Dating Talk #71
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5 hours and 5 minutes
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178.75189
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269
Summary
On this episode of Whatever, the boys are joined by a very special guest to talk about a variety of topics, including: - What's the best thing to wear to a Halloween party? - What is the worst thing you can say to your friends and family about Halloween? - How do you feel about the new Star Wars movie Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes? - Is it good or bad? - What do you think of the new Pokemon Sword and Shield game? - Who's your favorite Pokemon character?
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further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves, so please tell us your name, age,
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and occupation. Go ahead. Hello. My name is Giselle. I am 22, and I stream on Twitch.
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What's your, what do you stream on Twitch? Video games? Just chatting? What I like to do is kind
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of more therapy, so if anyone is having any problems at home or in any type of relationships,
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they can come and talk to me. And you said you're 22, right? Yes. So you're a therapist? I'm not
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certified therapist. Okay. But what I do is basically like therapy. You give relationship
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advice. Advice. Ish. Okay. Got it. Okay, very cool. What about you? My name is Rihanna. I am 21,
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and I'm just a waitress. Just a waitress? No content creation? No. Just a waitress? Yeah. Okay,
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got it. What about you? Hi, I'm Destiny. I'm an artist, so I do music, and I'm also on TikTok.
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I'm basically on all platforms, and I'm a lash tech, and I do all my fans. Okay, wow. You wear many
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hats. Age? Oh, 21. 21. Okay, where are you from, by the way? I was raised in Oklahoma.
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And I stay in San Diego. Okay, I detect a bit of an accent, so. What is it? Are you from like the
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sticks? Yeah. In Oklahoma? Basically, it's the country. Okay. There we go. What about you?
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Hi, my name is Jen. I'm from Long Beach, California, but. The LBC? Yeah, but I stay in Ohio right now.
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Are you affiliated? Huh? No, but. Is that the word? I got a couple people that are. Oh, okay. Yeah.
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How old are you? I'm 19. And then your occupation? I'm a travel nurse, and I do OnlyFans.
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Wait, did you just say. And I'm a dancer. Wait, hold on. Travel nurse? Yeah.
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You're an RN? No, I'm working. Closer to the mic. Yeah, I'm working towards my OPN,
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but I'm a travel, like, phlebotomist, so. That's a little different than the travel nurse.
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Well, categorize it kind of the same. Well, phlebotomist, I mean, it's the entry level to
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become a phlebotomist is substantially lower than a nurse. Right. So, could you look at my
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veins later and tell me if I've got, like, good? Yeah, for sure. Okay, cool. Yeah. Okay,
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and then you also do OnlyFans. Yeah. Have you ever thought of combining the two? Phlebotomy?
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Yeah, I never thought of it. And OnlyFans. I don't really know how I can kind of put those
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together. Maybe I can figure out later. There's something for everybody. Okay. How long have
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you been doing OnlyFans? Probably about four months now. Four months. Okay, got it. Cool.
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What about you? Hi, I'm Kelly. I'm 21. I'm a student, and I'm a branded stylist through
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Nordstrom, and I also do content creation and social media for them. For Nordstrom?
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Mm-hmm. Oh, cool. Okay. Hi, my name is Apelinaria. I am 25 years old. I am studying in Santa Monica
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College for my prerequisites for a master's, and also working at a startup. Okay.
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Hi, my name is Ksenia. I'm from Russia, but I've been traveling a lot, and I also moved
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to different countries. I've been living in Austria, and now I'm here. I just finished UCLA
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in application programming, so I'm in tech, and in the future, I want to start my startup
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I'm 25. 25. Okay. How many languages do you two speak?
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I speak free. Oh, by the way, we've been knowing each other for 17 years, so yeah. We're both
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from the same city in Russia, apparently. Smolensk? No. Is that Russia? It is. Or is
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that Poland? It's very random that you know Smolensk.
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No, not from Smolensk. It's just, there's this famous painting by a Polish painter. Anyways,
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My name is Lauren. I do content creation, and I am 29.
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I'm on YouTube. My YouTube channel is called Lauren de Laguna, and I just graduated law school,
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and I just passed the bar, so I do. Congrats. Thanks. So I do like some legal stuff, and
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we also do morning news. We do interviews, but our crown jewel of Lauren de Laguna is our
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like Judge Judy type show, where I'm the judge, and it's called Lauren Order, so yeah.
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So you're like hearing like, are you arbitrating small claims type stuff, or what?
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Well, you know, if we do have people who are actually in real life court, we put their
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issues, their real life issues over our content creation, so we try to wait for real life issues
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to wrap up. For instance, we had this award-winning journalist, Aiden Carney, aka Turtle Boy, and
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he was accused of harassing a person, and they had a whole hit, the person, some other person,
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other content creator accused him of harassing someone, and they had the whole debate on my
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show, but they did it after the legal decision was already decided in real court, and he won
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in real court. Okay, and are you currently actually practicing law, or? So you have to wait for
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something called character and fitness, and I just passed the bar in Florida, so I'm just waiting
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for all of that, and hopefully all of that finishes soon, and then I could get sworn in, and then I
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will be working. Yeah, I'm very excited for that. What kind of law are you going to be practicing?
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Previously, so right after law school, I went into public defense work, and I really enjoyed
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that, and I'm currently speaking with a public defense office in Florida, and I really, I've
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spoken to a lot of the employees there, and they're just so wonderful, and so I hope to work in that
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office as soon as I'm certified. Okay, very cool, very cool.
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Hello, my name is John, and I am 44 years old, and I am the creator of the It's Complicated
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channel on YouTube, also known as the Rules of Modern Dating and Understanding Women. I frequent
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the Las Vegas Strip, and I just interview random people and ask them questions about dating.
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It's a really good channel, guys. Go check it out, and let's see. How long have you been
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I think it's about over three years now. What was your occupation before that?
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I would sell collectibles on eBay. I worked at a music venue, and yeah, that's pretty much.
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Okay, got it. Got it. Okay, cool. So we're going to go around the table once more. Current
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relationship status, so are you single? You got friends with benefits, talking stage, situationship,
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relationship, engaged, married, and also what is your longest relationship? Go ahead.
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Okay. I'm single, and my longest relationship was a little over a year.
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Okay, so that was your most recent relationship, too? Or you've had something in between?
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No, no, no, no. Okay, so my longest one was, like, three years ago, and then my most recent
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I'm single. I, the longest relationship I have, I think it's, it was a little over a
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Um, complicated, and my longest relationship was, like, six years.
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Complicated. Okay. Well, what do you mean, what do you mean by it's complicated? Go subscribe.
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Like, I mean, it's, like, it's kind of just stuff happening, like, now. You know what I'm
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Like, it was cool up until, like, the past couple days. So it's, like, it's recent. So
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How long have you been seeing the, it's complicated guy? Not.
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Five months. But recently, as of a couple days ago, there's been some conflict.
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Oh, yeah. No, we was living together. Like, we lived together and everything, so.
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We're literally in the process of basically, like, splitting up our apartments and everything,
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But it's toxic, because we're, like, staying together right now. So it's, like, you know
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Okay. But you're living together. Has either of you brought someone else to the pad?
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I mean, you said I can, because I would beat a bitch up.
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I could, like, you know, toss him over or something.
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So, why is it, has it been on the rocks for a while, or?
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I don't, but it's kind of, like, we're two different people.
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I see, like, two different paths, and it's kind of, you know?
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That's why I say it's complicated, because, I don't know.
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In the process of, who, was there, has there been, like, a definitive breakup conversation?
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Like, it's, um, I don't know how to explain it.
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Has there been a conversation where, like, we're done?
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Or have you, are you guys just in conflict right now?
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We're, like, back and forth, because it's, like, we live together, so we try to work it out.
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Is there a chance of reconciliation here, you know?
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Um, my longest relationship was two and a half years.
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I'm also in a relationship and this is my current longest one.
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Uh, for two and a half years, we've been official.
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Um, I'm single and my longest were around two and a half years.
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And it was around a year and a half ago before I moved to Los Angeles.
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And, um, and I don't think I've ever really had any very long-term relationships.
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Um, you don't think you've had many, any long-term relationships?
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I've had like situationships that were long-term on and off again, but nothing that I would
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What's the longest period of time that you've, uh, seen somebody?
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You've had a two and a half year situationship?
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I wouldn't consider that a legitimate relationship.
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Were you dating other people during this on and off again, 2.5 year situationship?
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I'd go on dates with people, but like get dinner, see if it works, but I wouldn't have
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Um, because you were still caught up on 2.5 year men?
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Oh, you just didn't meet a guy that you liked enough, I guess.
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Uh, I'm moving to Florida because I just passed the Florida bar.
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Yeah, yeah, but you're not currently living in Florida, but you passed the bar in Florida?
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Oh, yeah, because I'm waiting for character and fitness, so I figured it'd be easier to
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move in with family, save that money, save that scrilla.
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Yeah, I'm content creating, yo, I'm not a lawyer yet, so.
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Sure, so you've never, but you've never had someone that you would consider a boyfriend?
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There's, uh, there's a person that I really liked, but we, we dated for such a short period
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of time, it'd be ridiculous to call that love, so I don't really know who, I have some idea
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of some person, but I'm sure that person is not the man he really is.
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Wait, how long, how long of a period of time was that?
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Like, less than a month, I just really, really connected with him very strongly, and then
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I definitely wouldn't call that, but that name came to mind.
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So that, was that your, you would say your strongest connection you've ever had?
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Did you have stronger feelings for month man than 2.5 year man?
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After month man and I broke up, I, like, called 2.5 year man and was like, can I just, like,
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And we tried, and then, because he was just kind of, like, a, he was always there.
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I like that we've, we've assigned nicknames to them based on the length of these situations.
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Why, why do you think you've not had a boyfriend?
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I'm, I'm picky, and then also when I meet a guy that I like, I could be a little bit.
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Like, okay, if you say, if you say you're going to do something, I really expect you
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to do it, and that's for anyone, females or males, and it's just, I find when, especially
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with dating, like, you tell me you're going to be at a restaurant at this time, do it.
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Why are, why do men struggle with that so much?
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It's not just a man struggle, it's a woman struggle, too.
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It's a societal struggle that I think that all of society is, I, my girlfriend the other
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day, Faith, I love you, I'm going to call you out, girl.
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Um, she showed up, like, two days, and, like, she kept postponing our lunch date, and then
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when we finally had the lunch date, she was an hour late, that girl, Faith.
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So then, if that's your friend that's doing that, how come you don't have the same expectations
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I told her, like, if you keep doing this, I'd find, I'll show you our text afterwards,
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I was like, I find this really disrespectful, we had a conversation about it, yada yada,
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but if you try to have that conversation with your, like, a guy that you just start dating,
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excuse me, sir, sit down, I'm finding the way that you treat me very disrespectful, yada
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da, you're not going to be in a relationship much longer, I don't know, I'm not someone's
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Okay, so being late is a major problem for you.
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Just, I agree with you, justifiably so, you said you were picky, and then you also said
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you had high expectations, so besides punctuality, what else?
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Okay, I want you to be, I don't, I suppose I don't care if you're highly educated as long
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as you are pursuing, like, something worthwhile, so for instance, if you are starting a business,
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like, plumbers do a great job, like, anyone going to trade school, welding, stuff like that,
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that's awesome, or high ambitions with education, I need to see that ambition,
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and I'm seeing just such a lack of, in just society in general.
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It sounds like you want somebody who follows through, accountability is follow through.
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Oh my god, these are all people from, that love and hate me, all my haters and my fans
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Hi y'all, that glow, why are you hating me right now?
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I am currently single, my longest relationship was over, just over three years, it's probably
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been about six years since that relationship ended.
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I still, you know, am friendly and fond with that person, but, you know, it just, irreconcilable
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differences, I guess you would call it, I don't know.
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No, no, no, I don't know what that means, honestly.
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I just, we're just, you know, but, you know, no hard feelings, basically, so.
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Um, while I do believe that, uh, families are very important, uh, I believe that marriage
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is kind of the worst contract a man can sign, I think that it's just extremely dangerous,
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uh, to do that, and I think that there's real no, there's really nothing that a married
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couple can do that an unmarried couple can't do, so.
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So, I think, honestly, uh, relationships are, are almost, in my opinion, stronger when
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either one can leave at any time, and the only reason you stay together is because you
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want to be and not because you're obligated to.
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Question, so you do this, your YouTube show, how often do you post videos, like once a
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Uh, it takes a while sometimes, but, uh, I try to get them out at the most, uh, or,
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sorry, at the latest every two weeks, but, um, if I could get them out, you know, multiple
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Question for you, have you ever dated any of the women or girls you've interviewed?
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Uh, not, not, not, not dated, but there was, you know,
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a time where I kind of, you know, just hung out and spent some quality time with somebody.
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Um, but not like, you know, I mean, a lot of people are tourists, so they're kind of like
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All right, so I, I do want to go around a bit here again, because we had a lot of people
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here who are single, so, uh, what does being single actually mean, you know, uh, so, because
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I, I have a sense of what being single means, but, uh, so are you currently talking to somebody?
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There's somebody, come on, there's someone in the picture, right?
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I used to, well, I, I had a little bit of a bump in the road with somebody, but, like.
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I mean, like, I was seeing this person for a couple months, but, like, I, I tend to do
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things that, like, I shouldn't be doing, you know, so, like.
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Just, like, um, like, homeboy would be, like, oh, we're together, you know, da, da, da,
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or, and then be, like, acting like I'm crazy if I find something out, you know, like, of
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him going and doing something with somebody else, and I caught him doing it one night,
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and I, like, chased him in the car down the road and stuff.
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I didn't, like, run him over or anything like that, like, I would just, like, want him to
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So, you were trying to run him over, but not really?
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No, like, he was driving his car, and I was driving another car, like, side by side,
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So, let's reenact, so, um, what's your name again?
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I want you guys to, like, put your hands on the steering wheel.
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I was just, like, oh, my gosh, I'm, like, so crazy.
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Wait, by the way, was your, is he your boyfriend?
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But he was, like, it was, like, he told me he had went to bed, and I was, it's so crazy.
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He lives down the same road as my sister, right?
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So he had told me he, like, went to bed, like, an hour before, and I just so happened to, like,
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And as I was driving past, like, this plaza area where, like, In-N-Out and stuff was, this
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So while I turned around and went and parked in the plaza, because we were going to push
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this car out of the road, as soon as I'm, like, backing up, I see him, I lock eyes with
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him, and he just, like, kept driving, because there's, like, a stoplight, so he has to wait.
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I'm, like, running after that, like, crazy, because I'm, like, ready for bed, like,
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Jose, does he, is he both hands on the wheel, or is he, like, a one?
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Well, he's, like, he's a pretty booked dude, so he's, like, always like this.
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I feel like just like it, but, yeah, it was just, like, you know, after you see something
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like that, I'm, like, oh, crap, like, get in the car.
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I was telling my sister, like, get back in the car, and she's, like, no, so we pushed it
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out, and I, like, whipped around and drove all the way to his apartments, and he pulled
00:28:49.020
out at the same time, so we're just, like, she's here, and I'm here, and he tries to,
00:28:54.840
like, duke me out at, like, a stoplight or whatever, like, he thought he was going to turn
00:28:59.120
Like, well, he ended up turning, and I was on the other side of him because, like, you
00:29:24.840
Like, everything was slow, but everything was so quick.
00:29:27.360
I had to, like, snap back and be, like, oh, crap, I can't be doing this.
00:29:31.640
Like, no, not, like, I'm crazy, but, like, it's pretty stupid to do that over, like, a man,
00:29:46.300
Wait, so, was there a woman in the car with him?
00:29:53.400
So, that's what popped out to me, because if he was just.
00:30:17.300
It goes from, I dye it from, like, brown to blonde all the time.
00:30:27.460
What were your thoughts on the woman that was in the car with him?
00:30:50.880
You know, like, when you're driving a car and it's like.
00:30:57.840
Yeah, he definitely saw me because I was walking up to his car.
00:31:01.160
So, you were in your car and he was in his car.
00:31:11.120
So, yeah, he was coming like this and I had just parked.
00:31:13.980
And he got out of the car because I wanted to make sure there was him.
00:31:22.500
Can you pop your, it's just clanging on the table.
00:31:26.880
You saw him with trifling with this blonde woman.
00:31:38.160
So, it's just, like, you know when you see something that really bugs you and you just, like, have that quick moment.
00:31:42.580
What if it was, like, a cousin or a sister or a mom?
00:32:12.020
The others on stream, do not simp and sub to these Twitch slasher.
00:32:21.660
This blonde thought is making me dumber by the moment.
00:32:57.520
Well, we are from Russia, which is a completely different country.
00:33:00.980
Cheeks is a common Russian, like a Slavic last name, isn't it?
00:33:07.120
Well, maybe a little bit, somewhere, yeah, but not in Russian.
00:33:24.060
You see trifling, boyfriend, prostitute, situation shit, prostitute, drug dealing.
00:33:36.480
No, no, no, but like, he's got a black Dodge Charger.
00:33:43.440
Yeah, that's more of a military car, to be honest.
00:34:04.780
Because if my boyfriend was trifling like that, I might be tempted to trifle myself.
00:34:13.000
Yeah, but I didn't have a rebound like, right away, because I was more like, I guess like,
00:34:19.120
man, I had to take a step back from, you know, like everything going on.
00:34:23.240
But, I ended up having one when I went out to North Carolina, but that's it.
00:34:54.080
Why don't you, when you say a couple, are we talking a baker's dozen?
00:35:15.300
Like, I get down with a girl, but like, relationship-wise, I'm not there yet.
00:35:37.940
Nowhere in your annually, incoherent responses did you come close to anything that could be
00:35:45.220
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
00:36:19.140
I feel like I have that on my soundboard somewhere.
00:36:25.300
You were talking about your rotations and girls.
00:36:27.060
I like athletes, so it's a little difficult for me.
00:36:34.060
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
00:36:39.860
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response.
00:36:52.700
Like, I used to really, like, mess with football players, but I'm leaning a lot towards basketball
00:37:23.740
I mean, if you want to name drop, you can name drop.
00:37:44.460
Because there's two from the same team, but I'm not going to say that.
00:37:47.200
And then, like, the one you rarely see is playing college ball?
00:37:52.200
I got two that's playing college ball, and then I got another one.
00:37:56.660
I got two that's about to go into the draft this year.
00:38:05.180
There's more than four, but there's, like, a four that, like...
00:38:08.980
There's, like, a four that I text on, like, a daily basis, like, hi, good morning.
00:38:14.880
Well, like, they either text me or I text them.
00:38:17.940
There's a thing in your phone where you can actually automate text messages to go out.
00:38:25.460
I forgot, it's in the automation setting, so you might want to look into that, just so
00:38:28.840
you can automate the good morning text, you know?
00:38:31.800
I think they could also automate it based off when they leave their house.
00:38:48.300
I don't think I've messed with anybody in the NFL right now.
00:38:52.120
Maybe in the past, but previously there was some NFL?
00:39:04.280
But, so currently you're seeing three NBA players.
00:39:32.500
I just expect a good time whenever we go, like...
00:39:35.760
Whether it's vacations or they fly me out to their house
00:39:39.160
and we do whatever we do there or wherever they're at, like...
00:39:54.920
I don't think she knows the difference between a football and a basketball.
00:40:01.860
Hey, Nick, can you pass me the rugby ball over there?
00:40:22.680
Rugby players who are watching, her DMs are open.
00:40:30.060
Is there an extra level of expectation when somebody does some grand romantic gesture?
00:40:37.360
Like, if somebody set up, like, a nice date for me, is it, like...
00:40:40.620
Like, do you believe that men initially do really nice things for women because they want sex?
00:40:48.420
Like, the further a man goes for you, he's definitely trying a lot harder to get to that point than somebody just not doing nothing.
00:40:57.380
So, if so, why would a woman ever accept an extravagant offer from a man if she wasn't interested in having sex?
00:41:07.380
I think accepting the offer and then even, like, change your mind later, it really just depends.
00:41:19.920
How would you feel about reimbursing a man if that relationship didn't end up happening?
00:41:26.600
If he wanted to pay for whatever, do whatever, that's...
00:41:34.380
Once you, once you're, like, talking to somebody...
00:41:36.600
I feel like you already know if you're gonna have sex with them or not.
00:41:40.220
So, it's, like, at that point, are you really just leading them on if you're accepting everything that they're giving,
00:41:45.180
knowing that you aren't gonna have sex with them?
00:41:48.600
Just when you're speaking, I do need you a little closer to the microphone.
00:41:55.720
Then, obviously, I have some type of intention towards him.
00:42:00.120
But, more than likely, if I really don't like him, I'm gonna just let him know.
00:42:06.120
When you first meet a guy, how do you know whether he's going to be a friend or more than a friend?
00:42:12.960
Because it's often said a woman will know right away.
00:42:15.320
It's really, based off that first conversation, just how their vibe is.
00:42:21.680
If they're, like, quiet and, like, just kind of, like, hi, how are you?
00:42:27.540
But, like, they don't know how to, like, really have a conversation with me, then it's probably not gonna go no further.
