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Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, host Brian Atlas is joined by Alex, Char, Kitty, and Lavinia to discuss the age of your significant other. Is it a good thing or a bad thing that they don t know their own age?
Transcript
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape.
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I'm your host, Brian Atlas. We're just going to dive right in, have the guests introduce themselves. Go ahead.
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Yeah, so my name is Alex. I am 24 years old. I am from Oklahoma City.
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I do stand-up comedy, basically just in Oklahoma, and I'm an online whore as well, sometimes.
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And then, what else we got? I went to a tech school in Choctaw, Oklahoma for mechanics, and I got all my certificates in that, and that's about it.
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And your mechanic, what kind of, do you work on a specific kind of car?
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No, so what it was for, I was on an engine building team for 350 small block motors, and we went around the United States to see how fast we could tear them down and put them back together.
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So that was really cool. And then just the basics, of course, so.
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Okay. All right. Did you, you did the tongue thing? I might have missed.
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That was like June, I believe. I was just really bored with myself.
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It was like a week. It was pretty, it was pretty gnarly.
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I definitely regretted it in the very moment because I was just drooling all over my fucking self.
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My name is Kitty. I'm 25. I'm an influencer. I would like to go back to college because I'm not very good at college, but I'm going to try again.
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All right. And you say you're an influencer. What do you do for content?
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My name is Char. Char Gates. I'm from Oklahoma as well. Oklahoma City.
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My career is, I'm an adult entertainer, mattress actress, online comedian, whore online, bully white men for money, all of the above.
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Yeah. And no, I don't go to college, obviously.
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You guys are really, with the online whore thing, you guys are just owning it.
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Well, I'm going to continue the chain of I also do OnlyFans.
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I keep my age and location private, but I do live on a farm.
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The location doesn't really matter, but why the age?
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Well, because I already show everything online, I can keep some things private.
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But I do OnlyFans and I did a year and a half of college and then I dropped out,
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but I went for media and marketing and I was going to be a producer.
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I don't need your location, but we'll have to do a compromise then.
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You want to just, so we can move the show along, can you just share your age, please?
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The more information someone has about you, the more they can...
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I don't see how maybe date of birth could do something, but your age seems kind of...
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I mean, I already, like, post very, like, explicit things online.
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You're kind of doing a troll along with it, so...
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Do you want to just go ahead, just for the sake of moving things along, do you want to
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I'm a college student, and my major is business administration.
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I went to college and got my degree in human services, but now I do OnlyFans.
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I am from Washington State, and I work in government.
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I have a little bit of college experience, and I studied psychology.
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I am 27 years old from Orange County, California.
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I work as an event coordinator, social media manager, and basically design manager for a
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And then I have a degree in visual communications and design, and another degree in business
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Going around the table once more, what is your relationship status?
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Remember, you're here to represent yourself, not to win the room.
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I'm not sure who that's for, but Mr. Nobody, thank you.
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Yeah, I mean, obviously his dad, but we're not together.
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I just wanted to get married and settle down, and he didn't want to get married, and I thought
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that it would be a good idea to get married before I even have the children, but obviously
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He thought it was too much money to get married.
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Obviously, we could have just went to the court and got married, and it just never happened,
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and I didn't see it going long term after that whole thing, and then he cheated on me.
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When I was two weeks postpartum with an OnlyFans bitch, so it kind of runs deep there.
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And that was a year ago that you broke up with the father of your child?
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Yeah, here and there, but not really anything like too solid, just because I don't want to
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introduce anyone to my son, because it's weird.
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Yeah, you want to make sure it's the right person.
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Okay, so question though, had you, before you got pregnant, had you, by the way, was it
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I want to have a bunch of children, and I was like, let's go.
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So, because I had in mind that we're going to get married, we're going to live a beautiful
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And so I got married, not married, got pregnant, and I was like, oh yeah, he's going to marry
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And so, let's see, how far into the relationship did you get pregnant?
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Now, prior to having the kid, had you guys broached the marriage conversation?
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And it was like clear as day, we're going to get married, you know.
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He had his grandma's ring picked out, resized for me.
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So, in my head, I'm like, okay, so anytime now, you know, we were obsessed with each other,
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it was no problem, and then I fall pregnant, and I was like, okay, so he's going to propose
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And then, when I became two weeks postpartum, he lost his job because he couldn't keep his
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mouth shut, and then I had to go back to work with stitches in my vagina because I had to
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Yeah, so it was very strange and not something that I expected to happen, but things happen,
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and now I have a beautiful son out of it, and hopefully I could have more sons and more
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Besides the marriage dispute or the dispute over wanting to get married, was there, was
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It was just like, it was just kind of like a slow downfall, you know, you get pregnant,
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things start happening, there's money issues, you know, when am I going to quit my job to
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stop working, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And so, and then, you know, the porn came into play when I was like two weeks postpartum,
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you know, we obviously can't have sex for two months, and then I caught, you know, like
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OnlyFans stuff, porn, the whole nine, and I was like, oh, fuck, okay, and then it just
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Wait, when did you, when did you start doing OF?
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Pretty close, a couple months after the breakup, about four months after the breakup
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Prior to that, you'd not done any kind of sex work?
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I worked at like a bar called Twin Peaks, which is kind of exploitive, but, you know.
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It's kind of like Hooters, but I was a bartender.
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And do you think the, what precipitated the breakdown of your relationship was the dispute
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On his end, or do you think it was kind of you driving that?
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Probably a little bit of both, like him thinking money is everything, and me being like, no,
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He's like, no, that's like a whole nother situation.
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But besides the dispute over marriage, the relationship was mostly good, it sounds like.
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You know, we're living in the ghetto of Oklahoma City, and we weren't making that much money,
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but I thought that was just fine, because, you know, we had each other, and now I'm having
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And then, you know, somehow you're too broke to get married, even though it's a $40 document.
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Do you think, had you not pushed on the marriage issue, you guys would still be together?
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Probably not, just because there's also the postpartum stuff with, you know, having to
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go back to work, because he couldn't keep his mouth shut at work, and got fired.
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No, he had an altercation at work, and it was, like, this whole thing that got him fired,
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and if he would just shut his mouth and work, I could have been stay-at-home mom for just
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a little bit more, because I feel like I definitely missed out on the postpartum of getting to
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bond with my child, and that was just something I couldn't forgive, and it really ruined the
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Also, I noticed you have a, I think it's a Nine Inch Nails tattoo.
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You should have worn something to show some of the more of the tattoos.
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I don't really regret them, because they're hilarious.
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Can you show, hold up the, let's see the sleeves, I guess?
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The tooth on the elbow ones is kind of interesting.
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But in the year that you've been single, have you had, been seeing a guy one month, two
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I had one guy that I was kind of seeing, but with the kid, I just was like, I don't really
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And even, like, my friends, I feel somewhat uncomfortable with them meeting my son, just
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because it's such a, like, dear and close thing to me that I feel like no one else should
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have access to it unless I'm, like, absolutely, positively sure that I'm going to be with this
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And he's a redhead, so I don't want him to be the ugly redheaded stepchild.
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And, uh, wait, I had one more question on this, but.
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He takes care of my son when I'm, I can't, obviously, right now, even just to be here.
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Um, I respect them very much, and they've showed me that it's not all men, but some
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But at the same time, I, I know how to forgive people, and that's why today I have a good
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relationship with my baby daddy, because I don't take it as a fault.
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I just feel like, well, okay, yeah, time to learn again.
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Um, uh, he gets him, I drop him off Thursday at daycare, and he picks him up that Thursday
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Well, sometimes in 50-50 custody, there's still child support flowing one way or the other.
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But if he needs anything, because at this point I make more money than him, and I always
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tell them if he needs anything, diapers, wipes, clothes, I will be more than happy.
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Well, uh, you know what we'll do when I, at some points during the show I have to get
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Uh, we'll have you do your comedy set when I get up.
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Was that the one that ended two to three years ago?
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You said you've been single for two to three years?
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No, that was, um, after high school, so I was like 18.
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Uh, so you've been single for two, three years?
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Like, what's the longest period of time you've seen a guy in the past two, three years?
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Also, you, uh, and I don't know if this is a bit of a, like an act or whatever, but you
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Uh, so you're what, I think you refer to yourself as a Dommy mommy, is that correct?
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In fact, before the show, you proposed, well, why don't you tell them?
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Well, I'll pass, thank you for the offer, but, um.
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Yeah, but, uh, okay, so, uh, that is interesting.
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I wonder if, I don't know, maybe I'll open this to the panel.
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Even under a consensual framework, can there still be things that are problematic, even with consent?
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I think there can, but I don't have a specific example at the moment.
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I think it would probably have to be in the moment.
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Like, say, if they withdraw consent, then it's like, oh, okay, like, we can stop now.
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I mean, look, people have their kinks or whatever.
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Like, I think certain sadist, sadistic acts, even with consent, I think are, can be a bit problematic.
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Especially when it comes to, like, a lot of the physical stuff, where there's, like, punching and slapping.
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Yeah, I mean, it's hard to say, though, but where'd you draw the line?
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Because on one hand, I'm sure you get paid for it, right?
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They pay you money, you're like a fin dom or whatever.
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Do you drain their bank accounts, or do you do that?
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I drained three of his credit cards, and then I never heard from him since.
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Like, okay, for example, we've, we've had some girls come on the show who say that they are, they do fin dom, and they, they drain men, and the guy wants to be to the point of bankruptcy.
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And I wonder, even under a consensual framework, if this is copacetic to fucking banks, bankrupt somebody under the guise of a consensual, uh, kink.
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And so part of their kink would be to be financially dominated, and they send so much money to the point that they're, like, maybe they stop being able to pay their rent.
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Uh, they, you know, go into so much debt even that, yeah, they become bankrupt because they're willfully, uh, giving their money to a fin dom.
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It definitely would be funny if we did it to a woman.
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I mean, at what point could I, the, the fin dom person or even, uh, external observers, at what point can we be like, okay, we're taking advantage of somebody who's mentally ill.
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That's exactly what that sounded like, actually.
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Have you seen someone walking around on the leash?
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Well, I don't think people should do that in public.
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I mean, I think the leash stuff, while it's peculiar, uh, if you do it in a, in private, I'd, not something I'd be interested in, but.
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I don't, I don't think that, that it's, uh, I don't think it's crossing a line of, like, some form of abuse or, really.
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I mean, that they think they're a dog or a cat.
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I do, but it's, for me, it's not, like, sexual-ish.
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Like, people will see it and they go, oh, ha ha.
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But, like, the guy you're doing it to is being sexually gratified, right?
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I've seen the guys actually do have fun, but I've never seen, like, a boner or something.
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But you acknowledge that these, it's a sexual fetish.
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Yeah, but I think, I think they mostly don't show it around me.
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I think they go home and they're like, yeah, I really enjoyed that.
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Oh, I just said I've never had, like, they never moan or anything.
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Yeah, they can wear a mask if they want, if they, like, want to be anonymous.
00:24:50.720
And so you'll walk them down the street, like, a public street?
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I don't do public streets often, but I have before.
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So, in the BDSM community, it's, you're not supposed to involve strangers in your kink, in your fetish.
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So, like, you're kind of, you shouldn't be doing that shit in public.
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What do you feel about, like, the children that are, like, watching you walk a dog?
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Because, like, BDSM, it's all on the framework of consent.
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And so, if you're going into public, the people who are, like, observing you, engaging your, like, cuck or whatever.
00:25:47.560
I don't know how you would describe these guys who do this shit.
00:25:50.540
How you would describe their, like, it's part of their fetish, their sexual fetish.
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So, they're being sexually gratified in public.
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Like, kind of a big no-no in BDSM to be doing that shit in public.
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Probably should, you know, there's children out in public.
00:26:09.080
And even if it's adults witnessing it, I don't think you should do that in public.
00:26:17.880
And, I don't know, they're not naked or anything.
00:26:20.280
Well, yeah, I mean, absent even nudity, I still don't think people should be doing, like, BDSM displays in public.
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Because they're not, these strangers aren't consenting to it.
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So, the question for the panel was, can you, when it comes to draining these men's money, is it crossing a threshold into taking advantage of somebody?
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So, when a woman makes more money and the guy doesn't have a job, and he's taking advantage of her money, and that's, I don't know, because she's consenting to it, but he's also.
00:27:14.360
No, but you talked about, like, taking advantage of a woman's money.
00:27:20.040
Did you have something that you wanted to jump in on?
00:27:23.560
So, first, on the performing in public, I noticed that you mentioned a lot about how it made you feel and how you felt about it, and it seemed like there wasn't a lot of consideration about how other people feel about it.
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So, I just would take that into account, because how you feel about it is one thing, but that choice is within your control.
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So, if you were uncomfortable with it, you would be able to not make that choice and do it privately.
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However, because you're doing it in public, other people don't have that choice.
00:27:50.200
As far as the Fendom thing, I would say there is a line where you cross, where it is taking advantage of someone that's vulnerable.
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I know that it's voluntary, but it's voluntary to a point, especially when people have these fetishes that become addiction-like.
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Similarly, to how you get a certain amount of plastic surgery, and doctors will refuse to operate on you for ethical reasons, because it's clear that some people get addicted or it's not good for their well-being.
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And additionally, you're not just considering the person, the man or whatever, who's consenting to doing these things, but that man may have a family.
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And so, not only are you putting, are you taking advantage of him being in a vulnerable position, but you're putting his family in a vulnerable position.
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And when you are bankrupted to that degree, it is very hard to come back from.
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And so, I just think that it's unethical to take it to that point.
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I get that you think it's funny, I get that you don't think it's that deep, but maybe as you grow up or widen your perspective a little bit and take others into account, you will realize that a lot of stuff is actually deep.
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Anybody else want to weigh in on the topic at hand?
00:29:12.120
I think we should bring back mental institutions and start fucking packing it in there.
00:29:25.200
Ronald Reagan defunded the, and now there's homeless people everywhere on the streets.
00:29:35.800
You know what, since we're on the topic, we have a segment kind of related to this.
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And then we'll get the rest of everybody's relationship status.
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Even if you don't have OnlyFans, maybe you've had the experience of a guy just sending you money
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or buying you, getting you an Uber, buying you gifts, just sending you money just because
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This is a bucket list, just a little funsy thing you can do just to say you did it.
00:31:06.580
You have to be like, give me the cash now, kitty.
00:31:12.280
It's been my nickname for, like, ever, so it's kind of what I go by.
00:31:53.940
That would have been funny, but I wouldn't have understood you.
00:32:04.680
I want you to get up out of your chair right now.
00:32:11.240
You need to start crying on your way over there.
00:32:56.440
Let's continue on with the relationship status.
00:33:25.060
I kind of like ran away from Florida to get away from him because he's a little crazy.
00:33:41.440
And then I do have a question about the exotropia or the lazy eye.
00:33:52.040
I have a twin brother and he stole some of my money and wouldn't give it back.
00:33:56.160
So I, you know, shoved him and he just knocked me out, yeah.
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I am signed with like a modeling agency and they've like tried having me go and see if
00:34:52.060
I can get a surgery and I've had three doctors not recommend it.
00:34:55.740
It's not definitive for one and every time they do it to straighten it out, I could lose
00:35:38.060
What's it called when you like distance yourself from like a estranged?
00:35:49.180
Like when I see him, it's like at family shit, you know?
00:36:11.940
Look, people shouldn't put their hands on anybody, but...
00:36:28.060
So, I mean, as somebody who doesn't honestly give a fuck about dating, I don't...
00:36:34.740
I honestly am the one that lets down more men than I get let down.
00:36:42.740
I actually think it could be a positive for like an autistic guy.
00:36:54.840
But I think like because autistic men, like eye contact...
00:37:12.840
...girls just be like looking at you during sex.
00:37:21.060
Can I just cover your face with like my t-shirt or something?
00:37:27.300
Like I feel like it'd be less if you were looking at me.
00:37:38.000
No, but it's just like sometimes she's just looking at me.
00:37:59.860
We talked before the show and she totally cleared this convo.
00:38:04.280
Because it kind of looks like you're looking at her.
00:39:04.580
Like you got to take one of his balls or something.
00:39:29.020
And is that the one that ended two to three years ago?
00:39:39.360
It was after the breakup, but the reason that we ended things was because he found out I was a stripper.
00:39:55.980
Um, we would, like, break up, get back together, break up, get back together.
00:40:02.560
He actually called the cops on me one time and then, like, got really close with my grandma and my mom went through my grandma's phone and found out she was, like, texting him under, like, a broken heart emoji.
00:40:27.180
I think it was a little bit of both, both ways.
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He had mommy issues and my grandma has issues as well.
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And my parents didn't want us together anymore because he was abusive and I, like, told him about it.
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But my grandma would let us hang out together at her house.
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So I'd, like, go to her house to, like, hang out with my boyfriend on the couch.
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And then I broke up with him because things were bad.
00:40:54.640
I guess grandma and him kept hanging out, though.
00:40:59.480
So when, on one of the weeks that we weren't together, I decided to go to the club and audition.
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And then the next week when we were back together, he told me that his dog needed surgery.
00:41:11.760
So I offered to pay for the surgery because I loved his dog.
00:41:14.960
And he was, like, how do you have so much money?
00:41:19.100
And then he wanted nothing to do with me after that.
00:41:31.100
And as soon as he found out I started stripping, he wanted nothing to do with me.
00:41:40.160
I have been in a relationship for two years now.
00:41:57.560
So, we were actually best friends for, I would say, three years almost.
00:42:05.960
We actually met in March or February of 2022, if I'm not mistaken.
00:42:25.200
But we didn't think that the other reciprocated the same feelings.
00:42:28.740
And then, one day, we just confessed it at the same time.
00:42:34.820
And he asked me to be his girlfriend ten days later.
00:42:58.200
No, but I didn't speak English until I was about almost seven years old due to me going to Russian daycares, preschools, and kindergarten when I was younger.
00:43:12.380
And remind me, you're from California or where are you from?
00:43:18.960
Do you have Russian citizenship or Ukrainian citizenship?
00:43:23.100
But are your parents there, did they first-generation immigrants?
00:43:37.220
My mom left around the same time from Kiev, Ukraine.
00:43:53.240
And this boyfriend of yours, you said only boyfriend, first boyfriend?
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I have had little, like, situations in the past, but nothing I would really consider a boyfriend.
00:44:03.660
Maybe on the other person's end, but definitely not mine.
00:44:14.260
I mean, I tried to date in college, but it was not successful.
00:44:21.700
Have you ever, well, you've had a boyfriend, though?
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Yeah, towards the end of him, he was graduating, but he was really controlling and, like, would
00:44:49.000
Yeah, I'd act, like, silly or goofy or do something cringey and say I was embarrassing.
00:44:57.660
So, in that six, and you said you tried to date in college.
00:45:02.940
So, like, would you hook up with guys, but it wouldn't go further, kind of, or?
00:45:27.960
I probably should have, no, I should have spread it out.
00:45:30.200
I was on the track team and I did too much track, guys.
00:45:38.320
What about, uh, well, track and field encompasses a lot of different events, you know.
00:46:18.080
They weren't, they didn't really go out that much.
00:46:21.020
So the, you just fucking ran through these track dudes.
00:46:39.360
Well, there's rugby, I don't, I mean, I'm assuming it was rugby union if it was played in the U.S.
00:46:43.700
But there's rugby union, rugby league, rugby sevens.
00:47:11.540
Here, I'm gonna, I have more questions, but we have a TTS coming in.
00:47:18.200
Therefore, we'll share her intimate parts to random degenerate men for money, but her age
00:47:36.220
It's kind of, you know, what this, you said you stripped, right?
00:47:40.720
It's like they don't share their real name, you know, but they'll show you their hoo-ha.
00:47:47.780
Most people, their age is more public and not their body parts, but because my body parts
00:48:10.080
He sent in the Super Chat, so we'll pull that up in a moment.
00:48:16.560
Um, so I started OnlyFans my senior year, so unfortunately...
00:48:24.660
Someone hacked my Snapchat and leaked me all over, like, these forums and these revenge
00:48:28.900
porn pages, and I was really broke in college, working minimum wage on the weekend while also
00:48:35.880
I'm going to try OnlyFans, see if I make a little bit of alcohol money, and the rest has
00:48:41.860
And, uh, so you've been doing OF for how long again?
00:49:14.500
I just feel like, I don't know, people are crazy.
00:49:18.280
They have birthed this bad, my social's been hacked, like...
00:49:24.300
Uh, okay, so, uh, single for six years, but, you know, what's the longest period of time
00:49:33.280
in the past six years that you've seen a guy, even if it's all casual, off and on, longest
00:49:44.920
Um, because you said you've been single, right?
00:49:59.200
Have you, uh, called any of these guys who you've seen in the past six years your boyfriend?
00:51:11.740
Yeah, I am in a relationship with, um, planning engagement for within the year.
00:51:20.080
We've discussed marriage and we're planning on getting engaged within the year and married
00:51:26.400
Um, surprisingly only four months, but it was like a love at first sight kind of crazy
00:51:46.540
Already planning the, do you have any kids with anybody?
00:52:03.960
Also, would Kitty let herself get walked like a dog by a 5'3 Mexican guy?
00:52:22.580
But, um, no, because my knees hurt if I'm on my knees.
00:52:41.260
Alex stands out like a sore thumb on the panel, but I've never wanted to be a Band-Aid so bad.
00:52:47.320
I need a selfie while you're still in L.A., bro.
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As someone who only dates women with large labia, this is an important issue for me.
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Like sometimes I cry at night thinking about it.
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But these women, they're chopping off their labia.
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All that other shit is to distract you from this problem.
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But, you know, it just grinds my gears, you know?
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If you go like down on a girl and you see that she has like a small labia, you're like, no, absolutely not.
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But yeah, I almost exclusively only date women with large labia.
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He said labiaplasty should be government-issued.
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Any women here ever been shamed for having a large labia?
00:57:42.840
No, but when I was growing up, it was like a big thing.
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Not like me, obviously, but it was just like, oh, I bet she's got a fucking moose knuckle
00:57:58.880
on her, or she's got a sandwich roast beef pussy down there.
00:58:12.720
I mean, obviously, my coochie wasn't, you know, on display, of course, in middle school.
00:58:18.500
But it was just like, people would talk about it quite often for some reason.
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I feel like in middle schools, when everyone just learns that other people have different
00:58:26.160
body parts, and they're so excited, but they don't have anything valuable to say
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So then I'd be like, oh, my God, does that mean I have a roast beef pussy?
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Like, it was a shameful thing to have a vagina.
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I don't know how we got there, but there's a fucking mosquito or something harassing us.
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You need to already be living in Santa Barbara if you want to do that.
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Consent governs private BDSM, and discretion governs public space.
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When both are respected, there's no legal or ethical conflict, just adults exercising autonomy responsibly.
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I agree with you that legally, yeah, you can walk someone on a leash in public.
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I do actually think that there is an ethical component to it.
01:01:51.080
I mean, the BDSM community itself would typically...
01:01:57.000
I think typically is not in favor of, like, public displays of that sort, so...
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It depends on who you're asking, because, like, I feel like there's definitely two kinds of BDSM community.
01:02:19.320
Like, there's, you know, the BBC cuckold community that's BDSM as well, and they are definitely down to do shit in public.
01:02:30.100
Well, I mean, obviously, I don't think there's one centralized governing body of what is or isn't acceptable in BDSM.
01:02:38.800
Like, I personally, like, I've been in Fendom in my past.
01:02:47.100
I genuinely think it's morally wrong, in my opinion, because if you have other people that don't want to see that around you, how do you know if they don't want to see that you don't?
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I don't know if that's a good sign or a bad sign for tonight.
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That just means they're probably on testosterone.
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I feel like a lot of people with big labias are probably on testosterone.
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I thought we were talking about testosterone, Coochie.
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I mean, I think it can have an impact on the lips too, but it's more so the clit.
01:04:55.680
You might be messing around with something you might not want to get into.
01:05:03.360
It sounds like you're trying to say that you're attracted to men and that's okay.
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I'm just trying to prove his point of he might be attracted to men with a big clit.
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You know, I'm just trying to gauge where we're at.
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Why are you getting so red and nervous all of a sudden?
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Just because we're talking about big old clits and labias.
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I feel like if you're trans, it's not going to be an Audi.
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It's a dick and balls shoved inside of your fucking...
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Like, and when you're a baby and you switch, everyone starts out as female or one of the
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Like, when you're, like, in your mother's stomach as a baby...
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I think everyone starts out as female, and then it literally grows out.
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The vaginal opening is the same as, like, the penis.
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It's not just because it's a penis or a vagina.
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Well, because you guys are, like, it's the same thing.
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Actually, I believe you said it's not the same thing.
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Whatever the trans people are doing, that's not pussy.
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Even if it felt like pussy, looked like pussy, it ain't pussy.
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Tastes like piss and who knows what else is leaking extremities.
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Although, I wonder in the future, I could see if there's, like, some crazy transhumanism shit.
01:08:48.560
Like, people could genuinely change their entire biology.
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I suppose it'd be possible in the future with, like, super advanced technology.
01:09:12.420
Once the trainees start getting uteruses and they start giving birth, I'm giving up.
01:09:23.880
Like, even if you were to transplant a uterus into a man, I don't think...
01:09:31.080
Well, maybe one day there's, like, advancements or some shit, but...
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You said that you side with sex workers, and you don't really like alpha males.
01:10:11.260
Why don't we just do the alpha male one thing first?
01:10:18.160
I just felt like whenever I watched a podcast like this...
01:10:20.680
I didn't really do my research, but it seems like a lot of guys, like your audience,
01:10:37.940
Some people want to do a straw man and, like, paint you, oh, it's an alpha bro podcast.
01:10:42.400
But I never really talk about the alpha beta thing.
01:10:46.220
It's super cringe to refer to yourself as, oh, I'm an alpha male.
01:10:52.460
Typically, you'll have opposition want to use that as an effective label, so it's easier
01:10:57.260
to try to, like, slap on an identity, slap on a label, so they can kind of dismiss you.
01:11:06.880
And also, the study that that's drawn from, where they were looking at wolves, alpha wolf,
01:11:14.460
beta wolf, it's actually, like, the study or something was pretty much bullshit, essentially.
01:11:21.420
So, it's flawed in its inception of the idea of what that is.
01:11:31.560
Yeah, it's basically what you explained, but you did kind of clear it up for me that you
01:11:36.020
don't, like, really refer to yourself as alpha male or something.
01:11:44.520
Yeah, I only did it based on, like, the comments and stuff, so that's what I assumed.
01:11:56.800
Andrew Tate, Donald Trump, who's an alpha male?
01:11:59.360
Yeah, probably them, or, like, they'll, like...
01:12:04.820
I don't like when they really show off, like...
01:12:09.120
It's not coming to my mind at the moment, but they're trying to...
01:12:11.480
You mean, like, they're flexing their cars or whatever?
01:12:14.500
They're trying to preach something, but even though it's materialism, they like to say,
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like, oh, I'm alpha male because I have these cars, I have this money.
01:12:31.380
I think you don't really side with OnlyFans and sex workers.
01:12:39.760
I don't hate people who do OnlyFans, but, yeah, I have issues.
01:12:46.780
I don't like when people really talk a lot of smack about them.
01:12:50.160
But I do understand a lot of issues that people have with it.
01:12:57.040
I can't explain what issues, but I'm sure, like, maybe the two of you or three of you
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It's not really coming to my mind at the moment.
01:13:08.000
So, just show of hands, just to reestablish for the audience, show of hands, who here
01:13:16.160
Normally, we actually only have one, two, or three of it.
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Kind of disproportionate panel tonight, which is fine.
01:13:25.200
And then, who here has done other forms of sex work?
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We can't show it, but do you recall what it said?
01:14:03.980
I don't remember what it said, but it was probably when my ex ran my account, and he
01:14:29.040
I basically wanted a train to get ran on me by a bunch of BBC men.
01:14:35.620
You wanted to get filled up by every black man on the blacked roster.
01:14:47.160
I actually am planning like a 25 to 30 man gangbang for that.
01:15:03.200
It's a typical birthday party for a woman nowadays.
01:15:11.100
Was that a sigh of like, oh my goodness, or was it like a dang?
01:15:21.860
Now, I imagine even if I ask the following question, you guys aren't going to even give
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Now, part of the way women make money on OnlyFans is through messaging.
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The guys message you, and you make money through the messaging back and forth or whatever.
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I only get to a message probably twice a day, if that.
01:16:11.760
You'd be surprised at how many people don't want to talk.
01:16:19.820
Whereas some people are just, like, not comfortable and it feels too personal to them, I've found
01:16:26.520
So, the reason I ask this question, and even if you did have a management company or you
01:16:30.160
had a typer or a chatter, maybe you, well, at least the typer chatter, I don't think
01:16:36.280
Even if you did have one, some of you might admit to having a management company.
01:16:41.740
So, I think, for example, defense of nude content, I think that there can, I can make
01:16:48.960
arguments against it, but I think there's also can be strong arguments in favor of producing
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I'm going to actually go ahead and push that completely to the side because I feel like
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it's, I can make arguments against it, but it's, can be defensible in some ways.
01:17:08.700
I think, I mean, if it got banned, like, tomorrow, I probably wouldn't give a shit.
01:17:13.240
Like, if I was like, oh, well, oh, I don't have to do that.
01:17:16.660
Now, however, the reason I asked about your typers and chatters, now we're talking about
01:17:23.060
something that I don't think anyone can really defend, which would be what I would categorize
01:17:33.860
Now, so what a lot of these OnlyFans girls are doing, and I'm not saying that you guys
01:17:40.580
Now, when you're advertising on your OnlyFans saying, chat, chat with me, I'm the only, I'm
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the one running the account, you're talking to me.
01:17:49.640
Some of you offer the girlfriend experience where they're in, when you're offering the
01:17:55.720
girlfriend experience, you're perhaps offering the hope of something more developing and then
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And I think there's also a component, there's two components here.
01:18:10.040
There's a component of the girlfriend experience, but under no circumstance, let's be honest,
01:18:16.000
would you ever fuck or date the men who you are offering the girlfriend experience to?
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But you're doing it because once these men build a degree of connection with you, even
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if it's parasocial, you can siphon a lot of money once they have become romantically invested.
01:18:40.040
Even if you have zero romantic interest in them.
01:18:44.140
So that's a degree of fraud and deception, which I find objectionable.
01:18:49.000
And then the other thing is just, if you have a management company, you have some fucking
01:18:52.500
person, I guess now it's probably AI, maybe, I don't know.
01:18:55.320
But before like AI kind of came about, these women would just have some dude in fucking
01:19:01.540
Singapore, maybe not Singapore, fucking Vietnam, Thailand, typing, chatting for you and pretending
01:19:15.920
You know, if you're advertising it as it's me you're talking to, but it's actually some
01:19:20.880
type or chatter or the type or chatter is portraying themselves to be you absent a disclosure.
01:19:27.420
I'm actually surprised there hasn't been lawsuits on this.
01:19:30.600
I mean, the women are, they're basically committing fraud and OnlyFans turns a blind eye to it.
01:19:48.800
Um, I talk to like a lot of people on my messages, but I do see where you're coming from, from
01:19:54.520
That's kind of why I didn't want to get a management for the first three years of it.
01:20:02.540
It's more like our manager kind of helps us, you know, make our comedy reels and stuff like
01:20:07.240
And then, you know, my OnlyFans, I still go live on my OnlyFans.
01:20:20.740
And look, even if asked, I don't think you guys would admit to it because it would be
01:20:24.800
contrary to what you're trying to do, which is maximize profit and make as much money as
01:20:29.880
If the guy that you're typing with knows that he's typing with some like five, four Filipino
01:20:35.520
man or some shit, he's like, that's going to break the, the dynamic there.
01:20:46.920
Like if you're some of these like top tier OnlyFans girls, how do you not, like, of course
01:20:56.260
I mean, I think that's less obvious than like the AI models that you see on Instagram
01:21:02.020
And people can't even tell that it's AI sometimes.
