Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #15

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00:03:22.940 easy on me guys. This is uneven odds. Okay. So we're going to have the guests introduce

00:03:29.560 themselves. So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.

00:03:34.220 Hi everyone. My name is Kara and I'm 18 and I'm a model fashion content creator and also

00:03:41.180 a student in UCSB. Thank you. You're a content creator. Yeah. Like mainly do like fashion stuff.

00:03:48.720 Okay. Yeah. Do you have a YouTube channel or? No, honestly, like I'm mailing to Instagram

00:03:54.480 right now. Just Instagram. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Cool. My name's Jackie. I'm 21 years old. I'm

00:04:00.700 a communication major at UCSB and applied psych minor. I'm also a personal trainer and I am single.

00:04:09.560 My name is Katie. I'm 21 years old and I'm a psychological and brain sciences major.

00:04:14.740 And what was the third question? Was there a third question? What? Are you single? Oh,

00:04:22.900 I am single. Wait. I don't, I didn't ask that. Just, I'll get to that. Name, age, occupation,

00:04:29.820 and or school major. Yeah. And that was it. Okay. Sydney? My name's Sydney. I am an acting

00:04:35.680 major. So I'm starting to become an actress and I do modeling on the side and I think I covered

00:04:43.520 everything. And hi, I'm Claudia. I'm 21. I went to UCSB and now I do management full time. So

00:04:53.460 it's fun. Okay. By the way, everyone's Instagrams are in the description. So please show them some

00:04:59.460 love. Give them a follow. Give me a follow while you're at it. So I want to go around the table

00:05:04.140 once again, relationship status, longest relationship. And are you on a dating app?

00:05:13.300 I'm dating someone right now. So I'm not single and my longest relationship I think is a year

00:05:21.640 and I'm not on dating app right now because I'm dating someone. Yeah. And your longest relationship,

00:05:28.140 is that your current relationship? No, no. Okay. So is it pretty new, your current one? Yes. Okay.

00:05:35.000 How long have y'all been? I think four, three, three or four months. Three or four months. Okay.

00:05:43.000 And is it a fellow UCSB student or? Yeah. It has a rising senior. Rising senior? Yeah. What,

00:05:50.080 what is a rising senior? Like you're going to be a senior this fall. Oh, I see. Okay. Got it.

00:05:55.580 Got it. Okay. And did, is he also an international student or? No, he's from Los Autos. Okay. Like a place.

00:06:05.260 Sure. Yeah. Got it. I'm single. My longest relationship was a little over three years

00:06:12.560 and I am on a dating app. Which ones? Tinder. Just Tinder? Yeah. But I'm not like scrolling on it.

00:06:20.680 It's more so of a, like, put my Instagram in the bio, get some followers. Wow. Finesse. The finesse.

00:06:29.220 So, so you're just basically, you're putting your Instagram in the thing and you're getting followers.

00:06:35.640 I post like fitness content on my Instagram. So it's just a nice way to get some traffic.

00:06:40.580 Are you a trainer? I am a trainer. Yeah. Okay. So.

00:06:43.420 But are you genuinely trying to date anybody or is it just for cloud? No, not on Tinder. Not off

00:06:49.280 Tinder. No. So then why even be on Tinder? It's just to have my Instagram in the bio to gain

00:06:54.740 traffic on my account. But, but it is a dating app, right? It's not a here, let's promote. Well,

00:06:59.620 you know, they have those people where they're like, I'm looking for friends, but no, I'm using it. Do

00:07:04.320 you think most guys on there are looking for friends? No. I mean, friends, they can fuck,

00:07:07.700 but like not. Right. They want a little bit more than that. Yeah. Okay. All right. Now,

00:07:14.000 do you leave, have you let any guys on? Um, no. Cause I, cause you are on that. I mean,

00:07:19.520 I used to be on Tinder to like hook up like me guys, whatever, but right now, like that's

00:07:24.560 not my sole purpose. Okay. Got it. But yeah, no, I don't, I wouldn't say I've let guys

00:07:29.300 on, on Tinder. Cause I imagine like, do you match with guys or you're not even matching

00:07:33.720 with anybody and it's just so they see your profile or are you, do you swipe on everybody?

00:07:38.540 I don't really swipe on it. Yeah. No. Okay. All right. It's promotional. Okay. Yeah. Um,

00:07:45.080 I am kind of single. Um, and my longest relationship was probably like six months and then I'm not

00:07:56.180 on many dating apps. Kind of single. What does that mean? I'm dating. I would say, I think a lot of

00:08:03.460 people, yeah, cause I feel like a lot of people take dating and like a relationship as the same

00:08:08.460 thing as synonymous, but I don't think they are. I think like dating is something you do to get to

00:08:12.960 know people and like, you know, so I've been dating someone for a while. How long?

00:08:19.840 Well, it's someone I've like known forever. So like, okay, you were friends before. Yeah.

00:08:23.660 Sure. Yeah. So like in the flirting stage and stuff, probably it's my ex. I don't know why I didn't

00:08:29.540 just say that. Wait, hold on. It's your ex. Yes. Yeah. So we're just kind of like talking again,

00:08:38.920 you could say. Who initiated that? It kind of, he's in my friend group. So we kind of always are

00:08:47.360 like together and it kind of just, we just kind of started like flirting again and stuff like that.

00:08:52.780 Why did he break up with you? He didn't. Um, we kind of, it was like a bad communication type of

00:08:58.940 thing. And we just decided that we would take a break and like let each other grow a little bit

00:09:03.340 and then come back to it. So that's where we're at right now. So it was mutual. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I

00:09:07.780 see. Sydney. Um, I'm single still. Yeah. Thanks. Rip. Um, yeah, no, I'm still single, not seeing

00:09:16.160 anybody. And my longest relationship was six months. Didn't some guy DM you though, from a

00:09:22.080 previous, uh, he saw you on the show and he DM'd you. Yeah. Nothing didn't go down. No, he just

00:09:28.900 like followed me and he DM'd me. He's like, Hey, I see you on the podcast. Like you're one of my

00:09:32.380 favorites. And I was like, thanks. It was, I don't know. It was kind of cool. Cause like I do acting.

00:09:37.040 So it was like, it felt like a little fan. It was cool. Yeah. But no, still not seeing anybody.

00:09:43.860 Any dating apps? Uh, yeah. Tinder. Just Tinder? Yeah. Just Tinder. I promise. You promise?

00:09:52.040 I promise. It's just Tinder. The other ones are just like, I don't know. Tinder's simple.

00:09:56.320 Like swipe left, swipe right message. The other ones are a little too hectic for me.

00:10:01.520 When's the last time you were on a date? Uh, like maybe a month and a half ago. Month and

00:10:11.140 a half ago. Month or two. Was it from Tinder or? I think it was from Tinder. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

00:10:20.240 I'm, uh, currently seeing somebody, but it's very casual. So we would both say we're single,

00:10:26.440 but we're not seeing other people. And I do still have Tinder and I also have her,

00:10:32.040 which is like a dating app for women. Um, but I just am not on there.

00:10:36.640 What is her? It's just like Tinder just for women. Oh, like, yeah. It's like for lesbians

00:10:45.280 or bi women? Yeah. Oh, okay. For queer people, I should say. Okay. So you're, are you bisexual?

00:10:50.420 I'm technically pansexual, but it falls under the bisexual umbrella. I know. I don't want to

00:10:54.680 sound like that person, but. No, it's okay. Pan, pansexual. That's like you're open to

00:11:00.740 all genders. Yeah. Including like transgender and okay. Got it. Okay. So long as you're hot.

00:11:09.000 We can make it work. As long as you're hot. Okay. So just, just reminder. So you're single? No,

00:11:17.980 wait. I'm single, single, single, not single. Okay. So when's the last time y'all have hooked up with

00:11:27.580 someone? What do you consider hooking up? Sex. Like sex. Oh. Sunday. Yeah. Well, yeah,

00:11:37.600 but you're, you're in a, you're in a thing. This is for the singles. Oh, for Sydney too. Yeah. Sydney,

00:11:43.300 why don't you go ahead? Um, within the month. Yeah. Wait, but I thought, didn't you say your last

00:11:51.720 date was like a month and a half ago? Yeah. Okay. So you differentiate between a date

00:11:57.280 and having sex? I mean, this was like someone that I was like talking to a while ago from

00:12:03.260 like out of town. And then he came in town and he like visited and stayed the night.

00:12:09.860 Jackie? Five months ago. Five months? Five months. Really? Really. Nothing. I don't be fucking like.

00:12:20.260 By choice. By choice. By choice. Not to sound like, but yeah, by choice. Why do you think

00:12:29.620 you're single? Well, I'm not actively searching for a boyfriend right now. So I think that definitely

00:12:35.360 plays into it, but I also don't really like the dating pool here in Santa Barbara or in my hometown.

00:12:41.940 So yeah, I'm not really liking the options that are presented to me. And I like meeting people in

00:12:46.480 real life, not like over Instagram or social media. Yeah. So. Okay. Huh. Wait, so you don't,

00:12:55.140 you said you don't like meeting people here in Santa Barbara. I don't like the dating pool. Cause

00:12:59.660 like I said before, like I've been on Tinder, like I'm a fourth year here. So I've seen like

00:13:03.520 most of the fish in the sea. You've been around the block. Not in that sense. Not in that sense,

00:13:10.480 but you. I've seen, I've been strolling on the block and I've seen. Yeah. You know. Okay. And

00:13:16.520 you, you did four years at, is this your fourth year at UCSB? This is going to be my fourth year.

00:13:20.680 Yes. Like you didn't go to a two year and then transfer. Okay. So you've been here for a minute

00:13:24.080 and you two are, you two are friends, right? Yeah. Have you both been here for four years? Yeah. Okay.

00:13:30.080 Got it. And you, this is your first year? Yeah. I actually just finished my first year.

00:13:35.640 At UCSB. Yeah. So this year going to be the second year. Okay. Yeah. So you three go to UCSB,

00:13:41.800 you go to CC and are you, sorry, remind me, are you in school? No, I took time off of school. Okay.

00:13:48.200 Got it. So I, I, I want to ask this question cause I've asked this last week. Um, of the three of

00:13:56.760 you that go to UCSB, what do you think about, and do you look down upon men who go to Santa Barbara

00:14:02.400 City College, SBCC? I personally don't mind. Like, I think it's great that they're still

00:14:10.400 like chasing their goals. Like there's nothing wrong with CCs. And I think there's definitely

00:14:14.000 a really big stigma surrounding that. Um, but I would say like the CC culture is a little different

00:14:20.720 than UCSB. I feel, um, I feel like they definitely do have, like they party more. Like obviously we all

00:14:29.120 party. We're all here in Santa Barbara. We're having a good fucking time, but I do think like

00:14:32.720 they party more. So they're out more, they're on the streets. Yeah. Okay. Got it. I want to,

00:14:42.080 I want to go around one last time on two questions. Actually, you know what? Nevermind. Uh, so the

00:14:51.040 first thing I want to ask you guys is what do you guys think about cougars? So older women

00:14:58.800 dating younger guys, for example, a woman, you guys are familiar with the term cougar.

00:15:05.040 So a woman in her mid thirties or let's say 30, mid thirties, late thirties, even getting into her

00:15:11.200 forties, maybe even older dating a guy in college or maybe a guy in his mid twenties. What do you think

00:15:18.640 about the cougar phenomenon? Are you like, you go girl, slay queen?

00:15:26.160 I am. Let's start, let's start over here with you. I mean, um, I don't think it's like a problem,

00:15:32.880 but it's just a personal choice. So yeah, I have no opinion on that. So whether like you date an older

00:15:40.800 man or you date an older woman, it's just your personal choice. And as long as like, if you're the

00:15:46.720 younger one, if you're happy with the relationship where you can get, then it's just totally fine.

00:15:53.040 Yeah. I agree with her. Um, I think like if you're both having fun, then hey, like who cares? But

00:16:00.000 I do think like to an extent of the dating, it can get a little odd. Like if you're trying to pursue

00:16:06.640 marriage with someone who's like 20 years younger than you, I don't know. I don't know. You know,

00:16:13.040 sure they might be really mature for their age, but I don't know what's wrong with the people your

00:16:17.680 age. Like, yeah. So not in favor of the cougar thing. Not in favor of cougars searching for serious

00:16:29.200 relationships with younger men. I'm talking younger, like 15 years plus. What about like 10 years?

00:16:36.400 Okay. Like, yeah, that's okay. Okay. But like 15, that's kind of where I draw the line. That's too

00:16:40.320 much. 15 is too much. Okay. What do you think? I feel like it's very situational. Like it depends

00:16:45.520 on who the person is. And like, you know, sometimes younger people or younger men are more mature,

00:16:50.560 or sometimes it's older men that are more mature. So it just depends. I don't have a problem with it.

00:16:54.480 I think you do what you want. I have like friends who have parents that are like 20 years apart from each

00:16:59.440 other and they're working out perfectly fine. So I don't see why it's an issue. Yeah. I mean,

00:17:04.880 I kind of say like whatever floats your boat, you know, like if I kind of like agree with what

00:17:09.840 Jackie says, like if the cougar is looking to like settle down, it's a lot into the mic. If a cougar

00:17:16.240 is looking to like settle down, it's a lot more difficult because then this like 20 something

00:17:20.560 year old might be on like a different page. But if they're on the same page, like I don't see

00:17:26.080 why it can't work. You know, like it's, it's all about like the two people.

00:17:32.160 I think the same. So long as they're consenting and you know, they're on the same page about what

00:17:38.800 they are, that's fine. But shouldn't be a big deal.

00:17:42.640 Okay. Got it. Got it. So we're going to react to something here. Eric, if you can go ahead and

00:17:52.480 switch it on over to the infographic and then the, there we go. All right. So this is Leonardo

00:18:01.760 DiCaprio. This is an infographic that was on Reddit a couple of years ago. They recently,

00:18:06.880 it was redone, but it got taken off of Reddit. So this is a couple of years old. I think it was

00:18:11.440 last done in 2019. So I don't know if you guys heard Leonardo DiCaprio recently broke up with his

00:18:19.920 most recent girlfriend, Camila Marone. And there's a trend. He seems to never date a woman past 25.

00:18:30.320 So if you see there at the bottom, uh, he broke up with Bar Raffaele when she turned 25,

00:18:38.160 he broke up with Kelly Roarback, broke up with Nina Agdahl. And now recently he broke up with Camila

00:18:47.120 when she, I think she turned 25. Uh, as you see his age continues to go up. Um, Leonardo DiCaprio,

00:18:56.400 obviously incredibly famous, probably one of the top tier, you know, actors out there.

00:19:03.440 Um, so I want to get your guys' take on Leo, on this chart, on what you think about it.

00:19:10.720 And, uh, let's start over here with you. What do I think about it? What do you think about that?

00:19:17.840 Um, I think it's, I don't know, like, pretty normal because, like, he's such a,

00:19:24.720 like, famous celebrity and he was, like, super handsome when he was young and he played so many

00:19:31.120 movies and stuff. So he got a bunch of choice, I have to say. Yeah. And a lot of girls fancied him

00:19:38.960 because we all know, like, he's a super good looking guy when he was young. So, I mean, yeah,

00:19:45.920 it's kind of reasonable. Yeah.

00:19:47.920 Yeah. When he was young. Yeah. I mean, do you think he's still handsome now? Uh,

00:19:53.200 I would say not my type. Not your type. Yeah. What's your type? Uh, I don't really have a type,

00:20:00.480 but I usually, like, I mean, like, personality is the most important thing. But for appearance,

00:20:07.680 maybe, like, taller guys. Okay. At least to have, like, you have to be taller than me.

00:20:12.560 How tall are you? I'm 5'8 and a half. So what, what is your height? What, my height?

00:20:18.880 Like, minimum height for a guy. 5'8. 5'8. Okay. So just your height are taller. Yeah. Got it. Just

00:20:25.440 really quick around the panel. Do y'all think Leo is still a babe? Big. Babe. Is he still a babe? No.

00:20:37.600 She's feeling it. I feel like when I think of celebrities sometimes,

00:20:41.200 I put them on this pedestal and I forget that they're actually people. So, like,

00:20:44.880 when I think about him as a regular person, no. Tilt the microphone up towards you just a bit.

00:20:49.440 Perfect. Yeah. When I think of him as a regular person, I think definitely not. But, like,

00:20:53.200 as a celebrity, yes. I think his acting is really good. Sure. Sydney? I don't really look at him like

00:20:59.600 that, honestly. So Leonardo DiCaprio slides into your DMs. Don't do that. Don't do that.

00:21:04.880 Finds you, runs into you at Trader Joe's. You're not going for him? Yeah. If he slides in my DMs,

00:21:12.560 I'll be like, hey. It is Leonardo DiCaprio. It is Leonardo DiCaprio. He's breaking up with

00:21:16.560 you when you turn 25 though. I'm sure. I have another solid four years though. Like,

00:21:20.560 that could be. Okay. That could be a good solid. I could make that happen in four years. There you

00:21:24.320 go. Yeah. Okay. And then? No, I'm not really checking for him. Okay. So just to bring it back,

00:21:31.920 I know I was asking if you guys still think he's attractive, but just your reaction to the chart,

00:21:37.120 you know, him, his preferences in women, your thoughts. So kind of relating it to the Cougar

00:21:44.160 conversation, I do think it's a bit weird that it's like a consistent, like I'm looking for under 25 or 25.

00:21:50.240 Capping at 25 because then it's a pattern. And now it's like, okay, dude, like why are you

00:21:55.920 constantly searching for women who are 25 and under? I mean, sure. Maybe you guys might have a

00:22:00.160 connection, but I'm sure you may be able to connect with women who are closer to your age. And it's just

00:22:06.560 like, if you're constantly talking to younger women, when you have like that much of an age gap,

00:22:11.920 I don't know, maybe, I don't know. I just, I'm not a fan personally of that. Okay. Yeah.

00:22:18.160 Well, my initial reaction was I was kind of shocked because like, I didn't know that I had

00:22:26.960 never seen that trend before. But yeah, I agree with everything she said. I think it's when it

00:22:31.680 becomes a pattern, it's when it's like weird. Yeah, I mean, I never noticed the pattern before,

00:22:37.200 which I think is a little bit odd, but I think like it's not, um, like it's a celebrity, you know,

00:22:46.160 if he can pull, he can pull. Like if he's like having a good time dating, great. But it is like

00:22:50.480 kind of what I mentioned, like if he's looking for marriage with these girls who are in a different

00:22:54.960 stage of their life than him, then it's different. But it's not like he's like dating like fresh out of

00:23:00.380 high school and like trying to groom them in a way. Like these women are 25. Like they're like out of

00:23:05.000 college, like looking for a house, like trying to settle down. So like, if that's what works for

00:23:10.540 them, but it is weird that he's like breaking up and like ending things right when they're 25.

00:23:15.400 I think that's a little odd.

00:23:17.700 Well, we don't know exactly what's going on with these relationships. It could certainly be the case

00:23:22.080 that they're breaking up with him. So.

00:23:25.420 I did hear a rumor that the reason why he was dating women like up into a point, like aging them

00:23:32.500 out was that he wanted to give them time to find their own families. But to me, it's still kind of

00:23:37.660 weird because I feel like you could just still date an older woman who just doesn't want to have kids.

00:23:41.880 So it has to be like the age thing for him. I don't know. It's just so consistent. And he keeps

00:23:46.760 getting older and older and older. I feel like at some point, shouldn't your taste grow up with you

00:23:52.400 in a way? Like you're not looking for that kind of thing in a woman?

00:23:56.180 I also feel like if if like the rumor is true, if he is breaking up with them or the

00:24:01.100 relationship's ending so that they can find their families, like that just tells you how serious the

00:24:05.000 dating is. So in that case, I still think it's weird that he's dating specifically like 25 and under.

00:24:11.480 But at the same time, like it does seem like he's going into it with his intentions being known

00:24:16.260 and told to the woman. So

00:24:18.840 hey, go for it, Leonardo.

00:24:24.180 Okay. Any other thoughts from anybody?

00:24:28.800 All right. So

00:24:30.060 there were some kind of different

00:24:34.060 answers there when I first asked you guys about the cougars and then just your reaction to the

00:24:39.580 Leonardo DiCaprio thing. So that's kind of interesting. But

00:24:43.440 more broadly speaking, removing Leonardo DiCaprio from this conversation,

00:24:49.740 what do you think about age gaps in dating?

00:24:57.560 And I'm referring to adult relationships. So both people, you know, obviously over the age of 18,

00:25:03.540 but for example, say a 35 year old dating a 25 year old or a 30 year old dating a 20 year old,

00:25:08.640 for example, we'll start with you. What do you think?

00:25:12.660 Honestly, I think

00:25:14.640 I don't know, like

00:25:16.520 some people like to date

00:25:18.680 people like with have this

00:25:20.440 are in the same age with them, but

00:25:22.600 like some people are not like for me personally,

00:25:24.880 I would

00:25:25.340 I like date like guys older

00:25:28.620 than me, like even five

00:25:30.840 years old, older

00:25:32.340 or I mean, as long as

00:25:34.780 like under 15, 10, 10 years old, older than me, that that's fine, because I don't know, I think

00:25:43.240 at the same age, men like

00:25:46.140 they are like, I don't know, they grow mature, like slower

00:25:50.540 than women, like mentally.

00:25:53.000 It's also depends on like what you've been through, like what kind of environment you grow up.

00:25:57.420 But I just feel like

00:25:59.180 I don't know, like

00:26:01.500 when men grow older, they got

00:26:04.060 more protect, protective

00:26:05.880 and they know how to take care of others.

00:26:08.380 So yeah, that's just my personal

00:26:10.240 preference.

00:26:12.680 Okay.

00:26:14.420 I think age gaps are really sticky.

00:26:18.260 Like

00:26:18.700 when it comes to dating,

00:26:22.160 if you

00:26:22.840 okay, pretty much like the whole like

00:26:25.280 thing, if you are constantly searching for women who are a certain age, I think it's just a little odd.

00:26:30.600 However, I do understand like

00:26:32.180 people can be mature for their age, like

00:26:35.000 I get it, but I just think it is a little bit odd if you are an older person

00:26:40.800 like

00:26:41.940 searching for someone who is a certain age.

00:26:45.000 That's where I just think it's really weird.

00:26:46.680 But I do like understand relationships where

00:26:48.740 people are older, some people are younger

00:26:50.840 and they just click and like, I think that's cute, cool, but if you're

00:26:55.000 looking for someone a certain age, I don't know, that's just weird to me.

00:27:00.680 Like I said with the whole like cougar thing, I don't think it's an issue.

00:27:05.140 But I think where it becomes weird for me is when

00:27:08.820 it's happening over and over again

00:27:11.180 and like

00:27:12.220 it's becoming a trend

00:27:14.620 and that's where it's like kind of weird

00:27:16.560 whether it's a woman or a man.

00:27:18.520 Yeah, I mean, I kind of like

00:27:21.600 what Jackie said about

00:27:23.360 if you keep like hunting for someone that that's specific age.

00:27:27.680 That's weird.

00:27:29.700 But I mean, I also agree like

00:27:31.440 Nick and Priyanka are 10 years apart

00:27:33.760 and they're extremely happy

00:27:35.440 and they've even mentioned like their age

00:27:37.740 gap and they make jokes about it.

00:27:39.640 But like for me, like I'm 21

00:27:41.160 and if I'm talking to somebody and like

00:27:43.060 the guy's like, oh yeah, I'm 19.

00:27:44.780 That kind of, even that like, that like small age gap

00:27:48.720 like makes me feel a little weird.

00:27:50.620 But that's like also based on like a maturity thing.

00:27:54.020 But if you're older, I feel like if it works

00:27:56.020 and you like like the person, like who cares?

00:28:00.780 Yeah, I actually started seeing somebody who

00:28:03.080 we have a pretty significant age gap between us

00:28:05.540 and it's been interesting.

00:28:08.420 I definitely like it better than dating guys

00:28:11.440 who are closer to my age

00:28:12.660 because I feel like maybe it's just because it's IV

00:28:15.100 but everybody here is kind of like a fuck boy.

00:28:17.560 They're on that same mentality.

00:28:19.620 What's a, what is a, what is a fuck boy?

00:28:22.680 It's just a guy who like not only

00:28:24.300 because wanting to sleep around is fine.

00:28:27.540 Like you can want to sleep around

00:28:28.960 but I feel like they just don't want to be up front with you

00:28:31.180 about what they want.

00:28:32.640 So they'll try to like, they play games.

00:28:35.800 I'm like, there's no point in playing games.

00:28:37.100 We're both adults, like we both want to have sex.

00:28:38.940 Let's just be very open and honest and clear about it.

00:28:41.200 Let's just have sex and that's it.

00:28:43.040 The thing is, is that guys can't really be up front

00:28:46.400 with women about that.

00:28:49.440 Why not?

00:28:50.460 No, no guy can just, okay, let me ask.

00:28:53.540 We'll go around the table on this.

00:28:54.980 If a guy just came up to you, walked up to you

00:28:57.260 and just said politely, hey, I think you're attractive.

00:29:02.200 Do you want to have sex with me?

00:29:03.940 What's your response going to be?

00:29:05.700 No.

00:29:07.100 If I'm feeling him and he's fine as fuck,

00:29:09.940 I'm going to be like, yeah, see me later tonight.

00:29:13.840 Cap, stop.

00:29:14.620 Not, I'm not happy keeping it a buck.

00:29:17.440 You're going to feel a certain type of way

00:29:18.800 if a guy comes up to you and he's like, hey, want to fuck?

00:29:21.080 I'm saying if I've been eyeing him too

00:29:23.380 and he comes up to me like that, hell yeah.

00:29:25.220 But if he's just a weirdo coming up to me out of nowhere,

00:29:27.480 I'm going to be like, excuse me, what happened to hello?

00:29:30.700 What happened to, how are you?

00:29:31.880 How are you?

00:29:32.400 Honestly, I would say no.

00:29:35.720 I would say no.

00:29:36.640 But who goes up to someone like that?

00:29:38.920 When she's saying be direct, I think it's more like, hey, I think you're cute.

00:29:42.920 Would you like to hang out?

00:29:44.440 Boys, fuck boys, be like, oh, I kind of want to date you.

00:29:47.520 They make you think they want more than they do.

00:29:49.560 That's the problem.

00:29:50.300 Well, they kind of have to, though, if they want to get laid.

00:29:52.200 I think if they're direct in the way we're talking about, it's fine.

00:29:55.020 Honestly, for most guys, if they say, hey, just want to let you know,

00:29:58.760 I just want to fuck you a couple times and then never talk to you again

00:30:01.360 or fuck you once and never talk to you again, that's a wrap.

00:30:05.560 Like most girls are going to be like, nah.

00:30:09.820 I could be wrong.

00:30:10.900 I could be wrong.

00:30:12.020 But like I feel like a lot of girls, when they're talking to a guy,

00:30:17.560 and most girls are going to be angling for something more.

00:30:24.420 Not always because like guys like to have fun just like,

00:30:27.780 like females like to have fun just as much as guys, if not more, especially like,

00:30:31.860 and I know you can agree with this, but like if you're in the gym all the time,

00:30:35.140 your sex drive is through the roof.

00:30:36.740 But like if there's like, I don't know, personally for me,

00:30:40.320 like I'm not like a sleep around type.

00:30:42.140 I'm definitely down to flirt, like fool around if it happens.

00:30:45.140 But like, yeah, if a guy is just like comes like up to me,

00:30:47.800 he's like, oh, you want to fuck?

00:30:49.100 No.

00:30:49.960 But like if I see him at the bar, like we're making eye contact,

00:30:52.680 we're flirting, we're vibing, and it like goes somewhere that's different.

00:30:57.400 But yeah, if I'm at a party, like, hey, I think you're hot.

00:30:59.200 You want to like go back to my place?

00:31:00.880 Not really down with that.

00:31:02.540 But that's just me and like where I'm at now.

00:31:05.640 I think also it shouldn't be like, hey, do you want to have sex?

00:31:08.580 Like put a little sauce into it.

00:31:10.320 Like, you know.

00:31:10.820 Like a little flair.

00:31:12.340 Say it right.

00:31:13.060 Like put some extra words, some vocab, like something.

00:31:16.880 I don't know.

00:31:17.460 I think most guys experience, they have to put in like a bit of work

00:31:23.940 before they can get laid.

00:31:25.480 Then they're not doing it right.

00:31:26.840 That's okay.

00:31:28.940 Maybe if you guys are chasing after the top 10 or 20% of men,

00:31:32.680 which I think happens to be what's going on in the dating marketplace,

00:31:36.180 and you see this backed up by what's going on on Tinder,

00:31:38.980 basically the top 10 or 20% of men are getting all the women.

00:31:43.040 And then there's like, unless you're in that top 20%,

00:31:47.380 the rest of them are fighting for scraps.

00:31:50.700 I shouldn't say, not scraps, but like they're struggling on the dating apps.

00:31:54.900 I think in IV, it's, I'm trying to figure out how to word this.

00:32:01.580 I think like it's a different situation where it's like,

00:32:04.440 instead of just like being straight up like, hey, do you want to fuck?

00:32:06.700 Or instead of like, hey, I think you're really attracted.

00:32:08.660 Like what's your like number, Snapchat, whatever.

00:32:10.480 And then y'all can go like, go to Deja Vu, go to get some food,

00:32:13.680 like walk around a bit, like see where the night goes.

00:32:16.840 And then if you go back, that's different.

00:32:18.400 Because then it's like, there's a little something there

00:32:20.320 where it's not just straight up like.

00:32:22.300 Bro, a lot of girls aren't going to be down for first night even then.

00:32:26.120 Even if you take them out, you pay for their shit.

00:32:28.760 A lot of girls even then are not down for first night.

00:32:31.640 It has to, it depends on, yeah, it is a personal, I get that.

00:32:36.620 I feel like men assume that the girl's not going to be down for that.

00:32:39.980 But it's like every girl is different.

00:32:41.220 You don't know what you're going to get until you try.

00:32:43.720 Y'all got to try.

00:32:44.560 Yeah, but then see, guys are kind of in this damned if you do,

00:32:47.100 damned if you don't situation where

00:32:48.740 if they do try too soon,

00:32:51.540 then the girl's going to start thinking,

00:32:53.240 oh, he just wants to fuck.

00:32:54.820 Okay, this is, I've heard that from girls too.

00:32:58.520 I've heard girls say,

00:32:59.780 if a guy tries too soon to make a move,

00:33:02.000 it's kind of a turn on.

00:33:06.320 It's worse if the guy makes moves too slow.

00:33:10.220 It's definitely, if the guy doesn't make a move quick enough,

00:33:12.480 that's worse than making it too soon.

00:33:14.360 But it's still going to be viewed in that certain type of way.

00:33:18.740 I think it just really depends on the situation in which we meet.

00:33:23.560 Because if it's on Tinder, expect that I'm just trying to fuck.

00:33:26.820 No, even chicks on Tinder, though.

00:33:29.300 I guess it depends on the girl.

00:33:30.500 We'll make you wait.

00:33:31.740 Sorry, go ahead.

00:33:32.320 But I feel like you could read that based off of bios.

00:33:34.800 For certain people, men and women,

00:33:37.480 I'll be able to tell just from their bio

00:33:39.060 kind of what they're looking for.

00:33:40.400 If you're giving me three sentences of information about yourself,

00:33:44.400 you want to date.

00:33:45.220 You're not here to just fuck.

00:33:46.180 Because already I know more about you than I want to.

00:33:49.280 My bio is two words, or three, just for fun.

00:33:53.200 So obviously you can't get it right.

00:33:54.580 But then you know what you want.

00:33:55.460 Right from that bio, it's clear what you want.

00:33:59.100 So right from that bio, it's very clear.

00:34:01.740 You want this specific thing.

00:34:03.940 Whereas some people will have a whole ass bio.

00:34:07.480 And it's just like, okay, so do you want a relationship?

00:34:08.920 Or do you just want to fuck?

00:34:09.560 You have to, I don't know.

00:34:11.280 I feel like if you're just clear about it, it'd be like transparent.

00:34:14.400 I was like, that passed so many steps.

00:34:18.180 That's just me.

00:34:20.380 Did you want to come in on this?

00:34:21.780 Just be straight up.

00:34:22.780 Like, if you get rejected, you get rejected.

00:34:24.920 And that's that.

00:34:25.620 Like, I don't know what else to tell you.

00:34:28.740 Guys, for the most part, can't really be super straight up, I think.

00:34:34.540 They can't.

00:34:36.180 Y'all want the truth.

00:34:37.060 You can't handle the truth.

00:34:38.200 Because if a lot of guys were just straight up about their intentions, they wouldn't get laid.

00:34:45.500 I can see that, too, though.

00:34:46.240 And that's the problem.

00:34:47.980 It's just weird.

00:34:48.760 We have to be sneaky about it.

00:34:50.340 Like, I don't like that.

00:34:52.420 I know gay men don't have this problem.

00:34:54.960 Not from firsthand experience, but.

00:34:57.860 Okay.

00:34:59.700 Grinders have to pop off.

00:35:01.160 That's what I've heard.

00:35:02.000 It's very straightforward.

00:35:02.880 We have a choice.

