$2,000,000⧸year MINIMUM To Date Single Mom?! DEBATE: Do Women Deserve Chivalry? HEATED ARGUMENT w⧸ INSANE Lindsay Clancy Supporters?! | Dating Talk 317
00:57:52.080Yes, in that component, but escorts...
00:57:55.100Because they always tell you it starts out this much, and then you can get tipped more.
00:57:59.300But the escorts will frame it like the legal loophole is, well, I'm just going to meet this person to spend time with them, not to have sex with them.
00:58:08.260if sex happens that's beyond like i know girls that do massages and the massage is 150 but if
00:58:16.640they want extra now they have to get tipped out word um okay be so well the thing is also1.00
00:58:24.700women who are prostitutes or who do escorting when coming on the whatever podcast probably1.00
00:58:32.440wouldn't admit to it so like I mean you're very sex worker adjacent I mean even if we were to I0.98
00:58:39.320asked you point blank like have you ever had sex with any of these guys you said no I don't know1.00
00:58:44.900bro no look I'm not trying to call you a liar or whatever I mean I think you've fucked some of1.00
00:58:49.820these guys no no judgment um some judgment I mean I married two of my customers when I was a dancer1.00
00:58:56.840so but you what do you mean you married two of your customers yeah i met both my ex-husbands
00:59:02.920at work quite okay oh this is when you used to be a stripper yeah okay so you used to date men when
00:59:09.320you were a stripper correct like the clients i did not really but they that sort of just happened
00:59:17.220okay but so how many of your stripper clients did you date in total so there were two husbands
00:59:24.520How many boyfriends I've met in the club?
00:59:27.780Boyfriends, short-term flings, how many of them did you meet in the strip club?
01:38:44.920At least, uh, at least she's honest.0.56
01:38:47.020I mean, probably a lot of women think like you, but they don't say it.
01:38:52.320And I mean, we came on the podcast to be honest, right?
01:38:55.700Well, we certainly appreciate honesty.
01:38:57.400So thank you for being, uh, honest and upfront.
01:39:00.120You know what? I actually remembered what I was going to do for my intro thing that's not related.
01:39:07.600So do you guys know how in many industries, like in the medical field, emergency field, industrial field, space travel field, there's occupational exposure limits, OELs.
01:39:24.320So these are like legal limits that are often enforced by OSHA, for example.
01:39:28.660So they're meant to protect workers from harmful thresholds of either chemicals, radiation, sometimes even noise, because you could get like hearing damage, tinnitus.
01:39:41.440I think sometimes people who do commercial diving, deep sea diving, there is some limitations on that.
01:39:48.180I don't know if it's necessarily over a lifetime, but there are limitations when it comes to diving because I guess nitrogen buildup, I don't know the exact details.
01:39:57.640There's like asbestos abatement, demolition work, countertop fabricator, stonemasons.
01:40:06.340You get crystalline silica dust, refinery and chemical plants.
01:40:10.960You get volatile organic compounds, VOCs.
01:40:14.080There's radiation and nuclear hazards.
01:40:17.220You got to carry around a dosimeter, I think it's called, and they cap it at five REM per year by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
01:40:24.860So that's going to be radiology techs, cardiologists, if you're working in the nuclear power plant, commercial airline pilots and astronauts.
01:40:34.540I think after having done this podcast for four years, I, as the whatever podcast host, I think I'm nearly reaching my limit.
01:40:47.820I'm reaching my, I don't want to come off sexist.
02:03:00.900You can, but I was very young, and I just kind of let it go, and then I met my second husband not long after, and he was really insistent on me getting rid of it, so I just did a DIY divorce, and that was it.
02:03:20.200So your first marriage lasted, well, your first marriage was the crazy same-day Vegas marriage, is that correct?
