00:14:29.280um so oh my god it makes me nervous i didn't take my lexapro for this oh shit um1.00
00:14:36.920i was born like like a typical like mel would be with a penis in a way yeah what do you mean0.99
00:14:45.600in a well yes like uh because i know there's um i know there's like uh i don't know if this is the0.93
00:14:51.720right term so you'll have to excuse me or correct me hermaphroditism but now they got rid of that
00:14:58.920they just called them intersex as well okay they got rid of that term yes they don't like
00:15:02.920derogatory but so didn't my bad didn't know no i'm just kidding um so you have your parts were
00:15:12.300not functional no so so technically it's um klein filter syndrome is what i am okay so
00:15:21.120typically it's like so i started growing like breasts at the age of 12 13 my my mom took me
00:15:27.820to the doctor they're like when did you start going breast and then they did some labs on me
00:15:32.460they ran my chromosomes all that so I had low testosterone but high estrogen um and so
00:15:38.760I was like 14 13 when I was told this so I can't remember everything interesting but since they
00:15:45.680found that I was able to have my surgeries covered but I also I was under the age of 18 too
00:15:51.480so but you have to have like the endocrinologist sign off and your doctor sign off like this is
00:15:57.600um like what it is because not everyone with my um makeup is trans or transition some of them just
00:16:07.360stay as a male but they're infertile right a majority of the men are infertile but they have
00:16:12.620like um like breast tissue hips they're typically shorter okay than their siblings like i'm the
00:16:20.580shortest out of my brothers and my sister well my sister is like five seven yeah i was i just
00:16:25.040googled it the klinefelter syndrome uh common signs include tall height you're how tall are you
00:16:31.1005 10 5 10 uh small testicles low testosterone infertility um less facial and body hair breast
00:16:41.200enlargement gynecomastia i think i'm saying that right um but it says here um treatments um so
00:16:50.700So you, so to speak, and I don't know if this is the right terminology or the way you would use it, in terms of transition, you identify as a woman.
00:17:04.460Right. But here it says, and maybe this is a very cursory Google search, that they do testosterone replacement therapy, which would suggest that in the cases of, I suppose, in some cases of Klinefelter syndrome, XXY, they don't transition the individual to a woman.
00:18:20.140The only thing about that is, like, okay, so, like, when you have, like, at least for me, when it comes to, like, oh, wait, what did you say?
00:18:31.040Oh, well, so I was saying that they could, and perhaps I approached it the wrong way, but they could transition into either a male or a female, or excuse me, a man or a woman.
00:18:47.280But if they just progressed as male, as a man, that wouldn't be a transition because that is the default, right?
00:18:56.460it technically yes well like i said like when it comes to chromosomes not everything is black and
00:19:02.620white like right they're not the i understand yeah so i understand that it's xxy so they're
00:19:06.920not strictly xy they're not uh they they're something different yeah well like and not
00:19:16.660everyone not all of the kleinfelters got a transition majority of them do not so my case
00:19:22.220are just a little different. I just happen to have XXY. Got it. Okay. Um, cool. So you have
00:19:31.440surgeries. Yes. Well, what have you had done? I've had everything done. What list? Like give
00:19:36.480us the list. Head to toe. Yeah. Give us the list. Um, I've had like a brow lift. I've had like
00:19:41.700buccal fat removal um i've had liposuction i've had like gender surgery to conform like
00:19:52.440to who i am so you've had uh the breast implants is that correct yeah i've had them three times
00:19:58.760bbl no or some i've had lipo or something like that i've had lipo so i had lipo that was taken
00:20:06.580from like my inner thighs i've had lipo that was taken from so closer to oh sorry so the lipo that
00:20:12.880was taken from my inner thighs they put up like to make more of a shelf up here because i wanted
00:20:18.040more fullness so they just trans they just put fat there okay and you've had bottom surgery0.99
00:20:23.560so you have a neo vagina i i guess designer designer yeah designer vagina yes it's like a1.00
00:20:34.920designer bag for vaginas yeah like the Hermes okay sweet well uh you're the first intersex1.00
00:20:43.840person on the show we've had some trans people on the show but yeah I think you know Avery0.99
00:20:49.000we've had Gorlock we've had I think one or maybe we had one that claimed we had someone who
00:46:06.980Thai and Laotian, yeah. Laotian. Just curious. Are you part white or full Thai? I'm 50-50. 50-50 Thai, 50 Thai, 50, how do you say, Laosh? Laotian. I'm 50% Caucasian, 50% Asian. Oh, okay, I see. So 25% Thai, 25%. Which parent is white? My dad. Dad's white. Oxford study.
00:46:36.980yeah and okay hmm and you're like okay she did what does your mom think about the
00:52:58.380And look, I accept that women do indeed, and in fact wear makeup.0.92
00:53:03.220But I do believe that the heavy use of makeup and cosmetics and plastic surgery procedures and Botox and Lipo, all this stuff, all of the stuff, I do think it is deceptive to a degree.
00:53:18.200It can vary from individual to individual.
00:53:20.720You can have a woman who just throws on a bit of eyeliner and that's it.1.00
00:53:23.980Is that going to substantially alter her physical appearance?1.00
00:53:27.080A teeny bit, but, well, it'll alter it a teeny bit.
00:53:30.460I don't think it substantially alters it.1.00
00:53:32.100Whereas you can have a woman who's like full glam, full face of makeup, extensions, boob job, Botox, lip filler, all that.0.92
00:53:42.840And you start getting into like such a transformation that this is not how the person actually genuinely looks.0.73
00:53:50.700So when we talk about genuine, and look, I know you're talking about personality, but it is kind of interconnected.
