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00:04:55.440 before we get into everyone's introductions. I am looking for a prop for the show and maybe a

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00:05:41.780 hey Tiffany can you close the door please

00:05:45.380 if anybody has any of these

00:05:49.380 hit me up, hit me up

00:05:52.660 why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself

00:05:55.160 starting with you, go ahead

00:05:56.760 My name's Crystal. I'm 42. High school is as far as I got education-wise, and I am an executive

00:06:04.380 assistant. I am located in Santa Barbara. Are you from here? No, I'm kind of from all over.

00:06:11.980 The most recent place outside of that is Washington. Where were you born? I was born

00:06:15.960 in Illinois. Born in Illinois, okay. And you said you're, for work, you're a... Executive assistant.

00:06:23.280 For a what?

00:06:24.820 So I don't want to disclose which company.

00:06:27.420 It's very well known.

00:06:28.260 You guys use it every day, but it's AI, one of the AI.

00:06:32.240 So a top exec.

00:06:33.820 Yeah, I think in your notes you said a billionaire.

00:06:36.780 You're an executive assistant for a billionaire.

00:06:39.080 Now, is it like his personal executive assistant or it's through the company?

00:06:43.540 I'm his personal assistant.

00:06:45.100 Okay, interesting.

00:06:46.520 Yeah.

00:06:47.520 Santa Barbara.

00:06:48.620 Is it in Santa Barbara?

00:06:50.640 So he.

00:06:52.720 Dan purchased whatever six-sex premium would be for $59.99.

00:06:57.240 It should not be triggering off of him.

00:06:58.640 You the man.

00:07:00.420 So he lives in California.

00:07:01.580 Thank you for that.

00:07:02.200 Appreciate it.

00:07:02.760 He lives in California, multiple locations.

00:07:05.440 Fair enough, fair enough.

00:07:06.600 Yeah.

00:07:07.620 It's pretty fun.

00:07:08.660 All right.

00:07:09.360 And no college, though?

00:07:11.980 No.

00:07:12.280 Okay.

00:07:13.320 What about you?

00:07:14.220 Hi, my name is Amelia.

00:07:15.520 I am 27 years old.

00:07:18.060 I live in Florida.

00:07:19.340 um i have i got my esthetician's license back in the day and i do social media and only fans

00:07:28.540 okay and you were recently on what oh yes i was recently on um season three of camp looks maxing

00:07:39.000 with clavicular and helix okay and they gave you a nickname what was the nickname they gave you

00:07:45.760 The nickname was Juggernauts.

00:07:48.220 Why did they give you that nickname?

00:07:50.020 I can only think of two really big reasons why they would give me that nickname.

00:07:54.420 Okay.

00:07:54.760 But I wasn't even there.

00:07:56.080 It just, it happened, and then someone called me by that name, and then I answered, and

00:08:00.720 now I'm Juggernauts.

00:08:02.040 There you go.

00:08:02.940 There you go.

00:08:03.720 Rock and roll.

00:08:04.820 All right.

00:08:06.620 Any college?

00:08:08.080 No, I got my Estitude.

00:08:09.420 I went to college for like a quarter of a semester before just checking out.

00:08:14.460 Gotcha.

00:08:14.840 What about you?

00:08:15.760 Hi, my name is Eden. I'm 23. And I went to Bible College, north of LA. I am, I work for my mom

00:08:25.820 and stepdad's company. It's a record label called Dream Label Group, and also their distribution

00:08:29.860 company, Ocean House Music. And then I'm a radio host in the day. And then I started YouTube live

00:08:35.880 streaming for fun. So yeah. Okay. And you said you went to Bible College? Yeah. So is that a

00:08:43.440 christian college or is that a specific it is christian so we study like pepperdine or something

00:08:48.060 um no it's not pepperdine it's um pepperdine is christian right yeah well and it's i mean

00:08:52.480 labeled as christian yeah north of la um yeah but um yeah i studied like theology history kind of

00:08:58.680 the bible okay cool yeah what about you um my name is sean i am not going to tell you my age

00:09:05.740 because i don't think age matters i am a life enrichment assistant um for a company that i am

00:09:12.960 not okay with disclosing because of the people that are there um you don't have to share the

00:09:17.240 company that's fine what do you do there um i basically do all the things i do every day

00:09:22.640 so a lot of artist stuff baking cooking okay gardening um where are you from originally

00:09:29.480 yeah chicago and any college yeah associates in what music music okay let's talk about the age

00:09:37.940 refusal really quick. I'm going to engage you on the age thing in just a moment, but first I'm

00:09:46.600 going to have the other guests introduce ourselves because I think it might take a moment. What

00:09:51.320 about you? Sure. My name is Roxanne and I'm 45 years old. I'm a college dropouts. I, my husband

00:09:58.320 and I own a distribution company, a Christian music distribution company called Ocean House

00:10:02.620 music and um i also work for my my husband has a partner a couple partners actually he owns a

00:10:07.980 christian record label so i also work for my husband's record label i'm a radio host as well

00:10:11.960 i'm a podcast host and we have i have a show as well on another radio station and uh and also do

00:10:16.820 live streaming and where are you from i'm from north of los angeles any college anything like

00:10:22.220 that i dropped out of college and then uh you used to do adult content like pornography i did i was

00:10:28.440 i was a dancer and then it kind of went into uh like men's magazines and dabbled with any other

00:10:33.200 kind of sex work escorting anything like the brothel work anything like that okay and uh for

00:10:39.000 i i'm not sure if it's been made perfectly clear to the viewers uh daughter mother yeah is that a

00:10:47.460 first on the no i think we've had one or two mom daughter combos but um but uh okay cool welcome

00:10:56.840 welcome what about you hi my name is chase banks i am a realtor by day and a model on the side and

00:11:04.520 a tiktoker i have a high school education no college and i am visiting california from hawaii

00:11:12.640 but i'm originally from new jersey and i have a new thing guys where um if the women aren't

00:11:20.960 speaking as close to the microphone as i would like i'm gonna wait chat can you guys hear this

00:11:26.400 maybe i have to do it here i don't know um sorry continue on with your introduction

00:11:33.280 um i am from new jersey but i'm visiting from from hawaii where i've lived for the past nine

00:11:39.680 years okay nice and uh age 29 29 all right 29 and um you said you do modeling i do like what

00:11:52.420 what kind of modeling? Like commercial and like regular, not really OnlyFans, just like commercial

00:11:58.840 modeling. You've never done OF though? No. Or any other kind of sex work, stripping, anything like

00:12:03.600 that? No. Okay. And sorry, did you say college? I did not go to college. No college, right. Finished

00:12:08.740 high school though, if I recall. I did. I did. Okay. What about you? Hi, Doug. My name is Envy. My online

00:12:14.400 streaming name is Envy. I'm from London, 38 years old. I'm a full-time carer for my mother, but I

00:12:20.520 also debate against the LGBT community and the trans community on TikTok but what else can I say

00:12:28.600 sorry is that it college education oh yeah sorry right high school and then I went into

00:12:35.180 university as a DM degree for digital media and okay all right what about you my name is Megan

00:12:46.780 schumacher i live on kawaii uh but grew up in texas southern texas moved to california when i

00:12:54.400 was 18 and went to five colleges i went to santa monica hoping to get into ucla went into uci and

00:13:03.540 then my mom was claiming me as a dependent and i had to redo all my residency so i ended up

00:13:11.820 transferring to cal state fullerton and then i had to go back to another community college

00:13:16.040 So college was not really my thing, and then I ended up going to a sixth university, University of Hawaii, to get my registered nursing, which I only went halfway.

00:13:28.600 And what's your degree?

00:13:32.300 So, yeah, I have two AAs technically, I guess.

00:13:36.880 And do you have a bachelor's?

00:13:38.400 No, I was about one semester shy.

00:13:42.000 Okay, so what do you have your AAs in?

00:13:44.220 Um, public relations and then whatever it was for, um, nursing.

00:13:50.560 Sure. Age?

00:13:51.700 40.

00:13:53.200 40. Okay.

00:13:55.420 Uh, okay.

00:13:57.760 In your notes, you had listed a different age.

00:14:01.560 So Chase and I are friends.

00:14:05.300 Yes.

00:14:05.840 And we had talked about it and she's like, oh, you know.

00:14:09.740 But then I decided I'm just going to be honest.

00:14:14.220 so what did you guys talk about lying that's what we're we're talking about lying about our ages and

00:14:21.480 then we decided not to because age doesn't matter well so on chase didn't lie about hers well yeah

00:14:26.740 she really is you guys in our casting we ask your age and you put your accurate age i believe you

00:14:34.340 wrote 29 you wrote i think 30 33 but i thought about putting 26 yeah well okay i had a whole

00:14:43.160 i had a whole bunch of stuff on that um what 33 well i was gonna be like there's no way you're

00:14:49.780 33 but now that you gave your real age are you not be honest you're 41 right yeah

00:14:54.540 or is it 42 no no no it's 41 1985 she said 40 but she didn't want to lie see this is why you

00:15:03.700 can't okay you know why because um because she said she was about to tell the truth

00:15:09.420 this is this is like the the fugazi but she told me you're pretty rough on the girl she said is she

00:15:16.260 said that um well i was gonna you know what i was thinking about like this is the layers you have to

00:15:21.940 peel back the onions of deception with women it's not they'll be like well i was thinking about

00:15:27.820 lying but i chose not to lie so now i'm being honest and my age is 40 oh wait but actually

00:15:31.700 your age is 41 okay um but okay at least you're like somewhat partially honest i guess but

00:15:39.300 okay so 41 all right but so what was the what were you about to say like the reason for wanting to

00:15:45.500 lie about the age she said you're a ball buster and that sometimes age matters uh i mean i don't

00:15:53.460 i don't really like if a woman introduces herself as 30 40 50 and is just honest about it there

00:16:03.480 you'll never really encounter me i i can't think back to a time where i ball bust a woman over her

00:16:12.520 age i frankly don't care okay i do care if you lie about it that's a separate issue like for

00:16:17.900 example you're 42 and if i might pay you a compliment you actually look quite striking for

00:16:23.240 42 like pretty good i gotta be honest pretty good for 42 i think pretty good anyways in any case um

00:16:29.600 did you did you detect any when she said she was 42 you said you're 45 did anyone detect any sort

00:16:37.660 of ball busting about the age i don't really care the issue is when people lie but in any case okay

00:16:43.540 she did admit at 41 um you were gonna say 33 or and that's what you know no i wasn't going to on

00:16:49.760 this one well in your notes see that's the crazy thing it's like it's what you could lie on the

00:16:55.040 show but in your notes you had told us you were 33 like in your in our in response to our casting

00:16:59.980 questions that's correct okay do you do you lie to men like when you're dating them about no no

00:17:07.580 actually it's kind of like a non-negotiable like on dating apps or something I always put my real

00:17:13.620 age gotcha uh your intro please my name is Christiane I am from Brooklyn New York I'm 44

00:17:20.740 I'm married.

00:17:21.660 I have a master's in human rights with a minor in Arabic,

00:17:25.120 and I am a high-end children's fashion designer.

00:17:28.540 And I three months I talked to.

00:17:29.900 What university did you get your...

00:17:32.900 Do I have to say?

00:17:34.020 You don't have to say?

00:17:35.200 Can you say the state?

00:17:36.320 New York City.

00:17:36.900 New York City, okay.

00:17:38.260 Master's in human rights.

00:17:40.120 That's the actual name of the major?

00:17:42.600 Okay.

00:17:43.460 That's a new one.

00:17:44.240 Interesting.

00:17:45.760 Could you give us...

00:17:46.460 And how long ago did you get your master's?

00:17:48.380 um 2008 i want to say okay so almost 20 years ago um okay do you use it at all for like

00:17:57.860 currently or even in the past or anything i mean i debate um on tiktok so i guess

00:18:03.820 somewhat but that's some application not not traditionally okay gotcha was everyone here

00:18:08.460 born in the united states yes okay um no oh oh well you're in the uk yeah london london yeah

00:18:16.100 All right, and let's see if there's anything else on that.

00:18:19.500 Coming back to you.

00:18:21.520 Yes, for me.

00:18:23.480 So you didn't want to share your age.

00:18:27.380 You care to elaborate?

00:18:29.200 So I'm one of the very rare people who don't believe that age matters for a different reason than most people say.

00:18:36.100 I think it's one of those social things that we use to box people in, to be lazy, to not get to know people.

00:18:42.320 um most people they'll say uh how old are you and you give them age and then they assume

00:18:48.080 what you know from that age range and i don't subscribe to that um okay all the other things

00:18:56.520 fall into that category also i don't do the black or white lie i don't do any of those things because

00:19:01.680 i think it keeps us from getting to know each other as human beings which is something that

00:19:06.080 we've stopped doing over the last hundred years yeah so um well before i dive into that i'd like

00:19:13.080 to get a bit more a bit more clarification so i just have a few questions um now obviously you're

00:19:19.600 on a dating podcast but in the say are you're single yes uh do you do you date men yes like

00:19:26.980 you go on dates well i don't really date at court but yeah uh are you on dating apps no okay if a

00:19:34.900 man were to approach you or whatever context you could conceive yourself to be courting with a man

00:19:41.540 I suppose uh would you refuse to give your age in that context initially yes initially yes

00:19:48.780 I mean it's it's eventually going to come out obviously when why would that be obvious

00:19:54.040 um I don't think it's obvious but eventually it's going to come out like that's that's just

00:19:59.000 what if you just perpetually refuse to give them your age I would never do that so okay is there

00:20:03.780 like a threshold so would it be three weeks three dates no i don't think that's how courting goes

00:20:08.780 no i don't know to give the age no i don't think that's how courting goes no i think

00:20:12.300 it's eventually going to come out because if we're looking at marriage then eventually it'll come out

00:20:17.040 it's about how far like have you actually done this with a guy though yeah and how long have

00:20:22.940 you done the age refusal in dating or up until we're either very serious about getting married

00:20:29.600 because it really isn't about hiding my age or anything like that.

00:20:34.820 It kind of sounds like it is, but yeah.

00:20:36.520 I understand how you can see it that way.

00:20:38.060 It's not just that I see it that way.

00:20:39.940 It just is, but go ahead.

00:20:41.760 That means you didn't listen to the reason why.

00:20:43.800 Well, people make up all kinds of justifications and copes

00:20:47.980 for why they do or don't do things,

00:20:50.140 but at the end of the day, I think we can look under the surface.

00:20:54.200 But I'm happy to kind of engage with you and hear you out a little bit.

00:20:57.880 I'm open to hearing your perspective.

00:21:00.380 Okay.

00:21:00.660 So I want to get a better sense of the context in which you do age refusal.

00:21:06.620 So what about not dating, not on a podcast, like a friend, just a friend?

00:21:16.720 You would not share your age either?

00:21:18.320 No.

00:21:19.180 Okay.

00:21:19.860 Because it's about getting to know people.

00:21:22.300 We use it as a crutch.

00:21:23.880 You can open the doors, please.

00:21:24.940 We use it as a crutch to not actually engage people and find out who they are.

00:21:29.860 And that's pretty much what we do with all the things.

00:21:32.160 So we say...

00:21:32.800 Wait, wait, wait.

00:21:33.700 That's what we do with all the things.

00:21:35.380 What I mean is...

00:21:35.780 Wait, hold on.

00:21:36.520 When you say that's what we do with all the things, what do you mean?

00:21:39.100 I mean like...

00:21:40.120 Everything about a person.

00:21:41.740 No, I mean like...

00:21:42.360 So then by your logic, we should just refuse to share anything at all.

00:21:47.800 No, that's not my logic.

00:21:49.000 People will make judgments like, for example, you're a sex worker, right?

00:21:51.640 Yeah.

00:21:52.080 People are going to make judgments about her, right?

00:21:53.780 should she withhold that because people might make a judgment that's up to her no but well

00:21:59.160 you're a christian right yes uh what denomination i'm not no denomination okay we'll get into that

00:22:06.920 so um so okay i'm a bit confused so on one hand people make judgments and so is that the basis

00:22:15.180 for your refusal to share age because someone will make an ascertainment about you no okay

00:22:22.800 It's that we use it as a crutch instead of getting to know people.

00:22:26.440 When you say we, is it you use it as a crutch or the person you're talking to uses it as a crutch?

00:22:31.420 I think people in general, especially over the last hundred years.

00:22:34.500 Last hundred years?

00:22:35.760 Yeah.

00:22:36.000 What was happening prior?

00:22:37.080 So in the 1800s, what was happening then that was different than now?

00:22:41.180 People got to know either you or your family, and they got to know your ancestors enough to actually judge perspectively.

00:22:50.140 In what context?

00:22:50.780 Meaning, for example, I mean, a very big example is using the lie of black and white.

00:22:57.940 You're white, I'm black, quote unquote.

00:22:59.860 Instead of actually back in the day, people would say, you know, who are your ancestors?

00:23:03.760 You know, who are your grandparents?

00:23:05.340 What name?

00:23:06.120 We don't do that anymore.

00:23:07.520 We actually just do the lie of putting people into boxes because it makes it more convenient for us.

00:23:13.180 We don't actually do the work to get to know people.

00:23:15.560 And I think it's the same thing with age.

00:23:17.360 It's the same thing with most things.

00:23:19.480 i think that are like social like what how we talk how we get to know people

00:23:23.460 i actually have a question well hold on before save your question because i have to have some

00:23:28.260 back and forth here so so um i'm a bit confused though so let's assume going back to an age where

00:23:36.420 there were arranged marriages so this would like predate i mean there are still arranged marriages

00:23:42.100 but this you said the past hundred years do you think people get to know someone better

00:23:47.400 now in 2026 or back when they're arranged marriages back when they're arranged marriages

00:23:51.980 how you couldn't even like have any you basically had no private time with this person it was

00:23:58.320 basically like dowry you have 10 goats we get 10 goats if if we marry and some pigs and sheep and

00:24:07.520 chickens so that that's how people like marriage back in the day was a much more practical thing

00:24:16.480 It was very much not about love.

00:24:19.460 So I would argue today, in today's current framework of dating, people get to know each other better.

00:24:25.700 And by the way, in the past, people were also sharing age.

00:24:29.620 So this idea that like 100 plus years ago, people were not disclosing their age.

00:24:33.640 This is just like very basic biographical information.

00:24:36.800 I never said they never shared their age.

00:24:38.300 What I said was people use it as a crutch nowadays.

00:24:41.500 A crutch.

00:24:41.740 People use it as a crutch.

00:24:43.160 instead of getting to know each other, we automatically use these things to put people

00:24:48.320 into boxes. So it's lazy of us. Let's say you're 37. What is the box that someone would put you in

00:24:56.600 if you were 37 as opposed to 27? They would probably say, you should probably be married.

00:25:04.560 You should probably have this or that or the other. You should have kids. You should have

00:25:07.620 gone to college. You should be wiser. That's a lie. There's no such thing as the older you get.

00:25:13.080 you get wiser that doesn't exist um that's only by experience and as a christian i think that's

00:25:18.780 only by god that you get wiser um yeah but like who cares well i think we all do i think we all

00:25:26.180 do deep down um about what what do we care about i think we care about all the things we care about

00:25:32.780 like how how you address the world your viewpoint your perspective if we're being honest everyone's

00:25:40.120 perspective is unique um and as a christian i believe everybody is unique to the point to where

00:25:45.740 if we're looking at a quilt every thread is a person there's no replacing a person so what

00:25:51.160 happens is we start to use these things as a way to just whitewash things instead of getting to

00:25:57.140 know each other we don't we don't actually take the time to get to know each other why why would

00:26:02.140 knowing someone's age like that's just you someone tells you your age you almost in whatever context

00:26:11.340 you almost never linger on it more than just acknowledging the age and then you're on to

00:26:17.440 another conversational thread and then you're learning about them and figuring out things

00:26:23.060 about them so I don't see why you say people get hung up on age or get stuck on age you literally

00:26:28.500 say the age i never said okay great i never said people get stuck up stuck on it what i said is we

00:26:33.440 use it as a crutch so so you said something else there that you just said something very accurate

00:26:39.520 you said we talk about age and then we move on and my goal is to not not get stuck on something

00:26:47.260 because it really is that we're boxing each other and i ask you your age ask you i i assume quote

00:26:52.680 unquote that you're black or white which is not true instead of saying you know are you irish are

00:26:57.420 you're italian are you whatever um i assume that jason scott purchased whatever t-shirt for 31.99

00:27:05.000 m1sb uh thank you i don't know why our tts is triggering on the merch um okay so a couple things

00:27:15.540 then um you you write the following about this you stopped asking for others giving out your

00:27:22.540 age about 10 years ago when God, God convicted you on how we, we abuse this fact, the fact of age

00:27:30.280 among others to conveniently box others in, into neat, unrealistic categories, instead of doing

00:27:38.280 the hard work of getting to know each other as individuals. Mike, there's a lot of disagreements

00:27:43.360 here. My initial contention with that final sentence there, instead of doing the hard work

00:27:48.780 of getting to know each other as individuals.

00:27:51.620 The reason I mentioned, well, you just ask the age

00:27:54.440 and then you're on to the next thing.

00:27:56.400 It takes five or 10 seconds to ask someone's age,

00:27:59.560 get the response.

00:28:00.860 And then thereafter, you can do the hard work

00:28:04.360 of getting to know each other.

00:28:05.820 So revealing someone's age does not preclude you

00:28:08.380 from doing the hard work of getting to know somebody.

00:28:11.580 Yes, it does.

00:28:12.500 Let me tell you why.

00:28:13.500 What you've done is, let me put it to you this way.

00:28:17.360 If there are boxes there, you've checked the box.

00:28:19.760 What goes with the box?

00:28:20.920 You've already put them in a category of what goes with the box.

00:28:23.260 So now everything you ask them from here on out will be pertaining to that box.

00:28:28.760 Not necessarily.

00:28:30.100 I haven't run into any situation where people don't do that.

00:28:33.800 Well, hold on.

00:28:34.580 Wait, wait, wait.

00:28:35.080 Hold on.

00:28:36.040 You said every other thing will be viewed from a lens of this person is this age.

00:28:42.580 First off, that's completely wrong.

00:28:44.120 For example, I believe people of all ages enjoy breathing, regardless of their age.

00:28:50.280 Of course.

00:28:51.000 Yeah, and I can make determinations like, do you like chicken?

00:28:53.700 Yeah.

00:28:54.580 So I would not do an analysis of whether or not someone likes chicken based on their age.

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00:29:31.560 ...through age are viewed through the framework.

00:29:33.760 You've put them in a box.

00:29:34.960 But like, if I ask someone,

00:29:36.060 hey, what's your favorite food?

00:29:37.540 Oh, well, she's 40.

00:29:38.840 This bitch isn't going to like spicy food.

00:29:41.580 I'm not saying you're a bitch.

00:29:42.480 I'm saying like...

00:29:42.960 No, I got it.

00:29:43.220 I think what you're doing is you're displaying that you think differently than most people.

00:29:52.120 But to be fair, Brian, most people do that.

00:29:54.420 Most people go.

00:29:55.300 They don't.

00:29:56.620 Well, from what I've experienced, how about I just make it personal?

00:29:59.720 That is absolutely what happens.

00:30:01.840 And it was one of those things.

00:30:03.360 Tell me what they do.

00:30:06.720 Cook Reef.

00:30:07.940 I have to create a scenario.

00:30:10.320 So it's not a reel?

00:30:11.900 I mean, I could give you a reel, but I mean, like I.

00:30:14.240 I'm just confused.

00:30:15.040 Okay.

00:30:15.320 Say you're 35.

00:30:17.780 But also people can infer your age to some degree based on how your appearance.

00:30:23.500 And that's to some degree.

00:30:24.480 They're going to do that.

00:30:25.300 And then they can also somewhat infer, like get some sense of it.

00:30:29.540 You know, it might be like, like, for example, if you were to say, well, when did you graduate

00:30:32.980 from high school?

00:30:33.920 Right.

00:30:34.420 Well, that'd be a pretty good indicator, right?

00:30:36.020 Right.

00:30:36.360 Would you, question, would you refuse to answer something that could hint at?

00:30:41.280 I usually do so somebody says well what year did you graduate high school because people go out of

00:30:45.460 their way so here's the thing most of my most of my encounters with people when I do this is most

00:30:49.660 people have a hard time dealing with it like you no I don't have a hard time dealing with someone's

00:30:54.660 age no I have a hard time with people who and by the way you invoke God which I'm about to fucking

00:31:00.880 scorch you on but I have a hard time with people who want to like unnecessarily complicate just

00:31:09.960 basic simple questions that you you've created this fantasy in your mind oh my god people are

00:31:16.460 gonna box put me in a box because i i tell them i'm in my 30s like who cares bro who fucking cares

00:31:22.160 and by the way this is going to comport with christianity which i'm about to as a non-christian

00:31:28.080 i really shouldn't have to be educating you on this but i'm about to um go ahead and continue

00:31:32.540 with your point though um i don't think that um when it comes to asking god or letting him

00:31:44.520 convict me on things it's not for anyone else to say whether it is or it's not um how about

00:31:49.560 scripture you can go with scripture does your vein and like well is this going to be like a

00:31:57.700 sola scriptura like up to your interpretation does does if i were to point out like how familiar

00:32:03.840 are you with scripture i think i'm pretty familiar but i'm not a so if i were to point out like

00:32:09.940 a couple different verses that were completely contradictory to this age refusal thing would

00:32:15.220 you re-examine your position of course okay cool we'll get to that in a moment um a couple

00:32:20.540 clarifications in the term i was asking you questions about the context so you're saying

00:32:25.780 you would withhold this even in a one-on-one private because I can understand some women

00:32:30.700 have come on the show well I'm an actress and I want to withhold my age because I'm going to get

00:32:34.560 typecast or judged based off my age and not get certain I mean that's bullshit but not get certain

00:32:39.740 acting jobs or roles because it's bullshit no no it's not because I've had roles said to me and

00:32:44.400 they say we're only going to cast this certain age range but I've had people tell me that you

00:32:49.380 shouldn't say your age so that's why I was thinking about lying talent then the cream rises to the top

00:32:55.500 All the best models, all the best actresses, we know their exact birthdates.

00:33:01.180 If it was the case that somehow it would be bad for your career to reveal your age,

00:33:06.940 why are the most successful A-list celebrities across all entertainment and media industries,

00:33:11.920 we all know their age?

00:33:13.200 It's just like Cope from D-tier, fucking nobody, actresses and models.

00:33:18.760 It's like nobody cares.

00:33:21.080 That's because they're well-known.

00:33:22.240 So while you're trying to make it, it's important that you're not typecast into these things.

00:33:27.760 I can tell you, as somebody who, have you acted before?

00:33:31.620 No, not really.

00:33:32.760 I was in a play when I was in elementary school or junior high school or something.

00:33:38.540 You do get told that you're only supposed to apply for these roles and then they'll typecast you.

00:33:43.540 But I kind of, I'm tired of that.

00:33:46.080 And I think that you don't die after 23, especially as a woman.

00:33:49.480 So that's why I decided to stay my age.

00:33:51.200 anyways that's a bit besides the point but um where was i um i think you were going to

00:33:57.680 the dating context the date no the dating context so um i understand i understand sometimes people

00:34:05.980 are apprehensive about sharing it like publicly in front of a live audience like this um but i guess

00:34:11.960 in a dating context you say you also refuse to share your age in like even a platonic context

00:34:19.520 in a business context, would you refuse to share your age? Okay. Um, let's just talk about the

00:34:24.660 dating context. So you meet a guy and he's like, Hey, um, you know, ask your name. Would you say

00:34:32.360 your name? Yeah. Wait, I'm confused. Why would you not refuse to share your name? What? What's

00:34:38.060 your name? Sean, Sean. Whoa. People are going to like box you up because your name's Sean.

00:34:43.620 Why would you should refuse your name? Okay. No, seriously. People, I think people will judge

00:34:48.820 more off a name than off of age. I don't agree. Okay. How about this? Okay, let's get back to

00:35:02.840 dating context. Remind me, how long have you been doing the age refusal thing? About 10 years.

00:35:10.700 How many relationships have you had in that 10-year period? Relationships? Guys you were dating,

00:35:16.300 Sure, long-term boyfriends, short-term, whatever?

00:35:19.560 Because I court, I have only had one relationship other than that.

00:35:25.880 When you say you court, what do you mean?

00:35:28.040 So I'm a 1940s kind of person.

00:35:29.960 So meaning that...

00:35:30.820 Show me your tattoo?

00:35:32.900 Yes.

00:35:33.660 Show me your tattoo?

00:35:35.960 Do you have other tattoos?

00:35:37.900 I have one here and one here.

00:35:40.180 That would not be acceptable in the 1940s.

00:35:42.220 I agree with you.

00:35:43.220 Absolutely unacceptable.

00:35:44.380 I agree with you.

00:35:45.420 Okay.

00:35:45.920 But you're a 1940s person.

00:35:47.300 Yes.

00:35:47.740 Got it.

00:35:48.260 Yeah.

00:35:48.800 So anyways, courtship, you're a 1940s person.

00:35:51.820 Are you a virgin?

00:35:52.900 No.

00:35:54.840 You're willing to, I was surprised you actually revealed that you're a virgin.

00:35:57.920 Because you've decided what you think, I'm not telling you my age is for and you're not listening.

00:36:03.180 What I said is it's because people put people in boxes.

00:36:06.480 You're willing to reveal you've had sexual intercourse, which is a bigger, like, if you think revealing age is going to give you a negative mark,

00:36:14.040 like conceivably not being a virgin as compared to age like just to be clear I don't think it's

00:36:20.400 like if a woman is not a virgin that's not a negative mark on her necessarily but it's

00:36:25.740 interesting like age is what you get stuck on but like oh I've like fucked dudes and men have

00:36:29.980 been inside me that's fine all right so I would never say it that way one two okay you're not a

00:36:35.620 one two if I'm dating then I think there are some things that are beyond the scope of like if you're

00:36:41.700 putting people in boxes and not getting to know people although i think that's definitely something

00:36:46.020 that guys and women that most people would judge on anyway i do think that's a little deceitful

00:36:51.280 in dating though because i've had guys lie to me um and tell me that they're younger than they

00:36:56.000 actually are and i don't like it and i it it makes it starts off the whole relationship with

00:37:01.380 distrust yes um so the courtship 1940s 10 past 10 years you've only seen one guy is do i have that

00:37:10.760 I only had one relationship.

00:37:12.200 One relationship, but there were other men you had courted during that period.

00:37:15.080 Yes.

00:37:15.700 So how many different men were you courting with?

00:37:19.280 I've only courted three.

00:37:21.020 And plus one, the relationship guy, or three total, including the group?

00:37:25.020 Three total, including the group.

00:37:25.820 Three total.

00:37:26.360 So the two that never made it to a relationship, they were just courting.

00:37:29.820 Did you reveal that?

00:37:30.660 So the way courting works is you're starting from the beginning.

00:37:34.520 Like what you would do in regular dating is you say maybe six months out, we're starting to get serious.

00:37:38.260 courtship you start automatically serious we're talking about three dates and you know

00:37:43.400 if you will or won't be married you know if this is somebody who you're gonna travel with so um

00:37:47.700 so let's start with the first two those were the shorter ones what was the total length of time

00:37:51.780 that you were um talking to them courting in courtship or about three months three months

00:37:57.340 each each about yeah about okay and for both of those did you refuse to share your age

00:38:03.100 mm-hmm they never asked actually i find that how did you meet them really problematic

00:38:10.200 i think you're making decisions for people by withholding no they no they never asked to know

00:38:16.440 i agree with you i agree why are you taking that away i said it several times that i think it's

00:38:22.840 something that people use as a crutch and i think what happens is we don't choice that's also removing

00:38:29.500 their choice by not telling the truth and it's not about me telling the truth I will eventually

00:38:33.740 tell the truth I have no problem with that eventually tell it yeah yeah okay let's go

00:38:38.900 to the relationship how long was the relationship um it was about like total when I say relationship

00:38:44.800 not when the relationship started not like from the beginning when you met to end how long was

00:38:51.320 about five months five months did you share age yes eventually how how soon in uh we were about

00:38:58.100 three months in three months in we were really oh boy if those two other guys made a few more days

00:39:02.060 maybe they would have got the the age but now did he ask for it no this seems like super basic to

00:39:10.140 like just ask somebody most how are you meeting them it's normal meet like i went out and they

00:39:18.400 happen to be there at karaoke or whatever okay if you'd be surprised like i know and it's a hard

00:39:23.340 concept for most people to accept because we use it so much as a crutch we should I we it should

00:39:29.520 be hard concept to accept we should reject this but um okay so you meet a guy and he just asks

00:39:38.520 your age first time meeting how's it like uh let's role play it oh hey Sean I'm just curious

00:39:45.940 like how old are you I'll never tell what's that I'll never tell oh why is that because I think

00:39:52.580 people use it as a crutch i think instead of you should get to know me and i'll never i do want to

00:39:57.440 get to know you i'm just like curious about your age right i'll never ask you your age i don't ask

00:40:02.040 people their age and i will never tell you mine okay well i'm i'm 73 i don't care oh okay cool

00:40:08.600 uh i love that for you okay so a couple things here so this is there's a there's a somewhat

00:40:17.140 almost sweet irony to this. I think most people, myself included, would judge you far more

00:40:24.500 sharply and harshly for your somewhat peculiar and vain refusal to disclose your age.

00:40:30.860 Why do you call it vain?

00:40:31.720 Hold on. I'll get to that. Then they would if you just simply told them that you were

00:40:37.080 33 or 29 or whatever it is. You're so concerned about being put into a box or judged for your age

00:40:46.580 that you've adopted a behavior you're making that hold on it's not personal hold on you've

00:40:51.800 adopted a behavior that invites even harsher judgment now i think the strongest um the

00:41:01.680 strongest thing here is by refusing to disclose your your age you're causing more people to make

00:41:09.280 a more unflattering uh make more unflattering assumptions about you i don't care uh then they

00:41:17.780 otherwise well if you didn't care about their unflattering i'm confused on one hand you don't

00:41:23.180 care if they have unflattering assumptions about you it's therefore you should not care about

00:41:28.260 disclosing your age telling you see this is the thing when this is people use it as a crutch

00:41:32.180 so the receiver of the age uses it as a crutch to not get to know people why how does it follow

00:41:39.060 that by knowing someone's age, like I'm, I'm confused. Uh, guys who are dating, who are like,

00:41:45.760 wait, wait, this is really, well, there's so many angles here. Don't you think if eventually this

00:41:53.340 will be an issue and you're saying, well, they would refuse to want to get to know you if they

00:41:57.500 knew your age. Shouldn't you say that? That's basically what you said. That's what you say.

00:42:02.260 I'm one of those people who say what I mean. I didn't say what you just said. I'm saying we use

00:42:06.920 it as a crutch to not get to know each other just like black and white hold on hold on how does it

00:42:13.740 follow that by knowing someone's age i would use it i would use it as a crutch to not get to know

00:42:21.300 someone how does that follow because with age we usually bracket people into what we think they

00:42:27.000 know wisdom we think their experiences in life we bracket them in instead of so you're first off

00:42:32.400 false erroneous now look i don't agree with you did you have an experience that made this so

00:42:38.920 deeply ingrained in you no so i really do i mean as as much as brian kind of pissed shot it off um

00:42:45.860 i had like god convicted me on it because i used to do it to people um and so it was like that he

00:42:52.280 convicted me he was like how dare you put people in a box and assume what they do or don't know

00:42:58.540 their experiences and it's lazy and so from there i stopped doing it because you did and my experiences

00:43:04.940 have been amazing because i get to know people i get to know people we are so lazy about it

00:43:10.400 really quick i i this is a bit um actually never mind i but that's interesting it's yeah it was

00:43:18.380 your thought process initially that you established yourself because you did it upon others it was

00:43:24.580 something that God convicted me on. So it was something that I did to, I had been doing it and

00:43:28.300 it was something that God. So God speaks to you? Yeah, he speaks to all of us if you listen.

00:43:31.740 So hold on. Just very quick, sorry. So if you had that thought process and you were like, right,

00:43:37.700 because I know this person's age, I'm either going to engage or disengage with this individual,

00:43:42.400 right? And that's what your, what the thing was. Oh, sorry. Sorry, sorry. That hand is too much.

00:43:49.940 So you're, sorry, you explained that your thought process. No, it wasn't my thought. It was.

00:43:54.420 sorry, a conviction from God, right? That you were judging individuals and engaging or disengaging

00:43:59.980 with them based on their age, correct? Yeah. And other things. Yeah. Okay. Right. This is just a

00:44:05.400 part of the things that he convicted me on. This is one. Okay. Fair. So we'll stick on that little

00:44:09.340 bit. So why not know their age and then not put them in a box because of their age? Why disconnect

00:44:18.220 from giving the age? If you want to change things, like, you know, you can have a conversation. Like

00:44:22.960 I'm 38 years old.

00:44:24.980 I might not want to engage with a 20-year-old.

00:44:27.640 So I bear that right because it's a decision that impacts my life.

00:44:32.540 But if that's you and you want to engage with anyone from the ages of 20 to 40...

00:44:36.920 You just proved my point.

00:44:38.100 Go on.

00:44:38.680 You automatically assume that if they're 28, you just proved my point.

00:44:42.980 But it's okay.

00:44:43.640 She just proved my point.

00:44:44.140 That's okay.

00:44:44.700 So for me, being convicted on it means that God holds me accountable.

00:44:51.880 So because he holds me accountable, I can't just engage beyond what he tells me.

00:44:58.740 If it doesn't matter for you, then I think it's fair for you to be like, you know what?

00:45:02.600 I, you, don't care what their age is.

00:45:06.260 However, withholding it from somebody else's judgment is wrong.

00:45:11.860 Did you want to continue?

00:45:12.720 Yeah, please.

00:45:13.460 So if I'm to go out, for example, to like a club or a bar,

00:45:16.940 or there's certain conversations or context that I'm going to speak about,

00:45:21.260 I don't want to do that with someone who's

00:45:23.260 younger than, I don't want to do that

00:45:24.760 so yeah, and you can raise your eyebrows at

00:45:27.320 me because of that, but I would deem you

00:45:29.480 the inappropriate one here

00:45:30.900 this is how I want to live my life

00:45:33.060 so you should be able to dictate

00:45:35.340 that to me, oh sorry, don't dictate

00:45:37.440 you don't have to look at it, just straight

00:45:39.200 I'm sorry, oh do I have to look straight?

00:45:40.960 oh I'm sorry, don't dictate

00:45:43.160 what I should do with my life

00:45:45.140 because you don't want to say it

00:45:47.300 so your understanding is

00:45:49.340 I should fold for what you want.

00:45:51.860 No, you can do what you want,

00:45:53.700 but if you're going to make the judgment

00:45:56.320 that everybody is putting everybody into a box

00:45:58.420 because of it, that's our prerogative.

00:46:00.780 If you want to engage with somebody

00:46:02.600 without knowing their age,

00:46:04.420 that's on you, but that's not...

00:46:06.480 So you're saying I should ignore God's conviction

00:46:08.600 and do what you want me to do?

00:46:10.180 There's no biblical...

00:46:11.620 Hold on. A couple things.

00:46:14.420 Do you think

00:46:14.960 prescriptively you would say

00:46:18.300 other people should do this too i just had a conviction no he said you're talking shit

00:46:22.440 okay wait i understand answer the question i'm i you know convictions are different for everyone

00:46:27.760 hold on answer my question no what was i'm sorry repeat your question again because i want to

00:46:32.140 answer it honestly what did you say is god's only convicting you like if this is the right way for

00:46:37.400 things to be shouldn't you like say prescriptively other people should adhere to your aid i can't

00:46:43.160 force no that that goes in the flag in the face of free will do you think a woman assume like a

00:46:47.400 woman sneaks into a nightclub who thinks

00:46:49.420 just like you and she's

00:46:50.960 15 and she's underage

00:46:53.640 and

00:46:54.540 Akon is doing

00:46:57.340 a

00:46:57.840 concert in this

00:47:01.480 club and the woman

00:47:03.120 refuses to share her age with Akon

00:47:05.360 but he has an assumption that

00:47:07.160 because she's in the nightclub and they're carting

00:47:09.360 people or whatever that she's

00:47:11.340 21. Do you think that a woman who's

00:47:13.440 underage should withhold her age

00:47:15.500 knowing she's a minor? If she's going

00:47:17.240 into the club no no but hold on so if i go to a club i give them my id no well to the club but

00:47:22.200 like assume a guy in there no that's deception hold on a man in there has no idea what your

00:47:26.400 actual age may be no especially if you're going to get if you're something illegal absolutely not

00:47:30.540 well it's not illegal for you she's being deceptive it's not illegal for the woman but you put the man

00:47:35.060 at great peril yeah i agree like serious that's what said to me that's illegal to me to me that's

00:47:40.180 not okay for you to do that but it's not illegal for the woman necessarily necessarily i think for

00:47:44.800 me in my in my realm of thinking that is that's not like i would consider that man to do that

00:47:50.020 well but it's illegal for her to have like a fake i mean yeah no no well as soon as they just let

00:47:54.700 her in and she didn't even and there's the big assumption but she withholds her well but then

00:47:57.580 that should be on on the the bar is going against the law by allowing minors and then that's

00:48:02.820 automatically everything you're giving me is continually you all are continuing to forget

00:48:08.280 that my reasoning is because people judge each other incorrectly which is what you did hold on

00:48:13.380 Not for me.

00:48:14.700 Not for me.

00:48:15.780 She brought up a good thing because she says envy.

00:48:20.000 Envy, yeah.

00:48:20.660 Envy says that, well, as the woman, she wouldn't want to date like a guy who's maybe too young or maybe even too old, perhaps.

00:48:27.480 No, she didn't even say date.

00:48:28.440 She said talk to someone.

00:48:29.700 Well, that's totally fine.

00:48:31.000 That's not fine because that's exactly what goes to my point.

00:48:33.440 No, it is fine.

00:48:34.220 That goes to my point.

00:48:35.100 Hold on.

00:48:35.640 There's a box there that she's locking people up.

00:48:39.480 Age isn't some arbitrary social construct.

00:48:42.320 It has real-world implications.

00:48:44.920 I agree.

00:48:45.220 It's a biological category.

00:48:46.640 But hold on, especially in dating and marriage.

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00:49:21.940 From the male perspective, it's actually a greater thing because there's certain things like fertility and reproductive timeline.

00:49:31.060 So if you're a woman and, like, you're kind of duping and deceiving a guy by saying,

00:49:36.220 okay I'm not going to like like let's say you're just I don't know black don't crack and you're

00:49:40.320 fucking 40 or some shit what there are some black women who are like so you just did you just did a

00:49:44.820 box right there you assume who cares that mean but that's the whole point you're asking who cares

00:49:49.060 yeah it's no okay that's something that I was convicted on all those boxes are things that we

00:49:53.220 use not to get that's irrelevant to what I'm about to argue here not to so I don't but because

00:49:59.180 that's my argument is not about you necessarily it's about like a guy who's potentially going

00:50:03.840 to date you and assume he wants kids. Let's assume for a second that your age is 40. Now,

00:50:09.960 women can still get pregnant 40, 41, 42, 43. It becomes more difficult. There's certain additional

00:50:15.360 risks. There's a risk to her risk to the baby. Women can still get pregnant at this age. But

00:50:21.760 if you withhold this from a man who say wants seven children, look, if I was going to advise a

00:50:26.720 man who wants seven children, I'd be like, you got to be practical and realistic about the age

00:50:32.780 of the woman who you're going to date. You're probably not going to pick the 40 year old.

00:50:36.420 You're going to pick like, I mean, you're going to try to go 25. You could go 30. Um, but you're

00:50:41.840 going to go younger. You refusing to share your age and you date intentionally, right? You're not

00:50:46.880 just dating for funsies and just for a good time or for casual sex. You want to date for marriage.

00:50:52.020 You, do you want kids? Yes. Right. So age has an impact on fertility. A man who's like trying to

00:50:59.900 be discerning especially a christian man who's trying to be discerning as to who he's going to

00:51:03.460 date and by the way the be fruitful and multiply the bible calls on you know um right right adam

00:51:09.580 what is the um uh what is that verse um blessed blessed is the man who in his youth uh has many

00:51:20.520 many sons good for you like in the i'm butchering it no you're you're getting it you're getting it

00:51:25.660 Like arrows in the quiver of a warrior, something like that.

00:51:30.900 You got it.

00:51:32.160 So there are instructions in the Bible.

00:51:34.280 Be fruitful and multiply that one.

00:51:36.560 I don't argue those, Brian.

00:51:38.520 All of those apply.

00:51:39.720 If a man who's interested in dating you and wants to have kids.

00:51:42.620 If he asks me seriously and that's happened before, I will say so.

00:51:46.820 Say what?

00:51:47.780 I will give him my age because I think that's important to him.

00:51:51.320 You're not listening.

00:51:52.040 But it's default important to men who are dating intentionally to know the fertility capability of a woman.

00:51:57.280 I just said I would give – you're not –

00:51:59.180 You're the one who said you would wait until three months into the courtship.

00:52:03.340 That's what you said.

00:52:04.600 Ryan, I know that you guys are having a hard time applying, which is most people, that it's about putting people in boxes.

00:52:11.760 That's it.

00:52:12.380 Sean, can I ask you a question?

00:52:13.860 Everything else is not about anything other than the way we judge each other.

00:52:18.900 It's not about – like I've been –

00:52:20.620 Hold on.

00:52:20.940 and ask the question let's have you ask a question good yeah um what was your occupation again a life

00:52:26.220 coach no or something along that no can you remind me what it was you wouldn't even know what it was

00:52:32.140 even if i okay well i'm guessing it has something to do with bettering the lives of people yes okay

00:52:37.060 so how are you living authentically if you are denying part of yourself like i'm not i hid from

00:52:44.000 the truth a lot in my life and i'm proud of my age i'm proud of you guys are projecting so much

00:52:50.340 who i am no i'm just saying like yeah you are because i haven't said any of those reasons

00:52:54.360 i haven't based it i haven't said any of those reasons what other people are going i am not

00:52:59.360 worried about any of that i have literally with your age yeah why are you so uncomfortable with

00:53:04.900 other people knowing it's not literally y'all are not listening i've said i'm listening no you

00:53:09.880 are no i said it's about judging people and it was something god convicted me on so in that in

00:53:16.100 that vein i don't do it to others and i don't give it out myself because i don't want to put

00:53:20.740 myself in jeopardy what did god specifically convict you like what did god say well i was

00:53:25.120 what i was doing is i was judging people for things that don't matter your skin tone um your age

00:53:32.800 um your experiences instead of getting to know people and i've learned that a lot of people

00:53:38.300 most people we do that either unintentionally that's not for you to be the arbiter no it's

00:53:44.780 I know.

00:53:45.420 That's not for you to be the arbiter of about other people.

00:53:48.000 I know it's not my job to be the arbiter.

00:53:49.840 So if somebody asks your age, just give the fucking age.

00:53:52.160 But if God convicts me on it, I'm going to continue to follow what he is convicting.

00:53:55.620 Okay, well, it's completely contradictory to scripture, which I'm about to get into.

00:53:59.040 Can I?

00:53:59.920 Let me have my full back and forth, and if you guys want to jump in after I'm done, you guys can.

00:54:06.800 So you're trying to avoid being judged by your age.

00:54:09.100 In the process, yes, you are.

00:54:12.160 Well, I was judging people by my age, so I don't want people to do that, so I'm refusing to shit at age.

00:54:16.480 That is not what I said.

00:54:17.580 That's literally what you said.

00:54:18.500 No, it is not.

00:54:19.300 I said he convicted me on it, and therefore I'm going to follow his convictions.

00:54:23.860 I'm not saying it's not hard, Brian.

00:54:25.480 Stop.

00:54:25.800 The conviction would be you cease judging people by all these metrics by which you were judging people.

00:54:31.380 Yes.

00:54:31.720 It's not your place to have others cease their judgments of you, especially over something completely benign as age.

00:54:38.840 There's nothing biblical.

00:54:40.480 There's no, like, scriptural command to refuse to share your age.

00:54:44.940 There's nothing in the Bible about that.

00:54:46.520 In fact, there's things contrary to what you're doing, which I'm about to get into.

00:54:50.120 Let me finish my things before you jump in here, though.

00:54:52.960 I think that the latter judgment, which is, like, so you're avoiding sharing your age.

00:54:58.580 In the process, you're inviting people to judge your, like, kind of bratty, annoying character.

00:55:05.280 Wow.

00:55:05.460 Which I think this latter judgment is going to be a lot less flattering.

00:55:08.740 so like say

00:55:10.240 say someone judges your age because

00:55:12.860 let's you're 35 let's say you're

00:55:15.000 35 and you're like wow someone might

00:55:16.960 judge my age because I'm 35

00:55:18.480 I think you're going to be much more harshly judged

00:55:21.160 by like most

00:55:23.040 men I'm just telling you most

00:55:25.060 men unless they're like giga simps

00:55:27.300 and like about to get

00:55:29.060 completely cucked by you and fucking

00:55:31.100 pussy whipped

00:55:32.120 unless they're about to get fucked

00:55:34.620 where is it

00:55:35.380 most men are going to be like this

00:55:38.620 chick's fucking insane goodbye wow yeah versus like oh she's 30 cool like i still want to date

00:55:45.980 her so you're gonna lose you're like filtering out men who would otherwise date you the other

00:55:50.480 thing here um assume that a man has no problem with you being 33 whatever your age is they'll

00:55:57.900 definitely have a problem with you being a whack job and refusing to share your age wow um they're

00:56:03.040 gonna judge you harsher on the basis of this really peculiar age refusal thing than just

00:56:08.320 saying if you're that age now can you tell me where in the bible does god tell tell us that

00:56:14.360 revealing age is wrong he doesn't nowhere right uh it but it doesn't treat age as irrelevant

00:56:20.820 now i'd like to i wrote these down i'm going to reference a couple pieces of scripture here

00:56:25.420 proverbs proverbs 20 29 distinguishes the strength of young men from the gray hair of older men

00:56:33.760 Titus 2, 3-5, distinguishes older and younger women and gives them different responsibilities.

00:56:40.740 1 Timothy 5, 1-2, explicitly distinguishes how older and younger men and women should be treated.

00:56:48.700 Ecclesiastes, I don't know if I'm saying that right, 3-1, recognizes the different seasons of life have different purposes.

00:56:57.420 And by the way, so you're a Christian, right?

00:56:59.860 Everything you're saying is correct.

00:57:01.340 Hold on, hold on.

00:57:02.140 You're saying God convicted you that age creates unrealistic categories.

00:57:07.040 Scripture repeatedly recognizes age as a meaningful distinction.

00:57:12.960 So how do you reconcile your personal conviction with Scripture, which should supersede your whatever?

00:57:23.660 God tells us to actually get to know people as they are.

00:57:28.280 And you can get to know people

00:57:30.360 Let me ask you a question

00:57:32.400 You asked me to answer the question

00:57:34.560 I want to respond to that really quickly though

00:57:36.180 Can you repeat what you just said?

00:57:38.460 God asks us to get to know people

00:57:40.620 As they are

00:57:41.400 Is it impossible to get to know someone

00:57:44.060 As they are if they're like

00:57:45.820 I'm 27

00:57:46.780 So then why the fuck

00:57:50.400 Are you using that as justification?

00:57:53.300 Brian

00:57:53.680 Sean

00:57:55.040 I have said it over and over again

00:57:57.820 it's about the fact that we put people in boxes we use it as a crutch to not get to know people

00:58:02.520 but and because of that that is not biblical using things as a crutch and we use it in today's

00:58:09.100 society in so many ways so in order to stop doing that you're not in control of other people i'm

00:58:15.300 not which is why i'm sticking with my convictions you're making this some first off it wouldn't

00:58:20.300 necessarily be like let me ask you a question even a christian man even the devoutly i mean

00:58:25.740 you're non-denominational but like devoutly orthodox devoutly catholic what would be wrong

00:58:31.240 with a 30 year old man refusing outright to date a 50 year old woman can you tell me what would

00:58:37.280 ever be wrong with that nothing hold on but he's using just her age to completely reject her as a

00:58:43.400 potential romantic partner explain why it's wrong because he's not i would i wouldn't judge that

00:58:48.920 situation specifically what i'm saying is we use it as a crutch to not get we use it as a crutch

00:58:53.740 To not get to know people

00:58:56.460 30 year old man meets a great

00:58:58.380 25 year old woman

00:58:59.660 And the 25 year old woman says

00:59:01.740 I'm 25 and the 30 year old man

00:59:04.440 Has no fucking issue with it

00:59:06.280 What so ever

00:59:07.120 Can you explain to me

00:59:08.480 What is the crutch that he's going to do

00:59:12.460 Now that he knows he's 25

00:59:14.480 And he has zero fucking issue

00:59:16.340 With her age

00:59:16.940 I already said

00:59:19.100 That it's about not getting to know people

00:59:22.260 So what we do

00:59:23.060 Okay, it's about not getting to know people.

00:59:25.980 What is the way in which this 30-year-old man who's talking to a 25-year-old woman who has no issue with her age, how would it prevent him from getting to know her?

00:59:35.540 Because automatically most people will use age as a Richter scale, a box of what experience, what wisdom, what they've done in life, and we go with that instead of actually finding out about people.

00:59:49.820 Can I break in here?

00:59:50.860 Yeah, go ahead.

00:59:52.100 Please and thank you.

00:59:52.680 Wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry. I have to do some. Wait, wait, wait. I got to do a few more things here.

00:59:58.820 Yeah. So let me ask you a question. Say a guy, say, say a guy who is trying to court you and he

01:00:07.980 wants to know right away. And he's like, listen, and he tells you, and he, you can detect through

01:00:14.640 your women senses or whatever. Like he's being completely genuine and honest. And he says,

01:00:20.340 hey, I understand that other people judge you in this way.

01:00:23.720 However, I will not judge you.

01:00:27.080 If your age is between 20 and 40, I like you.

01:00:30.940 I'm not going to judge you.

01:00:33.360 So even if your age falls between the range that he won't judge,

01:00:37.620 you're going to be, oh, my God, bro.

01:00:39.140 You're assuming what I would say, Brian.

01:00:42.680 It would be hard for me not to tell him because the genuineness is there.

01:00:47.140 but I would remember my conviction

01:00:49.360 is from the other end like I don't

01:00:51.100 God tells you no no what I'm saying

01:00:53.180 is that my conviction is about judging

01:00:54.940 others first so I would I wouldn't

01:00:57.260 want to put him in a position where I'm

01:00:59.140 asking him his age because he

01:01:01.160 feels like but I would want to tell

01:01:03.240 him my age I would so I would probably go

01:01:05.300 does it matter if I know

01:01:07.260 your age I mean like I don't

01:01:09.360 think it matters but if that's the case I'll

01:01:11.240 definitely share with you I'm hyperventilating

01:01:13.080 I have to say

01:01:14.060 i'm gonna say that you're gonna be close to 50 okay that's gonna just be my guess for like

01:01:23.460 the reason why you're hiding your age okay that's just gonna be my guess you're probably not close

01:01:28.080 to 50 but i'm just gonna say that's gonna be my guess i'll say i'm gonna say you're 48 for this

01:01:33.620 for this conversation okay so you go out and you meet a guy who's like 23 and you guys go on dates

01:01:40.980 and he has no idea that you're 48, right?

01:01:43.040 Or whatever you are.

01:01:45.120 And he proposes to you and still doesn't know your age.

01:01:47.920 And he wants to have children.

01:01:50.020 We would have the conversation before he got there.

01:01:51.740 But what if he proposed to you in two months?

01:01:55.700 We would have the conversation before he got there.

01:01:57.960 How?

01:01:58.120 Because I'm listening to God.

01:02:00.220 He's convicting me on it.

01:02:01.540 So it's not, again, everyone's viewpoint here

01:02:04.080 is from the viewpoint that it's being deceptive.

01:02:07.220 Wait, wait.

01:02:08.520 If God convicted you to have an abortion,

01:02:10.500 would you have an abortion no because god would never convict me of something that but hold on

01:02:14.740 but this is contrary i don't know who it's fucking the devil it's fucking satan in your

01:02:19.840 fucking brain let me finish let me finish my language who gives a fuck jesus was talking

01:02:26.860 about vipers and fucking knocking over tables and whatever who he the words jesus was saying

01:02:33.640 in his time were uh commensurate to swear words and then he could yes they were calling people

01:02:39.380 vipers they he definitely that doesn't that would get you fucking murked in the year zero or some

01:02:44.380 shit so anyway uh from back to the religious angle so christianity it emphasizes truthful

01:02:51.520 truthfulness um sincerity humility straightforward speech i wrote relationship getting to know people

01:02:59.480 hold on but actually um relationship by refusing to share your age you get to know the person less

01:03:04.640 because you know one less thing about them that's not hold on Matthew 5 37 Jesus says

01:03:09.800 let what you say be simply yes or no anything more than this comes from evil let me repeat that to

01:03:17.640 you let me ask you one quick question before I repeat that is the Bible and scripture is it God

01:03:24.200 breathed yes is anything in the Bible wrong no okay Matthew 5 37 Jesus says let what you say be

01:03:32.440 simply yes or no anything more than this comes from evil colossians 3 9 good job do not lie to

01:03:42.520 one another now you can lie by omission and you're choosing to omit your age oh gosh proverbs 11 2

01:03:50.320 when pride comes then comes disgrace but with the humble is wisdom ephesians 4 25 speak truthfully

01:03:58.680 to one another yes yeah so the big one thing a lot brian the big here is a lot of projection

01:04:05.880 matthew it's not projection it's literally scripture no but you taking it all out of

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01:04:43.560 Because you just say, do you answer every question with yes or no?

01:04:48.080 No.

01:04:48.620 Yes.

01:04:49.140 No.

01:04:49.380 If somebody asks me my age, do you say, it's not like, well.

01:04:52.700 My age is yes.

01:04:53.780 My age is no.

01:04:54.620 No.

01:04:55.540 That's bad faith.

01:04:56.580 Well, you did that.

01:04:57.640 You did that.

01:04:58.600 You're using that verse incorrectly.

01:05:00.660 And now here's the thing.

01:05:02.120 And again, also, you're using my concept incorrectly.

01:05:04.840 I'm not bad.

01:05:05.320 Do you think, let what you say be simply yes or no.

01:05:08.060 Stop.

01:05:08.720 Let what you say be simply yes or no.

01:05:10.780 That's not a calling from Jesus or the Bible to only respond to questions of yes or no.

01:05:16.180 That's the way you're stating it.

01:05:17.220 No, you fucking bird brain, low eye.

01:05:19.800 Oh, my God, you're so bad faith.

01:05:21.960 Anything more than this comes from evil.

01:05:24.120 So it's not literally yes or no

01:05:30.040 It means speak simply

01:05:31.680 I agree

01:05:32.880 Don't do all this fucking song and dance

01:05:35.720 So like if somebody asked me my age

01:05:37.640 I wouldn't give them like a whole thing

01:05:39.420 Like how you're doing

01:05:40.280 I would just be like I'm 37

01:05:42.100 That's consistent with the verse

01:05:47.160 I think we're judging you more for your denial of

01:05:51.100 I know this happens all the time

01:05:52.580 yeah okay this happens all the time and the bad thing about it is i've said over and over again

01:05:57.500 why do it but you all comport something completely different to it no you're repeating yourself and

01:06:01.780 so it never gets across in a different way yeah you said that your job you do art you cook

01:06:07.180 you bake you do do you live on a christian like uh spiritual commune no i see both sides of what

01:06:16.180 is being said here first of all i i think that what she's saying is that first of all she's

01:06:19.880 meeting people that are respecting her her choice to disclose to hold this back for a portion of

01:06:26.100 time okay which is her prerogative i don't think she's being dishonest she's saying i'm not going

01:06:30.660 to tell you my age right away okay so that do i agree with that 100 absolutely not i think you

01:06:35.480 made some valid points i personally would not want somebody to you know go to a club that's

01:06:40.680 underage or get involved in a scenario where the like ages are like it's not something is not right

01:06:45.960 but on the other hand she's saying this is a personal conviction from god and i know that in

01:06:51.940 romans 13 or 14 you know the church was fighting about different convictions and like you know paul

01:06:57.140 was saying that you can eat whatever you want there's nothing unclean it's all clean and then

01:07:00.960 somebody else would say no but i still feel like i can't eat pork you know the bible says to that

01:07:05.740 person it is sin so maybe in her personal relationship do i agree 100 with what she's

01:07:10.140 saying i think there's a lot of scenarios where this would make it very wrong yeah but i think

01:07:14.480 In her scenario, she's eventually telling them her age, but I don't think she's lying to them.

01:07:21.120 She's meeting someone and saying, hey, I'm not going to tell you my age.

01:07:22.900 It's a lie by omission.

01:07:24.500 It's a lie by omission.

01:07:25.800 She's basically just saying that instead of in the first few times of having a conversation with somebody,

01:07:31.320 she wants to focus on the things about them that they're compatible with that aren't...

01:07:35.140 You can still do that.

01:07:36.420 No, I know, but she's just saying that she waits three or four occasions before that happens.

01:07:40.660 This is why we can't, bro, how can I have said everything there, all the Bible verses, and you're still fucking siding with her?

01:07:48.280 I'm not siding with her.

01:07:49.540 I'm not trying to say I'm not siding with her.

01:07:51.500 We can't have women talking about religious shit.

01:07:54.860 Like, this is crazy, bro.

01:07:56.260 But she just gave you the verses of that contradiction.

01:07:58.980 You're lying.

01:07:59.700 You gave accurate verses.

01:08:00.760 She just gave you the verses that convict that.

01:08:02.600 What she's saying specifically does.

01:08:04.520 The Bible cannot contradict itself.

01:08:06.280 It cannot.

01:08:06.940 You're right.

01:08:07.280 She just gave you verses that say that if you are convicted by this thing, just because this other person isn't convicted doesn't mean you don't hold to.

01:08:15.200 Okay, but hold on.

01:08:16.600 You're infringing on somebody else's self-knowledge.

01:08:20.860 That's exactly what Paul talks about there as well.

01:08:23.340 Stop.

01:08:23.700 You're infringing on someone else's self-knowledge.

01:08:26.260 If you don't want to ask a man his age because you don't fucking care, that's fine.

01:08:32.520 Then that would be wrong.

01:08:33.400 You can lie by omission.

01:08:34.880 up front honestly saying, I'm not going to tell you

01:08:36.940 my age. Let me ask you a question.

01:08:38.620 Wait, can I ask you a question? A guy

01:08:40.960 asks you your age and you're really into him

01:08:42.980 and you're like, you know what, I don't want to share

01:08:44.880 and he's like, okay,

01:08:46.920 goodbye. Is it wrong for him to dip?

01:08:48.960 No. Can I just chime in real

01:08:50.980 quick? This is really not. Can I just chime in

01:08:52.940 real quick? This is ultimately

01:08:54.980 your world view.

01:08:56.960 Ultimately, you would like to live in a world

01:08:58.940 where we don't ask people

01:09:01.080 our ages. You shouldn't expect

01:09:02.900 an age. This is your world view

01:09:04.800 because you don't want to judge people now if we move toward the worldview that you want to be in

01:09:11.080 it becomes very muddied water and it becomes dangerous now ma'am I understand what you said

01:09:15.340 about the food somebody okay me choosing not to eat pork amongst other things only impacts me

01:09:21.500 now if we're going to move into a worldview where I say and this is where I agree with you because

01:09:26.540 I think there's a lot of scenarios with this her her mindset on this becomes dangerous 100% however

01:09:31.680 I feel like she's just saying it's just in her

01:09:33.920 relationships and somebody

01:09:35.460 she's telling them up front I'm not going to tell you my age

01:09:37.500 that's her prerogative they say okay

01:09:39.480 that's the idea

01:09:41.020 and also you can do that and you can feel free to do that

01:09:43.980 and then me as a man if I were

01:09:45.820 to

01:09:46.040 it's not about holding him back

01:09:48.320 it's not about being

01:09:49.560 you're promoting this world view as it should be normalized

01:09:53.080 no I'm not

01:09:54.080 you're putting us down by saying we're judgmental

01:09:57.800 we're judging people by their age

01:09:59.160 That's making us think we're wrong for judging people.

01:10:02.600 I think she's just saying people are misunderstanding.

01:10:04.900 It's not about, there's a lot that's been applied to what I'm saying.

01:10:09.740 I do have a pleasure for you.

01:10:11.020 One, two, the fact that when Paul talks about food, he literally is talking about people putting a stumbling block in front of other people.

01:10:18.040 So this does apply to other people.

01:10:20.320 If I'm going automatically giving in to the judgment, then that puts you in a position where you don't get to know someone else.

01:10:26.560 I am not going to feed it.

01:10:28.800 But you would never get into a relationship with a dude that you know was a lot.

01:10:32.500 Like, that wouldn't be a healthy age.

01:10:34.420 You can know somebody's age and not judge them then.

01:10:36.900 Yes, you can, but most people don't.

01:10:38.600 Wouldn't that be a better way to go around and say, I'm not willing to disclose?

01:10:39.760 I agree.

01:10:40.840 Yes, it would be.

01:10:41.780 But most people don't.

01:10:42.540 Okay, hold on.

01:10:42.560 Really quick.

01:10:43.060 I agree with you.

01:10:45.040 I think we're almost done with this topic.

01:10:46.720 Yes, please.

01:10:47.380 Please.

01:10:47.780 Oh, my God.

01:10:49.100 Yeah, you call me bratty, all these things that I am not.

01:10:51.880 Rude.

01:10:52.180 So, but just to be clear, you would refuse to share it in a private basis to a guy who's courting you?

01:10:59.960 It's usually initially, yes, because it's about creating the atmosphere where we get to know each other.

01:11:04.360 So what if God convicts me?

01:11:05.840 Say that I'm in a Mormon sect that believes in polygamy.

01:11:11.300 No.

01:11:12.200 No, I'm a Christian.

01:11:13.240 Hold on.

01:11:14.120 Yeah, no.

01:11:14.700 And, well, yeah, but assume I'm dating, like, a woman, and, because is it conceivable that you could enter into a courtship with a guy, and the age is important, but you still refuse to share it, but he continues dating you, and then maybe it doesn't become an issue, maybe it does become an issue down the road, the age thing?

01:11:37.480 i think it's always important to guys i think it's again i mean we're at a it's a dating podcast but

01:11:43.680 for me it's it's people in general right i guess so for me in a dating context if he considers it

01:11:50.280 very important i'm either going to make the stand of it's too early for you to know or here we are

01:11:55.700 or like when you gave me the the scenario where he was very sincere i'm going to have to make the

01:12:00.680 the i'm gonna have to pray about it and either reveal as representative for all men i'm going

01:12:05.120 to convict all men that if a woman pulls this shit you don't deal with her so like my prescription

01:12:13.440 to men would be if a woman refuses to share her age regardless of how like you know you wrap it

01:12:20.960 up in the package as you do um it's all bullshit and you should run like you should not date her

01:12:26.800 and i'm gonna prescribe and convict men that they shouldn't date a woman like that well god would

01:12:31.340 do you acknowledge do you acknowledge god would do the convicting it doesn't matter what you say

01:12:34.840 do you acknowledge that you are going to turn away some men by refusing to share your age i only

01:12:40.300 believe in one husband so yes of course well yeah but like the guy who could be your husband

01:12:44.700 you're going to say well i wouldn't date a guy who wouldn't have an issue with this but that's

01:12:50.360 like no i would never you just you've done a lot of jumping to conclusions this whole conversation

01:12:54.820 i would never but hold on that's not jumping to conclusions because in order for you to i know

01:12:58.720 Wait, in order for you to be with a man, he would have to accept this whole weird age thing because if it's a boundary for you and you're like, hey, it's too soon, and he is absent the issue he would have with your age refusal, he's the otherwise perfect man, and this causes the conflict, yeah, you're not going to end up with that guy who would otherwise be perfect for you.

01:13:24.340 Then he's not for me.

01:13:25.980 Do you see how retarded that is?

01:13:27.280 like imagine if i had no i don't see how retarded that is brian i haven't told you the entire time

01:13:32.820 but you've assumed and assaulted me the whole time that's for no reason brian this would be like if i

01:13:38.240 if i was uh a 10 out of 10 steps to me she's like brian i want to be with you she's beautiful

01:13:43.880 she's a virgin she's 140 iq she's got all the traits that i care about all big labia all the

01:13:51.720 traits like perfect in every measure yeah but um there's one thing she needs from me one thing

01:13:58.660 and it's my age and i'm like no but by the time no bitch i'm not telling you my age by the time

01:14:05.300 you got there i'm not i'd be like but brian i would do if you've already gotten to know her

01:14:09.940 so you've already you've already stepped over remember my my premises all i know she has a big

01:14:15.280 lady no you that takes like 30 no you literally said you literally said all these other things

01:14:20.100 she's perfect. So that means you've literally

01:14:22.120 done the thing that normally would stop

01:14:24.300 but you've gotten to know her.

01:14:25.980 So what I'm saying is that

01:14:28.260 it keeps us from getting to know people.

01:14:30.040 It is ridiculous.

01:14:31.600 The premise has always been the same

01:14:33.860 and everyone has tried to apply

01:14:35.680 some negative or deceitful concept to it.

01:14:37.520 Let me try to get through this.

01:14:39.360 So I was giving this example where I'm a

01:14:41.880 polygamist Mormon.

01:14:43.160 Oh, my boy.

01:14:45.680 I love it. Keep going.

01:14:48.300 Now, I was

01:14:49.840 convicted by god because this is my religion as the polygamist we don't believe in the same god

01:14:54.340 okay but nope that's retarded bro no it's not we don't believe in the same god yeah but if

01:14:59.480 you okay do i have to break every single let me get through my shit okay do i have to break

01:15:04.620 everything fucking down for you do you acknowledge that there are polygamist mormons

01:15:08.460 and to them are they convicted by what they perceive like their god they believe they're

01:15:13.880 righteous do they believe in polygamy yes or no yes whether you believe it's wrong or right is

01:15:19.420 fucking irrelevant wow much how i think your position is retarded you think polygamous

01:15:24.840 polygamous mormons are retarded i've never said that i don't believe they're retarded

01:15:28.240 you think they're incorrect you were like that's not their god their god's false whatever

01:15:32.640 okay assume i'm a polygamous mormon i'm going to withhold the fact that i've got three

01:15:39.260 fucking batty mormon chicks batty mormon wives i'm going to withhold that from a woman

01:15:44.480 Because a woman might judge me

01:15:47.000 Because I'm a polygamist

01:15:48.520 And I want to reel her into my fucking web

01:15:50.980 Like you're doing to men

01:15:51.940 You're doing it to men

01:15:53.100 It might not be your thought process

01:15:56.180 But like the actual practical application

01:15:59.100 Of what you're doing

01:15:59.760 You're withholding something important

01:16:01.220 You're getting them in your web courtship process

01:16:04.140 And you're refusing

01:16:05.560 It's so fucking true

01:16:07.720 That's literally your world view

01:16:09.820 As a polygamist Mormon

01:16:12.980 You're really negative Brian

01:16:14.600 Thank you.