00:35:03.620 But, you know, like, a lot of girls, at least in my experience, they don't really treat sex as a equal value exchange.

00:35:14.980 They want, like, they want something.

00:35:19.600 They want take me on a date.

00:35:23.780 You know, they want something first.

00:35:27.140 They don't want to just, okay, come over.

00:35:29.420 Let's hook up.

00:35:30.480 That's been my experience.

00:35:32.320 Don't get me wrong.

00:35:33.100 There's definitely been girls that it's been pretty quick.

00:35:36.380 But I'd say the vast majority of women, it's not going to be straight up like that.

00:35:41.220 I think a flirty conversation is the main thing.

00:35:44.340 Because I want to know that you're not, like, a weirdo or, like, a creep.

00:35:47.060 Like, I want to be able to, like, have somewhat of, like, a little bit of a vibe with you.

00:35:51.920 Like, I don't do the whole, like, random hookup thing.

00:35:55.520 But that way, if I, like, take you straight back to my house and you're, like, weird, it's just, like, okay, well, now get out, you know?

00:36:01.040 Or, like, what's my escape route?

00:36:02.420 You have to, like, just a little bit of a, like, tension vibe, like something.

00:36:07.960 Okay.

00:36:08.480 Yeah.

00:36:09.020 Anyways, we kind of derailed there a little bit.

00:36:10.640 Maybe we can come back to that.

00:36:12.300 So you were talking about fuckboys.

00:36:14.040 What is a fuckboy?

00:36:15.120 Oh, yeah.

00:36:15.620 Yeah, so just somebody who misleads you, makes you feel like you guys are going to be more than what you are, like, purposely tries to make you feel that way in order to just get a quick nut and then ghost you.

00:36:26.240 Or he'll just be an asshole for no reason.

00:36:30.480 And that's a fuckboy.

00:36:31.760 I want to go around the table on this.

00:36:33.240 What, how do you define fuckboy?

00:36:35.760 I mean, just, they only want to have sex.

00:36:39.020 And except for that, nothing else.

00:36:41.940 Yeah, basically, I think.

00:36:44.300 Yeah, he just wants to fuck.

00:36:45.620 Like, it's in the name.

00:36:47.560 Just wants to have sex.

00:36:48.500 He just wants to have sex.

00:36:49.380 Okay.

00:36:50.700 I think somebody who's for everybody.

00:36:53.780 Like, someone who just has no, is just literally for everybody and you just want to fuck.

00:37:01.780 And, yeah.

00:37:03.720 Yeah, just want to fuck around, play, play the field, have some fun.

00:37:07.900 Should fuckboys be shamed?

00:37:10.800 No.

00:37:12.240 If you're not hurting people in the process, if you're not hurting people in the process, then go ahead, have fun.

00:37:17.940 Like, live your life, because hot girl summer, hot boy summer.

00:37:20.960 But if you're hurting people's feelings in the process, I think you should take some time to do some self-evaluation.

00:37:25.380 I agree.

00:37:27.240 Like, yeah.

00:37:29.400 If you're just fucking having sex all the time and, like, it's okay with the girls, like, they understand that, cool.

00:37:35.580 But if you're going around being an asshole and just making all these girls feel like they're a girlfriend or something more, then no.

00:37:42.640 No thank you.

00:37:43.260 I feel like nine times out of ten, though, they do end up hurting somebody.

00:37:49.120 So, I think, in a sense, they should be ashamed.

00:37:51.880 Because, like, you're not, you know what the outcome is at the end of the day.

00:37:54.940 The girl's not going to be happy that you just fucked with her and then just, you know, dip.

00:37:58.800 So, I think they should be ashamed.

00:38:00.420 I kind of disagree on that one.

00:38:02.420 Do you guys know, just, you don't have to, we won't have to go around, but do you guys know any fuckboys?

00:38:07.140 I did.

00:38:08.020 Have you dated a fuckboy, hooked up with a fuckboy?

00:38:12.000 No.

00:38:12.360 No.

00:38:13.060 I don't think so.

00:38:14.340 Really?

00:38:14.760 I hope not.

00:38:15.300 It's too clear.

00:38:15.840 I don't know.

00:38:16.140 It's too clear.

00:38:18.420 Okay.

00:38:19.160 So, my question is, do you think that the terms fuckboy and slut are synonymous?

00:38:27.220 I do, personally.

00:38:28.200 Yeah, because slut is, like, I mean, there's, like, fuckboy and then, like, slut is, like, female.

00:38:33.460 Because, like, you don't, I don't know, because there's not fuckgirl, you know, I feel like.

00:38:37.900 Like, if you were to, like, oh, like, you're a fuckgirl, it's like, oh, she's a slut.

00:38:41.560 Which is stupid.

00:38:42.540 I'm not saying, like, call anybody that, but, like, I feel like that's, like, the female word for fuckboy.

00:38:49.680 I think slut should be gender neutral.

00:38:51.860 Agreed.

00:38:52.260 That would be fair.

00:38:52.800 But, like, that's what I feel like our word is.

00:38:56.820 Because, like, fuckboys, guys, and then, yeah.

00:39:01.120 Okay.

00:39:02.620 Okay.

00:39:03.220 But you hear a lot of discussion about, I mean, there's even a TV show called Fuckboy Island.

00:39:10.860 Is it Fboy Island?

00:39:12.280 Fuckboy Island?

00:39:13.020 I don't know.

00:39:13.380 But you'd never see a show called Slut Swamp coming to A&E or, like, Slut Savannah.

00:39:22.080 You'd never see that shit.

00:39:24.100 So, I guess my question is, is why is it okay in today's day?

00:39:28.560 Like, if you call a girl a slut as a guy, bro, watch out.

00:39:34.340 You're in trouble.

00:39:36.100 But I see women just throw fuckboy around willy-nilly.

00:39:40.760 Like, that's just an insult.

00:39:42.780 So, do you think there's a double standard there?

00:39:45.460 Yeah.

00:39:46.620 I do.

00:39:47.640 And I think because women have been being called sluts and all this for way, not for longer,

00:39:54.220 but, you know, I think it's been a thing that's just been going on more outwardly and everyone

00:39:59.400 just knows it happened.

00:40:00.300 So, now it's like, okay, we're putting a stop to this, but with, I think why people are more

00:40:04.620 comfortable doing it to men is because, like, you know, if we're being honest here, it hasn't

00:40:10.580 been the even, it hasn't been the same.

00:40:12.920 We've definitely went through a lot more things negatively, I think I would say, but I do think

00:40:21.040 it's a double standard.

00:40:21.680 I don't think it's fair.

00:40:22.340 Eric, can you turn the volume up to 70?

00:40:24.220 On the computer?

00:40:26.740 Okay.

00:40:27.360 Go ahead.

00:40:27.720 I think it is a double standard.

00:40:29.120 Wait, so hold on.

00:40:29.900 You said that, repeat it, you said that it's a justified double standard because women have

00:40:36.900 gone through a lot more things.

00:40:38.200 I never said it was justified.

00:40:39.840 I said...

00:40:40.540 Okay, but what was your piece?

00:40:41.980 The reason I think the double standard exists is because women have, like, I don't want to

00:40:48.940 say suffered, but, like, have suffered things from men.

00:40:53.500 From men?

00:40:54.220 From men.

00:40:54.640 Which men?

00:40:56.080 Men.

00:40:56.640 All men.

00:40:57.200 No, not all men.

00:40:58.000 Okay.

00:40:58.260 Some men.

00:40:58.700 But men as a collective.

00:40:59.720 Yes, in the past, even now.

00:41:01.080 In the past.

00:41:01.720 Even today.

00:41:02.040 More so in the past, yes.

00:41:03.460 Okay, sure.

00:41:04.180 So now it's like...

00:41:06.040 Erroneous!

00:41:07.680 Erroneous!

00:41:08.080 No, it's kind of true, though.

00:41:09.160 But, okay.

00:41:09.600 Yeah.

00:41:10.000 So I'm agreeing.

00:41:10.620 There is a double standard there.

00:41:12.560 Yeah, that's it.

00:41:13.980 Does anyone else want to come in on that?

00:41:16.400 I do.

00:41:17.260 I think that the double standard is definitely there, but, like you were saying, it's for

00:41:22.400 a reason that women have been slut-shamed for a lot less, for a lot more years versus, like,

00:41:28.520 men can have a lot of bodies.

00:41:29.620 And in a way, it's kind of within the culture.

00:41:32.000 I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I think there's a culture of, like, praising men

00:41:34.700 for that, especially, like, at a young age as well, which I think is a bit toxic in a

00:41:38.840 way.

00:41:40.680 And so, you know, I think it's only fair that we start slut-shaming men just as much as

00:41:45.300 we do women.

00:41:45.900 Like, if you guys still want to slut-shame us, that's fine.

00:41:47.820 Just expect to be called whores as well.

00:41:49.820 You know, it's going to happen to you.

00:41:51.660 Well, it's a bit different.

00:41:53.480 It's a bit different.

00:41:54.300 So I don't know how much we want to get into the body count discussion, but the difference

00:42:00.600 I would say is, is that it's very, for women, it's incredibly easy to get laid.

00:42:08.760 For men, that shit's hard.

00:42:11.820 For most men, it's tough.

00:42:16.280 Or if you even want to compare the average woman versus the average man, give me any woman

00:42:22.620 average, she can get laid that day.

00:42:27.500 You think the average man can do that?

00:42:30.600 I guess probably not.

00:42:33.900 Yeah.

00:42:34.320 That's a good point.

00:42:35.680 Okay.

00:42:36.480 But no, it's a lot harder for men.

00:42:44.160 I will say, I think as females, and again, like just what I'm thinking is females do, like

00:42:52.940 we are more emotionally open.

00:42:54.460 And I think we do tend to either catch feelings faster or want a connection sooner.

00:43:03.800 And so maybe that does have something to be like, like, oh, he's a whore because he didn't,

00:43:09.340 like I had feelings, he didn't have feelings back.

00:43:10.960 And so like now he's like a fuck boy, you know?

00:43:13.160 And so like, like you said about like women being able to get laid sooner, but like men

00:43:16.780 can't.

00:43:17.220 Well, maybe like it's because like women want that connection beforehand.

00:43:21.040 So like the men that are trying to shoot their shots and like you're trying to fuck like

00:43:24.580 that same day, like you said, they can't because like women kind of like want to have like

00:43:29.900 that connection beforehand.

00:43:32.380 But didn't, but didn't you just say that chicks just want to hook up?

00:43:37.040 Yeah, no, chicks, there are totally girls that just want to fuck around, fool around

00:43:40.800 totally.

00:43:41.500 30 minutes, they're ready to go.

00:43:43.140 Yeah, there's totally those chicks.

00:43:44.180 And then there's also totally those chicks that like be like, okay, well, like let, like

00:43:48.060 I want to like, I'm just trying to figure out the right word.

00:43:51.360 There's girls that like want to like have like that love or like that flirt or that like

00:43:54.840 something and like easily catch feelings.

00:43:56.760 Like I think it's valid to say that women catch feelings a lot faster than men.

00:44:00.100 So I feel like it's valid to be like, oh, well, like I caught feelings after a few

00:44:04.160 times, like he doesn't.

00:44:05.200 Well, now he's a whore.

00:44:06.780 Does that make sense?

00:44:07.820 Am I phrasing it right?

00:44:08.920 Okay, cool.

00:44:09.640 I think that's something I, so I feel like maybe that's why men get like the fuck boy

00:44:14.220 title a lot faster because it's like, okay, we were fucking, I caught feelings.

00:44:19.700 He's still out here fucking like the original plan was, well, now he's a whore because he

00:44:23.940 doesn't want me.

00:44:25.160 Does that make sense?

00:44:26.360 I feel like it does.

00:44:27.420 Okay.

00:44:28.000 In a way.

00:44:28.740 Yeah.

00:44:29.040 I don't, I don't think all, all women are very quick to like add the whore or the fuck

00:44:34.480 boy label if their feelings be hurt.

00:44:36.200 Definitely not.

00:44:37.260 But that's why I think it's just so important to make sure like your intentions are super

00:44:40.780 clear.

00:44:41.440 Like.

00:44:42.400 Yeah.

00:44:42.820 Total transparency.

00:44:43.860 Yeah.

00:44:44.140 Like it's like, I'm just, you're like, you're not a fuck?

00:44:45.620 Cool.

00:44:45.820 Me too.

00:44:46.780 Like straight as that.

00:44:47.960 But I do think it is common or just like women, at least more than men will catch feelings

00:44:52.980 faster in those types of situations.

00:44:55.040 I just feel like men are kind of easy.

00:45:01.220 You know, that's why it's, that's why women are able to like have more sex because the

00:45:06.540 opportunity is there.

00:45:07.780 Like there's, I could probably go out onto the street and I don't even think I'm that

00:45:11.980 cute, but I feel like it would not be hard for me to find somebody to bring back home versus

00:45:15.500 like, I feel like if you're a guy, a girls aren't just going to be easy like that for

00:45:20.140 you.

00:45:21.240 Well, I mean, if you're George Clooney, I feel like you're going to get something if you

00:45:24.560 walk out on the sidewalk, but for the average man, it's not going to happen.

00:45:27.600 He's like his social status.

00:45:29.500 He's a handsome guy.

00:45:30.860 Yeah.

00:45:31.100 Even at his age.

00:45:32.820 He's rich.

00:45:33.520 So an average guy, bro, he could, with concerted effort, it could take him weeks or months to

00:45:45.260 get, to get laid one time.

00:45:48.640 A lot of guys out like, I guess I could ask this.

00:45:52.680 What percentage of men do you guys think are like regularly hooking up?

00:45:59.420 Actually, let me rephrase the question.

00:46:01.280 Who do you think is having more sex, men or women?

00:46:05.880 Start here.

00:46:09.780 It really depends.

00:46:11.260 I have to say like, it's just a so general question, like men or women.

00:46:17.240 I mean, it just depends on what kind of men and what kind of women.

00:46:22.940 But generally speaking, who do you think is having more sex, men or women?

00:46:26.980 I think men.

00:46:28.380 You think men are having more sex?

00:46:29.900 Yeah.

00:46:30.100 Okay, we'll go around.

00:46:30.920 Go ahead.

00:46:31.280 I think women, to be honest.

00:46:33.840 Women are having more sex?

00:46:35.080 Yeah.

00:46:35.540 Sorry guys, we've got the motorcycle passing by.

00:46:37.940 I think men.

00:46:39.080 Men are having more sex, Sydney?

00:46:40.620 I kind of think men.

00:46:42.980 I think it used to be men, but now I could see it being women.

00:46:46.940 It's for sure women.

00:46:48.360 It's definitely women that are fucking more.

00:46:51.080 Because what you have happening with dating apps, social media, the dating marketplace is globalized, so y'all have some crazy options.

00:47:05.200 Because back in the day before social media came around, your pool of potential partners was in your city, your social circle.

00:47:13.780 Now you can swipe, there's 100 guys, there's 100 guys, there's 100 guys in your DM, even the average women will get fair amount of attention.

00:47:22.700 So, also they've done some studies on this.

00:47:27.240 Eric, actually, if you can pull up an infographic, we'll just pull it up super quick.

00:47:31.480 It's not pulled up, so you're going to have to bring it back to me, but you'll have to go into the folder.

00:47:39.660 Let me know when you're in the podcast folder.

00:47:42.740 It's in the infographics.

00:47:45.240 Let me know when you're there.

00:47:49.880 Sorry guys, hold on.

00:47:50.740 We're pulling up an infographic.

00:47:54.600 You're going to have to move that.

00:48:00.560 Move it over to the other screen, so you can see it.

00:48:03.000 Sorry guys, we're pulling this up.

00:48:06.080 Okay.

00:48:09.120 So, you're going to go into the podcast folder, the infographics folder.

00:48:15.380 There's nothing in the podcast.

00:48:17.080 Oh, I see.

00:48:21.040 Let me know when you're there.

00:48:22.380 Yeah.

00:48:23.440 Okay, so, it's men.

00:48:26.700 The title of it is Men Less Sex.

00:48:29.200 And pull it over to...

00:48:31.960 Oh, it's going to be hard to get it.

00:48:33.720 I don't know if we're going to be able to display it.

00:48:36.460 You're going to want to go out of F11, probably on the other screen.

00:48:39.840 Move it next to the Leonardo DiCaprio one.

00:48:45.520 Sorry guys, we are doing it live.

00:48:48.220 It's going to be pulled up here in just a sec, guys.

00:48:50.580 Let me know when you have it, Eric.

00:48:55.300 Just move it over and just bring it up.

00:48:56.900 Okay.

00:48:59.200 It's very hot.

00:49:05.080 Very hot.

00:49:05.800 It's been very hot, by the way, guys, in California.

00:49:08.700 Do you have it?

00:49:09.540 Yeah.

00:49:10.100 Okay, pull it.

00:49:15.840 Go F11, please.

00:49:17.280 All right.

00:49:20.460 Zoom out just a bit, or control mouse wheel.

00:49:23.640 Yeah.

00:49:24.160 Okay, so, up one more.

00:49:26.900 A little bigger.

00:49:28.200 There.

00:49:28.960 So, this is from the Washington Post.

00:49:30.700 This is from a couple years ago.

00:49:32.740 Young men driving the decline in sex.

00:49:34.840 Share of men and women between ages 18 and 30 reporting no sex in the past year.

00:49:39.020 Up until 2008, it was fairly even.

00:49:43.860 Maybe men were edging out.

00:49:45.980 No, actually, men even before then were reporting sexlessness.

00:49:49.480 So, this is between the ages of 18 and 30 that are either virgins or have had no sex in the past year.

00:49:58.900 28% of men, 18% of women, and this is 2018.

00:50:03.820 So, I'm assuming that gap has increased probably by at least 5 or 10 points.

00:50:10.580 So, men are hurting.

00:50:17.820 They're hurting.

00:50:18.920 You can bring it back, Eric.

00:50:20.600 You can bring it back.

00:50:21.740 So, basically, what you have happening is there's the few men, well, not the few men, but the proportion of men at the very top, the top 10, 20% of men, that are just running through chicks.

00:50:34.740 And then the rest are getting nothing.

00:50:36.960 And so, you got a lot of women out there that are Eskimo sisters that are just sleeping with the same guys.

00:50:43.760 Because you guys want the best guy, right?

00:50:47.700 We have standards.

00:50:48.460 Of course.

00:50:49.160 Yeah, women have standards.

00:50:50.060 Yeah.

00:50:51.360 Men are slacking in that regard.

00:50:55.560 So, yeah, a lot of men are just, it's tough for them.

00:50:59.080 They're not getting any.

00:51:00.700 So, rip.

00:51:02.020 Rip to the men.

00:51:03.120 Okay.

00:51:04.360 I want to do a couple super chats really quick.

00:51:06.960 And we'll get back to the show.

00:51:08.320 By the way, guys, don't forget to like the video.

00:51:10.420 And all super chats will be displayed in stream overlay.

00:51:13.420 $10 and up, guys.

00:51:15.660 Okay.

00:51:16.120 We got, let's see here.

00:51:18.360 Riley Brock with the $5 super chat.

00:51:20.220 Thank you, Riley.

00:51:21.860 They aren't searching for younger, just in general.

00:51:23.560 Younger women are more attractive, and they're going after what they're attracted to.

00:51:27.000 By the way, guys, just a reminder, $10 and up on the super chats.

00:51:30.020 Devon Jackson with the $10 super chat.

00:51:32.940 If a 6'4 Chad says it, then yeah, for the average guys, they just want him to be honest so they can disqualify him quicker.

00:51:40.960 So, this goes back to what we were talking about with the guys not really being able to be honest or up front with their intentions.

00:51:48.480 So, yeah, most guys can't be up front.

00:51:56.440 We got Elder Scrolls333.

00:51:59.040 Thank you for the $10 super chat.

00:52:00.060 Did we get one from Mike Davis?

00:52:01.840 I thought it was Mike.

00:52:03.480 Okay, I maybe mistook that I saw something from him.

00:52:07.320 Hey, Elder Scrolls, thank you for the $10 super chat, man.

00:52:09.520 Much appreciated.

00:52:10.660 Human female biology at an unconscious level tells women to disregard men lacking subtlety.

00:52:16.380 An example, if he approaches too directly, chances are poor for him, even if it's for a relationship, not just sex.

00:52:25.580 Do you guys want to respond to that?

00:52:27.280 Just be smooth with it.

00:52:28.680 That's all.

00:52:29.500 That's convenient.

00:52:30.560 Just be smooth.

00:52:31.220 I think being up front is hot, honestly.

00:52:35.420 If you're bold with it and you know what you want and you come up to me, I've done it.

00:52:40.260 But if you are just like, hey, I find you really attractive.

00:52:43.500 Can I get your number?

00:52:44.320 Let's go out sometime.

00:52:45.300 Your odds are so much better.

00:52:47.880 Confidence is key.

00:52:48.720 Confidence is key.

00:52:49.680 Confidence is key.

00:52:50.640 Yeah.

00:52:51.420 Okay.

00:52:52.600 Even if you're like, I don't know.

00:52:54.760 If you're not usually the average guy I'd go for, if that's how you shoot your shot,

00:52:57.980 I feel like your chances are much higher.

00:53:02.680 I will agree to an extent because there's a lot of times where a guy will approach me,

00:53:07.480 great job, asking me for my number and stuff, but I'm not going to reply.

00:53:11.160 At the end of the day, it's up to if the girl is feeling you back.

00:53:14.340 But still, shoot your shot.

00:53:16.860 You never know.

00:53:17.980 I would say you got like a 65% chance.

00:53:23.980 65 is a good statistic, I would say.

00:53:29.120 Me?

00:53:30.200 Thoughts?

00:53:31.660 On what?

00:53:32.800 On like the previous question?

00:53:36.560 Never mind.

00:53:37.740 Okay.

00:53:38.160 Okay, so we'll move on.

00:53:39.160 So you said just be, you said, what was it?

00:53:42.340 Be confident?

00:53:43.640 Just be confident.

00:53:44.580 Be smooth?

00:53:45.140 Yeah.

00:53:45.720 Okay.

00:53:46.320 Do you think it's easy for guys to be smooth?

00:53:48.680 No, but I think you can learn.

00:53:50.760 And I think getting rejected will help you because how you take rejection will really determine

00:53:57.020 like whether or not we leave with a good interaction.

00:54:00.300 Like if you could take the rejection well, I honestly will find you more attractive after

00:54:04.060 that because I feel like so many men can't hear and know without getting their feelings hurt.

00:54:07.920 That's a good point.

00:54:08.700 That's a good point.

00:54:09.540 There's definitely guys that when the girl rejects them, gets all salty about it.

00:54:13.500 Oh, you're ugly anyways.

00:54:15.480 You know, blah, blah, blah, this shit.

00:54:17.000 That's weird.

00:54:17.740 It is.

00:54:18.100 That's weird, guys.

00:54:18.720 Don't do that.

00:54:19.340 Like take it in stride.

00:54:20.540 But I will say that, I mean, if a girl rejects you, even if you take it in stride, it's probably

00:54:29.720 a wrap, I think.

00:54:31.960 Yeah, don't try after.

00:54:32.520 For the most part, like, yeah, it's pretty much a wrap.

00:54:34.380 Like, it's the likelihood that even if you do take it in stride, that she's going to

00:54:40.560 be like, oh, wow, he took that well.

00:54:42.820 Let me reconsider.

00:54:43.880 Although I do think there are some girls that are like, will be like, I don't know, have

00:54:49.540 any of you ever had a situation where you turned down a guy or you friendzoned him and he was

00:54:54.760 like, yeah, you know what?

00:54:56.000 I agree, we should be friends.

00:54:57.320 And you're like, hold on.

00:54:59.060 No.

00:54:59.720 They try to act like they initiated the not being more than friends.

00:55:03.540 No, but they, like, let's say you rejected a guy, but he just stopped pursuing you.

00:55:09.480 Were any of you ever like, he should have pursued me more?

00:55:13.080 I mean, if you just, like, if you have, like, feelings for him before, and maybe it's just,

00:55:23.640 like, one step away and he gave up, maybe you will think, like, oh, he just, he need

00:55:27.940 to do, like, one more step and then we'll just accept it.

00:55:30.620 But if you just don't have any feeling before and it's just, like, it's fine, you gave up

00:55:36.200 because we won't, like, work anything out even though you do, like, 99 steps.

00:55:41.760 Yeah.

00:55:44.020 Um, no, I wouldn't say that's happened to me, but, like, going back to, like, the whole

00:55:49.320 after a guy gets rejected, like, could there be more?

00:55:51.900 I think there could be if they take it well and if they're willing to, like, pursue a friendship

00:55:56.480 because I think, like, a lot of great relationships are built on friendship.

00:55:59.920 But if they take it horribly and, yeah, no, that's just not cutting it.

00:56:06.680 Yeah, I don't think I've ever been, like, oh, if they just kept trying.

00:56:10.480 Kind of because, like, if, if it were meant to be, like, or if he really wanted to really

00:56:17.040 press his issue, he would have.

00:56:18.580 So I'm like, okay, if he's not, then that's whatever.

00:56:22.540 Yeah, I'm not really kind of like that.

00:56:24.760 Like, it's like, if I'm not feeling it from the beginning, the odds of me, like, not feeling

00:56:29.520 it are going to continue.

00:56:31.440 Like, maybe, like, down the road a few months, maybe.

00:56:33.920 That's why, like, I feel like you always end it on a good note.

00:56:35.980 You know, I'd be like, okay, well, fuck you.

00:56:38.060 But, no.

00:56:41.420 I just feel like how it depends on how the interaction went.

00:56:44.840 Like, if I was, like, maybe, I'm just not looking for anything right now, then you could

00:56:48.860 try again at a later point.

00:56:50.060 But if it's, like, a flat out no, I'm not interested, I wouldn't try.

00:56:55.040 Rock and roll.

00:56:56.340 Okay.

00:56:57.100 So, you mentioned smooth.

00:57:00.040 The guy should just be smooth.

00:57:01.400 One of you mentioned just be confident, I think.

00:57:05.500 So, are any of you down to do a role reversal?

00:57:10.200 So, I'll be the chick, and one of you tries to pick me up as the dude.

00:57:16.400 I could do it.

00:57:18.640 Who, is any of you down?

00:57:20.660 Like, just.

00:57:21.140 Jackie, I know you're dying to do this.

00:57:22.540 I'm down.

00:57:22.880 Okay, we'll start with Jackie.

00:57:24.080 Jackie, um, okay.

00:57:27.140 Can you set the scene?

00:57:28.980 At a bar, can I set?

00:57:29.900 No, you're the man, you have to pick the scenario.

00:57:32.340 Okay, can you set the scene?

00:57:32.660 Oh.

00:57:33.380 No, like, where are we?

00:57:34.700 You're at a bar.

00:57:35.100 You get to pick.

00:57:35.920 You get to pick.

00:57:37.080 She's waiting for a drink at the bar.

00:57:39.160 You're welcome.

00:57:39.760 She's waiting for a drink at the bar.

00:57:41.000 Lovely red dress.

00:57:41.700 My name's Brianna, by the way.

00:57:42.720 Brianna.

00:57:43.360 Well, I guess I'll, oh, I should have.

00:57:44.360 No, I didn't even hear you.

00:57:46.540 Fuck, whatever.

00:57:47.160 Okay.

00:57:47.800 Ready?

00:57:48.800 No, no, no, no.

00:57:49.340 That's it?

00:57:49.800 We're at the bar?

00:57:50.460 Yeah.

00:57:50.920 At the bar.

00:57:51.280 What kind of music?

00:57:54.080 Like, okay, so it's like Wildcat backstage kind of situation.

00:57:58.040 It's like low-key empty.

00:57:59.420 Lights are dim.

00:58:00.460 Like, she's waiting for a drink.

00:58:02.020 Ready?

00:58:02.760 Oh, she's.

00:58:03.560 Go.

00:58:04.840 Hey, can I get you a drink?

00:58:07.260 Okay.

00:58:08.580 Okay, what do you want?

00:58:11.640 Sex in the city.

00:58:12.960 Sex in the city.

00:58:14.220 Can we get a sex in the city for the beautiful lady here?

00:58:17.600 Yes, of course.

00:58:18.460 Thank you.

00:58:19.480 So what's your name?

00:58:21.880 Brianna.

00:58:22.600 Brianna.

00:58:23.000 I'm Jackie.

00:58:24.080 It's so nice to meet you.

00:58:25.340 I was looking at you from over there, and I thought you were so beautiful with those blue eyes.

00:58:30.380 Thanks.

00:58:31.060 You're welcome.

00:58:32.940 Here goes your drink.

00:58:35.060 Oh.

00:58:35.580 The drink.

00:58:36.520 Thank you.

00:58:37.860 So what are you doing later tonight?

00:58:39.660 Are you going to be here, or?

00:58:41.700 Just with my girls.

00:58:43.060 With your girls.

00:58:44.280 Okay.

00:58:44.820 Are they on the dance floor, or what's up?

00:58:47.020 Oh, you know, we're just getting turnt.

00:58:48.740 Getting turnt.

00:58:49.480 Okay.

00:58:50.040 Well, I'm with my guys.

00:58:51.420 Maybe we could hang out a little bit, dance together on the dance floor, but if you're

00:58:55.700 not doing anything later, I would love to get your number.

00:58:58.580 I don't know if I'm comfortable with that.

00:59:00.520 I just met you.

00:59:01.640 That's okay.

00:59:02.440 I understand.

00:59:02.720 You can have my Instagram, though.

00:59:04.120 Okay, sure.

00:59:05.160 Here, follow me.

00:59:08.140 Okay, well, it was great meeting you.

00:59:09.680 I hope I run into you later.

00:59:12.840 Bye.

00:59:13.540 Have a good night.

00:59:16.880 Hey, if you weren't feeling it, you weren't feeling it, and I'm going to leave the situation.

00:59:20.000 Enjoy your drink.

00:59:21.280 Hey, that's good.

00:59:22.060 No, I mean, that's good, though.

00:59:23.980 It's, you didn't push it.

00:59:26.000 That was effective.

00:59:26.680 Yeah, no.

00:59:27.080 You were a little easy, quick to take that drink.

00:59:30.340 Yes.

00:59:31.280 Is that a real good one?

00:59:31.920 Absolutely.

00:59:32.620 And you gave the Instagram.

00:59:34.760 That was cheating.

00:59:35.620 You've been through this before.

00:59:37.880 I thought of you just like, you can follow me, though.

00:59:41.840 Okay, who, does anybody else want to try?

00:59:45.580 I'm not going to lie.

00:59:46.700 How about Sydney?

00:59:47.240 Yeah, I love you.

00:59:47.820 Sydney, because you've talked about how you initiate with guys, allegedly.

00:59:52.700 Yeah, I do.

00:59:53.520 Allegedly.

00:59:54.180 It's fun.

00:59:54.260 And I've done it.

00:59:56.220 It's worked out for me in the past.

00:59:57.140 How have you initiated with a guy before?

01:00:01.680 Like, articulate specifically what you did.

01:00:04.500 Oh, he's probably watching this, too, which is interesting.

01:00:08.500 So, okay, so essentially, I, so I go to the gym a lot, and I, I'm in there daily.

01:00:15.840 I've never seen this man before.

01:00:17.460 He walks in, immediately, like, turns my head.

01:00:20.640 You're at the gym, you can't, like, say anything to the guy.

01:00:22.600 So, I was like, oh, like, okay, that sucks, whatever, I gotta go.

01:00:26.740 So, I left.

01:00:27.360 I was, like, never gonna see him again.

01:00:29.140 I go to Rockfire, and I'm, like, with my girl, and we're leaving early, and I see him

01:00:34.200 in line.

01:00:35.380 He was really good looking, and I was like, crap, like, okay, I have to.

01:00:37.980 And I'm, like, shaking a little bit, but I, like, went up to him, and he's with some

01:00:40.780 of his guy friends.

01:00:41.540 And I was like, hey, I think you're really handsome.

01:00:44.020 Like, saw you at the gym today.

01:00:45.180 Like, didn't want to ask for it there.

01:00:46.360 Like, can I, like, get your number, take you out for drinks sometime?

01:00:49.140 Put my number in his phone, like, got his name, shook his hand, left.

01:00:53.360 I never heard from him until, like, maybe three weeks later.

01:00:57.160 I went to backstage, and we went out with my girls, and, like, he was there, and...

01:01:03.240 Wait, you didn't hear from him then?

01:01:04.760 I didn't hear from him at all.

01:01:05.600 He was just there.

01:01:06.440 He was just there backstage.

01:01:07.480 And then we ended up leaving, and something kind of, like, went down with my girl.

01:01:14.000 Well, my girl was there, and I was gone.

01:01:15.560 And so he texted me then.

01:01:16.740 He was like, hey, like, your girl might need some help.

01:01:19.640 And so I went back, and then we, like, text a little bit later that night.

01:01:23.700 He's like, so when are we going to hang?

01:01:24.760 I was like, oh, yeah, I'll let you know.

01:01:26.160 And then my dumbass never responded, like, back.

01:01:28.680 So, like, he kind of, like, initiated hanging out again, and I never responded because I realized that we, like, worked together.

