COPS CALLED! Entitled Strumpet REFUSES To Leave?! TRESPASSED AND KICKED OUT?! | Dating Talk #163
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7 hours and 10 minutes
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183.25656
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441
Summary
What's a slag? What does it mean and what does it have to do with the modern dating hellscape we live in? What are the criteria for being a Slag? Is it even a thing? How do we define it? And what are the worst things we can say about someone who self identifies as a SlAG? In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we discuss all of these questions and more.
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and without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your
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name age location and occupation go ahead hi guys my name is cindy zhang i am 24 years old i live in los
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angeles and i am a only fans model model entertainer all right welcome back cindy what about you my name
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sophia is bella i am 21 um from england so manchester and i am an only fans model massive slag
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massive slag uh what when you say massive slag i think that's a bit more of a like british uk term
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what for maybe educate the panel educate the viewers what what's a slag
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so like a promiscuous woman yeah a strumpet if you will a bike a strumpet nick pull up that by the way
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one of you guys sent me this apparently in some video game i don't know which i don't know which
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one this is you guys probably know they have a strumpet in the video game i'm repopularizing the
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term strumpet uh so you're a strumpet then um apparently yeah well strumpet i feel like strumpet
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is less offensive than slag i feel like slag it's an english one but it's pretty offensive even to like
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to call a girl a slag is pretty offensive but you self-identify as a slag yeah okay so what person like
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what criteria do you have to meet to be a slag a high body count high body count okay
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um should we do you want to share it off the bat just i'm good um but you do so you do have a high
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body count then i don't know well no but you you just defined yourself as a slag i think high body
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counts anything over two so yeah oh okay well okay um and you so you're from the uk you do of you're
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here with your boyfriend won't we have you introduce yourself brandon beavis known as bevo
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um i do tiktok i'm from manchester and i'm her slag so you're you're you're also you're her slag
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or her slag yeah okay dirty slag you're you're a slag dirty slag dirty slag age uh 23 23 okay how did
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you guys meet oh we met at an event and i see a slagginess and i thought bosh here we are
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getting them dms and getting the sheets love it is this uh is this how long have you guys been
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dating uh three months it feels like three years actually you know what i'll come back to the
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relationship stuff once we go around again but what about you oh my name is monet i'm 19 i'm from
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sacramento but and i'm a student at ucsb sac town okay yep what are you studying at ucsb film film and
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media studies and you're a sophomore junior a freshman oh freshman okay uh and so are you i'm
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assuming you're living in the dorms then is that correct unfortunately what about you my name is
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gracie moncada um i go to ucsb as well i'm studying sociology and i also live in well i live in the ft
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dorms over there in isla vista okay and i'm 18 age okay what do you what do you uh what's your major
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whatever fan donated two hundred dollars uh okay i fancy to shag that pink lady slag bloody hell
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all right uh sorry what are you studying thank you thank you whatever fan thank you whatever fan
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uh okay so sh all right what about you hi i'm alex i'm a first year at santa barbara city college
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and i'm from the bay area originally and i'm an interior design major interior design okay age
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19 okay and interior design i didn't know they taught that well they don't teach it at ucsb they
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teach it at santa barbara city college oh you go to cc yeah i go to cc okay um my mom's an interior
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designer back up in the bay so i see i'm doing it to help her with it well that's not already
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are you from norcal too where did you see you from bakersfield originally okay yeah okay so we
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got two norcal wait why that why that i'm from icelia so oh no oh my gosh okay yes yes yes the valley
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do you know about going hyphy you don't know about going hyphy i mean i feel like i've heard that term
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before i feel i feel like well it's a norcal thing but yeah it's like it was from like 20 years
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anyways okay uh what about you all right my name is cinderella i'm 19 years old i go to ucsb as a
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psych and brain science major and i'm from la i love your name thank you people be like telling
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me that like if my name is like short for something and i would lie to them saying cinderella when they
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were calling you i'm like looking up i'm like you're talking to me wait so that's your government
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name yes actually how do you how do you spell it s-i-n-d-e-r-e-l like s-i-n sin cinderella my
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friends call me sin for short do you also go by cinderel i go i could i go by like cinders cindy
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sin cinderella ella ella i don't really like it you don't like it yeah why's that i feel like it's
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too simple i feel like too simple oh you need to complicate it okay all right and sorry where
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you from again i'm from la la and what part um inglewood area inglewood okay cool what about
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you hello everyone my name is Giselle I'm born and raised in Santa Barbara and right now I'm a
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personal slash office assistant for a mechanic shop and then I'm also going to school for
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business and accounting did you say age oh 23 23 okay what's an office assistant for mechanics
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um what do you do well right now because it's such a small like um he's just starting off I mean he's
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been doing it for three years and it's a new business for him um I'm basically doing everything
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so like accounting making sure the finances are straight opening closing invoices and then just
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like his personal things like shopping walking his dogs did you really care Cindy wow scintillating
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conversation I wanted to know what about you what about you job you wanted to know oh because you've
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never had one I know I have had one I'm just curious what's an office job I've been doing
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only fans for too long yeah I kind of I'm kind of numb to it yeah I'm kind of numb to it all right
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what did I ask um my name is Michaela I am 24 years old um I help manage a small production company and
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then have a couple other like streams of income to help um and then what was the last one oh I
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currently live in Orange County but was from Visalia and I'm moving to Alabama so a lot of
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places what part like Tuscaloosa what part mobile no I'm moving to Birmingham Birmingham Alabama why
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are you moving to Alabama um my husband and I are trying to pay off our student loans really quickly
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um so we're like just seeking like low rent so we can really just throw all the money at
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the save on the cost of living yeah it's expensive here in California so okay cool uh guys so
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uh my Caucasian Andrew Wilson he will be joining us a little bit later on but uh something came up so
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he's going to call in probably in about two I think two hours uh he had an emergency so he will be
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joining us just a little bit later on in the stream so uh stay tuned for that we're going to go around
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the table once more what's everybody's current relationship status so are you single talking stage
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situationship relationship married polycule sex cold tarum whatever it may be if you're single
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what's your longest relationship or excuse me if you're single how long have you been single and
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what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you Cindy go ahead I am single and
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the longest relationship would be maybe like a few months I would say um I date around here and there
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I'll just say three months what about you um in an open relationship oh you guys are in an open
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relationship okay open all right how long have you two been dating three months three months yeah okay
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all right and you guys said you met at a party was it or an event an event a boxing event boxing event
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okay and let's see uh well I assume you're also in an open relationship with her yeah or it could be
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closed on your end no no so yeah no we just we love it it's it's both open we just love it all right
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so open relationship uh so what does that look like for you guys since you're in an open relationship
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just sex girl sharing friends she brings me friends I'll bring her friends parties you bring her male
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friends yeah wait so your male friends will yeah what's the term shag yeah yeah shag yeah a lot of
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shagging um yeah just love it okay um have you always been into like this open dynamic not really
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no until I met this like here and the whole new world opened up you know so yeah it's it's been
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amazing it's been the best three months of my life so yeah so have you uh what's your longest
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relationship my longest probably was three months before her okay I got used I got manipulated um
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just got shit I'm sorry about that um yeah and then I just thought listen it's got to change and
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I was very clattered off on TikTok and doing very well and I thought listen I want to live life so
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I met this one here and prior to uh meeting your current girlfriend never had like any sort of open
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dynamic no no always like monogamous yeah but it's just boring you live once in it so I'm just
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yeah so she kind of convinced you to make it open not really she just made me open my eyes and live
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life a bit you know and it's just again I don't want to live that boring life I don't want to have
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to get up at city o'clock in the morning and get home at city o'clock of the night for basic money I
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want to live life make money and do a lot of shagging so yeah why not well couldn't you do
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that but still have a monogamous relationship what's the point in that that's not fun what's
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the point of having one person it's just boring do you guys wear rubbers uh when we feel like it yeah
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well I mean so the one of the points of monogamy there's there's a few but uh do you want to beat my
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cockies as well that's kind of a out of pocket weird question no not really the point I was trying
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to make was is that like if you're having a lot of casual sex there's a tendency to be there's a
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greater likelihood of getting an std no well tested tested okay yeah so you test before you have sex
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with all your partners you test all of them yeah it's all planned it's all for the uh all for the spicy
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content so yeah it's all planned pre-ahead sorry go from there I'm catching on I'm catching on
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she knows the rules if you know Bevo she knows the rules well I knew but like I get it for content
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okay here I am what do you mean he said for content right yeah so this is on camera yeah you know yeah
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interactions you're having yeah okay all right yeah wait so you participate in her only fans
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yes do you get compensated she looks half near so you're the breadwinner yeah I make bread I still
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do well on tiktok no yeah I still make money I still make money I'm not I'm not just a broke bitch I'm
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not a slave you know what I mean but uh I still do well I still do five figures a month
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how much I do five figures a month still okay nice and that's just from like just from what kind of
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content you do on social media I do eating content eating content okay and I do nightclub appearances
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uh promotions and that's that's not including the sex work stuff no no no okay so I mean like
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since you're already making so much money I mean what's the incentive there to get involved in sex
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work more money more money but you said you're already making like five figures listen my money's
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never enough I could go I could go and spend it quite quickly so yeah it's um you're always chasing
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the money always but you're always chasing the money into a nine till five anyway so I don't know
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how that's relevant to be honest now when you guys sleep with other people are you doing it together
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or will you sleep with girl on your own you'll sleep with guy on your own together always together
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yeah is there any jealousy no ever that springs up in your relationship having fun the only
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boundaries that we wouldn't sleep with other people but ourselves and so I mean you're a successful
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guy you've got a pretty big following on social media I mean I guess what's the what was the draw
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to getting involved with doing uh only fans like you you appear in her videos yeah yeah yeah I guess
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what's the draw there because I'm sure you could I'm just bored being the good guy I'm bored getting
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told by management saying I'll wait wait for that wait for longevity wait for the brand deals I'm like
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this and I've blown off on tiktok I'm trending I'm hot I want to live my life listen if I've got to go
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back to work in the next couple of years which I plan not to but it is what it is I've lived a good
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life you know so I'm just living it up making the money if it all goes wrong so be it from what I'm
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hearing it sounds like you wanted to like be your own boss like yeah yeah 100% because I used to make
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your own schedule and get up whenever you want and it was dreadful I was getting up at shoot the clock
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getting home at shoot the clock sleeping shower sleep back to work and yeah it was silly so
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I'm happy she's happy why not all right what about your relationship status um I'm in like a
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situationship kind of but I'm definitely single so okay yeah okay so wait you're hold on definitely
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single but what I'm in a situationship but I'm still single oh you're in a situationship okay how long
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have you been in the situationship for for like five months now five months and uh is it long
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distance or is local guy um he's not that far he's like two hours two hours okay and so would you like
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it to be more than what it currently is um I feel like right now it's like I'm chilling like what we
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have right now is just slow are you seeing other guys no is he seeing other girls I don't know you
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don't know do you care not really no don't care okay are you like you're in a situationship with
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him are there like kind of other guys that you're like going on dates with maybe not hooking up or
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anything like that no not really okay so situationship five months you don't want more though
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I mean eventually but not right now okay so you're just kind of fine with it being a bit more casual
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how often do you see him um a good like maybe once or twice a month what is that not that's
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not a relationship though no yeah no that's why I don't say relationship I said situationship
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I don't have to see him all the time like that I yeah I prefer that like that's fine with me okay
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and so was there ever like either from his end or from your end like hey I want something a bit
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more serious no nothing I mean yeah we talked like the future but right now no so you never
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like what you never had the talk like what is this where are we going do you want to be committed
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monogamous okay we're just chilling just chilling and do you have a roster or is this like genuinely
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the only guy he's the only one right now he's the only one okay all right what about you um
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right now I'm single single single okay any prospects um no no prospects no prospects I've
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been single though for only four months you've been single for four months okay longest relationship
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um a year and a half and what about you longest relationship oh um three years three years okay
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so you've been single for four months no rebounds um okay wait okay yeah there has been rebounds
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has been rebounds yes there has plural what are we talking okay okay what are we talking maybe one or
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two maybe one or two three three four maybe and so uh but no no prospects currently or no no I'm not
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I'm certainly like currently I'm not looking for like a relationship because that relationship I
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went through too much to even want to think about that went through too much went through too much
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how so um mommy issues on his part or yours mama's boy gotta watch his words well what does that what
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does that mean for somebody to have uh mommy issues it can mean like a lot of things a lot of
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different things yeah but I think in my circumstance he just really he he told me himself um like in
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any situation there was he would choose his mom over me and like I still stayed with him but like
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I was a very loyal girlfriend we had came even into college and you this is not a trauma dump but like
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this is what he told me and yeah like his mom was overbearing overbearing I have to defend him
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there though like as a man like your mom your mom is the woman it is it is and I gave him I always gave
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him respect and you know I stayed for you know the whole time um but at certain points it's better not
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to say certain things because that really hurt that really hurt during that time um so you ended the
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relationship yeah I ended the relationship what about you um I'm single for how long um pretty much my
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whole life except for over uh winter break I started talking to this guy and he's from back home by the
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way so he's not from Santa Barbara and um we were like hanging out a lot going on like dates all the
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time and then I had to come back at like the end of January but then I come home every month still
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anyways so we hung out when I would come home and then we just like stopped talking just because he
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wasn't ready for a relationship but it was it was a relationship wait so when did this end
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um middle of March so like St. Patrick's two months ago three months ago around St. Patrick's Day
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who ended it um him he broke up with you broke up sure yeah he ended it did he say why yeah because
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he wasn't ready for a relationship oh wasn't ready for a relationship okay yeah how long was that
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relationship like beginning of January too grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars
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BICU need backup put me in coach I will even play with half my brain tied behind my back to keep
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things fair standing by to go from zero to hero hmm that's actually not a bad idea uh what does that
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mean let me let me see what we can do let me think about it um it might be let me let me think
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about a grid one I'll get through the uh relationship status stuff and uh thank you for the message man
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good to see you in the chat we might have to uh tag you in though um so okay go ahead I forgot
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what's your longest relationship like January to St. Patrick's Day no no not that like your longest
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relationship or was that it that was it yeah so so three months three months three months three
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months okay so you broke up with him any rebounds he broke up with me basically but no no rebounds
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no rebounds no prospects currently nothing I'm moving talking stage I'm moving home next year back
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to the bay area so I don't really think it's worth you're not transferring to UCSB no and that wasn't
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my plan anyways for being okay are you going to continue with school or no I'm just going to be
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working with my mom for her business okay so you're leaving pretty soon then yeah going back
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home soon yeah all right what about you all right me I'm single how long have you been single um
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honestly there's been like guys but there's never been anything like really serious so I wouldn't
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consider anything that I've had a serious relationship what's the longest period of time
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that you've uh been in a talking stage situation should um I'd say like a couple weeks couple months
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five months five months yeah but you've never had title boyfriend girlfriend no I wouldn't say
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that no how long have you been single I guess you said your whole life yeah basically I that's what
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I consider on my are you talking to anybody right now even very early on superficial um I'd like to
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say yes probably you'd like to say yes yeah what would he like to say we don't know
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uh how long have you been seeing this maybe guy uh this is about like a month now one month yeah
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okay all right it's pretty fresh so talking stage all right what about you um I've only had one
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relationship it lasted for a year we broke up I think like a month ago um and it's a little
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complicated because he's technically my boss oh yeah when you met was he your boss no um I was
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working at a dispensary in town and that's how I met him and then we kind of started talking and
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then we stopped and then I met him um downtown on my birthday and then we started talking and then
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he convinced me to start working for him and then it was a whole year and it was very serious
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and then just shit hit the fan kind of sounds like a rom-com dive watch right yeah definitely
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watched that on Netflix before so you're dating one year it ended a month ago yes who broke up with
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who he did why why did he break up with you um he said it was too much for him I think I was just
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too much of a woman to be honest and he just couldn't handle it too much of a woman yeah what
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does that mean well honestly I was like a wife without a ring I was like cooking cleaning like
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literally wiping his ass I'm just kidding wait hold on are you sure you're using literally correctly
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I wasn't wiping his ass so you were figuratively yeah like I was washing his clothes and then I
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obviously can't like blame this all on him because no one was like putting a gun in my head and
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wanting to do this is just because I genuinely thought this was going to be like a long-term
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kind of thing um but yeah you know things happen and you gotta keep on going so you were doing like
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wifey things yeah without the ring yeah so you said you were cooking yes cleaning yes were you
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living with him um I was leaving living with him like part-time I would like sleep over on the
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weekends but we would literally see each other every day at his place or yours um his place and
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then we would go to work together but you would only crash from like Thursday through Sunday were
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you paying rent no okay but you did have like yeah I had like he definitely took care you you live with
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your parents yes yeah and you definitely took care of me for sure okay but there was like
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obviously a lot of you were doing a lot of the domestic
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um besides cooking cleaning um washing clean uh and like doing the whole office work I felt like
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it was a lot I felt like I definitely well he was paying you for that right like when you were working for him or not
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yeah he was but it was like like once a month what do you mean once a month uh uh like he would only
00:26:53.940
pay me a certain amount once a month and then oh like a flat fee yeah like a salary technically yes
00:27:01.440
was it like official job yeah it was an official job oh so I mean sketchy no yeah it was because I
00:27:08.080
thought like this was a long term and I wanted to build this business with him like I wanted to it was
00:27:13.400
like a mom and pop shop and I wanted to build it from the ground up and I even went he even paid to
00:27:18.080
like for me to go to school to do the business and accounting degree so it's like oh you paid for
00:27:24.180
your school oh definitely yes at city college yes how much for someone local that's usually well
00:27:31.380
because I also got the semester or something yeah but I also applied for like scholarships and then
00:27:37.880
because I also was a local they did give me half of the year free for being like it's called the
00:27:46.340
promise program yeah for like local high school students yeah so I got that too so it wasn't that
00:27:51.220
much but still like he pushed me to be better in certain ways so that's why it kind of it was did he
00:27:56.020
pay for your textbooks and stuff yes that's why I was a bit blindsided when like stuff when he said he
00:28:01.820
didn't want to be with him anywhere uh did you have a car would he help out with other kinds of
00:28:06.020
expenses yeah um well I had a car and it like wasn't like ideal and so we decided to uh sell it but
00:28:16.560
then my mom gave it away to a friend so I couldn't even sell that so then he was kind enough to let me
00:28:22.420
like use his car and then now that like we broke up that shit was like yanked so I'm basically starting
00:28:30.120
everything from the beginning like putting back all the pieces so it's a it's been very um difficult
00:28:36.560
for me but also like very liberating because like yeah you know sometimes you get so caught up and
00:28:43.720
comfortable in a situation and then like when you like get out of it even if you don't want to
00:28:50.400
it you know you start to realize like oh shit things are gonna be okay okay and so what was the
00:28:57.780
thing that you said earlier about you were doing wifey shit but you didn't have a ring something like
00:29:03.200
that I don't know yeah um can you elaborate like what do you mean by that no what I just wanted I
00:29:09.700
don't want to twist your words what what did you say kind of in that sense oh that like I felt like I
00:29:16.520
was doing everything when it comes to um like personal stuff when it came to cleaning and cooking
00:29:24.300
and just providing for him all around and did you feel that that wasn't fair um I felt like it wasn't
00:29:33.840
fair because I he would make me feel like I wasn't doing enough and I felt like you know I'm I'm a
00:29:40.560
person who loves hobbies and to do stuff so I just felt like that took so much of my time and him for
00:29:45.900
him to debunk that and say that I don't do anything around anywhere you know that it just felt like a
00:29:53.320
little degrading so what were some of the things he wanted you to do that you were not already doing
00:30:00.540
I have no clue oh he didn't tell you no he would just say I wasn't doing enough and that he was
00:30:06.120
doing everything I think maybe it was towards like the office work sure it's just because like well
00:30:11.020
this was this job was new for me too so okay and there was no like uh training so I was I felt like
00:30:18.540
I was in the water trying to figure everything out especially since like it's really important
00:30:24.000
paperwork and you know does anybody know what that saying is like don't do wifey shit for
00:30:29.320
does anybody like I've heard this term used what anybody know specifically what it is I think it's
00:30:34.640
like don't don't give it don't give him the husband treatment until he puts a ring on it oh yeah
00:30:38.920
don't do wifey stuff for a boyfriend don't do wifey stuff for a boyfriend okay yeah but I mean
00:30:45.640
he was he was paying for your school hold on hold on he was paying for your school you're pretty much
00:30:53.600
living with him you were you were at his place every single day sleeping there three four days a
00:30:58.120
week he was paying for your books he helped you out with a car he let you borrow his car correct
00:31:03.500
he was paying for everything within the household I think that's a fair trade-off no no definitely but
00:31:10.580
then when it when it looks like that but then like the disrespect starts rolling in and how did he
00:31:17.960
disrespect you uh let's see well for starters again the whole like mean telling telling me that I
00:31:26.640
haven't done enough um and like stepping over some boundaries that I specifically said and then he
00:31:37.560
would still repeat those those disrespect for those certain boundaries may I ask what those are
00:31:43.760
um well for starters I felt really like awkward when I found like a lot of his ex like belongings and
00:31:54.120
then like him following her on uh Instagram and I told him like you know I understand if you guys
00:32:00.760
ended in good terms but like that is something that I don't feel comfortable especially with finding out
00:32:05.480
certain other things that I wouldn't want to say because I feel like in respect of him um and then
00:32:11.760
being defensive and then also like finding like I don't know I it gives me like I guess the ick when
00:32:18.820
I find like a certain guy following like multiple women who like are just exposing himself and I
00:32:27.100
understand like that's how the culture that we're living in but if you from my perspective I would love
00:32:33.440
to know that I am just like the only person you like see like their muse even though I know that's
00:32:39.540
not true because like there's a bunch of beautiful women out there that obviously when you're on
00:32:43.320
Instagram like that's gonna come up and I don't mind it but I also don't it's a whole nother thing
00:32:47.640
when you're in a committed relationship and you're liking commenting like all these like pics
00:32:52.320
and like me telling them like hey like I don't really appreciate that and then instead of him
00:32:57.720
like saying you know like I get it it's not a big deal but I will do this for you instead he just
00:33:02.980
gets defensive and saying that like I'm crazy and insecure but it's totally not that did you see
00:33:08.480
him liking and commenting underneath yeah oh wow that's like that's actually disrespectful that's right
00:33:15.800
that is yeah yeah he would comment on them and then like yeah and then him just being like
00:33:24.940
you're crazy and I'm just like bro wait so here I'm gonna get your relationship status then we'll
00:33:29.920
kind of come back to the like wifey duty stuff go ahead yes uh I'm married and we've been together
00:33:35.500
for five years um but we've been married for 18 months congratulations married 18 months how old
00:33:44.120
are you again uh 24 when did you get married what age I was wait hold on I had just turned 23 yes
00:33:54.180
so I'm 24 and a half okay and you've been together since you were like 19 uh yes okay and I'm assuming
00:34:03.260
this is your longest relationship that's correct okay cool uh so going around the table kind of on
00:34:09.260
her thing about how she was doing like wifely duties for now were you kind of resenting that a little bit
00:34:15.020
no I that was a dream of mine I loved to provide and take care of him I think that's like a labor of
00:34:21.940
love and okay you know so do you guys think like there's this term I don't know the specific term but
00:34:27.120
something along the lines of don't do wifey shit for a guy who's not your husband do you guys agree
00:34:32.480
with that going around the table starting with Cindy um I wouldn't say like husband but like
00:34:37.760
someone that you're not sure about like like you're allowed to do wifey stuff if you're in a
00:34:42.880
relationship yeah just like a boyfriend yeah with a boyfriend like you know shit what about even
00:34:47.320
very early on first second third date even no no ew gross right okay what about what about you
00:34:55.360
Sophia can um so sorry wait what's up I uh can we just like describe what wifey like cook clean like
00:35:05.560
folder laundry that's like the whole of it um I mean like it's just like being in a secure
00:35:12.600
relationship what would the girl do in the relationship okay earlier but that would that
00:35:17.200
would be you talking like sex yeah yeah like it's sex a wifey thing yeah okay yeah like have sex with
00:35:24.240
them like you know yeah but people do that shit with without me all the time but you know that's
00:35:32.160
included in the package but yeah okay so so we are including being a wife what is what is the definition
00:35:37.840
of a wife to you to me yeah oh it's it's love and commitment lifelong until death do us part so that's
00:35:47.660
in sickness and in health and the good and the bad so yeah whatever he wants I'll do that for him
00:35:54.300
and if I need something he'll do that for me so that's okay uh Sophia what about you um I can't cook
00:36:02.020
and I can't clean um but I can suck dick oh yeah so watch um I think I'm more of the wife in a
00:36:12.820
relationship I do the cooking cleaning um you wait you do in yeah you do the cooking and cleaning
00:36:18.300
it's just calm it's chill I don't mind doing it okay but I bring him on holidays and I buy him nice
00:36:23.080
clothes and so on so on so yeah wait so like I have more of the masculine role she's the breadwinner
00:36:31.700
are you the breadwinner yeah you're the breadwinner yeah but when when she tells you to bark I'll
00:36:36.480
woof do you know what I mean so it's a saying woof tell me tell me to bark
00:36:41.600
fuck woof woof I'm crying that's cute okay all right um your thoughts on this I love being a wife I
00:36:55.920
love it I love it I love it yeah I honestly forgot the question what's it what's it feel to be a wife
00:37:06.980
I don't know what was it so it's like do you think you should be doing wifey stuff for a guy who's not
00:37:13.460
like husband or even boyfriend no shouldn't be doing that okay what about you um I agree but like
00:37:24.120
I'm the type of person to it depends if I really like you I'm gonna get attached and then I'll do
00:37:29.520
the wifey things I agree I agree with her because I do that too yeah like I just want to take care of
00:37:34.360
them if if I like if they let you that's good if I like it's like small steps to show that you could
00:37:40.600
yeah that I could be wife and you know tease them in tease them into the room what about you um well
00:37:46.480
regarding the sexual aspect I'm a virgin and and I'm actually waiting until marriage so that's like
00:37:56.320
where that part would play into that so being a wife marriage but you're waiting until marriage yes
00:38:04.160
um are you religious you're waiting I'm not waiting till marriage because of religion
00:38:10.080
um I'm Jewish so I'm feeding into that whole like thing like no that's not why but um it's just my
00:38:19.120
personal choice because I feel like the world we're in now is just not somewhere where I'd want sorry
00:38:25.560
where I would want to insert myself with guys who just won't want to be serious especially in Santa Barbara
00:38:32.140
so true that I personally feel like Santa Barbara is hard for me to find someone that's like
00:38:36.740
wanting to commit wait so you're not hold on wait so you're like you're not a born again virgin like
00:38:44.100
no I'm like a straight up straight up 19 and a few months being one wait okay wait yeah like my whole
00:38:53.540
life okay because I'm 19 and right yeah yeah um yeah and so you're you're like are you waiting for
00:39:00.940
like you want to wait until marriage or what if you just meet that guy who you're like I really like
00:39:05.620
this guy you've been dating for a while well that too I just want to make sure I'm with like the right
00:39:10.160
person but so far I haven't found the right person that I'd want to be with so my limits like waiting
00:39:16.920
did that play a factor in your little fling you had from January to St. Patrick's Day yeah so he's
00:39:24.020
religious too he's Catholic um but like he's not really because he's not a virgin but that doesn't
00:39:30.660
matter to me it's just whether if like you're a good person did that push him away with the sexual
00:39:34.340
aspect honestly no no it didn't fair play it didn't but um and I asked him too I was like if we want to
00:39:41.780
continue but he just wasn't ready for relationship are you uh religiously Jewish or or uh ethnically
00:39:49.320
Jewish or both um religiously religiously yes okay yes yes yes okay so wifey duties not until it just
00:39:59.220
doesn't apply at the moment but um okay yeah sure what about you um me personally I feel like I want
00:40:04.500
to like get a grasp of a guy's character before I like kind of do that so technically no I would
00:40:11.760
agree with like doing wifey duties for a guy that I don't think would give me that but if I do
00:40:17.800
find that I would have no issue what about you oh well we kind of already talked about it your thoughts
00:40:22.540
on this um yes I I would say don't don't do that don't do that you're just gonna get yourself in a mess
00:40:29.580
okay I have a question kind of related to this going around the table like on the first date you
00:40:34.880
think do you guys think a guy should pay for the first date yes Sophia what about you
00:40:40.260
I mean I've had it quite a lot where I pay for the first date but that it's more like to show
00:40:47.760
the dominance if that makes sense for the for the guy to pay no for me a pair for you well yeah
00:40:54.360
because you want to it depends how the date goes and who's like insinuated it if that makes sense
00:40:59.520
what about you what do you think yeah I've always paid you've always tried I've tried to pay with her
00:41:05.560
yeah I would say yeah but me personally I would pay too so it doesn't really matter to me okay
00:41:11.220
wouldn't be like because we've had girls I wouldn't be like tripping at all yeah we've had girls who
00:41:15.400
come on the show say oh if he didn't pay for the first date wouldn't be a second yeah no I wouldn't
00:41:19.720
care what about for you um well I've been in like both I've had to pay for like 60 dollars worth of
00:41:26.740
like sushi for the first date and like it didn't go far after that so I feel like yeah because you
00:41:32.460
split no because I paid oh you paid the whole thing yeah okay yeah didn't go well because you paid
00:41:38.040
the whole thing well I paid and I was like I didn't make a big deal of it like I didn't make a big
00:41:43.740
deal of it um but then the next the next time we went around we went to Chipotle and that's only
00:41:49.800
like 20 bucks and he made me like pay again I was like oh this is absurd and I was like there's no
00:41:55.980
there's no third date there is no third date like if I'm just gonna be your sugar mama then what's the
00:42:00.220
point of me being here like and there was no label I was that was a situation you paid for the first
00:42:05.060
you paid for the second wait what did you did you guys like had you guys been hooking up no you
00:42:11.240
didn't hook up at all no no hooking up no he just wanted the freebie he wanted the freebie
00:42:15.640
what about you um should I pay for the first date I believe it doesn't hurt to ask like to offer
00:42:22.660
if like is it okay like that type of thing or like you mean like going for the purse
00:42:27.860
yeah you want me to get it yeah like it doesn't hurt to offer but you want the guy to pay anyways
00:42:32.720
well with my experience the guys have paid so it's okay they'll be like it's okay what about you yeah me
00:42:37.580
I feel like the guy should pay um but if he does it it's not gonna be like a oh an argument towards
00:42:43.660
me but if he makes it a problem like oh you should pay that type of thing and he actually
00:42:48.140
makes it an argument that's when I'll be like yeah no yeah because I feel like it should just be
00:42:51.800
like the courtesy in your heart to want to pay for me okay uh yeah I agree with Alex like I would
00:42:59.060
offer but you know you want the guy to pay of course yeah yeah I want the guy to pay my my husband
00:43:07.160
paid throughout our whole relationship I never once paid for a date okay well and I ask I ask this
00:43:13.900
question because there's this interesting thing because I hear this trope I hear it on tiktok
00:43:17.640
of okay hold on grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars be standing by ready to fight the
00:43:25.640
good fight the brit needs to know cock rocking is not a job skill so might want to get some skills
00:43:31.620
training what's cock a man sweats beta tears let's go I didn't understand a word of that
00:43:38.720
is that broken american or what grid one is a cock rocking he speaks in uh he's like haikus
00:43:45.600
it's like a haiku he's like a poet he's like shakespeare shakespeare kind of shakespeare's english
00:43:50.800
like an american shakespeare you know what I mean um yeah um do you pay for the first date
00:43:58.840
uh it depends it depends I've had now I kind of I've changed my position on this a little bit
00:44:06.660
oh you're single huh you're single I can't disclose that but but uh you're an open relationship so well
00:44:13.180
here's the thing right okay so here's my view here's my view on this so when it comes to paying for the
00:44:17.960
first date my view is is that you got a lot of modern women out there especially if you're dating
00:44:23.460
in california all these girls super liberal super feminist don't believe in traditional gender roles
00:44:28.780
modern women probably dating multiple men very good chance they're even having sex with multiple
00:44:33.960
multiple men you don't always know until even further on in the relationship not the world not
00:44:38.560
relationship but after dating them for a bit if they're going to reveal if they're involved with
00:44:42.840
other guys it could just be dating could be hooking up my personal view is it's a big
00:44:47.360
fucking hell to like do the traditional thing for a girl that is fucking another dude that's a
00:44:53.360
massive hell but you're not together no huh you're not together so why does it matter what do you
00:44:57.500
mean like you're saying about you're worrying about what she's doing what you're doing so in the same
00:45:02.240
way that a lot of girls here were like well you shouldn't do wifely duties yeah for a guy who's
00:45:08.340
not your boyfriend not your husband or whatever I think being a provider is like a more
00:45:14.420
traditional gender role boyfriend role husband role in that scenario I don't think you should be
00:45:19.620
providing for a woman who's sleeping with another guy or dating other men you know and I know you
00:45:26.400
guys do the poly thing but like if you're not official how do you know that would you be sleeping
00:45:30.720
with other people as well no or seeing anyone else no no I'm I'm kind of like I laser in like if I'm
00:45:37.640
interested in a girl like I'm gonna pursue it if it works great if it doesn't I'm moving on but I'm not
00:45:42.580
like trying to be dating like five chicks at a time sleeping with multiple girls at a time
00:45:46.380
not really my thing you would if you could though oh I could yeah I know you could but you probably
00:45:51.840
would or you what do you mean because again like we again I'm a boy I know how boys think and it's
00:45:57.420
just like I get zoned in like well once I know that woman it's fair and it's that woman but like
00:46:02.920
these boys oh yeah this and that but sure do you do you really play that or is that just uh okay I'm
00:46:08.960
just messaging her you ain't got like five things on the side you're a businessman right yes yes of
00:46:14.180
