i

03:01:50.520 really like god tier riz if it was like a no and then it becomes a because well the thing is

03:01:58.360 don't underestimate the influence well actually i don't recommend men

03:02:01.800 involve alcohol in at any level of the courtship process well you can see in attractive men like

03:02:06.760 for me like if i were to like see a man that i think is attractive like i'd be like okay i would

03:02:12.440 probably but like if he opens his mouth and he's horrible i'm like oh never mind but like if a guy is

03:02:17.320 like not like fully my type and he like opens his mouth and he's great i'm like okay so you could

03:02:23.560 definitely talk yourself into it i guess that's fair i guess that's it's been known to happen

03:02:28.680 i mean to your point it's like but i i think when within i think the thing you said was a woman knows

03:02:36.920 within the first five minutes of meeting a guy yeah and i think you can actually i mean that first

03:02:42.280 impression it's not just looks it's also like the way they carry themselves the conversation that

03:02:46.680 they're bringing yeah in that first five minutes the way they hold themselves too so i mean i think uh

03:02:52.200 if their convo is not on point in those first five minutes then can they redeem themselves perhaps

03:02:59.800 from there i don't know it's hard to say but i think so because i feel like a lot of people meet

03:03:04.520 through friend groups so maybe the first time you interacted with them wasn't so hot but the second

03:03:08.920 time if they're like in your friend group you can come around to somebody easily even without them

03:03:12.840 talking you into it or like rizzing you up it just happens yeah okay all right so okay yeah pixie my uh

03:03:19.400 my prescription for you is you need to move to a highly liberal seattle i think would be good for

03:03:25.560 you you do well in seattle is it wait are you aren't you from seattle no i've just been there

03:03:31.720 it like it's cloudy and rainy like yeah but the city's 300 days and everyone's really nice

03:03:37.000 that's not depressing if it's cloudy and rainy though that's cool yeah that'd be a downgrade from

03:03:41.880 miami geographically speaking the men there though they they'd probably love you um you're single

03:03:47.960 what's going on there you got is there a dude in the picture yeah so no not yes well um so i was dating

03:03:56.440 um like casually but looking for something long term uh first when i got broken up with when i ended my

03:04:04.200 relationship um but then after that i kind of gave up um so now i'm just definitely

03:04:11.720 like working on myself and i like being single um i again don't participate in hook hookup culture

03:04:17.720 just because i think it's damaging personally for me um but yeah right now i'm just working on myself

03:04:24.760 because i think it if i were to get into a long-term relationship i think it would be very

03:04:28.760 hard for me to maintain that okay what about you there's come on there's a couple guys in the picture

03:04:33.720 right honestly no like maybe if i was supposed to stop the cap no for real for real majority of my

03:04:40.920 intimacy is work okay molly oh well molly you're in a relationship okay yeah no i'm alone most of the

03:04:46.280 time and let me ask the the girls here who do only fans a question so um does it hurt your bottom line

03:04:54.680 if your fans and this is actually more broadly speaking even if you're not doing only fans but

03:05:00.440 you're a content creator does it hurt your bottom line if people know that you're as a woman streamer

03:05:06.680 anyways that you're dating it's a man and i think the answer is yes yeah yes it depends yeah so would

03:05:14.520 and isn't it the case that various uh female streamers and content creators and women on only fans

03:05:20.280 do in fact have long-term romantic relationships but they actually hide that yeah in furtherance of

03:05:26.280 um well because it gives people that are subscribing to you the parasociality yeah the idea that they're

03:05:33.720 dating you i feel like some subscribers might even like it more yeah yeah i'll pull it back up me

03:05:41.000 personally like um when i had like when i was single um all my fans you know they never expected me to

03:05:48.840 get a boyfriend and i thought that it was going to hurt my income but actually it increased it people

03:05:55.080 really loved seeing me be like authentic like authentically sexual with my real life partner

03:06:01.080 and they kind of insert themselves in his role i think um and on top of that like he's hot guys

03:06:09.480 are bisexual they like him too uh hold on guys i need to check something here okay that's because

03:06:15.240 i've definitely heard about guys like liking i don't know why it's not have a boyfriend and like

03:06:20.280 triggering wait okay why could this now did i did i break something when i fixed the other thing

03:06:27.480 i don't think so nick is the volume can you check the volume for that said monitor only

03:06:32.680 i don't know if that made a difference i don't think that would need it anymore uh that one yeah

03:06:38.120 the monitor is so big that's so weird okay i gotta fix this i'm sorry guys here apollo sorry that this

03:06:44.200 didn't come in instantly we're having an audio issue let me just read it we have apollo what is there so

03:06:49.720 okay apollo shinoda hey thank you man really appreciate it great podcast tonight with charlie

03:06:54.040 madison as usual is the only nine in the room caught like 30 episodes during your eternal winter break so

03:07:00.360 this donation is the least i can do for all that content dude apollo thank you very much for your

03:07:04.520 patronage really appreciate it man thank you i'm glad that you uh wow you really did a uh went through

03:07:09.880 our back catalog there thank you man appreciate it um madison apparently is only nine in the room okay

03:07:15.720 there you go not even a 10. not even to madison sorry madison i'm okay with the nine madison i

03:07:21.240 think you're i know i apologize i need to interrupt the conversation a little bit to get up and try to

03:07:26.040 figure out why the audio is kind of scuffed again i must have tweaked something when i was fixing the

03:07:30.680 other thing um if you guys want to talk shit about me while i'm gone go ahead oh my god about what you

03:07:37.800 were saying about being single and i guess this could open up to everyone

03:07:41.320 um but is it always kind of or how do you differentiate i don't know how to like word

03:07:48.680 this properly but like is it kind of just being single until the right person comes along or how

03:07:54.520 long do you like plan to actually be single um i think personally personally i don't think i'm i'm

03:08:03.400 like planning on a set date um i just think because of my past relationships and who i am right now

03:08:10.760 i think it's smarter for my mental health to be single and to be peaceful um but i also would make

03:08:19.320 um exceptions for someone who i would deem fit not fit but you know um and the right person to come

03:08:29.640 along but i would still make precautions and boundaries and you know stay and you know making

03:08:35.240 sure my mental health is is good um so that i don't ruin our relationship that's good yeah i just

03:08:41.080 saw the chat and they're still rating you i feel like the one to ten system is flawed we're talking

03:08:46.120 about this and it should be a binary it should be zero or one that's why i always rate myself

03:08:51.720 a 10. yeah it's hard or not i think it should be hot or not i don't think that i think the 10 gets too

03:08:55.400 like autistic like trying to pick a number between there you're a 7.35 because you just have like

03:09:03.000 your capital tilt slightly different have you guys ever seen that subreddit the true rate me subreddit

03:09:08.600 where their true rate me is run by like the most insane reddit mods who literally are policing every

03:09:13.960 single comment so it's like if you underrate they'll take you off because it's like no you're supposed to

03:09:18.200 appeal to our objective guidelines and their objective guidelines have like these photos to give you

03:09:22.600 guidelines of like so what a one looks yeah like what a 10 9 8 7 6 all the way down to like one

03:09:27.720 looks like and the 10 is like emrata and then the the like one or whatever would be emrata is a 10

03:09:32.440 i'm not gonna lie emrata is a 10 i wouldn't like according to that r slash true i don't know if you've

03:09:37.800 ever been on that side she was a nine she was like a nine she wasn't a 10 actually wait true rate me

03:09:41.480 yeah they're like super brutal with ratings like pretty much nobody can be over a seven basically yeah

03:09:45.960 it's like that they're just super hyper focused on like if you overrate even by like no pants you can't

03:09:51.720 overrate you can't underrate right what'd you say that's crazy no you laughed it said something

03:09:57.480 oh no just like they they were super strict with the rating yeah so actually funny story on the

03:10:04.200 rating thing oh i don't know if i have that pulled up somebody did a i don't know if you guys saw that

03:10:09.800 there was like a uh date psychology or something they rated the or they they asked like over a thousand

03:10:18.120 people the rankings of various red pill people i was on it oh no and so they rated physical

03:10:26.200 attractiveness and then voice and then familiarity with the person hey fuck it let's pull that

03:10:34.600 shit up yes if you want to pull it up that means you're happy with where you ended up

03:10:39.880 uh date psychology.com just do like uh like red pill physical attractiveness i love how you have

03:10:49.000 the address memorized and you play it off like uh you know just this uh website called date psychology.com

03:10:55.000 it's in our discord oh someone else found it for you guys no i've i found it you found it

03:11:00.760 well no somebody somebody tagged me on twitter about it i think actually is it really worth pulling

03:11:05.720 up yeah i'm curious who ranked number one i'm assuming it has like rollo sartain playing with

03:11:12.600 fire you yeah scroll scroll up nick make it bigger i like this how attractive are red pill

03:11:17.960 influencers rating from a large sample scroll down am i a red pill influencer i don't know

03:11:25.080 scroll down scroll down nick get to the charts let's see the charts blah blah blah i like the

03:11:30.440 methodologies they're very detailed methods yeah okay wait nick make a small is this left oh this is

03:11:37.160 a wow you're number one you're number one wow uh yo right small put us switch us right small

03:11:43.720 right small andrew dates is seven apparently but here's the thing here's the thing this isn't like

03:11:48.520 a w because it's on the score of a seven point so like 3.4 out of seven that's like i'm mid

03:11:55.640 so it's not like a big w but like i mean well you beat everyone else well myself true i did i

03:12:02.200 i do rank myself to you know like five sometimes six you know right now i'm a five i'm a five right

03:12:08.600 now yeah so this actually uh checks out you made the top checks out all three wait scroll up a little

03:12:13.240 bit nick so i can see it a little bigger no like uh i like how underta is the least vocal attractive

03:12:17.640 i know i feel bad for poor australian a little bigger a little bigger there we go okay there we go

03:12:23.960 average influencer ratings given by women okay and then let's uh is there another one by anthony

03:12:31.720 dream johnson scroll down nick physical oh look at wait scroll scroll up

03:12:39.480 okay okay good times dude go on okay oh wow they have one on just you oh well this is like the

03:12:46.280 breakdown so there were females and males and bro i oh who responded four out of four male wait

03:12:53.960 are the above scores influenced by males rating as well or just female so the i'm trying to look the

03:13:00.840 female is 3.4 and the male is wait i think the average rating for from males for me is a four out of

03:13:08.760 seven for females it's 3.4 it's we got 50 50 with people who rated you very unattractive and that but

03:13:16.440 that kind of like makes sense because when you it's also 50 50 for very attractive even there

03:13:20.360 at the more people rated me very unattractive though then then which is i think that's but i i think

03:13:28.360 that's uh look i'm not saying i'm brad pitt over here but to rate me a one i do think like come on

03:13:36.600 yeah you're like it's still better than everyone else come on yeah but those are people that are just

03:13:42.760 like uh mad scroll down a bit do you think these are the other people did they do you know if they

03:13:48.600 asked well i'm sure it says did they only ask people who don't know who you are oh well that's

03:13:52.680 the nick pull it back up there's the familiar familiarity yeah oh yeah yeah and you were second

03:13:58.760 there i saw andrew tables above you window scroll to the window wait what yeah that one so 5.3 out of

03:14:07.640 seven on familiarity for tate and then i guess i'm a 3.5 out of familiarity so i guess these are like

03:14:14.600 how do you know this person and yeah maybe half of the people knew who i was and half but is there

03:14:19.800 selection bias because it seems like i i assume these people know right everyone at least unfortunately

03:14:28.920 i'm only i'm five on the vocal attractiveness so i gotta work on my my uh baseline i gotta work on that

03:14:37.640 do you think most people watch you only listen to this podcast the most people who watch me who

03:14:42.360 like watch the pod do you think they're just listening like a regular podcast or do you think

03:14:45.160 they're actually watching like with a screen in front of them oh it's hard to say i don't know um

03:14:50.680 we we do have good viewership on spotify and i think more more so on spotify people are just

03:14:55.080 listening versus watching but we do have the video available on spotify so it's hard to say we have

03:15:00.200 a chat here from bender the offender ladies do you think that marriage-minded men are going to be

03:15:05.720 desirable in 2024 this is assuming that the men in question are waiting till marriage to have

03:15:11.160 sex oh that's what he means by marriage-minded yo bender the offender thank you man for the chat

03:15:15.480 appreciate it sorry i missed your previous one thank you man good to see you in the chat chat excuse me um

03:15:21.320 ladies ladies sophia we're dying to hear we need to hear from you i've been so are marriage-minded

03:15:27.800 men desirable in 2024 aka men who are waiting until marriage is that that's what it said is that what it

03:15:33.880 means that's what it said yeah not just no marriage-minded men marriage-minded men but

03:15:38.280 read that next oh you're right you're right you're right yeah yeah okay waiting till marriage to have

03:15:42.600 sex are they well let's go we could go around the table on this would you let's say you meet a dude

03:15:48.680 who you like him you know he's a good you like him i feel like it'd be unfair for me to say he's like

03:15:53.880 your soulmate like he's perfect but he's waiting for marriage um i mean perhaps you can answer that too but

03:16:00.120 like you're attracted to the guy but he says i want to wait until marriage to have sex yeah you're

03:16:05.240 not fine fine with me i if i it depends on how much i like him it depends on how much

03:16:11.160 i want to be with him if i do really like him a lot then i don't i wouldn't mind okay yeah he makes

03:16:17.720 less money than you though you're the breadwinner does that change anything i wouldn't mind okay

03:16:24.280 erin no i don't think i probably would be interested in a man who wants to wait until

03:16:28.600 marriage but i also to be fair i don't think they'd be interested in me because that sounds

03:16:32.200 like someone who is extremely religious and very conservative and probably just we're probably just

03:16:37.000 not gonna be compatible crazy guess are let are really uh far left-leaning are there is there no

03:16:44.040 cohort of liberal or left-leaning people that are also religious i or the most part no probably

03:16:50.840 that's more right-leaning yeah i would say so okay what about you i would date someone who's waiting

03:16:55.480 yeah you'd wait okay yeah okay pixie i think i would all right okay a wholesome panel um i think

03:17:05.240 i actually don't think so i don't think i would just because um yeah i also don't think like erin was

03:17:12.200 saying they'd be interested in me again religion and stuff um but yeah i yeah i just i don't think i

03:17:19.480 would be able to and i want to clarify there's no religious people on the left for the most part

03:17:24.120 but there are spiritual people so like crystal girls people like horoscopes there's spirituality

03:17:28.840 but it's not religiosity it's different okay it's a big no for me and i also don't think they'd be

03:17:33.800 interested in me sure molly definitely not i would be really bored and i think they'd be really jealous

03:17:41.240 because i would not stop having sex with other people okay there you have it yeah it sounds like a

03:17:46.200 cook to me honestly thank you bender the offender oh medicine oh i 100 would wait okay good to know

03:17:53.640 good to know um we have some pre-show notes here from everybody that we're gonna get into so or was

03:18:00.040 there something else that we were the tweets there's the tweets oh yeah we got some tweets from you from

03:18:05.880 you guys okay so who do we start with here let's see um oh you know what uh i should i should have

03:18:16.040 brought this up while charlie was still here um molly you you recently uh had a little viral video on

03:18:21.800 twitter i don't know if you saw it post on clown world no i saw it you saw it okay so um molly and

03:18:27.960 you're still you're 20 right molly yeah okay um you said that body count does not matter no okay uh

03:18:36.360 and in the clip you say your body counts over 100 and part of that i assume is because you've been

03:18:41.560 involved in traditional porn almost all of it's because of it okay yeah do you know what the breakdown

03:18:48.200 is like 80 from shoots and i mean like i could probably count on my hands how many civilians have had

03:18:55.960 sex with so versus veterans like and like i think like i've had i've had sex with less than 10

03:19:03.000 civilians and i've only ever hooked up with a guy once and never talked to him again like everyone

03:19:09.560 else that i everyone that's not informed that i've had sex with like i've had long relationships with

03:19:14.440 them and like most of the people that i've been in relationships also have over 100 bodies so the dude

03:19:22.680 the the guys yeah oh okay um so wait what is what is your total i don't know what what's it over what's

03:19:33.240 it over it's over 100. excuse me okay i just i really wanted really i really wanted okay all right molly

03:19:44.200 that's cool um yeah that's cool um if it was posted on clown world did they do like circus music

03:19:50.600 i think they did like a little i think they played some funk yeah something like that yeah

03:19:56.040 uh okay good times um you i can't actually there's something i did right down here but i don't know

03:20:02.440 maybe i'll talk about later um no do it now no i'll do it later i'll do it later i'll do it later

03:20:08.120 uh okay well we'll come okay we'll come back to body count a little later uh in the convo we're

03:20:14.200 still trying to see if we can get andrew wilson uh there's some mic situations going on so by the

03:20:19.240 way sofia were you did you get an opportunity to uh use the restroom yes i did okay cool cool cool i

03:20:23.640 know i dragged you back here while you were trying to go so i just wanted to make sure that we did

03:20:27.480 that uh let's talk to tina here for a little bit tina i'm scared the first thing you told me was

03:20:33.880 you've hooked up with a trans girl before um did you know i didn't know yeah it was for only fans

03:20:41.720 actually um and it was a bit of a mindfuck for sure like because because you think like okay we're

03:20:47.560 gonna do a cute little like teasing like sleepover vibe video so we're doing a flash but she has no

03:20:52.360 tits and then we're just doing a bit of butt stuff and then uh her dick got hard so i was like okay i'll

03:20:59.240 suck her for a second but it didn't last oh her dick yeah her dick it's a bit mad yeah so i sucked

03:21:04.280 her for a few seconds but i felt a bit weird you sucked her dick i did yeah it's new to me you know

03:21:10.280 it's new i'm learning i'm learning i have a question for you oh god okay i have to ask i have to ask do

03:21:17.480 you think that trans men who and they're not not post-op so they were assigned female at birth but trans

03:21:23.080 men should belong on dating apps in the women's category no because they're not post-op they still

03:21:32.120 have every all the same parts but they're just identify as a man now so elliot page should elliot

03:21:38.360 page born a woman should you be born born female right assigned female trans man should they what

03:21:43.560 should they be allowed what should you be able to swipe on elliot page basically should i should they

03:21:49.160 be allowed because they're biologically a woman so should they be in the women's on the women's

03:21:53.640 dating app saying i'm a i'm a biological woman that makes sense well i don't know if it's really

03:21:59.320 i mean it's it's possible it's it's certainly possible that these dating apps could employ some

03:22:04.680 sort of uh uh in the same way that there's uh the the various filters with height and uh political

03:22:12.040 orientation they could introduce something like if you want to disclose your sex no but if it comes

03:22:19.880 down just to sex do you think like trans men should be self-selecting to put themselves as in the females

03:22:26.280 since they're technically still female i mean it's hard to say i the thing is is i don't i don't suspect

03:22:34.680 most straight men want to date trans women or trans men yeah probably um not but so what's that i don't

03:22:45.800 think most men know but right now but i think it's more men that and like any trans person will tell

03:22:51.240 you this that like a lot of men privately a lot of straight men privately are attracted to them but

03:22:55.400 a lot of athletes too yeah they're more attracted to trans men or to trans women to trans women

03:23:00.440 straight guys okay i don't think i don't think straight guys are attracted to trans men

03:23:05.160 even though they know like they still have a vagina the question is though who would they

03:23:10.200 rather have sex with pre-op we should ask the chat chat nick pull up the chat i want to cop out i

03:23:16.840 want to know what you would say what do you mean if you would would you be more comfortable with

03:23:21.160 a trans guy or a trans woman i mean truthfully i'd prefer to not date either fair enough but if you had

03:23:26.600 to if i had to yeah are you who i who i would like want to have sexual intercourse with yeah elliot

03:23:33.320 page who still this is basically like the the hulk hogan yeah i'm doing it yeah all right brother

03:23:44.360 i would i would i would rather not have sex with either but like if i it was like a bullet a gun to my

03:23:52.680 head are you gonna fuck a pussy or what's the like what is what is the sexual how the chat is saying

03:23:59.480 elliot page i'm surprised the female one they're saying they're saying they'd rather

03:24:04.520 fuck wait we get the whole colgan basically because so what i are you saying in this scenario so like

03:24:10.120 let's okay let's break it down this is a sexual encounter correct yes sexual encounter so the choice is

03:24:15.560 is i can fuck pussy or what a bull or have anal sex with them or have sex with a trans woman who

03:24:25.480 is not post-op so they still have a dick so i'd be you do that i would anals i would have uh i would

03:24:30.440 uh giving or taking i i would be uh i'd be giving top or bottom

03:24:37.160 either topping a trans woman giving is you you're yeah yeah but you could also be bottoming a trans

03:24:43.240 woman but he doesn't many possibilities okay i would rather if i had to choose gun to my head

03:24:51.400 gun to my head i you know i it'd probably have to be the uh the one with the pussy the

03:24:56.920 hulk hogan hulk hogan for the win yeah bro that's straight no that's straight son

03:25:04.920 i take the agitate stance on this where it's like a hulk i think you're you know and your

03:25:10.200 tate describes it he's like it's like this ridiculous hypothetical you're giving me two

03:25:15.720 oh elliot page yeah versus uh formerly ellen page and have you seen juno yeah how tall is she i like

03:25:22.920 short women i think she's elliot page is short sorry i'm gonna get in trouble for that one you're

03:25:26.840 good elliot page is short i just want to say like when it comes to like megan fox with a penis like

03:25:31.400 just like what andrew tate said like you can kind of like move the penis oh my god

03:25:35.880 no i disavow hold on bobby farina donated 200 ladies ladies no decent man is attracted to trans

03:25:44.840 anything and no decent man is attracted to a woman that is casual about sex sorry but it's a fact

03:25:52.280 course correct as soon as you can talk to any trans woman they will tell you different they will tell

03:25:57.800 you that the the men that they hook up with are straight men they're not gay men yeah gay men just

03:26:02.440 don't go for judgment yo bobby farina appreciate your uh patronage man appreciate it um sorry the

03:26:09.480 tate thing with the megan fox versus you can't use tape for this ignore no but it's like you can't

03:26:16.600 ignore hulk hogan's like big muscles like but but the beard you know that the person is trans right so

03:26:23.160 it's like you know you know yeah but does your body you can't always know you would know in this

03:26:30.280 example you know but still like hulk hogan like it's just so much more manly like you're like

03:26:35.640 his rippling uh his eight pack his the chest hair the beefy neck his beard the bandana give me more

03:26:44.280 like i'm a natural pussy supremacist so elliot page even though i'm pretty sure elliot page has had a

03:26:52.200 mastectomy double mastectomy elliot page versus what's the who's a trans woman who's hot i'm

03:26:59.800 trying to think of who's a famous trans woman that's just not really famous trans women of britney

03:27:03.480 kade who brittany kade oh any trans point stars that's my favorite blair white gigi or blair white

03:27:10.360 blair white oh yeah elliot page no no blair white elliot page yes yes yes okay

03:27:22.440 but do you think do you think i'm like wrong is that is that no i don't think you could be wrong

03:27:26.440 on this question i just think it's an interesting like thought experiment you know because i think

03:27:30.200 most men honestly would say they'd rather hook up with blair white than elliot page

03:27:33.400 that's your chat is an exception your chat is an exception blair white or elliot page trans straw man

03:27:43.880 that's why i stick to anal sex see me me personally look that works occasionally like

03:27:49.960 with with a female look anal sex it's nice it's a novelty i prefer i prefer pussy

03:27:57.640 mm-hmm even elliot page is pussy i and no tits no tits and even a beard one day maybe if he grows

03:28:06.440 it out it's fine you don't that's still okay okay pussy okay pussy's pussy okay pussy's i yep all right

03:28:14.680 thank you for as long as the deal breaker is the labioplasty apparently i i am a i am in favor of uh

03:28:24.360 nick if you can pull up my non-profit organization big labia matter blm hashtag blm uh it really is a

03:28:30.600 tragedy that you know women get there's 10 000 labiaplasties a year in the united states and um

03:28:38.440 it's actually way lower than i would have thought to be honest it's not bad so it's one it's one is too

03:28:43.560 many one is yes so 10 000 is a tragedy it is a tragedy i will talk you out of it don't do it um

03:28:50.760 um yeah also you know what i some i thought that occurred to me recently ladies and i want you i

03:28:56.680 want you to weigh in on this oh okay grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars gun to my

03:29:05.080 head give me the bullet i can't go out gay brian if andrew cannot make it i can jump in the office and

03:29:12.280 banter for a bit okay i don't know how we can get you on we're not really set up for it but do grid one

03:29:19.960 thank you for all your patronage man i'm glad to see you back in the chat um well i thought the

03:29:24.440 choice is like you have to make the choice yeah yeah i'm not taking it bro i'm you wouldn't

03:29:29.560 voluntarily do it this is a gun to your head type thing i'm assuming i wouldn't take the bullet

03:29:33.560 though no like it's not that dramatic i know yeah like uh but i don't think i think most people i enjoy

03:29:39.400 living if you most of you if they had to learn for some reason they would see you as if they learned

03:29:44.360 that you hooked up with hulk hogan with a pussy i don't think you going like but hulk hogan had a

03:29:48.360 pussy you guys i don't think most people would see it as straight and they'd be like it was still

03:29:51.880 it's such an extreme well that's why i said it's okay though it's more grounded in reality i think

03:29:58.040 that's more like what the average chance dude like the average chance dude is not like beefed up

03:30:02.120 yeah good times this is great talk um am i gonna can't get canceled for anything i think i was i was

03:30:07.080 fine i don't know i was fair no all right we have yeah it is this our chops game all right antenna boy

03:30:13.560 second time donating and once again it's for pixie still massive hers crazy you'll date zach and not

03:30:19.720 me when i have oh oh when i have the fifth fourth highest rank in tekken also came across the middle

03:30:25.800 girls ig video today apparently she'll give head for buying her a hello kitty plush is that

03:30:34.040 um is it correct are you asking if that's correct um well it's a video it's one of my you should you

03:30:40.760 should go watch it on my instagram she was the mouth that got away okay dope i really like hello

03:30:46.200 kitty though so i mean that that answers your question nick did you show the other chat that

03:30:51.640 came in after this one correct okay you showed it cool cool cool yo antenna antenna boy hey thank you

03:30:56.040 very much we appreciate it do you know who this is me or antenna boy do you know who that is i don't

03:31:01.960 know who antenna boy number one pixie enjoyer you know can i can i link you guys up he's trying to date

03:31:07.880 it's sus they don't have a real picture right it's just an avatar all right antenna boy i put i

03:31:13.640 tried to put in a good word maybe if they were one in tekken she could overlook that yeah wait so what

03:31:18.680 were we talking about we just did that question oh the big labia matter yeah oh i was gonna ask

03:31:24.200 really quick uh you know what occurred to me you know like how there's dudes who who are premature

03:31:29.880 ejaculators where's all the women that are premature ejaculators here's the thing if a woman comes too

03:31:36.760 quickly that's not premature it doesn't no because i don't think that's seen as like an uncontrollable

03:31:41.880 thing it's seen as like the man's talent for the most part like oh you must have made her but i don't

03:31:46.760 truthfully though women who come really quick and i've you know i've been lucky enough to encounter one

03:31:53.320 or two or three it's very rare like a pokemon that's actually just like that's on them typically

03:31:59.560 it's not like the guy's so fucking good like don't say that brian that makes it sound like oh that

03:32:04.040 wasn't that orgasm wasn't my doing it's on them no there's just women who are like

03:32:08.520 insanely orgasmic and just come like instantly and can have like multiples and come it must be nice

03:32:15.000 women can have multiple orgasms well multiple orgasms is more common but there's women who like

03:32:20.200 can it's come like within 10 seconds it's crazy like in a row like like literally 10 seconds after

03:32:27.800 starting sex wow i actually did see a study that said that talked about this with regards to like

03:32:33.640 the orgasm gap that said some of it did have to do with like some women just being really really

03:32:37.400 sensitive and some not having that sensitivity not for lack of like their partner being able to

03:32:41.480 oh yeah you did mention the orgasm gap earlier charlie was not familiar with that or he seemed like

03:32:46.760 kind of surprised because he was like a women just want to like come every time they

03:32:50.040 fuck it's like dude that's not happening i promise but when the thing is i mean i don't know if we want

03:32:56.280 to talk about go around the table on this but there's also another gap that exists women can

03:33:02.200 have multiple orgasms that's not fair some men have a very short refractory period and i bet the

