Dating Talk #9
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2 hours and 18 minutes
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180.50621
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Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have our first guest on the show, Kylie! She is a 20-year-old entrepreneur, lifeguard, and only fan. Kylie joins us to talk about her love of only fans, her struggles with anxiety and depression, and how she got over it.
Transcript
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It's unfortunate that it took us that long to catch it.
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We're coming to you live from Isla Vista, Santa Barbara County, California, every Tuesday
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I am your host, Brian Atlas, joined by my co-host, Kiki.
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So, without further ado, we're going to have the...
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So, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So, please, tell us your name, age, occupation, or school major if you're in school, and current relationship status.
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It's a little abrupt to be like, yeah, yeah, selfie pics on the internet.
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Yeah, but an enthusiast could just be someone who...
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I have an OnlyFans, and it is linked in the description, so...
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Um, I am switching into biopsych, and I am currently in a relationship.
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Um, my name is Priscilla, and I'm a massage therapist, and I'm...
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I'm going back to my school at Santa Barbara City College.
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And as you guys can tell, if you've seen our previous shows, we've kind of switched things
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We might switch it up to quads, so we might do 4v4, but, uh, yeah.
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So, also, I'm going to have us go around the table once again, if you wish, tell us
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political orientation, if you identify as a queen, and I guess kings for this side of
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Well, you've heard people refer to themselves as queen.
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I would say I'm more Democrat than Republican, but it doesn't really matter to me.
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I wouldn't necessarily consider myself a Yas queen, but just a normal queen, I guess.
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I'm not overbearing feminist, but I support women's rights.
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I think I'm more libertarian, and I think I would probably be a king, not because I'm a
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Well, and then I'm, I don't think, I'm not huge on feminism, but I love where feminism
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has taken us, but I don't, I think that sometimes it could be too much, because I'd like men to
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start opening doors again, and lifting heavy things.
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I'm not an activist, but I definitely stand for women's rights.
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Oh, I consider myself a queen, I guess, but I'm not sure.
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Um, I'm not too really, like, crazy on politics, it's kind of just, like, either way, so, um,
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and then as far as, like, king or queen, I don't really, I don't really identify as either,
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I guess I could be king, if you want to say that, but, um, and then as far as feminism,
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I mean, for me, it's, it's kind of, I don't, I'm not too big on it, you know, do whatever
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But, so, I want to start off with an easy question for the show.
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Uh, what is your worst first date or dating experience that you've had?
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I hate to interrupt, but did you answer the question?
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Well, they already know, they already know about me, so.
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Um, I do not consider myself a queen or a king.
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Uh, I think anyone who does, at best, they're a court jester.
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Um, uh, political orientation, probably center, center-left.
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I haven't had any horrific first dates, but the one that stands out to me is he took me
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Like, it was my favorite belt, and I, I, like, took it off because they were, like,
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really tight on my jeans because, like, we went back.
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He was like, oh, like, let me show you my place.
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And we didn't end up doing anything because, uh, because we were at Olive Garden.
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I had to, like, loosen the jeans a little bit, you know, and I took off my belt.
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Like, well, no, but he, like, sent me a picture that was like, yeah, I have your belt, and
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So, a mutual friend of a friend, so I knew he wasn't creepy.
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So, I was invited to go swimming at this guy's place, and I knew he wasn't creepy because
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I had a friend that knew him, so I decided to go.
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And, basically, he told me to just let him know when I got there.
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And so, I told him when I got there, and then he's like, hey, I'm already in the pool.
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Like, and then, um, so I go back, and he's already in the pool.
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Like, he didn't come and forget me or anything.
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Oh, I thought you were going to say he was, like, naked or in the pool.
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It was just, like, a series of little tiny things.
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If you're already in the pool, that's not weird?
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It was, like, the first week, and I had just moved into Beach City in Santa Barbara.
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And this guy asked me to go to the beach, and I was, like, down.
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And then we went to the beach, and we both were, like, tanning or whatever.
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And I guess I, like, fell asleep for a quick second.
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And I woke up, and, like, my bathing suit was, like, cut.
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Yeah, like, he was, like, do you want to go to the beach?
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Like, we were both, we both just freshly moved here.
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And he was, like, would you want to go to the beach with me?
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That's probably, like, the weirdest date, I guess.
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I don't really have many weird date stories, because a lot of my dates have been really,
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like, generic, like, drive-in movies and dinner.
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And then wrapped my towel and just walked back to my place.
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So, it's just, I don't know, it was really weird.
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Like, I just woke up and next thing, like, my bathing suit was cut.
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He cut a whole bathing suit without you noticing.
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It's a bad date if you're sleeping on a fucking bed.
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It was one of those dates where it was, like, there was no conversation to be had.
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It was just kind of, like, it was really boring.
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What, what was, uh, worst first date or worst, uh, dating experience that you had?
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Um, I mean, I feel like as, as being the guy, you have to kind of lead the, you know, lead
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I mean, I, I guess the only weird ones, I guess you would say, would be, like, there
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was a girl that I wanted a date with, and she was so, like, boring and plain that I literally
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dropped her off within, like, 15 minutes of the date.
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No, literally, I mean, you gotta be, like, time's, time's expensive, you know?
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Like, you get paid for your time, and if someone's just being boring, it wastes your time, you
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And, like, they're not even, like, you're not even trying to get in their pants.
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It's just, like, just conversating, as simple as that.
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And if they're being boring, just, like, I gotta go.
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She was just, what, what was she, how was she boring?
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I just picked her up, and, like, I just, it was dead-end questions.
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I'd ask questions, you know, try to get someone, try to get to know, you know, like, things
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about her, and then it's just, like, no conversation.
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I actually have something really important to do right now.
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I stopped the date within three minutes, so that's not that bad.
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Like, I was, like, I don't feel the, I don't feel the romantic feeling.
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If we were in a movie, we would be in a different movie.
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Just because I'm curious, I want to ask the girls.
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What is the click, the vibe, the chemistry, the lightning, the thunder, the butterflies?
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I mean, it's really hard to describe because, as you said, it's just, like, a feeling.
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Like, when you see someone, it's just, like, little butterflies in your stomach or you're
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just, like, super excited or nervous to talk to them.
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Just, like, a man's penis is directly, it's psychological.
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Anything that a man, like, for a man to get horny, he has to think about it.
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So, in order for blood to rush, in order for blood to rush to a man's penis, there has
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It's not like I'm walking out in public, I see someone, like, attracted, and I'm like,
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I mean, yeah, it's like, for me, it's like, if you're nervous to talk to them, I, there's
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no really, like, there's no way to describe that feeling, I guess.
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I guess, like, I know it's when, like, if I were to go and hang out with them and I actually
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get nervous to go, or I find myself, like, trying to get ready, whereas, like, if I'm
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really not interested, it's just like, eh, whatever.
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Do any of the guys on this side of the table want to take a crack at trying to articulate
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what the vibe, or chemistry, or spark, click, whatever it is, what that is, and if it's
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necessary for you to have that, to be interested in a girl?
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Like, looking to date, or be in a relationship with?
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Yeah, okay, well, I guess, for me, I haven't really been in many relationships, but, like,
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I guess it's, you know, having a good time, like, just like you would with one of your
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good friends, you know, like, if you guys are just having a blast, not something that
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really feels forced, it's kind of just, like, normal, you know, you guys are just chatting
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it up, you know, having fun, you know, then that would be, that would be what I would
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say is, like, you know, something that I would look for, but.
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Well, hey, well, basically just, like, what explains it?
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What, what is the vibe, clicking, chemistry, lightning, thunder, you know, butterflies,
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whatever it is that, these mystical terms that are used to describe it?
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I mean, I think it's different if you're just trying to, like, hook up compared to, like,
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Because if you're just trying to hook up, same with girls, I feel like it's, you could
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But if you actually like someone, it's a little different.
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I put the vibe, the chemistry, clicking in the same, I describe it in the same sense as
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love at first sight or in the same category as love at first sight and astrology.
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I thought you were saying you believe in love at first sight.
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So, you often hear, I didn't feel the chemistry or I didn't feel the vibe.
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And I think, essentially, when a girl says that, like, what she's trying to communicate
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is that the guy is just, is not attractive, basically.
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And I think the vibe or feeling sparks is actually something that women feel when the
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guy is actually, let's say, a few, is more attractive than she is.
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That's my sense of what sparks the vibe, the chemistry is.
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It's, it's when the guy is more attractive than her by a, by one or two points, let's
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I've definitely seen, like, some, some dudes that are for sure, like, have a girl that's
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Like, honestly, personality actually does go a long way.
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Yeah, because I'm like, dude, like, how, like, there are some dudes, I'm like, dang, he
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Yeah, I don't know, but it can go either way, I guess.
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Well, I mean, we can go around the table on this.
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So, uh, what percent, and we're going to ask the girls this.
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So what percentage of men that you see on dating apps do you find attractive and that
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What, like on a day-to-day basis when you're walking around?
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If you're at, if you're at a club or a party or just walking around the street, what
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And you're like, maybe let's say of the men within your age cohort that you date, because
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certainly if you see a 60 year old, you're not going to find him attractive.
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Well, I shouldn't, I shouldn't speak, but of the men that you see that you suspect are
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within your age cohort, what percentage of them do you find attractive?
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I don't really, I'm really oblivious when I'm walking places.
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I don't really look, I'm usually focused on where I'm going, but if I do see somebody
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Like, like someone that catches your eyes specifically because they're attractive.
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No, just that you would say that you find them attractive.
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They don't have to be a supermodel or anything.
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Like when I talk to them, you know what I mean?
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Because a lot of people, you look at them, you're like, yeah, you know, like they're fine.
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And then you talk to them and you're like, okay, like I could see it.
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It's like, he was saying like that guy definitely has a personality based on like hookups.
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If you're looking at just like the outside, I feel like that's, if you're in like a, I
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But once you start talking to them, it might be different as well.
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They might become more attractive or less because I've dated, I've talked to somebody
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who was really attractive, but they said some really dumb things.
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Not who are, no, it was back before I moved here and he just said something one time that
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It was just, it's just something that came like out of his fucking ass.
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I feel like girls focus a lot more on personality than guys.
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I feel like guys, some guys, most guys, I guess, would be fine with just a girl that
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has, you know, like nothing, nothing in the head.