00:42:32.720
But, if they're, like, kind of comfortable with me, like, talking, like, cracking jokes, like, just being comfortable.
00:42:41.220
But, I'm saying, if most women would know right away, and then they're willing to accept and extravagant offer from a man,
00:42:46.140
isn't that almost, like, you know, in a way, consenting to the possibility of, I'm interested in, you know...
00:42:54.140
Why would you accept the offer if you wasn't interested?
00:42:58.880
How do you, um, did you have more questions, or...?
00:43:12.580
I, personally, I don't like to message nobody, because if you don't like me, then you don't like me, and that's just that.
00:43:20.920
I've played a game, though, like, you know, you like their photos.
00:43:24.140
Or, like, I don't comment on nobody's stuff, but, like, if they have highlights, you like their highlights.
00:43:33.060
Like, why not to just talk to them, potentially, or make the first move?
00:43:36.740
Well, you never know what somebody got going on.
00:43:39.580
Like, not everybody posts their, like, significant other.
00:43:43.200
So, if they're putting that, like, effort towards me, then I'm gonna go for it.
00:43:51.940
So, for you, it's mostly to make sure that they are single?
00:44:00.640
You just never know, because they be DMing you, and they're not single.
00:44:11.540
I'm not gonna out that one person, but they are currently in a relationship.
00:44:32.400
I'm not having sex with all four, but, like, currently talking to and, like, interacting,
00:44:37.540
like, calling, texting, snapping, FaceTiming on a day.
00:44:47.340
Well, their schedule's busy, so it's not like I could just go hook up with one of my little things.
00:45:00.040
Is there potential to hook up with all of them on the table?
00:45:32.740
Some of them, I've only got them flown out, like, once.
00:45:59.680
Anarchy Sheik wants her super chats acknowledged.
00:46:04.620
Those are all the people from my, like, YouTube community.
00:46:52.260
Like, what if they have a really good, like, micro?
00:46:53.880
Like, would you be attracted to a dude who's just, like, micro?
00:47:13.980
But you primarily prefer, like, proper athletes, not like, you know, gamers, you know?
00:47:24.240
What if you found out that gamers actually made more money than ballers?
00:47:43.320
Some of them, the top guys can make a lot of money.
00:47:45.280
But, okay, so you're currently also seeing a baseball player or multiple baseball players?
00:47:54.020
What is the league for the, what is it, the, what's the league for baseball?
00:48:29.840
Okay, so, and you said you meet most of them through Instagram.
00:48:37.480
Is there any reason, like, are you not wanting to date just one?
00:48:44.880
Well, if one showed me that he was, like, really pursuing me, like, because I'm a little
00:49:00.960
Do you think that women have the privilege of being more picky because they have more
00:49:07.060
Why do you think that so many women today are so reluctant to admit that they have privilege?
00:49:16.860
I feel like some girls just don't want to be perceived in a certain light, so they just
00:49:22.580
try to keep things open instead of just, if they feel some type of way, they just stand
00:49:28.400
Plus, there's a difference between privilege in dating and privilege in life, but definitely
00:49:36.240
I think how is, isn't dating a huge aspect of life?
00:49:44.580
I think a lot of women do, unfortunately, have trouble with taking accountability, and
00:49:57.860
Why do women choose the male role while also resenting the less salaried man?
00:50:02.940
Men traditionally are providers, yet 47S50Ks often won't look down on her.
00:50:08.060
But if a woman provides, she often resents the man when she forcibly switched the roles.
00:50:17.920
Why do women choose the male role while also resenting the less salaried man?
00:50:27.860
I think that there comes more of a victim mindset, maybe because women tend to lead more emotionally.
00:50:38.400
So just being emotional goes hand in hand with claiming victimhood?
00:50:44.260
I think not necessarily, but I think that they don't take too much of the time to step back
00:50:51.040
and logically think to proceed, if that makes any sense.
00:50:55.520
Do you think there's a level of power and privilege that comes with victimhood?
00:51:06.300
I think that they want to be seen as not privileged because it kind of intertwines with also being less than victim mindset.
00:51:15.640
I mean, is it possible for women to be strong and independent but also victims?
00:51:20.840
Yo, Eric, I think you need to boost your microphone a little bit.
00:51:24.180
Strong and independent in the sense of, you know, they're taking care of themselves maybe financially and everything like that.
00:51:39.620
One in the chat if the volume's a bit better or two in the chat if we still need to boost it a little bit.
00:51:48.420
Yeah, I'm talking to a couple of other regular guys.
00:51:54.820
A regular guy is just someone who's not an NBA, somebody who's not a rapper, someone who's not in the industry.
00:52:09.160
I try to be with somebody a little bit more well-off.
00:52:13.840
Well, first off, I'm, like, I appreciate just your forthcomingness and honesty, sharing all that.
00:52:22.900
That's certainly pretty impressive to me, although I think it's not uncommon, especially, you live in Los Angeles, correct?
00:52:43.140
So, I come back here almost, like, every other month because the majority of my family does, like, still live here.
00:52:55.220
Just, I want to ask everyone else at the table here.
00:52:57.880
So, she's dating or has dated multiple NBA players, NFL players, some other athletes.
00:53:27.000
Do, does it start with a D and end with a rake?
00:53:50.260
You don't care about the, like, loving relationship with a man?
00:54:00.120
So, I'm sure each of you has a celebrity crush, right?
00:54:05.300
If, if each of you had the opportunity to hook up with your celebrity crush, would you
00:54:12.240
So, when a woman says I'm not that type of girl, is she really saying I'm not the type of
00:54:16.960
girl with you, but I am that type of girl with my celebrity crush?
00:54:21.940
So, wouldn't that mean that women will make rules for the wrong guy, but break rules for
00:54:37.400
I want to open this up to the rest of the table.
00:54:39.820
So, and I know Instagram recently, anyone can get a blue check mark now, so it's not a
00:54:45.560
big deal, but like, before that, have any of you here been contacted via Instagram by
00:54:53.760
someone with a blue check mark prior to the recent changes?
00:54:57.620
So, we're talking a famous athlete, musician, actor, whatever it may be.
00:55:05.220
However, if I do not feel a connection with them, I do not take it further.
00:55:09.260
Have you taken it further with a blue check mark person?
00:55:12.680
I guess I've dated someone, but that was a serious relationship.
00:55:38.420
But I'm sure you've gotten a blue check mark in your DMs.
00:55:56.060
I'm not going to say they're easy, but they are.
00:56:41.220
I mean, if you had to put a number on it, how many times have you been flown out by a guy?
00:57:00.040
So he flew you out because you're in Ohio, but he flew you out to LA?
00:57:04.720
A lot of them are in LA right now for, like, workouts and stuff.
00:57:13.560
Do they know that you're on here, and do they know about each other?
00:57:20.800
But if they see me, we're probably going to talk about it later.
00:57:37.260
He didn't score enough points in his last game?
00:57:40.800
To be honest, I don't really watch their games much, unless I'm there at the game.
00:57:47.440
Has a guy ever who was in the NBA flown you out, and then you go and see his game?
00:57:54.600
Do you get courtside, or you're, like, in the back?
00:57:58.760
I mean, I could ask him for courtside, but I'd rather not make anything too obvious.
00:58:08.740
Has there ever been a situation where an NBA player...
00:58:19.980
Have you ever been seeing a guy from both teams, and they're playing against each other?
00:58:34.040
From the Indiana Pacers, when they was playing against the Bucs.
00:58:44.460
Well, I know their positions, but I don't know them off the top of my head.
00:58:58.380
A lot of you talk about wanting this high-value guy.
00:59:02.240
Would you be more interested in sharing a high-value man with another woman or having an average
00:59:14.260
But for me, dating now, it's definitely different.
00:59:20.720
I guess as long as I'm taking care of my tuition, taking care of car notes, taking care of living...
00:59:32.580
Yo, Flan Life, thank you for the 50 gifted memberships.
00:59:40.840
You were saying that your tuition is paid for, your car note is paid for.
00:59:44.500
So you have the guys who you're seeing, is it the NBA players that are paying for this?
00:59:53.700
I'm just saying, from that point, when he asked me, okay, are you okay with sharing a
00:59:58.480
Honestly, as long as he's not all up in my face, like he just brought another girl over
01:00:02.560
and I'm there, I'm not about to go look through your phone and make something of something
01:00:10.160
So as long as you don't know about it, you're okay with it.
01:00:14.280
Yeah, and now I'm obviously being taken care of.
01:00:18.020
And so the question is, would they rather share a high status guy or get commitment,
01:00:33.500
Well, let's go around the table on his question.
01:00:36.020
So would you rather have a really high status guy?
01:00:41.360
Let's maybe in this example, she's the main chick.
01:00:45.640
She's the main chick, but there's going to be side chicks.
01:00:48.580
Or do you get monogamy commitment, but from like a normal guy?
01:00:57.320
You're the main chick for your celebrity crush, but there's going to be some other chicks involved.
01:01:04.640
I find it really special because it is a choice that we make.
01:01:08.480
So I would go for the average committed relationship.
01:01:13.740
One in the chat, if the volume on her microphone's okay.
01:01:17.460
One in the chat, if her audio's okay or if it's too low.
01:01:33.120
Would you rather share a high-status guy or get monogamy from a normal, average guy?
01:01:44.800
I think I would definitely share if it's a high-status guy.
01:01:54.060
It's like, yeah, if you keep it on low, don't tell me about it.
01:01:59.020
But, like, if we have to, like, be able to discuss that, though, and say, like, this is what this is, you know, rather than being blindsided about it, even though it's, like, you know.
01:02:15.160
So some people want to know and some people don't want to know, which I think is interesting.
01:02:21.300
It just depends, because it's like, if you're dating a more valued man or high-valued man,
01:02:27.740
and he has, like, like, y'all have no connection, like, are you saying, like, you would have a connection with that person
01:02:33.340
and they're talking to other people and doing, like, stuff with other people?
01:02:41.980
Yeah, I would definitely have to be, like, I don't know, communicated and I'd have to be taken care of for real if I was.
01:02:49.700
Like, is emotional taking care of a factor at all?
01:02:55.240
That is, because it's like, if I don't feel no connection with that person, I'm not going to be there and be like, yeah, I'm with him just so that he takes care of me.
01:03:03.560
But what, if you had kids with this person, would you care then?
01:03:09.560
Or, like, if I, I feel like I would know before it got to the point of children if I really had a connection with that person.
01:03:16.140
But why date anyone if you're not, like, eventually trying to get to?
01:03:19.860
It's true, but you're also, like, trying to learn people.
01:03:22.840
Like, nobody's going to show you who they truly are at first, you know?
01:03:27.020
Like, it's kind of like you learn more about people and then make the decision as you go.
01:03:30.960
So you want to go from, like, polyamorous to monogamous eventually?
01:03:35.120
So, like, for instance, if you like a man, but you're in some sort of polyamorous relationship or noncommittal relationship, and then you want to turn that into a husband, you just plan on him switching to monogamy now?
01:03:54.240
Well, a lot of the time, I'm going to be honest, if you're doing that with that man, you know, he already got his other things.
01:04:07.000
Unless, like, y'all really talk and y'all really, like, okay, like, I'm messing with you.
01:04:11.360
Like, I've tried all these other people and it's just not working.
01:04:15.040
I keep coming back to you, then you guys can have that talk.
01:04:17.460
But more than likely, if you are trying to really settle down and you're with somebody like that, it's just not going to work.
01:04:23.540
So just to continue going around the table on this, would you rather share a high-status guy, you're the main chick, but he's going to have side chicks, or get monogamy from, like, average normal dude?
01:04:38.840
I would rather be with somebody who has a good life together.
01:04:47.720
Some people don't date for kids and, like, oh, I need him to be all about me, like, marriage, marriage, marriage.
01:04:55.580
Like, if I'm looking for a good vibe and he give that to me and he's respectful, because a lot of them are respectful, to me at least.
01:05:09.020
If they come into play, then I'll have that conversation when I have kids.
01:05:24.520
Am I sharing you with another woman all the time?
01:05:27.920
Or is it that my husband went on vacation, he fucked a bitch in Brazil and came back home to me, never going to see her again?
01:05:55.000
Or am I the queen, and then he, guys are going to get horny anywhere they go.
01:06:01.940
He goes on vacation, some big booty bitch is on him, and he fucks up.
01:06:06.740
But it's, like, if we were married for 20 years, is that, and we have kids, that's not really fair of me to just, done, go away.
01:06:15.420
If it just happened once, and you're never going to see this woman again.
01:06:18.060
Would you see that almost more of, like, emotional cheating versus just sexual gratification?
01:06:22.680
That would just be, like, sexual gratification.
01:06:25.860
So it's, like, it's just more logical to not leave you if that's the situation that happened.
01:06:33.120
But then it's, like, if you're allowing another woman to feel the same way that I'm feeling,
01:06:38.020
and you're letting another woman feel like she's in the same position as me, then that's completely different.
01:06:51.860
What about, like, once a quarter, he, like, hooks up some chick in.
01:07:10.040
If it happened, like, if it happened, like, we were married for 10 years and it happened, it would be really easy.
01:07:22.380
Flan life, we will get the fit check here in just a sec.
01:07:24.360
I just want to finish going around on this table, so.
01:07:26.780
Like, it's just, if you have kids with that person and you have a marriage with that person and you have, like, you know,
01:07:31.860
you've built your life with this person already and they cheated because they were horny,
01:07:39.480
They're loiter than you guys are just going to cheat.
01:07:46.920
Of course there's a lot of men that are loyal, but, like, it is in, it's in a lot of men's nature that's, like,
01:07:52.660
they're, it's hard to have them commit to one person, commit to one woman, and, you know,
01:07:57.920
it's hard for one man to go 20, 25, 30, 40 years with one woman, and I, like, I'm not going to say,
01:08:07.120
We're going to think other guys are attractive.
01:08:09.100
I'm pretty sure we have more control over that as women, but, you know, a man, it's really hard for,
01:08:14.920
I know that it's going to be really hard for one man to be having sex, just sex with one person for that long of a time.
01:08:35.500
Like, your dad, like, I'm saying your stepdad is able to remain in a monogamous relationship with your mom,
01:08:43.720
If my mom had kids with my stepdad and he cheated on her, she wouldn't divorce him.
01:08:57.720
Well, slightly bloke, but also the talk about divorce, because Vietnamese culture doesn't really...
01:09:10.080
Girl in red, what's your end goal with NBA players?
01:09:18.040
Those players have busloads of women lining up for them for the same thing.
01:09:22.020
Dot, why do you think they'll do more for you besides just running through you?
01:09:42.140
Rather than just getting fucked by some random who don't have nothing to him,
01:10:05.100
Even the euphemism, I just don't understand why you need to...
01:10:08.540
Do you actually gain that much from having sex with these men?
01:10:16.280
I mean, it's not more so like, oh my God, I'm gaining so much from fucking this dude.
01:10:26.660
How many times do you get to fuck an NBA player?
01:10:28.440
How many times do you get to flown out, go to games, and do all this extra stuff?
01:10:48.940
Yeah, so apparently, a lot of times, you'll have that opportunity.
01:10:54.740
Well, it really just depends on how the girl looks.
01:11:01.980
I'm not saying anybody can just, like, have a DM or start liking everybody's pictures and somebody's going to talk to you.
01:11:15.640
So, would you rather share a high-status guy or get monogamy from a normal guy?
01:11:20.980
Well, if I was not in the relationship, definitely a normal guy.
01:11:29.140
I think Lauren is too smart for the rest of this panel.
01:11:32.560
She is growing on me and making something grow on me, LOL.
01:11:50.560
So, if I was not dating my boyfriend, then I would definitely choose an average guy that was loyal.
01:11:56.360
But I am lucky and I got a high-value status man all to myself.
01:12:06.560
When you say he's a high-value man, what do you mean?
01:12:18.140
So, like, a high-value man or him as a high-value man?
01:12:26.440
Well, because I could be just describing him, but it's not necessarily that what it takes to be a high-value man.
01:12:46.500
I mean, there's other metrics, but that's one potential component of it.
01:12:51.160
Would you say that looks, money, and status are part of that equation for most women?
01:12:57.940
I think one of the most important things for me is his intelligence, but for most women, I agree.
01:13:06.640
If a man typically has to have looks, money, and status in order to attract lots of beautiful women, how is the man not considered the prize?
01:13:17.040
But I'm saying when you ask people when it comes to dating and relationships who's typically seen as the prize, the man or the woman, most people say the woman.
01:13:40.400
I don't really know because sometimes it's just different on different, like, standards and...
01:14:13.120
I think that my man, for me, is a prize, but I hope that I am his prize.
01:14:22.120
I think that both are prize for each other because men choose women and women choose men,
01:14:42.120
Bringing it to you, high-status man, but you're sharing him.
01:14:48.600
Well, I'm actually into monogamy, so, for me, it would be very difficult to share someone.
01:14:55.020
I would be very jealous, even though, before that, I didn't think that I'm jealous.
01:14:58.900
I mean, not before that, but, like, when I was younger, I didn't think that I'm jealous,
01:15:04.620
And I also think that every man can be successful in life, especially if they have goal and if they
01:15:10.760
have brain, they can definitely be, so, and if they want, yeah, of course, if they want
01:15:19.200
Isn't it somewhat common, at least this is what I've heard, in Russia, for there to be
01:15:39.400
I would not know, probably, but not as far as, like, the people that I know.
01:15:50.600
And also, I kind of take issue with the question, because you're talking about high-valued
01:15:58.660
I think you could say high-earning man, maybe, so are we just talking about, does a man have
01:16:06.080
I feel like, essentially, the question is, if a man has a lot of money, would you let him
01:16:11.400
And it's like, no, it doesn't matter how much money my man makes, I want my man to be.
01:16:17.320
It's not even so much about being loyal to me, it's more about being a good role model
01:16:23.640
as a father, and I don't want to be with a man who I don't think would make a good father
01:16:29.300
to my kids, so, and I wouldn't want my kids to see their dad running around with other
01:16:40.240
By the way, Flann Life, thank you for the extra gifted subs.
01:16:44.480
Like, did you have a string that you wanted to continue with?
01:16:47.780
Well, I was just going to say, I'd be willing to share myself with multiple women.
01:16:52.060
Okay, I'd like to, all right, let's try this one.
01:16:57.900
Have any of you guys ever used Tinder or dating apps before, and what was your experience?
01:17:03.800
Yeah, Tinder is, like, sucky, but, like, Hinge is not bad.
01:17:09.860
Okay, I've heard a lot of people talk about Hinge.
01:17:14.760
Do you, um, why do you think that women typically get far more matches than men?
01:17:23.920
Well, I just wanted to say that men probably just swipe right and then see who swipes right
01:17:29.300
I think it's because men are on there, and it's a lot easier for men to find a woman attractive
01:17:36.500
So, we're all going to say, it's a lot more, it's a lot more probable for a woman to get
01:17:44.620
more people that, finding her attractive than a random man to just get, um, have women
01:17:52.640
And I also feel like you're not just looking at, at least for women, I...
01:18:04.540
Girl in red is happy to just her back blown out, but NBA players for now.
01:18:13.560
How do you think your future potential husband will feel about that?
01:18:19.740
So, um, hopefully my husband can accept me for me.
01:18:23.500
Um, I'm still young now, so I'm going to use that as my excuse.
01:18:27.040
Um, but everything I do, I definitely think about, um, whether it's a lot of people,
01:18:47.980
Yeah, a lot of them want to use it, so I'm not against it.
01:18:50.700
Apparently, in the NBA, even going back to the 90s, they would send out these memos instructing
01:18:59.540
these new NBA drafts, who are perhaps a bit naive and young, that not only should they
01:19:07.600
wear condoms when sleeping with these women, they should also be sure to, like, tie a knot
01:19:13.200
in it and flush it down the toilet, because what these women would do is, like, and I think
01:19:18.540
this happened to Drake recently or some shit, the women would, like, get the condoms and,
01:19:24.660
like, try to inseminate themselves so they could get a baby, so that they could get child
01:19:28.180
support from, presumably, well, athletes tend to make a good amount of money, so, and
01:19:35.200
I mean, yeah, you gotta think, like, I'm not saying I do this, but I'm...
01:19:57.540
I mean, like I said, I had a block of NBA player before, because he was just...
01:20:02.540
Every time we would talk, it was always about sex, and then when I would, like, defer from
01:20:09.000
that topic, he would, like, he would low-key trip on me, like, and I was not going for
01:20:16.720
It was, it was, yeah, and sometimes it's like that, but if I can't even have, like, a
01:20:20.900
regular conversation with him, I just can't, like, if you always sending me your dick,
01:20:31.860
They'd be, like, 2 p.m., and they'd be in their bed, just...
01:20:37.300
See, I wouldn't, I can't, I mean, I guess they do it, but to me, it's just like, you
01:20:42.680
know, why would you, if you're out there in the public, you know, why would you, because
01:20:56.100
I'm not trying to get that shit out there, you know?
01:21:06.680
I think it's revenge for all the dick pics that's just been sliding around for...
01:21:18.060
I'm no NBA player, but I probably got more bread and brains than those bench players.