01:01:37.400 So I didn't want to mix the whole, like, work, romance situation.

01:01:44.340 Sorry, guys.

01:01:45.300 Motorcycle.

01:01:47.460 Wow.

01:01:48.080 Yeah, but...

01:01:48.800 And so that was your one pickup.

01:01:50.760 That was, like, one of mine, and then I kind of, like...

01:01:52.760 That sounds like a failure.

01:01:54.100 Actually, it's not low-key.

01:01:55.480 Absolute failure.

01:01:55.700 Well, because, like, I kind of, like...

01:01:56.520 Oh, you guys smashed?

01:01:57.220 I kind of bit the bullet again, and I was like, hey.

01:01:59.480 Like, I, like, texted him, like, a few weeks later.

01:02:01.000 I was like, hey, I know we work together, but, like, I would still like to take you out for drinks sometime if you're down.

01:02:06.700 Ashley Bell says, Sydney got game.

01:02:09.160 I can feel it.

01:02:10.760 Thanks.

01:02:11.320 I could see that.

01:02:12.420 I could see that, but why don't we try?

01:02:13.620 It worked out.

01:02:14.380 I mean, we've been texting a little bit, but I don't know if it's, like...

01:02:17.500 It's just texting, you know?

01:02:18.960 By the way, guys, can you hear Sydney?

01:02:22.120 What about?

01:02:22.800 I don't know.

01:02:23.080 The microphone might be.

01:02:24.600 Yeah.

01:02:25.380 Okay, so...

01:02:26.220 All right, Sydney, paint the scenario.

01:02:30.140 You can be DMing me.

01:02:31.200 You could be a Trader Joe's.

01:02:32.420 Jackie, give me a scene.

01:02:34.080 You guys are at the gym.

01:02:35.760 Oh, you can't.

01:02:36.580 Okay.

01:02:37.220 You guys are at the gym.

01:02:38.220 Ooh, that's going to be rough for her.

01:02:38.960 You can't do that.

01:02:39.900 Come on.

01:02:40.180 You know you can't do that.

01:02:41.080 At the gym?

01:02:41.640 You can't pick people up at the gym.

01:02:44.040 Yes, you can.

01:02:44.800 Yes, you can.

01:02:45.340 You're on campus together.

01:02:45.680 Yes, you can.

01:02:47.000 I love that.

01:02:47.900 I don't want to the gym.

01:02:48.460 Fine.

01:02:48.740 Okay, how about this?

01:02:49.500 You guys are on campus.

01:02:50.620 You're walking to class, and you spot Brianna.

01:02:53.800 Brianna.

01:02:54.120 And you have time to spare.

01:02:56.380 You're early.

01:02:57.160 You have 30 minutes until class starts.

01:02:59.040 What's up, Brianna?

01:03:00.320 Okay.

01:03:01.760 Okay.

01:03:03.080 I just walk up behind you.

01:03:04.300 Okay.

01:03:05.140 Hey.

01:03:06.800 Which way are you headed?

01:03:08.200 Huh?

01:03:08.920 Hi, I'm Sidney.

01:03:09.920 Or I'm Mark.

01:03:12.200 What's your name?

01:03:13.840 Brianna.

01:03:14.300 Are you headed to East Campus?

01:03:18.560 What?

01:03:19.560 Yeah, what?

01:03:20.600 Why?

01:03:21.080 Well, I'm headed that way, too.

01:03:22.480 And I just, like, I saw you a little bit away.

01:03:24.480 And I was wondering if you'd like to, like, get coffee before class or maybe after.

01:03:27.780 I'm kind of in a rush.

01:03:28.860 I got to go to class.

01:03:29.820 Okay, great.

01:03:30.240 No worries.

01:03:30.780 Maybe I could just give you my number.

01:03:32.080 Text me if you're free afterwards.

01:03:33.520 Coffee on me.

01:03:34.240 Here's my Instagram.

01:03:35.660 Brianna Bangs Lot 69.

01:03:37.500 Okay, great.

01:03:38.200 Yeah, just follow me.

01:03:39.060 Yeah, will do.

01:03:39.560 Text me if you're interested.

01:03:40.820 Okay.

01:03:41.440 All right.

01:03:41.740 Have a good one.

01:03:42.300 Hope you have a good day.

01:03:43.100 Okay, bye.

01:03:43.560 Bye.

01:03:45.500 See, you were a little shut down, but, like.

01:03:47.780 Bro, that's how it is, though.

01:03:49.700 That's how it is.

01:03:50.520 If they're not interested, yes.

01:03:52.500 But, like, sometimes you get those type of girls, and you can't pursue forever.

01:03:57.000 But, like, I mean, it's a free coffee.

01:03:59.020 Most of these Cali girls don't turn down a free coffee, I've learned.

01:04:03.340 Okay.

01:04:06.480 Did you want to do it?

01:04:07.940 I did.

01:04:08.580 I feel like I poll women, so I feel like I should be good at this.

01:04:12.600 Bye.

01:04:12.900 She's bye.

01:04:13.400 Bye.

01:04:14.280 All right.

01:04:16.160 Set the scene.

01:04:16.820 What is it?

01:04:17.380 We could be literally anywhere.

01:04:19.740 So, we'll be at 7-Eleven for convenience.

01:04:23.440 Pumping gas?

01:04:24.780 Hey, girl.

01:04:25.500 How you doing?

01:04:26.280 Oh, no.

01:04:26.800 I really like that shirt on you.

01:04:28.500 It really brings out your eyes.

01:04:29.760 You know, the blue in them?

01:04:30.880 Oh, thank you.

01:04:31.720 I should be careful.

01:04:32.680 Don't want to get lost.

01:04:33.940 You know, in them.

01:04:35.100 Huh?

01:04:35.920 Right?

01:04:37.040 Anyways, you know, since we're out here at the beach town or whatever, I was looking for

01:04:40.460 somebody to come with.

01:04:41.940 It's hot outside.

01:04:43.840 I bet you'd look good in a bikini.

01:04:48.780 Excuse me?

01:04:49.740 Yeah.

01:04:50.640 You think I'd?

01:04:51.600 I do think you'd look great in a bikini.

01:04:53.560 All bodies are beautiful.

01:04:55.100 I'm all about it.

01:04:56.940 Um, are you down to pay for my gas?

01:05:01.120 Look, bestie.

01:05:02.780 I'm not here for no sugar daddy shit.

01:05:04.820 Dusty.

01:05:06.440 You said bestie.

01:05:07.540 We're cool like that.

01:05:08.040 Oh, I thought you said dusty.

01:05:09.800 No, but I'll get you an 805.

01:05:12.620 Okay.

01:05:13.900 All right.

01:05:14.420 Let's go then.

01:05:16.800 And we go.

01:05:18.300 He said, okay.

01:05:19.280 She said, okay.

01:05:19.600 I don't even know your name, Brianna.

01:05:20.860 That was ballsy.

01:05:23.040 I low-key feel like I'd also get like murdered a little bit if I went with you, but that was

01:05:28.400 ballsy.

01:05:31.640 What?

01:05:32.140 Okay.

01:05:32.320 I want to open it up to the girls.

01:05:33.480 What do the girls think of the girls pick up?

01:05:37.740 Um, I think for, did they do a good job?

01:05:40.080 I mean, like for Jackie and, um, Sydney, if a guy like come up with, you know, like just

01:05:47.420 talk to me like that, it's just, it's comfortable.

01:05:51.360 Like it's, it's okay.

01:05:53.500 And I won't, you know, it's just reasonable.

01:05:57.200 Cause once you show you're not interested, they're like, oh, I'm out.

01:06:02.320 Have a good time.

01:06:03.620 And for Claudia, Claudia.

01:06:07.560 Yeah.

01:06:08.300 It's also fine, but maybe I'm just gonna get a little panic with all those, you know,

01:06:14.140 compliments and stuff.

01:06:15.420 I'm like, okay, I just met this guy.

01:06:17.460 Why he complimented me like, like that at the gas station.

01:06:20.380 Yeah.

01:06:21.360 I probably think he's a little weird, but it's all like totally fine.

01:06:25.860 But if I'm probably, it's because like you're a girl, but if a man like talk to me, like

01:06:31.120 with all those gestures and like, uh, you know, I just scared, scares me kind of.

01:06:37.420 So keep it simple.

01:06:38.460 Yeah.

01:06:38.660 Keep it simple.

01:06:39.480 Yeah.

01:06:39.820 Yeah.

01:06:40.300 All right.

01:06:40.740 We have a comment here from Junior Soprano.

01:06:42.840 Junior Soprano, the boss of the DeMeo crime family in New Jersey.

01:06:46.820 These girls never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

01:06:50.300 Girls response.

01:06:52.300 Never had the.

01:06:54.060 What does that even mean?

01:06:54.920 Yeah.

01:06:55.200 What are the makings?

01:06:56.340 Do you have a response to Mr. Soprano?

01:06:59.980 I mean, like as far as like athlete wise, like Jackie mentioned that she does training.

01:07:06.160 I used to bodybuild.

01:07:07.520 I did track.

01:07:08.600 Yeah.

01:07:08.940 I played basketball and ran track.

01:07:10.660 Yeah.

01:07:11.520 Okay.

01:07:12.020 There you go.

01:07:12.560 Uh, American network against labor place to all labor matter.

01:07:15.300 There you go.

01:07:16.300 Uh, we have a Steven Stifler here in the chat.

01:07:18.860 Uh, ask the ladies to rate themselves on a scale of one to 10.

01:07:23.020 That's brutal.

01:07:24.000 Okay.

01:07:24.340 Let's do that.

01:07:25.520 I will rate myself 5.5 out of 10.

01:07:31.160 Yeah.

01:07:31.440 5.5.

01:07:32.220 Yeah.

01:07:32.520 Okay.

01:07:33.920 Is this overall or just like physically looks?

01:07:36.780 Oh, okay.

01:07:37.200 Hmm.

01:07:39.260 I think I'm a smooth nine.

01:07:42.560 Let's move the nine.

01:07:44.520 Mm-hmm.

01:07:46.220 Okay.

01:07:47.500 8.

01:07:49.180 10.

01:07:50.400 Bruv.

01:07:51.380 It'd be 8 as well.

01:07:53.080 Okay.

01:07:54.400 Don't go.

01:07:55.060 Kiki, you're a 10.

01:07:57.160 No, I've just.

01:07:58.080 You're Kiki.

01:07:59.560 You're Kara.

01:08:00.620 Kara.

01:08:00.860 Kara.

01:08:01.360 Yeah, I'm Kara.

01:08:02.160 Yeah, definitely not.

01:08:03.100 Yeah.

01:08:05.140 Kiki's the only 10 here.

01:08:06.740 No offense, Sydney.

01:08:07.980 None taken.

01:08:08.820 No offense, Sydney, but Kiki's the only one that can claim 10.

01:08:12.600 Okay, fair enough.

01:08:13.640 Why, why are you.

01:08:14.860 I know, Sydney, we've gone over this before.

01:08:16.380 Don't do it again, man.

01:08:17.520 Why are you a 10?

01:08:19.940 Because like, it's just, it's like for me, like I, in my confidence, like obviously there's

01:08:25.680 these days where I'm not like that, but like that's, that's like my opinion.

01:08:29.440 Like no one else needs an opinion or needs to rate me.

01:08:31.380 So like, why would I like be like, oh, I'm an 8 and then give somebody else the opportunity

01:08:36.180 to be like, no, she's actually like a 6.

01:08:38.720 Like, I'm going to just say I'm a 10, I'm going to leave it at that.

01:08:41.440 Obviously comments can say shit, but like, there's no need.

01:08:46.900 Okay.

01:08:48.600 So, I'm not going to go into the 10th.

01:08:50.800 Okay.

01:08:51.740 I'm not going to go into it.

01:08:52.780 Um, well, thank you, Steven Stifler for that insightful question for the panel.

01:08:59.240 Uh, let's see.

01:09:00.340 Okay.

01:09:00.620 So we were talking about Leonardo DiCaprio.

01:09:03.320 I kind of want to bring it back there.

01:09:04.940 Um, just for people who are tuning in, Eric, if you can just pull up that infographic one

01:09:09.860 more time.

01:09:10.360 Thank you, sir.

01:09:11.480 So if you're just tuning in, we were talking a bit about Leonardo DiCaprio.

01:09:14.240 If you don't know, a couple, I think the past week he broke up with his most recent girlfriend.

01:09:19.500 This is an infographic showing his age and then the age of his, uh, partners over time.

01:09:26.400 Uh, just broke up with Camila.

01:09:28.560 So I want to bring it back to the age gap discussion for a little bit here.

01:09:32.640 So it seemed like there was a bit of pushback on age gaps and specifically with men dating

01:09:44.160 younger women.

01:09:45.800 So why do you guys think it's like wrong or why do you take issue with like an older guy

01:09:53.980 dating a younger woman?

01:09:57.480 And Eric, you can bring it on back.

01:10:00.140 We'll start with you.

01:10:01.060 I'm sorry.

01:10:03.160 I didn't hear the question.

01:10:04.740 I'm sorry.

01:10:05.140 I was wondering.

01:10:06.660 What?

01:10:07.480 Um, so.

01:10:10.280 Sorry, my brain blinks a lot.

01:10:12.480 It's fine.

01:10:12.720 I just bring, blink.

01:10:13.960 No, don't worry about it.

01:10:14.420 Yeah.

01:10:14.980 Uh, so do you take, like, why do you, I don't know if it might not have even been you, but

01:10:20.160 why do you take issue with, uh, age gaps?

01:10:25.080 Have we like, I think we talked about this topic before.

01:10:28.220 Did, did we go into why though?

01:10:31.060 Briefly, but not in depth.

01:10:34.460 Okay.

01:10:35.380 Okay.

01:10:35.680 I think I personally don't have an issue with older women dating younger men or older men

01:10:43.520 dating younger women.

01:10:44.280 It was the Leonardo, Leonardo DiCaprio situation in particular where it was become, where it

01:10:49.460 was becoming a trend that I, that's why I said it was weird.

01:10:51.820 Not because he was a man that was older instead of a woman.

01:10:54.500 But, um, yeah, I think it's just the fact that he was doing it over and over and over again.

01:10:59.720 That's what made it weird.

01:11:00.520 I think the trend is slightly odd.

01:11:04.040 The only, I don't really have an issue with it.

01:11:07.240 Like, the whole, like, Nick and Priyanka thing, like, they're 10 years apart, they're happy.

01:11:10.700 My only, like, slight issue is kind of, like, where it comes to, like, a comment that, like,

01:11:15.740 you know, Andrew Tate made about, like, oh, I like them young, I like them untouched.

01:11:18.640 When it comes to, like, like, right out of high school or slightly young or, like, slightly

01:11:22.540 where it's, like, almost, like, grooming, then that's where it's an issue.

01:11:27.140 But if they're, like, genuinely happy and they're on the same page, whatever floats your boat.

01:11:33.320 The issue I have with older men and women, not just men, dating younger people is that,

01:11:39.400 I feel, and it's a pattern, like, it's not just, like, a one-time thing, like, they're

01:11:42.220 constantly searching for someone younger, is that it seems like, let me be careful here.

01:11:47.940 I've seen people say that a lot of older people will look for younger people because they

01:11:52.880 are more, like, naive in the dating world and they don't understand a lot of, like, the

01:11:57.080 games that are played.

01:11:58.020 So that's my issue, I feel like, but, yeah, I'm just going to leave it at that.

01:12:05.300 I'm taking advantage of.

01:12:09.620 So you think it's a, like, a predatory thing or what?

01:12:14.420 I wouldn't go as far as calling it predatory.

01:12:19.460 I mean, not for every single person.

01:12:20.760 There are some, of course, but I would say, like, the older people can be maybe a bit lazy

01:12:27.200 when it comes to dating because they don't want to put in the work, the effort that it

01:12:30.760 would take to charm someone their age who is more seasoned in the dating game.

01:12:36.840 They know, like, okay, like, I know what you're doing, all that type of stuff.

01:12:40.300 Whereas a younger person who hasn't dated as many people, hasn't been with as many

01:12:44.080 people, they are still learning.

01:12:46.680 Like, there's a lot of growth that needs to happen.

01:12:49.200 That should happen.

01:12:50.080 That can't happen.

01:12:50.660 But could you make the argument that, let's say, let's say if we compare men aged 21 and

01:12:58.080 women who are 21, couldn't you make the argument that by the time both people are that age,

01:13:06.520 that actually women have gotten much more experience when it comes to dealing with the

01:13:11.760 opposite sex than have men?

01:13:15.040 I think it's definitely dependent on the circumstances.

01:13:17.820 I wouldn't say that.

01:13:18.600 I mean, I would say women probably have been approached more and have had more suitors.

01:13:22.900 That's what I mean.

01:13:23.600 Like, so a woman who's 21 has, by the time she's 21, has probably been bombarded, like

01:13:30.500 DMs, dating apps, guys approaching her in the street.

01:13:34.400 So you could actually make the argument that younger women at an earlier age become much

01:13:40.000 more savvy as to the social maneuvering that's involved with dating.

01:13:46.280 Because y'all deal with more men than do men deal with women for the most part.

01:13:52.800 I would agree.

01:13:53.660 Yeah, I know.

01:13:54.060 I would agree with that.

01:13:54.800 But I feel like when it comes to older people seeking relationships with these people, and

01:14:01.120 this is in the case that the younger people agree.

01:14:03.060 I just think it's a bit odd that they're doing that.

01:14:08.240 Because yes, women have been approached by men more, but as far as like going into a full

01:14:13.920 on relationship, that's where it varies, I would say.

01:14:17.240 I think it kind of ties into the jokes.

01:14:18.940 Like in high school, like, oh, the senior got with the freshman girl, you know?

01:14:22.440 Okay, I mean, that's a bit, those are like underage relationships.

01:14:29.420 Right, but just like the jokes about like the freshman girl thinking that like he's all

01:14:34.300 that, and then like he's just like playing games.

01:14:37.920 Like it's just those type of like, those like little jokes, like it's type of shit like that.

01:14:41.900 I mean, just on the topic of it being kind of predatory, I mean, couldn't you also make

01:14:46.900 the argument that Leonardo DiCaprio is so high status, so financially well off, that couldn't

01:14:55.980 it be said that it might actually be predatory of women to be going after him?

01:15:02.020 Because if they associate with Leonardo DiCaprio, what do they have to gain from it?

01:15:08.140 Yeah, it absolutely could be.

01:15:09.340 They could potentially get jobs from that, status, they're going to be in the tabloids,

01:15:15.720 she's probably going to rack up a bunch of social media followers, so it could be predatory

01:15:22.060 in the reverse.

01:15:23.860 And we don't know both sides, you know?

01:15:25.320 We're just only looking at the one side of like only 25-year-olds.

01:15:30.420 Like no doubt there's clout chasers out there who are just going after like men with money,

01:15:34.680 women with money, whoever, but I don't know.

01:15:38.340 It's sticky.

01:15:39.680 Wait, but you said going after women with money, do you think that there are men that

01:15:44.420 are...

01:15:44.720 Definitely, definitely.

01:15:46.360 Clout chasing women?

01:15:47.060 Sugar mamas.

01:15:48.560 There's no, come on, sugar mamas?

01:15:50.540 Yes.

01:15:51.480 You're saying there's none?

01:15:52.540 I'm not saying that there's none, but it's so exceedingly rare compared to sugar daddies.

01:15:59.180 Yeah, the percentage is probably a lot lower.

01:16:00.800 It's probably like 99 sugar daddies for one sugar mama.

01:16:06.400 That's a reach.

01:16:07.120 It's 99.

01:16:07.960 It's rough.

01:16:08.780 It's because when women get older, our attraction to younger men starts to fade.

01:16:15.000 So we are more relative in terms of who we find attractive in age.

01:16:19.100 So I think that's where it gets weird because it's like, for me, I'm like, if you're a guy

01:16:23.860 who's consistently dating girls who are like 25 and younger, I kind of feel like, you know,

01:16:29.060 you couldn't fall in love with a woman just because she was 30.

01:16:31.420 Like, the love of your life comes up to you.

01:16:33.280 She's like the most beautiful woman ever in your eyes.

01:16:35.480 Everything is perfect except for her age.

01:16:37.300 She's 30.

01:16:37.960 Like, you're going to tell me Leo's really not about to date her.

01:16:40.280 And from what we've seen, like, that seems to be the case.

01:16:43.200 And I'm sure he has plenty of, like, fine women over 25 throwing themselves at him.

01:16:46.960 Sofia Vergara, you're going to tell her no?

01:16:49.440 I wouldn't.

01:16:51.200 Maybe he doesn't.

01:16:53.200 Sofia, is she an actress?

01:16:55.260 She was in Modern Family.

01:16:58.520 She's so beautiful.

01:17:01.300 Who the fuck is that guy?

01:17:03.440 Sofia Vergara.

01:17:03.880 Dude, you're missing out.

01:17:05.060 She's fine.

01:17:06.620 I'll take your word for it.

01:17:07.640 She's beautiful.

01:17:08.300 So she's older, though.

01:17:09.700 Yeah, she's older now.

01:17:11.280 Okay.

01:17:11.820 As time works.

01:17:12.780 I mean, maybe it's like a body count thing.

01:17:14.840 Maybe he wants to date younger women because they have a lower body count.

01:17:17.580 But that's weird.

01:17:18.480 Like, are you judging your own body count?

01:17:20.740 Because on that, he's had so many bodies as well.

01:17:22.500 Oh, he's probably.

01:17:24.700 Ran through them.

01:17:25.400 So long as they're, like, clean.

01:17:26.960 For sure, triple digits on Leo.

01:17:28.940 I wonder if Leo's a thousand, like, quad digits.

01:17:34.120 No.

01:17:34.640 Could be.

01:17:35.260 He's been.

01:17:36.320 No offense, but damn.

01:17:37.700 I know.

01:17:38.540 That's wild.

01:17:40.120 That's what I'm saying.

01:17:40.900 They're slits.

01:17:41.980 To each their own.

01:17:43.660 But, I mean, it's not like women his age would be any more likely to love him for him instead of his wealth and status than a younger woman.

01:17:54.520 His wealth and status comes with it regardless.

01:17:57.120 That's true.

01:17:57.520 So whether he's dating, like, 20-year-olds or he's dating 40-year-olds, like, his status isn't going anywhere.

01:18:04.640 So he can pull just about anyone he wants to if it's going in this range.

01:18:10.420 Okay?

01:18:10.940 But, like, his status doesn't go anywhere.

01:18:12.520 And it's not like it's a secret.

01:18:13.500 Like, everybody knows his status.

01:18:15.080 Like, everybody's seen his movies.

01:18:16.420 You can't escape that.

01:18:17.780 Right.

01:18:18.120 I guess my whole thing with the Leo thing is, one, maybe it's just his preference to date younger women.

01:18:26.240 I've seen, like, a lot of articles calling him weird, creep, predator, just people talking about it online.

01:18:32.120 And I feel like these news organizations that are reporting on the breakup and, you know, kind of alluding to him being, you know, creep or whatever it is.

01:18:43.700 And I highly doubt that they would run these same articles if it was an older actress dating, like, a young guy.

01:18:52.260 And you brought up Priyanka, right?

01:18:54.200 Mm-hmm.

01:18:54.580 The example.

01:18:55.300 They're 10 years apart.

01:18:56.560 I have a few examples I wanted to bring up here.

01:19:00.300 So, I'm going to give you guys a couple examples here.

01:19:06.440 And you can, if you want, you can react.

01:19:08.360 So, Demi Moore was 41 when she, or Demi Moore was 41 and she was dating Ashton Kutcher.

01:19:15.020 He was 25.

01:19:16.000 That's a 16-year age gap.

01:19:20.120 Britney Spears is 40, married to a 28-year-old.

01:19:24.220 But she met him six years ago.

01:19:25.760 So, when they met, she was 34 and he was 22.

01:19:28.540 12-year age gap.

01:19:30.300 Olivia Wilde, 38, dating Harry Styles, who's 28, 10-year age gap.

01:19:35.100 Priyanka Chopra, Nick Jonas, 10-year.

01:19:37.080 That's all women that are older?

01:19:38.740 These are women who are older.

01:19:40.220 Lisa Bonet and Jason Momoa, 12-year age gap, 38 versus 26.

01:19:45.620 Miranda Kerr and Evan Spiegel, 32 versus 25.

01:19:49.720 Kim Kardashian and Pete Davidson, 41 to his 28.

01:19:56.240 So, I don't know.

01:19:57.620 I can't imagine, like, I've never seen any articles coming out about how, oh, Kim K, Pete Davidson.

01:20:07.000 Probably the biggest one is the Britney Spears one.

01:20:09.700 She was 34 and he was 22.

01:20:11.240 I think that's probably, like...

01:20:12.340 It's a little odd.

01:20:13.100 And then, Demi Moore, 41, Ashton Kutcher, 25.

01:20:17.260 So, I don't know.

01:20:18.860 You'd never see these articles written about, like, shaming them.

01:20:23.880 The uproar.

01:20:25.600 Go ahead.

01:20:26.320 Brian, could I ask you guys a question?

01:20:27.700 Sure.

01:20:27.880 Have you ever been with someone who's older, like a significant age gap?

01:20:30.280 That's a good question.

01:20:31.480 I have.

01:20:32.160 No.

01:20:32.820 I have.

01:20:33.780 Yeah.

01:20:34.020 So, we'll go around the table you have.

01:20:36.520 What's the oldest guy you've dated or sugar daddy situation?

01:20:40.540 No.

01:20:41.200 I...

01:20:41.760 He was my...

01:20:44.020 Basically, like, my first boyfriend.

01:20:46.420 And I...

01:20:47.080 Yeah.

01:20:48.020 He was, I think, seven or eight years old, older than me.

01:20:53.720 How old were you?

01:20:54.700 I was 17.

01:20:57.080 And now I'm 18.

01:20:58.240 So, like, basically a year ago when I first got here.

01:21:01.580 Yeah.

01:21:01.780 And so, okay, and he was 25?

01:21:05.200 Around 25.

01:21:06.280 24, 25, something.

01:21:07.780 Yeah.

01:21:07.920 Wait, this was in the U.S.?

01:21:09.840 Yeah.

01:21:10.300 And you were 17?

01:21:11.640 Yeah.

01:21:12.000 We're gonna fight him.

01:21:13.920 Yeah.

01:21:16.100 Yikes.

01:21:16.820 That guy's fucking up.

01:21:18.020 Did you lie about your age or he knew?

01:21:20.200 What?

01:21:20.720 He knew how old you were?

01:21:22.140 Or did you lie about your age?

01:21:23.320 Yeah, he knew.

01:21:24.000 Okay, that's a yikes.

01:21:26.660 That's a yikes from me, dude.

01:21:28.200 Yeah.

01:21:28.940 Because I was gonna say, I don't know what the age of consent in China has

01:21:31.720 maybe it's different there.

01:21:33.980 I don't know.

01:21:34.340 I mean, like, it's weird.

01:21:36.400 So, like, in America, so people can't date, like, under 18 or something?

01:21:41.200 Where I'm from, it's 16.

01:21:42.840 I guess it depends on the state.

01:21:43.920 But I didn't know that until I came to California and everyone looked at me

01:21:46.940 like I was a freaking weirdo.

01:21:48.460 But, like...

01:21:49.100 Why?

01:21:49.360 Because you were dating a bunch of 16-year-old men?

01:21:51.780 No, no.

01:21:51.800 Because I made, like, I was, like, with some of my friends.

01:21:53.920 And I was just like, oh, as long as she's, like, 16, you're good.

01:21:56.060 And they looked at me like I was psycho.

01:21:58.120 Because I genuinely didn't know that in each state the age of consent is different.

01:22:03.380 Yeah, I didn't even know.

01:22:03.920 So, maybe, like, Reno...

01:22:04.560 Oh, my state's so much sad.

01:22:05.720 Maybe Reno's just crazy, but...

01:22:08.120 Okay.

01:22:08.720 Well, it is different in different states.

01:22:10.980 Yeah, because, like, there's, like, also, like, legal, like, prostitution and stuff in Nevada.

01:22:15.380 So, it's different.

01:22:17.920 Okay.

01:22:19.140 Your turn?

01:22:20.300 I have not been with someone with an age gap.

01:22:24.280 Okay.

01:22:25.460 So, around your age, for the most part?

01:22:27.420 Okay.

01:22:27.700 Yeah.

01:22:28.180 Same.

01:22:29.220 Sydney?

01:22:30.040 I have, but I have no comment on it.

01:22:32.400 What?

01:22:32.720 How much was the gap?

01:22:34.000 I have no comment.

01:22:35.560 Was it a sugar daddy?

01:22:36.700 No.

01:22:37.220 Seeking arrangements?

01:22:38.180 No.

01:22:39.200 I haven't done that.

01:22:40.020 I have, like...

01:22:40.840 20 years old?

01:22:41.780 I have no comment on that.

01:22:42.720 Okay.

01:22:43.320 Above?

01:22:44.260 I have no comment on that.

01:22:45.880 I have housemates that are sugar babies, and they're killing it.

01:22:48.800 They're killing the game.

01:22:50.300 But...

01:22:50.700 Rip for those guys.

01:22:52.140 Okay.

01:22:52.560 And you?

01:22:53.360 Yeah.

01:22:53.900 So, this one, the most current one, it's, like, 13 years now.

01:22:59.920 But it started...

01:23:01.100 I'm 21.

01:23:01.800 It started when I was 21, so I felt like that was okay.

01:23:05.320 It's my first age gap.

01:23:06.260 Is it a woman or a guy?

01:23:08.100 It's a guy.

01:23:08.680 Okay.

01:23:08.980 Yeah.

01:23:09.260 Got it.

01:23:10.140 Okay.

01:23:11.140 Rock and roll.

01:23:11.860 So, I feel like maybe that puts a little bit of a different perspective on it, because I'm

01:23:15.860 the same age gap as Brittany, and the fact that he's, like, 22, I feel like that makes

01:23:21.340 it fine, because there's a big difference to me in 18 and 21.

01:23:25.640 Yeah.

01:23:26.200 Sure.

01:23:26.640 I feel like a lot of people will see that, especially, like, in a college town.

01:23:29.260 So, like, I felt, like, with him that I'm mature enough, and, like, I know what I want, and

01:23:35.600 I don't feel like I can be easily manipulated so that I feel comfortable doing it, and, like,

01:23:40.020 I can put my foot down when I need.

01:23:42.640 But I felt like at 18, I wouldn't have the same skills that I have now to be able to,

01:23:47.160 like, not be in a bad position like that.

01:23:51.940 Kiki, what do you think?

01:23:54.620 Okay.

01:23:54.940 That was very insightful, Kiki.

01:23:57.420 Yeah.

01:23:57.860 So, I mean, I don't know.

01:23:59.380 It seems like for men, a lot of men, if you ask them, they'd say their preference is to

01:24:08.080 date younger women.

01:24:09.620 Not all of them can, but I think if you ask most men, the age range that they find most

01:24:16.220 attractive is probably between 18 and 25.

01:24:20.720 You disagree?

01:24:22.200 No, it's just sad.

01:24:23.680 Why is it sad?

01:24:24.320 Because I feel like there's so much beauty in older women, like, everybody loves, not

01:24:28.980 to be too offensive, but everybody loves a MILF, like, just older women are so beautiful.

01:24:33.880 A MILF?

01:24:34.700 Yeah.

01:24:36.400 I mean, most guys actually have a preference.

01:24:39.060 I mean, look at the frat guys.

01:24:40.380 I live next to a frat house, and they're always talking about, like, oh, yeah, moms.

01:24:44.360 MILFs?

01:24:44.940 Not, maybe not, but, like, oh, yeah, bro, your mom's hot.

01:24:47.600 Just, like, yeah, bro.

01:24:49.880 Like, older women are fine.

01:24:51.000 I mean, most men, like, as far as the MILF thing, most men don't want to date women

01:24:56.200 with children.

01:24:57.700 They don't want to date single mothers.

01:24:58.940 The children thing, I can understand, because that's kind of, like, a package deal, and

01:25:01.960 that's, like, you're not just...

01:25:03.260 I can speak for myself.

01:25:04.300 I don't want to date.

01:25:05.120 Right.

01:25:05.440 Because you're not just dating her.

01:25:06.660 You're dating her.

01:25:07.360 Like, her kids are involved.

01:25:08.480 Whoa, okay.

01:25:09.020 No, but, like, her kids are involved.

01:25:11.580 Like, she may have to cancel dates if she's going on a kid, like, with a kid.

01:25:14.560 Like, you know, like, there's stuff.

01:25:15.800 What if the kid's in college?

01:25:16.860 Does that change things?

01:25:18.480 If the kid's not at home anymore?

01:25:19.840 Or, like, oh, so you're talking, like, 50s.

01:25:23.060 Maybe she was a young mom.

01:25:24.380 Maybe she's in her 40s.

01:25:28.880 I mean, it's still, like...

01:25:31.880 It's still...

01:25:33.440 She's old.

01:25:34.520 If I'm changing.

01:25:35.840 She's just kind of old.

01:25:36.680 I mean, look, I dated a woman who's 45.

01:25:39.940 She didn't have any kids, though.