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I definitely am not like that, but I know, I know a lot of my friends who would just be
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So then like what percentage of girls walking around with you guys find attractive?
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Oh, but so before, before you were dating your girl, I, I, I have a dark past.
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Do you want his girlfriend to bust in here right now?
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I guess I just, I didn't really, um, wasn't interested in relationships for a while.
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So then I kind of just, you know, was having, went on the tear.
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I mean, I was, I'm not like someone who has like low standards either, but like, it's
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just, I wanted on the tear, I guess that's a good way to put it.
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That, I mean, it certainly could be higher and you're 21.
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Um, it's not that high, but I don't really want to say it.
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How about, it's probably between like 10 and 15.
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Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
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On a first date, should the guy pay, or do you each pay your own bill?
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Well, people always say, like, it depends who asked whom on the date, you know?
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Yeah, if I order my own big-ass entree, like, I'll pay for that shit.
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Definitely the man, because it's about supply and demand, and men want sex more than women
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So, if I'm going to waste my time to go out with someone, it's going to be him paying.
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And I want to know that he's putting in an investment, because if I'm dating, it's serious.
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So, I want to know that he's willing to invest a little bit.
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And that I'm, like, if he's taking women out all the time, then maybe he can't afford
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But if he's just interested in me and wants to take me out, then he'll take me out.
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And so, I bought myself a small pizza, and he ate, like, half of it.
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I feel like it depends if, you know, how, what we're looking for.
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If he's looking to actually take me out and invest, then, yeah, definitely maybe he should
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But I'm always down to split, or I've said it before, if he can't afford it, and, you
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know, he comes up short or something, like, sure, I guess I'll pay, but definitely split.
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So, if the guy asks you on the first date, it's still split.
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So, if he asks me out, then, I mean, I would hope that he would pay asking me out, but,
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I just said she would expect him to pay if he asked her out.
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But, so, yeah, so on the first date, should the guy pay, or do you each pay your own bill?
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So, I mean, I think if, like, it's a relationship, and you guys have been seeing each other for
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a while, like, if she offers a split, it's like, okay, cool.
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Yeah, it's like, yeah, I'll pay, or you'll pay this time.
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But, I mean, if I'm asking a girl on a date, and it's like, I've never, like, gone on a date
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with her, I'd take her out and pay, yeah, for sure.
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So, I'll actually let Tristan, why don't you go ahead?
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For me, if I ask her out, you know, I'm definitely paying.
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Like, if a guy doesn't pay for you, you know, like, if they ask you out, most likely they're
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Like, but, I also think that girls shouldn't expect, like, I'm sorry, I disagree, Priscilla,
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but, um, I don't think they should expect, like, every time for the guy to pay.
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I think it's like, there's always this argument about equal.
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Because you don't know the guy, and mostly men do only want sex.
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Like, not all guys, I mean, you could say that.
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Like, I think, like, 100% of the dates that I go on, they try to have sex.
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I was trying to, I was trying to take that back.
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Like, women should be able to have sex as often as they want, because.
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Women should be able to have sex as often as they want, because everybody loves sex, so.
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Yeah, what I was trying to say, though, is girls shouldn't expect it.
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You know, they always talk about equality, and, you know, and that also comes to, you
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They shouldn't expect it, but yeah, the guy, you know, as a man in the relationship has,
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you know, also a way to, I don't know, show that they're trying to treat the girl right.
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So, paying is a good sign, but they shouldn't be expected.
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Like, I'm glad that my girlfriend isn't always like, oh, you have to pay for everything,
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Of the times that you've met a new girl or you're, you know, going on a first date with
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a new girl, were you the one that asked, or did the girl ask for the first date?
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Are you saying, like, who asked who on the date?
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Yeah, of, of most of the dates that you've been on.
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Have you ever been asked out on a first date by a girl?
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I mean, if a girl really wants you, she'll, she'll go ask you to go do something.
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So, I'm going to give my take on who should, who should pay.
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I have a bit of a controversial one because I don't think, I think a lot of guys will disagree
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A lot of women will disagree with me on this one, too.
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And I've got four reasons, and I've written them down here.
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So, and I got four reasons why I believe you should each pay your own bill.
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So, men are the ones that are overwhelmingly, that overwhelmingly have to initiate everything.
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So, if your take is, whoever asks should pay, well, that ignores the fact that 99% of the
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time for a first date, it's going to be the man that asks.
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So, effectively, your answer to the question, who should pay, is men.
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If men and women asked each other out at similar rates, then, I mean, whoever asks should pay
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But the fact of the matter is, is that most women do not ask out men.
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So, and men, we don't have the privilege of just waiting around to be approached to be
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A lot of women will go on dates without having a genuine interest in the guy, just for a free
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So, this is one of the reasons I don't even do food dates.
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Food dates are terrible for a few different reasons.
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So, gone are the days of dating one person at a time.
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Like, if you're on a date with a girl, you have to assume that she's entertaining a bunch
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So, that means that the probability of your date working out is much lower than it otherwise
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So, I'm going to get into the fourth reason, which is related.
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So, the fourth reason is the dating meta is such that you have to assume that a girl you're
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going on a date with is sleeping with at least, at least one other guy.
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I mean, don't be surprised if it's like three or four.
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So, I mean, my simple take is you don't spend money on women who are fucking other men.
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It's not all women, but a lot are fucking around.
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And honestly, like, it's much easier for women to get laid.
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That's what I was talking about with supply and demand.
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But, like, even average women are entertaining multiple options.
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If a girl is fucking somebody else, I'm going to feel a certain type of way if I'm paying
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So, because, because that's me adhering to my traditional gender roles, but y'all not
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Like, you say that she's not allowed to fuck other men, but you're like, if I'm paying for
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her, she's not allowed to, but would you still be allowed to fuck other women?
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I'm just saying, in your head, would you feel like it was okay if you had your roster?
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If you had your, like, color-coded dick appointment?
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I mean, if, I'm, typically, I'm not seeing multiple girls at the same time.
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Sometimes it happens, you know, from time to time.
00:40:42.380
But, I mean, going in on a first date, I mean, there's no, there's obviously, I don't have
00:40:49.240
an expectation a girl is going to be loyal to me.
00:40:52.060
I'm not like, oh, first date, you can't be talking to other guys.
00:40:56.180
But, given that, you know, the way things are, if you have, like I said, you have to assume
00:41:04.760
that they're probably talking to somebody else, they're sleeping with somebody else.
00:41:07.600
So, if I'm just going to make the assumption that they're talking to someone else, sleeping
00:41:11.420
with somebody else, and under those circumstances, I'm not going to pay on the first date.
00:41:21.220
So, also, just last thing on this, it's a pretty big L as a guy.
00:41:28.740
If you take a girl out on a date, and you pay for her stuff, she gets a doggy bag to
00:41:37.240
go, she gives you an ass out hug, a side hug, you know, one of those ass out side hugs.
00:41:44.720
She leaves, maybe gives you a kiss on the cheek, and immediately after, she goes to another
00:41:51.720
dude's house, and gives him the food in which you paid for, and then fucks him.
00:41:57.120
Well, how many times does that happen to you, brother?
00:42:04.480
He's like, and then she goes to his house and fucks him.
00:42:07.740
This, no, this, this for sure happens to guys all the fucking time.
00:42:19.480
They take a girl out to dinner, and then, oh, he's so nice, and then she goes to the guy
00:42:31.860
That's kind of like when you go to a bar, and a girl's with her boyfriend, and then a
00:42:34.620
guy buys her a drink, and she turns around and gives it to her boyfriend.
00:42:38.980
I mean, yeah, but that's just a scenario in which I would not want to find myself in.
00:42:48.340
I don't know if that's happened to me, but it's certainly something that I'm not going
00:43:01.200
If you guys want to respond or have anything you want to say.
00:43:03.980
I think you should take her to an expensive enough restaurant to where they don't allow
00:43:12.880
I mean, she's still going to go fuck another guy.
00:43:21.620
She's like, I'm not paying for that expensive shit.
00:43:24.940
That was kind of a monologue there, so I just want to open it up.
00:43:27.980
There's parts of it that I could see your side, and there's other parts where I'm like,
00:43:33.140
I've had a pretty good sense of the girl that I take to dates, and I can pick up if
00:43:39.920
a girl is just trying to get a foodie day out of me, because if I got the vibe that that's
00:43:48.080
The thing is, I wouldn't even take that girl out.
00:43:50.640
If I'm taking a girl out, most likely I know kind of the person they are, and if I'm getting
00:43:56.100
the vibe that they're trying to do that to me, no way.
00:44:08.000
There's definitely girls, but they can definitely not even get a chance to even go on a date.
00:44:16.100
If I get the feeling that they're that type of girl, I'm not even asking that type of
00:44:20.720
The girls that I've asked out are a very specific type, and I kind of get a feeling
00:44:35.120
It's honestly, I don't agree with all of it, but I definitely disagree on certain points
00:44:42.560
because for your first point, I ask out more guys, or I have asked out more guys than I've
00:45:03.560
My roommate is currently waiting for a text back, and I'm like, just fucking text him.
00:45:12.080
I'm always like, oh, do you want to go to this party?
00:45:15.260
Like, back when I was, like, openly pursuing people, like, I just, I get bored waiting for
00:45:25.140
No, that's the type of, like, I don't know, I guess, what girls should do, you know, is
00:45:30.660
just stop idling, waiting for the guy, you know.
00:45:32.820
If they get, they're so impatient, too, like, you know, when's he going to ask me out?
00:45:40.840
Women, like, women have the privilege of kind of just letting guys come to them, so, and
00:45:50.140
I think a lot of women will say, if he doesn't, if he's not the type of guy that would have
00:45:54.380
the confidence or the balls to make the move, he's not the type of guy for me anyways, so
00:45:58.800
they just, you know, women are inundated with options is the thing.
00:46:02.860
I mean, if you've ever seen a girl's Instagram DMs, if you've ever seen a girl's Tinder, like,
00:46:12.460
Okay, so we're going to do a couple super chats here, because we've got quite a few here
00:46:15.540
in it, quite a few from our good friend, Mr. Mike Davis here.
00:46:31.460
You brought these soy boys on, and we're already having issues, I think he was talking about
00:46:35.840
with the audio, audio issues, do you guys have anything to say back to Mike Davis, he
00:46:44.780
Oh, you know what, I think he's mean like soy boys.