02:15:35.140and then you're taking you got lockers1.00
02:15:38.640at the strip club you're putting your fucking your little binder into the the lockers at the1.00
02:15:43.060strip club you got some shit like this some homes don't have a dad but i'm still cracking that whip1.00
02:15:46.700my daughter no my parents my parents would totally lock me up i will never leave the house ever again0.99
02:15:52.980for sure like it was different in chicago and all the russian kids i hung out with none of us really
02:15:58.200had a lot of rules like our parents didn't really supervise us i come home too but how did that
02:16:04.920happened you stay hold on just hold on wait wait stop stop stop really quick not a lot of rules
02:16:09.980okay you stay out past curfew oh no you came home at 11 p.m. instead of 10 p.m. and you got until
02:16:16.520you you went wandering around town with your friends and and i don't know you jaywalked or0.98
02:16:22.000some shit stripping can i ask you was your mom no judgment yeah but was your mom maybe like a0.99
02:16:29.140sex worker no she was a hairstylist her whole life but also her what her girlfriend's daughter1.00
02:16:36.060became a dominatrix we we were close in age it was just kind of like yeah she just kind of like0.86
02:16:42.080didn't see it as that bad because but look now that you're a mom do you have daughters or you
02:16:48.800just have sons i have well i have three daughters and i have two sons but i don't want them to dance
02:16:54.300would you be okay with them and because you're still kind of like in it right like a color i
02:16:59.740don't know what a color is but it kind of falls into the same category in the same way that she
02:17:04.780didn't tell her parents that she was being a stripper she hasn't told any of us that she's1.00
02:17:14.040fucking the the cuddle cuddle dudes maybe she's come on no hey we're gonna give her the better1.00
02:17:19.780i'll give you 500 extra bucks if you suck it no i'll give you 500 more if that's not enough1.00
02:17:27.580that's gross yeah really what if it smells bro girls aren't sucking dick for 500 come on1.00
02:17:34.700i think it depends on your standards i think that if you've never been a mom of 45 to be put that1.00
02:17:41.160bruh okay 500 look all right maybe a thousand not even a thousand so hold on now question
02:17:50.400your first husband did he know you had a history in sex work like he met did he meet you at the
02:17:56.980club yeah he met me at spearmint rhino spearmint rhino oh okay we got one in vegas we got one in
02:18:02.440san marino that's the hood in new york city uh no in las vegas my ex used to work there
02:18:10.780okay so a girl um okay so he but you said the child support declined after like it reduced
02:18:21.420i actually know because i wanted more freedom because i was um i couldn't see my family so i
02:18:27.880wanted to come back to vegas more often because i was so far away from them um so we switched to 60
02:18:33.80040 and then agreed that after time we're gonna it's because like legally he didn't have to pay
02:18:39.660child support because I had the child less because I gave him more time so I could get more time with
02:18:46.100my family because I was going back to work. So there's, there's a period where he stopped paying
02:18:50.880child support. Yeah. Well, it also didn't make a lot of sense because the alimony ends and then
02:18:56.580the child support would have been 3,500 and I needed to work. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
02:19:04.000wait how much let's how much was the alimony per month it was i got seven thousand a month
02:19:11.140wait wait seven thousand a month for three years okay yes yeah no i'm just asking sorry sometimes
02:19:18.280i'm expressive and it's not like i'm it's not necessarily i'm like doing a judgment i'm just
02:19:24.140being expressive for entertainment purposes um okay seven thousand a month in alimony for for
02:19:31.280three years yeah okay and then then on top of that there was child support too which you said
02:19:38.860was 3,500 the alimony was 3,500 child support was 3,500 okay so and then it decreases I see so
02:19:45.740child support plus alimony for three years was 7,000 after three years reduced by 3,500 so then
02:19:54.520you're just left with the child support which was 3,500 which was my rent in New York
02:19:59.080by the way this is you 2007 2000 that was in 2009 like moved into that just to be clear
02:20:09.740and then 2012 yeah like my rent just went from 3200 to 3500 by the way now those seven thousand
02:20:19.380dollars took you way further in 2009 2010 early early 2010s to mid-2010s um than today but
02:20:31.220i'm just curious how how many bedrooms was your place i always had two bedroom apartments0.87
02:20:37.160okay so like one for your kid one for you okay i guess can i just ask fucking new york something0.96
02:20:43.820like you said that you switched to 60 40 with your ex-husband or whatever yeah because you0.96
02:20:52.360wanted to see your family more often but isn't your kid your family as well why would you put
02:20:57.900your family on top of priority of being a mom because he had school and priorities in new york
02:21:05.900and i couldn't leave so we had to change the schedule around so i could be able to take a
02:21:10.120break and see my family because otherwise i was only limited no no at that time she had one i only