00:53:56.920um so i don't know i always found that interesting that women often like to talk about
00:54:06.700men's lack of being genuine when your entire external you're just seeing hold on wait wait
00:54:13.920your your entire not when i say you i'm not talking about you i'm talking about women in
00:54:18.420general and women who employ substantial amount of makeup um when they're presenting publicly
00:54:25.000your entire external appearance is ingenuine is a facade is fake is not real make up it is made up
00:54:37.780it is fake can i say something of course go ahead i think your makeup looks amazing i think she0.99
00:54:45.060looks very natural and like i wish natural get it's okay i know women will always the sisterhood
00:55:21.540think it looks natural she's got a full face she's contouring that she has eyelashes but honestly0.99
00:55:27.220that's part of the fun of being a girl is like doing those fun things and like if it looks good
00:55:31.860and you like it why not i you know for me it would look funny on me right but i think it looks great
00:55:36.800i think if it makes her happy and there's plenty of guys who who love when a girl's all glammed up
00:55:41.720so i'm not saying that her makeup looks bad that's not what's the contention here the contention
00:55:48.960here which is a bit of a tangent is women often criticize men for their lacking of being genuine
00:55:56.200and I understand that you're typically talking about the man's personality right or how he0.99
00:56:02.560behaves how he acts but women are so often lacking in their external appearance they're so lacking1.00
00:56:11.500in genuineness when it comes to their appearance and whether it's your intention or not it is0.98
00:56:17.760certainly deceptive from a romantic and dating perspective, whereby you can transform your
00:56:26.380appearance to such a degree. I'm not saying all women do this, but pushed far enough, makeup can0.98
00:56:32.380have such a transformative impact and have such an immediate elevation and artificial boosting
00:56:41.440in the derived attraction that men will feel towards a woman. There is makeup that women can0.95
00:56:49.200wear that will turn a man's no into a yes. I believe if that is the case, then makeup must1.00
00:56:57.940be deceptive. If it can make a man otherwise attracted to you while you're wearing makeup,
00:57:03.680if he would not be attracted to you, if you were not wearing makeup.
00:57:07.300You know what my dad said? My dad just always told all my four brothers,
00:57:10.060just take the girl you really like swimming before you get married so it washes off and0.79
00:57:14.240you feel like her without the makeup because we do wear makeup as women right like to feel good
00:57:20.080about ourselves and not all of us not all the time but there's nothing at this table that i
00:57:25.000see is like overdone or anything like that i think well hold on over it depends what you mean by
00:57:32.720overdone i mean we don't have any uh drag queens at the table but um there is some heavy makeup1.00
00:57:38.940front on a few of the women here at the table but also the thing about like take the girl swimming1.00
00:57:43.060women actually fight back against this because there's i don't know there's um1.00
00:57:47.460setting like you can women will like post videos of themselves in makeup like scrub their face1.00
00:57:56.260go in the pool like as sort of a gotcha to that there's makeup that isn't just gonna like start1.00
00:58:01.860running or whatever just because it's wet so um my mother still sleeps with her eyeliner on
00:58:07.900to not scare my dad I swear like is it tattooed no but and she makes a joke about it it's not this
00:58:12.980huge deal so I understand like the extreme yes I understand the extreme but I think most most
00:58:18.900makeup is totally fine and I don't think we get asked out if we didn't wear makeup so I've gone
00:58:24.520on the first date and not worn makeup what's that I've gone on a first date and not worn makeup
00:58:29.100yeah that's fine I mean look um I guess ultimately here I'm not like kind of necessarily strictly
00:58:36.240singling you out on this topic as a general principle about makeup because you raise this
00:58:41.920criticism of like lacking in being genuine but like recently our company's softball team lost
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00:59:18.200Do women really have a place to speak on this? Why would you have more of a say than a woman?1.00
00:59:26.440Well, both men and women can be lacking in genuineness when it comes to their personality, right?0.96
00:59:35.900But women, to a far larger and stronger degree than men, you would have to, every woman here, I hope, would have to agree with me that when it comes to genuineness in terms of external physical appearance, women certainly take the cake in lacking thereof.0.83
00:59:54.200i think a woman can have uh outward appearance of a lot of makeup cosmetic surgery whatever you want0.71
01:00:02.760and still have like a really deep heart and like a really deep intellectual mind like0.99
01:00:08.600what we see on the outward appearance doesn't really determine what's on the inside well so0.82
01:00:14.260logically yes a woman could be the most plastic woman in the world and logically it is possible1.00
01:00:22.820for her to like be the most intelligent like genius level IQ however I do think that there1.00
01:00:29.820is some probably correlation with uh excessive makeup use excessive plastic surgery there's
01:00:36.100probably some correlation with um like I think if you're so heavily engaged in plastic surgery
01:00:42.800you're probably suffering from some degree of body dysmorphia even facial dysmorphia um and so
01:00:50.300So I would argue that someone's exterior appearance, while doesn't necessarily dictate their interior, can provide helpful context clues to making a determination as to what kind of person this is.
01:01:08.140For example, if I saw somebody with gang tattoos and face tattoos, this is a person I'm going to have greater apprehension dealing with than the person with zero tattoos.
01:01:23.420So I do think you can draw from outward physical appearance and come to certain conclusions about the person.
01:01:29.740Now, mind you, though, the person who's blasted in gang tattoos, face tattoos, this person can have been exited from the gang life for many years, could be a kind, good person, you know, not be involved in crime or anything like this.
01:01:44.280But this idea that you can't infer anything from outward appearance, like, is that your position?
01:01:50.640I can't, you can't judge a book by its cover at all.
01:01:54.160Okay, I think in my experience being around women who, you know, have work done, there can be a sense of guardedness that I've noticed a little bit more than the average person.
01:02:06.600And I think that's, I think it's societal, like it's, I think women are, there's a lot of pressure on women to show up a certain way with a certain, you know, body weight and size of breasts, size of lips, face shape, all these things.
