HEATED DEBATE! She INSULTS Brian？! MAJOR DISAGREEMENTS! Woke Liberal Girls ANGRY？! ｜ Dating Talk 278
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9 hours and 5 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we introduce ourselves and talk about what we do on the side of being a dog groomer and onlyfans. We also talk about our college experiences and what we learned from them.
Transcript
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating
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We're going to just jump right in and have the guests introduce themselves.
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I am from South Georgia, and I am a full-time dog groomer, and I do OnlyFans on the side.
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I am halfway through my business degree at VSU.
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Do you have your grandpa's birthday anywhere, or?
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I'm from Michigan, and I'm in nursing school right now, freshman.
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And I just have a basic, like, frozen yogurt shop job, and I work at a dress store.
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I do full-time OnlyFans, and I do have an associate's degree.
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I did do it for a little bit, but it's not the right time to pursue that.
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Is this the first guest we've had from Alabama?
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And you said, sorry, you're studying, what is it again?
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Are you on the quarter, or the semester system?
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But you've already finished your first semester?
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Normally, don't people start up in the fall or whatever?
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You took a general psychology class just like a month ago, basically?
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Give me, what was your one big takeaway from that class?
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Well, I mean, not everything you learned, but what's like one of the biggest takeaways
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But you just, I mean, it was just like a month ago, right?
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Not, like, did you have to write an essay at the end?
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Is there anything you remember from that class that you could relate to us that might be
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And when you say you do porn, like, you do, like, there's a production company, and
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And I've been doing OnlyFans for two years and DJ for many years.
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I'm 19 years old, and right now I'm at a community college, and I'm studying in marketing
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management, and I'm trying to go for my associates.
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One big takeaway from college this past semester, or quarter, or whatever?
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Probably just, like, with, like, learning everything and, like, the marketing and, like,
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But, like, I know that you were studying marketing, but if there was one principle that you learned,
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Oh, I just, like, started, like, my marketing class, like, last week.
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No, but you were just in, you were taking some classes.
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I took English, I took communications, and that's it for my first one.
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What's the one big takeaway from your comm class?
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Um, for, like, the communication class, we just basically, like, did it.
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It was, like, there was a demonstration speech that we had to do, and that was, like...
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But is there, like, a academic communication concept that you could relay to us that you learned?
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I'm based out of Dallas, Texas, for commercial modeling and acting.
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This is my full-time career is commercial modeling and acting.
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I started about two years ago, but I live in Kansas, and right now I'm taking care of
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a family that is going through cancer treatments, and my family comes first, no matter what,
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and I will never stand on any other front besides that as my family comes first.
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And, uh, did you say, like, education or anything?
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So, I'm about to start my mechanical engineering degree, actually, in about two weeks for WSU.
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I'm from Penza, Russia, but I currently live in Philadelphia, and I'm a student studying for
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Uh, before we get into the relationship, uh, relationship segment, uh, we have a, we
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Going around the table, what's your relationship status?
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I am, it's actually complicated, but I am actually single and it's been probably four
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months, but I do still live with my ex-girlfriend.
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Let me just, I need to adjust your microphone a little bit.
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In your notes, I thought you had indicated that you had dated men.
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So in the past, ever since you came out, you have not dated or slept with any men?
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And you currently live with your somewhat complicated, not really girlfriend, but kind
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As far as lesbians can have intercourse, I guess.
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But so you broke up, but you guys are still having sex.
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So you guys are sleeping with other people then, or...?
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So what has actually changed since you broke up four months ago?
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So if you were to go have a rendezvous with a lovely lady here in California, she would
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Um, I feel that she would have a problem, but technically, she cannot be.
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She goes down to Atlanta and gets herself a hood rat.
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She actually, she's been looking forward to this trip of yours, because she was going
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I guess that she has full right, seeing as we are broken up.
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So, was the doing the OnlyFans, did that have anything to do with the breakup?
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Wait, did you start it right after you broke up with your boyfriend?
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Did he know you were going to start an OnlyFans?
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But you guys had already broken up by the time you started it.
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Like, you wanted to start the OnlyFans, and then were you guys arguing?
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Like, he will help me do my social media or something like that.
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Okay, he doesn't take the nude photos, but he'll take the, you doing like dance.
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Uh, it's a blessing to be single or it's a blessing to be broken up from your ex-boyfriend?
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Kind of both, but mostly to be broken up with my ex-boyfriend.
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Uh, had you guys ever been on again, off again?
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Because it got to a point where I really just was, like, sick of him.
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It was just, like, the roles kind of almost swapped.
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Like, he would break up with me all the time because he didn't want to, like, be with me.
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But then towards the end of our, like, two-year relationship, he kind of was, like, set on, like, being with me forever.
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And I was kind of, like, set on, like, I don't want to be with him anymore.
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And in the nine months you've been single, are there, well, I'll ask this.
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I mean, there's a couple, like, like, like a couple guys that, like, I flirt with here and there.
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Like, some guys that I think, like, are, like, good people that, like, I would think about dating.
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Like, I'm not talking or, like, dating anyone right now.
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But are there guys, like, when's the last time you hung out with a guy or went on a date?
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Was it the first date, second date, third date?
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What did you guys, and when you say you went on a date, like, did you just go over to his place
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We went to this hot pot place in Frankenmuth and we just went out to dinner.
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And in the nine months, though, has there been any guys you've seen?
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Like, for a month, two months, a few weeks, anything like that?
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Maybe one, but it's more just like a kind of like a friendship.
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That's like if I wished you Merry Christmas right now, what you just did.
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If it was July, I think you could get away with in September.
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But actually, you said it would be the same as Christmas.
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If I was to wish you Merry Christmas, as in Christmas 2026, it's too soon for me to say that.
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So your statement is a bit peculiar, is what I'm trying to say.
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Well, now you'll know in September, you can wish me a happy anniversary.
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Like, you might as well say, in fucking 2030, we will be...
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I mean, I wasn't begging him, like, come on, let's marry me.
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So you've been single for five years, basically?
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Have you ever felt a romantic or sexual attraction to a man?
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Well, at some point when you do start dating, do you, uh...
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Like, if you were to download a dating app, would you want to be swiping on both men and women?
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When you first met him, had you already been involved in sex work?
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Back then, during the lockdown, so all the clubs in Singapore closed down.
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I'm single, and I've been single my whole entire life.
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Never had a boyfriend or nothing, like, uh, situationship or anything?
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Um, I never had a situationship, but I have talked to a few guys here and there, but it's
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just, like, never, like, anything serious yet, because I want to find, like, the right
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What's the longest period of time you have seen anybody or somebody?
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Uh, before I get to you, really quick, going back to you, uh, are you also Christian?
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What makes you just feel so special about yourself?
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What makes you feel special about yourself when you're in the presence of another person?
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What makes you feel special about yourself when you're in the presence of another person?
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It's a real thing because you have to love yourself first.
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And you have to be able to understand yourself before you can love another person.
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And I feel like you're in that area of your life where you truly need to love yourself.
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You need to find those areas about yourself that excites you.
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In order for you to love anybody else, you've got to love yourself.
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What makes you feel special about yourself in the presence of other people?
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When I'm in the presence of another person and they give me a card.
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When I'm in the presence of this other person, I feel special because they gave me a card
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saying that I am special in this way or another.
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That makes me feel special when I'm in the presence of another person.
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The reason was because we didn't want the same things.
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I want to raise good children to put a great impression on this world.
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I'm in a relationship for five years, and it's my longest one.
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So, we're going to just dive right into the very first topic.
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And I want to start with something a little bit controversial, a little bit heated.
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Some of you had pretty strong disagreements with me.
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Let me pull up my notes here and prompt somebody on this.
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I noticed you had a Christian cross emoji in your Instagram bio.
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That's not at all related to that, but I just noticed that.
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Putting that in my notes there, maybe we'll talk about that.
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Well, I think really quick, the first thing I noticed on your Instagram.
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Can you tell me, uh, from a Catholic perspective, from a Christian perspective, uh, is that allowed?
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You're supposed to love everybody the way Christ does.
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Yeah, I'm not sure what that has to do with the discussion at hand, but, um...
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Doesn't it go against Christianity to be in a same-sex relationship?
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Like, what are some situations in which you would choose your human instinct over God's word?
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Well, like, anything that's biblical, anything that's, uh...
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So, what would you do in a situation where you're conflicted?
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Uh, should I follow God's word or should I follow my human nature?
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Um, I also noticed on your Instagram you do, uh...
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Yeah, well, that was at a concert, so it's allowed.
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So, so if the artist was wearing an anti-God statement on their shirt...
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Right, so then your argument just goes completely out the door.
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If the artist wears it, it's okay for me to wear it.
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I think when it comes to Christians, and Catholics seem to be the more serious branch.
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One of the more serious branches of Christianity.
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For example, if somebody eats meat, I don't care.
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But if somebody tells me they're vegan or vegetarian, and I see them eating a hot dog
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or a hamburger, I have no problem with people eating hot dogs and hamburgers.
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But if you're a vegan or vegetarian eating a hot dog and a hamburger, I'm like, wait, hold
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That you should follow, like, the rules of what you want to be, like, how you label yourself
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Well, I remember you saying you didn't like labels.
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Because you said it depends on how you label yourself, but it doesn't seem like you like
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Um, if you were, uh, if I were to present to you a Bible verse that instructed, uh, Christians
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to dress modestly, knowing this, perhaps you didn't know it in the past, would you make
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a commitment here on the Whatever Podcast to adhere to biblical scripture, Christian doctrine,
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Um, I mean, I'm sure, like, God wouldn't really mind what you wear, as long as you, like, love
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Like, if you go to church in, like, underwear, like, God wouldn't mind that?
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If you go to church in underwear, God wouldn't mind that?
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Uh, I mean, you shouldn't dress like that there.
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You shouldn't do the same thing in your everyday life?
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It's your life, and it's however you want to run it.
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I mean, every day that I dress modestly, I feel much better about myself when I'm walking
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down the street because I don't have weird old men staring at me provocatively because
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I'd rather walk down the street, everything is concealed, opposed to have some weirdo staring
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You know, being a Christian, we're supposed to observe that within ourselves and give
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So, uh, 1 Timothy 2.9, uh, women adorn themselves in modest apparel.
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Okay, so given that, well, I guess let me ask you this, um, do you believe the Bible is the
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So, rejecting clear commands is disagreement with God.
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Okay, so, so, okay, would you, are you going to continue to address him modestly?
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Um, I mean, it's my life, I can do what I want.
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If you love, if you love me, keep my commandments.
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So, do you think that, um, do you think that God's word, so what's in the Bible, scripture,
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So, what is the point of the, what is the point of the Bible for Christians?
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If it's not authoritative, what's the point of it?
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If you don't live by the word, what are you living by?
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Because I live by the word, and God's understanding that he's given through me.
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I don't say, oh, this is okay, but this is okay, and this is okay, but that's okay, too.
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Like, you gotta make up your mind in some area or another, baby girl.
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You really gotta understand, you're either living for Christ, or you're living for yourself.
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Right, well, if you think about it, I still have a lot of time to figure it out.
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Tomorrow, he could come back and take us all back to heaven.
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And you having this misunderstanding of what he really is, that's your problem.
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You have to really understand it and take it in.
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That's stronger than anything you can consume in your life.
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Maybe you should try it for a few days, Edward.
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I don't really care if people disagree with my faith because I know where my faith comes from.
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Well, I mean, if people are gonna tell me to shut the fuck up.
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I mean, I paid for myself to be here and people are just telling me to shut the fuck up.
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I mean, if you guys want me to leave, tell me that.
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If somebody's prattling, I'll tell them to shut the fuck up.
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In any case, though, you gotta kind of land the plane a little bit.
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The correct answer is I will stop posting my ass on Instagram.
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Because, look, Scripture, it's very explicit that God's word is authoritative binding,
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God's fine with me, just dressing like a strumpet, blah, blah, blah.
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Um, uh, you're basically just in defiance and disobedience of Scripture.
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So, and actually, in, for example, Islamic tradition, uh, there's actually much stricter
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But even in Christianity, whether you're Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, there's calls to,
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Going to a rap concert with your ass hanging out, I don't know if it's consistent with Christianity
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Yeah, well, I guess, I mean, the first thing, like, something super easy you could do would
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And then also, I'm going to take down, like, the...
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Uh, I'm going to archive the thirst trap photos or, like, the ass out photos on my Instagram.
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Um, so, next thing here, still kind of related to Christianity, though.
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You said you disagree with how the host believes that the man should be in charge of women's
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decisions and how he believes that women should submit to men.
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So, you say, um, disagreement that, uh, man should be in charge of women's decisions.
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I'm assuming you mean in the context of a relationship, right?
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Um, and then how he believes that women should submit to men.
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Uh, and, of course, I'm assuming you're talking in the context of a relationship or marriage.
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Um, what do you mean when you say by in charge of a woman's decisions?
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What decisions specifically or what do you think my position is?
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Um, like, how, like, the man should say that, like, a woman can't do something because, like,
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Um, like, telling a woman to, like, like, oh, like, say, like, a woman wants to, like,
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get a job somewhere and, like, the man says no.
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You're in a relationship with a girl or you're married to the girl and she wants to go dress
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No, she's, well, the next part is she's going, she wants to go out to the club with her single
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Yeah, you can't force somebody not to do something.
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So, all these are examples, though, that you would say would be, uh, in charge of a woman's
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I mean, in relationship, I feel like both the man and woman should have a say.
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Um, and then I'll get into that in just a moment, but you also have, uh, and, and, and, and,
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and then really quick, what have I said specifically, uh, in terms of being in charge of women's
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Um, I know you, like the club topic, you talked about that a few times.
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But there's probably other examples similar to that.
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And then, um, how I believe that, uh, a woman should submit to men.
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Um, and then, uh, I know you kind of have thoughts on this topic, so I'll get to you
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Um, to some extent, I believe, like, submitting should be 50-50.
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I believe they both should play a part in submitting to one another's needs.
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But in terms of submission, uh, you are against women submitting to their husbands.
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In, submitting to me means, like, like, committing to, like, being in a relationship and, like,
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Not, like, following, but, like, the typical, like, or, like, if you're married or, like, dating,
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Like, you don't go out with other guys, like, or, like, you don't go out with other girls.
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So she said, I mean, you said going out with, when you say going out with other women, do
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you mean, like, going out to the club or you mean, like, dating other women?
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I mean, like, like, a guy shouldn't be going around hanging around with a ton of girls
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and a girl shouldn't be going around hanging out with a ton of guys.
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Like, I think going to the club with your girlfriends is fine.
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And I think a guy should be able to do the same.
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Like, if he's going out to the club with his, like, male friends.
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And I feel like if it's a relationship that I'm truly going to, like, that's going to
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last, like, a marriage relationship, I shouldn't have to worry about, like, my future husband
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or he shouldn't have to worry about what I'm doing at the club if it's, like, a good, healthy
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He should be able to, we should be able to trust one another to not.
00:53:23.120
Like, okay, it's funny because as I'm agnostic and I feel like I go hard as a mother.
00:53:33.640
I go harder for Christianity than actual Christians do.
00:53:39.540
So I defend it and I go harder for Christianity.
00:53:43.960
I have pro-Christian sentiment, but I don't have belief.
00:53:47.080
Um, so, okay, this, this goes back to, um, kind of the previous thing.
00:53:59.720
So this is completely incoherent and contradictory to your own worldview that you claim to be a
00:54:07.900
You claim to be Christians, um, Ephesians 5, 22, wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands
00:54:14.740
as you do to the Lord for the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church.
00:54:21.440
Now, as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
00:54:31.660
1 Peter 3, uh, 1, wives, in the same way, submit yourselves to your own husbands.
00:54:38.300
How is it that an agnostic is explaining to two Catholics and one Protestant,
00:54:43.060
like, you guys are completely just throw, like, throwing away the Christian perspective on this?
00:54:55.520
Um, honestly, I reconcile with the fact that I, I am a Protestant.
00:55:00.760
I go to church, not often, but there's times that I tend to, I just honestly think I'm not
00:55:05.520
familiar enough with, like, all the scripture there is.
00:55:08.460
So, I feel like if I read more on it, I would be more, like...
00:55:13.040
I just gave you the three, I just gave you three verses.
00:55:20.660
I pulled them, I mean, obviously there's different translations, but they're all,
00:55:25.280
regardless of which translation, it's going to either be, um, the, the translations vary,
00:55:31.120
but the terms will, you will hear interchangeably, interchangeably are either submit, obey, or,
00:55:41.480
So, I mean, hearing what I've just told you, is your position different?
00:55:49.900
Or do you still believe, uh, no, it can be 50-50, women should not submit to their boyfriends
00:55:58.580
Um, well, like, you probably should obey, like, your husband and basically, like, um, yeah.
00:56:11.280
That's completely contradictory to what you just said, though.
00:56:20.820
Um, well, what I think is, is, like, for, like, I just feel like, um, with, like, a relationship,
00:56:27.340
like, it should be, like, loving, equal, but, like, you, like, should be able to, like,
00:56:36.380
Wait, what do you, oh, be, like, able to, like, obey and, like, do things like?
00:56:51.120
Well, you should follow what the Bible says, because...
00:56:54.660
Okay, but, like, let's say your husband, you're married, and your husband's, like, you want
00:56:59.900
to go out to a nightclub, and your husband's, like, nah.
00:57:04.640
Okay, so I, perhaps I've changed your perspective.
00:57:07.600
Uh, you're still, you're still strong on this no submitting thing, though, correct?
00:57:14.600
Um, I think that boyfriend-wise, it should be 50-50 until he's, like, ready to commit
00:57:23.620
And then once he shows that he's, like, husband material, then submitting would be, like, like,
00:57:34.720
And, like, the whole club thing, I feel like I would try to talk to him about it, try and,
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like, see if I can change his mind, or, like, something.
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I think it's okay to, I mean, honestly, when I think it, when it comes to submission, um,
00:57:54.020
you need to essentially immediately defer to him.
00:57:57.060
Now, I think it's okay for women to feel, perhaps, disappointment.
00:58:05.560
You need to, oh, you need to, the word is so good, but it has evaded me.
00:58:14.040
Um, you need to regulate, like, so, okay, your boyfriend said, your boyfriend or husband
00:58:19.700
says, I don't want you to go to the club, and maybe that disappoints you.
00:58:22.640
But you defer to him, and you regulate your response to it.
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Like, you could be disappointed internally, but you're not going to cause friction.
00:58:32.440
You're not going to whinge and nag him about it.
00:58:43.540
Um, because everyone has, like, the right to do what they want.
00:58:48.040
Okay, so do Christians have the right to deny the Trinity?
00:58:54.660
I thought, I thought people had the right to do what they want.
00:58:57.240
It depends what you want to do with your life, or what you believe in.
00:59:09.060
I mean, I mean, I mean, the Bible probably does go against it, but, I mean, if they really
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So, I understand that you, you can, like, you, you can do all kinds of sin and heresy.
00:59:23.320
You, you can do it, but I'm talking about, uh, should.
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So, I haven't, I think I've convinced your sister, but I'm still cracking away.
00:59:38.820
Um, so the three Bible verses that I cited to, um, I guess I would ask you this.
00:59:45.540
So, do you believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God?
00:59:51.660
It's not just a collection of optional opinions.
00:59:56.740
Um, in 2 Timothy 3, 16, it states all scriptures inspired by God.
01:00:02.860
Um, so if scripture is God breathed, then rejecting clear commands is disagreement with God.
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So, the scripture that I cited to you before, wives, obey your husbands, wives, submit yourselves
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Um, I guess on what basis do you guys decide which commands, uh, still apply and which ones
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Um, I really believe that all commands do apply, but some people do have trouble with,
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like, sinning and not following commands at times.
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But I think that everybody at some point in their life will, like, build themselves up to
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be able to be strong enough to follow those commands without breaking them.
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So, I think at some point in everybody's life who is a Christian and who does believe in
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God and does follow his word, I think if they do break his commands, I think that they
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do still have the chance to, like, build discipline and start following his commands.
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But if we're having a conversation, you guys have a disagreement with me about, uh, women
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And I, I guess if you guys were secular, I think you would have really perhaps a strong,
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well, I would disagree with it being a compelling argument, but you would have a stronger foundation
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But when you tell me you're Christians and how the dynamic would be in your own relationships,
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I, I struggle, like, you guys are giving me a lot of leverage in my own position to be
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able to argue against you as it relates to submission.
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So, I'm confused about the rejection of being submissive in a relationship when it's, like,
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clearly called for in the Bible, by God, in Scripture.
01:02:14.420
Um, he rebuked people for nullifying God's commands.
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I think you guys kind of, I don't, I don't know how you navigate around the, I don't want
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But first, before we get there, which I'm happy to go there, first I need to figure out,
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I need, we need to get to the bottom of you guys being Christians, but rejecting submission.
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Um, I think once I find my husband, then yes, I will be, like, like, this is my family,
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Like, there's no reason for me to, like, not be.
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But I think boyfriend-wise, I don't think until he is my husband that I, like, I'm going
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But you wouldn't be, like, you, you've been, you wouldn't be submissive to a boyfriend.
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The submissiveness for a boyfriend would have to be 50-50 for me.
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So, like, it would still, like, it wouldn't totally disregard, like, what he said.
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But it also wouldn't be, like, I'm, like, submitting to him fully because he's not my
01:04:04.000
Have you ever asked a guy out on the first date?
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Did you pay for the first date when you asked the guy out?
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I did not, only because he offered, but I would have paid.
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So, the date, the one time you asked a guy out, he still paid for the date?
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You also did circle here on the questionnaire, men should pay on first dates.
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So, assuming the guy asks you out, which is the fact women are almost universally never
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So, given the fact that in practice men are the ones who do ask women out, should men pay
01:04:45.420
Why, what's, so using your own logic, what's stopping men from saying, well, she's not my
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wife yet, so I'm not going to, I'm not going to protect her, I'm not going to provide her
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Would you like that kind of dynamic in your relationship?
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I wouldn't like it all the time, but if there's times where, I believe, like, when you have
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a boyfriend, if you, if he's paying for every single date, I don't think that's right.
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I think it should be, like, I think that should be split.
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But, like, you guys still, like, like, split it.
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Like, oh, you paid for this day, I'll pay for the next date.
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Um, but you were saying how, well, you'll be submissive when you're finally married.
01:05:38.200
Um, are there other things that you will hold back on until you're married?
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So you would do those things, uh, but you won't be submissive.
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So if your boyfriend was, like, hey, I don't want you to wear that, you'd be, like, nah,
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If it is, like, super revealing, and I know, like, it is, I will, I won't.
01:06:06.020
But if it's, like, oh, like, jean shorts that are just, like, fine, and if he's just
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being, like, like, super controlling, I'm gonna be, like, this is outrageous.
01:06:14.020
But I do know when it is too revealing, and I know that I don't even wear stuff that's
01:06:23.180
There has been times, like, at concerts, I have worn a couple revealing things, but
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it's never just, like, everyday regular occasion where I wear, like, like, boobs out, butt out,
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Well, like, would you be, are you only gonna be submissive to your husband, or, like, most
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people will date for one, two, three years before they're even married?
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Or do you wait only, he only gets submission until you're married?
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Well, like, I feel like it, like, depends on, like, the level of how much you love someone,
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how much you get to know them, and, like, how long you guys have been dating and stuff.
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Like, when it starts to get really serious and stuff, then probably start, and then he'll propose,
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and then, like, you should be able to, like, be submissive.
01:07:23.220
Well, like, when I said, like, things get, like, more serious and stuff like that, because,
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like, if you're, like, starting to, like, just date a guy, like, after, like, a day, or,
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like, two days, like, it's just, like, you get there.
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Like, it starts up, and there's, like, um, like, levels in, like, a relationship.
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Sure. Well, even going ahead and granting that, uh, you know, it might be after the first date,
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it might be a bit soon for a man to, who you otherwise are interested in, to be like, okay,
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I don't want you wearing, dressing like this, and, uh, going to the club or whatever.
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It could be potentially too soon, although I don't really object to it.
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Um, let's say you've been together for three months at this point, and you've had a title,
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Well, like, I feel like it, like, gradually, like, you know, like, gets there, so, like,
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I don't know. I just feel like, maybe, like, when it gets to, like, a point of, like, a year,
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you guys know each other really well, because even, like, like, I don't know, like, a first date,
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like, you don't know them very well. You get to know them, you get to know their beliefs and their views.
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Yeah, but I'm talking, like, three months in, when you're boyfriend, girlfriend.
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I think, um, like, boyfriends, mostly 50-50, but, like, at the longer it goes on, like, a year.
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Two years, three years, we would, like, build on.
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Obviously, if I'm with somebody for a year, two years, three years,
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And so then it'll, like, slowly, like, fade into that submissive transition.
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But I think if it's someone that I kind of have a feeling that it's not going to last
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or I'm not 100% sure, then I don't think I'm going to, like, fully submit myself
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to somebody who I feel isn't 100%, like, committed to being my husband.
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Because I feel like, you know, when you're dating somebody,
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that is sort of the temperature check for how they're going to be long-term,
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So, like, if I'm dating a girl and, you know, it's our third date
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or, you know, we've been dating for one, two, three months
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and she doesn't want to cook, she doesn't want to clean,
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she doesn't want to, oh, I'll do that shit when we're married.
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I mean, I'd probably dump her, but, like, that should be,
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those things should not be reserved for marriage.
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in the same way that you'd probably, like, imagine a guy.
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So, okay, if men were looking for, like, these feminine traits in women,
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were looking for women to be submissive, to follow our leadership,
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you know what, like, you women want to be masculine.
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I feel like you would have, you women would have massive issue
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if men were saying, well, I'm going to be really feminine
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for the first three months of our relationship.
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Oh, I'll never be like, okay, I'll pick you up at 7 p.m.
01:11:48.360
I feel like y'all women would have an issue with that
01:11:50.480
if men were, like, holding back on some of their obligations
01:11:54.980
and duties in a relationship to be masculine, to be leaders,
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pay for dates, chivalry, protect, provide, et cetera.
01:12:04.860
Yeah, but you shouldn't just submit to any guy.
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Like, it should be somebody who you see as your future husband.
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Like, if any girl just started submitting to every guy that she went on a date with,
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Like, even if you're a Christian, that goes against those beliefs as well.
01:12:22.620
Like, the guy has to be reasonable, and you have to be actually interested in being with him.
01:12:30.880
Well, of course, but you should be, you should, of course,
01:12:35.120
like, you shouldn't date somebody who you're not into.
01:12:39.720
Yeah, but there's a time period where you obviously decide if that's the case.
01:12:48.880
You don't think they should have to prove themselves in a way?
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You should be submissive in some ways, but, like, following everything that he says,
01:12:57.620
that's something that, like, a long-term, your long-term man would do, or your husband would do.
01:13:04.560
Sorry, what was your question? Could you repeat it?
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It was, do you think that men should have to prove themselves in order for women to be submissive?
01:13:11.860
Like, do you think they should have to provide for women to be submissive?
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Or do you think, like, a man that has no job and is a bum,
01:13:21.720
he should still have women be submissive to him just because he's a man?
01:13:24.620
So, I mean, I would say, if, as a woman, you have chosen that guy who, either he's not there.
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By the way, these are, like, 18, 19-year-old girls.
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They're not dating guys who are making a ton of money, I'm assuming.
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They're probably dating guys in college who don't have a lot of money.
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I mean, some guys, you know, whether their family's wealthier, maybe they're dating older men, a bit older men, whatever it is.
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But I would say, if you've chosen the guy, yeah, you better be submissive to him.
01:13:57.520
Like, I mean, why pick the, like, why be with a guy that you're not really feeling?
01:14:02.980
Like, if you've picked the guy, yeah, you should be submissive to him.
01:14:06.140
Like, and as the man, if you've picked the woman, like, you should take on your roles, too.
01:14:11.020
But in terms of his money and stuff, like, I think there's a difference here.
01:14:17.980
If the woman is considering the guy's economic status as a factor of who she wouldn't date,
01:14:25.960
and she cares about his finances, then, yeah, she should pick intention, like, from the get-go, a guy who has his finances together.
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Do you think that men should have to prove themselves in any way for women to be submissive?
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Or do you just think it should be default, which I think, default, right?
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But ideally, it should be the default in both ways, both directions.
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I don't think men should necessarily hold back, and I don't think women should hold back.
01:15:05.760
Now, I'm not saying you need to, like, you know, for example, men should provide.
01:15:12.600
I don't think, you know, you're going to pay her rent, start paying her rent, or she's going to move in with you,
01:15:19.520
and you're paying the rent for your place on the first date.
01:15:22.360
Obviously, I think you can have room to breathe in relationships.
01:15:27.540
But I think in terms of general temperament, yes, I think women should, like, in the ways that women can be submissive early on, they should be.
01:15:36.100
In the ways that men can provide, can protect, can be chivalrous early on, in the ways they can be, they should be.
01:15:46.980
It's different for me because I always had a hard time being submissive to men, so I always had a hard time in relationships with men.
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Because generally, I like to be the person that provides and takes on the more, you could say, masculine role.
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And you've, you haven't dated a guy since, like, how old?
01:16:20.100
With women, you take on the more masculine role.
01:16:22.540
Okay, well, I mean, lesbian relationships are a little bit different, is the thing.
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But I think with women, like, if she were to ask me out, then she should pay for the date.
01:16:39.440
And essentially plan it, if she's the one to ask me out.
01:16:43.320
The woman, if she asks you out, she should pay?
01:16:46.300
How many dates, like, how many first dates with different women have you been on?
01:16:51.900
Okay, so what has your experience been with that?
01:16:57.860
I never really had a first date with my... the first girl that I ever dated.
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We worked together, so we just kind of started hanging out from there.
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I mean, I guess, technically, we did have a first date at some point.
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The chat wishes to give notice that the overuse of the word like has been like, overused like, so much.
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The girls say like so much that I start saying like.
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Have I changed your mind at all, or are you still gung-ho on not being submissive?
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Like, as it gets more serious, then the submission would be fine.