course and it you're self-employed yes do you grind you hustle hustle yeah of course you work a lot
00:46:19.740
right you're a busy guy right busy yeah but let me ask does it take a lot of time to date like seeing
00:46:26.000
chicks it's a lot of it's a lot of time right but here and there and well here's the other thing
00:46:32.000
you probably like I'm assuming you get like dms from girls who are pre-interested in you right yeah
00:46:36.660
like do you remember dating how it was before you got clout oh shit I've got I didn't even get
00:46:41.060
a look if you were on a dating app bro you'd have to message like 20 chicks and then you get one date
00:46:46.740
and then 50 chance she's gonna click for a day before I met her and I had 300 matches yeah it
00:46:52.300
takes a while it's a lot of time if you're like a normal guy like the average you can message more
00:46:56.000
than one though yeah you can but it's still like a massive time commitment and for me I've always been
00:47:00.600
like on my hustle on my grind I don't have time to be juggling like five ten girls so at least for me
00:47:05.540
what I found to be most beneficial to like business and hustling one girl at a time I can't do like the
00:47:11.800
juggling but you can't moan at her for seeing other men if she's not busy and she's just living her
00:47:16.340
life no wait I can't what you can't moan at her for seeing oh I just I wouldn't date her I wouldn't
00:47:21.260
date her you'd be not official so what do you mean you know you're not together yeah you you might be
00:47:25.620
texting her but you're not official as soon as you send that first text well so I would say to your
00:47:30.780
point that definitely a lot of women modern women are entertaining multiple options absolutely
00:47:36.400
yeah yeah 100 sometimes you won't know but there there are actually girls out there that do date
00:47:40.860
intentionally and will only date one person at a time and so those are the kind of girls that I'm
00:47:46.640
interested in a girl who's like genuinely single properly single it's hard to find that kind of girl
00:47:52.380
but a girl who's properly single yeah that's the kind of girl you can't again this is what I'm going
00:47:56.440
back to you can't complain if you're not officially together if she is talking to other guys seeing
00:48:01.100
other options seeing oh she can do what she wants I'm just not yeah I don't think I don't want to
00:48:04.580
date her I think he was just like explaining his uh preference and like like we all know time is
00:48:10.340
money yeah no yeah no someone is not aligning to you you have you can't judge women for having
00:48:15.500
options that's all I'm trying to say that's what I'm trying to get a pass that's all oh yeah they
00:48:19.140
have a lot of options but I just wouldn't want to pursue a woman for example I remember back when I was
00:48:23.740
doing the dating app thing I was on a date with this girl she just downloaded hinge I think
00:48:28.300
we went on the first date we went on the first date she had been on the app for three three days
00:48:35.800
four days she told me she'd already been on two dates she had three dates lined up I lost interest
00:48:41.220
immediately like I don't want to pursue a girl who's like date even if she's not sleeping with them
00:48:45.840
she's searching for the right man that's what I don't care don't care I don't want to date I don't
00:48:51.280
want to date a girl who moves like that doesn't interest me you don't believe in like you don't
00:48:56.940
if you're not if you are single you're going to struggle to find a girl I'll tell you that now
00:49:01.280
but if you're if you're taking if you're taking fair play if you're taking fair play
00:49:05.280
but your struggle your struggle is fine I'm fine I think the struggle is worth the time though
00:49:09.960
if you're getting the person that you really want and the person that aligns with your values
00:49:14.160
yeah I'll get that but again time is money we're businessmen and we're not getting any younger
00:49:18.420
we're getting older so you're losing valuable years so I want to live life and have fun so
00:49:21.700
isn't that okay for men to get older and then just like the nice white hair and the wrinkles
00:49:26.860
I don't I don't really fancy the white hair to be honest no personal preference I'll say
00:49:32.000
I mean so just bringing it back to like who should pay my position used to be is like look I was on the
00:49:38.180
dating apps I was going out with girls who in all likelihood you know this is kind of before I
00:49:43.280
became aware of some of the you know the dating meta is I just wouldn't pay for them I wouldn't
00:49:49.340
pay for the I'd split you know I'd pay for my shit she could pay for hers but I'm like you're dating
00:49:53.780
other dudes you're probably like here here's the scenario I like to give like it's massive L to go
00:49:59.120
on a date with a girl and then pay like you know you do the you do everything right you pay for the
00:50:04.480
date you take her to a nice dinner she gets uh you know she doesn't eat everything she gets a doggy
00:50:09.400
bag to go gives you an ass out hug at the end of the day oh it was a good good date and then she
00:50:15.140
brings that doggy bag back she meets up with her fuck buddy who by the way never had to take her on
00:50:21.400
a date never paid for anything just some like hot attractive dude or whatever she gives him the
00:50:25.880
food that you paid for he eats it then he fucks her this sounds like two girls move like that
00:50:30.680
girls move like that not all girls not all women I feel like if you come into the situation
00:50:35.880
thinking like that though you're not going to find nothing good yeah I agree yeah you attract
00:50:40.360
you attract what you think no yes I avoid that I avoid you subconsciously think like yeah I mean
00:50:48.440
you're kind that's how that's how your mindset is right now you're like oh I don't trust I think
00:50:54.020
like I don't trust girls I think paying for it's like this you have to like leave that behind you
00:50:59.560
it's like now so my view providing for a girl that's reserved for your girlfriend that's reserved
00:51:04.940
for your girlfriend like I'm not gonna do that for some like situationship oh she's dating other
00:51:11.140
dudes not interested yeah like the halfsies I don't think honestly like in my opinion if it's the
00:51:16.080
first date I think halfsies is like fine you pay for your stuff I pay for mine but if I can add a
00:51:22.080
caveat to that I'm also not stuck in like five month situationships like if I like a girl it's pretty
00:51:27.280
quick like what's that fucking Miley Cyrus song like a wrecking ball like I'm coming in like a fucking
00:51:32.560
whirlwind like I'm not gonna do this thing where it's like well uh we're gonna be in a
00:51:36.700
situationship for six months no I'm gonna be like pretty quick like I like you you like me like this
00:51:42.240
is like like let's make this work yeah yeah I'm not gonna do this like vague shit so yeah do you
00:51:47.760
always date from dating apps no I got rid of that shit like a year ago okay so let's say you have a
00:51:52.840
missus then huh you have a missus no I just got rid of it well I got banned actually I got I got
00:51:58.620
banned from the I got banned from he's got a wife at home no no no but I got banned from uh why did
00:52:03.720
you get banned oh because I was like using it to like get guests for the show oh no way I wasn't even
00:52:09.540
trying to like actually with first dreams you're not the only one after a while I was I mean I was
00:52:14.220
like back in the day using it like for dating and stuff but then when I started the podcast I was
00:52:18.100
like let me just ask girls to be on the show like yeah and then I got finally got banned I know that
00:52:23.300
he found girls on hinge found girls on hinge yeah to like just connect he's like a director well girls
00:52:32.060
do that shit like oh here's my only fans hey some girls the reverse hustle some girls like you know
00:52:39.900
like they got like guys be finding guys be trying to find girls to manage yeah but uh yeah I don't know
00:52:45.920
that's uh for shizzle let's say you you did meet this girl and it wasn't on a dating app would you
00:52:52.940
and and you see them every week and you know they're very single and you're like you're cultivating
00:52:58.360
a relationship before you actually want to date what would that change your opinion about paying for
00:53:04.040
the first date well here's where my position kind of evolved so I mean the old the best move is in
00:53:13.260
terms of success would to just be pay for the date like that's my advice for guys like just pay for
00:53:18.060
the date because it's never going to be a negative it's either going to be a neutral or a positive
00:53:21.820
whereas if you offer to split it could be a negative it's never going to be a positive it's
00:53:25.880
either going to be a neutral or it's going to be a negative for some cohort of women some women are
00:53:30.400
going to be like oh yeah he just I've heard this on the show oh he just views me as a friend
00:53:36.060
or they'll just be like ah I'm not interested so I think the best move for a guy is to pay
00:53:42.980
but I kind of stood on principle I feel like if you don't I'm my own biggest you don't you don't
00:53:49.940
know how many girls I've talked out of fucking me okay all right but if you don't pay for the first
00:53:56.020
day what but why like oh because I'm just I'm kind of like pretty honest like I don't like yeah
00:54:02.980
and I'll just like if something comes in my mind I'll just say it like no filter okay so yeah I
00:54:10.920
mean uh and I'm probably autistic too so okay but I feel like usually well in my case the first date
00:54:20.280
is usually casual and it like it shouldn't be too crazy like sushi I mean that was because I really
00:54:26.380
liked him but like last time I went to Kane's and that's like 30 bucks and if you can't pay
00:54:31.620
as a man for 30 bucks like that just shows me like I don't want to be with you you know if you
00:54:36.540
can't even provide for the first date 30 bucks like that's that's nothing and that's the question
00:54:41.300
that comes up is it can you provide for me yeah exactly but so what so but let me ask so so why
00:54:49.140
people don't want to be provided but question for you why should a guy pay like what's the argument
00:54:54.720
for why they should do it because hold on no no no Cindy I'll get to you in a sec go ahead
00:55:00.440
hmm I just feel like courtesy I feel like if I'm if me personally if I want to date a dude
00:55:07.220
like I would want him to provide for me and even in the slightest form because you are so right
00:55:12.820
especially these Cali girls we are very independent very very um modernized modernized you know all
00:55:20.620
these girls are feminists yeah well most of them but some of them but it just like depends but I
00:55:28.520
feel like yeah that was definitely me I'm sorry it wasn't me I feel like yeah like I just want to be
00:55:36.520
like if bro if you can't pay 30 bucks for the first date then you know I wouldn't mind doing
00:55:42.160
halfsies either but it's like knowing that you can provide that knowing that you did that little
00:55:46.020
small gesture it's really nice it just goes a long way it goes a long way and I feel like
00:55:50.120
as a girl even like the bare minimum like that makes me that makes me go crazy I feel like no
00:55:57.180
matter the gender though you should be able to have like the 15 in the bank account no matter what
00:56:02.180
yeah just just to be like ready and prepared for it exactly but okay but all the things that you
00:56:08.620
described like you could just flip that around and say the girl should do that too so there's
00:56:15.020
something very specific about it being a man that should pay that's gendered so why should a man
00:56:20.800
pay I mean if you look at the society that we're in right now I mean it's kind of self-explanatory yeah
00:56:26.500
yeah but men have to be successful today I think like yeah again it's a it's a scarface saying get
00:56:31.740
the money then get get the women so I feel like you you've got to have some level of success money
00:56:39.040
wise it's not clout but like if you are a bum and you're sitting at home doing nothing and got nothing
00:56:43.380
in the bank like why are you dating like sort yourself out also I feel like as a man you
00:56:49.920
should come and like make the environment for me to want to be submissive and want to be taken care
00:56:55.520
of and I think that's where in our feminine energy yeah do you want to be dominant yeah do we I feel
00:57:03.100
like that's to be the dom no like you like you know submissive no but if you're dating like a
00:57:09.020
liberal feminist woman like of course you should split I mean put her in a position to want to to
00:57:15.240
want to I said you should want to put her in a position to want to lean more towards the not so
00:57:20.520
oh I need to be so independent I need to be over my husband you need to make her feel safe in that
00:57:24.860
space first in order to do that you have to put on that big boy pants and show her to earn her trust
00:57:31.280
no no but you're if she's like a super liberal feminist woman and you spend 15 at sweet baby
00:57:37.800
what is it I don't know sweet baby okay I don't know what it's called uh you think that's all of a
00:57:44.740
sudden gonna undo the like years of programming and wiring that makes her like a independent boss
00:57:51.960
babe feminist woman no but I feel like it comes with just experiences like like I said I've been
00:58:00.440
on the sushi day which you know didn't go well but then I've also been on like a cheesecake factory day
00:58:06.320
and like you know that's fine and he paid for everything and he had no no problem doing that
00:58:10.940
and so I would just personally want to lean towards that and not the dude who made me pay for everything
00:58:16.560
you know okay that's fair that's fair um hold on oh there was a chat but I totally missed it that's
00:58:22.800
too bad actually I'll just don't like who what who's asked the other one on the date though true true
00:58:27.820
because it's like them insinuating it's them that's asking for your time if that makes sense
00:58:33.080
well but hold on going around the table more often than not of all the first dates you've gone on
00:58:40.000
who's initiated it starting with you cindy go ahead you were the guy most of it's guys
00:58:45.700
most of it's boys but what about for you the mostly you initiating as compared to like girls asking you
00:58:52.020
out yeah of course yeah it's normal for guys what about you the guy the dude yeah only the guy only
00:58:58.020
the guy have uh go ahead the guy yeah yeah guys same have any of you like never asked out a guy
00:59:04.840
show of hands if you just never like take them out like personally no no I'm talking first date
00:59:09.620
so obviously if you got a boyfriend you're like hey babe you want to go get dinner like
00:59:13.020
like never insinuated we should go out like first first date first date yeah but no yeah first date
00:59:20.360
initiating who's initiated a first date show of hands god damn okay that's okay cindy that's it
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no I have oh you have to okay well yeah but I so I I hear what you're saying it kind of like it
00:59:32.300
makes sense well whoever asks should pay but it does kind of ignore the fact that overwhelmingly
00:59:36.880
there's a burden on men to be the ones who to ask because it would make sense to for this to be the
00:59:42.600
standard if women initiated at comparable levels oh well okay men ask sometimes women ask sometimes
00:59:49.720
but women overwhelmingly never initiate and if men's if men's standard was well I'm just going to wait
00:59:55.800
for women to ask me out on dates the same way that uh the same way that uh women will can will and can
01:00:05.080
just wait for men to ask them out there's no there's really never a burden on women to ever take
01:00:10.740
initiative when it comes to dating because men will just come to you now might not be at the frequency
01:00:15.320
or the choices of your desire but uh it does kind of ignore this fact so uh is there anything else
01:00:23.120
i forgot i don't know oh we're gonna do a chat okay we got jerk off juggernaut uh cindy read this for
01:00:29.200
me please so i was incapable of getting through the last episode with cindy and brie as guests but cindy
01:00:38.340
what happened the neck cross tap question mark did you convert to from christianity question mark are you
01:00:46.960
not that convicted to the word of christ i'm not judging as i'm no godly wannabe jerk off juggernaut
01:00:57.040
thank you for the hundred dollar super chat that's a question for you cindy go ahead so i had to get it
01:01:05.720
lasered because i realized like the diameter of the cross was was like kind of crooked you got it
01:01:12.180
lasered off yeah bro cindy you admitted at the end of the show that it was a fake tattoo it took it
01:01:18.020
took a bit of time but you you mean you lasered off the totally not fake tattoo it was it was real
01:01:25.820
so i had to like laser it off cindy you literally admitted we can pull up the receipts you admitted
01:01:30.800
on the show it was fake that's why i couldn't come in you know are you not listening to anything
01:01:35.200
i'm saying you literally admitted you admitted on yeah no it was it was um all right thank you
01:01:41.080
not fully real appreciate it appreciate it dude uh hold on why is my chat not popping up one sec
01:01:47.880
guys there's a little there's a little thing here uh i do want to ask just kind of a general
01:01:51.960
question for the whole panel real quick uh yeah by the way we're gonna we're aiming to get andrew
01:01:58.680
at 6 30. guys andrew uh ran into a little thing he will be joining us at around i think he said 6 30
01:02:05.060
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01:02:19.920
so quick question for the panel general question and we'll start with uh cindy what are some things
01:02:28.940
that guys do dating related that annoy you starting with you cindy some things that guys yeah if you
01:02:36.680
have just one thing that's fine um there's like a lot of things okay give us two let's start with two
01:02:44.640
leading i would say like leading me on a leading you on yeah or like they're saying they want something
01:02:55.540
serious a relationship and then they they kind of like have sexual intercourse and yeah like they
01:03:01.640
would like just want to like sleep with you and not really take it as serious as like you want it to
01:03:09.720
be and okay i mean like that but i don't know there's like cheaters cheaters
01:03:20.000
um i don't know they're just i don't know they're not supportive so what's what's give give us one
01:03:33.680
example of a time a guy led you on okay um like they would say that they're talking to only me
01:03:43.080
but then like i find out like they're talking to like other multiple women and so like they're
01:03:49.880
like calling me like baby and like just like very like sensual stuff you would say to someone intimate
01:03:55.740
that you like and sure when i see that he's like interested or hang out with other girls it's like
01:04:01.960
it's clearly showing like you don't really like want a relationship you just like want to sleep with
01:04:07.320
me or like do something sexual with me and okay yeah i don't know like that's where my trust issue
01:04:17.920
comes from okay so and so how early on in is this happening after you sleep with them before you sleep
01:04:27.720
with them um i would say sometimes before when i get like catch on so i don't like pursue them in
01:04:38.720
that way and sometimes after okay sofia what about you what is uh something dating related uh that
01:04:47.760
annoys you perhaps not with your current boyfriend but like back when you were single like mannerism
01:04:54.000
mannerisms yeah so like not saying please thank you um like people who are just rude to like
01:05:00.760
waitresses and stuff okay that's a bit of a sure yeah um obviously cheating cheating okay lying lying um
01:05:10.740
yeah okay uh bevo yeah uh what about annoying uh for like annoying things from uh on the girl's end
01:05:21.240
when it came to dating again just getting lied to yeah um whether you're getting used again like
01:05:27.940
when you've got say clout or that stature of followers um you don't know what the reason is or
01:05:34.480
are they here for that or are they here for you um yeah just just being in being led on again are they
01:05:41.440
here for you are they here for that so just find something genuine it's just what you're looking for
01:05:45.960
yeah so wasn't i i saw something in the chat there was something about like prior to you meeting
01:05:51.180
sophia there was like you were dating a girl and she just broke your heart i don't know if you want
01:05:56.200
to share that story yeah right the details of that i got used i'll be real in it um she lived a big
01:06:03.460
up canvey island that's where i'm from in england um so yeah she lived in canvey it's like a little
01:06:08.060
island um with like yeah she used to do tiktok lives i've done tiktok um tiktok was paying more money
01:06:14.080
got in contact with i was like look get on these minute long videos and i was like we was out one
01:06:19.280
night and i was pissed i was like look should we uh should i put turkey out let's go turkey and get
01:06:22.860
some content and i feel like we weren't really officially scared it's more spending time with
01:06:27.300
that one person for a long time then you sort of say oh are we a thing oh yeah yeah okay yeah no
01:06:32.540
worries um and then yeah we just started doing videos content um yeah and then it just got a bit
01:06:39.360
toxic she she got a bit too like she wouldn't even open doors herself she was like oh yes i've got
01:06:44.960
this and she's gaining followers and using me and for for them numbers and she wouldn't even open
01:06:50.140
doors she wanted me to do this this and this i think oh that you've changed you know so come to
01:06:54.520
a point where it was over and then yeah i met uh i met sophia and i just lived life so when you say
01:07:00.320
wouldn't open doors like you mean literally yeah literally like she was too good for that
01:07:03.880
you know like she thought she was better than she was bearing in mind she come from a council
01:07:08.560
estate flat and was making probably a hundred pound a week just paying her rent when where she
01:07:15.080
was making when she was me like making five to six cages from tiktok alone um so yeah it got to her
01:07:20.040
head a bit and again when people say the clout gets people's heads it got to her head where i had a
01:07:24.540
big dip like i blew up and then fell off and then blew up again i've sort of learned but now when you
01:07:29.600
get a random person with all this clout it does play with people's minds you know wait so she
01:07:34.440
would like when with the not opening door yeah he's going to costa can be on costa i remember
01:07:38.900
exactly knightswick center we've gone through so you can open the door then i'm like can you not do
01:07:44.000
it it's a bit grubby and i was like what because there's a mark on it or someone's like i don't know
01:07:49.740
like she would just stop at the door and like wait for you wait for you yeah yeah yeah this is crazy
01:07:54.440
god damn all right what if what if you weren't there she would just stay at the door for like 30
01:07:58.600
months no she'd probably wait for someone to go in and walk behind them or something you know
01:08:01.420
she'd just have to fall like uh follow behind somebody and she's half the girl what sophia
01:08:05.500
is and it just shows that people do it does go to the head of it you know so it's was it like a
01:08:09.760
germaphobe thing she didn't want to touch no no even again she just got too big for her boots
01:08:13.700
all right okay that's interesting uh what about you something that dating related that guys do that's
01:08:20.260
just annoying um like i feel like mine is like cheating like lying um like accusing me of doing stuff all
01:08:27.640
the time like i just hate that like i can't ever go nowhere without you just being like
01:08:33.220
oh like who are you with like you know just overdoing it i feel like overbearing okay what about you i
01:08:40.580
think being let on because that has happened and it's it's not fun it's not and it's like why are you
01:08:47.160
you're wasting your time too leading me on and it's like well it depends because most times it depends
01:08:54.220
because most times guys just want you know one thing and not always but i let you carry them i
01:09:01.580
let you carry them but not always no yeah but like in my cases at least in my personal experience
01:09:06.140
you can tell and they make it very apparent since the get-go and if you're just if you're just searching
01:09:12.320
for that then it's like then you're wasting your time and you're wasting my time and i don't like
01:09:16.420
that i don't like wasting my time wait you think so do you think most men just want one thing no no
01:09:20.600
not most men but a lot of men at least here in center no i'll give you most i'll give you most
01:09:25.060
but i mean like just in general it's not especially at ucsb especially here okay yeah and so like when
01:09:34.400
you say leading you on do you mean that like like like they have multiple options and multiple options
01:09:41.180
in the sense where it's we've made it apparent kind of that we're a thing but then kind of like
01:09:48.080
cindy said like you see them out with an entirely different person making out with them one night
01:09:53.400
and it's like like i thought you said you were getting ice cream like and you're at the same party
01:09:58.660
right right and i'm just like that's crazy it's crazy to me okay leading you on what about you
01:10:05.560
um from personal experience pressure like guys really forcing stuff and then you have to be like no
01:10:13.500
but like i'd say that i have a pretty good head on my shoulders so i like make it like clear like
01:10:18.860
no i will not do this with you like you're talking like i want to get to know you yeah like they want
01:10:23.120
to hook up well yeah i also um i didn't have my first kiss until january with that guy because i was
01:10:30.440
waiting for it to like be with like someone that i actually knew that i really liked because it's hard
01:10:34.980
to find that here do you do you regret it though because you're not with him now no he we had a really
01:10:39.620
good experience like it was it was a really good see i'm like a hopeless romantic okay so i feel like
01:10:45.300
i had a really good like movie experience for my first kiss so it felt like really good and it was
01:10:51.460
in the rain so like that's all i need to say it was really good but yeah wait it was in the ice skating
01:10:57.500
rink no it was in the rain oh it was raining i heard rink i was like okay yeah it's such a movie
01:11:02.280
rom-com i know that's what exactly how i wanted it to be okay so all right uh what about you um me
01:11:08.260
i feel like just like not being straight up with what you what what they want and then just having
01:11:13.020
us like go through loops of figuring it out having to act a certain way when i don't really know what
01:11:18.300
we're doing you know wait i uh cinder right cinder yeah you can call me cinder cinder i saw on your
01:11:26.000
instagram bio kind of just unrelated to this you describe yourself as a five-star girl and then you have
01:11:31.240
is it the nigerian yes i am nigerian i was actually born there oh you're born there okay so five what
01:11:36.500
is a five-star girl um me i like to i like to like associate myself actually have a star tattoo right
01:11:41.820
here ever since i was younger i kind of had a thing with stars so i kind of just use it as like my path
01:11:48.100
of life just like shoot shoot higher than what i think i can do you know i love that it's like your
01:11:54.040
signature yeah like my signature thing that i try to like associate myself with just so i just want to
01:11:58.900
be like the highest that i can be and i want to show that what the people like me and how i how i
01:12:04.200
put myself out there okay what about you i'm going off of her like not being able to answer like
01:12:09.080
straightforward questions like what do you want what are you looking for it's so annoying when they
01:12:13.860
can't even like make up their mind like oh i don't know like oh it's like bro come on okay what about
01:12:21.280
you um i would say like uh i either one going too fast or going too slow like you have to find that
01:12:28.600
nice medium if you're going too fast it's like like slow down like we need to take some time but
01:12:33.900
then if you're going too slow it's like why aren't you pursuing me so actually coming to you michaela
01:12:39.180
and i'll get into so i i wrote down some of your guys's answers to that we'll get into it later
01:12:43.040
michaela so you're married you've been dating your husband since you were what 19 is that correct
01:12:47.300
you've been together five years married 18 months you said you're conservative now but you've not
01:12:52.240
always been so did you used to be more on the liberal side more feminist yeah absolutely okay
01:12:57.020
and you did say that you uh let's see you disagreed on something actually before we get into that
01:13:04.540
can you tell us about the purity culture the purity culture thing you said you went to a true love
01:13:10.560
weights camp yes what was that so um yeah when i was like 13 14 i'm not sure which one um my parents
01:13:19.280
they took me to a like this camp called true love weights and they went with me um and we had to sit
01:13:26.880
through like conferences friday through sunday of um married couples talking about how um sex before
01:13:32.880
marriage ruined them and how it yeah it was a really it was a really interesting camp it talked
01:13:41.660
about like pornography and how that ruined marriages at 13 at 13 and um yeah i mean at that point yeah at
01:13:50.220
that point i was i mean a very obviously grew up in a very sheltered home so that was like like uh
01:13:56.880
a fire hose of information that i did not understand um and so yeah at the end of the
01:14:04.480
weekend they took us on in front of like the congregation the church congregation and had us
01:14:09.600
bestow like a ring on our finger and and vowed to not have sex before marriage like a purity ring like
01:14:15.160
like a disney stars yes and um my our parents would be there too so be you know parents you pastor god
01:14:23.740
right there um yeah and vowed uh to never have sex before marriage at 13 at 13 yeah and my parents
01:14:33.000
are so well intentioned wait so and and i'm assuming you didn't like you waited you did wait until
01:14:39.820
marriage i would say i did not like i did not make that oh okay so the camp didn't work no it didn't
01:14:48.500
it didn't work it actually it made it it made it way worse so they're all talking about chastity
01:14:53.880
celibacy and then it just yeah well probably because it told you more it told me i had no
01:15:02.200
idea i mean i'd like not to get into like too much of it but like i i kind of went through puberty late
01:15:06.040
i'm kind of a tiny person so like i went through puberty very late and so i was already before i was
01:15:10.720
even like getting into this like like what is this thing simultaneously my mom was a surrogate so i
01:15:17.520
didn't even know what like sex was because i thought that surrogacy um was how you had babies
01:15:23.400
surrogate like you yeah my so okay sorry i'm my mom had me um my mom had uh three or four other
01:15:32.360
babies for other families while i was growing up oh shit yeah uh one was twins so three times she had
01:15:39.300
babies for other families for other families okay interesting are you only child no uh i have i have
01:15:45.640
three siblings okay i see okay because here in your notes going back to the camp thing true love
01:15:50.800
lights you said it can confused you a lot for many years as a teenager you definitely made mistakes
01:15:55.460
because of it okay so moving on into some of my other actually wait hold on i'll come back to some of
01:16:02.060
the that other stuff uh let's see she's not here we have gracia is that you grace yeah you can come
01:16:09.400
oh grace okay let's see okay you said uh hold on you just got out of a one and a half year
01:16:17.740
relationship but that was four months ago right yeah you said did you already tell the story about
01:16:22.500
the crazy helicopter mother um well there's a lot she was the helicopter mom since the beginning to be
01:16:28.940
honest yeah but yeah but like it just depends because like yeah out of respect out of like both of
01:16:34.840
them i mean she treated me a certain way for you know we'll come back to that a little bit later but
01:16:42.860
i have two chats i need to read catholic commando uh oh this is a jewish girl please never change make
01:16:49.760
some guy happy there's at least 10 of guys that will be worth to wait you have time to wait thank you
01:16:57.740
catholic commando there you go and then we have coming in oh grid one motorsports donated two
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family things he will be on soon i count andrew as a friend yo grid one thank you man really appreciate
01:17:20.380
uh you tuning in and your uh message thank you man appreciate it yeah well i think 10 minutes we're
01:17:26.700
going to get him in on so and then i have david trisiak did i print did i pronounce it right
01:17:32.840
madison brian if you pay pay it off i'll front the polygraph test equipment for your macbook pro
01:17:38.840
for one panelist so it shows in real time there's a polygraphic uh jersey shore white teeth cracks me up
01:17:46.260
gtl oh gym tan laundry i think he's talking uh he's he says you're he thinks you're funny you're
01:17:53.100
cracking him up and then gtl gym tan laundry are you familiar with jersey shore he's poly d
01:17:58.840
it's like this old mtv show it's like a reality show that was jersey shore jersey shore no we've got
01:18:04.980
you've got wait i know you could geordie you got the geordie short right she's like from that way
01:18:10.560
but i'm from um we'll see the only way is essex i'm more of that way like joey essex and
01:18:15.180
all that lot so yo fps thanks for the gift i like my teeth big up the white teeth there you go
01:18:19.900
there you go uh hold on here before i have uh i needed to go over one thing let's see
01:18:27.060
actually here really quick with uh grace what so there's the crazy helicopter mom there's something
01:18:33.780
about ipad nudes oh god ipad nudes and then hiding sex from parents was that the same all the same mom
01:18:40.900
um yeah it was why don't you tell us that story i gotta get up really quick we're gonna start tuning
01:18:45.140
andrew and who's the helicopter mom like who is she who is she like yeah she was my ex's mom
01:18:52.260
oh okay yeah okay yeah and well it it all like just kind of unraveled as the relationship went on
01:19:01.000
um i believe like well we started dating the beginning like the beginning of our senior year
01:19:06.280
and it was nice because we did all like our little fun is senior activities together
01:19:10.100
and he also like i can't say he did any wrong too because i mean like we all you know live and learn
01:19:17.000
but the mom was the one who was constantly checking his ipad and it was her work ipad before but he had
01:19:25.020
used it because he was gonna we were gonna go to ucsb and he was gonna use it for college so he started
01:19:29.460
using it during the summer and she found your news she was looking through his ipad and and i mean we
01:19:40.260
had been already dating for maybe 11 months and i really felt like super locked in we both said we
01:19:47.460
were each other's person um we were each other's first you know we did we were kind of waiting um but
01:19:53.620
we just waited for i guess one another and i feel like we had a good um basis of a friendship
01:19:58.760
beforehand too so i feel like yeah like i felt that he was the one um so i was really really you know
01:20:05.520
i guess open to like i'm not i'm gonna please my man you know and if he wants pictures then i'm gonna
01:20:09.800
send it to him and she saw them and i was like i just got a call um i was with my best friend that day
01:20:16.520
and i just got a call from my boyfriend saying like or for my ex like grace like you need to you
01:20:23.580
need to like just not be on your phone right now like like my mom's really mad at me like i'm sorry
01:20:27.660
this is like the only call i'm gonna give you right now um probably until like the rest of the week and
01:20:31.980
i was like i was like what the heck like you just caught me off so guard like like what is happening
01:20:35.700
right now and i was how long in the relationship did it have did that that situation happen um like
01:20:42.460
like 11 12 months yeah we were dating for like 11 no no like that situation like the half did that
01:20:48.440
like did she find out like oh she found out the 11th month or in the middle she found out in the
01:20:53.360
middle like around the fourth month okay and okay so she allowed you guys to continue your relationship
01:20:59.140
yeah she allowed that's good yeah she did and that was we talked and that's what i was gonna go into
01:21:04.720
like we talked and i thought things were good at least you know but then like whenever i
01:21:12.440
would go over there would just be you know mean looks or you know like oh you're not allowed to
01:21:17.420
close the door in the room and like i understand that you know courtesy and rules um but at this
01:21:23.600
point we're college students and it's like i understand we're living in your house but i'm
01:21:28.020
just gonna leave like i would rather not be here and during this like two months after so during the
01:21:34.760
six months i think that's when things really started to just kind of go downhill um but we stuck with
01:21:40.700
one another and that was like the good thing you know we wanted to be there for one another
01:21:43.900
but the mom just consistently was trying to like i guess find ways um or sort of like it that's what
01:21:51.040
it felt like because i was really trying my hardest to i have a question for you yeah do you feel like
01:21:56.980
he enabled her behavior for like being a passive aggressive and like being that sort of helicopter mom
01:22:03.780
yeah and that's why i left him because because for so long i was with him and maybe once or twice
01:22:13.340
he only defended me out of you know the hundreds of arguments that we had because of his mom oh i
01:22:17.800
see and in that case it's like i'm your girlfriend and i've been here and you know like i understand
01:22:22.680
you know like that's his mother you know the motherly love is always gonna be there is this
01:22:26.460
the mommy issue guy yeah yeah this is all the same yeah this is all the same dude so about like
01:22:32.760
the hiding sex from parents were you kind of just talking about his parents or um yeah because we
01:22:38.740
okay so we had sex the first night which is kind of ironic that you guys met or no not that we met but
01:22:47.280
like our first night of um like our first date and we weren't we weren't explicitly you know a
01:22:53.900
relationship how long was the talking stage um probably like four or five months four to five
01:22:59.420
months and he finally brought you on a date well not four because we started off as friends it
01:23:04.360
started off as friends yeah and i feel like we had class together too so we were just you know being
01:23:09.680
flirty and you know like you know and then he finally and then he was like crazy fifth month he's
01:23:14.320
like i'm gonna pull out my ribs today well i was also like we were both like let me take her out
01:23:18.620
sushi no no no no she's taking him out to sushi oh no that was this the chipotle the you paid for
01:23:26.300
two two dates too yeah girl you should have never did that yeah but i mean i feel like he had he had
01:23:34.640
definitely had his first love already so i definitely wasn't his first but he was definitely mine and i
01:23:40.760
can say that because like it's he already had his first and he didn't know that he was supposed to pay
01:23:44.520
well his first like yeah right he was like oh that's so nice like no girl has ever done that
01:23:49.300
for me i was like i don't i or maybe he thought like you know the the girl that he lost his virginity
01:23:55.680
to he might have considered her oh no he he lost his virginity to me but he was literally like in
01:24:00.860
love with them in love with wait wait he lost his virginity to you yeah but you didn't you didn't
01:24:06.440
lose that no i did i we oh it was okay you said that he had his first love already yeah without like
01:24:12.920
low-key because i mean who was he in love without he was in love with his his situation
01:24:18.260
wait he didn't shag her what he didn't shag her no he didn't i mean i feel like that's just young
01:24:23.060
how can you fall in love with someone you don't know what being in love is that's so true that's so
01:24:28.000
true but i feel like in the context in which we were like dating i just or maybe i don't know
01:24:34.440
i that was also my first you know long-term relationship and you know like i said like i wanted
01:24:39.580
to provide for him because i really did like him and was the sex good though yeah it was i feel
01:24:45.000
like that's also i couldn't leave but it's okay did did he have a father as well yes he did and
01:24:51.800
honestly i really did his his dad was he treated me super well um and like after in the sixth month
01:24:59.500
actually too she said that i was not allowed ever again in the home and so she didn't support your
01:25:06.080
relationship she did not the dad did the dad did he have a good relationship with his dad
01:25:10.200
yeah honestly he had a pretty good relationship with his dad um and the one who he would bump heads
01:25:17.160
with most was his mom were they married or divorced um they're married okay cool yeah i'm gonna shift
01:25:23.900
gears here a little bit we're gonna get andrew called in in about five ten minutes we're gonna do
01:25:28.400
two things we're gonna do the bumble segment and then we're going to do the uh yeah we're gonna do
01:25:35.220
this reddit thing uh so there's a reddit question that's kind of this is a bit more light fun question
01:25:42.240
nick go ahead pull it up all right what is the worst thing someone has said to you during sex
01:25:47.520
um so i'm gonna read this reddit submission and then you guys can start thinking about so actually
01:25:54.220
you want me to read the like the whole highlighted yeah the whole yellow part
01:26:01.540
okay not me but an old friend of mine really quiet soft-spoken polite guy wait nick scroll up
01:26:11.240
scroll up please please please nick scroll up scroll up scroll up scroll up scroll up here i just like
01:26:17.040
try to show it as she's reading it okay go ahead do you think i'm like dyslexic or something just go
01:26:23.980
ahead people read faster than you and they're going to get to the punchline before you say it
01:26:28.540
a total gentleman and a graduate student in the liberal arts also pretty inexperienced tentative
01:26:35.240
and vanilla sexually he's dating this really cool girl for maybe two months she is much kinkier in bed
01:26:42.060
she floats the idea of dirty talk and apparently likes to be objectified from time to time he's
01:26:49.000
hesitant but wants to please her and doesn't dismiss the idea outright changes the subject and figures that
01:26:56.180
they'll revisit the idea another time anyway they have sex a few days later for the first time since
01:27:02.400
the conversation really going at it doggy style and she tells him to talk dirty to her he says that he
01:27:12.740
can he can't think of anything to say so he says nothing and she then repeats the request but the second
01:27:20.340
time she is not fucking requesting but demanding it he comes up with yeah you like that fucking retard
01:27:28.960
keep going keep going he's never stuck me as one of one for embellishment so i believed him
01:27:41.520
he said that was it for sex that night although they are still together two years on now all right
01:27:49.660
so did you want me to did you know that was it yeah that was good good job cindy i'm proud of you
01:27:54.940
so the question is wait pull it pull it up one more time this guy's a legend by the way uh what is the
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worst thing someone has said to you during sex so cindy will start with you um
01:28:10.180
uh okay you gotta you put me on the spot you put me on the spot the worst thing someone said
01:28:26.880
uh sorry i really don't know it's okay we here we'll come back to you being called someone else's name
01:28:37.940
a guy what did it what was the name abby abby what about uh what about you getting called bevo
01:28:46.740
be beaver oh bevo you got it's my that's your like tiktok content creation name yeah so did it kill
01:28:55.440
the mood yeah it's just like i'm not beaver i'm brandon so yeah it's like a fan yeah it was a fan
01:29:01.600
i don't know okay but they called you probably yeah probably okay nothing for me never nothing
01:29:11.760
weird okay yeah i don't think so to be honest nothing nothing weird wait if i went mommy
01:29:16.560
yeah it would be all wrapped back wait actually this is a question i don't think i've ever asked
01:29:23.760
this on the show because i think it's actually the case for like some people i know some of you
01:29:27.920
are on the younger side you've actually never really encountered somebody who even i've heard
01:29:32.200
from girls some guys are just super quiet don't say anything or you just you don't do dirty talk
01:29:37.260
they don't do any dirty talk so i mean maybe it's just been the case that you've not even
01:29:41.240
encountered a guy who talks at all no i definitely have but i i feel like usually they just say like
01:29:48.240
the same thing like oh like they just say the same thing like what what do you mean they all say the
01:29:53.440
same shit well yeah like how do i feel and i'm just like okay like okay oh so that's was that weird
01:30:02.420
for you then it's just like i mean just do your thing you know like and then talk to me
01:30:06.440
like fuck me daddy okay uh well you're obviously virgin so yeah you did have something i'll give
01:30:17.740
you a little bit of a lifeline here i think you had a story with a six six a six foot six shrimp
01:30:25.040
kisser yeah no not shrimp kisser this guy um it was my senior year of high school on thanksgiving
01:30:31.880
break and him and i went on a date to a nice italian restaurant which he paid for um and
01:30:39.000
basically he ordered a shrimp pasta and it was like spaghetti so it was flying everywhere when he
01:30:46.180
was slurping it and the spaghetti was going everywhere like the sauce was crazy guys it was crazy crazy and
01:30:53.100
he goes to bite into the shrimp but he eats like he puts it all in his mouth and i hear a crunch
01:30:59.660
and that was the tail so i look at him and he's like um i accidentally ate the tail digs into his
01:31:06.400
mouth sets it on his plate and continues eating um and i just thought that was really interesting
01:31:12.360
because i don't know i feel like the manners could have been there and he wasn't using a napkin so he
01:31:18.380
was just going like this the whole night and then i finally had to say are you gonna use a napkin and he
01:31:23.660
was like oh yeah you're smart for that like okay didn't know that that was not something that
01:31:29.400
everyone did but yeah might make him nervous i don't think so i honestly think he was quite
01:31:35.000
confident but i mean maybe too that could be but from what i saw he was quite confident with his
01:31:40.720
meal eating and then he tried to what oh yeah so then we get into the car also i drove because he
01:31:46.520
had gotten his car taken away now i don't care if a guy doesn't have a car but as a teenager
01:31:51.660
if you get your car taken away for he got it for hot boxing before school and he got pulled over
01:31:56.760
i don't know i just think that's like not right priorities at the moment so um so i had to pick
01:32:02.160
him up and he was like in the car and we're driving back to the town that he lives in and he was like
01:32:08.340
do you want to make out and i was like oh no especially not after your shrimp but yeah is that
01:32:14.360
what you said no i didn't say that you said you said he had gross saucy shrimp mouth yes and you
01:32:20.000
freaked out it was all over his mouth that's disgusting and he wanted even after yeah that's
01:32:26.080
crazy i don't think he saw himself after but you didn't pop them in like oh you got a little
01:32:32.240
something there like i don't know i just didn't think the moment was right okay i just wasn't
01:32:36.620
having a wonderful time that's over cinder moving on to you yeah you don't have to skip me i don't
01:32:41.900
you got nothing nothing what was the question again uh what was it like uh weirdest thing somebody
01:32:47.660
said to you in bed or something worst thing um could be funny it could be honestly no but i think
01:32:54.260
there was one time where like someone got really insecure because i started laughing like in the
01:32:58.500
middle of it and he was like why are you laughing i'm like well because it fucking tickles like
01:33:02.660
tickles where well because we were using it tickles the pussy like it was like yeah where's the
01:33:12.740
tickle huh on the cliff especially like after you're like oh okay and you're using a toy okay
01:33:19.380
that's fair okay yeah the vibration yeah i could see that um anything ever not quite yet anything for
01:33:26.600
you uh cindy anything for you i got a few what's up what you got cindy
01:33:30.740
can i fill you up baby oh wait you said that or he said that he said that can i fill you up that's
01:33:39.360
quite horny though it's finished it's not that bad that's all i got that's all you got i mean i got
01:33:45.860
more but the thing that killed the mood for half these girls was when he said my card declined will
01:33:53.620
you take a check dude should never be in the mood no man should be able to ask him how's my
01:33:58.860
blank taste wait what's this in response to that thing that killed the mood for half these girls
01:34:06.680
dude should have never dude should never be in the mood okay thank you good thank you good one
01:34:13.080
uh so i i had a couple weird encounters like i had a girl um she wanted to be like and listen i'm i'm
01:34:24.920
pretty open-minded you know like if if it turns you on let's do it fuck it but it was kind of threw
01:34:29.880
me off she was like wanted to like meow and shit oh no i was like oh like but she wanted to be like
01:34:35.100
not just like meow but full-on cat shit yeah and i was like the furry or no she was she wasn't a furry
01:34:42.140
but she wanted to do like a like a legit full-on role play like cat role play so don't meow for me
01:34:47.200
baby would you also be a cat no like i like yeah i would just be what was your role how would the
01:34:52.500
owner so she would be the cat she would be the cat and like purring and like looking on you and i was
01:34:57.920
like that's all i can hear about it i don't know this was like it was like the first time too yeah like
01:35:04.140
what it was the first it was the first time too i feel like you gotta like kind of build up to that
01:35:08.760
no at least she was being her true authentic self yeah well you gotta yeah but she could have waited
01:35:13.940
though yeah and actually i would have been down but there's some other weird things like so that i
01:35:20.720
wouldn't like if you know i i'm open-minded but it definitely threw me off i'm crying yeah she's
01:35:29.520
like spazzing out too so anyways um trying to think if there's anything else that weird shit that
01:35:33.560
happened uh girl told me like punch her in the face but i didn't do that oh what yeah she wanted to
01:35:38.480
like a lot of people like violence she wanted money some people really like the violence like
01:35:42.980
like i was like i feel like a little choke is okay no she's like hit me in the fucking face i'm like
01:35:48.120
i'm good i'm gonna pass on that do you have a word for that or for punching uh i don't know
01:35:54.800
next we call it donkey punching yeah i've heard that but uh yeah she wanted to be hit donkey punch
01:36:00.080
what the hell is that you're smashing it so not my thing we're going to uh let me see if andrew's
01:36:08.120
ready to go i think he might be i think i love the turn though all right andrew's ready we're going
01:36:15.280
to get him called in here in just a sec is this your backup while we're yes yes backup ready to go
01:36:20.660