01:02:24.160we are supposed to look like otherwise we're ridiculed and so just like men who make a lot
01:02:30.220of money and like will try to like boss up in their in their uh societal position women will1.00
01:02:36.000try to outwardly express themselves as beautiful so that they are accepted in society like can you0.96
01:02:42.660get where's tiffany can you go back please i think we're all like trying to like everyone's
01:02:47.240trying to fit in in one way or another it's a survival mentality um and so i think yes you
01:02:52.280can infer like oh maybe they're a little faker but I think the better word would be like more0.99
01:02:57.220guarded and a little more like hiding and and things like that because maybe a woman who's like1.00
01:03:02.060silly and goofy some guy might look at her and be like oh like she shouldn't be silly and goofy0.97
01:03:07.040she should be quiet and whatever um and so like is it your contention that um this is a this is0.99
01:03:13.500an exclusive phenomenon that only women deal with that there are uh look standards beauty standards
01:03:19.700I mean, I believe that in a lot of ways, what I was getting to a bit earlier was that I actually think that women are harsher judges of male appearance than the reverse.
01:03:32.280I believe that of the things that society and women care about in men when it comes to physical looks, much of that is completely out of men's control.
01:26:36.180So something, and you can disagree with me, but I believe, like, you know how they say, like, a man's love language is respect?
01:26:41.200I believe a woman's love language is a sense of communication because we are emotional, and men are emotional, too.
01:26:47.420But the way we think and the way we process things and the way we were created is very different.
01:26:51.380We have different needs, both men and women.
01:26:52.960And I think that if we're in any relationship, vice versa, the man and the woman need to do good at being intentional and making them feel loved and seen and cared for.
01:27:01.960Like, that's how a relationship works.0.52
01:27:03.520I also think the way a woman's mind works is that if we cannot trust a man emotionally, then we're not going to trust him physically most of the time.0.87
01:27:12.140It's like there's a guard if a man does something emotional or maybe they don't communicate or we don't feel reassured, it does close us off physically.
01:27:19.880That's why a lot of marriages, when there's not that sense of communication, all of a sudden, it's like, then they don't want to sleep together.
01:27:26.560And the next thing you know, it's a divorce.
01:27:28.040And so I think, you know, in order from a woman's perspective to make a woman feel loved, I think providing for her goes way farther than just money.
01:27:36.740But it also comes with her emotions and making her feel seen.
01:27:39.700But like you said, vice versa, the woman also has to make the man feel seen and respected in whatever way that looks like.
01:27:46.460I just think there needs to be intentionality.
01:27:48.020And I think that she was making the effort to communicate.
01:27:51.740And I guess my question to you is, if you feel like that's nagging, how do you think we should approach someone with a healthy conversation so that the relationship isn't?
02:10:35.480Do you think it's someone that's serious if they're just coming to you for sex immediately and without wanting to know your heart and who you really are?
02:10:46.940me personally no i don't think it would be serious if that's the first thing they're
02:10:53.560asking for after a first date i think you should give it time and wait and if they're the right
02:10:59.000person then sex complicates things yeah sex like sex makes things so much better i mean so much
02:11:06.700it's either rose-colored glasses or it's literally i'm i'm a believer in jesus and so i believe sex
02:11:13.260is a transference of whatever that other person's got going on straight to your soul like you have0.96
02:11:18.800sex with somebody who's carrying a demon of pride then that demon of pride now has access to your
02:11:24.180life because you're becoming one with the spirit that they're carrying I think sex is very spiritual0.98
02:11:28.620so I think we as a society need to stop making it oh like just a one night hit it and quit it
02:11:32.960just a one night stand oh my gosh it's just so goofy and fun it's not goofy and fun it's like
02:11:36.880serious it's life or death and it's like literally your soul and we should need to take it more0.99
02:11:41.720seriously i do think yeah you should not stick your dick in crazy but i think it's fine to0.99
02:11:46.480sleep with somebody right away i mean yeah are you a christian uh no i as a sort of a caveat i0.99
02:11:56.300have pro-christian sentiment so i'd consider myself agnostic but i'm i'm not an atheist
02:12:01.800i'm not an anti-theist i don't have negative sentiment towards christianity um but i don't
02:12:08.760find myself having the metaphysical spiritual belief in god but in terms like christian as a
02:12:18.240positive force in the world in this country that's indisputable um and it being good for
02:12:27.220the individual level too i think that's also the case but i uh am not a christian yet is what i
02:12:35.880like to say? I think sometimes people, and I'm not saying you, but I think people can be avoidant
02:12:40.420towards Christianity because of the accountability towards God that's required. Accountability.
02:12:44.620Like where like God, like God, well, yeah, like God, well, yeah. And it's like the first thing
02:12:51.280God ever said to me whenever I audibly heard his voice was I said, no to the things you're doing
02:12:54.660because I love you. That was the first thing I ever heard God say to me. And so I understood God
02:12:58.360as a good father from that moment on, because I literally thought that God gave me rules because
02:13:03.000he wanted to send me to hell that was my idea of him but when he said that to me i was like oh okay
02:13:07.080like if i make a mistake he's never gonna leave me because he's a loving father but also like
02:13:11.920he did give me rules to protect me like he doesn't want me to have demons being attached to me he
02:13:17.560doesn't want me to be drinking and be making stupid decisions okay but so uh i think that0.81
02:13:24.860sometimes people's perhaps hesitation to becoming Christian can be apprehension to0.98
02:13:33.460they want to continue being degenerates so they don't want to like take the label of Christian
02:13:38.360or they don't think that they can abide by the commandments of God. They can't, you know,0.72
02:13:44.600the premarital sex, the certain other avoidance of sinful behavior. They're not ready to give that
02:13:50.000up. That can be a component. However, that's not really me. Um, my issue, uh, now granted,
02:13:58.640I do engage in premarital sex. I don't have an, I am just to be clear. I'm not like trying to run
02:14:03.760through a bunch of chicks. I do prefer long-term relationships. I have no interest in sleeping
02:14:08.880with a girl once and never talking to her again. Um, that doesn't interest me if I, so I am
02:14:15.280intentional in the sense that if I do have sex with a girl, I want there to be continuity.