01:18:28.560
Well, I feel like both men and women should submit to each other, like, in a relationship still.
01:18:35.900
Like, you guys like talk about like what each other are comfortable with, and like, just listen to each other, set boundaries.
01:18:42.940
Yeah, so I mean, I think it's totally fine to have conversations with your girlfriend or wife and, you know, have conversations and get her input.
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But, however, I think once the guys made a determination, that should be it.
01:19:08.340
Oh, I mean, it could be, hmm, let me give an example.
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I mean, we can just use the, like, wearing something revealing thing.
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Yeah, so the boyfriend says, don't want you to go out wearing that.
01:19:38.440
I mean, honestly, you should just be like, look, do you girls want to get the guy?
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The moment you cause friction in the relationship, he'll keep you around for sex.
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The moment you introduce some bullshit, like, maybe minor friction some guys will tolerate.
01:20:15.640
But the moment he's like, he's like, okay, this woman's going to be nagging me for the rest of my life.
01:20:22.100
Maybe if you're, like, hot and you give him pussy, he'll stick around.
01:20:25.700
But it's like, oh, you want him to give you a ring?
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The moment you give him a friction, sorry, it's done.
01:20:36.460
So it's like, I don't know, maybe y'all should defer a little bit.
01:20:41.660
I just want to say I will do laundry and I will wash the dishes and I will cook meals every night and every morning.
01:20:50.800
Well, it's like, as a guy, you don't want friction.
01:20:53.580
I'll give you an example from my own life, something I've encountered from time to time.
01:20:59.160
So I, and this can vary, but generally speaking, I prefer sleeping in separate beds, separate rooms.
01:21:07.720
Now, I can't, there are times, like, especially early on, like, first time, first time she's sleeping over, guest room.
01:21:22.340
If she lives, if she's, like, visiting me, separate guest rooms, separate bedrooms.
01:21:28.040
If she's, lives in the same city, you can, you can go home.
01:21:33.800
Like, you're not, you're not spending, you're not sleeping over.
01:21:37.160
I guess she could stay in the guest room if she really wanted, but you're not sleeping over.
01:21:42.640
And I've had times where, I'm not a dick about it, but I'm just like, I've had girls who have come out to see me.
01:21:50.140
You know, I don't know, it was a couple years ago, whatever.
01:21:52.280
I've had a girl who's come out to see me, like she flew out for two days or something.
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I'm like, all right, well, hey, we should, I'm getting kind of tired.
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I'm going to bring you to the guest room and I'll get you all set up.
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Oh, my God, I can't sleep with, I can't, I can't sleep in the same bed as you.
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They lose their fucking shit and cause a bunch of friction.
01:22:25.440
Like, I've had women crash out, I'm not even joking.
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Like, everything's gone good, everything's good.
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I'm like, this is really what you want to do right before bed?
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And then, like, after that, I'm just like, I've, I lost interest.
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I'm like, cause if you're going to fight me on this, like, I understand.
01:23:02.980
Look, I think it's okay for women to want to, like, sleep in the same bed as the guy.
01:23:11.220
But your response to me having this boundary and saying, I want, I want to put you in the
01:23:20.980
It's not, you might be disappointed as a woman.
01:23:24.040
Women need to regulate their response that you can be disappointed.
01:23:28.680
You might, you can even be a bit visibly disappointed.
01:23:32.820
Um, but you shouldn't be trying to negotiate it with me.
01:23:37.240
You shouldn't be like arguing and bickering and nagging with me.
01:23:47.140
So they're just mad that they can't sleep with you.
01:23:51.140
Uh, well, they're, well, we already slept together, but they can't sleep with me like
01:24:00.520
You're going to lay down with them, but you're not going to lay down with them when it comes
01:24:05.200
So see, how can you do the laying down part, but how can you be saying all these things and
01:24:12.900
You're going to go, you're going to be sexual with them, but you can't even lay in the same
01:24:24.000
That you, it's okay for you to sleep with them and like, are you making, are you making
01:24:30.420
Well, no, I just want to understand where you're coming from because like, yeah.
01:24:34.020
So my thing is like, I want to know why you think it's okay to sleep with them.
01:24:38.940
No, I'm happy to go into that, but really quick, do you, so do you think that that's
01:24:45.820
Oh, I mean, at the end of the day, I just want to know your understanding with it because
01:24:52.700
I'm not going to judge you on that front, but I want to know what goes through your head
01:25:01.260
Would you be upset if presented with that, I would not sleep with you and then be presented
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with that option because I'm not sleeping with somebody who's even going to present
01:25:14.620
So even the audacity of that, the audacity, yes, because I'm not the audacity of a man
01:25:23.240
So your boundary, your boundary would be if I sleep with you, we're sleeping in the
01:25:31.920
No, I'm not sleeping with you until we can both meet each other's expectations.
01:25:38.280
I don't think he should sleep with me until I meet his expectations, which is, you know,
01:25:45.260
If he wants me to sleep with him, I should meet his expectations of being a rightful woman,
01:25:50.220
a righteous woman before he sleeps with me and he should be a righteous man before I
01:26:13.140
So you're saying, let's assume, is it possible that a situation could arise where,
01:26:20.220
this, before, uh, you sleep with a guy and this conversation had not yet been parsed,
01:26:31.640
Any Proverbs 31 woman is going to have this conversation beforehand.
01:26:42.740
We should all have the understanding of each other's desires before we even get into bed
01:26:48.720
So you should understand if someone has a desire to sleep freely on their own bed and
01:26:55.540
have, like, anyone can choose who sleeps in their bed.
01:27:00.220
But you shouldn't lay down with somebody and have sex with them and then expect it to
01:27:07.600
I think that, in that sense, if you're going to, if you're going to, if you're going to,
01:27:12.720
if you're going to, uh, uh, them, you know, like you, you should at least lay down and
01:27:21.180
Don't just lay down and, uh, uh, unless you're going to, uh, uh, with them too.
01:27:31.060
So again, I'm just to be clear here when it comes to separate beds thing, I'm not saying
01:27:34.940
like you, the first time you ever have sex with a girl, you have sex with her.
01:27:39.740
And then as soon as you climax, you kick her out of the room.
01:27:42.760
That's not what I'm saying, but it could be like you have sex with her and you continue
01:27:47.140
to hang out with her for one, two, three hours.
01:27:52.020
Um, Hey, I'm going to set you up in the guest room.
01:28:00.080
Yeah, but it sounds like you would still have a problem with, I don't think I would put myself
01:28:04.160
in a position where I would sleep with the man and that would happen to me because
01:28:15.720
So to be clear though, cause I feel like this separate beds thing is typically not something
01:28:23.020
At least, I mean, I guess some people could do it, but it's kind of a bit unique.
01:28:27.140
It's a bit, uh, uncommon, I guess would be the best word.
01:28:31.160
You're telling me of the two men that you've been with prior to having sex with them, you
01:28:37.960
double checked to make sure that like you got, you could sleep together with them.
01:28:44.320
I slept in the same bed as them before I did have sexual honor course with them.
01:28:50.960
It was like a little, like it, it was little cutesy stuff.
01:28:57.780
And I do remember you did want me to explain my reasoning and I promise I'll get there in
01:29:06.880
The, initially the guy was fine with it, but he started, uh, noticing that when he did
01:29:14.920
sleep in the same bed as you, maybe he, he was a light sleeper.
01:29:18.720
Maybe he had not like had girls do sleepovers before.
01:29:22.100
Maybe he's not sexually experienced, whatever, whatever, whatever it is.
01:29:25.560
So initially he was like, Oh, it's probably fine.
01:29:27.720
And then who knows the girl snores, she moves in her bed, whatever it is, or just by virtue
01:29:34.520
of having the presence of somebody else in his bed, it made it difficult for him to get
01:29:39.220
Well, I've had those situations myself, you know, and I couldn't rest with a man in my
01:29:44.400
And I was with this man for two years, you know, I still couldn't sleep in the same bed
01:29:48.940
I'd go into the basement and sleep in the spare room because of the snoring and wait, you
01:29:53.440
know, so, but that's what I could sleep with him.
01:29:57.720
Wait, so a certain amount of time when we like, we're in the beginning stages, but
01:30:03.140
as we got to know each other, it got a lot, it got a lot harder for us to be in the same
01:30:08.420
bed because first of all, there was no intercourse.
01:30:22.940
So on one hand, you have this major objection to, oh, if the guy won't like share a bed
01:30:32.240
I wouldn't lay with a man who wouldn't lay with me.
01:30:36.620
Well, that, that seemed to be the intention behind your words was, whoa, Brian, I'm strongly
01:30:45.680
I think it's wrong when you just want to have sexual intercourse with a woman and you want
01:30:59.820
And pretty much, you are okay with bringing a woman out and, you know, you guys do your
01:31:06.220
thing and then you tell her, hey, look, you're going to the other room.
01:31:11.580
You didn't give very much context when you said what you said.
01:31:14.600
So pretty much what I thought is, okay, you're just going to do your thing.
01:31:23.760
That's pretty much what's going through my head and you had to explain it.
01:31:28.860
So now with the, the clarity and the context, so it's not just, I'm being a, you know, a
01:31:36.720
massive dick and it's like, like literally as I'm pulling out of her, I'm like, get the
01:31:48.240
Maybe we don't, she's going to be spending the night and the determination is, okay, I'm
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going to set you up in the guest room so that we have our separate sleeping spaces.
01:32:08.000
Honestly, at the end of the day, I'm just a woman and I should be in a woman's place.
01:32:13.520
Are you going to like participate in good faith?
01:32:17.980
Like I'm answering your questions in good faith.
01:32:30.300
I told you my opinion and I'm so grateful that you gave me context.
01:32:39.520
I just don't, I don't know if you should be with the person if you don't think you should
01:32:46.280
Even if you're having sex or not having sex, if you can't rest with them, I don't think
01:32:52.580
So just a reminder, you were dating of the two men that you have had sex with, one of
01:32:57.720
which snored, you were not, you were going into another room sleeping on the couch.
01:33:19.400
Right, but why were you, like if, so what you're saying what I'm doing is wrong by wanting
01:33:30.420
I meant the point of just having intercourse with a woman and then kicking her to another
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Your argumentation is so slippery here because you just said, even, even when I provided the
01:33:46.480
clarification and saying it's not, it's never, okay, she's just, I'm just using her for sex.
01:33:52.380
She's just coming over for sex and I'm immediately kicking her out of the room.
01:34:01.440
If she's good enough to fuck her, then you might as well lay her in bed with you.
01:34:06.260
Okay, so, so let me, let me pin you down to that position though.
01:34:10.440
Okay, so your position is like removing varying degrees of context or whatever.
01:34:15.860
Uh, let's assume for your position, let's say, um, you know, it's not this sort of rude.
01:34:26.140
Then I'm going to kick her into the guest room right after sex.
01:34:28.480
It can be like, yes, we do have sex and I'm not kicking her out like immediately.
01:34:35.220
I wouldn't even categorize it as kicking out, but we continue to hang out the rest of the night.
01:34:47.500
Oh, Hey, um, let me get you set up in the guest room.
01:34:50.420
Um, you said your position is if you're willing to sleep with the girl, you should be willing
01:34:56.640
to lay with them, like sleep with them in the same bed.
01:35:00.420
So do you have an issue with it in the way I just described it?
01:35:04.540
I don't because I believe that's personal preference.
01:35:07.280
And if I was to tell you, you were wrong for having your own personal opinion, I would
01:35:16.880
But you said, you also said if you're, if you're willing to have sex with a woman, you
01:35:21.540
should be willing to lay with her something to that effect.
01:35:24.620
I mean, you should, shouldn't you, if she's good enough for you to put your, your stuff
01:35:40.560
I don't think you should be having a woman in your house and having intercourse with her and
01:35:44.100
then shoving her into another room, whether it's hours in between or not.
01:35:47.920
Like if you're wanting to have intercourse with a woman, you should keep her as your
01:35:55.680
You, you've, you've, uh, dug in your heels a little bit on something that I can argue
01:36:01.960
So now I'll give you now, but now I'll give you the justifications for why.
01:36:08.480
So first off, I think, uh, first off, I think people, regardless of like a reason or justification
01:36:15.460
for it, I think somebody's boundary is reason enough.
01:36:21.460
So I don't think I need to, I shouldn't even have to explain it to a woman.
01:36:28.440
I think me simply just having a boundary me in terms of my own, I guess this would be
01:36:35.820
Uh, if I just want to have my own sleeping space, uh, and that's my boundary that in and
01:36:42.400
of itself should be enough, but I'm prepared to give you some reason.
01:36:45.420
So one, I think, um, I think, you know, look, if you're a fucking controversial podcast
01:36:51.740
host, who knows, you know, who knows she's a fucking assassin who came to fuck and then
01:37:02.100
I don't know, but jokes aside a little bit, uh, I think in terms of sleep quality, there's
01:37:07.220
really compelling arguments that people, uh, sleep better in separate beds.
01:37:11.600
Um, even if there's not snoring from either partner, I do think it's the case that, uh,
01:37:17.720
at least for me, I know some people totally fine, not an issue.
01:37:21.160
It won't have any impact on your sleep quality.
01:37:24.060
For me, sleeping in the same bed as somebody does typically impact my sleep quality.
01:37:28.880
Uh, you know, I'm, I'm not a young gun anymore.
01:37:34.740
Uh, I need to be able to get some good sleep, get the beauty sleep.
01:37:43.680
And honestly, just to be in a good mood, to be in a good disposition, I need a good night's
01:37:49.480
So for those reasons, uh, I do prefer to have, not to say that I can't do it, you know,
01:37:55.860
whatever, like sometimes, you know, maybe on Valentine's day, I'll be nice and she can
01:38:06.980
But, um, generally speaking, I do like separate beds because of the, uh, excuse me, because of
01:38:16.280
And I think, uh, my sleep quality supersedes, uh, my girlfriend's desire to, um, have a
01:38:27.680
little bit extra level of intimacy by sleeping in the same bed.
01:38:38.720
I mean, that is totally your personal preference.
01:38:42.880
And I'm not going to give you any hate on that.
01:38:45.680
Where I come from, I would honestly feel rejected.
01:38:52.080
But I have to come from a woman's point of view and say, hey, look, if a guy is looking
01:38:57.100
at me saying, I'm good enough to fuck, but I'm not good enough to lay in his bed, I don't
01:39:04.440
Why does that have to mean that you're not good enough, though?
01:39:06.880
But, and it doesn't necessarily have to mean that, but that's how women's brains typically
01:39:16.080
Okay, but if I say, hey, listen, this isn't like, this is not a rejection of you.
01:39:20.900
Um, if I didn't have these, uh, issues with my sleep quality, when I do share a bed, I
01:39:27.860
would have absolutely no issue sharing a bed with you.
01:39:31.480
It's been with all past, you know, girlfriends.
01:39:35.360
You ex, you exactly, uh, put it the way you feel and you give me the explanation.
01:39:44.440
That's a different scenario opposed to somebody just being like, okay, one and done, go to
01:39:52.120
So I give you your respect because you at least put your, your reasons why, and you
01:40:02.460
Uh, I give her the option to respect it or not.
01:40:13.920
I mean, if she's really going to cause friction over it, like, um, it's going to be a major issue.
01:40:19.280
But I think the origin, the origination point here was about submission.
01:40:23.620
And so look, I think, I think as a woman, it's totally, yes, probably a lot of women would
01:40:35.040
Some, a lot of women probably prefer to like sleep in the same bed.
01:40:38.640
And the point I'm trying to make when it comes to submission is, um, it's okay for you to
01:40:47.220
However, you're not going to then nag me in an attempt to get compliance, to coerce me
01:40:57.160
But for example, I know like, obviously, look, you've been invited on a discussion show to
01:41:01.780
have debate and discussion on these various dating related topics.
01:41:05.320
If you gave me the level of free, like, let's say hype, we, that was a role play right now
01:41:11.260
And I had to walk you through all that shit to get you to finally be okay with, uh, what
01:41:18.440
I'm putting down when you've just caused way too much friction.
01:41:30.220
I know, of course you've been invited to come on a dating podcast and talk, but if a girl
01:41:34.320
gave me as much friction as you just gave, I'd say, see you later.
01:41:40.320
But my question is, uh, well, I can be honest, you would be deuces too.
01:41:46.740
If, if, so just to be clear, you just fucked a guy and he's like, okay, uh, Hey, you know,
01:41:56.520
So just to be clear, the perfect guy and you guys, um, you won't date him if he won't sleep
01:42:07.520
I said more along the lines of, I would feel offended.
01:42:26.160
I guess the point I'm trying to make here is, uh, ultimately, uh, you women, if you want
01:42:32.960
to sleep in the same bed with a guy, that's, that's fine.
01:42:36.200
Although if the guy in his determination has said, Hey, I'm going to get you set up in the
01:42:59.640
Does anybody want to weigh in on the sleeping in the same bed thing?
01:43:02.740
Um, I think it's a fine preference because at the end of the day, you're sleeping, right?
01:43:10.000
And if I really had a problem with that, I would just go home.
01:43:13.400
But I mean, I don't care if, if I'm with somebody and they're like, Hey, like I want you
01:43:20.540
I'll go to the guest room and sleep because I'm sleeping at the end of the day.
01:43:24.140
I'm sleeping and it doesn't, if I, if I wake up in the morning and I'm like, Oh, I want
01:43:30.600
Then I'm going to wake up, go in there and go lay with him.
01:43:34.700
But it's not something that I'm going to like, I'm not going to be upset if he's like, Hey,
01:43:49.620
I personally think that if a man is telling you that he wants you to sleep in the guest
01:43:56.440
room, how is it my place to like, try and make him comfortable with something that he's
01:44:09.680
And so do you have a place to tell a man that you should sleep?
01:44:14.820
I would never tell a man what he should or shouldn't do, but you would argue with him.
01:44:18.320
But I wouldn't go and sleep with a man and then let him kick me to the guest room.
01:44:26.980
If he told me he wants me to go and sleep in there, you know, I'll let it be what it
01:44:30.720
But at the end of the day, I have my own house.
01:44:32.540
He said that, okay, okay, you have your own house.
01:44:37.260
So he said that he's not kicking her to the guest room.
01:44:44.200
But if he's asking you to go to the guest room just to sleep.
01:44:53.260
The fact that it's like, it's the first time with like the sleeping together aspect.
01:45:01.440
Like sleeping together is such an exchange of like souls and passion towards each other.
01:45:12.460
But like, how can you sleep with somebody and then just be like, I don't want closeness
01:45:16.540
with you after you've been as close as you can get to somebody.
01:45:25.360
That would be one thing that you would fight with him over.
01:45:35.640
So you're saying that he should be okay with it because the audacity of sleeping after he
01:45:46.280
I said I would be, quite frankly, agitated about it.
01:45:48.980
I wouldn't want to go into the room and I would never allow it to happen like that.
01:45:52.060
But you said earlier that you had to go to another room because of the snoring and you
01:45:58.540
Well, that was also with somebody I never slept with, so.
01:46:04.040
You said as a woman, I don't think it applies to all women, but.
01:46:11.740
And so if we can relate on something, we don't have to like just not relate all together.
01:46:19.700
You don't just have to be like off one side and against me.
01:46:30.660
Can you just not have any compassion in your heart at all?
01:46:35.380
Are you just really that cold hearted that you can't relate to anything?
01:46:50.880
You can relate to me just by having compassion in certain situations.
01:46:55.640
But you didn't have it with him whenever he wanted to sleep in his bed.
01:46:59.580
Well, that's not true because I told him it was a fair point.
01:47:02.960
Did you ask, like, would you ask a man if you would sleep in his bed after he did it with you?
01:47:10.320
Like, you would ask a man, are we sleeping together right after this?
01:47:17.880
I wouldn't care if he wanted me to sleep in another bed.
01:47:22.300
I'm okay with him telling me to get the fuck out of this room and go and sleep in his bed.
01:47:25.460
He's not telling you to get the fuck out of this room.
01:47:32.520
You know, even if you slept with him or not, like, it doesn't matter the relation of his conversation at the end of the day.
01:47:51.700
I'm still trying to understand if that's just a really strong personal preference that you have or if you actually think it's wrong.
01:47:57.480
I think, honestly, if you don't want to, if you don't feel safe with sleeping with somebody, you shouldn't have him in your house, period.
01:48:10.280
If you want to fuck him and send him to the curb, send him to the curb.
01:48:19.540
You need to contend with my actual true argument, which is it impacts sleep quality.
01:48:30.100
Look, every, look, please don't make us have to remind you again.
01:48:40.960
I'm sorry, but I've had to ask you multiple times.
01:48:43.720
When you're speaking, be this close to the microphone.
01:48:51.960
I'm just a bit confused here by the whole objection to the sleeping in separate bedrooms thing.
01:48:59.060
I feel like you see it more as an objection instead of really where I'm coming from.
01:49:11.300
I relate to it in a certain capacity, but I also see another perspective of it as like, you should kind of respect each other a little bit more than to do that with each other if you don't even want to be together at the end of it.
01:49:28.760
Okay, so when you say respect each other, what would it mean for the, in this situation for the man, assuming he has this boundary of wanting to sleep in separate rooms, how does the man show respect to the woman while maintaining his boundary?
01:49:43.540
Well, I mean, how does a man accept a woman cooking for him?
01:49:50.880
How does a man accept a woman doing all these things for him when he can't even sleep in the same bed as her?
01:50:03.500
So if a woman sleeps, or if a woman cooks and cleans, I am now beholden to sharing a bed with her.
01:50:13.540
Not necessarily, but how can you sit there and just be like, I have these certain qualifications, and you have to have some type of, like, you have to work together, compromising.
01:50:34.460
The fact that you say there's no compromise means that you have no desire to work through it with your partner.
01:50:41.780
What is, yeah, yeah, I don't think that there's anything to work through here.
01:50:44.940
I think if I'm the guy who's making seven figures a year, if I'm the guy who's making seven figures a year, and you're staying your ass at home, yeah.
01:50:54.720
Yeah, my sleep quality is going to impact my ability to work.
01:51:05.240
That supersedes your desire for a slightly increased level of intimacy that you desire.
01:51:13.880
And even if it didn't, as a woman, if you're a Christian woman, or you're in a relationship with a submissive dynamic, it doesn't matter.
01:51:24.580
If he wants it to be separate beds, that's how it's going to be.
01:51:39.160
I mean, at the end of the day, you and your partner have to talk about that.
01:51:54.480
Do you believe women should be submissive to their husbands?
01:51:58.920
Okay, so if your husband, once you're married, has made a determination, he starts a new job,
01:52:04.880
and his sleep quality has become impacted by sleeping in the same bed as you, and from here on out...
01:52:21.460
If it's just a one-time situation, like, how are you going to do it on the first time?
01:52:25.220
And that's where I was coming from at the beginning.
01:52:27.320
I don't really have any disagreement with what you're saying.
01:52:33.700
But on a first-time situation, like a first date, that's where I felt like it was wrong.
01:52:42.520
No, but it seems like it's more than just that.
01:52:44.560
It seems like it's wrong in other contexts, too.
01:52:47.580
Like, when you're boyfriend and girlfriend, and you guys have, you know, been together for a period of time,
01:52:53.220
where there were opportunities for her to sleep over, but no, instead, you have her set up in another bedroom, in the guest room.
01:53:00.460
Well, like I said, I have no problems with that, as long as that's a mutual understanding between the two of you.
01:53:06.480
But you do have a problem with it, because you said, well, why would you sleep with a woman, but not share a bedroom?
01:53:15.140
But I was under the impression you were talking about the first encounter.
01:53:21.660
I mean, I'm fine with, even in the first encounter, I'm fine with separate bedrooms, even then.
01:53:26.820
Where I was saying, I was under the impression you were talking about the first encounter, and then you phrased it in a way it was after you were married.
01:53:32.740
So, I have different perspectives on those different scenarios.
01:53:43.040
I personally know a few married couples who do sleep in separate beds because of said sleep quality being affected.
01:53:51.560
And that has no effect on their intimacy level.
01:53:55.020
It has no effect on their, like, their affection towards each other, their, like, relationship health.
01:54:01.460
Like, it's just both of them understand that, like, it's what's going to be better for one person or the other.
01:54:12.160
Because, like, for instance, if your husband is snoring, like, crazy, and you have work at 5 a.m. the next day, and you let him know, like, hey, like, I feel like nothing personal towards...
01:54:25.640
Like, it's nothing personal, but, like, the snoring, it just affects how I sleep.
01:54:29.260
I feel like there should be no issue with sleeping in separate beds.
01:55:01.360
We got some non-submissive Christian women's here.
01:55:10.920
So, I'm sure maybe you've even wanted to weigh in on some of the topics, but you do disagree.
01:55:19.000
You say you're pretty liberal, so politically there are a lot of topics we would disagree on.
01:55:45.100
The majority of ICE officers abuse their power?
01:55:46.860
And I think that if that's what you want to do as your job, then that's just probably not compatible with me, personally.
01:55:53.040
Enforcing the laws of the United States is to be looked down upon?
01:56:06.900
Well, going around the table, would you date an ICE immigration enforcement officer?
01:56:26.460
Is China going to invade you guys, or what's going on?
01:56:33.620
I don't know if they're allowed to talk about it, right?
01:56:39.080
Sometimes I feel like they don't want to talk about that stuff.
01:57:07.340
It really just depends on the type of person they are.
01:57:10.480
If he's a good guy, I like him, and he's not...
01:57:13.600
At the end of the day, that is his job, but if he's not the type to...
01:57:17.360
If he's just doing his job, doing what he's supposed to do at the end of the day, that's
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If I like him for who he is, and he's just doing his job, I don't see an issue with it.
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If there's any billionaire women watching, I will be the best stay-at-home husband.
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I think it really depends on the person, and we need to know each other first.
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Since you guys live in a different country, would you date a police officer?
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I would, but actually, I'm scared, because my job is illegal in Singapore.
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So what if we break up and call the popo on me?
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I would rather just, like, date, like, someone in the military or, like, a police officer.
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But, I mean, in terms of, like, you know, the sort of standard, you know, operating procedure
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of, you know, immigration enforcement where they're just deporting criminals, is that sad?
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So, you're fine with the deportation of criminals?
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Are you okay with the deportation of criminals?
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Okay, would this just include illegal immigrants, period?
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Because they are committing a crime by virtue of being in the country illegally?
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I guess it would just, like, kind of depend on the person and who, like, the person and, like,
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who they are as, like, a person and their beliefs and stuff.
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But if that's their job, then that's their job, so...
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Because I don't like the abuse of power that is happening currently.
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So, what is the abuse of power that's happening?
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Like, the woman that obviously just got shot in the face.
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If somebody was going to go towards you with their car...
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I don't believe that one shot would be okay, but I do believe it's excessive.
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So, it would have been okay if she ran him over?
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When you're a federal agent, when you're employed by our U.S. government, you're actually above her.
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Well, he tried to, but then she just reared into him.
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If you look at his body cam footage, you will see that he was walking around the car.
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And you hear her partner going, hit, like, speed off.
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She was sitting there antagonizing them for two hours prior to that whole situation.
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I still do not believe it's justifiable to have shot her in the face three times.
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I don't think we'll linger too long on the killing of the woman.
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It's a bad thing any time anybody dies, you know.
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However, just really quick, who here, who's aware of the story?
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Who here thinks that the killing was unjustified?
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From what my understanding is, she was following them.
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And then she illegally got into the roadway to block them.
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Do you at least acknowledge that she was interfering with their operations?
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But there was a different officer that was approaching her car, giving her a legal command
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So, he was giving her a legal command to exit her vehicle.
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So, when a law enforcement agent tells you to get out of the car, that's not really at
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You're not going to be like a sidewalk attorney and be able to get yourself out of that.
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If a police officer is instructing you to get out of your car, it could technically...
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But there's a saying, you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride.
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From my perspective, it was a lawful order for her to exit the vehicle.
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Now, if a police officer is trying to detain you, are you allowed to flee?
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Can somebody in the chat tell me, does that get things to felony territory?
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In any case, though, what's probably the most troubling thing is that there was the agent directly in front of her car.
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As she started going forward, there was a point where he was in front of the car as she started accelerating when his partner or whatever told her to...
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If vehicles can be deemed deadly force, and I'm sure you'd agree with me that you could kill somebody with a car.
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And if you are driving towards somebody with a car, you could kill them.
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We afford police officers and law enforcement officers a certain extra level of...
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For example, if you assault a random person, like in the street, that is a crime.
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However, in the course of a law enforcement officer's duties, if you assault a law enforcement officer,
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that comes with a higher level of, let's say, punishment.
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So, in this case, she was moving her car towards, in the direction of, a law enforcement officer.
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There could have been, you know, in some alternate universe.
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Could have been a whole bunch of ways that could have gone differently.
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Unfortunately, from a legal perspective, self-defense.
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I don't think you're going to get around a self-defense argument.
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She was given a lawful order from a police officer to exit the vehicle.
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She was attempting to feloniously flee the detainment.
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There was a law enforcement officer directly in front of her.
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I understand the perspective of him trying to defend himself in that way.
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But I do think that it was excessive with firing so many shots and shooting her in the face.
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I don't know exactly what his approach could have been as far as an alternative prevention.
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Was he doing his job and was he fearful of getting hit?
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Should she have been there doing what she was doing?
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I don't necessarily believe that she should have.
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But can I see where she could have been fearful that she was going to get killed because of what the media is showing us right now from how ICE is behaving?
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So if you were pulled over because of what some instances of what...
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By the way, most traffic stops are completely unremarkable.
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Maybe the cop was a bit rude or a bit of a dick, but he gave you a ticket and you went on your way?
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Have you ever been the victim of police brutality?
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How many times have you been pulled over by police officers?
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And, you know, sometimes they can be a little rude or they can...
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Their tone might not be the nicest, but besides that, were your encounters with the police mostly unremarkable?
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So, if you were to just, oh my God, I see some shit in the media, and you were like, I'm fearful for my life, I'm going to speed off.
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But let's just go ahead, though, and say, you know what?
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Like, maybe he didn't do everything according to, you know, everything perfectly.