01:16:15.100 You're welcome.

01:16:15.640 I'm a pessimist, and pessimism is needed to counteract whatever fucking bullshit you're on.

01:16:20.220 Oh, gosh.

01:16:20.760 So, anyways.

01:16:21.500 Brian, real quick.

01:16:22.280 Don't you think it's problematic for the men who do pursue her when she doesn't tell them her age?

01:16:28.680 Don't you see them as a problem as well?

01:16:30.400 Because I'll see that problematic.

01:16:32.300 If a man approaches her and she says, I'm not telling you my age, and he continues to go there.

01:16:37.660 Because, like, what if she's young?

01:16:39.700 If she's young, she could be young.

01:16:41.220 If he's accepting that, then he's clearly in the same frame of mind as her.

01:16:46.720 But is this like a pedo thing?

01:16:48.260 Are you trying to say it's like a pedo thing?

01:16:49.320 I can't see that as problematic in some scenarios.

01:16:52.740 If they don't give it, and they aren't, obviously, then it would be, right?

01:16:55.760 But what I'm saying is, if she's saying, I'm not going to give you my age,

01:17:00.380 and then that man says, okay, well, I'm still going to do whatever I want with you,

01:17:04.940 take you out, whatever it is, isn't he on the same page as her?

01:17:08.660 Yes, let me read this really quick.

01:17:10.060 It's below the threshold, but it's interesting.

01:17:12.020 I'm a Christian man who worships Satan on the side.

01:17:15.160 What?

01:17:15.640 I date you until marriage, but don't tell you this because you might put me in a box.

01:17:19.260 Is this okay?

01:17:20.860 I'm a Christian man who worships Satan on the side.

01:17:24.060 But he doesn't want to be put in a box, so he withholds it.

01:17:28.540 But, okay, going back to the...

01:17:29.840 What is that? How does that apply?

01:17:31.080 Yeah, cool. Going back to the polygamous woman thing.

01:17:33.400 The negative implications for somebody...

01:17:35.700 So, hold on, hold on. Stop, stop, stop.

01:17:37.620 god convicted me that people use the fact that i'm a polygamist mormon to put me into an unrealistic

01:17:45.360 category and i think any given woman needs to do the hard work of getting to know me as an

01:17:51.920 individual maybe three months down the line when she's already hooked and i've already fucked her

01:17:56.200 and she's already emotionally connected then i'll tell her that i'm a polygamist even though she

01:18:00.740 told me she's a mormon or sorry not a mormon a monogamist then i'll tell her see that seems a

01:18:06.040 bit unfair would you accept that explanation i mean it's not just no because that none of that

01:18:10.340 applies to what i'm saying you've literally done completely the thing that everyone else does which

01:18:15.340 is you've applied all this deceitfulness to the fact that i say it's about not judging others

01:18:21.420 it's like it really can it really burns you guys that it's it's not about judging it's about not

01:18:27.040 judging others it's not about me being because it takes away their decision but the interesting

01:18:33.220 If not telling someone, if not telling people my age and or not asking others their age so that we get to know each other is deceitful.

01:18:43.380 I don't know what world you all are living in.

01:18:45.820 I think that's close friends, but as dating, I think it's deceitful.

01:18:48.940 Stop, stop, stop.

01:18:49.920 That's crazy.

01:18:50.740 Why do you hide that, Tiffany?

01:18:52.760 Why do you assume that knowing someone's age would make someone incapable?

01:18:58.700 It's not incapable.

01:18:59.360 Stop.

01:18:59.720 You've got to let me finish the question before you jump in.

01:19:01.660 Okay.

01:19:02.760 And you mentioned that you said I was like negative or pessimistic.

01:19:06.100 What was it?

01:19:06.980 Pessimistic.

01:19:08.080 Don't you think you actually hold the pessimistic or I would use cynical view that you have this cynical view of other people?

01:19:16.340 Like imagine a world where people were just they didn't make these putting people in box judgments.

01:19:22.920 Then you would have, I assume, no issue telling someone your age.

01:19:25.680 Assume we lived in like a utopian world.

01:19:28.020 I would assume that God wouldn't convict me on it because I wouldn't have done it either.

01:19:31.800 Because remember, he convicted me because of what I was doing to others.

01:19:34.500 You called me pessimistic.

01:19:36.500 It's actually you who has a pretty cynical view of people because you refuse to share age because you think you get put in the box because you share age.

01:19:43.300 No, you keep applying this to me.

01:19:44.880 Again, God convicted me because I was doing it to others.

01:19:48.180 That doesn't answer my question.

01:19:49.820 Yes, it does.

01:19:50.540 Therefore, I equally applied it to myself as he would have convicted me on it.

01:19:55.000 You're also treating people as though they are incapable of considering two things at the same time?

01:19:58.980 Yet I'm sitting at a table where everyone just did the same thing.

01:20:02.420 But maybe the conviction is just stop doing it.

01:20:04.580 Before you fucking spaz out.

01:20:06.760 So you're treating people as though they're completely incapable of kind of doing two things at the same time.

01:20:14.200 Knowing your age and also getting to know you, treating you as an individual personality, not putting you in a box.

01:20:21.500 These things can happen at the same time.

01:20:24.280 So I'm a bit confused.

01:20:25.600 And I guess if knowing one detail, one factual detail about you is enough to prevent them from appreciating you as a person, that's more a problem with their character than – wouldn't you almost want to know that so you could get rid of them, I guess?

01:20:44.400 I don't know.

01:20:44.960 I feel like maybe your conviction was just to stop doing it.

01:20:48.080 My conviction was to stop judging people that way and also don't put them in a position to do it.

01:20:52.820 And it's not just that one box.

01:20:54.760 I said that at the beginning.

01:20:55.600 It's all the other boxes as well

01:20:57.700 It's the fact that we go black or white

01:20:59.480 Which doesn't exist

01:21:00.320 It's the fact that we go where you grew up

01:21:01.860 Which doesn't exist

01:21:02.680 All of those things

01:21:03.960 Instead of getting to know each other

01:21:05.360 And again, it's not about being deceitful

01:21:08.020 It's about actually giving each other the chance

01:21:10.380 To actually know each other

01:21:11.500 And not putting each other into boxes

01:21:13.780 Do you refuse to share any other things besides age

01:21:16.120 Or is it just age?

01:21:18.340 Certain things

01:21:19.340 It's not so much as a refusal

01:21:22.880 As it's that I

01:21:24.000 I either elaborate or I ask for more.

01:21:27.080 Like if someone, you know, automatically goes, oh, you're black.

01:21:29.540 I go, I'm not.

01:21:30.480 And then I go from there.

01:21:32.640 I don't usually assume that anyone is white or black.

01:21:35.900 That doesn't exist.

01:21:37.140 I ask people their ethnicities, where they're from, where their ancestors are from.

01:21:39.860 So all the things that are boxes that we use lazily, I'm convicted on.

01:21:44.800 But if someone decides that your age makes you guys incompatible, that seems like a super legitimate preference.

01:21:54.100 I agree.

01:21:55.300 I'm not fighting any of you.

01:21:56.620 All the things that you're saying, Brian, I'm not fighting that as far as like if a guy decides that all of that or if it's something that is illegal, something that's inappropriate, then I'm absolutely sharing.

01:22:08.820 But it's about me being convicted about judging people.

01:22:11.260 And I know that's hard for everyone to grasp because we like to judge people.

01:22:15.300 Can I ask you this?

01:22:16.020 What about, like, okay, so I'm sorry to bring it to this, right?

01:22:19.000 But we've got, like, the trans community.

01:22:21.360 Some of them don't believe in disclosing their sex.

01:22:24.620 What about that?

01:22:26.180 I haven't been convicted about that.

01:22:27.960 I absolutely...

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01:23:05.140 Tell another man.

01:23:06.620 I think that's deceitful.

01:23:08.600 Yeah, right.

01:23:09.040 Yeah.

01:23:09.520 So, okay, so, yeah.

01:23:10.620 He absolutely should share.

01:23:11.800 Yeah, he should share it.

01:23:12.600 Yes.

01:23:13.140 All right.

01:23:13.620 Yeah, no, it really, it's not about anything other than how we put people in boxes and don't get to know each other.

01:23:20.160 My friends, most of my friends.

01:23:21.760 Yeah, but that would stop me.

01:23:22.620 So, for example, I'm a lesbian, right?

01:23:24.740 I don't want no trans woman or no man who thinks he's a woman.

01:23:28.860 Absolutely.

01:23:29.740 So, yeah, so I need to know what you are, who you are, in order for me to conduct myself.

01:23:34.460 I can see where you're going with it because that absolutely puts you in danger.

01:23:37.840 When it comes to my convictions, I believe that God will out it.

01:23:47.000 If it's something that's not good or if it's something that's not right, then I trust him enough.

01:23:51.680 And then because I am that kind of Christian, I let him do the things.

01:23:55.700 I'm not going to fall for other people's understandings just because they feel like I should.

01:24:02.320 Can I ask you a question?

01:24:03.520 Yes.

01:24:03.780 Because I'm also a Christian, right?

01:24:04.880 Yes.

01:24:05.300 I've never heard this in my life.

01:24:07.380 Yes.

01:24:07.540 And I'm not saying this isn't from God or is from God, but let me just ask you this.

01:24:10.920 Is it possible you're misconstruing that, you know, conviction?

01:24:15.260 Maybe that conviction was for a certain thing, right?

01:24:17.740 Like, maybe it was, like, there was a certain time where you shouldn't be sharing an age, maybe with someone, like, unsafe, right?

01:24:21.860 Or, like, you know, but why, like, just age?

01:24:24.980 You know, that's such a very specific thing.

01:24:26.280 I literally said several times it's not just age.

01:24:28.740 Okay, okay.

01:24:29.500 It really is all the boxes.

01:24:30.740 I mean, and it really was about him convicting me across all the boxes of how we judge people.

01:24:35.660 because, and it's something for us,

01:24:38.460 it's something that's hard for us as humans

01:24:40.480 to grapple with because in this day and age,

01:24:42.940 I mean, literally every application you fill out

01:24:45.260 for no reason.

01:24:46.280 Wait, do you share your race?

01:24:47.360 Do you share that you're Christian?

01:24:48.700 I share that I'm Christian usually if someone asks,

01:24:51.900 but it's usually about the actions that are there first.

01:24:54.120 Do you share your ethnicity?

01:24:55.320 I share my ethnicities.

01:24:57.480 I don't go with, I don't.

01:24:58.360 Because you also didn't share your job too.

01:25:00.540 I didn't share my job because I want to make sure

01:25:02.320 that the folks that I work for are protected.

01:25:04.520 but yes i yeah no that hasn't i i'm very if i could i wish you you want basically you want

01:25:09.920 people to like get to know your soul first and then the everything else that you know combines

01:25:14.780 you as a and remember physical person you want them to get to know your and remember it's not

01:25:19.360 about me it's about it's initially about getting to know others like instead of me putting you in

01:25:25.280 a box i get to know you regardless of all those other boxes and it gives me the opportunity to

01:25:30.100 do that and also gives you the opportunity to do that my age is a part of but i feel like she's

01:25:34.180 like if I get to know that part of you and I like you then I'll continue to have a conversation with

01:25:38.360 you and then the rest falls into place of knowing the little I mean I get what you're saying I

01:25:42.340 totally get what you're saying what would be the harm if I said to you um how old are you and sorry

01:25:47.880 no harm I don't find no no no I'm just trying to think because when she's saying that we get

01:25:52.900 we're asking people for their ages and then it's a crutch to not get to know them yeah we could

01:25:57.420 argue the flip side we're asking their ages so we can get to know them 100 right so she's looking

01:26:02.120 at it from a negative point of view well but maybe she's just thinking because i've i've had

01:26:06.700 convictions in my life from god to not watch tv anymore because it's like and it was something

01:26:12.240 personal whatever so i don't have a tv but when other people tell me about tv shows i just tell

01:26:17.900 them oh i don't watch tv i don't try and convince them not to watch tv or anything like that it's a

01:26:22.800 personal connection no i know that's my god for us that's something but it's not analogous because

01:26:27.440 But her omitting, not saying, right, impacts other people.

01:26:32.360 And again, I will go back to the men who decide to engage in intercourse with her.

01:26:36.620 How do they know she's not underage?

01:26:38.420 One, I wouldn't engage in intercourse.

01:26:40.320 Two, the understanding is automatically.

01:26:43.060 If this is the worldview you are perpetuating, then there are going to be promiscuous women that may do it.

01:26:48.680 And men are going to go, this is such a.

01:26:50.660 I understand the concern there because if everybody thought the way you think, the reality is it could get really nasty.

01:26:55.420 I just don't think that anybody is going to like.

01:26:57.040 She's saying that she's a strong believer, so she abides by the Bible.

01:27:01.060 So she's saying she wouldn't engage in that way.

01:27:02.860 I hear that, but I also think it's something to re-pray about because I have had in my life.

01:27:08.680 You guys frame this as if, I mean, remember this is 10 years in and I have prayed and prayed.

01:27:15.440 And I've dealt with more people like this who think this way than anything else because everyone thinks that.

01:27:21.740 And they have their own understanding of how deceitful it is instead of listening to what I am saying.

01:27:26.640 and actually feeling convicted about the fact that we would we need we apparently we feel like

01:27:32.740 we need to know an age to decide who what the person is instead of actually stepping back and

01:27:38.580 saying i know about this for yeah i know i know oh my gosh i didn't expect that either god gives

01:27:43.580 us common sense you know what i mean he's given us an amazing brain so i think that there are times

01:27:48.600 where it can be extremely dangerous i had a situation where i was 16 and someone lied to me

01:27:53.540 on snapchat when i had snapchat and told me that they were my age they were like 13 so i was deceived

01:27:58.400 because they didn't want to share that so this is like a very scary thing especially when you're

01:28:01.780 like younger closer to like early 20s like my age like this is not a safe thing i think god has given

01:28:06.380 his common harry potter when he donated 100 six four let me ask you something if you won't answer

01:28:14.140 other people's questions why do you think they would answer yours you're judging people who tell

01:28:19.800 other people their age you are being deceitful you see that full moon right there can we see

01:28:26.460 it here no we can't no i do see it oh it's yellow i see it i thought it was a light

01:28:31.720 nice do you want me to answer that brian i don't know are we moving on i think i'm moving it on

01:28:37.720 yes good grief good grief we need someone to tip a thousand dollars so we can pop a bottle of

01:28:43.340 i've never like a personal conviction i mean like so everyone's so triggered um well we got a bunch

01:28:48.400 to get other things to get into we're going to be talking about um ethan klein cheating drama

01:28:53.700 who's been a fucking he's been a he's talked shit about me on like a dozen of his age three

01:29:00.320 podcasts we're going to talk about the ethan klein cheating on his wife gila klein stuff oh yeah

01:29:05.360 there's the love is blind stuff that's going viral right now and then there's this um guy

01:29:10.560 chubby asian guy who went to a bruno mars concert and got brutally rejected but um we're going to

01:29:16.480 get into all that first let's get everyone's relationship status uh starting with you so i'm

01:29:21.940 legally separated and i have a boyfriend so in a relationship okay um how long you so i've been

01:29:28.720 legally separated for about a year and a boyfriend two weeks after that two weeks after that i didn't

01:29:33.980 expect it i just had you did you know i didn't know him prior did you know your you didn't know

01:29:41.560 him okay so like didn't know him legally separated met him two weeks later yes okay and you've been

01:29:48.680 together for what a year ish okay exactly what's your longest relationship 15 years is that the

01:29:54.720 marriage yes that's the one that ended a year ago yes okay married once twice three times married

01:30:00.760 three times yeah so one of them was 15 years yes okay so the longest was 15 years now is that 15

01:30:07.500 years married or 15 years together? 11 years married. 11 years married. Any kids? I have two

01:30:12.980 sons. Same father? Different father. Different fathers. Let's go chronologically. First marriage,

01:30:18.720 how old were you? 18. And how long had you been dating prior to marriage? Six months.

01:30:27.020 Yeah. So I was escaping childhood essentially with that. First person to ask me, church,

01:30:32.640 youth group guy and just yeah stayed seven years out of the christian you know duty yeah and it

01:30:40.060 was horrible uh so you were sorry you were with him for how long seven years seven years seven

01:30:46.720 years married for seven years basically yeah uh let's write that down okay seven and who initiated

01:30:53.060 the divorce i did okay what was the reason oh my god so many reasons uh he was he definitely a

01:31:00.880 super controlling, marital rape.

01:31:05.280 Oh, God.

01:31:06.240 It was really bad.

01:31:08.400 Okay.

01:31:09.480 And also, he was a crazy gamer, and so he just spent his entire life gaming,

01:31:15.760 and I was like, hey.

01:31:18.220 Okay.

01:31:18.880 It was tough.

01:31:22.220 Did you have kids with him?

01:31:23.640 No.

01:31:24.420 Okay.

01:31:24.980 Second marriage, how old were you?

01:31:26.660 I guess about 24.

01:31:28.740 So, like, right after?

01:31:30.380 Yeah.

01:31:30.880 So I'm super codependent.

01:31:33.060 Was there a crossover?

01:31:35.960 A little.

01:31:36.360 Like you knew the guy?

01:31:38.380 Okay.

01:31:38.760 How long were you with the second husband?

01:31:43.300 Under two years.

01:31:45.200 Two years.

01:31:45.760 Kids?

01:31:46.760 Yes, I have a son.

01:31:47.800 One kid.

01:31:48.440 Oldest kid.

01:31:49.440 He's 16.

01:31:50.380 Okay, so two year, one.

01:31:51.840 And so you're together for how long total?

01:31:53.500 Three years?

01:31:54.800 Not even that.

01:31:56.340 How long were you dating before you got married?

01:31:59.040 Six months or so.

01:32:00.880 Yeah.

01:32:02.580 Why did you initiate the divorce?

01:32:05.720 That's a deep story.

01:32:08.660 He thrust me into environments that I didn't want to be in as a Christian girl.

01:32:17.360 And I found myself in a really tough spot, I guess you could say.

01:32:25.080 If I'm going to be totally authentic and share everything.

01:32:28.460 um he was super wealthy before I met him but when I met him he lost all that wealth so he had this

01:32:36.600 big mansion in Florida right and we were watching daytime tv as you do when you're unemployed

01:32:41.720 and Tyra Banks had an episode that had a brothel on there and this girl was talking about how she

01:32:49.960 made enough money to buy a house and I was like jokingly I said oh I could do that and then I

01:32:56.940 left off to go to work and I come back home and he had emailed them oh my gosh sent my picture and

01:33:02.860 he said they're gonna call you in a few minutes with the cat house in Vegas it was the bunny ranch

01:33:07.240 yeah and so I'm like this I'd never been with anyone outside of my husband's so and Ray is

01:33:16.280 super Christian Pentecostal and uh yeah so I was like holy shit my heart sank I felt like

01:33:24.480 very conflicted but i just went with it to be a people pleaser as i was you went with being a

01:33:32.140 brothel worker well no with the initial phone conversation that he had set up with the owner

01:33:39.420 so wait let's skip ahead a little bit did you end up becoming a sex worker i did for two months

01:33:44.920 and brothel work like you're a prostitute yeah oh have you heard of the bunny ranch

01:33:49.840 are you are you asking me or her yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm from I'm no what so I'm just

01:33:56.640 authentic and vulnerable I was super young I deeply regret it um I did learn a lot about

01:34:03.800 myself and life there which I'll take that in but wait your husband you said he was he was

01:34:09.360 Christian he was not oh he was not you were Christian though I was yeah I still am any

01:34:16.180 your second husband who you have a child with question before the whole hey i want you to

01:34:22.940 become a prostitute thing had you had the kid no it was before the kid are you sure your kid

01:34:31.040 is from your husband i'm positive they're identical did you get pregnant no during the

01:34:38.460 prostitution i get the question but no i did not were you pregnant while you were working as a

01:34:45.320 prostitute i was did you become pregnant after you started working as a product like when i say

01:34:50.940 after i mean like first week that was the whole draw like first week no i was pregnant that was

01:34:55.900 the draw oh you were already pregnant okay so you're pregnant so and then you become a little

01:35:02.800 of the story yeah go ahead okay so on the tyra show the girl was pregnant and that's what drew

01:35:09.080 people to her as a prostitute because they have like a kind of porn and you said i could do that

01:35:16.860 it's a fetish yeah and so let me just tell can i just share like 30 seconds yeah yeah you're good

01:35:23.140 so they arranged the flight they paid for the flight like 1500 bucks i get on the plane

01:35:29.020 and i'm just like terrified belly you know like what the fuck you know so

01:35:36.120 i've never really shared this publicly so it's kind of scary um so i got there and spoke with

01:35:45.100 the madam and she like went down everything that was gonna happen it was terrifying first of all

01:35:49.760 they pick you up from the airport and like this like limo that's like it says bunny ranch all

01:35:54.580 over it so i was horrified at that so anyway they show me to my room i'm sitting on my suitcase

01:35:59.980 and I'm thinking what the fuck I call my husband I say you I can't do this you have to rescue me

01:36:07.220 from this like he's like I don't have the money you're you're gonna have to I go and talk to the

01:36:12.780 madam I'm like I'm sorry to waste your money I just can't do this she's like well someone's here

01:36:16.900 to see you in 30 minutes and if you don't do this it was just like really really tough um

01:36:23.120 and this is all stuff I've told my son just he knows like I had to explain to him why I didn't

01:36:29.620 have that motherly bond with him because we never could connect and that's the reason why i left

01:36:35.560 that marriage wow that's a great way you couldn't connect with your son because why i disassociated

01:36:41.380 i i couldn't who has custody of your son my ex you have you relinquished custody

01:36:48.460 um i wouldn't say relinquished i would say i i never custody was able to emotionally connect

01:36:55.460 with him and um because until recently so we're in a really great place like he's coming for

01:37:03.420 thanksgiving and we're like healing this and yeah um that's pretty wild uh well thank you for sharing

01:37:10.760 that yeah yeah that was really big yeah and i think that's the whole reason i wanted to come here

01:37:16.760 is to just share my truth with and be authentic we appreciate that we always like people being

01:37:21.040 thank you so much um and coercive control is really it's not cool and it's a real thing and

01:37:28.400 it happens in increments so it doesn't just go from i'm forcing you to do this thing that you

01:37:33.040 don't really want to do it happens by breaking down your self-worth and like a frog in boiling

01:37:40.480 water so it doesn't just happen it's not just like overnight he just switches and he's this

01:37:44.880 this guy that's forcing you to do things you're now in this relationship and you're going deeper

01:37:50.180 and deeper and deeper and then all of a sudden you're sitting on your suitcase I'm looking back

01:37:54.280 I was a child I mean 24 how old was he yeah and I'm sorry 12 years older so yeah okay so uh and

01:38:03.160 how long were you doing this you said two months yeah how many different I guess clients did you

01:38:07.680 see in that time period I would peg it at like 15 I mean it wasn't like a ton like 15 per day

01:38:13.640 I would just, no, no, no, like all together.

01:38:16.120 Totally.

01:38:16.700 Yeah, so.

01:38:17.460 And were you living there at the ranch or whatever?

01:38:19.460 I wouldn't say living, I was staying there.

01:38:21.400 Staying there, okay.

01:38:22.280 Yeah, like I had my luggage and.

01:38:24.360 Yeah, and you were there for two months straight

01:38:26.740 or you'd like go, come back, go, come back?

01:38:29.700 I went back home to have my child and then came back.

01:38:33.920 So you went once, came back home, went back, came back.

01:38:39.620 Can I ask how long you, after you had your son, you went back?

01:38:43.640 a month and a half maybe oh my god really yeah maybe gosh huh okay so and did they get did they

01:38:52.800 get to charge extra like because it's a kink or something for dudes because you're pregnant or

01:38:57.100 something I mean I don't know how much were you making um so like people would I don't want to

01:39:04.700 say rent me but like it would be like say for three days or something and I'd get like 12 grand

01:39:09.300 gosh but wouldn't there be guys who just come for like two hours or yeah so i mean it depends on

01:39:16.020 the scenario but maybe like two thousand an hour two thousand an hour but you split that by half

01:39:23.680 but they pay two thousand to the and then you split the earnings and damn you could like you

01:39:31.140 could go on a lot of first dates with two grand you know just anyways um okay so i just don't

01:39:37.440 really get the appeal of these guys who use prostitutes but um but okay um so okay you

01:39:44.580 divorce this dude um i and then there's the third marriage super which was the 15 year yes

01:39:53.720 uh who initiated like no cheating super wholesome 1950s housewife mother and you had one kid from

01:40:02.300 that one yeah my my love of my life yes he's eight okay um who initiated the divorce i did

01:40:09.800 okay yeah what was the reason there there's a few reasons he was again a controlling man i couldn't

01:40:15.940 have my own bank card he would tiktok me when i would go out with friends like when are you

01:40:20.240 going to be home and then that was all doable right but he got weird sexually at the end

01:40:27.660 and so weird sexually how like he was hyper focused on having a threesome with another guy

01:40:33.900 and so like just being honest i know be honest no it's good that's him that's not yikes on you

01:40:41.820 no like i i played along for a while and then i'm like this is fucking weird like he would put

01:40:47.000 on the tv that wasn't female and like wait wasn't female yeah like a guy jerking off or whatever

01:40:54.880 So was he a cuckold?

01:40:55.600 What?

01:40:56.620 I think he was gay.

01:40:59.640 He's bisexual.

01:41:01.120 I think he was secretly gay.

01:41:02.600 That's fucking disgusting.

01:41:03.540 So he wanted to partake in it.

01:41:05.160 Yeah.

01:41:06.260 He wanted to fool around with a man, too.

01:41:08.400 I don't know.

01:41:09.020 He never, like, said that, but there were, like, some scenarios that we...

01:41:13.360 Yo, he was gay.

01:41:14.320 He was gay.

01:41:14.760 Yeah, and I felt like he always wanted to, like...

01:41:17.900 Did you ever peg him?

01:41:19.200 No.

01:41:19.760 Oh, that would have been the best.

01:41:20.400 No.

01:41:20.900 But he did, like...

01:41:22.200 There were dildos involved a lot.

01:41:24.100 wait when you say dildos you were dildoing him no he wanted to see me like fuck your soul sorry

01:41:31.180 no no like suck it or whatever and just as if it was like an eiffel tower kind of situation

01:41:38.380 yeah i don't know okay whatever um yeah so uh divorce him one kid just uh okay first marriage

01:41:45.860 was there alimony no i didn't seek anything second marriage alimony no uh child support

01:41:52.020 you pay him child support i'm in the throat i do send my son money i send him gifts i send him

01:41:56.880 clothes okay i go to visit him once a month they live on the other side of the country but i'm

01:42:02.800 trying for full custody honestly you're trying i was a stay-at-home mom homeschooling mom his whole

01:42:08.820 life sleeping his whole life and so i want that but i experienced severe parental alienation when

01:42:17.080 I decided to leave where he wouldn't let me take my son overnight once he didn't let me visit my

01:42:22.940 son without him present and so it's been something I've been battling yeah was it initially a court

01:42:29.780 battle I didn't have the money for a lawyer at first so I was gonna try and like fight that

01:42:34.580 on my own and that's fucking stupid and so my boss saw me enduring all this and he helped me

01:42:42.980 get a lawyer and so i'm just kind of in the throes of that right now right your boss now

01:42:49.060 got you an attorney okay yeah and uh so you are there's no formal child support no you just will

01:42:58.100 send you send money yeah you don't receive money zero okay that's but that's because the son is

01:43:03.880 he's there is with the dad right um third marriage alimony no uh child support

01:43:11.220 going towards jupiter my boy not i'm well do you receive child support no no no no what do you

01:43:19.100 mean going towards like i send him money i send my boy money he doesn't live with me oh wait

01:43:25.260 neither of your children are in your custody right he wouldn't allow me to take him the the i wanted

01:43:32.440 to the gay porn watching your youngest son yeah my youngest son your third marriage yeah the gay

01:43:38.360 guy yeah the gay dude a underscore wild underscore ben it donated 99.90 thank you cheers to all the

01:43:48.960 women on the podcast very entertaining fun to draw chair for you are built different but like

01:43:55.960 wrong i think that's me brian great as always oh thank you appreciate it guys you see that you see

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01:44:08.560 uh wild times thank you very much for the tts appreciate it okay so um do you think you have

01:44:15.200 more kids fuck no oh okay you you are in a relationship yeah so okay the two year the

01:44:26.520 the second marriage that's weird like i think it's weird any man who'd want his wife or even

01:44:34.560 just girlfriend whatever to have sex with other men that's fucking weird even if even for money

01:44:40.520 that's yeah he's basically a pimp yeah um then the second dude wanted to have devil's threesomes

01:44:48.300 with you two dudes is that a real thing that's also how how as a man i don't know how as a man

01:44:56.360 you ever could see your woman your wife being fucked by another dude that's so

01:45:03.240 it broke me honestly like yeah but the thing that broke me though was he actually one night tried

01:45:11.440 to physically find someone a stranger and so in that my soul separated from him yeah well yeah

01:45:22.740 He's not even taking him into consideration

01:45:25.620 He's just picking anyone

01:45:26.760 That's crazy

01:45:27.920 Now was he

01:45:30.800 Look you were with this guy for 15 years you said

01:45:33.320 Married for 13

01:45:34.540 Married for 11 together

01:45:36.120 Was there any hint early on of gay shit

01:45:39.620 Like early on you know what I mean

01:45:41.500 Scott thank you for the

01:45:42.560 I know like he endured some trauma as a child

01:45:44.940 Thank you Scott

01:45:45.780 But he never

01:45:47.240 No no like with you

01:45:49.560 You said towards the end of the relationship

01:45:52.080 end of marriage that's when he was trying to do like gay shit you know like putting on gay porn

01:45:56.880 or whatever yeah he like amped it up big time and wanting to do like guy guy girl threesomes with

01:46:02.600 you yeah but like early on early on was there any signs that this guy might be gay i mean he is very

01:46:11.280 slim he is very tidy he is like very like he's a musician um does he did he have a gay lisp

01:46:20.500 no but he did make a face like like that oh okay and you said you said that something

01:46:27.460 happened to him when he was younger with another man yeah does that make you worried about your

01:46:33.140 son living with him oh because i would be so this is fucked up so i must say i i will say

01:46:42.120 in all honesty he's a really good dad he he really is you don't always repeat you know the

01:46:48.140 things that happened yeah he's a really really good father a horrible husband but he's a good

01:46:52.920 dad like you could be into gay shit yeah but if he's you see what i'm saying if he's trying to

01:46:57.780 act on that in his marriage then what is stopping him right now from you know when that happened to

01:47:02.860 him as a kid and now he's just totally well i mean i would definitely be concerned it has crossed my

01:47:08.240 mind to be honest with you but i've weighed it deeply in my soul i am trying to get my boy back

01:47:13.160 good just so you know but yeah quite the journey quite the journey we're going to continue on

01:47:19.380 relationship status um single okay for how long single i've dated but my last relationship was

01:47:28.800 when i was 23 years old so you've been single for like four years kind of yeah longest relationship

01:47:34.740 that was probably the longest or well my high school relationship was three and a half years

01:47:39.460 but adult relationship that one was about six months what about you um i'm single and my last

01:47:46.060 relationship i was engaged about five months ago you were engaged yes that ended five months ago

01:47:51.220 how long were you together um around eight months is that your longest relationship or

01:47:57.540 closer i don't think of every day went for over a year so in high school yeah okay and you're is

01:48:04.040 this the first time you're engaged yes okay uh why did you guys split why did the engagement get

01:48:11.020 called off yeah so we lived like sort of long distance not that far apart in california you

01:48:15.320 know so like i didn't see him i knew him like online we'd like dm and stuff i didn't see him

01:48:20.340 up close so you know what i'm saying like everyday life right okay it was like long distance it was

01:48:26.220 not a looks thing no it wasn't a looks thing like okay when you say up close i meant like

01:48:31.260 I meant like in like close proximity you know what I mean so and everything was going pretty

01:48:36.080 well you know we have like very similar like values both like Christian um everything seemed

01:48:40.880 to be fine it was almost like too good to be true which it was so then we both moved to Chicago

01:48:45.600 because he was going to law school I worked at a law firm I moved to Chicago for him because we

01:48:49.500 were planning to get engaged around six months I moved there yeah crossed the street from him

01:48:53.040 didn't love with him I don't agree with it before marriage personally um so I get there and all of

01:48:58.600 a sudden like this happened out of the blue he became so like controlling like in a scary way

01:49:06.000 there were signs but it was like for example i was like eating one day in the car and it was just

01:49:10.860 like a butter croissant like not a big deal and he'd be like i don't think you value fertility

01:49:15.340 like i do i was like i was like what do you mean i'm like i eat very healthy we both have abs i

01:49:20.380 was super confused and he's like and i was like what do you mean like we eat a lot we're very

01:49:25.580 healthy he's like i want you to start scanning your food with an app is what he would tell me

01:49:29.060 and so when i wasn't looking he like i guess i downloaded it i didn't even know the yuka app

01:49:33.100 yeah hasn't exactly it's good but it's not that good but that's the point it's like pushy a little

01:49:37.380 peculiar a little peculiar i was like not yeah so this was like this was the beginning no yeah

01:49:43.120 that wasn't that bad i was like okay whatever but then it'd be like he would tell me i can't

01:49:48.040 stop making faces like even if you eat something so we'd go to his like family's house and he'd be

01:49:52.320 like making faces at me if they make make me cookies or something and you know what i mean

01:49:56.000 so i was like huh that's weird i'm like maybe it's just that maybe just like he's really weird

01:49:59.380 with that okay and then it'd be like i hang out with a friend my only new friend because i'm in

01:50:03.980 a new city which he introduced me to and he's like why did you not ask me i'm so hurt or i'd

01:50:08.900 want to have a business idea and he'd be like why do you hate your life like you don't want to just

01:50:13.680 be with me all the time one quick clarifying question one quick clarifying question yeah

01:50:19.180 You were eating in his car?

01:50:21.220 Yeah, he would eat too.

01:50:22.280 But it wasn't about some people don't want food.

01:50:25.800 No, he would eat all the time in the car.

01:50:28.400 Okay.

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01:50:58.320 It wasn't like making crumbs or whatever.

01:51:00.060 No, no, no.

01:51:00.560 It was about like, he would tell me like, he also doesn't want me to work certain jobs

01:51:04.580 if they're stressful because stress can harm fertility.

01:51:07.640 That's valid.

01:51:08.460 And I'm like, okay, but like, it's not that it's not valid, but he was hyper-obsessed.

01:51:13.180 So we went to a counselor to talk about this, you know.

01:51:15.540 We were like, okay, like, what's the fear behind here, right?

01:51:18.640 You went to a, when you say counselor.

01:51:20.960 Like, I go to my therapist all the time, so I brought him with.

01:51:23.200 He was down.

01:51:24.120 Is your therapist Christian?

01:51:25.320 Yeah.

01:51:26.760 Okay.

01:51:27.100 But she's like a health, like, guru, kind of.

01:51:29.200 So she understands.

01:51:29.940 Wait, you brought, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:51:31.860 You brought him to your therapist?

01:51:33.920 Yeah.

01:51:34.740 Let me guess.

01:51:35.440 The therapist sided with you?

01:51:37.640 No.

01:51:38.420 She's actually, she's a really good mediator.

01:51:40.340 She's not like that.

01:51:41.000 She's not biased.

01:51:41.480 So your therapist sided with him?

01:51:43.180 No.

01:51:43.660 This is what she said.

01:51:44.400 She just stayed the obvious.

01:51:45.440 um so we got there she said you know what's going on why are you feeling this way then she would say

01:51:50.020 okay eden like is it possible blah blah but then he was being pushy with her he was like you need

01:51:54.820 to get this app you don't want cancer and blah blah blah and she was just shocked because she's

01:51:58.500 like huh he's very obsessed so she brought to my attention later should i say it yes she thought

01:52:04.920 maybe he has like um like a mental um illness or something autism yeah which is fine i might have

01:52:11.960 autism i mean that's fine but there's something like overly obsessive right and so anyway there'd

01:52:16.900 be like times where we got engaged he engaged he proposed like right away when i got to chicago it

01:52:22.260 was like kind of shocking i was like oh i just got here i wanted to see you a little you know

01:52:26.380 more up close and then it was like it got just worse it just like it was like everything he just

01:52:33.020 wanted to control everything and he would like ask me weird questions like let's say i wanted

01:52:36.720 some independence because we hung with his family every day of the week it's like don't you want to

01:52:40.220 hang out by ourselves and he'd be like eden because he wanted no independence from his family

01:52:44.400 really he'd be like would you rather like be independent and poor or would you rather be a

01:52:49.160 slave and have everything you want oh god i was like why are you asking me this question i was

01:52:54.000 like now you said in your notes that he was abusive yes can you be precise yes so what was

01:53:00.800 he doing those specifically abusive emotionally i would tell him please like stop pushing this on

01:53:05.800 me stop like making faces stop like you know he would call me like 40 times in a row if I'd answer

01:53:10.560 and he would just like get mad at me like if I just wanted some space like he had no chill you

01:53:14.280 know so it was like emotionally it did become abusive when there was something every single

01:53:18.300 day and I just wanted to like hang out like let's just watch a movie be chill and there's always

01:53:23.200 something wrong and he's always scolding me and it wasn't like he was like swearing cussing me

01:53:27.020 out that kind of abusive um at the end he did get aggressive but it was the fact that it's like

01:53:31.600 emotionally i i can't hang out around him it gives me anxiety because i'm always doing something

01:53:36.920 wrong you know it's like he needs to control every aspect of my life i would say hey my dad wants to

01:53:42.200 help me with my car no you got to start looking to me he'd be like you should like he literally

01:53:47.780 said this it's so weird he was like you need to start looking to daddy and i was like i don't

01:53:52.500 think so i was like i don't think so watch and i was like but here's the thing he wanted me to be

01:53:58.560 he wanted me to be fully reliant on him wow but he doesn't pay for his groceries doesn't pay rent

01:54:04.660 he doesn't his family it's nepotism which is fine but you can't look have me look to you and you're

01:54:09.840 not even ready to leave and cleave like this is biblical you know these things that you listed

01:54:14.240 individually on their own i don't think are bad but some of them collectively all together it was

01:54:19.700 the whole all together it was too much to live there for a month and it's like every day there's

01:54:26.080 something new you're christian yeah yeah what's the nomination i would say more pentecostal okay

01:54:30.480 uh well the church you do you go to church yeah which uh what's the denomination of the church

01:54:36.100 you go to i would say pentecostal it's not but more non-denominational okay yeah um here's a

01:54:41.840 good question so you you're pretty active on social media you have a pretty big following

01:54:45.400 on tiktok you make kind of humorous pretty overall pretty wholesome kind of videos like

01:54:52.860 when's the hot guy at church gonna come and talk to me not like that that's pretty accurate i don't

01:55:01.300 think so i mean i'm kind of um truncating okay okay yeah but come on you'd be like

01:55:06.280 like you oh my povs so i make like story times yeah i think i saw something on tiktok and it's

01:55:13.460 like god when is the handsome man at church i don't know whatever but it was like a story time

01:55:18.960 like a whole it's your content's pretty pretty tame thank you yeah you said he was wanting you

01:55:24.720 to give up though the social media for him yeah now you guys weren't married assume though in a

01:55:30.760 marriage that yeah you were married to a guy yeah and he did want you and assume he was the bread

01:55:37.600 winner and he was taking care of everything right financially and he wanted you to give up your

01:55:41.860 social media would you this is a really tough question in all honesty that's why i was worried

01:55:47.340 about getting married is because like i believe like biblically like we should be yielding to each

01:55:51.000 other right like husbands should lay it out in their life yes i do believe in like a good kind

01:55:54.980 of submission yielding but not like okay he's like controlling me and domineering that's why i didn't

01:55:59.160 marry him but when it comes to the social media thing that was something i didn't want to give up

01:56:04.920 that i felt like maybe god put this in my life i'm reaching people people are not but hold on

01:56:09.260 yeah so assume in a marriage that you're married to a good man there's no abuse yeah there's really

01:56:14.780 no, you know, look in any relationship, there'll be moments of disagreement or, you know, whatever

01:56:20.360 there can be ups and downs, but he's a good man. He treats you well. There's no abuse.

01:56:27.120 Maybe say you have children, you don't have children. It doesn't really matter for this

01:56:31.020 example, but you have children, treats them great. Great father treats you well. There's one thing

01:56:36.400 though, that you guys kind of come at odds too. And he says, and he's the breadwinner. He's making

01:56:42.800 250k 500k a year whatever whatever the amount is that you'd be satisfied with right you're married

01:56:49.960 now and he's like hey listen um i want you to uh go private on your social media i want our

01:56:57.220 household and family to have a very very private presence in the world um and in my own discernment

01:57:04.920 i want you to stop social media do you do it

01:57:09.100 can i say what i think i think well i want the truth i think i wouldn't i think i wouldn't

01:57:17.580 marry them to get to that point like you wouldn't i always be i'm super honest and clear about

01:57:22.180 things like i almost said age sorry that was a bad but i was gonna say no shame no shame i was

01:57:27.900 gonna say um i'm super clear like hey i do social media like is this okay with you so i don't think

01:57:31.200 i would get to that point but in general like if they told me to give up something i care about

01:57:35.340 like in general kind of thing if it was like that's just an example right i would probably say

01:57:40.800 yes if that was like on their heart to be like yielding but also i feel like they would change

01:57:47.380 their heart like if we had like discussions like i do feel like the man in the relationship has

01:57:51.220 like the ultimate say in marriage that's just my personal opinion not everyone agrees with that

01:57:55.220 i agree okay not everyone agrees with that but some you do um however i would hope that would

01:58:00.500 marry someone who doesn't feel that way that would care enough about okay she's doing wholesome

01:58:04.080 content right it's helping people why would she give that up unnecessarily yeah i mean i could

01:58:09.880 imagine all kinds of situations i mean i think there's some there could be all kinds of

01:58:14.400 justifications and reasons why a husband would not assume he has like his job is not public facing

01:58:21.040 yeah and he's like hey listen um i don't want our family you our kids even if you're like well i'm

01:58:28.760 not gonna post the kids he doesn't he just doesn't he doesn't want you on social media having that

01:58:33.260 presence out there. He views it as a potential liability for the family and for the well-being

01:58:40.120 of the kids. And then further, if your time is being spent on social media, he might say, well,

01:58:45.380 for the well-being of the family and the kids, not even because there's a privacy concern or

01:58:50.280 he wants a private life. He's like, I want your attentions on the family and not on social media.

01:58:59.320 And if in his judgment he thinks that's in the best interest of the family and the children and their well-being, that seems like perfectly good justification.

01:59:11.600 But like a more specific justification might be there are some concerns, you know, with things going on with AI.

01:59:20.320 He's not going to want someone who has a public presence like that because that could have downstream effects in one, two, three, four, five years.

01:59:27.180 even if it even if that's um uh somewhat paranoid or you view this paranoid that might be his

01:59:34.240 justification so do you do it i guess at the end of the day you know i would have a talk first but

01:59:40.400 if we really couldn't come to an agreement i guess well what what does a talk look like so he he comes

01:59:45.140 to you and he's like hey listen um you know maybe he got this huge elevation in his job yeah and i

01:59:53.280 know you make you probably make some money from social media i do and he's like you know um however

01:59:58.900 much you make i'd rather you spend that time that you are spending on social media taking care of

02:00:03.640 our kids how many kids do you want um one to four one to four okay great yeah four kids you have

02:00:09.940 four kids you know over the course you know he's making 200k 300k 400k keeps upping upping upping

02:00:16.140 he hits a mill he's like you know what i don't really need your money from social media yeah and

02:00:21.640 um, I'm not, I'm no longer comfortable with this being a potential liability for what I do for

02:00:27.920 work or, you know, whatever the reason it could be super rational or it could be just, he just,

02:00:34.280 he just doesn't want you doing it. Yeah. He just, it's a vibe. He has a vibe in this scenario. It

02:00:40.620 was like, he was just testing me. Like he asked me questions all the time that were just strange,

02:00:44.540 like almost to see, like, I want to say rage bait in a sense. I'm not asking about the specific guy

02:00:48.900 you're dating i'm asking about some hypothetical guy oh hypothetical okay hypothetical guy in that

02:00:53.620 case i don't want you doing so i would hope i wouldn't when you're married right i hope i

02:00:56.720 wouldn't marry that person or i hope that they would change their mind but at the end of the day

02:00:59.560 you know because it means something to me i like to reach people so maybe let's say if it wasn't

02:01:03.940 social media okay well i would get involved with something kind of like community event i don't

02:01:07.660 know but if you could pay for like my life where i don't need it which i expect you could just stay

02:01:12.400 at home but i also but i also think it's fun and i don't know besides what if in his determination

02:01:18.260 yeah say you're why would she be with someone like that she just I just I wouldn't take someone

02:01:22.440 like that why do you assume that it's actually a wrong thing for a husband to be like hey I don't

02:01:28.200 want you like this is a very new thing yeah but 10 20 years ago it was the norm to be like hey

02:01:35.760 let's not plaster ourselves on social media and have some pretense of privacy yeah oh totally

02:01:41.920 her generation doesn't know that though yeah but it's there's there's guys there's guys for age

02:01:47.120 who don't have social media who don't have instagram and the cohort of men who don't have

02:01:51.880 that i assume is higher among a christian demographic so i don't think even though but

02:01:57.160 also a guy in his discernment could be like you know what here let's just do a test among the

02:02:01.860 women at the panel who all have to some degree some social media presence is social media a good

02:02:07.420 thing for us or bad in the brain i think it's bad that's why i'm there i think it's fucking

02:02:11.120 terrible for our attention span i think it's a terrible it's terrible in a whole bunch of ways

02:02:15.540 right um but then especially when it comes to our children and what they're exposed to that's

02:02:20.920 another layer of of how a man might be assessing it is like you know what maybe a return to how

02:02:27.940 things used to be as best as we can is going to be healthier for my wife like maybe she shouldn't

02:02:35.200 be so addicted to how many likes she gets on the video and how many views she gets on the video

02:02:39.780 and how well her videos do and how she should present herself physically on these videos and

02:02:45.520 A woman who doesn't have social media.

02:02:46.860 But if they're in a marriage that's already like that, then like she said, they're going to have conversations that lead up to that.

02:02:51.160 And if they decide as a marriage that they're going to take that out of the equation, then that's probably how it will happen.

02:02:56.340 Because she'll choose a husband who will treat her with that respect.

02:02:58.620 But initially, something might be okay.

02:03:01.520 And then down the road, it becomes untenable.

02:03:03.840 Yeah, but I think that there's a difference between a man just coming out of the blue and being like, I have made this decision for the family and I want you to go with it.

02:03:11.000 I think that the man that she would choose would bring those concerns up and they would have...

02:03:14.500 That's not what we're talking about.

02:03:15.260 I know, but they're hypotheticals that probably won't happen in her life.

02:03:18.660 It could.

02:03:19.220 So she's free, very early on in dating.

02:03:22.200 She can just disclose, and maybe they just know up front.

02:03:25.720 But she can disclose, like, hey, listen, I know some guys may have an issue with social media usage,

02:03:32.500 especially if it's a guy who, you know, he's not an influencer or creator or whatever.

02:03:37.540 But listen, this is something I really enjoy.

02:03:39.760 My content's not super provocative.

02:03:41.900 It's something I want to continue doing.

02:03:43.700 and I really like you, but I just want to check here at the beginning and just see,

02:03:49.080 hey, is this going to be something that you're going to be cool with in the long term?

02:03:53.220 And she could do something like that and vet for a guy who is in alignment there.

02:03:57.620 But when presented in the hypothetical with a situation where maybe this is a novel,

02:04:02.940 spontaneous determination the guy makes who maybe previously was okay with her doing social media,

02:04:07.880 but then down the road, he's like, you know what?

02:04:10.500 He matures a bit and he's like, you know what?

02:04:13.060 He's looked into the social media stuff and you know what?

02:04:15.660 It's really not healthy for her.

02:04:17.540 I, it could, she might not even be a creator.

02:04:19.760 I actually think there's something to being like, if your girlfriend is doom scrolling

02:04:23.880 for two, three hours a day and consuming a bunch of like dog shit, feminist content on

02:04:28.860 TikTok, I think it's within a boyfriend or husband's purview to be like, I don't like

02:04:35.540 you being exposed to all this shit.

02:04:37.620 Like, I think it's bad for you.

02:04:39.620 And that's not a man being controlling.

02:04:41.900 women like men who are protectors. I actually think when women talk about, I want a guy who's

02:04:48.640 a protector, that doesn't just mean he's like physically big and can beat up another dude in

02:04:54.220 a fight or protect you from physical threats. I actually think the bigger concern in modernity

02:04:59.760 today is not physical threats in terms of protection. It's protecting women, protecting

02:05:06.240 their mind and protecting their spirit right and so when we talk about protecting and one of the

02:05:12.700 assaults on the minds of men and women is through social media you're being fed propaganda you're

02:05:20.060 engaging in algorithms that are mostly like pushing you towards like dog shit harmful content

02:05:25.840 and it's even if it's like just a bunch of puppy videos you're kind of rewiring your brain to like

02:05:30.800 fuck your attention span so there's all kinds of negative ramifications to social media

02:05:36.260 I personally would guide if I was in a relationship with a girl or certainly I mean I don't want to

02:05:40.960 get married that's another conversation if I was in a relationship with a woman and we had kids

02:05:45.840 and she I would hope she doesn't have the habit to begin with of being a doom scroller

02:05:50.660 and just like boom boom boom like fucking liberal bullshit woke nonsense on tiktok

02:05:56.340 at one after the other, I would tell her, I'm like, I care about you. I view this as harmful.

02:06:04.400 Just delete the apps, delete them. It's bad for you. Yeah. I just feel like your mentality is,

02:06:11.620 and it's, it's fine, but I feel like you just want things to have, like, if you have a conviction in

02:06:16.940 your head, then you want her to just listen to you wholeheartedly. And I think most women want

02:06:21.460 to like you said lean on their men and trust that emotionally they can guide them but I think like

02:06:27.400 I'm saying sometimes with emotional guidance it's not about I have had this conviction listen to me

02:06:32.400 it is explaining so that that party understands and completely agrees with you and I think that

02:06:37.340 there's just more of that happening in healthy marriages rather than someone coming and saying

02:06:41.680 this is my conviction listen to me now yeah and for Eden I don't think it's about social media

02:06:46.320 per se i think you know it's true men should be our protectors in so many ways and including

02:06:51.800 protecting what's dear to our heart and things that are important to us i know social media is

02:06:55.940 not dear to her heart she just feels called to it right now because she feels like she's impacting

02:06:59.540 a lot of people in a positive sense yeah but i also know even enough to know that that if a man

02:07:05.000 had a valid reason like say hey i don't think you do social media i know you would say i i won't

02:07:10.880 i'm just gonna be honest i don't feel like it's even i didn't join for myself i only had like

02:07:15.440 100 followers i don't really go on tiktok i actually don't agree with doom scrolling i tell

02:07:19.860 a lot of people like it's it's very bad for your brain personally if they want to hear i will tell

02:07:23.080 them that i don't go on there to consume i just go on to create and the reason is because when i

02:07:28.220 first became a christian i felt like i should make a video so i just started doing it and now

02:07:33.640 i'm able there's like thousands of you know people that dm me and i've talked so many people out of

02:07:38.380 i don't know what we're allowed to say but suicide and stuff like we get that we understand that

02:07:42.620 there are some benefits to social media, but I'm, it's not really necessarily debate here. The,

02:07:47.600 the situation arises, assuming you're a Christian when you're in a marriage with a Christian husband

02:07:54.760 and, uh, he's treating you well, there's no abuse, none of this. Um, I guess just point blank.

02:08:02.640 If he's just like, Hey, listen, I want you to stop the social media stuff. Yes or no. Do you

02:08:07.320 stop if that's his conviction i probably would go with it what what do you mean probably i mean

02:08:13.000 it's like it should be like a hundred percent yes i would i it's sad to think about right now

02:08:19.360 because how much i make money but i mean how much would you argue and nag him about it um i would

02:08:24.760 hope not because i don't there's a lot of proverbs about nagging wife so i don't try to be a nagging

02:08:28.960 wife but like would you i would have a conversation i wouldn't just be like but some some women some

02:08:33.940 wives will have a perpetual continuous conversation in the hopes of through just brutal uh what's the

02:08:43.540 term in warfare where it's um attrition through attrition you will get your husband to like bend

02:08:50.500 to your will by just like keeping at it and i think look it's okay to have an initial conversation

02:08:56.160 but if he's like heard you out still want you to delete it and that that happens after even a 30

02:09:03.600 minute conversation i really think the pushback ends there and you're like yeah i guess i'm gonna

02:09:09.320 do it it's not that i'm happy about it but then do you resent him i wouldn't resent him if he didn't

02:09:14.020 give you a good reason i'm sure you would does he i don't think he necessarily even needs a reason

02:09:17.860 well but if she doesn't feel like there's a good reason then there's a there could whether it's

02:09:21.900 valid or not i could feel resentment however i would probably i go to therapy i'm talking about

02:09:26.460 therapists and it's like you know i just work through it i guess one of those things where

02:09:29.460 it's like life is hard sometimes the right thing is not easy so if that's the right thing but also

02:09:34.000 again it's not really about social media like that's how i'm reaching people on a wide scale

02:09:38.300 making money but i also am a radio host so if i didn't do that go back to reaching people through

02:09:42.720 radio and then radio he doesn't want you working at all he wants you in home i probably wouldn't

02:09:47.580 marry that person because i like to have something to do with my time whether you'd have four

02:09:51.320 children yes of course but i mean like seasons that you probably think a lot of christian men

02:09:57.060 you want to marry a christian man i assume yeah you don't want to date like an atheist no a muslim

02:10:01.940 not even like a practical atheist like i'm a christian but they don't really no right none of

02:10:06.380 so do you think it's likely that a christian man now there's like some feminist christian men or

02:10:11.380 whatever i assume a christian man yeah especially if he's a higher earner i don't know if you

02:10:15.940 prioritize for that he's going to want a stay-at-home wife who who views family and children

02:10:25.880 as superseding her secular modern um career ambitions i hear you but also in proverbs 31

02:10:35.760 like the wife also had something that she was doing with her hands right she was working

02:10:39.380 right like she was like so what i'm saying is you can do both you don't have to just give up every

02:10:44.140 dream but there are seasons sometimes there are seasons there are seasons well hold on let's dive

02:10:48.080 into that really quick yeah so i understand what you're saying yes yes christianity or the church

02:10:51.760 it doesn't forbid women from working right right um but it does emphasize that uh a mother's primary

02:10:58.560 duty is the home oh of course i never said raising children yeah so um but why does that mean though

02:11:05.220 that you can't have any aspirations you can't have any dreams well your primary aspirations should be

02:11:10.300 family and children but that's your primary like you could be a good parent i don't plan i probably

02:11:14.960 will lean more towards like two kids right so let's say i have two kids they're growing up i'm

02:11:18.600 I already go on through the postpartum, you know, section of life, all that.

02:11:22.500 Why can't I have a side business?

02:11:23.980 Like, that's okay.

02:11:24.660 And I'm sure me and my husband are fine with that.

02:11:26.220 How about this, though?

02:11:27.340 Yeah.

02:11:27.620 If your husband believes that the family and the emotional well-being of the,

02:11:32.280 doesn't even, just the well-being period of the children,

02:11:34.980 requires his wife to be present full-time in the household

02:11:39.720 and not be distracted by, what's the right here, trifles, so to speak.

02:11:46.200 uh a christian wife would be called to defer to the leadership of his husband of excuse me her

02:11:53.660 husband i don't feel that a very like loving godly man would want you to like yes your primary yes

02:12:02.780 just to be clear yes it's ungodly for a christian man to want his wife to stay at home i wasn't

02:12:09.440 sorry okay please let me finish please let me finish what i'm saying is um i don't mind like

02:12:14.500 again like i said i will submit to my future husband however it doesn't sound like it

02:12:19.240 just doesn't sound like her future husband i'm just saying i believe that a future husband who

02:12:25.620 understands me the person i will marry will not just be like you can't have any things that you

02:12:30.980 do on the side because you could still focus and you know what sometimes helps you having a break

02:12:34.420 right like let's say they want to watch the kids i get to do something i like to do for example

02:12:38.900 i could know yeah past time i could be i don't know like seems for something random you know

02:12:43.620 i've been getting into i don't know knitting or stuff like that so it's like it doesn't have to

02:12:47.780 be black and white like that you know what i mean like sometimes hope you ever heard that

02:12:51.340 proverb it's hope deferred he doesn't want you working no but that doesn't have to work it's a

02:12:55.220 hobby no but you can the knitting thing i that could be a hobby you can make money too i mean

02:13:00.380 okay but he doesn't want you in the like in any capacity in the market he doesn't want you focused

02:13:07.640 on making money period but what if it's a hobby why does it have to why is like money when you

02:13:12.560 You say hobby, so the hobby could be your radio or your social media.

02:13:15.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:13:16.240 So, like, the radio doesn't pay crazy amounts, right?

02:13:18.860 So, that's almost like a hobby.

02:13:19.740 But he doesn't want you.

02:13:21.020 He wants your attention, your full attention to the children and households.

02:13:25.880 He wants you barefoot and pregnant in the kids' house.

02:13:28.420 But it's no different than working or surfing or biking or hiking.

02:13:31.960 It's actually not just about full attention because you said he doesn't want you making money.

02:13:35.320 So, is it about full attention or money?

02:13:36.840 No, he doesn't want you working, period.

02:13:39.180 Okay, okay.

02:13:39.760 But what if I'm not working?

02:13:41.640 She's doing it for mom.

02:13:42.460 But I'm doing it from home, and it's something I like.

02:13:44.640 Right?

02:13:45.000 It depends what it is.

02:13:46.200 That could give me hope in life.

02:13:47.160 It's a hobby.

02:13:47.860 This is something I like to do.

02:13:49.020 You know?

02:13:49.380 Money or not.

02:13:50.100 Money or not.

02:13:50.600 It could be whatever.

02:13:51.560 Reaching people, volunteering at my church.

02:13:53.060 I do that right now.

02:13:54.120 Volunteer at the youth group.

02:13:54.500 Maybe he's fine with the volunteering, but we have to be specific here.

02:13:58.020 Are you going back to social media?

02:14:00.600 We were talking about this.

02:14:01.820 He already said no.

02:14:02.340 Well, if he cuts out from social media, then she would reach out to people through.

02:14:06.180 What I'm saying is, I would want to do something for my own well-being.

02:14:11.440 Your children are your well-being.

02:14:15.100 Yes, but you can still do fine things.

02:14:17.780 Go to Pilates.

02:14:19.860 Go to Pilates.

02:14:20.720 That's also a hobby.

02:14:21.440 Go on hikes.

02:14:22.020 That's a hobby too.

02:14:23.040 Yeah, that stuff is fine.

02:14:23.960 Do you hear what I'm saying?

02:14:24.580 That stuff is fine.

02:14:25.240 What I'm saying is it doesn't have to be money-making, but it's something I like to do.

02:14:28.620 Give me an example then, like an actual example for you.

02:14:31.440 An actual example would be –

02:14:32.460 Become a Pilates teacher.

02:14:34.300 Pilates teacher.

02:14:35.200 I'm not really into Pilates personally, but I will give another example.

02:14:38.680 For example, I help at my youth group right now.

02:14:40.860 right i love working with the teens i love working with the middle school so fun so i would want to

02:14:45.000 continue that i don't want to feel like yes i could be a good mom but also okay once a wednesday

02:14:49.340 assuming sure i think most husbands will probably be okay with that but there could be some

02:14:54.480 determination where he's like you know what we have three four kids right now you don't have

02:14:59.600 two hours to get away actually then good nanny but i was right he's making good nanny

02:15:03.320 this is such a weird hypothetical it's not a weird hypothetical it's it's not weird but it

02:15:10.080 wouldn't be my future husband you know what i'm saying wait wait but see this is what's interesting

02:15:13.560 about christian women so we're talking about submission right well and it's this way it's

02:15:19.580 this sort of cope where it's not that hold on it's this cope where christian women say

02:15:23.060 well i am submissive and i would be submissive i just wouldn't the the man who i'm with wouldn't

02:15:28.440 do that or yeah i just wouldn't pick a guy like that so just to be clear submission is hide that

02:15:34.520 tiffany if submission is uh a wife only follows her husband's leadership when she already agrees

02:15:41.840 with him what is she actually submitting to then i told you i'd submit to him no matter what but

02:15:46.760 what i'm sure he wants me to be already but submission it means you will that you are not

02:15:51.860 always going to get your way i if you're submitting i already agree to that but but i already have

02:15:56.340 life happy wife no no no that's retarded i already said at the end of the day i will do i will honor

02:16:02.860 him right if i choose to marry this person i choose to marry this person i will honor what

02:16:07.000 they say however i would hope that the person i do marry would care enough about my heart my

02:16:12.000 well-being that i want to do something that makes me happy why is that it's not sin and

02:16:15.220 this is this is exactly what she would do if she was actually having the conversation with her

02:16:19.420 husband oh but it makes me happy to like post videos on social media i just said we're not

02:16:24.960 talking about social media we're talking about social media no no we're not we're talking about

02:16:28.940 any hobby like in a marriage you know i think it's important hobbies are fine but it's like

02:16:32.820 what is it i just said this is like a segue for this is a segue for you to get in be like

02:16:38.640 well the thing that makes me happy is to do social media which is the thing you don't want

02:16:42.480 me to do right now no when you're married no but i'm saying right now but that can change well

02:16:46.360 you're okay you're not in a relationship and you're not married right you can do what you want

02:16:49.920 basically yeah of course but i'm saying if i was married and they wanted me to give it up

02:16:53.020 that's fine i might not be excited about it but i could find something else what i don't want to

02:16:57.120 feel is that i'm stuck in that like i can't have any fun you know i'm saying like everyone has to

02:17:03.220 have a hobby she's also young and she's never been in a scenario no no this is like a goalpost

02:17:09.240 shift we're not talking about this isn't about uh oh if you're married to a christian man you're

02:17:14.940 not allowed to have hobbies it's a goalpost shift from the the uh the christian husband not wanting

02:17:20.300 you to do social media i said yes so okay that's fine but now we're i don't know why we're going

02:17:25.280 like I don't disagree like it's okay for you to have hobbies okay so we agree okay well then I

02:17:30.080 don't know you could be asking me in a scenario where in a specific scenario where there's a

02:17:34.620 specific thing you're doing that your husband in his discernment disagrees with right part of being

02:17:42.440 a wife in a Christian traditional marriage is you submit and you defer to his judgment

02:17:49.000 so no i if he's like cool with you having a hobby great but if he's like yeah hey don't want you to

02:17:55.780 do that when we're talking about submission and you say well i just you know i you know i i wouldn't

02:18:01.400 marry a guy who's like that well you don't really know until you perhaps true cross that bridge i

02:18:06.240 almost did and it's super like it's easy to cooperate when someone's makes the decision

02:18:11.440 that you would have made yourself right but what happens when people disagree then i like i said

02:18:17.700 the first time 10 times i i ultimately submit to that but what i'm saying though is that i agree

02:18:24.220 if i just okay then we agree i hope we don't have a hobby thank you like would you if you're married

02:18:28.500 to someone just question like would you want them to have a hobby and feel happy and like they're

02:18:32.640 doing something in life like kids are obviously what if your wife told you to stop your podcast

02:18:36.960 like what if no well i guess i guess it's different because he's the guy but what i'm

02:18:41.900 saying is like let's say not her call to make but it's men lead men lead relationships well they

02:18:46.760 lead in your relationship well look other people can choose to not enter into relationships so i

02:18:51.700 agree with you um unless you're so christianity is like operates on an objective uh operates on

02:18:59.660 biblical instruction right okay so there there is no argument in from a christian perspective

02:19:05.520 right there is no there is no um christian marriage where the man can submit the man should

02:19:11.740 submit to the woman well you both yield to each other though like you know what i mean like it's

02:19:15.420 not just like you're my leader like it's not like that you know what i'm saying the bible says the

02:19:20.140 husband is like lays down his life like christ laid down his life for the church that's true

02:19:24.380 self-sacrifice right but it's not hard to submit to a man that has a loving love like a good husband

02:19:30.800 like you said but self-sacrificing the christian tradition teaches that the man is the head of the

02:19:35.540 household right we agree how does it mean you're like a dictator though it means you're the leader

02:19:40.060 and you have final say leader doesn't mean dictator though it doesn't mean dictator yeah

02:19:45.360 I just want to make that distinction.

02:19:47.000 But if it.

02:19:47.640 Because it's giving a little dictator.

02:19:49.480 Because you're making it sound like, well, what if he doesn't want you to have hobbies?

02:19:53.420 Well, I think a good husband would want you to have a hobby.

02:19:56.500 I know you're saying a hypothetical, but a good husband would want you to, like, not be just like kids, kids, kids, kids, kids.

02:20:02.880 I don't have an objection to the woman having a hobby.

02:20:07.040 Okay.

02:20:07.240 But there could conceivably be, like, for example.

02:20:09.640 A certain hobby?

02:20:10.120 I could think even outside, like, if my girlfriend wanted to start taking private jiu-jitsu lessons with a man, I would have issues with that.

02:20:19.960 I understand that.

02:20:20.400 That's a hobby, right?

02:20:21.640 But she's going to be wrestling around with some dude.

02:20:25.060 Tom Brady got cucked.

02:20:27.820 Marriage over.

02:20:28.860 Yeah, Tom Brady, his wife, was doing private jiu-jitsu lessons with some dude.

02:20:32.720 She ends up cheating on him.

02:20:33.740 But even absent Tom Brady example, I would feel uncomfortable with my wife like doing that sort of thing.

02:20:40.540 I wouldn't want her doing jujitsu with a man.

02:20:43.240 What if she had a female instructor?

02:20:45.840 That makes it a bit better, I guess.

02:20:48.400 But I would have some other like jujitsu can be pretty rough and she might get injured.

02:20:53.300 And I'm like, eh, don't think so.

02:20:55.100 Go for a swim.

02:20:56.080 Go play tennis.

02:20:56.520 Does she have to have a male masseuse?

02:20:57.840 I mean a female masseuse?

02:21:00.860 Yeah, I prefer.

02:21:01.660 OB-GYN must be.

02:21:03.740 i prefer to see a all ladies all women masseuse i mean okay so my question is you keep asking me

02:21:09.720 these questions but do you disagree with anything i'm saying because i i'm not not submissive i'm

02:21:13.560 just saying i hope that i'd marry someone with my good judgment someone who cares about my

02:21:17.300 aspirations as well but you do acknowledge that there will be disagreements in your marriage

02:21:21.460 right right of course i do i do so you can't say that do this sort of preempting where it's like

02:21:27.380 well whoever i marry is gonna 100 agree with me oh no not 100 agree with me i'm just in the

02:21:31.900 instances where there are disagreements yeah yeah as a christian you should defer to your

02:21:37.480 husband's leadership at the end of the day yes but i'm of course and should we ask you brian why

02:21:42.320 you don't want to get married yeah that's a good question well one i'm not a christian uh though i

02:21:47.280 have pro-christian sentiment okay uh maybe one day i'll be a christian not quite there yet i say i

02:21:53.160 say i'm not a christian yet i've been praying for you oh i do i pray for him all the time um but uh

02:21:58.980 why don't I want to get married? There's a whole bunch of reasons. Maybe we can get into it later,

02:22:03.160 but just financially it, it's, it's, it's a huge liability for men and I'm just not going to do it.

02:22:11.160 There's no, there's no benefits. Like we all are self-serving. We all do things in our own

02:22:16.700 self-interest. And look, I'm a businessman. Marriage is a contract. Marriage has financial

02:22:24.560 obligations financial penalties financial liabilities what if she makes more money than

02:22:29.860 you then we can get married really so why would you then we can get married why is that i'm a

02:22:37.740 gold digger oh mary she's a billionaire step right up so marriage is purely a financial

02:22:45.120 i wasn't ready for that he was hot shit if she's rich we can get married do you still have the

02:22:53.120 video of your last girlfriend the bowing video i have it oh god christian sentiments then how

02:23:00.000 can you expect her how can you expect to not give her what you know christianity expects of people

02:23:06.440 but you expect her probably to act in wifely ways it's in the cup it's a sticker okay good

02:23:12.620 so um when i say i have pro-christian sentiment um that that doesn't necessarily mean that in

02:23:21.220 terms of my personal relationships i operate from a christian perspective when i say i have

02:23:26.820 pro-christian sentiment i believe that um the west is founded on a christian tradition yeah

02:23:33.560 and that christianity is somewhat is foundational to uh western civilization and i think it's like

02:23:43.500 for example i i think the moral lessons oh boy i guess this is where i might get in trouble

02:23:50.500 i think the there's a lot of wisdom in the bible and in christianity and in terms of if we were

02:23:57.400 to structure a society there should be some foundational basis for running that society

02:24:03.400 i agree on christian morality yeah but i'm there's there's the supernatural claims of christianity

02:24:10.960 so like christianity in terms of the doctrines of christianity that's dope love all that shit

02:24:17.280 I shouldn't say shit, I guess. Love all that stuff. Love all that script. Love all that stuff.