01:21:05.680
Hey, the AI girls are coming for, they're coming for all our jobs.
01:21:11.200
So, I mean, uh, yeah, I mean, I would argue probably the, the AI people who are, well,
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if the AI creators are representing it as a real person, which I think they are, then
01:21:25.360
I would, I would make the same argument that you're, uh, does there need to be a disclosure?
01:21:30.740
I mean, there doesn't need, legally need to be a disclosure that it's AI.
01:21:40.440
OF doesn't allow, cause you need a real identity.
01:21:44.260
And even, sorry, on Instagram, there has to be like a label.
01:21:48.180
You're like legally required to disclose if something's AI, but a lot of people don't
01:21:56.820
So that, I mean, that's one, that's one of my arguments, uh, I guess my objections
01:22:03.240
I don't think, uh, I don't hate or I don't hate OnlyFans girls, but I think there are
01:22:14.260
I was just gonna say over time, maybe I would find something to disagree with.
01:22:23.680
Just to kind of like go off of what you were saying.
01:22:27.520
Like people will always abuse something like drinking.
01:22:35.620
And small amounts, but there are some people that abuse alcohol and become alcoholics and
01:22:58.960
But I think my, my next argument would be, uh, STD risk.
01:23:04.380
So that would be for the sex worker themselves.
01:23:07.800
Um, if you're doing mainstream content, pretty high risk of STDs.
01:23:16.540
I have a lot of friends or them and they get tested almost every like, what is it?
01:23:21.660
So since I'm a professional model signed with an agency, I actually have to get past certified
01:23:33.660
If you have to get testing every time, most guys never get tested.
01:23:37.100
STDs are more common with the regular population than they are with sex workers.
01:23:42.760
Now let's make sure when we use the term full panel, we're being precise in what we're talking
01:23:48.800
Your full, your supposed full panel STD test, does it test for herpes and HPV?
01:23:56.360
My understanding, even mainstream, uh, porn people, they don't test for herpes.
01:24:04.540
Do you want to show me your most recent test and I can review it?
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Cause like genuinely, I can't remember if it says herpes or not.
01:24:13.720
Cause I know it tests for MGen and I know when I was pregnant, it, they, the full panel
01:24:18.960
they gave me was blood drawn for your pregnancy, but I took blood.
01:24:23.380
But for people in the industry, they don't test herpes.
01:24:30.180
The reason they don't check for herpes and HPV is because if they were testing mainstream
01:24:37.380
people, right, maybe even non-mainstream, whatever, they're going to, they're going to hit for
01:24:48.020
I actually do know a few people in the industry who they keep it like non-disclosed, but like
01:24:54.320
somehow, yeah, there is a pill you can take as well.
01:25:00.040
Also herpes is only spread when there's open source and there's a lot of like, you can be
01:25:05.760
So it can be like just the teeniest, like right before it's about to have a, you have
01:25:10.940
an outbreak, it could, uh, you know, like you think it's a pimple and it's not kind
01:25:16.960
Well, I mean, it could be even like, I don't know if microscopic would be the right term,
01:25:21.640
but I mean, if you think about something developing, it has to start at a really small,
01:25:28.900
I mean, I, would you have sex with, Oh, I mean, I don't know your herpes status or whatever,
01:25:33.180
but like, would you have sex with somebody who has a non-open herpes sore?
01:25:38.600
No, but that's like, like, you're going to take that risk.
01:25:41.280
Oh, well, I guess I don't mean non-open, but like if you have any, so is that what you're
01:25:48.020
Well, I mean, there's HSV one, HSV two, and then you would have, uh, oral herpes, genital
01:26:12.780
I assume it's probably a lot less likely if you're working with a management company,
01:26:19.040
Um, how, how common is like, how do you, how often do they get tested?
01:26:30.000
Like can people that aren't working with these companies like produce fraudulent tests?
01:26:36.040
So yes, I have like, I have definitely not me experienced, but I've, you know, being on
01:26:40.660
Twitter, having a hundred thousand followers, you see other people go through kind of horror
01:26:45.760
I've never gone through something like that, but I have heard of people kind of faking their
01:26:49.640
tests and they basically put it on chat GPT or whatever, and kind of just edit it out.
01:26:59.060
If you use talent testing services or clear, or there's another one pro 13, um, it's all
01:27:05.660
So usually what that means is like, it is a full panel from my understanding.
01:27:10.100
It has tested me for herpes in the past, but I don't want to say it has and me be wrong.
01:27:19.560
Like, I feel like if you have that knowledge going in, but my mind immediately went to an
01:27:25.120
18 year old, who's not super familiar, who's working on her own.
01:27:31.360
And there's definitely, and it is one of those things like, like even in the past,
01:27:35.480
I've been asked, would you recommend, you know, this industry for anyone?
01:27:42.480
I heard that talent testing doesn't test for HSV because it is so common and I don't
01:28:02.680
But I also go to the gynecologist once a month to stay safe.
01:28:07.760
I mean, you kind of have, I feel like when you were in the industry and you know what
01:28:11.020
you're putting yourself into, you kind of have to like be safe or be gross, you know?
01:28:17.000
If you guys had, um, a job presented to you that was not in the porn industry or OnlyFans
01:28:24.420
or anything like that, um, and you were just given a job, equal pay, everything, would
01:28:30.820
you still want to be in porn or would you, do you feel like you have to do it or would,
01:28:38.140
would you just take the job that isn't porn and do a regular job?
01:28:45.920
Oh, well, if I could do just stand up all the time, I would, that'd be sick.
01:29:03.900
But I want to at least get enough money raked up to pay for my son's college because I didn't
01:29:08.460
have the opportunity to have my college paid for.
01:29:10.500
And that's the one thing that I'm after is to rake up enough money to have my son's college
01:29:18.740
And after that, you know, hopefully I can just do stand up full time or have a different job.
01:29:23.960
I don't really, I'm not really necessarily in the porn community and I wouldn't categorize
01:29:29.980
I mean, obviously I have an OnlyFans, but I don't do collabs.
01:29:32.680
It's just me, myself and I, and I don't really promote it.
01:29:36.400
Everything that's promoted is a link in a bio and there you go.
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Here's, you know, because it's, you know, there's hardly any work to do.
01:29:50.360
But what if you still had the freedom from just a regular job?
01:29:53.960
Like if I said, here you go, here's a job, equal pay, and you get all the freedom.
01:30:00.880
Honestly, genuinely, like it, I have had that before, but it wasn't like if I were, it wasn't
01:30:06.940
So I don't know if I actually got presented a job that I wanted.
01:30:16.440
Um, I'm really creative and I, I express that in my videos and I like, because a lot of
01:30:21.900
people think that OnlyFans is just like the porn aspect when it's not like it's content
01:30:32.340
Um, and I really enjoy that and it pays really well.
01:30:53.180
I started a business with someone, a friend and it, it failed.
01:31:00.560
Um, and it was just a little unfair the way I was treated.
01:31:08.600
Um, and I said, I wanted to step away from the company and it ended very, very badly with
01:31:13.780
they wanted to take the film basically and leave me with what was left in our bank account,
01:31:19.160
like our shared bank account and kind of screw me over.
01:31:21.560
They hired a lawyer, tried to like fight me with it.
01:31:36.520
I should have read this before I let it come clear about.
01:31:48.080
Yeah, she forgot the, she, she omitted the most important thing.
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I should, you're going to have to send another one, Kiwi.
01:31:58.780
Brooklyn, you were saying something, right, Brooklyn?
01:32:02.860
I should, you know what would be really interesting?
01:32:04.780
By the way, Kiwi, thank you very much for your TTS.
01:32:07.620
I actually do have a girlfriend application that's like really autistic.
01:32:11.820
And I should fucking, it can't be tonight because I gotta, I'd have to review it.
01:32:25.960
Sure, I'll send you, I'll send all of you the girlfriend application.
01:32:37.760
The only, the OnlyFans girls are single at the table.
01:32:51.680
For the, for the memes, I'll, I'll send all of you the girlfriend application and see
01:32:56.020
where you guys, okay, if you, if you like stack up, imagine you're on a date with us.
01:33:32.280
What would I rate the date that hasn't happened yet?
01:33:37.580
I feel like, okay, if I was on a date with you the entire time, you'd be like, can I
01:33:47.140
It'd be, it'd be a bit, uh, probably a bit strange.
01:33:54.500
I don't, I don't know, but you said date with all of you.
01:34:00.800
I meant like, that would actually, do you think that would fly if like say either gender, but
01:34:12.200
Maybe you should tell them ahead of time and it's a multi-person date, but like, it's
01:34:23.680
It's like one girl, five guys, one guy, five girls.
01:34:34.140
I don't have time to take all five of you on individual dates.
01:34:47.900
Where I, I have the girls and it's actually, I'm trying to date them or something.
01:34:54.000
Well, or even just to be a one-on-one, like a one-on-one, but I stream it.
01:34:58.340
I'm surprised you still have hope to even do that.
01:35:01.640
Oh, I'm pretty blackpilled, but to even do what?
01:35:07.800
To even be willing to, the time, the time of day.
01:35:11.520
Just, you've had so many women come through here on your show.
01:35:16.820
I'm just surprised that you're still willing to want to put yourself out there to give them the time.
01:35:28.880
Well, look, I mean, there's good women out there.
01:35:32.660
Hey, her man literally traumatized me for, like, I'm traumatized by your man.
01:35:37.700
And if you can, like, forgive him and find someone else, I'm pretty sure Brian can, too.
01:35:45.380
Has, like, the podcast affected your dating life at all?
01:35:53.140
Well, I guess, what are you kind of getting at?
01:35:56.460
I'm just wondering, because, like, I mean, like, my job affects my dating life, obviously.
01:36:04.480
So, I mean, in terms of dating prospects, the way I date has changed a little bit.
01:36:13.220
So, I mean, I'll still shoot my shot, but, and I have, I started the podcast four years
01:36:18.200
ago, but most of the women I've dated, they contact me.
01:36:22.180
So, I, my dating situation is completely divorced from the reality of, like, how most men experience
01:36:32.600
I'm basically just sourcing entirely from women who contact me, which is basically what
01:36:39.480
Even if you're, you could have a following of nothing, or you could be really super famous,
01:36:53.740
Uh, the other way is, you, you, you, you compared it a bit to OnlyFans.
01:37:05.840
So, when you have a controversial show like this, and you say retarded shit like I say,
01:37:10.780
yeah, it definitely closes the door for some women.
01:37:12.640
So, in the same way that when a criticism of OnlyFans girls is when you do this, when you're
01:37:17.600
involved in sex work, uh, that will close the door to you, to some men.
01:37:21.900
Like, some men, it's just 100% going to be a deal breaker.
01:37:25.520
Even if you quit it, they're going to be, like, not okay with it.
01:37:28.460
I'm not saying that you won't be able to find a boyfriend.
01:37:31.060
Most of the OnlyFans girls, well, not, I shouldn't say most, but a lot of, Mary, close the door,
01:37:36.160
Uh, a lot of OnlyFans girls who come on the show, they'll say they're single.
01:37:39.180
I'm not, I, sometimes after this, I'll ask questions like, off the record, what's, come on.
01:37:47.400
And, uh, and I would, I, I always keep it off the record, so I wouldn't actually say who,
01:37:52.820
but a lot of times they'll be like, oh yeah, I've been, I'm like engaged.
01:37:56.720
But they come on and unfortunately lie and say, oh, I've been single for blah, blah, blah.
01:38:01.480
So, um, I don't think OF girls are prevented from finding a boyfriend, but it does close the door for you.
01:38:09.540
So, uh, comparing it to my situation, sometimes we dive into political stuff on the show.
01:38:15.180
Um, obviously I have opinions that are probably not appreciated by a lot of normies.
01:38:27.660
Uh, well, I don't know if I, I have high expectations,
01:38:47.640
Bowed at, that's not, I wouldn't frame it exactly like that, but that is, yeah, that is something.
01:39:03.180
Well, I mean, if we're talking about the five, five love languages.
01:39:22.060
Like being beside each other, even if you're not doing anything.
01:39:37.960
I don't even consider watching a movie like quality time.
01:39:44.880
You're just kind of watching the same thing together.
01:39:54.240
And I really value connection, like, with the people I date.
01:40:03.680
Because kind of just laying around together doing nothing doesn't really progress or build a relationship.
01:40:27.040
He said something along the lines of, and I'm about to fucking butcher it.
01:40:29.700
So let me Google what he actually said before I fuck it up more than I already have.
01:40:42.940
While he's looking it up, I like playing, like, video games with another guy.
01:40:57.800
But if I'm cooking or, like, someone, like, he's on the couch, I feel like that's still
01:41:04.060
I feel like you shouldn't have to be speaking if you have a real connection.
01:41:09.880
You don't necessarily have to, but it's definitely more engaging in a relationship.
01:41:15.280
Like, there doesn't need to always be talk, but I wouldn't consider that quality time.
01:41:25.480
Like, I am way more of an introvert, as is my boyfriend.
01:41:29.520
And we both have, like, a million hobbies, a million things we like to do.
01:41:32.900
And we can be doing different tasks or different activities, but in the same room.
01:41:37.780
And I think the difference is whether or not you are, you know, taking breaks to engage
01:41:46.540
I'll be sitting and crocheting, like, a little basket for it.
01:41:49.580
And I'm just adoring him, watching him fix up a truck.
01:41:52.740
He's adoring me just kind of sitting and crocheting.
01:41:57.140
And so, I don't think you always have to be talking.
01:42:00.700
And I don't think you always have to be experiencing the same activity as long as there's a difference
01:42:07.680
in your perception of, you know, that when you're together and doing that activity when
01:42:13.220
And even the topics, the conversation that are shared can also in some way be a shared
01:42:18.040
experience when talking about new things or getting to know each other in some way,
01:42:24.740
Like, if you watch a movie together, you know, it might not be considered quality time.
01:42:29.120
But if you sit after and, like, talk about the movie and, like, treat it as, like, a
01:42:32.380
true piece of, like, media consumption versus just kind of zoning out, then that's when it
01:42:36.460
becomes quality is the intentionality behind it.
01:42:40.300
I found the quote, men want to be alone, but we don't want to be by ourselves.
01:42:46.220
So, it's kind of nice, like, you know, if the girl's, like, around the corner.
01:42:50.760
Like, she's there, but, like, in the kitchen or something.
01:43:05.460
Like, yeah, like, she always wants to hang out with you, always wants to sit next to you.
01:43:12.740
That you have to be engaged every moment that you're together, and when you're not together,
01:43:20.880
I mean, I think it's good for a woman to be obsessed with you, but she needs, that needs
01:43:26.840
to be, like, an internal thing that she copes with.
01:43:33.080
I don't want it to be encroaching on my autonomy and my, too much of my time.
01:43:43.780
Like, she gets jealous easily, but, like, won't let you know when she's jealous, because
01:43:47.740
she knows that maybe she shouldn't be jealous at times.
01:44:00.820
Well, that's kind of weird, but I've heard girls say that, though.
01:44:04.100
They get all upset at you because you cheated in the dream.
01:44:07.580
It's like, shit, I couldn't, what was I supposed to do?
01:44:14.360
And that's what you guys have to apologize for.
01:44:30.400
Yeah, I don't know about quality time, to be honest.
01:44:35.660
I think quality time is just time together that, to me, it's quality.
01:44:41.820
So, it doesn't matter if you're, like, caught up in whatever you're doing, as long as, like, the energy isn't bad.
01:44:53.720
Yeah, we're having some quality time right now.
01:44:56.020
I think a more general explanation of it, in my personal opinion, is just enjoying each other's presence, you know?
01:45:04.320
Yeah, I guess you wouldn't enjoy it if the vibes are bad.
01:45:08.020
But, yeah, the other four love languages, physical touch, words of affirmation, gift giving, acts of service, yes to all those.
01:45:37.160
Don't men like being, like, acts of service for women, too?
01:45:42.880
I like to be as useless as possible for a woman.
01:45:47.900
Just to get a little temperature check, you know?
01:46:12.920
The only, by the way, shout out to, uh, shout out to you.
01:46:28.000
The trick is to, uh, swap one quarter of your flour with oats, and then extra brown sugar,
01:46:35.800
I should be demanding all the women to come on the show to bring me some sort of food item.
01:46:48.020
Very rarely the women will bring a gift, and it's very upsetting to me.
01:46:51.180
I was pissed off at all of you for not bringing a gift.
01:47:00.300
Oh, yeah, we're talking about the girlfriend application.
01:47:01.880
You were asking me, okay, Brian, with the podcast, has it impacted dating?
01:47:12.280
I wouldn't consider myself a radical, unlike chair one over here.
01:47:17.280
But wouldn't that be more beneficial for you, because you would like your partner to have
01:47:20.940
the same views as you, for them to know your...
01:47:24.980
I obviously would want to, uh, be with somebody where there's an alignment of values, but
01:47:31.740
I think that, um, obviously, I think even for maybe people who...
01:47:38.160
It's going to close the door for some people just because they don't want to, uh, what's
01:47:46.980
Like, if you're doing online shit, like, I get death threats.
01:48:02.980
Like, so then it's like, okay, they're going to do some fucking...
01:48:08.760
Yeah, someone did tell me to kill myself in the street today.
01:48:16.400
I mean, I'm very private with my, uh, dating life, but, uh, there's still, it can still
01:48:23.040
have some degree of impact and, uh, but yeah, no, it's, it's closed the door, I'd say, for
01:48:32.320
Like before, you know, back before I started the podcast, I was, and I actually have become
01:48:38.780
Uh, I don't, I don't think I'm too crazy with it, depends on who you ask, but before I started
01:48:44.780
the podcast, I considered myself a bit more moderate and, you know, trying to date in Southern
01:48:54.520
If you want pussy, you got to hide some, you got to hide a little bit of your political
01:49:04.080
Uh, you know, you got, look, I'm not trying to be fucking celibate here.
01:49:15.040
Look, I've had some bad dating experiences with some liberal women.
01:49:21.700
You know, one time I brought a bottle, not this one exactly, but literally, I'm not even
01:49:29.800
The girl torpedoed the date because I, I brought a plastic water ball to the date.
01:49:35.540
She was like, that's really environmentally, uh, inappropriate or I don't know what the
01:49:44.240
And then I argued with her for 10 minutes and then, yeah, that didn't go well.
01:49:48.040
And then one time, oh, uh, a girl I was seeing for a brief period, this was the summer of
01:49:57.480
I didn't post a black square and, uh, she, she, this girl I'd been seeing for, it was
01:50:17.500
I think the black square was very performative.
01:50:29.840
If I didn't do content, I probably wouldn't even have an Instagram to be honest.
01:50:41.960
You got some funny, can you, can you lay on the accent a little thicker for us?
01:50:50.420
How do you want me to, what do you want me to say?
01:51:05.840
I got a, I got a spit bucket right here for you, Bob.
01:51:13.960
No, you got a, I got a handmade one someone sent me.
01:51:16.640
You got to make sure that you put a napkin in it so it's not all, you know.
01:51:23.920
I should, uh, I should, uh, I should next show, Mary, remind me, I'll, I'll, uh, show my girlfriend
01:51:31.140
It's like, I've had, I've had some girls DM me and I send that shit and they're like,
01:51:42.360
Well, like what are the three weirdest criteria from it?
01:51:53.120
It's just very, um, here, let me see if I can pull something up.
01:52:05.740
Do you guys approach the guy or you wait to wait for the guy to approach you?
01:52:10.140
I don't care if he's, if he's got a mustache and blonde hair and just know I'm on it.
01:52:17.820
I give the signals, but I like to be approached.
01:52:21.760
I would typically kind of just wait for them to come to me.
01:52:30.160
Cause if it's a dude that's coming up to me, I'm like, I like it if a girl makes the
01:52:40.140
And if they don't make a move, then I'll make a move.
01:52:45.040
If I feel like there's an attraction there, maybe a hesitancy or nervousness.
01:52:49.640
And like kind of, then sometimes you have to give a more like, you know, straightforward
01:52:53.480
green flag and then they feel more comfortable.
01:52:55.860
But I need some sort of like a signal or something for the other person or else.
01:53:07.560
One of the questions I ask, because when we went around the table, everybody here said
01:53:12.860
they're single or not everybody, but some of you said you're single.
01:53:16.220
Now, what in 2026 does it even mean to be single?
01:53:20.760
Because if you ask somebody if they're single 20 years ago for, as an example, uh, that meant
01:53:26.860
like they're single, they're not fucking somebody.
01:53:34.920
Now you could ask somebody if they're single and they could be having sex with three other
01:53:40.580
people, have a roster, be on a dating app, have 300 matches.
01:53:45.320
So what does it actually mean in 2026 to be single?
01:53:56.400
So I think the question you have to ask, this is what you need to ask.
01:53:59.460
You can't just ask somebody if they're single and I'll read it.
01:54:02.360
Are you currently talking to dating parentheses?
01:54:05.940
This would include casual hangouts, seeing involved with, or maintaining contact with any
01:54:13.160
other men in any capacity, whether casually or seriously, online or in person, including,
01:54:19.720
but not limited to, texts, DMs, dating apps, or social media.
01:54:27.920
Because you ask somebody if they're single, it's like, they got their guts rearranged last
01:54:34.660
What makes me even more mad too is like, you think that you're going steady with someone.
01:54:54.540
So like, you think you're going steady with someone and then you find out that they're
01:55:07.760
Well, it happened to me one time when I worked at Taco Bell, but it was my manager, he was
01:55:13.400
And then another girl I worked with and I found out and we were all working together.
01:55:23.220
Early on in high school, he wasn't really my boyfriend or anything like that, but I had
01:55:29.260
kind of mentioned this, um, when questions were sent over.
01:55:33.860
Um, there was a man that at first super normal, um, turned out to be very crazy, but to sum
01:55:44.380
We were involved for, I would say like a couple months, found out he had a girlfriend of over
01:55:51.720
And then a couple months later, um, him and my closest friend at the time for like three
01:56:01.720
So, I mean, I totally agree with all of these other questions do definitely have to be asked
01:56:13.620
So for me personally, I feel like I've never been able to date or like have interest in
01:56:22.200
It seems like a lot of work and I have difficulty reducing like levels of intimacy or like balancing
01:56:32.320
Um, have any of you guys like had a roster or like experience that balance is, am I the
01:56:38.280
only one that that feels difficult to, cause it seems like a lot of people make it seem
01:56:44.980
To have a roster, like having, um, more than like, you know, people, whether you're talking
01:56:54.600
I honestly find that quite difficult for my personal perspective.
01:56:58.260
I mean, besides like at one point in my life texting like multiple people at a time,
01:57:02.880
I've never personally had multiple like physical relationships because it just goes against.
01:57:13.300
I feel like not only like with time management, with like energy management, but just to emotionally
01:57:20.540
kind of develop two different relationships simultaneously.
01:57:24.700
Like I feel like for, for some people, maybe they can make it work for other people.
01:57:28.640
Maybe they're trying to pretend that they're making it work.
01:57:31.040
Um, but I feel like someone's always missing out.
01:57:33.580
I would crack under like, I would crack eventually.
01:57:40.840
So, um, roster usually will refer to, um, a, someone having a couple people.
01:57:48.540
Sometimes, you know, some people will boast big rosters.
01:57:51.720
Um, some people might see it as like three where you flirt or engage with, with them in a romantic
01:57:57.680
or sexual nature, whether it's talking, whether it's sex itself, whether you just kind of,
01:58:03.420
you know, date and hang out, whatever, um, at the same time.
01:58:06.560
And, or it can be people that you can go to either for dates, sexual needs, sexual interaction,
01:58:14.260
or romantic interaction, um, over a period of time.
01:58:22.080
In my head, a roster is like people you're just having sex with.
01:58:26.580
I've heard some people where they're like, you know, that's what, what I think when I
01:58:29.620
hear roster, I'm thinking like, Oh, you have a roster lined up ready at your door.
01:58:39.940
Um, it wasn't necessarily like I wrote down names or anything, but it was just like on
01:58:43.660
the weekends I'd go out and then might hang out with this guy.
01:58:46.360
And then the next day might the other guy or I went crazy.
01:58:58.300
I, I feel like you maybe asked me something, but I don't remember.
01:59:01.560
I was asking your other standards, but I think.
01:59:32.100
Um, I'm trying to think what else are you on any medications?
01:59:43.820
But do you realize how insane that would be to like, I feel like if, if you were just
01:59:48.200
on a date with a girl that you met on a dating app to just ask those questions, you
01:59:59.620
You got to organically and just be like, so where are you coming from?
02:00:21.440
One of them was because she got pregnant, so I couldn't go to her anymore.
02:00:26.740
There's different therapists do different things, and she was-
02:00:39.060
I had a therapist try to hook up with me when I was younger, and he lost his business.
02:00:46.420
I mean, that's still wrong, even if you're an adult.
02:00:54.360
Because you're vulnerable with your therapist, so-
02:01:10.240
It gets sometimes a bad wreck because it's, like, oh, why are you in therapy?
02:01:13.680
But if you're using it correctly, then I feel like-
02:01:22.200
Okay, well, I have ADHD, and I have, like, trauma from my past abusive relationship as
02:01:39.480
I mean, I feel like there gets a point when you're in an abusive relationship where you
02:01:42.240
kind of, like, become a product of your environment, and, you know, you fight back a little
02:01:49.040
And I had to, like, unlearn those traits, and I think I've succeeded.
02:01:54.200
I'll share a little bit of an anecdote on this.
02:01:57.060
Now, I've had a couple long-term relationships, and I, of almost every single girl I've dated,
02:02:08.840
Great women, great girls don't have anything bad.
02:02:13.240
However, there was one girl, and I'm pretty sure she had borderline personality disorder.
02:02:19.040
And I don't know if anybody can relate to this.
02:02:21.500
I've never, all my other relationships, super low conflict, super low friction, but that
02:02:29.120
particular relationship, maybe somebody in the chat can relate.
02:02:46.320
Like, to the point where I'm like, you're driving me crazy here.
02:02:50.020
And, you know, there were a few times I'd raise my voice.
02:02:55.900
But I don't know if anyone can relate to that, where it's like, this person is so, causing so
02:03:01.400
Like, you're just, you, in all your other relationships, you've never been like that.
02:03:06.100
You've never been like that after the toxic relationship.
02:03:08.380
But in that one thing, they, sometimes a man or a woman can draw that shit out of you.
02:03:24.340
They need, they need, they don't need to be in a relationship at all.
02:03:27.480
I think people with BPD need, like, a lot of validation and they feel insecure.
02:03:31.320
Like, some girls will, like, self-sabotage to, like, test you, to, like, be like, would
02:03:38.400
Or I think if they're depressed, they might just be self-sabotaging and not knowing it,
02:03:43.140
One of the, I feel like, gnarliest things about BPD, it seems like, is that accountability
02:03:47.580
and taking ownership of what's going on with you is one of the best and only ways to
02:03:54.020
kind of work through some of the things, but it also is the toughest thing because
02:03:58.280
you have such a fragile sense of self and you have such a fragile, you just don't have
02:04:03.580
an innate sense of, like, general safety or, like, general, I don't know, cohesiveness
02:04:10.060
But I haven't experienced it in relationships, but I've experienced, like, in a romantic
02:04:16.500
relationship, but other relationships, I've experienced people where they're just so
02:04:22.920
Yeah, I'm like, I'm not a yeller, but, like, you just, you make no sense, dude, and, like,
02:05:02.360
When I was in, I think, my senior year of high school, I started getting panic attacks.
02:05:08.320
And I saw a therapist specifically to treat that.
02:05:26.640
But, like, talk therapy where I'm just like, oh, my God, my life is miserable.
02:06:02.320
I had a thyroid infection, so I have to take antibiotics, right?
02:06:06.620
And it's in my bag right now, so I hope I don't forget to take it.
02:06:26.880
So, you disagree in some ways, especially when it comes to belittling women.
02:06:41.280
So, most parts I really do stand and agree with you on due to the way that I was raised in my beliefs that also do lean a lot more conservative.
02:06:50.200
But some women are in the position from a young age where it's very hard for them to support themselves financially.
02:07:03.380
And I guess in that realm of things, I do kind of support, not support, but understand maybe being in the only fans or sex worker industry because, I mean, again, you can always go and get a normal.
02:07:19.680
I mean, not to say that it's not a normal job, but, like, more so of a normal job.
02:07:25.740
But a lot of people don't have maybe the knowledge or the access to be able to do so in some way, shape, or form.
02:07:34.480
A lot of it is by choice, but I feel as though I kind of stand with the side of it that doesn't really have as much of a choice if what I'm saying makes sense.
02:07:51.220
Just, like, maybe schooling and college isn't as accessible to a lot of people.
02:08:04.080
I think that's an accountability thing that no one has.
02:08:09.240
I started because I was trying to pay for my school because I was – I was working at Subway.
02:08:13.240
But I was working 40-hour weeks, and I didn't have time to study or go to class.
02:08:23.440
I had to get my own loans, and I couldn't qualify for everything.
02:08:25.580
Didn't, like, one of the presidents wipe out student loans?
02:08:38.000
But – but, okay, so you understand why they – some women go to OnlyFans for financial or economic reasons.
02:08:45.600
But what specifically – because you mentioned belittling – what would you – what would you say is an example of a time I belittled a woman?
02:08:54.740
I've seen clips here and there off the top of my head.
02:09:00.700
But I feel like there have been some times where you've disregarded somebody's reasoning for doing so.
02:09:12.640
Again, although I really don't necessarily agree with that whole industry as a whole.
02:09:18.200
I feel like some people have different reasons for doing so.
02:09:21.540
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I – I don't know if I typically belittle.
02:09:38.660
But is there something like that in your memory that you could point to and be like, Brian, this one time you called a chick a whore?
02:09:56.600
Do you think that it's, like, less morally wrong if a woman does OnlyFans based on the reason why she does it?
02:10:21.340
But, you know, look, there's a lot of opportunity in the United States.
02:10:29.040
Look, it might not be a glamorous job, but there's plenty of jobs.
02:10:32.820
And honestly, if you're an attractive woman, even – you can do things outside of sex work and even use your pretty privilege.
02:10:40.440
You know, a lot of women will get into, like, medical sales.
02:10:42.780
And you can get into something even without a college education and still make a good income and enough money to survive.
02:10:53.020
I don't know if it's actually the case in the United States that any woman has to do sex work.
02:11:02.020
Like, I understand it's appealing in the sense that some women can make a lot of money doing it.
02:11:09.240
But I don't know if it's actually true that any woman in the United States has to turn to sex work for purely financial reasons.
02:11:19.140
What about, like, a mom that has, like, two under five at home and has no support system?
02:11:28.960
But does welfare pay enough to support a family of three?
02:11:34.980
I have a kid, and when I was a bartender, I was on food stamps, and they had – I had everything good.
02:11:43.260
They paid for my insurance, food in my fridge, and by paper, I was, you know, a single mother.
02:11:52.100
You know, I was still living with my baby daddy at the time, but they paid for everything, and I still had a job, and I was making $5,000 a month.
02:12:02.060
I guess I didn't really consider, like, the government help aspects of that.
02:12:05.500
Yeah, not just government help, but even religious institutions.
02:12:08.160
A lot of churches have a lot of different programs that they run through that can be, like –
02:12:14.480
I would get a box of diapers every month from the church, from everyone else.
02:12:21.460
They gave me food, wipes, diapers, everything you really needed.
02:12:33.220
Just like with your school, respectfully, you didn't have to do sex work.
02:12:41.180
You didn't have to open your legs to have a kid either.
02:12:45.080
And I will say, I think one of the issues is that people automatically equate behavior with moral value or worth of the individual.
02:12:55.620
So, like, I will look you in the face and say, I probably wouldn't call you a hoe because I don't think that that's a permanent state.
02:13:08.960
I think that, like, hoe shit is difficult both for the individual engaging in it.
02:13:15.780
And I don't think anyone would say, hey, it's all peaches and cream.
02:13:18.580
I think that some of the damage or the difficulty extends deeper than some people are willing to admit.