01:25:41.700 So there's that.

01:25:42.580 Um, she's a...

01:25:45.040 She's babe status.

01:25:46.880 But generally speaking, like, for me, and I think for a lot of guys, 18 to 25 is what we've...

01:25:57.820 In terms of what we find physically attractive is, like, the peak range.

01:26:03.060 I know it's your biology, but I'm judging you.

01:26:05.180 It is the biology.

01:26:05.820 I'm judging.

01:26:06.620 No, I mean...

01:26:07.820 But, see, this is the thing.

01:26:09.140 Is guys are not allowed to have standards, preferences, or boundaries.

01:26:13.240 Like, heaven forbid, right?

01:26:15.080 A man find a woman who is at her peak physical attractiveness attractive.

01:26:23.520 If we...

01:26:24.280 I'm not...

01:26:24.700 We're not going to pull it up.

01:26:25.600 But if we pulled up, like, a 19-year-old baddie who's fucking stacked, you're going to tell me,

01:26:32.480 Brian, you shouldn't be attracted to her and find her attractive.

01:26:36.920 Come on.

01:26:37.340 If they have...

01:26:38.440 And you're bi, too.

01:26:39.300 You wouldn't find, like, an...

01:26:40.380 Well, you're 21, right?

01:26:41.740 21, yeah.

01:26:42.360 Okay.

01:26:42.960 So, I mean...

01:26:43.740 I specifically don't date younger.

01:26:45.240 I guess you're allowed to find...

01:26:47.180 You're within the acceptable age range.

01:26:50.000 You can find a 19-year-old baddie.

01:26:52.520 Oh, you don't date younger women.

01:26:53.820 I won't.

01:26:54.140 I won't.

01:26:54.440 You prefer older women.

01:26:55.560 Because it just feels like...

01:26:57.340 Like, especially now that I'm 21.

01:26:58.860 Like, I'll do 20.

01:27:00.300 But, like, 19 and 18.

01:27:01.800 Like, you just graduated from high school.

01:27:05.040 What do we have in common?

01:27:06.200 Like, I feel like I'm...

01:27:07.520 You're looking for something different.

01:27:08.840 I'm looking for something different.

01:27:10.200 And I especially don't want to be your first time.

01:27:13.340 I mean, I...

01:27:15.200 Okay, here goes...

01:27:16.520 We're going into the next one.

01:27:17.980 Men value sexual purity in women.

01:27:20.200 Mm-hmm.

01:27:20.560 So, if they're a virgin, like, for most men, that's a pro.

01:27:25.240 That's not a con.

01:27:26.600 Which is also weird.

01:27:27.760 Don't you want them to be, like, good at sex?

01:27:31.580 Do I want them to be good at sex?

01:27:33.300 Like, imagine if women thought that same way and were chasing after men who were virgins.

01:27:37.020 Like, he would never put it down right.

01:27:39.460 Yeah, but it's...

01:27:39.700 But it's...

01:27:40.380 See, but for...

01:27:41.780 Honestly, it's not that hard for a woman to be good in bed.

01:27:45.960 Especially if the guy, if you're more dominant and you lead in the bedroom.

01:27:51.240 But then you shame us that we're pillow princesses.

01:27:53.680 Make up your minds, men.

01:27:54.940 I mean, but here's the thing.

01:27:56.160 Like, you can teach a girl.

01:27:58.060 Most...

01:27:58.420 But most women, though, would have serious issue, like, oh, I have to teach a guy?

01:28:05.940 I have to show a guy how to fuck me?

01:28:07.720 Most girls want guys to come pre-assembled.

01:28:10.900 They want guys to just get it.

01:28:12.600 They don't want to have to teach a guy.

01:28:14.100 Build a bitch.

01:28:14.440 Some women will be fine with that.

01:28:18.640 They'll show a guy.

01:28:19.620 And maybe they're a bit more on the dominant side.

01:28:22.080 But, I mean, most men, like, if you know what you're doing, you can teach the girl.

01:28:26.360 You can...

01:28:27.880 Give me a virgin.

01:28:28.700 I'll teach her exactly...

01:28:29.960 I'll make her good in bed.

01:28:31.500 Boom.

01:28:32.180 Problem solved.

01:28:33.480 You guys want to come in on this?

01:28:34.860 Go ahead.

01:28:35.700 Yes, please.

01:28:37.280 Who's versus him?

01:28:40.040 Oh, no.

01:28:40.860 I want to hear you.

01:28:42.020 Actually, before you come in, so you said, like, oh, you...

01:28:45.920 As a guy, you'd have nothing in common with someone who's younger.

01:28:49.220 Or also, a woman would have...

01:28:51.260 An older woman would have very little in common with someone who's younger.

01:28:56.480 If it was a cougar, for example.

01:28:58.200 I just meant, like, even me being 21 and that person being 18, like, that would be such

01:29:03.120 a limit to what we can do together.

01:29:06.640 And then also, just in terms of what we've been through in life, like, genuinely, you

01:29:10.340 just graduated from high school.

01:29:12.380 I don't know how else to put that.

01:29:13.660 It's just, like, would be weird for me to date somebody who just got out of high school.

01:29:17.080 Hey, maybe they're in their first year of college.

01:29:20.040 Good for them.

01:29:20.840 Do well and date someone else who's in their first year of college.

01:29:23.820 But this whole, like, commonality thing, I hear this one a lot.

01:29:28.060 So, let me ask you guys a question.

01:29:30.640 Have you ever had a ton in common with someone and you've just simultaneously not been attracted

01:29:38.660 to them?

01:29:41.380 Yes.

01:29:42.140 Yeah.

01:29:42.380 That's a friend.

01:29:43.680 Right.

01:29:43.880 You're not attracted to them, but you have a lot in common with them.

01:29:46.280 Right.

01:29:46.560 But so, commonality, then, is not the key determining factor in who you find physically attractive

01:29:52.200 and who you want in a partner.

01:29:53.880 Yeah.

01:29:55.540 Wait, are you disagreeing or agreeing?

01:29:57.160 No, I mean, yeah.

01:29:58.460 Right.

01:29:58.980 So, I mean, you've probably met, also, you've probably met people that you have great conversational

01:30:04.760 flow with of the opposite sex.

01:30:07.380 Conversation's great.

01:30:08.380 You're just not attracted to them.

01:30:10.040 Have you had that experience?

01:30:11.840 Yeah.

01:30:11.960 They're a friend, right?

01:30:13.160 So, I don't know, to me, like, I don't need a girl to have the same weird taste in 90s

01:30:18.940 music that I do.

01:30:20.500 I don't care about that.

01:30:23.080 You know?

01:30:24.600 So, you know, I don't, I, for me, then again, like, the type of woman I like, she doesn't

01:30:33.120 need to, like, come with the witty banter.

01:30:35.480 I don't care.

01:30:36.060 If she has it, great.

01:30:37.320 I don't care.

01:30:37.840 She, like, there's things that are more important to me than being able to relate on movies

01:30:45.780 and TV shows and that shit.

01:30:49.760 Go ahead.

01:30:50.160 Can I ask you what's more important to you?

01:30:52.300 What do you mean, what's more important to me?

01:30:53.840 What's more important to you than witty conversations and relating to movies?

01:30:58.900 Out of curiosity.

01:30:59.880 Okay, so just on the topic of, I mean, we could even go into, like, talk about types

01:31:04.720 with each other, but just specifically conversationally, like, I don't need a girl that's, like, super

01:31:11.440 fucking witty.

01:31:12.280 I don't care.

01:31:13.220 I don't need, I don't need a girl that's funny.

01:31:15.340 I don't care.

01:31:17.800 That, that is, like, so low on the totem pole for me for what I want in a woman.

01:31:22.600 It doesn't matter.

01:31:23.760 I want a girl.

01:31:24.300 I, this is good.

01:31:27.820 I like this.

01:31:29.100 I want to hear this.

01:31:30.440 Because you've mentioned before that you don't, like, like, statistics about, like, guys don't

01:31:34.800 want a funny girl.

01:31:36.080 So I'm kind of, I'm kind of curious now.

01:31:38.700 Yes.

01:31:39.000 What do men look for?

01:31:40.220 So, okay, well, I'll say this.

01:31:41.080 So I'm definitely more introverted.

01:31:43.060 I'd say for the most part, I'm a fairly soft-spoken individual for the most part.

01:31:49.140 So I want that in a partner.

01:31:50.880 I want a girl who's kind of introverted, who's a bit shy.

01:31:53.540 You don't want the opposite to balance it out?

01:31:56.160 No.

01:31:56.460 I don't want, like, a loud, obnoxious, boisterous woman.

01:32:01.120 No offense to those of you out there.

01:32:03.600 Men taken.

01:32:04.420 But, okay.

01:32:06.080 No, I mean, I, I like kind of quiet, mellow, calming, relaxing chicks.

01:32:12.460 I don't, that's me, though.

01:32:15.920 Demure is a good one.

01:32:20.080 Demure.

01:32:20.280 That's demure.

01:32:21.180 Demure, yes.

01:32:23.540 I like demure women.

01:32:26.120 It's, like, moist.

01:32:27.800 Oh, with demure.

01:32:30.040 I've heard that moist complaint from a lot of women.

01:32:32.600 And for some reason, that seems to really bother y'all.

01:32:34.920 Yeah.

01:32:35.320 Okay, so where, where were we going?

01:32:39.840 I guess.

01:32:40.520 I think you had.

01:32:40.820 It's just strange because as a woman, like, I really want a funny partner.

01:32:45.440 Like, in fact, that's such a huge plus for me, if you can make me laugh and hold a conversation.

01:32:50.180 I think, you know, looks is something, but I've definitely lowered my standards in terms of, like, looks when it comes to personality.

01:32:58.980 Like, personality is added so much to a man.

01:33:01.400 Like, more than his height would ever do.

01:33:03.880 I want a boring chick.

01:33:05.520 Oh, my goodness.

01:33:06.280 I don't want a chick that's going to take me on adventures and that's exciting.

01:33:11.800 I just want, like, a mellow chick.

01:33:13.860 Something stable.

01:33:15.000 You want a homebody.

01:33:15.980 It sounds like you may need a cougar that's, like, ready to, like, stay home and, like, chill and, like, do some knitting.

01:33:21.120 Like, that sounds like that might be good for you.

01:33:22.440 Like, she's done her adventuring.

01:33:23.800 She's done her wild party days.

01:33:25.260 She's run through them.

01:33:25.980 She's ready to go to bed at 7 p.m.

01:33:28.180 Like, no, I stay up late, but I don't, I mean, just speaking specifically about that.

01:33:32.300 But that might be up your alley if she's tapped out.

01:33:35.140 She's done by, like, 8 p.m.

01:33:37.060 Like, she's ready to chill.

01:33:39.020 That might be for you.

01:33:40.260 Perhaps.

01:33:40.720 Okay.

01:33:41.440 Perhaps, but, I mean, so, okay, I don't really drink occasionally from time to time.

01:33:47.760 But if I do, it's one or two drinks max, a glass of wine, a beer, that's it.

01:33:52.660 I don't go to bars.

01:33:53.400 I don't go to clubs.

01:33:54.020 I don't party.

01:33:55.100 I would rather, and I've said this before, I'd rather masturbate with sandpaper than go to a bar or a club.

01:33:59.120 And so I'd want a similarity there in terms of a partner.

01:34:03.100 I don't want a girl that's up in the club, up in the bar.

01:34:05.940 Even if she goes without you?

01:34:08.140 That's a deal breaker for me.

01:34:09.700 Really?

01:34:10.280 I don't want to date a girl that parties like that.

01:34:12.620 Like, at all?

01:34:13.380 If she goes without you at all?

01:34:14.040 I'll hook up with a girl that, if she's a party girl, I'll hook up with her, but I'll never take her serious.

01:34:19.280 Interesting.

01:34:20.100 So my standard for, like, for being in a relationship with a girl is, like, she can't go to bars and clubs.

01:34:25.040 Not even with, like, a group of girls?

01:34:26.920 And you know these women and trust them?

01:34:28.600 It kind of depends.

01:34:29.520 Like, if it's maybe two or three times a year, it's just, like, a birthday party, that's a bit different.

01:34:36.580 But if, like, if she wants to go out every weekend, partying, drinking every weekend, because there's definitely, I'm sure you guys know, like, Santa Barbara, a lot of people drink.

01:34:48.120 I think everyone in the town's an alcoholic.

01:34:49.720 Like, people party a lot, people drink a lot, and, yeah, I don't want a girl that's out at the bars and clubs on a weekend.

01:34:57.880 To each their own.

01:34:58.900 Like, there's definitely those girls out here.

01:35:00.420 I know you want to come in on this.

01:35:01.800 Come on.

01:35:02.380 I just, I'm just listening.

01:35:04.280 I think it's interesting what you have to say.

01:35:06.020 Like, the whole, like, not her being able to go out to the bars and clubs, like, period, or two times, two, three times a year.

01:35:13.040 It depends.

01:35:14.340 That's what I'm saying.

01:35:15.040 Like, even not special occasions.

01:35:16.880 Like, I see what you're saying.

01:35:18.340 Like, I get it.

01:35:18.920 Like, some people just don't like going out and stuff.

01:35:21.460 And I see, like, the whole environment, like, may not be your thing.

01:35:23.700 And I get it.

01:35:24.260 Yeah.

01:35:25.060 Well, so it's two things.

01:35:26.280 One, so, I would never, I'm never going to go with her.

01:35:30.880 I would never go to a bar or club with a girl.

01:35:33.200 Why?

01:35:33.720 You'd have to fucking drag me, knock me out.

01:35:36.620 And, yeah, but, why?

01:35:39.200 Oh, my gosh.

01:35:39.860 I'm so cute.

01:35:40.760 I mean, okay, so, it's obnoxiously loud.

01:35:45.560 It is.

01:35:46.260 You can get hearing damage.

01:35:48.040 Grandpa Brian over here.

01:35:49.760 Sure.

01:35:50.500 But, yeah, I don't know if you've ever had the experience of going to a loud party, bar, club.

01:35:54.760 Ears are ringing after the fact.

01:35:56.020 You can get permanent hearing damage, permanent ringing in your ears.

01:36:00.780 It's called tinnitus.

01:36:02.020 That's a thing.

01:36:02.900 Just specifically on the noise thing, though, like, if you were there to talk, or you got

01:36:08.020 a fucking scream, then your voice gets all hoarse and shit.

01:36:11.420 It's very crowded.

01:36:17.180 There's a lot of people drinking.

01:36:18.880 I don't really drink like that, so, to me, drunk people are kind of obnoxious.

01:36:23.720 There's that.

01:36:24.440 Let's see what else.

01:36:26.200 A lot of stupid shit goes down.

01:36:28.300 Fights.

01:36:29.260 Violence.

01:36:30.380 I mean, I know Santa Barbara's a very affluent area, but I've seen people get stabbed on State

01:36:34.380 Street.

01:36:35.220 I've seen people get fucking knocked out cold, fucking break their head on the pavement,

01:36:39.800 brain damage for life.

01:36:40.840 Like, that shit can come to you when you're out and about like that.

01:36:45.460 Right.

01:36:45.620 Just totally unprovoked situations.

01:36:48.380 So, that's one reason that I don't like to go out, but really, I just, and also, I just

01:36:52.880 don't really drink.

01:36:53.840 So, and people are smoking, and.

01:36:57.000 I feel like you might like this bar in LA, it's called Barcade, and it's pretty chill

01:37:02.720 actually, not to do any promos, but you just go and it's all these old classic arcade games,

01:37:07.600 and it's, music's not loud, it's like an older crowd, everybody's like really chill, and you

01:37:12.600 get to, you know, do something, so that way if she wants to go out and drink and hang out

01:37:15.900 with your friends and stuff, you guys could go there together.

01:37:19.380 I would.

01:37:19.680 Just in case you fall for a party girl.

01:37:21.460 Well.

01:37:22.660 Need an alternative.

01:37:23.700 I, well, don't get me started about my disdain for Los Angeles, but.

01:37:27.980 True that.

01:37:28.480 I don't like LA.

01:37:30.460 But, okay, what were, what were you talking about?

01:37:33.600 I have a question for you.

01:37:34.800 Go ahead.

01:37:35.180 Is it the drinking you have a problem with, or the going out, like, let's say she's going

01:37:37.940 out every weekend, but she's sober each time.

01:37:40.260 She's DD.

01:37:40.980 She's just, yeah.

01:37:42.100 It's, it's the going out.

01:37:43.440 Okay.

01:37:43.640 I mean, drinking is bad, too, because I don't drink, and it's just something I'd want

01:37:47.400 in the partner is someone who drinks in moderation, who does not drink a lot.

01:37:50.580 But, I mean, usually drinking often coincides with going out to clubs and bars and parties.

01:37:56.880 I don't drink when I go out to clubs and bars and parties.

01:38:00.280 Yeah, that's still, for, for a partner, to me, I still think that's bad.

01:38:05.900 Really?

01:38:06.480 I still think it's bad.

01:38:07.280 I like to go out, I like to have fun, I like to dance, I like to be with the girls, but,

01:38:11.300 like, I don't drink, like, it's very rare if I drink, I don't get drunk, ever.

01:38:16.880 That's just a personal thing, because I feel like I like to have more fun when I'm, like,

01:38:21.180 sober than not.

01:38:23.320 But, I don't know.

01:38:25.160 I mean, I dated an ex that would stay in all the time.

01:38:28.020 And you would still go out?

01:38:29.160 I would still go out.

01:38:29.960 Did he have an issue with it?

01:38:31.720 No, because he would just stay in bed, and if he did have an issue with it, I didn't

01:38:34.720 really care, because he wasn't coming with me, so he didn't really get a say.

01:38:38.740 Okay.

01:38:38.940 Yeah, I just want to make something clear, like, it's not, I wouldn't control the girl,

01:38:43.860 it would just be, here are my standards, if you want to go out, fine, we're no longer

01:38:48.360 in a relationship.

01:38:49.720 I'm not going to try to control the girl, no, you can't do that, it's never going to

01:38:53.880 be an argument.

01:38:54.900 Right.

01:38:55.260 It would just be like, in the same way that a lot of women, for example, have preferences

01:38:59.500 over men who don't play video games.

01:39:02.020 You ask a lot of women, they say, if my guy's playing a lot of video games, I have an issue

01:39:06.700 with that, or some girls might say, I don't want you to be paying for another girl's OnlyFans,

01:39:12.160 or I don't want you to go to the strip club, so for me, I don't want my girl going to bars

01:39:20.000 and clubs.

01:39:20.580 That's a boundary you'd set.

01:39:21.700 It's a boundary.

01:39:22.080 That's fair.

01:39:22.560 Yeah.

01:39:23.220 It's not, it would never be a control thing.

01:39:25.340 Right.

01:39:25.600 If a girl was like, fuck you, Brian, I'm going, I'm like, okay, we're just not right for each

01:39:30.380 other, you know?

01:39:30.980 Um, but, uh, I can tell you guys why it's an issue for me as far as girls going to the

01:39:38.140 club.

01:39:38.720 Well, men and women flirt differently.

01:39:41.640 So in my view, you're starting to get into cheating territory a little bit, because as

01:39:45.260 a guy, if you go to a nightclub or a bar, ain't nobody, let's say you go alone, right?

01:39:53.540 You go to a bar or a club or a party, ain't nobody coming in to talk to you that night.

01:39:58.120 Nobody's coming up to you.

01:39:59.460 No chicks are hitting on you.

01:40:00.620 You're just going to sit at the bar alone with your drink, lonely.

01:40:05.220 That's it.

01:40:06.100 As a girl, if you go to a bar, club or a party, guys are going to come up and hit on you.

01:40:11.360 So that's kind of my issue with it.

01:40:13.800 But if you don't trust her, you don't trust her.

01:40:16.480 Well, I think guys do.

01:40:20.040 I mean, I think guys do get approached at bars and stuff like that.

01:40:24.520 So, hey, like.

01:40:26.000 Really?

01:40:26.700 When's the last time you approach guys?

01:40:28.720 Yeah.

01:40:30.320 How often?

01:40:31.440 When's the last time you approach the guy?

01:40:32.460 I mean, if I see a cute guy, if I see a fine man, I'm going to approach him.

01:40:35.260 Hasn't it been like five months for you?

01:40:37.240 Since I've had sex, not since I've gone out.

01:40:39.420 Have you approached a guy?

01:40:40.520 Yeah, of course.

01:40:42.520 And you're telling me, so you approached a guy, you hit on the guy, and it just never

01:40:45.360 went anywhere?

01:40:46.960 Well, it depends.

01:40:47.800 Okay, yeah, actually.

01:40:48.860 I mean, we did.

01:40:49.300 So you approach them.

01:40:50.260 Okay.

01:40:50.960 You're funny.

01:40:51.520 But we approach them, like, see if there's a vibe, see if there's a dynamic.

01:40:55.160 If there is, there is.

01:40:56.260 And if there isn't, there isn't.

01:40:57.480 Then.

01:40:58.240 But in my, like, my past, like, I've approached men, I would say, let's see, maybe two to five

01:41:06.360 ratio of two went well, five didn't.

01:41:11.300 I feel like guys don't like that.

01:41:12.820 They don't like women who are approachable or, like, want to approach them.

01:41:16.660 I feel like guys are looking for what you're looking for, which is more demure women who

01:41:21.420 are just, you know, I disagree.

01:41:23.640 You know, I think a lot of guys, I think most men, there's definitely men who are, like,

01:41:28.640 not, who are, like, hyper-masculine.

01:41:31.220 Maybe it's not even hyper-masculine, but they're, like, I want to be the lead.

01:41:35.340 You know, they want to be the leader in the relationship, so they want to be the one initiating.

01:41:39.760 But I think, honestly, the vast majority of guys, myself included, I actually do appreciate

01:41:44.700 when women take initiative and when women approach.

01:41:47.640 Um, it's very refreshing because most guys get, unless you're just going up to the mega-babe

01:41:57.560 dudes, you know, the top-tier guys, then they probably get it more regularly.

01:42:01.880 But most men get no attention from women whatsoever.

01:42:06.700 Go ahead.

01:42:07.020 That's something me and my friends actually talk about a lot.

01:42:09.340 Like, men aren't really, as much as I hate to agree with men, but men, for the most part,

01:42:14.500 aren't ever really complimented.

01:42:15.640 Like, I feel like girls are always, like, oh my gosh, you look so good, or to each other,

01:42:19.500 even from men, but, like, very rarely do I ever hear my guy friends, like, getting that

01:42:23.900 same attention.

01:42:24.760 So, like, I could see why it would be refreshing or nice for a girl to come up to you.

01:42:28.080 And I think that, that's why I said I disagree with you.

01:42:30.180 I think that girls or guys do like that, and I could see why.

01:42:34.480 I feel like, too, I've learned, like, and I've learned this because, like, I, like, have,

01:42:40.000 like, some friends that have told me this.

01:42:41.420 Like, I work for a football team.

01:42:43.260 I've learned this, but, like, I've learned that guys don't get complimented nearly enough,

01:42:48.060 like you said.

01:42:48.680 And if you give them the smallest compliment, they will run with that for their, like, entire

01:42:53.000 day.

01:42:53.480 Like, I've, I notice a lot, like, when guys get haircuts, I'll be like, oh my god, I like

01:42:56.800 your haircut.

01:42:57.180 Like, literally, in passing, it's not me flirting with you.

01:42:59.460 It's not me hitting on you.

01:43:00.360 It's, you got a haircut.

01:43:01.800 I've noticed it.

01:43:02.580 You look good.

01:43:03.620 But, like, if it's in a bar, and you're just like, hey, I think you're really handsome,

01:43:07.320 like, just so you know, and you walk away, like, that's going to be in their head, you

01:43:11.020 know?

01:43:11.300 Like, that's...

01:43:11.860 Bro, he's going to be crushed if you walk away, though.

01:43:14.040 But then that also, that can also, like, open a door for him to, like, shoot that next

01:43:18.640 shot.

01:43:18.980 And if he doesn't, and you're, like, leaving, and you see him again, okay, then there's

01:43:22.100 your opportunity, ladies.

01:43:23.040 But, like, if you, like, just even the simplest compliment, it really makes a difference, and

01:43:28.660 it can shoot that first shot.

01:43:30.740 That's a good point.

01:43:31.460 No, it's a really good point on the compliment thing, too, because, I mean, most men have

01:43:36.180 never been complimented by a girl, never been hit on by a girl, never had a girl slide into

01:43:41.860 their DMs, never been pursued by a girl, never been overtly sexually desired by a girl, never

01:43:48.860 had a girl offer to take him out to dinner, never had a girl offer to buy him a drink at

01:43:56.860 a bar, never had a guy offer to fly him out somewhere, that's one.

01:44:00.520 Have you all ever, here, we'll go around really quick on this one, well, just to wrap

01:44:06.680 up, like, so most men are invisible to most women, like, they get no attention, none.

01:44:16.380 So, I think most men would be super enthusiastic, don't worry, I know, it's just the, it's just

01:44:21.600 the chair squeaking, yeah, but, like, most, most men would be super enthusiastic about

01:44:27.280 a woman making some initiative and, or giving them a compliment or whatever, but, yeah, they

01:44:36.400 will, honestly, you said they'll remember that for the day, most men, if you compliment

01:44:40.640 them, they'll fucking remember that for their life.

01:44:43.940 Even if it's literally at a grocery store, like, just, like, you're, like, checking out

01:44:48.140 whatever, like, it's the smallest thing and it makes it, like, I remember at the gym,

01:44:52.120 I had a girl just the other day come up to me and she's like, oh my god, like, I see

01:44:54.960 you working hard, like, your body's like my dream body and that, I ran with that, I'm

01:44:58.860 gonna remember that forever.

01:45:00.540 Like, forever.

01:45:01.640 So, it's like those little things.

01:45:02.980 Yeah.

01:45:03.420 Makes a difference.

01:45:04.860 Yeah.

01:45:05.300 If a girl offers to fly you out, like, so you would just be so surprised.

01:45:09.120 If a girl offered to fly me out, what are you talking about?

01:45:12.080 Some unicorns, some, like, dream, some dream world.

01:45:15.140 Some quiet, stay home, like, perfect woman for you.

01:45:18.140 But she goes out every weekend.

01:45:19.300 Large lady.

01:45:20.300 She's not going.

01:45:21.160 Oh my god.

01:45:21.840 What?

01:45:22.340 Wait, what?

01:45:23.180 What?

01:45:23.420 If it's a girl offering you to fly you out, she's attractive, but she goes out every weekend.

01:45:26.880 He not going.

01:45:27.600 You're not going?

01:45:28.380 Let's see.

01:45:29.000 Well, he'll stay at her house.

01:45:31.880 Yeah, I mean, I mean, so my thing is, is I'm not really trying to just run through a bunch

01:45:37.420 of chicks, like, I am interested in more serious situations, so to me it's like, kind

01:45:44.380 of, what's the point, you know?

01:45:47.920 I'm not, I'm not about, like, there's this Sir Mix-a-Lot song, I don't know if you've

01:45:52.560 heard it, Baby Got Back.

01:45:54.440 In the song, he says, some punks like to hit it and quit it, but I'd rather stay and

01:45:58.720 play.

01:45:59.600 So, I know I'm very pale to be rapping, by the way.

01:46:03.620 But no, like, that's, that's kind of where I'm at.

01:46:06.460 Like, I don't get, to me it's kind of weird, these guys that are just fucking chicks once

01:46:10.880 and then ghosting, like, that to me is weird.

01:46:12.740 Like, I mean, maybe there's something wrong or whatever, but to me, what's the point?

01:46:17.900 Then again, I'm very busy, so I'm like, the thought of just hooking up with a girl once

01:46:21.880 and then never talking to her again is, for example, let's say there's a girl who's like

01:46:25.920 just in town, there's a lot of tourists here in Santa Barbara, she's just in town for

01:46:29.300 the weekend and she's fucking down.

01:46:31.520 I'm not gonna fuck her.

01:46:33.280 Like, legit, I would not, to me it's a waste of time.

01:46:37.580 To be fair, it's never that guaranteed usually.

01:46:42.080 Although some, actually no, I have turned down some women.

01:46:45.460 There was like, clearly they're just, hey, I'm in town for the weekend, let's hook up.

01:46:49.400 To me it's, I'm not gonna.

01:46:50.820 Does your status ever get in the way for you?

01:46:52.900 My status?

01:46:54.540 Bro, YouTuber, okay, well, sorry, go ahead.

01:46:56.520 No, no, no, go ahead, because like, people like knowing like, oh, you're from YouTube,

01:47:00.300 oh, you have all this stuff, oh, you have all these awards, like, is that ever, like,

01:47:04.700 do you ever get those women that are just like, hey, just because you have that title?

01:47:09.100 Girls don't give a fuck.

01:47:10.560 I'm gonna be honest, for me anyways, but here's the thing, like.

01:47:13.780 Because we were talking about the Leonardo DiCaprio thing about like how like he's getting

01:47:16.840 like.

01:47:16.960 He's got real, Leonardo DiCaprio has real status.

01:47:19.720 Right, but like, I'm just saying though, like, like you do have like some, like you

01:47:23.960 have it.

01:47:24.540 I have a degree of status, but like, one, my audience is predominantly male, so like these

01:47:29.940 girls have never heard of me, and I don't have a blue check mark on Instagram, whatever

01:47:36.020 has a blue check mark on Instagram.

01:47:38.780 I own whatever, but you know, it's, it's different.

01:47:43.100 Um, honestly, most, most girls have not given a fuck.

01:47:51.660 Keep, keep in mind, I'm 33.

01:47:54.220 So I think, I'm 33, yeah.

01:47:57.360 Dinosaur, right?

01:47:58.540 I thought you were like 27 or something.

01:48:01.140 Well, thank you for the compliment.

01:48:02.140 Much appreciated.

01:48:02.780 You look great.

01:48:03.880 Thank you for the endorsement.

01:48:05.420 The wrinkles are starting to come in though.

01:48:06.840 Um, but, uh, no, honestly, my experience has been like, no chick is like, Brian, it's

01:48:13.380 so cool what you do.

01:48:14.860 Most women like, don't give a fuck.

01:48:16.800 I've actually had women who, uh, who actually are like, this is a detractor.

01:48:22.360 Really?

01:48:23.080 Yes.

01:48:24.140 Because you talk to so many women?

01:48:26.940 Well, so, I mean, I've had women who are like professional women, and they're like, hey,

01:48:32.020 Brian, you know, you did all these crazy prank videos and stuff, and I'm a litigation attorney.

01:48:40.080 I don't know if I can, you know, it's, they're like, oh, there's a mismatch in our careers.

01:48:47.580 Because I'm not a, like, an upright button up, or upright, like, suit.

01:48:53.100 I'm not a, like, well, I'm, I'm professional, but I'm not a, like, a yuppie.

01:48:58.280 I'm not, you know, in the corporate world.

01:49:02.280 So, like, if you met a girl, and the girl, she doesn't know you're a YouTuber, she doesn't

01:49:08.500 know, like, all the stuff you did before, what, like, on the date, will you, like, tell

01:49:13.220 her?

01:49:14.220 I mean, like, as a thing that you think you're proud of?

01:49:18.480 I mean, you know, kind of like a thing you can show off?

01:49:21.820 Like, will you, like, tell her as a, yeah?

01:49:25.280 No.

01:49:25.540 Honestly, I don't even, um...

01:49:28.480 You just wait, like, her to, like, find out by herself?

01:49:31.000 If she asks, but I'm not, if she asks, then I'll tell her about my work, but I don't really

01:49:34.440 like talking about my, like, YouTube and my work.

01:49:38.560 I'm more, I'm typically, actually, conversationally, on a date, I'm more inquisitive.

01:49:42.960 So, I'm trying to, like, hear more what they have to say.

01:49:48.540 My experience on dates has definitely been, like, yeah, they, honestly, a lot of times,

01:49:53.640 like, the girls don't even care.

01:49:54.900 Like, they won't even ask about it.

01:49:56.760 I think that's valid.

01:49:57.860 Like, I'm the same way.

01:49:58.700 I'm very inquisitive.

01:49:59.460 Like, if I'm meeting a guy for the first time, and if they are very quick to talk about all

01:50:03.240 their accomplishments, the things that they like, I'm like, no, thank you.

01:50:06.240 Like, no.

01:50:06.980 Like, I won't.

01:50:07.580 Like, that's great, but like, geez.

01:50:08.700 Yeah, I try to stay reasonably humble.

01:50:11.540 Like, I'm not, I would never be like, so, I have three million subscribers and this many

01:50:18.280 views.

01:50:18.660 I would never do that, because I think that's a, it's fucking lame, to be honest.

01:50:23.700 But, no, I honestly, like, unless they ask about it, I won't even bring it up.

01:50:28.400 Like, some girls, like, if it's on the first date, second date, or whatever, and where she,

01:50:33.040 like, comes back to my place, or whatever, she'd be like, what's that?

01:50:35.880 Like, she'll see the plaques, or whatever, and then she'll be curious.

01:50:38.980 But, honestly, my experience has been, most chicks don't give a fuck.

01:50:43.360 But, here's the thing.

01:50:44.480 Like, I've tried to remain fairly humble.