03:33:06.920 porn most men like they're tapped out for at least 30 minutes yeah you're done and you can

03:33:12.440 and you can't keep going like a woman could come maybe she can only come once you know what

03:33:17.800 you know what gooning is oh yeah it's like edging kind of oh yeah is it edging i thought it was

03:33:23.560 when guys like come multiple times like they spend hours coming like over and over and over

03:33:27.240 i could have it wrong if it's edging then it doesn't support my area i have maybe is i've

03:33:31.880 just heard it associated with me and i'm pretty sure for most men once you come it's a wrap 30

03:33:38.760 minutes minimum huh do you think that could be undone do you think guys could work themselves to be

03:33:43.080 able to do what's that like indian kama suit wait no the kama sutra that's like the

03:33:46.920 tantra thank you there you go thank you i don't know man i don't i think that's that's just

03:33:54.440 i don't know i think the real thing is we should be talking about squirt how some women well that's

03:33:58.840 the thing the women who are really orgasmic who come quick they all it also tends to coincide with

03:34:05.000 squirting interestingly do you know what squirt is for me it's mostly urine yeah okay i just wanted to

03:34:10.920 make sure is an orgasm to be honest like i've i've squirted and i've felt a bit released but i've also

03:34:15.880 felt way better sometimes when i was squirting see for me i like when i discovered i could

03:34:21.080 squirt that was like the fullest orgasm i've ever had like my whole body i felt like really drained

03:34:27.320 afterward but i wanted to do again so like it was i don't know i loved it i read somewhere and it's

03:34:32.360 been a while so i might be completely off the mark but that had like a like a different chemical

03:34:36.840 conversation than pee but maybe i'm just wrong i thought it was mostly urine but the rest of it's

03:34:41.640 like water there's like other stuff mixed in but it is mostly urine the way that they

03:34:45.640 know this is that they showed the bladder before and after and it was emptied after so yeah although

03:34:50.840 in pornography when you see squirting here's i've newsflash it's most of it's women peeing themselves

03:34:56.680 it's not them squirting they're just making it's mostly yeah it is mostly urine but you talked about

03:35:01.080 the orgasm gap and uh so you what what is your point with that though like that it's unfair like in

03:35:09.400 casual encounters or even in relationships that women are not climaxing as frequently or even at all

03:35:14.840 as compared to men i think it's unfair to both people because i think it is fulfilling when

03:35:18.280 both people like have an orgasm and come so i'm not even trying to say like oh it sucks only for

03:35:22.680 the women because i think men walk away wrongly but with a feeling of a sexual inadequacy if they

03:35:27.160 can't make their partner come but it's very common for women to not be able to yeah but i just did it

03:35:31.240 in the in the in the context of the conversation we were having i think charlie conflates this hookup

03:35:36.200 culture with women that are like like experiencing tons of pleasure when i actually don't think that

03:35:41.240 sexual pleasure is the reason why people engage in hook women specifically engage in hookups because

03:35:45.320 there's not much to be found in the orgasm department other types of pleasure sure but yeah

03:35:52.840 but it would be too invasive to ask charlie like are you making your wife come every time

03:35:56.680 maybe a little it might be a little much a little much a little much so i mean maybe he was outing

03:36:01.960 himself as like superhero because he seemed to not have knowledge of the orgasm gap so he was like

03:36:06.600 okay not a problem maybe she's just wait question he also waited for marriage question for the whole

03:36:10.840 panel yeah they don't know anything else they've only had sex with each question for the whole panel

03:36:14.840 here of all the men that you've had sex with what percentage of them have been able to make you come

03:36:22.520 one percent one and i'm in a relationship what percentage we'll start with you we'll go around

03:36:28.040 the table go ahead honestly i didn't even know i that females could come until like my third

03:36:33.400 relationships it's so messed up i thought i mean i the pleasure of sex like i i felt the pleasure

03:36:39.560 but it i didn't have an orgasm i agree with you that it can still be sex can still even if you don't

03:36:46.120 climax or orgasm it can still be pleasurable yeah it was pleasurable for me and i also found pleasure

03:36:51.720 in giving so like it made me really happy and it turned me on when they uh felt good same so i didn't

03:36:59.080 even know that i could have an orgasm until i met a specific person um and they actually made

03:37:05.240 me squirt and i didn't even know that i could choose the mouth that got away ever ever since

03:37:10.840 that like ever since that person i've never been able to again rip all right he's in the chat boys

03:37:16.440 wait i was i was i was 19 okay that's just about the or like not knowing that women can come until

03:37:23.640 you're 19 that's crazy because most women that i've talked to they don't necessarily masturbate until

03:37:27.800 later but they do figure out before 19. uh clarifying i was 19 with the squirt thing oh

03:37:33.960 okay you're just talking about that the orgasm with like um a man i probably probably wait clarifying

03:37:39.400 question for you a guy had not been able to make you climax into your third relationship but i mean

03:37:45.480 like yourself were you able to yourself oh yeah okay okay i thought you were saying you didn't

03:37:49.960 discover that feature until 19 i was like that's crazy and so like but the two previous guys you said

03:37:55.800 you were in relationships with them and like did they give it the college try like they didn't

03:38:03.400 like were they trying to make you come i feel like maybe it's because they weren't really experienced

03:38:08.520 okay and i i wasn't either at the time so i didn't really know much about it okay or my body

03:38:14.920 but so was that but the one you've only been with one guy who's been able to make you

03:38:20.040 go the distance all right piece of the chat boys um out of how many i don't know you know

03:38:27.080 out of how many dudes what's the percentage what do you mean are you asking me how much my how many

03:38:32.440 body count i mean i suppose i mean what you don't have to say yes you want me to guess yeah oh god

03:38:39.480 well why don't you tell us the percentage of guys who've been able to i volunteer for action

03:38:44.680 huh what do you get someone in your chat but i volunteer for action

03:38:51.080 oh my goodness what were you crushing i'm sorry what what percentage of the guys you've been with

03:38:55.480 that was able to make me make you yeah he's just asking for your body count so that he can yeah

03:39:02.120 it is actually a tricky thing like if depending on the percentage they give you can sort of suss out

03:39:07.240 i i feel like as soon as i give you my body count you're gonna be like cap cap okay well

03:39:11.640 sure what is it it's eight okay multiply it by three and that's the real number i was waiting for

03:39:16.920 that no okay i'll sure okay i'll i i believe you i believe you uh so only one guy out of eight what

03:39:24.120 any math people here what is that one eighth well percentage is that like decimal wise

03:39:31.960 do i move the decimal you get your percentage 13 percent no less yeah

03:39:35.720 oh my math right there why couldn't your denominator be 10 this would be easy is it

03:39:42.120 i've never been able to do mental math i don't know anyways uh what about you aaron only one and

03:39:47.320 that's why i'm in a relationship the current guy okay even in some of your other encounters no no

03:39:52.280 nope what about you maybe like three

03:40:04.200 i don't want to answer this question is it zero pixie

03:40:09.720 i'm sorry pixie is it zero is it zero

03:40:14.040 it's hard out here okay uh apollo shinoda donated two hundred dollars thank you for the panel

03:40:29.800 except madison who is already red-pilled do you ever that consider later after road hard slash put

03:40:36.440 up wet you will come to realize just how deceived you've been by third wave plus feminism okay all

03:40:42.280 right well we'll we'll come back to the convo but if you guys want to answer it thank you apollo

03:40:47.080 i don't understand i don't understand yeah do you ever consider that you will come to realize just

03:40:52.520 how deceived you've been by third wave feminism basically do you guys realize that feminism has

03:40:58.440 lied to you and it's just a lie and the patriarchy is actually kind of dope i thought the patriarchy

03:41:04.440 didn't exist how could it be dope well it doesn't exist but it would be that's what he's saying you

03:41:09.800 know it would be dope if it came back i say fuck the patriarchy of the matriarchy it's about yin and

03:41:16.680 yang and i think that the world will always be out of balance as long as we're reliant on one gender

03:41:22.840 over the other period have you read the boy problem

03:41:29.560 i object to the title on its face but no you have a copy behind you that's why i'm asking you

03:41:34.120 i think that's what it's called right oh the boy boy crisis the boy crisis problem oh yeah warren

03:41:38.920 farrell yes warren farrell you know what i interviewed him actually but yeah okay well

03:41:42.440 then you know that he wrote the myth of male privilege yes okay but in that book what he really

03:41:46.280 goes on to describe is all of the pitfalls of patriarchy did he yeah because he's talking about

03:41:51.880 how men suffer a lot as far as like combat fatalities of course it's like the go-to men have to like

03:41:56.600 disproportionately shoulder burdens like does he actually say under the patriarchy though yes

03:42:01.160 he does because i i agree with all his points that yes here are the ways in which men suffer i'm

03:42:05.720 not sure if he and i i listened to the audio book but it was a while ago um i don't know if he actually

03:42:12.680 says that men suffer under the patriarchy i don't know if his actual i could be wrong i don't know if

03:42:19.640 his actual position is that we currently live in the patriarchy i don't know that he says current

03:42:23.880 patriarchy but he does say that all of those are manifestations of really yeah i and he says i don't

03:42:30.360 know i'd have to read it the biggest weakness for men is their perceived strength and the biggest

03:42:35.080 strength for women is their perceived vulnerability and like and their perceived weakness effectively

03:42:39.800 but he is talking about that in the context of like men suffering under patriarchy it affects

03:42:43.640 everybody when women talk about the patriarchy and feminist in particular they're not only talking

03:42:47.960 about a system that oppresses women it also oppresses men and all the ways that he talks about

03:42:53.080 i mean i sort of loneliness depression yeah i think

03:42:56.680 isolation gets uh misled because the word feminism is feminine it's woman but feminism is about

03:43:04.360 everyone it's not just about like it's not really clear to me that there's a patriarchy though

03:43:09.240 have you seen the barbie movie i don't think i don't think we should cite to woke hollywood

03:43:15.880 films as a basis for uh having like an actual intellectual conversation i didn't see it i didn't see it

03:43:23.240 why not it doesn't interest me to to see you should it's a rorschach test everybody depending on how

03:43:29.000 you see it can project like oh it's really a conservative movie or it's really a liberal

03:43:32.040 movie there's a lot of conservatives that really liked it yeah that said it was actually like said

03:43:35.800 that barbie was less happy when she rejected the patriarchy but so what is the patriarchy

03:43:40.680 guys on horses i mean i think we have a gynocentric social order so it's not clear to me if we have an

03:43:48.200 actual patriarchy if we do have a patriarchy you know there's this idea that we uh that men are

03:43:55.160 somehow favored in society and men have certain privileges just by virtue of being male i mean it

03:44:02.040 that doesn't really seem no it doesn't really seem apparent to me if we do in fact have a patriarchy

03:44:07.080 where where the social order is to elevate men at the expense of women then i fail to see how that's

03:44:16.520 even possible if more men die in war men are forced into war men are less likely to get a college

03:44:21.960 education more men die on the job um men are more incarcerated men are mutilated upon birth men are

03:44:29.880 more homeless men uh delete themselves or self-harm delete themselves at higher rates um how can it

03:44:36.440 possibly be that there's a patriarchy if all of these things exist oh you're what you're talking about

03:44:41.160 is manifestations of patriarchy because the patriarchy does not only affect men or it's not only affect

03:44:45.720 women it affects men too um and i want to say what is the patriarchy what is the patriarchy really

03:44:50.360 quick on your question of like who has more rights if can we extend this globally because there's still

03:44:54.760 like countries like iran there's women who are forbidden from being able to drive simply because

03:44:58.280 they're women that's the law let's talk within the confines of west of western of western society

03:45:03.320 i think um even in western society when you look at like the people who have made like the rules and

03:45:07.800 regulations for most of western society it has been men because women have been barred from

03:45:12.920 being in finances women have been barred in partaking in war um you know we complain about

03:45:18.360 like hey you know more men have died in war but because they were the only ones allowed to because

03:45:23.320 women were seen as too weak and therefore not competent enough you would not send so women not

03:45:28.520 dying in war it seems to me as if that would be a privilege so it's not a privilege to be conscripted

03:45:35.000 to go die in some trench in france and get trench foot and get shell shocked when you come back do

03:45:41.960 you think most women are in favor of the draft though what's that do you think most feminists are in

03:45:45.720 favor of the draft do i think most feminists well it's sort of a moot point i don't know if moot point is

03:45:52.360 the right word the draft will never be abolished because there's conceivably some scenario in every single

03:45:59.560 country where the country must compel its citizenry to arm itself against some potential enemy so that

03:46:07.080 the draft is never going away but the conscription could apply equally to men and women it should

03:46:10.920 and it ought to or no but but yes but should there just i agree should there just not be war yes but

03:46:19.480 it's wishful thinking no there will always no there will always be worn and but what coincides with

03:46:26.520 a perpetual state of of war throughout the world is there will always be a need for

03:46:32.440 forced military conscription who do you think starting these wars brian well that's it's

03:46:36.680 interesting that you bring that up because actually they've cert they did uh when comparing monarchs for

03:46:41.240 example queens were actually much more likely to wage wars than men than kings rather if we're

03:46:46.680 gonna relegate it to just western let's do western democracies not monarchies but men women had input

03:46:53.080 in these decisions well actually i also want to challenge you on that so fine let's remove

03:46:58.200 monarchs where it's actually been shown if you actually compare uh queens to kings they queens

03:47:02.920 were much more likely to wage war um and oftentimes those words were quite uh deadly when it comes when

03:47:09.480 it came to casualties and were they conservative or liberal i don't i don't know i don't know the

03:47:15.000 political leanings of like monarchs from 300 years ago i don't know i don't know what the

03:47:19.560 differentiation that's truly the variable of who's going to be more likely to lend themselves to

03:47:24.280 start wars i think uh george bush the iraq war the afghanistan war these are examples of presidents

03:47:29.720 that like to wait what were the two were there even two primary political parties during uh like queen

03:47:35.240 victoria or uh like the the reigning queens throughout history i don't know constitutional monarchy but

03:47:40.920 i i would assume that probably like you look at any world leaders uh over like 100 or 200 years ago

03:47:50.200 i would assume by today's standard they'd all be like extremely conservative but we don't even have

03:47:54.520 to go back that far for the monarchy because there's no constitutional monarchy in the uk sure

03:47:57.960 they have like the tories and the labor party sure so i have a feel the prime minister is going to be

03:48:01.880 the one who really is i'm really making that decision can you think of any like female politicians

03:48:07.400 for example who are like massive war hawks yes like hillary clinton for example sure or liz cheney

03:48:13.800 sure there's like women who are standees are conservative though sure how did we get here

03:48:18.840 anyways we're talking about how did we get to the draft we're talking about we're talking about the

03:48:21.800 orgasm gap all of a sudden because i asked you who starts these wars is the patriarchy responsible

03:48:27.320 for the orgasm gap who starts these wars but who starts these wars i don't think it's

03:48:32.600 i don't think that it has anything to do with gender i think we must look beyond gender i agree

03:48:41.560 as to why war occurs i think it has much more to do with power sure finances money exactly why are

03:48:48.680 we gonna play women do you think people go to war because like ah yes it's like i i the valor of war

03:48:55.320 and like i want that glory of war no raytheon contracts pull a pretty penny it's stuff like that

03:49:00.200 it's money and power yeah that's my point right but it has nothing to do with your gen like gender

03:49:06.600 as a male no that's ridiculous no no i'm saying that it's something that that transcends gender

03:49:13.000 altogether and that when you really see what it comes down to with who makes that decision it's

03:49:17.080 going to have financial interests are going to be behind it and then conservative ideology or liberal

03:49:20.840 ideology like ideology and money will dictate that not men necessarily do you think if we had a

03:49:25.480 matriarchy and women were broadly and you know held positions of power do you think that there was

03:49:30.360 there would be a there would be less war no no not necessarily no okay well this but i it sounded like

03:49:39.400 to me you were saying that well under patriarchy there's a greater likelihood of there being warfare

03:49:44.200 so under matriarchy the point i was trying to illustrate by bringing that up is that for the vast

03:49:48.680 majority of history and probably going forward men have been the ones to hold the majority of political

03:49:53.640 office but it's not because it's not necessarily because they're men not necessarily but it's one

03:49:58.360 factor yes like agree at least that it's one for example if somebody's victim of a crime and they

03:50:04.120 happen to be black were they were they does it necessarily mean that they were targeted for they

03:50:12.680 were victimized because of their skin color no not necessarily okay it's probably going to be so

03:50:17.320 so other sort of discrepancies just because a discrepancy exists doesn't necessarily mean that

03:50:24.280 it's because of you know something occurred to somebody because of their gender because of

03:50:29.240 their race because of x whatever trait you want to attribute that's the patriarchy babes it lives

03:50:34.680 throughout all of us it could be upheld by men and women is my point because you're you're speaking

03:50:39.400 to we're both i feel like we're both we're not we're kind of talking about together because we

03:50:42.360 mostly agree that there's examples of men starting warfare women starting warfare and it playing off

03:50:47.320 each other and it not even necessarily coming down to gender specifically i have a question it just

03:50:50.680 happens to have been the case that men was the patriarchy stronger 100 years ago yeah it was

03:50:56.680 strong yeah so would it would it be to the suppose this supposed patriarchy's benefit if women were

03:51:04.360 not allowed to vote yes yeah so explain to me how in 1920 or i guess 1918 or throughout the the 1910s

03:51:16.280 uh you know the suffrage movement how could it be if men had a stranglehold on on the right to vote

03:51:24.040 and we were under like a very brutal patriarchy why did men who had all the control why did they

03:51:29.720 relinquish their supposed control to women couldn't we use the same wait wait wait no wait we'll answer

03:51:35.640 the question answer the question can we use the same analogy when it comes to like the civil rights

03:51:39.640 act for example like why did white people who hold the majority of power give black people like the

03:51:44.680 right to vote or whatever and that answer is the same well i think gender and race is a little different

03:51:49.400 yeah no no but it's it's a basis the basis principle is the same it was a greater amount of

03:51:54.120 protest social pressure it was people basically saying like hey if you don't do this we're gonna like

03:51:58.520 revolt yes and i think i think it was yes i think it's absolutely right that we gave all people

03:52:07.320 the right to vote yeah because i'm in favor i'm in favor of women being able to vote yeah yeah exactly

03:52:13.080 but that doesn't answer my question if there was a patriarchy and it was to men's benefit to maintain

03:52:18.760 men as a gender because you kind of you kind of try to bring it to race for some reason if it was to

03:52:24.520 the patriarchy's benefit for men to be able to maintain power why did they allow and there was

03:52:30.920 a patriarchy why did they allow women the right to vote the patriarchy is a system that can be amended

03:52:36.440 and changed over time which is why it was weaker now than it was a hundred years ago but there is

03:52:40.600 no brand here's the thing yeah during this is like a feminist conspiracy theory that there's a patriarchy

03:52:46.200 because it's just you just agreed that a hundred years ago women didn't have the right to vote

03:52:51.640 because of men i can give you a better parallel that doesn't involve because of men i can give

03:52:55.160 you a better parallel that doesn't involve race do you know who president wait i actually want pixie

03:52:58.600 to answer the question though how could it conceivably be when men did have the power and if there is

03:53:03.720 and was a patriarchy and if that patriarchy was much stronger a hundred years ago why did the patriarchy

03:53:11.160 opt to basically surrender its power to women because if there was a patriarchy because because

03:53:17.400 there wasn't time 1910 to 1920s um correct me if i'm wrong world war one right around the world war

03:53:24.440 two that's world war one world war one yeah um what is it social dynamics were changing women started

03:53:30.680 getting more into the workforce as well women started applying more social pressure the suffragettes

03:53:35.320 were literally like you know inciting bombings and such so yeah a level of social pressure causes

03:53:41.000 people on top to get scared and change stuff just like it's happened throughout history like

03:53:45.160 that doesn't mean that the power structure didn't exist it just means that it's amenable to change

03:53:49.640 with enough pressure they had to shift it to stay in power exactly well like here's my violence

03:53:55.320 yes the mind that didn't involve race i was do you know who president fdr was yes the new

03:54:00.200 deal you're familiar with this okay the new deal was actually proposed wait what's going on back there

03:54:06.040 wait hello hello hello are you guys coming back or

03:54:18.760 okay go ahead go ahead okay so you're familiar with fdr and the new deal yes yes that was actually

03:54:23.800 proposed as a compromise to socialism to maintain capitalism like fdr basically did the new deal to

03:54:30.360 save capitalism because he said if we do not compromise in this way and give people basically civic

03:54:35.080 infrastructure some free health care all of these things they're going to revolt and want socialism so

03:54:39.160 similarly with patriarchy there was you could see voting rights at that point as a compromise which

03:54:44.200 is that we will give we will enfranchise women with the right to vote but we're not necessarily going

03:54:48.360 to give them forced representation because if we don't give them this right which is becoming

03:54:51.560 increasingly popular women could revolt and that would not be good for men especially as women were

03:54:56.200 gaining more economic power because like she was saying they were getting into the workforce so it began to

03:55:00.120 transform so it was a compromise but it wasn't the total relinquishment of their power but then

03:55:04.600 you can just convince those women to vote in the interest of men if the ultimate goal though of the

03:55:09.720 of the patriarchy is to maintain uh men having power uh it would occur to me that it would it would

03:55:19.640 not be to the patriarchy's benefit to allow women to vote and they didn't allow women to vote that

03:55:26.280 wasn't something that men imbued with women automatically women fought for that right

03:55:30.760 the alternative is to have your entire system burn and crash to the ground because people are

03:55:34.280 revolting right so they give that there's actually a fair it's like appeasement there was a fair amount

03:55:38.600 of women who actually and again i just want to reiterate i'm i'm i'm in favor of women voting but

03:55:45.320 there's actually a fair amount of women who did not want the right to vote yeah

03:55:50.920 now what's interesting to me though is that women were able to secure the right to vote without the

03:55:55.560 corresponding responsibility yeah i don't think i think everybody has an inherent right or should

03:56:02.200 have an inherent right to vote i don't think you have to sign up to a draft but that's that's sort

03:56:06.040 of the genesis of feminism is securing rights without any sort of corresponding responsibilities

03:56:12.680 i think the men of the patriarchy then should have forced the conscription when they gave them

03:56:16.040 the suffrage the voting if they were being smart they would have forced them honestly of course i

03:56:20.920 would agree with you that it's unconstitutional i don't think that men should be conscript simply on the

03:56:24.440 basis of sex well right and that brings us back to the whole thing of well the draft is never going

03:56:29.960 away so what needs to occur in the name of equality is you need to equalize the draft between men and

03:56:35.880 women i disagree i think the draft could theoretically go away the vast majority of military yeah the vast

03:56:40.920 majority of um people in military right now anyways um are people from like military families like

03:56:47.080 but and they're not in combat positions the thing is though in the event like you cannot

03:56:53.400 it's not a i'm trying to think you can't get a get rid of the draft i know it's you know rainbows and

03:57:03.000 no i just i think you probably could have abolished the draft what's that there's other countries that

03:57:07.720 have abolished the job which ones i would not be able to name it don't know there's kind of there's

03:57:12.280 countries that don't don't drafts in place but um i think almost all countries i'd have to google

03:57:19.800 this i i'm not familiar with like the the draft situation in cameroon for example but um we need

03:57:27.400 to like western democracy we need to equalize the draft anyways i don't think i do feel like we we

03:57:31.080 should try to include some other people on some dating related stuff but let's be honest you know

03:57:35.640 uh patriarchy's q non for for for you know feminism it's a conspiracy theory it's conspiracy theory

03:57:46.200 guys can i just say this sure less than 50 years ago women were literally it was illegal for a woman

03:57:51.640 to hold open a bank account her own name or have a credit card i would need the fact i need the fact

03:57:56.040 check look it up i promise you i really i invite you to look that that's cool and 50 and again like

03:58:00.920 we can we can have like a compare and contrast the ways in which i'm not doing oppression olympic

03:58:06.600 shit i'm just i like oppression olympic shit because here's here's my whole thing right and

03:58:10.680 this whole patriarchy you know there's this male privilege myth um as warren farrell it's it's totally

03:58:18.280 dismissed by okay here how here's the best way i can put it all feminist arguments about oppression

03:58:29.320 are basically dead on arrival because men have in fact been more oppressed than women

03:58:35.800 i win the victim contest yeah here's the thing all of women's collective grievances fall flat in the

03:58:43.400 face of just one male grievance and that's military conscription what do you think is like

03:58:49.480 an example of a female grievance the very short period for example where um and this is actually

03:58:56.760 related to military conscription the very very short period in human history where

03:59:03.400 some men or most men were able to vote and women weren't do you think it's a very short period of

03:59:10.040 human history because if you look at it i don't have the exact dates memorized but for example uh if you

03:59:16.200 go back to the 1700s most men couldn't vote then too what equalized it was men could be subject to

03:59:23.720 military conscription they had a more and they could go be forced to go die

03:59:30.600 because of that uh responsibility that men had that women works or did not have that was the basis

03:59:40.120 for giving men earlier access to having the right to vote for but throughout throughout most of human

03:59:45.480 history men uh you know most men were not able to vote yeah you're getting you're getting somewhere here

03:59:51.560 with brian and what i would argue you're getting at is that like hey guess what men have been

03:59:56.840 conscripted et cetera et cetera but there's always been a certain amount of people in power who never

04:00:02.680 really have to worry about conscription always kind of had the right to vote and it's usually men who

04:00:07.240 are rich right it's a very small percentage of men though so for the 99 of like the common folk

04:00:14.200 don't receive any of these privileges but the point of the whole patriarchy it's basically the whole

04:00:18.920 idea of it it's essentially an apex fallacy no wait let me finish please you you're attributing

04:00:23.720 you're you're attributing the characteristics of a few the top treatment of like this top one percent

04:00:30.440 of men and keep in mind these men had families and they had wives and they had daughters who also

04:00:35.400 reaped certain benefits but i'm gonna draw a parallel to race here i know you say they're different they

04:00:40.440 are different but give me a second let me make my argument when it comes to like basically the

04:00:45.720 racial history of the united states what happened is that you had some really white wealthy landowners

04:00:51.560 who convinced other people that were poorer whites who didn't have the same benefits as them that hey

04:00:56.280 you know what you are superior than other black people on the basis of your race and the patriarchy

04:01:01.560 does something very similar where you have some very rich powerful men convincing other poorer men hey you

04:01:07.320 know what you guys are superior than women on the basis of your sex you're more logical or you're

04:01:11.880 smarter or you should be entitled to rights that women don't have or you should be entitled to

04:01:16.120 promotions that women shouldn't have you know what women shouldn't even be in the workforce that's

04:01:19.560 where you belong what evidence do you have for that literally all like historical arguments that

04:01:25.400 go against like why women should be able to be in the workforce or why they should have a bank

04:01:29.080 account or why they should be able to donate two hundred dollars chat can you imagine being as

04:01:35.000 brain dead as aaron and pixie honestly i'm favoring demon over these two even though demon's tits are

04:01:41.800 out wild panel you ever traveled international with a man well okay um modest to come appreciate

04:01:49.960 your patronage i mean i actually want to give credit to aaron i think she's very uh she's very sharp and

04:01:54.520 very very smart same with pixie so thank you um so you know definitely not brain dead i disagree with

04:02:01.800 them though on the feminism patriarchy stuff it's on our q a not conspiracy yeah it's it's a it's a

04:02:07.240 conspiracy theory um but uh okay and i again i want to try to reel in some of the other panelists

04:02:13.960 here so i feel like we we shouldn't linger too long on this but i mean just to wrap up my point

04:02:19.160 basically oh grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars more men than women voted for

04:02:27.320 women to vote dot seems women were happy to vote in local elections rather than national

04:02:32.920 more countries require mandatory military service for both sexes accuracy matters

04:02:41.000 yo grid one motorsports hey really uh thank you man appreciate it more countries require mandatory

04:02:46.040 military services wait more countries uh wait the ones that still have the conscription they

04:02:52.600 make women be conscripted to like israel or south korea like women have to serve also most i mean

04:02:57.640 actually there's i don't think they have to do combat necessarily but they do have to serve in

04:03:01.720 the military in a capacity of some sorts well i mean most most countries conscriptions only male

04:03:08.040 um and there's actually in switzerland for example which is a western country uh if you

04:03:14.440 it's you actually have to uh do military service in switzerland for a couple years