02:24:21.600 It's good. No, it's good. And it's a good way to operate on an individual level and a societal

02:24:26.860 level. However, my hang up, I guess my, my, uh, the supernatural claims about, about God,

02:24:36.580 I don't have the belief there. And so you can't be a Christian if you don't have the actual belief,

02:24:44.160 maybe one day it will come to me but i i i don't quite intellectually grasp the

02:24:54.400 concept of the metaphysical and the supernatural and so i would honest christians shouldn't lie

02:25:02.660 therefore i would not lie and be like oh i do believe in god even though i don't if that makes

02:25:06.680 sense but um so yeah i guess i operate from a more you like how christianity has shaped western

02:25:11.900 culture and you don't want to live in like you'd rather live in a society like that than

02:25:16.420 a different one like you don't like utilitarianistic utilitarianistic views like

02:25:22.020 that like society just kind of like there has to be some kind of like i'd be fine with christian

02:25:26.340 nationalism yeah let's just say okay i'd be fine with that okay which goes nationalism again like

02:25:31.300 uh basically like not having if if the government had like major influence from christian theology

02:25:38.240 or it was like um we we governed ourselves by very like there's no separation of church and

02:25:45.780 state i guess we're not a christian nation though we are a melting pot for example i'm staying in

02:25:50.700 beverly hills and my neighborhood is predominantly jewish you know we have all sorts of denominations

02:25:55.860 of religion here so it's not really we were founded on christian ideals sure but it's not

02:26:00.680 really up to the government to decide how others uh structure their lives or their marriages or

02:26:05.640 things like that and what he's saying is he'd be okay with that yeah yeah if it came to that

02:26:10.500 yeah handmaid's tale i wouldn't object to it um well it wouldn't be wait hold on yeah it doesn't

02:26:15.220 wait hold on under under christian like if there was christian leadership or christian nationalism

02:26:20.680 it wouldn't be handmaid's no by no means i don't think it probably things would well um okay but

02:26:28.240 i'm trying to recall what your initial question was oh so yeah i guess um i don't know in terms

02:26:34.660 my own relationships i wouldn't be able to like cite to the bible in my own relationship be like

02:26:39.940 this is how you should act unless she was a christian dating well no but there's a difference

02:26:45.160 that that's me exploring her worldview and her like if you're a christian then i can come into

02:26:53.480 your world like for example that goes the easiest way i can explain it is like i eat meat i'm not a

02:26:59.400 vegan but if somebody tells me they're vegan and i see them eating meat again don't care if people

02:27:04.080 eat meat but i'd be like why are you eating meat yeah as a vegan so in that same way you know

02:27:09.780 dorya sunders core monk donated 100 dollars chair three is the perfect reason for men not to get

02:27:16.420 married even this christian girl is functionally indistinguishable from a secular one wants to

02:27:22.640 work won't submit unless she already agrees etc may i say something okay i literally said i would

02:27:29.360 are you not listening to the conversation no they're not it's okay yeah we are so confused

02:27:33.600 i'll just say this i do think no who is this person who are you you have a blessed day sir

02:27:43.840 you find a submissive wife like myself she's interested she wants your age did you hear that

02:27:50.760 i'm not interested she wants your age darius how tall are you how much money do you i'm 5 11 i'm

02:27:58.100 too tall for you probably all right what are your christian values here let's uh and what

02:28:02.580 what brian is doing when he's challenging especially as christians we welcome that

02:28:06.920 like him coming at us him him come him asking me the questions that he asked me i'm not offended

02:28:11.040 by that at all that's fine like sometimes the way he said it but other than that i don't care

02:28:15.680 yeah can i finish my last thought about the engagement thing sure okay so basically it was

02:28:19.900 going terrible the last straw was the end of the relationship i was really feeling like i don't

02:28:24.900 like this is a fit right in our in our alignment for our future um and basically at the end of the

02:28:31.000 day when we had this conversation he said you know you either take my advice 100 point blank

02:28:35.400 or you know you don't get my help with anything in life oh and i was like oh okay and then i looked

02:28:41.780 down at my phone grabs my hand grabs my phone aggressively and i was like i think we're good

02:28:47.180 i think this is a sign you know i've only lived here for like a month there's been other some

02:28:51.640 aggressiveness like i think we're good so that was the end of that relationship and now we're

02:28:55.580 healing got it uh viewers viewers uh we're gonna finish up the relationship status um and then

02:29:02.740 we're gonna get into like all the reacts the ethan klein stuff the love is blind stuff and the

02:29:07.040 bruno mars sim projection stuff uh we'll continue with the the relationship stuff really quick i

02:29:13.120 saw a tiktok of yours final thing for your relationship yes tell me tell me uh a tiktok

02:29:17.860 let me see here oh i was excited for this i told my mom i'm like i told my parents my mom and

02:29:24.180 stepdad i'm like i think they pulled people's tiktok sometimes so i was awaiting this damn i

02:29:30.100 wrote i never pulled up my instagram before hold on let me scroll back up to the top

02:29:33.820 but do i come across not submissive i feel like i'm not sorry no don't anymore

02:29:40.240 come across like you have your own thoughts yes okay um question how long have you been

02:29:47.600 abstinent slash celibate oh that's a good question since i was 17 really i'm 23 so even your last

02:29:55.680 boyfriends we never had sex no and you you're 23 and you've been abstinent since 17 so as soon as

02:30:02.140 i decided six years yeah as soon i decided to follow the lord i was trying to follow the bible

02:30:06.740 to the best of my ability so i was like you know what i agree with having one partner for life

02:30:10.500 and i made that mistake before being a full christian and devoting myself so guess what i

02:30:16.180 just had that one person i did that with never did again repented okay so so that's true you

02:30:21.880 so if you watch that tiktok i said re-waiting for marriage i'm not just yeah yeah i'm not

02:30:26.100 so re-waiting yeah because you said it was uh posted april 2025 yes about waiting for marriage

02:30:31.900 to have sex and in the bio it said the uh re-waiting for sure yes heart hashtag abstinence

02:30:38.340 hashtag christian well you really do your research i like it i do i do look at people's social media

02:30:44.220 and stuff yeah what are your thoughts uh on that yeah well you're a christian it comports with

02:30:49.440 waiting until that's what christians are called to do to yeah uh wait until marriage to have sex

02:30:54.600 so but i was actually a bit surprised i would have figured you hadn't been abstinent quite that

02:30:59.340 long why uh well i guess since this was from april 11th 2025 uh i don't know just an assumption

02:31:07.320 though i guess yes a judgment huh no i'm just kidding because like april 11 yeah i'm just

02:31:12.620 kidding that's fine you got to know you got to know me also i'm 23 that's my that's my age i'm

02:31:17.260 23 23 re-waiting re-waiting for sure yes okay so uh abstinence in 17 all right wow that's pretty

02:31:27.080 good congrats thanks and you are 100% waiting until marriage 100% 100% so like let's say

02:31:31.900 someone's like i'm not gonna date you or i'm not gonna marry you unless it's like i'll just be like

02:31:35.420 nah yeah yeah because sometimes like what i've heard from some christian women or just some

02:31:40.280 women in general they're like well i want to wait a bit but if it's like the guy you know 100 percent

02:31:45.440 you're gonna marry how do you know if you're not married i thought i was gonna get married sure we

02:31:48.480 didn't true uh good times okay relationship status starting with you i am courting but it's very

02:31:56.140 early like it's like one or two so there is a guy in the picture it's one or two weeks yeah one guy

02:32:00.400 Yeah.

02:32:01.020 Does he know your age?

02:32:02.540 No.

02:32:03.460 Look, Brian, I'm consistently.

02:32:06.040 Longest relationship?

02:32:07.780 Longest?

02:32:08.400 Yeah.

02:32:10.320 Oh.

02:32:11.280 In your entire life?

02:32:13.000 Eight years.

02:32:14.120 Eight years.

02:32:15.040 Okay.

02:32:15.460 Eight years?

02:32:16.340 Yeah.

02:32:17.720 Did he know your age?

02:32:19.540 This was before I was a Christian.

02:32:21.000 It was before the conviction.

02:32:22.960 Before I was a Christian even, before I got saved.

02:32:25.820 Yes.

02:32:26.200 And this was with a woman.

02:32:29.060 Yeah.

02:32:29.500 you were a lesbian at the time bisexual i suppose i was a lesbian i was yeah at the time maybe uh

02:32:36.380 the plot no poor envy no don't bring her into it before i've done enough damage with envy you're

02:32:43.420 my favorite lesbian yeah it'd be sweet as pie no don't get her involved you need to know your age

02:32:48.380 first i know she and that i understand that too uh relationship status i am married uh ever married

02:32:56.220 no unfortunately no uh you're married i am and you were married once before i was yeah

02:33:02.100 once twice i've been married once before so married two times my second marriage and you're

02:33:06.480 still married how long you've been married this time so we've been married for almost eight years

02:33:09.960 january would be eight years together for how long uh not even quite eight and a half i don't

02:33:15.180 recommend that for everyone the best stepdad ever yeah all right and then uh your previous marriage

02:33:21.620 How long was that?

02:33:22.560 So I was married.

02:33:23.520 Well, we were together for 10 years solid, but we didn't get divorced.

02:33:27.740 I was technically with him for 14 years, married to him for 14 years.

02:33:31.460 But we did separate a couple of times.

02:33:33.020 And then your daughter here, is that from your first marriage?

02:33:37.020 Yeah, that's from my first marriage.

02:33:38.780 I'm not eight and a half.

02:33:40.140 Okay.

02:33:41.560 Yes.

02:33:42.340 Age again.

02:33:43.440 Age.

02:33:43.560 I'll never live it down.

02:33:44.920 Social constructs.

02:33:46.980 Now, did he or does he pay you alimony?

02:33:52.240 He used to.

02:33:54.440 Well, how long have you guys been separated?

02:33:55.880 Probably a while.

02:33:56.220 So we've been divorced for 10 years, easily.

02:34:00.340 So initially he paid you alimony?

02:34:02.240 He did initially.

02:34:03.100 And then child support?

02:34:04.240 Did he pay you child support?

02:34:05.080 Initially he paid me alimony.

02:34:06.360 Obviously I'm remarried now.

02:34:07.900 And he did pay me child support initially, yes.

02:34:10.440 Initially, okay.

02:34:11.160 And was this court ordered?

02:34:12.940 It was court ordered.

02:34:14.140 We both had an agreement.

02:34:15.080 He agreed to a certain amount.

02:34:17.020 And he was giving me money.

02:34:19.500 He didn't always give the amount that he agreed to court ordered, but I didn't pursue anything on it.

02:34:23.360 And can I ask how much was the alimony payments?

02:34:26.340 So initially I have, I have four children with this gentleman.

02:34:30.300 Yeah.

02:34:30.800 My previous marriage.

02:34:32.000 And, um, so initially he was giving me, forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think it was about 4,000 or 3,600 or something a month.

02:34:40.340 Okay.

02:34:41.380 For four.

02:34:43.000 Okay.

02:34:43.520 Gotcha.

02:34:44.020 And then how much was the alimony?

02:34:46.800 Uh, initially I don't, I, I could be wrong.

02:34:49.500 wrong it's not in front of me but maybe like 700 or something it wasn't like a tremendous man gotcha

02:34:53.540 hold on i gotta step away for just one moment but if you guys want to talk about alimony and

02:34:57.700 man i know that i have watching i would have any man that i marry sign a prenup um i personally

02:35:11.860 make more money than most of the men that i try and date now and so when i was younger i was like

02:35:17.380 oh prenups are bad but now I see how at the end of the day they're there to basically help both

02:35:23.020 parties because if you don't make your own then you just go with whatever the state goes with

02:35:27.160 so I don't know if anybody has been married and wished that they had a prenup that was in their

02:35:34.300 favor or had one that was against them but I don't know marriage kind of scared I want to be married

02:35:40.480 and I want to be able to do it confidently but it feels like in this day and age when the majority

02:35:46.620 of people are getting divorced kind of like how brian's like it costs more money to be married

02:35:52.080 than it's worth like yeah i understand for christian reasons being married and doing that

02:35:57.540 spiritually yeah but getting married with the state it feels like it should need to check a

02:36:02.900 lot of boxes and help you in a lot of different ways for that to like make sense for both parties

02:36:07.580 even when it does check those boxes yeah that's your experience and you went in thinking for

02:36:13.340 forever and this is my safety my safe place my love you know we said all those things like i'll

02:36:19.080 be with you forever absolutely because no no nobody well most people don't get married to

02:36:24.560 get divorced yeah no everybody is in it for the long haul yeah right but i'll just tell you

02:36:28.780 something just my experience with my my husband now that i've been with almost for almost eight

02:36:32.480 years marriage can be beautiful yeah you know you hear so many horror stories and we can all

02:36:36.300 i feel like most of us or a few of us can bring horror stories to the table even i was married to

02:36:40.100 To a pastor's son

02:36:42.160 I was married to a Christian man

02:36:43.500 I would just come into the church when I met him

02:36:46.700 And maybe I'll wait and share that

02:36:47.560 But it was the marriage from hell

02:36:50.120 But there's not

02:36:52.760 Perfect people in the church

02:36:53.740 I'll tell you that

02:36:54.660 Would you rather just get married

02:36:58.420 And not file it in the courthouse

02:37:00.920 Yeah I think so

02:37:03.260 I think a lot of people are going that way

02:37:04.880 Yeah and that's the way it used to be anyway

02:37:06.720 Like risk aversion now

02:37:08.340 is so big like you just don't the amount I think the difference in the hurt that you get now in

02:37:13.720 comparison that that's why I say I'm a 1940s gal like they would they were poor they didn't care

02:37:18.100 they were like I love you I love you they could marry you know I like what you said about the

02:37:22.760 prenup though I think that's important before there's contention in the relationship to talk

02:37:26.880 about it and come to an agreement beforehand but for me personally I think marriage is the way to

02:37:32.960 go just because if you're going to give up your body and give up your time and your youth as a

02:37:38.020 woman you want things you want homes and land in your name so you have security uh i think so

02:37:44.000 you're saying don't sign a prenup no sign a prenup talk about it beforehand but it's a discussion on

02:37:48.260 what will be split between you well in a minute we're going to talk about elon what's his name

02:37:53.000 and that i don't even know these people gosh it takes committed marriages thinking that you're

02:37:58.440 going to know the person you're going to be with for the rest of your life i'm so out of like i'm

02:38:01.560 so removed from this i was like what all right let's uh continue on with the relationship status

02:38:06.740 your relationship status? I am divorced for two years. And are you seeing somebody though? No.

02:38:14.400 No? No. Just dating. Is there a guy in the picture currently? No. Last time there,

02:38:20.460 how recently was there a guy in the picture? In what capacity? Any capacity.

02:38:25.560 When's the last time you went on a date? Oh, I went on a date when I landed with somebody really

02:38:30.780 cool yeah yeah but it's just there i don't i'm how did you meet him we actually met on raya

02:38:36.920 and but we had met in honolulu he was

02:38:41.160 red flag i don't even know what this is red flag red flag what is ryan what is it raya is like the

02:38:50.340 exclusive dating app where women try to fuck celebrities wait a minute there's no it is weird

02:38:55.680 they like match you up with people in different countries there's the algorithm is so flawed so

02:38:59.640 did you did you smash the guy i don't carnal knowledge you mean yeah carnal knowledge oh

02:39:07.920 she knows she watches the show she watches the show i did my research too um well i don't kiss

02:39:14.900 and tell that sounds like a yes that sounds like but so you had met previously in hawaii yeah

02:39:21.660 and then i he lives in la because there's a lot of crossover between california and hawaii people

02:39:27.620 come back and forth a lot like i do i come a lot and um so we ended up deciding to see each other

02:39:34.240 again but it's not like a serious thing and i don't want to talk about him too much because

02:39:39.020 it's not like you know what's he do i think he's in finance oh is he six five with

02:39:44.600 it's a song brain have you gone any other dates with any other guys like met up with any other

02:39:52.720 guys since you've been here no just him just him you met up once or multiple times just once

02:39:57.520 i only i've been here for only a few days okay um but do you have anything back in hawaii no i

02:40:06.160 live in hawaii so i'm which island i'm on in honolulu so oahu yeah so i don't really like

02:40:14.800 i am hopelessly monogamous and if i'm actually seriously seeing somebody i can't do the whole

02:40:20.680 like i mean if you're just dating and you don't have titles then i think date around that's what

02:40:25.060 dating is for but i don't really believe in the crossover for myself just because it's just it in

02:40:31.460 my mind i can't like you know keep okay um do you have any any guy in uh hawaii two you have two

02:40:41.240 guys peter and henry my beautiful cats oh my god they're the best

02:40:48.500 i liked that you were you were previously married yeah yes how long were you married

02:40:56.300 we were together for eight years um we got engaged after the first year and then covet

02:41:02.480 hit and we're both from the east coast so we waited another five years to actually get married

02:41:07.120 we were married for a total of two years and then we got divorced

02:41:10.920 and not no infidelity nothing happened but um i was 20 years old when i met him he's a little bit

02:41:20.220 older than me he's 15 years older than me and at the time i moved directly from my parents house

02:41:26.220 yes your smile the age gap good for him getting a 20 year old dad he was such a sweetheart too he

02:41:39.440 was very loving and kind he was a great husband but at the time I didn't know what I wanted I was

02:41:44.620 20 I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life or where I was going so at the end of the marriage

02:41:50.080 we just were very obviously going in different directions and it was really actually a hard

02:41:54.700 decision for me because I'm not religious I'm not Christian I'm more spiritual but my parents are

02:42:00.260 still married and I didn't want to get a divorce so it was tough and a really hard decision because

02:42:05.420 i'm the one who called it off okay um and um any kids no no kids all right uh let's see i had a

02:42:14.740 stepson though oh stepson okay but no kids of your own no um so and how long ago did you guys

02:42:21.960 separate we got divorced officially divorced two years ago and it was a that takes some time yeah

02:42:28.780 no it's quick we didn't a couple months or i mean maybe a couple of months but we didn't like

02:42:34.680 it was very clean and simple uh does does he pay you or did he pay you alimony no nothing no uh

02:42:43.740 was there any sort of settlement like did he have to pay you anything no but i just bought a brand

02:42:48.960 new like 65 inch tv and he got to keep that so that sucked was he uh in terms of his earning

02:42:57.520 were you guys earning about the same or was he earning more we were earning probably about the

02:43:02.620 same i would say i didn't start out earning him until after the divorce i owned did you guys have

02:43:08.900 joint bank accounts we everything was separate oh everything was separate okay so there wasn't much

02:43:13.500 to unwind i guess um okay so you basically been single for what two years two and a half something

02:43:21.700 like that two years two years all right i dated somebody right after him but yeah well how soon

02:43:26.780 after well i this is i think it's a mistake you should i think personally it's good to let things

02:43:34.460 settle and figure things out first but uh about a month after i got jumped into a relationship

02:43:41.220 with somebody who was completely out of their mind crazy hot crazy and crazy hot i have some

02:43:49.040 of the notes that we'll get into later though on that but uh um is this someone that you had known

02:43:55.620 during the course of the marriage no he we met at the gym but where there was no interaction I'm

02:44:02.380 yeah you mean no like crossover no we had just like seen each other but nothing you know never

02:44:08.260 even spoke did he approach you or did you approach him um he approached me so it was like we saw each

02:44:15.220 other at the gym and this is so bad I'm gonna out myself right now I was on tinder the trenches

02:44:20.520 unfortunately and i have since quit tinder good for you but the red flag again but um yeah so but

02:44:30.140 i had i had seen him and so that's how we kind of struck up a conversation okay um people don't

02:44:37.320 approach me i mean it's how she met her husband too it was yeah that's how i met my husband

02:44:41.880 it's because you guys are beautiful no at tinder on tinder yeah you met your husband on tinder

02:44:47.060 yeah all right and is that true brian what as she said people don't approach me and i said people

02:44:52.860 don't approach me either and then she said it's because they're beautiful people because some

02:44:56.220 guys are intimidated to approach people look at his face what is it brian what is it i think to

02:45:01.800 an extent sometimes i mean there there is something to this there there is a little something to the

02:45:07.220 idea that in some instances like a average or cute looking girl may get more attention than

02:45:14.500 like a really really striking beautiful woman because some men might be like there's no chance

02:45:19.680 right whereas like the cute average girl there's like more men who might be like

02:45:25.540 might have a chance you know but that's not just like still like good looking really good

02:45:32.540 looking attractive women are still gonna get hit on by by dudes every once in a while but it's

02:45:40.000 very rarely somebody that I would consider dating. Well, the other component here is that

02:45:45.800 things have changed a little bit. So you were 20 when you were on Tinder. Yeah. I mean,

02:45:51.580 you basically, it wasn't the same as it is now either. You would have had Tinder when you were

02:45:57.080 18, basically. Well, how old were you when you first were on Tinder? Um, I think I had it when

02:46:02.100 I was 18. Right. Yeah. So Tinder created this dynamic where not to say that it's like a great

02:46:08.420 way to meet people necessarily although there's sometimes good people on there or you know you can

02:46:12.720 have good matches but uh it created a dynamic where prior to dating apps you had to meet the

02:46:20.820 person in public basically uh prior to social media dating apps like really instagram but

02:46:25.980 and instagram kind of came arose basically at the same time tinder was also arising

02:46:32.500 you had to go out in person to meet somebody you had to i mean they were like online there's like

02:46:38.400 Like, OKCupid and, like, Match.com, like, before Tinder.

02:46:44.460 But that was pretty rare people were using that.

02:46:48.200 Like, most people were still meeting people at bars, clubs, friends, social group, college, university, job, whatever.

02:46:55.440 So now it's – things are definitely way different.

02:46:59.140 But so the reason women get, I think, approached less is that men utilize other means to shoot their shot.

02:47:08.400 and there's there's a there's other components to that but um all right relationship status for you

02:47:13.600 single uh closer to the mic please where's my little thing no i was waiting for you to bring

02:47:17.760 it back the hand i'll find a way to use it okay so you're single you're single and your orientation

02:47:26.320 you're uh lesbian correct yes uh have you ever dated then yes okay so not bisexual but you're

02:47:32.800 lesbian for sure. Yeah, but I've never

02:47:34.800 been intimate with a man. Oh, never

02:47:36.700 been? Okay, so only been with women in that

02:47:38.800 way. You're a gold star. They call me a gold star.

02:47:41.520 Longest, is that what it's called?

02:47:43.640 Longest relationship?

02:47:44.920 13 years. With a woman, I assume.

02:47:46.820 Yes. That'd be a long

02:47:49.040 celibate relationship

02:47:50.300 with a dude. 13 years,

02:47:53.260 all right. Ever married

02:47:55.000 or anything like that? No, no, no.

02:47:56.400 All right. How long have you been

02:47:58.800 single for? About six

02:48:00.800 now. Six years? Yeah. Okay.

02:48:03.300 You've been celibate for six years?

02:48:05.180 Yes.

02:48:05.900 Okay.

02:48:06.360 Yeah.

02:48:07.240 Damn.

02:48:08.120 Celibate.

02:48:08.680 Abstinent six years.

02:48:10.060 Abstinent six years.

02:48:12.000 Abstinent six hours.

02:48:13.480 Wait a minute.

02:48:17.100 Not six hours.

02:48:21.060 Relationship status for you?

02:48:23.040 Dating.

02:48:24.180 Dating.

02:48:25.600 Are you also on Tinder?

02:48:27.360 No.

02:48:27.460 And or Raya?

02:48:29.140 No.

02:48:29.700 No?

02:48:30.340 All right.

02:48:30.960 When you say dating, what does that mean? Multiple guys?

02:48:34.320 I feel like the monogamy relationship, boyfriend-girlfriend, I take it very serious.

02:48:41.680 So yeah, dating is you're getting to know the person, you're figuring out what you want,

02:48:45.080 you're kind of like seeing what you want to lock in with.

02:48:49.740 But yeah, I am dating pretty much just one person right now.

02:48:54.160 Okay. What's the longest relationship you've ever been in?

02:48:58.080 Five years.

02:48:58.620 five years all right ever married no no never married no kids no kids okay um

02:49:05.540 and you're currently dating but how long you've been dating this guy uh about five months five

02:49:14.740 months okay got it no title yet you know he said it early on and i was the one that was like

02:49:21.700 what no like how would you know we barely know each other yeah fair and i do like if i'm gonna

02:49:29.780 call you my boyfriend and be monogamous with you and be exclusive with you i want to be certain

02:49:34.920 yeah you know y'all ever encounter and it's maybe i don't know if it's totally considered love

02:49:42.240 bombing you ever dated somebody and they tell you i love you yes too soon yeah yes and you're like

02:49:49.700 all the time and you're like do you mean it are you just exactly it in passing like yeah or like

02:49:55.580 sometimes they mean that shit but then sometimes they don't and it's problematic it's because they

02:50:01.140 don't know what the meaning of love that's right i think it's problematic if they think they mean it

02:50:04.880 yeah so that's that that goes back to me saying 1940s kind of they they did that they would date

02:50:11.280 like you can see 20 million movies on it where they would first three dates in they would say

02:50:16.100 I love you or I and they were intentional though but nowadays we have like our risk aversion is

02:50:20.660 very high and rightfully so I think for some reasons especially for guys but yeah I mean I

02:50:26.240 feel like I think I agree with you like if they say it and they mean it I like I'm gonna take

02:50:29.820 you intentionally and we're gonna have to wait to see if that's really true but I mean in the 1940s

02:50:34.640 my grandma and grandpa got together before my grandfather went off into the war and when he

02:50:38.780 came back from the war he was an alcoholic you know so like 1940s mentality you know my grandfather

02:50:45.680 was a great man but he went to the war he did hard things and then he came back and he did the

02:50:50.080 best for his family he could but the 1940s mentality of marriage and dating doesn't necessarily

02:50:55.360 like yeah i've been in three serious relationships and i feel like there was one where i could say

02:51:01.520 like i knew right out the gate he knew right out the gate but that happened one time now i feel

02:51:07.360 like there's a lot more things involved uh what about you relationship status i am married married

02:51:14.500 All right.

02:51:14.800 How long have you been married?

02:51:15.900 I'm married 13 years.

02:51:17.540 13 years?

02:51:19.080 Okay, we're going to...

02:51:19.860 Darius Sunder's core monk donated $100.

02:51:23.520 Anyone else think chair one is a basket case?

02:51:26.240 The best coercer can't convince a pregnant woman into sex work unless she already liked the idea.

02:51:33.100 Also, what kind of zan loses custody?

02:51:36.160 Red flag the law.

02:51:37.300 Do you want to respond to that?

02:51:38.920 I totally understand your perspective.

02:51:41.540 and looking back on my life I would have definitely made different choices um but you don't know the

02:51:49.660 way I was raised in my childhood and what I was escaping and then to fall into the hands of those

02:51:55.280 type of men so I respect your opinion actually I side with you maybe I'm a little crazy no we

02:52:01.040 don't respect that was an incel comment yeah oh I get it I get how I get how it looks I mean I

02:52:09.020 Am I not allowed to say that?

02:52:11.260 No, you can, that's fine, you can say that.

02:52:12.480 He said roast the comments.

02:52:14.120 No, no, yeah, you're fine.

02:52:15.600 I guess one point where I kind of question, though, in line with what he's saying, it's like, are you suggesting, so I understand, like, one, it's just weird even for your husband to even suggest it.

02:52:31.480 even with you say you fully went along with it that's super weird for him to do to even suggest

02:52:38.200 it to try to get you to do it but I mean there is some component like clarify this was he physically

02:52:45.660 forcing you to get on the airplane because like there there were some remedies here

02:52:51.680 there are many points where this could have not gone down the path it did and I understand

02:52:58.240 Maybe he pressured you, he was manipulating you

02:53:00.660 And she was young

02:53:01.700 It doesn't have to physically be forced

02:53:05.220 It was, were you

02:53:06.420 Financially dependent on this man?

02:53:08.620 Yes

02:53:08.980 But no, she wasn't

02:53:11.960 No, because he needed her to prostitute

02:53:15.160 Herself for money

02:53:16.020 She just made a joke about it

02:53:18.360 I'm just holding this the rest of the world

02:53:20.120 I think that's more so

02:53:22.800 What she's saying too is that

02:53:24.100 Whatever happened to her in her childhood

02:53:26.280 set her up to be more willing to be in relationships with men that would eventually

02:53:32.040 lead to the situation i love how much you i have one of those too yeah i love it so much too

02:53:37.480 if i if i did have a girlfriend what i would do is oh no um instead of like telling her what to do

02:53:46.900 i would say there was like a piece of clothing i would tap on her and then here's the piece of

02:53:53.460 clothing i'd be like i have a video and i'd point to the laundry room and um that's how i communicate

02:54:02.200 with my my would-be girlfriend so many memes about that we just see the wives yeah um oh my gosh but

02:54:10.160 okay so you're uh before that came in you're saying you're married for 13 years um is that

02:54:14.740 your longest relationship yes how uh married for 13 together for longer 14 14 okay damn y'all get

02:54:22.400 married quick that's not that not necessarily a bad thing though i was married prior though oh

02:54:28.240 uh so second marriage uh do you have kids i have two daughters with my first husband 18 and 16

02:54:34.280 and now i have a 18 month old with my husband now so three kids three kids yeah okay now the

02:54:41.220 first marriage how long were you how long was that one five years five years together for how long

02:54:45.660 six years six years uh did he pay you or does he pay you alimony uh no alimony no alimony

02:54:52.120 child support child support i didn't get anything for the first six years for six years yeah uh but

02:54:58.160 eventually there was was it court ordered or voluntary um it was court ordered um and because

02:55:04.160 of his job he kind of had to pay it so like he was was he a higher city well city employee so it

02:55:10.280 was like kind of yeah there's a good in the public eye there's a track yeah there's a paper trail i

02:55:17.480 guess you could say um how much was he paying you in child support um so okay let me think

02:55:24.700 he was giving me like six hundred dollars a month for two kids um when after six years of not getting

02:55:32.240 anything um yeah and then like i didn't really take him to court after that and then we kind of

02:55:38.260 we're amicable we're friends my husband and him are friends like we're pretty you know normal so

02:55:43.580 we just like increase it every like five or six years so rock and roll yeah rock and roll all

02:55:49.200 right uh that is everyone's relationship status uh pull up the uh tts or okay yeah if you need

02:55:59.000 to get that go ahead uh all right we got a super chat here from stress can i have uh can you read

02:56:05.940 the chat read it out loud from the crucible and faith you girls need to understand that we should

02:56:11.980 protect. I was saved by being adopted.

02:56:14.280 Do you think I should be a clump of cells?

02:56:16.160 God bless you all. No.

02:56:18.000 What? No.

02:56:19.960 I'm glad you were not aborted. Yes.

02:56:22.220 Yeah. Same. Yeah.

02:56:23.900 I'm a proponent of, and I know

02:56:25.960 this will be probably controversial,

02:56:27.860 abortion should be abolished. Yeah.

02:56:29.540 Every human life matters. Every human life

02:56:31.980 matters. Definitely pro-life.

02:56:33.640 I guess really quick, just going, since he brings it up,

02:56:36.000 thank you for the super chat stress. Just going around

02:56:38.060 the table, pro-life, pro-choice? Pro-life.

02:56:40.400 Pro-life. Really? Yeah.

02:56:41.740 you yes yeah really this is excuse me i wasn't pro-life forever but then i had an assistant who

02:56:48.080 showed me two pictures off of her camera roll of her holding her abortions in her hand

02:56:53.340 and i cried for hours after that and there's no chance that i would ever have an abortion but i

02:56:58.820 also don't boast so i would just pro-life pro-choice pro-life pro-life pro-life choice

02:57:04.300 due to my my platform i don't actually give it out what my you're a debate aren't you yeah i am

02:57:10.720 Wait, you can be, like, not with the trans, but the...

02:57:15.840 Yeah, absolutely.

02:57:16.380 Isn't that a more controversial...

02:57:18.140 Let me, please. I'll explain.

02:57:19.780 You can tell me I'm wrong.

02:57:21.640 Eventually, I will come out with it, but...

02:57:24.100 Well, you already came out, but...

02:57:25.440 No.

02:57:26.680 Let me go back in.

02:57:28.740 So, when I first started debating, it was against the LGBT community and trans.

02:57:35.080 Are you a TERF?

02:57:36.480 They call me that, yeah.

02:57:38.360 So, I do my debates daily.

02:57:40.360 Now, I've got women who support me that are pro-life and women that support me that are pro-choice.

02:57:44.680 So my goal is to get rid of all this, you know, like this ideology of transgenderism.

02:57:51.600 Men can be women and all of that.

02:57:53.180 I don't want to divide the support.

02:57:55.200 I don't want to lose my support.

02:57:56.520 I think women on both sides need to come together against this.

02:58:00.840 Because a woman, let's say a woman is an adult human female.

02:58:04.900 Men who think they're women are mentally ill.

02:58:07.800 It's as simple as that.

02:58:08.840 So that's my message to the world

02:58:10.920 And that's what I've been doing

02:58:11.920 And I don't want to divide my group

02:58:13.720 By pro-life or pro-choice

02:58:15.400 After we know what a woman is

02:58:17.840 And we've clarified that

02:58:18.840 That's crazy

02:58:19.380 Pro-life, pro-choice?

02:58:23.740 I'm pro-choice

02:58:25.540 You?

02:58:26.680 I kind of have the same stance as Envy

02:58:28.780 Kind of the same stance

02:58:30.980 I'm sort of agnostic on the issue

02:58:33.260 Honestly, and I know it's like a cop-out answer

02:58:35.200 But I just

02:58:36.040 I don't know, honestly

02:58:39.000 Would you have an abortion?

02:58:40.760 I actually did have one.

02:58:42.560 Me too.

02:58:43.400 I had one for a medical reason.

02:58:45.240 Wait, sorry.

02:58:45.880 Who said me too?

02:58:46.780 Me.

02:58:47.160 You had the abortion?

02:58:47.980 More than one?

02:58:48.680 Just one.

02:58:49.580 Abortion?

02:58:51.340 No.

02:58:52.960 The hand.

02:58:54.940 Okay.

02:58:57.220 Cool, I guess.

02:58:59.000 All right.

02:58:59.580 Let's see here.

02:59:00.100 We're going to move on.

02:59:01.460 Everyone's...

02:59:01.940 Oh, okay.

02:59:02.480 Ethan Klein.

02:59:04.200 Here we go.

02:59:04.820 Who is this?

02:59:05.100 Ethan Klein.

02:59:05.940 Sorry, it took us three hours to get to it.

02:59:07.920 I don't know either.

02:59:08.000 All right. So the first thing I'm going to show you is now I got to do a little background here because Ethan Klein is not someone who is unknown to me or who I am unknown to him.

02:59:21.200 Ethan Klein. Let me, I guess, give some details here.

02:59:25.360 Ethan Klein, essentially what is being alleged is he was having an affair.

02:59:30.260 He cheated on his wife. They've been together, I think, almost over 20 years.

02:59:33.800 they have kids four kids four kids four kids and they've been together for since they were

02:59:41.160 20 years oh my god yeah over to over 20 years i thought it was 19 or something the last i saw

02:59:46.180 because i've been doing research too was over 20 years got it so okay so and he's the host of uh

02:59:52.620 the h3 podcast and he used to he stopped doing it but the h3 h3 productions he used to do like

02:59:59.940 somewhat different content. Then he switched to podcasting. Not much unlike myself. And this is

03:00:04.500 actually someone I've known since like 2013, 2014. When I say known, not like friends, we never knew

03:00:13.800 each other, never met or anything like that. But actually, I think we talked very long time ago,

03:00:21.000 like briefly over email or something um i think uh 2014 maybe 2015 i think he was getting like

03:00:30.580 was this the copyright shit with like this is old school youtube stuff but um the real what was it

03:00:38.260 the uh fine bros and they were like i think that's when i was someone was suing him or i don't

03:00:44.820 remember the or no he was he was like dealing with an mcn and i was in the same mcn as him

03:00:50.360 and i was talking to him and he had a he's had a bunch of bad contract deals so i talked to him

03:00:55.580 like very long time ago very briefly um but since i started my podcast he he on like i

03:01:03.680 maybe it maybe approaching a dozen different podcasts of his has talked massive shit about me

03:01:12.080 why massive shit about me well he's like kind of liberal leftist woke yeah he's woke and so

03:01:19.440 obviously i lean more conservative and i'm anti-feminist he's a feminist so um they speak

03:01:25.480 a lot on just like talking and discussing different matters and you know either talking

03:01:30.080 shit about them or he does reacts and he basically talks shit about people um so he's done that now

03:01:37.100 i i was able to like find most of those but actually i didn't have time till i i made an

03:01:42.580 edit i didn't have time to go through like every single like i said a dozen different podcasts

03:01:47.320 where he was like doing a segment on me or the whatever podcast talking shit so i only clipped

03:01:53.080 from just one of them just the shit talking it's about two minutes so just to give you guys some

03:01:57.680 background here ethan klein is not a fan of the whatever podcast i'm not a fan okay let's see who

03:02:07.180 is this by the way i never i never responded like he talks shit about me on like 12 different

03:02:12.640 podcasts never responded though because the time is about you just trying to stir something up

03:02:18.500 first video tiffany pull up the first video but you know it's kind of flattering it means he thinks

03:02:23.640 about you a lot he thinks about a lot of uh make it full screen click the full screen thing

03:02:28.580 all right start it from the beginning and let me before we play it let me see if there's anything

03:02:33.120 else um yeah i was gonna make like a longer edit but i only had you know it's kind of like

03:02:39.340 thursday or friday this broke i didn't have time to like go through every single podcast that he

03:02:44.640 talks shit about me on so this is just from like one and then there's one short uh go ahead and

03:02:49.380 play it these men are cancer in society like what is happening he shut up dude you just wish your

03:02:55.800 ugly ass could fucking cover your face and we all do too let's cover his face right right thank you

03:03:02.600 He's talking about me.

03:03:03.460 He's talking about me.

03:03:03.800 What's happening?

03:03:04.780 Meanwhile, why are you sitting next?

03:03:06.080 Wait, quiet.

03:03:06.940 Please, quiet.

03:03:07.620 It's solo.

03:03:08.440 It's solo, bud.

03:03:09.520 Classy.

03:03:10.720 At least you have glasses and you have a water bottle.

03:03:13.520 Thank you.

03:03:14.320 Who are you, bro?

03:03:15.960 What a loser.

03:03:17.200 Loser.

03:03:18.580 Loser.

03:03:19.140 That's right, Eddie.

03:03:19.860 Wait, can you?

03:03:20.400 We should shave off his beard and...

03:03:22.600 Here, can you grab us here?

03:03:26.280 Just click on this?

03:03:28.820 No, no, no.

03:03:29.640 Tiffany, move us.

03:03:31.040 No, no, no.

03:03:31.620 Bro, the video.

03:03:32.600 Wait, did you just...

03:03:36.280 No, grab this thing right here.

03:03:39.760 Right here, Tiffany.

03:03:41.020 Yes, click on this.

03:03:42.600 Click here, where my hands are waving.

03:03:44.880 Yes.

03:03:46.400 No, fucker.

03:03:47.280 Wait, wait, wait.

03:03:47.900 Stop, stop.

03:03:48.360 Hit control Z.

03:03:51.900 Bro, hit control Z.

03:03:54.380 Let go, let go.

03:03:57.600 Control Z, because you moved something else.

03:03:59.940 Holy fuck.

03:04:01.340 Oh, my God.

03:04:02.600 Here, click on right corner in Sources.

03:04:07.140 Click it.

03:04:08.520 Now grab it.

03:04:10.480 Then just...

03:04:11.680 No, grab the fucking picture in the front.

03:04:14.760 Yes, grab it.

03:04:16.540 Now move it.

03:04:17.880 Put it in the corner, the other corner.

03:04:19.340 Yep.

03:04:21.520 Okay, I think that's good.

03:04:22.920 All right, go ahead, play it.

03:04:27.240 Ay, ay, ay.

03:04:28.640 Go ahead, play.

03:04:29.360 And put the hair, glue the hair on his nipples or something.

03:04:34.260 What?

03:04:34.740 Make him hairy nipple-less.

03:04:38.020 Right?

03:04:38.740 Right.

03:04:39.580 In me, Clark.

03:04:40.440 He's got a seven pin on his hoodie.

03:04:42.260 What does it mean?

03:04:43.120 That he, what is it, his IQ?

03:04:50.180 Let's ask the chat.

03:04:51.380 Chat.

03:04:52.140 Let's ask all the chauvinist women hating pigs in chat.

03:04:55.620 They're talking shit about you guys.

03:04:57.280 I think this guy is so bad.

03:05:00.400 Or without without.

03:05:01.140 Awesome, bro.

03:05:02.180 Super, super.

03:05:03.300 I'm seeing a lot of without.

03:05:05.140 But I feel like a lot of guys.

03:05:06.060 This is so stupid.

03:05:07.960 You are such an idiot.

03:05:11.100 What an idiot.

03:05:12.120 He's saying that his audience says they prefer a woman not wearing any makeup?

03:05:16.100 You know that's bullshit.

03:05:16.980 Idiot.

03:05:17.400 I think it's sad that girls even have to go on the show and explain themselves to this fucking pig.

03:05:22.780 dumbass fucking bearded

03:05:24.460 leather jacket 7 IQ

03:05:26.600 ass mother douche

03:05:28.080 why are you laughing Tiffany

03:05:30.360 remember the guy who shot up UCSB

03:05:32.960 Elliot Rodriguez the ultimate gentleman

03:05:34.880 there's something very nice

03:05:36.760 guy about like don't wear

03:05:38.660 makeup you're beautiful the way you are

03:05:40.480 you don't have to do anything

03:05:41.720 Elliot Rodgers

03:05:43.860 this man is so dumb

03:05:46.060 really quick we'll come right back

03:05:48.560 to it

03:05:48.980 he's saying that if you

03:05:52.120 so elliot roger so we actually right we're in the same city where ucsb is and uh university of

03:05:59.040 california santa barbara like 10 plus years ago there's a like shooting with elliot roger and he

03:06:06.020 was uh pretty pretty bad shit right so this is like i live in santa barbara so it's like kind of

03:06:10.960 close to me um he's conflating okay if you have a position as a man if you're like hey i don't

03:06:20.780 need a woman to wear makeup you're beautiful as you are he's like saying that's nice guy shit and

03:06:26.020 it's elliot roger like that's look you can disagree with the take but that seems like pretty

03:06:31.420 bad taste to be like if if you're fine with a woman and you tell a woman hey you're beautiful

03:06:36.720 without makeup you're a fucking psychopath murder like mass murdering what you're an

03:06:46.020 intel like what the fuck anyways um go back to a video and then play the rest all my boy friends

03:06:50.920 told me not to worry

03:06:51.580 like you're literally so dumb right mom

03:06:58.200 i hit a nugget because i hate him so much

03:07:03.000 they should beat his ass

03:07:06.460 they should not just beat his ass that'd be awesome like whatever has got to be the worst one

03:07:12.640 whatever this guy has no he has no personality he has no charisma he has no insight he's probably

03:07:20.040 the least interesting person alive all right so there you have it that's pretty much

03:07:24.960 these men are a cancer in society can you pause it please um and then you can go back can you go

03:07:30.540 back to video tab really quick and then we're going to just put the thing back it's crazy for

03:07:35.480 your job just click right corner in sources right corner in sources click it and then go grab that

03:07:42.300 thing and just drag it back into the corner it should snap perfect good all right we got famous

03:07:47.320 after after off talking about whatever podcast like well i mean he's been it's not it's not

03:07:53.540 really about me but um so that's just i need to provide the context yeah um now that's just one

03:07:59.740 podcast where he's talking shit he's done it on a like a dozen so and it's always it's always just

03:08:05.360 this guy's an idiot this guy's stupid he's not really making a bunch of arguments um but yes

03:08:10.460 and then you heard there at the end like oh they should beat him up inciting violence not literally

03:08:15.680 but you know at the same kind of inciting violence a little bit you know that seems a bit you know

03:08:20.220 yeah like okay and by the way that convert by the way that that's like three years ago

03:08:25.280 the clip in question is super tame it's basically just and by the way i'm three years ago is a

03:08:33.840 completely different brine i'm way nicer i'm way more soft-spoken way more tame i i was like just

03:08:41.560 having a super civil we were talking about like makeup and i was saying yeah you know i kind of

03:08:47.380 think makeup uh not a fan of it prefer women without makeup i wasn't you know it's not like

03:08:54.000 tonight where i was calling people retards and low iq and all this shit even tamed tonight i feel

03:08:59.340 like the last time i would have come you would have kicked her out for not you would have made

03:09:02.620 her say her age and if she didn't you would have been like yeah well the debate was kind of

03:09:05.840 interesting a little bit i guess but uh i came on though and she said she was 63 years old and

03:09:12.480 you were like no we're not playing this game oh yeah well she was definitely not 63 that was

03:09:18.020 obviously a lie but um but yeah so okay so now we're gonna pull up the next thing but i just

03:09:23.900 want to give you guys context here because there is a history between me and ethan they invited me

03:09:28.960 on i think a while ago to debate and i responded i was like asking details and they just never

03:09:34.320 responded back so there's some history wanted to make you guys aware of the context and the

03:09:39.320 uh you know relationship so to speak uh pull up the next thing this is a um you can go the window

03:09:46.660 tab for this now gila klein is the wife of ethan klein uh and she writes the following i want a

03:09:55.100 woman to read it. Can I have you read that? I'm living in a nightmare I can't wake up from. My

03:10:01.360 husband has been having an affair. I've been fed lie after lie after lie for months. I'm tired of

03:10:07.360 lies. Here's the truth. Click next. Go ahead. I could sense something was wrong. I tried to ask

03:10:13.900 him questions and share my concerns and hurt feelings, but I was met with dismissive answers

03:10:18.720 and no action. Things that bothered me continued to bother me and he did nothing about it. So I

03:10:24.400 trusted him because I loved him. I stopped questioning him and began to question myself,

03:10:29.180 my own instincts, and my sanity. Eventually, he was caught in a lie, and I knew I was done. But

03:10:35.200 the lies continued. It was just a kiss. It became, it was emotional cheating. After I dragged these

03:10:41.820 lies from him, he finally admitted that he'd been in an affair for over six months, the extent of

03:10:47.580 which I'm sure I still don't know.

03:10:51.720 The betrayal I feel is immeasurable.

03:10:55.860 The person I loved and trusted for 20 years evaporated overnight.

03:11:00.000 He was my safe place, my partner in marriage, parenting, and business,

03:11:04.080 my only family on this side of the world.

03:11:06.420 How do I even begin to make sense of this?

03:11:09.560 I do not know what comes next.

03:11:11.700 I've never been here before.

03:11:12.960 I'm in survival mode, trying to navigate separation, co-parenting,

03:11:17.340 and unthinkable heartbreak. All I can do right now is focus on taking care of myself and my

03:11:22.480 children one day at a time. You're not crazy. Trust your instincts. Trust yourself. If you're

03:11:28.440 not being treated right, get up and leave. All right. And then tab over to the next thing.

03:11:35.320 So that's from the wife. She posted this on Instagram two days ago. And then he did two

03:11:43.020 stories that's ethan uh can i have you read what he wrote there i know a lot of people are

03:11:49.880 understandably looking for a comment from me but i ask that you please respect my family's privacy

03:11:54.960 and do not contact them looking for me or asking for their comments they have nothing to do with

03:12:00.160 this and share in your outrage and disappointment thank you um now really quick on that i think

03:12:07.080 you know please respect my family's privacy

03:12:10.200 Ethan's

03:12:12.200 the kind of guy who

03:12:13.640 would never

03:12:15.380 would never give anybody

03:12:18.360 grace

03:12:19.220 if they were in a similar situation

03:12:21.800 Ethan's like brutal

03:12:24.140 with his enemies so to speak

03:12:26.520 he's talking to his brother-in-law

03:12:28.260 I haven't seen a lot about this guy

03:12:30.360 but I have actually seen him clips

03:12:32.040 and I can't remember who he's talking about

03:12:33.300 talking about other people that cheated on

03:12:35.960 their wives just saying they're disgusting oh yes yes yes he has i'm gonna see if i can wait i have

03:12:43.400 to find that clip fuck i forgot to get that clip um i'm gonna see the only thing i know about him

03:12:47.840 but also like if anybody's mean to his wife he has defended her tooth and nail and has been like

03:12:53.380 you know supposedly a very good husband sticking up for his wife talking bad about people who cheat

03:13:00.300 and then 20 years four kids later and the person he did it with who well we're gonna pull her up

03:13:08.840 yeah we're pulling that up in just a sec oh yeah it's crazy the people that are like the most

03:13:17.040 disgusted with something are usually the ones that are doing i was just thinking that a lot

03:13:21.100 of guys like that act extremely homophobic so i'm just gonna ask some questions uh hold on i'm

03:13:27.540 trying to i'm actually looking right now tiffany can you pull up that image i just sent you

03:13:31.460 and then i'm going to send you two more things so okay uh gila so the image on the right is the wife

03:13:39.460 gila and then that's ethan now i think some other context here is he's been overweight for a really

03:13:46.000 long time but he started ozempic and then recently past year i think lost a bunch of weight and some

03:13:53.840 people are contemplating if the glow up as much as ethan klein could glow up uh there's a considerable

03:14:04.000 age difference too yeah his wife and the new also one question for the viewers question for the

03:14:10.860 chat uh go back to the photo question for the chat and question for you guys so first off who

03:14:17.600 do you guys think is more attractive i personally think now i think men do this a lot they they

03:14:25.440 downgrade when they cheat i think the wife is more attractive okay what do you think well i think we

03:14:32.240 need a couple other pictures yeah is this the one on the left the one he cheated i think she's

03:14:36.340 yeah is that the picture of them the lady that he's hugging is that the new one on the left is

03:14:40.220 the one on the left is the one that he cheated with no it's a one this is the thing i think we

03:14:44.980 need different pictures i'm confused yeah the left is that's the affair partner really i thought you

03:14:51.400 were saying that was ethan when he was young i thought it was him i thought that was even as a

03:14:55.920 i thought you were showing me him

03:14:58.240 i literally like behind the set

03:15:02.660 i think we need to see another photo that looks like so her name is tamara her name is tamara

03:15:11.220 the affair partner i guess tiffany two new private chats if you can pull those tweets up

03:15:16.420 there's a few more other things we have to react to on this and um so the question i i think gila

03:15:22.940 is major babe status over tomorrow like i don't know ethan could do better than tomorrow can we

03:15:32.200 see another photo of that that was probably the worst photo on the internet she's more

03:15:38.300 well how about this here's a question uh pull that photo the photo we were just looking at

03:15:43.680 back up i think she mogs him though she's more attractive than him i think you need to see her

03:15:49.780 without any makeup on just doing the podcast though because i don't think that she i don't

03:15:53.700 i think she's incredibly attractive but i do think that tamara has a better body

03:15:58.560 well yeah but she's also had four kids no no but she has a skinnier body and tamara has more

03:16:05.060 of like a boob.

03:16:06.080 Can we see the photo tomorrow?

03:16:07.120 I'm just telling you.

03:16:08.440 Can we get a different photo?

03:16:09.100 Let's do,

03:16:09.900 pull up that second video,

03:16:12.480 the second one I just sent.

03:16:15.520 Ethan Klein clip

03:16:17.560 did not age well.

03:16:19.480 Let's react to that.

03:16:20.620 I think I've seen this one.

03:16:22.360 And full screen it

03:16:24.020 and then full screen

03:16:25.240 and then go ahead play.

03:16:26.840 I just hate men

03:16:27.900 who have kids.

03:16:29.800 They fucking put their wife

03:16:32.100 through childbirth.

03:16:35.060 They deliver you two beautiful children.

03:16:39.620 And then you go and cheat on them, bro.

03:16:41.240 Oh.

03:16:43.160 That is so sad.

03:16:44.120 It's so fucked up.

03:16:45.620 And she probably believed in this image of theirs, of the perfect couple,

03:16:49.960 and that they're happy and everything's okay.

03:16:52.180 And then now the whole world is just like, her world is collapsing.

03:16:56.120 And she has to deal with it in the public eye, too.

03:16:58.620 That is really, to add on to what she said, that is the most fucked up.

03:17:01.940 is when one person's relationship doesn't know the extent

03:17:05.020 that the other person is fucked up.

03:17:06.620 I mean, because sometimes I feel like maybe Austin,

03:17:09.640 McBroom is a good example,

03:17:10.760 and his wife may kind of be in on some things to the other.

03:17:13.400 But, like, even in my hometown, I've seen it before

03:17:15.160 where, like, a really religious girl is, like, really loyal

03:17:17.300 to a guy who she thinks is religious

03:17:18.800 who's secretly, like, drinking on the side

03:17:20.800 and doing a bunch of fucked up shit like that, so.

03:17:23.100 They're just a different person.

03:17:24.660 Yeah.

03:17:24.860 They don't know the real thing.

03:17:25.520 Exactly, yeah.

03:17:26.160 Right, right.

03:17:27.260 How many years ago was this?

03:17:28.500 Start it from the beginning and just play the beginning again.

03:17:30.540 i just hate men who have kids they fucking put their wife through childbirth

03:17:37.160 he's trying to convince himself and then you go and cheat on them bro

03:17:45.020 that that is so sad it's so fucked up hypocrite yeah should we put it on a reel and play it

03:17:52.260 pull up the other one pull up the other one and we have like one or two more reacts on this

03:17:57.940 we have uh yeah pull up the it's uh just a photo i think people there's a clip where uh hyla says

03:18:05.760 that tamara looks like her daughter now i i noticed wait scroll back up i noticed that

03:18:12.080 tamara looks kind of like luigi mangioni that's mean why are you getting these photos of everybody

03:18:20.880 was there's a striking resemblance and i noticed this and i can't unsee it and then uh tiffany

03:18:26.760 there's the reaction from the crew

03:18:29.520 and then there's like one other thing

03:18:31.540 that we're going to pull up.

03:18:33.480 Luigi was quite coveted.

03:18:36.020 Well, Luigi mogs her

03:18:37.520 but they look a bit alike, you know.

03:18:40.140 They look a bit similar.

03:18:42.780 There's got to be a better feeling.

03:18:43.840 There's some similarities.

03:18:44.820 There is this one clip though.

03:18:46.120 They did a Halloween special

03:18:47.460 where Hila and Tamara was dressed up

03:18:50.980 like Thing 1 and Thing 2.

03:18:52.480 Oh yeah.

03:18:52.820 And he was dressed up as the cat in the hat

03:18:54.980 and afterwards um apparently tomorrow was the one that picked out everybody's costumes

03:18:59.920 so she picked out the costumes like depicting her as thing too yeah to yeah go ahead pull up the new

03:19:07.840 thing it's so bad this guy works with is that yes they hired her yeah what he's her boss i can't

03:19:15.540 hear you that was the woman that was on the video what um there's there's like a yeah that's the

03:19:22.080 post and she from the h3 podcast because they work together he hired it's like from instagram yeah

03:19:27.840 that's on like how many people it's it's gonna be behind the wife works on the podcast though

03:19:32.240 too so they're all working together constantly seeing all this weird stuff happen in front of

03:19:36.240 their faces all right can i have you read that a message from the crew we're all shocked angry

03:19:44.080 and heartbroken to learn about ethan's ongoing affair as soon as we found out we all agreed we

03:19:49.440 we would not continue working with Ethan involved or profiting in any way. We don't yet know what

03:19:55.340 that means for the future. There's a lot of a lot to work through. We wish we had more answers for

03:20:00.580 you. We stand with Hilah and will support her every step of the way. We're disgusted by Ethan's

03:20:05.360 actions and the hurt he's caused. We all deserve better. Hilah, us, and you. What about the

03:20:10.520 mistress? Go ahead read this. Please know that we're safe, we're sticking together, and we're

03:20:16.280 looking after each other we put so much of ourselves into this show and it's hard to find

03:20:21.280 the words for what we're feeling right now thank you for giving us some time to figure things out

03:20:26.040 for all the love you've shown us we love you and miss you already the crew

03:20:29.760 now hold on before you change it please know that we're safe i know i i that was now look

03:20:43.160 what happens is bad i feel bad for the wife and whatever you guys are that's the production crew

03:20:48.900 for the podcast he wrote it look cheating is bad but like you're not unsafe like you fucking soy

03:20:56.500 that's an ai comment that's so fucking soy oh we're we want you to know we're safe it's like

03:21:03.820 your boss cheated like fucking stopping but it could have been any one of them brian you're

03:21:08.620 being so insensitive they were in danger they weren't yeah it's just so fucking soil we're safe

03:21:17.400 that's so woke coded we're safe i guess they're taking ethan somebody cheated you got in danger

03:21:24.320 bro uh and then tiffany there was one more from myron i think and then we'll pull up the super

03:21:30.520 chat in just a sec uh myron had an interesting observation left-wing feminist podcaster ethan

03:21:37.000 klein who has been attacking fresh ethan klein's gone way harder on fresh and fit than me but um

03:21:42.640 uh says cheating is bad cheated on his 310 uh wife gila and

03:21:49.040 for a 110 creature he employs that resembles now this is the part resembles ben shapiro and

03:21:57.820 greta thunberg that's pretty spot on people are cruel like no that is ben shapiro slash

03:22:05.620 Greta Thunberg. Like, that's pretty

03:22:07.600 you know, that

03:22:09.280 characterization of how she looks, that's pretty

03:22:11.560 spot on.

03:22:14.080 What is Fresh

03:22:14.760 Hands? It's another podcast that's kind of

03:22:17.540 similar. Let me tell you, because I went on Fresh

03:22:19.560 and Fit, and I accidentally called them the whatever podcast

03:22:21.560 a couple of times, and they did not like

03:22:23.660 that. Did they edit it out?

03:22:25.880 No, I mean, I think I didn't even say it on

03:22:27.580 the podcast. I just, no, actually I did. I did

03:22:29.480 say it on the podcast. Did you do it intentionally

03:22:31.560 for your allegiance? No, no, no.

03:22:33.580 I didn't. They were better. They're just

03:22:35.400 both red pill podcasts and i'm retarded she misspoke probably yeah i did he definitely went

03:22:40.860 home and cried so that's pretty much i think tiffany is that can you check is that it i think

03:22:45.500 we pulled up everything on the ethan klein stuff um pretty sure we hit everything well they're

03:22:52.860 they're switched they're taking ethan's name off of the h3 and everything like that wow oh one more

03:22:57.800 okay yeah yeah pull it pull it up i guess what's the other one it's that oh this one um yeah yeah

03:23:05.700 um do you want to read this one no i'm really bad at reading one final comment i'm working with

03:23:12.340 hyla to urgently remove my ownership and financial stakes in any podcast teddy fresh teddy glow or

03:23:19.440 any joint venture that i would profit from all of your support will go directly to hyla and the crew

03:23:25.440 I do this and hope that people can still support Hyla and the crew without the concern of enriching me.

03:23:31.020 I know the crew will make an awesome show.

03:23:33.200 They are packed to the brim with the most talented, creative, hilarious, and all-around great people.

03:23:37.800 This is, like, very premature.

03:23:39.840 He's basically...

03:23:41.220 Resigning?

03:23:42.640 Well, he's like, he, like, take everything.

03:23:45.360 He's so upset by his own...

03:23:47.620 Actions.

03:23:48.380 He manufactured his own demise, I guess.

03:23:51.580 He's the architect of his own demise.

03:23:53.800 and but like it's interesting the first thing he goes to is like the business aspect why not just

03:24:01.680 be like hey i'm a piece of shit you're right i cheated yeah i don't know and like the crew

03:24:08.080 already quit though is the podcast like nobody watches that shit for the other people like i

03:24:14.700 personally don't find them particularly entertaining or funny but like he is the show yeah like so it's

03:24:20.580 it's over i don't know they'll probably rebound or some shit initially i thought it was a publicity

03:24:27.340 stunt initially very early on but then i was like oh okay this is going long enough yeah right

03:24:33.100 anyways any thoughts from any of the panelists on this that's i just think it's absolutely wild

03:24:38.960 it definitely got my attention for a couple of days i was like she started watching frenemies

03:24:43.720 clips again of trisha being like there's something wrong with you and just all the clips that didn't

03:24:48.940 age well he's friends with trisha paytas they did the frenemies podcast together yeah i think

03:24:53.600 that's where i saw him because i didn't know his name but i i like trisha paytas yeah i think

03:24:57.740 people with very strong opinions need to be cognizant about hypocrisy because it always

03:25:02.740 ends up biting them in the ass a hundred percent every time i think it's heartbreaking what she's

03:25:07.160 going through right now but in the long run she's better off with i don't like yeah girl we're so

03:25:11.820 glad that got exposed i could see them maybe reconciling maybe really because of 20 years

03:25:17.360 of marriage oh maybe they got kids don't do it he has spoken about everything like i feel like

03:25:24.720 this is just such a blind side like she doesn't know who she's married to i mean this is kind of

03:25:28.680 like i think his character has been very uh very obvious does not like it very much i don't think

03:25:35.480 either there's been a lot of issues just with their families over like a lot of years i think

03:25:41.560 that this probably well if she's listening to this she's still batty please yeah girl you're a

03:25:46.120 Don't go bad to him.

03:25:47.120 Can I shoot my shot?

03:25:48.560 Yeah.

03:25:50.300 Give it a little bit of time.

03:25:51.840 She made more money than you.

03:25:53.100 She's rich.

03:25:53.760 She's probably rich.

03:25:54.580 But like Hila, you know.

03:25:56.140 She's rich, right?

03:25:57.420 She needs a rebound.

03:25:58.960 Hila needs a rebound, so I'm here for you, Hila.

03:26:01.220 Listen, Hila, he believes in marriage.

03:26:02.820 Don't listen to all the other stuff.

03:26:03.980 I'm here for you, Hila.

03:26:04.300 Shoot that shot.

03:26:05.740 You got the, never mind, I'm done.

03:26:07.740 Use the point.

03:26:08.320 Just bold.

03:26:09.180 Yeah.

03:26:09.580 That's what I was going to say.

03:26:10.580 Or, or wait, there's two roads I can go down, Chad.

03:26:14.300 But either I, I, I step in, you know, there's four kids.

03:26:19.800 Someone has to be stepdad.

03:26:21.260 Somebody has to be stepdad.

03:26:22.480 That's right.

03:26:23.120 I step in.

03:26:24.420 She's, she's got blue eyes.

03:26:26.200 I like that.

03:26:26.800 That's hot.

03:26:27.280 Right.

03:26:27.920 I step in as stepdad, you know, dick her down.

03:26:32.560 Okay.

03:26:33.680 Oh my God.

03:26:34.160 This is not good.

03:26:35.580 Hey, they've been so fucking.

03:26:39.700 No, I know.

03:26:40.300 They will say absolutely insane stuff.

03:26:42.480 Ethan and the H3 podcast has been brutal to me for years.

03:26:47.320 I never responded once.

03:26:49.400 If he hadn't talked shit, I wouldn't even go here.

03:26:52.020 It's a very problematic podcast.

03:26:53.780 People don't like her either.

03:26:55.200 Also, he is ruthless.

03:26:57.540 He's ruthless with everybody.

03:27:01.220 He goes on the war path against people.

03:27:04.140 He sues people.

03:27:05.300 He goes on the war path against people.

03:27:07.200 Why do you want to respond now?

03:27:08.740 What's prompting you to want to say something?

03:27:10.800 He talks shit.

03:27:11.320 Yeah, this is a perfect opportunity.

03:27:13.100 Everyone's talking shit.

03:27:14.040 I mean, it's like...

03:27:14.980 It's very hot on the internet right now because, like, how dare...

03:27:18.900 Like, everybody...

03:27:19.900 Even Hilo wants him to get this heat, you know?

03:27:22.280 Because how dare...

03:27:23.600 Well, one, what he did is, like, there's...

03:27:25.900 Sometimes in internet beefs, there's, like, one side and the other.

03:27:29.660 What he did, there's no excusing it.

03:27:31.940 Tamar definitely, like, played the role of homewrecker.

03:27:34.620 Like, she took pride in doing this, by the way.

03:27:37.100 I'm down to crack her, too.

03:27:38.500 You think so?

03:27:39.160 I'll crack her out, too.

03:27:39.880 there's just so many different why are you making that face well how would you want to

03:27:44.060 be do that with someone who just cheated on someone like you know well no no if you look

03:27:49.440 at all the clips from the podcast and things like that the way that they um the way that

03:27:55.160 they're public because they're all on the podcast together and the way she would flirt

03:27:58.180 with him on the podcast apparently gila had asked questions about the situation before

03:28:02.860 and so it was an ongoing love affair that happened at work yeah two options though two options i can

03:28:08.960 start dating gila if she's down of course i could be the stepdad come in date her marry her because

03:28:15.800 i think she makes more money than me so i'll marry her under that circumstance gila if you're watching

03:28:20.640 obviously your soy woke husband doesn't work come come deal with a conservative um

03:28:27.600 and that but then the second option is but what brandon on the first date second option is

03:28:35.440 Ethan becomes co-host of the

03:28:38.020 whatever podcast. This is his

03:28:40.140 and then he becomes fucking red

03:28:42.020 pill. Ethan Klein

03:28:44.080 becomes red pill

03:28:45.960 sits there and then

03:28:47.940 he co-hosts the whatever podcast for me

03:28:50.180 and then he's just a dog

03:28:52.280 he becomes a fucking dog

03:28:53.920 Andrew comes over and you guys are all

03:28:55.840 Ethan Klein is the new fucking Andrew Tate

03:28:58.160 he's going to buy a fucking Bugatti

03:28:59.860 he's going to have a midlife crisis

03:29:01.920 he's going to shave his hair

03:29:04.100 Ethan Klein, Ethan Tate, let me fucking tell you.

03:29:08.040 And he's going to be the co-chat.

03:29:09.300 What do you think?

03:29:09.840 You sound more excited about that than the wives.

03:29:12.260 Oh, that'd be fucking killer.

03:29:13.660 Because I could get different wives, but there's only one Ethan Klein.

03:29:17.380 Yeah, there you go.

03:29:18.340 Only one Ethan Klein.

03:29:19.480 I'll manifest it for you.

03:29:20.660 But yeah, Ethan Klein, you know, look, you're leaving the H3 podcast.

03:29:24.440 The invitation is here.

03:29:26.360 Bro, it's time to take a red pill, dude.

03:29:28.560 You fucked up.

03:29:29.680 Just, okay, just own it, dude.

03:29:31.460 You got to own it.

03:29:32.200 you're joining the whatever podcast

03:29:34.440 you're co-host now and you're just

03:29:36.420 going to be we're going to be dogs together

03:29:38.400 dude we're going to be fucking dogs

03:29:40.100 you guys have buried the hatchet

03:29:42.080 and Ethan Klein's going to be like got multiple

03:29:44.340 girlfriends and got you know

03:29:46.420 that's how it's going to be

03:29:47.520 Ethan Klein's going to take

03:29:50.300 a red pill

03:29:51.140 we can send him to looks maxing

03:29:54.640 camp and then he can

03:29:56.480 take a red pill and then come over here

03:29:58.400 yeah Ethan Klein's going to be

03:30:00.360 on board it's gonna be on board this is the future oh yeah so there's the look you're leaving h3

03:30:06.720 come to the whatever podcast bro um all right can you read this super chat for me nothing's better

03:30:12.820 than putting on a mask we hide nothing but many oh natural is but not all hide yourselves natural

03:30:19.500 is more attractive natural okay stress thank you for the super chat man really appreciate it thank

03:30:24.580 you thank you thank you i think it is yeah yeah because he said oh really that hila was better

03:30:32.380 oh so i think you guys were saying hila the wife was better looking than the affair partner

03:30:39.620 i think the chat agrees i think she's better looking um the other thing here do you guys

03:30:47.040 think that can you do you still have that photo of um hila ethan and tamara if you can pull that

03:30:53.520 up really quick do you think that ethan and his wife are looks match do you think this is a looks

03:31:00.740 match do you think she's a bit more attractive than him i just why are you using that photo of

03:31:04.880 the cheater what's wrong with that photo it did i thought it was i mean some people think tomorrow

03:31:12.700 is trans but i think it is a chick yeah can you put it it's just because like this is a still

03:31:18.100 frame from a video and that one's an actual picture okay well whatever i mean this isn't

03:31:22.200 too far from the truth like she looks like she looks like okay so no no but between ethan and

03:31:29.240 his wife which one of them is more attractive yeah she definitely perfect this is a perfect

03:31:35.500 segue to our next react love is blind now there is a pull up the the tweet or whatever for that

03:31:42.920 tiffany we're gonna go video uh oh wait hold on fuck there's also the age of netflix netflix

03:31:51.720 is fucking brutal with like

03:31:53.540 copywriting shit. I don't know anything

03:31:55.680 about these shows. They're not allowed to say

03:31:57.780 it, yeah. You should play it. It's fair use.

03:31:59.820 It's fair use, but they're going to

03:32:01.540 fucking copyright it anyways. Alright, we're going to

03:32:03.800 react to it. Go ahead, love. Alright.

03:32:05.940 Full screen. Full screen, please.

03:32:07.540 Play it from the beginning. Go ahead.

03:32:09.800 I'm not worried about how I look.

03:32:11.820 Wait, pause, pause, pause. Pull it to the

03:32:13.800 very beginning, and then I need you to move

03:32:15.720 the mouse off of it.

03:32:17.720 Go ahead, play. I'm not worried

03:32:19.700 about how I look.

03:32:20.980 uh that's not like a big thing you're not really what i was expecting but like

03:32:25.140 it makes sense damn do you know the guy's nickname for me on the other side no they all call me

03:32:33.360 kennedy oh my god jackie kennedy baby no please just more like mitt romney oh my god

03:32:44.360 I don't want to be okay.

03:32:46.360 Stu, uh, Jax has just informed us that she does not want you to go to Mexico.

03:32:57.360 Really?

03:33:00.360 She has to go home immediately.

03:33:03.360 Is this true?

03:33:06.360 Really?

03:33:08.360 We offered her the opportunity to sit down and talk with you.

03:33:12.360 okay she declined can you move the mouse so it's not showing the so are we still engaged

03:33:19.780 or did she dump me that's really for you to figure out she has left she's left love is blind

03:33:28.300 okay so just just i guess um i'm not familiar with these like really stupid

03:33:34.540 reality shows my understanding of this is they talk for each other for a period of time without

03:33:41.400 seeing each other yeah so they don't see how they look hence love is blind yeah i don't know they

03:33:46.960 talk for a couple days or yeah there's a little screen i think in between them yeah and so you

03:33:51.340 talk and then you match up with somebody and so that was their first time meeting meeting and she

03:33:57.540 was not physically attracted to the guy ugly as hell oh love is not people like match up like they

03:34:04.340 match up they pick someone yeah and then they kind of like each other they were engaged i guess

03:34:10.400 Yeah, well, I think you guys get to talk, and then at the end of it, the man will propose a few, and you can accept it, and then you guys will see each other, and then you go to Mexico.

03:34:18.500 Yes.

03:34:18.980 But she saw him and left.

03:34:20.280 Oh.

03:34:21.200 Now, so, question, though, why do you think she had that reaction to him?

03:34:29.100 I guess maybe, I mean, for me, did you see the salad fingers on that man's hands?

03:34:34.860 Like, they looked like the right, I don't, I just saw his fingers when they dangled down from the chair when he was like,

03:34:40.400 Like, they were just so, so epic long.

03:34:42.360 But did you see the arm fat on her?

03:34:45.100 I actually didn't think he was that far out of her league, to be honest.

03:34:49.000 So, okay.

03:34:49.660 I don't fully understand why.

03:34:51.660 Anybody else have to weigh in?

03:34:52.260 Do you want to weigh in?

03:34:53.080 Do you want to weigh in?

03:34:53.560 Well, he definitely overplayed his looks.

03:34:56.500 Like the one girl who said that she looked like Megan Fox, and she did look similar.