uh so we're going to get him all set up uh yeah he's probably going to have some thoughts on some of
01:36:27.300
the things you guys have said but uh we're going to do the bumble segment do is it going to be too
01:36:32.860
complicated to do it while we're getting andrew set up okay so here i'm going to have maddie take
01:36:37.700
over for a second maddie why don't you uh why don't you ask a question
01:36:44.960
um so we have one virgin at the table right is anybody else a virgin
01:36:58.500
no but i want to be i'm not gonna really disclose what's everybody's body count i guess we could start
01:37:06.560
with the man at the table if you're wanting to share
01:37:09.420
i don't i don't keep count lost count what about like a ballpark yeah ballpark range
01:37:19.040
ah with would you say like triple digits no no don't be stupid no no not triple we're below 20
01:37:25.680
that's all below 20 below 20 yeah okay i guess we'll just go that way
01:37:30.940
no comment range above one less than 30 okay less than 30
01:37:40.180
um no comment as well double digits double digits yeah okay yeah no comment no comment but single
01:37:51.560
digits yeah well she's a virgin yeah i'm not gonna be talking about my nothing about that sorry
01:37:58.120
you can give a range if you want to nothing say like below 10 no it's just nothing yeah
01:38:08.800
that's real though that's good that's real uh andrew can hear us
01:38:22.800
yo andrew welcome welcome good to have you uh joining us here so i'm sorry uh sorry to the
01:38:31.600
audience that i'm late i had some family business i had to attend so um appreciate you letting me
01:38:37.520
sneak back in the panel though a little better late than never right yeah well thank you for uh
01:38:41.400
making it man hope everything uh worked out okay so uh andrew uh really quick since you're just
01:38:47.280
joining us now you want to give us a quick introduction yeah my name is andrew wilson i'm
01:38:52.460
the host of the crucible fastest growing debate channel on the internet i'm a political satirist
01:38:57.780
and i'm also a political analyst and i also do um political debates um i guess semi-professionally
01:39:06.000
for a living at this point so that's who i am all right good to have you uh joining us andrew
01:39:12.120
and uh i'm trying to think where we start off i think the first point i wanted to uh start off
01:39:19.040
is uh cindy so cindy um she uh she's christian you're christian right cindy yes i am now she claims
01:39:29.200
on the her previous appearance uh you had a did you dress up too were you dressed up in a costume
01:39:36.640
no i'm trying to remember it was just the tattoo right you had the fake tattoo yeah so andrew cindy
01:39:44.200
had and she frequently wears a cross uh although not today it was broken actually let me let me
01:39:51.840
check your instagram really quick but while i was making content it broke it broke apart the
01:39:56.300
sorry andrew could you repeat the question yeah what what kind of content were you making
01:40:05.100
i was just making um regular you know broke their content nick could you pull up cindy's
01:40:14.460
instagram really quick and you also last show andrew she was trolling us she got this like
01:40:21.960
terrible fake black tattoo uh cross it wasn't real yeah you'd lasered it off in like two months
01:40:29.760
she had a giant cross that actually nick why don't you pull up that instagram i'm gonna find that one
01:40:34.640
for you and you can uh you got the insta we're also going to find i'm gonna find the actual episode
01:40:42.020
so i can actually show you the hold on it was i think that was the first appearance with
01:40:51.240
brie was the one yeah this is the one i'm gonna send it to you in the private chat okay nick
01:40:57.520
just so andrew can see it first we're gonna look at her instagram nick if you pull up her instagram
01:41:05.440
so for the those who don't know andrew is a uh you bad girl right that's fine it's fine there uh so
01:41:19.320
andrew's an orthodox christian now cindy you do orthodox well i'll let andrew answer that but
01:41:26.280
in your instagram and it says god first you wear you frequently wear your in your profile picture
01:41:33.040
you have a cross on you frequently wear a cross uh and then just below it is a link
01:41:40.320
to your website which then goes off and links to your only fans where you produce pornographic
01:41:47.940
content uh andrew had some thoughts on this both on the fact that you wear a cross that you're linking
01:41:53.360
to pornographic content in your bio and just above it it says god first and then uh the whole fake
01:42:00.540
cross on your neck thing uh oh really quick actually so there's three things there for you to react to
01:42:05.980
andrew nick could you pull up the uh the video and just scrub to a point visible in the stream where
01:42:14.960
uh you don't have to play it we can just do a paused screen grab where it's like more so uh visible from
01:42:23.520
cindy probably during the intros or something while we're waiting for that guys like the video for
01:42:34.700
if you're watching on youtube drop us a like and then twitch.tv slash whatever if you're watching
01:42:40.320
on twitch drops follow on twitch yeah all right so it's a little hard to see here there it goes there's
01:42:48.240
uh uh so you got this terrible fake cross tattooed on your neck uh right right on the throat yeah right
01:43:00.000
on the throat okay didn't you make some statements about like throat goat i give good head she gives
01:43:06.960
good head period do you give good head uh what do you mean do you give good head lucky lucky sluffy
01:43:14.720
toppy oh i thought you're trying to like insinuate like i'm s-ing the d no i uh i don't do that at all
01:43:21.900
oh you don't use good head do you want the whole world to know that yeah i've said it multiple times
01:43:27.120
on the show there's better ways to make a girl come to be honest so you don't want to give head
01:43:32.480
no i don't do it but my if i mean if we're getting into sexual conversation uh yeah i want i'm going
01:43:37.520
to make my girl come before me and preferably multiple times but i'm not doing i'm not a fan
01:43:42.000
of giving head cheers to that why yeah boy okay well hold on you're deflecting a little bit here cindy
01:43:50.400
i can get into that later i think andrew's curious to learn a bit more about um
01:43:55.760
the cross your thoughts yeah so yeah so just kind of dive in what was the deal with the cross on the
01:44:05.200
throat because i had wore a cross necklace on my throat and the tat the fake tattoo the black tattoo
01:44:14.080
yeah i wanted to get a cross tattoo so i was like you know seeing what it would look like
01:44:23.120
i didn't like it so i got rid of it oh okay okay well i'm just i'm just i'm just trying to figure this
01:44:30.800
out right so i just joined so just bear with me i'm just trying to kind of kind of under like
01:44:36.080
understand the mindset and this type of thing so uh you do identify yourself as a as a christian
01:44:42.240
that is correct right yeah i love god okay okay and what what kind of christian what uh denomination
01:44:50.000
do you know you're just non-denominational maybe i love god so not so no denomination like you don't
01:44:59.760
belong to an official church what's your what's your definition of the denomination andrew you belong
01:45:05.920
to a certain certain sect of church so like maybe you're a calvinist or maybe you're a baptist
01:45:12.160
uh yeah i actually was um baptized at saint baptist church you were baptized at saint baptist church
01:45:21.840
yes i was saint baptist um i have to like really go and like ask someone like what church i got baptized
01:45:33.040
is that like saint baptist the second perhaps saint baptist the third i'm not really familiar like
01:45:41.920
the first second third yeah no i can understand i can understand that yeah yeah so so i just i just
01:45:48.640
have a quick question i think i do remember the episode so in this episode brian asked you
01:45:52.960
if i remember correctly if um if god wanted you to do only fans then what would satan want you to do
01:46:03.600
to stop doing only fans so see do you think that satan would want you to stop
01:46:10.800
doing only fans that son of a bitch well i think the original answer the question was
01:46:15.760
i forgot exactly the framing of the question i mean that's fine right so i mean do you think
01:46:21.280
though that satan is the one who would want you to stop doing only fans yeah no she said originally
01:46:29.280
god wants her to be doing only fans and then and satan would be the one who wanted her to stop doing
01:46:35.440
only fans to tell yeah that's what she just said now she just said the same thing she said satan would
01:46:39.840
want her to stop doing only fans no she wait hold on yes sorry sorry i'm getting okay go ahead go
01:46:46.160
ahead yeah wait it's all good brian it's all good wait andrew discombobulated today yeah it's it's it's
01:46:52.080
been a hectic day wait andrew are you able to tune up the light a little bit on your camera or is it
01:46:58.080
too much yeah i can tune it up a little bit okay uh go ahead cindy there you go so yeah so um
01:47:04.800
um so so you think that satan would prefer that you um that you gave up the old only fans
01:47:13.040
yes he would tell me he would tell me to stop yeah why do you think he'd want you to stop
01:47:21.200
because i love making i love making sexual content and money yeah yeah that i mean that makes sense so
01:47:30.960
you think that god would his preference would be that you continued to make sexual content on your
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only fans and in order to keep the devil away right the the devil is the one who would have the
01:47:44.400
preference that uh that you stopped making the self-indulgent sexual content that you're making
01:47:50.240
i just want to make sure i got this clear yes he wants me to do it i want you yes yeah do you have
01:47:57.760
visions does has god come to you in a dream and told you perhaps that i talked to him and he tells
01:48:02.960
me yes keep doing what you do it's great where are you talking like girls talk speaking like people
01:48:09.440
around us like i get that if you are a good like real christian that can be a part of your platform
01:48:14.640
but if it's a joke it's like it's a respect thing you know
01:48:20.400
i've said my piece i have respect you're talking to god for my religion
01:48:24.400
yeah i'm just curious how do you know you're talking to god right
01:48:29.920
are you convicted by the holy spirit my relationship with god is different from your
01:48:36.160
relationship because for different people yeah for different people that's very valid
01:48:41.760
but it's like it comes to it comes to the fact that it's like you so it's a respect thing at the
01:48:47.600
end of the day and like yeah people's relationships with god are different but seeing it in like in an
01:48:53.680
overall look you know how it comes across you know no i don't do you because earlier you were
01:49:00.480
talking about how um you you you would want like sex reserved for marriage right i was i did not say
01:49:10.160
that i did not say i thought we were clarifying at the beginning well i was just curious if you don't
01:49:15.120
mind if i just quickly finish my inquiry uh before we go over to the to the rest of the table if you
01:49:19.360
don't if you don't mind yeah go ahead andrew thank you thank you i appreciate it so does god
01:49:24.160
want you to stick a dick in your mouth is that what god wants you to do when you talk to god does he
01:49:29.040
say gobble up that dick is that what he says if it's like a guy that i like and i end up partaking
01:49:38.400
sexual yeah the like the guy that like my boyfriend my god tell you to do gang bangs
01:49:44.240
so like privately hey it's mike davis god first put mike davis first god may or may not love you
01:49:53.680
but with mike davis you're gonna win 100 of the time wait hold on i gotta give a quick i'll let you get
01:49:59.200
back to it andrew but i gotta give a quick quick shout out to mike davis we haven't seen him in a while
01:50:04.400
yo md thank you uh good to see you in the chat dude right i hope the burger king restaurants are
01:50:09.040
doing good for you man over there on the east coast appreciate seeing you back on the show you're a
01:50:13.280
fucking legend dude and uh you're always welcome here at whatever i i wish there he is there's the
01:50:18.720
fucking mike there he is can we get it give me some give me some give me some food zoom in on that
01:50:24.960
zoom in on this fucking legend's face okay remember cindy look at that's not mike oh that's mike
01:50:30.160
that's mike davis he owns like he owns like over a hundred burger kings on the east coast
01:50:37.280
hi mike oh shoot wait you're trying to oh no hey yo mike you got you got some prospects right
01:50:43.840
you got a prospect what about you you like him that's unc unc what is
01:50:48.800
what is uncle uncle but mike i mean he can give me some free burgers no but is he only handsome
01:50:55.120
because he owns 100 chains he's a good looking guy you know so anyways thank you mike davis uh go
01:51:02.400
ahead andrew please by the way mike i just had burger king this afternoon so keep up keep up the
01:51:10.320
the good work i have noticed that the onion rings are going downhill i'm just i'm just letting you know
01:51:14.720
you're like you probably know that though because you're a franchise owner but anyway so back to this
01:51:19.120
i just was curious does god want you to engage in gang bangs as he told you when you were dreaming
01:51:24.160
for instance and you had a conversation with god did he say thou must have go with and get gang bangeth
01:51:30.320
that did did that conversation happen do you think yeah no no but so what out of the conversations
01:51:38.800
where god tells you that you must have sex with strangers for money how does that occur can you kind
01:51:43.520
of like give us an overview of how god frames his you need to have sex with men for money conversations
01:51:49.920
with you i'd like to hear about it what is your definition of making money with men
01:51:59.040
you have i'm guessing that you have sexual intercourse with men for the purpose of collecting
01:52:04.400
some type of cash right right okay so that would be my definition you're right so yeah so what is so what
01:52:11.920
is god so how does a conversation with god go can you like give us a brief overview
01:52:16.320
well i don't really tell him anything like about my sexual i just tell him like that i'm blessed with
01:52:22.880
the job that i have and you know i appreciate everything he's already given to me and i thought
01:52:30.000
you said god wants you to do this and you've had conversations with him yeah like with like only
01:52:34.960
fans especially like that's like my work i have to continue conversations with god about your only
01:52:42.320
fans yeah to prosper and attract abundance and growth with my business yes so yeah just to make
01:52:51.360
sure that i'm clear you when you speak to whoever this god is that you're speaking to you don't
01:52:56.480
jesus christ what's that jesus christ jesus christ wants you to do only fans work
01:53:03.360
yeah just just so that we're clear yes yeah well let me ask you this i'm just out of curiosity
01:53:12.800
if a man offered you a hundred thousand dollars to sell your soul on a piece of paper to him would
01:53:18.640
you do it yes yeah i thought yeah i thought that you might i feel like you're going you're going
01:53:25.280
against your whole thing then that's literally going against oh you're talking to god for i think
01:53:30.320
that i think that ever since i moved to la i've sold my soul oh so don't don't don't don't put god
01:53:37.520
in whatever you're doing if you've sold your soul you know it's like a are you at peace with
01:53:42.320
yourself yes i'm finding peace within myself every day who do you think you sold your soul to
01:53:51.040
baby it's not god to myself you sold your soul to yourself how much did you pay yourself for your own
01:53:58.160
soul was it cheap or did you it was definitely not a bunch of money i've spent a lot of money on
01:54:05.040
myself yes yeah so you charge yourself a lot of money for your own soul so you sold your soul to you
01:54:11.920
okay got it so but if a man you know something like i don't know only fans bomb simp uh offered up
01:54:20.880
like a hundred thousand dollars to you to sell your soul to him you would do that right
01:54:28.720
yeah why not that's uh that's uh now what if as part of the contractual deal he says
01:54:33.920
your soul is actually going that's a will would you would you still do it
01:54:40.240
did he say a hundred thousand yeah you're selling your whole existence for a hundred thousand
01:54:45.600
what did you say yeah so it was my question was what if an entailment of the contract meaning
01:54:52.800
inside of the contract he wrote and by the way i'm going to then barter your soul with the devil
01:54:58.400
would you still sign the contract for a hundred thousand okay how much are we talking about
01:55:06.480
how much is it how much is it one person at a time hundred thousand dollars that's not enough
01:55:19.360
okay 250 000 that's not enough okay how much more like in the millions so for two million dollars
01:55:27.920
you'd sell your soul to the devil no not two million higher how much it's just higher
01:55:36.480
15 million more 30 million more okay 100 million final offer more in a conversation in
01:55:45.360
itself is showing that i don't know how much more it is so name me i mean i know that you're probably
01:55:50.240
used to saying the word more when you're on camera but i would still like it and would appreciate it if
01:55:58.240
are you talking to god right now i need to like making rich guy donated two hundred dollars thank
01:56:13.200
you for pushing back against andrew i would not be able to have so many side chicks on rotation if
01:56:19.200
women like you didn't co-sign the lines that i tell them you are helping us rich guys get laid
01:56:24.720
what was he talking to or about this was like in the beginning oh i wouldn't pay for the date
01:56:37.840
so he's telling you like at what price would you sell your soul to the devil um what price yeah
01:56:44.480
there's really like because like the price is like endless do you know what i mean
01:56:49.600
yeah the price is really endless so you would um i'll do it i'll do it for the right price that's
01:56:58.000
all i could i could say to you yeah that makes sense that makes sense so when you have your
01:57:02.960
conversation with god later and thank him for all the prosperity of giving you money so that you get
01:57:07.840
plowed by random men on the internet uh are you going to let him know that you also for the right price
01:57:13.120
or willing to sell your soul to the devil i just want to just want to make i would say maybe like
01:57:17.440
10 million a year oh yeah that makes sense i could see that i mean i would say like uh there's probably
01:57:24.080
bands which have sold their soul for less than 10 million a year i mean that seems like a reasonable
01:57:28.080
price right yeah actually make it 12 so i want to make one million every month i mean it's the devil
01:57:35.280
the devil can afford 12 million a year for your soul right yeah but the thing is is i got to ask
01:57:41.040
why would he give you a dime considering you already did that like what what do you have to
01:57:47.600
negotiate with uh my fans will buy it oh okay well that makes my subs won't be going up the resub is
01:57:55.840
going crazy makes sense all right that's all i had i just uh just was curious why do you feel the
01:58:03.520
need to bring god into like be saying hey like i'm doing only fans because god told me so why can't
01:58:10.160
you just accept like hey i want to do only fans because i wanted to do only fans why why bring
01:58:15.600
religion into this right honestly it all started on the first podcast but i believe in god it's in
01:58:24.560
my bio it sells more probably than it it has a lot of controversy with that topic and i get a lot of
01:58:33.200
hate and i love it so it's like i feel like it's all it's at the end of the day it's like it's my
01:58:39.920
religion it's who i pray every day so i feel like you can believe that's who i worship and like understand
01:58:47.520
that they're like if you believe it there is a higher power and stuff but so like obviously like
01:58:52.960
yeah you like god but i don't know if like making like the trade-off with the devil would like best like
01:59:01.520
be in your interest for the fact that you enjoy god because it's like yeah you can choose to just
01:59:07.680
not believe in god anymore but if you're gonna devote yourself to god which is like what you're
01:59:12.000
saying then i don't know if like if like that's the best thing for like god looking down on you being
01:59:17.520
like oh cindy doesn't cindy thinks that there's other options now besides me and she wants to get
01:59:23.280
rid of me as an option it's like dating if like that's not what i think what what do you mean when you
01:59:29.280
say you love god i think about him every day so you have a relation i have an actual relationship
01:59:36.240
with him that's wonderful and i think of other people in my life like family and friends okay that
01:59:43.040
um i also like evolve okay my life with him and yeah so you would equate it to like the way you love
01:59:56.320
your mom or your dad or your you know your sibling or something like that there's no greater love than
02:00:01.680
that i mean like that like clearly like it's different when it's like family and friends
02:00:15.360
i want to have that like relation that you know like i when i first wake up in the morning i think
02:00:20.720
of him and when i go to sleep at night i think of him and just continue growing that relationship like
02:00:28.400
any other relationship that's in my life just like general revelation and speaking to him
02:00:39.680
used to have bibles because i went to confirmation school oh you so you grew up like yeah i had friends
02:00:45.680
in like elementary that was that you went to confirmation school at just to be clear saint
02:00:51.600
baptist church correct saint bapt yeah saint baptist yeah saint baptist okay yeah typically would be
02:00:59.440
catholic but it's it's uh me i'm sure you went to some sort of sunday school that totally makes sense
02:01:05.680
yeah i went to catholic and learn i try to like learn about the history and i made friends i
02:01:12.640
uh went to like servings like the wine and like the the bread the bread so what do you do today in
02:01:24.960
your present life that you that you would say yeah that you serve god in that way or what steps would
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you want to take to progress your bond with god i would say that my family is also a believer of god so
02:01:39.600
that brings me pretty close as as close as it can be do they know that you do only fans yes how do
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they feel about that they feel amazing that i'm doing something that i love wait your your family feels
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amazing that you're doing that i'm doing something that i love yeah wait do you love it i love it i do
02:02:04.560
every day so i have a you know i have a strong passion if you didn't make your parents were liches
02:02:10.640
i just said that yeah oh yeah yeah so when you tell your dad that strain you have sex with men for
02:02:16.400
money uh is he is he highly supportive or no yeah yeah he says good job does he give you a nice pat on
02:02:25.600
the head and say go get stuff for that cash girl is that what your highly religious father says i'm just
02:02:32.960
curious i'm just curious i'm like i'm just curious honestly i want to know does he say good job
02:02:37.040
sweetheart i'm glad you're taking a stranger's peen in order to make that money just as god intended
02:02:44.000
does is that does he get does he say something like that to you no not exactly what you are trying
02:02:50.880
to describe he would say but i would say he is supportive oh well i got a question you said that you love
02:02:59.360
doing you love doing only fans oh you can do split nick so you love doing only fans
02:03:07.840
right i love it but would you do it if you weren't making money
02:03:12.800
if i wasn't doing if i wasn't making money on only fans like let's say like would you produce the
02:03:18.080
kind of content that you're producing would you make it shoot it etc for what well like for example an
02:03:24.800
artist right for just an artist could make minimal or no money but they love painting or drawing and
02:03:32.160
they don't do it for money right so you said that you love doing of f do you love it like would you
02:03:43.840
drop that in yeah girl was wasn't it going to the camera i wasn't really making money in the
02:03:52.720
beginning like before i started like oh like i was just posting like hot pictures that well yeah
02:04:00.960
you gotta build up your audience but it was like that was like not but i assume it was with the intention
02:04:05.840
of one day it being profitable like most content creators they don't start out just making money
02:04:10.960
yeah but they're doing it one perhaps you know with the intention of it one day being profitable
02:04:16.480
same with businesses businesses aren't immediately profitable but you do it because one day it will be
02:04:22.480
or you hope it will be you can make art profitable if you want it to be sure that's what i'm saying but
02:04:30.320
there's plenty of people who engage in things they love for example creating art without getting profit
02:04:37.200
making money which i was doing before so i would yeah definitely do it after okay you wanted to
02:04:46.320
yeah no just saying like understand that again i know like back in england girls go through their
02:04:52.080
slaggy stage as they want to say so again like if you're going through that stage and you want to
02:04:56.800
earn money like why not be on only fans but why not take advantage of again i was a big gamer back in
02:05:02.320
the day when i was a bit uglier like if someone told me if someone told me to uh that stream gaming
02:05:08.480
and you're gonna get paid why not if a girl loves having sex and she's gonna get paid why not if i've
02:05:13.920
got paid to have sex which i do why not yeah why not let's get it well let's let us get into this
02:05:19.440
adam and eve loved it when they were reproducing so why not it's yeah well let me uh let me ask you
02:05:24.720
something if somebody says that they follow christian ethics in jesus christ do you think that jesus
02:05:31.120
christ would want them to be a prostitute can i just get a yes or no from you from there no of
02:05:36.880
course not donated two hundred dollars yeah andrew this vapid three hundred and four just needs some
02:05:44.880
truth in love and some nice talk maybe a female pastor and a nice new t-shirt or maybe she is going
02:05:52.400
to hell until she understands her sins and repents leave nala 2.0 alone now back to where we were at here
02:05:59.920
i'm just asking you if you don't mind um of course not is the answer right so the answer would be no
02:06:06.560
so you've given your own reason for why probably a person who expresses that um they follow jesus christ
02:06:15.920
probably should not do pornography right isn't that just being a slave to your religion
02:06:20.400
you should but the thing is like even if she has done pornography she's not going to be like
02:06:26.000
let me answer this question cindy let me hang on relax relax uh as opposed to being a slave to your lust
02:06:32.320
so what sorry as opposed to being a slave to your lust or as opposed to being a slave for the material
02:06:37.520
i would say that it's actually uh the opposite of enslavement to reject materialism and and dishonoring
02:06:44.080
your own body for the purpose of material gain um do you do you think that people who do that are
02:06:50.400
honorable do you consider that to be an honorable profession again i'm an atheist but like to me
02:06:56.400
god is money so like if if you've got no money you can't do nothing in this world and if you want to
02:07:01.360
make the money why can't you do anything in this world without money because you'll be homeless you
02:07:05.920
won't eat you won't drink there ain't gonna be some magic man there ain't gonna be a magic god gonna
02:07:09.840
feed me do you know i mean i need to make money and i need to make it now how much money do you need
02:07:13.840
to make i just need to make money yeah but how much oh they don't matter how much i need to make money
02:07:18.640
i need to pay bills i need to look at what you're talking about is a distinction between the ends and
02:07:22.880
means so if you say that you need to have the means because the end is something noble like having
02:07:28.320
a family having a house uh having things for which you can provide for the people around you
02:07:33.360
provide yes there's no there's no hang on let me finish hang on then yes there's nothing evil about
02:07:39.200
that that is a means to a just end but if you're just chasing money for the end itself that would
02:07:46.800
be evil that would be an embrace of pure materialism and hedonism why would that be good why would that
02:07:52.800
be the that that would be enslavement you would be enslaving yourself to the material no definitely not
02:07:57.760
i'd rather be in burberry definitely sorry how would you not be a slave to the material all you did
02:08:02.720
was focus on money as an end in and of itself that would be true enslavement it's just not
02:08:08.960
though is it yeah no it just is though isn't it it's just not i i know it just is though
02:08:16.560
it just isn't though is not an argument though just so you know boring i'll be honest but yeah
02:08:21.840
i'll let you carry on it's fine i just think that even if someone wants to get into prostitution it's
02:08:28.240
like it's not the end of the world like they can still like pray and think of god and have a
02:08:32.560
relationship yeah but don't love everyone don't connect it's not like the end of the world like
02:08:37.120
you're making it sound like like as soon as she watches pornography it's like murder if they choose
02:08:42.720
to because god will forgive or something like she turns into dust as soon as she watched that's not
02:08:48.720
what he's saying i feel like the problem is that you're connecting the the act itself with god and
02:08:53.200
you're trying to justify it when there's no justification at all and we're not no one's bashing you for the
02:08:58.560
act but it's the connection that you're trying to make and justify it when it doesn't make sense
02:09:02.960
you doing um of if there's like me personally i see nothing wrong with it i'm not agreeing with how
02:09:09.360
you're using god's name to glorify something that in god's definition shouldn't be glorified at all
02:09:16.800
your response cindy so i don't agree with that because like what it's like to justify like you don't
02:09:23.760
know anything it means to have a grounded foundation for a belief that's what justification
02:09:30.000
is a grounded foundation for a belief a thing which you appeal to for the grounding of the foundation
02:09:35.040
of a belief that's what justification is okay so i enjoy my job and if someone has an opinion on it
02:09:47.360
why do i why should i care about their opinion can i chime in well it's not it's not it's not actually a
02:09:52.960
matter of you caring about their opinion so you you were asking what is justification justification
02:09:58.560
would be a grounding for belief meaning something you would appeal to in this case just appealing to
02:10:03.440
you you say because i want to do it it's good because i want it it's good that's it that's your whole
02:10:09.440
appeal just appealing to you for you right brian that's all that matters as long as you're happy
02:10:16.480
healthy and you have loving people around you that's all that matters why is your happiness the
02:10:21.200
only thing that matters like for instance why is the happiness that's the only thing that matters
02:10:25.680
like do you want me to be emo and sad and just like sit at home well for instance if you're a mother of
02:10:31.520
a child if you're a mother of a child i could see we're getting up at two o'clock in the morning to
02:10:35.920
feed the child could make you unhappy okay but that's your baby you're a mother that's right so i guess you
02:10:42.960
have higher duties than just your own happiness don't you but what about a subs happiness what's
02:10:49.840
that what the people consume and the content it'll make them happy because she's not sending yeah okay
02:10:56.320
but i need you to think about what you're saying here right but then again it's possible yeah yeah i
02:11:00.800
can answer people also send nudes to the partner or whoever else for free so is that not wrong morally
02:11:10.240
by god is it morally wrong for the guys that send dick pics in my dms every single day yeah it is but
02:11:17.680
no one's saying that it's not that's the problem we're just accepting that it's a sin and that god
02:11:22.480
like wouldn't like it so you're saying yeah yeah so they're horrible and you're horrible both of you
02:11:28.960
are both of them see what i mean it's not it's not either or it's not a bifurcation they suck and you
02:11:35.840
suck both both it's both and they're immoral bastards and you're immoral he's right it's not
02:11:43.120
it's not because they just like want someone to talk to and i'm here i'm here dylan lolly donated
02:11:50.000
two hundred dollars sorry i'm late tonight god forgives when you live in his word degenerates
02:11:57.040
like yala why sodom and gomorrah burned god is love and wrath damn i'll agree with what he said
02:12:04.960
no i agree with what he said with the god forgive god forgives when you live in his word yeah you can
02:12:09.520
use god you can use god forgives as your argument behind what you're doing but with how you're living
02:12:14.400
in the line you're leading there's nothing like that really i'm sorry but like how do you know
02:12:21.120
like the life that i live you just told us because god tells you that being i didn't i told you god
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says being prostitute bad so god says being prostitute bad and then you do the thing god says is bad
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that means you're doing a bad thing which means you're bad so do you think what if i want to be a bad
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girl that's fine you can you can be a bad girl without you're being but let's not pretend that when
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you put a cross on your throat to garble a dick online in order to make it a little extra bad girlish
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that you're following jesus christ it's insane i still follow i mean it can be seen as offensive
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like when people wear like the sexy nun costumes for halloween yeah so that's like what we're trying
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to say is like when you put god into something that's like it becomes fetishized which is interesting
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and if you truly connected and you knew god's path and what he wanted his followers to be like then
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you would know that what you're doing has no connection to him but you can still believe in
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you can definitely still believe in god but don't connect the act of what you're doing with god
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and try to gain off of that and say that it's justifiable in his eyes when it clearly isn't and
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you can make that your argument with your brand but just know that isn't it isn't right we're gonna
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read to each his own we're gonna read two chats and then we're gonna move on to something else we have
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darren jones cindy i'm being sincere here i want you to explain on the show how participating in only
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fans is glorifying god do you want to give us a quick answer on that cindy i love what i'm doing and i
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love talking to new people so but i think i'm going towards god's favor it glorifies god because
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it makes me happy here anybody who really connects with god will know that a relationship with god
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isn't always i i i you have to give also what are you giving in that what is that relationship like
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how can you explain that relationship with you and god but it's i'm happy that's not a relationship you
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have to surrender to him you have to surrender to god for it to be well i'm not okay just
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i'm also making the other person happy so it's like a win-win for are you making god you're making
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the other person satisfied that doesn't make them happy it's not bringing them joy they are happy you
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might be satisfied they are we have like a relationship i mean through different things
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talking to each other and so that makes them happy the guy for like what like when i send like
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videos like hi good morning i am for a sliver of a moment that makes them happy happy to see my face
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here we have one chat here we have minus 100 dude i'm looking at cindy's of now and i can't even find
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any nudity here she's wearing lingerie wet t-shirt here and there but no nudity stop dunking on this
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pure soul of saint baptist church andrew likes that one um thank you minus underscore 100 for the
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hundred dollars donation wait we can't hear you laughing andrew oh do you have to push to talk
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yeah i just uh well i didn't want to interrupt the show oh that's all good now uh
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forget the great followers of saint baptist church they see you as a true light i'm crying
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now i wanted to because i think andrew might find like your guys's relationship dynamic pretty
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interesting i mean i think it's true though you should subscribe and you'll see no we're good
02:15:46.560
um so anyways you'll see what about like girls who do only fans but not not explicit do you still think
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that's wrong not did you say not explicit yeah so like lingerie pictures bikini pictures
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conversations well so the the point is is that you're moving towards sexual vice
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right and sexual sin so well hang on if you'll humor me i'll answer the question
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so just just hang tight i'll answer the question i'll let you respond so um yes if you're if you're
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selling sex or sexual provocation with intent to do this so in other words there are men who could
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sexualize you absent your intent there's nothing you can do about that but if your intentionality
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is to sell sex and in some way then um yeah that would uh definitely go against christian ethics for
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sure that would be prostitution from the christian standpoint what even if there's no sexual
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intercourse on the page yeah that would be harlot behavior so we would consider those
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prostitution we would consider those ladies of the night or prostitutes in other words if you sell
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sex for money you by our definition would be prostitutes it's not sex that you sell in
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what are you selling like lingerie pictures but that can arguably be models so is every victoria
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secret model and every vo avenues model it's intense selling sex for money yeah i would say that they're
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all engaging in some form of prostitution yeah so you think models are prostitutes i think that women
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who sell pictures on purpose which are sexually provocative or engaging in prostitution yes but
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what if like it's just a girl with a bit cleavage out on instagram is that still this is why intent
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matters what is the intent is he is the intent for instance that she just has really big knockers and
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can't help that you know shirts don't fit her that's an entirely different thing than hey look at my boobs
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aren't they great send me money that would be prostitution so what what's the intent is
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stop cindy stop stop stop wait so like what what's your reaction here what i don't know you seem to
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have a reaction to what he's saying go ahead oh no well no i don't have no reaction oh i don't know
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you just i thought there was something can you can you define prostitution yeah the uh intent to sell
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your body in some way in a sexual way for money that's getting shagged for money that's what
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prostitution is yeah prove it why should i why should i adhere to that standard definition other
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than you want me to that's right that's the definition not right that's wrong you choose
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what you're doing you're what you're doing is a classic mott and bailey and it's uh it's very low
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tier in fact um you're trying to explain that there's some type of delineation between selling
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your vagina to be penetrated versus selling your vagina to not be penetrated though the effect is
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the same you're still selling sex for money i feel like prostitution has like a big umbrella term
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and a lot of people just try to make things seem as it's not so like not everything is sex with like
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what you want to call prostitution but okay so let me ask you this would you say for instance that um
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um uh being a stripper would that be considered prostitution by your metric no no no do strippers
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give lap dances yes and as a result of the lap dances do some many jackulate but then at the same
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time answer my question i mean i would assume do some many jackulate based on the lap dances are they
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getting the lap dance because they don't want to get a hard on or are they getting the lap dance because
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they do yeah men can get a hard on from counting from 10 to one yeah but we have a distinction
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that's why we haven't what if i was just counting down then is that me hang on i'm going to explain
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i'll explain it to you i'll explain it to you the distinction is intent the strippers job is to give
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the guy a stiffy their job is to make their their uh their pecker hard right that's their job
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all the time how you can consider that to be to not be prostitution is actually the better question
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because seemingly that is selling sexual favors for money i don't know how it's not doing that
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so is this the same with like male strippers like thunder down under yes
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i think you're choosing a harsher word uh yeah it it is sex work but it using the word prostitution
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feels different for two people um but it is why should i care how they feel there's a distinction
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with no merit you should use this other word andrew because it makes them feel bad when you call them
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what they are that makes no sense to me a stripper is engaging in prostitution tell me how they're not
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no no and i agree with you but if we want people to change we're not going to get that by using harsh
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words we're going to get that oh yeah we're good by tone policing by tone policing that's how we get
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them to change don't we i don't think it's that we want them to change i think it's like more of
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like why do you guys get defensive when someone just wants to know like oh like a simple answer to a
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simple question that selling your body in any super form for money is in that gray area or like
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umbrella of prostitution because you can define it and there is it's not prostitution i just don't
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see how it's prostitute is you go on vivastreet.com and you ring them up and you say i'm coming over
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i want an hour's worth of sex and you pay here's the thing i have the definition of prostitution in
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front of me and the pro the definition that i'm looking at has this example too the selling of
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sexual favors for money yeah have you ever watched porn how is it not a sexual favor to grind your
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vagina on a man's penis in order to make it hard how's that not a sexual favor sir because usually
02:21:50.560
strippers you can't touch them in england anyway you can't touch them so what so wait so you're
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saying that if you don't touch a prostitute they only touch you they're not prostitutes anymore
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no no it's eye candy you go to strippers to look at sexy women it's just like if you watched porn or
02:22:09.040
what do strippers grind their vagina externally over a man's penis do they do that yeah yeah yeah
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they do that yeah they do that no they all do that i'm not aware of any strippers who do not do
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that what what strippers are you aware of that don't do that um ones in leeds what's that i've been
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i've been to strip clubs and i've got lap dances before but they've not actually touched or anything
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with the vaginas yeah what does that have to do with anything just because it doesn't make all of
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them it doesn't make all of them prostitutes yes it makes them all prostitutes yes if you grind your
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vagina on a man's penis for money you're engaging in a sexual favor and prostitution like what do you
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want me to say how do you get around that then if if people are sleeping with someone who's not
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their married partner it's that them being a prostitute no but what if they're committing adultery
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wait say that again i'm sorry so say you took someone out for dinner so hang on so real quick
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just so you know uh if we're going to have the exchange so that you understand because i'm remotely
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calling in when you talk into the mic and i'm talking at the same time it cuts the audio feed
02:23:26.000
on my end so what we're going to have to do is go one at a time right so you go first and then i'll go
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and then you go etc etc okay go ahead have you ever watched porn yeah so you're also a slave to
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the industry oh so if you've ever done anything that means you're a slave to it that doesn't make any
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sense but you're consuming and then judging but no i have consumed that doesn't mean that i did a
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good thing that doesn't mean that i did a righteous thing that doesn't mean i did you masturbate after
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watching that i'm not going to get into any of that it's it there's implications which are there
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hang on stop stop the implications are fine as they are you can imply what you want from it but the the
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purpose of and the point is is that me having engaged in sin would not exempt you from being
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prostitutes how would it exempt you from donated two hundred dollars saying things in a nice way is
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why whores think they are not whores cold hard facts do not care about your feelings the wages of
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sin are eternal hell so instead of being nice let's try reality yo grid one thank you man appreciate it
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um i'll know if you guys want to continue on on that yeah i want to continue if you don't mind go
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ahead yeah so so anyway i'm sorry go go ahead the floor is yours we were we were having the uh back
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and forth before the chat came in go ahead oh this is for you you guys were having no no this is this
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is yeah this is for um i'm sorry uh i didn't catch your name because i came into the show later uh you
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have a pink top sophia um sophia okay basically what we're saying is you're judging women for doing
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porn and being on the platform have you also had sexual encounters with like normal women or had a
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wank over someone who's just them or fantasized about them because then you're saying because
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someone's on a platform and you've had a wank over them but then there's someone else who's not on a
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platform but you've went to them with full clothes on this that and the other what's the difference
02:25:36.320
if you're given someone yeah i know well so the distinction is intent what is the intent yeah but
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there might not be intent on someone's part for a wank it might just be because there's there's no
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intent on a person's part if they're going to masturbate over a woman they're not intending