04:03:24.440 what's going on okay yeah um and there's actually ramifications as a man only as a man if you don't

04:03:32.440 i think there's certain i don't know if i don't want to misquote it but i think you guys can look in

04:03:37.800 in switzerland you have to um there's some sort of fine you have to pay or that your taxes are a little

04:03:44.040 higher i'm i i could be slightly off here but there are some negative consequences to men

04:03:49.000 if you opt out of um those penalties yeah so um let's not linger too long on that but the point i

04:03:55.400 was trying to make is i think forced military conscription is a bigger grievance than all of

04:04:01.720 women's collective grievances combined so yeah and you mentioned for example that well 50 years ago

04:04:08.760 uh women couldn't open what was it checking it was illegal for a woman to open a bank account

04:04:13.480 i don't know if that's actually true i don't know if that's actually true it sounds insane

04:04:18.280 how much progress we've made in 50 years well i would say if we go back to the vietnam war that's

04:04:23.000 about 50 years ago too there are men who were conscripted which women were not subject to there are

04:04:29.400 men that were conscripted that died that would be alive today had they not been conscripted and there

04:04:36.760 are men alive today that were conscripted who have suffered terrible injuries or ptsd or saw just

04:04:44.120 absolutely brutal things so you know a lot of people say when i bring up forced military

04:04:49.000 conscription well when's the last time there's a draft there are men like i just said who would

04:04:53.400 have been alive today or live today donated two hundred dollars love that i fostered the conversation

04:04:59.320 around the patriarchy but still want to hear from the panel do you ever consider you will regret your

04:05:04.760 life choices later because of the echo chamber you're in they phrased it better this time going

04:05:10.360 around the table if you guys want to answer molly let's start with you go ahead molly uh i know i

04:05:15.000 will not regret my life choices because all the choices i'm making now are getting me one step

04:05:19.400 further to my goals every day that's beautiful um honestly i'm not gonna lie sometimes i do get down

04:05:24.440 about what i do i'm like i can't take it back i'm in it now but then it only lasts for a short time and

04:05:30.120 then i'm like yeah it's just my life i agree with both of them um i love what i do but um i also do

04:05:35.800 sometimes just worry about um you know the fact that it is the internet is forever um i love my work

04:05:43.240 i don't do only fans though so i guess it's like not the same grievances but i'm very happy with my

04:05:48.840 life generally i just gotta find a guy not in miami good times i also agree um i do think about a lot

04:05:57.880 like obviously the internet is forever um but do i regret it probably not i don't regret anything i

04:06:05.720 love my blue-pilled life okay what about you um i don't regret anything i don't think i'll ever

04:06:12.040 regret anything um i feel like i life is so short and it's so fleeting and i don't know i just like

04:06:18.520 to live in the moment of everything oh sorry no i don't regret anything i feel like a life without regret

04:06:24.280 regret is one that you lived so carefully that you basically fail by default because you didn't

04:06:28.200 take any risks or you're just such a legend that everything you've done it's just perfect perfect

04:06:35.400 just a total i'm a legend yeah um sweet thank you what was his name shinobi what's our

04:06:42.840 apollo shinato apollo thank you apollo we have wolf wolfgang puck thank you just donating to give molly some

04:06:50.280 love i love hashtag call me call me a simp ready to be judged you have been judged simp just kidding

04:06:57.720 thank you i appreciate thank you for the patronage appreciate it man all right uh let's get okay

04:07:01.560 finally let's get into some of the you know some of the pre-show notes here let's see one sec guys

04:07:07.640 pulling these up okay okay we got derailed because of the tina said she hooked up the trans girl before

04:07:13.000 we're gonna move on from that uh finndom you do finndom tell us a little bit about the finndom yes that's

04:07:18.600 that's another big income for me i get a lot of cooks and simps cucks i have like a whole army

04:07:23.800 of them to be honest you've got an army yeah basically you've got a cuck slash simp army yeah

04:07:29.640 basically um and they can either just be simps or i have these things called bbc cooks and they're

04:07:35.480 white guys with small dicks actually not always small dicks there's one guy that has a big one

04:07:39.480 but he still just has his fetish of girls and black guys modest hikima donated two hundred

04:07:45.640 dollars brixton i think you either need to look up the definition of the term pseudo-intellectual

04:07:51.880 or stop being a simp i hope it's not the second my dude wait are you simping is when you don't call

04:07:57.880 us brain dead i'm pretty sure that's what they're referencing no i mean i don't think it's simping

04:08:02.680 though for me according to them simping to give you flowers like i think you're a smart person like

04:08:07.080 i don't i don't know basically because you're not calling us a dumb hoe and like you're you're

04:08:13.000 simping bender the offender donated two hundred dollars oh gosh if there is a patriarchy how come

04:08:18.600 women who falsely accuse a man of great perceive little to no consequences um i'm in favor of

04:08:25.480 consequences for people who do that i agree i actually i think i actually think it should be a sex

04:08:29.720 crime to be honest i think you should be on the sex offender registry if you falsely accuse somebody

04:08:34.680 of of that because i mean that's absolutely slanderous libelous i mean and it's pretty it's one of the

04:08:40.120 worst things that can happen to a guy so um good you won't find love here for that word um wait hold

04:08:48.440 on where was oh well i mean just on that though like i actually do think one thing and those first off

04:08:54.680 those of you who you know are supporters and patrons of the show i very much am grateful

04:09:00.840 and thankful thankful for your patronage i do think though just as a measure to almost protect me

04:09:07.960 i do think like the optics of like when somebody does send in like a 200 soup chat or whatever or tts

04:09:15.320 and they're like calling the women on panels like basically ad-hom names it's like

04:09:19.880 it's not even it's not good look for the platform and i think it might make like other women hesitant

04:09:25.400 to come on so i think you can still get across your point without like calling them whores basically

04:09:33.720 so i would appreciate also guys i and again i'm very appreciative of the patrons but like i almost

04:09:40.360 think if you can look at it from if you want to dunk on them in like a polite way a polite way

04:09:46.680 but also i feel like i need you guys to protect me because i do think if i am ever like being

04:09:54.120 considered for the chopping block on youtube like they could take a look at like whoa this is like

04:09:59.640 the tts is really toxic this is the patriarch at work because you're finding a way to compromise on

04:10:04.360 the misogyny so you're like let's keep it a little bit nicer you guys and we don't get the channel in

04:10:08.440 trouble because if you're a little too explicit with it that has nothing to do i'm like well i don't

04:10:11.880 know why you're bringing it to the patriarchy that's just i don't want to get us you're out i don't

04:10:15.320 want to get us your own no but she's baiting you i am no but it's like i i do think i do think

04:10:23.480 for the sake of the channel looks better to be positive i think it'd be like you can still dunk

04:10:27.880 but like i just have to do name calling i think avoid name calling for the sake of me bro you guys

04:10:34.200 want to see me get banned a lot of other people are getting demonetized and i think it should be if

04:10:40.840 they want to do an insult they have to also attack the argument as well if you just say if you just

04:10:45.720 call a name i think it's mean if you call me like stupid but also have a reason here's why i think

04:10:50.200 you're stupid then i don't think that's as bad well it also just looks weak on the person giving out the

04:10:55.320 comment because it's like okay you can't really attack what they're saying so you just have to call

04:10:59.000 them stupid yeah they're also spending hundreds of dollars to do so like that's so pathetic but a lot of

04:11:03.640 the guys who like super chat they're patrons of the show and i do think that they actually

04:11:07.960 genuinely like the show so almost as a like i think that it's it would be good if

04:11:16.040 they take into consideration the fact that youtube has demonetized a couple other people

04:11:23.880 in this space and so in furtherance of keeping my head off of the chopping block keeping the channel

04:11:31.400 off the chopping block i should do as much as i can to you know keep the show obviously you know

04:11:36.840 we can still have these sorts of conversations but do so in as polite and diplomatic a way as

04:11:42.760 possible without you know resorting to uh basically insults so uh leave that to brian

04:11:49.880 no i try not to insult the show for the most part but anyways um okay where were we oh some of the

04:11:55.480 chats came in appreciate it guys uh we have grid one motorsports did i read this one uh

04:12:01.240 brian would could open a checking account at any point in history however in some states a married

04:12:05.800 woman could not open the checking account in her name only and needed her husband's permission okay

04:12:10.520 okay so that tells me that single women were forbidden from opening a bank account because if

04:12:14.360 you the only way you could open a checking account was through being married to a man then you could

04:12:17.800 not reasonably exercise that i would like to do some more research on that i implore you i would like

04:12:23.080 to do more research on that okay uh all right so back to the notes here guys appreciate all the

04:12:29.560 the ttss thank you uh we're talking about finndom yeah you're talking about cucks and simps yeah

04:12:35.240 basically and if for anyone who doesn't know finndom it's financial domination so people just send me

04:12:40.760 hundreds of dollars to insult them to grade them i would never get with them say they're unworthy of

04:12:47.160 me and just kind of uplift myself and put them down and then i also have the bbc cooks and they're

04:12:51.640 basically just kind of like simps as well but they they're into girls that like black guys i don't know and

04:12:57.720 then it's a bit of a race thing but the controversial could be yeah oh if i can just add one thing to my

04:13:04.600 um caution when it comes to because you guys are kind of like part of the community right and so if

04:13:11.080 you guys and i we will come back to you uh so there there's been some like um websites that will

04:13:19.640 actually clip some of the super chats or tts that comes through and it's certainly plausible that youtube

04:13:26.120 could use the super chats or the tts as pretext for demonetizing or somehow getting the channel in

04:13:35.880 trouble so if you guys like ride with whatever and like the channel again if you guys want to like

04:13:41.640 roast that's fine but i think try to roast in as we're like uh more playful more light-hearted

04:13:48.680 or factual yeah like more light-hearted just uh in furtherance of keeping you guys want the show

04:13:55.400 to continue right keeping the channel on youtube keeping you know the channel on youtube keeping

04:14:00.520 it safe um i wish it wasn't you know i wish it wasn't because i sometimes think we air perhaps

04:14:06.440 sometimes i've aired too much on the side of like trying to censor stuff donated two hundred dollars

04:14:11.320 oh erin your math is wrong any woman could open a checking account just married women needed her

04:14:17.400 husband's permission and that was a banking policy not to law please make intelligent arguments the

04:14:24.840 more we talk about this the more money you like do you want to keep talking about it because every

04:14:28.600 every time it gets much he really wants to talk about um maybe we can come back to it later but and

04:14:34.680 then i mean aside just from like my uh my own self-interest when it comes to the youtube channel i also just

04:14:40.440 think for the sake of the other panelists here i think it's it would be good if because i i don't

04:14:47.720 want people to like feel shut down in the conversation and some people some of you are

04:14:52.440 been on the internet you can handle like the toxicity but sometimes we have people who are not quite as

04:14:58.280 involved in the internet space and i feel like it can like really shut feel like make we had one

04:15:03.560 one girl cry yeah when a couple shows ago and so like i it's um so i i wouldn't want someone to

04:15:11.400 feel like oh i don't want to go on the podcast i wouldn't want girls i don't want to go on podcast

04:15:15.960 because the ttss are just brutal and toxic and stuff so um anyways moving on guys um so i want to go around

04:15:24.840 the table from tina's thing um do any of you currently have a sugar daddy or sugar baby

04:15:32.040 or sugar baby yeah any any of you currently have a sugar daddy or had a sugar daddy no no basically

04:15:39.080 like online ones a little closer to the mic if you can no i do not have a sugar daddy but i kind of want

04:15:44.920 one okay nope never have had one either i also don't have one but i would like one so hit me up

04:15:54.600 in the past at all or no nope and i reject it i do wait sophia you don't have because i mean like

04:16:05.800 what about the guys who are on your of is that that's why i said i was like well online okay yeah

04:16:11.160 yeah well what about like uh you don't get dudes dming you directly on instagram or like i want to

04:16:17.320 just pay you a thousand bucks yeah yeah there's people that like directly contact me or like ask

04:16:22.920 to even like fly me out can i have you tilt your mic down just to 10 yeah there's yeah there's definitely

04:16:27.480 people that like directly dm me and like ask to fly me out but sure just for my own safety i've never

04:16:32.360 done anything like that okay uh so okay she said she has a sugar daddy you got a sugar daddy okay

04:16:40.600 he bought this outfit shout out okay there you go molly what about you uh i don't have a sugar daddy

04:16:48.120 anymore but i've had a few in the past okay i'm curious i didn't even answer so you yes answer yeah

04:16:53.720 yeah i don't have a sugar daddy i've also had some in the past so it's just basically your answer we

04:16:58.280 so we had a girl on the show a couple actually she's been on the show twice and she was very much into

04:17:03.320 this like fin dom stuff and she said that she would actually and i don't know if she's exaggerating

04:17:08.680 she would actually bankrupt men and she's and um you love that i love it i think it's hot it's like

04:17:15.240 yeah you're gonna only eat beans and toast this week because your money is mine i disavow that take

04:17:20.520 isn't that what they want the men yeah they do that are being finned on they literally wanted to be

04:17:25.240 self-destructive yeah but at what point like is there some onus on the the dominator or the dom woman i

04:17:33.800 don't know what the term i mean it's their money they're consenting to it so yeah but yeah but at

04:17:37.640 what time are you taking advantage of somebody who may very well be like mentally ill or something i

04:17:43.480 don't know yeah it's like if somebody like i think people should have the right to basically take drugs

04:17:48.280 in general but if you know somebody's about to like overdose or like fuck up their life permanently

04:17:53.560 because of it i think you have a moral responsibility to be like no like is that is it is it a kink for like a

04:17:59.320 guy wants to i to me it's hard for me to wrap my head around it but they want it it would turn them

04:18:06.120 on to bankrupt themselves that seems or maybe just engage in the fantasy if i were a fin dom i would be

04:18:12.600 skeptical that they had really been bankrupted and that they weren't playing it up just because of

04:18:16.360 the fantasy in the moment you know like i don't know what i thought it was yeah until like people

04:18:23.000 actually start i'd need to see like bank accounts and router numbers to actually verify that they're

04:18:27.000 really really drained because i don't even think the most diehard like guy who wants to be fin domed

04:18:31.880 would actually let it get to that point but i could be wrong yeah you never know though word wait so i'm

04:18:36.920 curious like um have you ever bankrupted a dude um well i've definitely like taken like their last euros

04:18:43.240 and stuff but as they say i don't know if it's very true but oh it's like is it a role play it kind of

04:18:48.840 is like you're kind of like being like i don't know it's a lot of chatting you kind of have to like

04:18:53.160 convince them to send you all their money and okay i don't know it's i'm curious it's a lot of like

04:18:58.440 technical what's the moat from any one given guy what's the most total that a guy's given you total

04:19:05.800 like a simp or i guess like i've had like some any any guy who's given you money what's the most

04:19:11.400 total amount of money that a guy's given you honestly not too much uh maybe just like couple

04:19:16.040 thousand or something couple thousand anybody else here you had a sugar daddy what was your situation

04:19:21.080 with him uh yeah i had one in the past but i also again still have one now the most that they've

04:19:26.920 given me was like wait that kind of reminds me of something hold on wait i used to do drugs i still

04:19:33.560 do but i used to too okay sorry go ahead okay mitch edberg okay rest in peace did i say that wrong

04:19:41.000 did i say no you're good you're good i sound grammatically incorrect okay no it's perfect um um

04:19:46.280 no yeah the most i've gotten is like yeah like three thousand total total a single oh one payment

04:19:53.480 oh so i'm i'm asking like total like a guy sent you 10 payments and it totaled to what that's so

04:20:02.680 when you said three thousand earlier you were saying the biggest individual payment that you've

04:20:07.560 received from one guy yeah it's three thousand why is that a couple thousand so but around so what

04:20:12.600 what okay if you had to add up like he sent you three thousand here a thousand here five thousand

04:20:16.440 here what's the most that a guy has sent you in in total gifts too like just cash just money or like

04:20:25.640 sure on like okay yeah sure i don't know it's a difficult one to estimate honestly more than ten

04:20:31.240 thousand probably not more than ten thousand in total i mean i have got flown out places but i don't

04:20:35.960 think that would cost that much no i'm saying okay if if one single guy let's say on seven seven

04:20:42.440 separate occasions he sent two thousand here two thousand here three thousand here a thousand

04:20:46.600 here if you added all those up i'm sure i've had fans that yeah they've spent a couple thousand like

04:20:51.080 just nothing over 10k though not that i think of now what about you you think you've gone over 10k um

04:20:56.600 just money yeah just money no but i think with gifts too yeah i've gotten bags i've gone flown molly

04:21:03.320 what about you i've definitely received well over 10k from from one guy uh multiple people multiple

04:21:09.240 people over okay what about anything any guys over 100k total anyone into you for over a hundred

04:21:17.160 thousand dollars i don't know maybe this wolfgang puck guy maybe eventually he will be

04:21:24.520 um he's actually i think he spent like maybe like i think he spent like i can check on my only fans but

04:21:31.560 he spent like over 30 on only fans 30 30 over like i think it might be like i don't know i would have

04:21:37.720 to check but yeah he's he's literally like my favorite i love him so much that oh that's him

04:21:42.280 in the chat yes no that's him he's the best oh okay are you relieved to know it's not part of your

04:21:47.080 community okay i guess i mean um and did you say you you had a sugar daddy right sophia in the past or

04:21:56.520 never no never but i mean you have do you have okay so let's yeah sure let's talk about only fans

04:22:01.960 so i'm sure you have whales do you have any whales on your only fans oh yes i do you got a couple

04:22:06.840 whales a couple a couple whales what's the most a whale has spent on your of that's so hard to wait

04:22:14.040 a little closer to the mic if you can that's really hard to put together i don't know how to estimate

04:22:18.040 that you could say over 10k over 50k over 100 anyone over 100k no maybe over 10k though

04:22:25.640 anything anything over 50k over 20k probably over 20k okay what about you from your of any whales

04:22:35.320 over 10k over 10k i don't know okay i don't know do those whales make up the bulk of your earnings

04:22:43.720 or is it like smaller donations and those just kind of like actually pay for like a small one yeah

04:22:49.320 for me it's mainly like the subscribers make a big chunk just like the monthly subscriptions and then

04:22:53.800 it's whales like him who i literally spend like all day chatting with and like just you don't have

04:22:59.240 wait you don't have to do nude content on no like you could do like cooking right yeah you can do

04:23:03.880 whatever you want wait you could do do you think do you think madison if she did like wholesome cooking

04:23:07.960 content it was like totally not sexual with like yeah do you think madison would make bank yes

04:23:16.760 what do you know what they advert they put in their adverts for what you can use your only fans for

04:23:20.680 it was videos of people like kayaking and like surfing and stuff like that and they were like

04:23:25.480 have people support like your ambitions there was no mention of like any adult content right no yeah

04:23:32.840 it didn't i want to make one for cosplay but then i get nervous that there's gonna be too many people

04:23:37.880 like being weird and like you know yeah pixie can i have you turn tilt down your mic a little bit well

04:23:43.960 i mean yeah they'll they will is your concern the perception um not just the perception but like the

04:23:50.520 entitlement i guess like i don't want to be if i do only fans for cosplay i want it to be my cosplay

04:23:56.280 you know i don't want to have like a million pms being like why aren't you showing me your nudes

04:24:01.640 you know i think it would actually they would be like really nice and they would be really like tip

04:24:05.640 heavy and be like you could see more of this if you take off more you know and then sooner or later

04:24:10.840 you're doing gang bangs what happens yeah the slippery slope you could do lewd content

04:24:16.760 yeah you really can like there's a lot of the okay you can do basically safer work content and

04:24:22.760 make a lot you should talk to you've talked to farah yeah talk to farah yeah wait what is far

04:24:31.160 she doesn't have any like new content or whatever but i don't think madison wouldn't even want to do

04:24:37.160 like any like that i don't think she would do madison's not i'd rather just like even just to

04:24:42.440 say oh i have an only fans most people are going to assume yeah it's adult content all right we got

04:24:47.160 modest to comma i think he's did i did i hit comma sorry brixton i'll stop no you don't have to stop my

04:24:55.880 my my dear friend um just in for bro you can still roast i think you should still roast i just think we

04:25:03.000 should avoid and i don't know if you're even that guilty of it i i this isn't directed what i was

04:25:08.040 saying before isn't necessarily directed at one person there are a couple like uh people that will

04:25:13.480 say again and i i'm i'm super appreciative of all people that are patrons of the show

04:25:20.520 but in furtherance of protecting the show i i am sort of making an overture because so many other

04:25:27.000 uh people have been demonetized i do think it would be the right move to try to be super careful

04:25:37.880 because people are getting can't demonetized and stuff that i should take actions to mitigate that

04:25:44.760 risk so um but he says i guess i guess you'll see me again when you never inevitably get forced to rumble

04:25:51.160 or maybe you'll smarten up and go before you get forced best of luck to the show in 2024 did i just

04:25:55.800 alienate monistakama yeah he's like tell you what monistakama i'll allow maybe just like he can be

04:26:04.040 the exception look i'm look the tts comes in instantly so i'm this is more i'm this is a request

04:26:11.320 like if you guys are still gonna like you know right now we're not really we're not we've never

04:26:16.360 really moderated the tts you know honestly the ones sent to charlie were more spicy than what he

04:26:22.040 scented yeah well i think you guys planted yeah i feel like some of you were like yeah like we're

04:26:27.800 gonna you guys planted some some of those fucking i thought that ex-wife one was so funny

04:26:34.360 i forgot what that one was but uh okay okay okay uh we got pre-show notes here we have uh

04:26:40.040 actually i'm gonna come back to tina we have some tweets we got to respond to i thought i was

04:26:46.120 gonna get out of this we got some tweets so we'll start from the beginning and then we'll just go

04:26:49.320 through all the tweets i got a lot of tweets i got some i got some stuff i go we got okay go ahead

04:26:53.720 nick i'm so nervous i'm so scared just start with pixies or whatever sorry i'm so scared i feel like

04:27:02.200 people think my twitter is a lot oh it's not my twitter it's not my twitter or is it yeah that's

04:27:06.920 that side nick yeah if i see one more man call an obviously beautiful woman mid or ugly i will

04:27:12.200 personally orchestrate to attack to get rid of this god forsaken website uh but hold on pixie

04:27:18.760 hold on next oh that's making fun of those tweets this this girl calls this guy mid scroll down nick so

04:27:27.160 we can see the fucking walk myron up up no he's not new he's got a six pack he's got a six pack scroll

04:27:33.000 up scroll up that's not a six pack pixie pixie reads every lady deserves a mid man to go to the beach

04:27:39.480 with her and spend time with her you're calling this guy mid pixie i'm making fun of the other

04:27:44.440 tweets there was a tweet of a girl cooking and people were like everybody deserves a beautiful

04:27:49.320 mid um to cook for them and that girl is drop dead gorgeous so i was like okay bet and then that's what

04:27:56.040 i tweeted i'm yelling sorry we're gonna bring up the pokey tweet the pokey tweet no the pokey tweet was

04:28:01.880 spicier oh i saw i saw it but i didn't get it but she was basically it was two photos of pokey main

04:28:09.320 someone was like pokey fell off and it was a photo of her from like a few years earlier to now and i

04:28:13.960 thought pokey looked the same but they were yeah i thought she looked i mean her hair color was

04:28:17.640 different but she looked basically the same and and then yeah you said it was like p word that confused

04:28:23.000 me but i didn't want to really bring that up but i i did see that tweet and that i don't know where

04:28:27.800 you're going with that she said no i will not explain so yeah you said no you won't explain so let's

04:28:32.360 have her not explain next nobody's telling them their feelings and experiences are all privileged and toxic

04:28:39.160 this is a red pill straw man people make to discount feminism well hold on

04:28:45.480 nick can you search wikipedia for toxic masculinity and male privilege because these are terms that are

04:28:52.600 essentially coined by feminists and male privilege is like a pretty solid tenant of like feminism so

04:28:58.760 there's a couple of things to dissect here so toxic masculinity no one's saying that oh every guy is

04:29:05.320 toxic or masculinity is inherently toxic the concept of toxic masculinity is that it can be toxic so for

04:29:12.440 example femininity be toxic yeah it can but so why don't we just say because because some people

04:29:19.640 men might get confused and take it to mean that masculinity is toxic wouldn't it be much more

04:29:26.360 productive to just remove the masculinity from it and just say there are toxic individuals the problem

04:29:33.000 is that it's certain tenants of masculinity that when taken to the extreme become toxic so you could

04:29:39.640 say toxic individuality but the problem is that men are doing these things in the name of manly hood

04:29:45.320 that end up being toxic women do that but do you agree that some femininity do you agree that there's a

04:29:51.560 large amount of men who might view the word toxic masculinity as if it means that all masculinity

04:30:00.920 is toxic or that masculinity is toxic i agree that is definitely an optics and perception challenge and

04:30:07.400 the word we should probably find better words to describe this so why not just toxic individuals

04:30:11.960 because again it comes from taking the tenants of masculinity to an extreme so for example there are

04:30:18.200 some men who are like oh you know men should not cry like at all like if you cry you're weak like

04:30:24.680 you're a pussy like you can't you can't do that um if you do that you're less of a man or guys that

04:30:30.200 don't like a finger in their book that's toxic no i don't get that what disavow disavow i don't think

04:30:37.960 that that's toxic masculinity that's my definition anyway you're so you're just to be clear your definition

04:30:43.880 of toxic masculinity is they don't want to get pegged is that yes okay good i'm glad that

04:30:49.720 that's definitely toxic if a guy's not open to butt stuff that's toxic masculine okay all right um

04:30:55.560 disagree with that one but uh well i mean i i think there is something to be said for stoicism

04:31:03.960 and i don't think men should i i think it's uh here let me put it from the uh like a context of

04:31:13.160 dating i would argue that if you were early on fairly early on into a

04:31:19.480 courtship process with a woman and you and you cried i would say that a lot of women would not

04:31:25.880 be very attracted to that yeah i think um it's oh sorry go ahead yeah i think um i think there's

04:31:32.680 something to be said about like not being too extreme in general but i think if a woman is like

04:31:38.360 turned off because the guy cried in front of them i think that's horrible on the woman i think she's

04:31:43.800 a bed flat i love when men cry i think it's so attractive me too i think it's because it's like

04:31:49.240 it's like you have feelings you're a human like vulnerable men i wouldn't say i love it but it's a

04:31:54.440 normal emotion what's that like like you're human what's wrong with crying it's not why is that

04:32:00.360 cat here's why it's not cat okay spongebob we all saw spongebob okay pearl's 16th birthday who did

04:32:07.800 she have a crush on the boy band boys who cry okay women like boys who cry why do you think that's

04:32:15.560 cat and you see it in what is it dramas too or like media that's like for women like when the guy is

04:32:21.720 being vulnerable with you and like crying like yeah that's so attractive because girls i love

04:32:26.600 when a man is angry okay i think in general people aren't attracted to extremes generally speaking so

04:32:41.480 you know a woman might like it when a guy cries but if he's having like a total like temper tantrum

04:32:46.040 like yeah if it's like all the time or if he's just that's too extreme but i i think there is

04:32:52.200 like a level where it is like attractive i feel like if women get the ick over a guy crying it's not

04:32:56.680 necessarily because he's crying it's because maybe he's crying over something stupid yeah

04:32:59.880 and if it's the if the reason is stupid then that gives you the women

04:33:04.600 i agree about really stupid things same does that almost counter the point like you're saying he's

04:33:09.320 crying over something stupid i mean what what if it's not stupid to him yeah i think that's

04:33:14.200 yeah i think that's a red flag on the woman build an emotional connection in a relationship and i

04:33:18.760 personally i think if a man is too scared to cry in front of a woman that he's pursuing then he's

04:33:23.720 not emotionally intelligent enough to be in a relationship or open yes not emotionally open

04:33:28.680 i would see it as like a man being emotionally stunted if he didn't cry in the face of like a

04:33:33.160 death close to him like i think that's valid but like i i'm thinking of some other scenario

04:33:39.880 where a guy would cry i i mean what is not like a breakup or something like

04:33:44.200 i'm trying to think i'm trying to think of a scenario where like

04:33:53.320 there's nothing coming to me but like here's here's another example with this vulnerability

04:33:57.960 thing let's say you witnessed your boyfriend uh get beat up it was a one-on-one it wasn't like he

04:34:05.400 got jumped but like somehow he got involved in the fight and it was it was mutual combat so it