03:35:01.100 Oh, do you watch the show?

03:35:02.540 I've watched some seasons.

03:35:03.660 I love reality TV.

03:35:05.820 but um they he definitely played up his looks which kind of defeats the purpose of the show

03:35:12.720 yeah and i think that part of from what i'm seeing i didn't actually watch the episode i've just

03:35:18.400 watched clips of it but from what i'm seeing it it seemed like she kind of was into it because

03:35:24.100 she thought he was also affluent he had money i think he is though is he really yeah he was like

03:35:31.160 my mansions and this and that i was like okay no i think he is pretty well i don't know all the

03:35:36.560 details though i don't watch the show have didn't do a huge background there's another clip that

03:35:41.480 we're gonna watch though um and we're gonna get into like kind of the the big thing here but

03:35:47.560 question for you guys before you watch the next thing you saw the videos of both of them

03:35:52.140 in terms of looks match they looked matched yeah do you think their looks matched or do you think

03:35:58.500 she was more attractive or he was more attractive or about the same?

03:36:02.400 I thought they were the same.

03:36:03.480 Let's go around the table.

03:36:04.440 Looks-wise, I think they were equal, but sanity-wise, he seems a little off.

03:36:08.320 He's a bit off, okay.

03:36:09.420 I would say that they looked similar.

03:36:11.300 Pretty equal, okay.

03:36:12.480 Pretty similar.

03:36:13.140 Same.

03:36:13.860 I'd say she's better looking than her.

03:36:14.980 She's better looking, okay.

03:36:16.040 I think she's a little prettier.

03:36:17.080 A little prettier, okay.

03:36:18.020 About the same.

03:36:18.640 About the same?

03:36:19.280 Even from the lesbian.

03:36:20.960 I thought they were equal.

03:36:23.200 Equal?

03:36:23.720 A little prettier, I think she was.

03:36:24.940 She's a little prettier, okay.

03:36:25.840 that was two two people three people a bit prettier was it it was you yeah you and then

03:36:30.920 you okay um i think they're pretty looks match to be honest pretty looks match there's something

03:36:38.620 well we'll get into that uh next clip all right now this is them meeting up again after she like

03:36:48.080 just left like ghosted kind of ghosted yeah play it and then move the mouse please

03:36:54.180 at first i thought it was like a joke then i was like why not just the benefit of a conversation

03:36:58.980 i should have like they gave me that option and i was like no which i shouldn't have done like

03:37:06.480 you don't deserve that like i yeah and obviously we're like compatible on paper it's just like

03:37:12.020 taking it off paper and like seeing what happens we're actually probably far more compatible than

03:37:16.820 Yeah, I mean, the pods, like, really, nobody can explain the feeling.

03:37:23.320 I remember I was, like, literally withdrawing from the experience,

03:37:28.100 and, like, I needed to hear their voice.

03:37:30.560 My parents text me every day, and they're like,

03:37:33.400 you should make this work.

03:37:35.740 I'm like, okay.

03:37:37.360 Like, they still want to meet you.

03:37:38.460 They still want to, like, you know.

03:37:39.880 Oh, my God.

03:37:40.600 Pause, pause, pause.

03:37:41.740 Sunny Tales purchased whatever six-sex premium would be for $59.99.

03:37:47.880 All right.

03:37:48.960 Go back, like, three seconds.

03:37:50.480 Just go back three seconds.

03:37:52.580 I have no idea how to stop that.

03:37:54.320 Okay, go ahead.

03:37:55.560 Like, you're a part of my story.

03:37:58.200 Move maps.

03:37:59.120 In some way, like, you really are.

03:38:01.240 Would be the craziest thing ever if it worked.

03:38:03.780 That would be something incredible.

03:38:05.480 That would be really special.

03:38:08.380 You know, and I still have hope for it.

03:38:11.160 Like, I haven't written it off yet.

03:38:12.920 Yeah.

03:38:14.460 And I don't want to, necessarily.

03:38:16.260 Yeah.

03:38:16.960 So, yeah.

03:38:20.500 I don't know.

03:38:21.740 Are you going to kiss me or something?

03:38:22.980 Because I can't do it.

03:38:26.340 Okay.

03:38:27.080 He's better than her now.

03:38:28.420 I don't know.

03:38:29.560 He's way better than her.

03:38:31.780 Now, can somebody in the chat tell me, apparently she has, like, kind of a questionable past.

03:38:38.080 Does anyone know her name?

03:38:39.220 Her name's, like, Jax.

03:38:40.340 love is blind wait she was on the other show reality show questionable past but to be fair

03:38:47.200 it's not it's not a crime if she just doesn't find him attractive and doesn't want to pursue

03:38:51.220 it it's like wait it hurt his feelings Jax was an S wait wait like after that second clip he was

03:38:56.080 attractive I don't think he was ugly yeah but not to her but I think it's sad to say I couldn't do

03:39:01.060 it I'm seeing something on reddit I don't know if this is actually true though I'm seeing a post

03:39:07.020 on reddit just on twitter that jacks was an escort in boston the woman in boston in 2015 ish

03:39:14.880 but that's unverified but there is a reddit post that is alleging this i don't know if there that

03:39:24.280 may be unverified though so we can't go off on that but um uh what's the next thing we got to

03:39:30.700 pull up there's one more one or two more on on this love is blind thing now this has been going

03:39:36.600 viral on x and tiktok and whatever next thing uh i can't tell whether oh i can tell whether

03:39:46.420 you're male or female just by asking if you think these two are looks matched or not because a lot

03:39:51.300 of women are saying that she's better looking i think she is just because his skin isn't like

03:39:57.000 even toned but if his skin i really think it's a pretty it's pretty yeah i would say even i think

03:40:03.300 It's a pretty close looks match, I think.

03:40:05.080 She's also got a face of makeup on, and he has no makeup on.

03:40:08.040 That's true.

03:40:08.960 Now, I think there's something – I don't know if you guys will agree with me on this.

03:40:13.180 He has all the individual – most – not all, but he has many individual components that are, like, if you were to mesh them together, would make someone attractive.

03:40:24.160 Yeah.

03:40:25.180 There's something slightly uncanny about his face, though.

03:40:27.980 so like he has like okay he's got the blue eyes and he's got like the good eyebrows and he's got

03:40:32.760 but all together like individually some of these pieces are good but there's something

03:40:38.040 i don't know if that makes sense he has like red blotchiness on his face and i genuinely think if

03:40:44.700 he got his skin to be more even toned like if i took him to looks maxing camp with me we would

03:40:49.760 have him straight in one week 100 you know like william defoe has kind of a look to him he kind

03:40:56.220 reminds me of that actor a little creepy let's pull up the next one whoa let's pull up the next

03:41:03.820 one there's i think this is this should be the last thing that it's like the tick tock i think

03:41:10.240 you have to full screen it right uh you may want to video tab first i don't know just give it uh

03:41:17.520 once you get it up go all right go ahead and play uh play wait wait guys guys guys quiet please

03:41:24.720 quiet audio hello bruh okay here resume it in you're the audio is probably muted uh you're going

03:41:36.400 to have to um unmute the audio and then uh let me know when you have it ready so you can see he

03:41:43.600 could die okay and then start from this man was rejected okay we got it we got it if he looks

03:41:53.020 maxed a little bit he would mock 100 he would mock let's play it play it for his looks on

03:41:59.840 love is blind but he actually has great features and you can see he could actually be unusually

03:42:04.240 handsome very easily with six small strategic changes dihydroxy acetone drops in his moisturizer

03:42:09.360 would master redness and create a subtle tan and a beard would refocus our attention on his eye area

03:42:14.920 which is the strongest and when you see brows is thick threading the hairs just outside the main

03:42:18.940 body of the brow would sharpen the aesthetic without looking unnatural switching to a side

03:42:22.540 part would remove the visual reference for any asymmetry and opting for a wet look would match

03:42:26.660 his hair to his upscale vibe highlights aren't necessary but could break up the black for some

03:42:30.680 visual interest neck exercises would provide a masculine foundation and ear tape isn't necessary

03:42:35.440 like i said i think the first few the first few there were pretty good the other stuff at the end

03:42:45.760 was the ear tape is a little extra some of that shows a bit extra but when i was at looks maxing

03:42:51.400 camp we had a night where we brought in a botox person uh spray tan haircuts and hairstyling and

03:42:59.560 they we even had a lash tech come in and curl the boys lashes and tint their brows and trim them

03:43:04.920 literally some of the boys in one week had such a transformation the boys were doing each other's

03:43:09.640 makeup no they were looks maxing to see this is why this is a real camp i i yeah i went to it

03:43:16.960 it was all boys well no it was boys and girls I paid to go to it and what did you do I lived my

03:43:24.840 best life with all the boys I gave them compliments I told them how pretty they were I told them how

03:43:29.660 handsome they were I watched them you know grow in confidence I had like personal conversations

03:43:35.060 with them to see why it was that they were at looks maxing camp and a lot of them just want

03:43:40.940 to feel good enough about themselves to feel confident to go out in the world and either you

03:43:46.480 know get jobs or approach women and you know most of them don't want to go out and bang a bunch of

03:43:52.180 chicks they just want the confidence to find one girl and have like you know a good relationship

03:43:57.440 so it's like modern day cotillion yeah yes it was i don't know i don't like the i want i would

03:44:04.880 push back massively against trying to normalize men wearing makeup yeah that's fucking retarded

03:44:10.320 they do it their whole thing was that men are doing it on the news you know like on tv and

03:44:14.640 things like that for cameras and so why should you not max yourself out yeah but it's for news

03:44:21.320 for a reason like the lighting we were all on camera we were all streaming the whole entire

03:44:27.740 time this is why i'm like i mean there's a bunch of stuff that i i i'm against clav on but uh hey

03:44:33.900 also he talked shit about the podcast yeah a while ago um but the makeup stuff yeah i mean

03:44:43.200 there's like the bone smashing and like some of some of the stuff yeah but some of the stuff he

03:44:47.700 does is is stupid um but like the makeup is where like the hill i die on like i cannot i will not

03:44:55.520 get behind a guy who advocates for men wearing makeup it's super fucking soy we need to do push

03:45:03.020 back as much as possible we gotta we can't be normalizing men wearing makeup no men have been

03:45:08.440 wearing makeup off and on

03:45:10.180 throughout society, though. What?

03:45:12.160 It's never been socially normalized.

03:45:13.940 How do you feel about the 1800s?

03:45:15.820 They would wear the powdered...

03:45:17.620 They would, like, powder their face and stuff. They would wear the

03:45:19.900 little moles if they had, like, a blemish or

03:45:21.860 something. Men would. In ancient Egypt,

03:45:24.220 they would do the eyeliner.

03:45:26.040 Yeah, but that's not broad...

03:45:27.900 That's not broadly

03:45:30.000 socially acceptable.

03:45:31.860 It's not broadly socially acceptable.

03:45:32.940 The Los Angeles Republican donated $100.

03:45:36.760 Orhel Nabor refused.

03:45:38.440 These hoes ain't worthy.

03:45:40.280 Next.

03:45:41.180 Anyways, I think chair number two is full.

03:45:43.800 Poop emoji.

03:45:44.900 She's too extra brown.

03:45:46.720 Keep an eye on that.

03:45:48.120 Which one are they talking about?

03:45:49.660 What were they talking about?

03:45:50.340 I'm sure to.

03:45:51.260 I'll keep an eye on that.

03:45:53.560 All right, we've got one more react.

03:45:55.700 This also went viral.

03:45:58.260 It's kind of interesting.

03:45:59.660 We won't linger on it for too long.

03:46:01.840 But there's something that happened at a Bruno Mars concert.

03:46:06.320 I guess we'll, yeah, why not?

03:46:08.340 We'll just check it out.

03:46:10.100 Go ahead.

03:46:10.340 Pull it up.

03:46:13.760 It's like some guy who tried to shoot a shot and it completely.

03:46:18.700 At Bruno.

03:46:20.320 To what?

03:46:26.760 Different post?

03:46:30.660 Not blue.

03:46:32.180 Not blue?

03:46:32.960 uh can you hit like the back button on the browser not on the mouse on the on the browser

03:46:41.640 or whatever i don't know i don't know some some dude what's that what's gone

03:46:48.580 here i'll uh let me see if i can pull it up oh shit

03:46:55.580 um let me see if i can find it it was is it this

03:47:04.940 okay i'm gonna send it to you then you're gonna click on the video

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03:48:16.880 All right.

03:48:17.120 You got it?

03:48:17.900 Yeah.

03:48:18.140 okay go ahead pull it up

03:48:20.040 all right play uh can you make zoom in make it one so click click on uh you should be able to

03:48:29.360 click on the video zoom lower the volume on this a bit oh rough lower the volume that's brutal

03:48:40.620 okay good play pov you found love at a bruno mars concert good play

03:48:46.300 one

03:48:48.940 hold some random girl's hand

03:48:58.560 so okay and then

03:49:10.380 arrow over to the next thing

03:49:12.700 or whatever

03:49:13.100 so there's this like

03:49:15.480 comments why do men never just want friendship she probably assumed he was gay uh next one

03:49:22.600 males absolutely are only nice to women they're attracted to what that's why we aren't nice in

03:49:29.080 the first place because men mistake it for flirting so he met a random girl they had one

03:49:33.140 dance and he's in love uh yeah so by the way just advice for men don't that's fucking cringe to like

03:49:39.720 oh you meet a girl and then you're gonna be like internet do your thing find me who this girl is

03:49:45.020 bro shoot your shot in person it's fucking it's just gonna be super creepy and lame and weird and

03:49:51.060 gonna backfire if you're like internet find this girl misconnection no don't you have your you have

03:49:56.880 your chance shoot your shot when you have your chance but um even then it would have he would

03:50:01.140 have failed but um so uh i don't even know why i'm reacting to that to be honest thoughts i guess

03:50:09.160 And they looked like they were having fun.

03:50:11.460 You had a 50-50 chance.

03:50:12.960 Yeah.

03:50:13.740 Yeah, I think that she would have been happy to have him as her gay best friend.

03:50:16.820 Yeah.

03:50:17.380 No, but she's been kind of basking in the attention because it's been going viral.

03:50:25.620 And it's like she didn't really do anything.

03:50:27.480 No.

03:50:28.160 She was just there.

03:50:29.180 But she's like dunking on the dude a little bit.

03:50:32.940 Yeah.

03:50:33.700 Like rubbing it in.

03:50:34.860 He already got rejected.

03:50:35.840 He already took the L.

03:50:37.520 So I don't know.

03:50:38.780 Um, you there, there's some, aren't there?

03:50:41.820 They are.

03:50:42.260 They're mean.

03:50:43.000 But women kind of do that where they're like, internet, help me find this guy.

03:50:47.260 Yeah, no, I've definitely seen it happen a lot before.

03:50:49.120 That's why he did it because he's seen it.

03:50:50.860 It's a thing.

03:50:51.460 It's like a trend.

03:50:51.980 It definitely worked, but just not the way he wanted it to.

03:50:55.140 The internet found them.

03:50:56.420 Yeah, found the chick and she's not into it.

03:50:58.660 No.

03:50:59.220 I think the internet knew she wasn't going to be into it though.

03:51:01.740 From that video, you can kind of tell.

03:51:04.360 Yes.

03:51:04.980 Okay.

03:51:05.360 It's cute when women do it and when men do it, it's like.

03:51:07.600 I can make you when men do it, just if men have, like, an actual clue about, you know.

03:51:11.600 I just think that that was not a love connection.

03:51:15.300 Yeah, like, I think he misconstrued the moment.

03:51:17.800 It wasn't like they had this big, thoughtful moment.

03:51:20.220 Like, he, like, grabbed your hand while they were singing to Bruno Mars.

03:51:27.340 All right.

03:51:29.800 Let's get into some of the questionnaire stuff.

03:51:32.820 Can I just ask one question really quick?

03:51:34.140 I'm so sorry.

03:51:34.480 I just want to know what this metal ball is.

03:51:35.760 I've been staring at it for like...

03:51:37.480 Oh, it's a...

03:51:38.880 This thing.

03:51:39.740 Yeah.

03:51:41.120 So this is a pomander.

03:51:43.820 And it was used in ancient...

03:51:45.700 Let me see.

03:51:47.820 Used in ancient times, like, to mask unpleasant scents.

03:51:52.020 Like smoke kind of thing?

03:51:53.380 So you'd put, like...

03:51:55.000 Actually, I don't have anything in right now.

03:51:56.800 But, like, sometimes...

03:51:58.480 You know how we say don't wear perfume?

03:52:00.960 Uh-huh.

03:52:01.260 I fucking hate perfume.

03:52:02.600 Yeah.

03:52:02.840 so i'll put like lavender something in here or something if like it's some women fucking

03:52:08.920 just do it uh what's the airplane uh they dust air what's it crop dust they just crop dust in

03:52:16.460 perfume and it's like the whole studio stinks yeah and like it gives me headaches even sometimes

03:52:22.960 my mom used to say like a french whore it smells like a french whore in here

03:52:27.120 Horn?

03:52:27.840 Whore.

03:52:28.360 Oh, whore, yes, yes.

03:52:30.100 They get a mask.

03:52:30.760 So it's like kind of soy and kind of weird.

03:52:34.740 I like it, okay.

03:52:35.400 It's just really pretty.

03:52:36.480 I couldn't stop staring at it.

03:52:37.920 Yeah, I'll put something in there.

03:52:39.320 It's kind of, what's pretentious?

03:52:42.560 I feel like it's a little pretentious, but I don't know.

03:52:45.660 Some women come in here smelling like it literally stinks, at least for me,

03:52:49.380 stinks up the whole room, so very much dislike it.

03:52:53.280 Let's see, what did I want to go to?

03:52:56.540 questionnaire questionnaire uh i fucked up the questionnaire this time so i i don't know how

03:53:04.540 useful it's gonna be you have chase why don't we talk about to chase for a little bit uh women

03:53:11.700 are oppressed in the usa men are more privileged in society than women uh why is that i didn't like

03:53:19.780 how black and white these questions were but i do think that when the majority when the majority

03:53:27.780 power holders are men and they're the ones who are the barrier to entry to higher level jobs or

03:53:34.120 jobs where you have more power then it does make the balance unequal because they're more likely

03:53:42.420 to choose men for those positions than they are women you're saying men are more likely to hire

03:53:48.940 other men? Yes. Simply because of their gender? For positions of power, yes. Simply because of

03:53:55.600 their gender, though? What if men are more competent in the specific assessment of the

03:54:02.040 individuals applying for a job? I mean, I just, I mean, you hear about jobs where it's a boys club

03:54:12.340 And you also hear. OK, sorry. Go ahead. And they won't hire women for certain jobs because it's a quote unquote boys club.

03:54:21.540 So I think in some instances, yes. Well, what do you say to the fact that the majority of HR departments are run by women and women do the same exact thing where they have preferential hiring practices when it comes to hiring women?

03:54:37.120 that's hr what about the ceos because i don't think h hr hires the ceos well hr is doing the

03:54:44.020 well hold on so even if it's the case that when we're looking at like the top echelon of uh you

03:54:51.460 know careers or whatever um if there's a greater disparity like if more men are being discriminated

03:54:59.740 against at like either entry level mid I don't know what the term entry mid mid tier I don't

03:55:07.680 know what the exact term would be and though you have HR departments that are predominated almost

03:55:14.120 exclusively by women and they're they have hiring preferences and there's quotas and there's

03:55:20.500 affirmative action that benefits women if okay fine the CEO is male but like 50,000 more women

03:55:28.540 are employed than men at this company okay fine the ceo's male but like 50 000 more women have

03:55:36.340 jobs seems kind of like a better deal for women these are for positions of power and it doesn't

03:55:40.980 just come from a hiring perspective it also comes back to another point that you had said

03:55:45.340 probably a couple of hours ago about women in christian society supposed they're supposed to be

03:55:52.000 home with the kids home with the family and so then they're not lawmakers they're not

03:55:56.840 people in positions of power which means that our laws and things that are being passed are not

03:56:03.100 a lot of them don't go through the eyes of women they're mostly through men so it goes down to the

03:56:11.680 family structure even doesn't allow for women to participate in positions of power as much

03:56:18.020 yeah but why would why would it necessarily entail that even if even if every single

03:56:24.640 politician was male and all the leaders were male that they wouldn't do things for the benefit or

03:56:31.400 to the benefit of women because they have a bias and they don't understand our men don't have a

03:56:36.040 they do have a bias that's why abortion they're trying to abolish it abortion doesn't just give

03:56:41.080 a woman the right to terminate a pregnancy it also gives a woman the right to health care if

03:56:47.480 something goes wrong in a later trimester for example women don't typically get abortions at

03:56:52.200 six months unless it's medically necessary and in states like texas where their mother's protected

03:56:58.160 that is i've heard countless stories about women who were denied health care that they needed

03:57:05.380 and they had to go and flee their state because they weren't offered this health care so in a

03:57:11.020 society where women are told that they're supposed to be in the barefoot and pregnant they're supposed

03:57:17.620 to be taking care of the kids and they're not able to participate in the law making it allows

03:57:22.440 for more misjudgments like this because men don't like you you don't know the the plights of women

03:57:28.740 because you just haven't experienced it why would you need to well hold on i was never a slave but

03:57:33.460 i can empathize with the uh if somebody was a slave or i can empathize with historical slavery

03:57:40.380 you can that was a bad thing you can empathize with it but you can't ever know the atrocities

03:57:45.600 that they had to go through so women should have no say in geopolitics because women can't be

03:57:51.720 soldiers or women rather women can't serve women can't serve in combat roles ergo they should have

03:57:59.300 no say when it comes to anything related to international relations or geopolitics or anything

03:58:04.500 like this i never said black and white that men should not have any say but if women can't ever

03:58:09.960 be frontline soldiers they don't know the experience of what like true what the ultimate

03:58:14.980 culmination of war is which is like frontline combat death yeah but a lot of politicians and

03:58:20.940 lawmakers also haven't been frontline soldiers but they're the ones making the laws it's not about

03:58:25.320 them being exactly in this in the position it's about being able to have other people educate and

03:58:33.380 and help make the laws a little better so even though a man is that from the balcony or is that

03:58:40.220 just from someone random yeah is somebody on the balcony or no i was but there it wasn't oh it's

03:58:45.600 just okay never mind never mind okay continue go ahead i mean i'm not saying that a man can't make

03:58:50.820 laws about women but i think that there should be women in the room to help make these laws because

03:58:55.220 they're not always they're just not always considering all of the different factors that

03:59:00.320 go into the regulations they're putting on women they put a lot of unnecessary regulations on women

03:59:06.780 But we're not putting regulations on, like, if you want to say abortion is wrong, then you should also say that men leaving the wife after she becomes pregnant is wrong.

03:59:17.380 I don't see how that follows, though.

03:59:19.020 It does follow.

03:59:19.640 Because if I can't make the decision to not have this baby, then how come the man can make the decision not to be in the kid's life?

03:59:26.760 If we're both, if I'm forced to do it.

03:59:28.080 There's not complete escape.

03:59:28.980 So men can be forced by the government to pay child support.

03:59:32.080 but like i so you would probably agree though that whether you're a man or a woman if you're

03:59:37.920 inclined to leave a relationship you should have the autonomy to do so i think that you should

03:59:42.720 regardless of if you have kids or not yes you should of course that's not the discussion the

03:59:47.400 discussion is now i'm forced to have a child that i don't necessarily want it's not good for the kid

03:59:52.880 it's not good for anybody involved but the man isn't forced to stay there so but would that be

03:59:57.140 your position if we were to ban abortion then the man the men have to stay well you could give up

04:00:01.660 the kid for adoption no i don't believe in i don't believe in forcing i believe in hands-off

04:00:07.320 government i don't believe in the government saying that we should or shouldn't be doing

04:00:11.720 anything with our bodies like hands off you you govern public infrastructure like we don't need

04:00:18.260 you to tell us that we can marry somebody or not marry somebody we need you to regulate like

04:00:23.700 more important matters than that yeah and last time i checked most politicians aren't doctors

04:00:30.380 So I don't know why they're in the medical, like saying what we can do medically anyway.

04:00:34.840 I think it's less about medical and more about whether or not people are viewing it as murder and whether or not it should be illegal because you're, you know, it's not the autonomy of the woman, but the viability of life and whether or not it should be allowed to be taken.

04:00:49.260 Like why, why is there, why is the baby made to suffer?

04:00:53.360 There's a whole, there's a whole, it's just not existing, but which people argue is murder.

04:00:58.280 But if it once was existing and then you take that life away, what do you call it?

04:01:02.540 You know what I mean?

04:01:03.060 Yeah.

04:01:03.680 Just saying.

04:01:04.620 I think that we differ in this.

04:01:06.280 But the main point is that when you put regulations on that, it also puts regulations on women being able to get health care because it's considered an abortion.

04:01:18.660 We're seeing that pop up a lot, especially in red states.

04:01:21.600 Beyond abortion, what is the health care women can't get?

04:01:24.620 So there's a thing called entropic pregnancy where the fetus is on the outside and it's not a viable pregnancy either.

04:01:35.760 I'm pretty sure pro-life people are fine with life of the mother.

04:01:39.200 But the rules that they put in place, they don't allow for the doctors to...

04:01:42.160 Is that actually true, though?

04:01:43.220 Yes.

04:01:44.120 They don't allow for the doctors to do anything about it.

04:01:47.400 Can I Google this?

04:01:47.900 Yes.

04:01:48.320 And especially look up in Texas because this has been a problem there.

04:01:51.320 Ectopic pregnancies aren't viable, though.

04:01:53.700 Texas?

04:01:54.840 But they can't give the health care because it's technically an abortion.

04:01:59.980 So you can even tell me the prompt.

04:02:02.100 Texas limits egg topic pregnancy.

04:02:09.640 Would it even be classed as an abortion at that point?

04:02:12.400 No, it's not classified as an abortion.

04:02:14.780 Because I know a lot of people, like, they'll want to get an abortion so they don't have to give, like, birth to a fetus.

04:02:20.600 But they can also do it.

04:02:21.120 Hold on.

04:02:21.460 Really quick.

04:02:22.600 So I just Googled this.

04:02:24.020 It's in the tube.

04:02:24.300 So it's explicit treatment for an ectopic pregnancy is legal and explicitly permitted under Texas law and is not classified as abortion, according to the Texas Tribune.

04:02:37.380 They have to be really careful with what they do, though.

04:02:39.620 There's countless stories of women not able to get health care because of these laws.

04:02:43.460 It says Texas law excludes ectopic pregnancies and miscarriage management from the definition of induced abortion.

04:02:50.000 So if a woman's having a miscarriage or ectopic pregnancy, she can.

04:02:58.180 Well, I hope that that's true.

04:02:59.800 I've heard stories where women are not able to get it for whatever reason.

04:03:03.220 And it's plausible that there have been some.

04:03:05.820 I'm still pro-choice.

04:03:06.840 So it doesn't matter if it's about that or not.

04:03:08.520 I'm still like, if you don't believe in abortion, then don't get one.

04:03:11.440 Right.

04:03:11.960 I mean, essentially, you're pointing towards this, like, what is a usually pretty uncommon and rare phenomenon, although it certainly does happen.

04:03:22.560 I mean, you would just also be in favor of a girl is having a one-night stand every single night of the week, and she's not on birth control, and she's just letting dudes blast in her, and she's just like, you know what?

04:03:36.860 I just don't want to have a kid.

04:03:38.060 and from your perspective you're like yep abort totally fine my choice it's her choice right but

04:03:43.920 there's no like um there's like some degree of further argument of okay life of the mother

04:03:51.480 uh essay incest now there are people on the pro-life side who say um i think most almost

04:04:01.040 like 99.999 percent of pro-lifers life of the mother that's yeah they're 100 on board there

04:04:06.620 there are some pro-lifers who are um even in instances of like essay or incest they're like

04:04:12.960 still have to have the baby there's some disagreement uh from pro-lifers on that

04:04:17.840 component but if we move away but and the majority of abortions are just like

04:04:23.140 they're not those instances they're not those exceptions they're just like where did you get

04:04:28.760 this where did you get that it's like 99 i mean i could google it but 99 of abortions it's just

04:04:34.300 like had a hookup was with my boyfriend it kind of feels like a boyfriend it feels like another

04:04:40.400 way to slut shame if you're saying that she can't have a choice just because she decided to be

04:04:45.160 promiscuous it negates it doesn't it doesn't allow for the men to be held accountable for

04:04:54.000 their actions too so if you don't want promise through society men have no escape what do you

04:04:59.660 mean so men can't force women to get abortions or if or if the woman chooses to keep the child

04:05:05.200 she can regardless of what the man wants or doesn't want she can go to the government she

04:05:10.500 can go to the state and they will take away his bodily autonomy by forcing him to pay child

04:05:15.080 support and if he doesn't he gets thrown in jail that's not bodily autonomy it is that's financial

04:05:20.220 it is but well it's bodily autonomy in two ways so basically the court can force you to work

04:05:24.900 so if you can force someone to work

04:05:27.120 and you don't have a say as to your labor

04:05:29.980 that's an infringement on bodily autonomy

04:05:32.500 and then secondly

04:05:34.740 and that can be done coercively too

04:05:38.260 it's like well we're not going to force you to work

04:05:40.920 but if you don't pay the child support

04:05:42.440 you're going to go to jail

04:05:43.640 and that's coercive

04:05:45.220 and that's like okay he's working

04:05:47.420 whereas he might not otherwise want to

04:05:49.580 so they're coercing him under threat of essentially violence

04:05:52.920 we're going to take away your bodily autonomy throw you in jail so putting someone in jail

04:05:57.060 is taking away their bodily autonomy they they're not free to do what they want to do

04:06:02.180 move they're incarcerated they're in prison and so this almost exclusively impacts men by the way

04:06:09.220 so if uh and look it doesn't happen like immediately you miss one child support

04:06:14.460 payment typically you're not going to be thrown but if you're like continually not paying child

04:06:18.400 support and there's a court order for it the eventual downstream solution that the court will

04:06:24.480 do put you in jail that's taking away your bodily autonomy and the man hooks up with his girlfriend

04:06:30.820 she he thought she was on birth control maybe she was maybe she wasn't she gets pregnant she chooses

04:06:36.260 to keep it he has zero say he can't be like force her to get an abortion i'm not saying he should be

04:06:42.340 able to do that but he can't be like you know what i don't want to pay child support i still don't

04:06:47.000 believe in the government being involved in these decisions i almost well they are though i almost

04:06:50.880 wish that there was a way that you could be like okay well if you're deciding to have this child

04:06:54.280 that i don't want then we're both going to go and sign a piece of paper that says i told you i don't

04:06:58.500 want it and i'm i'm relinquishing my rights so you'd be in favor of that like men having an escape

04:07:04.280 it should be a discussion beforehand it can't be like okay i'm gonna go knock up 12 people

04:07:08.840 and then um just ghost it's like but what why can't a woman just go get from your perspective

04:07:16.020 you would have no actual uh you might the conduct you might have an issue with but in terms of her

04:07:22.880 access to abortion you wouldn't have you wouldn't have an actual moral objection to a woman getting

04:07:27.960 like 10 abortions just from like being a slut okay but most women are not getting 10 abortions

04:07:32.960 i know but you wouldn't have an issue with it i mean i it's not for me to decide it's morally i'm

04:07:38.760 not like morally i have no say in it like i if i morally don't want to go do that then i'm not

04:07:44.960 going to do it. Can I ask you a question though? In order to assume like a politician came around

04:07:49.380 and he was really, um, liked by the populace and he was pro choice. And he, but he said in order

04:07:57.440 to push this through, in order to get people on board with just complete across the board,

04:08:01.620 legalized abortion, we have to give men an exit too. So any man at any time, um, there, there's

04:08:08.380 no longer any child support requirement for men. So if you're a man, you want to walk away,

04:08:12.220 the woman chooses to give birth you can walk away no duty to pay child support would you be on board

04:08:17.240 with that i think the flaw in that thinking is that it's at any time a woman can't just walk

04:08:22.120 away from a kid at any time maybe you could go and she can i mean it's it doesn't really happen

04:08:26.400 though it's kind of a little bit more difficult for a woman it doesn't typically happen but i

04:08:31.140 think that this should be a discussion before assuming situations where in the same way that

04:08:37.460 a woman discovers she's pregnant and she's like i don't want to have this kid

04:08:40.820 the woman um the man does not want to have the kid does not want to be financially responsible

04:08:46.460 for the kid he can be like peace and that's it no duty to pay child support honestly if you

04:08:55.120 i don't know they should just make um birth control for men already okay but so then they

04:09:02.140 don't have to worry about that okay but i understand sure but that's a separate thing

04:09:06.720 should the man be able to walk away as i described i think it has to happen before

04:09:10.900 the pregnancy comes to term i think that because after they have the kid if they the kid shows up

04:09:19.160 and they're like oh my gosh this is so hard i don't want to do it anymore i'm like well then

04:09:22.920 there would be a burden on the duty on the woman to disclose the fact that she's pregnant because

04:09:27.700 like a loophole would be the woman withholds the fact that she's pregnant oh she gave birth by the

04:09:32.560 way here's your kid uh you didn't you didn't do the right thing prior to the birth so now you're

04:09:38.720 on the hook for child support okay and this goes back to why i believe in hands-off government

04:09:42.180 because now this is too messy because it's all individual um individual okay but so let's assume

04:09:47.340 let's assume the man knows that she's pregnant and he's like i don't want to get you pregnant

04:09:52.760 peace are you fine with him not having any financial responsibility i think that there

04:09:57.500 has to be a discussion beforehand who when you say there has to be a discussion you mean the

04:10:01.660 the woman has to consent and the man hold on does the woman have to consent to this arrangement

04:10:08.200 it's hard to say it's on an individual basis like i mean you're okay here's the here's over

04:10:15.700 something here i'll give you a hypothetical it's not really all that nuanced it is okay fine it's

04:10:20.940 nuanced here's your hypothetical uh 19 year old boyfriend knocks up 20 year old girlfriend or

04:10:26.780 19 year old girlfriend she wants to keep the kid he he does not want a kid

04:10:32.860 switch it for a second assume she wanted an abortion you'd be fine with her getting an

04:10:39.860 abortion right yeah cool he doesn't want the kid she wants to keep the kid she tells him he's like

04:10:45.780 nah don't want the kid she's like well i'm keeping it under that circumstance should he have an escape

04:10:50.800 from child support that doesn't require her to consent to it he's just like peace i'm out not

04:11:02.620 paying for shit i don't know i i have conflicting thoughts about why because i mean for a woman to

04:11:11.020 carry a pregnancy to term it it requires her to put her body under a lot of stress and he didn't

04:11:17.060 consent to pregnancy though she could have made the decision to get the abortion but they both

04:11:21.000 had unprotected sex they both were in the mistake together speak closer to the mic please they both

04:11:26.800 i mean he came inside of hers and she got pregnant so it's 50 50 responsibility but but you're pro

04:11:33.420 choice aren't you i am right so but i actually both consented they both consented to the sex

04:11:39.080 right so why it's so funny i think abortion wait wait pro pro-choice people as soon as we start

04:11:46.000 talking about freeing freeing men hey i just said as soon as we start talking about um men's

04:11:53.220 liberation as it relates to the abortion topic you guys turn into i actually i actually think

04:11:59.880 the same arguments pro-lifers use you your bronze age pro-lifers it's well that's what i was trying

04:12:07.180 to say is that if it is an agreement between the two of them like he you knew for a fact that he

04:12:13.360 didn't want to have the kid. He told you

04:12:15.320 from the very beginning that they're not going

04:12:17.340 Wait, but this wouldn't even be the

04:12:19.320 standard for the woman who can get the abortion.

04:12:21.420 What do you mean?

04:12:23.040 I actually think

04:12:24.920 What about what if the man

04:12:27.340 finds out that she's pregnant and

04:12:29.280 he really wants to have that

04:12:31.420 kid but she doesn't want to? Then go find

04:12:33.400 somebody that wants the kid. But why not just

04:12:35.440 you're already pregnant with

04:12:37.400 his child. Why can't he just have full

04:12:39.260 custody? Because it's

04:12:41.000 That's his kid.

04:12:42.460 I think you guys both have good rebuttals.

04:12:44.320 No, because it's her body.

04:12:46.260 But it's also his.

04:12:47.520 It's 50% his DNA and 50% hers.

04:12:50.380 He could be devastated because his child is dead.

04:12:52.940 And there are men who are absolutely devastated when they find out that their girlfriends get an abortion without telling them because that's their baby.

04:12:59.380 If I'm pro-life and I believe that tapeworms are life forms and my husband gets a tapeworm, I want him to keep it.

04:13:06.360 Hold on.

04:13:06.860 Are we calling a baby a tapeworm now?

04:13:08.740 Here, let's go back to the freeing the man, though, from his financial child support obligation.

04:13:15.320 So I gave you the hypothetical.

04:13:18.140 I'm a bit confused.

04:13:20.420 Let's assume that, so my perspective is, if in some scenario where there's a legal method for a man to, you know, he relinquishes any responsibility, he doesn't have any, he doesn't have, what's the word for it?

04:13:37.180 parental responsibility. He doesn't have any parental, what's it called? Blinking on the word

04:13:44.080 here. Obligation. Custody. He relinquishes custody, sure. And he doesn't want to pay any

04:13:52.460 child support. He wants no financial, no parental responsibility or duty. But assume in like a

04:14:00.320 scenario, like you, you do acknowledge that women will go after men who don't want to be involved

04:14:05.280 in the kid's life and go after them oftentimes very viciously for child support um assume the

04:14:10.680 woman wants some sort of financial compensation from him but you know there's laws that allow

04:14:16.460 men to escape um do you think that he he should get her consent is that what you're kind of at

04:14:24.220 here no what i'm i mean i think it should be an agreement between the two people why and does a

04:14:29.400 Women, boost audio again, $70.

04:14:33.580 Thank you, Bennett.

04:14:34.000 Ladies, your thoughts on women who are pro-life, does that make them less of a woman because they don't want an abortion?

04:14:41.520 Children are a blessing.

04:14:43.240 Plus, men have feelings, too.

04:14:45.440 Sorry to burst your bubble.

04:14:47.080 Really quick, anybody want to answer that super quick?

04:14:50.180 Thank you, Bennett, for the TTS.

04:14:51.920 I mean, I think that men do have feelings, and I think that they should be considered in these kind of situations.

04:14:55.780 Yeah, totally.

04:14:56.740 I agree.

04:14:57.060 this is also I guess more so directed at the pro-choice

04:14:59.920 women so I don't know

04:15:01.080 I think men have a say in it too

04:15:03.800 and I think that there should

04:15:05.860 be you both had sex so you both

04:15:07.940 made the decision to

04:15:09.840 be loose in

04:15:11.840 sexual conduct and

04:15:13.800 I think then at that point you have to have

04:15:15.760 adult conversations and if the guy

04:15:17.600 doesn't want the child and the

04:15:19.740 girl does and that's a responsibility she's

04:15:21.660 going to take on and I don't

04:15:23.700 necessarily think it's

04:15:25.220 the man's duty to have to be a part of it if he doesn't want to be do you want to go back to what

04:15:33.220 we were talking about it's not cool but go ahead i can agree with that but i think that what the

04:15:39.760 reason why i think everything should be written down which i feel like always get everything in

04:15:44.280 writing because you never know when people change their mind when things get hard i think it needs

04:15:48.900 to be in writing because i mean he should protect himself in your utopian world where abortion is

04:15:54.680 just completely illegal across the board legal or sorry did i say illegal yeah okay sorry yes i

04:16:00.020 meant to say completely legal and there's no government either well yeah i didn't say hold

04:16:04.400 on let's not let's not get sidetracked here let me try to get to the point um um your utopia

04:16:12.440 fucking utopia uh does the does the woman who wants to get an abortion does she require consent

04:16:20.540 from the man to get the abortion no because it's great so why should the man require consent from

04:16:25.680 the woman to just be like i don't want to pay child support he should just be he should not

04:16:30.760 be reliant on the woman's veto why why that makes no sense well what i'm saying is it needs to be

04:16:37.400 in a like it doesn't need to be an agreement much like how as it currently is and how you'd be fine

04:16:43.260 with the laws being a woman the the man wants the kid to wants to keep the kid the woman can be like

04:16:50.060 I don't give a fuck what you want. Fuck you. I'm getting the abortion or fuck you. I'm keeping the

04:16:55.440 kid. The woman does not require the man's consent in either circumstance, either for abortion or

04:17:01.580 keeping the kid. I think that's a higher bar than just the man who's like, okay, you can murder your

04:17:07.440 kid. I just don't want to financially, I can abandon it. If you can kill your kid, I can

04:17:11.880 abandon it and so why from your perspective as someone who's pro-choice in furtherance of

04:17:22.420 securing abortion rights for women why would you not make a granting for men to also have

04:17:29.500 an equitable escape from parental responsibility i never said that i said that you said it requires

04:17:36.740 the woman's consent so the woman has ultimate veto power on if it's no if it's not a right to

04:17:44.140 the the man doesn't have the right if there's a requirement for the woman to give her consent

04:17:50.440 my thing is i don't think that it should be a legal thing when i'm saying writing i'm like

04:17:54.980 you don't want to both of you agree you in words you agree verbally that i'm i'm gonna keep the

04:18:01.700 baby and you're not gonna be in its life and then later it gets hard and she changes her mind and

04:18:06.520 she comes after him you just want to protect yourself and i'm not saying you have to do it

04:18:10.940 legally i'm so what do you mean protect yourself i think that if you guys both agree to it you

04:18:15.460 should definitely write it down and have some documentation but what if she wants to keep the

04:18:20.660 kid and she's like i need money for the kid and he's like i didn't want the kid fuck you i'm

04:18:26.940 leaving then they're adults hopefully having this a conversation but he's like i'm not paying you

04:18:33.800 money then it's up to them i mean he has the right what do you mean it's up to them it's up to them

04:18:37.460 then they so okay so she doesn't have legal recourse in your from your i don't even know

04:18:42.500 how you would set things on recourses for that well no in the real world uh if the man's like

04:18:47.220 fuck you i'm not doing anything she can just go to court get child support and she can force him

04:18:53.120 to pay child support essentially yeah 18 years 21 years welcome to america i'm just kidding well i

04:19:00.480 I have no say on that because I have no idea about that.

04:19:04.080 You also have no say on abortion, I guess.

04:19:06.320 No, I do have a say on abortion.

04:19:07.760 How so?

04:19:08.280 Because I think it should be pro-choice.

04:19:09.920 Okay, but so you can make a determination as to whether we should give men an escape

04:19:13.920 from if they don't want to be a parent or they don't want to be financially responsible

04:19:18.820 in the same way women get abortions because they're just not ready to be a parent

04:19:22.520 or they don't want to be financially responsible for a child.

04:19:25.020 Why not give that same equitable option to men?

04:19:30.480 to escape financial responsibility when they don't want to have a child.

04:19:34.720 Yeah.

04:19:35.000 Well, then that would require both people's consent.

04:19:37.860 Why?

04:19:39.160 I don't know.

04:19:40.240 That doesn't make sense.

04:19:41.360 You're saying if the woman doesn't need the man's consent,

04:19:42.960 then the man doesn't need the woman's consent.

04:19:44.020 Yes, that's what I'm saying.

04:19:45.160 If she wants to have the baby and he doesn't want it,

04:19:46.960 he should be free to leave if she's making him, you know.

04:19:49.780 Without there having to be any consent.

04:19:52.260 Because it should be equal across the board.

04:19:54.120 If she doesn't need consent, he doesn't need consent, period.

04:19:57.000 They do have a child, but if one decides, I don't want to take care of the child, then they can't be judged.

04:20:03.380 And the other person, if they say, I don't want to take care of this child, I want to kill it,

04:20:07.080 then if you're going to be, like, egalitarian, then that really needs to be the stance.

04:20:15.300 Do you have a response?

04:20:17.060 Hold on.

04:20:18.260 D2R underscore or donated $100.

04:20:21.180 Pregnancy from consensual sex

04:20:24.260 Should bind both parents

04:20:25.800 Under promissory as topple

04:20:27.380 Both deserve equal say

04:20:29.580 Without mutual consent

04:20:31.400 Abortion should be legal

04:20:33.260 But yeah

04:20:35.400 But one clarification here

04:20:36.860 So the way it currently is

04:20:38.440 Assume a scenario where the woman wants to keep the kid

04:20:41.380 And the man he didn't want it

04:20:43.600 You know say it's a one night stand

04:20:45.600 Or they're young

04:20:46.860 Or it's his girlfriend

04:20:48.340 But they're just kind of casual

04:20:50.280 whatever the scenario the man does not want the kid the current way it would work is and assume

04:20:55.500 the woman wants to keep the kid now she could voluntarily this is i suppose the consent part

04:21:02.500 she could voluntarily be like i don't want anything from you goodbye although for the

04:21:07.040 period of 18 or 21 years at any moment she could go to court and claw child support from him

04:21:14.140 but so the way it currently is she wants it he doesn't want it she can get child support

04:21:24.340 i i agree in a in a society where abortion is completely illegal then yes if you get a woman

04:21:32.860 pregnant in that circumstance you're on the hook for child support and that's how it is

04:21:37.020 but we live in the united states some states it's legal some states it's illegal

04:21:41.680 your position though is you're in favor of abortion you would like to see just completely

04:21:48.280 legalized abortion basically any circumstance choice it's right pro choice if she wants to

04:21:54.120 keep it or not right so you should if you believe that women should have i mean it's not technically

04:22:02.980 contradictory because i guess you could be like i mean yeah women should have a choice but men

04:22:07.500 shouldn't i guess but um i i guess where i'm confused here i like your debate i think it's

04:22:12.660 valid if women are able to murder their kids then men should be able to abandon their kids

04:22:20.500 and when i say abandon i just mean they should be able to walk away no parental responsibility

04:22:26.120 which men can currently do but there's always the potential uh peril of financial responsibility

04:22:34.040 that can be invoked through the court and social stigma i think my stance on it is more so just for

04:22:40.520 as an individual to have a choice in what you want to do i do think that your point is valid

04:22:46.760 and i think men should have a choice too i think men and women should have she doesn't think that

04:22:52.580 men should have a choice that's not what i said i was agreeing with you guys no you said hold on

04:22:58.160 Okay, give me a scenario where you said they should both agree.

04:23:02.900 So here's the hypothetical.

04:23:04.700 Well, I'm saying it should be a discussion beforehand.

04:23:07.060 But does a woman need to discuss with a man?

04:23:09.600 She should.

04:23:10.200 Imagine the man.

04:23:11.040 Before you have sex with somebody, I would hope that this would be a discussion.

04:23:15.600 People have hookups.

04:23:18.000 Yeah, just hook up at a bar.

04:23:18.720 People have hookups.

04:23:21.300 Sometimes people are in relationships, and they don't know what would happen if you were to get pregnant.

04:23:26.940 A lot of people are in relationships, and that hasn't even been a conversation.

04:23:30.920 Well, there should be a PSA.

04:23:31.940 If you're having sex with somebody who's in a relationship, you have a conversation.

04:23:34.540 Whether you've had the conversation or not, though, the question becomes,

04:23:40.120 your perspective is, if a woman wants to get an abortion,

04:23:44.400 she does not require the man's consent at all for that.

04:23:47.880 Doesn't matter what he thinks.

04:23:49.600 If he wants to keep the kid, it doesn't matter.

04:23:51.660 D2 on Addis Coral donated $100.

04:23:54.540 Thank you, man.

04:23:55.000 A pro-choice label is a silly disguise for a grim reality.

04:23:59.000 You can dress it up in polite language,

04:24:01.380 but ending an unborn life isn't a valid choice.

04:24:04.360 It's just another word for murder.

04:24:07.220 All right, D2R, thank you for the TTS.

04:24:10.960 But what's your stance on everything else,

04:24:13.000 like the COVID backs and everything else?

04:24:14.720 That's been like the left and right switched.

04:24:16.820 All right, we're not going to get into that.

04:24:18.640 But it's the same thing.

04:24:21.460 I think people should have a choice for that too.

04:24:23.400 being out it's bodily autonomy is what it comes down to you know right but you wouldn't force

04:24:28.800 somebody to have an organ just because they're a match but i'm not having a i'm not having an

04:24:33.180 abortion debate with you i'm having a guys stop stop stop stop stop

04:24:37.680 lay off the booze i don't know what the fuck is going on over here there's no alcohol in this

04:24:44.020 whatever we've been here for a billion years so in a scenario where a man gets his girlfriend

04:24:52.080 pregnant she wants to keep it he doesn't you're saying that there needs there needs to be an

04:25:01.440 agreement between them as to him relinquishing financial responsibility why because men are

04:25:10.640 notoriously unreliable that's why but he doesn't want what does that so he wants to be unreliable

04:25:18.580 He wants nothing to do with a kid.

04:25:20.900 He doesn't want to pay shit.

04:25:22.300 Okay.

04:25:23.060 Then that's their agreement.

04:25:25.020 Then he has nothing to do with the kid.

04:25:26.780 What if she wants child support there?

04:25:29.580 Then there's no agreement,

04:25:30.600 but in the same way that women can get abortions,

04:25:35.680 regard if,

04:25:36.680 if the man wants her to keep the kid and she wants to get an abortion,

04:25:40.560 it doesn't fucking matter.

04:25:42.100 She can still get the abortion.

04:25:43.980 Yeah.

04:25:44.520 In that same bodily autonomy,

04:25:46.500 right?

04:25:46.900 But it's also about,

04:25:47.880 it's also about bodily autonomy to the man too

04:25:51.020 but he should also be able to escape responsibility

04:25:54.160 in an equitable way

04:25:56.460 the same way that women escape responsibility

04:25:58.720 but I haven't heard

04:26:03.480 a way that would be equal to that yet

04:26:06.160 so that's why we're not coming to an agreement

04:26:08.580 what do you mean equal

04:26:09.860 I haven't heard a way that's equal to that

04:26:13.460 no it's equitable

04:26:15.780 because men don't get pregnant

04:26:17.100 women get pregnant. So equal would be like, if women have abortion rights, men would have abortion

04:26:22.660 rights too. In which case you could, I guess, make the woman get an abortion when she otherwise

04:26:28.480 doesn't. That's untenable. Equity would be like, well, okay, men don't get pregnant. We're not

04:26:34.160 going to be, when it comes to abortion rights, we're not going to, men can't tell the woman who

04:26:38.700 wants to keep it to get an abortion. What's equitable then is to be like, okay, well,

04:26:43.360 she's going to have the kid but you're not going to be financially responsible if you don't want

04:26:50.500 to be that's equity well i think that that should be a choice well it currently isn't but i'm a bit

04:26:58.920 confused when you say it's a choice without the woman's consent it should be a choice for the man

04:27:04.380 i just have a hard time saying that because it's i don't know it's a difficult one because

04:27:13.140 Because why? Why is it difficult?

04:27:17.360 I don't know, because I don't know enough about it.

04:27:19.200 I don't know enough about the men being forced to pay child support and things like that.

04:27:24.860 So how am I supposed to have an opinion on something that I'm not knowledgeable on?

04:27:27.800 It's like child support exists.

04:27:30.160 Oh, that is the case.

04:27:31.680 It is currently the case that if a man has a kid with a woman, he can be forced to pay child support.

04:27:39.940 And if he don't, he goes to prison.

04:27:42.260 Yes.

04:27:43.140 he's being forced it's like a whole i used to work with men who literally worked in the back

04:27:49.240 of a restaurant and had every paycheck siphoned and if they didn't pay their child support then

04:27:54.940 they would lose their license and then if they lost their license they wouldn't be able to work

04:27:58.900 and eventually they would go to jail for not paying child support jail yeah they go to jail

04:28:03.700 they live in a really shitty place they have a hard life and they can only get certain jobs

04:28:08.260 because of their situation and it ends up being really hard

04:28:12.540 and sometimes it's with women who just like got pregnant on purpose you know it's actually funny

04:28:20.520 this would this would actually convince a lot of men to come to the pro-choice side

04:28:24.760 if the pro-choicers were like hey listen um we want to bring men over to being pro-choice

04:28:32.440 one of the ways we're going to do that is we're going to propose legislation

04:28:36.040 to give men an option to escape responsibility.

04:28:41.160 That would bring over some men's rights people for sure.

04:28:43.740 I think that men and women should just be careful about who they have sex with

04:28:47.680 and we shouldn't have hookup culture and eliminate.

04:28:50.020 We can agree with that.

04:28:51.260 Agreed.

04:28:51.880 Unwanted pregnancies are going to occur on the woman and the man side.

04:28:56.180 Yeah.

04:28:56.320 And so from that perspective, there should be something,

04:28:59.400 if we're going to live in a world that she would like to see it in

04:29:02.320 or like to see it as, where abortion is just illegal across the board,

04:29:07.060 I think the equitable thing is to allow men to escape responsibility financially.

04:29:13.060 Okay, but do you think, Brian, if a man gets a woman pregnant

04:29:16.640 and then he says, right, I don't want nothing to do with it, fair enough,

04:29:19.980 do you think that would then push her for an abortion?

04:29:23.160 Yeah.

04:29:24.160 Because she won't have the support there.

04:29:28.360 Possibly, sure.

04:29:29.300 Yeah, then that would maybe increase abortion, no?

04:29:32.320 maybe uh that might be that might be a consequence of that yeah but my perspective is i'm engaging

04:29:38.600 with the worldview where abortion is legal yeah right so if abortion is legal then i would work

04:29:45.040 within that framework to make things more tenable for men and like but i wouldn't i would never

04:29:51.220 argue for example yeah i would i wouldn't argue so if i was arguing a pro-life uh nation yeah where

04:29:59.960 abortion was illegal, it would be untenable for me to be like, well, men should be able to not

04:30:04.920 pay child support. If abortion is completely illegal across the board, men are on the hook

04:30:13.680 for child support if she opts to keep the child. That's how it is. Okay. So I have something that

04:30:19.460 might be offensive, but this is a true thing too. Let's say that the woman is going to have the

04:30:25.340 baby and then she's going to put the baby up for adoption, or maybe the husband is not a good fit

04:30:29.460 Or she's not a good fit

04:30:30.740 Or they're just not good parents

04:30:32.080 You're going to bring the baby into this world

04:30:34.740 And they're going to be

04:30:36.100 With like drug addict parents

04:30:38.180 Or be fostered and passed around

04:30:40.320 Through foster care their whole life

04:30:41.700 Like what if you just don't have

04:30:44.660 The loving home for it

04:30:47.080 And it's like then you're bringing this child

04:30:48.960 Into this dreadful world

04:30:50.660 I think infant children get adopted pretty easily

04:30:52.880 There's like a million families that are always looking for infants

04:30:55.440 And it's probably more so going to be

04:30:57.160 In a dream world

04:30:58.000 you can't get an abortion determining that because every every single baby god has a plan

04:31:04.180 and a purpose yeah i'm pretty sure all newborns get adopted and they do they get adopted very

04:31:08.100 let's go back to the original thing so the original thing was you kind of have to go

04:31:13.340 through a rigorous process it's the okay okay okay it is kind of rigorous um let's but it's

04:31:19.020 not it's not a good reason stop stop stop women are oppressed in the usa i mean we went to the

04:31:24.240 abortion thing we lingered on that longer than i would have liked um besides abortion are women

04:31:29.140 oppressed in the usa in any other way that's for you chase i mean i think basically back to what i

04:31:37.500 was saying earlier like when the majority holders of um high income positions and positions of

04:31:46.380 uh in government are held by men then yes i do think that rules are typically skewed to

04:31:53.140 favor men over women. So in a way, yes. In a way, I think that, um, that does cause some

04:32:02.680 oppression. Oppression. Well, I mean, so you're talking about the glass ceiling as it's so called.

04:32:09.880 So the glass ceiling up top, the ceiling up top, uh, you know, women have mid tier jobs,

04:32:17.220 but they don't have like those, many of them are excluded from getting those top executive

04:32:24.580 positions, the positions of power, CEOs, VPs, et cetera, which I mean, they can get, but you're

04:32:31.940 saying less likely to get. Wouldn't we then have to balance this with the fact that there's something

04:32:38.680 similar to this, but on the opposite side of the spectrum, the glass seller. So while it might be

04:32:44.980 true uh that men occupy the supposed best positions the highest paid the most powerful positions

04:32:52.840 men also occupy the worst positions whereas you have far more women in the middle who have kind

04:33:00.740 of like pretty comfortable jobs and air-conditioned office whereas it's men who are doing the dangerous

04:33:06.840 dirty difficult work and we call this the glass cellar well okay fine the of the people who have

04:33:15.340 the best jobs those are men of the people who have the worst jobs also men that's right so

04:33:21.700 kind of a trade-off here the plumber the guy who's wading through shit literally the the guys

04:33:29.400 who are going into the sewers who are covered in bugs who are out when it's freezing at 4 a.m

04:33:34.900 fixing something it's it's men so okay fine men have the better jobs they also have the worst jobs

04:33:41.180 is that evidence of men's oppression that men have worse jobs in society we've created a societal

04:33:48.520 structure where men have the worst jobs and women are sort of protected in the middle and women

04:33:55.460 don't have the worst jobs um i mean i think that i don't think that that's a gender question i think

04:34:06.080 that's more of a socio-economic question socio-economic yeah like but if wait hold on

04:34:12.200 if if you're a man and you're not able to get um higher education which we do need these jobs but

04:34:21.360 if you're not able to get higher education then that's also a barrier to entry to you so they're

04:34:26.760 not able to get the higher paying jobs and they're in these jobs because they did not have access to

04:34:32.460 or didn't have the desire to get higher education i'm confused i don't think that's a man or woman

04:34:37.220 problem but wait wait really quick if if your argument is well hold on 80 of ceos are men

04:34:45.580 90 percent of ceos are men well if 90 percent of electricians and plumbers and sewer workers and

04:34:54.420 men who are working dirty disgusting dangerous jobs if 90 percent of those are men then it's

04:35:02.040 definitely gendered because socioeconomically like we're going to see about a 50 50 split like

04:35:09.920 you're gonna see like there's not like a socio-economic difference between men and women

04:35:16.240 so if it's purely socio-economic you'd expect to see equal participation in those jobs by women who

04:35:24.700 share the same socio-economic level as those men so it's gender it is gendered because i mean

04:35:33.060 it's definitely gendered

04:35:35.500 I would be curious to hear

04:35:39.460 other people's opinions on this question

04:35:41.200 I mean I think we're definitely shifting out of it

04:35:43.640 like I think women are

04:35:45.440 starting to branch into

04:35:47.640 jobs like

04:35:49.100 that men used to be for men

04:35:51.060 so I think it's another thing

04:35:52.860 I don't want all the jobs that men do

04:35:55.520 but it's not a bad thing

04:35:56.520 people are just becoming more curious

04:35:59.640 if you look at the most

04:36:01.340 egalitarian societies you look at like the scandinavian countries sweden norway finland

04:36:06.780 denmark etc what's that i said i was about to agree with you it's separated when they actually

04:36:12.260 the more egalitarian and equal and feminist the the nation is the more the women don't do those

04:36:18.840 the more that like the the more that you see women going into like traditionally female fields

04:36:24.680 uh you you see them more so aligning with like gender expectations as it relates to jobs whereas

04:36:32.960 like if you look at places where you have less of that that's when you see like the female engineers

04:36:37.880 and so forth and this kind of thing i'll say it's all like you've got law in place to like

04:36:43.460 discrimination on the basis of sex so there's not actually nothing stopping a woman from going to

04:36:48.420 apply for the job and if she can do the job then she probably will get hired yeah well that's what

04:36:54.000 i'm saying is that when the person who makes the decisions on whether or not they get the job

04:36:58.400 is somebody is a man they're typically gonna like you typically want to work with people that are

04:37:03.600 like you so they'll pick somebody who's like them like a man if that does get found then she has the

04:37:08.020 law on her side to sue for discrimination that'd be such a hard thing to you know it's a hard thing

04:37:12.540 to prove so and i mean it's not the hr woman who is the decider of who's the ceo of something it's

04:37:20.640 typically at least to my understanding it's the person who's at the top decides who will take

04:37:26.580 their place so and when it comes to jobs such as the jobs that require more strength and

04:37:38.900 a bigger person I mean that's why men do those jobs because men are just bigger and stronger

04:37:45.760 than women inherently like for the most part but women also don't want to take those jobs either

04:37:52.120 yeah i was about to say that they don't want to be like you have working in the sewer and

04:37:55.600 minors you know so most of the time women even if they like are afforded the opportunity to get the

04:38:00.740 job they still don't want them but is that proof that women are not oppressed like i i don't

04:38:05.720 understand how that is well oppression like lack of access right so like are they are they being

04:38:10.920 like discriminated against or are they unable to obtain access to these positions and the answer

04:38:15.900 is no they can they can obtain if they wanted to go wait in the sewer and you know do underwater

04:38:22.340 welding for example we I mean I can just speak for myself and I think a lot of women we don't

04:38:27.340 want to take those jobs right so I think I think there's oppressive things in society like there's

04:38:33.060 there's elements of society that's oppressive but I don't think in general in the United States at

04:38:37.880 or, like, Western culture that women are oppressed.

04:38:40.180 Yeah, I think if you look at somewhere, like, what's going on in Afghanistan,

04:38:43.400 that is a woman that is oppressed, but not here.

04:38:47.060 And, obviously, I do not want a lot of male jobs.

04:38:49.760 Is there anything else?

04:38:50.900 Any other ways women are oppressed?

04:38:52.560 And then I have some group questions coming up.

04:38:55.080 I think we can move on from the subject.

04:38:57.980 No other comments.

04:38:58.940 Okay, all right.

04:39:00.200 Here, I'm waiting for Amelia to return,

04:39:04.140 and then we've got some group questions coming up once everyone is back

04:39:07.640 at the table let me see here uh okay uh here let's do let's do a little fun one here let's

04:39:16.600 do a fun one fun yeah fun fun ish i guess wake us up on the scale of zero to ten rate your own

04:39:23.940 looks oh here we go this isn't fun look at his face my my editor if you're watching include the

04:39:34.340 groaning oh no yeah include the groaning please include the groaning um all right so um let's

04:39:42.180 hold on before you guys answer let me just look at one thing here um

04:39:47.540 okay well uh i want to start with you go ahead you go first oh sorry um say it like this face

04:40:01.660 if you're a 10 face 10 body 10 so give a face rating give a body rating starting with you

04:40:08.180 face 10 body 10 and emotionally a 10 because i love myself

04:40:12.680 everybody should love themselves all right um let's start with you oh goodness uh face six

04:40:25.520 body five all right six five what about you i would say face six and i would say body six too

04:40:33.580 next under under rating so hard wait really quick uh say that into the mic go ahead you guys are

04:40:39.620 going way too low too too low what what is she way above six is she a 10 for sure okay all right

04:40:46.960 go ahead and you do face seven and a half body seven and a half okay next um i think

04:40:54.940 Can you posture up?

04:40:56.400 You're like, you're hiding.

04:40:58.020 I'm a short person, Brian.

04:40:59.260 It's all good.

04:40:59.700 Go ahead.

04:41:00.600 Do you have a seat booster?

04:41:02.260 Yeah, but I'm only five ones.

04:41:03.920 Hey, Tiffany, close one door, please.

04:41:05.460 The back door.

04:41:06.380 I probably, I don't ever rate myself.

04:41:09.460 I think it's ridiculous, but I guess a four and a four.

04:41:13.980 Do me one favor.

04:41:15.060 Let me have you tilt your mic down a bit.

04:41:19.000 A bit more?

04:41:21.380 Okay.

04:41:22.400 Go ahead and rate yourself again.

04:41:23.620 Go ahead.

04:41:24.060 I said 4 and a 4.

04:41:25.700 Okay.

04:41:25.960 What about you?

04:41:27.360 I would say face between a 6.5 and 7, and body probably 6.5.

04:41:32.400 Okay.

04:41:33.100 You again?

04:41:34.400 10.

04:41:36.120 Say face, body.

04:41:38.140 All of it is a 10.

04:41:39.580 Face, body.

04:41:41.260 Say face.

04:41:42.480 Face 10, body 10.

04:41:44.320 Okay.

04:41:45.060 Next.

04:41:46.540 Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.

04:41:48.240 I don't know.

04:41:48.900 Face 3, 2, 2.5.

04:41:51.200 No.

04:41:51.520 Body 4, 5.

04:41:53.000 No way.

04:41:53.580 Next.

04:41:54.060 i i personally hate this question too okay um i'll scoot to the table a bit and get on the mic

04:42:00.540 yes sir um body i feel like i've worked so hard i've taught it i could do it in my sleep

04:42:12.540 and i'm strong and i'm healthy so i appreciate my vessel so maybe like a nine and face body so

04:42:21.520 give a face rating body rating face um i'm grateful for my eyes and i don't know a seven

04:42:31.160 ten what do you really want to say seven oh okay seven face i can so i don't like the whole rating

04:42:38.660 scale to begin okay can you just say face it feels a little vapid but okay face seven body nine

04:42:44.260 vapid i'm coming back to that we're all tens don't like uh so sorry face can you repeat it

04:42:50.920 one more time seven no face face seven body body nine all right next i don't know face five and a

04:43:02.400 half six body baby fat uh right now three okay all right um so we got the two highest we got

04:43:11.500 10 10 7.5 7.5 let's just talk to the 10 here for a moment we got chase chase she's a she's a 10

04:43:19.780 uh all right um can you tell me a woman who you think is a 10 like a celebrity that we know we

04:43:27.000 all know of you know it could be Megan Fox Megan Fox Selma Hayek Angelina Jolie oh my gosh Tate

04:43:34.620 McRae Alex Earle oh my gosh okay so they're they're tens yeah are you Marie Antoinette

04:43:41.260 are you as attractive as them well sure why not I'd say so do you think you're as good looking

04:43:52.580 as they are I just don't really compare myself to other people because I think that beauty is

04:43:58.100 like it doesn't there's not just one standard of beauty all the women that I named are so

04:44:02.760 different but they're so beautiful it's like it's not there's no comparison it's like saying

04:44:07.760 that i can't like apples just because i like oranges i like apples and oranges the same

04:44:12.320 the same right so beauty beauty is subjective but the subjective uh the subjective measurements

04:44:20.620 are going to be very much based on objective measurements she is objectively gorgeous this is

04:44:28.880 i'd say well nobody's objectively you don't think so no you would be subjectively subjectively but

04:44:35.560 if it's a scale from one to 10 that you're on who's that would still be subjective but you're

04:44:40.260 asking me subjectively gorgeous you're asking me for my opinion and my opinion is that i'm not

04:44:44.980 comparing myself to these women because there's no need to oh okay because they're all gorgeous

04:44:50.460 why should i tell me a guy who's a 10 oh jacob alordi the guy who plays smith jared in sex in

04:44:57.240 the city i don't know his name but he's so hot um the gucci model guy oh yeah yeah there's a lot

04:45:04.600 of beautiful oh wait wait so i actually this is gonna sound lame as fuck i watched sex in the

04:45:10.800 city for research purposes yeah put it out there about a year i think a year ago something like

04:45:15.980 that and um the guy who were talking smith jerry is that his name in the show his name was jerry

04:45:22.140 jerry and samantha changed it because she's a genius pr so he was like this young stud good

04:45:27.820 looking dude and she's like what they're in their 40s or something samantha's hot too though

04:45:32.340 not compared to smith jared okay now but here's who cares about the the age gap that's not my

04:45:40.660 concern my concern is she treated that poor guy fucking terribly she got him a career

04:45:46.000 she made his career she cheated on him she cheated on him and fucked some like rant not

04:45:54.640 not random that was really shitty that was he went to like a party with her and she's being a

04:45:59.460 fucking piece of shit and went

04:46:01.340 while he was at the party went up with

04:46:03.460 another dude fucked him

04:46:05.040 came down now he's kind of being a simp

04:46:07.660 and he takes her back bro

04:46:09.360 bro it's so fucking

04:46:11.720 oh sex in the city is terrible

04:46:13.360 women in men's fields

04:46:14.480 which speaking of

04:46:17.380 speaking of sex in the city

04:46:18.600 I was looking on your Instagram at the very bottom

04:46:21.460 why do you have all this sex in the city

04:46:23.680 stuff on your Instagram because I was obsessed

04:46:25.800 and I also red flag

04:46:27.400 Red flag of the fucking century.

04:46:30.840 I met Sarah Jessica Parker at the Short Hills Mall in New Jersey.

04:46:33.660 If a girl, like, idolizes the fictional Sex and the City characters, holy fuck.

04:46:40.580 Well, I didn't say idolize them.

04:46:41.920 I say I like the show.

04:46:43.900 For a woman to like that show, there's some degree of I'm going to be a whore now.

04:46:51.720 What?

04:46:52.160 There's some degree of that.

04:46:54.480 No.

04:46:55.220 What's your favorite show, Brian?

04:46:57.400 uh i don't um breaking bad's pretty good so you're a drug dealer you're right i am

04:47:04.480 this is just this is like my uh my car wash but i instead of that all the tts's that's just

04:47:13.980 that's me laundering you're actually heisting all the ladies yeah yeah all the tts all the tts that

04:47:20.500 comes through pasty george grid one um all the people tonight it's all just me laundering my

04:47:26.280 meth money well i i was i was wondering about that yeah but i haven't seen pasty george at all

04:47:32.540 where is he yeah where the fuck are you pasty george does he really wear pasties no no his

04:47:39.040 name oh dang um okay so sex is amazing a girl who's into sex in the city

04:47:48.880 like you relate to that lifestyle and these girls are just like there's a couple quotes from it that

04:47:56.160 i can't recall but like they're basically just very much on board with promiscuity and sleeping

04:48:00.980 around and dating um multiple men and it's just like that's not a good influence on women well i

04:48:07.600 think that i think that if you're going to knock women for being promiscuous then you should also

04:48:13.760 hold yourself to the same standard so i think promiscuity in men is bad too okay good and then

04:48:19.220 by that it's worse worse than women though by that standard then you liking breaking bad would

04:48:24.080 make you a drug dealer. So just because I like a show where women are being promiscuous doesn't

04:48:28.680 make me a promiscuous woman. Hold on. There's a bit of a difference here. So the sex and sex in

04:48:35.160 the city, the entire content of that show is almost, no, it's all relationship and dating

04:48:44.040 based. It's like, that's the, the theme of the show. Breaking bad operates in a completely

04:48:49.500 different fictional universe like it's it's not about dating it's not it has nothing to do with

04:48:55.580 it's about drugs dating and relationships about having cancer yeah but like there's a difference

04:48:59.740 like okay i don't think it your counter to me doesn't really map on that great uh i would

04:49:08.000 argue a woman who like is a fan of sex in the city now it's not a guarantee but i think she's

04:49:13.520 going to have a bit more lax perspective on on casual sex if you're a fan of sex in the city

04:49:20.080 probably a bit cooler sexual sex you might be more promiscuous um it's not it's not guaranteed

04:49:27.060 whereas like somebody watches breaking bad you're not going to map on quite as well as like well

04:49:34.060 walter white has cancer and is a drug dealer therefore if you get cancer you're going to

04:49:38.260 become a drug dealer or you're just going to become a drug dealer period it doesn't quite

04:49:42.020 map on that way yeah well i feel like you're proving my point it's like just because i watch

04:49:47.940 a tv show about something doesn't make me that way i can like something can i ask you a question

04:49:53.180 if i watch violent porn do you think when i'm having sexual sex with a woman i'm more likely

04:49:58.160 to um that's different pornography is different than a show i watch my 600 pound life and it

04:50:03.980 doesn't mean that i'm like 600 pounds you know it doesn't mean that i go and i but okay all right

04:50:09.240 You know, I understand what you're saying.

