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00:00:16.320 quick announcements by the way sorry for the delay uh we had uh we had a couple delays so i do

00:00:22.560 apologize we had uh originally we're gonna have 10 on the panel but a a raging feminist rage quit

00:00:30.340 it was definitely a rage quit uh definitely a rage quit so what i'm gonna do is on our discord discord.gg

00:00:37.500 slash whatever we have the the footage of the rage quit i don't have to i didn't have time before the

00:00:44.420 show to get it posted we're already running late i'm gonna post the footage on our discord discord.gg

00:00:49.240 slash whatever if you want to see the rage quit massive feminist rage quit

00:00:55.160 okay it was a bit mild it was a mild it was a mild rage quit but she did she did come up to the studio

00:01:03.600 and then she got a little i don't know scared cold feet she saw the big labia matter sweater and

00:01:09.940 she knew what did she say felicity like it wasn't her her family or her vibe yeah um she obviously

00:01:17.880 did not have big big labia energy

00:01:21.160 so uh so i apologize deeply deeply for the delay i blame it all on her though so anyways um this

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00:04:48.000 instagram brian atlas x and on twitter i'm brian atlas check out my non-profit movement big labia

00:04:53.480 matter BLM for short because all labia can't matter until big labia matter uh we're fighting to ban

00:05:00.380 cosmetic labiaplasty labiaplasty plasty plasty plasty plasty procedures over 10 000 labia plasties

00:05:09.680 plasties a year in the usa last time uh as someone who only dates women with large labia this is a very

00:05:15.880 personal cause for me uh it's really the pressing issue of our time oh if you can't catch the full

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00:05:48.440 a bunch of other stuff on there if you're my caucasian you will join the discord and in this tab here on

00:05:52.980 the behind the scenes tab is precisely where i'm going to be uploading the uh it was it was caught on

00:06:00.960 security camera the rage quit from that feminist it will be posted behind the scenes i with the rage quit

00:06:07.120 very severe rage quit she is very disrespectful to my female staff she's disrespectful to felicity back

00:06:13.920 there she's disrespectful to mary and disrespectful to all of you because she denied us an opportunity

00:06:19.860 to have a very fair and unbiased conversation with her so anyways um disclaimer the views expressed by the

00:06:30.000 guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel oh and for the feminist rage quit i'll be

00:06:34.480 posting that probably tomorrow uh after the show so it's gonna be super late or tomorrow okay

00:06:40.000 without further ado after that really long-winded introduction we're gonna have the guests introduce

00:06:46.620 themselves so please tell us your name age occupation where you're from in education go ahead

00:06:51.480 i'm mandy and i'm from what the fuck yo that laptop came out of nowhere that was crazy okay sorry my bad

00:06:57.980 just too strong all right i'm mandy from vancouver canada and i'm a stripper and only fans age 25

00:07:07.280 all right and any education any college uh no no nothing did you well i went to high school i

00:07:16.120 finished that and i took some courses for real estate and stuff but nothing too smart do they have

00:07:22.100 college in canada no yeah we do like do you guys still get around on like horses and stuff or yeah

00:07:28.560 okay i don't know it's like third world country right yeah how did you know like vancouver very i

00:07:34.780 moved from iran and honestly vancouver is has more third world in it when did you move from iran when i

00:07:41.460 was 17 oh uh so you speak farsi or wait what yeah is it farsi yeah i speak farsi okay do you also

00:07:48.980 do they speak arabic there too or no we don't like it's farsi okay well i got it i had it right

00:07:54.720 the first time you don't like arabic no we don't like arabs in iran it's very persians and

00:07:59.620 arabs have like a very disrespectful to call me an arab well i was asking if you speak the language

00:08:04.500 no i'm kidding no we don't we kind of do in school but not really but they teach you but because

00:08:09.740 the quran or whatever but no that's right it's an islamic country we don't speak it though it's an

00:08:13.540 islamic country though right yeah i mean we don't want it to be but it is oh okay who's we

00:08:21.480 all the iranians all the iranians okay gotcha and uh you said you moved to canada when you were 17

00:08:29.900 yes like you did you legally or okay with a boat no my mom got married to a canadian and we moved

00:08:37.920 here okay got it all right what about you my name is maddie i'm 23 uh what was the other education

00:08:46.240 i finished ninth grade and that's it i do only fans you didn't graduate from high school no i didn't i

00:08:54.260 got kicked out i did get a ged wait you got kicked out of high school uh-huh okay um you do of uh-huh

00:09:02.360 yeah okay um that's that's about it and where are you from georgia georgia uh why did you get

00:09:09.140 kicked out of high school i was never there because i had a lot of health problems so they

00:09:13.820 kicked me out i didn't show up ever health problems i did have health problems i was on oxygen and stuff

00:09:21.280 you had polio or what did you know i didn't have polio i had mold that grew in my lungs

00:09:27.260 it's called aspergillose aspergillose aspergillus aspergillus aspergillus you can look it up i swear

00:09:34.940 you got aspergers you're autistic i am autistic but so it's like double double trouble it's a double

00:09:42.180 homicide yeah okay so you got so you didn't get wait i got kicked out because i was absent too long

00:09:49.060 i was in a hospital that wasn't in my state i see they had me on hospital homebound for a long time

00:09:54.780 but that only works if you're in your state and then i got transferred to florida and they couldn't

00:09:59.660 do it so they kicked me out okay it wasn't behavioral problems no i mean i had those too

00:10:04.620 but no gotcha yeah all right what about you i am josie marcellino i am 30 years old i'm a television

00:10:11.780 producer and a stand-up comedian uh i have three bachelor's degrees but i'm 30 so that's that doesn't

00:10:19.520 get brought up much um speaking of being a stand-up comedian you can i'll be in uh charlotte north

00:10:26.000 carolina at the comedy zone this coming friday and saturday uh july 11th and 12th and then i will be

00:10:31.820 at new york comedy club on july 17th and you can find all my dates on my instagram at josie marcellino

00:10:38.100 and you said you're 30 right yes i am you said you have three three bachelor bachelor's degrees in

00:10:43.440 what uh film and television photography and english screenwriting really all from the same

00:10:49.740 university yeah which one uh towson it was a small university in maryland maryland yeah got it what

00:10:56.900 about you my name is emily i'm 22 years old i am a brit now i live in orange california i have about

00:11:04.260 to complete my degree in psychology and currently i'm a coach who specializes in attachment theory and

00:11:09.380 dating okay and sorry you said you're from where again i missed that part orange california orange

00:11:15.800 california okay and you education psychology you got a ba or bs a ba i completed this summer

00:11:23.540 gotcha from where from loyola loyola okay loyola mary mary mount is that no the sister one in new

00:11:30.580 orleans oh okay what about you hi my name is lucy i am 31 years old i am from chicago and i am a data

00:11:41.660 scientist and i have my bachelor's in statistics and working on my master's degree in data science

00:11:47.880 at the moment and i'm also a content creator as well all right and you're from chicago like grew up

00:11:53.660 there yeah so i was born in china but i grew up in chicago got it okay and you also do

00:12:00.460 correct yes okay all right what about you hi i'm marcelina i currently live in la i'm 25 i'm a

00:12:07.660 bartender i do only fans model content creator um i am a college dropout but i'm like working on tech

00:12:13.580 courses what were when you were in college what were you studying and where i i i'm from new jersey

00:12:20.100 new york new jersey but rockers no i went to community college or is county okay or is county

00:12:24.960 community um i was doing business administration then i flip-flopped to computer computer science

00:12:30.520 so okay what about you i'm holly i'm 62 years old i'm an author i'm an artist i was just in my first

00:12:40.840 feature film um jackass forever i've been wait no way you were a jackass yeah forever yeah when did

00:12:51.840 that come out residuals are beautiful miracle money coming in um i've done about about game shows

00:12:59.760 wait you didn't know that you were what what was your bit or scene in jackass it was real

00:13:07.360 what's the guy's name johnny knoxville yeah right they lied to me they told they they lied to me this

00:13:15.520 is a punk thing right they told me that i was um hosting a big huge company party and they had me go

00:13:23.760 up uh they said holly can you please just direct traffic really quick to the catering guys so you

00:13:30.200 know we can get a move on so they take me up into this hillside and it's just me uh two guys working

00:13:36.320 on the uh electrical lines and then a car came up and i told it to come around and then all of a sudden

00:13:43.440 the guy that's in the electrical in the electrical car waves to me goes i'll be right back and i'm

00:13:48.000 thinking dude your buddy's right there what are you leaving for right and so i'm standing there and

00:13:54.480 all of a sudden the the box that the guy's working on oh the box of the guys um working on uh backs up

00:14:02.000 against the pole and he screams to me hey can you go over to the uh car the truck and move the the gears

00:14:09.280 so the box will go back and i'm thinking i don't know anything about this electrical stuff i'll

00:14:15.840 i'll try and help you but i'm not really sure and uh so i go over there and i hit the one button and

00:14:22.000 it turns the cart to the side and i'm going oh my god because he's hanging on the side well each time i

00:14:29.600 hit the button it finally flipped over sparks are coming out of it and the dude's hanging by his foot

00:14:35.600 and it's just him and i on this mountain side and there's nobody around and i know the dude's been

00:14:42.000 electrocuted and i'm screaming going sorry okay go ahead sorry sorry go ahead go ahead sorry finish

00:14:50.320 your story well you asked and i i don't know how to help him he's dangling from this bucket by his ankle

00:14:58.960 flailing around i know he's been electrocuted because the sparks have you know come out and my

00:15:06.080 friend passed away doing that right so i am flipping out going this guy is dying on me and this guy is

00:15:16.400 dying on me and finally his friend it starts walking up the path i'm screaming at him going give me your

00:15:23.360 phone give me your phone call emergency and he's going no i'm going loser call the ambulance i don't

00:15:31.280 want to let the guy know that he's been electrocuted and he's burning inside right because i don't want

00:15:37.040 to put him in panic and the guy won't let me and so i finally just break down and start crying because

00:15:43.280 i'm going you're gonna die right here on me and you're not even aware you're gonna die and they

00:15:49.760 punked me on that um can you believe it i'm gonna rent that movie tonight what's your um do you have

00:15:57.360 like a actor name or something code name i don't know the movie is jackass forever forever do you have

00:16:05.680 an imdb credit i don't know what i have because i don't see you on the imdb credit for caster crew

00:16:11.520 well i know everybody in america has called me and told me that they've seen me on it i don't even

00:16:16.560 watch the series because it's like i'm not who has seen the film chat who has seen the film was

00:16:22.160 she jackass forever were you in the there's a whole freaking segment that's at least six minutes long

00:16:29.680 was it a scene yeah was she in it i'm one of the main you're one of the main characters well

00:16:37.920 i don't know how how they format the movie i've never seen it but i've had other producers call me

00:16:44.480 go holly i saw you in it i've had neighbors tell me i've had people stop me at the market was

00:16:51.760 okay people are saying she she wasn't it oh okay all right i'm serious i'm not lying well because

00:16:57.200 also the other thing is there's like with all the jackass movies there's like jackass 2.5 where it's

00:17:02.960 like the the cut the stuff that didn't make the you know it's like the extra footage yeah i don't follow

00:17:08.800 him so i don't know all right you know i mean i didn't know even who who he was johnny okay so uh

00:17:14.880 you're on you're in jackass i i met uh those guys a long time ago i wish i would have punked him back

00:17:22.880 it would have been beautiful if i had a little insight now but i was in such shock that uh but you

00:17:29.040 know what i've had residuals for years you get residuals from that it's beautiful it goes worldwide

00:17:34.720 and what happens is anytime it plays you get a check in the mail it's beautiful

00:17:41.600 so for like 20 bucks or something are you kidding you know how many teenagers watch those movies

00:17:48.400 worldwide people are addicted to them i've found out it was like miracle money it was really in fact i got

00:17:56.480 a check yesterday for for how much i'm not telling you it's all top secret pull it up uh i actually you

00:18:04.080 know it's funny i met uh i met johnny knoxville 10 years ago in amsterdam we were doing a promotion

00:18:10.720 for their jackass presents bad grandpa thing why don't you pull that up nick we'll put play put the

00:18:16.720 audio on it all right go ahead oh i'm johnny knoxville welcome to whatever so he did an intro for us

00:18:25.520 oh that's young brian

00:18:32.240 and they put me in michael hunt you can call me mike oh i see what you're doing

00:18:37.200 yes you go up to him and uh what uh and you like excuse me ma'am i'm too old to cut the mustard

00:18:45.680 but i can still lick the jar all right you can you can pause it welcome to all right so yeah we uh we

00:18:53.280 both met uh a kaibaka i think for the gifted uh 20 memberships we both met uh the jackass team

00:19:00.880 that's cool uh okay education no i have sorry i missed that part i told you that i um

00:19:10.240 back in in the ancient history they used to hand paint billboards down along the sunset strip and

00:19:16.000 around all the movie studios and i uh studied with um oh they better be nice

00:19:24.800 studied at foster and klyzer and then i took a couple of courses up at pasadena art center

00:19:30.880 okay do you have a bachelor's degree or no no okay all right what about you hi my name is eleanor i'm 27

00:19:39.040 from long beach california and i am a teacher all right and um education i have a bachelor's

00:19:46.160 in psychology is it a bachelor of arts or bachelor of science yes it's a ba ba all right ba in

00:19:53.280 psychology um and when did you from what university i graduated from cal state long beach cal state long

00:20:01.280 beach okay how when was that i graduated in 2018 and i know the years kind of don't add up but it's

00:20:08.000 because i graduated when i was 20 so i got my associates when i was in high school so i was

00:20:15.040 able to only do two years of university makes sense makes sense um can you tell me like three things you

00:20:23.440 remember from your psychology education in college so you mean like what i learned or just experience yeah

00:20:36.000 what you what you learned hmm so i would say when i went to psychology that's actually the first time

00:20:46.160 i ever learned about gaslighting when i was in school at the time i never really knew what that was

00:20:52.480 until i took a class about it and then maybe a couple years later i start hearing that term everywhere

00:20:59.040 like everyone's talking about gaslighting and i'm like whoa everybody understands psychology now and

00:21:04.960 then mostly just like like the typical psychologists from like back then like skinner and freud we

00:21:12.320 learned about their theories and the different things that they do what i was mostly interested in

00:21:18.640 though was definitely like the social psychology and kind of like the perception and sensation um

00:21:26.640 the most the thing that i found most interesting from my sensation perception class is that

00:21:32.880 so in physics if a tree falls and hits the ground it's gonna make a sound because that's how physics

00:21:42.320 works but in psychology because no one was there to hear the sound technically the sound was not heard

00:21:52.000 so in physics if a tree falls in the forest and no one was there to hear it it still made a sound but in

00:21:57.680 psychology because no one was there to hear it and interpret the sound then there was no sound so

00:22:03.520 that was a crazy fact that i learned that like kind of tripped me out of it yeah wait in in psychology

00:22:10.720 the island that in my perception sensation class it's um a type of class you take in psychology wait so

00:22:17.040 question is this you mean so right now i'm not in china does china not exist or am i misunderstanding i think

00:22:27.840 you're misunderstanding

00:22:32.560 but what if there's a sound going in china right now well the people in china will hear the sound so

00:22:40.400 because they hear the sound and it interprets into their brain then the sound is there but what if

00:22:47.920 there's a squirrel that hears the tree fall well then the squirrel hears the sound and then the

00:22:55.920 squirrel's brain is interpreting well there's ants everywhere so well i'm i'm not sure if ants really

00:23:03.120 have like that power of hearing but you know if the ants is there let me google this can ants hear

00:23:11.200 yes ants can sense vibrations and sounds all right well then if an ant is there to sense it

00:23:16.000 then in the cycle i mean if a tree falls in the forest i mean let's be real there's ants in the forest

00:23:21.920 well then the ants will hear it so then so i think um it doesn't matter who the subject is as long

00:23:30.560 as there's a subject to hear it then the brain will interpret the sound does that make sense

00:23:40.640 that's what you learned in psychology that's it one of the one of the facts that stuck with me

00:23:45.120 that was like seven eight years ago so i'm happy it stuck all right nice and uh where are you from

00:23:53.600 you're from la i'm from long beach long beach all right all right guys that's everybody's intro uh

00:23:58.720 you know i need to do another thing here too guys i'm thinking about there's this cat that's been

00:24:05.040 visiting me for three months three months now i'm gonna let the viewers decide if i adopt her

00:24:15.120 nick let's pull up the photos i took some photos there's there's one photo uh she came to visit me at

00:24:22.960 my house next oh you have to have her next she picked very next did you name her yet i named her

00:24:32.320 april next she's yours and then there's one more there she is all right so chat chat you get to decide

00:24:43.680 now she's gonna be i'll bring her in the studio too like she's gonna lay down the law in the studio

00:24:49.520 you know so chat should we uh you know the whatever cat her name's april oh cute so i'm

00:24:59.600 thinking i'm gonna you know who knows though maybe she belongs to somebody else i don't want her to

00:25:03.760 cheat she chose you yeah it doesn't matter but maybe she's got like a family but because i started

00:25:08.800 feeding her right then she likes you better maybe she's an abusive family saved she looks really young

00:25:14.400 she doesn't have a collar or anything on her no collar take her to the vet see if she's got a chip

00:25:17.680 maybe there's a microchip is what i'm thinking the cow distribution center so uh yeah i think

00:25:25.840 i think i might might adopt her you've already named her that'd be sweet you've already named

00:25:32.000 her she's very friendly she's very nice um anyways so a little update there the whatever family is

00:25:36.960 growing so going around the table once more what is everybody's relationship status so are you single

00:25:43.520 uh relationship whatever if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest

00:25:48.480 relationship you've been in go ahead i've been single for two years and my longest relationship

00:25:53.760 been like five or six months five or six months the one that ended two years ago how long was that one

00:26:00.720 like five and a half i only been in like four and they've have they all been five to six months or some

00:26:07.280 of them shorter yes they've all been well i only been in five relationships total and they all been

00:26:13.440 around five or six months okay of the four you said wait five relationships like fully like yeah in

00:26:20.400 total five relationships four of them were like five or six months once was a little who breaks up with

00:26:24.480 who um i break up with them so all of your five relationships you've ended all of them yes okay

00:26:31.440 all right any reason or yeah they listen to me wait they what they listen to me what do you mean

00:26:39.680 they listen to me i don't want a man to listen to me so i leave

00:26:46.000 uh give us an example like they they're not like masculine they listen to me i don't like that can you

00:26:52.880 do show us a double bicep real quick wait can you see it oh yeah i just want to say i'll ignore

00:27:00.240 everything that you say if that's what it takes i'll ignore everything you have to say i haven't

00:27:05.920 been jacked since i since i've been jacked i haven't been in a relationship because yeah i just it was

00:27:11.040 yeah since you've been jacked i haven't been in a relationship no not always been jacked no i've been

00:27:15.840 jacked for only a year and a half i started gym a year and a half ago are you on are you natty no i've

00:27:21.600 been i took anivore before anivore yeah i took anivore and clen before nothing how many cycles i had um

00:27:28.720 two and a half cycles the first time i got scared after like four to four weeks i was like i don't

00:27:32.960 want my clit to grow you know oh was it starting to no it hasn't okay the big labia matter movement

00:27:39.520 encompasses i'm not i'm not a support i'm not in support of uh the blm that you have or or the

00:27:45.360 other one or the other one that's why for the first one um for the first one because i like a small

00:27:51.040 clit i have a small clit and i like small clits oh well i mean the the labia isn't exactly the

00:27:56.160 clitoris yeah true i don't like like labias are you bi no yeah i mean i tried girl over here

00:28:03.680 i tried being bi before but honestly it's not in my natural instincts it felt like something

00:28:08.560 was missing and it was um male genital i think for me yeah so you have encountered female i have

00:28:16.800 and it was something missing and it was male genitals you have you have a genitalia preference

00:28:22.240 yeah i like men i like i like very masculine men but you haven't dated any it sounds like i

00:28:28.800 haven't and it's really sad i think it's a geographic problem because you're in canada

00:28:33.120 yeah i definitely feel that too because i work at a club and every time there's like americans

00:28:37.920 they're a lot more masculine i like american men canadian canada canada is extremely um

00:28:46.720 it's a little soy it's too soy extremely very sweet so you basically can you give us an example

00:28:52.400 though of one of these instances you know what actually here i'm gonna come back to that so the

00:28:57.360 guys listen to you yeah we'll come back to that okay um so but you've been single for two years

00:29:04.640 i've been single for two years have you been celibate for two years um yeah i tried to hook up like

00:29:08.720 a couple months ago and that was the first time after two years and i realized why i'm celibate and i'm

00:29:13.440 i'm yeah what what did you realize um i don't know i just realized that because of my um my job

00:29:23.280 the men that i attract it's not the men that i want and i'm not willing to be in a relationship

00:29:28.880 because of my job with men that i don't respect because that means i'm disrespecting myself by

00:29:34.560 being with the men that i don't respect and it's the consequences of my own actions

00:29:38.080 kat thank you for the gifted 50 memberships uh oh by the way guys our audio is has been bugged we

00:29:44.800 were that's one of the other reasons we were a little running behinds we were having some audio

00:29:48.160 uh difficulties so like dings from gifted isn't gonna work so i'm just gonna have to shout you

00:29:54.400 guys out and then the tts's are gonna just they'll be pulled up at the same rate but somebody's we're

00:30:00.800 just gonna have to read them uh so you say because you're doing only fans it's difficult for you well i

00:30:04.960 just started doing only fans like last month before that i was a stripper for seven years okay

00:30:09.520 um so you started stripping at 18 then i started stripping right at 18 i did not give life a chance

00:30:16.160 and wait when did you move to canada when i was 17. it wasn't something that i wanted to do but yeah it

00:30:24.880 is what it is wait so hold on what do you mean it wasn't something you wanted to do well when i moved

00:30:30.320 to canada were you trafficked no i wasn't trafficked i'm never a victim it was my choice it was my

00:30:35.920 choice but it was because of circumstances that i was in but what's it was my choice well we moved

00:30:41.120 to canada from iran when i was like almost 17. can you can you um is stripping allowed in iran no i

00:30:48.080 would get killed you'd get honor or what is it called yeah okay yeah anyways so within a month of

00:30:56.000 moving no within a year from the iranian regime within a year you would have been unalived yeah

00:31:02.720 for stripping you start stripping i have death drive okay uh so cool yep well yeah the situation

00:31:11.920 was basically i moved there and um when i turned 18 my mom's husband kind of just vanished and i don't

00:31:18.320 speak english at the time i was 18 i didn't really speak english and i didn't really like i wanted to go

00:31:23.120 to school i wanted to go to army and i wanted to go become a police officer but i didn't speak english

00:31:27.360 and i couldn't go to army because i wasn't a citizen and i wasn't gonna go work at mcdonald's because

00:31:32.560 my mom doesn't have a job she didn't speak english so i decided that i went and stripped one night when

00:31:36.880 i was 18 i didn't even look good and i made 1200 and i was like i mean it's better than being homeless

00:31:44.080 and it's better than going back to a shitty country that i don't support so that was my situation of why

00:31:49.040 any other strippers at the table strip strip i have danced before you've danced also okay uh all

00:31:56.320 right cool and uh you started of a month ago i had i had of before but i took it two years um off from

00:32:04.400 social media sure and then i'm back again for a month now and so you said doing all this though

00:32:09.840 being involved in sex work has made it difficult for you to get a relationship yeah okay why is that

00:32:16.320 that i mean it's pretty obvious like yeah but explain it and basically men get to see my body

00:32:23.520 and i don't think anyone that is willing to date me at this point in my life is masculine enough like

00:32:29.440 that's like i i don't know i just feel like it's not really i don't attract the right people for dating

00:32:35.360 when this is what i'm doing because that alone is not what i'm looking for in a man

00:32:39.600 what what is it that you're not looking for in a man you'll be okay with my job like it's it's

00:32:47.680 basically it's my job that is so you have a job yeah but if the guy's okay with your job

00:32:57.760 yeah you won't date him it took me a few relationships to figure that out

00:33:02.400 yeah but so hold on i need him to save me i need men's savior

00:33:13.520 but so it is the case then that you need a guy who needs to be well you don't want a guy who's

00:33:20.480 okay with your job yeah but you have said job so you obviously can't date the guys who are not okay

00:33:27.440 with your job yeah because they don't want to date you yeah i tried quitting my job and when i go out

00:33:33.120 there and men are just very like they're not as masculine as i want them to be so i'm like okay if

00:33:39.360 i go out in a world without my job i'm poor now i don't make as much money even though i'm at a point

00:33:44.240 right now i could stop my job because i own three properties they're like worth a million each i can't

00:33:49.440 retire now but um i've been serving for seven years i've never done drugs or alcohol so i saved

00:33:54.640 everything so i'm going to point now hold on you are on the juice you've been juicing well yeah

00:34:00.160 that's drugs i mean my liver is pretty healthy so i was like you know what let's just enough but it's

00:34:07.360 like yeah can we see like a try maybe a little tricep i don't know it's not that big right now i

00:34:12.400 think yeah the lighting's not doing anything favors it's just yeah it's not that good i've been working

00:34:19.680 out for a year and a half i'm not jet that jacked i saw a photo of you at like a bodybuilding

00:34:25.200 convention yeah and i don't know if you were there's this one guy i forgot his name togi yeah

00:34:32.080 yeah and then i don't know if you met sam solek he did did you like where are they masculine is that

00:34:39.200 what you're looking for um i don't know them personally so i don't know i don't was that the

00:34:44.960 one night stand though that you were talking about no i haven't had a one night stand or you

00:34:48.400 said there was a hookup or something no it wasn't uh no no no no no no didn't she say that a couple

00:34:54.000 months ago there was a hookup no it was i'm not saying no to that i'm saying no to it wasn't anyone

00:34:58.480 in those pictures i wouldn't post my gotcha hookup picture gotcha okay yeah what about you

00:35:05.760 what was the original question uh what's your relationship status i'm married

00:35:09.120 no you're not yes i am for the second time uh show me your hands i don't wear my ring

00:35:18.560 oh that's convenient um he was on her phone background i did see it he was well it could

00:35:24.560 just be a boyfriend that's true why don't you wear a ring i just don't like it do you have a ring i do

00:35:29.600 own one okay um and i own three were you three rings okay uh you were married before though yes i got

00:35:37.600 married at 18. okay uh let's do a bit of timeline here so your first marriage uh how long were you

00:35:44.240 together with this person i how long were we together in full or married together and then

00:35:50.480 married we were together for a month and then we got engaged after a month he was in the army okay

00:35:57.600 and then we got married seven months later and then we were married for a year it's almost two years

00:36:06.080 together total yeah who initiated the divorce me why he was crazy okay all right and then

00:36:14.720 that so that was like 18 it just wasn't working you guys met at 18 and that was like we met at 17

00:36:20.800 but yeah okay so you divorced at 19 20 but yeah and then you got married again okay when did you get

00:36:27.920 married at 22 and how long were you were you together for a long period of time before now how long

00:36:32.880 were you together before the marriage a month okay he's also in the military and how long have you

00:36:37.760 been married a year and a half okay and then oh but you were only together for one month you said before

00:36:46.480 yeah did you actually have a ceremony or you just went to the courthouse no we did like a little wedding

00:36:52.160 in my backyard with like some guys from his group in the military and my dad gotcha okay and that was it

00:36:59.440 okay um longest so what's the longest relationship you've been none of those guys i dated this one

00:37:08.160 guy in high school for like five years you got held back wait but hold on you didn't know but like

00:37:14.320 in high school age like i wasn't in school but we met at high school then we dated for a while okay

00:37:18.240 you were mostly just dealing with the health problems yeah but i still i still had a boyfriend

00:37:21.760 got it okay so you're currently married yes um question you're involved in traditional adult

00:37:30.320 content you do only fans you do boy girl content yes girl girl content do all of it okay uh at what

00:37:36.240 age did you start doing that i started stripping at 18 okay and then i switched to only fans when i was

00:37:44.480 like 19 i think 19 okay i didn't strip for long so you did you start stripping midway through your

00:37:53.040 first marriage i started stripping like the day i turned 18 so you said so you got married i got

00:38:02.240 married at 18 but you were dating but i was dating at 17 so like when you first started dating you were

00:38:07.840 not obviously no no okay but he knew i was going to was he okay with it yeah he didn't care he didn't care

00:38:14.000 his sister's a porn star his sister's a porn star uh really famous holly hendrix don't i don't know

00:38:20.480 who who the fuck is that guy okay um cool so he was cool with it though yeah he didn't did he get

00:38:27.760 just curious you might not remember or maybe he didn't tell you uh was he embarrassed or get bullied

00:38:32.960 because his sister was a porn star no it was more like all of his friends like kind of just wanted to

00:38:37.680 like bang a sister that's type of thing um okay odd but okay yeah so he was fine though with you

00:38:46.800 doing porn yeah he did it with me oh he was part of your content that's when you started of f then okay

00:38:54.000 so were you splitting revenue with him or don't even start me on this so when we got divorced i have to

00:39:00.880 pay him alimony and i'm still paying alimony to this day wait hold on but you were only married for a

00:39:06.160 year what state were you in georgia georgia how long do you have to pay him alimony for until

00:39:13.520 november okay tell us so but you got divorced in 2021 or wait i think so how long have you been

00:39:23.600 divorced from him two years three three what year is it 25 25 yeah i think we got divorced in 22 22 i

00:39:32.960 don't know i filed i filed in 21 i think so what's the math on how long you have to pay alimony

00:39:38.080 uh i don't times two basically it was just i had to pay him a lump sum because of the amount of money

00:39:46.400 i made in the year we were married i had to pay him a lump sum and then i had to pay like a specific

00:39:52.000 amount every month until the court ordered amount ended all right so you were the breadwinner in your

00:39:59.280 marriage yes okay how much did you uh pay him total i believe 300 000 uh really yes

00:40:15.120 well i it will be 300 000 when it's over when you're done okay or maybe 250 somewhere in there

00:40:22.080 do you have to pull out my lawyer like do you have a uh usually there's like a court order oh

00:40:29.040 i definitely have the court order can you send it to us if i can have my phone back yeah uh yeah we

00:40:33.920 can we can do that we'll give it to you once we get yeah once you have a free moment okay so that was

00:40:39.680 your first marriage yes you're paying your ex-husband how much per month three thousand three hundred and

00:40:47.120 twenty one dollars a month okay and in total you said it's going to be three hundred thousand how

00:40:50.800 much was the how much was the lump sum that you paid him seventy five thousand dollars paid him 75k

00:40:56.480 no kids though right you don't have any kids okay and then you're married again yes you didn't learn

00:41:02.320 your lesson the first time well i did a prenup this time you got a prenup all right so i did learn my

00:41:08.640 lesson okay um so what's the prenup that i keep my money okay so in the event of a divorce i keep

00:41:18.480 what i come in with and what i've made even throughout the course of the divorce yes you ran this by a

00:41:24.080 lawyer yes because i'm it varies by jurisdiction it was kind of hard with like what it specifically

00:41:31.920 like i know i could be fucked eventually if it's like in the marriage but it was really i wanted to

00:41:38.000 keep everything i came in with is your boyfriend in the industry i'm sorry husband kind of industry

00:41:44.800 yes like he he makes content yes okay he was in the air force when we got married he was in the air

00:41:51.040 force okay was he discharged yeah he just got out at his normal time of getting out was he making

00:41:57.360 adult content while he was in there yeah the air force actually subscribed to my only fans and

00:42:02.640 investigated us and what did they find well he didn't do anything wrong like they they had a tip

00:42:11.360 off that he was like filming with me in uniform which he wasn't he didn't fit we didn't film in

00:42:16.960 uniform but he was filming but he was filming with me while he was active duty why he was active duty

00:42:22.560 yeah but technically that's not against the law no isn't that against like the code of conduct he can't

00:42:28.400 make money off of it he can't have a job that makes him money off of it in the military but i was the

00:42:35.040 one making money off of it not him he had a free account i'm not an expert in like military law but

00:42:40.080 i unfortunately had to deal with him quite a lot but yeah they did a whole like thing on us let me ask

00:42:46.240 the chat is that like is that a uh nick are you able to pull it up over here you know how to do it

00:42:50.960 just show it to us cover up the stream yards uh yo chat is that like if you're in the military

00:42:58.240 and obviously it maybe it differs by branch you're not like you're supposed to conduct yourself in a

00:43:04.880 certain way right like there's codes of conduct in uniform even if you're not in uniform though

00:43:10.400 like for example i think it's if you if there's what is it like if you cheat on your spouse yeah you

00:43:17.920 get in trouble we had something like that happen too we got in trouble for that too um so would

00:43:23.840 it i'm pretty sure you can't be involved in producing adult content while you're in all i can tell

00:43:33.440 you depends on the command we definitely did and he did not end up getting and he got a slap on the

00:43:41.360 wrist conduct rivon says con conduct unbecoming an enlisted was the officer or enlist wide probably

00:43:49.600 wouldn't matter but straight to jag rules we did get a jag lawyer sadly she is right here i'm just

00:43:57.440 i don't know no it's the ucmj that's just for the marine corps that's for the marine corps okay it is

00:44:04.400 i mean it's frowned the chair force has different rules it's frowned upon for sure but they didn't

00:44:11.280 kick him out for it or anything and they didn't tell him to stop they just said don't post in uniform

00:44:17.840 trippy main says no it's not jag over tough i'm sure he's in this chat max says ucmj is for all

00:44:24.720 military well well he wasn't dishonorably discharged though no he wasn't uh so he got a slap on the wrist for

00:44:31.440 the whole thing but they didn't tell me to stop filming with him okay so you do traditional adult

00:44:37.520 content i do you did it before it's like uh there's of but then there's you're in the traditional like

00:44:45.680 the san bernardino right is that where they shoot the shit what is san bannon where is it where they

00:44:54.080 shoot all the stuff san fernando valley oh san fernando like mainstream stuff svf yeah the mainstream

00:45:00.240 that's i've done a few yeah yeah like i saw you did a thing with johnny sins right yeah yeah well

00:45:05.120 i saw on your instagram yeah i did not watch this it's a good video on her instagram it's an hour

00:45:10.720 and a half long you're with you do something with johnny sins or something yeah yeah so he's a traditional

00:45:16.560 or i guess mainstream is the better word yeah okay i've worked with like traditional mainstream

00:45:21.040 companies as well okay um and your current husband when he met you was cool with it or yeah he

00:45:27.840 actually used to like watch my videos he knew me from an alex adams video yikes okay so did he dm you

00:45:36.400 no so how we met actually was just my best friend her husband was in the military with my husband

00:45:48.000 and she was like hey you're single hey you're single now because we both had a breakup recently

00:45:53.520 and then she just kind of put us together and then he was like she showed her she showed him

00:46:00.240 a picture of me and she was like oh yeah i jack off to that girl to be honest and that's when and

00:46:07.600 that's when the love started that's when he knew that you were the one um okay he was like no way you

00:46:12.400 know that girl what a pickup line honestly right that's a great american love story why get married

00:46:18.400 though like what's the point that's a really good question because i mean why does he sleep

00:46:23.680 with other women no but you sleep with other men not currently you don't do uh content with other

00:46:30.960 men not that he's out now because well okay so we got in trouble for we got in trouble because we took

00:46:38.080 a picture in a shower with two guys naked him and another guy naked my husband's straight just

00:46:44.160 okay sure so we took a picture and then they like called him in and they were like hey this this

00:46:51.360 doesn't look good dude like i don't care what you're doing in your free time i don't care if you're gay

00:46:56.480 but like this doesn't look good because this goes against the cheating policies but we didn't actually do

00:47:02.080 anything so i had to delete the photo okay all right but he's really good at filming so i was like hey if

00:47:12.640 you want to be a you want to learn how to be a good performer then i'll just film with you so all

00:47:16.800 your content is just him it's not with other guys right now okay i have all my old stuff and i did so

00:47:22.080 much old stuff that was insane that i don't really need okay all right and i film with girls now still

00:47:31.280 does he wait is he part of that or no he films it it's just girl girl okay all right intriguing uh

00:47:38.880 uh but both of your husbands well i guess one of your ex-husbands now they were both fine with

00:47:44.560 it with it they didn't care all right what about you relationship status uh it's complicated

00:47:51.040 sure house uh how so uh yeah i i was uh in a relationship and he passed away so i'm not dating i'm not i'm

00:48:02.400 i'm okay but yeah i'm not dating around or anything like that okay uh how long ago did that happen

00:48:08.800 sorry to hear about seven months okay yeah uh have you dated since no okay so you so i don't like

00:48:17.200 you're single yeah it's weird because it's like i'm single but then you say you're single and you're

00:48:21.040 like you're not looking right now because you're definitely not how long were you guys together five

00:48:25.520 years five years was that your longest relationship it was my only relationship only relationship only

00:48:30.400 guy who could uh i had a i had a fling back uh prior to that uh right after college that was like

00:48:41.040 just kind of a whirlwind thing we knew each other for like a month and he proposed and then i was like

00:48:44.800 we need this is no we're not doing that um but i wouldn't even consider that like a real it was a

00:48:51.840 month you know only boyfriend yeah you've had a few other guys but i've dated people like i had a high

00:48:58.400 school boyfriend but it's like i don't know that that counts so gotcha okay um but yeah so but no

00:49:06.800 no dating at all not right now no all right uh well sorry to hear that uh it's okay sing in seven

00:49:16.080 months yeah all right what about you i'm single i've i've been open to dating and my last relationship

00:49:23.360 ended about two or three months ago and my longest relationship has been a year and a half all right

00:49:30.000 was that the one that ended two to three months ago no we were together less than a year okay the

00:49:36.320 most recent one who broke up with him i broke up with him all right and the year and a half one who

00:49:42.000 broke up with him i also broke up with him all right and uh okay any you've been single for two

00:49:52.480 two to three months any guys in the picture no no no one of significance have you had a rebound

00:49:59.040 no rebounds have you been on any dates i've been on a couple um more like maybe one or two with a

00:50:06.960 particular individual but that's about it got it okay what about you so i have been single since

00:50:14.800 2014 i've only been in one relationship and it lasted three months and i've been celibate now for

00:50:22.720 almost three years you said you were last in a relationship in 2014 or sorry 20 24 2014 oh 2014

00:50:32.160 yes so you've been single for 11 years yes and the was that the three months yes okay um

00:50:43.600 you've been and sorry you've been celibate for how long almost three years three years yeah okay

00:50:49.600 and have there been other long strings of celibacy oh yes absolutely was there a string of celibacy

00:50:55.120 after the end of your three-month relationship 11 years ago yes there was almost five years

00:51:02.720 okay three so five years three years any other stretches of celibacy yeah there was a one-year

00:51:09.920 stretch and a two-year stretch in there as well okay so wait hold on that's 11 years total

00:51:19.760 okay i'm sure the math maths but uh do you go on dates at all or not really um not really i do on

00:51:28.480 occasion i'm not on any of the apps um but sometimes when someone piques my interest i'll go out there

00:51:36.080 and you're involved in uh sex work correct yes um you're a stripper yeah so i was um a spicy dancer

00:51:45.360 for about seven years on and off and i do spicy content um the most i do is nudity uh just for

00:51:52.400 personal reasons you've never done boy girl no no i i don't do boy girl or girl girl and barely

00:51:58.960 solo either if that counts okay um wait you've done girl girl no no no girl girl okay um

00:52:11.280 it's not usually not the typical thing a stripper of girl has been celibate for three years but

00:52:19.040 you're being honest yeah yeah i um i'm not asexual but i'm somewhere in that spectrum where

00:52:27.200 i really need a very strong emotional and intellectual connection first

00:52:33.760 your three-month relationship did you have a strong sepia sexual or whatever no it wasn't that

00:52:41.440 actually was what made me discover that i needed that connection i see okay um

00:52:48.320 you've never seen somebody for a longer period of time than three months i have not it's always

00:52:53.200 uh before the three month mark something happens and it implodes what do you do

00:52:58.560 um so oftentimes it's incompatibility and i am a bit of a people pleaser so rather than nip it in the

00:53:05.120 bud very early on i will sometimes wait for them to do it so that i don't hurt their feelings

00:53:12.320 okay all right uh honest

00:53:18.720 and i'm trying to think if i had another question but it just evaded me so

00:53:26.160 three months yes okay um have you had like any at any point have you ever had a roster

00:53:34.880 dating multiple guys or seeing multiple guys i've gone on um up to i think two dates max with

00:53:41.280 multiple people at the same time like in a day no no no just within a span of let's say several months

00:53:47.760 but if it ever gets to a point of either kissing or any kind of physical intimacy i only want to be

00:53:52.880 involved with one person at a time largely for hygiene reasons but also just for emotional cleanliness okay

00:54:00.160 um have you ever had a uh party phase sort of um when i was in my late teens early 20s there

00:54:10.960 were a few months where i was going out a lot but i still um i don't drink and i didn't drink then

00:54:15.440 either and i wasn't hooking up or anything i would just go out and dance and have fun with friends

00:54:19.920 okay um have you ever done like casual hookups or anything like that or uh yes in my early 20s i

00:54:28.320 had a short phase where i would have situationships or casual flings but that was very short-lived

00:54:34.480 because i catch feelings really easily and i'm very much a romantic so i would want to find love so

00:54:40.640 that didn't work out let me see okay all right interesting um what about you um i'm single i've

00:54:48.720 been single for a little over a year now um i've been in five relationships what was the other question

00:54:56.240 uh longest relationship they all were about a year all about a year the one that ended a year ago was

00:55:02.160 about a year yeah okay a little ago who who's broken up with who for all of these so out of the last

00:55:10.400 one he broke up with me but out of all the other ones i was the one breaking up with them i broke

00:55:14.720 up with all of them so four of the five you you ended things okay gotcha and uh you've been you said

00:55:20.880 you've been doing of how long have you been doing that for um on and off since like 2020 2020 okay um

00:55:29.760 have your boyfriends had any issues with it um no they haven't actually the reason i started was

00:55:36.000 because my one ex he was like you should do it like why aren't you doing it but um

00:55:40.720 yeah like my partner there's one partner that like was involved in it but not that one but um

00:55:46.320 yeah they never really had a problem i'm pretty open about it like once if i am talking to somebody

00:55:50.160 i'll be like hey i'm doing this if you're not okay with it it's okay like but we probably won't work

00:55:54.240 out and it hasn't been an issue no it hasn't been okay all right i'm very open about it like sorry go

00:56:01.440 ahead i don't know like if like we're dating like maybe like on the first date i'll be like hey i do i do

00:56:06.880 of like it doesn't work out it's okay like i just feel like that's not something you should be

00:56:12.320 hiding you know do you do any boy girl content i have but i just do like solo so i've done boy

00:56:19.280 boy girl and girl girl have you done boy girl with your boyfriends or is it like other creators

00:56:24.800 or whatever uh boyfriends and then i've done it with two friends like in the past yeah okay got it

00:56:29.840 like i guess they were flings but yeah okay all right um and you're currently single now are there

00:56:37.920 any guys in the picture i'm talking to one what's that mean i'm just like seeing one like i'm i don't

00:56:44.320 know how long you've been seeing him um i've known him for like three months but we've been talking for

00:56:48.400 like like seriously i guess a month but okay it's like we haven't discussed anything but it's like if i

00:56:53.760 like you then like i don't i don't know what you're doing but i'm like that's i'm gonna focus like on you

00:56:59.280 like i find out you're seeing other people okay but like for me it's more like uh like i want i

00:57:05.120 what i'm doing i expect you to be doing but i'm not upset if we haven't discussed it it's fine it's

00:57:09.240 fresh but um like i just what's the word i also just get like worried about like the health stuff

00:57:15.420 like i don't want to be going around you know like but for me it's like if if i find out that the guy

00:57:21.100 i'm talking to is just talking to me even if we're not serious like i feel like i'd like him more

00:57:25.100 because of it and like i won't be mad if he is seeing more people but for me it's like

00:57:29.180 i'm proud that i'm just seeing you so i feel like maybe like i don't know that makes sense but

00:57:35.320 sure what about you i just got my first sugar baby offer um i think i sent it to you um and i decided

00:57:45.200 because the guy only wanted to pay me um two thousand a week that i was going to put it on

00:57:52.460 facebook and see if i could get better offers so i hosted um a sugar daddy contest and it's still in

00:58:00.420 process right now but so are you single oh well and i'm telling you what's going down here

00:58:06.260 so uh right now i'm getting love bombed in my um messenger on facebook because facebook's where i

00:58:15.120 have my biggest following and so that's where the crazies really come out and they're all ultra crazies

00:58:20.320 because they're in my age bracket and so um i'm dodging the love bombers and i've got one

00:58:26.740 incredible story with one of the love bombers that you were not gonna believe but all in all tell us

00:58:35.480 i'm looking for thurston hell the third because i want to be his lovey wait sorry thurston thurston

00:58:43.460 howell the third had his lovey that he took care of and just doted on and she was his oh wait this

00:58:57.580 is a fictional character no he's out there somewhere i will find him thurston hell the third come on you

00:59:05.820 guys it was in the 60s or when the 70s it was rocking the skipper gilligan um ginger i met uh what's her

00:59:17.620 name the other one ginger was the one that was the redhead it's what what's the other one all right

00:59:24.500 you can pull it up i guess oh you guys got it see oh there he is that's thurston hell the third look

00:59:29.620 look at his lovey uh can you click on the actor's lifestyle portrayed by scroll down i want to let

00:59:36.080 no they're probably all click click click click on the actor yeah i want to find you want he he died

00:59:43.700 in 89 well he's dead he was loaded that's what i like wait so okay um are you single well yeah okay

00:59:55.580 uh longest relationship it's a blur nothing matters i'm not married no i've never been married

01:00:02.460 no uh longest relationship it's a blur it doesn't even matter because they matter it matters

01:00:07.220 no because you know if the guy doesn't give you a decent diamond and does a formal proposal none of

01:00:16.500 these panty waist proposals that are going oh my god you were gonna do it weren't you that's why you

01:00:22.940 got me here to wear the hat huh oh i was gonna it was coming my way i was gonna propose to you i've

01:00:28.580 been waiting i am so great have you ever been to propose to i i have been okay so i don't want to

01:00:35.100 make you cry if i would have no no no in your first but no no no you're gonna be my first real one

01:00:40.380 because these other ones are like oh god what yeah exactly that's what i said to hit that 10 times

01:00:47.180 oh i am so fortunate that i found out before i got married because a lot of girls just want a

01:00:55.680 wedding they run down the aisle it lasts about two weeks when they find out the dude is not good but i

01:01:02.760 can see he is really good this is getting me excited look at that wait we need to talk he's you know what

01:01:09.280 he's a big tease are you giving me love you babies

01:01:15.920 all right i want love you babies it's easy to fall for love you babies okay um no next question

01:01:27.800 no kids though right no kids never married kids no uh weren't you dating the my pillow what is it my

01:01:34.040 pillow guy i wasn't dating but i'm telling you i had the flat out hots for that dude yeah but you

01:01:39.860 were texting with him oh yeah but you know what mike got married a year ago april but i think

01:01:49.020 personally yeah personally i was the one that um

01:01:53.720 that lit the fire under his ass because he would keep her in the background

01:02:01.980 and it's like dude if if this is your woman make it known because any man that's legitimate

01:02:10.040 lets you know that it's my wife it's my girlfriend it's my this we don't play vague

01:02:17.140 never play vague and so what i did is i got got him in the corner you got him in the corner i got

01:02:23.680 in the cuck chair or no i got him in the corner he was like watching in the corner crying four months

01:02:29.120 later he was married damn you met you missed him no i didn't miss him did you guys have carnal

01:02:37.360 knowledge or you know there's things you don't talk about there's did you guys go to um

01:02:45.200 somewhere what's that song no we're not just he's a married man he's a married man now and what does it

01:02:55.080 say let uh no one put let's sleep let sleeping dogs lie no it's something like never you know when

01:03:02.260 you make those vows don't let anybody like do anything forsake all others it's you know nobody

01:03:11.660 mess with now that there's a union you know yeah you just don't do that

01:03:15.680 okay um

01:03:20.780 cool cool okay so there are there any guys in the picture currently oh my god i just told you

01:03:29.280 i just got an offer to be a sugar baby two grand it's crazy i you i gave you the whole text it showed

01:03:36.620 you guys face the whole i texted you the whole thing i'll look at it i'll look at it yeah i i'm

01:03:42.920 telling you i'm constantly loved bombed and you know anybody know facebook right yeah we know that

01:03:49.460 facebook right and then you get your messenger the the billion dollar company yeah we know about it

01:03:53.660 messenger it's like dude get out of my messenger okay if you want to talk to me talk on facebook

01:04:00.920 right anybody that keeps coming over and my thing ping ping ping ping ping ping ping and when

01:04:07.160 somebody's telling you they love you here i'll read it they haven't even met you i'll read it

01:04:12.240 sorry if this offends you but i find you attractive and i'd love to have you as my sugar baby letting you

01:04:17.940 know my intentions and willing to spoil you with the sum of 2 000 weekly allowance only if you could

01:04:23.400 be loyal and sincere to me would you want that so this is uh probably a scam yeah no you're blowing

01:04:31.360 my fantasy well so the like i don't mean to blow your fantasy but i get these messages on like tiktok

01:04:38.480 so it's a scam it's a scam i've got an ad right now on facebook letting people know that i'm looking

01:04:46.200 some for a sugar daddy that will supply more than two grand a week so are you getting responses though

01:04:52.900 you did an ad i don't know i haven't checked on facebook

01:04:55.880 okay hey wait when you say an ad do you mean an ad that you paid for you promoted an ad okay

01:05:03.260 i just posted on my facebook can anybody top this okay answer at five line forms on to the right

01:05:10.020 okay all right wow okay um but what about like any genuine you know prospects not sugar baby okay this is

01:05:18.460 okay okay here's one that just happened this is ridiculous right i get somebody in my messenger

01:05:24.500 that's like posting constantly i do a lot of political stuff so i don't mind one or two but

01:05:30.160 when they're starting to do it like 10 15 times a day it's like get a life you're trying to get my

01:05:35.220 attention and i just went dude are you married because let's just cut to the chase because married

01:05:40.640 men hit on me all the time and it pisses me off um he says no i said okay cool tell me your story

01:05:48.340 you know he starts talking tells me in florida i'm going i don't waste my time you're in florida

01:05:54.140 so i'm going out with the girlfriend um out to dinner and she's coming in from florida and i'm thinking

01:06:00.640 ding ding ding she lives in florida this dude lives in florida i'm gonna set her up right she sits down and

01:06:07.080 i said hey um do uh i have this guy in my messenger he's from burbank uh but he's lived in florida for

01:06:15.560 like 28 years i said i don't know what part of florida you're at but you know i'm thinking about

01:06:20.620 setting you up i said do you this i said his name and she goes i'm living with him i go what what this

01:06:29.360 dude has been in my messenger the whole time you never told me you were living with anybody he told

01:06:37.440 me he wasn't married she was married to him but got divorced yeah and only keeps him around now

01:06:43.760 because he gets disability and she needs the 600 bucks to help pay her rent and he's watching her

01:06:50.880 dogs while she's in california but i went out of the world i mean is that the craziest story it's

01:06:59.040 very crazy it's like what you're going out with the very woman i'm going out to dinner with you're

01:07:06.560 going out to dinner i'm going and i'm going oh my god and then all of a sudden she brings out all

01:07:12.400 these dating photos i said look it i'm not interested i'm not interested at all but i don't want there to

01:07:18.160 be any hard feelings and i said so i just blocked him okay and i wanted to tell you i blocked him

01:07:25.280 because i just want to stifle it and and i i kind of feel like she took umbrage because she was

01:07:33.200 supposed to do this show umbridge good word with me you know she was supposed to come out and do this

01:07:39.200 and she's gonna i'm busy and i'm just going what you begged me for this damn so it's craziness

01:07:46.800 that's so crazy it's crazy that's two rage quits for this episode wow that's crazy that's crazy

01:07:53.360 it's really crazy out there it's it's crazy uh what about you relationship status i am currently

01:08:04.080 single um i've been single since april and my longest relationship was six years is that the one

01:08:11.840 that ended three months ago yeah oh shit okay so that's pretty so that what three months ago

01:08:16.960 june april may june yeah three months three four who broke up with who it was a mutual breakup

01:08:23.680 yeah um we started dating when we were like 21 we're the same age we're both like we're literally

01:08:29.920 just a month apart um you know when you start off dating really young sometimes you grow up and just

01:08:36.800 grow apart and be different people and that's kind of what happened between us and we were also kind

01:08:43.200 of like at a point in our lives where it was better for us to be single individually because that way we

01:08:50.080 can kind of like focus on taking care of ourselves instead of like both of us drowning together so we

01:08:56.720 kind of made the decision to like split apart and like just be like yeah you go do you i'ma go do me

01:09:02.880 and i i like to believe that we're still civil i like are you guys still are you guys living together

01:09:09.120 no were you guys living together back then yeah but then um march 31st came turned in the keys he

01:09:16.720 moved out i moved out and now we're kind of just living our own separate lives gotcha okay so you say

01:09:23.040 it was mutual yeah but did somebody broach the topic first of a breakup that was definitely me

01:09:30.720 um so in february a lot of stuff happened in our lives and there was like a lot of situations where

01:09:43.200 we were starting to like struggle and like kind of drown and it was just simply better for us to

01:09:48.800 kind of just focus on ourselves and like focus on like taking care of ourselves because something that

01:09:55.360 you know we love each other we loved each other so much to where it's like we were kind of

01:10:02.800 neglecting ourselves to make the other person happy and we were both doing that so it kind of got

01:10:09.760 really toxic in that sense to where we stop taking care of ourselves just to please the other person

01:10:16.160 and you know we're both aware of that and okay and uh was there any infidelity on either side

01:10:23.920 um well i don't think i should be answering that question just for i'm i'm comfortable letting my

01:10:32.080 business out there but you know like that is a whole different person you know so i don't know

01:10:36.400 if they're comfortable letting their business out there did you cheat on them did you cheat on them

01:10:43.200 not sexually but there was a point in my life where i did um i did like was messaging other people and

01:10:50.960 like that was more like emotional and yeah i admit it's a very shitty thing to do but all you can

01:10:57.840 really do is kind of accept and take accountability that you did it and grow from it and we were still

01:11:03.120 able to like have a relationship after that happened oh um how far into the relationship did that happen

01:11:10.560 um a couple years i don't really remember exactly but it didn't precipitate the breakup no okay

01:11:17.520 so what three years in four years in yeah and for what period of time was this going on a couple

01:11:24.560 months a year um the texting you said yeah the texting um it was only like a couple of weeks

01:11:32.560 okay was it multiple different guys a particular guy just one person okay was it somebody you worked

01:11:38.560 with no it was literally just some person online tick tock influencer no just a random dude

01:11:47.360 did you know him or just a random we were like mutuals on twitter on twitter

01:11:53.280 yeah and we would just flirt with each other in the dms

01:11:58.160 okay yeah i mean i still think that's like emotionally cheating

01:12:01.520 were you guys exchanging photographs of a explicit nature it was literally just like

01:12:11.120 flirting like i we were giving each other attention so you know okay i know a lot of

01:12:17.200 people don't agree with me um i've definitely had people tell me like oh it wasn't physical so

01:12:23.040 it doesn't count as cheating no personally i don't really agree with that you know like

01:12:28.000 okay i think i think me messaging another person while i was in a relationship was like emotional

01:12:35.200 cheating uh did he did you tell him did he find out by like how did this rise to the surface i guess

01:12:47.920 so without revealing any personal information on his side he just found out and we were we pretty much

01:12:55.920 like had space from each other for a couple days i think it was like four days honestly and then

01:13:02.080 we talked about it and we pretty much said like yeah like this happened um we we still cared each

01:13:09.120 other cared about each other a lot so we agreed to like still try to make it work and it did you know

01:13:15.680 i think we still had like a really good like year or two after where we were like doing things really

01:13:20.800 well for each other we were like taking care of each other it's just um honestly it really was the

01:13:26.800 financial issues that broke us up what do you what were the financial issues um

01:13:35.840 so there was a lot of bills that were not getting paid and um you guys were living together yes

01:13:45.280 at the time we were living together okay yes so there were a lot of bills that weren't getting

01:13:50.240 paid were you working yes and he wasn't he was making he was making money was it 50 50 you guys

01:13:58.640 were splitting it or what was the arrangement so the arrangement was that it was to be 50 50 but you

01:14:05.200 know stuff happens sometimes you know sometimes they may not be able to pull their weight or there

01:14:10.800 were even times when i couldn't pull my weight so in a relationship you pretty much just have to

01:14:15.520 like if if my partner can't do his part like this time i can do more just to like accommodate for them

01:14:25.520 if i can't do my part then i would expect my partner to do a little more to accommodate for me

01:14:31.280 that way it's still like equal imbalance but there were financial issues and that was a problem

01:14:37.280 okay so yeah because of the financial issues we decided like it would be better for us to

01:14:42.720 split up and kind of like make ourselves better people for ourselves instead of drowning in the

01:14:47.840 financial issues can you move the the headphones please all right okay uh well that's everybody's

01:14:55.840 relationship status uh have you had a rebound no i've been working a lot to kind of like distract myself

01:15:04.400 so i don't even think i've had time for a rebound have you been on any dates

01:15:11.120 i did go out for ice cream with my like he was cute but he was like more like my friend and you know

01:15:19.120 we decided to just stay as friends but we got ice cream he was your friend yeah like he was friends

01:15:25.040 with you while you were in the relationship like so i use friend very loosely he was definitely just

01:15:32.080 like an acquaintance somebody that i know from like the art community so um there was like an event

01:15:38.480 and then you know we kind of talked a little bit then we started texting a little we went out for ice

01:15:43.840 cream and then um yeah you know we were interested in each other but we just decided to like hey let's

01:15:50.800 just keep it not dating during the course of your relationship had you exchanged communications

01:15:58.000 with this guy you went to get ice cream with um only at events but like not outside of events

01:16:06.320 okay because you described him as a friend right yeah i i use that term a little loosely i just meant

01:16:11.680 like he's somebody that i had already known like it wasn't some random person that i met at the grocery

01:16:16.400 house how soon after you broke up did you go on the date for ice cream with this guy

01:16:20.800 i think it was like in may i don't really remember actually it definitely was in may because

01:16:29.920 it was after i went to universal okay so it was like a month after uh you broke up okay how did you

01:16:38.560 know that you guys had broken up oh well my breakup was definitely like it spread like wildfire

01:16:47.520 but it was public i mean it was not public it's just it was more like you know a lot of people

01:16:53.440 found out and people whisper really really fast people were finding out about my breakup and i didn't

01:17:00.480 even like really tell that many people um i have i have a big family too so my family told a lot of

01:17:08.480 people are you filipino yes i am filipino um okay uh well this is just kind of like why i think it's

01:17:20.560 bad for people to have friends of the opposite sex because half the time they're just waiting for you

01:17:25.520 to be single so they can yeah but that wasn't really a friend that was just a dude that she knew

01:17:29.760 in the same space yeah well the the original way she described it yeah but now it's okay it's like an

01:17:35.680 acquaintance or whatever but that's why you gotta be wary of the friends you know um we're gonna read