02:21:15.820had one time she had but we also had a we had a nanny and i had really great in-laws so like we
02:21:21.640were all parenting him it wasn't just me and it was much easier for me to travel that way and i
02:21:28.300couldn't travel with him because he wanted a life no i mean i totally get that i wouldn't want to
02:21:34.260pull them out of school I'm not I'm not being judgmental whatever but in my vision if I ever
02:21:39.840have a kid that's my top priority and doesn't mean that I won't have a life well like okay
02:21:44.880right now I have 50 50 legally in Vegas that's the typical split like I get one week with my kids
02:21:51.800then my ex-husband gets one week then I get one week and then whatever no that's my three
02:21:57.620okay so let's let's talk about the others so um just to be clear though um he he did continue
02:22:05.000paying the 3500 in child support so yeah child support is typically due for the entire you know
02:22:11.14018 years basically unless you change but so what was it reduced down to or was it nothing i i let
02:22:18.920him i i off the hook yeah after about three years yeah okay so and then you said there was a big
02:22:26.420settlement? Well, I mean, we had a settlement. He gave me a lump sum. How much was the lump sum?
02:22:36.560It was, better not say. Come on, give us, I mean, look, you're a range. Hold on, but like, so you told us that you're a professional cuddler,
03:00:09.460So you would, in the event that he was interested in you or whatever, you would give him a different level of treatment than you would give a normal guy who would date you.
03:00:22.200Does he have to wait until the third date, or does he get to hit right away?
03:12:48.520hmm if a millionaire stepped to me i might want to keep my 35k a year job that's not the point
03:12:55.960the point is that i know myself and i know that i'm not the kind of person who could just stay at
03:13:00.900home and not do anything so the man is not open our business and i could take care of that business
03:13:05.840he's like he wants how many kids do you want two you want two kids that's going to take up your
03:13:11.340time sure take care of the kids aren't there people who have cook clean i mean he's a millionaire
03:13:16.740can we have like a maid or cleaner or whatever i'm not gonna have a maid but look at it on your
03:13:22.120own like it depends where you live i make that in a month and i would quit that uh because uh
03:13:28.360you know what once you start getting once you start throwing away money like that when you can0.53
03:13:31.920just be like hmm i have i have my wife who can do like some tidying every every day do 30 minutes0.99
03:13:39.460of tidying up every day instead of hiring a cleaner and then also like hiring have to work0.97
03:13:44.880a stranger to come into your house while i'm having but that's what i'm saying but you said0.98
03:13:49.1403500 a year 35 000 a year is like girl we need to compare that life and and minimal wages and
03:13:57.540median wages in europe are 35 000 a year it's very good in portugal for my age a year yeah
03:14:04.600okay minimal you meet a guy say you you you say you travel to los angeles all the time
03:14:12.300You meet a guy in Los Angeles, he makes a million dollars a year, whatever, okay, you're making money in Portugal, who cares, he's like, yeah, you're coming here, you're going to get married here, you're going to get a, you'll get your green card through me, we're going to have two kids, you're not going to work anymore, it's over.
03:14:28.840I would still want to do something.1.00
03:14:31.160Oh my god, bro, this is, this is the feminism, this is the feminism brain rot.1.00
03:14:37.300A woman, women don't want to give up their 35K a year job for a millionaire.1.00
03:14:44.260Enough money where your entire lifestyle changes.1.00
03:16:02.940It's the traditional thing, and you were saying how, well, the man's the head of the household, but it's like, well, how am I the head of the household if I'm a millionaire and I make a determination that the best thing for the relationship between me and my wife and for our kids is not for my wife, who makes fucking nothing, to go get some stupid job and work eight hours a day.0.97
03:16:25.080It's actually better if she takes care of the house and then takes care of the kids.0.98
03:16:29.680especially look i still think it's bullshit even when the kids are old enough like and i'm talking0.98
03:16:36.260i guess after breastfeeding you can maybe make an argument or at least um until the kids are in0.82
03:16:42.440uh school which i guess is probably around five is when they start going to school or whatever
03:16:46.620you're gonna need to take if you want two kids and let's say you have them basically back to
03:16:52.400back one is uh two years apart whatever you're that's seven years off your job well that's what
03:16:59.400you should do anyways you should stay home raise your kids they should not be under the care of
03:17:06.660some minimum wage like you're not going to send your kids to child care daycare when you're
03:17:12.960available the mom and you're not going to send them off like it doesn't make any sense well yeah
03:17:18.480but that's a limited period of time that's not seven years is not a limit it is a limited amount
03:17:22.980you're talking about 35 000 a year where that's barely rent in the usa in the usa but i don't
03:17:28.240She doesn't live in the USA, she lives in Portugal, so she's doing fine in Portugal.