04:34:10.840 wasn't like he got sucker punched but like somehow he gets engaged in the fight um and he got fucked up

04:34:20.680 and you witness it

04:34:25.240 you're gonna be a little turned i think you're gonna lose attraction

04:34:28.040 my first instinct is i want to take care of my wounded soldier yeah sorry for sounding tradcon

04:34:33.640 but like yeah like oh my god sofia sofia yes you're you see your guy get absolutely

04:34:39.880 fucking scorched in a fight and you see him in the fencing position i don't want to make fun of

04:34:46.280 this because people actually get fucking brain damage from from the violent alter but do you guys

04:34:50.920 know what the fencing position is yeah you ever seen someone get in a fight they get knocked out

04:34:56.360 they're based that's like significant uh brain damage they probably have a tbi i'm pretty sure

04:35:02.280 if you saw your boyfriend get knocked out and he's in the fencing position you're going to lose

04:35:08.760 attraction for i disagree no my mom did he start the fight you might be concerned i think you'll be

04:35:14.120 concerned for him i think a woman would be turned off if he lost a fight that he started yeah if he lost

04:35:19.240 the fight that he started then fine if he didn't start the fight and it was basically not a sucker punch but

04:35:24.200 like okay okay question let's say uh you're out of the bar club and some other drunk dude steps to

04:35:31.560 you and i don't know the guy i'm trying to think he says something nasty to you or something i started

04:35:38.840 the fight would you want your boyfriend to intervene on your behalf no because i feel like they're

04:35:42.760 escalating it and that makes it more unsafe what if he what okay that's a devil toxic toxic masculinity

04:35:48.360 right there is if a guy insisted on escalating that bar fight right there instead of walking

04:35:52.840 away to you because you're making it harder and less safe for us to get out of the situation all

04:35:58.440 in the name of preserving your like a male well i'm not i'm not advocating i'm not advocating that the

04:36:03.640 the response to another man insulting your girlfriend is necessarily to start a fight but

04:36:10.040 that was perhaps the lowest level thing i could think of there's perhaps other scenarios where it could

04:36:14.760 be warranted for the man to uh perhaps initiate a fight or he might feel so compelled due to the

04:36:21.960 disrespect uh that perhaps the man touched you in some way inappropriately sure yeah but perhaps

04:36:27.800 that might be more warranted it's not really up to my boyfriend if i feel disrespected or not

04:36:32.600 i feel like it's valid it's like a protective instinct like the guy might have a protective

04:36:36.520 instinct i mean that's fine he gets scorched up in the fight or something like if you were with

04:36:41.960 like a girlfriend at the club and like a guy like touched your girlfriend wouldn't you like

04:36:45.560 what's the video is it yeah it's just a protective

04:36:51.880 yes i know what you're talking about yeah the thing is though i feel like i try to be like

04:36:59.800 intellectually honest about these things i saw this clip and i i didn't see the full video and i feel

04:37:05.240 like they there could have been other criteria for how they rated these men

04:37:08.520 how long is the video it's a minute long in this version are we we actually i'm can wait are we

04:37:18.280 nick can you pull up the were we getting reverb on this video tab can you pull up the chat were we

04:37:23.080 getting reverb on that yo chat one in the chat if we were getting reverb when we pulled up that little

04:37:27.960 video there um let me know were we getting reverb nope looks good okay uh i don't know if we watch the

04:37:39.720 video do we watch the video basically some guy started crying on one of these jubilee things and

04:37:46.600 then they i think it it would have already been done fine god damn it okay uh go ahead

04:37:53.800 should i do something deeper like should we go deep when's the last time you cried

04:37:58.840 yeah he's trying to cry now wait pause it nick pause it pause it can you make it a little

04:38:04.680 bigger like control zoom in do we have to rate them before and after yeah try it nope okay okay

04:38:11.080 actually that would be a good game sorry go back five seconds we'll just watch it like this

04:38:14.920 you're trying to cry now no i love my best friend this year so it's still been a hard thing for me

04:38:20.840 i'm so sorry you made me think about it

04:38:28.840 that makes me like him that makes me want to give him a hug

04:38:31.800 i want to ring he's so cute in my opinion like that literally makes me want to give him a hug

04:38:37.720 and then it's just like mildly uncomfortable which is nothing against him

04:38:54.920 and then the bottom it's not like i dislike anyone i just i'm very disinterested in a lot of people and

04:39:01.240 so i think it's just like she's like you guys are cool yeah but is that rating them just off of the

04:39:06.760 fact that he just cried did they all cry or wait keep going next keep going thank you that's

04:39:12.760 right yeah pause it here damn so the physical appearance ranking they've put him initially at

04:39:23.960 most and then the final ranking five and i mean it's hard to it's so fucking small um i actually

04:39:30.760 think facially speaking in terms of his appearance i think he's the most physically attractive i don't

04:39:36.200 think that was the initial ranking but again this is a edited clip so i and i didn't watch the full

04:39:42.040 thing but that one women woman did say she was uncomfortable despite him being vulnerable in that

04:39:49.560 situation so it appears to me that um it's actually i don't think it's even necessarily evidence of

04:39:54.760 something that men are pushing on other men the patriarchy i actually think uh women tend to um

04:40:03.240 what's the term for it uphold this is something that women uphold when men are vulnerable that has

04:40:10.040 negative ramifications how do you break that cycle i don't know maybe it's something innate in in

04:40:17.560 women nature it could maybe it's female nature i mean you're you're not attracted to male weakness

04:40:24.360 or displays aren't weak or to displays of male weakness i am i disagree i don't think emotions

04:40:30.120 are weakness i think there's actually this is perhaps on an intellectual level but no but also

04:40:35.160 like there's it takes a certain strength to be willing to be vulnerable in a way right to not be so

04:40:40.600 upholded by like these constrictions that society has put on us and be like no like i am human i have

04:40:45.960 feelings i am real so i think there is a strength there yeah i like guys that are open with their

04:40:51.080 emotions like yeah just shows that they're a human being at the end of the day yeah i feel like you're

04:40:55.800 actually i feel like you're actually stronger if you're able to show your emotions and not have to

04:41:01.240 worry about other people's opinion oh if i cry right now are people going to look at me differently

04:41:05.880 or what am i going to find me less attractive i feel like men that are able to just

04:41:10.120 cry when they feel like they have to or they feel like they need to are very strong because they're

04:41:16.040 not worried about other people's opinion here let me ask you guys a question um and this is related i

04:41:21.240 guess to vulnerability um do you guys all like a confident men yes yes is confident one of i i often

04:41:32.600 hear confidence being cited as one of the top or close to the top things that women find attractive in a

04:41:40.680 okay so let me ask if would you prefer a guy approaching you and he wasn't being creepy or

04:41:48.200 anything but he was perhaps he stepped a bit nervous his eye contact wasn't great maybe his

04:41:53.320 voice was a little shaky again he was being polite not creepy but he stepped to you he stepped to you his

04:41:59.720 eye contact wasn't good his voice was shaky he wasn't didn't come across super sure of himself again

04:42:06.440 not weird or anything just how i described it would you prefer that or a guy who just steps to you

04:42:13.720 really confidently which do you prefer the guy who approaches you confidently or the guy who's a bit

04:42:19.240 nervous oh honestly well actually i want to start here go ahead i feel like that's gonna be personal

04:42:25.240 preference like what's yours like shy guys i like i like shy nerdy guys that's what i i like

04:42:31.400 i like like confident okay what about you but i like confident men too like i don't know how to

04:42:36.440 i'm sorry i didn't mean to cut you off but you're fine yeah it's i don't know how to explain that

04:42:41.400 i personally actually like the the guy who would be maybe more nervous and the reason being is because

04:42:47.480 that confidence territory can get into arrogance very very quickly and that cockiness is especially

04:42:52.440 unattractive to me okay i should have specified in the same way that i specified that the guy who's

04:42:58.040 nervous he's not being creepy but he's just a bit nervous or whatever the confident guy is not

04:43:03.400 being arrogant either he's confident in a way that you like a guy to be confident well then yeah you're

04:43:09.320 building in the answer then obviously everybody wants the confident person who's not too arrogant

04:43:13.880 but i'm not going to be turned off by the person who might be a little bit shy or apprehensive about

04:43:19.240 approaching me because that demonstrates to me that they're not entitled or they're not going to

04:43:23.640 assume that just because i asked obviously she's going to say yes because i would if i even felt

04:43:27.480 that for a second that would be very unattractive to me okay what about you she just said it

04:43:31.560 perfectly oh my god she really did okay all right what about you i like both a lot because i like

04:43:37.400 like if they're nerdy and like they're like um or even not nerdy if they're just like shy a little

04:43:41.640 bit it's like oh you're getting flustered because of me like i definitely don't want like to like i

04:43:47.640 do agree with her but it's also just like i i do like men that are like i mean yeah i wouldn't be

04:43:54.040 opposed to like the person that was shy but what was my point i feel like the the thing that wins

04:43:59.480 women over when a guy is being confident is not necessarily the confidence in and of itself like

04:44:03.880 if you already have natural chemistry there and then he asks you out that's something that you wanted

04:44:07.960 and it's basically guaranteed that he was going to say yes like if you if you already found yourself

04:44:12.200 attracted to a guy and he was shy when he approached you i don't think that woman is all of a sudden being

04:44:16.840 like well i was really attracted to him but then the way he asked me turned me off i think i actually

04:44:20.280 disagree because this this almost counters our conversation earlier of well his looks whatever

04:44:25.800 that's one thing but he can talk his way into well my but you can also talk your way out though

04:44:33.000 yes you can but like one of the ways that the guy can appear despite his physical appearance

04:44:38.520 i would argue like if a guy's really confident that could be a a way to appear more attractive to a

04:44:44.360 woman yeah we're talking about something you're passionate about but even if you're like

04:44:47.880 like world of warcraft yeah no honestly like yes i think what matters to me most is authenticity

04:44:54.680 so if you're like you know naturally confident that's just who you are that will appeal to me

04:44:59.320 and if you're naturally here let's move on what about you um yeah you prefer confidence or you

04:45:03.960 i prefer confidence honestly um i think it's very attractive when guys are like confident and

04:45:10.040 they like okay oh no go ahead no it's okay that was it okay um i feel like i make sure both i

04:45:17.480 i think naturally though i would prefer a confident guy but then it's also like oh do you do this to

04:45:21.880 every girl like if they're so confident easy to walk up to me with all like the different full

04:45:26.600 chest you know like they're probably doing that to every other girl as well so for me personally i

04:45:31.000 think uh when a man is insecure nervous shy okay but when a man is insecure especially me because of

04:45:37.720 what i do for work that can get pretty dangerous honestly so i need a confident man i need a man who

04:45:42.920 um that was pretty much my point yeah no i need a man who knows that he's not going to be intimidated

04:45:49.560 by me and my lifestyle yeah i think they say one thing do they mean another i don't know um okay i'll

04:45:58.920 take i'll do one more thing on this and i'll move on but would you prefer a guy to just go for the first

04:46:05.960 kiss assuming you want him to kiss you right would you prefer the guy to just go for the first kiss

04:46:11.320 or versus if you were to verbalize it and you were to say something like can i kiss you oh i hate

04:46:19.800 that i love that i think it's cringy cringy what about you what do you prefer i like it but depends

04:46:27.400 on if i want them or not uh it's honestly both for me because like i like when someone asks me just like

04:46:34.840 if it's unclear but if we like obviously like have a connection or say it's like my boyfriend i want it

04:46:39.480 like forcibly i same thing i agree with her completely so you prefer what i prefer him making

04:46:46.600 the move unless but what if he's a bit shy and nervous and he wants to ask for permission that's

04:46:54.200 fine i feel like my my action that's you would be you would prefer my actions would kind of if he was

04:46:59.880 confident and not in a vulnerable state no i mean you had a very visceral reaction to that you said

04:47:08.760 oh not at all i would very much dislike that i mean it can be quite sweet asking for consent you

04:47:13.000 know you never want to just go and kiss someone without knowing the vibes but if you clearly know

04:47:16.920 that like you're like you're getting a connection going and you're like oh kiss is gonna happen

04:47:21.560 if he asks them to kiss it just throws off the mood like there's a way you can do it right like

04:47:27.080 the vibe and just go for it like or make it awkward okay all right and then i'm just like oh like

04:47:32.360 have you ever had a woman that you learned was turned off because a guy asked a question like that

04:47:37.160 because i haven't we've i mean we've we've asked this question a couple times on the show and uh it's

04:47:42.760 it's sometimes mixed responses but a lot of women will have a visceral sort of reaction to like

04:47:48.040 oh don't ask me for like just kiss me and they'll say that do you think it's safe for men to be

04:47:53.640 doing that no to what to kiss a woman that they feel is it's like the natural time for that to happen

04:48:01.720 well i'm what are you trying to say safe for men because you were saying earlier that like a

04:48:07.240 dangerous dangerous thing is like if men are falsely accused of something right it's easy for body

04:48:12.280 language behaviors to be misinterpreted sometimes yeah so would you ever say it's like safe or recommend

04:48:17.160 to men that like if you feel the moment's right yeah go for it or would you say that that's not

04:48:21.560 maybe wise to do well i mean i think there's a certain degree of social calibration like you can

04:48:27.160 if if you're socially attuned i think you can have a fairly accurate sense of this if the person sitting

04:48:33.320 across from you is you know interested um i've been on the receiving end of somebody who leaned in

04:48:39.000 to kiss me and i leaned straight back but do you think they did not make that calculation correct sure

04:48:44.200 and i think but i do think we ought to give men some leeway to obviously if if you've leaned back

04:48:50.440 that's the end of it 100 but uh i mean isn't it just sort of this the normal to me it occurs to me

04:48:58.680 that that's sort of the social the normal uh a normal occurrence for a guy to make a move and if the

04:49:04.680 girl no and then it can end there i guess um do you think it would be wrong for a guy to if he if you

04:49:12.600 guys are in a maybe he thinks that you guys are on a romantic date perhaps perhaps you're not ready

04:49:17.480 for a first kiss do you think it would be wrong for him to lean in for the kiss no because i mean

04:49:22.280 to me the mistake would not be doing it i think the mistake would not be responding to the lack of

04:49:28.040 like reciprocation or enthusiasm properly like you're saying so and most i agree with you most

04:49:33.800 consent is negotiated oh yeah if the girl leans back like through body language she's not interested of

04:49:38.280 course um but uh i mean i i it's it's hard because in the social climate i it actually might be the

04:49:46.520 move to to have men like you know actually have that sort of just verbalize do you think it's

04:49:52.760 ever appropriate for a woman to physically distance herself from a man when he does that at an inappropriate

04:49:57.080 time sorry what's the question like in good faith a guy leans in because he believes the right moment

04:50:02.440 for a first kiss has come not knowing completely oblivious to the fact that the woman is not on the same

04:50:07.960 page and she feels unsafe and like threatened by him doing that because all of a sudden it feels

04:50:12.840 like this kind of like forcible physical encounter do you think it's it's reasonable for a woman to

04:50:16.280 physically resist that just on instinct effectively is it right there's a reason if she doesn't want to

04:50:22.680 kiss them then absolutely like almost like slap the guy oh well i think if a guy is he's not being

04:50:30.520 aggressive with it but he does a lean in i don't think a slap is warranted i think like oh i think just

04:50:36.280 maybe not today uh i mean i can't like i'll just say this if we if i've misread signals between us

04:50:42.600 and we were alone in a room and i tried to kiss you and you weren't ready for that if you physically

04:50:46.520 pushed me or tried to get away from me i wouldn't think that it was a it was inappropriate on your

04:50:50.520 part to do that i think i would understand well certainly like if if the person's going in for a

04:50:56.280 kiss i think probably actually most people's almost instinct if they don't want to kiss would be to do a

04:51:01.560 lean back i think you said a slap i don't know if that's appropriate but uh i mean i think the

04:51:07.320 most people's instinct i would assume most people's instinct if they don't want to be kissed is

04:51:12.600 perhaps like a handout and maybe a lean a lean back i that i hope i'm not i'm not referencing

04:51:19.000 something too niche i feel like we've all seen like a romantic comedy where the guy like goes in for

04:51:23.080 it and the woman's like what the are you doing and like basically slaps him it happens to like when

04:51:27.320 the guy thinks he's out of the friend zone stuff like that forceful like extremely forceful but

04:51:32.120 this feels like a like a like a black and white movie or something with the really exact i don't

04:51:37.400 know anyways how dare you sir yeah exactly um okay here let's uh oh let's get back to the tweets okay

04:51:42.760 we gotta get back to the tweets here all right the pokey tweet oh we can we can pull it up really

04:51:49.480 quick but i do want to move on what is masculinity oh look at that there's a dedicated pixie there's a

04:51:55.080 dedicated wikipedia article about toxic masculinity what about male privilege do we have that there's

04:52:01.560 not a is there not an article on male privilege oh look it up please huh yeah male privilege

04:52:11.960 conspiracy oh look at that look at that there's a wikipedia article on the pic go back to pixie's

04:52:16.920 tweet on this well there's wikipedia articles it's mainstream feminism toxic masculinity yeah but

04:52:27.160 nobody male privilege nobody's saying all your emotions or at least feminists in general are not

04:52:32.440 saying all your emotions are toxic masculinity and male privilege you can believe in the concept of

04:52:38.600 male privilege and toxic masculinity that doesn't mean that's all of men's emotions

04:52:42.840 cool yeah cool next tweet is it just roasting pixie how is it oh we have molly here

04:52:55.000 oh god okay i love it when i watch my scenes i don't know why i pulled this one up

04:52:59.320 uh i love it when i watch my scenes with oh my god oh

04:53:02.760 shit did someone just get hit i think some okay just continue with the stream that did not sound

04:53:08.440 good i love it when i watch my scenes with other men in the don okay joins me so just to be clear

04:53:15.480 you will watch your boyfriend right yeah you and your boyfriend will watch you having sex with other

04:53:24.760 men yeah he enjoys it yeah actually he'll like tell me or like i mean there's so many examples of it but

04:53:31.800 like one time this browser scene like just came out and i was getting fucked by like my pigtails

04:53:36.920 really hard and i was like oh my god baby you have to see this it's so hot i want you to do this to

04:53:40.920 me and we watched it and like then we had to stop it get some help yeah um but look at the comments

04:53:50.840 though if you wait nick can you pull up the photo of molly if you know the photo you know the photo

04:53:55.320 everyone approves pull up pull the photo of molly here you know which one it is molly yeah i do i love

04:54:03.800 that um so you're there's you did you did the scene with this i have a scene with him as well

04:54:18.440 he's amazing he's the best yeah yeah but stop it oh so sorry i don't know why that um eskimo sisters

04:54:28.040 and there's that there's photos of you on your ins on your twitter and really thank you

04:54:37.560 yeah i couldn't have i couldn't i mean a your boyfriend's a stronger man than i i don't think

04:54:45.000 i'd be straight i don't think i don't think i would be comfortable

04:54:50.280 granted i think your boyfriend he also does adult content right yeah i don't know if i'd be

04:54:54.520 comfortable with like with my girlfriend watching with her a video of her having sex with another

04:55:02.440 man well that's why you're not i've been told that sometimes he watches my porn to get hard

04:55:06.520 you're not dating a girl like that yeah right fair point yeah i've been told that sometimes he

04:55:11.880 told me that sometimes he watches my porn to get hard like when when yeah i love that yeah

04:55:18.360 yo chat should we get we should get her boyfriend on the show yes because in the previous show you

04:55:25.160 said that and i think maybe we touched on this earlier that uh you don't like it though when

04:55:30.680 your boyfriend like would you ever watch your boyfriend fucking another girl i don't like watching

04:55:35.240 unless i'm involved as well so but you sleep with other men for your work he sleeps with other women

04:55:39.880 for his work but you hate that he does that yeah well i mean like we're working we're working

04:55:46.360 through it we're but why but it's it's a bit of a double standard because he's okay it sounds like

04:55:52.040 he's okay with you doing it yeah but like you get super jealous well she's not him so she has a

04:55:57.320 different exactly honestly i just went to the avn you did too but i was noticing like when he was

04:56:02.280 flirting with other girls it kind of turned me on though like and i hadn't felt that before because i was

04:56:06.360 like are you a cuck queen i think a little bit because it really i like knowing that other women

04:56:11.720 want to fuck him i'm the exact same i like to know that my man is well desired yeah wait nick can you

04:56:18.120 boost the audio the rocks the world is there sure yeah put it oh yeah i actually don't think what

04:56:22.440 you've described is that crazy because like for example most people if you meet someone new you're

04:56:27.880 sexting if you send them a video of your like prior sex tapes with other partners they typically find that

04:56:33.560 hot yeah i've actually i don't know i think at that point it's the watching together that's weird

04:56:38.920 wait yeah sorry aaron can you say that one more time just like how i said just how you said it

04:56:47.640 good movie okay um yeah i don't think that what she's describing is actually that crazy i think the

04:56:53.880 thing that makes it unique is that you're doing poor you're manufacturing porn deliberately but most

04:56:59.240 people when they start sexting with someone new that they're attracted to someone who could

04:57:02.840 potentially even be a new partner i think the guy would be happy to be on the receiving end of

04:57:07.640 former like sex tapes of their like soon-to-be girlfriend for a previous guys my quota wait the

04:57:13.960 the new upcoming boyfriend would be stoked on viewing i had that yes and you think most men would feel

04:57:22.840 feel that way most men would be stoked on seeing videos yes of their soon-to-be girlfriend having

04:57:31.080 sex with other men yeah maybe once you actually start to get into a relationship you won't like

04:57:37.080 you win the whatever okay i don't think i'm saying anything that crazy no i i agree with you actually

04:57:42.440 i see exactly what you're saying and i'm sure you can weigh on on this too but um i've sexed with

04:57:46.040 people that want they want bj videos and stuff like that or they want videos of you fucking other

04:57:50.200 people solo content okay you with another man literally the last person i was talking to

04:57:56.680 literally asked to see all of my videos on only fans and he was like turned on yeah they want to

04:58:00.360 insert themselves in the man's position i agree with that like we wouldn't have any subscribers if

04:58:05.480 guys didn't like to see us get fucked by other guys yeah i feel like that's the reason why they

04:58:09.240 asked for bg content is because they want to put themselves in that position wait of the girls here who

04:58:13.720 do of is it are you do you all do bg content boy girl content yes yes do you do bg content yes okay

04:58:23.480 yes okay all right i mean and i'm just talking about normal dudes not even guys hooking up with

04:58:28.840 like asking for the backlog of porn like asking like yeah do you have any videos of that or women

04:58:33.000 might just send that to them for fun as the official representative of the patriarchy

04:58:38.280 you just there's no way most men are going to be cool seeing their soon-to-be girlfriend

04:58:48.920 get fucked by another dude on camera well then we should have adonis on his podcast because he

04:58:53.320 could tell you all about it i'm not saying okay hold on though he's not an average guy i'm not saying

04:58:58.600 that there aren't men out there that are gonna be tolerate it or be okay with it or even be in favor

04:59:04.920 of it i'm saying the majority of men are not going to be cool with viewing their girl their

04:59:13.560 soon-to-be girlfriend or a girl they're interested in dating getting fucked by another dude i'm sorry

04:59:19.240 what i think i feel like on both of our ends it's projection because i have my like personal

04:59:23.880 anecdotes and you have yours and your personal experience but like we wouldn't know until we

04:59:27.480 asked a bunch of guys but i think guys find it hot in my experience like guys might not just make

04:59:32.120 no no no no no no no no no no most dudes are not cucks most dudes are not i don't think that

04:59:36.920 they see it as cuckold i think that they see it i think they see it as you being like really

04:59:42.600 slutty really slutty like very and especially especially if they like especially a video of

04:59:47.800 you sucking dick they just picture their day fantasy they're like oh my god this girl i just

04:59:51.880 met is like fulfilling my sexual fantasy no that it ain't sucking your dick that's sucking some other

04:59:56.280 dude's dick it was talking some other dude's dick it ain't your dick but they're thinking that's

05:00:00.680 what's going to happen to me soon yes exactly i think i think there's a case to be made that

05:00:04.600 once they get into the relationship it's not going to turn them on quite as much anymore

05:00:07.640 and they want to slot themselves in now it's for research purposes are you true i feel like you're

05:00:11.320 i'm not i'm being genuinely serious there's no way you believe this there's no way you believe

05:00:15.800 most men well how many men have you talked to about this conversation how can you say most men

05:00:20.040 don't most men do not want how do you know their girl to see videos how do you know that

05:00:25.720 spencer where are you at son no chance spencer spencer well now it feels like no one's going

05:00:31.400 to be honest well yeah no one's going to agree with that i think it would like push them away

05:00:35.640 yo be like sorry go ahead men don't want slots i'm just saying yo based let's

05:00:41.480 fucking go but they like that contrast they like the contrast of talking to the girl next door yes

05:00:46.520 and then learning you have plenty of videos and then you get let on and leave you

05:00:50.440 just got a message from him he said it's hot it has nothing to do with yeah okay you're but your

05:00:54.680 boyfriend's involved in porn he's dating a porn star because of me he wasn't involved in but

05:00:59.800 okay i'm here molly you have to understand i'm not saying that that doesn't exist we can talk about

05:01:05.400 like i'm not trying to say that there's not exceptions what i am saying though generally

05:01:10.760 speaking most men don't want to view their girlfriend getting fucked by somebody else the

05:01:18.920 allure of the forbidden because the forbidden the forbidden is that you're seeing a girl that

05:01:23.480 you find really hot like being vulnerable in slutty ways that she previously you couldn't have imagined

05:01:29.080 you see how far the termites have spread and how long and well they've died rest in peace christopher

05:01:34.200 hitchens you see how far the termites have spread and how long and well they've died

05:01:38.920 aaron i retract my no i'm kidding i retract my no i'm kidding um

05:01:46.040 i just broke your brain i think you're underestimating how like you know kinky some

05:01:50.680 guys can get even the average dude i'll tell you this much wait all of you guys agree yeah yeah that

05:01:55.640 a majority of men like i don't know about a majority i don't know about majority maybe like

05:02:00.280 yeah i might agree with you there's definitely a little percent there are some guys that are here

05:02:04.680 i'll agree with you that maybe the majority of men like might enjoy solo content like receiving it

05:02:11.560 from a girl if it's solo content that's still a mite huh that's still a mite you can't even say like oh

05:02:16.600 all men for sure would enjoy seeing solo content i think some if if some of them were like had a

05:02:23.160 certain view of the girl and thought that she was some men might view it as like oh she might

05:02:28.360 be uh promiscuous or they might make some assumptions whether true or not but um from my

05:02:34.760 position if a girl who i was romantically interested in and i wanted to i wanted to pursue her for

05:02:41.640 well first i mean i've perhaps a i fall on the perhaps extreme end of this i wouldn't even want to

05:02:46.840 have casual sex with a woman who sent me a photo of her video of her getting fucked by somebody else

05:02:52.280 even a one night stand i'd lose total interest um but if it was a girl certainly if it was a girl

05:02:57.400 that i was pursuing for a long-term relationship and she sent me a video of her getting fucked by

05:03:03.160 another guy i'm like why are you fucking breaking my heart here you're obviously not sending it

05:03:08.680 unsolicited timing here matters because the type of woman who would like like oh want to see me get

05:03:14.440 screwed by my ex-boyfriend see that's like sexually aggressive that's a whole different dynamic i'm

05:03:18.760 talking about sensual it's not like you're just sending it to this random guy yeah if you just send it

05:03:23.160 i think that's way too far i was like yeah i think you should send it to who like a random guy

05:03:27.640 to a random no no to a guy that you swiped right on or like a guy that you're sexting even i think

05:03:31.960 it is presumptuous to assume they'd want to see it but nine out of ten times i think they do want

05:03:36.440 to see it or sometimes they'll ask at no point at no point in the courtship i don't care if it's our

05:03:43.000 first message i don't care if we've been on a couple dates okay well you're not every man do you think

05:03:47.640 the average woman i am in the majority here we don't want to see you getting

05:03:52.360 fucked by another dude i think i'm sorry ladies but not i'm sorry no i mean personally just think

05:03:58.040 about it i think if i was a dude and i was horny and sexting a girl and we were sexting and she

05:04:03.080 sends me a turn off turn off like riding a dick and she's looking really sexy i would literally like

05:04:09.240 that stuff no but i would be turned on i'd be like oh damn that's what she wants to do to me like