01:17:42.240 a couple chats then we're gonna get into some of the show topics we have hall long nate were any of

01:17:47.360 the jackass crew among the millionaires you've dated oh my god bro you're being extra gonna fuck shit up

01:17:57.280 you want to just put it back where it was

01:17:58.880 wait don't it's you're not gonna be able to get it off

01:18:05.440 it's the other finger it's not supposed to go on the pinky all right felicity procure it back

01:18:14.800 please put it back in um can we get a picture of this first please maybe after the show um yeah okay

01:18:22.480 uh nick do a zoom in okay he zoomed in he got a picture it's great um

01:18:29.840 did you date any of the jackass guys into the mic

01:18:34.800 uh did i date the jackass guys uh i think i was in shock i i mean the dude was on i thought he was on

01:18:44.080 fire um got and what happened is they um they took you away so quick after the fact because i was in

01:18:53.600 shock and then all of a sudden i see all these pyramid all of these pyramid a paramount um

01:19:01.680 god trucks vans the whole bit and i'm going oh my god it's the paramount it's a movie and they're

01:19:09.360 going yeah you were just punked i'm going oh my god because i didn't know what johnny knoxford

01:19:14.640 looked uh like and i you know what i still really don't know what he looks like but he

01:19:19.600 they had a show on right after that but back to no i didn't date anybody from that but uh okay

01:19:28.000 it led to another show to do that i got to do all right we have a message here our tts first from

01:19:33.440 sir gwayne bone tower sorry guys the tts is uh we'll still do it at the same time right but it

01:19:40.720 won't be read out through whatever um yes it seems university and college for all its privileges may in

01:19:47.440 fact be less than salubrious environment for the forming of young women ladies what decade was world

01:19:53.200 war one starting with you what decade world war one i have no idea take a guess throw a guess out there

01:19:59.520 i don't know just name a decade just take a guess i'm a woman i don't know okay uh i didn't go to

01:20:06.480 college or high school doesn't matter throw a guess world war one do i say like decade six i don't

01:20:12.160 know what what do you say in a decade uh 20s 20s okay what about you it's the 1910s what do you think

01:20:19.840 what do you think yeah i was gonna say great depression was the 20s so it'd probably be around

01:20:23.200 the 10s i might be thinking of world war ii i thought 1930s okay what about what 1910s okay

01:20:28.960 1910s into the mic 1910s okay what about you 1910s all right congratulations it was 1914 to 1918 well

01:20:38.240 done we have um i'm gonna have you know i'm gonna have one of the girls read this uh i'm gonna have

01:20:44.880 you do the reads for some of these okay uh so becky from vancouver thank you appreciate that

01:20:51.600 i'm reading this yeah ladies would you date a man child who plays video games grown men why are you

01:20:58.880 still playing video games i can answer this so i'm reading and you're answering it's the same reason

01:21:08.160 that you women wear makeup it's a nice it's a nice little escape from reality okay interesting so

01:21:20.000 i know i think you'd be better saying that's why women watch reality tv like you play men play video

01:21:28.800 games for hours which is fine nobody's spending nine hours on their makeup just zoning out i do unless

01:21:40.320 but yeah like consuming content or like engaging in content is different or like media is different

01:21:45.280 than just doing your makeup okay cool yeah cool uh oh we have a chat here from oh we have this

01:21:54.400 somebody bought an item lance the invisible thank you for that appreciate it uh guys shop

01:21:59.520 out whatever.com if you want to buy some merch and uh something about a duck something about uh we

01:22:06.560 will do just shout outs for those we don't do the actual reads it lets you add like a message but

01:22:11.200 thank you for the uh purchase on chopped out whatever.com josh brooks he uh i'll have you read

01:22:17.600 it go ahead me yeah oh brian bring the cat into the family chair one i haven't heard anything you've

01:22:25.600 said oh look a poll chair two your ex is a disgrace to the service maga ma'am you rock chair seven young

01:22:34.240 alanis morissette chair seven that's you me yeah oh you do kind of have like a young alanis look

01:22:42.080 chair seven is is holly yeah i was gonna say i think he meant chair six though i definitely think

01:22:53.040 he meant chair six there alan it do you know who that is alanis morissette i forgot but uh google a

01:22:59.360 photo of her name just for yeah she is and then oh we have a uh tts coming in oh my i'm sorry guys

01:23:07.280 i don't know why the tts isn't working uh chat would you rather get a massage from a gay man or

01:23:12.240 surgery from a female doctor serious surgery so basically would you rather get a massage or die

01:23:19.440 my sprinkler okay i'm not gonna uh thank you thank you appreciate it thank you um so that's a

01:23:31.360 question for the chat uh okay thank you for that appreciate it do you have a picture

01:23:38.880 do young do young like just type young i guess oh yeah you're both sunning yeah that makes sense

01:23:46.720 that i pulled out yeah i guess maybe it's just the hair you do maybe the hair a little bit the hair

01:23:55.280 a little bit i think it's just the hair wait scroll back up scroll up

01:24:00.240 i've never gotten that one before i see it yeah i do too i think you have to wait do you put your

01:24:06.480 eyebrows do you do that thing where you push them up uh yeah i hairspray them but i do have a bald spot

01:24:11.520 and i just pluck it out to me are you able to like put them like just flat like that instead of going

01:24:16.560 up you put them like yeah i mean yeah i think that'll make it i mean they kind of some grow up

01:24:22.240 and then i don't know okay the mind of their own yeah uh and then oh we have another chat here from

01:24:29.040 wait no hold on from where did it go what the heck sorry guys trying to find it

01:24:36.960 uh where did it go uh here it is okay becky oh no i already did wait

01:24:47.680 what the heck would you like a drum roll yeah

01:24:55.040 did i miss it wait sorry guys one sec i don't want to screw somebody i don't want to screw somebody

01:25:00.320 you sent in a stream labs messages so i just want to double check make sure i got it yeah take your time

01:25:04.640 okay we did gloctavius we did the becky from vancouver we did the uh world war one okay we're

01:25:12.240 good we're all caught up all right we're gonna get into some pre-show notes oh there's i asked you

01:25:18.400 to pull something up nick the instagram while we start there all right so this is uh lucy over here

01:25:26.160 he who gives good head lends to the lord he so is that an actual scripture or like is that a bible

01:25:34.800 verse or what i i did grow up in the church but that's not in the bible i just thought it was really

01:25:40.000 witty and ironic and funny oh do you do you think that it might be offensive towards christians or

01:25:48.480 not the ones with a sense of humor yeah i'm catholic you get a pass that's a funny shirt

01:25:52.640 yeah i'm not really catholic i am catholic i am baptized and confirmed and all that yeah well

01:25:57.680 we'll get into that but um so i guess would you wear a shirt like that but it's like referencing

01:26:05.120 islam or muhammad so i would feel uncomfortable doing that just out of cultural sensitivity because

01:26:11.360 i actually grew up in the christian faith and so i think it's more acceptable to critique

01:26:16.240 a culture that is ingrained in you rather than attacking someone else's culture or faith that

01:26:21.440 has no effect on you and that you don't you're not familiar with yourself

01:26:27.360 okay so if you were if you had grown up muslim then you would feel more justified to make a

01:26:34.480 critique of islam or i think so because yeah i think because then i would have a personal experience

01:26:40.720 with it and it would have actually affected me but would you do it though is the question

01:26:44.400 probably yeah i mean i love to um make fun of serious matters in a way that doesn't harm anyone

01:26:52.400 okay um i mean i have some doubts as if you if you would do that though why is that well it seems like

01:27:02.880 um people have gone very comfortable being disrespectful towards christianity

01:27:09.760 whereas even somebody who's an apostate in the islamic faith i don't think a lot of them would

01:27:16.240 feel comfortable outwardly uh disrespecting the faith just because of the potential for ramifications

01:27:24.800 yeah um but isn't that also like in order to when it comes to the abrahamic religions in order to be

01:27:32.640 a christian you really just all you have to do is believe in jesus and to be jewish yeah there's a

01:27:39.040 heritage aspect to it because it's an ethno religion but also like you just have to study the torah like

01:27:44.000 most jews don't actually believe in god but in order to be muslim you have to obey the quran whereas

01:27:50.080 you don't have to do that for christianity or judaism a point of clarification on your statement

01:27:54.720 there when it comes to judaism are you saying cultural jews are you talking about religious

01:28:01.280 jews because i assume people who are religiously jewish probably believe in god yeah the ones that

01:28:07.760 are like actively going to temple believe in god but there's levels and sects of judaism so you have

01:28:13.120 hasidic people and people who keep kosher and orthodox people and then you have people who are just

01:28:17.920 very relaxed celebrate the high holy days like there's levels to it but all of them are jewish

01:28:22.400 like christianity too yeah people just celebrate christmas or whatever it doesn't really apply

01:28:27.200 but in christianity to be a christian you still have to have that faith in jesus oh yeah i mean i'm

01:28:31.360 not really interested in a theological debate but i'm saying right point about that in order to be

01:28:37.200 muslim and to consider yourself muslim and be part of islam you have to obey the quran sure and that

01:28:43.040 would go against what the quran's teachings are so you won't find a muslim doing that

01:28:48.880 right but you can find an ex-muslim doing it yeah and her name is mia khalifa right but are you you're

01:28:54.560 not christian anymore no i'm not right she's an ex-christian who is but you said you don't you

01:29:01.120 wouldn't believe that she would do that if she was muslim and if she was muslim i meant

01:29:06.320 i meant if she was an ex-muslim yeah and mia khalifa did so maybe she would did she she got

01:29:14.000 banged out in a hijab yeah okay multiple times sure i guess i mean look it's logically possible

01:29:25.360 that an ex-muslim could say things that are defamatory towards the religion or towards their

01:29:31.200 profit or whatever i just think it's uh i think it's less likely to occur just because

01:29:38.160 of the potential ramifications of doing that anyways i feel like we're getting

01:29:44.960 why is that why is what i make fun i i make fun of that religion a lot in my social media and i get

01:29:51.280 in a lot of trouble but if i make fun of christianity everyone just laughs and think it's funny yeah

01:29:56.640 well i mean on on one hand uh i don't think somebody should be subject to

01:30:04.240 violence for speech yeah uh so i'm not i'm not suggesting if you like blaspheme somebody's

01:30:11.360 religion that they should like behead you or something but there is it is kind of an interesting

01:30:17.040 dynamic where there is more respect shown towards uh islam even from like when i moved to canada from

01:30:24.560 like white people why do they respect my country's religion more than christianity i don't know

01:30:31.040 it's weird i don't know it's very weird demon possessed what the oh were you gonna say something

01:30:38.560 or i did oh you're okay uh i'll read it uh holly chair seven do you prefer men who drive

01:30:44.320 three four one two point five or eighty ton trucks asking for a friend you know i could that's a

01:30:50.000 a haul long nate he's a long haul trucker um he i think he's single i could you want you want me to

01:30:56.960 get you guys how you doing where have you been all my life what do you think do you see his profile

01:31:02.480 picture do you think he's handsome i think you're handsome he's got a good little goatee

01:31:06.800 do you like the goatee i love it all right can we get you guys set up uh yes nate do you want the the

01:31:13.360 link or what you want you want me to get you guys linked up or yeah okay all right uh lewis

01:31:22.000 thank for the soup chat appreciate it okay so we're gonna get back to the notes here going back to

01:31:27.040 lucy um lucy goosey you're a stripper data scientist of creator uh any plastic surgery yes i've had a butt

01:31:36.240 reduction

01:31:41.920 stop the cap you've had a butt reduction yes you can tell if you scroll back far enough it used to be

01:31:49.280 quite large and now it's normal looking so you had a bbl and you got rid of it no i had um a hip

01:31:58.080 flip and then i got rid of it and did the hip flip did that that was the butt reduction

01:32:05.920 yeah the hip flip made my lower body too wide so i reversed it you reversed the the hip flip

01:32:13.920 have you had a lip flip too no i have not do you have but you have uh the filler then no no i don't

01:32:20.560 can you turn that way yeah

01:32:25.440 yeah i think that's just your her makeup yeah i over line my lips but no i

01:32:30.240 no i don't think there's anything wrong with modifications um i just can't afford to right

01:32:36.160 now uh have you had any other procedures no any okay anything in the face no no botox or anything

01:32:44.880 either asian don't raisin lipo no well the the reverse um uh hip flip was the lipo the butt reduction

01:32:53.520 you've not you've not had anything in the stomach no i mean you can see the rolls if you zoom in

01:33:02.000 i'd rather you not he's saying your body looks unbelievably good thank you which it does thank

01:33:09.440 you she looks great what are you talking about please don't put words in my mouth

01:33:16.000 now i'm like backed into a corner where it sounds like i just insulted her but

01:33:19.040 because i mean i i would when i saw that shirt on your instagram i looked at the rest of your

01:33:26.000 instagram you don't have come on you've had some no i mean i've invested thousands in personal training

01:33:38.240 okay all right all right if you say so um anybody anyone else here have any plastic surgery or anything

01:33:44.480 like that i had a breast lift i lost 70 pounds and i picked them back up there you go what about

01:33:51.360 you yeah queen i had tits and lips tits and lips okay cool uh continuing on with your notes lucy you

01:34:01.200 said you dated the famous dating coach's brother who's that oh gosh i don't want to dox anyone but

01:34:06.480 there was oh i'm surprised you remembered there was a british dating coach and his brother lives in my

01:34:13.680 neighborhood and we went out okay you said you dated a man in his 40s who ghosted you overnight

01:34:21.040 and wouldn't even return your stuff yes that happened as well another british man different

01:34:27.120 different british man a few years ago i was seeing him for almost three months and then overnight he just

01:34:33.040 dropped off the face of the earth and you didn't get your stuff back i did not were you guys living

01:34:38.640 together no no i was just over there a few nights a week so i had some things there that i wasn't able

01:34:44.400 to get back gotcha okay uh wait hold on um wait you said you've been single for how long uh i've been

01:34:55.600 celibate for three years and then this dating situation happened about two years ago in your

01:35:01.840 pre-show notes that you provided to us you said that you were currently dating a man eight years younger than

01:35:06.640 you oh yes we went out on three dates but that is now over oh okay um

01:35:16.960 all right uh you wanted to actually we're going to come back to some of this stuff but uh

01:35:25.600 you play five instruments oh yes didn't you dm me about that yeah i asked if you could bring a cello but

01:35:31.440 maybe it's too much of an ask uh you're a high school valedictorian and then turned vixen you too

01:35:39.200 also you valedictorian uh-huh i was just giving her a clap oh i was just giving her a clap oh okay

01:35:46.720 okay yeah all right and let's see we'll get into some of your other notes a little bit later we're

01:35:52.880 gonna go to maddie hi yo okay so um

01:36:02.560 have you ever slept with a platoon a whole oh oh no but i've been like i've i've tried you tried to do

01:36:12.080 it yeah that didn't work okay i just i slept with a lot of people in the military you said you've

01:36:17.600 disagreed with the show host quite a bit uh on what i don't even remember to be honest with you

01:36:26.160 i don't even remember what i was talking about i'm gonna i'm gonna keep it so a buck with you

01:36:33.520 just anything you said you just you disagree i just i mean i disagree with your points on like

01:36:40.800 only fans girls like not being able to have meaningful relationships or like having families

01:36:46.640 pull that up uh like i've heard you say things about them not like having families and relationships

01:36:54.240 and i completely disagree with that oh well i i don't think i've ever made the claim that

01:36:59.280 it's an impossibility or just that it doesn't happen yeah i think it it makes dating more difficult it

01:37:05.360 does that's that's my position okay well then we're besties then sure uh okay yeah i mean you're you're

01:37:14.880 married you've been married more times than i have well that could i guess that could be a negative on

01:37:19.280 it too that could that could prove your point too that's just you said that you said that steven

01:37:25.040 crowder did a whole podcast about you he did and your dad he did we have some videos that we're gonna pull

01:37:31.120 up uh it's awful and what is the bubble brats thing so that's what i used to go by okay that was like

01:37:38.560 my alter ego no it was like my first username for a long time and then i had to stop using it because

01:37:47.920 it got like shadow banned gotcha and like too many people took my identity or like they were pretending

01:37:53.840 somebody make it made a fake account of me and did some really bad stuff and then i just decided to

01:37:59.600 move my name away from the the name sure and use a real name sure um we're gonna get into that really

01:38:06.320 quick but nick can you pull up the thing i sent so earlier in the conversation you're saying you're

01:38:11.200 oh f11 you got to get this wait oh my oh yeah i was wrong it was 170 000 you're out of f11 in stream yard

01:38:19.280 so you got to get an f okay let's bring it uh bring it back over okay uh so the defendant shall have

01:38:26.400 from the plaintiff as a lump sum property settlement the sum of 170 000 with 50 000 to be paid

01:38:33.600 within 10 days of the date of this order and the remainder to be paid over a term of 36 months at a

01:38:40.720 rate of 3 334 per month uh and then i don't know if any of this each party shall obtain his or her

01:38:48.400 property blah blah blah okay so was was it a contentious divorce i don't know what the contentious was it

01:38:56.880 were you guys fighting a little was he like you owe me this yes he was very sassy okay so you're

01:39:04.800 paying him pull it back up really quick 170 000 my goodness for one year of marriage where he did

01:39:11.920 nothing one year of marriage yes so this is what happens to dudes all the time but it's happening to me

01:39:20.560 but it's happening to wow the role reversal here i hate it um damn rip uh well you must be doing

01:39:29.520 pretty well then if uh you're paying him that much in alimony i suppose right i suppose do you make

01:39:34.400 seven figures a year yes okay cool uh we also have some tiktoks from you uh i think i pulled those up

01:39:41.200 find your tiktok oh nick to go full screen on tiktok you have to do the three dots in the in the top

01:39:50.080 yeah i make some really bad tiktoks yeah yeah you're good take your time

01:39:54.400 and uh while we're doing that guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow and a prime sub if

01:39:59.520 you have one uh l brand no thank you for the that's me nope wrong one oh they're gonna call you

01:40:06.560 uh yeah that's fine that's not even a bad one you're coming up next i mean it's like i don't

01:40:13.600 know kai baka thank you for the gifted sub and thank for the i think you sent 20 earlier and mochi

01:40:19.360 think for the the uh prime there uh while we're getting that pulled up going back to you you said

01:40:25.040 that it hasn't worked out with any of the men because they listen to you explain that um i don't

01:40:34.320 know they just listen to me they take i just feel like by me doing what i'm doing the guys that are

01:40:41.520 attracted to me are not the guys that i want and they listen to me they're not very masculine

01:40:47.360 and yeah do you want a guy to disregard all things i think i fully accept the consequences of my

01:40:57.200 my decisions that this is like what i have dating like what i have for dating like the the men that i

01:41:03.440 want what i i wanted to date is like someone that is like extremely masculine wants a girl that is

01:41:09.600 like not like me so obviously i'm not like matching that you know what i mean like i my like men that

01:41:16.800 i like see that i'm like this is like a man that i want that has this kind of like thought process

01:41:21.360 would be someone like andrew tate and that's like not someone that would want me how do you know that

01:41:28.240 i don't know i just feel like in most situations have you slid into his dm no i haven't i don't

01:41:32.560 even know if i get her phone we're gonna have her slide into oh wait but he's banned on instagram

01:41:37.040 yeah do you have twitter no i don't have anything you don't have twitter just instagram

01:41:42.480 um yeah i'm gonna dm him right now for you yeah ask him be like yeah that's like literally

01:41:50.240 yeah and i'm actually gonna dm him i watch your show and one of your co-hosts he i don't know his name

01:41:56.080 he's like an older dude andrew tate wait hold on by the end of the night everybody's gonna be

01:42:01.760 taken yeah yeah yeah okay sending andrew what about tristan tate hold on i'm gonna do a voice memo

01:42:14.880 wait hold on primal wait wait define primal i will define hold on be quiet for a sec

01:42:20.800 hey what's up andrew i'm live right now on the podcast and uh i have a woman on the show who is

01:42:31.200 interested in you uh she's very muscular though so i don't know read good kids but she's interested

01:42:39.440 let me know if you're down for a date okay i don't know whatever all right girl just start dating

01:42:45.920 dominican guys from new york you'll be happy no i'm not interested in dominicans but um but yeah

01:42:51.600 and i watched your show with your co-host and the way you guys were talking i was like okay that's

01:42:57.200 kind of like um the same kind of like thought process so anyone that is primal and believes in like

01:43:03.280 those things so you want to date andrew wilson not like date him but like those thought process

01:43:10.560 that thought process usually is not attracted to me even though that's my exact thought process

01:43:15.600 but they're not interested in me because of the the decisions that i made but you know what i mean

01:43:24.240 which is understanding why i get it it's a consequence of my own actions but why is that

01:43:29.520 why why did i have the power or like the to get make this decisions you know i feel like i shouldn't

01:43:35.840 have been able to wait you feel like you shouldn't have been able to yeah i think so you think there

01:43:41.520 should be laws that prevent prevent or control control yeah or at least not as open that it is

01:43:50.000 now because when i started you you should go back to iran you were good yeah but it's it's too much

01:43:55.600 there too much it's too much there it's like a happy it's like a happy meeting you want to be

01:44:00.640 somewhere in the middle between not in the middle but like honestly not gonna not gonna lie before i

01:44:06.720 moved here i really was against like that kind of life and it's only been like the past like little

01:44:12.960 bit that i realized that's not like when what i want you know i used to think everything i'm doing

01:44:17.440 is extremely empowering and great till recently um wait so i need to get up for just a moment then

01:44:24.000 we're gonna get into some of the reacts for you but you said in your messages to us that uh

01:44:31.600 hold on i can pull it up that you wanted to talk about how negative and retarded sex work

01:44:40.480 stripping only fans is you say this shit sucks it does um there's quite a few other women here at the

01:44:48.480 table who are involved in that career yep i'm gonna step away for a bit i'll let you guys have a little

01:44:53.680 convo on that so yeah okay enjoy it okay i mean do you like it do you really enjoy it so i will say

01:45:02.960 as with any job i don't like every aspect but i think for women because we've been sexualized and

01:45:08.640 exploited and subjugated for so long that at least in this one avenue we can monetize it and obviously

01:45:14.960 it's not perfect it gets we're still subject to a lot of injustice and unfair treatment but at the very

01:45:21.040 least you get some autonomy because you have some control over the way your image is distributed and

01:45:26.400 how you choose to profit off your body or your sexuality okay how about you do you like it um

01:45:34.400 it's hit or miss but i feel like with any job like like she said there's um some aspects you don't like

01:45:39.120 but some like you do like i also just like that like we're our own boss and you're more good you're in

01:45:44.880 more control so like you get to decide more so like and based on how you handle it but like when

01:45:49.920 you're doing it when you're actually doing it when you're recording yourself doing these things

01:45:54.960 if you really think about it like deeply yeah and you're like female natural instincts do you enjoy it

01:46:02.400 um i feel like there's just like it's so like there's a variety to it so some yes and some no

01:46:08.960 yeah i love it okay even when i'm doing it i love it even when you're doing it you love it

01:46:17.040 i didn't love stripping but i do love only fans now so for the two ladies who enjoy it what do you

01:46:25.040 think is the most fulfilling part of it for you like either one of you i just like i don't know if

01:46:31.280 it's necessarily fulfilling but i like being my boss i like posting i like the content i post i

01:46:39.040 like putting effort into what i make i try to make videos that i'm really proud of like are you an

01:46:46.640 exhibitionist you would say um maybe not really okay not not naturally i just like i like creating

01:46:56.080 content that i'm proud of even if it's sexual content yeah like i'm very much myself on like

01:47:02.320 all my platforms and i also just feel like it's made me more confident and i kind of like struggle

01:47:06.960 with anxiety and like all that shit but um i don't know it's just made me like more open-minded i just

01:47:12.480 think like i'm mentally a healthier individual because like we've gotten so much like backlash and just

01:47:18.080 we get a lot of hate and like i don't know like we're all good people but people try to like put

01:47:24.160 their own insecurities on us but at the end of the day it's like we're not harming you we're

01:47:28.160 doing our job like why does it matter what other people do yeah so i have a totally open question

01:47:34.240 for you guys i'm genuinely curious about your thoughts on this so how much have you guys looked

01:47:39.920 into like the impacts of corn on men and how do you think only fans relates to that and again open

01:47:46.560 question i think anything that you do too much of can have a bad impact on you and i don't think it's

01:47:57.120 our space to limit what people can and can't do so like in america we can say whatever we want we can

01:48:05.440 drink energy drinks we can smoke cigarettes like everything you do has consequences and i think if we

01:48:14.800 weren't doing this men would be finding it elsewhere i think when you limit people from being able to do

01:48:20.800 what they want and watch what they want they're gonna find it in a more harmful way it is weird

01:48:25.840 that it's the only addictive thing in our society where we demonize the person who like creates it

01:48:32.080 yeah like we're not talking we're not we're not going to cigarette companies and being like do you

01:48:36.480 see people are dying yeah we're taking money from the cigarette companies and then letting them like

01:48:41.760 push vapes in schools and yeah i mean there's just there's so many things that impact men negatively

01:48:48.720 that and i think especially with only fans like it's different than if you're just watching like

01:48:56.000 mainstream corn like because they do do some things that i think could be damaging but if you're watching

01:49:03.520 somebody who's making ethical corn that they're consenting to it's not you know like you know how

01:49:11.120 unethical like the business can be you're not doing as bad as what somebody could be watching

01:49:19.280 i also in my opinion oh sorry i was just gonna say i feel like women get like a lot of hate for

01:49:23.680 of and then i have a lot of guy friends that do it but for them it's like hell yeah brother get the

01:49:27.440 bag like their guy friends just like cheer them on they're like yeah get the money like you do you

01:49:32.240 but for us it's like as horrible if not worse what i think that's as horrible if not worse like men doing

01:49:38.800 it yeah and it's just sad yeah i'm just curious like if you don't if you are against sex work then why

01:49:47.520 do you do it because it was so well i did it when i was 18 i didn't have enough thought on my own to

01:49:55.040 like think it's a bad thing and then now at this point i'm like i mean i've done it for so long

01:50:00.320 everyone knows i think i formed a personality on this and i think at this point i'm i'm just cooked

01:50:07.440 so i just prefer i just prefer at least making the money but like you know what i mean like it's like

01:50:14.240 i would if i could go back and just like have a better role model of never getting into it yeah i

01:50:19.280 would 100 do that but at this point i'm cooked so why not just cooked you're not cooked if you

01:50:25.440 truly if you don't like i'm i'm not gonna sit here and be like you shouldn't do it and it's awful and

01:50:29.520 like no if if you liked it i would be like yeah keep going but if you genuinely don't like it

01:50:36.160 there there are ways like in your life that you can get away from it and just kind of start new

01:50:40.320 especially if you're not that heavily on social media yeah like i think yeah you don't say you're

01:50:45.120 but it's not like i'm cooked it's because when i go out there and when i'm like when i don't want

01:50:49.920 to do it anymore even the men is like kind of ruined i think both genders are just getting ruined

01:50:55.360 everyone's just like very far away from their natural instincts so at this point i'm like i

01:51:00.800 rather just make money because men are not even like really as masculine i used to be i think you're

01:51:06.000 just in the wrong place truly like geographically i think maybe canada i've been to canada yeah yeah

01:51:12.400 yeah i don't think you're gonna find your man in canada yeah that's maybe that is it but like

01:51:16.400 yeah they just go to go to boston baby go to new york go to a northeast like mid-atlantic they're

01:51:22.720 gonna love you and they're like the fucking blue collar workers that are gonna be like

01:51:27.200 this is my lady and i don't give a shit what she did but if you touch her or look at her i will

01:51:31.360 kill you or sorry on a live view but like that's but yeah like seriously like go to a place where

01:51:37.600 there's blue collar dudes they'll get past what's out there and then you just have a nice time with

01:51:42.720 them they won't let you do anything i don't even have a problem with people not really accepting me

01:51:47.520 i actually have a lot of people that are accepting what i do but i just don't like i don't know i just

01:51:53.120 don't think it i just don't really like to and i think i'm just cucked at this point you're not

01:52:01.280 i couldn't say that no did your parents not encourage you to go to school yeah i moved here

01:52:07.440 with my mom so she didn't know no does she know that you do only fans yes okay and what does she

01:52:14.720 think do you think school can i can i respond to some of these things that i see popping up

01:52:20.560 because that says we met no okay all right no all right and i don't think anything wrong with that

01:52:29.920 it's just their opinion okay i have never mind i won't say it's fine but um so your mom is okay

01:52:38.080 with it yeah did she like what was her reaction when you first told her did you tell her when you

01:52:43.200 were 18 when you first started it she didn't care but you came from iran right are people they're

01:52:53.440 usually more conservative um not really no iran was not like a muslim country till like 40 50 years

01:53:00.080 ago so a lot of the families are not actually muslim or conservative a lot of them are just

01:53:04.720 forced to follow a rule that they don't really like none of my friends or like none of my family

01:53:10.080 like no one's really like muslim it's just something that is like forced okay upon them so

01:53:15.280 like no one really actually believes and that's why like even now when there's a war a lot of them are

01:53:20.000 like as long as the whole thing changes you know yeah yeah i don't know anything about yeah that

01:53:27.920 would your mom do to support herself um she has a like she had a normal job

01:53:34.880 what's her normal job normal job it's a regular job at the mall no just oh because you said that you

01:53:45.200 you moved to canada because she was following a man yeah and then the man vanished

01:53:53.280 i don't know kind of made me sad for your mom it's fine she's doing fine yeah i did fine

01:53:58.640 good i bought her a house and a car she's oh good oh good

01:54:03.920 holly have you ever done sex work well i'm thinking about it now isn't it big box

01:54:09.440 is more more than uh sugar baby money huh yeah sugar baby is kind of sex work it is i'm teasing

01:54:18.560 sugar baby in my dreams you don't think you could do it oh yeah well that's why i posted i said you

01:54:27.680 know let's do uh signups boys oh my god so did you respond to that message where he was like i'll give

01:54:34.000 you a two thousand dollar weekly allowance um no i took it and i sent it to brian and i said you want

01:54:44.160 to know what i'm doing right now check this out and then i put it on facebook to see if i could drum up

01:54:50.240 any biz my friends all laughed god they had such a good time it's probably still spinning on facebook

01:54:59.440 with everybody laughing have you had higher offers i haven't looked at my facebook to see i mean like

01:55:07.760 ever well that was my first offer darn it and it took me 62 to get it god bless why didn't you take

01:55:15.600 them up on that well because i think it's a uh a sea of players out there there's a lot of love bombers

01:55:28.640 i don't really think they're true and i mean that was sweet for him to say that and i appreciate it

01:55:36.720 but really 2000 a week is kind of cheap and i don't really like that so it was kind of like a little

01:55:44.160 insult i get it i'm older you know but whatever i don't think sugar babies and sugar daddy relationships

01:55:53.040 are usually for love i think it's strictly transactional yeah and i didn't get it because

01:55:59.120 i didn't get any contract with it i didn't see any cash what's up with that it's a scam

01:56:07.600 so to pivot i have a question for all the ladies here if you want to continue talking about this we

01:56:11.520 totally can um but i really would like to hear your guys's thoughts on the male loneliness epidemic

01:56:17.840 yeah yeah there's a lot of there's a i well i know there's a lot of guys that are lonely and man

01:56:28.160 facebook is covered with it and if they could just dial it back a little bit you know i mean it's like

01:56:35.520 look can we have a conversation here don't do the love bombing okay because it's a major red flag you

01:56:42.640 know we don't trust you you know but if you could be civil and normal we could talk and maybe something

01:56:49.840 can happen you know what does that mean the male loneliness epidemic so i haven't researched too far

01:56:57.680 into it but the from what i've heard some of the statistics behind it is that men now more than ever

01:57:03.680 are more depressed um more um feeling isolated feeling disconnected from partners and there's a lot

01:57:11.520 of different theories on why this is happening one of the ones that i think might be true is that

01:57:18.080 right now the meaning of relationships is shifting for men and women like meaning that now with the

01:57:23.200 female empowerment movement more women women are outperforming at work women are outperforming at

01:57:28.480 home and yes there's a lot of burnout and exhaustion with that um but also like you know we're coming

01:57:34.240 from a different place now where women are not entirely reliant on men like we can have our own big

01:57:39.920 accounts we can have our own jobs etc etc etc and so now women don't necessarily quote unquote

01:57:46.880 need a man in order to be independent or to have a life or to have a family so now i think a lot of

01:57:52.800 men are confused about what is my role and with that very loud third wave feminism where it's like

01:57:58.000 men suck everybody to just um all the men like you know there's not worth it any anybody out there all

01:58:04.000 that it's sending a lot of mixed messages about okay so i can't say the word silverly silverly

01:58:10.000 silverly yeah excuse me like that um and so for that like you know what women actually want because

01:58:18.480 it feels like the men can't win in any direction right now um but we're also like shifting out of

01:58:24.160 more quote-unquote patriarchy views and now women get to choose from a place of desire and men also get

01:58:29.440 to up level some of their own emotional skills that may not have been provided in the past so

01:58:34.720 that's the synopsis of it what are your guys i don't think so i don't do you want to talk first go

01:58:40.160 ahead doesn't matter okay i think that we took him we took like their natural needs and rules that is

01:58:46.960 like in nature away from them so now they're just like lost and then the way now we are like woman

01:58:53.520 empowerment and all that by doing that we think we're in power but we're not really in power like

01:58:58.960 i mean you have a normal-ish job but like we are not empowered what we think we are so now instead

01:59:06.320 of like being with one we like listen to like one thousand and we think we're like empowered but we're

01:59:12.480 not and we just took their nature away from them and now we're using them and now they're just lonely

01:59:17.840 and they're like they can't do what they're meant to do in nature that is like in their like literal

01:59:24.560 like natural instincts they're not able to do it why why aren't they able to do it because they're

01:59:30.000 meant to provide and protect and take care of you so then why not do that because we don't even let

01:59:35.360 them like as soon as one of them comes near us we're like this and that and then also like there is

01:59:39.920 like a need in human relationships and with men and women there is like there used to be a need of

01:59:46.000 like men doing that and now women think they're all doing it by their own i was gonna say i agree with

01:59:51.120 you but i feel like a lot of it is just like emotional intelligence like i still want a man

01:59:55.280 that can provide and like i believe we all have like our um different responsibilities like we're

02:00:00.800 yin and yang but um i just like my past relationships are just guys i've tried to date

02:00:06.240 they just like i don't what's the word um they just have like really rash opinions or very like

02:00:12.480 one-sided like they stick to some stuff or i've noticed even with like my guy friends when they talk

02:00:17.120 about like trying to date women like me as just their friend i'll tell them like hey like you're

02:00:21.760 a little rude or you acted this way or this way like they're not going to listen to me but um

02:00:25.280 i've noticed like they'll listen to their guy friends and then do better but oftentimes that's

02:00:30.480 like not because we kind of became against each other so it's been very hard for men and women

02:00:35.680 to agree with each other and we're at a point that we're in a war at every point it's like no i'm

02:00:42.080 right it's competition but yeah i think there is like underlying reasons why this is the way it is

02:00:47.440 i i did date somebody like that too it was always like i don't know oh like you have the um ability

02:00:53.280 to like do this but like i can't so he'd like kind of made it this way by like i think feminism had

02:00:58.960 like a big part of that yeah why it's the way it is well yeah but i think that's hold on just a

02:01:03.680 sec davon jackson weighing in with the uh message y'all just heard a lady say that 2 000 a week for

02:01:10.880 existing was cheap and now we're acting confused as to why men are alone selling butt is an

02:01:16.800 empowerment and yes we demonize uh drug dealers too thank you davon jackson coming in there with

02:01:22.960 the yeah but we don't demonize drug dealers as we do porn stars it's we demonize addicts wait it was

02:01:30.800 a whole thing you missed but we demonize when it comes to drugs we demonize the addicts way more

02:01:35.680 than we demonize the drug dealers we send the drug dealers to jail but you don't look at them like

02:01:40.800 like you see a drug addict and you're like well why the did he make that choice and i i have a

02:01:45.120 food addiction i again i lost 70 pounds the whole thing is nobody's gonna blame the food manufacturer

02:01:52.240 for that that's me that's my choice they demonize the buyers not the sellers exactly yeah and it's

02:01:57.200 like no no demonize the person that's that's you know like if you're gonna do it for everybody if

02:02:02.880 you're just gonna do it for porn you got to do it for everybody wait i don't think drug dealers

02:02:06.720 have some sterling reputation they don't but drug addicts are demonized way more than drug dealers

02:02:13.280 cigarette come if you own a liquor company or a cigarette company i'll stick with the legal ones

02:02:18.400 or even a marijuana company in places that it's legal people are not going to look at you like

02:02:23.040 you're the scrounge of the earth but if you're an alcoholic then you're a deadbeat loser and you have

02:02:27.760 all these problems like but well the the alcohol company one i'll i'll give to you i don't think there's

02:02:33.520 really demonization towards like alcohol companies for selling alcohol there's like budweiser gone

02:02:40.720 trouble a couple months ago for giving a sponsorship to dylan mulvaney that's another separate though

02:02:47.280 but cigarette companies are absolutely massively demonized the ones that make vapes philip morris

02:02:55.600 um moral borough they're absolutely the cigarette companies are demonized and they're legislated against

02:03:01.120 yeah they're legislated against after a lot of fighting but they still are allowed to sell and

02:03:06.560 nobody says like well you shouldn't be allowed to buy cigarettes you shouldn't like nobody's flaming the

02:03:12.240 ceo of marlboro and being like you you shouldn't exist and you're a terrible person nobody's protesting

02:03:17.520 that guy and vaping and zins and everything else is so prevalent now nobody really bats an eye at that

02:03:24.160 i i do think there is still quite a bit of uh stigma associated with uh being involved in the tobacco

02:03:30.640 industry like i do think it's the case if you're if maybe in a romantic context i think some people

02:03:37.520 might have some hesitations dating like somebody like a vp or an executive for a tobacco company

02:03:46.000 i don't i imagine they make a ton of money i don't think they have a lot of i think some people would

02:03:50.800 have qualms maybe being friends with or dating somebody who's a vp or executive at the tobacco but there

02:03:57.200 are no dating shows or podcasts online that dedicate six hours of content as to why you shouldn't date

02:04:04.160 the vp for marlboro or american spirits and there are for only fans well that's a total straw man we

02:04:10.320 don't spend six hours in fact i didn't even say it was you oh okay i'm saying in general which other

02:04:15.200 podcast then i don't watch them i don't know so you're talking about this podcast yeah we honestly i

02:04:21.200 while it is a topic of conversation coming up here when it comes to women's involvement in only fans

02:04:27.600 and sex work i actually find the conversation kind of dull and boring and uninteresting and my my audience

02:04:34.160 can even back this up i frequently don't want to engage in the porn bad conversation because it's

02:04:40.160 boring fair enough but other podcasts do you have fresh and fit and then whatever andrew tates does and

02:04:46.640 then that's not their focus but but i see them on tiktok all the time i see them on youtube like

02:04:51.440 they are it's a clippable thing to get into an only fangirl's face and be like no one will ever

02:04:55.760 love you which is bullshit but that's like a thing yeah that's a straw man though people i don't think

02:05:00.720 people are saying that people we have people in the chats that are sending money just to say like

02:05:05.760 men don't like 304s now you're shifting the goalposts first it was people on that host podcasts

02:05:11.520 now it's just like anonymous commentators of course people on the internet you've been on the internet

02:05:16.640 i'm sure you know that people say mean things on the internet so we're shifting the goalposts here

02:05:22.800 a little bit when it comes to these podcasts i mean i haven't really heard rhetoric like that i i think it

02:05:29.120 is the case that people say it makes it way more difficult to date it makes it way more difficult

02:05:33.120 to find a fulfilling relationship which is fine you're involved in that yeah but my point was that

02:05:38.480 earlier when it came up we were talking about the fact that it is the only porn or corn sorry anything

02:05:44.400 that's like adult content is the only addictive substance that we really heavily demonize the

02:05:51.760 creator of it and not the user in our society again we don't demonize the alcohol maker this

02:05:59.200 is just totally untrue women refuse frequently to date men who are like addicted to adult content like

02:06:07.920 it's a strong stated preference and there's a social stigma towards men who watch adult content

02:06:14.560 and i'm actually kind of in favor of that i don't think men should be watching this kind of content i

02:06:19.200 think it's detrimental and damaging to relationships the man should not be watching adult content uh even

02:06:25.280 outside of a relationship i don't think he should be watching it but there's absolutely social stigma

02:06:30.800 towards the user i have literally never encountered you've never heard a girl say i don't want to date

02:06:36.640 a guy who watches porn no i'm we're just gonna say whatever to be fair that is a standard in my

02:06:42.080 relationships is that which is fine but i've never this is my first time encountering it you've never

02:06:47.520 heard a girl say i have a strong preference for a guy who doesn't watch this kind of stuff i mean i i

02:06:53.680 suppose my grandma probably i if he's addicted to it then i would have a problem with that if it's like

02:07:00.560 consuming his everyday no but life but if he just watches it he probably has let's say he watches it

02:07:07.680 two times a week oh i don't care while he is you know that's fine but it is reducing the frequency

02:07:12.640 in which you guys are having sex it hasn't in the past how would you know uh i can't imagine it being

02:07:20.400 more frequent okay i mean you could be dealing with like a guy who has like very very very high

02:07:26.480 high sex drive where you can like masturbate multiple times a week and then fuck you multiple

02:07:30.240 times a day but i feel like most guys are not going to be able to like masturbate and have the same

02:07:36.320 level of sexual frequency now you first of all everybody should masturbate you should have time

02:07:41.440 by yourself what do you mean nah masturbation is healthy it's like you should have some alone

02:07:47.120 risk of prostate cancer and even if you you just get your needs fulfilled by your partner which is

02:07:52.320 okay but like masturbation does have health benefits if you're yeah if you're single sure i guess but

02:07:57.360 maybe your wife isn't fucking you every day you divorce her and you find somebody every day every

02:08:02.080 day oh every day sorry i thought you said if she just wasn't no no like as a man i've read then i could

02:08:08.880 be wrong on numbers but you should ejaculate like 28 times a month for optimal health send me the study on

02:08:15.600 this uh i'ma just i'ma field this to the ladies because i can't speak for men on this one

02:08:22.480 there is when it comes to say it shouldn't be this way but when it comes to sex and when you're with

02:08:26.560 your partner even if you've been with them forever there is still a little bit of a performative

02:08:30.240 element to it where you want to look good and you want to make sure that you're taking care of when

02:08:33.920 you're masturbating you just have to worry about yourself and it doesn't matter what face you make

02:08:38.000 or anything like just that's you should have alone time no you gotta save that for your partner

02:08:43.600 and it's save the ugly faces and the weird positions and no what kind of weird are you

02:08:48.800 doing i'm just saying don't worry about what your face is doing when you're doing that do you when

02:08:53.280 when you're doing that are you watching adult content while you're doing it depends that's

02:08:57.600 damaging to your relationship i i would disagree with that okay sure i mean again he's dead so well

02:09:05.120 i don't think it can get much more damaging that's the most that's what that's why it happened

02:09:08.960 actually yes i wish it was a porn related accident that would be funny uh incident we have some

02:09:15.120 chats coming through here we have pasty george the reason actually i'm gonna have you read them

02:09:20.960 i'm the verbalizer still yes you are the i'm the show verbalizer yes okay the reason why men went

02:09:27.760 the reason why women are showing higher numbers in both academia and the workplace is because men are no

02:09:33.920 longer pushing themselves when there's no women children or family what's the point that's that's

02:09:39.920 fair push yourself to get a woman and child and family he follows it up with hearing women condoning

02:09:46.160 and reinforcing their own delusions and degeneracy among themselves in real time is hilarious lmfao

02:09:56.160 i'm so glad you're enjoying the show he's loving it's hilarious that you spent a hundred dollars

02:10:00.640 for us to talk to you oh don't get on his bad side because he'll pay he'll spend more money so

02:10:05.760 that i see what he's saying yeah this guy's a this guy's a big uh a high roller he's uh he owns a

02:10:12.000 couple casinos up in canada actually can he be a high roller for me hey pasty george i love high

02:10:17.280 roll she's in canada pasty where you in vancouver he's would you date a first nations giga chad um

02:10:23.440 is he primal what does that mean are you primal pasty george is he extremely masculine he's

02:10:30.320 sending hundreds of dollars to talk to women he doesn't know what is it read it the chances of

02:10:36.960 304s of girls cam girls etc getting a mid man to marry is high but them getting a high tier man

02:10:44.960 and marrying him is low and is even lower if they try to keep him lol he he uh yeah so he's in canada

02:10:53.120 too you're in canada but you're in vancouver he's in he's in saskatchewan and he but he owns like three

02:10:59.920 casinos yeah so if you if you want like i'll get you guys linked up depends on how he is yeah

02:11:05.760 also let me check on andrew tate if he messaged back if he's an andrew tate supporter yeah um wait

02:11:12.720 what were we talking about oh we're gonna react to some uh videos or something and then we were

02:11:18.000 talking about uh yeah we'll move it on to the videos get the first one pulled up please just real

02:11:23.360 quick what's up with the patrice o'neill picture uh rest in peace yeah wait great one of my favorite

02:11:29.680 comedians they're actually that rules he's the best she actually i didn't i didn't know i'm gonna

02:11:33.440 cry do we have it all right so uh we have a bunch of videos from you so we're gonna go back to back

02:11:41.040 these are so old yep oh uh i like the braces yeah maybe it's bigger they're really old there we go

02:11:47.680 okay go ahead play it okay so you know these are people on your tick tock being like hey that's your

02:11:55.440 dad this is on your tick tock he's your biggest supporter okay we need to tab over to the next

02:12:00.400 immediately okay immediately uh get it full screen okay so we'll we'll go back center and then we'll get

02:12:07.120 them going all right whenever you're ready all right go ahead oh uh pause put it on video

02:12:20.480 i stand by the very beginning audio on

02:12:23.360 audio yes i have he watches all my videos right everyone you're only he loves my tick tocks

02:12:36.480 oh oh your tick tocks okay next

02:12:42.560 oh my mind was blown for a second my heart fell into my stomach i'm not that weird okay

02:12:47.360 all right all right we got next one coming up uh show it to me first then we'll it's probably no

02:12:54.880 audio yeah no this is my mommy all right this so their support your parents are supportive of you

02:13:01.600 doing the of yes this is still super old though okay mom is supportive she's proud yeah okay um

02:13:13.200 hide it before it ends okay just put its back center uh next one and then who here like you do of

02:13:20.080 too though right technically but not in the way that most people do i post cosplay photos and bikini

02:13:26.160 photos on there but no no adult content no okay uh what do your parents think of you doing i only

02:13:32.080 have a mom so um your dad passed away no i uh my dad is not like he i don't know where he is

02:13:39.280 all right thorn holio thank you for the gifted 10 memberships appreciate it uh next one

02:13:48.000 no audio or wait is there yeah play it i guess

02:13:56.080 your dad must be so proud he's your top supporter okay next uh and then you do of what do your parents

02:14:05.280 think about it uh so my dad passed away when i was 18 but before that he was always very supportive of

02:14:12.000 any artistic ambition i had and my mother and i we haven't spoken since i was 18 when my dad passed

02:14:19.040 it strained our relationship too much okay what about your parents me um i actually cut my own father off

02:14:26.480 at 17 and i'm emancipated but i'm like still close to my mom sometimes i'll provide for her and like

02:14:31.680 support her um she's like okay i don't know she she i don't know it's hit or miss sometimes like

02:14:37.440 she'll give me and then sometimes she's like i'm proud of you like you're doing well she just doesn't

02:14:41.680 really want to hear about it yes i'm polish i learned it first what's that my family's from there i spoke

02:14:46.560 at first so like when i was younger it was kind of a struggle like were you born in poland no i was

02:14:50.960 born in new york is that your mom yeah that's that's actually my mom she's really hey we should

02:14:57.520 have her on the show jenny lynn we should have had you on the show mother daughter that's my mom uh

02:15:02.960 chair two is well spoken and seems smart what's her off now trying to plug my all right uh next that's cute

02:15:09.760 i did this a lot people really hated it uh so parents cool with it or not cool with it my mom

02:15:30.000 knows she's cool with it she's cool your iranian mother is cool with you being a stripper yeah tell

02:15:37.280 me has she ever been to the strip club yeah yikes i mean she's a feminist too really yeah like she

02:15:45.040 was saying earlier iranians are like pretty liberal like the people like persians oh yeah they yeah

02:15:51.040 they're not very as like there's there's countries that are like muslim and the people agree with it

02:15:57.440 and there's iran that is muslim but people don't agree with it so it's basically like a thing that

02:16:01.840 happened in the past 40 50 years so a lot of these people's like grandparents are not actually

02:16:05.280 revolution yeah so it's like we're not really a muslim country we're forced to be muslim country

02:16:10.400 well what's crazy is if you actually google photos of what iran looks like was it the 70s

02:16:17.680 yeah it was just like america it looks like it america we say that we were one of the best countries

02:16:23.040 and they did that to us to make us the worst country and it's kind of happening to you guys now

02:16:27.360 so good luck on that becoming what if they're all muslim country good luck on that oh

02:16:35.040 i mean are we yep canada is for sure oh that's that's one of the reasons now we have mostly latin

02:16:43.040 american yeah immigration so yeah i don't know if we should be well who knows um do you have the next

02:16:49.600 one oh there's more oh this is a different one but yeah sure we'll just play this i'm excited to see

02:16:54.240 this all right reasons to so old you'll be a stay-at-home husband all right yeah your name

02:17:04.480 next name from me if that helps is it off tiktok yet well it should be video still right

02:17:14.720 oh you're pulling pictures of me too yeah yeah the video go ahead

02:17:17.760 no audio

02:17:26.160 so you want is your boyfriend or no you have a husband yeah we're married

02:17:30.000 is he stay-at-home husband yeah he takes all my content

02:17:35.840 okay okay what the hell is your dad still your biggest supporter oh no yikes

02:17:43.280 oh next and then you did it again so okay your dad passed he did he died in december

02:17:50.240 is it the same one a little maybe a little insensitive with the urn though is that actually

02:17:56.400 his it is ashes yes wait i don't get why it's insensitive it is my dad she can decide how did

02:18:04.400 he die suicide illness well okay play the next one and then x out of the ones we already showed

02:18:11.920 okay play it if it helps he's not in that he's not in you made a smaller urn no we have an empty

02:18:20.080 smaller urn that was going to go to his family don't you think it's a little uh insensitive a

02:18:26.320 little insensitive to who though because it was my dad yeah yeah but it was my dad

02:18:31.680 laughter is the best medicine for example let's say it wasn't ashes and it was just the body but

02:18:37.440 you're you're the son right okay or the daughter okay can you desecrate a corpse just because it's how

02:18:44.560 am i desecrating well no but i'm not saying you're desecrating it but it's you know it's a little

02:18:51.840 well i also think you have to know my dad go to a graveyard and be like doing a i would shoot

02:19:01.280 because you don't know my dad my dad loved doing these videos he loved it he thought it was hilarious

02:19:08.000 send the asteroid that'd be amazing if he didn't but no he loved it like he loved doing it when

02:19:12.480 when you're in a cemetery you have to observe a certain level of what's the word not somebody

02:19:20.320 help me with the word it's evading me smoke well the thing is he's not in a cemetery though decorum

02:19:25.760 thank you holly so if yeah i wouldn't dance in front of other people's dead parents but why can't

02:19:31.360 i dance in front of my own dead parents okay if i was at the cemetery going to my grandmother's

02:19:36.640 grave i wouldn't do it near people i saw and i saw some chick even if she's like

02:19:43.200 fucking a hundred graves down doing shooting some content i'd be like

02:19:50.960 i would probably walk over there and be like fuck you you should leave but it is a free country so i

02:19:58.000 could do that uh you could i mean the but also we're arguing a hypothetical because he is not in a

02:20:03.920 grave and there's no other people no i know but like i'm trying to get at this idea of like when

02:20:07.920 it comes to remains i do feel like there is a line you know yeah but like like i get it's it's

02:20:16.560 your dad's remains and you're in possession of his remains but i feel like there's a line it is and he

02:20:23.360 loved being in tiktoks he loved me posting them he watched like he did watch all my tiktoks he thought it

02:20:30.320 was funny he thought saying funny stuff was funny he enjoyed it he died out of nowhere

02:20:37.440 he enjoyed it i don't see anything wrong with that yo dpg thing hold on for some reason here i have to

02:20:44.240 do it manually is the audio all the way up yo brian what's up brother it's jungle f you'll see me as dpg

02:20:51.440 thing from now on as i'm a streamer shout out to the ladies on the panel be nice brian he's a good

02:20:56.800 man a true scholar w show uh this is a champagne pop so we'll pop champagne yo dude jungle good to

02:21:03.760 see you back in the chat man you're a legend thank you so much dude and uh let's see oh you okay so

02:21:10.640 now he's changed hey let me give you a little shout out guys are you on twitch what's your username on

02:21:15.600 twitch i tuned into your stream a while ago if it's dpg thing oh did you get did you take the thing off

02:21:22.000 no wait why is it like this wait wait wait okay please don't point it hold on okay you gotta be

02:21:31.760 really careful with this one this is already open this is here here don't open it here don't need to

02:21:39.840 come in here those things will take a fucking eye out oh yeah okay just toss that one all right

02:21:46.720 so i'm just don't want any okay well uh good conversation there so um what about uh

02:21:58.400 okay the ashes i guess i don't know what does the panel think anybody want to weigh in laughter's the

02:22:03.600 best medicine that's fine and it's not like like at least with what i believe is that that's not her

02:22:10.320 like that's that's the earth part of her dad but soul's gone so it's not like and she wasn't doing

02:22:15.680 anything to desecrate it she didn't like piss on them right like she was just dancing with an urn

02:22:21.200 that's cute uh i think in furtherance of promoting her pornographic content even even if it wasn't

02:22:29.040 pornographic like if somebody was just doing that just for like their tick tock or whatever i'd say

02:22:35.200 it'd be weird if her dad was like really not into it when he was alive no my dad loved it i feel

02:22:42.000 like it's kind of just crazy to say that it's wrong when you don't know my dad i think your

02:22:46.080 dad would be okay and also he's dead so who really cares well here's the thing you're you're saying well

02:22:51.680 you don't know my dad but i there's just certain things that i don't know well he would a hundred

02:23:01.680 percent want me to do that did he tell you that yeah well when he was dying in the hospital bed next to

02:23:07.760 me he told me why aren't you making tick tocks so yeah i think that's a pre-written permission yeah

02:23:14.000 yeah like i sat with him why he died and he asked me why aren't you making tick tocks and working right

02:23:18.800 now yo chat what do you guys think chat what do you so i just i don't think like i can totally

02:23:26.080 understand your point and why it looks that way and i understand why people hate it

02:23:29.520 it but my dad really did love it and i like doing it with my dad too i think tragedy and

02:23:36.880 comedy are two sides of the same coin and i think yeah laughter please go ahead oh yes and

02:23:43.680 laughter is the best medicine so i think um yeah doing something like that in good taste for your

02:23:48.320 own tragedy is i think it is tasteful and it's individual to you yeah i mean i'm the one who had

02:23:54.080 to go through it so yeah and every family has different values like i know my grandpa he would

02:23:58.720 like turn on his grave if i did it but like i think it's fun that you guys have that type of

02:24:02.640 relationship yeah we have a very like unserious family oh my god dude hold the bottle and then apply

02:24:10.720 pressure and counter like literally doing it but you're going back and forth just go in one direction

02:24:16.480 do you need me just kidding you need muscle yeah it's true i will break it right

02:24:27.360 i fucking hate these bottles bro

02:24:33.600 oh oh there we go okay oh my goodness all right

02:24:40.720 where were we we were talking about the urn and tick tock six socks and urns

02:24:52.720 uh here i got some messages in canada because of the birth rate crisis and worker shortage the

02:24:56.880 government brought in thousands of foreigners from the middle east now they almost run almost

02:25:00.800 everything even door dash that's from pasty george yep there's a lot of immigration in canada

02:25:05.440 davon jackson if my daughter who has every hole of hers on the internet was prancing my ashes in

02:25:10.720 front of her gooner audience for views if my soul was still intact it would shred to pieces well you

02:25:17.360 weren't my dad so congratulations even if even if like my dad gave me permission to do it i still

02:25:26.640 wouldn't do it my dad enjoyed it i don't know there's something that it just it doesn't rub me the

02:25:33.680 right way i think it's totally fine okay cool i mean i don't i don't it's not your dead dad so at

02:25:42.480 the end of the day uh everybody here is over 21 right yes everybody wants champagne i don't drink

02:25:49.760 no no yes i'll take one yes yes holly do you want some okay so six cups total wait i'm not gonna use

02:25:58.720 these here's what we're gonna do we're gonna do a segment really quick where i'm gonna open this up

02:26:08.480 to debate from the audience i'm gonna put in members only mode i'm gonna read uh so mary you're

02:26:15.840 gonna go on live segment and we're gonna pull them up okay in stream yard yeah are we just debating my

02:26:24.320 my father is that what the debate is the the chat we're doing a segment where the chat actually gets

02:26:29.920 to make the arguments okay cool so we're gonna pull up some of them so if you're a member you get to

02:26:35.200 actually debate this uh sorry guys i'm like multitasking a million things pass it down please

02:26:45.440 okay okay members so if we need to see like a couple sentences you can make your argument or

02:27:02.480 well maybe one or two or three sentences my dad was 57 for the person who asked that

02:27:06.880 uh we can't by the way you got to pull it up too oh i'm good take take it nick oh sorry thank you

02:27:16.480 um wait one's for nothing oh you said you wanted one did she not say she won

02:27:23.920 jacked like huh i thought holly i thought you wanted oh nick you want some here all right nick is

02:27:33.520 getting some there you go uh okay let's do a quick cheers cheers to jungle or as he is now going he's

02:27:41.680 going by what was it was dpg dpg wait hold on i don't want dpg thing all right uh cheers to

02:27:54.000 ashes cheers cheers to my dead dad

02:28:02.880 okay so i'll just have to pull it up then all right you guys get to make the arguments

02:28:09.760 we have the one who knocks he says i don't care how old your dad was you're a horrible person but

02:28:14.720 it sounds like your father was oh okay that was that was a little rough i get these comments every

02:28:20.000 single day of my life this is somebody's father guys who's me uh oh this is this is my mom jenny

02:28:26.160 lenny i think these mfers that are saying he okay that are judging her without knowing her are disgust

02:28:34.320 disgusting and small-minded a-holes okay damn okay there's some brutal maybe this is i get really

02:28:42.960 really really horrible comments so they don't really affect me but i do get quite a lot

02:28:49.840 what

02:28:56.960 what um in my personal opinion i don't think you can preach or hold any disdain toward her values if

02:29:03.920 you're going to say something like that in the comment section right for real like if you have

02:29:07.840 values and honor don't say that it's a little distasteful but if he would have been okay with

02:29:11.440 it then i don't see a problem and i can agree with you that it is distasteful and i don't josh