03:17:32.540But the thing is that, okay, seven years?
03:17:35.060It doesn't matter, it's irrelevant, it doesn't matter.
03:17:37.260Seven years, and then I can't go back to work?
03:17:42.160Hold on, the kids need to be brought to school, and they need to be picked up, and then the weekends, and then what about summertime, when there is no school for the kids?
03:17:50.740Okay, then we can do, if he's a millionaire, he can find me a job that will be accountable for all of that.1.00
03:17:57.300You go to Pilates five days a week, you cook, you clean, you fuck, you suck, you take care of the kids.1.00
03:57:31.460Just text her and be like, okay, I'm not going to take you out then.1.00
03:57:35.960Women, first off, let's say a woman has a history.1.00
03:57:39.340Say she's not a sex worker, but she has a history of doing fuck shit, city girl shit, dating multiple dudes.1.00
03:57:47.040Maybe she, you know, not full-blown sex work, but you might consider like sugar daddies or whatever, doing that shit, fucking sense, selling few pics, whatever it is, right?1.00
03:57:55.540or even not but if she was in college she had a party phase she goes out partying and drinking1.00
03:58:02.340and doing drugs all this shit some women are not going to be forthcoming with their past1.00
03:58:07.320a lot of women are not going to tell you about the fuck shit they did when they were in college1.00
03:58:13.680or even when they were in high school some of these girls be doing some degenerate shit1.00
03:58:19.580from a very young age and the guys don't sure there are guys who are doing it too0.96
03:58:24.820my point is why can't we just acknowledge why can't women acknowledge you know what i'm a0.97
03:58:30.200fucking degenerate modern woman why am i gonna hold a guy to some this disney standard of men0.97
03:58:38.140are gonna pay for dates men are gonna pay for dates and men have to be providers and protectors1.00
03:58:43.140and chivalrous and open the car door and do all this shit and who the fuck are you who the fuck1.00
03:58:49.640are you guys you're sex workers or if you're not a sex worker you're promiscuous you did some1.00
03:58:57.480fucking city girl shit you're drinking you're going out partying you want to dress revealing1.00
03:59:02.980you want to be a boss babe you want to be a feminist you have leftist liberal political1.00
03:59:07.600leanings why should men be traditional if it's wrong for men to say women should if it's sexist
03:59:15.400to say to hold women to some sort of gender roles if it's wrong to say you're not gonna work you see1.00
03:59:22.620how much she fought me on that shit you're not a traditional woman go 50 50 on your dits don't1.00
03:59:27.800talk to me about it gives me the ick to go 50 50 you your career you put your career over your1.00
03:59:36.060own family and your own kids i don't have kids i when you do have kids your career would supersede
03:59:44.980i'm saying that whenever i'm in in a phase of of my life marriage whatever i'm just not a
03:59:54.000kind of person that will be sitting at home only doing family stuff that's it that takes up a lot
04:00:00.260of time okay sure but there are people who are working and there are single mothers out there1.00
04:00:04.800who are raising three kids it's it's but they do that out of necessity the single moms have to work0.55
04:00:09.600If you're dealing in the example I gave you earlier1.00
04:00:12.060Not all single moms have to work though1.00
04:00:14.340She had a settlement of half a million1.00
06:44:37.660the evidence that was left out was his text messages which he owned that's the only reason
06:44:42.500why he testified was because his text messages weren't allowed in there and that's huge that's
06:44:47.660just like what was what was in his text messages that's what we have to find out that's why i said0.94
06:44:53.360the evidence would prove wait wait hold on the text messages that you don't know what they fucking0.74
06:44:59.080say would prove he's guilty they never how do you know his text messages will prove he's guilty0.83
06:45:04.300if you don't know what they say why else would he not want his text messages admitted into as
06:45:09.900evidence do you even first off even assuming your claim is true what evidence do you actually have