05:04:13.480 that's what she's i don't think everyone has their own i just want to say i sent the asteroid

05:04:18.840 i'm sending a fucking missile now nick said he would cry jesus christ this is a nuke i didn't think

05:04:25.080 this thing was so hot has been fucking sent you guys are oh my god well what how many men have you

05:04:32.200 talked to that you could get this answer to the sky is blue that's all i look up to the sky the sky is

05:04:38.440 blue i just know this i know we don't need to do we don't need to do a study we don't need to do

05:04:46.360 a study to know that i think girls would know more than a man would i don't think you're out

05:04:51.640 here sexting a man and hearing about all their fantasies so it's kind of weird to say that you

05:04:55.640 could talk for every man when that's not even true you're talking for yourself it's within the realm

05:04:59.960 of cuckoldry and yes most men but yes it's within the realm of being a cuck it's within the realm

05:05:06.040 of being a cuck most men are not cucks do you think most men only watch solo porn that's different

05:05:11.800 though it's that's totally different how is that yes getting off on a woman fucking another guy but

05:05:16.120 you're getting off on a woman another guy yes but you don't have that's totally that's totally a bad

05:05:22.600 faith argument because you know like a guy can enjoy watching porn it doesn't mean he wants his

05:05:28.200 girlfriend to go and get fucked by other men and make videos of it son okay i don't think i don't

05:05:34.280 think they want you to know i'm doing a poll i'm doing happy i never do youtube polls yeah i never

05:05:38.680 do youtube polls i know you i know you guys are going to say well yeah now everyone's going to

05:05:42.360 agree with you do your poll i want to i want to see just okay what's what's the question for the poll

05:05:50.200 what uh would you would you want to do with your uh girlfriend is it girlfriend or i don't know

05:05:57.400 would you get turned on from yeah would you want someone you're talking to would you be like

05:06:03.160 would you get turned on from would you be cool with your girlfriend sending you a video of her

05:06:10.120 fucking another dude yeah not girlfriend i think that's the that was the thing

05:06:14.600 you're sexting just sexting maybe oh you're sexting yeah like you can put a woman you're

05:06:21.160 getting to know it's not that deep yet a woman you're getting to know instead of girlfriend

05:06:24.680 yeah it's not like she's gonna just send it to you to be like oh look at this it's right

05:06:28.120 the the we were in sexting like that's what we were talking about in sexting would it turn them on

05:06:32.760 not like oh would you like it like i don't see no one's gonna like it but you're sexting and you're

05:06:37.080 horny yeah like a hot girl taking dick you're gonna like it

05:06:40.200 what is what does it do for the woman what what

05:06:47.400 i don't think i'm particularly like i don't think i portray myself as promiscuous or anything

05:06:51.400 like that and i've had guys in dating apps like when we're just talking like if they try to move

05:06:55.880 things that direction which i'm usually not a fan of um they've asked for that and i'm just like

05:07:02.280 what yeah oh i think there might have been a car accident outside and so i think that was the

05:07:08.360 fire truck or something oh my god that's what we heard okay yeah let's just move yeah yeah okay

05:07:15.480 so would you be cool here's the poll would you be cool with your girlfriend sending you a video of

05:07:21.400 her getting effed doggy style not girlfriend girl you're just say like a possible uh okay how

05:07:28.120 about would you be cool with a girl yeah you're interested in with a girl you're just right there's

05:07:36.440 a mutual interest on the girl's part too yeah girl you're talking to uh with a with a girl you're

05:07:40.760 talking would you be cool with a girl you're talking to so biased sending you a video of her um

05:07:47.560 sending you a video of having sexual relations having having sex with a different man

05:07:54.600 uh so it'll be yes and yes and no starting the poll on youtube okay sent

05:07:59.800 okay we'll we'll let that come in the most they're gonna be biased so here let me read this

05:08:07.640 chat you've cried the fuck out of it but i'm so these women are either capping for their feminist

05:08:11.960 agenda or they live in a small messed up corner of humanity they live in their five percent of

05:08:16.600 degenerates thank you smill for your patronage man much appreciated thank you dude the average guy is

05:08:21.560 kind of a degen ask about their porn consumption habits and what they get up to yeah a little bit

05:08:27.000 okay but if we stick to the actual topic i'm i'm not i'm not objecting to porn what i am objecting

05:08:36.680 to is a girl that you're interested in sending you a video of her fucking another dude some guys like

05:08:43.800 it and some guys don't most dudes are not gonna like that i brought up the porn thing to demonstrate

05:08:49.240 it's possible for a guy to enjoy seeing a woman have sex with another man so it's like it's not what

05:08:54.360 we're talking about no no i know it's not but i'm saying if you if you can accept that is it

05:08:58.920 really that crazy to think that maybe i'd enjoy seeing the woman i'm talking to have sex with

05:09:03.000 somebody else yes it's crazy yeah that that's that's totally different why what makes it different

05:09:09.160 brian it's what makes it super different how what do you mean how that's i'm asking you because i

05:09:16.520 don't really see a huge difference between it i understand most women will see so are you trying to

05:09:21.000 make the are you trying to make the argument that if a guy consumes porn then he must to be okay with

05:09:30.120 his girlfriend making porn not he must be but i'm saying you've already desensitized yourself to the

05:09:34.520 point that you can get off to a woman fucking another guy on screen in front of you that's not

05:09:39.560 you so is it that crazy to see to make that leap into your personal life because now it's like a

05:09:44.520 little person no because then it gets into the realm of like jealousy that can factor in jealousy and

05:09:49.960 being territory how's it hypocritical because the way it's not it is the way that i'm thinking of

05:09:54.200 it is like this okay take porn out of the equation say a man really like listen a man really likes

05:10:00.760 listening to music okay and his girlfriend says hey i'm gonna make a music video i'm gonna become

05:10:05.720 a singer um aren't you gonna be really proud of me um the man would be like yeah babe go for it live

05:10:11.960 your dreams i'm really proud of you for doing something that you like and having a job and

05:10:17.560 accomplishing the reason that men don't want to see the woman that they love in porn is because

05:10:24.680 they disrespect porn stars and they disrespect porn it's not the woman doing porn it's the male view

05:10:31.080 of porn i actually disagree i think a guy can have absolutely no issue with porn production he does not

05:10:37.480 object to porn at all and also dislike dislike the idea of his girlfriend sending him

05:10:46.360 a video or girl he's interested in sending him a video of her fucking another guy again goes back

05:10:52.760 to the consent part you can consume porn and also not want your to receive a video of your romantic

05:11:03.800 interest getting fucked by another dude do a lot of girls do this i think a lot of it can be when

05:11:11.320 you're saying like getting fucked maybe not but the blowjob video at least for sure i think that's

05:11:15.960 that's less of a buy-in because you're not actually like it's easy enough for you to see

05:11:19.560 that's bad too but it's not that's also terrible i know that you think it's terrible but you know

05:11:24.680 there's degrees right like sure there's a gun to your head if you had to see a video of your of

05:11:28.840 like your soon-to-be girlfriend sucking dick or getting fucked which would you pick gun to your

05:11:34.520 head why do you put me in these situations i have to i have to to make my point it's honestly it's

05:11:43.400 hard to say because like ah fuck yeah i mean they're both fucking terrible it's hard to say

05:11:50.600 they're both bad in different ways like you see her face and like if it's the girl you love you're

05:11:57.000 looking like the and she's like is she fucking going for it like fucking gluck gluck she's making

05:12:03.240 love oh i can't believe i did that the slurp noise is a bit much

05:12:12.840 but then does that not like get you excited because you're like oh she's going to give me

05:12:15.880 the gluck gluck exactly like she's giving you a taste of what you're about to experience no i can

05:12:21.560 totally agree with you that i think the novelty will wear off and there will come a point one day

05:12:25.320 novelty especially when you make her if you make her your girlfriend where you're like okay i'm

05:12:29.400 not really interested in seeing it because now they want to be the one in the video yeah that's

05:12:32.920 mostly i think the excitement of it is like oh that's going to be me soon yes i agree there you

05:12:38.360 don't you don't brian you need to talk to some men some kinkier men i promise yeah come maybe next

05:12:44.200 year you can be kinky and also not want to see videos of your girlfriend i agree but i'm saying

05:12:51.320 that there's some overlap there do you have any kinks i also think you could be pretty vanilla

05:12:55.480 and want to see that i want to know if brian is kinky or vanilla no brian answer it your favorite

05:13:03.240 position is probably like that lazy spoon one the spoon position this all started with tweets

05:13:09.800 um i mean i know i have something i have some interests you know i have some interests

05:13:14.920 uh tell you what pixie i will answer your question if you answer if a guy has ever made you climax

05:13:22.360 let's not answer the question okay deal all right uh listen like uh

05:13:30.360 well for here's the with that question though what is vanilla to one person or tame to some person might be

05:13:37.960 um like some people would consider like i would i would say wage or some of you here might think

05:13:43.880 actually if a guy was like did light choking that's actually has entered the almost the realm of

05:13:50.280 vanilla behavior to some degree i don't think so yeah like light breath play i think that's already

05:13:58.840 you starting to step outside of your bound your like comfort zone which is like vanilla choking is

05:14:03.160 kinky for sure choking yeah but it's it's almost like mainstream all y'all i don't know what happens in

05:14:07.960 like 2013 all of a sudden all these chicks oh choke me i don't know what happened have you ever seen

05:14:14.360 euphoria no oh dang i was gonna say because in the in the first episode she's hooking up with a guy

05:14:19.000 and he starts to choke her she's like what the fuck and he's like what's wrong and she was like why

05:14:23.640 the fuck did you grab me and start choking me and he was like i just thought you would like it

05:14:26.680 she's like why the fuck would i like that so i do think that in porn it's being normalized but in

05:14:31.160 women's in most women's sex life i don't think they're they the breath play thing is as

05:14:35.240 common as men think choke me i like these stars for real but do you think you're outside of the

05:14:40.600 norm you know you have to do it correctly though definitely see for me i thought i thought it was

05:14:45.960 very interesting the first time that i heard a girl say why would you ever want to degrade me during

05:14:50.680 sex like sex is such a loving thing why would you want to hit me or choke me like that makes me cry

05:14:55.240 and i was like damn i love being choked i feel like the whole choking thing is like kind of a chicken

05:15:02.360 and an egg situation was it has it was it men who was pushing it was it women who were pushing it

05:15:08.360 i don't know i see it in i don't know who started most most porn is made by men for men so i would

05:15:13.160 assume that something in like 2014 all of a sudden choke me daddy the fuck okay same with the labioplasties

05:15:21.480 one day well what about the labioplasties just chicken or an egg situation do you think that do

05:15:26.840 you think women all of a sudden like came up with this idea or do you think men men's ideals and

05:15:31.720 preferences for certain vaginal types is what led to women well i mean if we have a broader

05:15:35.480 conversation about plastic surgery i actually think it's very much the case that women are

05:15:39.640 perpetuating that and not men a lot of men i mean i'll say this now i mean i perhaps i'm not

05:15:45.800 representative of most men i mean i when it comes to the women i'm interested in i'll even tell a

05:15:50.680 girl you don't have to wear uh you don't have to wear makeup around me i don't give a fuck i prefer

05:15:55.560 i'd prefer a girl who's totally flat over who has like perfect fake titties i prefer a girl with a

05:16:00.920 little belly fat than lipo belly i'd prefer a girl um with a small lip than the the

05:16:06.520 fucking lip filler that looks ridiculous so then where did the beauty standard come from

05:16:11.080 other women yeah women i don't know i think you guys are all in competition with each other well

05:16:15.240 yeah no that was like a genuine question for who then well that's interesting because because on one

05:16:21.000 hand women say well i don't wear makeup for you i don't get plastic surgery for men i think that's

05:16:26.040 cope i've always thought that okay babe that's pretty based i ran i think it's pretty cool um

05:16:31.720 but uh because it's like oh because i want to feel better about myself and it's like bbl too

05:16:37.560 yeah bbls i would prefer a girl who has a small butt or no butt over a big

05:16:43.480 fucking bbl bbls are so the loaded the perfect bbl give me a flat a flat booty over a bbl

05:16:50.280 yeah give me give me a cups over some fake titties i'm a feminist here this is actually

05:16:56.360 it's that well it's actually an interesting thing it is a feminist but i think generally speaking more

05:17:00.760 feminists lean towards being uh anti-plastic surgery yeah because they view it as this sort of uh

05:17:07.960 um a beauty standard that um one is dangerous because off with any time you go under anesthesia

05:17:15.880 there are certain risks involved with that so we can all point to i think like examples of

05:17:20.200 celebrities that are clearly overfilled have botched jobs and everybody most people i think

05:17:24.360 would agree that looks bad but most celebrities have plastic surgery and they have the best plastic

05:17:29.240 surgery because it's completely subtle you can't tell that they've had a nose job you can't tell that

05:17:32.920 they've had much filler well nose jobs can be a little harder to detect but uh typically when there's

05:17:38.760 anything like for example bbls or uh breast implants that's yeah you can tell yeah you can tell that

05:17:47.160 territory i've got a radar for fake titties trust me it's pretty good i think it's one of those things

05:17:51.640 that at first women are kind of like it's rewarded celebrity cultures a lot of celebrities have these

05:17:56.920 procedures they're not open about plastic surgery they want to pretend like yeah it's all natural so

05:18:01.400 you start off with wanting to emulate that like oh i want to look like me but better everyone will

05:18:06.760 notice no one will know but then i think it turns into body dysmorphia where you stop being able to

05:18:10.920 tell how unnatural it starts to look word spencer hey spencer do you think you could grab me a water

05:18:17.240 bottle please thank you man um we need to get through the tweets we need to get through some of

05:18:22.040 the notes i want to try to wrap relatively soon but we know how that typically goes um here let me do

05:18:28.600 the super chat and then we're going to get back we're going to try to get through the tweets quick

05:18:32.520 because i we've lingered thank you thank you spencer um these women are i oh did i already read this

05:18:38.040 okay my bad yeah nick could you just remove that here uh let's see oh let's do the twitter oh did we

05:18:44.360 do the poll yeah i think we did didn't show it oh it's not showing on my end here let me do the poll

05:18:50.120 uh so 90 for the poll would you be cool with a girl you're talking to sending you a video of her having

05:18:56.200 sex 95 said no five percent said yes so the five percent i say subscribe but that's out of like

05:19:06.360 how many thousand people also it's a small sample size selection bias maybe

05:19:15.960 is that the new president of argentina yeah

05:19:19.480 javier mille is that i'm not sure what his name is but i recognize his look yeah okay i'm gonna end

05:19:24.200 the poll thank you guys um okay twitter oh sure pull it up um sophia can i have you read this

05:19:33.240 as someone who discovered his girlfriend at the time had done porn and had i had seen it i can tell

05:19:40.200 you have ripped my heart right out of my chest men are inherently territorial and that is not always

05:19:45.560 necessarily a bad thing sorry i'm losing my voice it it informs our instinct to protect those we love

05:19:52.680 interesting oh fuck so this is a that i know why that that auto triggered um yo like legate launius jr

05:20:01.240 appreciate your uh very generous super chat thank you man and i definitely uh agree it's definitely

05:20:07.080 i think related one to territorial being territorial and uh protecting her from other dick precisely

05:20:14.760 i also just feel like it's kind of disrespectful right like it's disrespectful

05:20:19.320 how to have sex with other people or what do you mean what if this isn't a perfect this isn't a

05:20:26.600 perfect example but like imagine for example ah this is different though because this is related to

05:20:32.280 infidelity so this is not a good like if a girl sent like you were already dating her and she's like

05:20:37.160 look who i just fucked okay that would be that's infidelity so i feel like i was about to say that's not a

05:20:41.800 fair argument from my point but um that's just i don't know that'd be a turn off son well i think

05:20:48.840 in his case like that that would hurt me too if i was dating someone and like already dating them and

05:20:54.360 i didn't know that they had done porn in the past and like i saw that not expecting that agree um it

05:21:00.280 would change my whole view of the relationship dynamic um but i think what people forget is that

05:21:06.440 porn is work sex work is work it's a job it's not um like a swinger lifestyle um it can be if that's

05:21:15.080 what you want it to be but at the basis it's just a job i'm just i'm sending the asteroid for that whole

05:21:21.160 conversation the asteroid i just that okay um it scared me at first i did not pull up the uh tweets please

05:21:30.520 uh sophia mina i'm trying to give this man all my heart and throat that's very romantic like two

05:21:38.200 years ago i don't know why that i included that one you you scrolled all the way down to that one

05:21:44.360 he was looking for our crosses he was looking for the crosses yeah

05:21:50.200 next sav uh-oh because one exists in real life and one doesn't trans people exist and are being

05:21:57.480 hate-crimed every single day for existing your bible is paper and god is imaginary

05:22:03.800 true um what do you what do you want well the you know whatever you can have your opinion on the

05:22:10.280 middle sentence there but um uh you know the god is a matter your bible is paper i should have brought

05:22:15.640 this up while charlie charlie kirk was here he would have probably had some thoughts on that um what's

05:22:20.120 that i said the bible is man-made and god no one can actually say that he exists so yes

05:22:25.400 i would say imaginary well we'll save that for the uh whatever religious podcast um okay moving

05:22:31.560 on up or next i don't get why men get shit for being simps like why wouldn't you want to worship

05:22:36.680 your girl period if he ain't a simp i don't want him yep really he's not obsessing me he has to love

05:22:44.440 me he has to you know i need to have a little cook in them too because i'm trying to fuck everyone

05:22:49.800 else the what you have you ever seen the boys no uh damn i was gonna say there's a character who like

05:22:55.240 really in love with his wife and there's multiple times where in between him doing all the like

05:22:59.160 action superhero shit he's like no we're gonna go home we're gonna i'm gonna watch downton abbey with

05:23:03.800 you and we're gonna get super cozy we're gonna like drink wine together like he keeps doing all

05:23:08.280 this like lovey-dovey shit on the side that's easily supposed to be kind of like a mockery of him

05:23:11.800 but i think it's a turn-on to most women for a man to be engaged in doing those things together

05:23:15.560 i don't know man that sounds like a lot of work i think relationship dynamics i think it tends to work

05:23:23.400 better when the dynamic is the woman is simping for the man versus the reverse like watching the

05:23:28.520 football game with her with him talking about taylor swift no no no i'm talking about like if you're

05:23:34.120 talking about like a woman simping for the guy like doing more things that he wants to be doing

05:23:38.440 i think relate i think the dynamic works out better typically if the girl's more interested in the man

05:23:43.720 than the reverse why i don't know why why because because i think well one women have like you

05:23:54.840 disagree kind of yeah that's fine well i think one women are sort of accustomed to it's much more

05:24:02.040 frequent for uh women to have simps like that's super common whereas like for a guy to like have a

05:24:09.640 girl simping it's a bit more rare um and then like there will be men who simp for you that you're like

05:24:17.240 really not attracted to um so that's a good question though why is that um i haven't really

05:24:24.280 actually given that a whole lot of thought um actually i i feel like i have it but it's not coming to me

05:24:30.600 um i don't think it's true i feel like a relationship is way less likely to work out

05:24:35.800 if the guy likes the woman less there's not mutual attraction there like i think a relationship can

05:24:42.360 work where the guy loves a woman more than she loves the guy but i don't think it could work out

05:24:45.640 where the woman loves the guy more than he loves the girl because he could be unfaithful he could leave

05:24:49.560 her he could break up with her i think more often because women have a hard time like finding guys that

05:24:54.360 they like they will settle in that sense or whatever be willing to pull more of the emotional labor in

05:24:59.560 that relationship and stay with him i agree yeah and madison disagreed with you but i don't know if

05:25:07.320 she agrees with me i just think like a woman can have a lot of simps but she doesn't like

05:25:13.960 any of them like so it doesn't even matter to her yeah that's true yeah like i know i here's i'm

05:25:21.880 i know i have an argument for this but it's not coming to me i know i know you're gonna say it's code

05:25:26.920 but like i i have an argument for this but it's fucking evading me right now did you like a media

05:25:32.200 example huh did you have a media example or like what made you feel like that was that's the way

05:25:37.000 that it is oh man okay i'm on the spot here because i i know like i i'm uh i'm trying to think here hold

05:25:48.840 on um i do think it's more often the case that you'll hear frequently for example that women like

05:26:00.200 the chase and if guys like way too into them they don't they don't like that for example like why are

05:26:06.200 women attracted to men who display dark triad personality traits like why is there a trope of

05:26:12.360 women attracted to bad boys for example and typically bad boys aren't going to be the guys that are like

05:26:17.240 you know going through these like extravagant courtship let me bring you flowers i'm really

05:26:22.760 fucking into you they're going to actually be the guy who's kind of the jerk who's kind of the

05:26:26.600 asshole who actually isn't really like giving you that attention you want and that will sort of elicit

05:26:34.600 this goes both ways we want what we can't have i disagree no i think what i disagree most data but

05:26:39.800 isn't it the case that women are attracted to dark not all women are attracted to dark triad

05:26:45.480 personality traits and women are attracted to bad boys most women are not and most bad boys aren't

05:26:50.920 going to do the simp shit of here's some flowers and and they're going to simp the bad boy is not

05:26:57.080 going to simp the bad boy is going to be the guy who doesn't give a fuck about wait wait wait a couple

05:27:01.320 things i think first of all i think there's like multiple studies that show most women are not really

05:27:05.320 attracted to dark triad traits um but from the women who are attracted to dark triad traits what's the

05:27:10.600 term habistroph is it habistrophilia to the woman the subsection of women who are attracted to that

05:27:17.080 um they still want the bad boy to be a simp the fantasy there is oh this guy who doesn't give a

05:27:22.040 fuck about anyone cares about me yes yes the flowers and usually that that asshole is not as standoff as

05:27:29.800 your standoffish as you're portraying usually it's like give and take like he'll give some attention and

05:27:34.120 then when you start to reciprocate it all of a sudden he's not that should make you upset

05:27:37.720 because because you'll you'll also like it's interesting to me for example women will have

05:27:42.600 men in the friend zone and these men are perfectly prepared to provide or they're perfectly prepared

05:27:47.960 to uh be loyal dutiful boyfriends but um you often hear women constant constantly complain about

05:27:56.840 fuck boys who are sending the what you doing text at 11 p.m on a friday night um women are chasing

05:28:05.640 after those kind of guys so uh it occurs to me that women are actually quite interested in men who

05:28:13.560 don't give them the i think it's because of trauma because they think that they can change him

05:28:18.920 yeah they think it's like but in reality anyways i i can't do a deep dive on every one of these

05:28:26.440 tweets so let's keep it moving because there's a lot hey fyi it takes a man and a woman to have a

05:28:32.840 child where the fuck are the constant consequences for men well we sort of already talked about this

05:28:36.920 but i mean like it is interesting like a lot of women would say like if a guy's like oh fuck i don't

05:28:42.520 want to like be financially responsible for like let's say a guy has sex with a woman knocks uh gets

05:28:48.360 her pregnant he doesn't want the kid she wants to keep it what do you tell him tough you're out of

05:28:54.360 luck right he has no choice and then he leaves there's an entire epidemic of fatherless homes

05:29:02.600 and like men stepping like just leaving all together like they're like is there a penalty

05:29:07.160 for a man not paying child support that's meaningfully enforced yes no but is it actually

05:29:12.360 yes yes the okay hold on that's meaningfully enforced i know yes yes yes yeah but most no no

05:29:18.280 let me answer that let me answer that so actually you can go to jail for not paying child in the united

05:29:24.040 states in the united states we have recognized that it is i don't know the uh that it is perhaps

05:29:32.280 even immoral that people should be imprisoned for debts in the united states we've done away with debtors

05:29:39.240 prisons uh you can't go to prison for an unpaid debt with the exception of child support payments so yes

05:29:47.960 absolutely if if you get behind on your child support payments absolutely you will be sent to i

05:29:54.760 don't know if it's you get hit up with contempt but you will be sent to jail for not paying if you

05:30:01.160 don't pay child support but will you be no most men who are not paying child support

05:30:07.080 do you really think that the majority of men who fail to pay child support are getting the jail penalty

05:30:12.200 or are they getting a slightly smaller penalty i are what yes sure if one only considers the

05:30:23.000 substantial cost of incarceration it becomes a very expensive nonetheless according to one estimate

05:30:28.440 50 000 people are incarcerated in u.s prisons and jails for non-payment of child support and is that

05:30:34.360 at any given time or is that over like perhaps you get 30 days in jail or something i wonder compare

05:30:39.960 that to the amount of people not paying child support in any case let's say that number that

05:30:45.400 would be eclipsed by the number so there's 50k in jail for that currently but how many men

05:30:50.920 are not in jail for non-payment has their what is their the government the government has very strong

05:30:58.120 reach to enforce child support now they there's there's jail for example they can uh garnish your

05:31:05.000 wages that's typically how they collect most child support right so it's not like if there's a child

05:31:10.280 support ruling against you even if you like don't willingly put pay the government will strongly

05:31:18.440 pursue all avenues to collect your money whether that's from a tax return whether that's through a

05:31:25.000 wage garnishment well and also some men don't pay child support because i i might be wrong but i'm

05:31:30.760 pretty sure um it is up to the women to seek out child support from the man so if they just leave

05:31:36.040 and the mom doesn't want to deal with it talking from personal experience um number of women who

05:31:41.240 don't even bother pursuing it yeah you know they think it's going to be pointless too well yeah but

05:31:45.400 it is a law to pay child support is the point well the the government has very capable resources uh to

05:31:52.840 allow them to collect on behalf of the mother uh and yes there are absolutely uh again we've done

05:32:00.120 away with debtors prisons with the exception of child support payments i mean i'm not a carceral

05:32:04.120 feminist i don't think they should be i don't think the penalty for non-payment of child support

05:32:07.800 should even be jail well it is but it is there's 50 000 men but we have to compare that to the

05:32:13.240 amount of men not paying child support and then on top of that i do believe that um what is it i mean

05:32:18.760 baked into being a single mother is usually oh higher rates of poverty not being able to afford as

05:32:23.320 much so for you to even get child support you have to bring it to the court which then becomes

05:32:27.240 a question how many women are like i'm not going to go through this court process it might be

05:32:31.080 expensive getting a lawyer i'm already a single mother you don't need a lawyer i mean just there's

05:32:36.040 there's i mean the government is actually i think to some degree incentivized to uh do this but

05:32:41.960 you literally just go to court you've it's probably you fill out a bit of paperwork and there's like

05:32:48.360 social workers who will do everything for you to try to get child support so you don't you don't need a

05:32:57.080 lawyer to do it okay to my understanding is if the guy starts contesting it or start saying like no

05:33:02.600 like this isn't and then that's going to become a whole legal battle right if the guy's just going

05:33:06.840 to be like no yeah i accept it but if there's like contesting going on there then that could add like

05:33:12.920 a bunch more um what is it labor on multiple fronts and that's why like a lot of do you think

05:33:17.320 do you think he has to pay it what do you have to contest um what is it contest like basically oh

05:33:23.800 no like i'm actually i should have custody of the child instead of you well that's a whole

05:33:28.040 custody bottle exactly different well no it's not completely different because if you want to avoid

05:33:32.280 paying child support then theoretically speaking you should contest for the custody of your child so

05:33:36.280 that way you don't have to worry about child support that makes sense well yeah yeah we were just

05:33:40.680 talking about and 50 000 in a country of like 230 million almost how many people in the united states

05:33:46.760 330 million sorry 330 million people 50 000 is actually as a percentage wise of men it's almost

05:33:52.920 nothing it's not good but it could be at any given time but perhaps over the course of a year maybe

05:33:57.400 it's 10x that oh maybe it's 500 000 in a year we're putting 500 000 500 i don't know if it's 10x but

05:34:06.200 if we are putting 500 000 men a year in prison for non-payment of child support perhaps perhaps they can't

05:34:14.040 perhaps they can't meet the bird i don't know yeah that's why i don't think it's cruel to do it

05:34:19.240 exactly saying there's not like do you think financially single moms are better off or worse off

05:34:27.720 than like their then their female counterparts that are like in a relationship with with somebody

05:34:34.360 are single moms better off than single girls no i'm talking about like wait just for the interest of

05:34:40.280 time i i know i i'm gonna move on i'm gonna move on but yeah i'm just saying i'm just saying maybe