02:13:25.280
Both between, one, you're essentially creating a separate identity.
02:13:31.980
And that kind of shit on your psyche, especially when you're going into a separate – essentially disassociating.
02:13:40.860
But, no, in order to be successful, you have to create an alter ego or, you know, some kind of character.
02:13:47.440
Because if you're just your normal person self, no one's going to tune in for the most part.
02:13:52.560
And you're disassociating into that character during one of the most intimate acts that people can engage together.
02:14:00.840
I think that, over time, that can fuck with you.
02:14:06.280
I think that a lot of women either get into it because they think that other people objectify me or are going to objectify me.
02:14:19.380
So, I'm going to objectify myself first and that way I have control over the situation.
02:14:23.440
Some people might think, oh, it's all fun and games.
02:14:27.000
But I think that there does come a time in everyone's life with the exception of maybe, like, a handful.
02:14:32.820
Like, truly minute numbers that this shit's going to have an impact.
02:14:41.580
And that breaks my heart for anyone that's going through that.
02:14:44.820
Because I think that some people go through not knowing.
02:14:46.720
Some people go through willingly, like, willfully knowing and not caring.
02:14:54.880
I just think that it's sad to see someone put themselves in a bad position.
02:15:00.340
But what if it helps people get out of a bad position?
02:15:07.520
So, would you date a guy who has, like, a nerdy collection of something?
02:15:31.040
Seems like you guys are all open to it, though.
02:16:03.840
Why would I go on a date when I could just stay home and just do this all day?
02:16:14.800
Would you guys date a guy who had four lightsabers?
02:16:42.340
So I looked at some of your guys' Twitter accounts.
02:18:00.200
But I never really like elaborated it on the internet though.
02:19:02.880
And he thought I was going to be more of like the submissive.
02:19:11.740
And then the neighbors, I think the neighbors called us.
02:19:15.340
Like, and then there was like sirens and then I got arrested.
02:19:24.480
That's why there are helicopters all over the things.
02:19:31.040
But my roommates, they said they were talking to the neighbors and they thought like...
02:19:53.260
And then three months later, all of a sudden he had a problem with the OF.
02:20:30.480
No, like I'm very soft-spoken, but I'm still...
02:20:32.920
Is this your first altercation you've had with a guy?
02:20:43.220
Like people at the climbing gym, they know about it.
02:21:15.000
Can you read the top one and then the bottom one?
02:21:21.480
Heartbroken, because I'll never get the feeling of pressing a man's head onto my dick so he
02:21:45.000
I'm so bored that I want to step on men, which I do, and it's really fun.
02:21:52.000
I had him wash my dishes, and then I stepped on him after.
02:21:56.860
Because I don't clean very well, so sometimes I have my fans clean my apartment.
02:22:02.380
I feel like that's kind of sketchy, don't you think?
02:22:03.720
It's really not, because a lot of my fans, surprisingly, they're very respectful.
02:22:09.880
I was going to say, they could also, I feel like, put cameras in your home and do, like,
02:22:17.140
Like, you would see them put cameras and stuff in them.
02:22:22.560
I'm, like, sitting in the kitchen and stuff, and they're doing the dishes, and they're
02:22:26.420
more, like, scared of me, so they're not, like...
02:22:31.180
I'm still very nice to them, so they're still, like, you know, and, yeah, no, they've never
02:22:38.460
You know, I get flack because I want women, the very first time a woman comes to my house,
02:22:44.700
I want her to bow, I want her to fold my laundry, and I get flack for that, and we
02:22:50.040
got girls over here stepping on dudes, beating them up and shit for the funsies.
02:22:58.840
I'm just trying to be wholesome over here, just wanting a girl to do my laundry and to,
02:23:13.860
But does she walk in, and she's, like, yes, I am.
02:23:23.380
Would you guys, like, bow to, like, a guy like that?
02:23:26.740
I have a video of my ex-girlfriend doing it, actually.
02:23:30.240
I'll pull it up once she's back, but what's that?
02:23:46.280
But if we're far enough in a relationship where you've decided to move in together, then I'm
02:23:52.340
So if, yeah, long-term, I'm taking care of everything in the relationship.
02:24:04.600
But if we're living together, everything's taken care of.
02:24:22.400
If I get a boyfriend, I want him to just hold the camera.
02:24:31.280
Well, if you got a boyfriend, would you do scenes with, like, other men?
02:24:55.320
I just never thought of setting up a camera and then...
02:25:03.360
Because I go after submissive guys, so if I bowed to them, they'd be like,
02:25:11.220
Well, there's switches out there, I guess, you could find, I guess.
02:25:16.900
Uh, so this is a video I took of my ex-girlfriend, and I explicitly told her the old one.
02:25:25.840
Uh, I actually show this video to future girlfriends, new girls I'm dealing with, like, as a template.
02:25:39.960
I was like, look, obviously it's not going to work out between us.
02:25:44.680
Let me film this video, because, look, you do a pretty good job at it.
02:25:48.180
Not the best, but I'm like, let me use this as a tutorial for future girlfriends so they
02:26:06.560
Uh, this is after a long podcast episode, um, and, uh, yeah, and then she has my dinner
02:26:13.420
ready here, as you're about to see, and I like the scampering, I don't know if that's
02:26:18.700
the right word, that's always good, cracks open a beer for me, I don't even drink beer,
02:26:22.960
but she does it anyways, um, stirs my noodles, and then very attentive, very attentive, as you'll
02:26:30.120
see, uh, good, and then play it one more time from the beginning, just the bow.
02:26:40.420
Uh, I want a girl who, I get home, dinner's ready, hits a bow, uh...
02:26:56.960
She, she does, uh, no, she doesn't do that, but...
02:27:06.620
Also, um, first time ever a girl comes over to the house, she should do my laundry.
02:27:16.680
I actually free ball, so I don't really have much underwear.
02:27:19.400
Oh, you want her to see, like, the stains on the inside of your jeans?
02:27:24.860
I, I am, uh, very, uh, bit of a clean freak, so hygiene, very important.
02:27:33.580
Okay, wait, you said you don't like, you don't like, um, um...
02:27:36.800
You have to use baby wipes if you're, you can't, or a bidet.
02:27:48.060
Um, you said you don't like, um, what was the thing, the, the, the, the, the, the, the what?
02:27:55.500
You said you don't like quality time, so when she does all this for you, do you just, like,
02:27:58.640
ignore her, or, like, or, like, do you, like, all right, bye?
02:28:10.720
I might gaze upon her for, for a few seconds, like, like that, but that's, uh, yeah, that's
02:28:17.180
But what are you doing in return for all of that?
02:28:30.360
Would you think it was wrong if a woman thought like that?
02:28:38.040
No, I mean, what, so what, what was your question, though, originally?
02:28:41.300
Yeah, and especially if you guys are not in, like, a committed relationship and you're not
02:28:46.900
Oh, she's, if she's coming to my house, she's committed to me.
02:28:53.280
Uh, I understand, it depends on the context a little bit.
02:28:56.520
But if she's reaching out to me, she's a hundred percent single if we're going to meet at all.
02:29:02.000
Uh, but like, let's say I've, you know, I've shot my shot with a girl, uh, or we, you know,
02:29:06.420
back in the day, if we matched on a dating app, I'd be really explicit about it.
02:29:10.600
Um, if we go on a first date and you want a second date, it has to be a wrap with the
02:29:19.660
If you want, if there's other guys in the picture, you, you kind of like this guy, you're
02:29:28.240
She, she's on the fence about me or, but I don't want to be in a situation really where
02:29:33.880
I'm, uh, pursuing a girl, dating a girl, uh, beyond the first date and she's fuck another,
02:29:42.680
And that's valid, but is it the same for you as well?
02:30:07.800
She should just, I mean, I've done that for immediately done their laundry on dates.
02:30:15.940
We, we shouldn't even like have pleasant chit chat.
02:30:19.300
She should just be like, Brian, where's the laundry room?
02:30:25.220
So you have like first and second dates at your house?
02:30:32.280
Um, well, so it's, uh, the phrasing is first time at my house.
02:30:37.420
I guess that could be the first date or it could be a second or third time meeting.
02:30:48.900
As long as you provide the correct environment.
02:31:08.900
Like, are you, like you said, so you said you'd provide.
02:31:13.940
What about, like, creating that trust, stability, and genuine connection?
02:31:18.300
Because I do think that's very possible for any partner of any sex to provide that if they're in a nurturing environment.
02:31:37.640
Well, you're trying to get something out of me.
02:31:49.440
Actually, um, it is a turn on when the more chores a woman does for me, that absolutely,
02:32:02.900
Uh, well, I mean, first off, it's, uh, an aphrodisiac to witness a woman doing your
02:32:09.700
laundry, cooking for you, um, cleaning the house.
02:32:14.900
Like, uh, you know, you guys think fucking lingerie.
02:32:20.520
But like, she's like cleaning, like vacuuming or some shit.
02:32:36.140
I don't think you should be bringing that up, girl.
02:32:38.300
It's giving, it's giving like a, like a caregiver.
02:32:48.420
Like, I like when a guy, I like when a guy cuts up my steak for me.
02:33:00.060
I like to be taken care of, and you're giving me the same, the same kind of vibe is what
02:33:17.340
Did your mom do a lot of like the household chores?
02:33:22.700
Uh, I mean, she, she did do things in the household, but, uh, in.
02:33:29.260
I, I think my parents actually have a, almost to, like, for example, my dad did the cooking.
02:33:37.280
Um, so I want to say they had to even some degree a bit.
02:33:43.980
It was for the, for my mom, some for my dad, but probably more towards an egalitarian, uh,
02:33:51.320
dynamic than, than a more trad dynamic with my parents.
02:33:56.140
And do you believe there are specific roles for specific genders and relationships?
02:34:03.620
I think people can negotiate whatever they want in their own relationships, but as a general
02:34:08.280
principle, I think the more traditional gender roles tend to be, I think, the most conducive
02:34:31.560
But, um, I think in general, I think what tends to work the best is the traditional roles.
02:34:40.200
I won't take the trash out, but I'll put the trash bags in.
02:34:42.500
Well, I think the woman should take the trash out too.
02:34:51.320
That doesn't seem like you're providing, you know?
02:34:55.360
I'm providing all the food that went into the trash can.
02:35:04.920
I mean, the, uh, look, the trash bags are not that heavy.
02:35:09.060
Like, this idea that, oh, the trash is the man's job.
02:35:14.940
I can have a woman who's 97 pounds and 5'1 can do the trash.
02:35:35.380
You don't know how to do, like, an oil change or something?
02:35:37.440
Uh, I know how the oil change, but I'd rather a professional do it.
02:35:48.580
Um, so is the, sorry, I don't, like, I don't want to offend you.
02:35:56.880
Was the toilet seat thing, was that, like, you establishing dominance?
02:36:01.440
I went to the bathroom after you, and you left the toilet seat up, and I also was the
02:36:05.040
first person that went to the bathroom when I got here, and the toilet seat up was, was
02:36:09.040
So I'm wondering, because, like, there's a bunch of women here, are you like, yeah, this
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02:37:16.980
Look, I think whoever, whatever the state of affairs is in the bathroom, you put the toilet
02:37:25.560
I don't, I, are you suggesting that men should put the toilet seat down for women?
02:37:38.960
I was, I actually, uh, after hooking up with a girl, first time, right?
02:37:42.720
And I was, I liked her and, uh, she comes back out of the bathroom and, uh, she's like,
02:37:48.680
oh, you didn't put the, the toilet seat down for me and gave me attitude about it.
02:38:06.220
I'm gonna, look, I'm gonna be, this is, this is girl talk right now.
02:38:11.240
Because men can't be honest with women, but I can.
02:38:22.000
The minute you cause friction to a certain degree, he doesn't like you anymore.
02:38:31.380
He still wants to fuck you, but he doesn't like you anymore.
02:38:35.660
So, he'll keep you around for a couple weeks, a couple months.
02:38:42.340
Yeah, if you're just bitching about a toilet seat 24-7, I wouldn't like your ass either.
02:38:46.680
So, I would highly, strongly encourage you women, if you're like, this guy's a catch,
02:38:52.300
you need to be on your fucking A game and not cause any friction.
02:38:58.380
You gotta delay friction for as long as humanly possible, preferably never.
02:39:04.100
You want a woman to fold your laundry, cook for you, take out the trash, and you draw the
02:39:08.780
line at her asking you to put the toilet seat down.
02:39:19.820
Privately, like, okay, for, I mean, not to be graphic.
02:39:22.400
Number two, yes, fully down, the cover, fully down, and then you flush.
02:39:31.500
What if your woman's love language is also acts of service, and all she wants you to do
02:39:39.140
My, look, as the man in the relationship, my needs, you're gonna hate this, the man's
02:39:55.800
Now, I think there's some leeway if she's pregnant.
02:40:03.100
She's carrying your child, and there's only some?
02:40:05.560
However, if she isn't pregnant with my kid, supersedes.
02:40:13.580
I disagree, because you're proving the opposite right now.
02:40:18.580
You talk about women being sensitive and causing friction over subjects that don't honestly
02:40:25.020
To my perspective, it seems like you're the one causing a big deal about something that's
02:40:31.780
Make an argument for why men should put the toilet seat down.
02:40:36.560
Why would women have it up and want to touch a dirty toilet seat?
02:40:51.040
You've been dating a guy for two to three years?
02:41:08.740
Okay, so, when you go to his house or he goes to your place, well, which is it typically?
02:41:19.740
Okay, he leaves the- he puts the toilet seat up for you?
02:41:23.960
Well, he has like one of those fancy Japanese toilets.
02:41:29.260
I feel like none of y'all grew up with brothers.
02:41:41.260
I have two brothers, and I still think it's just a very-
02:41:47.060
It's a very nice thing to do for the woman in the relationship.
02:41:52.720
It shows you care and you're considerate about her when she has to sit down.
02:42:00.820
And she- also, this is another topic that we can probably touch on that I'm sure you guys
02:42:08.020
So, maybe she can just have- she just walks across the house to the other bathroom.
02:42:13.020
But also, I mean, this relates to having separate bedrooms.
02:42:25.080
Well, because why can't you walk to another bathroom as well?
02:42:33.480
And then the separate bedroom, or separate bathroom, excuse me, is over there.
02:42:55.980
I feel like I want a pretty pink bedroom and nice lights and fur on the floor.
02:43:03.160
So, if he wanted a separate bedroom, shit, go get your nasty ass over there.
02:43:06.740
I also want a separate bedroom in some way, shit.
02:43:08.520
But, of course, I'd like to cuddle and do this.
02:43:11.200
And at the end of the night, you know, if I want to stay in there,
02:43:13.980
or else, you know, if he lets me stay in there, cool.
02:43:18.880
Like, you know, like, okay, you know, maybe like a man cave and like a craft room or something.
02:43:24.720
But to sleep in different beds, I feel like it lacks intimacy severely.
02:43:29.640
I feel like if I want to masturbate by myself, that'd be good to have an extra bedroom.
02:43:33.480
And also, like, I've always told myself, if I ever decide to date again,
02:43:36.940
I'm having my own bedroom or I'm not living with a motherfucker.
02:43:40.100
I feel like that's a very important part of being in a relationship.
02:43:48.360
Like, your nighttime routine together, going to sleep together.
02:43:51.020
It's very, I'd even say it's like a sacred place.
02:43:55.640
But it's also very important to have an additional extra space that if there is some tension or an argument, you guys have your alone time.
02:44:07.760
Like, I do think it's important in a relationship to, like, have your own spaces.
02:44:11.340
But the bedroom being it specifically, I think just...
02:44:16.260
Why can't I just fuck my husband and then go to my other room and play some video games?
02:44:19.860
Having, like, your own separate space, like your own bathroom, makes it to where you don't have to fall in the toilet because he left the toilet seat up.
02:44:30.060
Like, you're just mitigating issues you don't like that he's doing.
02:44:35.480
Even if there was only one bathroom on the toilet seat thing, I'm not putting the toilet seat down.
02:44:41.860
But I'm such a benevolent, I'm such a nice guy.
02:44:44.480
I happen to have a house to myself with, you know, multiple rooms and another bathroom.
02:44:52.140
So, you know, I'm obviously considerate of the toilet seat situation, having two bathrooms.
02:45:04.480
Well, I mean, so my position on the separate bedrooms thing is...
02:45:08.660
And I understand that sleeping together in the same bed, that's bonding, that's a bit more intimacy.
02:45:14.480
Although, I think you could make an argument for it can reduce intimacy in the sense that, like, I don't know what you guys think about this, but, like, farting in front of each other or burping in front of each other.
02:45:30.640
Well, I think it's okay for men to do it, but if a woman...
02:46:18.840
How can you train and be in love with someone and intimate with them?
02:46:51.300
I was saying how it could actually decrease intimacy when you're too familiar, too in each
02:47:00.940
I think my main point would be the reason I want separate beds is purely sleep quality.
02:47:15.120
You know, some women are, like, super still and don't move at all and make no noise.
02:47:25.640
And I had a girl, I think a girl fucked my nose up one time.
02:47:31.180
She, like, flailed, like, tilted her head back and it was, I was spooning.
02:47:42.720
You guys have had that shit on lock for too long.
02:47:58.080
And I believe that even if it is true that it's like an intimate thing, sleeping together,
02:48:03.840
I think the sleep quality supersedes 1% extra intimacy points.
02:48:25.600
And I didn't realize until like a couple weeks into the relationship after it happened
02:48:29.160
a couple times where I like talked about it with him the next day.
02:48:33.920
And I was like, yeah, that was like really good last night.
02:48:53.220
I've heard that they, the sex, sleep sex people, they growl during the sleep sex shit.
02:49:01.920
But I did wake up to him like slapping me like this one time.
02:49:05.880
We have some chats coming through that we're going to, let's play these.
02:49:14.140
These are trollops wanting a man to put the oil at seat down because it's gross, but out
02:49:18.960
here tongue punching fart boxes and swapping sex toys.
02:49:45.540
I like to draw shapes on the ground with it, too.
02:49:59.340
It's like, I'm the bad guy because I won't put the toilet seat...
02:50:04.680
Yeah, I won't put the toilet seat down, but you guys fuck men on camera for money.
02:50:15.220
Well, that's like, you don't even date OnlyFans, girls, so...
02:51:06.320
You know, I was thinking I should maybe, like, try to impregnate some of these, like, high, top-tier OF girls.
02:51:29.420
I kind of think I should impregnate, like, a top-tier OF girl.
02:51:37.680
I feel like you could segue into a reality TV show.
02:52:02.500
This adversarial, you know, thing with OnlyFans girls for years.
02:52:22.260
I think I get full custody, so I can maximize the child support.
02:52:37.020
I have always wondered, how do you guys not get pregnant?
02:52:52.960
There's lots of pregnancies that happen even when people are on birth control.
02:52:57.320
Well, it's good, because then they'd be getting abortion, so I'm glad they're on fucking birth control.
02:53:17.340
You should give it to her, so she can cover up her...
02:55:03.640
Like, I mean, maybe because a lot of the times men might have certain insecurities and they
02:55:08.080
don't want a woman to really stare and point them out?
02:55:18.180
As someone that's a little bit autistic as well, um...
02:55:23.500
My dad got diagnosed at like 50 and we're pretty suspicious.
02:55:27.000
But, yeah, eye contact can be weird in a variety of circumstances because it just kind of adds
02:55:31.980
to another level of sometimes you feel like visibility or too much visibility or it's like
02:55:39.880
And so it's less that it's like, yo, I don't want you to look me in the eyes.
02:55:44.320
But in certain occasions, like even if I'm having a hard conversation, I can't have a
02:55:49.060
difficult conversation and make eye contact anytime I'm talking, even on the podcast and
02:56:01.740
I'm not always looking at somebody in the eyes when I'm speaking.
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I tend to, like, in order to think, I tend to need to...
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I need to, like, look up to the left or the right or something.
02:56:38.340
Have you ever, like, looked at a girl in the eyes and said, I love you?
02:56:53.480
Do you think it's because you're in a very vulnerable state?
02:57:02.120
It's, like, certain instances it can be awkward.
02:57:53.720
I need a bunch of men to come in my mouth, like right now.
02:58:02.340
I've been sick three times in the past 30 days.
02:58:05.980
Touch the toilet seat and your immune system will be stronger.
02:58:12.100
I was getting flack for not putting the toilet seat down for my lady.
02:58:28.160
I said that you also downplayed the seriousness of herpes and said that it's pretty much fine
02:58:39.240
It's only an issue if there is an open wound or an active breakout, which, yes, can be true.
02:58:44.880
But once again, when we're talking about safety and sex, it's something that you have to be
02:58:49.220
I said it only spreads with an active wound, which is true.
02:58:53.420
I never said it's not a big deal or it's not serious.
02:59:00.080
Your tone was very kind of dismissive about it and kind of...
02:59:08.860
There's not a lot of education when it comes to herpes, so a lot of people get very scared
02:59:21.860
I'm not saying it's not a big deal, but a lot of the population has HSV-1, which is cold
02:59:28.680
And I do think the education is very, very important about it, and I don't think there's
02:59:35.400
And yeah, like, I don't think there should be such a big stigma around it.
02:59:42.400
Yeah, so it can only be spread when you have open sores.
02:59:45.840
The way that HSV-1 becomes HSV-2 is when people with open sores participate in oral sex.
02:59:52.240
You can have HSV-1 and 2 and be completely asymptomatic.
03:00:11.520
Yeah, so it's cold sores, but I've never gotten a cold sore.
03:00:14.780
On the genitals region, have you had an outbreak?
03:00:22.380
Does anybody else want to disclose any sensitive health information on the Whatever Podcast?
03:00:39.120
What do you do to get that taken care of when it happens?
03:00:52.360
You look like Joaquin Phoenix if he was a woman.
03:01:12.100
Like she's the female version of Joaquin Phoenix.
03:01:30.960
But you look like if Joaquin Phoenix had irritable bowel syndrome.
03:01:39.660
You look like Joaquin Phoenix if he was a woman, but if, I don't know, I don't want to roast you.
03:01:53.900
You look very familiar and it is the deep set eyes and like, yeah, and the strong jawline.
03:01:59.520
Bro, what do you, oh my God, holy shit, not you.
03:02:35.320
Here, why don't we do, oh, going around the table.
03:03:28.520
Looks like you're about to wish for your eye to be better.
03:03:37.640
You're kind of doing that through OnlyFans work.
03:03:54.900
Your boyfriend, would you bow for your boyfriend?
03:04:05.520
All right, do you think he's watching right now?
03:04:21.160
Reese, you gotta, I don't know, honestly, Reese,
03:04:53.180
Or, well, I guess that would require leaving it down.
03:04:56.660
Well, you have to make, decide which one's worse.
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Like, he's just, his aim isn't the best sometimes.
03:05:43.460
There's very few things he wouldn't do for me, so.
03:05:47.240
Uh, they all seem like they'd mostly do the bow,
03:06:07.700
What if we left, like, the period blood all over the seat?
03:06:15.920
Eh, you guys sometimes, it hits the side or gets, like, on the underside.
03:06:27.820
And when you pull your tampon out and it slings?
03:06:54.340
But, like, so in my mind, though, and I don't know if this is unreal, well, obviously, perfect
03:07:01.020
The perfect woman would be, uh, the richest woman alive.
03:07:06.120
She is the hottest woman alive, at least from my perspective.
03:07:14.680
She completely acquiesces to basically everything I want.
03:07:25.060
Like, all the other factors that would make her perfect.
03:07:32.220
And, but, I mean, even just on the, the money thing.
03:07:45.180
But, didn't you earlier state that you agree with, like, the more traditional rules in gender
03:07:52.160
So, why would you want a woman to be the money earner and the provider for you?
03:07:57.040
Well, in this, I mean, who knows how the woman came into her wealth.
03:08:01.900
In this super, in this hypothetical, if you're the wealthiest woman, uh, in the world, uh,
03:08:09.240
But, uh, so it's not like she's going to, not, uh, a woman who's a trillionaire is not,
03:08:16.320
So, she's just somehow, I don't know, she just got gifted a fuck ton of Bitcoin, I guess.
03:08:26.280
And perfect, so it'd also be, like, perfect loyalty, never leaves you.
03:08:30.320
Yeah, of course, you take the, you'd make a lot, I think a lot of people, whether they'd
03:08:34.520
be willing to admit it or not, would make a lot of concessions for the perfect person.
03:08:41.620
But, I mean, I'd still, in terms of the preferable dynamic, uh, yeah, I'd want a dynamic where
03:08:48.060
I'm leading in the relationship, she's showing me deference, she's deferring to me, she acquiesces
03:08:55.820
to me, um, I'm the decision maker, I'm the leader.
03:09:01.740
But if part of that is, you get all of that, but you have to do a bow, sure.
03:09:08.900
Totally, totally arbitrary, super benign, I would do it.
03:09:12.420
Um, yeah, I'll give, like, also, I can give a, oh, sorry, go ahead.
03:09:17.840
I just don't, because you said what you align with more traditional values.
03:09:20.460
I don't think, like, having to make all the decisions is pretty traditional.
03:09:22.880
I feel like in a traditional setting, the women make a lot of the decisions as well.
03:09:30.400
Uh, well, so even, okay, if you're talking from a historical standard, uh, women would
03:09:37.360
make a lot of, uh, household, uh, consumer decisions and some financial decisions, but
03:09:45.020
you're saying in a traditional dynamic, the woman is making decisions as to the external,
03:09:54.180
like, external things outside of the household?
03:10:00.960
I mean, what's a, what's a decision you make outside of the household?
03:10:04.040
Uh, I mean, it could be, okay, we're going to move here.
03:10:16.160
So that wouldn't really just be the man's choice because the, you would also rely on the
03:10:23.920
Well, yeah, now roles are completely inverted and completely negotiable.
03:10:32.680
Men and women are completely at odds with each other.
03:10:36.700
Um, not to say that people aren't in good relationships, but, uh, a lot of people are
03:10:41.420
high, both men and women are really dissatisfied with the current dating dynamics that exist.
03:10:47.320
So I do think it's the case of return to, uh, a more traditional dynamic, I think would
03:10:58.240
Um, and I, I feel like the big part of that is just, you can't live on one income anymore
03:11:04.100
because if you could, then I think the dynamic of one person making the income, the other
03:11:08.520
person taking care of the house and the children, it doesn't matter which sex I think preferably,
03:11:15.440
It's just not possible anymore because of the financial situation.
03:11:18.900
Yeah, because if you've got an OnlyFans, well, let's be honest, we're racking up some money.
03:11:24.920
Shit, I could probably take care of all three of these people.
03:11:30.480
I want a house husband so I can afford it, but I don't think the average person can.
03:11:35.760
Traditional practices though, that's not a day.
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Traditional was definitely more men definitely made most of the decisions outside of the house.
03:11:45.760
I think even if the man's not working at all, you can still have a traditional dynamic, but
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that's going to require the woman to submit regardless of the fact that she's the breadwinner.
03:11:59.340
Because I think being submissive is not strictly, it's not strictly inextricable from who the
03:12:09.600
Like, you would agree with me that a woman could be obscenely wealthy, but you come across
03:12:13.440
the right guy and you would be submissive to him.
03:12:17.720
So, because I mean, I think a man can be masculine and dominant absent his money.
03:12:27.520
But I mean, you look at some men who don't have money and they're still hyper-masculine.
03:12:39.700
I think it is a component of it, but I don't think it's completely 100% tied.
03:12:46.140
I think you can provide as a man without providing financially.
03:12:50.100
Like if a woman has a PJ, a woman has a private jet and she wants to deal with me, like it's
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Like, it's your jet, but it's, we're on my jet, baby.
03:13:04.520
So like, she'll get you, like she has a nice car, but like you're going to drive her around
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I'm going to, she can be passenger princess in her really nice car.
03:13:47.140
I guess in the zombie apocalypse, it's like you're running away from the zombies.
03:13:55.860
I know my dude has to teach me how to drive his truck because, like, gosh forbid, I have
03:14:07.100
If a man pulled up in an automatic vehicle or, like, not a truck, I'd find that extremely
03:14:12.200
If you pull up in a Honda Civic, I'm going to be, like, gross.
03:14:15.980
I think, though, it would be, like, I don't know.
03:14:18.320
Look, you mentioned, like, house husband or whatever.
03:14:20.360
Like, if a girl, I don't know, if I encountered a girl who's just obscenely wealthy, fuck it.
03:14:28.820
We're going to pump out a bunch of kids, and I'm taking care of the kids.
03:14:33.920
This idea that work is the ultimate fulfillment in life, well, especially for women, that's
03:14:39.680
But even for men, this idea that work, I can understand the drive for, like, building something
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Like, I understand how that can be, provide some degree of fulfillment.
03:14:53.240
But I think that's also even a psyop for men to a degree in the sense that, like, okay,
03:14:59.860
you're going to be a wage slave for, like, 60 years.
03:15:05.960
I feel like a lot of women can't, don't understand what it's like to live below 50 grand sometimes.
03:15:13.480
Like, if you want to be a housewife, you got to learn how to live with one income.
03:15:16.780
I mean, you're telling me you can't live off 40 grand a year?
03:15:20.740
Reducing consumption and just accepting that, like, there are sacrifices that you make.
03:15:26.560
We could afford a nice life or same quality of life as two people.
03:15:30.740
But I also think that there's ways, if having a family is your goal, there's ways to kind
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of set up your life in a way that your career can be adaptable for a family.
03:15:49.580
And I do marketing for, like, 100 of our clubs nationwide.
03:15:53.300
And I chose this career path out of different career paths simply because it would be adaptable
03:15:58.840
for me to then go freelance, for me to do work from home part time.
03:16:04.780
It's a career that allows me in the future to stay home with my kids because I want to
03:16:11.760
And then I can, you know, contribute financially to my family.
03:16:17.680
But I think if you're, if you prioritize your career over your family, then, like, yeah,
03:16:27.280
And that's, like, the main reason why I do OF is because I'm creating, my goal is to create
03:16:33.800
generational wealth for my future family and kids.
03:16:50.660
If you go to a guy's house and he has emergency rations, rations, am I saying that right?
03:17:00.060
Like, he's got 30, he's got, like, a three-month supply of food, like a shit-hits-the-fan type
03:17:19.080
Who here enjoys a quality of life that, like, I don't know, if you were dating a guy and
03:17:28.620
he, like, takes you on trips or what's, there's a term for it.
03:17:32.140
I don't know if luxury would be the right word.
03:17:33.780
Who here wants that, like, kind of more luxurious lifestyle?
03:17:40.260
Do you, now, you get to pick that or you guys have a bunker.
03:17:53.380
Because I'm thinking, like, maybe the guy, he earns a good amount of money.
03:18:02.460
He can't be both, okay, we're going to, like, have luxury lifestyle and have the bunker.
03:18:08.480
So, I think, I think you got to, I mean, if I had to make that decision for myself, I'm
03:18:21.140
And we're storing, there's going to be a fucking water processing thing there for rainwater.
03:18:29.880
Okay, there's going to be, there's going to be that.
03:18:32.180
We're going to be, I don't know what we're going to have.
03:18:35.740
Yeah, underground bunker, guns, a lot of, a ton of guns, food supplies that will last
03:18:48.540
But we're going to live kind of a bit of a, you know, it's not going to be, you know,
03:18:53.300
you're not going to drive the Lexus, you're going to drive the Toyota.
03:19:01.520
So, you don't get the, I don't know, what, what, Chanel, what do women wear?
03:19:22.160
Like, why the bunker for like when the world ends?
03:19:26.660
I kind of want to be, I want to die when the world ends.
03:19:30.400
Wait, this is a great question to ask a potential dating prospect.
03:19:38.840
But not like slow zombie, like Walking Dead, where it's like, oh, okay, they're fucking
03:20:01.420
Yeah, and I can stand on the roof of my porch and I just walk around with a rifle.
03:20:38.560
I'm going to smoke and I'm just going to watch the world burn.
03:20:44.100
I feel like you're instinctually, though, like want to.
03:20:48.540
You're just going to sit there and let them eat you?