01:50:46.760 So, I put, on the totem pole of clout, let's just say, you have, like, A-list celebrities,

01:50:54.560 musicians, and then there's, like, musicians, actors, hmm.

01:50:59.940 It's probably, like, athletes.

01:51:01.620 No, it's probably musicians, athletes, actors.

01:51:04.140 There's, and then there's, like, hmm, a little, and then you've got to skip down, like, oh,

01:51:11.800 stand-up comedians, and then.

01:51:14.680 Models.

01:51:15.900 Male models?

01:51:16.960 Just models.

01:51:18.140 You don't have to be male.

01:51:18.720 I don't think chicks really care about male models, but.

01:51:23.280 And then you, like, a few more down, you've got, like, ventriloquist, and then below ventriloquist,

01:51:29.420 you have YouTuber.

01:51:30.900 That's my view on it.

01:51:33.480 But maybe that's just me being humble.

01:51:34.800 I don't know.

01:51:36.080 We did grow up with YouTube, so I feel like there's something more inherent for us to be

01:51:40.900 a little more cool with it.

01:51:42.200 Yeah, women my age are, like, what?

01:51:45.320 That's true.

01:51:46.360 31 YouTube.

01:51:48.420 Yeah.

01:51:48.980 They don't, they just think it's, like, this novelty.

01:51:51.320 But, like, I think younger people are definitely, like, they look up to YouTubers the same way

01:51:56.980 that people used to look up to top-tier, like, you know, A-list movie actors and that sort

01:52:04.580 of stuff, so.

01:52:06.040 Anyways, what were we talking about?

01:52:08.360 We were talking about most men are invisible.

01:52:11.840 Like, you were making the conclusions and stuff.

01:52:14.860 Yeah, how did we get there, though?

01:52:16.520 Let's do some super, or did anyone want to come in on anything, or?

01:52:20.120 No.

01:52:20.520 We were talking about the club.

01:52:24.700 Why?

01:52:25.460 Oh, I could do the dream world scenario to explain to you also why I think guys have

01:52:30.680 a higher interest in having a standard or preference for their girl not going to the club.

01:52:39.180 I mean.

01:52:39.800 I could paint you a dream world scenario.

01:52:41.720 I mean, I don't know if I.

01:52:43.900 I'll hear it.

01:52:44.960 All right, I'll do it.

01:52:46.480 I've got it written down here.

01:52:48.400 Oh.

01:52:48.660 Okay, I did this in the last show, but we'll just do it just because it came up.

01:52:51.840 So, okay.

01:52:52.520 This is a dream world hypothetical scenario.

01:52:55.420 So, let's create a dream world.

01:52:57.900 Let's be honest.

01:52:58.900 Like, unless a guy is super famous, like, super good looking, like, girls just really

01:53:04.160 aren't hitting up guys to the degree that I'm about to paint in this dream world fairy

01:53:10.980 tale scenario.

01:53:11.660 So, in the real world, like we already discussed, the vast majority of men who go out to parties,

01:53:16.980 bars, and clubs are invisible, just straight up get ignored the entire night.

01:53:20.820 So, okay.

01:53:21.180 This is the example I like to give.

01:53:24.120 Would you be okay with your long-term monogamous partner going to a nightclub bar or party type

01:53:30.460 environment where throughout the course of the night, he's going to get approached, flirted

01:53:35.080 with, and sexually pursued by numerous attractive women, some of which are more attractive than

01:53:40.540 you and could potentially be a better partner than you.

01:53:43.360 These women are buying him drinks, getting him drunk, and enthusiastically want to sleep

01:53:49.320 with him that night and steal him away from you.

01:53:52.500 It also just happens to be the case that you guys had a major argument earlier on in the

01:53:57.840 day, and his single man-ho friends are rallying, being a bad influence.

01:54:05.680 They don't like you, by the way.

01:54:08.500 Telling him he should do it, you know, whatever, talking shit about you all night.

01:54:13.360 Would you be okay with that scenario?

01:54:18.700 No.

01:54:20.800 Nah, I'd be pretty mad.

01:54:24.880 Yeah.

01:54:25.680 If he's pressable like that, and it's that easy for him to succumb to that pressure, then

01:54:32.060 I don't want to be with you anyways.

01:54:33.320 But personally, for me, if I'm going out and now that's happening, like, I'm shutting it

01:54:36.800 down quick.

01:54:37.220 Like, I'm with someone.

01:54:37.900 I don't even want to talk to you.

01:54:38.700 Thank you.

01:54:39.080 Like, nice to meet you.

01:54:39.680 Bye.

01:54:40.720 So.

01:54:41.680 Yeah.

01:54:42.040 I mean, I kind of agree.

01:54:43.100 Like, I was with you in the beginning.

01:54:45.120 I was like, okay, cool, whatever.

01:54:46.160 You know, like, like, I'm with this person, obviously, if he's like loyal and he has like,

01:54:50.680 like, he cares about me, my values, our relationship.

01:54:52.920 Because I've been in the situations where the friends don't like me.

01:54:55.460 I've been in the situations where like, we go in an argument, they go out, whatever.

01:55:00.440 Even, even like, without the friends hating you, I still think it can be viewed as an objectionable

01:55:06.660 scenario.

01:55:07.820 You know, I think my thing is like, I don't care if my man goes out, if he has like women

01:55:11.520 buying him drinks, if like, like, get your free drinks.

01:55:14.920 I personally don't care.

01:55:16.020 They want to, they want to fuck him.

01:55:17.620 If they're buying him drinks, I don't care.

01:55:19.120 If he still comes home to me.

01:55:21.320 What if the girls are more attractive than you physically?

01:55:23.880 If he still comes home to me.

01:55:25.400 I do have a little bit of a jealousy side.

01:55:27.260 But you see where the temptation is.

01:55:28.840 Yeah, absolutely.

01:55:30.200 But that's not his fault at all.

01:55:31.600 But like, if he does something, then it's like, all right, you're done.

01:55:34.480 Like, every relationship I've been in, I've been cheated on, I've been treated badly.

01:55:38.040 If he chooses to like, do something, that's where I'm like, now I feel like I'm strong

01:55:42.100 enough to like, cut the tie right there.

01:55:43.780 But I'm not going to be like, okay, well, like, you can't go out.

01:55:46.280 Because like, we just got in a heated argument.

01:55:47.940 Like, you need space, go get your, but like, if you do something, then it's like, we're done.

01:55:54.280 Your take?

01:55:55.140 Me personally, I feel like my man should have enough money to buy his own damn drink.

01:55:59.020 So like, he should have shot that down.

01:56:01.240 Definitely.

01:56:02.020 But that was the only red flag to me.

01:56:04.080 There's always going to be more beautiful women in the room.

01:56:06.360 There's somebody with a better personality.

01:56:08.680 It's just that I have to have the trust in him, same as he would have in me when I go

01:56:12.160 out, that I'm going to, I don't want anybody else.

01:56:14.000 I want my person.

01:56:15.180 And I'm here to dance and be with my friends.

01:56:17.540 And like, literally, like, fuck the club.

01:56:19.560 Like, I've never gone to the club and like, hooked up with somebody, had like, a flirty

01:56:23.660 interaction, because that's not what I'm there for.

01:56:25.700 What are you at the club for?

01:56:27.000 I shake my ass.

01:56:28.200 But what if they buy you the drinks?

01:56:29.880 Like, what if the role?

01:56:30.440 I don't accept drinks from strangers, because I don't know what the fuck you put in that.

01:56:33.320 That's why you watch it.

01:56:34.480 Like, you grab that drink and you run.

01:56:35.900 I make big girl money.

01:56:36.840 I'm going to take the free drink.

01:56:37.860 You take the free drink and you run.

01:56:39.320 No, because I feel like.

01:56:39.980 But I mean, the bartender would just pour it.

01:56:42.380 I feel like there's an expectation that I hate of like, you're obligated to do something.

01:56:48.180 But with the wrong man, like, that could be fatal.

01:56:52.400 So I just avoid it altogether.

01:56:54.660 The whole point is, is to do a bit of a role reversal here.

01:56:59.240 Because that scenario I just described never happens to men.

01:57:03.760 But that's pretty much what you experience as a woman.

01:57:06.780 Guys going out, buying you drinks, they want to fuck.

01:57:12.440 That temptation is not there in real life for men who just go to a bar.

01:57:18.080 Even if, even if they're just standing there.

01:57:21.780 I mean, just like, for, I don't know, like, for a healthy relationship, you guys, if you guys want to go, like, with long-term relationships.

01:57:29.660 If you guys, like, have argument, then just communicate and solve the problem instead of one of the, like, one of the people, like, go to the bar.

01:57:41.040 And I don't know.

01:57:42.600 I just, I don't think it's a good solution for any arguments happen between a couple.

01:57:47.920 Like, the real solution is just go talk to each other.

01:57:51.380 Go solve the problem instead of go to a club, go to a bar.

01:57:54.740 Because it's just not going to do anything to the problem.

01:57:59.160 Yeah.

01:57:59.660 Sure, sure.

01:58:00.940 I guess, here's another way I could paint it.

01:58:04.360 Would you be cool with your boyfriend staying on a dating app while you were in a relationship?

01:58:09.800 No.

01:58:10.460 No.

01:58:10.940 No, sir.

01:58:11.280 No.

01:58:12.580 Because why?

01:58:13.580 That, to me, is, like, the equivalent of a girl going out to a bar.

01:58:17.140 No.

01:58:17.700 Because you're, here's the thing.

01:58:20.280 Part of being in a monogamous, committed relationship, it means closing off your options, including the potential of a possibly,

01:58:29.480 better option.

01:58:31.320 That's the basis of getting commitment from somebody.

01:58:33.600 So, in order for women to close off their options, they, you can't really be going into a specific, well, no.

01:58:41.600 I'm not saying that.

01:58:42.640 But I'm saying a nightclub, bar, or party, it's a very specific social scenario where, look, I know girls get hit on at Trader Joe's.

01:58:54.620 I get that.

01:58:55.180 Girls get hit on just walking down the street, looking all frumpy and shit.

01:58:58.420 I get it.

01:58:59.300 Y'all still going to get approached no matter what.

01:59:01.320 That's not the issue, right?

01:59:03.080 But going to a bar, club, or party is a very specific scenario where I think it's not a good situation to be in if you're in a, if you're in a serious relationship.

01:59:17.780 That's my take.

01:59:18.780 Keep in mind, I don't go to bars and clubs.

01:59:21.000 I've been in the past, but.

01:59:22.220 Yeah, I mean, it's kind of fair.

01:59:23.860 If you don't go, it's reasonable.

01:59:26.540 Like, you don't want your partners to go.

01:59:28.460 So, like, if you go, then you just can't, like, oh, I can go to a club and you can't.

01:59:34.160 Right.

01:59:34.500 Yeah, right.

01:59:34.940 So, for me, it's totally reasonable.

01:59:37.520 So, for me, it's not just an issue of, hey, the club environment, you're going to get hit on.

01:59:43.960 You're going to be drinking.

01:59:44.980 Like, your friends are going to be in your ear.

01:59:46.240 Honestly, one of the worst things for relationships is your single friends.

01:59:51.060 Like, that shit's going to fuck you up.

01:59:54.060 But, what was I going to say?

01:59:56.540 For me, it's just a reciprocity thing, like, because I don't go to bars and clubs.

02:00:00.480 So, it goes beyond just, I think this is bad for relationships.

02:00:05.660 I think it's fair that you, like she said, I don't think it's, I think it's fair that you don't want your girl to go out because you don't go out.

02:00:10.700 But, the whole dating, men being on dating apps is the equivalent, I completely disagree on because, at the end of the day, the equivalent is women being on dating apps.

02:00:19.220 And, on a dating app, you're on the dating app to date, to meet other girls.

02:00:22.780 But, when you're going to the club, you're not going there to do that.

02:00:25.120 Like, you're going there to have fun and hang out.

02:00:26.760 Like, I'm not going to the club to be like, well, I hope I find a man.

02:00:29.040 Let me ask you guys a question.

02:00:30.100 Why do guys go to clubs?

02:00:31.660 To drink, to socialize.

02:00:33.140 To have fun.

02:00:33.360 Yeah.

02:00:34.400 Why not just socialize?

02:00:35.560 But, it's so fucking loud.

02:00:37.440 Like, if you wanted to socialize, why not just go somewhere?

02:00:39.880 Maybe you like music.

02:00:40.640 You're against bars and clubs.

02:00:42.360 Guys like dancing.

02:00:43.040 We know you're against bars and clubs.

02:00:45.300 We understand that you're against bars and clubs.

02:00:48.020 I'll tell you this.

02:00:49.320 Guys.

02:00:49.940 No.

02:00:51.200 Guys go out to bars and clubs to get chicks.

02:00:55.940 But, I, I.

02:00:57.320 They don't go out.

02:00:58.120 With all the girlfriends I have, I've never met a girl who's like, uh, I need to go get laid.

02:01:02.160 Like, let me go to the bars.

02:01:03.040 Like, Janule, I'd just go to Tinder if that was the case.

02:01:05.200 Like, I want to go out and dance.

02:01:06.640 I know.

02:01:06.820 I have roommates that do that.

02:01:08.060 Yeah.

02:01:08.540 I definitely have.

02:01:09.240 I know people who do that.

02:01:10.220 And they succeed.

02:01:11.100 Well, I bet.

02:01:11.800 Oh, yeah.

02:01:12.080 They're good.

02:01:13.020 I live with 17 girls, though.

02:01:14.800 Jesus.

02:01:15.620 Fair.

02:01:16.420 That's a yikes.

02:01:17.080 But, I think it's really important to remember, like, not everyone sees the bar or the club

02:01:20.440 space as, like, a dating scene.

02:01:22.240 Yeah.

02:01:22.340 Like, some people see it as genuinely to have a fun time or just to get fucked up.

02:01:25.660 Celebrate birthdays.

02:01:26.640 Like, guys night out.

02:01:28.140 But, I mean, certainly part of it is when you go out, you're going to get attention from men.

02:01:34.400 I'm pretty sure that's part of it.

02:01:35.820 I think it's low, though.

02:01:36.400 It's not as high as people going out to have fun.

02:01:39.240 It's just an endless argument.

02:01:42.280 Anyway.

02:01:44.140 Damn.

02:01:45.540 You want to dress to get the attention of whoever is bouncing so that way you don't have to pay

02:01:49.560 the cover fee.

02:01:50.940 That's the most important key.

02:01:52.840 I mean, I just don't get, like, okay, you want to go out to dance.

02:01:55.800 Why not just stay at home?

02:01:59.020 Just stay at home.

02:02:00.300 It's different.

02:02:00.960 And dance at home.

02:02:01.520 Just stay at home and dance, right?

02:02:03.500 Well, you can put on some music, drink at home, right?

02:02:06.600 So, anyways, whatever.

02:02:08.220 Okay.

02:02:08.500 We're going to move on from that one.

02:02:11.200 So, but sort of related.

02:02:16.540 And I think I might have brought this up before.

02:02:18.480 I think I already did.

02:02:22.100 The strip club thing, would you guys have an issue with your guy going to a strip club?

02:02:26.480 If they go with me, it's fine.

02:02:27.900 No, they go alone.

02:02:28.960 If they go with their friends, I think it's fine.

02:02:30.460 But by themselves, it's a little weird.

02:02:33.380 With friends, I don't personally care.

02:02:35.960 By themselves, it's weird.

02:02:37.260 Like, I could do that for you at home.

02:02:38.600 Like, why are you going out?

02:02:39.920 Yeah.

02:02:40.340 And for free.

02:02:41.160 Like, that's our wallet.

02:02:42.140 Yeah.

02:02:42.560 If it's with their friends, like, bachelor party, okay.

02:02:45.540 Like, go for it, but, like, or, like, I'll go with you, but, like, if you're going by

02:02:50.560 yourself, that's a little weird.

02:02:52.260 I would love to go to the strip club, so by yourself is really weird to me.

02:02:56.840 We're going to do a couple super chats.

02:02:58.640 We got one from Mr. Andrew Tate to the girl in red, come to Europe, baby.

02:03:03.700 Okay.

02:03:04.360 That's, do you have a response to?

02:03:08.220 I've been Europe before.

02:03:10.100 Yeah.

02:03:11.460 Okay.

02:03:13.160 We got, hey, what's up, man?

02:03:14.460 I'm sorry, I can't pronounce her name, man.

02:03:17.480 Thank you for the $10 super chat, man.

02:03:19.060 Much appreciated.

02:03:19.840 Brian just said what I was typing.

02:03:21.400 Most men would like to have women 19 to 25.

02:03:24.480 Not all men can, and not all men admit it, but it's true.

02:03:28.340 Yeah, if most men, like, if they could get, like, let's say older men, if they could date

02:03:34.640 a woman who was younger, they would 100% do it.

02:03:39.100 You ask most men, would you rather date a woman who, let's say you ask a 35-year-old,

02:03:43.860 would you rather date a 35-year-old or a 25-year-old?

02:03:46.540 Most of them are going to say 25.

02:03:48.040 Yeah.

02:03:50.640 Let's see.

02:03:51.580 Andrew Tate, thank you for the, I don't know what currency that is.

02:03:54.480 I want a woman who makes me two coffees.

02:03:56.480 Me too.

02:03:57.140 We should react to, maybe we should react to an Andrew Tate thing.

02:04:00.440 I think there's also this one from Andrew Tate.

02:04:02.560 I am flying the red-haired girl to Romania.

02:04:06.600 Pack your bags.

02:04:09.560 Do you have a response to Mr. Andrew Tate?

02:04:12.480 Are you going to accept his invitation?

02:04:15.640 Maybe, someday.

02:04:17.340 Okay, you do have a boyfriend, so.

02:04:19.060 So, maybe, yeah.

02:04:20.600 I don't know.

02:04:21.620 Okay.

02:04:22.520 So, just on the note of, let me see, on this one.

02:04:27.700 We could bring it back really quick to this, because I feel like we didn't quite wrap up

02:04:30.940 the whole Leonardo discussion and all that.

02:04:34.240 But before we do that, we'll probably wrap up here pretty soon.

02:04:37.600 I want to just open it up to you guys.

02:04:39.660 Do you guys have a question or, like, a final thought?

02:04:43.400 Either a question for me or a question for someone else on the panel related to dating.

02:04:50.280 Ma, why don't we start with you?

02:04:52.060 Just with the statistics that I've learned about so far tonight, it makes me just kind

02:04:56.540 of worried, because I want to grow old with somebody, and I want to get married and have,

02:05:02.380 like, kind of what we consider, like, that timeless, classic relationship.

02:05:05.920 But then, now there's this, like, okay, as I get older, I'm becoming less and less of,

02:05:11.200 like, if I end up with a man, I'm becoming less and less of my husband's type.

02:05:15.040 And then, I think that's also kind of why we see men, like, when their wives get sick

02:05:20.080 and things like that, like, they'll leave or they'll cheat on them.

02:05:23.200 And it's, you know, not all men, obviously, but that does happen.

02:05:26.600 And so...

02:05:27.560 I'd say that happens to both.

02:05:29.180 Yeah.

02:05:29.780 It's just kind of shitty.

02:05:30.760 People are shitty.

02:05:32.080 I have no faith in marriage right now.

02:05:33.900 It's sad.

02:05:34.900 Well, marriage is...

02:05:38.200 Marriage doesn't really benefit men anymore, so...

02:05:42.860 I don't think men should get married.

02:05:46.180 Don't do it, guys.

02:05:47.720 She'll take half.

02:05:48.520 Okay.

02:05:50.300 What?

02:05:50.920 Or she'll make half.

02:05:52.200 She'll make half.

02:05:52.920 Or more.

02:05:53.240 Right?

02:05:53.620 Or more.

02:05:54.160 Well, you know what?

02:05:54.780 It is the case that young women are actually starting to out-earn men, so...

02:06:00.920 And I think a lot of women are going to have a problem with that, so...

02:06:06.780 Because there have been some articles, I've seen some studies...

02:06:10.760 Or not studies, but some reports that women are struggling to find men that are financially

02:06:16.340 or economically attractive.

02:06:19.080 So I've seen some reports of that.

02:06:21.040 Men are making less money, and men are having less sex.

02:06:25.640 Sorry, guys.

02:06:27.440 Get better.

02:06:28.320 That's all I can say.

02:06:29.640 Sucks to suck.

02:06:31.780 What?

02:06:32.360 Okay.

02:06:32.720 I mean...

02:06:36.720 Where do I...

02:06:37.460 I don't even know where I'd be getting...

02:06:38.560 Feminism.

02:06:42.780 Okay.

02:06:43.440 Go ahead.

02:06:44.980 I don't really have any last, like, final words or final thoughts.

02:06:47.680 Question?

02:06:51.540 Not really.

02:06:52.580 I mean, I spoke what I had.

02:06:54.860 I stand by everything that I said.

02:06:56.840 Okay.

02:06:57.620 Final thought or question for me or for the panel?

02:06:59.880 I have a question, actually.

02:07:01.360 Why...

02:07:01.920 Back to the whole virgin conversation.

02:07:03.780 Sure, sure.

02:07:04.000 Why do you think that men prefer virgins?

02:07:06.260 Like, what about it is?

02:07:07.060 Is it the fact that they haven't been...

02:07:09.060 Like, what is it?

02:07:10.500 I mean, it's a couple things.

02:07:12.040 So we're getting into the body count thing.

02:07:14.880 So men just throughout most of human history, up until very recently, men have valued...

02:07:23.880 And actually, it's been valued in both genders.

02:07:27.280 So sexual purity has been something that's been valued.

02:07:32.400 Not anymore.

02:07:34.100 But I think men have a bigger stake in valuing it.

02:07:38.420 So men value sexual purity.

02:07:40.420 Why?

02:07:41.260 So there's a few things.

02:07:42.300 One, it's an evolutionary biological thing.

02:07:46.340 So one of those...

02:07:48.500 So it comes down to paternity.

02:07:50.340 So back in the day, talking caveman shit, if a woman was just fucking a bunch of dudes

02:07:57.320 and she got pregnant, you don't know who the dad is.

02:08:01.840 So men now in the past, I think it was in the 1980s, you know, we sequenced DNA.

02:08:06.920 We figured it all out.

02:08:08.040 We can get paternity tests today.

02:08:09.600 But that evolutionary hardwiring is still ingrained in men.

02:08:14.420 And as a woman, if you have a child, you know 100% that that child's yours.

02:08:18.920 But men have a...

02:08:21.040 Pretty much the biggest L you can take as a guy is believing a kid is yours and it's actually not.

02:08:29.540 So one, it just reveals that your partner was cheating on you.

02:08:33.980 And then the second is that is not your biological kid.

02:08:36.980 And a lot of men want to have children that are theirs.

02:08:42.780 So on both an intellectual level and like a innate biological evolutionary level,

02:08:50.100 men have a greater stake in women's sexual purity.

02:08:54.100 Because if a woman's just fucking a bunch of guys, whoops,

02:08:57.200 if a woman's just fucking around sleeping with a bunch of guys,

02:09:00.640 she's less...

02:09:02.640 The chances of the kid being his is greatly diminished.

02:09:06.980 Now, I know people are fucking and they're not...

02:09:11.100 Either the guy or the woman is not intending to have children.

02:09:14.820 People engage in casual sex all the time.

02:09:17.440 People have relationships and they want kids.

02:09:19.620 But I mean, there's other factors too.

02:09:21.100 So for example, sexually transmitted diseases.

02:09:23.860 Someone who's had more sexual partners...

02:09:26.180 And I mean, this is self-evident, but it's also backed up by studies.

02:09:29.680 If you've had more sexual partners, you're more likely to have an STD.

02:09:32.440 If you're promiscuous, if you have a high body count,

02:09:36.600 you're more likely to have an STD.

02:09:42.140 I mean, to me, that's self-evident.

02:09:45.460 What other reasons?

02:09:47.160 It's honestly...

02:09:47.780 It's also just kind of gross.

02:09:48.840 No offense.

02:09:50.140 Like for me...

02:09:51.560 Sydney's shaking her head here.

02:09:53.720 I'm being quiet.

02:09:54.800 So for me, I...

02:09:58.640 And I don't know if you girls, you might feel like there's an equivalent here

02:10:02.160 that you might feel the same way about this.

02:10:05.300 Now, I don't have an expectation that if the first message I send to a girl,

02:10:09.420 she's immediately going to be loyal to me and not talk to any other guys.

02:10:12.760 But to me, I don't want to sleep with a woman that's fucking another guy.

02:10:17.920 I don't care if it's our first time sleeping together.

02:10:19.880 One of my preferences, and it's not even a preference.

02:10:23.180 It's really like, well, people lie so you can never be sure what's going on

02:10:27.940 and people be fucking...

02:10:30.160 The thought of sleeping with a woman that fucked a guy the night before just disgusts me.

02:10:35.680 I find that disgusting.

02:10:38.460 Incredibly unattractive.

02:10:40.920 You'd let a guy come inside you yesterday and now you want to fuck...

02:10:43.680 Even if we're using a condom, I just find that gross.

02:10:46.100 In the same way that you might say, if a guy just fucked a girl,

02:10:50.200 he didn't even shower and he's fucking you,

02:10:51.800 you might be like, that's kind of gross.

02:10:54.600 So, yeah, that's the other thing.

02:10:57.900 Like, I don't...

02:10:59.380 I don't know.

02:11:01.340 Did you want to come in?

02:11:02.660 Yeah, I mean, like, she could not be a virgin and that happened

02:11:05.160 where she's not fucking...

02:11:06.240 Had fucked a guy the night before.

02:11:08.540 And, like, you could...

02:11:09.260 You know, she didn't have to be a virgin for that to be a boundary.

02:11:12.500 Right.

02:11:13.160 Yeah, so, I mean...

02:11:14.840 Can I ask a question?

02:11:16.860 Is it related to her?

02:11:18.320 Sure.

02:11:18.880 Okay, so, like, the whole, like, guys prefer a girl, it's a virgin thing,

02:11:22.240 but there's also...

02:11:22.640 Or low body count.

02:11:23.360 Or low body count, but there's also that...

02:11:25.160 I mean, in 2022, I don't think most men's expectations...

02:11:29.540 Right.

02:11:29.840 And certainly not mine or the girl's a virgin.

02:11:32.140 But there's also that, like, thing where it's just like,

02:11:35.860 oh, like, you know, you take a virginity,

02:11:38.160 like, they're going to be attached to you.

02:11:40.440 Like, is that not something...

02:11:41.220 Good.

02:11:42.240 No!

02:11:42.640 Be attached.

02:11:44.000 Be attached.

02:11:44.720 That's what I want.

02:11:46.980 But then that's also, like, a turn-off, is it not?

02:11:49.100 Not for me.

02:11:49.880 But, like...

02:11:50.340 Well, you're a special case, though.

02:11:52.340 Like, when it comes to, like...

02:11:54.300 Like, you like the stay-at-home, like, be attached, like you and me.

02:11:57.660 But, like, for other guys, just like, oh, cool, like, I took her virginity, now go away.

02:12:02.140 Like, you know, like, you can't have best of both worlds.

02:12:04.660 Um, I mean, she probably needs to...

02:12:09.040 If she's losing her virginity...

02:12:10.280 I mean, there's some girls that just...

02:12:12.040 Some girls just want to lose it.

02:12:13.320 Want to lose it to lose it, yeah.

02:12:14.480 But there's also, like...

02:12:15.440 I think it's, like, a study or something, like, you, like, lose it to that person.

02:12:18.720 Like, you have that attraction.

02:12:19.860 You have that link.

02:12:20.640 You have...

02:12:21.140 Like, same with, like...

02:12:22.220 That's why, like, in the Bible, they're, like...

02:12:24.280 Oh, like, wait until marriage to have, like, that sexual connection.

02:12:26.920 Because then, like, you guys are linked together type of thing.

02:12:30.540 That's a thing.

02:12:32.260 Does that not freak you guys out?

02:12:34.480 Like, you guys talk about...

02:12:35.360 No, I want a girl to be able to pair bond.

02:12:38.140 Oh.

02:12:38.840 Women who have been ran through by guys who have slept with a lot of people, and it does...

02:12:43.560 I think this also does impact men, but to a lesser degree.

02:12:47.160 Women who have slept with 100 men are...

02:12:49.560 Their ability to pair bond and fall in love with a guy...

02:12:53.560 It doesn't...

02:12:53.860 Is so fucking broken.

02:12:56.340 It's possible, but it's so warped.

02:12:58.700 It's rare.

02:12:59.280 If you've been incredibly promiscuous, and you've just treated sex extremely casually...

02:13:04.460 Listen, I want to make something clear.

02:13:05.600 You're free to do it.

02:13:06.960 I'm not saying we should impose some sort of restrictions on it.

02:13:09.780 You're free to do it.

02:13:11.040 But if you've slept with 100 men, you've hardwired towards short-term pleasure-seeking.

02:13:19.220 Relationships require long-term planning.

02:13:24.280 And so you're in the same way with, like, drugs.

02:13:27.100 If you take drugs, you are hardwiring your brain.

02:13:32.060 Or, like, TikTok.

02:13:32.880 I don't know if any of you have scrolled TikTok for three hours.

02:13:35.700 Try to read a book after you've just been scrolling on TikTok.

02:13:39.320 So we are rewiring our brains towards short-term pleasure-seeking and away from delayed gratification, let's just say.

02:13:49.480 And so, I don't know, I'm kind of rambling, but what was your...

02:13:55.480 I got my answers.

02:13:57.940 I was just kidding.

02:13:58.360 Oh, the virgin thing and, like...

02:14:00.080 But would you date a girl that, like, if you asked her...

02:14:01.940 I didn't mean to cut you off, too.

02:14:02.960 No, you're good.

02:14:03.380 But, like, if you asked the girl, like, you're, like, starting to see, like, I don't know, like, third date, whatever.

02:14:07.340 You guys are ready to sleep together.

02:14:08.280 Would you...

02:14:08.480 If you asked her, like, what's your body count, and she didn't tell you?

02:14:11.140 Like, I don't tell anybody my body count.

02:14:14.180 Even a guy that you were dating and he wanted to know?

02:14:17.780 If it's, like, a serious relationship, but if we're, like, three, four months in, no.

02:14:22.280 I just don't.

02:14:23.080 Wait, so what's the question?

02:14:23.960 Like, if you asked a girl, like, hey, what's your body count, and she didn't want to tell you, would that be your...

02:14:28.140 I would assume, I would start to assume things.

02:14:30.200 Yeah, but, like...

02:14:31.280 Then I'd probably start asking some, like, sneaky questions to kind of, like, get, okay, you know, I'd ask certain questions to try to suss it out a bit, you know?

02:14:43.000 Ever had a threesome?

02:14:44.260 Ever been poly?

02:14:46.920 You know, I'd start asking questions like that to kind of get a sense of it.

02:14:50.000 It might not be a guaranteed indicator, but you can definitely ask stuff like, jeez, I'm trying to remember.

02:14:55.100 I have a list here somewhere.

02:14:56.280 Hold on.

02:14:56.840 But go ahead.

02:14:57.560 Did you have more to add to that?

02:15:00.640 Okay.

02:15:01.280 But I agree with you with what you said before.

02:15:06.000 Like, I do think if you do, like, casual thing for a long time, or you just, like, take it as a part of your life, it does affect your ability to, you know, really care about somebody, like, really have building connections with others.

02:15:23.140 Because, I don't know, like, at the end of the day, everyone wants to be loved.

02:15:27.280 Everyone wants to build, like, the real connections.

02:15:29.360 So, the casual thing, just, like, if you do it for a long time, it just kind of, like, affect your, it's kind of, like, affect your mental health, I think.

02:15:38.200 I honestly, I think people that are engaged in just a bunch of casual sex, I think it's less the case for men, but, like, women who are just going out, just, hey, you're free to do it.

02:15:53.220 But they tend to be the most, I think they've done studies on this, they're the most depressed, most likely to be on antidepressants, most unhappy.

02:16:02.600 So, I don't think a girl that's, like, fucking a new guy every night, not every night, but, like, fucking a new guy every week is, like, happy.

02:16:13.740 I could be wrong.

02:16:15.560 I think she's just using it as a distraction.

02:16:18.100 I've seen the same thing in, like, men, like, especially, like, my guy friends, we're all around the same age, where they'll use sex in, like, a really negative, toxic way.

02:16:26.360 Like, I feel like, in a way, they're trying to cope for something, or maybe just distract themselves by, you know, doing this.

02:16:33.140 Yeah, we've all been through, well, I don't know if we've all been through that phase, but casually hooking up after a bad breakup, you're not happy, but I don't think it's the sex that's making you unhappy.

02:16:43.940 I think that's just what you're trying to cope with, and it's not healthy.

02:16:47.260 Sure.

02:16:48.140 Yeah.

02:16:48.340 I think, like, yeah, I think part of people, like, they know what they're doing, and they won't change, like, the situation right now, but they're just convinced themselves, like, oh, I'm just doing it for fun.

02:16:58.960 Like, I'm just, it's fine, it's okay, it's funny, but, like, in the deep of their heart, they want to change.

02:17:05.700 They want to, you know, they realize, like, the bad side of this, yeah.