00:47:07.640
But the funny thing is, you're watching us, so.
00:47:20.440
I felt bad at first, but this chick in the mill is about to unleash some heavy roasts from
00:47:45.940
Mike Davis is pretty much funding this entire podcast.
00:47:57.140
When Tristan says dark times, he's referring to dark times in the closet.
00:48:00.620
If you catch my drift, when he says this girl, he means his beard.
00:48:08.580
By the way, Mike Davis is our resident roaster.
00:48:18.440
No, Tristan's girlfriend actually appeared in a previous episode.
00:48:31.360
So, um, I mean, maybe it's, I assume it's legitimate.
00:48:36.280
So I'm, I'm pretty sure it's a legitimate relationship.
00:48:48.180
We got, uh, yo, thank you for the super sticker, man.
00:48:58.820
She must be confusing her massage clients with dates.
00:49:05.880
While, while we're, uh, Priscilla, while we're on the topic, um, has a, have any of your clients
00:49:18.800
No, but one of my clients did show me his butthole.
00:49:43.080
I look over and he's just sort of like propped up on his knees with his, his asshole gaping.
00:50:35.020
Last time it was purple hair and now it's the masseuse.
00:50:43.240
Her, by the way, um, her Instagram is in the description if you guys want a massage.
00:51:08.800
People should be talking over each other and be really comfortable and vibed.
00:51:32.620
I'm not an expert on it because I was in a relationship.
00:51:35.820
I literally just went, I guess, a couple weeks ago, and I guess, but I can see how it happens,
00:51:41.120
though, because people will take Molly at these raves, and it's very common, you know, that's,
00:51:45.180
people go to raves, and most likely they're rolling.
00:51:49.920
Like, they just want to hug people, and, like, they want affection, like, from other people.
00:51:54.300
So, it's honestly, like, if a girl's rolling, you're rolling, like, you might just link with someone random there that's also rolling.
00:52:04.280
It's the weirdest thing, but it was pretty funny.
00:52:13.340
For being a member, not for the endorsement of a comment.
00:52:23.680
So, going back really quick to who should pay, my advice to men is do not participate in traditional courtship with non-traditional women,
00:52:34.640
and, newsflash, 90% of women are not traditional.
00:52:57.260
Like, getting to go on dates or, like, the entire dating process?
00:53:09.080
Then I would say women definitely have it easier.
00:53:13.820
And, especially if you're not a good-looking dude, you're not getting any attention.
00:53:18.700
I was telling Tristan, I was like, if we were to just have, like, one girl DM 50 guys and then one guy DM 50 guys and say, let's fuck,
00:53:36.600
You go, girls, like, if a guy just straight-up texts a girl, like, let's fuck, like, most likely you're still gonna get a no.
00:53:42.820
Maybe a couple yeses here and there after, like, 50 people.
00:53:45.640
But girls saying that, even if you're not a good-looking girl, you're getting a lot of yeses.
00:54:06.140
And I think Leo and you, I mean, you guys already kind of answered it.
00:54:17.320
So, if you can switch us over to window mode and maybe bring it back to, okay, well, while this is up, we'll react to it.
00:54:38.560
This is not at all related to dating, but I just thought it was interesting.
00:54:48.100
Bryce Dallas Howard says she was paid less than Chris Pratt for Jurassic World films.
00:54:53.020
This has absolutely nothing to do with dating, but I just wanted to talk about it because it annoyed me.
00:55:00.180
But, so, this is basically just the wage gap myth.
00:55:09.660
It's basically, I guess, I don't know if I've seen the film.
00:55:17.240
So, I don't know if I've seen the film, but apparently this is his co-star.
00:55:25.800
I'm pretty sure Chris Pratt's the lead and she's a supporting, has a supporting role.
00:55:29.840
And she's complaining that she was paid less than Chris Pratt.
00:55:36.320
Do you have any idea who the fuck this lady is?
00:55:39.600
And do you know who Chris, and then, do you guys know who Chris Pratt is?
00:55:44.360
So, she's complaining that she's, that Chris Pratt, the lead, who has more star power than her, is getting paid more.
00:55:50.940
So, one in the chat, guys, if you have any idea who this woman is.
00:55:54.980
But, I want to just go around the table just really quick on this.
00:55:58.740
I know it's not really dating related, but it is related to the gender dynamics.
00:56:01.920
So, apparently she was paid less than Chris Pratt.
00:56:21.440
Well, I think it's justified because he is obviously a much bigger actor than she is.
00:56:27.080
Like, that's why he's paid more, because, like, his time is worth more, I would say.
00:56:32.900
Like, in the industry, in the Hollywood industry.
00:56:35.760
Because more famous people get paid more, because they need more incentive to be in a film.
00:56:48.140
Yeah, it's all about hours and stuff, because I know people who produce movies.
00:56:52.720
And the amount of times that the lead role usually has to be there, or hours that they
00:56:59.100
have to be there, and how many times that they have to retake versus, like, an extra or
00:57:08.540
I have no idea who these people are, so I don't know.
00:57:23.380
There's a lot of, like, men actors that are paid more than women, I get it.
00:57:28.680
But, like, in that aspect, it's like, why even have that as a headline?
00:57:32.260
They're running out of headlines, because Chris Pratt is Chris Pratt, you know, he's,
00:57:38.960
Like, you can't compare it to, what's her name?
00:57:43.420
Okay, I kind of know her, but, like, it's, like, it's not Chris Pratt.
00:57:52.620
Yeah, far more famous main character paid higher equals sexism.
00:58:00.580
I guess the whole wage thing, the wage war between women and men is, like, it's been going on for years.
00:58:06.760
And men have always been, you know, the workers, you know, as long as, I don't even know,
00:58:12.320
before when women were always expected to be at home taking care of the kids.
00:58:16.600
And then now, I guess we're bringing into, like, a new era.
00:58:18.800
It's just kind of, like, women are starting to work more, you know, obviously.
00:58:24.920
And it's just, like, women's wages are getting, you know, higher and higher.
00:58:28.400
But there's also the argument, like, there's a lot of jobs that guys can't do, that women can do, like, that they can't get a lot.
00:58:38.740
You can do OnlyFans and probably become, you know, pretty successful with and get a good amount of money.
00:58:43.760
If a guy opens up an OnlyFans, his percentage of getting, like, a good amount of money from him is a lot lower.
00:58:51.700
Yeah, let's talk about the gender wage gap in OnlyFans.
00:58:56.500
No, but, Chris, if you can just pull back up the window.
00:59:07.320
So, it's, I think it's just depending on the value you put out.
00:59:15.880
Oh, the star of the movie made more than the supporting actress.
00:59:19.460
It's just, like, what are you complaining about, lady?
00:59:22.140
If they, like, used her face for promotions instead of his, like, it wouldn't garner the same, like, audience turnout, you know?
00:59:29.440
Like, because you put Chris Pratt on a big movie poster, everyone's like, dude, I fucking love that guy.
00:59:34.220
Like, and he is, like, the face of that franchise now.
00:59:44.080
In the article, a bit down, she complained to Chris Pratt about this.
00:59:49.860
And he actually went to war for her to get her paid more.
01:00:07.760
Like, Chris Pratt's dad didn't get his son's career handed to him.
01:00:11.460
So, by the way, CNN, by the way, perpetuating the long-debunked wage gap myth and making an absolutely egregious argument for it.
01:00:21.000
Like, this is, if I wanted to steel man the wage gap argument for the other side, I mean, this is an absolutely terrible example.
01:00:33.620
When it comes to star power, star power has value.
01:00:43.740
So, Chris, in order to pull up the video, we're going to do, it's in the list here in OBS.
01:00:54.900
It's the Tate, the first one, the first Tate one.
01:01:38.340
Oh, hit the, hit the, wait, next, no, go back to where you were.
01:01:49.140
And also, too, I worry if I'm too submissive, will he not respect me?
01:02:01.000
So many women say to me, you're so, Andrew, you know what?
01:02:03.480
You're so rich, but you're smart, and you're actually very intelligent, and I know you'd
01:02:06.260
get really bored of, like, a robot, and I'm sitting there thinking, bitch, I wish to
01:02:40.680
I'm never going to look at a beautiful woman who does everything I say and go, you know
01:02:52.240
Bro, Andrew Tay has been growing on me recently.
01:02:55.060
He keeps coming up on my For You page and as much as I disagree with what he says, like
01:03:05.700
He always makes me laugh out loud every time I watch him now.
01:03:08.740
The content, I just cannot relate because I'm a very outgoing and assertive person.
01:03:16.880
I'm not submissive in the slightest, but at the same time, I kind of agree with what
01:03:22.720
he's saying and I understand where he's coming from with, like, being too submissive.
01:03:29.900
Like, every guy wants a girl that can, like, cook food and, like, shut up and have a fat
01:03:37.420
It doesn't matter, but that's just not who I am.
01:03:40.260
Yeah, but everyone can have their opinions about that.
01:03:44.080
Priscilla, your reaction, your reaction to the video?
01:03:55.280
If he wants a robot, he can probably buy a robot.
01:03:58.860
Well, I don't think he literally wants a robot.
01:04:08.320
So, if you're looking at it like, oh, this is what all men can do, it's not.
01:04:12.820
It's because he has a lot of money that can do that.
01:04:14.700
Yes, Andrew Tate is certainly a very exceptional individual.
01:04:22.120
Yeah, so if he was, like, some bum on the street that was like, I just want a robot.
01:04:28.620
If he was a bum on the street that's like, I just want her to shut up and I just want
01:04:32.280
a robot, then you'd probably just put him in prison.
01:04:37.200
The bum probably doesn't want that, but he just can't because he's a bum.
01:04:49.860
I mean, okay, so what was, what am I reacting to?
01:04:54.640
Like, what are you saying about rather having a submissive woman?
01:05:01.540
I mean, I feel like me and Kylie are kind of just at the same speed right now.
01:05:08.020
Doesn't mean I necessarily, like, agree with everything he says.
01:05:10.840
That video in particular, um, I mean, I don't necessarily agree with a guy having a girl
01:05:24.420
I think all of this stuff is just comedy at this point.
01:05:27.520
So, okay, you can acknowledge that it's funny, but in terms...