02:14:19.220I want to keep seeing her. Um, and I am not to sound corny. Like I am looking for the one I have
02:14:27.160no interest in just sleeping with a girl just for funsies. Typically, uh, it's more so like I am
02:14:36.820intentional and I do want there to be continuity. If I sleep with a girl, I do want to see her again.
02:14:42.700But that aside, my point that I was making earlier was, so I am lacking in belief of the supernatural.
02:14:51.760I'm lacking in the belief of the metaphysical.
02:14:54.840So that comes first because you said the person doesn't want to, I forgot exactly what you said, walk in line with God or doesn't want to.
02:18:19.820some say I follow Apollo, some say I follow Paul, are you not being mere human when you say this?
02:18:24.140Some people are saying, I follow the early church fathers, they said this, this, and this,
02:18:27.720so therefore, like, I'm going to be orthodox. You can be orthodox, but if you're thinking your
02:18:31.440salvation is based off of what you follow or what church father you believe in, then you have the
02:18:38.900wrong gospel. Okay, hold on. So, what was the original thing? You asked if I believe in
02:18:49.600I'm not opposed to early church fathers.
02:18:52.540Before that, because we were just sort of getting into the God conversation.
02:18:58.420Oh, you asked me, well, Brian, what about people's firsthand experiences
02:19:02.860that they claim that they've had some sort of supernatural experience
02:19:06.640or they've talked to God or Jesus or whatever?
02:19:09.440So your question is, do I believe them?
02:19:11.700Yeah, do you believe that they actually happen when people like eyewitness?
02:19:15.560So I believe extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
02:19:19.600Um, I can't deny that these things happen, but I don't have like any actual proof that they happen.
02:19:25.960And again, to reiterate, I don't, I have pro-Christian sentiment, but, and again, I, I would actually, and I think this goes beyond what even a lot of nominal Christians or perhaps even non, you guys are non-denominational Christians.
02:19:39.820I wouldn't have a problem with Christian nationalism.
02:19:43.040You might disagree with Christian nationalism.0.66
02:20:13.680I don't know, I couldn't tell you precisely how that would manifest itself
02:20:17.220and like laws, for example, or government structure, but, um, I'm basically fine with it.
02:20:23.640Yeah. Well, are you fine with Christian nationalism? I think Christian values are
02:20:27.460great. I think if everybody followed Christian values, and by that, I mean the way Jesus walked,
02:20:32.000the way Jesus treated others, the things Jesus commanded us to do, then yeah, I think we would0.73
02:20:35.680have a great society, but the Christian nationalism in the way where it's like, repent, turn or burn,0.95
02:20:41.320everybody has to do this or die. It's like, that's not Christ's heart. Like that's, that's not the0.97
02:20:45.960heart of Jesus. And so I'm all for the heart of Jesus being spread to the United States. That's
02:20:49.680great. But people condemning other people for not behaving in a Christian way, I think is not
02:20:54.380ideal. When you say condemning other people for not behaving in a Christian way,
02:20:58.680are you, what would you be referencing? Well, like, like, like women who do sex work?
02:21:05.120Yeah. Yeah, sure. Like women who do sex work. I don't agree with sex work. I think it's demonic.1.00
02:21:09.300I think that it invites spirits into your life. I think it's a sin. But I going to that woman and
02:21:15.400in identifying her as that rather than identifying her as what God calls her, I think that's where
02:21:20.180the problem is. Well, Christians are allowed, some people say that Christians aren't allowed
02:21:25.800to judge, which is erroneous. Christians are, in fact, I think not just allowed, but
02:21:31.120called to act with righteous judgment. So what would actually be wrong with a Christian
02:21:39.460judging a non-Christian for doing something that is sexually immoral? Well, in the context of the0.71
02:21:44.920verse where it says righteous judgment it's actually talking about within the church um
02:21:48.700judging righteously within the church so if a brother and sister in Christ like for example
02:21:52.320there's this dude I'm not going to say any names but this guy he claimed to be Catholic he claimed
02:21:56.780to be this man of God but then he's like messaging me and like trying to get lustful with me and so
02:22:01.780I told him I was like hey bro you need to repent like you need to you need to come to Christ and
02:22:05.880you need to honor the values that you claim that you have but I'm not going to sit here and be like0.97
02:22:10.160wow you're a disgusting creature that's what I'm talking about like people call judge people think0.96
02:22:14.420judge and then they think oh you're disgusting for that rather than saying hey you have this0.99
02:22:18.440standard of living you are called to that so you need to act accordingly well i i think that
02:22:24.280and i don't know what is in alignment with uh scripture and christianity i would agree that
02:22:33.820perhaps approaching somebody and calling them disgusting is not going to be particularly
02:22:37.080effective yeah i think but i is it wrong to say what they're doing is wrong no okay it's it's not0.97
02:22:43.620wrong it just depends like I'm not going to say to a non-believer hey you need to stop they don't
02:22:49.320they're not under any obligation to not do sex work like I can tell them hey you're a beautiful
02:22:54.620daughter of God your your body is sacred and and you need to understand that so that you're not
02:23:00.080utilizing this gift God has given you to appease men who are looking at you and dehumanizing you
02:23:05.540it's it's about love more than it's about like wrath yeah but I think that there are
02:23:10.680for these things, even going beyond Christianity, there are plenty of secular arguments
02:23:19.020to be made against these things that don't rely on God or Christianity or the Bible.
02:23:25.980I think you can have non-religious arguments against sex work. I think you can have non-religious
02:23:31.360arguments against abortion, for example. You can have non-religious arguments against all sorts of
02:23:37.460of varying moral degeneracy but that's all subjective it's all a subjective opinion you're
02:23:43.400correct it would all be subjective um so uh yeah that gets into a sort of another dilemma if it's
02:23:51.100subjectivity subjective versus objective truth but um i don't know i don't know where we're uh
02:23:58.200i guess going with that but uh hmm i think i was just simply saying that uh
02:24:05.700let me ask you a question do you think women can be uh priests or pastors nah well they i believe
02:24:15.340they can the word is shepherd uh okay so your friend here says say that again i said i believe
02:24:22.060they can because when you go into that verse in first timothy where it's talking about that0.81
02:24:26.880or what is it first or second is this a heresy i think it's heresy hear me out hear me out you
02:24:33.360You have to read everything in the context because a lot of people, they'll take that out of context when in reality it was written about the church that they were talking to back then because the women were literally like overextending themselves, talking and blurting out.