01:21:24.900
If not for athleticism, they'd be hustling a mixtape on the street corner.
01:21:32.600
If you want to take a look at the screen here, this is Mike Davis.
01:21:46.260
He owns like 331 Burger King restaurants on the East Coast.
01:22:00.120
We were on a camping trip, and believe it or not, it was like in the...
01:22:22.880
He's a patron of mine, so I fly out and we talk.
01:22:39.720
So, he was on the night patrol because it was the Appalachian Mountains, so we didn't want
01:22:44.240
like any meth heads, like, trying to fuck us up.
01:22:46.300
So, he's like standing guard outside the tent, right?
01:23:01.620
Like, there's some Burger King wrappers and shit just, like, strewn across the campsite.
01:23:07.200
So, like, he fucking, like, he had some bear mace, like, one of those big canisters.
01:23:35.040
Like, is he trying to go on vacation or something?
01:23:49.800
Why would you choose NBA players over somebody who's, like, actually worked hard, made a living,
01:24:01.100
I'm not knocking nobody who worked hard for their money.
01:24:08.360
I don't care how you get the money as long as you got it.
01:24:28.880
So, after the show, can I get you guys connected?
01:24:43.240
What are your thoughts on, like, there's a common perception about modern women today?
01:24:47.420
I've heard, they say, modern women today don't care about a man's struggles, they just want
01:24:51.840
to show up at the finish line and pick the winners.
01:24:57.660
I've messed with a couple guys that have been through stuff, like, more challenges in life
01:25:05.160
And, honestly, they're a lot more down to earth.
01:25:08.880
Yeah, like, I can have a conversation with somebody who slept in their car before, or had
01:25:19.120
I know you date NBA ballers, but is that too short for you?
01:25:37.320
I think anything over, like, because I'm a little taller, I'm, like, 5'6.
01:25:41.660
I think anything over, like, 5'8 is fine for me.
01:25:46.000
Do you think you're more likely to meet a beautiful woman who's down-to-earth or a high-value man who's down-to-earth?
01:25:51.120
Oh, a beautiful woman that's more down-to-earth.
01:25:54.180
Which one was more likely to overcome hardship?
01:25:59.020
Can you compare the ugly duckling woman to the high-value man who had to earn his status?
01:26:07.740
You really think that a pretty woman has a harder time throughout life than a man who has to work for his wealth and strive to get to the top?
01:26:16.420
Like, okay, like, who has it harder, Heidi Klum or Mark Cuban, throughout life?
01:26:21.600
Maybe you're going to have to lower them numbers.
01:26:27.600
Who had it harder, Hayley Bieber or, I'm trying to find, like, Gen Z people.
01:26:38.640
Here, let's do a fit check because flan life has been...
01:26:49.480
You can say, you know, where your outfit's from.
01:27:20.680
What are the tattoos on your, uh, what are those, what does they say?
01:27:37.260
Does everyone want to do a little spin so they can, you know, we got to see the, you
01:27:51.740
What do you call those, these pants with the sides visible?
01:27:57.300
Did you rip them yourself or did they come like that?
01:28:03.620
And, uh, this is, um, this is, um, Teespring t-shirt, right?
01:28:13.120
He's got the Nirvana, smells like teen spirit, um, white, um, thing, you know, under, you
01:28:43.800
Oh, um, I want to finish off on a previous conversation we were having.
01:29:07.400
So, have you had any blue check marks slide into your DMs?
01:29:17.340
Well, when I was single, it used to be a lot, a lot more, but...
01:29:27.940
Not, like, his face, but, like, you know, like...
01:29:38.100
Yeah, like, it's been, like, a year and four months.
01:29:47.300
I'm not gonna, like, make, like, a whole post about him.
01:29:53.860
But, like, I post, like, my dates that I go on with him.
01:30:16.640
But, so, okay, you get blue check marks in your DMs.
01:30:27.960
Well, obviously, you're in a relationship now, but prior to your current relationship.
01:30:33.400
What's, like, the baddest MFer that slid into your DMs?
01:30:39.180
Well, it's, like, a bunch of, yeah, it's a bunch of those and a bunch of, like, you know,
01:30:44.060
Or just, like, random guys who, like, I don't know.
01:31:04.180
I don't post him on there, but if you go on my stories.
01:31:17.260
Well, he'll, like, you know, I'll post a story, too.
01:31:19.960
But, like, all, every single thing, like, I post on my story, it was, like, usually
01:31:25.800
How many DMs do you still get, though, from guys, even though you're in a relationship?
01:31:36.020
Like, it's clear that you're a stylist for men or for women?
01:31:41.040
How many DMs, it's, like, where it's kind of evident that the guy's sliding in,
01:31:48.480
I would say maybe, like, out of all the DMs I get, like, definitely, like, 80% of them
01:31:53.440
are guys who are trying to, like, you know, get at me.
01:31:56.220
But then the other 20% is either, like, a client who's actually serious about working
01:32:01.740
with me or just, like, my friends, guys that are just, you know.
01:32:15.240
And how many are, like, romantically, like, shooting their shot?
01:32:26.880
But how many are hitting you up in a day or in a week?
01:32:34.820
But, like, that's, like, in the, like, requests and everything.
01:32:42.960
I mean, obviously, we were talking about dating apps earlier, but I think a lot of people
01:32:55.220
Well, they'll use Tinder, but I think also a lot of people will slide into your DMs on Tinder.
01:33:03.580
And so, Instagram is almost, like, another dating app for some women, I think.
01:33:12.620
If I was using it as a dating app, I prefer to use Instagram over Tinder anyways, to be honest.
01:33:17.880
So, where I was going with this is, if a woman has lots of sexy photos on her dating profile
01:33:24.400
or maybe her Instagram and no bio, should she be surprised if guys are only contacting
01:33:34.440
I'm not getting mad or I'm not texting these guys, like, don't talk to me, I have a boyfriend.
01:33:42.840
So, it's like, people are going to assume that I'm single.
01:33:45.900
So, you feel like she's kind of putting herself out there in that way?
01:33:51.220
In other words, if she's got, you know, a dating profile, no bio, lots of sexy photos,
01:33:55.880
you feel like she's kind of sending a message, like, I'm just open to hookups.
01:34:05.180
Okay, but, I mean, should she be surprised if she's getting...
01:34:12.560
Like I said before, like, women are going to get men that are finding you attractive.
01:34:20.560
Like, anyone, every single one of us in this room have men in our DMs who think they're
01:34:27.640
But why are we going to get mad at somebody who's just complimenting you?
01:34:31.120
Because these guys are going out of their way DMing you because they think you're attractive.
01:34:35.220
Brian, are you getting DMs from guys thinking that you're attractive?
01:34:40.420
Actually, yeah, there's been some dudes fucking hitting me up and shit.
01:34:53.180
She justified getting run through by NBA players by saying I'm young now.
01:35:01.220
Brian, John, and Lauren, I am disappointed in you for not pressing her enough on this.
01:35:15.980
Isn't that like some guy in Africa who's like a dictator, tyrant, or some shit?
01:35:22.840
Confirm or deny, are you the fucking president of some...
01:35:41.420
But then God came to me in a revelation and said, it's not your time yet.
01:35:45.360
You still have work left on this earth gatekeeping these streets.
01:35:54.600
I appreciate you being there to defend me against that.
01:36:06.340
He had to go to the hospital after because he got a little...
01:36:10.120
So if you actually meet him, he'll show you the scars from the bear.
01:36:25.980
That's why I'm trying to get a little connection between...
01:36:42.100
And, in fact, the fact that Instagram could be used as a dating website,
01:36:46.860
I found out about three months ago, four months ago.
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01:38:27.540
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01:38:43.280
Nowadays everyone could just buy their blue check marks.
01:38:51.380
I had my first blue check mark DM from a chick.
01:39:00.840
If I was sending that exact same message to a chick.
01:39:07.300
Going to make that girl you know more attractive to you.
01:39:29.260
If her height doesn't start with four she ain't the one.
01:39:49.600
Like I'd be down to be friends with like a male dwarf.
01:39:54.440
Well I guess now it's moving towards little person.
01:41:02.360
You got a DM from a blue check mark and she said something.
01:41:17.740
She just said I'm five one and then she shucked the rest of the conversational burden on me.
01:41:28.440
It would have been cute if she continued the conversation, but she's just like, I don't
01:41:39.180
It's just the girls you interact with have no game because some girls do.
01:41:53.700
Okay, so if you woke up tomorrow as a man and you wanted to get laid like a lot of guys
01:41:59.580
I don't think I would have that desire one morning that I wake up randomly, but I have
01:42:17.420
So, yeah, I just think personally, I do make the move, but I do know that not most people
01:42:27.460
In general speaking, women don't need game to get a guy.
01:42:32.520
I mean, it sort of ties into the whole, like, a lot of you getting DMs, right?
01:42:38.560
You kind of just have to be out in the ether and guys will come to you.
01:42:50.660
Yeah, but if you were to download the dating app, for example, like, you would just be getting
01:43:00.460
They would be setting up the date, planning the date, paying for the date, moving things
01:43:03.860
forward on the date, going for the first kiss, moving things forward sexually.
01:43:07.100
So guys are expected to pretty much do everything throughout the entire early stages of a relationship.
01:43:13.000
Again, would be nice for sure, but there have been so many times that I had to do that,
01:43:21.320
I just think that, like, there are different women.
01:43:23.080
All I'm arguing here, so sorry, so sorry, just to finish Brian's point, Brian, that,
01:43:29.100
yeah, to say no women have game, that's just incorrect.
01:43:41.700
And most women don't have game, though, because they don't need it.
01:43:46.960
But I wanted to ask you, a lot of women, I ask them why don't they typically approach men,
01:43:51.240
and they will often say because they're afraid of rejection.
01:43:53.780
So I ask them, if a woman chooses to approach a man and shoot her shot,
01:43:57.400
is she more or less likely to be rejected than if a man approaches a woman?
01:44:03.560
Why do you think women are afraid of being rejected when they're far less likely to be rejected?
01:44:11.100
So what advice would you give to men who fear rejection?
01:44:14.220
Oh, well, to both men and women, I would give the same advice, which is just go for it.
01:44:18.480
If they will reject you, they're not meant for you, and so don't waste your time.
01:44:26.640
So if that person does not want you, then you are being directed to another pathway that's better for you.
01:44:32.160
I don't think you should go somewhere where you're not appreciated, obviously.
01:44:40.100
But I didn't like your premise to that, something about...
01:44:52.920
Okay, you said that women approach men because they're...
01:44:56.160
Or, sorry, women don't approach men because they're afraid of rejection, but that's not the reason women don't approach men.
01:45:04.360
Women don't approach men because they want masculine men, and they want the qualities of a man who is going to be the type of man to approach them.
01:45:13.620
They don't want the type of man who is going to accept a woman.
01:45:21.640
But a woman says if you are reaching out to the man, that relationship will not work because you are acting...
01:45:36.920
I think that the instances where a woman is being a bit...
01:45:42.000
Not, like, pursuing in the same way that the man is, but she's actually, like, putting in effort.
01:45:47.760
Those actually tend to be the ones that, in my experience, are the strongest.
01:45:56.320
Like, not these ones where she's, like, playing hard to get.
01:46:03.360
Rickson, on behalf of the military homies, can you ask the panel why most modern women say or think a dude being in the military is a red flag?
01:46:23.140
If a guy's in the military, current active duty military, red flag or no?
01:46:47.160
You two said yes, just why do you think that is?
01:46:50.200
I don't think you're wrong, I mean, necessarily.
01:46:53.300
Well, it's because, like, I'm very, like, you know, men or women, they could be very, like, red flag because they end up going on,
01:47:04.080
And usually, like, when people join the military, they're really young and they don't really know what they're going in life and type.
01:47:10.860
So, let's say they've been with somebody and they go get deployed and they're there for so long.
01:47:15.960
People are going to want the other physical connection with somebody else, you know, so there's always opportunity for them to be able to cheat on you.
01:47:25.440
I just feel like if someone's in the military and they're not older, then yes.
01:47:30.220
But, like, if they're a little bit, if they're, like, over 25, then no.
01:47:34.660
I think I've actually heard the reverse is that it's more often the case that the men will go off to deployment.
01:47:40.900
Maybe they're married or they have a girlfriend and the girlfriend or wife cheats on them while they're getting fucking IED'd and shit.
01:47:52.460
Yeah, either way, like, it's either the woman cheats on him because he's gone or, like, he cheats on her.
01:48:02.000
Like, basically, they get their military wives and spouses, they get their military benefits, and then they fucking divorce the guys and cheat and all this bullshit.
01:48:18.960
You know, it's funny, like, these military wives are like, I'm basically in the military.
01:48:27.740
Well, it's because then they come home and they're, like, they talk about everything.
01:48:30.760
Like, my sister's in the military, so, like, a lot of things, like, I know and understand because of that.
01:48:41.980
You're thanking her for her service, but she's not even here?
01:49:08.240
Let's, I'm trying to remember where we were at before, but here, we have a question here
01:49:13.500
Ask the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
01:49:25.960
The military is literally protecting your asses from crazy MFers in North Korean, China,
01:49:29.760
and y'all think a man being in the military is a red flag?
01:49:33.140
Thousands of dudes did not die in Normandy Beach for y'all to say that.
01:49:41.380
I don't think it's necessarily wrong for someone to not want to, I don't know if it's a red
01:49:48.540
flag, but I don't think it's wrong for someone to not want to date someone in the military
01:49:52.840
in the same way that it wouldn't be wrong for someone to not want to have a long-distance
01:49:56.460
relationship with somebody, because deployments, you know, they might be gone.
01:50:03.080
Loram and Tony Hawk have been spitting facts for the 304s on the other side of the table.
01:50:27.100
He's saying, he's saying, 1.4-year relationship, no photos of your boyfriend on Instagram, public
01:50:36.320
I don't know why that's such a big deal, if me and my boyfriend don't care.
01:50:42.200
I think that the thing is, is that Instagram is, to some degree, a dating app, and women
01:50:50.400
are primarily the ones getting attention on Instagram, so you're basically, by hot take
01:50:56.380
of the night, you're basically keeping your options open by having an Instagram, if you're
01:51:03.160
Especially if you're not posting your boyfriend, bare minimum.
01:51:06.480
But what if you use that for, what if your social media is for work, too?
01:51:10.620
Is that how you procure most of your clients, is through Instagram?
01:51:17.660
Is that the way in which you procure most of your clients?
01:51:20.960
Well, I prefer to give them my Instagram to talk to them, rather than giving them my
01:51:27.700
So, that's where I direct them to first, is Instagram.
01:51:37.240
Your business portfolio, your professional portfolio?
01:51:41.720
Not really, because I have other, I don't just do stuff on Instagram.
01:51:46.160
Like, I do Instagram posts on social media, I'll give them content, stuff like that, and
01:51:54.680
Is that, I guess, what I just wanted to say in your defense, I feel like Instagram
01:52:01.040
You know, nowadays you don't give out a printed business card, you give an Instagram.
01:52:04.560
And especially for artists, having a big Instagram and, like, having, like, the type of Instagram
01:52:10.680
that you have is actually quite essential just for business and career.
01:52:14.220
But why exclude her boyfriend, even in business aspects?
01:52:17.980
But I don't exclude him because I still post, it's not like I'm not posting pictures of him.
01:52:24.100
He's in every, every time, every single time I go on a date, I take a picture with him
01:52:28.200
I think what people are saying is, like, they'll go to your Instagram page and they'll see all
01:52:33.720
of these beautiful, you look beautiful, and all of those pictures.
01:52:39.980
So it seems like if you're not doing it for the money, what are you possibly doing it for?
01:52:44.840
Why are you having all of these beautiful pictures of you and none of your boyfriend,
01:52:50.920
Well, I just don't think it's that serious if you're not entertaining it.
01:53:02.560
Like, if you see yourself in a different light, maybe you're just trying.
01:53:06.720
Like, you could really love yourself and just want to post you and people like that.
01:53:11.100
Like, people fall in love with people on the internet.
01:53:20.780
You don't post pictures of your boyfriend because you know it'll make men more likely
01:53:25.020
to slide into your DMs, which in turn will make it more likely for you to rope them into
01:53:31.100
Posting someone on a 24-hour story doesn't count.
01:53:35.440
Bro, I would literally post a picture of my boyfriend right now.
01:53:42.200
If your boyfriend bought OnlyFans content every week from the same creator, would you
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But I'm saying, like, if somebody, you know, has, like, an online relationship with another
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creator, does that at some point become, you know...
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I don't have relationships with these people that are DMing me.
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The most I'll do is double-tap the picture, like the picture.
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I see you shaking your head, because I don't mean it to be, like, a...
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But I think it's funny, also, because you do social media, too.
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Like, so I'm trying to promote my YouTube content, and I am trying...
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I could understand if it's 100% business, and I'm making money off having, like, simps give money to me.
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I could understand in that case why you wouldn't post your boyfriend.
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But if I'm being honest with my fans, and I had a boyfriend, I feel like an Instagram is really just kind of a story of your life, just like Facebook was.
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And you would want to include important people in your life, your friends, your boyfriend, yada, yada.
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Like, everyone pretty much knows that, like, everyone important to me knows that I have a boyfriend.
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When guys hit on me at work, I tell them straight up, I have a boyfriend, and then they don't try again.
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Well, sometimes they will try again, but then it's always, like, period, I have a boyfriend.
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I know that I'm not going to do anything else with other guys, so...
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And he knows that as well, and he knows that I use social media as a way to keep connections.
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What other better way to do it is from Instagram.
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Here, we're going to pull up something that's kind of related to this, then we're going to get into the soup chats.
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You're going to have to control mouse wheel up.
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They don't approach men, but they put themselves in positions where they could be approached by men.
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They won't DM a man, but they'll post pictures to lure him into DMing them.
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Mainstream media doesn't want you to know this.
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But most guys are too naive and lack the capacity for nuanced thinking to be able to identify this distinction.
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In a committed relationship, a man should stop pitching, and a woman should stop advertising.
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But most men are fooled into believing that just because their woman isn't also initiating conversations with other men, then everything is good.
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We'd utilize different strategies to get similar outcomes.
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You stopped talking to women and gave up your edge as a man, but she never stopped putting herself out there.
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That's why she already had a replacement for you after the breakup, because she never stopped marketing.
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A lion and a rhino are about to fight, and the lion tells the rhino, take off your horn so that we can have a fair fight since I don't have a horn.
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Fight begins, and he gets torn to shreds by the lion because the lion used his teeth and claws.
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A lion and a rhino are not the same, so they can't play by the same rules.
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If the rhino takes off his horn, then the lion will need to remove its teeth and claws.
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You both have to give up your edge to even the playing field.
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In regards to the situation with my ex, I know you may be thinking, so what if she was at the grocery store?
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Okay, grocery store that's totally different from her intentionally walking into the lion's den, the club.
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And just to further clarify what I told my ex, it was a euphemism which basically was me saying that we'll both be single because if she's putting herself out there, in turn, I'll start talking to other girls, which means we're no longer in a committed relationship.
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Yeah, so those first few tweets are kind of the crux of it is that because you as women are getting initiated upon at the bar, at the club, on Instagram, you're keeping your options open, whereas men don't really be getting DMs like that.
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And maybe your boyfriend's fine with that, but you're generating leads while he's probably cut off all his options.
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Well, his job, I wouldn't say is like, I would say he has the same kind of job where he has to keep his Instagram the same way because he's always talking to other people too.
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So he uses Instagram as a way to connect with people the same way that I do.
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I mean, maybe I should have asked this question before I gave that, read from that tweet, but would you think it's a red flag or an issue if a guy you were dating who wanted to be monogamous with you said,
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I'm prepared to commit to you, but I don't want you going to the club anymore.
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And let's say he wants you to private your Instagram.
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When I'm in a relationship, I fully dedicate and devote myself.
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So if he thinks that that's the best decision for me, then I will listen to him.
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I think it really just depends if I want to have a girls' night and actually at least keep them updated on what I'm doing, what time I'm coming back, and be honest and truthful.
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I think there's no problem with that, but they ask you to do something that's a little more like, you know, I agree with the fact that the woman is a lion and the man is, what was it?
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Don't worry about the rhino and the kingdom shit.
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That's part of why a man would want you to go private on your Instagram and stuff like that, though, so you're not advertising yourself in a way.
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What about like, okay, let's talk about clubs, though.
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You want to be monogamous with your, you want commitment from your boyfriend.
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He says, cool, I don't want you going to bars and clubs anymore.
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Like, I'll let you know what I'm doing and where I'm at, but I'm not going to just, just because you don't want me to go out.
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I don't think that has anything to do with, like, if we're going to start dating, I think trust is a big thing.
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And if you're saying that, it's probably because you can't trust somebody.
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I think if I've gotten to that point where I really, like, mess with a guy.
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LeBron James, he's like, look, I want to be monogamous with you, but.
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Let's just say, like, some dude who's prepared to commit to you, and he says, look, I don't want you going to the bars and clubs anymore.
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Yeah, I mean, if I'm to that point, I'm kicking it with him every day.