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Let me let this chat come through, then I'll ask the follow-up question.
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According to Glenn Kirshner, a retired federal prosecutor, and other lawyers who viewed the multiple videos online,
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the ICE agent violated numerous policies and safety procedures, Kant.
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I think there's a lot of people, especially who are conservative on the right, who think it was completely self-defense.
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But, yeah, I mean, he probably did certain things wrong.
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Like, there was fucking other cops, like, in the test.
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So, anyways, oh, the question was, though, related to immigration.
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Let's go ahead and say that there are, like, examples of ICE agents doing things bad.
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But in terms of the guiding principle of what they're doing, which is enforcing immigration law, do you object to that?
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I don't think that – I think that, yes, illegal immigrants should be deported and be made to come back in a legal way.
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But how they're doing it in such a violent manner and putting people through these, for lack of a better word, concentration camps, what would you call that?
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I don't think the conditions in those are proper to keep people in.
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I've – from the videos I've seen, people are getting beat up because a lot of the ICE officers are, like, excessively using their power.
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And a lot of people are coming out traumatized.
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Well, I mean, if you're resisting arrest, the officers do have the leeway to use necessary force to affect an arrest.
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And if there are instances of actual brutality going on in detention facilities, I would stand next to you and say that that's completely wrong.
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There should – if you're being – if you're in a detention facility, you're arrested, you're whatever, you're in a holding cell, no, you shouldn't be abused.
02:12:25.520
Although sometimes people – like, for example, in not even immigration facilities but in, like, actual prisons, the inmates can, say, misbehave.
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They can cause issues, and that would, in some instances, give the guards the right to use force to stop what they're doing.
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Like, for example, if you're not being cooperative as an inmate, they can use an escalation of force.
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If you're an inmate and you, like – what's it called?
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Like, basically, they throw poop and shit on and piss.
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They make this, like, concoction, the inmates, and they'll throw it on the guards.
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And they're going to take you out of the cell by force.
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And they're going to put you in ADSEG, administrative segregation.
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So there are instances where these detainees, these illegal immigrant detainees, are going to encounter – perhaps they're being uncooperative.
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And sometimes the use of force is going to be justified.
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But if you could point to me to a situation where, hey, these – clearly, it's some sort of abuse of the detainees.
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However, if you're an illegal immigrant in the country, yeah, you can get the fuck out.
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But from videos that I have seen in the media, I do feel like there is an abuse of power.
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Well, do you think arresting people is an abuse of power?
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So I feel like if you are an illegal immigrant and you are here illegally,
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I do feel like you should be deported and have to come in the legal way.
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But I feel like the profiling people – and I've seen videos of some people get detained that are citizens.
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And I just feel like the profiling shouldn't be happening because there are a lot of immigrants that are here legally.
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And they should not be treated as illegal immigrants because they are here legally.
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Well, I think you can make an argument that – like, for example, a citizen who gets, like, detained or stopped by ICE
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and they're, like, just on the basis of their skin color or, you know, their ethnicity or whatever.
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I think that there are compelling arguments as to how that can be wrong.
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However, it seems to me, like, when it comes to the people who are against ICE and all the ICE protests,
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they just are – they're fine with the illegal immigration.
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Well, then I don't have all that much to debate, like, disagree with you on.
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If we're on the same page about illegal immigrants, then we're on the same page.
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I just feel like, yes, people should be treated as people and they should be treated fairly.
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Kirshner also states, one, her wheels were turned away from the ICE agent.
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Two, the ICE agent deliberately walked in front of the vehicle.
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Well, while we wait for that one, the ICE agent – well, she was stopped.
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So it's not like she was moving and then as justification so that he could later shoot her,
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he, like, jumped in front of the car as he was going.
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I think if you see the full length of his vantage point, he was, like, getting cell phone video of her license plate.
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I don't think that there's anything wrong there.
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The agent was hit by the vehicle, but it was absolutely a good shoot.
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He cracked off dot two splits one-handed while being hit by a car.
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Look, there's a lot of missing context in the sense of, like, how belligerent had she been being prior?
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Like, a lot of these people have been, like, following, stalking these ICE agents, right?
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So, look, that's not justification for a shooting, but to what degree was she being, like, a thorn in their side?
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Again, that's not a component of the justification, but, like, that would give us greater insight into, you know, what was going on the moments prior to the shooting.
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Pasty, do you have your continued coming in here?
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Maybe, hey, Grid One and Pasty George are going to have a debate in the Super Chats.
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If you hit a cop with a car, look, you can say it was at slow speed.
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If you hit a cop with a car, you're going to get shot.
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Like, there's a risk of you getting shot, at least.
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Four, the ICE agent was not hit as he was to the far left of the vehicle.
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Five, he called her effing be after shooting her, which will severely hurt him in court.
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You know, it's like, let's assume he did get hit.
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Like, yeah, if I, I don't know, some, I don't know, if in some situation I got my foot ran over or something.
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I might let out a few expletives out of pain or frustration or anger.
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I don't think that him calling her an effing be, you might, it's not a nice thing to do, I guess.
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But I think the bigger thing is obviously the shooting.
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But, I mean, I don't think that that's going to be particularly inculpatory.
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I feel like if this happened in a different state other than Minnesota, like, for instance,
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if it happened in Texas, this would not be a debate.
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You know, you're going after somebody, you're going to protect yourself.
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That's, that's something we do when we're in Texas, you know.
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The fact that we can't recognize that in another state of self-defense,
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So, to be charitable, I don't think she was trying to hit him.
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However, regardless of your intent, intent can have some implications.
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But, if somebody is the victim of vehicular manslaughter, well, intent would change whether
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it's vehicular homicide or vehicular manslaughter.
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But, from the law enforcement's perspective, regardless of what her intent is, it's kind
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of hard for us to know, you know, where his mind's at.
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So, regardless of the intent, because you can do things accidentally.
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Like, even if it's not your intention to do it, you could have just, oh, I'm trying to
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I'm definitely not, like, I think, again, to be charitable, she, I don't think she was
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I've read reports that this man was actually, prior to this incident happening, he was hit
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I don't know if this is true or not, but I did read reports on this.
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So, if this man has PTSD from already being hit by a car, and then he's hit by another
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car, what are your instincts going to be if you have PTSD for a situation like that?
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You're going to do anything to neutralize the threat, right?
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Especially when you're in a governmental force.
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And, I want to say, like, your disagreements with me.
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So, I'm not saying she should have been there at all, even though people protest, you know,
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He did, I heard that he got hit before this incident, and he did put himself in front of
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And, the video I saw, it looked like he was already on the side.
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She had backed up, turned her wheel, and then went.
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And, my personal opinion is, my personal question is, could he have moved away from the vehicle
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at the time she was backing up and turning before he even, like, she even drove off?
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And, it does put other people in danger if you do shoot a moving car, into a moving car.
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So, if you look at his dash body cam that they released, because that is public record,
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And, you also see him holding his phone, because that's part of his whole discovery that he
02:22:23.760
He shouldn't have been doing what he was doing.
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But, you do hear in that video, people are telling her to get out of the car.
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And, then you hear her partner saying, drive, drive, drive, go.
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You know, anybody who's in that situation, if you were there, and you were walking around
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just trying to get a little evidence, it's not cars coming at you, I'm shooting.
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So, you're saying he had already walked around the car?
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Because he, right, and he got her license plate?
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He got back and, she should have gotten out of the car.
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I think she should have gone and talked to the agents, because she was interfering with
02:23:06.880
Not everybody's mindset is the same, though, I feel like.
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And, I feel that, but, you know, when you're dealing with an authoritative figure,
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You can't just go and do whatever you want all the time.
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You've got to listen to the people who are running out of the country.
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My question was, like, could he, like I said, he put himself in front of the car after
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Or, she turned the wheel, or she backed up, turned the wheel, and then went forward.
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Could he have done something different by like?
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But, you also have to understand is, we, I think there's a tendency, not just in this
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instance, but in many other instances, where things happen in split seconds.
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Like, literally five seconds is basically the moment when she started moving the car
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And, so, it's very easy for us to slow down and zoom in on the various different angles
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And, first off, like, one of those angles is really, there's a police officer, like, in
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front, and it's kind of blocking the view of the shooting officer.
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It's very easy for us to sit here from the comfort of our own homes and, you know, being
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here, wherever you originally saw the video, who knows how long he'd been on shift.
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But, what happened was, he's in front of the car.
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It seemed, from my perspective, looks like he got hit.
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From his angle, definitely looks like he got hit.
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Do you think he's using the other situation to determine this event?
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Well, I think any time you have, how much do cars weigh?
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Any time, as a law enforcement officer, if you have a moving vehicle going towards you to someone who's clearly interfering with police operations,
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and they've been given a lawful order to exit the vehicle, and they're refusing to comply,
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you have to probably, you're probably going to make some assumptions.
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His past experience, I think, is kind of, I don't think his past experience is a detraction or a benefit to him.
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I think you could just judge this one on its own merits.
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If she really wanted to intentionally hit him, though, wouldn't she have just went forward instead of backing up and turning her will?
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Again, I'm willing to be charitable and say I don't think she, I think she's trying to get away.
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I don't think she had some malicious intent to hit him.
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But, regardless of your intent, if what ends up happening is you do strike a police officer.
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Like, for example, I'm trying to think of an example.
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Have you ever seen videos of people resisting arrest?
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And maybe they don't have an intent to, like, as they're struggling.
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Have you ever flailed your arm and, like, hit somebody accidentally?
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Have you ever been in bed with your husband and you, like, turn over and you smack him in the face?
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And, like, you kick your girlfriend or you kick your boyfriend accidentally, right?
02:27:28.300
Well, that's – I don't know if that's a good example.
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But in the case of a resisting arrest, if the person – resisting arrest on its own is a crime.
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But if through while you're resisting arrest you're, like, flailing your arms and you, like, smack the cop in the face, would you agree that it's possible that someone could be resisting arrest?
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And when they do, they flail their arm accidentally and they did not have the intention of hitting the officer in the face and breaking his nose?
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Okay, so regardless of the intent there, you're going to be charged with, um, battery on a law enforcement officer, assault on a police officer.
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Your ultimate final action was you did, in fact, hit the police officer.
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In that same vein, I don't think she was trying to hit the guy, but she did hit the guy.
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And from his perspective, he's less in tune with what her intention may or may not have been in that split second, cold as fuck, I don't know if it was, whatever, early, whatever.
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He's just seeing, oh, car moving forward towards me, she's being belligerent, blah, blah, blah.
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So what happens if I, like, raise my arm up and accidentally hit her in the face?
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No, I'm just saying, like, should she, like, I don't know, never mind.
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And I do agree that people resisting arrest shouldn't resist arrest.
02:29:07.100
Uh, anyways, we'll move it off of the, uh, illegal immigration talk.
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Uh, you say a lot of the ideals I have about women you strongly disagree with.
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I just know that you're much more right-leaning.
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Does anybody else here think I'm, I'm a misogynist or misogynistic?
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Don't, you guys don't need to wait for me to call on you.
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Just be like, oh yeah, Brian, you're, I think this.
02:30:13.760
Also, no, because I feel like even if there is clips, you can't really, like, because some
02:30:20.240
So you can't really base it off of like a, like a YouTube clip or an Instagram reel or
02:30:28.100
So we've got Abby with a maybe, but you have, you have a more strong position on that.
02:30:35.720
I think that is thinking that men are superior to women.
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So you'd have to use a different definition of a misogyny then.
02:30:50.900
I just think the way that you kind of talk about the submission.
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I don't, I'm not completely against submission because I think it depends on the dynamic
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But I just, I think that your perspective on how women should be automatically subservient
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Uh, well, I mean, I think it's a better dynamic in general and then at least in my own relationships.
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And I think in, for the sake of other people's relationships, I think it's a better dynamic,
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but look, people can negotiate their own dynamics.
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Like, I don't think that that's like great, you know, like that's an L.
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It doesn't have to be your thing, but why is it an L for the dude?
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Well, it's just so contrary to my own perspective.
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Is it not a little misogynistic that you think that that's.
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It can, if anything, it would be misandrist because I'm like, it's like an L for the
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guy, I guess like you're, you're, it would be misandrist in this way.
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You're less of a man because you let your woman peg you.
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Why do you think that that makes someone less of a man?
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Uh, well, I mean, what does it mean to be a man?
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Letting your woman, uh, dominate you in the bedroom.
02:32:24.720
I think, Hey, look, people are into whatever, all kinds of stuff, whatever it is.
02:32:30.160
I just, I just think that that's not a particularly masculine thing to let a woman penetrate your
02:32:36.240
So to each their own or whatever, but I just, it's not, not into it, you know, not into it
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I just, I just wanted to know like what your perspective was on that.
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Just the submission thing, the being submissive.
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But I've also only seen you like clipped and stuff.
02:33:14.700
I've never had an actual conversation with you.
02:33:17.580
You said, um, you disagree with the rating women.
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I think people will have beautiful qualities and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
02:33:32.620
So someone, you may think that a woman's ugly and another man may look at her and think
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she's the most beautiful thing that has ever walked this earth.
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I was like looking at something on my computer and I missed the trail in there.
02:33:56.880
You're saying like, I think it was, I think I caught most of it is basically there's one
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per, like somebody could be super ugly and then somebody else could think they're super
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It's always up to like the, the eye of the beholder.
02:34:07.060
So I think, whereas you may think that someone's unattractive.
02:34:15.260
I mean, there's like beauty standards, but someone that I may find unattractive, other
02:34:19.800
people may find very attractive, which happens.
02:34:22.300
I believe that that, that can exist, but I'm more interested in, uh, looking at perhaps
02:34:31.700
So what are the things, and you might not even be able to even articulate them, but like
02:34:38.020
there is something, when you look at somebody, you can make like a really pretty rapid fire
02:34:43.880
determination as to if they're attractive or not attractive or more attractive or less
02:34:52.860
What are the similar traits that supermodels possess?
02:34:55.880
Because there are things like, if you look at all the supermodels that there have ever
02:35:01.580
been, you'll start to know the certain patterns about like their facial, uh, symmetry, you'll
02:35:07.820
know the certain, um, uh, you know, certain things about it could be their body.
02:35:12.640
You'll know the certain things about facial harmony.
02:35:15.720
You'll know that certain things about skin clarity.
02:35:20.420
And you, you might not be able to like list those out and articulate them, but everybody
02:35:25.540
within them has a, some degree, a, a capacity to make really almost instantaneous either
02:35:32.820
conscious or subconscious determinations as to how attractive somebody is.
02:35:36.280
I think that there's definitely a beauty standard.
02:35:41.840
I just think it's kind of degrading to rate people and have them rate themselves.
02:35:45.300
I don't, I don't think it's, I think it, I don't think it's degrading.
02:35:54.400
I don't, but it's, it's, the truth is different for different people.
02:35:57.720
So how you rate them does not affect how other people may.
02:36:01.460
Well, so there is a, so for example, would you agree with this, uh, while I agree that
02:36:07.700
beauty is not strictly objective, like, but I don't think it's strictly subjective either
02:36:13.980
in the sense that like in the philosophical sense of what is objective, what is subjective
02:36:20.260
Uh, there are, for example, is it objectively true that there is universe, that there will
02:36:27.640
be near universal agreement as to who is deemed attractive.
02:36:37.560
There is going to be a more popular, like, to the beauty standard.
02:36:41.300
Like, for example, um, who do you think is a guy, well, I know you're a lesbian, but who's
02:36:46.700
a man who you think is, like, you might not be into him, but you think he's like, whoa,
02:37:09.520
I can't think of what he looks like off the top of my head.
02:37:15.820
Have you seen, uh, what's the Benjamin Button movie?
02:37:20.520
Have you seen, uh, oh my God, why am I blanking on these movies?
02:37:29.200
Damn, bro, you gotta watch some movies or something.
02:37:44.460
I wish you knew who I was talking about so you could reference.
02:37:46.760
Here, can you Google the, did you Google the guy?
02:37:48.680
I feel like Somber's like objectively attractive though.
02:37:59.100
But like beauty standard wise, I feel like he's kind of.
02:38:04.620
That a majority of people would agree that he's attractive.
02:38:24.900
And then like when a woman likes a guy who's like a singer or some bullshit, like.
02:38:46.440
But see, you're able to make a determination just almost instant.
02:38:50.440
Well, I guess instantly that you can create a hierarchy of who you think is more or less
02:38:58.320
Like there are some men, even though you're a lesbian, who you think are more attractive.
02:39:08.600
So your, your objection to the rating system is, it's just a hierarchy.
02:39:15.660
Like if somber for you is a 10 and maybe I'm a five or I don't know if maybe you give him
02:39:21.280
an eight and you might not put a number on it, but it's somewhere, it's somewhere deep
02:39:38.800
Maybe you can't like name one, but would you acknowledge that there are men who are more
02:39:42.200
physically attractive than somber from your perspective, right?
02:39:45.380
And then are there men who are less attractive than somber, but more attractive than me?
02:39:52.660
So you have guy more attractive than somber, somber guy, less attractive than somber, and
02:40:00.260
Now we're able to, now somewhere deep in your lizard brain, you might not.
02:40:03.920
You, you might not be able to like actually articulate what the number rating is, but
02:40:11.740
I think that the only difference is that I don't, I wouldn't verbalize it.
02:40:20.000
I mean, I don't have like a number system, but you would do this with eight.
02:40:28.000
To an extent, but I have a very broad type in women.
02:40:34.180
There's, there's a wide variety of types and women and they can come in different shapes
02:40:38.920
and whatever, and they can all still be attractive.
02:40:41.520
But I would never like take my exes and like leave them.
02:40:58.420
Do you have, as a lesbian, do you prefer any of Zeroudis?
02:41:14.680
Can you raise your fist with us for a moment of silence?
02:41:35.320
I mean, I would like to keep them in jars, I guess.
02:41:37.620
Like, if I just had a collection, that'd be kind of sad, though.
02:41:43.500
They probably put in, like, perfume or something.
02:41:46.320
Like, don't they use men's, like, when they circumcise men?
02:41:53.920
Oh, they put in anti-women's anti-aging creams.
02:42:00.460
But so, okay, you have, when it comes from women.
02:42:07.420
Just show of hands, who here has a large labia?
02:43:07.780
Yeah, but I just want to say, if there's any woman here who's ever felt self-conscious about their labia, don't get it chopped off.
02:43:19.640
You'll find a guy who's a big fan, who's all for it, who's all in, who's all in on the big labia.
02:43:27.760
You know, look, some guys don't like them, but when you find a guy who likes them, he'll really like, because the guys who, like, I don't know, I feel like the guys who like innies, like, they don't care.
02:43:44.320
Like, it doesn't, like, yeah, having sex feels good, but, like, if you're with a guy who likes a girl with a big labia, he really, he rides for you.
02:43:55.120
He rides, he likes you a lot, I'm just going to say.
02:44:03.280
Like, I'll even, if she has a world record labia, I'll give her a pass on a few things.
02:44:09.840
She doesn't have to be submissive if she has a really big...
02:44:13.060
She doesn't have to be submissive, but, like, I'll give her a pass on a couple things, you know?
02:44:17.520
Like, she can go to the club if she's got a massive labia?
02:44:20.360
If she has a giant labia once a year, she can go to the club.
02:44:27.260
Yes, the bigger the labia, the bigger the outing, I guess, yeah.
02:44:54.160
Just really quick, before we get into the next topic here...
02:44:57.680
I noticed that you guys have some plastic surgery.
02:45:20.940
Do you guys have photos of yourselves before the plastic surgery that I could see?
02:46:06.240
Nose job, like, two times because the first time was botched.
02:46:21.200
Oh, I have, like, fillers on my cheeks and Botox on the chin.
02:46:41.720
Oh, like, I'm consulting the hospital, like, maybe implants, but I'm still consulting.
02:48:24.340
Your high school cheer that you guys did or whatever.
02:48:48.140
You know, you guys were about to be scouted by like the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders if you
02:48:59.660
I actually want to try out for them when I'm 21.
02:49:11.040
You can't sit on your butt for like weeks or something.
02:49:26.420
She said she couldn't sit for like two months after getting it.
02:49:38.720
My position on flowers, jobs, and breast augmentation is quite simple.
02:50:02.740
He did write boob jobs, but it like the program that we use will like change words or whatever.
02:50:23.800
I think everyone has like different preference, and I really respect that.
02:50:34.060
Let's just do the rating segment then since she's not a fan of it.
02:50:42.160
But, okay, well, I guess going around the table, what do you rate your looks, and we're
02:50:49.540
going to do, give me three ratings, your looks on a scale of zero to ten, so tell me your
02:50:54.640
face rating, your body rating, and total, everything total, starting with you.
02:51:07.060
We'll accept as the average seven, but face, body, it can't be seven.
02:51:11.820
I would say my body is an eight, and my face is a six, so I say seven, personally.
02:51:21.800
We'll say, wait, so let's do face, body, total.
02:51:36.120
I think my face is a nine, and I think my body is an eight.
02:51:46.160
I'm not really that confident, so I'm just going to have to say, like, five, and five,
02:52:11.400
Maybe, like, five, and then five, another five.
02:52:34.660
A little bit high for some, but nothing, no tens, but we do have Morgan.
02:52:59.740
Rate your personality on a scale of zero to ten.
02:53:54.500
I just think I'm a nice, funny, fun-to-be-around person.
02:53:57.840
Like, I, I don't know, I've never had people say, like, people who are, like, actually, like,
02:54:03.120
close with me and friends with me, I've never had them say anything bad about my personality,
02:54:10.240
I think you guys need to be more confident and, like, rate yourselves more, personally.
02:54:19.280
I mean, you can be confident, but you don't got to be cocky.
02:54:24.200
So, I think, I mean, everybody, everybody could have gone higher with their ratings.
02:54:28.440
With their looks ratings or with their personality?
02:54:30.760
I mean, I don't know their personality, so I can't say that.
02:54:34.700
I don't think, I think everybody was wrong on their looks.
02:54:38.420
I think everybody's looks definitely need to be, like, way higher than they were.
02:54:42.220
But I can't really speak on personality because I don't really know.
02:54:48.620
I give myself 4.5, 4.5, 4.5 across the board, I guess.
02:55:16.720
Abby, your friend, she rated herself a 6, 666 across the board in looks.
02:55:22.740
What do you think she should have rated herself?
02:55:35.040
Somebody else could rate me a 10, though, easily.
02:55:38.860
I don't like to think too much that I'm a 10 because, I don't know, that's just me personally,
02:55:55.400
And Morgan, your friend Alice here, Alice gave herself a 5 across the board?
02:56:00.880
Do you think she was too low with her looks rating?
02:56:11.400
I mean, obviously, people have types, but I think there's hundreds of people out there
02:56:14.880
that will look at her and be like, yeah, that's a 10.
02:56:21.740
And I think there's a lot of guys out there, and girls,
02:56:24.620
who will look at all these women and say the same thing.
02:56:27.440
I think they're just not confident enough in themselves.
02:56:32.800
I feel like they need to build more confidence to be able to, like, 5s.
02:56:36.620
Like, I feel like all you guys are definitely more than 5s.
02:56:40.380
Well, to be clear, on the scale that I'm using, so 5 would be, that's average.
02:56:58.420
Everyone has at least something slightly that could be redeeming.
02:57:01.800
And I don't think every, I think anybody, you could probably find some sort of flaw,
02:57:11.760
So, but I think it would be confidence to just be like, yeah, I'm a 5.
02:57:25.780
I mean, maybe if you're really confident in it, but.
02:57:34.340
I mean, I feel like somebody else could think I'm higher.
02:57:44.640
Does thinking you're a 10, is that the same as being a 10?
02:57:54.400
So, would you agree that there is a difference?
02:57:58.560
Like, somebody could think they're a 10, but not be a 10, right?
02:58:03.060
Somebody could think that, but in my eyes, if I could.
02:58:05.280
I mean, it depends on who's, like, who's looking at them.
02:58:09.040
And somebody else who also, like, has that interest in, like, that type could be like,
02:58:15.100
Or somebody else who has a complete polar opposite type would be like, no, that's not
02:58:21.340
So, I think it just depends on, like, who is, like, who the perspective is coming from.
02:58:27.960
Going around the table, what do you rate your intelligence on a scale of 0 to 10?
02:58:59.060
People could say, you know, different types of intelligence, you know, emotional intelligence,
02:59:07.020
academic intelligence, other kinds of intelligence.
02:59:30.660
Well, there's a free one that, like a Norway Mensa, Mensa.
02:59:34.340
And these IQ tests, you can take different ones and they'll vary, which is kind of, I don't
02:59:48.300
So, I don't know if it was reflective of my true IQ.
02:59:58.780
In the Discord, in the wall of whatever, if you scroll up, scroll up, I have receipts.
03:00:22.000
And you'll notice, 5.52 a.m., November 17th, 20th, this is a, I was in bed and I took
03:00:43.040
We took one in high school and mine was 140, which is kind of crazy.
03:00:51.420
But I think yours might be higher than 120 or whatever it is.
03:00:58.460
If mine was accurate, then yours would definitely be higher.
03:01:01.680
But if your test was accurate, then mine would be wrong.
03:01:14.120
For the viewers watching in the chat, in the chat, what's your IQ?
03:01:25.040
Well, I guess some of you are going to be two-digit number IQ.
03:02:27.700
What do you rate your humor on the scale of 0 to 10?
03:03:26.980
Well, are we talking stand-up, or are we just talking general humor?
03:03:48.320
I mean, I think you gotta say Dave Chappelle is way up there.
03:04:27.660
You mog the shit out of Morgan with your humor?
03:04:46.280
I would say 8 because the things that I find funny are really funny to me.
03:04:53.520
But when I think of humor, like humor is not a passive thing.
03:05:05.520
Okay, so sense of humor would be your ability to detect humor.
03:05:13.620
No, when I think of humor, I'm like you make people laugh.
03:05:24.320
I think there is a difference between sense of humor.
03:05:28.040
I mean, some people would use sense of humor to mean like that person's funny.
03:05:36.020
I think there's a difference between humor and your sense of humor.
03:05:42.060
But I think people use that shit interchangeably.
03:05:51.800
And it doesn't just go over your head and you laugh at shit.
03:05:56.840
But that's different than being funny yourself.
03:06:06.640
It just doesn't land where it's supposed to be.
03:06:39.300
But are you willing to date an average man, average person?
03:06:52.760
Like, so, you know, just an average Taiwanese guy.
03:07:09.500
You probably out-earn a lot of, like, Taiwanese...
03:07:22.680
So, I feel like you probably make pretty good money.
03:08:53.080
And you're taller than the average woman, too, so...
03:08:56.860
I mean, you could argue, like, so, okay, 5'4'' is the average for a woman.
03:09:02.000
If 5'10'' is the average for a guy, you could argue you could push for six feet.
03:09:08.400
And even that could be fair, although that's only, like, 15% of men.
03:09:33.640
Singapore's, like, super wealthy country, right?
03:09:38.340
It is a small country, but it is a wealthy country.
03:09:45.500
Do you have, like, preference in terms of dating?
03:09:51.020
Like, do you prefer white guys or black guys or...
03:09:53.920
I have not dated white or black guys, but, like, Asians.
03:10:06.780
Where, like, in terms of, you know, where the Asian men fall?
03:10:12.300
Like, in terms of the type of guy, in terms of their personality, their looks, that you
03:10:17.880
think are most attractive in the Asian countries?
03:10:22.180
Japan, Vietnam, the Philippines, Laos, Cambodia, Mongolia.
03:10:31.240
Where do you think are the hottest Asian dudes?
03:10:35.440
That sounded kind of gay, but where are the hottest Asian dudes?
03:11:02.020
Like, I mean, in terms of appearance, maybe, like, Koreans, but I think, like, it still boils
03:11:08.180
down to their personality, like, if they're funny and crazy.
03:11:19.860
I think Japanese guys, like, a little bit too shy for me.
03:11:52.560
I don't know really much about that world, but...
03:11:58.260
Or did we need to finish off on the looks thing?
03:11:59.860
Do you guys want me to give you a super surgical, medical, maybe not medical, but medical, analytical
03:12:27.760
I've written down some notes on the all of you.
03:12:46.460
Even if we disagreed on topics earlier in the convo, I'm not going to maliciously rate
03:13:12.740
We're going to start with the mandibular definition.
03:13:18.180
You know, the lower third, it does read a bit on the soft side from a frontal view.
03:13:22.760
So, you know, I do think that there's a higher appearing gonial angle.
03:13:39.880
The mid-face ratio, this is a bit minor, but it's...
03:14:13.320
Your facial width to height ratio is a little bit, like, slightly weak, I would say.
03:14:27.080
There's a bit of facial imbalance ever so slightly.
03:15:10.220
Overall, good eye area, but really weak, poor under eye area.
03:15:14.160
You know, the bags, a bit of discoloration, not matching skin color, poor under eye area.
03:15:28.560
That's, you know, unbalanced facial thirds, somewhat weak, lower third, weak, lower third.
03:15:37.720
Have a bit of skin patchiness, a bit of skin redness.
03:15:41.360
There's more, but I think I'll leave it at that.
03:15:46.840
That'll help in the face area, help in the body area.
03:15:59.020
I'm not going to do performance enhancing drugs, you know?
03:16:07.480
Somebody said high chroma irises with generally clean scleral field.
03:16:31.320
Beard materially limits analysis of gonion ramus outline and true mandibular angle.
03:16:55.520
I think your interpupillary distance is, like, slightly less, like, on the below average
03:17:09.740
I don't understand any of the terms you're using.
03:17:19.560
It looks like you have, like, I think just a neutral canthal tilt a little bit.
03:17:36.820
I think I already said, like, slightly disproportionate facial thirds.
03:18:07.680
I mean, I feel like it's kind of weird to, like...
03:18:33.320
She has really good symmetry, and I think the eyebrows are actually really good.
03:18:55.440
Hey, some of you guys in the chat, a little too high.
03:19:06.020
I don't even think I could give you a rating to...
03:19:13.000
And you have had quite a bit of plastic surgery, right?
03:19:19.720
With the masking, if you're wearing too much makeup...