02:24:47.240And so they were actually correcting them.
02:24:49.520So a lot of people nowadays, they'll take that one verse out of the whole entire Bible when in reality the first woman that evangelized, the first person that evangelized the gospel was a woman.
02:25:00.180The first person that went and evangelized to the city was a woman.
02:25:29.180There's thousands of years of church history where women were, and justified through scripture, and church teaching, where women were prevented from being clergy.
02:30:34.300Oh, I was just thinking about the verse that talks about he's made us a kingdom of priests to reign with his son.
02:30:38.920And so one of the things, too, like I'm going to kind of go a little deep in some stuff.
02:30:43.060But on the opposite end, if we're talking about the spiritual stuff, even people in witchcraft can be called priestess.
02:30:50.640They're the people that actually do like the real stuff, sacrifices and all this stuff for people to put hexes, vexes, curses and whatever.
02:36:28.160So the priesthood authority, I mean, there's plenty of really wonderful Christian women that I've heard, and I agree with what they're saying.
02:36:33.860Because priesthood, because I'm Baptist, so we don't have, like, priests, so is that equivalent to, like, a pastor?
02:42:52.340But I think always, like you said, we should submit and have an equal trust in our husband, but also they should love us as he loves the church.
02:52:18.000No, I was just asking, because you said, using the question you asked her, for example,
02:52:22.880Um, if your husband doesn't, uh, or boyfriend or whatever does not agree that a woman should be clergy, but you do, do you submit to him and agree or, and so I was asking, does the submission include that you automatically agree or is it just agree to disagree and submit to the husband?
02:52:44.000Uh, well, it could be something like, um, I'm trying to think of an example of this.
04:06:50.440what the fuck do we need mosquitoes are they really i'll still suffer like life will still be0.99
04:06:56.880like fucks without mosquitoes but how about no mosquitoes you know i agree that i wish they0.99
04:07:02.000didn't bite but they are nighttime pollinators i actually didn't know that i didn't know i learned0.98
04:07:06.880something new today yeah i've always been like why do we have i was gonna say could i say something
04:07:11.140real quick sure okay so i just want to be real because i feel like sometimes christians aren't
04:07:16.760like aren't able to admit that they don't know and so all i'll say is i don't have the answer
04:07:21.900to the question that you're asking i also have questions but i just want to encourage you that
04:07:25.340i feel like god is not um scared of your questions like he actually loves that you have these and
04:07:30.480you're like what the heck why is there suffering why is this and this and this and that like he's
04:07:34.860not scared of it or he's not like uh saying that it's not okay to not have questions but um i guess
04:07:40.640what i want to encourage you with is i'm sorry that you've gone through so much chronic pain
04:07:44.720because I can understand as someone that went through torment for three years I had the same
04:07:49.140question to God I was like God where are you why would you put me in this situation if you love me
04:07:53.200why would you watch people do that to me and I had all the same questions and all I can say to you
04:07:58.780is that God loves you and he sees you and I know you might not want to receive that but I just want
04:08:04.060you to know that your life matters that you're important and I'm sorry that you've gone through
04:08:07.820chronic pain because as someone that also had health issues I know how much and how much torment
04:08:12.440that can be and how many things can be confusing about God's character but uh genuinely I believe
04:08:18.680God can heal you and my question to you is if let's say someone did pray you pray for you and
04:08:24.400you got supernaturally healed what would be your response to God would you follow him if you got
04:08:30.620supernaturally healed I mean how could you not so if I uh sure I suppose like would that make you a
04:08:42.420you were saying earlier you're like oh i just haven't seen anything any evidence like if you
04:08:45.940saw evidence sure if i saw evidence absolutely like if you experienced yes power would you if
04:08:51.900i saw evidence for god would i believe in god yes i would believe in god like like do you believe
04:08:56.240history books uh do i believe history books yeah okay so i believe jesus was a real person uh but
04:09:05.020yes i believe in history books yes okay so and you don't believe in god tell me the the history that
04:09:12.060would sufficiently be evidentiary to prove god exists the bible which is a book do you believe
04:09:20.540in the quran the world that we're living in you don't know what the quran is no that this didn't
04:09:25.080she wants to have a conversation about history but doesn't know what the quran is like i don't0.64
04:09:29.700know history world's second biggest religion okay so islam um is islam true0.92
04:09:36.180i don't know why you're wait you're literally christian i think you have to reject0.51
04:09:41.740islam as a christian islam contradicts itself quite a bit uh okay okay so you're familiar
04:09:49.780with islam though correct not really no you're not familiar with unfortunately not you're you
04:09:57.240are where it is a religion yeah i believe it came about 600 years after christianity
04:10:02.680I don't know the history of a 600-year-old religion.
04:10:06.100But so your argument is, well, Brian, there's books historically written that have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, the Bible, Christianity.
04:11:46.280I would tell them to read the New Testament, that 1,500 prophecies that were in the Old Testament have been fulfilled, that Jesus fulfilled every single thing that was prophesied about the coming Messiah.
04:20:48.780I would say someone who's disciplined, someone who has, like, ambition and, like, integrity and just respect or common respect, I would say.
04:21:03.140Aligned values with myself and confidence in themselves, self-love, and open-mindedness towards other people's perspectives.