01:05:36.560
But in terms of what he's actually saying, do you take issue...
01:05:46.980
Would you say that you disagree with what he's saying?
01:05:53.160
Um, I mean, I don't agree and I don't disagree.
01:05:57.620
Like, I know some guys are very assertive and they would rather have a submissive woman.
01:06:02.420
And I know that guys who are very assertive should not have an assertive woman because
01:06:11.780
So, I mean, I think it depends on the guy and the girl.
01:06:18.080
Do you consider yourself to be an assertive woman?
01:06:21.300
I don't consider myself assertive or submissive.
01:06:31.400
I'll definitely, like, speak up for myself, but I'm also not, like, you sit down and shut
01:06:44.040
I think a girl is submissive to a guy she likes.
01:06:47.980
She's not going to be, like, trying to walk all over him if she wants him to be with her
01:06:57.640
I mean, honestly, I think, like, girls that are too submissive and does whatever the guy...
01:07:08.860
I guess if a girl is just too submissive and just does whatever, you know, the guy wants,
01:07:13.460
whatever the guy does, and it just kind of follows him like a puppy dog, it's kind of
01:07:24.420
You don't have to, like, lead them to do whatever, you know, their life.
01:07:32.300
Like, no, sorry, I actually have things to do today.
01:07:34.940
You know, like, unless they're just, like, sitting at home, it's kind of just boring,
01:07:39.140
But Andrew Tate, obviously, him having money, he can just...
01:07:42.840
If your girl wants a lifestyle where she can just, like, get paid by a dude, you know,
01:07:47.380
everything gets paid by Andrew Tate, they'll be submissive.
01:07:53.040
So basically just most guys, and I would agree with this, most guys cannot pull that off.
01:08:02.740
You gotta have some wealth or some very, you know, you're a very good-looking dude, you
01:08:08.800
Like you said, I don't think women care that much about looks.
01:08:18.940
You could actually make the argument that women care more about looks.
01:08:27.300
I care a fair amount about looks, but it's not, like, looks are out of the picture.
01:08:32.240
But the thing is, is that all of you, when I asked what percentage of men would you say
01:08:40.620
But you said walking on the street, not talking to them.
01:08:43.840
But I'm speaking just about physical attractiveness.
01:08:49.800
You didn't say what percentage of men would we want to date?
01:08:55.540
But what I'm saying is, is that, I mean, they've actually done studies on this.
01:08:59.500
So men actually rate women pretty much on the bell curve in terms of attractiveness.
01:09:03.400
So it's, like, I think they say, I think, I don't know.
01:09:08.080
I, I, we have the stats somewhere on the computer, but it's not necessary to pull it out, but...
01:09:14.920
Like, some men love curvy women, and some men love petite women.
01:09:19.320
Like, with all the porn there is out there, I know that people like all sorts of different
01:09:37.000
See, the thing is, like, a lot of girls will say that they care about mostly response, like,
01:09:42.340
their personality, they care mostly about, you know, what, like, their humor, but some
01:09:48.080
of them just say that, and they really do care about looks more than they say, you know?
01:10:04.580
But the people, I don't think it's just, like, an objective thing.
01:10:08.700
Like, I could say, oh, this person's attractive, this person's not attractive, and then you
01:10:16.520
Yeah, no, but what I mean is, you personally, you have to find the person attractive, like,
01:10:20.620
or else it's just kind of, like, why are you...
01:10:23.800
That's the thing, is I feel like you would be less likely to be attracted to someone who's,
01:10:29.380
Like, that's pretty much what we're saying, is, like...
01:10:33.700
Well, some people have different standards, like, some people...
01:10:38.800
No, some people like fat asses, some people like small boobs, some people like big boobs,
01:10:46.060
You're saying, like, someone you want to be with, not, like, just someone you want to
01:10:50.260
I've, okay, I've watched a show, though, where they date, basically, in cubicles, and
01:10:54.620
they can only talk for the first week, and then they finally meet each other, and I've
01:10:58.400
definitely seen some people grow an attraction for each other based off personality, but
01:11:11.920
You can bullshit all day and be like, I don't care about how the guy looks.
01:11:15.020
It's like, yeah, maybe there's some girls that really do not care at all.
01:11:20.980
If you get old, it's not even, don't even, don't even think about that.
01:11:23.500
That's not even, like, nobody can see in the future, but, like, you can bullshit all
01:11:26.240
day and be like, oh, I don't, like, I don't care about looks, but, yes, most women, most
01:11:33.040
So, then what happens, are you still going to love her when she gets old?
01:11:40.280
Yeah, she said money, humor, intelligence, money.
01:11:45.640
So, if he's butt-ass like he has those three, you're good?
01:11:51.480
But that means he has to have all three, right?
01:11:53.040
If he's ugly, but not if he's unhealthy, if not if he's fat, not if he doesn't eat well,
01:12:00.920
I think there are lazy people, poor people, and unhealthy people.
01:12:09.440
I think there are poor people, unhealthy people.
01:12:11.540
Do you think there's fat people and skinny people?
01:12:13.620
So, then you have to think there's ugly and skinny people.
01:12:15.640
So, some guys love fat, and some women love that, too.
01:12:22.060
I actually don't think that guys, I know there's chubby chasers, but...
01:12:28.260
But, like, if they had the choice, if they had the choice, I don't know.
01:12:35.240
Some people can also, like, I mean, I don't want to say you can't help being poor, but it's also sometimes a really hard...
01:12:42.720
Yeah, it's hard to come out of, but you can work.
01:12:44.860
It's hard to say that you could work on yourself in a way that's going to put you at an advantage.
01:12:57.280
No, matter of fact, though, like, if you are born with an ugly mug of a face, you are not changing it unless you get plastic surgery, like you said.
01:13:12.080
Like I'm saying, there are no ugly people, there are only poor people.
01:13:19.100
I'm saying if you have money, you can have a lifestyle coach.
01:13:26.360
So you're saying if you're poor, you're always going to be poor?
01:13:33.540
Okay, we're going to change it up just a little bit.
01:13:41.520
Is it harder to be physically attractive as a guy or as a girl?
01:13:53.620
No, it's way harder for women to be attractive than men.
01:13:58.780
Wait, like two other people are just, like, conventional?
01:14:07.360
Basically, it's, like, do guys have a better way?
01:14:15.220
It's, like, girls can wear makeup, so they can kind of mask whatever it is they are insecure about.
01:14:30.580
So, I think women are actually more picky physically.
01:14:37.760
Okay, so, generally, in terms of who is deemed as having a physically attractive body or physique,
01:14:44.600
so the body fat percentage range for women is actually wider than it is for men in terms of what is found physically attractive.
01:14:53.820
So, you have a woman who's just, could be thin, stick thin, she's still attractive, all the way to curvy, and I'm using that term very generously.
01:15:04.800
People have misappropriated the term curvy, let me just say that.
01:15:08.860
So, men will find a very big range in terms of body fat percentage attractive, but if you ask most women, like, ideal body for a guy...
01:15:21.240
They're going to look at a thin guy who has no muscular development and be like, nah, but they're also going to look if a guy...
01:15:28.360
There's also girls, like, if they're too muscular, like, you know, fucking the top tier bodybuilders.
01:15:34.780
Like, yeah, but, but like, but also, like, a guy who, a girl who's curvy, her male equivalent...
01:15:44.100
I think it's even, like, a girl who's curvy, her male equivalent is fat.
01:15:52.960
So, I mean, and I think for, as a guy, to be, to be deemed as having a physically attractive body, you need to have, you need to be fit, athletic, or muscular.
01:16:03.520
No, I completely agree with what you're saying.
01:16:05.040
So, and it's, whereas a woman can, the untrained woman body, most men will still deem her, her body attractive.
01:16:17.840
But, like, the same cannot be said for men, I think.
01:16:20.220
Like, the untrained male body is, like, if you're just a thin guy...
01:16:27.500
Like, you do not, no girl's going to be like, you're attractive.
01:16:33.940
Because, like, you can argue, yeah, there's some girls that like skinny guys, there's some guys that like dad bods.
01:16:38.600
We can do that all day, but the majority likes a masculine dude.
01:16:44.320
I just was not getting any type of, any type of girl, no.
01:16:48.780
And then, like, I completely saw a different change.
01:16:51.160
Like, once I started working on myself, you know, and like, and then that was just kind of the point where I realized, like, dang, like, you really have to be, like, at a certain, like, you know, window for a guy, for girls to start finding you, like, attractive, you know?
01:17:04.600
So, there's very few women that will find a skinny guy or a fat guy attractive.
01:17:23.280
But would you rather have, like, a muscular man over either?
01:17:27.760
No, it wasn't until recently that I was thinking about how, like, difficult it was for men who were, like, in the gym who were working out all the time because I always knew how women, like, held expectations for themselves.
01:17:40.480
And I was always, like, oh, it's, like, so much harder for women because we have all these unrealistic body types.
01:17:48.140
And it wasn't until recently when I was, like, talking about it with, like, a guy that really struggled with that.
01:17:55.440
And I was, like, wow, like, that's actually really hard for men also because you're always comparing yourselves to those, like, other huge guys that are probably on, like, testosterone.
01:18:08.440
Because I feel like most guys look at themselves and they're, like, damn, like, I'm too skinny.
01:18:20.040
Like, I need to be able to take care of myself.
01:18:23.400
So, I feel like it's definitely harder for a guy to be that attractive.
01:18:30.220
Like, a woman not need step foot into a gym to have an attractive body.
01:18:37.480
But, I mean, I guess a guy could be doing calisthenics at the fucking park or whatever.
01:18:42.700
But a guy, for a guy's body to be deemed attractive, like, he's going to have to have some muscle.
01:18:55.900
I mean, I guess through sports you can kind of put it on.
01:18:59.940
A girl could date, like, either a skinny or a fat guy if they want.
01:19:08.080
They can make you look like a different, complete person.
01:19:20.900
You can put one little baby wipe in a different person.
01:19:35.360
Because you can tell if they wear a lot of makeup.
01:19:36.940
But, anything more than some eyeshadow or eyeliner, mascara, that's, I'm disappointed.
01:19:53.760
Like, on the daily, if you're putting it just fucked on, it's like, okay, let's not do that.
01:20:00.640
No, if you hug her and her face comes off on your shirt, I think that's an issue.