03:20:55.740
I would try to survive, but I mean, death isn't the worst thing.
03:21:18.820
I'd only want to survive if I could like do something to protect them, you know?
03:21:26.060
Like that your quality of life would be so down.
03:21:31.300
But what if you survive and it's potentially over at one point and just.
03:21:52.600
I think I prefer to pay taxes than deal with a zombie apocalypse.
03:22:07.800
You know, the OnlyFans sends you a 1099 probably, I think.
03:22:21.980
I said, would you rather encounter a zombie or a man?
03:23:39.560
And you're over here trying to advocate for that.
03:24:01.600
Does your boyfriend call like women whores and stuff?
03:24:36.020
You know, they say that Minnesota is full of ice right now.
03:24:43.120
Can't go down the street without ice, you know, catching up to you.
03:24:46.520
So the best I can say is, of course, there's ice in fucking Minnesota.
03:25:07.680
No, I've always been pretty much like a comedian.
03:25:27.480
Oh, I was just going to say, you have a strong stage presence.
03:25:29.660
So I feel like, like I can imagine like dark room.
03:25:32.580
You just have a drink in your hand and you're just kind of like shooting the shit.
03:25:56.100
Since this is a dating show, what guys do you go for?
03:26:14.740
Like there's nothing hotter than a man that does like physical labor all day.
03:26:22.140
Those muscles from that, those are like, they're different than the gym bros.
03:26:27.980
Would you still like him if he was like a twink, but still did that stuff?
03:27:19.120
Somebody that like, I don't feel as though I'm in a relationship with as like, as opposed
03:27:25.400
to like boyfriend and girlfriend, someone that more so feels like a best friend.
03:27:49.540
I guess short kings if I were to go for, like, I've never dated a guy taller than me.
03:27:57.380
What's like the lowest height you would go for?
03:28:15.040
I don't think like height is like a factor for me necessarily, but all the guys that I
03:28:29.280
So, anything below that or the same height as me, like whatever.
03:28:47.420
My husband is traditional blue collar business owner.
03:29:01.940
My boy's got a mustache and a little bit of a mullet and gorgeous curls.
03:29:15.380
So, he didn't have social media until he was like 22.
03:29:18.140
Didn't really start dating until he was like 24.
03:29:25.220
And he knows like how to do plumbing, welding, electrical work, how to fix a car.
03:29:29.300
He's just kind of knows how to do everything he does.
03:29:32.860
He, he welded me a shelf for Christmas that had like roses in the center and like two roses
03:29:39.960
And then it had a ball bearing so that I could like hang up my artwork in my room.
03:29:45.000
Going off of, because you said he didn't have social media until he was 22.
03:29:50.260
Would you date a guy that regularly posts on Instagram?
03:29:59.880
If, if I was to go out and date now, I would have to date somebody in my kind of field.
03:30:04.500
But if it was like in the future, if I ever tried to actually do something serious, no.
03:30:09.540
And not just like pics with friends, like, or if it's for work, that's like, if he has
03:30:21.280
If he's, well, I mean, even like gym dudes, they post selfies all the time.
03:30:27.480
As long as he doesn't engage with like other women doing it, I don't see a problem.
03:30:42.660
I wouldn't be able to take like my boyfriend seriously.
03:30:47.980
Well, and I feel like if you have to perform at your own life, like, if it like invades
03:30:52.640
your own life or you feel like you have to like perform or like, I don't know.
03:30:56.620
If he's just taking, like if he was just out taking pictures of nature and like posting
03:31:08.060
But if they're just doing it for like female attention.
03:31:17.020
And if there's a bunch of quotes on there, I'm gonna lose my mind.
03:31:21.240
Or like if they're just like thirst trapping because they want to, like there's no money
03:31:42.280
Is it the fact that it's something you feel like is small that he's standing firm on or
03:31:49.000
do you, is it actually like the, the toilet seat itself that's, that you have an issue
03:31:54.080
Like my love language is like doing little things that normal, like people that aren't
03:32:00.900
in a relationship might not think matter as much, but they really do.
03:32:04.120
Like how, I don't, I don't remember who mentioned cutting up steak.
03:32:13.200
I kind of see the toilet seat thing is kind of degrading to make your girlfriend put it.
03:32:16.200
Oh, I feel like if you're doing it on purpose, it's a little strange.
03:32:20.120
It's a little strange if you just leave it up on purpose, but if it's your bathroom.
03:32:27.460
I wouldn't have a problem if he's leaving his own bathroom, toilet seat, whatever you want
03:32:34.360
I grew up with brothers and my dad would always leave the toilet seat up.
03:32:39.020
But, but, but that, you have to put it in perspective.
03:32:41.160
Like, I'm so glad that I get to put the toilet seat down because those people are still alive.
03:32:48.840
So, um, like even if it's like socks, I'm so glad I get to fold tiny socks all day because
03:32:56.260
So I'm glad I get to do the dishes for people who are alive.
03:33:00.900
So, I mean, you can complain about the small things all day long, but at the end of the
03:33:12.840
I think that's just an example of like little things like, is he going to hold the door
03:33:20.900
And I feel like that goes along with like, like with putting the toilet seat down, like
03:33:24.540
gentlemanly things that I feel like are very looked over.
03:33:28.700
I think that just depends on, it just goes down to the fact, are you going to be with
03:33:32.800
You know, if not putting this toilet seat down, it's like a make or break.
03:33:39.120
If you don't want to fold long, you can just get out of it.
03:33:41.280
So at the end of the day, it's like, it's just up to the person.
03:33:45.000
If you don't want to put the toilet seat down, it's totally optional to leave.
03:33:48.200
Like, I just think it's absurd when, no offense, Brian, Brian wants to be treated like a king,
03:33:54.400
but Brian doesn't want to give that same energy back.
03:34:10.680
If we're talking about literal royalty, the queen is subservient to the king.
03:34:14.880
Do you know how much influence women have behind closed doors?
03:34:27.660
Maybe not in front of his people, but he does behind closed doors.
03:34:35.500
Not, no, I'm actually talking about literal, like, royalty.
03:34:43.620
Well, yeah, there's no dispute that the queen would have influence, but that's not what we're talking about.
03:34:49.120
We're talking about the specific dynamic between the king and the queen.
03:34:52.520
In this instance, no, the king is not, what's the right word, subservient, obedient.
03:35:02.580
Mm, not quite submitting, but, yeah, the king is the head honcho.
03:35:09.440
I think that you're viewing the reverence as being one directional.
03:35:14.960
So, in terms of, like, people have to bow to the queen, queen has to bow to the king, and king doesn't have to bow to anyone below him.
03:35:22.800
I think that there is a, and by that metric, then, like, queen and common person would be essentially in the same category of reverence owed by the king.
03:35:35.940
Because I feel like it's, like, ultimately the king is at the top, but, like.
03:35:49.020
But you were saying how the toilet seat thing, it's such a small thing.
03:35:53.960
Well, if it's such a small thing, why can't I reverse this on you and say if it's such a small thing, it shouldn't matter?
03:35:59.600
Because you were the last person to use the toilet, so put the seat down after you're done.
03:36:04.120
I don't understand the actual logic of the man should put the toilet seat down for the woman.
03:36:14.720
But she should care to not force me to have another encumbrance on my time.
03:36:21.220
Oh, I've got to think about, I need to be considerate of the toilet seat.
03:36:25.540
It's like other things, like send a text if you're busy and can't reply.
03:36:29.780
Be like, hey, babe, I'm a little busy right now.
03:36:31.760
I think that's generally okay, unless you're like really busy and in the middle of something.
03:36:41.140
I think that's different than what we're talking about with the toilet seat.
03:36:44.040
The toilet seat is this completely arbitrary thing.
03:36:47.000
Ultimately, the thing that logically makes the most sense is whatever the state of the bathroom is, however it is, you transform that state into the state that you want it to be in.
03:36:59.100
So if I go into the bathroom and the toilet seat is down, I put it up.
03:37:04.920
If the toilet seat is up, for you, you put it down.
03:37:10.600
I feel like we're getting hung up on the toilet seat thing when it's a bigger picture.
03:37:34.920
Now, I'm not saying that certain people should be mistreated or abused or treated poorly.
03:37:41.760
Would you agree that you can be polite to somebody but not observe chivalry?
03:37:47.180
Like a man could be nice to you but not be chivalrous.
03:38:06.080
So now, I guess my position on this chivalry thing.
03:38:17.120
So in order to demand or, well, here's the thing.
03:38:21.100
I think even completely strumpet, modern, promiscuous women.
03:38:30.140
You can still get chivalry because men know it's most effective.
03:38:35.580
Most effective tactics available if any of you play video games.
03:38:39.600
Now, the meta in dating, regardless of how non-traditional the woman is, women still enjoy traditional treatment.
03:38:47.600
Now, from a bird's eye view, that's fucking bullshit.
03:38:50.080
But you still, even completely feminist, liberal, progressive women, a lot of them still insist on men holding up their end of the deal when it comes to traditional gender roles.
03:39:01.220
My position is, in terms of what's bird's eye view, looking down at the chessboard, what's fair, what makes sense, men should not be chivalrous to a woman unless she's a lady.
03:39:16.540
But the reality is, if you're a sex worker, you're not a lady.
03:39:23.100
In the dynamic, when I say that, obviously you're female.
03:39:26.420
When I say you're not a lady, you're not a lady in the fair exchange of he's a gentleman, you're a lady.
03:39:34.600
So, while I understand, like, look, we got some OnlyFans girls here, you know, I'm sure you guys get asked out by men.
03:39:43.680
I'm sure they'd be more than happy to pay for the date and open the car door and be a fucking simp and do all this shit.
03:39:51.000
I understand you might get it and you enjoy it.
03:39:55.520
I think it's unfair to expect it, given your own position.
03:40:04.460
So, by virtue of you guys being sex workers, I don't think you should expect or you deserve chivalry.
03:40:13.620
So, because we're sex workers, we deserve less.
03:40:20.720
But my framing would simply be, if you are like men, you need to meet this traditional standard.
03:40:29.160
It would occur to me that it would be fair that you as the woman, and look, I think being traditional is not a, it's not a binary.
03:40:39.580
So, I think you don't need to be like 100% perfectly trad.
03:40:45.220
But I think it needs to be a prox, there needs to be an approximation of equality in the trad trade-off.
03:40:54.740
In today, 2026, you got women who are liberal, progressive, modern, feminist, boss babe, sex worker, promiscuous women.
03:41:08.780
However, you want men, you basically want men to be 1950s bachelors and adhere to, okay, he's got to protect me, he's got to be willing to provide, he's got to pay for dates, he's got to be chivalrous, he's got to do all these things.
03:41:34.980
So, as the sex worker, I don't believe that you're holding up your end of the traditional deal.
03:41:42.840
And so, look, I understand, you probably still want it, you can probably still get it, because, again, meta, most effective tactics available.
03:41:51.240
So, I think it's, can, I can make arguments for why I think it's, like, kind of bullshit to pay for the first date.
03:41:57.480
But a lot of, I advise men to do it regardless, regardless of how unfair or fair, whatever it is, because it's the most effective tactic available.
03:42:06.320
Now, and, like, it's either, for some women, oh, okay, you want to go 50-50, it's going to be neutral or negative.
03:42:17.440
But if we're actually having an investigatory conversation about these gender dynamics between men and women, yeah, it's a fucking raw deal for a man to be chivalrous, do all these things, for a woman who's a fucking, it depends what factor it is, but who's a sex worker.
03:42:37.380
I'm not saying that to be mean or whatever, I just think it's the truth.
03:42:44.640
But that's also why I don't date, I choose not to, because I don't, I honestly don't think that a man deserves that in a relationship, like, genuinely.
03:42:55.700
Like, if you're going and dating, like, you shouldn't be doing porn.
03:43:02.860
I mean, I guess, yeah, obviously, like, you can feel that way.
03:43:10.900
I don't think just because of my job, I shouldn't be treated with respect, especially in my case where...
03:43:20.900
Because I want to, I'm not advocating that because a woman does sex work or she's a feminist or a liberal that she should be treated poorly or disrespected or abused in a relationship.
03:43:34.340
I think at least in my case, because I guess I can only give myself as an example, I feel like chivalry is the least I deserve.
03:43:41.560
Especially if I am planning for my future husband to provide literally everything.
03:43:47.400
Wait, you just said you want, you want to be the one who works and you want the guy to stay at home.
03:43:56.520
Like, put the toilet seat down, treat me like a lady.
03:44:04.620
It depends what we're talking about, but it can.
03:44:14.620
Generally speaking, when it comes to the gender dynamics between men and women, is there a burden or an expectation on men that the man be willing to sacrifice himself to some degree to protect the woman?
03:44:27.080
So it might not mean death necessarily, but, like, he would have to put himself in harm's way to protect you.
03:44:35.960
Yeah, but I understand that you women might have the urge to, like, oh, well, I would give my life for my husband, but I think there's a difference here.
03:44:44.580
I don't think you're going to be appraised negatively by a man if you're not willing to do it, whereas society and the individual woman you're dating, if you're not willing to protect her in certain circumstances, you're going to be negatively appraised by your girlfriend or by society or both, most likely.
03:45:04.060
So in this instance, if we're talking about the ultimate manifestation of trad rules or chivalry, protect, that literally entails men have to be willing to risk their life for a woman, which is pretty much a bigger sacrifice than I think anything a woman could do.
03:45:23.140
I mean, women birth children, that's a sacrifice in itself.
03:45:27.940
Yeah, and there is a risk of death when it comes to mortality from childbirth, but I don't think it's the same as, like, actually dying.
03:45:37.000
Like, some women do die, but most women don't from childbirth.
03:45:40.800
And look, it's painful and it's stressful and it has an impact on your body in various ways.
03:45:45.720
And so, yes, that is a sacrifice that women do.
03:45:51.400
Okay, I mean, this argument that, okay, well, women's sacrifice to men is that they're having children.
03:45:56.800
Most women are not doing a really good job of that.
03:45:58.400
And a men's sacrifice to women is the hypothetical he has to protect her and jump in if there's someone threatening her.
03:46:08.320
And there's the burden of having to have kids and risk your life.
03:46:12.500
Right, but you would, like, how many first dates have you been on?
03:46:28.320
Have you had children with any of the men who took you on the first date and they paid for the date?
03:46:36.820
It's this argument that, well, men should pay for dates because women have children.
03:46:41.100
It's like, well, maybe this would make sense in the 1950s when a woman maybe went on, like, three first dates.
03:46:48.800
And the third guy she went on a date with, she marries at the age of 18.
03:46:54.500
Now women are delaying marriage, childbirth until their late 20s, 30s.
03:47:00.440
By the time, like, you take your modern urban city woman and she's married and has kids, she's been on a hundred dates and she hasn't given any of those men children.
03:47:11.740
So it's like, well, men should pay for first dates because women have children.
03:47:14.860
But do you expect a man to jump in front of a gun on the first date with someone to protect his woman on a first date?
03:47:27.780
I mean, I don't know if the man would do it or there would be an expectation.
03:47:32.480
I would say that there is an expectation on men if, in this rare hypothetical situation, you are on a first date and some shit does go down.
03:47:39.920
If the man cowers in some sort of way or he doesn't rise to the occasion, assuming in this super rare situation where, I don't know, some crazy shit happens on a first date.
03:47:51.140
But, yeah, the women in society will really strongly negatively appraise the man who cowered.
03:47:59.620
I personally feel like if it's the first date, then I don't think he has any obligation to protect her.
03:48:06.180
No, but I think if on a first date a woman made a determination that the guy's a pussy, there's not going to be a second date.
03:48:13.960
So there is, like, even if it doesn't go down there, if there's a sense that, I don't know, I saw this video, maybe it was in Costa Rica, some streamer chick or something got her streaming phone snatched.
03:48:32.820
But the guy did nothing and everybody clowned on the guy.
03:48:43.960
Was your argument or your reason that you would deserve the chivalry is because you are financially taking care of everything and so you deserve that respect as the financial provider?
03:48:57.180
Or was it just, you know, innate whether you were making money or not?
03:49:03.480
And I think it's just common decency, especially while you're dating someone, to treat them with chivalry both ways.
03:49:17.220
I mean, what you're talking about is being polite and being courteous, which absolutely, I agree.
03:49:21.480
But chivalry is the expectation that men will essentially prioritize the needs of others, both with their time, with their small actions.
03:49:33.840
So, I'm asking, do you think that all women deserve reverence because they're just women?
03:49:40.100
Do you think you would deserve reverence because you are bringing in money?
03:49:47.140
I think I deserve it because I'd be in a relationship with someone.
03:49:52.760
Well, does he deserve you not being a sex worker?
03:49:56.900
If he doesn't want me to be a sex worker, then he probably wouldn't date me.
03:50:04.560
I guess the idea I'm forwarding here, though, is that, look, and all things are essentially, like, if you don't subscribe to, for example, a Christian worldview, ultimately all things become negotiable.
03:50:18.060
So, you can be the most modern woman ever and be like, okay, well, I want perfect chivalry from the man.
03:50:34.080
I think from an outside perspective, I think that's a raw deal for the guy, but all things negotiable.
03:50:40.080
But, yeah, ultimately, my position is, yeah, I don't think if you're a sex worker, look, if you're a sex worker, you don't deserve chivalry.
03:50:54.820
Even if you say we don't deserve it, I get it anyway, so I don't really think some of us have a problem with that.
03:51:03.960
So, you can pretty much disregard, basically, what I'm saying.
03:51:06.580
This is just, to some extent, it's purely for the sake of conversation.
03:51:16.840
That, regardless of your involvement in sex work, you'll find guys to treat you to a nice dinner and pick up the tab and open the car door and be chivalrous and be dutiful, chivalrous boyfriends to you.
03:51:34.180
I've never not been courteous to someone just because I just, I think courtesy, I'm not talking about courtesy, but go ahead.
03:51:48.040
No, courtesy would be, I would say, mutual, just being polite to each other.
03:51:53.320
Chivalry is typically exclusively practiced by men for women.
03:51:57.320
Well, whatever the opposite is for women, I've never...
03:52:09.020
Wait, oh, there's a really good meme that we can pull up.
03:52:17.040
Mary, it's in the resources memes in the Discord.
03:52:19.100
So, for 99% of dating dynamics, so there's a, it'll probably show them all.
03:53:16.140
Like, you know, the male birds have all the feathers and they do a little dance.
03:53:23.720
And the women, like the female birds, they choose.
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And then they raise, they lay and raise the eggs.
03:53:33.820
I think that in return, chivalry for woman is being a lady.
03:53:37.320
And if you can't be a lady, as in us sex workers, I agree with what you said.
03:53:44.380
Do you close your legs on camera or keep them open?
03:53:59.480
But I think perhaps our starting point is if you're a sex worker, you're not that.
03:54:12.860
I'm not saying you shouldn't be treated nicely.
03:54:16.480
But when we're talking about certain specific gender role behavior, if you're a sex worker, you have abandoned, you have forsaken your part of the social contract.
03:54:32.960
And that deal is men have certain gender roles.
03:54:38.800
If you're not living up to yours, maybe the men shouldn't live up to theirs.
03:54:42.740
Hey, you can still get together and fuck and do whatever you want.
03:54:46.920
Or what about women that sleep with a bunch of people?
03:54:50.140
Yeah, that would be a forsaking of trad gender roles.
03:54:53.320
What if the OnlyFans girl was doing OnlyFans with her boyfriend?
03:55:03.400
So then you're just getting back to we can negotiate whatever we want in our relationship as we can mutually determine we're willing to do.
03:55:12.940
Well, because you guys said the whole reason that it's not a lady isn't a sex worker is because she opens her legs.
03:55:19.380
But if she's opening it only for her boyfriend on camera.
03:55:21.980
Or if she's opening it for multiple people, a bunch of men, what's the difference?
03:55:25.960
So even if she does solo content, even if it's with a boyfriend, it's still sex work.
03:55:38.340
Well, there's other things that can, so a woman could not be a sex worker, but behave in other ways that would ought to disqualify her from chivalry.
03:55:52.300
So this specific, I don't understand the question.
03:56:00.320
Well, there should be an expectation on, so if you're a man and you're a fucking degenerate and you're,
03:56:05.920
you have no path in life, you have no vision, you're meandering through life aimlessly, you have no assertiveness, you have no leadership,
03:56:17.440
you're perhaps an alcoholic, you're a drug addict, you play video games all day to an obsessive degree, to an unhealthy degree.
03:56:25.660
I'm not saying, like, if you play video games in moderation, it can be okay.
03:56:29.840
Although a lot of women have an issue with the video game thing, but that's a separate convo.
03:56:33.900
Then I think it might be a bit unfair to a woman who, like, for example, a guy who's a fuckboy.
03:56:47.880
A woman who's playing a bunch of, or excuse me, a man who's playing a bunch of chicks, running through chicks,
03:56:53.220
and then he wants the, let's say, good girl, the virgin.
03:56:58.920
I mean, I think that that's a raw deal for the girl.
03:57:03.880
Now, she may or may not choose to be with him, but that's a separate conversation.
03:57:07.920
That's the majority of the case nowadays, honestly.
03:57:14.300
A lot of men, perhaps even a higher proportion of women, are not holding up their end of the deal.
03:57:26.260
It's about integrity, protecting your image, and protecting your partner's image.
03:57:30.860
Just like before I came on this podcast, I mean, nobody really knows who I am.
03:57:35.800
But I talked to my boyfriend and said, like, hey, are you comfortable with me saying this, this, and this?
03:57:40.880
Anytime I go out and speak publicly or behave in any way at all, I'm representing not only myself, but my partner.
03:57:49.420
Just like he wouldn't go and do crazy stuff that would make me look bad.
03:57:53.680
Because when you do come together, you're coming together as one entity, as one front.
03:57:57.960
I will respect his, you know, image and everything and be protective of that.
03:58:07.120
And it's also just, yeah, it comes down to kind of having integrity and respecting the intimacy of your relationship.
03:58:15.280
And unfortunately, there's, there's a lot of drama when it comes to, to having sex online.
03:58:21.700
Like, it's, it's not really fair for a majority of dudes, unless they're the rare ones that are into it, or they are willing to accept it because of the other benefits that they may get.
03:58:33.260
But, um, they don't want a bunch of other men having seen their woman's bits.
03:58:43.520
So, I think it's, it's just more about being realistic in what your expectations are.
03:58:49.920
And if you're saying that you want a, um, traditional man, you want a strong man, you want a more, a more dominant man.
03:58:57.100
Um, but you want to make the money and you want him to have no problem with how you make the money.
03:59:14.140
You, you bully, you bully men and, uh, you, uh, stomp on them or whatever.
03:59:19.500
Like, you, do you stomp on their balls or something?
03:59:24.080
I mean, they're definitely your bitch, but, um, definitely your bitch.
03:59:29.760
I don't know if you, when you went back there, did you text your boyfriend or no?
03:59:35.740
Cause there's another one that came through, but I think it's a troll.
03:59:48.540
I think this is the best podcast to play that in.
04:00:06.460
I don't think your boyfriend's given hundreds of dollars to my wife.
04:00:11.920
Unless there's someone that knows your boyfriend and knows you and is trolling the both of you
04:00:15.480
guys, which, especially with how hard they's going, if that's not behavior that he usually
04:00:19.600
exhibits, I doubt that this would be the time he decides to display it.
04:00:27.920
I'm just going to read it and I'm going to have to like omit the parts, but he says,
04:00:34.340
uh, he'll come out and flame the fuck out of y'all.
04:00:44.840
You guys are all strumpets and I'm so glad my girl ain't one of y'all.
04:00:58.040
I mean, she's, I mean, she's at least straightforward.
04:01:14.240
I'll be, I'll be a hundred percent open though.
04:01:21.140
Before we do the looks rating segment, Mary, um, let's show them the Brian's list.
04:01:27.600
So these are, this is a list of just some of my positions.
04:01:30.380
We're not going to cover everything, but if there's anything that you guys want to bite
04:01:44.920
I think they worked for like, I would not want my boyfriend to have any job where he might
04:01:52.080
I don't want them to have a risky job like that.
04:01:54.220
I think that's, it goes the same thing with police and army.
04:02:17.360
Women's career money status doesn't attract men.
04:02:20.220
Oh, what the fuck happened with the example thing?
04:02:22.860
Oh, it's probably when you're pressing the buttons.
04:02:29.080
Well, we were talking about eight non-traditional women do not deserve chivalry.
04:02:55.240
Women should do laundry first time in the house.
04:03:00.160
We already talked about some of the separate beds, bedrooms, submissive, cook, clean.
04:03:19.760
People of color can be racist towards white people.
04:03:26.700
Women who pick bear over men are dumb and sexist.
04:03:29.260
No forced child support where abortion is legal.
04:03:39.680
Going back to when you said Charla's and sitting here being fake, was that a jab at me?
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And is that because, like, I don't fit the stereotype of a sex worker?
04:03:52.720
I was just saying that she is being her real authentic self.
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She's been super honest throughout this whole, like, period.
04:04:00.540
I was about to say, you couldn't even tell us your age.
04:04:03.000
It's just so, I'm not being honest, is what you believe.
04:04:41.220
Do you have a view of, like, what a sex worker should look like?
04:04:49.800
People kept coming at her about her image, and I said that, hey, she is honest.
04:04:55.180
She clearly has some character, and she's being super real and being appreciative.
04:05:03.640
Me just trying to show support for another girl.
04:05:09.620
And maybe that's, though, because, like, we were, like, discussing...
04:05:13.340
I do feel like you've been doing a character this whole time.
04:05:15.460
If you want me to be, like, fully up front, I wasn't going to, like, call it out just
04:05:19.300
because you seem like you can't handle too much confrontation.
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Which has nothing to do with you being a sex worker.
04:05:28.800
I just think that you are a little performative.
04:05:56.540
Because then it's like you're misleading the guy, and then you're not being satisfied.
04:06:08.300
I can't reach the orgasm level, but I don't want my partner to feel like maybe that's
04:06:17.440
And there's nothing wrong with being performative, by the way.
04:06:22.400
Either she really comes, or, hey, better luck next time.
04:06:31.240
There's always round two, or next time, you know?
04:06:39.320
We were going through your list of your stances.
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It didn't look like anyone wanted to bite on any of that stuff, though.
04:06:47.000
Can you pull up to the beginning of the list again?
04:06:50.780
I feel like I missed something really important.
04:07:39.480
I feel like the way that marriage was intended to be, and I usually view more traditional or lean more traditional, it's an equal partnership.
04:07:53.160
I know that both partners give different things.
04:07:56.380
But just like my man will protect me, there's also nothing that I wouldn't do for him.
04:08:04.900
I originally wanted to, you know, we've talked about life stuff.
04:08:08.600
I thought about opening my own business and I have the education to do so.
04:08:15.760
So, I'm absolutely fine with using my skills to support his.
04:08:25.840
I just feel like in a good relationship, it's solid.
04:08:30.440
If you're marrying the wrong people or if you're not approaching marriage with the reverence and with the value that it deserves, then, yeah, it can be a bad deal.
04:08:42.140
How do you know that you want to marry somebody over four months?
04:08:51.380
I never thought that I would be in that position.
04:08:54.880
I was actually a pretty liberal feminist for a lot of my life.
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Like, full, like, neon green buzz cut type beat.
04:09:02.480
Um, and had kind of, like, stepped away for a while.
04:09:08.920
But there's something for a lot of people I feel like truly supernatural.
04:09:16.240
Um, one of the main things that made me realize that I could spend the rest of my life with this person is he is the most morally upright and just good, like, truly good and trustworthy person that I've ever met.
04:09:33.800
And I can look into his eyes and, and know that he will do what is right always.
04:09:41.000
Um, we align on just about everything to the point where it was absolutely uncanny.
04:09:45.900
Um, we will just share different opinions or just be shooting the shit.
04:09:53.580
Um, so, I mean, some people, it might take longer for that time to develop.
04:09:57.920
For me, it was just kind of literally after the first date.
04:10:01.260
The second date we went on was 24 hours after our first.
04:10:04.340
And he came over to help me cook, uh, steak and potatoes for my mom and my sisters.
04:10:09.320
Do you think you truly know this guy after four months?
04:10:13.260
Because, so, we, um, we're actually waiting for, for marriage to have sex.
04:10:18.460
And one of the things that when you are not having sex is you have a lot of time to talk.
04:10:22.860
And the other thing is, is that we don't just hang out to go on cute dates or go to fancy restaurants or talk about this or that.
04:10:29.000
We have had in-depth, deep conversations where I know how he feels about everything.
04:10:35.660
Or most, not everything, because that's hyperbolic.
04:10:39.560
But I know how he feels on the important things.
04:10:49.200
Um, so, and that used to be part of what courting was.
04:10:52.600
Is that you have those kinds of conversations and you iron that stuff out.
04:10:56.140
Now people just kind of find someone that they find agreeable and that they can have fun with.
04:11:03.920
And then eventually they're like, well, what the hell?
04:11:07.240
And that's why relationships don't grow or progress.
04:11:09.200
And that's why I feel like divorce rate, one of the reasons I feel like divorce rates are high.
04:11:13.160
Um, because you don't actually work towards something together.
04:11:36.180
Um, and you should be working towards growth together.
04:11:39.800
Have you, like, like, what if you're, like, since you guys haven't had sex.
04:12:11.840
Uh, my response, though, to the marriage thing.
04:12:24.040
You don't have to answer if it is not, you're not comfortable with it.
04:12:28.220
We have slept next to each other, um, and we snuggle, but we have legit, like, held pretty
04:12:41.800
But if he had a small wiener, would you still like him?
04:12:45.600
Luckily, I don't really have to worry about that.
04:13:01.920
So it was a case where I hadn't waited, never really thought it was important.
04:13:06.180
Um, he didn't wait, never really thought it was important.
04:13:08.760
Um, we, we met each other and decided just because we were so crazy about each other so
04:13:17.220
And then, um, as time went on, we realized, like, this was something that we felt called
04:13:28.120
And two, because we, we were talking about, like, getting married and thought about our
04:13:35.000
wedding night and I, I never cared about having had sex previously before, but then I thought
04:13:41.480
about, like, my wedding night and that, like, if we had sex now, there just wouldn't be
04:13:47.300
Like, there's, there's a lot to be said about self-restraint, about discipline, about, you
04:13:55.780
know, working towards something together and, and creating a, a system where our relationship
04:14:05.020
It's, it's been a new experience for me and one of, one of the most valuable, as difficult
04:14:12.640
Which I agree on because once you build a certain dynamic with a person, it's not necessarily
04:14:22.040
Um, so I, I totally agree that it would make that wedding day a lot more special if you
04:14:29.860
Um, uh, okay, so I might actually revisit the two things from the list that you wanted
04:14:38.920
to talk about, which is the marriage and the age gap convo.
04:14:41.840
I'm going to just write down the note that, uh, maybe to come back to it a little bit later
04:14:46.300
because there's something else I want to get on, but I do have it down.
04:14:49.460
Uh, question though, let's see, we have an article.
04:15:00.940
I, there's a segment we do called big brother, Brian.
04:15:05.540
So because I am capable of being honest with you guys about any topics, if you guys have
04:15:12.440
a question for me, maybe you've wanted to ask a guy who will just give you an unfiltered,
04:15:20.640
So if there's any, like either dating advice or a question, you've always wanted to ask
04:15:24.940
a guy, but maybe, you know, you didn't want to ask a guy friend, I will, I will be your
04:15:40.480
How do you, um, do you even do that as the dom?
04:15:54.240
I mean, I'm not going to get into like a descriptive, like technique based instructional here, but,
04:16:12.740
Like, it's not just like you, you want to approach it, even if you're kind of feigning it
04:16:18.660
a little bit, you're putting on a bit of a performance, you got to act like you need
04:16:30.360
No, it's like, you need, like you need the dick.
04:16:33.260
You need, you need, you have to, you need that.
04:16:37.680
So that's how I'm not going to give you like technical instructions on how to perform a
04:17:19.740
Why is it so like, it's a lot less common for men to get therapy or mental health help?