05:34:48.360 in the here's my position i just don't think if you ask a lot of single moms ask them is it easy to

05:34:52.520 get access to your child support from the father of your child a lot of them will say no it's not very

05:34:58.040 easy and if they don't it's like oh well he could go to jail or whatever it's like that ain't happened to

05:35:03.080 my to the to my baby daddy sure um look i just think uh i think what would be fair in the states

05:35:11.320 where abortion is legal i think men ought to have legal paternal surrender where they can opt out of

05:35:20.120 child support yeah i agree i think that's better i think and actually you know what i think it would

05:35:25.960 actually convince a lot of people to the pro-choice side if if this was like the platform if this was the

05:35:32.760 pro-choice platform hey if you're uh if you vote yes for abortion uh you men you can opt out of

05:35:42.920 child support that's fair right i think it's only fair okay moving on all right moving on

05:35:50.520 sav it's so sexy when men talk about the okay we talked about that but uh i don't know about that

05:35:55.400 when my man asked me to be his girlfriend actually you read it sav go ahead um 2021 jesus

05:36:00.680 fuck okay when my man asked me to be his girlfriend that should better be cute as

05:36:05.320 fucking extra i'm tired of this basic ass real still real what do you okay how's that look like

05:36:12.520 like how would you want like fireworks and shit uh well i can give it an example of how my current

05:36:19.960 boyfriend did it and it was cute because in all of my last relationships it never was like asked to

05:36:25.960 me it always kind of was just like oh well we're dating so i guess we're this like there was no

05:36:31.560 i never got asked in a way how did he ask you um well he planned a whole date for me so he woke me up

05:36:40.520 to because it was the day after my birthday um so he woke me up to balloons and a bunch of roses or like

05:36:48.280 not roses but flowers um and then he was like get ready we're gonna go places whatever uh fast forward we

05:36:54.680 went to santa monica walked to the end of the pier he had like in the bag that he gave me at the

05:37:00.200 beginning of the day um it had a bunch of candy on top and then at the bottom it was well because

05:37:05.960 my ears are stretched so he gave me like a um a pair of plugs and at the bottom like underneath

05:37:11.080 the plugs it had like a note and it said will you be my girlfriend

05:37:19.640 i don't know what's funny about that but okay

05:37:24.120 i feel like a lot of people do that or just i thought that was cute that's super

05:37:28.520 i think it's a bit extra i think it's a big extra i don't i think it's adorable first off i think the

05:37:34.600 girl should ask for the relationship i did uh no i think the girl should ask that should be why is

05:37:41.640 that girl side but if you're if you're the guy and you you are i don't get what was funny about

05:37:46.280 that though i don't know what cued the you should just be like it should be like the most casual like

05:37:51.000 aloof sort of i disagree it should be getting into it just be like

05:37:54.760 no because committing to someone and getting in a relationship with someone

05:38:00.600 he's not being serious you're baiting what that's it's a bait what do you see it i see the bait what's

05:38:09.240 the bait you're baiting for an argument no i just think bro first off i have a girl i just think the

05:38:15.320 girl should should should go for it i think the girl should go for it but um i did ask we both the

05:38:21.480 girl should definitely go for it but if the if a guy if you are gonna ask it should just be like

05:38:27.800 i guess you can be my girlfriend i guess i would run away i'd say goodbye okay next tweet next

05:38:34.120 tweet you know what before you just move on my ex he asked me to be his girlfriend with a painting

05:38:38.600 imagine that that's really cute if you think that's extra you did like a painting day and we were

05:38:43.880 a book painting but we couldn't see what we were doing and then hazes the whole thing

05:38:50.440 but then i broke up with him anyways so i'm just like anti-romance basically so

05:38:54.440 whatever uh go ahead it was a little cringy but it was hard

05:39:00.600 men continue to show every day why they don't deserve to live

05:39:03.320 sav we literally went over this on the last time i was on this show rude

05:39:08.520 do you want to walk this back sav i feel like this is a little man-hating

05:39:11.480 okay it's a little man-hating that's fine that's fine

05:39:17.560 ah misandria is alive and well in 2024 okay okay next go ahead okay we got tina here waking my man

05:39:25.000 up with a bj while you simps beg for my attention i don't know why okay next

05:39:32.440 time to get up and do what i do best humiliate white boys

05:39:35.400 um wait what's up wait sophia we got we're almost done sophia come back i'm so sorry i have

05:39:45.960 not eaten anything all day and i feel like i'm gonna put puke that's why i was in the bathroom

05:39:49.000 yo i i got you need a banana yeah go get stuck wait can you guys hook her up with it can you guys

05:39:54.680 hook her up with a beginner we have like three hours to drive yeah yeah we're gonna try rap soon just

05:39:59.480 it's a very phallic i got you i mean that's all i i got chips and and banana are there any more

05:40:05.240 bananas you want a banana you want to just eat it at the table you know yeah that's fine um wait so

05:40:11.320 going back to uh tina's thing go ahead nick we just we're gonna have to go through these quick

05:40:16.840 uh humiliate white boys what do you tina read this

05:40:22.280 it is what it is no just read it time to do time to get up and do what i do best

05:40:26.760 how do you do that like what ways first they pay me and then second i just say i'd rather black

05:40:34.600 dick and that's it now like actually humiliate you want to humiliate them because they're white

05:40:40.920 it's not because they're white really um so why specify that they're because usually that's kind

05:40:45.240 of the cooks that come to me those bbc cooks usually they're they're like oh they they want to

05:40:50.120 feel bad about being white and they're like black is superior it's it's a whole like role play thing

05:40:54.600 so i was just doing that purely for the cooks well it is kind of fun sometimes that's so

05:40:58.520 interesting he's appealing to her stop it get some help okay next yeah if there was no demand for it

05:41:05.480 i wouldn't do it so real men don't eat beef are you vegan i'm vegetarian yeah i used to be vegan for

05:41:10.440 a few years though but they eat on your period okay i'm yeah i stand by that one

05:41:17.000 this would be a good time to say that i have not gone down on the girl since the bush administration

05:41:24.840 no pun intended uh i'm a fan of pussy but i i don't just posting your l like that any yeah that's

05:41:31.880 not an l that's a w that is you're saying you don't ever eat pussy no not since the bush

05:41:36.440 because you don't want to what happened i feel like men that don't eat pussy don't deserve

05:41:41.160 pussy my favorite orgasms come from because you don't want to that's my personal i always preface

05:41:47.240 this by saying that my goal i'd like to make my girl come first so i'll do other things to get her to

05:41:54.680 come but i what's that fucking song by meat love i'll do anything for love but i won't do that

05:42:03.880 i won't eat pussy sorry um word are you cool if she doesn't want to blow you yeah that's fine i

05:42:12.200 mean okay if it's mutual but if it's like a retributive thing i'm gonna like raise an eyebrow

05:42:17.000 but like it's not a deal breaker would it be would it be better if she's still down yes and actually

05:42:22.760 at least from my encounters they're fine with the arrangement was it because of like an experience

05:42:28.120 you had that no and i'm not like i don't think it's not like a oh pussies are gross it's not even

05:42:32.840 that just i got neck problems you know there's a couple of other things honestly as a girl and

05:42:37.880 this is like a lot of people don't agree but i don't really like being eaten out anyway so

05:42:45.160 it doesn't really do anything um yeah another fan sorry but i still think you got to make your

05:42:51.560 girl calm as many times as possible preferably preferably before you you know so and i don't

05:42:57.480 object i'm fine with toy use so i mean i don't have any qualms there have you ever used a toy in your

05:43:02.040 penis oh like a like a flesh like a yeah no a cock ring or like a thing yeah flesh like something

05:43:11.160 with your cock for you next tweet would you ever use that with a girl oh no next tweet uh

05:43:19.640 as a man why is your dick small whoa why are you hating on let's go why is i don't even get that why is

05:43:26.120 your i don't get that it's just this is what it is i don't know because it's like targeted towards

05:43:31.720 someone i think it's just like in general like a lot of these cooks but i was just it was just a

05:43:37.160 thought is it just in general like how dare you men have small bonuses honestly yeah yeah how dare a

05:43:42.520 man the way he is i thought there are trans women come about i'm joking okay next okay i'm probably

05:43:49.800 gonna cancel this man is perfect in all the right ways he gets off on seeing me fuck bbc oh yes this

05:43:55.480 is kind of related to our previous conversation look at that first reply yeah i'm like i gotta have

05:43:59.480 a bit of cook in them for sure what was the first reply it was like hell yeah i love it literally

05:44:04.760 i would love to be your long-term cuckold partner and would support you most men are not cucks next

05:44:10.680 just another day making white men broke wow tina that's uh that's just my life i guess have you made

05:44:17.800 i mean i you have you actually made a man broke though well they say they do they are broke isn't

05:44:24.040 that like would that mean meet the definition of financial abuse i don't think they're actually

05:44:31.800 it's consensual so i don't think it's really abuse if they're asking for it and they're getting off on

05:44:36.520 it i think it's just it's a safe place to um explore kinks i guess and it's a huge one that's

05:44:42.440 my main demographic so yeah if you don't get it you don't have to get it but yeah there's a there's

05:44:49.560 a huge community of them out there it's weird but i love it all right i mean yep

05:45:02.200 new ring thanks to the random arab man i was nice to for longer than five minutes

05:45:06.520 yep that was in dubai nice some random guy brought me for lunch and then the next day

05:45:11.800 he brought me a ring i don't know no it was none of that crazy shit no no i went to dubai all on my

05:45:16.760 own all my own money i've never done any of that you know okay next i wish i did though i'm trying

05:45:22.760 to find them making men nervous is my daily routine what do you what do you mean there tina

05:45:27.400 the cooks it's all for the cooks the cooks yeah and the simps what do you mean make them nervous

05:45:32.520 how do you make it just exist just existing just being hot do you like men do i like men

05:45:37.960 yeah do you like men yeah i do yeah i wouldn't say i hate them some can be very annoying and a bit

05:45:43.000 pathetic but you know um they're they're the ones that are supplying my life so okay i bet your sims

05:45:49.720 like came overhearing that oh definitely if there's any sims watching this they're probably jerking off

05:45:53.720 right now yeah i'm gonna get loads of dms after this field society um next another day another man

05:46:01.720 getting on my nerves you really don't like me i have my phases you know if it's like you get some

05:46:09.000 dumb messages when i'm in this industry so it's yeah yeah definitely yep and usually it's just

05:46:14.760 people who don't send me money when i ask my favorite smell is men with money there you go

05:46:19.960 you can see what i like what i don't like you just have all right okay next i'm attracting so

05:46:25.400 many beautiful men that want to give me all their money and allow me to be

05:46:28.280 be my best host self this is amazing yep who wouldn't want a life like that that sounds

05:46:33.480 pretty cool to me it's gonna be hot and make money i agree yep

05:46:41.960 okay next oh my god there's more i love when a weak white boy sends me hundreds

05:46:46.920 and minutes without hesitation i do i do love that yep

05:46:53.480 do you just look up like irltina x white boys or something

05:46:58.280 or do i really tweet about that that much next

05:47:01.640 i hate when people say i'm hot because

05:47:05.720 okay real all right little hubris there okay next i hate it

05:47:11.800 well how do you even defend that one how do you defend that one okay maybe i hate men

05:47:18.280 that day i don't know oh my god that's so funny

05:47:26.040 it's interesting that we're laughing about this because i feel like if there were like

05:47:29.720 misogynistic tweets like this if there were

05:47:32.920 you think there are a misogynistic tweets like thousands of likes right now it's not hypothetical

05:47:39.240 men nowadays they tweet about that and they get a podcast

05:47:41.720 real what do you mean

05:47:45.320 it's hypothetical misogyny get the

05:47:47.240 fuck out of here you know there's entire accounts dedicated to nothing but this oh well

05:47:51.880 sure like the one you saw that clip of the of satan sinner like going off on that check on the

05:47:57.240 show right that one went viral and it was like he

05:47:59.480 fucking spit some knowledge to this fucking whore right to her face it's like yeah it exists it's

05:48:03.960 there and it's getting lots of engagement it's on both sides well in terms of what i think is

05:48:10.280 mainstream acceptable it occurs to me that it seems like it's

05:48:13.480 more acceptable to be misandrist than it is to be misogynistic probably why do you think that is

05:48:19.880 why do i think that is well i mean it certainly counters this narrative that there's a patriarchy

05:48:25.080 no how could it possibly be more socially acceptable to hate men if there's a patriarchy

05:48:31.560 than the reverse because when women hate men they tweet about it when men hate women they kill them

05:48:38.760 so i have a rebuttal to that i have a rebuttal to that do you know do you know who uh andy warhol is

05:48:44.360 yeah do you know what happened to him no he was murdered by a feminist really yes the valerie

05:48:52.200 so oh wait yeah valerie solanus she wrote the scum manifesto which is sometimes taught

05:48:58.280 in feminist uh and i i don't want to like straw man feminism but i do believe the scum manifesto is

05:49:05.800 like studied under uh in some when did this happen i believe this was in the 60s or 70s

05:49:13.880 we got an example from like the last five years right come on i don't doubt that like i can think of

05:49:19.320 another example that was recently i heard in the news there was a woman who uh she was in a marijuana

05:49:26.120 induced psychosis and she stabbed her boyfriend to death um and she got off on manslaughter with a

05:49:33.480 hundred hours of community service now i certainly that's i think that's certainly a case of female

05:49:38.920 privilege if a do you think a man who murdered his girlfriend and blamed it on marijuana induced

05:49:47.560 psychosis would get off with community service yes i don't think so i don't think so there was a

05:49:53.240 case in the united states where a man slept he was sleep he claimed that he was sleep blocking when he

05:49:57.800 killed his girlfriend and he got off are you talking about the south african uh sartor i think it was

05:50:03.080 sartorius i don't believe there's a case in south africa there was a case in south africa where he

05:50:08.360 he killed his girlfriend but he thought she was a home intruder and he got got off i don't know there was

05:50:13.240 also one in canada where a guy claimed the same defense but he was high on bath salts and he

05:50:17.960 claimed automatism which is when you literally become so high you fail to know the difference

05:50:21.880 between right and wrong because of a drug-induced like psychosis if you make comparisons for violent

05:50:26.280 crime and even sexual crimes for example when like for example a woman uh just being considerate of

05:50:32.360 youtube tos here uh if a woman uh essays like you hear often stories of uh high school teachers yeah that's

05:50:40.840 gross absolutely um they tend to have lighter sentences than like their male counterparts like

05:50:47.160 male high school teachers who uh essay or it's not even if it's uh well uh statutory whatever yeah

05:50:54.040 it's not taking this seriously yeah um it's not taking this seriously and same i would argue same

05:50:58.040 with if there's like a a murder too generally speaking men get uh much harsher prison prison

05:51:05.960 sentences than women if you control for for uh various things who do you think gets killed more

05:51:11.080 often by their intimate partner men or women it's who more often yeah well i i have when it comes to

05:51:18.120 their partner who's more likely to get killed by that men or women women i do i i i do think it's

05:51:24.440 probably women but i think actually if you look at the rates of uh i forgot if it's um

05:51:30.760 um if it's both direction if it's both direction domestic violence the rates are actually similar

05:51:39.400 or i i don't know if it's one directional where it's just the woman abusing the man and just the

05:51:43.960 man abusing the woman it's actually the same and actually something that is interesting to me

05:51:49.720 if we remove heterosexuality from this and we look just at gay couples so two men oh no but

05:51:56.520 no no no no hold on hold on hold on if we hold on if we look at gay couples where it's two men right

05:52:02.440 apparently men are very violent the domestic violence rate is half that uh in in gay couples

05:52:11.320 versus lesbian couples when there's two women why is it that when two women are uh in a romantic

05:52:18.280 relationship they're more likely to be violent towards each other than when it's two men explain

05:52:23.080 that yeah okay sure um the side of that is like kind of funky because it's not necessarily that

05:52:27.880 women are more violent towards their women partners but that woman might be more willing to actually

05:52:32.680 report that violence while men might be more hesitant because oh like you know they're men they're not

05:52:37.720 supposed to get abused i was gonna take it down to socialization i was gonna say on average do you

05:52:43.000 think a gay man is more effeminate or masculine than your average guy probably more feminine okay so you

05:52:51.800 would see that reflected in their social behaviors and patterns in their private relationships so

05:52:56.360 women are less likely to abuse men so if you have a more feminine man but here's the thing

05:53:01.320 and then lesbians are more likely to be more masculine than your average woman right

05:53:06.520 they're more i i suppose they well it's hard to say really so that tendency that you see i don't

05:53:11.720 want to paint with a broad brush but what is interesting though is that

05:53:16.280 the okay if we reintroduce heterosexual couples to this so the incidence of domestic violence is

05:53:24.840 highest in lesbian couples in the middle you have heterosexual couples and at the lowest tier you have

05:53:29.560 gay couples so another uh hypothesis for why it's higher in lesbians is because women are socialized to

05:53:37.880 mostly have relationships with men so we don't know what it's like to recognize those uh like the signs and

05:53:44.120 symptoms of someone who might be a domestic abuser or abusive in other women so it's harder like

05:53:49.480 lesbians are more predisposed to not flag that if that makes sense whereas women are very in tune

05:53:55.480 with the signs and red flags of a man who could potentially be abusive i don't really think that's

05:54:00.680 a rebuttal to the fact that it's not a rebuttal it's just a hypothesis sure but in lesbian relationships

05:54:05.560 there's a higher incidence of domestic violence it goes back to where it's two women and two men

05:54:11.240 is it really that goes back to like is this really incident but again i do need to move on

05:54:15.480 i i gotta move on i'm sorry in the in the go ahead nick tweet tweets

05:54:25.320 no more i'm attracting so many beautiful men oh okay next i love when a weak white boy sends me

05:54:33.080 hundreds of minutes without hesitation did we read that one all these directs uh oh we're going back

05:54:38.440 black i think yeah wait i think we skipped one or two two were yeah yeah i think so

05:54:47.400 okay man that one's not that interesting men proving again they're no good for anything again

05:54:52.440 this is a very misandrist okay i don't know what happened there someone must have done something to

05:54:56.920 deserve that tweet okay all right next oh this is okay we don't have time for that uh are is that all the

05:55:04.920 tweets that was so many yeah i think that's all the tweets okay let me i'm gonna finish my all the

05:55:10.920 white boys i'm gonna finish all my pre-show notes and then we're gonna try to wrap up here pretty soon

05:55:15.560 okay so let me see we uh got hmm oh okay let's do pull up the stifler one here i'll do that stifler

05:55:27.240 ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten we're gonna start with you sophia go ahead

05:55:30.760 how i look if you were uh rate name ten books um how do you rate what's your self-assessment of

05:55:44.680 your physical attractiveness on a scale of one to ten nine okay you already know ten okay

05:55:53.480 i'd say a cool eight seven ten maybe like an eight a ten eight nine ten ten ten what did you say

05:56:10.360 again eight eight okay i think you should do zero or one i'm like i used to say i'm a six i'm a five

05:56:18.520 because i need to lose some weight i think you should do zero or one total binary hot or not

05:56:24.600 nah because i think we can all agree that that there's some people that are like who are still

05:56:29.080 attractive but there's some people that are more attractive than that so i think a scale system is uh

05:56:35.080 is good nah it's pretty good it's pretty good i think we do have a little bit of delusion tonight i

05:56:40.520 want to say you know there's some delusion here we've got a couple tens at the table no offense

05:56:44.040 i've got more than the tens that said they were tens and yet y'all said you were less than that so

05:56:48.840 yeah there's delusion you guys are not recognizing how hot you guys are

05:56:57.480 okay all right erin all right you can think it's delusion but i also think beauty is in the eye of

05:57:02.360 the beholder so i personally think i'm a ten she thinks she's a ten i think she's a ten but if you

05:57:07.160 don't think i'm a ten i don't i don't yeah i don't blame you you could i could not be your type

05:57:12.520 there could be another girl that i think is a well less attractive but you could think she's a

05:57:18.840 ten and i could think she's more of a seven you know i don't think that you're unattractive but i

05:57:23.480 don't think you're a ten and i'm not saying that like to like oh that's a fucking own i'm just saying

05:57:28.760 that descriptive trying to be as like objective exactly thank you appreciate it thank you for that

05:57:35.160 thank you yeah and i respect that because again 100 and i love you for that um but again that's

05:57:42.840 again that's you and your and your views but i i mean personally i think i'm a ten that's okay

05:57:49.080 period i said nine because i want to gain more weight and i feel like i'll be more confident

05:57:54.600 after i do that's just a personal thing it's a personal goal achievement what do you rate yourself

05:58:00.760 oh i said it i said oh you said yeah i'm like a five right now i gotta lose a weight lose a bit

05:58:04.840 of weight i got a dad you're already like you're number one baby yeah but i mean i still it's not

05:58:11.560 that's not a w because it's okay it's graded on a curve 3.4 out of seven that's like put would put me

05:58:18.760 at a five out there you go there you go but i have a i think i've got a wait did you make that change

05:58:23.960 based off that no okay no i i internal i used to say six but i've downgraded to a five because i

05:58:30.440 used to say seven one time you said seven no i said 6.9 on a good day that was okay okay i rounded

05:58:35.960 up or whatever but uh sorry ladies some of you said 10 i'm sorry y'all y'all are uh i've been humbled

05:58:45.000 no tense here no tense here what celebrity would you say is a 10 then

05:58:49.800 emrata i feel like i don't know i mean like

05:58:58.760 kristin kristin kruik she's like in her late 30s or even 40s now like young kristin kruik

05:59:06.760 who's this she's on smallville i give her like a solid nine she's a solid nine

05:59:13.800 only superman actress i know is terry hatcher she's pretty fine i don't i don't think you'd say

05:59:18.600 she's i'm trying to i'm trying to think of like a girl who's like exceptionally uh

05:59:22.680 attractive that i can just off the top of my head we don't have to pull megan yeah megan fox for sure

05:59:26.920 she's a 10. but yeah i mean come on you guys are you guys are a bit delusional that's what you think

05:59:31.960 though i mean like got it earlier you said like 10 minutes being like no name calling

05:59:38.920 i could say you're never i'm delusional i could say you're doing yeah maybe you think i'm less than

05:59:44.600 the five i mean that's totally fine i but but it's like i'm not i'm not upset by it but like

05:59:52.440 it's quite literally delusional like if you think you're on like if if you rate yourself a 10

05:59:58.200 you just don't have a tenuous you have you have a tenuous grasp on reality

06:00:04.280 maybe you're attending delusion i don't know i think i'm a 10 of 10 and my boyfriend thinks i'm

06:00:08.120 10 of 10 is he delusional also yeah or do you think it's a boyfriend's responsibility to like hype you up

06:00:12.680 no i mean why why are all these people subscribing to our our os they don't think that we're a 10 out

06:00:19.080 of 10. why would a guy settle for anything let me answer that question do you think do you think a

06:00:23.960 guy needs to think that you're a 10 in order to subscribe pretty much if they have to be

06:00:28.280 attracted to you you are paying me hundreds of dollars to look at me you have to i mean you're

06:00:34.680 hard-earned money that you're thinking that i'm at least a 10. i mean yeah i could think of like a uh

06:00:39.400 something here that like what if a guy has a kink for like average oh my god the cove

06:00:49.000 if a guy is spending his hard-earned money towards an only fans model and hundreds thousands

06:00:53.880 clearly yeah clearly he thinks you're a fucking 10 of 10. i'm not sure about i don't i think you

06:00:59.800 can be spending thousands on on six of tens really but he could be spending it on anyone sure yeah he

06:01:05.800 could just find an average woman in real life if that's what he was into yep i mean you could be a

06:01:11.160 find someone attractive and want to be a fucking simp and not they still not view them as a 10.

06:01:18.600 you should do a panel of only fans consumers not not girls one day could be interesting could be

06:01:23.000 interesting um oh we got a chat here from jay butler we have let me see oh we have two um

06:01:29.400 four eyes over here thinking she's a 10 looking okay come on i'm not gonna say that looking like

06:01:33.960 a cheap escort with her jelly rolls around her stomach flopping all over the studio genital

06:01:39.080 herpes has ruined your brain and metabolism based god damn you are totally yeah yeah

06:01:47.800 be nice guys be nice all right bender the offender it's going to give me an eating disorder sartain has

06:01:52.200 a good example of the woman needing to be more attracted to the guy eva mendez said she never

06:01:57.400 wanted kids then she met ryan gosling she then said i want his babies no word it's not okay it

06:02:04.920 just takes the right guy i guess and then you're like yep i will get married i'll do everything word

06:02:09.400 okay let me finish on my notes here we have okay we did that we have what do we have from sophia oh

06:02:16.520 we did the name 10 books um oh i was quite i was curious um what's everybody's type what kind

06:02:24.440 of guys do you like you already know tall nerdy dudes okay i like my guy same yeah actually here

06:02:33.720 let me black cock wait actually uh well i would say i actually do have a preference for black guys

06:02:40.760 okay that's fine um but i also have a type that's like the skinny white boy with painted nails long

06:02:45.480 hair tattoos emo boys it's either one or the other it's either jack slayer or like a machine gun kelly

06:02:51.080 yeah yeah i have a soft spot for emo boys for sure emo boys yeah there's something about them

06:02:57.960 uh so for the pre-show notes both uh sophia and you you said that you kind of answered it together

06:03:05.080 you said you're semi-liberal but also traditional

06:03:07.720 um um oh me you guys answered that together though so i don't know who that um like cook and

06:03:16.520 clean traditional you mean like for a woman well do you okay i'll ask you both individually do you

06:03:22.280 consider yourself a traditional woman uh no sophia what about you

06:03:27.720 um no you said semi-liberal also traditional perhaps maybe traditional in some ways but i have

06:03:36.200 my like values like i still like feel the way i feel about certain i still feel the way i feel about

06:03:42.360 certain things like like what i don't know um i guess how i grew up i um i was taught a certain way

06:03:55.080 and as i grew older i was i guess introduced but like i learned different ways to look at things so

06:04:02.280 it makes i'm very open-minded that's why i can't really specify like pick one thing yeah i i think

06:04:08.680 personally like when i am in relationships i like take just automatically take on kind of like the

06:04:14.120 caregiver kind of thing like when i really love someone and care for someone i want to like do that

06:04:19.080 kind of stuff for them but i wouldn't say like oh i'm gonna stay home all day and i have nothing

06:04:23.480 against nothing against women who do that i think it's amazing i think you know um but i personally

06:04:29.240 i just wouldn't you know i i still want to work i still want to you know i but i would also still

06:04:33.560 want to take care of the person that i'm with okay uh you guys also wrote here you wanted to talk

06:04:39.320 about dating bums and brokies that live off of you maybe you guys have some stories there um you but

06:04:45.240 you also said we don't think a man should be a provider fully we like to go half and half and then

06:04:50.360 you also said i think men lie too much about money nowadays i don't know which one of you that was

06:04:54.280 but anything there um yeah so i think i mean i don't know about sophia i've personally personally

06:05:02.680 dated people or dated um men who made a lot less money than me and who i had to not financially

06:05:10.200 support but you know paid for all the dates and stuff um i don't i don't think just because of that

06:05:17.640 i shouldn't be with someone um but you know i don't i also do really really like when guys um

06:05:25.080 you know pay for dates and make effort to go out of the way to like do stuff like that yeah

06:05:29.880 yeah i for me i i met this guy at the time he wasn't i guess broke or unemployed but he ended up

06:05:38.920 getting unemployed and i basically held him down and he was unemployed for like a couple months and

06:05:43.880 he had like some issues too and he broke his phone and i gave him my second one and he lived rent-free

06:05:48.680 in my apartment and i started paying everything and it got it got to the point where like i felt like

06:05:54.680 i was um i guess in a way the man in the relationship like providing for him and uh yeah that's not for me

06:06:03.800 i like to be taken care of i feel like there's things that i do um for him for the man that you

06:06:12.680 know like i'm very nurturing i i feel like i'll be emotionally uh supportive and comforting and i feel

06:06:21.480 like i want to be financially taken care of too yeah it has to be a good balance of you're 21 right

06:06:27.240 you're 21 right yes um the relate the one you said you were in a one-year relationship yes how old

06:06:36.760 was he he was two years older than me so now he's 23 and i mean you're you do only fans and stuff and

06:06:43.560 i know a lot of women on only fans can be you know very successful make a lot of money um do you think

06:06:48.920 men within your age cohort are as capable i mean i don't know if you're willing to share how much money