04:50:10.600 So it doesn't, it's not a guarantee that if a woman watches sex in the city, that she's

04:50:15.020 promiscuous or a slut or however you'd frame it.

04:50:18.000 However, I think someone's interests in something can be, or provide some degree of insight

04:50:25.300 into their psyche.

04:50:27.720 And I do think that women who are like big fans of sex in the city, there's some degree

04:50:33.620 of relation there.

04:50:34.840 and i think you can it doesn't look you could be a virgin and watch sex in the city like and find

04:50:40.920 it entertaining of course uh let's not talk about your la um boy toy or whatever um wow

04:50:50.160 okay um i just think there you can infer certain things about somebody based on the content that

04:51:00.540 Well, my ex's favorite show was Breaking Bad, and now he's incarcerated, so coincident.

04:51:04.880 You know what?

04:51:05.500 There you go.

04:51:06.120 Snap.

04:51:07.380 Yeah, sorry, Dad.

04:51:08.860 But you know what?

04:51:09.680 I don't think he's going to see this.

04:51:10.320 I'd be willing to say, I bet that of the people, what?

04:51:16.260 Nothing.

04:51:16.880 Oh, sorry, Dad?

04:51:18.240 No.

04:51:18.600 Oh, no.

04:51:19.220 Sorry, sorry.

04:51:19.740 Just keep going.

04:51:20.980 I'm sorry.

04:51:23.220 You guys ratted out your dad for selling meth or something?

04:51:26.580 No, no, no.

04:51:27.040 He didn't do that.

04:51:27.800 It's the previous one.

04:51:28.640 I just said my ex, I didn't say my ex-husband.

04:51:30.800 She's like, sorry, dad.

04:51:31.840 I didn't say who.

04:51:32.580 I'm sorry.

04:51:34.300 So I wouldn't be surprised, though, if some men, after having watched Breaking Bad, did attempt to make meth.

04:51:44.160 Like it's not zero.

04:51:46.600 It's not zero, you know?

04:51:48.400 So, I mean, there's definitely going to be some degree of influence.

04:51:51.060 That's crazy.

04:51:52.200 Do you think there's still, do you think there's parameters on ChatGPT on if they can tell us how to make meth?

04:51:58.640 Or do you think that you could ask Chachi BT that and it would tell you?

04:52:01.720 He won't tell you.

04:52:02.340 There's probably.

04:52:03.660 I'm sure.

04:52:04.560 Because remember, it's just a bunching of information.

04:52:07.480 I have a very curious mind.

04:52:08.780 Probably actually.

04:52:10.160 And I go down to AI.

04:52:12.820 There's definitely guardrails on that.

04:52:15.420 Okay.

04:52:15.900 A guy who's a 10, you said Jacob Polorti.

04:52:18.200 All right.

04:52:19.340 Is that your league, Jacob Polorti?

04:52:22.240 I mean, my league is whatever I decide to settle for.

04:52:25.620 Settle?

04:52:26.860 If I don't settle unless I get Jacob Elordi, then yeah, that's in my league.

04:52:30.580 Okay.

04:52:31.220 Jacob Elordi, if you're listening.

04:52:33.100 Oh, boy.

04:52:33.860 I'm single.

04:52:36.400 I will.

04:52:37.940 All right.

04:52:39.780 What about your little L.A. boy toy?

04:52:43.720 He's fine.

04:52:45.180 It's casual.

04:52:45.560 How's he going to feel?

04:52:46.960 It's casual.

04:52:47.580 I just said it was casual.

04:52:48.820 All right, it's casual.

04:52:50.560 But so you arrive in L.A.

04:52:54.160 You've been here for just a couple days.

04:52:55.500 i already knew him yeah but like you live you live in hawaii that's a that's long is this a

04:53:03.060 guy you're gonna be long term with we actually got married last night no i'm just kidding oh

04:53:09.020 oh my gosh oh my god my heart like you might want to you're you are objecting a bit to my

04:53:16.740 my categorization of you know you're a fan of sex in the city and you know can we infer anything

04:53:23.860 off of that. But I mean, we have in recent history, your own self confessed, I guess

04:53:31.820 we could frame it. Some dude you're not in a relationship with who seems like there's

04:53:37.720 no long-term prospects. You're just in LA. Maybe you guys fucked before. You're not in

04:53:43.200 a relationship with this guy. Within two or three days of coming to LA, you got some dude

04:53:47.240 who you can fuck in LA is, does this comport with a woman who's like, ah, I'm the long

04:53:54.520 term girl.

04:53:56.000 They went on a date.

04:53:57.380 Yeah.

04:53:58.140 It was a date.

04:53:59.780 I'm okay.

04:54:00.780 This proves my point.

04:54:02.100 This is, this is slut shaming just because it's not just because you hook up with somebody

04:54:07.560 doesn't mean that you're promiscuous.

04:54:09.380 And sometimes you just, you girls have needs.

04:54:14.180 You just, you just what?

04:54:15.860 you just want to have fun what what do you mean girls have needs too when when brian when's the

04:54:20.700 last time that you hooked up with somebody casually when's the last time i hooked up

04:54:24.960 with someone casually i don't do casual if i have sex with a woman i'm going to pursue things long

04:54:30.960 term she asked you when when's the last time i had uh i don't uh i don't disclose certain

04:54:39.080 relationship things related to such a cop-out but i'm a bit confused what were you saying before

04:54:45.960 well i mean i think that

04:54:48.360 you said women had knee women have needs yeah sometimes you just need to fight yeah have needs

04:54:58.420 i brought my vibe i'm not gonna be i'm not gonna be crude about it but but so this would seem to

04:55:04.300 kind of bolster my position of hmm women who consume certain kind of content it can maybe

04:55:11.040 tell you something about how they approach relationships how they approach sex and they

04:55:16.180 view it more casually whereas I don't view it casually though so I'm like you got off an

04:55:22.860 airplane this is a guy who did you fuck him in Hawaii or what no we did not so this is the first

04:55:28.300 time you guys had sex okay i don't know why we have to keep harping on this well you want to

04:55:37.720 you want to counter my next question you want to counter my sex in the city thing but it seems like

04:55:43.280 you're kind of sex la major city just sex in the city just because you hook up with somebody one

04:55:49.400 time that you've gone on a few dates with does it make you a promiscuous person like it's been

04:55:54.340 a little while. Are you intending to be in a relationship with him? I don't think that it's

04:56:00.020 wrong to have a special friend sometimes. Can you answer the question? Are you planning to be in a

04:56:04.860 relationship with him? He's just my special friend. Right. So, I mean, I would say that it is

04:56:08.880 promiscuous if you have sex with somebody who you aren't intending to at least pursue something

04:56:16.820 like long-term with them. You've already assessed this guy as not long-term potential, it sounds

04:56:23.080 like you might want to have fun with them keep them around for a bit but i think it meets the

04:56:29.200 definition of promiscuity what is the definition yeah let's let's that's like a google that

04:56:34.900 because i don't know if it technically counts as promiscuity i mean i'll google it uh let's see

04:56:42.360 promiscuity engaging in frequent casual or indiscriminate sexual relationships

04:56:50.540 with multiple partners without forming long-term exclusive commitments.

04:56:58.200 So you might be able to bang us up on the multiple partners front,

04:57:01.180 although, I mean, I don't know if you said they're too close.

04:57:05.040 I haven't had multiple partners.

04:57:06.600 Didn't you say they were like, oh, no, you were joking about your cats or something?

04:57:09.960 Yeah.

04:57:11.340 Peter and Henry.

04:57:12.980 Okay, so I don't know if I'm going to add.

04:57:16.380 Peter and Henry.

04:57:17.080 look Brian is like whatever literally whatever um it's just like useless uh prattle but um

04:57:28.760 prior to this guy when was the last time you were intimate or knowledge with a guy

04:57:34.740 I don't really want to answer that because it's going to prove my point no because it's not but

04:57:41.280 i don't remember it's been it's probably been over a month um so long

04:57:46.540 so september i don't know that's why i don't want to answer come on how i'm sorry if you're

04:57:54.940 not being promiscuous you should have a decent timeline of like who you've slept with in the

04:58:02.560 past year if you've forgotten that's not it's not saying that i'm not saying i forgot i'm saying

04:58:11.160 that I am. You said you don't know. I'm saying I'm declining to answer the question. But if you

04:58:16.660 hadn't been sexually active with another man recently, I think you would just say, oh, it's

04:58:22.280 been like three months, six months or whatever. Usually a decline to answer means some guy was

04:58:28.640 balls deep in you a month ago. You declined to answer too. So was a guy balls deep in you a month

04:58:34.920 Oh no, such a term.

04:58:37.900 Well, you may have a compelling argument to call me a hypocrite, but let's engage with you.

04:58:44.240 Yeah, don't be like Elliot.

04:58:45.440 Well, even if I'm a hypocrite, is what I'm saying wrong?

04:58:50.420 No, yeah.

04:58:53.760 I mean, that's a whole other conversation of adult sex.

04:58:56.000 This is a private conversation between myself, Peter, and Heather.

04:58:59.640 You just said you got smashed out by some dude in LA.

04:59:02.620 She never said that.

04:59:03.980 She did say that.

04:59:04.920 And that's a conversation between myself and I, because Peter and Henry were not there.

04:59:11.920 Okay.

04:59:13.780 Oh, boy.

04:59:14.780 Oh, boy.

04:59:17.120 Okay.

04:59:19.120 Well, okay, you're a 10.

04:59:21.480 Congrats, I guess.

04:59:22.880 Thank you for agreeing.

04:59:25.160 Well, I don't really agree.

04:59:29.180 But I think you're attractive, but I don't think you're a 10.

04:59:32.560 let's see if there's anyone else

04:59:34.560 I don't think any woman

04:59:38.520 here is a 10

04:59:39.120 but only one of you

04:59:42.340 rated yourself a 10

04:59:43.440 now you said it's a vapid question

04:59:45.500 let's go into that, why is it vapid?

04:59:47.880 just the whole scale

04:59:49.840 1 to 10

04:59:51.020 the whole scale thing of 1 to 10

04:59:54.840 and rating yourself

04:59:56.200 I think there is a difference

04:59:58.920 between appreciating yourself

05:00:00.660 but then, like, rating it on this vapid scale of, like, I'm so hot.

05:00:04.960 When you say vapid, what do you mean by vapid?

05:00:06.740 Like, there's no depth.

05:00:09.200 It's just air in the head.

05:00:10.780 And are you a woman of depth?

05:00:12.940 Yeah, I think so.

05:00:15.540 You wouldn't describe yourself as shallow?

05:00:17.820 No, I wouldn't.

05:00:18.740 Or superficial?

05:00:19.380 No.

05:00:20.200 Do you have any plastic surgery?

05:00:22.940 Yeah.

05:00:23.880 Can you list the plastic surgery you have?

05:00:25.520 I will not.

05:00:27.000 That's not even particularly invasive, but, well, you have lip filler.

05:00:30.660 right no come on let's not i did something else but i'm not gonna say lip flip i'm not gonna tell

05:00:36.500 you why would it why would you there's lip flips there's lip filler i did do something but i'm not

05:00:43.640 gonna tell you what you have done some cosmetic procedure to your lips listen first of all you're

05:00:49.960 you're going off course of what i'm trying to say i'm engaging with you on the vapid claim so you

05:00:55.380 When you judge me

05:00:57.580 You think that I have no depth

05:00:59.120 And that I'm shallow

05:00:59.900 I haven't gotten there yet

05:01:02.080 I haven't made that claim

05:01:03.160 And you know

05:01:03.440 You never asked me

05:01:04.300 What I did for my profession

05:01:05.500 That didn't happen

05:01:08.720 In our first go round

05:01:10.140 I'm not sure how

05:01:11.320 That would be relevant

05:01:12.120 But the duty's on you

05:01:14.100 The duty is on you

05:01:15.340 I do hospice

05:01:16.380 I take care of elderly people

05:01:17.700 What does that have to do

05:01:18.420 With anything

05:01:18.880 I have a dog business

05:01:19.300 What does that have to do

05:01:20.260 With anything

05:01:20.560 I guide with my heart

05:01:21.500 Relevance

05:01:22.020 Objection

05:01:22.680 Relevance

05:01:23.420 Yeah

05:01:24.120 I'm a fucking attorney

05:01:24.900 objection relevance humanity what does okay the looks rating thing related to physical looks you

05:01:33.800 said it's vapid i don't like it do you think women who get plastic surgery are vapid or not

05:01:38.100 um not necessarily i mean it's your choice you hold on you're so preoccupied with your appearance

05:01:45.200 you're going to get injections or surgical incisions into your otherwise healthy body tissue

05:01:51.740 to vapidly

05:01:54.220 increase your...

05:01:55.960 Or just preserve. Preserve?

05:01:58.080 Yeah. And that's okay.

05:01:59.900 I mean, it's no different than going to the gym.

05:02:01.320 Well, it's actually causing skin damage.

05:02:03.980 It's no different than

05:02:05.840 taking supplements, going to the gym.

05:02:08.040 It's completely different than going to the gym

05:02:09.920 and taking supplements. Not necessarily.

05:02:11.900 Getting injections, injecting

05:02:14.000 toxins that freeze your face or whatever.

05:02:16.200 The peptides you're against. What does that have to do?

05:02:18.680 Objection relevance.

05:02:20.040 They're injections from the gray market.

05:02:21.740 uh when you when we're talking about injections i'm referring to cosmetic injections and stuff

05:02:29.040 if if injections well hold on people get like iv injections i don't object to iv injections

05:02:35.860 i object to cosmetic injections if there's like a peptide that's being that that has a cosmetic

05:02:42.060 aesthetic impact then perhaps i might object to it but what is the peptide that you think that

05:02:47.780 girls who do self-care self-maintenance you think that that's frowned upon it depends specifically

05:02:56.780 what but i would certainly categorize women who do i mean your framing's quite is quite of a spin

05:03:03.580 i certainly would categorize botox and lip filler or cosmetic procedures as vapid

05:03:10.080 okay well you're entitled to your own choice

05:03:14.540 i don't think it makes girls vapid um well so what do you mean by vapid let's i can google it

05:03:25.320 if you want what do you mean by vapid let's like i think that vapid is when uh there's not a lot

05:03:30.700 of depth you're it's airspace in the head it's like you're operating from a very shallow place

05:03:38.140 There's a couple different definitions here

05:03:41.180 Let me pull up Merriam-Webster

05:03:43.060 And I don't think that

05:03:46.060 I would qualify myself as such

05:03:48.760 I can attest to your depth, Megan

05:03:54.180 Thank you

05:03:55.160 Lacking flavor, zest, interest, animation, or spirit

05:04:07.760 But I don't think that's what either of us mean when we're talking about vapid.

05:04:13.720 I'm seeing if maybe I have the wrong.

05:04:17.760 I always think of like lacking substance, but I don't.

05:04:21.080 Yeah, I don't.

05:04:22.180 Yeah.

05:04:22.780 But someone can someone can someone who is overly preoccupied.

05:04:26.980 Can someone who is overly preoccupied with their physical appearance that in and of itself?

05:04:32.740 Can that be vapid?

05:04:35.580 Well, sure.

05:04:36.200 but I think I'm talking on more of

05:04:39.280 a character

05:04:40.460 like who we are as humans

05:04:42.940 what we're interested in

05:04:44.820 who we are, what we represent

05:04:46.180 much more than the surface layer

05:04:48.720 aesthetics of our appearance

05:04:50.400 and you can be vain with good character

05:04:52.480 hold on

05:04:54.520 are we vain or are we vain?

05:04:56.600 I am vain, that I will admit

05:04:59.000 they're the same thing almost

05:05:00.340 I am vain

05:05:01.720 but I don't think that that

05:05:04.860 makes me shallow

05:05:05.880 And I definitely don't go around

05:05:08.840 Telling myself

05:05:11.860 That I'm on a 1 to 10

05:05:13.760 Scale

05:05:14.500 You know what I mean?

05:05:18.300 Okay

05:05:18.820 Does that make sense?

05:05:21.480 Not really

05:05:21.960 The 1 to 10 rating, you say you hate it

05:05:25.520 Is that correct?

05:05:26.360 I don't like it

05:05:27.600 Hate that question

05:05:30.180 Why?

05:05:31.780 Just a vapid thing? Is there more?

05:05:33.160 It just feels very superficial

05:05:35.840 Very superficial.

05:05:36.860 Okay.

05:05:37.720 I can work better with superficial.

05:05:40.460 So superficial, now we can definitely tackle plastic surgery, cosmetic procedures.

05:05:46.380 But that's our choice.

05:05:49.200 Your choice to be superficial.

05:05:51.000 I agree.

05:05:51.580 But what makes it so superficial if it's something that I want to do for myself?

05:05:56.180 Well, whether or not something is determined to be superficial has nothing to do with whether you choose to do it for yourself or not.

05:06:04.980 it's the content of what you're actually doing and so um i would agree somebody so i think it's

05:06:13.060 okay to there's a thing that's so fucked up too though is like when men don't know don't know

05:06:18.960 what what you do in your beauty stuff uh-huh they love it and if they don't when they do know

05:06:24.900 they have so many opinions about it it's not deceiving it's plastic surgery and cause like

05:06:31.320 cosmetic use is absolutely deceiving otherwise you wouldn't wear it i'm sorry i mean men do it

05:06:36.420 too they get hair transplants they do the whole thing too just in different ways uh what's the

05:06:40.920 difference and they don't go around talking about it well i i mean i would i would agree with you

05:06:48.260 the thing is is that with the hair transplant thing and men are doing all kinds of well this

05:06:54.100 would just be an appeal to hypocrisy so i mean if you're willing to grant that women who do

05:06:59.140 uh plastic surgery and botox and all these cosmetic procedures and makeup and all this

05:07:03.500 shit i mean i can't speak for all women i'm speaking for myself right but so you if you're

05:07:08.520 going to say well men do that stuff too then are you just are you just basically forfeiting the

05:07:14.680 argument and being like it is superficial but men do it too well it kind of goes then i'll just

05:07:19.860 agree with you and you're just going to lose the argument then no i think if a man is balding and

05:07:25.000 he wants to get a hair transplant, let him do it. If a woman has children or a woman had great tits

05:07:30.480 and lost her tits and she wants to get a boob job, do it. Yeah. But you would also say, you'd

05:07:34.740 also say a 19 year old who has normal, hold on, stop, stop, stop, stop. But you can point to these

05:07:41.600 instances where, okay, the woman, her boobs are sagging. She's getting older. She had kids. She

05:07:45.960 was breastfeeding. The majority of women who get breast implants, it's not the 40 year old mom who

05:07:54.500 you know wants to you know fix something as to how it used to be it's the woman who has never

05:08:01.260 had children and she purely wants it i mean you can even argue the woman who's you know had kids

05:08:07.820 and the breasts are sagging or you know whatever it is that's also purely aesthetic and cosmetic

05:08:12.280 in nature but it's at least to some degree more justifiable than the 20 year old who otherwise

05:08:18.660 has healthy normal breast presentation that's healthy tissue that does not need to be cut into

05:08:25.220 and you place uh plastic toxic shit into her body why do we have to justify something that we want

05:08:32.120 like i i wouldn't want somebody to justify them wanting a lamborghini it's not a practical car

05:08:37.680 it doesn't you know it's it's just a want if somebody wants to have really perky great boobs

05:08:45.180 and look like the girls next door, then why not?

05:08:48.060 Why do we have to justify it?

05:08:49.140 Yeah, I can tell you why.

05:08:50.460 Because I don't, I'll answer that perfectly.

05:08:53.080 There's like 10 different ways I can tackle that.

05:08:55.320 The first is, I believe that the increase in plastic surgery

05:09:00.940 is certainly pronounced in the past 10 or 20 years.

05:09:04.580 We can perhaps trace it back.

05:09:06.260 I mean, it obviously started occurring before, say, the Kardashians.

05:09:09.760 But it's definitely become much more common for,

05:09:13.120 and the Kardashians have done a nightmare job as it relates to a lot of women, many of whom don't

05:09:21.580 have the finances to even pay for these various procedures that they've done. So a lot of damage

05:09:28.500 there. I don't want to live in a society. Now I can approach this from a selfish perspective. So

05:09:34.600 I would say if I one day have daughters, I don't want them to live in a society where they have

05:09:40.820 insecurities and feel compelled to go under the knife so that they can comport themselves with

05:09:46.820 societal beauty standards, many of which, you know, you might say it's men upholding these

05:09:53.840 beauty standards. I actually think a lot of it is women upholding these beauty standards.

05:09:58.140 So that's me being protective of my family and my future children. And women, even before plastic

05:10:04.660 surgery became super common, saying that like, I mean, it's become much more common, but it was

05:10:09.920 pretty much more rare in like 80s 90s then slowly increasing into 90s 2000s 2010s women have

05:10:19.400 already kind of have a lot of insecurities as it relates to their looks just could be weight

05:10:27.900 could be face stuff without like oh let's you know like in sports once somebody starts doing

05:10:34.040 steroids everyone has to start doing steroids otherwise they can't be competitive um women

05:10:39.440 are, we're already like doing a lot for their appearance and feeling insecure and feeling bad

05:10:44.180 about it or whatever. Now it's like, okay, now you need 10,000, 20,000, 30,000. You need to go

05:10:50.280 under the knife. You need to go under anesthesia, which every time you go under anesthesia comes

05:10:54.300 with a potential risk of death. Look, there are some cosmetic procedures like plastic surgery

05:11:00.480 originated. People had, uh, wounds from war and their half, their face was gone. And, uh, you

05:11:07.320 You know, there's severe deformities.

05:11:10.120 Plastic surgery was trying to bring back to normal.

05:11:14.040 A woman having A cups or B cups, that's normal.

05:11:17.860 That's normal healthy tissue.

05:11:20.200 That's within the range of normal presentation for women to have smaller breasts.

05:11:25.880 Or maybe there's one's a bit bigger than the other.

05:11:28.920 Maybe the shape or all kinds of different things.

05:11:33.260 That's normal.

05:11:34.600 That's healthy tissue.

05:11:35.360 I don't believe there's ever a medical indication absent like breast cancer and they have their breast tissue removed.

05:11:42.420 There's no medical indication for a woman to get a boob job.

05:11:48.000 There's no medical indication for it.

05:11:50.180 You're cutting into healthy tissue.

05:11:52.020 You're putting her under anesthesia.

05:11:55.060 Always a risk of death.

05:11:56.620 Anytime you go under anesthesia, spending thousands or tens of thousands of dollars, you might have to get revision surgeries.

05:12:03.180 I'm pretty sure I'll know who here has breast implants. You have breast implants, breast implants,

05:12:08.240 breast implants. Um, they can last long, but they don't last forever. Right. You got to go back

05:12:14.020 under the knife. I don't know. Was it 10, 20 years? It's over 10 years now. Okay, great. So,

05:12:19.560 I mean, look, even from a dating perspective, this is a potential financial liability. Oh,

05:12:24.420 okay. I got to pay for my wife's revision surgery or whatever. It's just like an extra,

05:12:29.340 hmm oh we could send timmy to college or we could get your titties revised like

05:12:35.840 well it's it's money that could otherwise go to something like important not just your like

05:12:43.500 superficial oh i want big titties because i can't just like brain myself into being comfortable

05:12:52.100 with how my breasts already are i can't just like use my i can't use my mental constitution

05:12:58.660 and fortitude to just be like here's the real confident thing okay i have a cups or b cups

05:13:04.600 or the shape or the it's uneven whatever i accept it who cares that's mental fortitude that's mental

05:13:12.380 constitution you're in a prison for your mind these women hate this conversation by the way

05:13:18.400 they fucking anything anything that's critical of like women's uh attempts to bolster their

05:13:24.760 artificial attraction attractiveness is always going to be brutal for the women i've just been

05:13:31.100 thinking about how heavy my poops feel well you probably want a breast reduction or something

05:13:35.640 like that right now especially in this chair i'm like yeah you know i agree with you i really

05:13:41.100 think i'll probably disagree just a little bit it's i think you said something about how it's

05:13:45.620 like women that perpetuate the beauty standard it's it's mainly it's both i think oh okay so

05:13:51.820 Like, for example, a woman might want to get breast implants because they know that men like big titties.

05:13:57.480 Right.

05:13:58.100 Yes.

05:13:58.920 How do you think we got to this?

05:14:00.620 Because what my perspective is, is that men, I agree, right, that men are the ones who have created pretty much everything we have here.

05:14:09.420 So men created this beauty standard via Hollywood.

05:14:12.760 They're the writers that hire the actresses.

05:14:16.200 They're the ones that look for the type of figure that they want to be portrayed on the screen.

05:14:19.900 Right.

05:14:20.080 They're the ones that developed Instagram and social media

05:14:23.460 where women are being portrayed, airbrushing, filters.

05:14:26.760 All of these men created make-up, men created lingerie,

05:14:30.040 men created the establishments that push this beauty standard

05:14:34.220 that is unobtainable.

05:14:36.100 And then we blame the women, not that you are,

05:14:39.100 but then there's men that blame women and say,

05:14:41.020 oh, yeah, but then it's promiscuous behaviour that gets rewarded.

05:14:44.440 So the girl that's sitting in the library studying,

05:14:47.160 that's not you know she's not getting flown to all of these countries with big bags and this

05:14:51.940 that so it's a bit hard for women to be like oh a little closer to the mic oh like it's a bit

05:14:57.120 well look so like no i don't want to be a part of it's not myself i agree with you i don't think

05:15:01.460 cosmetic surgery should even be a thing well i don't think there's some grand patriarchal

05:15:05.840 conspiracy that men are like you know what we like a cups but we're gonna make the women like

05:15:11.220 we're gonna have the women you know the the preference is going to be like triple d's or

05:15:15.040 double d's or whatever i actually think that there's like an evolutionary biological basis for

05:15:19.400 men it like it's not like men are conspiring to have this thing about bigger breasts or better

05:15:29.560 i think there's just the biological basis yeah of course because it's just like it's for yes

05:15:35.400 exactly it's like a fertility thing okay she's got big titties more milk for the kids it's i don't

05:15:40.900 think it's some like evil conspiracy i just think like it's not that that's the end result isn't it

05:15:45.860 the end result of that is these establishments that push the the the beauty standard of big

05:15:52.800 sure i'm not i'm not completely uh exculpating men's responsibility as it relates to beauty

05:16:00.700 standards out there but i wouldn't place the blame solely on men women do women do a lot

05:16:06.040 there's like female gaze like and certain things that women do i would say that's like

05:16:12.080 definitely female gaze stuff like certain cosmetic stuff like the buccal fat removal

05:16:17.840 that's female gaze like the women who get fat removed out of their face

05:16:22.140 men actually kind of prefer a woman who's got a bit more rounded face they're that's that's um

05:16:30.940 like the women who want like the crazy fucking cheekbones and like that's a female gaze thing

05:16:36.040 You're not doing that for men, really.

05:16:38.860 I mean, you're doing it for yourself, I guess.

05:16:40.540 But there's, like, the lip filler.

05:16:42.740 Like, you ask most men.

05:16:43.700 They're like, lip filler looks weird.

05:16:45.480 Like, it's uncanny.

05:16:46.480 It looks bad.

05:16:47.000 No offense to show of hands.

05:16:48.520 Who has lip filler?

05:16:50.720 Lip filler?

05:16:51.900 I don't.

05:16:52.500 You've done something to your lips.

05:16:53.800 I did.

05:16:54.540 But it wasn't filler.

05:16:56.160 Okay.

05:16:56.420 But, like, when I say lip filler, let's just, like, lip stuff.

05:17:01.800 Lip work.

05:17:02.440 You've done lip work.

05:17:04.200 You've done something.

05:17:04.800 Look, but, but I was mentioning my selfish perspective, which would be, I don't want a world and look, there's very little I can do because Hey, society superficial, their beauty standards already exist. I'm not going to be able to really combat anything on my podcast here. Aside from the women who watch the show, I mean, what I would say to women who watch the show, perhaps you at the table, there are men who will be madly in love with you, who you will also be madly in love with, who would take you without.

05:17:34.800 any of the procedures you've had done or are contemplating or considering doing.

05:17:42.380 And truthfully, you like it. Okay, well, fine. And I would argue the man who will love you and

05:17:49.560 like you and cherish you absent or prior to your indulgence in cosmetic alteration,

05:17:57.460 that's actually the virtuous man you should pick and be with. For example, if a woman came to me

05:18:04.260 and said hey Brian my boyfriend

05:18:06.100 wants me to get a boob job I'd be like

05:18:08.240 red flag

05:18:09.160 that's a red flag

05:18:12.100 for the guy to want the woman to get the

05:18:14.200 boob job and push the woman to get the

05:18:16.100 boob job not force but like

05:18:18.180 hey or even like I'll pay for

05:18:20.220 the boob job I think

05:18:22.080 that's a red flag and I'd be like whoa

05:18:23.820 this guy

05:18:25.600 he should be happy

05:18:27.780 I mean he's chosen to be with you

05:18:29.900 he should

05:18:31.320 love you as you are

05:18:34.220 yeah and i don't know if that's like yeah no it's true i feel like that that's the same take

05:18:41.060 but whereas the guy the guy yeah the guy who's pushing for plastic surgery i think that's a red

05:18:47.020 flag i don't think a guy should be telling you what to do with your looks at all yeah i know

05:18:51.920 well historically i mean to combat what was said before historically women have always set the

05:18:57.300 standard it was marie antoinette it was the the the elites who set the standard i mean you talk

05:19:02.020 about chinese like it was the reason why women started binding their feet was because the princess

05:19:08.280 and the men looked at our feet and they said your feet are beautiful so women have always set the

05:19:12.240 standard and then men have complimented and then women go some of this stuff forever i mean there

05:19:18.040 was no reason why men would say you should wear a corset but women wanted to and men said that

05:19:22.500 looks good and then women said okay we'll keep doing it so it's always been us who control it

05:19:27.420 and men, men really are just kind of like, I think you're beautiful. Now, look, there are some men

05:19:32.820 who are on board with the plastic surgery and they want the big fake titties and the plastic Barbie

05:19:37.500 look or whatever. Um, I personally think that's a red flag. The types of men who are like into

05:19:42.480 that aesthetic. Um, that's just me. I think you ask most men, most men are like, I'd prefer my

05:19:50.600 girl to be closer to as natural as possible no plastic surgery none of this maybe some guys are

05:19:57.960 a bit more forgiving let's say on the makeup front but like the when we get into plastic surgery

05:20:03.900 territory botox all this stuff then a much higher proportion of men are like yeah i don't really i

05:20:10.020 don't really like that okay you got a cups b cups i still love you anyways and isn't that what we

05:20:16.280 want like wouldn't you yes like ultimately we like the first thing to say is you know love me

05:20:21.140 as i am right like here we are rating beauty right i agreed with her when she said that but

05:20:27.820 i agree for a different reason to be on the bottom of that scale right i don't care i mean but again

05:20:32.920 when i had my breasts done it was because after pregnancy things weren't the same and it was

05:20:39.220 depressing to look at myself i was gonna say the same thing i went to like an h from like a b

05:20:44.280 so i had to fill it in you know to feel better i didn't i didn't get my implants until i was in my

05:20:51.180 30s and i was already out of the industry when i got my implants like but my body was great for

05:20:56.440 the implants then i had children i had four kids i had seven pregnancies three miscarriages for

05:21:00.240 four pregnancies to term and uh yeah i'm like shoot you're so used to some one body and then

05:21:06.280 it changes and you're like for myself i wanted to just yeah i feel like lesbians have it made

05:21:12.360 because to like hold keep my man's gaze i feel like i have to maintain and get better even like

05:21:20.020 i'm on a journey right now for a fitness i lost 10 pounds and like trying to get healthier

05:21:24.620 fantastic um but yeah like it hurts sometimes he'll look at other people passing by and such

05:21:30.860 you know and i'm like oh fuck so yeah but like being healthy and like exercising and being fit

05:21:39.480 that's within the perfect

05:21:42.000 like that's good right

05:21:43.460 for sure yeah but what about the people that do

05:21:45.840 all that and still do a little bit

05:21:47.940 of the exterior stuff well fitness

05:21:50.040 good BBL bad

05:21:51.760 I consider myself a BBL

05:21:53.300 fitness good

05:21:54.840 squats good

05:21:56.620 glute thrusts or whatever they're called good

05:21:59.320 BBL bad

05:22:00.820 simple as

05:22:02.420 and dangerous do you have a BBL

05:22:04.640 BBL

05:22:06.040 do you like shelf bucks

05:22:08.580 Yeah, shelf butts.

05:22:09.820 Are you a shelf butt girl?

05:22:12.000 Because you have certain workouts you can...

05:22:13.720 I know, but some people do have natural butts.

05:22:16.720 Some do, yeah.

05:22:17.840 I like my butts.

05:22:18.460 Some women naturally have bigger butts.

05:22:22.980 Like, of course.

05:22:24.520 And?

05:22:25.420 I'm not sure what you mean by shelf butts.

05:22:26.780 I'm asking your opinion.

05:22:27.980 I don't like BBL.

05:22:29.020 Like, I would take a girl with a flat butt, totally pancakes, over a girl with, say, the perfect BBL.

05:22:37.660 And most, 99% of BBLs, I think, look terrible.

05:22:42.620 They don't look good, generally speaking.

05:22:44.540 And they're very dangerous.

05:22:45.500 They're overdone, and it's bad, and it's, I don't know.

05:22:48.760 Cardi B.

05:22:49.580 But also, going back to my point as to the selfish component,

05:22:53.280 I wouldn't want my daughter or my girlfriend or any of my family to live in a world

05:22:59.240 where they're just bombarded with things that are going to make them feel self-conscious

05:23:03.120 and insecure about their appearance.

05:23:04.560 but then also it's like it's not just that selfish component i also even for strangers even for all

05:23:10.640 of you don't want that for any of you i don't want that i don't want society to be i mean it

05:23:15.780 is like that unfortunately i don't want it to be like i would never want eden to not think she's

05:23:20.680 perfect oh gosh you know because she's so perfect which is it always breaks my heart when i hear

05:23:25.540 these young girls and like which i think goes back to like my reason why i said it was vapid

05:23:30.040 is because I mean you've proved it that it's really is subjective entirely and so then you

05:23:35.980 have to leave it to what talk about the looks rating thing yeah what what you believe it should

05:23:43.360 be but be realistic you know like if you're if you're if you're even putting yourself out there

05:23:47.660 I'm rating myself for other people then that's odd but to say you know I think I look okay I think

05:23:52.840 there's something that I have to do like that's why I set four and four for me because I'm I'm

05:23:56.140 unhealthy. I'm working on being healthier and that's so I can have kids so I can be healthy

05:24:00.500 for my husband. But it's not about like, I don't want to rate myself or anyone else to rate

05:24:06.280 themselves as if, and like I have a choice in the matter. Look, women will do it for a bunch

05:24:11.320 of reasons. They want to look good for themselves. They want to look good for men. They want to look

05:24:14.800 good for women. As far as the male component of that goes, if just all cosmetics were just gone

05:24:22.320 tomorrow and there's no plastic surgery everything was gone there wouldn't be some like mating

05:24:28.020 crisis where men were not wanting to have sex and date women men would still be attracted to women

05:24:34.400 life would men have sex with anything that's also true they do yeah right but like so

05:24:41.340 right but the idea here is that like it's it's all just a game it's like a one-up and and we

05:24:50.900 see this like uh like the the beauty standard 20 30 40 years ago i don't think it was nearly as

05:24:57.000 i don't know if high is the right word it was not as complex so to speak as it is today

05:25:04.820 now uh through media and through all these you know plastic surgery you know there was like

05:25:12.260 40 years ago were people really getting like lip filler

05:25:17.140 you were you would not see people it's been around longer than you think it's been around

05:25:23.800 yeah yeah but it's like the the frequency of it was way lower yeah and now i think maybe the

05:25:30.820 science behind because i mean every year they come out with something new something so i think

05:25:34.560 it's also just developing yeah the look like looks maxing jobs in the 80s i think yes i think a good

05:25:40.400 way to combat this and i really liked what you said brian i thought it was very sweet that you

05:25:44.320 don't want people to you don't want women to feel bad about themselves but i think that we the best

05:25:48.320 way to combat it is with love and compassion for people and to not be so like teach people how to

05:25:55.400 love themselves like when you have kids and if you have daughters like teach them so much value in

05:26:00.360 themselves that they don't feel like they need to seek outside validation in order to feel beautiful

05:26:04.940 beauty is more than the superficial well so i agree you should raise your children

05:26:09.040 your daughters and your sons to have mental constitution to have mental fortitude and be

05:26:17.080 like look there's in society by the way there's a massive consumer basis for because the plastic

05:26:27.080 surgeons want your money the health care system wants your money they want the 10 000 bucks or

05:26:32.420 however much it costs to get some of these procedures.

05:26:35.520 The makeup industry wants your money.

05:26:38.700 And so I would just say, look, the way society is set up,

05:26:44.420 you're going to want to be competitive in this way,

05:26:46.560 and it's going to cost you money, and it might cost you your health too.

05:26:50.280 And I don't know.

05:26:51.340 Here, once everyone's back, I'm going to move into something else.

05:26:54.520 I'll stress.

05:26:55.440 545, please ask.

05:26:56.920 I don't know.

05:26:57.900 What's that?

05:26:58.720 Thank you for the super chat, but I'm not sure what you're referencing.

05:27:01.340 Guys, like the video.

05:27:02.040 Also, the biggest thing, my anti-plastic surgery position, labiaplasty, 10,000 labiaplasties

05:27:08.820 a year.

05:27:09.400 It's such a tragedy.

05:27:11.880 Why am I holding this?

05:27:13.500 Is this a real thing?

05:27:14.620 Because it's something he cares about.

05:27:16.340 So I only almost near exclusively want to date women with large labia, and it hurts

05:27:24.180 the bigger, the better.

05:27:26.700 And sometimes I get labia fish, like girls claim they have an outie, but that's not really

05:27:31.080 an outie.

05:27:31.420 Are you serious?

05:27:32.460 The bigger the better.

05:27:33.820 It needs to be a butterfly wings.

05:27:37.020 No, I'm dead serious.

05:27:37.960 It's not from Arby's.

05:27:39.040 Here, show your hands.

05:27:40.260 Who here has an outie?

05:27:41.560 Show of hands.

05:27:42.040 Who has an outie?

05:27:42.880 I don't even know what that means.

05:27:44.180 Sorry, Brian.

05:27:44.660 Tiffany, pull up the Discord.

05:27:46.500 Pull up the Discord.

05:27:48.760 Hashtag in the chat.

05:27:49.700 Should we rate our pussies one to ten?

05:27:51.080 What the fuck?

05:27:51.660 No.

05:27:52.380 I'm just kidding.

05:27:53.440 In the chat.

05:27:54.380 I'm kidding.

05:27:54.820 Hashtag BLM in the chat.

05:27:56.440 Pull it up, Tiffany, the BLM photo or whatever.

05:27:58.980 I'm kidding.

05:27:59.480 I'll show you guys

05:28:01.480 Now once Envy is back

05:28:03.260 I don't know where she is

05:28:03.940 We got some more different stuff to get into

05:28:06.920 You got it Tiffany?

05:28:08.540 Pull it up so they know

05:28:09.620 The one on the left

05:28:13.460 The Audi

05:28:14.120 That's my style

05:28:16.340 That's my cup of tea

05:28:17.960 That's excessive

05:28:20.040 That's what?

05:28:22.280 Well I mean there's

05:28:24.020 Did you hear me say the bigger the butterfly the better

05:28:26.720 Okay

05:28:27.640 It could be smaller than that, but that's the general idea.

05:28:31.800 An outie.

05:28:32.860 The inner labia is the lips.

05:28:35.280 The lips are out.

05:28:36.180 He wants someone to be able to snack on.

05:28:38.380 Dangle.

05:28:38.960 It's got to dangle.

05:28:40.100 He wants to be able to stretch.

05:28:40.780 I need a couple inches.

05:28:42.740 Why are you looking at me that way?

05:28:44.200 Because why?

05:28:45.100 Stop labia shaming.

05:28:47.180 Stop labia shaming.

05:28:48.240 It's okay.

05:28:49.140 We both are.

05:28:49.760 God created outies.

05:28:50.600 We both are, Brian.

05:28:51.820 God created outies.

05:28:53.060 Oh, my God.

05:28:53.760 God created outies.

05:28:54.680 Okay.

05:28:55.060 Let's not shame women who have outies.

05:28:57.640 the same way i feel about force so you're saying people are getting surgery to make it smaller

05:29:02.240 girl you're saying people are getting it's a non-negotiable for me actually i'm to have it

05:29:07.740 right no no i don't i don't i can't i want them to have yeah women uh get i like it's a serious

05:29:12.620 thing 10 000 per year labiplasties they cut their lips why would you know we're talking about

05:29:18.300 foreskin snip and tuck you know why so that they can look more like porn stars all right envy we

05:29:24.520 We need you to return because we've got some going around the table things.

05:29:29.260 I do want to come back on the superficial thing a little bit because, you know, you said the looks rating is segment superficial, vapid.

05:29:35.820 I know, but you do it in all your podcasts, so I was prepared.

05:29:38.520 No, I understand.

05:29:39.540 I thought I could skirt under the radar and just say, I hate this question.

05:29:42.440 And it's superficial, so we'll get to that.

05:29:45.380 Okay, starting with you, what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?

05:29:52.520 That's great.

05:29:53.300 husbands that's funny um i don't have a minimum so you you date a guy who works at mcdonald's

05:30:00.880 but he did say want um you didn't specify where they worked it was more about how much

05:30:07.200 i don't think i would date someone who worked at mcdonald's necessarily but if they were in

05:30:12.060 the creative field and didn't make much money okay how about this so the typical uh cashier

05:30:17.560 at mcdonald's the typical typical cashier at mcdonald's uh but they make that much in a year

05:30:24.500 but they do a job that you are satisfied with i guess i don't know i would roll with you'd be

05:30:31.500 fine what about you um i like to say a hundred thousand dollars but any man that i he should

05:30:37.860 work for me he should work for me he should work with me he should so a hundred thousand yeah i'll

05:30:43.680 pay from that all right what about you i don't want to set a bar amount per se i think it's more

05:30:49.020 of like the skill set like let's say they just got out of college you know they have the hustle

05:30:52.860 mentality like they're not just like quick to start something and quit i think that's more

05:30:57.580 telling so they have the potential to make money especially your age especially my age i'm just

05:31:02.140 thinking about this practically i don't want to say like a million um i would say okay if we have

05:31:06.880 to look up if we have to put a number say you have to if i have to at least maybe like 25 30

05:31:12.300 000 which is really low that's super reasonable so what i'm saying is like had to give a number

05:31:19.060 yeah if i had to now keep in mind like you got to also factor in if you one day want to have

05:31:23.940 children yeah you are gonna have to consider like 100 you're gonna have to think right now

05:31:29.360 like this while dating you know what i'm saying but over time i would hope that would

05:31:33.240 yeah and how old are you 100 000 100 000 okay what about you i don't have a number come on

05:31:39.640 Well, I put it on there. Seriously, because I think, again, that understanding of like working, like being together and struggling together and building together is a goal.

05:31:49.300 All right. What about you, Roxanne?

05:31:50.360 So I agree with what you said. There's a lot of factors. And being a woman that's married and has four kids, I understand that there's a lot of factors.

05:31:56.740 My husband is our main provider. I also at work and provide as well, but he's the main provider.

05:32:01.220 And I'm not going to tell you how much my husband makes, but I'm going to say just knowing we live in California, having four kids, you know, we own a home in Arizona.

05:32:09.240 we live here um definitely over 200 000 okay realistically chase what about you five million

05:32:18.060 plus what what girl trolling hold on i gotta

05:32:23.920 should you double take that yeah

05:32:28.380 we're dreaming i can want anything no no you did say want yeah wait so okay well what is the

05:32:36.900 minimum yearly income to be your future husband. So it doesn't say ideal. When we're talking

05:32:41.240 minimum, that's not like, like ideal. I would just say billionaire. Yeah. Like I, of course,

05:32:47.380 ideal billionaire, but minimum is like, this is like the lowest I'm willing to accept.

05:32:53.220 So 5 million. Are you trolling? Have you ever even dated any man who makes $5 million a year?

05:33:03.520 yeah okay um wait you were what about the guy you were married to right you're married once

05:33:12.000 he was not a five million dollar earner but he we were very very in love and he was a very kind soul

05:33:18.320 and he was a very pivotal person in my life so are you serious on the five million thing

05:33:23.360 this is your future husband not just a guy i'm serious i need if i'm gonna get pregnant then

05:33:28.740 um i need two nannies and a plastic surgeon on deck she's fucking with you now no i'm not that

05:33:35.160 one that part is actually very serious all right uh what about you i don't know maybe it's different

05:33:40.580 scoot into the table sorry i'm doing this sorry i don't know maybe it's a little bit different for

05:33:45.340 me because uh for a woman for a woman you want to i would say i take the masculine role so i

05:33:50.620 wouldn't expect her in that sense wait question there's different categories of lesbian women

05:33:55.780 like you have the

05:33:56.640 there's like butch and then there's femme

05:33:59.640 what are you?

05:34:01.260 I don't know

05:34:01.740 like you know like gay dudes there's bears

05:34:04.260 are there terms for lesbians?

05:34:06.920 see the thing is I'm not into this like lesbian

05:34:09.100 weird label

05:34:10.280 I'm just a woman that likes women

05:34:12.400 that's why I'm against the LGBTQ

05:34:13.960 you're not in the lifestyle

05:34:14.960 I don't like the community

05:34:18.000 you're attracted to women

05:34:19.460 but you don't bother yourself with the

05:34:22.340 identity shit

05:34:23.980 I'm very controversial

05:34:25.360 a lot of the gays don't like me because I'm very like

05:34:27.980 well because of the tea thing

05:34:29.680 no no not even that just my thoughts on like

05:34:31.800 I don't think gay people should be married

05:34:33.720 in terms of like marriage I don't think

05:34:35.760 that's the case either and you've never

05:34:37.720 been with men only women

05:34:38.840 no I've been in three relationships with

05:34:41.800 men but never had sex

05:34:43.120 is there like any question

05:34:45.760 I'm sure we're gonna come

05:34:47.780 back to the we're gonna come back to the income

05:34:49.820 thing is there

05:34:51.600 any dude

05:34:52.480 that you would have sex with out there?

05:34:56.700 Like an actor or something in their prime?

05:34:58.760 Oh, no.

05:34:59.200 Leo? Titanic? Come on.

05:35:00.780 No, no, no.

05:35:01.800 Come on.

05:35:02.280 Rose? Give me Rose.

05:35:03.280 Okay, give me Rose.

05:35:04.260 Give me Rose.

05:35:05.780 But, yeah, no, I think that...

05:35:08.260 It's not that I don't think gay people should get civil unionship.

05:35:11.020 I think as gay people, we should learn...

05:35:13.580 Not learn, but we have a position in society

05:35:16.180 that is different from heterosexuals.

05:35:18.040 And if our paths are different, then we're labeled different.

05:35:21.420 I can't take the role of a

05:35:23.380 oh I'm getting married under the eyes of God

05:35:25.600 when that's a covenant between

05:35:27.460 man and woman under the eyes of God

05:35:29.180 do you see what I mean

05:35:30.680 so I don't want to disrespect

05:35:32.600 I actually respect

05:35:35.380 the fact that you respect that

05:35:36.600 and I also think that

05:35:39.340 gay people shouldn't

05:35:40.760 intentionally deprive a baby from their

05:35:43.400 parents so we shouldn't be having children

05:35:45.640 without because a child

05:35:47.460 has a right to

05:35:48.680 a child has a right

05:35:50.580 To their mother and father

05:35:52.420 That is their birthright

05:35:53.560 You were the first lesbian I've ever heard say this in my life

05:35:55.860 I don't have the right to say

05:35:57.340 My selfishness to say

05:35:59.180 Well what does my baby want

05:36:00.960 My baby wants a father

05:36:02.120 Do you see what I mean

05:36:03.380 So you're like a based lesbian

05:36:08.480 Yeah I was about to say based

05:36:09.420 Yeah the community don't accept me

05:36:12.040 I'm like fuck you I don't accept you weirdo

05:36:13.880 So that must be

05:36:14.540 It must be a little hard to date

05:36:17.900 Then because I would imagine

05:36:20.120 a lot of

05:36:22.000 not all but a lot of lesbian

05:36:24.240 women they're probably a bit

05:36:26.340 more woke

05:36:27.040 at least when it comes to like the LGB

05:36:29.940 like I don't know your full politics

05:36:31.980 I don't even think LGB should even be a thing

05:36:33.940 like the thing is

05:36:35.060 but you are the L

05:36:36.060 I am the L but what I'm saying is

05:36:39.920 like if people want to run around and say

05:36:42.160 oh being gay is okay being gay is

05:36:44.180 normal all of this stuff then why are

05:36:46.200 we priding ourselves on our

05:36:48.040 homosexuality that's that's my thing right i'm not gonna i don't need to walk in here to say hey

05:36:53.560 i am this yeah there's a there's a lot of men in the chat they're like damn too bad she's a lesbian

05:36:59.600 maybe i don't know it's the accent um no it's the base it's the it's the reality of what she's

05:37:07.400 do you ever get dudes who are like i can fix her oh yeah i get i get threatened with um

05:37:14.760 I don't know if I can say the word

05:37:16.840 the R word

05:37:17.980 we know what you're talking about

05:37:19.860 a lot

05:37:21.000 that's completely fucked up and inappropriate

05:37:23.860 what

05:37:25.440 we'll go back though

05:37:27.980 minimum yearly income

05:37:29.200 zero, say she's a fucking baddie

05:37:32.160 what's your type, black women

05:37:33.340 no, you like Asian women

05:37:35.240 like Koreans

05:37:38.180 and Japanese

05:37:39.000 wait, can I ask you a question

05:37:42.860 as we both

05:37:44.900 are labia enjoyers

05:37:46.680 in your outie for you?

05:37:48.680 Or do you not care?

05:37:49.920 No, I'm not bothered.

05:37:50.760 It's the person.

05:37:51.720 You're not bothered?

05:37:52.960 No, but do you have a preference?

05:37:54.640 No, I don't.

05:37:55.860 If I like her...

05:37:57.340 If you like her,

05:37:58.240 it's not just about the labia.

05:37:59.400 I don't have a preference

05:38:00.280 in terms of race.

05:38:01.620 It's femininity for me.

05:38:03.520 I like feminine women.

05:38:04.720 Like super feminine.

05:38:05.620 Not even super feminine.

05:38:06.780 Just feminine.

05:38:08.260 But I wouldn't rule out masculine

05:38:10.480 either.

05:38:12.860 so what were you what were you whispering what nothing that's valid to this conversation

05:38:18.040 you're talking shit no no they're so they're both super kind they just kind of keep they're

05:38:25.600 like excuse us because they think they're all over me and i'm like you're fine uh so it could

05:38:30.460 be zero her income if she's feminine and cute and nice and could be zero yeah because i see i would

05:38:37.240 i'll put myself in the position you'll take care of it okay yeah what about you okay so

05:38:42.480 I've actually come a long way with this

05:38:44.760 because all the people I've

05:38:46.440 been with have had no money

05:38:49.020 none

05:38:50.000 and I was okay with that

05:38:52.420 and we kind of built things together

05:38:54.420 but

05:38:55.780 now I'm in a position

05:38:58.260 where I have a new relationship with

05:39:00.860 money, like I make good

05:39:02.920 money and I want my person to

05:39:04.860 make more money than me

05:39:06.480 and I like to travel and I eat good food

05:39:09.140 and I have kind of an expensive lifestyle

05:39:11.100 and I like

05:39:12.220 I live on Kauai

05:39:14.140 I live in North Shore Kauai

05:39:16.000 it's expensive

05:39:17.320 so

05:39:19.740 money is not a ruling factor

05:39:23.160 but it matters more in my life now

05:39:25.060 than it used to

05:39:25.760 what did you write on the paper

05:39:27.240 oh no

05:39:28.240 don't be ashamed

05:39:32.340 you can't even get a house

05:39:35.040 you can't even get a fucking house

05:39:37.820 on Kauai

05:39:38.600 for less than 1.2

05:39:40.840 Yeah, but you don't need to make a million a year to afford the mortgage on that.

05:39:46.100 Hold on, a couple things.

05:39:47.880 My goal is to make it before him.

05:39:49.500 And you're 41, right?

05:39:51.500 Yes.

05:39:52.280 Not 42?

05:39:52.980 No.

05:39:53.320 41?

05:39:53.760 I'm 41.

05:39:54.960 And you said you've never dated a guy.

05:39:57.400 You've always dated, it sounded like broke guys.

05:39:59.480 Okay, you want to know the irony?

05:40:01.240 The three that I committed to broke.

05:40:05.320 All the men that tried to date me in between could have had an amazing...

05:40:10.100 Wait, were you ever married?

05:40:11.300 No.

05:40:11.580 Never married?

05:40:12.160 No kids?

05:40:12.580 Never married.

05:40:13.360 So at 41, now's the time the multi-millionaire has to come around?

05:40:20.540 Well, it's not like I haven't been pursued by them.

05:40:24.040 I just didn't choose them.

05:40:25.780 But you said you recently changed jobs or something?

05:40:29.320 Or you said you started making better money recently?

05:40:31.840 Or what did you say?

05:40:33.360 I mean, I would say during COVID, I started a C&A business.

05:40:37.020 Wait, just us.

05:40:37.540 I started a private home care business and it took off like wildfire and it's a cash business.

05:40:44.300 No, I take care of elderly people and hospice and dogs.

05:40:51.920 And so you've been earning more money now than you previously were.

05:40:56.880 And now you want a man who's also pulling his weight.

05:41:00.220 Is that?

05:41:00.600 Yeah.

05:41:01.460 Okay.

05:41:01.860 But you're not making a million.

05:41:04.120 No, but honestly, I'm launching a business that I hope will eventually bring in that kind of money.

05:41:10.020 Well, I know some SoundCloud rappers that are going to be the next big thing that I can set you up with.

05:41:16.800 One million.

05:41:17.940 So minimum yearly income to be your future husband.

05:41:20.080 I mean, honestly, it doesn't have to be, but I want to have.

05:41:22.000 You said the mill.

05:41:22.660 You said minimum.

05:41:23.620 Minimum.

05:41:24.080 I thought it said, like, ideally.

05:41:25.640 No, it's minimum.

05:41:27.440 I want.

05:41:29.060 It says, what is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?

05:41:32.340 500,000 to a million

05:41:33.820 Okay, we're going to keep it at a million

05:41:35.460 Because that's what you said

05:41:36.300 We'll come back to that really quick

05:41:39.020 But what about you?

05:41:40.900 I never really thought about it

05:41:42.540 I'm married

05:41:44.640 My husband, I knew he was successful

05:41:47.180 So I mean, I don't know

05:41:48.940 100,000 I guess

05:41:50.680 Now, going back to you, Megan

05:41:53.300 I mean, 100,000 goes quick

05:41:55.420 Very quick

05:41:56.900 But you also got to factor in

05:41:59.680 What you're bringing to the table

05:42:02.140 so one thing look we all want we all want the best that we can get the question you then have

05:42:07.880 to ask yourself is well okay i'm incredibly self-sufficient why would that be a benefit

05:42:13.220 to the man because i'm not asking him to pay for my life i contribute equally hold on you're

05:42:19.360 self-sufficient then why would you require a man who makes one million dollars a year because i

05:42:24.040 don't want to be the breadwinner but you but how about i like how much you make i'm not going to

05:42:31.200 answer that all right let's just i'm gonna say you make 100k that might be even generous

05:42:36.680 you said you're a cna here should i google it it's okay how much there are multiple business

05:42:45.180 that was one hospice cna you have to remember i live on an island where there's a shortage

05:42:50.020 and it's all cash i get more than registered nurses

05:42:53.120 are you a cna in kawaii hospice certified nursing assistance referral company typically

05:43:01.060 earn between 19 and 26 dollars per hour translating to an average annual income range of 40 000 to

05:43:08.040 54 000 i don't think that that's not let's just double it let's just double it that's a hundred

05:43:13.500 thousand there's cleaners should we triple it it's still not a million dollars let me tell you

05:43:18.740 something the pay on kawaii is a lot more than the mainland yeah a lot people wouldn't they

05:43:24.300 wouldn't survive yeah but we're the ones who actually work those jobs so i'm telling you like

05:43:30.660 Okay, but you're not making a million dollars.

05:43:32.900 You're not making a million dollars being a CNA.

05:43:35.880 I didn't say I'm making a million.

05:43:37.300 You're not even making half that, though.

05:43:39.520 Yeah, I'm not making $500,000.

05:43:42.080 Okay, but it's like you say you don't want to be the breadwinner,

05:43:44.720 but you could go find a guy who makes $100,000, $200,000,

05:43:48.560 which is still a bit of a reach, I think, to be honest.

05:43:52.160 What?

05:43:53.100 $100,000.

05:43:53.740 A guy who makes $100,000 to $200,000, I think that's a bit of a reach.

05:43:57.160 I don't think so.

05:43:57.940 how how old are you willing to date that's a better question so you know it's funny i actually

05:44:04.760 turned someone who he's my best friend he's amazing very wealthy very successful christian

05:44:11.660 six seven a great dad good grief oh but he's 22 years older than me and i won't do it and he

05:44:18.720 literally looks me in the face and he's like love is looking you in the face and you won't choose

05:44:22.660 me why because of my age and i'm not a gold digger so if i wanted him for his money what's that i

05:44:28.660 would have married him

05:44:29.260 beauty and the beast

05:44:35.520 so you're 41 and he's 63 62 62 well

05:44:52.540 He's healthy. He's six foot seven. Look, I'm going to be honest. I'll take him. I'm going to be honest. Yeah. You fumbled that dude. You fumbled that. I mean, you, maybe you can still get him, but you turned him down. We still travel. We get separate rooms. We still hang out with each other. Yeah. And every time. No. Wait, you traveled to. Yeah. We traveled as friends. Yeah. And then does he pay for it? Wait, does he pay for it? No. Oh, okay.

05:45:22.320 And then somewhere along this last trip, he literally looked at me and he said, love is looking you in the face.

05:45:28.040 Like, why won't you just be with me?

05:45:30.260 Bro, I'm going to be honest.

05:45:31.640 And he's like, the age?

05:45:32.420 And I'm like, yes.

05:45:33.760 Actually, it is.

05:45:35.160 But that's how men feel about you.

05:45:38.860 About being 41?

05:45:40.560 That's how they feel about you.

05:45:42.040 I mean, I haven't had issues.

05:45:43.360 Like.

05:45:45.220 I haven't had any issues.

05:45:46.700 You know how y'all feel about broke dudes?

05:45:49.640 a wealthy guy

05:45:51.820 that's how we think

05:45:53.640 about y'all

05:45:54.960 what do you mean

05:45:56.520 the way you look at a broke dude

05:45:59.520 a wealthy guy that's how we look at

05:46:02.120 I've dated broke dudes

05:46:03.100 for many many years

05:46:05.220 you're speaking in general

05:46:08.700 you gave your best years

05:46:12.360 to brokeys

05:46:14.160 and now 41 million

05:46:16.840 you gotta make a million

05:46:18.800 a year to date me, come on

05:46:20.520 I mean, there's a lot

05:46:23.120 of them on Kauai, it's just a matter

05:46:24.940 of what I want to choose

05:46:26.840 I'm moving to you

05:46:28.060 if I can give you any

05:46:30.420 you're not going to listen to me, you said this guy

05:46:32.900 is 6'7", he's amazing

05:46:34.660 but I want to be in love

05:46:36.660 that's like a huge mind throw

05:46:38.100 I want to be in love

05:46:39.000 and he wants me to be in love with him too

05:46:42.680 I want to be in love with him too

05:46:44.420 love is retarded

05:46:46.580 he wants me to be in love with him too

05:46:47.940 He doesn't want to be in a relationship or transnational.

05:46:50.660 You're chasing this tingle, the chemistry, the butterflies, the electricity, the spark.

05:46:55.720 I love that you think you know so well, but no.

05:46:58.100 It's much deeper than that.

05:46:59.040 You just said a good woman can be a hardworking man's muse.

05:47:03.680 If they have more to offer, which includes peace, loyal, and supportive, money flows naturally.

05:47:08.040 If not, it's transactional.

05:47:09.380 Thank you, David, for the secret.

05:47:10.600 Yeah, and see, that's what I'm saying.

05:47:11.700 I don't want it to be transactional.

05:47:13.900 Otherwise, I'd be with my 62-year-old.

05:47:16.220 You should be with him

05:47:17.740 I don't like him enough to travel with him

05:47:19.900 Yeah we're best friends

05:47:20.900 Is he good looking for his age

05:47:25.620 I mean

05:47:26.760 Do you think he's attractive

05:47:28.680 Yeah he's good looking for his age

05:47:30.300 Maybe you should get with this guy

05:47:32.680 She's told me to marry him numerous times

05:47:34.480 It doesn't just transfer to somebody else

05:47:36.840 He's incredible

05:47:37.960 He is a phenomenal human

05:47:40.380 Imagine a guy saying

05:47:41.880 Is he attractive

05:47:45.600 I don't want to date someone 22 years older than me.

05:47:47.900 He sounds attractive.

05:47:48.380 I don't know.

05:47:48.660 He seems like he's not that bad.

05:47:50.020 If you date somebody 22 years older than me, I don't know why we're even having an argument about this.

05:47:55.740 My last relationship was 20 years older than me.

05:47:58.060 And he's trying to wrap his brain around it, too.

05:48:00.160 Obviously, if you're not into the guy, you don't have to date him.

05:48:03.040 But what I would say is, going back to the minimum income thing, $1 million and up.

05:48:12.040 $500,000 would be great.

05:48:13.320 Well, you said $1 million.

05:48:14.880 I did.

05:48:15.600 Um, let's be realistic.

05:48:18.100 So what, what can you tell me?

05:48:19.840 But money was never a driving force in my life ever.

05:48:23.320 And it's still not, but I want, I have my lifestyle that I live now.

05:48:27.280 Did you respond to the question?

05:48:29.380 Well, now I'm at a point where it becomes actually tough.

05:48:32.740 I need men who have a healthy relationship with money.

05:48:35.120 Okay, but so I get your past, but right now your standard is $1 million a year minimum.

05:48:43.180 What is the age range you're willing to do?

05:48:44.900 how old are you willing to go or young i suppose so i've always dated older wait just answer the

05:48:50.300 question for so you're 41 what's the age range ideally i'd like them like four or five years

05:48:56.180 older than me okay okay so 41 41 to like 46 46 okay and i don't like younger i'm good do you

05:49:04.040 want kids no okay and that's why my second relationship didn't work because he now here's

05:49:10.240 question are you willing to date a guy who has kids from another woman yeah and i am he has four

05:49:15.200 oh wait and two baby mamas you're oh you are you're dating you've been dating a guy for a

05:49:20.740 couple months that's right wait he's okay so he already has kids four and i love him i love the

05:49:26.620 okay yeah how much does he make not much well obviously it's a problem not much of a minimum

05:49:34.240 you know i travel so you should dump him right now call him up it's over you'll make a mill

05:49:40.640 It's over.

05:49:41.640 Enjoy your baby mama's bitch.

05:49:43.400 He's probably going to sell his AI company

05:49:45.680 and he might make millions.

05:49:47.520 We know, Brian.

05:49:48.880 It's very likely that his company

05:49:51.900 is going to get bought out.

05:49:54.740 If it does,

05:49:56.200 it will surely be sold

05:49:57.940 for a couple million.

05:49:59.560 I got a great bridge

05:50:01.900 to sell you.

05:50:03.680 Can I jump off?

05:50:05.980 I don't.

05:50:07.640 A glue to an Eskimo?

05:50:12.180 Yeah, it basically is blockchain for companies.

05:50:15.920 Attorneys are using it.

05:50:17.940 Politicians are using it.

05:50:19.320 Everyone's getting on board.

05:50:20.180 Do you know what blockchain is?

05:50:21.660 Yes, I know what blockchain is.

05:50:23.320 So it tracks everything start to finish,

05:50:25.320 and there's no room for changing it or fudging a number.

05:50:28.520 Nothing can be changed.

05:50:30.120 So it's hard evidence of where things are coming start to finish.

05:50:34.700 And his company does that.

05:50:36.900 And a lot of people have been jumping on, like, politicians in Wyoming and politicians.

05:50:42.420 Bennett donated $100.

05:50:45.080 Last donation for tonight.

05:50:46.940 Thank you, man.

05:50:47.400 Lol.

05:50:48.220 But anyway, good time to ask what they think about age gap relationships, Brian.

05:50:53.600 Next topic may be, don't want to interrupt, how much older is two old ladies?

05:50:59.920 We'll get to that.

05:51:00.980 Okay.

05:51:02.020 Okay, just show of hands, who's okay with age gap relationships?

05:51:04.660 I mean, yeah.

05:51:06.360 I am too.

05:51:07.640 Adult relationships, but age gap.

05:51:09.960 Not okay?

05:51:10.880 Not for myself.

05:51:11.600 Well, I'm married.

05:51:12.100 You were in one.

05:51:13.100 I know.

05:51:13.480 That's why.

05:51:14.120 Now you're against it.

05:51:15.200 I mean, not against.

05:51:16.040 Just for myself, I don't want to intern.

05:51:17.160 That's fine.

05:51:19.120 Got it.

05:51:19.700 Thank you, Bennett, for your TTS there.

05:51:21.640 Appreciate it.

05:51:23.220 And you know, maybe if my heart was into it, I would date him.

05:51:25.200 Wait.

05:51:26.500 So can you tell me, I'm not a super expert in startups or companies that are, you know.

05:51:35.520 raising money or capital or whatever what is the c has there been seed rounds for his company

05:51:42.480 do you know yeah he's had this company for years do you know what what's the like um

05:51:48.400 oh man i'm blanking on the terms for this there's like seed round a b something like that i mean

05:51:53.840 he's a brilliant guy he wrote a book back in 2016 all about the blockchain and everything

05:51:59.360 cryptocurrency and decentralizing the bank like a coin millionaire or something he could have been

05:52:03.920 but he wasn't at that time.

05:52:05.260 Oh, he fumbled?

05:52:05.680 Okay.

05:52:05.960 He did fumble.

05:52:06.520 Well, I fumbled too back then.

05:52:08.040 I should have shown you.

05:52:08.980 But he's incredibly well-read and he's smart.

05:52:13.600 Is his company going to have like an IPO or something?

05:52:16.000 It already has one.

05:52:17.680 His company is public?

05:52:19.460 Wait.

05:52:20.560 Oh, I don't know.

05:52:21.840 An IPO, initial public offering.

05:52:23.420 I'm not sure.

05:52:24.760 Probably not then.

05:52:25.680 I mean, I don't.

05:52:26.980 But I have a lot of AI geeks in my circle.

05:52:29.980 I'm a little geeky myself.

05:52:31.680 What's the business value that?

05:52:32.980 Do you know that?

05:52:33.920 for his company yeah he believes that he can sell it probably for 2.5 million yes

05:52:42.920 well wait and he's already had he has a board of directors he's got

05:52:52.540 investments that have already taken place i mean that's not now that the politicians are

05:52:58.000 on board it's a really big deal for the state of wyoming all right well um

05:53:02.420 you want a guy who makes one million dollars a year uh don't want kids um i would argue that

05:53:12.420 a man in the age range that you sided to who makes a million dollars a year he can

05:53:19.360 date women in their 30s why would he date you well it's i have men in that age bracket that are

05:53:27.700 in my circle she's gorgeous inside and out i think men actually once they like get to know me

05:53:34.720 it's wait you sorry could you say that one more time internally than i said she's gorgeous inside

05:53:38.460 and out thank you yeah i say most of the men in my life it's there's been like friendship

05:53:45.220 relationship and then it builds from there do you disagree huh do you disagree what do you mean by

05:53:51.800 gorgeous i think she's a very attractive lady before or after the cosmetic well i mean it just

05:53:59.800 enhances but you can tell why are you giving me that look like oh do i do i need to affirm

05:54:04.880 her identity as a gorgeous woman like i no but i think she's pretty but gorgeous when we say

05:54:11.940 gorgeous that's like you're a you're a eight a nine a ten i would definitely say like honestly

05:54:16.880 I think every woman at this table

05:54:18.360 is a very good looking bunch

05:54:20.560 I think this is an above average group of women

05:54:22.200 I mean honestly I pride myself more in my brain

05:54:25.100 than my exterior

05:54:26.400 beauty is in the eye of the beholder

05:54:29.640 so there's probably many viewers

05:54:31.000 that would look at each woman

05:54:33.380 and be like that's my type

05:54:34.180 you guys are not

05:54:37.320 alpha phi you're tri delts

05:54:38.820 but we're not asking for this

05:54:40.700 I don't know what that means

05:54:43.080 can you clarify

05:54:44.100 In the United States, we have fraternities and sororities, and there's like usually the most attractive women typically end up at alpha phi, and then like tri-delta is like a kind of mid-tier sorority where the less attractive – oh, my God.

05:55:03.240 We don't even live in this world, Brian.

05:55:05.580 You're talking about yourself.

05:55:06.560 Wait, Brian, do you –

05:55:07.400 Oh, I'm a 4.5.

05:55:08.620 I'm a 4.5.

05:55:09.720 Do you honestly believe that?

05:55:11.780 Would you honestly say that this is not an attractive group of women?

05:55:14.400 No, well, hold on.

05:55:15.420 I didn't say that.

05:55:16.880 I believe that this panel, as soon as Amelia returns, I can give the floor in.

05:55:23.780 This is a pretty average-looking group.

05:55:27.520 This is a pretty average.

05:55:29.700 Average is fine.

05:55:31.480 This is an average in totality.

05:55:35.160 Some of you might be a bit above.

05:55:36.920 Some of you a bit below.