02:29:16.080 brooks says you're supposed to let the dead rest in peace you dolt okay well he didn't want to die

02:29:20.880 and he didn't want to rest in peace he wanted to make tiktoks why do you think it's respectful

02:29:26.480 to show camel toe while holding your dad's urn because i have a big vagina what i can't wear yoga pants

02:29:33.600 all right uh okay he is shooting his shot thanks for the super chat there uh let's see

02:29:41.360 by the way if you we're gonna obviously there's a lot of chats coming through we're gonna miss some of

02:29:45.280 them so just copy and paste if we are missing it i guess uh does she think we'd live in a better

02:29:51.600 society if every man held the same standards for their daughter okay no uh there's a lot of super

02:29:58.720 chats coming through we might have to hold those until after oh my god it's kind of dark humor some

02:30:04.000 people seem to like it don says death is no longer sacred in the modern world uh grief is personal

02:30:13.360 but dancing on tiktok with your dad's ash ashes feels more like a grab for attention than a tribute

02:30:18.800 so i think it's both so my job is to get attention online so i am aware of that concept and that is why

02:30:25.840 i posted it okay but at the same time my father also loved to do it so i don't feel it's that bad

02:30:35.280 there's a line between honoring someone and exploiting their memory some moments deserve

02:30:39.360 privacy and respect not a public stage or viral trend wasn't a viral trend it got like a hundred

02:30:44.560 thousand views as chris rock said the father is one job is to keep his daughter off the pole

02:30:51.040 uh delta echo this is the biggest cup i've ever seen typical california family you're not

02:30:56.560 from georgia she's from she's from the south she's from the south uh look at her smile

02:31:03.440 unremorseful i have no remorse she didn't anything wrong i don't uh your father was being supportive

02:31:09.760 because he loved you doesn't mean what you're doing is morally right respect okay

02:31:14.320 josh brooks says this it was actually a severely traumatic event but if you've ever been through

02:31:24.000 trauma you know that you can deal with that differently than just crying i feel if i was

02:31:29.520 just crying on the internet about my dad dying forever that i would get hated on that as well

02:31:34.880 okay all right let's see if there's any final call if anybody wants to make an argument

02:31:40.320 uh your mom is not enjoying some of the comments uh let's see here sending you love jenny she's

02:31:49.120 watching she's watching yeah maybe you should turn this off turn it off all right well that's an

02:31:54.480 interesting experiment all right there's a bunch of chats that came through that we need to get caught

02:31:58.720 up on uh going back as far as like seven like 10 minutes ago um i'm gonna read the super chats amidst

02:32:08.080 your feminist gender studies prattle you're missing the elephant in the room there are four of

02:32:13.040 workers on the panel 10 of women between the age of 18 to 25 are on of gen z gals aren't exactly the

02:32:19.680 bringer home to mom caliber that's from lucas anybody feel like responding to that what's the percentage

02:32:26.640 of men that are subscribers to of though because like what if women don't want to date men that are

02:32:32.320 right and where does the 10 percent yeah where is that from too and honestly there's a lot of

02:32:37.440 amazing women out there with great values of integrity and all in their own personhood and i

02:32:44.080 think that you have to check where you're looking there's also women even if we believe his statistic

02:32:49.520 and it is 10 of women in that age group are on of and that's not your jam and that's not what you

02:32:54.880 want to date totally fine by you there's 90 of other women in that age group there's horrible women that

02:33:00.880 like i guess like people would like look at me like oh you're amazing because you make this much

02:33:04.720 and you have a real job and like a degree or two or whatever but like you're gonna idealize that but

02:33:10.400 you don't know how they really are behind the scenes yeah and again ultimately we have free will as

02:33:15.120 human beings so you can choose who you want to date if you don't like somebody move on go get somebody

02:33:19.120 else plenty of fish in the sea okay all right we have another chat from lucas here furthermore and

02:33:26.320 your anecdotal outlier claims notwithstanding it would be embarrassing for a high-level professional

02:33:31.120 man to introduce you within polite society which ironically enough chair one is exactly where the

02:33:37.600 men you desire navigate exactly that's what my point is oh big giga chat here hold on

02:33:47.520 there it is thank you again for the champagne pop man really really appreciate it yes sir dpg thing on

02:33:53.680 everything chair eight be nice say hello that's you oh hi uh brian is right i'm a legend love the

02:34:04.480 show bro keep on keeping on hey thank you so much for the massive super chat guys w's in the chat

02:34:09.840 for uh dp dpg thing the artist formerly known as jungle f uh w's in the chat for dpg thank you so much

02:34:19.600 man looking flying those aviators thank you dude big big five hundred dollars soup chat

02:34:25.120 fucking legend wait i gotta play this too hold on oh it's not gonna play wait damn the

02:34:30.400 fucking our our obs is all fucked i don't know what happened um anyways uh thank you so much man we have

02:34:37.120 jenny here uh oh we already read that one okay all right uh we got some members who join thank you

02:34:46.320 guys for joining up appreciate it hit the join button if you want to become a member and then

02:34:50.400 the rest i'll just let you uh pull up all right okay let's get back into the show notes we where were

02:34:58.160 we i don't even know we're talking about we pulled up videos all her videos okay did you x out of all

02:35:04.480 those videos okay we have a video from her let's pull that one up it should be the first one i don't

02:35:11.840 know what it was it the one we saw earlier do you have it uh no audio just play it

02:35:29.760 play it pov your parents fully supported your goth phase under the condition that you let them take

02:35:37.120 pictures to laugh at when you're an adult

02:35:48.240 damn that is my favorite photo

02:35:51.040 i can feel the x out of that and then we had fedora at the ocean we had two tweets two tweets

02:35:58.400 let's oh my twitter's nuts oh goodness it could say anything oh okay yeah this one

02:36:05.680 uh twenty percent of married dudes cheat where do you get where do you get that stat from since

02:36:10.880 we're talking about stats i don't remember where i looked it up but i know i looked it up before i

02:36:14.880 posted this uh twenty percent of men leave their wives when she becomes chronically you know that

02:36:21.440 that study was retracted i know just from friends and family who work in hospital settings and who work

02:36:27.840 in chronic care that is something where they have to like sit the woman down when she's diagnosed and

02:36:33.280 actually prepare them on what to do when their husband leaves them because it happens so often

02:36:39.600 yeah except the studies on that that's anecdotal uh all the studies that they've done on that

02:36:45.760 well the one in particular that's often cited that i believe you're citing there it was retracted

02:36:50.400 because they made multiple errors in how they coded the study all right well then i'll have to look more

02:36:55.440 into that but speaking anecdotally from the people that i know that work in that type of care

02:37:00.240 it's incredibly common so you're saying in these institutions these healthcare institutions there's

02:37:04.960 a policy where they sit down the the wife and if she has a spouse or whatever they tell her by the

02:37:11.680 way there's a risk your husband's going to leave you so there's a gendered policy on this there is

02:37:16.560 yeah there's a support staff member that will come in and we'll talk to them about women though

02:37:20.480 there's support staff that comes in for both but one of the talking points specifically for the women

02:37:24.640 is to usher them through that point of change that's sexist but we don't see it happen with men

02:37:31.600 yes we don't we don't see that happen like we do i've never happened in the history of humanity of

02:37:36.720 course a woman divorced her of course it has husband who has cancer but i'm saying the frequency

02:37:41.520 is not what evidence do you have for the claim just again i'm only going off of the study that

02:37:47.360 apparently was retracted i haven't seen that and then anecdotal evidence

02:37:51.200 i mean i know women who have gotten chronically ill and then their partner has left them i don't

02:37:57.200 know of any man that has gotten chronically ill and then has been left they usually get married in

02:38:02.560 my experience yeah i mean this this is something that happens both ways of course in some regard but

02:38:09.520 i think it's skewed one way over the other well it seems like women overwhelmingly end relationships

02:38:15.040 so this idea that men are these evil devilish dogs who i didn't say that that seems to be the

02:38:21.600 implication no i was responding to something in that tweet uh and i i can't i'm not going to quote

02:38:27.840 exactly what it was but i remember somebody saying like women are the ones that break up families or

02:38:32.720 something or women are always the ones that like destroy families and so that's why i quoted the fact

02:38:38.640 that 94 of family annihilators are men which is true and then the other stats in there i love men

02:38:44.720 i genuinely do and i'm not saying that they're evil but i'm saying they're not innocent either

02:38:48.560 do we have the study i think it's pulled up in one of the tabs

02:38:54.400 do you have it make it bigger please a widely reported study suggesting divorce is more likely

02:39:01.200 when wives fall ill gets axed and this is from retraction watch uh is invalid thanks to short string

02:39:09.120 of mistaking mistaken coding that negates the original conclusions published in the march issue

02:39:14.480 of the journal of health and social behavior uh so anyways i mean so then what was the updated

02:39:20.320 conclusion i'm not sure oh but so we don't have the updated stat could be 19 yeah it could be it could

02:39:27.920 be ten it could be five but regardless i suppose um and then pull the tweet back up though

02:39:33.600 oh hold on we have a tts coming through or it's not a tts because it's broken i just have to read it

02:39:39.520 thanks to feminism women are more masculine than ever broadly speaking emotions that aren't anger

02:39:44.960 are usually considered feminine to the panel what does modern masculinity mean to you yeah we can just

02:39:50.240 move on to that uh go ahead starting chairman wait what was the question again um what does modern

02:39:56.320 masculinity mean to you what does it mean to me i don't know someone that is very in tuned with their

02:40:03.760 natural instincts and thinks that's how men are supposed to live like and be and i'm not saying

02:40:09.520 like men in the past 50 years like men their actual nature before this whole surface level stuff

02:40:18.240 like what we're actually here for before like the the jobs and like the actual purpose of men

02:40:25.440 that would be someone that is like actually masculine for me we're just going through each yeah

02:40:32.640 so what do you think uh i think many things can be masculine i think it doesn't have to just be

02:40:41.520 your like you know like the biology of like men need to provide and men need to hunt or whatever it

02:40:48.160 was or like i think a masculine men could stay home with kids personally but i think it's kind of just

02:40:56.400 i don't think it's that kind of dry i think masculine like i think modern masculinity is the

02:41:02.160 same as archetypal masculinity where it's like the strength is seen as more masculine but then also

02:41:10.480 i think when you look at things more analytically instead of on the emotional side i think that's

02:41:16.000 considered masculine i think it still is protection which again is like strength yeah

02:41:21.600 i don't think the definitions changed i think maybe people in our society exhibit them in different

02:41:27.760 degrees but i don't think it's changed

02:41:29.920 um i would say that i watched a brilliant movie the other night on about desmond dos has anybody

02:41:37.280 heard of him before okay um basically he saved like 75 people during one of the during the world

02:41:43.920 war ii i believe and i think he's a great example of masculinity in general having high integrity high

02:41:50.000 emotional intelligence courage unapologetic about himself and his values and is sworn to a higher purpose

02:41:57.920 than himself yeah i really resonate with um what uh both the previous ladies said because i think

02:42:06.240 masculinity in its definition hasn't really changed over time and i also think of course there's the

02:42:11.840 differentiation between toxic masculinity versus healthy and so the rigid definition being that men

02:42:18.320 need to be providers or to be physically strong or stoic i don't think that is beneficial and that

02:42:24.160 doesn't behoove relationships so i think a healthier version of masculinity could be a man who has the

02:42:29.920 desire to take care of his loved ones but is still in touch with his emotions and is able to be mature

02:42:36.480 and emotionally intelligent and in tune with his soft side because i think all human beings we have a mix of

02:42:42.320 masculine and feminine polarities and so a healthy man to me is someone who is not 100 strictly masculine but

02:42:48.960 is comfortable with um adopting qualities and facets of sort of both archetypes so what do you think

02:42:55.840 draws the line between healthy masculinity and toxic masculinity yeah i think it's it's not for me to

02:43:03.040 decide because i think that can be arbitrary but when i see toxic masculine discourse or diatribe on the

02:43:09.760 internet oftentimes it's either attacking certain types of people or attacking certain behaviors or overall

02:43:17.200 being more inflammatory or just having a very strict agenda in mind because i think flexibility and

02:43:23.520 fluidity is very important in relationships and in human dynamics so for me the big differentiator is

02:43:29.120 just um how rigid are you in your thinking and how strictly are you trying to enforce your beliefs on

02:43:34.640 other people because if you i i believe that the healthier mindset that you have typically the more

02:43:40.880 accepting you are just to hear other people out and to look at different mindsets that are different from your own

02:43:47.200 um oh i was gonna say i completely agree with you i feel like also social media has like skewed our

02:43:53.680 idea of masculinity like for me i want a man that's going to make me feel safe and support me but not

02:43:58.800 like financially per se just somebody that like i can come home to and also i think like biologically

02:44:03.840 like we're all equal but we're also not like men i believe are more logical that's like like what do you

02:44:09.600 call it like first and then we're more like nurturing there's like so many other ones but like at the end of

02:44:14.400 the day like we're still on the same level there's just like when we think about things there's like

02:44:18.000 certain aspects of a situation that they're gonna focus on differently than we will even like if we

02:44:23.040 do have the same like beliefs um so i just want somebody that will like make me feel safe and like

02:44:28.960 supports me and just open-minded like yeah like isn't gonna like attack women for being women and

02:44:34.960 like i just believe we all have like what's the word trying to think of like our duties in a

02:44:40.880 relationship or just as like men and women and we should be able to like i can't even think of the

02:44:46.560 word right now damn oh my god i cannot think i think trump brings masculinity back trump is on fire

02:44:59.200 you go to his rallies those men are men there's more men enlisting in the army of the military

02:45:08.480 everything down the line um the guy's brilliant he's put a fire on i've gone to the charlie kirk rallies

02:45:16.080 where those guys are just dynamic the group of people that he's about i mean it's like i wanted to

02:45:24.720 be i can't handle wussy california skipping liberal boys i want a man's man i want a protector and a

02:45:33.920 provider and trump has done that across the he's done that across the world if you saw what he's

02:45:41.760 done through the uh middle east and the whole bit everybody's cheerleading him and don't worry about

02:45:46.960 canada because it's going to be the 51st state soon we're going to save their asses please do we are

02:45:54.400 i'm serious no more fairy boys you know and hallelujah to president trump we pray for you daily

02:46:01.840 president trump you are magnificent president trump and we thank you for saving our country and saving

02:46:12.000 our men because you look at trump look at how many brilliant women he has working for him on his team

02:46:20.720 those women are so dynamic he doesn't go against women yeah blonde one and blonde two with fake

02:46:27.520 tits one and fake tits two so many dynamic women well that's hot what's fake here why can't people do

02:46:34.720 i think i'm the only one with fake tits here baby well what's so what's wrong with that i'm saying he

02:46:39.360 doesn't have dynamic women he has one type that he's faked it that's not true well yes sarah huckabee

02:46:45.840 sanders who looks like me was ugly as shit but that's not he didn't have any other ones i think

02:46:52.240 those all of his women are capable women like i i think they're capable women capable of what reading

02:46:59.280 from a teleprompter and leading the country leading in what what woman is leading right now christy

02:47:05.280 gnome you think that she's okay she's i'm arguing with a wall i don't care if she's beautiful she's

02:47:12.240 not dynamic or leading okay i thought you were like supportive of only fans girls and all this nudity

02:47:18.080 that's a perfect example of someone that is like literally kind of like

02:47:22.720 me no yeah his his wife like he's like his wife is fine i love that i've seen my first lady's bush that

02:47:29.280 rocks oh i love his wife i'm not saying that there's anything wrong with only fans girls or anything

02:47:34.000 of the sort i'm saying let's not champion trump like he's got a dynamic range of women working

02:47:38.800 in the white house okay all of his women are exceptional sure and he's given him leadership

02:47:46.080 roles yes i've i agree with that he's also given like a 19 year old a leadership role

02:47:51.440 a 19 year old who's the 22 year old no there's uh someone who's leading i forget the cabinet name

02:47:58.960 doge it's not doge no the guy who are you talking about the defense guy who was a grocery store clerk

02:48:05.600 what's that yes he worked at a supermarket and now he's like head of he's leading i forget the name

02:48:11.760 of the department so i don't want to butcher it but like come on now what you're saying that

02:48:19.200 fdt but we'll make an example if you know if trump is supporting masculine men and yet he's cutting

02:48:28.640 funding to to the va to medicare to medicaid he has it's in the big beautiful bill baby it just

02:48:36.640 passed go to congress.gov you can see it he's cut usa you know what usa does he's cut a lot of things

02:48:44.560 he cut usa sure and he also cut that was many laundry okay he also did kind of va i bet you believe

02:48:54.000 in pizzagate too i do believe okay well then we're moving on because i can't argue with a brick

02:49:00.560 i'm not a brick it's truth and if you can't handle the truth yes okay she can handle the truth she's

02:49:07.040 doing it fine what's the number one commodity worldwide what do you mean

02:49:14.640 what's the number one commodity worldwide go ahead and tell me no i'm asking you and i'm asking you go

02:49:21.120 ahead and tell me what's the number one commodity worldwide trafficking okay and i'm sure that they

02:49:27.280 were selling children underneath the pizza's parlor trump went to epstein island like 19 times

02:49:33.840 he didn't he never went all right again i'm arguing with a brick and i'm not gonna do that i feel like

02:49:38.480 i'm talking with my old neighbor never happened well what do you feel about elon musk saying that it

02:49:43.120 did happen yeah his boy because his best he did go on twitter and there's photos what do you mean

02:49:49.920 there's photos of that hanging out with jeffrey epstein never would have made president if it did

02:49:55.760 well can i just say that um elon and trump definitely had a very public breakup they did have a public

02:50:01.920 breakout public it did rule it did who who here would date uh a trump supporter show show of hands

02:50:10.960 no no no no no no you wouldn't date a trump your boyfriend he's a kamala voter or he did vote for

02:50:19.920 kamala yes your or husband your husband voted for kamala my active duty manly man husband yes okay all

02:50:26.800 right got some uh who voted for kamala did you vote no you vote you're a trump supporter you just

02:50:34.480 wouldn't date a trump supporter i didn't vote period into the mic i didn't vote period okay who uh so

02:50:44.160 you're are you a trump supporter or no i'm not a trump supporter who did you vote for i didn't vote this

02:50:48.960 time this time all right trump who did you vote for kamala i was out of state so i couldn't vote

02:50:56.800 i was out of the country i couldn't vote kamala i'm in canada it doesn't matter

02:51:03.600 uh we have a message here pacy george chair three real evidence and statistics are key not

02:51:08.640 anecdotal hearsay imagine if courts allowed such nonsense yes your honor it happened because i said

02:51:13.760 so without factual evidence lol they took my phone how am i supposed to look it up literally i

02:51:21.040 took my cell phone and i didn't know i was gonna have miss maga on the panel i didn't prepare for

02:51:26.480 that part i thought we were just talking about what are some of the other reacts that we have

02:51:32.880 huh the next week sure oh yeah god it could say anything hide the super chat uh put us on the

02:51:39.840 other side please uh men like women who are inconvenient and make them here you read it in

02:51:45.920 your own voice men like women who are inconvenient and make them work for their attention the sexiest

02:51:50.480 thing that you can be is busy put this in the corner i guess um actually whatever uh why do you

02:51:56.320 think that men don't like it's it's always kind of like a game of chase men tend to be a little bit

02:52:02.320 more avoidant than women but people always want what they can't have they like having something to work

02:52:07.440 for so i know guys who have said that they don't think that women have hobbies which is not true but

02:52:14.880 i know a lot of women who kind of just shrink themselves in their hobbies and center a man in

02:52:18.400 their life and that's that's needy that's chasing nobody likes to be back up really quick

02:52:28.480 men like women who are inconvenient and make them work for their attention the sexiest thing you can be

02:52:32.720 is busy do you want somebody who's just i'm here i'm here when are you going to date me yeah take me

02:52:36.800 on a date well take me on a date you're painting an extreme case here uh so pull it back up one

02:52:44.000 more time just want to make sure i have okay inconvenient and being busy so i disagree with

02:52:50.000 both those claims i don't think men want a woman who makes things inconvenient and that is your

02:52:56.240 position right yeah it's in it's in inconvenience to attempt to hang out with you and you being busy

02:53:01.760 so you're it's difficult to make plans uh no that's nobody likes anything that's way too easy

02:53:07.840 and way too available maybe you guys as women but no i'm talking from men every i'm i'm in two

02:53:15.360 male-dominated industries most of my friends are guys most of the people that i talk to are guys

02:53:19.760 of your friends comedians a lot of them are comedians and a lot of them are also just working

02:53:24.000 in television that's okay also primarily mostly friends with liberal men or no most comics are not liberal

02:53:31.200 um so i got a mix but yeah both of them are both liberal and conservative friends of mine

02:53:37.600 it's they're all they get they get the ick so to speak if a woman is way too available let me ask you

02:53:43.440 this if if it was going in one direction or the other so perhaps there's let's say there's a happy

02:53:48.320 medium but if it had to lean air more on one side or the other you think men would prefer a woman who's

02:53:54.880 too available or a woman who's not available enough not available enough just get people

02:54:00.000 for that men and women i think people just in nature you want what you can't have you like

02:54:05.040 working for something women i think it's the case for both no i so i think this idea and this is

02:54:11.360 really something that that i think women do quite frequently this idea that you want to play hard to

02:54:16.240 get if you play hard to get you quickly become hard to want so yeah that's how my mom got her ring

02:54:23.840 that's how i got mine that's that's my mom's biggest advice to me when it went into dating

02:54:29.760 she was like just play hard to get she played hard to get with my dad and he proposed in like four

02:54:35.040 months i think you want to be hard i'm not saying that it's an impossibility but this idea that this

02:54:42.160 is like a good advice to give somebody when it comes to dating the first time i ever played hard to

02:54:46.800 get was when i got a ring so is that your yeah he's dead past yeah so you guys were engaged yeah

02:54:54.640 okay but are you saying had you not played hard to get like he just would have not been into you

02:55:01.760 i think that's really what drove it ultimately because he was very like avoidant initially and

02:55:06.880 he was seeing a bunch of very beautiful women and we connected more as friends first and then it just

02:55:13.280 kind of built like that but then i i made myself less and less available and then he started chasing

02:55:17.360 so just to be clear the foundation of your relationship was based on you playing a game

02:55:22.320 no i mean it quite literally you were it wasn't a game how was it not a game it was me saying okay i'm

02:55:29.360 not going to throw all of my eggs in this basket i'm not going to make myself too available i'm going

02:55:33.840 to play a little hard to get and i'm going to just play hard to get so you're playing a figure of

02:55:37.920 speech i'm going to make myself i'm going to make myself less readily available i'm not going to drop

02:55:43.200 everything when he comes and yeah let's say you were free yeah say it was a monday hey are you free

02:55:50.560 on thursday or friday and you are free but you tell them you're not i wouldn't do that so okay what

02:55:56.400 in what ways would you not make yourself available i'm very rarely free i'm saying i wouldn't make

02:56:00.400 myself available in that okay i have something scheduled with a friend that i'm going to dinner with a

02:56:05.360 friend and he's like do you want to hang out that night i'm not going to cancel on that friend

02:56:09.280 but i'll tell you when i am available well that seems perfectly normal i wouldn't categorize that

02:56:15.920 as being hard to get that's just respecting that's respecting your pre-existing commitments

02:56:21.760 to hang out with somebody else yeah but anxiously attached people which is tends to be the attachment

02:56:27.200 style more for women than anybody will go ahead and cancel those plans i was anxiously attached

02:56:32.560 beforehand we'll make themselves too that's making yourself too available is prioritizing that

02:56:37.840 person and waiting around for them and just trying to fixate them as the center of your world

02:56:43.600 yeah but i wouldn't even categorize if you have a pre-existing plan and you hold to those plans

02:56:50.480 despite like perhaps another plan manifesting that might be better there's this guy you really like

02:56:58.240 i wouldn't categorize that as like playing hard to get or making yourself intentionally unavailable

02:57:08.400 you were just as a statement of fact unavailable yeah we have different definitions for playing hard to

02:57:15.680 get evidently okay but pull it back up the tweet again the sexiest thing you can be is busy yeah

02:57:23.360 men like women with hobbies and a whole life outside of them and if you don't god bless but i think the

02:57:28.880 reality is i i think if the woman is too on top of you like perhaps i can see the angle there but i can

02:57:39.440 just as easily say that if i've made multiple attempts to hang out with you and you're making it difficult

02:57:46.800 for me to actually make that happen i just lose interest there's other options on to the next one

02:57:53.520 yeah so i can guarantee you you as women there are men who are gonna that you're interested in

02:57:59.120 and look if you're genuinely busy you're genuinely busy but there are going to be scenarios where the

02:58:05.280 dude's just going to move on so this idea that the guy's going to perpetually chase you i didn't

02:58:09.680 say that i'm saying you're potentially going to miss out on a dude if you're not at least attempt i'm not

02:58:16.160 saying you got to turn your life upside down for a guy but i think it it actually shows a degree of

02:58:21.520 effort to make an attempt to make yourself available yeah i'm not saying you got to cancel pre-existing

02:58:26.320 plans yeah but if you're impossible to schedule something with i'm not waiting around for you i'm

02:58:32.400 on to the next one i think you're misunderstanding what i'm saying i'm not saying be impossible to get

02:58:36.960 a hold of but i'm saying be busy don't be and that's just you should be busy you should have things

02:58:42.880 occupying your time and you shouldn't be canceling them for him so it shouldn't be every single time

02:58:48.560 he texts you and he wants to see you you're available because you should have shit going on

02:58:51.920 in your life but would you prescriptively tell a woman like let's say she's not busy i would say get

02:58:58.080 busy but would you tell her but let's say she's not would you say well create the the air that you

02:59:04.400 are busy you're just staying at home i would say get actually busy you need to have actual hobbies or

02:59:11.120 interests or passions or something that would be my advice and that's my advice for men too

02:59:16.640 and i'm saying like with the people that i've worked with and knowing people on the upper end

02:59:22.480 of society they're there unless they've had you know generational wealth and then they're not dating

02:59:28.640 like any of us are dating as it is but the people who are successful and who have made a lot of money

02:59:34.080 they're going to be busy and they don't want somebody who's just nagging at them and trying to get

02:59:38.000 their attention yeah but i don't think i don't think it's as a woman you're either really really

02:59:43.760 busy and you're going to have to occasionally tell a guy that you're not free or you're just

02:59:51.200 really really on him like i think there's a medium so i don't know this idea that okay just be busy

02:59:58.400 i don't know when i wrote that it was because i was talking to a friend who is not busy ever and

03:00:05.680 she's just like i can't i i she invests her everything her time her energy her money everything

03:00:12.000 into the dude she dates and then they don't stick around and i was like yeah because you made him the

03:00:16.880 center of your whole world you gave him everything all your energy you can't do that you got to give

03:00:20.960 you your energy do your passions and the things that you love and that make up your life make a full

03:00:25.440 fulfilling life because otherwise you might as well date them the little ladies that you got in the

03:00:32.080 corner if you want them to be hot and ready oh that's little caesar's not rb slogan damn if you

03:00:36.800 want them to have the meats go to this lady i mean there's just scenarios where when you're trying to

03:00:43.680 actually move thing move something forward with somebody and they basically make it really really

03:00:51.840 difficult they make it a pain in the ass to actually get on that date hey some guys might stick around

03:00:57.600 i think a lot of guys are just going to move on to somebody who's a bit more available no what do

03:01:02.160 you consider a pain in the ass just so i know where you're coming from it's like uh i'm trying to think

03:01:07.200 of an example like i might want to see you sometime within the next month would be nice and some people

03:01:14.720 are booked up the entire month that's crazy yeah move on to somebody else yeah if if you are booking a

03:01:20.240 month out god bless you sound like you have a very fulfilling life dating's probably not for you you

03:01:26.480 don't have the time for it yeah they have to be emotionally available right you have to be

03:01:29.600 emotionally available and you do have to be able to take an appointment within a calendar month yeah

03:01:34.480 i'm not saying be crazy with it but again if the lady if okay imagine your girl that you're talking

03:01:41.680 to all she does all day she doesn't do work she doesn't go to work she doesn't go to school she

03:01:46.800 doesn't do nothing no hobbies she likes to sit in bed and think about me and tick tock and then think

03:01:52.560 about you sign me up i i would love to point you again in the direction to the blow-up dolls that

03:01:58.000 you have in the corner of the studio well i mean so what would you say to women who have a desire to

03:02:02.560 be stay-at-home uh wives wives or mothers both mothers good on you that sounds like a hell of a lot

03:02:11.600 of work wives do you have a farmstead or something or you got to have something in your day if you want

03:02:19.440 to be a stay-at-home wife and your man can afford that and every like that's why those women become

03:02:24.720 the beneficiaries of like charities and they they get on the board with stuff they get involved

03:02:30.000 nobody just take care of the house what's the house gonna do i gotta let some chats come through

03:02:34.560 uh cap sorry for the delay on this you sent this in about five six minutes ago the you call this

03:02:39.600 lovely lady crazy for believing in pizzagate and then bring up uh epstein who did trafficking with

03:02:45.840 our politicians there's nothing in between your ears but hot air is this directed at you or no

03:02:51.760 that's directed at me because i said i was like girl you really think that hillary clinton is hiding

03:02:56.480 children underneath a pizzeria donald trump was photographed with jeffrey epstein and so what

03:03:01.600 wasn't bill clinton also bill clinton is absolutely he is a rapist i'm not denying that oh i'm sorry damn

03:03:07.920 i'm sorry just say yes say my bad go ahead uh yeah no bill clinton is a monster for sure i'm not

03:03:13.920 defending the clintons i don't think that people were hiding children underneath the pizzeria that

03:03:19.840 didn't have a basement just because you don't think it okay doesn't mean it didn't happen right when

03:03:26.480 there's proof what's the proof there's no basement baby they've got all the proof on it who what what

03:03:32.560 proof who's they and what's the proof read it all over i bet i bet you have the fuck all right we

03:03:41.680 have uh dp thing here i got to do this manually i gotta fix this after the show

03:03:50.160 thank you uh eleanor hello back when i come out to cali later this year it's my plan to blow your

03:03:57.600 mind with my incredible psychological aikido let's connect brian lock it in hook it up pass my ig to

03:04:03.920 your left oh wow he's shooting a shot well they're girls girl number three you got uh you what do you

03:04:10.560 think yay or nay do you need more details about them yes all right uh so maybe do you want to share

03:04:20.560 some biographical info age height any anything else you care about um i guess like yeah definitely age

03:04:31.840 location i think that's it right now okay that's it yeah all right i'm open-minded three fun facts

03:04:42.480 uh wait what um okay we have pasty george take note guys chair three is one of the red red flag

03:04:54.240 women you want to avoid nothing but baggage head games and feministic bs they would put their own

03:05:00.320 interests over you and the children yikes do you want kids no no kids no never no you meet the perfect

03:05:07.520 guy he's like hey i want to have kids then he's not the perfect guy okay all right uh farah khalidi

03:05:13.280 i don't know if this is actually farah uh but it's below the threshold farah so unfortunately unless you

03:05:18.480 send it above the threshold you'll have to resubmit if you want lucy to answer your question uh let's see

03:05:25.520 i don't know if that's actually far though it might be somebody else um we're gonna jump to this andrew

03:05:30.080 tate ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten you can't pick seven starting with

03:05:35.520 you uh am i rating what i actually wait okay wait here actually you know what here's how i want to do

03:05:44.960 this anybody here a ten say so okay we're starting with you then what do you rate your looks on a

03:05:54.080 scale of one to ten i would say for myself and for my future husband i'd see myself as a ten

03:05:59.040 what do you mean for your future husband like i think my future husband will see me as a ten

03:06:03.200 other plenty of men out there who might think i'm a two or a three or whatever but me and my

03:06:07.280 future husband will think i'm a ten okay uh you also you wanted to yeah i am i'm pretty much on the

03:06:14.480 same lines i think that i'm a ten in my own like i think i'm beautiful same thing not everybody may

03:06:21.200 think that i'm beautiful and that's fine but i think that i'm beautiful i'm a ten if you don't think

03:06:26.800 that i'm a ten that's your personal opinion i'm cool with that okay uh so now we'll just go around

03:06:32.880 the table starting with you go ahead i'm a five okay

03:06:38.960 go ahead um maybe an eight for myself i guess okay i personally think that i'm a like i see myself as

03:06:49.920 a three i think society probably it's more like five um i'll just i'll say six yeah i feel like

03:06:59.280 that's being kind to myself i think i'm an eight

03:07:06.560 holly i i was a five about a month ago and i think i went down to a three and hopefully by the

03:07:14.560 end of summer i'll be on my way back up okay so we have five eight three ten six eight three ten i

03:07:26.720 give myself a five uh okay oh wait can i say something one sec really quick uh dpg thing um

03:07:41.920 did you want a champagne pop i was a little confused there do you want this i think it's

03:07:45.360 a champagne pop it is a champagne pop we got to honor the champagne pop we got to honor the code

03:07:50.000 but dpg thing you did simp for eleanor do you have a nickname or you go by eleanor

03:07:57.920 my nickname is literally just l n r so online people always spell my name wrong so i always just say just

03:08:05.360 spell it l n r okay but people just call me eleanor why aren't you allowed to pick seven

03:08:13.200 everyone picks seven it's like all right um and then oh dpg you have to pay a sim tax

03:08:22.160 if you simp you got to pay the sim tax you know the rules so i don't know and we also asked for your

03:08:28.240 biographical information so uh in when you respond again specify if you wanted to champagne

03:08:34.800 pop because i know sometimes you're like whatever you don't have to do it but uh you can specify if

03:08:39.440 you want us to pop champagne uh okay so we got some tens here i want to talk to the tens at the

03:08:45.040 table we have some very beautiful women at the table i always every show i manage to get the most

03:08:49.840 beautiful women on the table well don't get ahead of yourself so for the two tens here's what i want

03:08:57.680 to do i want each of you to name another woman preferably like a celebrity who we could look up

03:09:05.040 who it you think is a 10 starting with you we've heard megan fox yeah no i would say like energy

03:09:14.000 matters above all else but if i were just physically then i'd say like angelina jolie she's a 10 angelina

03:09:21.520 jolie let's do and young angelina or current i haven't seen current photos of her let's just do

03:09:28.000 young angelina let's do young

03:09:33.600 so do that okay uh all right okay so there there's young angelina

03:09:44.000 young angelina

03:09:50.000 okay and then what about you who's a female 10.

03:09:53.680 maybe saweetie all right saweetie you know who that is nick yeah she's beautiful

03:10:00.720 who the is that guy you don't know saweetie the singer uh saweetie

03:10:07.040 she's still young maybe like a modern picture she kind of looks like sierra from love island

03:10:16.240 yeah you don't have to put young because she's like 22 i think oh is she i didn't know she's

03:10:21.120 that young she maybe she's not that young but she's young still all right okay so uh

03:10:26.640 you would say you said angelina jolie is a 10 you would say that like you're you're kind of on par with

03:10:35.440 angelina jolie i think we look different and i think sure um i think she's a gorgeous woman i think

03:10:42.560 from a universal standpoint of like if people were just judging her purely based on appearance she would

03:10:48.000 be rated a 10 um or something close to it but everybody has different preferences some people

03:10:52.560 would think she's a two or a three um but like i said for myself and for my future husband i think

03:10:58.240 that i am a 10 and we're just beautiful in our own rights just in different ways

03:11:04.480 okay and then what about you you on par with saweetie honestly we got the same mind because i was

03:11:12.560 thinking the same thing you know like yeah people may think that oh saweetie's way more bomb than me

03:11:18.800 and like that's totally valid but me like the way that i see myself like yeah i am on par i am as bad

03:11:25.840 as saweetie just because like that's just how i see myself and same thing you know i may not be a 10

03:11:31.840 to everybody everyone's entitled to their own opinion but i feel like i'm really secure in my looks where

03:11:38.400 i feel like i can say i'm a 10 and then you were gonna ask something or i think i was gonna add

03:11:45.840 something earlier but that already flew out of my brain it was related to this though right or

03:11:52.240 what's it i don't remember i thought you were like can i say something or whatever okay um

03:11:58.480 oh wait i do remember actually um yeah i just want to say i think everybody on the table should

03:12:04.640 claim themselves as a 10 you know like i feel like how you rate yourself is like

03:12:13.040 i feel like how you rate yourself should be like how you feel about yourself

03:12:16.720 so you know if you feel like you're a 10 then you will be a 10.

03:12:20.400 i mean it was on my looks like i think i don't look like the most perfect human being like when i

03:12:26.640 look at someone i'm like that person is fully perfect i don't feel that and it's okay i'm not

03:12:30.960 saying i want to be that person but i'm logical like that's what i look like so here's the next

03:12:36.080 thing i'd like to do uh name a guy who is a 10 that we can google like looks starting with you

03:12:43.920 so this is a good question um i would say my like childhood crust was like a young chris pine

03:12:48.640 oh my god me too young chris pine okay and then for you man i'm gonna be honest like i'm not really

03:12:56.160 like i don't really think about like celebrities like that um there's no guy you could name honest

03:13:01.520 like good looking the guy that i can name is gojo satoru who he's an anime character

03:13:09.920 it's got a weeb over here i know you're not saying that with all the dragon ball stuff behind me

03:13:16.320 it is true there's a lot of dragon ball statues and yeah but you know that's like mainstream

03:13:22.080 or whatever dragon ball z is like the most popular anime so just because she knows one

03:13:29.440 that's less popular she's like yeah it makes you more of a yeah if you know what anime is your guy

03:13:35.040 from all right that's a little niche it's pretty it's a little niche but it's fine it's kind of

03:13:42.720 popular i guess i think i heard about it like 20 years ago or something uh louise thanks for the

03:13:48.880 gifted 10 memberships okay so young chris pine let's get let's get that pulled up

03:13:56.240 um can you make it bigger oh that works too make it bigger bigger bigger bigger bigger

03:14:04.320 okay all right handsome guy young chris pine uh and then do you want to give us a human or something

03:14:11.840 i can't even think of one um oh let's see attend like just off looks yeah just looks who is what's

03:14:20.720 his name the guy that was in megan the stallion song i think like yuki kaiba or something oh the

03:14:27.120 japanese rapper yeah yeah do you know his name no but he's cute yeah he is pretty cute yeah i don't

03:14:32.640 remember his name though probably just google megan the stallion oh i also think um i think 21 savage is

03:14:40.240 pretty attractive too i know that's not popular but i think he's pretty attractive

03:14:47.600 oh i'm sorry i honestly don't know what either of them look like so this will be

03:14:54.240 we have photos or

03:15:00.400 so he's he's a 10 that's a 10 for you i think he's attractive

03:15:04.240 he's cute so you want me to think i'm a 10 i mean but are you factoring in like his status and his

03:15:11.600 no if we're if we're being honest um he's really funny and that's kind of like well like wait isn't

03:15:19.840 he no he's definitely alive he's definitely alive that was like a big scandal they found out he was

03:15:27.600 secretly british oh yeah yeah sir savage the 21st it was a whole thing he like got he was on the uh

03:15:35.280 risk of being deported or he got detained or something but he's secretly british that's so

03:15:39.920 funny yeah oh i was thinking about that other rapper who was it means juice or x either one

03:15:46.640 either one oh well they're both past yeah i don't i don't listen to rap so i don't know about

03:15:53.600 okay uh that's cool

03:15:59.120 so just to be clear going going for you now uh here let's uh get the split fixed

03:16:13.680 so a woman that you listed as a 10 is angelina jolie here i'm gonna do one

03:16:20.640 fucking thing at a time um and then the guy who you listed as a 10 is chris pine so you say you're

03:16:28.000 on par with uh with angelina jolie and a looks match for you would be chris pine

03:16:36.160 um that's an interesting question again i think that we're all different i'm not i don't know whether

03:16:41.520 or not chris pine would go for me that's his preferences but maybe he would if he could

03:16:48.000 though maybe you're his exact type like if yeah if he thought found me attractive i found him

03:16:52.160 attractive is he watching chris pine at me uh anybody want some more champagne sure that's your cups on

03:16:59.040 back thank you brian can you feel for me actually i'm okay i'm good she's good all right i don't know

03:17:07.040 whose cup that was oh i think that one's mine oh god all bubbly so thoughts thoughts i mean yeah if we

03:17:16.080 if he was into me and he found me as equally attractive as i find him yeah sure okay but do you

03:17:21.920 think that that's your league looks wise i don't necessarily really believe in leagues like i think

03:17:28.080 that you have anything of what i've experienced in life is that the more that i get to know people

03:17:32.880 the more attracted or unattracted that i get to them yes i i think there's obviously more to

03:17:39.680 attraction than just physical attraction but i think you wouldn't deny that physical attraction is

03:17:45.200 very important right yeah physical attraction does play a role in the beginning like that's the instant

03:17:49.760 spark that's the instant attraction but for example i've dated men in the past who i wasn't initially

03:17:54.800 very attracted to and that i would probably put in the quote unquote friend zone but then over time as

03:18:00.080 we developed more emotional intimacy they became more attractive to me and so i don't put look looks to

03:18:06.320 me it's just 10 of the equation i value way more emotional integrity um emotional intelligence and how

03:18:13.440 like what their values are as a person uh i'll get right into that but first uh this was a champagne

03:18:19.440 pop for dpg dpg thank you for the champagne pop you're a legend sir thank you very much appreciate

03:18:24.800 it uh cheers salute it is what i said isn't it bad luck cheers water oh cheers i raised my glass i didn't

03:18:39.360 clink but i raised my glass i don't know um so you don't believe in leagues personally no okay so i have

03:18:46.560 a question for you um do you think people can be unattractive physically do you believe do you

03:18:54.320 believe that people can be beautiful or ugly i would say that there are people that i personally

03:19:00.800 am unattracted to but other people find incredibly attractive uh sure but do you think that i so here's

03:19:08.560 my position i think that beauty is mostly subjective but there are there are objective components to

03:19:16.480 beauty i i don't quite agree with that because again let's take for example what was the woman's

03:19:22.400 name i hate to title her by this the most ugly woman what was her name susan boyle perhaps yeah

03:19:28.560 i'm sorry i don't know her name was the singer singer susan boyle was like known as being like she has

03:19:33.840 like a like a blind eye or something like that yeah yeah so for example for her like she might be

03:19:39.040 objectively not having all of the perfect standards of what a typical beautiful woman would look like skin

03:19:45.520 wise appearance wise um body type etc um but but there are people who are drawn to her like if

03:19:53.200 you look in the comments and i i don't know them personally so i can't speak for them but like

03:19:57.120 that's technically the quote unquote titled most ugly woman in the world and still people are drawn to

03:20:02.080 her so i think it is incredibly subjective more than objective if you look at it from a population

03:20:06.800 standpoint of you do a buzzfeed quiz and have people rate what's attractive and what's not attractive of

03:20:11.360 course if you frame it like that they're going to say the xyz certain characteristics are pulled to

03:20:16.640 be the higher attractive traits but again that doesn't really represent what attraction is really

03:20:23.120 based on which is a person's own personal opinion and their own preferences so you don't think beauty

03:20:28.080 has any impact on people being able to find a partner sometimes too like you might not even find

03:20:35.360 somebody particularly attractive or like they might not be your usual type but then you get in front of

03:20:40.560 them and like you kind of have a little bit of a conversation and the chemistry is so intense

03:20:45.760 that like even if you're not each other's types you're just drawn to each other on a physical level

03:20:50.160 where you wouldn't if you saw a picture of them maybe you wouldn't be attracted to them but then

03:20:54.320 when you're in person there's just something with your physiology and the energy and you're like oh

03:20:58.320 yeah okay they're hot now in front of me they're hot i mean i agree that there are other determining

03:21:04.480 factors that can contribute to no not even getting to know them just like there's an inch you've never

03:21:10.320 had that with somebody where like you see them and then like just you get in the same so i saw a

03:21:15.200 really ugly girl and she just i never talked to her but there was just a vibe in you event you when you

03:21:22.880 get in each other's space so you're going to talk at some point but like have you ever just there

03:21:26.400 would be conversation then but you're you feel the chemistry and the attraction before then chemistry

03:21:31.120 yeah you've never just been drawn to somebody like that yeah i know what you're talking about

03:21:35.360 it's almost like uh it's usually like some some word salad i don't know okay this i don't i don't

03:21:42.640 know there's a whole bunch of things that can make somebody attractive uh probably the primary and the

03:21:46.480 first thing is going to be their physical attractiveness and then there's going to be

03:21:49.760 uh behavioral stuff personality stuff that is going to make or break that initial attraction do you

03:21:55.760 have cat like with i don't sorry to ask but like you're you sex wise do you only engage with people

03:22:03.680 that like you're in a committed relationship with or have you had like flings and stuff like that have

03:22:09.280 you hooked up when i was younger i had a couple flings but i prefer long-term relationships and continuity

03:22:13.680 so but do you did you ever when you were younger have one of those instances where like you just meet

03:22:19.520 somebody and like immediately you can feel there's like a palpable sexual chemistry uh yeah but it

03:22:28.640 there's typically a baseline level of physical attraction first okay so i would say that is there

03:22:35.520 more of a like either romantic or sexual chemistry or flirtation that can exist more so in one person

03:22:42.320 versus another yeah sure fair enough i i'm just speaking from my own experience even really really

03:22:48.400 physically unattractive people can still find relationships but that's not really what i'm

03:22:53.680 talking about here i'm not disputing that unattractive people can date no i'm not saying

03:22:59.360 that either i'm saying that like i've personally experienced a thing where we were not matched

03:23:07.920 aesthetically and there was just palpable chemistry and it's like that's not who we would have gone for

03:23:13.280 okay sure um i think i can test this out pretty easily here so if like looks don't matter let's

03:23:19.760 just remove entirely anything you know about these people let's just talk strictly looks so you can't

03:23:26.080 make any judgments outside of looks so let's say modern current day donald trump is he more attractive

03:23:36.560 than brad pitt at 25 physically attractive is he wearing a diaper or did he go depends list

03:23:45.520 it's donald trump who's currently in the white house yeah i'd prefer somebody who doesn't wear a

03:23:48.960 diaper versus 25 year old uh brad pitt yeah who's more physically attractive i thought physical

03:23:56.000 attraction out of it i thought that was the premise no no we're leaving i know you some of you are

03:24:00.400 liberals so we're leaving out that you disagree with his politics who's more physically attractive

03:24:06.560 so the two demarcators of beauty usually are physical health and age so by that standpoint brad

03:24:12.240 pitt is younger and more physically healthy so he would inherently objectively be more attractive

03:24:19.280 okay does anybody have a different opinion or

03:24:24.720 well i think that i think trump's uh trump's uh charisma is freaking off the charts we're just

03:24:35.840 talking looks so i think it makes him uh let me put it this way if you are in a poll of physical

03:24:44.880 attractiveness again like in a buzzfeed or something like that sure people will say that whoever the other

03:24:50.160 guy was was more attractive than donald trump but that doesn't always work out in real life execution

03:24:54.480 meaning that when you actually get to know people and are surrounded by their energy and actually their

03:24:58.960 natural hormones and chemistry they can say like just theoretically you you approach both guys and

03:25:04.560 your speed dating with them the guy that they said was more conveniently attractive they might not

03:25:08.960 actually have any spark or chemistry or real attraction within real life and that's where i

03:25:12.320 think the difference is yeah i agree yeah okay um but i don't think they're again it's not in dispute that

03:25:19.760 people who are average or below average or really unattractive i'm not disputing that they can't find

03:25:26.080 people who might find them physically attractive or who want to be with them that's not really in

03:25:31.840 dispute what i'm disputing here is you said you don't believe in leagues no you don't think that

03:25:38.800 there's leagues so what i guess then is stopping me from dating 19 and 20 year old supermodels what's

03:25:48.720 the barrier like it has nothing to do like what's the barrier okay yeah like if i were to shoot my shot

03:25:54.720 out with a 20 year old supermodel yeah let me yeah they're in my league right i can answer that for

03:26:00.240 you which is first let's just take age out of it because i don't want to go down the age numbers

03:26:03.920 thing um but let's just say it's a super 30 30 year old supermodel sure cool okay yeah so are there

03:26:09.280 30 year old supermodels out there who may have superficial beliefs about men and women and go for

03:26:14.560 the six pack six foot six whatever and that or they have people who are drawn to them that are in that

03:26:20.080 category who they like to explore with sure however if they actually met you in real life

03:26:24.800 and i would say at least they're not gonna like me maybe like it depends on what they're physically

03:26:30.560 attracted to however i'm not talking even physical i'm just saying i probably differ quite a bit in

03:26:35.120 terms of politics and whatnot you don't know that well that's okay fine they're super all these

03:26:39.440 victoria supermodels are super base conservatives that's what i'm saying where real attraction in

03:26:43.440 leagues comes in is way more about values morals and integrity and their character rather than

03:26:49.120 anything about their physical appearance because for example let's say you get on a blind date with

03:26:53.520 a supermodel okay and she's way super attracted to you physically throughout the course of that

03:26:59.680 conversation you guys may have different political beliefs different moral beliefs and then when you

03:27:04.560 expose that suddenly the attraction might die or hey i don't know your beliefs maybe you're like a

03:27:09.600 one night stand kind of guy i don't know but if there is physical attraction i'm not saying that you

03:27:13.680 are ryan i'm saying that in a scenario where if you're a one night stand type of person it might just

03:27:18.320 be a one time one night stand type of connection i've seen very ugly male comedians go out and go

03:27:25.440 to bars and i'm like you're not going to get any attention and women flock to them because they do

03:27:31.280 just have that natural sort of like energy about them that brings really hot women in okay so i love

03:27:36.800 ugly men look again i first off when it comes to comedians uh one of the number one things that women

03:27:42.800 say that they look for is humor and these comedians i'll know to what degree like how famous they are

03:27:48.720 or have status that's another component that probably plays in here uh perhaps they have good conversational

03:27:55.440 skills uh are most men as funny as professional comedians i would say not so we can point to

03:28:03.920 yeah okay there's maybe uh comedians who are not good looking but their status or they're just

03:28:11.120 interacting with them is this like fun experience and that makes them attractive to women sure i i

03:28:17.280 agree with that but i don't think that that's within the realm of most men that they're in terms of their

03:28:23.680 humor that it's on par with professional stand-up comedians which is true but i'm not even saying oh they

03:28:29.440 were out there cracking i'm talking like before they had fame or status or money back when they

03:28:34.160 were sleeping on air mattresses uh yeah broke guys can yeah broke guys can sleep with women i don't

03:28:40.960 yeah i don't dispute this they had good so you're basically saying good like men with good personalities

03:28:45.920 can sleep with women i'm not disputing this at all all right how many men have good personalities

03:28:50.400 i don't i haven't taken like how many what and what i'm saying what i'm getting at is to overcome other

03:28:56.160 detrimental attributes or characteristics what's the detrimental attribute or character well i

03:29:01.840 wouldn't necessarily view it this way but women might say like for example a woman might say

03:29:06.800 if a guy's short he has to make up for it in other ways see then i would think that you would be

03:29:13.600 dating women with no judgment just people's personal beliefs but who are dating on superficial

03:29:20.160 standards rather than actually wanting to get to know who you are as a person you don't think that

03:29:23.360 people are not dating superficially i believe that there is a group out there but to invite

03:29:30.320 a different perspective the type of people that i date and the type of people that i've seen like

03:29:34.800 and the type of people that i've experienced like i have a standard personally that we for the type of

03:29:40.560 people that i go out with and also the type of people in my friend groups that they go out with

03:29:44.320 are not dating superficially it's just a different form of like i mean yeah but people do a lot of

03:29:49.360 virtue signaling signaling and they'll they want to say the thing that sounds good but they won't

03:29:54.880 always actually reveal overtly genuine preferences so it's it sounds good as a woman to say yeah i'll date

03:30:03.200 a short guy but then like we've done well here i can maybe test this out you said you've been in a

03:30:08.480 couple relationships right yeah and how just curious how tall was your last boyfriend yeah all of my

03:30:14.160 boyfriends um except for one have been shorter than me i'll tell you i'm five eight every all of

03:30:21.520 your boyfriends have been shorter okay we got an outlier here all right and that's what i'm saying

03:30:25.760 is that it's not necessarily about what all women in general think it's about which group of women are

03:30:30.720 you dating and attracting into your life yeah but in general women have a general preference for for

03:30:36.480 example men who are tall sure you might end up dating a guy who's your height maybe even a bit

03:30:42.400 shorter as in your case but it is a general preference for the vast majority of women and

03:30:48.400 what they're going to find initially most physically attractive is men who are taller than them sure yes

03:30:52.960 but there's a difference between preference versus standard meaning that yes there are women out there

03:30:56.880 who are like i will not date anybody who is shorter than me yes i think there's a lot of women out there

03:31:01.760 who innately do have the preference because they like to feel small and protected and held by their

03:31:06.320 partner and again the type of group of women that i'm talking about or the ones that are basing their

03:31:11.200 values versus on something more than just a superficial are not going to be deterred by

03:31:15.440 somebody who is shorter or any other physical character wait hold on a guy could could be have

03:31:20.400 a sterling personality but just on the basis of his height alone is going to be disqualified by a

03:31:27.440 cohort of women by yes one group but probably the type of woman you would want to date and how many

03:31:32.400 men would want to be dating those well you said earlier you were like oh if a guy's short he has

03:31:37.120 to make up for it in some other way if height is the standard for the woman in question and he's

03:31:41.920 short then yeah he's gonna have to make up for it in another way but what okay then his personality

03:31:47.520 could be the thing that makes up for it or a sense of humor right but for some girls it's just going to

03:31:51.760 be uh unless he's exceptional either in his personality or some other metric i think it's

03:31:59.440 still going to be uh an issue for a lot of women i think that it's not even like an argument when a

03:32:09.280 man is taller and is more in shape it means naturally he can take better care of you and it's in our

03:32:14.880 natural instincts to find out more attractive there's no reason to argue about this and when a

03:32:19.120 female is skinnier can that that that's just what a man likes because it's just in their natural

03:32:24.560 instinct that means a healthier life it means a better like i don't know breeding better a lot

03:32:29.760 of different things and it's in our natural physical fitness sure but taller men die sooner

03:32:35.040 it doesn't matter that's a hundred short men live longer you can look it up i think looks really matter

03:32:40.320 and like if someone has two guys if you have two guys in front of you they have the exact same

03:32:44.640 personality and one is taller and better looking you will pick the taller and better

03:32:48.960 looking that's the reality people that look better they have they they're they're better

03:32:54.720 that's just what it is people that look better they're better i feel i feel like that's incredibly

03:32:58.960 disempowering to men um and i don't mean that you can have your personal opinion and like i'm not

03:33:03.040 going to shame you they're going to find women that are in this their league and women that are

03:33:06.880 like a little bit less they're going to find men that are less that's just how it is

03:33:11.280 just to state my personal opinion i think that it's disempowering to men to think that they're going to be

03:33:15.360 disadvantaged or that they lack any less value and that might be true for you and the type of people

03:33:19.760 that you date and again no shame against that those are your beliefs and that's totally okay

03:33:23.680 what i'm saying though is that i don't think a man should be limited by his height by any sort

03:33:27.680 of physical appearance i think that yes as in general generally speaking here every man and

03:33:34.400 every woman should work on their values to work on their integrity work on their skill sets the girl

03:33:38.640 that i was five years ago sucked at dating sucked at dating was a total pick me and totally anxious

03:33:44.640 girl but i worked on those skill sets so that i could increase like you know my approach in

03:33:49.120 relationships and actually be an energetic and emotional match for the type of partner that i

03:33:52.720 wanted so i don't think that it has to be again disempowering to men to think that okay just because

03:33:57.280 you're shorter just because you have any other physical attributes that you're going to have limits

03:34:01.600 yes there will be women out there that will not date you because of height because of these other

03:34:06.000 things but again those probably won't be the type of women that you want to know that's exactly what

03:34:10.080 he wants you just can't get it it's the reality it's okay it's okay it's a reality there's a certain

03:34:14.880 disadvantage is in life we're painting this with such a broad brush because there are women of course

03:34:19.680 that like there's a lot of women that like tall guys there's women that like shorter guys or average

03:34:23.920 height guys just like a lot of women like ladies with big honkers okay but there's guys who love

03:34:29.520 women with small boobs but the guys that look better that are taller that are better looking they're

03:34:33.600 fitter they have a way bigger choice of woman and the guys that are looking all over yeah exactly so

03:34:39.680 that's the conversation are better looking people have better chances of succeeding and better chances

03:34:45.680 of like just being better is that true yeah one way that i challenge that is just because you have

03:34:49.520 a variety of options does that mean that you actually are compatible with a lot of those people

03:34:53.200 and at the end of the day other than polyamorous relationships or people who get married

03:34:56.800 multiple times you only marry one person yeah but when you have to say something yeah oh go ahead

03:35:03.520 you know it's really funny because looks are great but it's all it's great to have a pretty face but

03:35:10.480 for me honest to god i can't get turned on yeah with the man that's not a protector provider truly

03:35:20.320 that is a man's man i think we have options of what we we are so like whatever we are we have

03:35:26.640 that option for us so if you want that you kind of have to be on you know like that's just the

03:35:31.200 reality of truth of life like it's unfair this is what it is let's accept reality and move on

03:35:36.400 uh so question for you you said that you think chris pine is a 10 sure uh you think you're a 10

03:35:42.800 would you feel like you were settling if you dated a guy who was not in terms of looks not as good

03:35:51.120 looking as chris pine if you take it from the best people like sure you can take that narrative but

03:35:57.200 again for me just like i believe that i'll be a 10 for my husband and a 10 for myself i also believe

03:36:01.760 my husband will be a 10 in my eyes as well i don't i don't think you necessarily need to do this

03:36:10.320 i i think you can state the following that you're really attracted to your partner and you think that

03:36:16.480 they're beautiful and you can maybe even be satisfied with how with how you look and not have

03:36:24.000 insecurities or lack self-confidence but you can also make a determination like okay i'm not on par

03:36:30.720 with the most beautiful people in the world and if i'm able to like make a hierarchy and rank order

03:36:36.240 these people based off of their physical attractiveness say you know the top best looking

03:36:41.680 people if they're a 10 and you you know give yourself a six or five i don't think that

03:36:48.880 being able to come to realistic and somewhat accurate determinations as to where you fall

03:36:55.040 on the beauty hierarchy is indicative of your lack of self-confidence or your lack of attraction for your

03:37:02.880 partner in this case if say a person is genuinely a five and they're dating somebody who's a five

03:37:11.280 i don't think that you need to think your partner is in terms of looks a 10

03:37:18.640 so this idea of your partner will find you to be a 10 like for example if you were dating a guy and he

03:37:23.360 was like say he was a bit more um uh blunt and you asked him you're like what do you rate me

03:37:33.920 and he said oh i'd give you like a six would you so i think it's a little more multi-dimensional

03:37:40.880 that i think that if i was having a conversation with my husband let's say i think that when he

03:37:45.200 looked at me and he perceived me he would say emily you're a beautiful woman and you're attending my

03:37:50.000 eyes and then if we took into the context of okay but let's take it from a societal standpoint or take