06:06:54.520 you make um but uh you said you wanted to be provided for and take taken care of i do think

06:07:01.960 it's going to be a challenge for most men in your age cohort uh and that's exactly why i'm single

06:07:07.320 and that's exactly why i'm taking care of myself are you going to have to perhaps

06:07:11.720 take another look at that preference of yours to be taken care of because

06:07:15.720 i mean i assume you're used to a certain lifestyle given that i i'm assuming that you're

06:07:19.800 successful with your only fans correct yes you do fairly well yes um i assume you're

06:07:25.240 making five figures a month at least yes mid five figures i don't know i don't want to get into it

06:07:31.400 but yeah i make i'm comfortable well i mean you're gonna i think one thing you're gonna run into is

06:07:38.120 there's not a lot of men who are going to be able to match you financially yeah given your success

06:07:43.800 because i it's i mean some of these only fans girl can make make a lot of money yeah you know maybe

06:07:49.000 50 000 maybe you're making 50 000 a month very few men are making that much money yeah doesn't mean

06:07:54.120 there's not men out there yeah but that's the thing i he can make less than me but still make

06:07:59.560 the effort you know put the effort in like if we go if you want to take me out to dinner like

06:08:03.880 i don't always have to just because i make more money that means that he's gonna be like okay you

06:08:07.720 handle everything no like here i work for my money and i want to still take care of you

06:08:14.840 even though i know you have more than me oh we have a great clip on this nick i think we have

06:08:19.560 it it's the one that auto played uh it's the tick tock video where it's the guy interviewing the

06:08:26.520 couple and this is super related to this can you try to find it nick i think i have it pulled up if

06:08:32.760 i don't i'll help you find it you just want a guy that spoils you once in a while yeah yeah i don't i

06:08:38.440 mean i guess when i say i want to be financially taken care of i'm talking about like my husband

06:08:43.480 but like if i was dating somebody and i wouldn't expect them to pay for my rent if i was dating

06:08:48.360 them but so we're gonna i was married to them i would love to live in the same house this is

06:08:51.480 this is interesting to me i want your guys's reaction to this go ahead nick how much money is

06:08:56.760 in your guys bank account i got like 1200 like 70k yeah 70k what do you mean 70k what do you mean

06:09:06.360 my dad gave it to me you made me pay for all this and you got 70k you're my boyfriend why wouldn't

06:09:11.240 you pay for my things well i mean if you got 70k i mean you should be paying for this yeah but usually

06:09:15.560 the guy's supposed to pay for the things this is a serious problem like i'm not even kidding i paid

06:09:19.560 what are you getting mad at me for that was 400 you're supposed to pay for my

06:09:23.000 shit but you got 70k you're my boyfriend you're supposed to pay for my shit yo dude this is actually

06:09:27.800 it's not my fault you're broke how is that my fault we're done then what do you mean we're done

06:09:31.880 okay so in in the interest of just being uh transparent aaron whispered this under her breath

06:09:43.560 i'm fairly confident that's staged however it can't it could illustrate something that could

06:09:50.280 actually happen in actuality where a woman who despite significant savings she might still want

06:09:59.000 a boyfriend to fall into this provider role even if he doesn't have the level of savings that she

06:10:04.760 has and i've i've encountered this for example i remember once i was on the dating app i i um and

06:10:10.520 this was when i was much younger i matched with an attorney and given how much money i was making at

06:10:16.120 that point it was almost certain that given that she was attorney she was making more money than me

06:10:21.080 and i remember in her profile in my conversations with her uh she was like well even though i'm successful i

06:10:27.000 still want a guy to pay for all my you know pay for dinners pay for x etc be a provider um and i

06:10:35.080 so i suppose that's your prerogative but uh if you're a high earner as a woman it occurs to me that

06:10:41.560 you can probably fall into a more egalitarian approach men want traditional gender roles except

06:10:49.320 when it comes to stuff like this then all of a sudden they want egalitarianism they're the biggest

06:10:53.880 progressives in the world they want her to be foot in the bill and all that stuff which i tell i i'm

06:10:58.360 all for but i feel like if you want the traditional gender roles and stuff like that you want all the

06:11:02.760 benefits but none of the responsibilities and it's going to include that i mean you can always reverse

06:11:07.320 that too women and i think it typically tends to be i would argue men are much more willing to fall

06:11:14.040 into their traditional gender roles even with women who are non-traditional than there are men who

06:11:19.160 want to reject their sort of traditional gender roles and still expect women to be traditional

06:11:26.600 yeah but nothing's stopping them they can start bucking those roles any day that they want

06:11:31.000 right but it does occur to me that for example and to bring this almost full circle all the women here

06:11:38.280 were like it should be cool to like send your boyfriend a photo of you fucking another guy

06:11:45.080 but i also want him to pay for my dinner these are your expectations i don't expect them to pay

06:11:51.800 for everything or even for it to be like 50 50 i think but you were arguing that it should be cool to

06:11:57.080 send your boyfriend a video she was arguing that some guys would find it hot not that you should do

06:12:01.960 that yeah yeah i don't think any of us well and i don't even think there's anything wrong if they

06:12:06.440 dislike that i was just saying that yes some of them do how how many guys i'm not i'm not arguing i

06:12:11.880 agree with you so that some of them find it hot we were arguing that with most yeah i still think

06:12:17.560 most and i still think most guys would i honestly don't think most guys would be comfortable with

06:12:24.040 the woman paying for like most dinners and stuff like that you want to talk about like male fragility

06:12:29.080 and insecurity i think it would be on oh that'd be fucking gangster dude i don't think i think you're

06:12:35.240 the exception there i think most guys want to feel like they're the provider and honestly like finances

06:12:39.960 would be a large insecurity if they felt like my girlfriend pays for all of my shit i can't even

06:12:44.520 say i pay for my own rent no but if it like it depends on the framing of it but like if your

06:12:48.520 girlfriend was like a super simp and she was like she was like trying to do all this shit then

06:12:54.120 that i think that still puts you that's that's like super gangster bruv yeah and then you're

06:13:01.960 over here laughing when she's like simping is is king shit basically but then you're talking about

06:13:06.680 like what most guys oh it's cool for girls to simp i think it's good for girls to simp no but

06:13:11.240 she's saying it's like when men simp for her it's king shit basically it's what it's king

06:13:17.080 shit for guys to simp for women which you disagree with obviously you don't think oh i absolutely

06:13:22.040 disagree that it's king shit yeah and i'm saying that this you think it's delusional for her to

06:13:26.200 say that i think it's delusional for you to be like god it's so base when a woman pays for all

06:13:30.120 the stuff for a guy it's like most men won't be comfortable with that it's totally different though

06:13:34.200 there's novelty sure it's rare but it it's got to be within the frame of like

06:13:40.520 she she's like doing it she's doing it because she's like really fucking wants you

06:13:50.280 i think most guys would still feel uncomfortable because they view it as a feminine is this an l

06:13:54.600 for me go ahead go ahead so i was in a the the year relationship that i was talking about was with

06:14:00.760 somebody that spencer can you grab me another water please thank you man he was basically like

06:14:05.720 living off me and that's the reason why i now value like because before i i didn't care i was like oh

06:14:12.360 i'm making a lot of this money i i love you i want to take care of you i want to help you get back on

06:14:16.760 your feet so we could like do it together and then i ended up just getting cheated on yeah and lied to

06:14:22.280 after basically simping for a man and that's that that's what i got and i that's why i have my values

06:14:29.720 now and that's why i feel like a man should take care of me not like everything but he should do

06:14:35.560 something and that's why i feel the way that i feel it's personal you know experience i guess i feel

06:14:41.480 like if there was a female attorney who went on a red pill podcast and was like hell yeah i love

06:14:47.160 girl bossing it up i have my attorney job i love being independent i don't need a man but if i had a

06:14:51.880 man i'd pay for all his stuff naturally because i make more i think they would be like see this is how

06:14:56.840 feminism has ruined women and men because now women think they can take on these roles that's

06:15:01.160 for a man to do they would actually be discouraging her from doing that yeah and they would say no

06:15:05.560 you're falling out like you're not bucking the line with these traditional gender roles so they're

06:15:09.800 on it spoiling my man's especially if i know i make more money than him i'm like you keep your money

06:15:13.880 you don't have a lot of it let me let me take care of it but then i also like the opposite but it just

06:15:18.840 i guess it depends how it's framed like if the guy is is like a leech and the girl's paying for

06:15:24.760 everything that's obviously a bad frame to be in but like if the girl's like so into you that she's

06:15:31.800 like i will i want you so bad i will simp for you that's when you win i think that i think a

06:15:38.760 man would feel completely emasculated to have to say like yeah i let her pay for everything

06:15:44.040 you don't think most dudes would be like bro what you let your girl pay for everything i make her no

06:15:48.440 i'm just kidding see that would be honestly the only alpha move is that she has to do it i don't

06:15:53.400 let her do anything else anything other than that being like yeah i let her pay for everything

06:15:57.800 thing most men would be like you should start no and again like this is this is i think a scenario

06:16:02.040 that would be very rare to actually encounter uh for me personally like i'm like this is not like

06:16:09.160 the typical relationship dynamic that i would have but if a girl came along and is like brian i'm a

06:16:14.520 fucking fin dom

06:16:19.240 i bankrupt me brian yeah no i wouldn't i wouldn't do that i wouldn't do that but uh bro you you want

06:16:26.040 you want to just give me an allowance okay well actually no no no i i i i i'm walking it back

06:16:33.880 you want to be a sugar baby you want to be a sugar baby here i don't like that framing i

06:16:38.680 i just you know you like you want it but you don't like how it sounds hold up that's it hold

06:16:45.800 up there's a there's a good way to frame this here right it's a framing issue it's just an

06:16:50.440 advertising issue you gotta figure out how to sell it i want a billionaire heiress to be so enamored

06:16:57.800 so enamored that she's like brian

06:17:03.160 i'm just gonna give you ten thousand dollars every time i see you that's sugar mama with more

06:17:07.240 honestly if they're a billionaire that's actually literally nothing okay fine 100k that's a lot

06:17:12.760 you're worth it 100k too bad there's only like sofia you're a successful woman we should you know

06:17:19.160 you've had too much experience with the you know these these guys just paying you money you should

06:17:25.240 consider pursuing a new paradigm in dating i am prepared my allowance is um

06:17:32.040 um seven thousand dollars a month what if she wants you to go down on her like no i'm sorry

06:17:40.440 yeah yeah i can't do it that's amazing it's not happening it's not happening when she treats those

06:17:47.560 neck issues she gets you top of the line medical treatment you'll never have neck issues again

06:17:53.000 you just have to go down on her nope sorry god damn standing it's almost like it was never about

06:18:00.440 the neck issues i wonder if there is a price though where i would i would go down on a woman i think

06:18:08.200 everyone has a price so yeah i think everyone has a price and i don't think it's as high as what you

06:18:12.920 would say you're like one billion no way it's one billion it's lower no it's less than a billion

06:18:17.720 it's less than a million i'm is she clean yeah yeah see so it is okay so it is about that oh my

06:18:23.560 god like stds i mean like yeah yeah she's clean say she's like hygienic and um oh all right let's

06:18:33.240 negotiate oh my god 200 000 let's negotiate shit um she's a virgin uh under those circumstances i'd be

06:18:43.480 more i'd be more interested what if she has a labiaplasty is it going up again i it's not about

06:18:49.960 the i don't think that's the thing yeah no well you what you so are you saying i'd be more willing

06:18:57.240 to do it if she has a labia place no no i'm saying that you're probably you don't like labia

06:19:01.800 plastics clearly with blm right so if she had one would that make your price go up for going down on her

06:19:07.880 no no no i would i would probably enjoy it less though oh okay i would enjoy okay god damn it

06:19:17.800 no i said i don't i don't know but like what do you do with the labia because like obviously i got

06:19:21.560 mine chopped off and now everything is you did yes i brought you got a labia i am yes oh i thought

06:19:27.240 i've been waiting for this moment i've been waiting to have this debate okay walk we'll come

06:19:31.560 okay okay okay no we have to have it now we're six and a half hours in

06:19:35.480 brian we're almost at night dying wait wait hold on uh let me just check my notes here to make

06:19:42.360 sure i'm not missing anything from wait what were we talking about with sophia and

06:19:47.400 uh traditional are you prepared sophia to pay my allowance though seriously

06:19:51.240 she's already done that um i'm already done with that i can't okay i can't go back to that word

06:19:56.600 uh let's see okay so i think we got those okay we're going to tina we're going back to tina you

06:20:03.240 you want to talk okay we'll talk about that i have a few more things for you then we're going

06:20:06.280 to wrap um you had a labiaplasty i did yes and it's something that i was thinking of since before

06:20:12.760 i even had sex i had one labia that was way longer than the other it was actually causing me discomfort

06:20:18.440 and then um i just kind of brushed it off because it's like if someone's having sex with me they love

06:20:22.600 me they're not going to care about my long labia um but then i started in only fans and then i got

06:20:27.880 bothered by it because i have to keep hiding it and then like doing certain angles and stuff

06:20:31.960 and to make it look better but yeah so then i got it and now it's the sensitivity is better and i

06:20:37.880 feel more confident like i wouldn't be able to progress in my career if it wasn't for that

06:20:42.440 you got it for medical reasons and if it was like so long that was you you're saying that you had

06:20:49.160 discomfort you do and then even when you're like physical physical discomfort and then people are

06:20:54.360 sucking on your labia why do people do that why do people suck on the labia it's so disgusting

06:20:58.760 why wait why would that something i don't know they probably thought it was your click they

06:21:03.400 probably did but now that it's gone it's like my click gets all the love it's amazing oh

06:21:09.160 so that you actually had physical discomfort i do hear about some people

06:21:13.560 i mean i that's like a medical exception my underwear and stuff like that yeah like it can be

06:21:19.880 and then it would go all like weird molly molly over here has molly has now

06:21:27.800 but yeah and then i remember one of my videos got leaked and my flap it just it would be a weird

06:21:32.840 color as well like it looked like a deformed fucking mushroom that's literally what people

06:21:37.800 would slag me that on reddit being like what the fuck is that flap well i mean so i'll start off by

06:21:42.600 saying this i think um you know look there's there's certainly uh labia can be in different colors there

06:21:48.520 can be darkening of the labia uh there can be asymmetry for example one side is i think it

06:21:54.600 sounded like you had some asymmetry right one of the lips was bigger than the other uh i mean i don't

06:22:02.040 one there's this misconception that if a woman has had a lot of sexual partners uh that means that she

06:22:09.480 uh that somehow it can that's fake yeah yeah you can be a virgin and have like a massive outie so

06:22:19.400 there there's no truth to well if she's had fucked a bunch of dudes that that means no so there's there's

06:22:26.280 that um i do think it's unfortunate that you did receive nasty comments it is i've certainly heard

06:22:30.920 from a lot of women that they do receive some very uh nasty comments for their labia you'll hear terms like

06:22:36.600 uh beef curtains beef flaps uh do you think they get them from men or women they'll they'll get it

06:22:41.800 from men some women will even have experiences and women too though um women will do it too but

06:22:46.600 uh you know and i think men maybe because they think that it means the girls had a lot of sexual

06:22:53.080 partners that uh they think it's you know an indicator of promiscuity but deformity or something yeah but um

06:22:59.880 um uh i have heard from a lot of women that they they have heard nasty comments from men which i

06:23:07.160 think is wrong they've heard nasty comments from partners which is especially uh wrong because for

06:23:13.000 example like for example to make uh to use a more wholesome example um if whether you're a man or woman

06:23:19.480 if you for example if you make fun of somebody's laugh or makes fun of somebody's smile that's the best

06:23:26.520 way to ensure that they're not going to smile around you that they're not going to laugh around

06:23:30.280 you um and so i think it's you should certainly never uh like bully someone for their smile or their

06:23:37.720 laugh um because i think that i heard this thing once where it said if someone can't change something

06:23:43.160 in five seconds don't comment on it yeah that's a good you should if you want a behavior to continue

06:23:49.880 you should always compliment it so if like you make fun of someone's laugh like they're going to start

06:23:55.080 feeling insecure and they're not going to laugh around you and and but i mean so to that yes

06:24:00.920 absolutely i i don't think why and but i don't think men should be shamed for their penises i don't

06:24:07.720 think women should be shamed if they got giant pussy i'm a bit of a hypocrite i guess i don't know

06:24:15.160 but uh it's from years of trauma what is it you can just say it's from years of trauma yeah yeah

06:24:20.280 something like that you know it's you know it's interesting though a lot of women like think they

06:24:25.720 have like large labia but they actually have what i call a midi where it's actually uh it's not that

06:24:31.400 big like relax okay you're you're good you're fine i feel like mine was quite big though but i don't

06:24:36.440 i mean i'll do their own yeah not to solicit this here if you want for purely research reasons if you

06:24:42.200 want you could like show me a before and after after the show and i'll tell you i can tell you if you want

06:24:48.040 it okay i actually can do it okay show you can show me after the show yeah i've seen pussy before

06:24:53.800 it's all good yeah um i don't even see it as sexual it's kind of just like the before and after like

06:24:58.360 it's interesting to see like the magic that i'm also curious those videos are on youtube they have

06:25:03.160 videos of breast augmentations on youtube and people women showing their breasts before and after so i

06:25:07.160 will it's good for research i mean i will say that yes there are some women who like if they have an

06:25:12.440 personality there was like physical discomfort i suppose perhaps that might be medically indicated

06:25:19.480 for surgery even then i'm not sure because you know there's women you know anytime you do any sort

06:25:26.760 of surgery there's potential side effects infection you could lose some sense of it sounded like your

06:25:33.880 case actually this the stimulation or sensation got better i guess but um i think most of them are

06:25:42.840 though are done for cosmetic reasons it was and i'm against it yeah yeah but there was some discomfort

06:25:47.560 and i do hear it from a lot of girls as well like um that the long labias can cause discomfort so i'm a

06:25:53.400 fan of the long labias i love that though i like the long labias i feel like girls the bigger the better

06:25:58.440 but i if you can also change it why not you know what i'm curious i'm really curious about this because

06:26:03.960 there's world records for penis size where is the world record for labias where's like the woman with

06:26:11.320 like the biggest monster labia i'm curious i want to know good talk guys that was a good talk um last few

06:26:21.720 things here with tina then we're gonna wrap up thank you guys i know we've gone late here uh you said that

06:26:26.840 and i want to touch back up on this uh you end up sleeping through friend groups can you tell us a

06:26:33.320 bit about that yeah that just kind of happens um more times than often and i i try to to you know fix

06:26:40.120 that problem but it's just difficult like if you're all in the same friend group and if they have hot

06:26:44.040 friends it's just like what do you expect me not to fuck them like it's a bit weird i don't know it

06:26:50.360 it just happens what do you guys think of that girl boss it up baby yeah yeah seems pretty normal

06:26:56.920 to me yeah i don't know i feel like you shouldn't create friction in friend groups if you can avoid

06:27:02.760 it but boring i try i try but it just ends up happening small towns i guess um also what kind of

06:27:11.240 well i guess it depends if the relationship was serious but i was just gonna say what kind of friends

06:27:16.440 do those people have where it's like i would do that there's no bro code because the bros be

06:27:20.760 going behind their bros back and yeah so that's really a friend issue not a you issue exactly and

06:27:27.880 then so you you already told the story of you left a guy asleep in his hotel room to go hook up with

06:27:32.360 three other guys can you say that in your own words i already did what was the story she did yeah

06:27:38.520 i definitely did yeah okay so um wait so just uh quickly on the timeline you you already hooked up

06:27:46.520 with one guy and then you went to was it a threesome no i didn't hook up with the guy that

06:27:50.680 was asleep in my room he was boring me he was the one that was going oh but you were like on a date

06:27:54.520 with him kind of it wasn't even a date i just found him randomly in the lobby and i was like let's just

06:27:58.520 walk around and we were chatting for like four hours so god bless him he was really trying to talk

06:28:02.600 into the pussy and i did not give it to him he was yapping oh yeah yeah i don't know it wasn't

06:28:07.160 fine but it was something to um to kill some time i guess before so you're just for the real men came

06:28:11.880 in and gang banged me i love that i love about that um but so you said you went to go hook up with

06:28:19.000 three other guys so was it a it was a foursome um yeah yeah but it kind of happened in intervals so

06:28:25.800 it was the main guy and then his coach and manager came in but the main guy already finished by then

06:28:30.760 so then it was the coaching manager and he was just kind of looking watching and then uh then

06:28:35.960 they came on my face and then i gave him a kiss after yeah thank you modern romance yeah it was

06:28:42.200 exciting it was fun that's the thrill of my life so were you guys like having sex when they like walked

06:28:48.440 in i thought we just finished i don't even know i don't know what so then how did you get like how

06:28:54.440 did that happen with the other two people it just happened i guess i don't know

06:29:02.280 i'm just curious i'm gonna go super saiyan level two on okay um

06:29:08.040 i don't even i'm just gonna send the asteroid i can't even i'm sending the asteroid on that one

06:29:13.160 um you believe you said you around in friend groups you believe in open relationships because

06:29:19.080 people cheat regardless um uh you when you're in a relationship i tend to fantasize about threesomes

06:29:28.120 with either your ex or their ex yeah i do this sometimes and then even when we break up and

06:29:33.720 they get a new partner i fantasize about me them and their new partner yeah it's very weird and i

06:29:37.960 have dreams like vivid dreams and everything about my partner and their ex and like all this weird

06:29:43.000 shit like i definitely have a bit of cook in me yeah i don't know i think it's hot though i feel

06:29:48.200 like it's like oh let's do a three-way see who can suck his dick better kind of vibe and like who

06:29:52.360 will he lean towards it's kind of like i don't know i get it hello darkness my old friend i get that

06:30:00.440 mood yeah um you said commitment to one person is difficult yeah yeah it's scary

06:30:07.400 so that is that the case commitment to one person for you is difficult yeah in the future do you want

06:30:14.680 to like have that though i don't really see it honestly and like don't want to get married

06:30:19.400 relationship stuff as well i haven't tried that but i feel like if i'm gonna go for a

06:30:23.720 next relationship that would be the most suitable oh you're fine don't worry about it um

06:30:28.280 i think you can still cheat in an open relationship true though yeah you can but

06:30:34.600 it takes away kind of yeah i don't know it would be so stupid if you cheat and you're in an open

06:30:39.320 relationship yeah yeah well yeah would you ever want a guy to be committed to you

06:30:49.160 i don't know i guess okay all right to be fair it's like i'll allow both sides but like i have a bit of

06:30:55.160 the fantasy of my guy with other girls so like i wouldn't mind i don't sure i mean last thing

06:30:59.640 here you said hot take men are so easy easy easier than women dating in this generation is

06:31:04.840 pointless i'd rather just focus on bettering myself and my own goals real doomer honestly

06:31:09.960 men are so easy like you probably love those women only fans girls is the easiest but not

06:31:14.680 you should see the thirsty guys in my dms and like they're normal people i mean i don't disagree

06:31:18.680 with you yeah like i can't look at men the same way after starting an of and just hearing all the

06:31:24.520 different requests and just the ways that they live and then even the guys that you think would

06:31:30.280 have masculine energy like you know well i don't know just like kind of like famous guys doesn't

06:31:34.760 mean they really have to have masculine energy but even then they're so easy yeah yeah you just have

06:31:38.440 to say hey and pretend you want to yeah maybe you do want to but like yeah then they're they're

06:31:42.120 immediately into it into it like yeah you just have to say you'll them and then yeah you can't get them

06:31:48.520 i mean they're very easy that makes sense i i guess you know yeah yeah i don't disagree with

06:31:58.280 you like yeah is it easy to get laid as a woman yes

06:32:04.680 don't disagree women have getting sex on easy mode so sophia disagree i just don't have sex i haven't

06:32:14.840 had sex in so long that's the only thing i'm thinking about i'm like yeah it's easy but we

06:32:19.960 also i don't know stop the cap so long it feels like so long four months is long for me for me it's

06:32:29.720 long for me it is it's not it's like a medium long it's not i wouldn't say it's long i actually

06:32:35.960 enjoy i like sex so that's good all right she's celibate okay good times um i think let me just make

06:32:43.800 sure we're caught up on all the chats i'm pretty sure we are um madison's gonna do like a 10 minute

06:32:49.240 aftershove actually and it's it's already yeah yeah no it's all right it's been too late um let's

06:32:56.600 see oh let's shout out twitch really quick and then we're gonna oh what happened there um

06:33:06.760 well hey guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drops to follow drop us a prime sub if you have one

06:33:11.960 uh our format it's all scuffed so i can't see all of them but thank you guys for all the uh twitch

06:33:17.320 uh primes and subs really appreciate it guys um guys twitch.tv slash whatever drops to follow drops

06:33:22.760 the prime sub um on twitch i'm gonna raid somebody here after i do my outro um i think we're ready to

06:33:29.000 stay safe over there uh last question does body count matter no no no depends on the person

06:33:36.520 no no i don't know how to answer this to be honest okay do you object to men and we'll start

06:33:47.000 with you go around do you do you object to men caring about body count starting with you sophia go

06:33:54.200 ahead no i feel like people can care what care about whatever they want to care about you're entitled to

06:33:58.920 your own opinion but you just said body count shouldn't matter i mean for me it doesn't but i can't speak for

06:34:05.240 another person well do you think it's insecure um for men to care about body count or immature or

06:34:14.760 something no i think men can care about whatever they like i'm just very open-minded okay no as long

06:34:22.600 as they hold themselves to the same standard i think it's fine yeah what do you mean if they want

06:34:27.320 a partner with a low body count i think they should practice what they preach and they should not have a

06:34:30.840 low body count they should have a low body count themselves i i disagree with you but i'll get back

06:34:35.720 to that um i yeah i agree with what they were saying just like if you are gonna have like a problem with

06:34:42.040 it then like obviously yours should be low as well because double standard but okay yeah everyone can

06:34:47.320 do whatever the hell they want um same yeah i agree with aaron well if you can put it into your own words

06:34:58.120 what you said same what yeah no i think um what is it everybody's entitled to whatever standards they

06:35:04.440 want and that they like i do think that if you're somehow placing like an uneven standard and just

06:35:09.800 believing that you should be able to be promiscuous while the other person has to be

06:35:13.240 basically celibate um you're setting yourself up for failure um you're putting like an uneven burden

06:35:19.560 by the start of the relationship so it's gonna be a bad foundation um you should just try to be

06:35:25.160 consistent with you know your beliefs on body count okay what about you yeah i just think it's

06:35:31.320 unrealistic to expect someone to have a low body count or expect them or want them to have a low

06:35:37.320 body count if you have a high body count or whatever your body count is i think it's

06:35:42.200 immature to think that way because um it's just a double standard i've i've response to this but i'm

06:35:48.120 letting all the girls answer go ahead yeah i think it's a little immature i don't think it matters as

06:35:51.800 much as it does to be fair and it's just an awkward kind of thing to talk about molly you know

06:35:57.400 i i can't really say anything they they kind of have to have a high body count for me to feel

06:36:01.720 comfortable okay that's it manson i don't object okay uh before i give my actually do i give my

06:36:12.200 rebuttal first well first i'm just going to ask so some of you said you know body count doesn't

06:36:16.840 matter shouldn't matter uh what's your body count starting with madison over here oh my god eight

06:36:24.680 um i have over 100 bodies um it's less than 100 but more than more than 50 less than 100 do you

06:36:35.080 wait do you have a i do have a list you got a list yeah okay so is it like just name is it like

06:36:41.560 penis size is it like what's the i should add honestly details to be honest is it on your phone

06:36:45.800 it is on my phone can you get your phone oh you want to scroll just oh geez and some of the names

06:36:51.160 are like i don't remember his name what about you five i respectfully decline i thought body count

06:36:58.520 doesn't matter okay i have no idea but i know it's less than 50. okay i don't count is it more

06:37:05.400 than 40 you think more than 40. somewhere between 40 and 50. no somewhere between 30 and 50.