02:17:11.580 Yeah, and I think as far as sussing out potential body count, one, it can, there's a comment here, like, you can kind of tell by the attitude.

02:17:21.180 Like, there's some indicators, you know, you can kind of get a feel for it.

02:17:24.540 Like, I mean, here's one, if she's going to bars every weekend, I'm going to start thinking, like, I'm already thinking a little, I mean, I could be wrong, I could be wrong, but, like, if you're, like, heavy into partying, heavy into drinking, drug use, I'm going to start, like, okay.

02:17:40.380 It's just a stereotype.

02:17:42.440 You know, like, I go out to bars, and people look at me crazy because I don't drink.

02:17:46.080 They're like, how are you doing this sober?

02:17:47.300 And I was like, well, I don't need to drink to go out and dance and have fun, but I get the crazy eyes, and I get, like, the why the hell are you sober?

02:17:56.380 Well, I mean, props to you for going out sober.

02:18:00.780 Honestly, especially here.

02:18:02.520 Yeah, see, I don't, I don't, I guess I just don't find it that weird, but I can understand that.

02:18:07.280 Like, you don't smoke weed?

02:18:08.820 I do, occasionally, but it's, like, once, like, it's very rare now, very rare now, but I didn't smoke weed until February.

02:18:16.140 I'm 21, and I come from Reno, Nevada, where it's, like, super popular, you know?

02:18:21.420 And honestly, so, asking for body count, I don't even think that's a good way, because I don't think you're going to get a real answer.

02:18:28.360 You're not going to get the answer you want, either, if you're asking.

02:18:30.200 She might not tell you.

02:18:31.540 She might lie.

02:18:33.120 She might not count this guy here or this guy here.

02:18:36.340 It was, you know, it was.

02:18:37.740 Just for a second, just to see how it feels.

02:18:40.820 You know.

02:18:41.040 There was the joke, like, for women, like, you only, like, count as many times as you finished.

02:18:46.140 I was, like, okay, well, I just, like, scaled it.

02:18:47.880 Yeah.

02:18:48.480 Right?

02:18:48.920 So, I was just, like, oh, I'm a virgin.

02:18:50.100 Oh, it's two.

02:18:51.500 Yeah.

02:18:52.080 So, I mean, yeah, I think it's honestly sometimes.

02:18:55.300 Plus, I don't think I would overtly ask a girl, unless it came up organically in conversation,

02:19:01.380 if we were just somehow, if we were already talking about it, talking about dating somehow,

02:19:08.400 maybe it could come up, but, yeah.

02:19:11.600 I mean, we could go around the table.

02:19:15.480 Well, it's just.

02:19:16.300 What's your body count?

02:19:16.720 It depends on, I'm kind of a tough case, because I, like, I have sex with men and women,

02:19:22.480 so, really, your definition of what sex is matters.

02:19:26.620 Well.

02:19:26.900 My definition.

02:19:27.600 How about, do you want to break it down between men and women?

02:19:30.140 With women, I just, it only matters is that we orgasm.

02:19:34.640 We're intimate.

02:19:34.720 Yeah.

02:19:35.160 Yeah.

02:19:35.420 And we're intimate.

02:19:36.420 Intimate.

02:19:37.380 And with guys, I would just say penetrative, because I'm like, if I gave you a blowjob,

02:19:41.760 we didn't have sex.

02:19:43.140 Right.

02:19:43.760 And so, 20.

02:19:45.520 That's my final answer, 20.

02:19:47.440 Total?

02:19:47.860 Total.

02:19:48.860 20 guys and?

02:19:50.100 No, no, no.

02:19:50.580 20 all together.

02:19:52.920 Okay.

02:19:53.460 Yeah.

02:19:54.260 Sydney?

02:19:55.140 I told you, I don't comment on mine.

02:19:59.700 Number 76, no excuses, play like a champion.

02:20:02.120 No excuses, play like a champion, Sydney.

02:20:04.140 I don't comment on mine.

02:20:05.500 Fair enough.

02:20:06.320 I'm a no commenter, as well.

02:20:08.740 I want to not comment, but I want to participate.

02:20:11.940 Do it.

02:20:12.560 Do it.

02:20:13.340 My body count is six.

02:20:15.440 Hey, that's totally respectable.

02:20:18.780 Respectable.

02:20:19.200 It's my body count, like.

02:20:20.640 Can we get a comment from you, too?

02:20:21.840 It's okay, I came out with 20, so.

02:20:23.080 No, it's okay.

02:20:24.380 Me?

02:20:24.980 Body count.

02:20:25.660 Two.

02:20:26.280 Two?

02:20:26.780 Okay, wow.

02:20:28.100 Wait, so, hold on.

02:20:29.100 Wait, hold on.

02:20:29.740 How about you?

02:20:30.760 Yeah, what's your body count?

02:20:32.620 So, wait, two?

02:20:34.140 Uh-huh.

02:20:35.480 And both of the guys were here in the U.S.?

02:20:38.740 Um, no.

02:20:39.660 Are you not counting the guys back in China?

02:20:41.740 No, no, like, in my life.

02:20:43.780 Okay.

02:20:44.220 Yeah.

02:20:44.500 But only two?

02:20:45.380 Yeah.

02:20:45.540 Because you said you have a boyfriend now.

02:20:47.600 Yeah.

02:20:47.900 And then you met an older gentleman.

02:20:50.520 I, like, in total, like, have two boyfriend.

02:20:53.880 So, one is this boyfriend, one is my ex-boyfriend.

02:20:58.980 Okay.

02:20:59.940 And, um, but, okay, make it clear, like, the guy who was, like, seven or eight years older

02:21:08.300 than me, that doesn't count as one of my boyfriends.

02:21:11.460 So, I don't, I didn't have sex with him.

02:21:13.480 Oh, okay.

02:21:13.880 So, like, it was, it was with my boyfriend from high school.

02:21:16.520 Okay, got it.

02:21:17.460 And that was back in China?

02:21:19.980 Yeah.

02:21:20.340 I see.

02:21:21.180 Okay.

02:21:21.340 Yeah.

02:21:21.860 Got it.

02:21:23.300 Okay.

02:21:25.740 You?

02:21:26.620 Yeah, what's your body count?

02:21:27.780 I'm not sharing.

02:21:28.620 Oh, see, how are you going to give us crap when you don't have a comment?

02:21:33.160 I didn't give you guys crap.

02:21:36.800 See, I, here's the thing.

02:21:37.860 I believe body count matters.

02:21:39.420 So, that's why I'm not going to share my body count.

02:21:41.200 Exactly.

02:21:41.700 How about you guys guess?

02:21:42.500 I'll have you, I'll let you guys guess.

02:21:44.700 20.

02:21:46.200 Can we get a, can we get a higher or a lower?

02:21:48.160 We'll go, we'll go around the table, so.

02:21:51.400 Uh, 25, 23 or 25.

02:21:55.420 I'm going to go four.

02:21:57.400 Four.

02:21:58.060 Okay.

02:21:58.780 I said it matters.

02:22:00.340 It does, it matters.

02:22:01.700 But you also don't like to throw, like, I don't know.

02:22:05.740 I don't, I just met him today.

02:22:06.800 I'm going to say 11.

02:22:08.540 I'm going to say 7 to 12.

02:22:11.040 Damn.

02:22:11.420 All right.

02:22:11.860 I'll say 14.

02:22:12.740 I think you had a hoe phase.

02:22:15.180 Can we get, like, a, like, a high ball level?

02:22:17.300 Like, who was closest?

02:22:19.000 No comment.

02:22:19.840 That's such bullshit.

02:22:21.580 No comment.

02:22:23.160 No comment.

02:22:24.360 I will, I can tell you this.

02:22:25.800 What, we could go around on this, like, age, lost virginity.

02:22:29.760 So, for me, it was 17.

02:22:31.180 It was 18.

02:22:32.620 16.

02:22:34.080 18.

02:22:35.740 15.

02:22:36.900 17.

02:22:38.140 Okay.

02:22:39.000 Boom.

02:22:40.020 Rock and roll.

02:22:40.700 Rock and roll.

02:22:41.760 Did we?

02:22:42.720 Oh, I'm sorry.

02:22:43.800 It's 18.

02:22:44.840 I'm sorry.

02:22:45.380 My brain just blinked.

02:22:47.080 It's fine.

02:22:47.400 Um, did, did we go around for everyone for final thought or question?

02:22:52.740 I don't know where.

02:22:53.860 I think you stopped at me.

02:22:54.580 Did I adequately address your, whoops.

02:22:57.340 Enough, yeah.

02:22:58.480 Okay.

02:22:59.160 Wait, hold on.

02:22:59.860 Actually, I do have one thing here.

02:23:01.260 All right, Sydney.

02:23:05.140 Oh, wow.

02:23:10.860 I'm detecting the body count.

02:23:14.000 Detecting the body count on both of you.

02:23:18.320 Sydney is 14.

02:23:19.560 I don't know what game you're playing.

02:23:23.820 I'm not answering that.

02:23:25.120 You wouldn't answer ours.

02:23:26.140 I'm no comment.

02:23:28.400 You.

02:23:28.960 I'm going to be that liar.

02:23:34.840 Seven.

02:23:38.820 She's got a good poker face.

02:23:40.120 So am I the slut?

02:23:41.740 Like, hold on.

02:23:42.360 I just want to know.

02:23:43.840 Damn.

02:23:44.300 Right.

02:23:45.340 Wait, I'm right.

02:23:46.160 What made you say 14 and seven?

02:23:47.720 Like, what was that?

02:23:48.260 Wait, did I?

02:23:48.720 No, I'm not.

02:23:49.240 I'm not answering.

02:23:49.700 So am I the slut if I'm like double hers?

02:23:51.960 What's going on with that?

02:23:53.060 What do you mean?

02:23:53.720 Like, why?

02:23:54.500 That's just what your, my guess is to your body count.

02:23:56.860 14 makes you a slut, Sydney?

02:24:01.080 No, not at all.

02:24:02.440 Support at all.

02:24:03.220 But like, why?

02:24:04.260 What makes you think mine's higher?

02:24:06.220 On the higher range?

02:24:07.960 Do I don't think I want to know the answer.

02:24:09.220 I mean, honestly, it's just the scouter.

02:24:11.580 Okay, sure.

02:24:12.900 It's not, you know.

02:24:14.200 Okay.

02:24:14.420 It's not a character judgment.

02:24:15.740 It's just what the scouter told me.

02:24:17.780 Okay.

02:24:18.860 Final thought or question?

02:24:21.440 For the panel, for me?

02:24:23.580 No.

02:24:26.240 Thanks.

02:24:26.860 No.

02:24:29.660 Okay.

02:24:30.200 Let me get some super chats here really quick, and then I think we'll end off with a video.

02:24:35.520 Okay.

02:24:36.160 We got Mike Davis with the $10 soup chat.

02:24:38.620 Hey, Mike.

02:24:39.000 Thank you so much, man.

02:24:39.760 Appreciate it.

02:24:40.960 Fellow kings, never get married.

02:24:42.380 While I've never broken up a marriage, I've prevented many.

02:24:45.600 I'd rather go to jury duty than ever attend a wedding.

02:24:50.180 Okay.

02:24:52.060 Mike Davis, have you ever been married?

02:24:53.960 I'm curious.

02:24:54.520 Mike Davis has not been roasting, by the way.

02:24:57.740 That's nice.

02:24:58.860 He usually, no.

02:24:59.900 I was hoping he'd roast.

02:25:00.800 He usually does.

02:25:01.420 It's like four a day.

02:25:04.340 Mike Davis.

02:25:05.660 But yeah, guys, don't get married.

02:25:06.940 It's a raw deal for men.

02:25:10.600 So you don't want to get married?

02:25:11.940 No.

02:25:12.440 I could have a life partner.

02:25:13.840 I could have a girl that I could, you know, be with forever.

02:25:18.160 So why not get married?

02:25:20.940 Why not get married?

02:25:22.860 It's like I said, it's a raw deal for men.

02:25:24.920 Men get washed in marriage.

02:25:29.000 What if she makes more?

02:25:30.480 Alimony.

02:25:31.060 She makes more?

02:25:32.060 Yeah.

02:25:32.280 Yeah.

02:25:34.600 Most women don't date down.

02:25:38.360 Most women are not going to want to date a guy that makes less than them.

02:25:41.780 But like you said, our generation, we have women who are making more money.

02:25:45.200 There's still women who would want to make money and have kids.

02:25:47.220 That's right.

02:25:47.560 There's going to be more stay-at-home fathers.

02:25:49.600 Well, what's going to happen is you're going to have a lot of single women because they're

02:25:52.680 not going to want to settle because they're going to look at all the guys.

02:25:55.720 They're going to be working their nice little office jobs and stuff.

02:25:59.100 They're going to look at all the men and be like, they're not good enough.

02:26:01.940 They're not economically attractive.

02:26:04.020 So there's going to be a lot of single women.

02:26:06.380 And correspondingly, there's going to be a lot of single men.

02:26:11.060 And yeah, I mean, marriage rates are on the decline.

02:26:15.140 Divorce rate.

02:26:15.780 By the way, divorce.

02:26:17.080 Here's a reason not to get married.

02:26:18.880 The divorce rate is fucking crazy.

02:26:22.960 And 80% of divorces are initiated by women.

02:26:27.760 Especially over the COVID lockdown.

02:26:30.300 The COVID lockdown like spikes divorces because they're all trapped at home.

02:26:34.500 Yeah.

02:26:35.120 You need to know your partner.

02:26:36.460 Like know your partner.

02:26:37.680 Yeah.

02:26:37.980 So also like don't enter into a contract or agreement when the other party is rewarded for breaking it.

02:26:47.100 If a woman wants to get divorced, she gets her money.

02:26:55.100 Just have a prenup sign.

02:26:56.600 Why don't you just get married and have a prenup sign.

02:26:57.560 Prenups get thrown out all the time.

02:27:00.000 A prenup will not protect you.

02:27:02.320 I think if done correctly.

02:27:05.280 I mean, a lot of it's I've heard a lot of stories like prenups.

02:27:09.820 Like I think Dr. Dre had a prenup with I don't know her name.

02:27:15.940 Do you know his wife's name?

02:27:17.620 Dr. Dre's wife.

02:27:18.660 If he had a prenup, the prenup got thrown out.

02:27:21.800 And I assume Dr. Dre had exceptional attorneys when he got married.

02:27:26.000 He certainly could have afforded it.

02:27:27.820 So yeah, you I mean, if you're the breadwinner as a guy, I mean, you should not get married.

02:27:35.200 And if the woman's a breadwinner, she probably ain't dating you.

02:27:39.120 And so there's that.

02:27:41.700 But yeah, I mean, women, it's it's not even women.

02:27:45.400 It's just whoever is not the breadwinner.

02:27:49.100 There's a very note.

02:27:52.060 There's no fault divorce.

02:27:53.220 Right.

02:27:54.600 So they can just divorce you and then get alimony.

02:27:58.740 You'll have to pay this person who has just divorced you.

02:28:01.660 They're going to get the house.

02:28:02.520 They're going to, you know, so I don't think people should get married.

02:28:05.780 By the way, what like, don't get the government involved with your relationship.

02:28:12.180 Does anyone here trust the government?

02:28:14.400 No.

02:28:15.300 Then then you're just putting money into lawyers pockets.

02:28:18.260 So I'm not saying don't have a nuclear family.

02:28:22.120 I think it'd be great.

02:28:23.680 I think we should get back to having nuclear families, men and women staying together,

02:28:28.080 raising kids.

02:28:28.900 But I think marriage is the way the laws are now.

02:28:32.760 Marriage is not good for men.

02:28:35.780 I think it depends on why you why you personally get choose to get married.

02:28:39.280 So are you Christian?

02:28:40.400 Yes.

02:28:40.900 OK, so I can see that.

02:28:42.260 So you have a religious component.

02:28:43.880 Yeah.

02:28:44.400 To it.

02:28:45.300 But.

02:28:46.780 Do you think marriage is better for men in the past?

02:28:51.700 I mean, marriage was better for men in the past.

02:28:55.300 And I think for a couple of reasons, I I'm not super familiar on how the laws have changed

02:29:00.620 when it comes to marriage, but what I do know is that broadly speaking in the past to be

02:29:09.300 a divorcee or to get a divorce, especially within the religions was severely frowned upon.

02:29:15.980 I think Catholics still like probably, I mean, I don't know what's going on with Catholics,

02:29:21.460 but it is severely frowned upon to get divorced.

02:29:28.220 But now.

02:29:30.440 So that you had a social pressure to stay with that partner.

02:29:35.700 But now it's kind of willy nilly.

02:29:38.100 Oh, you know, they.

02:29:40.500 You're upset with them for this or that.

02:29:43.160 And then.

02:29:45.020 Yeah.

02:29:48.560 You wanted to come in on this maybe?

02:29:50.440 No, no.

02:29:51.840 OK, I think we got to end it.

02:29:54.680 I want to end it with two videos or wait.

02:29:57.180 No, hold on.

02:29:57.780 I want to bring it back really quick to Leo, Leonardo DiCaprio, because I don't think we

02:30:05.020 fully went into the age gap thing and I want to get into it very briefly before we end the

02:30:10.340 video.

02:30:12.260 So.

02:30:14.940 Men like younger women.

02:30:17.500 Do you guys object to that?

02:30:20.580 Y'all are too easy.

02:30:21.680 Come on.

02:30:22.540 Come on.

02:30:23.280 Devil's advocate me here.

02:30:24.520 Not all men.

02:30:25.580 I stand by like what I said about the whole like guys think like cougars are hot and

02:30:30.840 like milfs are hot.

02:30:31.820 But I do agree with what you said about the whole like 19 to 25.

02:30:36.560 I feel like it's like the like younger men like 20 to 28 like older.

02:30:42.320 But then older men like 40s to 50s like younger.

02:30:45.360 I think it's also playing on that like you want what you can't have.

02:30:48.360 I mean, you can't have it, but like it's not going to be as socially accepted to have

02:30:52.640 it.

02:30:53.100 Yeah.

02:30:54.100 OK.

02:30:54.380 Yeah, I mean, just to touch on the age gap thing.

02:30:59.040 So it comes down to a couple of things and similar to the body count thing.

02:31:03.620 It's also a really quick on the body count.

02:31:07.020 So another reason why men value low body count in women is and they've done studies on this.

02:31:13.060 Someone who's promiscuous is more likely to cheat on you.

02:31:16.400 Um, and as far as marriages go, um, the more partners that you had before going into that

02:31:24.100 marriage, the greater likelihood of reporting relationship to dissatisfaction and the greater

02:31:29.500 likelihood of divorce.

02:31:31.500 And they've done like they've done, uh, analysis, they've done studies on it.

02:31:35.500 So the higher your body count, and this is more so for women than it is for men, the greater likelihood of infidelity, the greater likelihood of the relationship breaking up, the divorce, and just the greater likelihood of relationship dissatisfaction.

02:31:50.160 Do you know what that same statistic is for men?

02:31:53.580 Um, I'm not sure.

02:31:55.740 We do have the infographics.

02:31:57.600 Oh, wait.

02:31:58.020 That reminds me.

02:31:58.800 OK, Eric, we have to...

02:32:00.600 Age gap.

02:32:03.060 OK.

02:32:03.560 Age gap really quick.

02:32:04.400 Then we have to react to a few things from Hinge, the dating app.

02:32:07.240 OK, so there's an evolutionary thing for evolutionary reason why men have a preference for younger women.

02:32:20.700 So one of those things is fertility.

02:32:24.360 So something that, and this is evolutionary, biologically ingrained, men look for indicators of youth and fertility.

02:32:31.500 So if you're 40, the likelihood that you can, one, get pregnant, two, bring that child to term, and three, have a healthy baby, are so significantly diminished.

02:32:43.660 So it's an evolutionary thing.

02:32:46.280 We are just hardwired to find younger women attractive.

02:32:50.740 Keyword, women there.

02:32:51.800 And because by the time you're 35, that's when you're starting to get into higher chance of miscarriage, higher chance that there's birth defects, and greater difficulty even just getting pregnant.

02:33:11.800 So there's evolutionary reasons there.

02:33:14.100 And also it's just, as a guy, you can also just think of it in your head.

02:33:17.740 And let's say you're 35, or let's say you're 40 as a guy.

02:33:23.120 You can date a 40-year-old, and let's say you really want to have kids.

02:33:29.960 She's 40, like, you're not having kids.

02:33:33.140 The likelihood is so small that you're going to be able to have kids with her.

02:33:38.220 So most men who are 40, they might be looking more towards someone who's 30, for example.

02:33:43.520 A guy who's 35 might be looking for someone who's 25.

02:33:46.100 But if we're being realistic in the pool of casually dating, how often are men looking at a younger woman and thinking, oh, she's the most fit to reproduce with and have kids with?

02:33:58.380 Like, that's only something you're thinking about if you're thinking about marrying this person or being with this person long term.

02:34:02.900 So that is a fair point.

02:34:04.040 So, one, it is, so, it is an evolutionary thing.

02:34:09.240 So even though a guy can intellectually think, hey, I just want to hook up with this girl once, maybe she could be on birth control, we're going to use a condom.

02:34:17.460 There's no chance or very low chance of a pregnancy here.

02:34:21.140 I don't want a kid.

02:34:22.120 And it's still, like, in our minds, it's still, like, we want someone who's young for fertility reasons.

02:34:30.320 In the same way that there are evolutionary things that women look for that, if you were to intellectualize it, like, this would have no bearing on this person in terms of them being a good partner for you.

02:34:48.620 For example, height is one.

02:34:50.840 I mean, we can go around really quick, articulate to me why, and maybe some of you don't have a height preference, but articulate to me why.

02:35:00.740 Well, first, let me ask, do you, for a guy, do you care about his height?

02:35:06.220 Actually, wait, I just want to start over here first.

02:35:08.540 Well, just because you're bi, so I just want to, do you care about the guy's height?

02:35:14.120 I think we talked about this, actually.

02:35:16.340 So you said your height or taller?

02:35:18.800 Yeah.

02:35:19.160 Would you date a guy who's shorter than you?

02:35:22.860 Possible, if we're really, like, a good match, or, like, he's really attractive on, like, personality and other, you know.

02:35:31.360 Okay.

02:35:31.740 Yeah.

02:35:32.400 But it would be a bit of a con if he was shorter than you.

02:35:36.660 Yeah, just, like, physically.

02:35:38.240 I just think, like, guys, yeah.

02:35:40.580 Okay, go ahead.

02:35:42.100 Height does matter to an extent.

02:35:43.620 I think you, when I see, I'm 5'4 1⁄2".

02:35:46.960 5'5 on a good day.

02:35:48.220 Okay.

02:35:49.160 As long as you're noticeably taller than me, I'm chilling.

02:35:52.700 I don't have, like, a, oh, you have to be at least 6'1".

02:35:55.860 Like, I think that's a little shallow.

02:35:59.000 But, yeah, if I were, would I date someone shorter than me?

02:36:02.960 What's your minimum height for a guy?

02:36:05.040 Because you're 5'4".

02:36:05.680 What's your minimum height?

02:36:06.680 5'5".

02:36:07.220 5'5".

02:36:11.300 Okay.

02:36:12.460 Hey, props.

02:36:13.980 Yeah.

02:36:14.620 Let me ask, just out of curiosity, how many, you've been in a long-term relationship before?

02:36:19.200 How many, like, relationships have you had, would you say?

02:36:24.840 Okay, what are we defining as relationships?

02:36:26.360 Like, let's just say you've seen a guy for long, okay, this isn't really a relationship, but of the guys that you've seen for longer than a month, let's just say, how many guys would you say?

02:36:35.640 Um, four, five, three?

02:36:39.880 Nah, definitely only, like, one other guy.

02:36:42.280 One guy?

02:36:43.300 Well, the long-term relationship and then another guy.

02:36:45.880 Okay, how tall were they?

02:36:47.540 He was 5'10".

02:36:49.920 Okay.

02:36:50.740 My long-term relationship, he was probably around the same height, 5'9", 5'10".

02:36:56.160 Okay.

02:36:57.900 Height definitely matters to me, I think.

02:37:00.060 How tall are you?

02:37:00.920 I'm 5'11", so I'm very tall.

02:37:02.880 Um, I think, it doesn't matter, like, if you're, I don't, you don't need to be, like, 6'5", 6'6", but as long as you're either, I was gonna say 5'11", or above, but I think 6'5", or above, so at least an inch taller than me.

02:37:14.820 Okay.

02:37:15.340 So you'll be taller than the guy in heels, that's okay?

02:37:18.320 Yeah, I don't really wear heels.

02:37:19.280 You don't care?

02:37:19.820 Okay.

02:37:20.000 That's fine.

02:37:20.460 Sydney?

02:37:22.280 No, height doesn't matter to me, because I'm 5'0", so, like.

02:37:25.880 You're 5'0"?

02:37:26.580 Yeah.

02:37:27.540 So I don't really know any guys that are shorter than me.

02:37:31.480 Like, I've been.

02:37:31.700 So what, what is the minimum height for you?

02:37:35.060 Like, 5, I don't know, 5'5", is good, 5'2", like, it doesn't, height isn't something that I, like, look at when I see a guy, honestly.

02:37:42.140 The last guy you hooked up with, how tall was he?

02:37:45.480 5'7".

02:37:46.560 Okay.

02:37:47.260 Wait, and are you currently in a relationship?

02:37:49.840 Yeah.

02:37:50.300 How tall is he?

02:37:51.200 6'3".

02:37:52.300 Okay.

02:37:53.160 Damn.

02:37:53.600 There you go.

02:37:54.160 You are tall, though, so.

02:37:55.060 Yeah, I am.

02:37:55.600 I don't mind dating a guy who's, like, in my eyesight range.

02:38:02.620 Like, if I can look to you eye to eye in a way I don't have to, like, bend down to see you, that's fine.

02:38:08.760 How tall are you?

02:38:09.640 I'm 5'8".

02:38:10.420 Well, Goddard said that she was 5'8".

02:38:13.240 So I feel like maybe I am shrinking.

02:38:16.300 But I've dated shorter guys, and they've just been insecure.

02:38:20.740 Like, they'll have a problem when I wear heels.

02:38:23.120 And I felt like if they could confidently, like, be with me and not feel weird about that without me having to sacrifice parts of myself, it would be okay.

02:38:31.320 But I feel like for taller women, it's harder to date short guys who are comfortable with that.

02:38:37.160 Okay.

02:38:37.600 There's a whole lot of cap at this table.

02:38:39.200 I think if I was taller, no, I would definitely care a lot more about height, like, have a requirement.

02:38:44.760 But being, like, an average height, I'm not too picky as long as you're taller.

02:38:50.800 I have gone on a date with a guy that was shorter than me.

02:38:53.520 And I'm 5'0".

02:38:54.440 I have too.

02:38:55.200 So, like, that says something.

02:38:57.420 Like, you know, I don't.

02:38:58.940 For me, like, I'm in the gym every day.

02:39:00.400 I more so look at, like, if I'm looking appearance-wise, I like eyes, I like smiles, and I like a big back.

02:39:05.120 Like, that's what I.

02:39:06.200 A big back.

02:39:06.960 Yeah, I like, like, a muscle back.

02:39:08.880 Because I used to bodybuild.

02:39:10.000 So when I was in those days, like, that's something that, like, that catches my eye.

02:39:13.480 Here's an easier question I can ask.

02:39:15.980 Would you, do you want your guy to be physically larger than?

02:39:21.140 Yes.

02:39:22.920 Yes.

02:39:23.680 Yes.

02:39:25.480 Yes, or similar.

02:39:26.600 I think.

02:39:26.940 I like him lanky.

02:39:28.700 Oh.

02:39:29.800 Lanky.

02:39:30.340 You're like a little skeleton.

02:39:32.300 Okay.

02:39:32.580 It's either that or, like, a nice dad bods.

02:39:35.280 But the in-between is where I'm kind of losing interest.

02:39:36.580 Those are two different things.

02:39:38.360 I know.

02:39:38.780 It's weird.

02:39:39.440 I don't care about physically bigger, but at least stronger than me.

02:39:42.060 Stronger than you.

02:39:42.800 That's another one.

02:39:43.560 I like something bigger.

02:39:44.520 Do you want a guy who's physically stronger than you?

02:39:47.200 Yeah.

02:39:47.660 Definitely.

02:39:48.120 Because I'm pretty weak, I think.

02:39:50.080 Okay.

02:39:51.360 Yes.

02:39:52.380 Yes.

02:39:53.120 Yeah.

02:39:54.100 It doesn't matter.

02:39:55.440 Okay.

02:39:56.020 I got it.

02:39:56.820 But so, I mean, all these things, you know, the height, being physically larger, being physically

02:40:01.920 stronger, these things don't really have an impact on who this person is as a person and

02:40:08.760 their ability to be a good partner to you.

02:40:11.160 So, in that same vein, like, that's just how, as far as evolutionary, that's how men feel

02:40:18.720 about age and body count.

02:40:21.600 But men also feel that way about our physical appearance.

02:40:24.200 Do they care if we're smaller than them for the most part or, like, fit?

02:40:28.040 Yeah.

02:40:28.240 Men care about, yeah, men care about that stuff, too.

02:40:31.440 Sure.

02:40:31.820 Yeah.

02:40:32.300 And I think that definitely overpowers the, like, I think you keep talking about the evolutionary

02:40:36.620 part, but that's not something that we're actively thinking about.

02:40:40.760 You know what I mean?

02:40:41.220 No, but it's, it's like innate.

02:40:43.340 Yeah, I understand that.

02:40:44.240 Yeah.

02:40:44.500 And it's innate for me to want to have as much kids as I can, to reproduce as much as I

02:40:48.420 can.

02:40:48.480 How many kids do you want?

02:40:49.720 Six.

02:40:50.480 Six kids.

02:40:52.160 Okay.

02:40:52.480 You're going to have some tall babies.

02:40:54.700 I love kids, though.

02:40:55.380 I want to be a pediatrician.

02:40:56.940 Oh, shit.

02:40:57.420 I love kids.

02:40:58.020 Nice.

02:40:58.400 Good.

02:40:58.820 No, that's good.

02:40:59.700 And it seems like your head's definitely in the right place as far as, I mean, you know,

02:41:04.700 sounds like you want to have a family, a husband.

02:41:09.120 So, six kids.

02:41:10.600 Congrats.

02:41:10.920 That's a lot.

02:41:13.120 Did you?

02:41:13.920 How does the evolutionary aspect work when it comes to, like, age?

02:41:18.680 No, just like me, because I like boys and girls, so, like, evolution-wise, there shouldn't

02:41:25.180 be much that attracts me to other women.

02:41:27.920 Well, I'm not saying that our biology or our evolution is a, the sole determining factor.

02:41:36.700 And it's evident that there are people that are not straight.

02:41:42.340 I mean, I think that's, you know, duh.

02:41:44.580 But, so, I don't.

02:41:49.860 So, I feel like we should have something else to be defining what makes us behave in a certain

02:41:54.700 way socially and romantically.

02:41:56.680 Because, at the end of the day, that's, like, it doesn't, it doesn't work well in multiple

02:42:01.500 cases.

02:42:02.580 Well, I would say.

02:42:03.240 Unless you're talking about the straight.

02:42:04.060 So, I mean, I would say that, that, that is an outlier situation, though, to be bisexual.

02:42:11.920 I mean, if you line up most people, most people are heterosexual.

02:42:17.720 And most people probably fall fairly into line with, I mean, if you ask most women, most

02:42:23.740 women are going to say, I would like to date a guy who's taller.

02:42:26.680 And if, I think if you ask most men, they're going to say, I want someone that's younger

02:42:32.060 and has a low body count.

02:42:34.560 You're making me sad to date.

02:42:37.020 Why, why does it make you sad?

02:42:38.480 Like, I'm a relationship girl.

02:42:41.220 I like to be in a relationship.

02:42:42.560 But everything, like, the whole, like, body count standards, like, this, this, this, like,

02:42:47.920 it's, damn.

02:42:49.400 There's guys that don't care.

02:42:50.780 I know.

02:42:51.420 But not even just about the body count.

02:42:53.220 It's just, like, there's so much.

02:42:54.500 It's, like, stacking up.

02:42:55.580 It's, like, I'm never going to, I'm never going to date at this point.

02:42:58.940 Shit.

02:42:59.780 It's making me sad.

02:43:01.780 What, what specifically is making you sad?

02:43:03.760 Just everything.

02:43:04.600 It's just, like, it's all stacking up.

02:43:05.560 It's, like, oh, well, guys want this, and, like, girls have this, and this standard, and

02:43:08.300 this standard, and this, and it's, like, it's to, like, fit all of this in, like, one

02:43:11.600 person.

02:43:12.560 Well, I mean, I would actually argue that men have very, very few standards.

02:43:18.660 Yeah, but you have to be able to find, like, what you want in a person.

02:43:21.880 What?

02:43:22.580 Her reaction.

02:43:24.040 I'm sorry.

02:43:25.200 But, okay, you disagree.

02:43:26.580 Go ahead.

02:43:26.860 Very much disagree.

02:43:27.640 So, you think men have too high expectations?