03:19:29.340
It is hard when you're wearing the makeup, and it does have an impact on the ability to
03:20:16.180
Maybe at the end of the show, everybody can remove their makeup.
03:20:41.220
It could be anywhere from, like, 5.5 to 6.5 in that region.
03:20:46.260
I'd probably err closer to the 6.5 than the 5.5.
03:21:30.580
You have a positive canthal tilt, slightly though.
03:21:40.820
You have, like, more innocent eyes, which are more typical in, like, for...
03:21:45.460
Well, white people can have innocent eyes, but you typically see, like, the innocent feline eyes in, like, Asian women.
03:21:54.440
You have, to some degree, more hunter-feline eyes.
03:22:20.400
You have overall feminine craniofacial dimorphism.
03:22:33.180
Well, not quite a bit, but the makeup does kind of impact the ability to do an assessment.
03:23:16.480
Still strong nose from both the front and the side.
03:23:33.820
It's really not that bad, but mild upper eyelid exposure.
03:24:22.060
You know, she might even be able to edge out to 7.2.
03:24:32.580
Well, so, like, ideally, when it comes to assessments of beauty, you want as little upper eyelid exposure as possible.
03:24:49.760
Like, these are maybe taking off, like, 0.1 or something.
03:25:07.560
I mean, yeah, if you think it's a good rating, then...
03:25:27.240
You know, I got some notes, but I'll just try to do a...
03:25:32.820
I'd say a bit of skin clarity could be improved.
03:25:45.360
You have a pretty slight, very minor bump in your nose, but it's pretty minimal.
03:25:50.640
Otherwise, and I mean, honestly, like, the frontal nose, I actually, I think it's quite
03:25:56.860
strong, and you'll give your sons strong noses.
03:26:05.140
You'll give your sons strong masculine noses, I guess.
03:26:10.320
I don't know if you want to take that as a compliment or whatever, but let's see.
03:26:19.640
Interpupillary distance, a little bit off, a bit of round face, a little bit.
03:26:44.800
I don't think there's any major, major, like, asymmetry.
03:26:55.720
I think decent, yeah, symmetry, decent, decent harmony.
03:26:59.940
Uh, slightly unbalanced facial thirds, uh, mid-face ratio, very minor, uh, slightly mid-face
03:27:14.820
Um, you have, uh, you do have a bit stronger than hers upper eyelid exposure.
03:27:20.580
Very, very, it's, it's not major, but you have more than her.
03:27:29.720
You have, uh, you have a bit of limited angularity, um, in terms of the, the lower third jaw area.
03:27:43.720
Uh, overall rating, I think I'd just give you, honestly, um, maybe like 4.75.
03:28:04.720
Uh, yeah, I think you, you might be slightly lower, but I said 4.75.
03:28:46.080
All right, you, can you take your glasses off for this segment?
03:29:03.380
Let me give you just my, just, knee-jerk reaction here.
03:29:10.760
Uh, the septum piercing, I know that's not, like, that can be removed or whatever, but,
03:29:20.640
You should also get rid of the other nose piercing.
03:29:24.680
Um, just, hey, if you want, hey, you want to level, you want to, looks max?
03:29:32.560
We're going to, we're going to ascend these girls.
03:29:37.100
Now, that, now that, obviously, your glasses don't, um, you look the way you look, whether
03:29:42.440
you're wearing glasses or not, but if you just want, like, a really quick thing to, like,
03:29:45.980
bolster your looks up, contacts, contacts, but that's besides the point.
03:29:54.940
That's going to be, like, the lower third of your face, so your jaw, chin area, a bit
03:30:01.400
You do have, uh, striking eyes, strong eyes, uh, a bit too much scleral show.
03:30:07.800
So that's the white of the eyes, uh, which isn't necessarily bad if you have more, like,
03:30:15.600
You don't have, like, hunter-feline eyes like her.
03:30:17.800
You have hunter, or you have, uh, innocent feline eyes.
03:30:21.720
Um, the, I would say the eyebrows, they're a little bit, they, a little bit weak.
03:30:36.520
I'll just, uh, I'd say above average lips, strong lower lip, upper lip could be a bit
03:30:45.320
bigger, uh, but it's still, it's still, I'd say above average, slightly above average
03:30:57.800
Uh, you gotta get rid of the septum piercing though.
03:31:16.340
Just, oh, you're just gonna, like, isn't there, just, like, flip it up in there, Abby.
03:31:27.780
It looks like, just, I can't, my nails are so long.
03:31:45.760
Just, like, put your fingers in and just, like, just tuck it.
03:31:50.780
Just act like you're trying to push your finger back up there.
03:31:56.260
I think you're just too, like, it's not wide enough to flip up in there.
03:31:59.420
But, regardless, you can flip them up in there, but.
03:32:05.040
So, I guess total rating, I think I would put you, um, hmm.
03:32:13.640
You might, I want to give you a 4.8, maybe a 4.9.
03:32:43.960
It's gonna, it's gonna make things a little difficult.
03:32:45.960
I have to go off of your, after the plastic surgery.
03:32:49.400
We should get you guys, uh, at some point to get your phones.
03:32:51.960
And you can maybe show us your, send us your, like, before photos so we can compare.
03:33:20.980
I would say, okay, so I'd say very strong, definitely strong above average lips.
03:33:25.220
Uh, your bottom lip could be, your, your top lip is actually a bit larger than your bottom lip.
03:33:31.920
And so, typically, you want, uh, you want the lip ratio, the bottom lip, to be a little bit bigger.
03:33:38.340
Both your lips are good, but you're, in terms of the ratio, the lip ratio is a little bit off.
03:33:43.160
So, either you'd probably just want, like, a slightly bigger, lower lip.
03:33:47.280
But I would not encourage you to get lip filler.
03:34:00.060
Although you wear, you are wearing the color contacts.
03:34:02.820
But good eye area, I'd say you have, uh, what's it called?
03:34:07.280
Uh, the innocent feline eyes, uh, which is typically more common in people who are Asian.
03:34:26.680
Uh, me personally, I'm typically not a fan of cosmetic work when it comes to plastic surgery.
03:34:34.800
I, I personally don't like the, the, um, plastic surgery, uh, thing or whatever.
03:34:41.120
But, hey, that's my own, that's my own preference.
03:34:44.060
Um, so, what, what can you really say about that?
03:34:47.840
Uh, and, yeah, I, I think I'd give you, what did I give you?
03:35:09.320
Okay, I'd get, if, if I gave her, it was 6.5 to 7?
03:35:38.280
All right, uh, so, I mean, this is actually interesting,
03:35:40.640
because we can do a bit of a comparison here, a little bit.
03:35:54.440
Uh, I think your eyes are a bit lighter than your sister's eyes.
03:35:57.900
I actually think your eyebrows are a bit stronger.
03:36:03.260
Um, lower third, a little bit weak, so your chin, jaw area, a little bit on the weak side.
03:36:09.140
Uh, good facial harmony, good facial symmetry, uh, feminine face overall.
03:36:13.860
Well, striking eyes, good eyes, uh, very limited upper eyelid exposure.
03:36:24.360
You don't, you have very minimal, uh, well, a little bit of the, you know, the red, redness
03:36:29.180
and knives, but that, that can be because you were traveling today or whatever.
03:36:34.840
Uh, I'd give you, oh boy, this is going to cause some conflict.
03:36:40.680
Like, I think, uh, you slightly mog your sister a little bit.
03:36:49.680
I, I think I'd give you a five to a 5.25, maybe even a 5.5.
03:36:58.700
Uh, and, uh, yeah, I got to blast through these cause this is, this segment takes way
03:37:06.520
Uh, I can't even, I'm going to have to look in the, the, the, actually, can I just, all
03:37:13.520
You do have nice blue eyes, uh, strong eye area.
03:37:29.660
So I have to assume that maybe it's under the makeup.
03:37:34.760
I have like two or three problems, but that's it.
03:37:53.880
Uh, I, I think I'd give you, it's, I think easier to just do range than.
03:38:04.400
Well, really quick, just on the mid, the, the facial thirds, I think, uh, maybe like
03:38:13.540
Uh, so, uh, the lower facial third, uh, perhaps a bit unequal, uh, top facial third, a bit unequal
03:38:24.540
Uh, strong, strong jawline, strong ramus, uh, strong sexual dimorphism.
03:38:36.300
You guys will have to Google this after the show.
03:38:37.920
Uh, I, I think I'd give you, uh, maybe a 5.5 to a 6.5, somewhere in that range.
03:38:45.640
I think maybe a 5.75, maybe possibly getting up to a 6.
03:38:52.980
I was going to get it too, I thought, in my head, y'all.
03:39:13.960
Um, I'm not, we already did it, so I'm not going to rate you, but, uh, I think Alina's
03:39:33.360
I think we, wouldn't I give you a 7 last time, Alina?
03:40:29.940
Like, is she a, like, is she a, is she a Moscow 5?
03:40:37.340
Look, I don't make these rules, but she would be about average.
03:40:46.360
I'll tell you what, I'll say, um, you guys are all, uh, Alabama 10s.
03:41:05.680
Wait, isn't Kansas right next, like, pretty close to Alabama?
03:41:23.380
We're in the Midwest, in the middle of the U.S.
03:41:35.740
We make fun of people from Arkansas, too, in Kansas.
03:41:53.760
Mississippi, Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma, and then Kansas.
03:41:59.620
You got a thicker southern accent than Alabama does.
03:42:38.120
You sound like a breath of fresh air, baby girl.
03:42:44.160
I want to say it's like a cool breeze on a warm summer day.
03:45:19.120
Let me tell you, it's not that far from Alabama.
03:46:19.000
Or, yeah, I'm not justifying beating women either.
03:47:26.260
It could be Hermes, so you'll be okay with that, right?
03:47:29.260
Yes, I'm okay with the Gucci saddle or whatever.
03:47:33.180
I'm not even sure what we're talking about this one.
03:47:39.240
For the perfect guy, would you be a slave to him?
03:47:52.780
She'll be okay with it, but she'll argue about sleeping in the sleep.
03:48:53.000
All I hear is like that one song, you want to guess the color of my underwear.
03:49:23.380
She has hypnotic eyes, and her face is so, like, symmetrical and just pleasuring.
03:49:32.200
We're going to get into the rest of the notes here.
03:49:51.340
And I don't know if that was just, like, a misunderstanding, or...
03:50:58.260
Yes, but I think we should wait until everybody's back, maybe, from the table.
03:51:02.480
So, we have a couple girls here who do OnlyFans.
03:52:00.580
This is for the whole panel, but I feel like the women who are OnlyFans girls need to pay a special attention.
03:52:20.620
So, I think in society, whether you're a sex worker, you're the OnlyFans, or you're just a normal gal from Alabama, or Kansas, or Detroit, Michigan, or Flint, Michigan, or whatever part of Michigan you guys are from.
03:52:41.620
Maybe you've been offered money for, like, feet pics or some weird shit like that.
03:52:45.280
Or some guy was just like, oh, here's 20 bucks.
03:52:49.960
They just give you money just because you're a woman.
03:52:52.620
Now, this is definitely true for the OnlyFans girls.
03:52:55.380
They just give you money to send you messages on OnlyFans, to get access to your private shit or whatever, to get custom stuff, whatever.
03:53:03.140
So, I want, just as a fun novelty, as a novelty, I would like, and when I say I would like, I demand to stick up.
03:53:15.400
But, I want you guys, all of you, whether you do OnlyFans or don't, because, you know, all these guys are simping and just giving you money.
03:53:22.700
Just as a little funny, ha-ha, funny, funny, you can, like, say, like, a bucket list, you know, before you die, I want to do this at least once.
03:53:34.680
Before I die, I want to, you know, give Brian money.
03:53:48.560
You're traveling in the U.S., you don't got a little cash?
03:54:50.980
Can I go pee while she's checking for $2 bills?
03:55:18.320
Would you guys have sex with Donald Trump to prevent World War III?
03:55:22.820
To prevent World War III, I guess I'd take one for the team, guys.
03:55:27.660
It would be horrible, but I would take one for the team.
03:55:35.220
Would you have sex with Donald Trump to prevent World War III?
03:55:45.460
Don't prevent all those people dying in the war.
03:55:51.820
Like, I support Trump, whatever, but that just makes me want to throw it.
03:56:01.620
Can I make him like a pocket pussy or something?
03:56:17.260
Would you have sex with Donald Trump to prevent World War III?
03:56:25.640
But, like, the thing is, I don't want to, like, do the deed ever.
03:56:45.720
It's probably going to be a three-minute wonder.
03:56:50.580
I mean, he's an old man and we're all three minutes.
03:56:55.620
To prevent World War III, would you have sex with Donald Trump?
03:56:59.840
To prevent World War III, would you have sex with Donald J. Trump?
03:57:19.320
So, the reason I wouldn't do it is because I'm a young woman with my whole future ahead of me.
03:57:23.500
I do not want to be with a guy that is older than all of my family members combined.
03:57:41.480
Like, you think it would be like an hour, a few minutes?
03:57:45.640
A few minutes of your life to save the whole world.
03:57:53.640
Has anyone had sex with more than two guys in a 24-hour period?
03:58:35.700
Because during days when I have my period, I really hate it.
03:58:38.960
I was asking if they would have sex with Donald Trump.
03:58:42.840
So I stepped away for a moment, but I did overhear some weird, some crazy question.
03:59:36.720
I'm not super political, but I did vote liberal.
03:59:44.260
So obviously, when it comes to politics, you're...
03:59:46.720
Seems like you're probably more left-leaning, more liberal.
03:59:49.360
Would you like to live in a world where your worldview, your perspective, your politics
04:00:02.000
Would you, let's say for the next hundred years, you could guarantee Democrat presidents
04:00:08.580
or even like you might disagree with some Democrat stuff.
04:00:12.980
You might say like a true leftist president for a hundred years and political, complete
04:00:40.340
And I was thinking like, okay, let me make it gay, like gay though, like for me.
04:00:44.660
Like, so would I, or chat, this is the question for the viewers and maybe for the women here
04:00:52.660
Like, would I, Brian, who we're going to get into the oral sex topic here in a sec.
04:00:58.800
As someone who's not, you know, typically a much of a fan of that.
04:01:02.600
And you think, you, you actually think it's gay.
04:01:06.920
Um, would I, would I give, this is, this is going to sound super gay, but whatever chat,
04:01:15.320
Uh, to see my political will enacted in this country or even in the world,
04:01:23.640
undeniably would I suck Donald Trump's dick to completion chat.
04:01:43.020
To, to get what you want politically in the world, in the USA, would you suck Donald Trump's
04:02:07.680
No, look, I am, I am comfortable in my sexuality.
04:02:22.400
I mean, what we have to go for because of Diddy.
04:02:38.120
Like, think about how much better the country would be.
04:02:44.460
What about, wait, wait, wait, chat, let me change it, chat, let me change it.
04:02:49.900
Okay, chat, would you suck dick, would you suck dick, and you get to be dictator for
04:02:57.640
the rest of your life, and you, you cannot be, you cannot be deposed, not, not dictator,
04:03:04.400
king, you're a fucking emperor, fucking god, king, emperor of the United States.
04:03:09.020
Nobody can depose you, fucking total power, total, yeah, total power, but you gotta suck
04:03:31.820
By the way, if you're like, you can obviously be as corrupt as you possibly want, so it's
04:03:35.800
like, you gotta suck dick once, but now you're like the richest man in the world, because
04:03:39.880
you're like the fucking leader, you're the fucking dick taker.
04:03:43.700
Like, I'll just, oh, uh, let's just, let's just, um, what, wait, what's the term when
04:03:49.720
you take a company that's privately held and you, wait, fuck, what's the term?
04:04:10.840
When the, when a, when a government takes, what is the term for when they nationalize
04:04:27.240
We are going to, now, the government takes over, when the government takes over a company,
04:04:46.920
Would you still, would you still do it if people knew that that's what you did?
04:04:52.000
People knew that you sucked the, the, the penis.
04:04:58.460
Everybody knows that that's how you got the power.
04:05:01.960
Look, I, but see, people will like murder other people for power.
04:05:15.640
No, no, no, I'm saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, it could be worse for me.
04:05:18.900
But I'm saying like, murdering is definitely worse than homosexual dick sucking.
04:05:31.920
Well, I'm glad you're cool with sucking a little dick.
04:05:39.280
I'll just make sure any time that is presented to me as an option, I'll call you, Brian.
04:05:44.500
Alright, I think I just, I don't know if, I don't know, chat, like, come on, you're not
04:06:00.420
I don't know, you got to be a team player, you know.
04:06:07.380
Like, wouldn't all the conservatives in the chat, if I did this, and I was like, okay,
04:06:11.940
well now, I have all this power, we're just, it's just going to be conservative rule.
04:06:17.860
Might as well just call yourself a type of rule.
04:06:19.620
I would deport, you know, we deport all the illegal immigrants, like, total, total power.
04:06:25.200
You guys wouldn't be like, look, Brian, you're a little gay, but we get it.
04:06:31.680
I would rather you murder someone than do that.
04:06:34.480
Like, chat, wouldn't you be like, look, Brian, you're kind of gay now, but like, thank you,
04:06:39.920
You know, like, wouldn't you be like, thanks, Brian?
04:06:48.740
But they, I feel like they would also, you know what I mean?
04:06:57.360
My chat's a bit of a, my chat's a bit of a tough crowd.
04:07:14.320
Would you suck a dick to save your child's life?
04:07:20.740
Like, you, in order to save your child's life, you've got to suck a dick.
04:07:24.400
Yes, I would do anything if I had a child to save a dick.
04:07:31.260
You're not going to, oh, you fucking pieces of shit won't suck a dick to save your child's
04:07:40.380
Yeah, but I'm saying, to save your kid's life, would you suck a dick?
04:07:49.300
And he's, by the way, it's not like he just, if you don't suck the dick, he just, like,
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Like, I don't know, something terrible happens to the fucking kid.
04:08:00.680
I feel like a lot of terrible things happen every day to everybody.
04:08:04.080
We can't stop the terrible things from happening.
04:08:15.800
Mary, what do we, oh, let's, before we get into that thing, Mary, there's a, I think somebody
04:08:26.740
It's, I want, it's related to the looks thing a little bit, so I figure we talk about it.
04:08:45.580
It was a, uh, so Jake Shields, uh, he posted this, and you, so you quote tweeted it.
04:08:54.820
How, is, y'all have to show me proof I wrote that.
04:09:03.140
Unless it's somebody, unless it's your Twitter.
04:09:37.240
So, look, I think, hey, you shouldn't body shame people.
04:09:46.380
Jake Shields, you, you say Jake Shields was body shaming.
04:09:49.160
But, I mean, look, hey, maybe, maybe there's something to be said for, hey, maybe we shouldn't
04:09:55.140
make fun of people, whatever, whatever, whatever.
04:10:08.300
I don't see anything wrong with her body, though.
04:10:10.660
I don't see anything wrong with her body, though.
04:10:14.040
As a chubby guy, you know, like, how black people can call each other the N-word?
04:10:19.880
Like, because I'm a little bit chubby, I kind of get the fat pass.
04:10:25.700
Like, if you're skinny, you can't call somebody fat.
04:10:41.900
That's so relevant to the conversation at hand.
04:10:58.380
I think, you know, she's a bit overweight, you know?
04:11:17.460
If you was to give her a number, I guarantee you somebody in that chat is going to give
04:11:24.220
She looks like she has an hourglass with a little bit of extra, like.
04:11:29.640
If hourglass is misshaped and all fucked up, it's fucked up.
04:11:35.240
They can have skinny burgers and they can have bigger burgers.
04:12:07.040
Maybe we could find like a fucked up, like an artistic hourglass.
04:12:18.300
Maybe like a impressionist, like a fucking Picasso hourglass or some shit.
04:12:39.280
Do you have to go like this to get to her curves?
04:12:48.220
Like an hourglass does this, and then it goes back out.
04:12:57.380
Like, here, pull up the photo again real quick.
04:13:06.800
I'm sorry, that, but she's multiple hourglasses.
04:13:14.960
She's multiple hourglasses arranged in a unique way.
04:13:23.180
Okay, so when you think, okay, hourglass, what it's trying to get at, big boobs, thin waist, big hips, big ass.
04:13:35.620
But her waist comes back out, and it goes back in at her hips.
04:13:45.320
If she'd worked out a little bit, she'd be snatched, like, very easily.
04:13:56.680
You're going to get – I'm going to start calling you lady.
04:14:27.240
You disagree that women doing OnlyFans means she has low value.
04:14:31.140
You write, continue to write, men consume that content more than anyone, so clearly someone
04:14:38.200
So when you say you disagree that women doing OnlyFans means she has low value, you're,
04:14:46.640
of course, referencing from a dating perspective, right?
04:14:51.440
I mean, some people have even told me just for the fact that I have an OnlyFans, my opinion
04:14:59.160
And, like, they were – like, OnlyFans is, like, the very lowest society.
04:15:05.180
Well, in terms of – so I think, logically, you wouldn't be able to discount – like, so
04:15:13.720
a woman who is a sex worker who does OnlyFans, you cannot discount her opinion simply by virtue
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Now, if an OnlyFans girl's – girl, excuse me, has a really stupid opinion on something,
04:15:32.700
you can discount the stupid opinion because it's a stupid opinion, but not because she's
04:15:38.640
So – but in terms of value, I would say – so you're not talking about dating?
04:15:46.640
Because when we use the term value, I think we're usually talking about dating.
04:16:08.180
But you said women – because, okay, this is what you wrote.
04:16:10.740
You disagree that women doing OnlyFans means she has low value.
04:16:15.700
But when you say low value, do you mean to society?
04:16:19.280
Do you mean when it comes to men's assessment of women's attractiveness?
04:16:31.080
Because, like, if I was to mean in dating, I mean, not everybody's going to have to choose
04:16:38.040
So there's, like, many other jobs to choose from.
04:16:40.160
So I can't really say that because they can do something that I feel like isn't as valuable.
04:16:46.500
Well, I mean, do you think in terms of what men value in a romantic partner, do you think
04:16:54.680
that a woman who's involved in sex work, who does OnlyFans, do you think that that is
04:17:06.460
Do you mean if they're, like, having sex with multiple people or the person that they're
04:17:15.340
You should answer my question before you ask me a question.
04:17:17.460
I'm wondering, like, what you mean by that, though, because are you saying, like – because
04:17:22.740
There's, like – I feel like there's different levels of that.
04:17:24.960
Sleeping with just your partner or sleeping with multiple people?
04:17:28.840
Well, here, we can just bring it back down to just doing OnlyFans then.
04:17:35.220
Say you're not fucking other men, although a lot of these OnlyFans girls do.
04:17:42.280
You're fleecing men on OnlyFans, blah, blah, blah.
04:17:45.160
That stuff is going to be out there permanently.
04:17:50.040
That could potentially reflect poorly on your husband, on your children.
04:17:58.760
So I guess the question is, do you think it's, like, an optimal career choice for a woman
04:18:21.020
Do any of the other OnlyFans girls want to weigh in on this?
04:18:28.760
Like, honestly, I feel like it does make a big impact.
04:18:33.080
Like, definitely the guys will feel mindful of what we do in this line of work.
04:18:41.040
But before I got into this line, I'm not planning to have kids.
04:18:47.000
So I think, like, this part didn't really come across about my mind.
04:18:51.780
And I just want to, like, work hard and earn more money.
04:18:54.660
And also, that's why now I'm not trying to, like, date seriously.
04:19:12.540
I've done OnlyFans in and out of relationships.
04:19:18.300
But it has always been just stuff with my partner.
04:19:25.360
So I had one relationship where she was fine with making content with me.
04:19:30.700
And then I've had another relationship where she didn't want to be involved.
04:19:41.040
She was fine with me doing more, like, vanilla things.
04:19:48.420
But it just depends on the relationship and what they're comfortable with, essentially.
04:19:58.540
I mean, I think, generally speaking, so if we're talking about value in terms of what
04:20:06.320
people value in terms of a partner, I think that OnlyFans, generally speaking, is going
04:20:13.420
to be appraised as negative for a lot of people.
04:20:20.560
Like, I don't think a lot of men are going to be super stoked on that.
04:20:26.780
I'm sure, I assume your husband's okay with it.
04:20:34.840
Like, I didn't fully actually start posting unless, until we decided that together.
04:20:45.380
Wait, so it was like a mutual, like, you guys both wanted to do it?
04:20:58.540
At the time we started it, I mean, it was just not a good time.
04:21:07.680
I'm not going to say universally men are always against it.
04:21:11.600
Plenty of men are in relationships and married to sex workers and OnlyFans girls.
04:21:17.800
But I think, as a general principle, I would say that men typically are going to look at it as a...
04:21:28.160
Not your human value, but, like, your value as a potential girlfriend, potential wife.
04:21:36.460
They are going to be, like, have a negative assessment of it.
04:21:43.980
Look, I think women who do sex work and OnlyFans, they can...
04:21:50.240
It can complicate things, but it's not to say that they can never find love, they can never get married, they can never have kids.
04:22:10.400
I have a philosophy that attractive women always land on their feet.
04:22:30.360
You're screwed for life and you're never going to find a boyfriend or love or a relationship?
04:22:36.540
I think, and when I say I think, I mean I know, that typically attractive women, no matter how bad they fucked up in their past, attractive women have a tendency to land on their feet.
04:22:53.480
But the reality is attractive women tend to land on their feet and there is going to be some guy who will date you and you'll be in love and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
04:23:08.860
I mean, really, it's not a guarantee you'll find love anyway without doing it.
04:23:12.500
Even if you don't do OnlyFans, not even a guarantee then.
04:23:17.040
Like, for example, but I'm willing to even say to be charitable, my podcast, like, I'm not immune to, what's the right word?
04:23:32.720
Like, by virtue of me being publicly out there and like having political takes, especially political takes.
04:23:38.740
As soon as you get into political stuff, yeah, like 50% of people are off the table for you.
04:23:58.440
That's going to close the door to you anyways with a liberal woman.
04:24:03.480
But even conservative women might not want to be like, oh, I don't know.
04:24:07.660
He's like really got this controversial show, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
04:24:13.660
So, I'm not immune to this very same effect where like, yeah, it definitely closes the door.
04:24:21.320
But it also opens the door in a lot of ways too.
04:24:24.840
I think that just as your job might close doors for people, I think OnlyFans also closes
04:24:33.020
So, you're definitely correct in the fact that it does...
04:24:37.600
Some people aren't into people in the military either.
04:24:40.480
Or, you know, in the doctors or lawyers or, you know.
04:25:02.840
So, you weren't talking about relationships though, really, when it comes to like, the low value
04:25:12.740
If I were to put it in relationship-wise, I would say it would be a lot harder to date after
04:25:18.020
like, you have had OnlyFans because people won't look at you, like, they would more look
04:25:24.320
at you as to sleep with you, much less to actually get to know you.
04:25:30.260
Although, like, I mean, a lot of these OnlyFans girls, like, at least their fans would probably
04:25:41.040
But, then the question is, do the OnlyFans girls find their fans attractive?
04:25:46.900
That's the other question you got to think about.
04:25:52.100
You disagree that women having high standards makes them entitled.
04:25:59.200
You said women are selective because the consequences for choosing the wrong man are way higher.
04:26:05.500
Uh, you think, you disagree that women having high standards makes them entitled.
04:26:12.120
If I have high standards of something that I really look for in a man, I don't feel like
04:26:29.200
Since the panel didn't give you money, here you go, my Caucasian.
04:26:35.020
And we ain't sucking no dick, you gee are Caucasian.
04:26:55.320
I guess you could always have more kids, right?
04:27:07.940
Oh, I don't have the two-lar bills, like I said.
04:27:52.280
Yeah, you know, I'm a starving college student.
04:28:07.060
We're gonna read through chat, Selena, if I can have you read these.
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You are not only attractive, but refreshing with your views.
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What are some qualities in your mate you look for?
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He has to, I don't know, like be a decent person.
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You know, you can throw in a couple of all these.
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Do you have another answer you want to give him?
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I don't think any man is ever going to mog you, girl.
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You have to be the pretty one in the relationship.
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What would be an example of a high standard that I object to or something?
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I think sometimes women have expectations or standards for men that are delusional.
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A woman who wants a man to make, say, a million dollars a year, I think that that's a bit unrealistic.
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Do you think that that would make them entitled, or is it wrong?
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I do think that makes them entitled, especially if they don't make...
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I think women should have reasonable standards, realistic standards.
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That they need to be commensurate and in line with their own value and offering.
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So if you're an average woman, and you're like, I want to date a guy who makes $10 million a year, and you're average looking.
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Like, I think it's very unlikely, even if you have that high standard, that you're going to get it.
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And so I think a lot of women, even average women, are trying to date well above what their looks, prospects, and personalities warrant.
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However, if a woman makes millions of dollars a year, and she wants her husband to make a million, I don't think that's unreasonable.
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It might be unreasonable insofar as the amount of people who make that much money is really small.
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So when you become an outlier as an individual, while you might desire somebody else who's an outlier, it's still going to be really rare and hard to find that person.
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If my standard was, say I'm making $5 million a year, and I'm like, well, I'm only going to date a woman who makes $5 million a year, that's shrunk my pool of potential women to way, way, way less than 1%.
04:33:49.300
Well, isn't it true that the majority of people don't even make $100,000 a year?
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So I think to be in the top 1%, it's $400,000 a year to be in the top 1% in the United States.
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But even that's just 1% out of how many people are in the U.S., you know, and that's $400,000, you know, and that's 1%.
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You know, everybody else is under that, and we're expecting men to make millions of dollars a year.
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And also, I mean, you can have, even if it's a guy makes less than a million dollars a year, like, you can still have a pretty nice life.
04:34:31.560
Like, I mean, all, I'm trying to think, like, San Francisco, New York City, like, some parts of California.
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Like, if you make $200,000 almost anywhere, like, that's pretty good.
04:34:46.680
Like, maybe SF and New York, it's not ideal, but.
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You're pretty much like a millionaire in Kansas if you make that.
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You can buy a house in Kansas for a penny, pretty much.