04:21:16.200i would say for sure somebody who has faith somebody that has a great sense of humor humor
04:21:25.140is a huge one for me just so we can have fun in life and somebody that takes like their health
04:21:30.540really seriously eating well and exercise and just doing those kind of activities together
04:21:35.200throughout our whole life i'll say man of god i want someone that's on fire for jesus and then
04:21:41.660the second is emotional intelligence like situational awareness deep with empathy and
04:21:46.560the third one is like someone who's very um uh what's the word like it sounds weird saying
04:21:53.260fatherly but like someone who's very uh like gentle with like people yeah like protective
04:21:59.540gentle like yeah those characteristics um for me a sense of humor a strong sense of family like
04:22:07.380they want a family good family dynamic and a provider like a protector yeah amen that's good
04:22:16.860yay those were actually really good what are some deal breakers that you guys have
04:22:21.300smells bad yeah bad hygiene or hygiene bad hygiene no emotional intelligence um if they0.96
04:22:28.240listen to taylor swift yes describes to only fan girls avoidant yeah watches porn if they're0.96
04:22:36.040can't joke with me or can't take a joke like yeah like can't understand your sense of no sense of
04:22:44.300humor my yeah husband and i have a sense of humor that most people won't get no yeah probably take
04:22:51.380it as what is it pretty harsh sometimes oh it's not towards each other usually it's usually us0.75
04:22:56.940talking shit on other people together so oh someone that's rude to their family are people0.67
04:23:01.880yeah yeah cool yeah be nice to your family guys i think my biggest turnoff for a man is being0.98
04:23:07.640him being disrespectful towards me and his family and others that's good you can be stern and
04:23:13.380straightforward but i think there's a difference you know that's good sure doing a fit check or
04:23:20.000i run cold really i'm sorry i ran cold it's so hot i run cold i like i'll go in the sauna
04:23:41.440in the summertime like yeah yeah i have i have a sauna um to be fair i had a hysterectomy so
04:23:48.200let's get into some of the questionnaire stuff uh oh disagreements with the show i don't know if we
04:23:53.460any i don't know yes courtney has disagreements uh okay courtney let's do that uh you had some
04:24:01.980disagreements uh yeah i i disagree with the way that men are exalted above women on this show
04:24:12.420rather than equal oh can you be a bit more specific like i've just seen clips so i don't
04:24:20.060watch the show like a lot i've just seen clips on my page but um what i've seen is kind of like0.96
04:24:25.540like kind of like andrew tate's philosophies of like calling women bitches and telling them to0.95
04:24:33.020shut up and like like and like thinking it's okay to be like borderline verbally and physically0.97
04:24:39.740abusive towards women in order to get them to submit i've just seen some talking this is like0.92
04:24:44.940a crazy crazy accusation so hold on let's go accusing you it's like okay but if the if the
04:24:52.120disagreement oh my god the context of the if the prompt is what do you disagree with the show and0.95
04:24:57.540then you say sometimes you're like okay with physical abuse like that's actually retarded0.85
04:25:02.180but so let's dive into that um how when have i ever uh said that physical abuse is like okay0.87
04:25:10.240what i'm not saying that's literally what you just said like you i'm saying like there's who
04:25:15.440well the andrew i i don't know it's like guests that i've who has said i don't know like i said
04:25:20.940i've only seen clips and so what like i don't know i wish i could tell you i'm not saying you
04:25:26.560disagreements with the show so the show is me i think she's talking about the other guy
04:25:32.100which guy andrew wilson andrew wilson has never made any point even adjacent to that it's okay
04:25:40.740to physically abuse a woman never well that's why i said borderline like not borderline like
04:25:45.820there's never been any conversations where uh physical abuse is ever okay but so can you
04:25:51.600articulate why you would say that why i would say what i just said that that he that i feel how do
04:25:58.560you okay what has have i said or if you want to like defer to andrew what have i or andrew said
04:26:05.800that would hint at or suggest that and i think you said something along the lines of that
04:26:12.100physical abuse is okay well no it was just like um i think the
04:26:18.240it's like i think men i don't think you guys think physical abuse is okay i think there's a
04:26:27.680idea that's what you said i i said there's like borderline um but i think borderline it's kind
04:26:33.500of like men it's like the way that you're not a rapist you're a borderline rapist what the way
04:26:40.860women have been like treated on this podcast it perpetuates an idea of like oh my god femme okay0.52
04:26:48.000total i don't think it's feminist total feminist absolutely i'm not feminist and i think you're
04:26:53.340both feminists sometimes speak is very demeaning belittling of women it's demeaning okay give me
04:26:58.540an example um there's a lot of times where i don't think you but i have seen where andrew will yell
04:27:04.100at people and tell people they need to shut the blank up or they i've told people to shut the0.87
04:27:08.000fuck up i personally don't agree with that i don't think a man or a woman should speak to each other0.94
04:27:11.980like that i think we should be careful with our words and i think that even if you feel the need0.98
04:27:16.200to walk on eggshells or you're scared to say something isn't really a good sign i think people
04:27:20.140should feel safe enough to say something without feeling like they're going to have to be yelled
04:27:24.360at or cussed out or belittled or even made look at as if they were dumb like absolutely well if0.97
04:27:30.300somebody says something we can't respect without doing that i think if somebody says something dumb0.98
04:27:34.000then you can obviously address the dumb thing in which they said but sometimes usually if somebody0.98
04:27:40.460is saying something i disagree with i don't say shut the fuck up in that context i'll say shut0.99
04:27:46.440the fuck up if somebody is being belligerent they're over talking even whether it's me or0.97
04:27:51.600other guests they're they're interrupting other people uh it's also quite rare i have said it but0.99
04:27:58.000it's quite rare i'll tell someone to like shut up or shut the fuck up uh but i'm going to go ahead0.94
04:28:03.080and bite the bullet on that and say i have i have indeed pull your pull your thing down please pull0.97
04:28:08.220it down don't switch the camera angle um i have indeed uh been terse am i using that let me google0.99
04:28:16.660that shit what does that mean like like blunt or uh using you know what i'm using that uh or uh0.72
04:28:24.260using very few words in the way that is brief direct or seemingly rude kind of using it's uh0.99