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really do you think you're pretending to do that i just want to make sure like if you didn't watch
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that porn you would have never had that visualization of that woman that you you just jacked off to
02:26:05.680
so this would defer to intent again wouldn't it technically did participate in it by visualizing
02:26:12.400
that woman naked so intense so you're talking about intent again yes i agree if you intend to jerk
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off over a woman then you intended to do that i agree you're wrong for judging these
02:26:22.800
women's that are confident enough to show their body so so wait so just like you to visualize and
02:26:28.720
jack off to a cum rag yeah so just just so i get this right if i smoke which i do you can clearly see
02:26:36.320
that i smoke these cigarettes here then it's not okay for me to tell my children not to smoke i just
02:26:43.360
want to make sure i got that clear is that right
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okay is that is that correct that i smoke so therefore i'm not allowed to tell my children
02:26:54.400
not to smoke like if they're three years old should i just be like and they go hey dad can i try that
02:26:59.120
and i go no am i being a hypocrite am i being hypocritical by telling junior not to have a marlboro red
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and a beer at three years old am i being a hypocrite yeah but that's legal edge so that's some three
02:27:13.040
different no it's not legal age oh the the point is yeah yeah three yeah so it's legal edge so it's
02:27:21.600
it's something else no free you're saying you're getting confused free he's saying he's three-year-old
02:27:26.240
son he's and he's three not three that's not legal age what three years old three years old yeah
02:27:32.000
that's what i'm saying it's not legal i thought you said it was i was like oh shit
02:27:35.920
who well just so you know what you're engaging right now it's got to go ahead i'm sorry i just
02:27:42.000
wanted to clarify that what you're engaging is called a a two quick quo fallacy which is you're
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essentially uh doing a but what about what about you what about you well okay yes i'm awful and
02:27:54.800
horrible and every the chief of sinners right here in front of you how that would exempt you
02:28:00.720
from what it is that you're doing though i have no idea like i don't i don't understand that it's
02:28:07.040
not it's not a great it's not a great argument so kind of back to this back to this with you i'm just
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saying i can you guys define how it would not be prostitution if a guy paid you money to grind
02:28:20.880
on his penis in order to make it uh you know do stuff how how how would that not be prostitution
02:28:29.840
well that's not her intent some people like the um the art very clearly her intent twerking twerking
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is considered an art like it's a dance form like people enjoy making shaking their big ass booty
02:28:43.360
yeah i get it but the thing is is that if you're twerking if you're like some chick who's twerking
02:28:47.760
you're dancing with some guy or something like this um he's not paying you there's no money which
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is being transacted some people but if there's money hang on hang on calm down let me finish but
02:28:59.360
if there's money being trying transacted okay uh then you would be engaging in prostitution be
02:29:05.920
sexual favors for money so shakira's backup dancers who twerk and they're getting paid to twerk are they
02:29:14.720
then prostitutes they're not twerking on someone they're just dancing their attention could get
02:29:21.120
people hard i mean but their their intentions are dancing as a backup dancer but they're not dancing
02:29:25.920
to get people hard and also if they get hard that's their yeah but there's there's there are girls that
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go to clubs that not intentionally to get them hard but they just like as a stripper like in jamaica
02:29:36.960
there's literally clubs like exactly that's not like dancing and you guys but they're still like
02:29:42.080
getting money like like guys yeah it's like ocean guys who have money they also like to go to clubs
02:29:47.760
and just throw ones throw ones down let's uh andrew because they think because they think the women
02:29:54.400
they're a bunch of homes literally they think that they're they think that's what they think they
02:29:59.040
think that they're going to spend money on a prostitute that's what they think that's why they're in clubs
02:30:04.720
throwing that money at these girls is because they think the girls have a price like you do
02:30:10.880
there's a fine line when people go it's about the attention if you go with an intention of just going
02:30:18.160
in and having fun and dancing and shaking ass then that doesn't fall into that gray area of
02:30:25.280
showing your body for money if you go into a club and you are like a go-go dancer or
02:30:30.240
there specifically to make money by shaking ass whatever showing lingerie like it's not that
02:30:37.040
hard it's common sense to know that that is let me let me shift gears here a little bit but it's uh
02:30:42.800
okay so i think it'd be interesting to hear because i mean you and andrew have had quite a bit of back
02:30:47.920
and forth um so can you just kind of reintroduce can you both reintroduce yourselves because i think
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you'd like to hear that yeah um go ahead sophia yeah oh i'll say for myself yeah no we're uh so
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we're both young and we're in an open relationship so i don't believe in god i will clarify that i've
02:31:11.280
always said that i would never be a slave to a slave to a religion um i believe god is money and
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without money i am doomed so you can believe in god and all you want but if you've got no money god
02:31:21.680
ain't gonna feed you god ain't gonna clothe you god ain't gonna be there for you you can pray as much as
02:31:25.040
you want but god isn't gonna help you i need to make money if i have to do what i've got to do to
02:31:29.920
make money i will do it okay before wait andrew before you get into that let me allow i'm not
02:31:34.960
gonna get into it i was just okay yeah yeah let me introduce it a little bit more and then sophia
02:31:40.240
you said that you were well i'm i'm sorry i forgot the term what how did you introduce yourself
02:31:45.040
um i'm known as a big slog what's that um a hall a bike a what a strumpet man these comments oh a
02:31:57.840
strumpet uh so she does you you do only fans correct yeah and yeah but i just want to make
02:32:02.960
sure i get the terminology correct i'm sorry um what what did you call yourself um slag that's a
02:32:10.560
slag slag slag is that correct yeah that's correct okay is that um is is i mean obviously i detect the
02:32:18.720
accent where you guys from uh manchester england oh england okay so in england uh slag if you were to
02:32:26.560
convert it over to my low level low tier americanese uh how would you translate slag
02:32:35.920
a hole would you go okay yeah all right sweet okay thank you because this is the reason why
02:32:43.520
because i please many men with pictures of my body and apparently that is redeemed to be
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a bad act again hold on hold on let me let me get a couple other things out here okay so
02:32:56.560
kind of and you so you do only fans yeah and then but and you guys are in an open relationship you
02:33:01.760
guys have been dating for three months and you guys do content together yes okay you do content
02:33:07.760
together and um you're in a poly open relationship where you're seeing you're dating other men romantically
02:33:14.800
and you're dating other women romantic no no it's just sexual sexually oh for for the content
02:33:19.200
sexually open for the content yes so you're not not romantically but sexually you do see other people
02:33:23.920
yes sexually and you will uh sleep with them together yes and i will marry sophia one day you're
02:33:28.880
going to marry her yes so you guys are going to get married you've been dating for three months you
02:33:32.560
guys produce only fans content what's up oh i'm sorry huh oh i said now you um
02:33:40.560
okay well hold on i'm trying i try not to talk past anybody my bad go ahead so if i'm trying to recall
02:33:46.960
correctly um but you guys are in a relationship yourselves like a romantic relationship between
02:33:54.960
each other yeah openly we sleep with other people as well but romantically we're together yes
02:34:02.080
okay so um you consider her your girlfriend but you don't consider other girls your girlfriend you
02:34:07.600
just consider other girls girls that you sleep with yes okay i just wanted to make sure so you are a
02:34:13.280
cuck uh the final cup please a cuck is a person who purposely allows their women to get fucked by
02:34:20.240
other men uh for money yeah yeah well i mean wait you wouldn't let her sleep with other men
02:34:29.920
if they weren't paying her no they're not paying her let's get that right we make content we get paid
02:34:34.560
for content so yes we involve other people because it makes more money and again that's why i allow it
02:34:41.840
again romantically yes when we're 30 years old with a child and we slow down with all the money
02:34:46.800
we've got in the bank we can live happily ever after so yes so you do let other men
02:34:51.920
fuck your woman on purpose yeah and she lets me fuck other women sure sure i i understand that yeah
02:34:57.040
but you would be a cuck correct i just don't like that saying but uh we do it i mean i'm sure you don't
02:35:03.840
but i mean that's what a cuck is is somebody who lets another band purposely
02:35:07.840
fuck their woman right that's a cuck yeah if i'm a cuck i'm a cuck yeah i don't think
02:35:12.800
angie's trying to insult you i think he's just trying to clarify it again i don't it's what it
02:35:17.680
is isn't it again we we're young um we're probably in a better position than you was when you was 23
02:35:23.040
again no fair and shade but i just don't feel like being a slave to a religion is going to get your
02:35:27.360
new end life it's good praying it's good doing your thing but i just want to live life out of money
02:35:31.840
and yeah i mean it's way better to let people fuck your old lady all self-respecting men do that
02:35:37.520
yeah but sex is just sex again i think it's like you you take money is just money yeah yeah but yeah
02:35:42.560
but money gets you money gets you places sex don't where does money get you money money does it get
02:35:47.760
you to a place where other men fuck your old lady yeah is that where it gets you yeah yeah it takes me
02:35:51.360
on flights it takes me to buy a house it takes me to buy a car it takes me to buy the jewelry i've got
02:35:57.440
on it's actually by the clothes i've got on so if i believe in god and i'm poor that's really
02:36:02.160
expensive money to allow the person that you're in love with to get dishonored by other men enjoy it
02:36:08.320
you enjoy what you okay so now we're in a different level so you enjoy the fact that your old lady gets
02:36:14.000
fucked i enjoy sex she enjoys sex other people enjoy sex so why not let's just have fun yeah so do you
02:36:19.760
enjoy the fact that she's getting humped by other men i don't enjoy it we just do it get on with it we
02:36:24.960
have fun yeah yeah all right i enjoy it yeah i do enjoy it because it's you do enjoy it yeah i enjoy
02:36:28.720
it yeah yeah do you ever watch it do you ever go do you ever watch other dudes plow your chick dude
02:36:35.120
i don't watch the videos back but in the action i'm watching yeah it's quite horny to be honest
02:36:40.160
so you you get off to it well it's horny yeah in in the act yeah if i'm sleeping with someone else
02:36:45.760
and she's sleeping with someone else and yeah it's just horny it sounds like you're the slave
02:36:50.160
sounds like i'm free and you're the slave you know what i never have to worry about
02:36:53.600
i never have to worry about another dude fucking my old lady at my behest because i'm not a slave to
02:36:59.360
my lust and i never have to worry about the fact that i can make an honorable buck because i'm not
02:37:03.920
a slave to the money either it's not like you're the slave it sounds like i'm the one who's free
02:37:10.000
no no definitely not again i was a slave when i've done my demolition i was getting up at stupid
02:37:14.960
clock getting paid stupid like bad money um and then yeah now i'm living life doing social media full
02:37:21.840
time i do content full time i've got a beautiful woman by my side that i'm going to marry and have
02:37:26.240
kids with one day and yeah if if we enjoy sex why not well what's the big deal sexy sex adam and eve
02:37:32.080
had sex so what's the big deal well i didn't say that sex is the big deal the big deal is whether or
02:37:37.840
not you have what is considered virtue and honor other men cares about honor in 10 years time
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well i'm going to explain it to you if you want the answer yes carry on other men are always going to see
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you as a cuck they're going to see you as less than a man and the reason they're going to see you as
02:37:53.440
less than a man is because you purposely allow other men to bone your chick yeah so because they
02:37:59.200
consider this to be low virtue they're always going to consider you to be lesser than them no matter how
02:38:04.000
poor they are the poorest man on this planet is always going to consider himself richer than you
02:38:10.160
literally help a 95 donated 200 andrew is the perfect example of modern christians cherry-picking
02:38:17.920
what he follows of god's word based on his own opinions treats everyone he disagrees with awful
02:38:24.640
berates belittles insults i haven't belittled anybody in fact we've just been arguing our various
02:38:30.720
points there's no belittlement uh right now we're engaged in what's called an argument so i'm explaining to
02:38:36.160
you that the poorest man on planet earth who has a virtuous wife who is loyal to him is always going
02:38:41.680
to consider himself richer than any amount of money that you give yourself based on the fact that you
02:38:47.040
let other men bone your chick you understand that right yeah but again you're saying poorer but again
02:38:54.000
if i'm making money and we enjoy it what is the problem i don't care what anyone thinks i'll get
02:39:00.080
different from the daily i don't care yeah right so i mean if you don't care about virtue if you are
02:39:08.240
a slave to your own sin your own vice uh then you're in what's called pre-lust and the thing is
02:39:14.720
is that shaking you out of pre-lust is next to impossible you have now told me multiple times
02:39:20.160
the thing which you value in life the only thing which you value is money yes draw god's not going to
02:39:25.680
feed you he's not going to clothe you he's not going to take care of you though there's uh almost
02:39:30.320
every other thing on planet earth you could do to make money you took the easy path to make money
02:39:36.000
and you shared the one thing that men never share which is their woman in order to do it that's why
02:39:41.280
all men everywhere will always consider you lesser than they are than they are yeah was your are you
02:39:48.160
married yeah yeah was your wife a virgin when you met her no no so she's probably been shagged by
02:39:54.640
a lot of dudes so what's the difference no she hasn't been shagged by a lot of dudes how many how
02:39:58.480
many dudes has she shagged before you uh well we have five kids and the thing is is that she shagged
02:40:05.040
less people than she has kids and on top of that let me ask you a question if every single person
02:40:13.680
that your chick slept with got her pregnant how many kids would you have you do realize most women
02:40:21.200
lie about the body counts so that your wife probably has banged quite a few more people
02:40:26.400
than what no she hasn't so again here's here's the question the question is how many kids would you
02:40:33.600
have if every time you banged a new dude you got pregnant how many kids would you have we wear
02:40:37.440
rubbers so that we wouldn't yeah i know that's not do you understand what a hypothetical is if if it were
02:40:43.600
true that so if it were true that every time you slept with a dude you got pregnant how many kids would
02:40:48.480
you have i thought we don't keep count we just so what i mean would that studio be a nursery right
02:40:55.680
now would it require five or six full-time care workers to take care of all the kids that were
02:41:01.360
in there is that how many kids you would have how's this relevant may i ask what's that how's
02:41:07.040
this relevant you're going on about nursery well it's it is relevant imaginary babies you're trying to
02:41:11.600
make you're trying to make an accusation that somehow because my wife was not a virgin when i married her
02:41:16.640
and you're some big christian to me allowing other men to fuck my wife and clearly it's not it
02:41:21.760
clearly clearly there's a distinction in virtue yeah but your wife's been fucked so okay okay again
02:41:27.280
without being crude i do have respect for you but your wife has been fucked before you so where does
02:41:32.320
it matter yeah so what yeah so what with me so what she sleeps with other men do i do i go and let
02:41:38.720
other men my wife on purpose no you might do that you might get up other men you might stick their junk
02:41:46.000
in your chick's mouth and then you kiss her the next day bro yeah she loves it yeah i love it and
02:41:50.720
you think that that's equatable to the fact that my wife wasn't a virgin when we got married i wasn't a
02:41:55.840
virgin either yeah see so i don't get it oh it's the same it's just like it's just like letting other
02:42:02.240
random strangers plow your chick yeah it's the same again i'm a gen z and you're you're old-fashioned
02:42:08.080
again i've probably made more money than you was when oh yeah it's real old-fashioned to not let
02:42:11.920
other men stuff your chick what an old-fashioned stodgy old man i really am that was an old-fashioned
02:42:17.840
stodgy son of a bitch who cares in 10 years other dudes stuff my chick who cares you know i'm a real
02:42:24.000
fuddy-duddy i'm a real fuddy-duddy but again i'm going back who cares in 10 years when it's all
02:42:30.000
forgotten about and we're living a happy life in our lovely mansion it ain't going to be forgotten
02:42:33.920
about no one's ever going to forget that you're a cuck you came on one of the largest irl podcasts
02:42:38.960
on planet earth and told the world you're a cuck no one's ever going to love it that bro love it
02:42:44.960
when your kids when your kids if you ever have them get old they're going to come back and you'll be
02:42:48.880
like little johnny's going to be in the schoolyard and school walk over kids going to walk over he's
02:42:53.680
going to be like look your dad's a fucking cuck johnny and you're going to be like yeah that's true i uh
02:42:59.200
i did allow other men on purpose to your mother johnny but that's because i'm a real man
02:43:04.080
little johnny about money little johnny began private school and wouldn't have to worry about
02:43:07.920
money yeah listen you think that private school is going to stop little johnny
02:43:15.520
allowed other men on purpose to his mom no he's gonna know bro your kid ain't gonna be nearly as
02:43:20.960
stupid as you think they know that's fine and i will tell little johnny because the money we've got
02:43:25.280
and the lovely things we've got in a lavish life here will have but yes it did happen we live life
02:43:29.920
and again we have different morals to granddads and grandmas you know because again i know you have a
02:43:35.200
different perspective on life and you're a slave to your religion but it is what you're a slave to
02:43:39.280
money yes i am we're all slaves to money do you have a job yeah yeah yes you're a slave to money like
02:43:45.600
me that's a slave yeah having a job yeah of course it is yeah i'll have a job yeah so wait so wait i
02:43:51.280
just want i just want you to just so that we're clear look directly in that camera and tell 100
02:43:57.120
million men that they're slaves because they don't let other men their chick for money and instead they
02:44:02.400
have jobs go ahead yes if you want a good lifestyle yes and you don't let other people your
02:44:08.080
missus you're missing out and you're a slave now ladies and gentlemen you're missing out if you have
02:44:13.600
one of those stupid jobs where you're supporting your family and you're not letting chad fuck your
02:44:19.840
chick for cash you're missing out ladies and gentlemen oh my god yes i want to give credit to uh to uh
02:44:29.360
bevo do you prefer brandon or hey bevo we're on the thing yeah uh you're you're being a good sport
02:44:35.360
yeah no i'm fair with it i'm fair with it this one again you're being a good sport i appreciate
02:44:39.920
when you first come on you i was bored like with all this god talk and listen again to everyone here
02:44:44.480
yeah we need this kind of i respect your religion i get it but i personally all i care about is money
02:44:50.720
living life and making money for my children and my mother and my family and my wife to be
02:44:56.400
Sophia so i couldn't give a flying toss about god anyway i could name them all but yeah i don't i
02:45:02.480
don't care personally that's just me wait question did you grow up uh like religious or not religious
02:45:07.120
no uh east end households didn't didn't not atheist okay wait one uh one question for you i mean would
02:45:14.080
it be prefer both your parents in your life by chance um so yes my no well so my no no there wasn't
02:45:20.720
i'll be honest so my mom and dad split out when i was about three four years old but and then
02:45:24.560
i had my stepfather that got married to my mom pretty quickly and yeah he's been there ever since so
02:45:29.520
i've had a dad all the time again i see my dad but yeah i've had my stepfather is i'll call him
02:45:34.080
dad as well because he's been there all the time and yeah they've been in a happy marriage of 18 years
02:45:37.920
and there's nothing wrong no listen i'm not i'm not knocking uh you having a strong male role model
02:45:43.840
in your life what does your stepdad think about other dudes plowing your chick though what does he
02:45:48.720
say about that again i don't he hasn't really said much but if i showed him my bank balance he'd be
02:45:54.240
like go on son really yeah definitely but it's a different life would you tell your kid to let
02:46:00.640
other dudes plow his chick for money if you if you enjoy it and you're only money why not
02:46:05.040
again we're different how old are you my ask again i'm not being disrespectful i'm 40 you're 40 so you
02:46:10.400
my dad's yeah my dad's a little bit older than you it's a different life with him because what my dad
02:46:13.920
said he's like i'm very jealous of the money you make because back in his day he didn't have access to
02:46:19.520
social media only fans do you know i mean and it even he even told me do it son why not you're
02:46:25.680
making the money you're enjoying life why not and again in 10 years time when i settle down with the
02:46:29.760
love of my life to the left of me and have children and i've got all the money in the world happy days
02:46:35.120
why not who gives a f who cares who cares and god ain't gonna be there to save me god whatever i don't
02:46:42.160
care money's god to me yeah i agree money's god to you and you're a slave to that god if you're a
02:46:49.760
slave to your whereas my god no my god gave me free will in fact my god rejects slavery uh that is
02:46:57.200
part of the religion that it must be something which you come to on your own i am the opposite of
02:47:02.880
a slave you on the other hand are completely and totally enslaved to materialism to the point where you
02:47:08.000
can't see the objectively valuable thing in front of you listen the objectively valuable thing which
02:47:13.840
is right next to you is your woman that is the most objectively valuable thing you'll ever have and you
02:47:19.360
sell her to other men do i sell you for money no she enjoys it i enjoy it why not because you don't
02:47:27.520
you have do you have no sense of pride or dignity any sense of virtue at all do you have any self-respect
02:47:33.760
at all respect yeah of course you do and there's boundaries of course there's boundaries but again
02:47:38.240
we live life we're young what are the boundaries you can only suck a guy's dick on tuesday like what
02:47:42.320
are the boundaries here it's actually friday friday friday friday friday yeah um wait i got
02:47:52.560
i got a quick question for you uh like just curious i mean if if you could have her stop sleeping with
02:47:59.760
other men like would you prefer that over the current status quo like if you're like and you
02:48:05.360
could keep it open on your end no no no of course not because it goes both ways how you'd want it both
02:48:09.680
no no of course because i have respect for women like if i can't do something she can't do it if she
02:48:14.400
can do something i can do it you know so i'm not gonna say yeah i can sleep with all these birds and
02:48:18.880
you can't sleep with all these men because it's unfair so no well let's say she was down for that
02:48:24.720
though she's like babe i i don't want to sleep with any other guys but you can keep sleeping with
02:48:29.600
girls if you want to i would be respectful so you would just close it off yeah i close it off yeah
02:48:33.040
100 so i have respect and you you might not think i haven't but i have and again if it's making money
02:48:37.840
and we're having fun why not this is your one life why are you stressing about god come on now
02:48:42.400
that's just how i act it is well i'm not listen i'm not stressing about god i understand that you
02:48:49.440
are a virtuous pre-list filled individual i don't care right ultimately i'm on the show though to
02:48:56.800
talk specifically about the paradigm of world grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars
02:49:02.640
if a man called me a his teeth would look worse than the limey i would be working in a bk for mike
02:49:08.960
davis before i let man bang my wife no man will ever be able to ask me how his dike taste
02:49:14.960
well the thing that's the so this is the thing right it's like um this this is what we were
02:49:22.160
alluding to earlier what i'm saying to you is that my job here is is specifically to push back against
02:49:28.080
worldviews i have a worldview you have a worldview that's what i'm here to do is push back on that
02:49:33.360
you yourself being a cuck who lets other dudes stuff your wife on purpose i'm not here to come in
02:49:40.000
dylan lolly donated two hundred dollars the revaluationary war losers go like this
02:49:53.840
all that hair is money money money money money money money money money money money money money
02:49:58.960
that's money money that's all that here is money so whatever right because you're a slave to money
02:50:04.400
yeah how can you not say that you're a slave to money it's the only thing you value you value money
02:50:09.120
over the virtue of your own woman we have just been how are you not enslaved to money
02:50:14.960
let's say that i'm sorry how are you not enslaved to money if you value it over the virtue of your own
02:50:20.560
woman i i listen if you have a nine to five i'm not disrespecting but i am financially free i can buy
02:50:27.520
what i want i can do what i want when i was working a job for probably conversion to dollars pre about
02:50:34.640
six hundred dollars a week i was spent 12 hours a day working i would go home have a shower eat my
02:50:40.880
dinner go to bed go back to work six days a week that is a slave to someone else your boss
02:50:47.280
that is a slave that's not enslavement it's it's a slavery it's no it's not i can get my
02:50:52.480
cock out and make money offering added value and service to the world which makes it a better place
02:50:57.680
the opposite of enslavement you working a job providing goods and services to other individuals is
02:51:04.000
something which is highly valuable i would value that christinated 200 andrew he doesn't let her
02:51:11.440
bang other men she obviously wears the pants and wants this and he has to agree with it stop pretending
02:51:18.560
like he has a choice he is weak okay he can't defend himself i love that word yeah but anyway so back to
02:51:27.680
this uh that's there's a lot of value which is being added here if you if you have a job you're
02:51:33.520
providing goods and services that people need right they need those services yeah that's important
02:51:39.040
and i need money you you hang on you strip all the value off your money the money that you earn is cheap
02:51:45.440
it's cheap money it's cheap money and it's valueless you worship it and instead you give the most the
02:51:51.840
thing that you should value the most which is your wife you give her away as a whore to other men
02:51:57.120
and you say me being a cuck and making money that's the most important thing how could a man ever
02:52:02.720
respect somebody who has no virtue like that how could they do that again we're young we're making
02:52:07.440
money we're living life and again when i'm 30 years old and i want to have children and i want to
02:52:13.120
relax it a bit again i'll still do social media but i won't probably be as open as we are we're living
02:52:18.320
like cushy do what we want when we want and then we settle down then but who cares sex is great
02:52:24.000
money's great filming it's great why not and what happens when you're 40 i'll be living in my mansion
02:52:31.600
with a nice ferrari on the drive with my beautiful kids and my beautiful wife so i just want to let
02:52:36.080
you know here's a good piece of wisdom for you that you'll ignore but i'll give it to you anyway
02:52:40.640
when people get cheap money they spend money cheaply and what ends up happening is it cheapens them
02:52:46.160
and they end up with no money and they end up without any of the things which they thought
02:52:50.640
the cheap money was going to bring them they they never end up with those things money which comes
02:52:56.240
easy go or easy come it's also easy go that's why you have what's called the lottery curse the lottery
02:53:01.440
curse uh is most people who win the lottery end up broke within just a few years and the reason is is
02:53:07.440
because the money came cheap money came cheap and so it's easy out the window you'll never value it nearly
02:53:13.600
as much as you would value the virtue of your woman but you gave that away that's not true i
02:53:18.320
would say like if you have like healthy relationship with your money your financials
02:53:24.560
most definitely going to grow just depends on how you invest in yourself if you keep spending if you
02:53:30.320
spend if you spend more time spending then you lose more money but if you work
02:53:36.240
most sex workers end up broke most sex workers end up broke most lottery winners end up broke they
02:53:41.120
almost always are you a sex worker if you're not then no if you don't if you're not in order to
02:53:46.640
comment on the thing that yeah if you if you're not a sex worker anything like that or have done
02:53:51.760
anything you don't have to screw in a light bulb if i'm not an electrician
02:53:59.360
that has nothing to compare to that's not the same logic that's not that's the same logic that is it's
02:54:08.000
the same logic the logic is you can't comment on the thing if you're not the thing i can't comment
02:54:12.800
on prostitution if i'm not a prostitute i can't screw in a light bulb because a light bulb is so
02:54:18.000
much different you can put on a light bulb in two seconds being like as a content creator full-time
02:54:23.840
you do that day in day out like a job like how you attend this podcast is different so you have no
02:54:30.160
idea you will never know you will never know until you put yourself in someone's shoes i just want to
02:54:36.080
i just want to make sure i got this clear so your opinion does not matter at the end of the day we
02:54:39.600
will never take advice from you because you're not a sex worker if you're a sex worker then we would
02:54:44.160
take advice from you okay do you vote yeah i vote yeah i don't understand why do you vote you're not
02:54:49.760
a politician you'll never understand because i want to choose who to govern all right country that i live
02:54:55.840
in so wait wait a second so you can have a say even though you're not a politician that's really weird
02:55:00.800
it's more the respect of people have fought for the decision for that certain thing but no one's
02:55:07.280
fought for you to have a decision on sex work yeah they've been fighting about it for the last hundred
02:55:13.360
years they've been fighting about the decision on sex work how well i mean feminism is part of sexual
02:55:21.360
liberation sexual liberation is the promotion also of sex work yeah but that is a political it's a
02:55:27.600
political agenda there's not been wars over sex work there's been wars over voting that's the
02:55:33.440
difference oh yeah where where's there ever been a war over voting no someone died over voting you
02:55:39.840
don't know right you just made it up right no i know you just think so it just sounded good so you
02:55:44.880
just said it right yeah there's wars over religion i won't get into it but there's wars over religion
02:55:49.440
which yeah there's also war over atheism you ever heard of communism that's an atheistic that's an
02:55:54.320
atheistic uh mode of governance and what they did was kill all the religious just so you know
02:56:00.800
so you act like religion is the only way in which there's going to be war we have these massive
02:56:06.320
atheistic armies like the communists had and what they did was put all the religious to the sword so
02:56:11.200
it's not like your guys's hands are clean except most most wars are based on religion i won't say
02:56:16.880
again we're not no i wouldn't say most wars are based on religion i'd say most of them are based
02:56:20.240
on resources but that's just me okay let's uh move things on a little bit uh that was good well let's
02:56:27.920
we'll hear a bit more from some of the other panelists that was a good uh that was a good uh
02:56:31.760
exchange you guys got a little uh it was a good one it was good um okay let me read a few chats then
02:56:38.000
we'll get back into some of the topics uh can i just say though uh to um i i don't know your name
02:56:43.840
it's to the cuck um hey i do appreciate don't don't be nice be nice andrew i just wanted i'm
02:56:50.720
not being mean i don't remember his his name i don't know if i caught it what is your name what
02:56:56.720
what's your name god lover andrew and my name is andrew and yes i am a god lover that's true yes
02:57:03.520
brandon brandon bivo brandon yeah yeah so anyway brandon i do appreciate the back and forth
02:57:08.160
no no i'm young it's we have different views and again i appreciate that you like your religion but
02:57:14.400
again in today's world i want the nice things i want to live a good life and i do what i do so
02:57:25.840
like real real fast if you'll if you'll humor me can you take two minutes to explain why other
02:57:33.600
men should be a cuck and i'll take two minutes to explain why they shouldn't before we move the
02:57:38.720
segment i'm not i'm not telling me i'm not telling men to be a cuck again it's it's what we enjoy and
02:57:45.360
if we enjoy something why not let's make money and yeah we're living life we're making money we're
02:57:50.960
setting ourselves up for the future because i'm with the woman i love and i want to get married to
02:57:54.640
and have kids with and if it means that we have more than fun with other people it's going to benefit
02:58:01.920
us in the long run who cares about what we've done in 10 20 years i don't care nor you will care
02:58:07.440
nor will god care nor my mom and dad will care who cares because i've got money in the bank i've got
02:58:12.240
a lovely house i've got a lovely wife i've got a lovely johnny or tiffany whoever i'm going to have
02:58:16.800
and i've got a lot doc venerbilly donated two hundred dollars syphilis was deadly till penicillin
02:58:24.560
hiv was deadly till antivirals in 10 years when the next deadly std runs through your circle of cooks
02:58:31.840
and door you will need that money to keep her pee from falling off
02:58:37.280
sex workers don't actually be the cleaner yo how crazy would it be though if like some brand
02:58:42.160
new std came along that's like never been seen before that'd be fucking insane
02:58:48.560
i'll say this as well i'll say i'll say this prostitutes are the most cleanest women out there
02:58:54.560
because they get tested on the daily because they have wait wait yeah because they have to
02:59:00.320
they have to yes of course they have and how come the stds are so much higher with prostitutes than
02:59:04.640
they are the general population what about what about the general population don't tend to get tested so
02:59:09.680
a lot of people have things that would make it higher you would think that they would be higher
02:59:13.360
than right not lower no but why is it that prostitutes have higher rates of stds because
02:59:18.080
they get tested more gradually like normal people don't and they live with things for longer yeah
02:59:23.840
that's right normal people don't have money that's why no normal people have sex normally
02:59:30.240
but there's a lot of people who will sleep with a lot of other people and they carry diseases and
02:59:35.360
spread it around without most people don't have sex with random strangers day in day out for money
02:59:40.320
in fact only one select group does are called prostitutes and the rates of of stds are far
02:59:46.160
higher than that of the general population there's no way around that i mean there is because a lot of
02:59:53.440
agree to agree i guess just because i think it just comes down to normal people that don't that do
03:00:00.480
like that have sex to agree what did you say if you disagree to agree i don't know like it doesn't
03:00:06.160
make any sense because there's going to be people that you know are going to be not careful but
03:00:12.800
there's also people like that don't make money and like have not gone they're self-checked
03:00:19.600
that's all you care about is money you said you you said you would sell your soul to the devil in
03:00:24.320
violation of your christian values for money why should we ever think that you're saying again
03:00:30.080
that's insane you literally said here's my virtues and i will absolutely sell those virtues to satan
03:00:35.920
himself if there's enough money and yet the cuck next to you says hey that they you guys don't
03:00:41.040
worship money you clearly worship money how could you not worship it if you'll sell your soul for it
03:00:46.880
be nice we gotta be nice i sell mine for a tenner a month a ten tenner oh tenner that for the of
03:00:52.480
yeah yeah okay but like going back hold on no that's cindy all right enough enough enough cindy
03:00:59.040
okay wait i just wanted a couple clarifying questions to like the extent of the relationship
03:01:04.160
so you guys like you'll hook up with girls together hook up with guys together um and like
03:01:09.840
so is it like an orgy thing or like how does it work uh there might be one guy there might be one
03:01:15.600
girl there could be like swapping is it like a swinger thing yeah potentially if you want to
03:01:19.600
say do you guys use that same term in in the uk swing swingers okay but that's with other couples
03:01:24.160
other couples but we don't it's just tend to we might bring a boy in we might bring a girl in
03:01:29.120
and you're over there probably can't even get a rod on no more so you might need to try it you know so
03:01:32.720
and wait just a question um in terms of your guys's orientation are you both straight are you guys
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bi what straight you're bi okay so you would like get with it one of the other girls too yeah but like
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you it would just be like yeah just the girls not like other guys getting into the picture
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yeah okay so do so you don't do any same sex no definitely not no would you do it for enough money
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no you wouldn't do it for no that's really weird why not i thought that money's all that matters it
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does not hurt you wait andrew would you do it for a billion he's christian course no i don't know
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a billion's a lot of fucking money wait would you do it for a billion dollars
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you probably yeah it's a lot of money yeah i'll tell you how can you say so then how can you say
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you're not a slave to money you would even compromise your your whatever moral integrity
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you had towards the same sex for money you will do anything for money andrew let me ask this
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with happiness say you were secretly gay again nothing against Andrew are you secretly are you
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secretly gay okay sorry but if you if you're if you're a christian and you've got to be a slave to
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your religion and you can't express your gay feelings that is being a slave to your religion
03:02:44.640
because you're christian but you can't be happy because you're gay how did we get here so wait so
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just so i get this right you're saying that christianity should conform to the fact that homosexuals
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refuse to stop engaging in sodomy no as in like if people are secretly no no let them answer let
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them answer no yeah no she's right she's carrying on that's what i was saying if you're secretly gay
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but you're being a slave to your religion and you can't feel like you are you a slave to the religion
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because you can't be gay you're a slave you can't rejects you if you engage in sodomy it says you're not
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allowed to do that so how is it that you're being a slave at that point that makes no sense you're being
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a slave to your vice in fact the religion would free you from the vice has a has a religion freeing
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you from being gay because it's because the thing is is that if you intuitively understand you're
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doing something wrong you wouldn't be moving over to christianity in order to get rid of the sin to
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begin with if you're uh let's just move on you're waffling but yeah let's move on there's no waffling at
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you just don't have an argument no i do because if you're okay again i could go into it but we've got
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other guests and it's not the beaver and sophia i don't know it sounds like you're waffling no no
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you're waffling i don't know you're waffling you're pancaking bro come on give me the argument stop
03:04:01.920
stop stop stop stop doing the i have an argument but i can't tell you i'll tell you because i just
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want to move along no no it's fine i'll tell you so if you're within a christian household you're born
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into christianity you're gay you get born gay or whatever again nothing against gays i believe in
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no war living life and being happy so if you're gay and you're a christian
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you can't express your gay feelings because you're christian so you're being a slave to your religion
03:04:31.200
you have to be gay and be a christian you can't engage in the act of homosexuality and be a christian
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at the same time you can't that's what god tells you not to be god tells you not andrew i do have to
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move things along i do got to move things along let me get these chats okay we have pelajic six thank
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you man for the super chat quasimodo the cuck okay they got the tucks you know okay we have rare
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rare a field rarefied flair thank you man cindy wants to read this
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rare a five yeah i already read that cindy you are deluding yourself
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saint represents indulgence instead of abstinence saint represents all the so-called sins as they all
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lead to physical mental or emotional gratifications trade in your cross of for a baphomet will happily
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have you a saint satanus all right thank you flair appreciate it we have pelajic six thank you man
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andrew don't fall into this dumb sims trap he's deflecting because you smoked him he's not that
03:05:39.280
smart be nice guys come on be nice here uh okay all right that's the two chats wait let me hide those
03:05:47.040
all right here you know what while we're at it fuck it we're gonna go around we have stifler here ask
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everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten starting with you sydney sydney cindy cindy
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what do you rate your looks on a scale of one to ten go ahead i'm ten and above well it's ten is the max
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so i'm ten and above okay what about you um like seven all right yeah seven out of ten you know the
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rules a ten a what a ten a ten okay yeah i feel like a seven i feel like if i get attention from guys then
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that means i'm attractive so i don't have a scale number so you depend your your attraction on men
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no i'm just saying like if a guy thinks i'm attractive then like okay cool but i already
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think i am attractive so it's like so what is that a number yeah so if you put the number to
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it i don't really know i mean i feel like everyone's attractive in their own way so maybe like
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seven or eight okay i don't know i would give myself a cool 8.5 maybe like a nine on a really
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good day okay uh like an eight my husband says i'm a ten period what do you say i say i'm a ten because
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he says i'm a 10. so we got we got a 10 10 and 10. i'm just confident in myself i hate to be the bearer
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none of you are tens that's fine on what's your opinion though like can you explain oh sorry i
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didn't rate myself i'm a five andrew what about you i'm a four okay there you have it what was
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your question on what scale like can you explain the like the objective beauty scale yeah go ahead
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well obviously never mind go ahead no that that's the scale the objective beauty scale
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oh that's what would you wait just hold on i'm not gonna rate yeah come on actually i would like
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to yeah if you're saying none of us are tens then what would you rate well you didn't rate yourself
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a ten no i didn't but this was mostly targeted at the people if you say you're a six or seven or
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eight really don't get a question for nick nick what would you rate for yourself instead of four
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i got a six you rate yourself a six cindy's like a nine bro you're you're fucking thirsty right now
03:08:12.560
cindy stop please stop molesting stop harassing sexually harassing nick over there nick you can
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i'm not please leave my producer what he would rate himself please leave my producer alone okay uh so i
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i could rate yeah leave uh leave them kids alone over there what are you doing yeah that's a good
03:08:35.280
kid that's a good kid simp and cindy relax simp and cindy wait andrew this is bothering you
03:08:43.120
our community not to throw like race or nothing out there but i feel like in like in the black
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community like we are like we're up there yeah there's a different but yeah i just like it's
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different because you definitely i'm pretty sure yeah you definitely don't think that i'm a ten but
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like wait wait what are you trying what are you trying to say here no i'm just saying it's
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different i don't know how to explain like there's like the asian girl scale the white girl scale the
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black girl scale is that what you're saying no i think you have your own preferences like yeah
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like your own person actually attracted to what would you rate everyone well i'm not going to do it
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unless you guys are fine with me rating you individually oh no i don't care wait andrew could you do one
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thing do you have a lint roller you got a couple specs of white on your microphone and it's
03:09:27.360
fucking killing me or just pluck them off can you pluck them off it's his dried lips there you go
03:09:33.280
oh there you go wait and then there's one on the top it's history there's a little there's i know if
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i sucked as much penis as you i guess it would moisten them right but anyway yeah you should
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oh you should start doing it wait you got a little speck on the top of your mic it's just
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you got the main one you got the main one there we go thank you make sure it's sloppy i was like about
03:09:52.320
to have a great ocd comes great responsibility wait wait stop stop stop stop stop i was about
03:10:00.000
to have a panic attack dude from from the fucking the speck on your shit but wait okay going back
03:10:05.200
to you what were you saying oh no i was saying like um i just like it's different because like
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for like you know okay i'm gonna say like for black people me and her would be considered like
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we're like there we're at the top you're at the top yeah well i'm not at the top at the top but like
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we're pretty like you know yeah i'm not saying you guys are unattractive or bad looking gals yeah
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but i'm just saying 10 10 10 no offense not so much i want to rant i know i want to hear i
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i feel like that was my confident answer i'll go around the table i'll go around the table i'll ask