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Well, with your current relationship, do you guys go out to bars, clubs with him, by yourself, girls?
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Well, he also, he'll just, like, pick me up, so he doesn't have a problem with that either.
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I barely exist on Instagram, so if my boyfriend was to prohibit me from using it, I would definitely raise how...
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If, when a girl barely uses her Instagram posts once a year, if he would want her to shut that down, like, I think it would be a controlling thing.
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However, I don't even like clubs, so that's totally down with that one.
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I don't like clubs, and to the bars I can go with him.
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The only thing is that I think that sometimes people need their own space, so girls need to go out with their friends.
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At the same time, guys need to go out with their friends.
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But, here comes but, they can go out to the restaurants, for example, and not to the clubs.
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And we chill most of the time out of my apartment, so I don't know what she's talking about, but...
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My Instagram's only public today, so that I can be here.
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It's the only time I ever go to the bars and clubs, is because I'm like, maybe I'll meet a cute guy.
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Men don't get mad you are going out because they are insecure.
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They get upset because they aren't there to protect you in case something happens.
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Yeah, that's definitely 100% another component.
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I'd like to ask a question about going to clubs.
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Why are there women who say they go to clubs only to dance and not be approached by men?
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Why are there women who say they go to clubs only to dance and not be approached by men?
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I think that being approached by men is just, that's being a part of it.
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If I'm going outside, period, I'm probably going to get hit on.
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It's not necessarily like, I'm going to go dance and get hit on.
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Women, I feel like the thread that you were showing earlier, women get hit on anywhere.
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What I'm wondering is, if women don't like being approached, why not just go to gay clubs?
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But there are actually straight men pretending to be gay in those clubs.
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Okay, but I'm just saying, wouldn't that put your boyfriend's mind at ease?
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If you have to go out and have a girls' night, then at least he doesn't have to worry.
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It would be like if your boyfriend said, I'm going to go out to the strip club with all my guy friends,
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Women go to clubs and bars to get attention from men.
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I know some married women who go to gay clubs to dance.
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Or even just following up on this point, why are there women-only gyms and various safe spaces,
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I mean, isn't that the environment women complain about the most?
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I mean, if there's nobody paying for drinks, obviously, I know I'm going to have to pay.
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So, can we conclude that women go to clubs because they get attention from men?
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Can we conclude that's the purpose of women going to clubs is to get attention from men?
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But then can you understand why a man might have a problem with his girlfriend going out and taking a girls' night?
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Do you guys think it's controlling if a guy didn't want his girlfriend going to a bar or club?
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If she wants to do it every single day, then no, I don't think it's controlling because he's just trying to moderate her.
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But if she goes once in two months, then it could be controlling.
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In other words, what is the difference between protecting your woman and being possessive?
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I think possessive is more like, or like controlling is more like, you can't do this, you can't do that.
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And then possessive is like, what are you doing?
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Like, you know, asking questions about what you're doing rather than like telling you you can't do that.
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Well, I would say yeah, because when my boyfriend asked me like, oh, what are you doing?
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It's like, I like that because it's like, you're wondering, like, you know, you're thinking about what I'm doing.
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But then it's like, he's not going to, but I wouldn't, I would not like if he told me, no, you can't do that.
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But I would still just comply because that's my boyfriend.
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But then I would just have to comply because that's my boyfriend.
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So your current boyfriend, you've been dating him for a year and four months.
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If he just shifts all of a sudden after watching the show because he's like, oh, that's not a bad idea.
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He's like, look, I don't want you going to the club anymore.
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Wait, but so going back to my question, does anyone here think, and it's okay if you do,
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do you think it's controlling or insecure if a guy doesn't want his girlfriend going to the club?
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I think it just really depends on, like, what the reasoning is of it.
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They could do it for themselves or they could do it out of, like, they're saying they just want you safe
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and they don't want you to go out because that can put you into a situation.
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I mean, I think the primary thing is they basically don't want you getting hit on and flirted with
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I mean, there's some, I think a safety component is part of that,
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but I'd say the primary reason is you're kind of keeping your options open by going to these environments.
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John from It's Complicated, I wish I could shake that man's hand and buy him a beer.
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Excellent questions, content, but minus the cigar-smoking lesbian and few others,
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Ask the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
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No, that is, I have a lot of, I guess, past trauma due to my appearance, so.
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Well, I think you're underselling yourself a little bit, but.
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What do you think it would take to make you a 10?
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Like, what would you want to improve about yourself or your looks?
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There's a lot of things I dislike about myself, so, I mean, I'm not sure,
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but if I were to be able to change things, I would mainly change maybe my face.
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But you mentioned, I mean, I don't know if you want to get into it,
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but you mentioned past trauma, how is that related to your physical appearance?
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Well, growing up, I had a sister, and she was the one more complimented than I was
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And on top of that, growing up, I did get bullied for a little while.
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but to me, I still see that little girl that I was, and, you know, who people bullied.
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No, but I have had something done with my chin,
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What do you rate yourself, looks-wise, 1 to 10?
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Probably, like, like a 5 or, like a 6 on, like, a good day, you know?
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Unless you want to make it a discussion, which I would love to, but.
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Okay, why do you object to answering the question, first off?
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what do I think men in California would, on average, rate me, let's say, you know?
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Or over, like, other different places, for sure, yeah.
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I would probably be on a higher upscale in Siberia than in L.A.
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Okay, but it's not just about the time I can hop on the plane and be in the country where
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I, like, my status all of a sudden, like, drastically changes.
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But that's why I have the problem with this question, you know?
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I could be a two one day, and then the next day I could be a nine.
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We're going to drop you in, like, Columbus, Ohio.
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I'm probably going to be, like, an eight or a nine in Ohio.
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I don't know too much about Idaho, so I would not know.
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Again, also slightly on the higher than, let's say, in the lay, for sure.
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What do you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten?
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Well, for me, it depends on mood, because sometimes I also feel different.
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But I would say it's going to be, like, seven, sometimes eight.
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But for me, it's also important how I don't just feel, like, when I look at myself, but
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also what I feel inside, because it's very connected.
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Are you saying Idahoans are, I don't know if that's the right word.
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Are you saying Idahoans are unattractive, and that Los Angeles Hollyweird freaks are attractive?
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No, but there's definitely more models and, like, very attractive people in California
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than I'm sure Idaho, simply because there's more people in California.
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So, there's probably going to be more attractive people in California.
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You're saying you hit them up, those homeless women.
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What about, you said you're moving to Florida, so are you going to Miami?
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I feel like this question really isn't all that hard, but okay, you guys want to make
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What, what, what about like your rating and fucking, I'm trying to think of a, like, small
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In Lichtenstein, girls are blonde and pretty tall because it's basically German-speaking
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country and they all come from, like, mountains, I would say.
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So it's definitely not the country for you, Brian, to look for a girl.
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Well, I heard the tallest people are in the Netherlands.
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Netherlands is like the tallest people, so, which is unfortunate because I really like
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Okay, moving on from that, thank you guys for the lovely ratings.
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Hi, whatever, hello, Lauren, other panelists in chat.
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I just know my, I just know my, I see my people in chat.
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Well, I apologize for misgendering you, Ross Kahn.
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Oh, my, Romy, oh, this is, shit, I wish we got to this sooner.
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Sorry, we're getting to this like two hours later.
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I saw the comment earlier on the, they wanted me to shift gears in the car.
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Thank you for your big super chat last show too.
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I don't know if you're still in the, in the stream.
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We're going to try to, I'm pretty sure this is Roma.
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So we're going to try to get her on the show eventually.
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No, but I know you like, there's a switch pedal, isn't there?
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Like, like what I just did into the mic though?
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Okay, do you feel like a lot of the times, not this panel, no one called themselves a 10,
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but I do feel like a lot of the times this show will bring in, like, kind of 7s or above,
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and then they call themselves 10s, and we scoff at that.
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I don't know, sometimes they'd be lower than 7s, claiming 10.
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I just, like, and we scoff and make fun of that, so just, like, what makes you a 6?
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Like, my own self-assessment of my, are you wanting me to articulate?
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Yeah, like, what makes you better than over 50% of men that are available and some?
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I think I'm, and I'm not saying it to be cocky, I don't think I'm a 10, but if 5 is the average,
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I think I'm perhaps maybe slightly above average.
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I've been eating kind of shit, so I need to lose, like, 10 pounds.
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I got a little belly here, you know, so rocking a bit of a dad bomb.
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You know what, isn't there some YouTuber who, like, does, like, face ratings, wheat waffles?
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I didn't, but I've seen what you're talking about.
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He does, like, the face, like, breakdown, like, the fucking.
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The epicanthal folds and shit, or what does he fucking talk about?
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He talks about, like, he's a good guy, but I'm trying to think what he talks about.
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I think it was, like, facial symmetry, or bone structure, or something like that, or cheating.
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Oh, okay, so I'm, I still, my hair isn't totally gone yet, so I guess that's good, at least for my age, I reckon.
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Blue eyes, got the baby blues, got the long eyelashes, you know what I'm saying?
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And, yeah, I don't, I don't think I'm an exceptionally good looking, but I think I'm, I'm, I'm decent, I'm okay.
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Big nose, probably, I got big nose, so that probably takes off, I don't know, a point or two, and then I'm pale, super pale, and I've got, my hands kind of shake, because I, I haven't eaten anything today.
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And, uh, or I, I didn't eat much today, and, uh, I have, I have dainty hands, and I think if I had big muscular man hands that were thick and fat, it, that'd be, like, an extra .5, but I got these gamer hands, you know, fucking my micro.
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Yeah, but, like, some people just genetically, for example, my dad, he's a software engineer.
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He doesn't exercise, he doesn't lift, he's got fucking man hands, like, big, fat, meaty, strong man hands, and I got these dainty, what?
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I got these dainty gamer hands for, like, playing the piano and shit, like, I could bust out some Chopin, but I ain't about to, like, do nine hours of physical labor in the fields.
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So, okay, so my point is, a lot of this show is scoffing at women who think that they are prettier than they are, and then I rarely see us turn it around on the men, and, like, I'm sure you're a nice guy, and you have a great show, but I, I wouldn't say, like...
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The delusional women thinking they're a ten, the man version of that is men who declare themselves an alpha male.
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Well, I think Lauren, Lauren was about to say that I'm, I'm actually not a six, but go ahead, Lauren.
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No, that, yeah, that, you got it, you got the point.
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Well, you didn't, because John came in, but go ahead.
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I finished my, okay, my point being, I don't know if I would, yes, I don't know if I'd qualify you as a six, and I do feel like, why would you scoff at women who are incorrect about their beauty?
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What, what do you rate me, just out of curiosity?
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If I'm not a six, what do you, what do you, I mean, we could also ask the chat, too.
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Yes, let's let the chat, you want me to rate you?
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I think, okay, first of all, I think you're very kind, but we have to go based off just looks, right?
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Okay, just forget the fucking bullshit geographic shit.
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What do you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten?
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You know what's funny is actually I would say, you know, there's, I don't know if any of you have seen this on TikTok.
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There's this app that, like, makes you, like, the male version of you, and it's something like, if you wouldn't date, like, and often you see girls doing this.
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If you wouldn't date the male version of you, your standards are too high.
02:24:10.560
Yes, but that app, the face changing, is literally, it's not even altering your features to make you look like a man.
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It's, like, a stencil app where it's just, like, applying another man's face over your face, so that app doesn't even actually turn you into the male version of yourself.
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Because have you ever tried, like, the male filter on yourself?
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Because I know the female filter on myself doesn't make me just look like a more feminine woman.
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Because I was going to say, just looking at you, I actually think there are some similar, to some degree, I mean.
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No, but I would say we're, to some degree, I would consider us.
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No, no, I would say we're kind of, to some degree, comparable looks-wise, I think.
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But you think you're more attractive than me, that's totally fine, fair enough.
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Sitting next to me, everyone looks better, of course.
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I loved watching the skateboarding growing up, I was really into him, and then I also had the Tony Hawk video game thing that was on my PS, so I just, I love Tony Hawk.
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There's a reason I don't show my face on camera.
02:25:37.360
I haven't been reading the chat, but what's the chat been saying?
02:25:46.300
But, okay, so your original question is, and so you're-
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Well, the original question was, ask the ladies to rate themselves on the looks to ten.
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But if you want to try to deflect from where I'm about to go with this conversation, we can pass it to John really quick.
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What do you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten?
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If you want to delay my rebuttal, but go ahead.
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I mean, apparently he's my doppelganger, so, I mean, you know.
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But I would say, you know, above average, I would think.
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I mean, six, seven, something like that, possibly.
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But, you know, I mean, I don't show my face on camera for a reason, you know.
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I think the difference is, though, and I guess your qualm is, is because you think I've rated myself higher than how you view me.
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We don't scoff at women who merely rate themselves inaccurately.
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We scoff at women who default to saying they're nine or ten purely based on this self-generated notion they have that they're inherently high value.
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So, I mean, let's give, by the way, Black Socrates, thank you for the donation.
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So, I think there's a difference between someone being within the margin of error of a rating, so either plus or minus a point.
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Now we're getting kind of, hold on, we're getting fucking a little nerdy with this shit.
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But the difference is when a girl who's like a six or a seven, she thinks she's a ten.
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Because if a girl says she's a six and I think she's a five, I'm not like, I'm not calling that out.
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But if a girl who's a six says she's a ten, who says she's on par with the most beautiful women in the world, that's where I'm like, you're delusional.
02:28:01.580
I think it's the degree, you know, if you're within, again, the margin of error, that's one thing.
02:28:06.300
But if you're, we have below average women come on the podcast saying, I'm a ten.
02:28:12.380
I'm on par with the most beautiful women in the world.
02:28:15.120
I'm on par with lingerie models, runway models, magazine models, the most beautiful women in the world.
02:28:25.400
I don't scoff at a girl who's a five who says she's a six.
02:28:33.820
It's the scoff because a lot of women that come on have a self-inflated ego because of makeup, angles, lighting, and filters that thirsty simps in the DMs gas up, when in reality they are very mid or lower.
02:28:48.000
If I said I was a ten, that's like, bro, that's like me saying I'm on par with Brad Pitt when he was in his mid-twenties.
02:28:58.380
And he's also been a fucking babe, and like, he's still a fucking babe, but.
02:29:04.460
If you're a ten, why would you even wear makeup?
02:29:06.960
I mean, I've done this interview on the street before, and many women have said they're tens, and I guess they conflate it with confidence.
02:29:16.460
If I am super confident, then that makes me a ten.
02:29:23.900
There's obviously, you know, just because I think I'm a billionaire, does that mean that my bank account reflects that?
02:29:30.880
There's certain just things that have to back up what you're saying.
02:29:38.260
No, I just wanted to say, like, maybe for someone who's really in love with her, she's a full ten, you know?
02:29:44.120
And for him, she's ten, and she's better than all others because he's in love with her.
02:29:48.980
That's beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but that still doesn't disprove the fact that we do have certain opportunities that come along with certain levels of beauty.
02:30:07.340
No, I mean, that really does make a lot of sense.
02:30:10.840
Like, I get where you're coming from with the saying, okay, I'm a nine or a ten, and I'm in that difference.
02:30:17.720
However, I do think that we could experience some nuance and recognize that we, that at least you on this podcast, do avoid asking the men that question.
02:30:37.980
I just want to point out, I think you're talking about almost like self-awareness because, like, if a woman, let's say she thinks she's a ten, she's actually a seven, but it doesn't even matter what, you know, just like, she thinks not the reality.
02:30:53.580
And then don't you think that the world, the reality will kind of slap her in her place at some point?
02:31:01.800
Like, she will realize that she is not as, like, old as she thinks she is.
02:31:07.980
And if she doesn't realize that that's not so much, like, inflated ego, but at least I would view it more as not having self-reflection.
02:31:17.020
I mean, I definitely think, I think it's perhaps harder for women to have the self-awareness of their own physical attractiveness for a couple reasons.
02:31:29.540
One, if you look at, and some people really aren't active on social media, but, for example, if you look at a lot of girls' Instagram profiles, their friends are in the comments gassing them up.
02:31:40.100
Even, like, let's be honest, even average, below average women, their friends are saying, you're a fucking slay queen, you're a babe, you're a hot, ten out of ten, you're perfect, blah, blah, blah.
02:31:50.880
So their own female friends, their own peers are gassing them up.
02:31:54.800
Guys really don't do that to their male friends on social media or in, I mean, some guys do, but, like, guys really aren't gassing each other up in that same way.
02:32:04.600
Guys typically are going to, like, call out their friends more so.
02:32:08.880
So, like, men and women kind of interact differently.
02:32:11.540
Like, men will bond by basically fucking roasting each other to death, whereas, whereas, and then saying really nice things about them, like, behind their backs.
02:32:24.220
And then I think it's almost the reverse with women.
02:32:26.420
Women will say really nice things to a girl to her face and then talk mad shit about her behind her back.
02:32:46.620
Not to sound like a simp, but the girl on the end with low self-esteem, please don't change a thing.
02:33:13.820
Do you think it's true that men will insult each other and not mean it, while women will compliment each other and not mean it?
02:33:20.760
Oh, I believe a bunch of delusion is fed to women, yes.
02:33:25.280
And I believe that women come across as like, they'll compliment a woman to try to be their friend, even if they don't mean that compliment.
02:34:03.080
Yeah, go find an ugly girl and then try to show me that chat.
02:34:13.300
However, however, however, like, I've seen like, that same exact comment section, you can copy and paste it to like, an average girl.
02:34:25.360
Okay, okay, that girl that usually sits where Giselle is sitting.
02:34:31.560
Pull up Lizzo's, pull up Lizzo's, uh, Instagram list.
02:34:35.420
Kiko, who's not here, she's, she usually sits there.
02:34:41.140
And I just feel like it sucks because everyone's like, ugh, ugh, and it's like, she's pretty.
02:34:56.240
But everyone's just like scoffing and like spitting all over the microphone and everything.
02:34:59.700
And like, oh, my God, she's not, she's not a 10.
02:35:10.160
I have an appropriate question for this, I think.
02:35:13.560
Is the pressure greater on men to be successful or on women to be beautiful?
02:35:20.040
Is the pressure greater on men to be successful or on women to be beautiful?
02:35:25.500
I think there's more pressure on men only because for women, that's more of a choice if we like want to try to be beautiful.
02:35:32.400
Whereas a man, he kind of like has to be successful to get anywhere in life.
02:35:42.780
Slow underscore Joe underscore 69 donated $101.69.
02:35:51.420
Respect to girl in gray skirt for keeping her hands folded on the table.
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Other smooth brains on panel can learn manners from her.
02:36:27.440
The average man's salary in the U.S. is $40,000.
02:36:30.020
The average woman in the U.S. weighs 170 pounds.
02:36:34.640
Why is there a fat acceptance movement for women, but there's no broke acceptance movement for men?
02:36:39.800
I don't believe that maybe the whole body positivity thing.
02:36:51.160
I believe that we should be taking care of ourselves as best as we can.
02:36:54.940
So I'm not sure why that happens, but I don't agree with it.
02:36:59.180
But do you think that plays a role in over-inflating a woman's self-awareness or perception?
02:37:09.140
I do believe that it plays into why a lot of women are delusional.
02:37:13.080
So then do you make an argument potentially that fat people don't know they're fat?
02:37:25.580
I think being fat is a bit different than just going off of like...
02:37:30.420
I think fat people know that they are fat, but they don't do anything about it.
02:37:35.360
And women and men, they're a bit different, right?
02:37:38.680
I'm sure men get a lot of pressure to work out and everything like that.
02:37:46.600
Like, I guess society puts that pressure on them.
02:37:54.100
Instead of forcing them to, like, more so actually take care of themselves.
02:37:58.400
Like they're told that they're stunning, beautiful at any size.
02:38:02.340
Whereas a guy will mainly only get compliments if he does work out.
02:38:10.000
There are a lot of double standards out there, for sure.
02:38:12.980
Really quick on the rating thing, just to kind of address your point.
02:38:16.160
So can you just quickly paraphrase what your original question was in terms of self-awareness when it comes to rating?
02:38:23.660
Well, yeah, so I guess my hypothesis is that an average person, if they're not, like, what they think they are, reality will come in and let you know at a certain point, like slap you in the face.
02:38:39.000
And if you are unable to see that reality, if you're unable to see those slaps, then you're just not self-aware.
02:38:48.520
And if you are able to see them, then you, like, eventually start wondering, okay, maybe it is me.
02:38:56.780
Yo, AB Check, big thank you for the 20 gifted memberships.
02:39:02.160
So it just seems to me that women that think that they are a 10 and will keep struggling in life because they will never, you know, understand the reality, are not self-aware women rather than, like.
02:39:16.200
Yeah, I understand, I think I understand your question.
02:39:18.820
I mean, my response to that is, I mean, women are certainly capable of self-awareness.
02:39:24.160
I think, however, where women get into trouble and where a lot of them don't receive the so-called slap in the face is that women can sleep with men that are more attractive than them, who are higher status than them, who either, so, who are basically hypergamy.