04:17:30.020
Are you in, well, question, are you in favor of men getting therapy or?
04:17:39.520
I think that there still remains a bit to a degree some stigma, whether you're a man
04:17:50.380
But I think the other thing is modern psychology is not geared towards the male experience or
04:17:59.140
The majority of people in the psychology field are women.
04:18:03.380
The majority of therapists, counselors, it's women.
04:18:09.520
And a lot of them, it skews highly, highly liberal.
04:18:14.360
And so it's like, imagine, take a really masculine man and he's going to go to some fucking blue-haired
04:18:24.800
Um, I think the other component here is that it depends what the therapy is for, but I think
04:18:32.540
that men and women address their issues in different ways.
04:18:39.080
Um, and I, I, I, I don't know if women, female clinicians or female psychologists have the tool
04:18:49.320
set to actually be able to engage with male problems or even if the, even if that does exist for some
04:18:59.540
female therapists, I don't think a lot of them even have the skill or the ability to do it.
04:19:05.160
Also on a general level, uh, a lot of these therapists are in therapy themselves.
04:19:14.480
They can't even address their own issues in their own life.
04:19:23.680
It's kind of like, how are you going to give me advice when you're all fucked up yourself?
04:19:32.060
And I think also, I'm not saying that therapy is completely inappropriate in all instances,
04:19:37.240
but I do think that therapy does not properly address the male perspective.
04:19:44.520
And, uh, also, I think it's kind of in some ways, bullshit, some ways a waste of time.
04:19:56.000
And I agree with everything that you just said and understand your perspective.
04:20:03.280
I feel like a lot of men are scared of vulnerability.
04:20:14.520
Uh, it's certainly possible, but as it relates to therapy, I just, um, I don't think therapy
04:20:23.840
So I honestly think even if you're inclined to getting that sort of thing, I think chat
04:20:35.540
Like I actually think if you talk to chat, not that I do this, but like I've had, I've asked
04:20:41.100
chat GPT about like historical shit and I'm like, damn, like chat GPT is smart as fuck.
04:20:46.560
And, uh, I actually think AI, like talking to AI would probably be better than therapy,
04:20:53.680
But, uh, somebody is going to be upset by that.
04:20:56.140
But I look of the people, you know, that go to therapy, have they resolved their shit?
04:21:07.780
Maybe it acts as a, it, it, um, pacifies you maybe a little bit.
04:21:16.700
I think like, and there's certain therapies where like marriage therapy, bro, you're going
04:21:23.360
to get a fucking female therapist and she's going to side with the woman.
04:21:26.380
And it's just going to be, you go to marriage therapy, relationship counseling, she's going
04:21:37.200
Um, so I don't think it, a lot of people, it helps them even, even if they've been in
04:21:49.740
But like the people that are in therapy, uh, sort of aimlessly doing a talk therapy, they're
04:21:56.200
vaguely unhappy, uh, or, you know, they're for treating depression, for example, uh, maybe
04:22:06.240
But I think if you're vaguely unhappy or you're vaguely depressed or maybe severely depressed,
04:22:13.020
I think a better approach would be, let's not put you on medication.
04:22:16.760
Let's not have you talk to a fucking, uh, we're going to trans the kids person.
04:22:25.220
And if you're still depressed after you've tried to improve your life or you have improved
04:22:32.360
But it's like, wow, okay, you're, you're, uh, your money's all fucked up.
04:22:41.420
You're eating poorly, all these factors correct for those things first.
04:22:46.000
And then if you're still depressed after that, like, how about this, uh, get a six pack and
04:22:51.100
And if you're still depressed after that, then go to the therapy.
04:22:55.680
It like, it helps point people in the right direction and like, oh, you're feeling this
04:22:59.800
Your therapist will maybe say, try to work out or try to improve this relationship.
04:23:03.700
Why would you need to go to a therapist to receive that information?
04:23:09.820
Well, I wouldn't almost be common sense, but I, therapy should definitely be more than
04:23:14.340
if therapy is effective, it should definitely be more than just, well, I think you should
04:23:20.020
You should get, you should get your diet right.
04:23:22.000
You should get your, uh, you know, maybe you got to do some blood work, see what's going
04:23:26.200
Maybe like, it's more complex than that, but that's how it is trying to resolve some, something
04:23:36.620
I think that, um, I think that, um, my perspective is, uh, I don't know.
04:23:46.700
I also, this idea of like lingering, then it's your story.
04:23:53.220
I identify as being depressed, uh, self-fulfilling prophecy.
04:23:57.860
Honestly, I think when, with issues, things that bother you, uh, I've always, at least
04:24:03.460
my experience, and I, maybe this isn't your experience as, as women or even the experience
04:24:08.720
When I've had, uh, like when I was growing up and I was dealing with something, you know,
04:24:14.160
uh, frustrating or I was upset, my parents would be like, oh, do you want to talk about
04:24:19.460
And when I, what I found was when I talked about it, it's like relive, relive, relive.
04:24:30.300
And then I had other instances where they're like, do you want to talk about it?
04:24:33.320
I'm like, uh, I'm upset, but nah, I'll be good.
04:24:35.860
I'll, well, I didn't say this, but, uh, no, I don't really want to talk about it.
04:24:41.580
And so I actually find that sometimes the shit that bothered you on Tuesday by fucking
04:24:54.920
And like figuring that out, at least that's how I use therapy as a tool.
04:25:07.300
Look, I'm not saying you can't learn lessons or there aren't some positives in therapy.
04:25:12.760
It's going to be very therapy therapist dependent.
04:25:16.240
Obviously there are better therapists than others.
04:25:19.080
I also have an issue with just conceptually with this idea that there just seems to be
04:25:24.640
like a degree of affirmation in therapy, gender affirmation.
04:25:30.800
Uh, you go to a therapist and you, you send your fucking 10 year old kid to a therapist
04:25:36.320
and, uh, the, the, your kid is confused and they're like, well, uh, you know, uh, I, I have
04:25:44.760
maybe some more feminine interest and you have a son.
04:25:47.900
Now your fucking therapist is going to put them on the fucking railroad track to affirming
04:25:53.280
this fucking nonsense and they're going to trans your fucking kid.
04:25:56.940
And so it's like this idea that, I don't know, I feel like therapists are going to be
04:26:05.960
I don't know if therapists can actually stand up to their clients and be like, nah, you're
04:26:15.520
Uh, no, the therapist is going to be like, oh my God, your, your boyfriend, he, he might
04:26:24.280
It definitely depends on the therapist for sure.
04:26:26.360
But, oh my God, your, your boyfriend is slightly conservative.
04:26:34.480
You go to a liberal therapist and you tell your therapist, my boyfriend is based and conservative.
04:26:41.820
Your therapist is going to make you dump your fucking boyfriend.
04:26:47.340
I think they'll call you out and be like, actually, you can, you should consider this
04:27:01.620
That's what he, that's his point is that most therapists are just going to enable you
04:27:29.760
It's really, you know, us men, we're very simple.
04:27:31.520
Do you have any like emotional comforts that a woman can provide for you?
04:27:36.400
Like, uh, like before we go to bed, she should like scratch my back or massage my back.
04:27:45.040
Like an emotional comfort would be, for example.
04:27:52.660
Like talking about, um, if something happened at work or something that happened throughout
04:27:57.240
your day that made you upset to have your woman ask you what's wrong and make you feel
04:28:03.560
better and maybe bring up your mood instead of you being upset.
04:28:06.100
I mean, look, if I'm inclined to talk about it with my girlfriend, um, if I want to relay
04:28:11.080
the problem to her, but my, at least my experience and I, maybe other men operate differently.
04:28:17.340
If I have a bad day at work, I don't want to look, if it's like interesting, I might relay
04:28:23.600
it to my girlfriend, but, uh, generally, uh, and part, I don't know.
04:28:29.780
Um, part of, at least I, I, maybe I draw inspiration from my dad, my dad never fucking complained
04:28:40.780
My dad, very stoic, um, and just never complained, just never, uh, would bring, uh, he'd never
04:28:57.620
He, and maybe that, you know, had an influence on me, but I, I could go through some like
04:29:05.300
crazy shit, like some crazy shit could have happened 95% of the time.
04:29:10.380
I'm not dumping that on my girl, not dumping on my, now look, sometimes I might ask for her
04:29:15.480
thoughts or if it's like something really interesting, I might be like, yo, guess what
04:29:19.200
happened, but generally, no, I'd rather just my process for dealing with frustrating things
04:29:26.460
is not, let me talk about it and relive it and get frustrated all over again by talking
04:29:39.960
Let me, and then realistically, I'm sure you guys would agree.
04:29:43.740
Wouldn't you agree that 95% of the shit, like, have you ever been pissed off at
04:29:50.640
A week later, are you even thinking about that, that thing that bothered you?
04:29:57.020
Now, look, obviously there's things that can be long-term ongoing issues, but certain things,
04:30:03.700
it's like, eh, I don't, I don't need to talk about it.
04:30:07.940
But for me, it helps to get over an issue like that specifically by expressing my, my emotions
04:30:13.760
and possibly getting another perspective on the situation.
04:30:17.260
I think one of the cool things that you can do is straight up asking, like, hey, are
04:30:23.940
They say, nope, some shit went down at work today.
04:30:31.240
Or do you want to just kind of move on right now and, like, do something else and we don't
04:30:35.460
And kind of just ask and give them the opportunity.
04:30:40.280
And I think, like, asking is, like, one of the, like, ways to, um, ways to support and
04:30:46.200
then just kind of honoring the request from there.
04:30:48.560
I also think that, I mean, I can, there are some issues that cannot be solved.
04:30:54.920
Now, you might say, well, you could go to the therapist to figure out how to cope with
04:30:59.020
But, like, for example, for me, um, like, I have various chronic pain issues.
04:31:06.340
And so, uh, and that's a, that's a frustrating component of my life that's ongoing.
04:31:13.060
But I actually genuinely think if I went to a therapist about it and wallowed in self-pity
04:31:18.160
about my chronic pain issues, it would actually probably, uh, there's a mind, there's a, what
04:31:26.880
And thinking about these things, I think, can actually amplify physical pain.
04:31:31.980
If you wallow, like, like, if you actually, uh, think about the pain and you, you're upset
04:31:40.080
by the pain and you talk about the pain and you relay to the person about your issues,
04:31:45.700
it, it, I don't know the right, uh, analogy here.
04:31:52.980
I mean, it is real, but it makes it your identity.
04:31:56.040
And so, when it comes to my chronic pain issues, um, like, I, I don't think, I think
04:32:03.560
going to a therapist would actually, like, my pain would actually increase.
04:32:10.140
I'd be talking to, how do you feel about your pain?
04:32:16.340
Now I'm thinking about how much it fucking sucks and I'd be upset and I'd get all frustrated.
04:32:24.040
And then you're like, uh, that's going to have an impact on your pain.
04:32:29.640
If you're stressed, you're chronic, you can have flare ups and stuff.
04:32:32.360
So there are just things in life as a man or as a woman, you just, you accept what is,
04:32:42.140
even if that thing is negative, you tolerate it, you deal with it, you cope with it.
04:32:46.300
And I think going to a therapist, some liberal fucking woman, oh my God, I have chronic pain
04:32:52.940
It's just not, they don't, what are they going to do?
04:32:56.620
Even if you go to a doctor, doctors hate chronic pain people because there's not a solution
04:33:03.900
There's not a solution unless they pump you full of meds.
04:33:10.760
Doctors do not like chronic pain, uh, patients because they don't really have an answer to
04:33:16.220
So it's like, it's just something you accept and it's something I accept.
04:33:21.180
But if I went to a therapist to talk about it, well, how do you feel about the,
04:33:29.940
So I moved through life with the problem and I accept it.
04:33:35.640
What if you have a disagreement with your girlfriend?
04:33:41.500
So I believe it sort of depends what I think women have a duty to, because I think sometimes
04:33:56.620
So I think situations in a relationship that the man doesn't even assess as bad, the woman
04:34:04.080
will assess something, whether real or imagined as bad.
04:34:08.080
I do think in some situations, women need to regulate their desire to pick a fight and just
04:34:20.400
But like, sometimes I'll be with a girl and she'll say something.
04:34:24.000
Now there's sometimes you have to set a boundary.
04:34:28.560
But there are some times like a girl says something fucking stupid.
04:34:31.100
And I'm like, yeah, is this worth picking a fight over?
04:34:36.040
So I think you, in a relationship, whether you're a man or a woman, there's a degree of
04:34:43.220
But, uh, so I do think women should have a duty to self-regulate and not be fucking nagging,
04:34:50.580
annoying, uh, on your case about certain things.
04:34:53.760
But other things, yeah, I think you should be able to have a conversation about.
04:35:19.160
It's too, I'll read it, but I can't show it on, on the thing.
04:35:22.580
Can you do like a code word with your boyfriend, see if it's really him?
04:35:44.420
Chair three, you're the most beautiful creature I've seen in my whole life.
04:36:01.140
Uh, I don't know if it's, should we, it's, uh, Nick Fuentes.
04:36:15.560
Uh, so I was thinking maybe we could react to it.
04:36:41.100
Well, I guess I'll play the video, uh, once the pizza's here, but, uh, good times.
04:36:47.660
Um, oh, big brother, Brian, somebody had advice on something or wanted advice.
04:36:54.800
Well, for that one, does anybody have something different though?
04:37:15.200
Step four, you get your, uh, I don't know what you do actually.
04:37:49.680
We talked about the not wanting to get married thing.
04:37:53.040
Uh, you said you dated a guy from Minnesota that punched you in the face.
04:38:00.940
And he left you on the side of the road mid January.
04:38:26.920
That is like, if you're going to be crazy, you got to make up.
04:38:33.800
So I started dating this guy, kind of dating, you know, he was from Minnesota.
04:38:38.720
I'm from Oklahoma, but he made the drive all the way to Oklahoma.
04:38:49.200
So I was like, okay, well next time I'm going to come and visit you.
04:38:52.320
So about three weeks, a month later, something like that, I take a plane to Minnesota.
04:39:05.800
And he picks up a bag of Coke and starts doing Coke in the truck.
04:39:10.500
And I'm telling you, he's a beautiful, tall, blonde man with a mullet.
04:39:16.640
But he picks up this bag of Coke and he starts kind of getting like a little, little strange
04:39:23.660
And I'm like, oh God, I didn't know you did drugs.
04:39:26.600
Now you're, now you're getting a little strange on me.
04:39:29.540
And he insists I leave my phone at the hotel before we go out.
04:39:35.600
But you know, like if you don't want me to be on my phone, like no problem.
04:39:41.240
I'm like, yeah, if you want me to leave my phone here, you know, whatever.
04:39:43.520
But I didn't, but I left it in the truck when we went inside to eat dinner.
04:39:48.280
Well, while we're eating dinner, mind you, I can't see without my glasses.
04:39:52.360
I can't, I can hardly see what the fuck's over there.
04:39:56.000
While we're at dinner, you know, we're, you know, getting drunk, you know, he's off cocaine,
04:40:02.420
And he accuses me of looking at another man and punches me in the face.
04:40:14.760
Well, I couldn't see without my glasses, but now you just punched me in the face.
04:40:18.620
So we go back to the truck and he, and he's like, you're going to call the cops on me.
04:40:29.400
And I'm, I'm sitting there like, I can't even see fucking two feet in front of me, dude.
04:40:34.840
And we're in the truck and the whole time he's like, you're going to call the police on me.
04:40:40.000
Like when we get back to the hotel, like I'm fucked.
04:40:43.040
This is not like, dude, I don't care about the police.
04:40:52.600
And he insisted that I was going to call the police on him.
04:40:56.020
And he was like, you need to get out of my truck.
04:40:58.740
Mind you, we're 20 minutes away from the hotel.
04:41:02.120
I have a dead phone because he didn't want me to have my phone, probably on purpose.
04:41:11.200
He kicks me out of his truck and I'm in Minnesota in January.
04:41:18.880
And I'm walking along the sidewalk, like on the highway.
04:41:22.640
I was on the side of the highway with pretty much a busted ass face.
04:41:31.520
Like I try to get into another relationship and this shit happens.
04:41:48.180
And I'm like, there's got to be a gas station somewhere.
04:41:50.480
And I'm walking for about 20 minutes and I finally find a gas station.
04:41:58.360
Like, and I just sat there and I broke down in tears.
04:42:07.440
Well, ends up being two drug dealers and a truck.
04:42:11.280
And I'm like, this is my only fucking chance I got.
04:42:14.640
It was literally like God came down from the heavens and was like, dumb bitch, here you go.
04:42:19.200
And I'm like, holy fuck, okay, this is my only chance to get back.
04:42:22.680
And I come up to him and I'm like, please, God help me.
04:42:35.220
And I give them the last hundred dollars of my, what was in my wallet.
04:42:41.400
And he takes me back to the hotel and guess who's waiting for me there?
04:42:45.780
Oh, yeah, Minnesota man's waiting for me with this bright red pickup truck.
04:42:54.880
I'm like, oh, no, this is, I'm about to get some fucking revenge.
04:42:58.400
So I go up to the hotel room and it's some reason my key doesn't work.
04:43:05.860
I'm like, bro, you literally just fucking kicked me out and freezing cold made me walk all the way down the highway for 30 plus minutes only to end up in a stranger's fucking vehicle.
04:43:15.860
Like you could have fucking got me killed, raped, fucking God knows what would happen.
04:43:23.600
And he's like, well, you're looking at another man.
04:43:29.820
And it took me about two hours to get him out of my hotel room of the banter and like back and forth.
04:43:46.660
And finally security had came up there and he kind of like pushes me into the bathroom.
04:43:56.460
And so I just continued to just argue with him until I'm like, hey, you just put my life in danger.
04:44:03.220
And I hope someone's going to forgive you, but it's not me.
04:44:06.720
And I want you to get the fuck out of my hotel room.
04:44:08.860
You know, obviously that went down for two hours.
04:44:10.740
And then after I get him out, he's laughing with the security guard downstairs.
04:44:14.720
And after that, it took like another hour for him to leave.
04:44:20.140
So not only did he put someone who's a mother at fucking risk to die, he just left me out in the cold.
04:44:30.840
But, you know, you live and you learn to, you know, even if you like someone, you never know what they might be up to later on.
04:44:40.060
We have, I'm going to go to the questionnaire here.
04:44:44.240
Kitty, you circled women are the primary victims of war, not men.
04:44:59.140
Women are affected by war just as much as men, even though we don't fight.
04:45:08.940
So just what's your position on that with you first?
04:45:11.880
I've read a lot of horror stories about war and that, how the women and children aren't involved, and yet they are involved.
04:45:17.860
Like, they've been, I don't know if I can say it.
04:45:21.580
They've been, like, harassed in front of their family, in front of their kids with multiple men.
04:45:26.000
And they, and then the children, too, like, they're being, like, bummed, you know, and I don't think.
04:45:39.860
And I don't think the children should be involved.
04:45:41.860
I believe they, like, the women and children should be, like, escorted out or something and not just in the crossfire or be taking their clothes off or stuff like that.
04:45:52.420
Yeah, so, I mean, the claim here is not, though, at least my claim, is not that, so it's obvious in wartime everybody does suffer.
04:46:05.960
But the claim is about who's the primary victim.
04:46:14.600
But it's, I don't really see a particularly compelling argument that women suffer more than men.
04:46:31.420
Just because they're not sacrificing themselves?
04:46:34.640
So, you'd agree that oftentimes with war there tends to be, and it can go back and forth, but let's talk about the United States.
04:46:48.240
Of the wars that the United States has been in, perhaps absent the Civil War, typically the United States, the United States has not been invaded.
04:47:00.400
The United States is going to another country, right?
04:47:03.880
So, if we narrow this down to military conflict as it relates to the United States, of the United States population, can you explain to me, of the hundreds of thousands of U.S. soldiers who died in World War I, World War II, Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Middle East, et cetera, collectively,
04:47:25.500
can you explain to me how United States women, for all those conflicts I just listed, have suffered just as much as U.S. male soldiers?
04:47:37.560
I don't think narrowing it down just to the United States is a fair example.
04:47:41.100
Well, this would apply to other countries, too.
04:47:44.680
So, other countries, their female citizenry is not being attacked.
04:48:00.740
Well, I mean, it would even apply in general, though, because the United States experience, that is a, to some degree, although a bit unique, is a microcosm, a little bit as to how war works.
04:48:21.820
And now, of course, if the invading country, you know, gets into your territory, then, yes, the women can definitely be victims.
04:48:34.120
You know, if there's bombing campaigns, then, I mean, it depends which conflict we're looking at here.
04:48:41.140
This would, of course, include boys and men who are civilians.
04:48:54.620
So, my argument is coherent in general and in totality and in individual cases.
04:49:00.900
I mean, maybe there's stories of men getting, like, booty-tickled in war, but I'm mostly seeing women.
04:49:10.760
Okay, well, so, so, I acknowledge that women are essayed during wartime.
04:49:15.760
However, we would have to do a sort of comparison of suffering and victimization.
04:49:26.280
So, my question to you is, how many men are you willing to let die to prevent one rape?
04:49:39.000
That's completely fair, because it would, it's trying to categorize the degree of suffering.
04:49:45.220
So, if it's the case that in, we can look at historical examples in almost any war that you could point to,
04:49:54.920
it's, there have always been more men who have been killed than there have been women who have been essayed.
04:50:01.340
So, if, if your argument is, well, women get essayed in war, therefore, women suffer just as much as men,
04:50:07.840
or even some people argue they suffer more than men,
04:50:12.000
then, essentially, you're going to have to put forward,
04:50:15.520
how many men are you willing to let die to prevent one rape?
04:50:26.280
Okay, well, then they get, like, raped in front of their kids, even their husbands, and then they get shot.
04:50:33.620
Well, some of the men, there's definitely been rape of male, of men in wartime.
04:50:38.940
But look, for the sake of the argument, I'm willing to grant that this is something that impacts women way more than men during wartime,
04:50:49.020
I don't know the actual statistics, but I'm willing to just go ahead and say, yeah, it's probably the case.
04:50:53.560
Yeah, I'd rather get sexually assaulted than watch my older brother die.
04:50:57.280
I'd get raped fucking 20 times before I'd watch my, one of my brothers or my dad get shot in front of me.
04:51:07.300
And I don't know if this is a bit sensitive, but in terms of just yourself, would you rather be killed or would you rather be essayed?
04:51:21.980
But I think you could argue that any man that gets hurt in war is also going to affect the woman,
04:51:25.780
because they have a mom or a grandma or a sister, you know what I mean?
04:51:31.520
And staring away from the essay, I mean, when men leave to fight and they're drafted...
04:51:41.240
I think they suffer just as much because it's the women's role.
04:51:47.600
It's been their job to fill the shoes of the men, work their jobs.
04:51:52.260
Also, a country at war, there's a lot going on.
04:51:55.780
I mean, think of Rosie the Riveter, all those women stepping up into that position.
04:52:00.620
Women who've never worked jobs before, working jobs to support their husbands overseas.
04:52:05.360
If you are the offensive country, then you are sending a majority of men to possibly die
04:52:14.160
If you are the defensive country, you are sending a majority of men to almost certainly die and
04:52:20.860
If we're talking about the risk to the civilians, that is a blend of both men and women.
04:52:26.900
It's not just that it's any civilian death is automatically a female death.
04:52:30.800
So, mathematically, women cannot be the primary victims of war.
04:52:41.720
That's not saying that doesn't discount the absolute horrors of war.
04:52:46.440
That does not discount the horrors that women may experience having lost a loved one, having
04:52:56.100
Um, the hurt of being assaulted, once again, horrific, could not imagine, not discounting,
04:53:05.100
not discrediting, but men are the primary victims.
04:53:18.300
How are you going to say that women suffer just as much when a man is getting shot at?
04:53:26.200
And while a woman is at home, in a warm home, with food in the fridge, how are you going
04:53:41.800
I mean, you can say that, like, Russia versus Ukraine's women, like, Russia's women, of
04:53:53.260
War just sends young men to the frickin' slaughter.
04:53:56.160
And once again, if they do survive, and if they come home, the mental health issues that
04:54:05.500
They're lucky if they are able to keep themselves alive and not lose their shit, because war's
04:54:15.340
Maybe just with American women, yeah, you're in your cozy home, but what if you lose your
04:54:20.560
home because you were relying on your husband's income, and now you don't have that anymore?
04:54:23.960
And what about other countries where maybe they don't have cozy homes to live in, and they're
04:54:29.920
They might not be fighting or sacrificing their lives, and I totally give that credit.
04:54:34.160
I know that is so- I can't even imagine how horrible that is, but they suffer just as
04:54:43.180
What is worse, having a bad life or having no life?
04:54:50.920
If you have no life, if you're dead, you're not suffering.
04:54:52.900
If you have no life, then you're not suffering.
04:54:57.100
We're not talking about, like, victims as, like, suffering.
04:55:03.460
Everyone in Gaza right now doesn't have a home.
04:55:22.560
There's five slices, so you guys are gonna have to fight for, um, no, we'll probably order
04:55:29.700
Who's- Who's super hungry and definitely needs to put something in their tummy?
04:55:47.860
Wait, put it center and just show the hands again.
04:56:03.120
Pizza- Pizza situation got scuffed, but it's here now.
04:56:07.340
Um, I'm gonna move it on, but just, I guess, final thing here.
04:56:13.040
So, you said, well, yes, of course, it's terrible that these men die, but, like, the family suffers.
04:56:17.580
They lose just as much because they're going through the tragedy of losing.
04:56:24.400
Not just dealing with, like, the tragedy of a loss.
04:56:37.160
If you don't have a good physical environment, you're taking care of your family without your
04:56:46.840
Being displaced from your home and having to pay extra money and figuring out how-
04:56:51.880
You're watching your buddies get shot in the head.
04:56:54.380
While I'm just chilling, waiting on some green beans to get picked on.
04:57:10.720
The, the boyfriend, the husband, the brother, the father of a woman who got raped,
04:57:16.840
suffers just as much as the woman who got raped-
04:57:20.160
Not just because their partner is serving, though.
04:57:23.380
There's other factors, is my point I'm trying to make.
04:57:28.660
So I think the primary victim of a woman being raped is the woman who got raped.
04:57:33.020
I wouldn't, like, so I would also acknowledge if, if, uh, if my daughter or my sister or my
04:57:40.100
girlfriend or my, whatever it is, if she was victimized in that way, that would be really
04:57:47.080
But I would never be like, I'm suffering as much.
04:58:03.680
When a woman is going through pregnancy or giving birth, when I'm sitting there at, at
04:58:08.760
her bedside and she's squeezing my hand really hard, I'm suffering.
04:58:16.300
I am just as much, I don't, pregnancy isn't victimization, but I would use the word suffering.
04:58:21.800
So when women are giving birth, they're in pain.
04:58:24.920
So they're suffering in a way, uh, they're not the victim, but, uh, my suffering is just
04:58:31.540
as much as my wife's when she, cause I see her in pain and that hurts me and she's squeezing
04:58:38.160
my hand really hard and I'm, I'm suffering just as much.
04:58:41.140
I see the metaphor you're making, but war is huge.
04:58:50.020
And yes, I'm not downplaying the soldiers that fight for us, the stuff they see, it's
04:59:01.380
It affects so much and everybody involved suffers.
04:59:08.180
Because I had a protein shake, so seriously, it's up to you.
04:59:28.720
We already talked about the, I think I asked you about the dating with having a cross-eye.
04:59:33.440
I wonder if it's worse as a man to have a cross-eye.
04:59:42.140
Like, I think it's a bigger debuff if you're a man.
04:59:46.500
Yeah, because you can look past it with a girl.
04:59:53.100
But, I don't think guys could get off with that as easy.
05:00:01.000
Well, no, I was banging a guy with a cross-eye for months.
05:00:19.880
Mary, why don't we play this Nick Fuentes video?
05:00:26.720
And so, I think good timing with y'all eating at the moment.
05:01:00.320
You're thinking, I'm going to approach those traditional women.
05:01:07.420
And then this stupid bitch tweets it and humiliates you.
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And by the way, you want to know the best part?
05:01:36.480
That same girl would drag herself across broken glass on fire to beg Chad to have sex with her.
05:01:46.200
But if you ask her out after mass on Sunday, she is going to tweet about it, and everyone in the world will laugh at you.
05:02:01.800
That's not women that got brainwashed in college.
05:02:10.800
That same girl that you worked up the courage to go and approach at mass with your suit on.
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I have my three-piece suit and my pocket watch.
05:02:28.580
The same girl that is ritualistically humiliating you publicly on the timeline.
05:02:36.440
She would drag herself with one arm across a mile of shards of broken glass that are on fire to beg a biologically superior male to fuck her.
05:02:57.180
A beta male has to put on this elaborate performance.
05:03:08.100
And you are making efforts, trying to make her laugh, trying to be funny, keeping up with the banter, texting her, Snapchatting her, thinking about the time you first met, going on a date, elaborate anniversary gifts, elaborate dates, thinking about what she wants,
05:03:24.840
that dress she liked in the store, that restaurant she liked, that thing she saw on TikTok, all so that she will give you a crumb of attention.
05:03:33.420
But do you know that if a biologically superior male walked past her, she would just be drawn to her like how the moon orbits the Earth?
05:03:43.780
The same way that an asteroid orbits the Earth and then crashes into its surface, she orbits the biologically superior male.
05:04:04.540
And listen, you can still get married, and many guys do.
05:04:08.060
You can still get married, and you can still have a girlfriend, and you can still get a woman to love you, but you need to know this about women.
05:04:15.600
Women are the species selecting for the next generation.
05:04:20.520
Women are hypergamous without being bound by Christianity, and they are the species' natural selection process.
05:04:29.580
You know, a guy can be a criminal, have no personality.
05:04:38.060
But if he has, if he hits all those marks, like, she's going to be drawn to him like a moth to a flame.
05:04:45.260
Whereas the jesters, they sort of project all this value and sentimentality into the chase.
05:04:56.360
So this, you know, this is not really a black pill.
05:04:59.780
All I'm trying to do is to tell you to get the sentimentality out of it.
05:05:10.580
You don't project onto it all this meaning and emotion and all this.
05:05:19.300
And what I mean by that is guys are always like, oh, I love texting her.
05:05:42.420
If she is lucky, Chad is getting coffee with her one time and then he is having sex with her.
05:05:49.680
Whereas you, like I said, doing all these elaborate things, she's lying to you.
05:05:54.620
She's on Twitter saying, I pray that this kind of love finds me.
05:05:57.880
And it's a guy showering her with gifts and attention and sending her giant text messages.
05:06:12.740
Anybody have like a strong disagreement with what he said?
05:06:29.400
And it sounded like he just really got hurt by somebody and was kind of like letting it out.
05:06:34.660
Like wrote this whole narrative for us just about a tweet.
05:06:43.260
But it seems like he was hurt and kind of made like a whole narrative about it.
05:06:54.640
I think he's observing a phenomenon when it comes to dating.
05:06:58.320
Well, it seems like he, if he's a virgin, he shot his shot with someone and they didn't
05:07:02.740
I mean, honestly, I think Nick probably has no shortage of.
05:07:21.240
Well, it's not even that, but anyways, that probably sounded a little gay, but no, I mean.
05:07:29.720
I mean, if someone comes up to you and they don't want to be with you or don't want anything
05:07:38.340
I think either a red pill or a black pill, a lot of men have to take is, you know, on
05:07:46.280
one hand, women will tell you, this is what, this is what we want.
05:07:51.500
And then all those rules go completely out the window.
05:07:54.900
As soon as an attractive enough guy, typically a guy out of her league comes into the picture.
05:08:00.040
So it's like, he's definitely speaking, uh, I think that's just like a species thing.
05:08:13.720
It's like, you know, look, I'll give a woman, if a woman has a large labia, she gets, she gets
05:08:21.820
You know, it's like, look, she's not the best cook, but she has a large labia.