06:37:13.080 30 maybe okay not answering

06:37:17.560 i already told you guys earlier you did yeah multiply it by three oh my god i was waiting

06:37:22.600 for that that's for everybody by the way um wait do any of you else have a list by play no

06:37:27.480 what's your body count hold on to any of you i actually have a list in my notes

06:37:32.040 i keep in my notes i lock it but i don't what do you mean you lock it i lock it's a lot of notes

06:37:37.240 like nobody can see it unless you like you put it but is it just is it just like name name name

06:37:41.320 oh mine's just names but it's in order do you want to no no no okay tina well do us the honors

06:37:49.800 scroll it's not that bad okay no just just read read oh read read the list yes there's like 50 names on

06:37:57.000 there no and it's private and that's airing someone else no just first names no what what's

06:38:02.600 15 names no because if someone who that that she knows views it they could read her friends

06:38:07.240 yeah that's true don't tina you don't have to no here we'll leave it up to her yeah tina do you

06:38:12.760 want to do it i'll name a few of them or it's just the funny ones because there's there's one that's

06:38:17.240 like scorpio there's one a scorpio scorpio's friend oh wait question are there his name wait wait

06:38:23.160 before before you continue are there any like just nickname unnamed in there well yeah forget

06:38:29.160 his name okay so you said go ahead continue scorpio and scorpio's friend yeah the friend groups that

06:38:35.080 you okay and then there's one that has chlamydia in brackets oh my god yeah like he you caught yeah

06:38:43.000 it's good to keep track of your body count because then you can kind of figure out kind of where the

06:38:46.040 community interesting how that works out um german guy in dubai cool um guinsey and another guy i think

06:38:59.160 keep going footballer guy in greece two footballers in france

06:39:06.840 oh yeah yeah i think that's kind of funny funny ones somebody gave you wait a guy gave you chlamydia

06:39:14.920 yeah that's disgusting it happens have you never had an sdi i think i think it's normal i've had

06:39:21.640 chlamydia you're not good times um yeah it's easy and it was from my boyfriend so it wasn't a random

06:39:26.040 hookup so wait how did he get it then cheated on me oh no did you break up with him yeah

06:39:37.560 out you go okay sorry sorry

06:39:39.080 argentina what's up um keep going is there more there wasn't any other interesting oh that's it

06:39:46.440 okay cool yeah like they just have names but so our last topic really just a couple of you said well

06:39:51.800 you know if you're a guy who has a high body count you have no business dating uh or wanting to date

06:40:01.080 a woman who has a low body count yep yep you can want whatever you want but it's just not practical

06:40:06.920 it's immature yeah it makes you a what a massive hypocrite in my opinion i don't think so actually

06:40:12.680 i don't think it makes you a hypocrite well here's why in order to desire a trait in a partner need you

06:40:20.840 also possess said trait not necessarily but when it's within your control not checkmate i actually think

06:40:30.200 through my arguments if it's something that's within your control like the body count then no i

06:40:34.360 don't think that that's something that you can just say oh well we can have differences in the

06:40:38.600 traits that we like no come on that's something within your purview well it's not just only in

06:40:42.840 wait but wait it's not only in your purview but it's also the arguments or the reason why people

06:40:46.600 usually say they want a low body count is a moralistic reason oh i don't want a hoe who

06:40:51.160 sleeps around etc etc but then you are acting like a hoe sleeping around so it's your inconsistent

06:40:57.000 behavior yeah another example of somebody who wants all of the benefits but none of the

06:41:01.160 responsibilities so you want somebody who has a low body count but you don't want to have to

06:41:04.840 actually practice that yourself and most women with low body counts are not going to be attracted

06:41:08.920 to men with high body counts anyway not necessarily but i can tackle this from a couple different levels

06:41:13.240 let me preface this by saying i don't think promiscuity is good in men either uh however i don't think that

06:41:19.560 it is hypocritical if you're a guy and typically it's men who have a preference for women with low body

06:41:26.920 count i would say but i don't think it's hypocritical if you have a 10 20 30 40 body count as a guy to

06:41:35.240 desire a woman with a low body count because that's just an attraction trigger in men is that how you

06:41:41.160 rationalize you having like a higher body count no that's not what i'm saying but it's it's perfectly

06:41:51.400 it's an first off it's an acceptable preference and i don't think it makes you a hypocrite

06:41:55.320 so you can say that but i think i think if you ask most people and you're asking me i think it

06:42:00.760 certainly does because it's not like something like i'm short but i want a tall guy oh that's

06:42:05.000 hypocritical of you because you can't control your height right but if it's body count yeah well

06:42:09.880 then you're so say if a girl had a really high body count and she doesn't want a man with a high

06:42:15.000 body count is that is that the same thing or is it different because she's a woman i'm basically

06:42:20.840 flipping well i would argue i would argue that there is a bit of a differential between men and

06:42:26.040 women there and i think huh why why i would say most women generally speaking tend to care less

06:42:33.720 about a man's body count than we're talking about a woman who does care even though she has a high

06:42:39.480 body count if a woman has previously slept with a hundred men and she wants to date a virgin

06:42:44.760 that's 100 her prerogative i don't have an issue with it and i don't think it makes her a hypocrite

06:42:51.480 now do i think most women who have slept with a hundred men would they would they prefer to date

06:42:58.120 a man who's a virgin i don't think so i personally would not want to be lectured about my body count

06:43:03.320 by somebody who themselves has a high body count if they were telling me aaron how dare you have slept

06:43:09.160 with like this many number of people and i'm like you have a body count of 50 what the

06:43:13.160 fuck are you talking about well yeah i would i would not want to hear it yeah your your argument

06:43:17.640 is um basically well i haven't i haven't fully made my argument yet but go ahead my understanding

06:43:22.680 is like oh no your argument is like oh no that's just what they're attracted to but at least from

06:43:27.080 what i've noticed whenever guys talk about body count in general there is a moralistic reason attached

06:43:32.040 so it's not just a simple oh i'm just attracted to this that's how i'd be um it's no i think that type

06:43:37.080 of behavior is bad but when i do it that type of behavior is suddenly okay which i don't think

06:43:41.880 is consistent morally well i mean okay so to further expand on my point of in order to desire

06:43:49.560 a trait in a partner need you also possess said trait i think we can all well i think we could

06:43:57.800 all agree the answer to that is no you need not possess a trait again in order to desire for example

06:44:03.800 for example and i i know you went to the tall thing and that's something that i've said before

06:44:09.560 however there's much better examples for example a woman who wants i often hear women say they like

06:44:16.760 men who can make them laugh who are funny need a woman be funny herself to desire that in a partner

06:44:24.920 and does it make her hypocritical if she's not funny to find funny men attractive i don't think so

06:44:31.720 i don't think she's hypocritical if she wants a guy who's funny but she is not funny herself i feel like

06:44:38.520 that's one of those things that it's i guess you could argue it's a it's within your control to be

06:44:42.360 funny or not but humor is one of those things that kind of like comes to you or it doesn't i don't

06:44:47.000 think you can really teach humor so it's another one of those things that it may as well be an innate

06:44:50.600 character how about this how about this um and i can give a ton of other examples here a woman who

06:44:57.400 wants a high who's attracted to high status men but she's not high status herself i'm sure you could

06:45:04.120 agree that a lot of one women would absolutely love to be in a relationship with a professional

06:45:09.560 athlete a muse a professional a musician an actor a lot of women have celebrity crushes for example

06:45:16.120 i'm sure they would uh you know do quite a bit to actually secure these men as partners um whether

06:45:22.520 they can or not that's a different question um are they hypocritical for desiring to date

06:45:27.560 an exceptionally attractive or uh high status man despite their lack of status does it make

06:45:35.960 them hypocrites the problem is none of these are moralistic reasons so if a person was like hey i

06:45:41.080 want to know but i'm not arguing at it on that level i'm i'm simply arguing in order to desire a

06:45:46.840 trait in a person need you possess that trait and i think the answer is no no but the problem is that

06:45:53.240 most people or most men who want a low body count are not saying it simply on the basis of oh i just

06:45:58.760 happen to be attracted they always assign it with a moralistic reason that that goes a whole promiscuous

06:46:04.120 and that's bad for society but i'm not that's to me that's totally irrelevant to me that's totally

06:46:08.280 irrelevant but it's not totally irrelevant no because if we're looking at if we're looking if we're

06:46:13.640 looking at the traits that people why does it matter what do you mean then why does body count matter

06:46:18.120 what because you're saying like there's a whole bunch of reasons but why is it why does it matter

06:46:23.640 well there's a whole bunch of reasons why it might matter what's one okay well i mean there's studies

06:46:30.080 that have come out that for examples the more uh premarital sexual part i don't think anyone is

06:46:35.320 basing their that preference off a study okay brian don't be delusional hold on there are studies that

06:46:41.880 show that there's a greater greater likelihood of infidelity there's a greater likelihood of reporting

06:46:48.120 relationship dissatisfaction there's a greater likelihood of a breakup of a relationship or

06:46:52.680 of a marriage the more premarital sexual partners you've had there's also an evo psych by a lot uh

06:46:58.440 evolutionary psychology biological reason when it comes to paternity uncertainty a woman who's more

06:47:04.520 and this is this is almost something that's innate in men a woman who's promiscuous if she's uh

06:47:11.320 sleeps with a lot of men uh there's a chance for example that she might the the kid might not be yours

06:47:17.000 for example cuckoldry true cuckoldry when you might accidentally raise another man's child right

06:47:24.280 and so any woman who gives birth to someone you know for a fact that that's your that is your

06:47:29.480 biological child but as a man there you can't 100 be certain it's it's 2024 brian you can take that

06:47:36.920 doesn't undo yes you can do dna tests which came out in the 80s that doesn't undo hundreds of thousands

06:47:42.040 of years of evolution that have made men more invested in ensuring paternity yeah i think there's

06:47:50.360 an evo psych reason for that yeah and there's you could argue that which is why men care more about

06:47:55.160 body count they care more about promiscuity and they're they care much more about uh virginity for

06:47:59.960 example there are strong evo psych reasons for women to also want men for low with low body count so

06:48:04.680 there be less scds for parental uh what's it called for parental resources maybe for parental

06:48:10.760 investment yes so yes i agree but i'm not in favor i'm not in favor like the you know if there's

06:48:16.760 certain guys in in the uh in the space that advocate that you should just try to run through a bunch of

06:48:22.760 girls i don't i don't advocate for that yeah but the problem is if somebody has this what's that you

06:48:27.560 should space it out the problem is if you have the mentality of like oh you know i value these

06:48:35.400 things for like all these different reasons um that's why i want to find a woman with low body

06:48:40.440 count chances are she's also going to have those same values right for her own reasons for wanting

06:48:46.040 to have like parental security etc etc so if you have that high body count and you're still looking

06:48:51.080 for a woman with like low body count chances are she's not going to be attracted to you so why is it

06:48:55.720 only wrong why is it it's it seems it's like the case that it's only wrong if a man wants a trait

06:49:01.400 that he doesn't possess but when women want a guy who's funny but she's not funny she hold on let me

06:49:06.440 just hold on let me just finish he doesn't have to know everything that he wants hold on hold on

06:49:11.720 but a woman wants okay a guy a woman wants a guy who's funny she's not funny a woman wants a guy who's

06:49:17.320 rich but she's broke a woman wants a guy who's a professional athlete she's not professional

06:49:22.200 athlete a woman wants a guy who's high status she has no status a woman wants a guy who's confident

06:49:27.320 she's not confident a woman wants a guy who's charismatic she's not charismatic it's a woman

06:49:32.200 wants a guy who's chivalrous she's not chivalrous i mean we're describing yin and yang others you're

06:49:37.800 describing examples of to me pure hypocrisy wait no but for me no these are you're trying to like

06:49:44.920 snake your way out of like you know that someone might disagree with you on this one actually talk to

06:49:50.120 the majority of women yeah the majority of women are not going to put up being lectured by a guy

06:49:54.200 with a high body count about their body count and no but here's the thing i don't here's here's the

06:49:59.080 thing if a woman doesn't want to be with a guy with a high body count i don't object to that at all

06:50:05.080 i'm not arguing that like women shouldn't care about that if you care about that that's 100 your

06:50:10.760 prerogative but my issue is is when you say and you shame men oh you have if you're a guy and you've

06:50:17.000 had a high body count and again i'm not an advocate of men racking up high body counts but if a guy

06:50:22.200 does have more sexual experience that he that should some that should preclude him from having

06:50:27.960 an interest in women with low body count i object to that because women because women all the time

06:50:34.920 desire traits in men that they do not possess themselves it's a moralistic purview attached to

06:50:40.360 it if a woman was like so what no let me finish my argument but so what pixie pixie so what if there

06:50:47.960 is a moralistic component i'll explain why so what it's totally irrelevant it's not it's totally

06:50:52.440 irrelevant let me explain i just outright dismiss your position i think you're not going to finish

06:50:56.760 the argument hitchin's hitchin's razor okay that well actually no that's sorry that's not

06:51:01.560 if a woman was saying hey i want a guy who is like you know calm and i think because like

06:51:07.880 that's what a good person is a good person is a calm person you know and then she's out there you

06:51:13.080 know throwing temper tantrums freaking out well then that would make her a giant hypocrite because

06:51:18.200 she is not upholding herself to the moral standard that she wants her partner to have so yes it does

06:51:23.480 matter when somebody is trying to uphold the moral standard that they cannot themselves concede to

06:51:27.560 what about a woman who's feminine and wants a masculine man is masculine is like is that a moral standard

06:51:33.000 no is being calm a moral standard well if the woman is arguing i want somebody calm or is that

06:51:39.880 a behavioral uh if the person is attaching moral purview to being calm then yeah they should be calm

06:51:45.960 themselves if they're saying it is a more of upright moral importance that my partner is a calm person

06:51:52.200 because a calm person is a good person i think i do think it's how do i how do i

06:51:57.640 i don't think it necessarily necessarily makes for a hypocrite really i think it would be more

06:52:06.760 conducive perhaps to a better relationship if they're both calm individuals i don't think in

06:52:11.880 any scenario uh being like a chaotic bitchy person or being a guy who's a like toxic asshole i don't

06:52:18.840 think that's conducive to a healthy relationship yeah the point i'm trying to get across is that if a

06:52:24.360 person is saying i want my partner to have x quality because x quality makes them a good person

06:52:29.480 and then they don't have that quality themselves they're being hypocritical morally yeah yeah

06:52:34.120 most of the things that you're describing tend to be proxies for other things so she you're like

06:52:38.200 a woman who herself is not a professional athlete wants to be with the man who's a professional

06:52:41.880 athlete that's makes for a hypocrite according to you if we use your logic yes it makes yes it

06:52:49.480 would make no i literally started this off by saying i believe it's a proxy for something else

06:52:53.800 so what she doesn't really want is that if a professional athlete didn't make much money in

06:52:57.400 the society guess what she wouldn't want that that she wouldn't be invested in dating somebody

06:53:01.720 who has that profession so it's almost like they have no attachment to the profession and what they

06:53:05.320 really want is wealth so she would probably date anybody who wants who is wealthy and at that point

06:53:10.040 if she's not wealthy herself or is not even trying to become wealthy i'd say yeah you're a hypocrite

06:53:14.600 also it's a long shot if you think you're going to marry outside of your economic class i mean

06:53:17.880 there's plenty of other reasons why a woman might want to date a professional athlete for

06:53:22.040 example they just love a football yeah no they basketball that's what it is well i would actually

06:53:28.120 argue typically professional athletes are demonstrating some sort of physicality they

06:53:32.520 probably have i would not all of them some so do models nfl linemen you know models well

06:53:38.440 i was going to say physique for example what do you mean well that's what i'm saying you're like

06:53:41.960 well they demonstrate some sort of physicality and i'm saying like so do models and bodybuilders

06:53:45.640 and at that point what you're not even talking about as a professional athlete you just want

06:53:48.520 somebody who's like physically physically attractive yeah of course but it don't it doesn't i don't

06:53:54.040 think it makes my argument boils down to this don't throw stones in glass houses and i think somebody

06:53:59.480 who obviously puts a lot of stake in a body count and judges other women for having high body counts

06:54:04.840 but they themselves have a high body count is throwing a stone in a glass house no it doesn't it

06:54:09.960 does not make you hypocritical agree to disagree it does not make you hypocritical if that's not

06:54:15.640 hypocritical to desire critical to you huh i said if that's not hypocritical then what is the

06:54:20.440 definition of hypocrisy how would you define hypocrisy it's it's defined by jesus christ you

06:54:27.240 literally said that a hypocrite is somebody who examines the crime of another man but refuses to

06:54:31.320 look at their own see we're talking about something different here if if you were to come out and say that

06:54:37.640 if you were to say it's bad to be promiscuous but you yourself are promiscuous that's hypocritical

06:54:49.160 however just having accrued a high body count let's say you've accrued a high body count

06:54:59.320 it doesn't make you hip hypocritical to desire and to want to date somebody

06:55:06.920 who has a low body count that doesn't make you hypocritical if you if your standard is if your

06:55:15.880 standard is that you're like for example perhaps you're shaming women who have a high body count

06:55:22.600 yet you have a high body count that might be hypocritical but wanting a partner like making

06:55:28.600 a dating related decision about who you want to partner up with does not make you hypocritical

06:55:34.040 yeah okay if you said like yeah but we were so perhaps we've been arguing it's just a different

06:55:39.960 thing here oh yeah i i think about i think the problem is that in most cases of men describing

06:55:45.960 low body count when you ask them why it's usually not just saying oh i'm just grade the woman yeah

06:55:50.760 most most of the time it's oh because she's a hoe and that's disgusting it's not just like oh that's

06:55:55.960 what i happened to be attracted to so i think that's why we're speaking past each other good time

06:56:01.560 because a preference is saying like i prefer blondes but i would date anybody versus what

06:56:06.040 you're saying which is i won't date blondes i have to date this other dyed-haired person like black i

06:56:11.480 only date people with black hair there's a difference okay so do you think let's say a guy who's got a

06:56:15.560 body count of 10 would you think it's hypocritical of him to want to date a woman who's a virgin who has

06:56:21.000 a body count of one two or three yep um a guy who has but you think so if he if he again it goes

06:56:28.200 back to so hold on no no no hold on hold on and i i'm sorry to cut you off pixie i just okay so

06:56:35.960 must what's what is the it's a relative concept what constitutes an objectively high body count

06:56:41.640 doesn't exist because it's always just going to be relevant relative to whatever the media body

06:56:45.480 count is at any time and i think double digits what is the body count range that you think someone

06:56:50.760 has to know brian you're the one who does this fucking bullshit math i don't do it because i

06:56:54.040 don't care about body counts i don't worry about it no but you're you're saying that a guy who has a

06:56:58.360 body count of 10 it would be hypocritical of him to want a woman to date a woman with a body count of

06:57:03.720 three you said virgin you started off with virgin no but yes i said virgin one two three okay okay

06:57:09.000 when it was so is it hypocritical i said do you think it's hypocritical for a guy who has a body count

06:57:13.560 of 10 to prefer to date a woman who has a body count of three yes because why it can't why would

06:57:21.000 that be hypocritical what what significance is he attaching to the body count that he is

06:57:24.920 actively seeking out women who have a body count of three or less we've already gone over this what

06:57:29.880 is the significance i already told you why body count it's obviously a moral no no it's obviously

06:57:34.840 a moral significance it could be it could be a totally self-serving let's say his only thing is

06:57:39.880 self-serving and hypocritical that's my argument what totally self-serving and hypocritical i don't

06:57:44.840 really follow the logic there but so you're suggesting that what people what your people

06:57:50.760 what people ought to do you can only pair up with somebody who has the exact same body count as you

06:57:56.680 is that what you're i think if you take it to the logical conclusion not the same you have to pair up

06:58:01.640 with somebody who has the exact same not the same not the exact same really the same range

06:58:08.760 and that all of these ranges are going to be completely arbitrary because can you tell me what

06:58:12.120 an objectively high body count is i think when you once you start well it depends oh well it depends

06:58:18.520 because it's subjective it's not no it depends on age okay it depends on age because clearly like a

06:58:25.720 a woman who's like 18 is gonna okay so an 18 year old guy with a body count of 10 who wants an 18

06:58:31.000 year old girl with a body count of three what's his reason i don't object to that at all okay what's

06:58:35.640 his reason what's his reason yeah there's a whole bunch of reasons okay name one of them there's pair

06:58:40.520 bonding there's just the the ingrained at 18 he's fucked 10 people and he's expecting a woman who's his

06:58:48.360 who's the same age as him to have not yes absolutely an 18 year old could be pursuing a lot be

06:58:54.200 desirous of a long-term relationship okay there's the std risk for example the more sexual partners

06:58:59.080 you've had the greater uh likelihood of having an std that goes for him too sure yes times however many

06:59:06.200 more because he has a higher body count right but let's assume he doesn't have an std and he wants

06:59:10.120 to mitigate his risk by selecting a partner then why can't we assume that a woman with a high body

06:59:14.440 count doesn't have a have stis wait what because you're making it sound like you said it sounds like

06:59:19.960 all of these only apply to women because you were like we know that a woman with a higher body count

06:59:23.560 has a higher likelihood of having an sti but when you're talking about a man when you're talking

06:59:27.720 about it when you're talking about when you're talking about a man with a high body and if a

06:59:30.600 woman yes you're saying this guy doesn't have that if a woman doesn't want to date a guy because

06:59:35.400 she's trying who has a high body count because she wants to meter mitigate her scd risk that's

06:59:40.360 totally fine i don't know she's delusional what but would you say she's delusional for what for

06:59:46.280 wanting that for wanting that no i've already i've already stated tina said i want a guy who has a low

06:59:52.440 body count would you think that she was not hypocritical but delusional

06:59:58.840 um well i think she's delusional well again there are some gender differences here so for

07:00:05.800 example i'm saying there are no but for example a guy um if you have a high body count uh i do think

07:00:12.920 it is again the case that women give men a little bit more leeway on that front than the reverse

07:00:18.600 yeah but it's totally socially constructed yeah okay also about your but do you think

07:00:23.880 that she's delusional you didn't answer the question answer is she would she be delusional

07:00:27.640 for her saying no actually i'm sure she could actually i i no because i actually think it's

07:00:33.400 interesting i think uh um a man who actually might have a low body count it could indicate that for

07:00:39.800 example he struggles in the dating realm so it may very well be the case that he's more willing

07:00:43.640 we're at the point where we're pontificating upon what the low body count when a man signifies and

07:00:49.400 what it could be what it could be a proxy for or whatever but when it comes to women it's like oh

07:00:53.560 yeah for sure high body count definitely risks with promiscuity and higher sci risk like you

07:00:57.320 know for sure like what it could be associated with i i don't object to women have holding the

07:01:01.960 exact same standards neither do i what are we

07:01:05.560 yeah okay we should wrap soon by the way about your argument about like a high body count more

07:01:12.920 likely to have stis more likely to get pregnant by somebody else like i don't think i don't think

07:01:17.400 that that counts because it only takes one person yeah you could literally be a virgin and get and

07:01:22.680 if anything as far as i know porn stars actually have lower instances of stis because they get

07:01:27.400 checked regularly nope fake news every two weeks that's fake news they get checked more often than the

07:01:32.760 average person ever here's here's the secret sauce here's the secret sauce they don't check

07:01:37.640 for hpv and herpes and on a long enough timeline everybody has that everybody has no everybody has

07:01:43.320 hpv if you talk to any physician they will tell you that you're not even bother vaccinating people

07:01:47.400 for hpv over the age of 25 because they assume that you have it this is like the biggest

07:01:51.960 fucking cope about um in in the adult entertainment industry they don't test for herpes and hpv

07:02:01.560 nope because they're very common yeah yeah in the adult entertainment industry no it's common in

07:02:07.000 the general population that's why i just told you if you talk to a general physician i was a biology

07:02:12.360 major brian if you speak to a general physician about getting vaccinated about hp at for hpv over

07:02:18.120 the age of 25 they won't do it because they assume you already have it at over the age of 25

07:02:22.280 that's how common it is yep herpes i think is well i mean there's i don't know we don't have to have

07:02:27.080 a debate over her i would argue herpes is probably there's herpes simplex and there's genital herpes

07:02:31.720 but you're talking about just herpes simple no no no i'm talking about genital herpes they don't

07:02:37.000 test for that do they test for general herpes if you're an adult sir no they don't and if they did

07:02:41.000 the adult entered entertainment industry would absolutely crumble if it precluded people who had

07:02:47.000 genital herpes we had a girl we had a girl on the show who said that she was and it's crazy to me that

07:02:54.200 they don't do this that she's she got herpes they don't test for it she doesn't i i if i recall

07:03:01.480 she does not disclose to her partners that she has herpes but correct me if i'm wrong you can only

07:03:08.600 get herpes from someone if they're having a flare up yes that is true and i've actually worked with

07:03:13.160 that girl multiple times i've worked with male porn stars didn't you come with her on the show yeah

07:03:16.840 yeah i've worked with male porn stars who like have herpes but don't have an outbreak and you you can

07:03:21.560 kiss them as long as you don't touch a herpes sore when you said didn't you come with her i

07:03:26.680 thought you meant a different way too so if they're diagnosed with herpes but they don't have

07:03:31.000 an outbreak it's kind of like a wart you know someone's a wart on their finger and you touch it

07:03:35.240 you're going to get you can be pre like pre-symptomatic or i don't know what the term is

07:03:40.440 but asymptomatic no but like it could be like the the tail end or like the i don't know what the

07:03:47.320 the tail end or the front end of an outbreak and it might not be perfectly

07:03:54.200 no that's very true on a long enough timeline in the porn industry my understanding is most

07:03:59.400 most women or most uh people in the industry are going to get herpes i joined the porn industry

07:04:06.280 knowing that um that was something that like i had made a major like took a major thought about and

07:04:14.120 it's really it's up to me and it's up to my scene partner to make sure that i am healthy and that i

07:04:20.840 am making sure that my scene partner is healthy before i you know touch them and have sex with them

07:04:27.320 i mean i don't know if this is too prying but do you have herpes no i do not actually i don't know

07:04:35.160 i don't know actually yeah to be fair okay i mean are you just arguing in favor of stds i'm a little

07:04:40.040 confused here no okay you were trying to make the case that you said points if they tested for herpes

07:04:46.440 that porn stars would have the highest rates of stis um that previously you're trying you're trying to

07:04:53.160 use the absence of evidence to prove your point and i'm using actual no you were you were trying to

07:04:57.480 argue that well the std rate amongst porn stars is actually very low but that's actually not true

07:05:02.600 it's more likely to be lower because they are tested more often than the general population no that's

07:05:07.320 excluding herpes it is true excluding herpes okay well uh herpes seems a lot worse than like

07:05:12.840 gonorrhea sorry when's the last time you got tested yeah yeah brian that's treatable when's the last

07:05:18.200 time you got tested brian you think herpes is worse than gonorrhea after all the shows okay

07:05:22.520 after all my shows i get tested okay you know i pair you know it's all right speaking of air one

07:05:27.480 time i sat on the chair and i had i had a little all right okay okay good talk all right guys we're

07:05:32.840 gonna let's wrap this up um we have one chat here from uh from geez we went long okay julian aaron

07:05:39.560 doesn't like hearing the truth so she cuts off and talks over brian to make his point invalid brian i

07:05:43.720 already told you the reasons why is it okay for women to have preferences but not men oh my god

07:05:48.040 this is literally the martin bailey where why is it okay for women to have preferences but not men i've

07:05:51.960 never said that it's not okay for men to have preferences you literally have preferences you said yes

07:05:55.880 you literally did i didn't i said it makes you a hypocrite if you have standards that could apply to you but

07:06:01.000 you choose not to and then expect them of other people that's been my argument the entire time

07:06:07.800 brian we're not getting into this please on the show it's like seven hours in

07:06:11.400 my head is pounding can we at least can you at least affirm my identity that i am right on this

07:06:19.400 position please no absolutely not i'm gonna come on to the next show please i would like you to

07:06:24.760 affirm my identity as the rightful person on this issue he's gonna keep us here if you don't charlie

07:06:31.320 kirk told me that endless affirmation is bad and leads to uh unaliving yourself so i could and i could

07:06:37.160 not do that in good conscience good talk all right guys we're gonna uh here let me uh get some oh actually

07:06:43.880 let me do the outro and then i'll do the host and then we're gonna wrap uh i know you i know we went

07:06:48.760 long guys i appreciate you guys uh sticking it sticking it sticking it to the uh and sorry guys

07:06:55.240 let me pull up the outro one moment por favor okay sorry guys um let's see

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Charlie Kirk DESTROYS Whatever Podcast？! Charlie Kirk vs. Feminists & E-Girls! ｜ Dating Talk #130

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