03:37:55.280 it from a universal standpoint of what if you did the buzzfeed poll what you would be rated those might

03:38:00.400 not be congruent but that doesn't mean that my husband doesn't see me as the most beautiful woman

03:38:04.240 in the world or i don't see him as the most attractive would i believe of course because

03:38:08.400 that's those are my values here's me here's me if i'm dating a girl i i would almost be upset or

03:38:16.640 offended if she was like i think you're better looking than brad pitt when he was 25 i'd be like

03:38:23.920 shut the fuck up you're lying but maybe she's not because she's also to if you're dating her

03:38:29.840 but then she's also taking i know she likes she can't separate all that because now you've got

03:38:34.960 sentiment and experiences and the way you make her feel like she's not going to be able to separate

03:38:39.680 that likes me because of all those things but if we're just having a conversation about looks of

03:38:44.000 course i think if you're in love or in a relationship with somebody i don't think that that pulls like

03:38:49.200 wool over your eyes to the point where you can't just assess that like hmm okay there is possibly

03:38:56.000 somebody who could be better looking than my partner yeah like come on you can't make so once

03:39:02.160 you're in love you can't make a determination that like okay it's probably the case that uh i don't

03:39:08.240 know who's like megan fox is better looking than than you know yeah but the girlfriend or whatever i

03:39:15.040 think i know i think yeah i think we're not going to find alignment on this because again i don't think

03:39:20.000 that it's you necessarily going oh does brad pitt have better abs than me then yeah she might say

03:39:27.840 yes but like in terms of it could be facial attractiveness too i think my husband's the most

03:39:32.640 attractive man exactly i do have photos no i really do yeah sure but i mean you say that i do say but

03:39:42.640 are you saying physically looks wise he's the most attractive guy but now i can't separate how i feel

03:39:47.920 about him but is this one of those things that you say because it can come to the detriment of

03:39:53.920 your relationship no i didn't have to say anything the truth no i know but like for example if my if

03:39:59.120 a girl this this old trope of uh hey do i look fat in this dress like it's probably not the right

03:40:05.120 move to say that she looks fat if she actually looks fat yeah like that's probably not the right

03:40:09.200 move from an interpersonal dynamic thing no i get what you're saying but i didn't have to say anything

03:40:16.080 he's not here or watching this no i know so in my case i'm just being honest i know but there there

03:40:21.600 is a component of when you have a spouse or you have a relationship you're going to say things to

03:40:28.640 side with your spouse that might not actually to get that and i agree with that i don't entirely agree

03:40:37.280 with that um for me and my partner i always expect from him and from my like for him for me too like

03:40:43.440 to be honest and to have standards like you know for example like i'm not afraid to tell the guy

03:40:47.520 that i'm dating hey it seems like you've been letting yourself go recently but not from a place

03:40:51.840 of okay i am only just because i'm less attracted to because i actually care about their health and

03:40:57.120 that they're taking care of their body so and i don't want my husband to lie to me either like the

03:41:01.600 guys that i've dated previously when i go um when i'm wearing something like a different outfit and i ask

03:41:06.560 them what their opinion is on it they always give me the truth so i don't look like a fool because

03:41:10.720 they love me and respect me way too much to allow me to go out into the world and something that is

03:41:14.960 not going to be appealing they they might disagree i might disagree with their opinion where sometimes

03:41:19.200 i'm like well actually babe i feel hot so but that doesn't mean i don't value their opinion though

03:41:27.600 let's face it if a guy wants to date he's going to tell you that you're beautiful he's going to blow

03:41:32.320 smoke up your ass to get laid okay and you know if they they're not going to come up to you and go oh god

03:41:40.720 you need help you need to lose weight you need a facelift you need a tummy tuck they're not going

03:41:45.360 to do that i get freaking strangers coming up going you're beautiful and i'm looking around going

03:41:51.680 i bitching he thinks i'm beautiful i love you too baby where have you been my whole life

03:41:56.640 you know i mean seriously i think it's better to just be like honest with ourselves and with our

03:42:02.480 partners that okay i'm a five you're five you're great i love you but you're a five it's fine it's like

03:42:07.680 it doesn't you don't have to be like you're a 10 in my eyes because he's not a 10 in your eyes

03:42:11.520 because when you see someone better looking you know that person is better looking we know that

03:42:15.840 it's beauty so in the eye of the beholder because i don't think you're a five i think you're a nine

03:42:19.840 like you're objectively really hot she wants to break her off she's already said she's not into

03:42:26.240 girls and that's fine but i am saying you are objectively an attractive woman and like maybe you

03:42:31.920 see yourself as a five but i see you as a nine and i'm sure i want to put you as a ten just one

03:42:36.400 point of clarification so beauty is in the eye eye of the beholder but she's objectively a beautiful

03:42:41.920 woman yeah all right if you put me next to someone that is like doesn't really go to a gym or doesn't

03:42:52.400 have you know certain things that i do and then you're gonna know that person is not it's a little

03:42:57.360 bit not as good looking as me and it's fine that's like i think that's what the whole conversation is

03:43:01.840 there's people that are look wise elite i believe that there's people there's elites in everything

03:43:07.600 there's people that are better than other people and i i do i do believe that i honestly this is you

03:43:13.120 guys gonna hate me but i do believe that men in general are better than women and i'm i i agree with

03:43:18.400 that and i will always agree with that that are better and i want them in my life and i wish i had

03:43:22.640 like a father figure that was better than me that was better than my mom that took care of me

03:43:26.640 that i wouldn't be here and if i had a man that's like i want my man to be better than me and that's

03:43:31.040 why we're where we are in society because we we don't want to agree with that and then now we are

03:43:35.840 we have women in power and we're here arguing about if there's better looking people or not like

03:43:40.720 well in fairness that topic was brought up by a man but so look beauty it's not objective in the strictest

03:43:48.480 philosophical sense but there are measurable things when it does come to beauty that are partly

03:43:55.280 predictable partly measurable um and i think like for example universal there are certain universals

03:44:03.680 that i think you would find if we were to show a really really really a picture of a really really

03:44:12.160 really ugly person and a really really really beautiful person i think there would be a almost

03:44:19.200 universally now there might be a couple people who are like i think the really ugly person is more

03:44:23.280 beautiful whether they're being honest or not hard to say uh but i think if for example 99.99 of the

03:44:31.360 population agreed that the one who is really beautiful is more beautiful that does point to

03:44:39.600 some degree of there are some components of beauty that are objective i think that's still not the case

03:44:46.880 because like okay obesity for example here in the us that's a hard no we don't like that that's we

03:44:52.960 don't see that as a beautiful thing no in samua in maori culture and in south africa the bigger the

03:45:00.400 better they love women who are ob if a woman's my size they're like you're way too thin are you trying

03:45:05.680 to say that black guys like fat women is that what you're saying nope some ones are polynesian that's

03:45:12.160 a very racist statement there samuan uh samuan and maoris are polynesian south africa are you talking

03:45:18.480 about the africaners are you talking about the i guess the uh the black people in south africa i'm

03:45:24.400 talking about everybody in south africa there is genuinely or generally what about people skew so

03:45:29.360 among the white population in south africa they prefer plump women yes the body type is bigger in

03:45:35.360 south africa the standard of beauty is bigger in south africa yes i think it's because they're

03:45:39.200 poor among amongst both i think there is countries that like bigger people but that's because they're so

03:45:44.080 poor and then in japan and in korea and in taiwan it's like you have to be real thin i mean you can

03:45:50.160 also just look at the history from the past couple of decades like you know about what the beauty

03:45:54.640 standards at the time yeah okay what in the 90s we thought that like cocaine skinny was like

03:45:59.920 these like you had to be rail thin to be hot and the women who like had a little bit of pudge was

03:46:05.840 culture like you if you were plump and you were very curvy that means you were wealthy yeah

03:46:10.080 yeah yeah but that points that doesn't necessarily point to what people find physically attractive

03:46:18.160 i think it would point more so towards like are you saying like among the peasantry if there's a

03:46:25.760 really fat person they're like oh shit i can marry into a wealthy family so i'm not starving let's not

03:46:33.760 even go into that like i don't think that has to necessarily has to do with innate physical

03:46:38.160 attraction if you go back to just the early 2000s they're on the cover of every magazine was britney

03:46:44.240 spears at one point when she got a little bit of weight on her and jessica simpson when she was

03:46:49.200 skinnier than me and people were like how disgusting they literally called her a pig wasn't rail thin

03:46:55.280 she wasn't like when she was like 17 and 18 when she was like starting out in her prime was not

03:47:00.640 hold on she wasn't like supermodel rail thin pull up a picture of her with the snake she wasn't

03:47:05.680 anorexic hold on she was definitely she had a healthy body that was a healthy she was super fit

03:47:10.720 in tone no okay well fit in tones but you were talking about like the heroin chic like near like

03:47:17.760 eating disorder model if you go back to the 90s yeah in the 90s uh sir mix a lot baby got back this

03:47:24.560 idea that that was a revolutionary song because he was like did that come out in the late 80s or early

03:47:30.160 90s it was i think 94 this idea that oh it's only like in the mid 20s like the you know with the kim

03:47:35.520 kardashians that are more curvy hold on that no that was the thing women didn't want to have no

03:47:41.920 women didn't want to have a big butt it was always that's the whole thing sir mix a lot sir mix a lot

03:47:46.240 was a was a revolutionary in that that's what i'm saying it has the line in the song cosmos says you're

03:47:52.240 fat do we have well i ain't down with that do we have any hold on do we do we have any boomers in the

03:47:57.120 chat did you like a big badonkadon back in the fucking beach boy days you know you're listening

03:48:04.320 i don't know fucking you're at the the leonard skyndard concert in the fucking 70s you come on

03:48:12.560 i don't want to wear this it makes my butt look fat that was like a whole thing back in the 90s and

03:48:16.960 the 80s like oh i don't want my butt to look fat in that 70s show there's a whole like scene where

03:48:22.320 mila kunis is like those pants make her butt look fat and it's like ew look at her hold on

03:48:27.040 scientology was involved with the 70s i don't look i'm not gonna uh you know that was some crazy

03:48:31.920 shit you know whatever um i can say that i remember watching bring it on and one of the girls oh yeah

03:48:38.560 she was saying that like her butt was so big i don't remember watching that like you're complaining

03:48:43.200 about having a fatty like but i guess like back then during that time it wasn't acceptable to have

03:48:50.080 a big olivia newton john boned skinny in greece with john travolta that was it wearing yeah but

03:48:58.400 i mean the wearing dittos and it was just skinny as skinny could we have some chats we got to read

03:49:04.560 we have uh oh this is the i guess this is from far lucy does brian meet any of your standards

03:49:10.000 for a boyfriend be specific rate him is it okay for a 50 year old man i'm not 50 what the

03:49:15.520 fuck today's 18 year old girl and vice versa lucy rate the other girls looks and intelligence one to

03:49:21.440 ten be honest oh my goodness i have to rate you and i have to rate everybody okay yeah and do i

03:49:26.800 meet your standards for a boyfriend okay well brian um i would say politically i don't know you that

03:49:35.200 well we seem to be not super aligned um and i would say looks wise i would i mean you're a conventionally

03:49:42.000 handsome guy so that is fine and i enjoy the shirt you're wearing it doesn't apply to me by the way

03:49:48.960 but i i enjoy that representation um and i'm not sure how successful you are but it seems like you

03:49:55.680 do well college i mean no it seems like you do very well so i would say aside from politics um and

03:50:01.760 you also seem to be fairly agreeable and kind so i like that wait until oh yeah no go ahead okay

03:50:09.280 well because you haven't you haven't been super rude so i mean yeah personality wise looks wise

03:50:14.000 you're great just politics i think we don't align and then rating your intelligence um i i don't want

03:50:19.520 to get into that because i don't agree with your politics but that's okay and then going down the

03:50:24.160 line with all the girls i think all the girls are very beautiful muscle mommy definitely like a 9.9

03:50:28.960 i wish i had her physique you can just with a little bit of anivore yeah and the gym yes and then i have to

03:50:35.520 be super honest i would say i mean you're like a very conventionally beautiful girl next door so i

03:50:39.680 would say like a 9.2 just because your muscles are less big i guess and then you wait really

03:50:46.800 well slightly compared to her i don't have she got steroids i don't have any muscles it's fine

03:50:53.440 my muscles is actually going to wait hold on and eating healthy can you uh hold on don't turn it back

03:50:58.800 i can i think you're maybe pull that yeah there you go did my tip fall out it was all pretty close

03:51:05.920 no i don't think it is all right just if you can finish up quick quick you don't want to hear my

03:51:11.040 assessments okay and then with the comedian i love comedians i also think you're very gorgeous i would

03:51:15.520 give you like 9.9999 just because i mean i have to be super realistic i guess um and then for you

03:51:21.680 you're so lovely i would definitely give you like a 9.8 i think you're gorgeous i love your personality

03:51:26.240 you're super sweet um and you too you're super kind super pretty no one here is ugly um so yeah

03:51:31.600 i would also give you like a 9.7 just because i don't know you well enough but you're very natural

03:51:36.080 very beautiful um and you i respect everything about you even though we don't align on trump or

03:51:41.360 politics but um yeah you have a great spirit so i'm just going to give you an 8.9 just because of

03:51:46.960 politics um and then yeah you're super pretty as well i would also i would give you like a 9.7

03:51:53.280 um yeah and then yeah i guess i didn't rate um brian our lovely host i would say politics aside

03:52:00.400 i would give him like a 9.5 i suppose did she just lie to all of us all right pasty george i think

03:52:07.840 chair one is onto something because then why do the top 10 percent of men get literally thousands

03:52:12.480 upon thousands of women willing to jump their pps with the drop of a hat exactly and everyone that

03:52:18.160 says they don't care about looks or well i was gonna ask if i could comment on that i mean if you

03:52:23.040 talk about millions of women like i don't know what the exact population of women in the world is but

03:52:27.840 if you have millions of women if 10 of them are superficial and we'll um and i say that with like

03:52:33.840 with a lot of love and a grain of salt but like if like only even if only 10 of them are that type of

03:52:39.440 women then that's still hundreds of thousands of women that are would agree with that and would jump

03:52:43.920 this person's bones but again it's way less like yes physically attractive people attract more types

03:52:49.840 of people and yes they're going to be more likely the physically drawn women are going to date and

03:52:55.520 possibly sleep with them but the women who value things beyond that above physical attraction and

03:53:01.760 emotional intelligence and integrity and values are going to be a little bit more selective than that

03:53:06.080 and they're not going to jump this guy's pants just for that i think the women that care about those

03:53:10.800 things are not superficial they have better survival instincts and i think that's what it is like the

03:53:15.600 people and the women that don't have that you you guys would not survive natural selection also i don't

03:53:21.040 think it's necessarily like is it wrong for a woman to like say a woman is really well adjusted

03:53:32.320 is it wrong for her to select on the basis of physical attractiveness i would say no it's literally in

03:53:38.080 our nature to want that it's okay it's they i think the society makes us think certain things

03:53:43.040 that we we want is not okay because that's how they divide us and that's how they make us smaller

03:53:48.000 and smaller by division but when it comes to it there's certain things that is the truth but if we

03:53:53.200 keep saying it's not a truth we're lying to each other and it divides us that's that's why we're

03:53:57.200 becoming so weak and divided and everything's going to shit it's because we don't want to agree with

03:54:01.520 those things i just think people should be realistic it's like hey i'm average looking it's hard to be

03:54:06.480 real these days it's the hardest thing to be real these days because i think there is there is a

03:54:11.760 reason why everyone's being so fake and they don't want to accept reality is because it goes back to

03:54:16.880 i don't know i i have some thoughts on this that is too deep but i think division is a way of like

03:54:23.600 the people that are on top to like have us stay small and divide us and think that we want us to

03:54:29.440 delusional but i think there is things that are just the real answer to things why does it bother you

03:54:35.280 if somebody's sorry i think she's oh no go ahead you know i was going to say i actually agree with

03:54:39.680 you on several points um with some minor tweaks like i do think division comes from the top but

03:54:45.360 also when you say um it's in our nature as women to want to go for good looking guys i would say

03:54:51.040 it's it's feminine to go for beauty in the sense that men for the most part are ingrained from day one

03:54:58.720 to prioritize beauty and women and to be slightly more superficial so to say and when it comes to

03:55:04.880 physical attractiveness but i do think to your point about it being in our best survival interest

03:55:10.560 to go for you know like a stronger man a more of more of a provider man like i think that is true

03:55:16.720 and also on the point about how the top 20 of men get the 80 of women or whatever that statistic was

03:55:24.320 a lot of that i think has to do with women being more hypergamous by nature because as women as you said

03:55:30.000 like we typically want to be taken care of we want to feel safe and provided for so it makes sense for

03:55:35.360 a woman to want to go for a man who is better than her and especially now with women doing better

03:55:41.040 in the workforce and being more financially stable and independent it might be a little bit more

03:55:45.680 difficult to find a man who is better than her so that could also be why it seems like there is more

03:55:50.880 stiff competition amongst women competing for the top percentage of men i think that's part of the

03:55:56.880 division to the fact that women are doing better than men that's like also not naturally it's

03:56:03.200 not supposed to be that way and when we say we're better than men like you think us financially being

03:56:08.640 better than men is better than men actually because all our financial is because of men so we're not

03:56:14.480 really better than them we just have a bunch of men taking care of us and then we judge the men that

03:56:18.800 have no woman taking care of them but financial nothing about finances is natural that's not something

03:56:24.240 you'd find in the wild bears don't have currency we could have meant like i think it was better

03:56:28.960 before and it was more fair like years ago so just generally speaking like just on a psychology

03:56:34.320 standpoint like if you 90 of your beliefs are subconscious and if we and our reticular activating

03:56:41.040 system is meant to find evidence for the thing that confirms our own beliefs so different people

03:56:46.560 have different truths and different realities i'm not here to change your opinion or anybody

03:56:49.920 else's opinion on what works for them because that's your personal empowerment and your personal

03:56:53.600 choice however i am living breathing evidence as well as a lot of the women that i interact with

03:56:58.240 that there are other values that you can live by and that there are other beliefs that you can

03:57:01.760 live by and have different experiences that don't subscribe to some of the things that we're talking

03:57:05.920 about here um so what i always ask as a coach is really just like do you like the results that

03:57:10.800 you're getting from that mindset and that belief and do you feel empowered by it i didn't have this

03:57:14.320 mindset before and that's why i don't have the results that i wanted i used to be a feminist i used to

03:57:18.720 believe in the things that you guys believe and that's why i'm where i am and there's like then

03:57:23.360 i realized when i actually matured and i'm no longer a 21 year old there's like this is so

03:57:27.760 fucking cool that i'm just like naked and i'm making millions of dollars then you start actually

03:57:32.960 connecting with your natural and then you're like oh that's why there's the people that are more

03:57:37.680 successful the people that are better the people that do better in society they think that way you

03:57:42.480 know whoever thinks this way is usually better they're more in shape they have more money and

03:57:47.360 there is a reason because when you think more connected to your nature and your natural

03:57:51.760 instincts you usually do better because that's how you win and the people that don't think like

03:57:55.840 that they're usually they they don't have you had a question i don't remember it i think you were

03:58:03.760 gonna ask why it matters yeah why you you seem to be particularly bothered by average people

03:58:10.320 over inflating their looks oh i mean i don't uh it's i wouldn't say bothered i

03:58:17.200 would say it's amusing to me but you said i just want average people to say that they're average

03:58:22.560 why i think well this is a different value system first and foremost yeah you do well i'd say first

03:58:29.280 off truth is important so i mean this sort of thinking is the same stuff that is you know not

03:58:36.400 to basically get into slippery slope stuff but uh this sort of mindset and thinking is what has

03:58:42.880 basically brought us to okay um yeah we should be allowed to give children puberty puberty blockers

03:58:49.120 uh we should allow uh biological males to compete in sports with women because it feels right no but

03:58:58.000 you could make the argument that there's a medical you could make the argument that like puberty

03:59:02.240 blockers to children have medical ramifications and women or you know people who were born male who've

03:59:09.280 transitioned competing in women's sports like you can make an argument that that hurts the other women

03:59:13.680 an average person saying that they're more than average looking hurts no one it does nothing to

03:59:19.360 anybody well i'd like to provide a bit of pushback for you and answer your original question for why it

03:59:25.600 matters so if you thought that you were more attractive than you otherwise were this is going to manifest

03:59:33.360 itself in who you choose to date or who you choose to not date so for example if if you think you and

03:59:41.920 it could be the case that you here's here's why i want to be a bit charitable somebody could do this as

03:59:48.320 a sort of confidence play to you know big up them but they might actually be somewhat realistic when it

03:59:56.800 comes to the people that they're going to be uh pursuing romantically but if somebody is delusion

04:00:05.120 genuinely delusional and you would agree with me that some people are genuinely delusional yeah yeah

04:00:11.280 and they're chasing after a certain caliber or league of person she rejects that there's leagues

04:00:18.720 i find this a bit dubious but uh then they're going to be constantly constantly disappointed and this

04:00:25.840 plays this is gendered though it plays out very differently uh if i'm constantly shooting my shot

04:00:31.360 with women who are outside my league i'm instantly rejected for example if i if i were to step to a

04:00:38.800 woman shoot my shot i'm not getting a conversation i'm not getting a date maybe i could get used for a

04:00:45.120 foodie call maybe but in any case i'm not getting anything further i'm not getting any short-term sexual

04:00:50.400 access i'm not going to be i'm not going to be typically strung along for the purposes of her

04:00:55.840 using me for sex for a couple weeks a couple months conversely women who simply by being sexually

04:01:06.320 available to men can have sexual relationships with men who are outside of their league but those men

04:01:14.240 will never give those women anything else they won't give them commitment so what ends up happening

04:01:21.040 as a woman you can test this out if you make yourself sexually available to men

04:01:28.080 you're gonna encounter men who that's how women get into situationships and friend uh

04:01:33.600 fuck boys and dealing with that and oh he won't commit to me who's more likely to be complaining about

04:01:39.600 the opposite sex being unwilling to give them commitment men or women do you think it's men out

04:01:46.560 there who are like wow there's this chick that's a slut but i really want her for like long-term

04:01:52.080 commitment and she won't give me commitment but i can sleep with her is it more often the case that

04:01:58.320 women are dealing with men that won't give them commitment or the reverse i got commitment from

04:02:03.040 somebody who was way out of my league way out of my league hold on i get was he yeah he was

04:02:08.640 substantially out of my league in every department and okay congratulations yeah congratulations so

04:02:14.960 it's not impossible to find somebody who's out of your league and i'll say as a man if you want to

04:02:20.000 date women out of your league become more charismatic become more interesting yeah but you said okay

04:02:25.760 hold on body count but why don't you have one body count i said i had one boyfriend that's great i can

04:02:30.240 also point to women who i think are dating like for example jeff bezos who's dating lauren sanchez or

04:02:35.600 whatever i think he could probably attract women who are way more attractive and like a very a bunch

04:02:41.040 of metrics so i'm not saying that it's impossible i'm just talking about a general statement here

04:02:46.720 so why don't you answer my question okay men generally speaking who complains more about

04:02:52.160 not being able to procure commitment from the type of people that they want men or women women because

04:02:58.800 men men typically prefer until they're ready to like start a family they're they seek meaningless

04:03:06.240 sex they seek these casual relationships women tend to look for more commitment before engaging

04:03:10.880 in a sexual relationship so i have a disagreement with this and i don't think it's necessarily a

04:03:17.440 gender issue i think it's more of an attachment style issue as somebody who's an attachment coach

04:03:21.920 people who are typically anxiously attached are going to go after people who are emotionally

04:03:26.000 unavailable and not willing to give them commitment so i i actually coach many many many many men who

04:03:31.920 are dating avoidant women who are obsessed and i mean that very respectfully because they're in a lot

04:03:37.920 of pain um but that are actively seeking out avoidant women wanting commitment wanting commitment

04:03:43.760 wondering why this person won't commit to them um and so i have direct experience on the opposite

04:03:48.880 perspective so again it's way more of an attachment thing than a gender thing

04:03:51.760 wait so you're saying the the men they're sleeping with these women and the women don't want to

04:03:59.440 commit yeah i don't dispute that this is something that occurs however i believe that the reverse is far

04:04:08.880 more common well men are typically more avoidant than women no you even said you weren't really hot to

04:04:18.240 get married you got to speak into the mic you even said yourself you weren't hot to get married you

04:04:26.000 said why because you know you'd have to give up i'm happy look i'm happy to address my position on

04:04:32.640 marriage that's a separate conversation so back to this i genuinely think it's the case in terms of why

04:04:40.160 it's important again as a woman you can get sexual access to men who won't give you commitment

04:04:46.480 the reverse is just again it can happen but it's really really there's a massive differential

04:04:55.440 i mean i think again like that's just like your perspective and hey it might be true if you took

04:04:59.760 out data like you know from a big collective it might happen more often for men or women or whatever

04:05:04.240 it is i'm just saying in my experience what i've seen is that if somebody is it's again way more of

04:05:10.240 an emotional maturity and attachment style thing rather than women or men or whatever it is because

04:05:15.680 there are plenty of people out there both men and women who are seeking connection from somebody

04:05:20.800 who's just fundamentally emotionally unavailable and that they're seeking that and that they're

04:05:24.320 getting into these situations i think men honestly are probably just less vocal about it wait so just to

04:05:29.280 be clear you're saying men who won't give commitment this is always an indicator of them having an avoidant

04:05:35.600 personality style this is no no that's completely ridiculous men will happily have sex with women who they

04:05:42.160 will never commit to so and they don't have any uh avoidant dating style on the sole basis that that

04:05:50.960 woman is just simply not physically attractive enough to give a relationship to but they'll they'll keep

04:05:57.280 her around for the easy access to sex women don't really operate that if she's perfect if she's ready

04:06:03.680 for you if she wants to date you if you're having sex and it's good enough that you keep coming back for

04:06:08.080 it and the only reason he won't date her is because she's not physically attractive enough

04:06:12.880 yes the woman could meet can meet a whole bunch of his other metrics but she's just yeah she could be

04:06:20.240 she could be pleasant to be around all this stuff but she's just not physically attractive enough i don't

04:06:26.640 know any man that thinks like that that's crazy it's your perfect woman she's just not hot enough

04:06:32.080 here dealt with a fuck boy or been strung along in a situation ship yeah but the fuck boy doesn't

04:06:37.360 think you're his perfect woman other than your looks the fuck boy goes oh easy pussy cool that's

04:06:43.920 what it is it's not like oh my god she's perfect she makes me laugh she's like my best friend we get

04:06:48.640 along so well we're perfectly aligned in morals and in our views in life it's just that she's not hot

04:06:54.320 enough for me no it's not common no they're just not getting that attached i feel like some people

04:07:00.960 don't want to be in relationships your whole argument would be then that okay this person

04:07:05.520 could be perfect for you but if the physical component isn't there they should still date

04:07:10.400 that person anyway if they love them yeah if it's your perfect person and it's just you don't find

04:07:15.760 them as attractive then that sounds like they're checking a lot of boxes hits all the boxes but you're

04:07:20.880 just not physically attracted to them it's you're physically attracted in some way you're having

04:07:26.000 sex with them i think you underestimate the degree to which men will engage in a casual sexual maybe i

04:07:32.080 just don't deal with men that are that you've have you ever had a one night stand yeah once once okay

04:07:39.600 have you ever been in a situation ship no no okay so perhaps you're a bit more uh discerning when it

04:07:46.480 comes to who you're going to date women give sex am i just for love sorry am i just making this up

04:07:53.360 women have never struggled to get commitment from a guy am i am i speaking like is that a

04:07:59.360 weird concept it's not a weird concept struggle to get commitment but i am saying guys that they're

04:08:04.000 attracted to it's not the situation that like she's perfect and she checks all of my boxes but i think

04:08:10.320 i could get somebody a little bit hotter like i don't think that that's the the thing that they're

04:08:14.800 running into i feel like people like having options very very possible and very probable

04:08:21.440 that there is sorry did i interrupt you no you can go okay i think it's very possible and probable

04:08:26.720 that is there a collective of men out there who are just weighing their options and waiting for the

04:08:31.200 better thing or yeah that's what i was saying sure there is a population of them out there sure not

04:08:36.160 going to lie there is a population of women that do accept that treatment from them and do accept that

04:08:40.960 level of standards from them um but first and foremost again to make what you said earlier just

04:08:45.840 because somebody's not physically attracted or wants to commit to somebody does not automatically

04:08:50.240 make them avoid it let me make that clear um however emotional unavailability on a general

04:08:55.520 spectrum is that hey i am not willing to commit to you because of xyz reasons whether it's because of

04:09:02.400 your attractiveness your morals your values etc etc etc so again are there are there populations out

04:09:08.160 there that go underneath these beliefs yes but i'm talking about the people who are actually like

04:09:13.440 in my opinion and my values ready for commitment are looking for something deeper than that

04:09:17.840 can i ask you what you personally think if you're going to use the rating system

04:09:23.280 what is the number that you think you could max get you personally like what number of woman

04:09:29.840 uh varies no but like your your maximum that you if it's just looks the maximum that you could get

04:09:40.640 again but i already stated that when it comes to attraction there's other components besides just

04:09:46.160 looks i know that and so there's other things that can make you attractive status money personality

04:09:51.520 but just looks etc i feel like at least for me i don't know if it's entirely fair to

04:10:00.400 it wouldn't be entirely fair for me to answer this question but if you were to ask an average guy

04:10:05.120 this no no i'm not asking an average guy i'm asking because i'm getting to another point but

04:10:09.360 let me ask you directly like right now and you can factor in your status and popularity i think

04:10:14.320 looks wise i can uh i think i could get up to a seven okay but i think i'm bringing a lot of

04:10:20.240 other things to the table that's fine besides just looks right so and i agree with that but on looks

04:10:26.000 scale yeah but like five but but you you think that you could right now just with everything that

04:10:31.520 you've got going on in your life you could attain a seven and that's the ceiling for you you think that

04:10:36.720 yeah probably okay with everything so all your success you can get a 10.

04:10:40.400 that's i don't think you can get a 10 with success fine i'm not debating what you can have

04:10:44.720 what you can't have i'm saying hold on it's not i'm being realistic it's not a lack and that's that's

04:10:49.680 fine so you think you could get a seven and that's the ceiling totally fine if you got a six right now

04:10:55.840 who checked all of your boxes she was everything that you've ever wanted in a woman but she was a

04:11:00.160 six and you could get a seven are you committing

04:11:03.440 uh am i committing let's think about this and she's everything i want she's everything you want

04:11:11.360 but she is a six well just to be and you can get a seven yeah sure she'll be she can be my girlfriend

04:11:16.080 okay yeah hey but brian but is this like is that an own like i don't understand i wasn't trying to own

04:11:21.200 you i'm trying to understand your point of view on this because you're saying that there's guys who will

04:11:26.160 have everything perfect woman but will reject her and not commit to her because he thinks that he can

04:11:33.040 get a little bit better in the looks department well hold on no no that's not exactly what i'm saying

04:11:38.400 if there's a guy who say say he's an eight or whatever sure he might entertain in terms just for

04:11:47.280 a short-term casual thing a woman who's a six or a five and you're adding on a qualifier of oh well

04:11:54.640 she also meets like all his other prerequisites that was my point but hold on but men will also sleep

04:12:00.400 with women who are less attractive who also don't really meet their other like personality sure uh

04:12:08.880 standards too yeah and they won't because it's just for sex it's right it's just for sex and that's

04:12:14.080 yeah men will have sex with a mcchicken if left to their own devices we've seen that but i'm saying

04:12:20.480 like you're saying oh well women aren't getting commitment just because she's not attractive

04:12:25.040 enough and i'm saying well no she might not be attractive enough what about the women that do

04:12:30.640 have commitment but the men like i get all the time are married men so how great is a commitment

04:12:39.600 when they're still on the chase it's great but also there are plenty of women because we all have

04:12:46.160 needs right and so maybe we meet a man and i mean this maybe has never happened to our host but we

04:12:50.720 meet a man who checks some of our boxes but not all of them so we can entertain them for something

04:12:55.120 short-term or temporary or realize this is not our forever person but they're fine for now which is how

04:13:00.000 you get into short-term flings and maybe the man wants commitment or not but you still know in your

04:13:05.040 heart that this man is not the one for you but he will do or suffice for now i would i would somewhat

04:13:11.920 agree that there that women have a more likely possibility of looking at a man's potential

04:13:17.120 rather than seeing the reality and from i would say that's true yeah definitely i mean i i would

04:13:22.240 perhaps even we can look at cases of celebrity like i think it's far more likely the case that if you look

04:13:29.760 at somebody i don't know like these famous musicians they're going to deal with a girl that

04:13:35.840 that's short term they're not going to give her why you you dated a rapper or something no uh i can't

04:13:42.320 just smile and look at you oh i sure okay kind of husband okay pump the not like that i know i know i'm

04:13:49.040 just messing um but look i guess what i'm trying to get at is because of this differential in terms of

04:13:56.080 procuring sex if a woman is dealing with certain caliber of guy she's then gonna look at the guys

04:14:03.280 who are actually in her who are actually her looks equivalent who are actually in her league she's

04:14:09.360 gonna think she's settling for those guys and she's gonna keep chasing these guys who are out of her

04:14:14.160 league we all look when it comes to dating we all want to get the best that we can get the difference

04:14:19.440 is as men we typically get rejected on the front end whereas you women you'll get rejected on the

04:14:25.520 back end so you might dispute this but i do think it's the case that as women you have more sexual

04:14:32.480 access to men than the reverse so again if i step to a girl and she's out of my league boom instant

04:14:39.200 rejection i'm not she's not going to be like well he's pleasant he's making himself sexually available

04:14:46.080 i guess i'll fuck him like a couple times men will definitely think that like men will definitely have

04:14:52.560 sex with you and not want anything to do with you here here's another way i could paint this

04:14:59.280 if i can sleep with a girl i have a very high confidence level that i can get her into a

04:15:05.360 relationship i'm very confident if i can sleep with her i can get her into a relationship i don't know

04:15:11.600 know if you can say the same thing about women like do you think like as a woman if you sleep

04:15:18.560 with a dude are you really confident like how confident are you that you can for sure get him

04:15:25.120 into a relationship there's a lot of dudes that are willing to hang out with me and they they are

04:15:29.040 very very high level and they're not willing to date me they're gonna go date someone that is

04:15:33.680 not me and it's fine but i can get them and it's very it feels very good like there's been people

04:15:37.840 that i've been watching since i was like 10 years old and i'm hanging out with them but it doesn't

04:15:41.600 mean they're gonna take me serious it's fine it's part of their nature but if i'm hanging out with

04:15:45.600 them and they say they're down to date me fuck yeah i would date them what the fuck do you mean

04:15:49.280 they're they're great but then that's but that's the only the only people that i hang out with i'm

04:15:53.200 willing to date them because they're good enough that's why i'm sleeping with them in the first place

04:15:56.880 i want them to like take care of me and be my man that's why i'm doing it but then for them

04:16:00.960 they're like no it's just another fucking girl in a banger it's a risk it's fine you roll the dice

04:16:07.920 that goes back to men's nature because that's in their nature it's in their blood because they want

04:16:12.400 to impregnate impregnate as what do you what do you think about which question i don't know what

04:16:17.040 we're talking about now so i i just said that if i can me as a man if i can sleep with a girl yeah

04:16:24.880 i have a high degree of confidence i can then get her into a long-term relationship

04:16:28.720 i think at least as it applies to women yeah i think women are going to be far less confident

04:16:35.360 in their ability just because they can have sex with a guy yeah doesn't typically doesn't always

04:16:41.280 necessarily translate to them being able to get them into a relationship can i ask you something

04:16:46.160 because this really drives me crazy hold on let's let her answer okay and then you can i i agree with

04:16:52.100 you i mean there's been times like i found a guy like hot like physically or whatever and then there's

04:16:55.940 been like other aspects i didn't like but like i don't know maybe we had like good chemistry but

04:16:59.540 there's also been times like i i just want to fuck like and we've like we've like stayed i don't know

04:17:05.140 a fling i don't want to say like maybe situationship but there's been also times where like i've established

04:17:10.020 like i've wanted a relationship with him and he never wanted one but he openly said i don't want to date

04:17:16.420 anybody but would keep me around and i was okay with that because i also was like oh i like being single so

04:17:21.460 like you're fun like i think we have a good time together and i'm okay with just being your fling

04:17:26.980 can i ask you this though yeah um i understand that maybe you were just looking for something

04:17:31.700 casual just in terms of your own like what you were looking for yeah but of the men even that you had

04:17:39.460 casual encounters with would you say that if you were looking for a relationship and they were looking

04:17:45.620 for a relationship they were at least physically attractive enough for you to be in a relationship

04:17:52.580 with them or do you go slumming slumming yeah do you like when you have casual sex you no no no

04:18:01.380 because my what i've understood is typically when women go for just a casual encounter they prioritize

04:18:10.500 in the opposite direction of how men work if they're like if a woman is maybe not as particularly

04:18:16.820 interested in a just a casual one night stand if she's gonna break her rule she's gonna break the

04:18:22.660 rule for the really really really hot attractive guy whereas men work the opposite way men are gonna

04:18:29.300 in an effort to procure said casual encounter they're just going to they'll they'll get with a girl that

04:18:37.940 they would never be they would never date this girl i mean but just to get the pussy they'll i mean

04:18:43.540 i'm very i'm very picky like granted all my exes or whatever none of them look alike and sometimes

04:18:52.180 my friends are like like who the are you picking but i'm also very like if you're like everything

04:18:57.060 matters and like i don't fuck on the first date it's just like i want to get to know you and there's

04:19:02.260 been times like i don't know i ended up hooking up with them and then over time like no but like

04:19:06.260 you're fun enough to keep around i just don't want to like necessarily deal with your stuff but right

04:19:11.140 so that you can you can make some sort of determination like okay this person has baggage

04:19:16.420 or maybe they're toxic they're not the person that i'd want to be in like a healthy loving relationship

04:19:22.660 with but the quite the going back to the question is of the casual sexual encounters you've had

04:19:29.300 have you ever had one with a guy that purely on the basis of his physical looks you would not then be

04:19:35.700 in a relationship with him because okay you just wanted to get a nut get your nut off for one

04:19:42.340 sorry i'm not gen z i don't know what the fuck you guys say bust a nut uh

04:19:47.940 has that ever been the case or have all the men you've slept with even the casual encounters

04:19:53.540 they were good looking enough for you to be in a relationship with

04:19:58.180 oh i i think the whole good looking like one out of ten rating is like

04:20:02.420 they all look different so like you were attracted to all of them i was but it's like i maybe like my

04:20:08.260 mindset on like physical looks is jaded but like i don't know i mean i've like hooked up with like

04:20:14.260 really hot guys and like they've said one thing and it like set me off and i'm like you're tolerable

04:20:18.740 so i'll keep hooking up with you but like and then there's been guys where i'm like i mean i think like

04:20:24.260 if i'm with you like i think you're beautiful but like there's been guys where like i guess you would

04:20:27.620 say they're like a seven but still in my head i'm like i don't know why like you're beautiful but

04:20:31.300 you're a seven to me but like yeah i don't know i'd still like any girls here have you guys ever

04:20:36.580 had a casual encounter with a guy that on the sole basis disregard if you were not looking for

04:20:44.580 a relationship he had some baggage issues whatever that would have disqualified him from a relationship

04:20:51.780 but on the sole basis of his looks alone anybody here who hooked up with the dude who you're like

04:20:57.460 had sex with a guy and you're yeah you're like he was just not he's not good looking enough to be in

04:21:03.140 a relationship with no right because i can tell you that men definitely have sex with women that will

04:21:10.740 never that they're just they're just looking for the sex i thought a guy dumped me because i gained weight

04:21:17.540 so i mean i've had a sex i've had sex with a lot of men well so like you know that's you but also

04:21:24.020 men yeah so you do it for work yeah so like some of the men i've had sex with are definitely not

04:21:29.140 attractive to me but also men and women okay but that was for work right i mean i did it for not work

04:21:34.980 too i think there's women that do just for the funsies i mean yeah okay well you're are you a sex

04:21:42.260 addict no not at all okay all right look i'm i'm just i'm not disputing that like you know women

04:21:49.380 will do a pity fuck every once in a while no i did i did i like trek looking guy i used to really

04:21:55.460 go for ugly men i used to like really go for ugly men okay sure it happens i just like i just made fun

04:22:05.460 of as a sort of general principle here look yeah women will have a casual sexual encounter with i

04:22:11.940 don't know whatever maybe alcohol is involved who knows you got the beer goggles on you're like

04:22:16.260 this guy's ugly whatever i get it it happens but as a sort of generalized principle i do think it's the

04:22:22.020 case that there's a massive differential here when it comes to like if i just i mean we can even test it

04:22:30.340 but if as a guy you just you you're just pleasant and you're like want some dick ah that's not really

04:22:38.740 enough but women will date the ugly guy because she loves him and he makes her feel good like

04:22:44.820 there's so everybody on this panel has a friend who you're like that's him and this is you yeah

04:22:51.140 yeah well here's my other criticism though is i think women's appraisal of men's attractiveness

04:22:57.300 is uh very lacking in generosity and women's appraisals of their own attractiveness or other

04:23:04.340 women's attractiveness is very generous well women are very generous women we see beautiful women in

04:23:11.620 every element of our lives like just advertisements you're getting beautiful women in your face all

04:23:17.540 day every day and yeah in person but women also tend to put a little bit more effort into their

04:23:21.700 appearance on average than men do sure i'll grant it so yeah it makes sense to kind of see women and

04:23:29.300 femininity as this beautiful thing we we that's shoved down our throats every day i also think

04:23:35.140 then i believe in masculine and feminine polarity to mean that women and men have certain fundamental

04:23:40.340 differences and i think women are more likely to see the complete picture of somebody than rather than

04:23:45.860 just on the physical thing just because women are more intuitive and internal and men are typically just

04:23:50.660 more external and visually driven and i think we have an easier time seeing a guy who is maybe not so

04:23:56.980 attractive uh we see his personality you can take status and whatever into account as well but

04:24:02.500 sometimes you see a personality and you're like i know he's ugly but he's cute like post malone is an

04:24:08.820 ugly man and that's okay but like then you see his interviews and i don't i actually don't i mean he's a

04:24:15.060 little you know a lot of tattoos and he's got he lost some weight though recently yeah but i'm saying

04:24:22.180 like in his he's actually not a like he's not a bad looking guy jeremy allen white fine he's

04:24:27.860 there he's the guy from the bear he looks like a rat from shameless yeah everybody said like oh it's

04:24:33.460 rat boy summer when he came out with his tv show because he was like the new hunk and he's not that

04:24:38.180 attractive but i mean again like the character that he plays but right but you're using post malone as

04:24:44.580 example here and he's a incredibly successful music artist talented creative has a good personality

04:24:52.260 like you said he's got a lot of positive characteristics going for him and also i don't

04:24:56.420 think he's not like i don't think he's an ugly dude to be fair but um but if you put him working at a

04:25:05.060 7-eleven but that happens too every girl every girl on this panel has a friend who at one time you're like

04:25:11.060 like he works at auto zone and he's a four and he's not even that nice why do you like him and

04:25:18.260 they're like i just he makes me laugh i don't know like they that happens yeah i get that people date

04:25:23.940 people but i think i'm i'm more looking towards okay what what is the gravitational pull right so in

04:25:33.380 terms of the gravitational pull i think that again you have these women who are frankly delusional when

04:25:39.780 it comes to their own self-assessment of their physical attractiveness they're going to be

04:25:43.540 chasing a certain caliber of dude i think it's a bad recipe i think it's a recipe for disaster then

04:25:50.740 they're gonna and they're maybe gonna move through their 20s dealing with these dudes maybe they get

04:25:56.180 a situationship maybe it's a couple months some dudes will string a girl along for months or even

04:26:00.980 years right i think i think what you end up what you have happening is that when it comes time to

04:26:10.900 like okay who's gonna be my husband who am i gonna have kids with these women are gonna almost have

04:26:16.740 this sort of uh resentment towards their partner because they done dealt with a bunch of really

04:26:25.460 really really attractive dudes when they were younger because they could get sexual access to

04:26:30.100 them now when they're a bit older they're and they're okay oh shit none of these guys gave me

04:26:34.740 commitment uh but i'm i think i'm this caliber i've dealt with this caliber of man now i'm settling even

04:26:42.260 though if you actually look at both of these people they're actually equivalent their looks equivalent

04:26:48.180 what are you basing this off of i feel like you just wrote this story as fan fiction in your head

04:26:52.340 i don't know a woman that's in this position you don't what do you mean i don't know a woman who's

04:26:56.500 like all right well i slept with a bunch of really hot guys in my 20s and now i'm in my late 30s and i

04:27:02.900 can't find a husband that's as attractive and checks all these boxes what's the so i'm gonna

04:27:07.860 marriage for i don't know the average age of marriage you don't know no i if i believe it's

04:27:14.900 i think it's one or two years older for men but i think it's like 29 30 for men and maybe 27 28 for

04:27:21.300 women okay so okay what are they doing from 18 to 28

04:27:30.100 are you asking me in dealing with always i'm saying okay what i was saying is i don't think

04:27:36.260 you're gonna get women who were just sleeping with super hot guys in their 20s get to their 30s and be

04:27:42.660 like well now i have to settle for this ugly guy and then just be mad and be like i wish you were hotter

04:27:47.860 i dated hotter guys in my 20s that i don't and then and then they break up look i'm not saying

04:27:52.740 it's the case for all women i don't even think it's the case for most women are looking for love

04:27:57.700 they want a guy that's going to be even 30 40 that's a huge swath of the population i don't know

04:28:05.060 the precise numbers exactly they are saying that uh i think it was by 20 what is 2030 20 40 like

04:28:11.780 something like 45 55 percent of women are going to be single at the age of 30 or 40 something like

04:28:17.220 that so the singleness uh that's pretty evident here but is the singleness just because standards

04:28:23.940 that women are setting have gotten higher not necessarily in attractiveness i get that you're

04:28:27.540 saying that women are over inflating their attractiveness whatever i don't think that that's

04:28:31.460 the standard that women are saying single for i think that women are staying single because they

04:28:36.180 want a man who is emotionally intelligent respectful who they feel loves them who is at a certain place

04:28:42.500 in their career or wants a family and who isn't just like looking for whatever the the next best thing

04:28:48.740 just to be clear the genesis you asked me why it's important and so i'm providing you with my answer

04:28:54.740 so i do think that it it is the case that this is a phenomenon that's happening and perhaps you're denying

04:29:01.380 it you are you saying that what i'm describing you don't think it maps onto reality at all not in

04:29:07.780 what i see in my day-to-day life so you don't think like i don't know if what percentage of women would

04:29:13.780 you attribute that this is the dynamic that's happening i couldn't even give you an estimate

04:29:17.940 because i don't encounter that you've never you don't encounter it no i have single female friends

04:29:23.540 i have married female friends like i but i'm not running into anybody in that situation just

04:29:28.420 just curious where do you live philly philadelphia yeah and i i work in new york primarily in a major

04:29:34.660 urban city and yeah maybe that's how it is out here in california is philadelphia to uh or philly

04:29:40.340 to uh new york city it's about an hour and a half train ride yeah yeah i mean there's like

04:29:45.220 huge swaths of women for example in like major metropolitan areas like new york city where like

04:29:50.740 you would think there's an abundance of options but all these women are massively complaining about

04:29:56.260 not being able to find men right deep into their late 20s and into their and that's not because

04:30:00.900 they're not they're finding men that they're not attracted to on a physical level i think it's a

04:30:05.300 massive component that women have and and there's a lot of factors i don't want to just put it solely

04:30:11.300 on this but i do think it is the case that because women have become accustomed to having the sexual

04:30:17.460 access to certain caliber of men again i think there's other components too i think men need to level

04:30:22.340 up in a lot of ways also but i do think it's the case that once you've done dealt with a certain

04:30:27.700 caliber of dude it's very very hard to go back to joe schmo mr average guy and if you're an average

04:30:34.260 woman let's be real like here's what i see average women don't want average men that's the problem i see

04:30:41.780 i think it's because now the average woman is out earning and out performing and higher educated

04:30:46.260 than the man than the average man component okay so i think that's the factor i don't think it's

04:30:51.540 attractiveness i do think it is also attractiveness and i would agree that it's also so uh socioeconomically

04:30:57.940 too yeah and sure in the 60s our mothers our grandmothers used to settle for guys that maybe

04:31:03.700 didn't check all the boxes because they couldn't have a bank account but now you can do all of you're

04:31:08.580 not limited by that we don't have to rely on men to survive in the same way that we did 50 years ago

04:31:14.580 i'm not even making an argument so your standards are going to be higher right but i'm not even

04:31:17.860 making an argument about providing i'm not saying i'm saying that that is why i think you're seeing

04:31:23.220 a bigger disparity because women don't need men they don't need to settle for men who aren't checking

04:31:28.500 all the boxes like they did 50 years ago if you were a single woman 50 years ago good luck baby

04:31:34.180 so women are deprioritizing the things that have traditionally made men attractive to women

04:31:38.900 and they're over prioritizing what physical attractiveness emotional availability and support

04:31:44.500 okay hold on if women are deprioritizing the things that were traditionally uh the things

04:31:50.260 that traditionally deemed a man attractive which would be being a provider uh then what are the

04:31:55.940 the things the metrics by which women are going to find men attractive they're going to be uh

04:32:00.580 physical attractiveness no they had they had do you think women in 2025 care more about looks than they

04:32:06.740 did in uh 1950 no because they had to just settle to survive but you think they care more about looks

04:32:12.340 hold on let's i think they care more about emotional availability i'm gonna go ahead and grant that

04:32:16.660 but i also think society has moved way more into a superficial uh realm i think back in the 1950s

04:32:23.780 people probably didn't even men did not prioritize like physical attractiveness to the degree that we do

04:32:31.220 now absolutely that just is inherent with social media and with the gamified version of dating that we

04:32:36.660 have with apps right and i think we're also talking specifically about the population that is

04:32:40.660 prepping for marriage not just dating yeah being in free superficial relationships yeah if you're

04:32:45.700 looking for actual marriage the reason that that metric has gone down the reason that less women

04:32:50.420 are settling is because they don't need to out of survival well i mean i suppose i could explain it

04:32:54.980 like this one thing that comes to mind i guess to perhaps try to articulate the phenomenon that's

04:33:00.660 happening um have you ever did you you went to college right yes did you live in the dorm room where you

04:33:05.940 shared a room okay well here here locally we have university of california santa barbara

04:33:11.540 uh the college students oftentimes are in dorm rooms up to two three four people in a room there's bunk

04:33:17.780 beds right and then sometimes there's like a shared shower between two dorm rooms so eight people to a

04:33:23.460 shower yeah or there's like communal i'm familiar with them yeah yeah so it's very hard like once you get

04:33:29.700 out of college and then you go say you have a good career and then you get your own place and you have

04:33:36.260 your own room in your own bathroom it becomes really hard to go back once you've had that experience of

04:33:43.220 having your like own private space to go back to have like a bunk bed and having a not not a housemate

04:33:51.060 a roommate in that same way once women have dealt with a certain caliber of dude it's going to be really

04:33:58.500 hard to then like potentially downgrade women want love it's as simple as that you don't want

04:34:06.660 why are you making so why are you making it also also something that people do and i think men do this

04:34:12.500 too i i call this the sort of amalgamation effect so you you let's say you've dated five people and each

04:34:19.940 one of those five people have had like a specific characteristic about them that was ideal so maybe one

04:34:26.260 for example for when it comes to women and what they find attractive one boyfriend he was really

04:34:32.020 funny the other boyfriend great end of sack the other boyfriend was rich the other one was really

04:34:38.260 good looking and then you you've seen all these characteristics in individual boy and some of them

04:34:43.540 might have multiple of these characteristics uh but now you've had all of these experiences and you now

04:34:50.100 want to what you want is an amalgamation of all these positive characteristics that you've encountered

04:34:56.660 in dating the reality is i think you got to pick two but if you get two that's it well you're the one

04:35:02.740 saying that men won't commit if they can't get the one which is the most attractive i didn't say that

04:35:09.780 we had a whole 40 minute conversation about it what restate the position you said that there are men

04:35:15.140 that will not date women just because they're not they'll sleep with them but they're not attractive

04:35:19.380 enough to date them and i said if they have all the no he said date yeah commit commit to commit right

04:35:27.220 i i consider a exclusive dating relationship really quick to that and i'll let you do it so okay they

04:35:33.860 they've actually done a study on this and they they asked men if we could give you 80 of what you want

04:35:40.340 and i forgot i forget the exact numbers but maybe should we look at that and it doesn't really matter

04:35:45.940 i'll just say that a higher proportion of men said oh yes 80 of what i want in the partner that's

04:35:51.700 fantastic i would love that i will i don't know if the term is settle but i will accept 80 of the

04:35:57.860 things i want maybe they're missing 20 whatever you do that same thing with women and they say nope

04:36:02.980 i'm not settling for 80 i want it all who did that study it was literally it was a it was a poll

04:36:09.860 i don't know it was a facebook poll it was buzzfeed it's been done we can pull it up can you try to

04:36:15.060 find it because she's she's i would like to see that because i don't believe that i think it's

04:36:19.460 probably 80 for both genders is my assumption of but i don't know what they want let me see if that

04:36:29.060 i know i'm i'm joking but i feel like if i was like yeah a facebook poll yeah

04:36:33.700 no i know i feel like if you really like the person that's really compromising communication

04:36:40.900 comes in though because there's been guys where i'm like i really don't like this little thing

04:36:45.380 about them but i'm like i'm gonna tell them how i feel if they're gonna handle it and be a dick then

04:36:50.580 i don't want you if they're open to trying then i'm gonna continue trying to see if maybe a

04:36:55.540 relationship is in the books with them sure it depends on your personal deal breakers that yeah

04:37:00.340 that too 100 yeah i'll say for me personally i with you know my last relationship i

04:37:09.460 cannot imagine like that was incredible on all on all levels and while it's hard for me to imagine

04:37:16.980 being in another relationship i know i'm 30 years old and there is a possibility that that could happen

04:37:21.300 for me at some point it's what was that a shock to go ahead uh oh yeah big scary number um but yeah

04:37:31.860 i mean i know that that's a possibility but it's like i can't imagine that there's going to be another

04:37:37.060 person that measures up to every area of life that he had all his success in wait so just to be clear

04:37:42.900 you're going to be comparing all your future potential partners to your ex i mean i don't i don't know

04:37:47.780 i'm seven months out i don't know um we need to read a couple chats here and nick you probably

04:37:53.860 the oh the question is and here while we pose it maybe i should have asked it first would you be

04:37:58.500 willing going around the table to settle for a guy who meets 80 of your standards yeah yes yeah

04:38:06.580 absolutely yes yes all right yes i gave it away yeah would you i would say you know like if we're

04:38:15.300 willing to work together about things that we need to change then yeah okay yeah all right

04:38:20.100 let's do some chats uh nick do you have the age thing pulled up yeah all right uh pasty george a

04:38:25.860 lot of mid to ugly women including fat ones go to africa simply to get port by the black men there

04:38:32.900 because the men in their own countries are avoiding them like the plague because of feminism is this a

04:38:38.100 phenomenon in like jamaica or something i think i've heard about uh jamaica nigeria and tunisia are the

04:38:44.020 three hot spots for female sex towards thank you pacy george he says chair four don't be simple

04:38:48.580 it's women's biological instincts that drives them to go for the best possible mate you can't fight

04:38:54.020 biology just as a trans person can't be something they're not okay there's pacy george again thank you

04:39:00.980 for that appreciate it if i met a woman who was everything that i wanted she would be my girlfriend

04:39:06.340 but the moment i find out that she has a high body count has baggage or has any feministic influence

04:39:11.060 she is dumped show of hands who here is a feminist

04:39:16.260 oh damn okay we got some feminists here uh going around the table super quick do you think you'll be

04:39:21.140 better looking in 10 years time so you're 25 will you be better looking at 35 no you're 23 will you

04:39:29.380 be better looking at 33 no you're 30 better looking at 40 probably better looking at 50 uh it depends on

04:39:36.580 how much i'm making can you tilt your mic down just a bit sorry or posture it works too uh 60 30 years

04:39:43.140 probably not by 60 but who knows with medical science so better looking at 50 versus 30

04:39:48.820 definitely better looking at 40 than 30 50 again it just depends on where i am financially and then uh

04:39:54.100 going back 10 years were you better looking at 20 or now at 30 no now at 30 okay why is that just

04:39:58.740 i was morbidly obese okay that probably checks out um uh 23 better looking in 10 years time at 33

04:40:07.380 different but still good

04:40:11.460 so and by the way you can say just as good looking too i guess yeah so just as good looking more better

04:40:17.780 looking just as good just different okay 43 20 years same answer uh 30 years 53 same answer 40 years 63

04:40:25.940 same answer 50 years 73 same answer 60 years 83 same answer 70 years 93 it's all gonna be the same

04:40:34.900 answer 80 years 103 i don't know how the human body can survive that but i mean people can live to

04:40:42.020 their 100 uh so do you know do you have a sense of when you'll peak i don't really i mean you might

04:40:49.940 not like this answer but like i don't i think women will just look different over time and subjectively

04:40:55.060 speaking from or um again if you take the buzzfeed poll i'm sure other people will disagree but i

04:40:59.860 think i'll just look different not any better any worse

04:41:04.980 okay uh what about you yes okay so you're 20 or wait hold on you're 31 excuse me

04:41:10.980 better looking in 10 years time at 41 yes 20 years time 51 yes 30 years time 61 i would say yes 40

04:41:18.900 40 years time 71 at that point i might start to croak a little bit that's the okay and then you're 31

04:41:24.900 were you better looking at 21 or better looking now i would say now just because i've taken better care

04:41:29.300 of myself do you have any photos of you when you're 21 yes not on me but on your phone yeah i mean they

04:41:35.940 exist yes okay you maybe when you go back there you can send them and we'll do a let the audience

04:41:41.940 decide okay you're 25 better looking in 10 years yeah 35 yeah 20 years 45 i'll be about the same

04:41:49.780 same yeah uh 30 years 55 maybe then i'll start being a little 25 to 55 better looking one

04:41:59.540 i feel like i'd peak around like 35 because like now from like even years ago i feel like i was always

04:42:05.700 like good looking but i've taken a lot better care of myself and i see it progress so i'm like okay i think

04:42:11.620 all so gross all right holly uh into the mic if you can you're 62 better looking in 10 years time 72

04:42:16.740 i'm just gonna sail it on through yeah i'm gonna look like this for and i'm gonna be wearing the

04:42:23.780 same thing too this is my uniform forever it's her uniform all right uh what and then going back in

04:42:30.580 time 10 years ago 52 better looking or better looking now well let's just into the mic into the mic

04:42:36.580 into the mic okay um 18 to about 22 i was smoking hot uh it hit the fan when i was 28 to about 32

04:42:49.380 wasn't looking so good it hit the fan yeah about uh i got really smoking hot at 42 and i didn't even