05:08:26.980
Um, so yeah, obviously if you're dealing with somebody who's really attractive, maybe a
05:08:32.960
bit outside your league, you're going to tolerate certain things.
05:08:37.580
But I have a question related to this for, uh, the women.
05:08:42.520
Oh, um, who here, um, how long do you typically wait before having sex with somebody?
05:08:49.400
Like, do you have a rule for it is like, well, three dates, the third, some people have
05:08:55.220
Some people have a three week rule that some people have a three month rule, six month rule,
05:09:03.420
Just when it, if it feels, yeah, I'm kind of like if it feels right, but like more of
05:09:07.980
like not on the first date, of course, not on the second, not on the second, maybe the
05:09:12.400
third, maybe the third, maybe the second or no, maybe, maybe.
05:09:17.260
Um, I don't really have a thing, like, I don't really go on, no, no, no, I do, but
05:09:24.260
You just go over to the guy's house and step on his balls?
05:09:27.460
Oh, I would love, that would turn me on a lot, actually, but, sorry, not sorry, but I
05:09:36.880
So if he continuously shows how obedient he is, that's going to be like, ooh, I'm, yeah,
05:09:50.860
So for me, um, I'd say recently, like, again, haven't been trying to date, so like, if I
05:09:57.200
do go out and meet up with a guy, the intention is to fuck straight up, and I will let them
05:10:03.280
But I would say, like, if I date again, I probably, I don't want to say wait till marriage,
05:10:08.860
but I'm definitely going to make them wait a little bit.
05:10:11.080
Mary, could you collect the plates, if you guys want to just pass the plates down to the
05:10:19.540
Um, I'd say when I feel that there's, like, a similar level of commitment.
05:10:25.800
So, of the past few men you've had carnal knowledge of, um, is it, like, the first time?
05:10:36.400
Is it the second time you hang out, third time?
05:10:43.220
Yeah, after the, like, talk of, like, are you seeing other people?
05:10:48.600
And now, but question for all of you, and I'll have the rest of you answer this question,
05:10:52.280
but, um, I guess to add this on, uh, is the guy, like, is the, I'm not saying the guy's,
05:11:01.740
like, being forceful, but, like, is the guy, like, wanting to have sex, and you're the one
05:11:11.740
Like, well, when, when you say, like, maybe it just, maybe it spontaneously happens on
05:11:18.740
the third date, or the first or second date, hang out, however you want to frame it, the
05:11:25.000
guy is going for it, but you're, like, let's wait.
05:11:31.760
I think you got to at least talk to him for, like, a month before you even go on a date
05:11:37.500
Uh, for you, um, what's the, uh, how long do you typically wait before having sex?
05:12:38.920
Um, did you, with your husband, did you guys wait, or?
05:12:51.720
Yeah, um, so I was always definitely more of, like, a interrelationship kind of person,
05:12:57.000
so it would develop over a little while, but I definitely wish I would have waited longer.
05:13:06.400
Now, I don't know if this is the best panel for this question segment or whatever,
05:13:10.420
but, uh, for those of you who said you do kind of prefer to wait, uh, who's your, who's
05:13:36.880
Uh, he texted me, but it was, like, completely unrelated.
05:13:54.560
Sometimes your brain, my brain goes in interesting places.
05:14:33.140
I think it was, uh, two shows ago, we had a, uh, Catholic girl on the show who claims
05:14:43.340
I might, I don't know, maybe she's telling the truth, whatever.
05:14:48.380
And, uh, she was like, oh, I want to wait until marriage.
05:14:52.260
And then I asked this question, okay, well, who's your celebrity crush?
05:14:56.980
She's like, oh, the weekend, some other fucking rap guy who else, I don't, it was like, who
05:15:05.040
And she's like, oh, for them, they can crack right away.
05:15:09.420
And I was like, you're a virgin waiting until marriage.
05:15:12.840
So what Nick Fuentes is talking about is, is, uh, women will break their rules.
05:15:19.840
And, and so we had, we had no better example of that than two weeks ago when you had a
05:15:33.400
Uh, well, do they get to hit within five minutes?
05:15:46.020
I'd already be naked if I heard something close to walls, it was going to be through
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Like that music, his intro, the glass break, he comes out with two beer cans, smashes them.
05:16:06.480
She's getting a little, she's getting a little sweaty over there, too.
05:16:22.360
It isn't just the possibility of death for a soldier, but it's the trauma of taking a life.
05:16:27.820
Women won't even call abortion unaliving so they can absolve themselves of guilt.
05:16:33.660
Men have to actually unalive people in war and then just deal with it.
05:16:48.240
Stifler, ask everyone to rate their own looks, face, body, total.
05:16:53.820
On a scale of zero to ten, you can't pick seven, so it'd be something, I want you to say it like this.
05:17:20.700
Um, I would say six, face, six body, but it's because I'm like starting my period soon, so I don't feel as confident.
05:17:31.580
Can you, can you, can you, can you, can you lower the volume a bit, like maybe 80?
05:17:52.960
So, like, oh shit, um, probably five all the way around, honestly.
05:18:29.500
Yeah, I mean, it's the most red state ever, so.
05:19:24.880
Should we just, yo, chat, should we just allow sevens?
05:19:32.440
I feel like it forces somebody to err on, you know, six or eight.
05:19:38.400
Well, if I can't say seven, so, like, overall, like, a six.
05:19:41.240
Here, I think for overall, maybe we allow seven.
05:19:48.420
Face is worse than body, but I don't want to rate my face.
05:20:18.960
So, face and body, I'd say California 4, Midwest 8, so solid six across the board.
05:20:42.600
Actually, well, I was going to say if I rate you guys, but yeah, we're going to do that.
05:20:49.160
I'll wait until she's back so I can just do it all at once.
05:21:13.220
Maybe the, I'd only really focus here a bit on the, wait, who said Oklahoma 8?
05:21:38.960
No, it's got to be in the hundreds of thousands.
05:21:52.500
I think Tulsa's population might be bigger just because it's bigger.
05:22:12.580
I'll do the 10s because I'll talk about myself better.
05:22:42.560
Probably the biggest detractor, the biggest, uh...
05:23:09.580
Maybe there's a few others, but I'll leave it at that.
05:23:34.400
I think girls say that, but then you ask them, okay, what's a dad bod?
05:24:15.480
You look like a girl who, on a long enough timeline, will commit felonies against you.
05:24:32.340
I shouldn't say it, because I shouldn't put it out there into the universe.
05:25:00.040
I got my boobs done after I've done breastfeed.
05:25:32.460
So, I think your lips are slightly above average.
05:25:49.140
Speaking of the eyes, you have a negative candle tilt.
05:25:55.000
Negative candle tilt is just your eyes are slightly downturned.
05:26:07.800
But, I think I'd give you between a 5.5 and a 6.
05:26:33.800
What the fuck am I going to talk about phenotypes?
05:26:39.560
You have above average, slightly above average female dimorphism, sexual dimorphism in the face.
05:27:00.360
But I'm not going to rate you on your personality.
05:27:15.540
Like, you have a common, phenotypical Asian nose.
05:27:29.420
Aside from the evil gaze that you sometimes do...
05:28:15.200
of facial symmetry and facial harmony because of that.
05:28:20.500
if that wasn't the case on your other characteristics.
05:28:35.800
You know, that's better than what I was expecting.
05:29:33.120
I would say you're, you have unequal facial thirds.
05:29:35.600
So, you have, uh, I would say, like, uh, uh, facial thirds is basically forehead to, uh,
05:29:45.700
eyes, eyes to nose or, uh, eyes to bottom of nose and bottom of nose to chin.
05:29:52.220
So, I would say you have what is, uh, unequal facial thirds.
05:30:03.020
But this is going to impact facial harmony slightly.
05:30:17.600
Um, I think, I just want to take a peek at what the chat is saying.
05:30:44.940
So, I, if I had to attribute words to the rating scale.
05:31:26.140
You maybe see a few of these people a few times in your entire life in person.
05:31:35.860
When you ask, um, if, like, like, if there's been any work done, is that to, like, how does
05:31:47.220
So, I mean, if the, uh, like, lip filler, for example.
05:32:00.880
Well, I mean, so this would come down to preference.
05:32:03.440
And so, I, I think that, um, if you've, uh, frauded, like, full lips, then that, that would
05:32:14.600
perhaps, uh, and I personally don't think lip filler looks good.
05:32:22.080
So, is it like, uh, do you think the natural beauty has, like, effect in the scale?
05:32:30.200
But, I mean, the, the fillers and the Botox and the surgery.
05:32:33.440
Surgery is, they can replicate something that is actually true.
05:32:36.640
Although, I, I find a lot of the time the plastic surgery is noticeable.
05:32:42.240
And sometimes, I think, aesthetically, that looks weird.
05:32:44.800
Like, it can create a uncanny valley appearance.
05:32:48.960
Do you think that's, like, effect, affected the scale as a whole with plastic surgery and
05:33:03.440
But, uh, I would use a scale that does not include women who have had plastic surgery.
05:33:10.220
So, it has to be attainable, uh, naturally to a degree.
05:33:15.700
That's not to say that, uh, I, you know, skincare, I don't think would fall under, uh, an unnatural
05:33:23.900
I'm thinking of, like, injections or when a surgeon cuts into you.
05:33:51.640
But you have above average female sexual dimorphism.
05:33:56.860
Um, your lower, I would say your lower third, perhaps a bit on the weak side, um, a bit
05:34:21.480
You are, you have contoured your nose a little bit.
05:34:24.080
So, maybe that's playing a bit into the, how do I know what that is?
05:34:35.680
Um, perhaps could, eyebrows could be a little stronger.
05:34:46.240
Uh, I'm now giving women all kinds of insecurities they never had.
05:35:04.760
I don't know if she was comfortable rating her own face, so I don't know.
05:35:15.440
I don't really want to say I'm insecure about my face because then I'll get more hate probably
05:35:52.000
Uh, weak under eye area a little bit, but, uh, that can typically be fixed.
05:35:58.500
Um, wait, turn the face towards me a little bit.
05:36:12.560
I, I want to go, uh, probably like 4.75 to 5.25.
05:36:39.040
It's actually difficult when a woman's wearing quite a bit of makeup, you are wearing full
05:37:03.240
I think I'm going to give you a, uh, I think I'll give you a, uh,
05:37:06.620
I think I'll give you five, uh, for you, uh, six, uh, let's see here.
05:37:16.320
I, it's look into the camera or look into the camera.
05:37:27.620
I'd say, uh, lips slightly below average, uh, nice blue eyes, good positive cancel tilt.
05:37:56.260
And I mean like in the comments, I know how that sounded as soon as I fucking said it, but
05:38:18.920
We've turned, we've turned all of you into a man, into men.
05:38:22.820
I could just show you a picture of my twin brother.
05:38:33.140
The question is, would you date the male version of you?
05:38:56.720
Yeah, make him a little more chopped, will you?
05:39:23.220
This guy looks like he's in a shitty punk rock band.
05:39:49.160
I said I wanted to see what Kitty looks like as a boy.
05:39:59.800
You look like you belong on the cover of like a young adult romance novel or something.
05:40:11.300
You look like a shadow daddy in one of my books.
05:41:04.840
I was in, like, a little hardcore band in high school, and it was called Cheating Death.
05:41:23.520
Is that, is that like TBC or is that Wrath of the Lich King?
05:41:32.820
I don't fuck with the Burning Crusade or Wrath.
05:42:03.540
Maybe some of you guys have a Burning Crusade in your pants.
05:42:54.840
You would be lucky to end up with this Filipino.
05:43:23.260
I mean, I can still do an assessment, but it's.
05:43:41.120
But for, yeah, for an Asian male, yeah, he mogs.
05:43:55.420
I feel like the Filipinas and the Vietnamese women.
05:44:09.160
Filipino women, we're amazing, and we're very kind, and we treat you very well, and we
05:44:20.020
You know how, like, Latinas are like, well, I'm a Latina, so I can be toxic.
05:44:25.380
Filipinas are like, well, I'm Filipina, so I can be toxic.
05:44:28.320
You make her mad, she's going to walk you on a leash.
05:45:05.740
I'm going to be honest, I was expecting worse, so...
05:45:09.240
I mean, yeah, maybe we can redo it and they can fuck shit up.
05:45:32.840
I think standards are a little bit different on the man's side.
05:45:44.240
I think you need to give her a compliment when she comes back.
05:45:57.700
I will say something really nice when she comes back.
05:46:02.020
I will say something really nice, and you guys are going to be like,
05:46:23.380
You know how many times that gets commented on my reels, though?
05:46:50.900
I should just send that in as, like, my, like, modeling picture.
05:47:09.360
Dude, the people who are doing these, you are AI-ing the original photo and making them
05:47:20.460
It's like that fucking guy who got murked by ICE.
05:47:35.340
I'm surprised they work well, the features, for a man.
05:47:39.740
You guys look like you're in a lavender marriage, but...
05:47:52.600
That's very sweet, because I have, like, a dad bod stance.
05:48:14.320
Well, with the beard, it's a little bit better, but, like, ew.
05:48:31.380
Hey, Brooklyn, you might want to come back for this one, because...
05:48:43.500
I said, wait, while you were gone, Brooklyn, we talked a bunch of shit about you.
05:48:54.460
I promised the table, when you came back, I would give you a compliment.
05:48:58.920
It's just, I've never had it in person, so that's the first time, like, someone's rated
05:49:06.520
I'm, like, used to it in my comments, but it's never been in person.
05:49:16.680
They begged me to give you a compliment, so I'll tell you this.
05:49:20.520
If you weren't an OnlyFans girl, I would definitely have sex with you.
05:49:40.300
I would have carnal knowledge with her if she didn't do sex work.
05:50:16.420
That comment right there is the catalyst to get her to stop doing OnlyFans.
05:50:21.640
She's like, oh, yeah, I'm quitting making six figures a month for Chubby Brian.
05:50:31.520
How much do you guys make, by the way, on OnlyFans, if you don't mind me?
05:50:34.820
Will you show me off the record after the show?
05:50:39.280
I won't be like, oh, last week Brooklyn made six figures.
05:50:51.820
Well, you got a lot of following on your Instagram there.
05:50:54.760
You got like 600,000 followers or something like that.
05:51:06.280
Fucking Leviathan over here, her fucking Instagram got nuked like before the show.
05:51:15.220
If you pay me $1,000, I could get it back for you.
05:51:20.380
But, yeah, I lost my main account at $710, but my backup has $638, I think.
05:51:29.920
Like, what if I just started getting OF girls pregnant?
05:51:42.480
Alex said if I ever get pregnant, she'll take my kid.
05:51:46.040
She seems to be, like, vague, vague posting about her labia situation, though.
05:52:02.080
Women, you know, like, how guys lie about their dick size?
05:52:05.820
Like, for me, women lie about their labia, and they're like, oh, yeah, it's big.
05:52:11.220
And I'm like, and then I get fucking labia fish, and I'm there, and I'm like, look, I'll
05:52:21.220
You know, no, but, like, look, women say they got an Audi, but it's, like, it's the
05:52:26.840
same thing as women who say they're good at sucking dick.
05:52:50.640
No amount of enthusiasm can overcome a toothy BJ, okay?
05:53:09.620
Would you date, Brooklyn, would you date the male version of you?
05:53:41.080
You look like the female, like you could be the sister.
05:53:46.200
I'm just saying you look like, and by the way, he's a handsome guy, okay?
05:54:04.040
I said, if you wouldn't be an OnlyFans girl, I wouldn't have sex with you.
05:54:08.740
I'll give you one, I'll give you one fuck, okay?
05:54:24.900
I feel like my jokes are not landing very well tonight.
05:54:31.940
I think Brooklyn is kind of in love with me, to be honest.
05:55:22.940
Yeah, especially when it's that time of the month.
05:55:25.900
Is there something you want to tell us, Brooklyn?
05:55:39.460
Some people can be a bit sensitive, and that's okay.
05:56:20.620
It's like they just cut my hair and gave me a beard, but valid.
05:56:28.420
He looks like you shouldn't leave him around children or pets.
05:56:44.460
I'll pay our good friend here another compliment.
05:57:27.240
Are you looking at Brooklyn or are you looking at me?
05:57:36.920
You got beef with my fucking girl, Brooklyn, over here?
05:57:45.040
We're going to blast through some pre-show notes here.
05:57:55.180
You describe yourself as a certified super soaker.
05:58:18.540
I mean, you're going to have to pay for carpet cleaning.
05:58:23.260
I didn't mean, like, an actual physical reference.
05:58:26.480
I mean, if y'all want to see that, go to my Twitter.
05:58:36.860
I don't know if you're actually asking me sometimes.
05:58:44.780
You should have brought the pirate with the skull on it.
05:58:53.040
Like, I feel like if I had an eyepatch, I would crush it with the women.
05:58:57.820
Like, I feel like they'd be like, oh, is he a pirate or what happened?
05:59:08.420
You said your last boyfriend was a serial narcissist, catfish, liar.
05:59:14.440
He claimed to be a cuckold, but he got super jealous.
05:59:20.000
Anytime you would get near a man that was white.
05:59:25.740
So, like, his kink, like, as a cuckold was, like, he was obsessed with watching me fuck black men.
05:59:33.220
And he, I even at one point may or may not have had a video of him sucking a black man's dick.
05:59:44.040
But that's, he's the whole reason I got into content.
06:00:02.380
From what other people have told me as well in his high school life, yes.
06:00:19.140
So, my first year at AVN, it's Adult Video Network, I met, like, this porn star that I've
06:00:26.060
Anyways, I get, like, an email from her a couple months later.
06:00:30.600
Took me about a year to actually get solid proof that it was my ex-boyfriend at the time.
06:00:35.960
Pretending to be a whole, like, porn star trying to be my friend.
06:00:39.060
Like, was actually texting me every day for about a year.
06:00:42.480
And I just, I had, like, thoughts that it was him.
06:00:45.340
Because some of the shit he said, I was like, there had to be.
06:00:47.340
But, like, he was pretty good at hiding shit and worked at Verizon.
06:00:52.340
So, he had ways to check, change his number and do a bunch of crazy shit.
06:01:09.280
Makes sense why he would be jealous of other white women.
06:01:13.920
And, like, it's funny because, like, his, all his friends are bald, too.
06:01:23.540
They all hopped on the wave after he went bald, so.
06:01:36.780
Uh, you said in your notes, the one person prior to my marriage, the mother of my, the
06:01:45.120
Oh, the mother of your ex broke up with you for him.
06:01:52.260
So, you were dating a guy and his, instead of him breaking up with you, the mom broke up
06:02:13.840
Still weird, but it's, like, and you, you were both 16?
06:02:25.740
So, he's, like, you're both living at home, you're both in high school.
06:02:28.460
Well, if it was a 25-year-old, that would be really peculiar.
06:02:34.460
Still kind of peculiar, like, even at that age, but it makes a bit more sense.
06:02:40.040
You said it would be really interesting if the opportunity allowed for the table to be
06:02:43.680
turned and Brian to be asked questions and the chance to get to know more about him and
06:02:49.760
Maybe we did that a little bit, but I'm down to do more if you had things that you wanted
06:03:02.520
I do not, uh, reveal my, uh, dating situation, but, um.
06:03:11.640
The other thing I was curious about, how did you get into this podcast?
06:03:16.860
Uh, when, I mean, I have strong opinions about dating, so, yeah, and I, I'd been doing YouTube
06:03:27.020
before this, and I thought, oh, this would be, like, fun and interesting, and I think
06:03:30.940
people would be interested in it, and I think it'd be successful, so, uh, yeah.
06:03:36.100
Did you have experience with social media prior to this?
06:03:40.120
Yeah, well, I mean, I, the podcast I started in 2020, mid-2022, but I've been doing YouTube
06:03:45.460
since 2012, so I did, like, completely different content, though.
06:03:50.680
I was doing these, like, kind of prank social experiment videos back in 2012, and, yeah.
06:04:23.600
That was so fucking disrespectful, what you just did.
06:04:26.040
I want you, wear this, and stand in the corner, and think about what you've done.
06:05:07.820
Turn, now, okay, now she's being bratty, because I just called it out.
06:05:31.640
I'm like, you need to go in the corner and think about...
06:06:40.280
You've dated men both before and after starting OF.
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The biggest difference wasn't how men treated me.
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Some men who publicly criticize OF were privately the most curious or interested,
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which completely changed how I view the sincerity of that criticism.
06:06:58.860
You know, like, a lot of hate comments that I received, they also follow me.
06:07:06.520
Sometimes they say they don't like it, but then they actually are really fascinated by it.
06:07:16.000
I mean, like, the reality is, like, you probably even on your OnlyFans, you might even get men
06:07:21.540
who message you hate comments on your OnlyFans, and they're, like, subbed to you and sending you money.
06:07:26.180
So I do definitely think that that's a phenomenon.
06:07:30.980
I think a lot of guys, I mean, exactly what you wrote.
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They publicly criticize OF, but, yeah, privately.
06:07:42.640
Like, of course, the guys are, like, oh, she's an attractive woman.
06:07:49.760
Like, look, with the hate that a lot of these women get, one, it's probably fair to say that, realistically speaking,
06:08:01.900
a lot of these girls wouldn't even, like, give a guy a glance like that.
06:08:09.440
But they definitely, like, if they had a chance with the girl, they'd definitely be about it.
06:08:19.620
I don't think a lot of people who claim to be principled on that issue would...
06:08:24.120
Yeah, I got people sending me, I'm watching Nick Fuentes in the OnlyFans DMs.
06:08:33.260
That seems like the female version, I mean, the male version of the, even the tweet that we saw,
06:08:39.440
in the Nick video, where it's, I feel like people will, women will mock men for, like,
06:08:46.520
asking them out, and men will mock women for doing, like, OnlyFans or whatever, but there's
06:08:51.020
kind of this general need to feel superior, that even if it's out of touch with reality,
06:08:58.320
even if that's not how they truly, like, legitimately feel, they'll make those comments
06:09:03.720
because it just makes them feel better about themselves to hate on potentials of the other
06:09:08.740
It's definitely a reflection of how they feel of themselves, for sure, and it helps them
06:09:14.420
feel better, and a lot of people, like, actually sit online all day and just hate because they
06:09:27.140
You wanted to discuss whether men actually want traditional women, or if they just want
06:09:32.480
the authority that comes with tradition without providing the stability that traditionally
06:09:59.620
You disagree with the idea that OnlyFans models are inherently damaged, misled, or make
06:10:07.340
You think the viewpoint removes agency from women and assumes they're incapable of making
06:10:12.240
strategic decisions about their bodies, finances, and long-term goals.
06:10:17.020
You're open to debating whether it's right for everyone, but you reject the idea that
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it's automatically immoral, desperate, or incompatible with healthy relationships.
06:10:26.820
So, I think you could be doing, like, I don't think you, like, I think you can do OnlyFans
06:10:33.660
and not do it because you're desperate, and, like, I think you can also have a good relationship
06:10:40.460
I know people in relationships who do OnlyFans, a lot of them are married as well.
06:10:50.460
By the way, guys, we're, oh, I think, did, did we get a raid?
06:11:00.240
It might have been, like, 30 minutes ago or something.
06:11:05.140
Guys, we're dropping the TTS to $69 for the rest of the show.
06:11:28.400
While you set that up, I was wondering if you agree with Kerting.
06:11:33.260
I think that in terms of moral culpability for individuals performing sex work, you have
06:11:46.920
I think that for a lot of people, the feminism movement pushed stuff as empowerment that wasn't
06:11:58.740
I think that a lot of women have been deceived into believing that some things are no big deal, like intimacy is no big deal.
06:12:11.560
For me personally, it's incredibly important because, once again, it's the closest thing that you can do with another person.
06:12:21.900
I know that not everyone feels that way, but I don't think that doing OnlyFans necessarily equates to a moral wrong for the individual performing.
06:12:43.420
I do think that OnlyFans in general is a negative, as I do believe most sex work has a negative impact on society because I think it degrades human connections.
06:12:54.080
I believe that there are probably some happy marriages.
06:12:58.500
I believe that there are probably more people that end up being harmed by the production of porn.
06:13:11.100
I think that a lot of people basically just think that it means that you're a shit person, and I don't believe that.
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I think that some people do it because they need to.
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I think some people do it because they want to.
06:13:24.580
I think some people recognize the hurt and try not to think about it, and because a lot of people can't admit that they're wrong, especially as they get older, because they were so staunchly advocating for something that it's doubly embarrassed.
06:13:41.580
It's literally easier to keep going than it is to backtrack.
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But I think that being able to admit that you're wrong is one of the coolest things that you can do.
06:13:54.480
So once again, you seem like a lovely person, and you're gorgeous, and I have absolutely no judgment on your value or your moral whatever based on your career.
06:14:18.340
But I do think that you are likely incurring damage from your career, and I do think that it might not be relevant to you now, but I do believe that it will be relevant to you in the future.
06:14:32.620
As somebody that personally would most likely get disowned by family and honestly most friends for possibly being in that industry,
06:14:51.440
I'd like to know if everyone's comfortable sharing their relationships with family and friends since they've started OnlyFans.
06:14:59.260
Oh, I still got a great relationship with my parents.
06:15:13.080
So has the sex work had an impact on your relationship with your parents?
06:15:22.560
They say as long as it's consensual and I'm not hitting my boundaries and they're like, we don't...
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I think my parents have benefited more than lack of.
06:15:40.380
Or was it something that you told them before they could find out or something that they found?
06:15:47.240
And then it's kind of like, oh, well, you make this much money.
06:15:51.920
And then it's kind of like, all right, well, let me help you now that I'm making this amount of money since you've helped me in the past.
06:16:04.120
This was the first year I've ever got to actually buy anyone a Christmas gift.
06:16:12.480
So I think that's a huge difference between, you know, silver platter plate and someone who's, all right, well, now here's your silver platter plate.
06:16:24.920
And I was like, well, I could do a bunch of stuff with it.
06:16:27.300
And it's just like, there's anything you can give back.
06:16:29.380
And so morally speaking, you could say, yeah, it's dirt money.
06:16:35.560
But, I mean, at the end of the day, I'm not hurting anyone.
06:16:42.640
They'll actually make TikToks with me, which is fun.
06:16:48.700
He was obviously very upset, which is so understandable.
06:16:54.000
Somebody, I have a theory, who from my high school sent him pictures of me.
06:17:12.680
I would say, like, she does know every single thing I do.
06:17:16.140
She doesn't necessarily support the lifestyle, but she says as long as, like, basically as
06:17:24.980
Is it related to the sex work or other reasons?
06:17:32.220
And I hid it from my family, and I was still working my minimum wage job trying to hide
06:17:36.640
But a tax statement came in, and my parents found out through that way.
06:17:42.280
They were threatening to kick me out and everything.
06:17:44.720
But now I feel like I'm closer than I've ever been with them.
06:17:47.700
And I can help my family and my grandma with dementia.
06:17:50.200
I think my family nags me, because they're like, are you getting stalked?
06:17:58.740
That's, like, the worst part, because I'd rather people hurt me, not my family.
06:18:02.860
Well, they just want to, like, make, yeah, they care about my safety.
06:18:05.980
They're like, make sure you're not getting stalked.
06:18:08.420
Do you think it would be wrong for a father to disown his daughter for being a sex worker?
06:18:25.340
Well, maybe if they became a mass shooter, then probably not.
06:18:34.780
And this is so against what you want for your child, so against just your own values and what you believe in.
06:18:43.360
And you've attempted to guide them in a different direction.
06:18:48.120
Maybe you've even, okay, they started for money reasons.
06:18:54.520
Even if you're going to buy me a car, you're going to buy me all these things.
06:18:57.640
It's not worth it for me as your father for you to do this, even if I have to be in a financially bad position myself.
06:19:08.640
I'd rather be in a financially bad position than for you to do this.
06:19:12.160
I'd rather help you financially if I have the means to do it.
06:19:20.660
I guess the question is, I don't know where I was going with that, actually.
06:19:26.200
I think your parent being, your child being an only guy.
06:19:31.520
Where I was going was, was if you want to correct it.
06:19:35.640
So, basically, you're the parent and you're like, I do not want them doing this.
06:19:50.580
So, I think you should attempt to exhaust all other options until you arrive at disown.
06:20:01.140
Like, I'm not saying OnlyFans girls do it for drug problems.
06:20:04.220
But it's like, okay, do you really need to do it for money?
06:20:26.980
So that you could buy a bag or a fucking fancy car.
06:20:49.140
But it's like, what other option do I have if this is so contradictory to my value set and what I want for my daughter who I love and care about?
06:21:07.040
But I think that, I think shame is a powerful thing.
06:21:11.280
I think the ability to, like, there's a component of a social fabric here where if we don't enforce a degree of social shame or stigma on these things, then it's just, it's free game, fair game for everybody.
06:21:35.980
Well, you cannot like what they do without disowning them.
06:21:40.140
What mechanism as a parent do I have to attempt to prevent my daughter from doing something that I think.
06:21:48.040
So, what I'm doing here is I'm thinking, how can I protect my daughter?
06:21:51.740
How can I prevent her from what I view as making a catastrophic mistake?
06:21:58.660
And there really is very little, you know, when she's an adult, I can do, obviously, when you're an adult, you're your own individual, you can move away.
06:22:08.560
I have really no, I personally think parents should have influence in their children's lives, honestly, throughout their life.
06:22:16.180
Parents should be a guiding force and there should be a level of influence.
06:22:20.680
And I think children, even when they're adults, should show a degree of respect to their parents.
06:22:27.280
But I think that I can't think of a reason beyond the other steps I mentioned to, I think, I'm not doing this from a selfish perspective.
06:22:42.700
I'm doing it from, I think this is a mistake for my daughter to do.
06:22:49.260
Well, I, well, yeah, but, okay, how do, what leverage do I have as the father?
06:22:59.900
Is it worth it for you, my daughter, to destroy the, destroy, destroy the relationship with the family so you can fucking make some money?
06:23:17.500
The ultimatum of, like, this is my last straw, like, you're out of my life.
06:23:26.340
We're going to take care of your basic necessities and we're going to, maybe we can help you get a job.
06:23:30.900
Uh, maybe we can be proactive about helping you, but you, you don't, you don't need, like, man, why are you guys chasing this materialism?
06:23:42.600
What are you going to buy, a fucking Lamborghini?
06:23:45.660
But it's like, look, I'm, I'm speaking on the perspective of if and or when I have a daughter, the steps that I would take.
06:23:54.440
So it's not an immediate, well, hopefully she comes to me and she says, dad, I'm thinking about this.
06:23:59.640
Well, hopefully, actually, it's never even a conversation because, you know, either I've raised her right.
06:24:06.340
Look, but also I, I, I think it can be the case that you can do everything correct as a parent and people are the individuals.
06:24:16.820
You could be a great parent and your kid could still fuck up.
06:24:20.060
Your kid, your kid could still end up on drugs.
06:24:22.280
Your kid could still end up, you know, doing whatever, whatever, whatever, um, end up a criminal, doing sex work, whatever it is.
06:24:28.680
And so I think she, ideally, she comes to me before she even thinks about starting.
06:24:43.700
Then it's like, no, then it goes to, okay, you're doing, you want, you've made your decision.
06:24:49.660
Uh, now I'm not just telling you the bad reasons you want to do it for financial reasons.
06:24:54.460
Come back and live at home and your, your basic needs will be taken care of.
06:25:02.940
So I got leaked, like hacked and leaked and I was getting blackmailed and doxxed.
06:25:13.000
Whoever's doing that should be prosecuted to the fullest, uh, to the fullest extent of the law.
06:25:17.860
I'm not sure in some States they're lagging behind on the revenge porn thing, but, um, that's a hundred percent wrong.
06:25:27.340
I don't know if the right move, if you've been a victim of, uh, revenge porn or somebody leaking your nudes is to just like, well, okay, I guess I'm going to just start doing sex work.
06:25:43.260
Now I don't know if, uh, and then I, I question the, the legitimacy of that a little bit, I want to say, but I don't know.
06:25:55.800
I'm not, I'm not saying you're lying that that happened.