02:39:42.500
So, who either socioeconomically are higher, so that could be status, it could be money, or it could also be looks.
02:39:50.180
And here's why, because men welcome the easy access, flan life, thank you for the 10 gifted, women welcome the easy access, excuse me, women welcome the easy access, wait, sorry, getting, am I having a stroke?
02:40:04.520
Men welcome, yeah, I got it, I got tongue twisted.
02:40:09.080
So, a guy who, let's say, and look, in common, like, obviously we're having an intellectual conversation here, in, like, common conversation, I'm not, like, referring to people as 10s and 7s, but because we're trying to, like, get to the truth of things, I am trying to have, like, a rather, to some degree, shallow or superficial approach to this.
02:40:28.320
But, for conversation's sake, it's very easy to say, looks wise, she's a 6, looks wise, he's a 7, whatever it may be.
02:40:36.080
So, a girl who's a 6 could sleep with a dude who's a 9, because he's, like, easy access to sex, cool, but he's never going to give her a commitment.
02:40:44.600
So, that's, I think women don't really get the slap in the face, because it's pretty easy for women, and let me just finish my point, and I'll have you come in, John.
02:40:52.600
So, women can sleep with men that, on pretty much all levels, are more attractive than them, whether, again, that's status, wealth, or looks, or even personality.
02:41:04.820
A lot of women want a guy who's funny, charismatic, confident, all these things, even if they don't have those same qualities.
02:41:12.500
So, basically, what you have happening is women are going to...
02:41:29.840
A guy will gladly sleep with, hook up with, keep a girl around for...
02:41:41.140
With a girl who's less physically attractive than him, because he welcomes the easy access to sex, he'll never commit to her, she'll never be his boyfriend, she'll never get the ring.
02:41:57.760
A guy will sleep with a woman who's not as attractive as he is, and he'll never commit to her.
02:42:04.900
But for women to sleep with a guy, he needs to be at least...
02:42:10.220
For a woman to be able to sleep with a guy, he needs to be at least good-looking enough to be considered for a relationship.
02:42:19.120
He has to be at least attractive enough that she would be in a relationship with him.
02:42:25.660
Men will sleep with women of a certain physical attractiveness that they would never commit to.
02:42:33.620
So, women can sleep with these guys who are really high status, who are really good-looking, and they'll never get commitment.
02:42:40.940
So, they think, if I can get a guy who is a 9, thus, I must, too, be a 9, because for me to be able to do that, he has to be, like, on my...
02:42:54.220
He has to be good-looking enough for me to commit to him.
02:42:58.000
But men and women, we don't play by the same rules, so, like, yeah.
02:43:02.880
I actually absolutely agree with everything you've said.
02:43:06.720
The part where I would just kind of, like, rile back.
02:43:09.900
So, the moment you even said it yourself, the man will not be dating that woman.
02:43:16.760
But we also know that women prefer relationships.
02:43:22.360
Now, we could, of course, go into an argument that it might be different, and now we're in age.
02:43:27.800
However, what I'm trying to say is that woman that the guy had sex with, she will want to have a relationship with that guy.
02:43:34.360
He will not give her the relationship, and that's the slap that she will get.
02:43:38.800
Like, she will think to herself that, oh, I can get this guy.
02:43:43.400
But the guy, potentially, when she'll be going for the relationship, he will let her know, like, dude, we can have sex, but you're not on the level.
02:43:52.360
I think some, perhaps a few women will make that connection, but I think there's going to be a lack of accountability, and they're going to, instead of being like, hmm, I was sleeping with a guy outside of my league.
02:44:05.140
I was sleeping with a guy with way too much status compared to where I'm at in life.
02:44:12.200
They're not going to say, I'm just not that attractive.
02:44:16.120
So, I think some women might get the slap, and you're right that women get rejected on the back end.
02:44:28.380
Women tend to, women don't really get rejected typically on the front end, like, because women really aren't the initiators like that.
02:44:40.940
Intelligence and humility are what makes a person attractive.
02:45:02.600
Yo, Vile, Rontala, Vile, thank you for the ten gifted memberships.
02:45:11.360
I just wanted to add, though, that the lack of self-reflection is due because of the delusion that has been implemented in them.
02:45:18.980
It's going to be harder for them to reflect when that delusion has been food, you know, spoon-fed to them.
02:45:29.360
And, Brian, like, to your point, I see what you're saying.
02:45:34.560
And I will, like, my point to your, both you guys is going to be, like, yeah, self-awareness is one of the largest humanity problems nowadays.
02:45:44.100
But I do think that that is one of the key issues of a lot of, like, dating relationships, relationships in general, is that, like, lack of self-awareness.
02:45:51.380
Can I pick up on that self-awareness for a minute?
02:46:03.460
This tiny Latina, you seem uncomfortable with compliments, which in itself is delightful.
02:46:11.180
You're attractive, polite, demure, articulate, based.
02:46:18.320
Brian, make a move or I'll be very disappointed.
02:46:39.700
You clearly played video games and not sports in high school, Brian.
02:46:59.740
All right, we'll just leave it there for the rest of the show.
02:47:08.640
I just wanted to finish this one question, get the ladies' input on this.
02:47:26.040
The one he's telling the truth to is, like, has to be a side, because, like, if he's lying
02:47:34.260
to his main person, he's going to, like, tell the side chick, like, what's up, so that
02:47:38.460
way he, she's not, like, ratting him out in a tough way, if you know what I mean.
02:47:44.200
Is he protecting her, or is he feeding her delusion?
02:47:46.480
Well, the one that he's lying is trying to, per se, protect her, but, like, the one that
02:47:52.060
he's not lying to is the one that he just doesn't want to get, like, feelings attached
02:48:02.360
I feel like a man is going to lie to a woman that he loves because he's going to want to
02:48:07.780
If he's cheating on her, he's not going to straight up tell her, I'm cheating on you
02:48:12.460
So, it's like, you're going to tell, but you're going to tell the truth to your side,
02:48:16.840
you're going to, men are going to tell the side bitch, you're the side bitch.
02:48:20.220
They're going to say, they're going to tell you, I have a girlfriend, you know you're
02:48:24.440
Should a woman get mad about cheating if she's already a side bitch?
02:48:30.080
If she's already a side piece, should she get mad about cheating?
02:48:34.400
Once a cheater, always a cheater, is what I've always heard.
02:48:36.480
So, if he cheats on his woman to be with you, why would you be surprised if he cheats
02:48:43.840
Oh, actually, another question I have about cheating as well.
02:48:46.660
What do you find more intimate, having a deep conversation or having sex?
02:48:54.460
Why is it that cheating is usually more about having sex than having a deep conversation
02:49:06.380
Because sometimes I feel like that sex is just how she was talking about that men are
02:49:11.480
animals and they sometimes kind of like need it.
02:49:14.060
But when it gets to the emotional part, when they have really connection through the deep
02:49:19.460
dialogue or through the things they're sharing or something like this, then it's more...
02:49:24.880
I mean, both things like cheating don't understand me wrong.
02:49:29.520
Well, it's like you hear about how men and women are judged differently on cheating.
02:49:34.160
It's often said that women are more likely to forgive cheating than men because when men
02:49:45.340
So I'm just saying it's like there's emotional cheating and then there's physical cheating
02:49:49.520
So, you know, I guess emotional cheating hurts more.
02:50:00.660
Like you had a conversation with somebody else, that's a conversation that, you know, that
02:50:05.500
It's like, why would you let somebody else feel the same way?
02:50:08.580
Like I said before, you're treating someone else the same way that you're supposed to be
02:50:14.420
And it's like when it comes down to it, if that's the side bitch, she shouldn't be getting
02:50:23.260
And if so, has it affected past relationships as if they dated strictly for the size of their
02:50:44.840
I think it just really depends on like how a person knows like how to use it because like
02:50:51.120
if they're just like no good and they don't have like, you know, like a good size, like,
02:50:59.700
But like, you can have like, you can have like a small, you can have like a small penis
02:51:04.740
and know what you're doing and satisfy your lady and you can have a big one and still know
02:51:10.860
It just matters about if they know what they're doing with it, you know?
02:51:20.840
Why is there so much focus on the size of a man as opposed to the tightness of a woman?
02:51:28.160
I mean, like, I mean, like a woman is going to like naturally go back to its regular size.
02:51:38.660
But what if their regular size is quite cavernous as a man likes to say?
02:51:47.580
If a woman is naturally just a gaping hole, like if that's her natural position.
02:51:54.100
Does a woman's body count affect her tightness?
02:51:58.640
Because a woman will go back to this, like, let's say I just hopped on Big John's last
02:52:10.900
It's going to, it's literally, it goes back to the same size.
02:52:15.180
I didn't even know women could stay like a bigger size.
02:52:16.960
Well, you've heard of the Kegel exercise, but women also can push out a baby and apparently
02:52:22.240
I mean, it's not like you stretched out for life just because you had sex with somebody
02:52:30.220
The other thing I hear is some people think that if a woman has a high body count, that
02:52:45.540
A virgin could have, look, I don't like these terms, but they're used.
02:52:49.760
There, there's terms like roast, roast beef, beef curtains, which I'm against.
02:52:56.640
Just want to say women, they have, they have, you guys were speaking about penis size.
02:53:01.340
Women have preferences when it comes to men's genitalia.
02:53:04.140
I happen to have a preference when it comes to women's genitalia.
02:53:13.220
If y'all can like tall dudes, I can like dwarves.
02:53:24.100
By the way, I, I, I found like a, a ketchup packet.
02:53:27.160
How much for someone to down this ketchup packet for a soup chat?
02:53:38.280
Is anyone down to shoot this Heinz ketchup packet?
02:53:57.600
Bro, you guys don't have to make it like so sexual.
02:54:21.300
I have some like three days old cake that you can have in as compensation.
02:54:28.280
You want to give me cake for eating a ketchup packet?
02:54:47.480
For just fucking shoot the ketchup packet packet?
02:54:52.300
If anybody else wants to get on this, I have a second one too, so.
02:55:00.860
Like, I have no, like, I'm not picky at all, but I will not eat ketchup.
02:55:21.560
It goes into my pocket, but you're just like a fucking legend helping me out.
02:55:25.980
Because like, I'm a broke college student trying to make it.
02:55:27.840
He can pay you back by getting you a drink after some time.
02:55:40.480
Do you recall someone at the table last stream was stepped away, and a super chat was directed
02:55:48.100
It came in, but she wasn't even there, and I said, I'll pull it back up when she's here.
02:56:00.280
It might have been Marden, so whoever that was last stream, it just occurred to me.
02:56:12.380
High body count and a long history of being single equals, not a prize.
02:56:22.180
If you have been ran through and not wifed up, it's just a red flag for men.
02:56:34.040
We'll talk about body count here in just a sec here.
02:56:37.100
Really, last quick thing on the whole 10 thing and getting slapped in the face, I think you
02:56:41.740
In terms of women being able to date across and up socioeconomic hierarchies, you're 19, correct?
02:57:23.340
You are moving in the most elite group of men that there is.
02:57:28.620
High status, physically attractive, athletes, desired by many women.
02:57:52.820
I've been with plenty and it's kind of messed up to judge someone on their parts.
02:57:58.380
The girls who are better at sex know how to blank.
02:58:08.640
I mean, the girls who are better at sex know how to.
02:58:14.000
I've been with plenty and it's kind of messed up to judge someone on.
02:58:30.960
I'm not going to dox you, but thank you very much for the super chat.
02:58:39.320
805 is the area code for Santa Barbara, so it might be somebody.
02:58:41.720
I'm from Santa Barbara, so it might be somebody I know.
02:58:50.280
Obviously, men and women want different things, but the circles you're moving in, there's not like 18, 19-year-old dudes who are like getting flown out, who are getting comped trips, who are like getting attention from like really, really, really, really high status women.
02:59:10.880
I mean, and part of that just comes down to the differences between men and women.
02:59:14.320
We both tend to value different things in people for whether it's short-term or long-term relationships.
02:59:19.960
But, you know, that kind of plays into your point about, you know, women are able to, and it's, I mean, it doesn't sound like any of them are trying to wife you up at this point.
02:59:41.780
I mean, I'm not over here like, oh, I need to be in a relationship.
02:59:46.760
I understand if that's what I wanted, but I'm smart enough to know where I can go and look for that.
02:59:53.420
I'm not going to go to no NBA player and be like, okay, I need a ring.
02:59:59.660
Well, you're, to some degree, I mean, are you, you're kind of living your best life.
03:00:05.460
You're moving in circles and getting attention from the top tier of men, from athletes who I presume are in incredible shape, physically attractive, really tall.
03:00:16.760
Like, making good money, high status, playing professional basketball, which I think is probably maybe the number second sport after football.
03:00:35.000
I don't know if it's, is it more popular than football, though?
03:00:37.720
It might be higher paying, but I don't know if it's.
03:00:39.420
I think football's second, but when I recently checked, it was the highest paying.
03:00:43.180
Well, in any case, you're basically, oh, my God, Spencer Park donated, okay.
03:00:59.480
Oh, what do you, bro, is that how you open a ketchup?
03:01:03.600
Wait, show it to the camera so they see how messed up you did it.
03:01:33.820
Have you seen that, going back to the vagina thing, have you seen that curb your enthusiasm
03:01:39.180
thing where it's like, you know, you know when women go like this, you know, this thing,
03:02:06.060
Because she said, sorry, I can't look at you, but.
03:02:09.960
Yo, W's in the chat for Giselle for fucking being a legend, for being a champion, for.
03:02:16.000
Brian could have opened it for her like a gentleman.
03:02:23.040
She actually fucking pounded a Heinz ketchup packet on stream.
03:02:30.060
That's like a, that's quite a milestone in this podcast's sordid history.
03:02:48.640
Like, you wanted to be wife, you wanted to be wifed up.
03:02:55.700
I said I'm not out here like wanting to be wifed up.
03:03:04.380
So, I'm not about to be like, okay, I'm trying to get married.
03:03:08.020
Like, that's just not off the top of my head right now.
03:03:10.780
If you're not where you want to be at life, wouldn't it be better for you to focus on trying to get there than hooking up with a bunch of random people?
03:03:28.600
How do you plan to keep men interested in you once your looks begin to fade?
03:03:34.240
I think I'm just going to have to figure that out once my looks begin to fade.
03:03:37.880
But I don't plan on just, like, sleeping around and hooking up with whoever forever.
03:03:49.320
Are you worried that's going to affect your future options, especially, like, with this chat and seeing all the men here and, like, just the culture that this has, that all of these men.
03:04:02.460
I'm not going to sit here and be like, oh, I don't care.
03:04:06.020
Like, you know, how is my future husband, if I do ever get to that point, going to think, like, how is he going to feel?
03:04:13.660
So, obviously, I feel like I could be a lot worse.
03:04:21.540
And this sort of almost ties into what you were saying about and what I was saying about how women are able to secure sexual attention from men that are higher than them in terms of socioeconomic status.
03:04:34.100
Because if you don't marry or have a long-term relationship with one of these NBA players, I honestly think you're going to be really unhappy in a future relationship.
03:04:52.820
Because you are now accustomed to a certain caliber of man, NBA player, tall, good-looking, wealthy, high social status, successful, etc.
03:05:06.720
And then there's a certain confidence that comes with being a professional athlete.
03:05:12.800
Like, just in terms, okay, I mean, we can approach that from a sexual angle.
03:05:19.920
We can approach it from just personality, all the components, right, the whole package.
03:05:24.520
Do you think the guy that you're going to marry is going to be an NBA player?
03:05:32.820
But if you don't, you've basically, and I'm sort of repeating myself, you've become so accustomed to these really attractive, really high-status dudes.
03:05:42.660
The normal travel phlebotomist isn't appealing to you anymore from a status point of view.
03:05:49.760
Well, I mean, like I said, I still do fuck with, like, regular guys.
03:06:09.080
How much money does a man have to make for you to fuck with him?
03:06:14.180
I would say for, like, a yearly or, like, monthly.
03:06:32.440
How many men your age, do you, are you have any interest in men your age?
03:06:37.440
I mean, yeah, the last dude I was just messing with who's about to be drafted, he's 19, too.
03:06:46.520
Normal guys your age are not making $100,000 a year.
03:07:05.140
So, okay, bare minimum for you in terms of financials is $100,000 a year.
03:07:18.180
I think, like, the statistic is, like, only 17% of men in the United States make over $100,000.
03:07:35.140
Most of them are in their, like, 75, like, 80s years old.
03:07:40.580
Is it, like, 40,000 for average income for a man in the U.S.?
03:07:44.040
Yeah, I believe it was 40, but it might have been a little bit more.
03:08:14.860
Anyone can submit it, but the people who run it will actually lock pages.
03:08:57.020
Here, we'll fill this out really quick for you and any other girls who want to do it.
03:09:01.720
So what are the chances to find the men of my dreams?
03:09:45.560
Yeah, like, if he's tall, not nobody, like, not nobody, like, yeah, like, stubby, but,
03:09:54.040
like, say, like, he got a little, he got a little muscle to him, I don't care.
03:10:17.300
It's, like, delusion calculator, like, what do you mean?
03:10:20.420
I think it's the chances of you finding that ideal man.
03:10:23.080
So, 2.5% of men between the ages of 20 to 40 who are 5'8 and above, who make 100K or more.
03:10:36.020
They put in any of her information, like, how hot she is, and, like, how successful she is.
03:10:42.200
But this is just pointing out the proportion of men that meet those standards.
03:10:48.320
So, who's more delusional, the average woman holding out for the rich alpha male, or the average woman holding out for the lingerie model?
03:10:55.680
Wait, you mean the average man holding out for the lingerie model?
03:11:00.720
The average woman holding out for the rich alpha male, which we just saw in that delusion calculator, or the average woman, or sorry, the average man holding out for the lingerie model?
03:11:12.400
A woman expecting, like, waiting for that man is way more delusional.
03:11:21.100
I'm just saying, like, when you say, like, do you literally mean lingerie model, or are you just speaking about beauty?
03:11:27.080
Well, what I'm saying is that the average man can work on himself.
03:11:31.420
And probably, eventually, get to a status where he's going to attract all the lingerie women.
03:11:36.900
But the average woman holding out for the rich alpha male, we see how, you know, few, based on that delusion calculator, how rare they are.
03:11:50.700
That's why I said in the beginning that men are the price, because there are way less successful, high-value men than there are beautiful women.
03:11:57.960
And throughout history, the most powerful men have usually had multiple women, so going back to our idea of monogamy, would you say that polyamory is almost, like, where we're headed based on the delusional expectations of women?
03:12:12.120
I wouldn't say that's where we're heading, but, yes, that does play into the delusion of women nowadays, for sure.
03:12:21.320
With the society heading towards polyamory, you were talking about, like, for instance, with dating apps, almost all women date the same, like, 5% to 10% of men.
03:12:35.660
Well, not all women, but they're all gravitating towards the top men.
03:12:40.940
And we see this playing out on dating apps, for example.
03:12:42.980
Most women will say, I'm only swiping on, like, 10% of men, and all women are swiping on those same 10% of men.
03:12:52.520
And then I think if you ask, I mean, we can go around the table, like, what percentage of men that, for example, you see in real life do you say, I find him attractive?
03:13:07.200
And reminder, earlier, you said that you're picky and that you have high expectations.
03:13:11.980
So in day-to-day, what percentage of men would you say you find physically attractive?
03:13:20.580
This is a really hard one because I do recognize that, like, I'm not perfect, and I don't know if my standards are necessarily realistic either, I guess.
03:13:30.600
But I find such a slim number of men attractive, especially these days.
03:13:36.840
I'm really attracted to masculinity, and men just are not masculine anymore.
03:13:49.600
Like, what are your, like, what are your, what's your definition?
03:13:51.960
Like, I want him to go to the gym, and I just want him to have.
03:13:58.100
Well, I mean, like, working out is really important to me, and then having just that super manly drive, like, waking up early, business, business, business.
03:14:10.580
But how is that, but what is that, what is that masculine?
03:14:24.360
Is that a masculine, would you consider that a masculine trait?
03:14:26.260
I mean, not necessarily, but what other things are masculine, I suppose.
03:14:33.780
A rugged jawline, broad shoulders, all of the, all of the stereotypical, basic, masculine.
03:14:44.740
But besides the physical appearance, so does masculine, like, personality traits have to do with anything?
03:14:50.860
Or are you just looking for a physically masculine man?
03:14:56.820
So you, that's, that's why, that's why I'm asking, so like.
03:14:58.740
Just based on looks, yeah, I'm looking for masculine.
03:15:02.340
But, and then if we're also including personality, yeah, I would like the masculine traits of protectiveness.
03:15:09.760
And, obviously, there's some feminine traits that I want, like caring and nurturing.
03:15:19.540
So, yeah, I would want masculine, masculine men.
03:15:22.320
And there's just, like, a severe lack of testosterone in society these days.
03:15:26.060
I just look around and I see a bunch of beta bitches and I'm not, not really into it.
03:15:31.800
Do you think that reason is because a lot of women nowadays are more masculine?
03:15:42.960
When it comes to relationships, are men more likely to be held to a masculine standard than women are held to a feminine standard?