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if you're fine with me rating you yeah yeah yeah
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i do not need your validation period oh i'm not i'm not intending to validate you don't worry about
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that wait i'm not intending what about me oh i don't rate guys i can't rate guys
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you can rate me you're the only 10 on the table there you go there you go the cuts to 10 big up
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the cuts big ups andrew you son of a gun how dare you you're you're littering on your get that oh my
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god i'm not even start i can't even i'm we're pausing until you clean that shit up andrew i'm not
03:11:25.200
moving on what is that is that it's lice it's gone it's gone it's gone it's gone okay oh my god
03:11:33.840
bro you trying to give me an aneurysm son what you what are you doing i'm gonna okay all right
03:11:39.360
sorry guys i have a bit of ocd i saw a couple specs on his mic they had to go all right so i'll rate
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you guys um do you want us to say what we said originally yeah so say what you said originally
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wait should we say it after let's say it after do you want to go
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uh well actually one quick point i want to point out here for cindy cindy you're currently wearing
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color contacts right if you were a 10 wouldn't you be a 10 without with your natural eye color
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yeah do you want do you want to like take it out for me you could do it you want me to take your
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colored contacts out i'll i'm gonna pass on that you can take off my eye contact if you think that's
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like the biggest judgment of no it's not it's just i mean if you're already a 10 why would you
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eye color with fake contact lenses um well why do you have a beard why didn't you shave today
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that's not even an argument i'm not claiming to be a 10 i'm dead i'm just saying like you might
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think like oh beer makes me look hotter so i'm gonna grow this out for some women does other women
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that doesn't do you have like a shaver let's shave it off let's see yeah sure hey you know what i'll do
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the shave thing if you wipe off the makeup how's that for wait don't that's fine don't tempt her with
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a good time andrew are you gonna do it keep your beard andrew keep your beard we need your beard take the
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makeup off you want to um i don't think i don't really want to like because like i
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like i paid like 10k for this you paid how did you pay 10k for your makeup i paid 10k to get my
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makeup done you paid ten thousand dollars to get your that's like the most that's probably the dumbest
03:13:25.760
thing i've heard tonight there's it doesn't cost ten thousand dollars anywhere to get this makeup artist
03:13:31.600
charged me ten thousand dollars so you're full of girls i don't know about makeup if you go to a
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professional makeup artist are they charging you ten thousand dollars i don't know where
03:13:41.360
hell no yeah damn so much like you got no eye shadow that's a straight up trolling at this point
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damn they did a terrible job for ten thousand i'll tell you that much okay
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awkward awkward okay cindy all right i'll do some ratings here
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five bevo ten nothing uh i don't remember all your names but
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monet monet i'm just going on off face by the way but uh what about on body i definitely i'm not going
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there oh yeah i can say i definitely have better days for sure but like uh uh meh five six for sure
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six six point five they're not going to like that one hold on can you lift up a little bit
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four oh okay you guys asked you guys said it was okay but you don't want i don't have i'll i only will
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rate if you say yes right should we go should we rate you next or no you can't now you just try to
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get back but personality always takes the cake that's true no yeah definitely what's inside matters
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okay i mean no personally i wouldn't date someone just based on their looks like it would it would be a
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plus but like i would like a person with a good heart good personality good morals to me at least
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and just like write stuff like you don't have to be like i don't even know like who the heart is
03:15:36.560
okay um had michael moray if you guys were tens if you guys i mean you're married so okay whatever
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if you were tens you i gotta be honest you wouldn't be single i mean no honestly i'm single for a
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reason like what's the reason i just don't want no boyfriend i'm a freshman in college like i don't
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that's not my focus right now i could definitely have a boyfriend right oh trust i could definitely
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have a boyfriend but if you were 10 you would have like the guys are a line of men okay but
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just how earlier when you said that like you don't talk to multiple people at once like that's the same
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with me i don't and sometimes people are just not interesting like i don't want to be talking to
03:16:12.880
hella people i want personally for me i just don't want it right i feel like i'm like i got i got hella guys
03:16:18.800
but i just don't want it yeah i definitely yeah i definitely gotta like ah if the right gig if right game
03:16:24.560
what the okay if the right excuse me excuse me i did not mean to say that if the right gate
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the right guy if the right am i i think i'm having an aneurysm if the right guy came along
03:16:38.320
you would be dating him of course but like most definitely but i'm just not finding that here in santa
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barbara santa barbara don't got nobody nothing honestly it's scary out here for sure
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look here here's why i give pushback on this whole 10 thing right so a lot of people
03:16:54.560
like i'm sure all you girls know a guy who thinks he's hot but isn't right do you guys know a guy
03:17:00.240
who thinks but like that's kind of you if you're claiming to be a 10 well that's the attitude you
03:17:09.040
have but you guys all know guys who think they're the who think they're the ship but they're not i
03:17:13.840
mean but at the end of the day our opinion doesn't matter regarding the guy because if he feels like
03:17:16.720
he's a hot he is in his own perspective we we can't tell him he's not because he don't still feel
03:17:22.240
like that yeah but you can come on you clown on dudes who like yeah but that's not but they're
03:17:26.480
not yeah i feel like sometimes there's a line between confidence and cockiness yeah like right
03:17:32.080
i mean yeah there's a there's a line between well let me let me add this so i actually think women
03:17:37.280
respond far more better even if the guy is cocky women respond better to that than men responding to
03:17:43.440
cocky women because one of the an attraction trigger for uh that that men view in women is
03:17:50.000
modesty okay whereas i think women will like some women obviously don't like cocky guys but like a
03:17:57.440
lot of women will like that almost delusional confidence in men yeah and so for some guys like
03:18:03.360
it's a bit of a differential between men and women but like for most men like we don't want like a
03:18:08.160
uh cocky girl so yeah modesty is very uh valued yeah like that's that's totally understandable like
03:18:16.080
i would want you know someone who well in my eyes humble modest yeah model mobile like just very you
03:18:23.280
know like i guess but look here's why i think this whole thing matters i think when it comes to dating
03:18:28.000
you have to have a reasonable self-assessment of your own physical attractiveness because like here's
03:18:32.160
the big problem i see a lot of people both men and women but there's definitely a lot of women who
03:18:36.640
are like this because men reality will slap you in the face whereas women like your girlfriends will
03:18:42.240
gas you up you could be obese and your girls will be telling you oh my god you're fucking beautiful
03:18:47.840
you're a 10 out of 10 they'll gas you up and you're like your your female uh peers are never
03:18:53.200
gonna like correct you and say nah shut the fuck up like if i if i were to tell my guy friends yeah i'm
03:18:58.960
the fucking shit i'm so fucking hot they'd be like shut up brian lose some fucking weight daddy
03:19:03.840
because i'm i gotta lose some weight i'm a little chubby right now i got a dad though
03:19:08.000
they'd be like shut the fuck up you ain't a fucking 10 you got a fucking double chin
03:19:12.720
they were telling me this shit right right now here's the difference though here's the difference
03:19:17.920
so men will typically tell uncomfortable truths met and i actually as a man i prefer that men will tell
03:19:25.840
uncomfortable truths women would rather hear comforting lies and so tell me the truth oh yeah i'm telling you
03:19:32.960
the truth i told you the truth no i'm saying in general like tell me the truth okay but so here's
03:19:38.720
i think i i i understand what you know yeah but here's totally yeah like well no here's what i'm
03:19:44.080
getting right right so i do think it's the case not all women but a lot of women have an over
03:19:49.440
inflated sense of like kind of where they stand in the dating marketplace and so what ends up happening
03:19:55.840
is if you're too gassed up on your physical appearance or you think you're super attractive
03:19:59.600
and i'll get into some of the reasons why that is you're probably curving guys rejecting guys who
03:20:06.080
are actually on your level and in your league so and though the guys who will give you loyalty who
03:20:13.120
will give you commitment give you monogamy treat you well a lot of women are curving them especially
03:20:18.240
in their like you know uh 18 19 20 all through their 20s and the reason they're curving them is because
03:20:24.880
you're getting sexual attention from men who are quite frankly outside of your league in terms of
03:20:29.680
looks status etc now i don't know some of you guys are in college i don't know if you've like you'll
03:20:35.040
have like an 18 19 year old college girl who can get sexual attention from like a guy who's a little
03:20:40.480
bit older a little more established he could be we we've had college girls on the show who normal
03:20:45.280
college girls 500 followers they've got nba players hitting them up nfl players hitting them up
03:20:50.320
professional athletes musicians famous like top top tier like musicians rappers all this
03:20:57.200
shit uh and you can get sexual attention from them or they could or it could just be like the really
03:21:02.480
attractive guy at college yeah a lot of women are all chasing after the top 10 men and those men will
03:21:08.160
happily just have casual sex with pretty much most women but they're not going to give that woman
03:21:14.000
commitment but see there's a differential here is what you have happening is a
03:21:20.480
excuse me sorry getting tongue tied a woman will sleep with guy and she thinks well i was able to
03:21:24.720
sleep with him he was the x attractive he was an eight nine or ten whatever because i'm able to sleep
03:21:29.680
with him that must be my league but your league is not the men you can sleep with your league is the
03:21:34.240
men that you can get commitment from relationship and marriage that's your league because you can
03:21:39.600
like women men can't really sleep out of their league like if i step to a girl who's like a nine
03:21:45.360
i'm instant rejection right instant rejection i'm not going to be able to like sleep with a
03:21:51.120
really hot chick whereas like you could step to a guy meet him on a dating app he could be one two
03:21:57.280
three points i know some people don't like this numerical rating system he could be one two three
03:22:02.080
points more attractive than you he'll sleep with you he'll get he'll have sex with you but he'll never
03:22:07.760
give you commitment he's probably got a roster of five ten fifteen twenty girls there's some dudes
03:22:11.840
they're just like have a massive rotation and so what's happening is a lot of girls are sharing guys
03:22:18.080
and they're kind of like pushing the guys this is why a lot of dudes ends up in the friend zone
03:22:23.280
actually a lot of guys in your friend zone are actually probably like the guys you ought to be
03:22:26.720
with so what ends up happening at 30 oh couldn't get commitment from all these guys i
03:22:31.280
in my 20s okay i'm gonna finally settle down and it actually makes it makes for terrible relationships
03:22:37.760
because because you think you're settling when actually these guys who you rejected throughout
03:22:42.560
your 20s actually the guys who are kind of in your league but because you can get sexual access and
03:22:47.920
attention from a really attractive dude and it can be really attractive looks wise status money
03:22:53.680
personality whatever guys can make up for their lack of looks in other ways um actually women can
03:22:59.760
too like if you're a girl and you have like uh for example if you're just add value to a guy's life
03:23:05.920
aside from just like looks and sex that's matt that can actually i would i would argue it's kind of
03:23:11.120
the same with guys like you could like if you're average looking girl but you're super sweet you're
03:23:19.520
not promiscuous you're loyal you help him out with things uh and you're like have a good personality
03:23:26.720
pleasant etc because a lot of guys don't want a headache like a lot of guys deal with like quarrelsome
03:23:30.960
women we don't want to deal like that that's one of the most terrible things we don't want
03:23:35.680
a girl who like fucks with our peace because we are like i don't know about you like you're probably
03:23:40.880
like hustling grinding whatever like you don't want a girl to add more stress to your life like
03:23:45.440
you're a business owner right like you don't want that added level of stress toxic woman yeah those
03:23:50.320
guys are like our slurred those guys are fucking no those guys probably don't have anything going for
03:23:56.720
them the dudes who like fucking the drama and the those guys have nothing going for them because
03:24:01.440
like i think like some guys want they don't want it to be boring they want like i don't explain it
03:24:07.120
like some women give me boring i don't want conflict i don't want that you care give me like a mellow
03:24:13.360
girl there some girls will just pick a fight just because they're bored sure yeah and then but like
03:24:19.360
the guys enjoy because they're like oh there's some passion in it no no no no no no no there's boys like
03:24:26.080
that they raise they're immature though like and they probably like don't have other shit going on
03:24:30.560
in their lives so they like the excitement but the guy who's already out in the world struggling like
03:24:35.120
and when i mean struggling like they're already dealing like with the difficulties of like maybe
03:24:39.440
their business owners whatever they're already like fighting the world out there they don't want
03:24:43.200
to come home and be fighting with their girl so i guess what i'm trying to say is just to bring it back
03:24:48.080
to my my point is so as a guy if we can sleep with a girl i don't know if you you agree with
03:24:54.800
this like if we can sleep with a girl there's a pretty good chance we can get her in a relationship
03:24:59.600
would you agree with that like if you can sleep with a girl pretty good chance like
03:25:02.720
you can get her in a relationship it depends what it depends look there's some girls who are for the
03:25:08.240
streets there's some girls who are for the streets but like if you can sleep with a girl there's a
03:25:13.600
there's a okay comparatively speaking that's a weird one it's how you work now i don't know again like
03:25:19.600
if you sleep with someone on the first date you talk more and then it's game over you don't know
03:25:24.960
do you say it's it's a weird one but i get what you're saying it's more here let me find you're
03:25:29.920
attached i'll frame it i'll frame it like this like if a guy sleeps with a girl does he have a better
03:25:36.240
chance of getting her in a relationship then if a girl just sleeps with a guy oh yeah 100 right so
03:25:43.200
so typically there's a differential there and then the big thing is is that because for us men
03:25:49.600
we'll sleep with the girl i don't know if you agree with this but we'll sleep you can as a guy
03:25:53.600
you can sleep with a girl and in terms of just her looks you would sleep with her but you would never
03:26:00.320
consider being in a relationship with her just based off her looks but i would argue for most
03:26:04.960
women in order for you to sleep with a guy he needs to be at least physically attractive enough
03:26:11.440
for you to be in a relationship with him so women will like and they'll break their rule in the
03:26:16.080
opposite way so guys we'll sleep with a girl who's like we'd never be in a relationship with
03:26:20.160
her just based off her look she could be a great girl but we're like man like looks wise just not
03:26:26.480
even worth it whereas for women you'll break the rule the opposite way like this guy won't give me
03:26:32.560
commitment but he's really hot so i'm gonna sleep with him like i'll give him a pass like oh normally
03:26:37.360
i wait three dates but like he's super hot so this is my chance i'm gonna fuck him
03:26:44.080
is it true is it true i think i think guys are just
03:26:50.320
guys are like very visual creatures and you know what i think you're right on the fact that like
03:26:54.960
i feel like if a guy were to if a girl were to just come up to a dude and be like oh do you want to
03:26:59.520
have sex with me most likely than not like the dude would say yeah because they're a dude and i feel
03:27:04.400
like if it were flipped i feel like a girl at least like me i guess i would want to get to know
03:27:10.000
them you know like well here's the difference right like if if a girl's looking to have casual sex
03:27:16.080
like a guy okay if a girl i i can like what if that if a girl is actively looking for casual sex then
03:27:25.680
then i think it would be like the same thing like like i mean maybe uh she would find him attractive
03:27:31.280
but if she's just having casual sex then she probably doesn't care about the person
03:27:34.640
well i i would argue when it comes to casual sex like a girl is going to she's going to probably
03:27:40.960
want that guy to be at least good looking enough that she would be in a relationship with that guy
03:27:47.360
whereas guys it would be it's totally the reverse like they'll sleep with a girl who they'd be like
03:27:52.400
would never be in a relationship with her based on the one sole metric of her physical appearance
03:27:57.760
they welcome the easy access to sex but they'll never give her commitment
03:28:01.520
some of these guys might even keep these girls around with like friends with benefits string them
03:28:04.880
along i'm not even saying this is like just a one night stand one time thing sort of situation
03:28:09.760
they'll keep them around but you'll never get commitment and that's where it's really
03:28:14.080
dangerous because that not dangerous but like because then that's that's when you really think
03:28:18.560
you're in that guy's league when you're like oh is this going to lead somewhere
03:28:22.240
da da da da but he's just using you i think like at the end of the day like it just depends on
03:28:27.040
people's morals and where they stand with themselves to like if you're just gonna let
03:28:31.680
if you're just gonna like look for casual sex and that's good for you like you know you do you but
03:28:36.720
at the end of the day like at the end of the day if you're having casual sex then like right
03:28:44.400
it's just animalistic at that point so it doesn't really matter what's what's what when it comes to
03:28:49.840
the whole like out of the league thing so i would argue that most men can't get anything out of their
03:28:55.360
league like if i step to a girl i'm like hey i'd like to take you out i'm not getting a first date
03:29:00.560
i'm not getting um she's probably almost instant rejection not getting a date not getting a second
03:29:07.520
date not um sex whatever it may be but i would argue that women can get sex out of their league so if
03:29:15.440
a guy tries to shoot hit shoot a shot outside of his league he gets an upfront rejection whereas
03:29:20.560
if a woman shoots outside of her league she'll get a back end rejection so that means she gets rejected
03:29:27.440
after being used for sex the guy will sleep with you once ghost or keep string you long sleep with
03:29:35.120
you a couple times but he's never going to give you commitment and that's the back end rejection
03:29:38.880
so that's how women can get gassed up well uh it just didn't work out with this one guy but he was
03:29:45.520
super attractive oh and you think like that's what makes them think like oh like they can pull like i
03:29:50.000
guess per se that dude and stay with him yeah well because like think about it right as a girl if you
03:29:54.880
can like sleep with these really hot dudes you're you might be thinking oh shit well i just haven't found
03:30:00.560
the right guy of that caliber to get a relationship from so you're gonna like keep on pining towards
03:30:08.640
those hyper attractive guys it's just gonna but it's gonna be constantly rejection after rejection
03:30:13.680
after rejection whereas like guys don't have the i don't know if it's privilege but guys don't have
03:30:18.160
the benefit of getting anything from like bro i can't step to a girl who's more attractive than me
03:30:25.040
and like it's instant rejection she's not oh well hmm like it's never crossing her mind
03:30:31.200
and well i guess i could fuck him a couple times like i don't think girls feel that way you know
03:30:37.040
like if a guy who you're like not that attracted to who's like an average dude at least in your eyes
03:30:41.760
well let me ask you a question would you date an average guy looks like his personality is a 10
03:30:47.280
then let's say he's average in all regards average personality average i wouldn't want you
03:30:52.400
don't want an average guy actually i asked that question to the panel but but like you're not
03:30:56.400
like thinking if an average guy steps to you oh man i guess i could fuck him once just you know
03:31:01.920
because i'm horny or i guess i could like keep a casual for like a couple weeks couple months and
03:31:07.600
then like have her part of my rotation like i think most women don't think that way yeah but
03:31:12.320
like you'll have i'm not saying all men think that way but there's enough men who have like
03:31:17.280
who think that way where it like becomes a problem in this in the uh sexual marketplace but actually
03:31:21.760
going around the table just opening up to the table here you don't want an average guy i just want
03:31:26.240
to go around the table do you want an average guy what's your definition of average average
03:31:31.920
looking average job average can you give me like a picture a good guy he's a good guy but he's
03:31:36.720
average okay good guy good guy but average could you like maybe give like a celebrity comparison
03:31:41.840
like like physical looks like like why do you consider yourself who do you consider average
03:31:47.440
i've reached looking i don't know why you guys call it an average guy that works an average girl of
03:31:51.520
this oh yeah oh hey i know i know hey hang on i can give you an example the gentleman at the table
03:31:58.160
average guy what would you sound average i don't know wait me or yeah the gentleman at the table not
03:32:03.760
you brian the other gentleman i'm sorry is it brandon was it brandon yeah you're brandon yeah yeah
03:32:08.800
yeah brandon brandon average guy who's in wait but who's an average looking celebrity i don't even
03:32:14.160
know i mean but he's right someone thinks that no matter who they are they're hot no matter what so
03:32:19.920
there's gonna be someone that's not a that's not a dunk he's an average looking dude that's the
03:32:23.920
point yeah but i've forgotten i've reached job though so it's i think i know you're like
03:32:30.720
okay someone who's like kind of like he's like good looking but he's not hot
03:32:35.200
like there's a standard of like okay he's a really pretty boy like he's hot like like andrew garfield
03:32:41.840
um i don't know pretty boy i don't know like vinnie hacker he's pretty and his body is hot like
03:32:49.120
he's he's a pretty boy is that guy you don't know any hacker you don't know oh that's him that white
03:32:56.800
boy yeah for him like it's like he's he's a good-looking guy okay how about steve bushemmy
03:33:02.880
who oh oh oh the guy from um i need a picture or something from grown-ups that hangs upside down
03:33:08.800
on the thing in the pool yeah he's like he's old yeah he's an older what you call him i mean
03:33:16.160
like you're american general chad i don't know or like brad pitt when he was like in his 20s you
03:33:22.160
think brad pitt was average no i didn't i never said average like i'm just comparing like the hot
03:33:27.360
like i feel like all the definitions of average are different yeah yeah and then the average would
03:33:33.120
be here well we'll just have you guys answer the question whatever you think average
03:33:40.640
would you would you date an average looking average guy yes i have you have but would you
03:33:51.760
you just you said would you date an average right just because you've done something in
03:33:57.280
the past doesn't mean you're going to continue doing it so like moving forward like would you
03:34:00.880
right now my preference no okay what about you yeah um i feel like yeah but you were 10 but no okay i
03:34:12.320
said i thought you got i thought you got you got a date of 10 right i said that was my confident answer
03:34:16.640
but okay i'm being for real like eight oh well don't let me walk you back no don't let me ruin
03:34:22.480
your confidence no no i'm not tripping at all okay but um yeah i would say yeah would you date an average
03:34:27.760
guy i guess hmm would i i don't i don't think so like if he's right for me he's right for me you know
03:34:37.120
like sure that's it i would based off personality okay i would not would not be an average guy yeah i would
03:34:44.640
okay well you're married so okay uh not entirely i don't know where i was going with that but i do
03:34:54.880
think it's the case like here's the i'm not saying that you guys i'm not making a statement about the
03:34:59.840
panel here but i think a lot of average women don't want average men i'm not saying you guys are average
03:35:06.560
but like that's kind of the point i'm trying to make of yeah like it's important to know where
03:35:09.840
you stand in the dating marketplace because if you're like angling to get a certain like caliber
03:35:15.920
of guy and he's outside of your league he's there's a good chance he's just going to use you for sex and
03:35:21.440
never commit to you that's true and like i don't like to see women getting used for sex like i so yeah
03:35:27.920
i don't know so i just understand i feel like it's also important to really weigh your your like
03:35:33.440
prospects on like who you feel like you are as a person like you can't really want something from
03:35:37.360
someone that you can't give back like i'm so big on like reciprocating and i know if i if i know i
03:35:42.160
can't reciprocate what this guy is giving me or like what he wants i'm not gonna put myself in a
03:35:46.640
situation out of fairness to him that's so true i kind of think though maybe part of this is that
03:35:55.360
i think there's a not all women but like there's a decent amount of women who would rather have the
03:36:01.440
divided attention of like a really attractive guy than commitment from an average guy or like
03:36:08.640
a guy on your level or whatever and actually going around the table like would you prefer
03:36:14.960
like let's say i'm trying to think of like somebody really out like famous or some
03:36:19.120
shit super attractive michael b jordan right so okay for you here i'll go to you i'll go to you
03:36:25.680
immediately like would you rather be dating michael b jordan but he's got let's say you're even the
03:36:32.240
main chick but he's got side girls would you prefer that over dating like some average no okay all right
03:36:37.920
no that's disrespectful to yourself well a lot of people would be yeah that's kind of crazy
03:36:46.480
to each their own to each it's just a personal preference right personal i think i think that
03:36:50.960
this is the the issue with the the modern dating landscape i feel like if you stay i feel like it's
03:36:55.040
so normalized with like the side chicks oh side guys sneaky link stuff that people don't really
03:37:00.400
realize that like the the huge depth that being in a relationship actually like puts on people and
03:37:05.680
they they use it as like oh playing around like oh i'm messing with him messing with that but you
03:37:10.560
got to think about the future and like going out with that mindset that you're not going to find
03:37:13.680
happiness you're not going to find a stable relationship if you carry that on with like
03:37:17.920
how you're living today yeah i don't think that it like like finding someone based on their
03:37:24.480
attraction is going to bring you any level of yeah i think if you're so yeah yeah if you're solely just
03:37:29.360
going based off the attractiveness of like how they look then obviously that's like that's a problem
03:37:34.800
that's a problem yeah yeah that's an issue like nobody wants to walk around with somebody that's
03:37:38.800
like a glow yeah yeah yeah unless you're really into i'm gonna read a couple chats and then we'll get
03:37:44.160
into the next thing uh actually cindy can you see it i cannot cindy can you read this thanks for the
03:37:52.000
extra spicy guest today i know brian has had a hard time finding men able to contribute as much as the
03:37:59.520
usual strumpets uh thank you lol paladins thank you man appreciate it and then we have another one
03:38:06.960
thank you knight errant thank you fallicious the delusion of human self divinity religion values and
03:38:15.440
god is a construct of society that ultimately stems from error management theory basic evolutionary
03:38:30.480
do you want to give a 20 second answer to that andrew uh well you can't really give a 20 second
03:38:37.680
answer to it because we would have to get into metaphysics and epistemology and um i doubt that
03:38:44.160
anybody who promotes evolutionary psychology knows anything about either of those things or they
03:38:48.480
wouldn't promote evolutionary psychology so do you want to just call that guy d gen no i i'm not sure
03:38:55.120
that he's a d gen i'm kidding i mean it sounded like a good faith criticism and those are the kinds
03:39:01.520
of arguments i like to have but um but also you're a d gen right so thank you knight errant i we appreciate
03:39:09.760
the uh message uh can you read this one uh can you read this one rating scale beyonce is a 8 kelly
03:39:16.400
roland a 9 kevin samuels from kevin samuels of you are an eight or above you would have scouts
03:39:25.120
hunting you down for modeling contracts for the cover of top magazines not necessarily not necessarily
03:39:31.840
yeah not necessarily if you look at modeling i don't think he's i think he's right i think he's
03:39:37.440
right no that's not true because i'm adding if you look at modeling pages look at the models thank you
03:39:43.360
tommy what's up see like different models and in all shapes and forms well let's say like let's i mean
03:39:50.640
yeah there's like those crazy calvin klein ads which are super like psyop bullshit but if like we go back
03:39:57.280
like 10 years ago 20 years ago yeah you didn't see those like crazy ridiculous like
03:40:06.640
you know do you know what i'm talking about like the calvin klein ads where it's like
03:40:11.920
this what like beluga whale oh yeah okay but that's still a form of like you know body positivity
03:40:23.200
so what what like i shouldn't be talking though they want if calvin klein wants to picture that
03:40:32.320
as a campaign they can do that because that's what they want to do is it going to make controversy i
03:40:38.320
suppose they can yeah it's going to make controversy because people like you are going to have opinionated
03:40:43.440
opinions about it also like 20 years ago there was the big difference between supermodels versus uber
03:40:49.680
models and being a supermodel like for example just like for a random brand maybe chanel they
03:40:56.560
would all have to look quite the same and look plain and a lot of brands were looking for tall blonde
03:41:03.440
european woman and they had to have like no special distinction but then like an uber model would be
03:41:10.320
like naomi campbell who has like a very distinctive look so it's like there's like a difference with that
03:41:15.680
so like model's an umbrella term but you can have like different things uh we're gonna get into uh
03:41:23.840
wait hold on oh we got to do the bumble segment and then really quick twitch guys go to twitch.tv
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03:41:47.680
was that sad uh friday we did the test stream over there and on our clips channel on youtube so uh it
03:41:53.840
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03:41:57.920
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03:42:04.160
what was the other was there something another tab we're going to pull up oh there's that tick tock uh not
03:42:08.560
yet we are we're going to do bumble and then we're going to wait hold on before we do the bumble
03:42:14.560
segment the bumble segment's a fun segment that's for the whole panel uh i'll do a few of my uh pre
03:42:22.160
show notes here so from sophia you provided for us you wanted to talk about dating related topics we
03:42:28.320
could talk about body count always being brought up and misogynistic men uh so let me see what the
03:42:34.560
notes were specifically what specifically did you want to talk about when it came to misogynistic
03:42:38.480
men um mainly the fact that like if it was a normal woman who worked like yeah just scoot
03:42:48.160
it to the edge of the table if it was um just like a normal girl who works like a nine to five and
03:42:54.960
went out on the weekend sort of thing um and she secretly slept with a lot of men but told everyone
03:43:03.760
that she only slept with like a couple men which is a very known thing for women to do yep well
03:43:11.920
personally i know quite a lot of women do lie about the body counts um and then they're very quiet about
03:43:18.560
it um and then there's girls who yeah will do it for not for workers in that way but will be very open
03:43:26.480
about the amount of people they've slept with um very open about like the body and sexual activity
03:43:34.000
um and it's mainly like misogynistic men who target into girls who do only fans and
03:43:43.360
so on so on well let's separate this out here a little bit so there was the body count component of
03:43:48.880
this so you said that women some women will have a tendency to lie about their body count they'll
03:43:54.160
actually have a higher body count but tell men that it's low yeah or whatever but then like
03:43:59.520
obviously men judge women who have high body counts and being open about it when
03:44:06.080
normally it's the quiet shy girls who wouldn't sleep with anyone who's actually slept with more
03:44:11.440
people than people who are honest about it no i mean you're not wrong uh we actually had one girl on
03:44:17.040
the show who you would have never thought that she had a high body count she's very very quiet very
03:44:23.040
mellow very um seemed you know shy introverted reserved and then like but she's actually very honest with uh
03:44:31.360
her answer to the body count question i think she she was like 19 and she'd slept with like i think
03:44:36.960
it was like 30 35 guys which had voice crack uh which at 35 or excuse me which had 19 is uh
03:44:44.560
she's either 18 or 19 it's pretty high uh 35 30 to 35 is pretty high so you are right that like
03:44:53.680
sometimes it's the uh the unsuspecting ones like you wouldn't suspect that she had a high body count
03:44:59.520
um i mean i do think it's bad for you to lie about your to lie to a new partner especially if it's
03:45:06.080
you know you're starting off the relationship on lie and then the other thing is like maybe some guys
03:45:12.160
wouldn't care if they found out down the road although i do think you are depriving the man of
03:45:16.240
you're depriving them of making an informed decision about being in a relationship with
03:45:21.680
you by lying uh some guys might feel duped or tricked or deceived and um i think the big thing
03:45:29.760
though me like me for example if a girl told me that she had a body count of five and i started you
03:45:35.200
know i dated her for six months a year and i was interested in taking her seriously and then like
03:45:39.840
like either she told me down the road or i just you know there's you can sometimes find out either
03:45:47.440
oh you you were with like if it's a small like community so it's like okay well you were with
03:45:51.680
this guy this guy this guy you start doing the math and shit at least for me that's an instant
03:45:56.800
dump i'm breaking up with you i think that's valid yeah why it's the past well it's so it's the
03:46:05.040
lying lying so it's the lying but like let's say she told me up front right okay but then yeah i
03:46:11.840
would still not date her but then this is what i'm trying to get most men will not take a girl with a
03:46:17.440
high body count serious at the start but then if he's already if she lies then it's all right
03:46:24.960
well so i i kind of i think i if you take a more serious if that makes sense but she's still
03:46:31.200
done that all in the past so are you saying that women should lie about how many men they've slept
03:46:36.160
with no i'm just saying like a lot of women feel the need to lie about the body counts because of
03:46:42.000
how men go on about it and that's why a lot of girls do lie about it and most people
03:46:47.840
you're saying that we shouldn't trust what women say about can you take her phone well yeah i am to
03:46:52.000
be fine nick take her phone you are the are you doing cindy
03:46:58.560
i'm sorry to stop the show like that but why i don't know how you you're like swiping looking at
03:47:03.200
your own cindy wrecked the whole thing simp and cindy you know you think you would hold on i'm not
03:47:09.600
going to kick you off the show but go stand in the corner for five minutes no stand in the corner
03:47:14.000
no yeah well doug wear the cap simp and cindy it's ridiculous you ruined the whole show you
03:47:21.120
stopped all the dialogue okay you can you can go stand in the corner you have to wear that for five
03:47:25.360
minutes that's fair put it on five minutes and you got to spin the little helicopter on yeah you got
03:47:33.520
to spin the little you got to spin it put it on top it's been the helicopter oh it'll fit
03:47:37.760
it yeah it'll go yes sophia spin it yeah there you go spinning let let sophia spin that what are
03:47:45.440
you doing cindy god damn there you go all right you got word for five minutes all right countdown
03:47:51.200
starting now all right there we go yeah so anyway that's where we were before we were so rudely
03:47:58.800
interrupted by simp and cindy you were saying that we should not trust women's body count yeah because
03:48:04.960
does it feel a reason to lie about it because of how men go on with the whole i wouldn't sleep with
03:48:11.120
someone no not that the wouldn't take anyone serious if the body count was over like three
03:48:18.800
and that's why most women lie about it but then okay hang on we'll get into this in a second
03:48:24.960
all right um are we are we gonna read that one or i don't i don't know okay well i guess i guess
03:48:34.400
we'll just get we'll just get back into this um i'm crying anyway so stop it stop
03:48:46.000
you're making you deserve all this simp and cindy i was just checking my i just posted on instagram
03:48:56.240
this morning i was just trying to check my comments on my instagram picture seeing how it's doing
03:49:03.840
okay okay okay i can't i can't even okay it's too much what the fuck are you doing okay
03:49:22.640
well on that topic i think that if a woman lies about like her body count then she should
03:49:30.480
accept the consequences in lying that you know you should be honest and you know if you're ashamed
03:49:36.640
of it well then like you got to work on that because that is your body count no but what about
03:49:41.360
just normal women no that's no that's what i'm saying like if you have a high six months down
03:49:46.720
the line and then he figures and he goes okay and then if he doesn't want to be with you then that
03:49:51.280
is something you have to accept because that's a a line of boundary that the man might okay okay
03:49:57.360
would you stop blowing the asian woman can you stop blowing oh my gosh now he's saying
03:50:02.400
asian woman so like it's so it's okay like the gag was good for a second you're gonna be on twitter
03:50:08.160
canceled now you're now you're now you're now you're canceled canceled for calling someone what i was
03:50:14.080
trying to say was that you know if a good a good healthy relationship shouldn't be starting off or
03:50:21.360
stemming off of a lie and if a man who you know let's say you did lie and he found out and he
03:50:29.760
still respected you in the way if he wants to make that decision still keep on seeing you then that's
03:50:34.960
great but if he decides not to then that's fair game that's just how it goes yeah it's like a
03:50:40.080
preference yeah yeah yeah it's like the same thing oh sorry no you're good it's the same thing like
03:50:47.760
if a guy were to lie right like yeah for sure the same repercussions it doesn't change just because
03:50:52.640
of your gender yeah like when when when my husband somebody hang on can somebody jangle some keys in
03:50:58.320
front of this chick or something and you're like can you get some keys just jangle them in front of her
03:51:03.120
but that why but that like would that take care of this problem brian do you have some keys you can
03:51:10.000
jangle i have something even better wait nick hide hide andrew actually wait hold on the stream was
03:51:15.360
getting quilly i just i just erupted i've got a you can put andrew back on i want to see his what
03:51:21.040
he thinks of this um i got a laser point i don't know if they can see that it's a laser thing like you
03:51:36.400
you can't lie i just made i just made this dream way more entertaining than it was before okay okay
03:51:41.360
it was getting quilly i have no idea what that is but okay it was cool did you just like did you
03:51:47.600
just make that word up no it's it's quilly if you're a streamer you know no it's not it's willy
03:51:53.120
it's quilly look up the word no it's dilly and billy quilly means it's getting it's getting people
03:51:58.080
are sleeping all right whether i go up for five seconds and you guys are losing your minds uh
03:52:04.640
where were we i can ask yourself so right you you meet this woman she lies to you about her body
03:52:12.160
count six months down the line it comes out but you're you're happy you've got everything planned
03:52:17.680
you're planning on marrying this girl but it comes out that it's a bit higher than she said
03:52:21.840
are you leaving the relationship when you say a bit higher what do you mean like all right say
03:52:26.080
she told me she said five but it's 25. she said five minutes yeah i got an answer but you're happy
03:52:33.440
you planned your future all that yep you don't know these men that she slept with yep
03:52:38.720
what's your what's your let me even add a couple other uh scenarios to this let's say
03:52:44.480
let's say let's say it's the week before the marriage oh that's crazy let's say just to add
03:52:52.160
just to add on it's the week before the marriage and she tells me i'm calling off the marriage and
03:52:57.680
i'm breaking up after them yeah i'd feel like that whole relationship was a lie based it's built it's
03:53:02.320
all of a lie that's what else and then i have to think that's kind of is 25 actually true right like
03:53:07.200
what else is she lying about what else is she lying about that hat was a bad idea i know that's
03:53:18.720
it's good that she's entertained though it's good that you know it's good it's been five minutes yet
03:53:25.040
all right okay all right why don't you why don't you guys sit down and
03:53:27.600
let's get back to the show okay brian you gotta you're gonna have to take the hat away i think
03:53:37.840
all right cindy take the hat off pass it back sophia's done no no no
03:53:48.160
i don't know how how you guys are so entertained have you guys never seen this kind of hat before
03:53:53.440
no dude cindy you don't know how to spin shit like we're blowing it out you missed it
03:53:59.840
she's gonna like oh my god cindy terrible technique
03:54:05.440
okay cindy we get it you're like quirky and oh my god all right cindy do me a favor
03:54:13.120
and reverse it the other way around oh my gosh i should wear it like this
03:54:21.520
i love okay so grab something the bit the yep cool i want it baby
03:54:30.960
all right so the yep the bit is played out so cindy why don't you do me a favor take it off her head
03:54:54.400
this is not the kind of woman you want to date boys this is like the type of quarrelsome
03:54:57.920
bullshit they'll just drive you insane oh yeah yeah i feel like you it's like
03:55:03.360
no not really go for a gal who had this fucking bratty shit it's kind of annoying to be honest
03:55:10.160
oh she bumped the fucking camera because she's being a fucking idiot my ass was too big
03:55:13.920
no yeah yeah no don't touch it you're gonna fuck it up more oh my god this troll is out of control
03:55:21.520
brian out of control it's time it's time you just call her a troll yeah troll
03:55:27.840
troll troll for sure hold on wait what do you mean
03:55:35.040
what do you mean i mean this troll needs to get the fuck out of here she's hijacking the show we
03:55:40.880
have all these other great gals who've come from all over the place want to get their stories out
03:55:45.040
they want to talk they want you know they want us to engage with them and she's just hijacked the
03:55:50.320
entire thing now she's wrecking the camera equipment right she had a
03:55:53.760
mr boatwright donated 200 it's like i don't know if you know this but i consulted a whiteboard and
03:56:00.640
found out that 10 plus 5 is 15 okay okay yeah i kind of i kind of like i kind of try to give her a
03:56:09.520
chance like playfully with the hat to redeem herself just like instead of me just kicking her right then
03:56:15.040
and there i was trying to give her a chance to redeem herself but uh it is i mean she just refused uh
03:56:21.680
where's yeah i'm sorry but you got you yeah you know i know uh cindy unfortunately yeah you've
03:56:26.240
just been too disruptive like we just got to ask you to leave madison's going to take your spot so
03:56:30.400
what how am i being disruptive because what do you mean how am i being disruptive
03:56:36.160
you were the one that gave me the hat yeah but like yeah we did
03:56:40.640
we can tell you to start messing with camera equipment yeah you're getting yeah but you're getting
03:56:46.080
out of your chair i told look i specifically told you hey just grab the hat give it back to me
03:56:50.560
i know but you're just not giving me the hat and so okay so but me giving you the hat
03:56:54.240
i wasn't spinning it before me yeah but me giving you that me giving you the hat was like me giving
03:56:59.680
you an out instead of having to kick you i was like okay do this stupid thing i'm not going to kick
03:57:03.840
you off the show right now i'm so confused because what's there to be confused about i've asked you
03:57:09.520
politely to leave my phone and then you gave me the hat and said sit there with in five minutes
03:57:13.760
get out of the chair look and get the decision's been made so we can get to the rest of the
03:57:18.560
interesting women and not the trolls it's all right cindy i wasn't even trolling look that's
03:57:23.760
fine but the decision's already been made kind of what's even trolling what i never i said that
03:57:30.960
i wasn't even trying to troll okay cindy look let's go just go come on cindy please don't make this
03:57:38.080
like a thing cindy it's not a big deal we're not making a big scene but just just leave you've
03:57:42.640
been kind of disruptive and trolling so just go can i say something no just leave no get out just
03:57:50.480
get up and leave your permission to be here okay look now i'm trespassing you your permission to be
03:57:56.240
here has been revoked can you just get out of your get up out of your chair just walk out don't make a
03:58:00.560
scene it's not a big deal thank you for coming but just get up and leave dude what are you doing
03:58:08.000
she's like i'm trying to help you move the camera can you stop cindy you're being trespassed do you
03:58:15.520
understand i've already explained it to you look not not yet look cindy it's not a big deal you've
03:58:23.280
been disrupted can you read can you read the tos did i break any of those rules yo because you said i could
03:58:29.200
if i want to hold on hold on if i want to kick anybody out of here for any reason i can't you don't
03:58:36.800
need to like i don't need any justification for you asked to leave my property like i said i've
03:58:42.800
trespassed you i know but i came here and i drove here two hours yeah you've been here on the show
03:58:47.520
for most of the time but now you can leave i don't want to perhaps simp and cindy wow do you see how she
03:58:57.520
doesn't respect hold on hold on she doesn't she's i just told her no and she's continuing to stay here
03:59:05.040
because you and because like i'm here so now you're trespassing you're actually committing
03:59:11.040
a crime now okay i'm committing a crime dude this chick would like definitely like essay some person
03:59:17.920
like oh that's crazy wait how do we get there wait hold on you said that you could not talk about
03:59:24.480
anything with that yo your consent before our stream you said to not mention anything to do with that
03:59:29.680
your consent to be here you just said that you just you literally my house my rules my house my
03:59:34.800
rules your consent your consent to be here has been revoked maddie you can film too your consent to be
03:59:41.520
here has been revoked kindly get up and leave i'm not going to make a big scene about it just get up and
03:59:46.800
leave you just gonna keep sitting there no you're not yes i am no you're not this is my house you
03:59:57.520
can't do that yes i am now you're not yes i am not yet nick yes i am look you do realize that right
04:00:05.760
now you're breaking a law how am i breaking a law come on it's called trespassing because we asked you
04:00:10.480
to leave leave technically we could forcibly remove you i don't want to have to do that please don't make a