02:43:31.900 I think men have more standards in the sense of, like, in physical standards, but I think

02:43:36.340 women have more standards pertaining to.

02:43:38.240 I actually, I actually, this is going to be a hot take.

02:43:40.420 I actually disagree with you on that.

02:43:41.940 You think that men have.

02:43:42.960 I think women have higher physical standards for men than do men have for women.

02:43:47.900 I agree.

02:43:48.460 And I'll tell you why.

02:43:49.300 I'll tell you why.

02:43:49.880 So, there's two metrics that men have to meet that women don't really have to compete

02:43:57.520 on.

02:43:57.820 So, for example, height, right?

02:43:59.780 So, men don't, men will date a woman who's tall.

02:44:02.540 They'll date a short.

02:44:03.060 I mean, most tall women aren't going to date a guy shorter than them, but, like, they would,

02:44:07.860 I'm six feet.

02:44:09.460 I'll date a girl who's six five.

02:44:10.920 I don't care.

02:44:12.960 I will say I do have a preference for short women.

02:44:16.560 If her height doesn't start with four, she ain't the one.

02:44:18.780 But, uh, but I, I'll date a woman who's five nine.

02:44:23.520 I'll date a woman who's five four.

02:44:24.640 I'll date a woman who's four 11, right?

02:44:27.340 Height, we don't care.

02:44:28.540 So, right there, that's already a metric.

02:44:31.740 I've just experienced so much of the opposite.

02:44:34.340 I think especially growing up.

02:44:35.640 Yeah.

02:44:36.520 That, like, it kind of feels like just based off of my height, like, I'm off the field

02:44:40.940 for a lot of guys.

02:44:42.040 I feel like that's also a maturity thing, though.

02:44:43.620 Like, we're in college.

02:44:44.640 Like, guys are weird.

02:44:45.520 Height is, like, very low on the totem pole of a reason why a guy would disqualify a woman.

02:44:52.540 And there's a much wider range of what, okay, so there's height.

02:44:56.940 There's also penis size.

02:45:01.460 That's, that's a thing, right?

02:45:04.060 That's, that's another bodily metric.

02:45:06.500 But we can't tell that until we're fucking you.

02:45:08.220 Yeah, but if it ain't, if it, I mean, there's some, we can, you better learn how to make

02:45:13.620 it work.

02:45:15.840 For a lot of women, if it's, sometimes it's not up to, anyways.

02:45:19.980 It's kind of like the same, like, breast and things like that.

02:45:23.700 All right, we'll go around.

02:45:24.900 You can't help it.

02:45:25.560 You do what you do with what you got.

02:45:27.280 Did you say, what'd you say?

02:45:28.500 With, like, breast.

02:45:29.640 Guys don't care.

02:45:31.320 We don't really, we'll, we're happy if they're small.

02:45:33.600 Actually, I prefer smaller breasts, but.

02:45:35.540 But guys care ass.

02:45:36.560 Big boobs are nice, too.

02:45:38.200 Ass, that is true.

02:45:39.840 That is, I think, guys like a nice ass.

02:45:42.500 But, you know, okay, so, we can go around really quick on this.

02:45:47.580 So, does size matter?

02:45:52.340 Talking about the peen.

02:45:56.220 No, because I could be fine if you didn't have one.

02:45:59.500 There's other ways to make me come.

02:46:00.400 I should have started over here.

02:46:04.780 There's other ways to make a girl come.

02:46:06.280 I chose the wrong girl for that, yeah.

02:46:07.300 I know, I should have, go ahead, Sydney.

02:46:08.640 No, it doesn't matter to me.

02:46:10.120 I mean, like she said, like, there's.

02:46:11.600 Size doesn't matter?

02:46:12.760 No, like, there's other ways, like, we can do, like, other things.

02:46:15.660 Like, it doesn't.

02:46:16.580 What if he doesn't want to go down on you?

02:46:18.280 Yeah.

02:46:18.800 Oh, Harry, no.

02:46:20.400 Okay, we can talk about that.

02:46:21.780 Red flag, no matter how.

02:46:22.680 But really quick, let's finish that off.

02:46:24.060 Does size matter?

02:46:25.540 No, I wouldn't, no.

02:46:28.280 I'm going to say it, yeah.

02:46:30.080 You don't have to be, like, Mandingo, but, like, you got to have something, like, something.

02:46:36.080 There's, like, other ones, though.

02:46:37.460 I know.

02:46:37.860 I know there's other ways, but, like, me personally, I need you to have a little package.

02:46:43.540 What?

02:46:43.820 A little package?

02:46:44.920 Not a little package.

02:46:45.300 I think you mean a big package.

02:46:46.160 You got a package.

02:46:47.580 Yeah.

02:46:47.880 Can you give us, like, to the camera, like, uh.

02:46:50.640 Where's the camera?

02:46:51.240 Which one?

02:46:51.720 That one?

02:46:52.200 Put it on.

02:46:54.080 Oh, okay.

02:46:54.660 Why is it curved?

02:46:55.560 I wasn't ready.

02:46:56.040 I wasn't ready.

02:46:56.540 I wasn't ready.

02:46:56.560 You're curving your hand.

02:46:57.040 Girl, have you.

02:46:58.180 The curves we hit.

02:46:59.420 Anyway.

02:46:59.860 Can we.

02:47:00.940 What?

02:47:01.460 Where are we at?

02:47:02.680 What is that, like, five?

02:47:03.660 That's, like, six?

02:47:04.580 That's, like, average.

02:47:06.100 Yeah.

02:47:06.660 Six is average.

02:47:07.400 Six is a solid size.

02:47:09.500 Okay.

02:47:10.020 Yeah, average is fine.

02:47:11.000 Sorry.

02:47:12.020 Girth?

02:47:12.560 Girth?

02:47:12.840 Okay.

02:47:14.680 Go ahead.

02:47:15.600 Me, for me, it doesn't matter.

02:47:17.300 The first thing is, like, I don't think I have much experience and knowledge about it.

02:47:22.780 And then another.

02:47:23.680 About penises?

02:47:25.420 Yes, I would say.

02:47:27.200 And another thing is, I think the more important is about, like, feeling.

02:47:31.880 You know, like, the little touch and stuff is more important than that.

02:47:36.180 Okay.

02:47:37.000 So, I want to touch on a couple things.

02:47:39.800 But just to wrap up the talk about how I think I challenged you on me thinking that women actually are more picky physically than men are.

02:47:50.700 Here's my argument.

02:47:51.620 The body fat percentage range that men will find attractive in women is far wider than the body fat percentage range that women find attractive in men.

02:48:06.060 So, for example, for women, you have, like, petite, thin, like, model chicks, rail, rail thin, I don't know, all the way to, like, thick, curvy.

02:48:18.500 That's a very wide range, whereas for a man to be, like, for his body to be physically attractive.

02:48:27.360 I think that body fat range is bigger for y'all towards us because our fat, just, like, our asses being fat is attractive to you.

02:48:36.120 So, that body fat percentage goes up automatically.

02:48:38.660 But that's what I'm saying, the body fat percentage range that men find attractive in women, it's a wider range than the body fat percentage range that women find attractive in men.

02:48:50.120 And that makes sense.

02:48:51.560 Do you see what I'm saying?

02:48:53.040 So, are you just proving my point or are you, I'm just confused?

02:48:56.940 No, I'm saying it makes sense that the body fat percentage range is bigger for you guys, like, towards us.

02:49:02.880 Okay.

02:49:03.340 Because our fat distributes differently.

02:49:04.540 Like, our thighs being thick, you might like.

02:49:06.200 But, like, if I'm, like, I might not like you having thick thighs, but that's attractive to you on us, if you get what I mean.

02:49:13.340 So, you agree with me?

02:49:15.180 Sure.

02:49:15.980 Okay.

02:49:17.980 Did you want to come in?

02:49:19.200 I'm going to be honest.

02:49:20.620 I wasn't initially attracted to, like, dad bods and things like that or men who are a little bit heavier.

02:49:29.840 But once I gave it a chance, I realized that there was really no, like, big difference.

02:49:34.220 In fact, I kind of like it just for the cuddle's sake, because there's more of you.

02:49:39.500 But I know that not everybody is that way.

02:49:44.380 Word.

02:49:45.640 Word.

02:49:46.180 Okay.

02:49:46.400 So, where were we?

02:49:50.720 We were talking about.

02:49:51.500 Leonardo DiCaprio.

02:49:52.820 We were talking about.

02:49:53.160 And then we got on penis size.

02:49:54.740 Oh, well, yeah.

02:49:55.180 Okay.

02:49:55.320 So, the other thing is, as far as the age thing goes, if she's younger, probably body count's

02:50:03.080 going to be lower, too.

02:50:04.340 She's also just going to be more physically attractive.

02:50:06.300 And also, if she's younger, she's going to be less jaded.

02:50:10.960 So, a woman who's 35, trust me, I've dated some of them.

02:50:17.420 They're jaded as fuck.

02:50:18.920 What do you mean by jaded?

02:50:20.020 Jaded.

02:50:20.700 Like, how many times has their heart been broken?

02:50:24.200 Oh, I love that song.

02:50:25.580 You know, and just.

02:50:27.260 Tired.

02:50:27.660 So, okay.

02:50:30.460 We're going to move off of that.

02:50:33.040 We went a bit long.

02:50:34.220 We're going to wrap up very soon.

02:50:36.860 Watch us go another 30 minutes.

02:50:40.000 I brought this up before.

02:50:44.020 And y'all kind of freaked out a little bit.

02:50:47.700 Is it a deal breaker if a guy won't go down on you?

02:50:51.140 What?

02:50:51.960 Is it a deal breaker if a guy won't go down on you?

02:50:54.200 Uh, what does exactly mean deal breaker?

02:50:58.520 Uh, like.

02:50:59.440 Yeah, let her do that.

02:51:00.440 Let her do that.

02:51:01.720 Deal breaker.

02:51:02.760 It's like a red flag.

02:51:04.360 Immediately a red flag.

02:51:05.500 You don't want to date that person.

02:51:06.440 No, she meant the.

02:51:08.180 Deal breaker.

02:51:08.600 It breaks the deal.

02:51:10.260 Uh.

02:51:11.020 Do you know what going down on you means?

02:51:12.400 No.

02:51:12.820 Yeah, yeah.

02:51:13.540 I.

02:51:14.000 No.

02:51:14.920 I don't understand why that would be a red flag.

02:51:17.400 But, yeah.

02:51:18.240 No.

02:51:18.960 So, the guy doesn't want to go down on you?

02:51:22.120 You don't mind?

02:51:23.200 Yeah.

02:51:23.700 Okay.

02:51:25.200 Um.

02:51:25.960 Deal breaker?

02:51:26.660 That he doesn't want to or that he doesn't?

02:51:29.040 Both.

02:51:30.000 I think if he doesn't, it's not an immediate deal breaker for me.

02:51:32.640 But, if he doesn't want to, that's a deal breaker.

02:51:34.700 Because, what?

02:51:35.520 Yeah.

02:51:35.980 Yeah.

02:51:36.360 Can I add something like, yeah, I don't understand yet.

02:51:39.380 That's a deal breaker.

02:51:40.740 That's a little kind of weird.

02:51:43.480 Okay.

02:51:43.820 Yeah.

02:51:44.780 I think it's a deal breaker, 100%.

02:51:46.640 Only if I'm, if you expect me to go down or, like, to give you head and you're not willing

02:51:52.760 to return it, then I think it's a deal breaker.

02:51:55.740 Especially if I'm in a committed relationship with you.

02:51:58.500 Yeah.

02:51:58.820 I agree with that.

02:51:59.740 But, I'm also, like, oh, I'm going to expose myself.

02:52:02.540 I'm, like, like, it should be, like, a freaky relationship.

02:52:05.960 Like, if we're dating, like, I want all of it.

02:52:09.060 Like, why, you know?

02:52:10.600 No, I'm with you.

02:52:11.420 Like, yeah.

02:52:11.740 Like, I want all of it.

02:52:13.680 Like, and I'm, like, always down to give it.

02:52:15.060 But, like, if you're not, like, doing it too, like.

02:52:17.640 It's fun.

02:52:18.360 Like, I'm not going to be mad at you if you don't want to do it.

02:52:22.780 No, I am going to be mad.

02:52:23.820 But, like, I'm not going to stop myself from doing it because I think it's fun.

02:52:28.120 I agree.

02:52:28.660 I think it's fun to do it.

02:52:29.580 But, like, don't, don't be.

02:52:31.980 Yeah.

02:52:36.300 Yeah, you have to be able to eat pussy.

02:52:38.060 That's just, like.

02:52:38.680 It's just, it's, for a lot of women, that's the only way that they can even come.

02:52:43.020 So, like, if you're not eating pussy and you're into women, you're doing something wrong.

02:52:48.280 Yeah, I feel like you should find pleasure in pleasuring me.

02:52:50.600 Like, aren't you attracted to that?

02:52:52.160 Yeah.

02:52:52.760 Or, I don't know.

02:52:55.140 I just think it's weird.

02:52:55.980 Like, what are you, afraid of it?

02:52:57.620 I actually know some guys, some of my friends have mentioned this to me.

02:53:00.900 When they're doing hookups, they refuse to go down on a girl unless it's in a relationship.

02:53:04.640 I've heard that too.

02:53:05.500 That I don't understand.

02:53:07.840 I do.

02:53:08.200 What's up?

02:53:08.420 I don't get it.

02:53:09.260 I really don't understand the point of it.

02:53:11.200 I understand that.

02:53:12.740 I don't.

02:53:13.360 I get it.

02:53:14.000 I get it.

02:53:14.280 I get it.

02:53:14.720 Yeah.

02:53:15.080 I don't.

02:53:15.640 I'll tell you why.

02:53:16.460 Yeah.

02:53:16.740 I'll tell you why.

02:53:17.560 Because, like, you'll make out with this, like, random chick at a party who's, like,

02:53:20.860 sucking on her neck, but, like, you won't.

02:53:22.640 Who's what?

02:53:23.280 Who's, like, on her neck.

02:53:24.560 Nick?

02:53:25.120 Nicotine.

02:53:25.720 Right?

02:53:26.060 Oh, okay.

02:53:27.600 I don't do that, so I don't know.

02:53:28.960 But, like.

02:53:30.680 Yeah, I don't know.

02:53:31.580 I don't know.

02:53:31.800 I'll tell you why.

02:53:32.220 That, to me, is weird.

02:53:33.400 I will tell you why.

02:53:34.560 I'll tell you why guys don't want to, I mean, in that specific scenario, they don't want

02:53:40.300 to do it, just some hookup, or they want to wait until they're in a relationship.

02:53:47.500 Kind of goes back to what I was saying, at least with me.

02:53:51.500 By the way, I haven't gone down on a girl since the Bush administration.

02:53:55.420 So, when was that?

02:53:56.780 Oh, my God.

02:53:57.680 2008?

02:53:58.340 When I was thinking that, too.

02:54:01.020 What?

02:54:01.160 I was like, no.

02:54:04.020 Yeah, no pun intended.

02:54:05.120 No pun intended, but yeah.

02:54:05.960 And have you been in any, like, relationships?

02:54:07.740 I've been in multiple long-term relationships.

02:54:11.100 Do you do something other than, do you, like, foreplay?

02:54:14.480 You do it?

02:54:14.760 Of course.

02:54:15.340 Yeah.

02:54:15.580 Oh, she comes first.

02:54:17.420 Every time.

02:54:18.100 Then that would be fine.

02:54:18.960 Then I take it back.

02:54:19.740 If that happens, then it's not a deal breaker.

02:54:22.560 Okay.

02:54:23.460 But it's a nice treat.

02:54:24.860 Like, if you want me to suck your dick, you better, you know?

02:54:28.200 Well, so, okay.

02:54:29.080 Yeah, no, I have not gone down on a girl in a long time.

02:54:33.200 No offense.

02:54:35.420 One, neck problems, you know?

02:54:37.760 Oh, my God.

02:54:38.580 Neck problems, you know?

02:54:41.500 But I honestly just never really super enjoyed it, to be honest.

02:54:46.840 And I do other things.

02:54:49.900 Hands, toys, other things.

02:54:53.620 Anyways, but, okay, the reason guys don't want to do it is, bro, if you're fucking, like,

02:55:03.040 the dating meta is people are sleeping around a lot.

02:55:07.620 So, in the same way how I didn't want to sleep with a girl if she's sleeping with somebody

02:55:11.960 else, how I find that disgusting, it's almost worse to go down on a girl if she's fucking

02:55:17.560 another guy.

02:55:18.900 You disagree.

02:55:19.780 But, yeah, the thought of me going down on a girl and a guy came in her the night before,

02:55:25.260 sorry.

02:55:25.580 I, to me, that's gross.

02:55:31.540 I can see that.

02:55:33.080 It just can't possibly be the case for the millions of men out there who don't want to

02:55:37.860 eat pussy.

02:55:38.360 Like, I know they're not all thinking, this girl must have fucked a guy last night, so

02:55:41.740 I don't want to eat her out.

02:55:42.680 Like, no, you think pussy is gross, and I think you need to do some self-evaluation

02:55:46.440 on whether you really like it.

02:55:47.820 Listen, as a fan of pussy, by the way, all labia matter.

02:55:54.840 Can we get, can we, can we, hold on, I got to pull up the thing.

02:55:59.840 Support my non-profit, the American Network, against labia placity, all labia matter.

02:56:06.960 Okay.

02:56:08.800 What was the question?

02:56:09.600 Like, um, there must be, that can't be the case for all men who don't eat pussy.

02:56:15.180 Oh, men are just gross help.

02:56:16.100 I mean, yeah, sure, I guess there are some guys that, I mean, I've heard girls say they

02:56:21.120 think dicks are weird, they hate the taste of cum, I get it, you know, but my big thing

02:56:28.860 is, is the way the dating landscape is today, the dating meta, as I like to call it, people

02:56:37.560 are sleeping with a bunch of other people, like, you have to, you have to go in assuming

02:56:42.980 that they're fucking at least one other person.

02:56:48.160 At least one other person.

02:56:49.620 I know some, I've heard from girls, they're like, yeah, I got a roster, I got three or

02:56:53.400 four guys, I'm like, bro.

02:56:54.500 I got a roster, I got a roster, I got to ask the same thing.

02:56:59.920 The thought of me going down on a girl that's fucking another guy, it just, no, I'm not going

02:57:06.160 to do it.

02:57:06.760 Do you want to go?

02:57:07.480 Go ahead.

02:57:07.900 Mine is short.

02:57:08.960 It's not a question.

02:57:09.660 Okay, go ahead.

02:57:10.300 Okay, so when a girl has a roster, not all of the players have the same function.

02:57:15.020 True.

02:57:15.340 So I may have a roster, but I'm only having sex with one.

02:57:18.740 The other one, but you hear what I'm saying, they don't all serve the same purpose.

02:57:24.320 What do you mean by serve the same purpose?

02:57:26.220 So I may have, I may talk to one man, and I like having sex with him.

02:57:30.220 I may talk to another man, and I enjoy just hanging out with him, because I think he's

02:57:33.960 super cool.

02:57:35.600 Hate me if you want.

02:57:36.620 And then Jess, you have one guy for dinner, who pays for your dinner.

02:57:41.560 No, I like to cook.

02:57:42.940 But there are girls like that, like, they like to have certain men like to buy them food.

02:57:47.460 They know there's a guy who will pay for their hair and nails.

02:57:50.180 They know there's a guy that will drive them places.

02:57:52.500 Like, that's how some rosters work.

02:57:55.020 Using their access.

02:57:56.040 There are chicks that in their phone, they save the guy's name as Uber, Dinner.

02:58:01.300 It's real.

02:58:02.160 Aww.

02:58:02.940 That's like jersey numbers.

02:58:04.640 Jersey numbers?

02:58:05.580 What's that?

02:58:06.060 So like your Uber.

02:58:06.880 Like your basketball team, who comes up first.

02:58:09.940 Yeah, yeah.

02:58:10.280 Like, so, I don't know.

02:58:12.280 To me, a lot of girls be fucking multiple guys at the same time.

02:58:17.000 Props to them.

02:58:17.720 I don't know how they can manage that, though.

02:58:19.140 That's a lot of juggling.

02:58:21.040 To be fair, I don't trust all tongues from men.

02:58:23.460 Because y'all be, it goes the same way, right?

02:58:25.900 Like, you never know.

02:58:27.300 Sure.

02:58:27.640 And you know what?

02:58:28.480 I can understand your point when it comes to, like, random hookups.

02:58:31.220 Because, like, I'm definitely not going to give head to a guy if I just met him.

02:58:35.380 Because, like, who knows?

02:58:36.360 But at the same time, like, we should always be striving to be safe.

02:58:41.540 And so I understand that in that, like, one hookup situation, you have a condom, you might not have one of those, like.

02:58:46.360 Because there are condoms for, like, eating people out.

02:58:48.860 Dental dim.

02:58:49.360 But you just probably don't have it on you.

02:58:51.020 Most people don't, so.

02:58:53.540 Word.

02:58:54.360 But if it's an established relationship, I think if you haven't tried it before, give it a shot.

02:58:59.540 Practice, guys.

02:59:00.300 It's not hard.

02:59:01.020 There's porn videos on how to do it.

02:59:02.760 We all had to learn somewhere.

02:59:04.560 I don't know.

02:59:04.920 I think a lot of guys have neck pain, to be honest.

02:59:06.960 Oh, my God.

02:59:07.420 Have her sit on your face, then.

02:59:08.600 Different position.

02:59:09.000 Duh, just lay there.

02:59:11.180 Come on.

02:59:14.660 Yeah.

02:59:15.640 Is it a deal breaker for you if a girl doesn't want to give you head when you're dating her?

02:59:20.280 No.

02:59:21.260 I've definitely had situations.

02:59:23.700 What was the look?

02:59:24.460 I mean, I've definitely had situations where I, you know, it's clear, like, hey, I'm not really into going down on a girl.

02:59:31.520 Obviously, I'm not going to give her the whole Bush administration quip.

02:59:35.780 I'm going to try to do it a bit more tactfully.

02:59:38.400 But, yeah, I mean, I just, I don't enjoy it.

02:59:44.320 There's a couple of reasons why I don't like to do it.

02:59:46.320 Also, even if you are in a relationship, there's infidelity.

02:59:49.020 People cheat.

02:59:49.560 It sounds like you put it down in other ways, though, so it's okay.

02:59:54.720 We're not bad.

02:59:54.920 No, like, 100%.

02:59:56.020 Like, my goal, like, I want the girl to come before me.

03:00:00.560 And so multiple times if possible.

03:00:05.220 So it's not that hard.

03:00:08.360 I mean, I got it figured out.

03:00:09.680 Okay.

03:00:10.020 But anyways, what was the question?

03:00:11.880 Oh, is it a deal breaker if she doesn't go down on me?

03:00:16.100 No, it's not a deal breaker because I kind of get it.

03:00:19.180 Like, if I'm not going down on her, she wants the reciprocity.

03:00:22.460 I kind of get it.

03:00:23.560 I don't necessarily think, though, that just because I don't feel comfortable doing something that she has to be uncomfortable doing it, too.

03:00:34.380 Does that make sense?

03:00:35.060 So in the same way that there could be all sorts of differences of what one person is comfortable with and what one other person isn't comfortable with.

03:00:46.980 That's fair.

03:00:48.480 Yeah.

03:00:50.000 Okay.

03:00:50.880 We're going to watch one video to wrap it up.

03:00:55.160 Yeah, numb.

03:00:55.860 Never eat your girl out because she might cheat, right?

03:00:58.000 Or I think he might actually be trolling me there.

03:01:06.560 I think so.

03:01:07.880 He's like, what the fuck?

03:01:11.460 Honey, go get your neck brace.

03:01:15.260 Okay.

03:01:16.180 So, hmm.

03:01:18.300 Oh, we got a super chat here.

03:01:19.740 Andrew Tate with the 99.

03:01:21.280 I don't know what currency that is.

03:01:22.460 I'll DM these women when I get my Insta back.

03:01:25.100 Okay.

03:01:25.680 There you go.

03:01:28.000 Well, you know what?

03:01:28.900 While we have Mr. Tate here, we're going to just react to one video.

03:01:32.160 We've watched it a few times before on the stream, guys.

03:01:36.040 Oh, wait.

03:01:36.620 No, sorry.

03:01:37.100 Okay.

03:01:37.260 We got to get through the...

03:01:38.640 Okay.

03:01:39.160 We'll watch the Tate video.

03:01:40.560 Eric, can you go to window mode?

03:01:42.800 We'll wrap, guys, very soon.

03:01:44.640 Control tab over.

03:01:46.640 There we go.

03:01:47.340 Okay.

03:01:47.560 So I saw this on Hinge the other day.

03:01:50.960 I don't know if you guys are familiar with Hinge.

03:01:52.100 It's a dating app, and there's prompts in it.

03:01:55.900 So I saw this.

03:01:58.480 Green flags I look for.

03:02:00.020 Someone with a yacht.

03:02:01.020 And the rest of her profile was just talking about how much she wanted to go on a boat,

03:02:04.940 how much she wanted to go on a yacht, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

03:02:09.660 Do you think...

03:02:11.160 Let's say you were a guy in this situation, and you saw this.

03:02:15.200 Eric, you can go ahead and just bring it back.

03:02:16.900 Like, if you saw that, would you...

03:02:21.760 Is that a bad look?

03:02:23.700 Yeah.

03:02:25.140 All right.

03:02:25.700 So I always tell my friends, if I was a guy, like, I would honestly be a manipulator.

03:02:29.500 Like, I'm not even about to lie.

03:02:31.040 But so if I had a yacht, and I saw that, I'm like, all right, cha-ching.

03:02:35.340 Like, I can fuck with this girl.

03:02:37.860 Like, not to...

03:02:39.120 Just being honest.

03:02:40.800 But if I don't have a yacht, and I see that, and...

03:02:44.560 What percentage of men do you think have yachts?

03:02:47.520 Oh, like, I don't know.

03:02:49.580 Like, yeah, pretty low.

03:02:50.620 Maybe 9%.

03:02:51.980 9% of men have yachts.

03:02:53.640 On Hinge?

03:02:54.820 You think 9% of men have yachts?

03:02:57.500 Is that...

03:02:58.380 9%?

03:02:59.320 I don't know.

03:02:59.400 I don't think yachts are a very common...

03:03:01.400 I can't afford a yacht.

03:03:02.540 I don't know.

03:03:03.480 But, no, you think 9%...

03:03:04.800 Where's Santa Barbara, too?

03:03:05.200 It's, like, less than 9%.

03:03:06.120 You think 9% of men have yachts?

03:03:08.000 So, out of 100 men, 9 of them have yachts.

03:03:12.720 Out of how many?

03:03:13.760 100?

03:03:13.940 Out of 100 men, 9 of them have yachts.

03:03:16.380 Yacht.

03:03:16.980 Um, all right, yacht.

03:03:19.580 How about 4?

03:03:22.240 I'm staying pretty low.

03:03:23.600 It's gonna be 1, or less than 1.

03:03:26.400 Go ahead.

03:03:27.600 Actually, pull it back up real quick.

03:03:30.600 Okay.

03:03:31.360 Someone with a yacht.

03:03:32.580 So, her...

03:03:33.100 She's...

03:03:34.220 And by the way, if you...

03:03:35.280 I blacked out her eyes a bit.

03:03:38.440 This is the real girl?

03:03:39.720 This is the girl.

03:03:40.980 Did you find her yourself?

03:03:43.620 Huh?

03:03:44.020 Did you find her yourself?

03:03:45.720 Yeah, this is a girl I saw in Santa Barbara.

03:03:48.280 I took a screenshot of this.

03:03:50.440 And I was like, the fuck, bruv?

03:03:53.180 So, okay, not to talk shit on her,

03:03:55.100 but, like, you're looking at her, right?

03:03:57.740 Do you think she's deserving of a guy with a yacht?

03:04:02.480 If she likes yachts...

03:04:03.880 Does she look like the type of guy...

03:04:05.960 Or, sorry, the type of girl

03:04:07.200 that can command a guy with a yacht?

03:04:11.220 That can get a guy with a yacht?

03:04:12.360 Go ahead.

03:04:12.660 Bring it back, Eric.

03:04:15.460 Maybe.

03:04:16.080 I don't think she's commanding.

03:04:17.140 She's saying what she wants,

03:04:18.000 and if you have it, you have it.

03:04:19.000 And if you're attracted to her, hit her up.

03:04:20.320 If not, that's fine.

03:04:21.280 Okay, well, you know what?

03:04:22.400 I live at my parents' house.

03:04:24.500 I play video games all day.

03:04:25.740 I'm overweight, and I smoke weed.

03:04:27.120 I want a Victoria's Secret model.

03:04:29.600 Do you think I'm gonna get her?

03:04:30.860 No.

03:04:31.160 You're probably not gonna get her, but...

03:04:32.860 It's delusional.

03:04:33.580 I wish you the best of luck.

03:04:36.940 It's delusion.

03:04:37.680 But, okay, give your reaction.

03:04:40.660 I don't think it's possible.

03:04:44.280 For her?

03:04:45.400 Maybe.

03:04:45.520 She does...

03:04:46.120 Your hair is very similar to hers, by the way.

03:04:48.180 Oh, my God.

03:04:50.160 But, I mean, like...

03:04:51.120 Was it you?

03:04:51.560 It is possible, but, like...

03:04:53.620 I don't know.

03:04:54.220 It's kind of like a match thing.

03:04:56.200 Like, your energy needs to match with what you want.

03:05:00.000 Do you think she has I-can-get-a-guy-with-a-yacht energy?

03:05:04.560 I mean...

03:05:05.520 Just based off her appearance.

03:05:07.340 If you work on Get Improvement...

03:05:09.000 You know, if she's bold enough to put that in her, like, dating profile, I think that

03:05:22.140 says, like, she's a go-getter.

03:05:24.600 Like, she's gonna get what she wants.

03:05:25.940 She can party it up.

03:05:27.700 Like, yacht?

03:05:29.960 I think she's reaching.

03:05:32.000 Maybe it's a conversation starter for her.

03:05:33.440 Hey, you're bi.

03:05:35.500 Was she attractive?

03:05:37.300 Like, I know her eyes are blacked out, but do you think she's good-looking?

03:05:41.300 Just being objectional and everybody has their own taste, but no, I don't think she was...

03:05:47.620 I wouldn't have swiped right on her.

03:05:49.480 So, do you think...

03:05:49.880 I don't have a yacht either.

03:05:51.380 Fair enough.

03:05:52.140 Fair enough.

03:05:53.540 To me, it's just, like, that blows my mind.

03:05:55.740 And I see that shit a lot.

03:05:57.080 Like, oh, they fill in all three of the prompts.

03:06:00.360 Green flag I look for.

03:06:01.560 Someone with a yacht.

03:06:02.680 I'm really, you know, something else about a yacht.

03:06:04.620 I want a guy with a boat.

03:06:05.600 I want a guy with a boat.

03:06:06.460 Blah, blah, blah.

03:06:06.940 It's just, like...

03:06:07.560 I think that was a trend this summer.

03:06:09.300 Y'all finessing.

03:06:10.500 I saw a lot of...

03:06:10.800 Men do that all the time, but they're like, I want a big booty light skin.

03:06:13.740 Like, but you're, like, looking like something else.

03:06:18.200 There's definitely guys that are delusional, too.

03:06:20.040 100%.

03:06:20.640 Very awful.

03:06:21.880 But I think, like, guys are more...

03:06:25.020 Like, guys, when they...

03:06:26.860 They know when they're not it, I think, for the most part.

03:06:33.520 Yeah, they do.

03:06:34.600 They just don't admit it, but they know.

03:06:36.580 Guys know.

03:06:37.500 Because...

03:06:37.860 Because you don't get compliments.

03:06:38.700 They know.

03:06:39.440 They know when they can't pull, and they know when they're overreaching.

03:06:42.120 But props to overreaching.

03:06:43.400 Yeah, I mean, here's the other reason for that, is that women, you can sleep with men

03:06:47.060 that are, let's say, outside of your league that are more attractive than you,

03:06:51.120 but those men are not going to ever commit to you.

03:06:55.120 Whereas most men, they can't sleep outside of their league.

03:06:58.440 Most men have to date down.

03:07:00.760 So you can, like, a lot of you could hook up with a guy who's more attractive than you

03:07:05.960 are.

03:07:06.140 Let's just say, like, you're equivalent.

03:07:08.100 He's more attractive.

03:07:09.260 But he's probably not going to commit to you.

03:07:12.680 That's...

03:07:13.120 And that's kind of what's going on with dating apps.

03:07:15.080 Because you got...

03:07:18.080 Basically, 80% of the women are competing for 20% of the men.

03:07:21.900 And so they have an abundance of choice.

03:07:23.720 So then why would they settle down with one woman when they could just run through a bunch

03:07:28.040 of chicks?

03:07:30.720 Okay.

03:07:31.760 We're going to pull up some other hinge clips.

03:07:36.120 Just control tab over.

03:07:37.280 So this is a trend that I've been seeing on Hinge of people responding to the I'm the type

03:07:47.500 of text or who hinge prompt.

03:07:50.920 And it's usually something like, I'll respond right away or in two to three business days.