06:26:00.400
I'll take your word for it, but it seems a bit like cope.
06:26:06.580
And well, I guess I can make a fuck ton of money on only fans now.
06:26:10.640
I mean, again, it's terrible that that happened.
06:26:18.600
Um, uh, the, the idea that look, even if a girl did you dirty, you don't, there's certain lines you don't cross, right?
06:26:26.540
You know, look, also if someone fucks you over the, the best revenge is just moving on with your life and just having, uh, you know, improving yourself and, uh, just fucking never talking to them again.
06:26:40.780
But, uh, I mean, probably not a good idea to commit a crime.
06:26:50.540
No, so, I mean, it's terrible that that happens, but I don't know if like in all instances of a woman being victim of revenge porn or leaked nudes, I don't think the pathway is like, well, I guess I got to become a sex worker.
06:27:07.220
I mean, again, it's a bad thing that that happened, but, um, yeah.
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So, but I think for me, it would be, okay, if my daughter told me that, I'm like, the fuck did you just tell me?
06:27:23.900
Okay, you're at fucking college, you're moving fucking back home, you're back under my authority, we're gonna take care of you, and it's gonna be good, we're gonna watch, we're gonna fucking watch movies, you know, we're gonna watch some Netflix and shit, and you're gonna be under my, back under my authority.
06:27:46.740
By the way, probably by the time I have kids that are college age, who knows what society even looks like?
06:27:52.160
It's probably gonna be fucking AI, who's gonna have fucking jobs, who knows?
06:27:56.660
Brian, I fear if your daughter is thinking about starting OnlyFans, she's not gonna listen to you when you tell her to come home and to live with you.
06:28:04.340
Speaking from experience, if your daughter is the type of person to start OnlyFans,
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she's going to do the exact opposite of everything you say.
06:28:18.460
But I think, with a guiding hand, I return her to a state of safety under my, in my household, in my, under my authority.
06:28:32.140
And, but then, yes, eventually, if it gets to a point, if she's like, no, no, no, I'm like, look, if you, if you bite the bullet on this, we're telling you, me and your mom, we're fucking telling you, if you start this shit, goodbye.
06:28:53.680
And maybe at some point, you can reconcile the relationship if she stops OnlyFans, eventually.
06:28:59.120
It took my dad a couple months, um, for him to come around.
06:29:02.780
He was very upset at first, but do you want to know why he came around?
06:29:09.540
I'll, like, buy my parents dinner, but I, I don't financially cover them.
06:29:16.760
His best friend lost her son, who was the same age as me, due to drugs.
06:29:22.400
And I then found the story from his best friend, and she told me, she was like, you know, I didn't know this happened.
06:29:29.600
He kind of just, like, started talking to me again, and I felt like he accepted me, because he did.
06:29:35.200
And she told me that he was complaining about me or something to her, and she looked at him, and she said, at least your kid's alive.
06:29:42.880
And then, when I confronted my dad about it after, he told me, he was like, yeah, I don't agree with what you do, but at the end of the day, at least you're alive.
06:29:50.960
And I'd rather have you in my life the way you are than not have you in my life at all.
06:29:55.860
So what's the point of ever having a boundary, then?
06:29:59.720
I mean, couldn't you say this about almost anything that we find objectionable?
06:30:05.860
Like, obviously, look, with your kids, I understand.
06:30:08.220
Like, I think the love that a parent has for their child is, I mean, you know, I think parents will go through a lot, you know, for their kids.
06:30:26.280
You know, they'll give their life, they'll suffer, they'll do a lot for their kids.
06:30:32.060
But it's like, you have a vision for your children.
06:30:37.560
You have, you want them to make the right choices in life.
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Now, that's not to, look, obviously, your kids are going to make mistakes.
06:30:50.820
They're not going to fit the vision that you have for them just because you have it.
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And that's part of being a parent is you need to accept that they are their own person and they're able to make choices for themselves.
06:31:01.340
And they're going to be whoever they are, whether you like it or not.
06:31:05.960
I think you need to be a fucking based dad and a based mom and be like, listen up, child.
06:31:29.440
Kind of reminds me of this kid from my high school.
06:31:32.320
His family was really anti-LGBTQ and he was gay and he had to hide it forever.
06:31:38.480
And he ended up taking his life because his parents wouldn't accept him.
06:31:54.980
Um, well, so you're saying that like, you're going to like curb it by being like strict
06:32:00.460
and setting down, like laying the law down, right?
06:32:11.140
So when she's an adult, your ability to exert, uh, influence and authority over her life,
06:32:19.780
But I would hope that I have, and again, even if you are the perfect parent, your kid can
06:32:28.500
still end up making massive mistakes or fucking up or whatever it is.
06:32:35.380
Um, and I'm not saying I'm perfect, not at all.
06:32:40.400
But, um, I think there's certain things like, I don't know, I don't know how else to say
06:32:58.580
What are the tools in my toolbox to attempt to prevent that from happening?
06:33:18.520
I think it's okay for parents to be controlling.
06:33:20.640
Whenever you're controlling, the kids are rebellious.
06:33:23.960
I was so rebellious because my parents were controlling.
06:33:29.040
Um, I think you ought to give your children some degree of freedom.
06:33:32.940
But for, like, for example, here would be a degree of control.
06:33:40.880
They're not going to have, uh, internet until they're like 18.
06:33:46.440
My kid is not going to have a fucking, my kid's not going to have a phone.
06:33:52.480
Yes, it's, social media is, is so fucking damaging to young people.
06:33:58.500
It's so harmful, especially at that young age when you're really impressionable and your
06:34:03.440
brain is a sponge and you don't have the, the intellectual capacity to be able to parse
06:34:11.640
You don't have like the critical thinking ability to see the fucking, the psychological impact
06:34:19.420
You're going to be exposed to shit you shouldn't be exposed to.
06:34:24.200
Look, I, I grew up with unfettered, uh, internet back, uh, this, this is like back before social
06:34:32.180
media and like, uh, you know, look, uh, I think my head on head on is pretty, my head's
06:34:39.420
But like, there's definitely shit I should not have.
06:34:42.680
And it wasn't like my, it's just, my parents didn't know that there was like fucking insane
06:34:47.080
I should definitely not have been exposed to like some of the shit I saw.
06:34:52.060
Luckily, I think I'm a decently intelligent person and, uh, it didn't fuck me up, but
06:34:58.480
you don't think that's going to make them want it more though?
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My kids are going to be so oblivious, homeschooled, homeschooled.
06:35:07.620
They're not going to be exposed to this fucking toxic shit.
06:35:14.820
Uh, people have been productive members of society prior to say like, I don't know, internet.
06:35:28.020
So before internet, people have been, uh, productive members of society.
06:35:38.840
I think internet and social media is very damaging to everybody, but you have to agree
06:35:44.720
that for your children, limiting them so much is going to get them to rebel, especially
06:35:52.060
like, yeah, you're going to homeschool them and maybe they'll have no idea.
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Oh, we'll have a strict, we'll have a strict, I'll have a strict program going for my kids,
06:36:03.120
but let me know how that works out for you in 18 years or whenever, you know, I'm curious.
06:36:07.800
Maybe I'm wrong, but what I see happening with cell phones and social media, uh, we have the,
06:36:15.260
the amount of mental illness that, uh, young women have and young men have, uh, they're being
06:36:21.060
exposed to ideas and things that are super harmful.
06:36:26.140
And ultimately, um, now that's not to say that I'm not, I'm obviously going to, uh, educate
06:36:33.320
my children and I'm, I'm going to, I'm not going to be like the world is, uh, sunflowers
06:36:40.020
Uh, you know, the, the world is, uh, daisies and rainbows and everything's okay.
06:36:44.820
I'm going to be like, no, like there's really bad things in the world out there.
06:36:49.220
Um, and I'm going to make sure that they're prepared for that.
06:36:52.820
I'm not going to like, okay, well, you're 18 now go like get completely, you're going
06:36:58.320
No, they're going to be aware of the risks and dangers that exist external to how I've raised
06:37:06.580
them, but I'm not going to expose them to, uh, what's on Tik TOK, what's on the internet.
06:37:15.800
And then perhaps I'll even sit down with them and be like, okay, you're 16, 17, 18.
06:37:23.300
And here's how they're trying to fuck your brain.
06:37:25.280
And here's how they're trying to make you dependent on X, Y, Z.
06:37:29.220
And here's how they're trying to get you, uh, to be good little slaves.
06:37:33.420
And here's how they're trying to fucking psyop you.
06:37:37.660
I'm going to tell them, this is what you have to look out for.
06:37:40.340
Here's how you can think critically about what the media is trying to tell you is happening.
06:37:46.740
I'm going to teach them how to think critically, how to be logical, how to be rational.
06:37:50.600
And then with that foundation and groundwork, they can be, then they can, uh, consume this
06:38:01.460
And then they can come to their own determinations through critical thinking.
06:38:04.820
What if they still turn out the way you don't want it?
06:38:08.640
It's a possibility, but I think I'm through doing this, uh, through doing this, I think,
06:38:16.380
uh, would you still love them like unconditionally?
06:38:20.540
Well, I would still love my, I would still love my children.
06:38:23.780
Everybody in the chats, like Brian, you're this, uh, this is some pipe dream or whatever.
06:38:33.780
And I think one of the important things to consider is, um, there's other allowances
06:38:40.140
So for instance, he and his brother would literally go out and into the woods and just fight with
06:38:45.940
sticks and blow stuff up and shoot guns and, you know, dirt bike and different things
06:38:51.080
And they had a lot, they were one empowered a lot and two had a lot of, um, like genuine,
06:38:59.380
Um, and he and his brother, I mean, I know that's once again, a one, one case, I'm sure
06:39:08.720
Um, but it is really cool and it is, he is so balanced because of it.
06:39:14.560
Um, it's the way that we've discussed wanting to raise like my kids.
06:39:18.660
I understand the, the harshness of the concept of disowning a child.
06:39:25.340
Um, I would say I could, I could empathize with a, it impacts the relationship that you
06:39:35.360
Um, I think that as a parent, it's very important to let a child know that if they decide that
06:39:42.660
they would like to have a relationship, you are there, but you can't support this current.
06:39:48.460
And I don't think that you should disappear from a child's life permanently.
06:39:52.060
I, I think that, um, sending reminders because there is, there is a certain, um, that is really
06:40:02.040
Just like if you were having a child that, um, you know, was doing another, and once again,
06:40:07.380
self-destructive, like self-destructive behavior, like drug use or whatever, it would get to a
06:40:11.480
point where you would have to cut that child off because if not, you are enabling that
06:40:15.440
And that might be not having an active relationship, but that child should always know that if
06:40:21.360
they want to come home and if they realize that they messed up, you will be there and
06:40:28.280
And that might include sending them reminders every so often, even if you guys don't talk
06:40:32.500
regularly, but just a message that says, Hey, I love you.
06:40:36.680
If you want to come home, uh, quick, John, thank you for the 25.
06:40:51.040
Only women think they deserve unconditional love.
06:40:58.140
Some people in the chat were like, Oh, that's really wishful thinking, Brian.
06:41:02.920
I mean, I think it's actually, people think it's going to be super complicated.
06:41:11.280
Look, I mean, people might say, Brian, that's really unrealistic in today's day and age.
06:41:16.000
I mean, as a parent, your job is to protect your children.
06:41:19.880
Um, that's not to say I'm going to completely entirely insulate them.
06:41:24.420
Um, well, you forget that they also have like their own voice and own opinions and yeah,
06:41:28.240
you cannot provide the phone and stuff or not provide whatever you want.
06:41:31.740
Your kid is not going to, they might give you crap for it.
06:41:35.000
Like, like my parents didn't let me have a Snapchat or something for very valid reasons,
06:41:39.260
but I sat there and I argued with them about it for hours about everything.
06:41:50.200
Now, look, I understand children can be very skilled in persuasion and manipulation.
06:41:56.540
Kids are intelligent in the sense that, oh yeah, they'll fucking manipulate you.
06:42:03.540
Even fucking babies and young kids will manipulate their parents.
06:42:07.280
But look, I think it's about just having a steadfast position on what you or how you're
06:42:16.760
Some people are saying, Brian, that's fucking insane.
06:42:33.180
Um, I, I think, especially if I have a girl, I mean, even, uh, it's going to be the same
06:42:37.920
for a boy, but I think social media has a more pronounced negative impact on women, especially
06:42:43.780
when it, women, especially when they're teenagers, um, you know, junior high school, man, that's
06:42:49.900
like a really insecure period, maybe even younger, even in elementary school.
06:42:53.660
And it's like, okay, you're going to see all these fucking Tik TOK chicks doing stupid
06:42:59.680
I'm not exposing my daughter to that fucking degeneracy.
06:43:03.640
No Tik TOK, no Snapchat, no internet, no cell phone.
06:43:12.380
So we, you know, if we let you out and about, you can reach us, but no, you're not going to
06:43:17.440
have internet access like that if you're my kid.
06:43:22.180
If they're not even aware, Oh my God, I'm missing out.
06:43:28.720
Actually, when I was a police cadet, um, we had a like, yeah, I was a police cadet.
06:43:33.980
We had a lecture about how, um, there was this officer who was telling us how basically the
06:43:40.200
And because he saw a lot of like child abuse, child, like the nasty child stuff.
06:43:45.620
He also did the same exact things with his daughter.
06:43:55.540
Not like that, but he also didn't let her have a phone.
06:44:04.840
Coming from somebody where I was raised and I had a flip phone until the age of 16.
06:44:11.240
I wish I did not have any kind of social media access because on some real shit, I probably
06:44:17.980
And if you guys are like, honestly thinking that you should be proud of what we're doing
06:44:21.440
longterm, that's not something that we should honestly be proud of as women.
06:44:25.360
And I'm, I'm honestly just so sick and tired of hearing you guys make excuses because like
06:44:30.060
as somebody who's in this industry and who's been in it for as long as I have been, there
06:44:34.960
have been times that I have quit, but yeah, the money is good.
06:44:39.160
So yeah, I'm going to go and I'm going to fucking work my ass off when I can retire.
06:44:45.600
But I'm not going to sit here and sugarcoat it and think, oh, well, my parents should
06:44:54.680
And then if you want to go do whatever the fuck you want, they have the complete option
06:44:58.880
to disown you as you guys want to call it or set boundaries where they can love you
06:45:10.760
And if you guys think that just, you know, oh, I can go do whatever I want.
06:45:17.240
Under your parents' house and their, no, it's their house, their rules.
06:45:21.180
If they're paying for your shit, abide by their rules.
06:45:26.540
Can we get a celebratory noise or something for the four years sober?
06:45:33.820
Like, cause I'm not, I mean, yeah, I'm proud to be where I'm at because I, I mean, I do
06:45:40.820
That's also why I don't, you know, try to go and hurt other people because my lifestyle
06:45:47.060
It's also not going to be something that's productive in a relationship.
06:45:50.060
So why would I go try to do that when I'm still trying to figure out myself?
06:45:54.600
And I, you know, I think that, uh, I don't know.
06:46:04.480
Do we think that society has been going in a good direction?
06:46:11.640
I think there's a lot of, uh, social instability.
06:46:17.800
Um, so I think that, uh, and I don't know, like, look, I understand this idea that if
06:46:24.160
you're really strict with your kid, they're going to rebel maybe, or maybe you raised a
06:46:29.160
really disciplined kid who's a productive member of society.
06:46:38.060
I don't have all the answers, but from what I see happening in society, I would like to,
06:46:44.620
I want to be proactive in my child's life to the point where I want to, I see the way
06:46:54.940
I see the way a lot of people are moving on an individual level.
06:46:58.240
Um, I would want to take as much of a proactive step as possible to try to do the best thing
06:47:06.540
from my perspective for my children and raise them in a way where they're virtuous people,
06:47:12.260
where they have integrity, where they're not going to fuck their life up.
06:47:18.300
Of course, even if you, like I said, you do the perfect thing, you're still, your kids
06:47:25.260
But, um, I do think you can take steps to mitigate.
06:47:31.060
I don't have kids, but I, I think there's, you can only try and control as much as you
06:47:37.200
possibly can and I think discipline and raising your kids to realize that there are going to
06:47:47.660
be consequences for your actions is very important and there's that balance.
06:47:54.520
You can only try and control as much as you can and then you just got to let your kid be
06:48:19.880
Brooklyn, you said men should pay for dinner when asking a girl out on a date.
06:48:28.120
I think I just was thinking of that question for myself because if a guy asked me out on
06:48:32.960
a date and he doesn't want to pay, then I don't think I'd want to go on the date.
06:48:36.240
Just, I would want, you know, him to put the effort in and like, I don't know.
06:48:41.840
I just, it's kind of like the, there's like a quote, something about like a guy doesn't
06:48:45.040
have to buy me flowers, but the guy who does buy me flowers, I'll probably pick him.
06:48:54.360
Like, I don't, I don't need a guy to do X, but I won't date one who, wait, I won't date
06:49:03.880
one who won't some, I don't know, something like that.
06:49:09.020
Uh, I mean, we already kind of talked about this, but my position is, um, if you're not
06:49:18.360
I think, I don't know, just pay for your chicken nuggets, I guess.
06:49:26.160
I always put my card out and I'm like, you got yours.
06:49:33.940
Well, you probably can have, like you live in Florida or if I go out, are you in Miami?
06:49:41.940
I'm sure the guys in Florida, like you're, you're an attractive gal.
06:49:45.020
I'm sure the guys, you can go on the dating app or go out and guys will approach you and
06:49:50.400
want to take you out on dates and they'll pay for it.
06:49:56.660
Like, I'm sure guys are paying for your shit, blah, blah, blah, whatever, especially in Florida.
06:50:01.320
I don't know if you're in Miami exactly, but, um, it's not that I wouldn't go out with the
06:50:06.820
It's just maybe I wouldn't go on the second date with that guy.
06:50:09.880
I like guy pays for the first, I'll pay for the second.
06:50:16.160
Like it's also just kind of being kind, you know, but usually I will pay for the, he buys
06:50:23.500
Or like he pays all tip and then I'll tip the girl.
06:50:35.560
Like, wouldn't it look good for the woman to do it?
06:50:37.960
Um, yeah, but usually I talk to older guys, so I feel like they have more money in general
06:50:56.240
Like what, you just go over to their house and smash?
06:51:02.780
Because you said older, you go out with the older guy.
06:51:07.700
I thought you were talking like 40s or some shit.
06:51:24.080
Yeah, but don't you probably out-earn these dudes?
06:51:31.540
Like back in college, I thought it was so cool when a guy took me on, like out to eat
06:51:35.980
I feel like that's another thing too with like OnlyFans specifically.
06:51:40.160
Like I've dated guys, dated single dates, where it was almost expected that I would pay because
06:51:55.260
So it's almost just like to protect myself financially as well.
06:52:01.780
Like I do think it's nice when a guy buys on the first date and I'll get the second or
06:52:20.260
Also, you mentioned earlier or a couple times throughout the podcast that your views do
06:52:25.760
try on relationships do tend to want to steer more towards traditional.
06:52:30.700
Doesn't a man paying for the first date kind of lay in that realm of being traditional in
06:52:37.240
Yeah, so I mean, if, if I'm, uh, cause I agree that a man should pay on the first date.
06:52:44.020
So I mean, if, uh, if I'm on a date with a girl, uh, then yeah, I'm going to take care
06:52:49.560
of the whole thing, but I'm, I'm looking at it more so from at, in the position of being
06:52:55.160
a sex worker and we already kind of dived into this.
06:52:58.020
It's like, okay, well, I feel like the tradition stuff goes out the window.
06:53:02.280
Chivalry goes out the window or should anyways, if you're a sex worker.
06:53:14.680
Because if he's trying to date me, he's got to be a gentleman.
06:53:17.120
Well, yeah, but then that gets into meta most effective tactics available.
06:53:21.340
So yes, even if the woman is the most, uh, degenerate woman ever, the most progressive,
06:53:30.240
The most effective thing, if you're trying to get the girl and you're inclined to date
06:53:36.400
But I'm looking at it from not necessarily like, obviously, yes, that, that would be
06:53:44.780
That's, but I'm looking at it from again, bird's eye view.
06:54:01.760
Uh, if men should pay for dates, what should women do?
06:54:05.300
If men should be chivalrous, what should women do?
06:54:16.820
You're not, you cannot definitely be a lady if you're a sex worker.
06:54:20.580
So I guess beyond being a sex worker, if we can say women, or excuse me, if we can say
06:54:26.400
men should do these things, what can we say women should do?
06:54:35.100
But I'm, I'm looking for something that is, uh, unique to women.
06:54:39.060
So for example, uh, when you say men should pay for first dates, men should be chivalrous.
06:54:49.660
I'm asking you, what do women do from women to men that men don't do for women?
06:54:54.640
So I think in a relationship, you should love each other.
06:55:01.960
All of these things should be, um, reciprocated, but women don't.
06:55:07.400
Like for example, women say, well, men should pay for first dates, but women don't reciprocate
06:55:10.800
that generally, like a woman can go through an entire relationship, never pay for dinner
06:55:21.540
It could be 90% the time the guy pays, or it could be the guy's always paying.
06:55:28.280
You've probably dated guys where he took care of everything.
06:55:30.740
But so again, the question is, and I'm getting crickets here.
06:55:55.740
So my preference is I'd like a guy to pay for the first date.
06:55:58.400
Your preference is not to date an OnlyFans girl.
06:56:04.060
No, no, but I'm asking though, if that puts women in this sort of almost privileged position.
06:56:10.760
So if men should do this thing that benefits women and privileges women, what do women do?
06:56:38.860
The pure benefit as a man that I get from dating a woman is I get to date you.
06:56:49.440
Well, look, even if it is the case that maybe women, the value that they could or should
06:56:56.200
or do bring is perhaps a bit offset chronologically.
06:57:07.340
Because yeah, offset, it could be laundry, cooking for you, planning dates.
06:57:20.820
You could be dating a chick for three months and she won't cook for you.
06:57:24.020
But you're assuming you're dating the wrong girl and then she starts cooking for you.
06:57:38.300
Buying the first date and buying her flowers and showing that you're a gentleman is an investment
06:57:43.180
into the rest of the relationship where then she will act like a woman.
06:57:54.060
Like, if a guy, if a guy like wants to give me all his money, I'll cook for him.
06:58:02.540
And let's say, hypothetically, roles were swapped and women typically paid for the first
06:58:12.400
Hypothetically, what would a man have to offer?
06:58:15.260
So, hypothetically, what if men had vaginas and women had dicks?
06:58:27.120
On a first date, what would a man have to offer right away, right off the table?
06:58:36.060
The leadership of not paying for the first date.
06:58:37.580
But what if the woman planned the date and got at you first?
06:58:43.760
So, you do realize that absent paying for the date, everything I just described still
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All the steps of initiative almost always fall on the man.
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Say we make the first move, because that does happen to a lot of people.
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I remember some people over here saying they like to go up first.
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If the woman makes the first move, well, I'll give you an example.
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So, on this dating app, Bumble, they've changed it, but women used to have to make the first move.
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Even when you forced women to have to make the first move, women were fucking terrible at it.
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The woman takes initiative and makes the first move.
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The woman literally says, hi, or hey, and then immediately shoves the conversational burden right back onto the man.
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It's like, okay, the woman slides into the DMs, or the woman will approach the guy, and then, look, some girls might have riz.
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A lot of women, you're immediately going to shove the conversational burden onto the guy, and then all other steps of initiative still shoved onto the guy.
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He's going to, like, you're not going to tolerate, oh, let me get your number.
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I'm going to set up the date, even girls, and I have experience of girls taking initiative.
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They'll do the initial kind of thing, but they're not going to be like, okay, let's meet.
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Like, planning that shit, they're going to just be like, and I'm fine with that.
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I prefer, well, I don't know if I prefer that, but I accept it as a role.
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I'm going to carry the conversation, basically.
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Yeah, but when I do it, it's weird and strange to men when I do it because I take initiative
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and I want to go on a date and I want to go do this.
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And they're like, oh, and they take a step back because they think it's strange that I'm
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trying to take initiative when they're supposed to.
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And I want them and I want to go on a date and I have it planned out.
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And then it's like they just ghost you because they're like, oh, this bitch is weird.
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It depends on the kind of man you're going after.
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Or I do think I think women can make the first move.
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But when you start leading it from there, like you can be feminine in a way of approaching
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a man, whether it's you do it online or in person.
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So in person, I think you can approach a man in a feminine way.
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But then if you start, I mean, it's tough because then some girls encounter the guy
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who's like, the girl's like, I don't know if you're asking what the plan is, but the
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guy's like, oh, I don't know, whatever you want.
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And then you give them a time and a date and they're like.
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Like I am going to be the one who's going to be like, okay, you did, you did the beginning
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If it's a girl locally, I'll be like, all right, let's meet 7 p.m.
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I think, look, the girl is doing, the girl is, if the girl's taking the initiative, my
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perspective is the girl should do like a first little bit of initiative.
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Yeah, but I always feel like the first one always gets canceled and they reschedule on
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And then they tried to schedule it on the second time because they didn't feel comfortable
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Like, I have, you know, the split custody, whatever.
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So I only have, you know, Thursday, Fridays to go and do something.
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So I'm like, hey, I'll be free Thursday at 7 o'clock.
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I'm like, well, you just canceled me the first time.
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I wonder if it has to like do maybe with like a feeling of control.
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And it seems, and they have interest because they, you know, reached out as well.
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So, well, that's, I mean, if the guy's agreed for you to like, he's, the understanding is
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that you're flying out and then he's like flaking on you, then that's fucked up.
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But I think the way you worded it, and I'm not sure if that's exactly how you do it, that
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So it's not like, and I think the framing was you were saying I'm free this time.
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You're not saying, or it sounded like, well, initially you're like, let's go here at
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If you want to get dinner with me on Thursday or Friday.
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And then it's like, because then you're just saying I'm available.
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But I think if you're like, maybe you create the space for the man to be like, okay,
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And then it's like still the strangest thing that they're like, I'm like, okay, well, all
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I mean, it could just be that I, either they're just not.
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Oh, because then people are like, well, let's hang out Monday.
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Kids submit to the father like a wife should or they are out of the house.
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Just because you managed to nag your weak fathers doesn't mean that it works this way.
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Sorry, Thomas, you have a very conditional way of loving your wife and children.
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I think kids are getting away with way too fucking much.
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I was watching people get beheaded at like 14 on an iPhone.
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I mean, gore.com was just openly available for the world.
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I saw some fucking crazy shit as a fucking kid.
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Like back when you couldn't really stop pop-ups, I guess.
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And I'll, you know, you'd be browsing on the internet and you'd click a link and I'd
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be on some Dragon Ball Z fan site, like looking up like the power levels of the fucking
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And then you click on some fucking random link or some ad or some bullshit.
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There was a pop-up of a dude gaping his bunghole.
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No, it was just like he was gaping his fucking video.
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See, everyone had access to that fucking video.
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And it was like a pop-up that would just like keep fucking.
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Uh, so I started it, but then I, as soon as I was like, oh, and then I, I, I did not
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I just had a friend send me a link and be like, you should watch this.
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I tend to notice when you ask women, what should men bring to the table?
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They answer so quick and name off so many things.
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But when you ask women what they bring to the table, it's offensive and you want us to
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We just want you to pay for the damn first date.
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It's like, if you reach for your wallet, it's like, oh, he cares enough to pay.
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Look, I mean, on the traditional thing, whoever I'm with long term, I'm going to take care
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of everything, but I mean, it is an interesting conversation to have.
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I think I had one more thing on the paying for the first date thing.
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If men should pay for first dates, should women be virgins?
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There's so many guys, like, you can't all have a virgin.
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I think, obviously, it would be ideal if both men and women were virgins until marriage,
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just because I think that it'll ultimately benefit both parties.
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I will say, at least for me personally, I expect a man to be a strong leader, and in
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return, I'm a willing follower, and that's for the right man that I trust and that I can
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trust to lead, and he shows that, and I show a willingness as well.
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So, yeah, like I said, I give up my career in a heartbeat to support my mans, all that
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Going around the table, who here, maybe I should wait until she's back.
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Let me finish up some of the pre-show notes here.
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C1, you let him hit it raw, didn't have second thoughts.
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You said I'ma have this kid, don't care if he's here or not.
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Sometimes I would meet guys at bars, and we just, like, I'd talk to them there,
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and usually just ask to go back to their place.
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Um, but with dating, I haven't really dated in forever, so, like, I haven't really asked
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to date, but I asked to, like, hang out, and I'll make the first move there.
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Like, I'll literally go up to you at the bar and be like, hey, I think you're super cute.
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Okay, this, I guess, uh, maybe final point here.
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When, my argument about, uh, you should be chivalrous to women who are ladies.
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Uh, so your OnlyFans, it lists, like, all the stuff that you do.
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Sex tapes, facials, cream pies, fuck machine, riding, anal, cowgirl, doggy style, missionary,
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I don't know, maybe I'm a toxic masculinity or whatever.
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I feel like if a woman has videos of her getting cream-pied by another man, maybe you could
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just give them a pass on having to pay for the first date.
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Like, maybe, maybe it's like, look, you know, I have revoked my ability.
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I revoke, I've forsaken the men should pay thing.
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That is why I always pay for my own first meals, my dates, because I know, like, it's
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It's going to be way, like, if I want kids in the future, I probably don't, because I
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So it's like, I revoked that privilege 100%, but I got money to pay for it.
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Well, yeah, I'm not saying you're getting pregnant.
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You just fuck, like, white guys and Latino guys?
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I'm just saying, you know, we're talking about chivalry.
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If on the date, if on the date, I can hop on your OnlyFans and find a video of another
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man blasting inside of you and, like, the cum leaking out.
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I feel like you got to give the guy a pass, Brooklyn.
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This was before I did OnlyFans and my nudes were already leaked everywhere.
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He had already seen my nudes because he Googled my name.
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But, okay, to be clear, revenge porn, not okay.
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But I feel like if there's videos of you on the internet of a guy depositing semen into
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your vagina and it's, like, dripping out and shit.
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You just got to get rid of the men should pay for first dates.
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I don't see my value as less because of what I do.
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When we're talking about value, so humans, regardless of, you know, what they do, you have inherent
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However, when it comes to, I guess, fairness from the external perspective, I'm sure guys
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I'm sure you could get fucking Bukkake'd and you could find a guy 30 minutes after the
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Bukkake to like take you on a date and kiss you all over the face.
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There are men who will pay for you, you know, pay for you.
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Look, my personal rule, if there was a Bukkake within 24 hours, probably shouldn't pay for
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Look, I'm just, I understand that there are still men, you could have three other men's
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It could be in your fucking, your digestive tract.
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That's why you, Brooklyn, that's why you got so many stomach issues.
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I mean, I feel like some women, anyways, um, you as you sex workers, you could have
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There's some guy, there's fucking guys out there.
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I mean, maybe you won't reveal that to them, but like there's guys who are going to take
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Are you saying that because of those things, like we can find those guys, but the quality
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Some guys are into some fucking weird shit, but what I'm saying is I'm just having a convo.
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I'm saying if there's another man's cum in your pussy, man should not pay for your dinner.
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Some guys are cucks though, and they might like it.
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You might get turned on by the fact that people look at you and want to see you have sex and
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Let's say you just did a scene with some dude and he done blasted all over you in every possible
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way, and then I get the lifeline call from the guy you're going on a date with, and he's
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like, yo, Brian, I'm taking Brooklyn out to fucking Chili's.
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I'm taking Brooklyn, batty Brooklyn, to a fucking dinner.
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And I'd be like, listen up, you fucking dipshit.
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Look, I get you're into, you know, I get you want fucking another man to come all over
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But if you're going to go on the date, you shouldn't pay for the date.
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Brooklyn, have you ever gone on a date with a man and had another man come inside of
07:19:10.520
I knew a girl who didn't do OnlyFans who did that.