05:55:39.420 Okay, guys, please stop.

05:55:41.000 Stop.

05:55:41.200 stop average average yes i do you disagree is that i do disagree i heavily disagree you think

05:55:50.800 that this is in a in totality you know what when we when we walked up yeah i think i can say anything

05:55:55.420 you know but awesome and beautiful we immediately could tell that we were all here for the same

05:55:59.520 purpose but just because of the beyond how everyone looks yes you can tell this is a confident

05:56:04.040 gorgeous group of women a congregation gorgeous i don't want to hear anymore okay

05:56:10.220 Brian, have me a good day.

05:56:11.860 What do words mean?

05:56:14.300 What do words mean?

05:56:15.740 If we were all walking down the street as a group,

05:56:19.060 people would absolutely just stop and their mouths would drop.

05:56:23.200 I absolutely believe that.

05:56:24.220 I don't think so.

05:56:25.140 I'm indifferent.

05:56:26.100 That's your opinion.

05:56:26.800 That's okay.

05:56:27.200 Look, I'm not saying you guys are unattractive.

05:56:31.100 I'd say you guys are like in totality average.

05:56:34.800 Oh, fans.

05:56:35.400 Like total.

05:56:37.100 It's a pretty average group here tonight.

05:56:39.120 pretty average group what was your who's your ideal yeah you want to which one's the most

05:56:44.800 attractive no no no i'm saying out of celebrities like who's your celebrity crush what's your like

05:56:49.820 that you like like your i mean i would say uh you could point to um who's that victoria

05:56:59.140 seeker model candace swanapool no uh adriana adriana lima she's like exceptionally well

05:57:06.440 when she was younger anyway she was exceptionally

05:57:08.060 still attractive still very much babe status

05:57:10.640 but obviously more attractive

05:57:12.540 when she was younger

05:57:13.360 you could look at

05:57:15.780 Megan Fox when she was younger

05:57:17.860 I'm sure I could list I think

05:57:22.260 Jessica Biel when she was younger was

05:57:24.020 striking but we're talking now

05:57:26.020 Jessica Alba

05:57:26.920 Jessica Biel is still attractive but she's

05:57:30.300 I think in her 40s at this point

05:57:31.880 so still

05:57:33.500 is that what it is because a lot of the majority

05:57:36.240 of the woman here are a lot of us are in our 40s is it because we're well age is a component but

05:57:42.000 like a woman like for example we look like this at 40 imagine what we look like at 25 30 i mean you

05:57:50.080 could look ultimately if if y'all were in your everyone here was 20 i would still say it's like

05:58:00.920 skewing pretty average i think that's hilarious because just a second ago you're like why plastic

05:58:08.040 surgery you know and here you are saying that so and like you're being ageist and i think that i

05:58:15.360 have a lot to offer and even beauty still and but i think women can be a matter of love but women

05:58:24.240 can be so what you see is average women can be tens absent surgery so i don't i don't my ranking

05:58:30.620 my ranking scale does not there there's absolutely zero requirement that the that a woman who could

05:58:37.160 be or conceivably could be a 10 there's no requisite that she have plastic surgery or even

05:58:42.260 wear makeup there are women who are so beautiful who are so genetically gifted that they just

05:58:47.920 their facial structure everything they're tens even without makeup for sure absolutely but so

05:58:55.520 you you're saying well why do women get plastic surgery just accept that you're average

05:59:00.540 just accept that you're a five or six or seven yeah like me me saying like this is not an

05:59:07.620 endorsement of plastic surgery by acknowledging that average looking women exist and i'm

05:59:14.620 surrounded by them today just to be clear i i don't think i'm a 10 yeah i'm a i get myself

05:59:23.060 where the soul can shine through and make the average beauty absolutely a fucking 10 because

05:59:29.760 I also respectfully disagree with you

05:59:32.840 But it's an opinion

05:59:34.300 So that's your opinion

05:59:35.480 And my opinion is that we're all baddies

05:59:37.600 Rate the women

05:59:38.720 I think to rate yourself is one thing

05:59:42.920 But I'm not going to rate the women here

05:59:44.480 You said you disagree

05:59:46.140 I'll rate the women

05:59:49.180 I say in total

05:59:49.800 I think it's a pretty average looking panel

05:59:51.940 You disagree, why not rate them

05:59:54.180 But why does that even matter?

05:59:55.200 Why are we even having this conversation?

05:59:57.180 It's very triggering

05:59:58.040 yeah why why would it be why is it triggering like why can't y'all just like why don't average

06:00:05.660 average isn't bad you can still be attractive that's my question what is average trying to

06:00:15.280 achieve because you're only going to be like celebrities i'd have to brian what are we trying

06:00:19.020 to achieve well so i i'll tell you why i think the looks rating thing isn't necessarily superficial

06:00:25.260 and why it's actually important so one thing that i see and men can fall prey to this too

06:00:30.980 but i think we see this we we observe this far more in women and there's a couple reasons for

06:00:37.020 that but i think in order to maneuver in the dating landscape effectively you need to know

06:00:44.480 your own standing absolutely and i think there's a lot of there's a lot of cope from women who want

06:00:52.960 to believe either in reality or more from a delusional perspective that they're more attractive

06:01:00.060 than they actually are. And that gets women into trouble in a bunch of ways. So first off, I would

06:01:06.800 say that, um, one of the ways that this can have a negative impact when it relates to dating for

06:01:12.740 both the woman and the man or men in gen in a plural sense if you think you're hot shit but

06:01:23.080 you're not say you're like in actuality you're average but you think you're a 10 or whatever

06:01:28.580 you're going to overlook men who are in actuality in your league and you're going to be chasing after

06:01:36.500 or wanting to date a certain caliber of men

06:01:39.680 that you cannot realistically lock down

06:01:42.620 for long-term commitment.

06:01:44.120 Now, look, if you're an average chick

06:01:46.220 and you just want to get ran through

06:01:47.640 by like fuckboys and hot dudes,

06:01:49.420 you can do that all fucking day if that's your goal.

06:01:52.120 But the W for most women,

06:01:54.840 look, unless you want to be a slut, be a slut, fine.

06:01:56.620 The W for women is getting the ring,

06:01:59.900 is getting long-term commitment,

06:02:01.460 is getting monogamy,

06:02:02.600 and is having a family and children.

06:02:04.400 if your goal is just to get dick down you can be an average chick hop on tinder and some chad's

06:02:09.600 gonna fuck you that's all you get though that's all you get maybe you get a situation shit maybe

06:02:14.460 he he keeps you around for pussy once two three times so that's one of the dangers is you're

06:02:21.060 gonna overlook men who are actually on your league you're gonna think you're gonna and then

06:02:24.260 well here's it's very um it's like multi-varied it's multi-varied um say a woman starts out on

06:02:33.580 this pathway of delusional self-assessment at 20 she spends her 20s just fucking dudes

06:02:39.640 jumping from situationship to situationship never really having long-term relationships

06:02:44.400 or maybe she has long-term relationships but in between she's fucking around whatever

06:02:48.620 by the time she's 30 and she thinks she's a 10 she's going to look at the guy who's actually her

06:02:57.120 equivalent and by the way like the the looks is one thing but it's the entire package right

06:03:03.100 exactly come on but she's still gonna overlook men who are like totality totality league not

06:03:09.440 just looks like totality league who are her equivalent she's thinks she's up here but here's

06:03:16.060 who's willing to commit to her say she does now some women will just never settle they'll never

06:03:21.840 be like so here's how they actually are but she thinks she's up here if she settles and she ends

06:03:28.760 up with that dude dead bedroom within a couple years. She's going to resent that guy. She's

06:03:33.580 going to walk all over that guy. Uh, women who do not, who are not attracted to their partners

06:03:39.980 or who feel like resentment or who think they settled do not end up treating their spouses

06:03:45.920 well. This also applies to men too, who settle for some like chick they're not all that into

06:03:51.860 usually does not make for great relationships. So you settle, you end up settling or you never

06:03:58.380 settle and then you never ultimately get what you want. So that's the damage. That's the damage.

06:04:04.600 Now, women can be delusional in this way because, uh, women, you have limited sexual access

06:04:13.840 to men who are outside of your league. So you could step to a professional athlete.

06:04:19.480 You could step to a rich guy. You could step to a really good looking guy who like

06:04:23.620 outclasses you looks wise. Um, you could, what was I athlete, limited sexual access to these

06:04:30.860 people limited. So when I say limited sexual access, what I'm talking about there is these

06:04:35.440 guys will keep you around for a couple of days, a couple of weeks, a couple of months, even

06:04:39.640 use you for sex, but they have absolutely zero intention of ever being in a relationship with

06:04:44.480 you. And that can be for, it can be personality driven, but a guy will, so a guy will sleep with

06:04:51.460 a woman and but on the sole basis of her looks he'll never take her seriously for a relationship

06:04:58.260 that sounds like a man's problem it sounds like well it's your problem standards and not be such

06:05:03.400 sluts that sounds like there's promiscuous men but men want sexual access women are the gatekeepers

06:05:09.840 of sex though so um i don't like that um because i think that it it takes away the uh responsibility

06:05:18.740 of the men to also uphold themselves to a standard if you're saying that you want this woman who is

06:05:24.520 virtuous we're talking about like hold on but hold on i'm hold on i'm speaking descriptively

06:05:31.260 so i'm saying this is what is i'm not saying if that this is right or wrong i'm just i could make

06:05:39.300 a uh prescriptive claim but just descriptively what i'm what i'm describing is correct it correct

06:05:48.020 in the sense of it describes what

06:05:50.000 is true. I think this is biased because

06:05:51.800 any of us actually qualify in that category.

06:05:54.180 You live in a world of an echo chamber.

06:05:56.180 It's not. I've

06:05:57.920 interviewed over 2,000 women

06:05:59.700 that's extremely diverse.

06:06:02.440 Well, 2,000 is still a small number

06:06:04.180 in the grand scheme.

06:06:05.720 Okay. Cool, bro.

06:06:08.020 Cool story, bro. Well, I'm not trying to

06:06:10.020 say that in an offensive way. Speaking to the

06:06:12.000 mic, yo. I'm not trying to say that

06:06:13.880 in an offensive way.

06:06:16.020 It's an objection, relevance, total non-sequitur.

06:06:17.960 I mean, in the grand scheme, there's a lot of women in this world.

06:06:20.740 And I don't think actually any of us fall in that category that you just described.

06:06:24.100 Fall into a category of what?

06:06:26.160 You're 41 and childless.

06:06:27.760 Like going for, because she doesn't want a kid.

06:06:29.520 Yeah, but that's my choice.

06:06:30.600 I chose that.

06:06:31.820 Okay.

06:06:32.320 And I'm not unhappy with it.

06:06:33.720 I have a good life.

06:06:34.620 And I've met a lot of wonderful men.

06:06:35.660 Wait, but you say none of the women here are this.

06:06:38.420 29-year-old divorcee.

06:06:40.740 Hold on.

06:06:41.440 Stop, stop, stop.

06:06:42.280 We're seeking these things.

06:06:43.020 You say none of the women here fall into what I'm describing.

06:06:45.440 29 year old divorcee who wants a man who makes $5 million a year, unless you're willing to go

06:06:51.360 like pretty old, I don't know what other metrics you're looking for. Look, how insane is it that

06:06:57.480 if you just on the financial claim, we're not talking attraction. We're not talking compatibility.

06:07:02.860 We're not talking shared virtues. We're not talking, um, all the other metrics that you

06:07:07.900 care about in the man, just on the financial metric alone, you have nixed out. You have zeroed

06:07:13.020 out. 99.97% of men. Good. Cause I need one. That's completely, that's not looking for one

06:07:22.980 man, not 97%. Yeah. But like there's literally fucking of the men that make $5 million a year

06:07:29.180 or more who meet all your other metrics. There's like seven dudes in the United States. Why the

06:07:34.360 fuck should they pick you? They're not seven. There's not seven. I'm using seven as a place

06:07:39.180 holder maybe it's more maybe it's less but like of the eligible bachelors that make this much

06:07:44.500 money who live in your same geographical region who are all you also not just that not just the

06:07:50.040 guy who meets all your criteria you have to meet his criteria too so even if you find this magical

06:07:57.460 man this magical unicorn it's not a unicorn it's not a unicorn this is like the people that i i

06:08:05.760 I know enough people to know that it is not a unicorn.

06:08:09.500 Have you ever dated a guy who makes 5M a year?

06:08:11.700 Yes.

06:08:13.300 Of course.

06:08:14.260 Of course you have.

06:08:16.320 Long term?

06:08:17.880 No, it wasn't long term.

06:08:19.200 Okay.

06:08:19.800 This proves my point.

06:08:21.760 No, it doesn't.

06:08:22.200 Yes, you had limited sexual access.

06:08:24.520 There were other criteria to which he did not meet my standards.

06:08:28.620 He didn't even...

06:08:29.280 Right.

06:08:29.740 So that's my point, though.

06:08:31.240 That's okay.

06:08:31.840 You're already reducing the pool.

06:08:33.180 It just means he's not the one.

06:08:33.740 and if i don't find the one then i hope to be the rich man of my life and make five million plus so

06:08:40.180 look and i'll just stay alone i'll finish my thought on this the reason why the looks rating

06:08:44.140 thing or whatever is important and having a good sense not just as a woman but also as a man

06:08:50.080 like i can't look i'm i'm not going to do what you guys do so i'm 37 i'm a bit overweight i got a bit

06:08:58.360 the rosacea. I got some dandruff. I have positives and I have detriments. I'm not going to sit here

06:09:06.400 and be like, you know what? I want a virgin 20-year-old Victoria's Secret model, fucking

06:09:10.980 double Ds, fat ass, perfect, great personality. All those things combined, that's not going to

06:09:19.920 happen for me i'm not getting 10 out of 10 supermodels that's not in the cards for me and

06:09:28.540 that's okay i'm not gonna cope about it though i think i can get a cute cute girl good personality

06:09:35.920 shared virtues maybe big labia throw the dice maybe i'm lucky maybe i'm lucky look i'm not

06:09:42.160 asked for much cute the big lady cute big labia oh my god pleasant that's it that's all i need

06:09:50.100 and look that's not just look if a victoria's secret model wants to slide into my dms i'm not

06:09:55.280 going to turn her down but realistically speaking that's not going to happen and if i step to a

06:10:00.540 victoria's secret model i ain't getting it i'm not getting a call i'm not getting a number i'm not

06:10:05.580 getting a date i'm not getting i'm not getting lit you have a lot going for you never know

06:10:10.200 honestly i and i think that you're limiting yourself you realize that the the right girl

06:10:15.320 will love your dandruff there are men there are men bro you don't have to coddle me i'm not i'm

06:10:22.000 not saying because i know like don't you see all these girls are like driven by their hearts

06:10:26.020 honestly you don't need a yeah but but men hold on men and women we all want to get the best

06:10:33.180 possible option i don't have delusions here that i'm some like fucking giga chad the reality is

06:10:41.420 the the the pool of men that 10 out of 10 victoria's secret models have i can cope it's not

06:10:51.220 cope i don't feel bad about the fact that there are men who are more attractive than me out there

06:10:58.240 it doesn't bother me i just accept reality women struggle with accepting i'm a 10 is it possible

06:11:06.620 that there's a woman who's more attractive than me is it possible that i have to be competitive

06:11:10.080 in the dating marketplace like you you guys do a lot of cope in this way i acknowledge that the

06:11:15.780 10 out of 10 victoria's secret model baddie has better options than me that's just i'm not upset

06:11:22.160 by it i accept it i accept reality you don't have to coddle me that's your reality so it doesn't my

06:11:31.160 belief is irrelevant the dynamic my boyfriend's not perfect and he does have dandruff and guess

06:11:36.600 what i give him a rosemary rinse i take care of that shit and someone will love you oh that's

06:11:41.960 cute you know what i mean like with your flaws that's right but my argument everybody has flaws

06:11:46.720 My argument, I believe, wait, hold on.

06:11:52.220 I believe that there will be plenty of women who are willing to date me, and I'll find love.

06:11:58.540 My argument here is I don't think I'm going to get 10 out of 10 Victoria's Secret model.

06:12:05.480 That's a very small percentage of women.

06:12:07.720 Those women have a bunch of options that are better than me.

06:12:11.780 A guy who makes $5 million a year, she says that's the minimum.

06:12:15.480 they have better options than her they got better options than her now look it's not impossible

06:12:23.760 it's improbable i think she could pull it honestly i don't think it's she can pull it

06:12:29.620 five and a year do you realize how rare do you realize it's not that rare five million plus

06:12:35.100 that's tell me the percentage of men who make five million dollars a year

06:12:38.520 My question

06:12:47.520 I have a question

06:12:49.680 Stop talking

06:12:52.480 If you're

06:12:53.300 And we can just go with your opinion

06:12:55.940 I think

06:12:57.320 I would agree with you

06:13:00.260 I think that most people are average

06:13:03.020 I agree with that

06:13:03.780 I think most people are average

06:13:05.920 And that are

06:13:07.080 i mean if if we're going with what you're saying you're not saying that everyone here is ugly

06:13:11.520 you're saying no average average is average is beautiful yeah so i think the understanding has

06:13:16.480 to i mean like if if i were six inches taller with like my mom's build my mom was built like

06:13:24.120 a coca-cola bottle and like like she was an athlete she was all these things very smart

06:13:29.660 she had like straight a's from like grade school all the way up to like college like she was she

06:13:34.480 was elite she's you know there's a difference to say elite athlete and a good athlete i think

06:13:40.020 he's not it's not an insult he's saying we're most of us are average which is true and then

06:13:45.700 you have to step back and say so then what what makes you unique i think that's the big thing is

06:13:51.700 what makes you unique but the claim is not that you aren't unique everybody's right right right

06:13:56.340 right but when we're doing assessments of physical attractiveness yeah i think if this if this panel

06:14:02.600 is average bro that's pretty good average and that's and that's from brian all the way around

06:14:08.860 like that's that that's the understanding like like and i think that like the truth is that if

06:14:14.400 0.05 percent of men make five million dollars a year he's one in a million and then so you want

06:14:25.740 the five mil you want the one mil that's less than one percent of men look i think you don't

06:14:33.020 have to just be like well um okay 20k a year i think it's okay for women to have some reasonable

06:14:41.580 degree of financial expectation when it comes to how much the man earns but when you start getting

06:14:47.040 into less than one percent numbers are you a less than one percent woman and i gotta be honest

06:14:54.160 no if i have those aspirations for myself where i want to make

06:14:58.500 fuck you money what do you do for work again um i'm getting into modeling and i would like to

06:15:04.540 pursue a career in entertainment okay continue with your thought though so if you have those

06:15:09.840 aspirations aspirations for myself why shouldn't i uphold my partner to the same standard and i

06:15:14.340 don't honestly i think that it's a little i don't know i just don't really even feel the need to

06:15:18.920 defend my standards if that's what i want then and i want to stay single until i get it then

06:15:24.880 that's what i'll get what about well if you if uh if you want to have kids you're going to have

06:15:33.380 to be realistic and then the timeline is also a consideration you're 29 right um when would you

06:15:41.820 like to start having kids by well you haven't asked me if i would like to have kids yet do you

06:15:46.420 I actually, I do, I would like to have kids, um, ideally, but my thing is not, I'm not

06:15:52.540 kid driven.

06:15:53.700 It's more important to me to have a loving marriage.

06:15:55.680 So I don't know what the point of marriage is.

06:15:59.020 If you don't have kids and you're secular, what's the point, but because I want to be

06:16:03.540 in love, but you say you, um, you say aspiration, you aspire to make $5 million a year, but

06:16:11.280 aspiring to something doesn't mean you will get there eventually like yeah Hollywood is full of

06:16:20.180 people who aspire to great things if you aspire and now they're a waiter if you aspire to only

06:16:26.140 20k you're not going to make it to 5 million if you aspire to 5 million then fall somewhere down

06:16:32.440 here then at least you shot as high as you could right but I'm confused dream big I'm confused how

06:16:39.800 because you aspire to make 5 million a year, why would that entitle you to a guy who makes 5 million

06:16:46.760 a year? It doesn't entitle me to anything. Okay. Well, why would that be your minimum threshold

06:16:51.180 for a guy you would date? Because I live a very good life. I take care of myself. And if I don't

06:16:57.420 have that type of care, then I would just rather be alone. So you'd rather be alone than date a guy

06:17:03.400 who makes 200k a year yeah which is like a perfectly like really good yeah that's a lot

06:17:10.740 it's crazy like i i'm surprised the other women aren't like what the fuck are you talking about

06:17:15.600 um 200k is a super super respectable income um you know there's some cities where it's like

06:17:22.120 i'm not saying it's not gonna be super ideal yeah but you're like i want yeah i can are you

06:17:27.360 a one percent woman i would say so what makes you a one percent woman as a divorcee i don't think

06:17:33.620 that having a divorce under my belt is a knock on me at all or detracts from me as a person put

06:17:40.580 that aside what makes you a one percent woman because i think i'm really caring i'm smart i

06:17:44.680 try to do better i try to hear people out and um i try to hold myself accountable for my actions and

06:17:53.100 i think i'm beautiful inside and out i agree and i'm smart and so why and how many other women also

06:18:02.360 meet all of that there's not enough five million a year earners to go around to all the women who

06:18:09.280 also possess all those trades well i'm not looking for just any five million a year earner i'm looking

06:18:14.680 for somebody who's also compatible which lowers the number of available men who meet your criteria

06:18:20.560 why does that matter i mean if i want to wait for that then why does it matter

06:18:24.400 because if we're if we're operating from uh how many men

06:18:30.100 meet your criteria and that the amount of men is really small and it means it's really unlikely

06:18:38.940 that you're going to match up with that that man just due to the sheer numbers of it

06:18:44.560 then you should reassess your standards.

06:18:49.020 Yeah, maybe in five or 10 years, but not yet.

06:18:54.160 Do you want to marry for love or money?

06:18:56.020 Realistically.

06:18:56.460 You know, what's important to me, I would like to, I would love to be in love,

06:19:03.360 but finances are also extremely important to me.

06:19:06.040 To the tune of 5 million a year, which is less than 1% of men.

06:19:10.600 so she's rejecting just on the financial component one 99 of men just like i'm not

06:19:17.280 knocking the idea i'm just asking um do you think that you could still have a suitable life with

06:19:21.080 1 million like if he has 1 million or even 500 000 you know like i think you could still live

06:19:25.380 a very you know generous life where you're living well don't you think like maybe 500 000 like would

06:19:30.400 you settle if you fell in love or less you know here's the thing here's the thing i would be

06:19:36.940 willing to grow with somebody but i don't want to fall in love for potential i want to see that

06:19:42.600 there's you know because it's not just about the money it's about the mindset that comes with that

06:19:47.600 um you know i wouldn't date somebody who's a nepo or somebody who's never had to work for i i ideally

06:19:53.160 would like somebody who's self-made not only wait so it's not just five mil it can't be nepo money

06:20:00.400 five mil it can't be who cares that's my it continually chips away at the amount of men

06:20:07.900 who meet your criteria well maybe we have some super chats here uh can you can you read this

06:20:14.440 one uh you can you read these uh crystal lol stop stop stop two million is nothing i blew that in

06:20:22.420 a year at the win if she said 20 million single digit company sales with a woman like that after

06:20:27.400 tax you're broke in a year and a half wait i'm not totally following he's talking about um

06:20:33.160 the young lady he was talking about um the money that her her boyfriend's business oh the business

06:20:40.480 yeah yeah yeah okay yeah that's um and kind of said we also don't know like if there's other

06:20:47.640 owners like other people who have ownership stake if your business is valued at 2.5 m and there's

06:20:53.440 like three other owners that's like that's not a lot of money um uh and you blew that in the if

06:21:03.340 you blew that in a year at the wind that's a las vegas uh casino hey since you're so wealthy david

06:21:10.720 i got three bottles of champagne that are about to expire in my refrigerator

06:21:17.540 pop one pop one maybe pop three if you want pop three thank you for the soup chat though

06:21:22.900 appreciate it man we got another uh not well dave this is amazing money thank you thank you for the

06:21:31.020 super chat there um so i don't know um all right well um i'm trying to think if there's anything

06:21:38.440 else i mean the looks rating the money thing can you guys return to the table i got more stuff for

06:21:44.260 y'all um i don't know why is it important i don't know it seems like this is from watching you and

06:21:53.800 how passionate you are about it it's kind of like the same thing you're talking about your daughter

06:21:57.000 like you just want you want us to be realistic kind of and like kind of give ourselves a chance

06:22:03.380 is that what it is uh i i want people to live in reality right and i'm a pisces i don't live in

06:22:11.200 reality you know let me just can't just say this really fast like i know a lot of women and i'm

06:22:16.300 not saying you can't get it because you're gorgeous and you seem gorgeous inside as well

06:22:18.860 i do believe that but i truly believe that stop coddling but i'm not calling but i will say this

06:22:24.020 i have so many friends that i believe are gorgeous as well inside and out that have held out for that

06:22:29.620 perfect guy and they're still single and they're 40s we have the most beautiful friends models

06:22:34.620 and they're still single reading for that 10 million dollar man so that's not going to be me

06:22:39.540 But I mean even you were like

06:22:42.540 Would you be okay with a million

06:22:44.580 I'm asking her

06:22:45.440 That's not my

06:22:47.140 I'm asking her if she would go down

06:22:49.300 Let's go down

06:22:50.620 Can we go down to a million

06:22:52.160 That's still a big ask

06:22:54.020 Go find yourself

06:22:56.520 You know what I've done the segment before I'll do it again

06:22:59.700 As representative

06:23:01.120 Of the male delegation

06:23:02.800 Here we go the male delegation

06:23:05.160 I am prepared to offer you

06:23:07.060 Our maximal

06:23:08.600 male offer that we think you are deserving of so he's 33 he lives on molokai no he owns

06:23:20.060 owns a very successful kayak rental business okay makes 110k a year because the the rental

06:23:27.960 the kayak rental is doing very good he also does upsells he does surfboards he sells surf

06:23:32.720 uh rents out surfboards too over there on molokai is one of the islands right yeah but it's a tiny

06:23:38.040 anyone yeah no tourism okay i'm not familiar with the all the islands i just know about malachi okay

06:23:45.680 you know what he's on maui i changed my shit i was gonna say he's on maui maui's very nice

06:23:50.740 everybody on maui is polyamorous what they are they are that's a separate discussion oh that's

06:23:58.120 crazy i thought i've been to maui love maui prefer maui it's smaller it's i don't like big cities

06:24:03.520 anyways uh okay um he's 5 11 no and he's a nice guy he's a good guy good guy um

06:24:13.540 previously divorced like you and uh well divorced like not previously that's kind of redundant

06:24:22.220 previously divorced he's been divorced if you're divorced it already happened kind of

06:24:27.960 A little redundant.

06:24:34.140 Yeah, that's it.

06:24:35.420 That's the guy we're willing to offer you.

06:24:37.060 That's who you end up with.

06:24:38.520 Well, it's not up to you.

06:24:40.660 Fortunately.

06:24:41.480 I'm the male representative of the male delegation, and that's our final offer.

06:24:46.440 This offer expires in three years.

06:24:48.480 Oh, God.

06:24:49.040 Okay.

06:24:49.840 No.

06:24:51.180 Okay.

06:24:52.400 Then going back to Miss $1 million, what makes you a 1% woman?

06:24:57.960 um i think it's more so who i am like my brain my capabilities that sort of thing my heart have

06:25:06.420 you ever taken the iq test um i have not well you say your brain so like why i don't understand

06:25:13.820 why does that in why i mean i would consider myself a pretty sharp girl but why why would

06:25:23.400 that get you a top 1% earner? Because I think 1% like intelligent women. Are you a, are

06:25:31.920 you in the top 1% intelligence of women? I mean, I don't, wouldn't say top 1%, but I

06:25:38.840 definitely pride myself on my wit and my brains for sure. Okay. And I have a good heart. Like

06:25:50.700 i think the overarching every woman says that why would do they because a successful man needs a

06:25:57.120 smart woman in his corner because if he's going to run a successful company it's important that

06:26:01.220 some the driving force behind it we don't need you i actually feel the opposite i think i can

06:26:07.560 bro it's like do you not like a a woman who's smart i didn't say that i'm saying for the for

06:26:14.680 the purposes of my business success i don't look to my girlfriend or if it's another man he doesn't

06:26:21.280 look to his wife or his girlfriend for the intellectual stimulation no for the success

06:26:26.660 of his business i i'm not a woman being intelligent is a good thing and it's something that men can

06:26:33.620 prioritize for but that's not what i'm arguing against you were saying oh well for the for his

06:26:39.180 business he needs a smart woman it's like get out the way lady we don't need you i'm not trying to

06:26:45.460 run the business or be a part of his business i have y'all don't by the way y'all don't build

06:26:50.080 you move in you you wait at the finish line and you pick the men who've already succeeded like

06:26:57.100 oh let me take the soundcloud rapper one day he's gonna he's gonna be huge it's like nah you pick

06:27:03.540 you deal with the men who already have that established my husband and i were building

06:27:07.480 together right now yeah look i'm saying it can happen already oh i'm saying they're building

06:27:16.300 but also there's some establishment since he's a partner and a record label you know what i'm

06:27:21.240 saying like it could be oh he was already established okay that's it but we are also

06:27:25.500 building like women but there is a new business maybe when you're young and you're in your

06:27:29.740 20s you meet a guy in college you're like hmm he's studying biology he might be a doctor he's

06:27:35.400 going to be a doctor one day fine you build there but you don't help him become the doctor yeah well

06:27:42.880 sometimes he would become the doctor whether you were there or not now you can be supportive as a

06:27:49.460 as a wife or girlfriend and supportive and caring and all this stuff but y'all the the angle of well

06:27:56.600 i'm going to be there and i'm going to help him build his business well we i didn't say help him

06:28:00.660 we are actually building a business together right now but it's true he was already established

06:28:05.020 it. Tell me the beautiful thing you fucking troll. You're such a troll. I think she's trolling at

06:28:11.620 this point. Okay. Here's the thing. I think that the beautiful thing behind, um, she's a sex in

06:28:17.620 the city. No, she's, it's legit. She's sex in the city girl. I think the thing about being a smart

06:28:23.100 woman behind the man is that if you know, you're sitting at a dinner and there's a lot of people

06:28:29.080 talking and maybe he is so, um, engrossed in the conversation that he's not seeing little nuances

06:28:37.260 that you're seeing. So having a smart woman in your corner can, it just, it bolsters things for

06:28:43.240 you. It bolsters things. They see things that maybe you don't see men. Okay, fine. Maybe that's

06:28:49.540 like a, a very minimally incremental benefit for the man. Once you've already established

06:28:55.880 yourself in the relationship men are not going to prioritize that specific thing if you even

06:29:03.000 bring it like you might claim you bring it whether you bring it or not is a completely

06:29:07.100 separate thing men don't care about that men are going to prioritize do you bring peace are you

06:29:15.360 good looking um how many one percent men are you friends with how many five million plus

06:29:20.820 i think a lot of men i i know i know a bunch of wealthy men but why would it matter with them

06:29:25.300 because then acquaintances then you would know their preferences a little bit better

06:29:29.660 what uh their preferences you're telling me men who already make five million dollars

06:29:36.720 they they obviously have the skill set or intelligence or or ambition or whatever to

06:29:42.500 already make five mil what the fuck do i need you for if i'm already making 5m because you want

06:29:48.880 somebody who's smart in your corner who can bolster your or help you with your career not

06:29:52.500 i'm already successful i'm already i would never be like oh i want to you want your wife to be a

06:29:58.680 propeller not a ball and an anchor but it doesn't just because just because a woman isn't capable

06:30:06.820 of like hey brian i'm gonna give you some great business advice that's gonna triple your income

06:30:11.200 it doesn't mean because she's unable to provide that that she would be an anchor it just means

06:30:17.040 that it's neutral i think it could be new can you tell any guy you've dated can you tell me

06:30:23.900 something tangible that you did that like two x'd his profits

06:30:27.860 never happened exactly i'm trying to just say what did you say no that was not who said such

06:30:37.020 a dick no no i said suck his dick oh okay i was like that doesn't what the fuck if he's about to

06:30:46.160 have like a really big important day and you like help get it that's stress relief but he's still

06:30:50.560 gonna do whether a man is stressed or unstressed he's still gonna show up i'm just i'm doing what

06:30:56.260 i can okay but but that's support but that doesn't mean unless she's bringing me but that doesn't

06:31:02.160 mean that doesn't mean your specific action oh my god i can't believe i'm engaging that's why i

06:31:08.220 whispered it yeah okay go ahead talking quality of life all right you're 29 you've dated different

06:31:13.780 men can you can you even articulate one time where you like clearly contributed to the guy

06:31:22.580 making more money because you gave him some amazing business advice it's not just business

06:31:28.360 advice i think that you're looking at it a little okay then explain it to me my ex-husband he

06:31:32.880 started making more money after we got together because i pushed him into another career that he

06:31:38.040 would not have he would not have done if I wasn't the driving force behind it he which was what

06:31:45.120 he um got into property management and he was working um just like a a normal like nine to

06:31:51.540 five job and I pushed him to get into property management and then I also pushed him to get

06:31:57.220 his real estate license too okay fine the seed of an idea without me women are the the pushers we

06:32:03.680 can we push men into we induce up like getting to the next level you can do that but it doesn't

06:32:12.280 stand to like how much money was he making beforehand i don't know great now that your

06:32:16.860 minimum yearly income uh to be your future husband you say it's five million uh oh boy i don't know

06:32:24.820 why i do this um all right i'm gonna move it on to a different topic because i think we're like

06:32:29.560 kind of uh spinning our wheels here a little bit one million dollars for you five million for you

06:32:34.300 uh good luck i guess come back in five years ten years and we'll i'll bring my husband on the show

06:32:42.220 in a year and a half um how about this how tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man

06:32:47.420 starting with you i'm five four and five eleven next five six and i feel like the shortest i've

06:32:54.440 dated as 5'9"? Next.

06:32:56.380 I'm 5'11", and I would

06:32:58.420 say 5'11", just like my height. You?

06:33:00.200 5'1", and I've dated guys shorter than me.

06:33:02.580 Not who you've dated, but just what's your

06:33:04.440 preference, I guess? I don't have one.

06:33:06.120 Okay, what about you? I'm 5'7",

06:33:08.220 and the minimal, it would be 5'11",

06:33:10.200 and my husband is 6 feet. What about you?

06:33:12.640 I'm 5'8", and my

06:33:14.100 minimum is 6'1", but I'd prefer

06:33:16.160 6'4".

06:33:17.360 Ah, now we

06:33:19.720 add another layer to the

06:33:22.060 5 million.

06:33:24.440 but no 5 million 5 million uh 6 4 that's like less than 1 oh my god okay next what about you

06:33:34.460 well you're a lesbian so okay next you like i'm 5 5 and 5 11 would be my preference okay what about

06:33:42.740 you 5 5 my husband 6 1 okay um millionaire a guy who makes five or one million a year

06:33:51.720 And he has to be 5'11

06:33:53.600 A guy who makes 5 million a year

06:33:55.560 And he

06:33:57.700 Has to be 6'1

06:33:59.740 But ideally 6'4

06:34:00.860 So we'll say 6'1 is the minimum

06:34:03.060 There's literally

06:34:05.720 Chair one

06:34:07.240 Crystal stay we need you for the rest

06:34:09.900 We need you

06:34:11.500 We need you

06:34:12.080 Hey you're good

06:34:13.940 You'll be fine

06:34:16.640 We're going to get into all your cool stories

06:34:19.200 Don't forget about that

06:34:20.080 look i'm just literally the amount of six foot one guys who make five million a year

06:34:29.380 that's like 10 dudes well if you're watching this podcast

06:34:36.420 just delusional just delusional look for chase banks just delusional man have you ever done

06:34:49.340 sex work no you have like a stripper name and chase banks is that your is that your actual

06:34:55.580 government name no it's not my government name like your first name my first that's my real

06:35:00.420 first name but banks is not your no no you've not you've never done porn or anything like that

06:35:06.380 no chase banks is that's a porn star name but it's like it's like hillary banks from fresh prince

06:35:13.940 uh let's see here uh what anybody here familiar with the lindsey clancy case at all yeah oh my

06:35:21.120 gosh i'm just going across the table who's familiar with it show of hands

06:35:24.120 remind me don't know i don't know yet i mean roughly uh okay so if you're familiar with it

06:35:31.980 going around the table um guilty or innocent oh my gosh i mean i guess guilty she did it guilty

06:35:38.780 I mean, she said she did it

06:35:41.100 Guilty

06:35:42.180 Guilty, good grief

06:35:43.760 I'm not familiar with the story

06:35:45.160 I don't know enough

06:35:47.500 I don't know the case

06:35:49.040 I never heard of it

06:35:52.040 Guilty

06:35:53.200 Never heard of it

06:35:54.360 Okay, there's nothing there on the Lindsay Clancy stuff

06:35:59.140 Who do you think is worse?

06:36:01.160 Sydney Sweeney or Lindsay Clancy?

06:36:03.720 Worse?

06:36:04.240 What do you mean worse?

06:36:05.380 Lindsay Clancy

06:36:06.260 Lindsay Clancy

06:36:08.480 Lindsay Clancy

06:36:09.300 I don't know who she is

06:36:10.340 But definitely Lindsay

06:36:11.220 Sydney Swinney was in a provocative

06:36:14.840 Sports betting ad

06:36:16.140 Where she was like

06:36:16.860 Not actually naked

06:36:20.200 Who's promoting the ad?

06:36:21.840 Did y'all see Euphoria?

06:36:23.280 Lindsay Clancy

06:36:24.040 She's naked in every episode

06:36:25.680 Strangled her three kids

06:36:26.880 Lindsay Clancy killed her three children

06:36:29.140 Oh my gosh

06:36:29.400 Yeah

06:36:29.640 Why is this a question?

06:36:30.860 I don't know

06:36:31.820 Some women think

06:36:32.500 This is not comparable

06:36:34.020 No, there's no comparison

06:36:35.680 at all. Who's familiar with the Cornell 7 case?

06:36:38.480 Yeah.

06:36:39.020 Cornell 7.

06:36:42.480 Ish.

06:36:44.640 Who's worse, Lindsay Clancy

06:36:45.940 or the Cornell 7? Oh, gosh.

06:36:48.180 Lindsay Clancy.

06:36:50.680 Murder, Lindsay Clancy.

06:36:51.900 Lindsay Clancy.

06:36:53.300 You guys familiar? Lindsay Clancy.

06:36:56.040 You? No, not familiar? Okay.

06:36:58.260 I live on a rock in the middle of the Pacific.

06:37:00.240 This is one we haven't done for a while,

06:37:01.940 but like a long time, but I think it would be good for

06:37:03.860 today uh tiffany open the door more uh okay so do you think you'll be better looking actually

06:37:10.360 you know what let me come back to that and i'll just do right now uh okay for uh you're 42 do

06:37:17.100 you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time no and then you're 42 do you think you're

06:37:22.720 better looking at 32 10 years ago yes better looking at 22 or 42 20 years ago obviously 22

06:37:32.060 Amelia, 27.

06:37:35.040 Better looking in 10 years at 37?

06:37:39.560 Yeah.

06:37:40.500 No, probably not at 37.

06:37:42.920 30s are good.

06:37:43.740 And then 27, were you better looking at 18?

06:37:46.960 At 18.

06:37:48.120 I think it looked a lot different.

06:37:50.980 Closer to the mics, please.

06:37:52.780 I feel like I get more attraction to people now than I did when I was 19.

06:37:58.880 What about you?

06:37:59.260 um i think you're 23 uh 23 better looking at 33 probably now okay uh age i guess okay or well

06:38:09.720 better looking at in 10 years uh no but when i was younger i definitely was way more overweight

06:38:15.380 i've lost like 150 pounds uh 45 better looking in 10 years at 55 probably not i hope to stay

06:38:22.200 And then 45, better looking, 10 years ago, 35.

06:38:24.680 Well, I don't know.

06:38:31.480 I'd say about the same.

06:38:33.600 Okay.

06:38:34.200 How about, so okay, better looking or about the same?

06:38:38.840 She's a baddie.

06:38:39.480 What about 25 versus 45, 20 years ago?

06:38:41.660 I would say it's probably better looking at 25.

06:38:42.820 Oh, she was.

06:38:43.720 Okay.

06:38:44.220 You're 29.

06:38:45.500 Yes.

06:38:46.080 Better looking in 10 years, 39.

06:38:47.560 I'm going to look like this forever.

06:38:50.020 Thanks to doctors.

06:38:51.000 So I'll look the same.

06:38:52.000 Good luck with that.

06:38:53.560 Thanks to Dr.

06:38:54.460 Okay, you're 29.

06:38:55.800 Were you better looking at 19 or better looking now?

06:38:58.220 You know, I actually think I look better now.

06:39:00.120 I think the 30s are the best years for women.

06:39:04.820 I also lost a lot of weight.

06:39:07.520 The face again.

06:39:08.760 You used to be fat?

06:39:09.540 I lost 50 pounds after my divorce.

06:39:12.880 Wow.

06:39:14.480 Look at the face again.

06:39:16.800 Brian.

06:39:18.180 Okay.

06:39:19.720 I looked at your Instagram.

06:39:22.000 i would fluctuate a lot you know the darker hair was nice i'm you should go back to the dark hair

06:39:27.600 your natural natural hair color um okay uh 38 better looking in 10 years at 48. wait closer

06:39:34.160 to the mic please no no uh and then were you better looking 10 years ago 28 yes better looking 18.

06:39:40.240 you're just running through those those uh scouses do you like scousers would you could

06:39:46.720 Could you imagine just, like, going to Poundtown with a Scouser woman?

06:39:51.080 What does that mean, going to Poundtown with a Scouser?

06:39:54.080 Poundtown?

06:39:54.580 What is that?

06:39:55.240 Can you say that with a received pronunciation?

06:39:58.820 Poundtown.

06:40:00.020 Poundtown.

06:40:00.600 What does that mean?

06:40:02.080 What does that mean?

06:40:02.680 Poundtown.

06:40:03.280 Poundtown.

06:40:03.840 What is that?

06:40:04.800 Sex.

06:40:05.440 Oh, sex.

06:40:06.080 Sex.

06:40:06.620 Have you ever had sex with a Scouser?

06:40:08.400 No.

06:40:08.580 With a Scouser?

06:40:09.140 With a Northerner?

06:40:10.500 No.

06:40:11.840 What's a Scouser?

06:40:12.560 She's a proper Southern.

06:40:15.020 We like, yeah, she's awesome.

06:40:16.720 Say bottle of water

06:40:21.560 A bottle of water

06:40:25.060 Wait, we need you back

06:40:28.240 Crystal, sit down

06:40:31.380 We've got a few more things

06:40:32.500 I know, I know

06:40:33.220 Say it's Tuesday, isn't it?

06:40:40.560 This is going to be awesome

06:40:41.740 All the teas

06:40:42.420 do you know what i mean say it we love your accent what do you what do you want me to say

06:40:49.600 it's tuesday isn't it why do your eyebrows have to go up so far isn't it

06:40:54.500 it's tuesday it's tuesday tuesday isn't it isn't it in it in it in it look at

06:41:01.900 three more things here just sit sit really quick sit really quick

06:41:08.720 Wait, and then we're going around

06:41:12.200 Oh, we'll finish

06:41:13.640 40, better looking in 10 years

06:41:15.380 I'm going to go with what she said

06:41:17.820 Hopefully it'll not deviate too much

06:41:19.900 But no, I think

06:41:21.460 Obviously we all age

06:41:23.080 Hopefully we age gracefully

06:41:24.840 It's like pulling teeth

06:41:27.520 Were you better looking at 30

06:41:29.720 10 years ago? I liked my 30s, yeah

06:41:32.020 Better looking at 20, then 40?

06:41:33.920 I liked my 20s too

06:41:34.620 You're 44, better looking in 10 years, 54?

06:41:36.920 Hell no.

06:41:37.700 And then were you better looking at 34?

06:41:39.640 Yes.

06:41:40.240 Better looking 24?

06:41:41.480 I feel like 30s was good for me.

06:41:42.960 30 was better.

06:41:43.520 Okay.

06:41:44.160 All right.

06:41:46.240 Hold on.

06:41:46.860 Let me see here.

06:41:48.200 Woman's past should not matter.

06:41:50.580 Body count.

06:41:52.720 Crystal, you agree.

06:41:56.100 These are kind of mixed up, so I don't know who else agreed on that.

06:42:02.860 Roxanne, agree.

06:42:05.320 Chase.

06:42:05.760 nope not on that one uh okay uh to the two that said body count should not matter passion not

06:42:14.440 matter why is that why is that starting with you chris c-dog is that your stripper name crystal

06:42:20.120 is that your actual name yes yeah oh it's a real name it is it is a real name

06:42:26.140 commonly used by strippers well you know my last name too so why should a woman's past not matter

06:42:36.500 body count you know i don't think i thoroughly thought that through so it should matter i think

06:42:41.420 it does matter i mean oh i don't know did you in all transparency you know you should disclose that

06:42:47.760 and it does matter uh i think it depends on the scenario on the situation i'm a believer right

06:42:53.140 and i believe anybody can be redeemed and i know my past has been redeemed so uh well so on that

06:43:00.520 note um you're talking from a like a christian perspective and i usually think from that

06:43:06.520 perspective yeah um but so uh from a christian perspective former sex workers porn stars

06:43:16.900 addict whatever it is right whatever it is you can be redeemed in the eyes of christ however

06:43:24.920 on earth there's nothing that would prevent even a christian man from being discerning

06:43:32.380 it's not unbiblical like a christian man could be like well she is saved in the eyes of christ

06:43:38.280 but a christian man does not then need to go and date a former sex worker absolutely it's up to

06:43:44.380 If he wants to, he can, but he can be like, don't want to date her because of X, Y, Z factors.

06:43:52.200 That's valid.

06:43:52.860 Well, and she's not a good man, so it looks like I have a good girlfriend.

06:43:57.360 She didn't struggle in that apartment.

06:43:59.100 Yeah.

06:43:59.500 No, my man is awesome.

06:44:02.140 The face again.

06:44:03.920 Okay.

06:44:05.320 Well, woman's passion doesn't matter.

06:44:07.640 Body count doesn't matter.

06:44:08.880 What's your body count?

06:44:09.820 Oh, mine's not crazy.

06:44:11.660 18.

06:44:12.880 18?

06:44:13.280 Okay.

06:44:13.800 What about you?

06:44:14.380 like 35 ish okay 30 oh i'm sorry let's start again i fucked up can you uh tell us your age

06:44:21.200 so say i'm 42 my body count is whatever 42 my body counts 18 i'm 27 and my body count is 35

06:44:30.520 i'm 23 my body count is one no age and i'm not telling you body count range do you want to do

06:44:37.720 range of body count not age just because we're not doing that again yeah i don't think yeah 10 10

06:44:44.940 plus 10 plus oh my gosh no i'm 45 and my body count is uh 10 or less it's around 10 and i when

06:44:53.300 i was saying my past has been redeemed i wasn't talking about body count i was just talking about

06:44:56.320 in general. I understand. Body count?

06:44:58.700 29 decline.

06:45:03.280 Look at that.

06:45:06.320 Do you want to give us a range?

06:45:08.100 No, I'm not going to give a range.

06:45:09.320 Do you want to give us a range? I just don't like that question.

06:45:12.060 I'm not answering it.

06:45:14.480 I thought we were homies.

06:45:17.020 I thought we were cool, brother.

06:45:18.540 You said you didn't like my hair color

06:45:19.960 and that really hurt my feelings. No, that's a compliment.

06:45:23.160 Yeah, but that's actually

06:45:24.360 a compliment if you think about it.

06:45:25.480 I actually did go darker.

06:45:26.460 I did actually go darker.

06:45:27.440 I'm saying I think your natural hair color, that's a compliment.

06:45:33.260 I'm saying what your hair actually is, that makes you look better.

06:45:37.100 You don't need that fake shit.

06:45:38.920 It is almost the same color.

06:45:41.600 But no, I'm unfortunately right.

06:45:43.400 I have to find the answer.

06:45:45.140 Is it more than 100?

06:45:46.980 Oh, gosh.

06:45:48.660 I have a real job.

06:45:49.960 I can't just lay there all day.

06:45:52.120 Good grief.

06:45:53.140 i don't know you had time in college wait a minute that's a good 300 is it between 10 and 20

06:46:01.660 i'm not i'm just declining next body count no i'm gay leave me

06:46:07.000 yeah i'm gay too leave me yeah age age body count age body count 41 and i

06:46:17.880 I'm not going to answer that either.

06:46:21.100 Boo.

06:46:22.540 Tomatoes, tomatoes, tomatoes.

06:46:24.480 In the chat, tomatoes.

06:46:26.600 Age body count?

06:46:27.660 44 and 6.

06:46:29.560 Okay, all right.

06:46:30.220 Well, I appreciate everyone who answered the question.

06:46:32.940 Yeah, and how many were honest.

06:46:35.720 That's a good question.

06:46:36.940 I guess I should press this.

06:46:38.140 Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.

06:46:41.660 That's not true.

06:46:43.580 Okay.

06:46:44.380 Wait.

06:46:47.880 I will call you a 10 if you reveal your body count.

06:46:51.280 Oh, wow.

06:46:52.240 No, just call me a 10.

06:46:53.400 Damn it.

06:46:54.260 I thought that shit would work.

06:46:56.000 All right.

06:46:56.860 I'll pay for your next Botox if you tell us your body count.

06:47:01.600 Oh, I'll tell you.

06:47:02.120 Donate it.

06:47:03.780 Donate it.

06:47:04.560 I'll pay for the next Botox.

06:47:06.440 All right.

06:47:07.100 I don't know.

06:47:07.720 Well, how about this?

06:47:08.540 To the women who said a woman's path, show of hands, a woman's path should not matter.

06:47:13.040 Should not matter?

06:47:13.760 Should not matter.

06:47:14.260 A woman's what?

06:47:14.800 Path should not matter.

06:47:15.720 When it comes to, like, dating.

06:47:17.480 everybody lives a life don't you want layers and like no i don't want layers definitely don't want

06:47:22.380 herpes layers of herpes scars and shit wait we're not talking about that but life experience is

06:47:28.400 important no i think if we're being realistic everyone's past matters right that's how we

06:47:33.520 discern if that person is is smart wise all the things what decisions they've made what decisions

06:47:38.640 they will possibly make in the future i mean well said yeah or you end up with a lindsey clancy

06:47:42.400 whoa um i would say um to the women show of hands again a woman's passion on matter you circled it

06:47:50.480 but i don't know if you didn't mean to circle oh you changed my oh why would you date you shouldn't

06:47:56.020 would you date a guy wait it's you and it's you and it's you it depends what does it do i mean

06:48:01.340 okay it's so much guy why shouldn't we a guy who you would you date a man

06:48:06.820 what would you do here focus focus focus focus i know that she she's she's you know she didn't

06:48:15.340 take her adhd meds today and she's she's she's hyper she's a little hyper

06:48:20.380 definitely not her

06:48:25.400 would you would you date a guy who used to be uh well i'm not would you date a guy who used to

06:48:34.740 have sex with men that's tough considering everything you know about me so i'd probably

06:48:42.880 oh right because you already did because i think ultimately they they don't like women and they

06:48:48.480 want cock no but let's assume in the hypothetical that they definitely want you they're not like

06:48:54.760 dl gay like they used to fuck dudes no but they're they're game for you do you know men like that is

06:49:03.780 Is that a man like that, that exists, that's just hypothetical.

06:49:06.040 I'm sure there's guys who are straight.

06:49:08.340 No.

06:49:08.960 And they used to fuck men.

06:49:10.760 What?

06:49:11.560 Oh.

06:49:12.220 Like, they're bisexual or whatever.

06:49:14.020 Yeah, I'm straight, but I used to fuck women.

06:49:16.540 Well, just take a bisexual guy who's like, it's clear cut that he likes both men and women.

06:49:21.660 And he's interested in you.

06:49:23.800 But he did, in fact, fuck and get fucked by men.

06:49:28.140 He's gonna want that thing.

06:49:30.180 But you could say that about straight men who want to fuck other women.

06:49:34.600 So, like, if your angle is, like, the infidelity.

06:49:37.500 It's a different sensation, I think, that a man could give you.

06:49:40.880 I can't give up my booty hole.

06:49:44.020 Well, not necessarily you giving up the booty hole.

06:49:46.920 You would have to give it up.

06:49:48.000 Oh, no.

06:49:48.580 I'm pegging him now?

06:49:49.940 I don't know.

06:49:50.780 Would you date the guy who used to fuck men?

06:49:54.380 I think if they have clearly had a change.

06:49:57.200 Yeah, say they changed.

06:49:58.300 You know, they don't do that anymore.

06:49:59.500 There's no attraction.

06:50:00.640 They're a Christian.

06:50:01.800 I would maybe consider.

06:50:02.920 Consider it.

06:50:03.420 it wouldn't bother you like in the dark recesses of your mind that he was in doggy style

06:50:09.560 he was he was in doggy style in a motel six maybe maybe not getting getting filled up

06:50:18.160 like a fucking glazed donut i'm just a kid i'm a kid and the bbc a glazed donut yeah i just learned

06:50:25.440 what that was i learned that was people were coming to that on my youtube and i was like

06:50:30.120 What the frick is a BBC?

06:50:31.640 And then my cousin was like, Eden.

06:50:34.060 And I was like, I don't know.

06:50:35.580 I don't know these things.

06:50:36.760 Let's see if there's anything else from the questionnaire here.

06:50:38.760 We got Crystal Mango.

06:50:40.200 Is that your last name's Mango?

06:50:42.600 It is.

06:50:43.200 That's kind of cool.

06:50:44.080 I like it.

06:50:44.680 That's kind of cool.

06:50:45.260 Way to share her name with us.

06:50:47.380 It's delicious.

06:50:48.460 She slurps.

06:50:51.360 Wrong for high body count men to prefer to date low body count women slash virgin women.

06:50:57.840 Crystal, you agree.

06:50:59.760 Amelia, agree.

06:51:01.340 Eden, agree.

06:51:08.340 Anyone else?

06:51:11.500 Chase, also agree.

06:51:13.280 Wrong for high body count men to prefer to date low body count virgin women.

06:51:17.700 Megan, agree.

06:51:20.120 Okay, why?

06:51:21.360 Just sounds like a conquest kind of situation, you know?

06:51:24.880 like i'm conquesting young virgin women my body count is high because i intentionally conquest

06:51:32.020 young virgin women it sounds creepy it doesn't imply in the question though that there's a

06:51:37.020 conquest component but they have a high body count and they prefer young virgin women correct so they

06:51:43.440 have a high body count from conquesting young virgin women because that's what they prefer

06:51:48.300 is conquest though

06:51:50.200 well okay because

06:51:51.980 is all sex conquest

06:51:53.620 well if he has a high body count

06:51:55.720 is he not going out of his way to have a high body count

06:51:58.480 doesn't necessarily

06:52:00.520 mean it's for conquest

06:52:02.340 well it could just mean you

06:52:04.260 well the young virgin part is the conquest

06:52:06.360 yeah the fact that they prefer

06:52:08.300 young virgin women makes it seem like

06:52:10.360 their body count is high because

06:52:12.360 they are only pursuing

06:52:14.360 deflowering young virgin women

06:52:16.460 and then once they're not virgins anymore they're moving on

06:52:18.220 okay even granting it was conquest why would it be wrong to want to conquest it just makes me

06:52:22.640 uncomfortable and if it makes me uncomfortable but couldn't you conquest high body count women

06:52:26.460 too uh but in the context you're saying that they prefer young virgin that'd be like us wanting

06:52:32.960 young virgin men or virgin well you can have that preference if you want but overwhelmingly women

06:52:38.600 don't want virgin men you want experienced men generally speaking um yeah but it's not there's

06:52:46.460 no there's no conquest component built into this it just kind of sounds uncomfortable the way the

06:52:52.320 question is is like it's not it's not the supposed hypocrisy i i don't think it's hypocritical but

06:52:58.960 i did i say hypocritical i just know i like what you said it sounds like a conquest yeah i just

06:53:04.840 so could you then a woman who's broke who wants to date a really rich guy is that conquest too

06:53:09.080 um yeah 100 i know a lot of women that are like incredibly obsessed with dating men who have

06:53:15.460 money or leading on men who have money. We have two here. If I was a gold digger, I would have

06:53:20.460 already been married a long time ago. And I'd be married right now to my 62 year old. You still

06:53:25.860 have the preference for the really high income man. I guess I don't sit inside that mindset

06:53:32.800 because I've dated older men that have decent amount of money. Fair enough. Anybody else want

06:53:38.100 to weigh on this? Crystal, you circled this wrong for high body count men to prefer to date

06:53:42.060 low body count slash virgin women why is that that's the question wrong i mean it's repeating

06:53:49.580 it for the third time here i know wrong wrong for high body count men to prefer to date low

06:53:54.100 body count virgin women why is that oh i think that's wrong because it doesn't seem fair i guess

06:53:59.720 doesn't seem how so well they're looking for something that they're not offering

06:54:04.600 which i don't think that's wrong and then they want low body okay broke women want to date

06:54:11.960 rich men okay to each their own i guess but also like not all of them who said we're broke

06:54:17.980 we would say that women who only want to date men who have a lot of money like that is a

06:54:23.020 prejudice that they're having like they're going out of their way to date a specific kind of man

06:54:27.300 regardless if they're a good person or not you know just like the high body count man is going

06:54:33.200 out of his way to have sex with a certain kind of women, regardless of if he likes them or not.

06:54:38.220 Well, we all have our preferences. And, um, my, my whole argument here is I don't think it's

06:54:46.440 wrong to desire a trait in another person that you don't possess. So in this case,

06:54:51.980 the man's high body count, he wants a woman who's a low body count. His trait is high body count.

06:54:58.200 her trait is low body count not wrong to desire a trait in a person you don't possess women who

06:55:05.880 are not funny definitely value men who are funny women who are not particularly wealthy would

06:55:11.600 definitely date and desire men who are wealthy women who are lacking in confidence definitely

06:55:16.820 appreciate confidence in men women who are not famous can i'm not saying all women necessarily

06:55:23.300 care about fame but like some women who are not famous definitely would date a famous guy yeah or

06:55:27.500 find that like more appealing or a high status guy or what that's successful,

06:55:31.640 whatever the metric is.

06:55:33.420 I don't agree with that.

06:55:34.660 The difference is I don't think it's wrong for a woman to desire a trait in a

06:55:38.900 man that she herself doesn't possess much in the same way that a man can

06:55:42.520 desire things in women that he himself doesn't possess.

06:55:45.880 I don't think that he's just going to have sex with her and put another notch

06:55:49.100 on her.

06:55:49.740 Or he could be like,

06:55:50.680 you know what?

06:55:51.200 I had fun when I was younger.

06:55:53.080 Now I'm looking for a long-term partner.

06:55:54.800 I think the woman who would be the best long-term partner is not a slut like me.

06:55:59.500 It's a low-body count or virgin woman.

06:56:01.900 Oh, that's a social worker.

06:56:02.660 Okay, well, then you've got to change the question.

06:56:04.800 Sorry, too many people talking at once.

06:56:06.440 I think you have to – then the question then becomes different because you're not looking at that sex with that person.

06:56:11.160 The question is prefer to date, not prefer to fuck.

06:56:16.240 But that's fair too, I think.

06:56:17.840 That's insinuated for sure.

06:56:20.400 What makes a person with a low-body count so much better than something with a higher?

06:56:23.760 I'll answer it if you tell me what your body count is.

06:56:25.340 Oh, no.

06:56:25.840 I'm not going to do that.

06:56:26.920 Okay, what's the question then?

06:56:27.940 If you say that women don't want a guy with a low body count, but guys want a woman with a low body count, usually a girl wouldn't want that because a guy is less experienced, but the guy wants the girl who's less experienced.

06:56:38.940 Right.

06:56:39.640 Yeah.

06:56:40.160 Well, there's a couple different reasons there for it.

06:56:43.340 There's a whole bunch of different – what was your question?

06:56:45.180 And I'll come back to that.

06:56:46.140 I mean, why do you value that so much?

06:56:48.120 What's the –

06:56:48.500 The low body count thing?

06:56:49.640 Yeah.

06:56:49.840 How does it make somebody a better partner?

06:56:51.440 Yeah, there's a couple different reasons that I could get into.

06:56:55.460 One, the immediate one is there's an evolutionary basis for it.

06:57:02.260 So if a woman, or sorry, let me start here.

06:57:08.580 Once the motorcycle passes, if a man has 10 wives and they're all loyal to him,

06:57:17.880 you know who the mother is in all instances.

06:57:20.160 you know who the father is in all instances if one woman

06:57:25.060 so cool good job guys cool um if one woman has 10 husbands

06:57:33.080 and she's sleeping with all of them they're just all blasting inside of her at the same time

06:57:37.580 fucking gross

06:57:38.320 who's the father well okay after she gives birth you can do a paternity test

06:57:46.040 and that was the case as recently as like the 80s and 90s we that's a paternity test our new

06:57:52.820 invention so men have a greater investment in paternity certainty so if a woman is sleeping

06:58:00.180 with multiple men if she's promiscuous if there's infidelity beyond 40 years ago when we had

06:58:08.120 paternity tests there's no way to actually really guarantee that the child is yours

06:58:12.320 as a woman you can never have this fear if you have a kid you pop a child out your pussy

06:58:17.820 out your vagina that's your kid you can't be like duped oh i'm it's another woman's kid

06:58:25.200 no it's happened how just with uh inserting the wrong egg into the wrong person but very

06:58:32.820 medical malpractice kind of situation okay but that's that's not what we're talking about yeah

06:58:39.080 i know whereas for a man um if the woman's promiscuous or whatever uh it's a lot easier

06:58:47.980 you know we're talking body count it doesn't mean like it's related it's a higher body count

06:58:53.620 doesn't mean that she's necessarily sleeping with multiple people if you're a monogamous person it's

06:58:57.340 the understanding that your relationship will be no but the idea of okay there's a like sort of

06:59:02.160 built-in disgust factor that men are going to have for a couple well i mean both men and women

06:59:06.980 are going to have a disgust factor when somebody's, generally speaking, because for health

06:59:12.680 reasons, STD risk. So somebody who's sleeping with multiple people, being more promiscuous,

06:59:17.240 who has a higher body count, higher likelihood of STDs, whether temporary or permanent STDs.

06:59:23.660 So there's that disgust factor, but men have it higher. Well, there's a whole bunch of reasons,

06:59:29.980 but the big thing is evolutionarily speaking, men are more invested in body count because

06:59:36.660 like I said, we have a paternity concern that you women don't have. And so that's why men are

06:59:45.400 more invested in a woman's purity, sexual purity, sexual morality, her body count, because like

06:59:53.060 we can take a really big L that you guys can't take, which is assuming the woman's like either

07:00:01.640 unaware or dupes us we could raise a kid that's not ours thinking it's ours pouring resources

07:00:07.720 pouring love into a child that's not ours thinking it's ours that's a huge betrayal that's like the

07:00:14.420 biggest like fuckery you can deal with one of the biggest fuckeries you can deal with as a man in

07:00:20.220 life yeah is getting like and she could basically deny you passing on your genes if she fucks you

07:00:26.760 that badly and then what would you do with the kid would you not love the kid if you found out

07:00:30.980 it wasn't yours after you raised it what point am i discovering that the kid's not mine i don't

07:00:39.240 know maybe the kid finds out in their 20s uh i think if you've like raised this kid to 18 years

07:00:47.220 old and you assumed it was your kid for this entire time you'd probably still have love for

07:00:51.200 the kid i think some of the love would diminish yeah but if like a year a year in it's goodbye

07:00:58.320 two years in it's goodbye yeah it's divorce it's breakup abandonment goodbye yeah that's like the

07:01:06.460 one of the biggest patrol one to two years in you get super connected to don't give a fuck it's not

07:01:11.560 my blood goodbye now if i voluntarily choose to adopt a child where i'm voluntarily agreeing to

07:01:19.560 the terms of the kid not being biologically mine then that's different and i'll but if i've been

07:01:25.460 deceived like that by a woman it's over you're done you huzz there would be there would be a lot

07:01:33.360 of there would be there would be a lot of temptations there but um it's over the

07:01:39.280 relationship's over i'm walking away good luck raising your bastard child or whatever spawn of

07:01:44.660 satan spawn ups there's the kids look the kid is kind of innocent in this the kids the kid's a

07:01:51.700 A victim of the mother destined to be just like it.

07:01:55.820 But this doesn't put a burden on me to then raise this kid.

07:02:04.080 Like, you as the woman did some shady shit.

07:02:07.460 I'm out.

07:02:08.180 Goodbye.

07:02:09.780 I don't know.

07:02:10.140 Ladies here at the table, should a good man stick around after you deceived him as to the paternity of his children?

07:02:17.080 Should he?

07:02:17.720 No, that's not a should or an ought claim.

07:02:19.700 No, absolutely not.

07:02:21.000 because that's what if they were having an affair because the deceit that's there is on purpose what

07:02:26.060 do you mean having an affair no well this is actually a very interesting topic and it's a

07:02:30.700 lot closer to home than you know and the parents my parents were having an affair

07:02:39.140 and my mom got pregnant with me and i found out at 25 years old

07:02:47.340 that it was not my dad.

07:02:50.800 And he didn't know either.

07:02:52.400 Oh my god.

07:02:54.100 I went to my brother's wedding.

07:02:55.800 If I was on the jury for a murder.

07:02:57.160 I went to my brother's wedding.

07:02:58.460 If I was on the...

07:03:00.240 Yo.

07:03:01.400 And you want to know?

07:03:02.420 I never told my dad.

07:03:03.220 This sounds so bad.

07:03:04.560 What did you say to your mom?

07:03:05.780 And my dad just found out.

07:03:07.120 That's a manslaughter.

07:03:08.340 And the way he responded was atrocious.

07:03:12.040 Absolutely.

07:03:12.640 He's heartbroken.

07:03:13.920 Yo, Chad.

07:03:15.260 Do you still have a relationship with him?

07:03:16.760 What did you say to your mom?

07:03:18.860 No, when I moved to California, they were bitter.

07:03:23.160 They tried to force me with money to stay in Texas,

07:03:27.100 and I chose to still go to California.

07:03:29.020 So my relationship with my father definitely became a little topsy-turvy

07:03:33.880 because he just tried to buy my love, you know?

07:03:36.200 Gosh.

07:03:37.380 I think I have a better story, actually.

07:03:39.680 Would it be wrong to murder the woman?

07:03:41.880 Yes, obviously.

07:03:43.040 But my mom wanted to do a paternity test.

07:03:45.340 Oh, wait, wait, wait.

07:03:46.220 Can you come back?

07:03:47.140 Wait, but now you just make the child a dwarf in.

07:03:49.380 Show us the tattoo.

07:03:50.320 When you're back, when you're back.

07:03:51.700 Okay, sorry.

07:03:52.340 Go ahead and continue.

07:03:53.620 Well, the same thing kind of happened to somebody in my family, and they found out because they did 23andMe.

07:03:59.700 Oh, no.

07:04:00.620 The father wasn't the father.

07:04:02.820 Oh, my gosh.

07:04:04.400 See, that's what I mean.

07:04:05.240 Like, that's deceitful.

07:04:06.640 That's evil.

07:04:07.940 It's not fair.

07:04:08.140 Because I think flat out that's evil, that's deceitful.

07:04:11.800 if a man lies to a woman we have all types of issues with the fact that that man lied he's the

07:04:17.640 worst man ever but when a woman lies to a man especially when you're talking about something

07:04:22.520 that they cannot control but what if there's no lying they didn't know nobody knew you know see

07:04:28.040 that's not how that works like you like we we have an obligation we have an obligation i think

07:04:35.020 in a responsibility that goes beyond just pretending like we don't know or thinking we don't

07:04:41.080 know like that's not okay that's just i'm yeah i i mean no scoot into the table a little bit uh

07:04:48.580 cool sweet wait can you move there now sorry we're doing musical chairs here all right just moving

07:04:55.420 people around a little bit okay um let's blast through the rest of questionnaire we got some

07:04:59.540 show notes hopefully try to get get this wrapped up hopefully pretty soon yeah i just i moved things

07:05:06.260 around a little bit um okay let's finish up with some of the stuff on the questionnaire

07:05:11.340 uh oh final sort of not final thing for you

07:05:16.780 you said that the uh looks rating thing is superficial and vapid i don't like it

07:05:25.440 oh what is he gonna say one million a year and 5 11 don't you think it's a little superficial

07:05:33.700 What about his heart?

07:05:35.020 What about his heart?

07:05:35.500 You didn't ask all the other variables.

07:05:37.500 I could give you a laundry list of other things that matter.

07:05:40.140 If it was just one million in height, I would have already been married.

07:05:44.600 Do you understand what I'm saying?

07:05:46.560 If those variables overruled everything else.

07:05:49.700 Are you zero Indian?

07:05:51.240 What are you?

07:05:51.600 If you ask me all my ethnicities, it's South Indian, Eritrean, Irish.

07:05:58.960 Eritrean?

07:05:59.940 Irish.

07:06:01.540 And then there's some Spanish.

07:06:03.120 No black, though.

07:06:04.360 Are you allowed to say the N-word?

07:06:05.640 Probably not.

07:06:06.420 I don't subscribe to black or white.

07:06:08.440 It doesn't exist.

07:06:10.680 It doesn't.

07:06:11.200 You know it doesn't exist.

07:06:12.160 It's like that Michael Jackson song.

07:06:13.720 But you know it doesn't matter, baby, it don't matter if you're black or white.

07:06:18.300 Oh, shit, she got pipes, yo.

07:06:20.840 Yeah, it doesn't exist.

07:06:21.640 So that's one of those logical things.

07:06:24.640 It's what it came about with in the last 200 years where we say that instead of just actually getting to know people.

07:06:29.600 Well, I mean, the skin color is indeed the skin color.

07:06:31.540 yeah but that's what we're just we're just we're just levels of melanin same colored levels of

07:06:36.200 that's right and the reality is if you want to get to know people there are some genetic differences

07:06:39.780 but that's too much for tonight's show yeah there's genetic differences there's genetic

07:06:45.360 differences in everyone well everyone has the same like okay thank you for that um like african

07:06:51.060 americans are more susceptible to sickle cell anemia for example that's because the amount

07:06:55.360 of melanin predispositions like white people are more susceptible to certain um diseases too yeah

07:07:00.240 less amount of melanin. Okay, let me

07:07:02.220 blast through the questionnaire. Anything interesting

07:07:04.200 here? We got Amelia. You would not say the

07:07:06.200 police officer. Why is that?

07:07:07.980 I don't know. I've just always been scared of cops since

07:07:10.240 I was little. I used to sell weed when high school.