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I still don't think that you having that standard or at least wanting that standard would make you entitled.
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For a woman who makes a million dollars, so I think when men make more money, their dating pool opens up.
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When women make more money, their dating pool shrinks.
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Because men, typically, men don't really care about a woman's career.
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So a guy who's rich, making a bunch of money, like a super successful lawyer, he'll date a girl who, like an attractive, pleasant girl who works as a barista.
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They care more about the experience than they do what she does.
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They care about the experience with the woman more than they care about what she does when she's not with him.
04:36:16.920
But as a woman, women typically, when they start to make money, they're like, oh, if a woman makes $500,000 a year, would you agree that technically the guy could not work who she's with?
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She can hold it down financially as long as a man's doing something.
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I mean, in my case, my man cooks every night for us.
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Like, he does everything he's supposed to do at home.
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But that's not the real thing, so I don't think that's...
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I thought you could milk anything that has nipples.
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If my husband started having milk come out of his kitties, I think I would freak out.
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Sorry, I don't know if anybody's seen Meet the Parents.
04:37:22.620
It's a quote from Meet the Parents, Robert De Niro, Ben Stiller.
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But, okay, so your husband, he does the housework and...
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We both do it, but he does, like, he does the cooking.
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He does a lot more, because, like, and I'm more on the kids, because I'm more nurturing
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But, so, I mean, like, typically I think a woman who, say, she makes $500,000 a year,
04:38:00.980
I think a lot of women who make that much money, even though they could totally, like,
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that's so much money, they could totally take care of a guy.
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I don't think most women, even if they can do that dynamic, I don't think a lot of them
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I think a lot of, when women make, say, half a million dollars, they're like, okay, well,
04:38:20.380
Now, I want a guy who makes as much as me or more.
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So, typically when women become financially successful, it's not always the case.
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Especially, I think, a lot of times with the OnlyFans girls, y'all will date broke guys.
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Like, y'all will date, because you're like, ah, fuck, I do OnlyFans, how can I make myself
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I guess I'll buy him a PlayStation, I'll buy him a fucking Xbox.
04:38:47.920
Oh, you, you know, you just stay at home, honey.
04:39:00.000
So, it's common with the sex workers, but I feel like other women who aren't sex workers,
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who they make a lot of money, they're like, I'm not gonna date a guy who's gonna be like
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I mean, it's happened, for sure, but they're not gonna be thinking, okay, I'm gonna freaking
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She's like, I'm gonna date another attorney, I'll date a doctor, I'll date this, right?
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Would you say that stay-at-home parents are bums?
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I just wanna make sure I understood you correctly.
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No, no, I'm saying, like, obviously, when there's not children involved, and, like, you got
04:39:41.520
the super, like, the girlfriend who's, like, ambitious and making a lot of money, either
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she does OnlyFans, or she's got a career, and then she's got the boyfriend who, she's
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got a stay-at-home boyfriend, that's different than kids, like, if you got kids, I could
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see there, I think it's a bit more acceptable if it's like, okay, look, the woman is just,
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the woman is so capable, or has the capacity to make so much money, and it, like, makes
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more sense for her to keep working than for the guy who, let's say a woman, let's say this,
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a man and a woman meet in high school, and she's on track to become, like, a doctor one
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Well, I guess, it depends when they have the kids, but, and then the guy is, like,
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I don't know, he's got, like, a, he's not a bum, but he's got, like, a job where he makes
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$50,000 a year, so, I don't know, he's, what does he do?
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What's a, yeah, he's a mechanic, he, he's a barber, he cuts hair, so he makes, I don't
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Barbers are making pretty good money, though, from what I've seen on the research.
04:40:44.700
But, if your wife, your girl, is making $300,000 a year, and then you start having
04:40:50.740
kids, uh, yeah, probably, like, obviously, she should, like, nurse the kid, like, breast
04:40:56.780
milk, whatever, whatever, but, uh, yeah, like, for financial reasons, if she's making
04:41:04.240
$300,000, he's gonna make $50,000, and you have two kids to take care of, yeah, the guy
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Uh, he could just go put himself in the same position she put herself in, whether it's
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educational-wise, whether it's putting in the work or whatnot.
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No, not everybody has, I don't think, there are just some people who don't have the capacity
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I feel like a lot of people have it, they just don't put it in their mind that they have
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it, they don't like to believe that they really have it.
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Do you think that men can succeed as much as women?
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I believe men can succeed much further than women.
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And then they run the girls, they're taking 50% of these girls' cuts, yes, they're making
04:41:53.880
But they're not doing the same work as a woman.
04:41:56.100
But they still put themselves in a position in that industry to be able to, like, exceed
04:42:08.500
You have to rise above that position to be better than that, right?
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Everybody does, though, like, their own way of making money.
04:42:20.880
But you step into an industry and you want to be better than the next person, right?
04:42:26.900
Chair 9, you mentioned the provider and protector.
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Can you give us insight how you played your role in your prior relations?
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He wants me to challenge my position or someone else's.
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But you were right that I was talking about a protector and provider.
04:42:55.020
I'm very good with children because I have younger brothers.
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So I would be a very good mother, in my opinion.
04:43:49.320
I guess we can get into some of your disagreements, further disagreements.
04:43:55.600
Wasn't there, there was something else we had to do for the rating thing, wasn't there?
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You think strong disagreement about women being subservient.
04:44:15.120
Yeah, like we talked about earlier, like I just feel like it's up to the dynamic.
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I don't feel like it should be default that women have to be subservient.
04:44:34.160
But what dynamic do you think tends to be the preference for both men and women?
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And which one do you think tends to work better in a long-term relationship?
04:44:48.200
I've seen a lot of relationships where, in like straight relationships, where the female is more dominant.
04:45:02.740
There's a lot of women boss men around, and they like it.
04:45:05.440
Well, that, I don't know if we're getting into like kink stuff here.
04:45:24.160
Yeah, but the happy wife, happy life would indicate that men need to sacrifice for the sake of the woman's happiness.
04:45:31.000
Whereas happy spouse, like that would be a more mutual, self-sacrificial thing.
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I think we should both sacrifice for each other, though.
04:45:52.360
The other day I said, shit, what did I say the other day?
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Oh, we can talk about how I think that if men don't eat pussy, I think it's gay.
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But really quick, was there anything on the women being subservient?
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Like, because I asked you, you know, I think, I mean, do the other women here want to weigh in?
04:46:25.800
Well, I don't have a problem with women being subservient.
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I just don't think that it should always be the default.
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I don't think, sometimes, I don't think it should be, like, a must that women cook.
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I mean, the thing is, is that I think anybody, cooking is not, like, cooking can be learned.
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Like, there's some people out there who can follow a recipe to a tea.
04:47:08.580
But, yeah, there's people out there that can follow a recipe completely.
04:47:15.420
So, like, in that, like, position, would you step in and cook if your, like, spouse made disgusting food every time, no matter how hard she tried to follow a recipe?
04:47:23.820
Well, so, I mean, I feel like the things that I like are pretty simple.
04:47:31.980
That, like, you have to be really, like, okay, one part, one part rice, two part, like, 1.5, two parts water.
04:47:43.600
Well, actually, my diet is typically pretty simple.
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I'm the type, I can, nah, I do, like, some variety, but I can eat rice, like, every single day.
04:47:58.980
Actually, women can definitely fuck up Brussels sprouts, not going to lie.
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What if they put three parts rice in one part water?
04:48:14.300
Well, look, I'm in a unique position because, like, if I don't have a girl in the picture,
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I would just door-dash every single one of my meals.
04:48:29.840
But, yeah, I mean, once you make a certain amount of money, it's like, like, why prefer,
04:48:37.540
in terms of my own time, I'd rather just get food delivered.
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Because it's like, I think to myself, okay, I'm going to do it.
04:48:48.300
You know exactly what's going in the food, although there can be contaminants,
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even if you, like, buy it at the grocery store.
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You have more control in terms of cooking healthy.
04:49:00.680
If you get delivery, I don't know, they can use a lot of, like, oils and butter sometimes,
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But if she was really bad, I'd just be like, okay, well, fucking getting everything delivered then, I guess.
04:49:37.640
Yeah, just, oh, yeah, we'll get some food soon, probably.
04:49:42.980
But, I don't know, it's not a deal breaker if she can't cook.
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I don't need, like, a, she doesn't have to be some chef at a five-star restaurant.
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Make me steak, scrambled eggs, rice, fucking zucchini, Brussels sprouts, broccoli.
04:50:14.320
I don't need some crazy fucking, crazy, I don't know.
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But, uh, cleaning is, like, if you fuck up cleaning, then that's, I don't know, that's,
04:50:37.700
you gotta, she's gotta, you gotta know how to clean, you know?
04:50:46.620
I have to have my house, like, empty for me to clean, because I don't like people watching
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I mean, maybe one day I'll, I'll make so much money, and I should just, like, at that
04:51:19.960
So does that mean that you would, like, rather be single, and just, like, have all those
04:51:26.380
The, the, no, obviously, there's more to, there's more to a woman besides cooking.
04:51:41.540
I saw an episode where you said that she has to stir your noodles for you, too.
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She has to bow down and then stir your noodles.
04:52:18.240
And I took this video, uh, and I was like, look, I think we got one year left.
04:52:26.420
I was like, so I want to take a tutorial video for my future girlfriend to show.
04:52:37.880
So I was like, I got to show this to my future.
04:52:44.800
So this is my, this is what I expect, you know, when I get home from a long podcast episode.
04:53:03.720
So it's like you threw, you get laundry in there a little bit.
04:53:22.360
And then Mary, get ready to play one more time.
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So this is my, I, a woman has to bow, need the bow.
04:53:48.520
Going around the table, would you bow for your person?
04:53:58.760
They'd have to be like the sexiest person I've ever been with ever.
04:54:02.720
Like, it couldn't be just like an, I wouldn't bow for an average man.
04:54:06.940
Well, your boy, whoever you picked would be your boyfriend.
04:54:09.100
If I get, if I get with an average man, then he's not getting a bow.
04:54:13.320
But if he's like, if he's like, like a hundred out of ten, like a hunk.
04:54:17.440
So, so you, like you, you scored out of your league, basically.
04:54:24.100
But like, if he's just like average and I, and I still liked him or whatever, he's not
04:54:31.500
I've no, I don't think I'd ever bow for my husband.
04:54:37.200
And he was like, no way you actually think that.
04:54:43.840
We were showing him, I was showing him your clip and he was like,
04:54:53.260
I would rather my man come home and hug me and like me, like, instead of like.
04:55:14.820
I think it's like a little bit like cringy, but if it's like somebody like that, like
04:55:19.140
I love, maybe like, maybe, but like, I would prefer hugs.
04:55:44.580
Maybe you want to scoot into the table, so just speak into the microphone.
04:55:49.540
Did you take something besides caffeine today, or?
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You know what's crazy is how far away from the mic you are right now.
04:56:06.380
ADHD, do you take Ritalin, or do you take Adderall, or?
04:56:19.500
A bit cringy, but yes, you would do it for a guy you really like.
04:56:25.940
No, I would do it for him, with him, or without him.
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You said, like, okay, if he's fucking way out of my league, I'd do it.
04:56:42.860
But, like, your guy, the guy you pick, let's assume he's just, whatever.
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For those of you who said no, for the perfect man, would you bow?
04:57:22.860
I would rub his feet and, like, do whatever else that's, you know, to take care of him.
04:57:30.540
Your own husband, your own husband, who's breastfeeding your children.
04:57:36.420
He puts on the little fake silicone titties and it has, like, the funnels for the milk or whatever.
04:57:43.060
And he's just breastfeeding your kids while you're shooting some, you're spreading your pussy lips on OnlyFans or whatever the fuck you do.
04:57:50.720
And you still won't, even then, you know, you won't do a bow?
04:57:54.160
I mean, I'll go down on my knees, but I'm not going to.
04:58:00.300
My husband, yeah, but I'm not going to bow for him.
04:58:04.380
Well, you said earlier you would suck dick, too.
04:58:14.620
I said, hold on, to be clear, to be clear, in a situation where I had, like, basically power that has never been experienced ever in all of human history, just total power, authority, like, I run the United States, like, dictator style.
04:58:42.460
All those Somali daycares are shut down the next day.
04:59:04.320
Of course, it would be a fucking utopia under Brian, the dictatorship of Brian.
04:59:15.060
Just because you guys are not willing to make sacrifices.
04:59:26.900
Wait, what were you talking about before the dick-sucking con?
04:59:40.640
The perfect man, perfect looks, perfect personality, perfect loyalty, never leave you, never cheat on you, treats you amazing, perfect treatment, perfect wealth, money.
04:59:52.100
So, technically, the perfect man could be a trillionaire.
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Would you be willing to do a little weird things for, like, a billion dollars?
05:00:11.720
If I employed you at a Target, but I was being autistic about it, and I was like, you work a nine-to-five job, and you have to greet, I don't know, it's in a fucking Koreatown or some shit.
05:00:25.720
It's in the Japan town in L.A. or I don't know, whatever the fuck.
05:00:34.480
Uh, so, and you work at this, I don't know, store, and you have to bow as the guests come in, and I'll pay you $10 million a year to do that.
05:00:50.960
Or, I could give you not only, uh, the world's richest man, but he's perfect in every single way, and you would be making, you would, through him, you would have more money than $10 million a year, and you don't have to work.
05:01:08.080
So, you do the same exact thing, and in fact, you only have to do it one time, but if you work at the store, you're there for eight hours.
05:01:16.460
And you have to do it to everybody, but you make $10 million, really?
05:01:24.580
Yeah, it just makes more sense to do it there, like, the context.
05:01:28.300
No, it makes, that, no, it makes way more sense to do it, because it's a bundle offer.
05:01:33.840
Not only do you make more, you, not make, but you get more money.
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You've also been handed on the silver platter a perfect man.
05:01:44.400
You said you're a bit asexual, and you don't really have any interest in dating, but when you do start dating eventually, if you do, you're going to get cheated on.
05:01:53.500
You're probably going to date an abusive guy or two.
05:02:18.840
Also, it's like, here, Alina, what's the, oh, no, that's, who said that?
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I think on the first date, a woman should, the first time a girl comes, not first date.
05:02:34.200
First time a girl comes over to my place, she should do my laundry.
05:02:50.280
You know, I'm good with doing somebody's laundry.
05:02:59.060
I mean, I might do it if I see that you're struggling.
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Like, if you got, like, weeks and weeks of laundry, I might help you out.
05:03:13.380
But if I, if, if it's like, maybe if you're, like, really behind and you look like you need
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But, like, I feel like the first time I wouldn't do it.
05:03:23.120
Because, like, I feel like if I'm coming over, your laundry should be done and it should
05:03:30.400
Well, the house could be clean, but maybe, say, he's got a hamper in the laundry room
05:03:34.360
and in the laundry room, his hamper is full of clothes.
05:03:49.720
But if I wasn't there, who would do the laundry?
05:03:52.980
You would just, if she wasn't there, then you would do it or get some other chick who will
05:04:04.480
You don't hire someone to, like, come to your house and do your laundry.
05:04:10.280
If a cleaner gets paid to do it, what makes them think their girlfriend will do it the
05:04:18.740
If I'm not dating you and I don't know you like that.
05:04:21.700
A prostitute gets money to fuck, does that mean that I should pay my girlfriend for sex?
05:04:41.080
I mean, if you want to have sex with a prostitute, I don't think that, you know, is the same standard
05:04:49.660
But a prostitute's still not going to go to your house and do your laundry the first
05:04:56.400
Trust me, I can hire a prostitute and be like, look, I don't want to fuck, but I do want you
05:05:04.640
If you don't have a, if you have a girlfriend, or no, if you have a wife, you want her to
05:05:12.260
But if she doesn't cook for you and you're single, then who would you get to make your
05:05:26.140
Because they're expecting you to do a job on day one that they can just pay someone
05:05:30.840
So if I'm dating a girl who wants to be a stay-at-home mom or who doesn't want to work, what happens
05:05:44.860
The logic is you said yourself, you said yourself if you would rather door dash than actually
05:06:10.580
But if she wasn't there, would you make your food every single time or would you door
05:06:14.320
I would make it or I'd probably just door dash it or get drive-thru or something.
05:06:16.980
You're paying someone else to make your food and bring you your food.
05:06:22.500
So if a woman on the very first day, just the first day, a woman, if she's there, why
05:06:29.020
should she have to do a job on the first day that you could get someone else?
05:06:34.300
So do you think men should pay on first dates for the, for the, if you go to dinner, should
05:06:43.760
Well, it's not your position, so that's not going to work.
05:06:46.540
Um, I think you do acknowledge though, typically, generally speaking, if a man takes a woman
05:06:51.700
to a dinner for a first date, he's paying for the dinner.
05:06:58.500
And well, yes, most, the majority of first dates, the man asked the woman out.
05:07:04.760
So, but if the man wasn't there and the woman ate food, she would pay for the food, right?
05:07:19.240
I don't know what the point that you're making is.
05:07:21.440
The point that I'm trying to make is like, yeah.
05:07:29.220
Okay, wait, why would, okay, I'm gonna ask you a question.
05:07:34.440
Why would you want your woman to do your laundry on the first date?
05:07:39.640
Why would you want, by the way, why would she come over and just do your laundry?
05:07:48.240
I want a woman who's so fucking based that she comes over and she's like, she's like,
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oh, well, uh, she, she's, she doesn't even want to talk.
05:08:21.380
Maybe some of y'all have dated men and it hasn't worked out.
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Let me give you the sauce so that you can get the man.
05:08:28.300
So you might think, oh my God, I'm a principled woman.
05:08:34.000
However, however, I'm telling you such a minimal effort could go.
05:08:45.460
If a girl came over to my house and was just like, hey, Brian, you just go, go relax for
05:09:10.060
No, you know, I'm just kidding around, but what I'm trying to say here is you could
05:09:15.180
be like, you know, all feminine and shit, because I, you know, I say things in my weird
05:09:20.860
You could be feminine and you could be like in a feminine sort of way, be like, I mean,
05:09:27.560
you could just walk in there, you know, but you should be like, you know what?
05:09:54.300
Next time I'll go to the guy's house and stir his noodles.
05:10:00.660
You women might think that's crazy and you might think it's extra, but like in terms of
05:10:06.100
the actual effort, like laundry is not that, okay, you put in the washer, two minutes.
05:10:14.640
The folding is probably the most, you know, it takes the most time, 20 minutes maybe, 10,
05:10:24.620
It's physically, it's really not that, it's not that.
05:10:35.120
You're bringing a girl for the first day and you're expecting her to do this quick fun
05:10:39.020
I'm trying to find a woman to do all your laundry.
05:10:42.740
But what I'm saying is, you might think it's a bit extra, it's a bit much, but I'm telling
05:10:47.340
you that guy, and if it's a guy you were like, I, okay, as a woman, if you're thinking,
05:11:05.840
For being a female simp, you will set yourself apart from all the other women.
05:11:12.740
You will, the guy will look at you like a fucking unicorn.
05:11:17.760
They'll look at you like, oh my, who is this fucking woman?
05:11:27.340
They'll look at you and be like, I'm going to still go and choose her.
05:11:31.340
Even though she's a unicorn, I'm going to go pick the goldfish.
05:11:35.340
You can't be dealing, like, if you're dealing with certain guys, you know, of course you're
05:11:38.320
going to get fucked up either way, no matter how much you do.
05:11:40.980
But what I'm telling you is, if you like the guy, and you want to get the guy, because
05:11:45.560
look, y'all can, y'all are, you know, I mean, we did the looks rating thing,
05:11:48.760
so you know where I stand, but, but, look, all of you could just fuck guys.
05:11:54.180
Like, there's no, you see a guy, you can fuck him.
05:12:12.860
So, the woman has to do everything a wife does?
05:12:18.280
If the guy gets enough pussy, trust me, the pussy, you got to do more than give the pussy.
05:12:22.300
But you're forgetting you said this is the first day.
05:12:29.540
If this is my first day going over to a guy's house, he is not going to be my boyfriend until
05:12:39.180
What happened with getting to know someone before you see the brown stains?
05:12:59.060
Hey, if you women aren't using baby wipes, y'all fucking up.
05:13:04.440
We're talking about the man's laundry right now.
05:13:07.440
Well, there wouldn't, if the guy wipes properly, then.
05:13:21.640
I mean, I'm sure your underwear doesn't smell like flowers.
05:13:36.280
I don't really, I don't really, I don't really, yeah, it's good.
05:13:43.600
Bro, but you're not, if you're doing the laundry, why are you sniffing underwear?
05:14:05.320
What happens if you get a girl, and she's like perfect, but she has, but what if she
05:14:11.820
has like a thing for sniffing your dirty underwear?
05:14:15.400
You don't, you're not going to think that's weird?
05:14:18.480
Like, what if you find, like, what if she's offering to do laundry?
05:14:21.600
No, but like, what if she does sniff your dirty underwear, because you're like, who
05:14:26.940
I mean, I feel like underwear sniffers are probably fine with scents.
05:14:32.900
No, an underwear sniffer is going to like, be okay with body odor scent, probably, I guess.
05:14:47.000
So I'm saying like, what if you, like, what if the girl you met was an underwear sniffer?
05:14:58.540
Dude, I will throw the underwear back at the dude and be like, you wash these yourself
05:15:09.040
I don't really, uh, I don't really wear underwear.
05:15:12.140
I don't think so, because we're talking about brown stains and sucking Donald Trump's weight.
05:15:30.460
You gotta, as women, you should try to think about, because I think, you know, we tell men
05:15:42.060
You can't, like, you gotta get your money right.
05:15:46.660
And not to say that women don't do those things, but I think in terms of men's behavior,
05:15:51.620
we teach men, we teach men how they should treat women.
05:16:01.060
And we don't teach men how to be treated by women.
05:16:05.000
And so it's like, y'all women don't really know, you guys don't have the sauce.
05:16:46.580
So did your ex-girlfriend, like, what was the labia situation?
05:17:00.140
It was, like, actually, you know, it was, like, it was an Audi, but, you know, I've seen
05:17:04.560
So she got to club, like, a little bit, but not too late.
05:17:10.420
So, you know how there's been talks about, like, if you're with a guy who's kind of bigger,
05:17:18.860
My question for you is, do you get spoiled by the big labia?
05:17:31.380
So, I wouldn't frame it like that, like specific...
05:17:35.760
Like, obviously, I have a preference for a big labia, but if she has an innie, that's
05:17:39.520
Like, I'll still date a girl with an innie, but she better hit the bow for sure.
05:17:58.940
I'd say one of the big ways is women's, uh, climax and orgasm response is really varied.
05:18:08.760
So, for example, I think a guy can be spoiled in this way.
05:18:12.020
When you roll the dice, when you play Russian roulette, no pun intended, with some pussy,
05:18:18.000
and you land on some pussy that, like, for example, let's say she's, like, multi-orgasmic.
05:18:40.640
So, when you deal with a woman who, let's say she can just cum.
05:18:53.660
And then you, you know, you get with a girl who, like, you gotta pull out a...
05:19:01.140
Like, you gotta do some crazy shit with the clit.
05:19:19.400
I asked a question, so I'm, like, affirming that I understand.
05:20:09.380
Whereas, like, bad dick, that's way more common.
05:20:33.800
Are you guys waiting for marriage, or what's going on?
05:20:47.560
So if there's a really handsome guy out there, she might fuck you before.
05:21:15.860
Like, a girl with an innie can have great pussy.
05:21:24.120
So, what if this girl, she's the most perfect girl ever, biggest labia you've ever seen
05:21:29.900
in your life, and she says she's not doing your laundry.
05:21:41.600
But she says she's not doing your laundry, and she's not bowing, and she's not going to
05:21:50.840
Just no laundry, no noodle stirring, and no bowing.
05:22:20.160
Crazy how all you women will take a man load to the face, but won't do his load.
05:22:25.040
Women, if you did these things on a first date or first time over, you will stand out from
05:22:34.720
Look, how about this to the women at the table?
05:22:54.800
Now, would you do Donald Trump's laundry, though?
05:22:59.920
Would you sniff his dirty brown underwear to be dictator?
05:23:08.620
But you already agreed to the blowy, so it's not bad.
05:23:10.440
I feel like you guys would have to give you some clothes or some shit.
05:23:13.680
But what if you're at a guy's house for the first time, and you start doing his laundry,
05:23:33.040
But I think the guy, even if, I don't know, maybe he doesn't have laundry for you to do,
05:23:37.080
maybe he doesn't want you to do it, I think the guy will still mark you as she's a bit different.
05:23:46.900
I like this characteristic that she wants to help me.
05:23:49.660
Because a lot of guys appreciate, like it's one of the love languages, acts of service.
05:23:54.060
Because me personally, that's one of my favorites.
05:24:05.120
I'm not saying I wouldn't do a man's laundry because I've done my husband's before.
05:24:10.760
But on the first date, I just feel like you should be spending more time with each other
05:24:18.940
I mean, I'm not saying I wouldn't do a man's laundry.
05:24:21.220
But like on the first, the very first day, I am not going to say, can I do your laundry?
05:24:34.620
It's going to hurt his if he just expects us to do his laundry the first day.
05:24:44.980
Part of the reason that I already mentioned was we don't teach men what they should expect from women.
05:24:50.640
We don't teach women how they should treat men.
05:24:57.860
But it'll still he will be impressed by it and he'll like it.
05:25:05.080
But what if there's a man out there that thinks like, oh, she's doing too much, like she's doing way too much.
05:25:14.480
It's possible the guy could be like, oh, OK, he could think that.
05:25:18.880
I would tend to think, though, that if the guy would have otherwise liked you, that if you go about it like you if you go about it in the right way, it's really hard to fuck this up.
05:25:29.980
You're just like you can do it in a way that is coherent.
05:25:33.580
It's just like, oh, hey, so while I'm here, is there anything I can help you out with around the house?
05:25:38.600
I can't imagine a guy hearing that and him ever putting that.
05:25:45.340
I can't imagine like a guy putting that in the negative category.
05:25:51.780
But if you're a gambling man, I would say it's going to be a positive, overwhelmingly positive.
05:26:00.080
So just giving you the game, giving you the game.
05:26:05.620
You want to talk about big labia some more or what's up?
05:26:28.400
Yeah, so if it's in the discord, in the discord, you're going to go to, I think it's in the
05:27:16.260
Yeah, but some people's lips hold the labia inside and some people's lips don't hold the
05:27:20.440
That's the difference between an innie and an outie.
05:27:49.200
It's basically like if you've ever had a question that you've wanted to ask a guy or
05:27:55.820
a question you've thought about men and you want somebody who will be honest with you
05:28:00.640
who's not going to like pull, you know, because look, if you ask a guy who wants to sleep
05:28:11.240
It depends on what it is, but he might just lie.
05:28:14.160
Like, for example, if I'm dating a girl, I don't know, sometimes I can be autistic with
05:28:19.280
shit, so I might just, I've been my own biggest cock block my entire life, but you, I don't
05:28:30.040
know, like a girl, like a girl, like, oh, a girl's telling me about her job.
05:28:35.940
But I'll be, you know, like it would not behoove me.
05:28:39.220
It would not be, uh, it would not be in furtherance of the relationship I'm trying to develop with
05:28:48.760
That's so like, it wouldn't be, it would be bad for me to be like, yeah, I don't give a
05:29:06.540
But in this segment, in this segment, if you ever wanted to ask a man who'll give you the
05:29:12.720
honest truth, brutal truth, even about something, maybe it's about men, maybe it's about sex,
05:29:19.840
I will, I will be your, uh, big brother, Brian.
05:29:23.460
I'll, I'll, I'll tell you, I'll give you the scoop.
05:29:30.220
Do you think most men will be disloyal at some point?
05:29:40.400
Uh, I disagree with the sentiment that a lot, some women will say that, uh, majority of
05:29:53.600
Uh, some men do cheat, but do you think the question is, uh, will the majority of men be
05:30:13.580
Um, I would say no, I would say no, there are men who cheat.
05:30:20.320
There are men who are not loyal, but generally I think no, although I think if men are, I
05:30:29.420
mentioned this last show, I think if men are honest, uh, if you women gave us a pass, like
05:30:37.180
let's say for example, if we could get, not get away with cheating, but let's say for
05:30:42.400
example, the girl was open to a one, a uni direction, I think it's, you need one directional
05:30:52.340
So she's loyal to you, but she would be fine with you being with other women.
05:30:56.720
I think if a lot of men are honest and assuming they're not Christian, uh, I think most men
05:31:04.540
would be like, Oh, if she's fine with me sleeping with other women and she stays loyal to me,
05:31:11.880
But I think men will be loyal out of necessity because of course men know if I cheat on her,
05:31:22.140
I'm not saying that's a good thing, but I think if a lot of men are honest, uh, I would
05:31:28.620
probably exclude most Christian men from this, but even some Christian men would still take
05:31:33.440
Um, I think a lot of men, if their girlfriend's like, I'll be loyal to you, but you can sleep
05:31:42.460
I'm not sure if, do you women take the deal though?
05:31:45.300
Um, like if your boyfriend's loyal to you, but you can get with other men, do you take
05:31:54.900
Maybe if I had the chance with like a, like a celebrity crush or something.
05:32:06.480
I'm going to, I should have been, should have been calling you Abigail all night.
05:32:15.080
I, it could have been five hours of calling you Abigail for the rest of the night.
05:32:55.640
I know that's going to give me a great way of standing out, I guess.
05:33:16.680
And I'm banned on Hinge and I'm banned on Tinder.
05:33:30.740
The only times when a man will say that his woman is doing too much.
05:33:56.480
It's like, well, sometimes with a being submissive conversation, like, I have had some girls tell
05:34:02.120
me, like, wouldn't you get bored with, like, a girl who just did everything you wanted?
05:34:15.900
If we never have one argument in our entire lives and she just, everything I did, this
05:34:26.360
You don't like a, you don't like a little chaos?
05:34:36.700
I don't want drama and conflict and fucking all this shit on again, off again.
05:34:45.320
We're going to pump out some badass dope babies.