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Brooklyn, be so honest, even in college when you was fucking dudes, you were fucking frat
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boys, you were fucking all of these guys, you were fucking, who the fuck were you fucking
07:19:24.520
You ran through the track team, the fucking javelin thrower, the fucking hurdlers, you
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Let me tell you, you, you wanted your face to be there when they were fucking hurdling
07:19:39.060
But I'm telling you, Brooklyn, you cannot expect, what the fuck, you can't expect a guy.
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Look, I'm just saying, you know, maybe I'm old fashioned.
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If you're a woman and another man's cum is inside of you, you got to let the guy, the
07:20:04.800
My question for you is, um, cause you mentioned, you know, a man might be into that.
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Because it seems like it would just be another person kind of objectifying you.
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And I don't know if you would want to, for lack of a better term, bring your work home
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Um, I want a guy who's like kinky, you know, into things that I like too.
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You want to be fucking slapped around a little bit?
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Hey, uh, Brooklyn, you're back in the nineties here.
07:20:52.540
Well, she likes to get slapped around a little bit.
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Like group things or cuck, like maybe watching.
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So that's basically like you're laying on the bed.
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I place another girl on top of you and you feel every thrust for the other woman.
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Look, I'm just saying, Brooklyn, look, as your Italian older brother, I think we can get you back on the right track.
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You've probably already made a good amount of money.
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You're going to put it in, you're going to put it in Doge.
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I'm in extracting all of you from sex work tonight.
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She doesn't count the last one because it was small.
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And I put my hand around it and it literally, like.
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If it's four or five inches, I have no problem with taking that.
07:23:47.140
Wait, so last time you had sex, seven, nine months?
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When was the, I guess you said the smaller man?
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I did a really cool blowjob video two weeks ago with a bib.
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A job so important that the whole world relies on it.
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All right, so what do you women bring to the table then?
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Funny how a rich man will change a poor woman's life, but a rich woman won't even look a poor man's ways.
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Did anybody see that Nick Fuentes joke about how he kind of wants to marry an OF girl?
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See how it's usually the ones you hate the most who are curious?
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But he was, like, I forgot exactly the framing.
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But, Brooklyn, finishing up your fucking things here.
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You said men shouldn't expect anything in return if they planned the date and paid for the dinner.
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Men also shouldn't expect anything in return if they planned a date and paid for the dinner.
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Like, I mean, like, I don't want them to just assume they're going to have sex because they paid.
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Because I think, I mean, they probably will get it.
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But it's, like, I don't want them to assume that.
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I think that's weird if a guy's, like, well, I paid for dinner.
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Just because you take a girl out for a date, dinner, whatever, it doesn't mean you're entitled to anything.
07:26:49.920
You said you think the idea of having kids with a man is terrifying.
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The sacrifice women make compared to men is outstanding?
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So, my fear with having kids with a guy is I get pregnant, I gain weight.
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And now I have no, or if I was a traditional wife, I had no career.
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And you'll never understand that, ever, until you have one.
07:27:27.200
Yeah, I saw on your Instagram you used to do track.
07:27:39.520
But just in general, like, you gain, or you can have thyroid problems after.
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I've got to get up for a bit, but I'll let the girls engage on that.
07:27:49.000
I gain, like, postpartum psychosis scares me really bad.
07:27:56.480
From your initial note, it seemed, are you more concerned about the overall health risks
07:28:01.440
with pregnancy, or are you more concerned about how those health risks might impact your
07:28:07.180
relationship and kind of ending up alone with a child?
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And then also not having a career, so, like, being a traditional wife, like, you stay
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at home the whole time, and then it's like, okay, I go to get a job after that, after
07:28:18.860
my husband leaves, but then they're like, oh, you have this big gap in your resume.
07:28:27.620
I will say that if you are having a child with a man who may leave you if you gain weight,
07:28:42.520
I mean, there's the odds and the ends, but if you have those in-depth conversations,
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engage things along the way, it can happen, but it's significantly reduced risk.
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I feel like you hear about it with celebrities, too.
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Like, they'll, this isn't with pregnancy, but they'll get famous, I guess, and then they
07:29:08.820
And, like, that could happen while you're pregnant as well.
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Oh, this pretty younger girl wants to hang out.
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Those are real, real fears and, you know, human things to think about.
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But you also have to, like, weigh is letting this fear controlling my life and my decisions
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worth the benefits and the beautiful, like, gifts that would come, you know?
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Are you allowing the fear to control your life?
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And you never know what you'd be missing out on.
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I just have family that have struggled with that after they've had kids.
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So it just puts kind of a scary taste when everyone in my family has had that problem.
07:29:58.760
I will say one thing to keep in mind as well, because you shared earlier that you do have
07:30:07.960
That is, you know, a benefit that should help reduce that fear a little bit.
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And, yeah, I would say just don't throw caution to the wind.
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But, you know, don't balance that fear with the risk.
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Make sure that you are picking someone that's a high-quality person.
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Once again, someone that doesn't just view you as an object and doesn't just view you
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from what they can get from you or how they can, what benefit you provide,
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And I think that that really can be super difficult to discern, especially if you've been objectified
07:31:02.260
It's hard to discern that from genuine, true love.
07:31:12.160
But it will be difficult with your current lifestyle.
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And you will be more likely to encounter and to proceed with men that are probably not on the up and up.
07:31:29.080
And be very, very precise on where you're getting these men from.
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The lifestyle that you're living right now, you are not.
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I understand where that fear is coming from with the lifestyle that you're engaging with right now.
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So maybe if you change that, what you're in right now, you may have a lot better of men to pick from.
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I don't think it's necessarily just my job because my family doesn't do my job, but my siblings have had that problem.
07:31:58.160
We've got seven women here and the table is this dirty.
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But I don't need to know what you guys are talking about, to be honest.
07:32:38.240
Raquel, that was the girl who couldn't come because, you know, guys, the shit before the
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I overbooked, so it actually worked out perfectly.
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Sometimes girls lie about, oh, I can't come, blah, blah, blah.
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So, her sister had an allergic reaction to peanut butter.
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I don't know who that is, but Jessica, thank you for the raid.
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I feel like you haven't let on, like, all the stuff.
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You should be enumerating all the crazy shit you've done to dudes.
07:34:29.780
I mean, she did spit on me in our first interaction.
07:34:44.800
Okay, that one was the same guy, but that was, um, I actually don't remember much of that.
07:34:59.340
I like, like, I'll take care of them if they, you know, in a very nice way.
07:35:26.220
But what was the story with the threatened to date with a knife?
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But I'm blinking out right now for some reason.
07:36:01.720
Well, you know, you already think of me as a sadist, so why don't I talk about the nice
07:36:17.960
I caught him with his co-worker, and he worked at a dispensary, and he was smoking in the
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car with another girl, and I went to go bring him lunch.
07:36:28.440
He got home, um, I had a knife to him waiting for him, and...
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Was it a butcher cleaver, a cleaver, butcher's cleaver?
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You go, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, you know?
07:37:20.840
I'm like super grateful for the metal detector situation.
07:38:14.640
And he kept on looking back to my roommates, and my roommates were just like, not...
07:38:28.780
It's like the product of, you know, like reactive abuse.
07:38:43.980
I kind of wanted to know how everybody approaches men, so...
07:38:47.240
But I kind of already asked that while you were gone.
07:39:00.720
You said, like, how men say bad fathers make girls that do OF.
07:39:08.480
Then we have a few questionnaire things, a few other questions, but...
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I don't want her to fuck up somebody else's eye.
07:39:41.280
She's only got one eye to spare, so we can't, like, be trying to fuck up her other eye.
07:39:53.880
You're just a girl too sleuty for her own good.
07:39:57.540
I don't know where I saw that, but it was either in your notes or in your Twitter or something.
07:40:07.880
Oh, slew is a word I started using instead of slut.
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I like to watch them, but I think I'm too nervous to participate instead.
07:41:01.280
You've never done a threesome with a guy involved?
07:41:10.980
So, are you bisexual, or is it just for content?
07:41:20.400
Like, I like to have the intercourse with women.
07:41:45.240
When I say labia, I'm typically talking about the inner labia.
07:42:12.680
Wouldn't leave you alone until you started stripping and told him you were stripping.
07:42:18.680
You said online dating will be the ruin of modern relationships.
07:42:22.580
You never date a guy that regularly posts on Instagram.
07:42:27.480
And then you said men going to the gym is gay behavior.
07:42:53.200
Going to the gym and gym influencers are two completely different.
07:43:00.720
You can't just categorize every guy that goes to the gym as a gym fluencer.
07:43:06.460
No, she's just saying men going to the gym is gay.
07:43:14.060
I believe a person with a healthy lifestyle shouldn't have to go to the gym to maintain a healthy body.
07:43:23.060
I mean, I'm sure we could agree that you can have a good physique and be healthy and be fit and be strong without going to the gym.
07:43:44.740
What are those guys who do, like, the body weight stuff?
07:44:01.800
I think the culture around, like, men with the gym, it's very gay in nature.
07:44:06.460
Not that there's anything wrong with being gay, obviously.
07:44:09.840
I mean, it seems like you're a little homophobic there.
07:44:32.920
I want you to go to fucking Columbus and Cleveland and be fucking miserable.
07:44:38.880
I think Canton's the best place to be miserable.
07:44:41.960
I'm going to send her to fucking Newark, New Jersey.
07:44:58.220
So you can be fucking miserable with the blight and the fucked up, abandoned brick buildings.
07:45:09.660
And you're going to become a fucking fentanyl-leaning...
07:45:16.100
Yeah, you're going to be fentfolding in Gary, Indiana.
07:45:21.760
Sending women to dilapidated, previously nice cities.
07:46:12.620
We have a couple things from Questionnaire, a couple final questions.
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So, here, really quick, let's just blast this out of the way.
07:46:38.660
So, I definitely don't know the exact number, but it's definitely in triple digits, for sure.
07:47:44.000
You, we need the answer, yo, for math and science.
07:47:47.720
Dude, her boyfriend's going to hate on the screen, though.
07:48:01.960
Okay, that, why would, why would you not share that?
07:48:05.400
That's not, I don't, I don't think anyone would judge that.
07:48:10.640
I have a list, but I didn't count it before I came.
07:48:16.340
You know, that's crazy because like, we can get you your phone right now.
07:48:40.520
Or if they, or if something was cool about them.
07:48:47.120
Or maybe, maybe you could do like, the first letter of the name.
07:48:54.420
How about, Mary, do you want to grab the phone for her?
07:49:00.100
And it's, you said just from college, it's not like counting anything beyond?
07:49:32.660
This one time I was in Oklahoma, I done seen a girl with a split tongue and I told you,
07:49:40.760
I tell you what, I bent her over back in the summer in the boonies.
07:49:44.800
I was drinking moonshine and I was drinking the moonshine.
07:49:53.160
I wish I could do a Vietnamese accent because it's so good.
07:50:23.500
I'm just waiting until, actually, no, I guess we can.
07:51:34.240
What language should the people in Idaho speak?
07:52:24.160
I mean, if you want to fucking raw dog the name, you can.
07:53:13.420
And T was a football player from a different school.
07:53:52.140
It's a single digit and that's as specific as I'll be.
07:54:21.540
Would you receive head from a girl with a split tongue?
07:54:45.380
I feel like the type of women who get their tongue split.
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Like, this isn't doing it for the split tongue girl.
07:55:18.160
But, honestly, yeah, I just, I don't know if it'll ever happen.
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Maybe I'll find a wholesome split tongue chick who's just like, you know what?
07:55:43.160
What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband, starting with you?
07:56:06.960
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
07:56:25.380
Is it less if you're having, like, a thyroid issue at the time?
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I eat a lot, so I'm used to, like, pay for a lot of food.
07:56:56.920
I don't think how much you make determines, like, work ethic.
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She's going to be, she's going to hold it down.
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You better be building a damn house if you don't do it.
07:57:18.580
No, it's contributing in a way that's not financially.
07:57:30.140
My ex and my dad a little bit, but we're good now.
07:57:41.000
I also said zero because I want him to quit and work with me.
07:57:46.400
You want the guy to quit his job so he can, you write, what, hold your phone?
07:57:54.920
Uh, I put a hundred K, uh, because I hope for more of the traditional.
07:58:09.080
Uh, well, the only one I really have some conflict with is our good friend, the felonious Filipina.
07:58:21.600
Well, maybe if I spend a lot, he'll be like more motivated.
07:58:33.960
How tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
07:58:39.300
I am 5'4", and I think the lowest I'd go would be like 5'7", 5'8".
07:58:44.820
I need my genes to be nice and strong and I'm football players.
07:58:49.500
I'm 5'1", and the minimum would be probably 5'6".
07:58:55.680
So, I'm 6'0", um, the lowest I've gone is 5'6".
07:58:59.680
I'd say now I'm probably lowest I'd go is 6'0".
07:59:11.580
You put 10 here, motherfucker, for rating your own looks?
07:59:15.660
That's because the scale on the paper says 1 to 10.
07:59:25.400
So, when you say 1 to 10, that's like a percentage, 10%, 20%, 30%, and I do believe I'm in the top
07:59:33.600
But if you do 0 to 10, then 10 is ultimately perfect, so the scale changes.
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So, okay, 1 to 10 means the average is technically 5.5.
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But a 10 would still be, maybe I'm, am I wrong on this?
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I think she's discussing normal distribution versus distribution on a bell curve.
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However, anytime we're talking 1 to 10 scale or 0 to 10 scale, usually anytime we're talking
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a scale like this, we're talking a bell curve distribution where the majority of people
08:01:09.640
I prefer 6 feet, but if he's not, I don't care.
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I think that for me personally, I like if a man is shorter,
08:01:29.500
I like him to have a bigger frame just because, I don't know,
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I heard a lot of 6 feet, and I'm going to be honest, you guys,
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I think it's a little messed up to not date someone just because of their height.
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Did anyone say that they wouldn't date anyone because of their height?
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No, I meant at below 6 foot, except for the 6 foot person.
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I think that was the only person that said that.
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I need some damn basketball players on my roster.
08:02:01.880
Why do you feel like a guy has to be taller than you?
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I mean, either way, my kids are going to be tall.
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I'm not giving no 5 foot 3 dude a fucking chance.
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So you're purely not going to date someone just based on their height?
08:02:36.840
Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
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The women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
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But I also don't care about being sexist to men.
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So when I say women can't be sexist towards men, it's...
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So you want to be sexist towards men, is what you're saying?
08:03:38.200
No, but the idea here is some people say, for example, like, black people can't be...
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Like, they can't be racist towards white people.
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Like, even if I say something about a man, it's not wrong to me.
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But what's something that's sexist against men?
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Men are trash and men suck and they deserve to bow and be on their knees.
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I don't necessarily, like, agree, but, like, if a man is asking you to do that and paying
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But at the same time, it's like, I wouldn't, like...
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I've kind of stepped out of that side of it, so...
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If you could snap your fingers and all men disappeared, would you do it?
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So let's say women could reproduce without men.
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I would like, like, the men, like, I don't want to do, like, the building and the figuring
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Wouldn't you want to, like, get rid of all men?
08:06:43.640
So, we're going to do the rapid fire question segment here.
08:07:48.840
Do you want to name one of the countries in the Caribbean?
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Uh, scoot your mic closer to the edge of the table.
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I think we should maybe get Canada, Greenland, Annex, all these places.
08:12:09.020
Or you could say 1783 when the Peace Treaty was signed.
08:12:41.100
Who did the U.S., the United States, gain its...
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I thought that was like, I thought that was like, I thought that was like.
08:14:26.260
How many days of the week end with the letter Y?
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I just want to make sure you ask that question as stupid as it sounded to me.
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How many days of the week end with the letter Y?
08:16:40.120
X equals negative B plus or minus square root of B squared minus.
08:17:50.280
Well, do you remember who found out that the stars were made of helium and hydrogen?
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I said the sun, and then you looked at me like I'm retarded.
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You're making a second guess our answers over here.
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It makes me feel stupid, and I'm actually right.
08:18:38.540
You're putting us on the spot, and then when we get it right, you still look at us suspiciously.
08:18:51.580
If you are, oh, here, how many degrees is a full rotation of a circle?
08:19:14.320
It's the answer to these puzzling questions that not even mathematicians have figured out
08:19:23.460
How do you, do you know what year the war of 1812 started?
08:20:25.060
Because Brianna is the female version of Brian.
08:20:29.500
I've been called Brian so many times throughout my life.
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I feel like girls are a little shy with it sometimes.
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Do y'all be fucking guys who are silent when you fuck them?
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Because you're nasty may be different than mine's nasty.
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You got to be careful with those fellas because a girl, I feel like a girl could lie.
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I mean, people that are attracted to like armpits and stuff, like smelling someone.
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I know when the declaration was an independence assignment, not the damn period ship.
08:24:25.640
Where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?
08:24:46.880
Boston is where they were at Pearl Harbor and then we got revenge.
08:25:30.620
I thought you were about to say some other kind of demon that's semen.
08:25:37.040
Leviathan is a monster described in the Bible that will come about in the end times.
08:27:34.480
If yes is spelled Y-E-S, what does E-Y-E-S spell?
08:27:52.500
If yes is spelled Y-E-S, what does E-Y-E-S spell?
08:28:26.880
If you were born 10 years ago, how old would you be today?
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We're going to start with Brooklyn and go that way around.
08:30:37.060
You're killing me with these history questions.
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Can you name one allied power and one axis power from World War II?
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So like the two opposing sides in World War II.
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The definition of the term is kind of irrelevant.
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So if United States is Axis power, name one allied power.
08:32:43.280
I'm not sure about Vietnam's involvement in World War II.
08:32:46.240
They were probably doing some shit during that time.
08:32:49.160
I'm not really an expert really in the Pacific theater.
08:32:52.940
You know, I know a little bit about the Pacific theater.
08:32:55.000
Not an expert on the, you know, the smaller states.
08:32:58.000
The smaller countries in the Pacific during World War II.
08:33:02.080
You know, we can talk about, you know, what was going on, you know,
08:33:04.800
the Japanese incursions into China and Manchuria and all and so forth.
08:33:08.940
But Brooklyn, my dear, can you name me one allied power and one axis power
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Because there were many belligerents during World War II.
08:33:54.840
And then that, you want to give us another axis power?
08:34:55.000
Sometimes I look at my cameras to make sure they're still working.
08:35:08.720
Can you name three K-pop stars or bands or whatever?
08:35:21.080
Name three Kardashians and Jenner's counts, I guess.
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Kendall Jenner, Kylie Jenner, Kourtney Kardashian.
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We're done with the little those ones a little bit.
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Are you going to tell us who's right with the ally?
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You'll just have to Google that shit later, though.
08:36:25.020
We talked tonight a bit about some of my expectations for a woman to bow, for a woman to be submissive,
08:36:47.000
Were some of those okay, but some of them not okay?
08:36:51.640
I believe, again, that each gender in some way, shape, or form does hold a role, but I feel like that isn't a societal role that each gender has to follow, necessarily.
08:37:00.800
So, I feel like some points you made, as in, like, the cooking and the cleaning and the constant, like, not pampering, per se, but, like, you know, always being there to take care of you.
08:37:12.840
I feel like that's an expectation that men hold a lot for women.
08:37:16.460
And I just don't agree with that, because I feel like, wouldn't you want your woman to be independent and have her own career and make her own money so that you're not fully...
08:37:31.880
Not Brian, per se, but the average man, probably.
08:37:37.360
But what if something doesn't go well with work or something isn't going well financially?
08:37:42.060
You have a woman that does have also that amount of money.
08:37:45.300
I believe that a woman shouldn't rely fully on a man to pay for everything, to buy for everything, that it should, in some way, shape, or form, be an equal split in a relationship.
08:37:55.580
No, look, I actually think that's one of the more compelling arguments about a woman's career.
08:38:02.460
Sometimes people get sick, like really sick, they get into an accident, and they can't work anymore.
08:38:19.620
The woman, if she was working, she gets sick, okay, the man's got to take more of the responsibility.
08:38:25.580
The reverse happens, the woman's got to take on some responsibility.
08:38:27.940
I think that's actually one of the more compelling arguments as to a woman having a career.
08:38:54.460
Do you want to have kids pretty much mostly back-to-back?
08:39:05.520
So in that first two to three years with the first kid, are you going to be taking time off completely?
08:39:15.680
I would say within probably the first six months of having the baby, for sure.
08:39:20.760
And in six months, you're going to put your kid in childcare?
08:39:28.640
But if your husband's working and you go back to work at six months...
08:39:32.720
Well, if my husband is working, obviously, I would stay to take care of the child.
08:39:39.340
Because I'm not one to really necessarily trust a stranger with my kid.
08:39:44.280
But if I was in the position where I had to work, of course I would put my child in childcare and go and work and make money.
08:39:52.560
Even if my husband isn't making enough money, I would go and work.
08:39:55.660
But I mean, so if you have to work, then, well, you have to work, I guess.
08:40:00.040
Although sometimes what's interesting to me is depending on the woman's capacity for earning, it almost doesn't make sense sometimes because childcare can be really expensive.
08:40:11.360
Let's say the woman makes $40,000, $50,000 a year.
08:40:16.960
It depends what some places the cost of childcare can be less.
08:40:30.700
Okay, you're going to go work a $50,000 an hour job so you can make $2,000 and put your kids in childcare?
08:40:44.020
But without working, how would you be able to financially fund your child being in childcare in the first place?
08:40:49.200
Well, in this situation, it's like, okay, let's say the man's working too, right?
08:40:53.520
So in this situation, if the cost of childcare is as much as the woman or close to it, I would make an argument even.
08:41:05.420
She has to be making so much that it would arguably be worth it.
08:41:10.040
But let's say the excess of what she's making above the cost of childcare is $10,000, $20,000.
08:41:17.700
In that situation, I don't think you put your kids in childcare.
08:41:21.960
I think she stays home, and it's $10,000 less a year, but she's taking care of the kids.
08:41:29.260
But I think ultimately the kids are going to be best served by being fully taken care of by the mom and not being placed in childcare.
08:41:40.840
They're not changing the diapers as frequently as they should.
08:41:49.740
I think the problem lies, though, like after the child hits the age where they would then attend public school, then whatever parent stays home to watch the child then loses those five years of work history.
08:42:13.720
Then there's that gap in the work history for either parent.
08:42:17.560
Look, I guess when the kids do go to public school, that does free up the schedule, you know, a little bit.
08:42:24.120
She might have a hard time getting a job because she took five years off.
08:42:36.320
Well, you know, you'll have a couple daughters in the mix.
08:42:44.340
Do you think then women's expectations of the men are sexist?
08:42:49.020
I think it's like women want men to pay for dates.
08:42:55.660
But wait, if it's not sexist for a woman to be like, hey, men should pay for dates.
08:43:01.440
Why, if it's okay for women to say men should, why can't men say women should?
08:43:11.340
But it seems like in society, it's if a man says women should, that's going to be labeled with sexist, misogyny, blah, blah, blah.
08:43:19.820
But there's never this criticism when women say men should.
08:43:30.260
And what I kind of think the problem is, is more necessarily women looking as men as having to be a provider and having to be this and having to be that.
08:43:38.660
But women are capable of doing exactly and equally what men do.
08:43:43.880
Well, I'm not going to nitpick on that, but I mean, there's certain jobs that women just can't do.
08:43:49.560
Like in terms of like, if a man and a woman work the same job, they can make the same amount of money in most fields.
08:44:03.800
What is the male equivalent of getting flowers?
08:44:21.940
Whatever their like little autistic obsession is, like one of those.
08:44:31.180
What percent of men do you think are over six feet?
08:44:53.340
I believe the number's around 15% of men are over six feet.
08:44:57.040
What percentage of men make at least $1 million per year?
08:45:25.040
So I believe, and maybe these numbers are a bit old, to be top 1% is 400,000.
08:45:33.320
You can, I don't know the exact number, but it's less than 1%.
08:45:37.400
What percent of men have yachts, starting with Brooklyn?
08:46:24.120
We're just playing the guessing statistics game.
08:46:29.740
Have you ever slept with someone the same day you met them?
08:46:54.800
That didn't mean there were like relationships.
08:46:58.380
I mean, there was like a one night stand in there.
08:47:00.680
I feel like if your body counts 14, you have a pretty good recollection of most of those.
08:47:17.540
Um, me and my boyfriend started dating, so like almost, almost like.
08:47:33.660
Um, oh, uh, the quickest you slept with, or no.
08:47:38.040
Have you ever slept with someone the same day you met them?
08:47:52.640
Uh, for those of you who have, what's the quickest?
08:48:02.720
Like, you, from meeting them to, I feel like dating apps kind of muddy it, but I'm like,
08:48:08.700
maybe you met somebody at a party or some shit.
08:48:13.320
Like, are, in person, or is it, are we not specifying that?
08:48:17.360
Well, I feel like, how do you categorize if you, I know, you've been talking, like,
08:48:22.300
Yeah, that's what mine, a lot of mine are, like, talking to people online for, like,
08:48:26.760
It could be, like, and then meeting them in person.
08:48:33.860
That's not truly, like, first, firstly, like, just meeting somebody, though.
08:49:27.000
Um, has anyone here hooked up with two guys in a 24-hour period?
08:49:38.580
Maybe it would be, like, 24, because, like, a Saturday and a Sunday night.
08:50:28.760
No, like, I feel like I would have to be in that situation.
08:51:23.940
Um, anybody else want to take a crack at the, what is a woman?
08:51:39.900
What do you think of white people as all the white people at the table?
08:51:57.560
Like one and a half white people are staring at you right now.
08:52:34.780
No, because the perfect man would film with me.
08:52:47.600
Extremely wealthy, but, but Bill, a trillionaire.
08:52:51.540
So, whatever you're making on OnlyFans, uh, pales in comparison to, uh, billions or trillions
08:52:58.160
The, he, whatever your type is, looks-wise, maximal attractiveness in looks, personality.
08:53:17.080
So, your perfect man is the guy who cheats on you and is ugly?
08:53:20.360
No, but my perfect man doesn't, I don't, not a trillionaire.
08:53:25.600
If you don't care about that, then you can make him a millionaire.
08:53:30.100
Really, if you could, if you could, like, build the bear, your perfect man, and it's
08:53:34.480
like, does he have a trillion dollars that he can share with you?
08:53:38.940
You're not like, well, I guess I'm gonna pass on that.
08:53:41.540
I want, I want someone a little freaky, you know, like...
08:53:44.580
He would be the perfect man, so he'd be freaky, but he's also a trillionaire, and really good
08:53:47.960
looking, and loyal, and never would leave you, and treats you perfectly, and everything
08:53:58.380
I was gonna say, as young dudes, I still get freaked out, I'm good.
08:54:03.160
If you consider it your art, you could still do your art, but you wouldn't have to.
08:54:14.840
Not even tied or connected to the perfect man, if I were to say...
08:54:23.980
If I was like, here's a billion dollars, no strings attached, except you have to stop
08:54:59.440
You can't exchange goods or services for money.
08:55:14.300
So wouldn't you then have to take the perfect man?
08:55:23.200
She can't say yes, because then she has to drop the facade, and part of her bit is that
08:55:41.940
I mean, there's parts of my job that I don't love.
08:55:56.760
No, but the man is not giving you the ultimatum.
08:56:06.640
Even just giving you the money is the ultimatum.
08:56:10.300
Or don't take the money and continue what you...
08:56:13.240
I don't do well with people telling me what I can and can't do.
08:56:29.720
I'll take the billion, but the guy who's a trillionaire, who's perfect...
08:57:06.200
But if I could go back and redo it, I don't like Trump anymore.
08:57:32.560
If you take the blue pill, you stay in Wonderland.
08:57:34.220
You take the red pill, I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
08:57:44.420
No, but you can clean my studio after the show.
08:57:51.240
I'm actually really bad at cleaning, so even if you told me...
08:58:05.180
In a morally neutral, blame-free hypothetical conflict between the United States and the
08:58:09.760
Philippines, where neither side is right or wrong, to which country is your allegiance?
08:58:18.440
But your parents are from the Philippines, right?
08:58:28.940
Any final thoughts from anybody before I wrap it up?
08:58:33.040
Who would you hang out with in an elevator alone for 12 hours?
08:59:13.980
Like, under that scenario, are we, like, I don't know what I would choose.
08:59:26.500
Least unbearable to be around, like, in an elevator.
08:59:32.040
Because I don't want a girl yapping the entire time.
08:59:58.540
I'm going to blast through them in three minutes.
09:00:03.100
You said that he was the craziest person you ever met.
09:00:09.060
He made you fall so in love with him over the course of a couple months, only for you
09:00:14.060
to find out he was trying to date you and another girl at the same time.
09:00:18.140
And he was in the other relationship for over two years.
09:00:27.080
But it was now that I've matured and realized it was all manipulation on his end.
09:00:41.980
And he basically made me fall in love with him, long story short, for me to find out that
09:00:50.600
I tried telling the girl that he was a cheater.
09:00:54.140
She didn't believe me because prior, like, to everything, he was, I guess, pretty prepared.
09:01:00.420
He told her that I was some crazy, like, girl that was in love with him and stalking him.
09:01:05.640
And if I ever reached out or told her something to not listen to me.
09:01:14.820
Stayed with him, only for her to find out that he's been cheating on her with several other women.
09:01:21.500
You said he was getting at and hooking up with your, not friend, friends, plural.
09:01:33.280
But he was just running through your whole friend group?
09:01:35.420
Not friend group, but, like, people that I was friends with here and there, yeah.
09:01:40.720
It wasn't, like, sex, but it was, like, you know, like, hooking up and stuff.
09:01:50.760
So he's ugly and running, he had, what did he have?
09:02:00.220
It was, like, the first, honestly, I was really bullied in middle school and elementary school.
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And I had never really gotten any attention from men.
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So that was my first time a man had really, like, pursued me and been forward with me.
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So being so young and so unknowledgeable about why he was pursuing me, I fell for it.
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Yeah, he's, I'm so glad that he is a, like, piece of shit that has nothing going for him
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in his life now because karma, I believe in karma and I'm sure it got him really well.
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But I feel like, isn't it the modern thing where, unless you've established exclusivity,
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I wasn't, like, able, like, to me, we were, like, in a relationship.
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Because when I would try to also be open, oh, it was this huge problem.
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So that's kind of what made me think he was in love with me, which is really stupid.
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And then you said the hot take is just that each person in the relationship should be allowed
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to live their own lives and not constantly rely on one another.
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What's your take on, like, a girl going out clubbing and partying with her friends?
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If she wants to be single, she should be single.
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What about you going out without your girlfriend?
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I'd rather fucking masturbate with sandpaper than go to a fucking nightclub.
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I would rather listen to Sabrina Carpenter on repeat for 12 hours than go to a nightclub.
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You should trust your partner no matter what and let them live their own life and do their own thing.
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Because if you constrict them, that's what causes problems.
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We're not going to linger on it, but final thought on that?
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I just think that the more you trust your partner and the more individuality you let yourselves have,
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Would you be cool with your boyfriend going to a strip club?
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He was sitting there very miserable, but, you know...
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Well, what if he went alone with his boys and you know he spent some money?
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I trust him 100%, and I know he wouldn't be going for the lustful intention of it.
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Would you let him hang out with a female friend at 11 p.m. at night?
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Well, I have a bunch of friends that go and hang...
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Like, female friends that go and hang out with him all the time, and I don't see a problem with it.
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My best friend comes over to my boyfriend's house all the time when I'm not there.
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You ever seen those videos where it's, like, a video, and then...
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If your best friend doesn't get along with your...
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And they're, like, fighting, like, play-fighting each other...
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No, I think it's beautiful that you're able to trust somebody so much like that.
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I do think the play-fighting thing makes me, like, a little uncomfortable.
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Yeah, but my best friend and him are, like, brother and sister.
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They've known each other before I started dating him.
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I ain't never seen a married couple with fucking the opposite gender best friends.
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But I also have very close guy friends that I would hang out with without him there.
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I think you should trust people unless they give you a reason not to.
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And he's never, ever, ever given me the reason to not trust him.
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No, maybe I'll think about it after the show and I'll tell you.
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