07:07:12.760 You are such a good dealer.

07:07:14.960 You got in a lot of trouble.

07:07:15.920 I definitely have a couple of misdemeanors under my belt.

07:07:18.520 Also, the cops

07:07:20.140 in Florida like using the flock cameras

07:07:22.380 to harass their exes and stuff like

07:07:24.340 that. I just want to stay off their radar

07:07:26.400 with tickets, with

07:07:28.240 the law, with

07:07:29.280 Dating

07:07:30.760 Fair enough

07:07:31.400 Okay

07:07:32.600 Well, whatever

07:07:33.560 Roxanne

07:07:35.540 A woman should not be rejected

07:07:36.960 Because of her weight

07:07:38.040 Why is that?

07:07:40.420 Should not be rejected

07:07:41.640 Because of her weight?

07:07:42.900 You agree with that?

07:07:43.760 I agree with that

07:07:44.400 Absolutely

07:07:44.660 Yeah, why?

07:07:45.740 Who would think

07:07:46.500 Why would somebody think

07:07:47.380 She should be rejected

07:07:48.040 Because of her weight?

07:07:49.740 I mean, because it's not

07:07:50.580 They don't prefer

07:07:51.660 Preference

07:07:52.040 Okay, well, that's fine

07:07:53.480 It's a preference

07:07:54.600 I think she meant in general

07:07:55.720 Yeah, in general

07:07:56.480 But yeah, if it's somebody's preference

07:07:57.740 Of course

07:07:58.240 No, no, not

07:07:58.980 not just like someone's preference like i don't know maybe it's like a job or i don't know i don't

07:08:02.460 know what she was thinking but i'm assuming well it's a dating podcast so i think like we're

07:08:05.680 secretly getting all his preferences well i mean naturally somebody if they they prefer not to

07:08:10.560 date somebody has a little more weight then that's but is it wrong well no not if it's your

07:08:16.300 preference but i just don't think that it takes away i think my brain when i was when i was saying

07:08:21.820 that is i i don't think that would take away from somebody's beauty but yes people everybody has a

07:08:26.860 different preference fair enough uh let's see there was also uh women do not have equal rights

07:08:34.540 to men in the usa to which you agree uh how so why is that say it again women do not have equal

07:08:39.740 rights to men in the usa to which you agree i said women do not have equal rights no i

07:08:44.800 perhaps it was mistaken circle i said i i believe women do have do have equal rights

07:08:49.340 actually no maybe i did say that intentionally sorry i'm getting tired now um uh we don't have

07:08:54.600 equal rights and everything but i'm not anti that so like for example you want the patriarch i do

07:09:01.800 and that's because you know going back to what we were saying earlier i like the fact that you

07:09:05.340 know we we have access to higher education and we have we can sell property and do forms and

07:09:11.120 things the way that we should be but yeah i do not want all the male jobs that we were talking

07:09:16.240 about earlier i do not want to be sent off to the military i do not don't sign me up so i'm like

07:09:21.320 I would draft her right away

07:09:24.200 I'm sending you to the front

07:09:26.220 I'm sending you to Iran

07:09:28.460 Oh my god, Brian

07:09:30.100 Why do you want me to go to Iran?

07:09:32.940 To fight, because you're a boss babe

07:09:34.500 I didn't say I'm a boss babe

07:09:36.600 You're going to find your

07:09:37.480 5 million dollars

07:09:39.340 Iranian prince

07:09:40.720 No, thank you

07:09:42.100 No, thank you

07:09:44.140 No disagreement then

07:09:46.160 Let's see

07:09:47.220 I guess you're here now

07:09:50.140 she's gonna we got chase banks

07:09:54.500 oh no

07:09:57.280 uh so okay you say guys it gets worse it gets worse oh no what it gets worse can you stop with

07:10:06.240 your interjections that come on i went over this before stop with the way did you do

07:10:11.420 she's enjoying a snack or something okay who cares this is exactly this is what i mean by

07:10:21.060 no sidebar conversations okay chase banks men should pay on first dates men should provide

07:10:25.220 protect men should be show horse you want a guy who's six foot one ideally six foot four you want

07:10:29.820 a guy who makes five million dollars a year minimum you will keep your last name or hyphenated

07:10:35.620 marriage oh why i want my kids to have my last name too because i'm carrying them they're my kids

07:10:41.800 you keep chipping away at the pool of men that would date you bro i'm only looking for one guy

07:10:52.620 men should pay on dates men should provide protect men should be chivalrous

07:10:57.580 six one ideally six four on a date i a man has never had the audacity to ask me to pay on a date

07:11:03.640 somebody should then i would i'm not gonna do it so if you ask me that i'm not going to

07:11:11.840 cool love that for you um you will keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage i did i kept my last

07:11:19.560 name in my first marriage um but i planned on hyphenating it but we didn't get to that point

07:11:23.780 men this is this is what you gotta to get chase you gotta make five m five million a year you

07:11:30.220 got to be six foot one but she's going to resent you that you're not six foot four if you are six

07:11:34.640 foot one i'm getting a call it's him he's calling me right now i don't know what you're doing

07:11:39.700 she says she she believes in traditional gender roles for the man for the man men should pay on

07:11:46.860 first dates men should provide protect men should be chivalrous but she will keep her last name or

07:11:51.420 hyphen name what about the and you said the kids get your last name too i want my kids to have my

07:11:55.220 last name are you serious are you actually serious banks that's not your real last name

07:12:01.740 so we don't but look for real so we don't waste time on the back and forth like if you're just

07:12:06.880 making something up i i want to have a good faith convo so if it's not your i do actually if it's

07:12:11.760 not your position i don't want to have the convo if it's just a troll no i'm not trolling i do want

07:12:16.640 my kids to have my last name your last name okay i'm carrying them for nine months and doing a lot

07:12:21.280 of the emotional labor as the woman this is men women want traditional treatment they're not

07:12:26.820 willing to adhere to their own traditional expectations the traditional expectation

07:12:31.160 is if you have kids you marry a guy you take his last name but even further than that you know

07:12:37.380 maybe that can be somewhat negotiable in 2026 the kids get his last name

07:12:42.020 five million a year six foot one you got pay on dates got to provide got to protect got to be

07:12:49.440 chivalrous she keeps her last name the kids get her last name what a fucking l bro what

07:12:56.120 what do you women think i've been i've been on her case i think you're generalizing with that

07:13:02.340 statement because i don't agree with that at all like i don't agree with her like i think that

07:13:07.620 like for me i i understand that lineage passes down through the man money passes down through

07:13:13.500 men men do i think that a man is just as responsible for that child protecting me making

07:13:19.380 sure i'm okay it's half his baby like it like it's i i don't understand how we separate that

07:13:25.880 like we don't like i i don't understand that like i i've never understood like the whole understanding

07:13:31.740 of he's he's not he's not the father like i don't treat him like a father i treat it like i'm a

07:13:36.980 mother who's basically had a guy do the artificial insemination and i treat him like he's a liability

07:13:43.160 i would never do that okay um

07:13:47.400 i think it's showing honor and respect personally from like my point of view i'm not saying every

07:13:57.380 guy would be opposed to it there might be a guy you know that is okay with that but usually i

07:14:01.660 feel like it's like a respect thing too like okay like you know like she said lineage it's just kind

07:14:06.280 of like a you know a thing it's like okay like it's a name you know do you need some ritalin

07:14:14.580 you need a little ritalin does anyone have some adderall for her or something

07:14:21.040 it's too late to take the adderall yeah bro uh okay that's just ridiculous completely ridiculous

07:14:29.180 um uh now you also here next to me christian right christian uh you will keep your last name

07:14:38.160 or hyphenated marriage you are married uh hyphenated or you kept your last name i never

07:14:43.320 changed my what about the kids kids have their dad's last name okay fair that's that's at least

07:14:47.480 halfway there or perhaps even a bit more than halfway um fine i think this is the final thing

07:14:52.540 on the questionnaire then we're getting to the notes then we have a fun segment one or two of

07:14:56.820 those new segment that we just introduced last week that's quite fun yeah um he said fun it was

07:15:04.060 the rating i know he said uh chase chase yes on the questionnaire it asks do you have any

07:15:10.480 disagreements with the show slash hosts to which you said tons what do you want to list those out

07:15:18.240 really quickly we won't be able to get through all of them but maybe we can do one or two i think

07:15:22.340 there's, I think that there's probably too much to go through. Well, just list it and we won't

07:15:27.920 tackle all of it. Oh, you know, I think that I disagree with your views on women. Um, that's

07:15:35.220 super vague, be specific. Well, you just, honestly, when I listened to you, you just seem like

07:15:40.980 something happened to you that made you have all these weird views who hurt you. Okay. But so you,

07:15:46.260 again, you need to be more specific. What are the views I have? So even if they are caused by your

07:15:52.300 you're you alleging that i was hurt in the past what are the specific views that you take issue

07:15:59.080 with um for example a man having a high body count but expecting the women to not have a high

07:16:06.840 body count i personally think that you attract the energy that you put out and so if you're

07:16:12.660 a man who's kind of sledding around and you expect a woman who's a churchgoer you're not

07:16:18.920 going to attract that because she probably also wants a church going man too so you just you're

07:16:24.360 not putting out the energy of a person that's but we already went over this so my perspective is

07:16:29.860 it's not wrong to desire a trait in a partner that you don't that you don't possess so so women do

07:16:38.080 this all the time and it's not wrong like i said she's not funny wants a funny guy she's broke she

07:16:44.100 wants a rich guy uh she's not confident she wants a confident guy that's not wrong that's that's

07:16:49.180 just that's just kind of basic and assumed men value sexual purity more than women value sexual

07:16:55.760 purity in men and so as a guy at arguably as a guy as you become more experienced you actually

07:17:04.280 perhaps can start to recognize and acknowledge that maybe low body count women are potentially

07:17:11.580 better partners so why would it be we all want to get the best that we can get if it is the case

07:17:16.960 that generally speaking low body count women that's preferred why would you not go for the

07:17:22.620 your preference i think you should go for your preference i just think that this is more of a

07:17:29.960 um like this is more of like a lifestyle choice and if you want somebody who's in that certain

07:17:36.960 lifestyle then you should also embody that like a person who wants you don't make 5m you want a guy

07:17:42.860 who makes 5m well i think of it more as like a person who wants a fit partner but is not fit

07:17:49.100 themselves you know you're not gonna you're not gonna go and do the same things like i'm gonna

07:17:52.760 want to go and run a 5k and climb up a mountain and that might not be something that you want to

07:17:57.340 do so that's a compatibility issue well that's compatible i don't think that me not having five

07:18:03.720 million and wanting somebody who has five million dollars is a cap incompatibility issue i think

07:18:08.220 that definitely incompatibility i don't think so could be a compatibility issue i don't think so

07:18:13.800 it's not so why but why what would be incompatible against a guy who maybe his he has a high body

07:18:20.020 count and he's like you know what looking for a wife looking for a girlfriend uh prefer to date

07:18:25.920 a low body count woman for that i think it's morals um i believe a guy who a woman who wants

07:18:32.940 a woman who's marriage minded and has a low body count and values purity is most likely going to

07:18:41.480 want a man who also values those same things and embodies those same things. So I'm not saying

07:18:46.520 it has to be zero, but it can't be a 12 million. But that's a fine standard to have. I'm not saying

07:18:52.320 that, I'm not saying the woman in this, so the high body count man who wants to date a low body

07:18:57.700 count woman. I'm not saying that the low body count woman has to date the high body count man

07:19:03.900 or she can't have a preference against him. I'm saying the, the, whether or not the high

07:19:09.660 body count man can get a low body count woman, that's another question, but him wanting that

07:19:16.420 low body count woman, that's completely fine. Okay. I think that's fine. And I think that

07:19:21.900 I think that's fine.

07:19:23.820 I can agree with that.

07:19:24.560 I say a lot of things that you disagree with,

07:19:26.880 and because you think I was hurt by a woman or whatever,

07:19:31.880 what are the other disagreements?

07:19:35.100 What are the things I say you disagree with?

07:19:37.460 Because we already talked about the high body count, low body count thing.

07:19:41.440 What are the other disagreements?

07:19:43.140 My brain's a little fried.

07:19:44.860 Oh, come on.

07:19:45.980 Suck it up.

07:19:47.200 I'm trying to – I watched a lot of your episodes, actually,

07:19:50.920 to get ready for this so i'm trying to clips or episodes no i i like listen to full episodes you

07:19:56.760 fall asleep to my voice and i would go to the gym and it would make me angry so i'd work out really

07:20:02.180 hard does that ever make you horny no

07:20:04.980 go ahead continue what do you you you've listened to all these episodes go ahead what else do you

07:20:14.860 disagree with i really i cannot think of one come on you said you said tons i asked do you

07:20:20.640 have any disagreements you said tons i know but they're all like flying out of my brain right now

07:20:25.940 oh man and i remember i was on the the hip thrust machine specifically and you're thinking about me

07:20:32.300 that's kind of weird she was thrusting her hips i've never seen you when i was going to see

07:20:36.960 yes score it's like this it's uh and it's uh yes yes well that's awesome that's what i was asking

07:20:48.500 you about the shelf butt that's what i was working on the shelf you were working on the shelf

07:20:52.340 really hard i don't make 5m and i'm sorry sorry it's not gonna work i'm not okay what do you

07:21:02.040 disagree with well i don't i don't need a virgin i don't need a virgin but that was never my claim

07:21:07.520 what do you disagree with um i'm i mean i guess the plastic surgery too we already talked about

07:21:15.960 down there. Is there anything we haven't talked about tonight that you disagree with?

07:21:19.520 I cannot think of anything. Okay. So then just we'll do plastic surgery. And if anything comes

07:21:23.900 to you, we can maybe dive into it later. Uh, really quick. What's the plastic surgery

07:21:27.920 disagreement? I mean, I think that sometimes it can come out like you come off as somebody who

07:21:35.140 wants everybody to bend to your will, but you can't really, all you can do is control what

07:21:40.020 you put out. You can't bend everybody else to do what you want to do, you know? So it's like,

07:21:44.500 you can just like plastic surgery i do yeah and so you can just say i'm not going to date people

07:21:51.500 that have plastic surgery and you know but i just feel like sometimes the way you speak makes it

07:21:58.940 sound like you kind of want everybody to follow these rules that you have for yourself uh well

07:22:06.480 so if we're talking about somebody's perspective and you think the world would be better if

07:22:13.500 then yes i do it would be nice if people had my shared or shared my perspective

07:22:20.980 but obviously people have agency they have autonomy they make their own decisions

07:22:26.120 they make their own mistakes so i don't understand like

07:22:31.460 i'm trying to think if there's an example i can think of

07:22:36.080 i think she just disagrees with your tone it's the tone

07:22:42.440 time yeah yeah the the delivery side on yeah but i think i i don't believe in this idea that okay

07:22:49.820 we're gonna coddle our way to convincing people no and i'm not even particularly interested in

07:22:55.880 necessarily convincing you guys maybe i've convinced some of you on some things tonight

07:22:59.840 i think a lot of it was just unwarranted we didn't ask for it a lot of it was unwarranted

07:23:06.920 did you drink today be honest no i've had to every time you talk you said you're intelligent

07:23:13.720 i actually think it's really low iq to when i'm exhausted no but it was at the beginning the

07:23:19.640 middle now we're towards the end of the show you say you're this smart woman and you bring all this

07:23:24.600 value it's it's unvaluable to me that i have to tell you every single time you speak to get up

07:23:32.620 onto the microphone we told you in the pre-show notes tiffany told you i gave you guys a reminder

07:23:37.600 one minute before we went live you claim you're this like super intelligent woman every other

07:23:42.480 woman i've maybe had to remind people once or twice about 10 times you haven't scratched mine

07:23:47.040 once that's true i've told you to get up i'm non-sequitur objection relevance like what

07:23:54.020 i've told you repeat it every time you talk almost every time you talk it's like

07:23:59.180 get up on the mic come on okay i just think if you have to constantly tell like repeat

07:24:06.640 like you have to constantly tell someone to fix something and they don't mean podcasting is not

07:24:12.480 my thing i came on here because she invited me it's low i'm exhausted so i could be get i could

07:24:22.180 be recovering

07:24:24.120 and like in the beginning I don't

07:24:26.220 think that I was let me finish

07:24:28.120 before you interrupt with your incoherent

07:24:30.580 babble

07:24:31.020 I could be on my third BBL

07:24:34.020 surgery in the fucking recovery

07:24:36.200 bed

07:24:36.660 like on the drugs that the

07:24:40.160 what are they the anesthesia

07:24:42.220 and I could still remember

07:24:44.220 I could still do this

07:24:46.160 I could still oh I got to

07:24:48.220 speak close to the mic it's not that hard

07:24:49.860 just fix it

07:24:50.960 how many is this what you do in a relationship a guy has to tell you 10 20 30 times

07:24:55.780 can you please change this one thing that i'm asking you to do

07:24:59.600 i don't know look at she just

07:25:03.900 i don't know if that was intentional but you didn't even get onto the mic for you to say i don't know

07:25:11.220 okay all right whatever um moving on moving on agreed um okay i think i'm done with the

07:25:20.720 any, did any other disagreements came to mind? Okay. Yes. When we were just talking,

07:25:26.480 how you speak to women, because I don't think that if one of us told you to shut up, you would

07:25:31.640 act, you would, you would take it very kindly. So sometimes the way you speak to people,

07:25:35.720 I don't think that you are able, you can dish it, but you can't take it.

07:25:39.600 Well, if we give you specific instructions to not interrupt, and I'm already upset or frustrated by

07:25:46.040 your lack of following our rules. By the way, she's been doing sidebars the entire night. I'll

07:25:51.300 know if, I'll know if you, who's instigating it. I think you were telling her to stop a couple of

07:25:56.140 times. I'm gay. Leave me alone. We told you not to sidebar. You're sidebar, sidebarring. You're

07:26:01.940 talking out of turn. You can't speak to the microphone. You're feral. You're completely

07:26:05.340 feral. So I'm sorry that after a seven hour podcast, my patience has been exhausted. A lot

07:26:12.420 of people think i'm actually very patient with the level of say misconduct and not following the

07:26:17.320 rules that people uh demonstrate here on the podcast she's not following the rules i'm not

07:26:22.960 talking about this instance i'm i've listened to a lot of your episodes and i'm saying throughout

07:26:27.840 today you are actually pretty tame compared to some of the ones that i had listened to

07:26:31.440 previously i think this is pretty average show there's been moments i've been a little spicy

07:26:35.600 but if you're going to interrupt especially when it's like incoherent like this i'm going to tell

07:26:42.320 you to shut up after we we tell you multiple times don't interrupt and we give some leeway

07:26:48.460 it's not going to be the first interruption saying you keep doing it you keep doing it

07:26:51.780 she's been sidebarring all night she hasn't been speaking into the mic

07:26:54.740 so your disagreement is it's meta it's just this it's how you speak to people

07:27:05.580 because i don't think if we were telling you to shut up and oh you're one i'm the host i know so

07:27:11.460 I, so I have to move things along. I got a button for clarifying questions. Uh, as the host,

07:27:17.800 I'm going to run the conversation and that's going to entail interrupting. But when you're

07:27:23.640 just like sitting there and you're just blurting something out, that's not material to the

07:27:27.880 conversation in hand and yeah. And so, and then like when I'm trying to come in and people are

07:27:34.220 not getting quiet as i'm trying to settle things down if you don't stop talking when i'm like

07:27:42.000 being polite about it i gotta up the ante a little bit much like if a police officer

07:27:49.120 uh and the person's resisting arrest there's going to be an escalation of force that's going

07:27:55.660 to happen in this case there's an escalation of going from polite telling someone to be quiet

07:28:01.500 stop doing that we already told you the rules to shut up then it's going to be shut the fuck up

07:28:06.420 and then it's going to be a kick out that's how it is your pod so should i just tolerate

07:28:15.800 people interrupting i think this is a leading question i wasn't asking about i wasn't asking

07:28:22.100 about tolerating people uh interrupting i was saying i don't like your tone these are two

07:28:28.220 different points you were like brian you said shut up to somebody who was interrupting no i said i

07:28:33.000 don't like how you're speaking to somebody who's interrupting i think there's kinder ways to be

07:28:36.940 and i don't think that you would tolerate that same attitude it's going to be different because

07:28:41.780 i'm the host right uh so yeah okay we can move on oh boy all right what's interesting though

07:28:51.420 is um you can only view things from the frame of i'm doing something wrong and no by the way this

07:28:57.860 is your friend who you invited to join you on the podcast she's been and i i don't this this word is

07:29:03.060 a bit patronizing she's been misbehaving the entire night she's been doing sidebar conversations

07:29:08.080 she's been talking out of turn multiple times i gave her a bunch of leeway maybe you as the

07:29:13.100 friend could have been like hey shh before it got to here but no does any of the other girls agree

07:29:22.200 with this and don't be well of course the sister the sisterhood there's a good there's a high

07:29:29.800 likelihood that they're going to be like brian mean brian bad guy no i know this is my third

07:29:34.580 this is my third time on this podcast i know how brian likes to run his show this is how he runs

07:29:40.060 every single show this is how he treats every single person who doesn't go along with the way

07:29:46.040 that he structures you know he does this every single week so in order to make it flow as best

07:29:50.700 as he can he has certain rules do I think sometimes he's a little you know but he does this every week

07:29:57.620 so I think he kind of knows the best way that he can make it go along and you know it's his so I

07:30:04.020 can't really fault him for acting however you know way he chooses to handle the situation

07:30:09.340 I'm just a real follower I read like you're because I've watched your show I don't know

07:30:16.500 about anyone else i've been watching your show for like for like years like i i know and i know

07:30:23.180 like i've seen charlie kirk on here i've seen all the people on here and so i feel like logically

07:30:28.460 like if you say hey i want and then i'm also a recording artist so i know you should be on the

07:30:33.240 mic and i know that matters a lot for a show so if you don't follow the rules over and over and

07:30:39.480 over again to me that's illogical and to i don't think that you're overly mean now were you overly

07:30:44.780 mean to me earlier brian yes but i know that at the same time you're like pushing back and so and

07:30:49.880 i'm used to that like my papa's the same way my dad's the same way so i don't get offended by that

07:30:53.900 i think most men are strong-minded like that i think do i love the way you talk to women

07:30:59.360 not always but this is your podcast and we said yes to coming on here and i

07:31:04.720 believe that you are just keeping the flow he talks like that to guys also that's true like

07:31:09.240 i've seen him like go maybe i haven't seen enough episodes but what i've seen i have i this is pretty

07:31:14.120 consistent i think i started we knew what we were we were signing up for what's the blue destiny

07:31:18.040 oh my gosh like he's gone ham on like if you sound like illogical or if you do things just

07:31:23.900 to like troll he doesn't like i called anyone a retard tonight yeah me several times yes did i

07:31:31.020 like three times i think i did it's gonna get clipped and then i'm gonna have to try to

07:31:34.780 i've been pretty you normally more retards slip out a couple of times all right well whatever

07:31:42.060 I'm going to move it on.

07:31:43.700 We're going to play a fun game now.

07:31:45.400 It's called This or That.

07:31:51.080 Oh, my gosh.

07:31:52.120 Wait, what is it?

07:31:52.900 The game is This or That, option one, option two, option A, option B.

07:31:58.140 Let's do it.

07:31:58.380 So I require everyone, you need to stand up for this,

07:32:02.440 so screw your chairs back a little bit.

07:32:03.860 You've got to stand up.

07:32:05.160 Okay.

07:32:06.000 I wish I had more space in the studio.

07:32:08.640 I wish I had more space in the studio to do it like normally.

07:32:11.900 or whatever next to you i'm so sure um wait so what do we do we do anything with the mic

07:32:16.340 so i guess we're gonna have to uh we'll have to tiffany you'll have to switch

07:32:20.540 the camera maybe when i don't know okay or i guess we could do it here maybe i don't know so

07:32:28.020 do we do anything with the mics or are they okay no so um what you're gonna do is i'm gonna give

07:32:36.820 you an option one so option one you you stay facing forward option two you turn around 180

07:32:43.740 you turn around 180

07:32:45.580 ready okay so option one you stay if that's what you pick option two turn around if you pick option

07:33:00.780 two. Millionaire, so this is

07:33:04.680 for you. Millionaire at 35, stay, or

07:33:08.700 mother at 35, turn.

07:33:15.200 What is it?

07:33:17.740 For you.

07:33:21.360 Oh, a mother, turn around? Yeah, so you either

07:33:24.160 millionaire at 35, stay, or you're a mother at 35,

07:33:28.960 turn around. And, um, this would mean if you're a millionaire at 35, you're not a mother. And if

07:33:38.880 you're a mother at 35, you're not a millionaire, I guess. Okay. Turn back around. All right. You

07:33:43.240 guys understand the rules. We'll try to go through it a bit quicker. Somewhat similar

07:33:47.780 motherhood stay or 1 billion turn around. Yes. Wait, hold on. We need to do some adjustment.

07:33:58.000 Can I have you guys scoot?

07:33:59.880 Sorry, turn back around.

07:34:01.060 We'll do it one more time.

07:34:02.360 I just need to make sure everyone's in frame.

07:34:03.940 Can I have you guys, you guys stare where you are.

07:34:05.980 Can I have you two scoot down like a few inches that way?

07:34:08.700 It is going to be a bit tight.

07:34:10.420 So motherhood stay or one billion turn around.

07:34:19.660 Okay.

07:34:23.780 Turn back around.

07:34:24.560 be number one in your industry stay or find your soulmate

07:34:32.280 turn around

07:34:35.900 turn back around my husband i'm quick all right dream career stay or dream husband turn around

07:34:54.560 okay turn back uh return provide for a man actually i'm gonna skip that one

07:35:07.520 help him build his empire stay or build your own empire turn around

07:35:15.360 okay return five foot six billionaire stay or six foot three millionaire turnaround

07:35:34.080 can i do like halfway

07:35:39.140 you gotta pick one or the other one or the other okay return bald with blue eyes stay or hair with

07:35:54.580 dark eyes turn around i guess you gotta translate it to lesbian translate it to lesbian

07:36:08.200 all right next uh return

07:36:11.900 men over 40 or men under 30

07:36:19.140 sorry yeah i'll repeat it men men over 40 stay or men under 30 turn

07:36:29.020 i don't care okay all right return short king stay

07:36:40.060 or tall

07:36:42.120 red flag turn.

07:36:43.920 Oh.

07:36:45.760 Everyone's red flags.

07:36:51.420 Nobody picks tall red flag?

07:36:53.380 No. Y'all pick the short...

07:36:54.760 Short king?

07:36:57.560 Okay. Here we go.

07:37:01.220 Let's see here.

07:37:06.460 Big dick stay

07:37:08.260 or

07:37:09.800 Rich turn

07:37:11.800 If it's big

07:37:13.120 Don't worry about it

07:37:15.000 Just whatever you want

07:37:15.960 I'm married

07:37:18.800 Big dick stay

07:37:21.660 Or rich turn

07:37:22.720 Average dick

07:37:27.320 Rich

07:37:28.440 I think

07:37:31.360 Women pretend that that stuff doesn't matter

07:37:33.560 But it matters

07:37:34.220 I'm married

07:37:36.200 Return

07:37:37.560 You need a husband dick, not a patient dick.

07:37:43.800 Dumb Jim Bro Stay or Skinny Tech Geek Turn?

07:37:55.240 All right, return.

07:37:58.040 Skinny, you can gain weight.

07:38:00.140 You can't gain your guns.

07:38:02.680 Pretty Boy Stay or Rich Man Turn?

07:38:07.560 Pretty boy or rich man?

07:38:11.100 This is horrible.

07:38:14.640 I don't want either.

07:38:16.640 Alright, return.

07:38:21.120 40 year old man

07:38:22.500 or 21 year old man

07:38:25.140 sorry

07:38:27.000 40 year old man stay

07:38:28.700 or 21 year old man turn?

07:38:32.120 40 year old man

07:38:33.140 really? Even you?

07:38:34.760 Shit.

07:38:35.300 okay all right that's interesting

07:38:39.660 all right fair enough all right toxic rich relationship stay or broke peaceful relationship

07:38:50.780 turn all right return

07:38:58.840 um uh hold on funny but broke stay or wealthy with no sense of humor turn oh no that's a deal

07:39:12.660 breaker for me that's a deal breaker for me i'm married you cannot take yourself too seriously

07:39:17.600 I can't laugh when I'm hungry

07:39:19.800 Next, or sorry, return

07:39:21.640 Old money

07:39:26.100 stay or

07:39:27.660 self-made turn

07:39:29.280 Old money means we get to spend

07:39:35.820 more time together

07:39:36.760 Lives with his mom

07:39:40.300 with 100k saved

07:39:42.160 stay or

07:39:44.080 has his own place but lives

07:39:46.420 paycheck to paycheck

07:39:47.700 return

07:39:58.180 rich without love

07:40:06.260 stay or

07:40:08.320 hold on

07:40:10.980 rich without love stay

07:40:13.780 or poor but deeply

07:40:16.220 in love i know what i'm doing let's say or pour a deeply in love

07:40:20.940 what if he dies of cancer two years okay money can be returned love i don't i don't want to know

07:40:29.460 emotionally available but splits everything 50 50 stay or amazing provider who's emotionally

07:40:41.960 unavailable turn.

07:40:44.540 Wait, say it again.

07:40:48.980 Say it one more time.

07:40:50.380 Sorry, you had your chance.

07:40:51.440 You had your chance. Return.

07:40:53.920 Return.

07:40:56.920 Alright.

07:40:58.040 Exciting but unfaithful

07:41:00.040 stay or

07:41:01.680 loyal but boring turn.

07:41:09.800 Return.

07:41:11.960 hmm this one's interesting uh bad sex but great communication or uh stay or great sex

07:41:23.820 but bad communication turned sheesh bad sex but great communication welcome communication

07:41:30.320 how is that even possible i just my husband

07:41:34.340 so you guys pick most of you pick the bad sex but great communication

07:41:42.980 that's forward great sex but bad communication is turned i'm in the middle

07:41:48.600 good communication you gotta pick you gotta pick one you gotta pick one all right return

07:41:53.360 return

07:41:55.440 toxic

07:41:58.320 but 10 out of 10 love

07:42:00.740 or peaceful

07:42:02.600 but 5 out of 10

07:42:04.780 love turn

07:42:06.180 I don't know

07:42:08.320 just whatever it means to you

07:42:10.080 it's not that deep

07:42:11.240 okay return

07:42:15.480 jealous

07:42:18.660 stay or emotionally

07:42:21.060 unavailable turn

07:42:22.500 Endless options stay, or one soulmate turn.

07:42:48.860 Return.

07:42:49.340 lies constantly stay or cheated once turn but okay so the i guess the breakdown would be

07:43:06.120 cheats once never cheats you on you excuse me never cheats on you again is honest or lies

07:43:13.020 constantly could be cheating but you don't know i don't know it's kind of i guess it's a bit

07:43:22.440 confusing i don't know all right return get back with your ex stay or stay single for 10 years

07:43:35.100 return

07:43:43.660 okay uh we got like seven more so divorced with four kids stay or never married at 45 this is the

07:43:59.480 man? Man divorced with four kids, stay, or man never married at 45?

07:44:08.220 Divorced with four kids.

07:44:10.340 I tried that. It's just me that he's 19 at heart.

07:44:13.260 Return?

07:44:13.820 Yeah.

07:44:16.720 Married man, stay, or divorced man with five kids?

07:44:26.980 He's already married, I guess.

07:44:28.380 He's already married

07:44:32.040 But cheating and what not

07:44:33.800 Return

07:44:34.480 Drug addict

07:44:37.980 Stay or gambler

07:44:39.800 Turn

07:44:40.300 They're both addictions

07:44:47.140 Return

07:44:48.480 Alcoholic stay

07:44:53.880 Or lives with his mom

07:44:56.140 Whoops, didn't mean to press that

07:45:01.760 Okay, return

07:45:05.420 Estranged from his parents

07:45:10.080 Stay or

07:45:11.500 Mama's boy, turn

07:45:13.480 7 out of 10

07:45:21.920 Y'all pick estranged?

07:45:25.380 really you don't take mama's boy over okay return no sex before marriage stay or sex on the first

07:45:36.540 date turn so that would mean if you pick um no sex before like you you got you can't have sex

07:45:45.100 until marriage i think it's kind of self-explanatory but yeah i'm basically repeating what

07:45:50.040 no sex before marriage really

07:45:54.100 if he's bad at sex I'll just use him

07:45:56.360 I think I figured out how to use a man

07:45:58.780 love it

07:45:59.240 flowers every week

07:46:02.260 but average in bed

07:46:04.140 stay or

07:46:05.620 never gets you flowers but

07:46:08.120 amazing in bed

07:46:09.260 give me the fucking flowers

07:46:12.060 really

07:46:13.820 flowers in bed

07:46:15.700 I like flowers

07:46:16.900 you guys pick flowers over

07:46:19.820 You trade amazing sex for flowers

07:46:22.280 I'll put your pants down right in front of me if you bring me some flowers

07:46:24.980 The fuck? Alright

07:46:26.100 Return, final one

07:46:27.960 Sex

07:46:29.600 Once a month or

07:46:32.100 Sex every day

07:46:34.360 Turn

07:46:34.780 Sex once a month

07:46:39.140 Yeah, once a month

07:46:40.020 You're the one, the sole one out

07:46:43.820 Okay, return to your seats

07:46:45.220 That concludes this or that segment

07:46:48.040 You guys did very great.

07:46:49.160 Thank you.

07:46:49.540 Thank you.

07:46:49.920 Well done.

07:46:50.840 Pull your chairs and hold your boobs so they don't slip out.

07:46:55.520 Do what you got to do.

07:46:56.440 Return to the table.

07:46:57.020 No, we're not allowed to touch our boobs, you said.

07:46:58.140 I just think they can't pull out.

07:46:59.760 Well, she was protecting them, you know.

07:47:01.840 All right.

07:47:02.400 We're going to blast through all the notes for y'all.

07:47:06.900 And then, oh, yeah.

07:47:08.260 Sorry.

07:47:08.500 Scoot that back.

07:47:09.020 They haven't been very mean tonight.

07:47:11.040 Oh, this way.

07:47:13.120 Boom.

07:47:13.900 There we go.

07:47:15.040 All good?

07:47:15.700 All right.

07:47:16.880 Yeah, guys, she wants you guys to be mean.

07:47:20.020 She wants to be mean.

07:47:22.400 You got to be mean to her.

07:47:24.100 All right.

07:47:25.520 They were nice today.

07:47:26.960 I spent a whole week getting roasted 24-7.

07:47:31.100 And I thought I was going to come here and get some nice roasts and maybe some creative ones.

07:47:35.900 Yeah, they were nice.

07:47:36.460 What can you do?

07:47:37.660 It's Pacey George.

07:47:38.560 He's not here.

07:47:39.940 He's got, where is he?

07:47:41.000 He's got to come back.

07:47:42.300 What's going on in Canada?

07:47:43.980 There's already a few people up.

07:47:45.560 Can we just wait, wait till people are back?

07:47:48.420 We try not to have multiple people up at the table at the same time.

07:47:53.000 All right.

07:47:54.280 Speaking of which, I need to get up here in a minute.

07:47:57.400 Let me get into everyone's notes.

07:47:59.980 We did most of yours.

07:48:02.000 We did the age stuff.

07:48:05.200 We already talked about that.

07:48:07.360 Let me see if I can.

07:48:11.540 You said you're preparing for your husband.

07:48:13.440 What does that mean?

07:48:15.560 Um, I'm working out. I want to be in shape. Oh, sorry. I'm working out. I want to be I'm working

07:48:22.000 out. I want to be in shape so I can have kids so I can be the best. Um, I've noticed with what I do

07:48:27.680 that, um, one of the biggest things is, um, if you want to have a long marriage and you want to be

07:48:33.080 healthy, you have to start working out now. So that preparing for that, um, also learning to

07:48:38.760 be more financially savvy and not such a spender cool love that for you i'm trying to be more

07:48:46.300 humble um and submissive okay because if he's gonna lead i cannot be as feisty as i can be

07:48:53.180 um and also argumentative open the door so i try to try to be all that preparing that way

07:48:59.220 all right uh cool you now i don't want to linger on this too long just trying to blast through some

07:49:04.940 of these notes you write that my approach uh to women feminists you have a disagreement on that

07:49:11.380 you say it seems irrational and counterproductive most times and it's frustrating to watch because

07:49:17.360 what you're saying is correct but hardly ever understood or taken into consideration i think

07:49:21.880 you talked about that a little bit today like we talked about that a little bit but i mean

07:49:25.360 i think being here and listening to you and saying you don't like to be coddled so i'm not

07:49:30.440 gonna get all emotional but saying your heart behind it i like i kind of i kind of get it

07:49:33.780 I also know that it's frustrating when you're talking to brick walls who don't really listen.

07:49:39.300 I mean, also, I would say that, well, one, we're obviously putting on the show for the viewers.

07:49:44.640 I'm not, if I can convince someone I'm speaking to, great.

07:49:48.660 But I'm not sure if I took a more gentle approach that it would be any more or less effective.

07:49:56.640 I don't think you should take a more gentle approach.

07:49:58.520 I don't want you to be a woman.

07:49:59.520 I don't think you'd be more effective, to be honest.

07:50:01.200 I don't want you to be a woman.

07:50:02.380 No, I think it's just, yeah, no, but I'm thinking against that.

07:50:07.480 Don't worry.

07:50:07.760 I'm not going to become a chick.

07:50:09.260 I'm thinking, don't worry, don't worry, kind of thinking of like how Charlie Kirk was when

07:50:14.500 he handled things like he logical, but at the same time, that kind of grace that kind

07:50:18.500 of gives you room to actually be heard.

07:50:20.760 So, but I mean, everyone's different.

07:50:22.480 Speaking of envy, uh, envy, you write that you're a lesbian.

07:50:26.140 You're in a relationship with a woman who couldn't come out due to religion and family.

07:50:30.280 you were together for 13 years then she left with no word six years later she got in touch with you

07:50:36.660 and told you she was pressured into marriage with a man can you just uh scoot your chair in for a

07:50:42.300 bit for us excuse me um so yeah yeah anything else you want to add or not really not really

07:50:52.120 okay uh you also write lesbians who date trans women are not lesbians absolutely

07:50:57.220 cool think we can leave it there we got chase you mentioned we have differing opinions but

07:51:04.880 we already talked about the disagreements i gave you a bit of time there to think of anything else

07:51:08.480 is there anything else um i mean i think the uh gender norms like being submissive as a wife like

07:51:22.220 I just personally don't live my life that way well you I am not submissive on your questionnaire

07:51:29.540 you say men should pay on first dates men should provide protect men should be chivalrous

07:51:36.820 so when it comes to the duties and expectations on men you might as well be living in the 1940s

07:51:44.000 But when it comes to you, well, 2026 for you, modernity for you.

07:51:51.060 Now, this is this is the big issue I have here is if you were like, you know what, I'll go 50 50 and I don't really care about the chivalry and I don't really have these traditional expectations on men.

07:52:03.240 I would have no issue with your modernity for you.

07:52:06.140 but don't you like in this ties into the well it's wrong for you or you had the disagreement

07:52:11.740 wrong for high body count man to want to date a low body count woman wrong for a modern woman

07:52:17.720 to want to receive or feel entitled to or feel like she deserves traditional treatment which

07:52:24.940 you clearly do how do you reconcile that i don't think it's traditional to want to be courted

07:52:33.020 that's traditional I don't know because I also don't want a husband who's um who is

07:52:40.580 domineering I don't agree with I mean me neither I think that so what do you do how are you holding

07:52:50.000 up your end of the deal I don't think you necessarily have to be traditional to want

07:52:55.560 those to have those dating standards I think that if that's your standard and that's what

07:53:02.020 you're going for then and i continue and i have met some wonderful men they weren't my man but

07:53:12.080 i've met some wonderful men who do uphold those standards so that's how i know it's not ridiculous

07:53:17.360 um and i just think that i we over idealize the 1940s style dating it's like you wait wait but

07:53:26.860 Hold on.

07:53:28.040 You are committing the thing that you object to.

07:53:33.060 I'm not saying that my standards are because I want it to be the 1940s.

07:53:36.960 I'm saying these are my standards.

07:53:37.840 But you're holding men to a 1940s standard.

07:53:40.540 I'm taking, no.

07:53:41.980 Yes.

07:53:43.560 I think that even in 2026, it's standard.

07:53:46.820 Chivalry started when?

07:53:48.800 Chivalry, I think.

07:53:50.640 Chivalry?

07:53:52.380 Had to do with like knights and this sort of thing hundreds of years ago.

07:53:56.860 men should pay on first dates men should provide protect men should be chivalrous this is what you

07:54:01.340 write you want a guy who makes millions of dollars a year provide protect pay for dates

07:54:07.380 chivalry that's traditional treatment that men give yeah

07:54:14.120 i also think that you can't claim to be a traditional man while also expect like

07:54:21.380 and expecting what entering like expecting the woman to act wifely like a wife without giving

07:54:30.480 her marriage well then you're going so you're what clarify that but i think i'm saying that

07:54:36.640 for your standards like i'm not saying for my standards because i'm actually i believe in

07:54:40.920 marriage and i believe in monogamy and all those things why are you christian no why why would you

07:54:46.640 care about marriage from a secular perspective because i think it's one romantic and two i think

07:54:53.580 that i think that if you're going to have kids with somebody then it provides security

07:54:57.400 for the woman not for the man for the woman she's tied you for life i have a kid with you

07:55:03.420 yes she is you divorced i don't have a kid with him yeah but hold on there was no abuse

07:55:08.800 he wasn't mistreating you right no oh there no he was not mistreating me that's what i'm saying

07:55:15.300 you just were vaguely unhappy it's not vaguely unhappy it's was their abuse

07:55:22.180 it you don't need abuse to get a divorce right so you were just vaguely unhappy you fell out of

07:55:28.820 whatever it was glaringly obvious that the marriage wasn't working for either of us and

07:55:34.520 it wasn't good for either of us emotionally to stay in the marriage did he want to keep going

07:55:39.240 yeah uh so that's not a mutual thing it was you pushing that and because you were checked out

07:55:46.820 then you started pulling away then it created conflict in your marriage where perhaps he had

07:55:50.800 apprehension but he wanted to stay in the marriage you left i so let's not make it a mutual concerns

07:55:56.960 for years and i don't want to get too deep into give us a basic rundown i mean about what drinking

07:56:06.560 drinking was he an alcoholic but not abusive or anything drank a lot and so i i was it causing

07:56:14.980 issues yeah i mean he wasn't mean or anything it's just like his health was not good um i don't agree

07:56:24.720 with how he raised his son he lets him stay the son that's not yours yeah but it's my responsibility

07:56:31.020 if i'm choosing to take on a child to help them and you know he's on the internet too much and

07:56:37.480 i don't agree with i would agree with you that sure limited access to internet okay um

07:56:43.520 let's go back to this though the the trad thing you disagree with the traditional gender roles

07:56:51.620 or something i'm a bit confused i mean i don't want to go back to the 1940s because

07:56:54.900 the women were not allowed to open bank accounts until the 1970s that's not entirely true yes it

07:57:01.840 is was there a law or was it just certain banking policies no it was a law there was no law that

07:57:08.280 hold her own there was no law that prevented women from owning property or opening a bank

07:57:14.140 now it is true that some banks perhaps many banks had policies preventing women from opening bank

07:57:21.140 accounts. Women were not legally allowed to hold their own bank accounts. That is false. That is

07:57:26.500 fake news. Look it up. What would that have to do with the argument at hand? Even if it was true,

07:57:32.280 because I don't want to go back to the 1950s just because I have some traditional values doesn't

07:57:36.880 mean I have to encompass the entire value system. But we're talking about dating. We're talking

07:57:41.220 about dating though. Nothing. It would mean a return to traditional gender roles where it's not

07:57:48.000 a reversal of rights that you would allege women didn't have back then it would be women in terms

07:57:55.820 of their gender roles in the confines of a relationship or marriage the women adhere to

07:58:01.400 those gender roles you want freedom for you and you want duty and responsibility for men well i

07:58:12.580 don't believe it's total freedom for me obviously i'm monogamous so that wouldn't give me total

07:58:17.300 freedom but i don't want what i'm talking about i don't want i'm not the type of woman who wants

07:58:22.740 i want a partnership so when i say that you don't yes i do no you don't apart yeah i think that what

07:58:29.620 you're describing is not a partnership that's a dictatorship hold on you want a wallet you want

07:58:35.580 an atm machine man should pay on first dates should he pay on other dates too he should pay

07:58:40.320 for every day and if we move in how the fuck are you partners then a partner doesn't mean

07:58:45.220 financials don't mean that we're not partners in what way would you be a partner then because

07:58:52.880 you don't think you can be a 50 50 financial partner in a relationship

07:58:57.420 it's just not the type of relationship that i want right but so it's not you're not partners

07:59:03.360 you can be partners without so what are you doing what does the man get when he dates you

07:59:09.140 you know guys ask this question all the time and it's

07:59:12.360 the guys in the bracket that i'm looking at are not asking this question

07:59:19.140 there's whether they ask it or not is irrelevant they're still looking for women who bring

07:59:25.960 value to the table in one way or another what's the value you bring i think the value a woman

07:59:31.740 brings is very apparent one we take on a lot if it's very apparent articulate it we are the ones

07:59:40.280 that take care of the household a majority of the time i did 50 50 in my marriage and i did

07:59:44.880 paid for 50 of the bills paid for half the dinner when we went out and i also as you should a hundred

07:59:51.160 percent of the labor in the home i was he the breadwinner no i paid 50 and i also did a hundred

07:59:59.820 percent of the housework almost like as you should no why how is that even as you should how is that

08:00:07.460 even equal. No. How is that any different than everything that you're saying here? How is it

08:00:12.800 any different? What are you talking about? What do you mean? I'm saying if you want traditional

08:00:16.720 roles, then the guy pays a hundred percent all the time. You don't want traditional roles though.

08:00:22.780 Well, I'm cherry picking and I'm telling my, wait, say that again. I am cherry picking and

08:00:28.200 saying what I want in my relationship. You cherry pick. So it's a buffet. It's a buffet. Yes, it is.

08:00:34.020 You pick the burdens on the man, you reject the burdens on you.

08:00:37.340 I don't mind doing a hundred percent of the housework and I'll have a cleaner too.

08:00:40.480 So, and doing all of the labor of coordinating and managing the household.

08:00:47.100 If a guy makes five, five M a year, you probably have a maid.

08:00:50.800 Exactly.

08:00:51.400 But there's also.

08:00:52.240 So you wouldn't be doing housework.

08:00:53.080 What would you be doing?

08:00:53.960 There's the labor of coordinating your, your, um, help.

08:01:04.680 Hey, Consuela, come over at 2 p.m. on Saturday to clean the house.

08:01:10.040 Ten seconds.

08:01:11.160 Done.

08:01:11.640 It's not just ten seconds.

08:01:12.920 It's, oh, well, can you do that and making sure everything's done right?

08:01:15.740 And just because somebody comes once and cleans the house doesn't mean that you're not also doing housework.

08:01:29.520 Okay.

08:01:30.860 What do you bring to the table?

08:01:32.820 what do you bring to the table

08:01:34.100 I don't really feel like

08:01:37.740 I have to answer that question because the guy

08:01:39.700 that I end up marrying is going to see my

08:01:41.620 value like it's

08:01:43.380 not you know

08:01:44.620 so even if the guy you end up marrying

08:01:47.580 never asks this

08:01:48.780 he wouldn't have to ask this because he could just see it

08:01:51.660 how would the guy just see it

08:01:53.460 I mean

08:01:55.960 in how we interact together

08:02:01.300 and you know it's more you wanted to have kids i would like to have a kid and then you said you

08:02:07.600 wanted nannies yeah why just curious because i'll be right back you guys talk to her for a little

08:02:13.240 bit because i've seen it where i used to have a housekeeping company and the first family that i

08:02:21.080 worked for they had um a nanny come in once a week and it gave the wife time to she the wife

08:02:29.000 was a stay-at-home and she would take care of the bookkeeping for the family and she was kind of

08:02:35.640 like the background person for everything and so um when she had the nanny come it just would help

08:02:43.480 her to be able to do her hobbies not lose herself and have to just be a mom 24 7 and then when the

08:02:49.160 dad came home they also got time to date too so it's just a preference you know did you like you

08:02:54.980 want a nanny every day you mean yeah in the house yeah in my I would I want the nanny to be in my

08:03:00.900 house and I would like to just like I don't want somebody else to raise the kid but I would like

08:03:05.900 to oversee and not have to have the responsibility 100% of the time I want time to myself to with

08:03:15.760 children yeah so you would have a nanny there and I'm coming at you as a person that has three kids

08:03:23.460 that raised three kids without nannies and I'm not like patting myself on the back um there's

08:03:28.720 something really um wholesome and special about raising your own children without having a nanny

08:03:35.760 doesn't mean you're not raising your kids well that's why I asked you because you said that you

08:03:39.300 wanted to be there to oversee her like oversee her it's like delegate wouldn't it be nice if

08:03:45.120 you had another person in the house to just help with the kids I mean I have my husband there my

08:03:49.360 husband but if they're working and you're staying at home it's hard to do just by yourself i mean

08:03:54.740 like a mother's helper yeah exactly yeah i mean and a nanny but also i can go and like do my

08:04:00.540 workout and a maid keep up yeah and a maid you said something that's true you said it's hard

08:04:05.940 i think the difference is a difference is whether you are okay with hard or if you aren't okay with

08:04:10.920 hard most people who i mean like we talk about we're talking about 1940s wives they they did

08:04:16.400 hard and they didn't complain about it they did it anyway because they they reward was like have

08:04:22.820 you seen my kids you know or you know my uh or their father was like look at what my look what

08:04:28.180 my wife did look how she raised my kids like they there was a difference between the respect that

08:04:33.920 you got as a mother in comparison to what it is today but hard doesn't mean it's impossible and

08:04:38.840 hard doesn't mean it's not like invaluable like it's invaluable to be a mother there's no other

08:04:43.800 role on the planet i'm not saying it's not that you could ever play but i'm just saying i want

08:04:47.220 help if you don't want to have help and you want to raise your kids by yourself then i

08:04:50.780 all the power to you but this is my standard and this is what i want i get you i also want help

08:04:56.160 i mean if i could and if i could afford it would be nice but i would not want someone every day

08:05:00.740 because i feel like they would be raising my kids and like their mindsets right like their

08:05:04.660 ways of living would automatically be taught to them and i would worry like okay like what are my

08:05:10.580 kids learning from this person so i like a helper sounds cool but like them being there every day in

08:05:15.480 my home teaching my kids hanging out with them i feel like they're stealing my job as a mom yeah

08:05:20.380 i have a question i have a question sure that they're teaching the right things to your kids

08:05:24.120 you know like make sure they're not just putting them on a screen and and playing like games that

08:05:31.000 are um educational you know so like how many hours a day would you want a nanny i mean i don't know

08:05:37.360 i don't know probably i don't know five or six to eight hours a day yeah that's like school

08:05:45.860 i have a question for the i don't think that it means that you shouldn't have kids just because

08:05:50.980 you want a nanny it doesn't mean you're not raising you're not raising they're spending

08:05:54.080 more time with them than you're not going to be i'm telling you you have a nanny from eight to

08:05:57.760 five every day you're gonna spend time with your kids for what dinner and bed i have a question

08:06:01.920 for the mom spending time with your kids it's not time you're not it's not time i'm telling you it's

08:06:06.920 I think this might be a different question if my parents...

08:06:09.860 You know it's a bad sign when the other women start to turn against you.

08:06:14.140 I have not turned against.

08:06:14.860 This is somebody who hasn't ever...

08:06:16.580 Have you seen somebody with a nanny?

08:06:18.100 Yes.

08:06:18.460 Have you experienced this?

08:06:19.800 Yes.

08:06:20.280 Three nannies for one kid.

08:06:21.680 Are you nanny material, though?

08:06:23.520 What are you talking about?

08:06:24.760 Brian is talking.

08:06:25.360 Are you nanny material?

08:06:26.440 I've seen a family with a nanny.

08:06:28.320 Oh, nannies exist.

08:06:29.880 That's true.

08:06:30.800 And they are very involved with...

08:06:32.340 Are you nanny material?

08:06:34.620 Would I be a nanny?

08:06:35.800 No.

08:06:35.960 No, what I'm saying is, would you be able to end up with a guy who makes enough money that he could afford a nanny to do that much work?

08:06:42.420 If I can pay for a nanny, then I deserve a nanny.

08:06:44.600 How much a year do you think a nanny is?

08:06:46.400 They're expensive.

08:06:47.480 I don't need to pay for a nanny.

08:06:47.600 I don't have a kid.

08:06:48.120 $150,000 a year.

08:06:49.060 I don't know why.

08:06:49.980 What?

08:06:50.920 Yeah.

08:06:51.260 I have a question for all the women here.

08:06:52.940 I have a question for all the women.

08:06:54.900 We have Chase here.

08:06:56.460 She's 29.

08:06:58.500 She, well, hold on.

08:07:00.040 Let me list out the things, then I'll ask the question.

08:07:02.860 Chase is, and then Tiffany, can you pull up the calculator?

08:07:05.660 because we'll do the calculator. Chase is 29. She wants a guy who makes minimum $5 million a year.

08:07:12.360 That's the minimum for marriage. She wants a guy who's at least six foot one, ideally six foot four.

08:07:19.600 I'm sure there's other requirements. She wants a guy to pay for first dates. She wants a guy to

08:07:23.840 provide and protect. She wants a guy to be chivalrous. What's the other stuff? She's going

08:07:31.080 to keep her last name in marriage and she wants her kids to have her last name in marriage

08:07:37.740 the question i have for all of you i know you don't know chase all that well well you do

08:07:43.400 do you think that she will get the guy who makes five million dollars a year

08:07:50.520 who's six foot one will she get a six foot one multi-millionaire what do you think if he's over

08:07:58.600 the age if he's over the age of 65 what was your age did she did you give an age range of men you

08:08:04.140 would be open to uh not I'm what's the age range you're 29 ideally not older than 35 but I think

08:08:12.780 I'd go up to 40 maybe depending on the guy so okay 30 to 40 is that fair age range yeah

08:08:21.820 preferably not older than 35 but if they're really a great amazing guy then maybe you gotta

08:08:27.340 make up for it right okay so the age range is 30 to 40 six foot one multi-millionaire making

08:08:34.660 five uh five million dollars a year going around the table just give me a quick blunt answer do

08:08:42.200 you think she will get this man no no no i don't want to be unrealist

08:08:50.980 maybe close

08:08:53.920 come on

08:08:55.880 I know you're trying to be nice

08:08:57.160 you can hang out in certain areas

08:09:00.040 and meet men of certain

08:09:01.340 status and whatnot

08:09:03.100 I don't know

08:09:05.320 so it's possible

08:09:08.120 but it's probable

08:09:09.100 probably not exactly

08:09:11.500 so then

08:09:12.780 if it's not probable

08:09:14.440 like it's possible

08:09:17.660 hold on but it's possible all of you

08:09:19.680 could win the lottery

08:09:20.800 but i would say you're not gonna win the lottery like it's very but you know there's been many

08:09:26.040 women that would set themselves up make sure they're in the right environments you know the

08:09:29.380 right areas where certain men of certain status hang out i mean there is it doesn't mean they

08:09:33.220 pick you though even if you're in the environment you're right also like where she's pretty but

08:09:39.100 she's a gorgeous girl that is a bonus that does help and we say that but the reality is if she's

08:09:45.440 in the environment how many other gorgeous women are in the environment like we have to remember

08:09:50.200 that not she's got she doesn't she's absolutely got competition and chances are there business

08:09:55.840 women who are there also who have who like make like bajillions amount of money and also other

08:10:01.440 submissive okay i have to say though i feel like everyone's like i want to i want to get a millionaire

08:10:05.060 because like i'm going to help him with this business why like every rich person that i've

08:10:09.000 seen though like mega rich their wives are not that they don't come across as very intelligent

08:10:14.380 because they don't but i'm not trying to be rude i'm not i'm just saying they don't give like

08:10:19.340 i am like boss woman vibes very rarely from what i've seen let's continue on with the rest of the

08:10:25.260 question though um do you think she'll get that guy you know as long as i've known her pretty

08:10:31.420 much anything she puts her mind to she's accomplished it so that's good it's cool who

08:10:35.800 knows maybe wow that was an empty platitude there do you think she'll get that guy uh i hope you do

08:10:45.760 sorry sorry i thought you were asking me i hope you get it but i don't wait you hope she gets

08:10:53.300 yeah why not if who come on why not do you hope i get a 10 out of 10 victoria super love

08:10:58.400 When I say I hope you get it

08:11:02.920 It doesn't mean you will

08:11:03.940 I understand that

08:11:05.760 What's the guy's name?

08:11:06.960 I hope she gets a man

08:11:10.820 Who is of commensurate

08:11:12.880 Standing as her

08:11:14.200 That's a fair proposition

08:11:15.780 Why can't you hope for the best?

08:11:17.800 I hope you get what you want

08:11:19.800 I said pessimistic

08:11:23.040 What do you think?

08:11:24.680 Will she get the guy?

08:11:25.600 No.

08:11:26.800 Ooh.

08:11:27.720 Ooh, it's...

08:11:28.540 No, I don't think so.

08:11:29.800 All right, now it's your turn.

08:11:31.760 She, so we got a 41-year-old who lies about her age.

08:11:35.600 Aw.

08:11:36.420 She wants a guy...

08:11:38.680 I don't always lie about my age.

08:11:41.000 Okay.

08:11:41.480 It was just for this podcast.

08:11:42.640 I get it, I get it.

08:11:43.580 I'm giving you a hard time.

08:11:45.960 She wants a guy who's 5'11", who makes $1 million a year, starting with you.

08:11:54.040 Do you think she'll get it?

08:11:55.420 yes okay yes actually yes i don't know what's the age range i think if i recall you said

08:12:05.920 was it 40 to 45 or i think four to five years older than me

08:12:11.540 okay so mid 40 like okay yeah it depends when i get married all right do you think she'll get it

08:12:17.960 what was it what was the height you're looking five eleven i think i do think i want to say no

08:12:23.640 My God, you guys don't know me.

08:12:25.500 How strange helps.

08:12:27.120 Envy, what do you think?

08:12:28.140 No, I'd say no.

08:12:29.300 I hope so, but no, I don't.

08:12:31.360 Okay, what about...

08:12:32.260 That's not that much money in this day and age.

08:12:35.940 No, yeah.

08:12:37.120 Say it a bit louder.

08:12:38.240 No.

08:12:38.880 Yeah.

08:12:39.820 You're hoping a lot of men make a million dollars.

08:12:41.840 I mean, the biggest thing is like,

08:12:43.860 is my heart going to be ended in the way they're sitting in the way?

08:12:46.200 You ready?

08:12:46.640 For both of you, I'm going to do a sound.

08:12:48.260 nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nope no god i definitely had mass majority

08:12:56.460 please no no no no and i just i just want to preface something i'm not i'm not trying to say

08:13:06.140 this out of like you know um any type of you know anger or like i want everybody to meet i'm not

08:13:13.040 angry I'm just saying like my my husband is amazing you know and he's like everything and

08:13:21.120 again I'm not like saying anything but you're you're missing out on a huge chunk of men that

08:13:26.700 you actually will like really fall in love with them and I know it sounds stupid and corny and

08:13:31.500 whatever but like you're you're limiting yourself to like this tiny tiny minute small and I've been

08:13:38.320 married already once i know this is my second marriage but i just want you to understand we're

08:13:43.240 only talking about the surface level superficial stuff that he's presenting there's so much more

08:13:49.520 that goes into what i'm looking for in a person but that's your primary it's not my primary

08:13:53.980 question that i answered that we are making a huge topic you you saying that there's i never said the

08:14:00.220 millionaire is my priority no but you saying that i would have already done it hold on but you saying

08:14:04.280 that there's other things that are important actually proves my point further because then

08:14:08.920 it's just well okay he's got to make a million and he's got to be this tall and he's got to have

08:14:12.960 this trait and he's got to treat me like this and he's got to do xyz and he's got to be like

08:14:16.760 all these other things make that man less like you asked questions on a paper that i answered

08:14:23.560 and they become the hot topic of this entire six hour podcast there is so much more that we haven't

08:14:31.600 even fucking touched on so no that's not my driving force of 511 millionaire no if it's your

08:14:39.020 minimum you would not consider men who make 100k or 200k that's not good enough for you i would if

08:14:46.600 my heart was involved in it yes do you know what minimum you asked a question on the paper and i

08:14:51.740 took it like what would be your ideal want bro do you know how to read though because um it doesn't

08:14:58.380 say your questions are kind of subjective words are wait wait words are objective like what hello

08:15:05.600 um if i knew that that was going to be the one question that's being repeated over and over

08:15:12.440 thinking that this is what quantifies my dream man i probably would have stated it a little

08:15:18.020 differently anyways um okay on to the next thing on to the next thing okay we got some notes here

08:15:24.600 we got um i was happy oh the trad thing well we already went back and forth on that um are you

08:15:31.900 romantic i am okay what do you do that's romantic write letters and i love making um

08:15:41.880 music is really important to me so i like making uh playlists

08:15:47.240 i'm very affectionate and i'm i try to be very thoughtful

08:15:55.300 okay uh i'm gonna read some of your notes here we're gonna get through everyone's notes

08:16:00.920 pretty quick you moved in and eventually got married at 20 to a guy 15 years older than you

08:16:06.420 after a month of knowing him after you got divorced you dated a crazy guy who you had

08:16:13.580 to put a restraining order on because he wouldn't let you break up with him no oh that's always

08:16:20.060 scary you know when they don't take no for an answer and they refuse to let you break up with

08:16:26.080 them that's rough i'm laughing about it right now because i've had that you know but it's it's not

08:16:30.360 funny it is really scary oh yeah i've had girls like calling my phone 50 times texting from

08:16:36.720 different numbers email and like everything so you can get that victoria's secret model there you go

08:16:41.340 because i had like a no i'm just saying no no i'm just saying higher your expectations

08:16:47.700 you'd be shocked listen if bella hadid in the weekend come on the weekend yeah but you also

08:16:55.300 have i'm not the weekend no but status i think he's a musician so look in terms of like the

08:17:03.740 i i put athletes in terms of uh like entertainment or entertainers yeah it's athletes musicians

08:17:10.460 actors this is like acting podcasting is way down here it might be with podcasting is down here

08:17:19.020 yeah radio way down here you have good pianist fingers you could always good pianist fingers

08:17:24.120 i misheard you could always take up an instrument so you could be like

08:17:27.640 who was the one talking about something about hands giving them an ick was that was that you

08:17:39.580 no he had these really long fingers they were just crazy okay all right good to know um you

08:17:47.200 dated a bulgarian guy who wanted you to move in with him after two dates and when you guys broke

08:17:51.520 up you ignored his calls ended up zelling you until you unblocked him wait so we love it yeah

08:18:00.020 i i forgot i told you about this one uh when you say he was zelling you like how much and what was

08:18:07.560 he was saying um I think that it ended up being 8,500 he zelled me until I unblocked him like in

08:18:14.060 one transaction over like a day or so so he'd send you like 10 10 100 100 1000 he would send me like

08:18:23.020 it was like 2,500 at a time or 3,500 at a time whatever the limit is yeah I wish I dumped a

08:18:32.180 girl and she sent me money right who it honestly it happens more often than you think it's kind of

08:18:38.440 a red flag he was he ended up being very controlling you unblocked him wait did you

08:18:44.500 charge him an unblock fee i did not and he did that himself i didn't ask for anything okay you

08:18:49.440 didn't ask when he asked me to move in with him um as i said i was doing real estate and that he

08:18:55.480 wanted me to move to a different island i wouldn't be able to work there so when i when he asked me

08:19:01.780 to move in with him after two dates. I said, then I want you to pay for my rent. So that way I don't

08:19:06.820 lose my apartment. So I did ask him that. Uh, yeah, I guess that's fine. But I didn't ask him

08:19:13.700 to pay me money to unblock me. I just didn't want to talk to him anymore. And then he just kept

08:19:20.300 sending me money. Gotcha. Um, okay. Disagreements, uh, anything you disagree with on the show. So

08:19:26.620 you do have some notes here that are a bit novel that are different, uh, disagreement. Women are

08:19:31.580 subservient to men that's what you wrote i disagree that women are subservient to men yes

08:19:39.960 i do disagree with that i don't know if i make the like in a dating context um i mean

08:19:46.220 yeah it kind of seems like i don't you elaborate on that is that your thoughts well i don't use

08:19:53.440 the word subservient i would say i i use the word submissive though so i'd want a woman to be

08:19:59.680 submissive. Subservient is a bit different. I mean, it's somewhat related, but it's a bit

08:20:05.960 different. Um, so I'd like a woman to be submissive in a relationship. Is that wrong?

08:20:13.340 I mean, who am I to tell you what to do in your relationship? Okay. But you wouldn't do it in

08:20:17.920 your relationship. I mean, I am just not submissive. I mean, I can be in certain contexts.

08:20:22.820 dudes you seem like you know that's a that's super pegging I like to be the girl you like

08:20:31.600 to be the woman I'm the girl I am the woman but do you want men to lead I mean do you want men

08:20:37.620 to lead I think that it it flips in certain contexts you know it's a partnership lead when

08:20:45.480 you're in the mood to be led and you get permanent veto over anything if I'm better at some things

08:20:52.580 and, or he doesn't care about some things, then I take the lead on those. If he's better at certain

08:20:59.760 things, then it's, you know, and I really have no opinion on it, then take the lead and tell me what

08:21:05.900 you want to do. But I don't think it should just be a dictatorship is all. Okay. Um, you said you're

08:21:14.580 traditional but your value system is different yeah like

08:21:20.120 I guess I am contradicting myself a little bit is it clocking but

08:21:28.320 I saw that I saw that I could admit that but I do like I'm like I said I believe in marriage

08:21:40.460 i might not be religious but i believe in marriage i believe in monogamy um so how are you traditional

08:21:47.400 i mean i don't mind taking on households i mean yeah the household work just because you have a

08:21:58.260 maid and a nanny doesn't mean that you're not doing household work well assume you dated a guy

08:22:01.340 well assume you dated a guy who didn't make enough money to pay for that maybe you wouldn't date him

08:22:07.420 to begin with i don't know if it would happen so it's like trad but only expectations on men

08:22:13.340 by the way your instagram um do you think part of oh probably not do you think part of being

08:22:18.940 trad is dressing modestly for the woman if you want to say trad then you should probably not

08:22:26.260 have tattoos either which i have many i'm not making that argument though i'm just talking

08:22:31.900 about like modesty i think i don't know i mean like i said i'm not like i'm traditional but i

08:22:43.780 wouldn't want to be a trad wife okay um at the bottom of your insta oh we already talked about

08:22:53.700 the sarah jessica parker sex in the city stuff red flag yeah i see do you like the pictures of

08:23:00.280 leopards i didn't commit to memory every single uh thing here hold on let me see we got uh where's

08:23:07.740 christy let me see uh hold on wait where i'm trying to look at your notes here hold on um

08:23:19.860 we got eden we got roxanne crystal she's

08:23:25.060 uh wait where

08:23:28.680 envy

08:23:31.320 do you recall the notes that you sent us because i for me oh i just have trans you write trans

08:23:42.380 women are men sex work is not work uh i don't know if any women on the panel are going to bite

08:23:48.640 on the trans stuff sex work is not work your sex worker is sex work work it's working for me

08:23:55.480 you want to engage with her a bit on the sex work is not work yeah okay all right have fun

08:24:00.620 i mean i i will say i don't feel like it you know i used to work in restaurants and i used to work

08:24:04.680 a job like that and that was obviously a lot harder work than what i'm doing now now i do

08:24:10.620 social media i market myself on social media and i funnel that to only fans and i make money through

08:24:17.400 only fans what are you doing specifically on only fans um just topless content videos photos yeah

08:24:24.040 videos photos yeah but it's just all just topless no other people just myself so i mean i my position

08:24:31.720 would be that um i think it's harmful for women obviously i think uh it's very um it exploits

08:24:38.140 women um and i think a lot of young girls look up to women that do content like that and think it's

08:24:46.200 a quick buck for them. I don't shame the worker. It's more the work for me. I know a lot of women

08:24:55.700 that have got into it, homelessness, drug use, sexual abuse, alcoholism, sexually transmitted

08:25:04.120 diseases. If you're doing photos, I still don't agree with it, obviously, but I don't think that

08:25:09.620 it would be beneficial in general for women and girls. A lot of girls get into it when they're

08:25:15.260 underage too so yeah i definitely don't feel like it's for me the reason i started doing it was

08:25:20.480 because somebody um i was already doing social media and somebody i had dated sent my nudes

08:25:26.300 into a reddit fan page about me and so uh even though i got them taken down people were still

08:25:32.060 circulating them so about six months later i decided to come back to social media and start

08:25:39.140 my own only fans and basically like make my own money off of it with my own boundaries um but I

08:25:45.640 by no means like want other girls to see what I'm doing and think like that it was easy because if

08:25:53.120 I hadn't had a following I wouldn't have even no one would have even cared enough about me for it

08:25:58.600 to have even been beneficial but I went from working in restaurants to making six figures a

08:26:04.380 month um and which is not the standard that most people are going to be able to do but

08:26:08.640 it was through hard work and grinding on social media and being able to advertise myself the way

08:26:15.780 that i was that it became profitable for me but i think that that's like a very minuscule amount

08:26:21.760 of people that that is gonna benefit well that i think that's the other problem too especially

08:26:25.880 with only fans i think it was like only uh like a half of a percent make more than it was like

08:26:31.820 $300 a month. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. And a lot of the girls, um, they, they do it for a

08:26:37.660 long time and they try to pick up and a lot of them, it doesn't work for them. Yeah. I just feel

08:26:43.060 like we have so many resources now for women and girls like with, with school and like free

08:26:48.000 education and like housing and community support. I just feel like it's just not a good, um, it's

08:26:54.340 not a good thing to look up to, you know, for young girls. I don't, I don't think you disagree

08:26:58.860 with that. I mean, I'm glad it works for you. I just like, like I said, I feel like with social

08:27:04.540 media, especially, and with OnlyFans, I just feel like it's just not, you know, it's just not good

08:27:11.020 for, you know, I really wish that, I wish that parents, like I know me when I'm a parent, I'm

08:27:16.760 not going to give my kids access to social media and things. I think social media in general is

08:27:23.100 damaging but then when there's also so i think that disproportionately children are fed out

08:27:29.760 inappropriate content and i think it's done on purpose so that it creates this kind of algorithm

08:27:35.740 of children losing their adolescence way too early so when and if i become a parent um i wouldn't

08:27:43.420 i would try and safeguard my without letting them not have access to the internet and things that

08:27:49.420 they need to be productive try and safeguard that way more it's harder than it it you think to to

08:27:55.880 try to safeguard children with like tiktok and you know like i have my kids my daughter's in college

08:28:00.580 now and i had their phones blocked and they're still like always a way to get into you know

08:28:05.120 finding things especially different ways either with porn reddit or with regular video games that

08:28:11.120 kids are getting access to chat rooms and talking to adult men that are i've been through so much

08:28:17.040 growing up on the internet yeah i got it i do have to move it on um all right we have uh let's

08:28:23.880 see we did all your notes did all your notes uh did everything from chase got megan the 33 year

08:28:35.940 old we got megan you ready megan i'm ready all right we got your notes uh you got dropped off

08:28:46.280 on a street corner because you didn't want

08:28:48.300 to fuck him. Yes.