04:00:16.480
scene just get up and we're not going we're not going to do that what we're going to do okay but
04:00:20.160
i've done nothing don't like look don't escalate it it's not it doesn't matter just leave just get
04:00:25.200
out let's go dude you're holding other great women here who we want to get to you're holding
04:00:31.440
up the whole time to come out on the show they want to have their voices heard unbelievable you've been
04:00:35.760
a but you weren't even literally literally said yourself that the house shut up shut up and get out
04:00:41.200
just get the out stop talking get out get out don't make a scene cindy stop making a scene just
04:00:48.000
like get up and get out i'm making a scene yeah you are listen okay can you read the chat what are
04:00:53.680
they saying stop like i've done nothing cindy if somebody was in your house and they asked you to
04:00:57.840
leave doesn't okay but you invited me here and like so what am i supposed to like yeah but okay now you
04:01:04.160
have been uninvited what what's the american she doesn't understand like just basic courtesy and
04:01:12.080
decency and logic bro cindy get up and leave no no i think i'm the law
04:01:21.360
okay so here's the situation here's the situation wait wait guys stop stop stop stop
04:01:36.960
here's the situation this is my property i've trespassed you i've asked you politely multiple
04:01:42.800
times are you just trying to do it just because like oh it's gonna get views on youtube like oh
04:01:47.920
oh she got she got kicked out no you've been disruptive cindy i've asked people to leave
04:01:54.080
the show before they get up they don't make a big scene they just leave you're being like it's not a
04:02:01.120
big deal people leave the show like it was no no there's not there's not going to be a negotiation
04:02:06.400
i've made my decision there's no going back just get up and leave it's not a big deal
04:02:11.680
it's not a big deal just get up and leave pack your shits and go yo do you guys want her to leave
04:02:17.920
look at that the cock the cocky hey andrew come on be nice get the fuck out of here
04:02:26.640
andrew mate we just want to finish the show i think i've been respectful i just want a bit
04:02:30.480
respect about you andrew i don't know hang on hang on that that's not disrespectful if it's a
04:02:35.040
cock by your own admission right i'm not being disrespectful to you okay
04:02:39.840
that'd be like calling me a debate bro that's that's true dude cindy just get up just get up and
04:02:45.600
leave but you have been respectful i do grant no no i appreciate the the argument okay well
04:02:52.080
here's what i'm going to do all your previous shows i mean if
04:02:56.800
i don't think i don't know if this is going to be enough um motivation for you we're promoting like
04:03:01.840
your your instagram is linked in all the other shows i'm just going to take you out of the
04:03:06.320
description on all those other shows because now you're like it's one thing for me to just like ask you
04:03:10.320
to leave but but you do you real do you realize what you've done to our relationship you're you're
04:03:15.520
never if you're kicking me out i'm not going to be done that's literally saying you don't like oh
04:03:20.480
no you we won't have you back to disrupt the show oh that's great i'm just saying in general
04:03:24.720
on the internet like our relationship you're not going to dm me and tell me dude honestly i would
04:03:30.640
have if if you just left i would have been happy to actually invite you back i would have
04:03:35.760
still invited you back but now you're making it a huge thing we have a relationship and we're
04:03:39.840
supposed to leave it on a good term so why would you just say that on stream like kick me out what
04:03:44.880
are you talking about you know what i'm saying you're you're like right now you're taking me
04:03:50.480
out and if i leave right speak into the mic if you're gonna speak and then a week later i get a dm
04:03:55.760
from you oh cindy can you come on what what's the point you kicked me out off your show i'm not
04:04:00.160
going to be in like a well it's one idiot to go back on your show because you could like seriously
04:04:06.560
i've invited people back on the show but that's kind of rage quit and i've yeah but that's stupid
04:04:11.840
that's dumb that's stupid you just made yourself look like if you're playing the part of getting
04:04:17.760
kicked out and then to go back on again what does that make you look like desperate i don't care
04:04:22.880
i'm not that desperate okay then you'll never be on the show again i don't care
04:04:26.960
gerald donated two hundred dollars there's more than enough video footage to press charges
04:04:33.200
cindy no one cares fuck off look dude yeah just gerald said it
04:04:45.040
it's really simple okay then press charges call the police you're really gonna call the police
04:04:51.040
tell them your reasoning it's not even that tell them what call them call call the police
04:04:56.480
call the police i'm interested okay do it right but i'd rather you just leave okay do it call the
04:05:03.200
police no i'd rather you just leave so we don't waste their time with this
04:05:07.760
i wasn't wasting i literally went right back to the scene and i accidentally bumped into the camera footage
04:05:12.800
oh they spilled again oh my god let's just take one second at a time yeah
04:05:28.160
you're just making it worse for yourself like it doesn't make any sense yeah i feel like it's dragging
04:05:31.520
on a little bit too long bro be like okay fine you don't have to like me you can fucking hate me
04:05:36.000
i'm i never just like you but it's like i'm just asking look i was polite everybody who asked me
04:05:41.520
about you i've always said good things about you so then fine talk about me from here on out don't
04:05:45.760
care i've been i asked you politely to leave i didn't say okay out bitch i just said leave that's
04:05:51.840
it okay but you're still telling me to leave a podcast that you invited me on and that i'm going
04:05:56.880
i was this chick and you asked her to leave your place and she refused to leave like
04:06:00.320
fucking ridiculous look this is my property i've trespassed you you're trespassing just get
04:06:05.680
up and that's like you're basically saying you can fucking hate me for the rest of your life
04:06:10.160
honestly i don't even think me kicking you off is a big thing we could have had you back if you had
04:06:15.120
just gone up that's besides the point though look we got the whole panel here you've been holding
04:06:19.280
up the show for like 10 minutes at this point you can say fuck brian i hate brian be respectful to
04:06:24.240
the other panelists who came i was i never did anything to any of them but your refusal to leave
04:06:28.560
you're the one that gave me the hat what it was started this what started all this because the hat
04:06:33.360
this is gaslighting it's not gaslight it literally all started because you gave me that hot yeah
04:06:38.400
because you were on your phone against the rules okay you could just tuck my phone that's it that's
04:06:43.280
what we did you've been on your phone too you've been on your phone multiple times from your show
04:06:47.120
and i'm coordinating other girls that's been on their phone before so there's not really a really
04:06:51.440
a reasoning for you to be disrespectful to me i've kicked off other women before just get the
04:06:55.840
fuck off the show get up and fucking leave there's no negotiation here just get the
04:07:02.400
fuck you only because he's listening this idiot right here he's like oh she's a troll like it's
04:07:07.680
too much i can't handle this you can't have a little fun in your life you ought to be serious
04:07:12.560
and smoking your cigarette bro like every two seconds so about 10 minutes just get the fuck up and leave
04:07:30.160
i don't know what i want to see what the chat has to say
04:07:33.840
this has to be ridiculous the united states of whatever podcast does not negotiate with terrorists
04:07:41.360
get your ass out of the chair and get the out of the studio the police will be called and you will
04:07:47.200
be arrested i came here in peace not a joke it's not a joke i don't know why you think
04:07:51.120
it's a joke get out two hundred dollars i think it is a joke get the fuck up and get out because
04:07:58.080
your eyes are out what are you doing at this point you could be considered dangerous you've been asked
04:08:04.400
to leave multiple times get out of the studio get out of the studio stop talking get up and get the
04:08:10.880
fuck out what are you doing i mean we can't it's not a joke like what are you doing get up and leave
04:08:17.200
get up and leave we did get up and leave how many more times does this need to be stated to you
04:08:25.120
emphatically we have video evidence you will be trespassed we don't want to do that leave this
04:08:29.520
okay what's the evidence so the evidence that you've been asked to leave multiple times for what
04:08:34.880
reason you know what i don't are you are you dumb i don't need a reason to i could if i asked anybody
04:08:40.960
here to okay but there has to be a reason no there doesn't yes there is a reason to kick me out hey
04:08:47.280
let me ask you a question if somebody's at your house and you ask them to leave most of the time
04:08:53.040
like my friends would be like oh like i have something to do my friends are coming over not that desperate
04:08:59.120
lol see you in two months dumb cunt so like usually like if my friends would be like oh yeah oh yeah
04:09:10.800
oh yeah so like you have to go because i have you know gas coming over i'm gonna leave
04:09:17.920
oh well we have guests who are already here that we'd like to get to can you get out yeah just leave
04:09:23.840
look at these nice ladies you're ruining their great time how am i was like ruining when you
04:09:30.880
literally because you won't get up and you're dragging it on right if i could have been we could
04:09:34.720
have been escalate this listen if you escalate this we have to make an example like we have to make an
04:09:40.240
example by actually calling the police having you trespassed don't be seriously just get up
04:09:46.240
i think like i would have left if he didn't i can't hear you unless you're talking to the mic i said i
04:09:51.520
would have i would have peacefully left if you didn't threaten me and because you threatened
04:09:55.440
me yes you did you literally said you're going to call the police you literally said you call
04:10:01.280
the police you're committing that's right right so you're threatening me so i'm sitting here stop
04:10:07.680
you're committing a crime you're literally committing a crime yeah i'm committing a crime
04:10:11.920
are you dumb you literally are how am i committing a crime you know what there's literally proof
04:10:17.520
there's literally you're an idiot you're an idiot of you inviting me over to do an exchange for
04:10:22.640
content to content it's not a threat to be like if you if you don't stop i would have left if you
04:10:28.080
didn't threaten me i did i asked you to leave without threatening you yes you did you threatened
04:10:33.040
i've never said you you after being you literally threatened that i would be locked up if i didn't
04:10:40.480
leave you know that's what's going to happen unfortunately for you watch the police come and she goes
04:10:46.080
cuff me i've never gone i've never gone it's sad but i mean it's kind of stupid just saying
04:11:00.160
wait what'd you say andrew i said it's really silly for you to escalate it that far but i mean
04:11:06.800
there's no reason for you to do so i would just actually get up and go i would not stick around
04:11:11.600
for the cops it's not a great idea nobody but i didn't do anything i don't i didn't do it doesn't
04:11:16.640
matter what you perceive as being wrong what you perceive as being wrong doesn't matter
04:11:21.040
you've been asked to leave you're trespassing on private property get up out of your chair and get
04:11:25.680
out i was invited i signed i signed the nda i signed the nda leave then here's the nda get out
04:11:37.040
get out bro this is get out this is like the crazy entitlement that we have with people man it's crazy
04:11:43.360
what kind of entitlement you gave me a colorful hat that looked like coyote uh uh caillou it's
04:11:51.920
nice of you to wear the hat and then and then while i was wearing the hat andrew was laughing the
04:11:56.800
hole through and leave and giggling he was like oh stop talking and leave the studio you're out of
04:12:04.080
control right you're clearly mentally unstable you need to get up and leave the studio immediately
04:12:11.360
oh my god there's no way you just said that studio immediately stop talking get up and leave
04:12:19.280
get up he's recording me leave the studio this is all bad for you just get up and leave the studio
04:12:25.200
stop talking get up and leave here's another 69 staying here without consent plus three other
04:12:31.280
200 super chats she was like he's recording me without consent but yet you're here without consent
04:12:37.360
i'm gonna have to take you up will you just go get up and go why would that be i literally signed
04:12:42.720
the paper what are you yeah but part of that paper is to not be on the phone yeah just just leave
04:13:09.200
what's uh what's your favorite fast food favorite fast food i'm gonna say like chick chick-fil-a
04:13:36.560
chick-fil-a chick-fil-a oh no yeah i'm low-key in and out
04:13:43.760
wait do you guys have shake shack you know what yeah that's cool i feel like i feel like i'm a
04:13:47.120
basic girl i like i like in and out i like in and out but in and out hits after a night and i
04:13:52.880
like the most the more we talk about food the more hungry you control your woman in here no she's
04:14:21.680
all right she's making money you can't do it it's the paycheck no no come on look we got we got to
04:14:30.640
adhere to to us come on like we've we've had a great combo back and forth let's not let's not take
04:14:37.120
it to the next level we got rid of the trolls so that we can get to everybody else so that we can
04:14:41.600
talk to everybody else right i thought that would have to the smoothie spilt oh my god dude
04:14:52.160
i don't know i don't know why not me i didn't spill it
04:15:12.720
yeah i accidentally spilt it my bad but it wasn't my drink
04:15:16.160
oh we're blaming you anyway well as a mexican that's easy to clean
04:15:23.680
nice little pink pink scrub a scrub daddy maybe some bleach it's all good
04:15:32.080
all right guys we had to readjust the cameras this probably looks a little how long we got left
04:15:42.640
it's all good we got a lot left a lot this damn we're gonna keep going yeah now we can actually get
04:15:49.920
to the show right we can talk to everybody so sorry that you guys experienced this sorry about that
04:15:56.720
guys um we we should have honestly just uh had nick uh just escort her out to begin with by the way
04:16:06.160
can we get a shout out to the kid who came over and took care of the problem epic and awesome
04:16:14.400
good job nick good job good job nick nice one nick um madison you're gonna take uh
04:16:21.200
uh once you're done cleaning that up sorry guys we got a terrible fucking spillage naked juice spilled
04:16:27.360
all over the fucking ah the whole fucking thing um i don't know it's gonna be a pain in the ass to
04:16:33.600
deal with that i'll read some of the chats here let's see uh we should have had nick do it soon i
04:16:39.440
wanted to try to give her a chance to just fucking get out without without without us having to
04:16:43.760
fucking physically remove her but did you get a lot of troubles or no not really okay occasionally there's
04:16:50.640
one or two who come on they're hard they're hard always to ferret out but man nick savage nick
04:16:58.480
good job good job w nick in the chat you know the rules all right i'm just getting through some of
04:17:03.680
these chats here hold on one sec guys we got this call the cops yeah i mean technically look uh she was
04:17:14.880
trespassing it's a crime yeah so she's laughing oh you're gonna call the cops over this yeah if you're
04:17:20.480
fucking refusing to leave somebody's private property yes that's trespassing it's a misdemeanor
04:17:25.600
it's a crime can i ask a question what's up you know like gun laws because i'm from england didn't
04:17:29.920
it if someone was trespassing could you put a gun on her uh i don't think the use of force not in
04:17:35.440
california okay no yeah not in california we don't have guns in england so i was just wondering that's
04:17:40.320
yeah they don't have guns really in california okay thank you uh fix that if you can maddie um all
04:17:47.840
right you do troll but yeah i'm just gonna get through all these guys really quick we have a
04:17:53.280
bunch of chats here uh hold on one sec boys okay we have jj brian you need a security guard a female
04:17:59.600
one so they can't claim any me too bullshit this happens way too often uh is what it is um
04:18:04.720
we have had security guards but of course the fucking night that uh some bullshit goes down
04:18:12.480
fucking spencer's not here so gonna need to hire somebody else um is what it is thank you jj
04:18:18.720
appreciate it man uh let's see we have uh look man uh i know this is below the threshold look it is
04:18:30.000
what it is you gotta be very careful like anytime you like this is why like these mega corporations
04:18:36.480
like fucking walmart and uh like retail stores they oftentimes just like let these people
04:18:42.560
fucking just steal because it's like it's a liability at the end of the day to physically
04:18:47.600
intervene because who knows what they're going to claim they're going to claim you touch them
04:18:50.400
inappropriately you hurt them they got injured blah blah blah luckily nick just like kind of stood behind
04:18:55.200
her uh and she actually just kind of fucking just for the most part was pretty cooperative and just
04:19:00.960
fucking left so is what it is but that's because she has the hots for nick let's not kid ourselves
04:19:06.240
right probably probably she was she was simping cindy for nick let's not i mean that's that's how it was
04:19:14.000
and maddie we actually have some of that carpet cleaner i'm pretty sure i brought it so um i
04:19:18.240
paul some of you guys sent in chats unfortunately i'm not going to be able to re-trigger them i'll have to
04:19:22.720
read them some of them have fallen off so uh we'll get to it in just a sec guys i apologize to uh the
04:19:28.960
panel here uh for that i apologize to the viewers that was kind of ridiculous but cindy body positivity
04:19:37.360
is actually a negative to society it's not a positive thing to affirm grossly overweight people
04:19:41.840
and their delusion a true friend will fat shame you or ask you to leave okay thank you thank you we have
04:19:49.760
uh the one from just gerald came through already we have sean erickson here whoa the two dna big
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depositories are attention hose color me shocked yeah i mean she's just dragging that on for attention
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basically so yep and then we have another one i appreciate the message sean erickson thank you man
04:20:12.000
appreciate it and then we have another one from sean erickson coming in here in just a sec
04:20:17.440
whoa cindy the attention hoe dna depository has the iq of an amoeba yeah i mean you can't reason
04:20:23.360
with stupid and uh she just didn't get it so it is what it is what's an amoeba brian the crucible chat
04:20:29.600
demands that i send a tip to nick he was johnny on the spot did a great job so we're going to take care
04:20:36.960
of that too okay yeah they demand it they demanded it nick they demanded it uh send me a text we'll get
04:20:43.840
to send them right over to you all right there you go nick playing uh nick coming in clutch there
04:20:52.400
with the assist yeah it's just a liability on our end like yeah technically look whether it's if it's
04:21:00.560
private property you can forcibly physically remove somebody from your property use necessary force
04:21:06.320
to do so but there's just a liability there and it's a bad look for uh like for me for example to like
04:21:12.800
go ahead and try to like physically remove somebody from the show i could do it but like optics wise uh
04:21:20.320
there are considerations there beyond what is legally justified so yep did we pull this one
04:21:26.240
up nick or okay all right um oops we're not going to do 69 tts yet uh but i think we'll drop it and then
04:21:34.160
we'll do the we're doing it live folks maddie were you able to find the carpet cleaner thing
04:21:39.680
so you have to squeeze it okay cool cool cool all right
04:21:53.520
yeah maddie's i don't know if uh nope okay from right there let me get into some of my pre-show
04:21:59.120
notes here we'll get through everything and then we'll get into uh a different segment oh you can you
04:22:04.160
can leave it there maddie's gonna yeah maddie's gonna sit there yeah no that's fine you can leave it
04:22:09.040
there uh let's see alex uh you wanted to talk about hold on how the hookup culture in santa
04:22:18.480
barbara and how it feels like high school with all the people in the group hooking up with each
04:22:22.480
other and that whole thing confuses me because how are they not bugged about hooking up with the same
04:22:26.640
guys so is that what's happening like so people in the same friend group they're all like kind of
04:22:30.800
hooking up with each other yeah so it feels like high school where it's like that one big group
04:22:35.200
that just shares each other and and um i just think it's like i mean like yeah that's college
04:22:44.160
but like i've only experienced here in santa barbara and when i tell my friends about like
04:22:49.120
specific situations my friends that go to other colleges they're always like wow like santa barbara
04:22:55.120
seems like it's not real and it's really not yeah it's not um it feels like one big like reality
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show and it's just an interesting demographic here okay so you said that you you're kind of baffled
04:23:10.640
by like how fast paced it is no no not fast paced but how just like mixed it is here with like how people
04:23:19.680
hook up i don't know it's it's kind of what we talked about before where it's like
04:23:26.080
in the sense that people might not know someone's name and then they'll hook up and i'm just like
04:23:30.640
not used to that but then also like why do we have to hook up in the same group
04:23:37.200
i know that's weird or like roommates but i'm talking specifically about roommates too
04:23:41.600
like roommates are messing with the same people not like just people that i know or like they'll be
04:23:46.960
messing with like multiple guys in the same house so i just don't understand how like someone would be
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okay with that yeah okay who y'all need in santa barbara i swear i live i live in a really interesting
04:24:01.200
place where do you live can can the mods um who are in the chat can you guys find me the other episodes
04:24:08.080
that cindy was on um i'm gonna take her out of the description on all her other appearances too um
04:24:14.640
i wouldn't have done that just doing a kick actually i would have probably just left her
04:24:18.400
her thing in the description even for today's show but when you pull that shit then it's fucking
04:24:25.760
you've just burned a bridge so she's out for she's gonna get removed from all the other stuff so um
04:24:32.800
if mods can find that for me uh having a panelist get up and start cleaning would be far more fulfilling
04:24:37.760
for most men watching wait what yeah notice none of the noticed even the girl who spilled the
04:24:44.640
shit didn't like do the considerate thing oh no i did i did clean up yeah i did get out of there
04:24:51.120
because yeah yeah so i couldn't clean it up okay but trust me i got i gotta get ahead of my shoulders
04:24:57.280
i would do that stuff okay yeah you're right nick we were dealing with like two fucking bullshits at
04:25:03.840
the same time okay uh going to michaela here you said that you think you definitely disagree on
04:25:11.040
some topics overall i think we disagree on the standards held for men versus women when it comes
04:25:15.360
to their relationship with sex not that the desire is different but that the standard should be that
04:25:20.560
both withhold until commitment or marriage if religious so what are the uh besides that what are
04:25:26.640
the disagreements that you had with myself the show or andrew um i think it was mainly that like
04:25:32.560
i feel like the the more i hear you talking about sure that's your opinion so i would like to give you
04:25:37.120
the space to uh i don't know elaborate i guess on what um the i mean like i feel like you're um
04:25:47.760
you're somewhat okay with like men having like sleeping around never said that okay all right then we don't
04:25:55.360
disagree well brian's position is that there's a separation of standard in society so uh his claim
04:26:04.240
which is which is actually true we we have um an awful lot of data and polling to support this
04:26:10.160
that women view promiscuity in men very differently than how women uh view uh promiscuity in the same
04:26:19.120
light right so essentially we view it in a different way women don't seem to punish men for being
04:26:24.800
promiscuous nearly as much as men tend to punish women for being promiscuous so it's an is claim
04:26:31.440
rather than an ought claim brian's never said that men should be promiscuous rather he just says they're
04:26:36.800
not punished for being promiscuous like women are gotcha well that's good that's good to clarify i think
04:26:42.400
that maybe i've been confused before i'm not in favor of uh male promiscuity just i do think there are
04:26:49.360
some differences between men and women um so yeah yeah well i mean and you you would agree right
04:26:57.120
there's tons of women for instance who if a man is still a virgin when they're 25 or 30 might actually
04:27:02.800
see that as a red flag like there's something wrong with him whereas men tend to value chastity and women
04:27:10.000
even into their 30s they seem to value that quite a bit more you know what i'm saying does that make
04:27:14.480
sense to you absolutely i i definitely um i see what you're saying um but i think it should be that
04:27:21.920
both value chastity if we could put a should on it yeah yeah sure sure should yes but is so as brian's
04:27:31.600
running the dating podcast he's looking at what is true so what we're all talking about for the most
04:27:36.880
part is what is going on and then we kind of make prescriptions based on that yeah but what yeah
04:27:42.800
yeah go ahead i'm sorry no no you're good like like they definitely that is the way it is but it
04:27:47.360
i think that it should change like i'm in the modern dating landscape it is that way but it
04:27:51.520
should change i think that it like if we could if we could change the way that that is viewed we're
04:27:58.160
going to change a lot about how people go about dating generally right now but what do you do about
04:28:04.880
the fact that women see it as a red flag if men do not have sexual partners before them they think of
04:28:12.560
it as being uh well hey uh what what's wrong with you that other women don't desire you it seems to
04:28:19.520
be a difference in distinction in standard how exactly would you fit fix that i'm not sure i i
04:28:25.520
don't come from that that like i don't come from that world view so it's hard for me to say that like
04:28:31.120
my my husband waited for me and i i'm so grateful for that and it was i mean did you wait for him i you
04:28:38.240
know i made i made a mistake in my my teenage years and it wasn't you know it had a lot of shame
04:28:44.480
put on me um but you know moving forward i wanted to make that better and i wanted to be honest with
04:28:50.800
him and tell him you know like even though we both come from the same world view i want to be honest
04:28:56.720
with you and tell you that i made this mistake which actually opened a lot of doors for us to like uh be
04:29:01.840
really honest about like the way that uh our culture has affected each of us individually and
04:29:07.840
then moving forward in our relationship we were able to patch that up and really work toward a
04:29:13.440
more god-honoring relationship yeah sure sure i mean i understand what you're saying yeah i'm just
04:29:19.440
saying that your your worldview is probably more akin to my worldview i understand that but if we're
04:29:27.360
looking at a descriptor for what is true in modernity inside of modern society you'd have to agree
04:29:34.640
that brian is kind of correct in this assessment that women seem to value what is considered the
04:29:42.000
promiscuous omega chad or the guy who gets a ton of women seems to be desired by just as many women
04:29:48.800
where the opposite is not true the woman who sleeps with a lot of men tends to be vilified by what are
04:29:55.360
considered these high quality men right yeah and i feel like maybe it's misplaced ideas of like
04:30:01.920
like leadership in a relationship like i feel like maybe like women value leadership um and then
04:30:10.720
obviously in the bedroom as well they value leadership rather than and i think it's somewhat
04:30:15.120
misplaced because of because of this so like oh experience is important to me whereas it should be
04:30:21.760
you know rewire that it should be leadership is really important to me yeah but how do you but
04:30:27.920
but how do you map the ought on the ought of women should punish men for the promiscuity
04:30:36.080
when they clearly don't seem to think of it as a value they seem to think that the more desired a
04:30:41.360
man is the more attracted they are to said man that seems to almost be intuitive it's kind of strange
04:30:47.920
in a way i don't know exactly how you fix that what do you think you should do to fix it for the ought
04:30:55.040
i think the only way that you can actually fix that worldview is if you change your like
04:31:01.600
if you change your like moral compass because if you're religion yeah i really believe that religion
04:31:08.400
is the only way to fix that because yeah i tend to i tend to agree but okay you do you do recognize that
04:31:15.840
many many women do not follow any sort of religiosity whatsoever but why do you think it is that those
04:31:23.680
women in particular seem to go for those types of men why do you think that is you're saying that uh
04:31:29.840
women you're saying they don't give a shit they don't care so if a guy has oh you know i bagged 100
04:31:36.320
chicks they don't see that the same way that men see it when a woman says i bagged 100 dudes men go oh god
04:31:44.240
that's that's disgusting right but women don't seem to see it the same way yeah yeah i definitely
04:31:49.440
think that that's an issue i think that maybe they think and what you know what these we're fed these
04:31:54.960
thoughts like oh you're not don't even look don't even look for someone who's a virgin because you're
04:31:58.960
not going to find it so don't don't look or they say like oh no you think that so many of these women's
04:32:06.640
claiming that you're an incel what they do is they say if you have not had sex before x age
04:32:13.360
you're an incel and because of the incel rhetoric which has gone around that that is why so many
04:32:20.160
women view chastity and men as being some sort of weakness because they associate it with basement
04:32:26.240
dwelling psychopath incel don't you think that there's a media push towards that uh yeah a media
04:32:32.560
push yeah oh you hit the nail on the head i definitely think there's a media push toward
04:32:36.880
it and i think that that's you know that's an issue and it definitely needs to change
04:32:42.160
is it is it even bad to be an incel is or is it even bad to be chased as a man it seems like
04:32:48.720
that would be a good quality but it seems that there's some indoctrination that it somehow makes
04:32:54.560
you um a bad person or you're seen in a vilified light like oh you can't pull women there must be
04:33:02.240
something wrong with you yeah i mean i think that i don't i've heard the term incel like maybe once
04:33:09.920
or twice um and i think i've only heard like my husband's explained to me really what it is
04:33:16.400
when someone would call someone that um so i involuntarily celibate okay so these are so what
04:33:23.840
but what happens is this kind of great conflation so an involuntarily celibate man is a person who's
04:33:30.320
trying to attract female attention but cannot oh i think that that would be but there are men who
04:33:35.680
choose to become chased who they could they just choose not to and there's this great conflation
04:33:43.280
that happens where they are put in the category of being involuntarily celibate rather than voluntarily
04:33:50.400
celibate i think that that's where there's a huge disconnect yeah i definitely think that's
04:33:56.400
that's that's a disconnect but i also wonder if it has to do with um people these men actually not
04:34:04.960
seeking it i think that i think that involuntary celibacy might be you know i mean they're genuinely
04:34:13.200
not seeking a relationship maybe they're uh they don't want to date they think these like terrible
04:34:18.080
things about women they don't want to like find a wife because they've they've maybe had their
04:34:22.800
well i mean why would they want to date a chick who's bagged 10 15 guys why would they want to do
04:34:26.960
that i mean there's so many what it seems like a bad idea right there's like a lot of what ifs like
04:34:31.520
there's not one set answer as to why a guy who is involuntarily celibate would like not get laid
04:34:40.320
like there's just so many reasons as to why same thing for a woman just so many yeah for somebody who's
04:34:46.160
actually involuntarily celibate but what i'm saying is that there's a conflation which happens that men who
04:34:51.360
voluntarily choose chastity are vilified as being um incels when they actually are not incels they're
04:34:59.120
choosing this but they're put in that category because they won't engage in the promiscuity of
04:35:03.920
society yeah it's like the negative connotation to what you what should be is like like this man has
04:35:09.520
been chased and saving himself for marriage that's a the positive connotation and the negative would
04:35:14.640
be like oh he's an incel but it shouldn't it shouldn't be that way because it should yeah well it
04:35:19.920
shouldn't but why do you think that there's such a push from feminists to label men as being incels if
04:35:26.160
they choose chastity a great example there's a a regular on this show mason right this guy he looks
04:35:33.920
like a greek statue this dude right chiseled out of stone and he is chast he's chased he's still a virgin
04:35:41.680
right yeah brilliant engineer very very very sharp guy but he refuses to compromise on his moral values
04:35:49.920
uh when it comes to his chastity i think that that is something which should be celebrated
04:35:56.160
but instead it's vilified and he is called an incel by multiple women only because he refuses to engage
04:36:04.480
with promiscuity and yet when i talk to him he says men don't really say that to me it's just women
04:36:10.560
women are the ones who say that to me that's bizarre to me why do you think that is uh the the movement
04:36:17.040
towards sexual liberation wait sexual liberation in like the 70s it's like that's the only thing
04:36:22.960
that i could say would actually be that because that's when women decided we can have sex and we
04:36:28.720
can do whatever we want well is it that or is it that there's women who are promiscuous oh and they
04:36:33.840
don't like the fact that it's held up as a mirror to them by chaste men who say i'm not going to engage
04:36:39.520
in that and they do everything they can to compromise their moral integrity yeah no absolutely but i think it
04:36:44.960
does go back to like feminism and then the sexual liberation liberation um in that era because
04:36:52.480
that's when it like all began and and it definitely needs to change i don't know if we're going to be
04:36:56.720
able to have that kind of a um religious revolution but i would i would definitely go for it let me move
04:37:05.520
brian looks like i'm moving on so real trump donated 69 why god why why did you take princess diana and
04:37:14.240
leave us with prostitute barbie when she got that hat she looked like a cat high on meth playing with
04:37:20.000
feather she's definitely a product of incest oh no can i have the hot buck thank you trump um
04:37:27.760
um by the way i have lowered the tts trigger to 69 if any of you want to get the uh tts in as we are
04:37:38.640
entering kind of the later portion of the show the trigger has been reduced to 69 if anybody is
04:37:45.520
interested in that so and she's not a prostitute let's just get that clear no no no she definitely
04:37:50.880
is let's get that clear god's a prostitute well i guess you guys have different definitions of that word
04:37:55.520
um yeah somebody somebody who uh has sex with mid for money definitely fits that category right
04:38:02.480
here i'm gonna get through for money i'm gonna get through my notes so uh for michaela you said hot
04:38:09.200
take wait wait hang on did you just tell her to say something was that the first time you were assertive
04:38:14.480
did you just assert your will on your woman did you just do that did you just tell her to say
04:38:19.840
something andrew you gotta go and pray or something you just crack on i do i do have my own voice
04:38:25.920
whatever the hell that means but moving things on like yeah
04:38:33.680
okay so you said you have a hot take consumption of pornography is cheating
04:38:39.360
hot take pornography creates weak men yes do you want to elaborate on those points at all or
04:38:44.800
i mean i think it speaks for itself mm-hmm okay if i grant you that uh consumption of
04:38:52.320
pornography is cheating and i think it's pretty and you would say it's like for both men and women
04:38:56.400
right oh okay i'll get to my point after this 69 dollars most women love to be told what to do by a
04:39:04.720
man they just don't admit it if a man also treats them like shit they go harder in that's why nice sky
04:39:12.560
friends that want more always remain friends i mean he's not lying though right like we went around
04:39:19.600
the panel is he lying is he like look i see you laughing back there i think he has a point he has
04:39:26.320
one good point with the woman i feel like if a man put like i said before if a man puts a woman in a
04:39:31.520
position where she can feel like like feminine then i don't think we will have any problems like doing
04:39:37.680
what our man would want us to do or like pleasing him in any way but it's the fact that i don't think
04:39:42.640
in this society that men are showing for what they want to receive that's the problem yeah what do you
04:39:47.760
what do you mean they're not showing what they want to receive like um how do i how do i start this
04:39:53.600
with just like the point of like today's like commitment um standards and stuff you can't really
04:39:59.120
like we we've started we've went on this you can't do husband things for a boyfriend and i feel
04:40:04.000
like that's like a really big part wifey things for a boyfriend so i feel like that's a really big
04:40:09.040
part of like men don't go my wifey things do you mean uh cooking cleaning that type of thing or yeah
04:40:14.800
like that was like around the conversation the premise of the conversation we had previously
04:40:20.880
i don't i don't understand that though if you have a girlfriend who you're dating let's say you're not
04:40:24.560
having sex what's wrong with her cooking and cleaning and things like this if you're dating no
04:40:29.840
no that wasn't my point i'm saying that men don't and like in today's time men don't really pursue
04:40:36.320
the commitment that they want for us to show like those type of like attributes in a relationship and
04:40:41.840
i don't think there's well okay hang on now i think we might tangle on this a little bit
04:40:47.680
um what do you mean they're not that are you saying that they're not like leading you in such a way
04:40:55.680
where you feel like you want to be led is that is that where you're going with this or if i i'm let
04:41:01.840
me put myself in a situation where i'm not in a relationship with a man but he expects those like
04:41:07.280
certain treatments that's what i mean well by relationship you mean not his girlfriend yes
04:41:12.720
like that's that was the premise of the conversation we had yeah yeah well i'm just can you expand on it
04:41:18.560
for me um i'm saying that uh wait the the first question that we started off with was what was the
04:41:24.400
topic again well we were we were discussing why it is that you think brian's favorite simp donated
04:41:35.200
crazy episode bpd girl refusing to leave and maddie going molly made on the carpet brian stay strong
04:41:43.040
maddie start a cleaning channel instead of cooking youtube not i'm about to start a carpet
04:41:48.640
cleaning business it was good she did a good job he donated 69 dollars catholicism considers excessive
04:41:56.160
smoking a sin against the virtue of temperance let's all watch andrew dismiss it and pretend it
04:42:02.160
doesn't count for him so he can go back to attacking others for their sin i'm not a catholic i'm not a
04:42:08.560
roman catholic i'm an eastern orthodox that's one and then two you would have to define excessive and
04:42:14.960
then you would have to make proof that it took me away from my lord jesus christ you can never do it in
04:42:19.920
a million years you're an idiot i would destroy you in 15 seconds but anyway back to the wondrous
04:42:26.160
conversation that we were having with this lovely woman this evening i wonder if you could expand uh
04:42:32.640
just kind of quickly on what you were saying earlier you were talking about how it is that women
04:42:37.920
who are not compartmentalized as girlfriend material essentially are acting in a wifely way
04:42:43.920
so i started off by saying that um if you put a woman in a position that they can feel like feminine
04:42:50.160
and lead and like follow you not lead follow you i feel like in today's standards of dating men don't
04:42:56.960
really show that sense of commitment that that would put women in that position
04:43:01.040
so you're saying okay that was so this is maybe where we have the deviation um what is the expectation
04:43:10.960
that you have when you're dating uh to like in me in a committed relationship yeah but i mean you're not
04:43:19.200
committed yet you're just dating um can you rephrase i'm not really sure what you mean by that yeah so i mean
04:43:27.040
you could date let's say you could even date 10 men yeah without sleeping with any of them
04:43:32.960
right go on dates you can go on dinner this and that what is the actual expectation that you have
04:43:37.760
me personally i wouldn't put much effort in it if it's not like one person if i'm like
04:43:42.080
dating around it wouldn't really be anything serious to the point where i put myself out there to like show
04:43:47.040
um exceeding expectations with that relationship or okay so then situation so from your view you're
04:43:55.360
saying you only want to date one man at a time yeah and i'd put that i'd put i put myself in a
04:44:01.120
situation to feel feminine enough to allow him to lead me in any aspect well i have a question
04:44:08.320
could we could we all answer this to like figure it out because like i can say at least for me like
04:44:13.520
if i'm going to be dating a guy it's going to be dating a guy because i like the guy which then
04:44:18.080
leads to like a relationship which then would mean like we'd get serious and then it's like to the
04:44:23.520
point of like marriage i would want to say at least for me personally like not saying that i'm going to
04:44:28.480
be dating to marry but like definitely dating to dating to like be with someone for a long time
04:44:34.400
and like actually wanting to be with just this person like monogony monogony this
04:44:39.520
so what's so if you had to summarize the question what is the summary well like what would we all be
04:44:44.880
dating for marriage yeah that's now that's a great question what are you donated 69 dollars brian
04:44:52.720
living in comifornia you know how expensive this shite is to the girl in the cowboys 33 t this is for
04:45:00.080
you you're at least an eight hope you're not a liberal cheers andrew i'm not one specific thing but
04:45:07.600
thank you thank you anonymous thank you anonymous appreciate it uh also just thank you to brian's
04:45:13.040
favorite simp i didn't i forgot to thank you for your uh tts earlier thank you destiny even though
04:45:18.160
whatever that's not the actual destiny some other guy um did you want to continue on that andrew or
04:45:24.240
yeah well she was saying uh what are you dating for i think that's a good question for the panel if
04:45:28.640
you don't mind humoring us brian yes what are you guys dating for what is the purpose of dating
04:45:34.160
let's start with you me yeah well you're already married so i don't know yeah i guess you can answer
04:45:40.240
still but we know your answer no yeah um i'm definitely dating for marriage um i felt like
04:45:46.800
that's where i was hoping to getting in my last relationship um i feel like that's why i was doing
04:45:53.840
all that and then also i think it comes with the intention and that was definitely my intention
04:46:00.080
was to get married yes and that's why i was uh doing those like duties as in cooking cleaning and
04:46:08.960
providing spiritually and financially and so on so you were in a monogamous relationship with a single
04:46:16.480
single guy yes yes oh okay i understand is sex a part of that i'm sorry is sex a part of that um it
04:46:24.720
wasn't at first but then once he made the environment for me to feel safe then yes i i had sex with him
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um with me person with me personally i'm though i don't i wouldn't describe myself as a person who
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would date aimlessly i i wouldn't say marriage either because i'm so young but definitely for like
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correct experiences that would like shape me into somebody that i want to be
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hang on back up you're not dating for marriage specifically because i'm so young for experiences
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no i wouldn't say like like experiences in a way you're probably thinking but if it would lead to
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i'm not inferring experience of a long-term yeah an experience of a long-term relationship that might
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lead me to marriage but because i'm so young it's not it's not a guarantee that i would like if i don't
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100 see myself marrying that person i would cut it off completely not like that because i'm reaching for
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those experiences that would shape me into like what's wrong with getting married young though
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nothing nothing at all but me personally because of what i want to do with my career and like stuff
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like that it's just not on my it's not what do you want to do with your career me hopefully medical
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um the med field i'm not sure with doctor but you know like that's really time committing especially
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with like my um load of study right now currently even as a college student so you're going to medical
04:47:50.000
school um it would be a hope currently but we never know i i don't understand it could be a hope
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are you going to medical school or are you right now just doing the prerequisites to go right now i'm
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a i'm a college student but i'm saying that looking forward in the future with what i currently hope to
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do or early marriage wouldn't be a priority for me why not just because of how i see myself like
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maneuvering in that life so you prioritize career over marriage like let's say you found the perfect
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guy tomorrow he was great and fantastic and this and that would you still prioritize your career over
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that if he put me in a position if he put me in a position where it wouldn't it wouldn't um interfere
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with anything that has to do my career of course you can yeah but what if i mean if he had enough money
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to just take care of you and ask you abandon the career why would that actually be problematic
04:48:46.800
that like would depend on the person yeah like what your dreams and your passions are based off
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of a guy who just wants to pay everything off for you some people would be down for that but she doesn't
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seem like she'd be down for that right she wants to have yeah no but she has a mouth and can speak for
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herself and we're having a combo so just relax for a second and you don't mind letting her answer so i
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can understand what i'm gonna pick it back exactly yeah yeah no calm down i know you're
04:49:08.960
everybody gets mad if you you're not allowed to speak for somebody else you get mad i get that
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but just let them speak for themselves oh that's fine let them speak for themselves it's cool anyway um
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so so back to you if you don't mind um kind of elaborating on this because i find this kind of
04:49:26.080
interesting is why is it that you would reject a man taking care of you if he wanted you to reject
04:49:34.160
the pursuance of a career in lieu of children because why would i do that i don't really i
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don't understand well because you only have x amount of fertile years right i mean but why would
04:49:45.440
that be my top priority yeah i'll explain it okay so if you want to have a family and a husband and
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children and you find a good high value man or a man with virtue who wants to also have children
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basically your 20s is going to be the years in which you bear the most amount of children
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in your 30s that's going to rapidly decrease same thing in your 40s so if he says listen i would like
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you to stay at home with our children to make the most optimal family possible and i will take care of
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the money why is it unreasonable for him to ask you to do that just because of my passions as a person
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and i would really like i would i would want to be with somebody who would understand that i really
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wouldn't put myself in that situation so you would reject family in your fertile years for what it is
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that you want i mean but how do you know family is a priority for me like i don't i don't because
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you said it was when did i say that well earlier when we were having the argument about christian ethics
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ethics i assume that you follow i assume you follow christian ethics am i incorrect about that i'm
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catholic yeah but um i understand the realm that you're commanded by the catholic church to be fertile
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and to multiply but that's not really one of my it's not really something i want to do going like
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it's not my top priority like yes as a catholic i understand that but um with the whole system of