05:35:07.400
Wrestlers are probably, you know, they're the most fit athletes, by the way.
05:35:26.500
Because I feel like wrestlers, because we do, like, all the weight cutting and shit.
05:35:30.860
Like, you have to watch your diet and make weight.
05:35:34.100
I think wrestlers, once they, like, you see this with some MMA fighters, too.
05:35:37.840
So, I feel like once they just retire, they just, they're just like, all right, fuck it.
05:35:44.020
I was so strict with my diet, I'm just going to eat whatever.
05:35:47.880
You know, I wasn't, look, I wasn't, like, a bodybuilder.
05:36:43.060
How do I stand out on dating profiles when I'm banned from Hinge and Tinder and I only can
05:36:51.640
I just tried to log on one day and said, you're not allowed to use this platform.
05:36:55.140
Would you, like, delete it and re-download it frequently?
05:37:14.820
I use a lot of my professional, like, modeling photos.
05:37:18.080
So, I thought maybe that was one of the things.
05:37:25.520
So, I don't know how you're going to stand out if you're banned on the apps.
05:37:28.160
I guess you could do, like, Farmers Only or Christian Mingle or some shit.
05:37:38.600
I mean, I think making yourself, I know it might seem counterintuitive because it's all digital.
05:37:51.080
Like, so on these dating apps, like Hinge, there's the prompts and stuff.
05:37:55.780
I think women typically don't have too much of a rough time.
05:37:59.000
But in terms of making yourself be approachable, like, have something in your bio.
05:38:03.580
Have something in your prompts that makes it easy for the guy to, like, have something to comment on.
05:38:13.300
But I'm more so speaking about a concept or a principle.
05:38:20.680
But I'm thinking, like, because y'all women typically you don't really like if the guy just says,
05:38:28.240
I mean, if he's attractive enough, it doesn't matter.
05:38:33.500
But if he's attractive enough, the guy can kind of get away with anything.
05:38:41.320
But my suggestion would be on these dating apps.
05:38:46.300
I've been on them, was on them, but I'm not on them anymore for a long time.
05:38:52.360
I think it's better to meet in other ways if you can.
05:38:54.880
But I would say have something in your bio or a prompt, like something written, something about you that makes it easy for the guy to have an opening in terms of conversation.
05:39:05.800
Because if you just, oh, I like to travel, I like food, I like music, oh my, there's nothing, there's fucking nothing there.
05:39:14.300
I mean, I'm a fucking genius, so I could come up with some shit.
05:39:17.360
But, you know, for most guys, it's going to be difficult.
05:39:30.600
It's like my favorite era of history, so I could just put, like, some random fact about, like, World War II in that.
05:39:51.600
So you said, like, there's other, like, better places to meet people.
05:39:54.820
Where do you think those, like, better places are?
05:39:56.840
Oh, I mean, obviously, what I meant there would be, like, in person, organically.
05:40:05.860
But you wouldn't, like, say, like, the club or something like that?
05:40:10.660
You'd have to be somewhat questioning the guy's motivation in those environments to some degree.
05:40:17.620
Um, uh, I would say, well, you guys are, for you guys, you guys are in college, so this
05:40:28.960
is, like, a really good social environment to meet people that you will one day look back
05:40:34.920
on and be like, damn, it's hard to make friends, it's hard to meet people, like, once you're
05:40:40.540
So, um, college is good, school is good, campus is good, classes can be, can be good, although
05:40:46.580
probably don't shit where you eat to some degree.
05:40:49.040
Um, uh, but, uh, hobbies, sometimes there's, like, meetup groups and clubs, they can be
05:40:57.120
a little cringe, but probably better than dating apps, and, um, if you're religious, I, I guess
05:41:04.680
you could say church, probably, um, and then, uh, yeah, in person, though, in person's good.
05:41:13.520
Or, the best way is when, like, for women to just slide into my DMs, that's typically
05:41:24.360
Okay, so I need to go slide into man's DMs, I need to do their laundry, I need to sniff
05:41:39.900
It's not like a, like, like, not like a Big Brother Brian question, it's just like a, like,
05:41:45.420
what if, like, you find a girl and she does, like, like, your laundry, she does everything
05:41:50.060
you want her to do, and she, like, asks you to, like, buy her stuff, like, take her shopping.
05:41:58.080
If she, not, like, all the time, not like, she's not, like, a gold digger, but, like,
05:42:01.380
once a month she's like, oh, will you take me shopping?
05:42:07.740
Not even just, like, like, not even, like, a crazy amount of money, but she just wants
05:42:19.880
And you want her to bow to you and start your doodles and snip your underwear?
05:42:30.540
We're, we're, uh, we've been together for 10 years and they start to get tattered.
05:42:34.600
Yeah, I'll buy, look, if three months in, no, I'm not buying her.
05:42:39.300
Well, no, not, like, three months in, but, like, if you guys are, like, married and she's
05:42:41.920
like, hey, like, can I, like, have your card to go shopping to get some new outfits?
05:42:56.460
Now, she can't be irresponsible with our money.
05:43:01.980
So I, I would want her to be financially, uh, well, yeah, financially responsible is the
05:43:09.740
best thing, uh, and I'm going to want oversight, but, uh, yeah, everything, so, okay, in the
05:43:20.500
ideal dynamic for me, uh, I'm doing well financially.
05:43:24.040
If we get to that point, long-term in our relationship, everything's taken care of.
05:43:31.520
However, uh, I will want authority to some degree over the household spendings, uh, like
05:43:40.620
no offense to our two lovely, uh, plastic surgery gals here, whoever I'm dating.
05:43:52.900
I know some women, you know, let's say they, they want to get a little mommy, uh, like sometimes
05:43:59.560
there's loose skin or something, and maybe she has body dysmorphia because she had like
05:44:06.520
Although some women bounce back, can bounce back pretty well.
05:44:10.120
Like that's different, but like I'm dating a woman and she wants to get a BBL.
05:44:21.380
So I would have final authority on some of these things.
05:44:48.220
What if her boobs are like real saggy, real, like, like being down to her belly button.
05:44:57.140
Well, the titties are going to look like labia.
05:44:58.860
Well, what if they drag down and cover her labia?
05:45:07.540
You'd have to, I would have to see how, like the degree to which the titties are fucked
05:45:14.260
I mean, conceivably, I wouldn't say it's a hundred percent off the table, but generally
05:45:20.340
But if it's like really fucked up and it's causing her, it's causing her, uh, what's
05:45:34.380
Then I think under those circumstances, I would do it.
05:45:38.560
But we, we don't have kids and she just wants fake titties for the sake.
05:45:45.100
Like maybe she's got a cup or B cup, but she's only a little bigger boobs.
05:45:48.820
No, no corner, go in the fucking corner and think about what you've just done.
05:45:57.880
Uh, if they were natural and she wanted a reduction, if they were like naturally like
05:46:04.700
like a H cup and she wanted a reduction, if she's doing it for like, if it's medically
05:46:09.900
indicated, like she has genuine like back problems or it's like causing some other kind
05:46:19.240
But if she's just like aesthetically, she like has double D's.
05:46:27.680
And then she's like, I want to go down to an A cup.
05:46:29.560
I'd be like, I don't know how I feel about that.
05:46:33.480
I kind of like the, look, here's the order of operation.
05:46:37.360
I mean, big labia, then, you know, it's typically butt or boobs guy, but I'm a labia
05:46:44.000
So like push that shit to the side, but it'd be labia, butt, boobs in that order.
05:46:51.920
I like them, but yeah, you're not getting, you know, BBL out the picture.
05:47:02.920
I heard those stink, like people talk about the BBL stinking.
05:47:08.900
Like you, you see a girl walk by and you smell her BBL.
05:47:14.720
We've definitely had girls on the show who've had BBLs.
05:47:33.380
So many women want men to be interesting and adhere to their traditional gender roles.
05:47:38.120
As if we are here to entertain them like clowns.
05:47:41.560
Yet, so many of them are not virgins and are not traditional.
05:47:50.680
Like you're over here sending $200 online to a stream.
05:47:55.560
I feel like Pasty George isn't traditional either.
05:48:13.700
So if any of you want a wealthy Canadian guy, we were in the, um.
05:48:18.020
We were in like the, the woods, the deep woods in Toronto.
05:48:25.560
And this motherfucker saved me because he, it's a long story, but we were in the woods
05:48:35.300
That bear didn't stand a chance against Pasty George.
05:48:37.680
And I'm, I'll tell you what, you know, um, I'd become confident setting any of you up
05:48:48.460
He, he can be wealthy and stuff, but that, does that mean he's traditional?
05:48:53.960
Well, I, you know, Pasty George, you know, uh, I would let him tell you that I don't want
05:49:00.760
You would have to ask him if he's a traditional guy.
05:49:07.740
He should send a champagne pop and answer that.
05:49:10.920
It's been a while since we've had a champagne pop period.
05:49:16.680
But, um, everybody here is like, we got 19, 19, 18, well, we've got some people.
05:49:27.500
I'll give my one year to somebody who needs it.
05:49:31.860
But Pasty George, I'm not like, he, he's a good guy.
05:49:45.800
Wait, where, what the fuck were we talking about before the, we're talking about talking
05:49:50.580
about how you're not paying for plastic surgery.
05:50:02.500
Like she's not like, even if I'm, even if I'm super wealthy, like you want luxury, you're
05:50:11.020
You're going to buy, you're going to spend $300 on like a thousand dollars.
05:50:17.520
No, I'm like, not like a bag, but like, here's a plastic bag, motherfucker.
05:50:26.700
Or like Amazon and Costco have high quality stuff.
05:50:44.780
We'll spend that shit on, on travel, on nicer thing, on nicer things in the house.
05:50:52.980
I'm not, I'm not buying some, I'm not going to buy my, you know, she can get a cubic zirconia.
05:51:00.140
Like I wouldn't, I don't know if I'm going to get married.
05:51:02.620
Uh, but if I were to propose to a woman, cubic zirconia.
05:51:10.160
I mean, it actually pops up as a diamond if it's moissanite on a diamond tester.
05:51:15.660
I mean, it's more of a, uh, a better fake if you're going to get a fake.
05:51:23.440
Who had, somebody else had a question, I think, maybe?
05:51:36.600
Um, what is the minimum yearly income to be your husband?
05:51:50.060
I think just as long as you're working your hardest and, you know, being a productive person
05:52:24.680
Just as long as, like, $25,000 and up, $24,000 and up, $100,000.
05:52:31.820
I would say, like, honestly, just enough to, like, pay the bills and stuff if I wasn't working.
05:52:39.660
But if I had to choose a number, I think $45,000 is a good range to where I would live.
05:53:03.400
I think as long as he can afford his own bills, I don't really care.
05:53:26.280
With the $200,000, I feel like that's enough money to meet my needs.
05:53:36.280
Anything that could come up, $200,000 is enough.
05:53:43.660
I need somebody who will take care of me and my children one day.
05:53:49.020
And what is the minimum height of a guy you would date?
05:53:58.980
Um, I don't have, like, a, it doesn't matter with women.
05:55:00.640
I think I wrote down 5'11", but maybe it's something like 5'8 and above or something like that.
05:55:11.460
So, I'm 5'9", and I would like my guys to be around 5'11".
05:55:26.300
Would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear?
05:55:34.180
Because I feel like if I pass a bear and leave it alone, it's most likely not gonna mess with me.
05:55:42.760
Or probably more than a 50% chance that he may mess with me.
05:55:50.980
I feel like if a bear got me, he would just, like, maul me and kill me.
05:55:56.800
What do you think is the chance of the bear mauling you and eating you versus the chance
05:56:08.800
So, the man is more likely to victimize you in some sort of way than the bear is?
05:56:22.000
I say the man because, first of all, not all men...
05:56:27.560
And second of all, depending on the type of bear, it will, like, 99% rip you to shreds.
05:56:33.400
If it's coming close enough to you when you're walking down a trail and you walk by it.
05:56:46.400
Um, probably a man because not all men are bad.
05:56:57.920
Um, probably, like, a man because, as everyone else has been saying, not everyone, not all
05:57:04.760
I could go either way because no animal nor any man puts fear in my heart.
05:57:14.520
The only one I'm scared of is the Lord above in heaven.
05:57:22.540
Would you rather cross paths with a bear or a black person?
05:57:37.420
Okay, that, it depends because if it's a black woman, then the black woman, but if it's a
05:57:41.620
You don't know the gender at all, you just have to pick one.
05:57:44.800
Then I guess the bear if it's a person because I just, I don't trust people.
05:57:49.700
Not that everybody's bad or that all black people are bad, but just the fact that I trust
05:57:59.320
Would you rather, if you have a child, would you rather leave your child with a bear or
05:58:24.700
Um, I think women are just as capable of doing, like, horrific things just as much as
05:58:30.220
Oh, I think they're all very capable of doing horrific things.
05:58:32.960
Women do do horrific things, but I think women are, they nurture children a lot of times.
05:58:38.940
Yeah, it's not really about, like, people having the capability of doing bad things.
05:58:43.440
It's about the likelihood of a bear hurting you versus a human being, doesn't matter,
05:58:52.780
Because with a man, you could have a neutral outcome or a positive outcome or a negative
05:58:59.780
He could, he could hurt you or he could help you out in, like, a situation where you're
05:59:06.080
With a bear, it can only be neutral or negative.
05:59:11.900
You either get eaten alive or the bear maybe passes you if you get lucky.
05:59:17.620
So the luckiest you can get is if a bear just ignores you.
05:59:20.760
With a person, at least you can reason with them.
05:59:25.980
I just feel like people are more capable of doing more traumatizing things.
05:59:33.680
So a person may kidnap you and keep you and do horrible things to you.
05:59:39.240
I'd just rather go out and die than, like, go through anything like that.
05:59:44.540
And it's a lot easier to defend yourself with another human being, man or woman, versus
05:59:52.360
So you definitely have a higher, like, even if the man is going to do something brutally
05:59:56.660
awful to you or woman, you have a higher chance of being able to defend yourself versus
06:00:08.620
It's also your capability of defending yourself against a bear is, like, nearly impossible,
06:00:14.440
Whereas with a man, it's like, yeah, he's going to be stronger than you, but at least
06:00:22.020
Like, you can, like, beg him to leave you alone or something.
06:00:25.540
Unless you have weapons or something, like, obviously you can use a weapon against a human
06:00:35.320
It's not impossible for him to fight off a bear.
06:00:48.980
I'd hope for a friendly bear or a friendly man.
06:00:58.560
There's, like, statistics about women being more likely to kill their baby than a man.
06:01:03.880
Or women being more likely to kill a baby than some kind of animal.
06:01:08.280
I'm not sure what it is, but I've heard people disprove the, like, woman versus animal thing
06:01:14.040
by saying, like, women are more likely to kill their child than a man is.
06:01:19.520
So it's technically less safe to leave your child with a woman than a man.
06:01:27.120
Yeah, I don't know any of the statistics, so I couldn't vouch for that part.
06:01:32.940
How many men do you run, do, like, come across every day?
06:01:50.120
Yeah, so you don't really have experience with bears to know that it would leave you alone.
06:01:56.620
I don't have, all I've had is, I've had a lot of negative experiences with men that I felt like I could trust.
06:02:05.000
So, I don't know, that's where it comes from, I feel like, trusting animals more than people.
06:02:16.440
I also don't trust people, but I definitely wouldn't pick a bear over a person, just because, like, even knowing with how horrible people can be, it's still, I still think it's unreasonable.
06:02:26.240
But, I feel like we should talk about something else.
06:02:44.740
Does anybody think women don't have equal rights to men in the U.S.?
06:02:55.340
Does anyone think women are oppressed in the U.S.?
06:03:01.000
I think maybe, like, pay-wise sometimes, certain places will do that, but I don't think, like, constitutional right-wise, I think we all have the same constitutional, like, God-given rights.
06:03:38.020
Who is the primary victim of all the wars that have happened?
06:03:45.080
Because back when the wars happened, women weren't allowed to fight, right?
06:03:54.920
Would you date a guy who doesn't own a firearm?
06:03:58.640
I kind of feel like I wouldn't, you know what I mean?
06:04:06.420
I only say I would date one because I plan on owning one.
06:04:13.140
Anybody wouldn't date a guy who owns a firearm?
06:04:21.680
Wait, you didn't circle men should provide slash protect for agree with the statement.
06:04:28.600
Do you disagree that men should provide and protect?
06:04:32.240
I think it depends on the roles in the relationship.
06:04:35.800
I don't feel like every man in a relationship provides and protects.
06:04:50.860
You can fight a bear, but you can't do a champagne pop?
06:05:01.560
If a man's girlfriend constantly turns him down for sex, is it valid for him to break up with her?
06:05:26.660
It doesn't need to break up because this thing.
06:05:29.580
Like, relationship is not just for sex, have other stuff.
06:05:35.560
But there's, like, requirements that everyone wants out of their partner.
06:05:39.100
Like, things that you see as, like, a bare minimum.
06:05:42.140
Like, I'm sure there's stuff that you see as, like, bare minimum in a relationship.
06:05:47.780
Like, you would want a guy to pay on dates, for example.
06:05:50.680
Like, there's things that you probably see as bare minimum in a relationship.
06:06:06.940
Or, like, protecting you in a dangerous situation.
06:06:10.000
Like, those would be, like, bare minimum things.
06:06:12.860
So, for a lot of people, I feel like sex is a...
06:06:15.840
I feel like sex is, like, a base requirement for a relationship.
06:06:26.060
Like, for instance, like, nothing bad towards Abby.
06:06:29.660
But, like, Abby's not going to get in a relationship with a man who wants to have sex.
06:06:33.180
Just like a man who wants to have sex isn't going to get in a relationship with somebody who's asexual, knowing.
06:06:38.400
Because there's, like, certain stuff like that you have to see eye to eye.
06:06:51.900
If that's something that they want or they desire, they're not going to, like, get with somebody who also doesn't desire that.
06:06:58.200
Yeah, like, if that's something that's discussed in the beginning.
06:07:00.660
Like, if you're dating somebody who's asexual, who's not interested from the beginning to have sex in the first place.
06:07:08.920
But I think this question more pertains to, like, a situation where the people are already having sex and then they stop.
06:07:15.240
Like, one person just doesn't want to do it anymore.
06:07:22.520
Maybe they're not attracted anymore or for a different reason.
06:07:26.880
I think, personally, I think it's valid to break up with someone in that situation.
06:07:37.520
If you're a sexually active person before, something has to...
06:07:43.400
And a lot of times that can be a sign of infidelity.
06:07:47.920
Now they lose attraction to their current partner.
06:07:51.260
It's also very damaging on the other person, too, in this situation.
06:07:54.820
I would feel like he didn't, like, want me anymore.
06:07:57.840
It's very damaging to a woman, especially women, you know.
06:08:01.760
Because if you're already doing it, you know, that love's there.
06:08:05.680
But once it's gone and it's just like, I don't know what I did.
06:08:18.040
I broke up with a guy because we couldn't have sex anymore, you know.
06:08:22.620
And I don't feel bad about it, still to this day.
06:08:34.960
Do you guys think it's easier for men or women to get sex, to get laid?
06:08:45.340
Who do you think puts in more effort, generally, into dating, men or women?
06:08:55.040
Like, one, like, say this one couple, like, the girl puts more effort in,
06:08:58.780
and the other couple, the man puts more effort in.
06:09:01.440
Like, just in general, like, not in specific relationships, just in dating,
06:09:06.220
who puts in more effort to, I guess, get dates or get success with their dates?
06:09:13.860
Like, who has to put in more effort to have successful outcomes with their dates?
06:09:34.160
Do you mean, like, to get, like, the better outcome, like, what they want?
06:09:39.700
Like, I guess, just whatever, whatever you see as a successful outcome for yourself,
06:09:44.620
what you want to accomplish with dating, whether it be, like, casual, casual encounters
06:09:49.760
or a long-term relationship or whatever you're looking, or just attention,
06:09:53.880
whatever that it is you're looking for, is it easier?
06:09:57.220
Or do men or women have to put in more effort to get that, to get whatever they want out
06:10:03.380
of the opposite sex, out of the same sex, whoever you're interested in?
06:10:09.020
I think it could go both ways, but I think women want more out of life.
06:10:19.200
Like, a lot of women that I talk to want the wife, or want the husband, the kids, the house,
06:10:27.440
and a lot of men that I've met don't want to commit, or they take too long,
06:10:39.380
So I think, like, it could go both ways, but I think women just have more standards, I guess,
06:10:48.420
I think women should have certain standards, because we obviously have to carry children,
06:10:53.960
You have to be very picky about who's going to be the father of your children.
06:10:59.420
Do you guys think a woman's career, money, or status makes her more attractive to the man?
06:11:09.440
I think if a woman, like, knows what she wants, and, you know, has it figured out,
06:11:17.380
I feel like men also want women that have it together.
06:11:21.240
Most guys are going to look at that woman as too masculine, you know?
06:11:31.040
That's kind of just the reality of it, which is really sad, you know?
06:11:34.940
See, I don't have the insight on it, because for women, women like other women that are
06:11:40.400
That are motivated, and that, you know, know what they're doing, and have things going on.
06:11:44.300
Well, even for me, I like guys that are motivated themselves.
06:11:47.120
If I put myself to a certain, like, category, I expect you to be there, too.
06:11:52.540
I don't expect you to make $100 million, but I expect you to still carry yourself like you
06:12:02.060
Yeah, I think just men and women see motivation in different ways a lot of the time.
06:12:06.660
Like, I think men can find motivation and ambition attractive in women.
06:12:11.220
It's just not towards the same things that women find ambition attractive for, if that
06:12:17.660
So, I think men oftentimes find it attractive if a woman knows what she wants, and it's
06:12:22.920
like family-oriented, or it's something that has to do with him, or improving his life.
06:12:28.740
But when women become successful for themselves a lot of the time, with their status and career,
06:12:38.720
The man's life doesn't really improve from that.
06:12:41.220
And it probably creates insecurity for the man.
06:12:48.140
Imagine being a man and being jealous of your girl because she's doing better than you.
06:12:54.100
I mean, if I was a man, I probably wouldn't want to do that.
06:12:58.600
If she's like, if she's really nice and she's really sweet and she like makes more money
06:13:04.400
But if she has all the other characteristics that come with like a, like the same characteristics
06:13:10.560
that an ambitious man has, it's not, it's not the same.
06:13:34.420
So wait, just show of hands, who here's a virgin?
06:14:15.800
This is beautiful, but it's not like, I'm not attracted to them, but I think they're gorgeous.
06:14:26.900
Would you lose your virginity to Sabrina Carpenter?
06:14:34.420
And then the weekend, like he's like, yo, I'm not going to marry you, but like, would you smash?
06:14:46.560
Are there other celebrities who you would just smash?
06:14:54.560
I got to, I got to, no, I got to really think about it.
06:15:31.440
I mean, he looks like, I've heard of him, like on the radio.
06:15:38.360
I can't even think of any of the songs he produced.
06:15:40.600
So let's say right now, the weekend, walks into the whatever podcast, and he's like,
06:15:52.020
And he's like, I wish to have sex with you, and would you just fuck, like, right away,
06:16:04.320
Well, I mean, I guess I get to hang out with him.
06:16:25.880
Like, if there's a green room or something at the whatever podcast.
06:16:53.260
To chair three, I am a First Nations Cree man who can hunt, fish, and survive in the wilderness.
06:16:59.340
I have had four long-term relationships and never cheated, but have been cheated on thanks to feminism.
06:17:22.500
Hey, that's my, uh, that's my, that's my platonic wife.
06:17:32.480
You know, there was a period of separation, but she's back now.
06:17:36.040
Yeah, I got her back in the, she's back with the program now.
06:17:42.500
She's the most lovely woman I know named Natalia, I'll tell you that much.
06:17:46.520
She must be Italian, if you're talking like that.
06:17:56.440
Wait, I hope that's not like TMI, you know, I hope.
06:18:16.960
Really quick back to you, though, Alice in Chains.
06:18:27.380
You will allow, the weekend, platinum recording artist?
06:18:33.640
To deflower you, to take your virginity within five minutes of meeting?
06:19:12.280
He has a really nice voice, and I think he's cute.
06:19:16.260
Um, but isn't it, look, you know, you're a nice gal.
06:19:28.280
Now, imagine the good Christian boy who meets her and is like, he's got to marry this
06:19:39.700
But the weekend, he just gets to hit right away.
06:20:15.540
Shouldn't it be the case that weekend, who's only trying to hit once, he doesn't get the
06:20:20.620
But the guy who, say you've gotten pegged, not pegging him, but you've pegged him as
06:20:37.780
Part of the hypothetical is that you would not, like, it's just a one, it's the most wonderful
06:20:51.280
You just fuck, and on the private jet, and he sings.
06:20:55.000
And then, he drops you off, and you never hear from him again.
06:20:57.780
In fact, you get pregnant, and now you have a mixed race kid, and you're a single mom.
06:21:04.880
Do you abort the weekend's spawn, the spawn, wait, what the fuck?
06:21:30.300
How would y'all women feel if I was like, you know what?
06:21:43.380
It's just, maybe we have sex once or a couple times, and I'm gonna do, I'm gonna pay for
06:21:51.300
I'm gonna, I don't know, do all the, all these nice gestures.
06:21:57.180
I'm gonna do all these things for the girl who I fuck one, two, or three times.
06:22:04.580
And then I tell you, Morgan or whoever, I'm, I don't know, I'm not, sorry, I didn't mean
06:22:13.120
I tell you, just in your, in your mind's eye, all the women at the table, I want to marry
06:22:23.140
But I'm only gonna do all that shit for the girl I'm just trying to hit.
06:22:37.880
Yeah, but we're talking about the weekend here.
06:22:49.200
Okay, well, uh, I don't know, what would be the example?
06:22:53.040
I don't know, what's the, she's, um, I don't know, I'm not sure, I'm not sure what
06:23:10.260
Uh, hold on, I'm checking on the food here really quick.
06:23:21.500
It's like, I don't know, how are you gonna, this is actually an interesting segment I should
06:23:31.160
I have another segment though that we can do, uh, oh, uh, okay.
06:23:37.920
You know what I, I feel like I should do, kind of somewhat in the same vein as Big Brother
06:23:42.880
Brian, I should do, this is so dumb and retarded, the, the Brian girlfriend audit.
06:23:50.660
So, as a service, I will be your boyfriend for a fortnight, 14 days.
06:23:59.800
And I, we got like, and so I'll, I'll tell you as a woman, I'll give you an audit.
06:24:08.280
I get, I don't know what the girlfriend audit, boyfriend audit, and I will date you and see
06:24:16.820
Um, cause I, cause some girls are struggling now.
06:24:21.320
I will, 14, 14, we, you know, sex included, of course, uh, you know, cause I gotta make
06:24:27.220
sure that, you know, you know what you're doing.
06:24:29.000
If you're fucking shit up somehow, I don't know, to the BJs, whatever it is, I'll tell
06:24:37.460
And I give you an, I think maybe I charge for it.
06:24:41.120
I, I audit the, you, I audit you and I'm like, okay, you're doing this wrong.
06:24:48.840
Your boyfriend couldn't tell you I should do that.
06:25:03.380
Cause I feel like a lot of women are struggling to like lock guys down.
06:25:06.940
They're struggling to, and like, well, dating culture.
06:25:09.480
Don't you think like, here's a, perhaps a good analogy.
06:25:15.240
Have you ever encountered someone with bad breath?
06:25:22.860
Well, that wasn't the answer I was looking for, but I think, have you ever encountered
06:25:26.900
someone with bad breath and you didn't tell them?
06:25:30.680
Even if I didn't tell them my face, that's bullshit.
06:25:34.280
I'm just saying, I think, uh, I think some people.
06:25:39.480
Uh, I think some people move through life, not knowing their deficits and I can come
06:25:50.360
I'm a boyfriend consultant, girlfriend consult.
06:25:53.040
I don't know what the fuck the right terminology is.
06:25:59.680
Cause I think a lot of people don't get told necessarily the ways in which they're deficient.
06:26:16.160
Well, I mean, there's like, there's dating coaches, but this is like hands on audit.
06:26:24.560
Well, I mean, other people could do this, but I think I have the knowledge.
06:26:32.240
And, um, I don't think people go to this length.
06:26:35.940
Like there's dating coaches, like opposite sex dating coaches or whatever, but they don't
06:26:41.320
like actually date the guy or like have sex with you to let you know, you know?
06:26:48.480
I mean, it's really, again, it's like pizza, you know, it's really hard to fuck up pizza.
06:26:54.960
I don't know if any women would take me up on it, but it is something to think about.
06:27:21.620
So yeah, and then she's got to do your laundry and sniff your undies.
06:27:48.220
Even white guys, uh, six, one, that's, uh, I think less than 10.
06:28:02.080
Uh, Mary, if you want to go, uh, like right, pretty much.
06:28:08.340
If you want to head on to the, you know, you know where.
06:28:18.740
Oh, uh, did anyone else have like any interesting answers to these?
06:28:25.800
Uh, there was, you want $200,000 minimum yearly income for your future husband, a hundred
06:28:37.060
That's if I'm like not working, he wants me to stay at home, it should be just enough
06:29:01.600
You're an Indian man, I guess, working at a convenience store.
06:29:12.080
I love you guys in a platonic, non-homosexual kind of way.
06:29:24.580
What's the, can you explain the not ever wanting to have sex thing?
06:29:30.340
No, I just, the idea of sex just makes me uncomfortable.
06:29:36.660
And it just kind of scares me and causes me out.
06:29:40.200
Do you, I don't know if this is like TMI, too much, whatever.
06:30:06.600
You could, you might, hey, some people are asexual or whatever.
06:30:36.380
I do think I'm onto something, though, with the, the audit service, the boyfriend audit.
06:30:52.080
It is a video game, but the word fortnight does actually, uh, it means 14 days.
06:30:57.900
Oh, that's a wonderful new fact I learned today.
06:31:00.100
Abraham Lincoln, when he says four score, seven years ago, okay, whatever.
06:31:06.760
Uh, let's see, what else did we have to get to?