03:15:54.860
I mean, it's so crazy because, I mean, clothing is a great example of how society relaxes in women's standards much quicker than it does with men's standards.
03:16:05.000
So, like, for instance, women have always worn, like, dresses for as long as I know clothing standards.
03:16:11.920
Until recently, now it's acceptable for women to wear pants and it's totally normal within society.
03:16:20.020
We are now just starting to see the brink of that.
03:16:22.920
So, I just think it's, like, a slower thing, but it's definitely, it's trending for both genders.
03:16:32.460
So, are you saying, like, he just has to be in, like, a modicum, I don't know if I used that word right, modicum of fitness?
03:16:40.140
Or are you saying, like, you want, like, a really, like, muscular guy?
03:16:44.880
He doesn't have to be, like, vascular, if that's what you're asking.
03:16:50.340
I want a man who's been working out and considered working out a part of his daily routine, or at least five times a week routine.
03:17:03.040
But you also said you want a guy, broad shoulders, chiseled jaw, Gaston.
03:17:08.480
What's that song from the fucking, how's it go?
03:17:24.140
Okay, I don't know where I was going with that.
03:17:41.280
Do you want a guy who's, I mean, you're kind of describing, like, a guy who's maybe an 8, 9, or 10.
03:17:51.560
But then you think you can still strive, even if you can't reach it.
03:17:53.720
But that's where the double standard comes in for you, because it's like, how are you expecting a perfect man?
03:18:00.200
How are you expecting an 8, 9, or 10 when you don't?
03:18:06.860
But I would be very happy with somebody who wouldn't be considered your standard 8, 9, or 10.
03:18:14.580
I feel like a lot of men that are in the 8, 9, and 10 range are looking in the 8, 9, and 10 range of women, too.
03:18:28.100
I am a 32-year-old man that makes $800,000 a year.
03:18:35.960
And I can tell you money doesn't not affect my dating life.
03:18:41.380
Women won't see you unless you are conventionally attractive.
03:18:44.340
Yeah, I definitely think looks are kind of like the main primary thing that has to come first.
03:18:50.920
So, Spencer, can you tell us a little bit, like, obviously, you're a successful dude, 800K a year.
03:18:59.580
Obviously, I don't know if you're prepared to submit a photo, but can you tell us a little bit about your appearance?
03:19:16.020
Women will often complain about the feminine standards placed on women.
03:19:20.280
You know, you've got to have, you know, boobs, ass, you know, you've got to have a skinny waist.
03:19:24.840
Which is more unrealistic, the masculine standards placed on men or the feminine standards placed on women?
03:19:34.100
I think it's harder to get a six-pack for a man than it is for a woman to go get a BBL.
03:19:39.620
Is it harder to grow muscles or just not overeat?
03:19:46.280
And we should maybe go around the table on this.
03:19:49.660
So, is it harder to be good-looking as a woman or as a man?
03:20:10.920
The steps it takes to be physically attractive.
03:20:25.220
Well, for example, like you said there's slim...
03:20:41.900
You just said the, like, let's say the skinny waist, right?
03:20:48.720
And if you look at male versus female strippers, you know, female strippers, you know, just basically have to be fit and slender.
03:20:56.460
Slender or curvy, I guess you would say, is the ideal body type.
03:20:59.460
What is the ideal body type for a male stripper?
03:21:01.580
He's got to have, you know, he's got to be chiseled, right?
03:21:05.200
That takes hours of, you know, you have to become a gym rat.
03:21:12.480
So, I mean, that's kind of, I think, where I'm going with this.
03:21:16.280
Like, I do 100% agree men have to put a lot of work, but just slightly depending on, like, physical time and effort.
03:21:25.320
But the reason that I'll have hard times agreeing on the harder part for women is because, like you said, slimmer waist.
03:21:31.700
And, yes, we can do the surgery, but, first of all, cost money to earn money.
03:21:36.900
Second of all, yeah, that's a cop-out a little bit.
03:21:39.280
Like, would it be as easy physically, like, naturally, biologically for me to get that waist?
03:21:44.600
I think it would be just as hard for me as for a guy.
03:21:47.340
But, yes, women, it's easier for a woman to use a cop-out in the 21st century.
03:21:51.880
Now, what if a man had a very successful status but had a dad bod versus a guy who's just, you know, broke but he's an F-boy?
03:22:02.660
I mean, is it more, is it looks over money and status for you or, you know, will be...
03:22:06.900
I might be the wrong person to ask because I like dad bod.
03:22:15.220
No, not that, but I'm saying if we talk about, you obviously, I seriously doubt that you prefer it over a man who's chiseled.
03:22:22.520
Well, yeah, well, of course, but then there are different, like, levels.
03:22:25.600
If you, you could be chiseled and very skinny, and I would prefer a dad bod over a skinny chiseled, but, of course, a good chisel, yeah, will be better than a dad bod.
03:22:38.820
Oh, so, okay, I want to, let's talk about your perfect man here.
03:22:42.240
So, and also, you're an attorney, so you're successful.
03:22:48.440
So, you're a lawyer, because my understanding is, is that you can be a lawyer but not an attorney.
03:22:58.780
Do you have something in your background that you're...
03:23:00.760
I legally don't want to tell anyone that I'm an attorney when I'm not an attorney, because then I could be accused of giving legal advice,
03:23:07.120
and then I just, legally, and also my mom is watching.
03:23:17.080
But you will be, I suspect, a high earner, correct?
03:23:29.200
And you're a content creator, and hopefully that is successful for you.
03:23:32.440
And can you tell us, in terms of, we talked a little bit about what you're looking for in terms of physical appearance,
03:23:38.660
but maybe let's talk a bit of status, let's talk education, let's talk status, education, and income.
03:23:48.080
How much money are you, would you be looking for a potential partner?
03:23:51.940
I definitely don't look at, like, how much money someone's making.
03:23:56.360
I'm looking at how much effort they're putting in, and then also how logical their effort is.
03:24:01.800
Like, if they're just wasting time at, like, MLMs, then I don't care how ambitious they are.
03:24:08.500
But if they're, you know, if they're working for something, and it's something admirable, then why not?
03:24:17.980
So, for instance, if they dropped out of high school and then went to a trade school and started their own business,
03:24:24.360
I find, first of all, plumbers, electricians, carpenters, these people make very good money.
03:24:31.040
Yeah, so I don't have any issue with a lack of education or...
03:24:37.280
Well, I mean, that's refreshing because, I mean, I think you often, a lot of, my impression is a lot of women don't want to date down socioeconomically.
03:24:46.180
Now, these tradesmen, they make good money, and what they do is incredibly valuable to society.
03:24:51.360
However, I think there's going to be an educational unevenness and perhaps an achievement uneven...
03:25:05.840
Here's why I disagree with what you're trying to say.
03:25:08.020
Like, with men, first of all, I just don't value education that much.
03:25:13.920
A lot of the people that I graduated law school with, and I'm sorry before I say this, and I thank you to my law school and to Dean Ferrari and everyone.
03:25:21.840
That being said, a lot of the people I graduated law school with are some of the dumbest human beings I've ever had the displeasure of sitting in a room with, including some of my professors.
03:25:30.420
So, I just really don't value education, and some of the smartest people I ever met are high school dropouts.
03:25:37.380
So, why am I going to be, oh, wow, you didn't waste hundreds of thousands of dollars in school like I did that I totally regret?
03:25:48.300
That's not, like, what they're asking you is, like, what they ask me.
03:25:53.180
How much do you want your desired man to make a year?
03:26:00.700
Well, I'm not sure if I totally agree with you, but Kelly, did you want to say something?
03:26:05.180
If you have a startup business that's losing money, I could be interested.
03:26:08.660
Well, I'm just saying, but you're saying that you don't care what amount of money that your man makes.
03:26:15.040
So, if you want kids, your man, your husband's going to have to support you and your kids.
03:26:20.700
So, your man's going to have to make a certain amount of money to support you guys.
03:26:26.060
Can I just say, though, that I don't think it should matter initially right when you meet the man.
03:26:31.160
For me, for instance, I believe that if he isn't where I would want him to be,
03:26:35.580
I will do everything I can as a woman to support him to get to that place.
03:26:39.840
I'll make sure that he will achieve whatever he wants to achieve.
03:26:43.620
I think that's a part of a good, healthy relationship, too.
03:26:48.100
Not just expecting him to have it right when you meet him.
03:27:00.880
So, because, I mean, and it certainly could be the case that you don't really care so much about that.
03:27:06.400
And you make some, you do raise some good arguments as far as, hey, you could be college educated and be dumb as bricks,
03:27:12.680
and it's an indoctrination factory, all this stuff, right?
03:27:15.020
But I do think that there is, they've done studies on this, and generally speaking, I think women, for example,
03:27:21.000
who have bachelor's degrees or who have higher-level graduate degrees, for example, master's and PhDs,
03:27:27.080
they've surveyed them, and they typically want to date men educationally who are on their level or higher.
03:27:34.260
So if she has a bachelor, she wants to date a guy who's at least as educated as she is.
03:27:40.200
But that survey is done by a bunch of people in the education, like, who are receiving education.
03:27:45.020
People in the education who are indoctrinated by the education.
03:27:47.880
Like, college is very indoctrinating in itself.
03:27:50.800
And then there's a lot of the, wow, you graduated college, you're a special person while you're in college.
03:27:59.500
I don't, I just feel like, I don't care about a poll of people's opinions.
03:28:03.560
Oh, I want someone who's more educated than me.
03:28:08.060
But I think for a lot of women, they're going to, if they've gone to college, most of them want someone who's at least,
03:28:13.960
because there's these articles coming out, maybe some of you have seen it, a lot of women are saying,
03:28:18.820
I'm struggling to find men who are economically attractive.
03:28:25.700
Because women are starting to now, at least in, for example, major cities,
03:28:29.700
women who have never had children, never been married, who are single,
03:28:33.680
people between the ages of 18 and 30 are out earning their male counterparts in that same demographic group in major cities across the U.S.
03:28:40.980
So a lot of women now, they're, I mean, since 1980s, there's been more women in college than men.
03:28:45.900
So for pretty much, and now women who graduate in 1980, they're now in their 60s, they're retirement age.
03:28:51.600
So we've had equality in terms of college education since 1980.
03:28:56.180
There's actually more women in college nowadays.
03:28:57.960
Yeah, it's like 60 to 40, I've heard as high as 65 to 35.
03:29:06.180
So they're going into, they're making more money.
03:29:08.400
I think a lot of positive outcomes are disproportionately to the benefit of women in these cases.
03:29:13.880
But so in any case, you mentioned, though, that you, well, let me touch on the physical thing first.
03:29:20.680
Please tell me if this is what you're, and you can look into the camera for this.
03:29:24.100
So I'm going to raise up, oh, wait, Eric, put it over, yeah, we're going to raise it up here.
03:29:29.480
Is this, would you say, this is Greg Plitt helping you stay fit?
03:29:43.220
Like, legit, actually a terrible train accident.
03:29:46.660
He obviously didn't die from being unhealthy, so.
03:29:50.760
So, Greg Plitt, would you, is this the type of guy you're going up to?
03:30:08.800
Am I going to, am I saying I'm only going to settle for just that?
03:30:12.660
But, yeah, if he was interested in me, I would consider going on a date with him very quickly.
03:30:29.260
Actually, here, I'll hold it up here first, and then I'll do it.
03:31:17.720
I'm sure, like, if you saw a beautiful woman that was out of your league, you might shoot
03:31:23.920
If someone that is out of my league wanted to date me, I absolutely would not say no.
03:31:33.880
But, I mean, you're 29 and you've never had a long-term relationship.
03:31:40.180
Like, I'll meet people and I'll try to get to know them and I just don't, like, connect
03:31:47.940
Do you feel like you're in competition with other women?
03:31:50.240
I try really hard when I notice someone that I think is, like, objectively prettier than
03:31:59.480
me to, like, internalize, oh, I might be experiencing jealousy right now.
03:32:03.660
I should definitely try extra hard to be nice to that person.
03:32:07.620
So, whenever I feel jealousy, like, the first thing I do is try to recognize that I'm feeling
03:32:14.120
jealous and then go out of my way to be nice to that person because usually the prettier
03:32:18.860
the girl is, the meaner other women are to her.
03:32:22.420
So, I try to be really, I don't know, my competition with them.
03:32:27.360
Yeah, like, I'm not going to, like, you know, I'm probably not going to get that guy if,
03:32:34.240
you know, if Giselle and I are walking down the street, Giselle's going to get that guy
03:32:42.040
I'm not, I'm okay not being the top prettiest chick on this panel.
03:32:47.520
So, then, I just, that, I just, the way that you feel about that doesn't line up with your
03:32:55.000
Because, like, you have, you have expectations of, like, a man, but then it's, like.
03:32:59.800
It's not that I'm, it's not that I'm holding out.
03:33:06.900
Giselle loose the tattoos and lips find a ring that fits.
03:33:18.060
Ladies, what is the first thing you notice about a guy?
03:33:28.300
First thing you notice is a guy, and then you guys continue your little back and forth.
03:33:35.320
Okay, well, I notice, like, how he physically takes care of himself, whether that's, like,
03:33:42.240
if he does his hair, or if I can tell he takes care of, like, maybe his skin or his fashion.
03:33:48.080
And then personality-based, I know, I observe his actions, the way he treats me or other
03:33:54.440
women, like, open the door, like, chivalry type of things.
03:34:01.400
I would just do, like, I don't know, like, facial.
03:34:04.780
I like facial hair or, like, I guess how they dress.
03:34:13.540
If you see that they, like, visibly take care of themselves, and also teeth, I really like
03:34:24.660
Like, if I see somebody with straight teeth, that's super attractive.
03:34:33.400
Like, like I said, I don't mind a man who's a little bit bigger, but if he got a nice face,
03:34:49.980
I look for the hair, and then, like, the way they dress.
03:34:54.940
What I look for, what I notice, I forgot the question.
03:35:01.420
Then it's, like, the beefiness of their shoulders and breasts.
03:35:10.120
I think, like, overall body, like, how tall he is, and also if he's taking care of his
03:35:26.300
By the way, Spencer came in here really quick, so I'm going to address it.
03:35:28.880
Sorry, Spencer, that we're, the little delay on getting to this.
03:35:37.940
Actually, before we pull it up, is it okay if we, I mean, he included it, so I'm assuming
03:35:49.340
Is it cool if we pull up, you cool if we pull up your Instagram?
03:35:54.040
I don't, I mean, I'm assuming it's okay because you included it in the soup chat.
03:35:59.320
Why would he say it if he doesn't want it to show it up?
03:36:03.480
I just don't, I mean, I don't know if he wants us to.
03:36:10.860
I believe since he announced it through a donation, it would be okay.
03:36:14.520
I just want to be considerate of Spencer Parker.
03:36:23.660
Spencer Park, San Diego, home test box, 007, fast land.
03:36:44.460
Let's see that photo of him with the palm trees.
03:36:51.400
Wait, no, actually, I don't know how to see that.
03:37:06.520
Okay, all right, a bit of a, is that a dad bod kind of?
03:37:38.800
That's you in, there's a, is that a sex in the city?
03:37:48.280
Is this you in the, oh my God, look at this man.
03:38:16.880
What happened in, oh, it is an eight year difference.
03:38:22.260
I think you should bring back the emo hair, bro.
03:38:52.160
Rock that maroon, button down with the shoulder pads and the, is that a gray suit?
03:39:01.620
This is like a Onizuka, great teacher Onizuka costume.
03:39:32.100
I don't know anything about his personality, so I can't say.
03:39:45.560
I also don't know, not even that, it's like you can't, I'm not going to sit here and say
03:39:52.780
Just based off of the Instagram and that he's a giga, Chad making 800K a year, that puts
03:40:11.880
It's just because Asian guys remind me of my brother.
03:40:52.360
They just come off, like, I get so close, like, they're just my friends.
03:40:55.820
Like, they give me, like, my brother, like, they remind me so much, like, the way that
03:41:01.700
They remind me so much of my brother that it's like.
03:41:05.580
That I have, like, that I have, like, a brotherly relationship with most Asian men that I meet.
03:41:11.800
Wait, can you scoot your chair into the table so we can get you a little better posture?
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And can everyone push their cups into the table just a little bit?
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Like, most of the, like, I don't know too many Asian guys because I didn't grow up in, like,
03:41:35.720
Yeah, so not too many Asians, but, yeah, like, they, they, they, like, every single Asian
03:41:42.480
guy that I have, I have met and, like, I have, like, some kind of, like, friendship
03:41:49.260
And I, I, I can't, I don't know, I can't describe it.
03:41:56.820
Yeah, like, they have the same personality traits as, like, my brother.
03:42:04.640
No, no, no, I'm not saying that, just the ones that I've, that I've met.
03:42:24.240
Yeah, there's a, I've met, like, I've met a lot of them, yeah.
03:42:37.340
Definitely, it sounds, like, not Vietnamese because your brother's Vietnamese, so that's, like,
03:42:40.900
yeah, Vietnamese, like, I don't know, it's just, like, we, we're two alike.
03:42:45.520
You know, like, I'm, I can, I can relate to you so much that I can't learn anything from
03:43:02.560
Okay, what about, um, I'm running out of Asian countries.
03:43:30.360
We were talking about if you would date that guy on Instagram, and then we were going around.
03:43:35.500
I'm missing, like, at least one or two of the Southeast Asian countries.
03:44:13.100
I'm like, I'm just, just based off, like, who I've met, because, like I've said, like,
03:44:17.420
I've, I grew up some, I don't meet that many people.
03:44:21.600
You know, like, my high school is, like, most mainly, like, white people, and, like, so
03:45:10.340
Or you can't really teach me new things about culture.
03:45:15.060
Is that really a primary thing you care about though?
03:45:41.260
And he goes to extremes to try to teach me more about black culture.
03:45:46.580
And he tries to help me understand it better so that I have a better understanding of him.
03:45:51.520
I don't think I've ever heard a girl say that one of the primary things they care about is learning.
03:46:01.720
But learning about a potential partner's culture.
03:46:06.820
I mean, like, why wouldn't you want to learn about how they grew up and like how...
03:46:09.980
what their family traditions are like and how they...
03:46:15.540
Like, I want to teach my kids about Vietnamese traditions.
03:46:19.540
What did you learn about black culture that you didn't know before?
03:46:24.780
I honestly, like, before even dating my boyfriend now, I'm not going to lie,
03:46:36.600
He made me open my eyes more about a lot of things that...
03:46:43.060
But, like, I don't think anybody in this room would really understand.
03:46:48.800
But, like, there's a lot of things that go into black culture that somebody who isn't black is not going to understand unless it's taught to them.
03:46:59.000
I don't know if it's, like, really been taught like that, if you've really learned about it like that.
03:47:03.520
But, like, when it's coming from somebody who is so passionate about it and is so passionate about you learning about it,
03:47:12.360
You form a deeper understanding of it, which is why it means so much to me.
03:47:24.900
And there's something beautiful about, like, exchanging cultures.
03:47:43.380
Like, he's very, like, passionate about his culture, which is...
03:47:47.380
Which was why I would say it's unfair of me to disregard it and not want to learn about it more.
03:47:52.500
Because if he cares about it so much, why should I make him feel like I don't care about it?
03:47:57.580
Well, I mean, I think it's great that you want to learn about his culture.
03:48:04.300
In terms of an attraction trigger, I've never heard someone say, learning about, like, it would...
03:48:11.580
I would not be attracted to someone if I could not learn from their culture.
03:48:19.040
And if that's the case for you, hey, that's totally fine.
03:48:25.360
I don't know, it's not just, like, just the culture thing.
03:48:30.760
Like, I like to learn from, like, anything, like, that he can teach me, you know?
03:48:36.080
Like, if we have the same experiences, if we're on this, like, you know, if we've done the same thing our whole lives, if we're not...
03:48:42.440
You know how people say, like, opposites attract?
03:48:44.200
Like, if we're, like, the same, then I'm not really learning from you that much, like...
03:48:50.660
Well, I think opposites attract is kind of bullshit.
03:48:56.840
No, I was just saying that in general, like, you know how, like, people will say that, like, that's...
03:49:00.620
I'm not saying that's exactly how I feel, like, it's...
03:49:09.680
What about an Asian guy who was raised by white parents?
03:49:18.040
Like, I've never, like, talked to a guy, like, an Asian guy who was raised by white parents, so I wouldn't know.
03:49:23.740
And I just wanted to ask something about your culture also.
03:49:25.540
What do you think about all the American men traveling to Asian countries to find wives?
03:49:30.660
I mean, what do you think about women in those cultures and how they treat their men?
03:49:34.440
I think the reason why they're leaving this country to go to different countries to find wives is because of that.
03:50:04.760
Is there a dot also at the end, or is that just a period?
03:50:09.920
Do you think that those women treat their men a certain way because they want to, or because they're forced to?
03:50:21.080
Not that they're forced to, but it's just the culture.
03:50:24.720
The culture is different in Vietnam than it is here.
03:50:29.440
Women in other cultures are taught to be submissive to their man.