08:28:49.840 Was it a sketchy corner?

08:28:53.100 I mean...

08:28:53.940 It was a lovely corner.

08:28:55.400 It was in lovely Los Angeles.

08:28:57.060 It was a beautiful corner.

08:28:59.220 I don't remember. It was a while ago.

08:29:01.860 It was definitely...

08:29:03.060 That's all I have for you.

08:29:06.740 We got Roxanne.

08:29:09.580 Roxanne, you're a Christian with strong

08:29:11.140 biblical values and beliefs

08:29:12.620 as well as a wife and a mother

08:29:14.780 Before you invited Jesus to be Lord of your life

08:29:18.000 You were in the adult entertainment industry

08:29:20.120 Struggled with multiple forms of addiction

08:29:22.460 And you were on a very dark path

08:29:23.940 What were the multiple forms of addiction?

08:29:26.520 Well I had different seasons

08:29:27.420 There were seasons of drugs, seasons of alcoholism

08:29:29.780 Seasons of porn addiction

08:29:31.240 Seasons of smoking

08:29:32.360 I feel like when you struggle with addiction

08:29:34.660 It can look like many different things

08:29:36.020 It kind of just rolls into another thing

08:29:37.880 What drugs were you doing?

08:29:40.800 A little cocaine

08:29:43.280 I did lots of stuff, lots of, lots of, you know, when I was young, yes, like, I'm not

08:29:51.860 judging, I'm just asking, no, I did, I did, I'm just asking, yeah, yeah, everything, everything,

08:29:56.720 not fed, that wasn't a thing, it might have been in something that I've done, okay, you

08:30:03.180 cried out to God and he saved you, it's been years now and you still, you're still on fire

08:30:07.060 for him, that's right, you're forever grateful for the salvation he gave you, did you have

08:30:11.460 a porn star name can you share that or no my name was alissa oh just alissa or was their last name

08:30:17.300 nope just alissa just alissa okay you're married now you're married once before we talked about

08:30:22.200 that your current marriage is amazing safe and healing your first marriage was a marriage from

08:30:26.280 hell i think we dived into some of that um right or we didn't know okay i'll give you a prompt and

08:30:33.680 if you want to fill in pieces on this so when you first started going to church in your early 20s

08:30:38.440 You were still working in the industry and living a wild lifestyle.

08:30:41.220 I was.

08:30:41.620 You were searching for answers because you were struggling with severe anxiety and darkness.

08:30:45.380 You did end up encountering God, and he completely changed your life.

08:30:48.900 You started attending church.

08:30:50.980 You met a pastor's son.

08:30:53.520 That's right.

08:30:54.080 And you guys became instant friends.

08:30:56.540 He was by your side during that transition while trying to better yourself.

08:31:01.060 You ended up getting pregnant.

08:31:02.820 Yeah.

08:31:03.540 Wait, quick question.

08:31:05.440 Oh, her.

08:31:06.540 Oh, from the pastor's son.

08:31:08.440 uh and um how soon after meeting did you get pregnant oh no it was a while after you guys

08:31:15.920 been dating for a while we weren't well we were friends for like a year or so before we started

08:31:20.760 dating like it was a spontaneous hookup no no no we did we were dating at that point but it was

08:31:25.380 like fresh in the relationship we had already been friends for quite a while okay uh so you got

08:31:29.920 pregnant and you felt immense pressure to marry him you end up marrying him uh without dating for

08:31:34.820 very long. You were with him for over 12 years. He ended up being the most abusive person you've

08:31:38.500 ever met. Physically abusive, mentally abusive, emotionally, sexually abusive, spiritually

08:31:43.460 abusive, manipulate you, control you by twisting scripture. He'd treat you like a dog and say

08:31:48.840 things like, be, get on your knees and clean the floor. Absolutely. He did. And then were you a

08:31:56.740 witness to any of this stuff? Okay. And once you guys were married, that's when you became most

08:32:02.540 abusive uh cruelest person you've ever met yes definitely uh words can't express how awful he was

08:32:07.480 um he was pushing you around hitting you he ripped you out of the shower choked you so badly

08:32:13.380 you thought you were going to uh pretty much daily he would lift his fist to your face whoa

08:32:20.540 and tell you how badly he wanted to hurt you or knock you out damn all the time that's fucked up

08:32:26.060 uh he would look at you and say things like okay we the get on clean your clean the floor

08:32:32.160 uh he would tell you you're a piece of shit worthless and worth less than shit that's right

08:32:37.100 all the time uh he was very dishonest not faithful and just awful so he was cheating too yeah oh yeah

08:32:42.580 oh damn massage parlors i found this out recently i'm just saying because i don't want i just found

08:32:48.340 this out recently like my mom you like ran into an asian lady no i i like like the family lore

08:32:53.360 has been coming up and it's not that i don't forgive him it's that i don't think it's right

08:32:57.460 that like he's done all this stuff and my mom has been a good mom not to bring the kids into it and

08:33:01.400 then i'm older now i've heard stories and i'm like wait he wasn't faithful just like he wasn't just

08:33:06.760 cheating recently on his on his recent fiance he was also cheating on you like that just adds to

08:33:12.240 the lord so i'm like it all adds up um yeah uh not faithful there's much more you could share

08:33:21.900 horrible marriage you're grateful to the lord for giving you the strength to get out of it after

08:33:26.320 years of counseling and healing you're now married to the man of your dreams and it sounds like that's

08:33:30.280 great relationship you have congratulations um we love and you're an advocate for purity now

08:33:35.880 uh you used to be in the adult entertainment industry um and you're living a much different

08:33:41.380 lifestyle and your daughter is uh she's observing the abstinence and she's absolutely yeah been

08:33:50.040 abstinent for like six years or something like six or seven oh six sorry i want to do it at least

08:33:56.360 Oh, fuck, I need another one.

08:33:59.020 Wait, Tiffany, I have another one.

08:34:00.540 Wait, Tiffany, can you... Actually, wait.

08:34:03.020 Wait, your finger broom?

08:34:04.080 No, I have two of these, and I was going to...

08:34:06.520 Eh, who cares?

08:34:08.000 Okay, we got Eden.

08:34:09.800 Eden, you were engaged

08:34:12.020 to a man who you'd known

08:34:13.780 seven months, moved across the country.

08:34:15.300 I think we talked about that. He was abusive.

08:34:19.340 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

08:34:20.340 We dived into that. You dated

08:34:21.660 a P-word who assaulted

08:34:23.760 you and groomed you when you were two.

08:34:26.360 yeah when you say he's a p word was he older than you yes so i was like in high school and he was

08:34:31.660 like in his 20s kind of thing how old were you how old was he like i just turned 17 and he was

08:34:35.900 like 21 or something 21 22 it's still wrong it's still weird it's still weird and he told me he

08:34:44.140 would date me if i was younger so i would not i wouldn't do that but like i don't think that

08:34:50.240 constitutes pet like you the p word i i think it would 100 well i think you could go to jail for

08:34:58.180 it you could go to jail you could get put on a registry for it it's so it's um he's engaging

08:35:05.160 with like a minor but when i think we have to differentiate between like men who are attracted

08:35:11.360 to prepubescent people and like a 20 year old and a 17 year old that's different than a guy like a

08:35:21.800 21 year old who's attracted to like 11 year old like that's okay but you also like if you're 21

08:35:28.960 you can provide alcohol to the minor you know so there's like a different power imbalance that

08:35:34.000 you're playing with there was he providing alcohol to you no i think like maybe vapes i don't know

08:35:39.400 You said he assaulted you?

08:35:41.100 What do you mean?

08:35:42.440 Like SA?

08:35:43.340 Yeah.

08:35:44.160 I don't know if I want to get into that.

08:35:45.840 But it was like a red flag.

08:35:46.980 Do you mean statutory?

08:35:49.260 I mean non-consensual.

08:35:49.700 You're talking statutory or just non-consensual?

08:35:51.400 Just non-consensual.

08:35:52.580 He groomed you too.

08:35:54.540 I would say, yeah, he kind of groomed me.

08:35:55.560 You met him when you were 17?

08:35:56.860 Yeah.

08:35:57.300 I wasn't like really sure, but he just.

08:35:58.760 How close to like 18 were you?

08:36:00.540 Just curious.

08:36:01.960 I was probably like 17 and a quarter.

08:36:04.280 Yeah, she was pretty fresh.

08:36:05.140 I was pretty, I was like, and also I was like, I just was curious.

08:36:07.640 Like, would you like date me if I was younger?

08:36:08.940 and he's like yeah i'm like that i felt weird even at that point i was like hmm interesting

08:36:14.220 when you say he groomed you can you like what specifically did you do like what is grooming i

08:36:19.500 guess for example like it was kind of coercive too like i went on one date i don't know if i

08:36:24.380 like knew the full you know like sometimes people will hide things from you right he was maybe older

08:36:28.560 than i thought i don't know but his brother went to my high school so i thought okay maybe it's

08:36:32.580 safe you know whatever so anyway he comes over for the first date because it was during covid

08:36:36.800 so like we weren't like really going outside so anyway so he came over and it's like within five

08:36:41.560 minutes just super touchy-feely which I wasn't really expecting I was just like uh you know

08:36:48.160 what I mean it's kind of like I don't know what to do but then also like five minutes later he

08:36:52.060 was like okay like you're either gonna say yes like we're gonna date or I'm leaving and so I was

08:36:56.240 like uh I don't know I was like frozen I was like sure I was like I don't know what to do and so

08:37:00.980 then he just kind of like in my life and I like wasn't obviously it was my choice but I should

08:37:05.020 have like said bye you know but it was like uh you said you dated a guy in your teens who had

08:37:10.760 bipolar and went to a psych ward and it ended in a crashed car yes since you wouldn't take him back

08:37:16.580 you really pick great guys no that was when i was younger that was when i wasn't like following the

08:37:22.700 lord like my my discernment of men was like horrid you know what i'm saying so basically i dated this

08:37:28.280 guy in my christian high school i switched school so i'd have better influences right 16 okay okay

08:37:34.900 this is before the other one and he seemed fine there's some signs he was kind of a little out

08:37:39.760 there you know okay whatever yeah but then when i told him one night i don't want to talk on the

08:37:44.480 phone because he's like can i move in with you and i'm 17 i'm like mom i don't want to move in

08:37:48.900 so i know i'll talk to you later he's like okay call me call me call me i'm like no no no i don't

08:37:53.120 want to talk right now he calls my mom at 3 a.m my mom's like he wants to talk to you i'm like

08:37:57.200 no thank you then he tells my mom i'm gonna myself and hangs up so then i'm like uh and

08:38:03.660 then his parents are telling us he ran away and he's missing so the police are looking for him

08:38:08.000 he's not showing up at school i'm stressed because i'm like oh my gosh you know and he says like f

08:38:12.720 you i'm done blah blah and then he's just out hiding with his friends doing drugs somewhere

08:38:17.020 so it was just like messy and then all that happened he went to the psych ward crying right

08:38:22.500 and i told him like i'm sorry like i cannot you know take you back and then once he gets out of

08:38:27.480 the psych ward a few um weeks later so he calls me when he's driving and he's like i'm just letting

08:38:32.240 you know, like I'm going to, if you don't take me back, like I'm in the car, I'm going

08:38:37.100 a hundred right now.

08:38:37.980 So then my stepdad takes the phone and he says, you're not going to yourself with my

08:38:42.280 daughter on the phone and hangs up.

08:38:44.780 And then he crashed the car, but he lived, he lived, but I know he was doing that on

08:38:48.960 purpose.

08:38:49.560 Good grief.

08:38:50.180 Good times.

08:38:50.940 Yeah.

08:38:51.620 Love, love those stories.

08:38:53.520 Anyway, those are some, sounds like a blast.

08:38:57.420 Topics.

08:38:58.020 Uh, you think porn slash only fans kills love porn is cheating.

08:39:01.160 I do think so.

08:39:01.580 i do think it's cheating you think it's cheating and i think is social media cheating when women

08:39:05.400 social media like what do you mean when what do you mean like like porn bad social media bad

08:39:10.100 social media in general like porn is you say porn is cheating yeah social media is it cheating

08:39:15.980 social media in what way i don't know making making posts what is this very big like okay

08:39:22.500 like i think well here here's where i'm sort of getting to so now women do consume porn and they

08:39:30.140 consume yeah um they often will consume in different ways sometimes it's like text yeah

08:39:36.360 porn like i guess it's called smut or yeah they're reading romance novels or some shit

08:39:42.300 that's pornographic in nature um but then uh men being the primary consumers of porn

08:39:51.240 uh i think there's a somewhat equivalent harm that's occurring when women use social media

08:39:58.820 so fair proposition i here's the trade you guys take this trade um men can never watch porn again

08:40:07.580 they can't do only fans they can't watch porn that's off the table in exchange though we got

08:40:12.800 to do a trade i do trade women are not allowed to use social media but what's the harm in the

08:40:18.080 social media like let's say they're only posting good content they're posting it doesn't matter

08:40:22.060 what they're posting it's if if you're consuming it in any capacity but what if you're not consuming

08:40:26.700 what if you go on you make a post you get off but what's the harm you're not being consumer

08:40:30.660 you watch you watch a wholesome little uh romantic erotic porn video and you bust a nut

08:40:38.040 and you watch not very wholesome you watch porn you watch porn for 10 minutes you get your nut

08:40:44.140 and that's it for the day what's what's the harm

08:40:48.680 i mean your relationship like you're looking at someone else and i think it's bad for my

08:40:55.360 relationship for my woman to be like social media addicted or be on social media you're lusting

08:41:01.000 after someone else like that's wrong well so maybe maybe i don't know this is women are creating lust

08:41:06.640 perspective on their social media i guess oh they are but what if you're not creating what if

08:41:09.860 there's nothing less about your social media but it's actually you encourage your attention oriented

08:41:14.460 then so she's receiving validation and attention from social media that she should be getting from

08:41:20.320 her family and her boyfriend but what if they don't care about the likes or the views what if

08:41:24.440 they only do it to help people what if they don't care i mean you could say that about a lot of

08:41:28.300 people don't care about likes i'm saying like what if it's not like that deep like they're

08:41:31.800 like they actually want to reach people well but then i could also similarly demonstrate well

08:41:36.080 surely you would agree that there are instances where the porn consumption is done in moderation

08:41:42.280 and it's not harmful to the man but any is wrong in my opinion well you know what she swipes on

08:41:49.440 She looks at one Instagram reel.

08:41:52.180 Wrong.

08:41:52.700 What?

08:41:53.300 That's not the same as cheating.

08:41:55.020 She's cheating on me.

08:41:56.140 Also, women use...

08:41:56.780 And it's not good for your brain.

08:41:57.660 Women use Instagram.

08:41:58.600 It isn't good for your brain.

08:41:59.620 But what if you're not scrolling is what I'm saying.

08:42:00.980 Women use Instagram for dating, so it's cheating.

08:42:03.440 Actually, most women do not use Instagram for dating.

08:42:06.420 Instagram is the most popular dating app.

08:42:08.000 I don't think men are the ones who reach out to women to date them on Instagram.

08:42:11.120 This is what I'm getting to.

08:42:12.440 But I'm not on there posting because I want a man to reach out to me.

08:42:15.160 You post, you got your titty showing and your booty showing and you're, you're posting kind

08:42:20.900 of revealing stuff.

08:42:21.820 You're posting some thirst traps on your Instagram.

08:42:23.720 Let me tell you, let me tell you what, it still doesn't mean that I'm looking for a

08:42:28.380 guy to reach out.

08:42:29.160 It doesn't matter though, because I'll explain it like this.

08:42:31.160 Do you ever approach men?

08:42:33.960 Jen or like Jen, one time you did, but how many first dates have you been on a lot?

08:42:40.180 A hundred plus?

08:42:41.300 I don't know.

08:42:41.860 A lot in my lifetime.

08:42:43.420 Okay.

08:42:43.660 how many of those did you initiate one yeah okay so women's dating mating sexual strategy whatever

08:42:54.020 it is however you want to label it women operate differently women maneuver differently so men's

08:43:00.040 strategy take initiative shoot their shot make the first move be the first make the first move

08:43:05.600 um women more passive let the men come to you put yourself in positions to be approached

08:43:13.280 either in person or online gather uh build an audience get men to come to you source men through

08:43:20.520 that way uh go to bars go to clubs the ones that are making this happen then maybe the men should

08:43:25.760 be off social media and women should just get to like each other's posts and look at their clothes

08:43:30.480 and and look at cute puppies and men shouldn't be allowed to be on social the point i'm trying

08:43:35.000 to make here is that pervert we women's we can acknowledge that women's strategy when it comes

08:43:41.380 to dating is not, you don't operate the same way men do. So when women are looking for a guy,

08:43:48.220 they're not going to be like, okay, a guy goes out to a bar or nightclub. He's going to approach

08:43:53.760 10 different women and shoot a shot. Maybe sometimes you get lucky on the first, but you're

08:43:58.840 going to shoot your shot, um, 10 different women, and you're going to work volume and you're going

08:44:04.980 approach a bunch of women women don't do that women don't do that um they're going to

08:44:12.020 be passive let men come to them and pick uh the best man or pick the ideal man or whatever

08:44:18.960 in a relationship it's clear we would agree that it would be cheating for either the man or the

08:44:26.100 woman to take on that um non-passive role of taking initiative shooting your shot hitting on

08:44:33.960 somebody, but women don't operate that way to begin with, but we stifle men, we stifle men's

08:44:41.180 dating strategy. Shoot your shot in a relationship. We do nothing to stifle women's strategy. So

08:44:48.820 women's strategy is, but that's not women's strategy. We don't post on there to get men,

08:44:53.000 men go on the internet to get women. So I understand that like, look, you're going to

08:45:01.200 get hit on when you go to trader joe's my position would not be you're not allowed to go to the

08:45:06.240 supermarket in fear of a man hitting on you however there should be some uh what's the term

08:45:14.800 batting down the hatch tightening up the hatch women who go women who go to bars and clubs

08:45:19.860 if you're in a relationship that has to be over similarly with social media if you're posting

08:45:26.900 thirst traps and you are i get that you the men are coming to you it's out of your control

08:45:32.940 she's she's what she's she's on her period what oh okay all right well we're almost wrapped up

08:45:43.580 we're almost wrapped up but um so i believe that women are posting photos and being on social media

08:45:52.500 and part of that entails i know hey you're not forcing the men to do it the men are doing it

08:45:57.480 just kind of on their own volition uh they're gonna shoot dms i believe a woman needs to shut

08:46:05.060 down her edge in a relationship so her edge is putting herself out there in positions to be

08:46:11.360 approached i don't necessarily agree with this when i was going to looks max in camp one thing

08:46:21.940 that we did was go out and do cold approaches. And I felt like for me, it didn't make any sense

08:46:26.840 because when I go out and try to be approached, I do exactly what you say. I'll go to a bar or,

08:46:32.680 you know, I'll position myself in a place where, you know, the kind of men that I would like to

08:46:37.680 approach me will be. I would say this, um, as, as it relates to social media and why I know it's

08:46:46.820 a bit of stretch, but why it's more cheating as a man. If you've got a thousand followers on

08:46:53.540 Instagram and you're just, you're a nobody, no girls are sliding into your DMS. If you're say

08:47:01.160 you're a 19 year old guy in college, if you're a 19 year old woman in college and you got a thousand

08:47:05.560 followers, dudes are sliding into your DM. You could be a nobody as a woman and you're getting

08:47:10.900 attention that way i believe if we should if if in a relationship men have to shut down their

08:47:17.600 strategy women need to shut down their strategy but what is the strategy though of men in person

08:47:23.300 so men's strategy shoot your shot whether in person or on online on the dating app in social

08:47:29.840 media men it's clear like men you should stop shooting your shot if you're in a relationship

08:47:35.000 women should stop putting themselves in positions to be approached you don't think they should even

08:47:41.560 be active on instagram yep if you're my girlfriend you gotta hey you can go private you can go

08:47:48.640 private shit let's say let's say like they have a business or something or you know it's like their

08:47:54.120 job but not like anything you know promiscuous just like you know then what but they don't

08:48:01.520 answer anything i guess you have to trust the loyalty there's not enough time to go too much

08:48:05.700 back and forth on that but you say not all men are evil no that's right what percentage what

08:48:10.580 percent are i don't know i mean there's a majority are a majority of men evil no i don't know i

08:48:15.940 honestly i don't know but i just know that there's a lot who are not yeah that's all but

08:48:20.040 you you you can't even just say um probably not probably not majority i just don't know

08:48:27.220 most men. I just don't know most men. Um, control different types of abuse. Uh, do you want to

08:48:34.000 elaborate on that? Kind of like what we talked about, you know? Okay. Can I ask you a question?

08:48:38.920 Yeah. Um, is it fair to have boundaries in a relationship? Yeah, absolutely. So how do we

08:48:45.220 distinguish between a man having boundaries and control? So, uh, is not wanting your girlfriend

08:48:51.580 to wear revealing clothing is that controlling or is that boundary okay what if i don't want my

08:48:57.260 girlfriend posting revealing photos on social media boundary or controlling boundary what if

08:49:02.160 i don't want her going to bars and clubs boundary i wouldn't even want to uh you say men how men

08:49:08.440 have biblical biblical values twisted how so i think this is what i've seen recently is that

08:49:14.260 like people for example like this will they're taking scripture out of context to like prove

08:49:20.660 their way we were talking with this there was a lady who was on a date with a guy they're at a

08:49:26.120 picnic and they're doing a bible study and he's like you got to be quiet because you're a woman

08:49:30.920 like and i'm like this is like you know what i'm saying they're taking out of context so i've seen

08:49:35.420 this like in terms of like talking to people is they think like being a good leader is like i

08:49:42.200 don't know like it's like larp you know what i'm saying like they're like going above and beyond

08:49:45.860 they're like okay instead of just being like okay like we should talk about this it's like no i'm

08:49:50.640 in charge we're doing this and it's just like it feels more like a dictatorship where that's

08:49:55.260 not how it should be that's why i that's why i'm based and red-pilled but like yeah but

08:50:01.580 christianity is patriarchal yeah right so christianity is patriarchal so that does give men

08:50:08.560 authority authority but authority like did jesus be like do this do this do this right now all the

08:50:15.000 time sometimes leadership can look sometimes but i don't know if jesus specifically was like that

08:50:20.400 but i'm saying he led by example right so like he led by example and i think a good leader

08:50:24.400 this was the thing i had to deal with like in my relationship that i didn't like is like

08:50:28.320 if you're a good leader i will just naturally respect you right like well that's for me at

08:50:33.860 least okay if i could see you're good you have good leadership i'll naturally you know i think

08:50:37.980 god would disagree i mean hey how many times i'm telling us to do the things and we're like

08:50:42.220 no i'm not doing the things i'm not saying perfect but i'm just saying like yeah you know

08:50:46.160 you see those traits that's awesome but you don't have to be like demanding like you're

08:50:49.540 going to listen to me now because that's what i saw grant from my dad okay right and i don't agree

08:50:54.260 with that kind of leadership you know i'm saying well jesus did it and they had i mean we have a

08:51:00.820 choice we got amelia here amelia juggernaut as she goes and uh we can switch back to the different

08:51:09.220 the next split um ick list when a man asks you about your job or how much money you have

08:51:15.400 that gives you the ick yeah how much money you got i i looked in like to date in the past from

08:51:22.500 2023 to now on only fans i've grossed five million dollars good night and you didn't ask for a guy

08:51:31.560 who makes five million i should get a little cut i need a little cut from this we must have sent a

08:51:37.280 couple bucks your way oh my good gracious a couple bucks your way you got cash on you right now wait

08:51:43.220 a minute that progressed so fast oh shit you had to reach deep in there she had a shit i was like

08:51:52.280 you know some girls just do a little but you were no i gotta hide it all the way down in there you

08:51:59.240 know can i ask you this is just this just came to my mind this was not prepped so it's fucking crazy

08:52:04.620 okay uh just what's the word when just like thoughts come to your brain and so what's that

08:52:09.840 word random have you weighed them i've tried to this is the this is the issue that i have with it

08:52:16.280 like if i try to put them down on a scale i don't know if i'm putting too much weight down or not

08:52:20.280 enough yeah wait you're back somebody somebody in the chat tell me if the physics would make

08:52:25.660 sense on this so say you had a girlfriend who's with you by a scale and then they the the girl

08:52:33.120 held the boobs up with that yeah i need the people to tell me would that in terms of would

08:52:40.480 the weight on the scale go down i have a scale wait oh my god is any woman are you willing to

08:52:48.520 hold up sure if it will work chat should we do this oh my god oh my god who's who's going to

08:52:58.780 who's the tribute or whatever

08:53:01.360 whoever feels comfortable

08:53:02.880 you gotta have good strength though

08:53:05.400 because those are some candy crushers

08:53:07.220 not the candy crushers

08:53:09.580 you gotta have good biceps

08:53:12.000 good forearms

08:53:13.260 even if I hold them up for like

08:53:15.120 a little bit my wrist starts

08:53:17.260 it wouldn't work if I do it

08:53:18.940 because I'm holding them myself

08:53:20.560 yeah it would work

08:53:22.040 I'm holding up my own boots

08:53:23.900 if I stood on a scale

08:53:27.480 And then I lifted my boobs up.

08:53:29.360 I'm still on the weight.

08:53:30.240 Sorry.

08:53:30.960 It's okay.

08:53:31.300 It's okay.

08:53:32.100 Okay.

08:53:32.800 Um, who cares?

08:53:35.620 Whatever.

08:53:36.300 Um, I'll, someone give me the water displacement method that I need to do and I'll make a whole

08:53:41.980 video about it.

08:53:43.400 So it gives you the ick if a man asks about your job, like ask what it is or ask details.

08:53:49.420 There, there is a viral clip of me going on a speed date where he, you know, asked me

08:53:54.320 about my job then about my money then if he could manage me and it just kind of turned into a

08:54:00.100 business discussion and so I feel like you know I do make a decent amount of money so I would like

08:54:06.220 to be able to get to know someone and have them get to know me first before it just funnels into

08:54:11.320 you know I'm okay with talking about my job and everything like that but sometimes it just

08:54:16.600 i love that for you yeah thank you

08:54:20.760 uh as far as finishing our notes uh

08:54:25.900 i mean there's your old show notes like you had disagreements with like andrew wilson i guess but

08:54:32.380 we probably already talked about that last time so um i did think andrew wilson's debate with

08:54:39.240 candace owens was pretty top i enjoyed watching that yeah who do you think won oh that would be

08:54:45.820 interesting Andrew Wilson you thought Andrew Wilson won facts he definitely won I I'm a

08:54:51.060 conspiracy theorist so I kind of I definitely think that the government killed Charlie Kirk

08:54:56.880 and I think that's what we were talking about really yeah 100% I think it was a Kennedy

08:55:01.220 assassination no I don't think so what do you think I'm not gonna get into that no um as far

08:55:08.340 as I know there's there's no actual um I've not seen any compelling evidence yeah that suggests

08:55:14.840 that there was there's an alternative story you don't think the case should be over by now though

08:55:19.660 murder trials take forever yeah that's right this was a year ago like yeah murder trials take a long

08:55:25.660 time yeah especially like a high profile one like this um kennedy's uh i've never nothing has ever

08:55:33.280 really been solved with his or we know of like it's kind of all because the government did it

08:55:37.580 yeah i mean i'm sorry i'm just like a very firm believer okay what is your bit you say the

08:55:43.280 government did it yeah the united states government um the jews oh my god israel okay

08:55:50.560 what's your what is your most compelling piece of evidence that israel uh is responsible for

08:55:59.240 the assassination of charlie kirk just the idea that he um was starting to get farther away

08:56:05.440 from israel and not wanting to go to israel and you know just that wouldn't that's not evidence

08:56:12.320 though that's a conspiracy theory i'm not saying i'm not saying that i have compelling evidence i

08:56:18.280 you know or anything like that i'm just saying i kind of believe in that yeah but he also he he's

08:56:23.140 a republican so why would it not be a democrat he's also conservative why would not be a liberal

08:56:28.120 there's no liberals that are like as polarizing as kirk was you know i think that he was really

08:56:35.560 influential and i think that he like made a lot of people think and that he was bridging he was

08:56:40.940 bridging the gap between the two you know he was creating conversations to try to bridge that gap

08:56:46.340 and i think that in the world we live in right now the divide is wanting to be kept okay you know

08:56:51.760 but if i say i got murdered i've obviously been critical of like only fans would it stand to

08:56:58.340 reason because of my criticism of only fans that it would establish that i was murdered by an only

08:57:04.740 fans crater i i could understand how like he the idea of him being murdered by someone far left

08:57:11.920 like it doesn't not make sense to me i don't believe that you think israel killed charlie

08:57:16.480 kirk and i just i understand so i understand the theories that are thrown out there make me think

08:57:21.900 i understand he said things about you know he had some donors and you know he um you know something

08:57:29.180 about the cause or i don't remember the exact um words or details about it but by the way i'm

08:57:38.100 pretty sure he was like the things he said didn't mean he was like anti-israel no i'm not but even

08:57:45.760 if he was moving away from the israel cause or whatever how does that establish that they

08:57:52.020 murdered him i'm not saying it it does because obviously i'm not that deep into it i'm just

08:57:56.740 saying on i err on the side of conspiracy theories so when i am but you need you need some evidence

08:58:02.240 for it so as a as probably the top political operative i think there's like he he had really

08:58:11.780 hot takes about trans people like no i could see there's a bigger why the left group would want to

08:58:17.120 do there's a way bigger link to this being motivated by political ideology the trans stuff

08:58:23.420 the the well you probably don't think the shooter is tyler robinson no if it is tyler robinson i

08:58:28.540 completely understand why he would have done it and i understand why they would have been so

08:58:32.160 mentally uh out of it that they would for some reason think that that was like what they wanted

08:58:38.160 to do and if tyler robinson didn't you know i fully you know support the death penalty or

08:58:43.520 whatever for him having done that but but you're saying well charlie kirk said things that pissed

08:58:48.500 off israel charlie kirk said things that pissed off a lot of people and the person who they have

08:58:54.380 in custody right now uh he's admitting to it yeah well uh did there was some i think confession um

08:59:03.720 but i'm a bit confused if you're if your threshold for like your evidentiary threshold is

08:59:11.520 motive like motive is not enough to establish whether someone committed a crime or not yeah

08:59:20.320 well i'm not i'm not like actually trying to argue that like the government or the you know

08:59:27.860 i just i i like to i like to aid into the conspiracy theory so like yeah no i i don't

08:59:33.860 i don't sit behind this and go for hours of trying to like why do it the same way candace

08:59:38.860 owens does i just i was just saying that in those two sides i like to go israel what well that's

08:59:45.180 because that's what the conspiracy theory of it all says you know what i mean what are they saying

08:59:48.700 what is the evidence that it's israel what's the evidence yeah i think that obviously like i'm i

08:59:56.140 would just spew out the things that candace owens says about you know well i don't know what those

09:00:00.400 things are oh like she she has said that um that it was his microphone that exploded and she has

09:00:06.980 related that to um different israeli missions where they used uh walkie-talkies as explosion

09:00:14.560 as explosive devices to like carry on missions you're talking like i know what you're talking

09:00:19.780 about yeah it's just it's literally just different conspiracies that i've heard that she's said

09:00:24.780 beepers right yeah they had like uh and pagers pagers or cell phones and and it was like planted

09:00:31.220 like months or years in advance or something or just like camera evidence being tampered with and

09:00:36.140 things like that like things that were being used in the trial like you know she'll just dissect

09:00:40.080 different things like okay so you're saying because there's this evidence of israel having

09:00:44.280 the these explosive devices that this and by the way it's not even clear that we've that there's

09:00:51.300 been no established proof that not it was actually the exploding microphone i'm sure that's been

09:00:56.840 completely debunked but anyways i don't know i'm not gonna have an extended exchange i didn't really

09:01:01.420 want to debate too hard with you on that one i just but i just don't think there's any good

09:01:05.120 evidence there's no good evidence from the side about um what was what was that oh i thought i

09:01:12.540 heard something else i don't know um i i've not heard any compelling evidence in terms of that

09:01:18.320 that is compelling in terms of there being some conspiracy okay um do we know a hundred percent

09:01:26.060 like it you know what we know is that charlie's dead and that in and of itself is incredibly sad

09:01:31.620 and more than anything, I wish that

09:01:33.680 he was not dead.

09:01:35.840 Anyways, we're not going to do

09:01:37.580 the Charlie Kirk debate. Okay, any final

09:01:39.640 thoughts from anybody before I wrap the show?

09:01:41.600 Good night. We love you.

09:01:44.040 Any final thoughts?

09:01:45.440 I'm trying to think about it. Can I just pray?

09:01:47.400 Well, there's a few, like one or two other things we have

09:01:49.600 to do. Tiffany, do you have the AI photos? We'll do the

09:01:51.580 AI segment.

09:01:53.260 I'm not going to do, I don't think.

09:01:55.540 Should we do a bit of rapid fire?

09:01:57.940 I don't know.

09:01:59.260 What's rapid fire?

09:02:00.060 I have a two hour drive

09:02:03.320 This is the longest we've ever done this point

09:02:05.460 I have a two hour drive

09:02:06.680 My car doesn't have gas in it

09:02:09.700 And I am afraid to go to a gas station

09:02:12.020 At this time

09:02:12.560 Santa Barbara is very safe

09:02:15.180 We can ride with you to the gas station

09:02:18.500 If you want

09:02:19.020 But here let's do the AI segment

09:02:20.600 If you can pull that up

09:02:22.220 Oh my goodness

09:02:26.400 Okay that's pretty sexy

09:02:27.320 The question is would you date the male version of you

09:02:30.040 Come on.

09:02:30.540 Oh, I want to say that.

09:02:31.460 So she's...

09:02:32.620 He looks like he has some...

09:02:33.520 Isn't she dating somebody?

09:02:34.660 So she'd probably say that.

09:02:35.580 All right, next.

09:02:39.920 Oh, my God.

09:02:40.860 Oh, no.

09:02:41.820 Would you date the male version of you?

09:02:43.100 No, I wouldn't.

09:02:44.800 No.

09:02:45.700 It's not bad.

09:02:46.920 He looks like my brother, but, like, fatter, way fatter.

09:02:51.620 Okay, next.

09:02:54.420 Oh, he's cute.

09:02:56.440 He's cute.

09:02:57.180 Would you date him?

09:02:58.280 No?

09:02:58.620 No.

09:02:58.960 i don't like blue eyes on a guy i don't like blue eyes on a guy what you date black guys

09:03:04.380 i've never dates with blue eyes so i just don't like i'm not attracted to people with blue eyes

09:03:08.680 typically i don't know why you have blue eyes i know i know maybe it's like i don't want to be

09:03:13.700 incesty i don't know that's not incest i know i know but i'm just saying i think my family all

09:03:19.140 has very like she's green eyes very bright eyes and so for me don't you want your children to

09:03:23.680 look like you i really dislike people with darker eyes but i don't think he's bad looking

09:03:28.420 it's a deal breaker if they have it's not a deal breaker i'm just i typically she's never dated

09:03:34.080 a guy one percent attract like there's one percent i'd be attracted to of males with

09:03:38.100 with super blonde hair or super blonde that's a good looking guy but he's cute that's cute

09:03:42.420 besides the eye but he's not my type he had brown eyes how about that yes like like tom holland

09:03:50.060 christian christian bale okay my all right next i'm selling you right now no um yeah that's not

09:03:56.980 No, that looks like

09:03:59.200 Wait, how'd he get so old?

09:04:01.340 Why does he look old though?

09:04:02.440 Wait, why does it look like you're about to give a blood draw?

09:04:04.820 I don't know. I had a pain in my arm

09:04:07.680 That's when she caught me and I was like rubbing my arm

09:04:09.820 Would you date him? No

09:04:11.140 It seems like you're making a judgment

09:04:14.080 Oh, he definitely doesn't look like my dad

09:04:15.640 No, not your dad, but I mean like he's old enough to be your dad

09:04:17.880 Yeah, he does look old enough to be my dad

09:04:19.180 Next

09:04:19.540 Yeah, he's not my type

09:04:20.520 No, that's not

09:04:23.160 That's like actually insane

09:04:25.400 are you kidding me that's what you got from me i don't know that is so i've seen my i've seen

09:04:31.320 what i look like it's not it no that's actually crazy yeah all right next no way mom

09:04:39.160 what is this is jade this is i mean he's gotta dye the hair yeah that hair he doesn't look like

09:04:48.380 he's straight no he doesn't so i don't think he would go for you i don't think he would go for

09:04:52.760 you girl you're pretty he's not pretty he's not pretty that's not but we could be friends next

09:04:58.500 oh oh that's a good artist oh wait but no hey she's a lesbian bro

09:05:04.400 all right next it's actually funny oh no wait he looks like a celebrity wait he looks like

09:05:11.520 miley cyrus's dad no he looks like what's his face um but also like jared leto no i was gonna

09:05:17.980 do you see it he said he looks like the country star um um who sings um new york girls they

09:05:25.180 can be so pretty i forgot his name oh my gosh oh my god oh wait that's kind of swag no he's not

09:05:31.800 he looks like a teacher next he's like professor he looks nice oh boy it's me i think right

09:05:35.640 oh my god what is happening yo y'all did me dirty what's up with the show

09:05:42.220 The girl gets fatter and fatter every week.

09:05:46.540 That's why she's so cute.

09:05:48.320 ChatGPT is off the chain, bro.

09:05:51.980 You know what, though?

09:05:52.880 The girl on the right, I think the facial aesthetics are definitely there if she lost weight.

09:05:59.580 She could be quite the catch.

09:06:02.560 Wait, there's a...

09:06:03.160 Hold on.

09:06:03.560 Wait, wait, wait.

09:06:04.220 I have a thing for this.

09:06:04.940 Wait, wait.

09:06:05.180 There's more.

09:06:06.500 Wait.

09:06:07.080 I know you're not a natural beauty, but I think with the right clothes and the right look,

09:06:10.700 you could be very striking.

09:06:12.220 yes there you go there you go um any final thoughts from anybody on

09:06:17.160 can i do should we do rapid you want to do rapid fire

09:06:20.700 no what's that i could do what sounds fine it's like a little quick segment at the end i just ask

09:06:27.180 you like basic simple question yes yes yes come on all right we'll do a little bit

09:06:32.600 no yeah exactly no discussion just go we can do it i don't care we'll do a little bit i'm not

09:06:40.400 going to do all of them but we'll do just a little bit uh here i'm going to start here so

09:06:44.440 i did trivia on my lives that's why i like this what percentage of men do you think are over six

09:06:51.340 feet oh the calculator okay we'll do that too oh 30 30 what do you think 35 20 over six feet

09:07:01.160 Oh, over in America or is this like, let's just say USA, USA, USA, 5%, Oh, 25, 25.

09:07:08.980 Okay.

09:07:09.780 Let's do the calculator for chase here really quick.

09:07:13.940 Let's do the calculator.

09:07:15.140 You got it, Tiffany.

09:07:16.660 All right.

09:07:17.600 We're going to find your ideal man.

09:07:19.100 We're going to find him.

09:07:19.900 Okay.

09:07:20.740 All right.

09:07:21.600 Give us your age range of menu a date.

09:07:25.440 32.

09:07:27.400 Let's say 40.

09:07:28.460 Okay.

09:07:28.780 Exclude married.

09:07:30.260 Yeah.

09:07:30.740 No marriage.

09:07:31.160 uh race um i'm typically into white guys so should we put white white probably okay minimum height

09:07:40.740 oh did you already do it you already did it tiffany w yo w's in the chat for tiffany

09:07:45.480 let's go tiffany all right tiffany exclude obese because i like to be active and okay

09:07:53.600 Exclued obese, find out.

09:07:55.960 All right, let's see.

09:07:57.220 0.0072% of men.

09:08:01.440 So if you're watching this, you don't belong on this planet.

09:08:05.120 Oh, boy.

09:08:05.620 That's crazy.

09:08:06.540 Okay.

09:08:08.260 What percentage of men make at least $1 million a year?

09:08:12.860 Oh, gosh.

09:08:15.140 1%, maybe.

09:08:17.420 7?

09:08:18.540 7%.

09:08:19.020 2%?

09:08:19.760 2%, next.

09:08:20.480 1.

09:08:22.460 12%.

09:08:22.940 less than one what really make one million dollars one million dollars is not a lot of

09:08:29.200 money these days a lot of money oh yes per year it's that's a good amount of money yeah only

09:08:33.980 that's that puts you in the top one percent scary that's good uh even a bit less than the top one

09:08:40.640 percent of earners what percentage of men have yachts one percent a little closer to the mic

09:08:47.560 1%.

09:08:48.080 Thank you, sir.

09:08:48.920 Appreciate it.

09:08:52.060 I should do, when I do the, I'm going to do, I'm not going to do this.

09:08:56.840 Do a little sign off, yeah.

09:08:58.540 All right.

09:08:59.680 Percentage of men who have yachts?

09:09:01.520 0.03.

09:09:03.800 0.02.

09:09:04.760 I'm going with that 0.03.

09:09:06.340 Well, less than 1%.

09:09:07.820 Indeed.

09:09:08.900 What percentage of men do you find attractive?

09:09:11.760 Less than 1%.

09:09:12.920 I would say maybe like 30% of men.

09:09:17.340 that's a good guess like 30 are you saying less than visuals yeah oh less than one oh less than

09:09:23.880 one yeah look don't start we gotta talk about that less than one my eyes are for one man well

09:09:29.560 you're already you're married so that's kind of less than one less than one percent the men you're

09:09:34.780 trying to do she i need to see uh do any of you keep a list of all the men you've been with

09:09:40.780 on your phone, like in a

09:09:42.660 note. Do you?

09:09:45.100 Six.

09:09:46.300 It's one for you. No, but I know a man

09:09:48.360 who does that. Really? Yeah, it's

09:09:50.340 over 200. What?

09:09:51.980 I mean, it's in my head, but not on the paper. I'm not going to

09:09:54.360 write that down. No, he's just a whore.

09:09:56.780 Yeah, he's just a whore.

09:09:58.180 He's in construction.

09:10:00.140 Really? Yep, Miami.

09:10:02.340 Gong, starting with you,

09:10:04.140 what species are we?

09:10:06.080 Close to the...

09:10:07.040 Can we just scoot over just

09:10:10.020 two inches just a little bit scoot into the table scoot into the table scoot your chair

09:10:13.520 scoot your chair we are humans uh okay and center center the microphone please so it's like in

09:10:19.860 center of you good uh humans okay homo sapiens homo sapiens homo sapiens homo sapiens name three

09:10:28.500 countries besides the usa um countries zimbabwe uh italy and england

09:10:40.560 cool go ahead germany one after the other germany france and spain say mongolia russia and

09:10:48.440 kazakhstan canada russia peru canada mexico and china how how many continents are there

09:10:59.760 seven yeah seven seven seven name one continent asia north america i was gonna say oceania to

09:11:13.580 be like cool but whatever i'm gonna say australia africa uh asia can't repeat oh i didn't hear what

09:11:19.900 you said uh so what's been said you said asia africa antarctica okay nay uh what two countries

09:11:28.560 border the usa um south america and canada

09:11:33.840 are you asking like mexico and canada yeah

09:11:41.940 good save chase good save she was just thinking sound oh my gosh what's above us canada what's

09:11:53.180 below us mexico if you're looking at a map that's right in front of you point with your fingers

09:11:59.140 which way is north which way south west east oh i don't know i don't know what that is how many

09:12:08.740 states are in the usa 50 what is the capital of the usa washington dc name two countries in europe

09:12:16.860 two countries in europe yep um i just said italy can you tilt the mic down just a few minutes

09:12:27.260 two countries in europe yep um

09:12:31.760 czech republic and we also have bulgaria

09:12:39.700 how many planets are in our solar system seven how many planets are in our solar system yes

09:12:47.460 13 no 13 eight but there's been nine but like one's not a planet nine nine no there's eight

09:12:52.680 Because Pluto is no longer a planet.

09:12:54.960 We keep flip-flopping on Pluto.

09:12:56.460 What planet do we live on?

09:13:00.240 Earth.

09:13:01.000 Earth.

09:13:01.680 Earth.

09:13:02.120 Are you sure?

09:13:02.560 Are you sure, Chase?

09:13:03.740 What if I bought the entire Earth?

09:13:06.520 Well, I felt like a Connie reference.

09:13:08.800 We're already on Mars.

09:13:11.740 What is the capital of Hawaii?

09:13:14.580 What?

09:13:16.600 It's Honolulu.

09:13:17.960 It's Honolulu.

09:13:18.480 the government building the pentagon is what shape no it's a triangle isn't it yeah yeah yeah

09:13:27.660 what is it the pentagon are you sure it's a pentagon why would they name a building after

09:13:34.180 the shape of the building because that makes sense she says it's a triangle i think you guys

09:13:38.720 might be wrong no yeah brian it's late but we're not that it's a pentagon no it's a pentagon

09:13:44.280 what is the uh what what country is directly north of mexico north of mexico america all right

09:13:56.400 skipping a bunch how many sides does a triangle have speaking of triangles three you sure final

09:14:00.680 answer yes congrats you got it right uh what do you call a shape with five sides um pentagon uh

09:14:11.500 you are correct well done how many zeros are in 1 million this is important because you want a guy

09:14:17.280 who makes 5 million dollars so you should know i think it's nine no one zero zero zero zero zero

09:14:25.440 there's six that's right you said nine though that would be maybe we're reaching higher what

09:14:32.040 do you call a shape with eight sides um octagon what country gifted the statue excuse me what

09:14:38.460 country gifted the statue of liberty to the u.s i want to say england or france which one you got

09:14:44.120 to pick one though france i think what continent is brazil in south america what continent is

09:14:52.840 egypt in uh africa what continent is japan in asia i love japan how many dimes make a dollar

09:15:00.900 what is the capital of france um paris capital of japan um i think it's a capital of japan

09:15:09.460 yeah um sorry i just blanked capital of japan tokyo

09:15:16.820 i don't know what is what is a thousand divide by 10 um 100 if today is monday what day is it in

09:15:26.280 three days uh sorry no in three days thursday if you have three quarters how much money do you have

09:15:33.060 75 cents who painted the mona lisa oh my god leonardo oh my god what is the name of the

09:15:43.820 famous car company founded by henry ford how many nickels make a dollar

09:15:50.900 20 yeah finish the term isosceles blank uh i don't know isosceles blank i'll give you a hint

09:16:04.520 it's a shape yeah isosceles yeah yeah you got it 50 of 200 100 10 of the 100 10 5 times 5 it's 25

09:16:18.680 12 divided by 3.

09:16:20.520 I don't know.

09:16:21.260 Oh, 4.

09:16:22.160 100 divided by 4.

09:16:23.440 100 divided by 4.

09:16:24.720 64.

09:16:25.800 25.

09:16:26.580 25.

09:16:27.100 15 plus 35.

09:16:28.560 Math is not my strong suit.

09:16:30.100 15 times 35?

09:16:31.840 Plus.

09:16:32.260 Plus 35.

09:16:33.100 Oh.

09:16:36.420 15 plus 35.

09:16:37.960 48.

09:16:39.320 40.

09:16:40.080 I'm really bad at math.

09:16:41.120 50.

09:16:41.540 How the fuck do you get 48?

09:16:43.120 How do you get 48 from math?

09:16:44.460 Because I panic in my head when I'm trying to do math.

09:16:46.760 How does anything that ever ends in a five ever end up like two fives?

09:16:52.800 I was literally in not good.

09:16:56.700 90 minus 45.

09:16:59.340 45.

09:17:00.340 Eight.

09:17:01.180 Sorry.

09:17:01.820 Sorry.

09:17:02.220 Sorry.

09:17:02.740 The hand.

09:17:03.740 The hand.

09:17:04.620 No helping.

09:17:05.940 No fucking helping.

09:17:07.260 The hand.

09:17:10.880 How many branches of U.S. government are there?

09:17:13.400 Oh, no.

09:17:13.740 This is three.

09:17:14.140 Oh.

09:17:16.760 I want to say there's three branches.

09:17:18.200 You want to say there's three branches.

09:17:19.940 There are three branches of the government.

09:17:21.400 Name one branch of the U.S. government.

09:17:23.960 Legislative.

09:17:25.140 Executive.

09:17:26.000 What document, how many stars are on the U.S. flag?

09:17:29.620 50.

09:17:30.400 What century are we in?

09:17:31.580 The 21st.

09:17:32.380 What galaxy do we live in?

09:17:33.880 Milky Way.

09:17:35.120 How many in one dozen?

09:17:36.860 12.

09:17:37.320 How many in a baker's dozen?

09:17:39.340 A baker's dozen.

09:17:40.200 Is it not 12?

09:17:40.960 No.

09:17:41.940 It's 13.

09:17:42.560 I don't bake.

09:17:43.900 I'm a baker.

09:17:44.820 Okay, it's 13.

09:17:45.400 How many months in a decade?

09:17:48.480 How many months in a decade?

09:17:50.540 Yep.

09:17:51.120 12 times 10, 120.

09:17:53.960 What country did the United States gain its independence from?

09:17:59.100 Britain.

09:18:00.660 We will accept that answer.

09:18:02.980 Who was the first president of the USA?

09:18:05.500 George Washington.

09:18:06.820 What country is the Great Wall of China in?

09:18:09.220 China.

09:18:11.200 How many days in a year?

09:18:13.140 365.

09:18:14.100 How many letters in the alphabet?

09:18:15.400 I always miss

09:18:18.780 26, 27

09:18:20.380 26, 26, 6, 7

09:18:23.300 26, 26

09:18:24.620 Why are you doing that?

09:18:30.300 Why are you doing that?

09:18:30.980 You're sticking out of your time

09:18:32.000 I do that every time on my live because I just think it's funny

09:18:35.040 So I just have to do that on my live

09:18:36.500 Shout out Eden.Faith

09:18:37.660 We'll do trivia and games

09:18:41.440 So this is something I'd like to do online

09:18:42.720 So I appreciate it

09:18:44.340 How many days of the week end with the letter Y?

09:18:48.460 Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturdays on all seven.

09:18:53.280 What language do the people speak in Idaho?

09:18:56.340 English.

09:18:58.440 How many years are in a decade?

09:19:01.480 We just did that one.

09:19:02.380 It was 120.

09:19:03.680 No, years are in a decade.

09:19:06.280 100?

09:19:07.000 10.

09:19:08.140 How many are in a century?

09:19:09.460 100.

09:19:10.880 If a dozen eggs cost $3, how much is each egg?

09:19:13.820 25 cents a dozen eggs cost three dollars yeah

09:19:17.780 how much is each egg oh good gracious 25 cents well done uh for you what is the closest

09:19:27.580 star to earth the sun yes oh yeah look at this blinking

09:19:34.480 good job good job i'm proud of you chase wait that's your name yeah i was late um

09:19:42.160 what year did the war of 1812 start what chase

09:19:48.220 what weighs more a pound of feathers or a pound of bricks what country is the panama canal in

09:19:55.820 what language do people speak in spain spanish what country is mexico city in mexico what country

09:20:03.480 What state is New York City in?

09:20:05.800 New York.

09:20:06.780 Are you sure?

09:20:07.720 What state is New York City in?

09:20:09.440 Yeah.

09:20:10.300 I was born in.

09:20:11.120 New York.

09:20:12.260 What country is Sao Paulo in?

09:20:14.420 Brazil.

09:20:15.360 What country is Buenos Aires in?

09:20:17.880 Butchered that, but...

09:20:19.140 I'm a South American one.

09:20:21.700 Argentina.

09:20:22.100 Argentina.

09:20:22.680 Argentina.

09:20:23.660 What country is Rio de Janeiro in?

09:20:25.880 Brazil.

09:20:26.620 Brazil.

09:20:27.040 What country is Medellin in?

09:20:28.600 Oh, my gosh.

09:20:29.640 Here, Chase, what is it?

09:20:33.820 Medellin?

09:20:34.260 Is it Spain?

09:20:34.840 What country?

09:20:35.300 Is it Spain?

09:20:35.640 Is that Brazil too?

09:20:36.620 Is it Spain?

09:20:37.560 Hold on, I'll get to you.

09:20:39.340 Guess.

09:20:40.520 Spain?

09:20:41.000 Medellin?

09:20:41.560 Okay, go ahead.

09:20:42.080 Colombia.

09:20:42.700 Oh, I was close.

09:20:43.500 What country is Bogota in?

09:20:46.160 Colombia.

09:20:47.000 These ones I don't know.

09:20:48.220 Bogota?

09:20:48.720 Do you know Bogota?

09:20:50.040 No.

09:20:50.360 Colombia.

09:20:51.560 Bogota, Colombia.

09:20:52.560 What country is Lima in?

09:20:54.280 Peru.

09:20:55.280 Hey, wait, wait, wait.

09:20:55.940 I'm sorry.

09:20:56.680 I thought I wrote it.

09:20:57.500 I'm Peru.

09:20:58.000 uh what country is tijuana in mexico what country is baja california in

09:21:04.440 oh for now what country what country wait what united states country

09:21:09.040 look at his face baja isn't california oh it's in it's in the united states of america i'm sorry

09:21:18.620 i think it's in mexico you're you are correct it's in mexico yes

09:21:23.240 Baja's in Mexico.

09:21:23.800 Avocados from Mexico.

09:21:25.520 What?

09:21:25.980 Yeah, Baja's in Mexico.

09:21:27.400 No, he said Baja California.

09:21:28.100 That's right, it's in Mexico.

09:21:29.100 What country is Shanghai in?

09:21:31.240 China.

09:21:33.300 Rome.

09:21:34.700 Italy.

09:21:35.360 Barcelona.

09:21:36.680 Spain.

09:21:37.300 Paris.

09:21:38.060 France.

09:21:38.500 Tokyo.

09:21:39.180 Japan.

09:21:39.880 Delhi.

09:21:42.280 New Guinea.

09:21:43.640 India.

09:21:44.260 India.

09:21:45.200 Baghdad.

09:21:46.000 Ass up.

09:21:46.860 Baghdad.

09:21:47.480 Oh, that.

09:21:48.680 I guess somewhere in the Middle East, right?

09:21:51.000 Cairo.

09:21:52.280 Baghdad?

09:21:53.820 It's where we're sending you.

09:21:54.980 Isn't that Iran?

09:21:56.440 You said you were sending her to Iran.

09:21:57.760 Sorry, we're sending her somewhere close.

09:21:59.600 We're sending her somewhere.

09:22:00.380 It is Iraq, yes.

09:22:02.240 Fun.

09:22:04.780 Cairo.

09:22:05.980 That's also somewhere in the Middle East.

09:22:07.620 Egypt.

09:22:08.740 Yeah.

09:22:09.180 Vienna.

09:22:10.680 Italy?

09:22:11.280 Yeah.

09:22:12.620 Vienna.

09:22:13.600 Italy.

09:22:14.240 Vienna.

09:22:14.840 Italy.

09:22:15.440 Vienna.

09:22:15.980 Spain?

09:22:16.520 Vienna.

09:22:17.040 Italy.

09:22:17.700 If you all fail this, you all failed.

09:22:21.420 I'll give you each one more guess

09:22:23.900 Guess another country, Vienna

09:22:25.240 You're all wrong

09:22:26.600 Vienna

09:22:28.120 And not in Italy

09:22:32.620 Just guess a different country

09:22:34.500 It's not Italy

09:22:36.200 Vienna

09:22:36.960 France

09:22:38.600 Germany

09:22:39.780 Germany

09:22:40.780 It's not Germany

09:22:43.720 Hungary? Is it Hungary?

09:22:45.600 I know that

09:22:48.040 What's your guess?

09:22:50.200 I would have thought it was Italy.

09:22:51.660 You're correct, it's Austria.

09:22:52.160 Oh, Austria.

09:22:52.860 Oh, I was thinking of the other Dutch country.

09:22:55.060 Brussels.

09:22:56.940 Greece.

09:22:58.060 Greece, okay.

09:22:59.120 England.

09:22:59.800 England.

09:23:00.400 England.

09:23:02.800 England.

09:23:04.920 Put that hand.

09:23:07.380 Party, party.

09:23:08.340 Rave, rave.

09:23:09.040 Sorry, I love this thing.

09:23:10.780 Okay.

09:23:13.180 Brussels.

09:23:13.860 England.

09:23:14.460 France.

09:23:14.980 Copenhagen.

09:23:16.580 Oh, Copenhagen.

09:23:17.900 Denmark.

09:23:18.340 Yeah, Denmark.

09:23:19.260 No, it is Denmark.

09:23:19.780 i knew that i knew that i i always butcher prague prague my summer home in prague yeah

09:23:26.280 russia russia munich um that's germany yeah helsinki oh what the heck um that sounds vampirial

09:23:35.020 uh romania helsinki is that it's russia helsinki no it's not helsinki is that sweden

09:23:43.180 Is it the Netherlands?

09:23:44.620 Or the Sweden?

09:23:45.540 Helsinki?

09:23:46.160 It's Netherlands or Sweden?

09:23:47.500 I don't know.

09:23:47.960 I'm pretty sure it's Finland.

09:23:50.120 Well, you don't know?

09:23:50.840 Finland.

09:23:51.740 I was close.

09:23:52.820 We knew that.

09:23:54.120 Oh, okay.

09:23:54.720 Berlin.

09:23:55.680 Oh, Germany.

09:23:56.860 Athens.

09:23:57.700 Greece.

09:23:58.240 Bali.

09:23:59.880 Oh, that's in Asia.

09:24:01.520 Indonesia.

09:24:03.160 Well done.

09:24:04.080 Oh, nice.

09:24:04.400 Istanbul.

09:24:06.020 Turkey.

09:24:06.980 Budapest.

09:24:08.180 Nepal.

09:24:09.300 Dublin.

09:24:10.360 Ireland.

09:24:11.160 Milan.

09:24:12.100 Milan is in Italy.

09:24:13.640 Manila.

09:24:14.760 Manila?

09:24:15.500 Manila.

09:24:16.460 The thriller in Manila.

09:24:18.180 Manila.

09:24:19.300 Manila.

09:24:21.220 I don't know.

09:24:22.680 Oh, shit.

09:24:24.200 Okay, she got a little brain on her shit.

09:24:26.620 Okay.

09:24:27.060 Amsterdam.

09:24:28.080 Oh, I like this one.

09:24:30.020 Wait, what is that?

09:24:31.180 I don't know where that is.

09:24:32.460 It's not in Amsterdam?

09:24:33.580 Red Light District?

09:24:34.700 Denmark?

09:24:34.920 Denmark?

09:24:35.220 Oh, okay.

09:24:35.800 Denmark?

09:24:36.460 Amsterdam?

09:24:37.000 Okay.

09:24:38.140 Amsterdam?

09:24:38.500 amsterdam netherlands no it's not in the netherlands no no where's it amsterdam

09:24:45.620 germany amsterdam amsterdam no it's not in germany is it belgium or germany

09:24:48.680 mom like mom i'm so tired is it netherlands mom it is in netherlands really you are correct

09:24:54.500 well done yay oslo oh oh i don't know this one oslo isn't that is that isn't that in

09:25:01.380 germany norway oslo norway it's norway it is norway you are correct warsaw oh no i don't

09:25:07.500 another one. Warsaw. Poland.

09:25:09.760 Poland. No. You are correct.

09:25:11.260 Poland. Let me point to you, though. Lisbon.

09:25:14.980 Not lesbian.

09:25:16.060 Is that in Germany?

09:25:17.660 Lisbon.

09:25:19.060 Not Germany? France. Lisbon.

09:25:21.740 Wait. Lisbon. No, this is

09:25:23.460 Spain. Lisbon. Lisbon. I don't know what

09:25:25.400 Lisbon is. I'll give you a hint. It's near

09:25:27.420 Spain. Portugal.

09:25:29.780 Too easy of a hint.

09:25:31.260 Moscow.

09:25:33.300 Moscow. Russia. Madrid.

09:25:35.040 you don't know where madrid is it's spain oh no i don't know london where's london in in

09:25:43.840 great britain england stockholm germany syndrome stockholm stockholm stockholm syndrome oh wait

09:25:53.060 is that sweden yeah sorry it is sweden yeah we're getting tired please please i don't know this

09:25:59.920 What language do people speak in Mexico?

09:26:08.660 I already did that.

09:26:09.220 If you pass the person in second place, what place are you in?

09:26:13.920 You're in second place.

09:26:15.480 First place?

09:26:16.060 Second.

09:26:17.180 Oh, smart.

09:26:17.840 Okay.

09:26:18.600 Where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?

09:26:21.480 Hawaii.

09:26:22.220 Oh, Pearl Harbor.

09:26:23.780 Yeah, it was Pearl Harbor.

09:26:24.900 A farmer has 17 sheep, all but nine die.

09:26:27.900 How many are left?

09:26:29.560 Has 17 sheep all but nine died?

09:26:31.760 Nine.

09:26:33.120 Smart, smart, smart.

09:26:35.220 The hand, this hand is cracking the ass.

09:26:37.200 What country is the Eiffel Tower in?

09:26:40.500 Depends on the France.

09:26:41.900 Who's done in Eiffel?

09:26:42.840 Maybe who's done?

09:26:43.780 Well, never mind.

09:26:44.420 No, no, no.

09:26:45.560 What currency?

09:26:46.660 We'll skip those.

09:26:48.080 Before Mount Everest was discovered, what was the tallest mountain in the world?

09:26:52.000 Mount Everest.

09:26:52.300 It was still Mount Everest.

09:26:53.640 Damn, she's smart.

09:26:54.260 Mount Everest.

09:26:54.900 Damn, she's smart.

09:26:55.600 Get this girl in acute.

09:26:57.220 wait what's your iq uh i mean i took one of these online tests it's like

09:27:04.240 norway mensa test i did it like 4 a.m on an ipad and i was tired in my bed about to go to sleep

09:27:11.120 i got 126 that's good it was either 126 or 124 that's good yeah what country did the vietnam

09:27:19.060 war happen in um in uh vietnam are you sure yeah okay how much is a quarter of an hour

09:27:26.820 how much is a quarter of an hour is 15 minutes 34 plus 66 that's actually 110

09:27:33.600 34 plus 64 34 plus 66 i don't know

09:27:39.340 34 plus 66 i just answered she got it 110 110 i said that that's what she said 110 i said 110

09:27:51.320 Is it 110, Chase?

09:27:52.380 I promise.

09:27:53.120 Chase, is it 110?

09:27:53.680 It's 110.

09:27:54.400 It's 100.

09:27:54.920 Yes.

09:27:55.320 It's 100.

09:27:56.240 Who's the current U.S. president, Chase?

09:27:58.520 Old Donnie boy.

09:27:59.720 Do you love Donald Trump?

09:28:00.980 I like Melania.

09:28:02.920 She's a body man.

09:28:04.160 Lesbians were a president.

09:28:05.520 No, I think that she's funny.

09:28:09.620 Okay.

09:28:11.480 What is 100 minus 66, Chase?

09:28:14.100 44.

09:28:18.260 Okay.

09:28:19.020 Who was the U.S. president before Trump?

09:28:21.320 Oh, it was our Joe Byron.

09:28:24.100 Sleepy Joe.

09:28:25.420 100 minus 34.

09:28:27.840 100 minus 34 is 66.

09:28:30.640 What is 77 plus 33?

09:28:35.060 77 plus 33 is 110 again.

09:28:37.240 Again, yeah, you're right.

09:28:39.020 66 plus 44.

09:28:44.180 110.

09:28:45.580 It is 110, yes.

09:28:46.880 If you were born 10 years ago, how old would you be today?

09:28:50.320 If I was born 10 years ago, how old would I be today?

09:28:53.360 Yeah, if you're born, because you're 40, 45.

09:28:56.980 Stop, he's rage reading.

09:28:58.320 Mom, come on.

09:28:58.920 He's rage reading.

09:28:59.720 Mom, I was going to ask you this.

09:29:01.580 No, but if you were born 10 years ago, you got a fact.

09:29:03.560 If I was born 10 years ago, I'd be 10.

09:29:06.960 That's what you said.

09:29:07.780 That's what you said.

09:29:08.520 You was rage reading.

09:29:11.280 Everyone's going to answer this one.

09:29:12.380 How many world wars were there?

09:29:14.080 Two.

09:29:15.040 Two.

09:29:15.840 Two.

09:29:16.180 Well, two.

09:29:16.780 Two.

09:29:17.160 Two, we all know that.

09:29:17.880 Now, what decade, so when I ask what decade, I mean, I want 1810s, 1930s, 1750s.

09:29:26.760 What decade was World War I, starting with you?

09:29:29.180 You go first.

09:29:31.040 I believe that was the 1910s.

09:29:33.940 Okay.

09:29:35.020 30s.

09:29:35.640 1930s.

09:29:36.300 World War I?

09:29:36.800 World War I.

09:29:37.560 1918, 1914, 1918.

09:29:40.040 That's right.

09:29:40.380 It was 1914, 1918.

09:29:41.140 1910s.

09:29:42.380 1910s.

09:29:42.960 What was the primary decade of World War II?

09:29:46.860 1930s.

09:29:47.380 1930s.

09:29:48.340 30s?

09:29:49.320 No, that was the 1930s.

09:29:50.580 The 40s.

09:29:51.500 40s.

09:29:52.100 Oh.

09:29:52.720 1938.

09:29:54.140 Well, 1939 to 45.

09:29:55.520 Yeah, 49, yeah.

09:29:55.800 40s.

09:29:56.140 Probably mostly in the 40s.

09:29:57.520 10s and 40s.

09:29:57.980 That's true.

09:29:58.300 Can any of you name three Kardashians we accept Jenners?

09:30:02.620 No.

09:30:03.280 Kendall, Kylie, Kim, Kourtney.

09:30:06.220 Keep going.

09:30:06.800 Rob.

09:30:07.320 Yep.

09:30:07.600 Caitlyn?

09:30:08.120 Caitlyn.

09:30:08.940 I don't know if she counts.

09:30:10.200 I mean, she's a Jenner.

09:30:12.260 Does size matter?

09:30:14.960 It can be too big.

09:30:16.100 What do you mean?

09:30:16.560 Yeah.

09:30:16.720 It can be way too big.

09:30:18.160 What do we don't want?

09:30:18.680 Okay, that was the final question.

09:30:20.820 That was fun.

09:30:21.700 That was actually fun.

09:30:22.480 Any final thoughts from anybody before I wrap this?

09:30:24.780 How long did that take?

09:30:25.840 I think it was like 20, 30 minutes.

09:30:27.500 I did it pretty quick.

09:30:28.220 That was actually really enjoyable.

09:30:30.040 I'm glad we did it.

09:30:30.760 This was great.

09:30:31.940 All right.

09:30:33.020 Could I pray?

09:30:35.340 How long does it take?

09:30:36.300 30 seconds.

09:30:36.900 Like 20 seconds.

09:30:37.260 Okay, go for it.

09:30:37.680 Okay, Lord, I just thank you so much for choosing all of us to be on the podcast, Lord, for the 25th of this month, Lord.

09:30:43.000 And we just thank you for all of our conversations tonight.

09:30:45.320 God, I ask that you continue to reveal your love to every single person that was in this room tonight,

09:30:49.740 especially Brian, Lord.

09:30:51.200 Continue to draw him close to your heart.

09:30:52.660 Bless him and his hard work, the team's hard work, and bless this podcast.

09:30:55.800 In your name, Jesus, I pray.

09:30:56.720 Amen.

09:30:57.260 Amen.

09:30:58.360 All right.

09:30:59.380 Sounds good.

09:31:08.420 Where's the hand?

09:31:10.380 All right.

09:31:10.880 I want to say GG.

09:31:12.660 Well played.

09:31:13.580 Thank you guys for coming.

09:31:14.540 We really appreciate you guys.

09:31:15.480 Thank you for making this to the end.

09:31:16.880 We lost four people.

09:31:19.520 We lost a lot of good men.

09:31:21.240 This was actually really fun.

09:31:23.140 I loved having you guys.

09:31:24.660 Sure.

09:31:25.040 We could do.

09:31:25.860 We always have people come back.

09:31:27.120 She's been on three times.

09:31:28.440 Sweet.

09:31:28.640 We'd love to come back.

09:31:29.340 We'll run back again.

09:31:30.620 I'm moving to L.A.

09:31:32.040 Tomorrow I have to go and look at a house, so hopefully I can make it.

09:31:36.680 It's a 10 a.m. appointment.

09:31:39.920 Cancel it.

09:31:40.820 No.

09:31:41.500 I want to see.

09:31:42.100 guys if you enjoyed the stream like the video

09:31:44.640 Dave thank you for the super chat here at the end

09:31:46.300 appreciate it guys leave a nice comment

09:31:48.400 once the live ends helps the algorithm thank you for

09:31:50.380 tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere

09:31:52.080 in the world but you're here with me

09:31:54.540 I appreciate that

09:31:56.400 thank you to everyone who super chats donates and

09:31:58.420 supports the show we're going to be live again

09:32:00.520 Sunday 5pm Pacific got a great show

09:32:02.580 lined up for next week any girls who

09:32:04.520 want to be on the show you can DM at

09:32:06.360 whatever on Instagram

09:32:08.260 if you can make it to Santa

09:32:10.360 To Barbara, 07s in the chat.

09:32:14.540 07s in the chat.

09:32:17.700 I'm just trying to think if there was...

09:32:20.820 Is there anything we're forgetting, Tiffany?

09:32:23.900 I think we're forgetting...

09:32:28.400 Tiffany's a rock star, by the way.

09:32:30.080 Yeah, she stopped.

09:32:31.160 Girl, you keep going.

09:32:32.980 Makeup.

09:32:34.480 That's too late at this point.

09:32:36.900 All right, guys.

09:32:37.680 07s in the chat.

09:32:38.480 hope you guys have a good night

09:32:41.540 and see you next Sunday

09:32:43.140 good night guys

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