04:42:59.060 know it it was other people telling me that okay i think that sufficiently answers my question thank you

04:43:04.740 uh you're 20 27 better looking in 10 years time at 37 i think i'm gonna still look beautiful but will

04:43:10.260 you be better looking i thought we have the option to say like we're gonna still look good looking well

04:43:17.140 you can say you're you'll be just as good looking i'm not the question is will you not be attractive

04:43:23.540 or be attractive you can still be attractive as you get older but it's a comparison so i think i'll

04:43:28.980 be just as good just as good looking okay 20 years time 47 yeah just as good looking more more

04:43:34.260 good looking so from 27 to 37 not better looking but just the same yeah okay uh 57 30 years

04:43:43.540 67 40 years yes 77 50 years yes 87 60 years i would hope that i'd be dead by then but yeah

04:43:52.820 97 70 years same answer but yeah 107 80 years 100 is too long to live i should be dead by then for sure but

04:44:01.380 yeah okay um interesting so wait and you said you just you will keep getting better looking right no

04:44:08.660 just different just different like i'm gonna do my best to take care of my body good nutrition and

04:44:13.780 use the resources i have available but yeah i think that i'll just look different and that beauty is

04:44:18.420 different in every age okay i mean all right it's an answer

04:44:24.660 my mom wasn't attractive in her 20s but in her 30s and 40s she was smoking hot like she got better

04:44:31.540 with age love to see it i mean i'd have to see the i can send you photos but yeah she was yeah my mom's

04:44:39.060 still kind of cooked in her thing no she's always been very very skinny it's her face and her hair she

04:44:44.900 just she kind of i don't know it's just one of those things she got better looking with age all right i

04:44:49.300 mean this whole age thing i just feel like you guys like you say you'll be who here thinks they'll

04:44:54.980 be better looking as the age because i know some of you said i'll be the same who here thinks better

04:44:59.460 looking as you get older okay you three you said 45 you said i don't know if you're giving me your

04:45:05.380 trolling answers or whatever and then i think probably 45 will be a peak but again it depends on

04:45:11.060 because i'll get plastic surgery let me ask you all three of you a question if i could wave a magic wand

04:45:18.500 that would outwardly advance your your age outwardly so just to be clear you're not going

04:45:26.900 to die sooner you're going to live just as long as you would otherwise live you're not going to get

04:45:32.020 any health problems anytime sooner than you would otherwise get them i will just simply advance your

04:45:37.860 outward appearance 10 years or 20 years you stay there for however much the length of time is

04:45:46.340 that you think you'll be at your peak or whatever do you take it yes okay yeah yes so

04:45:55.860 just to be clear and again you still you're not going to die anytime sooner yeah you guys would age

04:46:03.380 advance yourself because just because you guys think you'll look better than i'm going to be 30 pounds

04:46:12.820 lighter within the next year and i would i would love if you could just wave a wand and that would be

04:46:17.620 the case like right now so yeah you need time for that to happen no no hold on yeah hold on i think

04:46:24.020 you're misunderstanding uh so you you would remain your same weight i'm saying that by the end of this

04:46:33.940 with my current trajectory i'm going to lose it's not it's not i've had all these interventions

04:46:39.620 in this period of time i'm literally instantaneously just changing like all the change like assuming you

04:46:48.340 didn't make any changes you're just aging aging advancing you're and i'm not allowed to get plastic

04:46:55.140 surgery and i'm not allowed to lose weight or make any changes like that so well let me ask you this

04:47:00.340 take you and say you don't do anything okay everything kind of mostly stays the same

04:47:08.340 10 years down the road and then in the next year you're competing with your 10 year older self and

04:47:15.300 you both get to lose weight you both lose weight at the same rate you're saying that 45 year old you

04:47:21.140 would be better than 35 year old or 30 year old we both have the same access to weight loss and plastic

04:47:26.340 surgery then i'll just stay how i am that's it's easier to work with like it's less you know aged

04:47:34.580 skin is harder to work with if you're going from a cosmetic perspective what about you are we just

04:47:38.660 going like off of looks yeah i mean depends what i'm going for in life i feel like yeah i would like to

04:47:46.100 stay 35 i don't know because like i look back on myself like even a few years ago and like i was cute

04:47:52.260 whatever but like i take better care of myself but did you say you'd be better looking at 45

04:47:57.460 i think you did no no i think i would like that'd be like my peak but i'd be happy at 35 like i feel

04:48:01.940 like but when you say peak like you will be more attractive at 45 than 25 i think i have the

04:48:07.700 capability of looking hotter yeah or looking better than i am now but okay so if that is the case and i

04:48:12.580 think we all want to be as physically attractive as possible don't we yeah you you'll stay looking as that

04:48:21.540 45 year old for 20 years so instantaneously right now i make you look like you're 45

04:48:28.100 right now and you right now again you you're not going to die anytime sooner you're not going to have

04:48:32.580 any health problems anytime sooner but i instantly make you 40 look like you're 45 no i wouldn't why

04:48:38.660 not no i like the 35 i don't know okay fine yeah 35 do you yeah i would i don't know why i just would

04:48:44.420 because i feel like at that point like i'm like i always feel like i've been progressing tell you

04:48:48.580 what here's what we're gonna do you're like women in their 30s i will you know what forget

04:48:52.420 the magic wand i will pay to give you plastic surgery to age you to 35 we'll pay for it and

04:49:00.180 on top of that i'll give you ten thousand dollars what surgery is that no there's probably i'm sure

04:49:05.300 there's a plastic surgeon then that can fuck your face up and make you look older we're not gonna

04:49:11.060 fuck your face up but we're gonna we're gonna do some sort of procedure cosmetic procedures that are

04:49:16.340 gonna start giving you a little bit of wrinkles a little additional sun damage whatever it is

04:49:22.340 you know because over 10 years there is going to be some physical changes but also depends if like

04:49:27.060 you're taking care of yourself or not or tell you what we could well we could also do instead if you

04:49:31.620 don't want to do cosmetic procedures even though you seem to say that you'd look be better looking

04:49:36.740 and we'll pay for it fully and we'll pay you just for the doing the experiment i'll give you ten thousand

04:49:41.700 dollars uh will you do well first off will you do it no okay how about this i will hire a makeup artist

04:49:48.660 one of the best you live in la right yeah i will hire a makeup artist for the next year

04:49:54.100 every single day to come to your house and make you look older so you get to remove it it's nothing

04:50:00.500 i feel like i'd be happy at 35 like i'd look back at my like 25 year old self and i'm like damn like i look

04:50:05.860 better so are you down with that though can we okay so they say uh here you know we're gonna get

04:50:12.820 into our next segment here a lot to get through uh so we are gonna do we put all of you through ai

04:50:20.340 and we age advanced all of you oh okay i'm excited so uh yeah let's uh all right you're

04:50:26.980 ready you got it ready to go i'm not gonna look better can we skip me how far are we i don't

04:50:30.500 want to fire my dog actually pretty excited these ai programs they mess me up yeah i don't know how

04:50:37.460 far it was hotter when i was 21 than 25 ready oh boy oh my god honestly like you're actually pretty

04:50:46.980 i can see you i can literally end my existence if i look like that i don't like you actually look

04:50:53.060 like a really pretty i will pay any surgeon to fix me i don't care it doesn't look better than right

04:50:58.260 now all right next can you go next oh oh she's cute okay you look so sweet there you go very cute

04:51:09.620 i mean i look nice but yeah you look like you would judge me that is future you okay all right next

04:51:18.420 i'm so excited oh i feel like i've seen oh she looks so sicilian

04:51:25.060 oh that's your eyes are popping yeah that's actually that's making me a little bit emotional

04:51:30.260 because like yeah well you think you're better in the middle one and the end one than this one

04:51:35.060 they're all so cute and i all right i had a i had a near-death experience uh recently and

04:51:43.140 i don't know that's just cool to see who the hell cares oh my god that's just cool to see

04:51:52.580 is this yeah i need a second because that's like really that's nice

04:51:56.820 i'm gonna take a minute okay

04:52:10.100 it wasn't that bad uh next she looked good in all

04:52:13.540 it's like oh my goodness why did you say hey

04:52:21.460 you said you said i'm just gonna keep getting better

04:52:27.220 no she said she's gonna get different

04:52:28.740 she said different all right

04:52:34.900 that's definitely different

04:52:39.220 next yeah it was like happy tears in a weird way i look like a witch i think this is inaccurate

04:52:45.860 because asian people don't age like that well you threw it off with your fake contact lenses so

04:52:51.700 oh my well i'm blind i need to see did they need to be colored well i have a sponsorship with them

04:52:58.260 so they give me free lenses i i feel this i'm on the same wavelength as you have a you have a

04:53:03.300 contact lens sponsorship yes hapa kristen oh you have them oh she has them

04:53:11.140 okay wait what's it called hapa kristen

04:53:15.300 isn't that like offensive now no not at all no hapa just means like half white half asian that's

04:53:20.820 all i thought asian people said that was offensive i don't know whatever next

04:53:26.180 oh that's sweet

04:53:29.540 no oh god

04:53:34.820 hey we can do it if you want we'll get the plastic surgery done to

04:53:38.900 to make it happen all right next

04:53:41.460 hey that was cold that was cool guys who did that yo what the fuck that is so messy of y'all

04:53:51.380 what the fuck nick

04:53:55.060 bro i know what kind of car you drive and i know where you live

04:53:58.580 oh she's gonna come get you bro she's coming for you all right next

04:54:04.980 i look like a lola

04:54:15.540 what's a lola a grandma oh yeah but in tagalog okay yeah next

04:54:23.060 you oh yeah yikes and it's better than usual

04:54:29.140 it could be worse all right and then we have me next yes okay oh wait oh this is an old photo

04:54:37.060 about the beard damn they are they don't you look so happy

04:54:40.020 like a lot of us to be honest because i don't even think your last one looked like you

04:54:55.300 that's what yeah i think the middle ones the middle ones seem kind of accurate but i don't know

04:54:59.540 the last ones look very like and and now what we've done is we've changed your guys's gender do we

04:55:04.820 have the gender swap

04:55:09.700 i will do we have do we have

04:55:12.900 yeah all right um i didn't know sign up for this so this wasn't

04:55:19.140 oh let me read the super chat really quick um lucas chair three comedian fancies herself a

04:55:24.580 highbrow intellect calling us maga folks bricks brian to avoid any ass of variations

04:55:31.140 ass of i think he meant accusations of misogyny why don't you bring back leonardo johnny to have

04:55:38.340 it out with chair three oh that'd be interesting oh leonardo and i know each other kind of i'll do

04:55:43.780 that i suspect it would be a cat fight beat yeah she's cool i'd do that uh and then pasty george

04:55:49.540 thank you for the super chat man appreciate it all right so the question you're gonna ask yourself

04:55:53.460 is would i date my male counterpart i don't know it's a no because i like white guys and i'm not

04:56:00.900 white all right oh my goodness actually why did i look chinese though like that is i think it's your

04:56:10.180 eyeliner honestly i would honestly honestly i'm kind of like latino the third one i look like i um

04:56:18.180 i destroy villages make a small can you do smaller yeah i would i would honestly i usually i'm into

04:56:26.420 yeah click that click right small all right just right small see can you just drag it into the

04:56:32.500 corner it should be able it should magnetize no wait no yeah drag it it should magnetize yep let's do

04:56:44.180 that perfect nice we'll just leave it there uh so would you date the male version i really thought

04:56:48.580 the answer would be no but honestly i would say yeah i would smack that yeah i don't know but no

04:56:56.340 probably not and that looks asian you don't like asian guys i like asian no i am well well what the

04:57:01.940 fun if i had to choose it would be actually i like asian and white guys that's kind of but white guys

04:57:07.220 all right next whoa okay would you date the male version of you with the beard he's not bad looks

04:57:16.820 like an actor oh yeah maybe with the beard but not the other one okay uh next i would you

04:57:30.740 like that i am the spitting image of my brother that's weird uh so no uh because of that okay he's

04:57:39.140 handsome but no all right next oh god do not i was meant to be a woman let's just skip

04:57:52.740 i look like i sell drugs i think i think the messy bun messed it up i think it's the hair it did

04:58:00.580 something oh god not bad swipe left this is not bad no no you look like a magician

04:58:11.700 you look like megamind that's who that looks like with the beard

04:58:26.740 i mean look you look like a magician and what do you rate that guy is he a 10 is that a 10 because

04:58:34.500 you're a 10 you were born to be a woman yeah i was definitely born to be but but what do you rate

04:58:40.660 that guy is out of on a scale of one to 10 questionable that's uh into the mic oh sorry

04:58:46.420 questionable i'll have to debate on that okay all right i don't want to insult anybody that looks

04:58:51.380 like that all right next oh no oh no i definitely would not you don't like he's the middle one's

04:59:03.060 really cute you don't like asian guys no it's not bad i just don't like how i look as a guy that's

04:59:09.380 okay all right okay okay next damn ew i look like my dad

04:59:19.940 nice he's kind of handsome yes handsome oh jesus would you date the male version no

04:59:25.780 no no i kind of look asian though too what it did turn a lot of the panel asian

04:59:30.980 yeah all right hey i'm here i'm here okay get ready next if he's dead again oh he is oh my god

04:59:42.340 you look like someone i know oh yeah right there look at that dude wait it looks like uh who's that

04:59:48.340 comedian um no no uh timothy dylan wait timothy is it timothy dylan yeah tim oh tim dylan a little

05:00:00.180 the middle one's tim dylan the middle one's brunette tim dylan faces i swear that face is

05:00:06.260 so familiar can you google tim yeah the middle one is tim dylan for sure i think i'm sorry i i'm in love

05:00:12.900 with myself at the far right i'm serious nice i need to get that photo nice it's like that's who

05:00:21.700 i've been looking for what's my problem research discord that's him oh but yeah i can kind of see

05:00:27.700 it a little bit a little bit all right uh let's go next let me know when you're ready i want that photo

05:00:35.220 how do i get it oh okay can i see it again that was quick not bad honestly you look good i would

05:00:45.540 probably date myself yeah handsome like a nice guy nice skin great skin yeah the far right one's like

05:00:55.060 hot all right next oh oh not bad felicity this one this one's actually okay handsome that's like

05:01:04.980 boy band yeah hey felicity come on usually it does you dirty like this one's pretty good why the ears

05:01:10.900 every time it did add weird we know what you're hiding behind your here pull your hair back felicity so

05:01:20.580 we can see your ears wow those are you got some normal i think it's great years they're normal

05:01:31.140 show them again look look at them she pops okay next okay uh okay oh she's a bottle i would

05:01:45.780 so um yes but i would be scared are you scared she does have an intense stare about her she looks

05:01:52.740 a little crazy very intense i would be a little frightened looks like a clingy like i thought you

05:01:58.420 like clingy brian you like a woman who's only about you i need to get up for a bit uh felicity's gonna

05:02:05.460 ask you guys some uh questions though unless you guys have something you'd like to discuss amongst

05:02:10.020 yourselves spicy that was really cool i liked that a lot yeah okay um how tall are you and what's the

05:02:23.940 minimum height of a man you would date starting with you i'm five five and um i don't know i dated

05:02:31.220 short guys before like five eight five nine it depends i i honestly don't really have like they can't

05:02:37.460 be shorter to me but if i had to pick obviously it would be like i don't know five ten at least but

05:02:45.780 i don't really care that much i mean i do but i don't i'll take what i can i mean what about you

05:02:54.180 i'm between i don't know i'm sometimes 4 11 and sometimes five foot i'm gonna say five foot i'm

05:03:00.340 five foot i usually date shorter guys so i would say i probably the shortest i would date is five

05:03:06.660 five it's like the shortest i have dated so okay i don't really care though i'm five four and as long

05:03:14.340 as you're five four it's fine okay i'm five eight i've dated taller and shorter guys um so i'm open to

05:03:21.300 both i've liked my experience with taller guys but again i it's really not the contributing factor i

05:03:26.260 probably wouldn't date somebody with necessarily like dwarfism as a perfect as a personal preference

05:03:31.860 but i height's not a big thing for me when you guys say shorter you mean do you mean shorter than you

05:03:38.260 yeah he was shorter than me oh really how tall was he um he was like probably three or three or four

05:03:44.340 inches shorter than me so what is that uh five four five four yeah something or five four five five

05:03:49.540 how long did you date him um so one of them i dated for a year and a half that was actually my longest

05:03:54.580 term relationship and then yeah he was like cute little italian guy it was great

05:04:02.740 um and then yeah i think the other one was like probably like right around like an inch shorter

05:04:07.060 than me he was also my other long-term relationship right underneath a year really yeah that's interesting

05:04:12.100 i've never met a girl that dated a guy that was shorter than her like shorter than her by a lot

05:04:16.980 what about you well i'm five three so i would prefer that the guy be taller than me

05:04:22.020 and i used to think the sky was the limit until i went out with some guys who were six eight

05:04:26.580 and then my nose was at their belly button so i feel like that was too tall but yeah pretty much

05:04:31.380 open to any height okay what about you i'm five two i mean i prefer taller i've dated guys like i as

05:04:37.620 long as they're taller than me i'm fine with that i just get mad when they start lying because i've

05:04:40.980 had that happen on on like online dating like i've dated men that are five six i prefer like five

05:04:45.860 eight and above but i've had a guy lie put that he was five ten and i met him and he was like five

05:04:50.820 six and i'm like but yeah as long as they're taller than me yeah no it's so bad more often than not

05:04:58.180 they're like five ten and then like they come up and i meet them and i'm like why am i looking at

05:05:01.620 your nose like you're not five ten like why are you lying like you just ruined you just ruined your shot

05:05:07.380 like yeah i was like you have to be six feet i was like i'm not i'm five five yeah he was like

05:05:12.820 you have to be no no and what about you holly five nine and five nine okay yeah so i'm five one and i

05:05:23.460 don't really have a preference for height i feel like most men that i've met have been taller than

05:05:28.180 me anyways i've honestly never met a man who wanted to date me who was shorter than me so i don't know i

05:05:35.620 mean i'm pretty open to it but like i said five one i don't think i've met many men who are shorter

05:05:40.820 than five one have has anyone else ever been with a guy where they're like you're too tall like it's

05:05:46.020 awkward oh yeah i've not been with like sexually but like i've dated a guy and i was like this is not

05:05:52.260 gonna happen how tall was he he was seven foot that's too tall that's too tall that's really tall he

05:05:58.100 couldn't fit in normal cars and we talked about that for like an hour and i'm like i can't i can't

05:06:02.500 i feel like i can't i slept with some i slept with somebody who was six seven

05:06:08.580 and that was like a lot if i can't kiss you on my tippy toes i can't yeah

05:06:14.900 i have a love-hate relationship because i was with uh oh go ahead sorry i was with a guy that i was

05:06:20.420 dating for he was like six foot six and so like i can only imagine like the neck cramps that he got

05:06:25.780 bending over trying to kiss me yeah like i kind of like it at the same time

05:06:29.220 i think tall men are for tall women like if they're six six i'm not going at that yeah

05:06:36.740 same the tall guys like short women like people say women always go for taller guys which is like

05:06:42.260 that can't be true but a lot of tall guys do prefer short women because they like the height difference

05:06:46.900 too yeah yeah i'm not gonna lie if a guy is like six five or taller that's kind of scary for me like oh

05:06:54.500 you're so tall i'm literally looking up at you i don't want to be looking up you know what i had

05:06:59.220 this friend she was four nine and her boyfriend was six seven that's usually if you're like on a

05:07:05.940 crazy end of the spectrum i think that's what happens but also the opposite end of the spectrum

05:07:10.100 happens too like i was on a date with a guy the other day and he like loved that i was like towering

05:07:14.740 towering over him because he was like oh you're gonna make me look so good to my bros

05:07:18.100 i do tracking the short guy i know i don't i have a king spring i have a friend who's a dude who is

05:07:27.620 five four and his girlfriend is a model and she's six one and they're the cutest thing ever when they

05:07:32.820 hold hands it's adorable does he go like this yeah kind of that's cute the guy has to go for uppies to

05:07:40.100 get a kiss i know that's really cute oh my goodness that's cute um okay what would you want the minimum

05:07:47.860 yearly income to be for your future husband starting with you this question um more than me what i have

05:07:54.180 now like more i mean at least like i don't really know it depends on the man to be honest if if someone's

05:08:03.700 like actually like very manly and they make they don't make that much maybe i'll be okay but probably

05:08:08.980 at least 500k a year okay what's like the minimum you would do the minimum yeah

05:08:17.780 um i don't know honestly i would like a yeah maybe like 300k a year yeah but it's but i'm not saying

05:08:29.060 that because i no i'm not saying that because i'm just like oh like but it's because i i have like

05:08:34.740 properties and stuff like that i think it's emasculating for a man to date someone that has

05:08:38.660 more than him so i tried to date guys that had less than me and it just it feels bad for them

05:08:45.380 too it's not only me like i'll work around it but like they just don't feel like a man around me and

05:08:51.460 it's fine so that's why i say that if i was some girl that makes like three grand months i would say

05:08:55.700 like yeah if it makes 5k a month i'm okay with it you're thinking canadian right yeah okay yeah i

05:09:01.460 definitely agree with you because i have definitely met men who have said that like

05:09:06.260 when they're in a relationship with someone they do want to be the one that makes more because

05:09:11.220 like they've admitted themselves like if a woman makes more than them it makes them feel less of

05:09:15.220 a man it makes them insecure and i don't agree with them i don't think they should be insecure but

05:09:20.020 i definitely like see where you're coming from yeah i just don't want to make a man feel emasculated to be

05:09:26.100 honest that's my only if i was lower that i would if i was making no less than what i make i would be

05:09:32.420 okay with that but also that's kind of unfair because what i do but yeah what about you nothing

05:09:39.300 nothing no well you're you did say you want to stay at home husband yeah i don't care and your

05:09:43.700 husband is a stay-at-home husband right yeah when we met he was in the military so and they don't pay

05:09:48.740 that much but now he's just kicking it okay cool he just he just takes my photos and videos and you

05:09:57.220 guys share a bank account or kind of you give him an allowance no like he has my credit cards do you

05:10:05.300 want to be my boyfriend sure he like holds i mean he has like all my cards all the time like i do very

05:10:11.860 like typical like feminine things like i cook i clean kind of he holds the money but i mean he

05:10:22.420 doesn't spend it like he's he's not crazy with like spending it is he gonna get pregnant

05:10:29.620 is there like a limit for him no he doesn't he doesn't like do crazy things with money so what do

05:10:37.620 you mean when you say stay-at-home husband because you said you cook and you clean what does he do

05:10:41.860 no it's not really like a like he just helps me really he films my content okay kind of like an

05:10:49.300 assistant yeah kind of okay thank you what about you i'd want him to match what i make or more okay

05:10:57.220 so for me as excuse me as an entrepreneur i think it's highly likely that unless i date a fellow

05:11:02.340 entrepreneur or business owner i'll probably make more than him so what's more important for me is that

05:11:07.380 he can like that he can take care of the bills in case i get incapitated in some way like especially

05:11:13.700 if i get pregnant and i have a child with him the first three years is really fundamental for the

05:11:17.860 mom to be as present as possible or have a caregiver so if i can be off of work when i have children um

05:11:24.500 not saying that i necessarily would but if just to have the capability i think that's what's important

05:11:29.540 to me so as long as he can take care of the basic bills if i get out of work or that if i get

05:11:33.700 pregnant that's what i'm okay with is there like a specific number range or just like something to

05:11:38.740 um i it depends because it depends on where we live i don't know if you just take the

05:11:44.340 general cost of living if i live in california that would be fine for me

05:11:47.860 where are you from i'm originally from huntsville alabama but i'm in orange now

05:11:52.100 orange county yes okay okay or orange the city yeah okay what about you um so i would say

05:11:59.060 i it's not a deal breaker but i would prefer the man makes more than i do just because in the past

05:12:04.260 when i've out earned the man the power dynamic gets skewed and i feel like i become the daddy in

05:12:09.220 the relationship and i don't like that um i very much enjoy being a passenger princess and having my

05:12:15.220 doors open and things like that so i would prefer to be the baby in the relationship you are quite

05:12:21.620 feminine you kind of remind me of like a disney princess thank you you do have like that nice

05:12:28.740 like soft voice that like oh yeah like a disney princess would have oh thank you well if any

05:12:34.500 masculine men want to slide in my dm but um is there like a specific number range you're thinking of

05:12:42.980 so since i live in la i just feel like minimum six figures because otherwise it's really difficult

05:12:48.180 just to get by comfortably so a hundred thousand probably i mean which also feels kind of low for

05:12:53.460 la but also i'm probably going to still be working most likely um so it's not hard and sad i'm pretty

05:12:58.660 flexible because obviously compatibility on all fronts matters but financially it can definitely

05:13:03.860 tank the relationship i've noticed when the woman significantly out earns the man okay what about

05:13:09.860 you i would say at least six figures at least as much as me um like la too like it's expensive as

05:13:16.180 well but um if you're gonna like include kids and like family down the road into the picture i would

05:13:20.180 expect a lot more because like who's gonna take care of the family like i would expect i would

05:13:24.660 and like i don't know i feel like the guy would be the supporter so as long as 100 at least 100

05:13:32.980 and like also depends on what they do because i feel like in some um careers there's like room to

05:13:38.740 grow and then some there isn't so i feel like they need to focus on like growth versus like i feel like

05:13:44.580 like some um jobs are like stagnant that makes sense yeah i would expect them to at least make

05:13:50.260 like six figures like at least 100k on the like low end okay as long as they're not bums and i know

05:13:56.260 that they're like striving for something yeah yeah okay and what about you holly this question got me in

05:14:02.740 trouble last time but um i want somebody established i want somebody that owns property that has investments

05:14:13.300 that isn't in debt and that that they can go travel with me

05:14:20.660 and so how much is that

05:14:24.500 somebody that owns property

05:14:28.820 okay somebody that has investments that's already established that isn't in debt

05:14:38.100 um and has the time to go travel with me whatever amount that is

05:14:47.700 you know think of la standards how much is it to own a home how much is it to own property do you own a

05:14:55.620 home yes okay but you said oh can you own just one property does he not need to own multiple

05:15:03.220 properties well god bless him if he owns one property right on finding that's a challenge

05:15:09.060 into the mic yes so okay five because it sounded like you wanted multiple properties

05:15:19.620 i would what did chat what did she say last show you said you wanted the guy who makes like

05:15:24.100 they you wanted five million or something well you wanted me to give a dollar amount give us a dollar

05:15:28.740 and so i said five million because i want them to have more than me and the last guy i dated

05:15:36.900 was of that so i didn't really think i was shooting out you know i didn't really think i was

05:15:46.100 you know but uh your friend wanted to change into the mic your friend wanted to challenge me and

05:15:51.940 tell me that if you see it nick just that it wasn't possible i can't really tell that i was in dreamland and

05:15:56.820 i'm going you're dude you don't even know me

05:16:02.420 is it common um i'm actually genuinely curious are there people even into their 60s who are like

05:16:08.340 paycheck to paycheck is that yeah there's a lot of men that it's a major problem in the u.s that are

05:16:15.300 um but i've got a lot of friends that are really really wealthy that's why you see older people

05:16:21.380 working at walmart and stuff now more and more yeah maybe they're just sometimes sometimes it's

05:16:28.900 for socialization that's usually like the greeters well that's what i was thinking yeah maybe they're

05:16:33.220 just looking for something no it's you know it's an increasing problem i think there's a curve i think

05:16:38.260 there's some people if i look at friends from high school it's definitely a curve there's definitely

05:16:44.980 winners and losers and you're thinking how can you be the same freaking age and what did you do with

05:16:51.540 yourself you know uh moving on though what about you for the income or did you already answer it um

05:16:59.300 so i don't really have like a specific dollar amount i guess as long as like the person has like a source

05:17:07.140 of income where they can take care of themselves you know they're independent and they're actually you

05:17:12.020 know taking care of themselves they're being responsible and i think that's pretty much enough

05:17:17.460 for me sure uh moving on would you rather cross paths with a random man or random bear on a hike

05:17:25.620 um a random man you wrote bear here what you wrote bear oh which one i rather see in person come

05:17:36.260 across oh a man okay what about you i probably wrote and read it wrong probably a man but possibly

05:17:44.820 a bear man i guess i guess if you had to pick one i guess man what about you uh i have a gun either

05:17:52.100 way so i'm gonna go bear uh because i could take some photos let's say you didn't have a gun i'm

05:17:59.620 always gonna have a gun in the woods my southern can i ask you a question uh how would you feel if

05:18:07.060 you had not eaten breakfast this morning hungry why so it's a hypothetical um so assuming you don't

05:18:15.060 have a gun in this hypothetical which would you rather cross paths with bear so i could take photos

05:18:21.220 if they're both gonna try and kill me well hold on why a random bear might not try to kill you and

05:18:27.140 the random man might not try to kill you right but i'm not gonna take there's nothing in the

05:18:30.820 question that like that incorporates into it that it's there's a certainty of attack do i get to pick

05:18:38.180 the bear or the man or just random it's a random man or random bear bear they're cuter okay what about

05:18:47.620 you man for sure what about you um i think i put neither but if i had a choice if it was a brown

05:18:54.900 random man random bear well i said either brown bear but if not a brown bear then a man

05:19:00.820 because you know that saying if it's brown lie down if it's black fight back if it's white good

05:19:04.820 night yeah wait i thought there was a black bear the black bears are black fight back and i can't

05:19:11.060 fight so no black don't know blacks are the no black they're the they don't attack yeah they don't

05:19:16.580 attack the grizzly the brown actually in california a woman was recently killed by a black bear but

05:19:21.380 um when they say fight back they mean make yourself bigger and like make noise and i suppose the

05:19:26.820 brown bears are more of a threat but the black are fine i only know that because i used to hike a lot

05:19:32.260 in pennsylvania new york when i lived there but i said bear so to the questionnaire yeah okay what about

05:19:38.500 you holly man or bear a man what about you i think i wrote down a man okay uh so bear bear bear bear

05:19:49.860 okay why do you pick bear why don't you pick man bear is cuter and would be a cooler experience i'd

05:19:56.020 like to see a bear in my lifetime okay in the wild is there any reason you don't pick men because i could

05:20:01.140 see a man whenever i don't see bears often okay so it just sounds like a more fun hiking adventure so for

05:20:07.460 the novelty yeah you wouldn't be scared to come across a yeah be terrified bear i'd be terrified

05:20:12.980 would you be more terrified coming across a random man or a random bear depends on what the man looks

05:20:17.140 like okay um cool what about you well so um my reason for this was nuance because men are women's

05:20:29.460 only natural predators and there are apex predators just statistically depending on the bear attacking me

05:20:35.860 there are things i can maybe do whereas if it's a man who is you know if i'm alone and the man's

05:20:40.980 alone and he is set on finding a victim or anything there's not much i can do so i'm just taking a

05:20:46.260 gamble here wait sorry did you say that men are women's apex predator yeah there are only natural

05:20:52.580 predators that's a really i've never even from feminists heard the framing of men being like apex

05:20:59.940 predators of women well they're that's really strange there are biggest predators that i've

05:21:04.500 heard that like statistically they're number one killers yeah number one killer is the number yeah

05:21:08.740 the number one reason women die over yeah and it's usually a man you know not like it's usually in

05:21:14.020 terms of wait hold on women the number one killer would be of natural causes or health complications i

05:21:20.980 think they're talking about of predators in general yeah of something that's going to attack you

05:21:25.140 yeah okay but then you'd have to like okay you'd have to look at per capita and the the rate of

05:21:32.740 encounter so all of you encounter men way more frequently than you encounter bears and almost every

05:21:40.580 woman has every not just bears every other animal that could potentially be a predator but i wouldn't

05:21:46.740 blame the bear for attacking like this is why the guy let me ask you this though if you encountered

05:21:51.700 mountain lions at the same rate that you encountered men which one do you think would

05:21:56.900 like which one do you think would be more uh likely to attack you the random man or the random

05:22:03.220 mountain lion if we were encountering mountain lions that often we would know how to move around

05:22:07.140 them in a safe enough way if you encounter a mountain lion you're not guaranteed to die same

05:22:10.900 thing with a bear they don't hunt us you're not guaranteed to die if you encounter a given

05:22:16.180 random man i know but i'm saying that men hunt us sometimes bears and mountain lions don't hunt us

05:22:23.300 well we go hold on they're just a portion of men hunt women but why are we that seems like a very

05:22:29.060 generalized statement i'd like you to revise it to like the what percentage of men you think hunt

05:22:35.540 women i don't know the percentage but predators serial killers anything like that is going to hunt

05:22:40.420 okay well i don't know what the percentage is but the percentage of bears and mountain lions is zero

05:22:45.540 they don't hunt humans it's a territorial thing kill they kill they don't hunt us they aren't

05:22:50.740 hunting us i don't know i don't know the specifics of uh the i don't know if it's not anthropology what

05:22:56.980 would it be uh whether or not bears hunt humans polar bears do but regular bears like in the woods

05:23:05.060 don't polar bears are the only thing that hunts humans they don't actively hunt but you do agree

05:23:11.220 that they can kill humans of course and they do kill humans yeah but it's a territorial thing

05:23:16.660 it's like it's a protection yeah necessarily yeah a mountain lion won't kill you if you're not

05:23:21.140 encroaching on its territory or it's the term for somebody who would like study study not bears but

05:23:27.460 maybe just like a zoologist i don't know who what what the specific terminology is but uh look i'm not

05:23:35.620 an expert in the hunting uh what's the word the hunting behaviors of of bears but uh

05:23:45.780 kind of seems irrelevant i feel like if you get attacked by a bear though it's like

05:23:50.020 like you were in the wrong spot like i don't want to say like it like it's not your fault but like i

05:23:54.180 don't want to say you're asking for it but like why were you there in the first place but when it

05:23:57.300 comes to like men like man versus a woman it's like you're gonna wonder like why like man will kill

05:24:03.540 you in your house that's what i'm saying house you share like i if i if i already get attacked

05:24:08.020 by a bear at the end of the day i'm like well like i was in their home in their environment

05:24:12.340 like i'm not gonna be mad but like if a guy comes maybe they'll just do it in other ways though

05:24:17.060 i don't know uh well i guess uh do you think that picking bear is sexist

05:24:25.220 yes against men like you have a prejudice against men and you've deemed like you've done a risk

05:24:33.380 assessment and essentially what you're saying is uh i view men as this dangerous like the the risk

05:24:41.060 is enough that even though maybe they're i don't know if you here how about this what percentage

05:24:45.540 of men do you think would be inclined to either essay or murder you if they saw you in the woods alone

05:24:54.340 i mean i don't think you can put a percentage on it you can ballpark it doesn't need based on what

05:24:59.940 how would we know that just without looking up the statistics of how much like how likely one

05:25:04.980 in four women have been like essayed or something yeah i think they've said one in three but now it's

05:25:08.260 like one in four but also that's like such like a fat percentage and i feel like all women have

05:25:11.860 experienced like even a tiny like situation where they felt like unease with men so hold on but all men

05:25:20.260 i would say all women and all men have felt unease with the opposite sex like i even say that men have

05:25:27.540 experienced it a lot too it's just been quieter they don't do that too yeah that too but i mean if

05:25:32.740 unease is the threshold for i would rather encounter a wild animal over this group of people i think i don't

05:25:43.940 know but you can't you can't put like if you were to ask men like bear versus women the only reason i feel

05:25:48.900 like we would pick the bear over the man like and you can't compare women versus bears because men

05:25:54.740 are stronger than us bears are also strong bears are way stronger no i know they're stronger than men

05:26:00.580 but like nick can you pull up the discord gun she's saying that like if a man encounters a random woman

05:26:06.180 in the woods like she can it's almost impossible that she's gonna kill him unless she has a gun yeah

05:26:10.740 unless it's me but it's also impossible it's also it's even more impossible that a woman would encounter

05:26:17.460 a bear and be able to kill the bear the bear might not bears and they ran away hold on the man might

05:26:23.300 also not attack too yeah but here's the difference i've dealt with if the bear attacks me it's gonna

05:26:28.820 kill me pretty quickly if the man attacks me they'll eat you alive i'd rather just die you're gonna die

05:26:35.860 pretty quickly from exsanguination you will not necessarily they might or they might just like

05:26:41.060 harm you fatally but not like fully kill you so you're suffering for hours or you bleed out pretty

05:26:47.380 quickly from a bear attack it did it out of like a survival instinct but regardless the bear's not

05:26:51.860 gonna sa me yeah exactly exactly exactly say you i agree yes so i'll pick the one that there's no

05:27:00.420 chance of being as they're doing it out of instinct not out of like an emotional the average man versus

05:27:06.900 the average bear like which one is more dangerous again the bear's got zero percent chance it's gonna

05:27:14.660 say me and it's cute okay sure one bear we can go with that there's been many men who have um you

05:27:20.820 know encountered either a child or an animal in the wild and have um i don't know if i can say g-a-n-g

05:27:28.020 banged either the animal or the child and like these have been recorded wait hold on like there was a

05:27:33.220 group of eight men in india where they were recently caught with a lizard and like bears don't do that

05:27:39.460 okay so just to be clear we're going to i agree that there have been occurrences that are horrible

05:27:47.060 we're going to then attribute that to the general population of men no it's just a survival instinct but

05:27:54.020 you're you're pointing to some crazy thing that happened in india and saying well because of this

05:28:02.660 i'm going to have a generalized fear towards 50 of the population which seems animals will kill us

05:28:10.260 out of survival for themselves and what they know biologically but like men like why are they killing

05:28:14.500 give me a percentage what's the percentage chance of a man that i murdering you or harming you uh like

05:28:21.940 physically harming you like torturing you or essay i don't know exact numbers but if you want to

05:28:26.740 20 30 40 i think it's one in four women have experienced some form of like essay also there

05:28:31.620 was one situation i don't know because it's not a bear you can look it up too where i i don't know

05:28:36.420 what country it was but um some like little girl like underage was taken by a bunch of men and i

05:28:42.980 don't know what happened but she got out and a lion was protecting her and you could look this up but

05:28:46.980 the lion was protecting her you you can look yeah you can so yeah that's cool and there's plenty of

05:28:53.060 like female high school teachers who abuse male children and oh yeah i know this is like some

05:29:00.340 exclusive male thing but i guess here's my question if it is the case to pick it's okay to pick the bear

05:29:09.620 over the man because of your either your own lived experiences or there's stats or whatever it is

05:29:17.620 do you would you have any objection to somebody picking a bear over a black person

05:29:26.340 to those of you who picked bear do you object if somebody picks a bear over a black person

05:29:32.340 well yes because why bring race into it why bring gender into it that was the original question that

05:29:38.180 was i know but i'm right now i'm just probing the logic so if we change it and you pick bear over

05:29:44.580 a black person and are you a racist is it a black woman yeah you don't get to pick not the man if

05:29:52.820 there's a chance that it's a man i'm still going bare same if it's a woman i don't give it okay so but

05:29:57.780 it's a it's black person if there's a chance that it's a man then i'm picking this would you rather

05:30:05.780 come across uh george floyd or a bear in the forest bear well is it george floyd like today

05:30:15.620 he's dead i know i'll encounter a corpse in the woods i don't care no alive alive i don't know him

05:30:22.500 i'll pick bear oh okay so you're saying that even knowing who the individual is i don't know him like

05:30:29.300 that so bear you it's not a random man now it's a specific man a black man it's still a man i don't

05:30:36.900 know and i can't speak to anything about him but but again i'm asking though would it be racist to

05:30:42.260 pick the bear over a black person not not if it's not if you're still going with the mindset of like

05:30:48.020 i don't want to see a man in the woods which is still how i'm looking at it no no but here let me

05:30:53.220 ask you this let me change it like this i know you in your own determination you're viewing it from

05:30:57.700 well if it's still a man like if there's a chance it's a manager i'm saying let's say somebody

05:31:04.340 outside of you whether it's a man or a woman they say i would rather encounter the bear not because

05:31:11.140 they're a man not because they're a woman it doesn't matter but because they're black well what

05:31:16.340 would be their justification like why would they say that sure i love this question perhaps because

05:31:21.780 say they cite to criminal statistics that would indicate something related to you would agree that

05:31:28.340 there's disparities in criminality between the races not inherently but there is different

05:31:33.700 representation of criminality i don't know not inherently but if you look at crime statistics

05:31:40.580 certain races are more represented in crime statistics i haven't looked at crime statistics by

05:31:47.300 rate race so i don't okay but i don't know if i were to present that to you would you

05:31:52.660 sure but i don't yeah so i me personally no i don't look at a black person and get scared for

05:31:57.460 example that you said you lived in chicago i live in philly but did or who lived in chicago i did oh that

05:32:03.220 was you okay so well i don't even need to make this geographical but for example criminality is very low

05:32:10.100 amongst asian americans as compared to say like black americans okay right not not because of anything

05:32:16.900 inherent but this is just how the the what the crime statistics show okay okay so somebody was

05:32:22.500 making a determination based off that but then also let's say a person had negative encounters in

05:32:29.860 their own life and perhaps their friends had negative encounters in their lives with a black person and

05:32:34.900 then they use this as pretext to have perhaps bigoted opinions towards that racial group you guys would

05:32:42.100 say that this is racist right i don't think that saying you'd rather not see a man in the woods is

05:32:47.940 bigoted uh no this person in particular when asked this question they're not they're not making it about

05:32:55.540 gender i know you view it that way but they're saying i don't want to encounter this person in the woods

05:33:02.100 because they're black and they cite because they think it's dangerous they cite to saying i had

05:33:09.460 negative i my own experiences had negative experiences with black people you would then have

05:33:17.620 to grant if you're going to make that same argument that if women have had negative experiences with men

05:33:22.180 and that gives them justification to pick a bear over a man you would have to grant that same exemption

05:33:28.820 to a white person saying i would rather pick a bear over a black person solely on the basis not

05:33:34.100 about gender on the basis of their race if the bad experience that you're referring to is essay

05:33:40.420 then i don't care if their qualifier is black or bald or short or whatever it is i think that's valid

05:33:45.780 fine if you were essayed by somebody you can categorize whatever that triggers you and you can

05:33:49.860 be afraid of that fine okay but would it be racist no not if they were essayed and they're like yeah

05:33:56.260 i'm terrified of this and again that would work for black or bald or whatever okay and what so

05:34:02.580 if somebody answered that here that would be fine if they said i was essayed by this and now i have

05:34:09.940 this phobia whatever the qualifier was i'd be like all right that's your phobia i get it just like

05:34:15.220 violence of some form like they were attacked physically

05:34:20.820 it would depend like if the attack maybe killed their family or something i'd be like all right

05:34:25.300 no they were just like uh i don't know they got a concussion or something then i would say all

05:34:30.180 right you need to go to therapy work that out a little bit more that's wild why why would that be

05:34:34.820 wild it's a concussion you shouldn't be afraid so just to be clear but how about this what if a woman

05:34:40.500 she's never been essayed and she's just been punched by a random man and she got knocked out and

05:34:46.340 got a concussion would that not be enough pretext for her to want to pick the bear over the man i'd still

05:34:52.100 say she should go to therapy at that point and work that out so then you'd be you would object to

05:34:56.740 her picking the if she thinks every man's gonna punch her she does need to go to therapy because

05:35:03.460 not every man's gonna punch her but that's what you just got right no i said there's a one in four

05:35:08.580 chance that if that a man is going to essay a woman in her lifetime hold on there's a well okay

05:35:14.740 now we're getting into some semi-dubious statistics um but one in four women are going

05:35:19.380 to be essayed in their lifetime okay but i'd like to i think we got to explore what that actually means

05:35:27.060 because for example i've looked at the studies that these organizations put out like rain for

05:35:32.340 example and they actually include like where they're pulling this these numbers out of their ass from

05:35:36.820 and i've looked at the studies and they'll include things like like let me ask you this

05:35:43.380 uh is cat calling sexual assault no okay what if i told you that in these studies they categorize

05:35:51.860 this under a sort of umbrella term called sexual violence and they'll they'll categorize that as essay

05:36:00.340 so they'll pull women and have you been cat called and they'll include that in their statistics

05:36:08.020 i'm just curious by cat calling did they mean like somebody being aggressively cat called

05:36:14.020 something like that oh okay that's okay i would disagree with that but having worked very closely

05:36:19.700 with rain i am uh not privy to that study where they they've ever referred to cat calling as sexual

05:36:26.260 violence yeah it falls under this umbrella of sexual violence i looked at the studies that they

05:36:31.300 published the training that you get in rain does not does not say that um but yeah they obviously

05:36:38.980 because it would be a counter narrative to the uh the rhetoric that they're trying to put out there

05:36:45.140 now i think that this sort of crime is absolutely terrible i think if it can if if it has occurred

05:36:52.340 this person should uh face the maximum uh extent of the law perhaps even if they're like repeat offenders

05:37:01.860 i think the death penalty should be on the table but i think it does a disservice to try to put out this

05:37:10.180 rhetoric that basically says this is occurring way more than it actually is i don't really know why they're

05:37:18.340 doing this i don't know why they're trying to like maybe they want people to you know have a victim

05:37:24.340 complex or whatever just at the table uh is there anybody here that doesn't know a woman who was

05:37:30.180 essayed i've never been a victim of men no but do you know any woman who has ever been essayed

05:37:37.860 that's what i'm asking do you know women in your life that's actually no i actually don't know any

05:37:42.180 woman that's been essayed personally i don't i had girlfriends that told me certain things but it

05:37:48.100 wasn't i i don't really think it was i mean do you want to ask the table if they've experienced it

05:37:54.020 themselves no i'm not gonna ask that okay i mean that's that's fine but it seems a little you know

05:38:01.300 unfair to say you know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody i'm saying do you know somebody

05:38:06.420 who has been do you personally know somebody in your life several times men give me ultimatums

05:38:13.700 because i won't sleep with them okay and i'm not sleeping with them just because i don't like to

05:38:19.300 sleep around and i want to know their intentions are true but okay i'm sorry i'm sorry but well how does

05:38:27.140 that tie into yeah essay you didn't you say what's didn't you say essay was

05:38:37.220 i was like just just to offer an alternative perspective that actually helped your point

05:38:43.140 brian that that they've gotten violent i'm saying because i wouldn't that's horrible yeah yeah that's

05:38:51.700 horrific so that's why i'm i'm speaking on that yeah can i ask you a question just and i know you

05:38:57.460 want to come in i just want to ask a couple clarifying questions okay uh if a girl i've been

05:39:02.900 dating a girl for a year and we've had hundreds of consensual sexual encounters and she wakes me up

05:39:10.020 with a bj do you think that that's essay i'm unconscious is that essay no well have you told

05:39:16.980 that you don't like that is something you don't like feminists who will vigorously argue that because

05:39:22.820 consent must always be revocable so you can't be unconscious i'm sleeping she has committed sexual

05:39:29.380 act on me there are feminists who will argue that that is essay i'm i can't argue for other feminists

05:39:36.180 out there i'm telling you from my perspective that's why i think it's important to we just throw

05:39:42.340 these okay well one in four women have been essayed okay well let's actually look at what they consider

05:39:49.380 to be essay for example they'll say have you ever had a sexual encounter when you've had more than two

05:39:53.860 drinks oh and without actually asking the person well was it a consensual encounter but you had two

05:40:01.700 drinks they'll just say did you have a sexual encounter and you had two drinks there are feminists

05:40:06.500 and feminist organizations who will label that regardless of if the man was more drunk than she

05:40:12.020 was they will label that as essay so it's important to define these things precisely yeah has anybody

05:40:18.980 here ever had a consensual sexual encounter when you've had one two or three drinks were you was that

05:40:26.580 grape no no okay but there's some people who argue that it is yeah but they're not sitting here and

05:40:32.740 they're not talking to you right but you're citing but the reason i'm bringing it up is because you're

05:40:37.380 citing to a number that if you actually start looking at some of the breakdowns look i'm not

05:40:42.980 essay absolutely happens it's a terrible crime these people should be honestly they should probably be

05:40:49.060 you know whatever but i think it's important like i i don't i think there's a lot of rhetoric going

05:40:57.460 around that has a lot of women i i think women you should operate from a perspective of safety but i

05:41:04.340 i think if you're trying to push out rhetoric that's going to paint men as these just perpetual

05:41:10.020 predators and monsters i think that's pretty damaging both to women and i don't think they

05:41:14.660 are just perpetual predators and monsters okay i didn't claim that they are perpetual predators

05:41:20.260 and monsters but it is much more likely that we're going to be if we're going to be killed by

05:41:24.660 somebody it's going to be a man but look at the social stigma she's creating when she says

05:41:28.420 i think men are apex predators of women like that's very uncharitable framing of the dynamics

05:41:35.140 that exist between men and women but in reality but well no in reality men and women cooperate

05:41:41.620 and generally speaking get along and that's like the fabric of society this idea that like there's

05:41:48.660 there's an ultimate form of predation like and the majority of men are predate uh preying on the

05:41:55.300 majority of women is i didn't i don't think she was insinuating that and neither was i who is the

05:42:00.500 apex predator of men who's the apex predator of men well i don't think there's an apex predator of

05:42:07.220 humans there is there are other humans oh okay are men ever scared of women though the way women are

05:42:13.780 scared of men are like worried sure well i think that meant just to be fair men are completely

05:42:18.980 underrepresented underrepresented underrepresented in forms of reports of essay absolutely i think

05:42:25.620 that this is in my personal opinion this is not a gender issue this is a assault and crime issue that

05:42:32.900 is not gender related um and what i will say is just for the women in here and anybody who is watching

05:42:39.300 who has experienced these types of experiences before just from my life i can only speak from my

05:42:44.180 experiences i've encountered many different men there's only been two that have tried to take

05:42:50.260 advantage of me but i've also met like the other majority of men were incredible men who helped me on

05:42:55.060 the side of the road when my car was broken who helped me at a to pay for a meal when i lost my

05:43:00.420 wallet like really really incredible men and that's what i think the majority of men are like but it

05:43:06.340 but trauma is always going to speak louder especially the collective trauma of when women have been

05:43:12.180 given a space to speak about this trauma like with the me too movement and so it's natural and it's

05:43:18.340 um and it's understandable why women are going to lead with more defensiveness because i mean it's all

05:43:23.940 over social media the me too movement and how technically speaking men are stronger than women

05:43:30.740 physically i don't think that really takes into consideration women who are essayers are doing different

05:43:36.980 tactics of uh that are not necessarily physical um but again at the end of the day when

05:43:43.860 again it makes sense why there's defensiveness it makes sense like you know why women are on edge

05:43:48.580 because of the narratives out in society however there are also really really really incredible

05:43:53.540 men majority of the men are really incredible who just don't know how to step up when there is

05:43:58.820 such a loud voice out there and it also takes intentional work like for example i would not have been

05:44:03.540 able to receive this really great treatment from men like you know who are helping me on the side of

05:44:08.100 the road if i didn't work on my limiting beliefs about men too and how to regulate my trauma or my uh

05:44:13.540 my nervous system to believe in safe men so and i i do want to just go on the record and say i love men

05:44:20.500 i genuinely love men i love so much about them but you can't deny that there are bad ones out there and

05:44:27.860 that they are there they do pose a risk to women in a lot of ways but i'm not by any means painting that

05:44:32.820 that that's the majority or that that's all of them it's not of course but also the vast majority

05:44:37.940 of men who experience essay is typically at the hands of other men not to excuse the women essayers

05:44:43.300 but yeah definitely like the vast majority of men i do believe are good and i do love men but also

05:44:48.580 as women you know we are taught from a young age to protect ourselves yeah did you say men are apex

05:44:55.860 predatory of women what did you say about that oh yeah like just men are women's only natural predators

05:45:01.140 okay and and doesn't that give you like that makes you have no like not like that makes it

05:45:07.940 sounds weird because your job is basically like getting naked for men if you really think that

05:45:13.300 does that mean you have no like survival instinct because if you really think they're that dangerous

05:45:18.340 why are you literally getting naked in front of them and making money off of that screen and

05:45:23.220 meaning yeah but you're also stripped you also got naked in front of a bunch of men in a in a place

05:45:29.220 with security and yeah but the security is also male well let's not use a woman's personal

05:45:34.580 occupation choice as a reason to i think like um to perpetuate certain beliefs about men or women

05:45:40.500 i think it's weird that we hate them so much but we're willing to we don't hate them

05:45:44.020 at all we don't hate them at all to make that common is crazy no it's not i think it's crazy

05:45:49.220 no it's statistically accurate but it's still believing men are inherently good people overall

05:45:53.700 and like i was saying men's apex predator is also men can you just go into the discord just because i

05:46:01.220 want to pull this up because you maybe doubted the study that i was referencing so it's the uh pull up

05:46:06.580 the discord it's in research miscellaneous not the research not not under general it's research

05:46:19.300 it's the uh 2015 data brief we don't have anything more recent it's 10 years ago i mean

05:46:31.620 rain puts out statistics studies every year

05:46:33.620 i mean the ns i've what's that

05:46:39.460 so it's research miss misc

05:46:47.060 you got to scroll all the way past like resources past off topic

05:46:54.580 do you have it yeah okay 2015 data brief

05:46:57.940 i mean so what i'm it's actually what i'm going to show you is not actual uh and i assume well it's

05:47:10.420 not actual numbers it's how they describe things so do you have it yeah okay 2015 data brief

05:47:21.300 what

05:47:28.740 are you in are you in research misc okay so it's 2015 data brief

05:47:34.500 it's the fifth one down it's the fifth one down

05:47:48.340 okay so uh what i'm gonna have you do make it bigger you're gonna go to page five

05:47:53.300 so this is the uh national uh make it bigger bigger bigger put us on the other side that works

05:48:06.180 uh actually just leave it there it's fine uh scroll down scroll down

05:48:11.780 uh wait wait hold on hold on hold on hold on up up up up just a bit that's good right there

05:48:19.780 so here's where the the first two absolutely um

05:48:26.660 although there's a bit of confusion over to the degree like if you've had one drink and your

05:48:32.100 partner's had one drink is have are you not able to give consent that's another conversation but if you

05:48:38.180 go to sexual coercion and again at the bottom contact sexual violence so they collapse all of

05:48:43.220 these four things it's a combined measure that includes that that that sexual coercion right

05:48:48.900 so sexual coercion unwanted sexual penetration that occurs after a person is pressured in a non-physical

05:48:54.180 way uh refers to unwanted blah blah after being pressured in ways that include being worn down by

05:49:00.740 someone who repeatedly asked for sex or showed they were unhappy feeling pressured by being lied to

05:49:06.420 being told promises that were untrue having someone threatened to end a relationship or spread rumors

05:49:11.940 and sexual pressure due to someone using their influence or authority so

05:49:17.700 i just want to i guess what i'm trying to get at is a better sense of what some of those means so

05:49:22.740 having someone threatened to end a relationship so for example let's say you're a woman and you've had

05:49:27.140 consensual sex a hundred times with somebody and then you're all of a sudden say i no longer want

05:49:31.780 to have sex with you and then the guy's like well i want to continue having sex and he says

05:49:36.820 well i i respect that you don't want to have sex but if you don't want to continue being in a sexual

05:49:42.180 relationship with me this relationship is over she then makes a determination that she

05:49:49.940 she wants to keep the relationship so she then although reminder she just said she doesn't want

05:49:56.660 to have sex anymore in in furtherance of her keeping the relationship she then has sex with him was that

05:50:02.100 essay i think that's a misunderstanding of what that means with pull it back up yeah no i'm saying

05:50:06.740 that it's how else would it make sense it literally says this is this is the study that rain it's

05:50:12.420 literally from their website rain is not saying oh having someone threatened to end a relationship

05:50:18.340 how am i misinterpreting that because it's not saying oh you two have become sexually unaligned over

05:50:23.780 the years and now you're having sex with less frequency and like you're having a bigger conversation

05:50:28.340 that's completely calm going hey if we're not having sex more and more i think

05:50:32.820 we're just not compatible in this way and we're breaking up it's saying like

05:50:37.060 you're sleeping next to somebody and he tries to make a move and you go hey i'm really not in the

05:50:41.460 mood tonight and he's like if you don't do this i'm going to break up with you like and getting

05:50:45.300 really aggressive in your face it can only be charitable in your direction because it doesn't say that

05:50:50.260 either it doesn't specify that he's like that that's the context i'm saying that is in which it would

05:50:56.740 be coercive okay well hold on would it would it coercion is like a threat of something a genuine

05:51:02.100 threat of something so if a woman says i no longer want to have sex with you and the guy's like okay

05:51:07.620 well i want to break up is that no well but you see the vagueness of what they're saying there sure

05:51:15.780 they can word it better i think in my interpretation i think that somebody could fall under uh or or

05:51:24.740 perhaps a woman who's not as sophisticated as you sees that all of a sudden she thinks whoa i was

05:51:30.180 s8 in a previous relationship because i was not you know i didn't want to have sex with my boyfriend

05:51:34.820 and he dumped me i don't think but i'll say okay they have to word it better then i actually the the

05:51:40.820 woman who's going to be on the show the feminist who rage quit at the very beginning uh she had a

05:51:47.700 really interesting this is why i was kind of upset because she had a really really interesting take

05:51:51.300 that's on topic to this uh so and by the way wouldn't threatening to end a relationship isn't

05:51:58.820 that a threat but is that would that be essay if you're being threatening about it if you're just

05:52:06.500 saying hey i think it's time for us to move on that's not threatening to end a relationship that's

05:52:11.620 saying i think we're breaking up yeah i mean hold on but if it let's say the guy is frustrated and i pull

05:52:17.300 it or pull up the the thing real quick again not the video while he pulls that up i think also brian

05:52:23.220 there's a difference between let's say it's a stay-at-home mom and can you highlight the section

05:52:27.780 nick um yeah just that part yeah yeah i think there's a difference between like somebody who's

05:52:34.420 a stay-at-home mom and her husband is her main source of income and he's threatening her in the

05:52:38.820 sense of i'm gonna leave you with nothing you're gonna be broke you're gonna have um i'm gonna take all

05:52:43.540 your kids away there's a difference between that and two couples who have or a couple who has a

05:52:48.260 a fundamental disagreement about sex is incompatible sexually well they should specify that hold on

05:52:56.020 they should really like i don't think we should have any vagueness when it comes to very serious

05:53:01.540 accusations that relate to essay realistically it might now this is 10 years old this is 10 years

05:53:08.100 old it could be updated this this language it's not looking at they're not doing like statistical

05:53:14.580 analysis this is the language definitions okay so you think it's changed if anything i think it's

05:53:20.180 probably encompassing way more vague possibly benign behavior you're basing that off of nothing okay well

05:53:29.620 hold on the like one in four statistic or whatever that you're citing has been around for decades so this

05:53:35.060 this idea that oh brian now that i'm actually pulling up it used to be one of three okay well

05:53:39.780 now that i'm pulling up a study that seems to perhaps back up my position a little bit more now you're

05:53:46.100 like well the study's not recent enough but this is i we could probably find a more recent uh it's the

05:53:52.420 nis or whatever that has this same sort of definition for what they consider sexual violence and if that's

05:53:59.220 the case i think they should specify more but like i'll run it up the chain i i have a question for