06:31:09.400
I don't know if there's anything, I don't know, the questionnaire, pretty tame.
06:31:16.600
Do you guys think best should not matter in terms of body count?
06:31:26.720
Like, but do you think it should matter, just in general, not to you, but maybe to other people?
06:31:37.560
Like, if you've dated, like, multiple people, and you've had sex with all of them, like, that's one thing.
06:31:42.880
It's another thing if you've had, like, 15 one-night stands.
06:31:47.020
So, there's, like, there's, like, a scale to it.
06:31:50.260
So, I guess not if it's, like, an outrageous number, but.
06:32:02.440
Yeah, don't start with me, I gotta think real quick.
06:33:47.480
Damn, so, like, I'm a late bloomer compared to this group.
06:34:06.360
Uh, for the younger women here, which is most of you, well, it's all of you,
06:34:13.060
Um, I'm just, how long do you guys think the internet has, actually, wait, let me play
06:34:27.140
Hey, Brian, if you can keep this show running for this year, then I will get you another gift
06:34:33.560
Send me a DM later on of what you would like, and then open it on the show in December.
06:34:42.260
I can, I can send you a video DM of what I like.
06:34:46.220
I like champagne, so you should do a champagne pop, preferably the Cristal, but you don't
06:34:55.140
Does that, like, mean we actually get champagne?
06:34:58.920
I don't watch enough of this to know what it means.
06:35:16.340
So, in that case, I think July, there's, the date is in July for the final episode.
06:35:24.500
Is that, it's up in the air, it's up in the air, uh, but it is being contemplated.
06:35:52.060
You said we didn't have the internet back then.
06:35:57.520
Uh, okay, so, how long do you think the internet has been around?
06:36:15.620
Like, the internet, as far as, like, the Google?
06:36:19.740
It's a bit of a vague question, because, I mean, when did it, how about,
06:36:24.320
when, should it be, when was it widely adopted?
06:36:35.420
Does anybody think the internet was around in the 1800s?
06:36:42.420
Sometimes I wonder, like, if you grew up with the current, like, I remember before social media.
06:36:56.700
But I'm pretty sure for all of you, almost all of you, for most of your life, there's been, like, social media.
06:37:14.880
So it's been almost 20, almost 20 years, about 20 years of Facebook.
06:38:21.840
You circled women are just as physically strong as men.
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But in general, do you think women are just as physically strong as men?
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Mary, just maybe see who wants pizza before giving it to them, I guess.
06:39:21.260
Like, are women, on average, just as strong as men, on average?
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I mean, he's probably not strong, like, with genetics.
06:39:37.780
You've got to work to become, like, strong, right?
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Basically, let's say you put a man and a woman through the same exact level of training.
06:40:01.560
Because of men's natural biology and physiology, the man will be stronger.
06:40:18.780
Like, injury or some sort of, like, defect, I actually think that a man with the weakest genetic potential, you put him up against a woman with the strongest genetic potential.
06:40:30.760
I almost think, assuming not, like, there's not an injury or something that would prevent him from gaining muscle, that guy is going to be stronger than the woman.
06:40:44.300
If they both train and they have the, I guess, equivalent strength program, I think a genetically inferior man would outpace her in strength than even, like, the most genetically gifted woman.
06:41:00.720
So, this would be nurture over nature in this case.
06:41:04.180
Even, even, um, even a woman who genetically mogs the shit out of some fucking genetically inferior man, uh, if the nurture is there, the man, I think, will be stronger.
06:41:26.100
Like, the strongest person in the world is always a man.
06:41:29.860
The weakest person in the world, always a woman.
06:41:32.860
There could be a weaker man compared to a strong woman.
06:41:37.340
There are, there are women who are stronger than some men.
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And there are some men who are weaker than some women.
06:41:43.880
But, as a general principle, do you think a male quadruple amputee would be stronger than a female quadruple amputee?
06:42:12.080
Well, like, there's core strength and neck strength.
06:42:26.100
Morgan, you circled people of color can't be racist towards white people.
06:42:38.100
Abby, you circled, let's see, we could do adult age gap relationships are wrong.
06:42:59.540
Wait, you're in an age, wait, who was the one in the age gap relationship?
06:43:17.040
To the other women here who object to age gap relationships, which is Abby, Morgan, Alice,
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do you think her age gap relationship is wrong?
06:43:26.820
Um, no, she's in, like, her 20s and I think it's fine.
06:43:30.340
I just think it's weird, like, when, like, a 30-year-old man, um, tries to, like, get
06:43:41.980
Yeah, so now, they've been together for, what, five, six years?
06:43:45.440
So, when they met, she was 18 and he was 30, in his mid-30s.
06:43:52.680
It just, it does really depend on, like, the maturity level.
06:44:00.180
Like, you know, like, because, like, the, like, you know when your frontal lobe fully
06:44:08.080
I don't believe the frontal lobe shit, but, okay.
06:44:10.400
Oh, well, that's when it does develop, according to psychology.
06:44:15.680
My understanding is, with the frontal lobe stuff, the brain, power, whatever it is, is
06:44:20.320
that it actually starts to decline after a certain period of time.
06:44:23.060
So, then, would it eventually be the case that if I could demonstrate, like, I think
06:44:27.680
in some ways I was, I was sharper, like, 10 years ago.
06:44:31.800
In other ways, I'm more intelligent, but in other ways, I feel like, cognitively, I've
06:44:40.380
Uh, so, would it be the case, like, let's say my cognition, like, what if you could test
06:44:45.280
for cognition, or something, or whatever the prefrontal cortex metric would be?
06:44:50.540
And it turns out that, I don't know, I was, um, I don't know, a younger woman was actually
06:44:59.040
more cognitively, she was better cognitively than I am.
06:45:09.680
Yeah, so, like, let's say, let's say I were to date, like, uh, a, uh, uh, someone who's
06:45:18.720
20, or whatever, but she's cognitively more, like, better, sharper than I am.
06:45:36.720
So, when you say, when you cite to prefrontal cortex, you're talking about cognition, intelligence,
06:45:44.540
So, if I, like, how about, or, at any age, you could be at 40 and have, like, an IQ of
06:45:50.900
80, and you could have an 18-year-old who has a, like, genius IQ of 150 or something.
06:45:59.240
Would the woman with the genius IQ who's dating the man with a below-average IQ, is she being
06:46:10.340
If you have, like, an IQ that high, I don't think you would want to, like, get with, like,
06:46:15.660
Well, you might not want to, but would it be predatory?
06:46:23.020
Uh, what about an older woman dating a younger man?
06:46:36.100
Yeah, I don't really buy, I don't buy into the prefrontal cortex thing.
06:46:40.540
I, I don't really know if there's any meaningful way to actually test, like, in, uh, true intelligence
06:46:48.040
I think you can have somebody younger who's more, like, intelligent or has stronger cognition
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So, kind of throw that theory out the window, I think.
06:47:09.200
It's more so just, it's more so just, like, a personal thing.
06:47:12.780
I, I don't really, like, like, I'm not going to shame her for dating someone older than
06:47:17.800
her, but it's just something that I wouldn't do.
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Like, I'm not going to go date somebody that's 10, 11, 12 years older than me.
06:47:54.000
I don't really have a type except this is, in no, no racist way whatsoever.
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I just don't really like Mexican guys or Asian guys.
06:48:07.680
No, people, I think people can have preferences, racial preferences when it comes to dating.
06:48:19.860
Have you had carnal knowledge with a black guy?
06:48:30.960
And then, so you said body count was 12, right?
06:49:11.560
Uh, who's like, I'm trying to think who's another artist that I could name that you would, how
06:49:56.460
I feel like it's a bit of a red flag if a girl listens to rap music.
06:50:12.200
So you would date an older guy, but he's got to be, you know, famous, I guess, or whatever.
06:50:28.580
When's the last time you were intimate with a man?
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Some people, both men and women, they only have sex drunk or high.
06:51:05.200
Yeah, but they're, like, nervous or anxious or whatever, and they're like, I can only fuck
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when I'm, like, that's kind of a little peculiar.
06:51:14.300
So, have you had more sober sex than drunk or high sex?
06:51:27.000
I smoke a lot of weed, so I'm high most of the time.
06:51:46.080
No, I, I, I always think I fall in love, I fall in love when I'm drunk.
06:52:15.580
Yeah, I have a list of prompts that are kind of some of my positions, and I want to see if
06:52:21.800
any of you will want to discuss or bite on any of those.
06:52:25.740
Um, and then Mary, when you get a moment, if you guys are done with your plates, I'll
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Actually, let's do that now before we do the, uh, send them down that way.
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I'll just clean up the table here a little bit.
06:53:47.880
So, I mean, I would say that tattoos are neutral or negative.
06:54:02.800
I'm speaking more so from, uh, from the male perspective.
06:54:07.680
Some guys are into tattoos, uh, but I think it's probably a lot less than you would be
06:54:18.800
Just to be clear, I don't think tattoos are a deal breaker, but I would say, I think generally,
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like, I've never looked at a woman and I was like, I wish she had more tattoos.
06:54:29.080
I've definitely looked at the woman and was like, I wish she had less.
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See, some people that don't have tattoos just don't like tattoos.
06:54:39.500
It's not a deal breaker for me if they don't, but I just, I like them.
06:54:43.740
Well, I guess what I would say though, is that men also lie.
06:54:47.620
Remember earlier when I was saying it would not behoove me to, you know, if I was talking
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to a woman, like if I was trying to sleep with a girl and, or even more, by the way,
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Although it can depend on how many, where, et cetera, et cetera.
06:55:05.380
It would not be conducive to getting her, uh, to like me to be like, yeah, I don't like
06:55:16.480
So men who don't like tattoos, but they want to sleep with you because you're still underneath
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Like men will flatter women to get pussy, to get laid.
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Like guys who even are like against, like really against tattoos.
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If he's trying to have sex with you, oh my God, your tattoos are so fucking cool.
06:55:46.760
Look, I think some men, it's probably neutral for them.
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Some men like it, but I think, yes, most men, to be honest, it's just like probably a negative.
06:56:00.320
Do you, I mean, I don't know, do you want to, I can state my position on all these things,
06:56:06.940
I mean, I, I think it's more neutral, especially for guys.
06:56:12.100
Well, I mean, maybe negative for people who don't have tattoos, but I've tattoos.
06:56:16.660
Well, when you say it's neutral, do you mean like the assessment that men make of women
06:56:23.000
No, I feel like it's just more, it just depends on the guy.
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Like, I feel like it could be more neutral or negative for a guy who doesn't have tattoos
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versus like a guy who has tattoos would be more neutral, positive.
06:56:32.680
So, yeah, I mean, I definitely agree that a guy who has tattoos, he's probably going
06:56:38.880
to be more accepting of a woman who has tattoos.
06:56:42.940
Even then though, I, I, you know, I don't know.
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Do you think a man who has tattoos, do you, from your perspective as a woman assessing a
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man who has tattoos, do you think it makes him more masculine?
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Not more masculine, but more attractive sometimes.
06:57:02.680
No, I don't, I feel like tattoos don't determine your masculinity, I feel like.
06:57:07.480
Well, not necessarily, but do you think some tattoos can be, make a guy seem more masculine?
06:57:21.000
Anybody, any other thoughts from any other women here at the table?
06:57:23.960
I think like more attractive, but not more masculine.
06:57:27.300
Like, if the tattoos fit him, I think it's really nice.
06:57:31.780
Well, obviously, there's different styles of tattoos, different locations can be a factor
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But I do think that there are some tattoos that could be perceived as amplifying a man's
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However, I don't really know if, I would actually apply the same principle to women.
06:57:53.280
I think tattoos, typically, on a woman, make her come off as more masculine.
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And men, typically, seek out femininity as a trait in women, not masculinity.
06:58:13.020
So, like, if, so you're telling me if I have an arm full of flowers, that makes me masculine?
06:58:19.900
Uh, I mean, the design can be a factor, but I think it's the, in and of itself having the
06:58:27.700
Even if it's like a girly design, like a flowery design, yeah, I think it still kind of reads.
06:58:48.100
I don't think tattoos can make guys masculine, but some of them can be scary.
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Like, the eyeball tattoos, like, non-approachable tattoos.
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Some of them can almost give, like, fragile masculinity more than just, like.
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And then you can see the guys that tattoo the girls' names all over them.
06:59:18.820
Look, tattoos aren't a deal breaker, but, um, yeah.
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If you're, like, if you're, like, contouring the shit out of your whole face.
06:59:43.460
And, like, making your face look, like, a totally different shape than it actually is.
06:59:48.700
But I feel like foundation to, like, cover up a blemish or two or, like, red spots or, like, freckles even or, like, concealer to brighten your eyes.
06:59:56.960
I feel like that's not really, like, lying, deceiving.
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That's just kind of enhancing, like, your regular features.
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That's more just, like, enhancing your eyelashes.
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So, I agree with you that, uh, when it comes to makeup, there can be varying levels of how much makeup is used, the types of makeup used.
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And the effect can be minimal, it can be moderate, or it can be quite extreme.
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Um, so, in, really, any, at any level, though, it is, you, you use the term enhancing, right?
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So, basically, you don't actually look like that.
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You don't possess the thing that the makeup is trying to replicate.
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Uh, mascara, I think it's typically acknowledged that longer eyelashes are deemed more attractive.
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Blush, that is deemed as something that's more attractive.
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Um, I'm trying to think of other examples that I could give.
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So, even, like, really small, just doing, like, even, even really small amounts of makeup, I think, can make a pretty profound impact on how someone looks.
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Like, even just a bit of, like, mascara and eyeliner, I think, can totally change the perception.
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Pretty much, even if it's really minimal, it's just to, to a lesser degree.
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But it's still deceptive, because it's not, you're not, you're not really blushing like that.
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Your eye, your, your, uh, eyelashes aren't popping like that.
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But you can kind of see that on their face, too.
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Like, you don't look at mascara-ed eyelashes and think that they're un-mascara-ed eyelashes, unless it's very minimal.
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I think, so there's two, two arguments I would have to this.
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I think maybe when, like, it's really, she's full glam, it's like, okay, she's wearing makeup, but there, there is some degree of makeup where, uh, I think even a guy who's a bit attuned to the types of makeup that women wear, they might not know, like, all the little tricks that y'all use.
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Like, I think 99% of straight men don't know what fucking contouring is.
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So it's like, okay, you're wearing makeup, but what is it doing?
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And then I think on the other level, even if I look at a girl with makeup and I can tell, like, I know she's wearing makeup and I could even tell you, oh, she's got, I could list all the shit she's wearing.
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And on a couple levels, what's the best framing for this?
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I think when you, you, the first impression that you get of somebody, even if I can look at a woman and know she's wearing makeup, you guys are playing tricks on men's gaze.
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So even if I look at a girl and I know she's wearing makeup, I'm still, even if I know that, that doesn't change how I feel, like, my attraction towards her.
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Like, she has still fraudulently elicited an attraction or a level of attraction that wouldn't otherwise be there and still persists even if I'm aware of the makeup that she's wearing.
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In that case, you're more attracted to the look of the makeup than the actual face itself.
07:03:38.220
Wait, but you can still be attracted to a woman without makeup, but I'm saying you could be more attracted to her with the makeup.
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Yeah, but if you look at her and, for example, you, like, like her long eyelashes or whatever, you can see that they're mascarad and you might still feel the attraction, but you know that it's attraction to the long eyelashes that's resulted from putting the mascara on.
07:04:01.580
I think that even fully acknowledging what she's wearing, you don't know what she looks like underneath.
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And so it's like to the degree to which she has changed her appearance, you're unsure because, I mean, some women, the change is fairly minimal and it would change really nothing in terms of your attraction to her.
07:04:20.920
Okay, well, and I'd be willing to say that probably in most cases when women do wear makeup, well, I don't know if I would go there, actually.
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I was, I was about to say, I would say in most cases for most women, when they wear makeup, the guy would still otherwise be attracted to her, even if she wasn't wearing the makeup.
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He's just maybe finds her a bit more attractive with the makeup, but I don't actually, you know what?
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I don't know if I want to grant that, but then you just, you validate her saying it enhances the beauty.
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I do, I do think, though, there are definitely situations where if you saw a woman without the makeup, you would not be interested at all or as interested.
07:05:08.060
I know that there's, like, some straight guys that do wear makeup, like, for their beards or, like, sometimes even concealer.
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Yeah, I mean, there's, like, the looks-maxing stuff going on.
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Some of these guys are doing some stuff, but, I mean, I'm not saying, like, I guess a technique, well, I don't know what you're trying to get out there, really.
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I think they're, and then I think women would look, even women who wear makeup would probably view that, like, view a man who wears makeup as a negative.
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I'd say, yeah, but do you think it's the same difference if a man were to change his appearance with makeup than as women?
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I think that'd be, to some degree, deceptive, yeah?
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I think makeup, in a lot of ways, is artistic, and I agree with her.
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Because, I mean, people do eyeshadow that's all types of colors and designs, and...
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I think most women wear makeup to look better, though.
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Whether, maybe it's not even for a man, but it's still, if men still see you anyways...
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But I think it's mostly for not a deceptive purpose.
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And a lot of women look beautiful without makeup.
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You're trying to portray yourselves in a way that that isn't actually true.
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Can I get a makeup wipe so I can take my makeup off?
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I've been told my entire life that I look better without makeup.
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Why would you wear makeup if it makes you look worse?
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Well, I think the point still stands a little bit.
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Word of advice to women, tattoos, piercings, multicolored hair, etc.
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Most men, even HQ1s, see these as red flags for feminism and will not want to marry you.
07:07:43.160
Yeah, high-quality men are going to see those things as red flags.
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It seems like we're really okay with telling men ways in which they should improve.
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But why can't, like, why can't we tell women, like, what we find attractive?
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Women are not shy about saying what they find attractive, what they want, what they like.
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But y'all lose your minds when we men, we tell you what we like.
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I don't remember you saying you don't like makeup.
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I mean, it's not a deal-breaker, but I do prefer minimal or no makeup.
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Well, I don't know if he even mentioned the makeup.
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He was talking about tattoos, piercings, multicolored hair.
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I feel like if it's a red flag, then you should just go for somebody.
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You shouldn't even, like, bring a—you shouldn't even, like, come into contact with somebody who has those things if you think it's a red flag.
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I feel like that you could easily completely avoid that.
07:09:12.680
I mean, it's like if you don't like skinnier people and you just want to get with a bigger person, don't go with the skinnier person and just shame her.
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Like, go ahead and just go with the bigger person.
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Yeah, I mean, of course, you should date the type of person that aligns with your wants, needs, and desires.
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But I think if we're having a conversation about it, I don't think it's wrong for myself or Pastie to point out that these things generally tend to be assessed negatively by men.
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I mean, I'm not saying he's wrong for feeling that way, but I'm saying that I disagree with it.
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Because, like, it all comes down to preference at the end of the day.
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And there's men that honestly won't date a woman without tattoos.
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A man who's unwilling to date a woman – a man who needs a woman to have tattoos in order to date her is way more rare than men who view tattoos – who assess tattoos on women negatively.
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There can't be your whole chat that thinks that same way.
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There's plenty of guys in the chat who are like, oh, I don't care about tattoos, whatever.
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Like, I think ultimately if you're just trying to maximize your attractiveness as a woman, I mean, look, once you've already had tattoos, I mean, there's tattoo removal stuff that you could do.
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But, I mean, one thing to keep your prospects – to have more prospects would be to not get tattoos.
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If you don't have tattoos, maybe don't get tattoos.
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Again, I don't think it's a deal breaker for most men.
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I'm just saying how can we look at this from a maximization perspective?
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And, look, all right, why are you guys getting all bent out of shape over this?
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You guys seem a little upset by it a little bit.
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I mean, I don't really care if a man wants – like, if he doesn't want to be with me because I have tattoos, then bye.
07:11:43.100
Well, I think there would be – like, you're an attractive gal, and I think a lot of men would – even if they don't like tattoos, would still date you.
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But I'm thinking – I guess we're more analyzing this from, like, would you be assessed as more attractive without tattoos?
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I would be assessed as more attractive if I wasn't chubby.
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But I think sometimes women want to, like, bury their head in the sands about the reality of what men generally find attractive.
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I'm currently a little – I got to lose some weight.
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That's – some women, that's – a lot of women probably not their preference of theirs.
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But with women, like, let's talk about the weight thing with women.
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Y'all – like, women will really fight on that one.
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I feel like because you have, like, a fat friend.
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And, like, it will almost gaslight the woman into thinking that she doesn't have to self-improve.
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Like, I don't think women hold other women accountable.
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Like, from guys, they're like, bro, I get girls who DM me saying, oh, I like you, chubby.
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And then dudes are just like, yo, Brian, you got to cut the – you got to fucking lose some weight.
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You want – it's like you're perfect – women is like you guys are perfect how you are.
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You don't have to preserve the attractive qualities that men care for.
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I personally think a man is attractive, like, really attractive with a dad bod.
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Like, he does not have to have a six-pack or anything.
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But then you ask them what a dad bod is, and they're like, Jason Momoa has a dad bod.
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But I think, look, it's fair to say that, yeah, some women are okay with a dad bod or whatever.
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If you're trying to cuddle with a guy, he's all, like, angular and stuff, that's not good.
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But, like, my husband's, you know, a bigger guy, and I just love it.
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He's not in the gym all the time, making us go on a diet.
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Like, I think most women prefer strength over aesthetics in terms of bodybuilding.
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So, they would prefer someone who's strong but not as defined or, like, lean over someone who maybe takes steroids and has a six-pack and super-defined muscles, but he's not that strong.
07:15:11.720
Blasting through a few final things on the questionnaire there.
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Abby, you write, men are more privileged in society than women.
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I feel like in some areas, they are more privileged than women.
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Like, I don't have any examples, but there are some, like, things.
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I mean, a lot of men want to say that a woman isn't capable of doing something like that because of, like, her emotions or something.
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But a man, I mean, honestly, we got some pretty emotional men in an office, so it could go.
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I don't really make that argument, though, so I'm not really prepared to defend people who say that.
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That people in office, men usually have the benefit of that instead of the women.
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I think there are more men who happen to be in leadership positions, but I would not forward an argument about women's emotionality.
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Yeah, I'm willing to just go ahead and say, yeah, I think I'd be okay with that.
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You're the only one who's ever said yes to me asking that question.
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It's logically possible that a woman could be, like, I could agree with her on her policy positions and could be a stellar leader.
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I would say, though, I think women are typically less drawn to politics, at least in terms of being – women definitely have political opinions.
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But I think women are less interested in being a politician.
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And then I think women are less drawn to these, like, super high-intensity stressful jobs.
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Do I think there – I think there are just more men who are willing to do it, though.
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So I don't know if that answers your question, but –
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And then, I mean, there is the component of – and you might say, well, this would be sexism on behalf of other nations or other leaders or other politicians.
07:18:17.380
But, like, let's say all other countries are super sexist.
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Let's say all these other countries, they're all – most of them are led by men.
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And they would not take a woman leader serious, right?
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I think that that would be – even if within our own country we're like, yes, a woman can definitely be leader, it would be something to consider.
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You could call it, you know, hey, that's not fair.
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But if it's the case that having a woman president could make her ability to enact diplomacy or to be taken seriously by external factors – and we can acknowledge that that would be sexist and unfair.
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But if it's the case that that is true, then that could – might have to be something to be considered if you were going to consider voting for a woman.
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It might be wrong, it might be sexist, for these other nations or whatever, but – hold on.
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Oh, wait, did I read this one for – from Pasty?
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Don't be upset if you do have tattoos, piercings, multicolored hair, etc.
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It just means not to expect most good men, even HQ1s, to take you seriously.
07:19:58.400
Abby, going to your disagreement here, you said women can do anything a man can do.
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Basically, you know, women can do what men can do, and men can do what women can do.
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Um, like, you know, because some people say a woman can't do this, that's like a man field,
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but, like, a woman can, like, do something that's, like, in a man's field?
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Mm, I mean, I think there are some jobs that require physical labor that women are, generally speaking,
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Uh, even if they're capable, even if women are capable of doing it, I don't think they have the, I don't know if aptitude is the right word.
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So, like, most dangerous, dirty jobs, even if women are capable of doing it, they just don't have the interest or interest whatsoever in doing those jobs.
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And there are just some jobs that require physical strength that I genuinely, I don't think it's possible that, like, a really strong or athletic woman could do it,
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but, like, 99% of women just can't do certain labor jobs.
07:21:18.280
I was gonna say, there is some things that a woman can do that a man can't, and vice versa, like, a man can't have kids, I mean.
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I didn't know we were talking about, like, job-wise, so.
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I thought that's what you were talking about, was jobs.
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Okay, we have, we're gonna blast through some of the few final notes here from some of the guests.
07:21:57.080
Okay, you disagree, I think we hit all your disagreements, I'm pretty sure.
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You said women are allowed to have OnlyFans and to not be looked at, looked differently at.
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Well, I don't have an OnlyFans, but I will support anybody, like, any woman that has it, because, you know, like, they're making money, and that's something that they want to do with their lives, and that's what they're gonna want to do.
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And, like, I mean, like, we shouldn't look at them, like, differently.
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I'm sorry, how do you reconcile that as a Christian woman?
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But, like, shouldn't you be advocating for women who are involved in sex work to not do sex work?
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Like, you seem to have, like, either a passive or a almost encouraging outlook on OnlyFans.
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I'm not encouraging, but, I mean, it's their option, their choice, you know?
07:23:18.040
No, but, like, I mean, they're their own person, you know?
07:23:20.840
Well, so you can acknowledge that women are allowed to do OnlyFans.
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But why should they not be looked differently at?
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Like, I mean, people shouldn't really look at someone different.
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But you're a Christian, so, I mean, don't you have...
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Right, but we should look at everybody with, like, love, so.
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Even if, like, they're doing their own thing, their own sins, they're on their own journey.
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Shouldn't you be actively advocating against either women who are active doing OnlyFans?
07:24:20.680
But the people who do have premarital sex, like, I don't think...
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But if you're going to claim the title of Christian, you're going to be a Catholic, you're going to...
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I don't think women's involvement in sex work is compatible with Christianity.
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And so, it doesn't mean she has to hate women who do OnlyFans.
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But she certainly can't be like, well, she can't be hand-waving sex work.
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She ought to be ideologically opposed to sex work.
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A lot of women can still be a Christian and still do OnlyFans.
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Because, like, sometimes women do OnlyFans just because they really just have to make it.
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We live in the most prosperous country in the entire world.
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There's all kinds of jobs that women can pursue that are not sex work that will, you know,
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that will afford them the ability to cover their basic necessities.
07:26:18.620
Well, the conversation wouldn't entirely apply to you.
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But she's doing this, like, I'm okay with women being sex workers.
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You can want good things for women who are sex workers and hope they stop being sex workers.
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Technically, in God's eyes, no sin is greater or less than the other.
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If you're going to follow the God's word, like, you have to follow all of it.
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Not do some and then judge others for the one job.
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And Jesus died on the cross for all of our sins and not just one.
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So he values the people who, like, swear or the people who do premarital sex or people
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who do literally any single sin in the Bible is just as much of a lukewarm Christian as
07:27:36.900
However, however, I don't think you can be a Christian and say that you're okay with
07:27:43.460
You can acknowledge that there are sex workers and they are sinning, but to be a Christian
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I feel like it's kind of in the same boat with, like, the way people feel about being
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If people see that as a sin, then all sins are equal.
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But from what I know, as long as you're saved, you're forgiven of your sins, correct?
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It's if you believe that Jesus died on the cross and rose on the third day for your sins.
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I don't even believe that there's a Bible verse out there saying that women can't be
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But I do believe in the Bible there is actually...
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Can somebody tell me what the verse is and what it says?
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I don't know it off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure that from a Christian perspective,
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yes, homosexuality, from a Christian perspective, would be deemed as a sin.
07:29:03.820
From a Christian's perspective, it gets confusing because you can say that men aren't supposed
07:29:08.920
to be with men and women aren't supposed to be with women because God created men and woman,
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but there's no actual verse saying that a woman can't be with a woman or a man can be with a man.
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I'm pretty sure there's one that says a man and a man can't lay down together, something
07:29:20.920
along those lines, but I know I haven't heard anything about a woman situation, but I do
07:29:28.000
A lot of people think it's a sin to date with someone outside of your race, and I don't think
07:29:33.960
I don't think there's anything in the Bible about that.
07:29:37.680
Okay, so Leviticus 18.22, you shall not lie with a male as with a woman.
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Leviticus 20.13 declares that if a man lies with a male as with a woman...
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Okay, well, I won't read the last part because, I don't know, YouTube will get...
07:29:57.980
get bent out of shape about that, but so there are some...
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Jesus died so that we didn't have to make sacrifices, especially when it comes to that Old Testament.
07:30:21.260
Jesus was that ultimate sacrifice that saved us all from having to worry about that.
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If there's nothing you have to adhere to, like, if everything is negotiable, Scripture is up to,
07:30:36.000
you pick and choose what you're going to follow, then what does it mean to be a Christian?
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It just gets very technical because all sins are supposed to be the same.
07:30:49.440
I don't know how that would be relevant, though.
07:30:51.660
So even if all sins are equal, then shouldn't Christians equally condemn all sin?
07:31:00.280
And we're not supposed to judge each other either.
07:31:03.500
Yeah, that should also be just as bad of a sin as being gay or doing only things.
07:31:06.440
I'm not making an argument about the severity of the sin necessarily.
07:31:11.140
I'm just simply making an argument as it relates to her position that she's okay with sex work, basically.
07:31:17.700
Do you think that liars can be Christian and people that have premarital sex can be Christian?
07:31:26.200
I have a base level understanding of Christianity.
07:31:28.500
I've already stated my position Christians do and can make mistakes and still be Christian.
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But if you're in willful disobedience, like you continuously do the same sin, then I think that that, you know, you can make a mistake.
07:31:45.020
You can try to correct path and it's okay, perhaps, to make a mistake more than once.
07:31:50.680
I'm not a fucking it's not really entirely my wheelhouse.