06:45:16.860he's not on trial you don't have evidence to disprove it that's what i'm saying that's that's
06:45:22.100why i said it wasn't investigated thoroughly you know how many people go into jail no no no you
06:45:27.140know how many people go in jail and then they're proved to be truth for telling the truth they're0.70
06:45:31.420exonerated what the fuck does his text messages have to do with anything you know huge a anyone0.70
06:45:37.620that knows anything in criminal justice investigation why shouldn't you know what um to0.98
06:45:41.660establish lindsay clancy's innocence why shouldn't we look at your text messages who knows what the0.99
06:45:47.300fuck you're hiding i wasn't fucking her i don't have kids with her so who knows you're why aren't0.99
06:45:52.180you revealing your text messages in the lindsay clancy trial that's such a big piece of evidence1.00
06:45:59.320Any mediocre investigator would have put it into evidence.
06:46:07.620Okay, before I address Patrick Clancy's text messages, first off, is that actually true that the investigators didn't have access to some of this stuff?
06:46:35.360So tell me what to Google, tell me what to Google, and we'll see if this is true.
06:46:40.240Was Patrick Clancy's phone database get input as evidence?
06:46:47.880Wait, did Patrick Clancy make a deal with the prosecution that his text messages would not be used as evidence if he testified?
06:47:05.100No, Patrick Clancy did not make a deal with the prosecution to keep his text messages or phone records hidden in exchange for his testimony.
06:48:12.300Bro, she and her defense attorney, in order to do not guilty by reason of insanity, you have to stipulate that you committed the crime, but you're not guilty.
06:48:22.740You're not criminally responsible because you were insane.
06:48:26.920Okay, but when they returned to court, what did the lawyer say?
06:51:03.840her own her own report to the police is extremely exculpatory for the men she's saying how much she0.97
06:51:14.540loved the guy who allegedly raped her she was gonna go she got gang raped and then three weeks
06:51:21.380later she's got she was excited to go back to the same frat house where she was gang raped where she0.83
06:51:27.120was going to go to a halloween party it's only after they disinvited her to the halloween party
06:51:31.960then the rape accusations manifest on one hand we have three bodies a murder case is very
06:51:42.340different with murder you have a body you have dead you have bodies you have forensic evidence
06:51:48.420lindsey clancy i don't know i think she's innocent there's three dead bodies there's
06:51:55.260three dead bodies doesn't but there isn't enough evidence you've ever watched overwhelming evidence0.91
06:52:00.700Have you ever watched that Netflix series where there's this lady, she does pharmaceutical drugs and she does the forensics and she ends up doing all the drugs and then legally puts people in jail and, you know, writes all these fake things and she's doing all the drugs and she works for the state and then they had to overturn a lot of people.0.98
06:52:23.060I just think there's a small percentage of certain people in certain circumstances where things aren't done properly and some people get away with things or almost get away with things sometimes.
06:52:35.040You're talking about drug possession and drug distribution cases.
07:53:20.180But, yeah, I don't think if a guy has a high body count, I do not think it's at all wrong for him to date a woman with a low body count just because there's asymmetry in what men and women find attractive.
07:53:36.640I don't believe you need to – the simplest way I would explain it is I don't believe someone needs to possess a trait to desire the trait in the other person.
07:53:46.160so for example i bet every woman here assuming like well let's not let's not talk about the
07:53:53.460women here let's not talk about you guys can i can women women are attracted to rich men0.77
07:53:57.740but they're they may not be rich themselves it's not wrong for a woman who isn't rich
07:54:05.660to find a rich man attractive that's okay i think that's totally fine go ahead uh i think for me