05:54:04.420 you like um i'm just seriously curious and open-minded how about this feeling sorry okay okay go ahead go

05:54:09.780 ahead yeah i'm sincerely like i'm just open-minded about this because this is a topic i'm still debating

05:54:14.180 on myself which is um that section though is only one fourth of the different definitions so in your

05:54:19.780 opinion how much of the one in four statistic is affected by that particular group of people who may

05:54:25.620 be misidentifying threats for it might actually be in there if you're just asking me off the top of

05:54:30.980 my head i don't i don't know okay i don't know but i do think that uh i don't know i just think it's a

05:54:39.220 little uh it seems like a little unfair to just basically say men are apex predators so i'm trying to

05:54:45.540 push some degree of like uh dispute to men apex predators men bad we're not saying men you're citing

05:54:54.900 yeah you kind of are we're not saying men bad i don't think men bad so this is the video that

05:54:59.540 we're going to get into sexual coercion feeling pressured by being lied to

05:55:05.380 that's very vague now there are some for example there are crimes like if you pretend to be somebody's

05:55:10.340 spouse absolutely that's essay like if the lights are off and you get into somebody else's bed and you

05:55:16.100 pretend that you're the spouse or whatever and the woman thinks that it's actually somebody else

05:55:21.700 that's a hundred percent essay that's lying um i think there's also uh if you lie about like your

05:55:29.140 uh std status or whatever that would also perhaps be but just lying is that uh so somebody lies to you

05:55:39.620 is that essay if the lie then puts you under duress to make that decision

05:55:45.060 uh that well this vague no let's say you wouldn't have had sex with them had they not lied to you

05:55:54.180 is is the lie putting you in some sort of duress no but they say i mean give me an example uh they

05:56:00.340 say they're really rich but they're not no but you would have not otherwise slept with a broke guy no

05:56:06.820 okay wrong to do unethical manipulative yes but you wouldn't categorize it in essay

05:56:13.620 nick can you pull up the first uh tick tock video from the rage quit feminist

05:56:24.820 yeah we'll do audio um go ahead and start from the beginning the way men approach dating lacks

05:56:31.300 consent and i'll tell you why i date people of all genders women men non-binary trans um i'm i'm into

05:56:38.260 you not necessarily your gender so i hate to be so gendered in the way i'm speaking here but

05:56:42.420 this pattern is something i've literally noticed my entire adult life and i just need to talk about

05:56:47.300 it regardless of what i've been looking for whether i've been looking for something casual or whether

05:56:52.340 i've been looking for something serious there are very interesting patterns of the way that men

05:56:57.700 and women communicate differently in relationships like a woman will just tell you straight up if

05:57:02.820 she wants to keep things casual a woman will tell you if she wants to hook up a woman will tell you

05:57:07.380 if she wants to keep it casual like there's a lot of open and clear communication and they tend to

05:57:12.500 actually follow through with what they're doing okay maybe people's feelings change maybe things get

05:57:16.900 messy i'm not saying women are perfect in every way okay like women can be toxic in their own way

05:57:21.940 but at least they do what they say for the most part whereas men will tell you they're in love

05:57:26.740 with you and then ghost you the next day men will say whatever they need to say to get into your

05:57:31.940 pants that night and then whether they mean it or not and this might be like obvious or basic but

05:57:39.540 it's just really frustrating especially in a time like 2025 where it's like we're having conversations

05:57:44.900 about what we want out of dating like there's a lot less like assumed dating like especially as someone

05:57:49.700 who identifies as queer it's like i'm gonna be a pretty upfront with what i want here and like to

05:58:00.500 to sleep with someone under the context of this may be something that's going somewhere this isn't

05:58:06.740 gonna be a one night thing um this is something that we're building together we're building towards

05:58:12.260 a relationship like that is now the context that we have set for us sleeping together so for you to be

05:58:17.380 lying about that for that to be completely untrue and then like as soon as you get what you want

05:58:23.140 you just disappear um that actually feels non-consensual because i didn't consent to having

05:58:29.220 hookup i didn't consent to having a one night stand i consented to us building something and

05:58:33.620 you'll notice this because sometimes you'll go on several dates with a man before you're willing to

05:58:36.420 sleep with him and then when you finally do his truth is revealed and i just find this like

05:58:41.060 absolutely disgusting if you want to be casual or you want to hook up say you want to hook up but

05:58:45.300 the reason men don't want to say that is because they're worried that you don't want that so let's

05:58:50.260 just call that what it is you're tricking me into sleeping with you this is non-consensual oh you're

05:58:55.460 you're worried that what you want is something that i won't be okay with you're worried that what you

05:58:58.980 want is something i won't consent to so you're putting it in the context that i will consent to

05:59:05.780 under lies like this is actually a huge consent problem and it feels extremely violating if you're

05:59:11.860 a man who's doing this i want you to realize that you're rapey you're a rapey guy and yes that is

05:59:17.220 most of you so essentially what she's arguing is if a man is being dishonest with his long-term

05:59:26.500 intentions in an effort to induce a woman into having sex uh which to be clear i think is wrong

05:59:34.260 it's manipulative and it's unethical i don't think that's a crime i don't think it meets the threshold of

05:59:40.180 essay but she seems to think it should or is yeah so i'll first and foremost um and then i'll let

05:59:48.900 everybody else take the floor again this is not a gender issue to me this is a manipulation emotional

05:59:53.700 maturity and emotional integrity issue so i do not think that this is men are all bad or women are all

05:59:59.380 bad i think that there are certain groups of women and men that are manipulative and emotionally

06:00:03.620 immature as far as this topic goes um i think that at the end of the day yes there is

06:00:09.620 manipulation and coercion when it comes to sexuality between both men and women however at the end of

06:00:15.380 the day a woman and a man can consent i made the decision to go into that that sexual encounter

06:00:24.260 meaning that yes the words were there but if she didn't receive the commitment or or he didn't receive

06:00:29.380 the commitment in the follow-up actions to prove that then no it would not be um sex like essay it would

06:00:36.580 simply be naivety but not necessarily in a bad way it's just naive what do you think i think she threw

06:00:46.660 around uh the word grapey a little bit too loosely i don't think that's essay i think it's manipulation i

06:00:53.620 think it's trickery i think there is you know it's where you get into sort of the gray area of consent

06:01:00.020 because yeah this person wasn't consenting to a hookup but now is engaged in one because they got

06:01:05.380 tricked but i don't think that makes it essay they did consent they consented to the sex

06:01:12.820 under a set of circumstances what if she sucked and he doesn't yeah i was about to say that like

06:01:17.300 maybe maybe so but she's saying that the guy goes to you after so how would she actually be able

06:01:26.340 to come to the determination like two things could be possible it could be the case that she was

06:01:31.460 misled and i'm this absolutely happens right guys lie about their intentions don't dispute it at all

06:01:37.700 guys absolutely lie saying they want long term but it can also be the case and again i think that's wrong

06:01:44.500 still don't even if you could prove that he clearly lied and he was just trying terrible thing to do

06:01:51.700 don't think that that means you didn't consent um but then there's the guys okay well how would you

06:01:59.140 then differentiate between the guy who perhaps did have these intentions but then maybe there wasn't

06:02:07.300 the right sexual chemistry maybe he had this the sex happen and then he had a change of heart we

06:02:12.500 should tell her that he wouldn't just ghost her and be like psych got what i wanted and then out

06:02:17.060 that's not people ghost each other but either scenario i don't again uh i mean both are kind

06:02:26.020 of scummy one is worse than the other words he's like intentionally misleading whereas he did have

06:02:30.900 intentions to date her long term but then who knows maybe she was a bitch after sex whatever it is right

06:02:36.180 uh she you know the sex was bad whatever it is if he's intentionally misleading her is he tricking her

06:02:41.300 uh yeah sure sure i guess okay can somebody consent to being tricked what do you mean like

06:02:50.260 can you consent to being tricked yeah yes you can't really you're not being tricked then so again i'll

06:02:56.260 just reiterate that it's manipulative it's unethical yeah but it doesn't i don't think it calls into

06:03:02.020 question the actual consent no she consented to the sex but i'm saying it's the gray area of like

06:03:08.420 she was manipulated into that consent okay but i mean how far do we take this then i don't consider

06:03:15.780 it essay okay i don't consider it essay but if if it's a gray area then we would have to

06:03:22.420 you know make determinations as to all sorts of things when it comes to gray area like let's say

06:03:27.140 i'm a guy who only sleeps with women with with big natural boobs but let's say a woman had such a

06:03:33.700 fantastic boob job that i couldn't tell if they were fake have i just been i've been bamboozled

06:03:40.500 into consenting where i would not have otherwise consented wow i am now a victim i had sex when i

06:03:49.780 would have if the threshold is having sex when you otherwise wouldn't have like what about i mean

06:03:55.140 that's a kind of an interesting i think it makes you a shitty person what about you know uh i think she's

06:04:00.980 a certain level of attractive but she's wearing makeup and i don't know how she actually looks

06:04:05.860 underneath she's actually below my threshold of what i would the time the woman i would

06:04:10.980 fuck the woman this is so shallow yeah we've gone off the rails with this one but i feel like that's

06:04:19.620 i think fairest comparison brian yeah because like as opposed to tricking a woman into a relationship

06:04:26.420 she's got completely different she's got a magical push-up bra and there's and then you saw the

06:04:34.980 titties and you were like hold on no but she kept the shirt on during the sex but did she tell you she

06:04:40.420 was not wearing a bra like did you know was she telling you like if you like these are my boobs

06:04:44.900 titties without a bra you're not letting her wear a shirt and bra during the thing i'm more of a

06:04:48.740 small titty i prefer the small i'm uh god bless you i mean i like both both are nice but i'm team

06:04:54.900 itty bitty titty committee itty titties and big ladies yeah it's yeah small tits i i get we've gotten

06:05:03.300 off the rails to her point a few other a few other examples so it's like what about you know look men

06:05:11.300 lie women lie like for example what if i only i only wanted to i would only consent and there's no

06:05:20.660 gray hair like okay i refuse to consent yeah to a woman who's over the age of 35 and a 37 year old

06:05:28.980 on her dating profile writes that she's 33 i would have not consented had i known the truth and she

06:05:37.220 knows that's like a hard line for you you only sleep with women that are 35 and under yeah like

06:05:41.700 she has to know that's like the thing because then that makes her shitty too yeah like that makes her

06:05:48.100 a bad person i agree yeah i don't think anybody should and if you have that restriction you should id

06:05:54.180 wait what about this though so let's say on the dating app i put it's not even gonna be a funny one

06:06:00.020 but i just put you know how you can put what you're looking for i just put looking for long-term

06:06:04.020 relationship and i go out with a girl uh and she puts it too i go out with a girl we hook up

06:06:12.660 and uh she ghosts me afterwards and she put on her profile wait you were looking for a long-term

06:06:19.220 relationship and the only scenario in which i would consent to have sex with this woman

06:06:26.500 is if there was a continuity in the relationship i does this make her an essay-er i wouldn't make

06:06:33.540 the guy an essay-er either it would just mean that she didn't like you it probably means she

06:06:39.220 doesn't like it means she's a shitty person i'm not saying it's essay interpretation i feel victimized

06:06:45.940 well i guess she is a shitty person she owes me you are the victim of a shitty person but you are not

06:06:54.100 somebody's gonna get a job that's what i don't get like it's like okay that whole thing right which

06:07:00.660 look i don't think most women think like her but she threw around some words pretty liberally but it's

06:07:07.700 like to once you've had sex it's like if you're a woman and you're like well i wouldn't have consented

06:07:14.100 unless yeah that's your personal accountability comes in i think for both men and women you gotta

06:07:20.740 be savvy you gotta learn you gotta grow you gotta be savvy and take not people's words but their

06:07:25.700 actions if you were tricked into something i will say you are a victim of an asshole you are a victim

06:07:30.100 of a bad person who did wrong i'm not saying that you were essayed how about this i wrote this one down

06:07:35.300 okay the rest were just off the don't prepare this but these i honestly i'm excited

06:07:43.300 uh so say a catholic man who doesn't believe in divorce he marries a catholic woman which is true

06:07:50.100 at the time you're catholic right uh she also does not believe in divorce this is the catholic doctrine

06:07:55.620 divorces i mean there's some circumstances whatever yes they 100 align on values and she reaffirms and

06:08:03.140 represents multiple times her belief in the catholic faith and not believing in divorce they wait until

06:08:08.500 marriage to have sex and the husband only consented to have sex with her he's a virgin both of them

06:08:14.340 virgins under all the terms and representations she made at some point years down the line there's no

06:08:21.300 abuse he's a good man but she falls out of love she's unhappy again he's a nice guy she's just

06:08:28.020 falls out of love her faith starts to weaken and dwindle and she and nates she initiates a divorce

06:08:36.340 was he graped no but well i know nobody here at this table believes whatever the

06:08:42.180 fuck she was talking about but like under i under her logic

06:08:48.660 would he have been grapes then yeah under her logic i think we'd have a lot more

06:08:53.380 grapists in the world in a parallel universe where all of this is backwards then yeah yeah

06:08:58.820 okay anyways especially because like um i feel like capitalist may not even fully understand the

06:09:05.780 logic that she's i don't think she had logic portray i think that that to me i think was a

06:09:12.180 view grabber well she believes that she here's what happened she probably by the way she's apparently

06:09:18.900 poly which makes the whole thing really confusing but she uh very serious about it and what probably

06:09:25.780 happened is she was dealing with a dude they hooked up maybe he was like oh yeah i definitely want a

06:09:32.420 girlfriend he ghosted her now she's very upset and wants to ruin this man's life uh one more thing

06:09:38.260 how about this uh wait what what's the good one um okay good one good this gets prepared oh wait

06:09:45.860 it's gonna be good i'm stoked for the good one um okay what about

06:09:53.460 wait i lost it can't be that good if a woman it's not this one but i'll just read one of my

06:09:58.420 other ones if a woman who lies about being on birth control but she's not and the only reason that

06:10:05.300 a man consents to like non-protected sex is because she's on birth control would that be a form of

06:10:11.220 yes that's definitely yes yes i don't actually by law though i don't think it should be it should

06:10:16.100 be in the same way with ghosting right no in the same way with like stealthing stds yeah stealthing

06:10:22.020 things like that that's yeah absolutely not acceptable yeah that's oh that would be another

06:10:26.100 one that i would categorically say yeah that's essay like if she's like i want to wear protection

06:10:32.180 and the guy like takes it off like that's 100 yeah and despicable um but same i think but it's not

06:10:38.900 there's not a law though for the birth control thing so we should be like yeah i'm on birth

06:10:42.340 control blast inside and then like trap a guy yeah that's horrific i definitely do think that

06:10:47.620 there should be a law on that too yeah that's on like the exact same level of like taking off a

06:10:52.100 condom inside yeah like it's the exact same thing though i had a really good one that was a good one

06:10:57.300 one so according to her logic she's not even here last one then i'll move on to something a bit more

06:11:08.740 fun uh if she got with a guy and they both told each other by the way i i really want a long-term

06:11:17.140 relationship you know here's my you know i want i want this to last and then uh they have sex but he

06:11:24.100 he has a micro penis and then she's like i don't want to uh okay um from his perspective he could

06:11:31.460 argue that she essayed him because she ghosted him after finding out well you know the micro penis

06:11:38.420 uh if if we're going from her logic yes she would probably say yes to that yeah i think hair logic

06:11:46.260 would only work when it's a men and the wrong probably yep yeah all right let's move it on to

06:11:50.500 something more interesting uh there's a there's a different video yeah what wait what was it

06:11:58.660 oh you can play 20 seconds of it but she she found some okay so there there's like case law

06:12:05.380 that i already mentioned about like pretending to be somebody's spouse stds uh so there is there are

06:12:11.620 laws about that sort of thing so she maybe saw that and was like oh bingo it actually is a crime

06:12:16.900 uh why don't you just we'll watch 30 seconds of it sexual fraud is a real thing and it is something

06:12:22.180 you can take legal action against yesterday i made a post about the way that men date and how it lacks

06:12:27.380 consent how men approach dating often as telling women things that are untrue just to get them in bed

06:12:33.060 with them and how this is actually a consent violation okay so you can pause it there i mean

06:12:37.780 comment again she's just essentially she's saying okay she looked something up uh it's referencing

06:12:45.140 very specific situations where like a wife is has been like bamboozled into thinking a man is her

06:12:51.780 husband but isn't uh like stds these sorts of things not the guy said uh i don't know also also in

06:13:00.740 relationships well hold on i should finish my sentence like oh the guy said yeah babe i'm looking for a

06:13:06.660 girlfriend they have sex and then he's a jerk and doesn't call her back or whatever um but also

06:13:14.900 if you have any of you had this said to you or you've said it in a relationship i'll love you forever

06:13:21.460 yes yeah and it's like okay i think there are certain romantic statements that people will make

06:13:28.340 in relationships and then i don't think the person like who's say you're breaking up with somebody and

06:13:33.780 that person says but you said you would love me forever it's like these were romantic statements

06:13:39.380 said in the moment i don't think if you say somebody if you tell somebody that you're gonna

06:13:44.820 love them forever that that that then makes you beholden to stay with them forever you know i think

06:13:52.580 there's certain statements i don't know whatever i don't know if that makes any sense no it makes sense

06:13:57.460 yeah because you know you could say that this person is the love of your life uh i don't know

06:14:03.540 like it's usually seen like i'm gonna just leave you yeah i'll just say like high schoolers puppy love

06:14:08.900 you know they're always very like we're gonna be together forever we're gonna be the high school

06:14:13.380 sweethearts and you know you really do like get into that relationship thinking like you are gonna be

06:14:18.740 together forever but i think it's really normal and natural for people to kind of just grow apart from

06:14:24.020 people and just be two different people for sure you know like yeah at the time your intentions are

06:14:29.940 to be with them forever but things change but if you're intense but if you're like oh this lady only

06:14:37.140 sleeps with guys she's in a relationship with and she really likes me and she wants to be in a relationship

06:14:42.020 and i am not trying to do that but i would like to stop and then you're like all right yeah i'll be in

06:14:49.460 a relationship with you just to bang and you know the whole time that's not what you're doing that

06:14:53.860 does make you a bad person yeah it's manipulative it's wrong you're gross it's unethical not an essay

06:14:59.780 but you are gross don't think it rises to the threshold of yeah yeah uh oh also going back to the

06:15:05.780 looks rating thing can you pull up that photo of the two people oh goodness all right so oh no wow

06:15:13.460 that was that was great scroll out zoom out all right so beauty is subjective

06:15:23.780 here's where i struggle right here's where i struggle we have two women here two beautiful women

06:15:30.260 um i think again beauty is subjective but there are objective components to beauty

06:15:39.700 and i think there's a universality that can occur where i think 99 percent of people would say the

06:15:48.580 woman on the left is more attractive than the woman on the right now i want to open this up to the

06:15:56.500 panel here and see if we have some honest women here rate uh show of hands show of hands

06:16:03.380 is the woman on the left more attractive the left and the yeah the woman on the

06:16:11.540 tall one the left yeah is the white lady more attractive that is what you're asking

06:16:18.180 is the woman on the left more attractive you mean the white one she happens to be white but is the

06:16:24.180 woman on the left more attractive yeah in my personal opinion yes but there are some people who are

06:16:30.180 disgusted with white people and won't date them based on that that is true yeah but in that picture

06:16:35.380 though i think even if you're discussing white people you would still pick some anti-white racists

06:16:40.180 are well that's gonna have to make a make a compromise i think even if you hate white people with your

06:16:47.380 every inch of your body you would still pick the white one i mean objectively but i guess my question

06:16:53.620 yeah by western standards just a sec but like so we say beauty beauty is in the high of the beholder

06:16:59.460 but what what are the things that we're looking at when it comes to the woman on the left that we're

06:17:06.980 able to come to a determination collectively and it's universal almost near universal that the woman on

06:17:15.140 the left is more attractive like what is it about her i think it's that um the united states

06:17:21.620 has such a stronghold in the world with media movies everything that um like the white culture

06:17:30.900 is what people have seen all over but if you went to af af africa wherever she was you know in her

06:17:38.340 village she could i think she's australian aboriginal okay then australian aboriginal yeah but

06:17:46.900 let's go with africa i still i'm pretty sure even the african people are would not think she was

06:17:51.700 attractive the one no actually holly i never thought this i agree with you on that i think

06:17:57.860 yeah the western the western beauty standard is what most of the world sees so it is what most of

06:18:02.740 the world they're they're like i could this would this can work in the reverse too like you could show

06:18:09.140 somebody uh a really beautiful black person and like a really really ugly white person and even though

06:18:14.820 they're white they'd be like yeah the black person's more attractive not where i grew up there's some

06:18:19.380 people who would be like i will absolutely not okay who's like a really um stacy stacy dash

06:18:26.820 i don't know if i don't know where she mixed i don't know if that's fair stacy dash

06:18:30.420 clueless you know the black girl from clueless yes okay see it uh she's like really attractive

06:18:35.460 black i don't know if people are gonna be like well she's mixed so it's like is she i don't know

06:18:39.700 beyonce beyonce is a beautiful black woman no stacy dash more okay um stacy dash who's the one that

06:18:45.460 was married to gosh the tall guy that died that's english oh she's beautiful yeah what's her name

06:18:54.740 seal no not seal no that's a man who's the guy david bowie he was married to

06:19:04.420 you guys know david bowie yeah but we're from different decades we don't know his wife

06:19:08.420 what's missy you she's beautiful holding you to that uh okay um naomi campbell is beautiful

06:19:19.940 i'm trying to think the other ones that are

06:19:22.980 but i mean like i there's plenty of black women who i can think of

06:19:27.060 and you show a black a really attractive black woman an ugly white woman to a white person they're

06:19:31.460 like yeah the black person's more attractive yeah but a super racist white guy they won't say that i

06:19:36.420 i think even a racist white guy i i grew up unfortunately around a lot of racists and

06:19:42.340 no i mean we can find some really unremarkable white people and like some really attractive

06:19:47.300 black people so i mean yeah i agree with that i don't know anyways uh let's was there something

06:19:53.300 else we had to react to or um oh we have a chat here lactose the intolerant a key characteristic

06:19:58.820 of an apex predator is having no natural predators of their own

06:20:01.940 humans can't be apex predators for other humans because that would violate this key characteristic

06:20:07.460 proving they are not an apex predator please use my money to buy dictionary

06:20:11.780 but it could work for women to men it could work for men hunt women so men can't be men's apex

06:20:17.380 predator but men can be women yeah but in nature you're typically talking about uh interspecies

06:20:23.460 yeah and right here i'm talking about gender interspecies predation yeah yeah but

06:20:32.100 um criminality is like abnormal adverse psychological wait hold on what the

06:20:38.180 fuck am i what kind of word salad am i about to say i'm uh what am i about to say here

06:20:43.540 i don't think you can frame the dynamics between men and women through the lens of predation i you

06:20:53.940 just can't brian you gotta start watching dateline

06:21:01.060 everybody's like he was the best guy ever and they were so in love and then

06:21:05.940 i don't know she ended up in a in the woods in a freezer yeah in a freezer i'm just saying look i

06:21:12.420 think it's uh there's a little bit of uh you guys are getting very comfortable with the man

06:21:16.660 hating okay i don't hate men i love men and i can tell you what i love about men

06:21:23.220 the anti-male rhetoric a little uh not anti-male a little it's a bit much

06:21:28.900 just cautious a bit much this girl over here i don't know if it was you know the one child

06:21:33.540 policy in china that got a little upset i got it what who said that i have to say hey look there's

06:21:39.460 a lot of misogyny in china this is true they

06:21:43.380 fucking aborted the baby girls anyways and now there's less because there's too many men and

06:21:50.260 there's like very few women all right would you date um what's his name xi jinping

06:22:00.420 how do you say the leader's xi jinping sorry xi jinping the president yeah the president he's a

06:22:06.260 taken man no if he was single probably not i don't do you think like those top top like ccp

06:22:12.980 people do you think they they like fuck prostitutes yes like i feel like well it's a very pretty

06:22:19.940 like politicians politicians wait what don't don't wait oh how did you get your phone back

06:22:25.700 hey yeah i was wondering she's beautiful okay naomi campbell maybe i don't know who was that amon

06:22:32.580 she's beautiful oh come on come on take the phone for listening oh come on come on we'll just hide

06:22:40.500 it come on all right whatever um wait what what were we talking about if i would date the leader of

06:22:47.300 do we think politicians get hookers his daughter is my age that would be bizarre would you date his

06:22:54.740 son and maybe the rest of it i don't know he doesn't have a son oh shit but i mean if if he had

06:23:00.660 a child would you have dated young joseph stalin that let's open up that i don't think so

06:23:06.500 show a picture of him let's see what he looks like hey can you google young joseph stalin he's

06:23:11.700 actually before the crimes are out he's a fucking star oh he's hot then yeah like i feel like i

06:23:16.900 remember him being hot yeah but he also murdered like millions yeah that's why i said yeah like

06:23:21.620 but like he was he was he had a bad day but was it he was fine kidding kidding what do you guys

06:23:30.180 he's cute he was fine though what are you doing click click one of the first photos do i know what

06:23:35.620 he's gonna become yeah like what information do you have scary that's how come you don't go for looks

06:23:42.020 you just don't know what you're gonna do there are plenty of ugly serial killers too though

06:23:47.060 would you date him i would definitely give him a chance for one date so i could get to know him

06:23:53.940 what did he do murdered like 40 million people he was the um leader of russia he was crazy

06:24:01.860 yeah that whole thing yeah some casual just casual genocide we'll touch a genocide who here would date

06:24:08.820 him though he seems are we talking before like do we know anything young so he's like probably

06:24:14.740 revolution i don't know how old he was he hasn't heard anybody there yet i'm just gonna see like

06:24:20.020 one day you know get to know him share some food if i just saw a guy that looked like that yeah so

06:24:25.220 give him a chance should we do uh who else should we do we can't every dommer is this like kind of

06:24:31.860 should we do maoze dong oh my goodness like young maoze dong he was a baby yeah young maoze

06:24:37.300 dong i don't know who he should be do you even know how to spell maoze dong we don't know these people

06:24:43.060 i bet mary doesn't even know how to spell that she's like is that a chinese restaurant

06:24:48.340 all right nick can do it put the get the man in there get the man in did you spell it maoze dong

06:24:58.340 bro no

06:25:03.700 would you guys date young mao chairman mao we haven't seen what he looks like yeah i'm trying

06:25:09.540 to get a come on we can let nick in there he's a he's a faster typer is he what's your words per minute

06:25:18.900 all right get that pulled up

06:25:22.980 can we get a scroll down

06:25:27.220 scroll down he was also unfortunately handsome scroll down they tend to be don't they they're

06:25:36.100 uh that's old mao no hitler was ugly

06:25:39.860 okay i thought ugliness was i mean he wasn't a bad looking guy

06:25:43.460 hitler young hitler he was he was weird looking young no he looked weird i thought beauty was in

06:25:49.220 the eye of um subjective in my eyes it was weird yeah in my eyes hitler was weird as well can we do

06:25:56.260 like should we do benito mussolini or let's do um yeah let's do benito mussolini young benito

06:26:05.060 what did this guy do other than hitler i didn't know any of them uh benito mussolini was an italian

06:26:09.700 fascist during world war ii you know what it kind of looks like the young version of one of you

06:26:15.220 doesn't it remember the young the male i think me i'm italian so that does make sense

06:26:20.820 hey look at his hat what the he looks kind of like my brother i should get a hat like that and

06:26:25.140 just like approach chicks and be like what's up go back up show them the hat that hat you see that

06:26:32.020 how with the feathers i would get so much pussy that's with that hat y'all would be all over me

06:26:39.940 if i click that you'd have to change the name of the show oh god wait he's doing the fucking

06:26:46.580 let's get that out of there maybe change it all right so anyways um let's move on to some of the

06:26:52.180 notes uh here we're gonna do some questionnaire shit or no you know what i need to talk to you

06:26:56.500 about the whole catholic stuff me oh yeah all right so uh you're catholic i'm catholic and you're also

06:27:04.100 uh by bisexual i am and you're also a leftist yes i am all right that's interesting and um so you're

06:27:12.900 oh and you're pro pro choice okay are you still do you still consider yourself a catholic yes i do

06:27:18.900 do you go to church yes how often do you go to church i try to do it every sunday it doesn't

06:27:24.100 always happen but um and you are aware that uh the catholic church has taken a stance against some

06:27:33.300 of those things position on abortion yes okay how do you i guess reconcile that i don't believe that

06:27:40.260 life begins at conception i believe that it begins at consciousness uh but so okay i'm not an expert in

06:27:46.340 catholicism but don't you have to defer a little bit to the uh what the church is like you're just

06:27:53.860 can you ignore the church as a catholic not on every stance but i mean i believe in the fundamentals

06:27:58.900 of the catholic church like the trinity or yeah i believe in the trinity i believe in everything that

06:28:04.020 we say in the apostles creed okay so do you believe in the bible i've so here's my take on the bible uh

06:28:11.700 so the bible was originally written in aramaic and then it was translated from aramaic and partially

06:28:18.980 hebrew to greek and when it was translated from those languages to greek the translation was awful

06:28:24.980 it's not even close like the word for virgin that they used uh for mary does not actually translate

06:28:32.500 to virgin it meant young girl so with with so many errors like that i can't completely defer to the bible

06:28:41.060 i have to think of the bible more as like an allegory or the best guess because i don't speak

06:28:46.420 aramaic um so i can't read the original but the translations have been proven time and time again

06:28:53.540 to be wildly accurate inaccurate and then i mean the king james bible has redacted so much out of it

06:29:00.420 there are books that we don't have access to okay well are there are there um what's it called um

06:29:07.140 um what i mean is that the official position of the catholic uh faith that that the bible is

06:29:19.220 no they take the bible as the word of god but okay so why do you differ from the official position sure

06:29:24.660 maybe the original one was but now that it's been translated and mistranslated and redacted and changed

06:29:30.340 and put in the hands of people who are using religion to control the masses and political power

06:29:36.820 then yeah all right now i think the bible has been a bit bastardized until we have it today

06:29:42.740 okay so you think the for example like the new pope and all previous popes were wrong on the

06:29:47.940 abortion topic i disagree with them you think they're wrong though yeah so just to be and these are you

06:29:55.220 you know typically these are people who are quite expert i i would hope the pope is an expert in pope is

06:30:03.380 also a monarch he's still a political figure right but so i i guess my confusion stands uh if all these

06:30:10.660 theologians that are involved in the catholic church who've spent their life dedicated to the

06:30:15.540 studying of the faith the bible etc they're wrong on this issue yeah i i believe that they are they're

06:30:23.380 wrong i believe that they are okay i also believe that they were wrong to shuffle around priests and

06:30:28.020 hide essay back through all out history but i don't think that there's any sort of biblical prescription

06:30:34.500 this would be like a a uh something related to the what humans are doing not something as prescribed by

06:30:42.420 the faith but again my understanding like this would be like something wrong that they are specifically

06:30:49.220 doing well the bible doesn't outright say you can't have an abortion well i'm not a theological

06:30:55.940 it didn't exist back then i'm not a the did it i mean there weren't there ways that women could

06:31:02.180 even historically or in archaic times yeah eventually we got there but there wasn't like

06:31:08.260 surefire abortion yeah or you know whatever concoctions um to try attempt to induce

06:31:14.740 like a shoddy abortion or something yeah right uh i i assume back then it would also that would

06:31:20.020 also be frowned upon right i don't know if it was frowned upon back then okay just societally or

06:31:25.940 otherwise you but as at least as it relates to the faith um it seems a bit by the way that was a bit

06:31:32.420 of a red herring like okay well the church did this and that's bad i agree with you what they did was

06:31:36.660 bad yeah um i'm not like a catholic apologist i'm not catholic i'm not even christian by the way

06:31:42.020 um although i i do want to say i do see massive amounts of value in christianity even from an

06:31:50.100 agnostic perspective i have very pro-christian sentiments um but uh but yeah so um so i'm just

06:31:59.460 kind of from an outsider's perspective looking into this but knowing that the catholics position on

06:32:06.740 this the pope's position on this reaffirmed the church's opposition to abortion i just i that's

06:32:12.420 weird to me like how do you reconcile being a catholic but being pro-choice because the popes

06:32:20.100 have changed their opinions throughout the years on not on pro-choice or pro-life not on this particular

06:32:25.620 topic but on other topics the interpretation of certain things the translation of things has changed

06:32:30.500 over the years because of that i think that man's interpretation i don't know they have

06:32:35.780 oh sure they have like and that's it's actually usually quite a big swing when we go from one pope

06:32:40.500 to the next one will be super conservative and then it'll swing to a super liberal and then it'll swing

06:32:44.980 back right now it actually was like kind of a half step we went from super liberal to like a little bit

06:32:49.700 more moderate but not crazy conservative like they were expecting it to um but yeah because of that

06:32:55.620 like you can now technically be a catholic and get your divorce approved you can be catholic and

06:33:02.020 now technically marry a jew you can get that approved by a bishop so when i see things like that i'm

06:33:06.820 like okay so some of this is just men trying to interpret the word of god to their the best of their

06:33:13.540 abilities and sometimes that's done so because they're trying to control other people because

06:33:18.340 they're trying to gain political favor or whatever um and again i don't speak the original

06:33:23.060 aramaic that the bible was written in but still it was written by man so i put my faith in that a

06:33:28.340 little bit looser but yeah sure uh we have cherry thank you for the gifted 20 subs really appreciate

06:33:36.660 it thank you thank you thank you uh in your other notes you said you were kidnapped on a date once and

06:33:42.420 you had to steal a car to get home yes quick recap on that what happened uh yeah so it was a guy that i

06:33:48.820 went to high school with who was a bit older than me uh i was a freshman he when he was a senior this

06:33:53.300 was after i'd graduated high school we were both home for the summer we were flirting just via dms uh

06:34:00.260 and then we agreed upon a date he was going to take me out to uh just like a diner in my hometown

06:34:06.820 and he picked me up and it's the only time i've ever let a guy pick me up in his car i will never do

06:34:11.620 that again um but he came and he picked me up and his truck was like really shitty like seatbelts

06:34:18.420 didn't work and it just beeped like the seatbelts weren't on the whole time and he was like yeah

06:34:23.780 it's kind of like a shitty truck and we drove past the diner and i was like well where are we going

06:34:27.620 he's like oh well i was thinking we could go to like the woods and like look at the stars he was

06:34:32.660 like also like i have to leave the car running because if i shut it off it has to like be down for

06:34:37.860 like a certain amount of time and then i have to jump it a certain way because it like doesn't

06:34:41.380 it's a bad car and i was like okay so he's like yeah we'll just leave it running and then we'll

06:34:46.020 like go and look at the stars and i was like this is not great so he takes me to um close down nature

06:34:52.100 center in my hometown and i'm like all right i would like to leave now and he was like no let's get in

06:34:58.100 the bed of my truck let's get like look at the stars and so it did uh and we we kissed for a little

06:35:03.780 bit because i was like i need to figure out a way to get out of this and then he was like come on

06:35:07.620 like let's go down by the lake and as soon as he said that i was like that is where i will die uh

06:35:12.660 so no we're not doing that and then he was like no like come follow me down to the lake and i was

06:35:17.540 like okay so i got out of the bed of the truck he like led and then i turned ran got into the car

06:35:22.820 still had the keys and it's still running and i peeled the fuck out of there with his truck i went

06:35:27.780 probably a hundred miles an hour got off to the highway like the main little area in our hometown

06:35:33.780 just threw through the keys far like turn the car off through the keys out the window and like

06:35:38.900 started running down the highway and then i hitchhiked home and then i blocked him on everything

06:35:43.940 i think he lives in california now so john if you're watching

06:35:50.900 anyway no i'm good that's a crazy situation but i was 20 so

06:35:54.260 what's up oh shit he's got the shades the heart

06:36:03.300 those are definitely mine oh sorry i i no it was shade time i get it thank you thank you

06:36:10.340 i like to believe i have a good fashion taste are these from like the early 2000s or um honestly i got

06:36:16.100 them on i can't put them on my face because my lashes are too long so they're just accessories

06:36:24.500 i guess you can yes that's cute okay all right how did they look did they look good on me

06:36:29.860 they looked amazing uh okay you said you you think you we fundamentally disagree on those things

06:36:38.980 uh i'd say so yeah you say primarily conservative traditional uh you say like evangelical i'm not

06:36:47.140 christian but andrew andrew who's frequently on he's uh orthodox christian is that the one that can't

06:36:52.660 open the pickle jar uh and that is andrew wilson okay yeah yeah cool that's the one that i was

06:37:03.140 thinking of when i saw that hold on he did open it eventually no that one did the hot one you have

06:37:07.940 back here opened up the pickle jar well there was the pickle jars and the olive jar so okay i didn't

06:37:12.180 see the olive jar technically the pickle jar he got okay no pickle jar i think was him no the olive

06:37:17.860 jar he struggled with but the pickle jar he got it okay and just to be clear it was greased

06:37:23.620 it got greased okay well then don't judge the lady for not being able to open it look all i all i can

06:37:29.700 say is andrew's a very strong man he's got a firm handshake but he is built like a praying mantis

06:37:35.700 hold on just to be clear the the the olive jars okay there's a technique to opening them and if you

06:37:42.500 don't know the technique you're gonna struggle i don't know i feel like chair one could open up an olive

06:37:48.980 jar well she's also sure steroids can we stop talking about the fact that i did steroids i'm just

06:37:58.020 jack you are jack i just go to germany eat healthy yeah uh we are going to do hold on oh okay so uh

06:38:07.940 i guess what do we disagree with you said you're a very live and let live leftist yeah um you said we

06:38:15.300 disagree entirely on gender roles and values yeah you said you're a well-educated well-traveled woman

06:38:20.420 working in two near terribly male-dominated industries by the way men here are well-traveled

06:38:26.660 and here had sex with a bunch of men in different areas but just fyi well they're wrong about that

06:38:32.500 but all right just in general okay i didn't think that about you you kind of give off like it's

06:38:37.540 fine i've been to 31 countries i would consider that well-traveled that's really cool just saying

06:38:42.900 that's what that's what our primitive male brains here yeah but when you assume traveled a lot um

06:38:50.260 you said you don't believe that there is a biological determination as to who should be dominant or

06:38:55.060 submissive in relationships between the genders you don't believe romantic relationships need to have

06:38:59.380 a dominant and submissive dynamic uh so what do you mean by that we can have a back and forth

06:39:04.340 given that i am bisexual and like i'm interested in women as well i don't feel that i have like

06:39:09.700 necessarily a biological drive that makes me have to go towards men i certainly i love men and i

06:39:16.020 love them for very specific reasons and i would go towards a relationship with them wanting those things

06:39:21.140 but yeah i'm not are you okay just the right scoot your shirt oh my nipples are all the way here

06:39:31.860 okay i don't know it won't pop out i don't know she's got a lot of side

06:39:35.460 female anatomy apparently um just just looking out for you um okay so you're bisexual

06:39:40.580 so you don't believe and what about uh if we move away the language from dominant and submissive

06:39:46.660 what about leader follower i would say the same thing yeah i don't think that a man necessarily

06:39:52.980 has to be even the more masculine one in the relationship if you want to have like the

06:39:56.820 traditional masculine and feminine like balancing act dynamic maybe the woman's a little bit more

06:40:01.940 masculine and the man's a little bit more feminine and that works for them so do you go 50 50 on dates

06:40:09.780 i haven't been on a date in a long time and my my last relationship made way more than i did so

06:40:15.620 oh so so it wasn't he always went ahead and paid just because financially it made the most sense

06:40:24.500 but hold on it seems a bit he's a really high earner seems a bit dominant of him and

06:40:31.220 traditional for him to pay for the dates i would say he was probably the more dominant one in our

06:40:36.580 specific relationship you're hold on just to be clear your five-year relationship your longest

06:40:42.100 relationship your most recent relationship yes you say that you don't believe romantic relationships

06:40:48.740 need to have dominant submissive dynamic yet yeah i don't think inherently that they do

06:40:54.340 i don't think that you can just paint it with a broad brush i would say that he was

06:40:58.820 more the leader in in the financial aspect for sure in our relationship but

06:41:03.220 i don't think that that's something that

06:41:05.620 has to be a universal truth for all heterosexual relationships well yeah sure i can envision a

06:41:10.420 relationship where the woman is more dominant than the man and those relationships do exist

06:41:16.100 but you seem to have disagreements on what then do you think it's on it's not the natural order of

06:41:25.540 things where's your disagreement i've seen when i've seen clips of this show it has been argued that

06:41:32.500 the man has to biologically lead the woman like he has to and he won't feel fulfilled if he doesn't

06:41:39.220 have that if he can't be the provider then he won't feel fulfilled which is probably true for some guys

06:41:44.180 but certainly not for all of them uh well i would actually say that the issue is less with them the

06:41:50.580 men in that situation and more with the women okay yeah i'm sure that's probably true for some of them

06:41:55.780 i think men probably if you ask them they would actually be okay forsaking some of their traditional

06:42:01.620 gender roles so long as the women were okay with it i think it happens to be the case that women are

06:42:07.460 they don't want men to forsake their traditional gender roles maybe i don't know so the ones for

06:42:15.140 example and these are the ones that typically place a burden on men and make life a little bit

06:42:21.540 easier for women so paying for first dates or having the almost exclusive burden of initiative

06:42:30.820 so and when i say initiative i mean uh making the first approach carrying the conversation

06:42:37.780 asking for the number following up texting setting up the date planning the date paying for the date

06:42:43.700 moving things forward oh is she down to move things forward no okay rinse and repeat for second date

06:42:49.300 third date move things forward physically go for the first kiss move things towards sex

06:42:52.980 these are all things that typically fall on the men women love that men keep that shit they love that

06:43:00.820 the initiative and the burden there continues to fall on men i don't i mean i don't think that's a

06:43:06.580 universal truth for all women i didn't say for all women yeah i and i don't even know that it's the

06:43:11.460 majority but i think it's the majority okay then maybe it is well i mean so you think you think the

06:43:18.820 majority of women initiate like initiate no i'm saying i don't know although i do know quite a few

06:43:24.740 women who have initiated their relationships who have initiated yeah do they initiate to the same

06:43:31.220 degree that men initiate in in their particular relationship they were the ones that initiated

06:43:37.860 initiate what sex no well all all the different breakdowns of when initiation would occur

06:43:44.260 yeah i've met some pretty overzealous women who are who are like i'm just gonna get this going

06:43:50.340 and a lot of guys drag their feet so sometimes yeah it will be women that initiate these conversations

06:43:54.820 you're arguing that's the exception to the rule overwhelmingly men have to initiate sure okay

06:44:03.460 i'm not saying that that's like an inherent truth that works for everybody that was my whole point is that

06:44:08.020 i don't think we live in this rigid thing where it's like that is the norm and that's what has to happen

06:44:12.500 okay let me ask you a question do you think an average woman can never initiate anything in

06:44:18.100 her entire life and still get a man not not not possibility probability initiate anything in her

06:44:28.580 entire life yes so when it comes to dating okay an average looking woman need she make take steps of

06:44:37.220 initiative to get a boyfriend i think she would have to at least take the initiative of putting

06:44:42.260 herself out there in some capacity making her like either going on dating apps or going out

06:44:47.380 somewhere with the intention of meeting someone okay what else does she have any other burdens or

06:44:52.820 responsibilities i think that there's probably somebody that would take her up on her not bearing

06:44:58.820 any responsibility you said is it possible yeah i think it's possible no but i'm asking yes i it is

06:45:05.700 possible but is it probable no she doesn't take any initiative in any capacity sorry just to be clear

06:45:15.060 no i don't know how else to explain this um sorry i did hit two tylen all back there earlier so

06:45:24.340 okay if you compare an average man to an average woman sure what are the differences

06:45:31.140 in terms of the initiative that each has to take to get to where they want to go then yeah probably

06:45:38.820 men would have to put in more so here's how i would paint it okay i think maybe it's not the

06:45:44.500 case for all women but most women can get away with just showing up to the club and men will come up to

06:45:50.100 you as a man if you go to the club and you just do what women do which is not do anything really

06:46:00.820 no girls are coming to talk to you i've been to the club countless times and you saw one girl no

06:46:06.660 i'm saying i've gone to i've gone out with my average looking friends and i've never seen some of

06:46:10.980 them get approached you always argue to oh okay sure there's women who go out to bars and on a

06:46:16.740 specific night they never get approached they might even be really good looking they don't get

06:46:21.060 approached i'm not even going to dispute that but if you take an average looking girl or let's just

06:46:27.140 say it's like a you know i don't know maybe slightly above average put her in a bar whatever

06:46:33.060 she's gonna there's a much higher likelihood that she'll be approached than the her looks equivalent

06:46:38.340 guy you're giving me a hypothetical and going isn't this anecdote probably what happens and

06:46:45.700 then i give you anecdotes from my real life and you're like don't do that okay yeah and

06:46:50.660 you're hypothetical probably what do you mean in my hypothesis okay i imagine an average woman can

06:46:56.820 just go out how many times have you been to bars or clubs a lot more than i can put a figure on you're

06:47:04.260 telling me that there's it's 50 50 women approaching men men approaching women it's just 50 50 i've approached

06:47:12.340 more men than men have approached me at bars and clubs so i'm not paying attention to other

06:47:17.380 chicks i find that that's just the reality i mean you can doubt it but i'm giving you my

06:47:24.900 lived experience how many men have you approached a lot more than i can put a number to congratulations

06:47:30.900 you're the outlier what about all the other women i'm not looking at what other bitches are doing

06:47:35.380 unless i'm trying to you what the fuck i'm not looking at what other women are doing what do you

06:47:39.860 think other people are doing i don't know i don't i'm not trying to pretend that i know the answer

06:47:45.780 to that i'll make it super easy you have a public instagram yes okay have you ever slid into somebody's

06:47:51.220 dms yes how many times at least like five okay how many men have slid into your dms a lot okay there's

06:47:59.780 an asymmetry in the frequency with which you're dming men versus how many men are how many men you're

06:48:06.180 dming versus how many men are dming you sure okay i'm sure i could ask all the women here at the table

06:48:11.540 they would probably say there's massive asymmetry between how many men they've dm'd versus how many

06:48:16.980 men have dm'd them yes okay this would indicate that there is some asymmetry when it comes to initiative between the

06:48:23.700 sexes sure and i think that this equally applies to more organic situations whether it's at a bar a club

06:48:30.980 or a party men are more likely to take initiative in these environments also and more broadly speaking

06:48:36.500 in all other romantic contexts men are going to make the first move okay here we can do it like

06:48:41.380 this i can also ask about first kiss who initiates the first kiss the men or the women yes i agree

06:48:45.620 sometimes women go for the first kiss first i'd say overwhelmingly men are initiating first kisses

06:48:52.580 and all other steps of initiative too i haven't asked i haven't taken a poll

06:48:57.220 how about you of all the times you've had a first kiss was it you who was like

06:49:03.060 i mean in all of my experiences with first kisses we kind of were moving in at the same time you lock

06:49:08.180 eyes and you're like going in is that not how you do what are you just ladies sitting here and you just

06:49:13.460 kind of is that what your first kiss is like because for me it's usually you're making eyes and then you

06:49:18.420 kind of do a smile and then you go in i feel like this is a bit of a convenient thing for women to do but

06:49:23.620 like i think most guys thought processes as the guy when you're going for the kiss i agree that

06:49:31.780 sometimes it can be like a wow this is really the moment but i feel like the guys just kind of

06:49:38.660 fucking go for it and uh it's overwhelmingly the guy that's going for it and maybe you and in your

06:49:45.460 your woman brain you're like oh i also participated in making the kiss happen when it was really the

06:49:52.660 guy who initiated the kiss are you be honest with me brian are you just going in without the whole

06:49:59.540 like eye contact and smile before you go in for the kiss what are you talking about i'm saying at my

06:50:07.540 experience when it comes to a first kiss you like lock eyes and you smile in a certain way where you're

06:50:12.100 like all right we're gonna go in for a kiss now and then you guys go in for a kiss so i'm not i've had

06:50:18.020 guys just kind of go for it in the middle of talking about the roman empire and then i just

06:50:23.380 fucking go for it like i'm not doing that i'm definitely i'm not doing that shit but it's like

06:50:29.620 there is the moment there is the lull in the conversation and if i didn't go first she's not

06:50:36.740 coming first is she not initiating anything like with her body language to indicate that she would

06:50:41.620 like you to kiss her hold on now you're you're goalpost shifting here let's assume that the body

06:50:46.260 language is there and she wants to fuck me with an urgency great but fantastic but somebody has to

06:50:54.260 make the first move somebody so you're talking the act of physically leaning in you yeah that's the

06:50:59.620 initiative i would say that some initiative too is like if she's getting closer to you if she's

06:51:04.020 snuggling up you don't think that that's initiative for physical contact the one who's initiating that

06:51:08.180 also is she back in a way no okay well then she's into that shit and that's great you're just a little

06:51:14.980 bit overzealous at that point maybe don't do all of it let her cuddle in oh my god bro you you say

06:51:20.980 that but i'm maybe it's because you're a bit more aggressive with your sexual pursuits or whatever

06:51:25.780 but i'm telling you if guys were waiting if guys were just waiting around for women to make the move

06:51:32.020 the women wouldn't make the move wait around brian let the next lady surprise you i'm literally telling

06:51:38.980 you if a guy is being passive if he's not proactively trying to move things forward look

06:51:45.060 there are situations where girls will do that i'm not denying it but if guys are being passive trust me

06:51:52.980 it's going to be to the girl's just going to get so frustrated she either loses interest or it'll be

06:51:58.180 the fucking 10th date and she's like pussy why have you not tried to kiss me yet yeah it's this idea that

06:52:04.340 oh the guy can it's equal it's uh they're both doing at the same time no the guy has to make that

06:52:11.060 initial it's why it's called initiative he has to make the initial move all right all right i'll take

06:52:17.060 your word for it i know you're all over the dudes that you deal with okay you're all over them boom

06:52:22.180 boom boom i like what i like that's fine but maybe you're more sexually aggressive and i'm telling you

06:52:27.940 most women don't move like that all right i'll take your word for it you've lived as a man and i

06:52:33.540 haven't so even so okay i'll give you i'll give you my own anecdotes and you'll be like well i have

06:52:38.020 different anecdotes even women who are like insanely into me uh-huh insanely right they

06:52:44.660 fucking love me right no but i'll give you the context so you think i'm not just

06:52:48.740 fucking gassing you up these are women these are women uh this is like back in uh i'll say it was

06:52:54.580 two three years ago early on when i started the podcast 2023 uh i had a couple ladies who uh

06:53:03.140 you know they've reached out to me right okay they reach out to me so they've already shown

06:53:06.500 initiative okay reach out to me they flew from across the country on their own dime to come and see me

06:53:12.820 okay i'm still having to move things forward uh in that way they're not going to make the first

06:53:20.500 move i don't know if it's because they're a bit shy whatever they don't want to be perceived a

06:53:25.220 certain way i still have to make the move i don't know flying across the country brian that's that

06:53:29.620 sounds like she made the first move that's a pretty big no that is no i'm not saying no the fact that

06:53:35.460 they contacted me first the fact that they flew to come and see me that's initiative okay but when it

06:53:39.860 comes to like specific steps of initiative right a lot of it's still going to fall on the guy okay

06:53:45.220 okay but do you think that's inherently a bad thing not necessarily but if we're having a

06:53:51.620 conversation about oh wait hold on uh sorry you just got your microphone muted uh mute chair three

06:54:01.460 all right all right you're muted for uh what is it is it 10 minutes what's the uh i i forgot it's no

06:54:07.060 that rules dude 500 to make me shut up give it to me directly i'll never speak again if you want to

06:54:16.900 kick her off it's a uh it's uh 0.2 bitcoin that's a lot um what is it 10 minutes you gotta mute the

06:54:28.100 microphone for 10 minutes all right microphone muted i'll move on to somebody else then uh let's see here

06:54:34.900 okay blah blah blah we have maddie may oh we're back you said uh you may okay actually i don't know

06:54:43.380 if there's really your biggest controversy okay we did that you disagree with the show it's quite a

06:54:48.580 bit but not really not not as much as i thought yeah we're homies yeah we're buds you're my caucasian

06:54:53.700 um what you're my caucasian okay you know how yeah i i get where you're going with you know where i'm

06:54:59.940 yeah okay yeah see you're my caucasian see i got it all right mandy uh let's see you describe

06:55:06.020 yourself as your favorite tattooed muscle mommy you have a scorpion on your stomach oh i wanted to

06:55:10.500 ask what is a red flag tattoo you guys think there's like a red flag tattoo that a guy could have

06:55:19.780 whole panel any anybody on the panel can maybe like a swastika yeah jesus thinking okay how about like

06:55:26.980 something why why i mean yeah she's right but a broken cigarette a broken cigarette they're always

06:55:34.500 fuck boys which is that a common that's a common tattoo it was i've dealt with it a few times yeah

06:55:41.060 huh interesting like the teardrops too from like oh yeah like you've killed somebody like

06:55:46.820 what about something that's not like super obviously a red flag though but is a red flag

06:55:51.940 a picture a picture of another chick's face okay sure yeah yeah that's fair that's fair or like

06:55:58.660 somebody's name like an ex-wife's name yeah

06:56:05.460 nice

06:56:08.900 anybody who has tattoos here show of hands oh wow oh everybody but me i don't have any tattoos

06:56:16.420 cherry cream says that flex cherry one canadian oh this is your boyfriend or something

06:56:23.300 my boy he's canadian it's a canadian person my boyfriend i don't have a boyfriend okay if you say

06:56:29.060 so i don't have a boyfriend i haven't talked to a dude for a very long time how long you've been

06:56:32.500 celibate well i have well before that's like a couple months ago it was like two years and then

06:56:38.100 i'm usually celibate in my life to be honest i don't have that much sex okay cool uh all right

06:56:46.100 i gave up you said you're a stripper only fans girl and you wrote well we already talked about

06:56:51.940 you said this shit sucks yeah you wanted to talk about how negative and r slurred it is

06:56:57.780 but we already talked about that i guess uh okay you stripping for seven years bought a bunch of

06:57:04.100 properties sober have you done any escorting yeah anybody here done escorting

06:57:09.540 nobody escorting no sugar baby pay pigs pay pigs you got some pay pigs look at you holly holly's got

06:57:21.700 some holly's got some okay uh you wrote on one of your instagram posts it's like a caption rejecting

06:57:30.980 a guy because you have a boyfriend is like rejecting money because you have a job

06:57:34.580 yeah i did write that it's a rage bait i don't actually believe it oh it didn't even get that

06:57:42.580 no i actually don't i actually don't really think that all right marcelina is that how you say your

06:57:49.300 name marcelina marcelina you said you oh uh tell us about the nose ring you have the septum piercing

06:57:56.580 yeah um i just like it i don't know like i've always been made fun of for my nose or told i need a

06:58:01.700 nose job but i feel like for me it's like turn your makeup that was fun yeah no for me it's like

06:58:09.220 makeup i also like that i could just hide it so and there's you ever had any guys say they don't

06:58:14.580 like it oh yeah but i've also had guys that say they love it yeah no i've had guys that really come

06:58:18.820 up to me be like we'd be prettier without it i'm like okay but i like it i don't know you said you

06:58:23.380 dated somebody who turned out to be nothing like who you thought he was red flags oh my god he was

06:58:28.500 dangerous yeah i've had to file two uh restraining orders against my exes uh that one the one i was

06:58:36.660 talking about i don't know how much i want to disclose but um i oh god i was 19 he was 10 years

06:58:43.460 older than me and um i let a lot of shit slide but um there was just a point where i'm like i hate saying

06:58:50.980 the word ick but like there was just enough like i told him what i wasn't like happy and like what was

06:58:55.860 bothering me but whatever i was like hey like we're breaking up like i'm done with you and he's

06:59:00.340 like no no we're not i'm like what do you mean like we're done we're done and um i tried initiating it i

06:59:07.140 did and um he just wouldn't like leave me alone uh i got indirect proof of this somehow crazily like

06:59:16.180 hundreds of miles away but um he doused my car in acid he's yeah he's put a loaded gun to my head

06:59:22.340 head and um when i tried filing the restraining order he like had just he knew his way around the

06:59:29.140 law he's also like made fake photographer accounts to try and contact me and like claim like oh like

06:59:34.020 you know i'd love to shoot you whatever but um yeah uh i ended up finding out that he killed a girl

06:59:41.380 and i don't know if it was an accident because it looked like one but i know like how his mind worked

06:59:45.460 and he had his way around the law so yeah so that was one relationship that's serious yeah

06:59:54.900 now i i heard apparently i mean this was what uh six six years ago or five years ago and he was

07:00:02.100 harassing me for like five six months afterwards but um i just found out from a friend that apparently

07:00:07.380 he's in prison so so you're all good now i think we're out there but i don't know for why because

07:00:12.740 he got away with the the other whatever but yeah he destroyed my car and he yeah it was just whole

07:00:19.460 thing and then people were like oh like why would you date that i'm like i didn't know but also like

07:00:25.140 i don't know why um months later when i like was like you know i'm like i want to break up with him

07:00:30.100 i decided to like search up his name and um i don't know how much i want to say but um i found out

07:00:34.900 that there was like a flag like a government watch on him so i was like okay and i think he was

07:00:39.300 lying about a lot like finances and just he joked about um stabbing somebody when his like ex-wife

07:00:45.860 cheated on him and shit like that but i ignored a lot of red flags when i was 19 but i've learned

07:00:50.500 better so yeah yeah restraining orders yeah fun okay and uh you also wrote that you you say you

07:01:02.420 think communication is everything you should be able to fully share yourself with your partner

07:01:07.060 can't handle that they're not for you uh okay yeah do you have any hot takes or anything or any

07:01:14.260 hot takes oh man i think your partner should have full access to your phone i've told people that and

07:01:22.420 they think i'm crazy for it but i'm not saying like i don't want to like wake up and you're going through

07:01:26.980 my phone but i just this is i guess maybe from experience because i've had like an like boyfriend

07:01:32.740 or i guess x obviously um doubt me or whatever i'm like here's my phone like i don't know i never

07:01:37.620 want to make you feel like there's any doubt and like my life is your life kind of thing like you

07:01:43.300 shouldn't have to hide who you are at all because i'm like why are you with somebody you're not

07:01:46.820 comfortable with like you should never feel like there's any doubt so like how do i wear this like

07:01:52.340 if i'm dating somebody i never have a doubt like maybe it's like a whole karma thing but if i at the

07:01:56.740 end of the day if you're cheating i'm gonna find out you're cheating like i don't want to like sit

07:02:00.180 around dating somebody and have like doubt in the back of my mind like i want to live life and like

07:02:05.300 feel like i'm with somebody like that's a good person like i don't want to be stressing like i'm

07:02:10.260 with you because i love you and i think you're a good person and if you're not i'm going to find out

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07:03:41.940 and let's see what else uh okay moving on through the blasting through the notes here

07:03:47.380 i'm gonna try to get it done quick eleanor eleanor eleanor

07:03:54.260 are you gonna name can you name a daughter eleanor like the same name as you so it's like