01:20:05.020
Or, like, if she spends the night and, like, you see her face on the pillow.
01:20:12.040
Or, honestly, like, I don't like how it looks, but also if you're kissing a girl and it's,
01:20:21.440
So, if her shit is getting on my face, I'm going to break out.
01:20:24.840
It's just like, and it's like, I genuinely do not care.
01:20:29.120
Like, maybe there's some guys that want their girl all dolled up, but, like, I think most
01:20:39.240
Have you ever told a girl that you like the natural look or you like the no makeup look
01:20:43.400
and they say, well, actually, you know, we're still wearing makeup, but it's the, I'm like,
01:20:53.360
Nah, I mean, I'm disappointed in myself for even dating someone a while ago that, like,
01:20:58.260
wore that much makeup, you know, because it's just like, why did I do that?
01:21:01.980
Like, it's just not, it's about natural beauty.
01:21:05.720
Like, if you're trying to, like, become a different person with your makeup and then
01:21:08.540
you wipe that and then it's just like, you're not that attractive.
01:21:15.300
Don't try to be, don't, don't try to always put on a shit ton of makeup trying to look
01:21:26.560
You know, if you put on lip gloss, you're not a completely different person.
01:21:30.140
But if you put on, like, a whole face and you sit there and you, like, literally contour.
01:21:35.120
Like, contour and, like, sculpt your face in a different way.
01:21:37.500
You might be, I mean, if that's, like, your niche and if that's something that's making
01:21:42.020
you money, like, people on the internet doing it, then, you know, it's more power to them.
01:21:47.400
But, like, you know, it's not, like, needed most of the time.
01:21:54.640
Chris, why don't we do a couple of, we're going to do some chats really quick.
01:21:59.380
I'll pull them up if you want to just keep it on live just to observe if we get any coming
01:22:12.700
Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
01:22:18.440
I would also say, I think it depends on who's looking at me.
01:22:39.240
Yeah, I mean, personally, I would say I'm a six or a seven.
01:22:55.440
I'm not that tall, which I think would make me a lot more attractive.
01:22:57.700
Can you, just so we can see the face, can you just scoot your microphone a little bit?
01:23:02.660
Maybe, wait, turn it the other way and then scoot it.
01:23:23.860
If I was taller, I could maybe say eight and a half.
01:23:33.020
Yeah, that's why literally my friend commented on it and she was like.
01:23:37.240
I mean, my friend DMed me and was like, hey, you're not five nine.
01:23:48.660
So, and you said, so what did you, what was your answer to it again?
01:23:53.880
If I was taller, I'd say maybe nine, but like girls are so about height.
01:23:58.700
I guess most girls are like, oh my God, if he's five eight, he's short.
01:24:06.180
Let me just get through the super chats, but remind me if I forget to talk about height
01:24:26.580
And I'm, I've, I need to lose a little bit of weight.
01:24:29.200
I've gotten, gotten a little chubby, you know, so I'm working on it, trying to.
01:24:43.700
You know, so I'm, I got, I got another 15 to go, but, but I'm getting there.
01:24:51.300
Uh, we got the American network against labia place.
01:25:01.260
Any ladies out there, uh, that feel insecure, self-conscious don't guys love the labias.
01:25:10.060
I've heard that girls can get their labia waxed off.
01:25:20.520
Well, like if they try to go wax down there and they put the wax, you know, too close to,
01:25:30.500
That's just, yeah, no, that's why I would never, you know, even mess with waxing.
01:25:35.360
Not because I have a labia, but just anywhere down there would just sound like it is painful.
01:25:43.160
I've gotten a bikini wax before and it literally felt like I was on fire.
01:25:51.220
But yeah, this, this is my nonprofit organization, uh, American network against labia place.
01:26:01.420
I tried to get anal.org, but the guy wanted like 10k.
01:26:21.640
And if there's any women who I'm not going to lie, I'm a fan.
01:26:50.380
Honest thoughts on guys with no IG girls might individually.
01:26:54.740
But would a group of girls when together act like it's weird and laugh?
01:27:02.620
I think she's talking about if guys have no Instagram.
01:27:10.040
Um, I only think it's a little weird because I feel like everyone has social media and it's
01:27:18.220
And I know for a fact that like if, like most girls when they're talking to a new guy, they're
01:27:22.940
like, oh, I'm gonna like go through his Instagram.
01:27:24.420
Like, I'm just gonna look through all of his pictures real quick.
01:27:28.680
And if you don't have an Instagram, then it's kind of like, oh.
01:27:31.660
Like, it's just, it's just a little surprising.
01:27:37.600
So, it's not surprising when a guy around my age has no Instagram.
01:27:46.920
Um, I mean, I feel like guys aren't really, even if they do have Instagram.
01:28:01.380
Um, I feel like even if a guy does have an Instagram, most of the time, it's like a
01:28:08.920
big known joke that like their last picture is when they're like 14 holding a fish that
01:28:15.520
Um, but if they don't have an Instagram, it's, you know, it's whatever, I guess.
01:28:25.240
And I don't think anyone on this side of the table really has, do we have thoughts on this?
01:28:33.800
I think that, well, sure, we can answer it from that point of view.
01:28:38.760
I mean, if a girl, if a girl has no Instagram, I don't really care, to be honest.
01:28:46.220
Do you think it's a pro if she has no Instagram?
01:28:58.140
Like, I mean, she could have like deleted it and just like moved somewhere.
01:29:04.220
If she has no Instagram, that's a little weird.
01:29:07.680
But if she has like, she's just like low key and doesn't really care about social media
01:29:12.120
like that, then I mean, that's probably better.
01:29:14.620
I feel like girls, like if they see like a guy with a blue check and like a crap ton of
01:29:26.120
Or like some girls will talk about, they're like, oh, he's cute, but he has like a million
01:29:45.480
Yeah, as far as for me, it's probably actually, I think if a girl doesn't have an Instagram,
01:30:06.380
Girl with OnlyFans, do you split your money with your boyfriend?
01:30:12.560
Girl with OnlyFans, do you split your money with your boyfriend?
01:30:20.280
Also, ask the panel if the money should be split if their partner is making O.F. money.
01:30:27.460
I think you guys should give your opinions about like whether or not you should split it
01:30:30.580
with your partner and then I'll say what I actually do.
01:30:35.220
If, okay, but if you guys make an agreement, like let's say you go into the relationship
01:30:41.360
not, you know, not having the girl on OnlyFans and then she does it, then I feel like there
01:30:47.780
can be made an agreement that like, you know, you makes, you also, that could be put to dates,
01:30:53.240
that could be put to trips because like you didn't come into the relationship doing that.
01:30:57.260
If you come into the relationship already doing, you know, going with a girl that has OnlyFans,
01:31:00.820
then I feel like you have no right to be like, oh, now you have to give me some of that,
01:31:06.560
But I, if you're doing it, let's say relationship OnlyFans, for sure, split it.
01:31:13.580
I don't really have a take on this just because I have not encountered a scenario where I've
01:31:17.300
even been on a date with a girl who has OnlyFans, so.
01:31:23.920
I think it should be split if he's splitting all of his money with her.
01:31:29.520
It says, girls with OnlyFans, do you split your money with your boyfriend?
01:31:33.620
Well, is your boyfriend going to split his money with you?
01:31:47.240
Do you, like, is that your only source of income?
01:32:05.220
Well, around now when I've, like, stopped, I stopped posting for a bit, but now it's, like,
01:32:11.660
Do you, like, market it, like, on social media or something?
01:32:14.840
The only reason that I got any traction in the first place is because I was a streamer,
01:32:26.440
I was just, like, I literally posted it on my story once, and I was, like, hey, so I did
01:32:31.160
this because, but, like, back then I didn't have another source of income, and so, like,
01:32:35.720
I was living in the dorm and I did not want a shitty minimum wage job.
01:32:41.860
I'm assuming you don't post, like, weird-ass shit.
01:32:51.700
I feel like you post, like, feet pics, right, or some shit like that?
01:32:58.560
Well, I didn't know if, like, there was things that would, like, have to escalate to, like,
01:33:01.840
Pornhub or something that you could get, like, I guess, in trouble for, but no.
01:33:06.460
I mean, as long as you just, like, don't scam people, as long as you're, like, yeah,
01:33:10.620
this is what you're paying for, and they pay it, and you send it, then it's not really
01:33:15.200
Wait, Liv, do you want to, you want to answer the question?
01:33:19.260
Should they, if they're doing, like, joint shit on OnlyFans, should they split the money?
01:33:35.520
Um, yeah, I mean, I think it's definitely her money if she's putting her body out there,
01:33:40.420
but, like, um, that, I guess that just comes down to the boyfriend and the girlfriend's
01:33:45.400
If she, if she, like, wants, if she's, like, hey, I'm doing OnlyFans, and, you know, I'll
01:33:51.760
give you half, and he's cool with it, then that's their own agreement, but otherwise,
01:33:55.980
I think if she's putting herself out there, then it's her money.
01:33:59.180
It's your social security connected to that account, so.
01:34:04.040
All right, guys, would you guys, okay, she does OnlyFans, fine, but do you, does it matter
01:34:11.780
Like, if she posts her and shit, it's kind of weird.
01:34:14.540
Like, if I'm, like, if she's posting nudes, like, I'm out.
01:34:20.120
But if it's, like, if she's fucking just doing peep pics, doing the toes, that's the fucking
01:34:32.440
Like, I talked, my boyfriend and I were very open about it.
01:34:35.280
Like, I was, like, hey, like, I have an OnlyFans, so I just want to let you know.
01:34:52.620
But I don't, like, Venmo him the money that I've earned from it.
01:35:02.780
Like, it's just, if he's comfortable with me doing that, I'm, like, well, like, I appreciate
01:35:21.940
Women care a lot less about looks than men, not because they're less vain, but because
01:35:25.980
they put more value into other vain things like money and status.
01:35:40.440
I can open up to the panel if you guys want to say anything to that or.
01:35:43.480
Most, most women is a stretch, but I say there's a good amount of women.
01:35:47.100
Like, I see a lot of women with, like, really old dudes that are not attracted.
01:35:49.820
I'm like, girl, I know you don't find that dude attracted.
01:35:52.240
He must have money for sure or a good status wherever he's from, you know.