04:28:30.720well i am terse but not as it relates to like um telling someone to shut the fuck up i guess0.96
04:28:36.980yeah sometimes you need to tell someone to shut the fuck up like if they're just being rude and0.70
04:28:42.680disruptive and like you've told them 10 times to stop interrupting whether it be me or somebody0.94
04:28:46.960else you got to tell them to shut the fuck up yeah it is podcast also also this it is your podcast0.93
04:28:52.620but you have such a huge like you know you're reaching so many people why not why not influence0.94
04:28:58.140in a more respectful way this idea it's not respectful to continue to interrupt yes thank
04:29:04.320you no i agree with that i agree with that but i still think that he doesn't need to use
04:29:08.340use enough let me ask as like a christian or as a christian or an lgs what do we disagree with
04:29:13.800and there's a freedom to answer but yeah i'm just this idea that like i will like
04:29:18.400this idea that because i will be aggressive just because someone disagree if someone's disagreeing
04:29:25.560with me in like a respectful way or somebody's saying something i disagree with i may very
04:29:31.280strongly advocate for my own position i might i might do so in a uh bold and impassioned way0.73
04:29:38.980but it's not i usually don't resort to shut the fuck up if somebody's just saying something that0.99
04:29:45.720is uh dumb as you said or that is disagreeable the shut the shut the fuck up comes in when they're0.99
04:29:53.020like interrupting continuously or they're being obnoxious or they're like about to say some like1.00
04:30:00.100shit that's platform uh it's gonna get us fucking banned on youtube or some shit0.92
04:30:06.020okay wait wait but okay go ahead i was just gonna say if you've only seen clips how do you have the0.99
04:30:11.960context to it because there was probably a lot more building up to it in order for him to be
04:30:17.420that blunt or brutal with the panelist and also like before i came here i was sure to watch
04:30:23.920so many full length shows even if they're eight hours it might take me a few days but i literally
04:30:30.340will watch the entire thing because context is very important you can't take something from a
04:30:34.880clip and then say oh you're x y and z because it's not true clips also like wasn't jesus like
04:30:42.120in the temple like knocking over tables and uh what was he doing like like how did he have a whip0.79
04:30:49.360or something and like the pharisees i don't fucking know but like and he called he called0.99
04:30:54.440them vipers which like back then is a like if you insult somebody you got to fucking like kill them0.96
04:30:59.880basically but um okay i want to go through it one by one though so there's like i i wish i wrote it0.98
04:31:06.140down you started by saying that the podcast exalts men over women that men and women are not equal
04:31:13.480is that correct uh yeah yeah especially like i've seen to like only fans girls it's like you're the0.99
04:31:19.440scum of the earth but it's like they're human you know i i mean i usually don't make like0.90
04:31:26.460don't call them scum of the earth or like some equivalent insults i might call them like1.00
04:31:35.280degenerate from time to time but yeah you would have to agree with me that sex workers are0.99
04:31:40.020degenerate i do believe it is a sin and it's very damaging to society it's sexual from certainly
04:31:46.360from a by the way i'm agnostic you're a christian you should be writing harder i'm more christian0.97
04:31:52.660than christians only fans sex work is sexual immorality it is y'all should be writing and0.53
04:32:00.000they need to repair how is the agnostic i'll even defend christianity harder than a lot of christians0.97
04:47:02.220Well, from my own experience of seeing my grandparents, my parents, my brothers, they're exponentially happier than they would have been otherwise.
04:47:10.040The pitfalls are, in the event of a divorce, if the man is the breadwinner, then there are going to be certainly some negative ramifications.
04:47:25.660There are certainly some pitfalls that even Christian men encounter.
04:47:33.560Christian women do indeed divorce their husbands.
04:47:37.460I believe at lower rates than the general population.0.75
04:51:34.020Like, you just don't have the piece of paper.
04:51:36.140But I truly believe there's a different type of love that comes when you make that promise before God and to, you know, legally to the world and let them know.
05:09:45.260that there is a woman so stupendous so beautiful so everything that i want and if i have to marry
05:09:54.780her to get her it's possible but also realistically speaking i'm chubby and i'm 37 and i've got like
05:10:02.940facial i've got my face is kind of red and i got dandruff i'm not exactly banging supermodels
05:10:10.280like i bang women who are i'm attracted to but it's not exactly like victoria's secret models0.87
05:10:16.160are like sliding into my dms oh my god brian let me suck you know personality is a big thing right1.00
05:10:21.860for most women this is what i said when you need to talk to yourself nicely because that shit1.00
05:10:27.040really doesn't matter brian what doesn't matter like you saying you're chubby and you don't get0.99
05:10:31.480bitches that doesn't matter looks matter okay look no not all women i'm not i've been with0.96
05:10:36.420I'm not, like, crying at night, like, oh, my God, I feel so, I mean, I feel like I need to lose weight a little, not just a little bit, but it's just true.1.00
05:19:21.600I don't think $1,300 is – it depends on your state, I guess.
05:19:25.300I don't think it's necessarily extremely exorbitant, but in certain states, they'll do it based off of your income.
05:19:30.720Like California, there's basically no limit, and it's going to be based off your income.0.61
05:19:34.640So if you're like a super high earner and you have one child, you could conceivably be paying a woman like $10,000 a month for a child, which is completely ridiculous.
05:19:44.660Child support should have, I think, some sort of cutoff.0.70
05:19:48.940There should be some, I think, just some maximum amount.
05:19:52.440If you make $10 million, you make $1 million.
05:19:55.700If you want to voluntarily do more, but this idea that the government's going to come in and basically make this girl who you got pregnant, essentially your business partner and take 10, 20% of your income, completely ridiculous.0.94
06:05:25.500this person is she's just saying it like in the sense like of something that is like extreme like
06:05:31.900like like you know abuse child abuse that is like oh no absolutely not she didn't say that
06:05:37.180but what she's saying is no i don't think that's right she's not when she's using her example
06:05:43.020but would you date somebody i'm giving you that before she's using her example of like oh no like
06:05:49.340that's what i'm saying is i don't define them like let's say someone did something i wouldn't
06:05:54.460I wouldn't date them because I wouldn't take it into consideration, but I'm not going to define them as that, or I'm not going to judge them by that.