07:04:01.300 like can i have an eleanor can you have a female junior i think so um i mean this probably isn't the best

07:04:08.260 place to cite it but they did it in king of the hill they had a junior a girl who was a junior

07:04:14.900 yeah man i've totally forgot like both of the characters names but the girl was named after

07:04:19.380 like her dad and they called her junior

07:04:22.740 kokomo thank you for the gifted five um you said that you've definitely went on a date where a guy

07:04:27.140 invited you out to eat and you're ready to pay for your own food because normally on first dates you'd like

07:04:31.060 to go 50 50. uh you insisted on paying and uh oh he insisted on paying and you weren't going to argue

07:04:39.620 it the bill comes he pays and you're getting your to-go boxes and then he takes your leftovers

07:04:46.820 and then he tells you that because he paid for the food he's going to take your leftovers yeah so um

07:04:52.820 yeah i was like i was 19 and um this was one of my co-workers when i was still a server

07:05:02.260 and like we ended up going to roscoe's and yeah like like i said normally me personally i definitely

07:05:10.100 think if it's a first date we should go 50 50 unless like the person who asked offers to pay you know i

07:05:18.340 don't think like if i'm a girl i'm gonna be like hey you should take me out on a date like i don't

07:05:22.020 expect you as a man to pay i would expect us to either go 50 50 or i'm gonna pay because i'm the

07:05:26.900 one who asked you but um he insisted on paying for the food and i'm like okay you know like if you

07:05:34.260 really want to pay it's cool like i can pay for myself though but he really said like no i'm a pay

07:05:39.220 like it's a gentleman thing to do and we get the bill and like he pays and then the lady brings it to go

07:05:46.100 boxes and then i'm about to put my food in my box and he's like no i'm gonna put it in my box

07:05:53.540 and after like mind you i didn't really understand what was going on i was like oh like are we saving

07:05:58.420 boxes like am i coming over later and then he was like yeah like i'm gonna eat this later like i'm

07:06:04.900 like this is gonna be dinner to me and when i was 19 i was definitely like not as outspoken and

07:06:12.420 confident as i am now so i kind of kind of just let it happen and then i told my bestie about it

07:06:20.500 like once i got home and i'm like hey so like this happened and like he took my leftovers is like

07:06:25.780 like is that weird and then she told me like no that is so valid that is definitely weird that is

07:06:32.260 definitely weird just kidding just kidding well don't don't let him pay if you guys are are eating

07:06:38.900 out okay he's gonna take your leftovers you said you would have been fine splitting right yeah but

07:06:42.500 then when he did did you keep seeing the guy though well at work when we worked together but we never

07:06:48.260 really date again no but it was a date yeah it was like a friend well i had a crush on him so i in my

07:06:56.340 in my brain it was a date in my brain that is weird i mean like that is kind of weird even even if he

07:07:03.780 paid for it usually whoever like you were touching the food eating like my like it's chicken so i bit

07:07:12.660 into it you know and he took my chicken even if i paid for somebody else i wouldn't want their leftovers

07:07:19.940 that's just i don't know yeah like that's crazy i thought that was so crazy i thought i was crazy

07:07:24.660 wait question but but did you lose interest or he both of you didn't no honestly that definitely

07:07:32.820 made me lose interest because you know i was already willing to pay for my my part wait but

07:07:39.060 you said you had a crush on him i did have a crush on him question did y'all kick it afterwards no

07:07:46.580 he uh dropped me back off to school i was in college okay okay just double check yeah i was 19 college

07:07:54.580 was if he had tried to be like hey let's go back to my place and kick it would you think like were you

07:08:01.140 dtf um honestly probably not because at that age oh no no at that age like mentally i wasn't really

07:08:10.100 like casually like dating or hooking up you had a crush on the guy you liked the guy yeah but i mean

07:08:16.020 when i was 19 like i wasn't like i was a little bit more hmm how do i say you like a virgin no i i

07:08:24.740 had a boyfriend in um in high school so like i wasn't a virgin i guess i was a little bit more like

07:08:31.220 more inexperienced yeah inexperienced but i guess like against like hooking up with people who i who

07:08:37.380 aren't my boyfriend but you have done that well i was like eventually yes yes eventually but when

07:08:45.300 i was 19 at that point of time i wasn't really willing to like hook up with him like that but

07:08:51.140 like okay let's say he took you on maybe let's say he took you on two or three more dates whatever

07:08:56.340 like you like the guy you you were dtf but he fumbled because of the leftover

07:09:05.860 maybe you know i i can't tell i can't really remember how 19 year old eleanor was thinking

07:09:11.060 but if you're asking 27 year old eleanor probably yeah was he still trying to hang out with you

07:09:16.900 afterwards or like sometimes after work but like you know we never really went anywhere i think the

07:09:25.540 most we ever really hung out it was like in group settings with all the other co-workers

07:09:31.540 was it the white guy no i think he was latino latino yeah his last name was um well i'm actually not

07:09:37.940 going to dox anyone but his last name was hispanic for sure it was definitely spanish no no no i know

07:09:43.940 for sure he wasn't they do but i know for sure that he wasn't filipino oh okay yeah yeah

07:09:51.060 yeah andrew tate answer i can look um can you check i'm very yeah yeah i'll look why not

07:09:57.620 for that nope sorry uh wait so okay uh wait do you date do you have a racial preference when it comes

07:10:09.060 to dating like asian guys white guys black guys any preference i wouldn't say i have a preference but i

07:10:15.060 guess based off statistics i've dated mostly like latino and black men right down what's that

07:10:24.260 nah i'm good um so wait hold on uh okay like do you not like asian guys because i've heard like asian

07:10:33.300 women say i don't like asian asian men they'd say that not me so straight i think for me um

07:10:40.980 um like when i was growing up i wasn't really hanging out with like the asians like that

07:10:47.380 most of my friends were either like from long beach yes okay most of my friends were like either like

07:10:52.660 latino or black and like don't get me wrong there are plenty of asians in long beach but you know like

07:10:57.060 i was cool with them i just like didn't really hang out with them like that you know kick it with the

07:11:00.980 asians yeah i guess not i guess not and like don't get me wrong there are plenty of fine asian men

07:11:07.620 but i guess like there's also like i just feel like maybe i'm also not asian men's type because

07:11:13.220 you know like i've definitely been to i'm serious i'm serious like i've been to like what is it this

07:11:18.420 like bar or this club in k-town and like you know like no like yep men don't approach me in the asian

07:11:26.340 clubs yeah so i feel like maybe i'm just not asian men's type you know and that's fine that's cool

07:11:32.580 what about you do you do you date asian guys or um historically not really just because i i grew

07:11:38.980 up in a predominantly white community and then in college i mostly dated um black and latino and

07:11:45.060 middle eastern men yeah um so i just i don't come across asian men that often and i also feel like i

07:11:51.060 might not be their type either interesting very interesting okay let me check my notes here i think

07:11:58.980 we almost oh we got okay we got emily and then we have there's like damn emily you sent me a

07:12:05.060 ton of notes holy shit this girl sent me a novel we might not be able to hit everything but i'll try

07:12:11.700 to get as much as possible uh is josie our dear friend josie is she unmuted this this gal all right

07:12:18.340 yay well if you send 500 more dollars i'll stop again who wants to read this uh let's have you maddie

07:12:27.460 i'm back on reading caucasian read oh fuck it fucking disappeared you got to do it quick go

07:12:32.900 i can't read it's gone oh shit do it again there you go can chair three so sorry please provide the

07:12:39.620 definition i don't even know how to say that of so so so so paul so lalapositalism i don't know

07:12:47.460 no i can not whatever that was i can't even i can't even say it

07:12:50.980 oh you picked a bad person to be the reader did i yeah yeah yeah what was the word actually

07:12:59.300 i don't know why it's i'm so sorry i'll pull it right back up give me one sec davon jackson what's

07:13:05.220 up man good to see you in the chat it's been a minute actually it hasn't been a minute you sent

07:13:09.540 something earlier all right hold on let's see if that fixes it my apologies all right uh can chair

07:13:16.180 three please provide the definition definition of solipsism also men have made the world so safe

07:13:22.420 that chair five genuinely believes men are women's only predator you cannot claim to love men and pick

07:13:27.860 bear boom roasted do you want to respond to that chair five oh goodness um i i do think two things can

07:13:35.620 be true at once and it might seem like a paradox but i do think that it's very possible to acknowledge

07:13:41.220 and love men as a general demographic while also acknowledging the reality of the harms and

07:13:47.460 atrocities that men have caused throughout history and uh contemporarily but of course not subjugating

07:13:54.260 every single individual man to that preconception um so yeah i think it's possible to be multifaceted

07:14:00.420 in your approach can you read that repeat that part about the harms and atrocities can you repeat

07:14:05.380 that sentence well yeah i think it's possible to acknowledge and recognize that

07:14:09.620 men have committed some harms and atrocities before but when you say men are you talking about a monolith

07:14:17.940 or are you talking about specific men or specific groups of men not groups of men but just the men

07:14:24.260 who have harmed because because i when we're using the when we're using language and we say men

07:14:31.380 when you say men it could apply to you might be meaning some men right or you might be meaning

07:14:38.020 men as a group right so i'm referring to the men who are harmful not all men because of course not all

07:14:45.300 men are predators not all men are dangerous okay but why frame it through the lens of men why not

07:14:52.260 because wouldn't you agree that it has more to do with the people who happen to have power well yes that

07:14:59.700 too but i'm just saying there was this thought experiment done that was very famous that was basically saying if

07:15:04.500 there are five snakes behind a door and one snake is poisonous but you don't know which one is you

07:15:09.300 know not saying that men are like that but because you don't necessarily know who's going to cause you

07:15:14.100 harm that's why women have this protection mechanism okay but but you're going to have to reconcile your

07:15:20.340 bigotry if i now frame this through yeah well you laugh but you're gonna have to now reconcile this if

07:15:26.580 i just reframe this through the lens of race so but that's not the same well i mean well except like

07:15:35.380 people who are racist people who are racist can make compelling arguments using your same line of

07:15:41.860 logic and argumentation and here's all you have to do okay women are allowed to have bigotry towards

07:15:48.820 men which is your position no because individual myself i have had bad experiences with men

07:15:56.580 people i know have had bad experiences with men there seems to be some data or statistics that

07:16:01.460 indicate that men are more likely to commit x crime or they're you know they're over represented

07:16:06.740 in this crime statistic if it is the case that that a racial group can prove another racial group

07:16:14.500 hits all of those things you have now created the pretext for acceptance of racism but brian race and

07:16:21.460 gender aren't the same because there aren't biological differences amongst races like there are

07:16:26.420 biological there absolutely are like genetic differences like skin color is dictated by

07:16:32.180 your genetics the phenotype is different but genetically all the races we are more similar

07:16:36.820 with other races than even like different types of penguins are genetically similar with one another

07:16:41.540 whereas obviously biologically men and women are very different in that men drastically overpower women

07:16:49.140 okay right so you can't although well except there are people who are and i actually this is probably

07:16:55.620 could go against tos but there are people who will who will say that there are differences when it

07:17:02.660 comes to uh let's say temperament i'm not saying that there are racists who might say that oh i don't

07:17:13.220 agree with that but you would say that there's a difference in temperament between men and women

07:17:17.460 not necessarily inherently but i think men are socialized too you don't think inherently i don't

07:17:23.380 agree with that no because in matriarchal societies men tend to be very peaceful which matriarchal

07:17:28.340 societies are you referencing oh gosh i mean there's some far-off tribes and there's matriarchal like

07:17:33.540 elephant herds and okay let's stick to humans okay what matriarchies there have um so i mean i can't

07:17:41.140 remember the name of the specific like indigenous community but there has been a matriarchal tribe

07:17:45.940 um where for some reason the men uh they were killed off not killed off something happened like a

07:17:52.740 natural disaster and there weren't any more men so the next generation were raised by all women and it

07:17:56.980 was extremely peaceful and wait wait hold on it's a panama panamanian tribe they still exist today great

07:18:04.020 okay we're looking at like some 200 person tribe in south american rainforest or something no or sorry

07:18:12.500 central american excuse me whatever in the thousands huh they're in there it's not just a couple hundred

07:18:18.580 people they're a thriving native community i've been okay what's the population of this thriving native

07:18:24.580 community it's in the thousands i don't know the exact figure okay but so um i guess i don't know it's just

07:18:31.700 like what if these tribes if a specific tribe was uh had some sort of uh there was like an atrocity

07:18:40.600 that they were committing what if there was an atrocity they committed like a native tribe like are we

07:18:48.040 going to look to actions of some far away native tribe and say okay this is how we're going to set up

07:18:55.040 society because maybe it works for this tribe wait that question doesn't follow you're saying there's

07:19:01.580 an atrocity but then we're going to structure our society just like that tribe after the atrocity

07:19:06.300 was committed well from our perspective so from okay there's a tribe uh that it's a rite of passage

07:19:14.240 for the boys to perform acts on the male adults this is i'm not making this up this is actually a thing

07:19:21.420 the boys they want to perform that act on the adults it's like culturally ingrained it's how you become

07:19:28.600 like an adult how you become a male in the tribe uh from an outside perspective i would say that

07:19:34.680 uh yeah this is really harmful like this is bad right and i'm not saying that we need to structure

07:19:41.740 our society like this specific tribe that was simply an example to show that i don't think the

07:19:46.560 way that men men's temperament is exhibited excuse me is inherently natural or intrinsic but that

07:19:53.360 sometimes men are socialized to perhaps be a bit more aggressive or assertive than they naturally

07:19:58.400 well i think there's a there's a nature and a nurture component it's not just one or the other

07:20:03.100 no i agree with that totally okay so what is the what is the you dislike the current system i guess

07:20:08.980 what is the system of matriarchy and how would that manifest itself that you think would be more

07:20:14.900 conducive to a healthy society well i mean it would have been great to have a woman president but i just

07:20:19.680 think in general how would that make in what way would that be uh better by virtue of her being a

07:20:27.000 woman well i think it helps just to have a woman in leadership because women in general tend to have

07:20:32.160 more uh diplomacy skills tend to have just better cooperation skills in general and also often exhibit

07:20:38.220 yeah yeah definitely well if you look at like um the scandinavian countries like norway or finland and

07:20:44.780 a lot of these countries that do have um you know female uh leaders in charge that their people

07:20:50.720 tend to cooperate better their gdps are higher um overall the citizens tend to uh just be much

07:20:56.400 they're also like super norway's super homogenous and their previous male leadership set their country

07:21:03.240 up massively with the natural resources of this country like so new zealand then they whether they have

07:21:09.180 a sovereign fund or whatever uh that that has been very uh what's the term for it uh very fruitful for

07:21:17.340 its citizenry what were you saying new zealand then or mexico mexico's doing the best women are more

07:21:23.040 cooperative but i mean i've also heard anecdotes from women that when there's like a female boss they

07:21:28.620 fucking hate it well that can be true in a microcosm space like a corporate setting because

07:21:34.640 oftentimes women are taught from an early age to compete with one another um but i don't think

07:21:39.840 that can necessarily be generalized as a blanket statement for all governments do you think

07:21:44.380 competitive competition is something inherently male no you think women aren't competitive no i don't

07:21:51.120 think that i just think um from an early age sometimes women are taught to pit themselves

07:21:55.720 against other women or to see other women as competition can you say the same thing about men

07:22:00.740 and uh not in the same way but i do think men are you know socialized to be more competitive in

07:22:06.920 regards to athletics or physical prowess or um success and things of that nature okay cool

07:22:14.860 i'm i'm not so you're what was the thing you were saying before that women are more cooperative

07:22:21.980 well i think women tend to make more peaceful leaders well i mean they've done analysis of monarchs for

07:22:29.080 example and they found that queens were much more likely to wage war than kings how do you

07:22:33.360 reconcile that i mean i think i would need to be more educated about monarchies but i don't think

07:22:41.560 that can be applied to democratic societies like in modern times okay i mean the the thing is though

07:22:47.600 is if you were to take these specific examples that you gave what did you say finland and norway

07:22:55.100 new zealand to mexico okay new zealand isn't really i mean is new zealand currently involved

07:23:02.120 in any military conflicts like it's kind of a very isolated nation well i mean wouldn't you say

07:23:09.440 it tends to be better to not have a lot of yeah but do you think for example do you think it's

07:23:14.880 do you think it's easier to remain uh when it comes to warfare uh isolated or protected from warfare

07:23:22.440 when you're a small island nation in uh oceania did i say that oceania versus like you share

07:23:30.420 multiple borders in uh central or western europe well yeah i would agree with that okay cool yeah all

07:23:40.080 right i mean okay

07:23:42.340 i i i it's not really compelling um anything you've said there but that's okay i'm also not

07:23:52.540 a political debater i thought this was a dating show yeah but no in modern times anytime a woman

07:23:57.400 has been prime minister president or leader it tends to the country tends to seem see a lower crime rate

07:24:03.280 um a better gdp and uh it's just a better economy lower crime rate hold on but there are still

07:24:10.660 how how does that occur i don't know the mechanism by which it occurs i just know that that does seem

07:24:16.960 to uh go along with it where i've never heard that statistics mexico all of a sudden mexico is low

07:24:23.200 crime no it's low it's dropping since they've had a mexico's crime rate has been dropping

07:24:28.480 significantly since they elected their president run by gangsters the the woman that's leading it

07:24:34.660 right now is like panicked and hiding under her desk well she has a problem with cartels sure but

07:24:42.420 it's better than it has been previously is that why everyone's moving so you're saying they're not

07:24:48.260 in the mexico and it's a huge community of people that don't want to leave moving back then

07:24:54.100 there has to be a reason wait but when there's you're saying when there's more female uh involvement

07:25:01.940 or influence society is better is that that's your position oh my my position is that when women are

07:25:09.440 allowed more opportunities to obtain positions of leadership generally society tends to reap the

07:25:15.240 benefits for example when you see more women who become high earners typically women tend to contribute

07:25:21.140 more to charities and to give more money away and much of that could be because women are socialized

07:25:27.120 or taught to be more benevolent in general or to put other people first and be caretakers um so i mean

07:25:33.460 i haven't seen the data on women give more to charity or whatever um but i guess my question to you is um

07:25:43.860 if it is the case that female influence has this sort of

07:25:47.460 amazing trickle-down effect on society and when women have more influence that leads to better

07:25:55.480 societies has the single motherhood increased since the say 1930s 1940s 1950s a single motherhood

07:26:03.780 yeah so these were these would be family dynamics where boy boys and daughters are raised pretty much

07:26:13.620 entirely by women has the single motherhood rate increased or decreased what does that have to

07:26:20.100 do with who's leading the country hold on she's making a general statement about like women having

07:26:26.320 more influence in society not strictly just about in about uh positions of power i think we were talking

07:26:34.540 about positions of power we've been talking about a million things and we're all over the place

07:26:37.800 i'm just examining her worldview yeah okay but if you have a woman who's in a capitalist society who

07:26:45.040 now has to fill both roles of both parents who has to rear the children and who also has to earn to

07:26:49.740 support the family and she's doing so on a single income yes that is going to make things a bit more

07:26:54.440 difficult within the family dynamic and i don't think there's also single fathers and all the statistics

07:26:58.540 that we have when it comes to comparisons between single fathers and single mothers it seems like the

07:27:03.560 children fare way better when they're just with a single father than with that is because a single

07:27:07.740 father never doesn't have help going into that he has he has neighbors he has family he has other

07:27:13.920 people it's not baseless i've seen single fathers and they always have somebody they're willing to

07:27:18.480 help out but women are expected to child rear the entire brunt of it when they're a single mother

07:27:23.560 completely out of your ass i'm not you're pulling the oh okay so so men when they're single fathers

07:27:29.480 they have the community just surrounds them and they just get all the support and all the benefits

07:27:34.800 and all the privileges and these poor single mothers they're just nobody wants to help and

07:27:39.280 they just get laughed at and blah blah certainly some single mothers have familial support but not

07:27:43.800 all and it's but why okay why would so you're saying yes what's that men get praised like not praise

07:27:50.400 but like when they're single dads like they're looked at like wow you're such a good guy or whatever

07:27:54.200 but women it's like oh like what'd you do like you single mom like just men are like looked at it

07:27:59.900 as like a like do you think i mean i guess is society better now than it was i don't know 50 60 70

07:28:08.380 years ago in a lot of ways yes i think so the social cohesion social fabric is it better now i mean

07:28:15.720 i can't comment on every aspect of society what's that crimes down yeah and like um women have the

07:28:22.460 ability to you know make their own money now and is it crime has been falling well there's a lot of

07:28:31.520 factors related to crime i for example they put lead in the gasoline and they directly linked the

07:28:38.100 removal of lead from gasoline to uh lowering crime yeah but we've all got plastic in us i think crime

07:28:44.580 is done because of like cameras and science and the way that people get caught i don't think it has

07:28:48.840 anything to do with like you could be doing it has everything to do with technology it has nothing

07:28:52.500 to do with women yeah like you don't know that's why is crime actually down though i mean i'm i don't

07:28:56.840 even think it is they're rioting in la i mean seriously they're making it the media makes it bigger than

07:29:04.400 what it is though you just see things more now no it's crazy look i guess just my confusion here is

07:29:11.440 if it is the case that society functions better under a matriarchy and this would matriarchy would imply

07:29:18.140 not just like government rule but also within the familial structure there's no at no point in

07:29:25.640 history has there been more female influence than today when it comes to single motherhood so women

07:29:32.020 have the majority of influence in the household they make up the majority of teachers all the way from

07:29:37.620 kindergarten to 12th grade there's a predominance of women in education and as single mothers so how could

07:29:45.040 it possibly be you have you have boys and daughters who the majority of their life the the authority

07:29:52.700 figures in their life are women the moms and all the teachers it's not clear to me if uh society has

07:30:00.100 improved you don't think society has improved well it depends by what what metric it i think there's

07:30:06.840 way more uh quite a bit of polarity with what politically yeah sure politics just social

07:30:16.280 cohesion it's just that people can voice their opinions now more than they could back in the 50s

07:30:20.400 in the 50s your opinion only the people around you had to put up with that shit now everybody has to

07:30:25.420 listen to whatever's on twitter or instagram or anybody that has a camera phone can make themselves

07:30:29.720 that has degradated social cohesion yeah right i don't think that's women i think um speaking as

07:30:37.480 a person of color society has definitely gotten better it's gotten better like are you joking look

07:30:43.880 at the females every female became a fucking prostitute even eight years ago when i started

07:30:48.680 okay but like it's true every female in this generation they're literally using men in some way and

07:30:57.500 every female as soon as they turn 18 they turn into something only fans showing pictures and it's

07:31:03.040 just like how is that good we all are like that's why i don't agree with you it's because women like

07:31:08.700 need men and it's just like the way a society is going we all are so against each other and like

07:31:13.160 women are lost and then here we are like talking about like if a woman should rule anymore like we're

07:31:18.040 literally like full of weak people in this society no one wants to see reality we're sitting here

07:31:23.700 arguing that a fat ugly person is better looking than a skinny good looking person are we fucking

07:31:28.160 for real when you put woman in power that means you're putting someone that is naturally not

07:31:32.800 powerful and that means that that opened the delusion to society and now we're full of society

07:31:38.260 thinking oh i have a cock but i'm a female oh i have a vagina but i'm a male and it's delusion

07:31:43.480 the world is delusion because of woman because when you put as someone that is not in power

07:31:48.060 which is a female it's never been in power it's never going to be in power you're not stronger

07:31:52.120 than a man i go to a gym every fucking day i'm not as strong as a 14 year old man why because

07:31:57.040 men are more stronger and and now we're in a fucking world full of delusion we're here arguing

07:32:01.660 if fucking a fatty is better looking than a skinny person get a fucking look at yourself

07:32:06.000 everyone it's because of females we did it and if you keep doing it everyone's just going to be

07:32:10.380 weaker fatter and that's why you know why we're like this it's divided division we're like this because

07:32:16.400 someone in the fucking higher power they see that the division between woman and men is making us

07:32:21.060 weaker and the weaker we are the more we're going to work the more we're going to slave each other

07:32:25.360 ourselves now we're here only fans girls slaved by golden chains and we think we're in power we're

07:32:32.080 not that's not just gender that's everything of course because the capitalist people who are up at

07:32:36.620 the top the billionaires of the world they're going to try and pit everybody against each other of any

07:32:40.320 kind of difference the poor and the rich the black and the white the women and the men yeah they're

07:32:43.960 going to try and it's divide and conquer of course we're letting that division happen and we're sitting

07:32:47.980 here saying i would rather have a man than a like that have a bear attacking a bear would destroy

07:32:53.200 you in a fucking second you're i hope it does that i wouldn't have to listen to this shit anymore

07:32:57.680 holy shit every single day you're not gonna die if you're next to 10 men and 10 fucking bears

07:33:02.100 just know you're gonna die like it's delusion we we we let women we let women think they're in power

07:33:09.500 we made us think that like everything is a delusion because we started from thinking women have power the

07:33:15.820 same as men and now everything's a fucking delusion everything is a delusion i just sat here listening

07:33:20.400 to some of you guys basically been delusional for seven years seven hours it felt like fucking 24

07:33:26.020 hours this shit sucks and we know it sucks we know it fucking sucks none of you you would not if you

07:33:32.220 had a loving dad that would take care of you you would not loving dad if you my dad was very loving

07:33:37.840 and i if i had a loving that much right i think it's true i think it's true i have a loving dad

07:33:44.660 who's still alive and who's still very loving and he would agree with me being in powder what the fuck

07:33:49.760 he's sicilian he's as primal as they come i don't even think we have like men anymore i think men are

07:33:56.180 there's like fucking like three of them i think you i think that you're just you need to hit a trump

07:34:00.760 rally truly you'll be amazed i know there is some men but it's weird genuinely i i can tell that

07:34:09.140 you're just hurting because you're you're trying to recognize you're hurting i see the truth i see

07:34:13.700 the division i don't know why you had an attack this is her own internal issues i definitely did not

07:34:19.500 need to bring her i used to be just like them then i realized oh i see now what the fuck's going on

07:34:24.720 we they we they they're doing this to us to think that we're in power we're they're doing this to

07:34:29.980 us to think we're in control and delusion is okay everyone's delusional wait you said you have

07:34:34.720 something to say to her you know what you need to do honestly god you need to get your buns down to

07:34:39.800 mar-a-lago yeah and you can turn out like this and you can become this one yeah turn out like what

07:34:47.120 what makes you so fabulous we all have different beliefs i think that every single woman that's

07:34:53.440 here will rather have a loving man that will take care of them protect them have kids and do that

07:34:58.720 but then we we we believe that that's not what we want people oh i want to love women i'm literally

07:35:04.160 a fucking atheist i didn't want to have kids i have birth control and i took two years off to like

07:35:10.380 just focus on what the fuck's going on on the world she doesn't speak i i i took i studied

07:35:16.120 philosophy i started quantum physics i studied everything and then i realized you didn't finish

07:35:21.740 college what do you mean you studied quantum physics i studied it by myself you youtubed quantum

07:35:26.880 physics all right i want to point out one thing here you said women are more cooperative

07:35:38.340 in general yeah we're not we all hate each other if you put some of the one on steroids i work in i

07:35:44.080 work in a strip club and every female most of the times they just hate each other that's what it is

07:35:49.140 it hasn't been this heated all night you've been talking with me you got a female yeah that's what

07:35:53.180 happens when you put woman in power you wanted to say something to her earlier she said she doesn't

07:35:57.600 like people who agree with her so i'm trying my best over here brian what did you want to say i don't

07:36:02.400 want these people to agree with me i don't mean i don't we're past the time like the original one

07:36:06.380 or what the after so yeah the original thing i was gonna say is like i don't believe that every girl

07:36:12.740 like once they turn 18 become prostitutes it's very common and it's going that way because women

07:36:17.860 don't even have natural instincts to survive and that's why we always go back and then we beg them

07:36:23.460 for money you're not letting me speak so you can have your opinion i'm done all i'm gonna say is

07:36:30.180 i think we should all when the man i think we should all yeah that's what it should be

07:36:35.320 stop with the personal insults towards other people in this panel you know we did say that

07:36:42.320 we're going to be going against views and opinions but let's not personally attack each other now

07:36:48.620 women are so cooperative i know we're not personally attack each other now the most heated moments of

07:36:52.740 the whole show i think natural it's women on women violence i think nature is something that the rules

07:36:58.140 of nature will always follow us and the more and the more we go against that the more we go against

07:37:03.420 nature rules this is the shit we're gonna get delusional fucking humans going against their nature

07:37:07.880 exactly thinking that they can just turn who they are what they are something that's not pretty

07:37:13.280 all the other ones are psychos nature rules this is the definition of fault not following nature

07:37:19.560 rules do you think that if i asked really nicely the hospital would lobotomize me do you think that

07:37:24.240 they would do that what do you mean i'm kidding is it bedtime i don't know i just feel like that's

07:37:33.020 it's true why did you wait until like seven hours into the stream by the way that because i don't

07:37:39.120 i was i was waiting for you guys to get to a point i was waiting for a point that there's no point

07:37:44.200 you keep going back and forth to a woman without telling her what's the truth why can't you just

07:37:48.440 i'm trying to tell you you you you you should support you're supposed to educate this woman instead

07:37:52.660 of just hearing him out what the fuck who's that who's that helping who's that helping who did

07:37:58.080 that help this i was literally gonna ask you in the end what is this getting you listening to a

07:38:02.520 woman just tell you you're wrong for three hours that's not primal of you that wasn't

07:38:06.460 that was not i thought you would be more primal i only watched a couple episodes i thought i i

07:38:13.900 thought i thought you guys were red pill that this whole conversation was not red pill this was you

07:38:18.000 being very understanding through wrong side i don't think you should have been understanding i

07:38:22.400 think this was not manly of you i thought you were more manly i watched one episode one or two

07:38:27.940 episode of you guys and that i'm catching some some strays over here no because i because i

07:38:35.540 studied that shit the thing is like the more you go against nature rules it's worse hey i push back

07:38:43.840 i was like to her you wanted to hear this i don't want to trans i don't want to trans the kids i don't

07:38:50.320 want to trans the kids no i don't i said at one point i don't want to trans the kids brian i don't

07:38:56.520 want to trans the kids and i push back i don't want to trans the kids you want to let the women

07:39:00.880 i was waiting for you guys to get to a point i waited seven hours for you to at least spit something

07:39:06.580 to the delusion you didn't you just hear them out i don't do that this this podcast should be

07:39:13.160 educating people to go towards their natural instincts not to listen to them what the fuck is

07:39:18.520 the point we already know the liberals are fucking mentally ill i gotta you know that look i gotta

07:39:23.560 let them speak you know i can't just call them stupid you can't just call people you need a wrong

07:39:28.960 but you gotta let them talk and then you know yeah but you at least you have to voice your opinion

07:39:33.300 instead of be like oh i voice no you just hey i voice you just laugh you just laugh he has been

07:39:39.160 voicing opinions the entire time hold on you're supposed to you're supposed to go against woman oh

07:39:44.760 she's got smoke yeah exactly you're allowing me because that's what they did for fucking seven

07:39:49.200 hours too they went over what you're saying this is the problem with men what you guys you guys let

07:39:54.660 us speak too much you guys oh she wants she wants this is what she wants she wants i want to go back

07:40:01.820 fucking hundred years and start over yeah exactly you also want you want this no because men keep

07:40:10.880 listening yeah and then wait hold on we wouldn't be we wouldn't be here we wouldn't be here if men

07:40:17.240 didn't keep acting like a fucking nice person we wouldn't be here we wouldn't have all these

07:40:21.260 fucking weak people yeah yeah yeah that's what this is your show you're supposed to educate these

07:40:27.920 people instead of hearing what do you want me to do bench press you what do you want me to do no

07:40:31.320 educate woman when you're going against your beliefs tell them why it's wrong not just listen to them

07:40:36.580 tell them it's wrong that's why your podcast is supposed to be to educate people for the better

07:40:41.540 respectfully this is a walking paradox you can't say that you don't want to be yeah i think i i thought

07:40:47.400 that's what the point of the podcast was i watched a couple of the podcasts it was basically like

07:40:51.820 you want your friend i think maybe that like and it was his name andrew whatever he was he was telling

07:40:57.240 this woman like the truth and i thought this was the part i didn't know i'm gonna be here fucking

07:41:02.860 listening to yo i gotta be honest i don't want to hear marketing genius dude she's gonna clean up on

07:41:09.620 only fans tonight i will i will stop only fans if you guys get me away to make one third of what i

07:41:16.040 make in my fucking job i will stop only fans and fucking stripping wait hold on i won't i have

07:41:21.480 twelve thousand dollars in bills that's why i do it and i just don't think there's even men to take

07:41:26.720 care of me i try to go for men and the men are so weak they're listening to me they're men are

07:41:32.180 listening i don't want that we i don't want that i don't want that i don't want that how is that i

07:41:37.820 rather be a fucking lesbian i rather be a fucking lesbian than this shit what you're gonna listen

07:41:42.320 to a woman tell you they rather pick a beer like are you joking i push back on that what are you

07:41:47.180 talking about we've been a whole hour where he argued i called them sexists and they are sexist

07:41:52.260 and then yeah but that's the pushback and we can't even say if a fucking do you want him to spit

07:41:56.640 on me like what do you want me to like throw water in their face no i just think i just think at

07:42:04.020 least like voice your opinion with like a a goose drop your voice an octave i think men pushing it

07:42:12.700 back and listening is the reason where we are and none of us what am i supposed to call them i don't

07:42:16.420 think anyone's very happy i don't think anyone's happy throw out and then she brought men loneliness

07:42:22.840 and this is what it is because their whole existence of men is to be like loved and to like

07:42:30.900 did you did you she get an energy drink back there no i didn't it just made me very angry to listen to

07:42:41.360 this shit i literally it was just too angry i don't know i it just took me a while and she knows it to

07:42:47.860 take a boxing yeah i i honestly i don't think i'm a victim of feminism but i think i'm a product of

07:42:53.980 feminism and i feel like if i had the right male the right male here okay telling me what to do as

07:43:00.780 since birth here put your money where your mouth is yeah you're currently a stripper and you're

07:43:06.780 currently yeah because men are all gay okay you're gay cool you're gay all right be quiet so check it

07:43:13.100 out here's the put your money where your mouth is yeah here's what you're gonna do you have all

07:43:18.120 these notes about how oh only fans i hate it so much why don't i started hating it last year

07:43:25.080 do you have it on your phone two years ago do you have it on your phone yeah go get your phone right

07:43:29.540 now delete that shit delete what only fans your only fans i will if it's a moral imperative and

07:43:35.140 only fans is bad i and you hate it no you know what go take some action no shut the fuck up yeah go

07:43:40.680 get your phone go delete that shit right now you know what's my problem and then you can rub my

07:43:44.920 no it's not like that it's i that's that's what i want no but the problem i'll say that

07:43:51.200 shit in farsi no but the problem

07:43:52.600 anyways that's not um did you just say yeah that's how you said in farsi no i i don't i don't think it's

07:44:03.220 even possible for yeah i i tried i tried to i tried to go no i will stop doing it but the fact

07:44:08.760 yeah dude right now no but the thing but the thing is that men need to do it they shouldn't even allow

07:44:14.060 this they shouldn't even allow this in the first place why is it yeah you have yeah you can go get

07:44:19.560 your phone delete your only fans delete my only fans delete your only fans right now on the show

07:44:23.620 you want me to delete my only fans right now on the show okay i will go get it go get it

07:44:27.620 are you gonna deactivate it for me how how would i get the phone if this is gonna help anyone i will

07:44:34.400 fucking do it i will never delete my only fans please don't get any ideas you have a 30 day

07:44:40.640 window to change your mind though you can literally bring it back you will be the be the change you

07:44:47.580 want to see i will i will delete only fans right now but wait hide your hide your screen hide your

07:44:52.680 screen hide your screen oh shit i don't want but what am i going to do with the money here while

07:44:56.840 you're doing working it automatically it pays out no it doesn't it doesn't get lost it pays out to

07:45:02.140 you directly when you deactivate it it does i delete my only fans for what is men are men are gonna stop

07:45:07.200 being gay if i do that yes are you sure yes is if i delete my only fan i was gonna have if anal sex

07:45:13.580 tonight and i will stop if i delete my only fans right now these weak men that are paying all these men

07:45:19.820 these women they're going working hard this is a great woman to look at their fucking feet are they

07:45:25.640 gonna change their mind no it's not because men are so weak i'm allowed hey why isn't your

07:45:30.260 millions of dollars no but the thing i'm not sick it's okay i'm not even i don't even think i'm

07:45:37.100 gonna be safe i'm not here to beg for mercy i'm cooked i said that from the beginning i said that

07:45:42.300 i'm cooked it's okay i don't think there's any going back look just i don't think there's any going

07:45:47.040 back a little less a little less conversation who's gonna pay my bills who's gonna pay my bills

07:45:51.180 you're gonna go get a a job what's the to be slave to men again i'm slave to men anyways

07:45:58.380 what's the fast food chain in canada yeah i'm not going to do that fast food i'm not going to do

07:46:02.540 that tim hortons yeah you're gonna be a hostess at tim gordon tim hortons tim hortons okay i just

07:46:09.860 feel like if there wasn't weak men like this i wouldn't be where i'm at have you ever pegged a guy

07:46:14.300 i don't know that's kind of weird um yeah maybe i did tag a guy and i i didn't want to but why is

07:46:23.160 why are these men wanting me wanting everyone to peg them why why is this why is everyone so

07:46:27.740 chemically imbalanced what is that why don't we get to the instead of getting go to a charlie

07:46:33.040 meeting you need to go to mar-a-lago you'll be around i don't think me deleting my only fan is

07:46:38.660 going to help it the problem the problem is cope i i've been doing this since i was i'm not

07:46:45.160 hoping hello cup oh well i don't like to do did you know i like to do no did you know you can do

07:46:51.740 something and understand that it's wrong and keep doing it because society allows you to do it i'm

07:46:56.480 not saying what i'm doing is right but i can melt this shit i was homeless fucking seven years ago i

07:47:00.420 want three houses now three million dollar properties because men are stupid are you having

07:47:04.520 a manic episode no i'm not do you want some do you want your medication no i'm on your side i'm on

07:47:09.500 your side but it's just like i'm on your side i'm on i'm on this side but it's just like we need to

07:47:15.360 fucking work on the men we need to work on the men yeah okay i agree so can you delete that i can't

07:47:20.240 even tell you what i'm so with you i can't even i don't think you understand what i'm saying i'm

07:47:25.500 saying that all these girls like me you can be self-aware you can do something but be self-aware

07:47:31.440 and the problem that you're having a problem with me is because i'm self-aware i'm self-aware

07:47:35.640 wait can you scoot the mic to the back to where it was i'm self-aware i know what i'm doing is wrong

07:47:40.880 and i think next generation of men of young men should stop fucking letting women feed them this

07:47:47.620 bullshit they need to start being men again like fucking hundred years ago and not listen to a

07:47:52.240 woman to fucking and then instead of like taking care of one woman they're like paying all these

07:47:57.040 only fans girls is spending their money on us like why i'm telling you look into charlie kirk

07:48:02.140 he's got and you think by me deleting my only fans the world fucking problem is going to be

07:48:07.020 solved no if any guys out there want to spend their money on an only fans girl who loves their

07:48:12.000 job spend on me thank you no they want to spend it on one that hates their job and that's why she's

07:48:16.000 going to make so much money no i it's such a grift i promise you if i can make money from

07:48:21.280 anything gym related i will stop doing this my problem you got the attention i'm talentless

07:48:25.880 i'm talentless because i've been stripping and fucking having only fans for seven years i'm

07:48:30.800 talentless i'm cooked oh you're gonna make like 20 grand a night i'm not trying it's good you're

07:48:35.640 gonna make like 20 grand a night i'm not doing good i'm not even going against you i'm with you

07:48:39.920 that's the thing you're i'm with you on what on everything you're saying delete your fucking only

07:48:45.700 fans but it's not gonna help i mean i'm down to delete it honestly yes so fucking do it

07:48:49.580 hey stop pussyfooting hey stop fucking pussyfooting and delete the fucking right if she deletes her

07:48:56.100 only fans though you have to do a follow-up because you have 30 days to undo that give me 30 days i

07:49:00.880 will someone will need uh need to help me to get another job i need a man to save me i need men to

07:49:07.300 i'll hire you as my security as your fucking security what is the pay on that what's the pay on that

07:49:13.460 what's the pay on that i'll give you 20 canadian dollars an hour 20 canadian i can do that myself

07:49:22.460 why don't you get it why don't you get it they want us they want females like me when we go in

07:49:28.520 the normal world they want us to suffer they want us to suffer so we go back to this shit that's what

07:49:34.000 it is why don't you get it what i'm saying fuck now you trying to hustle me for a fucking no i'm

07:49:39.960 not they want us they want every individual female male to suffer they want us to be divided they don't

07:49:45.940 want us to be in groups because that's easier to control us that's what's happening i'll text you

07:49:51.380 the um sugar baby app i don't want to be a fucking sugar baby i don't want to be a fucking

07:49:56.780 all right wait i gotta let some chats come through so let's take a little good job in

07:50:00.840 television guys let me let some chats come through thank you you're just mad because you spoke for

07:50:06.120 four seven hours you got muted and i'm spitting facts stop stop i'm spitting facts smug druggler i

07:50:12.880 let chair one open my pickle jars if you by the way if you send in a 200 tts smug druggler we have

07:50:21.680 pickle jars in the refrigerator i will open a pickle so we'll have her open it okay we have

07:50:26.840 and you guys think i'm masculine every single man should be bigger and more jack than me because

07:50:31.100 it's in your primal instincts they're making you fat they want you to be fat because you're weak

07:50:35.220 every single man should look at me and look be like this bitch is fucking weak you guys have

07:50:39.760 testosterone you should go to gym you should become manly be quiet okay how bad does the conversation

07:50:44.960 have to be on a date for the man to take his food back and drop her off

07:50:48.440 what's the question you done fucked up you done fucked up is what he's saying

07:50:56.160 okay we have based trinot how oh wait did i oh he sent it twice my okay got double for it

07:51:06.420 i guess so thank you based for not he sent that in a while ago i don't know she was on a rant so

07:51:11.540 we have a bunch more coming through and you know i'm right i think exactly like you think but

07:51:16.680 because i'm saying i'm a woman and i have only fans it's stupid because i'm saying it

07:51:20.200 if you want to walk away from only fans and make the same amount of money get a job in television

07:51:24.240 i can't yes you can you don't need a degree hold on hold on since y'all couldn't even pronounce

07:51:29.400 it the definition of definition of solipsism is chair three and if men scare you enough to risk

07:51:34.660 being flayed alive by a wild animal you do not love men i love men i just really love bears

07:51:41.160 but we love talking shit about and i'm sorry i don't know how to say but we love putting him

07:51:45.000 down and make him into weak soy boys and half of them want to cut their dicks off like 10 minutes

07:51:50.340 yeah female leaders were more aggressive and vengeful look at a lot of the english queens bloody

07:51:58.200 mary yeah well put we have uh pasty george here with so many women full of fear towards men

07:52:03.960 depression erratic behavior and unstable fluctuating hormonal cycles how does that qualify them as good

07:52:10.800 leaders or for any positions of authority quick answer on this well i mean you say that women are

07:52:18.260 hormonal but most women in leadership first off are post-menopausal and also if you look at most

07:52:23.300 men in leadership they tend to be more erratic and more testosterone driven and more um just aggressive

07:52:29.580 in their tactics women's hormonal makeup periods we literally turn into different people for like a

07:52:35.740 week and what the fuck's gonna happen to a country in that one week when you're fucking all crazy

07:52:39.860 when women are on their period their hormonal makeup is closest to men's your estrogen drops

07:52:46.620 your progesterone drops but it's better to be on even emotions the whole time when you're running your

07:52:52.100 fucking country then your emotions going like this every again most leaders are post-menopausal

07:52:57.500 okay hold on save it for later let me read these chair three you are full of shit in canada there are

07:53:03.420 tons of support programs for single mothers but nothing for single fathers even the courts take their

07:53:09.380 side more it is the same for the u.s as well and i can't speak to canada there's way more social

07:53:14.720 safety net uh stuff for women than than for men but uh we have cherry here so you're using men for

07:53:22.780 financial reasons yes because they let me is this directed towards you yeah they let me and they

07:53:28.940 shouldn't let me scoot the mic to the edge of the table i think men are so weak that they let us do

07:53:32.960 it and they shouldn't let us why is it that every only fans girl is making millions of dollars when

07:53:37.180 men can't even make more than five six k months why why is that they're letting us do it they're

07:53:43.700 letting us become better than them when we're not but they're helping us to work through that

07:53:48.300 it's literally the top 0.01 percent those poor men it is poor man you know it's sad you know it's

07:53:54.480 sad well you said that they're not making as much money on only fans and i'm like no not on only

07:53:58.440 fans fuck oh this shit is stupid oh i'm just i'm literally doing this because i didn't speak

07:54:03.580 english seven years ago i i i'm i was retarded i still probably am but okay still just a little

07:54:10.480 bit um anyways i did this this and also the funny thing is like when i started doing this this was my

07:54:15.860 last choice and these girls are literally have families they have they speak english and this is

07:54:21.060 their first choice because it's so empowered yeah just wait for a sec though let me read the rest of

07:54:25.960 these all right cherry so what if roles were reversed in society your thoughts

07:54:30.900 what do you mean what was the question it's a bit cherry can you clarify yeah i don't know

07:54:40.440 your thoughts i'd be a bit more precise if you can if you want to send another one in

07:54:45.380 you can send it like just send in uh 10 cherry am i muted should i should i put my thought oh no just

07:54:51.440 wait one second uh women make horrible leaders because they enjoy being dominated and led from

07:54:57.000 based or not they seek approval nobody wants to follow them they have to dress up like men when

07:55:01.560 they get elected pantsuits and karen cuts well if that's the case why do men make such great soldiers

07:55:07.940 what also that's just not true for the women leaders okay uh cherry i'm listening to you chair one he

07:55:18.360 says that he's listening congrats but you don't want men to listen to you so i love men that's

07:55:24.160 the thing like i want him to listen because i'm like i don't know i want men to go back to being

07:55:31.300 primal that's what i want okay for them to take control look at the country like and canada was

07:55:38.000 the best country of fucking of canada and america were the best countries i'm in fucking canada the

07:55:42.660 shit's their whole country why is that because women are in power and they're emotional and they let

07:55:47.260 fucking anyone come in they don't understand that there is reasons is your prime minister not a man

07:55:53.260 it is but it's a gay man one sec one sec chair one you surprised me and that rarely happens you are

07:55:58.380 based and have my respect the sisterhood started attacking you because you spoke the truth and they

07:56:03.260 got triggered because they didn't like it yeah because no one no one wants to say they're lord no

07:56:07.700 one wants to accept that they're fucking up i am i know i'm fucking up it's not normal for humans

07:56:14.600 i'm gonna i'm gonna try this the best i can priscilla y'all it's already retarded a bunch of

07:56:21.320 mythandreth women with luth coochie energy i'm sorry i was trying to read it as best i could

07:56:30.500 uh all right this guy says he'll pay your bills okay we'll do he will pay my bills we'll get through

07:56:36.100 uh yeah i guess cherry creams um okay i want to blast through as much of the notes as possible so

07:56:42.460 okay we did okay wait there's some more shit from lucy damn bro wait who here

07:56:48.960 who here lives in la do you are you in la where i'm in orange orange okay california all right uh

07:56:58.740 let's see uh going to lucy you want to talk about age gap relationships oh gosh that was also a part

07:57:05.660 of far has question that i forgot to answer um when she was saying is it okay for a 50 year old to date

07:57:11.100 a 19 year old legally yeah it's a grown adult um but i think it's a moral murky gray area because

07:57:19.140 a 50 year old and a 19 year old typically don't have much in common and there's holly get off your

07:57:23.600 phone come on it's past hey holly get off your phone yeah and then get this girl a mocha chino or

07:57:30.020 something yes and then there's um also a power dynamic and balance as well so i i think while

07:57:36.220 it may be legally okay i wouldn't personally indulge okay cool thank you for sharing your perspective

07:57:45.320 thank you for letting me share uh i think it's honestly i mean i think most 18 19 20 year old

07:57:51.620 women probably don't want to date 50 year olds so um i wanted to what's that i wanted to yeah

07:57:59.120 uh but if there was a circumstance where she wanted to and the guy wanted to

07:58:04.600 i don't it's consensual i don't really see the problem with it yeah i mean you're referencing like

07:58:13.040 power dynamics but i mean i think you can make a counter argument that younger women have way more

07:58:20.080 power in the dating marketplace than 50 year old men like they have way more leverage and socially

07:58:26.920 yes i think younger women have a lot of social currency but an older established man might have

07:58:31.480 a lot of economic power and financial security and that could be extremely attractive to a young

07:58:37.020 romantic prospect okay so but is she just with him because of that or are there other reasons that

07:58:44.700 she might be interested i mean i can't speak on behalf of these women but i i could see someone

07:58:49.940 being very young and inexperienced and being lured and drawn in by security and stability what if she

07:58:55.500 reached out to him though like for example it's you would agree that it's logically possible that

07:59:00.380 currently there's like 19 20 21 year old women who even brad pitt i believe he's dating somebody but

07:59:07.600 assume he's single view brad pitt now and are like whoa he's really attractive even though he's an

07:59:13.680 older guy sure and they were pursuing him there's also would you object to him like accepting

07:59:19.240 accepting their pursuit well i mean i think as long as everyone's of legal age of course legally

07:59:25.980 it's totally 19 20 21 but i just think when you get into more of like the ethics of it um yeah

07:59:31.720 what make a moral argument for why it's wrong for uh brad pitt to date a 20 year old okay well i

07:59:37.900 didn't say it was but you're about to get into the ethics of it so make a sure okay ethical or moral

07:59:43.080 argument for why it's wrong um well i just think someone like brad pitt with all of his social and

07:59:47.800 financial power would have a lot of leverage over a 19 year old in a way that makes the relationship

07:59:54.360 inherently imbalanced which is not wrong because certain relationships are not totally equal and that's

07:59:59.780 okay if people want that dynamic for themselves but so what is morally or ethically

08:00:06.040 questionable about it well it's just going into a dynamic knowing that you have so much more

08:00:12.540 knowledge and leverage and power over the other person and that um in more ways than one you hold

08:00:19.420 a lot of power over them i think too i mean you can take the biological view which is your prefrontal

08:00:26.940 cortex which forms your identity isn't even developed until you're like 26 yeah um isn't developed until

08:00:33.260 you're 26 so i even me personally i know that i'm not going to get married until after that time

08:00:39.060 period because i haven't fully formed my identity who you are at like from 19 to like 22 is so different

08:00:45.440 than who you are by 26 and it's so different from who you are by 30 so like i again there are exceptions

08:00:51.820 to the rule i have a question though would you agree that there are like 18 19 and 20 year olds with

08:00:56.500 higher iq or eq than say 30 or 40 year olds i would say that that's possible yes but it's logically

08:01:03.960 possible i i think it's possible um well i don't think it's just possible i think it's the case that

08:01:11.020 there are plenty of 18 19 and 20 year olds who have higher iq than people in their 30s or 40s

08:01:16.640 like i don't think iq fluctuates that much sure but what i would say to that is probably if an 18 or

08:01:21.980 19 year old has a higher iq than a 30 year old then he probably they wouldn't probably be attracted

08:01:26.140 to the person what if that older person is really really attractive but they have a low iq

08:01:32.800 really talk again like i don't i think that if somebody has a super high iq they're not going

08:01:38.140 to be attracted to somebody with lower iq in fact there's studies that back this up that typically

08:01:41.860 people would sure that could that could very well be the case i think probably people of a certain

08:01:46.480 intelligence would want to date somebody perhaps approaching their level of intelligence or perhaps

08:01:51.720 surpassing it but the question is then is somebody who is 18 19 20 who has a higher iq than somebody

08:02:00.060 who's 30 is now they're a power dynamic going on where this person is arguably i mean you talk about

08:02:07.360 the prefrontal cortex but their iq is higher arguably they're just more intelligent than this person

08:02:12.020 regardless of the uh prefrontal cortex development so would there then be a power imbalance in the other

08:02:20.580 way this younger person has some leverage over the older person the relationship due to the higher

08:02:25.640 iq or eq what immediately comes up for me is that again iq is very different from emotional maturity

08:02:31.260 and eq so i think that just because the 18 or 19 year old might have a higher iq that doesn't

08:02:37.680 necessarily mean that they're emotionally mature just curious um does anybody here think that

08:02:41.980 they're more intelligent than me like i'm not gonna be offended like i'm just curious like do

08:02:49.620 you think you're more intelligent than me no i think you have extreme business savvy and you clearly

08:02:54.100 know how to run a very successful business you're a data scientist i dropped out of college are you

08:02:59.440 more no i just i have more higher education that doesn't say anything about intelligence yeah but

08:03:04.340 okay let's just talk about general intelligence then do you think you're more intelligent than me

08:03:07.980 i don't think so i think let's say you were though so if we were to date would you be

08:03:12.160 uh would this like be a predatory power dynamic oh let's just assume i'm really stupid and you're

08:03:18.720 really smart and we're dating but we're kind of what you're 31 i'm 31 right how stupid is really

08:03:26.060 stupid though because like if you had like developmental intellectual disability i mean i'm kind of autistic so

08:03:32.300 maybe i'm maybe she's like oh okay great so where you have like symmetry there but if your iq is

08:03:38.500 like low there's like you're high functioning autistic i'm low functioning autistic you're not low

08:03:45.160 function what i know i'm just low functioning autistic is non-verbal

08:03:49.200 okay yeah that would be a problem okay love on the spectrum that would be a problem what the fuck

08:03:56.800 this is a love on the spectrum have you ever seen episodes of love on the spectrum where you go

08:04:00.820 would it be those aren't matched up properly hold on but would it be like a imbalance like a power

08:04:06.780 dynamic imbalance if somebody with a really high iq did somebody with a low iq if you're low enough

08:04:12.060 iq to be manipulated yeah to where you're able to be manipulated very easily then yeah i would say

08:04:18.760 it's a problem okay but there are genius level iq people at 18 19 20 yeah so within this metric they

08:04:24.400 would be being predatory towards a 30 or 40 year old i think the the point with the whole age gap

08:04:29.880 thing and why it's like frowned upon to date somebody who's 18 19 20 is because more often

08:04:34.760 than not they don't have life experience to kind of guide them through their decision making whereas

08:04:39.500 if you're 50 you know how to manipulate somebody because you've kind of lived through that wait

08:04:44.320 this might be a really stupid argument but i'm just going to throw it out there okay so do you would

08:04:48.660 you guys agree that women have higher emotional intelligence than men i would say they generally

08:04:54.080 mature emotionally faster but do women have more emotional intelligence

08:04:57.780 i think to a point and then they match up yeah i think it's like women accelerate faster and then

08:05:05.360 they hit their cap wait am i using wait what's that term that they're always talking about is it

08:05:09.940 emotional intelligence i think it's most probably oh okay so wait if it's the case that women just

08:05:15.340 across the board almost always have more emotional intelligence than men this is very predatory of you

08:05:20.700 women to be dating these like low emotional intelligence men you guys are really fucking

08:05:26.680 predatory like you guys just fucking run circles around these men with your vast giant brains and

08:05:33.660 your massive amounts of emotional intelligence and these poor men they can't even articulate a feeling

08:05:38.780 or an emotion or a thought you fucking predatory monsters how dare how dare you date these men

08:05:46.380 you're so good at this so good i'm so attracted to you right now i think you're so intelligent

08:05:51.040 wait what the fuck you really know what you're doing and it's working what am i doing oh no you

08:05:56.740 like you can just create these like thought experiments out of thin air and it just it does exactly what

08:06:02.080 you want them to do and i'm really into it okay well there's some tissues over in the back if you

08:06:07.740 need them but um so anyways uh what was i saying yeah no it's just the case look oh i hear from women

08:06:14.600 all these guys you know it'd be great if they worked on their emotional intelligence you know

08:06:18.880 you fucking disgusting predators you guys are fucking apex predators okay apex give me a bear suit

08:06:26.580 how did we get here we went from like we want them to get better we want them to love us and respect us

08:06:32.380 and be loyal to us when all we do is bash them look i'm just saying i think you know there there is

08:06:38.720 something to be said about the power imbalance because you know it's just women you guys have way more

08:06:44.060 emotional intelligence than us us men just our prefrontal cortex isn't developed enough to

08:06:49.900 as men we're just we're very primal creatures as she says you know and we're just not uh we're not

08:07:01.260 attuned to the emotional intelligence thing and i think you women you take advantage of us you use us

08:07:06.380 for sex use us use us and i just find it disgusting you women you only think about one thing you know

08:07:14.660 you just want to use you know emotional intelligence emotional intelligence it's just really despicable

08:07:20.160 you guys you guys are abusers well okay hold on yeah okay fine you're abusers predatory very predatory

08:07:27.120 and uh yeah emotional intelligence will not save you from what's coming all the wars emotional

08:07:34.860 intelligence is not going to fucking save you from a war it's cool to have it but it's like really do we

08:07:39.140 like why we keep saying that to men you can't win a war without emotional intelligence the ability to

08:07:44.240 find out why people are doing what they're doing what is happening right now is emotional intelligent

08:07:49.080 emotional women are so emotional that like this is like the world the country is everything

08:07:54.320 mm-hmm yeah who's canada at war with with their selves it's a it became a third world country

08:08:02.340 it's literally you come into canada you see oh i don't want to say the race i don't want to

08:08:07.780 say the race no gas or electric it's crazy they're off in it i moved from fucking iran to canada to see

08:08:13.100 fucking white people she wants to go back she's going no i don't want to go back i want to go

08:08:16.160 somewhere i want to i used to want to go to europe but now hold on he's talking about you chair one

08:08:20.580 it would be great for men to take back control and bring back the nuclear family

08:08:24.100 but unfortunately feminism has spread too far i think there's a way back and i think we can go

08:08:28.440 back i think we can go back from feminism we tried it long enough we know this shit just making us

08:08:33.200 weaker it's ruining our fucking countries everything everything's getting ruined it's time to all right

08:08:37.500 you take the new generation delete your only fans the generation it's it's not even this and this

08:08:42.280 generation is cooked we're gonna we need we need i'm having a good time interracial relationships

08:08:46.940 you want to talk about interracial what's up did i you date black guys only exclusively no not

08:08:51.720 exclusively mexicans or i like every race um but you said you want to talk about interracial

08:08:56.860 oh i don't remember but i just i think it's it's beautiful that we can date interracially now

08:09:01.480 because there's so much to learn and enjoy from other cultures because back in the day we weren't

08:09:07.120 allowed to and now we can and it's great to not be limited that's why i only date black women

08:09:11.320 i love that for you thank you do you do you identify as is that true i can for you no no i don't

08:09:17.960 what the fuck huh what is filipino black just kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding

08:09:23.180 just kidding got some jokes here at the end of the show we got a comedian here at the table okay we

08:09:33.080 got josie getting back to your notes i'm gonna blast through these really quick okay uh what what did