03:07:57.320 And y'all think y'all so original.

03:08:02.160 Hit control tab again.

03:08:05.880 Okay.

03:08:06.360 Hit control tab again.

03:08:10.840 Applies two to five business days later.

03:08:13.160 Okay.

03:08:13.680 Again.

03:08:15.400 Two seconds or two days.

03:08:16.940 Okay.

03:08:17.180 Again.

03:08:19.460 Or in seven...

03:08:20.360 Okay.

03:08:23.320 I think there might be two more.

03:08:28.440 Keep going.

03:08:30.260 Okay.

03:08:30.760 Keep going.

03:08:31.960 How many are there?

03:08:32.840 Okay.

03:08:33.060 One more, I think.

03:08:36.360 Anyways, you can bring it back, Eric.

03:08:40.060 So...

03:08:40.500 Do you want the truth with that?

03:08:41.840 Yeah.

03:08:42.040 What is going on there?

03:08:43.220 Are they just trying to be clever?

03:08:44.340 Because that shit is...

03:08:45.040 No, it's not clever.

03:08:46.380 It's more so, for me at least, like...

03:08:49.380 If I'm...

03:08:51.340 I only have Tinder, right?

03:08:52.360 But if I'm, like, swiping on Tinder and I'm just, like, bored, I'm looking, I'll be swiping

03:08:56.220 on a lot of guys I think are handsome.

03:08:57.500 And then if they actually, like, DM me, like, a day or two later and it's, like, midday and

03:09:02.280 I'm not wanting to have a conversation, it's just like, oh, you were cute when I was, like,

03:09:07.240 at, like, 12 o'clock at night when I was bored.

03:09:08.840 But now it's, like, 2 o'clock and I'm at school and I see that their response, I'm not going to

03:09:12.660 respond until I'm, like, bored again.

03:09:15.080 Which is super shitty, but it's true.

03:09:19.000 It's shitty.

03:09:20.260 But most of the time, I just don't even respond.

03:09:22.500 I just...

03:09:23.140 Excuse me.

03:09:23.520 I just don't understand, like, putting that in a dating profile where you're...

03:09:28.420 I assume you're trying to put your best foot forward and present yourself.

03:09:31.740 I think it's stupid if they, like, do that, but it's, like, also being, like...

03:09:34.180 Like, you can tell, like, if those women, like, message you, like, immediately.

03:09:38.720 It's just, like, they're super into you.

03:09:40.080 They're super into you.

03:09:40.560 They find you attractive.

03:09:41.140 But then if they, like, mention stuff like that, it's just kind of, like, they're so,

03:09:45.540 like, aloof and they're so, like, not...

03:09:47.420 Yeah, like, to me as a guy, when I see that, my thought process is, one, why would you put

03:09:55.200 that in your profile?

03:09:56.600 Because you're basically communicating that you're a shit communicator.

03:10:00.440 Yeah.

03:10:01.240 Which is a turnoff for anyone.

03:10:02.680 And maybe I'm not going to get that treatment, but why would you, like...

03:10:06.720 And I don't know if you saw the ages on some of them.

03:10:08.820 Like, there's a 31-year-old woman.

03:10:10.560 There's, like, a...

03:10:11.880 Most of them were, like, probably mid-20s.

03:10:13.940 Like, I could understand that shit from someone who's, like, young.

03:10:18.480 I don't.

03:10:19.020 You're on your phone all the time.

03:10:20.900 But, like, someone who's fucking...

03:10:22.720 Who's older, like, saying this shit to...

03:10:25.620 As a guy, and by the way, if you guys are in the chat, like, I don't know if any of you

03:10:28.960 are on dating apps, you've seen those types of messages, I'm the type of texter who either

03:10:33.780 responds right away or in three to five business days.

03:10:36.080 I've also seen the shit where it's, like, you know, oh, I see the text, I respond in

03:10:42.040 my head, and then get upset when the guy doesn't text me.

03:10:45.820 I'm like, bro, are you that inept of a fucking communicator that you can't even figure it out?

03:10:51.880 And maybe some girls think it's, like, cute or whatever to put that in there, but, like,

03:10:55.760 I don't see that as cute.

03:10:57.380 I don't think you're cute.

03:10:58.480 I think you're annoying.

03:11:00.940 Go ahead.

03:11:01.840 Your thoughts on that?

03:11:04.560 I mean, yeah, I just don't think...

03:11:07.600 You can put other your hobbies and your interests rather than...

03:11:11.660 I don't think it's, like, have any valid information for about, you know, finding a person you want

03:11:18.140 to date or something.

03:11:19.980 But I'm the type of person, like, either text back immediately or never, never respond again.

03:11:28.760 Yeah, I mean, there's definitely, like, you know, you give your...

03:11:31.360 Give a guy a number, and you're just not really feeling it, and you're just curving him.

03:11:35.020 I get that.

03:11:35.700 I just don't understand.

03:11:36.980 Like, I understand, like, a girl not really being responsive to a guy she's not interested

03:11:41.460 in.

03:11:41.760 I get that.

03:11:42.720 But advertising it on a dating profile to me is just, like, what?

03:11:49.020 It's just weird.

03:11:49.680 Y'all goofy.

03:11:50.580 Okay.

03:11:51.020 I was literally going to say goofy.

03:11:52.600 Yeah.

03:11:52.920 Go ahead.

03:11:53.640 I mean, like, I feel like a lot of people are like that.

03:11:55.820 They don't respond, whatever.

03:11:56.700 But I think, yeah, presenting it in a dating profile, like, you're there to talk to people.

03:12:02.720 So, I mean, I think it's just they're using it as, like, an excuse for whoever they match

03:12:07.040 with.

03:12:07.720 If I don't text you right away, well, I told you, so don't be mad.

03:12:11.940 But...

03:12:12.100 That's a really good point.

03:12:13.180 Really good point.

03:12:14.600 Yeah, I agree.

03:12:15.160 It's pretty childish.

03:12:16.160 But it could be their way of letting them know.

03:12:21.080 Yeah.

03:12:21.540 I think it's stupid.

03:12:22.360 You shouldn't put that.

03:12:24.160 I feel like on Tinder would be fine, but not Hinge.

03:12:27.340 Because Hinge is, like, specifically for dating.

03:12:30.080 So, like...

03:12:30.260 It's a bit more serious.

03:12:31.100 Yeah.

03:12:31.380 So, you should be taking it seriously if that's what you want to do.

03:12:34.640 If not, get on a different app.

03:12:35.800 That's the only thing I'd say.

03:12:37.860 Okay.

03:12:38.240 Cool.

03:12:38.900 I think we'll just get to the video and then wrap it up.

03:12:42.840 Eric, we're going to...

03:12:44.340 We're pulling up Mr. Andrew Tate.

03:12:49.640 Pepper your...

03:12:50.860 Oh, go ahead, Eric.

03:12:51.720 Eric, hide that.

03:12:56.900 And then we'll just do the...

03:12:58.420 I mean, I know we've watched it a ton of times.

03:13:00.240 I mean, we could do...

03:13:01.400 Here, we'll watch two really quick.

03:13:02.960 We'll do promiscuity and then we'll go right into body count.

03:13:08.140 Okay, prepare to get offended or not.

03:13:10.480 I've never seen one of his videos.

03:13:12.240 You've never seen his videos?

03:13:13.140 You're blessed.

03:13:13.500 Yeah.

03:13:13.780 Have you got...

03:13:14.280 Okay, so you...

03:13:14.820 Just heard about it.

03:13:15.100 Go ahead and play it.

03:13:16.980 Have you had a serious relationship with him?

03:13:18.880 I have many concurrent serious relationships as we speak.

03:13:22.720 Are you poly?

03:13:24.660 No, because that means they can talk to other dudes.

03:13:26.640 That's fucking haram.

03:13:28.800 That's atrocious.

03:13:29.680 That's disgusting.

03:13:31.620 Agreed.

03:13:32.160 Throughout the majority of human history,

03:13:34.160 female promiscuity has been absolutely frowned upon.

03:13:36.480 Only in the Western world we're going to pretend it's an okay thing.

03:13:38.660 Every single culture is just the dawn of human time

03:13:40.800 and every single place on the planet has said that female promiscuity is disgusting

03:13:44.240 to the point where females were executed for it.

03:13:46.580 And most of the world today...

03:13:47.860 As they should be.

03:13:48.880 Get the rocks.

03:13:50.220 Yeah.

03:13:50.480 Abdul?

03:13:51.240 Yeah.

03:13:51.580 Get the rocks.

03:13:52.180 Get the rocks.

03:13:53.620 In most of the world today, it's still frowned upon.

03:13:56.360 It's unacceptable.

03:13:57.280 Whereas every single king insulted and sheikhs

03:13:59.660 as the dawn of human time had multiple women.

03:14:01.540 Men are allowed multiple women.

03:14:02.700 Women are not allowed multiple men.

03:14:03.900 Because if a woman has multiple men, you cannot ensure paternity.

03:14:06.160 I can walk and have 10 wives behind me.

03:14:07.860 That's perfectly acceptable.

03:14:08.920 If a woman has 10 men, it's disgusting.

03:14:11.880 Absolutely vile.

03:14:13.460 Okay.

03:14:13.940 I want to get your guys' reaction to that really quick and then we'll watch his other one.

03:14:20.120 By the way, that's Andrew Tate's words, not mine.

03:14:24.180 Go ahead.

03:14:25.700 Can I go after?

03:14:28.660 Sure.

03:14:29.000 Yeah.

03:14:29.520 Yeah.

03:14:29.660 Andrew Tate is a, I'm not a fan of him.

03:14:34.000 I feel like a lot of his personality is like to get attention.

03:14:37.660 So I think, yes, he has misogynistic views, but he, I feel like as I watch his videos and

03:14:42.640 his content, like I feel like he's really exaggerating it to get the backlash and all

03:14:47.180 that stuff because he feeds off of it.

03:14:48.480 And you know, it's smart from a marketing perspective.

03:14:50.240 Like you're getting all of this traction on your page.

03:14:52.560 I get it.

03:14:53.280 But it's like, dude, if you, like, if you really think like that, like, yeah.

03:14:58.400 Yeah.

03:14:58.700 His like, that might be the first video I've seen of him too, but I think.

03:15:01.960 That was, that was a rough introduction.

03:15:03.740 Yeah.

03:15:04.660 If that's really how he thinks, I feel like it's so far, like I can't even, I wouldn't

03:15:08.740 even be able to have a conversation with him because I couldn't take him serious.

03:15:10.900 Like there's no way you think all these things.

03:15:13.080 I think he's definitely trolling.

03:15:14.300 Um, and if he's not, I don't even know.

03:15:19.240 Sydney.

03:15:19.800 He makes me uncomfortable.

03:15:22.400 Just like, yeah.

03:15:24.240 I feel like Andrew Tate would try really hard to piss me off.

03:15:28.060 But then the fact that I'm like kind of everything that he hates about women, I think that would

03:15:32.480 just end up pissing him off more.

03:15:34.220 But I think it's interesting.

03:15:36.080 I think we're going to see kind of a counterculture to this idea of like a woman has to be with one

03:15:41.860 man, but a man can have 10, 10 women.

03:15:43.760 Well, now we have the idea of like rosters.

03:15:46.360 We have, you know, rap artists, female rap artists who are talking about sex in a way

03:15:50.340 that men are, have been talking about sex with women for years.

03:15:53.420 So in a way you're just creating what you hate, if that makes sense.

03:15:59.280 Because people are going to push back and do the extreme because of this.

03:16:03.360 Okay.

03:16:04.480 Yeah.

03:16:04.840 I mean, like for me, I just think the way he talk is so like aggressive.

03:16:10.700 It's kind of, I don't know, it's kind of like dramatic or something, even though I just,

03:16:17.240 I don't admit like the, the thing he says about women mostly.

03:16:22.100 Yeah.

03:16:22.240 Um, another thing like Andrew Tate, like I know, obviously he's more than just a misogynist.

03:16:30.460 Like I know he's a very successful entrepreneur, businessman, whatever it is.

03:16:34.240 And what bothers me most is like, he has this platform and like, he has all these, these

03:16:39.740 opportunities for interviews and things like that.

03:16:41.320 And so he's reaching such a big audience of very like impressionable boys.

03:16:45.280 And it's just like, oh my gosh, like, please do not tell me this is the man who you're looking

03:16:49.600 up to.

03:16:50.440 Because like, not only are they getting advice from him, um, for like money and status and

03:16:57.340 all of that.

03:16:57.740 So I, I feel like a lot of people will, will interpret his actions and his words, um, as

03:17:03.080 things like they should do in order to reach that type of status.

03:17:06.780 Sure.

03:17:07.880 I super agree with that.

03:17:09.460 Like Logan Paul, I think one of the Paul brothers mentioned that like, it's Logan Paul.

03:17:15.800 What'd you say?

03:17:16.500 Fuck Logan Paul.

03:17:17.400 One of them mentioned that it's terrifying.

03:17:20.960 Like if this is like, you know, everyone has their influencers, but if our like 12 year

03:17:24.460 old boys are like watching him and being like, oh, okay, well like women shouldn't have to

03:17:28.540 do this and women shouldn't like, it's going to take us back so many years that it is.

03:17:32.640 It's terrifying.

03:17:33.600 And like women just got, like, we're going through like the whole like Roe v. Wade bullshit

03:17:37.260 right now.

03:17:37.800 Like, and he's just like, I don't know.

03:17:39.940 He just, he scares me.

03:17:41.140 He's a, he's a scary person to have to like influence our young generation.

03:17:48.820 Next video.

03:17:50.140 Yeah.

03:17:50.460 I mean, so you, you do have to question though, why is it that his message, and he's certainly

03:17:58.120 said some very controversial things, why is it that Andrew Tate's message is resonating

03:18:03.840 so much with men?

03:18:07.320 Because I think, I think Andrew Tate, Andrew Tate is really the pendulum swinging the other

03:18:13.980 way on basically, I don't want to get too much into a debate on feminism, but, um, feminism

03:18:26.220 is basically, uh, promoted this, there's a lot of man hating.

03:18:33.420 And Andrew Tate is sort of the reaction, the response to that.

03:18:41.020 She doesn't like that one.

03:18:42.480 I'm going to be honest.

03:18:43.660 I think he's like very similar to Ben Shapiro in a way.

03:18:48.000 If you go back to like the 2016 Trump era, like I remember in high school, I kind of fell

03:18:53.120 into that like anti-S, S, S, D, S, J, W.

03:18:56.620 Oh, so you're based.

03:18:58.040 Are you based?

03:18:58.740 I wouldn't say that, but I have like experience with that stuff.

03:19:03.640 Because you're, you're bi, so do you, I don't know, I don't even know where I'm going with

03:19:11.020 that, but, sorry, go ahead, sorry.

03:19:13.860 So just basically I can see like, he is able to take these concepts of morality and the idea

03:19:23.260 of like people should be a specific way or like if a woman wants my respect, she needs

03:19:28.360 to be a very specific way.

03:19:29.680 He's taking that idea and then he's just like kind of bringing examples that are just like

03:19:34.820 more and more ridiculous and it becomes this giant like modern woman hate train when in

03:19:39.400 reality like women have been promiscuous for years, men have been just as promiscuous for

03:19:43.960 years, like affairs have been happening for years, women have been wanting to show more

03:19:49.240 skin for years.

03:19:51.100 When you say years, what do you mean?

03:19:52.700 Do you mean since like the 1960s?

03:19:54.480 I just, through the progression of time and through the progression of history, you see

03:19:58.420 an increase in, well it depends on where you're at because you're always going to have that

03:20:02.380 counterculture, but as things have been progressing through history, people have just been becoming

03:20:08.120 less moral in terms of like religious morality, people are separated from that.

03:20:13.760 A lot of people don't grow up with religion in the home anymore and like me, I grew up with

03:20:18.320 religion and for a long time I was very afraid of like having sex.

03:20:21.860 I thought literally I would be smited on sight, but obviously that hasn't stopped me.

03:20:25.800 That is what happens.

03:20:26.540 Yeah, it hasn't stopped me from being who I am now, so like does it matter whether or

03:20:31.280 not you have those morals, you know?

03:20:33.580 Sure.

03:20:34.040 I might not start in OnlyFans, but I'm still fucking, so to some guy I'm like super moral

03:20:39.360 because I won't sell pictures of my body, but to another one because I have had sex with

03:20:44.140 multiple people, like I'm a slut.

03:20:46.440 So it's really just whose eyes you're viewing it in, but it is dangerous because there's

03:20:51.280 a lot of young men who are looking at this through his eyes.

03:20:54.700 Yes!

03:20:56.220 That's awesome!

03:20:58.040 That was a good take.

03:20:59.060 That was great.

03:20:59.260 Appreciate that.

03:20:59.920 Appreciate that.

03:21:02.540 Okay.

03:21:03.240 I don't know where we were with all that.

03:21:04.860 Let's just pull up the other clip here.

03:21:07.280 So we're going to do the body count one, and then we're going to wrap up, guys.

03:21:11.660 I know we've gone a bit late.

03:21:12.640 It's the first time you sat, you're going to wrap it up.

03:21:14.700 I know.

03:21:17.280 You know what's so attractive about younger women?

03:21:19.160 Should we wait for Sydney?

03:21:20.260 Can you pause it?

03:21:21.080 Sorry.

03:21:21.260 Should we wait for Sydney?

03:21:22.520 Yeah.

03:21:22.920 Here, just bring it back for 30 seconds.

03:21:24.820 If she's not back, then we'll start it.

03:21:27.020 So just going back to Tate on everything.

03:21:31.700 So where were we?

03:21:33.580 Did you guys have anything else on Tate?

03:21:35.420 No, no.

03:21:37.760 I mean, like, my main issue really is, like, the hypocrisy of it all.

03:21:41.140 Like, I'm pretty sure Andrew Tate isn't, he's not loyal to one girl.

03:21:46.680 I mean, if he is, then he's probably.

03:21:48.340 He's got multiple chicks.

03:21:49.320 Yeah.

03:21:49.560 He's probably gone through relationships.

03:21:50.960 So it's just like, I don't know, don't come for women so hard if you're not doing the same thing.

03:21:56.060 Yeah.

03:21:56.200 Well, so he believes that the double standard is justified for the reasons he's explained.

03:22:04.460 And he kind of explained in that video.

03:22:08.040 I disagree.

03:22:09.680 But anyways, we're going to react to this last final video.

03:22:12.300 Eric, if you can go ahead and pull it up.

03:22:13.860 Go ahead.

03:22:14.440 I'm so attractive about younger women because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff.

03:22:20.980 I don't actually think it's that.

03:22:22.320 I think that in the modern world, in the days of old, right, you'd meet a woman, you'd get married, you'd be together, whatever.

03:22:27.100 In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's been through her before me is just simply unattractive.

03:22:34.720 I don't care how nice you are, but you're 33 years old.

03:22:37.840 How many men have fucked?

03:22:38.860 If I get a 19-year-old girl, I might be her second or third man, right?

03:22:41.380 I'm going to be dude number fucking 29?

03:22:43.220 And all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through, you're going to try and bring to my door?

03:22:48.700 Like, well, my last man cheated.

03:22:50.020 I don't give a fuck.

03:22:51.380 Like, I don't care.

03:22:52.400 Like, why is that my problem?

03:22:53.480 So if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer.

03:22:57.340 They've had more fucking rides, more spins.

03:23:00.100 I don't want that shit.

03:23:01.280 And when I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count.

03:23:04.740 And also, no, but the truth is this.

03:23:07.500 Women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex.

03:23:10.540 If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall in love with you.

03:23:14.320 It is unattractive, too.

03:23:15.520 And it's unattractive.

03:23:16.240 It is.

03:23:16.460 But if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, is she really going to think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special?

03:23:21.660 Or is she going to think, you know what, he talked to me real quick, let's go get a new guy?

03:23:23.780 Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you and be a better partner.

03:23:27.180 The likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and really believing you're the only man for her

03:23:32.720 after being through so much trauma and so many men and sleeping with so many dudes

03:23:36.240 and having her heart broken and having those memories of her ex

03:23:38.660 and all that crap she's been through is far less likely than meeting a nice, young, beautiful girl

03:23:42.880 who hasn't been with many men.

03:23:43.820 And she goes, you know what, this is the guy, I like him.

03:23:46.160 Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.

03:23:48.340 Women fall in love with the person they lose their virginity to or their second or third guy.

03:23:51.080 They really remember them.

03:23:51.940 They really love them.

03:23:52.780 Any woman who slept with 50 dudes, she doesn't even remember who most of them are.

03:23:55.020 She doesn't care.

03:23:55.780 If a woman slept with a bunch of men before you, she's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in a relationship.

03:23:59.600 She's more likely to just say, you know what, new answers, new dig.

03:24:01.720 That's a pretty good answer.

03:24:02.620 And that's the truth.

03:24:03.500 Let me make something clear.

03:24:04.340 If I meet a beautiful 30-year-old woman, I'm not saying I won't sleep with her.

03:24:06.900 That's pretty fucking old.

03:24:08.060 Ugh, 30?

03:24:09.300 I know.

03:24:09.760 What are you, crazy?

03:24:11.400 There's been times I was drunk.

03:24:13.220 Oh my god.

03:24:14.620 Yes!

03:24:17.120 Okay, reaction to that video?

03:24:19.560 The only thing I can say is the attitude and the words he said,

03:24:26.780 it just makes people so uncomfortable.

03:24:28.740 Because basically, like, he's judging, like, a girl based on her body counts.

03:24:35.500 And I don't know, I just, I just, it's just a really attractive behavior and also really offensive, I think.

03:24:44.340 Yeah.

03:24:44.800 I think it relates back to the whole age gap discussion, because how you pointed out, like, younger girls are easier to penetrate into their brains and all that stuff.

03:24:54.760 It's just, I think a lot of his views are standing on the mindset that, like, men are supposed to be, like, in control over women and all that.

03:25:04.960 And I think it's just very, like, a toxic mindset.

03:25:09.680 Yeah.

03:25:11.460 I have the same reaction.

03:25:12.620 Like, I can't, I just can't even believe what I'm saying.

03:25:16.680 I genuinely, like, I don't even, I don't even, like, want to, like, speak on him.

03:25:22.580 It's so disgusting that, like, it, honestly, like, it makes it seem like we're property.

03:25:30.040 Like, women are property.

03:25:31.520 It's disgusting.

03:25:33.180 It makes me uncomfortable.

03:25:35.340 But he's talking about body count.

03:25:37.400 He's, he's basically.

03:25:38.720 Him in general makes me uncomfortable.

03:25:40.600 Anything that he has to say, he's just, like, oh, I want a woman with, like, I want a young female, because that's how I know that she hasn't been touched.

03:25:48.020 Like, I don't, it makes me uncomfortable.

03:25:50.920 He also said it was easier to manipulate them into falling in love, which I think is, like, the key point.

03:25:56.520 It makes me feel like that's, it just, it terrifies me that, like, men have that mindset about women.

03:26:02.220 Like, how you mentioned that, like, women are making more money than men nowadays, and he's, like, oh, like, this, like, you can't do this, you can't, it's scary.

03:26:12.420 Your thoughts?

03:26:13.080 Just, honestly, guys, by acting in those ways of being, like, overly masculine and, like, playing women, you basically create the women that you're, like, insulting now.

03:26:28.500 Like, I use myself an example.

03:26:32.360 I think I started off very naive, very pure-minded, and very innocent, in which I thought that the guy I lost my virginity to, I genuinely thought it was going to be something.

03:26:41.900 And it just, you know, wasn't like that.

03:26:44.520 And then I found myself in similar situations where it was, like, I keep going for these, like, dickbag guys, and then you could say, oh, it's your type.

03:26:54.420 But then, then again, like, it's so many guys, it's like, okay, at this point, I feel like this is just how men are.

03:27:00.720 And then at that point, you start learning to play the game yourself, and then it does become, yes, that man is replaceable.

03:27:06.360 So, like, I'm less willing to stick in a relationship that isn't giving me what I need because there are plenty of other men who will do it for me.

03:27:14.520 And, like, same thing with lowering my standards.

03:27:17.080 Like, I've been with shorter men.

03:27:18.700 I've been with taller men.

03:27:19.660 I've been with fatter men.

03:27:21.080 I've been with skinnier men.

03:27:22.600 And, fuck, if you, if you're not shit, you're not shit.

03:27:26.260 Like, it doesn't matter what you have.

03:27:27.580 You could be rich.

03:27:28.180 You could be poor.

03:27:29.220 So, at the end of the day, like, it's really important to just, like, be a good fucking person and don't hurt people.

03:27:35.620 Otherwise, they're going to hurt other people and we'll be in this toxic cycle forever.

03:27:40.180 That's all.

03:27:42.740 Word?

03:27:44.520 That was good.

03:27:46.200 Thank you.

03:27:46.520 That was good.

03:27:47.800 Yeah, so, I mean, I don't know if you guys really addressed, though, his main argument, which was about body count.

03:27:56.420 Well, the point that I got was that he said a woman who's had sex with more people was more likely to replace you.

03:28:08.720 Yes.

03:28:09.260 And, like, not stick it out through a tough period.

03:28:11.080 And be less likely to, yeah.

03:28:14.240 But, like, that doesn't matter.

03:28:16.100 I've been in long-term relationships.

03:28:18.780 I mean, he's basically echoing a lot of the things that I said earlier on.

03:28:26.560 I don't know if you guys recall, I was saying something like, a girl who's been with 100 guys, like, it came down to, like, short-term pleasure-seeking and then versus long-term or delayed gratification.

03:28:40.000 Someone who's had a lot of sexual partners, they're less likely to be able to pair bond with you correctly.

03:28:47.780 They're less likely to fall in love with you, to be able to fall in love with you, to fall in love with you deeply.

03:28:53.340 So, he just says it a different way than I do.

03:28:57.180 So, I think that's what offends people.

03:29:00.500 But, like, you don't even believe in marriage.

03:29:02.120 So, at what point does, like, that love aspect really matter these days?

03:29:06.400 I mean, you can be.

03:29:07.060 Is love even true now?

03:29:08.440 Or is you just choosing to be with somebody?

03:29:10.120 Don't go down that road.

03:29:11.000 Don't go down that road.

03:29:11.680 Or are you just choosing to be with them?

03:29:12.920 Well, I mean, you can be in love with someone and not marry them.

03:29:16.780 But when it comes to this idea of, like, you fuck around, then you're going to have a harder time, you know, falling in love with somebody.

03:29:22.780 I don't think that's true.

03:29:23.880 I don't think that's true.

03:29:24.900 If somebody's slept with, like, 100, 200 people, their ability to fall in love with someone is probably fairly damaged.

03:29:36.940 Shit, maybe they know that that's exactly what they want.

03:29:38.880 Like, for me, it's like, you could be, there's going to be so many other people to have sex with, but I chose you.

03:29:45.880 You know what I mean?

03:29:47.620 I've had sex with other people.

03:29:49.040 I chose you at the end of the day.

03:29:50.560 And, like, I'm continuing to choose you.

03:29:52.300 I think that's the part that matters.

03:29:53.600 And I think, like, women with high body count, like, it's not always, like, oh, she's a slut, like, that's why she's fucking, like, no.

03:30:00.780 Like, people have sex to explore, figure out what they like, what they don't like.

03:30:04.500 I think where Andrew Tate stands is a fear of not having control over the woman.

03:30:08.500 And that's what is, like, really triggering him.

03:30:11.180 So.

03:30:11.740 That's the scary part.

03:30:12.860 Yeah.

03:30:13.060 I think he just doesn't, he probably, for some of the exact same reasons that I laid out why body count matters, it's why it matters to him, too.

03:30:23.680 I think body count matters more to men than it does to women.

03:30:28.040 I agree with you on that.

03:30:29.740 Which is very weird.

03:30:32.600 Why is it weird?

03:30:33.100 There are plenty of things that women value in men.

03:30:36.680 No, absolutely.

03:30:37.260 And the reverse, like, men don't care.

03:30:38.820 Absolutely.

03:30:39.220 Like, height, for example.

03:30:40.520 Absolutely.

03:30:40.920 Yeah, there are women that value height.

03:30:42.260 Absolutely.

03:30:42.900 A lot of men don't care so much about a woman's finances or career.

03:30:50.480 Some, certainly there are men who care.

03:30:52.600 It's everybody's preference.

03:30:53.740 Everyone has their preference.

03:30:54.740 Everybody, I'm a strong believer in everything happens for a reason and everybody has their person.

03:30:59.360 Just, like, everybody has their preference.

03:31:02.660 So.

03:31:02.900 Okay.

03:31:03.620 We're going to wrap up, guys.

03:31:05.500 Finally.

03:31:06.140 Finally.

03:31:06.880 We went really late.

03:31:09.060 Sorry to the panel, guys.

03:31:10.620 Terrell Xavier, $5 Soup Chat.

03:31:12.640 He just sang the reality.

03:31:14.120 All the women are, all the women are going after the same small group of men, which means chances are you're dating men with multiple girls.

03:31:23.480 Okay.

03:31:23.800 Thank you, Terrell, very much for the $5 Soup Chat.

03:31:26.680 Much appreciated.

03:31:27.220 And we got these chats from Entertain Me, Red Shirt Fit Check.

03:31:32.000 And then this guy, he wants a fit check from everyone.

03:31:36.260 So, like, an outfit check?

03:31:37.640 Yeah.

03:31:38.000 Okay.

03:31:38.620 They're in our photo.

03:31:39.320 So, I mean, if you guys want, I mean, fit check.

03:31:43.320 I got some sick shoes on.

03:31:44.940 Yeah.

03:31:45.660 Okay.

03:31:46.020 I guess you have to stand up.

03:31:48.460 I mean, he wants you guys to stand up.

03:31:50.900 I mean, I don't.

03:31:51.720 Do you care where our items are from?

03:31:53.740 Should we do, like, a haul?

03:31:56.120 Yeah.

03:31:56.520 I like this.

03:31:58.020 I feel like I'm with the girlies.

03:31:59.740 I'm not even in the house.

03:32:01.980 The shoes.

03:32:05.600 Okay.

03:32:06.620 Fit check.

03:32:08.220 I've been sitting for so long.

03:32:09.360 I mean, it's so late.

03:32:12.440 It's only, like, on, like, laps, right?

03:32:16.240 The what?

03:32:17.240 Like, the camera can only, like, take until the back.

03:32:21.240 Take a what?

03:32:21.880 Peace.

03:32:22.900 Wait, what are you talking?

03:32:23.820 I'm just going to lift my leg up and then I'll just put a shoe aspect.

03:32:27.160 Yo, you guys in the chat.

03:32:29.080 Okay.

03:32:29.500 We're going to do the same.

03:32:30.460 My top is from Target.

03:32:34.300 It's a $5 basic.

03:32:35.580 Get all your basics from Target.

03:32:37.460 You will not run your money.

03:32:39.120 Skirt is thrifted.

03:32:40.460 I'm wearing rainbow flip-flops.

03:32:44.120 Earrings are Urban Outfitters.

03:32:45.880 Gold USA.

03:32:47.120 Birthday gift.

03:32:50.040 Gift from my mom.

03:32:52.140 Gift from a friend.

03:32:53.800 Gift from my mom.

03:32:54.920 Yeah, my top is from a PR package called Slot Ready Find.

03:33:01.600 And my jeans is from, I think it's from Free People.

03:33:05.680 Wait, hold on.

03:33:06.900 Do it again, I think.

03:33:08.660 The jeans is from Free People and my, it's from Dr. Martin.

03:33:14.880 The chat.

03:33:16.060 The chat.

03:33:17.260 Okay.

03:33:18.560 All right.

03:33:19.120 If you guys just want to sit down, I'll wrap up real quick.

03:33:21.760 All right.

03:33:22.180 We have a super chat.

03:33:23.020 No strings attached TV.

03:33:24.020 Thank you for the Canadian $5.

03:33:25.480 If you become the women that men don't like you, you will be put in the sex only category.

03:33:30.540 No ring.

03:33:31.040 And men are okay with that.

03:33:32.520 Hey, no strings attached.

03:33:33.540 Thank you for the super chat, man.

03:33:34.600 Much appreciated.

03:33:35.780 All right.

03:33:35.980 We got to wrap up the show, guys.

03:33:38.320 Thank you so much, everyone, for tuning in.

03:33:41.000 Thank you to the viewers for watching.

03:33:43.940 Big thank you to the panel.

03:33:46.280 Much appreciated.

03:33:47.400 You guys were awesome.

03:33:48.680 Sorry that we went a bit late.

03:33:52.320 Convo was interesting.

03:33:54.020 To say the least.

03:33:56.020 Really appreciate you guys coming out.

03:33:57.560 You guys were awesome.

03:33:58.740 We will be live again Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific time.

03:34:04.040 And yeah, thanks again to the panel.

03:34:06.120 Yeah, I mean 7.05.

03:34:07.900 We're always five minutes late.

03:34:09.360 But yeah, thank you so much to the panel for coming.

03:34:11.260 Thank you guys for watching.

03:34:12.880 And we will see you next time.

03:34:14.440 See you guys.

03:34:16.580 Bye.

Whatever Podcast - February 02, 2023

Dating Talk #15

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