03:50:35.460
They're not supposed to be, they're not taught to be the man of the relationship.
03:50:43.360
They're taught to be nurturing, like actual feminine traits.
03:50:47.080
Like we're taught, that's how we're, that's how we're taught to be wives.
03:50:50.760
We're not here to cause issues for our husband.
03:50:54.300
We're not here to cause, we're not trying to nag them all the time.
03:50:57.120
We're not trying to be on their ass all the time about stuff.
03:50:58.900
Like we just, all we wanted to do is bring peace to them.
03:51:01.540
And that's how, I don't, in my culture, that's all, that's, that's how I was taught to grow up.
03:51:07.320
Do you, do you think those women are ignorant slaves or are they happy?
03:51:13.560
You know, obviously like women, you know, you don't have to, you don't have to do that, but that's just culture.
03:51:20.480
Why do you, why do you think that a lot of American women can't learn from those women and say, okay.
03:51:25.400
I can't answer that for you because I have no idea why.
03:51:32.880
Oh, let's react to Spencer's girlfriend, Michaela Noel.
03:51:42.940
Why is he in none of the pictures though, if it's his girlfriend?
03:51:45.900
How long have you guys been dating, confirm or deny?
03:52:01.200
Was that, was that, what was the original question?
03:52:11.620
I'd have to see her in person, you know, so maybe you guys can be on the show.
03:52:19.880
We have to, we definitely have to get caught up on super chats.
03:52:22.100
Sorry that we're finally getting to these guys.
03:52:34.840
If you have one, you go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
03:52:39.560
If you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to your Twitch.
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Quick, free, easy way to support the show every single month.
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PapaGSky, thanks for the five community subs, man.
03:53:32.880
But, again, sorry guys that we're finally getting to these.
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Like, we do get pretty much every super chat that's above the threshold.
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Kudos to Scrawny Hawk for asking the good questions.
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Living your best life today, i.e. being a 304, lowers your chances of finding a high-quality
03:54:17.640
husband in the future, looking at you, NBA girl.
03:54:21.940
Spencer, your Aston is a GT car, not a super car.
03:54:37.380
Really appreciate all the support, guys, tonight.
03:54:40.480
Just a reminder, mid-chat, I know I mentioned at the beginning of the stream, if you're
03:54:44.200
going to super chat, YouTube takes a 30% cut, so if you can, you don't have to, it's
03:54:51.180
fine if you super chat, but I'm just throwing it out there.
03:54:53.160
If you want more of your patronage to actually go towards whatever and not in the pockets
03:55:03.020
Either way, we're going to read everything, but just want to let you guys know that that's
03:55:06.000
an option, too, and it's 50 and up to read, whether it's on super chat or on Streamlabs
03:55:12.100
So, okay, we have this one here from, by the way, her, and thank you for that $50 super
03:55:19.880
Lawyer girl, women love to say she wants a man who is consistent and follows through,
03:55:25.560
but eventually, why do women call men boring and predictable?
03:55:33.160
I think it's, that might be a problem with society and our hookup dating culture.
03:55:43.380
That being said, me personally, I don't find predictability boring.
03:55:48.540
I enjoy knowing where, person that, I enjoy knowing what's up with my relationship, if
03:56:01.260
Would you rather be in a drama-filled relationship for the excitement or a boring relationship
03:56:07.360
I have no desire to be in a drama-filled anything.
03:56:10.360
I, like, if, if I start dating, that's another reason, like, as soon as someone, like, I started
03:56:15.840
dating someone in law school, he was really great, really liked him, and then he just
03:56:19.520
always wanted to start drama with me over nonsense, so.
03:56:32.460
Deal breaker if a guy doesn't go, won't go down on you.
03:56:49.740
Deal breaker if a guy doesn't want to go down on you.
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Doesn't like to go down, in general, let's say.
03:56:57.380
No, because it's, like, if, like, they don't, like, like it either, like, that's cool.
03:57:09.140
Then no, you're not getting head if you're not giving it.
03:57:31.760
There was a news article that came out that apparently oral sex is, and this is my, I heard this from, who was it?
03:57:40.660
Who's that guy, that famous actor, the dad of Charlie Sheen, I think?
03:57:47.520
In any case, he had throat cancer, and he thinks it's from eating pussy.
03:57:56.240
He thinks he got throat cancer because he was eating too much pussy.
03:57:59.360
But actually, it's, okay, I'm not a doctor, but if you have HPV, I think that it can cause something like that.
03:58:09.940
Eric, do you want to find that recent news article, just something like throat cancer, oral sex, okay, which apparently impacts men more for some reason, okay.
03:58:29.880
The conversation, that's not, I don't think that's a reputable website.
03:58:38.780
New York Post, that's slightly more reputable, maybe.
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Medical News Today, that, scroll down, let's see what else.
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Huh, Jerry Springer died of oral sex, what, huh?
03:58:56.060
When you get cancer, can they tell you how you got it for certain?
03:58:58.420
Business Insider, oral sex is the leading risk factor for a throat cancer.
03:59:07.360
But, guys, you in America usually get the vaccine, so I think you're...
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Top of the morning, Brian, have some money for your inhumane patients.
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Does it make a difference if it's men or women giving oral sex?
04:00:17.500
Is it, like, the type of cancer you're saying that you could then trace it to...
04:00:21.300
Okay, if it's the type of cancer, you could then trace it to the vagina?
04:00:24.720
Is that what I'm asking versus, like, whether it's tobacco versus...
04:00:28.540
Like, can you look at the type of throat cancer and determine, oh, that's a vagina throat cancer,
04:00:36.940
I think you can test for HPV, and if there's...
04:00:39.500
I assume they do some sort of swabbing, or maybe they get...
04:00:46.520
They could take a biopsy and determine, hmm, there's some HPV here.
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Deal breaker if a guy doesn't want to go down on you.
04:01:05.380
So after this, I do got to get going, because I got, like, a two-hour drive back.
04:01:48.520
If you find yourself being with a lot of celebrities, but none has wifed you up,
04:01:52.660
they are telling their celeb group that you're an easy lay and you're just getting passed
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And once we get through these Super Chats, we're going to wrap up here pretty soon.
04:02:14.840
Brian and Lauren, please ask Red Girl elaborate on that.
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I think a lot of people are tripping about the way I spend my time, and everybody has
04:02:41.800
I haven't been reading the chat, so I don't know.
04:02:51.280
So I just feel like if I'm young now and I choose to live how I live, that's just how
04:03:09.980
Women are typically fat, entitled military wives that don't know anything of military
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I'm a prior AD Air Force guy and deployed and lived in many countries and military wives
04:03:36.700
Any man on social media has the capability to message you, call you, video chat you, send
04:03:43.780
Honestly, your boyfriend sounds like a little simp, but I have a doctor who can raise his
04:03:53.620
I'm sure he does have a doctor that can give him testosterone.
04:04:02.080
Are you saying that a ventide fallacy is on steroids?
04:04:10.160
Because he's saying to raise his testosterone levels.
04:04:18.120
Do you want to say anything to ventide fallacy?
04:04:28.040
I know you sent this like three or two hours ago.
04:04:28.660
Are you saying that because of the testosterone?
04:04:30.880
Like, the added testosterone does actually make your genitalia shrivel up, right?
04:04:37.580
I was genuinely thinking that before you said it.
04:04:41.180
No, that really wasn't what I was thinking, but I just...
04:04:57.920
Everything is so much easier and better when I decided to give my boyfriend a chance.
04:05:04.000
The complete opposite of what I used to look for.
04:05:06.940
Submitted to a man for the first time and respect his boundaries instead of fighting him.
04:05:18.560
Because she just said, I decided to give my boyfriend a chance.
04:05:34.140
I don't know if that was directed at you, was it?
04:05:36.660
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
04:05:39.360
No, because I said that's fucked up when she was reading the comment because I felt like
04:05:52.140
Why is dating advice usually about advising men to step up to women rather than telling
04:05:58.300
women to settle for more average men like they did in the past?
04:06:07.500
Dating advice is usually about telling men to, you know, they have to sculpt themselves
04:06:12.920
In other words, why are men still expected to be what women want if women are no longer
04:06:17.840
Well, I would say that I think women need to start changing themselves because we're
04:06:24.740
Like you said, oh, I don't know if you were the one that said it, but we're the ones with
04:06:34.680
Yes, we're going to have lots of men who are like throwing themselves at us just because
04:06:39.340
of the fact that we're women, but we are the ones who are choosing which men we want
04:06:47.480
And related to that, do you think that it's fair for women to complain about men when they're
04:06:53.800
No, absolutely not because it's unfair for us to be choosing and having such high standards
04:06:57.820
because women are going to put their standards so high, but then they're not realizing that
04:07:03.420
the men who are in those standards are not looking for the...
04:07:08.580
These women that are asking for that, these are not the type of women that those men are
04:07:11.820
And do you think that women's delusional standards require men to set delusional goals?
04:07:21.820
I think the change has to be with the women first.
04:07:37.720
A bad wife will make you a philosopher, Black Socrates Prowley.
04:07:46.180
And Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 is a pretty good game.
04:07:53.120
And then we had this one come in from Eddie Scripto.
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Is that just the nicest thing you've ever heard?
04:08:31.960
Brian, you are the Jerry Springer of podcasting,
04:08:33.880
and I do mean that as a compliment to the Asian gal.
04:08:35.960
I respect you for wanting a man who broadens your horizons.
04:08:53.660
Ladies, what's the weirdest thing that you consistently find sexy
04:09:04.780
or I lose it between the knees for guys who play Dungeons and Dragons.
04:09:30.140
Like, you know, like, when certain people got that, like, crazy look to them.
04:09:37.840
Like, when you just look at them, and you just, like, be like, yeah, it looks a little crazy.
04:09:49.860
It's just, like, you know, you, like, you ever seen You?
04:10:00.840
Like, I'm not saying I'm into stalkers, but he's, like, a stalker, and he's got...
04:10:15.620
Yeah, but I'm, like, I'm not into stalkers, just, like...
04:10:18.780
Those people that just, like, you look at them, and you're, like, yeah, he looks a little crazy.
04:10:26.040
But, uh, I mean, I've seen studies that women are attracted to a criminality component in men.
04:10:33.280
Well, it doesn't necessarily have to be, like...
04:10:36.080
There can be people that's not, like, a criminal and still kind of...
04:10:53.180
A little more excitement, but also, like, they are also the type that could probably slap you around.
04:11:01.280
Would you ever do one of those prison dating websites?
04:11:07.520
I mean, would you literally go to the website and troll...
04:11:15.280
Would you literally troll through a website like that looking for a pen pal?
04:11:20.040
Actually, I've actually licked on it because I've seen it on TikTok at one point...
04:11:30.400
I was like, oh, you know, some of them are actually, like, really cute, but they're, like, serial killers or something.
04:11:35.580
So, you're not okay with them being a serial killer?
04:11:38.220
What if they just killed, like, one or two people?
04:11:40.000
I mean, if it was, like, a freak accident, that's different, but, like, if he had intentions, like, I'm gonna go in there and...
04:11:57.240
And she wanted to promote other dudes in prison?
04:12:01.440
It was just, like, yeah, I think she had a man...
04:12:04.940
She's like, oh, how I found my husband that's in prison, da-da-da, like, type thing.
04:12:09.780
And I just went and licked, like, I never really...
04:12:21.260
Bro, the chick in the purple look like Lola Scumpy from Big Mouth.
04:12:35.380
You seen the episode where she's, like, I put sunscreen all over my butt cheeks.
04:12:50.940
Like, it's kind of attractive if a guy's, like, a little fucking crazy or, like, a little...
04:12:58.320
A little toxic or a little bad boy or a little asshole.
04:13:04.960
Like, we can't really disagree or agree with her personal opinion.
04:13:11.760
But we can't disagree or agree with her opinion.
04:13:15.260
He's asking, like, would you agree, like, in yourself?
04:13:21.760
But at the same time, like, we have different people.
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I don't like nobody I can't go out the country with.
04:13:39.260
Like, if you can't go to certain countries, I can't do that.
04:13:54.780
I definitely feel like he was trying to be something he wasn't.
04:14:14.660
Drug dealer, including, like, selling weed at college.
04:14:23.240
I mean, it's interesting because there is, like, a subset of women that will, like,
04:14:27.920
become pen pals with these men in prison and will marry them.
04:14:32.060
And that's kind of an interesting pathology, I think, but...
04:14:36.900
I think I know the girl that you're talking about.
04:14:48.820
You know exactly where your husband is at all times.
04:14:52.040
I think it's different when you just, like, message them or something.
04:14:55.500
But, like, getting in a whole relationship with somebody that you physically cannot see
04:15:04.000
Why do men have to put on an act to be the bad boy to attract women while women have
04:15:11.120
to put on an act to be sweet and submissive to get a man?
04:15:16.720
It plays into male femininity and masculine roles.
04:15:21.380
But do you think that is genuine or do you think it's an act?
04:15:26.880
I wouldn't say it's an act because some men are just naturally masculine.
04:15:34.240
Are you able to, like, what signs do you look for to know if it's genuine?
04:15:41.320
Like, you can tell if, like, if he's trying to act hard and all of this, blah, blah, blah.
04:15:45.780
But then he's put in a situation where he needs to act hard and he doesn't do it.
04:15:51.420
So going back to you, would you prefer someone who's genuinely crazy or someone who's just putting
04:16:00.940
Like, I like him, like, for realness, you know?
04:16:14.540
You know what's interesting to me is women very often complain about men being jerks,
04:16:20.860
Yet, these are the types of men that they find themselves attracted to and choose.
04:16:29.320
And it's just, it's interesting to me that, I mean, it's just, you don't see men, like,
04:16:36.480
Like, if a girl, if I detect, like, any sort of criminality, I detect, like, and men want,
04:16:46.560
Like, we don't want, the last thing we want is that kind of energy in our lives.
04:16:51.580
So it's just very interesting, the differences there.
04:16:54.980
And I think one component of it is men who demonstrate a degree of criminality.
04:16:59.600
I think it almost plays into, like, provide a protector.
04:17:02.320
Like, a man who's willing to basically break the law to do something, he, in some view,
04:17:08.500
is more capable of providing for you because he's willing to bend rules.
04:17:14.140
And also, there's a component of protection, too, because I think criminality coincides with
04:17:19.180
And men who are capable of violence are more attractive to women because women don't want
04:17:24.060
to be with a guy who would not be prepared to protect them in some sort of situation where
04:17:36.220
So we want to get everyone on this question really quick, if you can, if you guys recall
04:17:42.160
Actually, before that, before I pull that back up, chat's been dying for us to talk about
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Yeah, it's the dark triad, narcissism, what are the, do you know what the, for the dark
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It's narcissism, Machiavellianism, can anyone in the chat help me?
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Who, show of hands, should, does body count matter, should body count matter?
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Or do you object to men caring about body count?
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I think it really depends on like, sorry, I think it really depends on like, if this man
04:18:34.760
is out there doing whatever, banging whatever, like has like a high body count, he should
04:18:40.680
least expect to find a woman that's like pure, like really pure to like a body count of like
04:18:46.780
two or three because that's very double standard and it's like, you didn't even try to like
04:19:00.040
So, well, I mean, speaking of double standards, do you think that in order for you to desire a trait in a partner,
04:19:23.900
For example, let's say a guy who has a, he has a high body count.
04:19:35.060
I mean, I'm not saying like he's wrong because that's like how men are going to want it,
04:19:41.140
but I'm saying like you can't have your cake and eat it too, you know what I mean?
04:19:44.560
Well, so the question is though, do you think that in order for you to desire something in a partner,
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and this is a question for all of you, do you think in order to desire something in a partner,
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So, I don't think it's a double standard that even men with high body counts want women with low body counts
04:20:10.240
in the same way that, for example, women who are short like men who are tall
04:20:15.060
or women who have no confidence are attracted to men who do have confidence
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or women who are not funny want a guy who's funny.
04:20:23.120
I don't think that there needs to be a reciprocity necessarily in all the traits that we desire in each other.
04:20:32.540
The question I have about body count with men is why are there some men who will shame women
04:20:40.520
for having high body counts but then also complain how hard it is to get laid?
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But I would assume that the difference is there are some men treat this like it's sport.
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There are some women who are recreational use only and some women who are wives.
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And I think if a man is going to settle down with a woman,
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he doesn't want someone that everyone else has had that someone's been ran through.
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I mean, I just, I never ask, like, when we're going to just be like,
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I think it matters scientifically because of pair bonding.
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So just who here doesn't care about body count or how about, here's a better question.
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Do you object to men if they cared about your body count, for example?
04:21:54.760
No, because I can understand why a man would not want to be with a woman who's been with
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Same no, but then I should be allowed to judge him based on that same thing.
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So, for those of you, I mean, I guess everyone can answer, but some of you said body count
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I mean, it's not bad, but it's just like, that's more, that's more like secret to me.
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I give you like a range, but I'm not going to give you like a pinpoint number.
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Well, I'm on the same point because I wouldn't want to share, not because I had too many,
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It's not zero, and I wish it was, and my parents are watching, and just the fact that I even
04:23:24.120
admit that it's not zero, I think is enough shame for my father for tonight.
04:23:33.600
Like, I'm just not going to give my number because my dad's watching, and I love my father.
04:23:42.520
Who's more likely to lie about their body count, men or women?
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Don't men lie about having more, and women lie about having less?
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My body count, which I am disappointed in, it's six.
04:23:56.900
Well, some of you answered, some of you didn't, but?
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Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
04:24:08.860
Let's continue on with the soup chats, and then let's wrap up here pretty soon.
04:24:12.280
All right, we have, did it, if you guys can try to be quick, just so we can get through
04:24:17.260
the soup chats, did anyone want to come in on this, like a little interesting thing that
04:24:23.180
Yeah, oh, I think that maybe other people would find it a bit weird, but I really love
04:24:27.740
assertiveness, and when they kind of control, like, everything that happens in my life.
04:24:33.220
So, like, even if we go out to dinner, like, he's picking what I'm eating or something, but
04:24:36.940
that may come across weird to other people, that I let another human being decide everything
04:24:42.720
And are you talking about, like, I mean, this is within the realm of, like, the kink community,
04:24:51.680
So, sorry, just to, like, to clarify, would you ever consider being the 24-7 lifestyle?
04:25:02.380
I mean, I'm talking about when I'm in the relationship, he can order me to do whatever
04:25:22.580
Yeah, that's how I would hope my relationship is, yeah.
04:25:25.560
Well, I think when you're referencing 24-7, you're specifically talking about BDSM, right?
04:25:31.420
You're talking, like, because for some people, they want the dumb sub dynamic strictly in
04:25:37.160
But some people, that extends into the broader relationship.
04:25:40.700
Maybe it's not everything, but there's some components that seep into the relationship.
04:25:45.860
And for some, it's everything is within the frame of this dumb sub dynamic, so.
04:25:54.640
Yeah, everything, as far as even my clothing, too, if he wants to choose what I wear, like
04:26:05.740
Okay, do you have an interesting thing that just gets you going?
04:26:14.540
He's got an eye tattoo, like a teardrop or some shit.
04:26:28.320
I just love it when they just, like, consume just odd food condiments and shit.
04:26:36.320
I got a mustard packet in the back if you're down, Giselle.
04:26:59.400
When they, like, do stuff, like, themselves and, like...
04:27:03.000
Like, my boyfriend will move, like, his apartment.
04:27:05.120
Like, he moved apartments and he would move all of it by himself.
04:27:29.900
Like, I don't even have to ask if he needs help because he's going to say...
04:27:38.500
When you saw him doing that, were you like, babe, put down the mattress.
04:27:47.160
If he's willing to, like, get on with my quirks and has, like, childlike quirks of his
04:27:55.520
I like when the guy can cook and does it with passion and, like, cook something and I'm like,
04:28:41.360
If your man isn't putting boundaries on you, you are not the wife zone for him.
04:28:47.700
It should be a relief for you when a man starts to try and rein you in.
04:28:51.620
It's because he loves you and doesn't want you in a certain light.
04:28:56.660
Like, if a guy isn't serious about you, like, if he just doesn't give a fuck about you, he's
04:29:04.720
But if he actually is interested in you, I think it's a good sign.
04:29:08.800
So, and that's actually somewhat related to body count, too.
04:29:11.360
If a guy gets curious about your past and your body count, it could potentially disqualify
04:29:16.920
you, but I think guys who are asking that question, I think women shouldn't view it as, oh, that's
04:29:25.180
That actually means that he's probably serious about you if he's asking that kind of question
04:29:29.440
because he's trying to, like, do a bit of screening.
04:29:32.400
So, whereas a guy who's just, like, wants to fucking chuck you, like, he probably doesn't
04:29:46.580
But we, I think we already got a fit check, if I recall.
04:29:56.300
I don't know if you're from the French-speaking part of, if you're Kevacois or whatever, but
04:30:09.420
For the OnlyFans' wannabe moms, when your son or daughter comes home emotionally damaged
04:30:17.660
because of your OnlyFans' sight, do you take responsibility or blame men for your situation
04:30:49.260
I would definitely, if I were to have children, that would be something, I would just take
04:30:54.900
responsibility for it, but it's also not something that I'm wanting.