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me being catholic there's stuff i don't agree with and i understand that it might not like align with
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other catholics and how they might see me but it's just something i don't really agree with and it's
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not like i'm picking and choosing but it just doesn't align with me as a person well when you
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talk to your priest what does he say um we don't really talk about things like that i'm not i don't
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think this is you don't talk to your priest no yeah do you really attend catholic mass very often i mean
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i go to confessional stuff like that but that i don't really think that's something that would
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be brought up i mean not wanting i mean it's it's brought up quite a bit right if that's your spirit
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that's your spiritual father isn't that a person you would confide that kind of thing into or no no
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that's true but i really just don't think that's such a big deal you know i don't know what we're
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going back and forth about well we're not really going back and forth i'm just i'm just i just want
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to make sure i understand your mindset that's it so uh ultimately if you think that there is any sort
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of pushback from your religious views towards the things that you personally want you will abandon
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the religious view for the thing that you want that's not really what i like i don't i don't see
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my actions as that i'm not saying i'm not going to start a family at all that's definitely something
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i want but not so early that's not a priority for me no well when how many years do you have
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to start one whenever it happens god willing that's god's time not mine as long as it's on
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the terms of you also get what it is that you personally desire right i mean that is my chain of
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thought while i'm advancing in life yeah you don't you don't consider that somewhat selfish no because
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i'm not abandoning what god wants like all together it's just not a early how do you know
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you haven't even talked to your priest about it how do you know that i mean what like i said before
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god's timing whatever happens happens that's just that's i'm gonna leave it at that all right all
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right i'll let it go from there i just wanted to uh inquire we can continue with the same question
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around the table if brian um unless brian wants to move this on well i got to get through all my notes
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first so i think we do have to move on to something else i wanted to come back to my question for you
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you said that consumption of pornography is cheating pornography creates weak men and it seems
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you seem to have this it's also the case for women too though correct women consuming pornography that
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would be cheating too okay now i think there's a bit of a differential here and if i grant to you that
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consumption of pornography is cheating on the man's part now i'm not going to frame it from a cheating
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perspective but i would argue that men watching pornography is the equivalent of women using
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social media that's it that's my whole point can you um yeah like in what way right so
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men and women are different men want sex women want attention and so
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what disagree or do you not think men also want attention nope not to the same degree that women
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do i think it depends on the person if yeah sure yes they're like using social media yeah but
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the damage is speaking in generalities i i would argue general sorry my so so i would i would argue that
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the there's this a lot of women seem to take quarrel with men watching porn i would not want to date a
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guy who watched porn or you would see it as a potential like yellow flag red flag ryan mcculloch donated
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69 dollars ladies i'd like to point out it's a good point sooner you have children the longer your kids
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will have access to you in their lifetime that's a really good point that's true that's a really good
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point right right so there's this differential here so i would argue that as a woman if you're
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like i don't want a guy to uh excuse me i don't want a guy to
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watch porn i think the equivalent request and demand on the man's part would be to say i don't want
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you on social media i think that's the equivalent request like actually posting on social media or just
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only in general yeah no social media no instagram i don't think that's equivalent i don't think
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that's because men can get attention on social media really how many how many hold on okay let me ask
04:55:43.440
uh i don't know where i'll start on this um how many dms who said that me you okay
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how many dms do you get from random dudes i mean i get i get dms every day not every day but
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a couple week highly okay how many dms are you sending out i mean if i see someone who's attractive
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i'll slide up with a hard eye say you look good how many dm how many dms have you ever sent in your
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whole life like to a guy to a guy who you're like a couple how many i can't count but not five more
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more probably like not like different guys but if a guy looks good and i know him i'm gonna tell him
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what's the ratio like how many dms are you receiving it's definitely higher yes i get more dms than a guy
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would yeah so i mean there's definitely some differentials here but yeah i would argue that
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the sort of validation that you're getting on social media um that's pretty damaging to a
04:56:37.360
relationship i mean if you if you allow it to i guess i don't think it's half as damaging as sexual
04:56:44.640
infidelity wait porn is not as damaging as sexual sorry sorry uh i don't think that like being on like
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instagram social media any of that is half and it's nowhere near the damage that sexual infidelity
04:56:58.560
does what do you mean that's that is the uh a woman being on instagram is like the uh
04:57:05.040
shit what's it called the gateway to infidelity if you allow it i feel like i can't hope that guys
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will find her attractive yeah but when you put yourself out there on porn you want people to see
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that you're attracted here's the difference right when it comes to men and women so men or men and
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women are not the same like women the way you flirt is to just kind of put yourself out there so you
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won't slide into a guy's dms but you'll post like an attractive sexy photo which will kind of prompt
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men to them to then dm you you're not going to approach a guy but you'll just go to the bar or the
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club or the party and guys are just going to come up to you so men and women operate very differently
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that's why i'm actually very much against like dating a girl who goes out and party like goes to
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bars clubs and parties now i don't i don't drink i don't go to parties well actually i had a hard
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seltzer i need to bro today was a little mess so i had i don't i don't drink though generally speaking
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um so i had half the fucking bottle so okay okay yeah yeah so i guess the point i'm trying to make
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here is like as a girl like as a guy you can go to a bar or a club grab a drink sit at the bar nobody's
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gonna fucking talk to you the entire night but a girl you go to a bar club party whatever with your
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girls even by yourself you're gonna get hit on so that's why it's actually a bigger red flag for a
04:58:28.640
girl to be like going out and partying in a relationship same with like having social media
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like a guy can go through his whole life average guy normal guy go through his whole life
04:58:38.640
girl will never slide into his dms average girl 500 followers public account college girl bro she's
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getting dms from dudes college guys blue check whatever so it's totally different so in a
04:58:53.520
relationship no but here's the thing since men and women are different we have different strategies
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here like men are oh how's it go men are um is it advertisers and women are marketers
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yeah men are advertisers women are marketers so you kind of just like put yourself out there
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it's like kind of the difference of like okay y'all are the employers and men are coming to you here's
04:59:17.920
my resume whereas men it's like we're fucking passing out our resume everywhere and shit and so
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and so like men when we get into a relationship we stop like our um our edge when it comes to dating
04:59:32.400
would be like dming a girl uh going out to a no dming a girl approaching a girl but obviously we
04:59:40.720
realize in society hey we cut that off when we're in a relationship we stop doing that because that's
04:59:45.600
cheating but women never stop their edge when it comes to you're you're still on the market even when
04:59:52.400
you're in a relationship when you're going to the bar when you're going to the club when you're posting
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on instagram you're still on the market because you're still you're still like sourcing men even when
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you're in a relationship that's why so many women when they break up with a dude they got a
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replacement immediately but that could play with men too what do you mean like it's i feel like you're
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trying to like target a lot of these questions but in reality it goes both ways i mean sure maybe to
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you it seems like it's majority like this is happening to guys because of women like it goes the same way
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like it happens to women because of guys uh me yeah just a little bit to your left sorry oh sorry men
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it's not advertisers men are salesmen women are marketers that's the differential so in a committed
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relationship a man should stop pitching and a woman should stop advertising uh that's my view would you
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not like your girlfriend to be like like most men like the girlfriend to be attractive and approached
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by other men because then you can kind of put them on a pedestal of i've got a but everyone wants her
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or would you say you were too insecure for people that approach well i can't i mean i'm i can't like if
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she's going to trader joe's i'm not going to be able to stop like men from approaching her uh but i mean
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i do prefer women who dress more modestly i prefer women who aren't like putting themselves all over
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social media instagram and i definitely don't i will not date a girl who's like clubbing partying
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doing that yeah but people can at all people can still post photos where they've fully clothed and
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still go about the days as i used to post selfies i'm still posting selfies now i don't see why they
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need to stop doing that like whether it was the most christian girl possible why did they then need
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to stop posting pictures of the first because i'm talking about too insecure i mean their faces
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that's not a huge deal but like posting like provost sexually provocative photos but what if
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they're not that's what i'm saying no you're just saying instagram in general well okay there was an
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implication there of like yeah i perhaps i i failed to kind of give a bit more nuance so like if she's
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posting like revealing like bikini photos and that's understandable and it's like there's
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differences though like there's like a more tame bikini photo and then there's like a here's my
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ass bikini photo yeah i mean there's levels to this right i get that i'm thinking about like a
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regular and look yeah like i'm not super hardcore with it like i'm not like but prefer
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no social media so if god puts the man in front of you now you would reject him for your career
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let's do math two guys a week is 100 plus guys a year and you're still single it's you not the men
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try being a lady god forbid a woman wants a career oh my gosh so i'm not understanding it well wait a
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second hang on that's kind of disingenuous because it doesn't really answer to what he's saying i
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mean like what i'm saying is is that if god were to put that perfect man in your lap you would still
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reject him for your career because of well what i like to call me-ism me me me me me me me me me
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right i mean am i am i hang on hang on that's the key right that's what he's getting at is he's
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saying you would still reject what could be the best thing for you because of what you what it is
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that you think is some inherent goal or some um some inherent purpose and so he's saying that uh that
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would obviously from a christian worldview lead to massive regret down the road because it seems that
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you're not fulfilling the function that you would normally fill as a woman inside of a christian
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marriage that's that's what he's saying um in my opinion i feel like a man that god would put in
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front of me that's perfect i don't think my career would be an issue that's just what i'm gonna say
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yeah because i don't really i don't so is is i'm sorry are you there to fulfill what god's purpose for
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you is or are you there to fulfill what your purpose for you is god's purpose of course yes
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yeah so then what's god's purpose for you if he puts a perfect man in my way and it's his
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purpose for me to marry him i do not believe that my career would be an issue yeah i know but what
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if that's god's purpose how would i if god i'm saying and if god puts a man in my life and it's
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his purpose for me to marry him and he's the perfect man for me my career would be an issue yeah
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hair blue it could work pink it could work so basically you're saying that a woman should just
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literally abide by what you want to do and cook clean not have a life not go out anywhere but to
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the shops um never leave the house unless it's with you and then just serve the purpose why are you
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why are you then donated 69 dollars hey andrew why don't you tell the panel how her wife has five
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kids and three aren't yours you preach high value yet you're a stepdad to three kids beta now smile and
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show us those pearly yellows big up speedo big up yellows and i'm sorry are you saying that i'm so
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altruistic as a christian that i don't care about taking on stepchildren or that i would run an orphanage
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or that i would take care of children who are not mine and that somehow that is a dunk against my
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christian values you would have to demonstrate that a cuck even by its traditional uh sentiments
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would be a person who unwittingly took care of children who are not their own or allow a man to
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fuck his wife if your missus has been neither category there's only one cuck here and he's
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sitting next to the blonde yeah and she's sexy as fuck but your missus has been fucked like it or not
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she's been fucked she's enjoyed it allow my missus gets fucked by anybody else yeah and you allow your
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missus to get by other men at least i'm there wait wait i'm sorry who actually is with purpose
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who with purpose allows their missus to get fucked by other men me or you sir you've allowed your
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missus to answer my question sir who allows with purpose their missus to get fucked by other men me
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or you your your missus has been fucked by other men so what's the difference answer my question sir who
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with purpose allows their missus to get fucked by other men me or you me because we make money and
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we enjoy it so what's the problem because you're a fucking cuck you never smile your missus is a
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slag okay guys guys guys guys guys guys guys stop stop stop your missus has pushed out two kids
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let me let me hold on stop stop stop let me let me uh okay all right hold on let me let me get
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through the rest of my notes here i'm gonna get through the rest of my notes okay put your swords
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away guys all right um going to uh grace grace here you said your hot take sometimes waiting to have
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sex is cool rather than rushing when you say waiting to have sex like waiting how long like just just
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um how long uh waiting how long um well that's kind of i don't know like that's
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i feel like giving it a definitive answer because like like i already said i've already had sex so
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yeah um speaking on that like i i i think i said earlier like me and me and my ex we we had known
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each other for about like four or five months and then um on our first date that's when you know
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it happened and that's fine i don't i don't have an issue yeah and i think i don't know that was just
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that was my first time you know so i think that's why it all hit me like wait hold on just wait it was
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your first time having sex ever yeah oh wait oh okay i wasn't paying i must have missed this no yeah
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i think so wait you were so you were uh virgin yeah like and then the first first time you hung
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out with this guy lost your virginity no no no not first time we had known each other and first date
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yeah first date first date proper date proper date yeah but you shat into him for four or five months
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four or five months we had established talking and then i that's when i told them about the sushi too
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and oh okay well the the mommy's boy okay okay okay so have you have you ever made a guy wait
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um oh like well i mean after him yeah like after him yeah like but in your notes here you also say
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that you've i have experience i've also done one night stands flings situationships so i also know
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the aspect of non-formal dating yeah and to be fair i genuinely think i can make for a oh a pretty
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good talk but um when you say you've done one night stands fling situationships yeah just curious
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like how many one night stands so if i'm um being like completely honest like after the breakup that
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really hurt and i think i think i think a lot of people can agree with this too that and i've changed
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my ways now i would say like i'm i'm trying to be a better person and also like that's why i didn't
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speak on the whole um like religious topic because i'm trying to find my way in through religious um
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so it's taking some time but like i said my like sorry can you repeat the question oh i was just
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curious like you said oh yeah okay so after the after the breakup i was devastated i was devastated you
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know i thought that was i thought that was the one and i i had found out also that i believe it was
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like a day after or three days after we broke up or that i broke up with him he um just fucked another
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girl and yeah and hooked up with her and he did it like yeah it was just it was terrible and so that
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broke my heart but instead of in which i should have i wish i should have i should have you know just
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taking the bigger like the road the bigger road and you know continue with my piece but i feel like
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here at ucsb i don't know who i don't know who mentioned it earlier but like the hookup culture
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here is real and it's like you know i i had experienced like a one-night stand and i hated it
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i hated it it was it felt so after like being in such a like long relationship i learned that you know
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like your value your value just really determines on what you like how you go on with situations and
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i put myself in that situation so i took full accountability and you know i live on and i
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learned okay but you're kind of meandering here wait so the question was i i was just asking like
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how many one night stands was it um one oh just one okay all that all that like all that pretext and
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like okay i'm gonna preface well i like i did the one night stand but then i've also like hooked up
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with guys like on dp like and okay yeah that was not hey no i'm not i'm not judging you like the term
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hookup is like so like broad oh um like make out just yeah oh okay oh yeah good to know we can
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establish that yeah but so you have like you have had one night stands fling situationships and in
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those situations like you you would say you did not wait long to have sex um in this um
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yeah okay yeah because but you said your hot take sometimes waiting to have sex is cool rather
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yeah because now i know now i know it's like valuing yourself and waiting is is i wouldn't say the right
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choice but for me i changed my way and like i can't say i'm a perfect person but i mean no one
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is but you know as long as you learn from your experiences and it can be different for everyone
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and sometimes you have to make those mistakes to learn those lessons because then if you didn't go
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through that then you wouldn't know that wasn't for you so yeah the right choice is for the person
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and i think like as women when we like aren't really that type of person and then go into that
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victor sandoval jr donated 69 yeah thank you victor thank you blessings to all been watching the
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podcast for a while long live the patriarchy feminism is destroying the traditional family
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andrew you're the man brian thank you for this podcast yeah thank you victor appreciate the uh
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message much appreciated i'll ask a question related to that 69 dollars your atheism never got you money
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either you seem like a kind man completely deceived by feminism feminism wants to destroy marriage
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don't get married in future as an atheist she will take all her dollar
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oh okay we got a bunch of intel wild donated 69 dollars take up brandon what's up with your teeth
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brah water bad over there in england what the yeah my teeth are good um she's hungry we have chips
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yeah there's some chips back um i want to reply to that so what did they say sorry get that back up
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or read it out if you can what's up with your teeth no the previous one oh your atheism never got you
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money uh you seem like a kind seem like a kind man oh i'm kind but deceived by feminism feminism
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wants to destroy marriage don't get married in future as an atheist she will take all your money
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no definitely not again we have to say mine wait isn't she the breadwinner yeah yeah she's
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no they're saying that you're not this way don't come yeah she makes more money than me so
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they're saying i'm gonna take all your money babe i actually make like a lot more than what he does
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so so if anything i'm the sugar mummy of the relationship oh there you have it there you have
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it uh yeah i'm i'm happy again we're making money with we're doing our thing and call me a cut call
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me whatever i don't care to finish so going back to the uh actually really quick on the whole like
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waiting for sex thing uh as somebody who like i'm not waiting for marriage um i've had to like
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like so that ship has sailed yeah all right what's that stupid like uh
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i know the way i framed that was kind of dumb uh i had sex once oh look at me uh no but sex
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i'm so cool uh no it's more like that ship has sailed i'm not like yeah waiting for marriage or
05:15:32.560
anything but like what's weird to me as a guy who's like a bit more on the secular side uh i'm
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not i don't believe in like like for me i'm desirous of a long-term relationship so i'm not
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like just trying to sleep with uh like every single girl i meet like if i sleep with a girl i want to
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continue seeing seeing her i want there to be a continuity but like one of the hiccups that i have
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especially encountering like i mean i would even extend this to a woman who's christian but who has a
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past it's like uh to me it's like a it's a pretty bad raw deal for like okay all the previous guys
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you slept with it was like relatively quickly now you've matched with me and now you want to wait
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three months you want to wait like this extended period of time you want to wait until marriage
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even i'm not saying that women shouldn't change and you're 100 within your right i'm just saying for
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me personally i don't that's not the type of girl i would want to date and i'd just be up front with
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her i wouldn't waste her time i wouldn't just like stick around and go through the waiting just to
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sleep with her just so i can but it's kind of this thing where it's like well i'm a bit skeptical of
05:16:40.960
your motivations here because i don't know if this is your actual value set because i've definitely
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for example you'll encounter a girl who's making you wait to have sex while she's
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fucking another guy and she never made that guy wait for sex so it's not it's like this sort of
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arbitrary like it's not an actual value that you have you're just like uh okay i want to secure a
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relationship from this guy it's not has nothing to do with my values i'm just gonna like do the carrot
05:17:10.640
on the stick and play a game and use sex as leverage in my view when it comes to relationships
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whenever a woman uses it just sets a terrible frame for the relationship i know this doesn't
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like this doesn't make sense from i'm not really religious but it doesn't make it doesn't compute
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with a christian world view but when women use sex as leverage in a relationship i think it's
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absolutely terrible like oh okay well uh i need this from you you need to treat like do these behaviors
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then we have sex i think sex should be a mutually desired thing both people should have a desire for
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each other so me personally it's kind of like ridiculous when a girl's like oh okay i uh well
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two weeks ago i i had a one night stand with a guy but and he i don't he doesn't matter at all i don't
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care about him he's a fuck but but your relationship material we're gonna wait three months it's like
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okay that's crazy hello governor did your stepfather let other blokes shag your mom maybe in the bum do you
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come from a long line of cuts did anyone ever tell you that you look like sid from i say i get it all
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the time um and no yeah again my mom and stepdad lived in a different era they've struggled for money
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my stepdad had two jobs i i had periods where i had buckle in the cupboards um i haven't got a wealthy
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family and for the money i'm earning now i don't regret it why not and again my mom's happy i think
05:18:40.800
my family have i've not directly said to them are they happy but again that they they see the bank
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balance and i look after my family look after everyone and yeah go from there so i don't care
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really again if you put the older generation with our social media now um who knows what my mom and
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stepfather would have done they could have been massive orgies it could have been everything so
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who knows but again i'm making wait wait are you saying that you're you think that your parents
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would have you think that your stepdad would have let other men fuck his no no probably not i'll be
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honest it would have meant more money for her again i didn't want to wake up at shoot the clock
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come home and shoot the clock i do want the easy way out again you get one life i want to live it to
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the max and again if yeah no no i get that but i just want to make sure that we're clear on this point
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no no we're clear you think that in a different generation your generation whatever that is i
05:19:33.840
don't know what generation you are i'm guessing that um yeah can you read that nobody really
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believes the bible is literal apparent apparently it only breeds bigots and hypocritical moral judging
05:19:49.120
dickheads brian deaf virgin real quick bry where's the girls blank when she's on top yeah it's funny
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because there's this clip like how you're talking about like well in town wild donated 69 people
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missing turn take up brandon what about them teeth though them teeth are from big up at uk smiles big
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up and tell you for turkey uh yeah i've got done on promo i've got the best smile i can ask for
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uh my teeth were dreadful before and uh yeah and i'm happy so yeah well how do you manage to get
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dental work done and they still keep the gap in the teeth do you think that there's no gap in the
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teeth i'm kidding it's a joke bro it's a joke it's a joke it's a british joke it's a british joke
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calm down gapping my teeth mate no no it's a it's a great joke okay you ruined the whole thing but
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anyway back to this this is the real question i just want to make sure that i have this down
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you think that if your parents were zoomers that your uh stepfather would have let i don't know what
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they would have done but all i'm saying is they didn't have access to what we've got access today
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yeah they did they did they didn't have social media of course they did do you think that
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pornography was not a thing when your parents were your age are you out of your mind when did
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the internet become a thing when did the internet doesn't need to be a thing for pornography to be
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a thing it was a different media it's not as mainstream they didn't have internet there was a
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massive porn industry the 70s were riddled with pornography so it was the 80s and 90s can you explain to me
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why it is that your stepfather did not let other men your mom so that she could make money what do
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you think that that deciding factor was he could oh wait in town wild donated 69 dollars the slag in
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the cup 304 version of beauty and the beast hold on let's just just for time's sake i gotta move
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things along we've already i feel like we've already different yeah yeah this is a different
05:21:49.280
different generation we've got more access now again i'm not going back on the whole thing you
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don't have more access listen you think that playboy and you think that uh camera film pornography
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was not a big thing when your parents were your age you're out of your mind it was a massive thing
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how old are your peers are they 70 no they're in their 40s i believe what are they in their 40s 50s
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40s late 40s yeah there was a big porn dude that was porn was a big thing yeah
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parties were a big thing that's not a joke like yeah they could have made money at pornography they just
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didn't anyone can start on only fans not everyone could have done porn back then we would move on
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before i take the because i'll not keep mentioning the wingman donated 69 ladies would you date my
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buddy christian conservative fit country six figures has beard but he's five to six be gentle okay
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starting with you over here oh my god tom we donated 69 dollars i'll come back to it the blonde is more
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attentive to the camera than her so-called boyfriend clearly she has no respect for him
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this will be a marriage doomed from the start character and class greater than money okay thank
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you tommy um so starting with you uh would you date my buddy christian conservative fit country
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six figures has a beard but he's five foot six yeah my ex-boyfriend was short as
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smoke um if he has a good personality but i'm also five ben george donated 69 dollars freddie
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cuck mercury with nicer upper teeth madison don't do off i'm not you're not gonna do it look at that
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yeah yeah that's a w got you madison you're awesome i knew that you weren't gonna do that
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shit i knew it it's not because of you guys uh okay uh the pass pass on the guy probably not know
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nope okay there it is uh thank you wig man appreciate uh maddie what about you thank you
05:23:57.120
if you were single uh yeah if you're single uh yes okay there you go buddy yeah they were gentle
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they were gentle uh just the last thing on the whole like waiting for sex thing i think it like the
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issue is it's like if it's always been your standard or like you've had an extended period
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of time of this being your standard moving forward and you fully intended because like
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let's say like let's say you make a guy wait three months before you have sex and then you guys break
05:24:22.640
up and then a week after you break up you fuck a guy on the first date it's like was it really your
05:24:31.440
standard or were you and then it's like obviously you don't owe anything to your ex but it's just
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i think the frame here is a lot of women will say well i want to wait you know because like so it's
05:24:46.320
special but it's weird because you reward the fuck boys who will never give you commitment with
05:24:53.680
immediate sex but then you punish the men or the guys who are worthy of a relationship by making them
05:25:01.120
wait weeks months or even longer to have sex it just i don't know it's kind of confusing so like
05:25:08.080
the guys who treat you poorly who aren't worth it they get the sex but the good like the guy who you
05:25:14.400
want a relationship with like it occurs to me wouldn't you want to reward him with sex
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that's where i get confused i don't i don't know if it's a reward space that's
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reward and punishes like i don't think that's a well in town wild donated 69 dollars
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kukkuma brandon wants to be the british version of adam 22 so bad smdh
05:25:40.000
okay let me give you a scenario let me give you an analogy i won't linger on this topic for too long
05:25:50.720
okay let's say we're dating and i tell you i'm not the romantic i got this written down
05:25:56.080
say we're dating i tell you i'm not the romantic type i don't buy flowers i don't do much of anything
05:26:00.960
that would be considered romantic that's something that i think should wait until we're engaged or
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married or even in a you know we have a title boyfriend girlfriend meanwhile you're treating
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me much better than the women i did in the past ever did and then one day somehow you discover that
05:26:15.920
the women i dated before you got flowers cards expensive dinners and they were women that i've
05:26:21.520
told you were significantly lesser value than you how would that make you feel can i that's exactly
05:26:30.240
what my last release trip was like he would do a lot and provide for their his ex and wouldn't do
05:26:37.520
anything for me because he was so called busy and quite frankly it like fucks up your self-esteem and
05:26:44.480
then you start questioning yourself but that's something you have to learn and say that's more
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can you repeat the question holy fuck okay i'll give you a different go go uh okay this is like
05:27:01.520
women saying oh you know he was it was just like this meaningless sex it he didn't matter to me
05:27:08.080
so that'd be like a guy saying you don't understand these women were just for hookups so of course
05:27:12.720
i bought them expensive stuff took them to the best dining places and i even paid their bills but you're
05:27:18.160
different from them i actually see you as a potential girlfriend wife so you have to wait
05:27:22.560
for those benefits so let's go to mcdonald's you're paying by the way that's how it is of course you
05:27:28.320
would feel a certain type of way you know and then yeah from there you would just be like or i would
05:27:33.280
just be like sayonara like peace out like i'm out of here and there's no second date following that
05:27:41.520
okay all right uh let me get to my other notes and then uh i don't have much left
05:27:46.000
we should do the bump did we do the we didn't do the bumble thing we'll do it yeah we'll do it
05:27:52.560
uh we'll skip the tick tock uh let's see i hit uh wait okay we have giselle um
05:28:02.240
you said considering more old school you like to take things slow when dating meeting people
05:28:06.960
you've had really weird experiences conversations um like from a guy going into extreme sexual detail
05:28:13.360
of what they do to you after only meeting 10 minutes yeah and then you also were involved
05:28:18.320
with an ex-murderer who was in his late 60s let me elaborate on that um i started working at quick
05:28:26.160
story though if you can if you can try to make it like brief but good for sure i was working at a
05:28:30.240
restaurant and this old man would come regularly and then uh one day he came with flyers like um trying
05:28:36.720
to pass out to girls saying that he would want um to have the us massage him like in a private room
05:28:44.320
in exchange for like uh insights on life and then we looked up and he was like he like uh murdered his
05:28:55.120
wife like back in the 80s oh my god and like just recently went out so yeah who would agree to that
05:29:00.960
first off i don't think i don't think anyone did and then i gave the flyer to our uh manager and he
05:29:09.040
was escorted out because that's some crazy wait so and he didn't like he wasn't gonna pay you for
05:29:14.240
the massages he's just like gonna give you life advice and then it was really detailed too saying
05:29:21.840
like oh we would have to go either to a hotel or like my house not his house and it's like during
05:29:27.600
the massage he was going to give you life advice or like afterward you think that's worked on like
05:29:30.960
any girl there's no way i was desperate for money hey you you give me a massage and i'll give you
05:29:37.520
life advice like what they don't have to get paid for
05:29:40.400
shit sign me up gr gracie donated 69 dollars brie you skipped my now irrelevant read panel
05:29:48.480
how many 18 plus year olds have you heard say my parents f the whole county and i'm not a suicidal
05:29:54.720
heroin addict wait what sorry if i uh gracie sorry if i skipped something i must uh i don't see it here
05:30:01.760
was it a super chat or was it um but the question is how many 18 plus year olds have you heard say my
05:30:07.680
parents effed the whole country and i'm not is this a rhetorical question this applies to brandon
05:30:14.000
okay all right all right thank you man um okay so that was pretty crazy um let's see we have sophia
05:30:22.800
but she's i mean the question applies right so brandon how many people who are in your industry who
05:30:29.440
have children whose children are proud of them that they share their wife around or vice versa you love
05:30:36.160
coming back to me yeah andrew well the question was directed at you andrew brother listen go to
05:30:42.240
church go to church on sunday you brandon go to church on sunday do you pray and be your slave and
05:30:47.760
let's carry on because i i'm i'm tired i'm jet-lagged to fuck i've got don't be a wimp dude just answer
05:30:53.200
the question the super chatter asked you the super chatter is asking this question because he wants to
05:30:58.800
know what your answer is to what i'm summed out very quickly so his question is how many of the
05:31:06.720
people you know inside of this industry yeah who allow their wife or significant other to be shared
05:31:12.560
or are engaged in porn have children who are proud of them that's what the intent of his question is
05:31:18.400
listen and i'm saying this once and we're cracking on we're in a gen z we can make money multiple ways
05:31:24.320
i don't know anyone that's had children that do you're not answering the question the question is
05:31:28.080
how many of those children are proud i don't know any children let's move on thank you very much
05:31:32.960
you're not going to answer the question i don't know any children how many times have i got to say
05:31:36.560
you're pissing yeah i know you don't have children that's not what the question listen to what the
05:31:40.080
question is how many of these people in this industry that you deal with who have children whose
05:31:44.800
children are proud of them have you checked on your wife she might be getting at the minute now are you
05:31:49.200
you going to ask her my question move on bro i'm piss you're pissing me off bro just move on i don't
05:31:53.520
care if i'm pissing you off shut your mouth and answer the question go pray
05:31:59.120
you're going to go cry with your wife who gets by other dudes are you going to go cry with her he
05:32:26.400
doesn't have to answer the question you're going to go cry you're going to your wife's getting
05:32:36.560
you're a father to you're a father to other people i'm backing myself i'm backing myself no
05:32:48.060
Rage quick, no, because I'm bored of your god shit, bro.