07:31:54.720
But I'm just again, I'm not a Christian, but when somebody tells me they're okay, I'll repeat the example.
07:32:06.720
If somebody tells me they're vegan and I see them eating meat, I'm like, why the fuck are you eating meat?
07:32:17.600
Christianity, whether you're a Christian or what, as a Christian, what you want to see your world look like.
07:32:25.140
Even if you acknowledge that there are other people out there in the world, as a Christian, you should not want sex work to be a thing in the world.
07:32:38.140
I think you can be against, I think you can be against sex work, but a lot of people still have to do it.
07:32:54.420
And before you say I didn't, I was literally working two jobs and one of them was a really, really good job just to support my child.
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So at the time, I was just eating like hot dogs in the house.
07:33:05.320
Even though I was making a ton of money, I couldn't keep any for myself.
07:33:09.100
So starting OnlyFans has helped me tremendously.
07:33:11.880
Okay, so even granting that some women are in such, it's conceivable that a woman could be in such financial dire straits that she's desperate.
07:33:21.700
Even then, a woman need not engage in sex work, even if she's financially desperate.
07:33:26.800
Also, I would argue 99% of women who do do sex work are not in such severe financial dire straits that they need to do sex work.
07:33:35.700
But if they have to do sex work, like if that's their situation and they have to, does that make them less Christian?
07:33:44.120
Sex work could be just having sex with your husband and making like...
07:33:52.080
Having sex with your husband is definitely not sex work.
07:33:58.560
Oh, okay, you're talking about something different.
07:34:00.420
I'm talking about OnlyFans, like that's the topic.
07:34:06.960
Like if they had to make an OnlyFans, like say like I did, I had to make an OnlyFans.
07:34:10.920
You did not, you had, somebody had a gun to your head and was like, if you don't fucking make an OnlyFans and be a whore, I'm going to kill you.
07:34:22.960
I'm being a bit exaggerated in my, I mean some people would argue it is being a hoe basically, but look, I'm not interested in having a debate on like the definition of whore and prostitution.
07:34:37.800
If you want, I'll just retract the whore thing.
07:34:43.460
Okay, am I a sex worker because I just sleep with my husband?
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You're not on the corner giving your pussy for 50 bucks, but that's sex work and what you're doing is sex work.
07:35:09.640
And do they pay you money so they can receive sexual gratification?
07:35:24.100
Do you think they're like, like analyzing the, the, uh, the interior design of your house?
07:35:32.600
Or do you think they're jerking to your fucking porno that you do?
07:35:36.560
I'm not saying that I agree with it by any means.
07:35:39.280
I'm just saying, answer the question, answer the question.
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And that's to fulfill men's need to be sexually gratified.
07:35:54.600
I get that, but are men viewing your content for sexual gratification?
07:36:06.300
But you can also like still be a Christian, even doing jobs that you're desperate to pay
07:36:17.160
Even though you don't necessarily agree with what you're doing, uh, it's okay to be optimistic,
07:36:29.220
Um, I, you know, I, I do know that in life for both men and women, there are desperate situations.
07:36:43.020
99% of women who do OnlyFans, who do sex work, it's not out of some like desperation.
07:36:54.360
Like it's not, there are other ways like, or let me ask you this of the ways people make
07:37:01.360
Are there ways people make money and provide for themselves absent doing sex work?
07:37:08.120
Like there are jobs where people can provide for their family and make money and be fine
07:37:13.740
with themselves and you know, whatever and not do sex work.
07:37:19.760
So those same jobs are accessible and open to women who do sex work or who are contemplating
07:37:29.900
There are some women who sure, maybe shit's really fucked up and they need money like that.
07:37:39.900
Even then, I think there's options before sex work.
07:37:42.640
99% of women who do sex work, it's not out of some deep need, uh, deep desperation.
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When I really could not pay the bills anymore by myself, even with working two jobs.
07:38:15.180
Here's the harsh reality for you, OF slash 304s.
07:38:19.340
Doing sex work, going through multiple men, having multiple kids from different baby daddies
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I mean, I feel like he would probably do, uh, do a little better job, uh, I guess, explaining
07:38:49.000
Although I think I've laid out a pretty coherent argument.
07:39:00.040
Uh, question for the women who do OnlyFans or sex work or whatever.
07:39:06.780
Uh, I come from a really conservative, like, family.
07:39:14.080
And after, so I started working in the nightclub, like, really young.
07:39:21.240
Uh, after I was of legal age, and my mom found out about my OnlyFans from the newspaper
07:39:31.780
Yeah, like, I went on the news and TV in my country.
07:39:48.740
But out of respect, I don't talk about, like, my work to her.
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She would tell you that she doesn't like it, me doing it.
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But, you know, it does come in handy because I had to help her out, too, so.
07:40:19.520
Do you, is your dad and mom, like, they're still there or whatever?
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My mom knows that I do some sort of, that I have some sort of other income.
07:40:44.620
And I think she knows that it has to do with men.
07:41:02.900
Sakura, you broke up with your boyfriend because he found your video online and the background
07:41:09.340
Oh, the source, so I started off by doing Ko-fi.
07:41:19.120
It's one of those platforms where you can sell your works or, like, your news or, like,
07:41:30.660
So, I started off from there and actually I broke up for different reasons.
07:41:35.960
But after we broke up, like, hey, he found my leaks on Google with the background in his
07:41:59.320
I thought you were, like, having sex with another man in his bedroom.
07:42:15.200
But after we broke up, then he found these images online.
07:42:21.500
You said you had opinions on how much money a man should make.
07:42:29.680
You said, uh, opinion on how much money a man should make.
07:42:36.520
No, we're just, uh, we, I think we actually answered it just now.
07:42:45.380
You also disagree with the idea that women shouldn't be doing porn?
07:42:55.840
You disagree with the idea that women should not be doing porn?
07:43:20.560
Like, oh, it's pretty much illegal in the country.
07:43:27.860
So we'll do rapid fire questions, and then we'll do makeup removal, and then that's it.
07:43:55.980
Well, this is, she's a lesbian, though, so I don't even know what to do here.
07:44:00.400
Do you, tell us if you find them attractive, then.
07:44:17.600
The nails are throwing me off, and the necklace.
07:44:20.820
No, but would I date the female version of myself?
07:44:29.280
If I could bring myself into another body, yeah.
07:44:58.220
He's actually kind of, he's actually, like, he's, I'd say he's a good looking guy, you
07:45:15.800
All right, well, keep it, as we go around the table, we've got some white women here,
07:45:28.660
Gay, but that's, it's really just, like, from me, but, like.
07:45:34.320
You have to suspend disbelief a bit with, so, yes, you would date him?
07:45:41.820
Well, you're married, so I feel like, I don't know.
07:45:47.260
He looks like the guy from the house of the Waverly Place.
07:46:14.480
You're basically insulting yourself at this point.
07:46:19.000
He looks like the older version of the Greg Hefley actor.
07:47:17.360
I feel like the middle one's better than the last one.
07:47:34.700
These, they don't, they don't, they don't see the vision.
07:47:52.440
I feel like we got to crop in the, the, to the head, like to the, to the face.
07:48:30.820
Did, did they include like the other one that we like or not?
07:48:45.800
Wait, they did include the, if you look in the gender swap, they did include my, like
07:49:17.860
So we need, remind me makeup and then super speed questions.
07:49:23.880
Uh, you're going to be reading these Alina and then just try to be like, as you're reading
07:49:29.880
them, like look and then like send yourself back up with the mic.
07:49:46.860
Name three countries besides the USA, China, Mexico, and Asia.
07:50:07.300
Three countries besides the USA, Australia, Spain, Japan, France, Italy, and China.
07:51:52.140
I don't know how many there are, but Antarctica.
07:52:08.860
Seven and can we, are we allowed to repeat or no?
07:52:53.620
You, you read it and I'll pick who, who answers.
07:53:28.640
I think it's fair to skip the non-Americans on this one.
07:54:19.900
The United States gained its independence from the United States.
07:54:25.200
America gained its independence from ourselves?
07:54:26.660
Didn't they sign this little paper or something?
07:54:36.560
No, well, look, sometimes sex work is the only option.
07:56:17.560
So maybe we did gain our independence from Asia.
07:56:22.800
How about I'll give you, I'll list some, I'll give you 10 states in Europe.
07:56:34.580
And then you tell me which one you think it is.
07:56:40.900
Sweden, Denmark, Lithuania, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, Portugal, Spain, UK, or England, I should say, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Poland.
07:57:17.000
Who was the first president of the United States?
07:58:05.180
How many days of the week end with the letter Y?
07:58:15.780
How long does each president serve their terms?
07:59:38.820
No, but you haven't given me a question yet, so I felt like I needed to answer one.
07:59:46.760
Well, you should have played the rules of the game.
07:59:50.520
I would have given you something eventually, but...
08:00:21.160
How many degrees are in a full rotation of a circle?
08:01:07.900
Where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?
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I think I should ask the Asian women here all the math questions now.
08:04:06.140
If yes is spelled Y-E-S, then what does E-Y-E-S spell?
08:04:15.520
If yes is spelled Y-E-S, then what does E-Y-E-S spell?
08:04:22.980
If you were born 10 years ago, how old would you be today?
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Can you speak into, oh my god, this girl, get her fucking ADHD meds.
08:05:46.560
Can you name three Allied and three Axis powers from World War II?
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Name one Allied power and one Axis power from World War II.
08:06:22.780
There's obviously going to be some degree of limitation here.
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But name one Allied, other Allied power, one other Axis power.
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I think that Axis was like, I forgot the name of it.
08:07:08.800
I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure Japan was not an Allied power.
08:07:23.040
I believe that the USSR was part of the Axis forces, right?
08:08:00.980
Any woman who can name an airplane from World War II gets a $2 bill.
08:08:25.040
Blasting through some of these dating-related ones.
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Do you think your looks are average or above average?
08:08:51.420
Do you think your personality, in terms of what men want, is average, above average, or better?
08:09:04.500
But, in terms of what women want, above average.
08:09:27.280
Do you think you are charismatic, starting with you?
08:09:56.460
Exercising a compelling charm, which inspires devotion in others.
08:10:12.540
Uh, compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others.
08:10:26.460
Um, do you think it's sexist for men to have the expectation that women cook, clean, do laundry,
08:11:05.180
Do you think it's sexist for women to have the expectation that men pay for dates, that men
08:11:10.800
be chivalrous, that men protect, that men provide?
08:11:34.940
What is the male equivalent, or rather, what is the female equivalent of getting flowers
08:11:40.460
or giving, like, female equivalent of giving flowers?
08:11:46.200
What would, okay, what do, what would women do that is-
08:12:10.920
He don't, he probably don't get his back rubbed.
08:12:16.200
One of his favorite presents, like wallet something.
08:12:20.620
Um, maybe like, um, cologne or like an EdSpot's gaming car.
08:12:33.920
What percentage of men do you think are over six feet tall?
08:12:49.600
What percentage of men do you think make over $1 million per year?
08:13:33.480
Are we talking about like the 40-foot yachts or the 80-plus yachts?
08:13:40.720
It's way less than 1%, even if you've got a small motherfucking yacht.
08:13:49.140
Do any of you keep a list of the men or women you've been with?
08:13:55.940
No, I can remember that off the top of my head.
08:14:18.660
And just, you don't have to show it, but you can maybe just, wait, what are the details?
08:14:36.540
But you know the number because it's in the phone.
08:16:28.740
Really quick question on the body count and then we'll go around for the rest of the people.
08:16:38.900
You know, I've, uh, you know, I've heard worse.
08:17:07.820
Like, assume you, you meet the guy, you stay with him your rest of your life at 24, whatever.
08:17:15.600
Like, like if you had to predict like total life body count, what do you, what do you think?
08:17:27.620
And then curious with the body count, was there a, was there a period?
08:17:34.320
You could even call it a, hey, look, I had a ho phase.
08:17:51.500
Guys, the 12 bodies, was it condensed into like a three month tip bender?
08:18:06.680
Where do you even, if you're in like high school, like where do you even, fuck, you know what
08:18:43.240
Never had a list, but like in my head, I've had a, like, like.
08:18:55.180
I mean, I've talked to a few guys at once, yeah.
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She's talked to a couple guys at a few times before.
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Have you ever slept with someone the same day that you met them?
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And, like, you could have met on a dating app, but, like, when you meet in person, how quick
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But let's break that down into, like, for work, but you've also, like, dated men not for work.
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Has anyone here hooked up with two guys in a 24-hour period?
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Uh, um, I don't know if this one really applies.
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But, wait, didn't you have something about men sucking?
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Uh, I mean, I think that a majority, but I think there are some good men.
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I don't like how she's acted since he was murdered.
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Isn't there something going on with the custody of the kids?
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Look, I've had Charlie Kirk on the show two times.
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I can't believe, uh, I can't even begin to imagine, like, what it would be like, like,
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if I had a wife or a girlfriend and she got fucking sad, like, how do you even, who knows
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Although, like, I don't know if I'm being charitable.
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Like, have you, maybe, even if you're not autistic, have you ever laughed at a moment
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Like, because it's, like, the, the tension or it's, like, you're uncomfortable.
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And I wonder if we can be charitable in the sense that, like, she's got all this spotlight
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I just feel like if my husband was assassinated and he said that he didn't, like, for example,
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he said that he doesn't like Nicki Minaj and what she stands for.
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And then she went and had Nicki Minaj on turning point.
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Well, I'll let you guys come in on this really quick.
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I just wonder if it's maybe some people can cope differently.
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I would, the grieving, like, I feel like you shouldn't, like, you gotta be private.
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But if my wife or girlfriend, like, was doing some of that stuff.
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Like, wouldn't you be with your kids, like, off the media?
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You want to, you go ahead and then I'll have you go ahead.
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Yeah, besides the Nicki Minaj thing, I think another thing that's really sus about Erica
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So, I don't know if you guys have watched that Diddy documentary that came out on Netflix.
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He's going out after Biggie's killed and he's dancing to I'll Be Missing You, right?
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Do you, is, what's going on with you and Diddy?
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Yeah, one thing I find sus is Charlie had asked Candace to do some research because he knew
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that something was about to happen to him, yet Erica is the one shouting for her to stop.
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And I would think that if, if I wasn't grieving like Erica seems to be publicly,
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I would at least want someone to find out the truth.
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If there's a possibility that Tyler didn't do it, you know, or if, even if he did, what
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She was trying to find that out and Erica just wants her to stop.
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So, okay, you have like an issue with Candace, I guess, or what?
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I love Candace because she's like the only one that's really trying, in my opinion.
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I don't know what's, I don't know what's going on with Candace, but, um, oh wait,
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okay, Anjali, you said you're a Disney child actor through another ex, or your, your ex
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was a Disney child actor through another ex, and your friends got thrown out, quick, quick
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He was on one of the popular shows of our early childhood.
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Well, we were in a high-rise apartment building in downtown Dallas, and all my friends lived
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Well, he caused a situation that got everybody in our whole building thrown out, and it was
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like 10 residents in different apartments, right?
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And this place didn't press charges on him or anything, and I don't want to name any names
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or give out any information that's going to put anybody in bad situations, but, I mean,
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So, you wanted to share a story, but you, uh, okay.
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Uh, finishing off with Lindley, here, some of your notes, you think women should be spoiled,
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Like, when, if I'm dating a woman, I like to spoil her because I like to provide for women.
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I think that if you're in a relationship, you should spoil each other.
08:28:04.860
But, but, because you specifically wrote, you think women should be spoiled.
08:28:10.340
Well, how about in heterosexual relationships, should it be men who spoil women?
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Yeah, but I think overwhelmingly men spoil women more than women who spoil men.
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I mean, she's doing your laundry on the first day.
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They're mixing your noodles and smelling your undies.
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You've seen these videos of these girlfriends and their boyfriends.
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If it's bare minimum, then why doesn't she deserve some clothes?
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Like, or go shopping or spoil her back when she's doing all this work for you that you could have hired someone for.
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Yeah, we can go to, like, Alpha Thrift or something, and I'll get her some, like, third-hand clothes, you know, because I'm a nice guy like that, you know.
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I wouldn't, like, go to, like, get her clothes, like, out of the dumpster.
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But, yeah, Alpha, yeah, Thrift Store, she can get some clothes from the Thrift Store if she's lucky.
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I just think you seem to have some objections to saying women should.
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To the Christian women at the table, pro-life or pro-choice?
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Pro-choice, you are in favor or okay with abortion.
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Your Christian worldview doesn't inform your position on this?
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So, pro-life, against abortions, pro-choice, okay, or in favor of abortions?
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Pro-life, unless the health of the mother is at risk.
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Purity culture, as far as women having less value, body count is weird to you?
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I don't think a woman's value goes down based on how many men they've had sex with.
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Like, inherently, I don't think their value goes down.
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Someone may have an opinion, but I still think that a woman can be just as good at being a mother and being a wife.
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And those 1,000 men had to pick between a woman who's a virgin and a woman with a body count of 1,000.
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Do you think that those 1,000 men would value the woman who's a virgin more?
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Because I think that men hold more value on body count than women.
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And I just think it's unfair that men, it's okay for men to have a high body count, but women, it's looked down upon.
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I don't think men should be promiscuous, but I understand why.
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Like, why it's not judged as harshly as promiscuity in women.
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Do you think that men with a high body count should expect to get with a virgin?
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I would say it's okay for men who has a high body count to desire and find attractive a woman who's a virgin or who has a low body count.
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That's completely coherent, and I'm completely...
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I think we don't look for symmetry in what men and women are attracted to.
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So, for example, if a man has a high body count, that does not make him beholden to only date women who they themselves were or are promiscuous or who have a high body count.
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And it's men value, generally speaking, again, there's all kinds of variables here.
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Generally speaking, men value low body count in women, lack of promiscuity in women.
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But I would point you to one example here in terms of asymmetry in what men and women find attractive.
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So, for example, quick question and then I'll give you my response.
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Do you think that in order to desire something in a partner, whatever, that you need to possess that trait in order to desire it?
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So, in this case, or do you need to, like, so in this case, this would apply then to body count.
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So, I can desire low body count in a woman, but have a high body count.
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So, for example, women, they won't pay for a first date, but they definitely won't pay.
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They don't want to, a given woman could not ever want to pay for a first date, but she desires a man to pay for the first date.
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A woman could be broke, but definitely be really attracted to a really wealthy man.
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A woman could not be funny, which is, I mean, both men and women, most men and women are not funny, but that's another conversation.
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A woman could not be funny at all, but find a man who's funny to be attractive and want to date a man who's funny, even though she's not funny whatsoever.
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A woman could lack confidence, but want a guy who's confident.
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A woman could not be a professional athlete, but want to date a professional athlete.
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A woman could not be a musical superstar, but want to fuck and lose her virginity to a music superstar the weekend.
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And I don't believe symmetry is necessary to allow oneself to find certain traits attractive.
08:36:07.120
I don't think that symmetry necessarily has to be necessary, but I don't think just because someone's not as funny as someone else or doesn't have that quality, it gives them less value.
08:36:18.180
So I still think that it is a bit hypocritical for a man to have a high body count and to be strict on a woman's body count.
08:36:33.840
That a man with a high body count, what did you say?
08:36:38.140
Well, I'm saying I don't have any objections to a man who has a high body count desiring or finding attractive women who have a low body count or virgins.
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Now, whether she wants to date them or not, by the way, I don't have a double standard.
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So it might be hypocritical, for example, if I said, well, women who have that same standard, that would be wrong.
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A woman who she doesn't want – maybe she has a high – well, I don't think really women work like this.
08:37:11.040
A woman who has a high body count, if she wants to date a guy with a low body count, that's fine.
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I don't think it's wrong for a guy with a higher body count than a girl for them to date.
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I think it might be hypocritical to tell a woman – to tell women if they have a high body count that it's wrong for them to date a man with a low body count.
08:37:55.480
That might be hypocritical or it might be hypocritical.
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If you're a man who has a high body count and you tell other men who have a high body count not to date women with low body counts, but you date women with low body counts, that might be hypocritical.
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As a guy, you have a high body count and you've made a value judgment.
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You've made an assessment that women with low body counts make for better girlfriends or are more attractive.
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Totally – I don't think it makes you a hypocrite.
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Do you mean like a man with a high body count judging a woman with a high body count?
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Like it's – if you're not judging that person for it, that's one thing.
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But if you're judging them for it and you also have a high body count, that would be like me judging – me not being funny and then judging someone else for not being funny.
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Is it hypocritical for a woman who's not funny to want to date a man who is funny, but she doesn't date a guy who isn't funny?
08:39:03.500
I mean, I don't know what we mean when we say the term judge.
08:39:06.360
I think it's much easier to use the metric of would or would not date.
08:39:13.600
I think – look, you can pretty much – well, I don't know.
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Well, not with the number necessarily, but does anyone here think most men suck?
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Not necessarily trash, but not people that I would like to be around.
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I mean, there are lots of great men out there that have great values, but there are also a lot of men that –
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So if I were to say – I don't think this, by the way, but if – or not even me.
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If a man were to say, I think most women suck –
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But I do think most women would say – if you were to say – excuse me.
08:40:36.520
If you were to say most women suck, they would call you a misogynist.
08:40:44.360
I mean, a man can say that to me because I say that about men.
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I'm not going to get offended if someone says that –
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Do you have an issue – but would you – you wouldn't have an issue if a man said that most women suck.
08:41:14.940
Would you object to somebody saying most black people suck?
08:41:28.440
No, yeah, you did grant that it would be sexist.
08:41:30.820
If you were to say, no, I think it's fine to say that men suck, then you would be –
08:41:34.560
Yeah, no, I'm not saying that it's not a sexist statement because it is.
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I just – that's what I believe and I'm being honest about it.
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If you could snap your fingers and all men disappeared, would you do it?
08:42:16.120
Oh, what was the thing about the being gay thing?
08:42:24.560
Oh, I think it's gay to not eat pussy as a man, like if you're dating a woman.
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Maybe I take it back because sometimes I don't feel like you're on a bullet job.
08:43:24.260
I mean, I'm not saying you have to want to eat pussy every day, but I think it's a little
08:43:37.620
So if I were to tell you that I've not gone down on a woman since the year 2008 – is
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George Bush was still president, but Obama was about to be in office.
08:44:04.060
I mean, I just – I don't like giving oral sex to men.
08:44:18.200
I was going to ask, does it make a lesbian straight if she doesn't want to eat it?
08:44:24.220
I think it's weird if you're a lesbian and you don't want to have sex with your girlfriend.
08:44:29.140
I would say she's only attracted to and only dates women.
08:44:48.720
I don't think you're fully gay because you don't eat pussy, but I think it's a little gay.
08:44:54.300
I don't think that means you're fully into men.
08:44:56.680
This is classic – yo, to the viewers, classic female manipulation tactic.
08:45:07.020
Women love to use shame, insults, and guilt to get compliance from men.
08:45:21.160
Is it okay for a woman to not want to give head?
08:45:26.640
Not – like, I'm not saying they have to give head all the time, but I think it's weird
08:45:30.220
if they never want to give head and they date men.
08:45:34.100
Are there any women here who don't like to give head?
08:46:03.620
So, I mean, again, if – so, if a woman doesn't enjoy giving head, does that make her a lesbian?
08:46:15.740
How about if I reframe it like this, and I think that this might stump you.
08:46:28.360
But if – so, if I frame this from a consent angle, I don't consent to give a woman head.
08:46:43.020
Yes, I'm having sex with her, but your position is, even if you have sex with women, and you've only had sex with women, but you don't give a head –
08:46:49.500
I don't think that makes you fully homosexual, but there's something weird about it.
08:46:52.460
Like, how are you going to be fully attracted to women, but not –
08:46:58.920
It seems a little weird as a woman to try to shame me, to coerce my consent to – I don't know.
08:47:12.740
Do you think you should – in order to get consent, do you think it's fair to shame somebody to coerce them into sex?
08:47:19.720
I'm just saying that my personal opinion is that it's a little gay.
08:47:24.640
Like, I don't consent to giving women head – and you're trying to coerce me a little bit.
08:47:30.600
I feel like it's a bit problematic on multiple levels.
08:47:38.860
If you overheard some frat guys calling women lesbians for not sucking dick, would you be, like, kind of upset by that?
08:47:47.800
Like, would you find that, like, immature or incensed or whatever?
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I'd be like, all right, if that's what they think.
08:47:54.640
But you wouldn't be like, wow, that's immature.
08:48:02.180
If a woman does give head but doesn't swallow, does that make her gay?
08:48:18.280
And, like, it's a texture thing for a lot of people probably.
08:48:27.420
But whenever I was with men, I did give them head.
08:48:39.680
I just think it's a little gay both ways, like, both ways.
08:48:42.500
It's not logically, it's not logically coherent.
08:48:47.660
By your logic, lesbians who don't give oral sex are secretly straight, and straight women
08:49:02.960
I think sexual orientation is about who you're attracted to, not which sex acts you perform.
08:49:28.200
Not really, like, just like a bunch of weird guys.
08:49:50.040
But then he would freak out that I was, like, he had a curfew for me, or tried to.
08:50:02.160
I, like, if I was out, I had to be in someone's house.
08:50:07.060
Like, if I was staying with the house, I would have to be in their house by midnight.
08:50:13.940
And my parents didn't even have a curfew for me.
08:50:25.060
Or, like, when I broke up with him, he kept, like, it was awful.
08:50:33.600
He was, like, door-dashing me flowers every week after I ended things with him.
08:50:36.680
And he kept, like, calling me, like, leaving me all these, like, voicemails.
08:50:46.480
In front of all of you, we're gonna do the makeup removal segment.
08:51:11.600
Save it, though, because you're gonna hold it up.
08:52:19.620
You guys gotta stop fucking whispering between each other.
08:52:34.620
It also depends on if they have like bottom surgery or not.
08:52:46.900
Like I personally, I don't have anything against transgender people, but I would not date a
08:52:55.240
I would say even whether it's before surgery, after surgery, still gay.
08:53:02.160
Still gay, even if they've got the fake vagina, still gay.
08:53:21.180
Well, I mean, I just know human anatomy, and I know that even with surgery, like you can't
08:53:30.240
Like, they just put a hole in, put a hole in there.
08:53:55.220
Well, it's not gay because, I mean, it's what they want to identify as, even though if
08:54:00.060
they don't have like the correct part, it's still like their identity.
08:54:23.520
I mean, okay, biologically, a woman is a person who has like a, um, a vagina.
08:54:32.580
Yeah, but you think that trans women can have neo-vaginas, right?
08:54:40.540
I'm not sure what they do down there, if they do become trans.
08:54:43.700
Because, um, I know that some of them may tuck it, but-
08:54:49.600
No, but they can still consider themselves to be like a woman.
08:54:58.540
Yeah, because like, how can a guy go and say he's a woman, you know?
08:55:02.220
Wait, really quick on the makeup segment, can everybody hold up their makeup wipes?
08:55:11.380
All right, show us the damage, show us the damage.
08:55:22.200
Well, you still got your lashes in, so don't get too-
08:55:24.300
Well, I can't take them off, I need the remover.
08:55:47.880
A woman has a vagina, so I feel like if you have bottom surgery, then you could consider
08:56:04.080
Okay, she feels if she's a woman, she's a woman?
08:56:08.200
A person with a, but like, would you consider a trans?
08:56:29.180
Well, they can still be a woman, they're just trans.
08:56:32.640
But you just said, a woman is someone who has a uterus, trans women don't have a uterus.
08:56:37.900
I'm not really educated on like the trans community, so I, I, I can't really speak on it.
08:56:43.280
They genuinely feel like they're a woman on the inside.
08:56:55.500
A woman is a person with a uterus and, what Morgan said, a vagina.
08:57:03.820
A woman is somebody that is born with a uterus and ovaries and normal functions and hormones that women fluctuate with, that men do not.
08:57:27.400
Uh, you can't, you can argue that you can change your gender.
08:58:03.500
No, because you're talking about gender identity.
08:58:06.980
If a man can become a woman, because they're transgender, uh, wait, sorry, what was the fuck?
08:58:27.580
If a woman can become a man, she has a uterus and a vagina.
08:59:12.660
So, you acknowledge that a male can have a gender identity as a woman, right?
08:59:17.900
Okay, so there's their sex, which is male, and their gender identity, which can be, well,
08:59:26.600
So, two males having sex, this does meet the definition of homosexuality.
08:59:34.500
Because when we're talking about sexuality, we're not talking about, it's baked into the
08:59:41.760
word itself, sexuality, it's referring to your attraction to the sex of the person.
08:59:50.480
So, this is why we say same-sex relationship, opposite-sex relationship, opposite-sex attraction,
08:59:57.140
when we're talking about sexuality, that's your attraction to the other person's sex.
09:00:01.020
So, in this case, homosexuality would mean two males.
09:00:06.400
So, two males, even if one of them, or both of them, I guess, their gender identity is
09:00:11.200
all fucked up, the gender identity of one of them is woman.
09:00:15.280
So, a man and a woman, but they're both males, that would still be gay.
09:00:21.060
Um, you know, it's however you want to perceive it.
09:00:30.040
You can't be, Abigail, come on, by the way, you're in Michigan, like, who gives a fuck?
09:00:48.880
Yes, yes, it has been blue every single year besides this year.
09:01:04.080
You see a dude sucking the dick of somebody wearing a wig.
09:01:28.620
If I transition into a man, and I wanted to, and if I wanted to do stuff with you, would
09:01:53.000
Any final thoughts from anybody before I wrap this up?
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If a blue-collar man and a white-collar man both make 100K a year, which would the panel
09:02:25.900
Yes, it's considered a blue-collar job because it's physical labor.
09:02:32.300
Any final thoughts from anybody before I wrap this up here?
09:02:43.520
It's 1,400 viewers, and it's been fucking two hours since we've had a Prime sub.
09:02:59.240
Well, hey, the followers coming in are helping out.
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I'm going to wait until our homegirls back from the bathroom just to do the outro.
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But, yeah, any final thoughts from anybody while we're just waiting for our good friend?
09:04:04.960
Where is my reparations for being a Slav slave?
09:04:51.920
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
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