06:06:00.340But if you're getting uncomfortable by somebody's past, you're clearly, clearly, Brian.
06:06:03.280You can disagree and still have respect for someone.
07:00:42.660you know if they're uncut cut if they have a small penis big whatever curving to the left whatever0.98
07:00:47.440it is i don't think people should be shamed for their genitalia women should not be shamed for0.94
07:00:51.060their genitalia it's normal for women to have outies um it doesn't mean that they're run through0.99
07:00:57.320and they've been fucked by a bunch of guys that's fake news that's that's bullshit oh she that1.00
07:01:01.640happens because she fucked a lot of guys no that's retarded um the idea that women are any less1.00
07:01:06.320valuable because of their body count is also like i think that's the main controversial topic0.99
07:01:12.380That's a good point you bring up. So I think that, I think you had stepped away and I was making the point on this and I'll quickly just reiterate it. So when we're talking about value, I'll preface this by saying, and I think the other women here already heard it, but men and women, undoubtedly, unequivocally, undeniably, did I already say that? Sorry.
07:01:36.140unequivocally have equal inherent value okay this is my true blue genuine position men and women are
07:01:46.220equal in moral value and human value in uh in you're just inherent value that's undeniable
07:01:53.080okay um whether you're um beautiful or not beautiful or uh you do only fans or you don't
07:02:01.320do you're whatever you're a christian and virgin waiting for marriage 45 mormon whatever
07:02:06.940Equal inherent value, equal moral value as a human being, intrinsic value.
07:02:12.360But when we're using the term value, I think this is what maybe is triggering to some people,
07:02:17.560is they think we're talking about, it's talking past each other.
07:02:21.640You think you're talking about the person's worth and value as intrinsic value.
07:02:28.420When in these discussions, when we're talking about value, like a high value man or a high value woman,
07:02:33.640woman, which is, they're kind of cringy terms, but, and I don't really use them.
07:02:38.600Someone's value from a dating perspective, um, that can vary. So if a woman is like exceptionally0.97
07:02:47.720beautiful or if a man, even if a man's really handsome, I would argue handsome men who are
07:02:54.560tall and rich and have great personalities are going to be more valuable, deemed as more valuable
07:03:00.800to women from a dating perspective in the dating marketplace they're certainly going to be more0.99
07:03:05.220desirable than like uh unfortunate looking short obese bald small dick like um broke bad personality0.99
07:03:18.940non-con like all these think of all the negative characteristics that women dislike in men0.99
07:03:23.960compare them to the all the positive characteristics that women do like in men
07:03:27.940that man is going to be more valuable to women or specific women and i mean i don't think you're
07:03:40.340gonna have a really convincing argument uh against that so it's not inherent value it's not your
07:03:48.220intrinsic value it's within the paradigm of your value in the dating marketplace like for example
07:03:54.900um if i'm in a relationship my girlfriend has more value to me than some random chick off the
07:04:02.260street yeah i get she's more valuable but like in terms of their moral value i would never
07:04:08.220necessarily say that morally this person uh is has more intrinsic value but i i value her more
07:04:17.820she's more valuable to me i don't know if that makes sense or no it makes sense i agree and i
07:04:23.460think uh like you're being here talking to you has changed my perspective um on the show i think
07:04:31.020your audience may choose to interpret things differently based on their own pain and their
07:04:38.300own woundings and their own insecurities i don't know if there's really like strong evidence for
07:04:43.200this i mean comment sections mainly well yeah but i think if you go on like any any comment section
07:04:48.480anywhere you're going to have negativity youtube is notorious for negativity in the comment section
07:04:53.880even like this is a controversial politics adjacent podcast you're going to like go watch
07:05:00.640a video game channel and you're going to find negativity in the comment section you're going
07:05:06.000to go watch a makeup tutorial there's going to be negativity so it's just like that's kind of
07:05:09.680internet um i wouldn't like be too zeroed in on the audience um but like i would never suggest0.97
07:05:18.080to my audience, for example, Hey guys, you should hate women. Hating women is okay. That's absolutely0.53
07:05:23.640not acceptable. Uh, I don't think you should hate, you certainly shouldn't hate women. Um,
07:05:30.580I it's okay. Keep in mind. It's okay to disagree with women. I think it's okay to have criticisms
07:05:36.640over sort of generalized dating things or societal things. That's okay. I think it's okay to have
07:05:43.280criticisms, but having just like in having like a gender hatred for women, I think that's
07:05:50.420completely unacceptable. I don't think it's healthy for you. I don't think it's healthy for
07:05:54.040anyone really. Um, although I would say, you know, you, you actually, there's this,
07:06:00.940I think you were talking about Tate clavicular me. I probably get lumped in with like the
07:06:05.980manosphere. I think that's, what does that even mean? It's like some turn. It's manosphere is
07:06:11.540basically like incel it's just like alt-right red pill it's just like a label they want to put on
07:06:17.960you just like incel to try to kind of brush you away a little bit but i think a bigger problem
07:06:25.280is the femisphere there's a bigger problem i think the femisphere i think they're both you look what
07:06:31.060they may both be problems but you look at what's on tiktok and for i for some reason maybe this is
07:06:39.700Cause I like react to these and I'll like post them on Twitter or whatever.
07:06:43.680My algorithms, I might as well be like a blue haired feminist in terms of my1.00
08:53:30.420I made no guarantees, and I think you can back me up on this.
08:53:33.760I made no guarantees that I would, I gave her a courtesy and I gave her a grace, but I said if she went there, I said if she went there, I would go there.
08:53:42.480Yeah, you said if she brought up the conversation, but she didn't, all she said is she defended Jesus because you were talking about having sex with Jesus.
08:53:49.680And you want to go on the defense against the LARPer who wants to sit there and judge me when she's in defiance of the very thing that she thinks she holds.0.98