01:35:59.700
I've dated people with money and I've dated people without.
01:36:02.280
And it's not really a big thing to me, whether they have a certain status or not.
01:36:20.700
No, literally, she's, I'm doing OnlyFans, but she's chasing the bag.
01:36:25.280
Like, giving a massage, she's like, how much do you make?
01:36:31.400
I don't think that a guy, like, if you guys are, I mean, if you're really thinking about
01:36:35.540
the future, then, I mean, obviously a guy has to bring something in.
01:36:39.220
But, it's, I mean, for me, it's not like you have to make more than me for me to date you.
01:36:48.000
Well, I feel like at your age, money doesn't matter so much yet.
01:36:53.480
But, I was talking in her case, if I was her age.
01:37:00.660
You definitely want a guy that's going to be able to provide.
01:37:13.180
Hold on, I think I got something from Mike Davis here.
01:37:20.520
So, moving on, we wanted to talk a bit about height.
01:37:24.860
So, both of you guys are, what are your heights?
01:37:35.860
Okay, so, Tristan is 5'8", Leo, you're 5'7", ish.
01:37:44.480
So, have you guys encountered, because of your height, have you guys encountered difficulties
01:37:51.640
in dating related to that, or have you had girls say, you know, if you were a bit taller,
01:37:57.780
or just, has it been an issue for you guys when it comes to dating?
01:38:03.720
Honestly, I think it's a flex of a guy's with a taller girl.
01:38:09.040
Like, I had some, like, some tall-ass chicken, she's hella bummed, like, I'm down.
01:38:13.080
For sure, you'll get some people being like, oh, the short king over there has a girl taller
01:38:18.640
Like, I don't, I wouldn't care what anyone else is saying if a girl is taller than me and
01:38:23.100
Right, but so you guys don't care about the girl's height, but have you encountered girls
01:38:37.000
It's been brought up, but not by, like, girls that have, I don't know, I guess girls,
01:38:42.620
if they really did care, they wouldn't really pursue you, but.
01:38:44.940
Yeah, they wouldn't give you the time of the day.
01:38:46.160
Yeah, but no, for sure, like, if I was pursuing a girl, I've never gone the, oh, you're, like,
01:38:50.780
too short, or I've never gone the, like, plus, I don't think a girl would really tell
01:38:57.920
But I'm sure it's a factor in some girls, for sure.
01:39:11.520
Like, dude, if she's, like, fucking some little ass, like.
01:39:15.960
Dude, if you want kids, you don't want some, like, small ass, little ass kid.
01:39:20.960
That's why I'm saying it's a flex, like, for someone like me, that's, like, my height.
01:39:30.720
You've got to have certain aspects that are going to.
01:39:38.580
If, if her height doesn't start with four, she ain't the one.
01:39:46.520
I feel like tall guys, for sure, they like, they like shorter girls for some reason.
01:39:53.840
The, the shorter the girl is, the more she cares about height, interestingly enough.
01:39:59.480
Like, a girl who's five foot probably cares more about the guy being six foot than a girl
01:40:06.200
But the girl who's five, seven understands that, like, I mean.
01:40:12.420
Yeah, but, like, okay, looking at girls who are, like, five, seven and up, they understand
01:40:17.560
that a guy's usually probably going to start around five, seven and keep going up, whereas
01:40:21.760
a girl who's four something is, like, nobody's going to be shorter than me.
01:40:29.940
I have actually, I kind of, that theory is kind of, I don't know if I agree with it, because
01:40:35.320
I feel like I've heard a lot of girls who are on the taller end, you know, five, seven,
01:40:38.780
five, eight, I guess, five, nine even, you know.
01:40:40.860
They always usually say, I want a guy that's taller than me.
01:40:44.320
Like, if they get that question, like, where they're like, what do you look for in guys?
01:40:52.360
Like, I know girls, okay, girls that I went to high school with on the volleyball team,
01:40:56.600
they're like, look, I would love to have a tall guy, but you might be out of my cards.
01:41:02.680
Well, I guess the point I'm trying to make with the short girls wanting a tall guy is, is
01:41:06.720
a girl who's five, eight, she might say, I want a guy who's six feet.
01:41:09.880
A girl who's five foot, zero, four, eleven, or four, eleven, she's going to say, I want
01:41:17.200
She's not going to have the same, like, well, the five, eight girl wants a guy who's only
01:41:22.480
The girl who's five feet wants a guy who's a full, a whole foot taller.
01:41:25.840
So, uh, not, not all, not everyone, not everyone, but just, that's something I've definitely
01:41:37.560
I mean, I'd take a smart, short man over a stupid, tall man.
01:41:44.480
I would rather have a, I would rather have a smart, short man than a tall, stupid.
01:42:00.280
Honestly, you know, earlier I said if her height doesn't start with four, eleven, I'll go with
01:42:07.020
If there's any dwarves, if there's any dwarves, yeah.
01:42:29.240
Any bad bitch midgets watching, please hit them up.
01:42:32.020
If there's any dwarves, if there's any female dwarves in Santa Barbara, DM me at
01:42:56.140
No, my girl literally has baby, like, kid's shoes.
01:43:01.060
Like, if I try to get her Jordans, I can just get kid's shoes, and it's so, it's way
01:43:19.420
Okay, so do we have any, I think we got, oh, video.
01:43:23.340
Let's pull up the next Tate reaction video, and we're going to end here in about 10, 15
01:43:38.720
I have many concurrent serious relationships as we speak.
01:43:44.540
No, because that means they can talk to other dudes.
01:43:51.960
Throughout the majority of human history, female promiscuity has been absolutely frowned
01:43:56.420
Only in the Western world we're going to pretend this is an okay thing.
01:43:58.560
Every single culture since the dawn of human time and every single place on the planet
01:44:02.160
has said that female promiscuity is disgusting to the point where females were executed for
01:44:13.580
In most of the world today, it's still frowned upon.
01:44:17.220
Whereas every single king insulted and sheikhs as the dawn of human time had multiple women.
01:44:23.840
Because if a woman has multiple men, you cannot ensure paternity.
01:44:39.560
I would prefer to only have one man and I would never like cheat on him ever.
01:44:45.100
Like, I feel like cheating is more disgusting than having multiple people.
01:44:52.660
I think it's the same thing, like, that I said before.
01:44:56.120
Like, if the guy has money and he wants to have a bunch of women and take care of them,
01:45:03.860
But if, and if he doesn't want the women to be with anybody, that makes sense.
01:45:10.520
But if they're not providing anything, then I'll just have sex with whoever I want.
01:45:16.720
Um, yeah, I mean, I mean, every time, I always get confused after she goes first.
01:45:34.860
It's just your reaction to the video that we just watched.
01:45:37.240
Do you care about guys having a bunch of girls?
01:45:41.640
Um, if a guy has a bunch of women, I mean, I get what he's saying about, like, the paternity.
01:45:48.080
Like, if a guy has a bunch of women, you know who the dad is.
01:45:50.660
Whereas if a girl has a bunch of guys, it's like, oh, you know.
01:45:57.280
But I feel like, personally, I'm not the one, either, to have, like, a bunch of guys.
01:46:14.780
But I'm going to let him go first because I know exactly what he's going to say.
01:46:18.240
Because, um, I mean, I want someone to ask him what he thinks, what he's going to think
01:46:30.500
I don't agree with having a bunch of girls and, like, have, and, like, because he wants
01:46:38.040
And, um, it's like a weird family dynamic if he does have kids with them.
01:46:41.520
And it's just kind of fucked if you were to have a daughter and you have a bunch of girlfriends.
01:46:46.160
Because it's going to, like, fuck up her mental, right?
01:46:53.900
But, um, no, I mean, I'd rather prefer to be with one girl that's, like, super chilling.
01:46:59.960
Because to be able to handle a bunch of girls, it's too much energy that you're putting out.
01:47:05.660
I'd rather focus on other things than having ten girlfriends and doing all that shit.
01:47:14.740
I mean, I get, I get the perspective of, like, thinking of it.
01:47:18.220
If you have a daughter, would you want her to be with a guy that has, like, ten other girls?
01:47:24.420
I mean, most guys wouldn't, wouldn't want that for their daughter.
01:47:27.360
I mean, but for me, you know, I, I think I would prefer to just have one girl.
01:47:32.300
And I think the girls not being able to really have, like, I'm not being, not saying not being able to.
01:47:38.360
But, like, being frowned upon for having too many guys, you know, I get it.
01:47:44.080
But guys are, like, praised for having several girls.
01:47:47.320
You know, that's kind of just, like, the, the nature of how people are thinking now.
01:47:51.560
You know, they, they're still thinking that way.
01:47:55.100
But that's just the matter of the fact how people look at it, you know.
01:47:58.920
Guys definitely don't want a girl that's ran through.
01:48:07.300
Those guys probably don't get as much girls as the other guys.
01:48:10.900
And if you're, and if you're a girl and you're going with this guy and you know that he has several girls, you know.
01:48:15.320
Most likely she's just chasing the bag, you know.
01:48:17.440
Like, what's his name that owns, God, what's his name?
01:48:23.780
He has so many girls with him all the time, you know.
01:48:26.420
I don't know if he hooks up with them, but, like, those girls.
01:48:36.660
But if you're in the, you know, scenario where a guy's hiding a whole bunch of girls.
01:48:40.040
And he just makes you feel like you're the only one.
01:48:45.920
But if some, like, she, like, for example, she, her, she wouldn't really care.
01:48:51.620
She'd, like, if he's going to provide that type of lifestyle.
01:48:58.060
But I feel like most girls would rather prefer being with one specific person, building a
01:49:03.300
relationship with them and a family with them for the future.
01:49:07.080
But then I just look at it as I'm looking way ahead where now the guy's, like, 60 years
01:49:18.740
So it's, like, not natural for him to only want to have sex with me when I'm 60 years old.
01:49:26.900
Like, if he wanted to sleep with who, he's the king of the house.
01:49:30.820
You do realize you wouldn't have any type of, like, real connection with him, right?
01:49:34.460
If we have, like, for, like, my cousin, she's in a, she's in an ethical, non-monogamous
01:49:40.360
relationship where they are committed to one another.
01:49:43.120
But they are allowed to have sex with other people.
01:49:50.400
And because relationships and, I mean, sex and love doesn't always intertwine.