05:33:10.320
Yeah, the only person who gets fucked around here is your missus.
05:33:19.700
Look, Andrew, if he doesn't want to answer the question, that's fine.
05:33:25.680
The only person who fucks missus is your wills.
05:33:49.200
No, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay.
05:34:04.700
Don't jerk in a corner while your wife screams another man's name.
05:34:23.280
Brian, mute, Andrew, waiting a month, dot, you ain't worth it, dot, I'm a G, and 50% approached
05:34:28.680
me, Kazim, comfortable with myself and not paranoid, dot, every chick I've been with,
05:34:33.500
we hooked up first, second date, Kazim, a good kisser.
05:34:41.860
Why did you have to get those white Legos put in your mouth?
05:34:45.600
Paris Best Western can't afford better for her little lap dog.
05:35:32.320
Listen, me and Sophia are in a solid, normal relationship.
05:35:57.200
The troll is that they're not in an open relationship.
05:36:23.500
Why would you pretend that your girl got fucked by other men?
05:36:41.240
We're going to go into the chaos roast section here for a couple minutes, and then we're
05:36:53.740
Madison, do you want to ask a couple questions while I'm getting everything switched over?
05:37:13.640
We can only go off of the information that he gives us.
05:37:18.480
And he says, well, I was purposely lying about the information.
05:37:22.160
We can only respond based on the information that he gives us.
05:37:26.660
Because even if he was lying, he's lying about being in a cucked relationship, bizarrely
05:37:36.740
So not a great troll, I would say, even if it was one.
05:37:47.240
That blonde looks like she's seen more cocks than John Wayne's revolver.
05:37:51.840
She and Brandon look like the kinfolk in the hills have eyes.
05:37:55.060
England is filled with beta males who let Parliament take her guns.
05:38:06.440
A reunion of everyone from taxicab confessions.
05:38:09.740
A Down syndrome cuck pimp who backpages out his masculine Paris Hilton wife.
05:38:45.940
Like, we've already all gone through a lot and it's...
05:38:55.800
Just make it clear for everyone, if you want to have a guy that makes $100K plus and is
05:39:05.360
You just want to get paid for spending time with someone that is not love.
05:39:35.440
This cuck, Andrew, is really so boring to watch if I wanted to watch someone moan about
05:39:40.440
religion all day and make arguments without evidence I would go to church.
05:39:50.520
How TF Brian is he allowed to continue all the time?
05:39:56.100
Rude per usual five time, at least just this stream and you were late.
05:40:02.620
Well, apparently I'm the person who can suck out the trolls, eh?
05:40:05.780
Hey, Brian, what are the chances you get Michael Knowles back on the show?
05:40:12.160
But I think his wife is, uh, like, he's having, he's expecting another baby soon.
05:40:18.120
Nickelodeon donated $25 at the moment, I guess.
05:40:21.240
All he did was admitted he's embarrassed about being a cuck.
05:40:24.380
I'd be more embarrassed about Britain's lack of dentists.
05:40:36.000
If Brian did a push-up every time the word cuck was mentioned on this stream, he wouldn't be fat anymore.
05:40:45.140
It actually, I mean, actually, it was kind of an effective troll in a way.
05:40:57.380
Yeah, so, I mean, how much of the show was eaten up by, I mean, literally...
05:41:03.500
Well, 20 minutes was eaten up by just Cindy, not wanting to leave.
05:41:12.740
I had money that the black girl with the predator monster hair to you was gonna be the crazy one.
05:41:42.180
Yeah, dude, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, guys.
05:41:43.860
You can see he was not trolling, and he is, in fact, a cuck.
05:41:48.260
I think it was, he just said that to, like, get people to look on her OF and, like, maybe see if it was real.
05:41:53.240
Uh, who knows what the truth is with these OF people?
05:42:06.800
I want a virgin wife, but they don't want a virgin or 43.
05:42:15.240
I'll just say, um, these gals have been remarkably good faith, so I don't, I don't really understand why there would be any hate that way.
05:42:24.820
The host and all other guests meet a minimum level of facial symmetry.
05:42:29.480
That guy's eyes were way too far apart due to British shin breathing.
05:42:50.440
Okay, so basically, I would prefer if a guy was a virgin, but it's really hard to meet one, at least here.
05:42:58.620
But, um, yeah, so I would prefer it personally, but it's not a deal breaker.
05:43:06.140
I don't think you were here for that, Andrew, but yeah, I'm a virgin too.
05:43:08.940
Always been a virgin, and I just had my first kiss, like, back in January, and he's the only guy that I've ever kissed.
05:43:18.780
You literally have a gold bar in society, and I hope you do not give that gold bar away to you.
05:43:26.400
The Ringling Brothers just called me and told me the Clown Cake Face Blondie and Pinky's back at the circus.
05:44:05.320
In my opinion, a person who can't kiss can't fuck, and you should drop them immediately and run.
05:44:16.300
The guy that I had kissed was a really good kisser, and he said I was one, too, so that was, like, good.
05:44:22.840
But I feel like if it was a virgin, too, the guy, if it was a virgin, too, then I wouldn't expect anything out of it.
05:44:31.640
I mean, I never expected anything out of my first kiss to be, like, the best thing, but it was.
05:44:35.440
But if I were to have sex with a guy, preferably a virgin, I wouldn't have the most expectations for that, because he's new, too.
05:44:47.380
Wait, actually, can I have you, too, take those two seats?
05:45:02.980
Curious if you would mix it up sometime and do an all-air perspective.
05:45:14.020
Even if they are a straight couple, Brandon, what about them teeth, though?
05:45:22.300
I'm potentially open to it, but, you know, we have...
05:45:30.500
There is a video of pink shirt with two guys in a hotel room,
05:45:34.180
and none of them are that Quasimodo-looking mother-effer.
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The fucking duck that just called out the cup for being a super cup
05:45:58.780
I know he's not here for the roasts, but, like, he's watching right now.
05:46:03.140
Andrew, I hope you know I do need jokes to watch you laugh.
05:46:06.480
The blonde Brit's been pumped more than the Terminator's shotgun.
05:46:12.320
He's been pumped more than the Terminator's shotgun.
05:46:24.920
Only I sleep with my wife and make beautiful children.
05:47:54.140
i'd be more willing to wait for someone who's a virgin
05:48:22.140
andrew talks about cucks but he literally is captain save a single mom simp
05:48:52.920
why you gotta throw paris hilton under the bus like that
05:48:56.860
brian thank you for bringing those two on the show
05:49:13.380
you got triggered when i pointed things out about your wife
05:49:22.280
you are a bigger grifter than brian lamow horde ftw
05:49:44.360
whatever you do don't send this energy to wow grandma
05:49:52.000
that guy was for sure a cuck in case you missed it
05:50:53.880
if cid is looking for a good comeback from these roasts
05:51:56.420
cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck
05:51:58.660
cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck
05:52:02.820
cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck
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and he doesn't realize all his arguments are based off a christian worldview
05:52:17.820
plus brothel working sw of same std rates as jen-pop
05:52:31.200
Cup boy is about to sign up to be ripped rich and rare
05:52:43.440
Brian, your show has gone down the tubes without vetting your guests
05:53:06.740
That dude's eyes were trying to run away from one another
05:53:17.320
If you agree, Cindy, the strumpet should not be allowed back
05:53:44.080
Yes, Brian, I will do the debate with Wes Watson
05:53:47.580
I will do the debate with Wes Watson on whatever
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Andrew, much respect from the west side of the state
05:57:34.160
Cucka had more bodies than Gimli and Legolas combined
05:58:06.260
Andrew, here is money for your confessions this Sunday
05:58:19.940
I'm sorry, you're actually just telling me that if I have multiple children's bad
05:58:43.320
I spent all evening attending mass at the St. Baptist Church
05:58:52.600
Quite interesting considering some prior comments
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Cause a person is a slave only when he is doing something that he doesn't want to do
06:00:06.780
Jeremy, you fuck me so good during a bang session
06:00:22.720
that with all the greasy hoes you get in there,
06:01:05.720
Me and Andrew, we're joining Weight Watchers together.
06:01:12.540
but I have a boxing match at the end of the year.
06:02:50.980
And it's literally like $200 of cleaning materials
06:03:15.520
than a second-hand dartboard podcast is gangster.
06:03:54.720
Nah, but if it breaks, these are kind of delicate.
06:04:08.360
She flipped it, probably just not in the way you wanted.
06:04:10.900
I did want to say to Andrew what I was kind of getting at earlier
06:04:15.020
is that even though I'm not, like, at this point in my life,
06:04:20.940
what's crazy is maybe having these conversations, Andrew,
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like, in my, you know how YouTube recommended, it'll, like,
06:04:34.020
There's all these, like, Christian-related videos on YouTube
06:04:46.420
Madison, which sandwich are you making for your BF
06:04:54.140
My favorite sandwich to make are tri-tip sandwiches.
06:05:05.540
They're okay, but, like, start with a meatball sub.
06:05:18.240
You don't, like, the thing with, like, steak or tri-tip,
06:05:23.560
You don't want, like, a chewy, like, a, like, a...
06:05:32.880
Something that's too chewy in a sandwich doesn't...
06:05:36.440
It's, like, unsettling, because you finish everything else in the bite.
06:05:44.280
She's probably already contracted hepatitis sitting on that side of the table.
06:05:55.740
But if I make you, like, a really good steak sandwich,
06:06:24.560
Barbecue burger, which has beef, and then on top of that, you put, like, you know, some pork, and then barbecue sauce.
06:06:48.860
We did a test stream a couple of days ago just for pretty much Maddie doing a little test stream, and it was good.
06:06:55.300
Does anybody here at the panel want to get roasted?
06:06:57.600
Like, who's got some cojones, wants to get roasted right now?
06:07:07.540
All they're gonna do is say that I'm way too protected.
06:07:14.900
Like, the most recurring male guest on whatever, fucking hit me.
06:07:30.440
It's great to see you fixing society one debate at a time.
06:07:40.720
Imagine kissing your girl after Spitfire session just to wear silver jewelry.
06:07:46.960
Slags be my friend while I rail his wife on my yacht, then send him away on a dingy.
06:08:03.280
Tri-tip sandwiches are the best go up to Cold Springs.
06:08:50.000
Andrew, those specs on your mic had more charisma and quality content than you have provided the entire night.
06:09:03.440
Don't tell me every time he's got that cigarette.
06:09:53.160
I'm not going to say what it is, but I do have a quit date.
06:09:57.000
I do have to get in shape to knock out a progressive at the end of the year.
06:10:02.140
I've been boxing for many years on and off, and I'm looking forward to it.
06:10:11.280
Girl next to Maddie looks like she just got done fight Thanos in Wakanda.
06:10:56.380
Women are only good for one thing, and that is being a blister.
06:11:11.500
She ate a time here with a certain ninja, and she says Andrew's pee-pee is small.
06:11:50.400
I find them attractive, yes, but I feel like going, like, in that step of, like, dating,
06:11:57.780
I'm glad Cindy didn't take off her makeup earlier.
06:12:01.060
There would have been two cucks at the table if Andrew had to shave his beard.
06:12:15.240
I said that there are white guys that I find attractive, but, like, I wouldn't, I don't
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see myself, like, ever going to the extent of dating.
06:12:25.320
There are white people that are like, oh, yeah, he looked good, but dating, it's like.
06:12:28.880
Yeah, I feel like, yeah, you can, you can distinguish, like, oh, someone.
06:12:40.640
Andrew's imaginary friend when he was younger was Joe Camel.
06:12:57.600
Don't you have some AARP appointments to be at?
06:13:39.920
Wait, if she flips it in, then she gets spiked in the head.
06:13:45.140
I like the certain helmet because it fits my head perfectly.
06:14:00.680
Wait, does anybody here, like, have a preference when it comes...
06:14:02.820
Like, do you date white guys, Latinos, black guys?
06:14:08.880
I don't have a preference, but I mainly have talked to white guys because that was, like,
06:14:34.420
Brian, I'm impressed you got the dude from Third Rock from the Sun.
06:14:50.560
Church underscore of underscore Scientology donated $25.
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Andrew, if you need a good personal trainer, I know of a guy who is a total chad.
06:15:15.700
Once you return to him, your life will never be the same in all the right ways.
06:15:28.920
What's wrong with having some unseasoned white men in your life?
06:16:02.940
I don't think it's because of my weight, though.
06:16:06.620
I actually ordered a brand new one, because these are like, oh, no.
06:16:10.940
How dare you speak about Herman Miller that way.
06:16:28.320
Hard to afford $25, but worth it if you quit, too.
06:16:36.460
Andrew, you are so old, you smoked Lucky Strikes.
06:16:53.800
Is it because of Mad Men they brought them back?
06:17:00.220
Honestly, though, the smoking thing, I feel like you look cooler.
06:17:28.620
How does it feel to stick your tiny peepee in a loose hole that some other dude nutted in?
06:17:50.740
Glad I can see stuff now since flashing that are gone.
06:18:02.660
If you got into a two car accident, there would be 37 causalities.
06:18:07.200
Do you know why Mexico only had 2,000 men at the Alamo?
06:18:14.600
Red underscore and underscore shaved donating $25.
06:18:20.480
All of those white patches on Andrew's beard, Sig Flix.
06:18:26.160
Aislang's gonna be huffing and puffing harder than the big bad wolf when he goes to fight
06:18:37.740
Did you wipe the new seat before you sat in it?
06:18:40.960
I'm sure Sid the sloth was drooling all over that chair.
06:18:47.740
Oh wait, do we have, we're gonna pull this one up.
06:18:51.160
Streamlabs blocked my payment again, so here we are.
06:18:53.420
Why can't the average man debate the non-average overrated woman on your podcast?
06:18:58.340
Any man that didn't pursue higher education but is successful with the family will ruin
06:19:04.800
I didn't want to let you know there's one thing, Will.
06:19:42.240
I'm still waiting for my child's support checks.
06:19:56.640
Brian, I own a six-bedroom house in the Bay Area, so him house poor.
06:20:06.420
That's probably worth millions of dollars, a six-bedroom house.
06:20:13.560
I sent a video of me and your black wife dressed as Storm.
06:20:31.720
The world will never be the same when time passes.
06:20:55.840
Of only Madisonese, but number four from right is low-key hot.
06:21:03.160
Speaking of, Brandon Mel's slid in my DMs asking if he could have...
06:21:33.600
Why are you guys being so mean to my black ex-wife?
06:21:56.140
Would you like to be partners in a new Coom Pod, Death Care Startup Company?
06:22:03.460
Where you start, we finish Buck Goose straight into their veins.
06:22:15.900
Yeah, I was just saying, you guys think that that's okay?
06:22:32.760
Hang on, that sounds like some white racism right there.
06:22:44.600
So, Ben George, basically, I've given a lot of guys chances on the podcast.
06:22:49.900
I've invited on guys who don't have much of a following.
06:22:53.580
Maybe you don't view them as average guys, but I've invited a lot of, maybe they were above average,
06:22:59.880
A lot of guys on the show, the reality is, it's already like, can be, if Andrew's not
06:23:05.040
on the show, it can already be like an 8v1, 7v1.
06:23:09.520
So, I at least want a guy who can back me up on things, and I've had, there's been enough
06:23:13.840
men who've come on the show, who've sat there and either can't back me up.
06:23:22.800
British girl on Sunday thinks it's morally okay to screw dead bodies, then the war and
06:23:29.200
We have had a bad, like, of the British women we've had on the show, I think we've had
06:23:39.560
Even Destiny will smack your ass, but I will literally delete you from the face of the
06:23:54.340
Mad, try it, flip it, and see if you can catch it.
06:24:07.540
No, I don't want a new hat because this one is finally molded to my head shape.
06:24:16.400
And just to finish off on this, look, I've given a lot of guys chances.
06:24:23.660
Given guys chances, the reality is, like, for me to even consider a guy to come on the
06:24:44.720
Latina's top right and left, you're dream girls.
06:24:54.820
Andrew's ex-wife eventually married a president and is commonly known as Big Mike.
06:25:11.820
Trailer Swift then left the show to find a new man to blow.
06:25:22.200
Also, just to, I do want to point out, like, so I'll, I'll do, like, good cop, bad cop with
06:25:31.500
I like watching the usual panel of strumpets for entertainment, but I think a full male
06:25:40.140
Uh, I'm open to potentially, like, down the road, like, uh, and I have a few people on the short
06:25:51.740
Wes Watson, how does it feel being the laughingstock of the entire internet for acting like an emotionally
06:25:58.700
All of the delusions you built up in your head were destroyed with one tantrum.
06:26:03.580
But I do invite him to a debate on the whatever podcast.
06:26:07.840
To be fair to that British girlies, was Andrew bringing up fucking dead bodies as some sort
06:26:23.860
Um, probably as far as who I would have come on, they have to have some demonstrated, uh,
06:26:32.640
like, filmed, recorded debate, or, like, they've been on podcasts before.
06:26:46.300
Just because my girlfriend's chapstick tastes like a bag of...
06:26:56.260
To the girl who had enough balls to wear a cowboy's shirt.
06:26:59.980
I'm getting the vibe she can reverse cowgirl like a champion.
06:27:03.560
Why is that Latina not in a kitchen making it chimichanga right now?
06:27:14.280
I got this shirt from Brandy Melville today because I didn't have, like, a nice shirt that
06:27:41.860
Don't get me wrong, but I don't really, I don't watch it.
06:27:45.680
I watch the highlights sometimes, but not a big, more of a, what do I, I like rugby.
06:28:06.640
I used to torrent, like, all the, it was, like, super rugby, so there's, like, Australia,
06:28:29.980
But Ben George, yeah, just to, final things here, hopefully I don't get too interrupted,
06:28:34.140
but basically, look, there would need to be some demonstrated speaking experience, either
06:28:38.840
speaking experience on a podcast, and I can assess that you have at least some competency
06:29:01.920
I was going to ask if she could name any players for the Cowboys, but can't really handle
06:29:17.360
Really quick, we won't debate it, but I just, I always like to ask, get an answer from this.
06:29:22.080
Are you guys familiar with the man versus bear thing?
06:29:25.460
So, you're walking, you're in the woods, you're going to come across, which do you pick?
06:29:36.920
Madion is always the only nine, and also the rest of you.
06:29:41.100
You are beautiful, and thank you for participating.
06:30:00.600
Sometimes, if you switch the payment method, it'll allow it to go through.
06:30:09.040
Would you rather come across a random man or a random bear?
06:30:16.740
Both are scary for sure, but probably the bear.
06:30:39.280
Probably the man, just because my roommates had experiences with bears.
06:30:44.820
If a cuck's sloot chucked wood, how much wood would the cuck's sloot chucken't for how much?
06:30:53.720
How do you sleep knowing another man blasted man paste all over her face?
06:31:07.680
Still trying to figure out if Sid was the weakest link or the missing link.
06:31:12.720
Guy was missing a few branches on his family tree.
06:31:16.120
Andrew, consider using crayons next time to explain things.
06:31:30.740
He'll go debate some 304s and record it just so I can send you an audition tape.
06:31:40.420
Yeah, look, at this point, I'd need proven track record of debate or podcast appearance.
06:32:03.500
Jake Rattlesnake, he'll be coming back, though.
06:32:15.740
Been watching for a while and just want to say you guys are awesome.
06:32:23.780
You're doing society a big favor, and I'm here hoping that men and women will come together.
06:32:46.120
Just, I know he's, like, he's always traveling around.
06:32:49.300
Yeah, he told me he couldn't moderate a debate.
06:32:51.200
I asked him if he'd moderate one for me, and he said, man, I'd do it any time, but I can't right now because I'm traveling.
06:33:12.500
Gonna go find Sid the Sloth and his Baptist Catholic wife for a good time.
06:33:43.400
I mean, I know you messaged earlier, but good to see you back in the chat, man.
06:34:04.980
We're not going to debate it, but those are the answers.
06:34:07.700
Uh, seems pretty mixed there on the bear thing.
06:34:16.580
Brian transforming from man into the bear in real life.
06:34:29.220
Um, I only date women with large labia, by the way.
06:34:36.500
Of course Wakanda forever would choose the bear Andrew.
06:34:39.760
She literally fought ravenous alien monsters with nothing more than a spear.
06:35:18.040
We're going to do the Bumble segment, and then we're going to...
06:35:21.180
Yeah, we might have something like that coming up.
06:35:38.220
I'm trying to get some debates lined up for Andrew.
06:36:00.040
Black-haired, spicy mommy, and wholesome blondie.
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Save underscore ranking, underscore four, underscore Brian donated $25.
06:36:48.020
Wait, so Andrew, really quick, the thing I was going to say about, like, the religious thing, and I kept, I mean, it's no surprise I was getting interrupted, but, like, so having had you on the show, and I've been, like, watching a bunch of these kind of, like, his videos on YouTube that keep popping up about Christianity, and, like, the history of it and stuff, and, like, the different denominations, and here are the different heresies.
06:37:12.080
These, there's all these videos that are, like, millions of views, and it's really, actually, like, the lore, the Christian lore.
06:37:20.720
Like, I didn't know that there was so much lore, like, until you start, like, digging, and, like, I mean, shit, it's been around for 2,000 years.
06:37:30.640
No, what I was going to say is, if I ever, like, like, if I ever become religious, I think I would become orthodox.
06:38:01.560
Yeah, no, it's, like, because you're talking, you, like, pointed out how, because I didn't even know really much about different denominations.
06:38:08.360
I just thought, you know, I do Catholic and Christian, but.
06:38:12.280
First tip, Brian, agnostic for a long time myself.
06:38:19.480
30 days sober from alcohol, no longer suicidal, and starting to be productive.
06:38:28.300
One of the most powerful interactions that I think Andrew's had on the show was with that.
06:38:32.980
It was the, I don't even know if she was Protestant, non-denominational.
06:38:37.360
I don't know if you recall, Andrew, the, it was the, it's bad to, it was the Asian woman.
06:38:48.220
Brian, turn it around and ask men, women, or the bear.
06:38:55.100
Wilde, turn around and ask men, women, or the bear.
06:38:59.380
But you were having a back and forth with her, and then like, I don't know, she was accusing you of not being like, I don't know the exact word, not being like a true, or not being Christian-ly, or not being Christian-like or something.
06:39:14.700
And then you kind of dug back, and you're like, well, what I believe in is actually powerful.
06:39:20.120
And you said it with such conviction, and I was like, it actually is the way Andrew, like, it is powerful.
06:39:26.140
And that was like a really like, whoa, like a bomb drop moment.
06:39:38.360
In fact, I will intercede with the Orthodox clergy in your area to make sure that you can go to a divine liturgy.
06:39:53.800
Can you do that, like, just to go, just go check it out?
06:39:59.060
There's like a really, I think there's like a really nice Greek Orthodox church.
06:40:02.800
Very prominent Greek Orthodox church in your area.
06:40:18.480
When Rachel's down there, she'll take you over there, Brian.
06:40:32.660
Well, no, because it's like, I mean, like watching all these videos, learning about Christianity,
06:40:37.560
it's like, it's like, if you're going to be a Christian, you might as well be like the most, the dopest version of Christian, right?
06:40:49.060
There is only one of the dopest version of Christianity, right?
06:41:11.280
And, uh, it's definitely, uh, definitely, what, what do you go to?
06:41:21.360
I don't know if they have like a specific denomination.
06:41:25.900
No, I'm not going to go to like one of those like heresy churches like Andrew talks about.
06:41:30.300
I'm not going to go to a heresy, like if I were to like become properly religious,
06:41:34.780
I wouldn't go to like one of the heresy churches.
06:41:36.540
Like, I'm going to like the fucking, like, this is like the faith type shit.
06:41:47.700
Jordan Peterson has a very long playlist on YouTube called The Psychological Significance of the
06:42:01.780
Okay, we'll do Bumble, then we're going to wrap up.
06:42:03.240
By your looks, you are an eight, the fact that you're saving yourself makes you a ten.
06:42:08.200
Unfortunately, the Big Bang Niner gang thing makes you a two.
06:42:24.360
Brian, the traditional liturgies are the most beautiful.
06:42:27.440
I go to the traditional Latin Mass, bringing Catholic Orthodoxy back.
06:42:34.720
Andrew always based even if we disagree a little.
06:42:37.980
Like, my view is, you can't be half a gangster.
06:42:47.080
So, if you're going to do something, so, like...
06:42:59.720
Brian and Andrew look like a before-and-a-half.
06:43:03.900
Wait, that has to be, like, the comment of the night.
06:43:06.360
Love y'all, love the content, and keep strong with the entitled.
06:43:18.500
Well, yeah, because, I mean, like, all these...
06:43:23.780
Because, I mean, even from a secular perspective, like, if I'm against all, like, the feminism
06:43:28.280
and all that stuff, like, that shit's invaded, like, the mainstream churches, hasn't it?
06:43:43.780
We can't wait to see you there, and we can't wait to introduce you to our...
06:44:24.040
I hope when Rachel comes out, she takes you over.
06:44:26.680
Just like you said, time permitting, one liturgy, that's all I ask.
06:44:48.800
Keep it up and glad Andrew is a recurring guest.
06:45:01.760
It occurs to me that, like, so there's a lot of, like, bad stuff going on.
06:45:09.780
There's a lot of bad stuff going on, and, like, I don't think some, like, what's going
06:45:15.040
on with the mainstream church is ever going to be an antidote to the bad things that are
06:45:19.500
You need an actual powerful movement, and, like, these churches that just, like, everything
06:45:26.700
There's actually, I guess, like, it's a heresy where it's, like, people are, what's the,
06:45:33.840
what's the, what's the, I watched a video on the heresy stuff recently.
06:45:37.660
So, like, what, what is a, that's different from blasphemy, right?
06:45:44.320
So, heresy is spreading the wrong interpretation of the Bible to other people knowing that
06:45:53.700
you've been corrected, and you still do it anyway.
06:45:59.080
Anyways, I don't want, I feel like I've taken the panels getting.
06:46:08.540
Never been happier in my entire existence, probably, than the fact that I think Rachel
06:46:13.860
Wilson's going to take you to your first liturgy.
06:46:16.920
Will you take some, will you, will you promise me you'll take some pictures?
06:46:35.220
And we can talk more after the show, privately.
06:46:39.880
But really quick, let's do the Bumble segment, just a lighthearted piece.
06:46:44.460
Yeah, this is just like a lighthearted dating-related thing to kind of end the show on.
06:46:57.040
It's like a YouTube raid, so we'll send the viewers over to Andrew.
06:47:02.220
Yeah, he's just saying, he'll send the live chat over.
06:47:07.840
They're not going to come, like, pillage my village or anything.
06:47:19.840
Um, okay, so I'm 19, so I would date someone, like, maybe, like, two years older than me.
06:47:42.920
What's the huge problem with believing in God nowadays?
06:47:46.660
It's as if PPA refused to believe just for the sake of not giving in.
06:47:50.920
When science meets supernatural in this day and age, we all need to get better.
06:48:45.280
My dad and I have been going to the local Orthodox Church in our area.
06:48:49.820
The last two Sundays, I'm thinking about converting.
06:48:57.340
And your old man, he ain't going to lead you astray.
06:48:59.560
Um, so coming back to her Bumble review, and then.
06:49:07.000
Yeah, people are definitely going to be mad at me.
06:49:16.560
Low key, I like somebody that pray a little itch for me.
06:49:19.080
You know, he could probably teach me a little something.
06:49:57.620
It's easy to avoid the topic in this crazy world.
06:50:00.660
But when you understand that Jesus is who he said he was, and he is still alive today,
06:50:15.900
Many come to it logically, and then they get their faith afterwards.
06:50:20.160
Just let him go to a single liturgy, and boys, we've got him.
06:50:39.780
I assigned your new official Slavic last name earlier.
06:51:12.560
Every time Sid the Sloth leaned into the mic, I thought he was going to say the last dandelion
06:52:37.260
So I just turned 19 in February, so 18 to 20 would be my preference.
06:54:39.520
Um, for me, I think my age range would be 19 to 22.
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Minnesota underscore wise underscore woman 47 donated $25.
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Cuck Christ, not a canker, a.k.a. two feet lower than a see you next Tuesday, boys.
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He's actually kind of cute, so I'm going to say yes.
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Brian, why don't you ever use rating argument of external recognition to form a person's internal
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I'm good at jujitsu, but my community slash dojo recognizes me with belt.
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Um, I like them a little bit older, so like 25, 30.
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There's fucking a couple male models in that fucking lineup.
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Wait, what was the thing that somebody pointed out about the argument or whatever?
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It was external recognition to form a person's, is this about the rating thing?
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I'm good at jujitsu, but my community dojo recognizes me with belt.
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I'd like that to be expanded on, but we have Ben George here.
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Do the same test using their images with the 5'5 woman man panel.
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I'm going to email her this morning in the morning.
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Nick, I'm going to get you pulled up, get this pulled up real quick.
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Thanks to all of you who came out from the panel this evening.
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Yeah, I'm like, is this like this all the time?
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I mean, if it was, you would be having even more fun, right?
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Nick, I'm going to raid Aladar if you can get him pulled up.
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Don't you just hate it when your cat wakes you up like this?
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All right, guys, we're going to do a Twitch raid for those of you who are watching on Twitch.
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He's playing World of Warcraft, I believe, Classic.
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He's got, I don't know, a couple, like 100 viewers or something right now.
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So, I always like to raid smaller people, just help them out a little bit.
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Hit the like button, please, on your way out, guys, if you're watching on YouTube.
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Thank you to the viewers for tuning in tonight.
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You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
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Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, supports the show.
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You know, some demonetization on the YouTube side.
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So, really appreciate your patronage because this show is viewer-supported.
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We will be live again Sunday at 5 p.m. Pacific with...
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So, we will be live again Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
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We have Rachel Wilson, Andrew Wilson's wife, joining us.
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Any girls who want to be on the show, DM at whatever on Instagram.
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Give me just a moment while I get our Twitch raid going here.
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We were going to raid Aladar, but he went offline.
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So, it's kind of like you want to at least raid somebody who has that, like, enabled where they can get notified that they're being raided.
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He's playing World of Warcraft Classic Cataclysm.
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Oh, but he's been streaming already for 12 hours.
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Yeah, it's actually crazy, though, the people that will, like, come on the show and be like,
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These Twitch streamers, bro, these guys will stream every day.
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They'll stream for 8, 9, 10, 12 hours, like, every single day.
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This is, at least what we do is, it's a little different, but it's...
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All right, those of you on Twitch, I'm going to do a raid over there.
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All right, guys, thank you for watching on Twitch.
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Just dropped today World of Warcraft Classic Galacticalism.
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All right, thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
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The entire reason I even ever found this podcast
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Get him out of his Austin trap house if you can.
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All right, we're going to raid Asmongold here really quick.
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All right, thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
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I know, I love visuals, but it looks interesting.
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Low-key, like, if I knew how to play these games, I would.
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I don't know if I really go on a podcast like that or not.
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Generally, the reason why I don't do that stuff isn't actually...
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The only reason is because I'm very busy and I have other things that I'm doing.
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If I could just go into a hyperbolic time chamber and just do everything I wanted to do, then
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The only reason I don't do it is because I just don't have a lot of time.
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We'll come to Texas, set it up just for Asmond.
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My master externalizes my ability by recognizing me with higher belts.
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Same for women's rating themselves as tens with model contracts slash getting DMs to claim
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We didn't even finish going around the table on, like, racial preference.
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Yeah, I mean, but we don't have time for that now.
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We are going to do a raid over there to Andrew.
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It was a hectic show, but I appreciate the panel.
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Remember, Sunday, Tuesday, Rachel Wilson on the Whatever Podcast.
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Go drop Andrew a subscribe when we send you over.
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