08:09:39.180 we disagree on um uh we were talking about like the submissive dominant we talked about that for

08:09:47.100 quite a bit uh you think you're you think it's fine if a woman out earns a man yeah you think it's

08:09:52.360 fine if men stay home and read rear oh rear children yeah let's get them uh is that the type of

08:09:57.780 dynamic dynamic you'd be fine with i don't want kids um sure but i would be fine if i out earned

08:10:04.100 a man not by a crazy amount just because i don't i don't earn enough to support two people um but if

08:10:12.260 yeah so equal for where i live would be fine i think it's women who are dissatisfied in that setup

08:10:18.300 though i don't think it's men who are wholesale like butthurt about that i think women just there's

08:10:25.600 been articles and uh like i think the new york times or something had some article about women are not

08:10:30.840 finding economically attractive men bingo yeah why is that maybe it's because we made

08:10:37.760 like because men are far more unemployed than women yeah why is that because we made every household

08:10:42.780 two income and then the elite she's got a point the elites know that the more in divided we are

08:10:49.000 the more they can tax us the more they can make us work the more we're gonna enslave us double the

08:10:53.460 tax base exactly double and then look at this shit it's keep getting worse like it keeps getting worse

08:11:00.040 i have a single income family and these feminists are the breadwinner so we don't want to fucking

08:11:04.820 accept that and we we let it we let it happen and i have no problem i have no problem with it

08:11:09.980 personally yeah you don't you're literally having a mess no i won't have a problem with it ever

08:11:15.500 indefinitely no i really don't think so yeah i'm sure there i don't dispute that there's women who

08:11:20.140 are fine with the dynamic but i don't is she really fine though if if you i don't think most women

08:11:24.480 are cool if you think she's an only fans girl right i know you you make money and you think you're

08:11:28.240 proud of it i used to be proud of being a stripper too i used to think this shit's fucking

08:11:31.120 i was not proud of being a stripper or only fans it doesn't matter any of this but if you think

08:11:35.160 about it just imagine a female a little proud imagine no i did not like being a stripper being

08:11:40.240 a stripper if imagine a female in her natural habitat you should have brought wait never mind sorry

08:11:45.200 i just think i just think none of these only fans girls if they could think about it if they didn't

08:11:51.120 have to insert a dildo and their fucking vagina for for for money i know i don't know why i said

08:11:56.980 tilto anyways if if all if they're when while doing this act of doing these things to yourself

08:12:03.100 while doing it when you're making this content think think be like is this really i'm a human

08:12:09.240 with consciousness with power and energy i'm wasting my human existence

08:12:13.800 inserting a dildo in my fucking vagina how's it a waste how's it a waste how's it a waste

08:12:18.640 how's it a waste bro it's a way you think it would you rather just cook and clean it's because i do

08:12:24.280 that too it's a lot more beautiful to be in a community with your husband with your kids with

08:12:28.540 your family and just be a village be a group take care of each other and live a meaningful life but i do

08:12:33.940 all of that so i just got a question can i ask the question though yeah okay so you're you're saying a lot

08:12:42.300 of things that you do want and you're saying a lot of things that you don't want we ruined men

08:12:47.140 let me finish let me finish please i'm begging you to let me finish okay okay so what is stopping you

08:12:54.720 from getting the life that you want we ruined men i'm looking for the men okay that are like

08:13:00.600 you're blaming men when you have control of your life i don't want this life that i have control of

08:13:07.140 okay so then delete your only fans and then become a born again christian or whatever

08:13:11.980 about men and how like oh men are like this this and this first of all i don't think that should

08:13:17.840 really have anything to do with you if you want like the life that you want just go for it it's

08:13:22.800 also weird that you have total control of your life i'm not asking for forgiveness and i'm not

08:13:27.120 asking for like someone to be like oh you're a victim you can change it i'm not saying this is what

08:13:31.740 i'm not saying that this is what it is this is what i've done but we need to take a step back

08:13:36.240 because every when i did this shit this when i started like eight years ago it was something that

08:13:40.680 you weren't like empowered by it was something that you do as your last like chance and now we

08:13:45.260 have girls that are empowered by it i never said i was empowered by your last choice you're just

08:13:49.700 putting words in my mouth i never said i was empowered you like it no i do like it but that

08:13:53.700 doesn't mean i'm empowered i did it when i started i didn't want to do this is my choice

08:13:58.400 so that's my only choice and it is my choice to do it and i'm sorry that you had to do something

08:14:03.280 that you don't want to do and that's not fair and i really do hope that you get help and you

08:14:06.580 can make peace with yourself i can stop now i honestly can stop now so then do it properties

08:14:11.460 but it's just like yeah i could stop it and honestly if there is a better there is i have no

08:14:17.160 like talent like what am i what am i girl get some confidence take the money that you've earned

08:14:22.260 from only fans and go get a college degree it's not easy when you get used to making 20 30 40

08:14:28.040 000 a month it's not easy okay then why are you complaining why are you because it shouldn't have

08:14:33.080 been in like this in the first place okay if you really feel that way though like hear me out if you

08:14:37.940 really feel that way if you really feel that like your life as a woman with like a man should be a

08:14:44.140 certain way like i need you to know that you have full control of your life to change that it may not

08:14:50.300 happen in a snap of the finger exactly it's not going to i only realize how much i hate it in the

08:14:55.540 past like a year and a half okay then it takes a while it's gradually all right then that's good

08:15:01.060 for you so go ahead and do do something to get the life that you want that's what i'm doing it

08:15:08.140 that's what i'm doing it takes a while it's not that easy and it takes a while and i understand that

08:15:15.980 i really do but like while you're changing your life to get getting to where you while i'm changing

08:15:22.540 my life to get there i'm going to tell people the fucking truth and say how i do think it's funny

08:15:26.720 that you're sitting here and you're like these ladies are bigoted and they do hate men and you're

08:15:30.080 the one sitting here going men are gay all men suck now men are gay we are making him gay we we are

08:15:35.960 taking their natural instincts there we are making him at home fucking stay home wives

08:15:41.180 but what the fuck is this shit hear me out for a second that do you think i'm taking away your

08:15:45.960 natural instinct what do you mean you don't say women are taking you guys you males natural instincts

08:15:51.160 by telling you like by telling you you i don't need you as a provider i don't need you as a

08:15:55.640 protector that's their in nature that's their sole purpose on hold on that narrative my love

08:16:02.620 that narrative is you were texting for her that narrative is disempowering men i love and respect

08:16:09.020 manny wait guys we have to do a segment called everybody takes off all their makeup oh my god

08:16:14.400 are we leaving by four in the morning we're gonna be out we're we're gonna wrap soon we're gonna wrap

08:16:19.440 soon a lot of we're taking our makeup off how much can you take your shirt off the fuck you gotta

08:16:25.180 shave your beard i gotta take off my makeup i will i will i will yeah i don't care at all like i don't

08:16:31.720 i'll do it at this point okay can you shave your mirror actually literally like you just have to

08:16:36.740 take your contacts i can't see oh okay it's like actually like two in the morning i'm so down to

08:16:41.900 take my makeup off if you have you know a little contact lens case and contact solution do something

08:16:47.340 where i can put my eyelashes and a used beer cup or uh champagne but that's totally gonna get my

08:16:52.840 eyes and that will definitely look champagne is sterile okay get get all right good all right we

08:17:03.260 have some chats coming through we got uh cherry creams he says he'll pair pay chair one's bill

08:17:08.220 she heard it back there she heard it she just got up to do something everybody take your makeup off

08:17:14.560 you know this is the time of the show to just relax we're about we're almost done uh pasty george

08:17:20.580 put it over here

08:17:24.920 put the put the thing back put the thing back

08:17:30.320 all right uh okay pasty george chair one is right this generation is cooked and feminism has

08:17:38.560 not only demonized men but motherhood as well gen alpha is already showing signs of early adoption

08:17:43.260 of feministic values including misandry also cherry said he'll pay your bills for chair one

08:17:49.760 yeah if you pay my bills i'll get you'll get rid of my job

08:17:52.920 faux show actually i don't know are you gonna how long is it gonna take care of my bills for

08:17:58.440 oh hold it up when you're done once you're done hold up the are you gonna take your makeup

08:18:02.540 completely so i have some waterproof ones on

08:18:05.680 do something for my lashes are you trying to tell us we're ugly without makeup that i hey hold it up

08:18:12.360 molly holly we're supposed to work i'm not touching your makeup i know this is the division i'm talking

08:18:17.620 about this is the division why why do you want us to like be like oh we're ugly we're supposed to

08:18:22.380 work together not against each other what are you talking about wait scoot your mic this is the

08:18:27.620 division i'm talking about scoot scoot your mic is cool to take your mic back it is i have to be on a

08:18:34.180 flight at six oh man you just go straight to the airport girl no excuses play like a champion okay

08:18:39.900 so let me blast through the rest of the stuff uh let's see here

08:18:43.860 it's not the makeup tease

08:18:47.580 her hold it up again there it is hold it up everybody all right there's the damage there's

08:18:54.860 the damage all right rock and roll okay uh so i think i did most of josie your notes uh

08:19:03.100 are we ugly now you said you have no problem with people who transition from one gender to the other

08:19:09.260 but we already talked to like you're kind of against the sports stuff and children and blah

08:19:13.860 blah blah uh yeah i'm adults doing whatever they want with their body mandy okay we didn't mandy's

08:19:20.020 stuff marcelona we did not did not we did uh hold on did we finish all of lucy's stuff lucy goosey

08:19:29.200 oh i hope so uh i guess right ryan you put me on the spot my heart starts racing also because

08:19:37.740 you're so good looking that too is this gonna be followed by like an uwu or something sounded

08:19:44.440 sounded like you're like do you have an asian fetish why would that be an asian fetish is he

08:19:50.620 hotter than a bear i feel like that's just a weeb well obviously he's like the hottest man here

08:19:55.020 him or a bear it's him or a bear i'm the only man here what the fuck would you pick him or a bear

08:19:59.840 to bone no to be in an alley alone to be in an alley alone would you pick him or a bear obviously i pick

08:20:06.620 him i know him and he's attractive yeah but if it was uh fatty you wouldn't i thought it i don't

08:20:15.280 know okay uh let's see here we have uh okay we got to do a little bit of homegirl oh my god why do i

08:20:24.960 have so many notes uno memento while we're while i'm pulling up the notes guys i want to show you

08:20:32.020 guys a video i took of my ex-girlfriend uh and so because this is i have this expectation for all

08:20:39.480 my future relationships in terms of how what i expect so uh mary why don't you go ahead and play

08:20:45.580 that so i know you took this yeah okay yeah she knew she told me to take it boom did you fucking huge

08:20:53.440 bow huge bow so this is after a long podcast episode i get home to my pad and uh you know

08:21:01.900 she has my dinner ready as you're about to uh see here very very kind very kind and uh yeah and she

08:21:11.800 gets me a beer ex-girlfriend i i broke up with her because uh she had fake boobs but

08:21:16.440 i had to dump her yeah why she also tried to murder me in my sleep but that's another conversation

08:21:25.340 um yeah play play one more just the bow part really quick watch this check the shit

08:21:29.820 boom huge bow you see the fucking degree i would do that for you see how deep that

08:21:35.800 i would do that that's so going around the table would you bow for yes uh a guy if it was primal

08:21:42.120 and if it wasn't manly enough yeah yeah yeah i don't care yes queen no you wouldn't do that no

08:21:47.880 what if it

08:21:48.760 what is it bow for a man i'm a sicilian irish white chick no i'm not bowing for someone

08:21:58.220 do you do you appreciate dark humor very much so what if it brought your boyfriend back

08:22:04.400 oh that's cold right all right yeah that's the one that's the one you got me all right all right

08:22:12.620 all right all right resurrection fine i would yeah okay you yeah seriously though he wanted the

08:22:19.400 serious bow a serious serious bro like that one okay the head to the floor sure love it would you

08:22:25.200 hit a bow it feels too racially charged it feels a little weird i have black women doing that all

08:22:30.160 the time that's hot um i don't know i only date black women so but your ex was anyways she was

08:22:37.200 black she identified i don't think i would do that she was albino um she was cute the black albinos

08:22:46.760 end up looking asian for some reason uh all right what about you i would yeah you'd hit a bow oh okay

08:22:52.660 there you go holly yeah yeah there we go holly's my favorite character why did half of us take our

08:22:58.940 makeup off and then oh yeah i've definitely done it before like as a joke and stuff oh as a joy it's

08:23:04.780 gonna be serious like you know like bow to your sunset i also think on the first date uh i didn't show

08:23:09.780 this that like first date first or at least the first time she's over at your uh place a girl should

08:23:16.080 do your laundry oh on her first date first time first time she's at your spot at your place she

08:23:22.540 should do your laundry for you if we don't live together i'm not romance romance i've done that

08:23:29.420 honestly yes and it's an aphrodisiac too for you specifically uh probably for other men too it's

08:23:39.120 like god damn she's looks good folding my laundry most men don't want that huh most men i've dated are

08:23:46.040 like please don't do laundry for me like they don't want a woman doing his job that's a new

08:23:51.140 generation man well it's like that's like something you do as like these fucking pussies

08:23:54.840 with their no babe let me do it weak weak weak not primal with their independence and folding their

08:24:03.140 own laundry the fuck what is unbelievable these fucking losers god forbid a man know how to do

08:24:09.660 laundry it's terrible you shouldn't have to know yeah she should also um if i want to really

08:24:16.960 challenge her you know just to test i have like an old school fucking washboard too what's it called

08:24:23.960 not a wash is it the washboard it's a washboard yeah she's like they're the fuck you get this from

08:24:30.100 you can't even go to like a sears what wait not sears you can't go to a sears where do you buy a

08:24:35.460 fucking washboard i'm like i bought it on an antique shop so what are you bringing to the table

08:24:40.320 brian what do i bring to the table

08:24:41.880 i am the table

08:24:47.900 i am the table that's what y'all say

08:24:53.240 yeah that's what y'all say um all right here i got to do some notes for our good our girl emily

08:25:00.200 bradbury bradbury bradbury bradbury bradbury yeah emily bradbury dude okay uh okay so i won't

08:25:09.260 be able to you're in orange here's what we'll do i'm gonna do some of your notes but we'll get you

08:25:13.400 back on for another show and then we'll do uh we'll finish the rest uh okay you were in a

08:25:19.680 we'll save your relationship history for another show yeah what's that you can pick and choose yeah

08:25:25.280 go ahead but uh you said that you have a pretty well-rounded knowledge of masculine feminine what

08:25:33.500 men crave women crave so what what do men crave i would say that there's two main things in my

08:25:41.580 opinion what i've seen with men is that number one freedom like the ability to choose they don't like

08:25:46.180 to be nagged they don't like to be forced into things that they are don't want to do so freedom

08:25:50.640 but also they desire respect and they um i think those would be the two respected and sorry i'm

08:25:57.500 losing my train of thought a little bit respect and uh freedom okay you had a disagreement you said

08:26:03.560 you don't believe the draft argument is necessarily the right counter argument of the inequality between

08:26:09.920 men and women uh i guess what's your disagreement or yeah so generally speaking when this is brought up

08:26:20.260 sometimes on the not just on this podcast but in others to represent the inequality between men and

08:26:25.040 women um a lot of the time i feel like the each group is just pointing fingers about who has who has

08:26:30.600 it worse who's the biggest victim card which men do

08:26:32.880 i think there are other examples that men can use as well considering the fact that i don't even

08:26:52.140 i didn't research it before i came in but i'm not even sure when the last draft actually was i don't

08:26:56.280 think it was since like what world war ii wrong erroneous well erroneous erroneous vietnam feel free

08:27:04.440 to tell me yeah but i would then have to ask you this question slavery was also a really long time

08:27:12.260 ago was is that not an issue like that's not an issue these don't feel like good faith arguments ryan

08:27:19.440 that's no it's actually i know you want to laugh because i'm framing it in a funny way but it's

08:27:26.540 actually a really strong counter argument the consequences but it's really broke up with you

08:27:33.400 what about this kid with cancer no but here's what you got if your argument is x bad thing

08:27:41.640 happens a long time ago then the logic it would just follow that okay well slavery happens a long

08:27:47.840 time ago does that not happen because we still feel the effects and consequences of slavery in

08:27:52.920 our society today but we don't from the draft erroneous also erroneous boom lawyer law you've

08:28:00.440 already lost the argument i just have to say no you're wrong okay here's what it is so you're wrong

08:28:06.120 in a couple different ways so there are men who would be alive today that aren't because they were

08:28:13.520 drafted in vietnam there are men alive today who were drafted and they have they're homeless they

08:28:20.060 have severe ptsd they have all kinds of problems because of their experience in vietnam i'm saying

08:28:28.220 men as a whole and the majority of men in the u.s do not face consequences still and feel the effects

08:28:34.520 still of the draft from the vietnam war but black people in america do still feel the effects of

08:28:42.560 wait hold on i mean hundreds of years of slavery and then segregation if we want to go back if we

08:28:46.740 want to go back to like world war one world war two there were a lot of american men that were

08:28:51.620 drafted in these conflicts and families were destroyed men are dead they did we draft in world

08:28:57.640 war one and two i thought we only drafted in vietnam there's always been a draft in existence if

08:29:03.380 you don't know that hold on you don't think men were drafted in world war one in world to my

08:29:08.720 knowledge i thought that vietnam was the only time we've had to enact the draft that men willingly

08:29:13.920 signed up for world war one in world war two in droves yeah there were volunteers but there was

08:29:19.100 also a draft can we double check that i'm happy to double check it um okay did did the usa draft in world

08:29:28.740 war two imagine i'm wrong oh i typed world war 23 i was like yes the united states did institute a draft

08:29:39.280 during world war two the selective training and service act of 1940 authorized a draft even before

08:29:44.380 the u.s officially entered the war this act required men between the ages of 21 and 36 to register

08:29:50.440 uh telly 10 million men were inducted into the military through the draft during world war two let's

08:29:57.240 do world war one uh yes the united states did implement a draft during world war one

08:30:03.980 the selective service act of 1917 authorized the federal government to raise the national army

08:30:08.640 through conscription this enacted after the u.s declared war on germany i just don't think you have

08:30:15.260 the uh historical knowledge here to really be you know debating me on this you don't even know

08:30:22.280 there was a draft for world war one world war two pretty decent world history knowledge but i did

08:30:27.060 not know that one hold on you didn't you don't have the requisite historical knowledge and understanding

08:30:32.260 to have this conversation sorry okay it was good good good attempt though okay no draft i disagree with

08:30:39.460 you but okay will you disagree that there was a draft no i disagree that i disagree that not knowing

08:30:44.580 that makes completely disqualifies me from this conversation yeah but so these men were forced to go

08:30:50.920 and fight and go to war and that's horrible but today in 2025 the men of today that exist today in

08:30:56.920 the u.s are not still suffering the consequences from those men that were drafted well hold on if

08:31:01.660 there are there might have been men who were born had it not men alive on this country's soil today do

08:31:09.600 not feel the the the effects of well yeah they never had the opportunity but the black people alive

08:31:16.380 on the u.s soil today but a bunch of men feel the effects of slavery do they yes oh okay redlining

08:31:23.700 and districting like that's that's what's sort of plagued the back the black community for forever

08:31:28.400 but that would be a separate issue from slavery it came down from slavery slavery became jim crow

08:31:33.520 which became segregation which became redlining and the bombing also the titanic don't don't get me

08:31:41.020 started on the titanic all right sorry it's late so my arguments are no we're we're we're at the end

08:31:46.380 of the night damn y'all spilling like crazy what the fuck um wait so hold on where were we who was i

08:31:53.960 wait was the girl out are you and get up she got up or no you're talking to emily i was talking to

08:32:00.060 you oh the draft so wait what's the argument really quick so i think there's two main things that i have

08:32:06.300 here which is number one i think that a lot of time when in podcasts like this and other ones are

08:32:10.760 brought up what about the draft it's more of like again the pointing victim blame like of who can

08:32:15.960 be the biggest victim who can be the biggest martyr rather than actually talking about ways that we

08:32:19.480 can create solutions for both groups um but secondly i would say that um the i think there are other

08:32:27.240 issues like while i i come from a family of veterans and so i understand the long-term impacts

08:32:32.160 that it has um in fact my own father passed away after um after the war so again i hold a lot of

08:32:38.380 empathy and a lot of respect for people who are in that are veterans i think that now actively

08:32:43.760 currently in society um there are bigger issues that if you had to do the who's the biggest victim

08:32:50.100 card you didn't have to use the draft but that's just my opinion that was a little sassy well i mean

08:32:54.980 i mean the draft conversation just comes up in conversations about uh privilege or patriarchy or

08:33:03.800 any sort of feminist centric conversations so i mean the whole narrative of feminism is women have

08:33:11.480 it worse compared to men but then when you start which was convenient for a period but then when men

08:33:19.680 was started playing that same game of okay well let's do analysis of the ways in which men have it or can

08:33:27.800 have it worse you actually start to discover and uncover uh quite a bit of ways in which you can

08:33:35.100 make compelling arguments that men have it worse so just playing the feminist game of what women do

08:33:42.500 or what feminists do women are disadvantaged men are privileged and then it's like well in these certain

08:33:50.300 aspects perhaps perhaps but then if we're going to play the same game of doing comparison it's just

08:33:57.300 counter-narrative true feminism is just evening the playing field no it's not in my experience and in

08:34:03.640 my interpretation of feminism so far is that the initial first wave of feminism was about

08:34:08.340 equal rights meaning that or equal opportunity feminism has never been about equality well what the

08:34:16.760 fuck was suffrage that might be your opinion on that i'm saying that they got other feminists okay

08:34:21.440 the right to work the right to wear pants the right to okay but hold on women were able to get

08:34:27.320 rights without corresponding responsibility we had to become taxpayers bigger okay hold on what duties

08:34:36.320 do women have to society what duties the same as any other yeah do they have the same duties as men

08:34:43.600 potentially i would argue yes okay what about the draft that's okay the one exception but i do think

08:34:49.400 that women should be one exception hold on the one exception that results in men dying so i would i would

08:34:56.160 say oh would you like to go no no no no go ahead i would like to say that i think men and women uniquely

08:35:03.260 have different things that they contribute to society i believe in polarity meaning that there are certain

08:35:09.020 strengths that women have and magic that they bring and there are certain strengths that men have and magic

08:35:12.980 that they bring and so i i think the draft might be one example that where men may be physically

08:35:19.680 stronger i also think if correct me if i'm wrong there were also a lot of female medics during that

08:35:24.720 time except men are not physically strong uh well even if i grant that there were female medics which i'm

08:35:30.900 there are perhaps nurses when i think of medics i think of like on in the field but uh they weren't

08:35:38.760 drafted no woman was forced to become a nurse so to your point though feminism has not been about

08:35:47.180 equality well now it is i'm in favor of drafting us well hold on next topic but this hold on this

08:35:53.460 idea that feminism is about equality the most charitable definition i'll give feminism is women's

08:35:59.100 advocacy which is fine it's that's cool but i think it's this idea in terms of equality women were able

08:36:06.520 to secure the right to vote without the corresponding responsibility that men had for them to be able

08:36:13.920 to vote which was you're subject to forced military conscription women were able to completely avoid that

08:36:21.140 duty while men it's been a hundred years by the way over a hundred years since women have had the

08:36:27.280 right to vote there's been no push by feminists to equalize forced military conscription so i ask you

08:36:35.700 again men have duties to society what duties do women have to pay taxes and contribute to society yeah

08:36:46.200 equal okay well hold on no not really because the government can say you know what we're at war

08:36:52.820 we're gonna send the men to the meat grinder and they can go die or they can get i think that if

08:36:59.780 we're drafting we should draft both okay but there we go okay that's great it's great that you think

08:37:05.180 that but it's not the case currently with the law hallelujah you want it to be the case we're already

08:37:11.780 well hold on but if we're having a conversation if we're having a conversation about equality and women

08:37:16.720 being able to vote and they can vote in uh representatives who can send men to war

08:37:22.880 yeah i mean i think if we're talking about equality like fully being equal to each other yeah why

08:37:28.700 if we're actually we're not equal we'll never will be right but that's what feminists are saying oh we

08:37:33.540 should be equal yeah they're saying that like men should be in women's thing because we have the same

08:37:38.880 strength so yeah if you think men men can compete in women's whatever then yeah we should go to war

08:37:45.640 let's do it and let's fuck up the country even more by sending us war okay maybe i'm tired and

08:37:52.160 um this is a totally bonkers idea so i i would i'm open to hearing feedback about this but why don't we

08:37:57.900 just if a feminist movement or any movement just removed the forced inscription or the of the draft

08:38:06.500 and then that that's like it's all isn't it well yeah so you're saying the solution for

08:38:14.920 getting to equality would be to remove the draft yeah okay down for that okay that's great but you

08:38:24.300 do realize that nations are not going to uh relinquish their rights to force its citizenry

08:38:30.960 into a military conflict if they deem it necessary one more time sorry i'm tired they should

08:38:37.380 well okay let me ask you guys a question say that there's uh oh okay i think i understand a little

08:38:45.460 bit better okay one thing that i challenge though with that is um back with that i just watched this

08:38:52.560 movie so again maybe not the best source but the desmond dos one one of the things that i noticed is

08:38:57.900 that with um back the cultural expectation back then is that men were very excited to go to war

08:39:04.340 they had something to fight for they had the country to protect they had women to protect um and

08:39:09.400 any cause to fight and to defend they were i mean they were also propagandized but okay okay that's

08:39:17.100 fair that's a fair and also i mean you said they were defending women uh back then there was this idea

08:39:22.520 chivalry women were women were ladies men were gentlemen now we didn't have to draft for iraq people

08:39:30.680 willingly signed up for iraq and right now we have at no other point in human history have there been

08:39:37.080 more women who are sex workers and strumpets and all this stuff right nothing so this like idealized

08:39:44.260 like yeah men want to go and die for women why as you are women like are women virgins they don't

08:39:53.320 even want to have kids with you guys anymore because a woman is a virgin okay but hold on if

08:39:58.220 for men to be virtuous women also need to be virtuous sure but i think is it only men have to be

08:40:04.680 virtuous of course not okay so women should be virtuous too or should they not definitions of

08:40:09.500 virtuous are different now is is female uh virtuousness negotiable female virtuous like men

08:40:16.920 men should be willing to sacrifice their lives but so what sacrifice should women what what's the

08:40:25.060 sacrifice women do what's their sacrifice what are their duties they have sex with men when they

08:40:30.620 don't want to hold on wait well i think there's a couple of things like um if they have children then

08:40:36.920 obviously when the men are at war they're the ones taking care of the children okay um that would be

08:40:41.500 one i think that having children are women having children yeah basically but no one's even

08:40:46.420 no they're not hold on okay if the duty if the answer is having children but women are not having

08:40:51.620 children not necessarily i think there are plenty of women especially conservative women especially

08:40:56.680 southern women i see it all the time as a southern girl that are wanting to get married and are

08:41:01.080 like okay maybe we're on different sides of tiktok but every single one of my videos on tiktok or

08:41:06.400 oh my god i can't wait to get married like i'm 22 and i want yeah there okay yes there are i'm not

08:41:10.860 saying there's a complete absence of more conservative leaning women who do want to have

08:41:16.660 children but we are what is it called the birth uh there is a birth what's the word for it

08:41:22.320 like the birth crisis population collapse all this stuff so if it is the and first off there's not a

08:41:30.840 government mandated duty for women for women to have children but there is a government mandated

08:41:35.860 potential risk that men are going to be sent to war to go and die okay i'm not suggesting

08:41:40.600 there should be didn't men like create the draft force that uh what okay the but other men argument

08:41:48.500 um i mean that's a bit of a red herring but i mean i'm not against like i'm i'm not a strong

08:41:54.400 feminist but it was also made by men brian when i'm yeah but i'm curious about men didn't set

08:42:00.340 anything up as a monolith and it's a bit of a red herring logical fallacy uh so do you think men

08:42:06.920 deserve current disadvantages because some small group of powerful men in the past no set up a

08:42:13.740 supposed system no i'm just saying if you have problems with the draft like who implemented the

08:42:17.540 well can i ask you a question so if let's say you live in a utopian society but there's other

08:42:25.380 societies that want to like take your land or just they're aggressive and belligerent so even if your

08:42:32.720 own society within your own walls is totally utopian and like everybody's equal and everything's

08:42:38.420 fantastic wouldn't you want to defend that society from potential outside invaders yes so even in a

08:42:44.760 utopian society there would still be a need for its citizenry to have to defend said utopian society

08:42:51.440 no like i'm very pro-military everyone in my family's military i've married an active duty

08:42:57.920 military member right but in the utopian all i'm saying is if you have a lot of people are going to

08:43:01.960 join the military if you have a problem financial incentives absolutely it was a man who made the

08:43:06.780 draft and it's a man who's in power now who could put women in the draft and they're not i don't think

08:43:11.060 they're you're against draft no i'm not against draft i don't think he's even against draft he just

08:43:16.160 wants to have a reason to be in the draft they're not saying they don't want to save you guys they're

08:43:20.020 saying why would we save these hateful women that don't even like us it's worth dying for when the

08:43:25.260 woman loves you takes care of you have a child for you and their whole life is you then yeah they're

08:43:30.620 gonna go but most men were not sitting at the table when these systems were built yeah but it was

08:43:36.840 still a man who decided it okay a man and it's still a man now thousands of years ago well there's

08:43:43.200 people actively in the seats of power right now i don't know exactly if they're men or women i would

08:43:48.180 assume that they're dominant if a woman if a woman was in power but if a woman was in power the draft

08:43:54.220 wouldn't disappear tomorrow i don't say i think it depends on her idea her belief okay let me give

08:44:00.740 you an example at the time let me give you an example so let's say that uh again we live in a

08:44:06.500 utopian society and everything's really great here but there's this other society that wants

08:44:12.260 our stuff and wants our land because our land is better or whatever or they think that our land is

08:44:16.720 their land and then they raise an army and they invade let's say that they have more soldiers than

08:44:23.760 we have soldiers this is a hypothetical scenario we know that their army is more powerful because they

08:44:32.140 have more soldiers but if and our volunteer army is not big enough to defend against their larger army

08:44:40.980 but if we force some men to go and fight then we can repel the invading force don't force them

08:44:49.800 offer more money there's two things that i would say here okay but also america's military is the

08:44:55.500 strongest military in the country already let me respond to her thing yeah i know that but it's so like

08:45:00.060 hold on but it's a hypothetical way in a random ass state so it's cooked into the scenario that

08:45:06.340 the men don't want to volunteer like they don't want to die doesn't matter you could offer me a

08:45:11.440 million dollars you can offer me a 10 million dollars i'm not going to fucking ukraine okay i'm

08:45:18.940 not going i don't care how much money you offer my life is uh priceless yeah but there's a bunch of

08:45:24.160 dudes who absolutely would sure sure that's how the military gets people okay but i don't think

08:45:29.780 the military uh i it's not clear to me if the military in all of these circumstances would be

08:45:36.680 able to like offer each soldier a million dollars and then the existing soldiers are going to be like

08:45:41.760 oh you're paying them a million dollars well i'm not going to find unless you pay me a million

08:45:45.000 dollars the u.s military could but that's what i'm saying i don't think the u.s military pays

08:45:49.960 nothing there's yeah they don't they pay literally the united states military the most powerful

08:45:54.180 military in the world pays dog shit no they pay literally nothing so that's the problem but

08:45:59.160 yeah that's the way that people the reason people join the military today is for the money

08:46:04.060 no it's typically people it's people who want out of their small towns typically

08:46:11.460 it's one of the reasons i'll grant that there's a lot of things here which is number one my previous

08:46:16.400 boyfriend was actually um he was in the military and so i know a good little bit about the benefits

08:46:21.640 and such like that but before i even met him the reason that he joined the military and i respect

08:46:26.240 him and a lot of men that also have these similar beliefs is that they believe in protecting the rights

08:46:30.780 of our country not he was in the military way before he had me as a girlfriend and before he was

08:46:35.100 considering me as a wife and so his purpose was he wanted to protect again the rights of this country

08:46:41.280 the freedom of speech the right to bear arms and the fact that we are a big superpower as a country

08:46:46.700 just period and so that that's one thing is that i believe that regardless of what you believe about

08:46:53.300 women i think there's a lot of respect that i have for men who just want to protect the country so that

08:46:57.020 we can continue to have the rights that we have number one number two if in this scenario like you

08:47:02.740 know let's say the men don't want to volunteer i'm not against the idea of okay yes men and women

08:47:08.640 can be drafted into it they may play different roles that's what for people who are way higher

08:47:13.560 up and way smarter than me can think about which is okay maybe the women if they're not physically

08:47:18.480 as strong for being on the front lines whatever it is i think there's some women that could probably

08:47:22.720 meet those qualifications but if not then they can be medics they can be there's there's you know how

08:47:27.860 many people in the military are even on the active war and they're in the background doing tech and

08:47:32.660 doing drones and monitoring right i would still so i would still argue even in scenarios where

08:47:38.460 we did open up the draft to women it would still be some degree of injustice or inequality because

08:47:45.040 invariably there would you would put the women in safe positions where they're out of harm's way so

08:47:51.380 even if technically we do equalize the draft it's ultimately still going to be some form of male

08:47:57.140 disposability where the men are always going to be sent to frontline combat positions and the women are

08:48:03.320 in like these like you said like uh back uh what's it called sorry i'm fucking tired uh

08:48:09.900 back of back of the line positions i don't think that's i don't know how necessarily true that is

08:48:15.060 i don't have the stats for it but like women are not medics are going to be in frontline combat

08:48:20.280 i mean depending if we're having really bad numbers for the military may not have no choice but to put

08:48:26.360 women on the front lines or just give up on the i think we should just take all the men out of the

08:48:32.740 military and just put men or put women all in the military and just let them fight for a couple

08:48:38.060 which equals your country going to someone else let's go girls let's do it okay uh moving on a couple

08:48:43.720 things then we're gonna get this wrapped you wrote that body count does not matter should

08:48:48.000 shouldn't be led with history history can be an indication of values and character

08:48:51.420 but the idea that men and women are defined by it is not looking at the deeper true perspective of it

08:48:56.000 uh going around the table uh a woman's passion not matter does anybody who agrees with that

08:49:00.920 maddie do you agree with that like passion the amount of people she slept with emily you agree with

08:49:05.800 that lucy you agree with that for the most part yes agree uh eleanor you agree uh going around the

08:49:12.740 table what is uh if a body count doesn't matter what's your body count starting with homegirl i do it

08:49:18.620 professionally so i these ring pops were a terrible idea well we've been here for so long i'm

08:49:25.860 need sugar no it's just you your teeth i know it looks so black um it's my job it's okay so i don't

08:49:35.940 know range ballpark 80 90 100 200 did you know your civilian count yeah civilian um i believe it was 12

08:49:45.780 okay and then how many for work you said 80 yeah okay around there uh what about you can you scoot

08:49:51.660 your mic to the edge of the table please mine is eight eight okay six men four women okay emily nice

08:49:59.460 uh so i mentioned this on my post but out of okay what about you three men one woman uh 20

08:50:07.320 okay i'll never tell range ballpark never never so is it over mine

08:50:15.740 what about you am i also allowed to no you have to answer i'm sorry is it over mine just just throw

08:50:20.780 that there six six okay all right wait hold on wait and now you multiply it by three and that's

08:50:27.980 i was literally gonna say

08:50:29.540 time three bro i don't reveal my body count come on holly what is it come on it's never gonna happen

08:50:39.920 shit after tonight i don't know shit what's up holly what's up she took that ring you see that

08:50:44.280 shit damn she was she wrote it for you what's up all right awkward oh we should get out of your way

08:50:51.360 then okay don't get jealous over there all right i can watch all right i'm gonna blast through i'm

08:50:57.000 not gonna do all these questions we're gonna do like three or four and then uh okay maddie a

08:51:00.800 man dating a transgender woman is straight why do you think that

08:51:03.400 i just do next question dude it's like three in the morning no it is not three um i'm from

08:51:14.740 georgia so it's like it's like 7 a.m for me oh shit i don't think the time difference is that much

08:51:21.680 but it's three hours i feel you um you can't ask me about transgender topics right now i can't i can't

08:51:27.040 do it yeah this should have been an earlier topic well i have to have you back on the show for that

08:51:30.880 lucy a man you said oh my god lucy yes lucy goosey you've you're in la right yes okay we're

08:51:37.060 gonna have to have you back for some of these okay a second date i would love yeah second date um

08:51:40.880 oh my god i'm just gonna do the good ones then i'm gonna skip the trans stuff because i don't know

08:51:48.100 whatever once again it's too late for all that yeah i'll do a few i'll do just like three or so

08:51:53.240 okay uh why don't we do this uh josie jose jose jose how do you say your name uh men

08:52:00.740 are more privileged in society than women why is that what'd you say you said men are more

08:52:07.040 privileged or you agree men are more privileged in society than women yeah i would say that that's

08:52:12.740 true why is that just more respected in general more respected yeah in the workplace i respect

08:52:19.420 women in the workplace yes you do uh but more respected what does that mean

08:52:25.540 their expertise are respected more than women okay are they yeah i don't know we got a data

08:52:36.340 scientist here she she's very well respected in her data science field it's a male dominated field

08:52:42.040 so not really as long as you respect me brian all right that's it that's the only way men are

08:52:49.860 more privileged in society than women no there's other examples but it is two in the morning so i'm

08:52:54.000 running on fumes babe the wage gap no i'm not gonna talk about wage gap but uh okay let's see

08:53:01.280 damn i should have hit this earlier i blame you guys you guys were talking about some weird shit

08:53:06.700 you're the host i know it's all my fault you're you're the big man yeah you're supposed to tell

08:53:12.700 us what to do you're supposed to lead i have to step away for a moment uh okay people like five

08:53:18.460 minutes out of this nine hour podcast people of color can't be racist towards white people why do

08:53:24.320 you think that lucy i think prejudice and racism are separate so anyone of any demographic can hold

08:53:30.640 um you know not so pleasant views towards other demographics but to actually hold institutional

08:53:36.160 power and systemically oppress and marginalize um is a completely separate issue well so there's like

08:53:44.060 institutional racism systemic racism but you don't believe in individual racism oh that's just

08:53:50.920 prejudice no that would be racism so for example if a individual white person oh my god you're white

08:53:57.840 splitting to me well that would be that's racist in of itself coming coming from an asian woman i suppose but

08:54:04.600 uh you would agree that a white person could say a slur towards like a black person and that would

08:54:11.120 be uh racist right right yeah right but it wouldn't be like institutionally racist so it was systemically

08:54:18.700 racist it would be perpetuating uh pre-existing institutional barriers i'm not well perpetuating

08:54:24.900 okay well because think about like the slur for black people would be the n word and then there's a slur for

08:54:29.860 white people are just cracker because of slavery but you can say one word and you can't say the other

08:54:34.540 don't say it for the platforms oh yeah just call them saltines saltines okay that's fine it's literally

08:54:43.280 a food okay sorry um so but okay um

08:54:48.460 so you're saying that there can't be an instance of individual racism that a white person experiences

08:54:59.540 in the united states if i went to china could i experience racism probably not because they love

08:55:05.520 white people over there like they really love you guys okay well you can make that same couldn't you

08:55:10.000 make that same argument here in the united states um but white americans generally don't love people of

08:55:16.760 color or minorities and are you kidding me hold on what is the dominant yeah what what would you say

08:55:22.820 is like the dominant culture in the united states when it comes to like music and well i think americans

08:55:29.020 we love like you know hip-hop music we love to adopt and wow if it was the case how could how could

08:55:35.060 like hip-hop and rap ever be mainstream because we love certain aspects of people's cultures while we

08:55:40.480 can still harbor our own prejudice and so you think all these white people who love rap music are like

08:55:46.520 secretly racist no not at all i just think how you feel about one aspect of someone's culture

08:55:52.500 doesn't absolve you of having any sort of implicit biases towards that particular demographic of people

08:55:57.860 you can hate mexicans and love tacos okay yeah sure that's true but again so you're saying a white

08:56:07.380 person in china for example could not experience racism i think well that's a completely separate like

08:56:13.960 social system but generally speaking asians tend to love western culture and white people and a white

08:56:19.880 person could experience marginalization but you can't apply that same logic here in america yeah but

08:56:25.060 i'm asking could a white person experience racism in china i still wouldn't say it's racism i would still

08:56:31.080 say it's prejudice hold on are white people the institutional power in china or are chinese people

08:56:37.200 have systemic and institutional power well white here what no go ahead the answer i was gonna say

08:56:43.320 because um western supremacy has has been pervasive throughout all different areas of the world so

08:56:49.560 even in areas like east asia china is antagonistic towards the west but still we still adopt like

08:56:56.360 eurocentric ideals of beauty and still uphold american liberal word salad um

08:57:02.060 okay so you're just to be clear um how do you define racism well racism is when there is a dominant

08:57:11.720 uh social constructed group that is in power that wields the institutional and systemic power to

08:57:18.640 oppress and marginalize other folks who are not in that particular demographic okay great so even using

08:57:24.940 your completely ridiculous and uh definition of racism just for the sake of conversation i'll grant it

08:57:33.300 under your own definition a white person could experience racism in china marginalization marginalization

08:57:41.420 or prejudice or they're not the same thing okay can i ask you a question if the government of china

08:57:47.280 decided decided to kill all white tourists in the country would that be racist i mean that's

08:57:53.820 it would be genocidal yeah would it would it be a racist policy

08:57:59.080 or is that just prejudice no it would be a hate crime

08:58:04.720 would it be racist though i mean it would be a race-based hate crime but would it be racist

08:58:12.620 i wouldn't use that terminology so it's just prejudice how could it possibly be hold on i'm giving you a

08:58:20.080 difference of civilization a different society where chinese people hold all levels of institutional

08:58:28.280 power like as a white person can i become a member of the ccp i mean if you got citizenship i'm

08:58:36.360 can hold on can even white people like go to japan and i i'm not sure if they

08:58:41.780 ever can become japanese but uh somebody who's japanese or any from any country can come to

08:58:47.740 america and become american and they can actually join the political system so again i'm asking you

08:58:54.460 if i were to move to china or there are white people in china and the chinese the ccp

08:59:01.760 they had some policy where they're like you know what we don't like these white people in our country

08:59:06.480 we're just going to kill all of them would that be racist i know you want me to say yes but i'm saying

08:59:11.140 based on the vernacular alone i don't feel like this is a layup how this is yes i know she's not

08:59:16.800 going to say yes it's like defeat if she admits but it's a total layup it's just like the definition

08:59:23.000 we're just arguing semantics okay how about this south africa sure sure where they're killing all the

08:59:29.040 white farmers i don't think if if you want to make this argument that well okay in asian countries

08:59:33.980 they they pedestalize white people there's some dispute there but okay fine whatever uh

08:59:40.820 they do that in my country they do that but it's because you guys accomplished um a lot more okay

08:59:46.360 mary you got to be really careful with her angle here um okay so what about in there's certain

08:59:52.640 african countries where there's like not really any positive sentiment towards white people

08:59:57.680 they hold all the power black people hold all the power in these african countries

09:00:01.900 could there be racism towards white people in an african country i mean are are the white people

09:00:10.820 currently being subjugated to any sort of oppressive regimes or hate crimes i'll just give you a

09:00:16.060 hypothetical let's say there's the the it doesn't even have to necessarily how about like a white person

09:00:21.660 goes to an african country and an individual citizen of said african country uh murders them

09:00:27.320 because they're white would that be racist it would be a race-based hate crime would it be racist

09:00:32.400 i mean i just my only qualm is with the semantics here because obviously it's race-based no but

09:00:38.960 explain okay again what is the definition of racism well to me it's about the power structures that are

09:00:45.240 existing not just about one race hating another race okay so but i'm even use again i'm using your

09:00:50.700 definition you're talking about power structure so i'm assuming in an african country for example it's not

09:00:56.040 white people who have any power in that said african country a certain area okay great south africa

09:01:01.440 but even they aren't really in power as much anymore i'm talking in nigeria let's use nigeria i don't

09:01:09.760 think there's like a uh really much representation of white people in their government system the

09:01:15.160 government system is to my understanding entire entirely made up of black people sure but it still

09:01:22.100 doesn't absolve what has happened with um again the eurocentrism that has been so pervasive

09:01:28.140 throughout the entire world which is why you see all sorts of cultures going through practices like

09:01:33.040 skin lightening or trying to make themselves look whiter what would that have to do with

09:01:38.020 a black person murdering a white person in an african country because they don't like white people

09:01:44.240 how is that not racist it's well it's a race-based hate crime i'm just saying why won't you why won't

09:01:50.620 you put the racist title to it well because i just don't think that's an accurate use of the word

09:01:56.320 but i'm using what is the words okay repeat the definition to me because i must be missing

09:02:03.300 something in your definition repeat it okay no the only thing is like the difference is that there

09:02:08.940 is a dominant group that is in power that holds socio-political and economic capital

09:02:14.960 and currency in some sense but if someone kills white people don't have any of that in african

09:02:22.380 countries or in asian countries no they definitely do because no they don't globally white folks hold

09:02:28.620 a lot of i would hold on just to be clear i think there are probably more uh asian americans who have

09:02:33.480 power in america than there are white people who have power in in any sort of form of government

09:02:39.380 in any asian countries oh that's not true that's the model really how many okay how many white people

09:02:43.820 are in the ccp but that's that's the ccp okay how many white people are in government in japan

09:02:50.580 why are we looking at east asia though okay where do you want to go laos vietnam where do you want to go

09:02:57.000 no cambodia i i probably there's not white people in positions of power in any of these asian

09:03:02.960 countries well sure but i'm just saying that that's the government and that doesn't that's

09:03:07.460 not the same thing as substantive equality or representation on a global scale bro that's a

09:03:13.200 bunch of word salad what you're also catching me at 2 a.m but um yeah it's like 2 30 brunt i gotta

09:03:20.980 drive home all right i'll wrap it soon i'm gonna get this wrapped truly i mean i don't want to fall

09:03:26.380 asleep on the road i'm we don't want you we don't want you to get two hours same it's like

09:03:32.640 seriously i mean lucy we can run we can run it back but i'm i would love to go on a second date

09:03:37.380 with you too thank you appreciate it i just genuinely don't understand the logic here because

09:03:42.020 i'm meeting your definition of racism i'm literally meeting your definition how about this uh this is

09:03:48.060 one i often like to give let's say barack obama when he was president he refused to hire a white

09:03:53.480 janitor because he was the janitor was white in the white house would that be racist it would be

09:04:00.100 prejudice and bigoted but it still wouldn't be okay can i ask let me ask you clarifying questions

09:04:05.260 okay your your definition of racism is prejudice plus power basically basically if you were to

09:04:13.000 simplify it okay so barack obama at the time was the president of the united states of america with

09:04:21.640 the most powerful nation in the world most powerful military he's the uh what's the term uh

09:04:27.940 commander in chief of the united states military he is the leader of the executive branch of the

09:04:33.520 government and the the he's the leader of the executive branch of the government and this government

09:04:40.820 is the most powerful government in the world uh the united states government the executive branch is

09:04:47.020 is uh an institution and it's also systemic it's a system how does this then not meet

09:04:54.820 your definition of power plus prejudice if barack obama at the time was the most powerful man in the

09:05:01.680 world and he was the leader of systems and institutions and he was prejudiced towards a

09:05:09.100 white person that would then be racist under your metric of prejudice plus power well no because

09:05:15.340 just because barack obama individually is a man of power that doesn't necessarily mean that he is

09:05:20.640 absolved of his identity as a black man yeah he's still black sure throughout his presidency um he

09:05:25.760 was targeted a lot for his blackness but that's beside the point yeah very red herring so still

09:05:30.640 it's i mean not anyways but so because of blackness still being entrenched in his identity he still

09:05:37.540 carries this marginalized identity with him throughout his presidency and therefore he can't

09:05:42.440 just say oh because he's president therefore anything he does is inherently they're racist

09:05:47.400 or whatever other type of ist because he has a position of power through his job but not through

09:05:53.740 his identity i see okay i'll okay if you want to dodge it i can give you another example let's say

09:06:01.480 there's a corporation that it's a black-owned business massive international corporation this

09:06:07.540 is hypothetical i'm not citing to an actual company uh and it's united states based this corporation

09:06:14.440 international makes billions of dollars a year and the entire uh board of directors all black

09:06:21.060 ownership black uh leadership black and they refuse to hire white janitors and these white janitors are

09:06:28.880 clear and these are all millionaires by the way black millionaires but the white janitors all come from

09:06:34.200 like a really low socioeconomic so it's classes okay here you don't know there's you don't know

09:06:39.600 their socioeconomic status but i think it's fair to assume if somebody's working as a janitor

09:06:43.840 probably not like really high up when it comes to socioeconomics is that racist that's classist

09:06:50.600 okay how okay but no no no we've got to agree to disagree guys hold on hold on it's not classes

09:06:58.120 because the reason they won't hire them is not because of their class they happen to be of a low

09:07:02.380 socioeconomic class but the reason that these uh black millionaires who run this corporation the

09:07:08.180 reason that they cite to is that because they're white they won't hire them because they're white

09:07:12.700 that is also a like a race-based prejudice your mic don't lean on the table scoot scoot your mic

09:07:20.820 go ahead yeah so it's it's a race-based prejudice and it's unjust and it's wrong but i mean i still just

09:07:27.760 my only issues with the semantics i'm not arguing with you on the ethics or the morality because i agree

09:07:32.200 with you that it's not right i'm just saying for the vernacular of like you know what the definition

09:07:37.200 yeah but i mean if you just change the definition to people people named lucy are racists like being

09:07:44.260 to be a racist you must be named lucy and that's it then i could just say that you're racist

09:07:50.200 you could you just change you just change the definition to suit your political ideology

09:07:56.840 change the definition you are it's not the definition it's not the definition here i'll

09:08:02.960 google it and i can read it to you here watch racism super easy uh prejudice discrimination or

09:08:09.240 antagonism by an individual community or institution against a person or people on the basis of their

09:08:14.860 membership in a particular racial or ethnic group the dictionary is not all encompassing of all

09:08:20.580 sociological sociological factors well up until like 10 years ago all this wokeism bullshit that was

09:08:26.520 the accepted definition of what racism what does this have to do with dating i don't know

09:08:32.160 she she made me print these out i didn't print these out she printed these out um well it's been

09:08:39.740 an amazing show everybody this has been the roughest first date of my life uh wait let's see did

09:08:45.760 anybody write last one and then we'll wrap i get to pick one more i would have loved to have gotten

09:08:51.380 to all of this women do not have equal rights yeah whoever it is please just agree yeah just change

09:08:57.220 your views agree i agree anybody does somebody want a energy drink or anything if we have any

09:09:03.020 availables that one makes everybody get anybody for 22 hold on let me just see if anybody did 22

09:09:09.400 holly do you need one i'm gonna get coffee all right uh okay i'll just do this um women do not

09:09:16.520 have equal rights to men in the usa lucy you uh please just say they do lucy you agree hold on

09:09:24.200 it's the last one just say tba i'll see you next time two minutes here we'll do we'll do three minutes

09:09:29.340 never three minutes you have to put a stopwatch on there also marcelina you also said women do not

09:09:35.400 have equal rights to men in the usa uh here let's just dive into it i swear three four five minutes

09:09:41.720 tops put on a timer you guys please just agree i was just saying that based on like the pro-choice

09:09:46.280 and pro-life oh just the abortion thing okay yeah we don't have equal rights because that's like

09:09:50.480 control over yeah well i'll just say that men don't have reproductive rights so

09:09:54.220 there's not an inequality okay yeah they're like if a man wants to get a vasectomy or get his tubes

09:10:00.300 tied he doesn't have to jump through all the hurdles that women have to go through if they want

09:10:03.580 a hysterectomy or to get their okay what rights do men have that women don't and that's not true

09:10:08.700 by the way oh is it not no god back checked go ahead hold on chill out chill out relax um just give

09:10:15.960 me a right that men have that women don't oh gosh i mean to ghost women that's the kind of right they

09:10:24.380 have i mean i would say there's okay okay so to wrap this up really succinctly there's a difference

09:10:32.440 between formal and substantive equality so i would say on paper it looks as though both genders are

09:10:38.020 equal now but in practice that is not the case because if you look at boardrooms if you look at

09:10:42.620 political leadership yeah what about rights though what about rights what does that have to do with

09:10:47.620 rights well okay perhaps i my interpretation of that was okay i would say on paper we've made strides

09:10:58.560 so that men and women appear to be more equal than before but we still live in a patriarchy where

09:11:03.360 men and women are not treated equally and do not have the same substantive access to equality

09:11:09.000 i don't think you'll ever escape the matrix oh yeah you're stuck in this shit forever

09:11:15.880 never escaping the matrix we'll have her back we'll have her back um that's cool um in any case there

09:11:24.600 there are no rights that men have that women don't so i'm going to prepare for our second date better

09:11:30.060 brian sounds good sounds sounds good all right a couple chats come through then we wrap uh i only

09:11:35.540 have two uh will masters it was below the threshold my friends but um uh yeah it was below the threshold

09:11:44.320 we're at 69 tts slash read uh darth vader what about the how do you pronounce this

09:11:50.900 uyghurs uyghurs uh who are currently encamped in china well yeah i mean they're at the ethnic

09:11:57.340 minority in china so are the chinese racist towards the uyghurs i mean i think that that's really close

09:12:04.860 to i mean yeah that's an interesting way to spell i mean are they racist towards them i guess i mean

09:12:11.640 those are an ethnic minority group so one could argue i mean i'm not a you do realize globally white

09:12:17.100 people are a minority well yes like statistically proportionally yes yeah white people are a

09:12:22.860 minority globally you're so exotic that's right that's why they love us over there in asia okay

09:12:30.000 all right uh that's it for the chats if one comes through i'll get to it but uh i'm gonna get this

09:12:35.040 wrapped up here because the girls are hating me right now so hey you know whatever uh okay so here's

09:12:42.080 what we're gonna do i'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity

09:12:46.860 to give you you also you uh you and you a call to action would you consider stopping sex work entirely

09:12:56.620 tonight right now only fans i guess for you not sex work yeah would you consider stopping sex work

09:13:06.120 tonight well absolutely if nothing changed what do you mean like just just for no reason just to

09:13:13.520 stop it like yeah just just right now just stop it right now and like what's changed like you know

09:13:18.140 there's bills yeah it's the mortgages are you know some people enjoy it if you say you're gonna pay my

09:13:24.340 mortgages and my bills and you're gonna help me find another job to support myself then yeah i only

09:13:29.700 date women with large labia sorry i would never quit with what i enjoy it i mean this is how i

09:13:35.900 fund my grad school education i don't fund anything i just like it but if i could go back

09:13:43.140 you should bring on johnny sins with him okay i will go back we've never had a male i'll bring him

09:13:49.520 we've never had a male actor i've been saving it for for the the chief the big man john well that

09:13:55.080 sounded weird oh like the like the final boss he's the final have you seen our video or something

09:14:01.200 no i want to see i can bring him actually one of your people just told me that they're gonna pay

09:14:05.780 my bills if they do that i love that for you will you delete it yeah i would didn't you just start

09:14:11.060 like a month ago or some shit no i've been doing it or who was the month ago person me she restarted

09:14:16.060 good oh well okay i'm not a month i had to so you'll start my life worse

09:14:20.440 i don't know you quit tonight well then who's paying my bills uh i don't know i think you have

09:14:29.580 a bisexual girlfriend over there just trying to sorry i have to pay for people now yeah why i thought

09:14:36.220 you were like the boss babe gonna pay for shit okay all right nobody gonna who said that

09:14:39.920 oh no whatever uh okay i failed i tried my best though you know i tried all right uh i think it's a

09:14:47.200 system system problem and there is possibilities of people deleting it but it takes a while

09:14:52.360 and there has to be a lot of different ways to stop the way that the world is going

09:14:56.980 it it does have a lot with men and women both sides it would be a whole change all right uh gg

09:15:05.560 well played last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight

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09:15:46.080 or speak now forever hold your peace holly i think you have a good night yeah holly you need final word

09:15:54.380 final word what's that mayor oh super here i'll pull up real okay we have oh sorry guys couple

09:16:01.720 a chat came through uh hide that for a sec i would like to thank the panelists for attending the podcast

09:16:06.740 and to brian our host chair one is awesome for speaking facts thank you all and good night i'll

09:16:12.100 get you linked up with he's in canada he owns some casinos i'll get you guys i don't know you don't

09:16:17.760 get it i'm not here to get saved or like pity i'm here to go you just saved me i mean i am but like

09:16:23.880 hey my i am right well i need a man to save me that's not my main focus my main focus is like

09:16:30.420 why are we here that's my main focus like why are we here let's on earth wow that's a really deep

09:16:36.500 no not that this is not that like i thought we're i thought we're trying to go home now

09:16:42.980 if you want to find a man and get your bills paid go to trump rallies go to mar-a-lago

09:16:48.580 go see charlie kirk and in his people i did subscribe to my only fans for me yeah they're

09:16:55.320 not i yeah they're not like that if you want to pay my bills subscribe to my only fan and see crazy

09:17:00.460 take this as as an example take this an example of why brian listens to their bullshit bullshit he's

09:17:06.060 using their bullshit to explain to them that this is bullshit all of you should thank brian for

09:17:10.260 listening to your bullshit w brian w whatever oh my god thank you so i think we shouldn't even be

09:17:16.000 in a position for you to have to listen to our bullshit mazel tov good night i agree that's what

09:17:20.460 i think i agree you're listening you're listening to our bullshit because it's forced on men's

09:17:25.280 throats young men i just should because i think you should be focusing on helping young men fucking

09:17:30.460 bitcoin is what i should have done you know i was a fucking idiot exactly no i should have a round

09:17:35.020 table of a man i think we should get your act together and i think you have a good opportunity

09:17:40.020 to do that no when i heard about bitcoin in 2013 here's what i should have done

09:17:45.940 i should have invested that's something in the past she loves it josie loves this conversation

09:17:49.480 i should have fucking bought some bitcoin when it was at a foot less than a fucking dollar

09:17:54.300 i would have been so fucking rich you think i don't fucking wake up with nightmares because i

09:18:00.220 remember i was about to click the fucking buy button i was about to buy like a hundred fucking

09:18:04.600 bitcoins here i am talking to a bunch of motherfuckers tonight it's fucking crazy instead i could have been

09:18:10.860 rich on some fucking island i could have been on fucking hawaii with my fucking bitcoin but i'm

09:18:17.800 talking to fucking you i think you have very good ideas you could do that now with your youtube

09:18:23.740 no you were doing a good job it's just like i'm not gonna catch a pump on bitcoin hello what the fuck

09:18:29.260 my only chance is doge or ethereum maybe or shiba inu or whatever i think we should talk about

09:18:35.940 9 19 uh it's gonna be like try uh 9 19 19 19

09:18:45.400 13 okay like exactly 13 because you know how we have to do the delay we have to do the delay okay

09:18:54.080 oh wait okay it's coming okay uh oh sevens in the chat good night guys good night everybody oh sevens in

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