01:50:00.420
So then you don't need to be dating them if you're just trying to fuck someone.
01:50:07.900
I mean, I, I'm not assuming anything, but I just, I guess you, the way you're talking
01:50:12.320
about, like, personality, you cared about personality, and then you're like, yeah, but
01:50:15.320
like, if a dude was, like, fucking another girl while I was dating him.
01:50:18.660
I think, no, not, not, not if I didn't know about it, if he cheated on me.
01:50:23.460
But if he, if he wanted to, because a man wants to naturally spread his seed, a woman.
01:50:37.960
Just because it's natural doesn't mean you can't, like, have your own.
01:50:40.720
Well, it'd be better to be with a committed person, but, like, for example, like, I massaged
01:50:44.840
a 70-year-old man who was like, oh, I've been married for, I've been married for 40 years.
01:50:52.680
And he's like, yeah, it's really not working out.
01:50:56.620
There's probably, there's probably other issues in the relationship besides just.
01:50:59.380
Right, but I just think naturally, like, it's just not.
01:51:03.200
It's like, it would be nice to commit yourself and build with one person, but it's more about
01:51:10.100
So, if you could find someone that wants to commit with you, then that's different.
01:51:13.940
And then if you decide, oh, I'm not happy, I'm not satisfied in the relationship because
01:51:20.600
And I bet, like, for example, like the sugar baby thing.
01:51:24.140
I know there's a bunch of married men on those sugar baby things.
01:51:37.380
But, like, that all comes down to, like, they're losing their spark, I guess we were talking
01:51:42.300
You know, that little feeling fades sometimes for some people.
01:51:46.200
You don't, like, after being together for so long.
01:51:48.320
It's just, like, there's changes, you know, it's exciting.
01:51:52.060
You know, change is, like, you want to look for change.
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You want to, you know, if you're not keeping with change, you're being boring.
01:51:57.680
You know, after that many years, you're that old.
01:52:00.220
Yeah, there's a guy or the girl are going to get bored and they're going to seek for
01:52:03.480
someone else that can, you know, something changed, something new.
01:52:14.520
Or some, for example, like, some couples want to bring a third person in the bedroom.
01:52:23.080
Okay, right now, but you're, like, young right now and you're early in your relationship.
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Think, like, you're in a relationship for 30 years, 40 years.
01:52:36.320
Most of the time, when a guy asks for a threesome, they want to bring another girl in.
01:52:42.840
Like, personally, though, I don't think I'd want to bring another guy in.
01:53:01.580
Well, okay, so threesomes, straight up no for the dude.
01:53:07.900
Even a girl, though, I'd rather only disappoint one woman at a time.
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My girlfriend would have to convince me to do it.
01:53:33.300
Yeah, I thought it'd be better if she were to set it up.
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Like, the one that they ask to do it with them.
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Because it's usually two people that are in a relationship.
01:53:55.360
That I would be maybe okay with if I was single, you know.
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But, if I was in a relationship, I would never want to do that.
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Too bad she has a man or I'd follow her only fans.
01:54:24.380
I'm not going to fund another man's nice dinners.
01:54:35.020
Someone on my OnlyFans was like, yeah, I just got married last week.
01:54:40.920
Have you been with this person the entire time that you're subbing to me?
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So, maybe his wife just doesn't want to put up with that.
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Continue describing your type, and Chris Hansen will be at your door.
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Listen, just to be clear, 411, adult, like an adult dwarf, okay?
01:55:24.040
But thank you, Mike Davis, for the $5 soup chat.
01:55:48.680
By the way, guys, we are live right now on Twitch.
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If you have an Amazon Prime sub, you can sub totally free.
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If you can't, just show us a little support on Twitch.
01:56:09.560
I want to just open it up to the rest of the panel.
01:56:17.580
I just want to say both of them clarified that they would not cheat.
01:56:21.720
So I guess I would also like to say I would not cheat either.
01:56:25.560
But you would be fine with like an open relationship?
01:56:29.200
I would be fine if I know that no man is going to be okay with open relationship.
01:56:33.600
So I would be fine with if they're open on their side and I'm closed on them.
01:56:40.640
Do you or do you not want a guy to be loyal to you?
01:56:46.600
I loved your stuff when you started talking about the daughter.
01:56:56.220
Like if you like I fuck with everything you're saying, like most of it, the only thing I
01:57:00.240
don't agree with is the only thing I don't agree with is he in some of his videos, he's
01:57:06.620
like, yeah, I'm just going to have a bunch of girlfriends and like I want to have a lot
01:57:11.020
Well, if you have a lot of kids with a bunch of different girls, one, the family dynamic
01:57:16.740
If you have a daughter, think about how she's going to think about like, like I wouldn't
01:57:23.580
So I'm going to be, be someone that's going to guide her in the right direction because
01:57:29.620
So it's like you got to be that person for them.
01:57:37.080
You're also on the older spectrum, you know, just to look at it real and we're young.
01:57:40.740
So we're not really, we're not really on your, like, I don't know, I guess we don't
01:57:44.900
have your, your type of perspective because you know, you can't, as we, as we age, we're
01:57:52.180
Like you may already see that like, yeah, if you're with a man for like 30 years, you
01:57:56.780
might get bored and then, and maybe allow him to be with another girl.
01:58:02.240
You also have a job where you've gotten to talk to people about their life experience,
01:58:07.460
like where he's saying he's over his wife, you know, not everybody.
01:58:11.400
I, I mean, possibly in the future when I'm doing somebody's hair, an older woman can
01:58:15.680
be like, I'm over my husband, but like, you know, I'd be like, Oh, for sure.
01:58:22.560
Like she wants a good relationship with a good man.
01:58:25.880
The thing is like, you have to, she's 28 versus like, you have to become someone that's going
01:58:30.660
You can't, it's like a lot of girls, like if you guys know the fresh and fit podcast.
01:58:40.760
Some of the girls are like attracted, like you can't attract something you're not like
01:58:45.800
If you're going out all the time, getting ran through by a bunch of dudes, how do you
01:58:54.540
So how am I going to attract a man that's also at home with his cat?
01:58:58.240
Well, you have to, you have to go out and just like, just first of all, work on yourself
01:59:02.080
and just think about what you want out of a relationship.
01:59:07.460
And then once you think about it and you just start acting as if you're already there,
01:59:13.840
Also, also think about like, if you stay in a relationship with a man that you're not
01:59:18.920
The only real thing you're really like holding onto is the memories and that it's just like,
01:59:22.880
also sometimes it's cheaper to like keep her, I guess.
01:59:25.160
Like they get married and then they're just like stay together.
01:59:27.460
They're separated, but they're with different people, you know?
01:59:29.880
Like that's how some people are when they get older, but it's just like, you shouldn't
01:59:34.240
even like hold onto that just because the memories you guys should just like move on.
01:59:38.200
You know, if you started losing interest and I get when you're older, it's harder to find
01:59:42.760
But when you've built so much and the person just wants to sleep with someone else, like
01:59:48.940
But look, a guy that really wants, like if a guy really cares about you, the first thing
01:59:56.340
Kylie, do you have a final thought or question for the panel?
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Oh, it's just like this entire discussion to me.
02:00:01.240
It just doesn't make sense if a, if a man cares about me and we've built our entire like
02:00:05.060
life together and he's like, Oh, by the way, like I'm getting bored with you.
02:00:08.920
Like I, all of my memories would be fucking diminished by that.
02:00:13.020
Like I would, like I would have those good memories, but it's just.
02:00:18.440
Um, I wanted to talk about basically with the rating, um, when we were all asked to rate
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ourselves, but, um, I feel like to one person, I might be like a three, but to another, I
02:00:32.020
So I feel like that all circles in the preference and like the rating scale isn't a real thing,
02:00:55.640
We can look at a Victoria's secret model and most people, you line up a hundred people,
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men and women, they will, they will say, yes, this person is exceptionally attractive.
02:01:07.240
I like to make the comparison between Brad Pitt and Danny DeVito.
02:01:15.660
Yeah, everyone's going to meme about it, but like in, in actuality, like most people
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are going to say, Danny DeVito is not a physically attractive person.
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I'm sure he's a great, wonderful guy, but physically like.
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I just call those standards that people feel like they need to meet like a Victoria's
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Of course, any girl would love to look like that.
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I'd prefer not to be like a super tall, skinny, like Victoria's.
02:01:45.800
Most people will look at the fitness model and most people line up a hundred people and
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they're going to be like, yeah, she's very attractive.
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So I feel like that's like a, yeah, that's a standard that people want to meet.
02:01:56.380
But I think in the day to day normal person's life, like they're going to be like that girl
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to me is a 10 versus that girl to me isn't that attractive.
02:02:08.780
But everybody might, everybody might think that this one fitness model is attractive.
02:02:14.040
And then someone else would think she's not that attractive.
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Like for instance, if I was looking at a fitness model and I was like, he's a hundred percent
02:02:21.540
And my friend who has a completely different type than me is like, yeah, he's attractive.
02:02:25.080
But then when we go out on the street, we still have two different types.
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And I'm also, I'm an esthetician, so I'm not allowed to have acrylics.
02:02:50.980
So I was like, you're pulling carrots or something.
02:02:58.820
Well, like people try to overcomplicate it, but like the nature of it though, is like
02:03:02.900
we are going to find a girl with, you know, the nature of it, girls with curves, girls
02:03:07.940
with like, I guess, like bigger, I guess, spots, you know, it's more attractive.
02:03:12.040
Like if you look at animal, like animals, like certain things are more attractive to the other
02:03:16.240
animals, you know, certain features, same thing.
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We're like animals, you know, we, we, you find a guy more attractive by their masculinity
02:03:23.300
and girls, if they have certain features that, you know, naturally, you know, you've, people
02:03:33.720
Some people are going to defer left or right, like with certain people, but it's just the
02:03:38.960
Like there's always going to be a wide range, but there's always going to be a general skill.
02:04:01.060
So if you, like you prefer a short girl, I would prefer some fucking tallest girl.
02:04:05.120
This was the exact conversation I was trying to raise before and you guys were like, I
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I wouldn't, I wouldn't not, I wouldn't not date an Amazon fucking six, five chick.
02:04:24.180
I'll date a taller, I'll date a taller girl than me.
02:04:33.160
So I've been on dates with girls who are like six feet, six, one, six, two, six, three.