04:31:05.360
You can pull that one back up in the sec here, Eric.
04:31:16.220
The problem with the relationship between men and women today is the lack in the natural
04:31:21.860
Men represent what women cannot, and women represent what men cannot.
04:32:06.020
Thank you for the outfit compliment, but I will have to refuse the dinner.
04:32:22.260
Well, you let him slide into your DMs and learn about him, and then maybe he gets into
04:32:27.300
Maybe you could be attracted to him after he slides into said DMs, and then maybe you could
04:32:31.160
I don't answer any of my DMs, so I mean, if he did, then he would get lost in the abyss.
04:32:52.800
It's like a mini anime thing, and he's wearing a sombrero.
04:33:10.320
Warcraft, rabbits, think of the 50, women's standards, bend time, space, a man who works
04:33:14.060
out all the time, works all the time, spends all his time with me and the family, these
04:33:18.040
expectations plus society, haranguing to man up to meet him, wait, haranguing to man
04:33:23.360
up to meet him equals deletion, funny watching Brian stagger?
04:33:32.100
That's obviously a typo he's talking about, my fucking, okay.
04:33:36.800
Dav with the big merci beaucoup pour la canadienne 280, merci, c'est vraiment génial ça, merci.
04:33:47.700
Latina Blackpink, 9.5, Humble Silent Bob, 7, Art Major Sniffles, 6.5, Rookie of the Year,
04:34:05.080
Isn't your thing on Instagram, like, you're a dim sum restaurant?
04:34:08.540
Okay, Babushka with the 6, her granddaughter with the 8, Brian's hot lawyer sister, yeah,
04:34:16.620
we're related, with the 8, Tony Hawk and his huge Toshiba laptop, god damn, that thing's
04:34:23.820
a tank, holy shit, Brian, closer to the mic, Atlas 7.5, apologies for the interruption.
04:34:33.900
Well, thank you very much there for the official rating for tonight, coming all the way from
04:34:41.660
And then we had Doc Venables with the 100, with no message there, but Doc, your soup chat
04:34:48.540
is greatly appreciated, thank you for the patronage, it's very welcome, thank you, Doc.
04:34:54.360
And he did a subsequent one, too, another one, Doc, thank you so much for the support tonight,
04:35:00.320
And finally, he figured out how to use his keyboard, Doc, Giselle, you are beautiful,
04:35:05.060
sensible, and classy, may I introduce you to my half-Cuban son, Summa Cum Laude,
04:35:13.500
Summa Cum Laude, soon-to-be lawyer in a sweet alpha male, Patria y Vida, did I,
04:35:32.200
I will have to politely decline again, I'm just at a point in my life where I'm...
04:35:46.560
I'm not accepting anyone at the moment, or seeing anyone at the moment, because I want
04:35:51.480
to focus on getting myself to the best place that I can be to be the perfect wife one day,
04:35:56.960
so that's just what I'm focused on at the moment.
04:35:58.960
Okay, and then final super chat, Sugar Bomb B-13 with a 50, Giselle wants the Patrick Bateman type.
04:36:22.000
Here, let me just ask, maybe this is a clarifying question.
04:36:33.140
Their early work was a little too new wave for my taste, but when sports came out in 83,
04:36:37.780
they really came into their own, both creatively and artistically.
04:36:41.560
I'd say their undisputed masterpiece has to be Hip to be Square, a song so catchy, most
04:36:46.780
people don't even listen to the lyrics, but they should.
04:37:12.220
Okay, that's all the soup chats, that's all the donations.
04:37:14.720
Guys, if you want, get your last minute soup chats in.
04:37:16.520
Otherwise, we're going to wrap up here pretty soon in a couple minutes.
04:37:21.920
So, before we wrap, and I wish I got to this question earlier, one of the things I often
04:37:26.940
like to ask is, is there anything dating related that you want to get off your chest?
04:37:35.200
I wish I asked it earlier, but the conversation was just flowing.
04:37:37.780
So, I know it's getting late here, but does anyone have a final thought or question or something
04:37:47.140
I'd like to just ask the ladies, if you, each of you, were looking for a quality man,
04:37:55.460
I would, that's why I want to find a job and look for a man in this circle, like in my
04:38:03.280
career, what I'm pursuing, so, because I'm going to be on a certain level, and he's going
04:38:07.840
to be on a certain level, and then we are going to be, well, more compatible.
04:38:12.920
So, yeah, we're going to match each other much more if we are going to be in the same
04:38:21.560
So, you just kind of leave it up to fate, or you kind of like manifest it into your life,
04:38:27.960
or do you actually like want to go seek, seek it out?
04:38:31.100
Definitely not seek it out, more of just like fate, like whatever, however it happens.
04:38:38.720
You know, I like to ask women, why is it when it comes to their education or their career,
04:38:42.600
being assertive and going after what you want is a good quality?
04:38:51.080
I feel like with women, like I feel like me saying what I want, or me saying what I'm
04:38:57.660
like doing, I don't know, I feel like that's a big problem for certain people.
04:39:02.000
Do you feel like that's a masculine quality, like it's just something that, that's what
04:39:06.700
I just, from my understanding with relationships, that if one person is going to be the dominant
04:39:12.300
person, and if you are an aggressor in a relationship, then you're taking that dominant
04:39:17.880
role away from your male partner, and then your male partner is not going to be giving
04:39:23.840
you the masculine, like energy that you're desiring out of a relationship.
04:39:29.300
If I'm constantly pursuing men, I'm going to end up with a beta man.
04:39:33.940
Well, I will say that I, despite me being very submissive, when I know that I like someone,
04:39:40.840
I do make it evident to them, and I do, I actually prefer to make the move rather than
04:39:48.440
That's actually surprising, because you seem very submissive.
04:39:51.540
I am very submissive, however, I am also peculiar in what I want, and the certain energy
04:39:57.580
that I want a man to give me, I need to pick that out, so that's why, I guess, maybe I'm
04:40:07.820
A certain dominant energy that a lot of men seem to lack nowadays, but I'm just saying
04:40:17.980
that, like, in my past, the man that I, one of my exes, who I did approach, that was the
04:40:23.940
best dominant submissive relationship I had, honestly.
04:40:27.580
Um, but also to answer your question, I think women should be told that, uh, I don't really
04:40:35.660
I think the worry, at least for me, would be, even, like, when I was, uh, before I, I had
04:40:40.280
my boyfriend, um, if you just sit around and wait for a guy to approach you, how do you
04:40:45.980
know it's going to be a good guy that comes along?
04:40:47.920
How are you going to, how are you going to know it's going to be the right type of for you
04:40:52.140
How do you know it's not going to be a beta that just, like, got a little bit more balls
04:40:59.140
Chad donated $100, 37-year-old combat veteran, Iraq, AFG.
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I've never known that men had such hardships to get women.
04:41:11.540
I've always been able to drop the hottest women, if for any reason, drama to my life.
04:41:17.100
I don't have an Insta, but rate me on FB Chad Ivey.
04:41:30.320
If, if women are the ones who determine that men should lead relationships, wouldn't that
04:41:37.720
Uh, you know, in Russia we say men is the head and women are the neck.
04:41:48.800
And, sorry, and if everyone wants men to lead, is it any wonder why most leadership positions
04:42:00.760
Basically, how can men lead by, if it's by women's terms?
04:42:05.240
I think there should be like a give and take, right?
04:42:08.020
Like, uh, like for example, the submission, right?
04:42:10.500
I personally believe that both partners should be submitting both to each other, to their relationship,
04:42:16.120
to, you know, growing and getting better together.
04:42:18.420
So, uh, no, I don't think that it should be, um...
04:42:22.700
And did you want to answer that second, that last part?
04:42:24.940
Just basically, if everyone thinks that men should, you know, lead relationships, is it any wonder
04:42:30.320
why men also tend to be in a lot of leadership positions just in society?
04:42:38.060
There's a lot of, I feel like, arguments that we don't have time to go into, like, biologically,
04:42:41.900
like why women might choose to not take certain leadership positions, you know, or why men would,
04:42:48.680
Uh, but, yeah, absolutely, it's, it correlates, but I also, as I said, I do think women should step up,
04:42:55.420
especially when it comes to choosing the men that they want.
04:43:03.120
We're good on, oh, okay, I'll read this really quick.
04:43:05.640
Puffy Vegas, 50, I'm gonna rate every girl, 8, 6, 7, 6, 6, 7, 5, 7, 7.
04:43:18.420
Puffy Vegas, thank you for the, uh, what is your, what is going on in your profile photo?
04:43:30.240
And I think we're good here with, uh, Streamlabs, too.
04:43:40.760
Uh, let me shout out the Twitch people, then we're gonna wrap here, and then I'm gonna rate, we're gonna rate someone on Twitch, I guess.
04:43:48.420
Yeah, oh my god, Faith, thank you for the, uh, raid, uh, appreciate it, I know it was a while ago, I know most people on Twitch are, like, shouting it out as soon as they get a raid, but we're just doing it a little differently since we're primarily on YouTube.
04:44:06.280
Fura, fur, man, I don't know, think for the prime.
04:44:20.160
Uh, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever, drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub on your way out of the live stream tonight.
04:44:27.940
Uh, like I said, if you have Amazon Prime, you link it to your Twitch, quick, free, easy way to support the show every single month.
04:44:34.800
Thank you, everyone, for the super chats and donations.
04:44:37.360
Um, and I, I'm trying to think, are we going to, one last video, do we do a tape video?
04:44:44.240
We could do a tape video, let's do a tape video and then we'll wrap.
04:44:46.900
Um, anyone, anyone else, final thoughts, last chance, speak now?
04:45:01.040
I haven't eaten a drop of ketchup since I was like three years old.
04:45:03.460
All the more reason to do it right now when you're live in front of, like, 5,000 people.
04:45:23.620
I don't know, I'm not going to hand swipe that to do that, but.
04:45:29.560
Can, can you pass the ketchup packet over here, Kelly?
04:45:33.940
Yeah, so, uh, here's the ketchup packet, Heinz, tomato ketchup.
04:45:43.400
So, guys, it's, I guess, a slightly healthier version of the.
04:45:47.600
Giselle, do you just want to do, like, a two-for-two thing, or what's that?
04:45:56.140
How much will you, I guess you're bidding for lower, I guess.
04:46:07.340
No, I wanted to say, maybe you just need to tell her to do it, and then she'll do it.
04:46:25.240
Well, Eric, can you, let me actually look at the tape videos that we have available to us,
04:46:29.700
and then we'll watch a video, two minutes, get your reaction, then we're going to wrap.
04:46:42.800
Okay, we could talk about, we didn't really talk about that.
04:47:11.880
Do you want to just start munching on some cake, do you?
04:47:21.320
Whatever podcast is going to have a spinoff, Giselle muckbanks.
04:47:41.280
100 bucks in my pocket for you to consume this ketchup packet.
04:47:57.540
But that's almost why, like, Giselle already had one.
04:47:59.820
You have not eaten ketchup since you were three.
04:48:04.020
That's like two decades, son, with zero ketchup.
04:48:08.140
Like, when I make my sandwich for my boyfriend, like, I can't even pour the ketchup on it.
04:48:18.040
I can just eat it so we can go to the next topic.
04:48:20.520
Well, but I'm kind of, like, kind of dug in with Kelly here because she hasn't had ketchup
04:48:41.580
I feel like my friends are going to, like, call me a pussy if I don't...
04:49:10.840
I'm going to, like, throw to you like a frisbee.
04:49:18.200
You chucked the ring box, like, all the way over her head.
04:49:25.000
I need a girl with, like, good fucking reflexes.
04:49:37.060
But, unfortunately, I'm not good with handling balls.
04:49:47.180
But wrestling, I can touch a man's body all over the place.
04:50:21.400
No, I'm like, I mean, I'm being a bit facetious.
04:50:23.880
But is this, am I abusing the chat a little bit?
04:50:30.360
Otherwise, Zenya's going to fucking rip it out of your hands.
04:50:36.420
It's like 12 p.m. and we've been here for six hours.
04:51:05.840
No, I feel like this is the easiest thing to do.
04:51:34.640
Yeah, let me read this and we're going to wrap it up.
04:51:42.980
Giselle, how would be the best way to interact with you?
04:51:44.940
I would like to get to know you, even if it is just as a friend.
04:51:56.940
I mean, I will be at TwitchCon, so if you approach and say hello, I will say hello back.
04:52:19.920
And also, too, I worry if I'm too submissive, will he not respect me?
04:52:36.880
So many women say to me, you're so, Andrew, you know what?
04:52:39.340
You're so rich, but you're smart, and you're actually very intelligent, and I know you'd
04:52:43.840
And I'm sitting there thinking, bitch, I wish to God you were a robot.
04:53:16.260
There's, I'm never going to look at a beautiful woman who does everything I say and go, you
04:53:29.540
I think generally the concept I would tend to agree, the concept I would agree with, but
04:53:35.360
overall, no, because if he genuinely just wanted to F a robot, he could purchase a robot.
04:53:47.120
Like, Kiki's a nice, beautiful, blue-haired bitch.
04:53:57.820
I mean, if someone likes to be a robot, then I think it's their choice.
04:54:07.480
I think there's something scary about being, like, wanting to, like, any of your humans
04:54:17.560
I don't think he's literally saying he wants his wife to act like a robot.
04:54:22.800
I think he's just saying, like, that's just how, like, if you're continuously giving your
04:54:28.040
man what he wants, then that's a continuous thing.
04:54:30.180
Like, a robot is going to continuously do the same thing.
04:54:33.040
So, I don't think that's unfair of him to ask for, I don't think it's unfair of a man to
04:54:37.340
ask for his woman to listen to him all the time.
04:54:40.100
I mean, I think he just wants a really submissive woman that doesn't really challenge him and
04:54:46.740
Well, we're not supposed to challenge, that's not what a purpose of a woman is supposed to
04:54:58.380
Wouldn't you say people grow when they're being challenged?
04:55:02.140
When we, when I say challenge, I mean nobody wants, no man wants a girl who's going to
04:55:09.220
No guy, no guy wants a girl who, if he's, like, just picking at every little thing he
04:55:14.260
does, or is like, oh, you can't do this for me, why?
04:55:17.680
Like, no man wants to have, always have to deal with that.
04:55:20.340
I ask, why should men believe that women will submit in a relationship when they can't
04:55:26.820
They, if they, if a woman can't just shut up and say okay, then they're,
04:55:34.300
Like, if you can't listen to your man and simply say okay, and be okay with that, and
04:55:39.440
that's it, that's the end of the argument, then, you know, I don't think you can be with
04:55:44.220
But we hear the expression, you know, the need to be right.
04:55:47.540
No, there is, in a relationship there is no need to be right.
04:55:50.040
It's if you're, if you're in a relationship with someone, you don't work things, that's
04:55:54.620
You're two people, you're two people working into one relationship.
04:55:58.740
And I would also add that in the relationship, right and wrong is when you are not being
04:56:04.700
So, like, whatever, like, right depends and wrong depends.
04:56:09.060
As long as you are being, like, on the same page, you are understanding each other.
04:56:13.400
Well, don't we have the, don't we have the expression being the bigger man?
04:56:16.120
Aren't men more likely to concede even if they're not wrong?
04:56:18.280
So, when you say being the bigger man, do you mean, like, a woman's just, like, like,
04:56:24.840
just saying, like, just dealing with what her man has to say and saying, like, okay?
04:56:28.980
Well, I'm saying that, you know, men will often...
04:56:34.000
Well, I think it works a lot, it works very well in a woman's favor to just shut up and
04:56:39.460
just be, like, okay, like, you know, just to be submissive.
04:56:42.400
It works very, very well because it's going to make the man want to do things for you more
04:56:47.600
because it's, like, if you're giving the man everything he wants, why wouldn't he do
04:56:55.300
You, we have, women have power in their femininity and we, you get more power for being more
04:57:00.700
You get more power for being more nurturing, more caring, more, more sweet.
04:57:04.140
You, if you're bickering with your man all the time, why is he going to want to be,
04:57:11.640
Yo, can we get some W's in the chat for Kelly over here?
04:57:17.600
She fucking downed, that's her first catch-up in two decades and she's pissed.
04:57:27.100
But she doesn't post her boyfriend on Instagram, so it's kind of like, you know, but, you know.
04:57:38.460
I really don't mind doing whatever my man wants me to do as long as I'm being taken care of.
04:57:50.520
Like, I feel like we can work together because that's what it's about.
04:57:53.480
If I do choose to be in a relationship, can he show me that he want to take care of me?
04:57:58.840
Can I show him that I want to take care of him?
04:58:12.000
I don't really have any issues with what he said in the video.
04:58:18.960
I mean, comparing it to a robot is a bit silly, but I think he was trying to exaggerate how
04:58:37.460
He could have worded a bit better, but I think what he's saying is accurate, yes.
04:58:41.140
I think just one thing on this that occurred to me is, you know, I think with feminism
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and kind of the modern view on things, men are in a bit of a tough spot when it comes
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to leading and being dominant and women following and being submissive.
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You know, how often do you see girls on dating apps?
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For example, I don't know if you're on any dating apps, but you frequently say, at least
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I frequently see women saying they want a guy who's decisive, they want a guy who plans
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the date, sets the date, sets the time, meet me here at this time, pick me up, all this
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A lot of girls will say, I don't know where I want to eat.
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They want a guy to make these sorts of decisions.
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However, I think women, some women are struggling with this, like, when it comes to feminism
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and being told, like, basically, what's the term?
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Basically being told, hey, you're a strong, independent woman.
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But I think biologically, women want men to lead.
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But I think in today's society, I'm starting to repeat myself.
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Because it's like, a lot of women want men to lead, but they don't want to follow.
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Have you ever heard of a notion of a brat in BDSM?
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Well, in the question, like, the question you were asking, think of a brat.
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Most people are not, like, don't play with BDSM, so, like...
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Okay, so it is in the context of BDSM, but it actually describes...
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Okay, within the context of BDSM, I don't like brats.
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But it describes, like, something psychological.
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Like, you can take it outside of the sexual connotation alone.
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So, basically, what it talks about is, like, women, specifically, mostly, that do want a man they could follow, but they don't want that man to...
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They want the man to fight, because how do we check that they're a strong leader otherwise, you know what I mean?
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So, if, like, I want my man to be dominant, but I don't want to just submit.
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I would want him to make me submit, so that I understand that I can, like, this is the type of dominant man.
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I think we're talking about the concept of conditional femininity, where a woman wants a man to come along, and if he's the right man, he, you know, exhibits his dominance, and then he'll magically unlock her femininity, you know?
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And then she could fall at ease into her feminine traits, basically.
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Big shout-out to the raw dogs heading to Cambodia next week, the three amigos.
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I personally married a virgin 26 lady, and best thing I ever had.
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I don't know, I'm not sure, the Cambodian thing next week, the three amigos.
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Final thing, if you guys want to continue, and then we're going to wrap.
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Oh, just the idea of just conditional femininity.
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Basically, the idea that the man's masculine role is static, the woman's feminine role is conditional, where if the right man comes along, basically, you know, man can't say, okay, I dress in women's clothing, and all of a sudden, one day when the right woman comes along, I'll unlock my masculinity, and I'll exhibit that for you.
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But women, it's almost like I asked this question, why is it when a woman doesn't have a man, she often has to take on a masculine role, but when a man doesn't have a woman, he doesn't necessarily have to take on a feminine role?
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I would argue because in the society, the masculine traits are the ones that get you further in a lot of things.
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So men don't need the need to have that versus women if they want to be alone in the society.
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So wouldn't that mean that masculinity is more essential for survival than femininity?
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I'm not saying you did, but why is our society...
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I mean, we're getting conflicting messages in our society because we want men to be...
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You know, women want men to be like these hyper-masculine alpha males now, but then also masculinity is toxic.
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I think you and I should get some time and have more conversations because I would love your questions.
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I would love to answer all of them, but I feel like we're making everybody, you know, irritated.
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For those of you on Twitch, I'm going to send you here shortly after I get through a little bit of this outro to...
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I know normally we don't do e-girls, but a couple people aren't on.
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I'm going to send you to a streamer called Jenna Earth.
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Go say what's up to her and then tell her she should come be on the panel.
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You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
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Thank you to everyone who super chats and supports the show.
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You know, YouTube is kind of making moves against some of this, you know, a bit more...
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I don't know how you would categorize us, but, you know, YouTube's pretty woke.
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I know we had a long show tonight, so appreciate your patience.
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Thank you to everyone who's helping out with the show.
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Oh, any women who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
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Guys, we will be live again Sunday at 7 p.m. Pacific with an insane panel.
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I mean, I have a really good lineup for the entire month of May.
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Pretty much really a solid guest almost every single show.
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So, be sure you tune in Sunday, 7 p.m. Pacific.
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For those of you on Twitch, I'm going to send you over to Jenner or say what's up to her.
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And if you can let her know, she should come on the whatever podcast.
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Going to send you over there in three, two, one.
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For those of you still here on YouTube or on Twitch, thanks again for tuning in.