02:04:37.340
Like it happens to be the case of the times I've gone on, on women who are on dates
02:04:46.100
It just happens to, happens to be the case that it doesn't work out with them.
02:04:50.080
I suspect it has something to do with height because there's, you know, I go on dates with
02:04:56.320
But I do, I do think women generally, like they're not going to date a guy who's shorter
02:05:00.880
But most of the, like most of the time it's, they're just not feeling it.
02:05:06.620
So, um, yeah, I think I do have an overall preference that leans towards like shorter
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petite women, but, um, that's not to say that I wouldn't date a girl's average height,
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Cause it's usually all girls on the, on the, at the table.
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It's probably got, yeah, guys, a bunch of guys.
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Guys, if you're watching this shit, honestly, just work on yourself and, and build yourself
02:05:36.760
in a way that's going to put you up, uh, it's going to put you at an advantage.
02:05:43.620
I mean, yeah, but that's kind of wet, but like just don't focus on just trying to get
02:05:52.060
Not just like, think about, it's like your attention, your family, your future family, like all
02:05:56.520
It's, it's bigger than just getting bitches and getting laid.
02:06:03.420
You know, work on yourself, be, stop focusing more on like girls and chasing, drop the chase,
02:06:08.480
work on yourself and you know, they'll come to you, you know, you'll, you'll be a better
02:06:15.960
Uh, we're just going to wrap up here real quick with some super chats.
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Uh, Will Smith, $2, me and the bandana girl had entanglement.
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And then finally, Mike Davis with the $5 soup chat.
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If the blonde girl wants it, she can get it too.
02:06:47.380
And then I think we just got another super chat.
02:07:01.960
And then let's just get this final super chat here.
02:07:26.700
So, uh, that was, uh, our first time doing this three verse three format, uh, in the chat guys,
02:07:36.800
Do you want to see me go back to the, I suppose it's a one V four, one V six format where it's
02:07:45.520
just me, or would you like to see me continue to bring on some guys for this, uh, three V three
02:07:51.820
You got another super chat, another super chat.
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If you only chase girls, then you'll eventually run out of money.
02:08:05.100
But if you chase your money, then you'll never run out of girls.
02:08:13.000
Uh, I think 50 cents said something similar to the fact of, uh, if you're chasing women,
02:08:21.500
I think I'm totally butchering it, but you got to chase, get money first.
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English is my second language and I'm extremely pasty.
02:08:47.740
Um, so yeah, guys can, uh, one in the chat, if you'd like to see this format again, you
02:08:52.380
know, the three guys, three girls, we might do a quads, four guys, four girls.
02:08:59.660
Uh, let me know if you'd like to see that format again, one in the chat, if yes, two in
02:09:04.040
the chat, if you're just not really feeling it, you'd rather me go back to the other format
02:09:08.520
and, uh, yeah, we're just going to take a sec to see what the, uh, chat here has to say.
02:09:15.240
I feel like a lot of guys shit on it more when there's only girls.
02:09:19.980
I feel like I've heard more positive stuff today.
02:09:23.660
Well, cause guys, these guys also are, we're wording like a lot of their perspectives too.
02:09:28.420
Cause like they listen to the six year old and they're like, shit, I want to say like
02:09:34.220
And like we're wording, you know, what the majority of the guys think.
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But when there's six, yeah, when there's six girls too, there's a lot wider range of perspective.
02:09:42.680
Like some girls are like a hundred percent activist, feminist, like they are.
02:09:54.280
Well, I wanted to get like a, someone that would have really challenged us.
02:09:57.940
That's like my standpoint on the feminists real quick.
02:10:01.420
I mean, I say I'm a feminist because I'm a woman, but like, I also, I feel like, I feel
02:10:08.540
like there comes like a point where it's like, girls are like, you know, we need more rights.
02:10:15.220
But then when we're held to the same standard as a guy, they're like, but I'm just a girl.
02:10:20.320
So it's like, it's like, you can only ask for so much before you can receive so much.
02:10:28.500
So I'm like, because I'm a woman, I'm like, yeah, I should be able to vote, but I'm not
02:10:34.080
They pull the strings a little too much on it, you know, to get their way.
02:10:52.340
That's, that's a very based, that's a very base take.
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You don't get to pick the, the things you want and disregard the things you don't want.
02:11:06.180
So the issue with feminism is it's never really been about equality.
02:11:11.520
It's about, it's been about getting women preferential treatment or getting them rights
02:11:17.580
without the accompany, without the accompanying, uh, responsibilities.
02:11:25.340
So in order for men to have the right to vote, even to this day, they have to register for
02:11:35.140
The guys next to me, the two guys next to me here, they are including myself.
02:11:39.300
If we are subject to the draft in the event of a war, a catastrophic war, we would be
02:11:46.220
In fact, it's feminist organizations that actually, I'm pretty sure some of them are
02:11:51.540
pushing back against because there, there are organizations that are trying to, uh, equalize
02:11:57.940
Because when World War III was supposed to happen, yeah.
02:12:00.320
Well, I mean, if you look at, um, if you look at what happened in Ukraine, all the men were
02:12:05.680
required to stay in Ukraine and then all the women could leave.
02:12:10.300
So, I mean, there's not, there's no feminists when Russia's invading.
02:12:15.400
But I feel like when I, yeah, when that whole thing about World War III possibly breaking
02:12:19.680
out, they were talking about how women could supposedly be drafted.
02:12:22.980
And then now all the feminists were like, no, you can't draft us.
02:12:27.600
We're not going to be like, we're not going to be able to do that.
02:12:30.120
But it's like, you guys are also saying that we should be held to this.
02:12:35.100
It's like a hard topic because it's like, we should be held to the same standard.
02:12:39.100
But at the same time, if you want to be held to the same standard, then stand at the
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Don't fight when you are being held at the same standard.
02:12:49.740
I'm like, make me clean, make me mop, make me, you know, whatever.
02:12:53.880
But I feel like we might never like really reach like an equal level just because like
02:13:00.260
No, just because like the fact of also like our genetic makeup, like generally stronger,
02:13:05.340
you know, like they want to also have men in the war.
02:13:10.760
There's, there's definitely places that you don't have to be physically like, you know,
02:13:14.160
strong to be in the army or whatever to get drafted.
02:13:16.820
But like there's, I feel like guys are mainly, the reason they want to draft is because they're
02:13:23.420
They're, you know, it's just our genetic makeup.
02:13:25.540
But imagine if we had the ability to have cootie warfare.
02:13:37.200
I was just saying the word feminism is a very wide spectrum where you can be die hard.
02:13:43.160
Like, go fuck yourself if you're a man or just, I think, you know, we should be able
02:13:48.800
to vote, but like, I'm not going to push anything, you know?
02:13:52.400
One of my, one of my brother's exes literally would be like, oh, I hate all men.
02:13:56.780
I'm like, does that include the man you're dating?
02:14:08.560
If, if you ever hear a girl say, kill all men, all men suck, ask them if, ask them if
02:14:18.220
They're in a real fucked up position if you ask them that.
02:14:21.380
Um, but yeah, no, um, scroll back on their Instagram.
02:14:28.200
So anyways, um, but yeah, I mean, uh, anyways, we don't, let's not get too.
02:14:35.920
My main point was there's a wide spectrum of what feminism means or what, no, no, no.
02:14:43.080
Well, I think a lot of people just aren't super aware of what, what feminism actually
02:14:52.560
And they, most people just don't like, they hear things on the news and they just assume,
02:15:02.800
But I mean, feminism is really not at all about, sorry guys, I'm a bit tired.
02:15:16.420
Um, it's about, it's for, it's women's advocacy.
02:15:21.200
Um, my, my main gripe with feminism and which is, and one of the reasons why I don't think
02:15:28.160
a lot of, well, I don't think a lot of people should identify as feminist is the core tenant
02:15:35.700
feminism, the core foundation of feminism is the patriarchy theory.
02:15:39.920
And it is just that a theory and the theory is not fact.
02:15:45.820
And the patriarchy theory is incredibly damaging to both men, but also to women, because you're
02:15:51.500
teaching women that if you, if you teach women that all their problems and all the problems
02:15:58.040
that women, women have faced throughout history is as a cause of men as a group, then you're
02:16:05.340
essentially teaching women to have contempt for men.
02:16:08.660
It's an absolutely disgusting thing to teach women.
02:16:13.520
And it's an absolutely awful thing to inflict upon men.
02:16:17.020
So this idea that the, the history, the relationship between men and women and the history of the
02:16:24.820
relationship between men and women is one of class warfare and one oppressing the other
02:16:31.140
is, is modern day, absolutely inaccurate, and even historically, it's inaccurate.
02:16:37.700
Men and women have fundamentally, throughout history, cooperated.
02:16:41.640
Life is, life, especially in the past, was incredibly difficult.
02:16:46.220
And men and women were partners and worked together.
02:16:48.960
And now that you basically have what is effectively a bunch of extremely privileged people in universities
02:16:55.680
perpetuating this idea that men are oppressing women, and women are, it's kind of weird,
02:17:01.660
women are both strong and independent, but simultaneously victims that, to me, it doesn't make any sense.
02:17:11.320
They're kind of, they're stuck in the past, you know, I mean, like.
02:17:14.300
Yeah, yeah, 100, the whole cancel culture and everything, you know, you're walking on eggshells
02:17:18.560
for all this shit, you can't even say what you actually think, because it's like, oh, fuck, am I going to get canceled?
02:17:22.680
No, it's like, half the movies that can't be released now that we watch.
02:17:26.820
Yeah, it's fucking sad, like, white chicks would get fucking, yeah, you see, like, white chicks would get fucking canceled right now,
02:17:32.440
but it's like, come on, like, stop being so soft, and like, you know, like, stop thinking about the cancel culture, you know,
02:17:42.800
Okay, did we get another super chat that came in?
02:17:50.540
Chris, can you lower the volume just a little bit?
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Sorry, guys, I'm trying out this stupid new intro.
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I just want to thank you guys for tuning in tonight.
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You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.
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We will be live again Thursday at 7 p.m. with our next dating talk.
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I think we're going to be doing quads, 4v4, 4 guys, 4 girls.
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If you want to be on the show, DM at whatever on Instagram.
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I want to thank the panel for joining us tonight.